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    From City Journal: The Cluster B Society Psychological dysfunction is now valorized and embedded in our institutions. We need to understand what we’re dealing with. By Christopher F. Rufo Sep 24 2023 ... Psychologists have captured the spirit of our modern culture in four specific psychopathologies that, together, make up the Cluster B personality disorders:...
  • @nebulafox
    @JohnnyWalker123

    The fact that the sun sets in the west is more surprising than the fact that this douche (I read his account once, he’s an archtypical white knight “women can do no wrong” type) does not mention self-selection as a factor, or the declining amount of women who tolerate approaches from men anywhere other than a dating website. Part of this is the general decline in social skills, but part of it is because for young women, dating websites allow them a degree of control, security, and ease that they’d never get in flesh space.

    You can’t blame the women, really: the dating sites are very convenient for them. They can pick and choose a wide pool of men from behind a screen. But I get why so many young men are irritated with the stupid “advice” they get with a straight face. “Get off the websites and try it in real life.” Gee, like that has never occurred to him before. And it is doubly insulting when it comes from the same kind of person who has contributed to making the damn websites into the default and often only option. No wonder Zoomer men are attracted enough to the red pill sphere that it has almost gone mainstream.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Recently Based, @Jack D, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Corvinus

    Agree completely that is a d-bag comment.

    Yes, the reason Im not dating Hollywood startlets is that I’m just not asking them. The reason the median guy isn’t asking the median girl out is that the median girl wants nothing to do with the median guy.

    I think the current dating market — characterized by the rise of feminism, massive income inequality, and technology (the Pill and social media) — is a disaster for a majority of men and women.

    • Disagree: Corvinus
    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @Recently Based

    I agree. Today's dating scene is absolutely nothing like it was 30-40 years ago. Even compared to 15-20 years ago, the changes have been breathtaking.

    Interestingly, these changes have been seen almost everywhere throughout the world, even outside the West. This is a global phenomenon.

  • O/T, but not really.

    According to the NYT, and in peak female journalist solopcism, Oppenheimer was really about the girls:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/19/magazine/oppenheimer-movie-girls.html?smtyp=cur&smid=fb-nytimes&fbclid=IwAR2L6coK2kYEq8NwefeBf6mUG6-0UNHfIM6xWJ37n7jg1Tn5sIPYZNA65lk

    If you google a photo of the author you will not be surprised.

  • I like Rufo, but this essay is a big miss. He draws the conclusion that “psychological disorders are job qualifications” based on a single anecdote. No, it is not actually the case that disclosing mental disorders improves the chance of you being hired.

    His discussion of the valorization of victimhood is correct but no different than what you’d find on Rush or National Review circa 2005. Basically conservative conventional wisdom for about 20 years.

    It is true that Cluster B types are more prominent than before. Here’s my better take on this:

    1. Social media amplifies them and is structured to play to their strengths: dishonesty and drama-queening.

    2. “Mental health parity” mandates for health insurance coverage resulted in a huge expansion of the mental health industrial complex. Unlike doctors and RNs, most workers in it are themselves dysfunctional, are paid poorly despite their string of credentials, and resent normal straight men.

    “Therapist” of some sort is the big career goal of mentally ill obese 95-110IQ white asian and hispanic women all over America.

    3. Expansion of the mental health complex isn’t limited to just Cluster B. As I noted before, 8-10% of young boys now are being formally diagnosed with “autism spectrum disorder.”

    • Thanks: Kylie
    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    @Pixo


    I like Rufo, but this essay is a big miss.
     
    I tend to agree. Although my take is more based on the fact that all this "personality disorder" stuff is just a steaming pile of voodoo pseudo science to begin with. It's just an exercise in slapping science-y labels on annoying people. They could just as easily say that some people have "selfish jerk disorder" or "whiney bitch syndrome."

    It's tempting to use pseudo science to call annoying people names. But then you're implicitly buying into the bullsh*t yourself.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Simon in London
    @Pixo

    I disagree. Conservative conventional wisdom was that the opposition leadership were bad but sane, that there was a man behind the curtain. This essay makes clear that is not the case.

    Replies: @Pixo

    , @nebulafox
    @Pixo

    > As I noted before, 8-10% of young boys now are being formally diagnosed with “autism spectrum disorder.”

    Translation: “Has personality that middle aged female educrat really doesn’t like.” or “Is a socially undertrained jerk whose parents see a diagnosis as the most preferable option.”

  • On Twitter, a corporate insider explains how how DEI promotions work, and how they hilariously went wrong in the Year of All Fevers, 2020: Rule3O3 @Rule3O3 🧵 What it’s really like to serve as a tool in the DEI🧵 As I’ve admitted before, despite being a confirmed thought criminal with ties to Big Frog, I’ve...
  • I generally find Twitter pretty inane, but have just spent 30 minutes obsessively reading this rule3O3 guy. Worth it.

  • From Semafor: Back in the Summer of George, Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey gave Dr. Kendi $10 million to found his Center for Antiracist Research at Boston U. I snarked at the time: Back to Semafor: The unanswered question: how much money is left of Dorsey's $10 million and however much else Kendi raised. The layoffs...
  • Obviously, this guy is shockingly stupid for somebody running a research center at even in mid-level university like BU.

    $10MM is typically the minimum bid for a “center” (an “institute is usually over $25MM, and a “project” is over $1MM or so). He (or somebody) did raise at least a little money from Raikes, Rockefeller, etc. (about $200K that I saw from Form 990s).

    When you get $10MM, one strategy is basically to shoot-the-moon, spend most of it in a couple of years, and hope you can parlay this into more fundraising because of your profile and momentum. It’s closely analogous to the venture-backed start-up strategy of spending your A-round in 12 months to gain mindshare and going for a big B-round. It sure seems like Kendi tried this (as did a bunch of start-ups in 2020 / 2021). For all I know his SV backers pushed him in this direction.

    But in the end, it’s just kind of sad that he doesn’t have the smarts to see any of this. It’s like putting me up against major league (or for that matter D-III college) pitching and seeing me miss every pitch.

    Of course, he’ll presumably continue to get paid a ton of money for mouthing whatever slogans he does.

  • It reminds me of what fellow grifter (but she of the feminazi variety) Anita Sarkeesian said a few years ago about how much she hated doing fundraising and gladhandling for her feminazi “charity” that she ran.

    Fundraising for a 501(c)(3) or think tank is actually quite difficult and tediuous. You have to eat shit and like it, understand the way-undertoned sub rosa pay-for-play promises you’re making for the gifts, and then deliver the goods. Imagine a mafioso protection racket but in tuxes and evening gowns and “teach-ins” and such, but with far more subtlety —so much so that most of the mafioso don’t realize they’re in a mafioso, but actually think they’re good guys in a Persecuted Persons Protection Program.

    A true believer type gets wise and cynical, and a lazy grifter type like Kendi or Sarkeesian gets, well, lazy and miserable. The latter is much happier doing 20 minute YouTube rants about Evil White Men and $50,000 and hour speeches and “debates.” Alas, the donations must flow and the protection must be gained or no one will hire you or promote your nonsense speechifying fluff.

    Kendi/Sarkeesian types grafted onto their particular Hate Whitey Men schpiels because they really want to be celebrities spouting off nonsense nonstop and being worshipped for it, and the politics of their times allowed this avenue for such fame. But that can only be a part-time gig if the system allows; the way to sustain your fame after you take the ticket is protecting the system and fellow ticket-takers.

    I really would not be too surprised if either Kendi or Sarkeesian ended up doing OnlyFans if their fame dried up more. Both are merely fame whores.

    • Agree: Erronius, Recently Based
    • Thanks: bomag, Old Prude
    • Replies: @Frau Katze
    @R.G. Camara

    I doubt there’d be much demand for Kendi on OnlyFans.

  • There's another new scientific paper out by some of the usual suspects associated with Human Varieties mining the fabulous Adolescent Brain Cognitive Development database for more insights: Race is widely said to be a social construct rather than a genetic reality. For example: According to Jones (2002) “race” is only based on a few phenotypic-related...
  • So, it’s all very complicated.

    A big of the complication you are referring to is that most Americans are used to using “black” as equivalent to ADOS, because those are the blacks they’ve seen all their lives..

    But as pendants keep pointing out, there is incredible genetic diversity within Africa as compared to most populations outside Africa, presumably because of the grand “out of Africa” genetic bottleneck. American slaves were mostly Bantu or from various parts of west and Gold Coast Africa. While there were certainly Igbo slaves, the Nigerian-Americans are of notably different genetic ancestry that most ADOS.

    So, when SJWs start lecturing you about how ‘there is more genetic difference within Africa…’ blah blah blah, they’re really just taking advantage of the way normal Americans have used the word ‘black’ to mean ‘the kind of black who is an ADOS’. You should actually agree with them that, yes, we can see different ancestry groups that all come from Africa, and all have somewhat darker skin than northern Europeans, but isn’t it interesting that some of these groups show persistent success in a wide variety of environments and others don’t.

  • At the data-intense Human Varieties blog, Chuck sums up average SAT or ACT score submitted to the Common App in 2021. Like the name says, the Common App is the most common way to apply to college online (with 900+ colleges accepting applications submitted vias the Common App), so the sample sizes are large: Chuck...
  • @Arclight
    Blacks have been thoroughly hosed by the Democratic Party's enthusiasm for immigration - lots of high IQ Asians will shove aside college-hopeful blacks, and vast numbers of Latinos have displaced blacks from a number of manual labor jobs they used to hold. The only real niche in the jobs market they still occupy is in governmental or NFPs with a vague community development mission.

    However, there is no real backlash because the political goal for black Americans is no longer to demonstrate they are no different than whites in terms of how they would live and contribute to society given the chance. Instead the primary aim of blacks now is to extract as much cash or like-cash subsidies from the rest of society, exemption from the basic standards expected of everyone else in terms of personal conduct, and secure carve-outs in every industry for some minimum percentage of black participation.

    Ultimately I think this is a losing hand though. America's changing demographics mean big changes in the salient political issues and how competing groups leverage them. There will still be inter-group competition in the political arena, but overall the share of the population that looks at blacks as primary allies or a political priority is getting smaller, not larger. The reaction once this sets in will be interesting, to say the least. Blacks have become accustomed to a place of honor and deference in American culture, and in the not so distant future they are going to find themselves largely an afterthought. That's going to be a very bitter pill to swallow.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Anon, @Recently Based, @AnotherDad, @Corvinus

    That’s certainly plausible in the long-run, but according tot he survey Steve cited, both Latinos and Asians are more supportive of reparations than are whites.

    There’s a lot of installed wealth to be looted in America before the looters turn on one another.

    • Agree: HammerJack
  • A new poll of 6,000 Californians finds that cash reparations payouts to blacks are opposed 59%-28%. Blacks think handing them money is a swell idea by a 76-16 margin in favor, but whites oppose it 65-25, Latinos are against 59-24, and Asians against 59-23. It must have seemed like a good idea at the time...
  • @Guest007
    @Recently Based

    And what did same-sex marriage do concerning lifetime monogamous marriage for heterosexuals given the divorce rate and family failure rate before same-sex marriage was legalized.

    All same-sex marriage did was allow homosexuals to change their next-0f-kin just like heterosexuals.

    Much like the linked video, one has zero arguments against same-sex marriage except that one does not like homosexuals. Try harder.

    Replies: @Recently Based

    You’re just repeating that there is no argument other than animus, without addressing the argument being made.

    You write:

    All same-sex marriage did was allow homosexuals to change their next-0f-kin just like heterosexuals.

    And all giving a parade to a winning baseball team or a collection of child rapists does is to give some people a free ride down the street.

    Valorizing behavior X via public celebration changes attitudes.

    • Replies: @Guest007
    @Recently Based

    But how does changing attitudes take anything away from heterosexuals unless one believes that being a homosexual is something that one can catch from the gays.

  • @Reg Cæsar
    @Recently Based


    That took less than 20 years. If this is a regime priority, how long would this take?
     
    One big difference: this costs. "Marriage equality" cost little, some tax benefit if that still exists. It wasn't going to hurt marriage any further, as no-fault had already left it shot to hell, and the real thing was going out of style anyway.

    Once the bill comes, so will a rediscovered neoconservativism. If anything, opponents should ask-- but never answer-- whether all non-blacks will pay, or just the white ones. Leave the question open, for them to take a position.

    Gimme the beef, boys, and free my soul
    I wanna get lost in your honey hole
    And grift away...

    Replies: @Recently Based

    I absolutely agree that no-fault divorce, ubiquitous streaming porn in 4K, feminism, etc. have undermined the once near-universal marriage norm already, but that doesn’t mean that shooting a guy who’s already been stabbed twice isn’t a bad idea.

  • @Guest007
    @Recently Based

    Legalizing gay marriage did not take away anything from everyone else. And the arguments against same sex marriage ended up sounding silly. See how stupid Matt Walsh is and his lack of ability to articulate a real argument against same sex marriage.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I957o08voU0

    On the other hand, the arguments against race-based reparations start with the Constitution forbidding separate and unequal standards. Add the budget busting costs and it is easy to keep most people against race-based reparations. The thing that would bring on race-based reparations is open racism of Republicans and idiots like Matt Walsh being the lead opponents.

    Replies: @George, @Cool Daddy Jimbo, @Recently Based, @Art Deco, @AnotherDad

    Legalizing gay marriage did not take away anything from everyone else.

    And my neighbor printing counterfeit money in his basement doesn’t take anything away from me either, but it is does further devalue my currency.

    A nearly-universal norm of lifetime monogamous marriage is IMO essential for the long-term health of a functioning, stable Western society of the kind I want to live in. Lifetime monogamous marriage also cuts against evolved human nature, and therefore like many important aspects of civilized life requires all kinds of social, legal and educational support.

    It’s certainly true that no-fault divorce, ubiquitous streaming porn in 4K, feminism, etc. have undermined this norm already, but that doesn’t mean that shooting a guy who’s already been stabbed twice isn’t a bad idea.

    • Replies: @Guest007
    @Recently Based

    And what did same-sex marriage do concerning lifetime monogamous marriage for heterosexuals given the divorce rate and family failure rate before same-sex marriage was legalized.

    All same-sex marriage did was allow homosexuals to change their next-0f-kin just like heterosexuals.

    Much like the linked video, one has zero arguments against same-sex marriage except that one does not like homosexuals. Try harder.

    Replies: @Recently Based

  • @Stan Adams
    @Recently Based

    The big push to normalize homosexuality started in the early '90s. Actually, it started a lot earlier than that, but it kicked into high gear around 1993.

    You might recall that the brouhaha over "Don't ask, don't tell" erupted within days of Clinton's inauguration in January '93.

    Philadelphia (starring Tom Hanks as Mr. Everyday All-American Average Joe Who Just Happens to Be a Gay Guy with AIDS) came out right before Christmas '93. Schindler's List beat Philadelphia for Best Picture but Hanks beat Liam Neeson for Best Actor. He famously thanked one of his gay high-school teachers in his acceptance speech.

    It may or may not be noteworthy that Mrs. Doubtfire was the big release over the Thanksgiving holiday. Robin Williams' character was not "trans" - he did not identify as a woman; he was explicitly playing a role to attempt to circumvent his ex-wife's custodial rights over their children - but in retrospect he helped introduce the concept of a "gender-fluid" persona to the mainstream audience.

    Ace Ventura: Pet Detective came out in early '94. The main villain in that movie was Sean Young, a top detective in the Miami police department. She was revealed to be an insane former pro-football punter who had received a sex-change operation as part of a twisted scheme to kidnap Dan Marino.

    At one point she seduced Ace (Jim Carrey). When Carrey learned that he had inadvertently slept with a man, he reacted with revulsion and disgust.

    The scene in which Carrey reacted to the embarrassing truth about Young was a parody of the infamous gender reveal in The Crying Game - which, incidentally, won the Best Picture Oscar in 1992. (The highest-grossing movie of 1992, Basic Instinct, starred Sharon Stone as a bisexual murderess.)

    Was Ace Ventura the last big Hollywood movie that presented a "trans" character as an unabashed bad guy - a nutcase with no redeeming characteristics? Perhaps not, but within a few short years the notion that a mainstream movie - even an outrageous comedy - might present such an unsympathetic portrayal of that particular manifestation of sexual deviancy was all but unthinkable.

    Has there ever been a Hollywood movie that presented a truly unsympathetic view of homosexuality in general? Even Cruising pulled a lot of punches.

    Replies: @Recently Based, @Mike Tre, @Colin Wright

    The big push to normalize homosexuality started in the early ’90s. Actually, it started a lot earlier than that, but it kicked into high gear around 1993.

    Exactly correct, just as the push for reparations started way before 2023. But by 2004, public opinion on gay marriage was pretty much exactly where public opinion on reparations is in California today. It took less than 20 years from 2004 to get to not only formal legalization, but gay marriage as an unassailable fact of life accepted by everybody in power anywhere in America.

  • A new poll of 6,000 Californians finds that cash reparations payouts to blacks are opposed 59%-28%.

    For now.

    In 2004, gay marriage was opposed in the US by an almost identical margin: https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/fact-sheet/changing-attitudes-on-gay-marriage/

    But then there was 20 years of academic legitimization, then endless cheerleading articles in The New Republic and The Atlantic, then Broadway plays, then edgy movies, then mainstream TV, then explicit New York Times op-eds, then a series of of failed ballot initiatives, and then — after years of indoctrination at universities — a couple of crucial Supreme Court decisions. Gay marriage is now a fact of American political life that nobody who is going to get elected to anything significant, become president of any major university, or become CEO of any large public company will oppose.

    That took less than 20 years. If this is a regime priority, how long would this take?

    • Agree: res, Voltarde, Ben tillman
    • Replies: @Guest007
    @Recently Based

    Legalizing gay marriage did not take away anything from everyone else. And the arguments against same sex marriage ended up sounding silly. See how stupid Matt Walsh is and his lack of ability to articulate a real argument against same sex marriage.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I957o08voU0

    On the other hand, the arguments against race-based reparations start with the Constitution forbidding separate and unequal standards. Add the budget busting costs and it is easy to keep most people against race-based reparations. The thing that would bring on race-based reparations is open racism of Republicans and idiots like Matt Walsh being the lead opponents.

    Replies: @George, @Cool Daddy Jimbo, @Recently Based, @Art Deco, @AnotherDad

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Recently Based


    That took less than 20 years. If this is a regime priority, how long would this take?
     
    One big difference: this costs. "Marriage equality" cost little, some tax benefit if that still exists. It wasn't going to hurt marriage any further, as no-fault had already left it shot to hell, and the real thing was going out of style anyway.

    Once the bill comes, so will a rediscovered neoconservativism. If anything, opponents should ask-- but never answer-- whether all non-blacks will pay, or just the white ones. Leave the question open, for them to take a position.

    Gimme the beef, boys, and free my soul
    I wanna get lost in your honey hole
    And grift away...

    Replies: @Recently Based

    , @Stan Adams
    @Recently Based

    The big push to normalize homosexuality started in the early '90s. Actually, it started a lot earlier than that, but it kicked into high gear around 1993.

    You might recall that the brouhaha over "Don't ask, don't tell" erupted within days of Clinton's inauguration in January '93.

    Philadelphia (starring Tom Hanks as Mr. Everyday All-American Average Joe Who Just Happens to Be a Gay Guy with AIDS) came out right before Christmas '93. Schindler's List beat Philadelphia for Best Picture but Hanks beat Liam Neeson for Best Actor. He famously thanked one of his gay high-school teachers in his acceptance speech.

    It may or may not be noteworthy that Mrs. Doubtfire was the big release over the Thanksgiving holiday. Robin Williams' character was not "trans" - he did not identify as a woman; he was explicitly playing a role to attempt to circumvent his ex-wife's custodial rights over their children - but in retrospect he helped introduce the concept of a "gender-fluid" persona to the mainstream audience.

    Ace Ventura: Pet Detective came out in early '94. The main villain in that movie was Sean Young, a top detective in the Miami police department. She was revealed to be an insane former pro-football punter who had received a sex-change operation as part of a twisted scheme to kidnap Dan Marino.

    At one point she seduced Ace (Jim Carrey). When Carrey learned that he had inadvertently slept with a man, he reacted with revulsion and disgust.

    The scene in which Carrey reacted to the embarrassing truth about Young was a parody of the infamous gender reveal in The Crying Game - which, incidentally, won the Best Picture Oscar in 1992. (The highest-grossing movie of 1992, Basic Instinct, starred Sharon Stone as a bisexual murderess.)

    Was Ace Ventura the last big Hollywood movie that presented a "trans" character as an unabashed bad guy - a nutcase with no redeeming characteristics? Perhaps not, but within a few short years the notion that a mainstream movie - even an outrageous comedy - might present such an unsympathetic portrayal of that particular manifestation of sexual deviancy was all but unthinkable.

    Has there ever been a Hollywood movie that presented a truly unsympathetic view of homosexuality in general? Even Cruising pulled a lot of punches.

    Replies: @Recently Based, @Mike Tre, @Colin Wright

  • From the Los Angeles Times via Yahoo News:
  • So, our government can’t defend the southern border of the US, but we draw the line at Oklahoma.

    • Agree: Hibernian, Robertson
    • Thanks: Old Prude, Brutusale
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Recently Based

    Heh! That would require, of all things, the Fed introducing check points for illegals or the effort described in Hypnotoad's excerpt, a great start for deportations.

    Texas would either have to build huge detention centers, or some of the airlines that do this work could ship these people back more easily - with that Fed help, and the arrangements of the Texas government with Mexico, and (why not?) Ecuador.

    Replies: @Ed Case

    , @tyrone
    @Recently Based


    So, our government can’t defend the southern border of the US, but we draw the line at Oklahoma.
     
    ......Hey!, it's not like it's
    the eastern border of Ukraine.
  • From a review by Ben Tarnoff in the New York Review of Books of Palo Alto by Malcolm Harris: Better, Faster, Stronger Ben Tarnoff Two recent books illuminate the dark foundations of Silicon Valley. September 21, 2023 issue ... Palo Alto isn’t about a place so much as an idea: a theory of selective breeding...
  • @Alden
    @Recently Based

    The admission websites all say that “ if submitted, SAT ACT scores will not b considered for admission. “

    Replies: @res, @Recently Based

    That is for the University of California, CalTech and a handful of other competitive schools. It’s not true for any of the Ivy League, Stanford, MIT, UChicago, Duke, Vanderbilt, ….. and the vast, vast majority of competitive colleges.

  • @Alden
    Breaking news.

    SAT and ACT scores are not required for first year and transfer applicants. It’s not 1963 anymore admission.Stanford.edu

    Replies: @ic1000, @Recently Based

    They are if you’re white or Asian, not a recruited athlete, and want to get in.

    The whole ‘SAT optional’ thing is to allow colleges to admit AA candidates without lowering their reported 25/75 SAT numbers.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Recently Based

    The admission websites all say that “ if submitted, SAT ACT scores will not b considered for admission. “

    Replies: @res, @Recently Based

  • Can Republican voters ever stop playing Charlie Brown to the Democrats' Lucy van Pelt? Just before the 2022 election, the Washington Post ran an analysis: As part of this general recent trend toward
  • Steve, I think your post has the implicit premise of ‘I prefer some Republican candidates over others, but what matters a lot more is having a Republican rather than a Democrat win’. But for a lot of Trump voters it doesn’t work that way at all. Many of them aren’t ‘Republicans’ (at least not by choice and conviction). Sure, gun-to-head, they would likely prefer DeSantis or whoever to Biden, but not by a lot.

    Given that the 2024 race is up in the air (no matter what anybody says who asserts they ‘know’ who’s going to win), it’s a rational calculation for them to roll the dice on the guy they prefer to any other realistic candidate of either party, even if they think he has a slightly worse chance of winning.

  • An anonymous iSteve commenter suggests that "access" is the coming euphemism: To paraphrase John Maynard Keynes, the Woke can change euphemisms longer than you can remain awake. When will it be time for "empowerment" to come back?
  • “Access” literally means “ability to enter a place.” So it’s an ideal weasel word for conflating “equality of opportunity” and “equality of outcome.” For example, you can say someone is denied “access” to a job because they aren’t even allowed to apply (which everyone agrees is unfair). Or, you could say they are denied “access” because they aren’t as qualified as the other candidates (which normal people would agree is fair).

    Using the word “access” thus allows one to pretend they are talking about the first definition (i.e., unfair discrimination), when reality is actually the second definition (i.e., fair meritocracy).

    • Replies: @OldCurmudgeon
    @Hypnotoad666

    >Using the word “access” thus allows one to pretend they are talking about the first definition (i.e., unfair discrimination), when reality is actually the second definition (i.e., fair meritocracy).

    The old motte-and-bailey strategy in action.

    That said, it feels like DIE* is entering a retrenchment phase. They've achieved such huge gains on the legal/institutional front the last few years, they probably feel the need to spend a few months cementing them into the broader culture (i.e., so they can pass their defense over to establishment R's). Plus, of course, an understandable desire to downplay DIE during the presidential election cycle.

    *should it be DIE or IDE? The latter suggests a certain deadly effect.

    Replies: @Eric Novak

    , @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    @Hypnotoad666


    “Access” literally means “ability to enter a place.” So it’s an ideal weasel word for conflating “equality of opportunity” and “equality of outcome.” For example, you can say someone is denied “access” to a job because they aren’t even allowed to apply (which everyone agrees is unfair). Or, you could say they are denied “access” because they aren’t as qualified as the other candidates (which normal people would agree is fair).

    Using the word “access” thus allows one to pretend they are talking about the first definition (i.e., unfair discrimination), when reality is actually the second definition (i.e., fair meritocracy).

     

    Words with two conflicting meanings used interchangeably is a feature of the regime's power structure. The second meaning isn't that esoteric so much as it is the vessel commonly understood by the Mandarin class to carry within it the unpopular or forbidden cargo.

    The second meaning of "access" is a post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy which you rightly point out - there is a perceived lack of identity X in some trade, profession, etc., and therefore the trade, profession, etc. must then be accused of not granting access. The National Basketball Association lacks a proportionate representation of Jewish midgets, therefore the National Basketball Association has shut out Jewish midgets from its teams - there is no account for the lack of aptitude and performance of Jewish midgets at the game of basketball. It's possible that a Jewish midget has never been drafted by an NBA team, but the reasonable conclusion is that no Jewish midget has ever excelled at amateur basketball to a degree which would interest an NBA franchise in making him a part of its roster.
    , @Sollipsist
    @Hypnotoad666

    "Access" is a poor choice, because it's come to imply accommodating disability.

    The 'powers that be' have a history of being condescending and patronizing to the very people that they're supposedly, uh, empowering... and meanwhile they'll go on and on about "dog whistles" and such in the innocuous words of their perceived opponents...

    , @AnotherDad
    @Hypnotoad666


    “Access” literally means “ability to enter a place.” So it’s an ideal weasel word for conflating “equality of opportunity” and “equality of outcome.”
     
    It's much more than that.

    "Access" is the core driver of minoritarian ideology. We see it way back with the whines about "restricted country clubs" or "Harvard quotas". It's this fundamental idea that the majority--white gentiles--do not have the right to their own stuff. "Your stuff is our stuff. Our stuff is our stuff."

    What white gentiles build/have must be available/open to all. Clubs, schools, businesses, neighborhoods, nations... you must let us in! It's the ideology of the rapist.

    Traditional American ideology, like "liberty"--owning your own life, associating with whom you wish, mutually, voluntarily--or "majority rule"--a community saying "we like our culture, our norms and this is how we're are going to live" (if you don't like it, take a hike and do it your way elsewhere)--basically the host being able to say "no" and do what is in its own interest, are an absolute anathema to minoritarians.

    This is why the coup against the Constitution was necessary. And this is why the immivasion is necessary and pushed so relentlessly--to break and balkanize any coherent white-gentile core. The host can not--must not--be allowed to say "no thanks".

    Replies: @William Badwhite, @The Germ Theory of Disease

  • I asked Google's new Generative AI search tool twice what is the population of the Sahel -- the habitable unforested stretch south of the Sahara -- and was told it's either 135 million or 414 million. Thanks, AI! In any case, it's growing fast. From the Associated Press: It's almost as if
  • I don’t think the immigration scandal is news to anybody here, but it’s what finally based me.

    As far as I understand the historical sources (which are really inexact), the percentage of the population moving into the US now is pretty comparable to rate at which barbarians migrated into the western Roman Empire in the period during which all the sophisticated historians describe as ‘well, it wasn’t really invasion in the way we use that word now’.

    My reaction to America now is like meeting somebody with my late mother’s name. Sure, it stirs a slight feeling of recognition and affection, but it’s just a different person who happens to have the same name.

    • Replies: @neutral
    @Recently Based


    the percentage of the population moving into the US now is pretty comparable to rate at which barbarians migrated into the western Roman Empire in the period
     
    Nothing in history comes close to the current demographic changes, the late Roman empire and post Roman empire changes took centuries, and those population replacement numbers were much less. Cities like London were over 95% white in the 1960s to less than 50% now, you will find similar numbers in all post West cities and countries. Even the Mongolian destruction of entire cities and empires in central Asia did not lead to such massive demographic replacement.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  • @Mark G.
    Most immigration laws will be enforced at the state level in future years. The more conservative parts of this country will eventually break off. People think that can't happen because the government will use the military to prevent it. We are likely headed into a serious economic contraction which will cause tax revenues to dry up and that will make it difficult to fund the military. In recent years its performance was deeply unimpressive in Afghanistan. It can't handle a hostile population and it will be facing an increasingly hostile one in future years.

    The military is having great difficulty in recruiting now. Over on the civilian side, where I work, it has out of control affirmative action and has adopted wokeism. Few younger competent whites want to come and work for it now. Many of the remaining ones are like me, people who joined 40 years ago and are near retirement age. When the old ones retire, they will be replaced by incompetent diversity hires.

    I think the government will let the states increasingly go their own way. They will remain nominally part of the country but will be allowed to do what they want. The government will know the military is ill equipped to use force to stop this transition.

    Replies: @Recently Based

    I usually agree with you on things, but I think this is very likely wrong.

    Until and unless something like China developing fully effective missile defense, the US nuclear arsenal will act like the walls of Constantinople before the invention of effective cannons. It will prevent external aggression and allow a very long period of decline. The US military doesn’t really have to defeat foreign enemies, all it will need to do is maintain a monopoly on large-scale violence within the US. And I suspect it will be able to do that for a long time. But I could be wrong.

    • Thanks: Mark G.
    • Replies: @Mark G.
    @Recently Based

    You could be right. Thanks for your comment.

    , @Erronius
    @Recently Based

    I like your comment. Thank you for writing it.

    The US military is forbidden to act against internal conflict.

    Erronius

  • From the New York Times opinion section, the umpty-umpth op-ed by a black woman enraged by the sheer effrontery of pretty blondes continuing to exist: In Alabama, White Tide Rushes On By Tressie McMillan Cottom Opinion Columnist Aug. 22, 2023 Sorority rush is a tradition at many colleges. But in the South, rush inspires the...
  • @Steve Sailer
    @Mr. Blank

    Spike Lee's "School Daze" is a pretty good critique of black fraternity/sorority life. The movie "Stomp the Yard" is a pretty good encomium of the better aspects of the black Greek tradition.

    Replies: @Mr. Blank, @AnotherDad, @Recently Based

    I saw School Daze with my very blonde, very preppy girlfriend in an otherwise all-black theater in 1988. It was somewhat uncomfortable, but was saved by this amazing closing number:

  • From the New York Times, an excerpt from a new non-fiction book about a vast brouhaha at an upscale Bay Area high school involving mentally unhealthy liberal teenage girls, hair-touching, and nooses: From Albany HS's website: The
  • … Just as things seemed ready to spin even further out of control, the followers were hustled back into Room 104.

    Was Room 101 occupied, or would holding the meeting there be too on the nose?

    • Thanks: HammerJack
    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    @AceDeuce


    Was Room 101 occupied, or would holding the meeting there be too on the nose?

     

    How about Room 222?

    https://youtu.be/pcaUluahdwM?si=zDRMfEFthT-bCiCd
  • From a Virginia Commonwealth U. press release: VCU-led study: Teachers perceive more conflict with Black boys, closer relationships with white girls An analysis of a survey of more than 9,000 teachers shows kindergarten teachers rated their level of perceived conflict with Black boys as nearly 40% higher than with white girls. AUG. 14, 2023 By...
  • Beyond the obvious point that this study simply assumes that ‘perceived’ conflict is a mis-perception, rather than an accurate reflection of reality, this in the summary stuck out to me:

    A team of researchers led by a Virginia Commonwealth University professor found that teachers, regardless of race, perceived the most conflict with Black boys and the least conflict with white girls in their classrooms. …. While teachers’ ratings of closeness with all students decreased from kindergarten to second grade, their level of closeness with white girls remained highest, followed by Black girls, white boys and finally Black boys.…Rudasill said the study isn’t about individual teachers’ bias; it instead uncovers how systemic racism and white privilege in society unfold in the U.S. educational system. … “We found evidence that teacher perceptions of their relationships with Black and white children in early elementary U.S. classrooms systematically advantaged white children and demonstrated an anti-Black racial bias representative of the structural and systemic racism endemic to the U.S.,” Rudasill and her co-authors wrote in the paper.

    Note that there is no concept of anti-male bias presented by the authors, despite the fact that both sex and race are correlated with teacher closeness.

    PS: Just saw all the other comments making the same point. Hopefully a straw in the wind for cultural change.

    • Replies: @Erronius
    @Recently Based

    Agreed. It's always 'perceived' vs actual.

    Teachers, and their unions, are the most progressive and Democrat constituency in the US. If these enlightened leftist teachers are complaining about black adolescent male misbehavior, why cannot other leftists simply accept their complaints at face value?

    Because it violates their pre-conceived and false notion that we are 'created equal'.

    Erronius

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Eagle Eye

  • From the New York Times' Barbie news section (seriously, they have a section for Barbie news): She Was Brazil’s Barbie. Now She’s Saying Sorry. Xuxa was once Brazil’s biggest TV star. Now many are wondering whether a thin, blond, white woman was the right idol for such a diverse country. By Ana Ionova Reporting from...
  • @Harry Baldwin
    @Ben Kurtz

    I have long suspected that the decline in the percentage of the population that smoke is connected to the rise in obesity. When I am in France, I notice far fewer fat people and even among those who have some "middle-aged spread," you don't see nearly as many that are grotesquely obese. At the same time, almost all the people I work with there are smokers.

    However, according to Wikipedia's entry on the per capita consumption of cigarettes by nation, the number for France (1,090) is only slightly higher than that for the US (1,016), so there must be other factors.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_consumption_by_country

    Replies: @Ben Kurtz, @Recently Based

    The huge difference is who smokes.

    In France, you can still find a lot of professionals who smoke, whereas in America it’s like wearing a huge plebeian sign.

  • A lot of name-calling flung at Charles Murray and myself in this strawman-stomping screed by Texas centrist Michael Lind in Compact: I've always liked fellow opinion journalist Michael Lind (here's my positive review of his 2020 book The New Class War) even though he dislikes me. I've learned a lot from him, although it doesn't...
  • @AnotherDad
    @Recently Based


    It’s amazing how closely these current debates parallel those of almost exactly 100 years ago between Charles Davenport and Madison Grant on one side and Boas and his followers on the other.
     
    Confess to not being up on whatever the heck Charles Davenport and Madison Grant thought/said.

    But if they were dismissing nurture then we certainly are not mirroring that debate now. Most HBD or just "nature" people do not dismiss nurture at all. Everyone knows if someone does not get adequate nutrition or is not taught to read then they aren't going to be intellectual rock stars. (Even back in the day, I think that was usually taken for granted.)

    Rather the whole crux of the debate today is that the Jewish led coup against science pretty won the high ground.

    but the complete revulsion at Nazi eugenics plus the general triumph of the cultural Left by the 1930s meant that the “it’s all environment” guys had a free hand to control the academic journals, tenure boards and so on. And here we are.
     
    Everything and anything had some sort of "cultural" explanation, was "socially constructed". Which meant fertile ground--and comfy sinecures--for the "experts" to get in their with their social hammers smashing things up. And meant anyone objecting to the smashing, or trying to preserve their own white-gentile communities, norms, nations was "racist!" and a "Nazi!"

    Their ideology is incoherent and not to be probed to deeply. Obviously everyone knows there are sizeable individual differences and that people resemble their parents. But its all kept a little fuzzy. No one is really constrained by that. Rather it is bad environment that produces failures--societies fault. And most importantly there are no meaningfuly innate group differences in anything affecting behavior and economic success. (Mathematically, clearly nuts.)

    My point:

    The debate today is clearly not 100% nature vs. 100% nurture. It has not been that way my entire life. Nor is the debate between "70/30 nature" vs. "70/30 nurture."

    Rather the debate is between people who believer that "nurture matters, but nature matters and sets limits nurture can not just toss aside"--that there is innate human nature and not all people and groups have the same innate characteristics or capabilities--and the "only nurture matters" loons who control the megaphone.

    Replies: @Pixo, @Recently Based

    Yes, I agree that not many people argue today for ‘100% heredity’.

    My point was not far off from yours. The intellectual battle was won — in the minds of the general educated public — by 100% environmentalists, in part because they were arguing against a strawman. And the ethnic composition of the two blocks was very strongly WASP (hereditarians) vs Jewish (environmentalists).

    When sociology majors or whomever today yell that ‘race is not a scientifically valid category’, they are arguing whether they know it or not, against the racial categorizations that were asserted to be scientific 100 years ago. They are right about that, but they’ve been living on this negative victory for many years.

  • From the New York Times' Barbie news section (seriously, they have a section for Barbie news): She Was Brazil’s Barbie. Now She’s Saying Sorry. Xuxa was once Brazil’s biggest TV star. Now many are wondering whether a thin, blond, white woman was the right idol for such a diverse country. By Ana Ionova Reporting from...
  • Xuxa was once Brazil’s biggest TV star. Now many are wondering whether a thin, blond, white woman was the right idol for such a diverse country.

    By Ana Ionova
    Reporting from Rio de Janeiro

    A photo of Ana Ionova: https://twitter.com/ana_ionova/photo

    Sailer’s First Law of Female Journalism, vindicated again. (I’ll admit I was a little nervous when I saw her Slavic-ish last name.)

    • LOL: mc23
  • A lot of name-calling flung at Charles Murray and myself in this strawman-stomping screed by Texas centrist Michael Lind in Compact: I've always liked fellow opinion journalist Michael Lind (here's my positive review of his 2020 book The New Class War) even though he dislikes me. I've learned a lot from him, although it doesn't...
  • It’s amazing how closely these current debates parallel those of almost exactly 100 years ago between Charles Davenport and Madison Grant on one side and Boas and his followers on the other.

    Both the hereditarians and the environmentalists were passionately arguing for half-truths. Even at the time, there were prominent scientists making the sensible argument that it’s genes + environment, not one or the other (HS Jennings is a clear example), but the complete revulsion at Nazi eugenics plus the general triumph of the cultural Left by the 1930s meant that the “it’s all environment” guys had a free hand to control the academic journals, tenure boards and so on. And here we are.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Recently Based


    It’s amazing how closely these current debates parallel those of almost exactly 100 years ago between Charles Davenport and Madison Grant on one side and Boas and his followers on the other.
     
    Confess to not being up on whatever the heck Charles Davenport and Madison Grant thought/said.

    But if they were dismissing nurture then we certainly are not mirroring that debate now. Most HBD or just "nature" people do not dismiss nurture at all. Everyone knows if someone does not get adequate nutrition or is not taught to read then they aren't going to be intellectual rock stars. (Even back in the day, I think that was usually taken for granted.)

    Rather the whole crux of the debate today is that the Jewish led coup against science pretty won the high ground.

    but the complete revulsion at Nazi eugenics plus the general triumph of the cultural Left by the 1930s meant that the “it’s all environment” guys had a free hand to control the academic journals, tenure boards and so on. And here we are.
     
    Everything and anything had some sort of "cultural" explanation, was "socially constructed". Which meant fertile ground--and comfy sinecures--for the "experts" to get in their with their social hammers smashing things up. And meant anyone objecting to the smashing, or trying to preserve their own white-gentile communities, norms, nations was "racist!" and a "Nazi!"

    Their ideology is incoherent and not to be probed to deeply. Obviously everyone knows there are sizeable individual differences and that people resemble their parents. But its all kept a little fuzzy. No one is really constrained by that. Rather it is bad environment that produces failures--societies fault. And most importantly there are no meaningfuly innate group differences in anything affecting behavior and economic success. (Mathematically, clearly nuts.)

    My point:

    The debate today is clearly not 100% nature vs. 100% nurture. It has not been that way my entire life. Nor is the debate between "70/30 nature" vs. "70/30 nurture."

    Rather the debate is between people who believer that "nurture matters, but nature matters and sets limits nurture can not just toss aside"--that there is innate human nature and not all people and groups have the same innate characteristics or capabilities--and the "only nurture matters" loons who control the megaphone.

    Replies: @Pixo, @Recently Based

  • As a listener to Top 40 AM radio around 1970-71, I can recall thinking that The Band didn't have all that many hits, but the ones they did have were better than just about anybody else's. How long until "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down" is canceled? I now presume that the last two...
  • @Pat Kittle
    Joan Baez (yes, her) did a beautiful cover…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28cg3iCEtWM

    And a Black man (yes, Black) is a big fan…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5TmLhbP3x0

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @YetAnotherAnon, @Enemy of Earth

    Those “reaction” videos are IMHO clickbait, I assume for money.

    • Replies: @anon
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Smart businessmen. Monetizing the overwhelming need most white people seem to have for black approval of their culture.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan

  • From the New York Times opinion section: In Paris, I Get Judged on What I Speak, Not How I Look Aug. 8, 2023 By Euny Hong Ms. Hong is a Paris-based journalist and cultural critic. I moved from New York back to Paris in the summer of 2020, partly to get away from the spate...
  • 1. To (re)state the obvious, the drive-by thing never happened. IMHO, what’s interesting about it is whether she consciously thought ‘nobody in my editorial chain at the NYT has the balls to ever challenge me on this’ when she submitted her draft. My guess is yes, and it illustrates why not holding people to standards tends to produce such crappy work.

    2. I lived in Paris for years, and the reason she got a seat outside is because she’s a moderately attractive woman who was likely dressed appropriately, and the people in front her were likely unappealing monolingual American tourists that would degrade the image of the cafe. She knows this, and knows that her readers know it. It’s the I-went-to-Yale version of complaining about all the catcalls you’re getting.

    3. I’ll bet anybody any amount of money that within five years, she will write a piece about how unfairly she’s been treated by somebody in Paris.

    • Agree: HammerJack
  • From The Hill: America’s white majority is aging out BY DANIEL DE VISÉ - 08/07/23 6:00 AM ET Generation Z will be the last generation of Americans with a white majority, according to census data. The nation’s so-called majority minority arrived with Generation Alpha, those born since about 2010. Barely two decades from now, around...
  • @Hypnotoad666
    @JohnnyWalker123


    If China ever attacks us, farmland roughly the size of the state of Utah stops supplying them.
     
    Right. Because it would never occur to them to get their grain from their new BFF, Russia. Retard neocon thinking in action.

    Replies: @Recently Based, @Peter Akuleyev, @HA, @Mike Tre

    Exactly. Whenever somebody says massive country X will ‘never’ attack country Y because of One Weird Trick Z, you should realize they have zero understanding of human history or human nature.

  • From the Washington Examiner opinion page: Democrats and Republicans aren’t divided by gender, they’re divided by marriage by Conn Carroll, Commentary Editor July 17, 2023 07:56 PM ... In 2022 House races, men nationally favored the GOP by 14 points (56% Republican to 42% Democrat), while women favored Democrats by 8 points (53% Democrat to...
  • @Recently Based
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I was going to leave exactly the same comment.

    Replies: @ydydy

    Me too 😉 but I decided to focus on the positive possibilities. I responded to Achmed here. In short, I absolutely understand that there are rational reasons why people choose to stay in a relationship. I just want guys to know that things are not quite as terrible on the other side as folk may fear.

    As for children, well it is in fact too complicated to discuss here at length but it’s worth noting that a great many fathers have better relationships with their children from outside their marriages than from inside – particularly if they (the fathers) left of their own volition rather than having been forced out by the kids’ mother.

    In addition, kids are generally much better off having divorced parents than parents who dislike each other.

    I don’t like talking about this stuff because it’s sad when love turns into an emotional prison cell. But I am very happy to remind everyone in such a situation that you do have options.

    Even if you decide that you would rather stay (because of the kids or any other reason) it’s good to realize that you could leave but are choosing to stay.

    Nothing bad comes grom recognizing that you have a choice and are making a decision.

    • Agree: Recently Based
    • Replies: @SFG
    @ydydy

    I agree with you, but as a man who opted for what you say largely due to a fear of alimony and a pathological attachment to independence:

    -You’re doomed to a lonely death and very restricted end of life, since no matter how many awful healthy meals you eat and how much exercise you do eventually your body breaks down

    -There is nothing you leave behind after death; most of us aren’t Newton

    -People (men and women) really want kids, and for men that involves exposing yourself to the risks you cite. And some guys still, despite the best efforts of the left, pull it off, they get a good woman and enjoy their progeny.

    It’s kind of like my views on atheism: I don’t believe in God, but given what religion does for people I don’t proselytize for atheism. I don’t walk around calling myself ‘childfree’ like some obnoxious leftist; it’s not some proud statement of principle, in the end, I’m just dodging the draft.

    Replies: @ydydy

  • @Achmed E. Newman
    @ydydy

    That's good advice for a man in a marriage with no kids. There's a lot more to it if there are children.

    Replies: @Recently Based, @ydydy

    I was going to leave exactly the same comment.

    • Replies: @ydydy
    @Recently Based

    Me too 😉 but I decided to focus on the positive possibilities. I responded to Achmed here. In short, I absolutely understand that there are rational reasons why people choose to stay in a relationship. I just want guys to know that things are not quite as terrible on the other side as folk may fear.

    As for children, well it is in fact too complicated to discuss here at length but it's worth noting that a great many fathers have better relationships with their children from outside their marriages than from inside - particularly if they (the fathers) left of their own volition rather than having been forced out by the kids' mother.

    In addition, kids are generally much better off having divorced parents than parents who dislike each other.

    I don't like talking about this stuff because it's sad when love turns into an emotional prison cell. But I am very happy to remind everyone in such a situation that you do have options.

    Even if you decide that you would rather stay (because of the kids or any other reason) it's good to realize that you could leave but are choosing to stay.

    Nothing bad comes grom recognizing that you have a choice and are making a decision.

    Replies: @SFG

  • Up until the nineteen sixties women voted Republican at about the same rate as men. Then a small group of radical feminist writers turned feminism away from fighting for equal rights for women towards a pro-statist man hating form that viewed men as evil oppressors who women would be better off without. “A woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle”, as Gloria Steinem said. At the same time, changes started to be made to the welfare system to make it easier for women to survive without a husband.

    The number of unmarried women then started increasing and the voting gap between men and women started to appear. The commonality of interests they shared when they were married ended when they were no longer married. Only a few highly sexually desirable men who were drifter types with no interest in education or a career benefitted from the new era. A lot of radical feminism, at its root, was a revolt by women against their boring, average looking, hard-working husbands they depended on for financial support to take care of them and their children.

    The underlying belief these women held was this group of men would continue to work hard and pay taxes to help support women they weren’t married to and children who weren’t theirs. When increasing numbers of men showed no inclination to do this, liberal women then derided them as immature lazy Peter Pan types who refused to grow up. The actual group here who refused to grow up were liberal women who wanted big daddy government to take care of them.

    • Replies: @Redneck Farmer
    @Mark G.

    The changes in welfare are an example of the problems of middle class legislators using their own experience to write law. I recall hearing that the changes were made in part, "because Uncle John was a drunk, it made my cousins lives miserable. If Aunt Sally had been able to get a divorce, it would have been better". They couldn't foresee people degrading to their ancestors tribal ways.

    Replies: @Anon

    , @Dutch Boy
    @Mark G.

    You missed a modifier:" "Jewish" radical feminist writers. The Sexual Revolution and all its demonic offspring (e.g., transgenderism) are basically Jewish constructs to de-Christianize society.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @Blodgie, @Shaqfu, @anonymous

    , @AnotherDad
    @Mark G.


    The underlying belief these women held was this group of men would continue to work hard and pay taxes to help support women they weren’t married to and children who weren’t theirs. When increasing numbers of men showed no inclination to do this, liberal women then derided them as immature lazy Peter Pan types who refused to grow up. The actual group here who refused to grow up were liberal women who wanted big daddy government to take care of them.
     
    Excellent paragraph Mark.

    This is the core of feminism. Women do whatever they want .... but men must keep providing for women just like they always have! Gone is the mutual exchange of work and benefits of traditional marriage. Women offer nothing in exchange, men must show up and keep providing goodies. It is state mediated sexual serfdom. Feminism is female solipsism as an ideology.

    Replies: @anonymous

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Mark G.

    Ran out of [Agree]s, Mark. Yes, that The State is a 1st, 2nd, or back-up Daddy for women changes the dynamic between men and women for the worse. That's for both sexes too. Though women have gotten power over men, with State enforcement, I don't think they are any happier for the messed-up relationship roles.

    Great comment!

    , @cool daddy jimbo
    @Mark G.


    The underlying belief these women held was this group of men would continue to work hard and pay taxes to help support women they weren’t married to and children who weren’t theirs. When increasing numbers of men showed no inclination to do this, liberal women then derided them as immature lazy Peter Pan types who refused to grow up. The actual group here who refused to grow up were liberal women who wanted big daddy government to take care of them.
     
    Several years ago I made the acquaintance of a single female with two kids of varying ethnic backgrounds. She was constantly put out about the fact that there were no "good men" who were willing to marry her and support her and her two fuck trophies. Some kinda goddam mystery, thought I.
  • From my movie review in Taki's Magazine: Thin Man Steve Sailer August 02, 2023 In director Christopher Nolan’s campaign to save moviegoing from technological and social obsolescence, his latest ploy is his most clever yet: to lure grown-ups with three-digit IQs to see his Oppenheimer in numbers that had no longer seemed attainable in the...
  • @Blondie Callahan 1970
    @Recently Based

    Oldman IS the actor of all time IMO. Drexel Spivey still sticks with me to this day . “Now I know I’m pretty , but I ain’t as pretty as a couple titties .”

    Replies: @Recently Based

    Is today white boy day?

  • Next, Columbia will require applicants to submit a saliva sample so they can check their DNA to ... uh ... evaluate their polygenic scores for educational attainment. Yeah, that's the ticket!
  • @Steve Sailer
    @Recently Based

    "Last year Harvard’s entering class was ~14% black."

    Is 14% the black share of the freshmen on the first day of classes or is 14% the black share of the applicants to whom Harvard sends a thick envelope rather than a thin envelope?

    My impression is that HYPS usually have black shares of admittees around 15% but black shares of freshmen around 8% due to blacks being in more demand all over.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Recently Based

    Harvard has a substantially higher percentage of black students than peer schools, presumably because it doesn’t really have any peer schools.

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Recently Based

    Harvard -- and I know this from experience -- in reality has always two schools: the School of People Who Are Glad They Got Into Harvard; and the School of Crazy People.

    Nobody serious listens to anybody except the Crazy People.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkV9XoDVUlU

    If you can hear what that really is, then congratulations: you are one of the Crazy People.

  • From my movie review in Taki's Magazine: Thin Man Steve Sailer August 02, 2023 In director Christopher Nolan’s campaign to save moviegoing from technological and social obsolescence, his latest ploy is his most clever yet: to lure grown-ups with three-digit IQs to see his Oppenheimer in numbers that had no longer seemed attainable in the...
  • @Romanian
    Great review! I saw it. I enjoyed it, but I was not blown away (pun intended). I thought the Trinity test was a bit anticlimactic (I expected a much bigger and more violent boom, I went to Imax especially for the nuclear spectacle). The way his line from the Vedas was introduced prior to everything else was a fumbling sort of foreshadowing, made comical by the context (basically a sex scene). I also felt that a lot of compelling characters were introduced but never actually used, like Boris Pash the security officer who got the most amazing description and an unnerving performance, but who never went anywhere.

    I think the story, as imagined by Nolan with an ensemble cast of characters, would have been better served by a miniseries. I am also undecided whether the movie is part of Hollywood's repeated downplaying of the Communist threat and infiltration of the US. Certainly, the haranguing of Oppenheimer is made to seem unreasonable and his fellow travelers are made to seem quite harmless (many no doubt were). The focus is, of course, not on them, but I doubt a Nazi or Nazi-idealizing secondary character line-up would be portrayed without any sort of menace, sinister undertones or evil foreshadowing.

    Now I just have to see Barbie :P

    Replies: @MGB, @Anonymous, @Recently Based, @PhysicistDave

    Pretty much exactly my reactions.

    The only additional comment was that playing Truman as a hick moron was both criminally ahistorical — the famous, and arguably partially apocryphal, put-downs Truman made to Oppenheimer were actually much more subtle and cunning — and a criminal waste of Oldman’s acting talent.

    • Replies: @Blondie Callahan 1970
    @Recently Based

    Oldman IS the actor of all time IMO. Drexel Spivey still sticks with me to this day . “Now I know I’m pretty , but I ain’t as pretty as a couple titties .”

    Replies: @Recently Based

  • Next, Columbia will require applicants to submit a saliva sample so they can check their DNA to ... uh ... evaluate their polygenic scores for educational attainment. Yeah, that's the ticket!
  • I’ve been posting here since reading the arguments in the case, months before the verdict, that (i) it was going to be decided for SFFA and (ii) almost nothing was going to change.

    Last year Harvard’s entering class was ~14% black. Harvard’s internal estimate, revealed by discovery for the trial, was that if it had zero explicit AA decision weight, it would be about ~6% black, and a decade ago estimated that if it used only academic merit, it would be <1% black.

    I'll bet the number admitted next year on an apples-to-apples basis will be a lot closer to 14% than 1% — importantly combined with redefinitions and changes in reporting to manage the PR, especially since the PR advantage used to go to 'get the black number as high as possible' and now goes to 'optimize the number to one that retains elite credibility, but doesn't wave a red flag in front of the bull' . Is the candidate with the Nigerian uncle still recorded in the black number in 2024 vs 2023? Will Harvard decline to report the racial breakdown of its class that it has trumpeted until now? Will the classification scheme become different and now report 'percent of the class that is ADOS' rather than 'percent of the class that is black'? And on and on and on.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Recently Based

    "Last year Harvard’s entering class was ~14% black."

    Is 14% the black share of the freshmen on the first day of classes or is 14% the black share of the applicants to whom Harvard sends a thick envelope rather than a thin envelope?

    My impression is that HYPS usually have black shares of admittees around 15% but black shares of freshmen around 8% due to blacks being in more demand all over.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Recently Based

  • From Forked Lightning, a Substack by David Deming, one of the co-authors of Raj Chetty's new paper on college admissions: One of the most interesting findings in our paper was that while Ivy-Plus [Eight Ivy League colleges plust MIT, Stanford, Chicago, and Duke] students are much more likely to have top 1% earnings, their average...
  • @Art Deco
    @Recently Based

    My point is that building a competitive career in corporate business doesn't require an Ivy League degree. Much less does entrepreneurial success require it.
    ==
    Your complaint is that McKinsey has better starting salaries. Well, McKinsey employs 38,000 people in an economy where 18 million people are to be found in fancy professions and management. While we're on the subject of CEOs, the following companies are led by men without Ivy degrees:
    ==
    Wells Fargo
    Goldman Sachs
    U.S. Bank
    PNC
    Truist
    Charles Schwab
    BNY Mellon
    American Express
    Citizens Financial
    ==
    The flip side of this discussion is the population of Ivy League graduates who lead quite ordinary lives.

    Replies: @Moses, @Recently Based

    Your complaint is that McKinsey has better starting salaries.

    My point is that your odds of making >$1MM per year of comp by the time you are 40 are something like 10 – 20% if you go to work as a core professional at McKinsey, Bain, BCG, Oliver Wyman, Davis Polk, K&E, Sullivan & Cromwell, Simpson Thatcher, Wachtell, Cravath, Skadden, Lazard, Evercore, KKR, etc.

    At most major corproations like PNC, Truist, etc. it is <<0.1%

    I'm not celebrating this fact, and don't think it's good for America, but it's still true.

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
  • @Art Deco
    @Almost Missouri

    As Chetty/Deming are perhaps inadvertently demonstrating, for elite strivers, the acceptance letters you receive at age 18 really do have lifelong, life-altering consequences. That the elite academy has so long engaged in massive subterfuge to redirect these acceptance letters to where they objectively don’t pertain has consequences, both for individuals and society.
    ==
    I don't think you're going to demonstrate that. Have a gander at capsule biographies of the CEOs of public companies. Ivy is there, but a much broader selection of private universities and colleges is also there, state schools are there. You're all fussing over the recruiting pipeline of about six companies appended to which is the federal appellate judiciary. The politicians can construct new pipelines for the judiciary.

    Replies: @Recently Based, @Almost Missouri

    CEOs of public companies represent a tiny group of people. If you’re talking about the Fortune 500, obviously 500 people. In its most capacious meaning, a few thousand. There are many more partners at ‘six firms’ than that.

    Most important, ex ante, going to work as a new graduate at the median large public company is a much lower expected value bet than at McKinsey, Goldman, KKR or Cravath, because the odds of becoming one of the very, very few people at that company who make more than $1MM per year are (i) extremely low, (ii) enormously dependent on luck no matter how talented and hard-working you are, and (iii) will likely require 20+ years, even if it does happen. In contrast, at firms like the examples I’ve given, all it takes is working really hard for ~10 years and not having terrible luck.

    Not a lot of people turn down McKinsey to go work at Ford, and it’s not because they’re all fools.

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Recently Based

    My point is that building a competitive career in corporate business doesn't require an Ivy League degree. Much less does entrepreneurial success require it.
    ==
    Your complaint is that McKinsey has better starting salaries. Well, McKinsey employs 38,000 people in an economy where 18 million people are to be found in fancy professions and management. While we're on the subject of CEOs, the following companies are led by men without Ivy degrees:
    ==
    Wells Fargo
    Goldman Sachs
    U.S. Bank
    PNC
    Truist
    Charles Schwab
    BNY Mellon
    American Express
    Citizens Financial
    ==
    The flip side of this discussion is the population of Ivy League graduates who lead quite ordinary lives.

    Replies: @Moses, @Recently Based

  • @Jim Don Bob
    @Almost Missouri

    A poorly worded question on my part. Sorry.

    I understood you to say that you had to pass them over in favor of the diverse, but I was asking what made these Midwest kids stand out compared to their HYP competition.

    Thanks for the reply.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    The Ivy-discarded Asians and flyover whites were as good as those accepted and graduated by Ivies. The differences were

    1) there were a lot of the former,

    2) they mostly fit two particular demographic profiles, and

    3) the latter usually didn’t accept our offers, if they even bothered applying to us on their way to hedge fund and consulting firm interviews. The former actually would apply to us and accept offers if made. The terrible irony was that just as they were cut out of the hedge-fund-consult-gig charmed circle by being denied Ivy admission, many were again cut out of our well-capitalized multinational charmed circle by our lunatic worship of the DIEversity religion, so their misfortune compounded in a downward chain-reaction, just as the unearned good fortune of the regime-favored compounded in an upward chain-reaction.

    As Chetty/Deming are perhaps inadvertently demonstrating, for elite strivers, the acceptance letters you receive at age 18 really do have lifelong, life-altering consequences. That the elite academy has so long engaged in massive subterfuge to redirect these acceptance letters to where they objectively don’t pertain has consequences, both for individuals and society.

    • Agree: Recently Based
    • Thanks: Jim Don Bob
    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Almost Missouri

    As Chetty/Deming are perhaps inadvertently demonstrating, for elite strivers, the acceptance letters you receive at age 18 really do have lifelong, life-altering consequences. That the elite academy has so long engaged in massive subterfuge to redirect these acceptance letters to where they objectively don’t pertain has consequences, both for individuals and society.
    ==
    I don't think you're going to demonstrate that. Have a gander at capsule biographies of the CEOs of public companies. Ivy is there, but a much broader selection of private universities and colleges is also there, state schools are there. You're all fussing over the recruiting pipeline of about six companies appended to which is the federal appellate judiciary. The politicians can construct new pipelines for the judiciary.

    Replies: @Recently Based, @Almost Missouri

  • This post hits the nail on the head, but misses one thing: if you’re a girl who goes to HYPSM, your lifetime economic consumption is vastly more likely to be determined by who you marry than by whatever job you have. Nobody wants to say it out loud to the princesses who compete like hell to get into these schools, but the MRS degree is alive and well. And everybody in the game knows it.

    So, you’d really want to think about this segmented by sex + major. The fact is that if you are a guy who goes to one of those five schools, majors in something serious, gets at least decent grades, has decent people skills and is money-motivated, your odds of making at least half-a-million per year (and maybe a lot more) are really pretty high. If you’re a woman at one of those schools and at least pretty good-looking and agreeable, the odds of you doing that aren’t great, but the odds of nabbing a guy who will are pretty good.

  • @AnotherDad
    @Jack D


    I mentioned this on the Chetty thread – the 25th percentile Princeton student scores about the same as the 75th percentile Ohio State student (or the 100th percentile Ohio student is a 50th percentile Princeton student.
     
    Peasant beat me to it: you are ignoring scale. Student for student the Princeton class is way sharper. But there are twice as many--2500+ kids--in that top 25% OSU class as there are in an entire Princeton class.

    Here's the deal: The ivies--even HYPS--simply do not skim off all the "g" cream of America. Not only that, they do not even try to. AFAICT looking at the numbers the median Harvard or Princeton student is a low end 99%tile kid. Even HYPS are really "top 2%" joints, where they are skimming mental cream, but also the "good enough" kids with connections and good "leadership" resume building skill who are narrative compliant plus all the affirmative action. If it all "g" they'd lose a lot of coastal Jews and WASPs, most of their Hispanics, basically all their blacks and pickup a a bunch of flyover whites and a ton of Asians (if they can't get some other metric beyond the test-prepped SAT). But that's not what they are doing.

    And while a lot of kids--in this "Yale or Jail" age--will put up with the distance and travel to trot off 500 or 2000 miles for HYPS, that desire wanes considerably as you slump down the Ivies and into the 2nd tier. So, there's a whole lot of the top 1% kids going to their state flagship--especially the highly rated ones--Berkley, UCLA, Texas, Michigan, Illinois, UNC, Florida, Virginia, UW Seattle and Madison. Ohio State wasn't in that league back in the day, but has improved dramatically, because of the whole "Yale or Jail" and "name school" driving a "state flagship" effect. The whole pressure around college credentials has driven up the quality of the student body at state flagship schools, especially in the higher population states.

    And finding those kids is not "needle in a haystack". They have this thing called GPA which is a big hint.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Recently Based

    Having been a consultant and participated in recruiting for an MBB firm, it’s not as simple as you think to get good economics recruiting from Ohio State, despite the fact that if you could immediately know with certainty who the best three guys were in the class that year, you would hire them gladly.

    Picking people for interviews isn’t as simple as ‘rank-order by GPA’. Everybody knows that course selection dominates GPA, and the ‘school team’ doing resume screening for a given school are usually all alums and know the difficult of individual classes and sub-majors, how to interpret participation in specific activities etc. Further, the really expensive resource is consultant time to do the presentations and interviews, and it’s not something you can outsource. The pass rate from ‘selected for interview’ to ‘job offer’ is something like 15% at a good school, and much lower at the more marginal schools in the target group (usually around 20 schools or so total). That’s the big problem at Ohio State (or wherever) which will have an even lower pass rate — you put in a ton of time doing resume reviews, multiple on-campus presentations, interviewing etc., and you end up getting 0-2 people for all that work. It’s much more effective to just bump your target by one kid from the core schools.

    • Thanks: Almost Missouri
  • @Jack D
    @Jon

    The Ivy League is a well known shorthand, even though some of the "lesser Ivies" are lower ranked than some other schools that you mention. People talk about Ivy Plus because no one can argue that Stanford and MIT do not rank alongside the TOP Ivies.

    The other schools that you mention rank alongside the lesser Ivies but not the top Ivies. Yes, Cornell gets some unjustified glory - good to know if you want Ivy prestige without having Ivy scores. Columbia was demoted as a punishment because they were caught cheating on their ranking submission - they are not really #18.

    There is no real science to this. Don't worry - if your kid goes to Vanderbilt the McKinsey recruiter will still talk to him. It's just an easy shorthand for "top colleges".

    Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy

    That is correct. When people talk about the Ivies, they usually mean Harvard-Princeton-Yale. Stanford and MIT are usually included in that group as well. The next tier is Penn, Columbia, CalTech Duke, and U. of Chicago.

    • Agree: Recently Based
    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @Hapalong Cassidy


    The next tier [below the top] is Penn, Columbia, CalTech Duke, and U. of Chicago.
     
    While this may be changing due to (((diversity))), again "one of these is not like the other." CalTech is a tiny school for undergraduates, ~250 per class. And very narrowly focused on science in particular (and perhaps math as well). Some good I gather engineering programs, but not all offer majors to undergraduates, including their famed aero-astro capability which includes JPL.

    Has a dorm room cleaning service as part of the system, I saw it described as a "Hogwarts for scientists." But historically not adversarial with a very strong honor system, access to master keys, etc. etc.

    Replies: @Jack D

  • The abstract of Raj Chetty's new study of the effects of getting into the Ivy League (plus Stanford, MIT, Duke, and Chicago) vs. the non-so-Ivy League (Rice, Northwestern, ND etc.) vs famous state flagships like UCLA and Michigan. DiversifyingSociety’s Leaders? The Determinants and Causal Effects of Admission to Highly Selective Private Colleges∗ Raj Chetty, Harvard...
  • @scrivener3
    @Rich

    Here's how I see it.

    There are some jobs that are almost impossible to performance evaluate. Fed Reserve Chairman. There can be millions of reasons the economy is doing better or worse, the inflation rate is low or high, etc. There are no other people doing similar jobs for performance comparisons. For that job you hire on credentials. You get a Princeton Economist because it is safe - Princeton is the best school. As things go to hell, I hired the best!

    Major bank/corporation legal issue. You hire the biggest name law firm. Nobody knows if your legal issues/troubles will turn out ok or a disaster but if you hired Harvard Law Alum firm, no one is going to second guess your decision, even if it turns out disaster. No one will say we could have had this disaster with Jacoby and Myers for half the cost. It is safe to buy the credential when performance evaluation is impossible.

    So many big govt bureaucratic jobs are completely credential based. There is no free market in govt services so there is no actual success or failure. There is no measure. No bottom line

    Finance in the age of fed expansion is not a difficult job. I knew a venture capitalist he spent hours evaluating companies but in the end it came down to throwing cheap nearly free money at thousands of questionable startups and if one hit and became Facebook or google it was greatly profitable. It was not brain surgery or rocket science. Just read about the startups getting financing - stupid silly business nearly obvious scams. The key here is to get the finance job. Then you are set, but it is hard to get.

    Now about going into the trades and making $ 150,00/yr. I read about someone who had a good idea that interested a venture capitalist. The VC said if you come in do you have any capital or is it just your idea. The idea man said: "I could put in maybe $ 250,000." The VC said: we'll put you down as no capital - that is less than my monthly Amex bill.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling, @Recently Based, @Jim Don Bob

    I read about someone who had a good idea that interested a venture capitalist. The VC said if you come in do you have any capital or is it just your idea. The idea man said: “I could put in maybe $ 250,000.” The VC said: we’ll put you down as no capital – that is less than my monthly Amex bill.

    I’ve had to pitch a number of household-name VC firms in my career, and subsequently raised and ran a VC fund. I am skeptical that any legitimate VC ever said anything like this.

  • @Jack D
    OT, but Biden's dog has apparently bitten at least 10 Secret Service agents, some of them badly enough that they had to go to the hospital.

    https://www.npr.org/2023/07/25/1189957208/biden-dog-commander-bites-secret-service-agents

    If I had a dog that bit 10 people, not only would the dog be put down but they would put me in jail.

    The article attempts to excuse this by saying that the White House is a stressful environment for a dog, but I don't care how stressful it is, I know that my late labradoodle would have never ever have attacked a human being without the utmost provocation (she was the world's worst guard dog but I didn't want a guard dog). Part of this is down to poor choice of breed (German Shepherd) and probably poor breeding but most of all it is down to poor training. As the article states, now that the dog has been allowed to bite 10 people with impunity, it is probably a hopeless case. You are never going to untrain that behavior.

    This is not even the 1st Biden dog that has been aggressive. Their previous dog (also a Shepherd) had to be removed from the WH. What is it with Bidens and German Shepherds? A Shepherd is a great dog for guarding a junk yard or the perimeter of a military base or something like that but they are way too protective to be in a dynamic situation where all sort of strangers are constantly approaching their masters.

    Replies: @guest, @Erronius, @Adolf Smith, @Alec Leamas (working from home), @rebel yell, @Anonymous, @Art Deco, @GeologyAnonMk8

    Let’s see; cocaine, hookers, illegal weapons, illegitimate children, extorted money, and now a mean dog.

    That sounds like an inner-city ghetto family to me.

    Next we’ll see Hunter out on the White House front lawn with a forty and a blunt hangin’ with his homies, with a huge boom-box thumping away.

    Pennsylvania Avenue is going ghetto! Sell your property now before the bottom falls out!

    Erronius

    • Agree: Mark G.
    • Replies: @Mike Conrad
    @Erronius


    Next we’ll see Hunter out on the White House front lawn...
     
    Yes indeed. Consider that his emails show him using the n-word more often and more readily than a rap star. Also consider that he's faced absolutely no condemnation for it.

    Nearly anyone else would have been written out of society.

    Also see:

    "You’d Go to Prison for What Hunter Biden Did" https://www.wsj.com/articles/youd-go-to-prison-for-what-hunter-biden-did-plea-deal-tax-violations-732f8cc0

    , @kaganovitch
    @Erronius


    That sounds like an inner-city ghetto family to me.
     
    In the long run, it was Corn-pop who won the 'Battle of the Pool'.
    , @Herbert R. Tarlek, Jr.
    @Erronius

    Let’s see; cocaine, hookers, illegal weapons, illegitimate children, extorted money, and now a mean dog.

    That sounds like an inner-city ghetto family to me.


    "Ghetto"? More like "shanty".

    https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/031/199/8dd.png

    , @Jim Don Bob
    @Erronius


    Next we’ll see Hunter out on the White House front lawn with a forty and a blunt hangin’ with his homies, with a huge boom-box thumping away.
     
    The Daily Mail has a picture of Hunter's LA sugar daddy Kevin Morris who lent him 2 mill and bought his paintings taking a big bong hit as Hunter came to his house. Ghetto indeed.

    https://ace.mu.nu/archives/sugarbrotherbongblaster.jpg
    , @DCThrowback, @DCThrowback
    @Erronius

    14 years later, the onion article is still relevant & rings true

    https://www.theonion.com/shirtless-biden-washes-trans-am-in-white-house-driveway-1819570732

  • Are we still calling institutions that take in hundreds of millions of dollars annually from the Federal Government private?

    I guess so. But let’s attach a mental asterisk.

  • iSteve commenter Guest007 writes: Steve, You should listen to this podcast about affirmative action where the guest was one of the expert witnesses in the Students for Fair Admissions lawsuit, Dr. Peter Arcidiacono from Duke University. ... Dr Arcidiacono talks a lot more about UNC-Chapel Hill than virtually everyone else, makes a reference to Amy...
  • @Guest007
    @Jack D

    According to Google,

    1.1% of MIT students are music majors. 0.7% are liberal arts majors. 0.5% are political science majors. 1% are architecture majors that does require some artistic skill.


    https://www.google.com/search?q=top+majors+at+mit&rlz=1C1OPNX_enUS956US956&oq=top+majors+at+MIT

    Google is your friend.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Recently Based

    If it’s anything like when I was there, ~100% of the 1.1% of music majors were double majors who also did a degree in a STEM subject. Same for at least a majority of the liberal arts and PoliSci majors. The architecture people were their own bizarre cult, and likely mostly did not do another major.

    The easy major was management. That’s what people tended to do who decided they couldn’t or just didn’t want to do the work for a STEM degree.

  • I read the dissident Czech novelist Milan Kundera's Book of Laughter and Forgetting in 1981 while sitting in my office for my part-time job at UCLA. Upon finishing, like Holden Caulfield in Catcher in the Rye, I felt: I couldn't figure out how to call up Kundera in Paris, but I did notice that the...
  • @Bill
    @Recently Based

    As Cagey Beast says, those two factual claims seem obviously true, so it's kind of hard to fault them either for noticing them or for being pissed about it. It would be better if they went on to consider Americans (iii) to be exporting their insane state religion to all of Europe to the horrible detriment of those living there. I don't get the sense that they do so consider, but I have had very limited exposure (though not zero) to the sort of people you are talking about.

    Replies: @Recently Based

    In my experience, there is a lot more of (iii) on the Continent, especially in France.

    The issue with the subset of Brits that I’m describing is that the reasons they think Americans are stupid and lucky are very likely almost the exact opposite reasons that I think you and CageyBeast have for thinking that.

  • @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Recently Based

    Yeah, I used to practically make a living by hanging out around Oxford types, debating them and letting them assume I was an idiot because I have just about the worst most annoying accent in the world, it practically screams "I am an American rube." Even in Japanese.

    It may in the grand scheme of things turn out that I am in fact stupid; but just not stupid in the ways that these chuckleheads thought I was. Garcon, check please... Poindexter here is paying, cuz he thinks he got the best of me, and I'm happy to let him think so.

    Replies: @Recently Based

    Same, in detail

  • Reference:
  • When I clicked on the original tweet, literally the next tweet in this guy’s timeline is one where he explains how awesome it is to be see the confused looks on white peoples’ faces when he is in a mix-raced group and speaks to other blacks in African-American vernacular (aka, jive).

    Shocking that white people don’t especially want to be in a mixed-race group with this nimrod.

    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
    @Recently Based

    Especially now that Barbara Billingsley (1915-2010) has passed.

  • I read the dissident Czech novelist Milan Kundera's Book of Laughter and Forgetting in 1981 while sitting in my office for my part-time job at UCLA. Upon finishing, like Holden Caulfield in Catcher in the Rye, I felt: I couldn't figure out how to call up Kundera in Paris, but I did notice that the...
  • @anon
    Practically all his short stories in Smesne Lasky ('Laughable Loves') prefigured Heartiste by five decades, and in the communist world at that. One, 'The Golden Apple of Eternal Desire,' even lays out explicitly the principles of what came to be known as day-game, with a strong admonishment to keep one's attitude light-hearted at all levels.

    People can deride Game all they want, but I would say that beating academic psychologists to the scientific punch on the real nature of women and sex was an unbelievable achievement for a bunch of thirsty but determined 21st century men. The problem is that the truth has such a nasty aspect that it tends to eventually convert serious Game advocates into total cynics or seekers of religious purity; thus, the desirability of lightheartedness. It's that or the fate of Don Giovanni.

    And following on from lightheartedness, Kundera was an immense talent in general, fully capable in what people are pleased to consider more serious work: when Tomas accelerates into an even more wanton level of womanizing in 'Unbearable Lightness of Being', Kundera knew whereof he spoke. But all of Tomas's actions take place in a detailed philosophical framework: an assessment of Nietszche's notion of eternal return. There was always an overarching theme like that to each of his novels, and intriguing linguistic insights as well. And often insights into something much more difficult to write meaningfully about, but which he was supremely well prepared to do: music.

    In translation from Czech, he was incomparable, and I consumed all that period of his work in English with gusto. When I tried to read 'Ignorance', one of the four novels he wrote in French after 1989 (note the significance of the date of his conversion from Czech to French - he never got over not being an active part of the Velvet Revolution), I put it down after a few pages. But perhaps I will return to try again some day.

    He lives on in his work.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Bill, @Recently Based

    I think that the social significance of Game (by whatever name) for young men in 2023 is completely under-rated by people that are the age of those who run the country, its universities, media, etc.

    As far as I can see, it is the way that young men connected by the internet have reacted to several interconnected phenomena:

    (1) Feminism (obviously), but also the broader female-centric nature of the West. Female earnings have, very roughly, caught up with male earnings. Combined with female hypergamy, this means that most women are uninterested in most men, which in turn means, that the most appealing guys have sexual access to more women than ever before, but the average guy has much less. This growing male sexual inequality is example of growing inequality across spheres….

    (2) …and economic and social inequality increasingly impacts every aspect of society — and not just income inequality. For example, we live in a time when the average American is overweight, but the hottest women are hotter than ever, and the most fit guys are jacked to a level impossible without PEDs.

    (3) The effects of this are exacerbated by new digital technologies, preeminently social media, that have globalized and liquified the sexual marketplace.

    (4) The death of Christianity as anything other than a private eccentricity, and with it, the pre-rational support for lifetime monogamous marriage that would otherwise buffer these effects.

    In many ways, we are simply returning to what has been the norm in most human societies throughout history — elite polygamy. Game is the attempt to figure out how to manage your life as a guy in this world without pretending that we still live in the America of 1970.

  • @Cagey Beast
    @AndrewR


    This is a large part of why I find British anti-Americanism to be so obnoxious. It boils down to “Britain is no longer the undisputed world ruler… Now we have to share power with those damn Y*nks”
     
    Do Brits like this really exist anymore? I wish they did but all the evidence suggests the Brits are a buck-broken people. The only anti-Americans left are also anti-imperialists. The rest of the British political spectrum seems to accept American leadership without question or self-restraint.

    Replies: @Recently Based

    Having spent years living in Britain, there are a ton of Brits (though very far from a majority) who won’t say it out loud, but basically consider Americans (i) to be quite stupid and (ii) to have lucked into an extremely powerful position, in which we don’t share power, but run things (for now). Generally, these people are white, have graduate degrees, live in London and are kind of pissed off about their station in life.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    @Recently Based

    They're right on all counts. Americans themselves could say the same about permanent Washington and be right too.

    , @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Recently Based

    Yeah, I used to practically make a living by hanging out around Oxford types, debating them and letting them assume I was an idiot because I have just about the worst most annoying accent in the world, it practically screams "I am an American rube." Even in Japanese.

    It may in the grand scheme of things turn out that I am in fact stupid; but just not stupid in the ways that these chuckleheads thought I was. Garcon, check please... Poindexter here is paying, cuz he thinks he got the best of me, and I'm happy to let him think so.

    Replies: @Recently Based

    , @Bill
    @Recently Based

    As Cagey Beast says, those two factual claims seem obviously true, so it's kind of hard to fault them either for noticing them or for being pissed about it. It would be better if they went on to consider Americans (iii) to be exporting their insane state religion to all of Europe to the horrible detriment of those living there. I don't get the sense that they do so consider, but I have had very limited exposure (though not zero) to the sort of people you are talking about.

    Replies: @Recently Based

  • @New Dealer
    I was momentarily delighted by TULOB as I fantasized pursuing as many sexual conquests as his. And by the light humor. Although womanizing and joking in salons is superior to study of Stalin's History of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (Bolsheviks) it nevertheless is a shallow achievement.

    For a while I was tempted to pick up one or another of his other books, but did not because I expected a cheap thrill that would quickly become irrelevant to the construction of my life.

    Replies: @Recently Based

    Growing up in smalltown USA, TULOB seemed like a window into this sophisticated world where I could hang out in cool cafes and hook up with hot European women by being smart and mentally quick on my feet. It turned out to be pretty relevant to the construction of my life.

  • @Bill
    @Anon

    They could be, but they aren't. Even at the undergraduate level, neither is typically taught in a rigorous way. It's pretty easy to teach statistics without really using calculus. Since "data science" can mean anything, you can definitely teach that without even algebra. "Here's how you run ArcGIS" can be an undergraduate course, though not by that name.

    Replies: @Recently Based

    Definitely agree that it is not taught in a theory-intensive way, even in college. But I think that if what you want to do is prepare people even for very good data science jobs, the theory is really irrelevant for 99% of them, and it will turn off the vast majority of people who could do well at data science (I say this as someone who did theoretical math in college and has employed a lot of data scientists).

  • From National Bureau of Economic Research (via Marginal Revolution): It's obviously a challenging methodological problem to work out, but the researchers conclude that for every one Asian kid who moves into an upscale California public school district, 1.5 white kids leave. The impact of the Asian influx on white upper middle class families strikes me...
  • The basis of competition in Asian-American school environments tends be grinding out better performance in highly structured activities — SAT scores, AP scores, grades in high school classes that are the object of ridicule by the smartest kids in any school, repetitive practice on stringed instruments, etc. It’s endless drudgery for at least 6, and usually more like 10, years of childhood and adolescence. I’d be disappointed in my kids if they didn’t revolt against that.

    And kids who spend their time diving deep into math and science somewhat on their own, reading interesting novels, getting into arguments with their friends about Freud or Aristotle, etc. end up much better educated, and if you’re willing to take the bet that you do have smart kids, will likely end up not only being more interesting people, but making more money and being more conventionally successful in the end anyway.

  • Hail says: • Website

    White Flight from Asian Immigration: Evidence from California Public Schools

    Leah Platt Boustan, Christine Cai & Tammy Tseng

    Leah Platt Boustan: By own telling, she is 100% Jewish by origin, and quite proud of it. (BA, Princeton, 2000; PhD, Harvard, 2006.)

    Christine Cai: Chinese origin; born ca.1993. (BA, Sciences Po [Paris], 2013; MA, same, 2015; as of 2023, nearing end of PhD track, Princeton.) Languages: “French (native), Chinese dialect of Wenzhou (native), English (fluent), Spanish (advanced), Mandarin Chinese (intermediate), Korean (notions).”

    Tammy Tseng: Chinese origin. (BA, Princeton, 2019.) Hometown: Fremont, California. This city, in the Bay Area, has had more Asians than Whites since the late 1990s already. On the 2000 census, Fremont ‘clocked’-in at: 37% full-Asian, 35.5% White. By the late 2010s, Fremont was down to 25% White, up to 60% Asian (depending on how you count). The latest census estimate, applicable to the early 2020s, puts Fremont — a city of 230,000+ residents — at around 65% Asian (61% full-Asian, several-% part-Asian) and down to 19% White non-Hispanic. Incredible! (What say ye, advocates of White–Asian mutual assimilation?)

    Professor Boustan credits Tammy Tseng with the idea to study the “White Flight” problem away from Asians when Asians begin to ‘tip’ places; the idea dating back in the late-2010s. Tammy Tseng’s idea with this study was to confront and grapple with the harmful stereotype “that white families like this ‘model minority’,” in Prof. Boustan’s words. These academic-papers tend to take time to go through the pipeline, and one suspects the “Stop Asian Hate” movement of 2021-2022 (rather inorganic, except in self-serving terms) to be involved.

    Three Woke-women; no White-Christians involved except as objects of study about how bad they supposedly are for White-Flighting again, which oppresses (?) Asians. “American academia.” “Our institutions.” Interesting…

    Are Tammy Tseng and Christine Cai, and to some extent maybe the Jewish-woman lead here, =engaging in a form of triumphalism? Whatever it is, with the purported idea-girl Tammy Tseng, it’s actually thinly veiled biography. The story of the pushing-out of Freemont, California, of about half its Whites since around the late 1990s; the achievement of a two-thirds Asian majority by the early 2020s. This is an extreme case but the phenomenon can be found all over the place.

    Fremont, California, census 2000
    – White non-Hispanics: ca. 72,500
    – Asians: ca. 81,500 (incl. ‘full’ and ‘part’-Asians)
    – Others: ca. 49,500

    Fremont, California, early 2020s census estimate
    – White non-Hispanics: ca. 42,500 [-41.5% absolute decline]
    – Asians: ca. 155,000 (incl. ‘full’ and ‘part’-Asians) [+90% absolute increase]
    – Others: ca. 32,500 [-34% absolute decline]

    • Replies: @Hail
    @Hail

    White non-Hispanics counted in Fremont, Calif., 1970 census:
    - ca. 87,500 (88% of city population)

    Asians counted in Fremont, 1970 census:
    - ca. 2,000

    .

    White non-Hispanics in Fremont, 2020-2022 census estimate:
    - ca. 42,500 (18% of city population) [-51.5% absolute-loss, vs. 1970]

    Asians in Fremont, 2020-2022 census estimate:
    - ca. 155,000 (65%+ of city population) [+7,650% absolute-increase, vs. 1970]

    --

    Cf., for general reference: "Who Lost California?"

    , @anonymous
    @Hail

    "Are Tammy Tseng and Christine Cai, and to some extent maybe the Jewish-woman lead here, =engaging in a form of triumphalism?"

    I think you are engaging in so much effort in a trivial issue because you don't want to do the hard stuff? Someone with statistical skills needs to come up with a framework for analying how many healthy people in the US were killed in 2021-2022 by the Pfizer vaccine.

    Replies: @Elaine, @ic1000

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Hail


    Fremont, California. This city, in the Bay Area, has had more Asians than Whites since the late 1990s already. On the 2000 census, Fremont ‘clocked’-in at: 37% full-Asian, 35.5% White.
     
    Hasn't Frémont been Afghan Central in the US for sixty years or so? How are they counted? Or have they moved on, like the Hmong have from other cities?

    I worked with a young Afghan-Californian about 30 years ago. No accent, she may even have been born here. She supported the anti-Soviet mujahideen. A friend, a left-wing-but-pro-RKBA haole from Hawaii, would tease her that her allies would never stand for a California girl like her. She shrugged it off; she wasn't going back anytime soon.

    The Afghan-Soviet affair is a classic case of "a plague on both your houses".

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @jimmyriddle

    , @ic1000
    @Hail

    More on lead author Leah Boustan. She was one of the many Princeton faculty who signed this July 4, 2020 letter addressed to the university's administration. Classics prof Joshua Katz' sharp rebuttal triggered Princeton's successful jihad against him (Boustan is silent on that).


    Dear President Eisgruber, Provost Prentice, Deans Kulkarni and Dolan, Vice President for Campus Life Calhoun, and members of the Princeton Cabinet,

    Anti-Blackness is foundational to America. It plays a role in where we live and where we are welcome. It influences the level of healthcare we receive. It determines the degree of risk we are assumed to pose in contexts from retail to lending and beyond. It informs the expectations and tactics of law-enforcement. Anti-Black racism has hamstrung our political process. It is rampant in even our most “progressive” communities. And it plays a powerful role at institutions like Princeton, despite declared values of diversity and inclusion.
     

    The exposition of the academic nomenklatura's luxury beliefs continues below the fold.

    Anti-Black racism has a visible bearing upon Princeton’s campus makeup and its hiring practices. It is the problem that faculty of color are routinely called upon to remedy by making ourselves visible; by persuading our white colleagues to overcome bias in hiring, admission, and recruitment efforts; and by serving as mentors and support networks for junior faculty and students seeking to thrive in an environment where they are not prioritized. Indifference to the effects of racism on this campus has allowed legitimate demands for institutional support and redress in the face of micro-aggression and outright racist incidents to go long unmet.

    At this moment of massive global uprising in the name of racial justice, we the faculty—Black, Latinx, Asian, and members of all communities of color along with our white colleagues—call upon the University to take immediate concrete and material steps to openly and publicly acknowledge the way that anti-Black racism, and racism of any stripe, continue to thrive on its campus. We call upon the administration to block the mechanisms that have allowed systemic racism to work, visibly and invisibly, in Princeton’s operations. We call upon the University to amplify its commitment to Black people and all people of color on this campus as central to its mission, and to become, for the first time in its history, an anti-racist institution.

    We urge you to acknowledge and give priority to the following demands:

    [Additional Kendi-esque, DiAngelo-esque agitprop paragraphs ensue, followed by the enumeration of the Professors' forty-eight demands.]
     

    Replies: @Hail

  • @Mark G.
    @AnotherDad


    That begins with stopping the immigration insanity–a prerequisite to anything resembling civilization–but does not end there.
     
    We really aren't going to be able to maintain the current status quo and continue business as usual in the future: a large welfare state to take care of blacks and incoming poorly educated Hispanics, a trillion-dollar military playing policeman for the world, spending 18% of GDP on medical care in order to enrich big pharma and the medical cartel, letting everyone retire at 65 and keeping Social Security benefit levels the same, sending large numbers of young people to college to major in worthless subjects and having the middle class move out to suburbs and drive everywhere in cars because we don't want to deal with the big city black crime problem that makes life unpleasant there.

    We are entering the beginning of a long-term economic crisis and government fiscal crisis because of increasing numbers of poor, low IQ nonwhites at the bottom of society and a rapidly expanding number of wealthy special interest groups at the top who want to use the government to transfer wealth over to them. These two groups have formed an alliance since they are really pretty much the same. Members of a black family on welfare doing drugs down in the ghetto and members of the Biden family doing drugs in the White House is how this country is ending up. Instead of all this stopping because of any arguments against it, it will stop because of Stein's law that anything that can't go on forever someday stops.

    Replies: @Recently Based, @epebble, @Guest007, @rushed boob job, @Art Deco

    Agree, and it can’t go on forever, but it might go on for a very long time.

    I don’t think I’m being hyperbolic when I say this what imperial decline looks like. Rome went on like this for hundreds of years. I don’t think that’s the smart-money bet for America, but who knows?

    • Agree: Adam Smith, Houston 1992
    • Replies: @Bill
    @Recently Based

    There are mechanisms operating now which didn't much operate then.

    At some point, the US gets too weak to simply dictate its will worldwide. After that, if, e.g., Australia wants to go back to the White Australia policy, who's going to stop them? Or, more likely, if some of the more functional Latin American countries want to be more explicit in their "We like white people, and there are pretty much no blacks here" appeal, who's going to stop them? Living in Patagonia looks more appealing all the time. Then the US deflates quickly via emigration. Which seems kind of fitting, actually.

  • Looking at the CDC multiple cause of death data for people under age 45, it's clear that 2022 was the best year so far in this lousy decade. After deaths of younger Americans shot up 22% in 2020 over 2019 and 12% in 2021, total deaths (all causes) dropped approaching 9% in 2022: age 0...
  • The Covid of 2022 was not really the same as the Covid of 2020 and 2021. A milder and more transmissible variant became dominant. This type of thing tends to happen with this type of virus. A virus that becomes less transmissible and immediately kills its host soon dies out, so these viruses usually evolve in the opposite direction. People don’t die in large numbers from Covid now for the same reason they don’t die in large numbers from the 1918 Spanish flu, 1957 Asian flu or 1967 Hong Kong flu now.

    People know the disease is not really the same disease, which is why demand for the vaccines has cratered and many governments find themselves sitting on large stockpiles of vaccines that they will need to throw away. These same governments are now trying to squirm out of contracts with big pharma to buy even more of them.

    Things are never going to return to normal after this. We locked down the country and printed up and passed out trillions of dollars to try to offset the negative economic effects for a disease where the average age of death was 78 and which 99.7% of those under sixty survived. It caused high inflation, which we will ultimately fail to get under control, and a contracting economy. Incomes adjusted for inflation have dropped 26 months in a row. A collection of parasitic special interests has fastened itself on the country and is slowly sucking it dry. One of these parasitic special interests is the big pharma/medical cartel/government health regulatory agency combo which brought us economically damaging lockdowns, killed large numbers of people in hospitals with ventilators and Remdesivir, forced young people to get vaccinations that may have done more harm than good, and threatened to take the licenses of doctors who were trying to develop and implement early home treatment programs that would have saved hundreds of thousands of lives.

    • Thanks: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    @Mark G.

    ".... forced young people to get vaccinations that may have done more harm than good ...."

    If these Covid vaccines do turn out to have done more harm than good, how confident can we be that the evidence would be accepted and become common knowledge? I don't think most people or institutions could handle that. They'd do almost everything in their power to deny it.

    , @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Mark G.

    "It caused high inflation, which we will ultimately fail to get under control, and a contracting economy. Incomes adjusted for inflation have dropped 26 months in a row. A collection of parasitic special interests has fastened itself on the country and is slowly sucking it dry."

    So in other words, a smashing success. Everything went according to (((scheme))) I mean plan.

    Meanwhile of course, the first of the planned Million Monkey Marches proceeds apace without a hitch, anyone who objects is a "domestic terrorist" and "white supremacist", various legal and government precedents are being set every day which will bring us that much closer to our cherished "Gulags for Goyim" and "Hard Assets for Soft Pennies" policies. SlavSlaughter 9000: the Enstupiding is still running smoothly, soon there will be plenty of ruined empty Ukraine ready for Israel 2.0, plus stuffed to the gills with widowed shiksas ripe for trafficking.

    It's great to be MOT.

    , @Corpse Tooth
    @Mark G.

    "A milder and more transmissible variant became dominant."

    That's what I came down with the first two weeks of January 2023. I was and continue to be untainted by the mRNA gene therapy drug. My immune system dealt with it and came out stronger. Not sure about the "mild" bit though: Like a truck hit me. Throughout the illness I contacted no medical authorities and remained smugly self-satisfied that I didn't fall for the poison pushed by the technocracy.

    , @Dmon
    @Mark G.

    Agree completely. And don't forget elimination of any safeguards to election fraud, establishment of open government censorship of media with the widespread enthusiastic cooperation of said media, and justification of the use of government emergency powers for any purpose desired by the executive ("Racism is a Public Health Crisis"). Not to mention the transformation of the "Intelligence" community into some weird hybrid of pre and post 1933 Germany, as if Hitler had combined the SS and the SA, giving the regime the ability to enforce it's will with either covert police state action or violent street thuggery, as the situation demanded.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Mark G.


    People don’t die in large numbers from Covid now for the same reason they don’t die in large numbers from the 1918 Spanish flu, 1957 Asian flu or 1967 Hong Kong flu now...
     
    ...or Ebola, ever.
    , @Mr. Anon
    @Mark G.


    Things are never going to return to normal after this. We locked down the country and printed up and passed out trillions of dollars to try to offset the negative economic effects for a disease where the average age of death was 78 and which 99.7% of those under sixty survived. It caused high inflation, which we will ultimately fail to get under control, and a contracting economy. Incomes adjusted for inflation have dropped 26 months in a row. A collection of parasitic special interests has fastened itself on the country and is slowly sucking it dry. One of these parasitic special interests is the big pharma/medical cartel/government health regulatory agency combo which brought us economically damaging lockdowns, killed large numbers of people in hospitals with ventilators and Remdesivir, forced young people to get vaccinations that may have done more harm than good, and threatened to take the licenses of doctors who were trying to develop and implement early home treatment programs that would have saved hundreds of thousands of lives.
     
    You summarized the situation well. One thing you missed though - the Summer of George - that three-month long nation-wide temper-tantrum that helped usher in the woke-regime. That also wreaked untold havoc on this country (there were even riots in other countries). I think that the SoG was directly enabled by the COVID lock-down regime - all those young people with nothing to do and nowhere to be in the morning and neading an outlet for their passions.
    , @AnotherDad
    @Mark G.


    Things are never going to return to normal after this. We locked down the country and printed up and passed out trillions of dollars to try to offset the negative economic effects for a disease where the average age of death was 78 and which 99.7% of those under sixty survived. It caused high inflation, which we will ultimately fail to get under control, and a contracting economy. Incomes adjusted for inflation have dropped 26 months in a row. A collection of parasitic special interests has fastened itself on the country and is slowly sucking it dry.
    ...

     

    I tend to be pretty pessimistic as well, but a lot of people--usual younger--focus on the pandemic, lockdowns, money printing binge, etc. But none of that actually matters very much.

    The US ran up its debt very dramatically to fight the War. Basically, wracked up an entire pre-war GDP's worth of spend on top of taxation, and ended up with debt-to-GDP ratio of something like 115--very similar to where we are today.

    But that America was 90% white, had far and away the world's largest industrial economy and relatively sane and patriotic national elite, with a nationalist uplift ideology. If we had all that today, we'd sail right on through the covid debt no problem.

    But we are not that country. Whites are down to something nearing 60% of the US population--and dropping fast. China is the world's largest industrial economy. And we have a toxic minoritarian ideology, propagandized by a disloyal parasitic elite, controlling a graspy super-state with tens of millions of parasitic hangers on and waving millions of foreigners across the border. We're further and further from 1945 America every day.

    That's the crisis.

    Hang our "elites" from lampposts, toss out minoritarianism for majoritarian nationalism, close the border and end mass immigration, rein in government and finance, shut down parasitic grifts and get people back to work producing ... and while we'd never be the nation we were, we could turn this thing around pretty smartly--and our debt level quite tractable.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @The Germ Theory of Disease

  • Ken Burns made a recent documentary about how the U.S. hadn't done enough to stop the Nazi genocide of Jews during WWII. I had always assumed that the Holocaust proceeded at a steady clip until the end of the war. But that's not really true. Something I hadn't realized, however, is that perhaps the single...
  • @Anonymous
    @Recently Based


    I think the Australian and Canadian skills-based systems are vastly superior to our own
     
    Yeah, importing an alien overclass is really the height of wisdom.

    Replies: @Recently Based

    I think that immigration into the US is like salt in a stew: a little bit adds flavor and is a positive, but too much is poison.

    Obviously, deciding “how much” is the open political question, but I don’t think any attractive country on earth has a policy of literally zero legal immigration. I think that whatever number of immigrants we allow, we should pick them based on who will most improve the lives of the existing citizens.

    • Agree: Hibernian
  • @Steve Sailer
    @Recently Based

    Not much demand for immigration to the US after the stock market crash of 1929.

    Replies: @Truth Vigilante, @Recently Based

    We obviously can’t know for sure what SE European immigration would have been say 1930 – 1939 because of legal restrictions, but we do know that (i) Congress had to set up the final national origins restrictions in 1929 that had been conceptually agreed to in 1924,, after a multi-year process t set the final numbers; (ii) all quotas were filled very year (to my knowledge) from SE European countries through the 1930s; and (iii) immigration from Canada and Mexico (according to the act, actually anywhere in the Western Hemisphere) was not restricted in the 1924 act (basically because this concession was required to get Southern Democrats to support it), and there was large-scale immigration from both countries until it was further restricted, partially because some Europeans were using it as a loophole, by “moving” to Mexico and then rapidly immigrating into the US.

    Again, I’m neither saying nor implying that any of these laws were good or bad, just that all the evidence I’m aware of indicates that there was significant demand to immigrate into the US at least through WWII.

  • Looking at the CDC multiple cause of death data for people under age 45, it's clear that 2022 was the best year so far in this lousy decade. After deaths of younger Americans shot up 22% in 2020 over 2019 and 12% in 2021, total deaths (all causes) dropped approaching 9% in 2022: age 0...
  • Real question: Is there any 22-year period in the 20th century in which boring old whitebread America accomplished less than vibrant, diverse America 21st century America has so far?

    For example, 1930-1952 might have been the most unpleasant 22 years in the 20th century — including the Great Depression and the carnage of WWII and then Korea — but America certainly achieved an enormous amount over this period.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Recently Based

    “Is there any 22-year period in the 20th century in which boring old whitebread America accomplished less than vibrant, diverse America 21st century America has so far?”

    False conclusion.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

  • Ken Burns made a recent documentary about how the U.S. hadn't done enough to stop the Nazi genocide of Jews during WWII. I had always assumed that the Holocaust proceeded at a steady clip until the end of the war. But that's not really true. Something I hadn't realized, however, is that perhaps the single...
  • @Peter Akuleyev
    @Jack D

    The majority of German (and Austrian Jews) actually did survive, either because they did emigrate or because German Jews actually had better legal defenses against the Nazi government than „stateless“ Polish Jews. Germans being a fairly legalistic and officious people.

    In the 1930s Polish Jews didn’t realize they had to emigrate. And even if they had, given that they were much poorer and far less assimilated into Western culture than German Jews, it would have been a tough sell.

    Replies: @Recently Based

    Just a specific point that there was massive immigration into the US of eastern European Jews in the early twentieth century that was only halted by a series of immigration laws culminating in the Immigration Act of 1924 (the so-called National Origins Act, or Johnson-Reed Act) that severely restricted immigration from southern and eastern Europe. So a large number of Polish, Russian, Hungarian, etc. Jews almost certainly would have emigrated prior to 1939 had that law not been in effect. (I’m not arguing for or against that law.)

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Recently Based

    Not much demand for immigration to the US after the stock market crash of 1929.

    Replies: @Truth Vigilante, @Recently Based

    , @Corvinus
    @Recently Based

    “I’m not arguing for or against that law.)”

    Considering that your relatives came from that neck of the woods. I understand your fence sitting.

  • @Art Deco
    @Jack D

    Federal legislation at the time permitted the mortgaging of immigration quotas, and this feature was used on behalf of refugees from Germany.
    ==
    Note Wm. Rubenstein's estimate that 72% of the Jewish population of Germany had emigrated by September 1939. It's a reasonable guess that the rest would have been gone in a couple of years had war not broken out.
    ==
    A lot of other countries (Canada, Australia) have smart immigration programs where they try to select immigrants who will be job creators, not multigenerational suckers of social services but we just let everyone stroll across the border.
    ==
    The way to avoid having people be 'multigenerational suckers of social services' is to structure your common provision to incorporate programs which provide benefits to most social strata (in medical care, long-term care, schooling, legal services, and shipping & transportation), open ended income transfers which benefit the elderly and disabled and which require buy-in, time-delimited transfers and indemnities for the injured and those between jobs (and which require buy-in), and matching funds for earned income delivered via the tax collection apprat. If you don't provide open-ended doles for working aged people or subsidize their mundane expenditures, you won't provide a conduit for them to leave the working population. If you enforce the law with vigor, you close the porthole to garnering a living from vice and crime.
    ==
    The intersection of this with immigration policy is that you do not admit households headed by an old or disabled person and you grant access to common provision only incrementally, requiring a head of household be employed for 48 quarters fte or thereabouts 'ere his house has access to common provision on a par with native citizens.
    ==
    When you admit an immigrant, you are admitting all his descendants as well. Families rise and decline one generation to the next in their skill sets and earning power. Short term, 'skills-based' immigration is a species of economic planning, something you should avoid. Persons have skills, but you're not importing skills, you're importing a person. You can arrange for your natives to learn the skills. Canada has wildly excessive immigration flows and the people they import are a useful tool for Canada's chatterati and their allies in the political class, who are warring on heritage Canadians and denigrating their achievements and way of life. Canadians do not need that. They benefit from people who are willing and able to sign on to the Canadian way of life, contribute to it, and defend it.

    Replies: @Recently Based

    I think the Australian and Canadian skills-based systems are vastly superior to our own, but agree that selecting for skills is not as good as selecting for talent. One simple approach would be to have some basic standards (no criminal record, physically and mentally health, etc.) and then give an IQ test and select the highest-scorers. (And yes, I know this will never happen.)

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Recently Based


    I think the Australian and Canadian skills-based systems are vastly superior to our own
     
    Yeah, importing an alien overclass is really the height of wisdom.

    Replies: @Recently Based

  • From my new column in Taki's Magazine: Read the whole thing there.
  • I’ve been pounding away in these comments about this point exactly. Not much is going to change in college admissions becuase of this decision.

  • This is from the hopefully soon famous Adolescent Brain Cognitive Development (ABCD) database of over 10,000 American ten-year-olds, categorized by the parent's (usually mom's) self-identified religion. The horizontal axis is IQ, with atheist moms averaging 109, followed by Jewish moms at 108. The vertical axis is the polygenic score for educational attainment. The graph is...
  • @Anon
    @Recently Based

    You are totally wrong.

    Promiscuity is lower today for both men AND women.

    And it is actually WOMEN who are driving today's sex recession!! Sexlessness is rising faster among women.

    https://ifstudies.org/ifs-admin/resources/figure1final-w640.png

    https://ifstudies.org/ifs-admin/resources/figure2new-9-w640.png

    https://ifstudies.org/ifs-admin/resources/figure4-17-w640.png

    https://ifstudies.org/ifs-admin/resources/figure5-13-w640.png

    Replies: @Recently Based

    I stand corrected.

  • From The Guardian news section: ‘We are seen as less human’: inside Marseille’s districts abandoned by the police In 2021 Emmanuel Macron promised victims of the city’s drug crime he would help. Grieving residents tell how he failed them Mark Townsend in Marseille @townsendmark Sat 1 Jul 2023 13.09 EDT ... Since then Amine and...
  • Hypothetically grant everything every Guardian writer and black activist claims.

    Doesn’t anybody ever wonder why it is that the same people are harassed and held back, put in prison, etc. in America, the UK, France, Canada, Japan, Australia, Sweden, South Korea, China, Switzerland, and on and on? They aren’t saying the French are racist, they’re saying that every successful society is racist.

    And if you accept that, then what?

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
  • This is from the hopefully soon famous Adolescent Brain Cognitive Development (ABCD) database of over 10,000 American ten-year-olds, categorized by the parent's (usually mom's) self-identified religion. The horizontal axis is IQ, with atheist moms averaging 109, followed by Jewish moms at 108. The vertical axis is the polygenic score for educational attainment. The graph is...
  • @Anon
    As time goes on, the IQ of non-atheists will only continue to decline.

    At some point virtually everyone has gotten the message that there is no god and that religion is mass mental illness and degeneracy, and at that point the bar gets set really low. Either you are a sentient creature or you are an atheist. There can be no in-between.

    I would also wager that there is an inherent moral factor at work here, with immoral people (such as pathological liars and narccishits) being unable to give up the theism. It takes a certain degree of honesty to acknowledge the truth, and some people are so immoral they refuse to acknowledge any truth that doesn't suit their fancy. This is also a feminine attribute.

    Hence the religous IQ will continue to shift towards the black IQ, as religious adherents become increasingly low IQ, immoral, female, and insectoid. In a few centuries I would expect them to become fully speciated through genetic isolation and inbreeding, possibly to the point of achieving asexual reproduction. By this time theism will have long been recognized for the genotoxic, estrogenic and degenerate belief that it is, and will have long since been banned in the first world.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Recently Based

    I suspect you think this comment makes you seem smart.

    • Agree: Bill
  • @Anon
    @PhysicistDave

    Typical clueless boomer comment.

    Sexual promiscuity is lower today than it was 50 years ago. Sexual promiscuity does indeed lead to happiness.

    Sex, money, fame, all these things are the principle sources of happiness.
    Denial of this truth is one reason why the first world is so unhappy.
    Inability to attain them is another reason.

    Replies: @Recently Based, @PhysicistDave, @James Speaks, @Thoughts

    Sexual promiscuity is falling for men and rising for women.

    (https://medicalxpress.com/news/2018-04-women-loosening-sexually.html#:~:text=In%20a%20study%20of%20sexual,3%20percent%20to%207%20percent.)

    At the same time that the average male sexual promiscuity has declined, male sexual inequality has risen. The top 5% of guys are swimming in it, the next 20% of guys are doing well and the remaining 75% are struggling. A little less than 30% of males 18-30 have not had sex in the past year.

    This sucks for most men, and actually is no great shakes for most women, as what it means is that women are increasingly sharing the top guys and not getting commitment. Welcome the slow arrival of de facto polygamy.

    • Agree: Mark G.
    • Replies: @Anon
    @Recently Based

    You are totally wrong.

    Promiscuity is lower today for both men AND women.

    And it is actually WOMEN who are driving today's sex recession!! Sexlessness is rising faster among women.

    https://ifstudies.org/ifs-admin/resources/figure1final-w640.png

    https://ifstudies.org/ifs-admin/resources/figure2new-9-w640.png

    https://ifstudies.org/ifs-admin/resources/figure4-17-w640.png

    https://ifstudies.org/ifs-admin/resources/figure5-13-w640.png

    Replies: @Recently Based

    , @Mark G.
    @Recently Based


    This sucks for most men, and actually is no great shakes for most women, as what it means is that women are increasingly sharing the top guys and not getting commitment.
     
    There have been scientific studies that have found people who are married or in long term committed relationships are healthier and live longer than people who aren't. The standard template of getting an education, starting a career, getting married and raising children has in the past been the recipe for happiness and long life.

    Changes in recent years have been harmful both for individuals and society as a whole. The prospect of marriage and regular sex acted as an incentive for males to work hard to be the male breadwinner type who would make a good provider husband. The rise of the welfare state has enabled women to become married to the government. Men who work have to pay taxes to pay for this welfare state and also be blocked from promotions due to affirmative action so women can get the higher paying jobs instead. Increasing numbers of males are dropping out of the work force. As they drop out and tax revenues dwindle, the welfare state that women have come to depend on will start running out of money.

    Women may like the sex with the more sexually desirable men, and those men may also enjoy it, but as these women age, they will find themselves alone. The men they shunned at an earlier age may not be interested in them when their youthful attractiveness is gone. This is especially the case if they had a kid or two with some long gone handsome bad boy type. The men they rejected are not going to marry them and financially support them in their old age and also will not be interested in funding government benefits for them by working hard and paying taxes.
  • @Mr. XYZ
    Why aren't Episcopalians listed here? Not enough of them in this study?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @FKA Max, @Colin Wright, @HA

    ‘Why aren’t Episcopalians listed here? Not enough of them in this study?’

    Off the chart. We’d point that out to the Jews, but it would be in bad taste.

    • Agree: Mike Conrad, Renard
    • Thanks: Gordo
  • Will any of the justices notice that the new issue of the 21st Century is the Asian flood?
  • What’s the Supreme Court’s Affirmative Action Decision Going to be?

    Inconsequential.

    I read through the transcripts of the SCOTUS arguments, and I don’t think that even a decision in this case that accepts the plaintiff’s position in toto would do very much.

    The lawyers arguing against affirmative action accept over-and-over that race can be used in all kinds of ways as long as in some metaphysical way that they can’t define it isn’t used as the sole factor. Here’s a representative example, of which there are many (Strawbridge is the lawyer arguing against affirmative action):

    JUSTICE ALITO: Mr. Strawbridge, let
    me give you a hypothetical along the lines of
    some of what you’ve been questioned about
    already. Suppose that a student is an immigrant
    from Africa and moves to a rural area in western
    North Carolina where the population is
    overwhelmingly white. And the student in an
    essay doesn’t say I was subjected to any kind of
    overt discrimination, but I did have to deal
    with huge cultural differences. I had to find a
    way of relating to my classmates who came from
    very different backgrounds.
    Would that be permissible?
    MR. STRAWBRIDGE: I think that that
    would generally be permissible because the —
    the preference in that case is not being based
    upon the race but upon the cultural experiences
    or the ability to adapt or the fact of
    encountering a new language in a new — in a new
    environment.

    Universities will be able to drive a truck through that.

    https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_audio/2022

  • Rather like the late Robert Maxwell, Arnon Milchan is a real life Bond Villain, an Israeli nuclear spy who has also produced 158 Hollywood movies (most of them forgettable, but some pretty good like L.A. Confidential, Fight Club, and Heat). Whenever I see his name in the credits, which is often, I say, "Hey, it's...
  • @Almost Missouri
    @ic1000

    Yeah, Milchan takes up large swathes of space in James "Puzzle Palace" Bamford's recent Spy Fail: Foreign Spies, Moles, Saboteurs, and the Collapse of America's Counterintelligence.

    Besides that Milchan was the go-between on Israeli-South African arms deals and offered to help apartheid South Africa enjoy the same favorable western press as apartheid Israel, Bamford notes that:

    • Milchan is a multi-billionaire. His net worth is unknown, having been only partly exposed in the Pandora Papers. It is likely that most of this money derives not from making forgettable movies, but from deep state (and Deepstate) sources. The movie business is a front and a propaganda platform, not a profit center.

    • Milchan and Netanyahu worry less about US law—which they can brush aside easily enough—than Israeli law.

    • Milchan has dual Israeli/Monaco citizenship. His Monaco citizenship gives him tax-free status. (The biggest advantage of tax free status likely isn't not paying taxes, but rather not having government revenuers looking into your "business". )

    • Milchan was recruited into Israeli intel by Shimon Peres at the discotheque owned by Mandy "Profumo" Rice-Davies and her Israeli husband. His main responsibility was to help develop Israel's nuclear and bioweapon programs.

    And much, much more, as they say. Don't wait for the craven NY Times to print it, because they never will.

    All of Bamford's books are recommended for iSteve readers. (As Mark "War Nerd Podcast" Ames noted, Spy Fail shows conspiracy theories about election meddling and Pizzagate-esque pedo-rings are true, just not about who the conspiracy theorists say.)

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Lurker, @Corpse Tooth, @Recently Based

    Excellent analysis in general.

    As someone who has seriously considered it (and may still do it), and knows other people who have done this, the biggest advantage of of tax-free status is generally the straightforward one of not paying any income tax. There are million legal pretexts for the US government to look into your business if they want to.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Recently Based


    There are million legal pretexts for the US government to look into your business if they want to.
     
    Sure, but if you're a taxpayer, they already are looking into your business—with your cooperation!

    OTOH, if your financial affairs are dispersed between Monaco, Israel, and the Caribbean, it is much harder for the Feds to get a look-in whenever they have a mind to.
  • Back in March, my Taki's column "To Encourage the Others" looked at the trend toward colleges trying to fire tenured professors for sacrilege, such as Charles Negy, who was fired by Central Florida for, among other heresies, retweeting my one-liner: "Instead, The Establishment views blacks as our Sacred Cows, above criticism, but beneath agency." Now,...
  • @Pixo
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    “there could be a positive trend starting”

    And RFK Jr could win the 2024 election! So much twitter buzz!

    Actually 5 anecdata tweets isn’t evidence of anything in a nation of 340 million.

    All statistics I have seen indicates Zoomers are far more pozzed in every possible way than prior generations. Gayer, lefter, trannyer, woker.

    I don’t blame them, brainwashing works on most people most of the time, and their parents bear responsibility for giving them soy, woke TV time, and addictive brainwarping computer tablets.

    The gay jewish guy trying to be a middle school teacher in a declining West Mass mill town probably is doing the right thing for himself finding another job, and he’ll probably end up with a settlement. He’s way too soft for that job.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Reg Cæsar, @Recently Based, @Kylie, @Almost Missouri

    All statistics I have seen indicates Zoomers are far more pozzed in every possible way than prior generations. Gayer, lefter, trannyer, woker.

    Definitely true on average, but smart white and just-edgy-enough-to-get-laid-without-blowing-the-Goldman-internship males under about 20 are increasingly based. They are thought leaders who other guys look up to and girls “look up to”. Being woke is increasingly seen as downscale and “mid”.

  • At least the movie "Hidden Figures" claimed that blacks got America into outer space, which would be cool if true. In contrast, the current film "Flamin' Hot" claims (dubiously) that a Latino invented a junk food brand extension.
  • @AceDeuce
    @Recently Based


    Those guys out busting their asses at 7am doing construction work? The ladies cleaning up your office? The teenage guy who gives the old lady a seat on the subway? Basically everybody who works in every restaurant kitchen? They’re not speaking Swedish.
     
    They're not paying taxes, either.

    Replies: @Recently Based

    Fair enough.

    It just that if it weren’t for the f’cked up affirmative action and related elite social and media norms, I think that they would be on the normal path to their grandchildren being regular upstanding citizens. I’m not saying that I would expect proportional representation in theoretical physics, but I don’t see that from, say, the Irish or Italians either (my background). But I’m still glad to have them in a war. It would also be a problem if they were too high a percentage of the population, but again, it’s really hard for me to hold that against people who bust their asses working.

  • @bomag
    @Recently Based


    ...my interactions with hispanic people are generally really good.
     
    Okay, but that shouldn't generate the dynamic of giving away your own ethnic groups' resources and positions to favor them and disadvantage yours.

    Replies: @Recently Based

    Agree completely.

    I also think it’s plausible (though far from certain) that in 50 years, lots of hispanics will be in what I consider to be ‘my’ ethnic group.

  • @Arclight
    Part of the delta is because while Latinos as a group may not be world beaters in terms of academic or white collar achievements, they do occupy useful positions in the labor force and are quietly respected for that so there is less cultural impetus to convince everyone that they are essential. Blacks on the other hand are a massive social and economic burden, so our betters have to come out with really outlandish stuff to try and sell the public on the idea there a millions of black diamonds in the rough out there that just need a bit more indulgence from society to really shine and take their rightful place of earned respect.

    However, this indulgence is unwinding decades of progress in reviving America's cities, paired with the shift to more remote work and less need for businesses to spend millions of dollars a year on leases on offices in the urban core. Hard times are coming for a lot of Midwest/Rust Belt cities that lack good weather and have blacks as a powerful political constituency in city government and public schools.

    Replies: @Recently Based, @Jack D, @Mark G.

    Part of the delta is because while Latinos as a group may not be world beaters in terms of academic or white collar achievements, they do occupy useful positions in the labor force and are quietly respected for that so there is less cultural impetus to convince everyone that they are essential.

    Exactly. People have eyes. Those guys out busting their asses at 7am doing construction work? The ladies cleaning up your office? The teenage guy who gives the old lady a seat on the subway? Basically everybody who works in every restaurant kitchen? They’re not speaking Swedish.

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    @Recently Based


    Those guys out busting their asses at 7am doing construction work? The ladies cleaning up your office? The teenage guy who gives the old lady a seat on the subway? Basically everybody who works in every restaurant kitchen? They’re not speaking Swedish.
     
    They're not paying taxes, either.

    Replies: @Recently Based

  • @Redneck Farmer
    @Pixo

    So, the choice is your kids are crazy if you have them young or autistic if you have them when you're older?

    Replies: @Recently Based

    I assume that the point is that they are correlated not causal. It’s not that person X is not more likely to have crazy kids if they have them younger rather than later in life, but that crazy chicks are more likely to have more kids than sane women.

  • I find the idea of making some (I guess) crazy assertion that this hispanic guy invented the flamin’ hot flavor kind of funny and charming. How can something ending with an apostrophe really be something to get too uptight about?

    Admittedly, I don’t spend a lot of time around MS-13 or bangers with neck tattoos or whatever, but my interactions with hispanic people are generally really good. They’re way more likely to give an old lady a seat on the bus, I hear a lot more Spanish than anything else spoken when I’m at the coffee shop early in the morning before work, and hispanic women still know how to feminine. It’s not like I want a bunch of Mexican immigrants in charge of NASA or something, but as immigrant groups go, they seem pretty good to me.

    • Replies: @bomag
    @Recently Based


    ...my interactions with hispanic people are generally really good.
     
    Okay, but that shouldn't generate the dynamic of giving away your own ethnic groups' resources and positions to favor them and disadvantage yours.

    Replies: @Recently Based

  • The United States Open golf championship is coming to the Los Angeles Country Club for the first time next week. So, here's a 50 year old article from Golf Digest by the great Los Angeles Times sports columnist Jim Murray on L.A. golf clubs a half century ago: Golf in Los Angeles: Part Royal and...
  • Geez, this was a great column. Astonishing tone. People carp about “mansplaining” but I could read this stuff all day. Makes me wish Jim Murray had been my dad or grandfather.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Guest1962


    Geez, this was a great column. Astonishing tone. People carp about “mansplaining” but I could read this stuff all day. Makes me wish Jim Murray had been my dad or grandfather.
     
    Compared to the "So and so puts so and so in their place with post on twitter" stuff that is now what passes for "journalism" and our "national conversation" in feminized America. High School mean girls America.

    The last few years--building on the last few decades--has been demo of both sexual dimorphism and the necessity for patriarchy to maintain civilization.

    Replies: @Alden

  • From the New York Times news section: No Shame. No Sorrow. Divorce Means It’s Party Time in Mauritania. It is common for people in this West African desert nation to divorce many times. And when they do, the women celebrate. By Ruth Maclean Photographs by Laura Boushnak Reporting from Ouadane, an ancient desert city in...
  • The NYT needs to stop putting down America!

    Our chicks are mucho grosso too: according to the CDC the average self-reported height and weight of an American woman is 5′ 4″ and 171 pounds. That’s right, a 5 weighs 170.

    Also, they’re pretty awesome at getting divorced.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Recently Based

    That’s 40 pounds overweight and 50 pounds more than normal slim.

  • Stuyvesant and the other seven (IIRC) entrance exam high schools in New York City are among the small number of prominent educational institutions in the USA that practice no affirmative action. A group of mostly Jewish rich old grads who are grateful for what getting into Stuyvesant did for them have so far blocked most...
  • @Daniel H
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    >> ....I aced the NYC HS test trifecta: I tested blind into Stuy, Bronx Sci and Brooklyn Tech.

    But were you admitted to Regis? That would really impress me.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Recently Based

    I was! Had no idea anybody even knew much about this anymore.

  • From the New York Times news section: She Said Equinox Fired Her for Being a Black Woman. A Jury Agreed. The high-end gym franchise was ordered to pay Röbynn Europe, a former employee, damages of $11.25 million. By Ginia Bellafante May 26, 2023 Between 2018 and 2019, Röbynn Europe, a former professional body builder, worked...
  • @Mark G.
    John Locke said that you need a government because if a crime is committed against someone you can't let them be judge and jury in their own case because they might be angry and can't be objective. I agree on that and am therefore a small government conservative rather than an anarchist. This only works, though, if the jury believes in equality under the law. This is largely only an Anglo belief. In most societies people favor their family, clan or ethnic group and consider it acceptable to treat outsiders unfairly in order to benefit their own group. Thus, in a non-Anglo multiracial society government turns into a curse instead of a blessing. The problem is exacerbated by the fact that our corrupt parasitic white elites stay in power with the help of nonwhite votes so support this.

    Affirmative action has especially become a drag on the economy since it has prevented the most productive workers from getting hired or promoted. I've worked for the federal government for forty years and affirmative action is especially out of control in government positions. I've seen people who can't speak English, sleep in their cubicles, steal, get drunk on the job, show up late and not show up at all not get fired because they were nonwhite. This is an elephant sitting in the room that upper management doesn't talk about openly. However, I've had a few of them tell me privately that nonwhites almost always play the race card when threatened with termination. Management has to thoroughly document all the infractions and prove they aren't firing the individual involved because they are a racist. A lot of the time, it's just easier to keep the worker.

    Replies: @Ennui, @AndrewR, @Jim Don Bob, @Diversity Heretic, @Recently Based

    A lot of the time, it’s just easier to keep the worker.

    As someone who has had to fire a lot of people, it’s always easier just to keep the worker (unless you’re a sociopath with lots of time on your hands).

    It requires the somewhat brutal dedication to making money to motivate people to bite the bullet and do it. A huge problem with any organization that isn’t itself motivated by winning is that it doesn’t force people to do this. This is not just government vs. not — successful military units in real wars they are afraid they might lose tend to do this, but “private” non-profits not so much.

  • Bill Lee, the jazz musician who scored his son Spike's first four movies, has died just short of his 95th birthday. The Lees are a Talented Tenth Atlanta family: Spike's grandma gave her son $25,000 to make his 1983 student film Joe's Bed-Stuy Barbershop: We Cut Heads, which employed Spike Lee's genius film school classmate...
  • @AnotherDad
    @Jack D


    The problem for high functioning blacks is that they want to be treated like other Americans and they resent it when they are treated with suspicion and they bitterly (and understandably) resent it when they are not, but there are a lot more real life blacks like Fan­tasy De­cuir and La­m­onte Mims, who amply warrant being treated with suspicion, than there are blacks like the Lees.
     
    Of course, most blacks are neither. Most are just ordinary people--just less bright, less disciplined, less conscientious--than whites (or Asians or Latinos for that matter).

    Resentment of being judged by a stereotype is definitely a big thing. (Another wonderful benefit of "diversity".) But stereotypes exist because they are useful. It's simply a word for "pattern recognition" which is an absolutely critical survival skill. And we all get it. For example, women--quite reasonably--react to random men with (hopefully) a full toolkit of "stereotypes" about men.

    If someone--black, Jewish, Muslim, Irish, Italian, Mexican, Indian, Chinese, Native American, what have you--is annoyed with being tagged with their group's ethnic stereotypes which they do not like, they should direct their energy at their own group and work on fixing their tribe's behavior that generates the stereotype.

    Being mad that other people are sentient humans and recognize bad behavior is about as useful as being mad at gravity. And people who insist on doing that .... well, just another stereotype.

    Replies: @Recently Based, @NotAnonymousHere, @Twinkie

    Being mad that other people are sentient humans and recognize bad behavior is about as useful as being mad at gravity.

    I was with you right up until that. The problem is that in America in 2023, it’s often extremely useful to get mad at people for using stereotypes to judge you. It’s so useful, that it’s even useful to make up stories about it.

  • The hallmark of Lees first handful of movies is that they start off strong and then just fall apart about 80% of the way through. Malcolm X was probably his most coherent movie and Washington was great – probably did deserve an Oscar for that, certainly more than Pacino in Scent of a Woman, which I think shows Pacino at his over-acting worst, similar to Heat. I did like him as Jimmy Hoffa in the Irishman, though.

    Anyway, Lee seems like one of those guys whose awareness of his own talent is what sabotages his output.

    • Agree: Recently Based
  • From the New York Times news section: Uber’s Diversity Chief Put on Leave After Complaints of Insensitivity The executive hosted sessions about race and being a white woman that were titled “Don’t Call Me Karen,” prompting an employee uproar. By Kellen Browning Kellen Browning writes about Uber and the gig economy. May 21, 2023 Uber...
  • There’s a huge inside-baseball Uber element to this (unsurprisingly).

    Travis, who’s a total wildman, created Uber. The basic approach was to enter a major metro market in a legal gray zone, because taxi and limousine regulations had never anticipated something like Uber, and then once everyone who mattered had started using Uber, dare politicians to try and force them to close. It worked. Even uber-liberal (ha ha) cities like Austin, London and Paris that tried to ban Uber after introduction eventually cracked under massive public backlash. It took somebody with his personality to be willing to execute this strategy.

    Also unsurprisingly a guy like this was a horndog who hated rules and tended to hire other senior executives who were like that. Eventually this created a bunch of PR problems as they got big enough and SV reacted to MeToo and the whole American cultural revolution, and he was forced out and a cultural revolution was forced on the company, including hiring the bulk of the characters in this story. Nikki (who you’re correct is white) was hired in from Expedia as part of this, and she brought in a bunch of people whom she had worked with previously.

    They are now living with the consequences of giving these nice HR ladies a lot of power in the company. Welcome to the Estrogen Zone. Also, don’t loo to Uber for any further innovations.

    • Thanks: res
  • In the New York Times opinion section, regular columnist Tom Edsall, a public-spirited old-timer, quietly drops some bombshells in a manner intended to bore sensitive subscribers into not noticing that Black Lives Matter has gotten more black lives murdered than saved. Of course, none of this will be novel to my readers -- I've been...
  • Steve, your headline says “NYT: Black Lives Matter Got 15 Times More Blacks Murdered Than It Saved”

    But if I’m reading the article correctly, it says that BLM got 15 times as many people (of all races combined) killed than it saved. Which is what you say in the body of your commentary: “So Black Lives Matter during the Ferguson Effect era got 15 times as many people killed as it saved. Sounds about right.”

    I’ve seen others summarize this the same way, and I think it’s an interesting psychological tic. I suspect part of it is the urge to say “Look, BLM didn’t even really help black people”. But I think the bigger part is the unwillingness to say, basically, “Policy X might be good for blacks but is definitely bad for everyone else, and that makes it a bad policy because blacks are only 13% of the population and I don’t see why everybody else should subsidize them.”

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Recently Based

    I'm not even sure that Policy X was good for black people, though. The 15:1 disparity is so large that even if a huge part of the additional lives killed by criminals due to BLM weren't black, BLM probably still wouldn't be worth it for blacks.

  • A decade ago, I correctly called that the New York Times was promoting transgenderism as the Next Big Thing after gay marriage. What's next? Pedophilia? Bestiality? Recently, I came around to thinking polygamy (although no doubt under some more euphemistic term) would be next. From the New York Times news section: I won't yet say...
  • @Muggles
    @SFG


    I used to point out to my male friends that if polygamy actually existed, it would be bad for men as one man with four wives meant three guys with no wife. I only got one guy to agree with me.
     
    A recent detailed history book on Vikings mentions this type of problem.

    One theory holds that since land owning in ancient Scandinavia was highly concentrated, land owning men often could afford multiple wives, which was culturally/religiously sanctioned.

    The theory posits that since unmarried women became very scarce for poorer males, this encouraged them to band with military sea captains and head out for raids and conquest. And bring back brides (which they did, as slaves).

    There is debate as to whether this was a major motive for 10th century Vikings to take off for the high seas. But sounds reasonable.

    In the Old West where non married females were extremely scarce, the solution was widely tolerated prostitution under whorehouse Madam control.

    Polyamory or as it used to be called, "wife swapping" is rife with problems. Child support, jealousy, murder, etc. Women, who are the ones stuck with child care, are usually very opposed to this.

    Replies: @Recently Based

    There is very humorous anthropological research in which the researcher interviewing the young males of an Amazonian tribe who still lived like this asked them about these raids, and their answer for why they did this was very close to: ‘The village elders demand cattle to let us do it, but we all go for the women.’

    In terms of female reactions to polygamy, low-status women are generally (silently) for it, as it means they get access to much higher-quality sperm and sex than they otherwise would. It’s actually higher-status women who can no longer monopolize one high-status male who become most bitter about it.

  • @PhysicistDave
    Steve, this has been going on at a low level for a very long time. Back around 1970, a teacher and a guidance counselor at my high school had an "open marriage." Ended up divorced, of course.

    Now, we are just seeing it being fully normalized.

    Guys have this fantasy that polyamory means they can sleep with a whole bunch of girls as often as they want. Of course, the reality is that the girls sleep mainly with the alpha male and the rest of the guys get left out.

    In the end, it just ends up being old-fashioned polygamy.

    Quite predictable from ev psych.

    And then you end up with a whole lot of males who have no hope of ever getting a mate.

    So, evolution tells those males to roll the dice any way they can: gang rape, murdering rivals, you name it.

    Come to think of it: haven't we already run this experiment in one particular ethnic group in this society?

    The males in your and my generation failed to go to the trouble to see to it that males in younger generations actually became men, rather than merely physically mature but emotionally and socially retarded boys. You see that with a number of the younger males (like Pixo and Jack D) who post here. You were a Boy Scout -- right? -- as I was also. Men back then went to a lot of trouble to try to turn boys into men.

    No more.

    Ev psych tells how this all turns out: we have seen the future in the ghetto Black communities. Get used to it.

    Replies: @SFG, @bomag, @American Citizen, @Herbert R. Tarlek, Jr., @kaganovitch, @Ennui, @Recently Based, @Chrisnonymous

    I was going to make more or less this comment, so fully agree.

    Males across mammal species have higher variance on many, maybe most, genetically-entangled traits (e.g., average male and female IQs are almost identical, but a high proportion of geniuses and morons are male). In a natural environment, men live in a much more winner-take-all reproductive situation than do women. About 80% of human females appear to have achieved competed reproduction over the past 10,000 years, as compared to about 40% of men. Most human males in history have likely died as virgins. That is, elite polygamy in which a small number of males have wide sexual access to women, and most males have none, is the natural state of humans. Ultimately, this is all due to the costs of pregnancy to women vs men, which is why men have higher variance and mutation rates, as one man can realistically breed a large number of women, while a woman hits hard biological limits before 20 children.

    A social norm of widespread monogamous marriage is sexual socialism among males. As the Christianity and social cohesion that make such a thing acceptable recede in the West, the pressure for this to return to its natural state is becoming irresistible. Many younger people are living in de facto polygamy now: almost 1 in 3 18 – 30 year-old men have not had sex in the past year, but high-status men are swimming in it.

    One of the things that I don’t think a lot of guys of the age (I think) of typical iSteve commenters is how massive the Red Pill is among younger men. Ever heard of Andrew Tate? At one point last year, he was literally the most googled human on planet earth. They are re-discovering the pagan way of life in a post-Christian America in which men who excel in traditionally masculine ways get to sleep with enormous numbers of hot women, and the average guy is left with scraps.

    Presumably, the legal system will eventually recognize this (very depressing) reality.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Recently Based


    Presumably, the legal system will eventually recognize this (very depressing) reality.
     
    Lol, the legal system created this very depressing reality.
  • From the New York Times magazine: I’m a Couples Therapist. Something New Is Happening in Relationships. For more and more of Orna Guralnik’s patients, the ideas behind Black Lives Matter and #MeToo are leading to breakthroughs at home. By Orna Guralnik May 16, 2023 One afternoon in 2020, early in the pandemic, I met Syl’violet...
  • This is obviously an extreme (and maybe fictional) example, but it’s just so indicative of how crappy marriage is for professional class men in America. External factors like family law and the media are stacked against you, but most significant is that men in that class have mostly internalized feminism, or really, a female-centric view of private life. What is in women’s interests is seen as being simply right.

    These can be a ton of individually trivial things: “It’s more convenient for me to leave the toilet seat down; it’s more convenient for you to leave it up.” Conclusion, “Why aren’t you considerate enough to leave the toilet seat down? It’s so irritating to have to tell you this all the time.”

    Or can be much more significant: “I want you to sign this legally binding agreement at age 32 after I’ve had a lot of fun and you were building wealth, and you need to agree to be monogamous to me now that you are at your sexual market peak, and I am no longer at mine. And, also, I can at will terminate this agreement and you must give me half of ‘our’ money that you made. And also, I don’t owe you sex. And I’m not your cook or your maid. But if you stop providing money, I will leave. And you’re an obvious dirtbag if you attempt to the negotiate any of the terms of this agreement I have put in front of you.”

    • Replies: @CalCooledge
    @Recently Based

    "Hello Mr Turkey, I want you to sign this form irrevocably endorsing Thanksgiving".

    , @Guest007
    @Recently Based

    That is why so many physicians marry other physicians. They both make a lot of money, both have debts, and both will be hurt in a divorce. What you are describing is why college educated, professional men have learned that trophy wives are not worth it.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Recently Based


    “It’s more convenient for me to leave the toilet seat down; it’s more convenient for you to leave it up.”
     
    We compromise and leave it down. My aim is true, though my wife is not Allison. If a guy can't make it clean through that hole, how's he gonna do at the shooting range?

    Huh? If it's this damn easy, maybe I should hang my shingle out as a Marriage Coach. As soon at the wife starts talking, I will hand the couple copies of Ephesians Chapter 5, a bill for the minimum charge of $200 (+ expenses), and call it a day.

    Anyway, great comment, Mr. Based. I do agree that the majority of Western men (at least) have internalized the Feminist dogma after 60 years of it. Maybe they get the equal-pay scam, proper roles and dividing of household chores and that. However, men are so blinded by this Feminism that most can't see how badly they are being screwed in the relationship from the get-go.

    And, thank you, Silent Cal Cooledge, for that turkey analogy.

    , @Twinkie
    @Recently Based


    These can be a ton of individually trivial things: “It’s more convenient for me to leave the toilet seat down; it’s more convenient for you to leave it up.” Conclusion, “Why aren’t you considerate enough to leave the toilet seat down? It’s so irritating to have to tell you this all the time.”
     
    I leave the toilet seat down after urination. Actually, we the Twinkies believe in leaving the cover down as well, because we know that the stuff inside aerosolizes a little when we flush. We don't want what's inside that bowl outside. ;)

    In return for this small consideration (and other such minor concessions), among other things, my wife never says no to me, if you get my drift. And I make all the major financial decisions as well as those concerning the children's education (though obviously I am a good dictator and seek her advice and counsel).

    So I see that as a win-win.

    On the other hand, if something goes bump in the night, she stays barricaded in the MBR (which has an reinforced door) with the kids with a shotgun pointed at it from the 90 degree angle) and I put the body armor on and deal with the intruders. Yeah, that's a downer for me, I guess, but if my kids are going to have only one parent, I'd rather that it were my wife, not me.
  • 3) Nebula Fox said it, but let me elaborate.

    Women marriage counselors will side with the woman of the couple. Her side is the only one they see, as they have no idea, and can’t have an idea, of what the whole thing is about for the man.

    Men marriage counselors will give the woman in the couple special treatment because in the back of their lizard brain sections, they figure that this marriage may not work out, and they could easily get into the woman’s pants if not.

    Women marriage counselors won’t fall for the man of the couple, because he is a loser for a) having a bad marriage which is his fault and b) being so weak that he got dragged into marriage counseling.

    Don’t ever go! (See your pastor, visit a fortune teller with a crystal ball, smoke a big bowl together, ANYTHING, but, men, don’t ever go!

    • Agree: Recently Based
    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Men marriage counselors will give the woman in the couple special treatment because in the back of their lizard brain sections,
    ==
    A fellow who used the handle 'Trey Mink' and identified himself to Helen Smith as a marriage counselor described his method thus, "I usually start the discussion with the wife because she's usually the one with the complaint".

    , @Alfa158
    @Achmed E. Newman

    These counselors either never seem to think or maybe don’t care that always taking the woman’s side might be screwing over the woman as well as the man.
    We’ve never needed counseling, but the one case I know some details of seemed to be that case.
    One of our younger relatives had moved to Silicon Valley. He is smart, ambitious, focused and was building his successful, lucrative business. He got engaged to what seems like the perfect girl. She was smart, beautiful, came from an affluent family and was working part-time helping out in the family business, and was also Jewish which was fairly important to him . He bought her a huge diamond ring but couldn’t get her to commit to a wedding date and they had some disagreements. Finally they went to a female counselor where his fiancée told the counselor that she was hesitant because he was working long hours while she was working only whatever hours she wanted to, and she wanted him to cut back and spend more time with her. Also he wanted children and she didn’t yet and therefore wouldn’t commit to having kids.
    The counselor’s advice to them was to do everything her way. Outcomes in chronological order were:
    He offered to let her keep the ring anyway.
    She was nice enough to return it.
    He found another woman, they are married with two kids so far, living in a big house with pool, tennis court etc.
    Former fiancé is still single.

    Replies: @SFG

    , @Peter Akuleyev
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Not always. My brother‘s (female) marriage counselor actually pulled him aside after a session and said „It feels like your wife is simply telling lies. She may have sociopathic tendencies.“.

    And the counselor was right of course, not that my brother listened.

    , @fish
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Good fucking advice Achmed! Been through exactly what you describe!

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  • @AnotherDad
    @Ghost of Bull Moose


    Syl’violet flunks the marshmallow test. Slushy test, whatever.
     
    Spot on.

    Matthew's friends should be telling him "run like hell, bro!" Otherwise in a decade his slushy queen with be divorce raping away half his doctors' salary that he's working hard to create ... if she doesn't kill him by rolling over in bed.


    Steve--being quite gentlemanly--is being solicitous of this young woman's interests and offering her really good advice:


    Rather than validate Syl’violet’s resentment of Matthew’s “privilege,” the therapist should take her aside and explain to her that she made a heck of a catch in this guy and she’d better work harder on losing her underclass tendencies so that she can make a good wife of a doctor.
     
    that unfortunately young women are not getting today. This idea that women are some sort of virtuous oppressed minority like Jews and blacks, who must be endless catered to and never an unkind word said about ... is political magic for the Democrats, but supremely unhelpful to actual young women.

    In reality women what women are selling in the mating market is sex and motherhood and a dose of lifetime companionship. They ought to be thinking "I need to appear like i'll be a great life companion, with the genes and character traits to be a great mom." And have the realization that the main thing they are selling peaks at about age 19 and then declines .... while what the guy is selling--skills that generate earning power--peaks somewhere more like 40-55.


    And young men need to realize that young women are not hearing this sort of common sense, and take heed of any of the huge number of signs that a young woman is unfit of character to be the mother of his children
    -- can't put down her phone
    -- debt
    -- tats, piercings, weird color hair
    -- leftist politics
    -- political virtue signaling
    -- overweight
    -- drama
    -- spendthrift
    -- notches on bedpost

    Even with pretty good "signals" the divorce industry means the guy is making a huge leap of faith with his lifetime earnings. Suicidal to jump when you can already see some rocks.

    Matt, dude, cut the slushy queen loose!

    Replies: @Recently Based, @Twinkie, @SFG

    Agree. The difference for Matt in divorcing her now vs. a few years from now is likely to be millions of dollars.

    Plus he’s approaching his peak sexual market value years (more like 35 than 45, all things considered, and especially for a doctor whose future earnings potential is more obvious than for someone in a riskier career), so he has better prospects of ending up with a better woman if he does it now.

    The fact that he so underestimates his market value is what makes the story seem unbelievable (though apparently he has actually found himself in this position).

  • @Art Deco
    @Brutusale

    It says a lot that Elizabeth Gilbert, the Eat, Pray, Love author, went from husband to dusky foreign pool boy to lesbian in 10 years time.
    ==
    She disposed of a husband (the father of her children) who earns a satisfactory living as an attorney, does pro bono work, and has a full head of hair. She did so in favor of a Brazilian national who was bald, shorter than she was, and in need of a green card. Gilbert was frequently a figure of fun among Mr. Dalrock's commenters. One pointed out that in contrast to most divorcées, she had a realistic sense of what her prospects were. Now recall what Susan Sontag said about her own lesbian turn: "I turned 40 and was just getting better offers from women than from men". Gilbert is 53.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Brutusale

    Now recall what Susan Sontag said about her own lesbian turn: “I turned 40 and was just getting better offers from women than from men”.

    Now, ponder on this: would any man in similar situation turn gay because of “better offers”?

    Nuff’ said.

    • Agree: Recently Based
    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Now, ponder on this: would any man in similar situation turn gay because of “better offers”?
    ==
    Bisexual man after a disagreeable divorce.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @SFG

    , @Gary in Gramercy
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Shorter Sontag: "I'll join 'em, but first I'm gonna lick 'em."

  • @Tiny Duck
    @Redneck Farmer

    He probably gets more white girls than you could ever dream of.

    There is no way this story is real. Matthew would marry a white girl

    Replies: @Recently Based, @Guest007, @Stan Adams, @Tex

    Amazingly, I pretty much agree with TD!

    If hasn’t figured that out already (and if these two aren’t fictional), he will pretty quickly. What this goes to is actually — and here I expect we will disagree, sadly — is one reason why so many black women are not taken seriously by guys with choices.

    • Replies: @Jehu
    @Recently Based

    Yeah this is pretty shocking, for TD to accidentally say something reasonably accurate.

    Over the years a couple of things have been made very clear to me:

    Black women really really hate it when a functional black man marries a white woman.

    Such unions happen a fair bit because a functional relatively nice-guy black man gets treated way better by white women than he does by black ones.

  • From the New York Times opinion section: Fear of a Black Cleopatra May 10, 2023 A photo illustration of a Black woman’s face, with an illustration of a white woman superimposed on it as a headdress, along with Egyptian symbols.= By Gwen Nally and Mary Hamil Gilbert Dr. Nally is an associate professor of philosophy...
  • Dude, make the change to Python. (Come over to the Dark Side.)

  • When the Roman poet Propertius famously called Cleopatra a whore queen (meretrix regina), he laced his misogynist tirade with allusions to Egypt, such as the “noxious” city of Alexandria and the “yapping” Egyptian god Anubis.

    Not to be the one not getting the joke that their whole argument is nonsense, but how does this support the idea that Cleopatra was black (sorry, ‘culturally Black’)?

    In the late 1st century good Romans like Propertius (he was born to to a noble family in modern-day Umbria, Italy), saw the city of Alexandria as wealthy, decadent and non-masculine — it had nothing to do with black. And Anubis is a god with a canine head, which presumably explains the ‘yapping’ thing.

  • Statistically, NYC still isn't all that dangerous. But because the point of NYC is to take public transportation, even a small amount of chaos on the sidewalks and in transit imposes huge psychological stresses on innocent commuters compared to cities where everybody commutes in locked Ford F-150s. But making commuting in NYC more civilized doesn't...
  • @Corvinus
    @Peterike

    “So what if we took those 327 people and, oh I dunno, shot them? That’s what I would do.”

    You can say that as a commenter on this fine opinion webzine, but do you have the stones to actually do it? Maybe. But that would mean you are psychotic and a fan of totalitarianism.

    But if you’re so hell bent on shooting them, why not form a vigilante committee and patrol the streets? Channel your inner Kyle. You have justice on your side, correct? And Mr. Sailer is totally on board with your course of action, right? Why not pay him some coin to join you and your squad? He needs 🐶 🍱 to buy, you know.

    Replies: @Recently Based, @Jack D, @New Dealer, @rebel yell, @George, @JimDandy, @JimDandy, @Peterike

    But that would mean you are psychotic and a fan of totalitarianism.

    So, favoring the death penalty for someone who is arrested ~20 times for stealing (which presumably means that they committed many, many times that number of thefts and other felonies) makes someone psychotic? Not misinformed or of poor judgment, but psychotic?

    Or is it that the person advocating this policy doesn’t want to personally shoot all of these people, when there is no proposal that one person in favor of such a policy would personally execute all of them? By that logic, if you favor providing weapons to Ukraine, are you personally willing to go throw explosives on 100,000 Russian draftees, killing 20,000 and severely wounding 80,000 of them? To quote you, do you have the stones? Are you a psychotic?

    Or if you don’t favor that specific use of military action are you an absolute pacifist? In that case, are you willing to kill and rape millions of women and children who will be killed when an adversary army decides to invade, because that is you would be willing into existence?

    Public policy involves making difficult trade-offs in which there is tragedy no matter policy is followed.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Recently Based

    “So, favoring the death penalty for someone who is arrested ~20 times for stealing (which presumably means that they committed many, many times that number of thefts and other felonies) makes someone psychotic? Not misinformed or of poor judgment, but psychotic?”

    He simply said round then up and shoot them. Never once gave the caveat that we should pass legislation in which a person say is convicted a dozen times of misdemeanor petty theft, or convicted six times of felony theft, would face the death penalty.

    Would that even pass constitutional muster? Why don’t you make this proposal by way of initiative. Get it on the ballot in your state. What are you waiting for?

    “Or is it that the person advocating this policy doesn’t want to personally shoot all of these people”

    “That’s what I would do.” Those were his exact words. So, yes, he personally would see to it. How about yourself? Up to shooting thieves?

    Replies: @Ennui

  • @Jack D
    @Peterike

    It's not amazing. It's a consequence of smart people naturally wanting to be intellectually consistent. So you take a value like "personal autonomy" or "liberty" and rather than drawing common sense lines on it, you have to follow the concept to the bitter and logical end.

    We see this here, for example, when people talk about their 2A rights. If the government draws ANY line, that means that you have embarked on a slippery slope which starts with the gov taking away your 50 cal. machine gun and ends with them taking away your kitchen knives. The right must be ABSOLUTE or it doesn't exist at all.

    So, if the gov. locks up people who are as crazy as loons but who (supposedly) do not pose an immediate threat to themselves or others, what is to prevent them from locking YOU up someday? Etc.

    So you end up with real world results that are intellectually consistent but objectively create chaos. Is the real world chaos worth the cost of protecting our hypothetical individual rights? The defenders of these rights think so, at least when it comes to their pet cause. What are a few mass shootings, compared to protecting us from tyranny? What are a few crazy homeless people on the subway, compared to the government locking us all up? Etc. In order to protect fundamental rights, you cannot allow the government to engage in common sense line drawing because there are unscrupulous people on the other side who will abuse the line drawing right and take it from edge cases to cutting right thru the middle of your (favorite) basic freedoms.

    Replies: @res, @Rich, @Mr. Anon, @Recently Based, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @ben tillman, @Ennui, @Jonathan Mason

    We see this here, for example, when people talk about their 2A rights. If the government draws ANY line, that means that you have embarked on a slippery slope which starts with the gov taking away your 50 cal. machine gun and ends with them taking away your kitchen knives. The right must be ABSOLUTE or it doesn’t exist at all.

    I’ve used guns a decent amount and they don’t have some kind of mystical power one way or the other for me, but I don’t currently own one and agree with the basic idea that the way handguns on the island of Manhattan ought to be regulated ideally wouldn’t be the same for hunting rifles in rural Kentucky.

    But the problem with your argument is the exact sequence of “start with scary rifles ought to be registered” and end with “make private gun ownership effectively illegal” is (i) the stated strategy of the people proposing these laws, and (ii) what has actually been accomplished in the other anglophone democracies. I think the gun people are rational in holding this trepidation.

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @Recently Based


    But the problem with your argument is the exact sequence of “start with scary rifles ought to be registered” and end with “make private gun ownership effectively illegal” is (i) the stated strategy of the people proposing these laws, and (ii) what has actually been accomplished in the other anglophone democracies.
     
    And in certain polities in the US, which just so happen to include NYC, although about eight states generally ban concealed carry, especially in big cities.

    For NYC, out of a total of 8.5 million estimated (went down after COVID and the 2020 summer of love) ~60K each manage to get licenses for handguns and long guns. Trump, sure, an unconnected not wealthy peasant, no way. The end result of gun control starting in 1911 when Tammany Hall Irish gangsters were feeling the heat from newer outside the Hajnal line immigrants from eastern and southern Europe. (That statistic based on my personally counting the lists when they were published by a newspaper.)

    So we know where this goes even without reference to other Anglophone "democracies," and that plus our unique gun culture forged in violence which is still with us today is why come September a total of 27 states will have Constitutional Carry, no permit required, covering ~44% of the population. And a continued decrease for the most part of gun control in our non-modern slave states like New York. All the really major loosenings except for Illinois accomplished without recourse to the Federal courts prior to Bruen, and most without state court intervention.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @slumber_j

  • Hundreds of thousands of families are fascinated and/or downright obsessed with who is admitted to the more prestigious University of California public colleges, such as UCLA and Berkeley. Yet, the mainstream media has done very little reporting on the radical changes in who gets in at some of the top six campuses due to the...
  • @Hypnotoad666
    @Nicholas Stix



    In truth, colleges don’t put all that much weight on Advanced Placement _test scores_ rather than in simply taking an AP _class_. UCs traditionally boost GPA by 1.0 points in AP classes, so an A counts as a 5.0 on your 0-4 scale GPA … even if you flunk the AP test with a 1.”
     
    That’s horrible, Steve, and sounds like some longtime institutionalized, stealth affirmative action.
     
    The lack of influence given to actual AP Test scores is probably due to a more pedestrian reason: students normally take AP tests in their senior year and those scores come back over the summer, way too late to be considered in the admission process.

    Replies: @Recently Based

    Very likely true, but in the (vastly better, IMHO, for reasons I went into in a longer comment on this thread) college admissions systems in other advanced countries, college admissions offers are typically conditional on achieving specified scores on leaving exams such as A-Levels, the Bac or the IB.

  • If you really hate the SAT/ACT because of all the Tiger Mothers sending their Tiger Cubs to endless test prep, well, have the kids test prep on something intrinsically good to know like chemistry or history.

    The thing is, this is how college admissions works in other civilized countries. Graduating students take leaving exams (A-Levels in the UK, the Bac in France, the IB in lots of countries, including the US for some students) at the end of senior year. These are serious exams that are deep in subjects (math, physics, philosophy, economics, literature, Latin, etc., depending on what courses you took in high school). Really elite schools like Cambridge, Oxford or Sciences Po will also do in-person interviews between applicants and academics in their field of study. These are not “tell me about yourself” interviews, but “Here’s an interesting intellectual problem in my field — let’s discuss how you would approach it.’”

    When you apply to college, your school submits “predicted grades” on the leaving exams and typically you write one personal statement about what you want to study and why and get recommendations from teachers. And certain schools will do substantive interviews. That’s it. Nobody gives a crap that you were the captain of your tennis team, that you built houses in Honduras one summer or what grade you got in freshman chemistry. And your admission offer is usually “conditional” on achieving close to your predicted grades on the leaving exams. Second-semester senior year is usually the most intense time at a good international high school.

    These other systems have problems, such as growing issues with AA (or as they put it more directly, “positive discrimination”), but when you see this in operation, you realize what a total kludge American elite college admissions have become to basically engineer a targeted demographic allocation of seats without coming out and saying it. One huge negative side-effect of the American approach is that it puts enormous power in the hands of college admissions officers (who are usually a combination of HR ladies and whomever were the least-employable recent graduates of the college in question). They use this to create the stifling ideological conformity you see in US elite colleges. Ironically, a system which is more-or-less “prove your the best chemistry/classics/economics/what student” ends up selecting not just people more able in their fields, but also a much more cognitively diverse and interesting group of people than “holistic admissions”.

    • Agree: Peter Johnson
    • Thanks: Prester John
  • @Corvinus
    “the mainstream media has done very little reporting on the radical changes in who gets in at some of the top six campuses”

    And now Mr. Sailer is not being accurate here. A cursory Google search shows several articles in the past couple of years that discuss changes, including the LA Times.

    https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-08-10/uc-admits-record-number-of-california-first-year-students-narrows-entry-to-nonresidents

    https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-02-24/uc-applications-slow-down-for-fall-2023-with-drop-in-out-of-state-students

    https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-09-22/uc-admissions-to-offer-second-change-to-rejected-students

    https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-04-12/covid-college-admissions-season-brings-rejection-heartbreak

    Replies: @Daniel Williams, @Recently Based, @John Rohan

    Note zero coverage of the changes that are being discussed in this post on the four articles over three years.

    • Disagree: Corvinus
  • From Intelligence: This is the first time this kind of table has been published in several decades. I believe Linda Gottfredson published one in the 20th Century. If I recall correctly, that one too seemed pretty reasonable in terms of rank-ordering, but also, as you see here, with more compression of IQ range than you'd...
  • @anonymous
    Jeff Bezos' grandfather ran Los Alamos, and was U.S. Atomic Energy Commission director for all of the western United States. Before that job he worked for DARPA and on space technology and missile defense ... he enabled the funding connections, internet tech components and government links that made Bezos who he is.

    Jeff Bezos born 12 Jan 1964 as Jeffrey Preston Jorgensen, his mom age 17, his parents quickly divorcing, his mom later marrying Miguel Bezos, a Cuban exile brought into the USA as a teen-ager under 1960-62 'Operation Pedro Pan', Miguel adopted Jeff at age 4, Miguel becoming an Exxon petroleum engineer.

    Jeff Bezos’ maternal grandfather, Lawrence Preston Gise, was a US Navy Lt Commander, who began working for the US Atomic Energy Commission in 1949. Gise also worked for the Pentagon's DARPA and finally Regional Director at the USA Atomic Energy Commission, supervising 26,000 nuclear employees at Los Alamos, Sandia & Lawrence Livermore. What was first ARPA then DARPA - Defence Advanced Projects Research Agency - essentially developed the foundation of the internet.

    Jeff visited his grandfather’s Texas ranch every summer from age four to sixteen. Jeff said it was at age 10 he learned Miguel was not his father.

    Gise was a creature of government, specifically of the military-industrial complex, in numerous projects, some of them covert. Gise helped raise his grandson, Jeff Bezos received full attention, tutored and moulded for a life of privilege and ambition. Bezos inherited social connections, access to private and public funding, and open doors into government.

    Bezos didn’t invent Amazon out of thin air. Amazon is a late product of the Cold War mindset, a distributed system built on the internet which itself was built on DARPA’s ARPANET.
     
    https://benjamindavidsteele.wordpress.com/tag/lawrence-preston-gise/

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Recently Based, @BB753, @Anon, @mc23, @Robert Morgan

    I’m guessing that you’ve never built a sizable company from scratch.