@PubliusMN

Nope. No airplane hit the Pentagon. The non-faked video evidence and eye-witness evidence is clear.
 

Speaking of eyewitness evidence, how do you explain all the accounts listed on this webpage:

Below are excerpts from Pentagon eyewitness accounts. The highlighted accounts include a link to a page which contains an unsolicited phone call from Jeffrey Hill to the eyewitness in which he asks what they saw on 9/11. These people do not talk about hypotheticals based on the size of the hole in the Pentagon or the lack of aircraft debris, they relate what they saw on 9/11.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/911_pentagon_eyewitnesses.html
 

Replies: @NoseytheDuke, @PubliusMN

Why not call for an independent inquiry on the basis of the hard evidence that was presented in a 4 part series by Carl Cameron of Fox News and the video of the Dancing Israelis
 

well Geo, perhaps because the "Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It's classified information."

that could be a hurdle right there

some shill asked for an alternative theory, I'll offer this

when Jewish international banksters took over control of the US Treasury in 1913, they took over control of our economy and, with that swindled wealth; the levers of power in our society. So much so that they were able to make a deal with England to hand over Palestine to Jewish Zionists in return for dragging America into world war I on England's behalf.

But it took these Jewish Zionists and banksters the destruction of Europe and Russia and Germany in particular into smoking ashes before they were able to realize their dream of an imposed Israel in the Middle East.

Since Israel's inception, the US has been Israel's vassal, due to the power that control of America's money supply has given these Zionist/Jewish banksters. But it wasn't total power. The politicians and media were in their pocket, and would do their will without blinking, but they still weren't able to simply order the US government and military to destroy any and all of Israel's rivals in the region because the American people were the inconvenient obstacle- being as they were expected to provide the blood and treasure that was to be spilled and spent on these adventures. So, they needed a pretext to get the American people willing to bankrupt their nation and send their young men and women into the meat grinder for Israel. That pretext was 911.

It was a bold plan, and it was orchestrated at the highest levels of the US and Israeli (and British and French and many other governments and media), all of which are a fully owned subsidiary of the Federal Reserve Banking cartel.

As soon as the buildings fell, they were scrambling to blame it all on Israeli's rivals- like Saddam's Iraq, and the US dutifully went around like a mindless, mass-murdering goon (golem) and crushed Israel's rivals one by one. All the belligerent talk of WMD was all lies, just as everything they said about 911 was all lies, but the sheeple are too busy trying to survive to pay attention to all of this, and the governments and militaries and media are all bought, owned and controlled.

That's where we're at.

Anyone with an IQ above room temperature knows we were all lied to on that day, and since. But very few care. JR is one of the few people who cares that our country (and indeed the entire foundations and pillars of Western Civilization) was attacked in the most cowardly and treacherous way imaginable, and that the criminals have been profiting from their crime ever since, even now so many years later- because of the level of near total control that these fiends have over our society. And because what they did was an act of such pure, calculated evil, that they knew and counted on the fact that few people could even comprehend this level of evil (if evil exists at all, then the men who did this certainly qualify)

Sorting out the details of exactly how they managed to make steel vaporize or whether or not is was a passenger jet that hit the Pentagon or a missile, is just academic. The main point is that they lied and we all know they lied. That's why the evidence linking the Israelis to the attack has been classified, just like all the other evidence (like the 'black boxes', [flight data recorders]) that were either immediately destroyed or shipped off to China to be melted down.

Who has the power to order the destruction of the evidence of most heinous crime ever committed on US soil?

But more importantly, who benefits?

Did Afghanistan benefit?

Did Iraq?

Did the American people?

or was it Israel?

The same Israel that America entered into WWI to help create. The same Israel that was founded upon the ashes of Germany (and so many other tens of millions lives) right on the heels of WWII. The same Israel that's been extorting untold billions upon billions of dollars straight out of the US (and German) Treasury ever since its nefarious inception.

911 was just another demonic catastrophe visited upon the West and Middle East by these Jewish banksters and Zionists and assorted perfidious politicians and media scum in order to bolster the fortunes of Israel and the execrable politicians like Dick Cheney and Tony Blair who betray their people and their counties for the moral equivalent of thirty shekels.

That's how I see it anyways. ;)

And now they want us to finish the job for them in Syria so Israel can steal the Golan Heights, put Putin on ice, and then destroy Iran for them too. Actually they were hoping we would have already destroyed Iran for them by now. But again, the American people have balked at losing so much, their young people snuffing it in droves as they return from the war crimes they've been forced to commit on so many innocent people. All on Israel's behalf.

Who here can't see that? I mean honestly, is there anyone here that can't see all of this as obvious?

Our leaders jump to their feet as the most contemptible Nazi-type racist monster and notorious war criminal on the world's stage lectures them from inside their own house. It isn't Bibi's charm or his 'statesmanship' that causes that to happen. Hardly. That is the power of the Fed. But it only goes so far, alas, and you can only buy so many politicians with the lucre you extort from the American people. Soon I fear, another false flag is in the works, if they're going to be able to use up every last drop of American blood and treasure to foist Israel's wildest fantasies of old Testament blood lust, then something's going to have to happen.

(why couldn't I stop at the smiley winkey face, why must I always rant? It's cathartic I suppose ; )

Replies: @alexander, @PubliusMN

In addition to the 11 if/then statements, perhaps you could also address this little dilemma:

The Twin Towers weren't conventional demolitions. They were "top down" demolitions, which are rare in the professional demolition industry. This was achieved by strategically planting and detonating explosives beneath each tower's predetermined impact zone. This was done to create the illusion that airliner impacts caused the towers to fall.

Building 7 was a classic demolition job -- bottom up -- the type of demolition that Danny Jowenko is qualified to give his professional opinion on.
 

I think the record is clear that you think that all 3 bldgs were brought down by CD on 9/11, right? Given that 3 out of the 4 airplanes struck their intended targets, most assume the intended target of flight 93 was bldg 7. I think Rurik is on record suggesting so. So here's my question: why would the planners use a top-down approach with the Twin Towers so as to not make it appear that it was a CD, but use a bottom-up approach with bldg 7, which would give things away? I mean why didn't they strategically plant and detonate the explosives beneath this bldg's predetermined impact zone. An speaking of impact zones, how did the planners know which floors the airplanes would impact? And if they could know this information, I guess this implies that they expected flight 93 to hit the first few floors of bldg 7, a very challenging endeavor given Manhattan's skyline.

Hey, but I guess all this is just meaningless inquiry, better ban these types of comments so you can continue having a more " serious, interesting conversation."

Replies: @NoseytheDuke, @Jonathan Revusky, @PubliusMN

@Jonathan Revusky

Theory A, a.k.a. the theory that the orange actually is an orange, is that WTC7 was a controlled demolition. (I thought everybody knew that…)
 

That is not a theory which even begins to explain 9/11. I do believe you admit that later though.

But, in any case, the alternative theory to “blowback”, theory A, is that these are Deep State false flag operations. That is what 9/11, 7/7, and these recent events in Paris and Brussels pretty much certainly are.
 

Try proposing that theory. You will not be able to as it is absurd. You can neither explain the mechanism nor the motive for it.

First of all, your basic argumentation is fallacious. My rejecting a given theory as false does not imply any obligation on my part to provide an alternative theory
 

This is pure sophism and it ends up in the solipsistic dead-end of 'I can only know myself.' All theories are imperfect therefore if perfection is your standard you will have no theories on anything, which means you believe nothing. That is stupid. To live in this world you have to pick the best fitting theory and the normal account of 9/11 is precisely that.

Replies: @PubliusMN

Oh god thank you, incredible synchronicity, I just today was having lunch with two family members who are stuck in the Matrix- two HIQIs to be sure- and it was incredibly, incredibly frustrating trying to explain myself and how differently I view the world, media, and politics. I did literally bang my head in the table at one point. Needless to say, instead of trying to dig up a series of articles for reading, I have everything I need right here. Great piece. Thank you, just saved me many hours. Literally. Feel just like the author. For me, the LPM came right after the Boston Bombing, watching Sibel Edmonds and James Corbett do the Gladio B series of interviews and the ensuing rabbit hole I went down and from which I apparently will never emerge.

Replies: @PubliusMN