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    From Politico: How Does a Straight White Male Democrat Run for President? Very carefully. By BILL SCHER February 17, 2019 Of the nine candidates officially running in the Democratic presidential primary, only one is a heterosexual white man. And that guy, former Rep. John Delaney, generally polls somewhere between zero and 1 percent. But of...
  • @Reg Cæsar
    @Moses


    Who’s kidding who. The coalition of the margins/fringes Dems never again will nominate a hetero White man for President.
     
    Don't kid yourself. Jared Taylor said pretty much the same thing about California's governorship two decades ago.

    Didn't happen. They just got worse and worse whites.

    Replies: @Moses, @Jefferson, @Lummard

    I think things are going to change in this election, though. Politics isn’t just about getting votes, but getting sponsors, and Kamala Harris seems to be the darling of the Democratic donors.

    I suspect that a lot of the enthusiasm for “diversity” in the Democratic establishment isn’t just a way to motivate minority voters, but also a ploy to diminish the appeal of the mostly white anti-establishment candidates (mainly Sanders and Warren).

    Harris seems the best of both worlds. She’s Diverse enough to appeal to the minority voters and centrist/establishment enough to appeal to the donors, while also not being as deeply unpopular with the Sanders/Warren left as Clinton was.

    I can see Harris running on a platform of Diversity and Moderate Leftism, like Obama but with more focus on the Tragedy of Racism and Hatred, Open Borders (in a way that pleases corporate Democratic donors) and maybe a whiff of promises about law enforcement reforms and some vague economic center-left points.

    Warren will be an easy target because of her Indian shenanigans. Sanders will be tougher to smear, although he can always be #MeToo-ed if it’s convenient.

    I can’t see Biden actually winning the nomination, unless Harris accepts to be his running mate.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Lummard


    Harris seems the best of both worlds. She’s Diverse enough to appeal to the minority voters...

    Warren will be an easy target because of her Indian shenanigans.
     

    Harris vs Warren would be a most entertaining finish to primary season.


    Dot vs Feather.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    , @Mr McKenna
    @Lummard


    Harris seems the best of both worlds. She’s Diverse enough to appeal to the minority voters and centrist/establishment enough to appeal to the donors
     
    Even better, she's dim-witted enough to be easily controlled.
  • In the state of the union address, president Trump rejected calls for the US to adopt socialism (never mind all the socialism that had been proposed and celebrated during the preceding hour!). The term "socialism" is one he had, up to that point, studiously avoided using since commending his campaign in the summer of 2015....
  • Socialism is all about transferring money from those who are seen as “oppressors” to the “oppressed”, and that’s based on who earns more than whom. Beyond its complex academic justifications, socialism in practice is really easy to understand: you’re richer than me, so I deserve your money.

    The 20th century versions of socialism were all about transferring money from the “capitalist classes” to the “proletariat”. Ultimately it didn’t work out, because the economy isn’t just a matter of transferring money from A to B in a zero-sum game. Instead capitalism raised the quality of life across all social and economic classes, and that’s why it won.

    (Yes, of course, I’m simplifying things a lot, but I don’t think I need to go through the specifics).

    Socialism is always attractive to relatively poorer people, though. Even if you have a fridge full of food, a roof over your head, a TV, decent health, a cell phone, decent clothes, and even a car, there’s ALWAYS going to be someone richer than you, who has an easier life than you.

    And of course some people are going to have food insecurity, or crappy cars, or shitty houses, even in rich countries.

    Whites in the US are richer, at least on a statistical level, than Blacks and Hispanics. The 21st century version of socialism (now based on identity rather than class, for a lot of reasons I won’t go into) tells them that this is because whites are “the oppressors” and they are “oppressed”, so it’s only fair that they get what the whites have.

    College students are also struggling with student debt, especially if they graduated in useless subjects that don’t allow them to get good jobs. So they’re also pretty easy to convince that they are being “oppressed” by people who have less money issues than them.

    Asians and Jews vote more for Democrats in the United States (because of the implicit “white” nature of the Republican Party), but since they make more money than Blacks or Hispanics they’re not so keen about socialism, unless they’re college students burdened by student debt.

    As a Republican with Libertarian tendencies who also cares about the European identity of the United States, I think that the shift to the left of the Democratic Party is both inevitable and welcome: it makes the choice much more clear.

    As the United States get “browner” they’ll also get “redder”. White people will have to wonder whether they like giving their money to Blacks and Hispanics or not. No more middle ground.

    Hell, it’s even possible than Asians and Jews might vote less Democratic if it’ll become clear that they won’t be spared by the “reparations”.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    @Lummard

    I wonder what effect social media has on amplifying those feelings of insecurity about not being able to measure up. Surely hasn't helped.

    Replies: @Mr McKenna

  • Why male Democrats identify more strongly with the DSA than female Democrats do is a head-scratcher, though.

    Not really.

    The majority of Democratic women are still white women, and many of them have college degrees and/or are single and/or childless. The DSA platform doesn’t do much for them.

    They can get what they want (preservation and extension of abortion rights, generous benefits after a divorce, “Believe the Women” standards for reports of sexual misconduct, etc.) from the “normal” Democrats.

    The majority of Democratic men, however, are not white, and the “redistribution” part of the DSA program is very appealing for them.

    Your second graph confirms this. Blacks and Hispanics see the DSA more favorably than Jews, Whites or Asians. It’s about “gibsmedat”.

  • From the Washington Post: As police struggle to solve homicides, Baltimore residents see an ‘open season for killing’ By Wesley Lowery, Steven Rich and Salwan Georges December 27 ... As Baltimore has seen a stunning surge of violence, with nearly a killing each day for the past three years in a city of 600,000, homicide...
  • @Art Deco
    @Patricus

    Is there a black majority city anywhere on earth that isn’t a violent shithole?

    Yes. The French Caribbean's congenial, as are some Anglo-Caribbean islands. There's been a great deal of success at restoring order in some loci where you had interested political leadership (e.g. East Orange, NJ; DC isn't safe, but it's a great deal safer than it once was). Most of Prince George's County, Md. is satisfactory. About 47% of the blacks in greater Baltimore live in suburban tracts. These places are agreeable enough. There are satisfactory black-majority suburbs around Detroit.

    Replies: @Lummard, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Johnny Smoggins

    The majority of French and Anglo Carribbean are still very much violent when compared to non-majority black areas. Guadeloupe, one of the richest of the big majority-black Caribbean islands, still has a murder rate of 8.01 per 100,000 inhabitants, while the world rate is of 6.2, and the rate in the US is 5.35.

    The Turk and Caicos Islands, Martinique, and Aruba fare much better, with murder rates respectively of 5.93, 2.78, and 1.93. Martinique and Aruba seem to be especially nice, with murder rates comparable, respectively, to Albania and Belgium.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate#By_region

    However people in Martinique and Aruba seem to be very mixed in origin, so it’s not clear whether they’re actually majority black. In Aruba 75% of the population is believed to be of mixed European/African/Amerindian heritage, and only 15% black. Among the “mixed” part of the population the predominant origin seem to be Caquetio Indians and Dutch, with African heritage playing a relatively lesser role, along with other European admixtures.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Aruba

  • From the New York Times Opinion Page: Nobody is in favor
  • Michelle Alexander is a racial agit-prop writer, who argues that disparity of incarceration rates are the new version of slavery and segregation, and we won’t ever be truly equal unless races are incarcerated at equal rates.

    • Replies: @James N. Kennett
    @Lummard


    Michelle Alexander is a racial agit-prop writer, who argues that disparity of incarceration rates are the new version of slavery and segregation, and we won’t ever be truly equal unless races are incarcerated at equal rates.
     
    Disparate impact means that the War on Drugs is really a war on blacks, and therefore must be stopped. By the same measure, the war on "deadbeat dads" is also a war on blacks, yet the NYT will not be calling for it to end. Because Intersectional Pokemon Points, or something.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    , @JimB
    @Lummard


    Michelle Alexander is a racial agit-prop writer, who argues that disparity of incarceration rates are the new version of slavery and segregation, and we won’t ever be truly equal unless races are incarcerated at equal rates.
     
    How about a pilot project? Release non-white felons into society and every time one breaks the law, make a white liberal left wing sponsor pay the fine, serve the jail sentence, or go to the death chamber.
  • From The Guardian: It's interesting how stereotypes about violent crime seem to be the same from London to Ferguson to Melbourne to Rio. Occam's Butterknife suggests that is due to a vast conspiracy. What does Occam's Razor suggest?
  • It’s easy to understand for anyone who’s not a blinkered ideologue that different races simply have different attitudes to crime. No matter how much the Blank Slaters whine about “white supremacy”, black people always turn out to commit much more violent crimes per capita than Europeans or East Asians or Jews in all multiracial environments, from New York to London to Brasilia to Melbourne.

    Hell, even in Japan the few black people there commit a disproportionate amount of crimes.

    Indeed this is such an easy thing to notice that Singapore has more or less informally restricted the residency permits to all people of African descent to keep crime under control.

    Levels of income and cultural differences don’t explain away the differences, so you’re either left with a worldwide conspiracy to keep the black people down, or with the unspeakable, unthinkable, Evil with a capital E hypothesis that different races differ on their average propensity to crime because of biological reasons.

    But that’s, of course, insane Nazism.

  • We're coming up to nationwide elections just as elite hatred of white people—including of course by Goodwhiteethnomasochists—is reaching a new level of intensity. Just in the past few weeks: Korean-born Sarah Jeong is now happily working away as a member of the New York Times editorial board. Sample quote from her: "Are white people genetically...
  • Black men are the biggest crime threat. How do you like them Lemons?

  • From the New York Times: Also, let me offer a belated congrats to our own iSteve commenter Whiskey on his new job as Editor-in-Chief of the New York Times.
  • “I didn’t risk my skin back then to become a third-class citizen,” said Mr. Dehmel, now 57, counting off the perceived hierarchy on his fingers: “First there are western Germans, then there are asylum seekers, then it’s us.”

    In the end this is what it’s all about. Rich, worldly, educated elites set up a system that rewards rich, worldly, educated elites. Then they find immigrants to import for cheap labor. The old native working class is left behind, and rich elites do absolutely nothing for them, instead telling them to go eat cakes/”learn to code”. The old working class realize that they’re getting shafted, and rightly blame the rich elites and the cheap labor immigrants.

    Cheap labor immigrants are overwhelmingly male and young, and also unruly, violent, often criminal, so clashes happen. The rich elites call the old native working class evil and racist. Eventually a party which represents the old working class emerges, and it’s also called evil and racist.

    This is the pattern pretty much everywhere in Europe. In the US this is slightly different, because there’s a black benefit class that is coddled by the rich elite to atone for previous racism, which doesn’t see immigrants as a threat because they’re too busy hating on “wypipo”. But the dynamic is the same for the white working class.

    What’s funny is that the educated, worldly, rich elite often produces over-educated morons who think that they’re the real “working people” and “socialists” because their degrees in uselessness lead them to a life of Starbucks work, and who think that bringing in more cheap labor for the rich elites to use is also “socialism”.

    For all the ranting and raving about “capitalism” on the left, they’re often the ones who are on the side of the rich elites and the big corporations.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    @Lummard

    When does the new party of the working class transition to becoming the party of "tax the rich"? Loyalty is only being shown one way at the moment.

    , @Paleo Liberal
    @Lummard

    Only someone who doesn’t know any working class blacks would think working class blacks are in favor of mass immigration of Latin Americans.

    Try talking to some working class blacks about illegal aliens sometimes. Or if that is too difficult, try reading polls on what working class blacks actually think.

    Hint: American working class blacks are wise enough to know that illegal aliens are being imported to take their jobs at lower pay. I’m old enough to remember when maids and the guys at the car wash were black.

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    , @Ben tillman
    @Lummard

    The immigrants to Germany don’t labor.

    , @Henry's Cat
    @Lummard


    In the end this is what it’s all about. Rich, worldly, educated elites set up a system that rewards rich, worldly, educated elites.
     
    It's amazing how this analysis - once so popular with Marxists - has become a staple of the alt-right.

    Replies: @James N. Kennett

  • Translated: “likely to work any job for peanuts and to abuse of the welfare system, desperate for sex and with few qualms about sexual assault, and violent”.

    Why would unemployed or underemployed poor people be against people who might be reduce their chances of getting jobs, will likely reduce the resources destined to their welfare programs, might assault their wives or girlfriends if they go to work in Western Germany, are mostly fighting age men with scores to settle, and are likely to become part of the criminal underclass when they find out that living in Germany isn’t a free-for-all buffet?

    Oh I know. They’re evil, lazy bastards who hate on the saintly, hard-working immigrants. The richer and more worldly part of Germany, can afford to lose them, since they’ll have cheap immigrant labor from the dynamic, driven and determined community, says privileged German woman who studied at Harvard and lives in London.

    • Replies: @bomag
    @Lummard

    ...and we can tell how dynamic, driven and determined they are by the bang-up job they did building and improving their home country.

    Surprised they haven't been dubbed The Peace Corps, filled with Peace Corpse-men ™.

  • Commenter TheBoom responds to commenter Bomag: It's interesting that the current wave of feminism is now 49 years old, which would seem long enough to test whether it is likely ever to make the majority of women happy. But the conventional wisdom is merely that feminism can't possibly fail, all the evidence that it has...
  • @Almost Missouri
    Semi-OT

    NPR gets woke.

    National Public Radio reports that African men don't support their own kids; burden falls upon babymama and grandmama.

    https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2018/06/07/617097908/why-grandmothers-may-hold-the-key-to-human-evolution

    #YouveComeALongWayBaby
    #LikeAFishNeedsABicycle
    #FutureIsFeminst

    Hear Me Roar ... while I'm digging for tubers with a pointed stick to survive.

    Replies: @Dtbb, @Lugash, @Flip, @Mark P Miller, @Mark P Miller, @Lummard, @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta, @Hapalong Cassidy

    Funny how this is spinned as a feminist perspective when it’s actually about women having to support themselves because of absent fathers.

  • Evidence keeps accumulating that the liberal half of America took a sudden swerve into political extremism and psychological problems around 2013. Why? Commenter TheMediumIsTheMassage offers a pop cultural suggestion. “A central question about our time is: Why did Democrats go nuts in c. 2013?” This is indeed a central question of our time and while...
  • The polarization of the American left has FAR deeper roots than Django Unchained. It has started with the college culture of spreading of Critical Theory and Critical Race Theory.

    CT and CRT are postmodern “deconstructions” of society and law according to the program of “strong objectivity”, i.e. rejecting ACTUAL objectivity in favor of “lived experiences” and narratives, all based on the idea of “standpoint theory”, i.e. the idea that oppression gives you a special kind of knowledge that is not accessible to the Oppressors. The memes of “white privilege” or “microaggression” or “rape culture” have originated in CT/CRT.

    “Intersectionality” is another postmodern project that became dominant in American universities. The theory of intersectionality is that there’s a hierarchy of oppression that comes from being “marginalized” by the fact of not being part of the majority, and the idea that oppression can be fought through “minoritarian awareness”, which today is talked about is terms of “wokeness”.

    Basically, leaving aside all the postmodern jargon and obfuscation, CRT and intersectionality are based on the idea that a) ALL differences in income, job opportunities, incarceration rates, etc. between social groups are ONLY due to bigotry (racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, etc. etc.), either explicit or implicit B) white male are the Oppressors, everyone else is the Oppressed, although those who are more distant from whiteness and maleness are more oppressed C) all data or arguments that conflict with your narrative of oppression are simply falsehoods created by white supremacy; D) becoming “aware” of falsehoods and of the oppression, and forcing anyone who disagrees out of power, are what will finally create the Truly Egalitarian future and E) an explicit focus on race, gender, sexuality and reparations/”positive discrimination” are the way to create the egalitarian changes, and all “race/gender/sexuality-neutral” positions are only white male supremacy (“the Patriarchy”) in disguise.

    These ideas are the core of movements like #MeToo, Black Lives Matter, and all the other “woke” madness that have now become mainstream in the American left.

    The catalysts for the spreading of the “woke” narrative have been: A) the failure of “identity-netural” leftist movements like Occupy Wall Street in bringing forth the Scandinavian social democratic paradise that was the mainstream position of the “identity-neutral” left and B) Barack Obama’s second term, when he, unlike previous leftist leaders, instead of having a “Sister Souljah” moment instead gave legitimacy to CRT and intersectionality by supporting explicit postmodern identity political movements like Black Lives Matter.

    Pop culture is a mirror of deeper cultural and social changes. Django Unchained came after decades of pop culture and leftist media excusing and exalting violence if it’s done against Oppression, after decades of feminist and postmodernist re-interpretations of society, law, science, and everything else, all according to identity and power.

    • Replies: @Unladen Swallow
    @Lummard

    Your theory seems very solid, It was evident to me when he was elected that Obama was a "true believer" unlike Bill Clinton, who would always put pragmatism ahead of ideology, unlike Hilary and her predecessor. Obama putting Holder in charge of the Justice Department was an early indicator of what he thought, not to mention the tenaciousness with which he stuck with him long after after most Presidents would have abandoned an Attorney General who was so obviously a loose cannon.

    , @Kylie
    @Lummard

    So well said, thanks.

    , @Lagertha
    @Lummard

    excellent analysis. I was trying to put my thoughts together of similar views as yours, and the only difference (or what I could add) is that I first started noticing the movement against white people in my children's curriculum in primary school! I already saw covert messages that they were sooo privileged and that things have not been fair for "others." Mind you, I am an immigrant from a majority white country, so it really freaked me out - children being indoctrinated that they represent an evil, oppressive group.

    In HS, through AP classes, they were able to get away from the brainwashing of forced multiculturalism and an acceptance that diversity will be accepted by them. The burden of the white man was almost, comically blended into their books in social studies or English.

    And, another point: I really resent the fetishism of Democrats about the Scandinavian system. They have no idea that all people are taxed! Every single person pays income tax, and all your assets, savings, homes, boats, cars, motorcycles, tractors, vehicles of any kind, recreational or work, are taxed. It is not unusual that a person making the equivalent of $200K a year, would be taxed at 60%. Millionaires have retired to Portugal, Spain, Florida, Costa Rica, Monaco by the droves....since they are often taxed at 70-80% in their homeland.

    And, what Americans don't realize: Doctors and surgeons have half the salary, or even a quarter that American ones do. A retired pediatrics doctor (head of a hospital - no private hospitals in Scandinavia!) made 200K at the end of his career! So, there is no escape for elites if they want a Scandinavian system - people who earn the most, get taxed the most - even their traffic tickets are fined according to their income.

    Lastly, the system can not support illegal or massive amounts of immigrants - there have been a lot of cuts to the social services of indigenous Swedes, Finns, and Danes (last 2 years) to support thousands of people who have refused to integrate; and absolutely, collect welfare & child benefits for multiple children (African women were going on ferries across back & forth - Sweden & Finland - to collect benefits in both countries!. This is why nationalism is growing in Italy & northern Europe. This is why Catalan wants to break off of Spain. There is absolutely no logical or ethical argument by liberals to be made to force the Scandinavian countries to accept hundreds of thousands of people (mostly men, btw) from MENA. There is no benefit for the Nordic people. And, the violence and anarchy is just growing...just look at the knifings in UK...and acid throwing.

  • OT:

    Ezra Klein, who smeared Charles Murray and Sam Harris as “racist” for daring to discuss the effects of different IQ averages across different racial groups, is now smeared as “racist”, along with Bill Gates, for daring to point out that Africa has an obvious over-population problem.

    The “woke/anti-racists” will always eat their own. Their positions aren’t based on evidence or reasoned arguments, but on the dogmatic faith of anti-racism, the idea that all human beings MUST be equal in cognitive power and behavior, and that all differences in results MUST be due to the Oppression of Evil Whites.

    Anyone who even slightly disagrees with the dogmas is to be smeared as a “racist”, which is apparently the Mark of Cain, the anathema that can never be forgiven.

    As evidence piles up to show that races are real, that average differences between races are also real, and that they have concrete effects on differential rates of income, of incarceration, of academic achievements, etc., the “anti-racists” attack indiscriminately anyone who even seems to suggest that the world isn’t going to become the Perfectly Equal Utopia.

  • From the New York Times Opinion page: White Women, Come Get Your People They will defend their privilege to the death. By Alexis Grenell Ms. Grenell has written on gender and politics for The New York Daily News, The Washington Post and other outlets. Oct. 6, 2018 But the people who scare me the most...
  • It won’t happen.

    As Lee Kuan Yew said in a multicultural society people vote for their race and religion, not for political policies.

    All racial and religious groups other than whites already vote according to their ethnic origin in the US. And Evangelical and Mormons already vote according to their religion.

    Only liberal and independent whites vote against the interests of their social group, and that’s because they’re still convinced that some policies of the party which is increasingly characterizing itself as the anti-white party will benefit them.

    This isn’t going to change, unless we’re talking about more whites becoming “red pilled” and voting according to their racial interests.

    The US no longer have a clear white majority. The racially homogeneous days are over. Policies will matter less and less when compared to identity.

  • The article argues that white women having children with white men is part of a “blood pact” and presumably something that needs to be fought against in order to bring forth the Liberal Utopia.

    Imagine if anyone said this about any other racial group. Anyone would say that it’s genocidal rhetoric.

    • Agree: densa
  • I assumed this headline was self parody, but maybe it isn't. From the Washington Post: My review of Fukuyama's Identity: The Demand for Dignity... is here. Diversity's got electrolytes.
  • @ben tillman

    What people in Europe and the United States ought to be proud of, what they should celebrate, are the remarkable achievements of diversity.
     
    Is there even one?

    Replies: @Lummard, @Thirdtwin

    For Zakaria, diversity means that he’s able to live as a successful public intellectual in the prosperous and largely peaceful United States, instead of struggling in the caste systems of India as an Indian muslim, in a socio-economic landscape torn between a backward muslim society and aggressive Hindu nationalism.

    Also he gets to live in a place with sewers and clean streets. If I were him I’d find that remarkable too.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Lummard

    The Zakarias didn't do too badly back in India. His dad was the #2 figure in the ruling Congress Party behind only Mrs. Gandhi.

    He's actually had some sensible things to say about how it might make sense to defuse populism by cutting back on immigration.

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  • The origin of the rise of populism is immigration of people from backwards, violent, nepotistic, tribal and intolerant cultures into more high trust, low crime, socially open countries. That’s it. Nothing more and nothing less. It’s not hard to understand once you accept reality.

    People like Zakaria and Fukuyama instead think that deep down everyone is equal or at least equally likely to thrive and succeed in a meritocratic liberal democracy, so they’re baffled by why some people don’t, and why instead they isolate in ghettos, have incredibly high levels of crime and unemployment, cling to their ethnic origin, and reject liberal democratic values altogether.

    They’re also baffled by why natives don’t simply get along with the newcomers, and conclude that it must be a matter of wounded pride, of honor, of irrational and self-centered beliefs.

    They don’t understand that it’s a matter of conflicting cultures fighting for social dominance, for state benefits, for the right to write laws and enforce norms, and that the natives are simply defending their culture and their values from those of the newcomers.

    There’s nothing irrational or sentimental about wanting to preserve the high social trust, low crime, highly ordered, socially open and functional society where you live from turning into a tribal, violent, low trust and dysfunctional set of ethnic ghettos squabbling for benefits and to impose their views onto society at large.

    As crime statistics and terrorist attacks show, sometimes it’s a literal matter of life and death. Other times it’s a matter of preserving your culture for your posterity. Neither motivation is selfish, or irrational, or due to wounded pride or dignity.

    The problem with intellectuals like Zakaria or Fukuyama isn’t that they’re not clever or well-educated, but that their premise about cognitive and value equality between groups of people is completely false, so it’s garbage in, garbage out.

    There is plenty of evidence that shows that people aren’t equal in terms of behaviors and values, and that the role of socio-economic differences is not preponderant in shaping behaviors and values, either.

    You can’t turn the Middle East or Sub-Saharan Africa into economic and social paradises just by teaching people how to adopt liberal democratic values. You can’t turn the values of Nigerian or Syrian culture into those of the cultures of Britain or Sweden just by having Nigerians or Syrians live in London or Malmö.

    This is because the Nigerians or Syrians are different people from the native Britons or Swedes in many ways, many of which can be measured, and socio-economic pressure is not magically turning everyone into the same Homo liberalis democraticus.

    People are who they are. That’s the real meaning of “diversity”. Liberals assume that diversity is only about superficial aspects, like skin color, or language, or clothes, or cuisines, and that deep down a Nigerian is just a Brit waiting to happen, at least when it comes to adhering to the norms of British work ethic, respecting British laws and customs, and thriving in the liberal and open British society.

    “Diversity”, for liberal thinkers, is just a thin veneer, a splash of color, a whiff of the exotic, and that when it comes to things that really matter everyone is equal. Mestizo immigrants are just Iowans with better food, Syrian or Nigerian immigrants are just British people who don’t eat pork.

    This “diversity” isn’t real diversity, it’s the diversity of a TV ad. Human biodiversity is much more vast and important. But since studying human biodiversity produces evidence that the global liberal democratic rise is just an Euro-centric myth it has become taboo, verboten to talk about the diversity that really matters.

    So you get stupid articles like this. And you don’t get any practical solution to the issues caused by diversity, because you’re too busy praising how many different cuisines you can savor in a London or New York neighborhood.

    • Agree: Dtbb, Forbes, Mr. Rational
    • Disagree: Charles Pewitt
    • Replies: @anon
    @Lummard


    The problem with intellectuals like Zakaria or Fukuyama isn’t that they’re not clever or well-educated, but that their premise about cognitive and value equality between groups of people is completely false...
     
    You know, I was about to correct you on this point. I was going to say that the great and good tend to think that the Iraq war was doomed to failure, that you couldn't force democracy on the Middle East, and that the obvious corollary of that is that there isn't "cognitive and value equality" between peoples. And they simply prefer not to mention the latter in public.

    But then I read Zakaria's 2015 "Iraq war was a terrible mistake", and I think you're right.

    First, he was in favour of it at the time.

    Second: despite this extremely striking and high profile example of cognitive and value inequality, he still can't quite bring himself to admit the obvious:


    Consider this: The United States replaced the regime in Iraq.... The result? Chaos and humanitarian tragedy. ...Libya... ...chaos and humanitarian tragedy. ...Yemen... ...chaos and humanitarian tragedy.

    The reality in that part of the world is that many of its regimes are fragile, presiding over weak institutions, little civil society, and often no sense of nationhood itself.
     

    The problem isn't the people, it's the regimes and the institutions; and there's no mention of what civil society is comprised of, or who it is that has no sense of nationhood, i.e., the people.

    Earlier in the essay, he says that prior to the invasion he "never believed that Iraqis or Arabs were somehow genetically incapable of self-rule." In the very next paragraph: "I worried that Iraq's sectarian divisions would pull the country apart." No acknowledgement of the contradiction between those two points.

    This is how he ends it:


    Could Iraq have turned out differently and set a different pattern? If a stable, functioning democracy had been established in the heart of the Middle East, could it have been a model for the region, a third way between dictatorship and Islamic radicalism?

    Well, If America had made all the right decisions, who knows. But it didn't, and as a result, we will never truly know what Iraq's future could have been.
     

    (Sidebar: Ignore for the moment that there already is a "stable, functioning democracy... in the heart of the Middle East". What's never explained is why Arabs can only learn the value of a "stable, functioning democracy" when they see one in their own backyard. Haven't they heard of Europe, or America? Don't they all have satellite TV?)

    It seems to me like Zakaria had put his finger in the wind and determined that conventional wisdom was that Iraq was a mistake, and if he wanted to continue being an influential public figure in America, he needed to start singing from the same hymn sheet as all the other influential public figures. But perhaps he thinks privately it could have worked - if only America had made "the right decisions".

    You're right, fella: he's not stupid, he's just incapable of seeing things as they are. In his mind, there are only technocratic problems - weak institutions, say - and technocratic solutions - some new policy that'll fix everything that previous policies failed to. This time, it'll work!

    What a dingleberry.

    , @Anonymous
    @Lummard


    “Diversity”, for liberal thinkers, is just a thin veneer, a splash of color, a whiff of the exotic, and that when it comes to things that really matter everyone is equal. Mestizo immigrants are just Iowans with better food, Syrian or Nigerian immigrants are just British people who don’t eat pork.
     
    Diversity is, for liberal thinkers, whatever they want it to mean at that particular second. When it comes to admitting foreigners to the functioning civilization your ancestors have painstakingly constructed over the centuries, then liberals like to claim that diversity really is just skin deep.

    On the other hand, when it comes to allocating shares of the racial spoils system, then diversity is about more than skin, because if black people are just white people with more melanin, it can't possibly matter what the racial breakdown of Google software engineers happens to be. If all racial differences are superficial, then diversity can't possibly be a strength. It will have no effect either way.

    Basically, if you're a nonwhite, then diversity is good because it means more members of your particular clan in a place where they can accrue power and wealth. Transporting your extended family to an historically white country(and not intermarrying into the local population) also gives you access to the race card, which you could never play in your homeland. In Europe, it also gives you access to white people. For the law-abiding nonwhite immigrants this means a big soft target who for the most part will not question their dispossession in the same way the Chinese in China or blacks in South Africa would under similar circumstances. For the criminal nonwhites this means a big soft target who will almost never fight back when raped or assaulted(except in America, which is why liberals want to limit gun ownership).

    If you're an upper class white, diversity means more servile employees and more potential tenants for your rental properties, thus making life more difficult for less educated whites, who upper class whites hate more than anything else on the planet. Also, when the dumber members of the nonwhites immigrate and find themselves unable to compete in a modern economy, the upper class whites find it useful to redirect their rage towards lower class whites, rather than the upper class whites who actually run everything. The face of racism becomes a White Van Man from the north of England or a trailer-park resident from West Virginia. Next time you read a complaint about white privilege from an aggrieved minority in a newspaper, check the editorial staff. I can guarantee it's lily-white.
    , @Hockamaw
    @Lummard

    Brilliantly stated. You have hit the nail on the head.

    , @Another German Reader
    @Lummard

    @ Ron Unz:

    Unz.com should have vote/like system for user-comments.

    This comment is platinum.

    , @Charles Pewitt
    @Lummard

    Fareed Zakaria is an evil, non-European globalizer who is deadly aware of the plot to kill European Christian nations using mass immigration as a demographic weapon. Zakaria is being used by globalizer scum as a grinning wog frontman to push mass immigration and multicultural mayhem.

    Globalizers such as the evil WASP turds in the Bush Organized Crime Syndicate, or non-Europeans such as Fareed Zakaria who have been heavily promoted by the evil globalizers who control the corporate media, are deliberating using mass immigration and multiculturalism to destroy cultural cohesion and cultural integrity in European Christian nations.

    Why see merely misguided but honorable globalizers pushing mass immigration out of some mistaken belief in so-called "diversity," when you can get right to the nub of the problem and recognize that these people are evil and out to destroy all European Christian nations using mass immigration as a demographic weapon?

    , @Nadir
    @Lummard

    "The origin of the rise of populism is immigration of people from backwards, violent, nepotistic, tribal and intolerant cultures into more high trust, low crime, socially open countries. That’s it. Nothing more and nothing less."

    There's also race, of course. As "visible minorities" pour into white countries, they demand more of their own in textbooks, TV shows, politics, etc, and form racial/ethnic lobbies to foist their own interests onto the host society. China is rapidly industrializing, has a low crime rate and is not tribal - but I still don't want my people to be replaced by Chinese.

    "Liberals assume that diversity is only about superficial aspects, like skin color, or language, or clothes, or cuisines, and that deep down a Nigerian is just a Brit waiting to happen, at least when it comes to adhering to the norms of British work ethic, respecting British laws and customs, and thriving in the liberal and open British society."

    For "right-liberals" (i.e. those writing for the National Review or Weekly Standard) this is the case. However, left-liberals believe that white European societies are inherently oppressive and cruel and will benefit from other groups who DO NOT assimilate and instead add their own "vibrancy."

    "This 'diversity' isn’t real diversity, it’s the diversity of a TV ad. Human biodiversity is much more vast and important. But since studying human biodiversity produces evidence that the global liberal democratic rise is just an Euro-centric myth it has become taboo, verboten to talk about the diversity that really matters."

    Utterly outside the realm of mainstream public debate. Normies don't care about HBD, it's a niche topic, and nobody is forming their political opinions based on it. In fact, if you bring it up to any left-liberal worth his salt, he'll just point out that the West killed a lot of American Indians and destroyed their culture, and colonized Africa and Asia, so on what basis can Western countries now preach about HBD? Of course, HBD has its value when discussing racial and cultural differences, but its critical weakness is the same as that of liberalism - universalism. To presume that everyone in the world cares about HBD is no different from presuming that everyone wants democracy, or a free market, or women's rights. The way to protect Western countries is to inspire Westerners to defend them as their home - blood and soil - not by using the sort of pie-in-the-sky abstract concepts that the neocons impaled mainstream conservatism upon.

    , @War for Blair Mountain
    @Lummard

    Jesus Christ....your monotonously beating around the bush with your blatherings about ethnic sensibilities. It’s about the racial tribal conquest of Working Class Native Born White American LIVING AND BREEDING SPACE in places such as NJ and California by Hindus....Sihks....and Pakistani Muslims.....

  • From The Atlantic: A racial group is an extended family that has a higher than random level of coherence and continuity due to some degree of endogamy. An ethnic group is a population united by some cultural characteristics that are typically passed down within genetic families but that don't have to be (e.g., language, religion,...
  • @obwandiyag
    Race isn't real but you want it to be real so you believe it's real.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @JMcG, @Lummard, @Brutusale

    Differences of traits across different populations of humans are real, closely related to ancestry, and associate to form some pretty well-defined clusters (with some degree of overlapping of course). You can call those clusters “sqwyjiia” instead of “races” if you want, but you cannot deny their existence.

  • I see that in the Atlantic article, in one of the parts not quoted by Sailer, you can find this paragraph on sickle-cell disease:

    Some students would receive a text that, following the conventions of many biology textbooks today, simply stated that sickle cell is more common among African Americans. Donovan would give the other group a similar passage, but with a crucial difference: This text would explain, accurately, that sickle cell is more common in people with ancestors from historically malarial areas, including sub-Saharan Africa, South Asia, and southern Europe. But it would leave out explicit mention of racial categories.

    This is yet another example of indocrination, in this case indoctrination by omission.

    Sickle-cell anemia isn’t AS common in South Asia and Southern Europe as it is in Sub-Saharan African.

    Of course the allele that codify for sickle-cell disease are not associated one-to-one with the alleles that codify for dark skin (they’re not the same alleles!) and they’re closely associated with malarial areas, since sickle-cell disease confers a degree of resistance to malaria which makes it adaptive. That much is true. But 80% of cases of sickle-cell diseases occur in Sub-Saharan Africa.

    Sickle-cell disease is MORE common among African-American than among, say, Southern Italians: 8% of African Americans are affected, compared to 2% in Sicily (more in some areas of Sicily than others). DIFFERENCES between races are what can be compared, not just the presence or absence of a trait.

    Furthermore not all forms of sickle cell disease are caused by the same genetic sequences across races: Hemoglobin SB+ (beta) thalassemia is relatively common among Sicilians, much less common among people of Sub-Saharan ancestry, while the opposite is true for sickle-cell anemia.

    Studies have also shown that African-American with sickle-cell disease are less genetically admixed than other African-Americans: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3116635/ so when talking SPECIFICALLY about the prevalence of sickle-cell disease in African Americans saying that it’s a genetic disease inherited from racial origins is pretty accurate.

    Sickle-cell disease shows that while admixture exists, and lots of traits are NOT EXCLUSIVE of a race, or not associated one-to-one with a race. However it also shows that traits ARE inherited and shared along racial lines, that races are not just pseudo-science or a product of folklore.

    Strictly speaking races are “constructs”, but only in the same sense that the laws of gravity or of evolution by natural selection are a “construct”. They’re SCIENTIFIC CONSTRUCTS, namely useful models to understand reality, make predictions, explain phenomena.

    More evidence can lead to revisions to the models: genetic evidence shows that Sub-Saharan Africans and Aboriginal Australians are different races, while the first observations classified them as the same race. Similarly the Newtonian paradigm has been surpassed by the Einstenian paradigm for gravity, and genetics has improved and redefined some aspects of evolution by natural selection. This is common and normal, it’s how science marches on.

    What this means isn’t that “there are no races” or “there are no differences in traits between races”, but that there’s no Platonic ideals of a race, there’s no “spiritual racial bond” or “collective racial guilt”, regardless of what SJWs (or, admittedly, some of the less scientifically inclined among the alt-right) think. What is real are differences in traits between races, which are measurable and comparable.

    To put it in simple terms: human biodiversity explains WHY blacks ON AVERAGE achieve much less and have much more problems with the justice system (in the US) than whites. It doesn’t say that all blacks are criminal underachievers, or that all whites are successful and squeaky-clean, or that all whites are “privileged” and all black are “oppressed”.

    SJWs are projecting their own Platonic standards about “racism” onto biology. Their theory requires them to see “whiteness” as a pervasive, omnipotent Satan that corrupts everything, so they assume that their critics are all equally worshiping “whiteness” as an omnipotent God that creates anything good and holy.

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    @Lummard

    1) Leftism is a religion
    2) Leftism is a devil's religion
    3) Leftism is going to get us killed