It’s too late to change or fix anything. The coup has already happened, as the media is obviously completely coopted and scripted. The helpless population are frogs, and the media is the boiling water. Whites need to start finding ENCLAVES, secure, provisioned, hard to reach and well-armed. The shift will come suddenly, and there will be nowhere to hide. The best offense will be good defense. Form them NOW.

I wouldn’t drink the tap water in Flint, Michigan, and numerous other vibrant areas of the US. Don’t know about the baneleures around France, either.

One thing that varies latitudinally with the Japanese is interbreeding with the Ainu

Got more than my share of pops thru the 60’s and 70’s. Also got hit by chalkboard erasers and chalk, and in the 1st grade made to stand in the wastepaper basket in the corner. Guess they were out of dunce’s caps. None of that’s done anymore.

Legal issues for the schools and all. Less effective than it’s cracked up to be, too.

Never had to resort to it with our own kids, but they’re girls.

suicidal tendancies
X
black flag
captain beefheart
zappa
art of noise
rough trade / two-tone
public image
fabulous thunderbirds
ministry
metallica
new order

a different decade for me

Peter:
Quail hunting varies.
Walking fencelines for bobwhites- lowscale.

Working bobwhites behind a pointer/retriever you trained yourself – mid. That's Uncle Leroy. Dr. Bob was an amazing dog.

Driving a quail buggy in West Texas for blue quail over a guide's team of dogs – upscale.

AE/Steve:
Most guys hunting for deer are going to be undergunned for big game. I wouldn't take a shot at a moose with a 30-30 because a) it would be cruel and b) it would be dangerous.
I can see a guy from Alaska carrying a bigger gun just to make the most of his opportunities.

A moose hunter might take a deer, but probably not as doing so would completely ruin his chances of taking a moose that day. An Alaska native might, but if I flew up for moose, I'll take my deer back at home.

Btw My Uncle Leroy from piedmont Virginia would consider himself a more avid golfer than hunter. I knew if Steve showed in this thread, he'd bring golf into it.

AE:
The big difference between deer, and large game is logistics.

Anyone almost anywhere in the country can drive 70 miles and hunt deer. Usually not that far. In most parts of the country, deer are hunted at short ranges (50-75yd), with inexpensive guns (e.g. .270, .30-30) – even shotguns. Practice at that range is not nearly as demanding. Deer are small enough to be easily manhandled and butchered with common kitchen utensils. The only extra garment you are likely to purchase is a $10 orange vest.

Elk, caribou, and moose are large game. They are remote from most of the population, so most who hunt them jet in and are picked up by an outfitter. You then 4wheel to a lodge. In late fall/winter in places where the snow can kill you. So you have bought some special clothes, I hope. Then you snowmobile or horse to a camp. Then you stalk you prey – in the case of Elk you take shots in the 2-300 yd range. If you're lucky. With a big gun(.338 min), good scope. You better have practiced to a knives edge, because you'll likely get just one shot. If you've made a good shot, you now have a carcass the size of a cow in the middle of nowhere. So the outfitter will provide some slaughterhouse instruments to portion your kill out into manageable chunks. You then reverse the process to get home.

Hunting deer costs $3-400 setup cost(clothes and gun), plus less than $100 a season for ammo and license for 3-5 animals. Typical deer hunters spend a few hours a few days hunting deer.

Hunting elk costs $3-6,000 setup cost, plus $6-10,000 a season for 1 or 2 animals. You'll have to dedicate at least a week.

I'm stretching a bit on both of these – many deer hunters spend a fair amount of money for access to game. And a lot of big game hunters live where the big game is, so don't have to spend as much.

My point is your friends Dad is likely in a different SES than my Uncle Leroy, the blue collar, rural, high school grad deer and quail hunter, who is the typical hunter.

The GSS HUNT variable doesn't tell you much about someone who hunts moose or caribou, just as the FISH variable doesn't tell you much about trophy marlin fishermen.

The GSS lumps together all hunters. This makes inference of specific hunter's statistical attributes invalid.

The average deer or small game hunter would be overwhelmed by the logistical requirements of waterfowl hunting.

As a waterfowl hunter, I would be overwhelmed by the logistical requirements of elk, moose, or caribou hunting. I'd love to do it, but making it happen would be a once in a lifetime effort for me.

Fishing is a good analogy. Most fishers go to the nearest creek or pond, throw a hook in, and catch what bites. Others (me) charter a 46' fishing boat 70 miles offshore to fish for ling, mahi-mahi, and tuna. Still other jet into Anchorage and charter a floatplane 500 miles into the wilderness to fish for arctic char.

The numbers in group 1: millions of individuals, group 2: 100,000s, group 3: low 10,000s. I posit the attributes of groups 1,2, and 3 differ.

Way spooky. How do I know the meanings of words I don’t know the meanings of? Some of the adjectives and adverbs I can kind of see how I could puzzle out, but those 1 syllable nouns?

It would be interesting to see how my nephews and nieces do on this by age.

Great minds think alike
http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.wordpress.com/2008/01/22/17-gifted-children/

How about a primary in all 50 states the last Tuesday in August.

The full version of the article has numbers you might use:
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070817/D8R2UKLG0.html

It’s mostly BS, though. I shoot competitively, and the Black Hills 175gr match .308 is the same one used by military snipers. No supply problem, and we buy by the pallet.

If there were .223 problems, I’d have heard of those too.

oops, doesn’t like gt and lt signs. Continues… 
 
I wonder if HFA is equivalent to 1,2,3,4 or to 2,4,6,8 or 3,6,9,12 i.e. a 1 lt N lt Norm. I think my gestalt N to be 6-8, but I don’t use it because the 5,10 math is so much faster.

Of course, you don’t count to 73 using 1,2,3,4 (I hope). I count 5,10,15…70-3 . I wonder if HFA is equivalent to 1,2,3,4 or to 2,4,6,8 or 3,6,9,12 i.e. a 1

Why are musical styles stuck?

They aren’t, you’re just not aware of the new styles. The music-industrial complex is ossified in the 1970’s. I was a clerk at sound warehouse in 1983-5 and it was obvious then. The LP vinyl record is all they know. They killed off the single – it was dead in 1983 as far as what was actually sold.

The CD multiplied 5-fold? the number of titles that could be carried in a given sq footage. And then the web and amazon and mp3s happened.

There was a explosion of choice in the 1990’s as music shed its dependence on the big labels for distribution. Now, the big labels are the McDonalds and Burger King of the music industry. Yuck, who wants to eat there? Little kiddies and old fogies.

I’ve followed “electronic” music all my life. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_electronic_music_genres
ouch. I have some modest familiarity with about 1/3 of that list. Nitzhonot? WTF??

So what I’m saying is that is if all you hear is the same old music, that’s cause you listen to the same old music. Me, I can’t keep up with even a fraction of it, and I try.

He probably came here to get away from all that. Can’t win for losin. Idiot cop.

That would be a Galtic Elf.

Fly: 
 
As far as I know, all the stimulants work in the same range of function _for people with normal brain chemistry_- some faster onset, some longer duration, some fewer side effects; but all having the same broad range of effects – an IQ boost, increased focus, and able to read and do math faster. 
 
As far as I recall, there was no effect on memory or creativty one way or the other. 
 
I have heard of expiremental drugs that boost memory, but IIRC they were more akin to a supplement like creatine than a psychotropic drug. 
 
We optimised our regime strictly for test taking – not classwork, studying, or composing papers. The side effects wouldn’t be worth it. We found none of the pharma grade stuff worked – it lasted too long and didn’t kick in quickly enough at the low dose we desired. 
 
That’s probably because of the administration method. All the pharma stuff was oral, while we inhaled. 
 
The effect lasted 3-4 hours. The side effects followed immediately thereafter. You would feel like you had a hangover until you went to sleep, and have your sleep cycles disturbed for a couple days. Overall you lose a good bit of productivity, but for those 4 hours the wind is at your back. 
 
And all this may have changed – this was from ’76 to ’84. There was no adderal or concerta around back then. 
 
The Army used oral dexedrine during the Panama takedown, to overcome chronic fatigue, a least according to a couple guys I know who were involved in it.

I actually did this in high school and college, and it definitely works. We used something more potent than ritalin, though. While under the influence, my perception was that my G went up by a lot more than 7 points. I’d think more in the 15 to 20 points range. Reading also was faster, and focus was better. 
 
The method we had developed (this was at a prep school, and “we” were the first class), was to study the night before, but go to bed early so as to be well rested for the test. Then, immediately before the test, medicate yourself. Dosage was at lower than recreational levels. 
 
This was only done for high stakes tests. PSAT, SAT, and finals in a subject one wasn’t strong in. If you tried to do it for every final it wouldn’t work. You were diminished for the next couple days after using the drug. 
 
I wouldn’t think a regular joe would see any benefit from taking a therapeutic dose of concerta every day. Frankly, from the “hangovers” we suffered through, I question the wisdom of long-term medication for all but the worst cases of ADHD. 
 
BTW – my experience with the SAT is agreeable to the 100 points. I went from 1480 without to 1540 with. I’d think those down in the 1000’s would get more than my 60 point boost.

I was wondering how long it would be before the holy underware was brought up! 
 
Pardner, that’s damn near as kooky as handling snakes 🙂  
 
Nice folks and all, just touched in the head a bit.

vic: 
Post reread.  
 
Still not buying it. I’m not one of those antivaccine ideologues, I just think chickenpox is a special case where we shouldn’t force everyone to conform to one public health policy. 
 
This is a disease that is 99.99998% nonlethal (if the 5.8deaths/yr is accurate). Yes, Shingles and Encephalitis are rare complications – I remember Mom taking my temperature hourly to guard against the latter. The former typically crops up in otherwise immunocompromised individuals. A coworker developed it recently, one of the many aspects of her having diabetes. 
 
How many died due to complications of the vaccine? 
 
How many of those 5.8 deaths were of adults who wouldn’t have been phased by the disease, but were one of the 10% who the vaccine was ineffective for, and didn’t get exposed in childhood due to the high herd immunity the vaccination program yields? (In the US, 55% of chicken pox deaths were in the over-20 age group) 
 
Where’s the broad, independent, double blind long term epidemiological study comparing group outcomes for the vaccinated vs those exposed as children? 
 
“..since the vaccine was introduced in the US in 1995, the healthcare system has saved close to $100 million US due to fewer complications and hospitalizations.” WhooHoo! 10m a year nationwide! Given my familiarity with the workings of our medical system, my guess is we’ll never see that study. It might interfere with the profitability of pediatricians and the hmo’s that employ them. 
 
Look, had I a child to vaccinate, vaccinated s/he would be. But I can understand how others might reach a different conclusion. Polio? sure. The common cold? For me yes, but if you don’t want to do that to/for your kid, whatever, and forget what Aetna has to say about it. 
 
Wasn’t kidding about the genetic question either – look at the Wiki page on chickenpox. That is way, way worse than anything I’ve ever seen firsthand.

Personally, I wouldn’t want to put up with the hassle of a kid down with chickenpox. But I’m lazy that way. 
 
As a public health policy, though, I don’t think a “my way or the highway” is justified on what is in childhood a nuisance disease with no more dire prognosis than a case of strepth, cold, or flu. 
 
A parent may justifiably question the efficacy of the existing vaccine vs. live immunity. 
 
Likewise, a parent may hold the hygiene hypothesis to be true: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hygiene_hypothesis 
 
In this case, a parent might feel that removing a virus we’ve lived with benevolently for living memory might be a immuneological expirement best performed on other people’s children, if performed at all. 
 
As I recall, my parents purposely exposed my younger brother in preschool, so that he wouldn’t get it in gradeschool and be absent several days. 
 
I recall the chickenpox myself, and it was universally held to be a mild disease- you ran a little temperature and got pox, which itched a little. It lasted 2 days and the pox healed in a week. I’d rather chickenpox as a kid than a cold. And everyone I grew up with reacted similarly. 
 
Of course I grew up in a genetic monoculture white as the driven snow. Are there genetic groups that have a more extreme reaction to chickenpox?