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  • I see what you’re trying to do here but most lefties won’t read past the second paragraph. The stuff about the white race. They’ll see that and dismiss the whole thing as Stormfront/Nazi propaganda.

    • Replies: @G Pinfold
    @FineSwine

    Depends. You're standing still, but events change the frame. The 9% white statistic will affect some people. This is a great piece by Steve, at the right time.

    Also, I am waiting for a libertarian rebuttal. The title might have been 'The Limits of Right Libertarianism.'

    Replies: @JackOH

  • From today's Guardian: In other words, the government of Sweden didn't have a clue how many poor people there are in the world who'd like to move to Sweden and collect welfare. But you can't blame Sweden's leaders for thei
  • @rvg
    You delusional imbeciles and idiots realize that even if you have an immigration moratorium (which has as much chance of happening as Donald Trump beating Usain Bolt in the 100 meter dash) it won't matter one jot with regards to long-term white demographics because whites make up only 40% of births as it is, and so whatever happens Brazil will look fairly white today compared to what America will look like in 2030 or 2040, and that Costa Rica will look like a WN whitopia compared to the US by then? And that your average white person by 2040 will look Walid Jumblat, Juan Pablo Montoya, and Jennifer Lopez, and then people will argue that yes they are white because they do not have the skin pigmentation of Bantu tribesmen, and if you look hard enough you can still make out some white feature. The only viable option really is mass emigration of the remaining whites that are still reasonably non-admmixed to the Southern Cone or Eastern/Central Europe.

    Replies: @FineSwine, @Wilkey, @Daniel Williams

    whites make up only 40% of births as it is, and so whatever happens Brazil will look fairly white today compared to what America will look like in 2030 or 2040, and that Costa Rica will look like a WN whitopia compared to the US by then? And that your average white person by 2040 will look Walid Jumblat, Juan Pablo Montoya, and Jennifer Lopez,

    But that 60% is heavily concentrated in just a few places, mostly along the Mexican border. That will mean balkanisation, with all of its attendant problems, not the creation of a single big happy coffee-colored nation.

  • @Grumpy
    @Steve Sailer

    It means "horrible decisions."

    Swedish words that get a reaction from English speakers:

    slut = end
    beslut = decision
    fart = speed
    full fart = full speed
    utfart = exit
    avfart = offramp
    hår (sounds like "whore") = hair
    fack = union
    fick = got [Germans react to this one.]
    sex = six

    Replies: @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever..., @FineSwine, @jimmyriddle

    sex = six

    Say “I need six” in an Australian accent.

  • On 9/11 there were numerous reports of celebrating Middle Easterners in New Jersey, but this is the one that appears to have been most carefully documented. From ABC News on an incident that has since been pretty much memory-holed: Were Israelis Detained on Sept. 11 Spies? Millions saw the horrific images of the World Trade...
  • 9/11 was the second time that Muslims tried to bring down those towers. It was only a matter of time before they had another go.

    • Agree: Travis
  • One of the forerunner events for the current Black Autumn on American campuses was the defacing and removal of the statue of arch-imperialist Cecil Rhodes at the University of Cape Town last spring. So, with the new 32 American Rhodes Scholars being announced over a weekend otherwise devoted on campuses to agitation involving The Black...
  • The scholarships were originally to be offered to British, American and German students. Rhodes wanted foster fraternal ties between the ruling classes of all three countries. He wanted Germany, Britain and the U.S. to jointly rule the world in peaceful amity. That didn’t work out.

  • @Jonathan Mason
    The UK has all kinds of hate speech laws, the purpose being to tamp down racial tensions. However these apply to public speech. If you hear my brother in law who is a police sergeant in the large majority Pakistani city of Bradford speaking about problems with Pakistani residents over a family dinner, you will hear some things that are not in the public arena.

    The First Amendment relates largely to the ability of press corporations to criticize the government and has little practical application for the average citizen. If he or she expresses controversialpolitical or religious opinions in the workplace, for example, there is little protection from being fired on all kinds of pretexts.

    Replies: @FineSwine

    The UK has all kinds of hate speech laws, the purpose being to tamp down racial tensions.

    The problem is that laws originally passed to prevent racial and religious defamation eventually become used to protect minority criminals from exposure. This is why the Rotherham and related scandals happened. People who knew what was happening were reluctant to speak out about it for fear of arrest. Would race relations now be better or worse if sunlight had been shone on this situation right from the start?

  • From The Atlantic:
  • @Stan Adams
    @epebble

    Those seeds were planted by the Soviets, who invaded Afghanistan, and the Iraqis, who invaded Kuwait.

    In the '80s, it seemed like a good idea to throw our weight - even Rambo(!) - behind "the enemy of our enemy" in Afghanistan. Now we know better. (We should have known better back then.)

    As for the Gulf War, would we have been better off if we'd allowed Saddam to keep Kuwait and then take over Saudi Arabia, as well? (Maybe.)

    Replies: @epebble, @FineSwine

    As for the Gulf War, would we have been better off if we’d allowed Saddam to keep Kuwait and then take over Saudi Arabia, as well? (Maybe.)

    Saddam wasn’t going to take over Saudi Arabia, but the Saudis would almost certainly have been ousted from power if they had allowed Kuwait to be annexed by Iraq. The new regime would probably not be friendly to the West. It was a difficult situation.

    Does anyone have an explanation for why the State Department gave Saddam the green light to do this? I can only imagine that attention in the summer of 1990 was focused on Eastern Europe and nobody was watching the Middle East.

  • A particularly discomfiting aspect of the temper tantrums blacks are currently throwing on campuses is that their alleged causes, such as Halloween costumes and KKK invasions, are so embarrassingly unintelligent. Consider Thursday's contretemps at Harvard Law School: protesting black students announce it's a national crisis that black gaffer tape is found over the portraits of...
  • In the old days someone aspiring to elected office would have to travel the country to get himself known. Talks, dinners, speeches, debates. He would need to make himself seen and heard up close by thousands of ordinary people. It was hard to fake smarts or fluency.

  • From Haaretz:
  • @Jack D
    @Steve Sailer

    If it was easy, why didn't the Russian do it? I think it would have been bad propaganda for ANY country to send men on a one-way mission. The Russians sent dogs up into space with no intention of returning them alive but they drew the line at sending people on one way missions. Of course the Soviet Union of the '60s was different than Stalinist Russia. Stalin of course had no problem with spending other people's lives. Taran (ramming an enemy plane with your aircraft) was sometimes practiced by Soviet pilots in WWII but it was not 100% suicidal nor was it something that they were ordered to do.

    Replies: @FineSwine

    Sending men on suicide space missions would have been a PR disaster for the USSR. Even the deaths of those dogs provoked international protests (Laika). A one-way mission wouldn’t be much of a technical achivement anyway.

  • War photographer Teun Voeten writes in Politico about trying to gentrify the Brussels neighborhood where so many terrorist plots are hatched: I called Molenbeek my home for nine years. In 2005, it was the city’s last affordable neighborhood — in large part because of its bad reputation. My apartment, just across the canal from the...
  • I remember speaking to an actual Moroccan-from-Morroco about a related issue and he mentioned that back home most of these extremists would be in prison. The government there doesn’t tolerate this crap.

  • In an op-ed in the New York Times, Michel Houellebecq, author of Submission, writes: Michel Houellebecq: How France’s Leaders Failed Its People Lire en français (Read in French) » By MICHEL HOUELLEBECQ NOV. 19, 2015 2 COMMENTS ... You get used to terrorist attacks. France will hold on. The French will hold on, without even...
  • @Stan D Mute
    @km


    Reactionaries want to believe that the ‘people’ have common sense or that they oppose their demographic replacement. They do not. They are floating on the edge of consciousness; they have few or no children; and they care only about silly promises made by fantasists who offer goodies on debt and taxation of the middling rich.
     
    Yes. And just as there is no democratic solution, neither is there any possibility of a second American Revolution. The disparity in arms is today insurmountable. Our only conceivable chance is to go full banana republic. We need General Pinochet. The Pentagon would have to evict Capitol Hill. Any coincidence that we had the Pentagon purges not long ago?

    Maybe China will give some of us refuge.

    Replies: @FineSwine

    I remember reading somewhere that the closest the U.S. has come to a military coup in modern times was when Truman fired MacArthur in 1951. The general had great popular support, as well the support of the army, and could have caused a lot of trouble to Truman if he had wanted.

  • We're constantly being lectured about White Privilege, but the long term trend in the United States over the last half century is for groups on the margins of whiteness, such as Hispanics, South Asians, and, now, Arabs, to demand that the government grant them the status and associated privileges of being officially Nonwhite in modern...
  • @International Jew

    Who will jump ship in the future?
     
    The Irish? In college now, the kids are taught that the Irish weren't considered white in the 1850s.

    Go figure.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @yaqub the mad scientist, @FineSwine

    The Irish? In college now, the kids are taught that the Irish weren’t considered white in the 1850s.

    They were considered members of the Celtic race rather than the Anglo-Saxon race. This had nothing to do with skin color.

  • From The Atlantic:
  • @epebble
    @Ron Unz

    I think one of the worst national security decisions made by US was to build up Taliban in Afghanistan during the 1980s. Second was the first (1991) Iraq war. Without these two seeds, most likely, there would not have been 9/11 and the consequential road to perdition we are all on.

    Replies: @FineSwine, @Stan Adams

    I think one of the worst national security decisions made by US was to build up Taliban in Afghanistan during the 1980s. Second was the first (1991) Iraq war. Without these two seeds, most likely, there would not have been 9/11 and the consequential road to perdition we are all on.

    The Afghan rebels enjoyed generous support from wealthy Muslim nations like Saudi Arabia. American support was important but probably not decisive.

    The mistake was not so much fighting the 1st Iraq war but staying around after it was “over”. The Saudis and their local allies should have been left to deal with Saddam, which shouldn’t have been too difficult since most of his armor and air power had been eliminated.

    • Replies: @5371
    @FineSwine

    KSA would not have dared to provide that help without US backing.

  • Freedom, democracy, diversity. You can have any two.

  • We're constantly being lectured about White Privilege, but the long term trend in the United States over the last half century is for groups on the margins of whiteness, such as Hispanics, South Asians, and, now, Arabs, to demand that the government grant them the status and associated privileges of being officially Nonwhite in modern...
  • How do blacks feel about all these other groups horning in on their privileges?

  • From the NYT: Three Teams of Coordinated Attackers Carried Out Assault on Paris, Officials Say; Hollande Blames ISIS By ADAM NOSSITER, AURELIEN BREEDEN and KATRIN BENNHOLD NOV. 14, 2015 1505 COMMENTS PARIS — Three teams of Islamic State attackers acting in unison carried out the terrorist assault in Paris on Friday night, officials said Saturday,...
  • Thoughts on the alleged shootdown of United 93 on 9/11?

  • I'm a race realist. What does that mean? It means I don’t doubt that race is a real and important thing; more than that, it’sfundamental to biology. The foundational text of modern biology is Charles Darwin’s book On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, subtitle: “The Preservation of Favored Races in the...
  • Just saw a reference to ‘Guns, Germs and Steel’ on another website and immediately thought of this. That must be the ‘bible’ of the ‘magic dirt’ cult.

  • The Missouri Madness, Free Screech at Yale, Google’s disappearing white veterans, EU ministers’ disappearing Europe—what do they teach us? To adapt the title of a column I wrote three years ago: that white people are wimps. (I used a different word in Takimag, which has a more louche atmosphere.) Perhaps that’s a bit unkind, not...
  • Yes, that’s always been my understanding. A dispute about gun ownership escalated into a dispute about child rape. Reno launched the assault to ‘save the children’ and got everybody killed.

    (I wonder if memories of Waco were why the police at Columbine were so reluctant to intervene there. They just waited until the shooters killed themselves before finally entering the school.)

  • From the NYT: Three Teams of Coordinated Attackers Carried Out Assault on Paris, Officials Say; Hollande Blames ISIS By ADAM NOSSITER, AURELIEN BREEDEN and KATRIN BENNHOLD NOV. 14, 2015 1505 COMMENTS PARIS — Three teams of Islamic State attackers acting in unison carried out the terrorist assault in Paris on Friday night, officials said Saturday,...
  • @Jonathan Revusky
    @FineSwine


    Osama didn’t need to claim responsibility for the attacks. They were an obvious re-enactment of the old ‘stoning of the devil’ ritual at Mecca, so every Muslim immediately realized the attacks were done by their people on their behalf.
     
    I never heard this one before. That's very imaginative. I think you may have just beaten out Svigor's kleenex story.

    FINESWINE TAKES THE LEAD IN THE FINAL STRETCH!!!!

    Replies: @FineSwine

    I never heard this one before. That’s very imaginative. I think you may have just beaten out Svigor’s kleenex story.

    I’m surprised that so many of the people who pontificate on this subject don’t know even basic things about Islam and Muslims.

    w.r.t. Kennedy. How popular was he at the time of his death, really? Would he have won the 1964 election? It’s hard to get a clear view of this because of all the postmortem myth-making.

  • As I pointed out in my new Taki's column, "Four Ways to Save Europe," when ¡Jeb¡ mildly suggested that American refugee efforts for Middle Easterners should be focused more on the Christians who are being slaughtered than on the Muslims doing the slaughtering, our former Muslim child President was appalled: Of course, refugee eligibility has...
  • I think these emigrants were required to pay a significant (by Russian standards) amount of money to leave, in order to pay for their educations and other freebies they received growing up in the USSR. Was this changed at some point?

    • Replies: @Karl
    @FineSwine

    >>> to pay for their educations and other freebies they received growing up in the USSR. Was this changed at some point?

    Russian Jewish emigres to Israel were cut off from their pension rights. I don't know the exact details so I will give the Russian government the benefit of the doubt that they did so based on some articulateable rationale, & in accordance with some piece of Russkie semi-transparent due process.

    What is also true is that ==just now== within the past few weeks, the Russian government agreed to - well, I don't know EXACTLY what, as the Hebrew press didn't go deeply in details - but they agreed to un-cut-off in some manner. Monies are now possible to flow. Anyone who really wants to know ought to go hangout at the coffee shops of Netanya's malls. First thing in the morning after opening, when the pastries & breads are hot out of the oven. The Russkie senior citizens are there. But hurry up, the Frogs are taking the city over.

    Every major hospital in Israel has a Russian Orthodox clergyman in the roster of chaplains. Because Russian medical tourists are THE largest single fraction of cash-customers for most Israeli hospitals. Whereas if you give treatment to an Israeli, you (the hospital) are arguing (with the Israeli insurance companies) over every centavo of payment.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  • An NYT op-ed: So, Sarkozy's party are now the "extreme right?" So, the Christian Social Union, the ruling party of Bavaria, is now the extreme right? At least the second part of his statement is true: Paris will change things. It feels like the terrorists have flung open a door and burst into a room...
  • I don’t think it’s helpful to compare the IRA and Muslim radicals. The IRA and similar groups (Basques, RAF) were at war with a specific state and generally targeted servants of that state: politicans, solders, policemen, informers, etc. The killing of ordinary civilians was normally not an objective, though it’s true they didn’t much care if bombs intended for soldiers killed nearby civilians as well. The Muslims just want to kill as many people as possible.

  • The Missouri Madness, Free Screech at Yale, Google’s disappearing white veterans, EU ministers’ disappearing Europe—what do they teach us? To adapt the title of a column I wrote three years ago: that white people are wimps. (I used a different word in Takimag, which has a more louche atmosphere.) Perhaps that’s a bit unkind, not...
  • @Reg Cæsar
    @FineSwine


    Dead children. That seems to be the red line.
     
    McVeigh didn't intend to kill children, unlike, say, Andrew Kehoe or Harry Truman. He just didn't know about them.

    A few Timothy McVeigh’s can cause a great revolution. --Tom R
     
    There were two Timothy McVeighs, remember? The other one was kicked out of the Army on the Don't Ask Don't Tell policy, because he told.

    Replies: @FineSwine

    My point was that it was the dead children in the Waco compound that led to OKC.

    This whole affair was all about children. It was claims that young girls were being raped by Koresh in the compound that enraged Janet Reno and caused her to order the assault, over the objections of people who wanted to wait out the seige. And it was the deaths of all those children in the resulting firefight and fire that enraged McVeigh and caused him to carry out his bombing.

    One thing that butch angry feminists and angry white militiamen can agree on is that violence against children is valid reason to kill.

  • Here's the beginning of my new column in Taki's Magazine [which is back up, by the way]: Four Ways to Save Europe by Steve Sailer November 18, 2015 Last week, America’s institutions of higher learning were in turmoil over Halloween costumes. How can minority students survive Yale if their diktats are ever subjected to skepticism...
  • I don’t think people understand how these things work. If these atrocities continue the choice won’t be collective punishment or no collective punishment, but whether this punishment is administered by the state in a relatively disciplined and restrained manner, or administered by the general public in an undisciplined and unrestrained manner.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  • Collective punishment won’t happen because Nazis. (Obviously not an issue for Israel.)

  • In the comments at Marginal Revolution, commenter dux.ie looks at PISA scores for natives, first generation immigrants, and second generation immigrants: dux.ie November 17, 2015 at 8:30 pm There is another angle to be considered. The second gen immigrants are born locally and many such as the paper cited used the equality of outcomes as...
  • I assume that for historical reasons Belgium got a lot of Congolese immigrants, who are not very bright. They’re not Muslims though so this is probably a red herring. The relative militancy of Belgian Muslims probably has more to do with the weakness of the state. Nobody is afraid of the Belgian government.

  • This sounds really bad. I'm guessing from the scale that these are probably Islamist attacks rather than a Breivik-like lone wolf. Traditionally, this is the point at which I say things like When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging; Invade Invite; and That's what separate countries are for. But I've been saying that...
  • @AKAHorace
    @Anonym

    A lot of people on the other side may be well meaning. We need to end mass immigration, but our main problem is that a lot of people (imagine social workers, nurses or teachers) who should be sympathetic to our viewpoint think that we are a bunch of fascists. There is a problem in that a well meaning elite has been over confident, has seen the basic health of European societies as proof that they were doing something right. We need to let them back down with a minimal loss of face. This is a cowardly but political solution that would avoid revolutions which generally involve unfortunate losses for everyone. I would hope that similar forgiveness could apply to premature anti mass immagrationists.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Demon for Truth, @FineSwine

    They’re not going to go away without a fight. The problem is that this egalitarian cult has become a substitute religion for them, and they’re no more amenable to reason than any other devout believer. Your moderation is comendable but I don’t see a happy ending to this.

  • An NYT op-ed: So, Sarkozy's party are now the "extreme right?" So, the Christian Social Union, the ruling party of Bavaria, is now the extreme right? At least the second part of his statement is true: Paris will change things. It feels like the terrorists have flung open a door and burst into a room...
  • Could you have “shamed” the Klan in the 1870s or the Nazis in the 1920s? That would have been difficult to do since their views were mainstream among their respective populations. You’ll have similar difficulty trying to “shame” radical Islamic movements today for the same reason.

  • From the NYT: Three Teams of Coordinated Attackers Carried Out Assault on Paris, Officials Say; Hollande Blames ISIS By ADAM NOSSITER, AURELIEN BREEDEN and KATRIN BENNHOLD NOV. 14, 2015 1505 COMMENTS PARIS — Three teams of Islamic State attackers acting in unison carried out the terrorist assault in Paris on Friday night, officials said Saturday,...
  • @Ron Unz
    Well, I'm certainly no expert on 9/11, but here are another couple of points that have sometimes bothered me...

    By any standards, the 9/11 attacks were the most successful terrorist action in the history of the world, maybe 100x more successful than anything before. Therefore, I was quite surprised to discover a couple of years ago that shortly after the 9/11 attacks, Osama bin Laden was interviewed by the arab media and publicly denied having had anything to do with the attacks.

    When was the last time a terrorist leader denied responsibility for having committed the most successful terrorist attack in the history of the world? Why bother committing terrorist attacks if you aren't even willing to take credit for them?

    Here's another strange item. Remember those DC snipers who spent a few weeks randomly shooting people in the DC area around 2002? There was a gigantic panic among the DC elites, and absolutely all efforts were made to catch the deadly fiends. Despite the fact that the "terrorists" turned out to be a couple of broke, semi-incompetent black Muslim radicals, with no resources, the manhunt was almost completely unsuccessful, and all the public details of the suspects turned out to be wrong. As I recall, the killers were really annoyed that the police kept ignoring all their phone calls taking responsibility for the attacks, and kept calling and calling with more and more details until they were finally caught.

    Given how totally incompetent the police were in catching *actual* real-life "terrorists" isn't it a little odd that within just hours of the gigantic WTC attacks the government had been able to give the media so many of the precise details of the attacks and the culprits, soon followed by the exact names of all the attackers and exactly how the attack was organized and committed? And that's *without* any public claim of responsibility, since Osama was so "modest" that he publicly denied having committed the most successful terrorist attack in history.

    Offhand, it almost sounds like at least a few people in the government had all the exact details of the plot worked out beforehand and ready to release to an eagerly awaiting MSM?

    Replies: @FineSwine, @Mr. Anon

    Osama didn’t need to claim responsibility for the attacks. They were an obvious re-enactment of the old ‘stoning of the devil’ ritual at Mecca, so every Muslim immediately realized the attacks were done by their people on their behalf. That was the important thing.

    As for the DC snipers, IIRC the problem there was that the police chief in charge of the investigation was convinced that the shooters were ‘white racists’, and deliberately misdirected the search in pursuit of this obsession.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Revusky
    @FineSwine


    Osama didn’t need to claim responsibility for the attacks. They were an obvious re-enactment of the old ‘stoning of the devil’ ritual at Mecca, so every Muslim immediately realized the attacks were done by their people on their behalf.
     
    I never heard this one before. That's very imaginative. I think you may have just beaten out Svigor's kleenex story.

    FINESWINE TAKES THE LEAD IN THE FINAL STRETCH!!!!

    Replies: @FineSwine

  • Conspiracies (like terrorism) are a weapon of the weak against the strong. If you can’t get what you want by force, you get it by scheming and intrigue. Conspiratorial people are also good at spotting conspiracies by others. The problems begin when such people begin to see conspiracies where none actually exist. A conspiratorial mentality detached from common sense is like a balloon without ballast.

  • The Missouri Madness, Free Screech at Yale, Google’s disappearing white veterans, EU ministers’ disappearing Europe—what do they teach us? To adapt the title of a column I wrote three years ago: that white people are wimps. (I used a different word in Takimag, which has a more louche atmosphere.) Perhaps that’s a bit unkind, not...
  • Soros is an interesting figure. I remember about the time of the Iraq invasion he provoked a storm of protest by claiming that anti-Semitism is the result of Jewish behavior. He seems to have kept quiet about the issue since then.

  • After you’re through watching that video With Open Gates that James posted, take a stroll on the globalist side of the street to see how it looks to them. There is of course no better guide to the globalist mentality than The Economist. This week they have surpassed themselves. The cover story is a celebration...
  • It appears that at least one of the Paris attackers is a ‘Merkel youth’. In other words, the Germans have French blood on their hands. I can just imagine the conversations that are going on right now between German and French officials. This isn’t going to kill the EU but it will kill Schengen. Expect these ‘temporary’ French border controls to be around for a long time.

  • A couple of stories from the NYT: And I like the "even" in that sentence. So far, it is mostly talk. But in
  • @Wilkey
    “Those who organized these attacks, and those who carried them out, are exactly those who the refugees are fleeing”

    This is the new arguing point of the open borders whackjobs, and they're sticking with it. There's basically the same quote going around on Twitter from Dan Holloway (@RFCDan) with 78,000 retweets. To them I guess it's deep, or something.

    My response: "And pretty soon these will be the people we are fleeing, as well."

    Actually we won't be. We have nowhere to flee to. What will happen is widespread violent reaction. Muslims are on their last invasion, invading the only countries dumb enough to take them in without a fight - white, Western ones.

    Replies: @greysquirrell, @FineSwine

    “Those who organized these attacks, and those who carried them out, are exactly those who the refugees are fleeing”

    They were safe in Turkey. If they had stayed in Turkey they would still be safe. By moving to Europe they have endangered Europeans without making themselves any safer.

  • The Missouri Madness, Free Screech at Yale, Google’s disappearing white veterans, EU ministers’ disappearing Europe—what do they teach us? To adapt the title of a column I wrote three years ago: that white people are wimps. (I used a different word in Takimag, which has a more louche atmosphere.) Perhaps that’s a bit unkind, not...
  • @Tom_R
    WHAT IF WHITES STOPPED BEING WIMPS? THEY CAN CHANGE THE WORLD.
    HOW WHITES CAN GET THEIR MOJO BACK.

    Thanks for the great article, Sir. You have gone to the root of the problem of white extinction and 3rd world immigration—whites are wimps. I would even go so far as to say whites are mentally retarded or mentally ill, to vote for alienists like Blair, Merkel, Reid, etc. instead of BNP, La Pen, Golden Dawn, etc. If whites had voted for rightist parties, there would be in immigration today and whites countries would be white countries, free of aliens. There would be no 9/11, no London train bombings, no Paris attacks, etc. But I will settle for calling them “wimps.”

    So how can whites get their mojo back?

    There are several ways, such as getting out of the African cult of Christianity, which turned whites into sheep and caused a disease called “pathological altruism”, etc.

    Another way is for a few white leaders to rise using one of the 3 approaches:

    a. Speak out and fight back, even if it means losing your job or your career. It is better to be a poor white nationalist than a rich globalist or a rich brown-nosing global alienist. And if they fire you, keep fighting back twice as hard.

    Many institutions would collapse, the US army would evaporate, and USA would become the laughing stock of the world if whites rebelled en-masse and went on strikes, got out of the army, etc.

    b. Some white nationalists who fight could be framed or even imprisoned, say, if they were to incite rebellion, like the little old lady in Germany who questioned the holohoax. That is the price some may have to pay. Yes, but remember:

    “Stone walls do not a prison make, nor iron bars a cage.”

    They DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH space in prison, nor enough prosecutors, for all the white nationalists who may choose to rebel, such as inciting rebellion or mutiny or encourage the army to do their job to protect the nation and the public and get rid of Merkel and/or other traitors.

    Being in prison trying to save your country beats being bombed by aliens in an attack by Muslims like in Paris.

    c. Timothy McVeigh as a hero. A few Timothy McVeigh's can cause a great revolution.

    Replies: @FineSwine

    c. Timothy McVeigh as a hero. A few Timothy McVeigh’s can cause a great revolution.

    Dead children. That seems to be the red line. It’s the only thing that still seems to provoke a violent reaction.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @FineSwine


    Dead children. That seems to be the red line.
     
    McVeigh didn't intend to kill children, unlike, say, Andrew Kehoe or Harry Truman. He just didn't know about them.

    A few Timothy McVeigh’s can cause a great revolution. --Tom R
     
    There were two Timothy McVeighs, remember? The other one was kicked out of the Army on the Don't Ask Don't Tell policy, because he told.

    Replies: @FineSwine

  • After you’re through watching that video With Open Gates that James posted, take a stroll on the globalist side of the street to see how it looks to them. There is of course no better guide to the globalist mentality than The Economist. This week they have surpassed themselves. The cover story is a celebration...
  • The Franco/German alliance has always been the foundation of the EU. A a few peripheral states may leave, but but so long as France and Germany remain devoted to the project it will remain a force to be reckoned with.

    However one of the most important EU trends of the last 20 years has been the decline of French power within the EU. The alliance used to be one of equals, and no German chancellor would dare make a big decision (e.g. invite a million Arabs into the EU) without first consulting with Paris. Those days are long gone, and now France finds itself pulled along behind Germany with no say in the matter no different to Hungary or Poland.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @FineSwine

    Read the Simms piece, France does not want to be left be in the EU as Germany's girlfriend. France needs the UK in the EU as a counterweight to German power. If Britain left the EU, France would have to bail out too.

    In my opinion an important factor in Merkel's decision is that by asserting its power through an anti nationalist stance to the immigration crisis Germany is wrong footing French and British objections. They can't call her Hitler for accepting millions of immigrants. It is a soft power Verdun because though Germany sufferers they calculate the attrition of France and Britain's traditional fears of German preponderance will be worth it. This is a new kind of German dominance.

  • ‘Ramp’ is an archaic term for scam/swindle/trick.

  • Blogger Sendil has kindly sent along a table he or she made from Center for Disease Control data on the change in death rates among whites (both sexes) age 45-54 by state between 1999 and 2013. It looks like it correlates with white drugs (opioids, meth), obesity, smoking, and low real estate prices (i.e., expensive...
  • @WGG
    Smoking is an interesting angle. From casual observation I have noticed that whites have quit smoking in droves. If you do see a white person smoking, all the other whites are silently judging and shaming him. If a white person smells like cigarette smoke, he might as well have a crack pipe in peeking out from his shirt pocket.

    The blacks and Hispanics seem like they smoke at the same or similar rates that they always did.

    Quitting smoking leads to obesity- full stop. Do never-smoked non-smokers have higher rates of obesity than smokers? I don't know, but probably. Is smoking worse than obesity? Don't expect an honest answer after the lawyers and government have declared victory over Tobacco and picked its carcass clean.

    I am a long-since-quit-ex-smoker who has fully embraced the dividing classist line between those who partake and those who do not. I have no agenda to promote tobacco. But people who got lung cancer from smoking usually got it in their 60's, and I've only known one person die from it. People who get problems from obesity have heart, vessel, and endocrine trouble starting in their 40's, and I know a whole lot of them.

    Replies: @FineSwine, @CJ, @NOTA

    Quitting smoking leads to obesity- full stop. Do never-smoked non-smokers have higher rates of obesity than smokers? I don’t know, but probably. Is smoking worse than obesity? Don’t expect an honest answer after the lawyers and government have declared victory over Tobacco and picked its carcass clean.

    Yes, the downsides of non-smoking need study, but don’t expect it to happen anytime soon. No doctor or scientist is going to touch this for a long time yet.

  • One of the more curious aspects of the coverage of "Europe's migrant crisis" is the apparent assumption that Europe couldn't possibly do anything to keep Asians and Africans from crossing the Mediterranean because that would require naval forces, and whoever heard of Europe having boats in the water? But European navies not only exist, they...
  • @Stan D Mute
    @FineSwine


    The obvious difference is that nobody cares if pirates are killed or imprisoned. Unarmed civilians are another matter.
     
    Who says they're unarmed? And if they are, at that moment, how do we know they'll remain so? An ordinary kitchen knife, piece of wood, lead pipe, etc, are all potentially deadly weapons. Is a Swedish prison worse than being poor in Somalia? Of course prison only comes if you're caught. And sometimes not even then.

    Everyone is big on "compassion" for these criminal invaders. Right up until your wife or daughter is gang-raped or your son brutally beaten to death. Then it's, "why didn't the government protect us?" If you aren't man enough to do what must be done to protect your family then just sit down and shut up - let the real men do the dirty work of stopping the invasion with minimal damage and cost to the citizens. It really is just that simple.

    Replies: @Kat Grey, @FineSwine

    Grab a weapon and go confront these invaders and see what happens when things turn violent. YOU will be the one arrested and punished. You won’t have public support behind you. This is the basic problem.

    Most people are driven by emotion not reason. You can lecture them all you like about history, demographics, crime stats, and the like – you may even get them to nod along in agreement for a while – but the moment they see a dead child bobbing in the water, it’ll all fly out of their heads and they’ll begin keening and wringing their hands and demanding to LET THEM ALL IN NOW.

    If you know a way of changing this I’d like to hear it.

  • From the Washington Post:
  • @Eric Rasmusen
    When I was at Yale in the late 70's, these outrages would have stimulated a conservative student response--- a counterdemonstration, posters, etc.--- and we would have relished the fight. I know Yale has conservative student organizations--- the Conservatives, Tories, and Party of the Right, last time I looked a few years ago. Are they doing anything?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @FineSwine

    From what I’ve seen of this Christakis guy, he would react with horror at any declaration of support from conservatives. In fact, he would probably join with his persecutors to denouce such ‘supporters’.

    • Replies: @WhatEvvs
    @FineSwine

    Yep. I checked out his twitter feed and he took pains to exonerate the b*tch who screeched at him. It kind of hardened my heart a bit, but I still feel sorry about the whole thing. Not for him, just about the whole situation.

    BTW, I can no longer edit my comments. Did they take that out?

  • From the AP: UNIVERSITY OF MISSOURI PRESIDENT LEAVES OVER RACE COMPLAINTS BY SUMMER BALLENTINE AND ALAN SCHER ZAGIER ASSOCIATED PRESS COLUMBIA, Mo. (AP) -- The president of the University of Missouri system resigned Monday with the football team and others on campus in open revolt over his handling of racial tensions at the school. President...
  • @Jim Don Bob
    Heather Mac Donald on the latest insanity: http://www.city-journal.org/2015/eon1109hm.html

    I have little sympathy for the universities. They have sown the wind for the past thirty years with all this race/class/sex crap, but now seem surprised that the whirlwind is coming around on them.

    Replies: @FineSwine

    That’s right. They’re being consumed by a fire that they started. They deserve no sympathy.

    On the contrary, the ultimate objective of this racial agitation seems to be to drive all white male liberals out of academia. This will be a colossal self-inflicted wound by the left. Don’t interrupt your enemy when he’s making a mistake.

  • From the Washington Post:
  • @Bettega
    @TangoMan

    If conservatives are smart they will let the Cultural Revolution happening right now to run it's full course and discredit the left so much that they won't have another chance in 50 years. As they should have done in the 1960s instead of electing Nixon, who saved the left from itself if only by giving them someone else to hate.

    Replies: @Thea, @FineSwine

    Yes these people are destroying themselves. We should all just stand back and enjoy the show.

  • From the translation in Gates of Vienna of an interview with Thilo Sarrazin, German central banker and author of the 2011 mega-seller Germany Abolishes Itself. The translated interview from Die Zeit: Thilo Sarrazin: “You Are Welcome to Ask Me What I Would Do if I Were Head of Frontex”[1] Interview with Thilo Sarrazin by Tina...
  • @The Undiscovered Jew
    @FineSwine

    Australia is in a delicate position because of its large volume of trade with Asian countries. Denmark could get away with banning Afro/Asian immigration after 9/11 because its foreign trade is overwhelmingly with neighboring European countries, so there was no danger of annoying important trade partners. But if Australia were to do the same there would be serious diplomatic and economic consequences.

    Asians will do nothing about it. They have, anyway, no standing to complain seeing how they all maintain extensive trade relations with themselves while maintaining strict immigration policies of their own against other Asians, to say nothing of non-Asian immigration.

    Where's the economic harm in limiting citizenship to white Australians while giving out, within reason, business visas to Chinese executives, Japanese tourists, and Taiwanese manufacturers. What I've described is effectively their own immigration policy; limit citizenship by ethnicity but keep commercial relations open.

    The only thing holding back White Australia (you were right the first time, Mates) is white Australia's willpower.

    Replies: @FineSwine

    Back when Mahathir Mohammed was running Malaysia, and serving as unoffical spokesman for the southeast Asian countries, he made the connection between trade and immigration explicit: if Australians wanted to join Asian regional trade organisations then Australia would have to have more Asian immigration.

    This is why the Australian political/business elite reacted with such fury to Pauline Hanson and her campaign against Asian immigration: she was jeopardising a lot of valuable trade deals.

  • In April 2014, ESPN published a photograph of an unlikely duo: Samantha Power, U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, and former national security adviser and secretary of state Henry Kissinger at the Yankees-Red Sox season opener. In fleece jackets on a crisp spring day, they were visibly enjoying each other’s company, looking for all the...
  • If Nixon had tried to suddenly pull all 500,000 Americans out of Vietnam in 1969, the U.S. would have found itself at war with South Vietnam as well as the North.

  • I know, it's been a week since Halloween, but they're just getting warmed up at Yale U., where hundreds of students are demanding that a professor (the silver-haired man in the blue shirt who is getting screamed at in the video) denounce his wife for her not taking seriously an email from Yale's Diversity Nook...
  • @donkeypunch
    I see my comment isn't being approved oh welp
    The short story of it is that there is a program to get rid of straight white non-Jewish guys in these schools. But this isn't so much in favor of blacks or even other non-Azn minorities, but in favor mostly of girls. There are blacks there, there are third world minorities of all kinds, and they're all generally bad, but they're few. There are, though, a lot of white girls, and they're also very bad. I don't care what test scores like SAT say. These girls can't put a few sentences together and have generally no ability to think non-emotionally. They are the most consistent promoters of PC. White (and Jewish) girls are the biggest beneficiaries of affirmative action, I mean in terms of number.

    Replies: @FineSwine, @Clyde, @oh its just me

    That’s an interesting observation which puts the racial issue into perspective. The push to get women into these institutions preceded the push to get minorities in. I think a numerical majority of college students now are female?

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @FineSwine


    I think a numerical majority of college students now are female?
     
    as far as female lawyers go:

    Nov 10, 2011
    Women make up 47 percent of first- and second-year associates, down from 48 percent in prior years, according to a NAWL survey of the nation’s 200 largest law firms.

    In 2009-10, women made up about 47 percent of the law school population and 45.9 percent of all law school graduates.
    http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/have_womens_law_school_numbers_peaked_nawl_report_suggests_the_pipeline_is_/
     
  • From the translation in Gates of Vienna of an interview with Thilo Sarrazin, German central banker and author of the 2011 mega-seller Germany Abolishes Itself. The translated interview from Die Zeit: Thilo Sarrazin: “You Are Welcome to Ask Me What I Would Do if I Were Head of Frontex”[1] Interview with Thilo Sarrazin by Tina...
  • @Bill B.
    @FineSwine

    The requirement is only to be firm, not ruthless. The Vietnamese boat people were in dire straits; the current mob of welfare invaders are voluntarily taking a modest gamble.

    The incredibly weak posture of Europe has sent out a massive signal to the third world. Suckers be here!

    Much of workable life in the world revolves around the idea that those who cross forbidden frontiers - virtual or otherwise - will be punished somehow. To wilfully allow or even encourage the collapsing of this fundamental understanding is to invite disaster.

    The world's most fecund civilisation must be put in jeopardy because press photographers might find another drowned child? If these people were taking joy trips around the Med in their overcrowded boats you would stop them; but when it comes to a cold, calculated and in many cases ill intentioned invasion your hands are tied?

    Replies: @FineSwine

    For this to work it would have to be done quietly – out of sight and hearing – of the general population. The media would have to be on board with the project. There must be no public scandal (e.g. hysterical women shrieking and tearing their clothes in full view of the world.) In other words, conspiratorial methods. Ideally this process should be completely invisible except to the people carrying it out.

  • How will the mass invasions of European or European-founded nations by the wretched refuse of the Third World’s teeming shores work out? I see five scenarios: Scenario One: Absorption. All will be well. The migrants, in whatever numbers choose to come, will enrich and energize our tired, aging societies. They will take on our liberal...
  • The future will be the past. The Pale of Settlement is still (just) in living memory. This will return. Unassimilable racial/religious minorities will be required to live in specific geographic areas and be subject to legal penalties and disabilities if they leave them. This is how European countries practiced “multi-culturalism” for a thousand years, and it’s how they’ll handle it again in future.

  • From Amazon: Hive Mind: How Your Nation’s IQ Matters So Much More Than Your Own – November 11, 2015 by Garett Jones Kindle $16.17 Hardcover $21.11 Over the last few decades, economists and psychologists have quietly documented the many ways in which a person's IQ matters. But, research suggests that a nation's IQ matters so...
  • @istevefan
    @Ezra

    no, it was the son of a German-American woman who put the hurt on Sony.

    Replies: @FineSwine, @tbraton, @Anonym

    Sony hurt itself by getting involved in movies and music and neglecting its core tech business. Do one thing well.

  • One of the more curious aspects of the coverage of "Europe's migrant crisis" is the apparent assumption that Europe couldn't possibly do anything to keep Asians and Africans from crossing the Mediterranean because that would require naval forces, and whoever heard of Europe having boats in the water? But European navies not only exist, they...
  • The obvious difference is that nobody cares if pirates are killed or imprisoned. Unarmed civilians are another matter.

    • Replies: @Stan D Mute
    @FineSwine


    The obvious difference is that nobody cares if pirates are killed or imprisoned. Unarmed civilians are another matter.
     
    Who says they're unarmed? And if they are, at that moment, how do we know they'll remain so? An ordinary kitchen knife, piece of wood, lead pipe, etc, are all potentially deadly weapons. Is a Swedish prison worse than being poor in Somalia? Of course prison only comes if you're caught. And sometimes not even then.

    Everyone is big on "compassion" for these criminal invaders. Right up until your wife or daughter is gang-raped or your son brutally beaten to death. Then it's, "why didn't the government protect us?" If you aren't man enough to do what must be done to protect your family then just sit down and shut up - let the real men do the dirty work of stopping the invasion with minimal damage and cost to the citizens. It really is just that simple.

    Replies: @Kat Grey, @FineSwine

  • The New York Times continues its campaign to grease the skids under urban blacks so that there is nothing to dissuade inner city blacks from moving out to various nowheresvilles, such as Inkster, MI. Hopefully not. Though the history of discrimination and segregation looms large over American policing, many police chiefs are eager to hire...
  • @Clyde
    @JohnnyWalker123

    You omitted the major fact that there simply are not enough fires to fight anymore for most fire departments. Smoke detectors, constant preaching about safety, sending firefighters out on more inspections which translates into fire prevention, better building codes etc. Take a Brooklyn NY fire department. My guess it has at most 10% the number of fires to take care of compared to 30-45 years ago. Same for San Jose you mention. But the public is unaware of this great decrease.
    With today's 911 systems fires get phoned in immediately, fires get quicker responses so create less damage. Fewer catastrophic ones to read about.

    Another major innovation (last 30 years) is most fire departments also do EMT which traditionally was looked down on as being "gay" compared to fighting fires. If they hadn't they would not have been able to avoid layoffs. My fire department does both. And boy you should see the EMT vehicles. They are three times the size of a normal van type ambulance. All the usual greenie BS was canned when these babies were purchased. But its still a scam. They are over staffed and don't have enough to do.
    With some post 911 funding (state? Fed? local) a new larger firehouse/command center was built complete with jogging paths out back. It is fully equipped for emergency response in case of terrorism or an asteroid hits nearby.

    Its seems the nations fire departments have chilled on the BBQ and chili cook offs with other departments. It might give the local taxpayers evil ideas such as, "These taxpayer funded guys seem to have lots of time on their hands". My nearest firehouse was rehabbed after 25 years. Shoddy construction by connected contractors. But prior to this they often had the fire truck bay doors open. So you would see the fire trucks and sure enough a weight bench next to it. Fire fighter guyzz like to workout during downtime. I have never seen one with a potbelly.
    Since being rebuilt, I suppose with state of the art climate control, the bay doors are kept shut.

    Being a firefighter was a marginally better gig than being a policeman. With all the recent black lives matter crapola and all the phone cameras getting them on video, being a fireman is now safer and twice as desirable as being a cop.

    Replies: @FineSwine, @Brutusale

    The decline of smoking is probably the biggest reason for fewer fires.

    (OT but I wonder why the social decline of smoking has been accompanied by an increase in asthma and allergies? You’d expect the opposite trend.)

  • From the translation in Gates of Vienna of an interview with Thilo Sarrazin, German central banker and author of the 2011 mega-seller Germany Abolishes Itself. The translated interview from Die Zeit: Thilo Sarrazin: “You Are Welcome to Ask Me What I Would Do if I Were Head of Frontex”[1] Interview with Thilo Sarrazin by Tina...
  • @The Undiscovered Jew
    @Wizard of Oz

    That’s silly stuff or are you some kind of troll. Obviously the White Australia policy (attenuated after WW2 and abandoned about 1966) is not going to be restored. More, all but deadbeat underclass and a few elderly people who carry on about Chinese purchases of real estate (actually restricted largely to new buildings) understand that Australia is doing very well out of the high quality immigration it has been and is getting from Asia.

    I'm quite serious. Asians are not culturally interchangeable with whites because culture is inseparable from and based upon the inherent, varying, racial characteristics and abilities of each race: An Australian city of 90% Australian born Asians and 10% white Australians would never be culturally Australian; a city of 90% Australian born Poles and 10% Anglo Australians would be. If you had to choose between residing in one of those cities you would surely choose the city that's 90% ethnic Polish, no?

    As for political feasibility, the West's diversity regime is flying to pieces, everywhere. When it eventually collapses I see no reason why White Australia couldn't be revived.

    And why so sure only the underclass and elderly oppose Asian immigration? Polls show white Australians are still dissatisfied with legal immigration and want reductions to it. If Australia were importing whites there certainly would not be as much opposition to legal immigration.

    Replies: @FineSwine

    Australia is in a delicate position because of its large volume of trade with Asian countries. Denmark could get away with banning Afro/Asian immigration after 9/11 because its foreign trade is overwhelmingly with neighboring European countries, so there was no danger of annoying important trade partners. But if Australia were to do the same there would be serious diplomatic and economic consequences.

    • Replies: @The Undiscovered Jew
    @FineSwine

    Australia is in a delicate position because of its large volume of trade with Asian countries. Denmark could get away with banning Afro/Asian immigration after 9/11 because its foreign trade is overwhelmingly with neighboring European countries, so there was no danger of annoying important trade partners. But if Australia were to do the same there would be serious diplomatic and economic consequences.

    Asians will do nothing about it. They have, anyway, no standing to complain seeing how they all maintain extensive trade relations with themselves while maintaining strict immigration policies of their own against other Asians, to say nothing of non-Asian immigration.

    Where's the economic harm in limiting citizenship to white Australians while giving out, within reason, business visas to Chinese executives, Japanese tourists, and Taiwanese manufacturers. What I've described is effectively their own immigration policy; limit citizenship by ethnicity but keep commercial relations open.

    The only thing holding back White Australia (you were right the first time, Mates) is white Australia's willpower.

    Replies: @FineSwine

  • @Bill B.
    @FineSwine

    You are talking nonsense. The Med is relatively tame, the distances short. The requirement is to be prepared to be, in global, historic terms, just a little bit tough.

    Lee Kwan Yew simply pushed refugee boats from Vietnam away when they were in much, much worse circumstances. This is in fact very close to the attitude towards migrants in the non-western world.

    Lee himself said:

    "In the weeks before Saigon fell, a huge armada of small boats and ships packed with refugees set out across the South China Sea, many headed for Singapore... I signalled that we should refuse them landing and get them to move on to countries with more space to receive them. A massive exercise started on 6 May. The Singapore Armed Forces repaired, refitted, reprovisioned, and sent out to sea a total of 64 vessels carrying more than 8,000 refugees. Many of the captains of these vessels had deliberately disabled their engines to avoid being sent off."

    Replies: @FineSwine

    East Asians aren’t Europeans. They have a completely different attitude to these things. Scenes on TV of refugees (especially children) drowning or in chains will cause a storm of controversy in Europe.

    • Replies: @Discard
    @FineSwine

    As if flooding their countries with foreigners would not cause controversy.

    , @Bill B.
    @FineSwine

    The requirement is only to be firm, not ruthless. The Vietnamese boat people were in dire straits; the current mob of welfare invaders are voluntarily taking a modest gamble.

    The incredibly weak posture of Europe has sent out a massive signal to the third world. Suckers be here!

    Much of workable life in the world revolves around the idea that those who cross forbidden frontiers - virtual or otherwise - will be punished somehow. To wilfully allow or even encourage the collapsing of this fundamental understanding is to invite disaster.

    The world's most fecund civilisation must be put in jeopardy because press photographers might find another drowned child? If these people were taking joy trips around the Med in their overcrowded boats you would stop them; but when it comes to a cold, calculated and in many cases ill intentioned invasion your hands are tied?

    Replies: @FineSwine

  • The quality of mainstream respectable thinking on immigration is so lowbrow that we frequently witness the phenomenon of op0eds that could well be trolling, but, depressingly, probably are really just as stupid as they appear to be. For example, from the New York Times: Decimation? Slavery? Crucifixion? Feeding to the lions? World conquest? Galleys? The...
  • @Jim Don Bob
    @Romanian

    Islam also tells its followers that it is the superior way. Yet they see that everything they have, from cell phones to the makings of IEDs to AK-47s, comes from the Dar al-Harab world of the infidel.

    Psychologists call this cognitive dissonance. Their religion cannot be untrue; the rest of the world must be wrong. It is especially pronounced among the educated Muslims who have lived and studied in the West, .e.g., Mohammed Atta.

    Replies: @Lagertha, @Romanian, @FineSwine

    Muslims believe that all that’s good about western society (including science and technology) has Islamic origins, while all that’s bad is uniquely western. So there’s no ‘cognitive dissonance’. The failures of their countries are attributed to insufficient devotion to Islam.

  • From the translation in Gates of Vienna of an interview with Thilo Sarrazin, German central banker and author of the 2011 mega-seller Germany Abolishes Itself. The translated interview from Die Zeit: Thilo Sarrazin: “You Are Welcome to Ask Me What I Would Do if I Were Head of Frontex”[1] Interview with Thilo Sarrazin by Tina...
  • @Bill Jones
    @FineSwine

    Nothing.

    To scuttle a boat is an act of suicide.
    Why interfere?

    Replies: @FineSwine

    “Fish them out of the water and return them to the Libyan coast.”?

    This will work if there are 20 people in the boat, but what if there are 200? What if there are children among them? You will have dead people on your hands. Are you going to chain the survivors (like slaves!) to stop them jumping again? How will that look on TV?

    To scuttle a boat is an act of suicide. Why interfere?

    Any naval officer who does this will become a social pariah. He and his family may even be attacked. There may also be serious legal/professional consequences, especially if a left-wing govenment subsequently wins power and decides to make a political issue out of the incident.

    • Replies: @newrouter
    @FineSwine

    "This will work if there are 20 people in the boat, but what if there are 200? What if there are children among them? You will have dead people on your hands. Are you going to chain the survivors (like slaves!) to stop them jumping again? How will that look on TV?"

    oh very good if you want to send a message to the masses of the world that the invasion will be stopped with violence directed at those invading.

    , @ben tillman
    @FineSwine


    Any naval officer who does this will become a social pariah. He and his family may even be attacked.
     
    He'd be a hero. Everyone believes in borders, at least for their own country.
    , @Bill B.
    @FineSwine

    You are talking nonsense. The Med is relatively tame, the distances short. The requirement is to be prepared to be, in global, historic terms, just a little bit tough.

    Lee Kwan Yew simply pushed refugee boats from Vietnam away when they were in much, much worse circumstances. This is in fact very close to the attitude towards migrants in the non-western world.

    Lee himself said:

    "In the weeks before Saigon fell, a huge armada of small boats and ships packed with refugees set out across the South China Sea, many headed for Singapore... I signalled that we should refuse them landing and get them to move on to countries with more space to receive them. A massive exercise started on 6 May. The Singapore Armed Forces repaired, refitted, reprovisioned, and sent out to sea a total of 64 vessels carrying more than 8,000 refugees. Many of the captains of these vessels had deliberately disabled their engines to avoid being sent off."

    Replies: @FineSwine

    , @Hippopotamusdrome
    @FineSwine

    This will work if there are 20 people in the boat, but what if there are 200?

     

    Then you're gonna need a bigger boat. Oh, here's one now, in the area for the express purpose of transporting migrants (in the wrong direction).

    U.S. Navy Ships Bataan and Elrod Rescue 282 Persons from Sinking Vessel in Mediterranean Sea

     

    Raw: Migrant Boat Capsizes, Hundreds Rescued
    ..
    Nearly 400 migrants have been rescued and 25 bodies recovered after a fishing boat carrying an estimated 600 capsized today in the Mediterranean Sea north of Libya, an Italian Coast Guard official said. (Aug. 5)

     

    , @Hippopotamusdrome
    @FineSwine

    but what if there are 200?

     

    We scoop up 5 boatloads per trip.

    British navy brings 900 migrants ashore in Italy
    Some 900 migrants rescued from boats in the Mediterranean are brought to southern Italy's Taranto by the British Navy ship HMS Bulwark

     

    Replies: @Kat Grey

  • From the NYT: Britons Perturbed by a Troubling Shortage of Curry Chefs By KIMIKO DE FREYTAS-TAMURA NOV. 4, 2015 ... But the curry industry has found itself in a pickle: There are not enough curry chefs in Britain. The Conservative government’s restrictions on immigration are causing an acute staff shortage, said Shahanoor Khan, the secretary...
  • As others have mentioned, the British were eating curry long before there were Indians in Britain to cook it, not because it was ‘vibrant’ and ‘exotic’ but because hot spices are a food preservative, which was a big deal in the time before modern refrigeration.

  • I know, it's been a week since Halloween, but they're just getting warmed up at Yale U., where hundreds of students are demanding that a professor (the silver-haired man in the blue shirt who is getting screamed at in the video) denounce his wife for her not taking seriously an email from Yale's Diversity Nook...
  • This is like watching exotic bugs devouring each other in a petri dish. What a strange world these creatures inhabit.

  • From the Washington Post: LONDON — The European Union predicted Thursday that up to 3 million additional asylum seekers could enter the 28-member bloc by the end of next year, suggesting the staggering pace of new arrivals in recent months shows no sign of abating. The forecast, buried in a 204-page report on the future...
  • @Anonymous
    @FineSwine

    Not really my point at all.

    Thank god that John Major 'negotiated' an opt-out from the Schengen arrangement back in the day. Of course he only did this due to pressure from eurosceptic back bench MPs.
    Anyhow, if Britain was in Schengen, rest assured that millions of 'migrants' would now have set foot there.

    Replies: @FineSwine

    That’s true, though it will count for nothing when these millions of ‘Syrians’ get their German citizenship and are free to move wherever they like.

    Leaving the EU will only solve part of the problem though. It won’t address the issue of family chain migration, and because of the ethnic vote no mainstream political party is likely to touch the issue. It also won’t address the 1951 refugee convention, which theoretically gives half a billion people right of residence in Britain if they can just get on a plane and go there.

  • From the translation in Gates of Vienna of an interview with Thilo Sarrazin, German central banker and author of the 2011 mega-seller Germany Abolishes Itself. The translated interview from Die Zeit: Thilo Sarrazin: “You Are Welcome to Ask Me What I Would Do if I Were Head of Frontex”[1] Interview with Thilo Sarrazin by Tina...
  • Thilo Sarrazin: I would capture every ship. Even if it were a not merchant ship, I would set its passengers ashore at the exact spot on the African coast where they started and destroy the boat. You may be sure — after six weeks, no more of them would start out and there will be no more boat refugees.

    They will scuttle their boats and jump in the water. What do you do then?

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    @FineSwine

    Their choice. Sail away.

    , @MartinGale
    @FineSwine

    Alex, "I'll take obvious solutions to non-existing problems for $100."

    Your Jeopardy answer is:

    "If we try to stop the migrants, they will scuttle their boats and jump into the water."

    What is, "Fish them out of the water and return them to the Libyan coast."?

    Is right!

    , @Bill Jones
    @FineSwine

    Nothing.

    To scuttle a boat is an act of suicide.
    Why interfere?

    Replies: @FineSwine

    , @Mark Eugenikos
    @FineSwine

    Let them swim.

    , @Former Darfur
    @FineSwine

    Chum the water.

    Replies: @tbraton

  • From the Washington Post: LONDON — The European Union predicted Thursday that up to 3 million additional asylum seekers could enter the 28-member bloc by the end of next year, suggesting the staggering pace of new arrivals in recent months shows no sign of abating. The forecast, buried in a 204-page report on the future...
  • @anon
    @FineSwine

    Yes it will.

    The europhiles are behind the non-eu immigration as well so if the europhiles are defeated common sense will prevail.

    Replies: @FineSwine

    I don’t think that’s true. Jeremy Corbyn is both anti-EU and pro-immigration. The next Labour government may simultaneously pull out of the EU and scrap all remaining border controls.

    • Replies: @anon
    @FineSwine

    Venn diagrams: the pro-immigration lobby overlaps 90% with the pro-immigration lobby. Corbyn is part of the remaining 10%.

  • @Anonymous
    Britain must leave the EU at the upcoming referendum.

    Unfortunately, I have strong doubts in the wisdom of the British electorate in making the right decision. Especially in the face of a massive propaganda campaign financed by the richest of big business and conducted by the most ruthless of the world's professional dirty liars.

    Replies: @Niccolo Salo, @FineSwine

    Most immigration to Britain comes from outside the EU. Leaving the EU will not change this.

    • Replies: @anon
    @FineSwine

    Yes it will.

    The europhiles are behind the non-eu immigration as well so if the europhiles are defeated common sense will prevail.

    Replies: @FineSwine

    , @Anonymous
    @FineSwine

    Not really my point at all.

    Thank god that John Major 'negotiated' an opt-out from the Schengen arrangement back in the day. Of course he only did this due to pressure from eurosceptic back bench MPs.
    Anyhow, if Britain was in Schengen, rest assured that millions of 'migrants' would now have set foot there.

    Replies: @FineSwine