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  • @AltanBakshi
    @EldnahYm

    If I would be an Anglo, I would think that USA has gone downhill since 1861. Personally I just want that the current USAtan, with it's missionary liberal and universalistic ideas will fall. I don't much care if it will happen by your country changing into Brazil or into Anglo nationalist state, though isolationist WASP regime in America would probably be better for whole humanity.

    I've never given much value to Latin America. What else that god forsaken place has given us philosophically than just new strains of socialism like the heretic salvation theology? Culturally Latin America is a dead end, and they don't even have same excuses or biological limitations as sub-saharans have. I know that many here on this site disparage various Muslim nations, I tooI feel disdain towards them, but no one can't deny that they have given much to humanity in regards of architecture, poetry and aesthetics, though not really much in matters of spirituality(or if one wants to claim that endless nitpicking about trivial matters is spirituality then what ever), but what have Latin Americans achieved, even though they have a large and fertile continent, where they have resided for five centuries Look what Americans did just in two centuries! Or what Russians did in inhospitable Siberia, Central Asia and Urals, even Arabs developed interesting and highly distinct culture in Maghreb and Sahel.

    Also the backwardness of Latin America is not just because of them being mixed or something, one of my close relatives lived for couple years in Uruguay, which is the most European/White country of South America, and he told me that people there were always late, had no proper concept of time, the place where worked, was often closed, because there were constant labour strikes. From his words I understood that Uruguay was a shitty country of lazy people, and that same relative had lived before, because of his work, in Ukraine and Russia, and he has never complained about those countries in such way. Slav is an Empire builder, as the histories of Bulgaria, Russia and Poland show us, but Latin American is nothing else than a colonial peon.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @AP, @silviosilver, @silviosilver, @silviosilver, @Mikel, @EldnahYm

    If I would be an Anglo, I would think that USA has gone downhill since 1861. Personally I just want that the current USAtan, with it’s missionary liberal and universalistic ideas will fall. I don’t much care if it will happen by your country changing into Brazil or into Anglo nationalist state, though isolationist WASP regime in America would probably be better for whole humanity.

    Until the rest of the world stops investing in the U.S., any crisis in the U.S. is likely to have more catastrophic effects outside the U.S. Due to its unprecedented factor endowments and relative isolation, the U.S. can afford more destructive behavior than other countries. Just look to Europe for example. The last major world financial crisis begun in the United States but was most catastrophic in southern Europe. American actions in the Middle East have had little impact on Americans but have been a disaster for countries in the Middle East and have been a disaster in Europe via the rapefugee problem.

    I see the chances of an isolationist WASP regime as approaching 0%.

    • Replies: @AltanBakshi
    @EldnahYm


    any crisis in the U.S. is likely to have more catastrophic effects outside the U.S

     

    That just doesn't make any sense, there would be an economic crisis in Europe and Gulf monarchies, but if USD loses it's value, it would have most horrible implications for USA.
    Countries like India, ASEAN and East Asia are not so dependent on USA, and for some countries like Russia and Iran, America's fall would be quite helpful. There could be 5-10 years economic depression, just like the 90s in Eastern Europe, but nothing permanent. Some short term pain for the healing of the humanity in the longer run, is not bad price to pay. But for Gulf monarchies and Israel it could very well be a similar experience as the North Korea's after the fall of USSR. Saudi implosion would be quite likely.
  • @Wency
    @reiner Tor

    I have to imagine that a Hitler who stopped after taking Austria and the Sudetenland would be more of a Franco-like figure, and viewed perhaps as someone whose bark was worse than his bite. Germany softens and de-Nazifies within a few decades anyway, and once it breaks free of Nazism it overcorrects even harder to the left. But it does keep those territories, and East Prussia, into the present day.

    A Germany that somehow mostly fulfilled Hitler's vision (which, to be sure, I view as mostly an insane vision) and won WW2 would probably be a different animal. For a variety of reasons, I think Nazism would have persisted longer if it succeeded in seizing its lebensraum.

    Replies: @Beckow, @AltanBakshi, @reiner Tor

    A Germany that somehow mostly fulfilled Hitler’s vision (which, to be sure, I view as mostly an insane vision) and won WW2 would probably be a different animal. For a variety of reasons, I think Nazism would have persisted longer if it succeeded in seizing its lebensraum.

    It’s a common misconception to think that the lebensraum plans were realistic. In the 1930s Germany had extremely low number of births, the fertility rate was less than 2.0, and later during the war Germany lost huge share of it’s young and middle-aged men, proportionally more than any other age groups. Because of constant labour shortages, Germans brought millions of French and Ostarbeiters to Reich during the war. I think that Lebensraum plans would have gotten botched or there would have been a milder form of colonization than in the wildest dreams of the NSDAP. Germany just had not enough men or children, to realistically colonize Eastern Europe in a grand scale. We also should not forget that Rosenberg and Goebbels were quite sympathetic towards the Slavs, Goebbels even had a Czech lover, though Hitler forced him to break his relations with his mistress and made him reconcile with his wife. So there were many variable factors and cliques inside the NSDAP, lot of would have depended when Hitler would have died after the war, and which clique would had won control over most important institutions of state.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1033102/fertility-rate-germany-1800-2020/

    • Agree: EldnahYm
    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AltanBakshi


    ...misconception to think that the lebensraum plans were realistic.
     
    When plans fail it is easy to call them unrealistic. In the 40's it was quite realistic, Germans had the manpower, the desire, and passive Western support. Anglos or French wouldn't move a finger or sacrifice anything to fight Germans in the east - they sat down in 1938 and basically directed Hitler towards the east in Munich. Many in the West - possibly a majority - quietly preferred for the eastern Europe to be controlled and occupied by their fellow German kin, and not the damn Slavs. This was obvious at the time, West spent decades obfuscating their ugly behaviour. Some here still do it.

    Germans actually started the colonisation of lebensraum during WWII: Auschwitz was a new German city and there were dozens of them in the occupied east. Germans planted settlers in Crimea (always a primary price) in 1942-3. They were serious. A lot of serious plans are unrealistic in hindsight.

    Germans are a Western kin, Slavs are not. Poles and others can blow until they are blue in their faces, that is not going to change.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @reiner Tor

  • @Pumblechook
    @Mr. Hack

    What you’re describing has been my experience of Latins in the USA as well. Over the last few years, I’ve spent some months at a time across various parts of California.

    Didn’t quite know what to expect based on some of the online chat and whilst I’m sure there are some genuine ‘La Raza’ troublemakers, drunk Aztec dwarves and problems with drug gangs, pretty much all I met were decent people - and compared to first-gen immigrant Indians, Vietnamese, Arabs, etc. out there, just a lot more ‘normal’ and it didn’t feel like Mexicans as a people had an ‘angle’ or trying to hustle you, like other groups tend to do.

    Replies: @EldnahYm

    and it didn’t feel like Mexicans as a people had an ‘angle’ or trying to hustle you, like other groups tend to do.

    Mestizos from Mexico and Central America aren’t trying to scam. They’re mostly a laid back, passive people in daily interactions. However, people from South America are not the same.

  • @Coconuts
    @dfordoom


    Yes, Wokeism does seem to be just the latest manifestation of Puritan insanity.
     
    The classical Puritan types were hardline Calvinists, with a dark view of the inherently sinful nature of humanity, and convinced of the need for very strict discipline and harsh ascetic morality. The woke and SJWs are more like some kind of inversion or mirror image of this, the only thing Puritan about them is the way in which they try to enforce their particular code.

    Otherwise, the classic examples are lewd and sensuous materialists, fixated on worshipping individualistic, impulsive criminal types and engaging in histrionic, self indulgent displays of emotion and outrage. It seems like they have embraced for themselves the old Calvinist ideas of witches and witchcraft and fused them with some of the darker elements of African folk religion and fetish cults, then they seek gratification by pursuing this in a bizarre puritanical way.

    Replies: @Beckow, @AP

    …the only thing Puritan about them is the way in which they try to enforce their particular code.

    There were basically two types of European settlement in America:
    – Puritans who were settlers coming to work – this also fits the later arrivals who went farming to Midwest…
    – “Virginia” type based on people coming so they wouldn’t have to work – they had indentured labor and slaves from the very beginning.

    Today’s America is a majority Virginia type society with an admixture of Puritan work-ethic and self-righteousness. The Virginia type migration is people going where life is easier, expecting some sort of indentured or slave labor to help them live well. It is a plunder mentality.

    The woke people are an ugly combination of both: unable and unwilling to really work, but with a Puritan style. It was bound to happen eventually – the dynamic was always there. Now it is here and it isn’t pretty.

    • LOL: EldnahYm
  • @AP

    If we talk about new styles of music that appeared in the 20th century and quickly became popular in most of the world, the US looks like the clear winner to me.
     
    For jazz music, sure. For garbage such as rap or hip hop, yes. But the British probably produced better rock music than did the USA (from “classics” like Beatles, Rolling Stones, Queen, Led Zeppelin to punk or post-punk) and rock music would seem to be more significant than jazz.

    Replies: @Mikel, @EldnahYm

    American pop music is actually a carbon copy of British synth pop, which was influenced by German electronic music.

  • @Mikel
    @AltanBakshi


    If I would be an Anglo, I would think that USA has gone downhill since 1861.
     
    Well, the one thing that the US didn't do after mid-19th C is go downhill.

    I don't blame Eldnah for thinking that the US would have become even more prosperous if it had only accepted Anglo-Germanic immigrants but I don't know how possible that was at a time when it sought large amounts of settlers for its frontier lands and workers for its growing economy.

    And perhaps it would have also become more liberal, like Northwest Europe. The current woke movement looks full of Puritan and Anglo-Protestant streaks to me.

    Replies: @AltanBakshi, @dfordoom, @EldnahYm

    Well, the one thing that the US didn’t do after mid-19th C is go downhill.

    I don’t blame Eldnah for thinking that the US would have become even more prosperous if it had only accepted Anglo-Germanic immigrants but I don’t know how possible that was at a time when it sought large amounts of settlers for its frontier lands and workers for its growing economy.

    The frontier was long settled by the time Italians, Irish, Ashkenazi Jews, and eastern Euros were entering the U.S. in massive numbers. They came in as laborers, created ghettos, and had the effect of making the natives leave the cities for other places, which fed more into the “need” for labor. It’s the exact same pattern Blacks had in northern cities. A smaller amount of labor in northern cities would have necessitated higher wages for natives, and probably would have increased fertility. The interests of industrialists should be not be assumed to be the same as the country as a whole. Moreover, the problems these people brought were larger than these supposed economic benefits.

    And perhaps it would have also become more liberal, like Northwest Europe. .

    The most harmful effects of liberalism are mass immigration and increased crime. The Ellis Islanders were a group of immigrants who caused a large increase in crime(or rather, subsets of them did). So whether the U.S. would be more liberal or not, the entrance of these people has had a radical and negative effect.

    Personally I do not think the U.S. would be more liberal without Ellis Islanders. The first reason is because there would be less Jews. The second reason is that the logic of how liberalism operates is to find a minority/victim group and organize them to undermine a majority. With mass immigration you not only get more members of minorities, but you have a less cohesive society as a whole, the latter state being not only a result of the newcomers competing with the older stock, but also competing with each other.

    The U.S. being more like Denmark is hardly the worst outcome one can imagine.

    The current woke movement looks full of Puritan and Anglo-Protestant streaks to me.

    Descendants of Puritans are less powerful and culturally significant by the day, but somehow the frequency with which they are blamed for various ills is increasing. It is at the point that any movement which is moralistic and activist that people don’t like can be called Puritanical. Classic Puritanism has been dead since the latter half of the 18th century, and its New England theology mutation died in the 1880s. The last President who was a New Englander with Puritan roots was Calvin Coolidge 90 years ago. The last intellectual movement I can think of which originated with or was centered by Puritans would be the American eugenics movement.

    If I look to immigration reform, I see a lack of Puritans. The Hart-Celler Act which replaced the Coolidge administrations restrictions was created by Jews, and brought into being by Kennedy and his various Irish-Catholic appointees(some of whom later regretted what happened). The Reagan administration’s immigration reforms are another example. Neo-conservatism is a movement from Jewish former Trotskyists. The turn in anthropology away from biology was started by a Jew. Refugee resettlement has been dominated in order by Jews, Lutherans, and Catholics. The next group, Methodists, have been very much a distant contributor compared to the first three. Hollywood has never had much Puritan influence, and since the end of the silent era has been mostly purged of old stock Americans of any sort. Most of the social science “disciplines” which inspire wokeism, I won’t bother to name them all, are European, particularly Jewish imports. In the art world, you will struggle to find many Puritans contributing to modernism art. Instead you see a whole lot of French and Spanish, and an over-representation of Jews.

    I fail to see any evidence that Puritans are behind the decline of the United States. It’s closer to the opposite. After WW2 their influence was reduced effectively to zero and everything has been downhill since.

    • Replies: @Znzn
    @EldnahYm

    Are you talking about WASPs? Because WASPs managed to maintain their predominant status in US society until WW2, and perhaps a few years after 1945, arguably into the early 50s.

    , @Mikel
    @EldnahYm


    The frontier was long settled by the time Italians, Irish, Ashkenazi Jews, and eastern Euros were entering the U.S. in massive numbers.
     
    I don't feel as strongly as you about this matter and, as I said, I don't dispute your major point about Anglos and Germanics.

    I do know, however, that my Basque countrymen came to the most desolate and sparsely inhabited parts of the US West at a time when lawlessness was still quite rampant and the Mexican population pressure in the Southwest was a concern for the US governments (eventually Mexicans won the population battle in New Mexico and parts of Texas and California). They brought with them much needed hard work ethics and honest business practices. Many others came after them, especially Anglos and Germans, who are now a majority in the parts of Idaho and Nevada where you hardly found anything but Basques in times past.

    But I won't argue that whatever my countrymen did in the West could not have been done even better by other population groups.

    Perhaps a strict Anglo/Protestant immigration policy would not have been optimal though. It would have deprived the US of many valuable Europeans, including Swiss, South Germans and even some Anglos, and it wouldn't have done anything to prevent the arrival of some unruly British proles that still to this day tend to cause havoc wherever they go in Europe.

    I fail to see any evidence that Puritans are behind the decline of the United States. It’s closer to the opposite.
     
    It's probably not just Puritanism but American Protestantism in general. I live surrounded by people with New England roots. They are very good neighbors but I don't envy how they make their lives unnecessarily miserable. Everything has a moral and sinful aspect for them. They are tremendously preoccupied by how everybody else conducts their lives and are surprisingly naive at the same time. They honestly think that American military interventions abroad are carried out for humanitarian reasons.

    It is not too surprising that a movement like Wokeism was born in a society where these tendencies are prevalent. I don't see how it can ever take any deep roots in southern or (even less) eastern Europe. Unfortunately, it has made a tremendous headway in the Basque Country though. But I know very well why that is. Even though we are predominantly agnostic/atheists these days, we have always been the Puritans of Catholicism and the cradle of Jesuitism. Again, nothing too surprising.

    Replies: @reiner Tor, @silviosilver, @AltanBakshi

    , @AP
    @EldnahYm


    A smaller amount of labor in northern cities would have necessitated higher wages for natives, and probably would have increased fertility
     
    It wouldn't have compensated for the immigration. An America of only Protestant British, Germans and Dutch would have had, perhaps, Britain's (white) population. This would not have been enough to create the industrial juggernaut that America became. Moreover, the black population would have been the same you would have a country that was 70 million Anglos/Anglo-ized Germans and 44 million blacks. And that's without immigration from Latin America. But no pizza restaurants, mafia, and corrupt Irish cops.

    The U.S. being more like Denmark is hardly the worst outcome one can imagine.
     
    It wouldn't be because Ellis Island didn't bring in the slaves. Rather, US would be like Brazil except more segregated and with Anglos rather than Latins in charge. A weird alternative England with some significant South African characteristics.

    Descendants of Puritans are less powerful and culturally significant by the day
     
    The lady who came up with the idea of White Privilege was a WASP whose entire background was stereotypically WASPy:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peggy_McIntosh

    I don't think it's a coincidence that such ideas are most popular in places settled by Puritans, in institutions founded by Puritans, etc..

    Classic Puritanism has been dead since the latter half of the 18th century, and its New England theology mutation died in the 1880s.
     
    Wasn't the Temperance movement a Puritan thing?

    Replies: @reiner Tor

  • @Pumblechook
    @melanf

    Ok will clarify one last time - I’m not disagreeing with you. My point refers to armchair statisticians who would look at Russian demographics on Wikipedia and see “tatars - 5% of population” and think this is some kind of asiatic entirely non-European group...without the knowledge that in reality, many tatars can and do blend into modern Russian so that a tourist may not even know whom they have met in Kazan or Moscow...like the people in your photo

    Replies: @melanf

    look at Russian demographics on Wikipedia and see “tatars – 5% of population” and think this is some kind of asiatic entirely non-European group…

    Well, this is true, but “non-European” peoples represent other ethnic groups (not Tatars). There are places where “Asian” (according to the American classification) ethnic groups make up the majority.

    But it will be more of a distant analogue of the American Indians in the United States and Canada, not Hispanic

    • Agree: EldnahYm
  • @AP
    @Pumblechook

    He is an Anglo supremacist who thinks America had gone downhill since it let in all those Italians, Poles, Irish, etc. If one hates the presence of Italians, naturally one would also lament an influx of Latinos (who are more like Italian peasants than they are like Anglo farmers). If you are a fan of Italy you would probably not mind Latinos too much. I live in a part of the country without a lot of them, but friends who moved to Texas are happy with the Mexicans in their state.

    I’ve noticed that educated Latinos (often Cubans and South Americans) mix well with Slavs. On average they are a bit more dramatic, a bit more sexualized, they prefer rum over vodka - but there is a certain closeness of spirit; Anglos and Germanics are more distant. The Slavic and the Mediterranean worlds are sympathetic cousins.

    There is a class barrier with less educated Latinos, but I imagine they are not too dissimilar to hardworking Slavic peasants from 100 years ago. I hear that in Chicago, Polish-American proles often marry Mexicans living nearby.

    That having been said, a mass influx is disruptive, I do not support open borders.

    Replies: @Pumblechook, @EldnahYm, @mal, @Matra

    He is an Anglo supremacist who thinks America had gone downhill since it let in all those Italians, Poles, Irish, etc. If one hates the presence of Italians, naturally one would also lament an influx of Latinos (who are more like Italian peasants than they are like Anglo farmers). If you are a fan of Italy you would probably not mind Latinos too much. I live in a part of the country without a lot of them, but friends who moved to Texas are happy with the Mexicans in their state.

    Fair enough description, although I don’t really value English people over Scottish or Dutch for example. I wouldn’t mind the Irish if they weren’t corrupt anti-English papists. Some Ulster Scots mixed with local Irish people, and I have so-called Scots-Irish background so it is quite possible I have Irish ancestry. Poles are ok personally, the kindest person I have ever known in my life was a Catholic American of Polish ancestry, but I think the entrance of large number of them introduced an undesirable foreign element. On the other hand, mixes of British with Poles tends to produce entertaining results. See Mike Ditka for an example. Germanic Swiss people were the best immigrants of the Ellis Island era.

    I’m more of a cultural supremacist for Protestant British Isles culture as it evolved in the Americas and a pseudo-Nordicist. So Poles are much higher in my totem pole than Italians.

    There are differences between Italians and Hispanics. In particular, sex crimes. Italians may have murdered each other a lot in the past, and been involved in all sorts of corruption and vice, but they’re not commonly rapists, child molesters, or gropers. Hispanics are. This is always ignored by people who talk about how great Hispanics are. Sex crimes against strangers in the United States is mostly a crime committed by Blacks and Hispanics.

    California Hispanics have tended to be more troublesome than the ones in Texas. Puerto Ricans in New York have historically been criminally inclined and involved in gangs. Florida is a mixed picture compared to Texas or California.

    I’ve noticed that educated Latinos (often Cubans and South Americans) mix well with Slavs. On average they are a bit more dramatic, a bit more sexualized, they prefer rum over vodka – but there is a certain closeness of spirit; Anglos and Germanics are more distant. The Slavic and the Mediterranean worlds are sympathetic cousins.

    There are more important things in life than a shared affinity for sour cream.

    • Replies: @AP
    @EldnahYm


    mixes of British with Poles tends to produce entertaining results. See Mike Ditka for an example
     
    From the Bears website:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20071220123238/http://www.chicagobears.com/tradition/hof-ditka.asp

    Mike's childhood name was Mike Dyzcko. His father was one of three brothers of a Ukrainian family in the coal mining and steel manufacturing area in Western Pennsylvania. The name Dyzcko was too much of a tongue-twister in Carnegie, PA., where Mike was born on October 18, 1939, so the family name was changed to Ditka.

    (His mother was an Anglo I think)

    Italians may have murdered each other a lot in the past, and been involved in all sorts of corruption and vice, but they’re not commonly rapists, child molesters, or gropers. Hispanics are
     
    Any links? I suspect that a lot of any difference can be explained by the much younger nature of the Latino population. But I could be wrong.

    There are more important things in life than a shared affinity for sour cream.
     
    Lol. And mayonnaise. Cubans and Colombians love my wife’s olivie salad.

    But the affinity between our peoples is about more than just the food.
    , @AltanBakshi
    @EldnahYm

    If I would be an Anglo, I would think that USA has gone downhill since 1861. Personally I just want that the current USAtan, with it's missionary liberal and universalistic ideas will fall. I don't much care if it will happen by your country changing into Brazil or into Anglo nationalist state, though isolationist WASP regime in America would probably be better for whole humanity.

    I've never given much value to Latin America. What else that god forsaken place has given us philosophically than just new strains of socialism like the heretic salvation theology? Culturally Latin America is a dead end, and they don't even have same excuses or biological limitations as sub-saharans have. I know that many here on this site disparage various Muslim nations, I tooI feel disdain towards them, but no one can't deny that they have given much to humanity in regards of architecture, poetry and aesthetics, though not really much in matters of spirituality(or if one wants to claim that endless nitpicking about trivial matters is spirituality then what ever), but what have Latin Americans achieved, even though they have a large and fertile continent, where they have resided for five centuries Look what Americans did just in two centuries! Or what Russians did in inhospitable Siberia, Central Asia and Urals, even Arabs developed interesting and highly distinct culture in Maghreb and Sahel.

    Also the backwardness of Latin America is not just because of them being mixed or something, one of my close relatives lived for couple years in Uruguay, which is the most European/White country of South America, and he told me that people there were always late, had no proper concept of time, the place where worked, was often closed, because there were constant labour strikes. From his words I understood that Uruguay was a shitty country of lazy people, and that same relative had lived before, because of his work, in Ukraine and Russia, and he has never complained about those countries in such way. Slav is an Empire builder, as the histories of Bulgaria, Russia and Poland show us, but Latin American is nothing else than a colonial peon.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @AP, @silviosilver, @silviosilver, @silviosilver, @Mikel, @EldnahYm

  • @216
    @EldnahYm

    An urbanized area in the US where the GOP isn't dead is a novelty.

    The GOP in Congress is far to the right regarding fiscal policy versus their own base median, let alone the Hispanic median.

    Replies: @EldnahYm

    The GOP fiscal policy as far as I can tell is to run up the deficit in office, and then claim to want spending cuts when the Democrats are in office.

    • Agree: reiner Tor
  • @Yellowface Anon
    @EldnahYm

    The White Hispanic Southern Cone (Argentina especially) were high-income (but underdeveloped relative to that level) countries up to the 1st quarter of 20th century.

    Argentina's economy was as big as Canada's before WWII with comparable populations, but Argentina had faster population growth and was starting to fall behind per capita even in 1900. The same can be said of Uruguay and New Zealand in 1870 but Uruguay mostly stagnated after that point with only occasional booms (1905-1912 & 1943-1954). Chile grew from one of the poorest parts of South America on independence to the level of Northern Europe in 1913, and crashed in the Great Depression. (I'm mostly looking at Maddison Project for these numbers)

    The main reason they grew richer than South America was high resource-to-population ratios, like Canada, Australia and New Zealand, and all these countries followed a similar development model of resource extraction and export (Wheat and cattle in Argentina & Uruguay, saltpeter and copper in Chile). The only HBD relevant part is their failure to fully industrialize like Canada, and even here the HBD is a bit weak since the same issue also afflicted New Zealand. Purely economic (import substitution) and institutional factors (unstable governments) are the biggest explanations here. But the difference between New Zealand (which is poorer but stayed high-income) and the Southern Cone (stagnating into upper middle-income levels) can be easily explained by HBD (or its PC equivalent, human capital), and Southern Cone institutions are downstream from historical and current HBD as well.

    Replies: @EldnahYm

    Researcher Joe Francis casts doubt on the official story on Argentina. In particular, he doesn’t think the data is of good quality. Some examples from his blog:

    https://www.joefrancis.info/argentina_decline/
    https://www.joefrancis.info/argentina-in-1800/

    • Thanks: reiner Tor
  • @Almost Missouri
    @128


    Middle class and above Latinos in Lati American are unlikely to immigrate to the US.
     
    Depends. Whenever a Latin American country gets taken over by Leftists (e.g., Cuba, Venezuela), its middle- and upper-class flee to the US en masse, and typically become American rightists. And there's plenty of ordinary background immigration by the middle class just seeking higher wages in the US for their skills (e.g., engineers, accountants). Among the upper class, they don't exactly immigrate so much as establish a US residence, second home and bank accounts/investments, so that if their family is on the losing end of the next coup/revolution/civil war, they have a first world bolt hole prepared.

    But yes, the majority of immigration, certainly the majority of illegal immigration, is low-end labor. I don't know if it is 90% though. The middle class immigrants are less evident in the US because they assimilate pretty well. The upper class immigrants are less evident because they don't want to be noticed.

    Replies: @EldnahYm

    Depends. Whenever a Latin American country gets taken over by Leftists (e.g., Cuba, Venezuela), its middle- and upper-class flee to the US en masse, and typically become American rightists.

    I don’t consider Republican voters to be “rightists.” Just one example, while Cubans voted about 38% for Clinton 1996, in 2000 they only voted 17 percent for the Democrats. Why the big change? Did Cubans hate Al Gore that much? It was because of the Elian Gonzalez saga. The “rightist” Cubans were unhappy the U.S. was sending back an illegal alien to Cuba. So yes, Cubans are rightists in the sense that they are open borders Reaganites.

    Their children are even less Republican though. Democrats have gotten over 40% of the Cuban votes in the 2012 and 2016 elections. 2020 was totally different, as Trump’s vote tallies among Hispanics went up considerably.

    • Thanks: AltanBakshi
    • Replies: @216
    @EldnahYm

    An urbanized area in the US where the GOP isn't dead is a novelty.

    The GOP in Congress is far to the right regarding fiscal policy versus their own base median, let alone the Hispanic median.

    Replies: @EldnahYm

  • I have compared the current standoff in Donbass to a poker game. By amassing troops around Ukraine, Putin let it be known that a Ukrainian attack on Donbass would be - well, if not assuredly catastrophic, then at least extremely risky for its continued statehood. Ukraine could raise by going ahead with it anyway. It...
  • @AltanBakshi
    @Blinky Bill

    Manchus believed that Southern Hans are more susceptible to homosexuality, especially people of Fujian, maybe it's true, Taiwan is a Southern state after all, and was historically part of Fujian. Oh well, re-unification is only a matter of time, and all men can be reformed through hard labour.

    Replies: @AnonFromTN, @Showmethereal

    In all seriousness that forcing through the legislature allowing gay marriage in Taiwan was only to use “wokeness” as solidarity with the Hollywood crowd. They new they would all start to support a lesbian “president” and “the first place in Asia to allow gay marriage”. Makes me wonder if some foreign Soviet bloc nations might try the same…??

    The people voted in a referendum AGAINST having gay marriage taught in schools and then the DPP legislature forced the actual thing through. Politics are disgusting.

    • Agree: EldnahYm, AnonFromTN
    • Replies: @AP
    @Showmethereal

    Interesting. I would not want Taiwan occupied by China because it would be a shame for a place and people untouched by evil Communism to be placed under Communist rule. There are still plenty of decent people in Taiwan who don’t deserve that.

    Replies: @showmethereal, @Yellowface Anon, @Xi-jinping

  • Population is power, so it pays to keep track of it (along with national IQ and GDPcc), for those with an interest in geopolitics and futurism. I used to spend way too much time poring over statistics almanacs and the CIA World Factbook during my school years, so I have a pretty good fix on...
  • @Pumblechook
    @melanf

    In labour market dynamics and social standing yes agreed, but that wasn’t my point - rather I’m saying that both in the US and Russia there are large groups numbering in the millions (Tatars, Hispanics but also I guess groups like Lebanese Christians or Georgians) which on paper give the ‘mental impression’ of a non-European element which is in rigid contrast to the majority European population.

    However, this is not always so clear-cut and there is overlapping and leakage across these groups - for instance, there are of course many millions of Hispanics who are either totally Spanish/Italian in origin or Tatars who look and act almost entirely Russian and intermarry with children being absorbed into Russian ethnic.

    Replies: @128, @melanf, @EldnahYm

    However, this is not always so clear-cut and there is overlapping and leakage across these groups – for instance, there are of course many millions of Hispanics who are either totally Spanish/Italian in origin

    You’re wrong. Even “white Hispanic” countries like Argentina are significantly mixed with Amerindians. Look at genetic studies if you don’t believe me. There are very few Hispanics who are totally Spanish or Italian. If I take a trip to Brazil, I would probably have an easier time finding purebred Germans than I would for Portuguese.

    Italians Americans are swine whose largest contribution to American culture has been in the sphere of crime. The result of more “white Hispanic” immigration is that instead of Italians mixing with people of Germanic/Celtic extraction, which at least creates a diluted Italian mix, you get more Italians mixing with Latinos. It’s a race to the bottom.

    Why people think the corrupt “White Hispanics” of Latin America are in any way desirable is itself puzzling. These people have a horrible track record of running countries.

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
    @EldnahYm

    The White Hispanic Southern Cone (Argentina especially) were high-income (but underdeveloped relative to that level) countries up to the 1st quarter of 20th century.

    Argentina's economy was as big as Canada's before WWII with comparable populations, but Argentina had faster population growth and was starting to fall behind per capita even in 1900. The same can be said of Uruguay and New Zealand in 1870 but Uruguay mostly stagnated after that point with only occasional booms (1905-1912 & 1943-1954). Chile grew from one of the poorest parts of South America on independence to the level of Northern Europe in 1913, and crashed in the Great Depression. (I'm mostly looking at Maddison Project for these numbers)

    The main reason they grew richer than South America was high resource-to-population ratios, like Canada, Australia and New Zealand, and all these countries followed a similar development model of resource extraction and export (Wheat and cattle in Argentina & Uruguay, saltpeter and copper in Chile). The only HBD relevant part is their failure to fully industrialize like Canada, and even here the HBD is a bit weak since the same issue also afflicted New Zealand. Purely economic (import substitution) and institutional factors (unstable governments) are the biggest explanations here. But the difference between New Zealand (which is poorer but stayed high-income) and the Southern Cone (stagnating into upper middle-income levels) can be easily explained by HBD (or its PC equivalent, human capital), and Southern Cone institutions are downstream from historical and current HBD as well.

    Replies: @EldnahYm

    , @Pumblechook
    @EldnahYm

    Depends how you want to define 'white' - from the pov of a multi-national colony/empire like the US, the word 'white' does have a meaning and I think you can probably define it as an individual with 85%+ European ancestry. If we use that definition, then it's fair to say there are millions of 'white Hispanics'.

    I'm writing from Europe, where the 'white' concept obviously makes less sense, but in the US it's significant in the context of understanding the 'Hispanic' label which is too broad. Anyway, we all have our idiosyncracies; and mine is that I'm more sympathetic to Hispanics than you are, because my experience with them has been very positive on a personal level and I think the US is 'lucky' to have 150 million Mexicans to its south compared to the billion Africans south of Europe.

    Replies: @AP

  • This week's Open Thread. (1) Vitalik Buterin - Prediction Markets: Tales from the Election. Best explanation of why predictions markets were giving Trump 10% well after it was clear it was <1%. (2) Balaji - How to Start a New Country. One of my favorite Indians. He discusses his new website (amongst other things) with...
  • @AltanBakshi
    @Dmitry

    Maybe you are a bit too much of a pedant right now. There are quite many words that have their origins in misunderstandings, or are blatantly contradictory or false. Like Post-Modernism, how something can be after now, or after our present era? Maybe if we had a time machine and could travel to the future, and bring fashion trends of the future to our present era, then such fashion would literally be Post-Modern. Or let's inspect the word Cretin, it's nowadays a harsh and derogatory insult, but originally it meant someone who is a Christian or a common man, it would be like if the Russian word крестьянин would change to mean someone who is an idiot. Same thing with the word villain, which surprise surprise, was almost same in the meaning as the present day word villager.
    It seems to me that the Norman elites were quite elitist assholes.

    In India there are examples that are totally opposite, like the word Dasa, which meant servant, slave, non-Aryan, but later some holy men in some areas of India, started to call themselves Dasa or Dasyu, for they were the humble servants of Khrisna.

    Cultural Marxism is just a colloquial synonym for followers of the Frankfurt school, who were not Marxists, but vaguely leftists criticisers of Marxism(Leninism, Stalinism etc) and capitalism. In other words they were leftists who, after the happenings of 30s and WW2 had lost hope in the genuine workers revolution as a true source of societal transformation. After all common European men and workers had chosen in masses Hitler and Stalin, over the original anarchist and socialist principles. People too often forget how originally both Marxism and Anarchism had the same goal, a just society without state, and without those who take what belongs to the workers and farmers. In other words a world without lords and bosses.

    Replies: @Dmitry, @EldnahYm

    It seems to me that the Norman elites were quite elitist assholes.

    No kidding.

    Cultural Marxism is just a colloquial synonym for followers of the Frankfurt school, who were not Marxists, but vaguely leftists criticisers of Marxism(Leninism, Stalinism etc) and capitalism. In other words they were leftists who, after the happenings of 30s and WW2 had lost hope in the genuine workers revolution as a true source of societal transformation. After all common European men and workers had chosen in masses Hitler and Stalin, over the original anarchist and socialist principles. People too often forget how originally both Marxism and Anarchism had the same goal, a just society without state, and without those who take what belongs to the workers and farmers. In other words a world without lords and bosses.

    Too add to this, there is also a genealogical point to the label “cultural Marxism.” The Institute for Social Research at Frankfurt University was set up and staffed by Marxists and had a distinctly Marxist bent at its inception. Integrating Freud with Marx was one of the early goals of the Frankfurt School academics and Critical Theory’s origins can be traced to this project. More generally, Marxism was the dominant paradigm at one time among the left and it influenced a great many of the ideas later to come. Even though these ideas would later mutate in such a way as to be distinct from Marxism, if you look to their origin you will find Marxism looms large.

    While I think Dmitry’s sperging over the definition of “cultural Marxism” is a bit much, I have to admit I can’t be 100% unsympathetic. Applied to Adorno for example, the term “cultural Marxism” isn’t really a useful descriptor, and it’s going in the direction of labeling all left-wing critiques* of Capitalism or modernity as being Marxist. That’s not good.

    I also agree with what Coconuts said about Gramsci.

    *maybe not the environmentalist one, to the extent that really is a left-wing critique

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @EldnahYm

    Obviously "critical theory" people is very significantly influenced by Marxism. My point is just that it is "critical theory", not "cultural Marxism", and the latter term is the illiterate conjunction.

    These writers like Adorno have been Marxist to the extent they might have relegated the causal (but not diagnostic) importance of culture - that is the main Marxist influence: culture is epistemically important as a symptom we use to discover a disease, but the culture is the surface phenomenon, not disease itself which exists much deeper.

  • @AltanBakshi
    @Mr. Hack

    Well that time is behind now, and it's not coming back. How long it will take for genuine Christians to understand that?

    Thanks for the video, I sometimes really enjoy watching Christian sermons and preaching. I don't know much about Graham, but he seems to have been quite a charismatic and honest guy. There's really something invigorating in Christianity.

    A funny fact about me is that, when I was a baby, I was, for cultural reasons, baptized in Lutheran church. My father has never been a believer, but in my Buddhist-Shamanist mother's thinking it's always good to have some extra spiritual protection, though it was my father who was the member of the church and not my mother. Not a long time ago almost all children were baptized into the Lutheran countries, though now it seems to been a different era.

    Here's one extremely interesting article about Graham in NY Times.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2002/03/17/us/billy-graham-responds-to-lingering-anger-over-1972-remarks-on-jews.html

    No wonder why they hate Nixon so furiously...

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Coconuts, @EldnahYm

    • Thanks: AltanBakshi
  • Ethiopia has long done quite well by Sub-Saharan African standards. It has a good record of human accomplishment, being the only country in the region to have developed a literary corpus before European colonialism. But it was, until recently, extremely poor. But no longer so after a decade of some of the highest growth rates...
  • @John Johnson
    @EldnahYm

    You get inflation in other words. When you “print” a bunch of currency and do not have a corresponding fiscal policy, you end up with excess bank reserves(unless we are talking about the gold standard or some fixed exchange regime). This does not necessarily lead to inflation, and we have decades of evidence for this.

    Yes it does lead to inflation because governments don't print massive amounts of currency just to store them in a warehouse. They print money to spend it because their budget is in the red. Not sure why you quoted the word print when that is exactly what happens. Even if Robert had payed his bills by adding zeroes to a central bank account they would still have to print currency for it to work.

    This is very basic economics
    https://allwhybook.com/why-countries-dont-print-unlimited-money-what-is-inflation/

    An excerpt:
    So… with that in mind, Zimbabwe’s inflation, at its peak, reached 6.5 Sextillion percent. Or to put it another way… that number has 22 digits. Can you imagine it? It got so bad that prices doubled every 24 hours.

    So should Bob not have reversed course? Are you saying he was right the whole time while economists outside of Zimbabwe were wrong? Which level should he have gone to? Print enough money to where people don't pick it up off the ground? As I said in another post by that time the people were already switching to US dollars. That has happened numerous times in other economies where the government erroneously lets inflation run wild under the belief they can control the outcome.

    Zim Bob (an anti-White Marxist) decided that Western economists didn't know better than him and he turned on the printing machine. Here is a look at what life was like during peak inflation:
    https://www.timesnownews.com/international/article/bread-loaf-for-35-mn-zimbabwean-dollars-inflation-at-231000000-recalling-robert-mugabe-s-zimbabwe/483906

    Replies: @mal, @EldnahYm

    Yes it does lead to inflation because governments don’t print massive amounts of currency just to store them in a warehouse. They print money to spend it because their budget is in the red. Not sure why you quoted the word print when that is exactly what happens. Even if Robert had payed his bills by adding zeroes to a central bank account they would still have to print currency for it to work.

    Have you been living under a rock the last decade? We have had a massive increase in the money supply and zero inflation. Japan has decades of it, and deflation. One of the great things about economics is it’s a field where empirical evidence doesn’t count for much.

    If you read the literature about the “Great Moderation,” it’s all trying to explain how independent Central Banks are responsible for low inflation and everything great in the world. Or if you read Milton Friedman/Anna Schwartz’s work, they believe the Great Depression was a result of the Central Bank failing to increase the money supply, and the New Keynesians more or less agree. Contrary to your fantasy view, the idea of increasing the money supply without an accompanying fiscal policy is mainstream dogma. The exact situation today is a result of mainstream economic ideas which you are obviously not familiar with.

    Are you saying he was right the whole time while economists outside of Zimbabwe were wrong?

    I’m not interested in discussing Zimbabwe, mal can do so if he wishes. But you have to be subhuman to think economics aren’t wrong all the time.

    • Replies: @Yellowface Anon
    @EldnahYm

    Studying Austrian Economics will clear up lots of confused ideas in here. Monetary inflation is almost always confused with consumer price inflation which is what CPI tells (and CPI is rigged if you listen to shadowstats. One of the main goals of inflationism, besides inflation targeting, is propping up asset prices, which only trickle to consumer prices. It's indeed a fragile balance, and it's getting topsy-turvier. In the case of Japan, massive money-printing ultimately approaches to masked state capitalism as the central bank's asset value becoming greater than the GDP and owning an inordinate share of the bond and stock market.

    Replies: @mal

  • @Xi-jinping
    @EldnahYm


    South Korea and Japan, and China for that matter grew their economies by importing Western capital and building up large export industries to export back both to Western countries and other developing markets. Complaining that Western countries don’t allow North Korea to do the same is equivalent to complaining why the West isn’t subsidizing Communist country development.
     
    So? The USSR did the same too. The USSR would bring in experts from America/Britain/Germany/Italy/etc to help it buildup industry and to teach its own people what was needed to build their country in the 20's. Nobody saw an issue with it then. Furthermore, Nazi Germany brought in Soviet equipment and Engineers to help it rebuild after Versaille. The fact that countries use the talent of other nations to build themselves up is pure pragmatism. Why would they not?

    The US had no problems with exporting equipment and talent into China because it was politically suitable. Nor has it any problems with working with Communist Vietnam when it suits its interests.

    The US was built on stealing German and British tech. That isn't a very good argument for Capitalism if you need to steal other countries tech to build your own economy.

    Its not 'complaining' to mention that sanctions on North Korea significantly hinder its development.

    Its not an argument against communism to mention that due to the fact that North Korea has little oil in its territory and cannot import more because nobody will trade with it for fear of US sanctions (and there are many people interested even in America itself), meaning that it cannot operate industrial farms and feed its people properly.


    Maybe one day the size and sophistication of the Chinese economy will reach a point where countries like North Korea can develop solely by trading with China or other countries not affiliated with the West. Until that happens, you don’t have a good economic argument for Communism.
     
    Lol.

    Lol.
     
    Lol. The RF's economy is smaller than that of Texas (and Texas isn't even a country). Or Italy. So much for Capitalist "efficiency" eh.

    USSR had its own electronics industry and its own programming languages, chip architectures, and produced computers at home, for example (hence Buran rocket automation). RF can't even get GLONASS to work properly (which btw was a Soviet innovation - just like everything else RF lives off of) because sanctions prevent it sourcing parts from France and other western countries. LOL. The RF has to source parts for national defense from hostile powers....lol

    Replies: @EldnahYm

    So? The USSR did the same too. The USSR would bring in experts from America/Britain/Germany/Italy/etc to help it buildup industry and to teach its own people what was needed to build their country in the 20’s. Nobody saw an issue with it then. Furthermore, Nazi Germany brought in Soviet equipment and Engineers to help it rebuild after Versaille. The fact that countries use the talent of other nations to build themselves up is pure pragmatism. Why would they not?

    The US had no problems with exporting equipment and talent into China because it was politically suitable. Nor has it any problems with working with Communist Vietnam when it suits its interests.

    Thanks for confirming my point. The experience of World War 2 might suggest that those countries made a mistake.

    The US was built on stealing German and British tech. That isn’t a very good argument for Capitalism if you need to steal other countries tech to build your own economy.

    Lol. Countries don’t need to re-invent the wheel to develop.

    Its not ‘complaining’ to mention that sanctions on North Korea significantly hinder its development.

    China being North Korea’s dominant trade partner is inevitable. If North Korea’s exports to China were say 80% instead of 90%, and it had more imports from other non-hostile Asian countries, would the country be significantly more developed? I doubt it. I’m essentially describing countries like Mongolia or Myanmar, which aren’t particularly rich. The very existence of South Korea means North Korea is always at a disadvantage except for raw materials.

    Widespread sanctions against North Korea have not even been applied for the majority of the country’s existence. You’re also ignoring the fact that isolation from much of the outside world has often been a policy of the North Korean government, economic self-sufficiency was a Juche principle. You also want to ignore the fact that some of those sanctions were responses to North Korean bombings and sinking of ships in South Korea. Sanctions also don’t explain many of the crazier policies of Kim Jong-Il and the people around him. Your starting point is the fact that sanctions against North Korea have occurred, and with that starting point are trying to explain away all of North Korea’s problems.

    Its not an argument against communism to mention that due to the fact that North Korea has little oil in its territory and cannot import more because nobody will trade with it for fear of US sanctions (and there are many people interested even in America itself), meaning that it cannot operate industrial farms and feed its people properly.

    Too bad for you the world didn’t begin in 2006.

    Lol. The RF’s economy is smaller than that of Texas (and Texas isn’t even a country). Or Italy. So much for Capitalist “efficiency” eh.

    USSR had its own electronics industry and its own programming languages, chip architectures, and produced computers at home, for example (hence Buran rocket automation). RF can’t even get GLONASS to work properly (which btw was a Soviet innovation – just like everything else RF lives off of) because sanctions prevent it sourcing parts from France and other western countries. LOL. The RF has to source parts for national defense from hostile powers….lol

    On North Korea your argument is that the country can’t develop because foreign powers won’t trade with it. On the Soviet Union your argument is that the country was better because it was self-sufficient. Lol.

    • Agree: AP
    • Replies: @Xi-jinping
    @EldnahYm


    Lol. Countries don’t need to re-invent the wheel to develop.
     
    That's a contradiction of your previous statement - you said that the fact that North Korea cannot trade with anyone and is thus poor is an indictment of Communism.

    Glad you agree with me that countries don't need to re-invent the wheel to develop, and that trade with other nations is important for a countries development.

    China being North Korea’s dominant trade partner is inevitable. If North Korea’s exports to China were say 80% instead of 90%, and it had more imports from other non-hostile Asian countries, would the country be significantly more developed? I doubt it. I’m essentially describing countries like Mongolia or Myanmar, which aren’t particularly rich. The very existence of South Korea means North Korea is always at a disadvantage except for raw materials.
     
    China (just like the most of the Asian countries) are wary of trading with North Korea due to fear of US sanctions. Same as they wont trade with Huawei, because the US told them not to.

    North Korea was ahead of South Korea economically (despite the South having a larger population) for a long while (in the 60's and 70's) and it didn't fall too far behind until relatively recently. The loss of the Communist block and Soviet support hurt them hard. A North Korea trading as extensively as South Korea without restrictions would soon reach the same economic level as the South - the people are not greatly different in terms of intelligence or ability. The North has developed some remarkable tech just on their own with limited access to outside knowledge.

    Recently the North has built a world class spa/resort because they wanted to develop their tourism - the US banned investments in that resort and made it hard to travel there. The same fate has met many North Korean projects. Imagine the US banning Samsung from trading with anyone, lets see how far it gets, even with the best intentions of the government.

    Widespread sanctions against North Korea have not even been applied for the majority of the country’s existence. You’re also ignoring the fact that isolation from much of the outside world has often been a policy of the North Korean government, economic self-sufficiency was a Juche principle. You also want to ignore the fact that some of those sanctions were responses to North Korean bombings and sinking of ships in South Korea. Sanctions also don’t explain many of the crazier policies of Kim Jong-Il and the people around him. Your starting point is the fact that sanctions against North Korea have occurred, and with that starting point are trying to explain away all of North Korea’s problems.
     
    Many of these 'crazy' policies are due to the North feeling threatened by the Americans on its border. All of its seemingly 'crazy' actions can be explained by this.

    My starting point is that the US is a threat to North Korea and North Korea is rightfully wary of it and basis all of its policies (including Juche) on this. Remove the US from the South and the North will seem less "crazy".
  • @Xi-jinping
    @AP

    False.

    You spout American propaganda. Not surprising, considering you live in America yourself.

    Yeah yeah, you're gonna bring up North Korea or USSR or China or some stupid shit. But you conveniently ignore a few things

    1. North Korea has one trading partner (China) and is sanctioned by almost everyone else. No shit it has low economic growth. If everyone sanctioned Japan or South Kroea, they would do much better.

    2. USSR had a better economy than the RF. Even the RFSR was doing better than modern RF (its surprising that RF surpassed peak economic car production even with modern tools and development techniques - only goes to show how dysfunctional RF economy is). Hell, even the Ukranian SSR was more economically developed than modern Ukraine.

    3. China is still centrally planned and recently released their newest 5 year plan (and no they're not doing away with them) and State Owned Enterprises (like in the USSR) are some of their most productive and largest companies (for example COSCO Shipping.

    Nice try, try again.

    Replies: @EldnahYm, @Boomthorkell

    South Korea and Japan, and China for that matter grew their economies by importing Western capital and building up large export industries to export back both to Western countries and other developing markets. Complaining that Western countries don’t allow North Korea to do the same is equivalent to complaining why the West isn’t subsidizing Communist country development.

    Maybe one day the size and sophistication of the Chinese economy will reach a point where countries like North Korea can develop solely by trading with China or other countries not affiliated with the West. Until that happens, you don’t have a good economic argument for Communism.

    China is still centrally planned and recently released their newest 5 year plan (and no they’re not doing away with them) and State Owned Enterprises (like in the USSR) are some of their most productive and largest companies (for example COSCO Shipping.

    Five year plans are just targets set by the government. If that’s all it takes to be Communist, we shouldn’t even be discussing this. Every country is Communist by this definition. We can even call the Kyoto Protocols Communistic, even if we accept your definitions.

    2. USSR had a better economy than the RF. Even the RFSR was doing better than modern RF (its surprising that RF surpassed peak economic car production even with modern tools and development techniques – only goes to show how dysfunctional RF economy is). Hell, even the Ukranian SSR was more economically developed than modern Ukraine.

    Lol.

    • LOL: Xi-jinping
    • Replies: @Xi-jinping
    @EldnahYm


    South Korea and Japan, and China for that matter grew their economies by importing Western capital and building up large export industries to export back both to Western countries and other developing markets. Complaining that Western countries don’t allow North Korea to do the same is equivalent to complaining why the West isn’t subsidizing Communist country development.
     
    So? The USSR did the same too. The USSR would bring in experts from America/Britain/Germany/Italy/etc to help it buildup industry and to teach its own people what was needed to build their country in the 20's. Nobody saw an issue with it then. Furthermore, Nazi Germany brought in Soviet equipment and Engineers to help it rebuild after Versaille. The fact that countries use the talent of other nations to build themselves up is pure pragmatism. Why would they not?

    The US had no problems with exporting equipment and talent into China because it was politically suitable. Nor has it any problems with working with Communist Vietnam when it suits its interests.

    The US was built on stealing German and British tech. That isn't a very good argument for Capitalism if you need to steal other countries tech to build your own economy.

    Its not 'complaining' to mention that sanctions on North Korea significantly hinder its development.

    Its not an argument against communism to mention that due to the fact that North Korea has little oil in its territory and cannot import more because nobody will trade with it for fear of US sanctions (and there are many people interested even in America itself), meaning that it cannot operate industrial farms and feed its people properly.


    Maybe one day the size and sophistication of the Chinese economy will reach a point where countries like North Korea can develop solely by trading with China or other countries not affiliated with the West. Until that happens, you don’t have a good economic argument for Communism.
     
    Lol.

    Lol.
     
    Lol. The RF's economy is smaller than that of Texas (and Texas isn't even a country). Or Italy. So much for Capitalist "efficiency" eh.

    USSR had its own electronics industry and its own programming languages, chip architectures, and produced computers at home, for example (hence Buran rocket automation). RF can't even get GLONASS to work properly (which btw was a Soviet innovation - just like everything else RF lives off of) because sanctions prevent it sourcing parts from France and other western countries. LOL. The RF has to source parts for national defense from hostile powers....lol

    Replies: @EldnahYm

  • @John Johnson
    @mal

    Japan and US and EU have been printing money like crazy, and no luck. Inflation needs effective distribution mechanism which is lacking in the West.

    What are you saying? Do you think the fed would like runaway inflation but has no means of doing so? They do the opposite which is try to control inflation. In fact they set inflation goals every year.

    The Fed has said it will not raise interest rates until inflation has exceeded 2% and “we believe we can do it, we believe we will do it. It may take more than three years,” Powell said. The current inflation rate by the Fed’s preferred measure is about 1.3%.
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-fed-powell/fed-to-keep-policy-easy-stay-patient-as-u-s-economy-revives-idUSKBN2AO254

    Zimbabwe debt to GDP peaked at under 250% GDP at their worst before they hyperinflated it away and is currently running at around 75% GDP.

    They have the second highest inflation on record which 79,600,000,000%
    https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/390/inflation/hyper-inflation-in-zimbabwe/

    That is thanks to Bob printing money. He ignored "imperialist" (White) economists and turned on the printing machine.

    Replies: @EldnahYm, @mal

    What are you saying? Do you think the fed would like runaway inflation but has no means of doing so? They do the opposite which is try to control inflation. In fact they set inflation goals every year.

    The Bank of Japan falsely believes deflation has been a problem and have been attempting to use monetary policy to induce inflation for decades now. They have failed.

    That is thanks to Bob printing money. He ignored “imperialist” (White) economists and turned on the printing machine.

    No, it’s thanks to using that printed money to pay off foreign loans, a very similar situation to what happened in Weimar Germany. Just printing money doesn’t do anything. Fiscal policy. Monetary policy. There is a difference. To simplify, when you print currency which you exchange for other currency(paying off foreign denominated debt qualifies), you lower the value of your currency relative to that currency(or relative to many currencies), and this means you need to spend ever more of your currency to purchase anything that is influenced by prices in international markets. You get inflation in other words. When you “print” a bunch of currency and do not have a corresponding fiscal policy, you end up with excess bank reserves(unless we are talking about the gold standard or some fixed exchange regime). This does not necessarily lead to inflation, and we have decades of evidence for this.

    I can think of many ways a country could try to deliberately cause inflation, but monetary policy is not the way to do it.

    • Agree: mal
    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @EldnahYm

    You get inflation in other words. When you “print” a bunch of currency and do not have a corresponding fiscal policy, you end up with excess bank reserves(unless we are talking about the gold standard or some fixed exchange regime). This does not necessarily lead to inflation, and we have decades of evidence for this.

    Yes it does lead to inflation because governments don't print massive amounts of currency just to store them in a warehouse. They print money to spend it because their budget is in the red. Not sure why you quoted the word print when that is exactly what happens. Even if Robert had payed his bills by adding zeroes to a central bank account they would still have to print currency for it to work.

    This is very basic economics
    https://allwhybook.com/why-countries-dont-print-unlimited-money-what-is-inflation/

    An excerpt:
    So… with that in mind, Zimbabwe’s inflation, at its peak, reached 6.5 Sextillion percent. Or to put it another way… that number has 22 digits. Can you imagine it? It got so bad that prices doubled every 24 hours.

    So should Bob not have reversed course? Are you saying he was right the whole time while economists outside of Zimbabwe were wrong? Which level should he have gone to? Print enough money to where people don't pick it up off the ground? As I said in another post by that time the people were already switching to US dollars. That has happened numerous times in other economies where the government erroneously lets inflation run wild under the belief they can control the outcome.

    Zim Bob (an anti-White Marxist) decided that Western economists didn't know better than him and he turned on the printing machine. Here is a look at what life was like during peak inflation:
    https://www.timesnownews.com/international/article/bread-loaf-for-35-mn-zimbabwean-dollars-inflation-at-231000000-recalling-robert-mugabe-s-zimbabwe/483906

    Replies: @mal, @EldnahYm

  • This week's Open Thread. (1) Vitalik Buterin - Prediction Markets: Tales from the Election. Best explanation of why predictions markets were giving Trump 10% well after it was clear it was <1%. (2) Balaji - How to Start a New Country. One of my favorite Indians. He discusses his new website (amongst other things) with...
  • In terms of reducing the pollution for citizens China, there superficially seems to be some small hopes of improvement in the country from their current nightmare.

    For example, an interesting report in YouTube, about the famous story of the city in China with 16,000 electric buses, which should superficially be very impressive and hopeful:

    Sad thing, however, is that a lot of the electricity will be generated from coal burning power plants, so air pollution will still be killing thousands of local citizens, just by a different mechanism than the automobile.

    Needless to say, it should be a higher priority for China to convert its coal burning power plants to gas burning ones, than to convert to EVs, even if the latter is also welcome – and the former is the main thing that Russia can actually be helpful to improve China.

    But China’s authorities seem more focused on support for a potential future car industry that becomes possible with the change to electric automobiles (especially with the slowness of Japanese automobile manufacturers in this market), than what should be a higher priority to reduce pollution by upgrading to gas power plants for electricity generation and eliminating use of coal.

    • Agree: EldnahYm
    • Replies: @Jatt Aryaa
    @Dmitry

    They probably want the gas infrastructure built first and there's also first mover advantage.

    China seems to be moving away from those backend changes as more party members have an arts V engineering background.

    Superficial & visible changes instead of transformative ones.

    Idk, I'm not too well educated on this.

    , @Daniel Chieh
    @Dmitry

    China's pollution issues have improved significantly already.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/sep/10/pollutionwatch-air-pollution-in-china-falling-study-shows

  • @Shortsword
    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/images/databriefs/201-250/db216_fig1.png

    Native American genocide?

    Replies: @EldnahYm

    Mexicans doing the job white Americans won’t do.

    Flyover country whites can look to the plight of American Indians to get an idea what their future will look like.

  • @Thulean Friend
    @EldnahYm

    You're mixing two different aspects. The general that I quoted was not talking about the Rohingyas primarily but a wider sectarian conflagraton together with political polarisation (same ethnic group can still get to daggers drawn). The goal that the US was pursuing with the Rohingya was part of a larger strategy and shouldn't be viewed in isolation. A destabilised Myanmar is better from the US' point of view than a Myanmar safely in Beijing's orbit without major internal upheaval.

    I largely agree with your assessment that the Rohingyas are essentially Bangledeshis, but ethnogenesis, if it persists, can become permanent. Ultimately all of our identities are created out of thin air because people decide for long enough, in sufficient numbers, that a new identity has been formed - and then stick to it. Such has the historical process been of all current and past identities.

    Replies: @EldnahYm

    You’re mixing two different aspects. The general that I quoted was not talking about the Rohingyas primarily but a wider sectarian conflagraton together with political polarisation (same ethnic group can still get to daggers drawn). The goal that the US was pursuing with the Rohingya was part of a larger strategy and shouldn’t be viewed in isolation. A destabilised Myanmar is better from the US’ point of view than a Myanmar safely in Beijing’s orbit without major internal upheaval.

    I understand the point, I just disagree with the premise. Pointing the finger at the Rohingya is something almost everyone in the country can get behind. Ethnically cleansing them is not a dividing force, but the opposite. Looking at conflicts with the Rohingya as part of larger ethnic conflicts is misleading because the Rohingya problem can easily be solved, and there is nothing to the idea that an escalation of repression against the Rohingya necessarily leads to the same for other groups. I’ll try to put the point more plainly: No one likes the Rohingya, therefore it is a good idea to nip the problem in the bud. If it is the case that outside powers(the U.S. is not alone in this case, the Chinese have a long history as well) are stoking ethnic conflicts, then removing one of the more troublesome groups, who are disliked by the other locals, is actually effective for resolving local conflicts. Not doing so means yet another ethnic/religious conflict in the future. Right now, the Rohingya are weak, so the time is ripe for getting rid of them. Failure to do so will lead to big problems in the future.

    I largely agree with your assessment that the Rohingyas are essentially Bangledeshis, but ethnogenesis, if it persists, can become permanent. Ultimately all of our identities are created out of thin air because people decide for long enough, in sufficient numbers, that a new identity has been formed – and then stick to it. Such has the historical process been of all current and past identities.

    I agree with this(except for nitpicking the phrase “out of thin air,” since identities aren’t entirely invented, otherwise for example genetic differences would not exist), and it is exactly why I suggest not removing the Rohingya will cause more problems than whatever results from ethnically cleansing them. They have higher TFR than Buddhist locals, if the problem is not sorted out soon, there could be a Bosnia-like conflagration. But Rohingya being driven from their homes and into other countries is the solution to the problem, not a symptom of the problem.

  • @Morton's toes
    @Bashibuzuk

    We haven't seen the end of the Elizabeth Holmes story. There is still a trial with a jury of Californians. She will likely be marketed to the jurors and the sensational gullible media as the victim in this mess. The lawyers are going to come up with something. They already sent a brief to the judge that she is crazy.

    It may end up being one of the wildest things ever.

    I cannot forget the day I referred to her amphetamine eye glow on an internet comment board and was bombarded by a small army of irate anti hate speech fanatics.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @anyone with a brain

    She is quite attractive though, perhaps her eye glow is part of her charm…

    • Disagree: EldnahYm
    • Replies: @songbird
    @Bashibuzuk

    Have you ever seen video of her? VERY creepy.

    Steve Sailer postulated that a lot of elderly male investors were wrapped around her finger because she was a blonde. Seeing her move and talk, though, it is hard for me to believe it.

    , @Morton's toes
    @Bashibuzuk

    She was accompanied in her hay day by an un-house-trained dog. Not a midget dog. A huskie.

    You might not have been charmed for long.

    https://animalso.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/alaskan-husky_3.jpg

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

  • @Thulean Friend
    I've been reading up about the Myanmar crisis (the background to the 2021 coup and its repercussions). I have become extremely distrustful of Western media over the past decade. In its coverage, I never once felt I was being told even close to the full story, so I have been parsing together the shards from multiple one-the-ground sources (either in the country or in close proximity).

    The story goes something like this. The NED cut its fangs deep into the country for many decades. The main beneficiary of this support has been Aung San Suu Kyi. This could be surprising given the recent demonisation campaign of her, but this was likely a pressure tactic done to weaken her hand.

    The critical background is that containing China is much older than recent rhetoric would suggest, though the noise has merely escalated in recent years. Amazingly, The Guardian (!) carried an honest story reporting on US attempt of sabotage of a dam. The key factor was China's backing. This is the role that she has been playing for years and for which she was handsomely paid.

    Aung San Suu Kyi is an old Western asset, and she has been the recipient of US "NGO support" and dark money for many years. In addition, there are various ethnic militant groups that the US has funded and enabled. The Rohingya crisis some of you may remember was a policy of the US to stoke both sides. The outcome sought was to destabilise the country sufficiently so that any Chinese projects would become untenable.

    When Aung San Suu Kyi was in power, she did do a few deals with the Chinese, which is what may perplex outsiders. If she's an asset of the US, why would she do that? The simple answer is economic necessary. Myanmar is just as dependent on China economically speaking as Mexico is of the US. The inevitable gravity of China in that part of the world forces some kind of pragmatism. However, this pragmatism enraged the US, which is another reason why she was given the cold shoulder by her former patrons.

    The army perspective is almost impossible to come across. All their accounts have been deleted across US social media. I did managed to dig up a few statements from generals made in the early 2000s. They clearly made the point that if she and the ethnic guerillas that the US came to power, the country would descend into a Bosnian-style conflagration of the 1990s. This statement was prescient given the Rohingya crisis later on.

    The US fundamentally does not care about Myanmar. Nor does it think it can meaningfully shift the country to a loyal US puppet, given how close its economic links to China is. The goal is to destabilise it sufficiently by drumming up support among critical factions within it as to render it useless to Beijing, by perpetuating constant turmoil. If the Myanmar people are casualties, then so be it. In this sense, the playbook is similar to the one being played out in Syria, Venezuela or arguably even Ukraine.

    One last point. You often read in the Western press about "hundreds killed". The impression one gets is that the army is mowing down innocent protestors on the streets for the sake of it. What a lot of people don't appreciate is to just what an extent that the US has cultivated various ethnic groups inside the country and armed them to the teeth precisely for these kinds of eventualities. The army is in violent conflict with many of these.

    I do not think we will see a formal invasion of the US, into a country on the doorstep of China. But I do think we could potentially see every step leading up to that, but short of it, as in Syria. Myanmar allowed itself to be destabilised by letting groups like the NED, the NGO-industrial complex more broadly to proliferate for decades. That price for that lack of vigilance is coming home to roost.

    Replies: @Blinky Bill, @sher singh, @EldnahYm, @128, @128, @winnepeggreg

    . They clearly made the point that if she and the ethnic guerillas that the US came to power, the country would descend into a Bosnian-style conflagration of the 1990s. This statement was prescient given the Rohingya crisis later on.

    The Rohingya are less than 1 million people, not even 1/50th of the country, and aren’t liked by the rest of the country. Conflicts with them are not evidence of a Bosnia style conflagration. Myanmar should have ethnically cleansed every single one of them a long time ago. What could the U.S. do about it? Nothing. Keeping these people in the country is more destabilizing than eating sanctions and permanently ridding the country of them. Let the Bengalis deal with the problem.

    • Replies: @Thulean Friend
    @EldnahYm

    You're mixing two different aspects. The general that I quoted was not talking about the Rohingyas primarily but a wider sectarian conflagraton together with political polarisation (same ethnic group can still get to daggers drawn). The goal that the US was pursuing with the Rohingya was part of a larger strategy and shouldn't be viewed in isolation. A destabilised Myanmar is better from the US' point of view than a Myanmar safely in Beijing's orbit without major internal upheaval.

    I largely agree with your assessment that the Rohingyas are essentially Bangledeshis, but ethnogenesis, if it persists, can become permanent. Ultimately all of our identities are created out of thin air because people decide for long enough, in sufficient numbers, that a new identity has been formed - and then stick to it. Such has the historical process been of all current and past identities.

    Replies: @EldnahYm

    , @Blinky Bill
    @EldnahYm

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  • From the indispensable BioHackInfo: China’s new Criminal Code, which came into effect four weeks ago on March 1st, has a new section dedicated to ‘illegal medical practices’, which makes it a punishable crime to create gene-edited babies, human clones and animal-human chimeras. The new section is an amendment to Article 336 of China’s Criminal Law,...
  • @AnonfromTN
    @DNS


    Trust a snake before a Jew and a Jew before a Greek, but don’t trust an Armenian
     
    Maybe my personal experience is not representative, but here it is. I know three Armenians (two males and one female), all pretty decent people. (Disclaimer: none of them grew up in Armenia, none speaks the language, all three married to Russians). I know two Greeks, both good people. One of them grew up in Greece and speaks Greek. He is the smarter and nicer of the two. I know quite a few Jews, they range from people I’d prefer to avoid to very decent people I like being around. Most of the latter are not married to Jews, though. I met many Indians, one very smart, two reasonably smart (all three females), two OK, two on a dumber side, and one dumb as a brick (all five males). So, I don’t see any correlations with predictive value. If you do, let me know.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @EldnahYm

    Your experience of diaspora Indians seems representative. I’ve come across Indians who were quite smart and among the hardest working people in the firm, and others who are totally incompetent. Even in “high skilled” occupations, one can find incompetent Indians. My overall impression of Indians in the United States is that there are both a disproportionate amount of talented people, but also a high degree of variability.

  • I know this will come as a shock to many of my regular readers, but I will nonetheless ask you to respect my new identity as a Black Trans Russian (#BTR, pronouns: she/her) and support me in my transition. You can do that verbally, or even better, financially. Those surgeries don't come cheap. Black Trans...
  • @HenryBaker
    Anatoly, did you ever write a longer post on why you think Ukraine is an illegitimate state? It mostly seems to be the old argument that they are 'little Russians' that just don't know it or acknowledge it. But say the Germans suddenly grew aggressive on Austria as being 'just Germans' and wanted to incorporate it against their will, we would see that as pretty morally despicable.

    If the Germans started to call us Dutch 'little Germans' that needed incorporation I would find such presumption pretty despicable as well. But they could do so (and the nazis did), coming up with some bullshit about how we were artificially severed from the Reich in the Late Medieval Epoch and have a language with similar roots, and now we can be annexed even against our will. Not to be too sarcastic, but maybe they can go after the Swiss too, while they're at it? Perhaps Britain can go after the 'little Englishmen' in the colonies again?

    Also, how do Russian nationalists ever hope to integrate Ukraine given that you seem to dislike Ukrainians quite actively, and vice versa?

    Yes I'm a liberal who believes in national self-determination, which is easily disparaged as naive, but I don't consider incorporating unwilling populations as being any better. Of course, while this is all very critical, I'm just not an expert in Russo-Ukrainian history- I likewise fail to understand why Ukraine is so hostile to Russia.

    Replies: @Boomthorkell, @AltanBakshi, @EldnahYm

    There is a strong case to be made that Austria being a separate country from Germany is illegitimate.

    • Replies: @HenryBaker
    @EldnahYm

    Didn't Austria separate to LARP as non-Germans and avoid war guilt that way? As long as they want to keep up the LARP, that's legitimate enough for me.

  • It strikes me that most of life's most exquisite comforts can be had with ~$10M or so. Apartment in the center of a world class city (luxury condo if in the Second World). Holiday home. Nice vacations and gourmet restaurants. Model-tier gf. ^ The virgin financial docs sleuthing to suggest Bad Orange Man isn't a...
  • @AltanBakshi
    @songbird

    Prostitution is present everywhere in China. In practice it's decriminalised.

    I have a conspiracy theory why prostitution is so legal and open in Germany in comparison with culturally similar Scandinavian countries. Allies probably thought that it's better that Germans don't have pent up sexual frustration, that if they have whores, there is lesser chance that a new Führer arises. After all "authoritarian personality" arises from suppressed sexuality, or something, isn't that what Adorno or Fromm wrote?

    Replies: @songbird, @EldnahYm

    I have a conspiracy theory why prostitution is so legal and open in Germany in comparison with culturally similar Scandinavian countries. Allies probably thought that it’s better that Germans don’t have pent up sexual frustration, that if they have whores, there is lesser chance that a new Führer arises. After all “authoritarian personality” arises from suppressed sexuality, or something, isn’t that what Adorno or Fromm wrote?

    That actually sounds like something a leftist intellectual of the time would come up with. However, given the state of Weimar Germany, it is an odd perspective to say the least.

  • @AltanBakshi
    @EldnahYm

    Take that back you... you worshipper of King of the Jews!

    Sorry I couldn't resist, still Christ is Great!

    Replies: @EldnahYm

    I’m not a Christian.

    • Replies: @AltanBakshi
    @EldnahYm

    May I ask what you are then?

    Replies: @AP

  • Before we talk about millions or billions, perhaps we should understand where it comes from…

    For those who are interested in understanding what money really is (and how money is essentially a ledger of who owes who and how much), this might be the most important youtube video you will ever watch. Thank me later…

    Soro’s foundation was about 20B when I managed a bit of it some time ago…no idea how much is it now.

    • Thanks: mal, EldnahYm, Yellowface Anon
  • @AltanBakshi
    @Rahan

    Begone devil, this is a Christian blog!

    Genuine Russian nationalists are supporters of Christian morality, let's see if Karlin is a fake nationalist like Bashibuzuk.

    Traditional/Apostolic/True Christianity is permissive towards prostitution, even St. Augustine said that visiting prostitute is preferable to the sin of self defilement. Some one of the Church Fathers said, that if prostitution would be illegal, world would go mad with lust, now I remember, it was St. Thomas de Aquinas, he was not a Father of Church, but a doctor, eh close enough. Still we can see how feminism is strongest in the countries where prostitution is harshly criminalised, like Sweden and USA.

    Buddhism shares the opinion of the Fathers and doctors of the Church, or goes little bit further, in Apostolic Christianity visiting prostitute is a minor sin for a layperson, in Buddhism it's not a sin at all, as long as it's vaginal sex, and one will take care, at least monetarily, of one's potential offspring that is produced from the intercourse.

    Both Buddhism and Christianity believe that one should use one's organ in a natural way, but in Buddhism contraception is not a such problem, like it's in Catholic Church.

    However Rahan, you are publicly promoting lust, which is always a sin, therefore you are a servant of the Dark One(namuci).

    Replies: @Rahan, @Daniel Chieh, @EldnahYm, @TheTotallyAnonymous, @songbird

    Looks like Kent Nationalist was right. You are demon a worshipper.

    • Replies: @AltanBakshi
    @EldnahYm

    Take that back you... you worshipper of King of the Jews!

    Sorry I couldn't resist, still Christ is Great!

    Replies: @EldnahYm

  • @vylepsena
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Russia is doing same mistake with Belarussia. If Russia have invested fraction of money to Russian nationalistic movement in Belorussia last quarter of century, Luka would be already dead or in exile and Russian paratroopers would be near Brest. Well, Russia would rather criple own economy - not support potash fertilizer production, no euro rafineries, no technology transfer for microelectronics and support Luka with low priced oil.
    Luka, will be out next year. There would be multi vector president which will just pave way for real Western puppet in 4-5 years. West will invest maximum 5 bln usd and Belorussia will be firmly in Western camp. And what is most important. Belorussians will love it.
    Help your self, God will help you.

    Replies: @Erik83, @Yevardian

    Low IQ post.. Luka is far more of a Russian patriot than most of various grifters and careerists in United Russia, and God knows the political situation in 4-5 years time. This sort of hyper-centralising mentality is the bane of Russian political history, look at the devolved albeit nonetheless extremely close cooperation of the Anglophone countries, or even the Scandinavian block.

    • Agree: EldnahYm
  • @The Big Red Scary
    @Escher

    Empirical observation, exaggerated for humorous effect. In reality, Bezos, Brin, Gates, Musk, and Zuckerberg each has a middle class man's wife. Page's is perhaps the prettiest of the tech billionaire wives, and even she has a somewhat crooked smile. In fact, I know a number of upper middle class men with drop-dead beautiful wives, so it is a mystery why the tech billionaires can't do better. Prediction: our kind host can do better, even before he "makes it".

    Replies: @EldnahYm, @Mulga Mumblebrain, @songbird, @nokangaroos

    In fact, I know a number of upper middle class men with drop-dead beautiful wives, so it is a mystery why the tech billionaires can’t do better.

    Women at sperm banks will often turn down a rich professional donor if they find out that they do work with computers. Being an unattractive autist is a bad reproductive strategy. Even money often doesn’t fix the problem.

    On questions of heredity and physiognomy, women are more based than men are.

  • From the indispensable BioHackInfo: China’s new Criminal Code, which came into effect four weeks ago on March 1st, has a new section dedicated to ‘illegal medical practices’, which makes it a punishable crime to create gene-edited babies, human clones and animal-human chimeras. The new section is an amendment to Article 336 of China’s Criminal Law,...
  • @EternalSpring
    That's assuming there are no black projects already underway to develop enhanced-intelligence humans. Come on, Anatoly. If you were in charge of Chinese military programs, would you scream from the rooftops about doing possibly-unethical probably-game changing research? Especially if for all you know your adversaries have already started their own research?

    There are all kinds of things technically less than legal in the world, at least for civilians. Breeding weapon-grade plutonium. Developing novel viruses. Yet somehow nukes and bioweapons exist. I wouldn't be surprised if ten-fifteen years from now China will start getting an usually large cohort of genius kids. 'CRISPR? Gene modifications? Must be increases in Chinese ecology, comrade'.

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin

    Black projects are overrated.

    Reliability is maxed out when you have quantity. Black projects can’t do quantity by definition (otherwise they get noticed). Limited scope for iterative improvement.

    It also implies there exist highly energetic, imaginative, and ambitious people in these bureaucratic structures. This isn’t true. Such people gravitate towards commercial structures.

    There’s a good chance China doesn’t even have thousands of nukes.

    There are Western and Russian theories that it does (e.g. see Karber and so forth which I have blogged about). But more likely this is just Indo-Europeans projecting their own psychopathy, paranoia, and lust for power onto “calmer”, much less warlike peoples.

    • Agree: Abelard Lindsey
    • Disagree: EldnahYm
    • Replies: @HenryBaker
    @Anatoly Karlin


    But more likely this is just Indo-Europeans projecting their own psychopathy, paranoia, and lust for power onto “calmer”, much less warlike peoples.
     
    That's a very interesting thought, actually. To what extent might our fears about China just be projection? Then again, a 'calm' people like the Japanese was very capable of massive warfare and imperialism. Why not the Chinamen...

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh

    , @Levtraro
    @Anatoly Karlin


    It also implies there exist highly energetic, imaginative, and ambitious people in these bureaucratic structures. This isn’t true. Such people gravitate towards commercial structures.
     
    Totally wrong. The State attracts ambitious mediocrities through the electoral process in western democracies, but it also attracts highly energetic, innovative and creative people through other means in the West and even more so in China. Commercial structures, with their limited scope (mundane profit, selling trinkets), only attract second-tier innovative, creative and ambitious people. The truly creative and innovative and ambitious gravitate towards special slots in the State structure created for them, where they enjoy seeing the vast impact of their work in the wider scope of national objectives.
    , @EternalSpring
    @Anatoly Karlin

    I cannot agree. I have to remind you that Manhattan Project was a black project. A bunch of incredibly smart, highly motivated people developed a weapon that forever changed the world in almost complete secrecy. If Americans can do it, why do you assume that Chinese can't? Or even wouldn't want to?

    Replies: @reiner Tor, @Anatoly Karlin

    , @EldnahYm
    @Anatoly Karlin


    It also implies there exist highly energetic, imaginative, and ambitious people in these bureaucratic structures. This isn’t true. Such people gravitate towards commercial structures.
     
    There are energetic, imaginative, and ambitious people in DARPA. You've been hanging around "rationalist" (I can't think of a more ill-fitting name) people too long. The private sector itself is next to useless for big projects unless they have large government funding, usually with some connection to the military. Most "new" technology around you is a result of former military research. Otherwise it's agricultural or energy research, research which wouldn't exist without government subsidies.

    The nearest exception I can think of is a field no one cares about, manufacturing, namely production processes. There, it's relatively cheap for private sector firms to carry out their own research and implement. But breakthroughs don't come often in that field. It's almost all small iterations.


    Reliability is maxed out when you have quantity. Black projects can’t do quantity by definition (otherwise they get noticed). Limited scope for iterative improvement.
     
    Maxing out reliability usually comes later in the lifespan of a technology. The critical research and early creation part comes earlier, when private sector incentives would not justify the research.

    Many technological deployments don't require the same type of reliability anyway as consumer products. It's relatively simple to figure if you're bomb is likely to work. It's mostly testing. You don't have to worry about all the myriad of dumb things a consumer will use the product for that could get you sued, or have to go through the same regulatory process. You can even get away with killing people on accident.

    Also, modern corporations have a strong tendency to become conservative, bureaucratic, and full of parasites. They're not very different from the public sector in this respect, contrary to popular belief.

    , @James Forrestal
    @Anatoly Karlin


    There are Western and Russian theories that it does (e.g. see Karber and so forth which I have blogged about). But more likely this is just Indo-Europeans projecting their own psychopathy, paranoia, and lust for power onto “calmer”, much less warlike peoples.
     
    Perhaps there's an element of truth to this in the current year -- though I suspect the Vietnamese would disagree. But attempting to trace it all the way back to the Yamnaya as a deep-seated cultural difference seems like a bit of a stretch. "Daniel Chieh" already mentioned the Warring States period. Then there's the guy who literally wrote the classic book on war...

    Also, Chieh's invocation of the alleged peaceful saintliness of Confucianism is a bit misleading. Legalism is what unified China, and while Confucianism served as the "official" ideal for most of Chinese history, the reality always incorporated major elements of legalism.

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

  • @HenryBaker
    @Anatoly Karlin


    But more likely this is just Indo-Europeans projecting their own psychopathy, paranoia, and lust for power onto “calmer”, much less warlike peoples.
     
    That's a very interesting thought, actually. To what extent might our fears about China just be projection? Then again, a 'calm' people like the Japanese was very capable of massive warfare and imperialism. Why not the Chinamen...

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh

    For better or worse, the Japanese have always been much more into war: much higher mobilization, greater valorization of violence, and a ruling caste of warriors rather than scholars. China seems to have exhausted themselves out of valorization of war, perhaps by the end of the Warring States era(possibly earlier, I read some analysis that even very early on, Chinese fiction saw the warrior’s lot as necessary, while Indo-European fiction was much more likely to portray it as a heroic).

    At any rate, Confucianists put soldiery among the lowest of professions and while the actual status of it was variable, its definitely has the association of low status, even to this day.

    • Agree: Anatoly Karlin, EldnahYm
    • Thanks: HenryBaker
    • LOL: Jatt Aryaa
    • Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Daniel Chieh

    Ancient
    Xia dynasty (2070 – 1600 BC)
    Shang dynasty (1600 – 1046 BC)
    Zhou dynasty (1046 – 256 BC)
    Spring and Autumn period (722 – 476 BC)
    Warring States period (476 – 221 BC)
    1st Reich
    Qin dynasty (221 – 206 BC)
    Han dynasty (206 BC – AD 220)
    Three Kingdoms (AD 220 – 280)
    Jin dynasty (AD 266 – 420)
    Northern and Southern dynasties (AD 420 – 589)
    2nd Reich
    Sui dynasty (AD 581 – 618)
    Tang dynasty (AD 618 – 907)
    Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms (AD 907 – 960)
    Song, Liao, Jin, and Western Xia dynasties (AD 960 – 1279)
    3rd Reich
    Yuan dynasty (AD 1271 – 1368)
    Ming dynasty (AD 1368 – 1644)
    Qing dynasty (AD 1644 – 1912)

    Spring and Autumn is comparable of European/Japanese feudal age, i.e. Europe from Middle Ages to French Revolution, Japan until Meiji Restoration. Where there was a military aristocracy like the knight/samurai.

    During Warring States it intensified to Total War with conscription like Europe from Napoleonic Wars to 1945.

    Since Qin/Han Unification two thousand years on its been a gradual transition from partial aristocracy to full meritocracy. Ming was an extreme Meritocracy where the Emperor’s own clan was barred from serving office.

    Han and Tang had good jock/nerd balance mostly so were kicking ass. But both went down because regional commanders got too powerful. (In Tang’s case it was another Caucasoid shaman lol)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Lushan

    Song tried to reign this in by having a centralized Imperial Garde subordinate to Meritocrats. This leads to high culture and GDP growth, but severe asswhuppin’ from Altaic warriors.

    So during 3rd Reich, Han nerds were mostly rule by Yuan and Qing Altaic horseriding jocks. The Ethnic Chinese Ming also had to rely Manchurian Frontier Heavy Calvary 关宁铁骑

    Until the gunpowder age, the best soldiers were Northern Altaic/Han calvary. By late Qing, the best infantryman came from militias from rugged mountainous southern regions like Hunan. But still led by meritocrats like Zeng Guofan.

    So it depends how you view the current PRC, if they are like the Song, then they are at all warlike.

    But you might view CCP Commies as a warrior aristocracy, since like the Banner Armies, Lin Biao’s Northeastern Field Army also conquered China from Manchuria.

    The aristocratic heir are Xi’s and other Princelings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princelings

    For the new meritocrats, the template of merit is instead of Neo-Confucianism, Marx-Leninism plus Socialism with Chinese Characteristics.

    Then PRC is more like Tang or Qing, which is moderately warlike, but limited within boundaries of mainland East Asia.

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms, @AltanBakshi

    , @AnonZero
    @Daniel Chieh

    Confucianism is no longer the dominant or even the proclaimed paradigm of China itself.

    In this matter, Mainland Chinese are not like Overseas Chinese. Quite divergent, really.

    In my interactions with both types (decades with the Overseas, and years on the Mainland), it seems to me that the Overseas are far more traditional, more conservative, punctilious, conformist and over-all more conscious of clan and lineage, with a nod to race and tribe. IE, they are quite classically "Confucian" in outlook. And Overseas Chinese really do exhibit all those media stereotypes of the Chinese - geeky, nerdy, judgmental, conformist. Confucian.

    A lot of these traits are muted, or even inverted in the Mainland. Mainlanders are all about country, race and tribe, with a nod to clan and lineage. Country over province, province over hometown, China over surname. They do work equally hard as any Chinese, but are less status conscious, and care less for pedigree, clan reputation or social censure, than Overseas Chinese. Mainlanders retain their most ancient tradition - Daoist Cosmic Spirituality - but express this via industry, science, technology and yes, even in the preparation for unavoidable war. Confucius is a valued philosopher, with many profound ideas, but far from worshipped.

    Chinese on the mainland neither worship war and warriors, nor disdain it. War simply is, it exists. Preferably avoided, deflected, and deferred. But war, should it come, must nonetheless be won, with however much violence and destruction that will entail. Even ultimate destruction. The military is a very prestigious profession in China, without people being in awe of soldiers.

    The analogy I would make is to compare China and Japan to the ancient Mediterranean, and/or Dark Ages Europe.

    In this analogy, Japan would be Sparta or the Vikings. A warlike, warrior-dominated culture.

    China would be the Republican Rome/Macedon hybrid, or Carolingian France/Germany. A culture able to wage war, having warriors, but not culturally focused on that one aspect.

    This is only one foreigner's experience, so YMMV.

    Replies: @AltanBakshi

  • @reiner Tor
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms


    Without significant change in creativity levels, I see unlikely that GDP per capita levels reach Germany or even Japan’s level.
     
    It will have Korean levels of creativity and thus should have similar GDP, but it will have way better economies of scale, so it will be better. Perhaps between Japan and South Korea. Perhaps even Japanese level.

    Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain, @EldnahYm, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Economy of scale is good for producing more stuff. That’s all. You need people to buy that stuff to generate income. Not a problem in a war economy, but otherwise economy of scale doesn’t automatically make your GDP per capita higher. There is a reason Switzerland is not a backwater.

  • @Anatoly Karlin
    @EternalSpring

    Black projects are overrated.

    Reliability is maxed out when you have quantity. Black projects can't do quantity by definition (otherwise they get noticed). Limited scope for iterative improvement.

    It also implies there exist highly energetic, imaginative, and ambitious people in these bureaucratic structures. This isn't true. Such people gravitate towards commercial structures.

    There's a good chance China doesn't even have thousands of nukes.

    There are Western and Russian theories that it does (e.g. see Karber and so forth which I have blogged about). But more likely this is just Indo-Europeans projecting their own psychopathy, paranoia, and lust for power onto "calmer", much less warlike peoples.

    Replies: @HenryBaker, @Levtraro, @EternalSpring, @EldnahYm, @James Forrestal

    It also implies there exist highly energetic, imaginative, and ambitious people in these bureaucratic structures. This isn’t true. Such people gravitate towards commercial structures.

    There are energetic, imaginative, and ambitious people in DARPA. You’ve been hanging around “rationalist” (I can’t think of a more ill-fitting name) people too long. The private sector itself is next to useless for big projects unless they have large government funding, usually with some connection to the military. Most “new” technology around you is a result of former military research. Otherwise it’s agricultural or energy research, research which wouldn’t exist without government subsidies.

    The nearest exception I can think of is a field no one cares about, manufacturing, namely production processes. There, it’s relatively cheap for private sector firms to carry out their own research and implement. But breakthroughs don’t come often in that field. It’s almost all small iterations.

    Reliability is maxed out when you have quantity. Black projects can’t do quantity by definition (otherwise they get noticed). Limited scope for iterative improvement.

    Maxing out reliability usually comes later in the lifespan of a technology. The critical research and early creation part comes earlier, when private sector incentives would not justify the research.

    Many technological deployments don’t require the same type of reliability anyway as consumer products. It’s relatively simple to figure if you’re bomb is likely to work. It’s mostly testing. You don’t have to worry about all the myriad of dumb things a consumer will use the product for that could get you sued, or have to go through the same regulatory process. You can even get away with killing people on accident.

    Also, modern corporations have a strong tendency to become conservative, bureaucratic, and full of parasites. They’re not very different from the public sector in this respect, contrary to popular belief.

  • @Anatoly Karlin
    @EternalSpring

    Black projects are overrated.

    Reliability is maxed out when you have quantity. Black projects can't do quantity by definition (otherwise they get noticed). Limited scope for iterative improvement.

    It also implies there exist highly energetic, imaginative, and ambitious people in these bureaucratic structures. This isn't true. Such people gravitate towards commercial structures.

    There's a good chance China doesn't even have thousands of nukes.

    There are Western and Russian theories that it does (e.g. see Karber and so forth which I have blogged about). But more likely this is just Indo-Europeans projecting their own psychopathy, paranoia, and lust for power onto "calmer", much less warlike peoples.

    Replies: @HenryBaker, @Levtraro, @EternalSpring, @EldnahYm, @James Forrestal

    I cannot agree. I have to remind you that Manhattan Project was a black project. A bunch of incredibly smart, highly motivated people developed a weapon that forever changed the world in almost complete secrecy. If Americans can do it, why do you assume that Chinese can’t? Or even wouldn’t want to?

    • Agree: EldnahYm
    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    @EternalSpring

    But it was in wartime. It couldn’t have been done in peacetime. Also more difficult in the age of the internet and ubiquitous smartphones and cameras.

    Replies: @EternalSpring, @utu

    , @Anatoly Karlin
    @EternalSpring


    A bunch of incredibly smart, highly motivated people developed a weapon that forever changed the world in almost complete secrecy.
     
    In addition to what reiner Tor said-

    In 1942, the Soviets noticed that publications on nuclear research had completely stopped in Western physics journals and made the correct conclusions from that. In today's hyper-globalized world, with prominent researchers having profiles on multiple databases, do you really think marshalling the world's top people in some strategic sphere would go unnoticed?

    Replies: @utu, @James Forrestal

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  • mal says:
    @Thulean Friend
    @HenryBaker


    Could you please elaborate on why you think aging societies need to rely on immigration instead of fixing birth rates or weathering the storm?
     
    One does not exclude the other. I am in favor of pro-natalist policies and high immigration. There is no mutually exclusive relationship and those who claim otherwise typically have other reasons to oppose immigration (racial) but are afraid to say so publicly.

    P.S. there is no "storm".


    Second, does this mean you’re just another pro-immigration neolib?
     
    I am harshly critical of neoliberalism on many accounts but on immigration, at least, they are more correct than rightoids. Note that this in practice just means "less wrong".

    For one thing, neoliberals have a tabula rasa world view. There is increasing evidence that people's ethical behaviour is in fact hardwired genetically, much like most of our intelligence. This makes intuitive sense. Think back to your childhood. Most people have likely not fundamentally changed. Kind kids grew up to be kind adults. Shitty kids grew up to be shitty people. There is no perfect linear relationship but it holds more true than the tabula rasa explanation.

    As such, any immigration policy should test not just skills/intelligence but also ethics. We now have limited tools to do this, but there are some heuristics we can use. Women tend to be more ethical than manoids across the board. Hence we should favour women in our immigration systems. Second, intelligent people are more pro-social than less intelligent people on a range of metrics (co-operativeness, less likely to steal, less likely to be corrupt etc etc). These are just some of the ways that we can - and should - bias our immigration policies.

    I'd radically cut down on refugee migration, but increase funding for sites where the needs are the greatest. Generally speaking, I find filters of nationality, race, religion or culture is completely useless. In that sense, neoliberals are correct. But they are too lax on other aspects, where they often fall short.

    In short-to-medium run the world would immensely profit from capping manoids to ~20% of the population. This would be beneficial until we have the genetic engineering tools to remake large parts of humanity to make it less violent, more pro-social and so on. At that point, the ratio could potentially go up, though we still have to ponder aesthetic questions that feminine beauty is far superior to manoid ugliness, so perhaps there is an inherent value in keeping manoids capped at 20% even after we fix their structural deficiencies for the simple reason that streets with women tend to be beautiful than streets with manoids.

    Replies: @songbird, @Yellowface Anon, @Blinky Bill, @HenryBaker, @Anatoly Karlin, @mal

    streets with women tend to be beautiful than streets with manoids.

    Well OK, but what are you going to do when all those women get 20 cats and go crazy? Nobody would ride bicycles in cities then for fear of being chased down by packs of feral cats and eaten.

    Would you give up your urban renewal dream?

    • LOL: EldnahYm
  • @Bashibuzuk
    @EldnahYm


    I would predict the end of neoliberalism and maybe a new form of serfdom.
     
    A new caste system perhaps ?

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @EldnahYm

    I don’t understand caste that well. My sense is that caste is a conservative system in the sense that it preserves (or exaggerates) differences in social arrangements society wide. So different groups of people have different temples where they worship, different jobs, etc. Modernity destroys cultural differences and eliminates all connection to the past to create a generic consumer. I don’t think there is enough stability in the current system to allow caste systems to develop. Some pathetic white collar or professional types might wish to identify with people who do similar work as them, but their children will have to jump through ever more hurdles just to achieve the same results as their parents(and they will have less children).

    Whereas with techno-serfdom I don’t see any big changes being necessary, just an acceleration of what is already happening. Increased personal debts, less ownership of physical goods and more subscriptions/tenant systems, we’re already on our way there.

    • Agree: Yellowface Anon
  • @HenryBaker
    @Bashibuzuk

    Deterritorialization by technology will only accelerate as communications continue to improve. However, I'd propose that we may simply see current-day trends accelerating. The West, Russia and China may increasingly cut off information flows from each other, leading to different blocs with denationalized identities. The future may belong to deracinated technocracy, but the West will have a neolib variant, China authoritarian with a one-party state, and who knows where Russia will end up. In my (perhaps simplistic view) the West seems to be trying damn hard to drive them into the arms of China.

    But yeah nationalism is mostly a pointless game at this point.

    Replies: @EldnahYm, @Dmitry

    Deterritorialization by technology will only accelerate as communications continue to improve. However, I’d propose that we may simply see current-day trends accelerating. The West, Russia and China may increasingly cut off information flows from each other, leading to different blocs with denationalized identities. The future may belong to deracinated technocracy, but the West will have a neolib variant, China authoritarian with a one-party state, and who knows where Russia will end up. In my (perhaps simplistic view) the West seems to be trying damn hard to drive them into the arms of China.

    If present trends were to accelerate, I don’t think neoliberalism will have any teeth left. Economic growth is decreasing and demographic trends are going in the wrong direction. If I thought present trends were to accelerate, I would predict the end of neoliberalism and maybe a new form of serfdom.

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @EldnahYm


    I would predict the end of neoliberalism and maybe a new form of serfdom.
     
    A new caste system perhaps ?

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @EldnahYm

  • @Urbyn
    Russia doesn't have laws on amnesty, so illegal aliens will always be illegal aliens - this helps keep them living in Russia on a 'rotative' or seasonal basis, making money in Russia and sending/spending it back home because the harsh policies on illegal aliens don't allow for a tranquil life, so they don't even consider establishing themselves permanently, unlike e.g. illegal aliens from Central America who manage to live quite an undisturbed life once they establish themselves in the United States. The patriotic Russian reality is about to be abandoned. Excerpts from Tass:

    New law will help migrants staying in Russia legalize their status - Interior Ministry

    MOSCOW, April 4. /TASS/. The Interior Ministry is developing a bill that will allow foreigners and persons without citizenship to legalize their stay in Russia, despite the existing violations, the ministry’s press service told TASS.

    "The bill will determine the procedure and conditions for the stay of foreign citizens and persons without citizenship who find themselves in special circumstances," the ministry’s spokesman said.

    The Interior Ministry reported that the development of the draft law is being carried out as part of a large-scale work on reforming the migration legislation of the Russian Federation in accordance with the implementation of the Concept of State Migration Policy. The concept of the bill has been approved by the government.

    The ministry noted that now the so-called "migration amnesty", which allows any state agency or official to make a decision on the legal status of foreigners, is absent at the legislative level in Russia.

    "This category of citizens cannot be held administratively liable for violation of the rules of entry into the Russian Federation, the regime of stay (residence), illegal employment or violation of immigration rules, if such violations were identified in connection with the submission by these persons of an application to recognize them as citizens of the Russian Federation," the official said.
     

    They will even cancel previous infractions, lol.

    I know that there are Jewish advisers to Putin, at least two, because I checked the names I came across on Wikipedia in the past. I wonder if there's a Jew somewhere whispering amnesty as a solution for solving the demographic problem. Seriously, I checked Manizha, a Tajik who will represent Russia at Eurovision with a feminist and implicitly anti-male song - lyrics are about evil men and domestic violence, and how it's sexist to encourage women to look pretty and have children - and I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw that BOTH writers and producers are Jewish.

    The reaction to the song was negative among some senior (and influential) Russian politicans, Putin allies, wondering what was the process, who's behind her selection. TV presenter Ivan Urgant came to Manizha's defense, so I googled who this guy is, and lo and behold, another Jew.

    If today illegal aliens and migrants who violate immigration law are punished (e.g. entry ban), tomorrow they will have the opportunity to become citizens and their brethren back home will be alerted that if they fool the authorities for a long period, they can be awarded citizenship. This is such a subversive law, it reminds me of stories documented by Kevin MacDonald and others on TOO about Jewish activists and organizations using the opportunity presented by the draft process of new laws to sneak in proposals that will hurt the white hosts, often succeeding. Central Asians will love it.

    Replies: @Thulean Friend, @Bashibuzuk

    Buddy, oy vey!

    It’s an open secret: Putin is close to Chabad Lubavitch, just like Trump is. Lo and behold, from Russian Israeli sources:

    https://detaly.co.il/kak-habad-obespechivaet-svyaz-mezhdu-trampom-i-putinym/

    Here is Soloviov / Shapiro (the chief Putinist propaganda mouthpiece) during his pilgrimage to Jerusalem with his Chabad friend:

    When Devil plays chess he plays on the four ends of the table.

    Oy gevalt!

    On my watch it’s 7:40 already.

    Gotta run…

    (Lively Klyazmer music playing in the background).

    • Agree: EldnahYm
  • @Thulean Friend
    @Bashibuzuk

    Aren't you just jealous that Putin is more successful than you?

    https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1378071630639955970

    Jealousy is often a strong predictor of anti-Semitic feelings.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @EldnahYm

    Jealousy is often a strong predictor of anti-Semitic feelings.

    I don’t think a single conflict in history between Jews and another group can be explained by jealousy.

  • Interesting links. (1) Len Sassaman and Satoshi: a Cypherpunk History. This is, I think, the strongest case for someone being Satoshi that I have read to date. All I can say is that IF it was him, he played the double act VERY well. (2) Gregoire Canlorbe (Postil Magazine) - A conversation with Emil O.W....
  • @Mikel
    @mal


    Old rules don’t really apply anymore.
     
    Yes sure, that's also what economists thought in the 50s and 60s and then stagflation hit them like a ton of bricks.

    I don't think that economic and monetary authorities in the major economies really know too well what they are doing but fortunately they don't believe in cure-all medicines as much as you do. QE and its equivalents elsewhere were in fact an ad hoc experiment under circumstances they were not prepared for.

    Replies: @mal, @EldnahYm

    I don’t think that economic and monetary authorities in the major economies really know too well what they are doing

    On this you are certainly right.

  • @mal
    @EldnahYm


    Well, for example, the Federal Reserve balance sheet was reduced(slightly) last June, so your claim that it will never be reduced is surely false. To say the Federal Reserve balance sheet shows a long-term trend of increase is not the same as saying it will never decrease, nor does it necessarily mean the balance sheet must be at x rate to sustain such and such levels of economic growth or living standards.
     
    That's nitpicking. So what if got reduced slightly after expanding by $trillions. They tried reducing the balance sheet in 2018 by a few hundred $billion and stock market tanked and economy started going off the rails. The overall trend is going to be up.

    You can think of it that way, but the operating word here is “basically.” QE is not permanent, bonds issued to private banking that pay out interest can be re-instated at any time. Also, the current laborious process of creating new “debt” (scare quotes for your benefit) instruments which are then swapped creates a lot of unnecessary makework. A system of overt monetary financing would eliminate this. So there is a difference, although it can be argued that it’s insignificant.
     
    With the amount of financing US Gov will require going forward, QE will have to become permanent. I agree that the current system contains a lot of unnecessary makework.


    In neither scenario is it the case that the U.S. government is being financed by the private sector.
     
    I think we are in agreement here as well.

    The Federal Reserve sets the federal funds rate, which is sufficient to control interest rates. Demand for money is also controlled by the federal government, by the requirement of its use to settle federal transactions(most crucially tax payment) and by setting reserve requirements. Not only is the above paragraph incorrect, the view it espouses is literally the opposite of MMT:
     
    Federal Reserve sets whatever it wants to. Normally its overnight rates but if it wants to, it will do 'Operation Twist' or 'Yield Curve Control' (rate control for longer term securities) or even 'SPV' (special purpose vehicle for corporate bond purchase). If it wants to, Fed will price used toilet paper.

    As for QE mechanics, it withdraws assets (such as government debt) from the market thus raising the price of the remaining assets and lowering interest rates. Even with QE, interest expense has become one of the largest items in Federal Government budget. Without QE, interest payments would consume most of the budget and US government would be unable to meet its obligations. Or it would have to issue substantially more paper, far more than private market would be able to absorb. Interest payments to the Fed are a different story.

    Replies: @EldnahYm

    That’s nitpicking. So what if got reduced slightly after expanding by $trillions. They tried reducing the balance sheet in 2018 by a few hundred $billion and stock market tanked and economy started going off the rails. The overall trend is going to be up.

    It might be nitpicking, but I don’t see any reason to say something won’t or can’t happen. Are you just trying to use more rhetorically assertive language to be convincing? Why not just say “the overall trend is going to be up” at the beginning? Otherwise it sounds like you have some theory about why the Central Bank balance sheet cannot got down, when it can in fact go down(whether that would be desirable is a different discussion).

    As for QE mechanics, it withdraws assets (such as government debt) from the market thus raising the price of the remaining assets and lowering interest rates.

    Reducing interest payments to the private sector from the largest interest payer in the economy, namely the U.S. government, is deflationary. What I am saying here is the standard line from MMT people. Example: http://moslereconomics.com/2014/10/13/there-is-no-right-time-for-the-fed-to-raise-rates/

    It is true that lower borrowing costs combined with low aggregate demand often leads to asset price inflation(but not inflation elsewhere). This is an indirect effect of quantitative easing.

    Even with QE, interest expense has become one of the largest items in Federal Government budget. Without QE, interest payments would consume most of the budget and US government would be unable to meet its obligations. Or it would have to issue substantially more paper, far more than private market would be able to absorb. Interest payments to the Fed are a different story.

    Interest outlays are 5% of the budget. In any case, why would the U.S. government be unable to meet its obligations, whatever the number?

    To bring the topic back to the question of expanding debt, a Keynesian argument would be that the increased federal debt, low growth rates, and low inflation are a symptom of decreased aggregate demand. In a situation where aggregate demand is increased, tax receipts also increase while the economy grows, and debt need not grow. One might argue that many of the general symptoms you are describing(and seem to be interpreting as the “cost” of maintaining growth) are the result of overemphasis on monetary policy and not enough fiscal. If this is not the case, and there is something “structural” (whatever that means) preventing the economy from growing much, then perhaps we shouldn’t be targeting GDP growth anymore.

  • @Mikel
    @EldnahYm

    The a=l+e equation (identity if you prefer) holds always. It doesn't matter that central banks have legal power to alter the magnitude of both sides.

    Replies: @EldnahYm

    Thanks for confirming what I said.

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  • Biden Wants You Out of Your Car and on the Train

    His $2 trillion plan even envisons tearing down some freeways. Biden already 10X better than Trump, not that it was stiff competition.

    Americans Are Buying Up Tel Aviv Homes, Destroying the City in the Process

    The eternal burger menace must be stopped, its dangerous advance checked for humanity to prosper.

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  • @mal
    @Mikel


    I know that you’re not particularly interested in learning anything from conventional economics and that you are absolutely certain that your economic recipes are correct but I think I’ll go ahead and tell you a couple of things nonetheless.
     
    Conventional economics is outdated, world doesn't work like that anymore. Even microeconomics is getting increasingly outdated i think. When majority of your economy increasingly consists of veblen goods and status seeking becomes key economic activity, textbook laws of supply and demand no longer offer satisfactory explanations.

    In particular, on the asset side of their balance sheet central banks have private and public securities that they have purchased, gold and capital. On the liabilities side they have reserves from associated banks, capital and currency in circulation. When one side of their balance sheet increases or declines so must the other.
     

    The Fed asset side consists of US Gov debt and mortgage derivatives, but they can buy used toilet paper if they wanted to. They create 'reserves' out of thin air which banks then use to create money out thin air, and since 2008 there is no real difference because banks operate in 'excess reserve' regime meaning Fed gave them $trillions more than they need and today reserve requirement is 0% which basically means banks are free to print as much money out of thin air as they want to. And yet they still fail. Banks may think they own Federal Reserve, but Fed will end up consuming them all as banks have become worse than useless.

    The other thing that too many people are forgetting today is that the main purpose of central banks, unlike private banks, is not to make profits but to maintain the value of the currency, ie keep price stability.
     
    Price stability is certainly NOT the purpose of Central Banks, doesn't matter what textbook says. Just listen to Bank officials themselves - they WANT 2% inflation and will be happy with more. And they are correct. That is absolutely NOT price stability.

    Central banks only have the ability to maintain price stability when they have the means to influence the market, such as through open market operations. If the quality of their assets is poor they won’t be able to perform their main duty and they might even be unable to confront their liabilities.
     
    Central Banks set the quality of assets. If they say used toilet paper is worth $1,000,000, then it will be worth $1,000,000. Amazing thing they won't even have to buy it, just wink and promise to. Dumb 'free market' will. If Fed declares it will buy Mikel's used toilet paper at whatever price, you will always have a buyer for it secure in the hope to flip it to the Fed. And of course, Fed will buy it eventually like the mortgage backed securities.

    It doesn’t matter that right now the prospects of inflation are small or high. Central banks can only acquire “unlimited” amounts of debt if they’re willing to sacrifice their ability to accomplish their main statutory goal.
     
    Central Bank main goal is to ensure smooth government operation in order to prevent economic and social collapse. All other goals are immaterial. They will buy whatever in unlimited quantity in order to accomplish it.

    Replies: @EldnahYm, @Mikel

    Conventional economics is outdated, world doesn’t work like that anymore.

    Conventional economics was never correct.

    The Fed asset side consists of US Gov debt and mortgage derivatives, but they can buy used toilet paper if they wanted to. They create ‘reserves’ out of thin air which banks then use to create money out thin air, and since 2008 there is no real difference because banks operate in ‘excess reserve’ regime meaning Fed gave them $trillions more than they need and today reserve requirement is 0% which basically means banks are free to print as much money out of thin air as they want to.

    Banks do not use reserves to create money. Banks create money out of thin air first to meet demand, then find ways to fund it. When bank loans are paid off or go into default, the money the banks created is thereby removed from the economy. The demand for loans and the bank’s willingness to lend are the important variables, if these are unchanged and you get increased reserves, excess reserves is the result.

    • Replies: @mal
    @EldnahYm


    Banks do not use reserves to create money.
     
    True, but they need reserves for regulatory requirements. Of course, with excess reserves its kinda a moot point, or at least supposed to be in theory (see 2019 repo crisis).

    All i have to say about that is banks are extremely lucky that pandemic happened exactly when it did. They were running out of room rolling over those 42 day 'overnight' (LOL) repos.
  • @Mikel
    @mal

    I know that you're not particularly interested in learning anything from conventional economics and that you are absolutely certain that your economic recipes are correct but I think I'll go ahead and tell you a couple of things nonetheless.

    One of the things you neo printing machine advocates forget is that central banks are... banks, as should be obvious from their name. This means that they have, like all banks, a balance sheet that must obey the assets=liabilities+equity equation.

    In particular, on the asset side of their balance sheet central banks have private and public securities that they have purchased, gold and capital. On the liabilities side they have reserves from associated banks, capital and currency in circulation. When one side of their balance sheet increases or declines so must the other.

    The other thing that too many people are forgetting today is that the main purpose of central banks, unlike private banks, is not to make profits but to maintain the value of the currency, ie keep price stability.

    Central banks only have the ability to maintain price stability when they have the means to influence the market, such as through open market operations. If the quality of their assets is poor they won't be able to perform their main duty and they might even be unable to confront their liabilities.

    It doesn't matter that right now the prospects of inflation are small or high. Central banks can only acquire "unlimited" amounts of debt if they're willing to sacrifice their ability to accomplish their main statutory goal.

    Replies: @mal, @EldnahYm

    An assets = liabilities + equation is not a rule central banks must follow, it’s just an identity which describes what happens when central banks carry out some operation. Central bank assets and liabilities are creations of central banks. The equation just describes what happens when a particular account is credited or debited.

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @EldnahYm

    The a=l+e equation (identity if you prefer) holds always. It doesn't matter that central banks have legal power to alter the magnitude of both sides.

    Replies: @EldnahYm

  • @mal
    @EldnahYm


    No it isn’t. Quantitative easing is an old idea Keynes suggested in 1930 in Chapter 37 of his Treatise on Money:
     
    Keynes wrote about running government budget deficit in bad times and surplus in good times. We are never running a surplus, and we are never going to reduce Federal Reserve balance sheet. Federal Reserve balance sheet represents direct monetization of government debt, which is basically what MMT describes. Congress authorizes spending, Treasury funds it via banking system and ultimately the Fed.


    Quantitative easing is an asset swap to banks of central bank reserves for other securities. It has nothing to do with MMT, as MMT people do not believe governments need to issue debt at all.

     

    Debt held by the Federal Reserve isn't really debt. By law, Fed returns excess profits (such as interest on bonds) to US Treasury. Its a weird situation where US Gov is paying itself to borrow. It is true that our definitions haven't caught up yet and we still call US government debt a 'debt'. But it really isn't anymore - nobody buys 10 year bond for glorious 1% yield guaranteed to lose money in real terms. People buy 10 year bonds as capital stock, betting on price appreciation (further yield decline).

    Basically US Government issues stocks to absorb excess liquidity and throttle down inflation. Same as any other financial asset creation. Thinking about this process as 'debt', that is, something to be repaid (as per Keynes) is no longer valid. MMT is a better description for what's going on i think.

    Basically QE provides end demand for US Government 'debt' that nobody would buy otherwise, at least not at interest rate US government requires to survive. Without QE US Gov would run out of money due to interest on debt skyrocketing and US economy would collapse in a crisis that would be worse than Great Depression.

    Replies: @Mikel, @EldnahYm

    Keynes wrote about running government budget deficit in bad times and surplus in good times.

    He did. Just not in any of the passages I quoted, as Keynes’ ideas about cyclical fiscal policy are irrelevant to his point about monetary policy setting interest rates to zero.

    We are never running a surplus, and we are never going to reduce Federal Reserve balance sheet.

    Well, for example, the Federal Reserve balance sheet was reduced(slightly) last June, so your claim that it will never be reduced is surely false. To say the Federal Reserve balance sheet shows a long-term trend of increase is not the same as saying it will never decrease, nor does it necessarily mean the balance sheet must be at x rate to sustain such and such levels of economic growth or living standards.

    Federal Reserve balance sheet represents direct monetization of government debt, which is basically what MMT describes. Congress authorizes spending, Treasury funds it via banking system and ultimately the Fed.

    You can think of it that way, but the operating word here is “basically.” QE is not permanent, bonds issued to private banking that pay out interest can be re-instated at any time. Also, the current laborious process of creating new “debt” (scare quotes for your benefit) instruments which are then swapped creates a lot of unnecessary makework. A system of overt monetary financing would eliminate this. So there is a difference, although it can be argued that it’s insignificant.

    Debt held by the Federal Reserve isn’t really debt. By law, Fed returns excess profits (such as interest on bonds) to US Treasury. Its a weird situation where US Gov is paying itself to borrow. It is true that our definitions haven’t caught up yet and we still call US government debt a ‘debt’. But it really isn’t anymore – nobody buys 10 year bond for glorious 1% yield guaranteed to lose money in real terms. People buy 10 year bonds as capital stock, betting on price appreciation (further yield decline).

    The first sentence is playing around with definitions. I can accept one definition of debt, you can accept another, or we can agree to a definition, but no new information is revealed either way. Personally, the only difference I see is that in one scenario the government chooses to go for corporate welfare in the form of paying interest to private institutions, in the other, it does not. In neither scenario is it the case that the U.S. government is being financed by the private sector.

    Basically US Government issues stocks to absorb excess liquidity and throttle down inflation. Same as any other financial asset creation. Thinking about this process as ‘debt’, that is, something to be repaid (as per Keynes) is no longer valid. MMT is a better description for what’s going on i think.

    Ideas have changed since 1930, and so has the financial system. For example, Britain was technically still on the gold standard in 1930, they would abandon it the next year(with Keynes’ support). In the MMT account of things, “debt” just represents an accounting relationship. The key distinction is between issues of currency and users of currency.

    Basically QE provides end demand for US Government ‘debt’ that nobody would buy otherwise, at least not at interest rate US government requires to survive. Without QE US Gov would run out of money due to interest on debt skyrocketing and US economy would collapse in a crisis that would be worse than Great Depression.

    The Federal Reserve sets the federal funds rate, which is sufficient to control interest rates. Demand for money is also controlled by the federal government, by the requirement of its use to settle federal transactions(most crucially tax payment) and by setting reserve requirements. Not only is the above paragraph incorrect, the view it espouses is literally the opposite of MMT:

    http://moslereconomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/The-Natural-Rate-of-Interest-is-Zero.pdf
    https://modernmoneynetwork.org/sites/default/files/biblio/Setting%20Interest%20Rates%20in%20the%20Modern%20Era.pdf

    • Replies: @mal
    @EldnahYm


    Well, for example, the Federal Reserve balance sheet was reduced(slightly) last June, so your claim that it will never be reduced is surely false. To say the Federal Reserve balance sheet shows a long-term trend of increase is not the same as saying it will never decrease, nor does it necessarily mean the balance sheet must be at x rate to sustain such and such levels of economic growth or living standards.
     
    That's nitpicking. So what if got reduced slightly after expanding by $trillions. They tried reducing the balance sheet in 2018 by a few hundred $billion and stock market tanked and economy started going off the rails. The overall trend is going to be up.

    You can think of it that way, but the operating word here is “basically.” QE is not permanent, bonds issued to private banking that pay out interest can be re-instated at any time. Also, the current laborious process of creating new “debt” (scare quotes for your benefit) instruments which are then swapped creates a lot of unnecessary makework. A system of overt monetary financing would eliminate this. So there is a difference, although it can be argued that it’s insignificant.
     
    With the amount of financing US Gov will require going forward, QE will have to become permanent. I agree that the current system contains a lot of unnecessary makework.


    In neither scenario is it the case that the U.S. government is being financed by the private sector.
     
    I think we are in agreement here as well.

    The Federal Reserve sets the federal funds rate, which is sufficient to control interest rates. Demand for money is also controlled by the federal government, by the requirement of its use to settle federal transactions(most crucially tax payment) and by setting reserve requirements. Not only is the above paragraph incorrect, the view it espouses is literally the opposite of MMT:
     
    Federal Reserve sets whatever it wants to. Normally its overnight rates but if it wants to, it will do 'Operation Twist' or 'Yield Curve Control' (rate control for longer term securities) or even 'SPV' (special purpose vehicle for corporate bond purchase). If it wants to, Fed will price used toilet paper.

    As for QE mechanics, it withdraws assets (such as government debt) from the market thus raising the price of the remaining assets and lowering interest rates. Even with QE, interest expense has become one of the largest items in Federal Government budget. Without QE, interest payments would consume most of the budget and US government would be unable to meet its obligations. Or it would have to issue substantially more paper, far more than private market would be able to absorb. Interest payments to the Fed are a different story.

    Replies: @EldnahYm

  • @A123
    @Bashibuzuk

    The great weakness of traditional, Austerity monetary theory was the need to raise money (e.g. bonds) before spending money. This leads to avoidable painful declines. The events in Greece were a classic example of brutality via German school, Austerity monetary theory.

    The strength of MMT is the ability to spend money, then pull excess out of circulation on the back-end. In essence, it seems like MMT is already official policy with "Quantitative Easing". The professionals are just dancing to avoid the term MMT.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @mal, @Blinky Bill, @EldnahYm

    In essence, it seems like MMT is already official policy with “Quantitative Easing”. The professionals are just dancing to avoid the term MMT.

    No it isn’t. Quantitative easing is an old idea Keynes suggested in 1930 in Chapter 37 of his Treatise on Money:

    My remedy in the event of the obstinate persistence of a slump would consist, therefore, in the purchase of securities by the central bank until the long-term market rate of interest has been brought down to the limiting point, which we shall have to admit a few paragraphs further on. It should not be beyond the power of a central bank (international complications apart) to bring down the long-term market rate of interest to any figure at which it is itself prepared to buy long-term securities. For the bearishness of the capitalist public is never very obstinate, and when the rate of interest on savings deposits is next door to nothing the saturation point can fairly soon be reached. If the central bank supplies the member banks with more funds than they can lend at short term, in the first place the short-term rate of interest will decline towards zero, and in the second place the member banks will soon begin, if only to maintain their profits, to second the efforts of the central bank by themselves buying securities. This means that the price of bonds will rise unless there are many persons to be found who, as they see the prices of long-term bonds rising, prefer to sell them and hold the proceeds liquid at a very low rate of interest…If the effect of such measures is to raise the price of ‘equities’ (e.g. ordinary shares) more than the price of bonds, no harm in a time of slump will result from this; for investment can be stimulated by its being unusually easy to raise resources by the sale of ordinary shares as well as by high bond prices. Moreover, a very excessive price for equities is not likely to occur at a time of depression and business losses.

    Thus I see small reason to doubt that the central bank can produce a large effect on the cost of raising new resources for long-term investment, if it is prepared to persist with its open-market policy far enough.

    He later discovered that an increase in share prices would not necessarily lead to investment, which he explained by liquidity preference in his 1936 General Theory:

    For whilst an increase in the quantity of money may be expected, cet. par., to reduce the rate of interest, this will not happen if the liquidity-preferences of the public are increasing more than the quantity of money; and whilst a decline in the rate of interest may be expected, cet. par., to increase the volume of investment, this will not happen if the schedule of the marginal efficiency of capital is falling more rapidly than the rate of interest; and whilst an increase in the volume of investment may be expected, cet. par., to increase employment, this may not happen if the propensity to consume is falling off.

    Needless to say, despite being one of the most famous economists, almost no one has learned anything from Keynes work.

    Quantitative easing is an asset swap to banks of central bank reserves for other securities. It has nothing to do with MMT, as MMT people do not believe governments need to issue debt at all. See here: http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=31715

    To drive the point home, I will quote from Ben Bernanke himself(all of this I’m stealing from Jan Kregel*) about the purpose of quantitative easing:

    The monetary authorities can issue as much money as they like. Hence, if the price level were truly independent of money issuance, then the monetary authorities could use the money they create to acquire indefinite quantities of goods and assets. This is manifestly impossible in equilibrium. Therefore money issuance must ultimately raise the price level, even if nominal interest rates are bounded at zero

    None of this is MMT. Bernanke’s argument is from a Quantity Theory of Money perspective(the same one Keynes used in 1930, and later rejected in his General Theory) and he is also assuming equilibrium. MMT rejects general equilibrium or similar ideas and believes in endogenous money.

    * http://www.levyinstitute.org/conferences/minsky2013/D2_S6_Kregel.pdf are Kregel’s slides from his presentation and

    is the actual talk

    • Thanks: Bashibuzuk
    • Replies: @mal
    @EldnahYm


    No it isn’t. Quantitative easing is an old idea Keynes suggested in 1930 in Chapter 37 of his Treatise on Money:
     
    Keynes wrote about running government budget deficit in bad times and surplus in good times. We are never running a surplus, and we are never going to reduce Federal Reserve balance sheet. Federal Reserve balance sheet represents direct monetization of government debt, which is basically what MMT describes. Congress authorizes spending, Treasury funds it via banking system and ultimately the Fed.


    Quantitative easing is an asset swap to banks of central bank reserves for other securities. It has nothing to do with MMT, as MMT people do not believe governments need to issue debt at all.

     

    Debt held by the Federal Reserve isn't really debt. By law, Fed returns excess profits (such as interest on bonds) to US Treasury. Its a weird situation where US Gov is paying itself to borrow. It is true that our definitions haven't caught up yet and we still call US government debt a 'debt'. But it really isn't anymore - nobody buys 10 year bond for glorious 1% yield guaranteed to lose money in real terms. People buy 10 year bonds as capital stock, betting on price appreciation (further yield decline).

    Basically US Government issues stocks to absorb excess liquidity and throttle down inflation. Same as any other financial asset creation. Thinking about this process as 'debt', that is, something to be repaid (as per Keynes) is no longer valid. MMT is a better description for what's going on i think.

    Basically QE provides end demand for US Government 'debt' that nobody would buy otherwise, at least not at interest rate US government requires to survive. Without QE US Gov would run out of money due to interest on debt skyrocketing and US economy would collapse in a crisis that would be worse than Great Depression.

    Replies: @Mikel, @EldnahYm

  • @Beckow
    @AnonFromTN

    I wasn't referring to tourism, that is - or not - fun in many places. I agree about large cities in Western Europe, they seem unsalvageable: menacing, dirty, unpleasant, with pockets of wealth. The oasis never spreads, a desert does, we all know where this is going.

    Outside of big cities, lives are still good. Try smaller cities in Austria, Cotswolds, or France profonde. In Eastern Europe we have temporarily peaked around 2017-18. The deep structural issues are back. Faustian bargains after 1990 are coming to collect.

    Prague is a fairy town for tourists, both appealing and annoying. Prague is also living off the massive investment in infrastructure, housing, education (music) after WWII - the damn commies built a lot of it. It has been repainted, franchised, quality (commie-)educated people cashed in, housing values sky-rocketed. Restaurants are good, but not as good as 5-10 years ago. There is a sense of an era ending, the post-WWII investment and the post-1990 cashing-in are both exhausted.

    I need to check-out "provincial Russia", any boom-towns? (I spotted a Gypsy on a street-car few days back, and there is an Indian flag above a ugly non-descript office building, time to look for greener pastures :)...

    Replies: @AnonFromTN, @songbird, @Thulean Friend, @Anatoly Karlin

    I need to check-out “provincial Russia“, any boom-towns? (I spotted a Gypsy on a street-car few days back, and there is an Indian flag above a ugly non-descript office building, time to look for greener pastures :)…

    AP usually talks of Slovaks as a bunch of cowards who fold at the slightest tip of the hat but I never took him seriously. Maybe I should. At any rate, why would someone panic just because of more Indian immigration? Great food, great music, and great architecture. My sole complaint is that Indians often assimilate too much and their 2nd gen kids because too westernised. I want more of this in my country:

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Thulean Friend


    ...I want more of this in my country
     
    Take them all, about 1.5-2 billion will come. You have displayed foolishness here before, so I suspect that you are yourself an Indian, or related.

    Regarding taking my joke about a streetcar and an Indian flag seriously, ouch, how dense. On second thought you could be a Scandinavian, they famously lack a sense of humour.

    Replies: @Thulean Friend

  • @EldnahYm
    @Xi-jinping

    Europe is arguably already in radical decline, certainly parts of southern Europe have not done well the last decade and a half.

    Uncle Sam's alliances are a giant cost with little benefits. Europe is aging into oblivion and the U.S. trade with them is a small percentage of GDP. Militarily speaking, European countries are weak and a more multipolar world actually makes them weaker relatively. Since there is little gain from the current alliances, I see no reason to assume the U.S. will never withdraw from these countries. Radical policy changes do sometimes happen, and the U.S. reliably betrays its partners.


    Australia/New Zealand do not depend on what happens in Europe. They do depend on what happens to USA or China.
     
    That's true. But in a scenario where USA and China both decline, the whole world declines, not just Australia or New Zealand.

    New Zealand's agricultural industry by the way is kicking ass and taking names all over the place. They eventually will face constraints, they don't have the same land mass as the United States, but in the meantime I expect New Zealand agricultural exports to continue their expansion.

    Replies: @songbird

    Agricultural gains often result in the importation of agricultural workers. See: Chile and Haitians. I do not see it as a boon.

    • Agree: EldnahYm
  • @Xi-jinping
    @EldnahYm

    Europe will not decline economically until US declines. The US props up European economies/South Korea and Japan. It will be interesting to see what happens to the "Asian tigers" when the US withdraws.

    Australia/New Zealand do not depend on what happens in Europe. They do depend on what happens to USA or China.

    And the US would never wilfully dismantle its alliances unless it was forced to

    Replies: @EldnahYm

    Europe is arguably already in radical decline, certainly parts of southern Europe have not done well the last decade and a half.

    Uncle Sam’s alliances are a giant cost with little benefits. Europe is aging into oblivion and the U.S. trade with them is a small percentage of GDP. Militarily speaking, European countries are weak and a more multipolar world actually makes them weaker relatively. Since there is little gain from the current alliances, I see no reason to assume the U.S. will never withdraw from these countries. Radical policy changes do sometimes happen, and the U.S. reliably betrays its partners.

    Australia/New Zealand do not depend on what happens in Europe. They do depend on what happens to USA or China.

    That’s true. But in a scenario where USA and China both decline, the whole world declines, not just Australia or New Zealand.

    New Zealand’s agricultural industry by the way is kicking ass and taking names all over the place. They eventually will face constraints, they don’t have the same land mass as the United States, but in the meantime I expect New Zealand agricultural exports to continue their expansion.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @EldnahYm

    Agricultural gains often result in the importation of agricultural workers. See: Chile and Haitians. I do not see it as a boon.

  • @Mr. Hack
    @Bashibuzuk

    Fascinating. Of course the host of this video is quick to point out all of the possible positive things that could spring from this sort of technology, all in the pursuit of "protecting our freedoms, protect our families and protect our way of life". Of course, I understand that you probably have other less noble pursuits that could also be enhanced by using these new technologies.

    Using this sort of technology to help combat depression and anxiety issues that plague the world without the use of deleterious drugs is very encouraging. The speaker was a little too enthusiastic about the role that this technology might play in the ability to help respondents to increase their memory faculties. Not all memories are pleasant and need to be reexperienced in minute detail. Could also be used as a softer version of lobotomies, electro convulsive therapy or digital depression therapy?

    Replies: @EldnahYm

    Could also be used as a softer version of lobotomies, electro convulsive therapy or digital depression therapy?

    This sounds like a realistic vision of future dystopia. Just imagine what gifts the Sacklers would bestow upon humanity with this technology.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @EldnahYm

    I'm not really sure? If these new technologies can help people deal with or remedy their depression without the use of harmful drugs (anti-depresants,anti-anxiety drugs), and not destroy brain cells as does the treatment including lobotomies, it could be a great boon for humanity. I was hoping that Bashibuzuk would continue this discussion, but either he didn't see my comment or for whatever reason decided to exit the dialogue....?

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

  • For various reasons I am upping my probability of intense fighting in the Donbass this year (probably this summer) to over 50%. The Ukrainian buildup on the border continues. Wheeling in all those guns and equipment and letting them stand idle is expensive. The Americans have sent a cargo ship which is unloading more equipment...
  • @AP
    @Mikel

    I have to agree with you.

    I hope there will be no war. If there is, Ukraine will probably advance into Donbas before Russia responds. With Ukrainian troops in civilian areas, we will see if Russia will be as careful with civilians in Donbas as Ukraine has been. Hopefully they will be more careful than Russian troops were during the Chechen wars:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Grozny_(1994%E2%80%9395)#:~:text=As%20of%20the%20civilian%20casualties,fighting%2C%20about%206%25%20of%20the

    sources estimate that a large percentage of civilian fatalities [during the First Chechen War] occurred during the invasion of Grozny between December 1994 and March 1995. From the beginning of the invasion to the middle of February, fatality estimates range from 25,000 to 30,000 civilian deaths. This range indicates that the majority of the civilian fatalities in the entire war occurred during a mere four-month window. Of the estimated 25,000 killed in the invasion of Grozny, it is estimated that 18,000 were killed by mid January. According to General Dudayev, the first president of the Chechen Republic, 85 percent of civilians killed in the invasion (approximately 25,500) were ethnic Russians due to the fact that the Chechens were the first to evacuate the capital; this estimate is close to the figure put forward by Russian human rights campaigner Sergei Kovalyov, who estimated the number of ethnic Russian deaths at 24,000

    (are those figures accurate?)

    Replies: @Shortsword, @melanf, @The Big Red Scary, @rkka, @AnonFromTN, @demografie, @Russian Unionist

    And here you lost me. Chechens were running slave markets. Please don’t tell us about civilians casualties.

    • Agree: EldnahYm
  • Lu, J. G., Nisbett, R. E., & Morris, M. W. (2020). Why East Asians but not South Asians are underrepresented in leadership positions in the United States. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America, 117(9), 4590–4600. (h/t Razib Khan) Article makes the case that EAs are underrepresented ("bamboo ceiling")...
  • @Jatt Aryaa
    @EldnahYm

    I said Sword not knife and anyway fuck what you think.

    You being right wing is literal anti conformity to what your society's become.

    Pucker up for the hormones, sunshine.

    Replies: @EldnahYm

    That’s why I said “the worst sort” of non-conformity. Failing to conform to evil is a good thing. The Indian diaspora aren’t doing that, quite the opposite.

    • Agree: Jatt Aryaa
  • Interesting links. (1) Len Sassaman and Satoshi: a Cypherpunk History. This is, I think, the strongest case for someone being Satoshi that I have read to date. All I can say is that IF it was him, he played the double act VERY well. (2) Gregoire Canlorbe (Postil Magazine) - A conversation with Emil O.W....
  • @AaronB
    @Thulean Friend

    One might apply this to the internal situation as well.

    Just as international unity does not lead to innovation, excessive internal unity within a society likewise leads to stagnation.

    The 19th century was also a period of great internal social division and of competing value systems and philosophies.

    Nietzsche studied Greek culture and concluded that humanity reaches new heights only through fierce competition - he believed it was the Greek institution of the 'agon' that led to Greece becoming so much greater than its neighbors, who stressed unification, harmony, and central authority.

    Heraclitus said war is the father of all things- obviously meaning competition and strife among divided factions leads humanity to create and adapt.

    It is common here to mock the slogan that diversity is our strength, but it is true in a very real sense.

    In America, might not the Indian, Chinese, Jewish, and White communities compete with each other in a friendly rivalry to outdo, out-excel, and out-achieve each other and leading America as a whole to new discoveries and creations? A sort of modern Greek agon?

    Social rivalry need not be racial, but a healthy society needs a certain level of social division and strife. Competition between factions leads to innovation. Of course, too much strife becomes chaos and disintegration- but without risk and danger there is nothing great.

    People are too afraid of division and strife. Nietzsche suggested the yearning for harmony and peace is the sign of decadence and exhaustion. All autocratic regimes are really decadent in their fear of competition.

    Conservatives are by nature fearful creatures- that is why they wish to conserve and arrest change. They fear strife and desire peace and harmony.

    Even the Woke ideology, in its insanity and aggression, is a stimulus towards the development of alternative and better philosophies, and a wake up call out of dull complacency.

    Kant was famously roused from his dogmatic slumber by Hume, whose skeptical philosophy he found repellent and a challenge.

    I sometimes get the sense that the commentators here are a bunch of exhausted and weary old souls.

    From a Buddhist/Taoist perspective, of course, I am not interested in national greatness or technological innovation, although I find it easy to enter into the mindset of "worldly" achievement and understand what factors and conditions lead to its attainment (perhaps my lack of emotional involvement makes me more objective).

    What does worry me is the conservative fear-based desire to impose a stultifying and dreary unity on life and tightly control everything, eliminating risk, adventure, diversity of lifestyle and thought, and freedom. This suppression of the abundance of nature is anti-Tao.

    Of course, the mainstream Left exhibits similar tendencies.

    Replies: @AaronB, @Thulean Friend, @Boomthorkell, @EldnahYm

    Competition can also lead to destructive behaviors. Think of the tragedy of the commons. Or think about what would happen if you allowed multiple competing parasites to infect you(my model for the impact of ethnic minorities). You wouldn’t become stronger from this, instead the competition between the organisms would select for greater virulence.

    Nevertheless I actually agree with you that society needs a certain amount of strife. I even agree when you apply the idea to conservatives and conclude they are fearful. Conservatives are dumb conformists on the whole.

    • Agree: Jatt Aryaa
    • Replies: @Beckow
    @EldnahYm


    ...Conservatives are dumb conformists on the whole.
     
    I almost wish they would be, but they are usually smarter and more adaptable than liberals. They don't conserve anything, their goal seems to be to restore (partially) the situation circa 2015, big f..ing deal. Most of the time conservatives are trying to protect what they have, their ideology and greed combining. With most, the greed is all that's left - the libertarian "get me out of here" misanthropes.

    Competition helps in manageable quantities. But massive, chaotic competition of all against all, with few boundaries and an insider referee class, leads to collapse. It is the capitalism equivalent of "abolish money" communist fantasy. In an uber-market situation other non-economic forces take over: power, connections, or corruption determine outcomes because the playing field is too crowded and chaotic.

    Today's conservatives don't understand that wealth can only exist in a society. You can have assets in a market paradise, but there will be no wealth. Any wealth has to be validated by a society. The anti-social instincts undermine what conservatives presumably value. It is also a political loser, by numbers you can never prevail in the long run with anti-social policies and keep the "wealth".

  • @Xi-jinping
    @EldnahYm

    What is meant by 'collapse' is a general economic decline that eventually corresponds to cultural and military decline.

    And NATO/US cold war blocs will never be dismantled because the many countries in them are essentially feudal vassals of the US and were forced to adopt their political system and have been convinced that maintaining these systems is in their interests. This also means that these countries feel like they are 'sovereign' when they are really not.

    Canada is essentially USA LITE.

    Australia's no 1. trading partner is China. However, Australia cannot move closer towards China due to the political implications that will cause from the USA.

    Replies: @EldnahYm

    What is meant by ‘collapse’ is a general economic decline that eventually corresponds to cultural and military decline.

    My point is that North American as well as Australia and New Zealand aren’t that interconnected, and that an economic decline in Europe does not spell the same for those countries.

    And NATO/US cold war blocs will never be dismantled because the many countries in them are essentially feudal vassals of the US and were forced to adopt their political system and have been convinced that maintaining these systems is in their interests. This also means that these countries feel like they are ‘sovereign’ when they are really not.

    None of this means the U.S. couldn’t dismantle the alliance systems if it wanted.

    Australia’s no 1. trading partner is China. However, Australia cannot move closer towards China due to the political implications that will cause from the USA.

    What China’s trading relationship will be with the Anglosphere and Europe over time remains to be seen, it’s probably one of the more interesting political topics right now. However, Australia doesn’t necessarily need to expand its relationship with China for more growth. Southeast Asia and some other places are growing markets.

    • Replies: @Xi-jinping
    @EldnahYm

    Europe will not decline economically until US declines. The US props up European economies/South Korea and Japan. It will be interesting to see what happens to the "Asian tigers" when the US withdraws.

    Australia/New Zealand do not depend on what happens in Europe. They do depend on what happens to USA or China.

    And the US would never wilfully dismantle its alliances unless it was forced to

    Replies: @EldnahYm

  • It's quite amusing that, read in the wrong (right?) light, this basically comes off as a paean to White Supremacy. It's the ultimate humblebrag. I think there's quite a lot of truth to this thesis of The Unbearable Lightness of White Supremacy. Regardless of which White faction "wins" this civil war, the power structure itself...
  • @Anatoly Karlin
    @Bashibuzuk

    Not evil, just chutzpah the likes of which will leave any Jew smoking nervously in a corner.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @EldnahYm

    I can’t imagine Latvians shaking down foreign governments/banks demanding payment for land they never owned, money from accounts that weren’t theirs, or art deals which failed to make a profit during the Great Depression.

  • Here is a Prager graphic that is an effective counter.

    PEACE 😇

     

    • Disagree: EldnahYm
    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    @A123

    Disagree on all three for tradwives.

    , @songbird
    @A123

    If it is thought of as advice, doesn't point number one make it a tautology? The issue is not that poor people are not choosing full-time jobs, but it is that all that is open to them is part-time jobs.

    I also dislike points two and three.

    Point two makes it seem like we should ensure that everyone graduates high school. (some years ago, the founder of Wendy's attained his GED at about age 62, and people were applauding him - seemed silly to me) Anyway, it is obvious that education does not make people smarter. And I think a lot people don't benefit by going past the 8th grade. I would even extend this to smart people, where if it were possible for them to have a job that used their brains and gave them experience, that might be better.

    As regards point three, I think most people should not marry that young, but that does not mean that it would be bad for society in every case. Ideally, one would want people of high intelligence and the right personality traits to get married as soon as possible, so that they could have as many children as possible, to help make for a better demographic situation.

    Replies: @A123

  • Interesting links. (1) Len Sassaman and Satoshi: a Cypherpunk History. This is, I think, the strongest case for someone being Satoshi that I have read to date. All I can say is that IF it was him, he played the double act VERY well. (2) Gregoire Canlorbe (Postil Magazine) - A conversation with Emil O.W....
  • @Max Payne
    @Bashibuzuk

    The end goal is to normalize the coming drop in living standards for Westerners. A westerner is willing to accept a reduction in his life style if it means staying online. To remain in that niche bubble/echo chamber. And the lure is going to get much more intense. True targeted entertainment. Beyond deepfakes, neural networks, procedural generation, and VR. Distractions of a higher order that these weak ass children of today, with their vagina-like fear over a nothing flu, will never be able to overcome.

    Look at the wealth bitcoin projects. The wholesale acceptance of illusion over reality. Making an ERC20 token is literally nothing but copy/pasting some open source script in Solidity. And with that alone you can go out there and scam someone out of hard earned cash to buy your nothing-coin. People want to believe the illusion.

    And thats all this is. Forcing the weak minded to accept illusion as reality. And its working. Soon the two minutes of hate for Putin will come after the national anthem in schools.

    Replies: @Yellowface Anon, @Bashibuzuk, @Mr. Hack, @EldnahYm

    All of this sounds eugenic.

  • @Bashibuzuk
    On the Donbass thread we have started a conversation about Western economic and social reforms that according to my humble opinion have been many years in preparation, but have only been put forward starting last year, during the early stages of the Covid pandemics.

    I believe (quite subjectively) that the end goal of these social and economic changes is to attempt a restoration of the leading role of the globalized Western capitalism in the World economic affairs and of the Atlanticist networks on the World political stage.

    Commenter JL asked me if this didn't look like some sort of "Western Perestroika " that will end in the same inglorious way as the last ditch effort to reform the Soviet regime and its system of alliances. I believe that the West is indeed in a somewhat similar situation, that its ideological and economic foundations are severely damaged and in need of a serious repair and upgrade. But the situation in today's globalized West is of course completely different from the Soviet Union back in the 80ies.

    As AP and I both replied, we think both economic and social systems are very different. I also have the impression that cultural code and Zeitgeist cannot be directly compared. And yet there is a feeling of déjà vu for those who have lived under the final decades of the Soviet regime and who now live in the West, the impression that the system is ongoing a deep and radical transition to something unknown. A transition that might end up badly.

    This is something people of Soviet background talk about in my circle. And even native Westerners sometimes offer similar opinions. As one of my French friends, an investment banker, a man my age (mid 40ies) who is somewhat familiar with today's RusFed, but did not live in USSR, told me last week: "This era feels like the last drops of economic and political sanity circling the drain". I believe my parents might have felt something similar in the late Brezhnev era, at least that was the impression that comes from reading Soviet dissidents of that period.

    Mr Hack has asked whether I could describe why I think "Western Perestroika " was already underway. I replied that it is a long discussion and it's better be done on an open thread. Given the nature of the topic it might go in different strange directions and become actually lost in a heap of disorganized information and opinions.

    Again, this feeling or impression is very subjective and might be completely wrong. Perhaps the globalized West is doing alright, NATO and its allies will continue to rule the global defense and warfare scene, while Western corporate interests will just keep on dominating the global markets. If I am wrong, then there is nothing to discuss and I apologize for wasting your time with a useless comment.

    But if you also feel something similar, then I would like to know your thoughts about it.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Beckow, @mal, @AP, @Dmitry, @Max Payne, @EldnahYm

    From an economic and geopolitical perspective, “the West” is not a useful analytical framework. The United States is a category of its own, and Canada, Australia, and New Zealand are all in a different position compared to Europe, itself a broad category(my definition of “Europe” here would not include Russia). For Canada, Australia, and New Zealand, look at those countries resource bases, who their primary trading partners are, and what location they are in. You will find they are not like the integrated trading economics of western Europe. When people speak of “the West” collapsing, unless their theory is based on something like a cultural collapse(caused by wokeism or something) or a world war that particularly damages both Europe and North America, it’s probably better not to lump so many countries together. They are in different positions. There is a strong case to be made, at least from an economic and geopolitical angle, that what we call “the West” is really just a Cold War alliance system that could be dismantled at any time without causing drastic changes in all of the countries.

    Personally I think “great reset” is more marketing term than reality. To the extent elites actually believe it, I take that as further evidence their incompetence has reached the point that they believe their own bullshit. “Fourth Industrial Revolution” is an old idea, and a half-baked idea about how to deal with declining TFR across the world. All signs point to slow progress in automation(although as always, there are fields which will be exceptional). Green technologies are dubious from an environmental and engineering standpoint, and what declines in carbon emissions that occur because of them will be more than offset by economic growth and the resulting increases in consumption around the world(and in case it needs to be said, if you want to deal with environmental problems like species extinctions for example, fighting carbon emissions is one of the least effective methods). Efforts at “better” governance metrics, equitability, world government, etc. are pure bullshit which no strong country would have any incentive to abide by. My conclusion is that the great reset is either bullshit or it’s the system eating itself.

    It’s true that many interests want to push the idea that people should accept inferior living standards. But this is nothing new, and it remains to be seen how far this idea can be pushed without damaging the elites themselves and bringing about a reverse of policy. If living standards decline massively, the cause will likely either be a destructive war or technological stagnation rather than an engineered policy.

    • Thanks: Bashibuzuk, AltanBakshi
    • Replies: @Xi-jinping
    @EldnahYm

    What is meant by 'collapse' is a general economic decline that eventually corresponds to cultural and military decline.

    And NATO/US cold war blocs will never be dismantled because the many countries in them are essentially feudal vassals of the US and were forced to adopt their political system and have been convinced that maintaining these systems is in their interests. This also means that these countries feel like they are 'sovereign' when they are really not.

    Canada is essentially USA LITE.

    Australia's no 1. trading partner is China. However, Australia cannot move closer towards China due to the political implications that will cause from the USA.

    Replies: @EldnahYm

    , @Yellowface Anon
    @EldnahYm

    Enough damage can be done with misguided policies to cause systemic failure. Take a look at Stalinism and Great Leap Forward.

  • @schnellandine
    Murderous car thief at crash site laments separation from phone (still in trashed car) while shattered victim motionless on concrete—at 1:09 in this sickening document. Thought I was jaded, but guess not. Unfiltered psychopathy.

    https://twitter.com/JerryDunleavy/status/1375909226439118855

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @EldnahYm, @reiner Tor, @fnn

    Unfortunately, we don’t execute minors in the United States, so these two will probably cause more problems in the future.

  • This week's Open Thread. Philippe Lemoine - The Case against Lockdowns. I don't agree with all of it (e.g., Ctrl-F for "centralized quarantine" shows zero hits and in retrospect, that and masks really seem to be key). But I have long since started to oppose lockdowns. If you're not fundamentally serious about or incapable of...
  • Anyone remember the retarded boomer conspiracy of Michelle Obama being a man? It’s basically been removed from Google. Searching for “Michelle Obama man” used to give a bunch of funny results on it. But now the only results I get on the first page is either unrelated or about debunking it.

    Not that this subject is any important but it’s just another example of search results being tampered with by Google. In the last few years Google has clearly taken a very active approach in doing this. On Yandex on the other hand you can still find a bunch of “Michelle Obama is a man” links.

    • Thanks: EldnahYm
  • Lu, J. G., Nisbett, R. E., & Morris, M. W. (2020). Why East Asians but not South Asians are underrepresented in leadership positions in the United States. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America, 117(9), 4590–4600. (h/t Razib Khan) Article makes the case that EAs are underrepresented ("bamboo ceiling")...
  • @sher singh
    @EldnahYm


    Some Indians, like Sikhs for example, demand society accommodate their foreign customs.
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seax

    https://twitter.com/senghmishima/status/1373514361101189120?s=21

    https://web.archive.org/web/20160305070242/http://mosmaiorum.org/persecution_list.html

    Bros, don't let bros act gay.

    Grow ur hair, lift weights & carry weapons.

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾ।।ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ।।

    https://www.manglacharan.com/post/call-to-arms-by-guru-gobind-singh-ji

    ਕੇਸਸ਼ਸਤ੍ਰਜਬਿਦੋਨਹੁਂਧਾਰੇ।।ਤਬਿਨਰੁਰੂਪਹੋਤਿਹੈਸਾਰੇ।।
    Those who have adorned themselves with Kesh [unshorn hair] and Shastar [weapons], those men have attained their full form."
     

    Replies: @EldnahYm

    Sorry, I think turban wearing is a sign of foreignness and the worst sort of non-conformity. Such people should be banned from any sort of public work as a matter of principle.

    I have no problem with men carrying knives, although I think blacks should not be allowed.

    • Replies: @Jatt Aryaa
    @EldnahYm

    I said Sword not knife and anyway fuck what you think.

    You being right wing is literal anti conformity to what your society's become.

    Pucker up for the hormones, sunshine.

    Replies: @EldnahYm

  • Interesting links. (1) Len Sassaman and Satoshi: a Cypherpunk History. This is, I think, the strongest case for someone being Satoshi that I have read to date. All I can say is that IF it was him, he played the double act VERY well. (2) Gregoire Canlorbe (Postil Magazine) - A conversation with Emil O.W....
  • @mal
    @Daniel Chieh

    Maybe. I guess incompetence and a plan to keep confederates weak would look rather similar. United States would just be another confederate in the grand scheme of things, to be kept weakened accordingly.

    I mean, why did Soros fund all those district attorneys in the liberal states? Why was he playing catch and release with BLM/antifa during riots? I mean, murder rate skyrocketed in liberal cities, and they were supposed to be Soros' allies - heavily Democratic strongholds. It's a rather mean thing to do to your friends. Was he not planning on burning liberal cities down or was he incompetent and didn't see it coming?

    Maybe, but I find it hard to believe. It seems to me that liberal cities got too powerful and needed to be cut down to size. It was nothing personal, just keeping another confederate weak. Even if those confederates are nominally pro-Soros.

    Same thing with trannies. Overlords know that designer babies and other bioengineering will become a thing in not too distant future, but instead of promoting this from a position of strength and glory, they introduce those concepts from a position of weakness and basically advertise chemical castration. Everything to keep people going that route weak.

    Same with environment. Energy security and environmental concerns are serious issues, and again the overlords are pushing weaker solutions (such as renewables).

    EU is a bureaucratic mess for that reason as well. All to keep them below potential.

    I bet once space exploration kicks off for real, Greenpeace will discover space turtles and place then on endangered species (they will be so endangered nobody will ever see one) list and that will be used to set up barriers as to where and how you can explore.

    It's not that the World Economic Forum crowd is stupid, they fancy themselves quite progressive and they have some good ideas and they do understand social pain points. But desire to control things drives them to promote weakness and rationing rather than human glory and that is frustrating. Even when they are on the right side of history.

    Or maybe they are just coasting and seeing how many social experiments they can pull off before things become unglued and fall apart. But at this point, my bet is still on weakening the confederates.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @songbird

    But desire to control things drives them to promote weakness and rationing rather than human glory and that is frustrating.

    I think they simply believe that they have no other option left, that every other probable development is either a dead end or an outright catastrophe. You have mentioned Space exploration, I believe that one of the pieces of the puzzle is that we will probably be not ready for a massive space exploration program for at least a couple more generations. If we keep business as usual during that period we will screw up the biosphere beyond repair and make our very biological survival as a technological civilization very uncertain. To jump start this type of Space program, we require a World Government and a totalitarian system. To survive as a civilization until we get to acquire the ressources from our solar system we need to cut the consumption of the global (mostly Western) middle class. We need to reorient completely the Capitalist system towards producing long term strategic outcomes instead of short term gains. This is our global Perestroika: an attempt to ensure our survival as technological civilization until we reach the Space Age.

    • Disagree: EldnahYm
    • Replies: @Thulean Friend
    @Bashibuzuk


    To jump start this type of space program, we require a World Government and a totalitarian system.
     
    This doesn't make intuitive sense to me. The European Enlightenment and subsequent world colonisation happened not despite, but arguably because of fierce inter-state competition. The late 19th century was arguably the most innovative period in human history and it coincided with the peak of Great Power competition. It ultimately ended in a disaster on the continent, but whatever else one might say, it certainly didn't slow down innovation.

    Moreover, your argument ignores the fundamental garrulous nature of humanity. During uncontested US primacy, the world could afford to pretend to care about international co-operation because there was only a single hegemon in the system. It shaped global institutions and everyone played along because there was literally no alternative.

    Now we're seeing a situation with at least two, and potentially three (India) hegemons in a few decades time. China has made it abundantly clear it will not be subservient to US diktat the way a colonised continent like Europe has become. India is trending the same direction. This throws up obvious co-ordination problems in the way of your argument. The US does not like to share the crown, and its competitors have no plan to give up their rightful place (as they see it).

    This world will not be conducive to a world government. Is that a problem for innovation? History tells us otherwise.

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk

  • For various reasons I am upping my probability of intense fighting in the Donbass this year (probably this summer) to over 50%. The Ukrainian buildup on the border continues. Wheeling in all those guns and equipment and letting them stand idle is expensive. The Americans have sent a cargo ship which is unloading more equipment...
  • Hostilities can be avoided if Putin would get one of his spies in the Ukraine gov’t to locate all the dirt they have on the Biden family and publish it.

    The uproar it would cause in the US would take everything else off the radar. Maybe we could even get some prosecutor to cause Hunter to go to jail and then have Hunter rat out the president forcing Biden to pardon himself and his kin. Wouldn’t that make a wonderful international scandal?

    • Disagree: EldnahYm
    • Replies: @Aslangeo
    @RoatanBill

    The dirt on joe Brezhnev s family is common knowledge but the majority of the US corporate press were so vehemently anti Trump that it did ( does not?) not matter. Yesterday’s press conference had more easy softballs thrown at Biden with no serious challenge

    Biden is like Brezhnev in his latter years, senile with a corrupt family. The true danger to me is Kamala, a person of limited intellect and understanding yet significant cunning and limitless ambition and entitlement, a dangerous combination.

    Regarding a UKRop attack, it is possible, but one has to bear in mind a personal risk to their leader from losing a war. Military operations are never certain particularly if the other side has a backer who can destroy your armed forces if they intervene. Of course the intelligence service will paint a picture of near certain success and Ze may be taken in by it, but even porosenok who was much more bellicose did not go for full scale war after 2014

    Replies: @RoatanBill

  • Lu, J. G., Nisbett, R. E., & Morris, M. W. (2020). Why East Asians but not South Asians are underrepresented in leadership positions in the United States. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America, 117(9), 4590–4600. (h/t Razib Khan) Article makes the case that EAs are underrepresented ("bamboo ceiling")...
  • @EldnahYm
    @Long term lurker

    Agreed. Actually it was this passage: "Fighting is rare and, far from being a manly exchange of blows, is waged girl-wise, with scratching and hair-pulling" that most stood out to me as being based upon Cantonese people.

    A general rule of thumb for China is that the more west you go(also true of border regions), the more lawless and crazy it is, the more north you go, you get people who are taller and more extroverted, nationalistic, and heavy drinkers. In the southeast, you get shorter, more business-oriented people who know how to bend every single rule. This is a crude generalization with many exceptions(people from Hunan for example are quite nationalistic), but as a crude stereotype it works.

    Most people's stereotypes about Chinese are based on their observations about people from Guangdong/Hong Kong and Fujian. So they sometimes have views about the Chinese which are exaggerated.

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Appearances can be deceiving. Currently the fastest non-black in 100m is a Canto:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Su_Bingtian

    Su’s best time in 100m is 9.91, in comparison, fastest white guy is Lemaitre at 9.92

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christophe_Lemaitre

    Here he is next to Usain Bolt

    • Thanks: EldnahYm
  • Bold but not entirely trollish interpretation of the Great Awokening. Western - White American - culture remains hegemonic around the world, even as its economic and military preponderance slips away. Assuming this cultural hegemony remains intact, cultural "innovations" that arise in the imperial metropolis inevitably seep their way into the colonies. This is obviously correct...
  • @dfordoom
    @Hyperborean


    “Turkey’s economic transformation has meant that people chose to have fewer children, but wanted more opportunity for the ones they did have,” he added.
     
    Capitalism, technology, urbanisation and rising prosperity means you can provide excellent opportunities for your offspring if you only have one offspring, and you can do so whilst still having lots of very pleasant options for yourself (a nice house in a nice neighbourhood, a new car, nice holidays).

    Capitalism, technology, urbanisation and rising prosperity all lead to greater choices and increasingly (from an individual point of view) the rational choice for most couples is one child. And from a purely individual standpoint it's a very sensible choice.

    It might be bad for society but in a society that has capitalism, technology, urbanisation and rising prosperity no-one cares about the interests of society. Such societies inevitably become more focused on the individual.

    So how do you get capitalism, technology, urbanisation and rising prosperity without demographic collapse? No amount of wishful thinking about breeder genes is going to change anything.

    You need a way of creating a successful prosperous society without that focus on individualism. I have no idea how that can be achieved. Religion isn't going to help.

    Replies: @EldnahYm

    This account would be more convincing 20 years ago. Today, nearly a quarter of men have not had sex at all over the last year. Are you going to argue this state of affairs is because of rational choice and individualism? Many of the trends now are bad for society and the individual.

    Modern society has seriously fucked up incentives. A good start to changing incentives would be to eliminate practices that delay young people’s transition into adulthood. Sitting around all day playing video games or partying all the time is bad, but on this account so is having to get a degree before getting a decent job(actually it’s worse because it’s dysgenic).

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @EldnahYm


    This account would be more convincing 20 years ago. Today, nearly a quarter of men have not had sex at all over the last year. Are you going to argue this state of affairs is because of rational choice and individualism?
     
    As I've said before I'm not convinced that we have any reliable data at all about sexual behaviour and I'm definitely not convinced that we have any reliable data about changes in sexual behaviour over time.

    Many of the trends now are bad for society and the individual.
     
    Yes, but people decided that they wanted their lives to revolve around smartphones, the internet and gaming. "Society" did not make those bad choices - individuals did. When mobile phones were invented I thought they were a seriously bad idea and I was right but people told me how wonderful life would become thanks to mobile phones. When social media came along I thought it was a seriously bad idea and I was right but people told me how wonderful life would become thanks to social media.

    Also, people don't just make rational decisions. They also make irrational decisions.

    Modern society has seriously fucked up incentives. A good start to changing incentives would be to eliminate practices that delay young people’s transition into adulthood. Sitting around all day playing video games or partying all the time is bad
     
    "Society" does not force people to sit around all day playing video games. People choose to do so.

    but on this account so is having to get a degree before getting a decent job
     
    Yes, I agree with that.

    There's a limit to what you can do to prevent individuals from screwing up their lives. Or to prevent them from making choices that you and I think are bad choices.
  • Lu, J. G., Nisbett, R. E., & Morris, M. W. (2020). Why East Asians but not South Asians are underrepresented in leadership positions in the United States. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America, 117(9), 4590–4600. (h/t Razib Khan) Article makes the case that EAs are underrepresented ("bamboo ceiling")...
  • @Ludwig
    One of the fascinating things about this blog is seeing how commentators who can otherwise intelligently delve into what happened in some small region three hundred years ago in Central Europe, are reduced to superficial, tribal idiots when talking about cultures outside Europe.

    For example, there are those who conflate achievement/behavior patterns of Indian Americans - themselves a stratified bunch across educational achievement, business acumen (influenced no doubt by caste/regional ethnicity back in India) - with India as a whole, and who have actually made the jaw dropping comments that high achieving people from a country (in this case India) should not be allowed in because apparently the country of origin is infested with cooties. This is the kind of thinking one would associate with babbling idiots but the same person can otherwise intelligently discuss the area of his expertise which lies entirely within Europe.

    This same person - and others such - also rail against the alleged tribalism and nepotism of Indian Americans as a reason for them making it, entirely ironically missing their own extreme tribalism - and deep ignorance - in making these comments.

    So one then is to believe that Sundar Pichai became head of Google because Larry Page, Sergei Brin, Eric Schmidt et al were crypto-Indians. Similarly with Satya Nadella who was personally groomed by Bill Gates and turned Microsoft around after the disastrous Steve Ballmer. And apparently scientists like these 12 Indians deeply involved in NASA Mars missions https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/other/meet-the-indians-on-the-mars-perseverance-team/ar-BB1e4aye got their jobs (and many accolades) simply because JPL is sone Indian stronghold (rather than one that attracts highly motivated, intelligent scientists worldwide. There are many other nationalities who also work at JPL).

    These same commentators would rail against Wokeism - which is identity politics run amok for the benefit of grifters and power hungry opportunists of all colors - but then apparently objective merit based achievements in the US - which they would otherwise support - in which both EA and SA (Indians) are over-represented is due to “nepotism”.

    Clearly family based businesses, like small shops or motels etc are “nepotistic” in the same way that any privately held organization - eg the Trump Organization - is nepotistic. (Even publicly owned businesses eg Ford, Walmart were nepotistic and indeed quite exclusionary to people of the wrong color for quite a while. THAT apparently is not nepotistic or tribal.)

    Meanwhile another prolific commentator replying to a interesting comment worth exploring on how apparently a Brahmin Indian American were upset about a child partnering with a Japanese American, missed the whole point by showing a picture of developed Japanese city and a destitute Indian community as if this same Brahmin family in the US would be delighted if their child married someone from that community instead. So “India” then is not represented as a multi-dimensional bell curve - as indeed every large grouping can be - but by one image.

    Reading this blog then has reinforced my observation about many people: that they can be highly intellectual and discerning about certain topics but fall back into primitive drooling tribalism and idiocy outside their topic of expertise. In other words, the logic, commitment to reason and inquiry they display in their area is cast aside in favor of their raw emotions and deep prejudices outside it.

    I’ve noticed this in RL where many acquaintances who are deep experts in their fields - even in hard fields like Physics, AI etc - end up believing the most inane, easily falsifiable and contradictory propaganda against say Russia displaying a complete lack of curiosity, intellectual rigor that they spent their professional lives steeped in. Russia to them is what the NYT/Western media tells them it is.

    Another observation I can make based on this blog alone is that, Karlin being a prominent exception, many Russian or pro-Russian commentators seem to live in a bubble formed circa the 19th century - or charitably the late 20th century - and horrified and bewildered about the world they find themselves in with all non-white, non-Christians suddenly polluting the views outside their bubbles. While these commentators can endlessly dissect the many communities among Europe - and divide them into 15,000 different strands of tribal origins and disputes that persist till today - the world outside it is evidently divided into only five or six groupings with no understanding or curiosity of the variety and deep histories within them. For example in the grouping of complex ethno-states called India, there are 400+ languages alone, with about 20 main ones spoken by tens of millions.

    Fortunately for Russia, it appears Putin & co - while strongly maintaining the ties to the past - have been ahead of many of their countrymen in realizing the future of Russia, rather than an imagined nostalgic glorious past, lies in greater ties not with the West - which is seeing its 500 years of hegemony being challenged amidst their own internal divisions - but with the rest of the wide World with all its myriad communities as history remorselessly marches on.

    Replies: @Thulean Friend, @Beckow, @Anatoly Karlin, @EldnahYm

    This same person – and others such – also rail against the alleged tribalism and nepotism of Indian Americans as a reason for them making it, entirely ironically missing their own extreme tribalism – and deep ignorance – in making these comments.

    You’re arguing here that people who object to Indian nepotism are themselves nepotistic. This is a classic Freudian tactic. If someone says something homophobic that must mean they’re a closeted gay.

    Accusing Indians of tribalism is one of the weaker insults hurled at them. That’s going easy on them. I would accuse the Indian diaspora of being parasitic, unscrupulous, cowardly, corrupt, and shameless. Tribalism is low on my list of complaints against them.

    So one then is to believe that Sundar Pichai became head of Google because Larry Page, Sergei Brin, Eric Schmidt et al were crypto-Indians. Similarly with Satya Nadella who was personally groomed by Bill Gates and turned Microsoft around after the disastrous Steve Ballmer. And apparently scientists like these 12 Indians deeply involved in NASA Mars missions https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/other/meet-the-indians-on-the-mars-perseverance-team/ar-BB1e4aye got their jobs (and many accolades) simply because JPL is sone Indian stronghold (rather than one that attracts highly motivated, intelligent scientists worldwide. There are many other nationalities who also work at JPL).

    These same commentators would rail against Wokeism – which is identity politics run amok for the benefit of grifters and power hungry opportunists of all colors – but then apparently objective merit based achievements in the US – which they would otherwise support – in which both EA and SA (Indians) are over-represented is due to “nepotism”.

    Silicon Valley Jews hire Indians because they’re a useful golem against white people.

    You are simply picking a select number of accomplished individuals and implying they represent Indian people as a whole. What does the ability of 12 NASA scientists tells us about the ability of Indian-Americans in general? Not much. You do realize this method of yours is not any more informative than the one you are attributing to others, namely stereotyping all Indians based on how India as a whole appears. Among Indian Americans, gas station owners or restaurant owners are more representative than the select people you are mentioning.

    Also, what is it with online Indians always lumping themselves in with East Asians? I have never in real life come across the idea that these two groups of people are similar, yet often I see online Indians trying to piggyback on East Asian accomplishment. People used to accuse the poster Thomm of being Indian, one time I saw him doing the same thing, so now I also believe he is Indian. Newsflash guy, East Asians in the U.S. also have the same complaint about Indians. Look up Ryu vs Intel Corporation if you don’t believe me. In contrast one of the most common stereotypes about East Asians in the U.S. is that they don’t cause any trouble(the others are that they study too hard, are passive, worship money, and are good at math).

    It’s not just the nepotism either. Indians doctors are overrepresented among medical fraudsters and pill mills. Indians have extremely low civic engagement. Some Indians, like Sikhs for example, demand society accommodate their foreign customs. There is also the simple fact that large numbers of the Indian diaspora are openly anti-white.

    I won’t go into your point about meritocracy. Ron Unz himself has written good articles on the subject which I recommend you read.

    Clearly family based businesses, like small shops or motels etc are “nepotistic” in the same way that any privately held organization – eg the Trump Organization – is nepotistic. (Even publicly owned businesses eg Ford, Walmart were nepotistic and indeed quite exclusionary to people of the wrong color for quite a while. THAT apparently is not nepotistic or tribal.

    Nepotism can extend to any form of social organization. Knowing the right people is one of the more surefire ways of getting a job. This creates ample opportunity for favoritism. Mencius Moldbugman describes Indian practice better than I:

    Reading this blog then has reinforced my observation about many people: that they can be highly intellectual and discerning about certain topics but fall back into primitive drooling tribalism and idiocy outside their topic of expertise. In other words, the logic, commitment to reason and inquiry they display in their area is cast aside in favor of their raw emotions and deep prejudices outside it.

    Or maybe people have come into contact with real life Indians and know how they operate, especially when there are large clusters of them.

    • Agree: Daniel Chieh
    • Thanks: FerW
    • Replies: @sher singh
    @EldnahYm


    Some Indians, like Sikhs for example, demand society accommodate their foreign customs.
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seax

    https://twitter.com/senghmishima/status/1373514361101189120?s=21

    https://web.archive.org/web/20160305070242/http://mosmaiorum.org/persecution_list.html

    Bros, don't let bros act gay.

    Grow ur hair, lift weights & carry weapons.

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾ।।ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ।।

    https://www.manglacharan.com/post/call-to-arms-by-guru-gobind-singh-ji

    ਕੇਸਸ਼ਸਤ੍ਰਜਬਿਦੋਨਹੁਂਧਾਰੇ।।ਤਬਿਨਰੁਰੂਪਹੋਤਿਹੈਸਾਰੇ।।
    Those who have adorned themselves with Kesh [unshorn hair] and Shastar [weapons], those men have attained their full form."
     

    Replies: @EldnahYm

  • @oliver elkington
    @Europe Europa

    I would not say the British are reserved at all, you only have to go to a football match or to a pub on a saturday night to see that the British are generally a very sociable people, i think people get the idea of Brits being reserved from how Brits generally don't strike up conversations much with strangers the way Latino's or Italians may do though Northern Brits do so more often but that is more of a minority and in the less touristy parts, as a rule most of Southern England is very much about people being very sociable with their friends but less sociable outside of their friendship circle.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @EldnahYm

    • LOL: Blinky Bill
  • @Long term lurker
    @EldnahYm

    Northwestern Chinese are said to fight on the drop of a dime, and are considerably more manly in stereotyping. String rectangular faces, high noses, study bodies. Most Chinese we're used to, myself included, are southerners because southerners are close to the ocean and migrated most easily. I was personally stunned by how many men they found who have the actual facial features of the terracotta army in the Qin Empire tv drama epic.

    Replies: @EldnahYm

    Agreed. Actually it was this passage: “Fighting is rare and, far from being a manly exchange of blows, is waged girl-wise, with scratching and hair-pulling” that most stood out to me as being based upon Cantonese people.

    A general rule of thumb for China is that the more west you go(also true of border regions), the more lawless and crazy it is, the more north you go, you get people who are taller and more extroverted, nationalistic, and heavy drinkers. In the southeast, you get shorter, more business-oriented people who know how to bend every single rule. This is a crude generalization with many exceptions(people from Hunan for example are quite nationalistic), but as a crude stereotype it works.

    Most people’s stereotypes about Chinese are based on their observations about people from Guangdong/Hong Kong and Fujian. So they sometimes have views about the Chinese which are exaggerated.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    @EldnahYm

    I think ultimately the lower effective T is consistent with findings such as ethnic differences in testicle weight(33% lower in East Asians) and DHT ratio(which is has the strongest virilizing effect on males):


    However, the DHT:testosterone ratio was highest in African-Americans, intermediate in whites, and lowest in Asian-Americans, corresponding to the respective incidence rates in these groups and providing indirect evidence for ethnic differences in 5alpha-reductase enzyme activity.
     
    As with the other findings(consistently higher Hispanic testicle weight vs Caucasian), it probably is genetic rather than environmental factors.

    Replies: @Jatt Aryaa

    , @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @EldnahYm

    Appearances can be deceiving. Currently the fastest non-black in 100m is a Canto:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Su_Bingtian

    Su’s best time in 100m is 9.91, in comparison, fastest white guy is Lemaitre at 9.92

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christophe_Lemaitre

    Here he is next to Usain Bolt

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAWilTjsBxg

  • @Daniel Chieh
    @reiner Tor

    Almost certainly cultural/genetic co-evolution rather than just soy-based diet or the like. From E.A. Ross, it seems had been pretty much typical even in the 1900s:

    Chinese children do not run, romp, and climb like ours. Their schoolboys are less riotous than white boys. Athletic sports are unknown. One recreates with kite flying, cricket fighting, gambling, chess, or letting off fire-crackers. To sip wine and cap verses in a shady arbor or a cool grotto by a lotus pond is a gentleman’s ideal of happiness. There is game aplenty in some parts, but no one shoots save the pot hunter with his rusty matchlock. No one bestrides a horse for pleasure. The placid mule is preferred to the horse and a gentle amble to a brisk gallop. When the mounted soldier gets up speed, the sight is a salve for sore eyes. Boxing would never occur to anyone as a sport. Fighting is rare and, far from being a manly exchange of blows, is waged girl-wise, with scratching and hair-pulling. The singing of the men is a nasal falsetto in strange contrast to the abdomiual bellow of Western males.
     

    E.A.Ross, The Changing Chinese

    https://www.unz.com/book/e_a_ross__the-changing-chinese/

    Search UI is horrible for Unz books, incidentally.

    Replies: @EldnahYm, @Bashibuzuk, @European-American

    That sounds like a description of Cantonese people. Northern Chinese are not like that in my experience.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    @EldnahYm

    Chinese population is pretty heavy to the south, so it would be an effect even if not universal.

    https://saylordotorg.github.io/text_world-regional-geography-people-places-and-globalization/section_13/2188ec2232f5d9f5d0ebdb4ee61601bd.jpg

    Replies: @AltanBakshi

    , @Long term lurker
    @EldnahYm

    Northwestern Chinese are said to fight on the drop of a dime, and are considerably more manly in stereotyping. String rectangular faces, high noses, study bodies. Most Chinese we're used to, myself included, are southerners because southerners are close to the ocean and migrated most easily. I was personally stunned by how many men they found who have the actual facial features of the terracotta army in the Qin Empire tv drama epic.

    Replies: @EldnahYm

  • @Thulean Friend
    @Ludwig

    It's just crude racism. There can be interesting discussions here, and I appreciate the relative lack of censorship, but you have to remember that many people still carry primitive prejudices on this blog. And this is especially the case whenever discussion turns to people with more melanin. There's no reason to overanalyse it more than that.

    Replies: @EldnahYm, @Daniel Chieh

    No people in the world are as conscious about skin color as Indians* are, so your point rings hollow. You are either a master of irony or are totally clueless about people and how they behave.

    *ok Chinese women are an exception

  • Interesting how people refuse to consider nepotism as a factor instead of IQ. If this is true why aren’t WASPs as overrepresented as Jews, considering that Episcopalians actually have a slightly higher IQ than Jews?

    • Agree: Pop Warner, EldnahYm
  • @Beckow
    @Europe Europa


    ...Irish have view of British rule as one of blood thirsty murder and genocide
     
    Well, was it? British did things to the Irish that could be called "blood thirsty murder and genocide", why should they not remember it?

    We can discuss the undue focus that some put on events that happened long time ago. But you have to be even-handed and I have never seen British shy away from endlessly demonising others.

    British constantly go around the world talking about how horrible other nations are, or were, it's only fair that Irish and others also point out British misdeeds. I am confused about why this simple concept is so hard to understand for most people in UK. Are you so dense that you don't get basic logic? Or is it a form of narcissism?

    Replies: @EldnahYm

    Well, was it? British did things to the Irish that could be called “blood thirsty murder and genocide”, why should they not remember it?.

    False.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @EldnahYm

    You have to do better than that...by any standard used today it "could be called...".

  • Indian-American IQ is higher than White IQ and even higher than East Asian IQ.

    Citation needed.

  • (h/t @popdemography) Anyhow, very good/comprehensive map, with almost surprises. The only thing that was a real TIL to me was the increase in Belgorod oblast, which is the green region next to Kharkov oblast in Ukraine. Its TFR is low like in most central Russian regions, but it's apparently a popular destination for Russians from...
  • @Mr. XYZ
    @AlexanderGrozny

    Immigration might be helping them a bit in regards to this. There are some Vietnamese people in Czechia, for instance, and Anatoly Karlin previously mentioned seeing a lot of South Asian people and even a few black people in Poland on his visit there.

    Replies: @AlexanderGrozny, @anonymousperson, @Bies Podkrakowski, @xxxeliss, @Yevardian

    and Anatoly Karlin previously mentioned seeing a lot of South Asian people… in Poland on his visit there

    Disgusting!

    • Agree: EldnahYm
    • Troll: AltanBakshi
    • Replies: @Blinky Bill
    @Yevardian

    NSFW

    https://oc-media.org/features/looking-for-a-better-life-the-indians-coming-to-armenia/


    Indian immigration to Armenia has sharply increased in the last two years, with many coming to the country in search of a better life. However, endemic racism and human trafficking have revealed the dark side of the ‘Armenian dream’.
     

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin

  • @Mr. L
    @Mr. XYZ

    I made a breakdown of the foreigners that are in Czechia registered with the Czech foreign police and grouped them by "origin area" (that roughly corresponds to race) in 2018

    European: 75,66%
    Central Asia: 1,9%
    NE Asia: 3,88%
    SE Asia: 11,4%
    South Asian (i.e. Indians): 0,93%
    in total there are 566 931 foreigners registered (around 5% of the population)
    this doesn't account for all the foreign nationalities rhat are present, but it's a rough estimate of where the immigrants coming here are from.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …South Asian (i.e. Indians): 0,93%

    Over 4,000 Indians – they should be kept safely under 1,000. I had two Indians from France assigned to my team…they immediately tried to move their families from India to Prague, constantly complained about lack of “veggie” food, investigated social benefits (we tracked them), and were useless, probably with fake diplomas that is very common among Indians.

    As all Indians do, they constantly complained about Prague and “racism”. Their suppressed hatred of all white people and self-loathing was palpable. After a few months we sent them back to France and they never asked us to take more. Poland needs to watch out, they have targeted it as an easy mark.

    • Agree: EldnahYm
    • LOL: Jatt Aryaa
  • Bold but not entirely trollish interpretation of the Great Awokening. Western - White American - culture remains hegemonic around the world, even as its economic and military preponderance slips away. Assuming this cultural hegemony remains intact, cultural "innovations" that arise in the imperial metropolis inevitably seep their way into the colonies. This is obviously correct...
  • @marquess
    @utu


    Nationalist right missed the opportunity that the pandemic presented the most by opposing the countermeasures which were in essence nationalistic about protecting your country and your people from viral contagion that came form abroad. Borders could have been closed and immigration could have been frozen and the nature of external enemy could have been articulated. Instead the Rightoids with their libertarian streak dominated by opposing concerted actions and once again demonstrating that they always miss the big picture by their inability to think in terms of group interests forever caught in the prisoner dilemma of losing options determined by short-term personal self interest.
     
    In the US at least, that was how Covid-19 was originally interpreted by the Right. That it would support Trump and his agenda, anti-immigrationism, hawkishness against China, etc.

    But after a few months, it began to dawn on the Right that Covid-19, the lockdowns could hurt Trump's election chances. Especially since the media, medical, and public health establishments tend to be dominated by the Left. So that is why the Right in the US became skeptical or hostile to the response and lockdowns. Rightoids used conspiracy theorizing and libertarianism to rationalize their opposition, but that was mainly post hoc rationalization. The main driver for their skepticism and opposition was that it would be bad for Trump's election chances and the Right's political power.

    Replies: @utu

    I am not sure I can agree. I do not remember voices on the Right that would advocated strong countermeasures except for stopping flights from China. No voices about stopping flights from Italy.

    • Agree: EldnahYm
  • Are SJWs still a thing? I remember they were big on campuses around 2015 but I didn’t think they still existed.

    • LOL: EldnahYm
    • Replies: @Firefinga
    @AlexanderGrozny

    They have graduated in the meantime and fill slots in bureaucracy and business, mostly as woke.comissars, working towards fireing everybody who isn't fully commited to the gospel-of-woke.

    Remeber when people made fun of the blue-haired "snowflakes"? Yes, they are weaklings and helpless crybabies when alone and on their own. Unfortunately a lot of snowflakes can comprise an avalanche and that's exactly what's happening now.

    Replies: @AlexanderGrozny

  • @Passer by
    Karlin is again trying to sound controversial in order to bring more attention to himself, not because he realy thought about what he was talking about.

    One simple point why Karlin is wrong and why i don't expect much liberalism among non-europeans: greater inbreeding.

    More inbreeding in turn results in more selfish and clannish behavior among non-europeans, as well as low levels of altruism.

    https://hbdchick.wordpress.com/2011/03/04/inbreeding-and-natl-iq/

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin, @EldnahYm

    Is inbreeding increasing among third worlders? Given the rates of urbanization, I would expect inbreeding to decrease over time in most populations. So I think AK’s points will increasingly apply in the third world even if what you say is right.

    • Replies: @Passer by
    @EldnahYm

    Dunno, but i'm hearing about some minorities being quite inbred in the UK. Pakistanis for sure.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/591577/British-Pakistanis-13-times-more-disabled-children

    There are views that Christianity decreased inbreeding in Medieval Europe, and set the stage for its rise, so the decline of Christianity may have an opposite effect.

    Replies: @songbird

  • While there are some people who may obsess about Jews and overemphasize them in some contexts, on wokeness you cannot ignore the Jewish question and expect to make a thorough analysis.

    • Agree: Coconuts
  • This week's Open Thread. Philippe Lemoine - The Case against Lockdowns. I don't agree with all of it (e.g., Ctrl-F for "centralized quarantine" shows zero hits and in retrospect, that and masks really seem to be key). But I have long since started to oppose lockdowns. If you're not fundamentally serious about or incapable of...
  • @utu
    @Dmitry

    Excess deaths (2020):

    Highest in Europe:
    Poland 14.4%
    Spain 12.9%
    Slovenia 12.0%
    UK 10.5%
    Czechia 9.7%

    Super Low (negative):
    Denmark -4.3
    Iceland -4.1%
    Norway -3.6%
    Finland -3.1%
    Latvia -2.2%

    Excess deaths is strongly positively correlated with the recorded number of COVID-19 deaths (r = 0.8).

    https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/excess-mortality-across-countries-in-2020/

    Replies: @EldnahYm

    AK has called whites “sub-human” because of failed COVID prevention measures. I wonder if he is considering revising his statement. Nordicists again appear to be correct.

  • @Blinky Bill
    @songbird

    https://64.media.tumblr.com/589c414c29113f7d7de4b57670260eab/tumblr_pn483iriRU1qgu8p6o1_1280.jpg


    https://img.ifunny.co/images/d923491c4538aaea8d13afd2d57e130ba8743abfa34cd88341eb0b564095eee7_1.jpg

    Replies: @sudden death, @EldnahYm

    Indians should be ethnically cleansed from all of Southeast Asia.

  • This week's Open Thread. Some interesting posts of note: Glenn Greenwald - Journalists Start Demanding Substack Censor its Writers: to Bar Critiques of Journalists Patrick Armstrong - Lab Rats to the Front. Written at about the same time as my own Woke Mil, so I'm not the only one noticing this phenomenon. [twitter] @TheDailyMao -...
  • @Blinky Bill
    @EldnahYm


     South Africa would not be in the state it is in now.
     IMHO much of this has to do with the fact that they despised the Boers more than they did the Bantu.

    Der Narzissmus der kleinen Differenzen.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e4/An_AD_MISERICORDIAM_appeal_-_Lantern_-_13_March_1880.jpg/435px-An_AD_MISERICORDIAM_appeal_-_Lantern_-_13_March_1880.jpg


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boerehaat

    Replies: @EldnahYm

    So are we going to count urban liberal Dutch who disliked the Boers also as part of Anglo supremacy? Are international sanctions against Apartheid South Africa part of Anglo Supremacy too?

    Since Bashibuzuk wants to emphasize Anglo elites, I will point out that the President of South Africa who oversaw the end of Apartheid was the Afrikaner F.W. de Klerk.

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @EldnahYm


    was the Afrikaner F.W. de Klerk
     
    Did he really have a choice ?
  • There's renewed rumors of war in the Donbass. But I don't think it's happening for a multitude of different reasons: Polls suggest that since around 2019 an outright majority of the LDNR wants direct union with Russia (<10% want independent, 12% want reintegration into Ukraine). The region is increasingly integrated into Russia de facto. The...
  • @Gerard-Mandela
    @AP


    Americans elected Trump
     
    A moral degenerate, BS artist, complete non-fiscal conservative, 2 non-American wives speaking in highly non-American accents ( for dumb Americans would normally be a distraction, for actual Christians the multiple wives would also be an issue - taking your attention-whore false analogy as if it was representative of anything outside of your own sociopathic mind), Israel-first, multiple bankruptcies, directly encouraging of big tech censorship provided it serves Americafag interests, "great" moral acts like pardoning drug-addict lowlife rapstars.....is not exactly somebody part of white christian, conservative, anti-woke thing you brainless cretin.

    As for Merkel - LOL as if a fantasist as yourself, who knows f**k all about Germany , who as a compulsive liar probably doesn't even have an international passport - can comment on German politics outside of instantaneous BS.

    Outside of guns, the CDU is more conservative than Republican party in America on practically all issues you idiot. No multiple-bankruptcies person could ever get close to leading Germany and have millions of fools idolising him. Nobody in Germany or the rest of the world could claim to be "anti-establishment" - when that same idiot was directly responsible for Bush winning the 2000 election ( falsely standing as a rival to the 3rd party candidate so as to get the 3rd party guy to lose votes)

    As for immigration ( essentially a right-wing policy to get cheap labour in most places) - what demented loser retardedly promotes mass Mexican takeover , intermarriage and crimewave in America for the next few decades... then shamefully criticises Germany for the same thing - except they are importing migrants from countries with far less crime, violence and general degeneracy! LOL - and that's even with me not liking Germany's immigration policies you dimwit.

    Standard of living is much higher in Germany than in US - probably why she gets voted in even with all the bad policies you cretin. -

    Germany doesn't have Presidents voted in election you stupid imbecile. Parliamentary elections requiring a much lower percentage vote to get into ( coalition) power making any comparison of " American voted this in" and "germans voted her in" completely retarded.

    TFR of Euro-Americans is higher than that of most European peoples.
     
    Brainless, irrelvant, statistically unproven nonsense. Not as nonsensical as "typical Galician culture" videos - but quite close. America fertility is declining at higher rate than all other western countries and current levels outside of blacks and hispanics for US are hard to estimate.

    Replies: @EldnahYm

    Brainless, irrelvant, statistically unproven nonsense. Not as nonsensical as “typical Galician culture” videos – but quite close. America fertility is declining at higher rate than all other western countries and current levels outside of blacks and hispanics for US are hard to estimate.

    The U.S. tracks births by race, so I think we do have accurate measures.

    I think everything else you said in the post is right on the money.

    • Thanks: Gerard.Gerard
  • @AP
    @AltanBakshi


    Sooner America dies, better chances there are for the long term survival of European nations
     
    Americans elected Trump, Western Europeans elected Merkel. TFR of Euro-Americans is higher than that of most European peoples. The population of Euro-Americans is larger than that of any European country. Odd to wish destruction upon this nation in order to “save Europe.”

    Replies: @AltanBakshi, @Jatt Aryaa, @Gerard-Mandela

    Americans elected Trump

    A moral degenerate, BS artist, complete non-fiscal conservative, 2 non-American wives speaking in highly non-American accents ( for dumb Americans would normally be a distraction, for actual Christians the multiple wives would also be an issue – taking your attention-whore false analogy as if it was representative of anything outside of your own sociopathic mind), Israel-first, multiple bankruptcies, directly encouraging of big tech censorship provided it serves Americafag interests, “great” moral acts like pardoning drug-addict lowlife rapstars…..is not exactly somebody part of white christian, conservative, anti-woke thing you brainless cretin.

    As for Merkel – LOL as if a fantasist as yourself, who knows f**k all about Germany , who as a compulsive liar probably doesn’t even have an international passport – can comment on German politics outside of instantaneous BS.

    Outside of guns, the CDU is more conservative than Republican party in America on practically all issues you idiot. No multiple-bankruptcies person could ever get close to leading Germany and have millions of fools idolising him. Nobody in Germany or the rest of the world could claim to be “anti-establishment” – when that same idiot was directly responsible for Bush winning the 2000 election ( falsely standing as a rival to the 3rd party candidate so as to get the 3rd party guy to lose votes)

    As for immigration ( essentially a right-wing policy to get cheap labour in most places) – what demented loser retardedly promotes mass Mexican takeover , intermarriage and crimewave in America for the next few decades… then shamefully criticises Germany for the same thing – except they are importing migrants from countries with far less crime, violence and general degeneracy! LOL – and that’s even with me not liking Germany’s immigration policies you dimwit.

    Standard of living is much higher in Germany than in US – probably why she gets voted in even with all the bad policies you cretin. –

    Germany doesn’t have Presidents voted in election you stupid imbecile. Parliamentary elections requiring a much lower percentage vote to get into ( coalition) power making any comparison of ” American voted this in” and “germans voted her in” completely retarded.

    TFR of Euro-Americans is higher than that of most European peoples.

    Brainless, irrelvant, statistically unproven nonsense. Not as nonsensical as “typical Galician culture” videos – but quite close. America fertility is declining at higher rate than all other western countries and current levels outside of blacks and hispanics for US are hard to estimate.

    • Agree: EldnahYm
    • Replies: @EldnahYm
    @Gerard-Mandela


    Brainless, irrelvant, statistically unproven nonsense. Not as nonsensical as “typical Galician culture” videos – but quite close. America fertility is declining at higher rate than all other western countries and current levels outside of blacks and hispanics for US are hard to estimate.
     
    The U.S. tracks births by race, so I think we do have accurate measures.

    I think everything else you said in the post is right on the money.
  • @AltanBakshi
    @AP


    No, European sickness came first, and then the American influence. European sickness exploded with the French Revolution. America has a crass, materialistic culture that would not have a chance against a robust healthy one.
     
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/28/Ingres%2C_Napoleon_on_his_Imperial_throne.jpg/623px-Ingres%2C_Napoleon_on_his_Imperial_throne.jpg

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1e/Jacques-Louis_David_-_The_Coronation_of_Napoleon_%281805-1807%29.jpg/1280px-Jacques-Louis_David_-_The_Coronation_of_Napoleon_%281805-1807%29.jpg

    "You will know them by their fruits," as it's said in the Good Book. French Revolution evolved into grandest form of European Imperialism ever to manifest in Europe after the the fall of the Roman Empire. You need to thank the eternal Anglo(Proto-American liberals/Whigs) for the sickness of Europe. Even in philosophy and literature one can clearly discern between the Continental and British schools, one is preoccupied with great questions of human existence, another is occupied with the questions of self interest, pleasure and greed. So cope harder!

    Category error. France, Germany, Poland, America etc. are not the same.
     
    https://cdn.britannica.com/04/6004-050-0816A49C/depth-contours-Atlantic-Ocean-submarine-features.jpg

    Well Hello Mother Earth, your Ocean between America and Europe is a category error! Just like Mediterranean between Africa and Europe!

    This stuff came from Western Europe and is much stronger in Western Europe than it is in the USA. Euro-Americans managed to vote for Trump, twice.
     
    I haven't criticised Trump much here, because many good people like him, but if we're honest, he is a postmodernist joke, he gave everything to Israel on a platter, unlike Obama, yes even fricking Obama often had more spine than him. Only a very deluded person can think that he was somehow a champion of traditional European values or Christianity, or something(if he really was a champion of those things, then the end is near), yes he was a better choice than a literal demon, but 99,999% of people are.

    Replies: @EldnahYm

    You will know them by their fruits,” as it’s said in the Good Book. French Revolution evolved into grandest form of European Imperialism ever to manifest in Europe after the the fall of the Roman Empire. You need to thank the eternal Anglo(Proto-American liberals/Whigs) for the sickness of Europe.

    None of those European empires did the peoples of Europe any good, instead they wasted a lot of money and lives increasing the population of the third world, which is now threatening the continued existence of white people. British settlements into North America at least expanded the populations of Europeans. So of course it’s the British who you most despise. It’s abundantly clear that you value your own aesthetic preferences over the well-being of French or any other people in western Europe.

    Even in philosophy and literature one can clearly discern between the Continental and British schools, one is preoccupied with great questions of human existence, another is occupied with the questions of self interest, pleasure and greed. So cope harder!

    Your caricature of British philosophy is too ridiculous to bother refuting directly. I will only point you to the fact that the libertines were French, not British. Marxism, Freudianism, post-modernism, post-structuralism, all of this garbage comes from continental philosophy. The philosophy of perfidious Albion created Newton, Malthus, and Darwin, who have made large contributions to questions of human existence.

    I haven’t criticised Trump much here, because many good people like him, but if we’re honest, he is a postmodernist joke, he gave everything to Israel on a platter, unlike Obama, yes even fricking Obama often had more spine than him. Only a very deluded person can think that he was somehow a champion of traditional European values or Christianity, or something(if he really was a champion of those things, then the end is near), yes he was a better choice than a literal demon, but 99,999% of people are.

    I don’t think your interpretation of Obama versus Trump is correct. The differences between Obama and Trump are not that one has more spine than the other. Obama’s handlers are part of the liberal/labor Zionism faction of Jews, whereas Trump’s are part of the Likud/political Zionism branch. This is why they had slightly difference views on certain questions.

    • Replies: @AltanBakshi
    @EldnahYm


    None of those European empires did the peoples of Europe any good, instead they wasted a lot of money and lives increasing the population of the third world, which is now threatening the continued existence of white people.
     
    You puzzle me, I was writing about the First French Empire, in what way they "wasted a lot of money and lives increasing the population of the third world?"

    It’s abundantly clear that you value your own aesthetic preferences over the well-being of French or any other people in western Europe.
     
    The difference between militaristic and honour based land powers and thassalocratic and mercantile sea powers, is not a question of aesthetics.

    The philosophy of perfidious Albion created Newton, Malthus, and Darwin, who have made large contributions to questions of human existence.
     
    None of those men were philosophers, but one was an economist and other two were scientists, but yes they were great men.

    I will only point you to the fact that the libertines were French, not British.
     
    "The first official Hellfire Club was founded in London in 1718, by Philip, Duke of Wharton and a handful of other high society friends."
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellfire_Club
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/62/Hogarth_Dashwood.jpg

    Obama’s handlers are part of the liberal/labor Zionism faction of Jews, whereas Trump’s are part of the Likud/political Zionism branch. This is why they had slightly difference views on certain questions.
     
    During Obama's tenure America at least officially supported Two state solution, and even George W Bush or Reagan did not recognize Golan and East Jerusalem as Israeli land.
  • New Levada poll shows Russians decreasingly willing to identify Russia as a European country: From 52% in 2008 (vs. 36%) to 29% in 2021 (vs. 64%). However, perhaps even more tellingly, this percentage goes DOWN with age. Just 23% of 18-24 y/o's identify Russia as Europe, vs. 33% of 55%+ y/o's. Could it be that...
  • @Bashibuzuk
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    These people were Europeoid. The Europeoid populations actually dominated Central Asian steppes until the Kuchans were defeated by the Hephtalite Huns allied with Sassanian Persians. It was fifth century CE.

    The earliest Mongoloid culture in the Steppe was the Okunevo culture.

    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-pJ4T5An3s8g/V7nJDKeE9VI/AAAAAAAA8rs/fb6cw1gVLB03lCqkYtR8ziGDFlj1n97_wCLcB/s1600/Okunevs-culture%2Bstones.jpg

    While your Mongoloid brethren in Southern Siberia were drawing these funny monsters, the Europeoid R1a people in the now Chinese territory of the Shaanxi province produced these types of ceramics:

    https://c8.alamy.com/comp/AX9X9P/neolithic-chinese-pottery-hong-kong-museum-of-art-hong-kong-china-AX9X9P.jpg

    Which might nearly be mistaken for the Cucuteni Tripolye ceramics of the neolithic culture which flourished in modern day Ukraine a bit earlier.

    http://www.danel.com.hr/images/ik507548cc.jpg

    In fact these both types of ceramics, found thousands of km away from each other are so similar that when placed near each other they are often impossible to distinguish and separate.

    https://i0.wp.com/cucuteni-trypillia.eu/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Cucuteni-yangshao-1.jpg?resize=768%2C509&ssl=1

    https://i1.wp.com/cucuteni-trypillia.eu/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Cucuteni-yangshao-2.jpg?resize=768%2C488&ssl=1

    Interestingly, in the neighboring province of Gansu, around the same period, the Majiayao culture produced also very similar ceramics. Han Chinese population in Gansu is still around 15% Y haplogroup R1a today. That is after some 5000 years.

    That might have been a coincidence, if not for the Y haplogroup R1a found in the burials of both cultures and the millet cereal which was the basis of the subsistence of both populations. Basically, we are talking about people who had the same patrilinear descent, but the mothers of the Majiayao and Yangshao culture people were mainly Mongoloid, hence they were already Eurasian.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majiayao_culture

    Now, if we move to Xinjiang, the Uyghurs are around 35% Y haplogroup R1a and 25% Y haplogroup R1b. More than 50% of the male Uyghur people are of Western Eurasian descent.

    Closer to our days, if the USSR would have wanted to seize Eastern Turkestan from China in the 1940ies it would have not been a problem for the Red Army that steamrolled the Japanese Kwantung Army in a matter of a couple of months. The same Japanese Kwantung Army that terrorized the poor Han Chinese for decades.

    Don't forget who freed your land from Japanese Imperialism. Display gratitude and respect to those who vanquished your enemy and gave you back your lands that your ancestors have lost in their times of weakness.

    Harbin, Dalin (Dal'nyi) and the neighboring areas were retrocessed peacefully by the Soviets to Communist China with all the buildings, military and civilian infrastructure and equipment given free in a brotherly manner.

    For you people only to turn against USSR in the 60ies and the 70ies and backstab the Soviets in Afghanistan hand in hand with the CIA and ISI.

    But you're right, let bygones be bygones.

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @Boomthorkell, @antibeast, @AltanBakshi, @AltanBakshi

    Closer to our days, if the USSR would have wanted to seize Eastern Turkestan from China in the 1940ies it would have not been a problem for the Red Army that steamrolled the Japanese Kwantung Army in a matter of a couple of months. The same Japanese Kwantung Army that terrorized the poor Han Chinese for decades.

    After defeating the Japanese in Burma, Chiang’s Nationalist Army was already steamrolling the Imperial Japanese Army (IJA) which had been ceding territory and hastily withdrawing from China in the last year of the war in 1945. Remember that the Soviet Red Army invaded Manchuria on Aug 9th AFTER the US military had dropped the atomic bombs on August 6th and 9th on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, respectively, which ‘forced’ Hirohito to surrender on August 15th. Without the CCP’s control of Manchuria made possible by the Soviet invasion, the Japanese Kwantung Army would have surrendered to Chiang’s Nationalist Army which would then have proceeded to prevent Mao’s CCP from occupying Manchuria. That would imply a victory by Chiang over Mao in the Chinese Civil War which would have turned the Republic of China against the USSR during the Cold War.

    Don’t forget who freed your land from Japanese Imperialism. Display gratitude and respect to those who vanquished your enemy and gave you back your lands that your ancestors have lost in their times of weakness.

    If Japan had NOT invaded China, the Japanese would have invaded the Russian Far East as they were allied to Nazi Germany. The fact that the Chiang’s Chinese Nationalist Army tied down 80% of the IJA in China meant that Stalin didn’t have to worry about fighting a second front against the Japanese in the Russian Far East during WWII. Ask the Europeans what happened to their Western colonies in Southeast Asia after the Japanese launched a second front against them in the form of the Southern Campaign in December 1941.

    Harbin, Dalin (Dal’nyi) and the neighboring areas were retrocessed peacefully by the Soviets to Communist China with all the buildings, military and civilian infrastructure and equipment given free in a brotherly manner.

    For you people only to turn against USSR in the 60ies and the 70ies and backstab the Soviets in Afghanistan hand in hand with the CIA and ISI.

    The Soviets needed Communist China as a bulwark against the USA in East Asia when the Cold War started after WWII. Both the Soviet Union and Communist China became allies in 1945, split up in 1960 and then patched up in the period (1985-1989) before the Fall of the USSR. Mao didn’t betray the USSR; that was Deng who started supporting the Mujahideen rebels in 1980, just one year after China had established diplomatic relations with the USA in 1979. But China did patch up its relations with the USSR during the Sino-Soviet Rapprochement of 1985-1989. Please don’t blame China for the Fall of the USSR which was hastened by Gorbachev’s Perestroika/Glasnost policies.

    https://digitalarchive.wilsoncenter.org/collection/183/sino-soviet-rapprochement-1985-1989

    But you’re right, let bygones be bygones.

    You bet.

    • Agree: EldnahYm
    • Replies: @AltanBakshi
    @antibeast


    Chiang’s Nationalist Army was already steamrolling the Imperial Japanese Army (IJA) which had been ceding territory and hastily withdrawing from China in the last year of the war in 1945.
     
    Only in 1945 did KMT forces start winning against Japanese, or how Operation Ichi-Go did go in 1944? In 1945 Japan's economy and navy was in tatters, their supply lines were cut, Japan was extremely weak, it's no big deal if Chiang made some victories against Japan in such a late stage of war.

    Without huge American and British pressure it's possible that Soviet Union would not had declared war against Japan. Also Soviets gave lots of help in form of arms shipments, advisors and natural resources to KMT in their war against Japanese invaders.

    But overall you are quite right.

  • There's been reports of a Ukrainian military buildup in the Donbass for several weeks now. The Saker, amongst others, has also reported on them, quoting a Telegram blogger who is claimed to have good sources in Kiev: My main reason for skepticism that the Ukrainians have serious aggressive intentions is that the Ukraine is still...
  • @A123
    @dfordoom


    People here fret a lot about the evils of globalism but the big problem is not globalism but American imperialism
     
    How is the U.S. responsible for Mutti Merkel's:

    • Rape-ugees rampaging across the EU?
    • Greek children starved by German Austerity?

    Evil U.S. leaders like Barack Hussein embraced SJW Islamic Globalism. However, the true leaders of Globalist destruction of Christian society reside in Berlin & Brussels. Nothing America has to offer is even vaguely comparable to the distilled spirit of ultimate evil that is Angela Merkel.

    PEACE😇
     
    https://www.rt.com/news/332803-polish-controversial-cover-migrant/
     
    https://img.rt.com/files/2016.02/original/56c4cb2dc36188d8238b4597.jpg

    Replies: @EldnahYm

    How is the U.S. responsible for Mutti Merkel’s:

    • Rape-ugees rampaging across the EU?

    Let’s pretend like American NGOs and intelligence agencies(a distinction without a difference) haven’t been flooding western Europe with multicult crap for decades now. In addition, the U.S. helped take Gadhafi out and has made a general mess of the Middle East for no particularly good reason.

    The true leaders of globalist destruction do not reside in Berlin or Brussels. Germany doesn’t have military bases all around the world, but the U.S. has 40 installations in Germany. Germany is a weak vassal state with little ability to project power abroad. The only reason the country has any significance whatsoever is the simple fact that its people are more productive than anyone else is. Obviously that fact bothers philosemites like yourself.

    • Agree: AltanBakshi, nokangaroos
    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    @EldnahYm


    The only reason the country has any significance whatsoever is the simple fact that its people are more productive than anyone else is.
     
    Germans might be more productive than Britons or Italians (not to mention Spaniards or Hungarians), but they are probably not more productive than Scandinavians or the Swiss. However, besides being productive, they are also numerous, the biggest nation in Europe.
    , @A123
    @EldnahYm

    Decades ago, the multicultural stuff originated in Europe and crossed the Atlantic to contaminate America. Anti-American NGO's paid for by Elite SJW Europeans is certainly part of the problem. That Anti-U.S. operations have penetrated American Intelligence Agencies is a even larger catastrophe.

    Christian Americans are the victim of German SJW culture. European Elitist Merkel has been in office 15 years pushing SJW Multiculturalism on the world. The U.S. had 4 different Presidents during her oppressive reign.

    Trying to say the the U.S. runs Mutti Merkel is blaming her victims.

    PEACE 😇

  • This week's Open Thread. Some interesting posts of note: Glenn Greenwald - Journalists Start Demanding Substack Censor its Writers: to Bar Critiques of Journalists Patrick Armstrong - Lab Rats to the Front. Written at about the same time as my own Woke Mil, so I'm not the only one noticing this phenomenon. [twitter] @TheDailyMao -...
  • @Bashibuzuk
    @EldnahYm

    The elites in the 5 eyes are Zio-Anglo. Hence it is still an Anglo empire.

    Replies: @EldnahYm

    Combining two words is not an argument.

    Maybe you haven’t noticed, but the United States foreign policy has been at the expense of the United Kingdom for over seventy years now. “Anglo supremacy” is not an apt phrase to describe this state of affairs. If we had Anglo supremacy, South Africa would not be in the state it is in now.

    • Agree: Coconuts
    • Replies: @Blinky Bill
    @EldnahYm


     South Africa would not be in the state it is in now.
     IMHO much of this has to do with the fact that they despised the Boers more than they did the Bantu.

    Der Narzissmus der kleinen Differenzen.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e4/An_AD_MISERICORDIAM_appeal_-_Lantern_-_13_March_1880.jpg/435px-An_AD_MISERICORDIAM_appeal_-_Lantern_-_13_March_1880.jpg


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boerehaat

    Replies: @EldnahYm

    , @Coconuts
    @EldnahYm

    The public face of the Anglo elite is becoming overtly diversified at least, in the British cabinet the two key power ministries are in the hands of British Indians, the prime minister is literally a 'one man melting pot', Biden is Irish, Harris is part Indian.

    Looking at the British political commentary scene it's observable that the rise of Wokeness has been very beneficial for globalists because pretty much the only available options are now the open borders, dismantle whiteness neo-Marxist woke vs. the colourblind 'classical' liberals; many of the most capable new spokespeople for the anti-woke side are now of recent Indian, African, Russian Jewish, Irish etc. descent.

  • @sher singh
    https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/640459736919048202/822263589872205824/unknown.png?width=678&height=665

    https://twitter.com/qin_duke/status/1372672335891857411?s=21

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @EldnahYm

    If the United States were still an Anglo country, Duke of Qin would be right. But Anglo cultural dominance is dead in the U.S., and demographically they are just a large group(and a heavily mixed one at that), not anything close to a supermajority(that’s with counting all British Isles people as “Anglo”). The United States influence is catastrophic for other Anglo members of the Five Eyes Alliance, particularly Britain. So it’s not correct to refer to it as Anglo supremacy, unfortunately.

    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @EldnahYm

    The elites in the 5 eyes are Zio-Anglo. Hence it is still an Anglo empire.

    Replies: @EldnahYm

  • From the New York Times news section: Great! They are finally going to do something about Antifa and BLM after 500+ riots. Hey, what happened to Antifa? Ctrl-F "antifa." Zip. Oh, now, I get it. How many law enforcement officers have been injured battling rioters since Geo
  • It sounds like the feds are preparing to initiate more entrapment operations, that’s how I read this news. People will predictably note a partisan angle here, but in reality the Trump administration was gearing up for the same sorts of activities. That’s what Christopher Miller, Anthony Tata, Ezra Cohen-Watnick, Kash Patel and others were doing at the end of the Trump administration. The capitol storming was a trap.

  • This week's Open Thread. Some interesting posts of note: Glenn Greenwald - Journalists Start Demanding Substack Censor its Writers: to Bar Critiques of Journalists Patrick Armstrong - Lab Rats to the Front. Written at about the same time as my own Woke Mil, so I'm not the only one noticing this phenomenon. [twitter] @TheDailyMao -...
  • @Mr. XYZ
    @Anatoly Karlin

    What makes Hispanics such big Holocaust deniers? What exactly have Jews ever actually done to them?

    Replies: @Shortsword, @A123, @EldnahYm

    What exactly have Jews ever actually done to them?

    The same stuff they do everywhere else.

    What makes Hispanics such big Holocaust deniers?

    Spanish language media is not monitored as closely as English language, so there is more freedom to express certain kinds of ideas. This state of affairs likely will not last for very long.

    There is also a history of Nazi sympathy in some Latin American countries, partly as an expression of anti-Americanism. Maybe this legacy still has an effect.

  • @Daniel Chieh
    @mal

    Its possible, but I'm not so certain.

    It is true that engineered processes tend to have much more sensitive tolerances than biological processes, but they are usually more fit to purpose for the specific goal of their design: e.g. a car is much faster than a horse, even if a car can't eat grass and requires a vast infrastructure to support it. Likewise is true of solar cells versus photosynthetic life:


    Plants are less efficient at capturing the energy in sunlight than solar cells mostly because they have too much evolutionary baggage. Plants have to power a living thing, whereas solar cells only have to send electricity down a wire. This is a big difference because if photosynthesis makes a mistake, it makes toxic byproducts that kill the organism. Photosynthesis has to be conservative to avoid killing the organisms it powers.
     
    That said, there are various reasons to believe that some sort of biological analogue may find use going forward, but nonetheless it will still be very different from history. Even the biological analogue of evolution, after all, produces descendant species that are ultimately vastly different from their ancestors and I've often likened the creation of AI, even if it replaces us in total, as the replacement of humanity by their children.

    Replies: @EldnahYm

    It is true that engineered processes tend to have much more sensitive tolerances than biological processes, but they are usually more fit to purpose for the specific goal of their design: e.g. a car is much faster than a horse, even if a car can’t eat grass and requires a vast infrastructure to support it. Likewise is true of solar cells versus photosynthetic life:

    Isn’t that the point though? “The force of technology will move forward – overwhelming , inhuman, and uncaring of our whims, and we shall merely be actors within its part.” In this quote, you’re talking about the ability to reproduce oneself. At that, biology is best. No technology has been developed, no idea has even been suggested for how an engineered system can beat biology at that task.

    Transhumanism is like libertarianism, just replace “the market” with “technology.” Crazy people worshipping abstractions, and making extrapolations from short periods of progress.

  • @AltanBakshi
    @Bashibuzuk

    I wouldn't stress too much about transhumanism, pain is pain, anger is anger, no matter if we have carbon or silicone based bodies. Anyway transhumanism till now has just been lots of noise out of nothing, speculation and extrapolation, or has anyone yet achieved results in artificial modification of one's inner mental faculties? Does anyone even have a clear plan for realising such goals?

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @EldnahYm

    I wouldn’t stress too much about transhumanism, pain is pain, anger is anger, no matter if we have carbon or silicone based bodies.

    I disagree. Our sense of pain and anger is physiological, specific to the workings of our nervous system. You change this system, and you will not process the world in the same way. You cannot isolate one part of human(or any organism’s) physiology from another and pretend it can somehow function the same way. Similar ideas, like existence being consciousness, or brains in a vat, are also false. People who peddle these kinds of ideas are anti-life degenerates.

    Anyway transhumanism till now has just been lots of noise out of nothing, speculation and extrapolation, or has anyone yet achieved results in artificial modification of one’s inner mental faculties? Does anyone even have a clear plan for realising such goals?

    Nope. Transhumanism is just a fantasy. In terms of bringing about a transhumanist future, the inventor of the eyeglasses has done more than Silicon Valley ever has, and likely ever will.

    • Disagree: Thulean Friend
    • Replies: @AltanBakshi
    @EldnahYm


    I disagree. Our sense of pain and anger is physiological, specific to the workings of our nervous system. You change this system, and you will not process the world in the same way.
     
    Few of us process pain or attachment in same way, the differences between women, men and children are quite big, but the gap between man and various animals is even bigger. All sentient beings or creatures with consciousness have sensations or stimuli which are worth of pursuing or worth of avoiding, even a fly can differentiate between various sense impulses, therefore a fly is capable of crude discernment or value judgment. Though pain or pleasure are vastly different for fly, they still do feel them in some way, as do all other sentient beings. Even such a basic thing as concentrating on some object of mind is necessary for all sentient beings, or how else a worm or a fly can pursue food? They must differentiate the object which has the nature of food from those objects which do not have the nature of food.

    Do you now understand why I claimed that pain is pain, and attachment is attachment, no matter what our physical basis is? If being can't differentiate between various stimuli, it's not sentient.

    Nope. Transhumanism is just a fantasy.
     
    Did I claim otherwise? For clarification I will say that I have no fixed opinion on the topic of Transhumanism, only time will tell. Also I have no religious, spiritual, moral or philosophical biases for or against Transhumanism.
  • There's renewed rumors of war in the Donbass. But I don't think it's happening for a multitude of different reasons: Polls suggest that since around 2019 an outright majority of the LDNR wants direct union with Russia (<10% want independent, 12% want reintegration into Ukraine). The region is increasingly integrated into Russia de facto. The...
  • @Shortsword
    @AP

    But this picture is funny

    https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1593989132456.png

    Replies: @EldnahYm

    Probably no group of people have been harmed more by Mexican immigration that American Indians. Mexican drug dealers have preyed upon them terribly.

  • This week's Open Thread. Some interesting posts of note: Glenn Greenwald - Journalists Start Demanding Substack Censor its Writers: to Bar Critiques of Journalists Patrick Armstrong - Lab Rats to the Front. Written at about the same time as my own Woke Mil, so I'm not the only one noticing this phenomenon. [twitter] @TheDailyMao -...
  • @Daniel Chieh
    @Bashibuzuk


    I sincerely hope that Mechanicist transhumanists will fail and/or that some biological realism will prevail among them. Otherwise, we are up for a lot of unpleasantness.

     

    As Mr. Land would say: why would human aspirations, hopes or opinions matter? If there is anything biological about this, capitalism was our speciation event. The force of technology will move forward - overwhelming , inhuman, and uncaring of our whims, and we shall merely be actors within its part.

    It is best to be wise to this, and try to be at the head of the beast.

    Kaczynski wrote that a man who relies upon a chess-advice software to always win at chess in a world of constant chess competitions is ultimately not a master of his tool, but a slave of it. This may have some truth, but it is still better not to be among the losers. As the Colder War reminds us:

    He looks up. "They could?'' Andrea? Jason? "Alive?''

    The void laughs again, unfriendly: "There is life eternal within the eater of souls. Nobody is ever forgotten or allowed to rest in peace. They populate the simulation spaces of its mind, exploring all the possible alternative endings to their life. There is a fate worse than death, you know.''
     
    It may be unpleasant in some fashion to be amongst the gears; but it is surely even worse to be splattered beneath the gears.

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/virgin-primitivist-vs-chad-transhumanist/

    https://www.unz.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/virgin-primitivist-vs-chad-transhuman.png

    Replies: @Bashibuzuk, @mal, @Pericles

    The force of technology will move forward – overwhelming , inhuman, and uncaring of our whims, and we shall merely be actors within its part.

    In the long run, all technology will converge to a biological or simulated biological process. Existing production processes are far too fragile to be useful. I mean, there’s like a single advanced microchip lithography facility in the entire world, it’s in the Netherlands somewhere. If their janitor decides to air his dirty socks in the vacuum pumps, there goes your AI progress for a few years until their fab gets decontaminated.

    Biology on the other hand can exponentially grow neutral networks (like human brains), quantum computers (like pigeon based navigation systems), and other advanced technology literally by eating fried chicken just about anywhere on the planet. Much more veraatile and robust process.

    The future is Zerg.

    • Agree: Bashibuzuk, EldnahYm
    • Replies: @Bashibuzuk
    @mal

    I hope that we will have the choice to direct technological evolution in the direction that suits us best as a species. There is hopelessness in the narratives such as Nick Land's accelerationism.

    If we indeed drift in that direction, I would prefer having no complex technological civilization at all and doing our best to perfect ourselves as human beings only. It is possible that the likes of Dmitry Orlov are right and that this whole Technosphere would eventually collapse under its own complexity and fragility. If that happens, then perhaps it would not be that bad given the alternative of dehumanizing acceleration towards something we don't even need as a species.

    , @Daniel Chieh
    @mal

    Its possible, but I'm not so certain.

    It is true that engineered processes tend to have much more sensitive tolerances than biological processes, but they are usually more fit to purpose for the specific goal of their design: e.g. a car is much faster than a horse, even if a car can't eat grass and requires a vast infrastructure to support it. Likewise is true of solar cells versus photosynthetic life:


    Plants are less efficient at capturing the energy in sunlight than solar cells mostly because they have too much evolutionary baggage. Plants have to power a living thing, whereas solar cells only have to send electricity down a wire. This is a big difference because if photosynthesis makes a mistake, it makes toxic byproducts that kill the organism. Photosynthesis has to be conservative to avoid killing the organisms it powers.
     
    That said, there are various reasons to believe that some sort of biological analogue may find use going forward, but nonetheless it will still be very different from history. Even the biological analogue of evolution, after all, produces descendant species that are ultimately vastly different from their ancestors and I've often likened the creation of AI, even if it replaces us in total, as the replacement of humanity by their children.

    Replies: @EldnahYm

  • There's renewed rumors of war in the Donbass. But I don't think it's happening for a multitude of different reasons: Polls suggest that since around 2019 an outright majority of the LDNR wants direct union with Russia (<10% want independent, 12% want reintegration into Ukraine). The region is increasingly integrated into Russia de facto. The...
  • @AP
    @Gerard-Mandela


    It will and is already changing the cultural, social structure of the US and will clearly have big impact on crime
     
    They do, they lower the crime rate. They have made LA much safer.

    Ron Unz did a lot of research in this:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/the-myth-of-hispanic-crime/

    Replies: @EldnahYm

    They do, they lower the crime rate. They have made LA much safer.

    The claim that Hispanics have lowered the crime rate is dubious at best. Los Angeles in 1961 had a lower violent crime rate than any year after. The problem with Ron Unz’s analysis(or rather the conclusions people like you have drawn from it) is that it does not account effectively for secular trends in crime. So he picks certain years and points out that the crime rate has dropped since. He then observes that the Hispanic population has gone up in that time. But I can go back further, find data from the 1950s where the crime rate was not only lower than the years Ron Unz has picked, but lower than any year since. For the country as a whole, the cut-off point for homicide rate is 1957, every year after that has a higher homicide rate. Using the same logic, I can then argue Hispanics and minorities in general have greatly increased the rate of violent crime. Such an analysis would use the exact same methods as Unz’s and reach the opposite conclusion.

    To the extent Hispanics have caused decreases in crime rates in certain areas, it’s 1. a marginal phenomenon and 2. entirely a result of competition with Blacks which has driven Blacks out. I mentioned secular changes in crime rates, but another general trend is so-called Black flight(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_flight). Blacks have been moving out of the cities all across the country, not just in areas with a heavy Hispanic population. I emphasize this fact to anyone who wants to claim that Hispanics are good because they drive Blacks out, because mostly Blacks are not leaving because of Hispanics.

    On the other hand, one possible effect of Hispanic immigration is that it has further lowered the fertility of Blacks. If so, this could cause decreased crime rates. More research is needed on this topic.

    One of the points in Ron Unz’s analysis which is not emphasized, but it is implied in his data, is the difference between Mestizos from Mexico and Central America and mulattos from Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic(Cuba is an exception, because of socio-economic biases in migration patterns). Mestizos are mostly a simple, passive, easy to control group of people. Mulattos for genetic reasons are more criminally inclined. Unfortunately people have confused these differences, and made claims instead about so-called “White Hispanics.” “White Hispanics” are not easy to control, they are a menace and are most similar to Sicilian mafia families, Jews, and other undesirable groups who have been actively ruining the United States since arrival.

    Mestizos have famously low civic engagement. I point this out because it can’t be overemphasized, that whatever their crime rates in the United States, they are the beneficiaries of a society built by whites. What the effect of a continued decline in the white population will have on Hispanic crime rates is basically unknown.

    Hispanics are highly overrepresented for sex crimes by the way. This fact is always ignored when people talk up benefits of Hispanic immigration.

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    The claim that Hispanics have lowered the crime rate is dubious at best. Los Angeles in 1961 had a lower violent crime rate than any year after. The problem with Ron Unz’s analysis(or rather the conclusions people like you have drawn from it) is that it does not account effectively for secular trends in crime.
     
    He also points out that places with high Mexican populations have relatively low crime rates. America's safest large cities have large Mexican populations. The three safest cities, by homicide rates, of over 500,000 are San Diego, Austin, and El Paso. El Paso, TX is about 80% Mexican. San Diego and Austin, 30% and 35% in 2010 (surely higher now).

    “White Hispanics” are not easy to control, they are a menace and are most similar to Sicilian mafia families, Jews, and other undesirable groups who have been actively ruining the United States since arrival.
     
    Well, if you hate Italian immigration and wish that America remained a purely Anglo country (or at least a Germanic one, I guess you wouldn't mind Dutch or Germans), it makes sense that you would also hate the immigration of white Hispanics. At least you are consistent.

    Hispanics are highly overrepresented for sex crimes by the way.
     
    Links? I am not disputing this, I am curious. I wonder if it's an issue of immigrant-villagers having relationships with other younger age immigrant-villagers, I've heard of this happening with some immigrants from backwater areas of the Caucuses in the USA, such as mountain Jews.

    Hispanics are very much under-respresented among mass shooters:

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