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    @Fran Taubman
    @anon

    Oh Please that stupid salute, you think that is the reason he is being silenced? Listen to this skit.
    https://youtu.be/BSkUq-3JF3M

    Jews have a special concern with Jew hatred as the Catholic church accused the Jews and Judaism of deicide during the middle ages. Jews were considered Satanic, and Jewish rituals were considered a mortal sin. This cat and mouse game between Judaism and Catholicism played out from the middle ages until the Holocaust, which was really the culmination of Christian (Roman) Jew hatred. Germany and Hitelr had very little to do with the Holocaust other then the execution. It was Christian Jew hatred that the Jews killed Jesus and did not accept him as the savior. The Jews considered Jesus a charlatan, who practiced sorcery. A false idol. This did not go over well with the church. The ruling aristocracy decided where Jews could live and work, and ultimately their fate.

    In 2020 Islam is reviving this ancient Jew hatred. Jewish behavior does not cause Jew hatred, it is religiously oriented as Jews do not accept Jesus or Mohammed. This hatred must be stopped. It is dangerous. The Catholic church and Christians have come a long way in facing the truth about Jew hatred's causes and have removed the deicide charge and formed a brotherhood with Jews. Unfortunately the Jews still have Islam to deal with.

    Replies: @Anon, @anarchyst, @Iris, @Ilya G Poimandres, @Al Liguori, @Colin Wright

    Oh Please that stupid salute, you think that is the reason he is being silenced? Listen to this skit.

    ^^ Note the “Free Fellow American” who is good with her enemies being forcefully silenced.

    She doesn’t seem like an American to me.

    Jews have a special concern with Jew hatred

    Everyone has a “special concern” with hatred of them, just as we are concerned with the Jew hatred of White people today.

    The difference is that Jews try to forcefully silence their critics while enhancing their own ability to spread hatred.

    Consider ceasing your “special people” bullshit in regard to what Jews are entitled to.

    The World is sick of it and has repeatedly vomited all over itself due to to the relentless Jewish exceptionalism claims that it is forced to swallow such as what you state here. Take a hint.

    Today’s mostly Jewish owned news is full of anti-White hatred and not anti-Jew hatred.

    as the Catholic church accused the Jews and Judaism of deicide during the middle ages.

    The Jews are obviously guilty of deicide.

    They also never had a rightful place in Europe. It is not your land.

    What is your complaint, exactly?

    Jews were considered Satanic,

    Jews are very obviously satanic: from your open child sacrifice ritual on Passover (lamb = child) and the associated ever-consistent accusations, thus likely to be true, of Paschal child sacrifices of European children, to your scapegoat ritual offering to the “demon” god of all non-Jews on Yom Kippur so that Jews can get away with all of their sins unjudged (to include murder), to the murderous, nation destroying goal of the Jewish millenium, to your role as the murderer of the Shepherd, to your worship of the desert dragon Yahweh, to your role as the Dragon in Revelation who will give Power to the (Black) Beast of the Sea, you are Satanic.

    Note your constant accusations of us today, in regard to Blacks, Jews, the Holocaust Lie, and in regard to others. You are the False Accuser. You are Satan.

    Your false religion is simply a political scheme toward mass murder and world dominance, per your own books. “Satanic” may be too kind.

    Moreover, what rights do you believe that you have in the lands that you force yourselves on but are not yours?

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    and Jewish rituals were considered a mortal sin.

    Jewish rituals are Satanic.

    They are almost universally focused on destroying non-Jews.

    This cat and mouse game between Judaism and Catholicism played out from the middle ages until the Holocaust, which was really the culmination of Christian (Roman) Jew hatred.

    The Lie was the culmination of Jewish Evil in their attempt to scapegoat the Germans, in line with the most important ritual of Jews, the scapegoat sacrifice on the most important Jewish religious day of Yom Kippur, in order to blame Germany for your genocidal sins and so that you could attempt to operate uncritiqued.

    The Holocaust Lie is also in line with your identity and Satan’s role as the False Accuser.

    The Romans had every reason and right to hate Jews, as does everyone else.

    Jews openly act to murder, destroy, and enslave all others. Why would the Romans not hate you after you ethnically cleansed Cypress in the most barbaric of ways: treating the Cypriots like animals as you do all non-Jews today?

    Among many other atrocities and sins of Jews of which the Romans were aware, we’re sure.

    The motivation is explained ion your books, and observed in the real world.

    Jews cannot help but be at the center of World War, nation-destroying revolutions, and mass genocides. That is the essence of your religion.

    Your fruit is your guilt. Just as it is in the modern United States.

    Germany and Hitelr had very little to do with the Holocaust other then the execution. It was Christian Jew hatred that the Jews killed Jesus and did not accept him as the savior.

    The Holocaust is a Lie.

    But insofar as you wanted to avoid it, should it have been real, you could have simply fucked off to the Levant. As now.

    The truth is that there is too much to be gained through your parasitical behavior and your blood lust to do so, but then you complain about the hate that follows. You cannot have your cake and eat it too. These are not your lands. Back to Edom with you.

    The Russian Revolution and the worldwide Communist State, which murdered 100 million in the twentieth century, was the culmination of Jewish hatred of non-Jews, against which Germany reacted.

    Any massive crime of Jews against non-Jews, or bloodshed due to the involvement of Jews with non-Jewish affairs, is the culmination of Jewish hate against non-Jews.

    And here you are, just as media Jews attempt to spread slavery guilt from the actions of their ancestors and other elites onto all Whites, you attempt to scapegoat all of your enemies, including your ostensible Christian “countrymen”, via your Lie about one.

    That is the behavior of Satan, the False Accuser.

    You aren’t American. You’re a nasty little murderous subversive that is bent on destroying this country, as illustrated again by your scapegoating above of the Christians that you have always hated and that comprise most of this nation that you are obviously not a part of.

    Christianity is a response to Jewish murder, full stop.

    Christ is the resurrection of Abel and the murdered Paschal “Lamb” (non-Jewish child).

    Christ is the resurrection of the Shepherd of the Hills against the murderous men of the Plain and their Cities: Cain, the Canaanites, and the modern Jews. Tell Rechab “hello”.

    Christ’s resurrection is the reversal of the first murder and the reversal of the blackest magic of the Paschal murder of non-Jews.

    The Last Supper sacrament, the eating of the Tree of Life in opposition to comingling with Jews, their Dragon, and their secret “knowledge” that leads to death, is the reversal of Original Sin and the Fall.

    This is why Judas betrayed Christ, and this is why Jews hate Christianity.

    The Jews considered Jesus a charlatan, who practiced sorcery. A false idol.

    Yes, of course. Cain hates Abel. We know.

    But God hates Cain.

    Cain’s Father, the Serpent-Dragon or Satan, loves Cain.

    Christ is the reversal of nation-destroying, European-hating Jewish interests and Black magic in the World.

    Christ reverses the Fall, the First murder, and the Paschal murders. He will also return to destroy the Dragon and the Beast that are of the Jews.

    Of course Jews dislike him.

    This did not go over well with the church. The ruling aristocracy decided where Jews could live and work, and ultimately their fate.

    Due to their unwillingness to integrate and their genocidal ethics, Jews never had business existing outside of their traditional borders in the Levant but more specifically not outside of their territory that was South of Israel.

    In 2020 Islam is reviving this ancient Jew hatred.

    There can be no Jew hatred without Jews, and the Jewish “religion” is predicated on the hatred of all non-Jews who resist their destruction.

    Reaction to hatred is not hatred. It is the same self defense that the world has been long practicing against the band of hateful supremacist murderers called Jews.

    Moreover, Islam is a child of Judaism. It is nothing but a militant Judaism given to brown foot soldiers. In fact, the Jewish books state that it will be Islam that will destroy Europe in order to herald the Jewish millenium. In the Jewish books, Islam is a tool of the Jews.

    Jews assisted Islam in over-running Spain and changing it forever. Since then, no rational person cares about anti-Islamic Jewish complaints. Trusting Jews is waiting for a dagger in one’s back.

    Go ply your Islamic straw man somewhere else.

    Jewish behavior does not cause Jew hatred,

    Sure it does. The Jewish religion is predicated on hating non-Jews and destroying them for Jewish World domination in the Jewish Messianic Period. Jewish behavior that results from that is why people hate Jews. No other justification is necessary.

    Even now, we witness the Jews giving Power to Blacks to destroy this nation; following the central Jewish role in the “Civil Rights” movement that released them on us. This is all told of in the Book of Revelation.

    it is religiously oriented as Jews do not accept Jesus or Mohammed.

    Theologically, Christ is the anti-Jew. He is the resurrected Paschal Lamb. He is resurrected Abel: the man who is in the lineage that was created in the image of God. He was killed by a man that was in Satan’s lineage. Just as the Jews killed Christ.

    Of course Jews don’t accept him, but they also should not complain that he exists in self defense of Jews. That is the price of genocidal Jewry.

    Mohammed is a made up Jewish egrogore for an army of brown people that serves Jewish interests via over-running other nations. Save your straw man references to it.

    This hatred must be stopped. It is dangerous.

    The hatred of the Jewish religion must be stopped. It is dangerous.

    The Catholic church and Christians have come a long way in facing the truth about Jew hatred’s causes and have removed the deicide charge

    LOL… it is impossible to actually “remove” the deicide charge if you understand Christianity, or even your own religion (which I doubt), at all.

    It is the support pillar of the entire structure. Anyone can make statements. The theology is unchangeable. The theology is coded well and embedded as the central pillar, even in your Tanakh that you stole from Israel, but there are obvious parts in the New Testament where it is not and it is out there for anyone to read. That hasn’t been changed either. Nothing has actually been changed. But keep telling yourself what you wish.

    You simply cannot live with us and, per your own open theology, are seen as the enemy of us and our God. Which are actually central premises of your religion. Ergo, it is nonsensical for you to live among us unless you plan on destroying us.

    and formed a brotherhood with Jews. Unfortunately the Jews still have Islam to deal with.

    It is theologically impossible for Christians to form a brotherhood with Jews.

    Your more learned Rabbis know this, which is why they are still intent on leaving the door open for Islam in Europe, per their statements as well of the statements of your major international organizations, and intent on destroying European nations and Christianity in full. Also per your books and their rabbinical commentaries.

    But why would Jews think it necessary to be so central to the World, and ever present outside of their own territory, that every nation must change their racial, religious, and national natures to accomadate them?

    Such a demand confirms Hitler’s statements about Jews.

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  • @anon
    @Fran Taubman

    Ten years ago, on December 1, 2003, as guest on a TV show appropriately called “You Can’t Please Everybody”, dedicated to current events, Dieudonné came on stage roughly disguised as “a convert to Zionist extremism” advising others to get ahead by “joining the American-Israeli Axis of Good”. This was in the first year of the US assault on Iraq,
    The sketch ended with a brief salute, “Isra-heil”. This was far from being vintage Dieudonné, but nevertheless, the popular humorist was at the time enthusiastically embraced by other performers while the studio audience gave him a standing ovation.

    Then the protests started coming in, especially concerning the final gesture seen as likening Israel to Nazi Germany.

    “Anti-Semitism!” was the cry, although the target was Israel (and the United States as allies in the Middle East). Calls multiplied to ban his shows, to sue him, to destroy his career.----

    To invent a pretext for destroying Dieudonné, the leading Jewish organizations CRIF (Conseil Représentatif des Institutions Juives de France, the French AIPAC) and LICRA (Ligue internationale contre le racisme et l’antisémitisme, which enjoys special privileges under French law) have come up with a fantasy to brand Dieudonné and his followers as “Nazis”. The quenelle is all too obviously a vulgar gesture roughly meaning “up yours”, with one hand placed at the top of the other arm pointing down to signify “how far up” this is to be.

    But for the CRIF and LICRA, the quenelle is “a Nazi salute in reverse”. (You can never be too “vigilant” when looking for the hidden Hitler.)

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2014/01/01/the-bete-noire-of-the-french-establishment/

    At at time when Jewish were using anti Muslim rhetorics and anti Islam slogans to prod us wage war against Iraq Syria Saudi Arab even Egypt and showing the military how to think and market the attack . some French anti national was ganging up against an antiwar person ,antiwar nation ( French ddi not sign up for Iraq war ) and asking ban on the popular anti-war show .

    Replies: @Fran Taubman

    Oh Please that stupid salute, you think that is the reason he is being silenced? Listen to this skit.

    Jews have a special concern with Jew hatred as the Catholic church accused the Jews and Judaism of deicide during the middle ages. Jews were considered Satanic, and Jewish rituals were considered a mortal sin. This cat and mouse game between Judaism and Catholicism played out from the middle ages until the Holocaust, which was really the culmination of Christian (Roman) Jew hatred. Germany and Hitelr had very little to do with the Holocaust other then the execution. It was Christian Jew hatred that the Jews killed Jesus and did not accept him as the savior. The Jews considered Jesus a charlatan, who practiced sorcery. A false idol. This did not go over well with the church. The ruling aristocracy decided where Jews could live and work, and ultimately their fate.

    In 2020 Islam is reviving this ancient Jew hatred. Jewish behavior does not cause Jew hatred, it is religiously oriented as Jews do not accept Jesus or Mohammed. This hatred must be stopped. It is dangerous. The Catholic church and Christians have come a long way in facing the truth about Jew hatred’s causes and have removed the deicide charge and formed a brotherhood with Jews. Unfortunately the Jews still have Islam to deal with.

    • Troll: Bleuazur
    • Replies: @Anon
    @Fran Taubman


    Oh Please that stupid salute, you think that is the reason he is being silenced? Listen to this skit.
     
    ^^ Note the "Free Fellow American" who is good with her enemies being forcefully silenced.

    She doesn't seem like an American to me.


    Jews have a special concern with Jew hatred
     
    Everyone has a "special concern" with hatred of them, just as we are concerned with the Jew hatred of White people today.

    The difference is that Jews try to forcefully silence their critics while enhancing their own ability to spread hatred.

    Consider ceasing your "special people" bullshit in regard to what Jews are entitled to.

    The World is sick of it and has repeatedly vomited all over itself due to to the relentless Jewish exceptionalism claims that it is forced to swallow such as what you state here. Take a hint.

    Today's mostly Jewish owned news is full of anti-White hatred and not anti-Jew hatred.


    as the Catholic church accused the Jews and Judaism of deicide during the middle ages.
     
    The Jews are obviously guilty of deicide.

    They also never had a rightful place in Europe. It is not your land.

    What is your complaint, exactly?


    Jews were considered Satanic,
     
    Jews are very obviously satanic: from your open child sacrifice ritual on Passover (lamb = child) and the associated ever-consistent accusations, thus likely to be true, of Paschal child sacrifices of European children, to your scapegoat ritual offering to the "demon" god of all non-Jews on Yom Kippur so that Jews can get away with all of their sins unjudged (to include murder), to the murderous, nation destroying goal of the Jewish millenium, to your role as the murderer of the Shepherd, to your worship of the desert dragon Yahweh, to your role as the Dragon in Revelation who will give Power to the (Black) Beast of the Sea, you are Satanic.

    Note your constant accusations of us today, in regard to Blacks, Jews, the Holocaust Lie, and in regard to others. You are the False Accuser. You are Satan.

    Your false religion is simply a political scheme toward mass murder and world dominance, per your own books. "Satanic" may be too kind.

    Moreover, what rights do you believe that you have in the lands that you force yourselves on but are not yours?


    and Jewish rituals were considered a mortal sin.
     
    Jewish rituals are Satanic.

    They are almost universally focused on destroying non-Jews.


    This cat and mouse game between Judaism and Catholicism played out from the middle ages until the Holocaust, which was really the culmination of Christian (Roman) Jew hatred.
     
    The Lie was the culmination of Jewish Evil in their attempt to scapegoat the Germans, in line with the most important ritual of Jews, the scapegoat sacrifice on the most important Jewish religious day of Yom Kippur, in order to blame Germany for your genocidal sins and so that you could attempt to operate uncritiqued.

    The Holocaust Lie is also in line with your identity and Satan's role as the False Accuser.

    The Romans had every reason and right to hate Jews, as does everyone else.

    Jews openly act to murder, destroy, and enslave all others. Why would the Romans not hate you after you ethnically cleansed Cypress in the most barbaric of ways: treating the Cypriots like animals as you do all non-Jews today?

    Among many other atrocities and sins of Jews of which the Romans were aware, we're sure.

    The motivation is explained ion your books, and observed in the real world.

    Jews cannot help but be at the center of World War, nation-destroying revolutions, and mass genocides. That is the essence of your religion.

    Your fruit is your guilt. Just as it is in the modern United States.


    Germany and Hitelr had very little to do with the Holocaust other then the execution. It was Christian Jew hatred that the Jews killed Jesus and did not accept him as the savior.
     
    The Holocaust is a Lie.

    But insofar as you wanted to avoid it, should it have been real, you could have simply fucked off to the Levant. As now.

    The truth is that there is too much to be gained through your parasitical behavior and your blood lust to do so, but then you complain about the hate that follows. You cannot have your cake and eat it too. These are not your lands. Back to Edom with you.

    The Russian Revolution and the worldwide Communist State, which murdered 100 million in the twentieth century, was the culmination of Jewish hatred of non-Jews, against which Germany reacted.

    Any massive crime of Jews against non-Jews, or bloodshed due to the involvement of Jews with non-Jewish affairs, is the culmination of Jewish hate against non-Jews.

    And here you are, just as media Jews attempt to spread slavery guilt from the actions of their ancestors and other elites onto all Whites, you attempt to scapegoat all of your enemies, including your ostensible Christian "countrymen", via your Lie about one.

    That is the behavior of Satan, the False Accuser.

    You aren't American. You're a nasty little murderous subversive that is bent on destroying this country, as illustrated again by your scapegoating above of the Christians that you have always hated and that comprise most of this nation that you are obviously not a part of.

    Christianity is a response to Jewish murder, full stop.

    Christ is the resurrection of Abel and the murdered Paschal "Lamb" (non-Jewish child).

    Christ is the resurrection of the Shepherd of the Hills against the murderous men of the Plain and their Cities: Cain, the Canaanites, and the modern Jews. Tell Rechab "hello".

    Christ's resurrection is the reversal of the first murder and the reversal of the blackest magic of the Paschal murder of non-Jews.

    The Last Supper sacrament, the eating of the Tree of Life in opposition to comingling with Jews, their Dragon, and their secret "knowledge" that leads to death, is the reversal of Original Sin and the Fall.

    This is why Judas betrayed Christ, and this is why Jews hate Christianity.


    The Jews considered Jesus a charlatan, who practiced sorcery. A false idol.
     
    Yes, of course. Cain hates Abel. We know.

    But God hates Cain.

    Cain's Father, the Serpent-Dragon or Satan, loves Cain.

    Christ is the reversal of nation-destroying, European-hating Jewish interests and Black magic in the World.

    Christ reverses the Fall, the First murder, and the Paschal murders. He will also return to destroy the Dragon and the Beast that are of the Jews.

    Of course Jews dislike him.


    This did not go over well with the church. The ruling aristocracy decided where Jews could live and work, and ultimately their fate.
     
    Due to their unwillingness to integrate and their genocidal ethics, Jews never had business existing outside of their traditional borders in the Levant but more specifically not outside of their territory that was South of Israel.

    In 2020 Islam is reviving this ancient Jew hatred.
     
    There can be no Jew hatred without Jews, and the Jewish "religion" is predicated on the hatred of all non-Jews who resist their destruction.

    Reaction to hatred is not hatred. It is the same self defense that the world has been long practicing against the band of hateful supremacist murderers called Jews.

    Moreover, Islam is a child of Judaism. It is nothing but a militant Judaism given to brown foot soldiers. In fact, the Jewish books state that it will be Islam that will destroy Europe in order to herald the Jewish millenium. In the Jewish books, Islam is a tool of the Jews.

    Jews assisted Islam in over-running Spain and changing it forever. Since then, no rational person cares about anti-Islamic Jewish complaints. Trusting Jews is waiting for a dagger in one's back.

    Go ply your Islamic straw man somewhere else.


    Jewish behavior does not cause Jew hatred,
     
    Sure it does. The Jewish religion is predicated on hating non-Jews and destroying them for Jewish World domination in the Jewish Messianic Period. Jewish behavior that results from that is why people hate Jews. No other justification is necessary.

    Even now, we witness the Jews giving Power to Blacks to destroy this nation; following the central Jewish role in the "Civil Rights" movement that released them on us. This is all told of in the Book of Revelation.


    it is religiously oriented as Jews do not accept Jesus or Mohammed.
     
    Theologically, Christ is the anti-Jew. He is the resurrected Paschal Lamb. He is resurrected Abel: the man who is in the lineage that was created in the image of God. He was killed by a man that was in Satan's lineage. Just as the Jews killed Christ.

    Of course Jews don't accept him, but they also should not complain that he exists in self defense of Jews. That is the price of genocidal Jewry.

    Mohammed is a made up Jewish egrogore for an army of brown people that serves Jewish interests via over-running other nations. Save your straw man references to it.


    This hatred must be stopped. It is dangerous.
     
    The hatred of the Jewish religion must be stopped. It is dangerous.

    The Catholic church and Christians have come a long way in facing the truth about Jew hatred’s causes and have removed the deicide charge
     
    LOL... it is impossible to actually "remove" the deicide charge if you understand Christianity, or even your own religion (which I doubt), at all.

    It is the support pillar of the entire structure. Anyone can make statements. The theology is unchangeable. The theology is coded well and embedded as the central pillar, even in your Tanakh that you stole from Israel, but there are obvious parts in the New Testament where it is not and it is out there for anyone to read. That hasn't been changed either. Nothing has actually been changed. But keep telling yourself what you wish.

    You simply cannot live with us and, per your own open theology, are seen as the enemy of us and our God. Which are actually central premises of your religion. Ergo, it is nonsensical for you to live among us unless you plan on destroying us.


    and formed a brotherhood with Jews. Unfortunately the Jews still have Islam to deal with.
     
    It is theologically impossible for Christians to form a brotherhood with Jews.

    Your more learned Rabbis know this, which is why they are still intent on leaving the door open for Islam in Europe, per their statements as well of the statements of your major international organizations, and intent on destroying European nations and Christianity in full. Also per your books and their rabbinical commentaries.

    But why would Jews think it necessary to be so central to the World, and ever present outside of their own territory, that every nation must change their racial, religious, and national natures to accomadate them?

    Such a demand confirms Hitler's statements about Jews.

    , @anarchyst
    @Fran Taubman

    Your statement: The Catholic church and Christians have come a long way in facing the truth about Jew hatred’s causes and have removed the deicide charge and formed a brotherhood with Jews.
    although correct in your assessment of today's situation...will result in the (attempted) destruction of Christianity.
    This "brotherhood" that you speak of is completely one-sided and is used as an article of conquest which is an attempt to destroy Christianity from within.
    While Christians have tempered their attitudes towards jews, the jews have not changed one bit and consider Christianity the mortal enemy of judaism.
    Jews harbor a visceral hatred of Christianity, but are not above "using" Christians for their own nefarious purposes.
    Many Christians, (even Catholics) are so naive that they cannot see the hatred of Christianity that jews harbor. Vatican II destroyed much of original Catholic doctrine and replaced it with Protestantism, modern-day Catholicism becoming Protestantism-light".
    As long as the shekels keep flowing to the jews from these misguided Christian groups, all is well.
    If and when Christians realize that they have been used, abused, and lied to by jewish supremacists, that will change.
    As it stands now, the jews' favorite military song is "Onward Christian Soldiers"...

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    @Fran Taubman


    In 2020 Islam is reviving this ancient Jew hatred.
     
    The main thing that is reviving Jew hatred is the intellectual terrorism inflicted upon Western nations. It is the ethnic cleansing, genocide, blowing up of children's limbs, widespread life imprisonment and torture of political prisoners occurring against the ancient nation of Palestine.
    Oh, and I forgot to mention.: it is the modern-time extermination camp called Gaza, where 1.8 million people are left to rot alive.

    No need to search too far for the stinking sh*t of hatred Taubman, up the street of Soral, of White European "anti-Semitism", or of Islam; it is actually pouring out the top of your Zionist ilk's head, so everybody is seeing it, smelling it and sickened by it, except you.

    , @Ilya G Poimandres
    @Fran Taubman


    The Jews considered Jesus..
     
    But why the past tense? Where is the updated passage in the Mishnah or Gemara that states that Jesus wasn't a cunt born of a cesspit?!

    Jewish behavior does not cause Jew hatred..
     
    No, the Jewish faith believes in one directional cause and effect. Jews can monopolise the business of a city like Odessa in the mid 19th, then extort wealth (like a Mafia), but the hate that arises from such action is, of course, only the fault of the other.

    I am, not Christian. I read as many legal systems as possible - theological, secular, it is interesting to see how different cultures interpret ethics, morality, society, the individual, etc.

    Sure there have been some crazier legal systems, but in the modern, non Aztec world, Talmudic law is the darkest of the lot.

    I just spent a holiday with the mother of my goddaughter. I see the result of 'act, before you think' in her. She sees it too. A parent that demands 'act, before you think', is not a parent, but a slaver, trying to force their kids to their version of slavery, and 'for their own good'.

    It's 'I hit you cause I love you', on a monumental scale. The Jewish God is a slaver. So is the Muslim God for that matter, but at least his slavery is less harsh and sectarian, imo.
    , @Al Liguori
    @Fran Taubman


    Jews …blah, blah, blah…the Catholic church …blah, blah, blah…Jews and Judaism…blah, blah, blah…Judaism and Catholicism …blah, blah, blah…Jew hatred. Germany and Hitelr [sic] had very little to do with the Holocaust other then [sic] the execution. It was Christian Jew hatred …blah, blah, blah…The Jews considered Jesus a charlatan, who practiced sorcery. A false idol. …blah, blah, blah…the church [sic]…blah, blah, blah…Jews…blah, blah, blah…and ultimately their fate.
     
    The Synagogue of Satan was primarily and disproportionately responsible for deadly revolutions IN Germany (the Berlin Spartacists and Bavarian Socialist Republic).
    The Synagogue of Satan was primarily and disproportionately responsible for deadly revolutions that killed MILLIONS near Germany.
    The Synagogue of Satan DECLARED WAR on Germany in 1933.
    The Synagogue of Satan is damn lucky that only 270,000 of them died in a war and revolutions that they started. Own it!

    God says YOU are idol worshippers. Own it! http://judaism.is/images/idol%20worshippers459x593.jpg
    , @Colin Wright
    @Fran Taubman

    'In 2020 Islam is reviving this ancient Jew hatred. Jewish behavior does not cause Jew hatred, it is religiously oriented as Jews do not accept Jesus or Mohammed.'

    That's a really irritating fallacy -- that Jewish behavior does not cause 'Jew hatred.'

    You just have to be the absolutely snowily innocent lambs, don't you? Just about the only ones in all of humanity, I would say...

    The fact is, that like everyone else, what happens to you is pretty directly connected with what you did. That doesn't necessarily mean you deserved it, although presumably on occasion you -- like everyone else -- did.

    And as long as you refuse to admit this fact, you'll never get anywhere. You'll keep repeating the same behaviors that produced the undesirable consequences in the past, then bleat when it produces those same consequences again.

    Replies: @Al Liguori

  • This is the second of three articles drawing attention to major structural problems in our history of Europe in the first millennium AD. In the first article (“How fake is Roman Antiquity?”), we have argued that the forgery of ancient books during the Renaissance was more widespread than usually acknowledged, so that what we think...
  • @Seraphim
    @Ano4

    Satan is 'activated' by the disobedience of Adam, when he presumed that he can judge God, accusing him of lying to him. He empowers Satan who was nothing more than a brute on the earth, albeit crafty.

    Replies: @Bleuazur, @Ano4, @Radicalcenter

    I think there’s no difference between Satan and your “God”, the latter being in my opinion the hate- and vengeful Yahwe of the Israelits, but also the Demiurge/chief-Archon from the Gnostic writings (see the Nag Hammadi codexes). And well, this “entity” also has got his “chosen people” obviously working on Humanity’s enslavement.

    As for Adam and Eve’s serpent… I often ask myself if he really was evil, and if the contrary wouldn’t be the case. After all, didn’t he want to free humankind from this tyrannic god, by giving them knowledge ?

    I try never forget how cruel and disgusting this jealous god from the OT is… and after all, even in the NT it’s the same one! In my opinion Christians actually worship Satan…

    After all we live in a world where all is inverted, upside down. As the Gnostics put it, we’re all living in “error”, and have to break out of that. I believe this monotheist / Jesus scam is a big part of this error.

    We’re sovereign beings and need no one to tell us what to do!

    • Replies: @Seraphim
    @Bleuazur

    The first and gravest delusion of 'We, I, Mine' is that we are 'sovereign beings'. Until you lose the sovereignty over your sphincters. But that might be the liberation of 'humankind' from the tyranny of those who impose on 'we' the unbearable obligation not to wee or poop in public.

  • @Bleuazur
    @First Millennium Revisionist

    Pas mal ! Et une preuve historique importante en plus :)

    Sinon, c'est tiré de quel Astérix svp ?

    Replies: @First Millennium Revisionist

    Astérix légionnaire.

    • Thanks: Bleuazur
  • @Ano4
    @First Millennium Revisionist

    But if Roman Empire did not conquer Gaul there should be no Asterix comics.

    Did I miss something?

    Replies: @Bleuazur

    Yes, indeed. Seems as if Uderzo and Goscinny (Asterix’s creators) were also part of the conspiracy 😉

    • Agree: Ano4
  • @First Millennium Revisionist
    @First Millennium Revisionist

    I thought Romans only wrote on stone ! (just kidding)
    https://i.postimg.cc/XqLpG2L0/Asterix.jpg

    Replies: @Ano4, @Bleuazur

    Pas mal ! Et une preuve historique importante en plus 🙂

    Sinon, c’est tiré de quel Astérix svp ?

    • Replies: @First Millennium Revisionist
    @Bleuazur

    Astérix légionnaire.

  • @First Millennium Revisionist
    @eknibbs

    Your evidence and your confidence that the lists of consuls available here and there are relatively consistent and therefore basically authentic is an argument that I cannot reject. I read here and there, however (and no further than Wikipedia), that your confidence is not shared by all scholars, one reason being that Livy says that the fasti had been destroyed durint the sack of 390 BC. But let's assume that those fasti consulares do provide evidence of the Roman Republic ; does that refute the theory of my two articles ? No. Remember, I do not dispute the existence of the Roman Republic, I only dispute its date: it was founded in 1144. Just like the SPQR sign, the Fasti Capitolini engraved in marble could very well be medieval. Now the question is: do we have any independent evidence that medieval Rome have consuls? It seems that there are plenty of affirmations that medieval Rome was a Republic with consuls. However, for some reason, their lists are lost, and just a few names are known (correct me if I'm wrong). So here again we bump into the very puzzling fact that we know so much about the ancient Roman Republic, but so little about the medieval one, which is undoubtedly real but which, strangely, left no archeological strata. I am reminded that Fomenko and Nosovsky actually made that hypothesis that “the ‘mysteriously missing’ mediaeval lists of the Roman consuls from the Middle Ages, which have been arbitrarily displaced into ‘deep antiquity’ by learned historians” (vol. 2, chap. 2, p. 111).
    You are certainly going to comment that my theory is unfalsifiable in the Popperian sense! But that is not the case: it could be falsified by archeology, and that is why I hold on to Heinsohn’s approach. The notion that the Roman Republic n°1 is a phantom retro-projection of Roman Republic n°2 could be proven false if, stratigraphically, those papyrus fragments that you mentioned could be scientifically dated from Antiquity. In the case of Rome, with only one strata out of the three that Heinsohn requires, it is impossible. The only way would be to Carbon 14, assuming it is of any worth, and to prove that papyrus was out of use in the MA. Was it really? (not a rethorical question)

    Replies: @First Millennium Revisionist, @eknibbs

    I thought Romans only wrote on stone ! (just kidding)

    • LOL: Bleuazur
    • Replies: @Ano4
    @First Millennium Revisionist

    But if Roman Empire did not conquer Gaul there should be no Asterix comics.

    Did I miss something?

    Replies: @Bleuazur

    , @Bleuazur
    @First Millennium Revisionist

    Pas mal ! Et une preuve historique importante en plus :)

    Sinon, c'est tiré de quel Astérix svp ?

    Replies: @First Millennium Revisionist

  • @Smith
    @Unorthodox Black Sheep VN

    This guy actually sounds kinda obsessed, but let’s deal with this one by one.


    I told you that I don’t know Fomenko’s book so I cannot judge the book is right or wrong, don’t change topic, Mr. Smith, I don’t say anything like ‘I understand Fomenko’s book better than you’, I am pointing out your unstable behavior here.
     
    There are claims from Fomenko’s book right here, it takes about one hour to read what he claims about China/India/Asia, so you are being willfully ignorant.

    My crazy and stupid typo, yes, I mean you compare Ukro-Nazi and Russia to Vietnam and China, my bad for making you confused. Yes, you are delusional and idiot when compare Ukro-Nazi to Vietnam. I truly don’t see how Ukro-Nazi is same to Vietnam. You don’t live in Ukraine so you don’t know how Ukrainian think about Russia and their own government. You will remind you again the Ukraine History:
     
    What? I have talked to ukies and ruskies, and the ruskies share the big brother attitude towards ukies, while ukies share insecurity belief, very like viets and chinks. And the way you repeat “Ukraine history” (muh part of Russia) is like chinks repeating “Viet history” (muh part of China), which reinforces my point.

    Slurs are slurs, that right but you are overused them so like a person who love to say ‘fuck you’ so uncontrollable in every argument.
     
    I like slurs, I use slurs, simple as.

    Tell me more about your experiences in many countries because if you truly visit many countries like you claim, then you will realize that there are good and bad people around the world.
     
    Other countries are fine, some parts superior to VN, some inferior. And the fact good and bad people exist do not matter in the usage of slurs. Do you even understand language?

    However, many people here does not understand your rude behavior so they will automatically think you are racism.
     
    They can think me of anything they want, it doesn’t matter to me. Racism/sexism is the biggest hot air on the internet.

    If I just misunderstand, so my bad, ok? But I truly don’t think I misunderstand what you say. I, in fact, think that you believe Russia culture is truly inferior from the European text book, European always denied the Eastern Culture, especially Russia, so why Fomenko cannot make counter-argument?
     
    Russia culture is not “eastern culture”, ancient Russian culture is very close to Germanic tribe, while medieval Russian and modern Russian culture are distinctly European, even the Mongolian element didn’t hold on. And no, I don’t believe Russian culture is inferior, but it is an appendage of western civilization from Greece & Rome, just like how Vietnam and Japan culture are based from ancient China civilization. Fomenko is butthurt that the Russian didn’t have much activity in Antiquity, that’s why he claims neither West or East ancient civilizations exist, and what exists instead is a “blue hair fair eyed” Rus-turk slavic horde with one history, and both ancient West and East histories are actually rip-off/rewrite of this Rus-turk slav horde “history”. So if Fomenko actually denies Eastern Culture (China/India), why can’t I make counter-argument?

    I also like European culture too but that does not equal to ‘overprotective on European (possible fake) history’ like you are doing right now.
     
    Where is the overprotectiveness? Fomenko not only claims ancient Western civilization as fake, but ALSO Eastern civilization as fake, and ancient Asian(China/India) history is actually the retold version of European/his own rus-turk horde history. Fomenko actually shits more on asian history, because at least he believes the Byzantium/European rus-turk horde history is the legit one.

    I mean did those Han trader have so much free time to take research the Rome is actually empire or not? Or those Han Trader just had only time at the Roman Port City? ‘Roman Empire’ might be just a self-proclaim name same to the name Dai Viet (Great Viet) meanwhile not great in fact especially we Vietnamese must pay ‘the independent fee’ to China every year, right?
     
    Yes, it does mean that the Roman Empire exists, since Han (something Fomenko claims is ALSO fake) traders can arrive in a Roman city belonging to the ancient Roman empire, which didn't exist for Fomenko. Also, there is proof on both sides that Vietnam paid the “independence fee” to China, there’s no proof that such a thing happens between Han and Rome, too freaking far apart.

    How can I believe you just truly don’t understand the word ‘Sinophilia’ and ‘Sinophobia’ with mocking behavior like that? I call you mental illness because I conclude this from your own behaviors and opinions since beginning, especially compare Ukraine and Vietnam, and supporting those traitor Hong Kong. By the way, you think Hong Kong can survive with itself? Hong Kong is belong to China historically.
     
    Because I don’t? You are using big words that I don’t understand. And there is two China right now, so which HK does China belong to? In even ChiCom land, South China vs North China has always been a point of conflict, and I, as Vietnamese, support Cantonese who is culturally very similar to Vietnam over northern Chinese.

    Ok, if you truly don’t understand the word, so I will explain:
    Sinophilia – Same to the word ‘Zoophilia’
    Sinophobia – Fear of China symptom.
     
    I don't fear China and I google Zoophilia:

    Zoophilia is a paraphilia involving a sexual fixation on non-human animals.
     
    I don't have a sexual fixation on non-human animals, and even I don't think chinks as "non-human animals”.

    You are right that most of Fomenko citation is Russian ones, Anatoly Formenko should take Chinese ones as the counter-argument, but can you prove that the Russian citation are false? You are being cherry picky, sir!
     
    I can prove it, because there’s actually NO proof of it being real. Fomenko claims some quotations from unknown shitty Russian historian, with no evidence NOR source backing it. I too can make that claim[1], can you prove me wrong? And “cherry picky” really, do you understand this word? It means you only pick the red cherry on the cake and ignore everything else, Fomenko himself does this by exclusively using European/Russian sources to form conclusion about Asian/Eastern history.

    How about ask Mr. Unz come here to confirm that your fake email is unique coincidence same to the email of ‘2010 Smith’? If it is right, so I am a fool, and I will admit that I am a fool.
     
    Why? You are free to believe what you want.
    In fact, I worry about your own mental health if some fake email on the internet truly bothers you so much. Cheer up dude, and suck Russian dick less, they are not asian, they don’t get to shittalk actual eastern culture/history.
    [1] Some Dude's Book, by Mr. Nguyen Van Teo, page 1, line 1, “Fomenko has no verifiable source”.

    Replies: @Seraphim, @Unorthodox Black Sheep VN

    All these Fomenko-Heinsohn fanboys rather sound kinda ‘possessed’. They ‘answer’ any criticism of their lunacies foaming at the mouth, like demonized people. They cannot bear the Truth of the Church. It is clear that ‘Chronology Revisionism’ is a demonic cult, rooted in ‘gnosticism’.

    • LOL: Bleuazur
    • Replies: @SeekerofthePresence
    @Seraphim

    “... I write so that you may know how you ought to conduct yourself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

    “And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness:

    “God was manifested in the flesh,
    Justified in the Spirit,
    Seen by angels,
    Preached among the Gentiles,
    Believed on in the world,
    Received up in glory.” 1 Tim. 3:15, 16 NKJV

    Blessed is He who was, and is, and is to come.

    Replies: @Seraphim

    , @taylorseries
    @Seraphim

    That "the Church" is based upon blatant lies (both the OT and NT are clearly fiction) doesn't depend upon radical historical revisionism of the Fomenko or Heinsohn kind being true.

  • @First Millennium Revisionist
    @Robjil

    That's interesting, thanks. It seems he gave the same lecture (with the same title, at least) in 2017. But the important question is: What did he say in his lecture? I couldn't find the answer, apart from that brief sentence in some report:


    Gunnar Heinsohn constructs his demographic theory on the premise that the youth bulge is a socially destabilizing factor, which can be regarded as the other side of the coin of “geriatric peace.”
     
    If I was invited to NATO to give a conference (for a generous fee), hell, I would go. I would even get a hair cut for the occasion. Wouldn't you go? Why not?

    Replies: @Robjil, @Iris, @Bleuazur

    I agree with you that something is really wrong with official history, and read your articles with much interest (really thanks very much for them !) – I’m also looking forward to your 3rd one (why not a fourth article by the way ?).
    I’m no expert in history, so I can’t butt in the technical discussion.

    Also even if I disagree with some people’s comments here, I can’t help but agree with for instance Robijl as for Heinsohn’s “profile”. He would only be trustworthy if it could be proven his historical researches are completely honest, independant from his “NATO” and other intelligence jobs (with no hidden agenda of course) and he would publish whatever stratigraphical findings reveal, wherever that may be.

    What I mean : as far as I know, in Israel there has hardly no archeological evidence been found corroborating the Biblical narrative. Then there’s also Fomenko’s assertion that the Jerusalem in Israel is a “fake” one, and was built on a former small village just 200 years ago… (I’m not an unconditional Fomenko fan, much of his stuff is a bit “too much” for me, but his arguments concerning Jerusalem may be valid).

    So the problem is : would Heinsohn be really honest and impartial, that is also publish on (lack of) stratigraphical evidence in Jerusalem / Israel, considering what this might imply?

    Being an Israel fan (is he a jew btw ?), I’m quite sure he wouldn’t. So what ? Just one part of Antiquity is fake, but not the other, biblical one?

    So there might be indeed a serious bias concerning his approach.

    • Thanks: Iris
  • @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan
    @A Portuguese Man


    The thing is this feud and the viciousness it still raises were news to me. So far I’ve only ever seen the Orthodox side apologists, but I expect the other side to be no less vicious.
     
    No, we're mostly just baffled by the appalling quality of his work.

    I've sent this guy's articles to a Latin scholar, and he laughed out loud at the volume of his errors.

    Replies: @First Millennium Revisionist, @A Portuguese Man

    I’ve sent this guy’s articles to a Latin scholar, and he laughed out loud at the volume of his errors.

    When he has finished laughing, can you ask him to provide some rational refutation, or at least try. My main purpose here is debate. I’m not addressing primary school children who report to their master, but educated adults who are open to intellectual challenge and can engage in constructive debate. I’m willing to be convinced I’m wrong. So where am I wrong?

    • Agree: V. K. Ovelund, Bleuazur
    • Replies: @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan
    @First Millennium Revisionist

    In a nutshell: Your understanding of Latin is subpar and it's as if you've never heard of Mommsen.

    Replies: @V. K. Ovelund

  • There are only two nations in the world whose existence seems to be founded primarily on historical myths. In the US, false historical mythology permeates every nook and cranny of the American psyche, the result of more than 100 years of astonishing and unconscionable programming and propaganda, a massive crime against an entire population. This...
  • @vot tak
    @Bombercommand

    "I can find no evidence that the European designs, prior to the Wrights turned and maneuvered."

    Given the location you keep your head at:

    https://www.decalguy.com/prod_images_large/1084.jpg

    It's unlikely you'll ever find anything beyond your own fecal matter, sclomo. Which I'm sure suits you fine.

    :-D

    As for others flying in circles without the sacred name:

    Henri Farman
    French pioneer aviator and airplane manufacturer

    https://www.britannica.com/biography/Henri-Farman

    "French aviation pioneer and aircraft builder who popularized the use of ailerons, moveable surfaces on the trailing edge of a wing that provide a means of lateral control.

    With his brother, Maurice Farman, he modified a Voisin pusher biplane, now known as the Voisin-Farman I, and in January 1908 won an important prize for the first circular flight of 1 km (0.6 mile). In 1909 he set a world record for endurance with a flight of 234.3 km (145.59 miles) in the Farman III."

    They were doing turns, shlomo. Just not as tight. And that was where the Wrights made their impression. It was not that the europeans had not thought of rolling/banking, it was they thought it was too dangerous a manuever after the deaths of Lillianthal and Percey. They didn't understand stalls and worked towards making aircraft stable. The surprise the Wrights generated in their 1908 euro tour was that it was possible to bank an aircraft without seeing it slide to the ground due to loss of lift. (I realise this might be a little too technical for you, shlomo...). The euros were playing it conservative and trying to keep their experimental aircraft level as much as possible, going for stability, due to this. Claiming they did not create maneuverable aircraft is dishonest, or that of an adolescent bugger wannabe.

    The Wright's obsession with greed and their desire to make everyone pay them to build an aeroplane actually set back aviation in some ways. But it also advanced it in others, as inventers worked on other avenues to avoid the Wright frivolous legal actions.

    The Wright's wing warping was at the time a great breakthrough, but it was a dead end. Within a year, by 1909, it was an obvious wrong direction. A warped wing is a very weak wing, mechanically, can't handle G forces. It is also not a very accurate method of controlling lift. Ailerons work much better. At least then and now. Likely future construction materials will alter this fact.

    The Wrights compounded this by attempting to stifle aviation by trying to force inventers to pay them. This screwed up aviation advancement in the usa big time and both hampered aviation elsewhere with anearlier version of the familiar american sanctions thrown about now in tantrums.

    Replies: @ivan, @Bombercommand, @Bleuazur, @FB

    (…)It’s unlikely you’ll ever find anything beyond your own fecal matter, sclomo. Which I’m sure suits you fine.

    Why do you have to be so insulting??? I enjoy reading the arguments from everyone here, but you (and some others as well) do really behave in an unacceptable way and spoil my pleasure.

    There is a big lack of moderation here !

  • Thank you for revealing truths in the midst of lies.

    In my almost 70 years, I have learned the following:

    a) When I was 6 I realized the Easter Bunny could not be real. Rabbits don’t lay candy eggs.

    b) When I was 7, I realized that Santa Clause could not be real. He could not fit down the chimney, could not visit every house, and how could he carry all the stuff?

    c) At 15, I realized the Jesus myth could not be actual history. That is just not the way the world works.

    d) At 40, I realized the whole “War over Slavery” story was a myth. Nobody goes to war to do something nice for someone else. No one kills half a million of their own people to free someone else’s slaves. Lincoln said in his First Inaugural Address that he will not go to war over the issue of slavery, but he would attack the Confederate States if they did not pay pay their taxes or if they attacked one of his forts. It was a tax rebellion and it was put down with ruthless slaughter.

    e) At 50, I realized the Jewish Holocaust Myth was just propaganda. If the Germans wanted to kill the Jews they would have shot them. Instead, You want us to believe the Germans shipped them a hundred miles and housed them in a camp for 2 years, fed them, clothed them, gave them medical care, managed them, etc. And then, after 2 years, they engaged in a ridiculous Dr. Evil type of stunt to trick them into going into the shower so they can gas them. And where are the documents of the German military describing this operation?

    f) At 60, I realized there is no objective space-time as we see it. We are spirits, and our visual field of space-time-energy-matter is an appearance, as Parmenides said 2500 years ago.

    • Thanks: Bleuazur
    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
    @flashlight joe

    "as Parmenides said 2500 years ago."

    The ancient Indo-European Greeks were as far ahead of the Jews in spiritual insights as the Germans of WW2 were ahead of the Papuans in technical matters.

  • The issue of reparations and other compensation has been much in the news of late, most particularly in relationship to possible payments to descendants of slaves in the United States to compensate them for their disadvantages brought about by what is claimed to be a persisting racist culture in the country. There is, of course,...
  • We can’t leave the Middle East fast enough IMHO!! The Jew has made his bed and now will have to sleep in that nonsense he created! Good, I hope every so-called survivor is gone soon and we leave the Middle East to allow the Jew to begin the process of learning to live with its neighbors after Israel stole their land, GOOD RIDDANCE!! The overall behavior on the world stage of the Jewish people has been appalling at best, we honest Christians understand this mess, but the governments continue to fall for the scam of Jewish Chutzpah! Time to change some things around and if the Jew can’t get on board leave him to his fate! There was NO “Burnt Offering” it never happened and has been exploited by these clever money grubbers!

    • Agree: Bleuazur
    • Replies: @Greg Bacon
    @MIssouri Bear


    but the governments continue to fall for the scam of Jewish Chutzpah
     
    Thanks to shekel storms that fall on DC and in state capitols. Those who resist that are caught in some Mossad honey pot, like Epstein's and blackmailed.

    Those that resist both, like Cynthia McKinney, get the full weight of billionaire Jews behind a Israeli First lackey.
  • This is the first of a series of three articles challenging the conventional historical framework of the Mediterranean world from the Roman Empire to the Crusades. It is a collective contribution to an old debate that has gained new momentum in recent decades in the fringe of the academic world, mostly in Germany, Russia, and...
  • @Seraphim
    @First Millennium Revisionist

    The truth is that the Gnostics were the first falsifiers of history, producing numerous 'alternative' Gospels and Apostolic writings to attack the Church from the inside. But yes, they were not Christians.
    Of course the 'cult of Mary' is not derived from the 'cult of Isis'. There is no need to repeat what you wrote already.

    Replies: @gay troll

    Your apology is pathetic, Gnosticism preceded the fake news of Jesus Christ and was one of the primary heresies that, demonstrating a pre-evangelic Christian theology derived from Pagan mystery, had to be repressed and destroyed by the Church fathers in order to promote their own credibility as historians and custodians of “revelation”. Marcion’s gospel is non historic and non Judaic yet clearly provides the outline for the Synoptics. Furthermore, the incarnated Son of god, born of a virgin mother, who is sent to redeem mankind, and perhaps sacrificed by cruxifixion and even consumed by the people, is Solar mythology that well predates the year Zero. One of the reasons Christianity is so resilient is that it appeals to the truth. It rebukes Jewish chauvinism and enshrines Pagan theology along with pacific philosophy. But by insisting on itself as history, Christianity has poisoned the well of Western culture with Jewish scripture, and the disagreement between Christian and Jewish perspectives is irreconcilable, since both depend on a propagandist understanding of history.

    To believe in Christianity is to believe that the Jewish prophets could see the future, that Jesus Christ was the last Jewish prophet, and that he foresaw the impending destruction of Jerusalem by Titus, who neatly fulfilled the “prophecies” of Christ’s return. To believe in Christianity is to worship Caesar as God, and to defer to Imperial power as a way of life.

    Christ meaning “anointed one” is identical to the Egyptian KRST or Karast which literally refers to the royal mummy who is anointed with oils in preparation for his resurrection in the afterlife. While the principle of eternal life is central to spiritual understanding (and let me hasten to add that I believe in God if not in its Abrahamic conception), the reservation of eternal life for a King only is a gross perversion of reality. We do not need to worship a Pharaoh, or a Caesar, or an Only Son seated beside a throne. Every living thing is a child of God and possessed of God’s power.

    • Troll: Seraphim
  • @First Millennium Revisionist
    @Bleuazur


    The searcher John Lash Lamb in Not in his image wrote that contrary to the official interpretations, Nag Hammadi codexes were not written by christians, but by highly educated pagans.
     
    That sounds extremely interesting to me, so I’ve just ordered the book. It has been my growing suspicion that, up to the Middle Ages, the gnostics that the Church were fighting (often under the generic name of Manicheans) were not Christians. We know they rejected the OT, but even their “NT” might have not been about a Jewish Messiah at all. For some reason (perhaps to disguise its own pagan roots), the Church has been trying to disguise as a fight against heresy what was a fight against pre-christian paganism. In Western Europe, paganism was not vanquished before the Gregorian Reform, and the cult of Mary that developed then is clearly derived from the cult of Isis. As for the East, Constantinople, the origin of Christianity there is harder to find, but it is inconceivable to me that Hagia Sophia was founded as a Christian basilica. The cult of Sophia is evidently what pagan “philosophers”, not Christian priests, were interested in. I’ll get into this in the next article.
    Et oui, je suis un peu français!

    Replies: @Bleuazur, @Seraphim

    This Not in his image is a great book, even if for someone living in the 21st century it’s difficult to understand the mentality and “état d’esprit” of the people behind the Codexes. So it was (at least to me) a tough and challenging reading, having to re-read many parts several times.

    Also I believe this philosophy / religion represents actually our real, deep roots (at least in Europe), of which we have been deprived for millenia now. In some way this deeply resonates inside me…

    For some reason (perhaps to disguise its own pagan roots), the Church has been trying to disguise as a fight against heresy what was a fight against pre-christian paganism.

    Indeed you’re probably right. I never bought the story for instance of the Cathars in Southern France being prosecuted by the catholic church because of some form of christian heresy. Quite sure they represented a survival of pagan cults.

    As for “Sofia” you’ll get a lot of answers about her in Lamb’s book!

    Et oui, je suis un peu français!

    “Un peu” juste ? Peut-être comme moi : je ne le suis en réalité qu’à moitié, l’autre étant allemande.

  • @Bleuazur
    @Commentator Mike

    It was about the first alphabet, not the first script.

    And it is most likely this Vinca stuff wasn't an alphabet at all, maybe not even a script.

    https://www.quora.com/What-is-currently-known-about-the-T%C4%83rt%C4%83ria-tablets-and-the-Vin%C4%8Da-symbols
    https://www.quora.com/If-Vinca-script-isnt-writing-what-are-the-symbols-thought-to-represent

    As for the Philistine alphabet (also named Phoenician alphabet), its roots go back to the old rune script of the Northern Europeans.

    Replies: @FB

    As for the Philistine alphabet (also named Phoenician alphabet), its roots go back to the old rune script of the Northern Europeans.

    Complete bullshit…you’re obviously completely uneducated…

    • Agree: vot tak
    • LOL: Bleuazur
    • Replies: @Grahamsno(G64)
    @FB

    I wish I had your gift for not tolerating such retards

  • In the comments, provide links to suggested external articles as starting points for Forum discussions, along with brief descriptions or justifications. Articles dealing with controversial or provocative topics published in influential outlets are preferable, especially if the publications or the particular authors do not allow comments themselves or heavily censor them.
  • @The Z Blog
    Ron, why not put up a vBulletin forum. It's cheap and secure. You can integrate posts here into it and have a forum for suggestions, questions to authors, etc. I've used it for years on a site I run and it would make you site stickier.

    Replies: @Ron Unz, @The Z Blog, @Bleuazur

    That would be a really great idea. This would also enable that the forum members write personal messages to one another, a feature which absence I really regret.

    And to be honest, I don’t see any difference between this ‘forum’ and the comments after the articles.

  • This is the first of a series of three articles challenging the conventional historical framework of the Mediterranean world from the Roman Empire to the Crusades. It is a collective contribution to an old debate that has gained new momentum in recent decades in the fringe of the academic world, mostly in Germany, Russia, and...
  • @Bleuazur
    @antibeast

    I don’t agree at all with you about “Germanic barbarians without their own history write “Fake History”.

    This version of the cultures North from Rome being “barbarians” have long ago been debunked. Roman (fake?) writings spread this myth. Celts for instance created what is today wrongly attributed to Romans, like for instance the so-named “Roman roads” in Europe. Their civilization was highly advanced.

    And this is also relevant to even more ancient times : Jürgen Spanuth, a german searcher proved the old Germans were highly evolved. More than 3000 years ago, they were for instance the best seafarers and are at the origins of iron working. They also created the first alphabet, which later evolved to the Greek one. One of their main gods was Apollo…

    They were set up on islands of the North Sea (near Helgoland), which make up the actual Atlantis described by Platon (who was right, he just misdated the Atlantis story). In the 13th century BC, there was a (maybe) worldwide cataclysm, and those Germans lost their isles, and so went through almost whole Europe, in a South-Eastern direction. After having been beaten by the Athenians, they settled in the Middle-East where they were called the Philistines. Those brought their highly evolved civilization to the primitive tribes living there, especially the Israelites (which owe much to them – for instance, Solomon’s temple architect was a Philistine – thus a German!). The Philistines tried also to conquer Egypt, but failed. This is proven by ancient paintings in Egyptian temples which clearly show Northern warriors captured by the Egyptians (as well as their ships, that much resemble Viking ones).
    Part of the Philistines became the Phoenicians. Later on most of them went back to Greece and this time conquered it (they were called the “Heraklids”). They brought their culture to Greece, and are at the origins of the Hellenistic Greece.

    The author shows overwhelming evidence to support his thesis, especially archeological one. And seventy years ago, the remains of the principal isle of Atlantis were still visible in the North Sea, and completely matched Plato’s description (it is very precise and detailed). By the way, Helgoland is the only remaining part of Atlantis.

    My personal opinion after reading Spanuth’s books (Das enträtselte Atlantis, Die Philister, Die Rückkehr der Herakliden ; in English there’s also Atlantis – the mistery unraveled), is that old Germans are for sure at the origins of our Western culture.
    I know this won’t please everyone, so I can only encourage the reading of his books, available here (afaik the paper version isn’t available anymore) : https://b-ok.cc/s/spanuth

    And please, stop applying ideology to history. Even if a (in my opinion proven) theory doesn’t seem “politically correct” and/or doesnt fit your ideas,the truth is still the truth.

    Replies: @Commentator Mike, @antibeast

    This version of the cultures North from Rome being “barbarians” have long ago been debunked. Roman (fake?) writings spread this myth.

    My personal opinion after reading Spanuth’s books (Das enträtselte Atlantis, Die Philister, Die Rückkehr der Herakliden; in English there’s also Atlantis – the mystery unraveled), is that old Germans are for sure at the origins of our Western culture.

    Romans: “You Germanics are barbarians!”
    Germanics: “No! We wuz kangz!”

    • LOL: Bleuazur
  • @First Millennium Revisionist
    @Bleuazur

    I don't know if the Dead sea scrolls kept in Israel are forgeries. Could very well be. But allready a long time ago, I read Norman Golb's Who wrote the Dead Sea Scrolls and became convinced that, at least, the Essenian hypothesis which was from the very start imposed by the Catholic and Israeli scholars was completly unsubstantiated.

    Replies: @Bleuazur

    Thanks FMR!

    What is weird is that the Dead Sea scrolls and the Nag Hammadi codexes were (iirc) discovered the same year, and the locations were quite close to one another. Is that just sheer coincidence ?

    I find these codexes way more interesting than the scrolls. The searcher John Lash Lamb in Not in his image (one of the hardest readings I ever had, but really edifying) wrote that contrary to the official interpretations, they were not written by christians, but by highly educated pagans. The Gnostics who wrote them were conversely violently opposed to christianity, which they considered to be the biggest threat on humanity.

    The author pointed out that no one ever made a cross-match between the rolls and the codexes while they’re from the same region. And there are many elements that show that the ideology the Gnostics were fighting against was that of the people (Essenians maybe… or not) who wrote the Dead Sea scrolls.

    PS : thank you for your excellent article! I know it’s maybe indiscrete, but would you happen to be French? I ask you that because I myself am.

    • Replies: @First Millennium Revisionist
    @Bleuazur


    The searcher John Lash Lamb in Not in his image wrote that contrary to the official interpretations, Nag Hammadi codexes were not written by christians, but by highly educated pagans.
     
    That sounds extremely interesting to me, so I’ve just ordered the book. It has been my growing suspicion that, up to the Middle Ages, the gnostics that the Church were fighting (often under the generic name of Manicheans) were not Christians. We know they rejected the OT, but even their “NT” might have not been about a Jewish Messiah at all. For some reason (perhaps to disguise its own pagan roots), the Church has been trying to disguise as a fight against heresy what was a fight against pre-christian paganism. In Western Europe, paganism was not vanquished before the Gregorian Reform, and the cult of Mary that developed then is clearly derived from the cult of Isis. As for the East, Constantinople, the origin of Christianity there is harder to find, but it is inconceivable to me that Hagia Sophia was founded as a Christian basilica. The cult of Sophia is evidently what pagan “philosophers”, not Christian priests, were interested in. I’ll get into this in the next article.
    Et oui, je suis un peu français!

    Replies: @Bleuazur, @Seraphim

  • @Commentator Mike
    @Bleuazur


    They also created the first alphabet, which later evolved to the Greek one.
     
    Wrong. The first script originated in the original Vinca civilisation in the Balkans in the 6th to 5th millennia BC, from which other alphabets evolved.

    The Danube Script: Neo-Eneolithic Writing in Southeastern Europe
    MUSEUM OF HISTORY, CASA ALTEMBERGER, BRUKENTHAL NATIONAL MUSEUM, SIBU, ROMANIA, May 18-20, 2008.

    https://www.archaeomythology.org/archaeomythological-events/romania-2008/

    https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-f1094fb9c8145c3369b9650da665749d

    Replies: @Bleuazur

    It was about the first alphabet, not the first script.

    And it is most likely this Vinca stuff wasn’t an alphabet at all, maybe not even a script.

    https://www.quora.com/What-is-currently-known-about-the-T%C4%83rt%C4%83ria-tablets-and-the-Vin%C4%8Da-symbols
    https://www.quora.com/If-Vinca-script-isnt-writing-what-are-the-symbols-thought-to-represent

    As for the Philistine alphabet (also named Phoenician alphabet), its roots go back to the old rune script of the Northern Europeans.

    • Replies: @FB
    @Bleuazur


    As for the Philistine alphabet (also named Phoenician alphabet), its roots go back to the old rune script of the Northern Europeans.
     
    Complete bullshit...you're obviously completely uneducated...

    Replies: @Grahamsno(G64)

  • @antibeast
    @Hiram of Tyre

    In the 19th century for instance, the (eugenic) Anglo-Saxon ruling class claimed the ancient Greeks and the Romans were Germans. The historical Eastern migration was replaced with an invented one from the North. The Near Eastern people (Canaanites (Phoenicians), Egyptians, et al.) who were instrumental in the development of the Western world were erased.


     

    That's because the Anglo-Saxons are descendants of Germanic tribes from Northern Europe who settled in England after the Fall of Rome. But the Germanic tribes never became part of Greco-Roman Civilization, and were never Romanized by the Romans nor Hellenized by the Greeks. Tacitus wrote about them in his book Germania, calling them a primitive people with a warrior lifestyle.

    Bottom line: Ruling classes write History. The rest is history.


     

    Without a history of their own, the Anglo-Saxons had to invent their "fake history" of Western Civilization as exemplified by Nordicist theories expounded by Madison Grant in his book "Passing of the Great Race". Here's a quote:

    This is the race that gave the world the great civilizations of Egypt, of Crete, of Phoenicia including Carthage, of Etruria and of Mycenean Greece. It gave us, when mixed and invigorated with Nordic elements, the most splendid of all civilizations, that of ancient Hellas, and the most enduring of political organizations, the Roman State. To what extent the Mediterranean race entered into the blood and civilization of Rome, it is now difficult to say, but the traditions of the Eternal City, its love of organization, of law and military efficiency, as well as the Roman ideals of family life, loyalty, and truth, point clearly to a Nordic rather than to a Mediterranean origin.


     

    In other words, Nordicists claim that all the great civilizations of the Mediterranean World -- Egypt, Phoenicia, Greece, Rome -- came from the Nordic "race" who settled the Mediterranean and interbred with the Egyptians, Phoenicians, Greeks and Romans without which they would have remained as primitive as the Germanic tribes living in Northern Europe.

    Bottom line: Germanic barbarians without their own history write "Fake History". The rest is history.

    Replies: @Seraphim, @Hiram of Tyre, @Bleuazur

    I don’t agree at all with you about “Germanic barbarians without their own history write “Fake History”.

    This version of the cultures North from Rome being “barbarians” have long ago been debunked. Roman (fake?) writings spread this myth. Celts for instance created what is today wrongly attributed to Romans, like for instance the so-named “Roman roads” in Europe. Their civilization was highly advanced.

    And this is also relevant to even more ancient times : Jürgen Spanuth, a german searcher proved the old Germans were highly evolved. More than 3000 years ago, they were for instance the best seafarers and are at the origins of iron working. They also created the first alphabet, which later evolved to the Greek one. One of their main gods was Apollo…

    They were set up on islands of the North Sea (near Helgoland), which make up the actual Atlantis described by Platon (who was right, he just misdated the Atlantis story). In the 13th century BC, there was a (maybe) worldwide cataclysm, and those Germans lost their isles, and so went through almost whole Europe, in a South-Eastern direction. After having been beaten by the Athenians, they settled in the Middle-East where they were called the Philistines. Those brought their highly evolved civilization to the primitive tribes living there, especially the Israelites (which owe much to them – for instance, Solomon’s temple architect was a Philistine – thus a German!). The Philistines tried also to conquer Egypt, but failed. This is proven by ancient paintings in Egyptian temples which clearly show Northern warriors captured by the Egyptians (as well as their ships, that much resemble Viking ones).
    Part of the Philistines became the Phoenicians. Later on most of them went back to Greece and this time conquered it (they were called the “Heraklids”). They brought their culture to Greece, and are at the origins of the Hellenistic Greece.

    The author shows overwhelming evidence to support his thesis, especially archeological one. And seventy years ago, the remains of the principal isle of Atlantis were still visible in the North Sea, and completely matched Plato’s description (it is very precise and detailed). By the way, Helgoland is the only remaining part of Atlantis.

    My personal opinion after reading Spanuth’s books (Das enträtselte Atlantis, Die Philister, Die Rückkehr der Herakliden ; in English there’s also Atlantis – the mistery unraveled), is that old Germans are for sure at the origins of our Western culture.
    I know this won’t please everyone, so I can only encourage the reading of his books, available here (afaik the paper version isn’t available anymore) : https://b-ok.cc/s/spanuth

    And please, stop applying ideology to history. Even if a (in my opinion proven) theory doesn’t seem “politically correct” and/or doesnt fit your ideas,the truth is still the truth.

    • LOL: FB, Hiram of Tyre
    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
    @Bleuazur


    They also created the first alphabet, which later evolved to the Greek one.
     
    Wrong. The first script originated in the original Vinca civilisation in the Balkans in the 6th to 5th millennia BC, from which other alphabets evolved.

    The Danube Script: Neo-Eneolithic Writing in Southeastern Europe
    MUSEUM OF HISTORY, CASA ALTEMBERGER, BRUKENTHAL NATIONAL MUSEUM, SIBU, ROMANIA, May 18-20, 2008.

    https://www.archaeomythology.org/archaeomythological-events/romania-2008/

    https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-f1094fb9c8145c3369b9650da665749d

    Replies: @Bleuazur

    , @antibeast
    @Bleuazur

    This version of the cultures North from Rome being “barbarians” have long ago been debunked. Roman (fake?) writings spread this myth.

    My personal opinion after reading Spanuth’s books (Das enträtselte Atlantis, Die Philister, Die Rückkehr der Herakliden; in English there’s also Atlantis – the mystery unraveled), is that old Germans are for sure at the origins of our Western culture.


     

    Romans: "You Germanics are barbarians!"
    Germanics: "No! We wuz kangz!"
  • @gT
    @Bleuazur

    I read somewhere that the Dead Sea Scrolls held by the Israel Museum in Jerusalem never leave Israel, so no outsider has verified their authenticity.

    Probably if they do leave the museum the Mossad goons keep a close watch to prevent anyone from obtaining a sample for analysis.

    Replies: @Bleuazur

    “I read somewhere that the Dead Sea Scrolls held by the Israel Museum in Jerusalem never leave Israel, so no outsider has verified their authenticity.

    Probably if they do leave the museum the Mossad goons keep a close watch to prevent anyone from obtaining a sample for analysis.”

    Yeah, I suspected indeed something like that.

    • Agree: tiami
    • Replies: @First Millennium Revisionist
    @Bleuazur

    I don't know if the Dead sea scrolls kept in Israel are forgeries. Could very well be. But allready a long time ago, I read Norman Golb's Who wrote the Dead Sea Scrolls and became convinced that, at least, the Essenian hypothesis which was from the very start imposed by the Catholic and Israeli scholars was completly unsubstantiated.

    Replies: @Bleuazur

  • @First Millennium Revisionist
    @jujubean

    Revisionism of Scaligerian chronology is where I'm heading.
    I’ll mention Fomenko at length in my third article, as well as Gunnar Heinsohn, whose hard evidence I find more convincing. If you don't know his work, check his video on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c876lPZ-UZU and his articles on http://www.q-mag.org/gunnar-heinsohns-latest.html

    Replies: @Bleuazur

    I also think history revisionism is something to be done, and I already read several books by Heribert Illig, who is rather convincing in his views. Then there is also Hans-Joachim Zillmer’s book ‘Kolumbus kam als letzter” that contains the idea of the invented Roman empire as well.

    Also following your link about Heinsohn, I read his biography, and to be honest, it doesn’t really build trust on me…
    https://www.q-mag.org/gunnar-heinsohnthe-creation-of-the-gods-sacrifice-as-the-origin-of-religion.html

    • Replies: @First Millennium Revisionist
    @Bleuazur

    I know. But I recommand to ignore his early work, which is totally unconnected to his research from 2011.

  • @Seraphim
    @Bleuazur

    You wouldn't have asked this question had you read the report in its entirety. Never rush to conclusions.

    "The report does not cast doubt upon the authenticity of the Dead Sea Scrolls held by the Israel Museum in Jerusalem. These artifacts are among the most precious relics of the ancient world, first discovered in 1947 in a cave at Qumran, near the shores of the Dead Sea. Dated to around 2,000 years ago, most of the scrolls were written in Hebrew, though some were penned in Aramaic and Greek".

    Replies: @Bleuazur

    I did read it entirely. Also does “not casting doubt about authenticity” really prove they’re authentic? Have they been investigated the same way?

    • Replies: @gT
    @Bleuazur

    I read somewhere that the Dead Sea Scrolls held by the Israel Museum in Jerusalem never leave Israel, so no outsider has verified their authenticity.

    Probably if they do leave the museum the Mossad goons keep a close watch to prevent anyone from obtaining a sample for analysis.

    Replies: @Bleuazur

    , @Seraphim
    @Bleuazur

    In general documents are deemed authentic until proven otherwise. The condition of their discovery do not raise any suspicion.

  • @Truthdefender
    @Alden

    Let's hope all the cadavers from the Justinian plague remain in the ground. We don't need a new pandemic.

    Even if the manuscripts of Tacitus are proved to be forgeries it casts no doubt on the original New Testament documents. Those documents were meticulously hand copied in the very monasteries that allowed the pagan documents to decay.

    The accuracy of the Old Testament manuscripts was conclusively established by the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls. Almost no differences were found between the manuscripts that sat in clay jars in the Qumran Caves for over 2,000 years and modern versions of the same scriptures.

    Replies: @Bleuazur

    • Replies: @Seraphim
    @Bleuazur

    You wouldn't have asked this question had you read the report in its entirety. Never rush to conclusions.

    "The report does not cast doubt upon the authenticity of the Dead Sea Scrolls held by the Israel Museum in Jerusalem. These artifacts are among the most precious relics of the ancient world, first discovered in 1947 in a cave at Qumran, near the shores of the Dead Sea. Dated to around 2,000 years ago, most of the scrolls were written in Hebrew, though some were penned in Aramaic and Greek".

    Replies: @Bleuazur

    , @Kapyong
    @Bleuazur


    "Some of the Dead Sea Scrolls are fake!
    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/all-museum-bibles-dead-sea-scrolls-are-fake-report-finds-180974425/
    So what about the others ???"
     
    The original Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered in those caves in the 1940s and after.

    The fake ones are totally different - they turned up just recently, with unknown provenance, and on rather different, and dubious, leather material. No problem with the earlier ones.

    BTW -
    faithful believers like to claim that the famous Isaiah scroll from the DSS is word-for-word 100% identical with the modern version.

    The facts are rather different - numerous Isaiah scrolls were found : including 1QIsa a, 1QIsa b, 4QIsa a and 4QIsa b. They all differ (all bible MSS differ from each other somewhat.)

    The famous Great Isaiah scroll is 1QIsa a.

    It has over 2600 differences to our modern copy, and is about 95% the same. NOT 100%, not word-for-word identical. Differences include letters, words and whole verses -

    "Strictly speaking, the number of textual variants is well over 2,600, ranging from a single letter, sometimes one or more words, to complete variant verse or verses. For example, the second half of Verse 9 and all of Verse 10 in the present Masoretic version of Chapter 2 are absent from the Great Isaiah Scroll in the Israel Museum's full manuscript that you see here online. The same verses, however, have been included in other versions of the Book of Isaiah in the scrolls found near the Dead Sea (4QIsaa, 4QIsab), and the Hebrew text from which the ancient Greek version or Septuagint (3rd-1st century BCE) was translated. This confirms that these verses, although early enough, were a late addition to the ancient and more original version reflected in the Great Isaiah Scroll."
    http://dss.collections.imj.org.il/isaiah
     
    But we can be sure that faithful believers will continue to repeat the faithful belief that it is 100% identical.

    Kapyong
  • [Excerpted from the latest Radio Derb, now available exclusively through VDARE.com] It is allegedly always darkest before the dawn. Here’s some darkness: the symphony orchestra of Austin, Texas has fired their lead trombonist. This is a white lady named Brenda Sansig Salas, 51 years old and a U.S. Army veteran. Austin Symphony Trombonist Fired Over...
  • @RobbieSmith
    @martin_2

    "What we believe about the salience of race and racial differences, we know, since we have the data and statistics, the evidence of history, everything, to back us up."

    Whites are only 10% of the world's population and the only race in population decline (creating only 7% of the world's babies), yet are the most industrious and innovative race the world has known. Whites unlocked the secrets of DNA and relativity, launched satellites, created automation, discovered electricity and nuclear energy, invented automobiles, aircraft, submarines, radio, television, computers, medicine, telephones, light bulbs, photography, and countless other technological miracles. Whites were the first to circumnavigate the planet by ship, orbit it by spacecraft, walk on the moon, probe beyond the solar system, climb the highest peaks, reach both poles, exceed the sound barrier, descend to the oceans depths... Blacks cannot even feed themselves.

    Whites created every country for Blacks, but now have to provide food, medical, financial, and engineering aid to every one. Blacks cannot survive without White charity.

    No pre-contact Black society ever created a written language, or weaved cloth, or forged steel, or invented the wheel, or plow, or devised a calendar, or code of laws, or system of measurement, or math, or built a multi-story structure, or sewer, or drilled a well, or irrigated, or created any agriculture, or built a road, or sea-worthy vessel. They never domesticated animals, or exploited underground natural resources, or produced anything that could be considered a mechanical device.

    Blacks were still living in the Stone Age when Whites discovered them just 400 years ago.

    Blacks are the oldest race, so they should be the most advanced — but they never advanced at all. Sub-Saharan Africans never made any contribution to the world. Everything they have was given to them by Whites. Blacks lived alone in Africa, a vast continent with temperate climates and abundant resources for 60,000 years so they cannot blame slavery, racism, colonialism, culture, environment, or anything else for their failures.

    Replies: @mark tapley, @bruce county, @Hartnell, @Bleuazur

    I’m just reading a book (‘Black Genesis’ by R. Bauval & P. Brophy) that proves the ancient Egyptians were black Africans. They emerged from an already evolved Saharian neolithic people. So no, I don’t agree with you, Africa also brought in civilization! For instance, all first maths came from the Egyptians, the Greeks only learnt the whole thing from them.

    And frankly, yeah, whites created much stuff, but did that really improve the world and make humans happier??? For example, I’m quite sure the celts (before they were genocided by the catholic church) and their pagan-animistic religion had rather good lives (btw, one of the big jewish fears is the Europeans get back to paganism… I’d say that is a very interesting info!).

    That be said, I agree Whites and Blacks are different. If the former live in Europe and the latter in Africa, I guess there’s a reason for that.

    Also that doesn’t mean I don’t get what’s really happening with that BLM crap.

    • Replies: @Bombercommand
    @Bleuazur

    "Black Ancient Egypt" is a crock. You have been misled by Bauval&Brophy. If you want to debate the issue with me, go ahead, but be forewarned, you are walking into an ambush.

    Replies: @RobbieSmith