RSSIt is true that Russian nationalists have a motivation to downgrade the status of Ukrainian, but it is also true that Ukrainian nationalists have an incentive to upgrade the status of Ukrainian.
You hear this from Russian nationalists, who are motivated to lie. Ukrainian is about as distant from Russian as Dutch is from German. Norwegian is closer to Swedish than Ukrainian is to Russian.
To a non-Slavic speaker, the harshness of Russian can be an asset especially considering the stereotypical national character of Russians. Thus Russian hard rock music for instance often has a kind of violent glamor that is attractive.
Ukrainian language sounds a lot nicer than does Russian. Smoother, more melodic. It makes for more beautiful folk songs. Russian sounds rougher, harsher and vulgar.
It is often claimed that a major reason that European civilization overtook Chinese is because political disunity within Europe resulted in endemic warfare which drove innovation. This thesis is probably exaggerated, but none the less it reflects positively on the concept you've introduced.
This is just lazy. Diversity and beauty are good things. And necessary. Lack of genetic diversity can lead to extinction of a species, this is probably true of cultures also. If the Germanic peoples had been reduced to only one (say, the Visigoths in 400 AD) would that one had achieved what the others collectively would? It is always good to have a reserve of peoples.
I'm highly skeptical of this claim. Ukraine has almost no history of statehood by which this could be assessed. During the '90s Ukraine and Russia had similar trajectories of state disintegration and oligarch capture, but then followed different trajectories. This might be down to pure luck rather than any essential differences.
Plus, politically Ukrainian culture clashes with Russian. Russians are politically an Asiatic people. I do not mean this in a pejorative sense, China and Singapore work fine. But Europeans shouldn’t live under a system that is unnatural for them. That is perversity. Only a pervert would want Europeans such as Poles or Ukrainians to live under a Eurasian despot. Ukrainians belong alongside Poles and other Visegrad peoples.
If the Visegrad peoples formed a geopolitically independent project distinct from either the West or Russia, I would be highly inclined to support it. But this is not the case, and I’m pessimistic on the prospects of the so-called “populist” regimes in this region to survive Western pressure and subversion.
Just to add a bit to this last point. Visegrad+/”Intermarium” has an Iran sized population, which is in principle sustainable, but is in practice fully enmeshed within the Western noosphere (e.g. no Big Tech ecosystem of their own) and economically dependent on it (those no LGBT zone mayors in Poland reverse their positions rather rapidly whenever the EU threatens their gibs). That is without going into the numerous historical issues between them that puts the stability of the project under question, e.g. Hungary’s relatively uncooperative stance on Russia, understandable in light of Ukraine’s treatment of its Hungarian minority.
Energy independent, noospherically self-contained, politically unitary 180M Great Russia seems to have better prospects as a sustainable civilizational pole than a hypothetical 90M Intermarium.
Poland since it identifies with the West is free to try its luck influencing its course, I’m quite skeptical about its chances of success, but still probably more productive that trying to provoke a war that could take all the main European civilizational poles bar Latin America out of the game. Happily the Americans have an actual strategic culture in contrast to histrionic, senile/infantile Europeans and are merely paying lip service to these Polish games.
Most of the world is economically interdependent. And the West is not monolithically lost. Visegrad/Intermarium can find a partner in Italy, for example when fighting within the West for the West's direction. That's 90 million plus 60 million.
Just to add a bit to this last point. Visegrad+/”Intermarium” has an Iran sized population, which is in principle sustainable, but is in practice fully enmeshed within the Western noosphere (e.g. no Big Tech ecosystem of their own) and economically dependent on it (those no LGBT zone mayors in Poland reverse their positions rather rapidly whenever the EU threatens their gibs).
Poland alone won't be able to do it. Poland in partnership with 30 million Ukrainians, millions of Balts, Czechs, Slovaks etc. OTOH have a chance. 90-100 million people have much better prospects than only 40.
Poland since it identifies with the West is free to try its luck influencing its course, I’m quite skeptical about its chances of success
Russia with Ukraine wouldn't really be 180 million politically unitary but 144 million trying to keep 25-30 million down, incurring casualties while doing so. In 1921 Poles thought they had "won" and increased their state's population by conquering annexing 4.5 million furious Ukrainians. That made their state less strong, not more strong, and those people never became Poles as had been hoped.Replies: @216, @Coconuts
Energy independent, noospherically self-contained, politically unitary 180M Great Russia
It's difficult to see how this war, even if succesful, is going to be a civilizational game changer for Russia. How many Ukrainians are going to be integrated into Russia? Western Ukraine seemed unlikely even before the start of the war. Suppose Russia takes the rest of Ukraine (which seems increasingly dubious, too). Many Ukrainian refugees, among them lots of young women and children, will not be willing to return to a Ukraine controlled by a sanctioned Russia but instead stay in the West.
Energy independent, noospherically self-contained, politically unitary 180M Great Russia seems to have better prospects as a sustainable civilizational pole than a hypothetical 90M Intermarium.
My general heuristic is that if your country doesn't appear in the Civilization video games (pre-DLC), then most likely it would be best to put it out of its misery…
— Anatoly Karlin (🅉,🅉) (@akarlin0) November 2, 2020
Australia might as well be England with a better climate. Depending on how you want to date it Australia wasn’t even sovereign until 1986.
There’s a lot more of a distance between America and Great Britain, but if hypothetically the UK had a “based and redpilled” government that was seeking to reassert sovereignty over the USA, the right choice would be to drop the stars and stripes for the union jack. I don’t think driving on the wrong side of the road and sipping tea would be the end of the world if it meant a restoration of sanity.
And of course you didn’t bring up New Zealand or Canada, which are much better equivalents to the Ukraine in terms of fakeness.
The basic problem is that fundamentally the Ukrainians are fighting for the “right” to be objectively wrong. Or more precisely, for the right to join the GAE (Gay American Empire). The only way in which this wouldn’t be true is if the Ukrainian hard right has some kind of secret yet credible plan to seize the Ukrainian state after somehow kicking the Russians out.
Returning to your original point, what exactly makes the Ukraine a nation? To just about everyone outside of Ukraine itself, no one can figure out what distinguishes Ukrainians from Russians. I’m not a Slavic language speaker, but I frequently hear about Ukrainian simply being a dialect of Russian or at least mutually intelligible. It should also be pointed out that English-language transliterations of Ukrainian words consistently look much worse than their Russian equivalents, and this is now ruining maps all over the world. Just from the standpoint of not wanting to ever see the cringe term “Kyiv” again one should avoid supporting the Ukrainians.
Now, it’s true that any LARP sustained long enough eventually becomes real. The Netherlands for instance was once German, and there’s even a parallel there with how Dutch consistently looks and sounds worse than German. So an independent Ukraine could, over time, become a real country. But to what end? Do we really need another mediocre Slavic country? It reminds me of Latin America, where you have dozens of barely distinguishable nonentity countries serving no real purpose. The entire region should be consolidated into maybe five states at most. Russia, Poland, and Serbia are the only Slavic states needed by the world.
The most “natural” way to organize states is around nationality, especially since the rise of mass communication. Where a state departs from this, it should be to realize some kind of interesting, cool, and distinct concept. Switzerland for instance is a confederation made up of pieces of three other nations, but the Swiss have created a highly interesting and distinct polity based on extreme decentralization, direct democracy, neutrality, and universal militia. For Switzerland to disappear would impoverish the world. But what is the objective in Ukraine? It is to become just another gay western democracy.
AP has the take that Visegrad shows the way. Integrating with the West to enjoy its security guarantees and material benefits, but developing your own civilization instead of destroying it. Press X for doubt. Viktor Orban might go down in the next election, and Polish conservatives appear to be doubling down on all of the dumbest mistakes of American Republicans.
So at the end of the day the Ukraine is fighting for the right to be objectively wrong, whereas Russia might be fighting to (re)establish a distinct civilizational space.
Note that none of this indicates that Russia made a wise decision (too soon to say), nor do I wish to denigrate current Ukrainian resistance. Most people do not choose their beliefs anymore than they choose where they were born, and in the event of an invasion the natural response is to fight. Even assuming that some Ukrainians were able to reach correct conclusions about the many reasons why their country should not exist, it would be very personally unwise for them to share these opinions or act on them at this time.
Depending on how you want to date it Australia wasn’t even sovereign until 1986.
You hear this from Russian nationalists, who are motivated to lie. Ukrainian is about as distant from Russian as Dutch is from German. Norwegian is closer to Swedish than Ukrainian is to Russian.
I’m not a Slavic language speaker, but I frequently hear about Ukrainian simply being a dialect of Russian or at least mutually intelligible.
Ukrainian language sounds a lot nicer than does Russian. Smoother, more melodic. It makes for more beautiful folk songs. Russian sounds rougher, harsher and vulgar.
It should also be pointed out that English-language transliterations of Ukrainian words consistently look much worse than their Russian equivalents
This is just lazy. Diversity and beauty are good things. And necessary. Lack of genetic diversity can lead to extinction of a species, this is probably true of cultures also. If the Germanic peoples had been reduced to only one (say, the Visigoths in 400 AD) would that one had achieved what the others collectively would? It is always good to have a reserve of peoples.
Russia, Poland, and Serbia are the only Slavic states needed by the world.
China is ruled by the CCP. So, only what the CCP thinks, is relevant for international relations.
Xinhua is bland CCP
That's just how it is. It's more in the opposite of dislike, African American culture is a fashionable one. It's not the same as saying that African culture is fashionable. Third world culture is not fashionable. We're talking about African American, Tupac, Jazz, Will Smith, etc. Not, Africa - Somalia, Senegal, Ethiopia, etc.
Russian culture, there is no dislike of African Americans.”
Yes I can paraphrase Russian resources if you asked politely. Translation software often reverses the meaning in sentences, so I would avoid it, unless you would just want to understand the general theme or topic.
you to translate from Russian when there are perfectly good software available? Show some etiquette
I'm sure that there is nothing especially better or worse, to be white, or brown, or yellow, or black. I don't dislike that a person is "not white enough". My views are anti-racist. Hopefully nothing is misunderstood. I'm not criticizing Karlin for his ethnicity. I am personally anti-racist and against narrow categorization of people on superficial aspects of their life. The funny thing about Karlin's ethnicity/Middle Eastern appearance, is only when he says he is a Russian nationalist, apparently as a Dada performance art. It is the "Black klansman" joke of David Chapelle. The primary focus of Russian nationalists is hatred of people of his racial appearance, with desire to beat them (or even kill them, as seen in many videos of the 2000s, which have traumatized a generation). It's similar to the local version of "white nationalism" movements in the USA, but a lot more violent and quite dispersed over the country for a time.
, gossip some more about how Karlin is “not white enough”.
Yes of course Georgian elite, is contributing many princes and elites in joining to the Russian Empire. Although, there is always tension with the Georgian nobility in the 19th century. In the long term, one of the regions where you can see a car crash of imperialism (and not only of Russian imperialism).Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
Operation Bagration was named after the hero of Battle of Borodino who was a Caucasian.
The only type of Russian (pseudo-)nationalist who might potentially have an issue with someone being 30% non-Slavic:
Important point, Western wignats, Poles, Balts, & ethnic grievance activists like Kamil Galeev love to talk about how Putin is repressing/imprisoning "genuine" Russian nationalists, well who are they in their eyes, aspiring terrorist cells whose leadership is partly in Ukraine.
— Anatoly Karlin (🅉,🅉) (@akarlin0) March 21, 2022
Happily many of these scum are currently being “utilized” in Ukraine.
Main protagonist of future Hollywood blockbuster "Escape from Mariupol." https://t.co/snsHnNexXo
— Anatoly Karlin (🅉,🅉) (@akarlin0) March 21, 2022
So how is the China ukrocope going these days?
Can you help me fight your friend so that I can concentrate on fighting you later?
— CGTN LIU Xin 刘欣 (@LiuXininBeijing) March 19, 2022
Shock and disbelief.
It is rather curious that increasing numbers of commenters, including even Thulean Fraud, are coming around to my assessment, which I consistently made since the very beginning of the conflict, that all negotiations are a charade.
https://twitter.com/search?q=from%3Aakarlin0%20charade&src=typed_query&f=live
Granted, they will never acknowledge this, but that is fine.
This is one of the reasons why I have mixed feelings about all of this pro-Ukrainian sentiment in the west.
The charity he set up frankly has genocidal goals about the Irish people.
I agree with it. A Russia hypothetically defeated by Ukraine will be proven to be a very weak nation, and one that that would not deserve to be long for this world (indeed, the combination of denuclearization and NATO alignment has some chance of realizing the otherwise fantastical neocon scenario of the Chinese taking back Outer Manchuria, which would be perfectly fine by me, because they would likely make better use of those territories and resources while denying them to the Western Supremacy).
That last part has more than a whiff of Hitler railing against the Germans as a people unworthy of victory (and presumably his genius leadership) as the Soviets closed in on Berlin.
A Russia hypothetically defeated by Ukraine will be proven to be a very weak nation, and one that that would not deserve to be long for this world
That's a head-scratcher. Russia was defeated by Poland and Finland. It happens. Heck, it was defeated by Afghanistan, joining a select group of foreign powers that found this particular wasteland not worth the candle. The idea that Russia doesn't deserve to exist as a nation because it is defeated in battle is mind-boggling. We need Russia to remain a unitary nation, if only to ward off the possibility of China tripling in territorial extent, by acquiring the Russian Far East and the stans. China's gulags for Uighurs are a dry run for what will probably happen when it acquires the Muslim nations on its border.
A Russia hypothetically defeated by Ukraine will be proven to be a very weak nation, and one that that would not deserve to be long for this world
It seems emigration has spread from professionals to the smaller members of government.
First search result on Milonov/Armenia: https://govoritmoskva.ru/news/308306/
«Для меня Армения — это родное место. Я был в Армении не только в какие-то тяжёлые времена для России, в тяжёлые времена для Армении я тоже там бываю, и во время Карабахской войны был. В Армении я чувствую себя абсолютно дома.
Всё-таки мой прадедушка был судьёй в городе Ереване во время государя императора, мои сёстры там живут и мои друзья-депутаты. У меня даже помощник есть официальный, который сейчас живёт в Ереване и занимается гуманитарными исследованиями. В Армении всё хорошо. И те россияне, которые сейчас прибывают в Армению по различным обстоятельствам, я не говорю сейчас какие, они разные бывают, в их случае я говорю, чтобы наши армянские партнёры помогали этим людям. Чтобы для людей, которые какое-то время хотят побыть в Ереване, были условия нормальные, никто не обманывал, чтобы было комфортно. Я сам уже в России».
You should probably spend less time parroting whatever’s on his svidomist social media feed, and like Dmitry, focus more on your core competencies, such as projecting your own presumed urges onto your online interlocutors.
He has sent an application to complain to the authorities, that he is being discriminated under Chapter 2 of the constitution, because of use of Oriental and African models in the advertising by the brand Nike. Lawyers say he will 100% not win. While you write that the authorities are the one who is choosing to open the investigation, i.e. that the authorities are complaining, while in reality he is complaining to the authorities. You reversed the story for some reason. https://twitter.com/akarlin0/status/1493177927390871553
made no comment on the likelihood of him winning, but the mere fact that the complaint
Not really, if you write the forms correctly, they have to accept the application by law. This is your right in the constitution law. It is what taxpayer pays for.
mere fact that the complaint was accepted and the complainant in question was not defenestrated by the media and activists (as would happen in any Western country) is telling alone.
If it was publicized in their country, Chinese and African governments would be sensitive if their nationality was removed from advertising in Russia, as it would be bad public relations. Imagine how they would report this in South Africa, which is one of the more supportive countries for the Russian government. These countries' sensitivities, were partly how the Soviet Union was able to build strong relations with the third world countries, in contrast to Western bloc, during the second half of the 20th century. Fruit of this investment in these relations have still continued to some extent today and we saw that with the voting in relation to Ukraine invasion in the UN last month. If you would read books or learn about the 20th century history, then your posts could be more interesting than being only clickbait or Dada performance art. I'm not the right person to recommend about history. But there are people here like Yevardian and German Reader who are educated people and could probably give recommendations .Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
only people on the planet this will offend are Eurofags and Amerimutts, not any actual humans.
Indeed, I might conceivably consult you for advice on box unpacking methods, Nike shoe shopping, and stalking the children of famous people on Instagram and Facebook. Your primary and indeed only areas of competency.
It’s accurate, at a global level, it is overwhelmingly Whitoids who hate Russia, POCs either support Russia or doesn’t care.
Observation from a chat I'm in: Whites are by far the most Russia-hostile demographic on the planet. https://t.co/znpvVVqJXH pic.twitter.com/X86yeAWRQX
— Anatoly Karlin (🅉,🅉) (@akarlin0) March 1, 2022
That may actually be starting to have an effect in woke circles.
it is overwhelmingly Whitoids who hate Russia, POCs either support Russia or doesn’t care.
Well said. Shock and disbelief indeed. This is a racial holy war against Western Supremacy.
Chinese media instructed to cover Russia positively and avoid pro-Western framing. https://t.co/tuD41nBXGK
"In the future, China will also need Russia's understanding and support when wrestling with America to solve the Taiwan issue once and for all."
— Anatoly Karlin (🅉,🅉) (@akarlin0) February 23, 2022
The US has 336 labs in 30 countries under its control, including 26 in Ukraine alone. It should give a full account of its biological military activities at home and abroad and subject itself to multilateral verification. pic.twitter.com/vEiytBRKuo
— Spokesperson发言人办公室 (@MFA_China) March 8, 2022
Meanwhile China openly supports the Russian Invasion in their classrooms. pic.twitter.com/07xo0tS5eC
— TheUnquirer (@unquirer) March 16, 2022
LOL
99% chance this is just the latest fake and gay Ukrainian psy-op.
https://theprint.in/world/chinas-foreign-ministry-endorses-envoys-comments-on-ukraine-talks-of-political-settlement/877736/
Asked about Fan’s comments at a news conference Thursday, Foreign Ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian said: “China surely supports these remarks by our ambassador in Ukraine. China supports all efforts that are conducive to easing the situation and for a political settlement.”
The West eventually will impose the no-fly zone but it will be up to Russia to escalate.
Бабахнем.
Remember what Putin said: We (Russians) will go to Heaven, but you will not even have time to repent.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/biden-speak-chinas-xi-friday-ukraineReplies: @A123, @Anatoly Karlin, @songbird
China on Thursday has "affirmed" its "friendship" with Ukraine, vowing to never attack, according to Bloomberg:
Ambassador Fan Xianrong had told Lviv Governor Maksym Kozytskyi during a meeting Monday that China was a “friendly country for the Ukrainian people” and would “never attack Ukraine,” according to a summary posted on the Lviv government’s website. He went on to praise the strength and unity demonstrated by the Ukrainian people, in an apparent reference to their efforts to resist Russia’s ongoing invasion.
99% chance this is just the latest fake and gay Ukrainian psy-op.
Americans spent 7 hours trying to browbeat China into stopping its support for Russia the other day, the Chinese sent the burgers packing.
Literally all the China FUD to date from you and AP has been proven false.
Glory to Russia! Glory to China!
Your odious posts are literally quoted with approval on incel and manospere blogs.Replies: @Official AK biographer, @Asi.
Karlin's controversial views on rape are nonsurprisingly shared by incels and his writings are quoted by incel, MRM and manosphere bloggers.[112]He has been described as an "original incel theorist".
A man was complaining to the authorities, that there are too many Oriental and African models used in Nike adverts in Russia. He is claiming the adverts will violate section 1, chapter 2, in the Russian constitution, against discrimination on ” rights of citizens on social, racial, national, linguistic or religious grounds”, as most of the population in Russia are not Oriental or African.Karlin has misreported this story, claiming that the authorities themselves are complaining about the use of the Oriental and African models in Nike adverts. When the story is about a man complaining to the authorities, and the article predict he will “100% lose”.I’m not sure why Karlin is reversing the storyAs GR pointed out, he's basically just a propagandist at this point and he has spent years trying to convince people of "Based Russia". So outright lying/spinning stories to fit the narrative is not something that's beyond Karlin, as your comment demonstrates. That's also why I depreciate everything he says about Russia, because he has a proven track record of being willing to bend the truth to push narratives. Or outright deleting comments in the case of UKR/RUS war, as we've seen. Personally, I don't find it very worthwhile trying to convince people your country is the most regressive and backwards on the planet, but it's even more hilarious when it's far from true. Your comments over the years have made that abundantly clear, and have indirectly undercut Karlin's narrative. That is likely one of the reasons why he resents you. He doesn't like it when someone factchecks him on his wild tales. What's even more hilarious is given his own substantial non-European ancestry, it's not even in his interest to push for a superchud version of Russia. As you've pointed out many times, if a true nationalist takeover really happens then folks like him will be a soft target.Replies: @sher singh, @Yevardian, @Dmitry, @Anatoly Karlin
Get hit by a bus.
https://thetab.com/us/uc-berkeley/2016/05/07/white-supremacists-1133Replies: @In Lulz we Trust
Richard Spencer on the left, accompanied by 3 fellow supporters of white nationalism
The article in question is literally titled “Investigative Committee will check Nike due to the lack of white models on the Russian-language website.” https://ruposters.ru/news/14-02-2022/proverit-izza-otsutstviya-belih-modelei
I made no comment on the likelihood of him winning, but the mere fact that the complaint was accepted and the complainant in question was not defenestrated by the media and activists (as would happen in any Western country) is telling alone.
… but of course, those are geopolitically exactly the two nationalities that the authorities in Russia, will be careful to not offend sensitivities nowadays – Oriental and African nationalities.
Literally the only people on the planet this will offend are Eurofags and Amerimutts, not any actual humans. Go watch and review more unboxing videos, they are your appropriate level of discourse.
He has sent an application to complain to the authorities, that he is being discriminated under Chapter 2 of the constitution, because of use of Oriental and African models in the advertising by the brand Nike. Lawyers say he will 100% not win. While you write that the authorities are the one who is choosing to open the investigation, i.e. that the authorities are complaining, while in reality he is complaining to the authorities. You reversed the story for some reason. https://twitter.com/akarlin0/status/1493177927390871553
made no comment on the likelihood of him winning, but the mere fact that the complaint
Not really, if you write the forms correctly, they have to accept the application by law. This is your right in the constitution law. It is what taxpayer pays for.
mere fact that the complaint was accepted and the complainant in question was not defenestrated by the media and activists (as would happen in any Western country) is telling alone.
If it was publicized in their country, Chinese and African governments would be sensitive if their nationality was removed from advertising in Russia, as it would be bad public relations. Imagine how they would report this in South Africa, which is one of the more supportive countries for the Russian government. These countries' sensitivities, were partly how the Soviet Union was able to build strong relations with the third world countries, in contrast to Western bloc, during the second half of the 20th century. Fruit of this investment in these relations have still continued to some extent today and we saw that with the voting in relation to Ukraine invasion in the UN last month. If you would read books or learn about the 20th century history, then your posts could be more interesting than being only clickbait or Dada performance art. I'm not the right person to recommend about history. But there are people here like Yevardian and German Reader who are educated people and could probably give recommendations .Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
only people on the planet this will offend are Eurofags and Amerimutts, not any actual humans.
I haven’t had access to the ban list for ages, but I would be open to Ron Unz simply deleting it.
Dmitry is long in shock and disbelief, his entire world is crumbling all around him.
Meanwhile, Russia opens investigation against Nike for using exclusively non-White models to advertise its wares (in Russia).
Distancing from the West bearing fruit. https://t.co/BJUC6COM1X
— Anatoly Karlin (🅉,🅉) (@akarlin0) February 14, 2022
It's not "Russia stands for", but what is one of the politically correct narratives allowed by the government. Everything is just "top-down", i.e. from a few people's decisions. This is about pro-government narratives.
Russia now stands for
In Soviet times, there was a ideology, for the imperialism (Marxism–Leninism is self-interested trash i.e. ideology, unlike real Marxism which aspired for philosophy), whereas today there is only the dream of Timati opening a Black Star Burger in your home city after shelling has ended. But in most of history, there is no need for ideology to justify a conquest. Rather, conquest is a result of violence and you can invent some excuse after, and people can call your excuse ideology, while you are really appropriating the resources and slaves from the conquered land. I'm not even sure the British Empire has much of an ideology during most of its early expansion. Ideology about British imperialism, seems more an aspect of the second half of the 19th century.
cosmic vision” that is emerging to justify Russian imperialism.
Lol your interest from New age, Madame Blavatsky, etc.
ssian Cosmism
But if the population are excited to have a washing machine, a new car, a refrigerator. This is the historical stage of China. Their population is enjoying rising to the middle income countries, unlike in the 20th century when they experienced poverty and political repressions. in China, there is also perhaps some indication their political class can be going in the postsoviet way of attaining and needing to hide larger profits than should be official allowed within the society. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZs2i3Bpxx4Replies: @sher singh
modern China by reference to it’s traditional
Since Russia are about to ban VPNs, it seems that the final layer of the Putin Shroud is going into place.
Still waiting for martial law to be imposed:
So where is the martial law Ukrainians and Western journalists have been promising Russians for today?
— Anatoly Karlin (🅉,🅉) (@akarlin0) March 4, 2022
Still waiting for the “Great Kremlin Firewall”:
❗️Russia will be cut off from global Internet from March 11, according to Market Rebellion. It's been heavily rumoured as part of martial law.
👉 Only servers and websites in Russia will be available to Russians. This 'Great Kremlin Firewall' was tested back 2019.
— Jason Corcoran (@jason_corcoran) March 7, 2022
Like it or not, but what is actually going to happen is that Russia is going to return its rightful demesnes and build a great space-faring Empire, in civilizational harmony with India and the Celestial Empire.
Meanwhile, Western Supremacists will stew in their cesspit of BLM and the 69 genders, papering over their failures with impotent Russophobia and Sinophobia, for at least the rest of this century, a fitting punishment for their innumerable sins.
space-faring Empire? Like a space empire with extraterrestrial colonies? I think you have to admit that this part at least comes close to trolling.
a great space-faring Empire
Your obituary is mis-focused.
Western Supremacists will stew in their cesspit of BLM and the 69 genders, papering over their failures with impotent Russophobia and Sinophobia, for at least the rest of this century, a fitting punishment for their innumerable sins.
Please don’t lie. The Discord is free, Substack is not my employer, and my relations with Ron are perfectly fine so far as I’m aware.
While somewhat appreciated, I have no need for your well-wishes, save them for those who need them.
As I keep saying, shock and disbelief: https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/367103075
What exactly about did I lie? I did not mean that Substack was literally your new employer. Rather I wrote of my impression of your recent comments - that, allegorically, it appears now that you have paying customers at Substack (who are presumably more "loyal" to you and more sympathetic to your views), you seem to describe your old audience left at Unz in the most uncharitable and disdainful terms, even though this old audience contributed to the rise in your profile and perhaps even enabled your move to other platforms. After all, even the most vituperative critic of yours on Unz helped you build readership and influence.Perhaps I am incorrect in my impression, but it is not a lie. I have no desire to have any kind of silly online feud with you, so kindly direct such accusations elsewhere.
Please don’t lie. The Discord is free, Substack is not my employer
My well-wishes were graciously given. Pity it was not graciously accepted.
While somewhat appreciated, I have no need for your well-wishes, save them for those who need them.
No doubt many people, commenters here included, will be dismayed by their desired outcomes not coming to fruition in the future. Only the most arrogant and deluded, however, would exempt themselves from the prospect that such might occur to them too (I am reminded of the Melian Dialogue).
As I keep saying, shock and disbelief
I don't know what that is and what it's supposed to prove.
https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/367103075
A haven for unwashed NEETs, teenage gamers, trannies, glowies and schizos. I'll pass.
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My mistake not to have kept you banned after your inexcusable smears about me in relation to a certain film review. Yet another demonstration of how no good deed (forgiveness in this case) ever goes unpunished.
But also a vindication of my decision to distance myself from this absolute viper’s den.
American prostitute dickhead from Stalingrad ( “Vilnius” is not the name now for that average city. I have renamed it after the man who, generously, gave it to Lithuanian prostitutes)…….. will you answer my point?
Because your worthless POS country, with the capital city of Stalingrad, staged a false flag that lead to closing of EU flights to Belarus, restrictions on Belavia and other sanctions…….. Lukashenko was motivated to be able to give Russia an extra point of attack through their own border, one which if it didnt exist then Operation Z certainly wouldn’t have happened.
I realise you have no free media in Lithuania and too many dumb, suicidal and alcoholic imbeciles to question the unexplained actions of Stalingrad ATC, transcripts or ANY interest in what the pilots had to say……. but this is quite an important issue for a population like yours to be willfully retarded on.
All the same Luka has been very cautious (or rather, Putin has be careful not to embarrass him), although as Dmitri pointed out, the Belarusian army has zero combat experience.
Lukashenko was motivated to be able to give Russia an extra point of attack through their own border, one which if it didnt exist then Operation Z certainly wouldn’t have happened.
Well, he's lived outside of Russia for a very long time, and apparently has absolutely zero desire to return (as you don't either?), for understandable reasons. It's clear enough he was horrified and blindsided by the outbreak of kinetic war, as any sensible person would be, but doesn't care much for the Ukrainian kakistocracy either. I also don't really see any winners in this. @Generalfeldmarschall von Hindenburg
Unclear his patriot-level, but even “neutral” level is a huge improvement on the deluge of cretinism that anglo/western audiences are being brainwashed with.
Based retard.Replies: @sher singh, @Dmitry, @Yellowface Anon
Here’s something scoffers are trying to sort out: Why did Putin play along with the COVID scam? IF he’s such a rebel and enemy of the WEF total control scheme, why did he never question it until now and only in the context of what really amounts to an intra-Russo-Slavic civil war?
In August of 1945, after Hiroshima, Soviet entry and Nagasaki, the slogan of the IJA hawks remained:
5,000 deaths or 15,000 deaths or even 100,000 deaths is a modest price to pay for resolving this question sooner rather later.
Leader of the hawks was Anami Korechika 阿南 惟幾. Until Hirohito intervenes on the part of the Doves. A coup by young hothead Army officers starts, to kill the Doves and kidnap Hirohito.
The sooner the Americans come the better, one hundred million shattered jewel.
一億玉砕 Ichi oku gyokusai
*神州 (c: shénzhōu, j: shinshū) Deital Land is a poetic term used to refer to Japan. It’s borrowed from hanzi and used also to refer to China.
一死以て大罪を謝し奉る 神州不滅を確信しつつ
I—with my death—humbly apologize to the Emperor for the great crime. While convinced that Shinshū* is immortal.
The Russian Army doesn’t need and isn’t accepting new recruits. The special military operation is fought by the 0.2% subset of the Russian population that wants to be there, is paid well above average salaries to be there, and has spent years training for such scenarios. It is the Ukrainians who are fighting like sovoks, press-ganging men off the streets.
I couldn’t care less for your respect and support, so kindly shove them along with your lectures back where they came from.
imo a lot of Karlin's recent statements are verging on caricature, like a recycling of the dumbest talking points of early 20th century nationalists. Sure, it's possible Russia will succeed in her current enterprise, maybe everything will work out to Karlin's satisfaction and lead to a glorious rebirth of the Russian empire. But still..."national rejuvenation through war", lol, what could possibly go wrong with such an approach, not like it's ever been tried before. I don't think one has to categorically reject nationalism in its entirety to be irritated by this kind of all-or-nothing risk-taking (and its implication that Russia is worthless if the present war doesn't lead to a glorious future).
Now, unless you can come up with some categorical denunciation of nationalism, one that applies to me, you and AK, then your attacks on AK are mere partisanship on your part.
It’s not a legitimate question, it’s a moronic and bad faith one. About 70% of Russians support the special military operation, but only about 0.2% of them are participating in it. Why don’t you go round asking the other 69.8% the same thing? The 0.2% that are fighting are people who want to be there, who are paid well above average Russian salaries to be there (funded by taxes collected from the 69.8%), and who have specifically trained for years for scenarios like this.
It’s also very curious (and telling) how all these newly sprouted pacifists only seem to be piping up now and now in any of the previous 8 years when the Ukrainians were bombarding Donbass.
I'm not a pacifist, but imo this is mostly propaganda. Number of civilian deaths in Donbass has declined strongly in recent years, and even if one thinks Russia needed to act against possible Ukrainian designs for reconquest and incorporate Donbass, the current operation seems over the top. The maximalist aims you're advocating (annexing most of Ukraine) certainly are.
It’s also very curious (and telling) how all these newly sprouted pacifists only seem to be piping up now and now in any of the previous 8 years when the Ukrainians were bombarding Donbass.
That kind of sentiment is absurdly at odds with the militant stuff you've been posting about how the war will lead to national rejuvenation and joy. If it's such a great enterprise where people can transcend their bugman lives, the number of participants should be maximized.
The 0.2% that are fighting are people who want to be there, who are paid well above average Russian salaries to be there (funded by taxes collected from the 69.8%), and who have specifically trained for years for scenarios like this.
Hey, Anatoly! Best point on the 'thread', or whatever this thing is now. No one was paying attention the past eight years in the Donbass. Those lives had no value? Indeed, where were the pacifists? There ARE no pacifists. Those are crocodile tears and shills picking at Russia's hide. Since they didn't give voice to the Donbass, I accord them no voice now.
It’s also very curious (and telling) how all these newly sprouted pacifists only seem to be piping up now and now in any of the previous 8 years when the Ukrainians were bombarding Donbass.
Free speech is good and I commend Ron Unz, but on the other hand I also understand Anatoly – it’s really tiresome reading Ukrainians on the internet. Or pro-EU/NATO Nazis – the most pathetic existence I can imagine.
If they refuse to self-moderate, they should be compelled to curb their retardation via military-technical means.
The moderation of Ukraine will be completed soon.
But as unfortunately most of the Ukrainian commenters here post from the US all day instead of doing anything productive, I think surgical nuclear strikes on known locations of Ukrainian posters in the continental United States are in order.
What do you even know about Orthodox Christianity?
Hint: it’s not about being a gay nigger as you probably imagine.
Instead of reading and citing such tripe, it would be better just google the year when Zelensky was elected as a president of Ukraine, lolThe hint - it was not in 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017 or 2018.Replies: @A123, @Gerard1234
overthrow of Ukraine’s government in 2014 and the installment of its current leader, a former comedic actor named Volodymyr Zelenskyy
Ukraine does not have actual elections you despicable retard. Didn’t shithole Lithuania have effectively an unconstitutional coup, with the (sane) President replaced by some USAID Nazi excrement?
Anyway, you do realise, idiot, that Operation Z, as beautiful as it is, would never have happened without Lukashenko’s assistance……and he only allowed assistance via Belarus border, because Belarus flights and airlines were banned by Gayropa a year before.
Why? Because dying, alcoholic, suicide retard Litva staged a false flag provocation making a flight carrying a Belarus dissident liberast cretin on a plane from Athens to Vilnius, get diverted to land in Minsk where he was immediately arrested.
Absolutely zero logical explanation for Vilnius ATC actions, transcripts for them or Pilot or ANY statement by the pilot in public after.
Glad to help and also glad that this approach seems satisfactory to almost everyone.
The space for open discourse is narrowing everywhere, so we must cherish the few places where actual free speech still exists. This is one of them.
Ron Unz,
You should be totally ashamed of yourself. Karlin (NYT-listed writer) should not have his methods infringed on like this.
Ukraine or Ukrainianism is solely a Deathcult. Nothing else .
By definition there is nothing “pro-ukrainan” to be censored, because “supporting” something by willing it to deathcult itself out of existence, and be “proud” of its history – as a constant, loser deathcult – is oxymoronic. So Karlin is not doing any censorship.
Ukraine is a fake, failed state created by Lenin and Stalin – its 2 historic “enemies” who they blame for everything
It has a fake moronic National Orthodox church……..created by Americans and Catholics
As a retard, it views itself as a “victim” of Russian “imperialism” – an idiotic nonsensical statement because 404 is a gift receiver FROM Russia of about EIGHT different sections of land fron SIX different countries that they did not ask, fight or even lobby for. Its as artificial as a botched Michael Jackson facelift
Its freakshow “ideology” is taken from the west of the fake country – even though Galicia has absolutely ZERO connection to “Ukrainian” architecture, cuisine, folksongs, dances, clothing, Dnieper, Black sea coast, Zaporozhian Cossacks or anything
In light of this and much more, plus the idioticly high amount of fakes by ukrops/CIA /MI6 of military “peremoga” these last 2 weeks, and that there is basically no English-language pro-ukraine, or galician-reject blogger on the Internet, exactly because they know they would have to do mass censorship because of the ease it is to disintegrate their BS…….. should give special allowance to (NYT-listed) Karlin.
Algeria is a creation of the French, Indonesia was created by the Dutch. Didn't help us win the war. When Indonesia rose up we called nationalism there fake as countless languages are spoken there and Indonesia had had no national existence before us. Yet the uprising against us was massive and Indonesia still exists.
Ukraine is a fake, failed state created by Lenin and Stalin – its 2 historic “enemies” who they blame for everything
You’re both clueless.
I accept the olive branch and must acknowledge that I was incorrect to repress you so, despite your penchant for uncouthness, I now see that it was driven by an underlying moral clarity that shines like the Sun at a time now when it matters.
As regards Yevardian’s suggestion below, I would be honored and privileged to have Gerard take over the running of the Russian Reaction blog if he would be so interested.
ENOUGH.
This is wartime, this means wartime blogging moderation…….. which means there must be a wartime alliance between you, the New York Times – listed writer, Anatoly Karlin….. and myself.
I have been too busy, or engaged on ru.net to participate on your blog/SM – but very impressed with your Operation Z performance.
Now, of course you know my opinions and facts about you, but this is all irrelevant now. Think of this as alliance between Putin and Akhmad Kadyrov ( I am designated as Putin in this dynamic)
I will refer to you as Master from now onwards.
Alliance?
# ISTANDWITHTOLYA (New-York/Jew-york Times listed bestselling author)
It was not heroic but tragic.
I view it as a heroic
The Germanics no longer have that kind of power, their % of global GDP is too small, and they will not fight an apocalyptic nuclear war over Russia’s claims on its own historical demesne (Zelensky’s rabid psychopathic attempts to provoke WW3 regardless). Basically all non-Whites on this planet support Russia.
Neither Poland by itself or even some kind of schizo Intermarium (as if those peoples would ever get along organically) does not have the weight to be its own civilizational pole, nor do they have the will to be one, running a little clerical Shire that barks at Russia from under the American nuclear umbrella is the limit of Polish ambitions.
Russia does (just about) have the demographic, economic, and ideological weight to be its own world-civilization complete with segregated noosphere and space program. In time, many Ukrainians will serve it loyally.
One of the Russian generals overseeing the liberation of Nikolaev and Zaporozhye is apparently an ethnic Ukrainian called Zusko from Volyn (that's in the more anti-Russian far west). https://t.co/cTknemhnpn pic.twitter.com/uvu8Erarue
— Anatoly Karlin (🅉,🅉) (@akarlin0) March 12, 2022
Does this maek u mad?
Anglo world + Germany + Scandinavia (the Germanics) have about 40% of the global GDP. China has 17%. Japan has 5%. India and France each have 3%. Italy has 2%. Russia has a little under 2%.
The Germanics no longer have that kind of power, their % of global GDP is too small,
Who knows? They are part of the West but have not succumbed to self-hatred and nihilism. So they will be left after the others fall. And then we can see more, how a Slavic West looks like.
Neither Poland by itself or even some kind of schizo Intermarium (as if those peoples would ever get along organically) does not have the weight to be its own civilizational pole,
Russia has not recovered from its 1914 and 1917 self-owns. It has fewer people than Nigeria and Bangladesh. Mexico is catching up. It was much too soon to try to provoke the Germanics now, as it has done. And it not only provoked the dominant powers but did so by murdering other Slavs and trying to take them down too. So in addition to it being stupid, it is disgusting.
Russia does (just about) have the demographic, economic, and ideological weight to be its own world-civilization
Australia hasn't been sanctioned by the entire Western world and is far from China.
This is highly unlikely. Is Australia, much more dependent on Chinese trade, at “China’s mercy”?
I doubt it would tip the scales and produce a Chinese-dominated unipolar world but it would certainly insure China's total independence vis a vis the West and ability to compete as an equal peer globally. And China would make sure that Russia would not spoil this arrangement.
However, even on the freak chance you are correct, a Russia that does fit that description will massively augment Chinese power, tipping the scales in its struggle with the US and its colonies for world dominance this century.
Each of these negative possibilities have relative advantages or disadvantages, I suppose it's a matter of taste which one is preferable. Being a part of the West (even as a sort of step-brother) would have provided possibilities because the West, dominated by the tired and defeatist Germanics, has been stumbling.
A world in which Russians are relatively privileged satraps of China (having pledged fealty to it first) is better for Russians than one in which they are at best third-class citizens within the West
Or, a Russia and Eastern Europe free of poisonous self-hatred would inherit the role of being the main Western powers, in the same way that the Anglo-Germans took over from declining France and as France had earlier eclipsed the Meds.
which is clearly the fate that Western Supremacists have marked out for the Eastern Slavs.
Another self-own, another slamming of the door in its own face, as in 1914 and 1917.
I view it as a heroic and indeed deeply thymotic roll of the dice to determine whether Russia survives as an autonomous world-civilization pursuing a Cosmic destiny or fades into obscurancy, the twilight phrase of its abortive history.
5,000 deaths or 15,000 deaths or even 100,000 deaths is a modest price to pay for resolving this question sooner rather later.
If it loses, and ends up under either the Western Supremacist or the Chinese yoke if it comes to that, is quite irrelevant. The precise fates of losers are irrelevant and uninteresting in principle. For my own part, I will simply transfer over my allegiance to either the Celestial Empire or the dharmic cause, whichever I judge has the higher chance of smashing Western Supremacism, the prime adversary of all humanity.
That Putin was misinformed about what was waiting for him in Ukraine?
No idea, but it wouldn’t surprise me if it was true. The FSB doesn’t recruit the best people as I have pointed out. Ironically, though, it might be for the best anyway. This heroic leap towards finality, regardless of whether it ends in greatness or ruin, is highly uncharacteristic in light of Putin’s prior record of (excessive) caution.
It was not heroic but tragic.
I view it as a heroic
In August of 1945, after Hiroshima, Soviet entry and Nagasaki, the slogan of the IJA hawks remained:
5,000 deaths or 15,000 deaths or even 100,000 deaths is a modest price to pay for resolving this question sooner rather later.
Leader of the hawks was Anami Korechika 阿南 惟幾. Until Hirohito intervenes on the part of the Doves. A coup by young hothead Army officers starts, to kill the Doves and kidnap Hirohito.
The sooner the Americans come the better, one hundred million shattered jewel.
一億玉砕 Ichi oku gyokusai
*神州 (c: shénzhōu, j: shinshū) Deital Land is a poetic term used to refer to Japan. It’s borrowed from hanzi and used also to refer to China.
一死以て大罪を謝し奉る 神州不滅を確信しつつ
I—with my death—humbly apologize to the Emperor for the great crime. While convinced that Shinshū* is immortal.
Russia wouldn't nuke Kiev and destroy some of the holiest places in Orthodoxy though. It would unfortunately reduce much of the city to Aleppo though if it could. Could it though? That would result in thousands if not over 10,000 Russian casualties.
Russia can turn Kiev into Aleppo, they will just become modern martyrs.
Fortunately Russia is not in the hands of people with a psychopathic, degenerative ideology willing to kill millions but is in the hands of a more garden variety war criminal and old fashioned imperialist.
guy acting like a Russian nationalist would not
Too bad i’m not a Russia “nationalist”. I had my disagreements with Karlin, and I admitted I was wrong. I’m a Russian Cosmist, and I believe that Russian World has the right to exist in the future.
This is highly unlikely. Is Australia, much more dependent on Chinese trade, at “China’s mercy”? Is even North Korea? KJU’s uncle found the answer to that question the hard way.
Russia is obviously far too big and self-contained to ever become a Chinese dependency.
However, even on the freak chance you are correct, a Russia that does fit that description will massively augment Chinese power, tipping the scales in its struggle with the US and its colonies for world dominance this century. A world in which Russians are relatively privileged satraps of China (having pledged fealty to it first) is better for Russians than one in which they are at best third-class citizens within the West which is clearly the fate that Western Supremacists have marked out for the Eastern Slavs.
Australia hasn't been sanctioned by the entire Western world and is far from China.
This is highly unlikely. Is Australia, much more dependent on Chinese trade, at “China’s mercy”?
I doubt it would tip the scales and produce a Chinese-dominated unipolar world but it would certainly insure China's total independence vis a vis the West and ability to compete as an equal peer globally. And China would make sure that Russia would not spoil this arrangement.
However, even on the freak chance you are correct, a Russia that does fit that description will massively augment Chinese power, tipping the scales in its struggle with the US and its colonies for world dominance this century.
Each of these negative possibilities have relative advantages or disadvantages, I suppose it's a matter of taste which one is preferable. Being a part of the West (even as a sort of step-brother) would have provided possibilities because the West, dominated by the tired and defeatist Germanics, has been stumbling.
A world in which Russians are relatively privileged satraps of China (having pledged fealty to it first) is better for Russians than one in which they are at best third-class citizens within the West
Or, a Russia and Eastern Europe free of poisonous self-hatred would inherit the role of being the main Western powers, in the same way that the Anglo-Germans took over from declining France and as France had earlier eclipsed the Meds.
which is clearly the fate that Western Supremacists have marked out for the Eastern Slavs.
That is the "best case" scenario. There are others.The "worst case" scenario is a struggle between Moscow and Beijing to control the duopoly. Both the Kremlin and the CCP have a built in assumption that they will be "The Central Authority".
Russia is obviously far too big and self-contained to ever become a Chinese dependency.However, even on the freak chance you are correct, a Russia that does fit that description will massively augment Chinese power,
The U.S. does not have colonies. The WEF Elites of Davos inflict their SJW Globalist rule on the U.S.The Christian people of Russia and the Christian people of the U.S. are logical allies in the struggle against anti-Christian UN/NWO Authoritarianism.PEACE 😇
tipping the scales in its struggle with the US and its colonies for world dominance this century.
Casting snide aspersions on me, not backing up your words when called out on it, then being very surprised about my attitude towards you. Especially considering this was not a new pattern, you having engaged in a very long history of dissimulation and smears directed against me, for which almost anyone else would have long since banned you and your previous alter egos.
I think it would have been more efficient to simply archive the blog and open up a new “Russian Reaction Community” section (perhaps transferring over the last Open Threads since the war began) so long as demand for and interest in it existed, but I am sufficiently satisfied with this compromise.
On that note, I would also be perfectly fine with being stripped of the ability to make new threads and to no longer have my comments highlighted. Since it’s now a post-AK community blog, indeed one whose commentariat is extremely hostile to its founder (the wages of my past tolerance… no good deed ever goes unpunished), it doesn’t make much sense to continue to privilege me here above any other commenter.
Of course, the alt-right won’t reconsider their support for Putin and Muslims killing white Christians, but we know by now that the alt-right is just another flavor of post-modern nihilistic decadence, and not in any way pro-West, so that’s no surprise.
The Nazis support Ukraine.
Worth noting that Spencer was denying the Holodomor and praising Putin back when he was imprisoning Russian nationalists and LDNR commanders were dying mysterious deaths. In this context, his pivot into Ukromania isn't the sea change from prior views he portrays it as. https://t.co/FCBxWZjHJD
— Anatoly Karlin (🅉,🅉) (@akarlin0) March 8, 2022
There’s Chechen terrorists fighting for Ukraine as well.
This is the safe space in unz.com where the “brave” ukro shitheads come to huff large amounts of pixelated copium.
Hey Mr. Hack, how would you explain what your ukro-ISIL brethren have done to Volnovaha? Why destroy apartment blocks? Why fight from and inside kindergartens and hospitals? Do you not count the Russian speaking Ukranians as one of your own? Answer me, you ukie coward?
You’re lower than vermin
Shock and disbelief.
Putin has approved foreign volunteers to go and fight on the Russian side in Ukraine and tens of thousands of Middle Easterners are getting ready to go to the fronts. Does that qualify?
Shock and disbelief.
Well they want to fight, why not let them, they will not be as gentle as Russians (they will likely just shoot civilians throwing Molotov cocktails at their vehicles instead of exercising Christ-like restraint) but that is on the Ukrainians for their irrational fanaticism.
Certainly all kinds of far more dubious characters are fighting on Ukraine’s side, and for that matter historical personages such as, say, Franco were not above using Moroccans in their conflicts.
Shock and disbelief.
That is again all I have to say today.
Putin has approved foreign volunteers to go and fight on the Russian side in Ukraine and tens of thousands of Middle Easterners are getting ready to go to the fronts. Does that qualify?
Shock and disbelief.
Daily reminder: Shock and disbelief is inevitable.
I have one very strongly Russian nationalist family branch in Ukraine (children of an uncle who lived in Russia and returned to Ukraine with a Russian wife). The usual stuff - “Ukrainians and Russians are one people”, staunch members of the Russian Orthodox Church, had opposed Maidan, etc. They are now messaging me about if I’ve heard if America will close the skies so that the murderous Russians will stop killing our people.
even if Russia were to win (which is not in any way guaranteed), what will a Russian occupation look like? Israeli military theorist Martin van Creveld once wrote that, in a post-modern world, when the strong fights the weak in a long war, the strong loses. Having failed to topple Ukraine in a lightning attack, Russia will have to use much more destructive means to achieve victory, which will only embitter the population it was supposed to “liberate,” even setting aside the enormous international opprobrium. Although hardly assured one way or another, the prospect of a Russian victory being Pyrrhic and the conquest of Ukraine being a poisoned pill cannot be dismissed easily.
They are not nationalists, they are normies. No matter. Normie opinions are as irrelevant as they are malleable.
https://youtu.be/RAZXogewXBo
The weaklings get weeded out by history, while the truly Great Men make their own fortune.
Hospital that was occupied by Azov for 3 days beforehand, having dispersed the hospital staff and patients.
So, yet another Banderist gayop.
https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/366337610
but there are a couple of strange things about it
1. it was reported that the hospital wasn't working as a hospital for at least several days
2. the witnesses are confused and can't say whether it was a shell or a bomb from a plane. people learn these things quickly in war
— Russians With Attitude (@RWApodcast) March 9, 2022
there are 2 versions of what happened in mariupol:
1) russians planted news stories about ukr soldiers taking over the hospital & kicking everyone out well in advance 'cause they wanted to bomb it so badly
2) azov did what they were confirmed to have done numerous times already https://t.co/bcelVQ412l
— Russians With Attitude (@RWApodcast) March 10, 2022
If Putin and his generals were reading these comments he would have won the war within 24 hours of it starting, I am sure.
So many arm-chair generals so willing to offer advice!
While I do have a high opinion of Sailer, he didn’t know who Soleimani was before his assassination, geopolitics isn’t his forte and his takes on it are highly cartoonish and informed by Twitter journo/OSINT nincompoops.
The best lesson for China is to strike first and strike hard.
Powerful take incoming: The main lesson China actually learns from Russia/Ukraine is to strike the US military bases at Guam and Japan when invading Taiwan FROM THE OUTSET.
Current WW3 hysteria is stupid. But as of today, risks of a Pacific War II have gone up drastically IMO. https://t.co/89WeXnfgJf
— Anatoly Karlin (🅉,🅉) (@akarlin0) February 28, 2022
Strike first
The best lesson for China is to strike first and strike hard.
his [Steve Sailer's] takes on it are highly cartoonish
And you think Mr. Sailer's takes are "cartoonish"?In what reality do you think China will actually strike "US military bases at Guam and Japan when invading Taiwan"? I can't think of a worse strategy for China, which will, in a stroke, eliminate any anti-war, pro-China business lobby in the U.S., hugely inflame both American and Japanese populations and likely draw all American Pacific allies into a larger regional war against China, even if China were able to occupy Taiwan quickly.Do you get your ideas on international conflicts from video games?I think this is a deeply wishful, and indeed "cartoonish," thinking on your part as a Russian nationalist.Replies: @Dmitry, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
The main lesson China actually learns from Russia/Ukraine is to strike the US military bases at Guam and Japan when invading Taiwan FROM THE OUTSET.
Pretty minor compared to the world-historical significance of incorporating at least 25M more people into your empire.
The weaklings get weeded out by history, while the truly Great Men make their own fortune.
Quite the transformation (into... I know not what).
The weaklings get weeded out by history, while the truly Great Men make their own fortune.
I am not a coping liar, unlike some, so I’ll freely admit my early speculations about a very fast victory (predicated on Ukrainians disintegrating under shock and awe) were highly incorrect. In my defense, it was a delusion apparently shared by the Russian General Staff.
Ironically, I would have been better served by relying on my own CMP (2020): https://www.unz.com/akarlin/cmp-2021/
Russia/USSR: 32.8
Ukraine: 4.0
Still no real chance for Ukraine with ~70% of Russian military power concentrated against it.
For comparison, in 1991:
United States: 92.2
Iraq: 2.1
So it went much more quickly and more smoothly.
***
Nonetheless, while I might have been temporarily humiliated, it is Russia whose final victory is all but assured.
I largely concur.
I would have been better served by relying on my own CMP (2020): https://www.unz.com/akarlin/cmp-2021/
-- Russia/USSR: 32.8
-- Ukraine: 4.0
For comparison, in 1991:
-- United States: 92.2
-- Iraq: 2.1
What were the comparative numbers in 2003 (or 2011)?
For comparison, in 1991:
United States: 92.2
Iraq: 2.1
So it went much more quickly and more smoothly.
That sounds more sober than before. Here is a more interesting use of your intellect, instead of bombastic Russian neo-imperialist slogans: what plausible conditions do you think would lead to the "but" outcomes?
Nonetheless, while I might have been temporarily humiliated, it is Russia whose final victory is all but assured.
1. That all ended in tears for us Americans. We did lose in Iraq in the end.
I remember 20 years ago, in the first weeks of the second Gulf War, there was a lot of talk that American offensive had stalled and that America was losing in Iraq.
Americans softened up the 85 IQ Iraqi military with no outside support after a month of heavy bombing including civilian infrastructure.
Russia launched a small number of missile strikes on military objects before going up against a 95 IQ military, and yet that regardless, its rate of advance has been comparable. (In retrospect, there certainly wasn’t near enough shock and awe at the beginning, naive and humane Russians underestimated the degree to which Ukrainians had been brainwashed into their Banderist cult).
It was more like a couple of days of heavy bombing.
Americans softened up the 85 IQ Iraqi military with no outside support after a month of heavy bombing including civilian infrastructure.
So far, according to UN estimates, Russians have killed about 500 Ukrainian civilians yesterday.
naive and humane Russians
Maybe. But what remained of Iraq's air defense system was eliminated in the first week (not that there was much left after the first Gulf War) and the Iraqi command structure pretty much evaporated overnight (partly because the Iraqis weren't planning to fight conventionally in the second go, having watched our plight in Somalia compared to their own utter destruction in Desert Storm). In any case, you know what's not comparable? The respective casualty rates.
its rate of advance has been comparable
That sounds suspiciously like a back-handed acknowledgement of the grit and courage of the Ukrainians. Morale seems to matter after all, no? ;)
Russians underestimated the degree to which Ukrainians had been brainwashed into their Banderist cult
Are you selling the rest of us something or are you trying to convince yourself?Mr. Karlin, I thought you were an open-eyed, cold-calculating realist. This kind of a sloganeering is more Baghdad Bob than a sober analyst. You disappoint me.Replies: @LondonBob
naive and humane Russians
It’s all over for the ukrocels.
While they rhapsodize over maps deluding themselves Russians only control “main roads” and trumpet individual Ukrainian victories (about 75% fake) and alleged Russian atrocities (99% fake and gay… Russia has conducted this war with truly Christ-like humaneness, American military fighting Neo-Nazi terrorists who shelter in kindergartens would have produced 5,000 civilian deaths by now instead of 500), the Donbass punishers are being progressively encircled with Mariupol fully encircled and reduced daily, the logistical hub of Izyum in particular now under Russian control, and the Lugansk forces on the verge of being completely surrounded, the ring of steel around Kiev is tightening with the main road west to Zhitomir cut off as of yesterday latest, meanwhile another armored spearhead races unopposed to encircle Nikolaev. Ukrainian air assets, AA, and armor have been progressively attritioned to very low levels, such that they no longer even bother with ridiculous claims like 30 helicopter kills and the like.
All of this will become progressively more and more obvious to the deluded and low IQ here over the next ten days. As I keep saying, the greater the delusion, the greater the resulting shock and disbelief once the inevitable comes to fruition.
Daily reminder: Shock and disbelief is inevitable.
Daily reminder: Shock and disbelief.
No it’s ODS.
https://encyclopediadramatica.online/Oliver_D._Smith
Good, death to all Wh*toids.
Shock and disbelief.
Looks like Putin is desperate for a way out. Russia will immediately stop their aggression if Ukraine:
1. Recognises Crimea as Russia.
2. Allows independence for the twin republics.
3. Ukraine agrees not to join any blocs.
I said that he should have offered this before the invasion, and wrote here that he should have offered it 48 hours in, but Putin the Bungler has only just gotten round to reality, but quite possibly too late. Why would the Ukrainians cede sovereignty now, when they know they can win?
And please no Russian trolls pipe up to say that they should do so to save lives, as if the the threat of suffering casualties should make all proud people immediately surrender to imperial aggression.
Anyway, I think that Ukraine should agree, but they should get in return:
1. A written security guarantee that no Russian forces will enter Ukraine again.
2. That the definition of a “bloc” does not include the EU.
3. That the twin Republics gain independence on their pre-Russian aggression borders.
Obviously an apology and compensation should also be sought.
Or Ukraine could just keep Russia involved in an unwinnable war, where the Russian regime loses credibility by the day and the Russian military moves in the direction of zero combat effectiveness just as fast?
After all, the Ukrainian military is much stronger now than when the war began, while the Russian military is much weaker and there is zero chance of Russia conducting a successful occupation of Ukraine.
Anatoly, thoughts?
Not that I know why I ask. Anything but “Putin is a glorious warlord who is winning this not a war” might well get you arrested.
Famous Russian leaders:
Peter the Great
Catherine the Great
Putin the Bungler
Over the past 24 hours, what I proposed relative to this US political establishment handshakeworthy Putin/Russia bashing prose that will get you on CNN, PBS and NPR:
https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2022/03/03/how-to-get-to-a-place-of-peace-for-ukraine/
– Ukraine formally becomes neutral, with a limited military capability and gets back all of Donbass as a loose affiliate, while recognizing Crimea as a part of Russia. Along with the rest of the former Ukrainian SSR (minus Crimea, which has seen vast improvement since reunifying with Russia), Donbass is given an economic sweetener to go along with this arrangement.
– Quite possibly, a similar scenario can be reached with Georgia. Given an economic sweetener, Abkhazia and South Ossetia become very loosely affiliated with an economically sweetened Georgia, in exchange for a neutral Georgia.
– Georgia and Ukraine can join the EU, while being barred NATO membership, in accordance with international agreements, noting that the expansion of one military alliance shouldn’t sacrifice the security of another country.
– In turn, the hypocritically warped sanctions against Russia (influenced by Western governments) end (including the blatantly bigoted ones in sports and culture), preferably with cooler Western establishment heads acknowledging the arrogantly, ignorant, hypocritical and in some instances bigoted stances taken against Russia/Russians.
If implemented, this plan serves to improve the global economy.
Along the way, Russia improves at Western English language PR and media. Moscow can start by reviewing some of the people they’ve utilized from the West (Liz Wahl, et al) over others (ahem). Making the same mistakes are counterproductive.
Agree or disagree with Putin’s call, he gave seven years to see the Minsk Protocol implemented. Nothing! His call for a new security arrangement dissed since 2007.
I'd be inclined to support something like this, my guess is the United States would as well. The problem is that it really doesn't solve Russia's biggest problem, which is the sanctions, and the underlying reality behind them, which is that Russia has lost 10 (20, 50?) years worth of economic grown and standard of living improvements in just a week or so.
Looks like Putin is desperate for a way out. Russia will immediately stop their aggression if Ukraine:.....
If Russia wins it will be the same result, except the number of people living in misery will be greater by 25-30 million and Russians will be even poorer still due to having to maintain an occupation force and having to massively rebuild under conditions of heavy sanctions.Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
The consolation is that on the truly freak chance that Russia loses to a fake and gay country, it will prove itself to be an even faker and gayer country, and will deserve everything it gets from a vengeful and embittered West.
By misery you presumably mean joy, vigor, and national rejuvenation. The past weeklist has seen most of Russian nationalists’ remaining goals accomplished turbo.
Russia is not in the same weight class as Iran, let alone North Korea, so the effects of Western sanctions (and they are Western; not just China, but BRICS, couldn’t care less) will be much more limited. Furthermore, Russia has plenty of leverage of its own, natural gas to Germany has been cut off today, fertilizer exports have been drastically cut (Russia and Ukraine account for 1/3 of the world’s wheat exports), etc. The world economy crashing with no survivors will mitigate any public discontent with Putin over the Russian economy’s own short-term collapse.
There are three types of countries:
fertilizer exports have been drastically cut (Russia and Ukraine account for 1/3 of the world’s wheat exports), etc.
Eh, as per above, on the freak chance that Russia “loses” to Ukraine, it was never going to succeed anyway, it will have proved itself a loser civilization that might as well put it out of its misery sooner rather than later.
2022 is the best year to solve this problem after 2014, it is unlikely there would have ever been a more favorable confluence for many reasons I have repeatedly pointed out. That Ukrainian combat effectiveness turned out higher than expected just confirms this point.
I mean, this analogy will easily be misquoted or misinterpreted, but look at Germany in 1939.. re-armament had only just started, I didn’t even switch to a full war-economy until the 1943 or so.
No, this is an urban legend, it started years earlier, military spending was at 10% of GDP by 1936.
Well, unfortunately, on the general ground facts, I don't disagree. But now, after Russia has been reckless enough to initiate a full-scale war (perhaps not intended or expected as such, but in some sense, the incompetence implied by this is even worse) there's simply no way of backing out of this without closing without uncontestable military victory, without revolution and anarchy breaking out in Russia itself. It would be the 1990s collapse all over again, except this time, absolutely no mercy would be given. Russia as a country would be comprehensively destroyed, to be totally Americanised, its corpse asset-stripped and flooded with pajeets and assorted Bantu tribesmen.
There really doesn’t seem to be any way out of this mess, unless Putin moderates his demands at least somewhat (which seems unlikely).
It would be the 1990s collapse all over again, except this time, absolutely no mercy would be given. Russia as a country would be comprehensively destroyed, to be totally Americanised, its corpse asset-stripped and flooded with pajeets and assorted Bantu tribesmen.
Correct. The consolation is that on the truly freak chance that Russia loses to a fake and gay country, it will prove itself to be an even faker and gayer country, and will deserve everything it gets from a vengeful and embittered West. Those who would refuse to walk the path of glory will instead crawl along the path of pain, broken and humiliated, as is the eternal fate of cowards and traitors.
If Russia wins it will be the same result, except the number of people living in misery will be greater by 25-30 million and Russians will be even poorer still due to having to maintain an occupation force and having to massively rebuild under conditions of heavy sanctions.Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
The consolation is that on the truly freak chance that Russia loses to a fake and gay country, it will prove itself to be an even faker and gayer country, and will deserve everything it gets from a vengeful and embittered West.
Ukraine was bombing Donbass for 8 years and was ready to bomb it for another 80 years or however long it took until conquering it. This is not a war that Russia started, but it is one that Russia will end, very mercifully and quickly by comparison.
Most of the civilian deaths in Donbas (less than 4,000) occurred in 2014-2015.
Ukraine was bombing Donbass for 8 years and was ready to bomb it for another 80 years or however long it took until conquering it.
Well these threads have become more or less useless (read: overrun by paid trolls). I guess that’s the price for Mr. Unz’s leniency.
Well as I stated before I would be very happy if Ron Unz was to archive this blog and open separate Open Threads on Ukraine (or whichever other topics). The blog is supposedly under my name but I don’t even have moderation powers under posts not started by myself.
Looking forwards to seeing the cockroaches scuttling about my blog writhing in shock and disbelief a week hence.
Replies: @sudden death
Rantrums run through three phases:
Yelling and screaming. During this initial phase, a child asserts his or her will mostly vocally, often disagreeing with a directive.
Physical action. This is when the child may push furniture or throw toys, ultimately tiring out and bringing on the final stage.
Crying, whining and fussing. The more physical part of the tantrum over, bigger histrionics give way to tears and the child can be consoled.
Not to say that he doesn't have human considerations, (any person who is not completely corrupt, evil and stupid, is opposed to this invasion of Ukraine), but he is also particularly vulnerable to the sanctions and has in recent years made his workers protest against sanctions. Apparently, GAZ was very badly damaged by the sanctions against Deripaska (from the Trump administration?). In 2019, oligarch Deripaska made his workers produce a "music video", to protest (Trump's?) sanctions against him. Here Deripaska's workers' "spontaneous" 2019 anti-sanction song was based on a classic "Coolio" song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRK0mibI_DcReplies: @Blinky Bill
Jewish oligarch, Oleg Deripaska. “Peace is very important!
Wagies Posting Ls.
Not just a wagie, but a Russian eurocel (it’s all over for you guys, so sorry). One would think after assuring us for so long that this would never happen because all of Russia’s elite children study in the West, he’d own his L. Instead, he just keeps digging deeper down the hole, lashing out at people being corrupt, stupid and evil.
I have to google these words, as I'm not 13 years old. But I remember discussing with you when you said that inflation was not a problem, even without the geopolitical contribution. You still didn't reply to the last comment when I was discussing about rising inflation.
eurocel (it’s all over for you guys, so sorry).
Yes, some people I know are trying to arrange to help fund for refugees, it seems like most people are not slave to demons of corruption and nihilism, even if a lot of original source of wealth had been ultimately derived with their assistance.
of Russia’s elite
No offense, but you have a /r/worldnews-tier understanding of war. Reality itself will brutally refute your fantasies over the next several days.
Shock and disbelief.
What’s really insane is your and Yevardian’s lack of basic reading comprehension and contextualization skills. (Hack’s problem not so insane, he’s a known moron).
You seem to be one of the very few people here who understand what is going on, thank you for that! The majority of the comments project such astonishing levels of immaturity, I’m starting to wonder if this has turned into a kindergarten but no – even my 5-yo has a better grasp on basic military matters. I guess, Globohomo’s “education” has done a great job, after all.
I don’t have time for a detailed post but here it goes:
It is not just linking up South Ukraine/sea of Azov to Russia – the whole Southeast will collapse after the Southern and Northern groupings link up – this places a dilemma on the the Ukrainian grouping that is dug in in the Donbass (the Ukraine’s the most battle-hardened and capable units) – get into a pocket and feed the meatgrinder or retreat towards Dnepropetrovsk and get massacred by the VKS. Since elements of the Crimean grouping are already near Zaporozhye, the Ukrainians must decide quickly. Either way, the Southeast will be Russian in a matter of days.
After Harkov falls – the whole leftbank/Eastern Ukraine will be in Russian hands. But Harkov is the home of the most radical wackos, so things might turn hairy. There’s a rumor that the city administration prefers to surrender, but this is just a rumor and the Pravoseki radicals might not go with that – they’ve got nothing to lose anyways.
The left wing of the Crimean grouping is, already, at Nikolaev’s gates. This forces a dilemma on the Odessa garrison – keep digging in and risk getting surrounded or send a sizable detachment to help reinforce the river Buk crossings at Nikolaev.
I have no idea of the force size in Transnistria/Pridnestrovye but if I were Ukrainian, I’d be really worried – the Pridnestrovye could be used as offensive launch pad in multiple directions: 1. Towards Odessa/Black sea coast clean up. 2. Towards Kiev, thus sever Western Ukraine from the rest of the country. 3. Towards the West, for example – Vinitsa.
Kiev is surrounded from the West, the North and the East. Its complete encirclement will be accomplished very soon.
Since there are multiple indicators that the USA will fight Russia ’till the last Ukrainian (the scorched earth policy of arming criminals, not letting people leave town, etc), the Ukraine’s capitulation depends on how quickly and bloodlessly Kiev and Harkov are taken. Given the RoE, this will be a very complex and difficult task to achieve but it must be done within 7-10 days. Otherwise, a humanitarian crisis would develop which will be gleefully utilized by Russia’s enemies – the Russians know that.
Finally, instead of watching videos with no context, reading Twitter-“experts” and watching TV, it would be much more useful to focus on the OPERATIONAL picture – for that you, simply, need a map which is relatively representative of the situation on the ground – hell, even the Wiki map is good enough to see what is going on – the Russians are thinking big and they are going after the WHOLE of Ukraine – this is perfectly clear now.
Have a good day/night!
Thanks for keeping the flame of rationality alive in this Godforsaken hole.
Bombed an Azov recruiting center early in the morning with zero deaths.
so let's summarize
the strike hit 1) a legitimate military target 2) a recruitment station set up by psychopathic war criminals 3) was timed specifically to avoid hitting women & civilians 4) killed no one
— Russians With Attitude (@RWApodcast) March 1, 2022
But in principle yes, this too will get branded a war crime, I don’t know why Russia bothers by this point.
*NICE.* I think utu's <30 years estimate of gulag-time for AK's spiritual redemption may have been overly generous.Replies: @German_reader
But in principle yes, this too will get branded a war crime, I don’t know why Russia bothers by this point.
Bombed an Azov recruiting center early in the morning with zero deaths.
But in principle yes, this too will get branded a war crime, I don’t know why Russia bothers by this point.
A recent image attributed to the Moscow subway system presents some consideration for a potentially larger problem.
Increasingly, people everywhere have stopped using cash to pay for simple purchases. The electronic payment systems shifted to credit cards and debit cards, and then, eventually as technology merged with phone platforms, the linking of your portable transponder to your financial institution in order to make purchases became an efficient way to make transactions.
However, as governments start using definitions of who is good and who is bad to create sanctions against the bad actors, and with Russia representing the most expansive modern targeting of the global financial system, the control of monetary transactions enters the sphere of integrated payment systems like VISA, Mastercard, Apple Pay, Google Pay and others. With Russia being essentially “de-banked” on the world stage, this happens:
AK, your legacy is safe: open discussions are rare and now the West is shutting down any diverging views. There goes the bedrock value of the West. It is not a good sign for any civilization to suppress its core values.
Regarding the soy-boys: one should never show half-done work to a moron. We now see what happens. Poor Mr. Hack is so giddy that I am worried about him once the reality hits and the dancing cholas go home.
It is always like that, Napoleon declared a glorious victory and held a banquet. Germans and their allies (almost all of Europe as always, including many Ukrainians) were winning till the bitter end. It is in their blood, they resent the horrible defeats by Russia – this is visible among the giggling Germans like that fool Olaf.
After 5 days: Black See coast and Dnieper estuary are in the Russian hands, Ukies in the east have no way to retreat with weapons, Kiev and Kharkov are surrounded.
Strategically any hope of Ukraine in NATO or reoccupying Donbas by force is gone. The cost for Russia is isolation and lost fortunes by the ‘oligarchs’. Nobody in Russia cares about the oligarchs, they hate them and want them gone. You cannot manipulate a country or slow down its internal development when you isolate yourself from it – as the West has just done with Russia. The massive natural resources and lands are still there. This is an unfolding loss-loss for Europe and Russia, but they will talk again after this is over. They really don’t have much of a choice.
As I noted before, I am sorry to have left this literally Reddit-tier community of soylings, limitrophes, and box unpacking video connoisseurs turned overnight military experts as my last legacy to UR. Bizarre that it remains under my name.
Anyhow, the Ukrainian collapse is days away. The level of shock and disbelief here and on Reddit will be biblical.
It is hard to find any scenario that leads to a Ukrainian military win.
Macgregor’s perspective reconciles the disparity between what the U.S. government, State Dept, and corporate media are saying -vs- what is visible.Essentially, Macgregor is saying that Russia does not want to engage a civilian population and is making every effort to avoid civilian conflict in those population centers. In part this is because Putin knows the Western approach is a propaganda war that would be fueled by what it would look like if population carnage took place. However, if Ukraine President Zelensky does not acquiesce to terms, Putin could easily crush those centers with artillery and rockets.What Macgregor outlines would explain why these skirmishes always seem ‘off in the distance’.The western government and media perspective is to make it seem like Volodymyr Zelenski and the rebellious civilian misfits are beating the Russian army because that frames a better story. However, what Macgregor outlines is Putin not wanting to fuel the United Nations, NATO and State Dept narrative engineering, thus the absence of visible fighting
Doxing myself a bit, but don’t care – senpai has noticed me!
Margarita Simonyan screenshots my post in Telegram along with a few others, says thank you.
The day wasn’t completely bad 😀
1. Russia has a 4th rate military that cannot even operate at night. France, by themselves, would comprehensively destroy them. Their tempo of operations would be at least twice as fast.
2. A Russian nationalism that rests of murdering Ukrainians is doomed.
3. Ukraine may have been a fake country but it isn’t now and any Ukrainians who sided with Russia are the sort of traitors and scumbags which would make Ghani look honourable.
4. All political careers end in failure and Putin’s has ended in epic failure. It is fitting given how successful it was previously.
5. Russia should have negotiated recognition of Crimea and the Republics and been at peace. NATO never actually threatened Russia militarily. That’s a paranoid fantasy.
6. Ukraine will join NATO. Possibly even the EU! Russia should join too and force it all in a conservative direction with Poland etc.
7. Russia may also now lose Chechnya, Belorus et al. It is not the West that has been revealed as the paper tiger.
8. Democracies are plenty warlike and good at fighting. Idiots always forget this. America got hit with one terrorist attack on 9/11 and then invaded a country on the side of the world and terrorised the Taliban for 2 decades. They also flatten Iraq and would have flattened a bunch of other countries had their vengeful spirit not been directed to hopeless nation building. Democracies fight and fight well. France only didn’t resist German occupation in WW2 because it was too short a time and French could go off and join the free French to resist from war not internally.
9. Somehow a Ukrainian TV clown is now a warrior President and will be the face of the decade. Lol at Putin and Russian military for being so humiliated. Come on guys, you should have just developed Siberia etc.
10. This is all very sad. The Russian establishment and nationalists need to forge a new narrative without Putin and he should fall on his sword to save the movement. Join NATO, save Europe from within
Indeed. It's shocking that the Russians still can't fight at night! Especially when you used to be able to buy decent Russian-made night-vision equipment at Walmart a decade ago. I'm guessing the real problem is that Russian generals had no real plans for fighting at night? Whatever...their meager advances come to a complete halt once the sun goes down. The over-hyped "modern" Russian military is pretty embarrassing.
1. Russia has a 4th rate military that cannot even operate at night. France, by themselves, would comprehensively destroy them. Their tempo of operations would be at least twice as fast.
LOL, any gestures Russia made regarding joining NATO were laughed out of the room, even under that alcoholic stooge Yeltsin. There was no reason for NATO to exist after 1991.
10. This is all very sad. The Russian establishment and nationalists need to forge a new narrative without Putin and he should fall on his sword to save the movement. Join NATO, save Europe from within
What Putin has done is expose Russia to systematic deconstruction and disembowelment. He is an utter fossil. The fanboyness on display here and elsewhere should be: automatically disqualifying to service to the Russian people and state. To Davos and the WEF - oooooo, what juicy bits those Russian oligarchs look like!
5. Russia should have negotiated recognition of Crimea and the Republics and been at peace. NATO never actually threatened Russia militarily. That’s a paranoid fantasy.
Plausible but I suspect sooner the opposite will be true. Regulators will be clamping down on crypto hard.
If Europe/US are prepared to confiscate CBR's foreign assets, by far the single biggest such sanctions measure ever enacted, then their regulators shouldn't logically have problems with "Sinoizing" policy on crypto, which has much less global economic "weight" than Russia anyway.
— ethotaku.eth (💵,🪙) (@ethotaku) February 27, 2022
Based and posadistpilled.
And also, for the record, I got the current situation wrong, and Karlin was right.
I expected Russia to bomb Ukraine, and I advocated for it like a year ago. I wanted ballistic missile strikes on Ukrainian warehouses of extra military equipment. This happened in like first 12 hours of our current adventure. It was good and proper. But i expected those strikes to compel Ukraine to fulfill the Minsk agreements.
What i didn’t see was ground invasion and far more importantly, Russia giving up on Minsk process that Russia was calling for for the past 8 years. I thought Minsk was the key. With Russia giving up on Minsk, it means global Western dictated diplomacy is dead and we are off into a new bright and glorious future.
There is no turning back. It will be a fight to the death, and new global order will be born one way or another. Putin’s 2007 vision will come true or nukes will fly. Maybe both, but like 5 years sooner than expected.
So as a Russian Cosmist and accelerationist, all i have to say is well, it’ll certainly be an adventure of a lifetime, whether we like it or not 🙂
Yes, this. Also, while I repeat that I greatly appreciate many of the commenters, it has become on the whole a space that is highly hostile not just to my corpus of work and to my core values but to me personally (https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-176/#comment-5188687), up to the point of one particular commenter calling for my execution, which is perfectly fine and based, but also rather absurd to continue to associate with me.
I requested Ron Unz to archive this blog and, if there is sufficient interest, to create a new/separate Open Threads section for the post-RR commentariat.
Seems obvious that AK does not want to make the time commitment necessary for maintaining this forum, and opening this thread was an effort on his part to try to remove such expectations. Nor should he reasonably feel the obligation, as he has already proposed and supported an alternative, and has had the accomplishment of opening some 170 odd open threads.
Of course, I am an Unz AK open thread partisan and hope it continues forever, but believe it will have to find some other modus operandi, than asking him or Mr. Unz to make new open threads.
In addition to Mariupol I think you said that Ukraine's air defenses were eliminated right away (like within half a day), which was clearly wrong.
As I recall, that was pretty much the only such example.
Gostomel was retaken by the Ukrainians and then lost again IIRC.
That said, apart from the downed Russian bomber, there were several other such cases on your part, the encirclement and destruction of the paratroopers at Gostome
American DOD conformed it, so it's not just the Ukrainians making the claim.
AFAIK there’s still no evidence of the 2 shot down transport planes,
You were absolutely right when it came to the Russian side and predicting what it would do, one of the few who was so accurate.Replies: @Anatoly Karlin, @Beckow
On the broader points, I was extremely accurate. Timed the invasion to within two days
Here are Russian-speaking locals berating a poor captured Russian conscript in their own language
This proves nothing. There are also videos of very positive local reactions.
In addition to Mariupol I think you said that Ukraine’s air defenses were eliminated right away (like within half a day), which was clearly wrong.
A critical mass of them were, since Russia has total air dominance, and to date all the most stunning Ukrainian AA successes have either been refuted or remain unconfirmed.
Gostomel was retaken by the Ukrainians and then lost again IIRC.
The paratroopers retreated to a more defensible perimeter, and held off the Ukrainian counter-attacks with air support. Then ground forces linked up with them.
Incidentally, looks like the Snake Island saga was indeed a total larp designed for credulous Westerners and svidomy. I am glad they are alive.
I have decided to give Thulean Friend a reprieve in my unlimited mercy and compassion but he will henceforth have to comment here as Thulean Fraud.
Not that I haven’t also believed “good” news that turned out to have been false (such as the shoot down of a Russian bomber which turned out to have been a Ukrainian fighter in reality), but AK also has a history of believing things optimistically.
As I recall, that was pretty much the only such example. (I ascribed some small chance that Ukrainians would surrender immediately as in 2014. To my pleasant surprise, that seemed to be unironically happening 2 hours in, whereas in reality, it was just a good Russian psyops operations. You are certainly right I should have been more skeptical).
That said, apart from the downed Russian bomber, there were several other such cases on your part, the encirclement and destruction of the paratroopers at Gostomel. (There’s also increasing evidence the Snake Island affair was PR, and AFAIK there’s still no evidence of the 2 shot down transport planes, I suppose we’ll know sooner rather than later).
On the broader points, I was extremely accurate. Timed the invasion to within two days (to the hour, if you count LDNR recognition/formal entry of Russian troops there as the start). The speed of the advance also currently tallying with my projections.
In addition to Mariupol I think you said that Ukraine's air defenses were eliminated right away (like within half a day), which was clearly wrong.
As I recall, that was pretty much the only such example.
Gostomel was retaken by the Ukrainians and then lost again IIRC.
That said, apart from the downed Russian bomber, there were several other such cases on your part, the encirclement and destruction of the paratroopers at Gostome
American DOD conformed it, so it's not just the Ukrainians making the claim.
AFAIK there’s still no evidence of the 2 shot down transport planes,
You were absolutely right when it came to the Russian side and predicting what it would do, one of the few who was so accurate.Replies: @Anatoly Karlin, @Beckow
On the broader points, I was extremely accurate. Timed the invasion to within two days
Looks like there’s fighting in downtown Kiev now. My prediction of Kiev liberation on Feb 26 might well come true to the day and there’s absolutely nothing any of you can do about it except cope, seethe, and dilate.
Putin has truly immortalized his legacy, cementing his place at least at the level of Ivan III or Catherine the Great in the history books.
What you wrote is almost retarded in its simplicity. How about Ireland joining an alliance with let say Iran (or Russia, China) and planning to place missiles (“defensive” no less) as close to England as possible. Then they would start calling Ulster a “terrorist separatist state” armed and supported by UK and bomb it intermittently for 8 years killing 5k civilians. The people in Ulster would shoot back – the horror!
The Irish would also corner 40-50 English speakers in Galway and burn them to dead as Ukies did in Odessa. IRA militants would march in Dublin yelling “kill the English”. Then the Irish Premier would announce that they will go for nuclear weapons.
How long would it take for UK to invade? Try to be honest. And all the bleating about “Ireland can’t threaten UK, they are too weak” would mean nothing. Maybe they are weak, but they are also quite stupid and that makes them dangerous. It is not only about banning a language. Think.
Based, although on any consistent linguistic logic the Irish would also need to liquidate about 98% of their own population alongside them.
The Irish would also corner 40-50 English speakers in Galway and burn them to dead as Ukies did in Odessa.
Perhaps your reasoning is just a product of simple idiocy and lack of real interest in Eastern Europe?
How come you are so defensive about a simple question?
AK,
This OT is becoming unstable. Would you please consider starting a new thread?
Given current events, posting volume is likely to remain high.
PEACE 😇
Again, if there some reason to think there is a window of opportunity to hurt Russia by acting swiftly – heh, pardon the pun – I’d like to hear it.
(1) Strike while the iron is hot. So we do not get too soft and lazy and succumb down the road to pro Russian subversion like that of yours.
(2) Cumulative effect of action will be higher if they begin sooner. For instance Karlin and other hangers on propagandists may have trouble with their bank account or bitcoin wallet already tomorrow and not two weeks later. It may somewhat cool their heads sooner. Some silovik who really matter in Kremlin decisions may have reason to pause and think if his kid is expelled from some fancy school in the West.
(3) To demonstrate to the world an other wannabe Putins that the West is united and can act swiftly.
And then should also begin talking about Nuremberg 2 and whether death penalty would be on the table also for Russian Julius Streichers like Karlin. But with this we do not have to hurry because we do not have custody of the perpetrators yet.
Being myself a russophobe (it's stupid for the hare to be a wolfophile) still have to admit that AK has admiredly thick skin for tolerating us here, especially now. Looking at the future, we might be even shooting at each in real world somewhere in the dirty mud while mobilized, but he just sneers, but yet still didn't ban me or you, lol. Kudos for this ;)Replies: @utu
And then should also begin talking about Nuremberg 2 and whether death penalty would be on the table also for Russian Julius Streichers like Karlin. But with this we do not have to hurry because we do not have custody of the perpetrators yet.
Ukrainians who yearn to larp as Israelis might love Israel, but the Israelis don’t care so much for Ukraine.
This is funny because Ukrainian rhetoric has compared itself to Israel & "Downbass" to Palestine, suggested it would recognize Jerusalem as capital, etc. While Israel halted weapons supplies to Ukraine, now talks business directly with its future owners. https://t.co/COviN2fKWo pic.twitter.com/LKtP5FnZaX
— Anatoly Karlin (🅉,🅉) (@akarlin0) February 19, 2022
On a separate note, doubts forming over that Snake Island “Russian warship go fuck yourself” story:
Deserters are rare, at most 10%. Despite extremely heavy fighting. Nobody of importance has fled Kiev. Government is still all there:
Based on the simple human psychology in 2022 (not in some mythical past), fewer than 50% of the assembled Ukrainian soldiers would fight given the odds. It could actually be fewer if the thunder and noise are overwhelming. People are not suicidal. Given that the Kiev elites would be visibly trying to escape to Lviv and further west,
We are 2 days into it, early. Some are fighting, others are not. My estimate of about half looking for a way out holds.
About escaping, I specifically said: the elites. They are gone, the oligarchs are all gone except Kolomoisky, half of the members of Parliament are gone, foreign advisors are gone. Zelensky was designated as a sacrifice, surrounded by “bodyguards” assigned to him by (well, figure that out), he cannot move, he cannot negotiate, he is there to cry on TV.
Today 7k Ukrainians crossed into Slovakia to move into tents prepared for 5k – in one day, and almost all in cars from Lviv, Kiev,… (Men 18-60 are held back, we are getting all women just as the last C19 restrictions are being lifted. This is getting interesting…).
Kharkov is burning. Looks like it will be over in 10 days.
Poroshenko is there.
They are gone, the oligarchs are all gone
Are they? Initially it was just 23 of them, most from Opposition Bloc.
half of the members of Parliament are gone
The ones coming to Poland are just women, kids and old people. Few men are even trying, they are staying to defend their homes.
Today 7k Ukrainians crossed into Slovakia to move into tents prepared for 5k
Few are being held back. Most are staying behind voluntarily. I personally know such cases. Send the wife and kids to safety and choose to stay behind. Like this guy who stayed behind before the travel ban on fighting age men:
Men 18-60 are held back
If there’s a specific goal of weakening Russian power than relatively open migration policy to skilled, young Russians would be highly detrimental to the Russian Federation and politically painful to counter.
Bullish for Russia. Those are precisely the people Europeans want to hurt most:
So it is the most cosmopolitan and anti-Putin Russian demographics are being punished hardest, as is usual with such sanctions. Not that I am complaining, but it really is very funny. https://t.co/qeF1xRVEdw
— Anatoly Karlin (🅉,🅉) (@akarlin0) February 24, 2022
Ron only demonstrated he apparently didn’t read past the title and first paragraph, which is fine. Apparently a problem you have as well.
Thulean Friend has made what I demonstrated to be specifically false claims and pointedly refused to engage with them, preferring instead to “subtweet” me by Agreeing with Ron.
He's doing damage control, already began on Twitter and trying to continue it here. Karlin doesn't like to admit when he got something wrong, so he changes his predictions after the fact and then pretends nothing changed. When it gets pointed out, he gets amusingly angry.Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
Well, Anatoly, the title of your column was “Regathering of the Russian Lands” with the subtitle “The Empire, Long Divided, Must Unite,” and your first sentence included the phrase “a speed run towards Russian Empire 2.0.”
Put up or get banned. You have 24 hours.
Well, Anatoly, the title of your column was "Regathering of the Russian Lands" with the subtitle "The Empire, Long Divided, Must Unite," and your first sentence included the phrase "a speed run towards Russian Empire 2.0." Given all of that, I think it was reasonable for me to consider the "reintegration" of Ukraine as one of your main themes.Replies: @Thulean FriendNo, my main argument was that the Russians would attack Ukraine including the capture of Kiev and quite soon.
Also, Karlin’s main argument had been that Putin’s goal was to conquer Ukraine and “reintegrate” it into Russia...
Well, Anatoly, the title of your column was “Regathering of the Russian Lands” with the subtitle “The Empire, Long Divided, Must Unite,” and your first sentence included the phrase “a speed run towards Russian Empire 2.0.”
He’s doing damage control, already began on Twitter and trying to continue it here. Karlin doesn’t like to admit when he got something wrong, so he changes his predictions after the fact and then pretends nothing changed. When it gets pointed out, he gets amusingly angry.
You’re a moron, but we knew that already.
While we’re on the topic of predictive accuracy, I will note that there was no false flag terrorist attack as called for by unboxing video aficionado Dmitry.
Perhaps it is appropriate to treat his various other claims about Russian realities with the requisite amount of skepticism.
Sure, some of that is valid criticism.
This comment by Ron Unz on Karlin article should be framed to remind everybody how poor his judgment is, how easily it is clouded by his preconceptions and wishful thinking...I wrote “This might be a good sign” expressing hope against hope which is what any decent person would feel confronted with looming war while Unz was shilling for Putin repeating Russia Today and Zacharova’s talking points
Also, Karlin’s main argument had been that Putin’s goal was to conquer Ukraine and “reintegrate” it into Russia, and that’s part of what I described as “total lunacy.” But at this point, it’s still not at all clear that will actually happen. My impression is the Russians have mostly been using their stand-off weapons to destroy Ukraine’s military capabilities, which is something quite different.
No, my main argument was that the Russians would attack Ukraine including the capture of Kiev and quite soon.
Wide-ranging annexations is something I am convinced will happen (possibly not directly but through various convoluted operations, though perhaps not, relations with the West are dead for a decade either way so there’s no particular to even respect appearances).
Well, Anatoly, the title of your column was "Regathering of the Russian Lands" with the subtitle "The Empire, Long Divided, Must Unite," and your first sentence included the phrase "a speed run towards Russian Empire 2.0." Given all of that, I think it was reasonable for me to consider the "reintegration" of Ukraine as one of your main themes.Replies: @Thulean FriendNo, my main argument was that the Russians would attack Ukraine including the capture of Kiev and quite soon.
Also, Karlin’s main argument had been that Putin’s goal was to conquer Ukraine and “reintegrate” it into Russia...