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  • Population is power, so it pays to keep track of it (along with national IQ and GDPcc), for those with an interest in geopolitics and futurism. I used to spend way too much time poring over statistics almanacs and the CIA World Factbook during my school years, so I have a pretty good fix on...
  • From what I remember Italians were known for organized crime, rather than the petty crimes and muggings Latinos are known for.

  • SEA countries in Indochina have not had much change in their populations recently, speaking of Burma, where are all those brand new weapons that the Kachins have come from? Is China supplying them to keep the Tatmadaw from dominating Burma? And where are they getting all those uniforms? Hardly the ancient Lee Enfields that the Afghan rebels had in the 80s?

  • @songbird
    @Wency

    Land is often expensive in Japan, so it does not seem to be related to declining population.

    The Japanese build differently. Homes are not built to last. They are often not re-sold but demolished and built again after 25 years. Their postwar culture has always been this way. Maybe, it has to do with mass bombing of cities - is government incentivized to promote the building industry. Maybe, it has to do with Buddhism?

    Seems pretty wasteful. I think any move to pro-natalism would probably require some sort of housing plan.

    IMO, the Japanese are afraid to do what it takes to increase fertility because of their constrained geography, even though they probably have the state/societal capacity to do it. You can't make a spiritual appeal and ask for replacement fertility of 2.1. To turn things around, you've got to go all-out - make a total propaganda/economic effort.

    Replies: @128, @AltanBakshi, @Dmitry

    90+ percent of Honshu, Shikoku, and Kyushu are mountains. Go to a Tokyo suburb and you see how small the houses are compared to what you see in US suburbs, or even English council housing. And housing in Japan is still quite expensive in the big cities, even after the post-1989 housing decline, a high population growth rate would cause it to rise again. Most Japs would find Hokkaido too snowy and cold to settle in.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @128

    After WW2, in addition to all the destroyed cities, over 6 million Japanese were repatriated into Japan. Japan should have tried to hold on to Manchukuo, rather that move South.

    Replies: @Blinky Bill, @AltanBakshi

  • @Wency
    @Yellowface Anon

    My takeaway from Japan, as an American who spent a few very enjoyable weeks there and did some traveling in suburbs and smaller cities: a lot of the real estate and infrastructure just looks bad. Even in a lot of prosperous-seeming parts of Tokyo. I have to think a big part of this is that no one wants to invest too much capital into renovating real estate in a country where the population is declining 0.4% per year, so the real estate is just going through a depreciation process even in parts of the country where the population is holding up for the moment.

    I would guess another factor is that in the US there is an active desire to signal that places are good and safe, not "sketchy", because it's a more dangerous country. I recall going to a dilapidated and dimly-lit train station in Japan at night that, had it been located in the US, white people wouldn't dare set foot in the place, imagining they'd be extremely lucky to not get mugged. Instead I saw, among other things, a 10-year-old girl alone there in her school uniform, standing about fearlessly.

    Though, to be clear, I'd still take crappy-looking real estate over migration-driven population growth.

    Replies: @128, @songbird, @128, @mal

    In fact Japanese infrastructure may be overbuilt for its population, especially in the countryside, because the government uses infrastructure spending for pump prime the economy, and also provide construction jobs, like what China is doing.

  • @Wency
    @Yellowface Anon

    My takeaway from Japan, as an American who spent a few very enjoyable weeks there and did some traveling in suburbs and smaller cities: a lot of the real estate and infrastructure just looks bad. Even in a lot of prosperous-seeming parts of Tokyo. I have to think a big part of this is that no one wants to invest too much capital into renovating real estate in a country where the population is declining 0.4% per year, so the real estate is just going through a depreciation process even in parts of the country where the population is holding up for the moment.

    I would guess another factor is that in the US there is an active desire to signal that places are good and safe, not "sketchy", because it's a more dangerous country. I recall going to a dilapidated and dimly-lit train station in Japan at night that, had it been located in the US, white people wouldn't dare set foot in the place, imagining they'd be extremely lucky to not get mugged. Instead I saw, among other things, a 10-year-old girl alone there in her school uniform, standing about fearlessly.

    Though, to be clear, I'd still take crappy-looking real estate over migration-driven population growth.

    Replies: @128, @songbird, @128, @mal

    Huh? As seen on Google street view the roads look to be in good condition, and even minor roads in remote areas are paved, compared to the US where the rural areas are a large part made up of gravel roads, like in Wisconsin, Montana, or Wyoming, very small towns in the Western US do not even have paved roads, unlike in Japan.

    • Replies: @Wency
    @128

    Yeah, Japan does have pretty good roads. I was mainly talking about buildings. The comment on "infrastructure" was more about public buildings, train stations and the like. I didn't see anything that was as bad as the worst you can find in the US, but also saw very little that would qualify as "good" in the US.

  • @Pumblechook
    @melanf

    In labour market dynamics and social standing yes agreed, but that wasn’t my point - rather I’m saying that both in the US and Russia there are large groups numbering in the millions (Tatars, Hispanics but also I guess groups like Lebanese Christians or Georgians) which on paper give the ‘mental impression’ of a non-European element which is in rigid contrast to the majority European population.

    However, this is not always so clear-cut and there is overlapping and leakage across these groups - for instance, there are of course many millions of Hispanics who are either totally Spanish/Italian in origin or Tatars who look and act almost entirely Russian and intermarry with children being absorbed into Russian ethnic.

    Replies: @128, @melanf, @EldnahYm

    90 percent of Latinos in the US are low-end laborers. Middle class and above Latinos in Lati American are unlikely to immigrate to the US.

    • Replies: @AP
    @128


    Middle class and above Latinos in Lati American are unlikely to immigrate to the US.
     
    True of Mexicans but not true of Cubans, Venezuelans, etc. Their upper and middle classes come to the USA.

    Also, the really impoverished Latinos tend not to leave because they don’t have the money to pay smugglers nor the wherewithal to successfully undertake the journey; they tend to be working class rather than poor. Much of the Mexican immigration has consisted of small farmers or small shopkeeper types.

    Replies: @Pericles

    , @songbird
    @128

    The observational decline of America, and especially of California, seems to contrast this "Latinos aren't so bad" or "are almost white" line-of-thinking, which AP and some others seem to favor.

    I might also say that future, state-level predictions are pretty bleak, even if one counts 10-20% of Latinos as "white." And CRT means that any lower-performing group will embrace the racial narrative which confers them status.

    Replies: @AnonFromTN

    , @Almost Missouri
    @128


    Middle class and above Latinos in Lati American are unlikely to immigrate to the US.
     
    Depends. Whenever a Latin American country gets taken over by Leftists (e.g., Cuba, Venezuela), its middle- and upper-class flee to the US en masse, and typically become American rightists. And there's plenty of ordinary background immigration by the middle class just seeking higher wages in the US for their skills (e.g., engineers, accountants). Among the upper class, they don't exactly immigrate so much as establish a US residence, second home and bank accounts/investments, so that if their family is on the losing end of the next coup/revolution/civil war, they have a first world bolt hole prepared.

    But yes, the majority of immigration, certainly the majority of illegal immigration, is low-end labor. I don't know if it is 90% though. The middle class immigrants are less evident in the US because they assimilate pretty well. The upper class immigrants are less evident because they don't want to be noticed.

    Replies: @EldnahYm

  • @Pumblechook
    @Almost Missouri

    Yes, I’d peg France at around 10 million Afro-Arabs (from Malagasy to Moroccans to Caribbeans), maybe even a little less.

    But that’s still an enormous quantity - and indeed, higher birth rates mean this group (including second generation) probably accounts for 175k-200k of the annual 725k births. Everything isn’t so black and white though, to pardon the pun - there is a large and growing mixed population in France, I know people in the following categories and all of them pass as European and are people you would want to help build a country in terms of behaviour and intelligence:

    - Breton/Kabyle
    - Berber/southern french
    - Malagasy/Italian

    Agree with the previous commenter that both Russia and the US aren’t as bad as they seem on paper due to groups like ‘Hispanics’ and ‘Tatars’ being more nuanced than most people realise

    Replies: @AltanBakshi, @melanf, @128

    90 percent of Latinos in the US are basically low-end laborers right? This means their ancestry is unlikely to be largely European.

    • Replies: @Pumblechook
    @128

    90% is overstating things. All we can go on is statistics and observations - 66% of Hispanic Americans identify as ‘white’.

    Now I think we would both agree there is no chance that 2/3 of Latins in the states are ‘white’ (if we define that as 85%+ European) but out of a total 60-million I would say it’s reasonable to say approx 10 million fall into that category and more if you include the millions of ‘mixed’ people with Hispanic and Anglo/Slav/Italo parents. It’s underreported but the highest US ‘inter ethnic’ marriage combination is non-Hispanic white male with Hispanic woman of any race.

    I won’t ramble on since I’ve written about this before if you care enough to check my comment history.

    , @AP
    @128

    The sample of this study of Mexican-Americans was 57% European genetic contribution, 39% Native contribution, and 4% African descent:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3131689/

    Native ancestry in Mexico varies by region and northern Mexico and central highlands contributed to immigration to the US:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c9/Geographic_ancestry_distribution_of_Mexico.png

  • Where does Indonesia rank here? IQ in the mid-80s, or maybe high 80s, with a very large population of 270mn, with a 1 trillion dollar economy, and decent industry. And has an OK military for its size.

  • The Navalny campaign is calling for nationwide protests on April 21 after the failure of their campaign to even get half a million people (quick arithmetic: 0.3% of Russia's population) to register and commit to coming out and protesting on their website. I don't see much coming out of it. I correctly said that the...
  • @216
    @Beckow

    In Sweden itself, the northern rural part of the country supports the socialist party the most. In Finland this isn't the case.

    In the US there isn't so much a "north/south divide" as there is an "urban/rural divide"

    With the exception of some rural parts of the Upper Midwest, and New England, rural whites are uniformly GOP.

    Wrt to Canada, while they've always been more economically interventionist than the US, Canada was in many ways more culturally conservative until the 1990s.

    If latitude is relevant, is New Zealand more "left" than Australia?

    Replies: @Blinky Bill, @128

    This can be explained by the fact that the Socialist party is perceived to be more financially generous to rural areas, while staying out of social issues, compared to the Moderates, who are perceived to favor wealthy urban residents, basically the Sweden socialists still run Joe Manchins and the Swedish version of blue dog democrats in the rural north.

  • There's not much to add now except that we are approaching the moment of maximum danger. (I noted that if it happens, it will probably happen sometime from late April to July). What I think essentially happened is that the Ukrainians wanted to do an Operation Storm on Donbass, which is why movements of military...
  • Ukraine has a lot of sources in the EU to sustain a guerilla war, unlike Xinjiang or during the 50s.

    • Agree: AP
  • @AP
    @reiner Tor

    Your comments are always great, welcome back.

    At this point I would suspect that Russia would have some trouble even in the most pro-Russian areas, such as Kharkiv; that city is the home base for the Azov organization. It would probably be scattered but deadly IRA style attacks, but still something. More serious guerrilla warfare and urban street fighting would probably be in limited to the west and center. But also remember that Ukraine does field some good special forces capable of operating behind enemy lines.

    Replies: @128, @Boomthorkell, @reiner Tor

    Russia did fairly well against drones in Syria and Libya, the Saudis are capable of dealing with Iranian drones too.

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
    @128

    Drones are weak Power cope.

    They'll eventually dominate aerial warfare, but that era is 20 years off.

  • How will guerilla warfare go in southwest Ukraine?

    • Replies: @Zimriel
    @128

    Southwest? Won't matter. Putin doesn't really want vast tracts of steppe and Polish frontier; he's got more than enough steppe, and frontier a-plenty in Central Asia and near China. Putin wants done with the headache. Putin's goal will be to annex Donbass (and to deal with those headaches appropriately) and to get some peaceable régime in the rest of Ukraine that won't bother him about it.

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @Boomthorkell
    @128

    Why would there be?

    There wasn't much guerilla warfare outside the Donbass when Ukraine's current government took over, so it's not like SW Ukraine will be up in arms over a new-old Russian government.

  • Ethiopia has long done quite well by Sub-Saharan African standards. It has a good record of human accomplishment, being the only country in the region to have developed a literary corpus before European colonialism. But it was, until recently, extremely poor. But no longer so after a decade of some of the highest growth rates...
  • @Thulean Friend
    @Vishnugupta


    It will again trail India this year.
     
    According to old projections. But now covid is spinning out of control in India.

    https://i.imgur.com/x7ej1O7.png

    Notably, Bangladesh managed to grow through the pandemic. India fell by almost 7%. Why would this year much different? Bangladesh will add to their lead.


    Its index of economic complexity is well below that of Pakistan

     

    Not really. 60% of Pakistan's merchandise exports is just cotton. Banglesh is overinvested in textiles but at least it is some form of industrialisation, albeit at a lower end. Much better than just exporting raw commodities.

    As for Islam not being so bad if you really are a Swede based in Sweden I think you will be treated to more cultural enrichment from this glorious religion than any other European country.
     
    Lol, that talking point is already several years behind its sell-by date. I'm still waiting for my mandatory jizya tax :)

    No, culture plays a more important role than religion. Indonesian moslems tend to be better behaved than Christian Arabs in my experience. Anyone who disagrees can be more than welcomed to visit Södertälje. Pre-2015 refugee crisis the vast majority of its MENA inhabitants were Christians. It didn't matter, their behaviour was similar as to their moslem compatriots.

    Albanians, "despite" being moslems, have integrated faster than Christian Africans in Sweden. This is especially the case for the second generation. You are Indian, so your world view is overly religious. But culture plays a more important role. Religion, of course, still matters (Serbs tend to integrate even faster than Albanians) but between the two, culture is a far stronger predictor.

    In general, I find your comments outside of engineering to be of low quality.

    Replies: @128

    I do not recall Arab Maronite Lebanese in the US or Latin America being prominent in strong-arm robbery, but YMMV.

  • @Thulean Friend
    @128


    Kenya’s economy is a crapshow, it is not even at the level or Indonesia, Nigeria, or Viet Nam.
     
    Kenya's not terrible. It's richer than Pakistan, though poorer than India.

    https://i.imgur.com/98VLaW2.png

    I suspect Kenya will pass Nigeria before too long. Vietnam is not even a fair comparison given that they are following in the path of Korea, Taiwan etc. Indonesia is not a fair comparison either. I've noted before that ASEAN is the last major region of the world that can still sustain high growth rates to at least ~$10,000 per capita income, without losing their currency in the process (like Turkey).

    I'm very skeptical of SSA, LatAM and MENA's potential. I am somewhat less skeptical of South Asia - India will likely get to where Mexico is and stay there, though with much lower crime and better food. India is also being much more aggressive on climate change early on, which will give rich dividends down the road. The major challenge is related to water stress, but I hope they can overcome it.

    I am less much less optimistic about Pakistan, but not for religious reasons. Bangladesh is now richer than India "despite" being moslem, so I think it has more to do with local culture than religion. The same reason why Islam in places like Indonesia tends to be much more mellow than in Arabia. In this regard, I think Vishnugupta's comments are colored by his lens as an Indian, he thinks of Islam from a Indian-Pakistani and to a lesser extent MENA context (Arabs have considerable influence on Indian moslems) and projects that to the rest of the world. If Islam was as horrible as he thinks, then Bangladesh would have remained poorer than India and Indonesia would have been poorer than the Philippines, let alone Vietnam.

    Local culture, rather than religion, plays the decisive role. Though religion plays some part.

    More generally, we should be careful in distinguishing broad-based economic convergence among developing countries (where I am a skeptic overall with partial exceptions) and technological progress (which is rapid and ongoing, though highly concentrated in the "Global North"). The two are not the same and should not be conflated.

    Replies: @Vishnugupta, @128, @Anatoly Karlin

    Mexico, Brazil, and Argentina are at the same level of development as Turkey, Chile and Uruguay is basically a Baltic state or Poland in terms of development, Indonesia’s growth of 5 percent is below par for its GDP per capita level. Venezuela is arguably at the same level of development as Poland or Turkey before Maduro, Peru, Ecuador, Paraguay, and Colombia are at the level of Thailand. Even the poorer Central American states like Guatemala and El Salvador have the same level of development as Indonesia.

    • Replies: @AP
    @128


    Mexico, Brazil, and Argentina are at the same level of development as Turkey, Chile
     
    No. Argentina (and Turkey, Chile) is significantly more developed than Brazil and Mexico.

    Uruguay is basically a Baltic state or Poland in terms of development
     
    Uruguay is less developed than Argentina. It’s between Turkey and Bulgaria. Argentina is between Croatia and Romania (more developed).

    Peru, Ecuador, Paraguay, and Colombia are at the level of Thailand

     

    Generally correct although Ecuador is a little lower.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index

    Replies: @Znzn

  • @Thulean Friend
    @china-russia-all-the-way


    There are three components of nominal growth. real growth + inflation + currency appreciation (or depreciation). I haven’t seen anyone put together a single chart that incorporates all three components of the top 10 fastest growing economies over a decade.
     
    That's a very valid point. I agree with you that such a list would be better than "real growth" given that "real growth" doesn't account for currency collapses. Turkey's growth rates in the 2010s were highly respectable - if you believe the official stats. Yet the lira sunk by a whopping 80%.

    It's one thing to have your currency swing from a year to the next, quite another for a sustained downward spiral. A country that cannot keep its currency stable shows that its growth model is deeply flawed. Better than stable would be an appreciating currency, like the Thai baht or the Vietnamese dong. Thailand's growth rates have been nothing to write home about - using the "real GDP" approach but when factoring in consistent currency appreciation then they look much, much better. Despite this, they still averaged a sizable current account surplus through the 2010s.

    FRED has a good indexing feature that makes the indexing to a particular year for numerous countries automatic, however they still use "real GDP" as a base. They are a bit better in that they use constant nominal prices rather than PPP, but it's still not quite sufficient. You could make a list by inference, by looking at changes in nominal GDP per capita with your own base year, but that work would be very tedious as you'd have to make ~200 calculations and then rank them accordingly.

    Replies: @128, @mal, @reiner Tor

    Ethiopia is landlocked.

  • The royal consort of the UK has died at age 99. An acerbic individual, here are a selection of Prince Philip's greatest hits, including his long-running wars against Tom Jones and Elton John, from a 2011 article in The Independent: 1. “Ghastly.” Prince Philip’s opinion of Beijing, during a 1986 tour of China. 2. “Ghastly.”...
  • @Art Deco
    @128

    Aside from banking and real estate, what else does Britain have as a basis for an economy? The French and Italians otudo the British in luxury goods, it does not have much mineral resources at competitive prices, and as a manufacturing hub Germany or even France makes more sense.

    Plenty of data on the distribution of value-added between sectors in Britain, courtesy the World Bank and the Office for National Statistics in London. (Luxury goods will almost certainly be a small sliver in any economy in a country with more than a six-digit population).

    Replies: @128

    I mean what can they do at competitive prices outside the EU? For example their coal reserves are priced out of the market, and their heavy industry is nowhere Germany’s.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @128

    I mean what can they do at competitive prices outside the EU? For example their coal reserves are priced out of the market, and their heavy industry is nowhere Germany’s.

    You can have a look at the direction of trade statistics. That tells you what they export and to where.

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  • @Thulean Friend
    https://twitter.com/K_G_Andersen/status/1382204543308492801

    Seems like the Danish masterrace is taking Paul Romer's ideas about mass-testing seriously. Large-scale vaccinations may not be enough if there are sufficiently strong mutations coming in from the third world where vaccination is sluggish. The Israelis are already reporting that the South African variant can break through the Pfizer vaccine, one shudders what happens when an even stronger mutation appears. Pfizer themselves have stated that making new jabs to deal with mutations shouldn't be a problem, but as always the issue is ramp up time, distribution efforts, implementation etc.

    As I've long argued: lockdowns are essentially an admission of failure. You only do it because you failed to do mass testing & tracing correctly, togther with universal mask usage. It is those three ingredients that spared most of East Asia. It is an astonishing dereliction of duty by Western countries that they are not doing universal mass testing at this stage. It is harder to do the other two, especially universal mask usage, as whitoids have proven themselves to be more primitive than East Asians in complying with simple actions to improve collective actions outcomes.

    Replies: @128, @Beckow

    Have you seen the type of people that post at this site? And the type of writers that write at this site? Well a large part of them anyway.

  • Ethiopia has long done quite well by Sub-Saharan African standards. It has a good record of human accomplishment, being the only country in the region to have developed a literary corpus before European colonialism. But it was, until recently, extremely poor. But no longer so after a decade of some of the highest growth rates...
  • @Boomthorkell
    @Caspar Von Everec

    I think that's his point though. Whether they can keep "improving/growing" after they reach the Kenyan-level. They are finally making the big early leaps (one chemical factory at a time!), but what follows after is probably not Germany or China.

    Replies: @128

    Kenya’s economy is a crapshow, it is not even at the level or Indonesia, Nigeria, or Viet Nam.

    • Replies: @Boomthorkell
    @128

    I always thought Vietnam was doing pretty well for itself. I would be impressed if any Black-Run African country (sans oil wealth) could manage Viet Nam standards. Honestly, I would be impressed if the Mediterranean Arab countries could either.

    , @Thulean Friend
    @128


    Kenya’s economy is a crapshow, it is not even at the level or Indonesia, Nigeria, or Viet Nam.
     
    Kenya's not terrible. It's richer than Pakistan, though poorer than India.

    https://i.imgur.com/98VLaW2.png

    I suspect Kenya will pass Nigeria before too long. Vietnam is not even a fair comparison given that they are following in the path of Korea, Taiwan etc. Indonesia is not a fair comparison either. I've noted before that ASEAN is the last major region of the world that can still sustain high growth rates to at least ~$10,000 per capita income, without losing their currency in the process (like Turkey).

    I'm very skeptical of SSA, LatAM and MENA's potential. I am somewhat less skeptical of South Asia - India will likely get to where Mexico is and stay there, though with much lower crime and better food. India is also being much more aggressive on climate change early on, which will give rich dividends down the road. The major challenge is related to water stress, but I hope they can overcome it.

    I am less much less optimistic about Pakistan, but not for religious reasons. Bangladesh is now richer than India "despite" being moslem, so I think it has more to do with local culture than religion. The same reason why Islam in places like Indonesia tends to be much more mellow than in Arabia. In this regard, I think Vishnugupta's comments are colored by his lens as an Indian, he thinks of Islam from a Indian-Pakistani and to a lesser extent MENA context (Arabs have considerable influence on Indian moslems) and projects that to the rest of the world. If Islam was as horrible as he thinks, then Bangladesh would have remained poorer than India and Indonesia would have been poorer than the Philippines, let alone Vietnam.

    Local culture, rather than religion, plays the decisive role. Though religion plays some part.

    More generally, we should be careful in distinguishing broad-based economic convergence among developing countries (where I am a skeptic overall with partial exceptions) and technological progress (which is rapid and ongoing, though highly concentrated in the "Global North"). The two are not the same and should not be conflated.

    Replies: @Vishnugupta, @128, @Anatoly Karlin

  • Anhy evidence that Ethiopias are more intelligent than Bangladeshis, Indonesians, or Sri Lankans?

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  • @Thulean Friend
    I've been reading up about the Myanmar crisis (the background to the 2021 coup and its repercussions). I have become extremely distrustful of Western media over the past decade. In its coverage, I never once felt I was being told even close to the full story, so I have been parsing together the shards from multiple one-the-ground sources (either in the country or in close proximity).

    The story goes something like this. The NED cut its fangs deep into the country for many decades. The main beneficiary of this support has been Aung San Suu Kyi. This could be surprising given the recent demonisation campaign of her, but this was likely a pressure tactic done to weaken her hand.

    The critical background is that containing China is much older than recent rhetoric would suggest, though the noise has merely escalated in recent years. Amazingly, The Guardian (!) carried an honest story reporting on US attempt of sabotage of a dam. The key factor was China's backing. This is the role that she has been playing for years and for which she was handsomely paid.

    Aung San Suu Kyi is an old Western asset, and she has been the recipient of US "NGO support" and dark money for many years. In addition, there are various ethnic militant groups that the US has funded and enabled. The Rohingya crisis some of you may remember was a policy of the US to stoke both sides. The outcome sought was to destabilise the country sufficiently so that any Chinese projects would become untenable.

    When Aung San Suu Kyi was in power, she did do a few deals with the Chinese, which is what may perplex outsiders. If she's an asset of the US, why would she do that? The simple answer is economic necessary. Myanmar is just as dependent on China economically speaking as Mexico is of the US. The inevitable gravity of China in that part of the world forces some kind of pragmatism. However, this pragmatism enraged the US, which is another reason why she was given the cold shoulder by her former patrons.

    The army perspective is almost impossible to come across. All their accounts have been deleted across US social media. I did managed to dig up a few statements from generals made in the early 2000s. They clearly made the point that if she and the ethnic guerillas that the US came to power, the country would descend into a Bosnian-style conflagration of the 1990s. This statement was prescient given the Rohingya crisis later on.

    The US fundamentally does not care about Myanmar. Nor does it think it can meaningfully shift the country to a loyal US puppet, given how close its economic links to China is. The goal is to destabilise it sufficiently by drumming up support among critical factions within it as to render it useless to Beijing, by perpetuating constant turmoil. If the Myanmar people are casualties, then so be it. In this sense, the playbook is similar to the one being played out in Syria, Venezuela or arguably even Ukraine.

    One last point. You often read in the Western press about "hundreds killed". The impression one gets is that the army is mowing down innocent protestors on the streets for the sake of it. What a lot of people don't appreciate is to just what an extent that the US has cultivated various ethnic groups inside the country and armed them to the teeth precisely for these kinds of eventualities. The army is in violent conflict with many of these.

    I do not think we will see a formal invasion of the US, into a country on the doorstep of China. But I do think we could potentially see every step leading up to that, but short of it, as in Syria. Myanmar allowed itself to be destabilised by letting groups like the NED, the NGO-industrial complex more broadly to proliferate for decades. That price for that lack of vigilance is coming home to roost.

    Replies: @Blinky Bill, @sher singh, @EldnahYm, @128, @128, @winnepeggreg

    The Tawmadaw’s perspective can be fairly easily seen just by doing a search on the net, no need for social media. Basically, they see themselves as the only guarantor of unity in the country, and the guarantor or Bamar primacy in Burmese society. Although the Tatmadaw has a substantial number of integrated ethnic minorities in its lower ranks. That said they should maybe considering leaving the handling of the economy to civilian experts.

  • As for the Tatmadaw, according to Wikipedia, they are the most capable fighting force in Southeast Asia, however you should have a hard time seeing this in their performance vs. the ethnic armed groups. One wonders how good they were vs. your regular Russian ground troops, or whether they have specially trained troops like the VDV. And the Tatmadaw sees to be doing a good job fo uniting the large part of the ethnic armed groups against them. Unlike Pinochet, Bolsonaro, the Turkish or Pakistan military, or even the Argentine junta, it seems that they do not have any base of support within the population,

  • @Thulean Friend
    I've been reading up about the Myanmar crisis (the background to the 2021 coup and its repercussions). I have become extremely distrustful of Western media over the past decade. In its coverage, I never once felt I was being told even close to the full story, so I have been parsing together the shards from multiple one-the-ground sources (either in the country or in close proximity).

    The story goes something like this. The NED cut its fangs deep into the country for many decades. The main beneficiary of this support has been Aung San Suu Kyi. This could be surprising given the recent demonisation campaign of her, but this was likely a pressure tactic done to weaken her hand.

    The critical background is that containing China is much older than recent rhetoric would suggest, though the noise has merely escalated in recent years. Amazingly, The Guardian (!) carried an honest story reporting on US attempt of sabotage of a dam. The key factor was China's backing. This is the role that she has been playing for years and for which she was handsomely paid.

    Aung San Suu Kyi is an old Western asset, and she has been the recipient of US "NGO support" and dark money for many years. In addition, there are various ethnic militant groups that the US has funded and enabled. The Rohingya crisis some of you may remember was a policy of the US to stoke both sides. The outcome sought was to destabilise the country sufficiently so that any Chinese projects would become untenable.

    When Aung San Suu Kyi was in power, she did do a few deals with the Chinese, which is what may perplex outsiders. If she's an asset of the US, why would she do that? The simple answer is economic necessary. Myanmar is just as dependent on China economically speaking as Mexico is of the US. The inevitable gravity of China in that part of the world forces some kind of pragmatism. However, this pragmatism enraged the US, which is another reason why she was given the cold shoulder by her former patrons.

    The army perspective is almost impossible to come across. All their accounts have been deleted across US social media. I did managed to dig up a few statements from generals made in the early 2000s. They clearly made the point that if she and the ethnic guerillas that the US came to power, the country would descend into a Bosnian-style conflagration of the 1990s. This statement was prescient given the Rohingya crisis later on.

    The US fundamentally does not care about Myanmar. Nor does it think it can meaningfully shift the country to a loyal US puppet, given how close its economic links to China is. The goal is to destabilise it sufficiently by drumming up support among critical factions within it as to render it useless to Beijing, by perpetuating constant turmoil. If the Myanmar people are casualties, then so be it. In this sense, the playbook is similar to the one being played out in Syria, Venezuela or arguably even Ukraine.

    One last point. You often read in the Western press about "hundreds killed". The impression one gets is that the army is mowing down innocent protestors on the streets for the sake of it. What a lot of people don't appreciate is to just what an extent that the US has cultivated various ethnic groups inside the country and armed them to the teeth precisely for these kinds of eventualities. The army is in violent conflict with many of these.

    I do not think we will see a formal invasion of the US, into a country on the doorstep of China. But I do think we could potentially see every step leading up to that, but short of it, as in Syria. Myanmar allowed itself to be destabilised by letting groups like the NED, the NGO-industrial complex more broadly to proliferate for decades. That price for that lack of vigilance is coming home to roost.

    Replies: @Blinky Bill, @sher singh, @EldnahYm, @128, @128, @winnepeggreg

    The Kachins, Karens, Was, and the Arakans (basically the most powerful armed groups) are supplied and protected to a certain extent by China, how do you think those groups can get heavy ordnance and small arms that almost matches qualitatively what the Tatmadaw has? How do you they are being supplied? But perhaps having OMON-style riot police to handle protesters in the big cities instead of giving the job to the military who are ill-suited for this role may be a good idea also.

  • The royal consort of the UK has died at age 99. An acerbic individual, here are a selection of Prince Philip's greatest hits, including his long-running wars against Tom Jones and Elton John, from a 2011 article in The Independent: 1. “Ghastly.” Prince Philip’s opinion of Beijing, during a 1986 tour of China. 2. “Ghastly.”...
  • Aside from banking and real estate, what else does Britain have as a basis for an economy? The French and Italians otudo the British in luxury goods, it does not have much mineral resources at competitive prices, and as a manufacturing hub Germany or even France makes more sense.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @128

    Aside from banking and real estate, what else does Britain have as a basis for an economy? The French and Italians otudo the British in luxury goods, it does not have much mineral resources at competitive prices, and as a manufacturing hub Germany or even France makes more sense.

    Plenty of data on the distribution of value-added between sectors in Britain, courtesy the World Bank and the Office for National Statistics in London. (Luxury goods will almost certainly be a small sliver in any economy in a country with more than a six-digit population).

    Replies: @128

    , @Mr. Anon
    @128


    Aside from banking and real estate, what else does Britain have as a basis for an economy?
     
    Tyranny and Oppression. They're World-beaters in that.

    Replies: @Art Deco

  • From the indispensable BioHackInfo: China’s new Criminal Code, which came into effect four weeks ago on March 1st, has a new section dedicated to ‘illegal medical practices’, which makes it a punishable crime to create gene-edited babies, human clones and animal-human chimeras. The new section is an amendment to Article 336 of China’s Criminal Law,...
  • The bulk of Han migration to the south happened during the later part of the Jin dynasty after the northern part was conquered by the Huns.

  • @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @AltanBakshi

    You bet!

    Pure meritocracy leads to gayness, factionalism and backstabiness. Having some warriors on top to bitchslap and keep the nerds in line tends to be a more stable solution.


    Qing was less meritocratic than Song or Ming, there was a system of ethnic quotas for Manchus and Mongols.

     

    Same for PRC. All the main civilian/military posts are reserved for Commie Party and especially Princelings.

    CCP is definitely a Northern dynasty or power unlike KMT.

     

    Yes, even though the founders are predominately Southern. It built up in Qin 秦during WWII with the backing of a Northern Empire, this time USSR. After Operation August Storm, the Soviets occupied Manchuria, Commies were able to move in faster.

    Whereas Generalissmo Chiang was hole up in Shu 蜀, the first Kingdom to go down in Three Kingdoms. After Soviets left they had to first go to Nanjing, then to Manchuria.

    It all makes sense if you can zoom into this map. The East Asian mainland is surrounded by sea to east, jungles to south, mountains to west, deserts to north, a world in itself.

    Qin sits high on the plateaus to the west of Central Plains, like an eagle. Its very difficult to attack Qin because it has to through a very narrow pass between high mountains, Tungkwan. But you can amass troops in Qin plateau and sweep down the northern plains.

    Whereas Shu, located in southwest Sichuan, is in a huge basin. Its very difficult also to attack the basin, as the Japs found. But also hard to launch offensives from out Shu.

    https://imgur.com/TMoKFUB

    Replies: @128

    Wrong century? And during that time Wu was basically a barely populated back country. There was virtually no one south of the Yangtze at that time.

  • @Yevardian
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Indians as a whole have the lowest human capital of any major population group except Africans, their entire history is one of repeated subjection to numerically tiny foreign elites. Say what you will about East-Asian risk-aversion, but at least they invented gunpowder, printing press and oceanic-capable ships in the first place, which you can't say for India. It has the advantages of sheer scale and nothing else.
    Pegging humanity's future on the last remaining caucasoid breeders, glory to greater Albania-Chechenia!

    Replies: @128, @Vishnugupta

    I think the Romans and Greeks invented them first (triremes were capable of surviving an Atlantic journey).

    • Replies: @songbird
    @128


    triremes were capable of surviving an Atlantic journey
     
    I really don't think it would work. Maybe, if you blocked up the holes and shortened it? But I think it would have just been better to use either a regular Roman sailing cargo ship, or, probably better, a Veneti design.
  • It strikes me that most of life's most exquisite comforts can be had with ~$10M or so. Apartment in the center of a world class city (luxury condo if in the Second World). Holiday home. Nice vacations and gourmet restaurants. Model-tier gf. ^ The virgin financial docs sleuthing to suggest Bad Orange Man isn't a...
  • @mal
    @Caspar von everec

    It will be near impossible to govern Mars from Earth. Two year launch period and any rocket needing to be like 99% fuel means no police or warship fleet from Earth will threaten you there.

    You will be living in domes underground, but you will not be required to wash black people feet or do whatever else woke religion will demand in the decades ahead.

    For a lot of people, personal dignity and psychological coherence will be worth trying to make a living as a mole. You will have to become mostly self sufficient first of course, but the type of people who go to Mars will be different from those who stay behind and likely easier to cooperate with.

    Think of Mars as a gated community with "really good schools". As in, genetic engineering will not just be welcomed on Mars, it will be a requirement for survival. Over time, Mars with genetically engineered Martians will become vastly more powerful than Earth. Just like American colonies become more powerful than European motherland.

    Replies: @128, @Caspar Von Everec, @Epigon

    The people most likely to go to Mars will be libertarians, who as a rule do not do social cooperation too well.

    • Replies: @mal
    @128

    They are good at geeky tech jobs though. Combine them with Trump voting trades people such as plumbers and electricians who by then will be hunted from helicopters in Diverse America, and you got yourself a decent human capital base for a colony.

    Replies: @Jim Christian

  • In 2015, I attempted to quantify the military power of the world's states with an index of Comprehensive Military Power. You can read the post, including the detailed methodology, here. Since then, its conclusions - broadly speaking, that China and Russia had about a third of US military power in the mid-2010s, while the next-tier...
  • I mean legacy NATO jets should be the equal of whatever 4th generation jets the Russians have.

  • 128 says:
    @Caspar Von Everec
    @reiner Tor

    Good points. I agree that its not an insurmountable obstacle.

    The Russian strategy seems to be an offensive defense. The solution is to attack NATO airbases and destroy them on the ground.

    I believe that's why Russia is developing the Khinzal missile. The Iskander-M and the Kinzhal are imo the most deadly Russian weapons. About 300-500 Kinzhals and Iskanders can probably destroy all NATO air assets and command posts in Eastern Europe and Germany. The Kinzhal has a range of 2000 km and a burnout speed of mach 9-11, this along with its ability to maneuver makes it nearly unstoppable.

    If it really has a CEP of 3 m then it can destroy NATO aircraft in hardened bunkers as well. If not, then it can still destroy control towers, fuel depots and ammuntion storage, and render these aircraft unusable. The Kalibir missile is highly capable as well and imo one of the best anti-ship and land attack cruise missiles out there.

    The question is whether Russia has so many missiles, and the issue of storage. A big cost missiles is storage. For example, the US left the Mujahideen in Afghanistan with thousands of stinger missiles yet they were unable to use any of them later on. Its because the heat seeking sensors deteriorate without maintenance and proper storage.

    Since Iskander and Kinzhal are solid fuel propelled missiles with inertial guidance and electro-optical targeting, I think it might be possible to store them in the thousands like Iran stores missiles in the thousands.

    Don't know how many cruise missiles the Russians have. Numbers range from 1400-2000.

    As for air defense, I think the sound strategy is to have a sort of defense in depth against the F-35s. Have a dense mesh of S-400s but keep most of their radars in passive mode. Scan the skies from afar with AWACS using low frequency radars. LFRs can detect stealth but they can't provide a targeting solution due to the low resolution.

    Ultimately the plan is probably to lure the F-35 within firing range of an S-400 battery. Since they'll be camouflaged and in passive mode, the F-35 will probably veer unaware into a firing spot. At about 50 km or so, the S-400 will be able to clearly see the F-35 and provide a firing solution.

    At that range, its practically impossible to escape active homing missiles travelling at mach 7 or more. The F-35 has low maneuverability to begin with. An S-300 could kill an F-35 this way as well.

    The S-400s chances will be greatly increased if it has an AESA radar with LPI characteristics. There are many conflicting claims on this regard, some say the S-400 does have AESA others say they it doesn't. However, the Nebro-M radar seems to be a major upgrade and the increased computational capacity facilitated by a large mobile ground radar will increase the odds.

    However, all these assume that the F-35s will be engaged in a deep strike behind Russian lines. The thing is that these strategies are not applicable close to the front lines. Over contested air space Russian Su-27 derivatives will be mauled by the F-35. Russian SAMS can provide cover some 30-50 km from the front lines. But scanning in active mode will render them vulnerable to attack by anti-radiation missiles and glide bombs.

    So the Russian air force will have to tightly follow the Russian army and not be able to project power any further. Russians will have to rely on their artillery.

    The F-35 is kind of like the Polish Hussars of the 17th century. The Russians were fine were as long as they stuck to their defenses and barricades, but as soon as they sallied out to fight them on open ground they'd be butchered.

    Though in fairness, similar fates befell Germans and Turks as well. The Hussars even mauled the Swedes repeatedly, the strongest army of that era.

    The Russians certainly have a plan but its better to have an aircraft capable of fighting the F-35 head on.

    Replies: @128

    There are always B-2s and F-22s if you really want to go all in, and people seem to be overly bearish on the F-35 just because it is American, and are discounting the fact that the Su-57 may turn out to be a Brewster Buffalo as well and does not work out as well as advertised, plus Hungary for instance has Grippens, Austria and Germany have Eurofighters and Tornados,Poland has F-16s and modernized MiG-29s, and Finland has F/A-18, all those are capable of giving Russian Su-27s, MiG-29s, and Su-30s a tough time.

    • Replies: @showmethereal
    @128

    You do realize that the numbers of B-2's and F-22's are very low right. There aren't even 50 B2's. There are less than 200 F22's. Both of those planes NEVER have all of them on the ready. They are very very high maintenance. Same with the F-35. So it will be mostly F16's and 15's and 18's doing most of the fighting. Don't discount the SU35...
    In any event - let's hope it never happens.

    Replies: @reiner Tor, @reiner Tor

  • Actually by 1973 they did not even need to send much ground troops, just financial, logistical, and air support would have been enough to keep South Viet Nam afloat, as the Easter Offensive shows.

    • Agree: reiner Tor
  • I know this will come as a shock to many of my regular readers, but I will nonetheless ask you to respect my new identity as a Black Trans Russian (#BTR, pronouns: she/her) and support me in my transition. You can do that verbally, or even better, financially. Those surgeries don't come cheap. Black Trans...
  • Time for a post on Myanmar? Interesting that China is basically arming both sides of the conflict, and has actually been sheltering and sponsoring the Kachin, the United Wa, the Arakan Army, and the Karen for the longest time, interesting considering its own problems with separatism.

  • In 2015, I attempted to quantify the military power of the world's states with an index of Comprehensive Military Power. You can read the post, including the detailed methodology, here. Since then, its conclusions - broadly speaking, that China and Russia had about a third of US military power in the mid-2010s, while the next-tier...
  • @last straw
    @rec1man


    There are only 4 sources of Jet Engines
    USA, UK, France and Russia
     
    China will be there within 2 years. WS-10A has been powering J-11B for a few years now and WS-10B is now powering J-10C. The TVC version was demonstrated in 2018. WS-10C may be used for J-20 as an interim engine soon. The high by-pass WS-20 is on trial with China's strategic air-transporter Y-20 right now.

    Replies: @128

    The news is that China is acquiring a Ukrainian jet engine maker because they can not come up with their own.

    • Replies: @last straw
    @128

    The deal has been blocked by the U.S. However, those who follow the Chinese aviation industry closely know that China will get there without this deal within 2 years. China already has AESA radar, first rate BVR missile PL-15, and China's military avionics are on par with western ones, although China will continue purchasing western engines and avionics for its commercial planes because of certification and international market requirements.

    , @antibeast
    @128

    China has been producing its own jet engines for years. The reason why China covets Motor Sich has to do with its small turbofan engine for cruise missiles which falls under the Missile Technology Control Regime of which Ukraine as a member but not China. Motor Sich's portfolio also includes large turbofan jet engines for civilian aircraft but not jet fighters.

    https://www.iiss.org/blogs/military-balance/2020/06/aeroengine-concerns-ukraine-us-china

  • @songbird
    @Daniel Chieh

    I've wondered if the decline in testosterone might have afflicted peoples differently. For example, perhaps the physiological basis of ethnocentrism in Europeans is more dependent on testosterone than that of other groups.

    But I think neo-Confucianism only goes so far. First, there is dysgenics and demographic collapse which is diminishing China's traditional competitive environment.

    Then, one can make a comparison to Germany. Traditionally-speaking, Germany is geared very differently in education to America - it is very track and test dependent. The same amount of money is not thrown into higher education. The people who go to higher education are a much lesser percentage, and the average IQ in university students is likely higher than in America. Yet, it would be difficult to find a more cucked country.

    Replies: @128, @Daniel Chieh

    If you want to utilize high human capital women, you have to give them high education, up to post-graduate, otherwise having them as at home taking care of the family is maybe just wasting their IQ, but then if you do that their fertility rate drops like a rock.

    • Replies: @Andy Horton
    @128

    “high human capital women”

    Thanks for the laugh.

  • Do we have any real world reviews as to how well the newest Chinese weapons for export like the JF-17 work? I have difficulty finding reports in English.

    • Replies: @Vendetta
    @128

    Here’s a JF-17 pilot interview:
    https://hushkit.net/2019/07/19/flying-fighting-in-the-jf-17-thunder-interview-with-pakistan-air-force-fighter-pilot/

    No one has really taken the latest generation of Chinese equipment to war yet, we won’t know for sure how well it performs in the field until that happens.

    That said, the JF-17 seems to be quite handy in its intended role as a low-budget, lightweight fighter for countries that can’t afford to buy top-of-the line jets. It’s very cheap to acquire and operate, and it has very low maintenance requirements (and thus excellent operational availabity). It outperforms legacy jets like the MiG-21 and the Mirage and has access to more modern munitions and radars, thus making it an excellent candidate to replace these old jets in other air forces as it did in Pakistan (many third world countries still rely on them).

  • @22pp22
    @AP

    All the Taliban have to do is not lose and they win.

    Here, perceptions count. The moment the US puppet regime falls, the US will be perceived as a defeated power, and more importantly, it will perceive itself as a defeated power. They have invested too much in victory.

    Victory over Japan and Germany meant the creation of client states that controlled their national territory. For "the most powerful military in the world" to be unable to finish off a bunch of low-IQ barbarians is slowly, and very obviously, chipping away at America's sense of self-worth.

    I am 56. I remember visiting the US with my parents before my father "came out" as a woman. We were vacationing in Hawaii when Saigon fell. The other hotel guests looked like they had had the life kicked out of them, but they still had more self-belief then that Americans do now.

    Replies: @128, @BB753

    Well they could win in Afghanistan if they were willing to apply Roman or Mongol methods of counterinsurgency, but then even the Soviets were not willing to do this.

  • Plus the F-15C, the F-4G, and the F-16C was equal of superior to anything the Soviets had in 1990. The M2 Bradley was more than a match for the BMP and BTR series.

    • Replies: @Vishnugupta
    @128

    In 1990 the USAF F 16/F 15 wouldn't fare well against the USSR Mig 29/Su 27 armed with the R73 Archer which gave them off boresight engagement capabilities.Something the USAF would only acquire in the 2000s with the AIM 9X.

    The Luftwaffe's Mig 29s had something like a 10:1 kill ratio against the USAF's F 16s in WVR combat exercises.

    If we are talking 1990 BVR means Sparrow vs R 27 so fairly evenly matched.

  • Actually in Europe, NATO would likely get a draw in a conventional war with the Warsaw Pact by the mid-80s, and had an advantage in conventional warfare by 1989/1990. Most M1s and Leopard 2s were upgraded to M1A1s and Leopard 2A4s by 1989/1990.

  • @Caspar Von Everec
    @Znzn

    India wouldn't be that big of an issue honestly. It would be like the Italian front of ww1. The entire Indo-Chinese border is inhospitable himalayas ridge. No offensive can break through it.

    The Chinese can however easily overrun the seven sister provinces of India in the East.

    Japan would be a deadly foe however. It has a phenomenal fleet and a capable air force.

    Replies: @Rahan, @InnerCynic, @128

    I read in a military forum that the JGSDF is still doing frontal attacks in exercises as if the year was 1917.

    • Replies: @Caspar Von Everec
    @128

    The Japanese were the first Air force to introduce AESA radars. Russia still hasn't manage to field a combat aircraft with AESA radars 20 years after Japan introduced them. They're still running the vintage cold war aircraft like Su-27 derivatives

    Replies: @reiner Tor, @The Wild Geese Howard

  • I mean for example, Indonesia, Malaysia, and the Philippines may see no point in having a blue water navy, and just a navy good enough to secure its claims in the Spratly’s, and that suits them just fine. They may not see that point for tanker aircraft like 767s either. Countries like Colombia with COIN issues may only have a few conventional warplanes, with the bulk of their assets geared for COIN operations, in fact Mexico does not have main battle tanks or fighter jets. And Central American countries have defence budgets running in the 0.2 to 0.3 percent of GDP range, which is enough for maintaining internal security.

  • @Max Payne
    I guess if its bean counting hard weapon system assets.....

    Does Saudi Arabia deserve to be number 8? Does it count when foreign mercenaries man advanced weapon systems for the dumb-dumb kingdom? Or when ABM systems can't stop drones from the poorest Arab nation.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-yemen-security-saudi/yemens-houthis-warn-of-stronger-attacks-after-drone-strikes-on-saudi-arabia-idUSKBN2BI184

    Israel could demolish Saudi Arabia in number of assets alone. Don't assume because both countries buy F-16s that they are the same variants. You can guess which side gets the full-stock models and which side gets the export variant.

    Even if you factor population willingness for war... Gulf arabs are the most cowardly of the bunch. Did you get a cheque from the Saudi embassy in Moscow ir something?

    Replies: @128, @Anatoly Karlin

    A more granular and detailed CMP with multiple indicators or dashboards may be better (if that is not too much to do).

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    @128

    And for $39.99/month, I'm sure that might be possible.

    https://www.patreon.com/akarlin

  • @JosephB
    @Mr. XYZ


    It’s quite interesting–do you think that Russia could have ever been brought into the Western bloc, Anatoly?
     
    I'm not Anatoly, but will take a stab at it: yes. Aside from the war on terror, Bush's biggest failing was not securing a deal with Russia. There was a ton to be gained on both sides, as Russia was also struggling with Islamic terrorism during that time. An agreement where Russia and US shared intelligence on terrorists, perhaps even with some sharing of bases would have made a ton of sense. I waited and waited, sure that something was brewing in the background.

    Then in circa 2006 there was a WSJ op-ed by a Russian elder statesman. I forget the name, but it was someone I recognized. He said he was baffled that the US was prosecuting a war on terror without trying to involve Russia. He saw several ways the two countries should be working together, but someone from the US needed to make the case. Russia was waiting, but the window was closing. It looks like Bush was still fighting the cold war.

    There was our chance to forge close ties with Russia, and declare that in the 21st century we had a common enemy. Heck, we probably could have gotten China and India involved as well. Muslim terrorists have managed to piss off a lot of people. Sadly, it was not to be.

    If I sound upset, it was because this line of reasoning occurred to me within ~60 seconds of people saying Iraq was going to be another Vietnam. It seemed obvious that we wouldn't be fighting another superpower in a proxy war, and could even get the regional powers on our side.

    Replies: @128, @AltanBakshi, @Tor597

    Forgot what year that was. But there was a lot of ill will generated in the Western media by the jailing of Khordokovsky and the takeover of Yukos by Putin cronies, plus the takeover of NTV and Echo of Moscow. Prior to that opinions on Russia were largely neutral to sometimes the butt of jokes, to a sense of pity over the bad 90s for Russia. Other than that, the biggest foreign policy issue in the early to mid-2000s was Russian opposition to American plans for missile defense, which also rubbed Americans the wrong way.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    @128

    The missile defense was something the Russians wanted to get involved themselves, but the Americans kept rejecting their proposals. This led to increasing Russian frustration and opposition to the whole thing. Eventually the Americans came out around 2006 or 2007 that they wanted Georgia and Ukraine in NATO.

    There was already a history of NATO expansion despite increasing Russian opposition, and in 1999 the Yugoslav bombings and then in 2007 the Kosovo Declaration of Independence recognized by most major western powers. The loud western support for the Ukrainian Orange Revolution wasn’t popular in Moscow either.

    So basically the Russians were not involved in the war on terror, they were left out of the missile defense increasing their suspicions, and then there was a history of American efforts to include formerly Russian clients in the American sphere of interest, including a literal war of aggression. Of course they became suspicious and started to oppose any American initiatives which could be used against them.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Gerard-Mandela

  • @Almost Missouri
    @128


    That seems to indicate that the Battle of France would have been a lot harder than it did in OTL?
     
    It does seem that way. But then, that was also the judgement of just about everyone on the scene at the time: that France was a peer military to Germany. You could say that those judgments (and Karlin's CMP) were not wrong, it's just that Germany's rapid victory over France in 1940 was something of a coup against reality (perhaps abetted by contemporary French military incompetence). Your CMP matters less if you use it wrong.

    Keeping in mind that France and Britain can basically bring every man they can get across to the Franco Belgian region, while Germany can not divert its entire army to the West.
     
    Au contraire, France and even more so Britain had huge colonial empires to police. Germany, having been deprived of it's meager overseas colonies after WWI, didn't have this handicap. I forget the figures exactly, but I think only about half of France's army was available to defend the northern frontier. And the British Expeditionary Force was only about a tenth the size of the French force. We hear about the BEF a lot in the Anglosphere for obvious reasons, but it was not so significant militarily.

    By contrast, Germany could concentrate most of its military into this offensive. The invasion of Poland (with the Non-Aggression-Pacted USSR) was already won, so Germany only needed to leave a few second-rate garrison/pacification troops in the east.

    Also, it's often forgotten today, that Italy invaded France from the southeast at the same time.

    Replies: @128, @128

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_France

    Numbers of Allied and German troops were equal, the French had a lot more tanks and more artillery, the Germans had a lot more planes. The French tanks getting to Bulson ridge a few minutes sooner could have saved the whole thing.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @128


    Numbers of Allied and German troops were equal
     
    True, but they weren't equally deployed.

    From that wiki article:

    Germany had mobilised 4,200,000 men of the Heer (German Army) .... When consideration is made for those in Poland, Denmark and Norway, the Army had 3,000,000 men available for the offensive on 10 May 1940.

    ...

    France mobilised about one-third of the male population..., bringing the strength of its armed forces to 5,000,000. Only 2,240,000 of these served in army units in the north.
     
    So 4.2m German soldiers vs. 5.0m French soldiers, but 3.0m Germans vs. 2.2m French in the theater of battle. = 71% German concentration vs. 44% French concentration.
  • @Almost Missouri
    @128


    That seems to indicate that the Battle of France would have been a lot harder than it did in OTL?
     
    It does seem that way. But then, that was also the judgement of just about everyone on the scene at the time: that France was a peer military to Germany. You could say that those judgments (and Karlin's CMP) were not wrong, it's just that Germany's rapid victory over France in 1940 was something of a coup against reality (perhaps abetted by contemporary French military incompetence). Your CMP matters less if you use it wrong.

    Keeping in mind that France and Britain can basically bring every man they can get across to the Franco Belgian region, while Germany can not divert its entire army to the West.
     
    Au contraire, France and even more so Britain had huge colonial empires to police. Germany, having been deprived of it's meager overseas colonies after WWI, didn't have this handicap. I forget the figures exactly, but I think only about half of France's army was available to defend the northern frontier. And the British Expeditionary Force was only about a tenth the size of the French force. We hear about the BEF a lot in the Anglosphere for obvious reasons, but it was not so significant militarily.

    By contrast, Germany could concentrate most of its military into this offensive. The invasion of Poland (with the Non-Aggression-Pacted USSR) was already won, so Germany only needed to leave a few second-rate garrison/pacification troops in the east.

    Also, it's often forgotten today, that Italy invaded France from the southeast at the same time.

    Replies: @128, @128

    France had more tanks and better tanks than Germany, which had more aircraft than Britain and France in France and Belgium.

  • Has anybody heard of the Free French Forces per chance?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_France#Campaigns_in_France_and_Germany_1944%E2%80%931945

    Campaigns in France and Germany 1944–1945
    Main articles: Allied advance from Paris to the Rhine and Western Allied invasion of Germany
    By September 1944, the Free French forces stood at 560,000 (including 176,500 White French from North Africa, 63,000 metropolitan French, 233,000 Maghrebis and 80,000 from Black Africa).[92][93] The GPRF set about raising new troops to participate in the advance to the Rhine and the invasion of Germany, using the FFI as military cadres and manpower pools of experienced fighters to allow a very large and rapid expansion of the French Liberation Army. It was well equipped and well supplied despite the economic disruption brought by the occupation thanks to Lend-Lease, and their number rose to 1 million by the end of the year. French forces were fighting in Alsace-Lorraine, the Alps, and besieging the heavily fortified French Atlantic coast submarine bases that remained Hitler-mandated stay-behind “fortresses” in ports along the Atlantic coast like La Rochelle and Saint-Nazaire until the German capitulation in May 1945.

    Also in September 1944, the Allies having outrun their logistic tail (the “Red Ball Express”), the front stabilised along Belgium’s northern and eastern borders and in Lorraine. From then on it moved at a slower pace, first to the Siegfried Line and then in the early months of 1945 to the Rhine in increments. For instance, the Ist Corps seized the Belfort Gap in a coup de main offensive in November 1944, their German opponents believing they had entrenched for the winter.

    A plaque commemorating the Oath of Kufra in near the cathedral of Strasbourg
    The French 2nd Armoured Division, tip of the spear of the Free French forces that had participated in the Normandy Campaign and liberated Paris, went on to liberate Strasbourg on 23 November 1944, thus fulfilling the Oath of Kufra made by its commanding officer General Leclerc almost four years earlier. The unit under his command, barely above company size when it had captured the Italian fort, had grown into a full-strength armoured division.

    The spearhead of the Free French First Army that had landed in Provence was the Ist Corps. Its leading unit, the French 1st Armoured Division, was the first Western Allied unit to reach the Rhône (25 August 1944), the Rhine (19 November 1944) and the Danube (21 April 1945). On 22 April 1945, it captured Sigmaringen in Baden-Württemberg, where the last Vichy regime exiles, including Marshal Pétain, were hosted by the Germans in one of the ancestral castles of the Hohenzollern dynasty.

    They participated in stopping Operation Nordwind, the very last German major offensive on the western front in January 1945, and in collapsing the Colmar Pocket in January–February 1945, capturing and destroying most of the German XIXth Army. Operations by the First Army in April 1945 encircled and captured the German XVIII SS Corps in the Black Forest, and cleared and occupied south-western Germany. At the end of the war, the motto of the French First Army was Rhin et Danube, referring to the two great German rivers that it had reached and crossed during its combat operations.

    In May 1945, by the end of the war in Europe, the Free French forces comprised 1,300,000 personnel, and included around forty divisions making it the fourth largest Allied army in Europe behind the Soviet Union, the US and Britain.[94] The GPRF sent an expeditionary force to the Pacific to retake French Indochina from the Japanese, but Japan surrendered before they could arrive in theatre.

    At that time, General Alphonse Juin was the chief of staff of the French army, but it was General François Sevez who represented France at Reims on 7 May, while General Jean de Lattre de Tassigny led the French delegation at Berlin on V-E day, as he was the commander of the French First Army. At the Yalta Conference, Germany had been divided into Soviet, American and British occupation zones, but France was then given an occupation zone in Germany, as well as in Austria and in the city of Berlin. It was not only the role that France played in the war which was recognised, but its important strategic position and significance in the Cold War as a major democratic, capitalist nation of Western Europe in holding back the influence of communism on the continent.

    Approximately 58,000 men were killed fighting in the Free French forces between 1940 and 1945.[95]

    And de Tassigny was as good as any Allied general in Europe during the 1944-1945 period, plus any analysis of nation strenghts would have to be granular in nature, and would have to take into account the relative strenghts of each branch of the armed forces by country, or even down to the unit level (maybe too much work?) per theather, and per sector of the theater. And by January of 1945 after the Battle of the Bulge, the Germans were basically moribund anyway.

  • I read somewhere that the reason why the West did not develop supersonic SSMs is the belief that supersonic SSMs are less maneuverable than subsonic SSMs, thus negating their speed advantage. If you believe that the Americans are pozzed, therefore they can not reason properly, you can ask the French. Chinese troops by the summer of 1945 were actually quite effective against the Japanese, which had zero power projection or ability to maneuver or supply its armies by this time so to speak.

  • Prior 1940, Gamelin was actually very well regarded even by the Germans. By the time of Okinawa, the Japanese fleet was basically moribund, even even by the time of Iow Jima.

  • Also even with the losses at Pearl Harbor, the US Navy arguably still had a counteroffensive capability equal to that of the IJN, and 90 percent of Japan’s army was in the Asian mainland, leaving only some divisions for the Centrifugal offensive. In defence of the Breda plan, if the Allies wanted to keep Belgium, then Antwerp and the area around it must be kept open.

  • That seems to indicate that the Battle of France would have been a lot harder than it did in OTL? If you add the score of France and Britain vs. Germany. Keeping in mind that France and Britain can basically bring every man they can get across to the Franco Belgian region, while Germany can not divert its entire army to the West. I recall that a lot of military people rated France as having the strongest army in Europe in 1940.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @128


    That seems to indicate that the Battle of France would have been a lot harder than it did in OTL?
     
    It does seem that way. But then, that was also the judgement of just about everyone on the scene at the time: that France was a peer military to Germany. You could say that those judgments (and Karlin's CMP) were not wrong, it's just that Germany's rapid victory over France in 1940 was something of a coup against reality (perhaps abetted by contemporary French military incompetence). Your CMP matters less if you use it wrong.

    Keeping in mind that France and Britain can basically bring every man they can get across to the Franco Belgian region, while Germany can not divert its entire army to the West.
     
    Au contraire, France and even more so Britain had huge colonial empires to police. Germany, having been deprived of it's meager overseas colonies after WWI, didn't have this handicap. I forget the figures exactly, but I think only about half of France's army was available to defend the northern frontier. And the British Expeditionary Force was only about a tenth the size of the French force. We hear about the BEF a lot in the Anglosphere for obvious reasons, but it was not so significant militarily.

    By contrast, Germany could concentrate most of its military into this offensive. The invasion of Poland (with the Non-Aggression-Pacted USSR) was already won, so Germany only needed to leave a few second-rate garrison/pacification troops in the east.

    Also, it's often forgotten today, that Italy invaded France from the southeast at the same time.

    Replies: @128, @128

    , @Wency
    @128

    The Battle of France strikes me as a huge problem in any sort of analysis like this. Perhaps CMP ought to be thought of more like a handicap in a game of chess. CMP tells you how good your pieces are, but its ability is limited to indicate how well you'll use them, even if it tries to factor in things like certain countries tending to have better doctrine. Not to mention, unlike chess, how big a factor luck can be, or the role of chaos: there are mechanisms in war whereby a single minor tactical mistake can cascade into national collapse. "All for the want of a nail."

    Even accounting for Germany's better doctrine and all-around military effectiveness, it very easily could have used its pieces more poorly than it did. There were major revisions to its plans for invading France up to a few months before the invasion commenced, and the German generals themselves were surprised how well things went. Any sort of error there could have led to a war that looked more like the war the Anglo-French were expecting to fight, a slugfest in which CMP is all that matters.

    , @Boomthorkell
    @128

    An important factor here that is not calculated, justifiably, in CMP that influenced the outcome of the German invasion of France is simple politics. Much of the French military elite were Fascist (in the actual, historical sense) and were not terribly fond of Republican corruption (as they saw it.) They preferred the (Nazi) Germans, misguided or not, and so deliberately fumbled the defense. Poland, whose military was not compromised, put up a much better per capita fight.

    So, between a loyal military with low CMP (Poland), and a disloyal, collaborationist military with high or comparable CMP, one is going to lose either way, ha ha ha.

    Replies: @reiner Tor

    , @rkka
    @128

    The Dyle plan stuck the best French mech forces & the BEF in a noose, while 7 pz divisions hitting Corap's 9th Army at the exits to the Ardennes, lacking AA & AT artillery, pulled it tight.

    The Manstein plan could not have been better served by the Dyle plan, the perfect combination to ensure rapid Anglo-French defeat in '40. The Germans got stone lucky.

    That said, they probably would have won eventually, due to their superior doctrine/comms & the ability to precisely mass aerial & artillery fires that gave them, but it woulda taken a lot longer & cost a lot more, maybe enough to delay Barbarossa until '42.

  • It's quite amusing that, read in the wrong (right?) light, this basically comes off as a paean to White Supremacy. It's the ultimate humblebrag. I think there's quite a lot of truth to this thesis of The Unbearable Lightness of White Supremacy. Regardless of which White faction "wins" this civil war, the power structure itself...
  • @reiner Tor
    @Anatoly Karlin

    The first remark I’d make is that Jews are, in a sense, not that special. Any minority group excluded from political power will resent being excluded and will support outsiders, conquerors, revolutions, whatnot. It’s a human universal. The Romanian Communist Party in the 1930s had a number of ethnic Hungarian leaders (besides the usual Jews). The Hungarian communist party, in contrast, had Jewish and (to a smaller extent) ethnically German leadership. The ethnically Hungarian leaders were oddities, like Kádár, the later Hungarian general secretary, was born to a half-Slovak maid in Fiume, a largely Italian city, as a bastard child of a Hungarian soldier who he first met when he was already 48 years old and a dictator. He then grew up in great poverty (and being much smarter than most of his peers in poverty, he must’ve resented it a lot). Such people were bound to harbor resentment against the political system and society at large the same way ethnic minorities were resentful against the oppressive rule of the ethnic majority, and were likely to join utopian political movements.

    Jews were only different for two reasons. One is their higher ethnocentrism and their culture already geared towards loathing the ethnic majority and its traditions. The other is their higher intelligence and organizational abilities, which make their role indispensable for those utopian movements, including wokeness.

    When Lenin (25% Jewish, 0% Latvian) died, there were four leaders who eventually fought it out among themselves to replace him: Trotsky (100% Jewish, 0% Latvian), Stalin (100% Caucasian, probably all Georgian, 0% Latvian), Zinoviev (100% Jewish, 0% Latvian), and Kamenev (50% Jewish, 0% Latvian). By my count this is a group over 60% Jewish and just 0% Latvian. The proportion increases if you take wives into account.

    As to the Latvian vote, it was obviously a protest vote for the only political party which promised Latvia the right of secession. If Russia was a province of the Chinese Empire, would you vote for Mao Zedong if he was the only one to promise Russian independence?

    I think that while the Latvian role in the Bolshevik Revolution is a good retort to Latvian arguments about evil Russia, and it’s interesting to an extent, constantly bringing it up comes off as butthurt. Especially given how much bigger and stronger Russia is than Latvia, it really looks disproportionate.

    Replies: @Svidomyatheart, @John Gruskos, @128

    How about having a market dominant minority that is also interested in participating in politics in not a very good thing? I mean the Chinese in South East Asia, traditionally concentrate only on making money, but stay out of politics, because they think it is a very dirty business they do not want to engage in, plus they do not want to draw more attention to themselves by being prominent in politics, instead they just try to befriend friendly politicians, instead of taking sides in political questions. And politicians in South East Asia, like Suharto and Hun Sen, tends to be friendly to anyone who is willing to support them with funds. And overseas Chinese tend to be not deficient in verbal IQ if the competition are native South East Asians.

  • And General Marshall did promise to reinforce Bataan to MacArthur.

  • @songbird
    @128

    When the Japs were landing, they came under fire from one machine gun, until it jammed. Their landing was practically unopposed, even though it was fairly predictable where they would try to land.

    MacArthur allowed the planes at Clarke Air Base to be clustered together, against the threat of sabotage.


    MacArthur did quite well in Bataan later on
     
    He didn't lay in the supplies, even though he had ample opportunity and was advised to do so.

    where the terrain favored him
     
    Bataan was kind of malarial. I'm not sure that it made sense to bring in as many troops as he did, especially when he didn't lay in supplies.

    Replies: @128

    Fighting it out in Bataan is better than a Stalingrad in Manila with the same result.

  • @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Caspar Von Everec

    First mistake by French was giving Germans strategic initiative.

    Mansteinplan was high risk high reward. The execution of Guderian, Rommel, et al was even riskier as after Ardennes breakthrough, their spearhead could have easily been cut off.

    Better lucky than good. The French also had internal dissension between right wing and commies.

    But Germans luck ran out in Russia first by delaying Barbarossa to bail out the Italians in Balkans. Then running into autumn mud season, then Stalins best generals January and February without winter gear.

    In second part of Ostfront, Soviet generals really stepped up their game. It was not a foregone conclusion that Wehrmacht would get totally rolled back. After 3rd Battle of Kharkov they never again made the mistake of over-extending.

    Replies: @128, @reiner Tor

    Weygand instead of Gamelin taking charge would have helped much. Or having the category A units west of Sedan be better positioned, for have the French DCR arrive at Bulson a few minutes earlier.

    • Replies: @Sin City Milla
    @128

    This was a symptom of a larger disease, like the Maginot line or the failure to push their invasion of Germany in September 1939. As Petain said France was defeated not by the Germans but by the "rot of Marxism." Russia experienced it. Now the US too has this to look forward to.

  • OK maybe people should look at the Egyptian’s role in European history.

  • @songbird
    @128


    I mean anyone who has a decent knowledge of military tactics would find it hard to seriously mess up a defence
     
    Is this really true?

    MacArthur's father was an army captain. Douglas was valedictorian of a military institute, and graduated first in his class at Westpoint, having the 3rd highest score ever, at that time.

    And there are many more instances like that.

    Replies: @128

    MacArthur and Percival had raw troops, vs. veteran Japs, MacArthur did quite well in Bataan later on, , where the terrain favored him, and the retreat from Lingayen and Lamon Bay, past Manila, to Bataan, was generally well carried out. As for Singapore, Percival choosing the Northeast quadrant as the likely and logical place of attack and the main axis of expected advance was quite reasonable, since it had the most favorable terrain for an attacking force, and an advance there would carry an attacking force straight into Singapore. And the British C and C system was not that good all throughout the campaign. Plus Percival did not have enough men to cover all possible axes of advance, since a large part of his forces in Singapore were rear area troops. And the British lost control of the air by that time.

    A lot of this is really down to a commander’s gut feel rather than logic or intelligence, and for all that the French did well at Gembloux where they were expecting the main German effort. If the French had just gotten a little bit sooner at Bulson ridge then they could have taken the German bridgehead at the rear in Sedan.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @128

    When the Japs were landing, they came under fire from one machine gun, until it jammed. Their landing was practically unopposed, even though it was fairly predictable where they would try to land.

    MacArthur allowed the planes at Clarke Air Base to be clustered together, against the threat of sabotage.


    MacArthur did quite well in Bataan later on
     
    He didn't lay in the supplies, even though he had ample opportunity and was advised to do so.

    where the terrain favored him
     
    Bataan was kind of malarial. I'm not sure that it made sense to bring in as many troops as he did, especially when he didn't lay in supplies.

    Replies: @128

  • The Japanese at Guadalcanal seem to not know what the term outflanking maneuver means.

  • I mean anyone who has a decent knowledge of military tactics would find it hard to seriously mess up a defence, attacking is a lot harder.

    • Replies: @Not Only Wrathful
    @128

    What are you taking about? Anyone with a reasonable knowledge of military strategy would choose to attack. You may need a higher force ratio, but, because you have the initiative, you can concentrate your force at the enemy's weak points. You have betrayed your complete ignorance lol

    , @songbird
    @128


    I mean anyone who has a decent knowledge of military tactics would find it hard to seriously mess up a defence
     
    Is this really true?

    MacArthur's father was an army captain. Douglas was valedictorian of a military institute, and graduated first in his class at Westpoint, having the 3rd highest score ever, at that time.

    And there are many more instances like that.

    Replies: @128

  • @Caspar Von Everec
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    True. The Japanese army was qualitatively superior to the Soviets and perhaps even the Americans. They were very well led and incredibly fanatical and professional. But they lacked heavy equipment. No Japanese tank or artillery could put a dent in the T-34s and their ww1-era guns stood no chance before 105 mm soviet guns

    Replies: @128, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Any proof of this? Perhaps in 1941 to 1H 1942, but definitely not thereafter, they were only good in defense and digging tunnels and bunkers, basically that was it. But then anyone with more than a basic knowledge of military tactics would with it any to seriously mess up defence, but of course being a clairvoyant and knowing everything that the enemy will do is not possible.

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2010/06/09/who-was-the-tougher-world-war-ii-enemy-the-germans-or-the-japanese/

  • What are the list of things that would get you cancelled in Russia? As an aside, what percentage of Sweden’s male fighting age population was mobilized at any one time in the year 1700? in the 80s the Swedish had plans to mobilize 10 percent of its population in wartime.

  • I mean compare Baltic Germans to Jews, they also made as much contributions, while causing only a fraction of the political problems in Russia that Jews did. I mean the Russian Empire would rather have Baltic Germans as an elite rather than Jews, maybe all things considering.

  • Who made up an overwhelming bulk of the conscripts of the Red Army in the Russian civil war? Probably Russians and other Slavs as well?

  • Interesting links. (1) Len Sassaman and Satoshi: a Cypherpunk History. This is, I think, the strongest case for someone being Satoshi that I have read to date. All I can say is that IF it was him, he played the double act VERY well. (2) Gregoire Canlorbe (Postil Magazine) - A conversation with Emil O.W....
  • If Jews never got to the West or to Europe other than in very very very tiny numbers (for whatever reason), what groups would see the most gains in terms of term output as they take up the slack? French? Germans? Britons? Italians would be even more influential in the 16th century? As for eastern Europe, Baltic Germans would be even more dominant in Russia if Jews were not around. Note that Episcopalian whites ( a nice proxy for upper class Northern Europeans) have a slightly higher IQ than Jews, although the personality tends to be more agreeable and less argumentative.

  • The blockage of the Suez Canal and the 12% of world cargo trade (1 billion tons of cargo per year) that flows through it raises the profile of an obvious and much shorter alternative that global warming is making increasingly attractive. Arctic sea ice continues to retreat at a very rapid clip (currently running below...
  • Because your average commercial crew vessel can maintain a nuclear reactor, or for Maersk pay 200000 USD on average per crew a year just to get the right people for your container ship’s nuclear reactor maintenance.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @128

    I assume it would be maintenance-free. Sealed, like the ones that the Japanese were talking about building and burying in the ground, under streets.

  • Interesting links. (1) Len Sassaman and Satoshi: a Cypherpunk History. This is, I think, the strongest case for someone being Satoshi that I have read to date. All I can say is that IF it was him, he played the double act VERY well. (2) Gregoire Canlorbe (Postil Magazine) - A conversation with Emil O.W....
  • As cryptocurrencies come into wider usage, they will come into the same reporting necessities as regular currencies for things like anti-money laundering, terrorist financing etc.

  • So what are the chances that GM will pull out of Russia, or the Hilton Hotel Leningradskaya or Mariott Grand Aurora gets a name change? Are there any 4 or 5 star domestic hotel chains? All of the luxury hotel chains in Russia seems to be foreign like Sokos, Hilton, or Le Meridien.

    • Replies: @Philip Owen
    @128

    GM has pulled out of Russia.

    I've done a lot of work on hotels in Russia. There are no real hotel chains in Russia due to:
    Hotels were mostly privatized by extablishment.
    Soviet Hotels were mixed grades so no star ratings.

    There are new individual Russian owned establishments that meet 4 or 5 star levels and are not branded but they don't operate in chains or even franchises. Up to 2014 they sold out anyway. Also, by franchising to an international brand, the hotel operators (usually not the same as the owners) get access to training for their staff. There was a huge shortage of competent hotel staff, especially managers. So foreign brands were preferred. The best hotels were sold out after 2014 as there was not so much competition and every large city was accomodatin teams of auditors from the Central Bank and teams from the Investigative Committee looking into local FSB corruption.

  • The blockage of the Suez Canal and the 12% of world cargo trade (1 billion tons of cargo per year) that flows through it raises the profile of an obvious and much shorter alternative that global warming is making increasingly attractive. Arctic sea ice continues to retreat at a very rapid clip (currently running below...
  • There is always the Northwest passage through Canada for Western allies?

    • Replies: @AKAHorace
    @128


    There is always the Northwest passage through Canada for Western allies?
     
    A much trickier route as it means navigating through an archipelago with narrow straights. The Canadian govt is not keen on it and does not have nearly enough icebreakers to maintain it.

    Replies: @Mitleser

  • If the West seriously decouples with China then that Northern Sea route from Asia to Europe is not going to be very useful. Japan and Korea may prize their alliance with the UAS over a shorter route through Russian waters.

  • @Verymuchalive
    Of course, the Egyptian Government could build new locks and channels, and widen and deepen existing channels, thereby doubling capacity and permitting the use of much bigger ships. Blockages would be a thing of the past.
    Just like Panama.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Canal_expansion_project

    What's wrong with these Arabs? Panama's largely mestizo and less than 10% white.

    Replies: @128

    You know that the Suez was already expanded a few years ago right?

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
    @128

    Obviously not enough if it's still being blocked.

    Replies: @Shortsword

  • Interesting links. (1) Len Sassaman and Satoshi: a Cypherpunk History. This is, I think, the strongest case for someone being Satoshi that I have read to date. All I can say is that IF it was him, he played the double act VERY well. (2) Gregoire Canlorbe (Postil Magazine) - A conversation with Emil O.W....
  • @songbird
    @SafeNow

    Perhaps, Japan should try it to draw out the Hikikomori.

    Replies: @128

    Would an Ireland that is not pozzed in exchange for a standard of living comparable to Eamon de Valera’s times be a good trade? That should still be above what the North Korean countryside has.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @128

    Without a doubt. IMO, better dirt floors in parts of the country than poz. Attracting international capital was one of Ireland's biggest mistakes ever.

  • Maybe people can try to use sources that are not paywalled here?

  • The blockage of the Suez Canal and the 12% of world cargo trade (1 billion tons of cargo per year) that flows through it raises the profile of an obvious and much shorter alternative that global warming is making increasingly attractive. Arctic sea ice continues to retreat at a very rapid clip (currently running below...
  • So climate precipitation North of the Yangtze due to climate change would lead to semi arid conditions.

  • • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    @128

    China will be fine. If there's one thing which China seems repeatedly capable of in history, it is vast geoengineering projects.

    https://images.chinahighlights.com/allpicture/2018/11/a9c82024780f4a57b835bfd7_799x501.jpg

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Foolish_Old_Man_Removes_the_Mountains


    The myth concerns a Foolish Old Man of 90 years who lived near a pair of mountains (given in some tellings as the Taihang and the Wangwu mountains, in Yu Province). He was annoyed by the obstruction caused by the mountains and sought to dig through them with hoes and baskets. When questioned as to the seemingly impossible nature of his task, the Foolish Old Man replied that while he may not finish this task in his lifetime, through the hard work of himself, his children, and their children, and so on through the many generations, some day the mountains would be removed if he persevered. The gods in Heaven, impressed with his hard work and perseverance, ordered the mountains separated.

    Replies: @jay, @AltanBakshi


  • If you are looking at a 3 degree warming, the last time that occurred was in the Pliocene, when much of the Amazon was grassland, and Northern China and Siberian were steppe climate. Also how would the melting of the Himalayan glaciers affect the flow of the Yangtze and Yellow Rivers?

  • Global warming to desertify Northern China and Southern Siberia, the taiga and the permafrost if it warmed will still not be suitable for agriculture for centuries. And if you have ever lived in the tropics you would prefer a little ice age over warming anyway.

    • LOL: Blinky Bill
  • Lu, J. G., Nisbett, R. E., & Morris, M. W. (2020). Why East Asians but not South Asians are underrepresented in leadership positions in the United States. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America, 117(9), 4590–4600. (h/t Razib Khan) Article makes the case that EAs are underrepresented ("bamboo ceiling")...
  • So I suppose that Africans in Guangdong are treated better than blacks in the US, or illegal Mexicans in the US?

    • Replies: @songbird
    @128

    There's also a movement to call China racist when it comes to blacks. I wonder if it might be partly state-financed?

    , @china-russia-all-the-way
    @128

    I don't think Africans have it so bad in Guangzhou. And there are only a few thousand Africans living in Guangzhou on a very long term basis (multi-year) so it's not a big deal worthy of so much global media analysis. In 2020, there was huge outcry about discrimination against blacks in Guangzhou during the pandemic and pictures of blacks thrown out of rented apartments onto the streets will leave an impression for years. But there was a non-racist explanation for the apartment evictions.


    “The landlords, who were illegally taking rent money are liable. The understanding is that the tenant doesn’t lead police back to the house. That is why some are claiming they are being forced out of their houses, genuinely because the landlords themselves are facing jail time if caught,” he said.
     
    https://www.monitor.co.ug/News/National/Covid-19-Inside-story-300-Ugandans-stuck-China/688334-5522002-12fy2g1z/index.html

    Much is about perception. Africans in China are not prodded by an overwhelming cultural climate to see Chinese people as racist so even if there are bad experiences with Chinese, generally Africans shake off those experiences and see China as welcoming.

    Replies: @Europe Europa

  • Thomm detected?

  • How do the pro-China altrighters here feel about China shilling for George Floyd and BLM?

    • Replies: @Long term lurker
    @128

    First cope: it's a 5d chess move.

    , @Pericles
    @128

    Presumably it feels like reaching over and twisting the knife after the idiot bully has stabbed himself. Is there a 36 strategy for this?

    , @songbird
    @128

    Well, this sort of thing goes back decades. When it was originally developed, it was not obvious that it would cause the West or even America to explode. It was basically throwaway rhetoric - probably fairly useless, except with the most insane radicals.

    In a way, it can be thought of as institutional momentum. By loose analogy, like how Western countries often have very poor statistics for measuring different ethnic groups - when these systems were imagined, nobody envisioned the scale of invasion, and so some European countries have silly categories like "immigrant", or "immigrant parent."

    And part of it is reflexive - a response to the rhetoric about Uighurs.

    But I really view it as short-sightedness. If China is to survive, it must adopt strategic racism, and a domino theory of poz.

    , @Anatoly Karlin
    @128

    I don't identify as an Alt Righter, but it syncs with my long-standing position that idiocy needs to be brutally punished.

    From its own perspective, China is not incorrect to twist the knife into an adversary, one that is spreading black legends about Uyghur Genocide, etc.

  • @Some Guy
    @songbird

    IIRC Lynn's study of Mongolians in China found they had 5 points higher spatial IQ than neighboring Han Chinese, but 10 points lower verbal. However, he noted that Mongolians speak two languages, which may have hurt their verbal scores.

    Replies: @128

    Mongolians only speak 1 language in Mongolia.

  • So why aren’t white WASPs are overrepresented among the elite based on their IQ?

  • @songbird
    @128

    Later estimate brings it down to 95, I think. Not necessarily the top Flynn-effect level, though.

    Replies: @128, @Some Guy

    Per capita GDP in Mongolia is 4000 USD per capita, twice that of Vietnam, and more than some Balkan countries, so the Flynn effect should be visible already.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @128

    Ulaanbaatar was one of the cities considered for the Trump-Kim summit, but they chose Singapore for the first one in 2018 and then Hanoi for the next one in 2019.

    But I think Mongolia has a development problem because it is landlocked.

    Replies: @Svevlad

  • Interesting how people refuse to consider nepotism as a factor instead of IQ. If this is true why aren’t WASPs as overrepresented as Jews, considering that Episcopalians actually have a slightly higher IQ than Jews?

    • Agree: Pop Warner, EldnahYm
  • Actually the IQ of Mongolians is 100.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @128

    Later estimate brings it down to 95, I think. Not necessarily the top Flynn-effect level, though.

    Replies: @128, @Some Guy

  • @Thulean Friend
    This could also explain why Indians in Singapore caught up to 90% of ethnic Chinese incomes in Singapore by 1990, well before the wave of skilled Indians truly took off in earnest to the island.

    People are paid according to their marginal product. The correlation with intelligence is non-trivial but still "only" ~25% in the literature. Everything from health, social skills to sheer luck (being born in the right country makes a lot of difference) factors in.

    More speculatively, there could be a trade-off between character traits that helps you in your personal life vs what's good for the nation as a whole. A lot of argumentation, even if done by smart people, can cripple a collective if excessive. You need the people below deck to be largely conformist once management have made up their minds, yet not stifle debate too much to prevent course correction. It's a tricky balance. This could explain why even countries like Philippines or Indonesia (typically not stereotyped as smarter than Indians, unlike Chinese) have done better than India. South-East Asians may be less interesting, but their more mellow nature allows easier development on a national scale, ceteris paribus.

    For example, I've long noticed that Iranians have done much better in Sweden than their demographics would suggest, even accounting for the fact that we took in a large part of their upper-middle class elite in the 70s and 80s. There seems to be a "mercantile temperament" at play here. Pushy minority groups can often do well in countries with a "flexible majority" but left to their own devices, they tend to do less well, as coordination problems beset them. Some may point to Jews as an exception to this rule, but Ashkenazi Jews are often stereotyped as "stiff" by the Mizrahis. At any rate, the highest-earning religious demographic in Israel are Christians.


    If you take Charles Murray's Human Accomplishment book seriously - and I do - then it isn't clear that Indian verbiosity paid off. In his chapter on philosophy, Indians don't do radically better than Chinese. Both give a rather poor showing. Given that India has been the birthplace of plenty more religions, and that lots of philosophical thinking is embedded in these texts, he may be underestimating them. Still, worth pondering about.

    Replies: @128, @Some Guy

    Or maybe they are productive in hot air production, instead of really being productive?

  • This week's Open Thread. Philippe Lemoine - The Case against Lockdowns. I don't agree with all of it (e.g., Ctrl-F for "centralized quarantine" shows zero hits and in retrospect, that and masks really seem to be key). But I have long since started to oppose lockdowns. If you're not fundamentally serious about or incapable of...
  • Regarding cryptocurrencies, cryptocurrencies will be forced to deanonymize users one way or another, if will be allowed to survive.

  • As American academia finishes transitioning into an even more intellectually repressive nightmare, talented professors are quitting and the value of a college education has plummeted. Ivy League schools naturally set the tempo for less prestigious colleges. Gender ideology and critical race theory begins to metastasize once the factories churning out tomorrow's elites institutionally embrace such...
  • @anonymousperson
    @E_Perez

    Had America just minded its own bloody business and stayed out of war in 1917, Europe would have been a thousand times better off today. WW1 would have ended in a negotiated peace a year earlier and no renewal of the conflict 20 odd years later. American involvement in Europe has been a curse and disaster for Europeans.

    Replies: @128

    Would a German-dominated East and Central Europe after WW1 be a better option than today?

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @128

    Hell yes.

    , @Franklin Ryckaert
    @128

    Such a non-Nazi Germany would "dominate" only itself.

  • Bold but not entirely trollish interpretation of the Great Awokening. Western - White American - culture remains hegemonic around the world, even as its economic and military preponderance slips away. Assuming this cultural hegemony remains intact, cultural "innovations" that arise in the imperial metropolis inevitably seep their way into the colonies. This is obviously correct...
  • @songbird
    @128

    Some of this stuff may have been precipitated by demographic trends. South America has probably been becoming less white for quite a while.

    Replies: @128

    If I were the King of Thailand, I would look at how the children have been getting educated lately, but that is just my 0.02 baht worth. Plus unlike Filipinos, the vast majority of Thais, even in Bangkok, can barely string together even a paragraph of grade school level English, which should have provided a security barrier.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @128

    I don't know a lot about Thailand, but it is probably a bad sign when you have a home-grown group of trannies commercially touring other countries for stage performances. Trannies score high on narcissism so they are really good at fomenting this woke stuff.

    Why is Thailand so known for trannies? I wonder if it is just an after effect of the big American bases there that closed in 1975. Or maybe, it is simply that communism didn't win there. I mean, China has a lot of sex workers now, but for at least a short while the whole operation was basically closed down.

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh

    , @Daniel Chieh
    @128

    Japan, and I think Hungary, also practices this "English is the language of poz" defense.

  • @Passer by
    @Hyperborean

    It is far more different. In the West you have inverted society - the locals must give up, and the migrant groups and basically everyone must be above them. The psychologically broken and cucked locals facilitate woke behaviors.

    There is also WW2 effect (among other things) which causes the locals to try to prove how "good" they are.

    In the Third World, it is Me First for all groups. No WW2 effect there. No one feels guilty for anything. And it is this selfishness exhibited by everyone which makes woke behaviors there less likely.

    Replies: @128

    You actually see wokism spreading in the third world from the elites down, especially those with historical ethnic based issues of disparities between different ethnic groups.

    • Replies: @Passer by
    @128

    That really depends, because non-western elites too are afraid that they met get replaced if they push too much for other groups interests, and thus be replaced by other groups elites. And no matter how much one can push for such behaviors, ppl are not psychologically broken there and it is Me First culture for all groups.

    And its not in all cases, see Turkey or Russia or India or China where elites try to push in opposite direction too.

    Moreover, there is greater inter-state competition in heartland areas of the world, which facilitates more pro-unity and nationalist behaviors, while the more geographically isolated (safer) areas of the world are the more woke ones.

    So level of wokeness also has to do with level of inter-state competition. It is one thing to be Canada (isolated and safer area of the world with low interstate competition) and it is another thing to be Russia (heartland area with high inter-state competition).

    Replies: @Hyperborean

    , @songbird
    @128

    Some of this stuff may have been precipitated by demographic trends. South America has probably been becoming less white for quite a while.

    Replies: @128

  • @Daniel Chieh
    @128

    AI filtering of their comments and harassment is more likely than "dungeon."

    Replies: @128

    I did mention house arrest right?

  • @Supply and Demand
    @128

    Bolsonaro, Noem, and most definitely de Santis would be vanned straight into a work camp because they are Anti-China, and therefore pro ZOGSA/Trumpenstein/globohomo.

    Replies: @128

    No, I mean if they were Chinese, China just would not allow anti-vaxxers and corona skeptics and anti-lockdowners to proliferate and gain popular support, judging from the history of populist movements in Chinese history, regardless of their foreign policy stances. You really believe this site would not get cancelled in China in they took the same positions against China that they take against the US?

  • Well North Korea seems to have no problem cutting itself off from wokeness, the question is whether any country wants to have the standard of living of North Korea.

  • @Extrapolator
    @Coconuts

    No shit black nationalism and Afrocentrism will harm the development of African nations -- consider Rhodesia or South Africa. Already has in plenty of places.

    Otherwise this comment is very good, but you don't elucidate how the two strands work with each other, which is that the former strand -- queer/feminism/LGBT -- always beats the latter strand when they conflict. This is because anybody who gets really into wokism is predominantly concerned about this strand (either because they are gay or because society has convinced them to care about this), while those who actually care about black culture go to black churches or rap or something. Whenever the latter conflicts with the former, everyone just pretends that it doesn't.

    This is why Anatoly is right, incidentally. When wokeness spreads, it'll spread LGTB-ism wherever it goes. Because wokeness is a Western idea and Western ideas have the highest levels of memetic fitness (the idea Trubetskoy was gesturing towards, but didn't have), it will out-compete its competitors and spread, even in the Third World. (Hell, you already have trans politicians in Brazil and such.) Then it will reduce birth-rates. (His prognosis for the First World is optimistic -- I'd put more faith in direct genetic engineering than Amish/Haredi/Arkansas-Quiverfull breeder colonies if things end up working out; given France's experience I don't think selection on breeder traits happens very fast in practice -- but his prognosis for the Third World is spot on.)

    Because Western societies are open -- there is no real censorship, someone here will complain about SJWs but no one will ever come to shut down Unz and it is very easy to find -- the most convincing-sounding ideas with the greatest memetic fitness will always be exported from Western societies to others. The idea that Iran or China or Africa can resist Western fashions in the long-term is bogus (even with high fertility, but then, Iran and China don't actually *have* high fertility). Xi can go ahead and try to build a functioning society if that's what he wants. Wokeness will eventually reach China too, and win there.

    Replies: @silviosilver, @Boomthorkell, @Boomthorkell, @Coconuts, @128, @Passer by, @Jatt Aryaa

    Well if this were China, this site would be shut down, and lots of authors would be in house arrest or put in a dungeon, and Mike Whitney, Atzmon, and Anglin would also be put in a dungeon or under house arrest, which may not be such a negative thing? Imagine Unz spreading stories about how China designed corona to be a biological weapon to attack Western economies, and this got a lot of traction in the Western media, Unz would also be put in a dungeon or put under house arrest. Depends on how much attention this site get if this were in China. And people like Bolsonaro and Noem, and possible De Santis would also be made to shut up or put in a dungeon if they were Chinese.

    • Replies: @Supply and Demand
    @128

    Bolsonaro, Noem, and most definitely de Santis would be vanned straight into a work camp because they are Anti-China, and therefore pro ZOGSA/Trumpenstein/globohomo.

    Replies: @128

    , @Daniel Chieh
    @128

    AI filtering of their comments and harassment is more likely than "dungeon."

    Replies: @128

  • This week's Open Thread. Philippe Lemoine - The Case against Lockdowns. I don't agree with all of it (e.g., Ctrl-F for "centralized quarantine" shows zero hits and in retrospect, that and masks really seem to be key). But I have long since started to oppose lockdowns. If you're not fundamentally serious about or incapable of...
  • @Abelard Lindsey
    @Hartnell

    The reason why I say the West will be like Brazil and not Islamistan is because the huge wave of migrants to come will be Sub-Saharan Africans and not MENA people. See Steve Sailer's world's most important graph series.

    Will the world continue? Yeah, I think it will. Performance will be degraded. But Brazil has electricity and internet just like everyone else.

    Replies: @128, @Europe Europa

    You know that Brazil produces military and civilian jets and would have had a nuclear weapons program if not for Western objections right?

    • Replies: @Abelard Lindsey
    @128

    I do know these things. I also know that PetroBras is a world-class oil compnay fully competitive with the likes of Shell or BP. All of these things are produced in the southern part of Brazil, and area that appears to be more functional than, say, around Rio de Janeiro and further north.

    , @reiner Tor
    @128

    That’s true, though unlike Russia they use lots of imported components.

  • OT but Myanmar just basically shut down the internet.

  • I thought Facebook is already banned in China, so criminalizing its use is just a legal next step, or the government can find some way to infect every device that manages to log on to the web with surveillance software. Basically just the act on logging on to the net can cause you to be infected with the software.

  • There is a lot of resentment in Singapore towards CECA Indians.

  • There is the question as to why so many people on this website are so enthusiastic about China, given that whether a site like this would be allowed to operate in China at all, if it took the same positions on Xi and the Chinese government that it takes against the West here. Also flooding due to rising sea levels is an increasing problem in Singapore.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @128


    There is the question as to why so many people on this website are so enthusiastic about China
     
    They cut all the gay parts out of the Freddy Mercury biopic Bohemian Rhapsody. They sometimes use man-catchers to catch illegal Nigerians. Recently, their education ministry introduced a plan to make boys more masculine.

    Those are all impressive accomplishments in my view, even if I see some areas where improvement is possible.

    Replies: @JohnPlywood

  • Also Singapore’s government pays the salaries of lots of people in the workforce that would otherwise to uneconomical if left to the private sector, basically make-work jobs, or a government jobs program, just to give people something to do. Also hidden taxes, i.e. forced savings like CPF means that almost half of your gross salary gets taken away. And there is always the cost of owning a car. Also the system tends to be quite unfavorable to higher income taxpayers if you look at the subsidies that lower-income people get in health care, education, and housing. Plus you can not exactly publish IQ studies on ethnicities or races there, or go about spreading anti-vaxxer propaganda.

  • Singapore’s gini is actually at 0.36 or 0,37, very low for a city of its size, and lower than NYC or London, housing is cheap relative to income due to massive subsidies.

    • Replies: @Hyperborean
    @128


    Singapore’s gini is actually at 0.36 or 0,37, very low for a city of its size, and lower than NYC or London, housing is cheap relative to income due to massive subsidies.
     
    From an article in 2015:

    There appears to be no publicly available information right now on how much PRs earn. The latest Labour Force In Singapore report shows that median monthly incomes for full-time employed residents - that is citizens plus PRs - grew to $3,770 last year.

    This is higher than the median income of full-time Singaporean workers, which is $3,566.

    It is thus clear that PRs - who tend to be better educated than citizens - likely earned more than citizens. Lumping citizen and PR income data can paint too rosy a picture of a community's income trends. For example, there has been concern that the income data of ethnic Indian Singaporeans is being inflated by lumping them together with India-born immigrants who take up permanent residence or citizenship here.

    In 2010, the average monthly household income from work in homes where the head of household was an Indian was $7,664, well above the national average of $7,214.

    Significantly, a decade earlier, the incomes of Indian-headed households was $4,623 - below the national average income ($4,988) as well as that for the Chinese community ($5,258).

    The influx in the 2000s of better-educated - and higher-income Indian nationals who took up PR here - was seen as a possible reason for the rise.

    [...]

    Finally, there is no official data on the wages of blue-collar foreign workers, despite their vast and growing numbers and the important economic role they play in doing essential jobs that most locals won't deign to do.

    There are more than 760,000 foreign work-permit holders who work in construction, shipping, manufacturing and other low-wage jobs. Another 218,000 foreigners work as domestic workers. Together, these workers make up nearly 30 per cent of the workforce. But their wages are not included in government wage surveys here, which consider only resident workers.

    Significantly, the non-PR foreign workforce here has more than doubled in the past decade.

    Anecdotally, work-permit holders here can earn as little as $18 a day - or around $400 a month before overtime. Their incomes may not have improved much in the past decade. In fact, they may well have fallen as companies try to recover costs of higher foreign worker levies by lowering worker pay. This needs to change.

    As Singapore moves towards a more progressive, inclusive society, it is time to ensure that all workers - citizens, PRs and foreigners - earn a fair wage. That, of course, cannot be done without knowing how much each group earns in the first place.
     
    https://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/make-foreigners-prs-count-in-income-data