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    After the 2012 election we heard a lot about how the Obama Coalition was a demographic juggernaut. To take a random example, from New York magazine on May 10, 2013: Of course, Richwine should be fired for having done his Harvard doctoral dissertation on a technical subject of massive importance to the long term future...
  • Jonathan Chait is not a white male. He is a Jew. His friend Hanna Rosin is not white. She is a Jew. Each of them knows this to be the case. It’s essential that readers struggling to come to an understanding of the contemporary world separate from the Narrative also come to understand this fact of identity as always central to the issue at hand, whatever it might be.

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    Jonathan Chait is not a white male. He is a Jew. His friend Hanna Rosin is not white. She is a Jew. Each of them knows this to be the case. It’s essential that readers struggling to come to an understanding of the contemporary world separate from the Narrative also come to understand this fact of identity as always central to the issue at hand, whatever it might be.
     
    I tend to think that they both feel very White indeed while driving through a Black neighborhood.....
  • In response to my Taki's Magazine column about campus BDS politics with its headline derived from the old Sarah Silverman joke, "Are Jews Losing Control of the Media?," commenter ABN writes: Is there much evidence that the last is too implausible for moderns? "Protective stupidity" is a pretty common tendency. Or it could be that...
  • A few questions:

    Is the incoherence of the comment by ABN an instance of “wrecking”? It seems so.

    Could the push/pull courtship of the Jews adduced by this and recent previous essays by you, Steve Sailer (not to be confounded with you, Andrew Marvell), possibly have any positive outcome?

    It’s hard to know what that would look like. Jews realizing they’d been wrong all along? recognizing that their ethno-tribal instincts that had seemed so successfully self-preservatory for so long were in fact terribly destructive of the one nation in human history which had (inanely) welcomed and accepted them? perhaps moving beyond a general apology for the societal-fabric-rending nature of their recent decades-worth of group endeavor to a more specific apology for their insistence on specific falsifications of their and our history, faux memorials to which are under continuous construction?

    That all seems unlikely.

    Might it not be more realistic to consider whether the debacle is not in fact what is intended? The dissatisfaction, real or fabricated, of a few can have no arguable standing, one would think, beside the genuine satisfaction that the chosen must have at seeing a hated culture, ours, in irreparable ruin. As a great man once said, “As a lone ant, from a broken anthill, from the wreckage of Europe: ego scriptor…”

  • In response to Buzzfeed's book editor Isaac Fitzgerald's feature "23 Writers With Messages For Straight White Male Publishing," Paleo Retiree of Uncouth Reflections comments on the demographic reality behind the hate campaign: I covered book publishing for more than 15 years as a reporter, up till the early 2000s, and during that time it was...
  • Since the death of Robert Giroux, the only straight white male left in publishing is Haven Monahan.

  • The Jewish Daily Forward reports: Striking, yet unsurprising. Political activists have known for years that members of the Jewish community are over-represented in the field of political contributions. And now, with the 2016 election cycle beginning to warm up, these Jewish donors are on the minds of all prospective candidates. The 2014 list represents donors...
  • Jews bet on all horses.

  • I was thinking Jose Canseco or Sammy Sosa. Who knows what kind of endocrine systems they have left ... Maybe James Cameron because of the sci-fi angle, but a sci-fi movie director has already been done ... Arnold or Sly? Larry Summers? Eddie Murphy? Lindsey!? If he ever gets overthrown, maybe Vlad ... But what...
  • It would be preferable for Barack Obama to transgaymarry Jenner and forge an unstoppable transraciogendral politico/”reality” dynasty. The possibilities are endless. In one episode, for instance, Michelle could have gender-reassignment surgery to become a woman, then ciscopulate with Kanye, who could record a song about it, etc. Your plan involving O.J. Simpson has a compelling narrative logic to it, but mine will provide leaders for our nation for the foreseeable future.

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    In regards to Jenner.

    I think the whole thing is a tragic accident of sorts. Lovecraft would have understood him.
    Look how could any man not go insane being stuck in a house full of gold digging self-absorbed air headed females. Hell I bet if you waved a book in front of them or mention a getting a job at Starbucks those females would burst into flames or morph into some sort of blob.

    Jenner was simply a fool to hang around them and succumb to their banal evilness and stupidity. I've seen their show and it's the closet thing to a digital lobotomy that I can think of - with Honey Boo Boo running a close second. Imagine dealing with these creatures on a 7x24 basis, it could only kill ones soul.

  • Academic historians dislike the concept that history is often made by groups of individuals plotting together in confidence, even though one obvious way to get big things done is to make plans with your friends and allies while keeping your rivals in the dark as long as possible. One exception is the late Georgetown history...
  • “Appeasement” can only be viewed as a “massive screw-up” if one views its opposite — the British aggression which began WW2 and resulted, after much slaughter and carnage and cultural destruction, in the collapse of the British Empire and the present control of Britain by a hostile elite steadily extirpating the traditional inhabitants of Britain — as a massive success. We are instructed to so view the situation by today’s Establishment, but it is odd to find that position declared incontrovertible in this forum.

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    @TheLatestInDecay

    Appeasement WAS a massive screw up because contemporaries at the highest levels of the Reich, in the General Staff, in Hitler's bureaucracy, wrote at the time that if Britain and France had invaded during say, the remilitarization of the Rhineland, the German government would have collapsed because the Army existed only in theory, and the Luftwaffe and Navy not at all. Hitler only really became powerful at around 1938. Certainly in 1934 or 35 he could have been easily crushed without too much trouble.

    Your statement about British aggression is profoundly stupid, as it was German aggression, i.e. invading and occupying Poland, that kicked off WWII (in Europe, anyway). Nor was mass third world immigration into Britain much of anything until the late 1960s, a full twenty years on after the END of WWII.

    This is the problem with WN -- their hatred of a certain ethnic group makes them stupid. Hitler was possibly the most stupid leader any nation ever produced. He managed to take a winning hand and turn it to ashes. The Western allies were desperate for a counter-weight to Stalin, who was a real threat (this explains Appeasement). In turn, Germany had interests in keeping war and conflict far away from them, and not creating a massive, very un-German slave empire to the East (the motivation for Hitler's invasion of Poland). A smart leader would have pocketed Allied support, extorted money from them, propped up border nations and pointed them straight East on their own accord. Waiting for Stalin to die of bad diet and alcoholism, and see far less ruthless and able leaders succeed the dictator.

    I understand WHY the Allies wanted to appease Hitler. They thought he was not insane, and Stalin was a threat. Unfortunately none seems to have read Mein Kampf and realized Hitler wanted desperately to construct a massive Roman-style slave Empire in Europe. He wasn't Napoleon, or Mussolini, or Franco, or your average tyrant. That's why appeasement failed. Hitler could never be satisfied with this territory or that nation -- he wanted EVERYTHING.

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    “'Appeasement' can only be viewed as a 'massive screw-up' if one views its opposite — the British aggression which began WW2 and resulted, after much slaughter and carnage and cultural destruction, in the collapse of the British Empire and the present control of Britain by a hostile elite steadily extirpating the traditional inhabitants of Britain — as a massive success"

    This is accomplished by the insane way we have of severing the war from its outcome, as if all wars were about were winning wars, hence nonsense like "winning the peace." One wonders why you'd start wars in the first place if the only point of war is to win the war. But we can smother that worry by pretending every damn conflict is existential, and that if we weren't fighting and winning we'd all be dead or slaves. Hence nonsense like Churchill saying he'd put in a good word for the devil in parliament if Hitler invaded hell. Why, in the name of sanity? That's not an idle question, for just around the bend was another devil, Stalin, and it's astounding to me that it never occurred to anyone that Hitler and the Japanese weren't the only problems in the world. Of course, everyone knew. They just plugged their ears and charged forward, which makes them fools.

    Russia had actual war aims, besides winning and World Peace. They were the smart ones. Britain lost every damn thing it pretended to be defending, including the demise of Germany, part of which was propped up as a bulwark against Russia shortly after the slaughter, dismemberment, starvation, enslavement, and looting. Gone was Britain's empire, eminence in world power, the balance of power in Europe, even its independence of foreign policy. Then there was the effort, money, blood, and time invested in the losing venture. Churchill himself admitted as much in his memoirs. The only excuse was to pretend like the war and its peace were two different things. Which, as I said, is insane.

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  • Christopher Caldwell writes in The Weekly Standard: Greece’s euro trouble arose in the wake of the U.S. subprime crisis—and largely because it struck investors as analogous. In both cases a credit system was distorted by an ulterior motive. Depending on whether you like the motive, you could call it idealism or social engineering. In the...
  • It is difficult to imagine a phrase further from the possibility of ever concluding in anything remotely close to the truth than “Globalism brings prosperity because…”

  • Academic historians dislike the concept that history is often made by groups of individuals plotting together in confidence, even though one obvious way to get big things done is to make plans with your friends and allies while keeping your rivals in the dark as long as possible. One exception is the late Georgetown history...
  • @Whiskey
    @TheLatestInDecay

    Appeasement WAS a massive screw up because contemporaries at the highest levels of the Reich, in the General Staff, in Hitler's bureaucracy, wrote at the time that if Britain and France had invaded during say, the remilitarization of the Rhineland, the German government would have collapsed because the Army existed only in theory, and the Luftwaffe and Navy not at all. Hitler only really became powerful at around 1938. Certainly in 1934 or 35 he could have been easily crushed without too much trouble.

    Your statement about British aggression is profoundly stupid, as it was German aggression, i.e. invading and occupying Poland, that kicked off WWII (in Europe, anyway). Nor was mass third world immigration into Britain much of anything until the late 1960s, a full twenty years on after the END of WWII.

    This is the problem with WN -- their hatred of a certain ethnic group makes them stupid. Hitler was possibly the most stupid leader any nation ever produced. He managed to take a winning hand and turn it to ashes. The Western allies were desperate for a counter-weight to Stalin, who was a real threat (this explains Appeasement). In turn, Germany had interests in keeping war and conflict far away from them, and not creating a massive, very un-German slave empire to the East (the motivation for Hitler's invasion of Poland). A smart leader would have pocketed Allied support, extorted money from them, propped up border nations and pointed them straight East on their own accord. Waiting for Stalin to die of bad diet and alcoholism, and see far less ruthless and able leaders succeed the dictator.

    I understand WHY the Allies wanted to appease Hitler. They thought he was not insane, and Stalin was a threat. Unfortunately none seems to have read Mein Kampf and realized Hitler wanted desperately to construct a massive Roman-style slave Empire in Europe. He wasn't Napoleon, or Mussolini, or Franco, or your average tyrant. That's why appeasement failed. Hitler could never be satisfied with this territory or that nation -- he wanted EVERYTHING.

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    Thanks for the heads-up about the German invasion of Poland. I must have dropped the comic book in the bathtub before I got to that part, and by the time I picked up the thread of the story Sgt. Nick Fury and his Howling Commandos were already on the scene kicking Nazi ass and Winston Churchill was sitting up in bed in his pajamas to make a rousing speech about not judging s man by the color of his skin but by the content of his character.

    It sounds as though you’ve learned all you need to know on the subject from the works of Mel Brooks, but if you want to go deeper you can try FREEDOM BETRAYED by conspiracy theorist Herbert Hoover. THE TRIUMPH OF PROVOCATION by Jozef Mackiewicz is also worth a look.

    Far be it from me to suggest that Adolf Hitler was a man without flaws or failings. As an account of what went wrong Drieu La Rochelle’s “Notes sur l’Allemagne” (1945) is astute.

    By the way, how did that principled Allied defense of Poland work out?

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    @TheLatestInDecay

    “'Appeasement' can only be viewed as a 'massive screw-up' if one views its opposite — the British aggression which began WW2 and resulted, after much slaughter and carnage and cultural destruction, in the collapse of the British Empire and the present control of Britain by a hostile elite steadily extirpating the traditional inhabitants of Britain — as a massive success"

    This is accomplished by the insane way we have of severing the war from its outcome, as if all wars were about were winning wars, hence nonsense like "winning the peace." One wonders why you'd start wars in the first place if the only point of war is to win the war. But we can smother that worry by pretending every damn conflict is existential, and that if we weren't fighting and winning we'd all be dead or slaves. Hence nonsense like Churchill saying he'd put in a good word for the devil in parliament if Hitler invaded hell. Why, in the name of sanity? That's not an idle question, for just around the bend was another devil, Stalin, and it's astounding to me that it never occurred to anyone that Hitler and the Japanese weren't the only problems in the world. Of course, everyone knew. They just plugged their ears and charged forward, which makes them fools.

    Russia had actual war aims, besides winning and World Peace. They were the smart ones. Britain lost every damn thing it pretended to be defending, including the demise of Germany, part of which was propped up as a bulwark against Russia shortly after the slaughter, dismemberment, starvation, enslavement, and looting. Gone was Britain's empire, eminence in world power, the balance of power in Europe, even its independence of foreign policy. Then there was the effort, money, blood, and time invested in the losing venture. Churchill himself admitted as much in his memoirs. The only excuse was to pretend like the war and its peace were two different things. Which, as I said, is insane.

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    Precisely. It’s very worthwhile to look at the writings and public remarks of those who saw this at the time and who tried to prevent the calamity. Charles Lindbergh and Ezra Pound are two. The defeat of their courageous efforts by mendacious politicians and their usurious owners is tragic, for each of them personally, and for all of us who live in the vile and dysgenic anti-civilization they sought to forestall.

  • Caitlin Flanagan, who was part of the San Fernando Valley mafia that dominated the back of the book of The Atlantic Monthly before it switched to primarily clickbait, returns to The Atlantic with a visit to the National Association of Campus Activities convention in Minneapolis in February to watch stand-up comics try out for gigs...
  • Caitlin Flanagan is that rarest thing in the mainstream media: an uncowed writer. Her father Thomas Flanagan’s first novel, THE YEAR OF THE FRENCH, is the most profound exploration of history in fiction after Tolstoy. It would be pretty to think that Caitlin Flanagan’s willingness to write truthfully might somehow work to redirect the vile, poisonous synagogue of propaganda that THE ATLANTIC has come to represent.

  • From Best of /r/europics by WarmFoothills · 21 hours ago
  • That’s such a pretty picture! Thanks for sharing!

  • South African-born columnist Roger Cohen writes in the NYT: As we know, because Syrians have always been notorious for losing their passports. They're known as the Forgetful People. They lose their umbrellas constantly, so why not their passports too? , have arrived in a
  • Might you be willing to make a clear statement regarding your censorship principles and parameters for your Comments section? A few other commenters whose comments have been published have indicated a desire for the same. In my view, you have every right to permit or deny comments as you see fit. And yet, something seems awry when a site putatively devoted to free speech and pattern recognition so frequently silences speech and denies the identification of evident patterns. In any event, if you would openly state your limits it would spare certain readers, myself among them, the effort of seeking to engage in a conversation from which they are surreptitiously excluded. With gratitude, regardless, for what you do.

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    @TheLatestInDecay

    We had to learn by trial and error. I think Steve is pretty loose actually, and getting looser as Overton shifts. It is his site. It's his whim. If you don't like it...

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    The rules are simple. Holocaust justification and holocaust denial are fine in the Disqus comments below Steve's Takimag articles, also in the comments for a number of other writers right here on Unz.com. However, this is Steve's show room, the place he expects mainstream journalists to visit and quote from. Therefore, the above two topics, as well as over-the-top scapegoating of the Jews ("over the top" as defined by Steve), 9/11 conspiracy theories or the use of the "n word" are not welcome here.

    Poor Steve has been scrambling to catch up with the rapid pace of developments. He used to have a quiet sinecure earning very modest $$ blogging as a moderate white nationalist entertaining his audience with well-written rants about lazy blacks, scheming Jews, gold-digging women and traitorous news media. Now he's on a bigger stage at Unz, plus recent events are driving new readers towards him. He's still adjusting to the novel situation, so you need to cut him some slack.

    You can get away with more if you are an iSteve commenter of long standing and if you practice writing between the lines.

  • @Anonym
    @TheLatestInDecay

    We had to learn by trial and error. I think Steve is pretty loose actually, and getting looser as Overton shifts. It is his site. It's his whim. If you don't like it...

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    What do you mean “we,” paleface? Truly, are you the censor? Such a strange, Al Haig-like response.

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    @TheLatestInDecay

    That's just what they want you to think.

    Seriously I've been reading Steve for over a decade now. You show up and immediately want to stuff him around pinning him down when the whim policy serves perfectly fine. In fact it is better because it's a matter of "I know it when I see it."

    95%+ of my stuff gets through. And that last 5% I know why it didn't. If it's not worth it to you to waste a comment learning how whim works then find someone better to read. Even Svigor has stopped bitching about Komment Kontrol. Whim's Overton window has shifted big time.

  • From CNN: Not counting Istanbul. And neither France nor Russia collects data on this kind of thing so nobody really knows about a Paris v. Moscow comparison. A recent opinion poll, published by the Levada Center, an independent agency, found that 51% of Muscovites, who are overwhelmingly Orthodox Christian, are against further mosque construction. Only...
  • This will give something to blow up when SHTF. Putin’s parody of Obama is pretty rich.

  • Commenter AndrewR asks: This isn't a universal pattern (Colin Powell), but it's likely true as a tendency: e.g., Ben Carson, Herman Cain, Clarence Thomas, Thomas Sowell, etc. Obama's consigliere Valerie Jarrett is a fairly amusing example of the Democratic appeal to the other end of the African American color range. Part of the explanation may...
  • It turns out that SOUL MAN was an unbeknownst prequel of the Obama presidency.

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    @TheLatestInDecay


    It turns out that SOUL MAN was an unbeknownst prequel of the Obama presidency.

     

    I thought that was Watermelon Man.
  • From a news article in the New York Times: The NYT achieves Godwin’s Law in 8 words. No beating around the bush here! By ALISON SMALE SEPT. 29, 2015 VIENNA — As befits the city of Sigmund Freud, Vienna has two faces — one sweet, one sinister. Behind the schnitzel and strudel, Mozart and the...
  • Until you are able to at least contemplate the possibility — in my view the evident reality — that the U.S. fought on the wrong side of WWII, you are just going to keep spinning your wheels in the mud. The slave’s pleas for better treatment by his master — which much of the discourse here amounts to — must eventually bore even the slave. Or so one would think. Maybe you’ll just chatter on as such to the grave. I’m writing this from the Churchill Bar at the Royal Air Force Club in London. The progress of that depraved man’s career — from his accurate early representation of Judeo-Bolshevism to his mass murder in alliance with and at the behest of the same — might stand as a lesson to us all.

  • Individuals respond to incentives, so it's not surprising to observe today's ongoing Flight From White. This is in contrast to the Flight Toward White in the mid-20th Century. For example, the Census Bureau didn't separately count Hispanics / Latinos / Mexicans in the 1950 and 1960 Censuses in response to the League of United Latin...
  • Things did not work out OK for JFK, just FYI. I can’t see why 2,000 years of failure would present any reason to think that the strategy pursued here would not be successful. 3,00th time’s the charm! I’m sure that censoring mean comments will get your clever enemies to gratefully take your position and jettison whatever crazy, self-interested goals they were pursuing.

  • In the unlikely event you publish my comment: for “3,00th” read “3,000th”

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    @whorefinder

    Major Dreyfus's enemies attacked him as a Jew and his supporters, such as Zola and Clemenceau, defended him as a Frenchman. The Dreyfusards eventually won a huge victory, both in terms of symbolism and policy.

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    Well I’m not the world’s most passionate man, but I can take a stance, and man I love France! I love Zola, Z-O-L-A Zola, Zo Zo Zo ZA Zola! Well he wrote “J’Accuse” and I know it’s hard to live in the Third Republic as a Dreyfusard. He was Zola… Many noble and talented people have supported the Jewish cause and accepted the lachrymose account of their history. They were mistaken, but there are plentiful reasons why they would have been so misled.

  • @Steve Sailer
    @whorefinder

    Daniel O'Connell referred to Benjamin Disraeli as a Jew in Parliament, and the future Prime Minister defended himself by, more or less, attacking the Irish as bog-ignorant potato-heads.

    "Yes, I am a Jew, and while the ancestors of the right honorable gentleman were brutal savages in an unknown island, mine were priests in the temple of Solomon.”

    Replies: @TheLatestInDecay, @Anonymous, @rod1963

    Truth be told, being a priest in the temple of Solomon was a pretty shabby, unaccomplished thing to be. Everyone used to know this. As Ezra Pound wisely noted, “All the Jew part of the Bible is black evil.” Daniel O’Connell’s ancestors, who are also my own, were pursuing a far more decent way of life than Disraeli’s, regardless of whether they were brutal, savage, or unknown.

  • One of the best kept secrets of the 21st Century is how large a role Diversity (in its various manifestations) played in housing bubble and bust of the last decade. So I've been slowly collecting studies by economists of the subject, such as how much worse the default rate was among minorities and immigrants. Last...
  • @yesanonymous
    Q: Why am I getting punched in the face?
    A: Because someone wants to smash your face in.

    That's the answer to your question, Steve. That's the answer to all your questions.

    As you yourself have noticed with respect to Muslim immigration to Europe, among other things, "is it good for the Jews" isn't always a good predictive model for determining which way the wind will blow. It has its limitations. Happily, my model is both simpler and more accurate.

    Try: "is it bad for the goys."

    Replies: @TheLatestInDecay

    It is astonishing that this comment was published. I commend the author and the publisher.

  • Economics is a joke avocation. It is hard to conceive of anything more inherently fraudulent than the Nobel Prize for Peace, but the prize for/in “Economics” might be that thing. In a world lit only by Jews, “economics” can be taken, I guess, as the proper study of a generally agreed-upon thievery. No properly organized society, which took the well-being of its people as its central reason for existence, could take any of this nonsense in any way seriously.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @TheLatestInDecay

    And the "Nobel" prize in Economics is itself a fraud, Alfred Nobel endowed no such thing it was made up by the Swedish Central Bank.

  • From the Wall Street Journal: Economist Raj Chetty’s Proposals on Inequality Draw Interest on Both Sides of the Political Aisle Plans for increasing upward mobility appeal to Democrats and Republicans alike in presidential campaign By BOB DAVIS Updated Oct. 20, 2015 9:11 p.m. ET CAMBRIDGE, Mass.—In a presidential campaign where candidates from both parties are...
  • As Evelyn Waugh said, “Papers will be judged on length, and length alone.”

  • A growing genre of film is the nonfiction business movie, such as The Social Network and Steve Jobs (which goes into national release on Friday), and the upcoming The Big Short. Jonah Hill has had memorable supporting roles in a couple of recent such films, Moneyball and The Wolf of Wall Street. (A popular theme...
  • The struggle to find an actor who might play Jordan Belfort must have been trying for the white men who run Hollywood. Obviously, for instance, Jonah Hill would not have been acceptable. Let alone Jeff Goldblum, or Abe Foxman, or Mason Reece, or “Andrew Dice Clay,” or any of the defendants of Albert Einstein and his double-first-cousin bride. Thank Yahweh they managed to find Leonardo di Caprio. By the way, as regards cousin marriage, while you are right regarding the insanely dysgenic effects of multiple-generation cousin marriage in, say, Pakistan, you are consistently misleading about the non-dysgenic effects of cousin marriage in, say, the British aristocracy, or the Irish Ascendancy. Am I correct in thinking that the latter is due to (a) the genetic quality of the procreating couples and (b) the fact that while quite common in these populations, it was not formalized or regulated, but rather simply came about through love and proximity?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @TheLatestInDecay

    Albert Einstein's children were by his first wife, Mileva Maric, not his second wife/cousin.

  • For “defendants” read “descendants”

  • What did you think?
  • I’m hoping that the Bloods win the next election. I’m tired of the Crips.

  • From the NYT: Three Teams of Coordinated Attackers Carried Out Assault on Paris, Officials Say; Hollande Blames ISIS By ADAM NOSSITER, AURELIEN BREEDEN and KATRIN BENNHOLD NOV. 14, 2015 1505 COMMENTS PARIS — Three teams of Islamic State attackers acting in unison carried out the terrorist assault in Paris on Friday night, officials said Saturday,...
  • @Ron Unz
    Well, here's a question that came to my mind...

    For the sake of argument, let's assume the Paris Attacks are exactly what the MSM claims, namely made by ISIS in retaliation for Western/French military attacks in Syria.

    America and its Western allies have claimed that for the last couple of years they've been constantly attacking ISIS, both in Syria and in Iraq. Meanwhile, critics who are pro-Russian or pro-Syrian have been claiming that America and its allies have actually been *supporting* IsIS, with vast quantities of money and weapons, mostly laundered through those "moderate rebels" that don't really seem to exist (e.g. there are only 4-5 individuals).

    Then a few weeks ago, Russian sent a small military force to Syria and began successfully attacking ISIS. This may have forced the West and its allies to actually begin fighting ISIS rather than pretending to, or at any least change their allegedly pro-ISIS strategy.

    And now suddenly, ISIS launches a massive, retaliatory attack in the West.

    If the West had really been fighting ISIS for so long---instead of giving them money and weapons---why had they never previously attacked the West?

    Offhand, doesn't this sudden attack help us decide whether the Western or the Russian leaders were the ones being truthful all this time?

    Replies: @AnAnon, @Chrisnonymous, @Pat Hannagan, @Sam Haysom, @Ezra, @Jonathan Revusky, @With the thoughts you'd be thinkin, @International Jew, @Anonymous, @Jack D, @TheLatestInDecay, @rod1963

    My son’s school just sent a memo entitled “Talking To Your Son About Paris” which contained the following advice: “Limit using the internet as an investigative tool about this incident – some written reports are less regulated than the newspapers and may include untrue/inappropriate information.”

    • Replies: @Jonathan Revusky
    @TheLatestInDecay


    “Limit using the internet as an investigative tool about this incident – some written reports are less regulated than the newspapers and may include untrue/inappropriate information.”
     
    Translation: “Limit using the internet as an investigative tool about this incident – some written reports are less controlled than the newspapers and may actually tell the truth."
  • Charles Blow op-edizes in the NYT in the manner of Genius T. Coates: In other words, Blow is angry that a (fortunately declining) percentage of blacks try to adopt non-threatening body language that sets other people at ease. The ultimate offense of it all — the contorting of body and behavior to offset the deficit...
  • They sho’ be a whole lotta “folks” in de ol’ po-li-to-cal dis-course dese days. The chief clown is always rolling up his sleeves and talking about the folks, though there are few greater comic pleasures available to us than listening to Hillary go full Negro. It’s great that this seems to be spreading to the mimic community of journalists. Speaking of the volk, the NYT revealed that the “French” were hunting the “Belgian” mastermind of the recent slaughter, but –wary of profiling, no doubt — they neglected to reveal if he was a Flamand or a Walloon.

  • @SFG
    @Tiny Duck

    I suspect it was a large part of the motivation behind Jim Crow. (Didn't Steve say as much?)

    Replies: @TheLatestInDecay, @Malcolm X-Lax

    Black male sexual attractiveness to white women — to the degree that it exists at all, which is real though statistically minimal — is entirely a function of a century of relentless pimping by the Jewish media. So, Severn, you’re just in someone else’s stable. The statistics of battering and murder of white girlfriends and wives by their black partners does, however, confirm the truth of your claim that you represent the “ultimate” sensual experience. So there’s that.

    • Replies: @DCBillS
    @TheLatestInDecay

    Right on TLID! Every word glows with truth. Could we please hear from some white women on this? Does TLID's comment cross the sexual divide?

    Replies: @AndrewR

  • @Trelane
    People who do poorly in school tend also to do poorly in the workforce. It is quite exceptional that a person who does poorly in school overcomes this and does well occupationally. I know of an example, one example, an anectdote against this but I don't know of any real data that runs counter to the trend that people who do poorly in school also do poorly in the realm of occupation and employment.
    About 15% of the general population do poorly in school. This includes those who are below average but does not include those who are clearly handicapped or cognitively impaired. Roughly, the group I am speaking of are those with IQ above 80 but below 90. This is about 15% of the general population but about 45% of the black population.
    This group I speak of is uncompetitive in the labor force. They're difficult to train (the military and universities will have nothing to do with them). They take no pride in their own work and do not admire or acknowledge the work of others. They overestimate their own ability and underestimate the ability of others. They have limited capacity for pace and persistance. They are resistant to education and often view those trying to educate them as "showing off" or as personally trying to one-up them. Low IQ people are easily frustrated and almost always have poor executive function. They are incurious and dismiss others' interests as "boring" or as, "so what", not ever considering learning, for its own sake, to be valuable.
    This feature is found in about 1-in-12 whites (8%) but is found in about 1-in-4 blacks (25%). What is to be done with these "morons", those that cannot be trained for even the most simple of jobs, e.g., a housepainter, carpenter or plumber? One answer, famous on the left, is for them to marry white women. But this is of very limited value; the only white women interested in moron mates are those white women that are themselves morons. I suggest the Bryan Foy production of "Tomorrow's Children"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndb0RVJxg9U as a primer for understanding the question before us.

    Replies: @TheLatestInDecay, @Joe Sweet

    All of these people have a prehistory, and the prehistory of some of them — those whose ancestors resided in Africa for centuries– have as part of their inheritance the fact that no one in their bloodline ever did anything — even the most childish, retarded thing — of any note. Unlike many commenters on this site, I don’t sneer at them for this. That is like an owl sneering at a bittern. Creatures are different. The fact that no African ever discovered the wheel or learned to dig a well is not really a meaningful charge against them. Neither did the ostrich or the morpho butterfly. The African peoples of Africa thrived there for centuries and did not die out. Hateful though they may, for the most part, be, we should – and I certainly do — feel almost equally not at home in the dysgenic, Judaized world we’ve been given. As William Blake said, “Thus could I sing, and thus rejoice, but it is not so with me.”

  • From today's Guardian: In other words, the government of Sweden didn't have a clue how many poor people there are in the world who'd like to move to Sweden and collect welfare. But you can't blame Sweden's leaders for thei
  • “BATACLAN VICTIMS’APARTMENTS, JOBS TO BE GIVEN TO SYRIAN REFUGEES, SAYS HOLLANDE: WE CAN NOT BRING THEM BACK, PRESIDENT SAYS, BUT WE CAN ASSURE THAT THEY HAVE NOT DIED IN VAIN”

  • From the Washington Post: From the Los Angeles Times: From the Wall Street Journal:
  • @Anon7
    It might be possible to fix this problem if enough Hollywood people come out as African American. Carol Channing was nominated in 1967 for Best Actress in a Supporting Role, and then announced that she was actually African American in her 2002 autobiography. This resulted in her being added retroactively to the list of African American actresses who have been nominated. Channing offered no documented evidence for her claim (no photos, birth certificates of relevant family members destroyed in a fire, etc.)

    I'm sure that there are plenty of actors, directors, etc. who would be happy and proud to come forward as African American. We can do this, Hollywood!

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @TheLatestInDecay, @njguy73

    Where is the outrage at the blatant casting of Gentiles as Jews in THE BIG SHORT, utterly masking and even denying Jewish achievement in the financial chicanery that is sinking our nation’s economy? This has happened many times before, as in THE WOLF OF WALL STREET, ARBITRAGE, MARGIN CALL, OTHER PEOPLE’S MONEY, and on and on. Someone needs to say “Never again!’ The Jews should watch how blacks organize in their own racial interests and learn from them.

  • Pat Lipsky writes in The Awl: And the French Revolution / Napoleonic Era probably militarized and masculinized tastes to the detriment of women artists. That was the observation of Elisabeth Vigee-Lebrun, who had been Queen Marie Antoinette's court portraitist, but
  • It’s clear that women are substantially less accomplished than men in the higher ranges of achievement of most forms of visual art: painting, sculpture, architecture. There is no such divide in certain forms of handiwork, such as potting or bookbinding. There doesn’t seem to be much interest in identifying those fields of which it can truly be said that there is no natural advantage of men over women, or vice versa. For instance, while men are clearly much more accomplished than women at musical composition, the laurels for musical performance might be evenly divided. To my knowledge, no one has ever made a point of arguing that men are better singers than women, for instance, or better dancers. Outside of the arts, while much female employment and advancement stems from affirmative action, there are certain fields where there is no discernible difference in aptitude. In most fields of medicine, for instance, I would not have the slightest hesitation in being treated by a (white or Asian) woman doctor. When Ben Carson walks into the room and says he is going to be your neurosurgeon, however, you know he is only there because of someone’s desire to re-engineer society at your expense. He might be a good singer, though.

    • Replies: @blankmisgivings
    @TheLatestInDecay

    I think english language poetry and fiction since about 1860 are an arena where women have outperformed compared to other artistic forms hitorically. I would argue you could consume ONLY female poetry and prose since the late nineteenth century to the present and still have a pretty balanced diet of greatness available to you: Dickinson, Woolf, Moore, O'Connor to name just four of the greatest.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  • From my new column in Taki's Magazine: Read the whole thing there. This article includes several ideas I've been kicking around for a long time and have finally aired.
  • @Anonymous
    @Immigrant from former USSR

    Hamilton is a Scottish name.

    Replies: @Immigrant from former USSR, @TheLatestInDecay

    You might want to consult THE DESIRE TO PLEASE by Harold Nicolson. Not that that could possibly cure your ignorance, but it might be a place to start.

    • Replies: @Immigrant from former USSR
    @TheLatestInDecay

    Thank you, Mr. TheLatestInDecay.
    I just ordered the book from Amazon; $2.52 + $3.99 S&H, used, will be sent from UK.
    http://www.amazon.com/The-Desire-Please-Hamilton-Irishmen/dp/B0017KW9I8?

    Replies: @TheLatestInDecay

    , @Anonymous
    @TheLatestInDecay

    The Hamiltons were Anglo-Irish i.e. of English or Scottish Protestant descent, not Irish i.e. of Gaelic Irish descent.

    Replies: @TheLatestInDecay

  • @John Derbyshire
    @Bill B.

    My take:


    You might think that, having spawned so much misery and bloodshed to no good purpose, the Easter Rising would be regarded by Irish people with embarrassment or shame. Not a bit of it. The Rising was seen, even by the participants, as a grand romantic gesture, a blood sacrifice for the ancient soul of Ireland; and so it has been preserved in folk memory and the educational system of the Irish Republic. The Rising is a totem, one of the foundation myths of modern Ireland, and none may call it the poisonous folly that it undoubtedly was.
     

    Replies: @Irish Millennial, @Rapparee, @TheLatestInDecay, @Hibernian, @Hibernian, @Hibernian

    http://www.counter-currents.com/2010/06/cu-chulainn-in-the-gpo/

    John Derbyshire’s former country is more fully turned into a third-world hellhole than is Ireland (though the governmental leaders of Ireland and champs like Peter Sutherland are doing their level best to catch up). Why might this be so? As the avoidance of the fate of Rotherhamite England is pretty much the only concern that anyone not intent on their own demise should have in mind, perhaps John Derbyshire might better direct his witty attentions elsewhere than towards historical judgment of the leaders of the Easter Rising. For starters, he might consider that the subsequent leaders of Ireland did not participate in the firebombing of entire cities full of white Germans and civilized Japanese people at the behest of international usurers. Those interested in the latter subject might consult, among many other sources, the excellent NO MORE CHAMPAGNE: CHURCHILL AND HIS MONEY by David Lough.

    • Replies: @Evocatus
    @TheLatestInDecay

    Ironically, one of the first individuals to speak out about Rotherham and the grooming gangs was the half Irish Tommy Robinson (aka Stephen Yaxley-Lennon), who was promptly vilified by the respectable British media establishment as a racist hooligan.

  • @Bill B.
    The feisty Irish journalist Kevin Myers has repeatedly, and bravely, argued that Ireland's modern difficulties arise in part from the one-eyed rewriting of the reality of the 1916 uprising that ultimately ushered in decades of stagnation, isolation and unnecessary poverty:

    "Nationalists still do not know that Home Rule had been legally established in 1914. They do not know that there were no British regiments in Ireland in 1916, and that the 1916 Rising was directed solely at Irishmen, who for the most part didn't join the army to defend the UK, but to fight for Belgium and Home Rule.

    They do not know that all the violence between 1916-l923 finally resulted in largely the kind of parliamentary democracy that Home Rule would have produced anyway: whatever the differences were, they were not worth a single life, never mind the thousands of dead and the economic ruination resulting from the abominable civil wars of 1916-23.

    The executions of 1916 still form the toxic staple of the brainwashing that passes for education in our secondary schools. Were you taught about the other executions, of the 77 helpless anti-Treaty prisoners taken from their cells, and shot in batches, as a means of ending the Civil War? Were you taught about the thousands of protestants chased from their homes in the 26 counties between 1919-23?

    Did you learn about how the IRA evicted around 100 children from the two protestant orphanages in Clifden in 1922, and burnt the buildings down, while the Royal Navy had to send in a warship to save the homeless waifs? Did you learn about the protestants abducted in Cork City, murdered and secretly buried in the farm of an IRA leader who was to be a Fianna Fail TD for over 40 years?"

    (Myers has gone behind a paywall so I do not know what he has been say recently.)

    http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/kevin-myers/kevin-myers-executions-of-1916-still-form-toxic-staple-of-brainwashing-that-passes-for-education-in-schools-26807649.html

    http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/kevin-myers/kevin-myers-ff-celebratory-plans-for-the-easter-rising-a-load-of-claptrap-26725254.html

    http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/kevin-myers/kevin-myers-i-dont-believe-you-can-separate-the-stupefying-reverence-for-1916-from-the-mess-were-in-now-26647260.html

    Replies: @Rob McX, @John Derbyshire, @TheLatestInDecay

    Kevin Myers is the Bill Kristol of Ireland. Feisty indeed. They are known to be so. The mess “we” are in now… It is reminiscent of Sigmund Freud’s essay “The Crisis of OUR Culture.” As someone once said about Freud’s THE PSYCHOPATHOLOGY OF EVERYDAY LIFE, “Even the title is a lie.”

  • @Immigrant from former USSR
    @TheLatestInDecay

    Thank you, Mr. TheLatestInDecay.
    I just ordered the book from Amazon; $2.52 + $3.99 S&H, used, will be sent from UK.
    http://www.amazon.com/The-Desire-Please-Hamilton-Irishmen/dp/B0017KW9I8?

    Replies: @TheLatestInDecay

    It’s a fascinating book, which includes an unexpected account of a visit by the author to James Joyce in Paris. Apologies for my initial rudeness in recommending it.

    • Replies: @Immigrant from former USSR
    @TheLatestInDecay

    Dear Mr. TLID:
    Your original response was directed to "Anonymous",
    but I was happy to learn about the book.
    I have also just bought your other recommendation,
    "No more champagne, ..."
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/1250071267/ref=tmm_hrd_used_olp_sr?
    Your I.f.f.U.

  • @Kevin O'Keeffe
    @Anonymous

    "Irish immigration policy is a model for Western Europe. If you exclude British immigrants, about 2/3 of the immigrants in Ireland are from Poland or the Baltic states.

    You shouldn’t reflexively denounce everything Steve to do with immigration especially if it blurs the good, bad and ugly."


    While I have absolutely nothing against people from Poland and the Baltic states (quite the contrary, in fact), I still do not consider their large-scale immigration to Ireland to be a good thing, by any means. I want Ireland to remain Irish in character, not merely White (whatever that means). Yes, I'd much rather 30K Poles than 5K Nigerians, but that doesn't alter the reality I'd prefer none of each.

    Replies: @TheLatestInDecay

    I fully agree, Kevin. That being said, it is highly beneficial — and, I would argue, necessary for our survival — that all European peoples recognize that we are one. There are, of course, ways that we are not one. But the ways that we are are the ones that need to be most attended to at this stage of our engineered erasure. The Irish police search for notorious drunken driver Prawo Jazdy is a Google-worthy episode in contemporary intra-European multicultural confusion. Anyhow, beats getting blown up in the Brussels airport at the behest of one’s own supposed “leaders.”

  • @Anonymous
    @Carl

    This is reason #96847320 why I think that WNs are just as pathetic and non-nonsensical as leftists.

    Replies: @TheLatestInDecay

    And your own non-patheticness derives from where, exactly? Clearly not from your non-nonsensicality nor from your understanding of the English language. For what it’s worth, Alan Shatter’s Judaism was absolutely central to his position in the Irish government and to his public persona. Try googling his name and “holocaust,” you imbecile.

  • @Anonymous
    @TheLatestInDecay

    The Hamiltons were Anglo-Irish i.e. of English or Scottish Protestant descent, not Irish i.e. of Gaelic Irish descent.

    Replies: @TheLatestInDecay

    Do you believe that Anglo-Irish and Scottish are the same thing?

  • @John Derbyshire
    @Hodag

    Samuel Beckett taught at a tony boys' school in Belfast, late 1920s. He described the student body as: "The cream of Ulster -- rich and thick."

    Replies: @Irishman(), @TheLatestInDecay

    Beckett taught at Portora Royal School which is in Enniskillen, Co. Fermanagh — about 100 miles from Belfast, a meaningful distance on an island about the size of Maine.

    • Replies: @TheLatestInDecay
    @TheLatestInDecay

    Actually, my mistake. He went to Portora but taught at The Campbell School in Belfast, about whose students he made that comment.

  • @TheLatestInDecay
    @John Derbyshire

    Beckett taught at Portora Royal School which is in Enniskillen, Co. Fermanagh -- about 100 miles from Belfast, a meaningful distance on an island about the size of Maine.

    Replies: @TheLatestInDecay

    Actually, my mistake. He went to Portora but taught at The Campbell School in Belfast, about whose students he made that comment.

  • On Unz.com, Anatoly Karlin displays an interesting graph of scientists per capita of over 50 Soviet ethnic groups as of 1973. Not surprisingly, the #1 most scientific ethnicity in the Soviet Union were the Jews and the very last group were the Gypsies, with Gypsies producing about 1/500th as many professional scientists per capita as...
  • The ethnic Russians were even more formidably gifted before almost the entire intelligentsia and aristocracy were liquidated by the Jews.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus, @Ed
    @TheLatestInDecay

    This is some anti-Semetic revisionism. Jews were both the liquidators & the liquidated during the Soviet era.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @reiner Tor, @TheLatestInDecay, @Anonymous, @TheLatestInDecay, @anon

    , @Immigrant from former USSR
    @TheLatestInDecay

    Hello, Mr. TheLatestInDecay:
    I got in USPS mail the copy of the book "No More Champagne" about the finances of Churchill family, which book I bought following you mentioning it.
    Very interesting.
    What I can't understand is why did they need gambling ?
    Does it mean that their women were not attractive enough ?

    Replies: @TheLatestInDecay, @J.Ross, @TheLatestInDecay

    , @Peter Akuleyev
    @TheLatestInDecay


    The ethnic Russians were even more formidably gifted before almost the entire intelligentsia and aristocracy were liquidated by the Jews.
     
    Most of the liquidated or expelled intelligentsia and aristocracy was ethnic Russian in name and culture but with significant German, Swedish, Baltic, Polish and Tatar ancestry in their genetic make-up. Pure ethnic Russians, i.e. descendants of serfs, are not particularly intelligent.

    Replies: @5371, @Antonymous

  • @Immigrant from former USSR
    @TheLatestInDecay

    Hello, Mr. TheLatestInDecay:
    I got in USPS mail the copy of the book "No More Champagne" about the finances of Churchill family, which book I bought following you mentioning it.
    Very interesting.
    What I can't understand is why did they need gambling ?
    Does it mean that their women were not attractive enough ?

    Replies: @TheLatestInDecay, @J.Ross, @TheLatestInDecay

    It’s a good question but I don’t know the answer. Gambling has always been the vice I lacked. Both Churchill’s mother and his wife seem attractive in photos from the time of their respective weddings. The book makes clear how totally in the teeth of his Jewish bankers Churchill was when making his courageous and principled decisions to firebomb entire cities full of German men, women, and children and to destroy great centers of Europe’s cultural patrimony.

  • @Ed
    @TheLatestInDecay

    This is some anti-Semetic revisionism. Jews were both the liquidators & the liquidated during the Soviet era.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @reiner Tor, @TheLatestInDecay, @Anonymous, @TheLatestInDecay, @anon

    I believe the fictional belief system to which you allude is commonly known as “anti-Semitism.” But perhaps semen is somehow involved. They are a funny people. It’s interesting that Jews are so special that they get their own category within the general “racism” canard. This piece by Joseph Sobran is illuminating as to what anyone might possibly think they might mean when deploying that term.

    http://www.sobran.com/fearofjews.shtml

    I would doubt that you would have a genuine interest in learning the truth about the Judeo-Bolshevik slaughter and enslavement of the Russian people, but if you did I would recommend consulting RUSSIA’S AGONY by Robert Wilton, who was the Times of London correspondent in Russia at the time of the overthrow. It’s a book that’s oddly hard to come by.

  • @reiner Tor
    @Jack D


    While Jews were not targeted for collective punishment, plenty were caught up in the net of the purges.
     
    That was true of any other ethnic group in the USSR. But Jews' proportion at the GULAG was maybe half or less than other ethnic groups' portion. (Interestingly, Russians were also over-represented.) And most other ethnic groups were less well represented among the ones carrying out the purges. Eventually Jews were purged from the NKVD, but by that time the USSR had already murdered maybe 90% of its victims.

    And of course Jewish religious and cultural life was destroyed – nothing that was not co-opted by the Communist Party could be allowed to exist.
     
    The same was true of any other ethnicity, including Russians.

    Replies: @TheLatestInDecay

    This explains Stalin’s turn against the Jews:

    http://www.faem.com/yockey/yok52.htm

  • @International Jew
    @Sam Haysom

    No, no. From the 1700s to the 1990s (at least) there was a big German minority in Russia. Very high-achieving, they taught the Russians everything about industry, warfare and science.

    Replies: @TheLatestInDecay

    That’s right. Here below is from Nabokov’s SPEAK, MEMORY:

    “The nephew of Ivan and the son of Nikolay was my paternal grandfather Dmitri Nabokov (1827–1904), Minister of Justice for eight years, under two Tsars. He married (September 24, 1859) Maria, the seventeen-year-old daughter of Baron Ferdinand Nicolaus Viktor von Korff (1805–1869), a German general in the Russian service.

    In tenacious old families certain facial characteristics keep recurring as indicants and maker’s marks. The Nabokov nose (e.g. my grandfather’s) is of the Russian type with a soft round upturned tip and a gentle inslope in profile; the Korff nose (e.g. mine) is a handsome Germanic organ with a boldly boned bridge and a slightly tilted, distinctly grooved, fleshy end. The supercilious or surprised Nabokovs have rising eyebrows only proximally haired, thus fading toward the temples; the Korff eyebrow is more finely arched but likewise rather scanty. Otherwise the Nabokovs, as they recede through the picture gallery of time into the shadows, soon join the dim Rukavishnikovs of whom I knew only my mother and her brother Vasiliy, too small a sample for my present purpose. On the other hand, I see very clearly the women of the Korff line, beautiful, lily-and-rose girls, their high, flushed pommettes, pale blue eyes and that small beauty spot on one cheek, a patchlike mark, which my grandmother, my father, three or four of his siblings, some of my twenty-five cousins, my younger sister and my son Dmitri inherited in various stages of intensity as more or less distinct copies of the same print.

    My German great-grandfather, Baron Ferdinand von Korff, who married Nina Aleksandrovna Shishkov (1819–1895), was born in Königsberg in 1805 and after a successful military career, died in 1869 in his wife’s Volgan domain near Saratov. He was the grandson of Wilhelm Carl, Baron von Korff (1739–1799) and Eleonore Margarethe, Baroness von der Osten-Sacken (1731–1786), and the son of Nicolaus von Korff (d. 1812), a major in the Prussian army, and Antoinette Theodora Graun (d. 1859), who was the granddaughter of Carl Heinrich Graun, the composer.

    Antoinette’s mother, Elisabeth née Fischer (born 1760), was the daughter of Regina born Hartung (1732–1805), daughter of Johann Heinrich Hartung (1699–1765), head of a well-known publishing house in Königsberg. Elisabeth was a celebrated beauty. After divorcing her first husband, Justizrat Graun, the composer’s son, in 1795, she married the minor poet Christian August von Stägemann, and was the “motherly friend,” as my German source puts it, of a much better-known writer, Heinrich von Kleist (1777–1811), who, at thirty-three, had fallen passionately in love with her twelve-year-old daughter Hedwig Marie (later von Olfers). He is said to have called on the family, to say adieu before traveling to Wannsee—for the carrying out of an enthusiastic suicide pact with a sick lady—but was not admitted, it being laundry day in the Stägemann household. The number and diversity of contacts that my ancestors had with the world of letters are truly remarkable.

    Carl Heinrich Graun, the great-grandfather of Ferdinand von Korff, my great-grandfather, was born in 1701, at Wahrenbrück, Saxony. His father, August Graun (born 1670), an exciseman (“Königlicher Polnischer und Kurfürstlicher Sächsischer Akziseneinnehmer”—the elector in question being his namesake, August II, King of Poland) came from a long line of parsons. His great-great-grandfather, Wolfgang Graun, was, in 1575, organist at Plauen (near Wahrenbrück), where a statue of his descendant, the composer, graces a public garden. Carl Heinrich Graun died at the age of fifty-eight, in 1759, in Berlin, where seventeen years earlier, the new opera house had opened with his Caesar and Cleopatra. He was one of the most eminent composers of his time, and even the greatest, according to local necrologists touched by his royal patron’s grief. Graun is shown (posthumously) standing somewhat aloof, with folded arms, in Menzel’s picture of Frederick the Great playing Graun’s composition on the flute; reproductions of this kept following me through all the German lodgings I stayed in during my years of exile. I am told there is at the Sans-Souci Palace in Potsdam a contemporary painting representing Graun and his wife, Dorothea Rehkopp, sitting at the same clavecin. Musical encyclopedias often reproduce the portrait in the Berlin opera house where he looks very much like the composer Nikolay Dmitrievich Nabokov, my first cousin. An amusing little echo, to the tune of 250 dollars, from all those concerts under the painted ceilings of a gilded past, blandly reached me in heil-hitlering Berlin, in 1936, when the Graun family entail, basically a collection of pretty snuffboxes and other precious knick-knacks, whose value after passing through many avatars in the Prussian state bank had dwindled to 43,000 reichsmarks (about 10,000 dollars), was distributed among the provident composer’s descendants, the von Korff, von Wissmann and Nabokov clans (a fourth line, the Counts Asinari di San Marzano, had died out).”

  • @Immigrant from former USSR
    @TheLatestInDecay

    Hello, Mr. TheLatestInDecay:
    I got in USPS mail the copy of the book "No More Champagne" about the finances of Churchill family, which book I bought following you mentioning it.
    Very interesting.
    What I can't understand is why did they need gambling ?
    Does it mean that their women were not attractive enough ?

    Replies: @TheLatestInDecay, @J.Ross, @TheLatestInDecay

    I responded but my response was not published.

  • @Ed
    @TheLatestInDecay

    This is some anti-Semetic revisionism. Jews were both the liquidators & the liquidated during the Soviet era.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @reiner Tor, @TheLatestInDecay, @Anonymous, @TheLatestInDecay, @anon

    I responded but my response was not published.

  • @Antonymous
    @Peter Akuleyev

    Not my field, but ethnic Russian intelligence maligned as just serfs? History really is written by the victors. Many of the famous Russian contributions come from the 1800’s, since Bolshevism and Stalinism laid waste the intellectual elite of ethnic Russia. Perhaps this partially explains the Jewish over-representation in the later 20th c. I’m aware that from Brezhnev forward there was negative selection for Jewish Russians (mainly at the highest levels), but this pales in comparison to wholesale liquidation of families, institutions, and classes that ethnic Russians underwent between 1919 and the end of Stalin. The following scientists, composers, and writers are mainly mid-to-late 19th c, and ethnic Russian apart from mixed Dostoyevsky. Just off the top of my head – I’d love to see a thorough list of pioneering Russian work pre-revolution:

    Mendeleev – father of modern chemistry (outlined the periodic table)
    Pavlov – founder of modern physiology and classical conditioning
    Tchaikovsky
    Prokofiev (left Russia just after the revolution)
    Dostoyevsky
    Chekov
    Ivanovsky – discoverer of viruses
    Chernov – modern metallurgy and phase diagrams

    Replies: @TheLatestInDecay, @Peter Akuleyev, @5371

    Very true. I attempted to add to this thread earlier but was censored. Funny old world. I love Judeo-Bolsho-Churchillian America! We’re #1!

  • @Pseudonymous
    Has anyone read Solzhenitsyn's book on this subject?

    Replies: @The most deplorable one, @TheLatestInDecay

    Yes, I have. My comments on it will be suppressed on this site, so cannot be offered. Much though not all of it is available online in English translation.

  • One of the best kept secrets of the 21st Century is how large a role Diversity (in its various manifestations) played in housing bubble and bust of the last decade. So I've been slowly collecting studies by economists of the subject, such as how much worse the default rate was among minorities and immigrants. Last...
  • Q: Why am I getting punched in the face?
    A: Because someone wants to smash your face in.

    That’s the answer to your question, Steve. That’s the answer to all your questions.

    As you yourself have noticed with respect to Muslim immigration to Europe, among other things, “is it good for the Jews” isn’t always a good predictive model for determining which way the wind will blow. It has its limitations. Happily, my model is both simpler and more accurate.

    Try: “is it bad for the goys.”

    • Agree: Clyde, TheLatestInDecay
    • Disagree: Leftist conservative
    • Replies: @TheLatestInDecay
    @yesanonymous

    It is astonishing that this comment was published. I commend the author and the publisher.

  • On Unz.com, Anatoly Karlin displays an interesting graph of scientists per capita of over 50 Soviet ethnic groups as of 1973. Not surprisingly, the #1 most scientific ethnicity in the Soviet Union were the Jews and the very last group were the Gypsies, with Gypsies producing about 1/500th as many professional scientists per capita as...
  • @inertial
    @reiner Tor

    See my other comment regarding GULAG. As for the Jews and their attitude toward Communism...first of all, it's true that early on the Bolshevik government did not persecute Jews as Jews and even tried to protect them. This went a long way toward endearing some Jews toward the Soviets. But there were other aspects that were even more important.

    First of all, as you know, Jews are a mercantile minority. In the Tsarist Russia, almost all Jews hustled. Most poor Jews were what we now call small business owners or self-employed. Peddlers, shopkeepers, various tradesmen and artisans, agricultural entrepreneurs like Tevye the Dairyman, etc. And then there were more successful Jews: merchants, industrialists, or simply professionals such as doctors. Now imagine the Communists taking power. Suddenly property is expropriated (or just plain stolen.) Buying low and selling high becomes a crime of "Speculation." Employing people becomes another crime, "Exploitation." Anyone who is not a factory worker or a poor peasant (and very few Jews were these) is stripped of civil rights and made to sit in the back of the bus, metaphorically speaking.

    Can you imagine how a mercantile minority would fare under such a regime?

    A LOT of people lost all their property and their livelihood too. Yes, they weren't persecuted for being Jews but they lost everything they had. Jews were disproportionately hit with this kind of disaster because see above. The Communists had their own bright ideas about what to do with such people (e.g. Jewish collective farms.) These ideas mostly worked as well as you'd expect. Many Jews went to the major cities to find work there or try and join the new bureaucracy, or the army, or universities. Some tried to escape abroad and a few even succeeded. One example of such is Ayn Rand. Not a big fan of Communism, was she? Well, there was a lot more of that where she came from.

    Then there was religion. Most common Jews at the time were deeply religious. A large proportion was super religious, you may even say ultra-Orthodox. Incidentally, these guys are still around. They are all over the place in New York City and in Israel. But, for some reason, none of them are left in the places where they originated. Now why would they be? Yes, I know, it must be because after the Russian revolution 100% of the local Jews decided to go with Atheism. Not a single one wanted to keep the old religion. Yes, this must be it.

    Yeah right. The truth is, Judaism got badly hammered by the Communists. Quite a bit worse than Christianity (and Christianity got smashed horribly.)

    Replies: @TheLatestInDecay, @reiner Tor

    This comment is a normative inversion of actual history. The subject cannot be discussed on this site, but is of great interest and relevant to our likely fate. Robert Wilton, who was the Times of London correspondent in Russia at the time of the Bolshevik overthrow, wrote a great (and subsequently suppressed) book entitled RUSSIA’S AGONY.

  • From Politico: It’s easy to lay the blame at Donald Trump’s feet (after all, it’s hard to imagine another Republican candidate of the last four decades rejecting National Review so cavalierly), but this year’s split between intellectuals and the rank-and-file GOP goes beyond the front-runner. In fact, neither of Trump’s remaining rivals, Ted Cruz nor...
  • Who thinks of Bill Kristol as an intellectual? Why not Beria? He had a lot to say. Personally, I would suggest that Leon Klinghoffer made the kind of positive intellectual contribution that should be emulated more widely among the ruling elite. That’s the kind of thoughtful leadership under which both the party and the people could prosper. Five Year Plan In Four!

  • From The Atlantic: Okay, but the lengthy text analyzing the reasons behind Trump's surprise victory doesn't include the text string "immigra" ... On the other hand, the article's own graph is clear on the immigration issue's priority: To update James Carville's good advice to Bill Clinton in 1992: "It's the immigration, stupid." Brownstein does offer...
  • @Jon0815
    In the new CNN poll, which has Trump losing to Clinton by double digits, the public also prefers Clinton over Trump on immigration.

    In the past year, support for a fence on the border has actually fallen, to less than 40%. The likely reason is that Trump is so radioactive among the general public, he contaminates every issue he is associated with.

    I'm afraid that immigration hawks who supported Trump, will soon learn that having a bad standard-bearer for your cause is worse than having none.

    Replies: @Jack D, @kihowi, @TheLatestInDecay, @Anonymous, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @boogerbently, @Eric Novak, @Eric Novak

    Pirated video of Hillary’s soon-to-be-launched campaign strategy:


    Video Link

  • From The Guardian: Is the 'Ferguson effect' real? Researcher has second thoughts ‘Some version’ of theory linking protests over police killings to increase in crime may be best explanation for increase in murders in 2015, St Louis criminologist says after deeper analysis of crime trends Lois Beckett @loisbeckett Friday 13 May 2016 16.23 EDT For...
  • If Trump gets elected I’m moving to Haiti.

    • Replies: @antipater_1
    @TheLatestInDecay

    It will be the Central African Republic for me!

  • From the NYT: Review: ‘O.J.: Made in America,’ an Unflinching Take on His Rise and Fall O.J.: MADE IN AMERICA NYT Critics’ Pick Directed by Ezra Edelman Documentary 7h 30m FIND TICKETS By A. O. SCOTT MAY 19, 2016 ... “O.J.: Made in America,” a staggering five-part, nearly eight-hour installment in ESPN’s ambitious and innovative...
  • @Michelle
    To be fair, Black men beat the ever loving hell out of Black women way more than they do white women. Black women are almost totally inured to it. Many, if not most, Black women have been repeatedly beaten by one or more significant other. They also know, that most of the time, said significant other will stop short of killing them, so they don't necessarily make the leap from jealousy based abuse to murder. That is why Blacks on O.J.'s jury were not impressed by Nicole having a few bruises on her face, that just means love to them. Black women are incredibly loyal to Black men. I often think they are trying to make up for how often they (willingly) consorted with the slave masters and the slave masters' sons. In any case, we white women could take a leaf out of their book and be more supportive, loyal and faithful to our white men.

    Replies: @ziel, @anon, @Jim Sweeney, @Crawfurdmuir, @TheLatestInDecay, @Anonymous, @Buffalo Joe, @artichoke, @123, @Marcus

    Who cares? Let them sort that out amongst themselves. Does anyone have an idea on how to get statistics on white Americans murdered, raped, robbed and beaten by blacks since, say, the end of the Civil War until now?

    • Replies: @Erik Sieven
    @TheLatestInDecay

    this is something which makes me wonder. There are so many young men who spent their days mostly in the internet, working on the strangest things, statistics of computer games or something like that. And also there is this whole alt right / hbd sphere. Why is there no overlap, nobody who gets access to official data which might be public but underreported or not public yet and thus is able to draw a realistic picture of interracial vioelence, from beatings on the school yard up to murder?

    Replies: @Diversity Heretic

    , @Tex
    @TheLatestInDecay


    Does anyone have an idea on how to get statistics on white Americans murdered, raped, robbed and beaten by blacks since, say, the end of the Civil War until now?
     
    I'd say probably not, since it is inconceivable that all those convictions weren't racist frame ups. You could gather the numbers, but The Narrative insists they only show how racist whites are.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    @TheLatestInDecay

    The Lastest, Don't need stats, just make them up, like the "thousands of blacks lynched by whites."

  • In the NYT, veteran Democratic pundit Tom Edsall offers an iSteveish column from the Democratic side: The Democrats have been boasting since the 1990s that they are going to impose one party rule on America by importing countless foreign ringers to vote for them ... Why wouldn't Americans resent this? Part of the explanation for...
  • Trump is no Hitler, but he’s the best we’ve got.

    • Agree: AndrewR, Joe Walker
  • Here's the single most famous photo of Muhammad Ali, as he casts off the oppressive shackles of traditional white sportsmanship and dares to screech abuse at the fallen body of Sheriff Bull Connor. This picture is universally beloved for marking the moment in 1965 of Black Liberation when blacks freed themselves finally to stand up...
  • Update: NY Daily News identifies Minnesota shooter cop as Spanish surnamed. UpUpdate: Lawyer for cop says his client is "Mexican, not Asian."
  • @Hepp
    Looks like this was the first of these shooting where the guy didn't have 10 prior arrests and 5 kids. I tend to judge these things by the "are we better off with this guy gone" standard.

    Replies: @Wharf, @Anon, @anonymous-antimarxist, @e, @TheLatestInDecay, @Dave Pinsen

    Of course “we” are better off without him. His girlfriend was amazing, as though she were complaining about a too-warm McFlurry as he bled out.

  • Hillary's Trump-Putin conspiracy theorizing doesn't go well today. I was just thinking up something to write about how you shouldn't automatically assume that Trump's recent momentum will continue; after all, Hillary has been resting up to make a splash starting on Labor Day, the traditional beginning of the sprint to the finish line in presidential...
  • The panicking eyes of her handler behind the microphones are museum-quality.

    • Replies: @The Only Catholic Unionist
    @TheLatestInDecay

    Given the typical end of those who have allowed the Clintons to look bad, I hope he got a sizable insurance policy to take care of his family before he took on this gig, since I'm thinking he's uninsurable now ...

  • Labor Day is the traditional kickoff of the full-scale Presidential campaign. Is Hillary tanned, rested, and ready? She walks up the steps well but then ...
  • I’m pretty sure she refers to Kaine as “Jim” at the very end of her remarks.

  • I don't really know how this would work if a Presidential candidate decided to step down for a more effective candidate.
  • @Kristen
    Hillary seems to be dropping, even if she's not dropping out. See 9-11 memorial events.

    Replies: @TheLatestInDecay

    I think she was “taking a knee” in solidarity with Colin Koepernick .

  • An op-ed in the NYT by a Brown U. student with the great name Benjamin Gladstone (referencing the arch-rival Victorian prime ministers Benjamin Disraeli and William Gladstone; Benjamin Gladstone is kind of like Alexander Jefferson or John Fitzgerald Nixon): Gladstone doesn't mention that the organization questioning bringing more Muslim refugees in is Americans for Peace...
  • It is actually not healthy for white Americans to persist in their belief that Jews, who have actively degraded American society at every level, might somehow turn out to be appreciative friends of our people. That has never been the case, and the increasingly evident nature of this is a positive. A divorce is necessary and desirable.

  • Steve, Any chance that my comment could make it out of development hell? Maybe just suppress it if you find it to be hatethink.

  • From the Irish Times: White privilege is real and it exists in Ireland White Irish people are expert at denying the extent of society’s racial prejudice Thu, Oct 20, 2016, 01:00 Dean Van Nguyen The expression “white privilege” has been around for years but “white skin privilege” has recently been repopularised in the US, where...
  • Well I would certainly tell Nguyen to go back to his own country and, additionally, I would reject his “right” to “identify” as Irish. I would go further, and I’d target him with a racial slur. The racial slur I would use would be “slope,” not that I’m especially clear on what that means (and not that it matters). I’d probably also characterize him as a faggot, which he clearly seems to be. It is interesting that a people (my own) who fought, or struggled, against their neighbors and close genetic relations (the perfidious, Jew-loving, brother-war-instigating ruling people of England) for so many centuries should, basically, moments after independence, offer up their nation to whomever — well, that is interesting. Disheartening, of course, but of interest.

  • From the Podesta emails: Michael Werz is a German academic at Podesta's old Center for American Progress. From the CAP website: I don't know why Werz didn't want to talk to Podesta about
  • The remark about the liquor store is presumably a joke in reference to the Italian liqueur “Cynar.”

  • From the New York Times: The Inuit are a type of Eskimo (not all Eskimos are Inuits). This is an example of Greg Cochran's insight in the 1990s that modern humans probably inherited cold climate adaptations from archaic human populations through interbreeding. This was an overl
  • It should go without saying that “humans” never interbred with Neanderthals or Denisovans. Human culture is the result of the interbreeding of Homo sapiens with Neanderthals and Denisovans. We are in the early phases of coming to an understanding that the Neanderthal admixture was the necessary element in producing “humans” — of the sort, at least, who could in turn produce “culture.”

  • From the NYT, catching up on an iSteve story from a few days ago: The Islamic community consists of 1.6 billion people, 40+ countries, and all the oil of the Persian Gulf. But it is punching down to resist the Islamic community incorporating Europe and North America. Several of Mr. Dawkins’s comments on social media...
  • Strange that brave Richard Dawkins has never found it within his materialist world-view to criticize the Judaic persuasion, or even its infant-fellating religious aspects. Why might that be, one wonders?

    • Replies: @sabril
    @TheLatestInDecay

    Perhaps he actually does criticize Judaism but you choose not to see it?

    Richard Dawkins debates a Jew:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCBIReq7UNY

    Richard Dawkins accused of anti-Semitic remarks:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9542043/Richard-Dawkins-attacked-for-anti-Semitic-remarks-about-Jewish-God.html

    You can find more by using marvelous web site known as "Google."

    Replies: @TheLatestInDecay, @silviosilver, @Hippopotamusdrome

  • @sabril
    @TheLatestInDecay

    Perhaps he actually does criticize Judaism but you choose not to see it?

    Richard Dawkins debates a Jew:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCBIReq7UNY

    Richard Dawkins accused of anti-Semitic remarks:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9542043/Richard-Dawkins-attacked-for-anti-Semitic-remarks-about-Jewish-God.html

    You can find more by using marvelous web site known as "Google."

    Replies: @TheLatestInDecay, @silviosilver, @Hippopotamusdrome

    Being accused of being anti-Semitic (a nonsense term) is the inevitable result of a non-Jew mentioning Jews. Having a polite debate with a rabbi hardly represents an effort to comprehend or expose the breadth and reach of the destructive power of the organized Jewish community, secular and religious. If one were to look honestly and dispassionately at that, one might be forced to view it as “the greatest force for evil in the world today.” Thanks for the heads up about “Google.” That thing is way better than Dogpile! Must have been invented by some incredibly clever people with connections to a broad ethnic network willing to fund it into a position of world domination.

    • Replies: @sabril
    @TheLatestInDecay


    Being accused of being anti-Semitic (a nonsense term) is the inevitable result of a non-Jew mentioning Jews.
     
    If I can point to an example of a prominent non-Jew who mentioned Jews and was not accused of anti-Semitism, will you concede that you are wrong?

    By the way "anti-Semitic" has a clear definition. I realize that you wish to deprive your adversaries of a handy and agreed-upon way of referring to anti-Jewish sentiment, but your wishes do not make reality.

    Oh, and do you still insist that Dawkins has never criticized Judaism? Or have you moved on to Plan B?

    Replies: @Opinionator, @TheLatestInDecay

    , @Moses
    @TheLatestInDecay

    The term "anti-Semitic" makes no sense. "Semitic" can include peoples who are not of the Tribe.

    "Anti-Jew" is clearer.

  • @sabril
    @TheLatestInDecay


    Being accused of being anti-Semitic (a nonsense term) is the inevitable result of a non-Jew mentioning Jews.
     
    If I can point to an example of a prominent non-Jew who mentioned Jews and was not accused of anti-Semitism, will you concede that you are wrong?

    By the way "anti-Semitic" has a clear definition. I realize that you wish to deprive your adversaries of a handy and agreed-upon way of referring to anti-Jewish sentiment, but your wishes do not make reality.

    Oh, and do you still insist that Dawkins has never criticized Judaism? Or have you moved on to Plan B?

    Replies: @Opinionator, @TheLatestInDecay

    I did respond to your fatuous post but my reply, which consisted almost entirely of a quotation from perhaps the most prominent book of the 20th century, was not approved by moderation. Maybe this more arcane effort will make it through:

    Video Link

    • Replies: @sabril
    @TheLatestInDecay


    I did respond to your fatuous post
     
    Lol, it's fatuous to patiently demonstrate why you are wrong?

    Anyway, I didn't look at your video because I'm quite confident that your response is simply to change the subject yet again with the online equivalent of a Gish Gallop.

    The fact is that (1) Dawkins has criticized Judaism; and (2) Non-Jews can and do discuss Judaism without either engaging in anti-Semitism or being accused of anti-Semitism; (3) the word "anti-Semitism" means "hostility or prejudice towards Jews or Judaism" even though there exist Semitic languages which are not Hebrew.

    I would also note that the Quebecois are not considered to be "Latino" even though French is a Latin-derived language.

    There do exist people who are particularly hostile and/or prejudiced towards Jews and/or Judaism. In common parlance, those people are referred to as "anti-Semites." Quibbling over the use of the word "anti-Semite" won't change the reality of the situation.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @TheLatestInDecay

  • @sabril
    @TheLatestInDecay


    I did respond to your fatuous post
     
    Lol, it's fatuous to patiently demonstrate why you are wrong?

    Anyway, I didn't look at your video because I'm quite confident that your response is simply to change the subject yet again with the online equivalent of a Gish Gallop.

    The fact is that (1) Dawkins has criticized Judaism; and (2) Non-Jews can and do discuss Judaism without either engaging in anti-Semitism or being accused of anti-Semitism; (3) the word "anti-Semitism" means "hostility or prejudice towards Jews or Judaism" even though there exist Semitic languages which are not Hebrew.

    I would also note that the Quebecois are not considered to be "Latino" even though French is a Latin-derived language.

    There do exist people who are particularly hostile and/or prejudiced towards Jews and/or Judaism. In common parlance, those people are referred to as "anti-Semites." Quibbling over the use of the word "anti-Semite" won't change the reality of the situation.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @TheLatestInDecay

    Thanks for the patience, friend. Why is it that Jews have their own special category of racism? There really is something special — chosen even — about your marvelous people…

  • Annihilation is a new mid-budget art house science fiction / horror movie from writer-director Alex Garland. He started off as a writer for sci-fi movies 28 Days Later, which relaunched the zombie craze, Sunshine, and Never Let Me Go. His first directorial effort was the brainy Ex Machina with Oscar Isaac as a Hank Scorpio-like...
  • Sounds highly derivative of Andrei Tarkovsky’s “Stalker” — itself based on the Strugatsky Brothers’ novel “Roadside Picnic.’

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @TheLatestInDecay

    I’d like to read the Strugatsky brothers’ Noon: 22nd Century, but copies are pricy on Amazon.

  • Brett Kavanaugh is quite Irish Catholic. Kavanaugh means "student of Kevin" going back to St. Kevin. His basketball coach at Georgetown Prep was Kevin Dowd, the Republican brother of New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd. (Kevin annually writes one of Maureen's columns and is really good at it. I'm looking forward to what Kevin Dowd...
  • Like Brett Kavanaugh, I was born into and raised in a large Irish American Catholic family (60 first cousins), graduated in 1987 from a Jesuit high school that was largely Irish American, and then went on to a prestigious university that had been founded by and at the time was still dominated by WASPs, a group I was never tempted to think of myself as belonging to, though I had no animus towards them. As I did for years, I expect that Kavanaugh thought of the Jews as an intelligent, industrious, materialistic, highly driven, neurotic, nepotistic, physically unappealing bunch of dorkwads and sluts who, for all that, were grounded in some sort of semi-related religious/moral code that, along with a seemingly somewhat comparable immigrant experience to ours, made us at least partially compatible. I imagine that after the past few weeks he now knows otherwise.

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Jake
    @TheLatestInDecay

    I hope he knows better now. But his knowing better has to be about much more than Jews.

  • @slumber_j

    The Kavanaugh Kase has elicited a lot of amusing ethnic stereotyping about Irish drinking, especially from Jewish pundits, who tend to drink less and know less about drunkenness.
     
    This is a very good and astute insight that I never would have come up with. And that's despite the fact that I'm familiar with the phenomenon and know exactly when I became aware of it.

    In college I took two poetry-writing seminars, one with a guy named Michael Blumenthal and the other with Boylston Professor of Rhetoric and Oratory and future Nobelist Seamus Heaney. One morning in the Blumenthal era he was seeming distinctly (and uncharacteristically, and sheepishly) rough as the class assembled, and once we were all there he felt compelled to account for it.

    "I went out last night with Seamus Heaney for drinks, which we do every year," he said. "Jews can't drink."

    Actually, I'd argue that it's the Irish who can't drink, and I say that as about a one-third Irishman myself. But I knew what he meant.

    Of the many Jews I've met, I've only known one really big drinker. Perhaps significantly, he's Sephardic.

    Replies: @Prester John, @william munny, @Jack D, @Anonymous, @TheLatestInDecay

    Do you even *know Seamus Heaney?

    • Replies: @slumber_j
    @TheLatestInDecay

    Good point. We know who each other are, dude.

    But as I explained to your then-eight-year-or-so-old daughter: Yes, I do. Or did, anyway.

    Replies: @slumber_j

  • From the New York Times: Note, this video is something you may not want to see: We have so many security cameras and such good facial recognition software that it's nuts that there are any premeditated homicides these days. But from ABC 7 Chicago:
  • @The Germ Theory of Disease
    There's something about all the current craziness that has left me confused, disappointed, and maybe a little heart-broken. Mmaybe some people here have theories to explain.

    Throughout all these riots and violence, I've been waiting for some ambitious younger leadership (say, junior Congressman on the make, governor of a small state) to emerge as the voice of reason, acknowledge the frustrations of the crowd, but then call for an orderly, methodical, practical investigation into reform efforts, instead of dumb buzzwords like defund the police. It seems like a no-brainer, a winning strategy and a way to catapult yourself into the front ranks.

    Why hasn't it happened? Hell, where the heck is Mayor Pete? Just last year he wanted to be president, but now not a peep out of him when we need calm authoritative voices. Did he just give up on leading the country? Where's the guy I never heard of who enters from stage right and unexpectedly dazzles the audience? This was a major opportunity, why no takers?

    Replies: @peterike, @tyrone, @anon, @TheLatestInDecay

    Because, as a great man once said: “ Bluntly put, America is occupied by the Jewish Empire, in the same way that India was occupied by the East India Company/British Empire/Raj, appellation n’importe-quoi. A surprisingly small number of people controlling a vast etc etc you know the math. The American people are under the full colonial occupation of the imperial Jews and their proxies, janissaries, mercenaries, cat’s-paws and allies. The American people at present have zero political freedom, zero political agency or voice, none. All American institutions — ALL of them — are firmly locked up under Jewish control and constraint.”

    Isn’t is strange that we have heard nothing on these recent matters from Michael Bloomberg, who took his NYPD bodyguards with him when he left office after his illegal third term, and who quite recently aspired to be President? Think of everyone else from whom we’ve heard nothing. At present, the hostile elite is busy finishing its strangulation of the dispossessed majority. A voice of reason would not fare well, were he to be allowed to fare at all.

    • Replies: @TheLatestInDecay
    @TheLatestInDecay

    My comment has been “awaiting moderation” for five or six hours. It consists almost entirely of a quote from a comment previously published on this forum. Presumably this has been “pre-moderated”....

    Replies: @TheLatestInDecay

  • @TheLatestInDecay
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Because, as a great man once said: “ Bluntly put, America is occupied by the Jewish Empire, in the same way that India was occupied by the East India Company/British Empire/Raj, appellation n’importe-quoi. A surprisingly small number of people controlling a vast etc etc you know the math. The American people are under the full colonial occupation of the imperial Jews and their proxies, janissaries, mercenaries, cat’s-paws and allies. The American people at present have zero political freedom, zero political agency or voice, none. All American institutions — ALL of them — are firmly locked up under Jewish control and constraint.”

    Isn’t is strange that we have heard nothing on these recent matters from Michael Bloomberg, who took his NYPD bodyguards with him when he left office after his illegal third term, and who quite recently aspired to be President? Think of everyone else from whom we’ve heard nothing. At present, the hostile elite is busy finishing its strangulation of the dispossessed majority. A voice of reason would not fare well, were he to be allowed to fare at all.

    Replies: @TheLatestInDecay

    My comment has been “awaiting moderation” for five or six hours. It consists almost entirely of a quote from a comment previously published on this forum. Presumably this has been “pre-moderated”….

    • Replies: @TheLatestInDecay
    @TheLatestInDecay

    As Charles Kinbote once said, “I trust the reader has enjoyed this note.”

  • @TheLatestInDecay
    @TheLatestInDecay

    My comment has been “awaiting moderation” for five or six hours. It consists almost entirely of a quote from a comment previously published on this forum. Presumably this has been “pre-moderated”....

    Replies: @TheLatestInDecay

    As Charles Kinbote once said, “I trust the reader has enjoyed this note.”

  • Melrose is in Massachusetts. Mexican ladies famously tend to see Jesus or the Virgin Mary in the mold growing on an old tortilla. But, that's at least visualizing something Good in the world? What is it when large numbers of the public are constantly imagining manifestations of Evil in the world? It's reminiscent of Stalinist...
  • @The Germ Theory of Disease
    Oh FFS this never stops. There's no use trying to 'splain this to regular people, but the iSteve crowd are literate and generally a cut above, so here goes nuthin...

    For the last G-d damn time, "Black Lives Matter" is NOT a statement. It is a slogan, a brand name, and a political rallying cry. To counter it with "all lives matter" is sort of like trying to persuade someone that Mayor McCheese is not "really" the rightful mayor of McDonaldtown.

    Do you see now, how stupid it all looks?

    "You deserve a break today!"
    -- No, my libertarian economic principles say I do NOT deserve a break today.

    "McDonald's makes McBurgers, McDonald's makes McFries. McDonald's makes McWonderful Things, for kids of every size!"

    -- No, there are no such things as McBurgers or McWonderful Things, I am launching a class-action law suit against these liars!

    Stop. Being. Retards.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Anon, @TheLatestInDecay, @TheLatestInDecay, @vhrm

    As Alice Walker has correctly if uneuphoniously written:

    To Study The Talmud

    ©2017 by Alice Walker

    The first time I was accused

    Of appearing to be anti-Semitic

    The shock did not wear off
    For days.
    The man who charged me
    Was a friend.
    A Jewish Soul
    Who I thought understood
    Or could learn to understand
    Almost anything.

    He could not understand
    However
    Why I thought Israel should give back
    The land it took
    From a poorly defended
    People in a war that lasted
    Six days. I cringed
    About our small house
    In Mississippi (where black people
    Often assumed he was a racist)
    Deeply offended by his attempt
    To insult my character
    And spoke to him
    Earnestly of “dignity” “justice”
    “honor” and “peace.”

    [MORE]

    Sometimes, later in life,
    You do laugh at yourself.
    You understand, finally,
    That you’ve understood
    Nothing. Nothing at all.
    That in this case, for instance,
    That of the famed Six Day War,
    It was all a show,
    A true “Theatre” war;
    The battlefield a stage,
    Though bombs and bullets were real.
    Only the people who lost the battle
    Got a close-up
    Of the set.
    And the set-up.

    Later I would march
    Or be arrested
    Protesting this war and that
    And marvel how it never mattered.
    On days we marched in our tens of thousands
    The people we hoped to influence
    Were taking a holiday. Bush was
    good at this. He let the media
    Spread the word he was chillin’ on his
    12,000 or is it 20,000
    Acre ranch.
    Bill and Barack made themselves
    Scarce.

    When I was in Palestine
    As an elder
    Doing my job
    Of keeping tabs
    On Earth’s children
    I remembered my concern
    And how my friend
    Had brushed it off.

    “Israel needs that land to protect itself.”
    He said. As though this should be
    Self- evident. It wasn’t then;
    It isn’t now.

    The land taken
    Has never been returned.
    In fact, more stolen land
    Has followed the first assaults
    And thefts.
    Palestinian children, after years
    Of throwing stones
    At grown up assassins
    In helmets and armored tanks
    Are killing themselves
    These days
    To save their murderers
    The trouble.

    Unlike most Americans
    I have witnessed Palestine
    Under Israeli rule. It is demonic
    To the core. But where to look
    For the inspiration
    For so much evil? Where
    To find the teachings that influence
    And sanction such limitless cruel behavior?

    Where to find that part
    Of the puzzle that is missing?
    We’ve intuited there must be one.
    And we were right.

    *

    We must go back
    As grown ups, now,
    Not as the gullible children we once were,
    And study our programming,
    From the beginning.
    All of it: The Christian, the Jewish,
    The Muslim; even the Buddhist. All of it, without exception,
    At the root.

    For the study of Israel, of Gaza, of Palestine,
    Of the bombed out cities of the Middle East,
    Of the creeping Palestination
    Of our police, streets, and prisons
    In America,
    Of war in general,
    It is our duty, I believe, to study The Talmud.
    It is within this book that,
    I believe, we will find answers
    To some of the questions
    That most perplex us.

    Where to start?

    You will find some information,
    Slanted, unfortunately,
    By Googling. For a more in depth study
    I recommend starting with YouTube. Simply follow the trail of “The
    Talmud” as its poison belatedly winds its way
    Into our collective consciousness.

    Some of what you find will sound
    Too crazy to be true. Unfortunately those bits are likely
    To be true. Some of the more evasive studies
    Will exhibit unbelievable attempts
    At sugar coating extremely disagreeable pills.
    But hang in there, checking
    And double checking, listening to everybody,
    Even the teachers with the twisted pasts
    That scare you the most,
    And the taped rants of outraged citizens that sound
    Like madcap characters on Car Talk
    Except they are not laughing
    But are righteously outraged.

    Study hard, with an open
    If deeply offended mind,
    Until you can sift the false
    From the true.

    Is Jesus boiling eternally in hot excrement,
    For his “crime” of throwing the bankers
    Out of the Temple? For loving, standing with,
    And defending
    The poor? Was his mother, Mary,
    A whore?

    Are Goyim (us) meant to be slaves of Jews, and not only
    That, but to enjoy it?
    Are three year old (and a day) girls eligible for marriage and intercourse?
    Are young boys fair game for rape?
    Must even the best of the Goyim (us, again) be killed?
    Pause a moment and think what this could mean
    Or already has meant
    In our own lifetime.

    You may find that as the cattle
    We have begun to feel we are
    We have an ancient history of oppression
    Of which most of us have not been even vaguely
    Aware. You will find that we, Goyim, sub-humans, animals
    -The Palestinians of Gaza
    The most obvious representatives of us
    At the present time – are a cruel example of what may be done
    With impunity, and without conscience,
    By a Chosen people,
    To the vast majority of the people
    On the planet
    Who were not Chosen.
    Not chosen to receive the same dubious
    “Blessing” of
    Supremacy over the Earth,
    Humans, and Beasts of this realm. As is
    Stated plainly in the first chapter
    Of the Bible we all read.
    The Unchosen who, until now,
    Were too scared of being
    Called names
    To demand to know why.

    It is a “Blessing” Jesus did not want.
    One that, risking crucifixion, he refused.
    One reason he is loved
    By those who recognize a good
    And righteous person
    When they encounter one.
    Seen in this light he wasn’t even
    A spiritual progressive, but a committed
    Revolutionary: a Che Guevara
    Of the ancient past.

    A past as scary, if not scarier, than
    Our own time: A past that,
    Unfortunately, is not even past (quoting
    Faulkner).

    We discover this
    To our enlightened grief
    As we study
    The Talmud,
    Our own ignorance,
    And the devastating impact of both
    On our abandoned world.

    • Replies: @anon
    @TheLatestInDecay

    THE Alice Walker. Can't get out of high school without reading it, hearing it and having to praise it.

    Such "poetry" has always reminded me of some dorky kid in the back of the classroom cutting farts at random intervals for an entire class period. It's not just annoying and insulting, it's not just lousy and stinky, it's that when you think it's done....braaaaap....out comes another stanza.

    Is it done? Done yet? Finally? Braaaaaaap....phew, guess not. Is it done? Done now?

    Braaaaap....PHEW! that was a nasty one.

    , @black sea
    @TheLatestInDecay


    in a war that lasted
    Six days.
     
    Reading this felt like it took six days.
    , @Nicholas Stix
    @TheLatestInDecay

    Chopping up an essay does not a poem make.

  • @The Germ Theory of Disease
    Oh FFS this never stops. There's no use trying to 'splain this to regular people, but the iSteve crowd are literate and generally a cut above, so here goes nuthin...

    For the last G-d damn time, "Black Lives Matter" is NOT a statement. It is a slogan, a brand name, and a political rallying cry. To counter it with "all lives matter" is sort of like trying to persuade someone that Mayor McCheese is not "really" the rightful mayor of McDonaldtown.

    Do you see now, how stupid it all looks?

    "You deserve a break today!"
    -- No, my libertarian economic principles say I do NOT deserve a break today.

    "McDonald's makes McBurgers, McDonald's makes McFries. McDonald's makes McWonderful Things, for kids of every size!"

    -- No, there are no such things as McBurgers or McWonderful Things, I am launching a class-action law suit against these liars!

    Stop. Being. Retards.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Anon, @TheLatestInDecay, @TheLatestInDecay, @vhrm

    As Alice Walker has correctly if uneuphoniously written:

    To Study The Talmud

    ©2017 by Alice Walker

    The first time I was accused

    Of appearing to be anti-Semitic

    The shock did not wear off
    For days.
    The man who charged me
    Was a friend.
    A Jewish Soul
    Who I thought understood
    Or could learn to understand
    Almost anything.

    [MORE]

    He could not understand
    However
    Why I thought Israel should give back
    The land it took
    From a poorly defended
    People in a war that lasted
    Six days. I cringed
    About our small house
    In Mississippi (where black people
    Often assumed he was a racist)
    Deeply offended by his attempt
    To insult my character
    And spoke to him
    Earnestly of “dignity” “justice”
    “honor” and “peace.”

    Sometimes, later in life,
    You do laugh at yourself.
    You understand, finally,
    That you’ve understood
    Nothing. Nothing at all.
    That in this case, for instance,
    That of the famed Six Day War,
    It was all a show,
    A true “Theatre” war;
    The battlefield a stage,
    Though bombs and bullets were real.
    Only the people who lost the battle
    Got a close-up
    Of the set.
    And the set-up.

    Later I would march
    Or be arrested
    Protesting this war and that
    And marvel how it never mattered.
    On days we marched in our tens of thousands
    The people we hoped to influence
    Were taking a holiday. Bush was
    good at this. He let the media
    Spread the word he was chillin’ on his
    12,000 or is it 20,000
    Acre ranch.
    Bill and Barack made themselves
    Scarce.

    When I was in Palestine
    As an elder
    Doing my job
    Of keeping tabs
    On Earth’s children
    I remembered my concern
    And how my friend
    Had brushed it off.

    “Israel needs that land to protect itself.”
    He said. As though this should be
    Self- evident. It wasn’t then;
    It isn’t now.

    The land taken
    Has never been returned.
    In fact, more stolen land
    Has followed the first assaults
    And thefts.
    Palestinian children, after years
    Of throwing stones
    At grown up assassins
    In helmets and armored tanks
    Are killing themselves
    These days
    To save their murderers
    The trouble.

    Unlike most Americans
    I have witnessed Palestine
    Under Israeli rule. It is demonic
    To the core. But where to look
    For the inspiration
    For so much evil? Where
    To find the teachings that influence
    And sanction such limitless cruel behavior?

    Where to find that part
    Of the puzzle that is missing?
    We’ve intuited there must be one.
    And we were right.

    *

    We must go back
    As grown ups, now,
    Not as the gullible children we once were,
    And study our programming,
    From the beginning.
    All of it: The Christian, the Jewish,
    The Muslim; even the Buddhist. All of it, without exception,
    At the root.

    For the study of Israel, of Gaza, of Palestine,
    Of the bombed out cities of the Middle East,
    Of the creeping Palestination
    Of our police, streets, and prisons
    In America,
    Of war in general,
    It is our duty, I believe, to study The Talmud.
    It is within this book that,
    I believe, we will find answers
    To some of the questions
    That most perplex us.

    Where to start?

    You will find some information,
    Slanted, unfortunately,
    By Googling. For a more in depth study
    I recommend starting with YouTube. Simply follow the trail of “The
    Talmud” as its poison belatedly winds its way
    Into our collective consciousness.

    Some of what you find will sound
    Too crazy to be true. Unfortunately those bits are likely
    To be true. Some of the more evasive studies
    Will exhibit unbelievable attempts
    At sugar coating extremely disagreeable pills.
    But hang in there, checking
    And double checking, listening to everybody,
    Even the teachers with the twisted pasts
    That scare you the most,
    And the taped rants of outraged citizens that sound
    Like madcap characters on Car Talk
    Except they are not laughing
    But are righteously outraged.

    Study hard, with an open
    If deeply offended mind,
    Until you can sift the false
    From the true.

    Is Jesus boiling eternally in hot excrement,
    For his “crime” of throwing the bankers
    Out of the Temple? For loving, standing with,
    And defending
    The poor? Was his mother, Mary,
    A whore?

    Are Goyim (us) meant to be slaves of Jews, and not only
    That, but to enjoy it?
    Are three year old (and a day) girls eligible for marriage and intercourse?
    Are young boys fair game for rape?
    Must even the best of the Goyim (us, again) be killed?
    Pause a moment and think what this could mean
    Or already has meant
    In our own lifetime.

    You may find that as the cattle
    We have begun to feel we are
    We have an ancient history of oppression
    Of which most of us have not been even vaguely
    Aware. You will find that we, Goyim, sub-humans, animals
    -The Palestinians of Gaza
    The most obvious representatives of us
    At the present time – are a cruel example of what may be done
    With impunity, and without conscience,
    By a Chosen people,
    To the vast majority of the people
    On the planet
    Who were not Chosen.
    Not chosen to receive the same dubious
    “Blessing” of
    Supremacy over the Earth,
    Humans, and Beasts of this realm. As is
    Stated plainly in the first chapter
    Of the Bible we all read.
    The Unchosen who, until now,
    Were too scared of being
    Called names
    To demand to know why.

    It is a “Blessing” Jesus did not want.
    One that, risking crucifixion, he refused.
    One reason he is loved
    By those who recognize a good
    And righteous person
    When they encounter one.
    Seen in this light he wasn’t even
    A spiritual progressive, but a committed
    Revolutionary: a Che Guevara
    Of the ancient past.

    A past as scary, if not scarier, than
    Our own time: A past that,
    Unfortunately, is not even past (quoting
    Faulkner).

    We discover this
    To our enlightened grief
    As we study
    The Talmud,
    Our own ignorance,
    And the devastating impact of both
    On our abandoned world.

  • Poetry magazine was founded in Chicago in 1912 by Harriet Monroe, one of the great literary editors of American history. In June 1915, Poetry unveiled a new poet to the world with The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock by T.S. Eliot. One of Monroe's innovations was that poets should be paid a non-negligible amount...
  • @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @slumber_j

    TI'd say "too bad he missed," just for the laugh, except that I bet Paul Muldoon is a very nice man. And his sort of intricacy is quite adventuresome in its way, I find him a tad baffling but I don't think he's workshoppy. I respect his particular brand of nuttiness.

    You know who deserves more respect? John Berryman.

    Meanwhile (it's not as though I have to make the point, since it appears nous sommes d'accord), just for the benefit of the smart teenager somewhere who is secretly reading this blog, searching for clues, hoping his teachers don't find out: for comparison purposes, read a long blathering page of inconsequential Jorie Graham musings (this woman wins Pulitzers and so forth), then try this on for size:

    Tie
    Yourself
    To me.
    No one else.
    No,
    You're not
    Rid of me.
    Yeah,
    You're not
    Rid of me.
    Night
    And day,
    I breathe:
    !, !, !, you're not
    Rid of me.
    Yeah,
    You're not
    Rid of me.
    I'll make you lick my injuries.
    I'm gonna twist your head off babe.
    Til you say:
    Don't you wish you
    Never,
    Never met her, don't you
    Don't you wish you
    Never met her!
    LICK MY LEGS!
    I'M ON FIRE!


    Certainly clears the nasal passages, doesn't it.

    Replies: @slumber_j, @slumber_j, @TheLatestInDecay

    Some might say that Paul Muldoon could probably use a good punch in the face… But I say that would hardly be the proper response to the fact that he’s a man who’s written almost nothing of any merit since his extraordinary book “The Annals of Chile,” all the way back in 1994. That’s a long time to be producing volume after volume of well-tooled, self-imitative, Escheresque baubles to a continuous fawning reception of praise and prizes, basically the literary establishment’s equivalent of a lifelong champagne facial. There are a few reasons why there appears to be so little poetry of interest being written at the moment, but a primary one is that that establishment — like the tribally-related one running Hollywood — has reached a point of nepotistic collapse. That being said, there are still superb, moving poems being written and sometimes even published. George Franklin’s “Talking Head,” published in the Winter/Spring 2009 issue of the often very good journal “Epiphany,” is probably the best poem published this century and would be at ease in the company of Schuyler, Berryman, Larkin, Stevens. You’ve never heard of it, or its author, and now that I’ve mentioned it you you still won’t seek it out. But it would be a lot cooler if you did…

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @TheLatestInDecay

    Well first off, I salute you as being a serious-minded reader and critic of poetry. Cool beans.

    I get what you're saying about Paul Muldoon, but keep in mind that inspiration isn't granted uniformly: Stevens kept going all his life, but Jim Carroll only had one great book in him. Frank O'Hara died young, and maybe he would've gotten a second wind had he lived, but even at 35 his inspiration was already fading. In the Rock and roll world the standard assumption is you've got ten years of incandescent brilliance max, with rare exceptions. Better rack up a great catalogue to live off of later, or else it's Wal-Mart and local guitar lessons down the road. Paul Muldoon needs to make a living, even after his genius flagged, and after all as you remind us, he DID write The Annals of Chile. Think of all the awards as gratitude for that.

    I looked up George Franklin online, but could only find a few short poems: "Speaking of Love," "Hiding," "Something something else about Love." I couldn't find "Talking Head" but apparently it's a major time investment as its forty pages long. But the short stuff was the typical thing of quarterlies and workshops, a The New Yorker poem: literate and eloquent, harmless, full of the same well-shaped anodyne faux-insights as all the other MFAs.

    This woman hasn't written anything interesting in twenty years, but she did write this:

    Tell you
    My name:
    FU
    CK.
    Fifty
    Foot queenie,
    Force ten
    Hurricane.
    Biggest
    Woman,
    I could
    Have ten sons:
    Ten gods,
    Ten queens,
    Ten foot
    Rising.

    Morning
    Glory,
    Lay it
    All on me.
    Fifty
    Foot queenie,
    Fifty
    And rising.
    You bend
    Over,
    Casa-
    Nova,
    No sweat.
    I'm clean.
    Nothing
    Can touch me.
    Hey! I'm the king of the world,
    You oughta hear my song.
    Come on and measure me,
    I'm forty inches long!

    That's the sort of thing that makes me get out of bed in the afternoon.

    Replies: @TheLatestInDecay

  • @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @TheLatestInDecay

    Well first off, I salute you as being a serious-minded reader and critic of poetry. Cool beans.

    I get what you're saying about Paul Muldoon, but keep in mind that inspiration isn't granted uniformly: Stevens kept going all his life, but Jim Carroll only had one great book in him. Frank O'Hara died young, and maybe he would've gotten a second wind had he lived, but even at 35 his inspiration was already fading. In the Rock and roll world the standard assumption is you've got ten years of incandescent brilliance max, with rare exceptions. Better rack up a great catalogue to live off of later, or else it's Wal-Mart and local guitar lessons down the road. Paul Muldoon needs to make a living, even after his genius flagged, and after all as you remind us, he DID write The Annals of Chile. Think of all the awards as gratitude for that.

    I looked up George Franklin online, but could only find a few short poems: "Speaking of Love," "Hiding," "Something something else about Love." I couldn't find "Talking Head" but apparently it's a major time investment as its forty pages long. But the short stuff was the typical thing of quarterlies and workshops, a The New Yorker poem: literate and eloquent, harmless, full of the same well-shaped anodyne faux-insights as all the other MFAs.

    This woman hasn't written anything interesting in twenty years, but she did write this:

    Tell you
    My name:
    FU
    CK.
    Fifty
    Foot queenie,
    Force ten
    Hurricane.
    Biggest
    Woman,
    I could
    Have ten sons:
    Ten gods,
    Ten queens,
    Ten foot
    Rising.

    Morning
    Glory,
    Lay it
    All on me.
    Fifty
    Foot queenie,
    Fifty
    And rising.
    You bend
    Over,
    Casa-
    Nova,
    No sweat.
    I'm clean.
    Nothing
    Can touch me.
    Hey! I'm the king of the world,
    You oughta hear my song.
    Come on and measure me,
    I'm forty inches long!

    That's the sort of thing that makes me get out of bed in the afternoon.

    Replies: @TheLatestInDecay

    Thanks for your response. The verses you sent sound like they could use some guitars alongside them, so it’s a bit like listening to “Revolver” with only the left speaker working (Don’t try this at home). Anyway, didn’t quite do it for this early riser… I think that after decades of sturdy usefulness and reliability, we are going to have to discard the “typical New Yorker poem” meme. I strive to avoid that magazine, but recently this powerful offering from its pages — which should have been entitled “This Ain’t Yo Mama’s New Yorker Poem” but was actually called “George Floyd” — was brought to my attention:

    You can be a bother who dyes
    his hair Dennis Rodman blue
    in the face of the man kneeling in blue
    in the face the music of his wrist-
    watch your mouth is little more
    than a door being knocked
    out of the ring of fire around
    the afternoon came evening’s bell
    of the ball and chain around the neck
    of the unarmed brother ground down
    to gunpowder dirt can be inhaled
    like a puff the magic bullet point
    of transformation both kills and fires
    the life of the party like it’s 1999 bottles
    of beer on the wall street people
    who sleep in the streets do not sleep
    without counting yourself lucky
    rabbit’s foot of the mountain
    lion do not sleep without
    making your bed of the river
    boat gambling there will be
    no stormy weather on the water
    bored to death any means of killing
    time is on your side of the bed
    of the truck transporting Emmett
    till the break of day Emmett till
    the river runs dry your face
    the music of the spheres
    Emmett till the end of time

    Astonishingly, this seems to have been inspired by, if not in truth plagiarized from, a recurrent leitmotif of Steve Sailer’s regarding the unwhackamoleability of that sempiternal handsy scamp. And who says Blogposting makes nothing happen?

    (By the way, Muldoon has a poem called “Capercailles,” the initial line letters of which read acrostically “Is this a New Yorker poem or what?”; it was rejected by The New Yorker. “Do you admire my cleverality?” as Myles na gCopaleen used to say before he dropped the eclipsis in the genitive, became Myles na Gopaleen, and sank into taciturn alcoholism.)

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    @TheLatestInDecay

    see reply above, I think I failed to hit reply earlier, it's the only way it'll appear in your timeline, and since this thread is off the front page, probably the only way you'd see it.

    Cheers!

    Replies: @TheLatestInDecay

  • @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @TheLatestInDecay

    see reply above, I think I failed to hit reply earlier, it's the only way it'll appear in your timeline, and since this thread is off the front page, probably the only way you'd see it.

    Cheers!

    Replies: @TheLatestInDecay

    Your response is very sweet. Everything should be like that. As a semi-great man once said, I’m younger than that now….

  • Magnus Carlsen, the world's chess champion, has introduced a new style of chess tournament with vastly more action than the old-fashioned Fischer vs. Spassky rules under which a player could take up to 30 minutes to ponder every single move. It sounds promising, just as cricket has speeded up dramatically with new rules in recent...
  • @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @slumber_j

    For a while I dated a girl who, uh,.... well let's just say that in a previous life, she hung out with The Clash while they were recording "Sandinista!" She actually gave them tips about what to do.

    She said that the funny thing about them was that, even though they were supposed to be the world's tuffest, most cynical punk-rockers, they were actually kind of sweet and good-natured, and (in her view) sort of comically naive.

    Replies: @slumber_j, @black sea, @TheLatestInDecay

    As were the actual Sandinistas as well — sweet and good-natured, that is. I knew since kindergarten someone whose (eventual) husband had a great deal to do with all of Joe Strummer’s late records, and she spoke of him both before and after he died as a true gem of a man. But I never met him — though I did see the Clash four nights in a row at Bond’s in Times Square, when they extended their run for two weeks or so to honor the massive amount tickets oversold by their usurer hosts. Many of the key Sandinistas, on the other hand, I met many times as a young person. Fr. Miguel d’Escoto and Nora Astorga, in particular, were lovely, brave, and in my view saintly people. Truly unbelievably, this doomed country literally (and I mean that literally) still retains, in the position of international talmudic vandal, Elliott Abrams — the same person charged by Reagan’s handlers with disrupting and despoiling Nicaragua back in the 1980s. One would think there was a nephew in the wings, but I suppose, as a great man once said, the blood runs thin…

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @TheLatestInDecay

    Yoiks, I was also at the terrifying Bond's concerts too, perhaps three of them (couldn't learn my lesson), so maybe we nearly killed one another in panic at some point. At one point I got so scared by the density of the crowd that I tried to climb up into the lighting grids. Ah, memories.

    As Christopher Knowles (also an old acquaintance) would say,

    Oh these are the days my friends and these are the days my friends.
    Will it get some wind for the sailboat.
    And it could get for it is.
    It could get the railroad for these workers.
    It could be Frankie it could be a balloon it could be very fresh and clean.
    And so then it could be those ways.
    All these are the days my friends and these are the days my friends.
    -- Einstein on the Beach, "These Are The Days"

  • What did you think?
  • @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @ChrisZ

    So, you were both asleep (like the dogs), and also awake (like the cats).

    Interesting.

    I'm not the world's great animal expert, but this is my limited observation: dogs love to co-operate with humans, they see themselves as part of the humans' pack, so they make great retrievers and guardian watchdogs and assistants, they want to be part of the family, and make themselves helpful.

    Cats are solitary, merciless, cold-blooded killers, who merely put up with humans because it's convenient. I've seen cats do things that really freaked out even me, a guy who reads HP Lovecraft.

    We better hope (in poetic metaphoric terms, of course) that the cats are awake. Be nice if the dogs grabbed some coffee, too.

    Replies: @TheLatestInDecay

    As the finest living writer in our burning department store of a nation said just yesterday, “Soon, everyone will be dead from this virus, and it will be left to bears and deer to evolve into a humanoid form to rule the earth”… To veer on topic for a moment, it seems a mistake for Trump —in what was otherwise a surprisingly good speech (albeit one filled with lies, as is our custom) — to have made such a point of aligning Biden with Bernie Sanders. The supporters of Sanders, who had the Democratic primary stolen from him twice, are highly likely to sit this one out but would probably find a vote for Trump a bridge too far.

  • From the Los Angeles Times: The estimated altitude was 3,000 feet, which is high for a jetpack. But not as high as the 16,000 foot altitude Lawnchair Larry Walters of North Hollywood achieved on July 2, 1982 by tying 43 weather balloons to a piece of patio furn
  • @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @R.G. Camara

    "So that's how the Chinese will invade."

    News flash: the Chinese have already invaded, met with zero resistance, battle and war already won and finished.

    Replies: @TheLatestInDecay

    If so, then why are the Jews still running everything?

  • From the New York Times: What? I thought the police were Systemically Racist? One might almost think that the problem stems more from the behavior of crimi
  • @Monsieur le Baron
    @Steve Sailer

    Look at the fire they direct at the media, cloaking it as white. It's a power play by Asians to displace Jews from their last major stronghold. Asians are already over-represented in several professional fields, including BigLaw. The frequently leveled accusations of a bamboo ceiling are about Asians being under-represented relative to their *existing share* of professional employment in fields. The end result needed to end the "bamboo ceiling" narrative will be 40% Asian management in the US. Asian wealth has already surpassed white wealth. It's a hostile takeover move by an imported overclass to claim more of the pie. And East Asians are the "friendly" ones, more than willing to join WASP-to-Jew-to-mystery-meat country clubs and convert to Episcopalian Christianity.

    The current wave of South Asians is expanding even more aggressively, rising in income even faster, and is more tribal and in-group biased. They're so cohesive, they were able to displace Jews from the jewel trade - being more in-grouped than Jews is quite the feat.

    All this crap about representation is about seizing control of the white working and middle classes to extract rents from them to feed the value transference professional-managerial class.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @TheLatestInDecay, @Hibernian

    Wait, what? The Jews are down to a “last major stronghold”? When did they lose control of finance, government, academia, foreign policy…?

    • Replies: @Monsieur le Baron
    @TheLatestInDecay

    People are looking at the aged people at the top, from a previous generation, rather than current organizational composition and hiring. Too many of the shtetl Jews have regressed towards the mean to be of any use. People are talking about the Jewish narrative being pushed when the authors are a sack of Asians and a comprador white.

  • Goodfellas is usually ranked with the first two Godfather movies at the peak of the gangster movie genre. Oddly, it didn't do gangbusters on its opening weekend in September 1990, earning a mediocre $6.3 million domestically. Why? I can recall being surprised two weeks later when I attended the last game ever at the Chicago...
  • @slumber_j
    I lived in LA when Goodfellas came out and I saw it the opening weekend and twice more in the theater during its first run, tying my all-time record for the first and so far only time after having seen Star Wars three times when it came out. (I was a 12-year-old boy in 1977, and the way that movie looked seemed like a miracle to me.) That's how impressed I was by it at the time.

    I still am in a lot of ways, and I think I'm right that it heralded Scorsese's switch to his late-period kitchen-sink style. He doesn't do it in all his subsequent movies, but Casino and The Wolf of Wall St. are two more obvious instances of this: he just throws whatever at you with disproportionate scene length and weird tonal shifts all over the place, and you can make of it what you will. It reminds me a bit of late Saul Bellow in that way--and also Citizen Kane come to think of it.

    Although I doubt I ever read any reviews of Goodfellas, my guess is some critics didn't dig his new approach? In any case, I definitely did. And although I'm not quite as excited about it now, I guess I still do.

    Replies: @Days of Broken Arrows, @Anonymous, @TheLatestInDecay

    One of the central elements of this kitchen-sink method, and one that is particularly disruptive of the general excellence of “Goodfellas,” is the heavily foregrounded use of a musical playlist as a kind of mood commissar. If you consider the vast difference in the use of popular music between “Raging Bull” (where it is tonally astute and perfectly supportive of the mood being conveyed in each scene) and “Goodfellas” (where it is jarring and chaotic and sometimes seemingly random), you find yourself at the nodal point of Scorsese’s transition to his late style. I have no doubt that Scorsese was trying to use the soundtrack to convey both Hill’s own personal descent into off-kilter drug-fueled confusion as well as a larger rending of social decorum during the extended time period of the film, but it still strikes me as being like someone interrupting the crazy story they are telling you about some crazy shit that happened in order to put on a Muddy Waters record or — wait, you’ve got to hear this! — something by Procul Harum. This pattern of behavior is very familiar to those who drink socially at home, but its value as an artistic device (and Scorsese has been hugely imitated in this regard) seems dubious to me. “The Wolf of Wall Street” struck me as being utterly sandbagged by this tendency. It was gratifying that this was very much dialed back in “The Irishman.”

  • My Unlikely Friendship With Ruth Bader Ginsburg I was a young, African-American Southerner, working in a Republican administration. But I loved Bach’s Goldberg Variations, and that was enough for her. By Eric L. Motley Mr. Motley is the executive vice president of the Aspen Institute. Sept. 21, 2020 Our improbable friendship began in 2002 at...
  • @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Lace

    I don't have a negative opinion of Glenn Gould -- I think he was brilliant but quirky. My observation is sociological, not musical (I grew up playing classical piano in bars, my audience was afternoon drunks and retired old men who knew nothing about classical -- the bartenders were just letting me use the piano because I couldn't practice at home, and the drunks didn't mind. I'd wake them up by playing "Benny the Bouncer" with that great solo.)

    The point here is, Smart Black Guy tries to Look Smart in Front of Rich Jews by name-checking one of only about three piano soloists an average person could be expected to name. Gets Smart Black Guy points for just knowing who Glenn Gould was, and what the Goldberg Variations are. IOW it's a racket, not a measure of taste or musical depth.

    With the exception of certain operas, I try not to fetishize individual soloists or conductors (Lenny Bernstein was a great educator and popularizer, but I hear nothing special about him as a conductor.). Thought experiment: listen to Mozart's piano concerto in D minor, or the late great concerto in A, as performed by some hot shot (usually Jewish) rock star. Then listen to it performed by say the Slovakian National Radio Symphony Orchestra. You'll discover that the real star is Mozart, not the conductor, not the soloist.

    In the rather good movie Green Book, the haughty black pianist says "Nobody plays Chopin like I do." Having played Chopin, I find the statement illiterate: Chopin is so expressive that no further expression is required. Just play it as written, and you will get laid.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Lace, @Dmitry, @TheLatestInDecay

    I think you are completely correct in your reading of the situation of this talented 1th getting brownie points from that loathsome old (now finally dead) hag (who I doubt knew anything about Bach or had any genuine feeling for his work during her disgustingly prolonged existence). But I think you are off base in a couple of aspects of the latter part of your comment.

    Bernstein (whom I knew very well personally and for whom I had a high personal regard and affection) was a remarkable conductor. This does not mean he was a great conductor (I know many brilliant people who had convincing arguments as to how he was not) — but rather that he very intelligently and searchingly explored the music that he conveyed and interpreted. Many of these interpretations are arguably self-indulgent or wrong, but I would argue that even when so they add to one’s thinking on what the piece might truly hold within itself. In this regard he was quite like Glenn Gould, actually. For instance, I really like like the late, highly Beethovian recordings that Bernstein did of Mozart’s Symphonies 40 & 41. I would not try to argue that they are the “right” way or the best way to conduct Mozart, but they helped me, at the right age, cleanse my palate of a lot of horrible (to my ears) presentations of Mozart (i.e. Sir Neville Mariner, etc.). So I also don’t agree that the underlying composition, whatever it’s genius, cannot be traduced. Would that it were so.

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    @TheLatestInDecay

    Well said. I didn't mean to be too harsh about Lenny, I was as they say, exaggerating to make a point. Lenny was a great man (I knew members of his family, and one of my girlfriends knew him personally, but I never met him myself), but mainly he was great in the same way that Andy Warhol was great -- as a personality, as a totem, a creature of visibility and hype. I have no doubt about his musical integrity and his keen wish to explore; and on top of that, he was a superb educator, a great popularizer and explainer, and an all-around Lightning rod. God bless him. But he was obviously also a clear product of Jewish ethno-nepotistic media hype. There were and are many conductors of similar genius who never got the (((breaks))) Lenny got, let's be honest.

    There are some works -- I think of Rhapsody in Blue, and all of Wagner -- where the choice of tempos makes an essential difference. On the whole, I tend to think that an individual who is deeply moved by a particular work tends to believe that the "only" valid version of that work can be the one that they first heard at the time. I was undergoing a severe spiritual and emotional crisis when I first heard the String Quintet in G Minor, which is of course about a spiritual crisis and its resolution, and for me, the only tempo that makes sense for that work is the one I first heard it in. Same thing for Georg Solti's "Ring."

    But I agree that there are ways to ruin Mozart, and Sir Neville Mariner is definitely one of them!

    Best version of "Gimme Shelter" I ever heard was by The Replacements, live at the Beacon Theater on one of their sober nights (you had to go see The Mats twice, once when they were drunk, and the next night when they were sober). So yeah, interpretation can make a difference. I just don't like cults of personality.

    Replies: @Lace, @TheLatestInDecay

  • @Lace
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    And even if Bernstein was not a *great composer*, he certainly made some very good things, including the popular things. There's no other B'way musical score like West Side Story, and Candide has some extraordinary songs and is often performed by opera companies.

    I don't know nearly all of it, but think that his Symphony No. 2 The Age of Anxiety (based on the Auden poem) is a masterpiece. And the old recording with Lukas Foss was truly a revelation when I heard it when I was about 9. Really a kind of piano concerto, and Foss could really play. Interesting that his wife Cornelia became lovers with Gould but then went back to Foss. Only time I'd heard of anything amorous about Gould--but she's still alive and was teaching in NYC recently (may still be.)

    And you can see the TV performance of Bernstein and Gould doing Bach's Keyboard Concerto in D Minor. There's also the famous broadcast with Bernstein's disclaimer regarding his disagreement with Gould about the Brahms First Piano Concerto, which I need to get around to. That one was Gould's U.S. TV debut.

    Replies: @TheLatestInDecay

    Bernstein’s greatest work in a purely classical mode is the much-overlooked “Serenade” for solo violin, strings, and percussion. It is supposedly based on Plato’s “Symposium” but I don’t know about that… I was at Tanglewood in July 1986, as Bernstein’s guest, when Midori broke two strings (sequentially not simultaneously) during her magnificent performance of this great piece, conducted by the composer.

    • Replies: @Lace
    @TheLatestInDecay

    I heard this piece in Dec., 2001 without knowing anything about it, nor having ever heard it--and wouldn't have remembered the name of it had you not written it. Just looked it up so make sure: Joshua Bell with David Zinman conducting the Los Angeles Philharmonic. The publicity I just found of that concert called it 'Serenade after Plato's Symposium', and mentioned a recording Bell and Zinman did of 'West Side Story Suite', and songs from 'On the Town' and 'Candide'. The tracks list 'Phaedrus: Pausanias', 'Aristophanes', 'Erizymachus', 'Agathon', and 'Socrates: Alcibiades', so am interested that you have doubts about the Symposium being the basis. I'll listen to it again.

    Always loved Fancy Free, and saw it a lot at NYCB. I think that opening of the old 1965 My Name is Barbra is Bernstein: "my mother said that babies come in bottles, but last night she said they come on special baby bushes...I don't believe in the storks I know..they're all in the zoo...busy with their own babies...and what's a baby bush anyway...My name is Barbara". I couldn't tell from looking just now whether that is from a suite or was written for the TV show: It does use (and she does sing it as) 'Barbara', not 'Barbra', which I always found curious, since the show uses her name without the second 'a'.

    Replies: @TheLatestInDecay

  • @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @TheLatestInDecay

    Well said. I didn't mean to be too harsh about Lenny, I was as they say, exaggerating to make a point. Lenny was a great man (I knew members of his family, and one of my girlfriends knew him personally, but I never met him myself), but mainly he was great in the same way that Andy Warhol was great -- as a personality, as a totem, a creature of visibility and hype. I have no doubt about his musical integrity and his keen wish to explore; and on top of that, he was a superb educator, a great popularizer and explainer, and an all-around Lightning rod. God bless him. But he was obviously also a clear product of Jewish ethno-nepotistic media hype. There were and are many conductors of similar genius who never got the (((breaks))) Lenny got, let's be honest.

    There are some works -- I think of Rhapsody in Blue, and all of Wagner -- where the choice of tempos makes an essential difference. On the whole, I tend to think that an individual who is deeply moved by a particular work tends to believe that the "only" valid version of that work can be the one that they first heard at the time. I was undergoing a severe spiritual and emotional crisis when I first heard the String Quintet in G Minor, which is of course about a spiritual crisis and its resolution, and for me, the only tempo that makes sense for that work is the one I first heard it in. Same thing for Georg Solti's "Ring."

    But I agree that there are ways to ruin Mozart, and Sir Neville Mariner is definitely one of them!

    Best version of "Gimme Shelter" I ever heard was by The Replacements, live at the Beacon Theater on one of their sober nights (you had to go see The Mats twice, once when they were drunk, and the next night when they were sober). So yeah, interpretation can make a difference. I just don't like cults of personality.

    Replies: @Lace, @TheLatestInDecay

    I agree completely that Bernstein got enormous breaks because he was a Jew, and furthermore he advanced professionally due to an unrelentingness and indefatigability which is the central key to the mind-boggling success of the Jews — look at the vile RBG’s awe-inspiring efforts to cling to earthly life a few months longer solely in order to advance her people’s mission of undermining the sustainability of the lives of ordinary decent people.

    Anyway, enough about Lenny. To my ears the greatest pianist of the period for which we gave recordings is Sviatoslav Richter. The film of his command performance at Stalin’s funeral is uncanny, a kind of musical equivalent of Nadezhda Mandelstam’s “Hope Against Hope.” Anyway, there would be much more to say on all of these worthy subjects, but for some talmudic reason my comments, uniquely, are sent into “moderation” for a day or so and are usually not published at all, which somewhat takes the life out of the booze as regards this sort of elevated dialogue. The one time I saw The Replacements live I, shortly thereafter, woke up with the barmaid from the venue at which they had been boisterously performing. There’s some dirt that just doesn’t wash off…

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    @TheLatestInDecay

    True story: at the Beacon Theater Mats concert where they played the most blistering "Gimme Shelter" I ever heard, I was a kid reading Dostoevsky's "The Idiot" at the time. I had it stuffed in my back pocket during the show, and I was jumping up and down like an idiot so much, it fell out of my pocket and I lost it.

    Two days later I went by the Beacon front desk, and told the Lost and Found people that I'd lost a copy of "The Idiot", did anybody turn it in? They had a look: Sure thing, they said, and handed me the book.

    It was somebody else's copy.

    The Mats, the Minutemen, Captain Beefheart, takes one to know one.

    Replies: @Kibernetika, @TheLatestInDecay

  • @Lace
    @TheLatestInDecay

    I heard this piece in Dec., 2001 without knowing anything about it, nor having ever heard it--and wouldn't have remembered the name of it had you not written it. Just looked it up so make sure: Joshua Bell with David Zinman conducting the Los Angeles Philharmonic. The publicity I just found of that concert called it 'Serenade after Plato's Symposium', and mentioned a recording Bell and Zinman did of 'West Side Story Suite', and songs from 'On the Town' and 'Candide'. The tracks list 'Phaedrus: Pausanias', 'Aristophanes', 'Erizymachus', 'Agathon', and 'Socrates: Alcibiades', so am interested that you have doubts about the Symposium being the basis. I'll listen to it again.

    Always loved Fancy Free, and saw it a lot at NYCB. I think that opening of the old 1965 My Name is Barbra is Bernstein: "my mother said that babies come in bottles, but last night she said they come on special baby bushes...I don't believe in the storks I know..they're all in the zoo...busy with their own babies...and what's a baby bush anyway...My name is Barbara". I couldn't tell from looking just now whether that is from a suite or was written for the TV show: It does use (and she does sing it as) 'Barbara', not 'Barbra', which I always found curious, since the show uses her name without the second 'a'.

    Replies: @TheLatestInDecay

    Yes, “ Serenade” is definitely based on Plato’s “Symposium” — I was just indicating that I personally don’t hear the relationship between Bernstein’s beautiful composition and its Platonic source. My favorite recording of it is the version with Gideon Kremer on solo violin conducted by LB.

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    @TheLatestInDecay

    This quite intrigues me now, and I will listen to it with much greater interest now. Thank you for responding, as well as your other reminiscences of Bernstein. I would have to reread the Symposium after 40 years myself to have any strong idea, but interesting that you don't hear the connections between Bernstein and Plato here. I've read the Auden, but years after I knew the Bernstein Symphony. I thought I could feel a connection between the Notes summarizing the poem on the sleeve, but then they were surely written with that purpose--'3rd Avenue Bar', 'Colossal Dad', 'trying to solve through drink', 'going to one of the characters' apartments'--that's from memory, although I still have the old LP from about 1961 or 1962 when I got it. And I wasn't going to question those Notes at that age. Only time I've heard of a 'pianino' and Foss was certainly able to play it. People sometimes talked about Bernstein's 'writing about New York City', and I thought 'The Age of Anxiety' was very evocative of it, in Bernstein's romantic way, before I got here. But I think I will re-listen to 'Serenade' just as music, I can't fit the Plato in right now, but I could have some impressions of the Phaedrus, Alcibiades, etc., or not.

    Replies: @TheLatestInDecay

  • @Lace
    @TheLatestInDecay

    This quite intrigues me now, and I will listen to it with much greater interest now. Thank you for responding, as well as your other reminiscences of Bernstein. I would have to reread the Symposium after 40 years myself to have any strong idea, but interesting that you don't hear the connections between Bernstein and Plato here. I've read the Auden, but years after I knew the Bernstein Symphony. I thought I could feel a connection between the Notes summarizing the poem on the sleeve, but then they were surely written with that purpose--'3rd Avenue Bar', 'Colossal Dad', 'trying to solve through drink', 'going to one of the characters' apartments'--that's from memory, although I still have the old LP from about 1961 or 1962 when I got it. And I wasn't going to question those Notes at that age. Only time I've heard of a 'pianino' and Foss was certainly able to play it. People sometimes talked about Bernstein's 'writing about New York City', and I thought 'The Age of Anxiety' was very evocative of it, in Bernstein's romantic way, before I got here. But I think I will re-listen to 'Serenade' just as music, I can't fit the Plato in right now, but I could have some impressions of the Phaedrus, Alcibiades, etc., or not.

    Replies: @TheLatestInDecay

    The translation of Plato’s “Symposium” by Tom Griffith (fine- press published then beautifully done in an offset edition by the ((once great)) University of California Press) is among the finest translations I have ever encountered. I don’t doubt that Bernstein was very genuinely responding to the Symposium, I guess it’s just that the quality of unbelievable yearning that I hear in the music is not how I experience Plato’s relaxed and comfortable text.

    • Thanks: Lace
  • @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @TheLatestInDecay

    True story: at the Beacon Theater Mats concert where they played the most blistering "Gimme Shelter" I ever heard, I was a kid reading Dostoevsky's "The Idiot" at the time. I had it stuffed in my back pocket during the show, and I was jumping up and down like an idiot so much, it fell out of my pocket and I lost it.

    Two days later I went by the Beacon front desk, and told the Lost and Found people that I'd lost a copy of "The Idiot", did anybody turn it in? They had a look: Sure thing, they said, and handed me the book.

    It was somebody else's copy.

    The Mats, the Minutemen, Captain Beefheart, takes one to know one.

    Replies: @Kibernetika, @TheLatestInDecay

    Moonlight in Vermont affected everybody…

  • Albrecht Dürer (or AD as he branded his voluminous works) painted this self-portrait in Nuremberg in A.D. 1500, shortly after he returned from Italy. Dürer was a crucial figure in painting, engraving, and intellectual property, winning the first lawsuit against plagiarists in Venice in the early 16th century. Dürer more or less invented the logo...
  • @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Steve Sailer

    "There is a tide in the affairs of men,
    Which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune."
    -- Julius Caesar

    "Men must endure their going hence,
    Even as their coming hither.
    Ripeness is all."
    -- King Lear

    There's a lot to be said for being in the right place at the right time. Picasso was sitting at the very center of Modernism when it burst forth, just like Spielberg, Scorsese, Coppola and Lucas were sitting at the right place during a turning point in cinema.

    Picasso could draw, not as well as Titian, but well enough. More importantly, he understood what drawing IS. Take it from a guy who copied his portrait of Igor Stravinsky upside-down nearly fifty times.

    James Joyce's actual poetry is terrible; he couldn't write a credible Petrarchan sonnet to save his life. That didn't stop him from re-inventing the novel.

    Replies: @TheLatestInDecay

    Joyce’s poem “The Holy Office” remains a cracking piece of abusive and self-praising verse, even though it is substantially unintelligible if you don’t know who he is abusing. “Bahnhoffstrasse” from “Pomes Pennyeach” has a peculiar appeal. I have always liked the closing stanzas of “Epilogue to Ibsen’s ‘Ghosts’”:

    Blame all and none and take to task
    The harlot’s lure, the swain’s desire.
    Heal by all means but hardly ask
    Did this man sin or did his sire.

    The shack’s ablaze. That canting scamp,
    The carpenter, has dished the parson.
    Now had they kept their powder damp
    Like me there would have been no arson.

    Nay, more, were I not all I was,
    Weak, wanton, waster out and out,
    There would have been no world’s applause
    And damn all to write home about.

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    @TheLatestInDecay

    Yeah, but think of how clunky that all sounds, compared to Yeats's marvelous flow in "An Irish Airman Foresees His Death", or "To a Friend Whose Work Has Come to Nothing". Joyce really came to life in a looser, more spirited vein, like Molly Bloom's great monologue, or the hilarious scenes in the bar with the Citizen, and in the newspaper office.

    Or, of course, the terrifying and vivifying "night-town" episode.

    Replies: @TheLatestInDecay

  • @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @TheLatestInDecay

    Yeah, but think of how clunky that all sounds, compared to Yeats's marvelous flow in "An Irish Airman Foresees His Death", or "To a Friend Whose Work Has Come to Nothing". Joyce really came to life in a looser, more spirited vein, like Molly Bloom's great monologue, or the hilarious scenes in the bar with the Citizen, and in the newspaper office.

    Or, of course, the terrifying and vivifying "night-town" episode.

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    Yes, of course. I was not arguing that Joyce’s work in verse was superb, just that there were some things in it worth noting. He is one of the six or eight greatest writers of all time in any language, so the things that he got up to in forms that were marginal to him are noteworthy regardless of any other consideration.

    Here’s a good poem by a man Joyce respected almost without reservation — the friend whom he asked to complete “Finnegans Wake” for him in the event that he died before he was able to complete it. They were born at the same hour, on the same day, in the same year, in the same city:

    The lanky hank of a she in the inn over there
    Nearly killed me for asking the loan of a glass of beer:
    May the devil grip the whey-faced slut by the hair
    And beat bad manners out of her skin for a year.
    That parboiled imp, with the hardest jaw you will ever see
    On virtue’s path, and a voice that would rasp the dead,
    Came roaring and raging the minute she looked at me,
    And threw me out of the house on the back of my head.

    If I asked her master he’d give me a cask a day;
    But she with the beer at hand, not a gill would arrange!
    May she marry a ghost and bear him a kitten and may
    The High King of Glory permit her to get the mange.

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  • @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @fnn

    Sheesh. Anyone who's actually staggered through the Pisan Cantos could have predicted that.

    Well, could be worse. Could be Zukofsky. Or the Maximus poems.

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    The Pisan Cantos is — or contains, if you prefer — the best poetry written in the past century. The “I like this, I can’t believe you don’t like this!” mode of discussing works of art and thought is the ultimate dead end, but I am genuinely baffled and saddened when I encounter genuinely literate people who don’t see the truth of this, which seems to me to be incontrovertible. Look at it this way: this book was so good that a panel of good and semi-good poets, in a country and culture already dominated by Jews, felt they had no choice other than to award it the Bollingen Prize even though Pound was at that moment imprisoned by the tyrannical judaized US government and was still facing execution for pointing out that Jews were responsible for… well, you know what they’re responsible for… Those are some pretty strong headwinds.. Honestly, someone of your sensibility should not miss out on the beauty and power of this work because of surface difficulties, or whatever other reason. It took me a good while to acclimate to Pound when I was a teenager, but I value him much more highly than I do Stevens, whom I revere as I believe you do.

    Also, Zukofsky’s “A-11” is really great — I’ve never been able to get too far with most of the rest of “A” but that segment is like something by Wyatt. And though I agree with you about The Maximus Poems, Olson’s mid-length poems, especially “In Cold Hell, In Thicket,” are remarkable, as is his short book on Melville. Anyhow, I don’t have it at hand but to resolve this matter definitively please consult “Wind’s Source in the Bend of the Road” by Pierre Reverdy (beloved by F O’H) in the translation by Guy Davenport, who wrote with wisdom and appreciation about everyone mentioned in this humble comment which will now await moderation…

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    @TheLatestInDecay

    Thanks for the thoughtful reply. The truth is, I'm not as dismissive of Pound or the Cantos as I implied; just couldn't pass up the opportunity for a good one-liner. One of the most astute poets and critics of poetry that I know has the same esteem for the Cantos that you do, so I take it seriously, it's just not on my wavelength; I'm just so strongly attuned to Stevens and O'Hara and Williams and Schuyler, that Pound is like an interesting foreign language to me. (Stevens and especially O'Hara were great poets who took the trouble to be funny, which most do not. People tend to forget that the funniest writer in the English language is..... William Shakespeare.)

    Same thing with Olson: "In Cold Hell" is of course extraordinary, and parts of Maximus are... well I think they're brilliant writing, but not poetry -- I just disagree with his theories. Have you ever read Jim Carroll's beautiful elegy for Olson, "New Year's Day 1970"? In my view better than Olson himself.

    Anyway I totally get where you're coming from, and I don't think you're crazy.

  • @Lace
    @peterike

    Susan Sontag was the most ghastly creature. I saw her read twice in 1998 and 2001 at YMHA, and she always did this 'high-priestess' number. Her novels are unreadable and her most famous essay on Camp is actually ridiculous--especially when she really get cutesy and calls Mozart 'Camp' and her good taste in 'preferring Garbo to Virginia Mayo'. Also, when any controversy of any kind occurred in NYC, she was sure to be there shoving her opinion up everyone's ass. I remember when she died and thought how much I wouldn't miss her.

    But it is your quote that is by far the most incriminating to this grotesque bitch. Furthermore, she was a very astute trendy, and I remember that a couple of decades after she made it, one of the examples of 'great Western things that don't compensate' , 'Balanchine ballet', had her writing in the 50th anniversary volume that "Balanchine is the greatest choreographer who ever lived", which is possible but he's got competition. Mainly, how the hell would SHE know?

    She lived in the penthouse at 340 Riverside Drive, where I had a teacher I studied with from time to time from 1967- 1980. I would sometimes see her and lovely son David walking in the neighborhood holding hands.

    One of the most graceless and pushy people to dominate American Culture. After she wrote her stinking 9/11 essay in The New Yorker I heard her speak--in the same Commedia dell'Arte clothes she'd worn in 1998 (a group of NYRB writers, I didn't go to see her)--and talk about how 'horribly slandered' she'd been for writing this profoundly stupid essay. What was interesting was that she had been in Berlin, and thought having her eyes glued to the TV was surely better than anyone who actually saw it, and topped it off with "Unfortunately, I wasn't in New York". Poor Susan. Left out at last, didn't get to see the WTC when it needed her most. Talked about "how will I balance out being an intellectual and a beautiful woman?" She was not a beautiful woman.

    One of the best was a story someone told me from the early 90s, she was at a dinner party and sitting across from Gore Vidal. She tried to pimp her godawful novel (I read 50 pages) The Volcano Lover, and he took her hands and said "My dear Susan, you must promise me one thing: That you will never write another novel. It is not one of your many gifts." That was certainly generous.

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    I cherish Sontag as a ludicrous creature, a kind of ne plus ultra of pretension and vapidity. There is a marvelous personal essay about her by the smart and sometimes amusing lesbian literary critic (now there’s a rare admixture!) Terry Castle called “Desperately Seeking Susan “ (published in the LRB and available online) in which the following episode appears:

    “She’d been telling me about the siege and how a Yugoslav woman she had taken shelter with had asked her for her autograph, even as bombs fell around them. She relished the woman’s obvious intelligence (‘Of course, Terry, she’d read The Volcano Lover, and like all Europeans, admired it tremendously’) and her own sangfroid. Then she stopped abruptly and asked, grim-faced, if I’d ever had to evade sniper fire. I said, no, unfortunately not. Lickety-split she was off – dashing in a feverish crouch from one boutique doorway to the next, white tennis shoes a blur, all the way down the street to Restoration Hardware and the Baskin-Robbins store. Five or six perplexed Palo Altans stopped to watch as she bobbed zanily in and out, ducking her head, pointing at imaginary gunmen on rooftops and gesticulating wildly at me to follow. No one, clearly, knew who she was, though several of them looked as if they thought they should know who she was.”

    I knew someone who once was her waiter at a horrible popular restaurant on Madison Avenue. She was rude and demanding throughout the meal and ignored numerous indications that the staff were closing for the night. When she finally produced a credit card, my friend took it to the back, threw it in the trash, left by the kitchen door, and never returned to that job.

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    @TheLatestInDecay

    smart and sometimes amusing lesbian literary critic (now there’s a rare admixture!)

    Is that ever the truth, and Sontag had unrequited lesbian love after unrequited lesbian love (she was 'loved' more by such as the owner of the Standard in West Hollywood for status, and the fake Indian Jamake Highwater aka Jack Marks, the girls she wanted to dive didn't care if she was a well-known closet dyke. Edmund White hung out with her too till he couldn't take any more of it, called her 'a bit piggy', which was accurate.) I was disgusted at Joan Didion for defending Sontag's repulsive 9/11 New Yorker essay (I think she knew she was lying, and she's always been better than that--so I wrote and told her, but I don't if she ever read it), but apparently there is (or was, when Silvers was still alive) a 'blood oath' among NYRB writers. I think Didion hated Sontag anyway, from way back, that's why it pissed me off so much.

    Am sort of bewildered by your waiter-friend story. That must have meant your friend was ready to quit anyway, because he ended up without the job, and also let Susan get off paying after her typically foul behaviour. Are you saying that not having to re-enter and face her once more was worth all his sacrifice?

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  • @Lace
    @TheLatestInDecay

    smart and sometimes amusing lesbian literary critic (now there’s a rare admixture!)

    Is that ever the truth, and Sontag had unrequited lesbian love after unrequited lesbian love (she was 'loved' more by such as the owner of the Standard in West Hollywood for status, and the fake Indian Jamake Highwater aka Jack Marks, the girls she wanted to dive didn't care if she was a well-known closet dyke. Edmund White hung out with her too till he couldn't take any more of it, called her 'a bit piggy', which was accurate.) I was disgusted at Joan Didion for defending Sontag's repulsive 9/11 New Yorker essay (I think she knew she was lying, and she's always been better than that--so I wrote and told her, but I don't if she ever read it), but apparently there is (or was, when Silvers was still alive) a 'blood oath' among NYRB writers. I think Didion hated Sontag anyway, from way back, that's why it pissed me off so much.

    Am sort of bewildered by your waiter-friend story. That must have meant your friend was ready to quit anyway, because he ended up without the job, and also let Susan get off paying after her typically foul behaviour. Are you saying that not having to re-enter and face her once more was worth all his sacrifice?

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    Edmund White’s best novel (by far, I would argue — though none of us have ever read his “A Woman Reading Pascal,” which failed to get published despite being praised and pushed by Nabokov) — is “Caracole,” a roman à clef which has at its center a devastating fictional portrait of Sontag and her son David Rieff, as well as acidic portraits of Richard Howard and other figures of eminence in the New York literary scene of the 1980s. The campaign orchestrated by Sontag to smother and suppress this book is one of the more fascinating untold stories of that period.

    Yes, I didn’t tell the waiter story properly but it’s a funny story. He was sick of working there and Sontag was the last straw. It’s hard to know how she settled the bill after his departure. Dramatically, one will suppose…

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    @TheLatestInDecay

    Just ordered Caracole from eBay. Thank you. It's bound to be exactly what you said and what juiciness I imagine. I've read a couple of White's novels, including the first, Forgetting Elena. In the 90s, Kaj Areskoug, on whom 'Herbert' is based, was a close friend of mine. I didn't know till after he died that he was 'Herbert'. Kaj was very much the stolid Swede, and wouldn't have told me. Although there were some ways he still was exactly in the 90s as White described him in the early 70s. He died in 1998--I was in touch with White about him around 2007. I am several others of his friends didn't know he'd died till much later. There's a room named after him in the Center for Individual Rights in D.C. He was an economist and wrote several books--one was called Libegalitarianism, which I still have, but I don't think I'd recommend it.