RSSAccording to “NB” no sources that counter his claims are credible; only his sources are credible. NB believes, apparently, that Wikipedia is the be-all and end-all of informed scholarship, considering how many times he refers to it.
But I must point out to you, friend NB, that you are whistling past the graveyard on this one, for as is easily ascertained, the really horrible things that are going on in the Middle East, and in the Holy Land in particular, began to occur right after the year 1948. You may wish to look up that year on Wikipedia to discover what major event took place in the Middle East around that time.
A quick answer to your question, ” Do you think the US should be sanctioned?”:
Yes.
I’m Curious. An NBC report just stated flatly that there are no Russian troops on the border (based on interviews, videos and on-site reporting), yet Mr Margolis says there are tens of thousands. NBC is of course a war-monger stronghold so I must admit to being confused.
I guess what I’m asking is, does Mr Margolis have some evidence for his claim?
Mr Giraldi is always worth reading and this article is no exception but I had to stop reading when he expressed his shock about the anti-homosexual (I will, of course, not use the word “gay” to describe such things) stance of an organization that supports Paul. I am really, really getting tired of hearing about these unfortunate souls as if they are some sort of oppressed people. And if the American Family Association is disgusted with them and their behavior and their agenda of shoving it down our throats then good for them.
So in this case let us keep our eye on the ball and discuss Senator Paul’s equally disgusting pandering to the Israeli lobby. That is the story here, and that is what Mr Giraldi exposes so well. And I thank him for doing so.
“…by all laws human and DIVINE”? Did I read that correctly? Am I to understand that God willed that Eastern European Jews should come to the Holy Land around 1948 and beyond, ethnically cleanse it of the historic semitic inhabitants and now mercilessly kill women, children, old men, young men, anyone who is not of their ethnicity and commit atrocious war crimes?
My friend, you are very seriously deluded not only about the occupiers of the Holy Land but apparently about God as well.
Ok, let's say that the governments of Russia and the West all cancel each out, and reject anything that comes from a government.
I totally agree that my analogy is “simply goofy.” After all, everyone knows that politicians and government spokespeople are paid to lie for a living in support of what they perceive to be the national interest.
But, Hepp: is this not just an instant replay of Iraq? Only a tiny fraction of people/countries were opposed to it while all the media/corporate/political/US satraps were gung ho to get the war going. This Ukrainian business is looking very much like the same thing.
As for evidence I would say this to the US government investigators: “Russia has released their evidence. Now it’s your turn”.
“Sure, anyone beyond 2nd grade realizes they’re basically admitting they have no argument aside from name-calling. But that’s still better than the useful idiots…”
Apparently, HA has no sense of irony.
“…Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and theft of Crimea…”
Judge Napolitano, surely you don’t mean what you wrote there? If you do believe that perhaps you should spend some time on reliable internet sites.
It might be in Russia’s interest to have a 24/7 live photographic surveillance of the US and French and other warships in the Black Sea and have them broadcast as a constant YouTube stream. Let the world see who is provoking whom and who fires the first shot.
The point being…..what, exactly?
By the way, Spain was liberated from something else in 1492.
Well said, Mr Lawson.
An excellent article containing info we need to know. I was, however, saddened to see Mr Giraldi using the current buzzword “homophobia”, a meaningless term if ever there was one (which, if it means anything at all, means “an irrational fear of men”), and a term coined, incidentally, by the very Lobby his article decries. I hope that people are still allowed to express their revulsion over sodomy without incurring a wagging finger from Mr Giraldi.
I would also point out that the FBI has a long history of collaborating with the ADL going back at least to the 1940s. Louis Freeh was particularly subservient to honest Abe Foxman. This kinship between the two has always been a troubling note in US history.
Could the ADL supply us with a complete list of the one billion so that we can all commit suicide to please them?
Luke, could you do me a favor? Could you travel to Milwaukee for just one day and sit in my daughter’s house, gazing at the street from her large picture window? I would imagine you would need no more than an hour watching the goings-on in the street to get perhaps a more enlightened view of what police (and white citizens) have to go through on a daily, no hourly, basis.
There was no need, Art, to have a comeback. Podcast won that argument quite easily.
Well said, anon.
Bingo.
“and the Eye of Sauron will swing its focus over to that.”
Great line, Harry.
No kidding. Considering how outrageously pro-Israel they are now I would think Adelson should save his money.
Priceless.
Well, he’s not been enforcing laws he doesn’t like for some time now so this is no surprise. The entire country expressed its revulsion over the ridiculous concept of homosexual “marriage” and had Congress pass a law stopping it. But Mr Obama blithely informed everyone he had no intention of enforcing it. So this new contempt for the law is unsurprising.
What I find amazing in this whole Ferguson business, which I am sick to death of, is the weird response to it by the so-called Libertarians. A look at the libertarian sites like Lew Rockwell, et al shows to me that these folks have become almost unglued over this – even more so than the major media. They often point out some of the outrageous behavior of rather stupid cops who overreact and tend to do stupid even murderous things, but in this case the evidence is so clear and plain that I have no explanation for their refusal to see it. Yet they continue to fan the flames simply, I suppose, by their refusal to face the facts.
Also interesting, at least to me, is that many otherwise trustworthy European sites (think RT, PressTV, etc.) are also on the side of the looters. Sure, Russia doesn’t mind pointing out the internal problems of the USA (understandably so, considering how they are being bullied and provoked by Washington) but to keep flogging this dead horse is astounding. And considering that they are well aware of how the US has been behind various color revolutions in their sphere of influence it is absolutely astounding that they fail to see the same forces at work fanning the flames of Ferguson.
True, these Europeans (or well-heeled libertarians who live in nice neighborhoods) don’t live among low-class blacks and don’t experience the daily shootings, muggings, boomboxing, littering and arrogance that we peons experience. They have no idea of what it’s like to open your newspaper and see that every single day – that’s EVERY single day – reports of black crime and murder fill the pages. But even given that you would think some journalistic standard would apply and that they might be curious about the other side of the story.
I don’t get it.
I left this comment over at a Fred Reed article but I think it belongs here instead. Apologies for the double comment.
What I find amazing in this whole Ferguson business, which I am sick to death of, is the weird response to it by the so-called Libertarians. A look at the libertarian sites like Lew Rockwell, et al shows to me that these folks have become almost unglued over this – even more so than the major media. They often point out some of the outrageous behavior of rather stupid cops who overreact and tend to do stupid even murderous things, but in this case the evidence is so clear and plain that I have no explanation for their refusal to see it. Yet they continue to fan the flames simply, I suppose, by their refusal to face the facts.
Also interesting, at least to me, is that many otherwise trustworthy European sites (think RT, PressTV, etc.) are also on the side of the looters. Sure, Russia doesn’t mind pointing out the internal problems of the USA (understandably so, considering how they are being bullied and provoked by Washington) but to keep flogging this dead horse is astounding. And considering that they are well aware of how the US has been behind various color revolutions in their sphere of influence it is absolutely astounding that they fail to see the same forces at work fanning the flames of Ferguson.
True, these Europeans (or well-heeled libertarians who live in nice neighborhoods) don’t live among low-class blacks and don’t experience the daily shootings, muggings, boomboxing, littering and arrogance that we peons experience. They have no idea of what it’s like to open your newspaper and see that every single day – that’s EVERY single day – reports of black crime and murder fill the pages. But even given that you would think some journalistic standard would apply and that they might be curious about the other side of the story.
I don’t get it.
Dawson, yes….and D.B. Wyndham-Lewis, and Hollis, and Belloc, and James Walsh, and William Thomas Walsh, etc. For enlightenment on the Middle Ages one could do no better than that list of historians.
Mark Green writes: “Yet this astounding situation somehow escapes the attention of even the most erstwhile Jewish critics of Israel, such as Greenwald, Blumenthal and Weiss. ”
I imagine the explanation is simply, blood is thicker than water. They cannot bring themselves to face ugly facts about one of their own.
TomB:
This person may indeed be an agent provocateur. I don’t know. But we must be judicious when talking about this “holocaust denial” business.
I claim no especial knowledge of that episode but I am aware that there are reasonable people out there who find the narrative not altogether convincing, at least in the case of some of the numbers of deaths quoted. One such person was Pope Pius XII who, given his sensitive job before the war years then as reigning pontiff during and after the war, was in a good position to know exactly what was propaganda and what was fact. I suspect that it was when he expressed his doubts about the exactitude of the narrative that the whole controlled media began their ridiculous (and grotesquely unhistorical) smear campaign against him which continues to this day.
So what, schmenz? To anywhere near *any* reasonable (or even moderately unreasonable) degree of colloquial importance?
there are reasonable people out there who find the narrative not altogether convincing, at least in the case of some of the numbers of deaths quoted.
You are correct, sir.
Well said, and a very astute observation.
My first reaction to this was that this was another Washington effort to undermine Russia even more, since Russia still had dealings with Cuba.
“He’s not going to give an inch. You’ll see.”
I hope you’re right, Mr Whitney. I hope you’re right.
Matra:
Perhaps this might help you: http://rt.com/news/218767-navalny-rally-detain-russia/
It is not as simplistic as you might imagine.
So assuming that you read the article (there was about an hour’s time lapse between my comment and your follow up) I would be interested in what would be your counter arguments to the facts printed in the article.
What is a “Benedict Cumberbatch”?
Tony: I appreciate your insights, even if some of them seem to veer into the category of gossip. You lived in Russia from 1986-2009, if I’m doing the math right. That being the case you were there before the official fall of Communism and during the Yeltsin years. Given that, I am kind of surprised you did not mention anything about Mr Yeltsin the man who “gave away the store” to a number of Godzilla-sized Oligarchs, a number of whom fled to Israel when Mr Putin decided to put an end to the selling off of Russia’s patrimony to International Finance.
Your charge of corruption entails his ex-wife’s “reported to own 25%, etc.” I’m not quite sure how that involves corruption, but for the sake of argument, let us say that it does. The next logical step would be for you to answer the question: “reported” by who? The Russian press? Your next door neighbor? Masha Gessen? I would need some more details here before pronouncing the term “corruption”. The same goes for the expensive watch he owns. Details? (Last year the Obamas cost the taxpayers several Billion dollars flying them around on vacations. An envious Putin might retort “I’m the President of Russia and all I get is this nice expensive watch!”)
OK, humor aside, let’s get down to basics. I am a Catholic, too. I don’t canonize Mr Putin. But my “sensus Catholicus” tells me that there is something potentially good happening in that once sad land and that Mr Putin may have something to do with it. I am always intrigued by the videos of the recent meeting between Putin and Pope Francis. When staring at a gorgeous icon, a gift from Putin to the Pope, Francis stands there looking confused while Putin very naturally and un-ostentatiously bends over to kiss the icon and makes the sign of the cross. It took the Pope a few moments to do likewise. A small matter? Perhaps.
It will take a long time for Russia to be freed from a century of atheism but anyone who cannot see the pendulum turning back from that despair is simply not paying attention. We Catholics, especially those of us who value our 2,000 years of tradition, have often been forgetful of the fact that today’s Russia is not the Communist Russia of yore. I see a troubling attitude in far too many Catholic blogs that refuses to let go of the old anti-Communist crusade. While there is a great deal of healing still needed in Russia and even as, alas, far too many Russians and Orthodox despise Catholicism, I will continue to pray for them and hope that the machinations of our rather foul government in trying to destroy Russia will be thwarted.
Maj. Kong says: “The Israelis tie down a tremendous amount of Islamic force, that would swiftly be moved against us otherwise. [The view of someone unaware of the realities in the Middle East, and elsewhere.] I rather like seeing Hamas bombed in Gaza, than in Paris. [Ergo, the Maj. Kong would rather see women and children obliterated in Gaza rather than in Paris. The combination of arrogance, hardheartedness and lack of a historical perspective in that single sentence leaves me somewhat breathless.]
Aside from her being incoherently anti-Russian she is a woman maimed by her lesbianism. And that is why she despises Putin – and her homeland – so much: it dares to put the brakes, even a little, on the homosexual juggernaut.
She runs around telling anyone who will listen that Russia is repressive vis-a-vis sodomites and those who disagree with Putin, without bothering to notice that Putin isn’t persecuting her or any other homosexually-disturbed person. It is also possible her hatred for Christianity is a consequence of her Judaism.
I pity her.
There was no “fuzzy color” back then, only fuzzy tv sets and fuzzy tv engineers. If you’re lucky enough to see a brand new 35mm Technicolor film print of, say, 1937’s “Adventures of Robin Hood” your ideas of fuzzy color may vanish rather quickly.
Many syndicated film prints that got bicycled around over the years were treated badly by incompetent TV projectionists and then stored badly so the colors would begin to fade (the fading usually the result of inferior film stocks used to reprint the shows for tv).
The scorch marks could also have been caused by burning chicken wings atop a small weber grill.
And it was an extremely mild, innocuous joke at that.
Yawn.
“Meanwhile the current president of Russia planned and executed a false flag attack on an apartment complex to ensure his election as president”
Can you supply us with some evidence, please?
Mr Netanyahu was also “discouraged” by Hollande from coming to Paris but he came anyway in his usual obnoxious, arrogant and grandstanding way. Putin was much more of a gentleman about it.
“failure to prove that King was a womanizer”??
Dr Roberts, where have you been living these past 50-odd years?
Mr Webb:
For the record, Mr Shamir is a convert to Orthodox Christianity.
Russia is paying people to write pieces favorable to Russia? Great. Where can I sign up? I’ve been writing supportive comments about the interesting changes that have been happening in Russia lately for free when I could be earning some bucks.
Fine article, Fred, but…”BCE”? Really, Fred: “BCE”?? Does the entire history of civilization have to be changed just to mollify the Dark Suits?
Unsupported? Seems like there is quite some evidence for Russian interference by now. But, then again, this would probably be reported by the "presstitutes" & PCR oviously doesn't believe anything that doesn't come from RT.
the unsupported claim that Russian tanks and troops are pouring into Ukraine
IIRC, the Ukrainian government claims 9,000 Russian troops in Ukraine. Does PCR have other numbers?
despite all these Russian forces
Yeah, of course. & PCR is the only one with a brain here.
the conflict would be over. Anyone with a brain knows this.
What our little russtitute forgets to mention: the new government was also elected. & the far right is only a (very) small part of the new government.
The replacement government consists of a combination of Washington puppets and neo-nazis with their own military forces sporting Nazi insignias.
Little liar, you... e.g.:
The American presstitutes have been careful not to notice the Nazi insignias.
Bossel: When you have finished protesting too much, please link us to the aerial reconnaissance photos of Russian troops entering Ukraine, Russian equipment entering, etc. And please tell me which of the 38 (and counting) invasions of Ukraine by Russia in the past several months is the right one. I’d like to keep up on such things.
e: I hate to say this, and don’t want to rain on your parade, but if you think Mr Walker is a man with a backbone, or even a Republican with a backbone, you may have been misinformed.
As a Wisconsinite I can assure you that he has already backed down on several pledges he has made when running for office, and is now, perhaps most sickeningly, licking the boots of the disgusting Sheldon Adelson and promising eternal fealty to Israel with blood and treasure. Needless to add he is being given the usual all-expenses-paid “learning” trip to Israel to make sure he will stay firmly on the pro-War, pro-Oligarch plantation. He backed down on the sodo-marriage debate so fast he had everyone’s head spinning, and that was a betrayal of those who elected him. He caves a lot. Yes, he has done some positive things which I cannot deny but the big picture says he would be a disaster as President.
I wish it were otherwise, but there it is.
And we are wasting precious time and space writing about this deranged crap movie…for what reason, again?
I’d like to see this “mean Putin” everyone on earth is talking about. The Putin who keeps sending humanitarian aid tucks to Ukraine, who just announced he will help supply coal to Ukraine (whose reserves are very low) on extremely favorable for Ukraine terms, who keeps his cool while the US parades its tanks and troops 80 miles from St Petersburg (or 3o yards from the Russian border), who accepted Crimea back into the fold after an internationally-approved vote by the Crimeans, etc…?
You mean that “mean Putin”?
(Some people really do need to recall that the Soviet system collapsed in 1989.)
Very well said.
Dear Mr Editor, New York Time, and Mr Holder:
Could I ask you a favor? Would you come to Milwaukee soon and join me in driving through a typical black neighborhood? I would like you too to experience the joy we drivers have when we drive through these neighborhoods loaded with black drivers, after which we get out of our cars and down on our knees and thank God we made it home in one piece. I’d like you to see how respectful of traffic laws (and indeed common sense) these wonderful, courteous drivers are.
Could you come soon? (By the way, please bring ear plugs or you wont hear anything beyond the boom boxes.)
Thank you for this brilliant response to the author. I am certainly an admirer of Mr Karlin’s writings but this particular piece did need answering, and you have done it well.
Goodness, “Truth” is an extremely tiresome commenter, isn’t he?
“What’s up with the Israel thing? How’d they get to be the only turd in your punch bowl?”
By observation, a modicum of logic and simple common sense.
As much as I respect Dr Gottfried, and have always respected him, it would be extremely difficult for me to respect a war criminal which, by any rational criteria, describes Mr Netanyahu.
Yes, Anon, you’ve said what had to be said. Imagine the hell these children go through, and how warped they become in such a setting. God help them.
I hope Indiana stands up to Big Buggery and doesn’t cave-in like so many, many others. What astounds me is that so many reasonable people begin to take leave of their senses when it comes to the yelps of the Homosexual Mafia. I simply cannot understand this.
I would imagine that the next move for this lunatic zeitgeist will be to yank priests out of confessionals when someone who has succumbed to this unnatural behavior goes to confession to receive absolution for this sin.
Considering how far down we have come, I scarcely think that this is far-fetched.
Doug,
This type of boiler-plate simply won’t do anymore. Those countries who you say “ran” to the USA did no such thing. You would do well to read the opinions of the real people in these lands.
Their leaders were not bullied to cozy up to the USA…they were bribed. And they’re still being bribed.
Soviet Russia is gone. We just have to swallow our pride and accept that. What is going on in Russia today is not the same thing the Soviets were doing. To refuse to recognize that only feeds delusions.
I accept the fact that people have long memories for past injustices. This is human nature. (And the US has been cynically fueling these old hatreds in their desire to demonize Russia). It took me a decade at least to come around to the fact that Russia is changing, and it would seem for the better. But reading and reflecting helped.
Brilliantly stated, sir.
My friend, Crimea was not annexed. An internationally-supervised vote of the people decided that Crimea wanted to return (please note the word “return”) to Russia. There were no vote irregularities, no Russian soldiers aiming AK-47s at the peasants as they entered the voting booth.
A cursory history of the East will inform you that Crimea was a part of Russia for centuries, and that the vast majority of the populace there speaks Russian. In the 1950s the Ukrainian-born Kruschev “gave” Crimea to Ukraine as a “gift”, which didn’t go down too well with the people there.
When the people of Crimea voted to rejoin Russia a year or so ago the Russian government accepted their vote. And, interestingly, when the people of East Ukraine recently expressed their overwhelming desire to be joined to Russia, Mr Putin and his government said “No”. So much for Russia “grabbing” nations.
Thank you for boring me to tears, Bro New Reader.
Eustace,
Don’t allow Modernists and Americanists like Spellman, et al, to color your view of what the Church was thinking and doing about the issues you mention. A great many Churchman were speaking out courageously…and for centuries.
I am appalled at some of the activities of cops in which poor judgment, overreaction and a sense of superiority end in some real stupid decisions and dead people.
But as much as I admire Dr Roberts for his writings on other topics I believe he would do well to come to, say, Chicago and ride with some cops on the night shift. A whole new world would open to him and he would begin to see what many people see: the results of generations of fatherless, young black males, with no impulse control whatsoever, committing horrendous crimes daily. If he cannot make it to Chicago he could go to Newark, Los Angeles, Detroit, St Louis, Milwaukee, etc.
My daily newspaper’s crime reports show murder and/or mayhem every single day – that’s every single day without exception – in the black districts. I say this in sorrow more than in anger. But it is reality and Dr Roberts needs to balance his disgust with some genuine cases of police brutality with a view of what they (and we) have to put up with every day.
I wish I could think of a solution to this catastrophic situation but I don’t think there is one.
“That Catholic leaders such as Pope Pius IX were likely rooting for the Confederacy is not much to brag about, given that this Pope also rejected free press, separation of church and state, and pretty much every other American ideal”
Which is precisely why he was a great Pope.
Poor Dr Cathey. He touched the uberpatriotic third rail.
Believe me, Dr Cathey, it is difficult to fight the junk contained in those 5th grade US history texts. But I admire your efforts to do so.
Yes, you are right. They will do as they’re told. Which is precisely what is wrong with this whole picture. And considering the ambitions of our new Empire of Chaos (h/t to Mr Escobar) it is a terribly frightening thing.
In any event to degrade your manhood in this way is a very, very bad sign of a nation that has taken leave of its senses.
Oh, Eric, we’re not going to regurgitate that tired Black Legend against Spain again, are we? You are certainly intelligent enough to do the research on this subject. You owe it to yourself and your readers to do so.
If I may, I’d suggest reading the astounding “Isabella of Spain” by William Thomas Walsh as a starting point. And it IS astounding.
Mr Karlin,
I appreciate your articles very much, for they give a good picture of how the Russians think.
But I need to ask a question, though it may have a bit of naivete about it and a not-too-thorough understanding of all the events in that war. While appreciating the sacrifices made by the Russian people in defending their land, and the sacrifices made by the German soldiers carrying out orders, why should I celebrate the victory of one dictator, Stalin, over another dictator, Hitler? I ask this not out of disrespect, and I am very hopeful about Russia and its current leaders, but it is hard for me to find a dog in that fight.
Mr Solzhenitsyn cured me of many illusions about the Soviet experiment, hence my question to you.
Again, thank you for your thoughtful articles.
http://www.contrtv.ru/repress/778/
Never heard about Zemskov. Wiki (Russian):
My impression of Solzhenitsyn, based on his writings, is the opposite of what you have said and quoted. After reading him I found a proud, humble Russian who loved his country deeply. His depictions of the struggle of the good Russian people under an oppressive regime was heart-breaking and beautiful. I felt nothing but love for the Russian people after reading him, and I was profoundly impressed by his obvious love of homeland.
He loved it so much that he returned there after several disillusioning years in America. I therefore cannot understand what Father Moroz was trying to say.
Your impression of Solzhenitsyn's writings is based, most likely, on the lack of knowledge of Russian culture and, especially, of its Soviet period. Should you have read Solzhenitsyn's delirium of the level of his "Letter to the Chiefs of the Soviet Union", "How we must reorganize Russia" or another "masterpiece" like "The Russian Question at the End of the 20th Century", you would understand what I am talking about. You would also understand why he basically faded away in Russia and will remain there--a man who openly lied (it is documented well) on the whole range of Russian (Soviet) history and dared to completely pervert the history of the Great Patriotic War has very little chance of remaining a Russian "classic". You want to read GULAG literature--read Shalamov, whose writings were stolen by Solzhenitsyn and were incorporated into GULAG Archipelago. Solzhenitsyn didn't love Russia, he always loved himself only. I'll give you SOME examples of his "history":Solzh writes about “Wehrmacht advancing 120 kilometers a day” first weeks of the WW II”(c) in his GULAG Archipelago FYI distance between Bialystok and Moscow is about 1000 kilometers, so Wehrmacht should have been at the gates of Moscow (once the invasion started 22 June 1941) in accordant to Solzh’s calculations around 1000/120=approximately 8.5 days, so around July 1st, 1941. Yet, somehow (wink, wink) Germans did not reach outskirts of Moscow till early December, 1941. Obviously any person with even rudimentary arithmetic (forget about calculus) will have, and very many DID have huge questions. I give you another example, from the same GULAG, in which Solzh states that Prague was “liberated” by the 1st ROA Division of Bunyachenko, thus committing a complete fraud, forgetting to mention that it was not Vlasov’s “troops” but the tank forces of three (!!!!) Fronts (Army Groups) 1st, 2nd and 4th Ukrainian Fronts which demolished Wehrmacht forces and specifically obliterated the Staff of the Army Group Center the night from 7th to 8th May 1945, thus immobilizing completely the control and command of the whole Army Groups Center. And how do we know all that? From Archives, namely, among many, from the Commander of those two German Army Groups Field-Marchall Shoerner. Solzh's numbers on GULAG were absolutely preposterous. 27 million Soviet people died in WW II--every Soviet family has someone who died. Now, this guy comes with numbers such as 100 million deceased in GULAG and as a result of Soviet power. Sure, why not 5 billion Russians--wouldn't make any difference. Even 100 million people mathematically (forget it--arithmetically) would make it impossible for Soviet people to reproduce and exist as a nation. And the list goes on and on, and on. Repressions are a tragic and horrendous page in the history of Russian people but to state that this tragedy can not be discussed and studied with the clean hands is absolute insanity. The more the time passes, the more responsible and objective historians get archive data, the more it becomes (in Russia it is already an emerging consensus) clear that, as good ole’ Pipes noted (for many wrong reasons, though) in the article in Moscow Times–”It is difficult to envisage what kind of a Russia Solzhenitsyn wanted. He was not unhappy about Russia’s loss of its imperial possessions, yet he did not favor a state based on law and democracy. He disliked what he saw after his return to Russia in 1994, during Boris Yeltsin’s rule, but, strangely enough, he came to terms with then-President Vladimir Putin and his restrictions on both democracy and the free market. Although Solzhenitsyn vehemently rejected communism, in many ways he retained a Soviet mind-set. Anyone who disagreed with him was not merely wrong but evil. He was constitutionally incapable of tolerating dissent.”(c) What Pipes describes here has a name. As per
He loved it so much that he returned there after several disillusioning years in America. I therefore cannot understand what Father Moroz was trying to say.
.He was trying to say what I am writing about for years now--West in general and US in particular has a picture of Russia and its history which was formed by Russian dissidents, that is the picture which had as much common with the reality as I am the alien from planet Zoltar. What West have gotten was what it WANTED to see, not what was really happening, let alone understanding WHY it was happening. Moroz merely stated in different way what I stated even on these boards not for once (in fact it goes back at least 10-15 years)--US "Russian Studies" field is dead and Russian history was solzhenitsified to the point of being unrecognizable. Period. US simply DOESN'T know Russia because it spent decades trying to validate and confirm its own chimeras and the jury is in now and the verdict is not pretty for the US. My answer to that--they should have been reading more Tolstoy, not Solzhenitsyn or Pasternak.Replies: @schmenz
what Father Moroz was trying to say
Chris:
“These two attackers were FBI patsies, pure and simple. ”
I wondered about that, too. It all seemed a bit too convenient for my taste.
Your impression of Solzhenitsyn's writings is based, most likely, on the lack of knowledge of Russian culture and, especially, of its Soviet period. Should you have read Solzhenitsyn's delirium of the level of his "Letter to the Chiefs of the Soviet Union", "How we must reorganize Russia" or another "masterpiece" like "The Russian Question at the End of the 20th Century", you would understand what I am talking about. You would also understand why he basically faded away in Russia and will remain there--a man who openly lied (it is documented well) on the whole range of Russian (Soviet) history and dared to completely pervert the history of the Great Patriotic War has very little chance of remaining a Russian "classic". You want to read GULAG literature--read Shalamov, whose writings were stolen by Solzhenitsyn and were incorporated into GULAG Archipelago. Solzhenitsyn didn't love Russia, he always loved himself only. I'll give you SOME examples of his "history":Solzh writes about “Wehrmacht advancing 120 kilometers a day” first weeks of the WW II”(c) in his GULAG Archipelago FYI distance between Bialystok and Moscow is about 1000 kilometers, so Wehrmacht should have been at the gates of Moscow (once the invasion started 22 June 1941) in accordant to Solzh’s calculations around 1000/120=approximately 8.5 days, so around July 1st, 1941. Yet, somehow (wink, wink) Germans did not reach outskirts of Moscow till early December, 1941. Obviously any person with even rudimentary arithmetic (forget about calculus) will have, and very many DID have huge questions. I give you another example, from the same GULAG, in which Solzh states that Prague was “liberated” by the 1st ROA Division of Bunyachenko, thus committing a complete fraud, forgetting to mention that it was not Vlasov’s “troops” but the tank forces of three (!!!!) Fronts (Army Groups) 1st, 2nd and 4th Ukrainian Fronts which demolished Wehrmacht forces and specifically obliterated the Staff of the Army Group Center the night from 7th to 8th May 1945, thus immobilizing completely the control and command of the whole Army Groups Center. And how do we know all that? From Archives, namely, among many, from the Commander of those two German Army Groups Field-Marchall Shoerner. Solzh's numbers on GULAG were absolutely preposterous. 27 million Soviet people died in WW II--every Soviet family has someone who died. Now, this guy comes with numbers such as 100 million deceased in GULAG and as a result of Soviet power. Sure, why not 5 billion Russians--wouldn't make any difference. Even 100 million people mathematically (forget it--arithmetically) would make it impossible for Soviet people to reproduce and exist as a nation. And the list goes on and on, and on. Repressions are a tragic and horrendous page in the history of Russian people but to state that this tragedy can not be discussed and studied with the clean hands is absolute insanity. The more the time passes, the more responsible and objective historians get archive data, the more it becomes (in Russia it is already an emerging consensus) clear that, as good ole’ Pipes noted (for many wrong reasons, though) in the article in Moscow Times–”It is difficult to envisage what kind of a Russia Solzhenitsyn wanted. He was not unhappy about Russia’s loss of its imperial possessions, yet he did not favor a state based on law and democracy. He disliked what he saw after his return to Russia in 1994, during Boris Yeltsin’s rule, but, strangely enough, he came to terms with then-President Vladimir Putin and his restrictions on both democracy and the free market. Although Solzhenitsyn vehemently rejected communism, in many ways he retained a Soviet mind-set. Anyone who disagreed with him was not merely wrong but evil. He was constitutionally incapable of tolerating dissent.”(c) What Pipes describes here has a name. As per
He loved it so much that he returned there after several disillusioning years in America. I therefore cannot understand what Father Moroz was trying to say.
.He was trying to say what I am writing about for years now--West in general and US in particular has a picture of Russia and its history which was formed by Russian dissidents, that is the picture which had as much common with the reality as I am the alien from planet Zoltar. What West have gotten was what it WANTED to see, not what was really happening, let alone understanding WHY it was happening. Moroz merely stated in different way what I stated even on these boards not for once (in fact it goes back at least 10-15 years)--US "Russian Studies" field is dead and Russian history was solzhenitsified to the point of being unrecognizable. Period. US simply DOESN'T know Russia because it spent decades trying to validate and confirm its own chimeras and the jury is in now and the verdict is not pretty for the US. My answer to that--they should have been reading more Tolstoy, not Solzhenitsyn or Pasternak.Replies: @schmenz
what Father Moroz was trying to say
Thank you for your response, smoothie.
It doesn’t convince me of your position vis-a-vis Solzhenitsyn because when the discussion gets into a “he said, she said” dimension it doesn’t advance anywhere. Of course, even if we never had a Solzhenitsyn, we still have Kravchenko, Father d’Erbigny and too many other eye witnesses. Naturally when counting numbers and/or corpses totals can vary but I don’t see that as a reason to discount the whole narrative, nor does confusion about what and when the Wermacht did their dirty work.
My impression of Solzhenitsyn – and I could be totally mistaken – was that he was more of a monarchist than anything else, which is not a bad thing. That may be why some were asking what kind of Russia he wanted. He knew both liberal Capitalism and Communism were two sides of the same miserable coin.
Thanks again for your interesting replies.
Distant Warrior: Thank you for the additional info.
Alas there is simply too much corroborating evidence available from sources other than Mr S, so that even if he never existed we would still know quite a bit about the awful things that were going on. In any event a good police investigator knows that you sift through as many sources as you can to discover the truth. With that in mind I have few doubts about Mr S’s veracity, despite what his ex-wife may have said.
Mr Putin, a man I greatly admire, also seems to be of the opinion that we can hold the accounts of Solzhenitsyn in esteem.
Hugh, please.
Try this on for size, the saga of Terry Bean:
http://www.theeye-witness.blogspot.com/2015/05/arrested-for-child-molestation-and.html
I knew it wouldn’t be too long before some benighted soul brought out that old chestnut about people opposed to sodomy being secret sodomites themselves.
Goodness, that is getting awfully old by now, isn’t it?
Well, you have the floor. Kindly explain the real situation for us rubes.
You are an old, self-loathing white fool and I am wasting my time, but here goes: Government spending does not "create jobs." Government spending only transfers existing wealth. Once the transfer payments end, the jobs "created" by them end. Any actual public goods being provided end up being serviced for much, much less (compare public and private school teacher salaries). American blacks are the recipients of loads of largesse. We have an entire US Postal Service where we pay them and give them a pension and medical coverage to deliver corporate marketing materials. We have delivered entire cities to them to be run by, for and with black people. Black entertainers, athletes and entrepeneurs earn millions of dollars.Government transfer payments seemingly work for white people (for a few generations, at which point high youth unemployment and taxes and inflation shut the Ponzi scheme down) because of their mean lower time-preference, lower aggression, and higher general intelligence. For blacks with higher time-preference, higher aggression and lower general intelligence, you end up with a dysgenic, dysfunctional Big Man culture. Again, the gravy train only lasts so long as the (mostly white) net tax-payors are willing to fund it.Replies: @Truth, @Ronald Thomas West, @Kat Grey, @schmenz, @Bill Jones, @Ace
Now, if all of those hundreds upon hundreds of billions of tax $ poured into social welfare jobs generated by and for White people (military contracting) had been equitably divided with the demographic Black share invested in job creation in disadvantaged neighborhoods...
Please don’t criticize our ubiquitous Ronald Thomas West. I enjoy reading his self-promoting, comical rubbish.
Good. This one's for you:
Please don’t criticize our ubiquitous Ronald Thomas West. I enjoy reading his self-promoting, comical rubbish
Phil,
I commend you not only for your extremely interesting article but also your resilience in being able to sit through a movie starring that vapid ham, Brad Pitt.
Answering Mr West is sort of like Brer Rabbit punching the tar baby. In other words, don’t bother.
:)
Answering Mr West is sort of like Brer Rabbit punching the tar baby. In other words, don’t bother
Gosh….
Episodes of black rioting in the US were seen in 1915, and even the 1940s, though, bad as they were, they pale in comparison to what we saw in the 1960s and what we’re seeing now.
An excellent source of information can be found in Dr E Michael Jones’ extremely depressing but essential book “Slaughter of the Cities”. The author does an excellent job of tracing the history of how we got to where we are, and he does it with extreme fairness to all parties involved. He is also fearless in naming the names of the masters of disaster. Good book.
Julie Andrews and her “Sound of Music” family. It was – news to me – the traditional “Christmas film” Americans watched on TV, he explained.
"Sound of Music" grossly distorted the facts of how the von Trapp family left Austria:
Christopher Plummer (who played Captain von Trapp in the film) called it The Sound of Mucus. During shooting, he was afraid the movie would "run overboard and become very mawkish and sentimental," he later told Oprah Winfrey.
The agenda embedded in "The Sound of Music," then and now, apparently, was to demonize NSDAP Germany and the non-violent liberation and reunification of Austria to Germany.
According to the movie, the head of the von Trapp family decides to flee the country with his wife and children to avoid having to serve in the German navy. While it's true that Georg Ludwig von Trapp, who is played in the movie by Christopher Plummer, was a monarchist who was hostile to Hitler and National Socialism, he was never forced to choose between service in the German armed forces or emigration from the country.
In the movie, the von Trapps flee Austria in secret, hiking over the mountains into Switzerland carrying their suitcases and musical instruments. In reality, they left the country by train, and they did so quite openly. And instead of going to Switzerland they traveled to Italy before ultimately settling in the United States. As daughter Maria said years later in an interview: "We did tell people that we were going to America to sing. And we did not climb over mountains with all our heavy suitcases and instruments. We left by train, pretending nothing,"
Fascinating, SolontoCroesus. Thank you.
I am not a climate denier. I do not deny that we have a climate. What I do deny is that running my gas-powered lawn mower is causing stars to fall from outer space. (Yes, I know, a couple of million lawn mowers might cause an iceberg to melt…I don’t believe that, either.)
About those “well-funded deniers,” I am reasonably certain that those who promote man-made climate change are equally if not more so well-funded.
Well, if the Ukrainians were just trying to get rid of the oligarchs at Maidan they sure goofed rather badly, for all of their new leaders are genuine oligarchs of the worst possible kind. And why didn’t they dump the disgusting Kolomoisky while they were busy in the Maidan? As oligarchs go he is a genuine monster. But he still reigns supreme in that unhappy land.
No, they’ve got real, bad oligarchs over them now and that’s because like so many people they were played for suckers by International Finance. And isn’t it charming that Ukraine is now being flooded with pornography and homosexual propaganda both of which it had valiantly resisted prior to the coup.
I’m beginning to think we’re going to have to stop telling “dumb Polish” jokes and replace them with “dumb Ukrainian” jokes.
I can just imagine what this program is going to be like. It will be Piltdown Man all over again, except with newer, fancier trimmings.
I’m afraid I’ll be giving it a miss.
HA,
What did Russia “do” to Crimea? Are you referring to the internationally-observed vote of the Crimeans to re-join (note the word, “re-join”) Russia, a vote which international observers found nothing askance about?
You are I am sure aware that historically Crimea was a part of Russia which was “gifted” to Ukraine by the Ukranian Kruschev in 1954.
You do realize the international observers were largely a collection of Stalinists and neo-Nazis, a sort of Molotov-Ribbentrop reenaction club:
Are you referring to the internationally-observed vote of the Crimeans to re-join (note the word, “re-join”) Russia, a vote which international observers found nothing askance about?
You do realize the international observers were largely a collection of Stalinists and neo-Nazis, a sort of Molotov-Ribbentrop reenaction club:
Are you referring to the internationally-observed vote of the Crimeans to re-join (note the word, “re-join”) Russia, a vote which international observers found nothing askance about?
Thank you. However, a more reliable citation would be preferred, rather than one by someione who has an axe to grind, no?
Somehow, AP, the rest of my moniker didn’t show up on this reply. It should have been “schmenz”, not “s”.
You are possibly forgetting about the decades-long treaty regarding Sevastopol?
Other than that, perhaps it would be helpful to ask the Crimeans why they wished to rejoin Russia and who rejoined by vote, not with gun barrels pointed at them.
Lastly, the Soviet Union no longer exists.
Greasy,
Assuming your comment is serious, words fail me.
This is just a continuation of the whole awful mess that began in the 1940s in America. If you are into depressing reading of how this all began, and why cities like Detroit are in ruins and Chicago and Philadelphia are crime centers you can read it all in E Michael Jones’ book, “Slaughter of the Cities”.
Reading it was as awful as watching a train wreck. It is terrible to see but you can’t take your eyes off it. It’s sad, terrible and disgusting, but it shows you how it was done and who the culprits were who brought this destruction to peaceful neighborhoods and cities.
As the author noted, personal experience is not definitive but it does help in gaining an understanding.
Here is Milwaukee we have two large non-white minorities, blacks and Hispanics. While I do see evidence of Hispanic crime I still feel relatively safe being in a predominantly Hispanic neighborhood. But no one unless he is insane would stroll through a typical black area at any time of the day or night. This is the daily reality that we experience here. Local crime rates confirm this handily.
One factor in the difference in crime rates between blacks and Hispanics would, I think, be the vestigial Catholicism still found among the Spanish. I suspect their crime rates would go even lower if the Church would stop making nice with “the world” and go back to the strong teachings it had before its “glorious revolution” in the 1960s.
“The same as the Western “Christian” Crusaders did to Byzantian Christians: rape, murder, destruction and endless pillaging.”
Kiza,
I love you as an internet brother but please try to understand the true history of the Crusades. It really is not as black and white as your statement suggests. There is much good, honest and dispassionate history written about this matter.
Kind regards…
It seems to me that one of the winners in this con game is Mr Netanyahu. Since the USA knows that Iran has no intention whatsoever to produce nuclear weapons, and since Israel (via its intelligence agencies) knows the same thing, this agreement calls for Iran to stop doing what it never intended on doing.
But Mr Netanyahu screams and foams at the mouth and tears his hair out over Iran anyway, even though he is perfectly aware Iran is not suicidal and would never attack nuclear-armed Israel with weapons it has no intention of creating. The Netanyahu screamfest is therefore a ruse, in my opinion, designed to extract even more billions out of the wallets of US taxpayers and – sure enough – Mr Obama is rushing to assure him that dollars and weapons will be showered upon Israel if they will kindly accept the phony deal.
There is a legal term for that sort of Israeli behavior.
Contra Mr Margolis, I don’t see this as Obama acting in America’s interests. Israel’s, yes; America’s, I doubt it.
“…the rabidly russophobic western religious and political elites.”
I would be curious to know what Mr Saker means by russophobc religious elites. What religion(s) is he referring to?
If he means the Christian-Zionist types, typically some sort of Protestant denomination, like those who hail any military activities of the USA, I might possibly understand. But I know of no serious religious body angling for the overthrow of Russia.