“Does anyone know whether the church wants these folks to live in Utah forever or to go back to their home nations eventually?”

When have third world immigrants voluntarily gone back to their own country? And with our birthright citizenship, forget about it.

Does anybody have links to good reading material on the LDS and race? I know they were late to the whole civil rights thing, are they completely “caught up” when it comes to race issues?

From the review in the Times

“Social policy can get rid of ethnic I.Q. gaps, he thinks, but “the social-class gap” in I.Q. “is never going to be closed.””

It seems to me liberals would have no problem with IQ and it’s heredity if it wasn’t for racial differences. The author and his reviewer are happy to accept that they’re smarter than low IQ whites.

” I would frame the matter a little differently. Even if I.Q. inequality is inevitable, it may eventually become irrelevant. Over the last century, for reasons that aren’t entirely clear, I.Q. scores around the world have been rising by three points a decade. Some of this rise, Nisbett argues, represents a real gain in intelligence. But beyond a certain threshold — an I.Q. of 115, say — there is no correlation between intelligence and creativity or genius. As more of us are propelled above this threshold — and, if Nisbett is right, nearly all of us can be — the role of intelligence in determining success will come to be infinitesimal by comparison with such “moral” traits as conscientiousness and perseverance.”

Height in the last 100 years has been rising. Eventually, we’ll all be 7 feet tall.

“Gov. Mark Sanford of South Carolina, a Republican who advocates issuing taxpayer-financed vouchers that parents can use to send their children to private schools, “

This is a conservative idea? Wouldn’t it just ruin private schools?

“Keep up the Simpsons observations- and I agree that show went downhill big time in 2001-2002- I think they now have woman writers or something. Gotten really liberal, feminist, GOP is the devil, etc. It is barely watcheable now- really, really unfunny. They’ve even made Homer unlikeable- something I never thought possible.”

Really, it’s not even an intelligent leftism. It’s like the writers are getting their themes from DailyKos.

The old Simpsons portrayed small town American folk as simple but generally as decent and sympathetic. New Simpsons seethes with rage towards them. It may reflect a cultural change. Maybe the writers were always Harvard elitists, but Harvard elitists have become much more likely to hate the “unenlightened” parts of the country.

I remember one episode where a Muslim family moves in and the ignorant yahoos led by Homer all think that they’re terrorists. Homer used to be an actual character who was dumb/lovable. Now his stupidity makes him a representative for middle America.

I can’t stand to watch the show anymore.

What’s fascinating is that Arabs and blacks in France have also adopted American ghetto culture.

Poor white people still identify with the country they’re poor in. Poor non-whites who see that the bottom is filled with people who look like themselves end up with contempt for where they live. They adopt a hyper-masculinity to overcompensate for their failure. “I ain’t stupid, but I ain’t gonna sit der wit no book.”

Looks like the Taliban is on the march. For my fellow Sailerists, does this rank up there with the recent victories in Austria and Italy?

Remember, it was Bush who forced out Musharraf. I believe Testing99 considered W. an opponent of the spread of Muslim extremism, no?

“testing99 thought he’d stir up the misogyny latent in most of Steve Sailer’s fans and then magically convert it into pro-Israel neocon sentiments. But all he ended up doing is bringing the Jihadi sympathizers out of the woodwork.”

Yes, T99 is a treat.

T99,

As a long time reader of your rant (and it’s always the same rant), can I ask you, what do you think is the thought process of single white women who are out to get the single white male? Does a girl go to the bar, get hit on by a bunch of annoying losers, watch the news the next morning and see what happened in the Ricci case and say “This’ll weed out the betas!”?

I agree with the commentators above. You talk about race because our natural instincts point us in that direction and *the law* require it.

Saletan really does need to take it up with the “post-racial” president.

“At this rate, by “2017”, South Korea will be effectively extinct – the nation will be populated by grisly, wizened, raisiny old pensioners, with barren wombs and flaccid members, just biding their time on this earth before they disappear once and for all.”

Oh, calm down. A nation of 70 million people isn’t going extinct in 8 years, regardless of the birth rate.

That being said, the low birth rates of Asians is an argument against using Western-style feminism as the main or exclusive reason for this peculiarity of the modern world. Maybe it’s capitalism, but then again the US has always beat more socialist Europe, even only counting Caucasians.

Affordable family housing? There’s something there, but how much more affordable were things in the past?

I’s like to hear what everybody else thinks. I’m pretty stumped. Is there any way to get high IQ people to breed in the modern world? What needs to be changed?

“1. Sailer, … has offered to give up that [“racial classification”] practice. In exchange, he wants proponents of affirmative action to give up the converse practice of categorizing people by race in the course of trying to equalize opportunity or outcome. I’m inclined to take this deal.”

Steve, any grand bargain needs to include a stop on immigration. Race blindness can end affirmative action and we’d just end up a new Brazil. That’s better than a liberal elite-NAM aliance to destroy the white race but still not what we should be aiming for.

Richard Lynn is also number 1 in Finland. The IQ researcher who wrote “IQ and the Wealth of Nations” with him was the father of a major politician.

“Unfortunately Matti is as PC as all the other politicians.”

At least he’s consistent. Look at what the article says about the father…

“In his interview to a publication of Helsingin Sanomat, the professor who taught at the University of Tampere, said evolution made Europeans and North Americans more intelligent than Africans. He also said African poverty is not the fault of the white man…In his interview, Tatu Vanhanen also said he favors economic solidarity toward poor countries and hoped immigrants in Finland would inter-marry and assimilate into the population at large.”

So he thinks that Africans are less intelligent and doomed to poverty, but he wants them to intermarry and give those bad genes to the Fins? I hope I’m missing something here (maybe he was only talking about Eastern European immigrants?) because “IQ and the Wealth of Nations” was a great contribution to human though.

“His mother lived 53 years and his father only 46 years – and Obama smokes.”

His dad’s early death was the result of a car crash, it was due to his genes only to the extent that he the genes for being a reckless alcoholic.

His paternal grandfather lived 84 years. I couldn’t find out about his paternal gradma.

His maternal grandma lived 86 years and maternal grandfather 74.

The only early death attributable to genes is his mother.

This is neo-con garbage.

What the article doesn’t mention is that France went down the assimilationist path. They require everything to be in French, don’t even take statistics on demographics, teach French history and want everybody to be French. Germany and England have tried to do it in a more multicultural way.

The extent of each countries Muslim problem isn’t based on the policies they adopt towards their Muslims but proportional to how many they’ve been stupid enough to let in in the first place.

The author is trying to argue that it COULD’VE worked if it wasn’t for those crazy liberals. The real reason it doesn’t is because of human nature and the truth of genetic similarity theory. If Europe trades in multi-culturalism for neo-conism they won’t be any better off.

“Yeah, well, I didn’t study at all and then tried my hardest to flunk damn thing and I STILL got a 1900 (they gave me 300 extra points against my wishes). Can you imagine how amazing my score would have been if I’d tried to ace it?”

LOL, these people are funny. I wonder what satisfaction they get talking about their supposedly high scores under the name “anonymous” on a blog.

You might as well just scribble it on a bathroom stall.

So, I took the GRE yesterday and got Verbal 650 and Math 780. I left the testing center telling myself I wouldn’t go brag about it on ISteve but what the hey, I’m happy.

But there’s a practical reason why I bring it up. Internet says I’ve got an IQ of 145-148 yet I have doubts about the conversions that you find online. The one I saw uses 115 as the average test taker’s IQ. Charles Murray says that the actual college grad’s IQ is only 105 but I assume that the average IQ of a GRE taker is higher than that of your normal college grad so 115 for the average test taker is close enough.

Both my scores are at about the 90th percentile. If we assume that GRE test takers represent the top third of the population (the amount that have college degrees) then the top ten percent of the top third only puts me at about the 97 percentile for the population in general. If that’s correct then my IQ is only about 128, the same as John McCain’s. He strikes me as a disgusting, blithering idiot and I really want to be smarter than him.

Here is the conversion chart that I used. All others I’ve found seem to be based on that.

Steve you can’t resist these kinds of articles, can you?

“Guy X (usually Obama) believes and does everything that is the polar opposite of what I believe. So why doesn’t he just all of a sudden wake up one morning and do what I want?”

Was it you who wrote before the election about Obama doing the “Nixon-Goes-to-China” thing and coming out against racial preferences? It might of been a guy at Slate.

By the way, fellow ISteve readers, I’ve started my own blog which is basically a series of HBD book reviews. I did Spent today and pointed out how Miller supports voluntary segregation while being a little less than honest about the implications of it.

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“Hmmm, so who is approving these comments for posting?”

Steve can’t resist! He loves us too much.

From purely a statistical point of you the odds of a Latino female being qualified is almost nill. See my review of a book on affirmative action.

Read this about blacks in law school and know that everything there applies to Hispanics, only to a lesser extent.

The distribution of the bell curve means that because of the difference in average intelligence between the races when it comes to law schools the proportion of qualified whites to qualified blacks is enormous. That’s why a defender of affirmative action admits that if law schools simply went by undergraduate GPA and LSAT scores statistics from one year show that almost 4/5 of blacks, 2/3 of Puerto Ricans and 1/2 of Mexicans and Native Americans admitted to law school wouldn’t have been accepted. Even Asians get a slight edge. Of those blacks who ended up going to law school only 8.9 percent belonged there. At the top sixth of law schools 17.5 times more blacks were admitted than would’ve been based on UGPA and SAT. That’s another reason why mentioning that there are smart blacks in discussions about affirmative action misses the point. It’s not just that a few are getting a break; if you meet a high status black and you assume that he got his position at the expense of a more qualified white or Asian the vast majority of the time you’ll be right. The further he’s gotten in life, the less likely he is to have earned it by merit. And when it comes to grading…

Affirmative Action grading doesn’t have to be official policy or even conscious. Ken Harber wrote an essay filled with grammatical and content errors and gave it to 92 white college students to grade. They were given different biographies of the author and some indirectly revealed that he was black. On a scale of 7, papers that the white students thought were written by a black person got a grade of 3.5 and papers they thought were written by a white person got 2.7. On the essays supposedly written by a white some students wrote things like “when I read college work this bad I want to lay my head down on the table and cry.” The comments written on the essays supposedly written by a black were overwhelmingly positive. The mystery of how Michelle Obama could graduate from Stanford while not mastering basic English is solved.Grading in law is so subjective and liberal law school professors so enamored with the right victims slobbering the right platitudes that anything achieved by a Sonia Sotomayor needs to be taken with a grain of salt.

“Most likely, she is very smart and totally qualified, but also prejudiced against whites and males.”

If you read what I wrote you would see it’s most likely that that is not the case. At the highest levels of society the proportion of unqualified to qualified NAMs is very large. The more cognitively demanding the position the more likely the NAM is a fraud.

“Because the principal beneficiaries of Affirmative Action are White Women.”

No, they’re not. Not even close.

“Linda Gottfredson, where are you? Take a break from Half Sigma and comment here please.

Linda is the only reason I read HS’s comments.”

Are you joking or was it ever determined that Linda from HS is Linda Gottfredson?

“To me, it seems as idiotic to rule out the obvious socio-economic factors in all of this as it is to ignore the IQ test results. So please prove that you are not simply redneck racists dressing up your arguments in pseudo-science.”

Anon above,

We’re not responsible for holding your hand and making you see the truth. If you’re interested in the relevant material, start with this..

Race, Evolution and BehaviorNow google the names J. Philippe Rushton, Richard Lynn and Arthur Jensen. See “IQ and the Wealth of Nations” or “The Global Bell Curve” for the economics analyses. Then, after you’ve done your homework, if you have any questions, come back and talk to us.

“I have pointed out repeatedly to my liberal gay and feminist friends that they are playing with fire by blindly supporting the Democratic party in its AA and open borders policies”

Nah, Latinos may mumble under their breath about homos but will team up with the liberal elite and accept them as part of the anti-white alliance. NAMs voted against gay marriage, but who got it on the ballot?

The president of Brazil called “homophobia” a “mental disease” not too long ago. In Mexico,the situation is similar to the US.In a Parametría poll, respondents were asked if they would support a constitutional amendment that would legalize same-sex marriage; 17% responded yes, 61% said no and 14% had no opinion.[6] The same poll showed 28% in support of same-sex civil unions, 41% were opposed and 28% had no opinion.Despite that, Mexico City has civil unions and so does the state Coahuila. Other states are going to follow. Jose Sixpack’s opinions don’t matter. Latin America’s elites follow the lead of the elites of the white world.

Now the Muslim population in Europe is going to be a different story…

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"*(I found it via a relatively recent KMac piece, I thought it was at Occidental Observer but I'm not finding it via multiple searches; an Ivy study where the researcher typed up a dismally bad essay and asked white TAs to grade the paper, but accompanied them with varying author bios – some said the author was white, some said black. The "black" author received an average of 3.5 and no negative comments, the "white" author received an average of 2.5 and negative comments)"

Actually, that's from my book review of the The Affirmative Action Hoax.

"Affirmative Action grading doesn’t have to be official policy or even conscious. Ken Harber wrote an essay filled with grammatical and content errors and gave it to 92 white college students to grade. They were given different biographies of the author and some indirectly revealed that he was black. On a scale of 7, papers that the white students thought were written by a black person got a grade of 3.5 and papers they thought were written by a white person got 2.7. On the essays supposedly written by a white some students wrote things like 'when I read college work this bad I want to lay my head down on the table and cry.' The comments written on the essays supposedly written by a black were overwhelmingly positive. The mystery of how Michelle Obama could graduate from Stanford while not mastering basic English is solved."

I don't think I've been cited by Kevin MacDonald.

Anybody who has discussed issues relating to blacks with liberal elites (basically any college graduate with a liberal arts degree) won't find the results of that study hard to believe.

I was walking outside a hotel in Pskov and one of two dogs that I didn't see in a bush barked at me. His companion looked at me and then attacked the other dog. It was like he was disciplining him for messing with the human.

In Moscow I saw packs of dogs traveling and once 4 sleeping in a circle. It really tugged at my heart strings.

"Steve, that was pretty funny. I'm going to remember that one."

I agree. "My uncle came to this country with nothing but three cents in his pocket. We lived on welfare and flunked out of school for three generations until one day the government sent a nice lady who told us to take our vitamins and talk to the kids."

Truth said

"Steve-O, you know you should have written this column without including "West Indian Blacks."

You're going to have a bunch of guys here playing literary "twister." to argue with you,

(Hint: Affirmative Action, Affirmative Action…)"

Actually, Truth, if your reading comprehension was a little better you'd see he was quoting the New York Times writer. As a matter of fact, it's hard to see how you would make that mistake, since he was arguing against the point. Did you just see something about successful blacks and go off?

And just because you can predict our response, doesn't mean it's not true. The fact that a few blacks from somewhere in the world can take advantage of AA isn't all that impressive.

From your aticle

"The Bell Curve’s analysis of the huge National Longitudinal Study of Youth database reported that children of black immigrants score five points higher on the military's IQ entrance test than children of American-born blacks."

So they've got IQs as high as Mexicans? THAT'S Kristof's black success story?

"Steve – consider writing something about the recent election in the UK –

The BNP has a lot of negative baggage, but they made a compelling case against NAM immigration and they were resoundingly defeated.

The average voter in the UK got the chance to listen carefully to the BNP message and rejected it

I guess HBD doesn't resonate so much with the general public there"

You do know that for teachers and other public employees being a member of the BNP gets you fired, right?

You have a very naive view of democracy if you think people "listen carefully" to anything. Considering the sheep people are, 7% of the vote while the entire establishment is united against you is pretty impressive. That's because the right swims with human nature while the left works against it. The latter needs non-stop brainwashing to get its way.

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Only 1-3% of Muslim marriages are polygamous? So what the hell has Testing been ranting about all this time?

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"That is a goddam lie. Kevin McDonald has proven no such thing. He merely rants and raves without proof, and you Jew-hating assholes who can't even make up an imaginative nickname believe him."

It's not just Kevin MacDonald. I recently read and reviewed Madison Grant's biography. It was written by a liberal Jew and tells the same story. Like today, Jews were disproportionately represented on both sides but MUCH more on the left.

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Why are the only foreign people that American left wing blacks care about the Palestinians? It really is strange. Do they just see Jews as white and so take the side of their enemy?

Arabs don't like blacks, and don't feel guilty about it.

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Did I just fall into a time machine and go back a couple months ago?

You know Steve, we're all constrained by what we choose to read.

I've been reading you for a few years and I spend more time on Isteve than the rest of the MSM combined. I naturally have always assumed that these rational ideas that you espouse must be gaining popularity and making things obvious for all.

Really, I'm completely irrational in thinking so. There's no reason to think that truth will win out. We could be talking about the same thing a hundred years from now.

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"concerning discplacement and ending america, in practical terms, who is doing more to end it?"

Good point. If a real conservative movement ever popped up in this country Bush and McCain would oppose it harder than the Mullahs ever would.

"It's White Women who drive AA. Who form it's electoral support and who have moved to support it at every turn."

Ah, Testing. I want you to know that I wrote this with you in mind.

Unfortunately, I wasn't able to tie it in with Iranian nukes.

“I think you might be on the right track here actually ben. Have any of you guys seen Chris Rock’s stand up routine where he goes on about how African-American slaves might have been bred for their stupidity? ” 
 
It’s not just that. William Shockley was fretting decades ago about the rapid dysgenic rate among African Americans.  
 
Anyway, I don’t believe this one bit. Jensen and Rushton make a convincing case that the African American IQ is actually 78. See page 8. 
 
Unfortunately I can’t access the study right now but it sounds like BS that the IQ of an entire has been consistently underestimated by 12-15 points. 
 
Someone is either grossly incompetent or lying. As a long time observer of these debates, I assume it’s the more politically correct side until I’ve had a chance to examine the data.

The word “continent” should be after “entire.”

It's interesting that the major world religion that bans alcohol has arranged marriages. I don't know which came first, but maybe your extended family being your social circle and not having to worry about finding a wife or making friends makes the social lubricant unnecessary.

"Lets face it, white women are best looking women on earth. Everyone competes for white women, while no one really wants black women. Whoever has the money and status gets the white women. There's a reason there's a market for Russian wives but not for African or Guatemalan wives. Every man in the world wishes he could have a blond hair Nordic Goddess. And that's all YOU need to know…."

It's a little crude to say so, but with the coming extinction of the European people, let's indulge.

I liked Seinfeld and never watched Curb Your Enthusiasm. So I went out and got the DVD of the first season the other day on Steve's recommendation.

Good show. One thing though. I don't know what it is, but I absolutely HATE Richard Lewis. Something about him really rubs me the wrong way.

"Again, some good data-naut out there ought to be able to track this down."

For the modern world, it's not that hard

The list isn't complete, obviously. Most countries have men 2-4 years older than women.

Countries with biggest age discrepencies…

Philippeans 6.5
Niger 6.3
Saudi Arabia 6.2
Greece 6.1 years
Chad 6.1

Interestingly, in Argentina women are 4.3 older than men and in Chile women are 2 years older. In the latter the marrying ages are 37 and 35! In Mexico the ages are the same.

I don't believe the data from Latin America.

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"The statement might be true today but it was different five hundred years ago. After nearly eight hundred years of Moorish rule the Spaniard's ideal of beauty was a woman with dark hair and dark eyes. The Spaniards could not believe their luck when they landed in the Americas to find women that matched their ideal of feminine beauty."

You think you can say something like that without providing a source?

You know, the most militantly PC guy I ever met was an Italian who was as dark as a Pakistani. Maybe South Italians are bitter about being the only Europeans who by man on the street standard aren't white? Most Jews and even some Persians/Arabs are whiter than this guy in your article. And he's "European." It must drive him nuts!

Does anybody know the amount of negro blood in the South Italian population? Did all blacks who ever lived there since ancient times blend in?

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Wow Steve, I never looked at dysgenics from that perspective.

Thanks, you ruined my night.

My first thought was why out of all the governors did it have to be one of only two or three whose sight I can stand?

I don't think this kills him politically. The wife says she wants to stay with him. Cry, bite your lip, say the experience made you stronger and move on. America loves that stuff.

"off topic, but one thing I noticed in the iranian blogosphere. They are completely sure that Hollywood always depicts persians as blacks or mulattos because of jewish influence."

That's really fascinating. I presume these blogs that you read are in English? So English speaking Iranians think this?

Can you provide a link?

What's disturbing is that after this happened to him he's still singing the praises of America. The least advantaged group in society is the most patriotic. Someone needs to tap blue collar white guys on the shoulder and tell them it ain't their country anymore.

Is it time to root for the jihadis yet?

Here's another wonderful story from Sweden

Young women in Sweden, Germany and Australia have a new cause: They want men to sit down while urinating. This demand comes partly from concerns about hygiene — avoiding the splash factor — but, as Jasper Gerard reports in the English magazine The Spectator, "more crucially because a man standing up to urinate is deemed to be triumphing in his masculinity, and by extension, degrading women." One argument is that if women can't do it, then men shouldn't either. Another is that standing upright while relieving oneself is "a nasty macho gesture," suggestive of male violence.
A feminist group at Stockholm University is campaigning to ban all urinals from campus, and one Swedish elementary school has already removed them. In Australia, an Internet survey shows that 17 percent of those polled think men ought to sit, while 70 percent believe they should be allowed to stand. Some Swedish women are pressuring their men to take a stand, so to speak. Yola, a 25-year-old Swedish trainee psychiatrist, says she dumps boyfriends who insist on standing. "What else can I do?," said her new boyfriend, Ingvar, who sits.

To answer my own question, yes, it is time to root for the jihadis.

Not sure why, but there seems to be sort of a racial angle to these radical feminist excesses. That is, they seem to only occur among whites, and mainly among the whitest of the white – the peoples of northwestern Europe. Southern and eastern Europeans are less feminist, and non-whites even less.

That's what I always thought

Moxon’s theory of women being favored, like many things, makes sense in the Western world but not universally. He says about Middle Eastern culture

"The very different experience of Muslim and Hebraic cultures-where social practices are derived primarily from canonical text rather than the codification of biological imperatives-is the exception that proves the rule. Indeed a plausible argument could be made that the ‘patriarchal’ moral and legal codes deriving from the ‘religions of the book’ are an attempt to redress the imbalance revealed by the practice of ‘natural’ societies."

But doesn’t that seem backwards? Wouldn’t we expect that culture and religion would work with a group’s nature instead of “fixing imbalances?” Kevin MacDonald makes the case in his paper What Makes Western Culture Unique? that inherent racial differences are reflected in and reinforced by religious and cultural practices. Like with the question of race and IQ, it is more reasonable to assume differences than similarity in the kinds of societies we expect different groups to create. I wonder if Moxon really believes that Afghans or Saudis are inherently just as likely to fall for “The Woman Racket” and adopt society destroying feminism as Swedes are.

Racial differences can also help explain why no group of whites has reacted to incentives for irresponsibility the way black Americans have. In 2007 the black out-of-wedlock birth rate hit an all-time high of 72%. Africans are not only looser sexually but have different ideas about the obligations of men and women. Steve Sailer writes that in the West “feminists complain that men lock women out of the world of work. But in Africa, men have always ceded most of the world of work to women.” We see the same thing with regards to out-of-wedlock birth rate to a lesser extent with America’s growing Latino population. East Asians may have birth rates as low as the West but you still don’t see Western style feminism or rampant anti-men discrimination. We all share certain qualities going back to the primordial ooze but different environments have had plenty of time to tweak our differences since then. While there are pluses and minuses to each system, feminism seems to be like racial masochism: a curse that only affects whites.

Look up the MacDonald paper for the theory. Also see "What's Wrong with White Men."

"I wonder why the same phenomenon does not seem to affect East Asian men, who supposedly also have low testosterone. They seem to do a much better job of keeping their women in check than their Northern European counterparts do."

Their women have less testosterone too. It takes pussy men and loud mouth feminist to make it work. A society made up of Asian men and white females would probably make Sweden look like Iraq!

Another theory is that with races intermingling the gender within each race that is less socially valued becomes embittered at the more desirable one. So among blacks you get the sistahs complaining about rich and high status blacks marrying whites women, Asian men bitter about white guys taking Asian women and white men frustrated by white females who have more options than anybody.

These natural imbalances are a good case for racial separation. In the end, Islam is more adaptive than anything else. I suspect on the sexual free market Arab/Persian females would be more desired than their male counterparts so Middle Eastern men should do whatever it takes to resist globalization and secularism.

I'd just like to say I hate Christopher Hitchens.

The guy was a communist and then a neo-con. A guy so wrong in such different ways ought to be ashamed to show his face in public. Yet he's disgustingly smug. Not to mention a fat drunk.

"I'm not sure what the correlation between language abilities and "cosmopolitan viewpoint" is. Consider that paragon of linguistic skills, Dr. Revilo P. Oliver. He spoke at least thirteen languages to a relatively fluent level and wrote scholarly articles in four. However, he was singularly uncosmopolitan in many ways."

Quite a sample size you got there.

In all seriousness, reading Revilo Oliver is a guilty pleasure. The racial slurs mixed in with the references to the classics and gentlemanly affability is something we'll never see again.

For those who have never heard of Revilo Oliver: look him up and know that he once wrote regular columns for National Review.

Steve,

I wanted to like Sarah Palin. A beautiful, conservative white woman with 5 kids. That's what liberals hated about her, I know.

And I know that she didn't have time to study foreign policy.

But still. What does that have to do with why she couldn't name a single newspaper that she reads? Or the nonsense about seeing Russia from her house?

I don't know if it's low IQ or her being so nervous that makes her ramble and says ridiculous things. Either way, she's not cut out for prime time.

You've never gotten over your initial positive feelings told her and it clouds your judgement. This is not the conclusion I wanted to come to but watching her is painful.

"1 – Palin never said "I can see Russia from my house." That was the Saturday Night Live parody of her actual statement that, (paraphrased), "You can see Russia from some areas in Alaska.""

Ok! She didn't actually say "from my house." The comment she did make was still plenty stupid, even if technically true.

And what about the nonsense about Putin "rearing his head" into Alaska? Was that Tina Fey too?

I caught her being interviewed by Andrea Mitchell this morning. Palin was out fishing. Mitchell asked some question about resigning and Palin's answer started with "You're not listening!" It sounded so weird and whiny. It was a perfect example of her akwardness and all I took away from the interview.

After they played the interview Mitchell was talking to the morning show host (Matt Laurer I'm 99% sure) and he asked something about exactly where the interview took place. Mitchell says something and then mumbles "you can see Russia for there."

The media elites really drop any pretense to objectivity when talking about her.

Still, you can hate the elites and recognize a ditz when you see one.

All that being said, an Obama Vs. Palin matchup for president would be a culture war the likes of which we've never see before. I don't think I'd do anything but sit in front of the TV for six months. I'm rooting for it regardless of any other considerations.

Why does this matter when Hispanic women have three children each?

"its marvellous miscegenation"

WTF?

"In an ideal world, women (and men) would be desired based primarily on their internal characters. "

Internal characteristics are genetically determined just as external ones are. So why is judging based on one more moral than the other? A nerdy guy can no more become and alpha male than an ugly girl can become pretty. All your doing is defining what men are programmed to like as wrong and what females are programmed to prefer as being right. This is sexist.

"Each person would be able to develop their own definition of what they find attractive based on their own life experience in a just world. "

How do people "develop their own definition of what they find attractive" in an unjust world? They base it on their genetic heritage and cultural conditioning I suppose. So in your just world individuals would develop their tastes as creatures separated from their genes and culture? What would a "person" be in that case?

Postmodern gibberish.

"Say you have two children and you have them tested with a very sophisticated model of interacting dynamics and it turns out that one has variant X of important gene Z and the other has variant Y. So, genetically, they're different.

But, guess what? They're still both your kids."

If you're not finally endorsing white nationalism, I don't know what your point is.

Re: Feminist and homosexual wars

Afghanistan and Iraq have more women in their parliaments than the US does.

Maybe that was the plan all along. Destroy the Muslims through war and feminism. It's like Testing planned the whole thing!

Maybe on some forum out there there's an Ahmed99 complaining about ARABIC WOMEN destroying civilization and their contempt for the beta Mohamed Ricci.

I say this as an anti-women's lib social conservative: men who blame these athletes for taking advantage of women throwing themselves at them are either gay, sterile or religious.

Men didn't evolve to turn down free sex. Women and society are meant to be the limiting factors.

Somewhat OT, Ron Paul blasted Sarah Palin for being a "country club Republican" … laughable since Paul himself belongs to an exclusive Texas Country Club while Palin is a moose hunter who snow-machines, and belongs to none. Paul at least sees her as a rival in 2012.

He probably is afraid of going up against her in the debates. Can you imagine Ron Paul trying to keep up with Sarah Palin on economics or foreign policy? The Mises Institue Vs. Fox News. He fears her intellect.

According to Wikipedia, 15 percent of men in the US have paid for sex at least once in their lives. I wonder why it isn't much more common. If it's the legality issue, people make trips to Amsterdam to legally smoke pot. Sex should be worth at least a trip to Nevada. Are cultural sanctions against going to a prostitute worse in America than other places?

In Tom Wolfe's "I Am Charlotte Simmons" the athletes have women coming to their hotel rooms and asking to have sex with them. A basketball forward tries to get to sleep one night and has a woman come in and maul him.

Did anybody have athletes in their social circle in college? Anybody play division one basketball or football? I'd like to know to what extent Wolfe was exaggerating if at all.

Of course!

Bring up race/IQ and bring up sex/IQ. See which ones gets people more upset at you.

Rushton has written about race and IQ differences. Which do you think that they stopped his classes for?

Though it would probably be more accurate to say that the black race trumps everything. With other races things aren't so clear cut.

Crowley is only a hero by today's cowardly standards. So he did nothing wrong and didn't apologize for it. This is bravery? Who cares if he stood up to the president? It's not like that that's a dangerous thing to do in this country.

If he would've said "Yes, I racially profile. Do you know what the black crime rate is? The president says we have a history of minorities being profiled by cops. What he doesn't mention is that it's for the obvious reason that we have a long history of minorities committing a lot of crime." then I would call him a hero.

I just wonder, in 30 years, when Barack is 70 something years old and blacks are still the most crime prone and least academically accomplished group in the nation, will he be sitting there on his rocking chair talking about the legacy of Jim Crow and the pains of modern discrimination?

For those of us who don't like liberals, at least we can take satisfaction in eventually seeing their hopes and dreams dashed.

"Have any of you met a college educated white woman under 50 who gives a damn about how affirmative action is harming their brothers or their sons or their nephews or their cousins?"

Most whites don't know how much AA there is.

People are told what the issues are based on what the media and politicians talk about. If nobody's talking about something, it doesn't exist.

I've tried to explain the extent of AA to people and they simply don't believe me. If this was such a problem, why don't even the supposedly racist Republicans talk about it?

"We cannot but regard Mrs. Clinton as a funny lady as she likes to utter such rhetoric, unaware of the elementary etiquette in the international community. Sometimes she looks like a primary schoolgirl," and that she is "by no means intelligent"

You know, the media quotes I've seen until now have cut out the "unaware of elementary etiquette" part.

I saw Clinton on Meet the Press this morning. They had a google earth type globe and everything that happens anywhere is taken for granted as Madame Secretary's business. The host wanted to know if we would "allow" Iran to go nuclear and what North Korea "must" do. Clinton said that Russia having a sphere of influence in Eastern Europe is unacceptable.

No wonder everybody hates this country. American hubris is breathtaking. There's never been a people so full of themselves. Thankfully there never will be again.

"google Iris Weinshall"

Ew!

Why do these guys chase after political power if these are the rewards? For the joy of finishing off their civilization?

"Wouldn't it be totally awesome to get a five-figure check in the mail for something you wasted time on and failed at a decade ago? So, you can see why so many minorities who didn't have a chance of getting a good score took the firefighters test — because there was always a sizable chance under Disparate Impact theory that a judge would change the rules years after the game was played and send them money."

Without evidence that this practice is well known in the black community I don't believe it. Too much foresight is necessary, too much knowledge about law and American politics.

Hypothetically though, there's all kinds of things blacks could do to get money. Say, walk around trying to piss off cops while having your friend video tape it. Or try to join a country club and then sue. Or take a bunch of kids to a pool, have them act obnoxious, and…

I don't feel like looking it up now, but on CNN today they showed Bloomberg defending a plan to give homeless people a plane ticket out of NYC if they promised not to come back. David Frum was talking about it and he said that homelessness declined by 1/3rd in the Bush years. Some CNN anchor named Katty or Candy or something (she used to be like 600 pounds, but is now down to 300) said she was deeply offended. Frum said that this was based on compassion and good for the homeless. They ended the segment with Wolf Blitzer reminding us that they're human beings.

It sounds like I dreamed the whole thing, but I swear, it happened.

Idiocracy.

I expect crime, inefficiency, a polarized country and AA due to "diversity." Can we do without all the corny photo ops, the "dialogues," the "healings," and the "we're not there yets"?

"McCain, for all his flaws, took the worst the commies could dish out and maintained his composure."

The man would've gone to nuclear war over Georgia.

I don't think he's ever been stable. The temper thing combined with the bloodlust.

Obviously, writing a half century ago, Heinlein got much wrong about the 21st Century, such as his naive assumptions that America today would still have a steel industry in Pittsburgh or an export market for its new cars.

This joke reminds me of Clockwork Orange. The author wanted to portray a completely depraved future, but in it the hoodlums came from a two parent household.

was somehow abducted off busy Wilshire Blvd. in the middle of the afternoon by a ten-time loser homeless black crackhead, and, after a tour of ATMs, murdered in her car.

It's nice to let it all out sometimes Steve.

The effects of liberalism aren't all funny stories about arsonists as firefighters and octomoms.

I remember reading that John Gotti took an IQ test in jail and got a 105. That made him a genius amongst criminals!

Really, I think if people with 115+ IQs were inclined to commit crimes, they could get away with a lot.

Steve, you're out of your league blah, blah, blah.

blah, blah, blah, Iran, blah, blah, birth control pills

My God, Testing is a prophet!

In his essay "Decline of the American Male" in USA Today, David Zinczenko, editor of Men's Health, give us a clue. "Of the 5.2 million people who've lost their jobs since last summer, four out of five were men. Some experts predict that this year, for the first time, more American women will have jobs than men."

Hire Jared Taylor to run the RNC.

A lot of people have suggested forgiving student loans.

Has anybody really suggested this? If it's a possibility I may not start paying mine back.

"f he were to read your review, I'm sure that he would sincerely deny that he's obsessed with blacks. Obsession is the wrong word for what he has there. He's going with the flow. This flow seems perverted and comical to us because we're not involved in it, but it's so huge and powerful that those who are swept up in it typically aren't even aware of its existence.

If you were tasked by some publishing house to write a history of mathematics, short-wave radio, model railroads or British comedy, you'd probably have to include a black history angle there too."

Yes! It's so obvious to us but they're clueless! It's what differentiates liberals from religious believers. The latter at least know that they're conditioned to see everything through a certain lens.

"They were dangerous because they were *potential* rivals like say, Trotsky. Ironically, the only man Stalin liked and consider as a friend was … Adolf Hitler."

They never even met you nut.

I heard Hitler was driven to despair after a lifetime of rejection by WHITE WOMEN. In the USSR, WHITE WOMEN and Muslims Tatars formed the bureaucratic machine that emasculated the Russian betas.

"I've oftened wondered why certain Jews seem to bear such overwhelming hostility for a country and its people that have been far more hospitable to them than any other place on Earth. It's almost as if they hold us in contempt for not hating them."

Why did blacks turn anti-American after desegregation and affirmative action?

Human nature.

I have this sense that Hawaii represents a Best Case Scenario for the future of humanity

Yeah, maybe if "humanity" included almost no blacks or Muslims.

In the real world, the countries with the top 50 or so birthrates in the world are all African and/or Islamic.

"Obama, according to HotAir, will be prosecuting CIA interrogators and superiors for waterboarding KSM and others. "

If only. I'm sure the CIA has been just as incompetent as the rest of government and probably more evil.

Now be nice everyone.

Interestingly, this program run by the State Department increases immigration from the seven countries that the State Department has declared "state sponsors of international terrorism:" Iran (768 visas this year), Iraq (71), Syria (62), Libya (61), Cuba (529), North Korea (four) and Sudan (1,297).

North Korea lets its citizens participate? How? That contradicts everything I've read about the country.

From Shiller's statement

"My office spends more time and resource fighting crime and violence than dealing with any other issue. My staff and I regularly exchange information with the 20th and 23rd District police regarding potentially dangerous situations and how to prevent violence or crime from occurring. And today crime and violence in the 23rd and 20th police districts is among the lowest in Chicago. But don’t take my word for it. Check it out at http://www.chicagopolice.org. Whether you search by district, ward and/or individual beat – you will find this to be true. This is a great accomplishment within a community as diverse as the 46th Ward, and the credit goes to our residents and the leadership of our police commanders."

So she admits that having a low crime rate in a "diverse" area is a real accomplishment.

"Option A: these four were specially selected as moles.
Option B: they're refugees who made it to SK/Japan/Russia and applied from embassies or consulates there."

For option A the Korean government would've had to ensure their special moles had won. Either that or train whoever wins to become one.

Option B makes a little more sense. Even escaping from North Korea is supposed to be something of a big deal.

"Question everything.

Much of what we are told is lies."

If you've got evidence that North Korea is less repressive than we've been led to believe, present it.

"As for Friedman, even a broken clock (like Ron Paul) can be right sometimes. He's dumb as a box of rocks about "the world is flat" but I'll see your dead (volunteer enlistee) with 3,000 dead Americans on 9/11. And likely 3 million dead in NYC in a few years."

You really are quite amazing.

"My name in Evil Neocon. The world is ending. No one can find mates, women have emasculated all men. Affirmative action ensures we can't get jobs. Our society is falling apart. WHITE WOMEN. We must struggle for democracy in Iraq."

What part of that doesn't fit in with the rest?

I'd just like to add that after watching Friedman's disgusting and blood thirsty idiocy I wasn't in the mood to read Testing's.

"BO, and Gordon Brown, are doing their best to project an image of weakness; and to disable the capacity of the West to defend itself. Perhaps Afghanistan is the sole exception to this. But overall the perception in the Middle East is that the USA is winding down as a world power and ultimately will do little to prevent the Islamification of Europe; as such, the last real obstacle will be out of the way, since the Europeans themselves clearly do not have the capacity to resist. In fact many do not even comprehend they have a problem. "

Dude, you live in a fantasy world if you think that Americans would ever resist the Islamization of Europe. It's actually the other way around. America wants Turkey to join the EU, the French are resisting. When Haider was brought into the cabinet in Austria it was the US that went nuts. It was America that took the side of the Muslim Bosnians and bombed the Christian Serbs.

You've inadvertently brought up another problem that the Bush/Cheney regime had. Because it was willing to bomb Muslims, the naive amongst you got the impression that they gave a damn about saving Western civilization. The Republican elite are active destroyers of it. At least a weak America would have more hesitation about screwing everything up with its empire of multiculturalism.

"the last real obstacle will be out of the way, since the Europeans themselves clearly do not have the capacity to resist"

The US as an obstacle to the destruction of the West! HAHA.

"testing 99 said…"

Oh God, why did I click on the comments?

Allow me to point to my review of a book on the great and honorable life of Shockley.

"I suspect, however, that I had also sinned by tangentially calling into question one of the sacred myths of our age, repeated endlessly by PBS: that the 1960s cultural revolution was for the benefit of blacks, when, in truth, it was for the benefit of upper middle class whites, and was very much at the expense of people farther down the social scale."

If the elites are still playing by the old rules, how did it even benefiting them?

I personally think that blacks, despite the crime, poverty, etc. may on balance still be better off under the affirmative action state. The entire black middle class was created by affirmative action and government employment.

"Now that's a solid post Steve, allow me to be the third to laud you here. It is informative, well thought out, interesting, and fair.

I could quibble about the silly Gates-Jenna 6 comparison, but I won't."

Truth, you've really mellowed out lately. You been succeeding with game, brother?

"We can agree that the military and some government employment may have helped African-Americans move out of poverty and into the middle class, but affirmative action is one of the most pernicious concepts to infect our culture. It has vastly increased distrust between all races (did that guy get into med school because he was good or because he was black? – damn hard to know), retards progress by its direct opposition to the concept of rewards based on merit (see Ricci), leads even the "advantaged" groups into self-doubt and hate that must be externalized (see Michelle Obama). Moreover, there were black intellectuals and areas with an educated, thriving, and legitimate black middle class – Harlem and D.C immediately come to mind – before affirmative action and the "liberation" Steve describes destroyed their meritocratic and disciplined social structures."

Nice job of opposing AA in a very PC way.

If blacks feel such a psychological burden from AA, why aren't they clamoring for its end? So they can be judged on their merit? Because whether whitey thinks they're competent or not the vast majority of blacks live much better off with government favoritism than without.

Powell supports affirmative action. Ethan Bonner, in a typically laudatory review of The Shape of the River (a pro-affirmative action book-Richard H.) in the New York Times (”Study Strongly Supports Affirmative Action in Admissions to Elite Colleges” (September 9, 1998): B10), quoted Powell’s derisory comment about the supposed harm that affirmative action does to its recipients’ self-esteem: “Asked about the stigma that opponents say affirmative action imposes on blacks who attend these elite colleges, General Powell was dismissive. ’I would tell black youngsters to…get one of those well-paying jobs [that they will get through affirmative action] to pay for all the therapy they’ll need to remove the stigma’.”

This "blacks are the victims of discrimination in their favor" nonsense needs to go.

Do people just tend to believe more in genes as they age? Were the youth always this silly or is it a recent development?