RSSThank you.
Just read the excerpts on The West’s Darkest Hour blog.
Reminds me how after reading Del Noce’s critique of the Sexual Revolution, I got the sinking feeling that the obvious future pendulum backswing would be towards strict Puritan again… maybe even somewhat reasonably!? That’s when Del Noce stumped me, when later mentioning in passing that he sees Puritanism as gnostic.
But to me personally Del Noce’s most consequential thesis (besides “marketing character”, permissive society, limitlessness [from Domenach?], novelty, positivism, history & authority) is about perfectism, and its automatic, unavoidable progress into totalitarianism.
I derived from it that the key distinction of Christianity to all other religions is recognizing the issue, and moving perfectism as to be only achievable in the afterworld. We can still strive without end to make things better, but it’s categorically impossible to ever get even close to large-scale perfectism on earth. But that is almost entirely forgotten in Catholic, and for sure in Protestant churches, i.e. in institutionalized Christianity. And the US was actually built around that oblivion.
And it seems to me -I’m not well read enough yet to make stronger statements- that deep thinkers such as Hegel, Nietzsche etc. couldn’t let go of their perfectist striving, even when they had completely cornered themselves philosophically.
And I’m stating all this as a small-scale perfectionist myself. Beyond that I believe I’m living proof for Dostoevsky “who regarded atheism pushed to the highest degree as the condition for the discovery of God.”
Note: “moralin-sauer” is still an, if rarely used, German word meaning something like excessive, slightly suffocating morality.
as one interviewee states: “The truth is boring.” Simple or fanciful ideas are easier to grasp and more fun.
Well it seems both the interviewee and Jonathan haven’t thought deep enough on it.
– The truth is usually simple, only the lies are complex.
The hatred of Donald Trump, which certainly to some extent is legitimate if only due to his ignorance and boorishness
It’s more than just slander.
If I take that at face value it is proof that Philip only demands ‘moderate hatred’, or in other words he has at least partially accepted the basic tenants of PC SJW.
What a letdown. I hope he gives his words second thought.
The bullshit is strong in this one.
I especially like amputated.
Good one, Ted.
I especially like your
phony compassion
when criticizing all kind of things but completely missing the two most damning ones on Trump.
Hint: one of them, in a way, indirectly associates with your book title.
courtesy of the militant atheism of the former USSR, many, if not most, people in Armenia, Azerbaijan and even Russia nowadays are agnostic secularists
Wut?
Today, and maybe courtesy of the militant atheism of the former USSR, Christian values are thriving in Russia –
and I would go even further and state Russia is the last hope for Christianity to survive in the world!
Isn't the Christian Church vitally important to the faith? Hence the following 2 aspects can't seem to reconcile with your dubious claim.https://www.crossway.org/articles/why-the-church-is-vitally-important-for-every-christian/https://www.pewforum.org/2014/02/10/russians-return-to-religion-but-not-to-church/It also appears that single parent households in Russia is on the rise...https://www.researchgate.net/publication/4750962_Single_Mothers_in_Russia_Household_Strategies_for_Coping_with_PovertyAs the saying goes... something is rotten/rotting in the state of Denmark! Russia is not the last hope for Christianity!Replies: @Mikael_
Russia is the last hope for Christianity to survive in the world!
Good article, but the last 6 paragraphs are difficult to understand and unpack for me.
So what is to be done?
That’s not coincidence that Pepe echos Lenin’s title here?
Then I’d need a mention about the pros of the Westphalian peace accord, before outright condemning and wanting to dispense with it. Also if you don’t like monopolization of power by the state, then what about the monopolization of rule of the law by the judiciary?
To me the central question seems to be if Confucianism has all the (necessary) ingredients that Christianity has. Specifically the concept of non-perfectism within this world.
All these authors that pretend to have some deep knowledge are just bullshit artists with an opinion, nothing more. Soon there will be another BS artist with a different slant.
Who cares?
I have no confidence in the dog-eaters to successfully overthrow their self-preserving-at-all-costs government without some MASSIVE fuckup on the part of the CCP or mass Christianization creating a secondary identity for the chinky bugs to clatter around. They’ve no mind for independent thought and no stomach for the initial stages of rebellion.
What we need is a giant can of Raid. That’ll do the trick.
Pointing out that
hatred of [someone] due to [that person’s] ignorance and boorishness
is not a sustainable philosphy –
is now considered Trump-worshipping, Mr. Never-Trumper?
Thanks for the good laugh!
For a site that often comes off as dissident and “fringe,” the comments too often bear a remarkable resemblance to Breitbart: mindless worship of Trump.
No one with a double digit age and a triple digit IQ would think that they must reflexively side with Trump just because he has a lot of truly awful critics and enemies who often make unfair or outright dishonest criticisms of him.
Trump’s ignorance, arrogance and complete unsuitability for his job are so obvious as to be beyond all rational dispute, but many people still dispute these things because we live in a country full of idiots and nutjobs.
Protip: Calling me an idiot or a nutjob may not be the most effective way to help me embrace your argument. But I guess "pissed-off-and-abrasive" is the default position in 2020.
Trump’s ignorance, arrogance and complete unsuitability for his job are so obvious as to be beyond all rational dispute, but many people still dispute these things because we live in a country full of idiots and nutjobs.
What a refreshing, true statement. I see DJT as a mixed bag. He has done great on some reduction in fed business regulation in my own broadcast world...probably saves me 20 hrs of unnecessary work each quarter. On the other hand he illegally (imo) forced me to destroy property, a bump stock, that BATFE had assured me was perfectly legal at no compensation. Friend of the 2nd A? Perhaps when compared to Commie-enabler Joe. Make Israel Great Again?...not a fan. Was the tax bill good for a lot of people in my family? You bet it was. (I pay slightly more now than before) It's a binary choice. One of these two scoundrels will win the contest, and given the rise of Woke-a-Stan, the choice is pretty easy.
No one with a double digit age and a triple digit IQ would think that they must reflexively side with Trump just because he has a lot of truly awful critics and enemies who often make unfair or outright dishonest criticisms of him
As for god, if you’d provide an email address or phone number, I’d appreciate it.
That would be hard, as god can best be understood as a concept, not a person.
If you are ever willing to spend 22 minutes as a rationalist with an open mind, watch that duration at the beginning of
Well only after I realized what the correct concept of God is, having been a rabid atheist all my life, did I become a believer in him/it a few years ago.
Jordan Peterson helped me with a few viewpoints (1) I didn’t consider myself before. A recorded talk shook me where an Orthodox Archpriest stated: “…others have a God of power, but the Christian is a God of weakness.”
But Augusto Del Noce really opened my eyes. I hadn’t fallen for Positivism that much as I always sensed the superficiality, but ‘mistrust of all authority’, and even more ‘dependency on nothing (2)’ – those had really gotten me (as “ideas have people”, not the other way ’round.)
Notes:
(1) Unparalleled in my opinion is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_7hCPYgXEk
Video Link
(2) That is actually the key Marxist fundamental proposition, read Del Noce.
I cannot find any deeper understanding in your article…
Read Augusto Del Noce.
He identified the core principle of Marxism to be “dependency on nothing [not even God],” for the genesis of the entirely self-created man. Therefore Marxism is atheistic, and not by accident. But it also makes Marxism the torch bearer for unfettered individualism!
Furthermore he parsed Marxism to be 80% philosophy with the goal to devalue/negate/destroy all values and all [relevance of] history, so to create a clean slate for the 20% messianic part that somehow, magically, in an unspecified way, would create the classless society afterwards.
Well guess what, the negation philosophy destroyed the messianic part too.
But if you look closely you see the 80% Marxism is nowadays predominant in -at least- all Western countries, but so far has only lead to a completely unrestrained bourgeoisie – as all limiting factors such as commonly agreed upon ultimate values, religion (but I repeat myself), and understanding of history have been dismantled.
Accordingly Del Noce’s last essay before his death in December 1989 was titled “Marxism Died in the East Because It Realized Itself in the West.”
Isn't the Christian Church vitally important to the faith? Hence the following 2 aspects can't seem to reconcile with your dubious claim.https://www.crossway.org/articles/why-the-church-is-vitally-important-for-every-christian/https://www.pewforum.org/2014/02/10/russians-return-to-religion-but-not-to-church/It also appears that single parent households in Russia is on the rise...https://www.researchgate.net/publication/4750962_Single_Mothers_in_Russia_Household_Strategies_for_Coping_with_PovertyAs the saying goes... something is rotten/rotting in the state of Denmark! Russia is not the last hope for Christianity!Replies: @Mikael_
Russia is the last hope for Christianity to survive in the world!
Isn’t the Christian Church vitally important to the faith?
Not sure, maybe for the faith part –
but vitally important to me are the Christian principles (hope and love and charity and ‘acceptance of non-perfectism within this world’),
not institutionalized Christianity.
The second linked article needs a lot of interpretation to take it as negative.
Especially you’d need to avoid any comparison to other countries.
On the third linked article: Really, info from 2000, without any later update??
That comes close to trolling on your part, in my book.
1957 and 1968?
How about you look the last 10 years and ask yourself how come all but one outbreaks of new viruses occurred in China. Not all attacking humans though, but “only” their poultry or pig industries.
The Chinese asked themselves the same question, that’s why they were pretty prepared and pulled out the big guns right away, to fight the Coronavirus after it became known to top levels.
They treated it like a bio weapon attack, what it most likely was.
And Ilana Mercer is a bullshitter par excellence in this article of hers.
Because hybrid viruses from the wild animals Chinese are eating are infecting domesticated animals like pigs and poultry that in China are kept in filthy overcrowded conditions and are thus prey to epidemics? And eventually one of these diseases from wild animals (specifically a virus from the Pangolin that is illegally hunted and trafficked to China because the stupid Chinese think it will turn them into a sexual tyrannosaurus) was so easily transmitted it was able to spread through the human population?Replies: @Mikael_
How about you look the last 10 years and ask yourself how come all but one outbreaks of new viruses occurred in China. Not all attacking humans though, but “only” their poultry or pig industries.
Ron Unz: Is there a way to put a “Troll” flag on this article?
I have to say, most articles here on the Unz site, even if IMO are wrong-headed or fallacious in their arguments, can still be assessed with some respect for the author’s perspective and deconstructed dispassionately.
This particular article, however, I find outright offensive. An insult to the reader’s intelligence, and a cynical effort to entrench anti-China dogma in a nest of disingenuous virtue-signaling which deflects the fundamental issue of just where Corona Chan actually came from to an argument over which part of the Chinese nation deserves to be blamed for it.
A clumsy ploy to preassign guilt by not even questioning the Western narrative, but instead launching into a contrived discussion over just who in China should be held accountable for the alleged crime.
Perhaps the author genuinely believes this piece to be an insightful contribution to the contemporary literature. I rather perceive it as a distasteful example of wantonly pernicious propaganda.
It reminds me a little of the Mossad’s notorious motto – “Through deception we shall wage war”.
Baron Cohen condemned Google, Facebook, YouTube and Twitter for “deliberately amplifying … stories that appeal to our baser instincts and that trigger outrage and fear”
As opposed to what he does in his “comedy” where he entraps people into behaving poorly and films the consequences? I remember in the first film he starts singing “Throw the jew Down the Well” and entreats the audience to sing along after he’s completed several verses. They do so, which is evidence of their villainy, but it stains him not.
Should have won a Grammy.
I remember in the first film he starts singing “Throw the jew Down the Well”
“But we are facing an unprecedented attack on the foundations of democracy itself. If you are a US citizen, anything less than a vote for Biden is a vote against democracy.”
They ALWAYS project.
Apparently ‘democracy’ is when media, lawyers, business, education, a large chunk of the Republican Party and Deep State are on one side, and the other side only has these strange things called ‘voters’.
100% wishful thinking from your side.
Read my post #7 above for what Marx proposed and caused (not just what he wanted.)
Or if you want to convince anybody of your view,
give us details on how exactly Marx wanted to “regulate unfettered Capitalism” – outside and beyond the Rule of Law that tries to ensure fair competition, that is.
Because hybrid viruses from the wild animals Chinese are eating are infecting domesticated animals like pigs and poultry that in China are kept in filthy overcrowded conditions and are thus prey to epidemics? And eventually one of these diseases from wild animals (specifically a virus from the Pangolin that is illegally hunted and trafficked to China because the stupid Chinese think it will turn them into a sexual tyrannosaurus) was so easily transmitted it was able to spread through the human population?Replies: @Mikael_
How about you look the last 10 years and ask yourself how come all but one outbreaks of new viruses occurred in China. Not all attacking humans though, but “only” their poultry or pig industries.
Because the MSM told you so?
I have a different theory to offer: because someone was attacking Chinese food supplies/sources.
Especially the fact that far-off pig farms got mysteriously infected too. Until it turned out criminals were using drones to “seed” those.
Witty Viktor Pelevin in his new novel suggests a different date:
Every Pelevin novel is of course mandatory reading, however they stopped translating his stuff for self-evident reasons.
The last ones to be translated though, are still brilliant, and available in English. The man himself has stated that he has nothing against people pirating his books, BTW.
This one is the last translated novel, where he started going off the reservation far too boldly:
https://graycity.net/victor-pelevin/221554-empire_v.html
Already deconstructing through pop culture allegory the parasite-predator system, but still had not yet began having characters literally contact CIA agents through forums for hypno-porn transvestites, or KGB-coerced Russian Jews on acid in sensory deprivation tanks sending “messages from God” to US presidents, or MtF feminists practice neolithic Castanedian magic against men…
Once that started going down the translations mysteriously stopped.
Pigs are notorious for suffering from the same diseases as humans, and having pathogens that can cause disease in humans (tapeworms from "measly pork" for example). The Chinese countryside is full of people living much closer to pigs than is common elsewhere in the world, where pigs are considered unclean animals ro be kept at a distance. The Chinese know better, or think they do. Civets are wild animals that the Chinese cage and horribly mistreat so they can defecate beans for what is supposed to make the world's best tasting coffee. The Chinese think eating the body parts of Pangolins will make one more virile. The propositions are equally dubious. This is a billion backward people who still use their own excrement as fertiliser in many rural areas, and are bringing isolated disease pools in wild and domestic animal species into intimate contact with one another and humans too. How could the Chinese possibly have known that something like this current pangolin-bat chimerical virus pandemic in humans could happen? There was only the 20003 civet--bat chimerical virus epidemic, and whole world begging them to stop the wet markets with associated wild animal trafficking before they created something even worse? Oh, and the model of HIV which got into humans through the chimp bushmeat trade.Replies: @Mikael_
I have a different theory to offer: because someone was attacking Chinese food supplies/sources. Especially the fact that far-off pig farms got mysteriously infected too.
So, according to you, humans were the carriers of swine flu to those far-off pig farms?
OK, got it, you’re a troll.
I have a different theory to offer: because someone was attacking Chinese food supplies/sources. Especially the fact that far-off pig farms got mysteriously infected too.
Pigs are notorious for suffering from the same diseases as humans, and having pathogens that can cause disease in humans (tapeworms from “measly pork” for example). The Chinese countryside is full of people living much closer to pigs than is common elsewhere in the world, where pigs are considered unclean animals ro be kept at a distance. The Chinese know better, or think they do.
Civets are wild animals that the Chinese cage and horribly mistreat so they can defecate beans for what is supposed to make the world’s best tasting coffee. The Chinese think eating the body parts of Pangolins will make one more virile. The propositions are equally dubious. This is a billion backward people who still use their own excrement as fertiliser in many rural areas, and are bringing isolated disease pools in wild and domestic animal species into intimate contact with one another and humans too.
How could the Chinese possibly have known that something like this current pangolin-bat chimerical virus pandemic in humans could happen? There was only the 20003 civet–bat chimerical virus epidemic, and whole world begging them to stop the wet markets with associated wild animal trafficking before they created something even worse? Oh, and the model of HIV which got into humans through the chimp bushmeat trade.
I’m not sure I want someone like you lecturing us on morality, Fred.
You’re basically stating over and over, that the US should strive to maintain its ‘Only Empire in the World’ approach (which it did since at least Clinton),
but Trump is just doing it wrong.
What a total shill job by Reuters
Putin: “…see nothing criminal…”
Trump: “…used the debates to make accusations that Biden and his son Hunter engaged in unethical practices…”
Reuters: “…marking out [Putin’s] disagreement with one of Donald Trump’s attack lines…”
While dfordoom is completely correct in your cited comment,
he/she forgot to extend the line of thought to the non-elites:
Somewhere between late 1970’s and early 90’s the majority of working class people decided they also see no reason to be fearful anymore, for example that immoral behavior would lead to serious negative reverberations for them, down the road.
And as today’s problems are more bottom-up that top-down issues, that had an even bigger impact on the direction of our country (and the whole West.)
I'm not sure that the majority of working class people decided any such thing. It depends of course on what exactly you mean by working class, and what exactly you mean by immoral behaviour.
Somewhere between late 1970’s and early 90’s the majority of working class people decided they also see no reason to be fearful anymore, for example that immoral behavior would lead to serious negative reverberations for them, down the road.
An interesting assertion but very dubious. If "immoral behaviour" no longer has consequences that is certainly not the result of decisions made by ordinary working class people. It wasn't working class people who made the decisions about how the police and the courts would deal with crimes such as drug offences, or made the decisions to introduce no-fault divorce and to legalise abortion or to legalise homosexuality or to remove the stigma of illegitimacy or to remove the stigma attached to pre-marital sex or any of the other decisions that have changed society so radically.
And as today’s problems are more bottom-up that top-down issues
You didn’t get it, or are you deliberately glossing it over?
Reuters claimed a disagreement where there is no factual one.
Their whole article is a laughable attempt to exaggerate difference in used words, or even just visible irritation (about what exactly? why no video link?) into some foundational differences.
One more time very slowly:
Putin said “saw nothing criminal”, while Trump never stated Biden’s action were clearly illegal.
Trump said “Biden and his son Hunter engaged in unethical practices”, while Putin never disputed that or just declared said practices to be acceptable.
Now where’s the disagreement exactly?
Yes, exactly as in 2016 nobody was swayed by DNC shenanigan emails or being called “Deplorables.”
Pretty lame if that was the best Anatoly could come up to downplay this.
This article is a classic example of a slick marketing psy-op attempting to persuade people into believing that if capitalism did not exist, that we would be living in a Utopian paradise where only humanitarian goals would be implemented by the power structure. They have a very strong motive to persuade people into accepting this myth which can be proven to be a complete lie. They want to keep the system in place. They want to keep the people in place. They do not want to be held accountable for the actual problem, their own crime spree. It wasn’t their fault, it was the system’s fault.
This article ironically uses the tobacco industry as an example of capitalism run amok.
This article ironically does not acknowledge that Cuba, probably the most communist country in existence or at least on par with North Korea has sold Cuban cigars for centuries!
The problem is corruption! Greed, and corruption can still exist in communist and socialist countries, and it has, and it still does. We know this to be a fact because China, Cuba, and Venezuela are all involved in The Big Lie, The Scamdemic, If capitalism is the problem, there would not be corruption in socialist and communist economies.
Global Research has to their credit been a valuable source of scientific information regarding the Scamdemic, but why it is that Global Research refuses to hold China, Cuba, and Venezuela accountable for scientific fraud and extreme human rights abuses as a result of the Scamdemic is seriously problematic. They blame America, yet will not acknowledge that if America was actually as in control of the world as they claim that it is, America’s economy would be growing at a rate that surpasses China’s, and that America would not have the deficit problems, or the financial problems that it has.
Most economies in the world are a combination of socialism, communism, capitalism, mercantilsm, feudalism, and agrarianism.
These are slick marketing tactics.
China allows private property ownership, private business ownership, and China also has a stock market, so exactly what is not capitalism in China is a mystery! China also has billionaires and millionaires!
This is all a slick marketing fraud! It is also a total insult to people’s intelligence! Should we blame it on capitalism, communism, socialism, or corruption?
Andrea Iravani
There are a few separate scandals that have come from the Hunter Biden emails.
1. Hunter Biden’s clear illegal actions (smoking crack or meth – let the experts figure that out) and potential underage hijinks which have had zero legal consequences to him (as opposed to the ordinary citizen who would definitely suffer consequences)
2. Hunter selling access to his father Joe. The emails prove what is pretty much known in Ukraine, that Joe Biden was at the least aware and took action to benefit Hunter and potentially himself (it’s all the same thing: the family is pretty right). Ironically this is the kind of corruption familiar to Russia/Ukraine and which the US keeps pointing out. It is clear now that this goes on in the US as well (not that anyone doubted it; the emails are more proof of that)
3. The media’s absolute censorship, attacks on those who revealed these emails as part of a “Russian Disinfo” operation and denying there was anything to see here. This was the clearest evidence yet of Big Media is all-in for Biden and will gaslight the public – and even tell them that it is! (See Taibbi and Greenwald articles) – at will.
4. Clear evidence that Big Tech will act to protect Biden by throttling the reach of stories that were they about Trump would be encouraged to amplify even more loudly.
5. More clear evidence of the so-called deep state – the US siloviki – who sat on the evidence in the laptop for almost a year and when revealed start putting out disinfo about Russia
Each one of these is a major scandal – and taken together show the deep corruption baked into the US with the DC-establishment (and its European counterparts), Big Media and Big Tech colluding to censor, threaten and spread disinfo while allowing deep corruption within the state.
Yes,
it’s peculiar that Karlin reduces the whole scandal down to just one, probably least harmful thing of all and one has to wonder why is that.
I’m looking forward to reading Mr. Karlin’s straightforward, non-snarky response.
Karlin isn't a serious writer...too full of himself.
I’m looking forward to reading Mr. Karlin’s straightforward, non-snarky response.
Excellent, insightful article.
I always thought, on the outer limit, the US empire will be clearly over when one of their carriers is sunk, but you make a much better point about things at the margin, instead of extremes.
I will read Greer’s book now!
Jeepers, read a newspaper once in a while! Obama invaded Syria and turned Libya into a garbage dump run by feral sand apes.Replies: @Peter Akuleyev, @anonymous
Neither did Obama. Much like Trump he talked peace while giving the military a free hand to screw around in the Middle East, but Obama didn’t start anything.
In your fever dreams. By American standards neither Syria nor Libya count as anything like a war. We have troops running around Africa too. Obama fucked up in Libya for sure but for the most part used proxies and actual US involvement was minimal. Which is why Benghazi happened – we didn’t have boots on the ground protecting the Consulate.
Syria was just an extension of Bush’s Iraq policy in any case, and if you back and look at the establishment newspapers from back then you will mostly see people complaining that Obama wasn’t committing to a real war.
If you remember, the attacks against Hillary Rodham were that she was going to be a real hawk, not a wuss like Obama.
The US military was key to destroying the Libyan government. A dozen US warships and hundreds of aircraft with thousands of American troops were used. Hillary Clinton organized all this and provided a billion dollars of arms to imported foreign jihadists, who were then shipped to Syria. Details here:
but for the most part used proxies and actual US involvement was minimal.
Nice piece, but let's not get carried away here.The French empire stopped existing the same time the British empire did--the mid 1960s. Before that it was huge. It spanned the globe. And today France is still a reasonably functional first world country and a major regional power. So if "the empire died" in the late 18th century, then the process of "dying" continued for like 170 years, and for much of that time "France" meant "one of the top two world powers". And, again, today France is still a reasonably functional first world country and a major regional power. Likewise with Russia. The death blow to the empire is probably the 1905 defeat by the Japs and the first revolution then. The actual death happened in 1917. But then a "second empire" (just like with France) was built by Stalin. And that one collapsed in 1991. And now Russia is also a reasonably functional country and a major regional power. One might argue that technology speeds up time. As if it took France's "second empire" (I use the term very loosely) about 170 years to rise and decline, and it took Russia's "second empire" (from WWII victory onwards) half of France's 170 years, then maybe in the 21st century America's "second empire phase" will last what, 25 years? 15 years? But it is definitely possible.And after this, should America also retreat into the state of being a reasonably functional great power, like France and Russia are today--maybe that's how second half of the 21st century will pass.Not counting AI singularities an sheit, of course. All bets are off if AI singularities an sheit start going down. Or a Kanye West + Tucker Carlson presidency.Replies: @Realist, @Sollipsist, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Ray Caruso
Empires don’t resurrect. It has been tried in the past (even by Napoleon), it never works. Once empires lose momentum and, especially, their ideological credibility, they are over.
Nice piece, but let’s not get carried away here.
When a major party, in a country, presents a candidate like Biden, and a large number of people vote for him…that country is fucking dead. But this happened after a decades long illness.
Saker is so full of shit he’s in need of a roto-rooter operation.
Disinformation specialist, concocting lies and fabricated past discussions as if he’s some kind of Geo-Pol Socrates.
The US Empire became officially and finally the Jew-S Empire on 9/11/2001.
It has not collapsed. If anything, it is stronger today than then.
Why?
Because they are more desperate than ever to complete this “endgame”.
That’s means they are far more likely to use Military Power than ever before… ESPECIALLY Nuclear Weapons.
And Saker (((Faker)))… stop picking your nose at the New Smyrna Beach Winn Dixie deli counter. It’s not only unseemly, it spreads germs.
I'm not sure that the majority of working class people decided any such thing. It depends of course on what exactly you mean by working class, and what exactly you mean by immoral behaviour.
Somewhere between late 1970’s and early 90’s the majority of working class people decided they also see no reason to be fearful anymore, for example that immoral behavior would lead to serious negative reverberations for them, down the road.
An interesting assertion but very dubious. If "immoral behaviour" no longer has consequences that is certainly not the result of decisions made by ordinary working class people. It wasn't working class people who made the decisions about how the police and the courts would deal with crimes such as drug offences, or made the decisions to introduce no-fault divorce and to legalise abortion or to legalise homosexuality or to remove the stigma of illegitimacy or to remove the stigma attached to pre-marital sex or any of the other decisions that have changed society so radically.
And as today’s problems are more bottom-up that top-down issues
By working class I mean the vast majority of Americans who wouldn’t be able to cover a $500 unexpected outlay (as most of the middle class has been bled dry over the last 20 years.)
Here the definition or ‘moral’ I agree 100% with:
Existentialists say: Immoral things are precisely those things that you CANNOT get away with. That’s why people have identified them as immoral! The consequences of enacting will inevitably bear back on you, or the people you love.
And Jordan B.Peterson continued:
Modern relativists like to think of morality like something that’s just arbitrary, like it’s a cultural construction. […] But the Existentialists just undercut all that, they say “well, what’s immoral are those things -that you could change- that you do, that result in outcomes that are catastrophic for you.” That’s it, that’s what immoral is. So that’s universal, because it doesn’t really matter what the details are.
Working class people decided by their actions, not by making a well thought-through decision and then announcing it.
Don’t twist my words, please. I stated that working class people acted if is their immoral actions had no consequences. I didn’t say that assumption was correct.
You are implying the courts even could fix all (major) countries’ ills. That’s a kind of superhero fairy tale belief. And where do the impartial, wise judges come from?
What do you think the ‘march through the institutions’ exactly means??
No, I was merely asking you to define your terms more clearly. Which you've now done.
Don’t twist my words, please. I stated that working class people acted if is their immoral actions had no consequences.
No, but I did imply that in many cases things were better (not perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but better) when courts imposed penalties on immoral behaviours such as drug usage.
You are implying the courts even could fix all (major) countries’ ills. That’s a kind of superhero fairy tale belief. And where do the impartial, wise judges come from?
Viet Nam 62.4%
That data point alone is quite funny.
It makes me wonder if Vietnamese consider Chinese a different race, and the answer is most likely Yes.
Which however makes the whole comparison an exercise in pure bullshittery, as I don’t expect more than a microscopic small fraction of Germans to consider French or Danish to be of a different race, for example.
Exactly. How was "race" translated into Burmese, Vietnamese, or Turkish, and what ordinary respondent imagined when he heard this word? Do Turks see Kurds and Arabs as "another race"?These "value surveys" that try to apply American concept of "race" into completely different societies , in completely different context (see also people who want to organize BLM protest in South Korea). are utterly useless.You can as well imagine Americans answering Indian survey what caste they are and how they feel about unclean people of lower castes.Replies: @Blinky Bill, @The Spirit of Enoch Powell
It makes me wonder if Vietnamese consider Chinese a different race, and the answer is most likely Yes.
Which however makes the whole comparison an exercise in pure bullshittery, as I don’t expect more than a microscopic small fraction of Germans to consider French or Danish to be of a different race, for example.
Progressives Want a Revolution
False.
They don’t want a revolution, they want perpetual revolution so they can always ignore as irrelevant what they themselves did yesterday.
The central idea of progressivism is ‘history doesn’t matter, because nothing can be learned from history, as everything is different this time.’
His attitudes towards the environment and climate change are also a disgrace…
Somewhere, little Greta contorts her face in approval.
This is the scam that Americans have been subject to for decades. In the 70s, I had been out of the country long enough to buy a car and bring it back duty free. I looked into a Mini which was getting about 45 mpg in actual not EPA mileage. I was told that that wasn't what I could buy, because this Mini didn't meet EPA emissions standards by about 5%. The Mini sent to North America met the standards, but in order to do that, they had to "de-tune" the engine, which meant a drop in mileage of about 10%. In reality, although the EPA rating was met, the car polluted more.
that more resources are wasted conforming to them than simply agreeing to some level to technology that balances between fuel efficiency and the consumers costs.
You have very little clue what you’re talking about, technically.
In the late 70s my family exported a two months old VW Rabbit (Golf) to Germany. At arrival the garage had to rip out the catalytic converter because you couldn’t buy/get unleaded fuel in Germany at the time. (And that only finally changed in 1984.)
So in other words all countries outside the US had no emissions standards worth speaking of, in the 70s.
In the early 2010s you could even in effing California still buy a new VW Jetta TDI (turbo-diesel) that got you about 48mpg highway.
After continuous tightening of the allowed NOx emissions for diesel engines (those are not a problem for gasoline engines with catalytic converter), some years ago the effort and cost became close to prohibitive for diesel light cars. VW and most other cars makers tried to use all regulatory loopholes, and then some, to let their diesel cars still pass emission testing. VW may have stepped over the line the most (others did too), but in the end the ongoing public condemnation is just a dog&pony show, as just a few years earlier those ‘excessive’ emissions would have been absolutely legal – and still no pedestrians had dropped dead on street corners.
https://greenwald.substack.com/p/my-resignation-from-the-interceptReplies: @Rich, @animalogic, @Mikael_, @Ace, @DextersLabRat
Today I sent my intention to resign from The Intercept, the news outlet I co-founded in 2013 with Jeremy Scahill and Laura Poitras, as well as from its parent company First Look Media.The final, precipitating cause is that The Intercept’s editors, in violation of my contractual right of editorial freedom, censored an article I wrote this week, refusing to publish it unless I remove all sections critical of Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden, the candidate vehemently supported by all New-York-based Intercept editors involved in this effort at suppression.The censored article, based on recently revealed emails and witness testimony, raised critical questions about Biden’s conduct. Not content to simply prevent publication of this article at the media outlet I co-founded, these Intercept editors also demanded that I refrain from exercising a separate contractual right to publish this article with any other publication.
Progressives are antiwar
Sounds attractive,
until you realize that all progressives are utopian thinkers, and therefore will remove anybody standing in their perceived path to Utopia by all means necessary.
In other words maybe no external war with progressives, but unlimited internal suppression instead.
You already forgot around what this discussion started?
Let me remind you:
today’s problems are more bottom-up that top-down issues
I stand by that stance,
and all your counter-examples only showcase where the laws were changed after a majority of individuals had changed their thinking about the rules they want to live by already years beforehand.
I think that may be true in some cases, but I'm not convinced that people just spontaneously change their thinking about the rules they want to live by. I think that to a large extent such changes are promoted and encouraged from the top down. Often aggressively promoted.I stand by that stance,
today’s problems are more bottom-up that top-down issues
and all your counter-examples only showcase where the laws were changed after a majority of individuals had changed their thinking about the rules they want to live by already years beforehand.
Laughable how you completely ignore Augusto Del Noce and some of his points I tried to lay out in my post #7 above.
And with your logic you could also defend Keynes to have been entirely correct, only the politicians didn’t follow all his advice.
Which basically both lead to the line
‘Karl Marx [or Keynes] was right, but he picked the wrong species.’ — Bert Hölldobler
Regarding your last sentence:
I don’t have to defend anything. Every system is always partially corrupt, and partially tyrannical. It takes continued effort from the citizens to keep it from descending into worse, and even bigger effort to improve it a little – but reaching perfection [in the earthly world] is categorically impossible.
Our system to try to make the small individual powerful enough to challenge negative developments even against rich people or corporations is the Rule of Law, as I mentioned in my post before and you ignored entirely. (However, the Rule of Law is also a system…)
Marx has nothing useful to add to that approach, except violence justified by the fig leaf of a theoretical utopia to be reached.
The timing of the weeks four separate bombshells alleging a Biden family pay-to-play scheme mimic off course the effects of the July 22 and November 6th, 2016 Wikileaks pre-election revelations.
Though I’m going to vote for him, there are a few things that really bother me about Trump. One of them is that he’s left Julian Assange hung out to dry. Shameful. He needs to do the right thing and preemptively pardon him. His administration is the outlaw here with its completely illegal prosecution of this guy.
https://theintercept.com/2020/10/06/julian-assange-trial-extradition/
The fact that the NYT and the rest of the MSM are ignoring his extradition should tell you just how evil our effort to extradite him here really is.
Some might suggest that Assange hung himself out to dry. Stupid.
Though I’m going to vote for him, there are a few things that really bother me about Trump. One of them is that he’s left Julian Assange hung out to dry. Shameful.
The first link you provided leads to an article written by John Yoo.
That name rings any bells? Torture memo??
Not a reason to unequivocally discard it before reading, but I’d take it at least with a truck-load of salt.
Eisenhower, Kennedy, and Carter.
Not just a criminal, but a war criminal, and guilty of massive crimes against humanity. And a puppet for the One World Mafia. If you think that's hyperbole, then please justify that mediocrity's participation in the war on anti-Communists and his treatment of both Russian and German POWs after the fighting stopped.If it were otherwise he would have experienced a Patton, Forrestal, or Kennedy moment.
Eisenhower...
Eisenhower…
Not just a criminal, but a war criminal, and guilty of massive crimes against humanity. And a puppet for the One World Mafia. If you think that’s hyperbole, then please justify that mediocrity’s participation in the war on anti-Communists and his treatment of both Russian and German POWs after the fighting stopped.
If it were otherwise he would have experienced a Patton, Forrestal, or Kennedy moment.
https://greenwald.substack.com/p/my-resignation-from-the-interceptReplies: @Brett Redmayne-Titley, @Biff
Today I sent my intention to resign from The Intercept, the news outlet I co-founded in 2013 with Jeremy Scahill and Laura Poitras, as well as from its parent company First Look Media.
The final, precipitating cause is that The Intercept’s editors, in violation of my contractual right of editorial freedom, censored an article I wrote this week, refusing to publish it unless I remove all sections critical of Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden, the candidate vehemently supported by all New-York-based Intercept editors involved in this effort at suppression.
The censored article, based on recently revealed emails and witness testimony, raised critical questions about Biden’s conduct. Not content to simply prevent publication of this article at the media outlet I co-founded, these Intercept editors also demanded that I refrain from exercising a separate contractual right to publish this article with any other publication.
Not surprising.
I, today, received a scathing email from Gordon Duff editor of Veterans Today who wrote about my article:
It appears to be a disinformation piece wrongly couched in a weak tome regarding the electoral process. The meat of the piece seems to be a calculated deception to raise as many issues to help Trump and his Zionist masters as possible. I am getting spam like this all the time now, articles based on GOP “talking points.” Just before an election I would expect to be offered cash to place something like this or, if I were to write it, a huge paycheck. The Hunter Biden story is fake. Minutes ago, we found Tucker Carlson’s story about stolen papers fake as well, UPS just delivered them a day late.
I very politely challenged Duff to provide just one fact that would refute the allegations against Biden, to which he replied,
It is not for me to disprove, it is for you to substantiate
Such are the excuses for censorship of this story.
As to Greenwald and the Intercept, considering his rag has not offered one word countering the MSM narrative on Covid19, ever, his outraged departure certainly adds to the overall claims of massive media censorship since he was good at it himself.
As I said in reply to Gordon Duff, and this should be asked of every publication not examining the allegations with facts;
I ask you for facts and you give me unfounded accusations of my work, and not one word to refute the Biden story? I expected better. Just one fact is all I asked for….and you couldn’t do it. Why is that?
At this point it is the censorship more than any one allegation that is providing legitimacy to the Biden story. Perhaps to my analysis as well.
The Intercept is NOT Mr. Greenwald's "rag." Mr. Greenwald co-founded The Intercept, but was never its editor or co-editor. Rather often, he disagreed vocally, even harshly, with the contents of articles The Intercept published.Before Mr. Greenwald was an excellent journalist, he was an excellent lawyer. For both reasons, he is distinguished very markedly from you.You ought offer Glenn Greenwald several pounds of your flesh to induce him to teach you (a) how to comprehend properly the U.S. constitution (which you misperceive or misconstrue egregiously), (b) how to compose an intelligent, logical, rational, factually tenable article put with linguistically sound prose, and (c) how to avoid libeling one of the few actual journalists remaining in the West.Replies: @Mikael_
As to Greenwald and the Intercept, considering his rag has not offered one word countering the MSM narrative....
I've always wondered at the dichotomy between The Intercept and it's (co)founder. Greenwald, while certainly a man of the left, writes intelligently and call outs hypocrisy regardless of the source. The Intercept on the other hand...I haven't visited lately but my usual thought when heading their way was, "Let's see what idiocy they're pushing today." Mostly tinfoil hat territory.
As to Greenwald and the Intercept
In my comment of October 29, 2020 at 8:38 pm GMT (comment # 79), I put a general criticism of your libelous or ignorant/flagrantly-reckless statement concerning Glenn Greenwald. Here is a specific debunking wrought by hard evidence not only of the despicable falsehood of your statement but also of the quality of actual journalism (of which you are both incapable and an epitome of its opposite):
As to Greenwald and the Intercept, considering his rag has not offered one word countering the MSM narrative....
The Intercept is NOT Mr. Greenwald's "rag." Mr. Greenwald co-founded The Intercept, but was never its editor or co-editor. Rather often, he disagreed vocally, even harshly, with the contents of articles The Intercept published.Before Mr. Greenwald was an excellent journalist, he was an excellent lawyer. For both reasons, he is distinguished very markedly from you.You ought offer Glenn Greenwald several pounds of your flesh to induce him to teach you (a) how to comprehend properly the U.S. constitution (which you misperceive or misconstrue egregiously), (b) how to compose an intelligent, logical, rational, factually tenable article put with linguistically sound prose, and (c) how to avoid libeling one of the few actual journalists remaining in the West.Replies: @Mikael_
As to Greenwald and the Intercept, considering his rag has not offered one word countering the MSM narrative....
#75, #79, #110
Comments posted: 3
Fact-based arguments presented, that refute anything BRT wrote: 0
Immensely long-winded, copiously error-ridden, ignorant, extensively illogical, linguistically incompetent, dangerous idiocy does not deserve my argument. But in my comment of October 30, 2020 at 7:37 pm GMT (comment # 110), I provided links that show Brett Redmayne-Titley a cretin who utters grossly negligent assertions that effect libel.
Fact-based arguments....
The phrase "more than half the states" ought to be "about half the states."
10 U.S. Code § 251, too, is marginally pertinent, but practically useless. It would be effectively nugatory in more than half the states — the Democrat-controlled states.
The repair guy was tasked to recover the contents of the laptop, i.e. its hard drive(s).
The obvious way to try recovery is to attempt reading out all data, i.e. make a copy.
If the guy has enough storage capacity available in his repair shop, he very well might keep the copy until the customer picks up the laptop and doesn’t come back complaining some data is inaccessible, for a few weeks or so.
Nothing far-fetched on that end.
Pretty much agree.
Only one more point you didn’t mention:
This election’s “Deplorables” moment was the “I hope he dies” comment wave when he was in hospital, without any Dem calling for temperance.
But Trump is and will continue to be a liability, in many ways. His personality turns off a lot of what were once the normal Republican demographic – educated whites. I have lots of friends who have left the Republican fold, some of them thanks to Trump, others during the Bush Administration. If the fact that the last four Republican nominees are George W Bush, John McCain, Mitt Romney, and Donald Trump doesn’t seriously depress you then you probably aren’t a real conservative.
Yeah, the Republican candidates–an unimpressive lot.
And yeah, Trump–his glaring insecurities, intellectual laziness, poor personnel choices, and rhetorical incoherence–is a frustrating guy.
But weirdly Trump is the only one of the Republican candidates who is actually something of a conservative. He actually shows some inkling–in fits and spurts–that he wants to conserve the American people and nation.
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The real issue here is with your “friends”. Are they actually your “friends” in any meaningful sense? Do they share with you a common interest in preserving your nation for their children and yours?
I’d submit they are “the problem”. We have a large class of educated white people who are
a) deeply stupid
and
b) fundamentally disloyal.
Millions of “educated” whites now are so deeply steeped in Jewish minoritarian ideology that they are basically clueless saps cheering on their own destruction. They are like ghetto leaders helping maintain orderly loading of boxcars for relocation.
They have never given any serious thought to what is civilization? How is it created? Maintained? And Western Civilization–How was it built? Why is it valuable? Who and what is required to maintain it?
These “educated” whites just float in some cloud. They are actually loyal to nothing. (Yours may be loyal to their church–but that’s it.) They are not loyal to and do nothing to maintain Western civilization or the American nation. They don’t even think about the former–though they live off of its accomplishments. And they have a deeply stupid, ridiculous notion of the later. They nominally “care” about their family, their children … but have no deep loyalty toward their future and vote against their children’s, their posterity’s own future and survival.
Your “friends” are the problem..
Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Wilkey
Even now we’re standing there dying, daring to do nothing decisive, because we’ve declared ourselves to be better than our terrorist enemies -- more moral, more civilized. Our image is at stake, we insist. But we didn’t come this far because we’re made of sugar candy.
Once upon a time, we elbowed our way onto and into this continent by giving small pox infected blankets to native Americans. Yes, that was biological warfare! And we used every other weapon we could get our hands on to grab this land from whomever. And we grew prosperous. And, yes, we greased the skids with the sweat of slaves.
And so it goes with most nation states, which, feeling guilty about their savage pasts, eventually civilize themselves out of business and wind up invaded, and ultimately dominated by the lean, hungry and up and coming who are not made of sugar candy.
True. It's so hard to find any politician who says plainly that he cares about preserving his nation (this doesn't apply just to American ones, of course). Most "conservatives", for instance, can't criticise immigration without claiming that's because it's bad for the immigrants (no employment for them, etc.) or that too much immigration would "increase racism". I wish someone would just say, "We like our country as it is, and immigration will change it permanently". Trump falls a long way short of the ideal defender of the American nation, but he's an improvement on his rivals in both parties.
But weirdly Trump is the only one of the Republican candidates who is actually something of a conservative. He actually shows some inkling–in fits and spurts–that he wants to conserve the American people and nation.
I think that may be true in some cases, but I'm not convinced that people just spontaneously change their thinking about the rules they want to live by. I think that to a large extent such changes are promoted and encouraged from the top down. Often aggressively promoted.I stand by that stance,
today’s problems are more bottom-up that top-down issues
and all your counter-examples only showcase where the laws were changed after a majority of individuals had changed their thinking about the rules they want to live by already years beforehand.
I agree with what you wrote.
But what is the solution to fix the mess?
One can
a) use top-down to ‘easily change people’s thinking’, but that requires to put the right people at the top, which can be torpedoed, as they can as easily be changed again – and who controls the controllers?
b) use the slow and painful bottom-up approach to try to let the regular folks form a morality that they (somewhat) understand in its reasoning. Major advantage: after you achieved that, even a malicious top level guy won’t be able to quickly sway the majority of people into immoral acts.
Which is IMPO the Christian way.
I circle back to my mention of ‘march through the institutions.’
What happened there? It was a bottom-up approach too, but in that case with malicious intent. Sure, I never stated bottom-up is any guarantee for good outcome.
So it will take the same time -about a generation- to “fix” things again, in the optimal case.
But any hope for a superman able to cut corners to speed up that process will very likely fail, and almost ensure an even worse situation replaces the current one.
The ‘long march through the institutions' may have been to some extent a bottom-up phenomenon but it was conducted by people who were organised, focused and highly motivated and they had a coherent plan to seize power. And they had leaders. And they always had some elite support.
I circle back to my mention of ‘march through the institutions.’
What happened there? It was a bottom-up approach too, but in that case with malicious intent. Sure, I never stated bottom-up is any guarantee for good outcome.
So it will take the same time -about a generation- to “fix” things again, in the optimal case.
Immensely long-winded, copiously error-ridden, ignorant, extensively illogical, linguistically incompetent, dangerous idiocy does not deserve my argument. But in my comment of October 30, 2020 at 7:37 pm GMT (comment # 110), I provided links that show Brett Redmayne-Titley a cretin who utters grossly negligent assertions that effect libel.
Fact-based arguments....
Next time if you don’t want to waste your breath, sketch a rough outline of your opinion and provide a link to an old comment of yours where you made a detailed argument supplied by verifiable facts, on matters of law (and hinted at your credentials) so we can see you can make thoughtful arguments. Don’t go full ad hominem without arguments, that just makes you look bad.
I’ve been on Unz only for 5 months now. I am a refugee from ZH, from where I had to flee due to excessive biased and/or click-bait articles, after being there for 10 years.
Some introductory remarks:
The ‘Rule of Law’ is a system. As Jordan B. Peterson explains nicely, “every system is always partially tyrannical, and partly corrupt.” Which means in the end we need to identify the underlying moral principles (or the ‘commonly agreed upon highest values’, if you are of a more atheistic bent) to steer the system in the right direction.
If this is too philosophical or even sophist to you and you prefer more pragmatic / practical, ask yourself, as I did once: “What is the first priority of the Rule of Law?”
My answer: “To preserve the Rule of Law, whatever that currently is, in your time and location.”
Now back to the issues at hand, as I see it US law and the Constitution leave a lot of details not fleshed out, even before going to Orwellian redefinition of words. Especially as you haven’t taken the time to refute just one of BRT’s interpretations by pointing to a written law, I have to assume your argument is mostly based on previous court decisions. Fair enough.
But I understand BRT’s attempt to interpret the laws as originally written, maybe even to their limits. Chief Justice Roberts style, so to speak.
Otherwise nobody would be allowed to utter a single word, maybe not even you if you’re not an expert on Constitutional law – and we all would have to subdue to the ‘reign of experts’ by the handful of such scholars in our country.
And if it comes to legal fights after the election (I actually don’t expect so), BRT’s exercise has some use.
I cannot vote for Trump again for two reasons: Assange and Soleimani. I still believe Trump will win, even so decisively that already on Wednesday evening the result cannot be seriously contested, so no Supreme Court involvement. But that doesn’t solve any underlying issues, and the US will see hyperinflation within the next 10 years, and maybe a civil war, and with some possibility a break-up of the union (with or without civil war.) Think about the USSR in 1990 for illustration.
Finally one note on GG and the Intercept:
I do not see Glenn as a shining beacon of journalism. His coverage of the Brazilian trials and tribulations -as far as I remember-, always had this underlying assumption “after the bad actor [Lula, …] is removed, the next one will be much better, automatically” which to me is unfortunately close to deranged leftist do-gooderism. That’s why I stopped reading TI years ago. And up to a few days ago I wasn’t aware he and Poitras had no bigger influence at all in The Intercept… and I have to chalk that up in large part as their [GG & Poitras] fault, as I read a lot of different sources, as long as they follow reason.
So all the best for GG’s future, a positive decision has been made by him; but he still has to clean up some of the mess he was part in creating.
Petersen's assertion lacks perspicacity. Professor Leonard R. Jaffee saw the matter clearly, fully, correctly:
The ‘Rule of Law’ is a system. As Jordan B. Peterson explains nicely, “every system is always partially tyrannical, and partly corrupt.”
Leonard R. Jaffee, Empathic Adjustment—An Alternative to Rules, Policies, and Politics, 58 University of Cincinnati Law Review 1161 (1990).
All systems are pathological. All reflect warped structure. All breed warped structure.
You misperceive the nature of "journalism," or mis-define it (if definition is your inclination). And you conflate, wrongly, Greenwald's journalism and his avowedly or quite apparently personal points of view.
I do not see Glenn [Greenwald] as a shining beacon of journalism. His coverage of the Brazilian trials and tribulations -as far as I remember-, always had this underlying assumption “after the bad actor [Lula, …] is removed, the next one will be much better, automatically” which to me is unfortunately close to deranged leftist do-gooderism.
I cringed each I voted for Trump. But each time, the alternative was hugely worse.
I cannot vote for Trump again for two reasons: Assange and Soleimani.
That sentence ought to be:
Every religions, even every personal moral code, even ever superego is psychopathology.
Every religion, even every personal moral code, even every superego is psychopathology.
The ‘long march through the institutions' may have been to some extent a bottom-up phenomenon but it was conducted by people who were organised, focused and highly motivated and they had a coherent plan to seize power. And they had leaders. And they always had some elite support.
I circle back to my mention of ‘march through the institutions.’
What happened there? It was a bottom-up approach too, but in that case with malicious intent. Sure, I never stated bottom-up is any guarantee for good outcome.
So it will take the same time -about a generation- to “fix” things again, in the optimal case.
There won’t be a ‘long march through the institutions’ in reverse because there are no conservative groups today with that kind of focus, motivation, organisation, leadership and coherent plans.
Correct.
Either such groups will form or the US will die, and in consequence almost all of the “West” -incapable of independent thought- with it.
Maybe Jordan B. Peterson and ‘his disciples’ can turn the ship around (I am one but too old.)
I see the highest survival probability in Russia and the Christian Orthodox church.
Russia yes.
I see the highest survival probability in Russia and the Christian Orthodox church.
Petersen's assertion lacks perspicacity. Professor Leonard R. Jaffee saw the matter clearly, fully, correctly:
The ‘Rule of Law’ is a system. As Jordan B. Peterson explains nicely, “every system is always partially tyrannical, and partly corrupt.”
Leonard R. Jaffee, Empathic Adjustment—An Alternative to Rules, Policies, and Politics, 58 University of Cincinnati Law Review 1161 (1990).
All systems are pathological. All reflect warped structure. All breed warped structure.
You misperceive the nature of "journalism," or mis-define it (if definition is your inclination). And you conflate, wrongly, Greenwald's journalism and his avowedly or quite apparently personal points of view.
I do not see Glenn [Greenwald] as a shining beacon of journalism. His coverage of the Brazilian trials and tribulations -as far as I remember-, always had this underlying assumption “after the bad actor [Lula, …] is removed, the next one will be much better, automatically” which to me is unfortunately close to deranged leftist do-gooderism.
I cringed each I voted for Trump. But each time, the alternative was hugely worse.
I cannot vote for Trump again for two reasons: Assange and Soleimani.
Wilhelm Reich, of all people.
I first read about him 18 months ago, and felt I’d surely never hear anyone else mention him again. Augusto Del Noce identified his works as an amalgam of Marx and Freud, driven to the extremes (“Orgasmotron.”)
But even more striking to me, Del Noce in his writings pointed out the “permissive society” as a purported good (along: more permissions => more freedom => more well-being [formerly “vitality”]), and separately but interlocking “limitlessness” [in every leftist policy proposal.]
It doesn’t take excessive perspicacity to figure out those both are DOA, as the entire (existential) human life is based on forgoing most immediate gratification, for higher values and/or future returns.
The way you write, it seems Dr. Jaffee -whom I never heard of- is stating “All systems are entirely pathological” as
every personal moral code […] is psychopathology.
which obviously then includes non-personal moral codes.
I don’t get it. How can you then be working in the field of Law?
Have you taken on a Gnostic viewpoint, such as Post-Modernists, Marxists, Puritans, and many Jews, among others.
(I don’t care what Greenwald writes about Bolsonaro nowadays. He ignored all signs that the Lula persecution was done by an even more corrupt judiciary [than Lula], and likely driven by foreign powers.)
Did you purposefully leave Russia out, from your list of Trump’s wrong treatment countries?
—
I feel You are truly lost.
If you ever find a spark of optimism (or in religious terms “hope”) in yourself, read
August Del Noce “The Crisis of Modernity”
Though I cannot be sure (because your comments are muddy and unbottomed), I expect you think I am "lost" because, you deduce, I agree with Professor Jaffee's propositions that
I feel You are truly lost.
If you ever find a spark of optimism (or in religious terms “hope”)....
Correct.
There won’t be a ‘long march through the institutions’ in reverse because there are no conservative groups today with that kind of focus, motivation, organisation, leadership and coherent plans.
I see the highest survival probability in Russia and the Christian Orthodox church.
Russia yes.
The Eastern European countries (Poland, Romania, etc) are doomed.
Hi Brett –
Thank you for your kind words.
I got started contacting you via email, however looking at
https://www.unz.com/author/brett-redmayne-titley/
I do not see an About section at the bottom (?)
Am I looking at the wrong spot, or are my tight browser settings (no cookie storage, ad-block, referer-block) hampering me here?
Good to see Edward finally accepting reality, only wonders me what took him so long.
But doesn’t the US cancel your citizenship if you deliberately take on another one? Whatever.
All the best for his forming family!
Like so much of the America that people remember from the 1950s, not anymore.In 1940 Congress drew up a list of actions which, if you did any of them, then the State Department could cancel your citizenship: foreign military service, foreign naturalization, foreign oath of allegiance, etc. In the 1960s the Supremes started striking items off the list (see e.g. Afroyim v. Rusk), and then in 1980 (Vance v. Terrazas) they invented the concept of "specific intent" to give up citizenship and said that State had to investigate every case and consider all the evidence: not just evidence that the person did one of those actions, but their whole mental attitude towards US citizenship.Back then, most Americans who'd moved abroad and applied to naturalize in another country (usually Canada or Australia) still thought loss of citizenship was automatic anyway. So even if State didn't investigate, they assumed they were no longer US citizens, and if they got a letter from State they didn't fight it. But enough sued the State Department that it started to cost them too much employee time, so in 1990 they quietly adopted the policy of refusing to investigate "specific intent", except when a person shows up at a consulate and demands an investigation of their own "specific intent". That effectively ended enforcement of any prohibition against dual citizenship.Replies: @another anon
But doesn’t the US cancel your citizenship if you deliberately take on another one?
Though I cannot be sure (because your comments are muddy and unbottomed), I expect you think I am "lost" because, you deduce, I agree with Professor Jaffee's propositions that
I feel You are truly lost.
If you ever find a spark of optimism (or in religious terms “hope”)....
If you don’t understand the contrasting in my
The way you write, it seems Dr. Jaffee is stating […]
you either have a poor grasp of the English language, or simply chose to take my comments “literally but not seriously” as Peter Thiel coined it so well.
Excuse me that I found it bad style to litter my comment with question marks, and you are unable to overcome that [for the ‘Gnostic’ sentence.]
I’m still not seeing the slightest indication in your comment that you personally see any [positive] way out of the situation which even you decry. Unless you show such, the classification of some type of Gnostic thinking by you, stands for the time being.
The same thing was also holding me off from possibly reading Dr. Jaffee, as I can find endless amounts of nihilism wrapped in utopian theories in other books already.
Your last paragraph then suddenly hints at the total opposite, but lacks any substance about what Dr. Jaffee found, much less which of such no one else had found before him or at least why he summarized other peoples’ findings in a truly outstanding way.
Now that’s just plain wrong.
Asian women in the US are on average much more conservative than (young) white women across the whole country.
The extreme ones you see because they draw the attention, are just the very few [Asian women] who want to get rich/famous/whatever by all means possible.
Most of them however still try to reach the same through hard work. That’s also why most Asians in the US are -surprising to me at first- against unfettered immigration because they know what types such an approach draws in.
Unfortunately for Trump, most Asians (here including men) don’t care enough about politics to make a well-researched vote, or vote at all.
Citation needed.
Asian women in the US are on average much more conservative than (young) white women across the whole country.
Trump is not yet Imperator Caesar Augustus […]
The American Augustus, Tiberius and most of all Caligula is still further on down the road.
LOL,
I do hope the collapse of the American Empire doesn’t take several centuries…
the Dems are terrified
Exactly my thought, two days ago. But I’d put it even simpler:
The Dems are (at least unconsciously) realizing things will get really bad now, when the moral US folks stop playing by the rules as well.
Not necessarily civil war bad although it’s a possibility, but still pretty bad.
Java is […] not sophisticated
Apple, to this day, recommends disabling JavaScript on Safari
Uh, I’m not a programmer but Java is to JavaScript what Outlook is to Outlook Express.
Well I don’t know about On-and-off Trump crony Roger Stone,
but On-and-off Trump crony Ted Rall’s blabberings are just numbingly contrived attempts at 85 D chess and therefore incredibly dull.
I can only state:
Ted, if you have a point, feel free to make it!
It’s not so much prejudice as experience. The stores in the US are chock-full of Chinese products (it’s hard to find anything else, and if you are lucky, it’s made in Vietnam, Korea, Philippines, Taiwan, etc., instead of big China), and at least 90% of them are poor quality. It is not necessarily what the owners order. Say, Chinese military aircraft engine works w/o major repairs ~40 h, whereas Russian works ~ 400 h. When I was in China, I saw their big trucks that look exactly like Volvo or Mac trucks. However, when they go uphill, their speed becomes 10-20 mph, showing that their engines are crap.
We fall in to these easy prejudices at our own peril.
You’re still making projections solely from a recent snapshot.
A lot of the killer-quality household goods which I own and will use for the rest of my life, were made in China in the early 2000s.
If the Chinese stuff sold nowadays in the US is mostly flimsy, it’s not because they can’t produce better, but because the overwhelming majority of shoppers in the US won’t (or can’t) pay for higher quality anymore.
As an unconditional bet, this is silly. Your bet ignores an elephant in the room. I have two predictions.
In an unlikely scenario (5% probability) that the Ponzi scheme of the US dollar and US treasuries still stands, Chinese GDP would be about 2-3 times greater than the US GDP in absolute terms, and maybe 4-6 times greater by PPP.
In a more likely scenario (95% probability) that this Ponzi scheme crashes within the next 5-10 years, Chinese GDP will be about 10 times greater in both absolute numbers and by PPP. The reason for that is simple. The US spends a lot more than it has. So, it is 100% dependent on the US dollar remaining reserve currency, so that the US can print paper others accept as money. China has the economy producing real things (of poor quality), whereas most of the US GDP is “financial services” and other kinds of creative accounting, with real economy limited to trucking (distributing Chinese crap), bars, restaurants, hotels, and brothels, all of which will go way down when the Ponzi scheme tanks.
While I agree with your overall sentiment, its a misnomer that China produces poor quality goods. The reality is that Chinese factories manufacture to the standard contracted for by their customers in the west. For instance, there are factories in China happily churning out $900 iPhones for Apple to the most rigorous of standards, while right next door there a factories nailing together $10 generic smartphones.
China has the economy producing real things (of poor quality)
The US dollar tanking will make the US a cheaper tourist destination, so I wouldn't bet on these particular things tanking.Investment banking, management consulting, defense contracting, lawyering, and heath care are the sorts of things I would bet on tanking.Replies: @Astuteobservor II
bars, restaurants, hotels, and brothels, all of which will go way down when the Ponzi scheme tanks.
Nice to see someone is able to think outside the box, or in this case outside of Anatoly’s quick-sketched frame of reference!
Except for the “of [generally] poor quality” part, I fully agree with AnonFromTN.
Plus there will very likely be no more IMF in 2050, nor a direct successor.
And to the jokers here talking about [Chinese] age pyramid structure problems: yeah, just look at the large scale social unrest over the last few years in Japan!
The age pyramid is almost meaningless (especially when outright ignoring highly-skilled to lowly-skilled [immigrant] ratios) as what matters much, much more is social cohesion!
And there the US (and all the West) is once again in a much worse position than China, or most Asian (Confucius influenced?) countries.
In summary, Thulean Friend can almost give Anatoly the prize today, as the only conceivable scenario where he “wins” is one where most of us, and probably them, won’t be alive in 2050 anymore.
Mr. Rall is only here because Mr. Unz felt compelled to replace Tom Engelhardt with another lightweight, NPRoggy columnist. A complement to the “Conservatives” like Pat Buchanan and Michelle Malkin, he fusses around an edge or two of, but still reinforces, Establishment narratives.
If UR has to have a cartoonist
Going back decades, cartoonists of all political outlooks were always interested in Trump, and were much more realistic about his prospects of becoming president and what he would do in the White House than political analysts were. The UR needs Biden’s Scott Adams, and it’s got him in Rall.
Biden in the White House is going to be no one’s puppet, he has the power to have his ideas put into practice, even though some of the ideas will be completely ‘off’ none will dare say that mere months after being given one of the most coveted appointments in the country by a new President. Reagan did some things at the summit with Gorby that horrified White House advisors. We need to get past this idea that only conspiracies have agency.
Trump was outrageous in what he said, but in general he did not fully use the power that was available to him. Biden is an old man in a hurry and while his utterances will be bland, hemis likely to be far less wary about taking action. Rall is right, anything could happen with Biden.
Yet, earlier, in *1, you say:
Biden in the White House is going to be no one’s puppet, he has the power to have his ideas put into practice, even though some of the ideas will be completely ‘off’ none will dare say that mere months after being given one of the most coveted appointments in the country by a new President.
Biden is an old man in a hurry...
The logical contradictions in your statements are there for all to see. You can't deny it. The statements are barely 12 hours apart. Are there 2 guys who use the Sean moniker, taking turn about - one sensible, one not? Or is there some medical reason?
Last weeks post about introducing his granddaughter as his son (amongst other things in the incident) has converted me to the idea he is mentally fading fast.
Thank you!
An additional link about immunity from lawsuits, from the HHS:
https://www.phe.gov/Preparedness/legal/prepact/Pages/COVID19.aspx
Absolutely shameful how the author takes the deep wisdom of Fromm (and by extension Augusto Del Noce) only to trample it with Globull Warming bullshiff. Or maybe it’s even a deliberate act, to smear and destroy that wisdom.
You can draw a straight line from “Silent Spring” over “Globull Warming” to “Corona Lockdowns”, and every time perfectism has lead to ignoring all side-effects of the proposed ‘solutions’ (millions of excess Malaria deaths; trillions wasted for mostly useless electric boondoggles; or destroying the economy and the structure of society to save the last nursing home inhabitant, even after the overall low danger of COVID became apparent.)
Talk about insanity, indeed.
Liar or retard. I think both.
Millions of Malaria deaths -mostly children- definitely occur every year (and relatively quick),
while millions of potential cancer deaths were presumably prevented – according to which scientific source(s) exactly?
Plus the world has tried to come up with any as good approach to reducing/eradicating Malaria for the last 50 years, and has gotten nowhere.
And by the way, are you aware that there was Malaria in Southern US states, and it was eradicated by using DDT in the early 60’s?
And you, as most other retards, are trying to turn the argument into a black-or-white question: “no DDT or soak everything in it”
where the correct question would be “how much can we reduce use of DDT, while still having the immensely positve Malaria suppression effect?”
At first I found the article detailed and interesting, that Israel seems to have the same societal implosion problems as the US – I wasn’t aware.
But then coming across
In the US […] stop bothering with the Jews and Israel; they have nuisance value, but nothing more.
my B.S. meter red-lined.
And now I’m not sure anything Shamir wrote here has unbiased, honest truth in it.
https://stream.org/i-know-sidney-powell-she-is-telling-the-truth/
I Know Sidney Powell. She Is Telling the Truth
Fervent endorsement, and fascinating background to Sidney Powell.||culture-society||
Sorry if it sounded so, but I wasn’t indicating that every single word Fromm wrote was true. I came across Fromm from another author’s mention.
Augusto Del Noce wrote:
According to Fromm, in the second half of our [20th] century the authoritarian-obsessive- hoarding character, which appeared for the first time in the sixteenth century, was replaced by what he calls marketing character. Thereby, a true revolution took place but within the bourgeoisie (it was a transposition of the revolution into the bourgeoisie, so to speak. We can say, in words he does not use, that this transposition defines what today is called “radical society”). By “marketing character” he intends to indicate a phenomenon based on the experience of oneself as a commodity, and of one’s value not as “value of use” but as “value of exchange.” A living being becomes a commodity on display in the “personality market.” Value is established in the same way in the personality market and in the commodity market. What is on sale in the first market are personalities, in the second commodities. Thus, we reach the highest degree of reification; the reduction of people to objects becomes universal. Indeed, if the concerns of an individual center on being as desirable as possible, he will give up his I. In fact, we cannot even speak of the I as an unchangeable reality, because it must be constantly changed according to the principle of desirability. Making reification universal is clearly the same as denying ethics altogether and elevating the economic dimension to an absolute. From this perspective, efficiency becomes the only value. But this is not enough: total reification due to the marketing character coincides with the most extreme greed for things (and for other people reduced to things). Therefore, violence is absolutely dominant.
(Bold and italic mine.)
Trump’s demeanor during these crucial days
It always amazes me how someone so detail-interested can let his preconceptions get the better of him, on a small detail.
Obviously Trump is doing it exactly right here, to not let anybody seriously accuse him of unduly influencing judges etc., after he wins the legal battle.
You idiot. You seem to think nothing in the world exists except for the USA.
European countries, certain Indian states, Cuba, Venezuela, Bolivia, etc., function just fine employing socialism to better people’s lives. The people who live in these places like this. They don’t want it to stop. They want more of it.
That government-bashing is simple-minded 80s boilerplate. It don’t wash no more. I figure, if you drag out those hoary decrepit old chestnuts without a smidgeon of originality, and dare to present them as if they are real actual thoughts that an intelligent person might think, you are just a troll.
the 2020 election is not a sporting event or academic paper, therefore evidence that instances of fraud occurred will likely not be enough for the litigation to change the outcome
Interesting statement.
Max: What would be enough to change the outcome of an election in the US, in your opinion?
Would the word “widespread” (looked at per State) make a difference?
Giuliani has exposed the steal in one way, showing that 700,000 more mail-in ballots were counted in Pennsylvania than were mailed out.
What would be enough to change the outcome of an election in the US
Anomalies in Vote Counts and Their Effects on Election 2020
This is to say, the believability of these updates relies on the premise that the one or two most Biden-favoring parts of the state [Michigan] (perhaps by ballot type) were counted entirely in these two batches…. it is extremely surprising that we do not see smaller vote updates with mail-in votes which favor Biden more heavily
Replies: @Mikael_
As we can see, all four of the vote updates in question (the two red points, the green points well above this line, and the farther-up yellow point), are well above even this line. Indeed, the least extreme of these points, represented by the lower red dot which is above the 99.5th percentile curve, is the 7th most co-extreme point out of all 8,954 vote updates, and represents the 99.92nd percentile.
Giuliani has exposed the steal in one way, showing that 700,000 more mail-in ballots were counted in Pennsylvania than were mailed out.
What would be enough to change the outcome of an election in the US
Anomalies in Vote Counts and Their Effects on Election 2020
This is to say, the believability of these updates relies on the premise that the one or two most Biden-favoring parts of the state [Michigan] (perhaps by ballot type) were counted entirely in these two batches…. it is extremely surprising that we do not see smaller vote updates with mail-in votes which favor Biden more heavily
Replies: @Mikael_
As we can see, all four of the vote updates in question (the two red points, the green points well above this line, and the farther-up yellow point), are well above even this line. Indeed, the least extreme of these points, represented by the lower red dot which is above the 99.5th percentile curve, is the 7th most co-extreme point out of all 8,954 vote updates, and represents the 99.92nd percentile.
It was a rhetoric question towards Max [Parry.]
Thank you Brett. Not just for the excellent summary of ongoing challenges, but even more for being the sole author on UNZ holding up the flag of constitutionality on this issue!!
What I now wonder is: beyond tossing out the whole result per state (meaning no candidate gets that state’s electoral votes), do there exist also options for the Supreme Court to invalidate all mail-in ballots instead (because of the unconstitutional mail-in ballot legislation, plus there is no possibility to discern which mail-in ballots did comply with original valid legislation), and count the remainder of in-person votes as the result, potentially flipping the result?
By gut feeling I wouldn’t expect so, but legal analysis would be appreciated!
Addendum:
according to a quick internet search, Wisconsin has to certify its election result on Tuesday, 12/1.
Ever since the suspicious switch in the swing states from heavy Trump majorities to a media-declared Biden win; I have been following the flow of events very closely. Before adding my take on the article and its powerful purport, I must give kudos to Mr Redmayne-Titley and also my thanks for an amazing piece de resistance of legal research and reportorial acumen.
Key to the essayist’s analysis is this sentence: “IT DOES SEEM EVIDENT, INDEED, THAT THIS WAS ALL BY DESIGN”. The plandemic was the foundation for fraud by mostly Democrat prostiticians, aided and abetted by the mass media, social media and secretive dirty-work by the Deep $tate departments, bureaus and agencies, most particularly the central control mechanism on behalf of the bankster agenda, the CIA.
Riots all over Western Europe against the lockdowns, demonstrations by pissed-off Trump supporters and plain ordinary American citizens against an evidentially stolen election constituting a so-far mostly peaceful uprising; are signals by those who have caught on to the falsity of the Covid crisis. Though millions of the media-mesmerized masses, probably some 60 million of them, hypnotized and befuddled by control over the message by the plotters and schemers, did vote for the Harris-Biden ticket. At the same time well over 70 million voters cast their ballots for the sitting president.
Without doubt, this situation as so well delineated by the essayist is the most profound Constitutional crisis since at least the era of America’s Civil War. Faked (s)elections are a tool of the elite against the public. Lincoln’s timeless description of republican governance during his Gettysburg Address was dutifully addressed by the Pennsylvania Republican Senate majority by holding their hearing at the scene of that hallowed ground: “…that government of the people, by the people and for the people should not perish from this earth”. Or to quote the great spokesman for the original American Revolution which ultimately created this republic, Thomas Paine: “…these are the times that try men’s souls”.
Redmayne-Titley correctly pointed out that ultimately this matter will come before the Supreme Court of the United States. There will be fallout. The US District Court Judge from Georgia,.Obaminable’s appointee Eleanor Ross got her tits caught in a wringer by “overlooking” Article II, Section 1, Clause 2 of the United States Constitution. Perhaps the jurist should be sentenced to a Constitutional law remediation course by the greatest living constitutional scholar, Dr. John Whitehead. She may face more rigorous treatment, though, by being disbarred.
Another candidate for tits in a wringer, as cited by the essayist, is Michigan’s secretary of State Jocelyn Benson, who, ex-cathedra, voided Michigan’s legal requirement for a voter’s signature to cast a mail-in ballot. Redmayne-Titley notes that by doing so, Benson effectually created a new law, a power only granted to the legislature of that state. We are getting quite warm now in proving out that her action, like that of the District judge in Georgia and the authors and primary supporters of Pennsylvania’s new enabling act for mail-in ballots, which in itself violated that state’s standing laws ,points clearly towards a massive designed conspiracy, hinging on the planned plandemic crisis.
Testimonies by witnesses to Wisconsin’s Electoral Commission instructing election workers to add missing addresses to mail-in votes will also likely appear before courts of law…with the entire nation closely following the results. It does seem to be quite clear that in so doing, the commissioners violated Wisconsin Statute 6.86.
Though the essayist cited it quite briefly, the whole matter of the number of states using the Dominion voting machine system, falls to the ultimate Trump-card. Dominion is run out of Spedina Street in Toronto, Ontario, CANADA. Systems for these machines were tabulating in centers located in Spain and in Frankfurt, Germany. In the latter site, the CIA itself appears to be complicit.
Oh yes, that TRUMP-CARD: Back in 2018 the president issued an executive order regarding foreign interference in American elections. There are some teeth in that EO. Dominion, curiously, leads us back to where the bankster cabal is headquartered, City of London. The Dominion of Canada as well as those of Australia and New Zealand all are ruled ultimately by their Governors General, who is appointed by and answers to the Quean herself. Dominion, domain, domination, dome-in-nation, damnation. They all seem to chime together, do they not?
President Trump also covered his flanks against the WarDefense industry top generals and admirals in the Pentagram by naming a new Secretary of Defense and his primary Deputy. He also directed that all US special forces units are directly under their command rather than to the chains of command by the brassnosed honchos in Arlington.
We do live in interesting times. As Stickman pointed out some years back, “when machine count the votes, voters’ votes don’t count”. Those who have been closely following the election afterbirth are not likely to count out Donald J. Trump.
Spedina should be Spadina. Street should be Avenue, according to Canada's National Post. (there being a Spadina Road as well.)Sorry to harp on such picky details but it's significant enough to come up again. Otherwise great comment.Replies: @Majority of One
Dominion is run out of Spedina Street in Toronto, Ontario, CANADA.
It was the South that voted to remove themselves from the union in accordance with the understanding of state sovereignty at the time. Lincoln acted contrary to the sappy words he uttered at Gettysburg in his illegal war to suppress the desires of the voters in the south by using armed force, (to save crony capitalism). Movies are rather crappy history, but this scene is close to capturing the issue of secession and showing Lincoln for what he was, a tyrant who likely stole the 1864 election.
Lincoln’s timeless description of republican governance during his Gettysburg Address was dutifully addressed by the Pennsylvania Republican Senate majority by holding their hearing at the scene of that hallowed ground: “…that government of the people, by the people and for the people should not perish from this earth”.
Dominion, curiously, leads us back to where the bankster cabal is headquartered, City of London. The Dominion of Canada as well as those of Australia and New Zealand all are ruled ultimately by their Governors General, who is appointed by and answers to the Quean herself. Dominion, domain, domination, dome-in-nation, damnation. They all seem to chime together, do they not?
Sat night, PA Supreme Court over-ruled Judge McCullough’s decision. PA election certification may proceed. I’ll bet the PA GOP state legislators are peeved.
In other words, they didn't rule on the substantive issues but on a technicality.
"Upon consideration of the parties’ filings in Commonwealth Court, we hereby dismiss the petition for review with prejudice based upon Petitioners’ failure to file their facial constitutional challenge in a timely manner," the order read.
The PA Supreme Court is well known for its bias against The Rule of Law. Their attempt to embrace fraud-by-mail was highly predictable.
PA Supreme Court over-ruled Judge McCullough’s decision. PA election certification may proceed.
The key swing states impacted by ballot fraud have Republican Legislatures. You can see the alignment for every state here (2).
“The Pennsylvania House of Representatives has the duty to ensure that no citizen of this Commonwealth is disenfranchised, to insist that all elections are conducted according to the law, and to satisfy the general public that every legal vote is counted accurately.”
Pennsylvania State Sen. Doug Mastriano, a Republican, said Friday that the GOP-controlled state legislature will make a bid to reclaim its power to appoint the state’s electors to the Electoral College, saying they could start the process on Nov. 30.
“So, we’re gonna do a resolution between the House and Senate, hopefully today,” he told Steve Bannon’s War Room on Friday. “I’ve spent two hours online trying to coordinate this with my colleagues. And there’s a lot of good people working this here. Saying, that the resolution saying we’re going to take our power back. We’re gonna seat the electors.
As this power is directly enumerated by The U.S. Constitution, there is no way for state executive or state judicial bodies to intervene.
Clause 2. Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress; but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office
We are living in gumbic times.
https://spectator.us/reasons-why-the-2020-presidential-election-is-deeply-puzzling/
Now, the below can’t possibly be true.
Your otherwise good argument suffers a little from your own inability to clearly explain what communism is, in your understanding, and why today’s CCP is still factually communist.
Sidney Powell makes me think of Orly Taitz. I wonder if the same outfit in Mossad is responsible for digging her up as a double edge sword whose ultimate objective is to compromise everybody who associates with her.
Nothing will come from Powell’s lawsuits.
Do not fall for this false hope.
Harris/Biden will be President. There is no Judge or State Legislature who will go against the entire Establishment/Big Tech/Wall Street.
Obama blessed over $2 TRILLION dollars of our money bailing out Wall Street without one indictment. Think about that.
How is that relevant? Obama is all over the media lately, and it’s not just to hawk his narcissistic, rambling 2nd autobiography.
Obama is back on the scene to make sure Trump is steam rolled and Wall Street is pleased. When Obama talks, the media drops to their knees. ((They)) pulled out the biggest gun they have to insure the Election Result sticks.
Look at Biden’s cabinet picks. All Deep State/Swamp things: John Kerry? Yellin?
These articles about the election fraud (which happened more likely than not) are just theoretical exercises. Band aids for a gut wound with a machete. No deus ex machina is coming to save the day.
The deus ex machina that could save the day is Russian or Chinese missiles.Replies: @TKK
No deus ex machina is coming to save the day.
According to one poll something like 30% of Democraps believe the election was rigged. If there are any Donks left with half a functional brain, they already know they're dead in the water with #beijingbiden and #fakenggaharris. Trump-hatred is the only thing keeping the illusion of shitlib unity afloat, if they sacrifice that for a losing candidate backed by an even bigger loser they're done for.The Democrap/Deep Shit's lust for power is astonishing even to those of us who know better. A clear Trump victory now only means/meant, at best, 4 more years to prepare for war. Retardicucks are finished as of 2024 since Orange-Tweety Ego-Golfer-Kushner-Dupe did zip to stop the ongoing demographic terrorism.Had fkface biden won Florida I'd be more inclined to believe it was an honest win. The lack of Donks doing all they can to prove there was no fraud is proof enough they're full of shit. War it is.Replies: @obvious
Do not fall for this false hope.
What you’re actually trying to say is “There will be not a single principled judge who will follow his conscience.”
Hilarious!
(If there will be enough principled judges is not clear. It’s clearly an uphill battle for Trump and supporting lawyers. Which however is no reason at all to concede the fight.)
Okayyy.
Extrapolation sans limite.
And you come to UNZ to read doom porn and share your nihilism / spread the misery around
…or why exactly?
First, thanks to Tony Hall for this article, which touches on important aspects of the underlying reasons for the election situation – and the state of the United States.
The brazen and obviously highly planned and coordinated attempt to steal this election has engaged, and focused the attention of, and spurred outrage and concern among, tens of millions of Americans.
The ‘election hearings’ in various States that I’ve managed to look in on have featured poignant election fraud exposés, with many concerned citizens with backbone presenting many devastating revelations.
Here once again much mass media is complicit in either not giving fair and adequate coverage, or in ignoring, censoring or purveying disinformation about the proceedings. This too is being noticed by millions.
But a widespread public ‘awakening’ is a necessary prelude, within a milieu in which political corruption and dysfunction have gained the upper hand, to the renovations necessary to achieving a preponderance of political – in the broadest sense of that term – virtue.
So the brazen nature of the attempted usurpation of political power through fraud, crime, pernicious manipulation, and lies, among other evils, can be seen as a great gift to the ‘salt of earth’ public by corrupt power .
Had the attempted steal been more subtle, more nuanced, its chances of smoother success would have increased.
Another aspect of the current situation is the degree to which good people in positions of authority have joined with the ‘deplorables’ in being shaken and woken up. The “swamp” – aka the cesspool – has had a sufficient spotlight shone upon it to reveal it as wider, and deeper, and more heavily populated, and more foul, than many, including good people in official positions, had previously appreciated.
From the article:
They [“most news agencies”] assume that they can help along an historic instance of election tampering without being held legally accountable for the crimes in which they are deeply complicit.
Things are getting really interesting as awareness grows that this was not just yet another instance of typical marginal and inevitable election shenanigans, but a well organized, deeply planned, and widely supported, attempted coup. And the attempted coup is attempting to place into the Presidency an irredeemably corrupt and demented man. And furthermore, that President Trump in actuality had received an unprecedented outpouring of citizen support in the form of legitimate votes across the United States.
The active or passive support for the attempted coup by the CIA, the FBI, the DOJ and large swathes of the federal and state political elite in the United States is now starkly revealed.
The question of military loyalty, and the loyalty of police forces and national guards, becomes a critical question.
As Tony Hall has also pointed out, the situation in the United States takes place within the context of a global – in effect – coup d’etat attempt, whereby a non-existent or marginal pandemic is declared a terribly dangerous all enveloping pandemic, and normal human and civil rights in many countries are suspended.
It is illustrative of the wide reach of the planning for the ‘great reset’ – whatever madness and banality and horror are the eventual components – that here in a small community in rural Canada the iron curtain of propaganda in support of the scamdemic and against Trump, and the curtailment of counter-information, has been obvious.
I think Sidney Powell should have a statue on Mt Rushmore if she pulls this off. RINOS are equally as bad as the commie paert, formerly known as the Democrats. JFK and Truman would be disgusted by todays D party. Hubert Humphrey would be disgusted by them.
Unz puts all of the corruption of the current US ruling class in one long compilation, so that he won’t have to risk angering his pals at Facebook beyond today. It’s the classic corporate strategy of piling all the bad news that they can find from years forward and years backward into a quarterly earnings report. It’s standard accounting practice that Unz knows very well as a tool of Wall Street.
Now you anti-Semites can begin your mindless attribution of all the corruption to Israel or Zionists or Barbara Streisand, guilty of some things, no doubt, but there’s plenty to go around. A true accounting would certainly include my girl-men fellow Catholics, the corrupt Protestant World and lots of atheists. Probably not many Muslims, however.
Likely the most confused article I have ever read from Pepe Escobar.
Chinese shehui xinyong (and by extension Mao) good, Silicon Valley digital fiefdoms bad.
That’s your deep-level analysis?
Things are getting really interesting as awareness grows that this was not just yet another instance of typical marginal and inevitable election shenanigans, but a well organized, deeply planned, and widely supported, attempted coup. And the attempted coup is attempting to place into the Presidency an irredeemably corrupt and demented man. And furthermore, that President Trump in actuality had received an unprecedented outpouring of citizen support in the form of legitimate votes across the United States.
They ["most news agencies"] assume that they can help along an historic instance of election tampering without being held legally accountable for the crimes in which they are deeply complicit.
Thanks Robert Snefjella. As I worked on the essay in recent days I felt one of the most significant and underreported topics in what I discovered was how the COVID-19 media-induced hysteria has been so essential in setting up the United States for wholesale rigging of this presidential election. The same media screaming the loudest about supposed “spikes” in “cases” (based on a PCR testing procedure that is totally ineffective) are the same venues saying, don’t you dare look into the claims of the crazy people who are claiming election fraud has taken place on a massive scale.
I find important the line of analysis being pursued by Phill Kline who calls attention to the fact that Zuckerberg forked over $400,000,000 million to enforce and exploit all the COVID relaxations and eliminations of old rules designed by wise people to protect election integrity. Who is Zuckerberg really and who does he work for? Who actually created Facebook and for what ends? Who and what does Facebook serve now? Why are Facebook and Google not subject to anti-trust interventions in order to restore the principle that the Internet is a public resource not subject to private ownership and control.
Anyway, the nefarious way the COVID-19 con is being worked by the usual suspects who control the “news” should be subject to major skepticism and scrutiny right now.. Like so many other areas of this massive scandal, the political applications of the COVID scam to election rigging should already be subject to investigation by the “criminal justice system.” I appreciate seeing the attention you have brought to this subject with your comment Robert Snefjella.
In my view, all news reporters using the hackneyed, non-sensical “conspiracy theory” meme as a short form command that one should not pay attention– that one should look the other way– call attention to the possibility that journalists in question are possibly knowing participants or inadvertent dupes in genuine conspiracies.
https://www.rt.com/usa/508402-trump-veto-ndaa-section-230/
Why are Facebook and Google not subject to anti-trust interventions in order to restore the principle that the Internet is a public resource not subject to private ownership and control.
When I was young, words such as 'the common good',' the public interest', 'public servants', public utilities', 'the country's armed forces', public lands, and so on were much used and broadly understood, and perhaps unwisely were assumed as permanent sensible aspects of a democratic polity.
Why are Facebook and Google not subject to anti-trust interventions in order to restore the principle that the Internet is a public resource not subject to private ownership and control.
Actually I strongly disagree with GeeBee.
It is difficult to make a concise counter argument to the flood of information bits he wrote.
As I understand it, Marx took Feuerbach and added some messianic part towards a “classless society” to it. While Marx was likely driven somewhat by envy, I believe his main goal was to undermine and destroy [Christian] religion.
Which brings me to the most obvious deficit in GeeBee’s comment: the absence of religion, or for atheistic-inclined people “commonly agreed-upon highest values” in his analysis, and even more important how those values get handed down to the next generation. That last point also being the worst overlooked aspect by Kant.
All that and much much more can be found in “The Crisis of Modernity” by Augusto Del Noce.
Hmm, the smell of overly righteous attitude in the evening… even wrapped in “intellectual honesty.”
now have developed a meta-political point of view
Well that’s telling, even more than ignoring my comment #133.
Not philosophical or meta-physical, but meta-political.
Politics, where there are no ultimate values, only to win by by any means necessary.
Enjoy your self-made hell.
(Which is what I believe @GeneralRipper was also trying to convey.)