Why not add the ending 50% citizenship (dual citizenship) to birthright citizenship and E-verify?

It is baizuo, not baizou.

In the early 1980s my wife and I were taking an afternoon stroll on a clear and cloudless day on a public footpath outside of Stuttgart, Germany when a silver colored, cigar shaped object flew into our line of sight and hovered long enough for us to discuss what it might be. Since the object was in the proximity of the Stuttgart Airport landing pattern we assumed it was some experimental aircraft. It had no markings or windows or wings. Suddenly it accelerated toward the heavens until it vanished as a dot in the sky. It made no noise and there was no vapor trail. We checked the local news upon returning home and there was no mention of it. So much for being picked up by radar.

Naturally, like pilots with similar sightings, we did not rush to dine out on the experience and shared the story with very few over the years.

Your guess is as good as mine as to what it was, what it was up to, and why. What it definitely was not was a jointly shared hallucination.

Thanks for a very informative article! I am generally positive with regard to China, but I do see one major deficiency which is not generally mentioned. Maybe it is not mentioned because it is assumed to be obvious but I think it is important to mention and that it colors many things about China. That thing is that China has a one party government. This means that information and facts coming from the Chinese are likely to be unreliable. More importantly, China is actually held back, in economics and development and education, by a one party rule. That president Xi wants a legacy as important as Mao’s legacy is a bad sign because a one party system will allow him much lee way for his approach. A leader wanting a big legacy is CORRUPTION, not of money, but of spirit. I hope that the Chinese government will see that any leader building a legacy is a major corruption issue, and will cost the people money and resources.

I posted my view of the one party system and of Xi wanting a huge legacy. Yet, I am generally positive about China. I find the loose talk of China stealing this and that technology not convincing. The official US government accusations may be even more exaggerated! Here is a short paper that explored this area,

MASS DISINFORMATION IN THE TRADE WAR LEADS TO A GUILTY WITHOUT EVIDENCE TREND by Manuel Lee

Summary: Most people in this country (the United States) believe that China “stole us blind” for decades. Is there a lot of truth to this belief or is there just a little bit of truth? This short paper researches this topic, lays out the US government accusations, and displays the facts and evidences related to the accusations…………………….

As the title of this article indicates, the subject is not limited to China, but is related to the whole world and to the direction of justice in the world. Many people who read this article will be shocked by the vast discrepancy between the actual facts and the purported facts given out by the US government.

The link to this succinct paper can be found here,

https://silkscreen9.blogspot.com/2020/09/new-blog.html

Is this a joke, or a sad example of lifelong brainwashing?

I am libertarian more than anything else. As such, I am negative on one party rule, or two party rule. But one party rule oppresses the individual the most. If one party rule worked in China, ok, but for long term stability, I believe that China needs to allow for more breathing room. I am sure that you, or anyone else, had at one time, wanted to look up a certain topic on the internet, in order to make an informed decision. In China one does not have the luxury of looking up Google Scholar, for example. A loss for Chinese researchers.

every bookstore I visited had a little altar devoted to Xi with his recent publications … hard to take such country seriously.

I feel the same, almost the same. You have to be careful. I think most Chinese are smarter than that, and just put up with with Xi’s books and picture sitting around, just to run the business smoothly without trouble from the authorities.

4) the science and technology that has prospered China has primarily been STOLEN from American/Canadian companies and universities

You are just regurgitating another American myth. Check out this link,

MASS DISINFORMATION IN THE TRADE WAR LEADS TO A GUILTY WITHOUT EVIDENCE TREND by Manuel Lee

https://silkscreen9.blogspot.com/2020/09/new-blog.html

8) Confuscism is no way equivalent to the revealed Word of God…salvations is ONLY acheived through accepting Christ as personal lord and saviour…

I respect your belief system. I have studied Eastern philosophy and , to a smaller extend, studied Western religions including Christianity. I can state with near certainty that the Bible, both the Old Testament and the New Testament, are written 99% by MEN, I repeat, by MEN. Years, decades and even centuries pass, and scribes and writers recount the tales from the sages, the rabbis, and the Apostles. Perhaps a few of the writers were inspired by God, but the vast majority were common men like you and me. The writers of the New Testament supposedly never ever met the Apostles. The early Church Fathers held councils to determine the official creed. Needless to say, the Church placed themselves as the connection to God, and the average person will then need the Church for salvation. In reality, the Church promoted themselves to this position, knowing that the scribes were common men, like themselves. Those people who do not contribute money to the Church or who don’t submit to the power of the Church were punished severely.

On the other hand Eastern Philosophy is more or less based on observations on nature, on observations on human nature, and on philosophy. It is more evidence based and more humanistic and more tolerant. In general, a better recipe for life than Western Religions. Eastern Philosophy does not define God, that God is impossible to define, but still allow one to live in the world respecting all living things. In the Western Religion God is some great all knowing being in the sky that must be obeyed by following the rules of the Church. You may buy that but I prefer a more philosophical approach to life.

Libertarian is the facade of the ‘god-fearing’ morally defunct evil ‘Puritan’ cult

You are projecting what I said! I said that I come closer to libertarian than other beliefs. I am far from a cultist. Read my reply to Col Dolma on religion. I mostly subscribe to Eastern Philosophy. Does that sound like I am some cultist??? FYI, I am libertarian in that I don’t like government control over people’s lives.

Chinese can access Western information

I don’t believe that people in China can just access Facebook, Google, etc on demand. They normally have to use a VPN and they can get in trouble for doing that!

unlike the West which blocks their people’s view about China and the rest of the world with thick-weaved anti-China propaganda and national security fake news

But that is not the point!!!!! People in the West, such as Ron Unz, have to wade through lots of propaganda to get at the truth. Yes, it takes effort, but I still like that better than in China where most Western websites are off limits.

The general transfer of technology from the West to China is not a myth

No one is saying that. The link is saying that technology transfer was more or less transferred from American company to Chinese company willingly. The link refutes the charge that the majority of tech transfer was from theft or from hacking.

Many people dislike China for taking over the world by cheap goods. They get back at China by claiming that China stole their technology from the West and from America in particular. This link refutes these charges:

MASS DISINFORMATION IN THE TRADE WAR LEADS TO A GUILTY WITHOUT EVIDENCE TREND by Manuel Lee

https://silkscreen9.blogspot.com/2020/09/new-blog.html

Yet, I can understand people’s frustration. It is like Amazon, its operation, though legal, destroyed hundreds of thousands of brick and mortar stores across the country. But the more the US fights back unfairly, the more it hurts the US.

This link refutes your charges:

MASS DISINFORMATION IN THE TRADE WAR LEADS TO A GUILTY WITHOUT EVIDENCE TREND by Manuel Lee

https://silkscreen9.blogspot.com/2020/09/new-blog.html

Can your observations be extrapolated to explain why unlike Europe, China did not have an Industrial Revolution?

Liked your explanation to Littlereddot. However, here is a more general view. I have studied Eastern Philosophy as well as Western Religions. I admire Eastern Philosophy but I found that Western religion is more or less a dishonest way to hook people on reliance on the Church. The vast number of the writers of the Bible (both The OT, and The NT) were simply MEN. Maybe a few were inspired by God, but not the vast majority. The early Church leaders were also MEN, like you and me. . Needless to say, the Church placed themselves as the connection to God, and the average person will then need the Church for salvation. That’s how the Church got so powerful. People feared Eternal Damnation if they dared to question the Church.

On the other hand Eastern Philosophy is more or less base on observations on nature, observations on human nature, and on philosophy. It is more evidence based and more humanistic and more tolerant. In general, a better recipe for life than Western Religions. Eastern Philosophy does not define God, that God is impossible to define, but still allow one to live in the world respecting all living things.

The general principle is that a system based on lies and deception will eventual fail, even if it takes a thousand years, it will fail. Eastern Philosophy is not based on lies and will survive the centuries. Seemingly China and India abandon their heritage for Western materialism, but only temporary and they will get back on track!

So, Greece was the bridge to spread ancient Egyptian wisdom to Rome, and the Arabs were the bridge to spread Greek, Middle Eastern, and Far Eastern wisdom to Europe. In a similar way, the West is the bridge to bring modern technology to the East, especially China. Many Westerners resent the transfer of technology to China. But due to the dishonest religions of the West and the more sincere ideas of Eastern Philosophy, the transfer of knowledge was already written in the stars.

The Abrahamic religions, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, are prima facie preposterous hoaxes that can’t be taken seriously for even a minute by a rational person.

Could not agree more! Here is my take on the debate on why science and technology developed in the West:

Here is a more general view. The societies of the Middle East, India, and the Far East have generally been more urbanized than Europe from the remote past to around 1500. These urban dwellers fight and back stab each other for millennia and caused a lot of karma. The Europeans had somewhat less karma, and armed with knowledge brought by the Arabs, were able to advance through developments in science and technology.

I have studied Eastern Philosophy as well as Western Religions. I admire Eastern Philosophy but I found that Western religion is more or less a dishonest way to hook people on reliance on the Church. The vast number of the writers of the Bible (both The OT, and The NT) were simply MEN. Maybe a few were inspired by God, but not the vast majority. The early Church fathers were also MEN, like you and me. . Needless to say, the Church placed themselves as the connection to God, and the average person will then need the Church for salvation. That’s how the Church got so powerful. People feared Eternal Damnation if they dared to question the Church.

On the other hand Eastern Philosophy is more or less base on observations on nature, observations on human nature, and on philosophy. It is more evidence based and more humanistic and more tolerant. In general, a better recipe for life than Western Religions. Eastern Philosophy does not define God, that God is impossible to define, but still allow one to live in the world respecting all living things.

The general principle is that a system based on lies and deception will eventual fail, even if it takes a thousand years, it will fail. Eastern Philosophy is not based on lies and will survive the centuries. Seemingly China and India abandon their heritage for Western materialism, but only temporary and they will get back on track!

So, Greece was the bridge to spread ancient Egyptian wisdom to Rome, and the Arabs were the bridge to spread Greek, Middle Eastern, and Far Eastern wisdom to Europe. In a similar way, the West is the bridge to bring modern technology to the East, especially China. Many Westerners resent the transfer of technology to China. But due to the dishonest religions of the West and the more sincere ideas of Eastern Philosophy, the transfer of knowledge was already written in the stars.

You know very well that it is blocked but then say the opposite because you can use tricks to get around the block. Try being honest!

Google Scholar is a great resource for academic research, but it is blocked in China by the Great Firewall.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eS_ffyaWRE

Video Link

Our government has its reasons for labeling certain websites as illegal. The websites of those cults, those that spread anti-China and hate.

Is Goggle Scholar blocked because it spreads anti-China hate?????

When you mentioned cults, you probably mean FLG. Yes, I know the history. The FLG was a qi gong, meditation, and exercise group, and a patriotic group back in 1990!!!!! It got TOO BIG AND THE CPC FEARED IT. That was it. It was not spreading anti-China hate in any way. So can you explain? Of course, since China banned the FLG, it has become an enemy and is spreading anti-China propaganda. All China’s fault, totally. Agreed?

Thanks for the interesting video on Taoist magic. There is huge gulf between Eastern Philosophy and Western religion. It is the difference between civilization survival and civilization suicide! Western religion, is not based on sincerity but based on materialism. One goes to church, gives out money, and the church will give the one salvation. The early church fathers designed this system of giving out “salvation” in exchange for money and power, a totally corrupt system.

Confucianism and Buddhism are quite genuine, but Taoism is materialistic (praying, paying or working for some material benefit). Yet, Taoism is voluntary and is not forced on people. On the other hand, Christianity (and Islam and Judaism) is forced on the whole society and a person is punished for disobeying the church.

Bullshit. FLG was recruited by the CIA long ago, and its guru lives in luxury in New York City.

When did the CIA recruit FLG????? That was years AFTER China banned the sect! No one knows the exact date of recruitment, but when the guru moved to a big mansion, it was presumed that he was funded by the CIA.

So you will not touch on my original premise that it was all China’s fault and China’s paranoia that started the bad blood with the FLG. The FLG was one of many qi gong sects in China, but it was the biggest, close to the size of the Communist Party. That was its sin, for being too big. China could have handled the issue much better but it used paranoid methods.

Yes.

Google Scholar is a great resource for academic research, but it is blocked in China by the Great Firewall.

https://youtu.be/3eS_ffyaWRE
Video Link

Once upon a time, long, long time ago, that was the case. Christianity was a stabilizing organization in an unrewarding and dangerous world

Good history lesson, but my point is much deeper!!! Comparing Eastern Philosophy to Western religion is comparing a sincere idea to some human creation. Eastern Philosophy says that God cannot be known with our common senses. God cannot be even named (thus Lao Tzu’s saying, “The Tao that can be named is not the Tao”). Yet, in a very materialist fashion, the Church Fathers say, “give your donations, and you will be saved”. God is named “God”, Jesus is names “Jesus” and the system is a business transaction of money in exchange for opening the gate to a named heaven. In the long run, any faked system will fail. The Church Fathers are MEN but they made themselves out to be the right hand of God.

We use the campus network is able to log in to most academic related external network.

Ok you now admit that you use a special network to get around the government block, just as I thought. But why do you mock people who are just telling the truth, that Google Scholar is blocked in China??? Is this part of your public education, or is it part of our family training???

But the far, far, far more important topic relates to the FLG. The Chinese government attack on the FLG represents the China equivalent of WMD (Weapons of Mass Destruction) of the USA. The USA was exposed for its hypocrisy and lies with regard to WMDs. Similarly, China is exposed for its authoritarian nature by its ruthless persecution of the FLG.

I will state that I have no connection to the FLG and find its anti-China propaganda distasteful and probably funded by the CIA. That said, the FLG was a peaceful qi gong sect in China. It got very popular and soon its membership reached numbers like that of the Communist party. The government noticed its popularity and fearful of such a large organization. President Jiang Zemin ordered a sudden crack down in July 1999 in which tens of thousands of FLG leaders were arrested. The charges were ridiculous, including that it is an unregistered organization, that it is a superstition, that it is disturbing peace, that it is illegal and must be smashed, etc.

Millions of people resisted because either they were qi gong practitioners or FLG practitioners. Because of these resisters, China mobilized the whole country to arrest and persecute a peaceful qi gong sect!!! There are few instances in history that the resources of a huge country were directed at suppressing a peaceful sect that has never been political!!! The hapless citizens and police of China want no part in persecuting a peaceful sect, but because of the nature of the system, had to do the dirty job!!! China’s system need reform desperately!!! Perhaps Ron Unz can look into this aspect of China which shows that China is not all roses.

For the extreme China supporters, this topic is China’s equivalent of WMDs for the USA. Can you keep up pretenses with a straight face? Do you not agree that China needs reform desperately???

Qi Gong is just one of the rituals like many rituals the ‘god-fearing’ morally defunct evil ‘Puritan’ cult practised in churches, schools etc. to brainwash and indoctrinate people into sheeple and zombies to be enslaved and abused.

Before the persecution of the FLG, qi gong was viewed favorably in China because the qi gong energy does work and supplement the national health care system. After the persecution, China had to say some qi gong is superstition in order to maintain a bit of face.

FLG is minuscule compared to Christians and Muslims in China.

The number of FLG practitioners was around 90 million, about the same number as the Communist Party. After persecution, the numbers, of course, dwindled enormously.

FLG was banned because of its Mafia-style organized criminal activities, harvesting organs from its followers and violence on the street getting out of hand

RIDICULOUS!!!!!! FLG is/was a peaceful qi gong sect.

The USA sends anyone suspected of national security threats to Guantanamo Bay to be investigated via torture without proof,

True, and China does the same to FLG practitioners. Face it, China showed its dirty face and needs drastic reform to curb the blood thirst of its government!!!

It does not matter when the CIA recruited Li, but he’s a traitor

Ridiculous! You are inverting the whole situation! China channeled all its vast resources to persecute a peaceful qi gong sect!!! Once it made that fateful decision, there is no going back for either side. In China FLG dies, in the US China dies. ALL CHINA’S fault, due to its extreme paranoia and a system that cannot temper the paranoia and jealousy of its leader.

I have friends who are devout Buddhists. Some do group meditations and I have participated in such from time to time. These are normal folks.

FLG are a different kettle of fish altogether. Beware of them.

Fine, don’t get near them. If a group has weir people, that is no reason to persecute them, including the supposedly organ harvesting. The FLG saga totally exposed China as a backward country and a with backward political system.

So the difference between the East and West that you have observed, appears that way because you are comparing the high philosophy of the East with the low end of Western Religion-Philosophy continuum.

I agree somewhat. A bit of Eastern Philosophy permeates the whole society in Asia, which is good. In the West, Christianity and Judaism permeate the whole society. The latter 2 are like business transactions where I go to church, donate, and I get the possibility of entering heaven. In the West it is more like a business than in the East.

Maybe what I am saying is that Eastern Philosophy is really trying to get into the basic questions of life. In the West, even in high level philosophy, it is some striving to understand “God”. Just that question of understanding “God” is already wrong. Lao Tzu said, “The Tao that can be named is not the Tao”. So the Western philosophers ask the wrong questions, can’t get answers, and defers to the mass low level religion. In this way, the East even with fluff and nonsense, is better able to handle life than in the West.

1. China is backward country with a backward political system, people are repressed.
OR
2. China ain’t so bad. The people are happy, and 90% support their government.

The real question to me, is how are you going to find out which one is true?

But your answer is in the question. The system is backward and repressive, but when things are going ok, the people are happy. You have to understand that the average person is concerned with his savings account and getting 3 meals a day. He will not lose his savings or go hungry to protest government repression on FLG or government hypocrisy on free speech. People will only protest when their land is taken away to give to developers. Basically people are not high minded.

China is backward in that free speech is guaranteed in its Constitution but you cannot criticize the government without getting locked up. China is backwards in that Jiang Zemin can simply order the FLG sect be destroyed and it was done. Imagine in the USA, if the president orders that the Mormon sect be destroyed, he will be impeached out of office. This is an elementary observation, yet people think that China is so advanced. This inability to follow the Constitution colors everything and allows the Chinese government to do what it wants. Any system that has unchecked powers will make big mistakes, sooner or later. When President Xi ordered that everyone be locked up during Covid, it was a big mistake. The order cost the economy dearly and closed millions of businesses. Yet, the complains of the people were not heard. When people are herded into confinement in big centers with strangers, they feel isolated and their immune system goes south! It was much better for people to isolate in their own rooms, despite the possibility of contaminating other member of the family. Yet, the system in China will not allow the voice of the people be heard. The simple demand of following its Constitution will do wonders for China, or any other repressive government.

The basic question that the bishops had to decide was:

Was Jesus THE Son of God, (ie. Jesus was special)
OR
Was Jesus A son of God. (ie. Jesus was just like the rest of us)

Yes, the early Church Fathers were genuinely concerned with this important theological question. It turned out that they decided that Jesus is THE Son of God. We should also understand that the bishops were philosophers, and that the question already included that God is the all knowing and all powerful Creator of the Universe. So if Jesus is THE Son of God how is Jesus related to the finite world and why did He lived a life with aging and death?

Buddha, Lao Tzu, zen, all say that everything is ultimately connected. But this connection cannot be seen or describe in language. To believe a God such as the early Church Fathers believed is to make certain assumptions that are not philosophical, for example, to assume an infinite God in a finite world. Not being philosophers, the early Church Fathers have to make the best decision for the benefit of the Church! Once the decision was made that Jesus is THE Son of God, it made Christianity a particularly special religion and eventually so popular that the whole Western world was conquered. Knowing this history and the philosophical implications will help people understand the deep issues involved aside from the more popular question,”if I accept Christ will I be saved?”

Why bother to speculate, when you could just visit China and see the answer for yourself?

I have been to China several times. But I did not spent time with students talking about freedom. It was more visiting culture spots and scenic areas. However, I also know students from China here in the US. They say that the general public cannot access, for example, Google, Facebook or Youtube. Yes, you can go around them if you have the technical skill to use a VPN. However, if you persist in looking in using VPN, you WILL GET A WARNING ON YOUR PHONE! If you persist in looking up forbidden topic (which they don’t dare do), you may get into trouble.

On the State Department disinfo payroll, are you, racist? Public opinion is extensively tracked in China by the Government and by local and foreign polling groups, and ALL record very high satisfaction with life in China.

I am not anti-China, but get all these paranoia responses. They track public opinion, and will try to accomodate. But when it is really important, then people have no say. For example, they can be locked up in detention centers for Covid when they just want to isolate in their own rooms. They have no say. People used to hold up blank sheets of paper to protest, but they are afraid to even do that now! If only the government allow people to freely express themselves then China will beat the US hands down.

And was produced by the same cultists I saw on the street when I went to university. I’m not sure if they have received any NED money but they are effectively an anti-China propaganda outlet and I could easily see US intelligence working with them.

The FLG in the US runs the Epoch Times and they seem to have a lot of funds for a free newspaper. So I don’t doubt that they get funding from US covert sources.
Yet, IT IS STILL CHINA’S FAULT FOR ATTACKING A SECT (OR CULT) THAT WAS A PEACEFUL QIGONG SECT!!! Some people suspect that Jiang Zemin was jealous of Li Hongzhi, who was getting more and more popular in China. Li traveled throughout China and gave lectures, often to thousands of attendees. A country that allows some old dude’s jealousy ruin a country’s good name has a need for serious reform !!! Yes, you all say that FLG is a cult. But it is a cult only because Jiang Zemin say so. Let us say it is a cult. SO WHAT???????????????????? Are you saying that I cannot join a cult?????? Two thousand years ago Christianity was also called a cult. Now, it is the world’s biggest religion. People’s responses to the FLG ban show that many people in China really DON’T BELIEVE IN FREEDOM OF SPEECH!

Why don’t you ever reply to my posting but always spew out insults??? There is zero racism in my post, racism exists only in your paranoia.

So why did China allow Li Hongzhi to lecture all over China and become very popular, if FLG was really an evil cult?????????????? FLG became very popular and grew large. Jiang Zemin got jealous of Li Hongzhi and was also concerned that FLG was as large as the communist party. Then Jiang wanted to destroy FLG, mostly out of jealousy. To do that he said that FLG is an evil cult and used the resources of the whole of China to destroy FLG. Jiang was a paranoid person. The system in China allowed an old jealous person to be able to destroy competition and ruin the reputation of China. A real shame. The system definitely needs reform. Note that there is no racism at all.