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    Dear Mexican: I've read that 75% of Americans are against giving illegal immigrants citizenship. I’m for full amnesty and citizenship for the current 12 million that are here, but I have two absolute conditions. First, the border is locked up by both the U.S. and Mexico, and illegal entries are reduced by 90% even if...
  • @Jim Bob Lassiter
    I believe Mexican law precludes renunciation of citizenship.

    Replies: @J. Dart

    Mexico lets Mexicans renounce citizenship if they want. They just have to go to the consulate and do some paperwork. (Almost no one does.)

    https://consulmex.sre.gob.mx/sandiego/index.php/doble-nacionalidad/renuncia-de-la-nacionalidad-mexicana

    What Mexico doesn’t do is treat the U.S. naturalization oath as automatically cancelling Mexican citizenship. They stopped doing so in 1998 if I remember correctly.

    In Mexico’s defense, the U.S. started that particular bad habit first. The 1980 Supreme Court case Vance v. Terrazas was about a guy born in the U.S. to Mexican parents (Terrazas) who, as part of the graduation paperwork at a public university in Mexico, signed a paper saying he renounced allegiance to the United States and swore allegiance to Mexico. SCOTUS said that Vance (U.S. Secretary of State) couldn’t automatically conclude, just by looking at the words in the oath, that Terrazas intended to give up U.S. citizenship. In other words, SCOTUS adopted a legal presumption that oaths of allegiance to other countries are meaningless and sworn with false intent.

    In 1996, the State Department promulgated regulations (22 CFR 50.40) codifying that presumption. By 2014, they started charging a $2350 administrative fee for honest ex-Americans who’d sworn an oath of allegiance to another country and wanted State to overturn the presumption of false intent in their individual case.

    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @J. Dart

    Thanks for setting my straight on that.

  • @JaimeInTexas
    I thought that restrictions of foreigners owning property in Mexico applied only to coastal lands and within 100 miles (some such distance) from a border, that the foreigner must partner (it can be in a SA), not in majority, with a Mexican national.
    Nothing says loyalty to new country like not giving up (abjuring) previous citizenship, especially because of personal benefits.
    Go home ... for many that means Mexico.

    Replies: @J. Dart

    I thought that restrictions of foreigners owning property in Mexico applied only to coastal lands and within 100 miles (some such distance) from a border, that the foreigner must partner (it can be in a SA), not in majority, with a Mexican national.

    This is basically right. Except you don’t even need to partner with a Mexican citizen, you can just get a Mexican lawyer to create a fideicomiso for you (kind of like a trust) and assign the land to it, then you’ll have full control over the land.

    Nothing says loyalty to new country like not giving up (abjuring) previous citizenship, especially because of personal benefits.

    The U.S. could just tell all the immigrants at naturalization ceremonies that they’ve got six months or a year or however long to send proof to USCIS that they went to the consulate and cancelled their old country’s citizenship, or their naturalization will be cancelled as fraudulent.. Norway, Estonia, Japan, and Singapore all do this, for example.

  • A screenshot from Economist.com: Oh, well ... So I guess I'll never know what the The Economist has to say about the advantages of Open Borders because the rest of the article is secured away behind The Economist's paywall. But I can probably guess anyway.
  • There is already one first-world territory that has de jure open borders with at least three third world hellholes: any citizen of Afghanistan, Egypt, or Venezuela can move to Svalbard and live there peacefully under Norwegian law and Norwegian institutions, thanks to the Svalbard Treaty. So why isn’t Svalbard the richest island on the planet?

    It’s a bit windy and chilly there (slightly above 0 F in the winter), but $78 trillion extra dollars should cover a lot of heating bills and roof repairs. And of course, similarly awful weather hasn’t stopped refugees from flooding into Canada, Finland, Norway proper, and other far-northern countries.

    So, instead of taking a chance on illegally sneaking into the US or Germany, why aren’t Afghan asylum-seekers flooding to Svalbard where they’ll never have to worry about being deported? Oh right, not enough of a native Norwegian population off of whom they can sponge welfare.

    • Replies: @Ivy
    @J. Dart

    Svalbard needs more cleaners to mop up after seed vault inundations. They asked for more engineers but those weren't on offer. Now they can fulfill their destiny.

    Query: Are there rainbows in perpetually gray sky places like Svalbard? Or do they snap that one unicorn rainbow and reuse the image as needed?

  • From the New York Times: Now you can buy feminist cheese, which is made solely from the milk of female livestock. And anti-transphobic feminist cheese is guaranteed to be from livestock who identify as female.
  • In contrast, anti-transphobic cheese is guaranteed to be from livestock who identify as female.

    Nah, if you milk a male cow, the protein content in the “milk” is probably too high to produce good cheese.

    (In all seriousness, bull semen sells for higher prices than cheese on a pound-per-pound basis. Another example of bovine discrimination!)

  • Donald J. Trump tweets: I tweet back: Also, while Gary Oldman was of course great as Chuck, Chloe Webb really steals the show as Nancy.
  • Somewhat related: a major national newspaper says, in an editorial

    On a different note, it is imperative to mention here that illegal immigrants are a pain in the neck in this country. … Illegal migrants and criminals must stay away.

    I guess Africans are allowed to say that.

    http://www.dailynews.co.tz/index.php/editorial/54502-foreigners-do-not-deserve-tanzanian-identity-cards

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    @J. Dart

    J. Dart:

    Rest assured that an editorial of this sense would never appear in New York City's Daily News whose current editorial policy is kindergarten liberalism of the lowest degree.

    It really is a shame in light of the DN's ancient history of upright conservatism just like the Chicago Tribune, its previous owner.

  • From the Daily Mail on the immigration status of the incompetent Times Square subway bomber: Records show that Ullah moved to the U.S. from Chittagong, Bangladesh in February 2011 on a F-4 visa, and is now a legal green-card owner. The FR-4 visa is a preferential visa for those who already have family in the...
  • • Replies: @TWS
    @J. Dart

    So just four more to go before they deport our newest San Francisco saint?

  • Thank goodness for Russian sleazeballs exploiting our immigration law loopholes: their whiteness allows the mass media to get worked up on the topic instead of still nervously shying away from, say, endemic Chinese birth tourism on the grounds that it might be racist to notice. From NBC: Birth tourism brings Russian baby boom to Miami...
  • @George
    Before you decide to become a 'USA person' as defined by the IRS:

    “I was outraged when the U.S. demanded that my bank send them my private financial information. After 38 years of being Canadian, I am furious that my own government puts so little value on our Charter and my rights as a citizen that they are willing to sell me out to a foreign government.”

    http://www.adcs-adsc.ca/

    January 8, 2018 Canadian FATCA IGA Legislation Litigation Update

    https://isaacbrocksociety.ca/2018/01/08/january-8-2018-canadian-fatca-iga-legislation-litigation-update/

    Issac Brock was a British General that died defending Canada from the US.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Account_Tax_Compliance_Act

    I have a vague memory of like in the late 1800 and early 1900 rich Americans tried to get their daughters married to titled Brits, so that for perpetuity their off spring would have fancy British titles and privileges. The American girls did not like living in primative country estates with lazy not especially high income Brits. And the titles, while still valid for perpetuity, were almost ridiculous after WWI certainly WWII.

    Replies: @J. Dart

    1. Government-created problem (birth tourism abuse, terrorism, etc.)
    2. Has blindingly obvious solution which the media deems Beyond the Pale
    3. US government implements second-best privacy-invading Rube Goldberg deterrent instead (global taxation, TSA fondlings, NSA eavesdropping, etc.)
    4. And enforces it only against real Americans, not against foreign crooks and terrorists

  • From Cupertino Today: Cupertino is dying out, what with only having one $5 billion new Apple headquarters opening in it lately. Solution: more immigrants! Oh, wait, they already have a lot. From Wikipedia: The racial makeup of Cupertino was 18,270 (31.3%) White, 344 (0.6%) Black American, 117 (0.2%) American Indian, 36,895 (63.3%) Asian (28.1% Chinese,...
  • @Beckow

    a case of an entire city that new whites cannot afford to move into. The whites that still live there got there before 1990 or so
     
    True, but it requires an explanation. Why are Asians able to move to places like Cupertino and whites are not? The market presumably works the same for everyone.

    What is missing is what neither liberals nor most conservatives are willing to discuss: Chinese and Indians are running a perfect racket by arbitraging the current US policies. Young Indians/Chinese get their education mostly for free in home countries or by 'migrating' to US as young kids who then go to universities in US for free because their family has no income in US. They might be quite wealthy back home, but in US the system sees them as indigents. After obtaining the free education, Indians/Chinese move to work in places like Silicon Valley with no student debts. They get to start all over again - something native white Americans don't get to do.

    Combined with money brought from home countries (most of these migrants are from middle and upper classes), with no student debt, and companies falling all over themselves to hire them (often because an uncle or cousin is the one hiring them), their financial situation is dramatically better than of the native white population. So they buy homes.

    A perfect racket that takes advantage of the absurd US system that penalises its own young people. It would be as if young Americans would get great education at home, load up on debt, and then when ready to work would promptly decamp to London or Paris and forget about their debts. There is also the money that these migrating families take from China/India to get established in US. With not having to pay for education, that is naturally easier.

    Only modern Western liberals can be either stupid enough, or hateful of the despised white 'deplorables', to celebrate and encourage this scam.

    Replies: @Thomm, @anon, @J. Dart

    They might be quite wealthy back home, but in US the system sees them as indigents

    Bingo. Google “pre-immigration trust” for an example of how they do this legally, and a convenient list of amoral tax lawyers who help them do it.

  • @Thomm
    @Beckow


    or by ‘migrating’ to US as young kids who then go to universities in US for free because their family has no income in US.
     
    Actually, you are wrong.

    Not only do international students not receive any aid at the undergrad level (they only get aid if grad students), but the 700,000 Chinese students in the US as undergrads are paying full price, and delaying the much-needed collapse of US SJW Universities.

    http://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/families/article/2085754/how-chinese-student-boom-has-kept-us-public-universities-afloat

    The notion that they are coming here to get free college is absurd. The truth is exactly the opposite. I would prefer if they weren't keeping US Universities afloat by paying full price, and the Univ. SJWs got their just desserts via deserved unemployment.

    The rest of your comment is also wrong, because nowhere can you admit that perhaps these Asians pursue rigorous fields, and with 41% of white Americans born to single mothers, fewer and fewer American kids are likely to pursue STEM at all.

    Replies: @J. Dart, @Beckow

    Not only do international students not receive any aid at the undergrad level (they only get aid if grad students), but the 700,000 Chinese students in the US as undergrads are paying full price

    You’re talking about F visa holders. Beckow’s presumably talking about dependent children of legal immigrants, who indeed get in-state tuition, in-state admissions preferences (e.g. Texas Top 10, etc.) and even financial aid if they are poor enough – or can contrive to appear so for FAFSA purposes. (Not so common among EB-1/2 green carders who usually need to work for a living, but extremely common among EB-5s laundering ill-gotten gains out of China.)

    Dependent non-citizen children of non-immigrant visa holders (H-1B, etc.) are in an intermediate position; some states will give them in-state tuition, others won’t. (IIRC, California’s in the “will” category”, while Michigan’s one of the “won’t” states.)

    and delaying the much-needed collapse of US SJW Universities.

    International students rarely engage with that stuff either way. They don’t participate in it, but they don’t stand in its way unless it’s directly impacting them (“hey hey this is a library!”). And kids of immigrants are a whole ‘nother story.

  • Donald Trump's sister imprisoned a saintly immigrant activist and now the Trump Administration is trying to deport him, just because he's a white collar felon convicted of 7 counts of wire fraud in mortgage scams. From the New York Times: Does anybody ever really faint from surprise? Ladies used to faint all the time in...
  • @Alden
    The book The Deporter by Ames Holbrook explains the many slips between the deportation order and actually putting them on a plane.

    He was an ICE agent whose job was removing them from the detention center and putting them in the plane.

    There were many obstacles. Last resort was the deportee having a hysterical fit and being denied boarding on the grounds he would be dangerous on the flight.

    After the deportation order, the country of Origin has to agree to take their national back.
    Many don’t take those back who have criminal records. China won’t take back the elderly because China uses the USA as their pension system. Mexico uses us as their trash can
    Many countries don’t take their criminal nationals back. Mexico and China are among the worst offenders

    The book is very revealing.

    OT a 300 pd creature names Oprah is in the TV screeching about weight watchers. I guess she is supposed to make 200 of women feel better about their weight.

    Replies: @J. Dart

    First, thanks for the book recommendation.

    Many don’t take those back who have criminal records. China won’t take back the elderly because China uses the USA as their pension system. Mexico uses us as their trash can
    Many countries don’t take their criminal nationals back. Mexico and China are among the worst offenders

    And don’t forget Vietnam. Just last month I read about a Vietnamese guy who murdered a whole family in San Francisco. (I was shocked that a Bay Area jury actually convicted the guy.) Turns out he should have been deported ten years ago because of his last convictions, but instead Bush signed an agreement with the Vietnamese saying they didn’t have to take back criminals and illegals who arrived before 1995. So he stayed.

    http://lompocrecord.com/news/state-and-regional/jury-finds-man-guilty-in-san-francisco-quintuple-homicide/article_570643ae-1e8c-55b0-bf7a-9dc081197f60.html

  • From the Washington Post: Another way of looking at it is: why have you spent 24 years in the U.S. since you were ordered deported? From the leftist Alternet: Jean Montrevil came to the United States legally with a green card. He and 12 siblings arrived from H
  • Jean Montrevil came to the United States legally with a green card. He and 12 siblings arrived from Haiti in 1986, after his U.S. citizen dad sponsored them.

    Fun fact: the Child Citizenship Act of 2000 would have automatically given US citizenship to Jean Montrevil if he were just a few years younger. See 8 USC 1431. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1431

    The CCA was sold to the public as “cutting red tape for American parents adopting babies from overseas”. In reality it handed out citizenship like candy to a bunch of random bastards and stepchildren who’d been left behind in the old country while dad abandoned them to immigrate to America.

    Instead of making the kids go through the usual niceties of the naturalization process like living here for five years, learning English, and demonstrating attachment to the good order of the country, they got citizenship automatically by virtue of living in the US for one day with their “American” dad, even if dad himself only got his American citizenship that year. The Magic Dirt and the fiat of Congress instantly transformed them into Good Americans. Isn’t legal immigration so heartwarming?

    In simpler terms: for every Jean Montrevil they’re trying to deport, there’s plenty more younger and wilder versions of him who are undeportable because a Republican Congress and Clinton conspired to make them into “citizens” automatically.

  • More from Black Hearted Reactionary: The very low rates of deportations to Laos and Vietnam probably had something to do with those countries not wanting to take back their nationals.
  • It’s not just Vietnam “not wanting” to take back their nationals — Dubya’s State Department signed an agreement giving Vietnam the power to refuse to take them back:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20170202205758/https://www.state.gov/documents/organization/108921.pdf

    But hey, look on the bright side! Thanks to the retention of all that Vietnamese Vibrancy, we got proof that California juries actually are willing to convict immigrant criminals, if they kill five people instead of just one:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Ingleside,_San_Francisco_homicide

    Dubya signed plenty of obscure anti-American executive agreements while he was in office. Another infamous one was the Social Security agreement with Mexico. (At least Congress refused to approve that one.)

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @J. Dart


    Dubya signed plenty of obscure anti-American executive agreements while he was in office.
     
    In the final analysis, W was about as Anti-American as most Republicrats. Which is why so many of them with (R) after their names are so violently opposed to Trump and/or anything redolent of nationalism or even patriotism.

    The Dem-Rep Colossus is an occupying force, and they've just about turned the entire nation into a vassal state for the Ruling Tribe.
  • Koreans have always struck me as among the most nationalistic people on earth, so it's always struck me as plausible that someday the peninsula will be one nation-state. Unfortunately, I don't have any brilliant suggestions for how to get there. One possibility is that the successful South Korean state will, in the fullness of time,...
  • @Svigor

    If the South Koreans were especially nationalistic

    1/ there would be a huge objection to all those US troops on their territory even if that meant being absorbed by their Northern cousins.

    2/ they would have a national religion

    3/ they would invent proof that various great non-Koreans were really Koreans as well as ‘proof’ that various inventions were rally Korean inventions

     

    If the Koreans weren't especially nationalistic

    1. There would be no Korea. Only more China.

    Replies: @J. Dart

    I have my doubts. If the Koreans were especially nationalistic, they would defend all their borders not just the northern one, and they would defend their public sphere.

    Instead they let a million foreigners into their country in a decade, among then hundreds of thousands of Chinese who are an obvious threat to independence, plus tens of thousands of Muslims who have consummately demonstrated their lack of aptitude at modern civilization-building in their homelands
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_people_in_Korea
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreigners_in_Korea#Statistics

    And their cinemas show blatant propaganda encouraging impressionable young women to mate with those Muslim migrants while portraying local men as jobless losers and abusive bosses
    https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/art/2009/06/141_47069.html

    South Korea’s not as far gone as Western Europe, but judging from what I can see ten thousand miles away, they’re on the same trajectory and their elites are 110% committed to catching up.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @J. Dart


    If the Koreans were especially nationalistic, they would defend all their borders not just the northern one, and they would defend their public sphere.

    Instead they let a million foreigners into their country in a decade, among then hundreds of thousands of Chinese who are an obvious threat to independence
     
    You got that right. The most popular honeymoon/vacation destination in South Korea is the island of Jeju, which has a unique culture (and dialect and, completely unrelatedly, excellent pheasant hunting). Much of Jeju's commercial buildings are now Chinese-owned, to the grumblings of the local residents. Would a national government that is "xenophobic" let this happen?
  • From the Washington Post: Well, sure, a huge n
  • @PiltdownMan
    Ishaan Tharoor, who has a twin brother, is a Yale graduate who grew up in New York, the son of a career United Nations bureaucrat. His father, who is Indian, made a bid for UN Secretary General, failed, and returned home to India to pursue a career as a politician. The dad, curiously for an Indian guy who worked for decades in New York, sounds very un-Indian. Here's a Youtube clip of him railing against the horrors of British imperialism in his homeland.

    https://youtu.be/O-VK2sDZCQw?t=46s

    Replies: @J. Dart, @Anonymous, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Olorin

    Ishaan Tharoor, who has a twin brother, is a Yale graduate who grew up in New York, the son of a career United Nations bureaucrat. His father, who is Indian, made a bid for UN Secretary General, failed, and returned home to India to pursue a career as a politician.

    One of the lesser-known bits of silliness in the US immigration system: automatic green cards for family members of career UN bureaucrats in New York

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1101#a_27_I

    https://www.uscis.gov/green-card/other-ways-get-green-card/green-card-international-organization-employees

  • From the New York Times: Or maybe Senator Warren isn't a member of Congress? Or she's not really a woman? This is actually a pretty sensible way to think about it. All sorts of white people have family stories about being descended from an Indian princess, and some white people have some Indian ancestry, and...
  • @J.Ross
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    I am strongly tempted to expect that this is a troll account. His last name is "Tribe" (!) and among his previous gaffes are calling the Parkland Players Campaign To Erase The Constitution a "Children's Crusade," which he clearly meant in a historically-illiterate, positive way. He did a few others things that were too dumb to be real but I can't remember specifics.

    Replies: @Autochthon, @J. Dart, @Twinkie

    I am strongly tempted to expect that this is a troll account. His last name is “Tribe”

    Reality is weirder than fiction. He’s a Harvard law prof. His brother was a Zen Buddhist teacher in the Bay Area.

    Even better: his dad’s name is George Israel Tribe.

  • From my new column in Taki's Magazine: Read the whole thing there.
  • In contrast, there are no longer laws determining who is black and who is white in America, only vague regulatory guidelines.

    Sheila Jackson-Lee has tried a few times to get a tighter definition of “minority-owned business” written into law: at least 51% owned by people who are at least 25% Asian Indian, Asian Pacific, Black, Hispanic, or native American, with detailed definitions of who counts as each. (Amusingly enough, a bunch of groups get left out in the cold by her definitions: Brazilians, Burmese, and Bhutanese, for example.)

    I remembered the bill when I read it the first time because of the odd phrase “true-born Hispanic heritage”

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/70/text#H65AB0AA2F15F45C5AD34965A61BD1941

  • From Aeon: Black Achilles The Greeks didn’t have modern ideas of race. Did they see themselves as white, black – or as something else altogether? by Tim Whitmarsh is the A G Leventis Professor of Greek culture at the University of Cambridge, and has held professorial posts at Oxford and Exeter. His latest book is...
  • @Clifford Brown
    What is Donna Zuckerberg's position on the Black Hebrew Israelites? Did the Black population skip Israel in their conquest of Ancient Greece, Rome and Albion?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r9ijdvJ9KU

    Replies: @J. Dart

    Somewhat on topic: very strange anecdote from the State Department guy who handled all the problems related to the Black Hebrew Israelites and the Israeli attempts to deport them and stop more of them from coming

    https://adst.org/2017/02/american-israeli-tensions-black-hebrew-community/

  • We see numerous Criminal Masterminds in movies and TV shows but fewer in real life. In Baltimore, however, a genuine Genius is being charged with first-degree murder. From the Daily Mail: By the way, do you get the feeling that maybe Matthews' grandmother is taking the fall for the 16 year old male? The three...
  • Newspapers love to portray “felony murder rule” cases as some sort of awful miscarriage of justice. Riles up the bleeding hearts. (Surprised to see the Daily Mail taking that angle, though.)

    I for one think it’s a very good legal tradition, worth preserving.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @J. Dart


    Newspapers love to portray “felony murder rule” cases as some sort of awful miscarriage of justice. Riles up the bleeding hearts. (Surprised to see the Daily Mail taking that angle, though.)

    I for one think it’s a very good legal tradition, worth preserving.
     
    The problem in this case is that the idiot prosecutor has admitted that the felony murder rule doesn't apply even while he tries to apply it.

    He didn't charge Genius with burglary, so the murder wasn't committed in the course of a burglary.
  • “Affirmative action” means hiring people because they can’t do the job well. Near-synonyms are “diversity,” meaning groups that cannot do the job well, and “inclusiveness,” which means seeking people who you know cannot do the job well. These underpin American society, and have ruined education. For some time the sciences seemed less susceptible to the...
  • @Abelard Lindsey
    Perhaps there is a market for STEM universities outside the U.S. that will admit exclusively on merit and no other criteria. Assuming that China does not collapse from within (they have a seriously over-leveraged banking system), is it not possible that American students might try to get into Chinese and other Asian universities around 2035 because the diversicrats have utterly destroyed ours?

    Replies: @J. Dart, @bomag, @JMcG

    In the long term, maybe. In the short term, right now lots of non-Western universities have affirmative action of their own for international students, to boost their US News & World Report & Times Higher Education rankings (since the rankings started to place more weight on “proportion of international students” as a proxy for quality of education), and it’s really not good for their brand names.

  • @Twinkie
    @Lot

    One Asian, but a female.

    Replies: @Lot, @Anon, @J. Dart

    According to the NYT Journalism Institute’s homepage, there’s only two routes in:

    The next Institute will be held from May 19 to June 3, 2018 for students (including those graduating in December or May) who are members of the National Association of Black Journalists and the National Association of Hispanic Journalists.

    A few years ago, a lady of similar ancestry got in by being a member of the National Association of Hispanic Journalists, says her school’s press release, so I’m guessing that’s how this one (and all the white-looking ones) got in this time around too.

  • From The Tablet: I don't actually pay attention to Spy vs. Spy stuff, so don't ask me if this article makes any sense. But it has always been obvious that with Washington DC as the de facto Imperial Capital of the World, all sorts of different governments will attempt to win influence there. The ones...
  • @J.Ross
    There was never any reason to use the word "Russians." That was a cynical calculation by the people conspiring to interfere in and over-rule the election, who were consistently American (with a few British people); they figured boomers are still wired to react Pavlovishly to the word.
    RUSSIANS!
    Israelis? Sure, maybe, but they're all over American politics, and do whatever they please. It's like these idiots who are for open borders but want marijuana to be illegal or regulated. If you found many Israelis you would still not have established an equivalent to the hoped-for thing Mueller is supposedly questing after, which is not "Russians" but Putin. There's Israelis all over American politics because we do not have the sensible citizenship rules for office holders that have created recent healthy trouble in Australia and New Zealand, and "Israelis" do not mean "the Israeli government."
    What happened was, the American and some British people in power had a nice thing going, they did not want to leave, they did not want their criminal activity exposed, so they set up traps (OCONUS Lures, ie, Halper) -- which proved ineffective, and Boris and Natasha stories -- which all the blasting the Mighty Wurlitzer can offer cannot make credible. It was Americans.
    Unless, of course, y'know, that one guy really is Kenyan ...

    Replies: @J. Dart

    There’s Israelis all over American politics because we do not have the sensible citizenship rules for office holders that have created recent healthy trouble in Australia and New Zealand

    We do not have sensible citizenship rules period.

    Everyone knows about the anchor baby crap, so I’ll discuss some more obscure points. Since 1795, black letter law has required that naturalized citizens swear an oath renouncing all allegiance to other sovereigns, but Earl Warren’s Supreme Court made sure (e.g. Afroyim v. Rusk, 1967) that absolutely no penalty attaches to voting in a foreign election or even serving in a foreign military after you naturalize. An attempt in 2005 to pass a law criminalizing that behavior didn’t even make it out of committee.

    We have another Supreme Court precedent that when an “American” – more precisely, a de facto former American – swears an oath of allegiance to another country, he’s lying (Vance v. Terrazas, 1980. Terrazas was an anchor baby and Vietnam War draft dodger who went down to Mexico and deliberately created legal uncertainty about his US citizenship until he passed draft age, at which point he headed for court to protect his “rights”). To add insult to injury, Hillary Clinton invented a $450 State Department fee for honest people who want to overturn the Terrazas presumption that they’re lying, and then John Kerry raised it to $2350.

    Meanwhile even so-called “cucked” European countries like Norway and Spain still at least have the balls to tell immigrants that dual citizenship is verboten and if they want to get naturalized, they have to go to their old country’s consulate and actually renounce citizenship. They can’t just swear a false oath out of one side of their mouth the way America lets them do.

    Sorry for the wall-of-text reply to a tangential point of yours. This stuff really pisses me off.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @J. Dart

    Wasn't Afroyim even elected to a foreign parliament?

    Replies: @J. Dart

    , @Yngvar
    @J. Dart


    Meanwhile even so-called “cucked” European countries like Norway and Spain still at least have the balls to tell immigrants that dual citizenship is verboten
     
    Not true for Norway anymore. There was a problem; Pakistan considers every Pakistani anywhere to be a Pakistani citizen, so when the Norwegian police revoked indicted Pakistani-Norwegians passport, to prevent them from fleeing, the criminals just went to the Pakistani embassy, got a new passport and left. This new law on citizenship can fix this problem by way of keeping them out of the country for good.
  • As part of the broad European trend, in Denmark's parliament the left-of-center Social Democrats, the official opposition & single biggest party, are moving toward increased immigration restriction. From Bloomberg: The Social Democrats are the main left of center party and the official opposition, while the Social Liberals are a smaller, but not insignificant, centrist party...
  • Step one for Denmark: make dual citizenship illegal again. For some reason I don’t understand (lobbying by Danes living abroad?), they legalized it four years ago.

    For that matter it should be step one for America too.

    • Replies: @Pericles
    @J. Dart


    Step one for Denmark: make dual citizenship illegal again. For some reason I don’t understand (lobbying by Danes living abroad?), they legalized it four years ago.

     

    But that would be anti-semitic!
    , @Yngvar
    @J. Dart

    Allowing dual citizenship makes it possible to expel criminal immigrants. Without that law they would de jure be stateless citizens, a breach of European human rights conventions.

  • From The Tablet: I don't actually pay attention to Spy vs. Spy stuff, so don't ask me if this article makes any sense. But it has always been obvious that with Washington DC as the de facto Imperial Capital of the World, all sorts of different governments will attempt to win influence there. The ones...
  • @Steve Sailer
    @J. Dart

    Wasn't Afroyim even elected to a foreign parliament?

    Replies: @J. Dart

    IIRC, Afroyim only voted, and didn’t run for office himself. But his case and later Terrazas’ case paved the way for others to get elected to foreign parliaments without losing US citizenship, e.g. Moshe Arens and Meir Kahane in Israel in the 70s and 80s, or Diane Lee in Taiwan in the 90s.

    And now we’re in $CURRENT_YEAR where the President of Somalia has US citizenship while sitting in office, which is utterly unprecedented in US legal history (the Baltic guys in the 90s like Toomas Ilves and Valdas Adamkus at least did the right thing and renounced US citizenship before running for foreign office) but the media barely makes a peep. Ain’t it great how fast these things move “forward”? Just five years ago, even Obama’s State Department was uncomfortable with the idea of a US citizen being president of a foreign country:

    7 FAM 1285 WHAT IS A POLICY-LEVEL POSITION WITH A FOREIGN STATE? (CT:CON-449; 03-25-2013)

    Holding a head-of-state, head-of-government, or foreign-minister position may be incompatible with maintaining U.S. citizenship, although the issue has not been expressly decided by the Department. Under international law, as applied in the United States, a foreign head of state, head of government, or a foreign minister (who is not a local national) enjoys absolute immunity from the criminal, civil and administrative jurisdiction of U.S. law, a status that some believe to be inconsistent with continued allegiance to the United States. However others have expressed a contrary view.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @J. Dart

    Obama nominated the former head of the governmental Bank of Israel to be Deputy Chairman of the Federal Reserve Board.

    Replies: @Lot

  • From the Times of London:
  • So Erdogan managed to get 30,000 Syrians onto the voter rolls in like, what, seven years? Amateur. The US government naturalizes that many Pakistanis alone in three years, and more than twice that many Africans every single year:

    https://www.dhs.gov/immigration-statistics/yearbook/2016/table21

  • As I wrote in Taki's Magazine in 2015: What are the odds that at some point something will go wrong in Latin America that interested parties in the U.S. will try to define as justifying our own Camp of the Saints? Last year, the Obama administration tried to pass off Central American gang violence as...
  • Fifth, as my reader Alfa 158 suggests, the U.S. government could easily penalize elites in the sending countries:

    If applicants are denied refugee status and their home country refuses to accept them back, stop issuing any visas for that country. Even the elites who don’t want to emigrate here will hate the idea of not being able to send their kids to school in the US, or make the occasional luxury shopping spree trip.

    That’s exactly Section 243(d) of the Immigration and Nationality Act. It’s been the law since 1952 and it’s still on the books. They just don’t bother enforcing it.

    Up through 2016 I think only two countries had ever been designated under that section. Trump designated four more, but he didn’t take on any of the big offenders like Vietnam or Bangladesh (whose undeported criminal citizens committed murders on US soil during the Obama administration), let alone China.

  • From the NYT Opinion page: This would have been a cutting edge column in 1978. In 2018, it's awfully ho-hum. In the 21st Century, Denmark has taken the lead in preserving its welfare state by resisting demographic inundation from the Third World. Yet, I don't see the text string "migra" anywhere in Dr. Krugman's column,...
  • One mildly interesting fact I learned, possibly from a fellow commenter around these parts (I can’t quite remember). The Danes invented a a very useful word for something that has no simple name in English: the habit of certain immigrant groups of sending their kids back to their homeland on extended vacation, to prevent them from assimilating too closely with their “fellow citizens” in the first world. And they’ve passed laws to punish the parents who send their kids on those kinds of trips.

    I just wish the name were easier to pronounce. “Genopdragelsesrejser” is a bit of a mouthful for Anglophones.

    Back in the days leading up to WWII when American English had a shorter loanword for this phenomenon (“kibei”), we also had laws to address it. We stripped dual citizens of their US citizenship if they resided for too long in their other country of citizenship (e.g. Section 402 of the Nationality Act of 1940, or Section 350 of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952). Too bad, people forgot the word and the phenomenon it described, then the law got rewritten by Earl Warren’s court, and then Congress quietly surrendered and took the law off the books in 1978.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  • From The Guardian: I thought legalizing marijuana in California was supposed to reduce violence in Mexico? The Baja California border is only a few hours drive from the 20 million people of Southern California, so it could be an immensely profitable tourist and second home area, especially because rich people along California's coast connive like...
  • My guess is that Mexican lawyers would oppose an outright New Zealand-style ban on foreigners buying real estate. That would force them to give up their very nice side business creating fideocomisos for foreigners who want to buy real estate near borders or the coast.

    And no one else in Mexican society can really organize the level of coordination that would be required to tell the lawyers to go screw themselves. (Classic Mancur Olson collective action problem.)

  • In case you were wondering whether the tyrannical Trump Administration has yet managed to deport mortgage fraud felon Ravi Ragbir (convicted of 7 counts of wire fraud in 2000 and his appeal was shot down by Judge Maryanne Trump Barry 16 years ago) back to Trinidad, from the Washington Post today: Uh ... His appeal...
  • @Anon
    "It may be that Trinidad has refused to take him back. The way it works, if their home country doesn’t want deportees we can’t send them back. Even if we strapped them in a plane seat the customs agents in the home country would put them right back on the plane to America."

    We can't retaliate by revoking their tourist visas? We can't place tariffs on their exports? We can't ban our own citizens from traveling to those countries until we get what we want?

    Replies: @J. Dart

    We can’t retaliate by revoking their tourist visas?

    Back when we sort of had a country and a representative government, Congress passed Section 243(g) of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 to do exactly that. The Supremes never bothered rewriting it like other parts of the INA because every subsequent administration ignored that section anyway. Before Trump came along it had only been invoked twice in six decades.

    Even Trump is only applying it to foreign government officials instead of to all citizens of the recalcitrant foreign country like the law says. So the US is still letting in “tourists” and “business travelers” without any guarantee that we can send them back if they decide to overstay. The Supremes say we can’t even lock them up for more than 90 days (Zadvydas v. Davis).

  • One little-remarked change over the decades has been the growing shamelessness of special pleading by immigrants. They're barely even trying anymore to phrase arguments in anything other than Us Good, You Bad, We Deserve Your Money terms. For example, from the New York Times opinion page: Maybe the capitalists who own the Chinese restaurants should
  • As usual, the NYT is telling whoppers. The Goodlatte bill that got defeated in June (H.R. 4760, Securing America’s Future Act), did not “bar[] grandparents”. It just stopped them from getting green cards (i.e. path to citizenship followed by chain migration of all their siblings) or public benefits, or taking jobs from American workers. They could still get a special non-immigrant visa to live here for as long as they like, at their own family’s expense (Section 1101(e)).

    Parents being non-quota immigrants is one of the scarier parts of our messed up immigration+welfare system. It’s already bad enough that just 40 quarters of covered earnings in the US, and you get Social Security retirement benefits and Medicare Part A for life. But totalization agreements reduce that to as little as 10 quarters. I.e. grandma comes in age 62, works at minimum wage in the family business for less than three years, and enjoys her US taxpayer-funded retirement. Obama signed a Social Security totalization agreement with Brazil, and there were reports of ongoing negotiations with India. At least we don’t have one with China or Mexico (Dubya signed one with Mexico but never submitted it to Congress). Imagine what would have happened if HRC got elected …

    • Replies: @Alden
    @J. Dart

    If she works a few years and the family pays social security tax she will get regular SSA. But Asian businesses don’t pay payroll taxes and evade other taxes.

    But she can appear at the social security office on her 65 birthday and get the social security for disabled and aged, SSI never having put a penny into social security.

    A van will pick her and others up and a social worker and translator will take the whole crew to the social security office so things go smoothly.

    And a lot of them aren’t 65 but younger with Chinese government documents stating they are 65.

  • @MarkinLA
    @Alfa158

    The way it worked was that their relatives had to sign an affidavit when sponsoring them for immigration certifying that they will support them,


    And I believe the Supreme Court ruled those contracts unenforceable since they were signed by the kids and not the recipients of the goodies. I know plenty of ex-Russian Jews who have their parents on welfare and I don't think they ever supported them. They are on section 8 and SSI. I have a Chinese friend who says he is suck to his stomach every time he has to hear his wife's elderly relatives and their friends brag about how much they get when all of them live well above the average American.

    Replies: @J. Dart

    The affidavit of support is a legally enforceable contract now. Clinton’s welfare reform in 1996 made the INS rewrite the old one, which apparently wasn’t enforceable. (Funnily enough, there’s a halfway-decent New York Times article from 1995 about that.)

    Immigrants themselves have taken advantage of that. There’s tons of recent cases where an immigrant sued their sponsor to enforce the contract, and won (random examples). In every one I’ve seen, there was a divorce involved, meaning the real motive for the suit was to make the sponsoring ex-husband’s life miserable. If the immigrant just wants money, it’s easier for them to apply for benefits than to sue the sponsor.

    The problem is, neither local, state nor federal governments ever bother exercising their explicit statutory authority to sue the sponsor when the immigrant collects benefits. More than a decade ago there was one case where taxpayers sued Los Angeles County to try to force them to do that, but it went nowhere.

  • From the BBC: Commenter Polymath does the math: It's easy to underestimate how big these kind of disproportions are, so here's a handy benchmark to remember: if 20% of the population does 80% of the X, then the individuals in the 20% are doing X at 16 times the rate of the individuals in 80%.
  • Mostly off-topic, besides the fact that one of the authors is a lecturer at a Swedish university: a forthcoming paper in the Brooklyn Law Review

    This article explores the contradictions inherent in the substance as well as the word “milk” and examines the legal, political, cultural, and linguistic forces behind the “milk wars” between dairy milk and plant milk advocates in both Europe and the United States. It examines the US-based battle over the word “milk” through the lens of letters and citizen petitions to the FDA, class action lawsuits, and a 2017 bill called the DAIRY PRIDE Act, as well as the EU-based battle through the lens of EU regulations, a 2017 decision by the European Court of Justice, and a 2014 lawsuit filed by Sweden’s dairy lobby against small-scale oat milk producer Oatly.

    This article argues that while plant milk should not be legally prohibited from being called “milk,” it may not be a word worth fighting for given the entanglements of milk with the oppression and exploitation of women, people of color, and nonhuman animals. It explores plant milk’s potential as a “disruptive milk,” one that can break free from the exploitation and oppression long bound up in dairy milk, and argues that an act of verbal activism – replacing the “i” with a “y” to create “mylk” – may present plant milk advocates with an opportunity to reclaim and reinvent the word for the “post milk generation.”

    Someone better tell those feminist cheesemakers.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @J. Dart

    My brothers a dairy farmer. At one time some vegan feminazis were attacking dairy farmers for exploiting and enslaving cows. Those were the same types that invaded mink farms and liberated the nasty little critters.

    I’d like to see the FDA make it illegal for a liquid plant product to be called milk.

  • From Quillette: Academic Activists Send a Published Paper Down the Memory Hole written by Theodore P. Hill Ted Hill is Professor Emeritus of Mathematics at Georgia Tech, and currently a research scholar in residence at the California Polytechnic State University in San Luis Obispo. Published on September 7, 2018 In the highly controversial area of...
  • @Almost Missouri
    @Anonymouse

    Uh mouse, you mean archive.is.

    You probably also mean "SNL" and "in", but I'm not going to get in the habit of correcting internet typos.

    BTW, archive.is is great for archiving the Paper Of Record when you don't want to give them the click revenue, and as a bonus, archive.is's sidebar gives you a handy % gauge for citations.

    Replies: @Anonymouse, @J. Dart

    The NYT (and for that matter, the other Cathedral mouthpiece, the Washington Post) is getting increasingly aggressive about blocking archivers. Clearly they want the freedom to be able to memory-hole articles which become inconvenient. What I’ve found:

    Internet Archive appears to work at first but then there’s this Javascript redirector that sends you to an error page

    archive.is has been blocked from directly crawling NYT for a while. They started using via.hypothes.is but even that route isn’t reliable anymore and it fails to save pages sometimes.

    megalodon.jp doesn’t seem to save NYT pages correctly, they only get an excerpt with the first paragraph.

    Google Cache works in the short term. archive.is can save Google Cache links sometimes, but gets blocked other times. Bing Cache is more reliable but is a lot slower to update, have to wait until like two or three days after the article gets published.

    The most reliable route I’ve found at the moment is to search for the title of the article on Startpage, get the “proxy” link, and then use archive.is to save that link.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @J. Dart


    "Clearly they want the freedom to be able to memory-hole articles which become inconvenient."
     
    In spite of claims that the internet will make everything more open and transparent, we are edging closer to Orwell's world every day.

    The genocideers at the NYT and WaPo are some scurrilous SOBs.
    , @Almost Missouri
    @J. Dart

    A partial work-around that occurs to me is that the NYT's Twitter feed is stored by archive.org, so unless the NYT finds a way to mess with that, there is something that confirms whether an article once existed, though only as far as the headline and lede.

  • On September 9, Moscow is electing its Mayor. The undoubted winner will be Sergey Sobyanin, who is poised to achieve about 70% of the vote. The main "challenger" is KDPR candidate Vadim Kumin, who is slated to do at least twice better than LDPR candidate Mikhail Degtyarev. There are two factors favoring him. First, there...
  • But it’s quite lame when he couches it in SJW speak (e.g. American policemen are shooting Negroes!).

    This is interesting to me. Russians these days consider such a statement to be modern Western SJW speak, rather than a throwback to the old communist “А у вас негров линчуют” slogans?

    Thank you again for your fascinating perspective.

  • The catastrophic incompetence of Puerto Rico today is a foretaste of what is in store for the Hispanicized USA later in the 21st Century. Natural disasters in Latin America routinely unleash horrors of ineptitude and apathy, because that's how Latinos roll. Good luck, USA.
  • When the US tried setting its Pacific colonies free back in the 80s, one (Northern Marianas) didn’t want to go, and the other three signed treaties giving them financial aid and nearly-unlimited US visas in exchange for letting the US keep its military bases.

    But at least back then we had Reagan’s relatively hard-headed State Department dictating the content of the treaties. (Palau dragged out the independence negotiations all the way to the Clinton era, but their treaty followed the basic template set by the earlier two.) So there were at least some limits on the newly “independent” countries’ ability to sell citizenship to Chinese and Indians who wanted in on the unlimited US visas deal. Imagine what today’s rotten State Department would “negotiate”.

    Don’t get me wrong, kicking PR out would still be better than the status quo. But probably not by much.

  • With Puerto Rico in the news, I wanted to reiterate something that I'm about the only pundit in America to ever mention: Puerto Rico has unbelievably bad public schools. The federal government has put a fair amount of effort into adapting and validating its NAEP school achievement test for the special challenges of Puerto Rico's...
  • @Rob McX
    Why on earth does the US keep PR as a territory, with its inhabitants enjoying full citizenship and the financial support of American taxpayers? It could locate military bases there without paying that huge cost.

    Replies: @Alfa158, @El Dato, @J. Dart, @AnotherDad

    Sorry for sounding like a broken record (I already ranted about this on the other PR thread), but the last time the US tried to cut some colonies loose, we got stuck with Compacts of Free Association where we still had to let their citizens in without limits and even keep on giving them foreign aid if they stayed at home and welfare if they moved to the US.

    The only saving grace was that those were little Pacific islands with low five-digit populations, but Hawaii was still spending over a hundred million dollars just on health care for them back in the 2000s until Linda Lingle won that Hail Mary victory in the Ninth Circuit and actually managed to cut back on the bennies.

    • Replies: @anon
    @J. Dart

    If the US got stuck with such a raw deal it was only because it allowed itself to be taken advantage of.

  • From The Atlantic in its pre-clickbait days: The Other Underclass Most people think of inner-city poverty as a black phenomenon. But it is also alarmingly high among Puerto Ricans, the worst-off ethnic group in the country--even though Puerto Rico itself has made great progress against poverty and there is a growing Puerto Rican middle-class on...
  • @VivaLaMigra
    Too late to give PR "independence" simply b/c anyone descended from the current population can claim US citizenship. So no clean break will ever be possible. Pity, b/c the sole reason for granting citizenship to the islanders in 1917 was to make them eligible for Woodrow Wilson's draft, for a war we should have stayed out of.

    Replies: @J. Dart

    Too late to give PR “independence” simply b/c anyone descended from the current population can claim US citizenship.

    Rogers v. Bellei affirmed that Congress has the power to revoke US citizenship which arises solely from statute. So in theory we can at least make sure that the ones who stayed in Puerto Rico don’t get to keep their US citizenship.

    Of course, in practice the current Supreme Court would probably just throw the Bellei precedent out the window and rule that the Constitution guarantees citizenship to everyone on the island, or maybe everyone on the planet, due to mysterious penumbras and emanations visible only to Harvard and Yale Law grads.

    We need to divorce PR, but I want a divorce negotiated by a competent divorce lawyer. Instead today’s diplomats and judges would roll over and surrender the house and car and perpetual alimony payments instead.

  • Pnin is calculating that if Harvard simply selected admittees randomly among the top 10% of its applicants (as measured on test scores and high school GPA) then - the Asian share at Harvard would rise from 24.9% to 51.7%, - the white share would drop slightly from 37.6% to 35.5%, - the Hispanic share would...
  • @Ben Kurtz
    @Jefferson

    I meant private schools founded by Asians for Asians. Ideally named after some Asian guy. Not an existing public school heavily populated by Asian newcomers, like CUNY was heavily populated by Jews in the early 20th century.

    I'm not aware of any, but I'm willing to take suggestions.

    Replies: @Lurker, @J. Dart

    I meant private schools founded by Asians for Asians.

    Soka University of America is probably the closest thing to what you’re thinking of. Founded by a huge Buddhist organization from Japan. Tied for 22nd-best liberal arts college in US News & World Report. But still far too small and uninfluential to be called an “elite university” in the same sense as, say, Brandeis.

    From stumbling around on Google & Wikipedia I noticed two other Asian-founded educational institutions (University of the West & Dharma Realm Buddhist University) apparently following the same model of getting funding from a wealthy Buddhist sect in Asia and setting up shop in California where there’s always a steady supply of Asian immigrants.

    Everything else I could find was an ESL school, a vocational college, or a blatant visa mill.

  • Adapted from the latest Radio Derb, availableexclusively on VDARE.com Adding to the stock of public merriment this week was Ilhan Omar, the dimwitted Democrat Representative from Minnesota's 5th District. Ms. Omar has been rather free with remarks about how Jews are too fond of money, use their money for disproportionate influence in our politics, have...
  • @James N. Kennett

    We should outlaw dual citizenship.
     
    One problem is that some countries' citizenship cannot really be renounced (the UK used to be in that category, and maybe still is). Another problem is that anyone who is born Jewish or has had Orthodox Jewish conversion is automatically entitled to Israeli citizenship.

    The idea that one can be purely American with no other citizenship is a legalistic notion, rather than a practical one.

    Replies: @Fidelios Automata, @J. Dart

    One problem is that some countries’ citizenship cannot really be renounced (the UK used to be in that category, and maybe still is).

    UK hasn’t been for over a century. See Section 14 of the British Nationality and Status of Aliens Act 1914. In fact these days nearly all countries allow for renunciation of citizenship by their overseas citizens, though some will make you finish military service or pay enormous fees first.

    You may be thinking of the fact that many countries used to (but largely no longer do) accept that naturalization in the US or some other country automatically terminates the citizenship of the original country. For example in the UK, the 1914 Act recognized that principle (in Section 13) but the British Nationality Act 1948 did not, nor the current (1981) Act.

    India and China still adhere to that principle, but many others have abandoned it. (e.g. Mexico in 1998, Denmark in 2014). Incidentally, the U.S. is among the abandoners; see Vance v. Terrazas and 22 CFR 50.40.

    So the current position of the UK government is that Mr. Derbyshire remains a British citizen (the term “British subject” is no longer used in the law) until he proactively sends them the red tape to terminate citizenship, and a significant chunk of change to stamp the forms. This recently caused problems for a large number of Australian legislators.

    • Replies: @James N. Kennett
    @J. Dart

    Interesting, I didn't know that.

    However, I read some years ago that, if you were born in the UK to British parents, the British authorities will always let you regain your British nationality. This information might not be correct, and even if it is true it might be a matter of custom rather than legislation.

  • From Bloomberg and Yahoo News: Here's the Oath of Allegiance this guy swore when he became a U.S. citizen: Of course, this oath, while still given, has been more or less of a legal dead letter since the Warren Court's 1967 decision in the case of Afroyim v. Rusk, in which the Supreme Court ruled,...
  • @Flip
    A Jewish co-worker said to me once that the court ruled the way it did so American Jews could be Israelis without losing their American citizenship in case Israel didn't work out, and others are now benefiting. I've known two Brits who got US citizenship and still have UK passports as well.

    Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose, @J. Dart

    A Jewish co-worker said to me once that the court ruled the way it did so American Jews could be Israelis without losing their American citizenship in case Israel didn’t work out, and others are now benefiting.

    Even before the Afroyim case, the U.S. government had a specific policy that Israeli citizenship acquired by aliyah was “involuntary” and thus didn’t trigger the provision of 8 USC 1481(a)(1) stating that you lost citizenship by obtaining naturalization in a foreign state upon your own application.

    It got to the point that in 2012, a guy who made aliyah and DIDN’T want to keep his U.S. citizenship had to sue the feds twice to get them off his back

    https://www.leagle.com/decision/infco20120612170

  • The IMF has released new GDP (PPP) estimates based on the latest International Comparison Program, where price levels are compared relative to the base year 2017 (the previous such survey was in 2011). There were some notable changes (h/t commenter Annatar for many of the observations): China dropped by 18% from $21.0k to $17.2, this...
  • Though the Wikipedia page, as well as the archived Wikipedia page from a few days ago before the update, is perhaps more convenient.

    The diff of the edit which updated the 2019 rankings to the 2020 forecast is probably the easiest way to compare: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28PPP%29_per_capita&type=revision&diff=983465936&oldid=982705335

    Anyway, after some edit warring, the Wikipedia page is back to using the 2019 rankings again.

  • Well, good for Snowden on making use of Russia's reformed citizenship laws, which as of April 2020 no longer obligate you to give up your previous citizenship in return for a Russian one. It also legally rules out the possibility of Russia extraditing him back to the US, remote as the possibility may be right...
  • @Mikael_
    Good to see Edward finally accepting reality, only wonders me what took him so long.
    But doesn't the US cancel your citizenship if you deliberately take on another one? Whatever.

    All the best for his forming family!

    Replies: @fnn, @AnonFromTN, @J. Dart

    But doesn’t the US cancel your citizenship if you deliberately take on another one?

    Like so much of the America that people remember from the 1950s, not anymore.

    In 1940 Congress drew up a list of actions which, if you did any of them, then the State Department could cancel your citizenship: foreign military service, foreign naturalization, foreign oath of allegiance, etc. In the 1960s the Supremes started striking items off the list (see e.g. Afroyim v. Rusk), and then in 1980 (Vance v. Terrazas) they invented the concept of “specific intent” to give up citizenship and said that State had to investigate every case and consider all the evidence: not just evidence that the person did one of those actions, but their whole mental attitude towards US citizenship.

    Back then, most Americans who’d moved abroad and applied to naturalize in another country (usually Canada or Australia) still thought loss of citizenship was automatic anyway. So even if State didn’t investigate, they assumed they were no longer US citizens, and if they got a letter from State they didn’t fight it. But enough sued the State Department that it started to cost them too much employee time, so in 1990 they quietly adopted the policy of refusing to investigate “specific intent”, except when a person shows up at a consulate and demands an investigation of their own “specific intent”. That effectively ended enforcement of any prohibition against dual citizenship.

    • Replies: @another anon
    @J. Dart


    Like so much of the America that people remember from the 1950s, not anymore.
     
    Exactly. General public perceptions of foreign countries are usually 50-60 years out of date.
    See how people all over the world still see United States as "land of freedom" "land of racism" "land of lynching" "land of highest living standard in the world" "land of unlimited opportunity" etc.
    All stereotypes accurate in the past, but long obsolete by now.

    In 1940 Congress drew up a list of actions which, if you did any of them, then the State Department could cancel your citizenship: foreign military service, foreign naturalization, foreign oath of allegiance, etc. In the 1960s the Supremes started striking items off the list (see e.g. Afroyim v. Rusk), and then in 1980 (Vance v. Terrazas) they invented the concept of “specific intent” to give up citizenship and said that State had to investigate every case and consider all the evidence: not just evidence that the person did one of those actions, but their whole mental attitude towards US citizenship.
     
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ef/Beys_Afroyim_with_son.jpg

    Yea. If you are Americans, give big thanks to Mr. Beys Afroyim, the hero who made you free. You are not anymore mice caught in trap that can spring at any moment, but free birds that can fly whenewer they want - if you make the effort needed to get another passport - and it is easier and more affordable you think.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/20/style/golden-visa-second-passport-dual-citizenship.html

    The New American Status Symbol? A Second Passport
    Many U.S. citizens whose families immigrated from Europe are eligible, and the pandemic has caused an uptick in applications.

    See my comment at the ass end of some boring Caucasian thread no one will ever read, lots of typing and link posting time wasted :-)

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/habbening-armenia-azerbaijan-close-to-war/#comment-4197184

    Replies: @Not Raul

  • In a previous discussion thread a question about the racial dimension of homelessness. Here are the US rates per 10,000 people by race as of 2019: Men comprise 70% of the US homeless population. As the tragic Pacific Islander figure suggests, Hawaii has the highest rate of homelessness in the country. At the risk of...
  • Anyone have an idea how much of the Pacific Islander homelessness in Hawaii is actual Hawaiians, and how much is Compact of Free Association “unlimited visas for Micronesians” types who should be deported as public charges (but mysteriously it never happens)?

  • From the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel: Two teens, 15 and 17, charged with homicide in beating, assault of woman in Washington Park by Sarah Volpenhein, Feb. 9, 2021 Two teenage boys were charged with homicide in the fatal beating of a 36-year-old woman at Washington Park last year. Kamare R. Lewis, 17, and Kevin T. Spencer...
  • @Jack D
    @Hypnotoad666


    But the Hmong were all the commandos who fought for us. They might not be randomly selected either.
     
    The former (politically incorrect) name for the Hmong was "Hill Tribesmen". They were primitive people who lived up in the mountains and fought with any outsider who came into their territory. Sort of like the Vietnamese version of Afghans or Hillbillies. They definitely don't fit the "model minority" stereotype in the US. These were people who were rural and illiterate and transitioning to urban life was hard for them. It made no sense to put them in Minneapolis except that the Lutheran Church had a contract to do refugee services.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @J. Dart, @Known Fact

    These were people who were rural and illiterate and transitioning to urban life was hard for them. It made no sense to put them in Minneapolis

    Yeah, the French resettled their Hmong refugees in the jungles of French Guiana, which seems to have worked out somewhat better:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3498056.stm

    https://uk.news.yahoo.com/laos-french-guiana-story-hmong-191201752.html

  • As perhaps most now know, China is preparing a digital currency with which it intends to replace cash entirely, and other countries, including the US, are considering the idea. Conservatives and libertarians will shriek, pull their hair, and turn blue at the idea, perhaps with good reason—which doesn’t matter since it is going to happen...
  • @meamjojo

    Visa and your bank record every purchase you make with a credit card, time, place and amount
     
    Yes, BUT they don't know WHAT you are buying.

    Replies: @J. Dart

    Yes, BUT they don’t know WHAT you are buying.

    For now.

    On the backend Visa & Mastercard already have all the infrastructure for receiving the information about what you’re buying. It’s one of the pieces of data that a business has to send to qualify for Level 3 Credit Card Processing, which is already very widespread in business-to-business transactions. In exchange for all the extra data, the credit card company shaves a few tenths of a percent off the interchange rates (the fee they charge the merchant for processing the credit card).

    Dunno when it’ll start showing up in business-to-consumer transactions but I won’t be surprised when it happens.