RSSGood analysis of Dershowitz’s methods. He relies on people not looking up sources and giving himself plausible deniability.
It's pilpul - or, to give it a more mundane name, bullshit (albeit in the very specific sense used by Harry Frankfurter in "On Bullshit").
Good analysis of Dershowitz’s methods. He relies on people not looking up sources and giving himself plausible deniability.
But the point of the article is surely that Dersh has no right to blatantly misrepresent and smear his accusers and grant effective immunity to himself on account of being Jewish.
The article doesn’t take a position on these matters – it merely points out that Alan Dershowitz lied about and smeared Farmer and that he has a demonstrable history of accusing people who simply disagree with him (Jewish and non-Jewish) of anti-Semitism. It is surely right to point out that he or anyone else has not right to do this. If the girls are lying let a court decide – but Dershowitz telling lies won’t help anyone.
1. What Dershowitz says, is no different than what lawyers and journalists do daily - misquote and take things out of context. Trump`s "grab em by the pussy" is a prime example of that.
The article doesn’t take a position on these matters – it merely points out that Alan Dershowitz lied about and smeared Farmer and that he has a demonstrable history of accusing people who simply disagree with him (Jewish and non-Jewish) of anti-Semitism.
1. What Dershowitz says, is no different than what lawyers and journalists do daily - misquote and take things out of context. Trump`s "grab em by the pussy" is a prime example of that.
The article doesn’t take a position on these matters – it merely points out that Alan Dershowitz lied about and smeared Farmer and that he has a demonstrable history of accusing people who simply disagree with him (Jewish and non-Jewish) of anti-Semitism.
1. A basic rule of journalistic ethics is to ensure that what you put in quotation marks is what was actually said by the person (especially easy in this case as it’s recorded and publicly available). That journalists and lawyers show scant regard for truth on a regular basis is surely no defence. Moreover, Dershowitz complains the loudest when he says he has been misquoted and insists that journalists and lawyers respect basic ethics in their fields.
2. The article demonstrates that Dershowitz misled – and deliberately misleading people at least beyond a certain point is one way of lying. This is especially the case when we look at what he did by removing “For a long time”, deliberately changing the entire meaning of the quote. It is the kind of deliberate untruth that courts frequently count as a ‘lie’.
3. Nowhere does the article assume the truth of all Farmer is saying and there are in fact some cautious phrases here and there (“alleged” more than once “whatever one makes of Farmer’s claims”)- the focus is more on Dershowitz’s dishonest rendering of her words. It’s actually quite non-committal over the question of Dershowitz’s innocence or guilt, though it does note that if he can dismiss witnesses on account of their alleged vices, then it is open for others to question his reliability given his dishonesty, as shown both in the article and via many other sources.
Don’t disagree re evidence. But AD made specific claims about a publicly available interview. These were deliberately misleading and defamatory. This was demonstrated in the article. As regards Farmer’s statements – agreed – who knows whether she is telling the truth or not. Hence the need for these issues to be thrashed out in court, challenged by AD and others etc. But if one limits oneself to what can currently be demonstrated then AD’s assertions can be shown to be deliberately misleading in a way Farmer’s can’t (at least with regard to what is publicly accessible at this point). All you can say so far is that we need to hear more re Farmer’s claims (e.g. what she means by ‘met’ etc. which you are right about).
which is why I stated that what Dersh has done is accepted as normal, unless it runs counter to the media narrative. In this case, the media narrative is going to hang him out to dry, but leave Jews untouched.My only "support" for Dersh is that the media has already tried and convicted him, Maxwell, and others, when, other than statements by women making allegations, there is no hard evidence, only inference.Replies: @Alden, @Art, @Alden
At some point, all Jews under attack play the “J card”. It is no different than visible minorities screaming screaming “racism” when things are not going their way.
The evidence was collected between 2004-2006 by the Palm Beach Police Department, New York City PD and the FBI.
Police listen to allegations, then do a preliminary investigation. A decision is made to either drop the matter because no evidence if found, or continue the evidence until indictable evidence is found.
In the cases of Epstein and Maxwell, plenty of indictable evidence was found. In the case of Dershowitz indictable evidence has not been found. Such evidence may or may not yet be found.
You’re just another creepy old pervert like Epstein who thinks 14 year old girls should be available to you. That’s why you are defending the molesters of underage minors.
I notice that Harvard has recently honoured Alan Dershowitz. Aside from the examples of dishonesty and sloppiness outlined and referred to in this article, can anyone – ANYONE, actually point me to his legal scholarship (papers in journals, original legal scholarship etc.). I haven’t been able to track down anything and on his website under ‘Scholarly Writings’ are journalistic hit pieces written for the Gatestone Institute https://theintercept.com/2018/03/23/gatestone-institute-john-bolton-chairs-an-actual-fake-news-publisher-infamous-for-spreading-anti-muslim-hate/ . Do write here if you can find anything – surely Harvard is supposed to have SOME strandards!
Robert Fisk on Dershowitz and others:
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-soft-words-and-hard-questions-6096003.html
Funny how Dershowitz never seems to retract any of his disgusting slurs against people, even when it can be conclusively shown that they are nothing but slurs. https://www.meforum.org/campus-watch/11227/dershowitz-v-finkelstein Here is a link of Finkelstein confronting him in a restaurant about one of them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktlBCXrZXHE
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Hm, I harassed Gilad on Facebook pointing out there’s only around 60 percent fully vaccinated in Israel and around 90 percent taking at least one jab. But when looking at hospitalized number of vaccinated having in mind what I read recently that the reduction of needed hospitalization goes from just 96 percent to 94 if leaving out second jab it still looks fishy. Perhaps it’s about the time between the only jab and the infection being the culprit? Iv’e seen some Israeli study trying that approach of analysis. Nice graphs and all. A follow up from Gilad would be nice.
We were only there to document the effect” also before that USS Liberty and Lavon affair. US also has it in then considering operation northwood. Lucky Silversteins meeting to the dermatologist is another clue.