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    A couple of years ago I happened to be reading the World War II memoirs of Sisley Huddleston, an American journalist living in France. Although long since forgotten, Huddleston had spent decades as one of our most prominent foreign correspondents, and dozens of his major articles had appeared in The Atlantic Monthly, The New Republic,...
  • @Ron Unz
    @Colin Wright


    Here we go: the contemporary reference to Operation Pike: ‘Baku, or, The Map Game,’ by A.P. Herbert....

    Refrain: I’m all for some bombs on Baku,
    and, of course, a few bombs on Batum.


    Quoted in Alistair Horne, To Lose a Battle.
     
    Well, I never claimed the plans to attack the Soviets were totally secret at the time, especially since there was widespread discussion of military intervention in support of Finland. So it's hardly surprising that gossip got around and some skeptical MP penned a few verses about it, quickly classified "secret":

    http://languish.org/forums/index.php?topic=603.0

    Moreover, after the Germans captured all the French documents in 1940, they published them, and tried, apparently without much success, to get the media to cover it. Huddleston seemed to assume that knowledgeable people were all aware of it in 1952.

    My argument is that for the half-century that followed, it almost totally disappeared from awareness. Of the tens of millions of pages of WWII books written, you've located one obscure 1969 book that devoted three sentences plus a few lines of verse to the topic. Maybe that's it...

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @German_reader, @utu, @Hector Ramon

    There is nothing at all secret about the various Allied plans hatched during the Phoney War to attack the Soviet Union. In my small collection of military history books I have been able to find 4 seperate references beyond Alistair Horne in a few minutes. To whit:

    1940 The Fall of France General Andre Beaufre, Cassell 1967 (first published in French in 1965) p168-169

    But what kind of adventure were we trying to get mixed up in? Under pressure of public opinion, all sorts of extravagant plans were hatched: Baku was to be bombed by aircraft based on Syria;

    General Beaufre, a staff officer in 1940, reaches the same conclusion as Mr Unz:

    ….the payoff came from the Scandanavians who refused to allow our expeditionary forces to cross their territory. It is curious today to think that the eventual defeat of Germany may have descended from this decision that at the time caused such distress in France.

    The Collapse of the Third Republic: The Fall of France in 1940 William L Shirer, Pan paperback 1972 (first published 1969) p613-617

    Daladier had launched the idea on January 19th, 1940, when he instructed General Gamelin and Admiral Darlan to prepare a study ‘on an eventual intervention to destroy Russian oil’

    Mr Shirer relates that Soviet awareness of Anglo-French plans to attack them may have prompted them to make peace with the Finns when they did.

    History of the Second World War B.H. Liddell Hart, Book Club Associates ed 1973 (First published Cassell 1970) p33-34

    After the fall of France, the Germans captured the files of the French High Command – and published a collection of sensational documents from them.
    These showed how the Allied chiefs had spent the winter in comtemplating offensive plans all around the circle – for striking at Germany’s rear flank through Norway, Sweden, and Finland; for striking at the Ruhr through Belgium; for striking at her remote eastern flank through Greece and the Balkans; for cutting off her loan-source of petrol supply by striking at Russia’s great oilfields in the Caucasus. It was a wonderful collection of fantasies – the vain imaginings of Allied leaders, living in a dream-world until the cold douche of Hitler’s own offensive awoke them.

    Blood, Tears and Folly Len Deighton, Pimlico ed 1995 (First published 1993) p173

    The essence of Anglo-French policy in these days of what an American journalist called a Phoney War, and Chamberlain termed Twilight War, was to go and fight somewhere else. The French proposed schemes for fighting in south-east Europe and wanted to bomb Russian oil wells in the Caucasus. Fortunately these crackpot ideas came to nothing.

    The Allied plans to bomb Baku are often mentioned in histories of Operation Barbarossa as British high altitude photo-reconnaissance photos of the Caucasus were also captured by the Germans in 1940. The British methods were a revelation to the Germans and instrumental in their own high altitude photo-reconnaissance efforts in the leadup to Barbarossa.

    The reason Baku couldn’t be bombed from Mosul is that the British Mandate and hence control over Iraq had ended in 1932. By treaty the RAF were allowed two bases (used for training) and the British were allowed right of passage in time of war. They were not allowed to use Iraq as a base to start a war with the Soviet Union.

    As you can see all of the above books which mention the Allied proposals to attack the Soviet Union are by well known authors and are standard works on the period.

    I believe that Mr Unz did in fact read references to these proposals at some stage but the signifigance of what are literally historical footnotes did not occur to him at the time. It is only with his new found skepticism that he has looked at events with a new perspective. I had a similar experience with General Beaufre’s book above. He spends 56 pages describing his part in the “Mission to Moscow” which was the Allied attempt to reach an agreement on a possible anti-Nazi pact with the Soviet Union in the leadup to World War Two. Historically the Nazis swooped in at the last minute and signed the German-Soviet pact which allowed Germany to proceed with the invasion of Poland. What I had not realised until General Beaufre spelled it out for me is that the Allies had no intentions of doing a deal with the Soviet Union. Their whole mission was a cynical attempt to keep the Soviet Union in play as a counterweight to Germany and spin out the negociations until the 1939 campaigning season was over. Thereby preventing an invasion of Poland in 1939.

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
    @Hector Ramon

    Please comment much more often.


    I believe that Mr Unz did in fact read references to these proposals at some stage but the signifigance of what are literally historical footnotes did not occur to him at the time. It is only with his new found skepticism that he has looked at events with a new perspective. I had a similar experience
     
    It's also happened to me, quite a lot, and I agree that a changing perspective brings new concepts into consciousness. It's fascinating but also humbling.


    That idea is one of the reasons I stronlgy oppose granting any human being much power over others. There're are way too many factors to consider to really do justice if that were even a consideration.
  • @Ron Unz
    @Colin Wright


    Before he ran afoul of the machine, Irving was an interesting writer — but not so much an ‘authority’ as the author of rather iconoclastic if valuable works...Actually, I’d tend to give him about a B+.
     
    Well, so says you. But your credibility on history is now just about zero in my eyes, annihilated simply by some of your recent remarks in this thread alone. This directly relates to the opening points of my article, so let me recapitulate.

    (1) It is an undeniable historical reality that in early 1940 the Allies were preparing to launch the largest strategic bombing campaign in world history against the then-neutral Soviet Union, planning to totally destroy the Baku oil fields, the world's most productive.

    (2) This is a pretty big deal and obviously would have had a rather decisive impact on World War II.

    (3) I'm claiming that this gigantic story was almost totally covered up for six decades by virtually all Western historians and journalists, receiving only infinitesimal coverage in the tens of millions of pages of in World War II books. This blackout occurred although the facts were pretty well known at the time and for some years afterward, especially since the Germans had captured and published the secret documents in 1941.

    (4) Absolutely Not!, you say, there was no "conspiracy of silence" by Western historians to hide the reality of the planned Allied attack on the USSR. As definitive proof, you cite a 1969 book by Alistair Horne, that gives the topic three(!) full sentences across its 736 pages. Boy oh boy, those three sentences must have really burned themselves into your mind given that you apparently remember them long after having read the book.

    (5) But here's something interesting. If you search Google Books for "Baku bombing 1940," the first relevant hit (and the second hit overall) is the exact same Alistair Horne book you mention. What a totally remarkable coincidence!!!

    https://www.google.com/search?q=Baku+bombing+1940&tbm=bks&prmd=inv&source=lnt&tbs=cdr:1,cd_min:1900,cd_max:1999

    (6) Look, it seems pretty likely to me that you're just some sort of dishonest "troll" pretending to have an extensive knowledge of history by just Googling lots of things and maybe also consulting Wikipedia. So why should your opinion count for anything at all? Given how frequently you comment, you might possibly even be a paid "troll" sent here to clutter up our comment-threads.

    (7) Actually, your ridiculous behavior reminds me quite a bit of that "Andrew Mathis" fellow, who was some sort of history-hoaxer who occasionally used to hang around here. So maybe you're also some sort of history-hoaxer, and it wouldn't totally surprise me if you're actually a friend of his.

    Replies: @Wizard of Oz, @Johnny Rico, @utu, @Colin Wright, @Jacques Sheete, @CanSpeccy, @Hector Ramon

    Mr Unz now that you have pursued Mr Wright to the utmost ends of this thread and administered a sound thrashing to the bounder, might I draw your attention to comment 704.

    I provided 4 book references to an air attack on Baku or the Caucausus over a period of 30 years since 1965 with page numbers and quotations. To which I can add, since you seem very sceptical:

    To Lose a Battle: France 1940 Alastair Horne, Macmillan 1969, p118

    The War in The West: Germany Ascendant 1939-1941 James Holland, Corgi 2016 (First published 2015) p229

    Operation Barbarossa Robert Kirchubel, Osprey 2013, pp 24-25

    No dastardly Googling was involved in finding these references just my evil finger perusing book indexes. This is just books from my modest collection that refer specifically to an air attack on Baku or the Caucausus by the Western allies. If I were to broaden the scope to include an Allied expedition to Finland which would also have started a war with Russia I have many more books just in my collection. I would hazard a guess that you could find a lot more references in a major collection.

    To put it simply if you read general histories of World War 2 such as Liddell Hart (1970), Deighton (1993), or Holland (2015) you will find out about these Allied plans to attack Russia. If you read in depth on the 1940 French campaign and consult standard works like Beaufre, Shirer, or Horne you will find them discussed in some detail.

    In relation to your points:

    1. It is a stretch to call the proposed air attack on Baku the largest strategic bombing campaign in world history at that time either in conception or likely results. As Horne (p118) asks “How with the absurdly small bomber potential then available to both Britain and France, it was imagined that any raid on the Baku oil-wells could have caused more than a pin-prick is hard to imagine.”

    2. Any form of Allied military action that resulted in war with Russia would have been a pretty big deal. An air attack on Baku was less likely at that time than an expeditionary force being sent to Finland. Beaufre, Horne and Shirer all make this point.

    3. Plans for an air attack on Baku was not a gigantic story and it was not covered up. As my references show it is an historical footnote that has been in plain view for anyone that cared to look since the German’s first revealed it in 1940. You might legitimately ask why it did not get more attention earlier than Osborn’s specialised monograph Operation Pike in 2000? Well if the key isue is a hypothetical or counter-factual what if war between the Western Allies of 1940 and Russia, then the proposed Allied expeditionary force going to Finland to attack the Russians is a quite sufficient spark. The air attack on Baku is an interesting piece of trivia that has always been overshadowed by Finland as a potential cause of war betwen the Allies and Russia. It belongs in the same category as hypothetical plans by the Germans to invade Switzerland, or the Allies trying to get Turkey to declare war on Germany. The other reason for a lack of attention to the Baku operation is simply historical inertia. Most history books tend to just rehash existing material and existing opinions. It is only the occasional book such as Adam Tooze’s The Wages of Destruction that goes back to the source material and critically re-examines the received wisdom. There has also been a profound aversion on the part of professional historians to consider counterfactual history such as this attack on Baku eg E.H. Carr: ‘counterfactual’ history is a mere ‘parlour game’, a red herring’ And how much attention should one pay to such self-evidently absurd plans as the expeditionary force to Finland or the air attack on Baku? Alistair Horne quotes a Brtish MP Colonel Josiah Wedgwood remarking in the Commons on the Finland expedition: ‘It would have been the maddest military adventure upon which this country had ever embarked. If you look in Hansard, Colonel Wedgwood also remarked, “It is an amazing idea that in the middle of a war with Hitler we should gratuitously take on another war with Russia.” That was the opinion then, and that has been the opnion of every historian who has looked at these plans since. Were they wrong?

    4. If you include all the hypothetical military operations that might have led to war between the Allies and Russia, Horne spends 4 pages out of 523 pages of text (hardback edition). Shirer spends 14 pages out of 1092 (paperback). Horne summarises the range of operations and the (mostly) French motivation for them very well. It is hard to see what more he could profitably have added. ‘ Indeed Shirer’s more detailed and rigorous account is more than enough. I was certainly in no hurry to read more French history after finishing The Collapse of the Third Republic!

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    @Hector Ramon

    I infer that you would not expect to find, even in the most complete examination of documents, that the Germans letting Stalin know about the French documents they had captured was a critical cause of his not trusting the British (or anyone). Stalin was given to trusting anyone.

    If you agree, I wonder if you also agree that there appears to have been an almost ludicrous mismatch between Stalin's belief that Hitler wouldn't't attack the Soviet Union until he had finished off the British and Hitler's view (per the David Irving account) that attacking Britain made no sense and was entirely unnecessary. (because of bombing, but especially U boats) but that the Soviet Union needed to be dealt with quickly as it was hard to tell when it might get its act together and what the consequence would be when it did.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @CanSpeccy

    , @CanSpeccy
    @Hector Ramon

    Re: contemporary comment in Parliament by Colonel Wedgwood:


    It is an amazing idea that in the middle of a war with Hitler we should gratuitously take on another war with Russia.
     
    Exactly.

    Germany, in occupation of, or in alliance with, virtually all of Europe from the outskirts of Leningrad to the Pyrenees was the enemy bombing England and attacking Britain's maritime supply lines. Russia was in a death struggle with Germany. Only, therefore, a lunatic British administration would have attacked Russia.
    , @Ron Unz
    @Hector Ramon


    I provided 4 book references to an air attack on Baku or the Caucausus over a period of 30 years since 1965 with page numbers and quotations.
     
    Sure, let me summarize those passages you managed to locate:

    Andre Beaufre, 1967: Half a sentence---ten words---across 215 pages.

    William Shirer, 1972: One sentence, suggesting a completely hypothetical plan, across 1084 pages.

    Liddell Hart, 1970: A quarter of a sentence---seventeen words---suggesting a completely hypothetical plan, across 766 pages.

    Len Deighton, 1995: Half a sentence---nine words---suggesting a completely hypothetical plan, across 653 pages.

    I certainly don't doubt that across the tens of millions of pages of Western World War II histories published in the six decades after 1940, you might be able to locate at least a total of twenty or thirty sentences vaguely referring to Operation Pike, mostly as a mere hypothetical. I'd regard that as quite inadequate and indicative of a "cover-up" but I suppose others might disagree.

    I'd like to point out it could be argued that your findings actually strengthen my case by demonstrating that at least a number of prominent historians were certainly *aware* of the topic, but still gave it virtually no coverage. By contrast, Huddleston in 1952 (and the most recent writers) have correctly pointed out it almost certainly would have ensured an Allied defeat in WWII, which seems a pretty big deal. And the disastrous stupidity of the plan---at least in hindsight!---obviously explains why the Western historians covered it up.

    It is a stretch to call the proposed air attack on Baku the largest strategic bombing campaign in world history at that time either in conception or likely results.
     
    Okay, then, go ahead and give us the name of a larger one.

    The Allied strategists were firmly---if quite possibly incorrectly---convinced that the many weeks of sustained air attack they planned would totally destroy the Baku oil fields, the most productive in the world, and possibly induce a Soviet famine that would bring down Stalin's regime. Whether or not they were correct is immaterial.

    Replies: @Oemikitlob, @Wizard of Oz

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  • I learned three things about New Zealand today: 1) Its retail outlets known as "dairies," which appear to be mostly run by South Asians, are suffering a rash of robberies by unidentified perps. 2) The Labour government proposes to fight back by installing "fog cannons" in the stores (you can watch one in action in...
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    @John Derbyshire

    Fair enough.

    Overall, I found New Zealand resembled US politics the most. (Australia resembles a US where the AFL-CIO wasn’t crushed by Clinton Democrats and unions are still somewhat powerful.)

    There are many spooky parallels on culture and race. When a TV commercial addresses that 1 out of 4 New Zealand children go hungry every night the National/Republicans roll their eyes (it’s not white children) while Labor/Democrats want increased taxes (to fund more social service jobs for themselves.)

    New Zealand also had a Nixon-like character in office roughly during the same time period named Robert Muldoon.

    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/e6/3c/51/e63c51f7d0eccd322296a7c968489542--prime-minister-new-zealand.jpg

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Muldoon

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    I’ve always wondered if this mainly had to do with New Zealand and the US sharing a common language (English) or the US economically annexing the British Empire after World War II. With the US dollar replacing Sterling as the world reserve currency.

    P.S. You have any favorite histories on the British Empire?

    Replies: @Hector Ramon

    Another Kiwi here.

    The old joke about Rob Muldoon was “Rob Muldoon before he robs you”. That was a reference to high taxes eg 40% Sales tax on music sales.

    The other major target of opportunist thieves after cigarettes here is petrol stations. They have had bank teller type windows, panic rooms and fog cannons for some time so that has pushed robbers towards softer targets like corner dairies. A lot of the robbers are kids or teenagers hence the lack of armaments. In terms of thwarted robbers targetting random passers by, there are very few people out and about in most NZ suburbs at any hour of the day. The younger robbers are also mostly making their attempts in their own areas so trying to rob the other welfare beneficiaries is not going to net much and also raise the risk of them being recognised.

    The area of crime here that sees more guns is, not surprisingly, drugs. Gangs are much more involved both as wholesale suppliers, and retail, running “tinny houses” (drugs wrapped in tinfoil = tinnies).

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @Hector Ramon


    That was a reference to high taxes eg 40% Sales tax on music sales.
     
    Ouch!
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    @SafeNow

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    Supposedly America was settle by Puritans, and Australia by convicts. Has anyone studied the percentage of con men transported here? Or did it develop here through some mixture of races and environments? Something like con men can be found in literature from the Greeks through Boccaccio, but (like serial killers) it seems to have skyrocketed in recent decades, and centrally in America.

    Replies: @Hector Ramon

    Convicts were only transported to Australia after the American Revolution removed America as the preferred dumping ground. According to this article on Gizmodo, between 1718 and 1788 up to 10% of migrants to America were British convicts.

    https://paleofuture.gizmodo.com/britain-sent-thousands-of-its-convicts-to-america-not-1707458418

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    @Hector Ramon

    Georgia was the Australia of the American Colonies.

  • From the New York Times news section on Saturday: It’s More Than Just Tragic’: Ma’Khia Bryant and the Burden of Black Girlhood The fatal shooting of a 16-year-old in Columbus, Ohio, highlights the different standards that young Black girls are held to. By Alisha Haridasani Gupta April 24, 2021, 2:30 p.m. ET “Ma’Khia Bryant was...
  • When caregivers say they have have experience in disarming armed girls there may be some truth in what they are saying. Many years ago at a party at our flat I disarmed a 15 year old girl armed with a large kitchen knife. The girl in question had taken exception to what one of the other 15 year old girls had said to her and sought out our cutlery drawer to arm herself and seek revenge. When I confronted the armed girl I had to make a call: was she full of shit and an ineffectual knife wielder, or was she a real threat? I decided that she was full of shit and took the knife off her (and hid the cutlery drawer) without any problems. It helped that she was a small girl who didn’t look like she knew what she was doing and I knew all our knives were blunt as hell. Everyone involved was white. If she had been a 15 stone girl she may have needed a punch in the face to ensure the upper hand before being disarmed.

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    @Hector Ramon

    Did you even bother to watch the video? The knife-wielding beluga had a full head of steam and was about a nanosecond from plunging her shiv into pinkie's gut. There wasn't enough time to say anything to discourage the attack; it was either shoot and drop the assailant or not shoot and watch pinkie get the shiv in her gut. Next time, speak from a place of reality. Otherwise, step away from your keyboard and let the grownups discuss.

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    @Hector Ramon

    “Caregivers” probably do have experiences to share about all sorts of crazy things. But what is the relevance of that when analyzing the “reasonably prudent police officer”?

    The point is that the NYT writer is trying to squeeze the last drops from this dish rag of a news story to support the BLM/woke narrative. This story is pretty much dead. And will be by the coming week.

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    @Hector Ramon

    Perhaps, but those people (and you as well?) seem unable to recognize the difference between someone holding a knife and someone actively attacking with it.

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  • @StevenotSailer
    @Hector Ramon

    Did you even bother to watch the video? The knife-wielding beluga had a full head of steam and was about a nanosecond from plunging her shiv into pinkie's gut. There wasn't enough time to say anything to discourage the attack; it was either shoot and drop the assailant or not shoot and watch pinkie get the shiv in her gut. Next time, speak from a place of reality. Otherwise, step away from your keyboard and let the grownups discuss.

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    I did watch the video. I think the police officer made the right call in this situation.

    My point was that Steve rejected the idea of disarming a knife wielder out of hand. I am speaking from a point of reality: I have disarmed a knife wielding “girl”. By the same token the father of a psychotic young woman I worked with tried to take a knife off her to stop her harming herself. He was stabbed to death. Then she stabbed everyone else in her parents house and then went next door and stabbed a neighbour and was on her way to stab more people when she was brought down by a police dog. The other stabbing victims all survived. She wasn’t shot and she is currently residing in the secure wing of a mental hospital. That is the kind of experience that might prompt some people to question the outcome here. If you’ve seen people survive knife attacks, you’ve seen knife armed suspects taken down by dogs and you’ve seen caregivers disarm girls making dramatic gestures with knives you might question why this latest girl had to die. Such people may not be reasonable in their expectations but there is some reality behind their stance.

  • @Anon
    Machine guns? Anti-aircraft guns? How do you miss?. Wouldn't an anti-aircraft round take out a whole tent?

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    If Townsville was regarded as a frontline location then the tents would have been erected over dugouts or foxholes. There would probably also be slit trenches in case of air attack. Once the mutineers opened fire the victims would have been able to take cover in these various holes in the ground.

  • For decades, I've been pointing out a little remarked-upon example of black success: the U.S. Army. Blacks tend not to be the big medal-winners in the Army for bravery in combat, but they tend to get a pretty good life out of joining the Army. The blacks in the Army tend not to be a...
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    @theMann

    I'm reading Thackeray's "Vanity Fair" and several of the characters are British Army officers in early 1815 leading up to the Battle of Waterloo. They don't seem to do a lot of drilling to get ready. Mostly they just seem to figure if they are brave on the big day, they'll be mentioned in the dispatches and that's about all that is expected of a British Army officer.

    The Royal Navy, however, demanded a lot more of its officers in effort and competence.

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    Richard Holmes in his history “Redcoats” has a quote that due to the purchasing of commissions British NCOs were “compelled not only to obey the orders, but to instruct in the way of giving orders, a young gentleman who in the division of battle knows no more than a spinster.”
    The British army of the period commissioned a small number of NCOs as officers to be adjutants to handle the paperwork, or to be in charge of drill thereby relieving gentlemen officers of such tiresome work.

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    @Hector Ramon

    Jerry Pournelle liked to tell the anecdote of the British private's question to his sergeant with 18 years service:

    "Sergeant, you teach us everything. What do our officers after only 18 months at Sandhurst teach us?"

    "They teach us how to die."