RSSRoughly there are three types of people in this debate: the believers, the disbelievers, and the confused. In the thread of the original article of April 1, the position of the disbelieves and skeptics was summarized at #1500 and #1561. A similar summary of the position of the believers will be useful for the confused and for the debate in general.
Local democracy, like national democracy, does not work. A large country with thousands of locals democracies is laughable.Replies: @Galan, @Miro23
Local Democracy is hard work but it produces a much more united and happy society.
Local democracy is possible. Depends on the issue. The people/elite of a country must agree as to what issues should be determined at the local level, and what at the national level.
Then you're back to national democracy.
The people/elite of a country must agree as to what issues should be determined at the local level, and what at the national level.
I'm not a Wumao or some other shit connected to the commie government. In fact I'm not even a Chinese nationalist. Instead I'm a NE Asian racial expansionist. Moreover I'm pro-America. So if American authorities track me down they will realize that I'm not a spy for China in any way. Instead I'm just an extremely hateful far-rightist similar to comparable far-rightists in Japan and South Korea. Well maybe they already know that.If WWIII takes place I will just leave for a neutral country in Latin America.
then I’m sure American authorities have caught wind of his act and are now tracking his movements. Of course in this clown’s case movement entails going to the bathroom to take a shit or going to the refrigerator to get a snack and then getting back quickly to continue the 24 hour, non-stop breathless deluge of abject nonsense he deposits on these boards.
This is why we need to send more people into Africa. NE Asian racial power will extend to Sub-Saharan Africa.Replies: @Okechukwu, @Galan
Btw, Keki, China ain’t colonizing shit in Africa. Chinese walk on eggshells in Africa otherwise things like this happen:
You just want to ‘leave for a neutral country in Latin America’? But you were advocating the exterminating of the people of Latin America in an earlier comment of yours. Why would they allow you in? Low IQ? Even animals don’t allow an enemy into their space. Stop eating dogs alive, it is turning you into stupid blood thirsty crazed animal.
Many countries in the world started their journey with negative identities. Examples include: USA, Norway, Netherlands, Austria, Poland, Baltic states, Bangladesh, Finland, Slovakia, and many others. Positive identity requires negative identity. It is sort of dialectical.
Orlov’s discussion of Ukraine is interesting journalism. But his dismissal of Ukraine shows that he is shallow, and ignorant of the dynamics of state formation. His claim that Ukraine speaks Russian and follows Orthodox Christianity and thus not a nation is false. Not all English speaking countries are under the same state; similarly for German, Spanish and Arabic speaking countries.
Yes Ukraine will be better off if it has a good relation with Russia and all its other neighbours. Ideally Ukraine should be neural with respect to the west and Russia. But somehow they are in a mess at present. It seems to me neither the West nor Russia want Ukraine to be neural. Ukrainians are paying for it.
Some Egyptian freemason whose father is an expert on ancient Egyptian occults plans the location and timing of the Eagles landing on the "moon". Nothing to see here.https://www.ancient-code.com/the-moon-landing-and-masonic-ritual/
Farouk El-Baz is an Egyptian American space scientist who worked with NASA to assist in the planning of scientific exploration of the Moon, including the selection of landing sites for the Apollo missions and the training of astronauts in lunar observations and photography.
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The key scientist who helped NASA plan and identify the Moon landing location for Apollo 11 historic moon landing in 1969,
https://listverse.com/2017/07/19/10-masonic-ritual-connections-to-the-apollo-11-moon-landing/
It is believed, that the person who picked all of Apollos landing dates and landing times including Apollo 11 was Farouk El-Baz, his father is also believed to be an expert on ancient Egypt, history and mythology, hmmm… weird?According to Ancient Egyptian believes, ceremonies performed directly under Orion’s belt produce a sacred alignment, which allows humans to communicate directly with Osiris. Apollo 11 had landed at a specific day and a specific time where the three belt stars of Orion were on the horizon. And exactly 33 minutes after landing, Buzz Aldrin, the second man to walk on the Moon, who was a 33 Degree Scottish Rite Freemason was actually performing a ceremony on board the lunar module with Neil Armstrong, He even admitted it, but not completely according to many ufologists. So does it sound weird, moon landing, rituals and ceremonies? Well id does sound a bit odd, but that’s what went on on the moon according to many people.
http://notfromearth.org/connection-moon-landing-masonic-ritual/
Much of the planning of the Apollo 11 mission, in particular the launch window, fell at the feet of a man named Farouk El-Baz. He determined the precise details of the launch and the landing itself, including exactly where and when the astronauts would touch down on the Moon.[1]El-Baz had Masonic links, and his father was an expert in ancient Egyptian rituals. Many Masonic lodges still used elements of these rituals in modern times. When those with an eagle eye on such things studied the details of El-Baz’s work retrospectively, they began to pick up on what they believed were connections to such rituals “hidden in plain sight” within the timings and coordinates of the mission.
http://edkohout.com/mundane/moonlanding.html
In order with what NASA’s database says, they chose the sea of tranquillity preserving its flat surface. However, some researchers claim this site was chosen for another reason.
They say that, as a matter of fact, the moon landing site was elected because specifically on that date, its coordinates arranged straight under Orion’s belt.So, they allegedly selected the landing place by picking the specific date, latitude and longitude first.It is said that the person who elected the landing dates of every Apollo mission was Farouk El-Baz, whose father is an expert on ancient Egypt’s mythology. And you sure are wondering how is this weird or connected? We have the answer you are looking for.Ancient Egyptian followers have a belief that the ceremonies conducted straight under Orion’s belt design a divine order that enables people to talk to Osiris.And Apollo 11 had a moon landing date and time exactly when the three belts stars of Orion were on the range.
http://edkohout.com/mundane/ml006.gifhttp://edkohout.com/mundane/ml010.gifReplies: @Galan, @Erebus
Neil Armstrong set foot on the lunar surface at 10:56:20 PM EDT, after which saying, "One small step for man, one giant leap for mankind." Armstrong's words represented the spirit of the entire Apollo program, as engraved on a plaque attached to the Lunar Module, which he real aloud to a national TV audience:Here men from the planet earth
first set foot on the moon July 1969, A.D.
We came in peace for all mankind.As Armstrong took his large step, back at Washington D.C., the astrology is remarkable, as another mundo square forms with the Galactic Center culminating while the Lunar North Node, ecliptically conjunct the fixed star Markab, rises
What the heck is that? You’re confusing me.
I'm convinced also that EastKekistani is an Indian. No real Chinese person is going to be talking about a "Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere," which from the Japanese point of view meant the enslavement of China. And no real Chinese person is going to be trumpeting the alleged accomplishments of India. Lastly, no real Chinese person is going to camp-out on a site 24/7 disgorging rapid-fire absurdities which can only be interpreted as a campaign to besmirch the image and reputation of China.
I don’t know whether you know it or not there used to be a guy here by the handle Thomn whom every body says is an Indian including Ron Unz but he insists he is white. So this impersonating other nationality behind a pseudonym is not new among Indians. Denk agrees with me this EastKekistani guy is an Indian.
Good decision.
Would the refugees come anyway? No, definitely not in the magnitude that shocked Europe.
The wars on ME of the last thirty years have definitely a qualitative impact on migration. True, migration happens all the time, it is one of the things humans do nonstop since they started shuffling out of Africa millennia ago. But, the discussion is about magnitude and speed.
In the 1970s and 1980s Iraq and Libya attracted immigrants more than sending emigrants. They were similar to what we have now in the Gulf countries. Arabs, Africans, Asians, and even some Europeans migrated to these countries. It is American war supported by NATO and at times by the Russians that produced the millions that were forced out of their homes and villages. It is the push factor more than the pull factor that created the refugee crisis.
I am not writing something that you don’t know. You are knowledgeable, but somehow you blame GPS.
Suppose what PCR is writing here is mostly true. Then what? What are the implications?
A benign implication will be that humanity should avoid wars, and resolve to solve its disagreements peacefully. Strengthen the UN and/or create other institutions that help in this endeavour.
A malign implication is to conclude that not much was wrong with Hitler, and that racism and extreme nationalism is the way to go. This route is wrong for two reasons. The most obvious is moral reason.
The other reason is that it is not clear that Hitler was significantly different from his contemporaries when it comes to racism. It was common to be racist in the 1930s. People looked down on Slavs, Africans, and Asians. They were all considered backward if to differing degrees.
It seems that Hitler’s racism toward the Slavs was a bit stronger not because of some unique and internally generated hatred, but because the condition the Versailles treaty put Germany in. Legitimately or not Germans felt they were unfairly treated and wanted to get back some of the areas given to Poland and Czechoslovakia. They were also afraid of Russia and the Bolsheviks where some Jews became leaders. Germany preparing for war necessary required the demonization of its chosen enemies. That is how war preparation works. You have to hate your enemy. You have to believe there is something wrong with them. Hence the enhanced racism of Hitler.
Hitler’s racism was a tool to conquer territory, racism itself was not the objective. War produces racism, not the other way… mostly.
I assume PCR is routing for the benign implication.
Not just that. About half German-speakers today are Germanized Slavs. That is approximately the land of former DDR (Sovialist Germany under Soviet influence). Pomerania, Prussia, Borussia and numerous other Slavic ethnicities from Slavic toponyms (Berlin also counts from 'birla' - swamp, also Leipzig and Drezden) occupied by Germans with forced germanization (or christianisation of former pagans) of population since IX century and Charlemagne. The hatred to Slavs is a German psychopathological complex of wrong self-identity. That's why Russians with Stalin in charge knew what they did giving Poland chunks of former German (really Slavic ab initio) lands, and creating Eastern Germany. The inhabitants of Eastern Germany were industrious, organized and socially cooperative to much extent than Western Germans, not just because of their socialist doctrine or forced labor. That's all in the blood. That's why Hitler irrationally tried to erase Slavdom into non-existence, to remove existential threat of German dissolution, to preserve and create large German nation.Replies: @Seraphim, @anon
It seems that Hitler’s racism toward the Slavs was a bit stronger not because of some unique and internally generated hatred, but because the condition the Versailles treaty put Germany in.
Correct! Nor was the timing of the two world wars coincidental. The real agenda of the two bloodbaths was the formation of the Zionist state of Israel in 1948, according to Jewish Kabbalistic gematria or numerology.From the date when Ezekiel measured the visionary temple in Ezekiel 40 unto 1948 when Israel became a nation are 1260 plus 1260 years. It happens that 1260 plus 1260 days is an important seven-year period in the Bible, referred to in Rev. 11-13 and elsewhere. (360 days x 7 = 7 years.)
... I would not have allowed the war hawks in Europe to maneuver Germany into WWII (Or WWI, for that matter..) I would not have adopted the Zionist campaign to chase Jews out of Europe, nor to advance the establishment of Israel by implementing such an agenda.
PSThe mark of the Beast “666” is (3 x 6) = 18. Mazel Tov!!!Replies: @Galan
Question:
I was watching Million Dollar Listing, and Jewish people bought a house and kept adding 126 to the price and they said it was for luck. Why?
Top 3 Answers:
1). In Hebrew, each letter also has a numerical value. There’s a system called gematria which looks for patterns/similarities in this. So, for example, the word for “life” in Hebrew is composed of two letters whose numerical value is 18. Hence, things like charitable donations, and, in this case, the purchase price of a house are given in multiples of 18 for good luck.2). 7 times 18 (Chai, meaning life) = 126. Why 7? Seven is one of the greatest numbers in Judaism, representing creation, good fortune and blessing. I too am Jewish.3). Because of Chai. According to the system of gematria, the letters of chai add up to 18 (see “Lamedvavniks” etc.). For this reason, 18 is a lucky number in Judaism, and many Jews give gifts of money in multiples of 18 as a result. 7 x 18 = 126.Cf. Wikipedia, Chai
666/18 = 37 Can you believe that! Let us meditate on it.
I was being facetious man, you take it too seriously.
Does China allow political parties that are independent from the Communist party? Have any of these parties attained some power at the national or local levels? How different are their programs from that of the Communist party?
Apparently you, just like Ron Unz, choose to pretend that Freemasonry is just some insane "conspiracy theory". I have posted numerous photographs of Stalin posing with the Masonic hidden hand signal, as well as articles going into detail about how masonic the Bolshevic Putsch was, and also how masonic the French Jacobin Putsch was too. Ron Unz shadow bans my and others' comments, while you keep your head firmly planted in the sand.
The search for the true motives and events that lead to WW1, and to its continuation WW2, will never produce a logical narrative unless the all-out war against revolutionary Russia , since its inception, is taken into account.
If Freemasonry is secretive how do we know that the ‘hidden hand signal’ in photos belongs to them? Could it just be that the ‘hidden hand signal’ a photo fashion pose of the time?
Are all revolutions of the last few centuries organized by freemasonry? If not which ones are, and which ones are not? Aren’t revolutions caused by socioeconomic conditions?
Agree in general. But would it lead to nuclear war? I mean nuclear war will destroy every ones interests. They have to be crazy to go nuclear to advance their ‘interests’.
China should not lead the world. Neither there should be any other country or nation with ‘Mandate of Heaven’. If there is such a mandate it belongs to humanity. We should eventually have a world government, a confederation of nations, something along the lines of the EU.
The military forces of all countries should merge and establish an integrated world force. This force will be responsible for handling natural disasters, space exploration, and handling local disturbances that are beyond the control of the local police. In addition to global security the world government will be responsible for few things such as handling global environmental problems and international trade. Everything else will be left to national governments.
The current tribal/nationalist fervor need to be countered. If not it will lead to a disastrous war that can destroy life on earth.
Proletarian rebellion will not solve the problem. Last time we had a socialist camp they were at each others throat. They say that the USSR considered nuking communist China. Also the Bolsheviks killed each other like crazy. Capitalism too may not be the basic problem, for it can be regulated, and social democracy is possible. What is now needed is away of regulating destructive competition among countries. We need some form of world government, something like a global EU.
The Messiah is scary being. The Jewish version enslaves and exterminates the goyim. The Christian and Muslim version does the same to Jews. If this is just some story for scary movie one can forget about it. But no, there are a significant section of the followers of the Abrahamic religions who work hard to force the Messiah come soon. They want to translate and force their prediction into reality. That is this Messiah has no independence, he cannot choose when and where to come to. The believers can push him to come as soon as they want. He also must kill and enslave. Very scary. I think this crazy Messiah is already here. It must be one of these: Trump, Netanyahu, Khamenei, Putin, Modi….
Why imagine a murderous Messiah, why not imagine an independent, intelligent and benign one. One that is knowledgeable, smart, wise, compassionate and capable of solving all the mysteries of life in a ways that are satisfactory for each and every being and creation. If God is all powerful he can send us such a Messiah and no one can stop him. If we are free to imagine a crazy Messiah, we are free too to imagine a sane one.
Religion should not be included in platforms of political parties. Ideally the two should not mix. This does not mean all religion is harmful. Religion can be useful. Believers drive spiritual sustenance from it. The rituals of religion can help organise individual lives. Religion can teach honesty, integrity, forgiveness, and compassion. These are good social values that can help politics function properly. But, political, economic, and social programs should be based on rational debates and scientific grounds.
In practice many countries mix religion and politics. Their freedom to choose whatever mix of secularism and religion that works for them should be respected. But, they should never be allowed to force their politics of religion on other countries.
Imagine what could have been if the USSR had stayed on that path.Replies: @sexgod, @Mr. XYZ, @Anatoly Karlin, @Galan
China’s current political economy may be best described as a Leninist/NEPist state
would have been the second largest economy in the world.
very interesting and enlightening comment.
Tibetans aren't Wahhabis. Too many Uyghurs are, and too many of those are battle hardened, Captagon addicted fanatics. An entirely different kettle of fish.Replies: @Galan
It worked for the Tibetans...
Fighting for your rights doesn’t make you a wahabi. Uyghurs have been fighting for their rights before the wahabies came into existence. Your hatred is blinding you.
No, but spending your schooling years in a Wahhabi madrassa being indoctrinated in a whacko theology often does.
Fighting for your rights doesn’t make you a wahabi.
Rubbish.
Uyghurs have been fighting for their rights before the wahabies came into existence.
"Fighting for your rights" is one thing stabbing random passers-by at railway stations and blowing up buses full of civilians are two different activities. Anyway, what rights were they fighting for? The right to have four wives? The right to throw queers off rooftops? The right to behead Christians, or people of other religions or the wrong sort of Muslims? Do tell!
Fighting for your rights doesn’t make you a wahabi. Uyghurs have been fighting for their rights before the wahabies came into existence. Your hatred is blinding you.
How do you know? Who are you to judge on behalf of Uyghurs and Tibetans? You speak like god, while pretending to be non religious and scientific. Stop worshiping China, or if you cannot stop worshiping China stop sacrificing other humans for your worship.
But, it seems the opposite is happening now. Free trade is reinvigorating nationalism. It is possible it does both at once engender nationalism and internationalism. But on balance….I am not sure.
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