RSSRacial and ethnic identity are perfectly compatible with libertarianism. In fact, they are absolutely essential. Race is a biological fact, and there are significant differences between Caucasoids, Negroids, Mongoloids, Capoids, Americoids, Australoids and all the various sub-races/hybrids. White nationalist libertarianism is the peak political philosophy for Whites. Choose freedom and prosperity for the White race. There is nothing wrong with loving and supporting your own people.
Maybe, but no such group actually exists.
White nationalist libertarianism is the peak political philosophy for Whites. Choose freedom and prosperity for the White race.
Free enterprise, civil liberties, and non-interventionism within a racial or ethnic nationalist framework. I can think of no better system.
1. With regard to the Mestizo crime debate, it is my opinion that others have successfully challenged your position. Yet, you continue to double down for some reason. Mestizo crime rates in the U.S. are typically 2-3 times higher than white rates. It wouldn’t be a slight on you to admit that you were wrong, it happens to everyone. You have done great work elsewhere, especially with creating this site which allows us to discuss such things. However, your error has, to some degree, given fuel to the anti-white forces of the world. Unfortunately, many of the following links can’t be accessed any longer.
https://www.unz.com/runz/hispanic-crime-a-guide-to-the-debate/
2. All white peoples around the world are threatened by simple biological extinction due to loss of homelands where we can securely live and breed, competition from non-white invaders, hybridization with non-whites, and outright predation by non-whites. Does anyone in their right mind think that Japan would be better off if 40% of its population was Mestizo? For all the talk about Jews and Blacks, the Mestizo invasion is by far the most immediate threat to white demographics in this country. That you seem to deliberately minimize this threat is very disconcerting. You may have some good Mestizo friends or maybe a Mestizo partner, but that can’t bias your work.
3. Aside from crime, Mestizos have lower IQs (or at least score far lower than whites on SATs, ACTs, PISA, etc.), vote Democrat in high percentages, and consume a disproportionate amount of welfare.
https://www.amren.com/archives/reports/hispanics-a-statistical-portrait/
https://www.amren.com/features/2015/10/welfare-whos-on-it-whos-not/
https://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/29/hispanic-immigration-and-the-demographic-decline-of-america/
Here are some links that challenge Unz’s position on mestizo crime. Keep in mind that the government data is opaque in many cases when it comes to who is white or not. This is done purposefully to hide the issue. Another point is that Asians generally have lower crime rates than whites, but this does not mean it would be a good thing for whites in the U.S. to be displaced by Asians.
All white peoples around the world are threatened by simple biological extinction due to loss of homelands where we can securely live and breed, competition from non-white invaders, hybridization with non-whites, and outright predation by non-whites. Whites are decreasing as a precentage of the total population in almost all of their countries. Only a few Eastern European countries have made an effort to preserve their people. Yes, whites are still having children, but you can’t outbreed mass immigration, especially when the immigrants have higher birthrates. Not to mention the government welfare services that subsidize their breeding…
Amren
https://www.amren.com/archives/reports/hispanics-a-statistical-portrait/
Alt-Hype
https://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/29/hispanic-immigration-and-the-demographic-decline-of-america/
Jason Richwine
http://www.aei.org/publication/model-minority/
https://web.archive.org/web/20100430105702/http://www.alternativeright.com/main/blogs/hbd-human-biodiversity/more-on-hispanics-and-crime/
https://web.archive.org/web/20100723045347/http://blog.american.com/?p=11109
https://web.archive.org/web/20101206202419/http://blog.american.com/?p=11237
Mathew Roberts and Steve Burton
https://web.archive.org/web/20120718060745/http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2010/02/22/unzism-a-dangerous-doctrine/
Steve Burton
http://www.whatswrongwiththeworld.net/2010/03/reply_to_unz.html
http://www.whatswrongwiththeworld.net/2010/03/unz_again_1.html
Ed Rubenstein
https://vdare.com/articles/national-data-ron-unz-vanishes-hispanic-criminality-not
Actually, nearly all your links are from around the time that I originally published my 2010 Hispanic Crime article, and I responded to all of them in considerable detail, with some of the critical pieces being quite substantive and others generally worthless. All of those, along with my responses, are already listed and linked in my "Guide to the Debate" column, though since one of the websites has since disappeared, thanks for locating the corresponding Archive.org links:
Here are some links that challenge Unz’s position on mestizo crime.
In addition to mestizo crime rates, there are other things to consider such as IQ, voting patterns, welfare usage, cultural compatibility, disease, etc.
On IQ
https://www.unz.com/akarlin/not-sending-their-best/
https://www.unz.com/isteve/2015-pisa-mean-scores-in-perspective/
On voting patterns and political ideology
https://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/15/253/
https://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/28/political-ideology-in-america-by-race/
https://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/05/12/6-dumb-myths-cracked-belives-about-immigration/
http://www.people-press.org/2015/08/13/continued-bipartisan-support-for-expanded-background-checks-on-gun-sales/8-12-2015-3-59-05-pm/
https://yr.media/tech/for-gun-attitudes-race-matters/
On welfare
http://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/05/11/fiscal-impact-of-whites-blacks-and-hispanics/
https://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/15/the-us-would-be-running-budget-surpluses-if-it-were-all-white/
Blacks are worse than mestizos, but the black population isn’t increasing like the mestizo population is. Mestizos are bad enough, and they are the greater threat to white demographics. The criminals in their home countries are comparable in savagery to ISIS. Their music is not appealing (those trumpets should be used as torture) and neither is their culture of corruption and mediocrity.
a) I stand by this comment, and this is a well-known fact. Italians point this out themselves. How many times do I have to school you about basic US history?Corvinus says the same thing. Why? Because it is true. BTW, White Nationalists don't consider Jews to be white. Get over it. Then again, I am speaking to a 'Republican' who advocates the ultra-socialist policy of a $12 minimum wage. b) I am not an Indian. To believe this displays your ignorance and misdirected rage. None of the half-dozen Indian commenters here thinks I am Indian.Get a clue, muchacho.Replies: @Anonymous, @anon, @FvS
In 1900, Irish were not considered white. In 1950, Italians, Jews, and Poles were not considered white.
Irish, Italians, Poles, and Jews were definitely considered white because they could become U.S. citizens right from the founding of the country. That doesn’t mean all whites are equal. For example, Southern Italian (specifically Sicilian) involvement in organized crime did nothing to enhance their reputation. However, the categorization as Jews as white was probably one of the worst mistakes in U.S. history, along with the African slave trade and the ongoing “immigration” fiasco with Central America.
In certain parts of the South during the Jim Crow era, Southern Italians "occupied a racial middle ground within the otherwise unforgiving, binary caste system of white-over-black." Though Italians were viewed as white for purposes of naturalization and voting, their social standing was that they represented a "problem at best." Their racial status was impacted by their appearance and that they did not "act" white, engaging in manual labor ordinarily reserved for blacks. The trial of nineteen Italian immigrants for the murder of New Orleans police chief David Hennessy in 1890, which ended in the lynching of eleven of them by a white vigilante group, sparked debate in the press over Italians supposed racial characteristics. Italians continued to occupy a "middle ground in the racial order" through the 1920s.[82]:55–62
Again, this is from Wikipedia. I wouldn't put it past Runzie Baby to make a sweeping condemnation of all of Wikipedia based on it containing facts that he is in denial of.
More recent Finns were on several occasions "racially" discriminated against[76] and not seen as white, but "Asian". The reasons for this were the arguments and theories about the Finns originally being of Mongolian instead of native European origin due to the Finnish language belonging to the Uralic and not the Indo-European language family.[77]
The agitated commenters endlessly accusing me of dishonesty are really making themselves look ridiculous. All I've done is reasonably analyze the official data. If you don't like the official data, well, just make up your own numbers, and claim that God told them to you.
What’s worse is that you know this, and are just being dishonest...In other words, you are not just wrong, you are being dishonest...But, just as you accuse those on the Right of being dishonest for political purposes, you surely are being dishonest for your own political purposes.
Well, maybe you are and maybe you aren't. As for me, I haven't lived in LA for around 35 years, and my knowledge largely comes from the public datasets. Since you claim to be part of the local criminal justice system, if the data is all fraudulent, then people like you are to blame.
Further, on a personal note (yeah, I’m sure you’ll love that), as a prosecutor in Los Angeles, I can tell you that it is rare for me to have a defendant who does not have a Spanish surname.
Let's think things through a bit. LA County is about 50% Hispanic, 26% white, and 15% Asian. Everyone knows Asians have unusually low crime rates, and the overwhelming majority of CA whites are older and past their high-crime years. Naturally, I used the Census age-distribution for LA when I did my calculations back in 2010, but I'm not going dig them out again just because some Latin American death-squad leader insults me. However, it wouldn't surprise me if while the overall H/W LA ratio is just 2-to-1, the ratio among crime-age males is more like 4-to-1. In support of this estimate, the H/W ratio at LAUSD is 7-to-1 (I do realize that many whites probably attend private schools).
Moreover, ask any cop here, and they’ll tell you the same. LA County is only 1/2 Hispanic. Are you really asserting that the 16-25 year-old male population of LA County is 90% Hispanic.
What do you make of the data I posted at comment #1017?
Faulk says:
Happily, the US incarceration data is better than its arrest data. The DOJ does a good job differentiating Whites and Hispanics in its prisoner population reports. As can be seen below, said report not only show that Hispanics have a higher crime rate than Whites, but show that this remains true even when only comparing young males of each ethnicity, thus falsifying the myth that Hispanic crime rates are caused by ethnic differences in median age and/or sex ratio..
https://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/29/hispanic-immigration-and-the-demographic-decline-of-america/
Also, did that other commenter have a point about regressions being more useful than correlation coefficients in that case?
So there is your choice. Open immigration and no free stuff, or socialism and a police state. You choose.
Either we drastically restrict immigration or there will be more socialism, more “free” stuff, and a bigger police state to deal with the increase in crime and racial tension.
I've had various run-ins with the Geokat62 entity. I am convinced that this is a professional disinfo agent. A lot of these people have, as a big part of their shtick, this thing of presenting themselves as strongly anti-Zionists. That jerkoff "OilcanFloyd" is another case in point. This constellation of "angry white man" right-wing Islamophobe sites that the Zionists control (Breitbart etc.) is pushing this "white genocide in South Africa" narrative and we see this Geokat entity pushing that here.In some private email, some months ago, this topic came up and I was flabbergasted. I am not a left-wing ideologue who worships Nelson Mandela and all that and I don't idealize the ANC government in South Africa, but the notion that they are planning to "genocide" all the white people in South Africa just strikes me as total wingnut stuff. I tried to investigate the question somewhat, trying to narrow in on some information sources that struck me as basically honest. I came to the following conclusion:The "upcoming white genocide" thing is a synthetic narrative being put out by the same people who put out all the Islamophobic stuff. (You know who...) It's not to say there are no problems in SA but the notion that the blacks are fixin' to do an Adolf H on the whites (for real this time!) is just nonsense. It is completely outside the range of anything that is reasonable to believe.My best guess is that the narrative is a sort of Zionist narrative by analogy. If you believe that the darkie savages are planning to exterminate all the white people in South Africa, you'll extend the analogy to Palestine and think the Arabs are planning to kill all the Jews. And then you support the increasingly savage policies of the Israeli state, thinking they have no other choice.Something like that... In many cases, I don't think it's that subtle even. If you were to look at the writings of Ilana Mercer on this very site...Replies: @FvS, @geokat62, @JLK
Geokat62 is using the old trick of putting a little lie into a bundle of truth.
And that is what makes whites different from everyone else and what makes them uniquely vulnerable. Non-white immigrants don’t have to justify their conquest of the United States. They don’t have to explain why they want their numbers to grow at our expense. They know instinctively that it’s good for them, and that is all they need to know.
The same is true for Third-World immigrants to Europe. They don’t have to justify conquest. No, it is Europeans who would have to justify even the most basic steps necessary to assure their survival.
It should be no more necessary to explain why whites have the right to a future than to explain why it is better to live than to die. But that is the dilemma we face. Slowly, slowly, both in America and in Europe, we are waking up to this dilemma. – Jared Taylor
As long as whites continue to avoid and deny their own racial identity, at a time when almost every other racial and ethnic category is rediscovering and asserting its own, whites will have no chance to resist their dispossession and their eventual possible physical destruction. Before we can seriously discuss any concrete proposals for preserving our culture and its biological and demographic foundations, we have to address and correct the problem we inflict on ourselves, our own lack of a racial consciousness and the absence of a common will to act in accordance with it. – Sam Francis
All white peoples around the world are threatened by simple biological extinction due to loss of homelands where we can securely live and breed, competition from non-white invaders, hybridization with non-whites, and outright predation by non-whites. – Greg Johnson
White displacement, white replacement, white genocide, or whatever you want to call it, is very real. Some people say that Jews are the biggest problem, while others say it’s Muslims. Some people say that blacks are the biggest problem, while others say it’s mestizos/Amerindians. However, these things aren’t mutually exclusive. All nonwhites do not belong in white countries.
Islam is not a racial identity; it is completely possible for a society to be fully White and fully Muslim. Ask the people of the Caucasus.
White displacement, white replacement, white genocide, or whatever you want to call it, is very real...others say it’s Muslims.
And here's why it's game over for the diversity cucks and globalist con-men.Replies: @utu
All nonwhites do not belong in white countries.
Islam is not a racial identity; it is completely possible for a society to be fully White and fully Muslim. Ask the people of the Caucasus.
White displacement, white replacement, white genocide, or whatever you want to call it, is very real...others say it’s Muslims.
Islam is not a racial identity; it is completely possible for a society to be fully White and fully Muslim. Ask the people of the Caucasus.
True, but typically when most people speak of “Muslims” they are referring to nonwhite Muslims. Sort like of like how people often use “Hispanic” when they are referring to nonwhite Hispanics, even though “Hispanic” includes whites. Islam is another Semitic cancer that does not belong in the West, and in my opinion, white Muslims are borderline traitors. The people of the Caucasus would be better off without Islam.
Sure. I guess this will simply take some time.
they are referring to nonwhite Muslims
Traitors to what, "Whiteness"? Why do you not like Whites who are raising stable families and having children?
in my opinion, white Muslims are borderline traitors
I guess so that their TFRs could plummet like all other White people around them.
The people of the Caucasus would be better off without Islam.
Yeah, right. CA is a beacon for the best and brightest of all races from around the world. Were is just white bread it wouldn't be anywhere as successful. https://bulloakcapital.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/State-GDP-vs-Countries.jpgAs you can see, CA compares very favorably to the whitest states in the union (West Virginia, Idaho, Wyoming, North Dakota, Kentucky, etc). As does TX, which is also heavily Latino or Hispanic. If fact these two brownish states financially support the relatively moribund "white states". New York State is also brownish as it is only 65% white. Remove these three states and the United States instantly becomes a second rate power.Replies: @LostHopeless, @JLK, @FvS, @notanon
California might be heading towards Colombia status, but after that it will be Bolivia, and then Venezuela.
You sure you wanna go there? California checks in with a GDP per capita of $75,000. How are Idaho and West Virginia doing?Replies: @FvS
GDP is a crap statistic, but if you are intent on using it, GDP per capita is better.
You sure you wanna go there? California checks in with a GDP per capita of $75,000. How are Idaho and West Virginia doing?Replies: @FvS
GDP is a crap statistic, but if you are intent on using it, GDP per capita is better.
You sure you wanna go there? California checks in with a GDP per capita of $75,000.
I commented on the nature of the GDP statistic, nothing more.
https://mises.org/library/how-gdp-metrics-distort-our-view-economy
https://mises.org/library/gdp-tool-politics-not-economics
But since you brought it up, where are you getting the $75,000 statistic for California? I’m showing California at $70,000. North Dakota is higher than California, and Wyoming is right there with them. West Virginia and Idaho rank at the bottom of U.S. states in terms of GDP per capita but are similar to France, Belgium, U.K., New Zealand, Israel, etc. Keep in mind that for a racially diverse state like California, it is possible that one racial group is producing the lion’s share of the wealth. It’s also possible that a relatively small segment of the population produces most of the wealth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_between_U.S._states_and_sovereign_states_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita
A GDP of $3 trillion dollars divided by 40 million people.
But since you brought it up, where are you getting the $75,000 statistic for California?
If North Dakota and Wyoming were a country they would be a top 10 oil and gas producer. Yet they have a combined population of only about 1.4 million people. Not that there's anything wrong with it, but without oil and gas they would join the ranks of West Virginia and Idaho. Unlike racially diverse TX and CA (#1 and #3 US oil producers respectively) which have dynamic and diversified economies, ND and WY are one-trick ponies.
North Dakota is higher than California, and Wyoming is right there with them.
Well, prove it. It's pretty obvious from the data that all races in CA contribute to the state's economy. We're talking about averages after all. Some are wealthy and some are poor. But the middle class is responsible for most of the output and most of the wealth.Replies: @FvS
Keep in mind that for a racially diverse state like California, it is possible that one racial group is producing the lion’s share of the wealth. It’s also possible that a relatively small segment of the population produces most of the wealth.
Sure. I guess this will simply take some time.
they are referring to nonwhite Muslims
Traitors to what, "Whiteness"? Why do you not like Whites who are raising stable families and having children?
in my opinion, white Muslims are borderline traitors
I guess so that their TFRs could plummet like all other White people around them.
The people of the Caucasus would be better off without Islam.
Traitors to what, “Whiteness”?
Western Civilization. Their culture. Their heritage. Their ancestors that died fighting off the Muslim hordes.
Why do you not like Whites who are raising stable families and having children?
It’s not worth the cost. White racial consciousness can rise again without Islam. It already is rising without it.
I guess so that their TFRs could plummet like all other White people around them.
There are non-Muslim Eastern European countries that have chosen to defend their people. You can’t outbreed mass immigration. And technically, Islam is just as universalist as Christianity in terms of race.
They wouldn't have flipped if they didn't consider what Western Civilization has become to be toxic to their own interests and survival.
Western Civilization.
Uh hunh...you mean those ancestors that adopted the other "Semitic cancer" and fought their previous ancestors for being pagan. This kind of stuff happens over time.
Their ancestors that died fighting off the Muslim hordes.
"White racial consciousness"? What does that even mean? When has Europe simply considered itself to be some unified "White" continent? Let's be honest; the reason people might even cling to "White racial consciousness" is because many Europeans have already had regional, tribal, clan affiliations so removed out of their identity over centuries, that they have to find something (anything) to replace it. This is what happens when you tout hyper-individualism. Do the Scots still take their clans seriously? They used to.The specific racial consciousness being touted now is all based on materialist assumptions - which is fine if that works for you, but the converts I interacted with found it to be an empty, meaningless void. Plus, Islam has never even been against distinct identity down to to the tribal level (in fact, this is what we often get criticized for in the West) - go ask people in Iraq, they can still trace their lineages back to pre-Islamic tribes like Bani Tamim. I can trace mine back to Bani Hashim. How far back can you trace the ancestors you are talking about?Religions (ones that are serious) absorb various races/ethnicities into their wider brotherhood because it gives people a bigger purpose - that is how major religions spread. If people in a society are finding more purpose in race/ethnicity than their religion, then you are dealing with a religion on the ropes.Look, go ahead and turn your back on God in order to save your people...let's see what He does.
White racial consciousness can rise again without Islam.
Agreed - watch that video I posted.
It already is rising without it.
Yup and their TFRs are still abysmally in the toilet and they still don't know how to get out of the rut.
There are non-Muslim Eastern European countries that have chosen to defend their people.
Darn right, but when you aren't as susceptible to Zionist propaganda and are having your own babies there is no worry - traditional Muslims certainly don't worry about being outbred. Plus, God takes credit for the differences in human beings, why would we want one mixed up singular race/ethnicity?:
Islam is just as universalist as Christianity in terms of race.
You have to be kidding. You think white people give a damn about their heritage or their culture? Western civilisation, as something worth caring about and worth preserving, is gone.Western Civilization. Their culture. Their heritage. Their ancestors that died fighting off the Muslim hordes.
Traitors to what, “Whiteness”?
A GDP of $3 trillion dollars divided by 40 million people.
But since you brought it up, where are you getting the $75,000 statistic for California?
If North Dakota and Wyoming were a country they would be a top 10 oil and gas producer. Yet they have a combined population of only about 1.4 million people. Not that there's anything wrong with it, but without oil and gas they would join the ranks of West Virginia and Idaho. Unlike racially diverse TX and CA (#1 and #3 US oil producers respectively) which have dynamic and diversified economies, ND and WY are one-trick ponies.
North Dakota is higher than California, and Wyoming is right there with them.
Well, prove it. It's pretty obvious from the data that all races in CA contribute to the state's economy. We're talking about averages after all. Some are wealthy and some are poor. But the middle class is responsible for most of the output and most of the wealth.Replies: @FvS
Keep in mind that for a racially diverse state like California, it is possible that one racial group is producing the lion’s share of the wealth. It’s also possible that a relatively small segment of the population produces most of the wealth.
A GDP of $3 trillion dollars divided by 40 million people.
I think the statistics I posted are more accurate.
If North Dakota and Wyoming were a country they would be a top 10 oil and gas producer. Yet they have a combined population of only about 1.4 million people. Not that there’s anything wrong with it, but without oil and gas they would join the ranks of West Virginia and Idaho. Unlike racially diverse TX and CA (#1 and #3 US oil producers respectively) which have dynamic and diversified economies, ND and WY are one-trick ponies.
You can’t just pick and choose what industries not to include. After all, California is a beneficiary of its favorable location. And again, GDP is a trash statistic because it includes government spending. California has serious debt issues.
Well, prove it.
I just said it’s a possibility.
It’s pretty obvious from the data that all races in CA contribute to the state’s economy. We’re talking about averages after all. Some are wealthy and some are poor. But the middle class is responsible for most of the output and most of the wealth.
They all contribute, but do they contribute equally? That’s not so obvious. It’s perfectly possible that California’s GDP would be even higher with a more homogeneous white population. How are the Hispanics that make up the 40% of California’s population represented in the middle and upper classes?
My GDP figure reflects projected 2018 numbers. But you're right, we're in the same ballpark of between $70k-$75k.
I think the statistics I posted are more accurate.
I don't begrudge any state or country for how they make their living. I'm just stating a fact. ND and WY combined produce nearly as much oil as Nigeria, with a population just over a million people. There is virtually nothing else there besides oil and gas. That's why the inevitable bust cycles hit them particularly hard. People flee. Real-estate collapses. New construction ends. Homes are abandoned. Cars and trucks are abandoned on the roads. Bars, restaurants, strip joints and other businesses close, etc.
You can’t just pick and choose what industries not to include. After all, California is a beneficiary of its favorable location.
CA gives more to the government than it gets back.
GDP is a trash statistic because it includes government spending
California isn't even in the top 10 in debt to GDP ratio.
California has serious debt issues.
Of course they contribute equally. Every active member of a community contributes otherwise the community couldn't function. The masters of industry in Silicon Valley rely on a wide and varied assortment of workers without whom they would be absolutely useless. When I walk into my office building I notice all the building staff and engineers milling around without whose contributions I wouldn't be able to sit in my penthouse suite and perform my own role.
They all contribute, but do they contribute equally? That’s not so obvious.
No, it wouldn't have a higher GDP as a homogeneous white state. There's a significant percentage of non-whites in the world who are better and brighter than a significant percentage of whites, and California attracts some of these people. Moreover, there simply aren't enough white STEM graduates to fill the void. And the trend lines point to more and more non-whites filling these roles.
It’s perfectly possible that California’s GDP would be even higher with a more homogeneous white population.
According to Pew Research Center, 42.3 percent of Latino eligible voters in California make a household income of $75,000 or more. Some are even entering the upper class. I find that in the Los Angeles area, Latinos comprise 7 percent of the top 1 percent of income earners. Many are middle and upper-class pioneers: they are the children of poor or working-class immigrants and some are influencing California’s political present and future by aligning themselves with the interests of the poor and working class.
How are the Hispanics that make up the 40% of California’s population represented in the middle and upper classes?
They wouldn't have flipped if they didn't consider what Western Civilization has become to be toxic to their own interests and survival.
Western Civilization.
Uh hunh...you mean those ancestors that adopted the other "Semitic cancer" and fought their previous ancestors for being pagan. This kind of stuff happens over time.
Their ancestors that died fighting off the Muslim hordes.
"White racial consciousness"? What does that even mean? When has Europe simply considered itself to be some unified "White" continent? Let's be honest; the reason people might even cling to "White racial consciousness" is because many Europeans have already had regional, tribal, clan affiliations so removed out of their identity over centuries, that they have to find something (anything) to replace it. This is what happens when you tout hyper-individualism. Do the Scots still take their clans seriously? They used to.The specific racial consciousness being touted now is all based on materialist assumptions - which is fine if that works for you, but the converts I interacted with found it to be an empty, meaningless void. Plus, Islam has never even been against distinct identity down to to the tribal level (in fact, this is what we often get criticized for in the West) - go ask people in Iraq, they can still trace their lineages back to pre-Islamic tribes like Bani Tamim. I can trace mine back to Bani Hashim. How far back can you trace the ancestors you are talking about?Religions (ones that are serious) absorb various races/ethnicities into their wider brotherhood because it gives people a bigger purpose - that is how major religions spread. If people in a society are finding more purpose in race/ethnicity than their religion, then you are dealing with a religion on the ropes.Look, go ahead and turn your back on God in order to save your people...let's see what He does.
White racial consciousness can rise again without Islam.
Agreed - watch that video I posted.
It already is rising without it.
Yup and their TFRs are still abysmally in the toilet and they still don't know how to get out of the rut.
There are non-Muslim Eastern European countries that have chosen to defend their people.
Darn right, but when you aren't as susceptible to Zionist propaganda and are having your own babies there is no worry - traditional Muslims certainly don't worry about being outbred. Plus, God takes credit for the differences in human beings, why would we want one mixed up singular race/ethnicity?:
Islam is just as universalist as Christianity in terms of race.
They wouldn’t have flipped if they didn’t consider what Western Civilization has become to be toxic to their own interests and survival.
The amount of whites that have converted to Islam is infinitesimally small.
Uh hunh…you mean those ancestors that adopted the other “Semitic cancer” and fought their previous ancestors for being pagan. This kind of stuff happens over time.
Doesn’t make it a good thing. Nor does it mean that Christianity and Islam are equal.
“White racial consciousness”? What does that even mean?
Racial consciousness means racial loyalty. It means viewing your race as an almost extended family and looking out for the interests of your race. All non-white groups instinctively pursue their own interests, and legitimately so. It is only whites who have been taught that it is immoral to take even the most basic steps to ensure their survival.
When has Europe simply considered itself to be some unified “White” continent? Let’s be honest; the reason people might even cling to “White racial consciousness” is because many Europeans have already had regional, tribal, clan affiliations so removed out of their identity over centuries, that they have to find something (anything) to replace it. This is what happens when you tout hyper-individualism. Do the Scots still take their clans seriously? They used to.
Ethnicity only takes priority among racially similar peoples. When other races are introduced, race takes priority again. At least, that’s the tendency as I see it. Egalitarianism and science denial are more to blame than individualism (which has to be one of the most misunderstood ideas ever). Thinking Jews are white was another huge mistake.
And growing...these things take time. And the demographics will change since converted Whites tend to have nice sized families; I know plenty White converts and they all have 3-4 kids. And with other Whites checking out and not bothering to have kids...well this is simply mathematics.
infinitesimally small.
By who? Certainly not by Islam. As I mentioned, Islam has nothing against looking out for your people even at a tribal level. We recently went over the rules of zakat distribution according to the Hanafi school; it is preferred (by the recommendation of the Prophet [pbuh]) to distribute zakat in one's locality and among one's extended family. There is nothing wrong with loving people of your own background or preferring their company (as marriage partners, friends, etc.) or culture over that of others.It's when you help your people in wrong-doing or oppression or consider yourself to be arrogantly superior to others that is impermissible.
It is only whites who have been taught that it is immoral to take even the most basic steps to ensure their survival.
Yup - the only reason there is such a thing being touted as "White racial consciousness" is because there are blacks and browns around. It is a reactionary identity.I personally think the Alt-Right needs some kind of a spiritual prgoram or methodology, but to each his own.
When other races are introduced, race takes priority again.
I didn't argue otherwise. I'm talking about prioritization.
Race is biological fact.
Not in the market to; you can have a nice chat with Him about how you thought He was fictional when you meet Him.
Prove to me that your God exists.
Ah yes, haste. Give it time, one of the Divine Attributes is "As-Saboor"* (The Most Patient). Right now the post-Mao, atheist, ethno-nationalist government of China is being given leash to provide evidence against itself in the public sphere. These things take a while.Another factor is that this is a reflection of our failures to live up to our religion; He reserves the right to humiliate us at the hands of others until we fix ourselves. The Muslim world has plenty of failures; immorality, greed, division, etc. What's the Muslim world doing other than simply watching the oppression happen?
What is your God doing to help your Muslim brethren in China or Burma?
I'm not an Arab, but yes, I would side with a Muslim African any day as my brother (assuming the Muslim guy didn't commit a crime or something against the atheist guy, in which case I'd side with the atheist guy to get his rights) - doesn't mean I'd invite him to live with me in my house. I totally get you prioritization; racial purity is the primary objective, everything else fits in based on its ability to accommodate that primary goal. This makes sense.You can only serve one master.
Would you side with an atheist Arab over a Muslim African?
OK - so why haven't high-IQ societies been able to get it back on track - even the Eastern Europeans who are blocking immigration?
It’s not really complicated.
We like stable families and kids too. We also have transcendental purpose in our lives - that's what these guys converted for. The family and baby thing is simply part of the package.
All Muslims have going for them
Yeah, I'm neither pro-race mixing or anti-race mixing - both positions seem fairly silly to me.
You may not want it, but you’re not opposed to it.
Hey, no sweat, like I mentioned, you "master" slot is already filled - doesn't make a difference to me - it's your (after)life.Peace.*Note: And also "Al-Muntaqim" (The Avenger)...Replies: @Jonathan Revusky, @Anonymous
Sorry, I can’t be converted.
My GDP figure reflects projected 2018 numbers. But you're right, we're in the same ballpark of between $70k-$75k.
I think the statistics I posted are more accurate.
I don't begrudge any state or country for how they make their living. I'm just stating a fact. ND and WY combined produce nearly as much oil as Nigeria, with a population just over a million people. There is virtually nothing else there besides oil and gas. That's why the inevitable bust cycles hit them particularly hard. People flee. Real-estate collapses. New construction ends. Homes are abandoned. Cars and trucks are abandoned on the roads. Bars, restaurants, strip joints and other businesses close, etc.
You can’t just pick and choose what industries not to include. After all, California is a beneficiary of its favorable location.
CA gives more to the government than it gets back.
GDP is a trash statistic because it includes government spending
California isn't even in the top 10 in debt to GDP ratio.
California has serious debt issues.
Of course they contribute equally. Every active member of a community contributes otherwise the community couldn't function. The masters of industry in Silicon Valley rely on a wide and varied assortment of workers without whom they would be absolutely useless. When I walk into my office building I notice all the building staff and engineers milling around without whose contributions I wouldn't be able to sit in my penthouse suite and perform my own role.
They all contribute, but do they contribute equally? That’s not so obvious.
No, it wouldn't have a higher GDP as a homogeneous white state. There's a significant percentage of non-whites in the world who are better and brighter than a significant percentage of whites, and California attracts some of these people. Moreover, there simply aren't enough white STEM graduates to fill the void. And the trend lines point to more and more non-whites filling these roles.
It’s perfectly possible that California’s GDP would be even higher with a more homogeneous white population.
According to Pew Research Center, 42.3 percent of Latino eligible voters in California make a household income of $75,000 or more. Some are even entering the upper class. I find that in the Los Angeles area, Latinos comprise 7 percent of the top 1 percent of income earners. Many are middle and upper-class pioneers: they are the children of poor or working-class immigrants and some are influencing California’s political present and future by aligning themselves with the interests of the poor and working class.
How are the Hispanics that make up the 40% of California’s population represented in the middle and upper classes?
I don’t begrudge any state or country for how they make their living…Bars, restaurants, strip joints and other businesses close, etc.
Fair enough.
CA gives more to the government than it gets back.
That may be true, but it’s irrelevant to what I said.
California isn’t even in the top 10 in debt to GDP ratio.
https://www.usgovernmentdebt.us/state_debt_rank
And North Dakota is just below California at #15.
A link for you.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasdelbeccaro/2018/04/19/the-top-four-reasons-california-is-unsustainable/
Your budget impact by race graphic is a canard and a laughable one too. The US government keeps no such stats.
Another link. Includes Hispanics.
https://voxday.blogspot.com/2017/06/the-cost-of-black-america.html
Of course they contribute equally….
Then why aren’t they paid the same? Does an entrepreneur that starts his own business and creates jobs for other people contribute an equal amount to the economy as a field worker picking vegetables?
No, it wouldn’t have a higher GDP as a homogeneous white state.
I think it would, given that whites test better than mestizos.
https://www.unz.com/isteve/2015-pisa-mean-scores-in-perspective/
https://www.brookings.edu/research/race-gaps-in-sat-scores-highlight-inequality-and-hinder-upward-mobility/
California is unsustainable? What exactly does that mean? California is going to cease functioning as a viable entity? Maybe in a fantasy world. The only realistic threat to California is some sort of cataclysmic natural disaster like the San Andreas Fault going nuts. The regulatory environment in California is no more onerous than that of any other state. It does have state income tax. But those states that don't have income tax like Texas have a suite of creative ways to get your money regardless. Compare property taxes in TX vs CA, for instance. And reduced or shabby services have real monetary and quality of life impacts.
A link for you.https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasdelbeccaro/2018/04/19/the-top-four-reasons-california-is-unsustainable/
This isn't evidence, it's a white nationalist blog. If you introduced it in a court of law you'd be laughed out of the building. One could easily assert that the cost of white America would encumber every American with millions of dollars in debt. The Wall Street and banking scams alone are worth trillions of dollars in losses.
Another link. Includes Hispanics.https://voxday.blogspot.com/2017/06/the-cost-of-black-america.html
Some are. There are millionaires and billionaires among blacks and Hispanics.
Then why aren’t they paid the same?
I never made that claim.
Does an entrepreneur that starts his own business and creates jobs for other people contribute an equal amount to the economy as a field worker picking vegetables?
Sure. But how is that relevant?
I think it would, given that whites test better than mestizos.
Are you suggesting that only East Asians are capable of being smarter than whites? Well the real world doesn't recognize that silly proposition, including the East Asians themselves. Can you identify ONE SINGLE credible East Asian scientist, scholar or academic anywhere in the world who will agree with you that East Asians are innately more intelligent than Africans? Good luck.
Only the case for some East Asians.
Brain drain doesn't pertain to raw smarts, it pertains to educated professionals. But even with regard to educated professional, there is not a finite supply in India or Africa or anywhere else.
But how exactly are these other countries supposed to improve (thinking of India) if all their best and brightest leave ? Brain drain and all that.
No, bruh. Americans are majoring in philosophy. Or they're trying to go into investment banking and all these other high profile, high salary occupations. STEM doesn't actually pay well. Research grants are notorious for nickeling and diming grantees. The presumption is that they're in it for the science and not the money. It's actually true that if a PhD wants to make real money, they have to get a real job. Foreign STEM workers are not paid less. If they're doing research they're usually paid via a grant. Or they're hired by some private or public sector institution. The terms of employment will stipulate the salary for that position. It makes no difference if the employee is from Boston or from Beijing. The salary is the same. Btw, you're linking to Amren and Breitbart? LOL.
Yes there are, but there is also virtue signaling to be had, diversity quotas to fill, and foreign workers to be paid (less). An American corporation’s first loyalty should be to Americans.
Just like the Italians and Greeks and Irish before them. These are people whose parents were, in some cases, illegal immigrants who came here with virtually nothing. Adjusted for those factors they're actually out-performing whites to a very large degree.
Looks like they are underrepresented in the middle and upper classes compared to whites, which I think everyone already knew.
I don't work for the California tourism bureau. I just thought I'd correct some misconceptions about the state. The state has found its way into white supremacist talking points as evidence of the horrors of immigration. Obviously, white supremacists cannot be trusted to tell the truth. Nonetheless, there are many reasons why people leave the state. Some are afraid of earthquakes. Some are afraid of North Korean nukes. Some leave for the same reason other Americans relocate to the developing world -- because their money goes further there. In some parts of America you can buy a house with acres and acres of land for a fraction of what you'd pay in California. So what? It's a lifestyle choice, not a value judgement.Replies: @David Baker, @FvS
And if California is so great, why are so many people fleeing the state?
This is an interesting article.
https://mises.org/wire/these-us-states-have-higher-incomes-nearly-every-european-country
For the sake of argument, I'll assume you're being honest and that both your recollection and your information were correct.
Ron, I had access to decades of Chicago Police crime statistics..They are consistent. Summary–Whites and Asians commit almost no violent crimes, hispanics are several times as violent, and blacks are many times more violent than hispanics.
See my comment #1017.
From
https://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/29/hispanic-immigration-and-the-demographic-decline-of-america/
Many large cities, such as New York and Chicago, and some states, such as California, do record arrest rates in a way that differentiates non Hispanic Whites from Hispanics. The relevant data was compiled in a recent report published by the New Century Foundation. The results show that Hispanics have a much higher crime rate than non-Hispanic Whites.
The DOJ does a good job differentiating Whites and Hispanics in its prisoner population reports. Said reports not only show that Hispanics have a higher crime rate than Whites, but show that this remains true even when only comparing young males of each ethnicity, thus falsifying the myth that Hispanic crime rates are caused by ethnic differences in median age and/or sex ratio.
(1) For decades, NYC Hispanics have been overwhelmingly Caribbean, so the high arrest figures don't particularly surprise me. Indeed, I emphasized this in the text of my article. Admittedly more Mexicans have recently arrived there, but I very much doubt they have anything like the same crime rates.
See my comment #1017...Many large cities, such as New York and Chicago, and some states, such as California, do record arrest rates in a way that differentiates non Hispanic Whites from Hispanics...The DOJ does a good job differentiating Whites and Hispanics in its prisoner population reports.
(1) For decades, NYC Hispanics have been overwhelmingly Caribbean, so the high arrest figures don't particularly surprise me. Indeed, I emphasized this in the text of my article. Admittedly more Mexicans have recently arrived there, but I very much doubt they have anything like the same crime rates.
See my comment #1017...Many large cities, such as New York and Chicago, and some states, such as California, do record arrest rates in a way that differentiates non Hispanic Whites from Hispanics...The DOJ does a good job differentiating Whites and Hispanics in its prisoner population reports.
1.) I think Burton responded well to most of these points back in the day, especially about leaving out the federal statistics.
http://www.whatswrongwiththeworld.net/2010/03/reply_to_unz.html
http://www.whatswrongwiththeworld.net/2010/03/unz_again_1.html
2.) A point made by a commenter from the American Conservative that I thought was relevant.
I think you miss the big picture which is that ANY immigrant involved criminal incident that takes place is a crime that didn’t need to occur. So it’s like “extra crime.” If an illegal immigrant murders a cop…it’s a result of negligence and something that never needed to happen.
Also the reason why people believe that Hispanics are more likely to commit crimes is from common sense personal experience. Your statistics cite incarceration rates, but most of us who live in or have lived in predominantly Hispanic areas know that it’s the abundance of small time petty criminals that is the real dealbreaker. I can’t even count the number of times I’ve had my bicycle stolen or my car broken into or witnessed all the lame graffiti culture when in these Phoenix neighborhoods. These types of crimes are mostly unreported, but people have the good sense to know their origins, and that’s why attitudes and stereotypes are what they are..
3.) One problem when dealing with mestizo crime rates and trying to analyze the data based on race is that the racial makeup of mestizos can vary wildly. I would bet that the tendency is, the more European DNA a mestizo or castizo has, the more intelligent and well-behaved they are.
4.) There is also the issue of how crime prone Central Americans are in their home countries vs. in the U.S. It is possible that the mestizos/Amerindian immigrants to the U.S. aren’t a proper representation of their native populations. Selection bias and all that.
However, the debate isn’t really about crime rates. It’s whether whites should become a minority in their own country. I say no. You say yes.
California is unsustainable? What exactly does that mean? California is going to cease functioning as a viable entity? Maybe in a fantasy world. The only realistic threat to California is some sort of cataclysmic natural disaster like the San Andreas Fault going nuts. The regulatory environment in California is no more onerous than that of any other state. It does have state income tax. But those states that don't have income tax like Texas have a suite of creative ways to get your money regardless. Compare property taxes in TX vs CA, for instance. And reduced or shabby services have real monetary and quality of life impacts.
A link for you.https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasdelbeccaro/2018/04/19/the-top-four-reasons-california-is-unsustainable/
This isn't evidence, it's a white nationalist blog. If you introduced it in a court of law you'd be laughed out of the building. One could easily assert that the cost of white America would encumber every American with millions of dollars in debt. The Wall Street and banking scams alone are worth trillions of dollars in losses.
Another link. Includes Hispanics.https://voxday.blogspot.com/2017/06/the-cost-of-black-america.html
Some are. There are millionaires and billionaires among blacks and Hispanics.
Then why aren’t they paid the same?
I never made that claim.
Does an entrepreneur that starts his own business and creates jobs for other people contribute an equal amount to the economy as a field worker picking vegetables?
Sure. But how is that relevant?
I think it would, given that whites test better than mestizos.
Are you suggesting that only East Asians are capable of being smarter than whites? Well the real world doesn't recognize that silly proposition, including the East Asians themselves. Can you identify ONE SINGLE credible East Asian scientist, scholar or academic anywhere in the world who will agree with you that East Asians are innately more intelligent than Africans? Good luck.
Only the case for some East Asians.
Brain drain doesn't pertain to raw smarts, it pertains to educated professionals. But even with regard to educated professional, there is not a finite supply in India or Africa or anywhere else.
But how exactly are these other countries supposed to improve (thinking of India) if all their best and brightest leave ? Brain drain and all that.
No, bruh. Americans are majoring in philosophy. Or they're trying to go into investment banking and all these other high profile, high salary occupations. STEM doesn't actually pay well. Research grants are notorious for nickeling and diming grantees. The presumption is that they're in it for the science and not the money. It's actually true that if a PhD wants to make real money, they have to get a real job. Foreign STEM workers are not paid less. If they're doing research they're usually paid via a grant. Or they're hired by some private or public sector institution. The terms of employment will stipulate the salary for that position. It makes no difference if the employee is from Boston or from Beijing. The salary is the same. Btw, you're linking to Amren and Breitbart? LOL.
Yes there are, but there is also virtue signaling to be had, diversity quotas to fill, and foreign workers to be paid (less). An American corporation’s first loyalty should be to Americans.
Just like the Italians and Greeks and Irish before them. These are people whose parents were, in some cases, illegal immigrants who came here with virtually nothing. Adjusted for those factors they're actually out-performing whites to a very large degree.
Looks like they are underrepresented in the middle and upper classes compared to whites, which I think everyone already knew.
I don't work for the California tourism bureau. I just thought I'd correct some misconceptions about the state. The state has found its way into white supremacist talking points as evidence of the horrors of immigration. Obviously, white supremacists cannot be trusted to tell the truth. Nonetheless, there are many reasons why people leave the state. Some are afraid of earthquakes. Some are afraid of North Korean nukes. Some leave for the same reason other Americans relocate to the developing world -- because their money goes further there. In some parts of America you can buy a house with acres and acres of land for a fraction of what you'd pay in California. So what? It's a lifestyle choice, not a value judgement.Replies: @David Baker, @FvS
And if California is so great, why are so many people fleeing the state?
California is unsustainable? What exactly does that mean?…Compare property taxes in TX vs CA, for instance. And reduced or shabby services have real monetary and quality of life impacts.
California ranks last in quality of life. It’s in the article. The other issues are all discussed there too.
This isn’t evidence, it’s a white nationalist blog. If you introduced it in a court of law you’d be laughed out of the building. One could easily assert that the cost of white America would encumber every American with millions of dollars in debt. The Wall Street and banking scams alone are worth trillions of dollars in losses.
All the data is linked in the post. Unless you think sites like statisticbrain.com are white nationlist blogs.
Some are. There are millionaires and billionaires among blacks and Hispanics.
But not equally represented relative to their populations.
I never made that claim.
Yes, you did.
Are you suggesting that only East Asians are capable of being smarter than whites?
No, I’m talking averages here. Surely you’ve heard of The Bell Curve?
Well the real world doesn’t recognize that silly proposition, including the East Asians themselves. Can you identify ONE SINGLE credible East Asian scientist, scholar or academic anywhere in the world who will agree with you that East Asians are innately more intelligent than Africans? Good luck.
The Chinese aren’t hampered by things like white guilt.
https://lesacreduprintemps19.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/on-the-concept-of-race-in-chinese-biological-anthropology-alive-and-well.pdf
And they have a word for diversity loving, PC whites.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-21/baizuo-new-derogatory-term-millions-chinese-are-using-describe-americas-white-left-r
Brain drain doesn’t pertain to raw smarts, it pertains to educated professionals. But even with regard to educated professional, there is not a finite supply in India or Africa or anywhere else.
If it’s good for the U.S. that they come here, it’s bad for the country in which they left.
No, California most definitely does not rank last in quality of life. That's merely the opinion of one ultra-rightwing contributor to Forbes. It's based neither on the facts or on reality. Here are some alternative opinions:Too Bad, Trump — California Is the Nation's Most Popular Statehttps://www.laweekly.com/news/california-is-americas-favorite-state-to-live-retire-or-raise-a-family-8051490Here's How California Ranks Among Best Places To Livehttps://patch.com/california/lakeelsinore-wildomar/here-s-how-california-ranks-among-best-places-live51 Reasons California Is America's Best Statehttps://archives.sfweekly.com/exhibitionist/2011/08/31/51-reasons-california-is-americas-best-stateIn actuality, California offers one of the best lifestyles in the world. The climate is generally agreeable and enjoyable, particularly if you've had the misfortune of being landlocked in one of the more dreary, wintry or humid parts of the United States. The beaches are world class, and the vistas coming around the bend on PCH are as beautiful as any in the world.
California ranks last in quality of life. It’s in the article. The other issues are all discussed there too.
This is called statistical malpractice, something alt-right types are notorious for. Given the same exact data sets a rational and non-ideological person would come to a radically different interpretation.
All the data is linked in the post. Unless you think sites like statisticbrain.com are white nationlist blogs.
Okay, identify just ONE SINGLE credible East Asian researcher, scientist, thinker, geneticist or academic who believes or postulates that East Asians are ***ON AVERAGE*** intrinsically or genetically more intelligent than Africans. Good luck.
No, I’m talking averages here. Surely you’ve heard of The Bell Curve?
Your link states that Chinese anthropologists are more amenable than American and Polish anthropologists to the concept of distinct human races. Okay, now what? How do you draw from that an inference that the Chinese believe some races are superior or inferior? Which leads to another bit of alt-right idiocy -- the notion that if there are identifiable human races, then it must follow that there are hierarchies among said races. Oh, let's hear from a leading Chinese geneticist:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzyoMqxppR0
The Chinese aren’t hampered by things like white guilt.https://lesacreduprintemps19.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/on-the-concept-of-race-in-chinese-biological-anthropology-alive-and-well.pdf
You conducted a poll of all 1.4 billion Chinese, did you? From your own link:The question has received more than 400 answers from Zhihu users, which include some of the most representative perceptions of the ‘white left’. Although the emphasis varies, baizuo is used generally to describe those who “only care about topics such as immigration, minorities, LGBT and the environment” and “have no sense of real problems in the real world”Zero Hedge is a ridiculous alt-right blog. This kind of thoughtless sophistry and jumping to conclusions that satisfy your biases are among the myriad reasons your ideology is in the toilet.
And they have a word for diversity loving, PC whites.https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-21/baizuo-new-derogatory-term-millions-chinese-are-using-describe-americas-white-left-r
The United States simply provides an environment more conducive than their home countries. It's the same reason Europeans fled their various shitholes for the United States.
If it’s good for the U.S. that they come here, it’s bad for the country in which they left.
They are now but they weren't then.
Italians, Greeks, and Irish are white.
As a snapshot in this particular time, perhaps. But the fact that they fled their various basketcase countries for the United States ought to make it obvious to you that economic, cultural and civilizational circumstances don't remain fixed in time for all eternity.
And their home countries are run much better than most of the non-white immigrants’ countries are.
Even if that were true, that would exclude the vast majority of whites in the United States, probably including you. There are no Italian, Greek, Irish, Russian or even Swedish signatories of the Declaration of Independence. These ethnicities became "white" only in the 20th century.
The U.S. was founded for White Europeans by White Europeans. It is a white country.
Not when the states they're moving to also harbor immigrants, illegal or otherwise. A common move is from CA to TX. Well, TX has its fair share of both legal and illegal immigrants. And Harris County is more liberal, more progressive and more diverse than Los Angeles County. So immigration isn't the reason people relocate from one state to another. If they wanted to avoid immigrants they'd move to Mississippi, Montana, Idaho, West Virginia, The Dakotas, etc. But those states aren't exactly attracting a great influx of new residents.Replies: @FvS
Muh white supremacy. And I’m sure immigration has had nothing to do with why people are leaving.
I'm really not sure whether too many people outside the Internet and FoxNews actually have a perception of higher Latino crime rates. That certainly doesn't seem to be the case in most of CA or other areas with large Latino populations have have been around for a while.
wouldn’t that mean people’s lived experience of a much higher latino crime rate (at least in blue collar neighborhoods) is correct but it’s due to the age and gender effects of mass immigration rather than fundamental ethnic cultural/genetic differences?
Many of the California whites that would have been favorable to Trump’s message started voting with their feet long before he came along. California has become a magnet for the self-hating, diversity fetishist types. Types that would say, “He deserves it because of my white privilege,” as the mestizo thief made off with their purse.
The narrative that whites are ‘vanishing’ from California would greatly diminish if all the half-white children are counted. Since most of the 22% of babies that are interracial in CA are half-white, counting the half-white components of each leads to a higher number of aggregate whites in CA.
Except half-whites aren’t white by definition.
As the typical Mexican is 40% white, the offspring of a Mexican and a white American is going to be 70% white, 30% AmerIndian. Appearance-wise, such a person would just look like at Italian or a Univision Spaniard.
With 30% Amerindian blood, Americoid features would still be visible. Italians and Spaniards are pure Caucasoid. Here is a picture for reference. Carlos Santana is probably close to what you’re talking about.
If not the the continuous topping of of new Hispanics and Asians, both populations would just vanish into the white population through interbreeding.
No, you would still have “pure” mestizos and pure whites. There would just be a segment of the population that was trending towards castizo.
No, California most definitely does not rank last in quality of life. That's merely the opinion of one ultra-rightwing contributor to Forbes. It's based neither on the facts or on reality. Here are some alternative opinions:Too Bad, Trump — California Is the Nation's Most Popular Statehttps://www.laweekly.com/news/california-is-americas-favorite-state-to-live-retire-or-raise-a-family-8051490Here's How California Ranks Among Best Places To Livehttps://patch.com/california/lakeelsinore-wildomar/here-s-how-california-ranks-among-best-places-live51 Reasons California Is America's Best Statehttps://archives.sfweekly.com/exhibitionist/2011/08/31/51-reasons-california-is-americas-best-stateIn actuality, California offers one of the best lifestyles in the world. The climate is generally agreeable and enjoyable, particularly if you've had the misfortune of being landlocked in one of the more dreary, wintry or humid parts of the United States. The beaches are world class, and the vistas coming around the bend on PCH are as beautiful as any in the world.
California ranks last in quality of life. It’s in the article. The other issues are all discussed there too.
This is called statistical malpractice, something alt-right types are notorious for. Given the same exact data sets a rational and non-ideological person would come to a radically different interpretation.
All the data is linked in the post. Unless you think sites like statisticbrain.com are white nationlist blogs.
Okay, identify just ONE SINGLE credible East Asian researcher, scientist, thinker, geneticist or academic who believes or postulates that East Asians are ***ON AVERAGE*** intrinsically or genetically more intelligent than Africans. Good luck.
No, I’m talking averages here. Surely you’ve heard of The Bell Curve?
Your link states that Chinese anthropologists are more amenable than American and Polish anthropologists to the concept of distinct human races. Okay, now what? How do you draw from that an inference that the Chinese believe some races are superior or inferior? Which leads to another bit of alt-right idiocy -- the notion that if there are identifiable human races, then it must follow that there are hierarchies among said races. Oh, let's hear from a leading Chinese geneticist:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzyoMqxppR0
The Chinese aren’t hampered by things like white guilt.https://lesacreduprintemps19.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/on-the-concept-of-race-in-chinese-biological-anthropology-alive-and-well.pdf
You conducted a poll of all 1.4 billion Chinese, did you? From your own link:The question has received more than 400 answers from Zhihu users, which include some of the most representative perceptions of the ‘white left’. Although the emphasis varies, baizuo is used generally to describe those who “only care about topics such as immigration, minorities, LGBT and the environment” and “have no sense of real problems in the real world”Zero Hedge is a ridiculous alt-right blog. This kind of thoughtless sophistry and jumping to conclusions that satisfy your biases are among the myriad reasons your ideology is in the toilet.
And they have a word for diversity loving, PC whites.https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-21/baizuo-new-derogatory-term-millions-chinese-are-using-describe-americas-white-left-r
The United States simply provides an environment more conducive than their home countries. It's the same reason Europeans fled their various shitholes for the United States.
If it’s good for the U.S. that they come here, it’s bad for the country in which they left.
They are now but they weren't then.
Italians, Greeks, and Irish are white.
As a snapshot in this particular time, perhaps. But the fact that they fled their various basketcase countries for the United States ought to make it obvious to you that economic, cultural and civilizational circumstances don't remain fixed in time for all eternity.
And their home countries are run much better than most of the non-white immigrants’ countries are.
Even if that were true, that would exclude the vast majority of whites in the United States, probably including you. There are no Italian, Greek, Irish, Russian or even Swedish signatories of the Declaration of Independence. These ethnicities became "white" only in the 20th century.
The U.S. was founded for White Europeans by White Europeans. It is a white country.
Not when the states they're moving to also harbor immigrants, illegal or otherwise. A common move is from CA to TX. Well, TX has its fair share of both legal and illegal immigrants. And Harris County is more liberal, more progressive and more diverse than Los Angeles County. So immigration isn't the reason people relocate from one state to another. If they wanted to avoid immigrants they'd move to Mississippi, Montana, Idaho, West Virginia, The Dakotas, etc. But those states aren't exactly attracting a great influx of new residents.Replies: @FvS
Muh white supremacy. And I’m sure immigration has had nothing to do with why people are leaving.
No, California most definitely does not rank last in quality of life. That’s merely the opinion of one ultra-rightwing contributor to Forbes. It’s based neither on the facts or on reality.
U.S. News did the ranking.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings
https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-has-worst-quality-of-life-in-us-study-says
https://mises.org/wire/why-california-has-nations-worst-poverty-rate-1
This is called statistical malpractice, something alt-right types are notorious for. Given the same exact data sets a rational and non-ideological person would come to a radically different interpretation.
No, it isn’t, and no, you couldn’t. Those are all from official sources.
Okay, identify just ONE SINGLE credible East Asian researcher, scientist, thinker, geneticist or academic who believes or postulates that East Asians are ***ON AVERAGE*** intrinsically or genetically more intelligent than Africans. Good luck.
C’mon, you can’t be that naive. I gave the link on how Chinese anthropologists view the existence of race. I would bet money that most of them view their race to be more intelligent than Africans. Especially judging by how they treat them. Unfortunately, it’s hard to find Asian scientists openly talking about the issue of race. The video you posted tells us nothing about how they view current races, just how that one scientist views humanity’s origins.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/15/world/africa/kenya-china-racism.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/05/27/china-and-india-have-a-huge-problem-with-racism-toward-black-people/
Zero Hedge is a ridiculous alt-right blog. This kind of thoughtless sophistry and jumping to conclusions that satisfy your biases are among the myriad reasons your ideology is in the toilet.
You need to get over your childish refusal to look at the sources that are linked in the articles.
The United States simply provides an environment more conducive than their home countries. It’s the same reason Europeans fled their various shitholes for the United States.
Okay, that has nothing to with what I said though.
Well said.
If you’re white and not a white nationalist by now, you aren’t paying attention.
Libertarianism needs white nationalism, but at least libertarians consistently call out the Federal Reserve. Tucker never has to my knowledge, maybe because he doesn’t understand or isn’t interested in monetary policy. But monetary policy affects all aspects of the economy, from wages to international trade. Tucker is libertarian on foreign policy, among other things, and the last time I checked, he’s no Bernie Sanders or Ocasio-Cortez when it comes to domestic policy. Does he favor socialized medicine, public higher education, expansion of the welfare state, and government housing for all? His main gripe is with many corporations’ love of cheap foreign labor, big tech censorship, and “free” trade. Oh, and he thinks the rich need to be taxed a little more. Can’t say I disagree with him there. However, I don’t even see any evidence that he is a race realist. I like him, but he seems like the quintessential civic nationalist to me, though that could just be the mask he has to wear.
The foreign labor aspect does need to be reined in (hence why libertarianism needs racial/ethnic nationalism). Google is hardly a private company as it was seed funded by the CIA and NSA. Facebook regularly colludes with Israeli/U.S. Intelligence. It is not unlibertarian to oppose “private” companies that become arms of the state to shut down opposition. The whole free trade vs. protectionism debate is more complicated than either side will admit. Both policies create winners and losers to varying degrees as Trump’s tariffs have shown, and the Federal Reserve mucks up things either way. There is no free market in America.
I’d hate to see what would have happened had the 1965 Immigration Act OPENED our borders. Dios mio!
Make America Mexico Again! Reconquista!
She is at the very least a castizo. She looks to be very high percentage European caucasoid and might actually qualify as a white Hispanic.
Walls work. 25 billion is peanuts. But it is only one step out of many towards vastly restricting all immigration, legal and illegal.
Are you kidding me Ron!?
"Therefore, all measures of criminal activity, such as incarceration rates, should be adjusted to the size of the high-crime-age male cohort. This allows us to properly estimate the relative crime rates of Hispanics and whites of the same age."
Wrong.
Nationally, the overwhelming majority of Hispanics are Meso-American, with only a small minority being Caribbean.
Damn, btfo.
What about DWIs and reckless driving?
The only category where they actually beat out blacks.
Good rebuttals to Ron on Hispanic crime.
Steve Burton:
http://www.whatswrongwiththeworld.net/2010/03/reply_to_unz.html
http://www.whatswrongwiththeworld.net/2010/03/unz_again_1.html
Jason Richwine:
https://web.archive.org/web/20100507021902/http://www.alternativeright.com:80/main/the-magazine/model-minority/
https://web.archive.org/web/20101206202419/http://blog.american.com/?p=11237
https://web.archive.org/web/20101206202419/http://blog.american.com/?p=11237
The narrative that whites are ‘vanishing’ from California would greatly diminish if all the half-white children are counted. Since most of the 22% of babies that are interracial in CA are half-white, counting the half-white components of each leads to a higher number of aggregate whites in CA.
Except half-whites aren’t white by definition.
As the typical Mexican is 40% white, the offspring of a Mexican and a white American is going to be 70% white, 30% AmerIndian. Appearance-wise, such a person would just look like at Italian or a Univision Spaniard.
With 30% Amerindian blood, americoid features would still be visible. Italians and Spaniards are pure caucasoid. Carlos Santana is probably close to what you’re talking about. Here is a picture for reference that shows your typical mestizo as well.
If not the the continuous topping of of new Hispanics and Asians, both populations would just vanish into the white population through interbreeding.
No, you would still have “pure” mestizos and pure whites. There would just be a segment of the population that was trending towards castizo.
Not much. I guarantee that if you met a 70% white, 30% Amerindian, you would consider them 'white'.
With 30% Amerindian blood, americoid features would still be visible.
White is a subset of 'caucasoid'. Arabs are Caucasoids too, and Italians and Spaniards are both part-Arab.
Italians and Spaniards are pure caucasoid.
To be fair, it's difficult to find all the information one needs because the MSM doesn't report on all murders. Aside from some high profile murders of whites by illegals, I'm sure some fall through the cracks because the MSM doesn't investigate the killer's immigration status.
Seriously, why don’t you just find me the names of TEN ordinary white victims murdered in predatory crimes by illegals during all of 2018? There’s that Mollie somebody in Iowa who became a national sensation, so you just need to find 9 more…
Well done.
Well, look. If you and your friends want to rant and rave about Hispanic immigrant crime when the data shows it's not really all that much of a problem, you just come across like crazy nutjobs to normal people.
I am at a loss in understanding Ron’s focus on the specific number or rates here... and again leaves me with the conclusion that Cochran is right on some things Ron is just crazy.
Given that 25 year record of absolutely unbroken failure, don’t you think that maybe you should consider trying something a little different?…
Translation: C’mon, you stupid goys, why won’t you just give up and accept your replacement?
Except, white identity is on the rise, counter-semitism is all over the internet, and Trump got elected. The MSM, Hollywood, and Democratic Party spew anti-white propaganda regularly. Whites everywhere are finally waking up, and it’s scaring TPAB shitless. Mr. Unz, come to the light side. Be a pro-white Jew for a change.
Not much. I guarantee that if you met a 70% white, 30% Amerindian, you would consider them 'white'.
With 30% Amerindian blood, americoid features would still be visible.
White is a subset of 'caucasoid'. Arabs are Caucasoids too, and Italians and Spaniards are both part-Arab.
Italians and Spaniards are pure caucasoid.
I guarantee that if you met a 70% white, 30% Amerindian, you would consider them ‘white’.
I guarantee I can tell the difference.
White is a subset of ‘caucasoid’. Arabs are Caucasoids too, and Italians and Spaniards are both part-Arab.
Yes, but I was referring to the greater race of caucasoid to distinguish from americoid. As for the Berber marker found in Italians and Spaniards…
In Europe, M81 is most common in Portugal (8%), Spain (4%), as well as in France (0-6%) and Italy (0-4%), where strong regional variations are observed. M81 is especially common in western Iberia, notably Extremadura (15.5%), Andalusia (13.5%), southern Portugal (11%), the Canary Islands (11%), north-west Castille (10%) and Galicia (10%). The highest percentage of E-M81 in Europe is found among the Pasiegos (30%, n=101), an isolated community living in the mountains of Cantabria.
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_E1b1b_Y-DNA.shtml
https://notpoliticallycorrect.me/2016/01/10/refuting-afrocentrism-part-2-are-italians-black/
Italians were not considered ‘white’ in the US* well into the 20th century. This is a well-known fact.
*in a social/cultural sense, even if they were allowed citizenship.
Incorrect. That is a myth. Even if Italians were considered to be a lower-tier of white, they were still considered to be white.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/03/22/sorry-but-the-irish-were-always-white-and-so-were-the-italians-jews-and-so-on/
White nationalism itself has no economic ideology inherently attached to it. However, many white nationalists may share certain views on economics and politics.
Do conservatives want the same things as Democrats? If no, they should be white nationalists.
Whether or not the races are predisposed towards particular political ideologies, we do know for a fact that non-whites in the U.S. vote overwhelmingly Democrat. This can’t be disputed.
I tend to agree. Personally, I’m in favor of a moderate Ron Paul libertarianism within a white nationalist framework along with some pro-marriage and eugenics policies thrown in. And maybe some compromises on international trade as well.
This then begs the question of what white can actually RUN.
The biggest organized crime syndicate of all…the U.S. government (along with a bunch of Jewish subversives). Only retards get into street level organized crime and risk the long prison sentences.
No, fascism is merely the modern version of monarchy that exists in the absence of a validated nobility. Merely because the various monarchies were / are either neutered or eradicated, does not negate their political requirement. "Fascism" reasserts the primacy of the tribal nation, as monarchy did. Its entirely historical when correctly seen from that perspective, as it was our government for most of our history.
Fascism in its inception was a distinctly localised phenomenon, growing out of the specific concerns and obsessions of Italians in the immediate post-WWI period
Which is an utterly typical pre-Christian hero figure or demi-god. See Hercules, Perseus, etc. These figures were the basis for the gods that later came to rest atop modern religion, and were generally mythologized ancestors whose genealogy often validated kingship.
The movement that then emerged was one with a militant, revanchist, emboldening ideology that emphasised the superiority of the fascist “man of action” as a heroic figure, unafraid of death, and only living through things greater than himself.
And Jewry is mobilizing the long-dormant power of King David, just as dozens of other new Kingdoms drew on the founding myths to validate their existence. The world over. What is your point? The West today desperately needs a resurgence of a non-Jewish mythological root to found renewed self-affirmation and defense.
Il Duce, as the memes at the time ran, was mobilising the long-dormant power of Rome and recreating the ancient empire of the Mediterranean.
Not critics. Enemies. They ignore the same language from their friends.
Critics of Fascism claim that “the mobilizing power of such language would be exploited fully by Fascism.”
And such sweeping opinions by individuals then have more credibility than sweeping opinions by men today (many being propagandists) because?
Ettore Conti, one of Italy’s leading industrialists at the time, was well aware of this failure. In his diary entry for the 2nd of January 1940, he comments on the mood of the country in the period before Italy declared war on Britain and France in 1940: “We may well be on the verge of war: but never has a country wallowed in such a state of apathy and inertia: never has Fascism been held in lower esteem by the Italians.
This could be a statement from any communist actor in the USA in 2017, amidst communism's constant offensive against Trump. How is this innately-less-contextualized historical statement from a man in the 1940's more credible compared to similar statement's by propagandists of today? The inevitable whittling down of all contextual factors, with the passage of time and recorded history, does not lend historical statements more credibility than modern statements that seem to run parallel to them but that have serious credibility issues in light of modern clear contextual factors.
The failings of the dictatorship are now finally evident to all, even to those who had supported it in good faith…
Said the NYT, WaPo, HuffPo, etc.
The gradual but constant worsening of the quality of leadership, the insolence of the officials in every branch. the spread of profiteering combined with the most idiotic constraints imposed on every aspect of private life have turned the Italians into an amorphous herd that has no sense of will, of faith or inspiration. And with this country in this state, they want to take us to war.
These events still do not lend credibility to sweeping statements about the supposed morale and perspectives of the Italian people. Many Germans, and nationalist the world over, would rather die than turncoat in spirit and politics and live (which is essentially giving into something worse than death). I doubt that deep spirit has changed much between generations, unless the Italians are a different breed. To state as much would be racist.
Conti’s misgivings were borne out in the events that followed. Italy’s “heroic” Fascist army was given a severe drubbing by the lowly Greeks, while in Africa, its large forces in Libya and Abyssinia were rounded up by British forces that they greatly outnumbered.
A florid and meaningless piece of fiction writing in regard to their will and spirit.
Rather than living one day as a lion instead of a thousand years as a sheep, the Italian Fascists were living one day as sheep and then surrendering in their droves to the British Lion.
Yes, we know who won WWII.
The Italian air force and navy fared no better. The Battle of Taranto saw the Italian navy dealt a devastating blow that also reassured the Japanese that a torpedo bomber attack on Pearl Harbour would be feasible. The weakness of the Fascist Italian troops was also a major factor in the collapse and encirclement of the German army at Stalingrad.
You sound like a Jew or an anti-White negro. "Martial failure", which is inherently based in a particular nation's access to troops, technology, natural resources, and their ability to mobilize all of those to defend their very specific geography, and how all of that stacks up against similar factors for their opposition, has zero to do with the validity of any specific political system. To state otherwise is sophistry. Italian defeat no more invalidated "fascism" than German defeat did Fascism being a term that is is so politicized today that it is only applied by enemies of Europe and other resistors of Jewish controlled States. It is never applied to oppressed states that are Jewish controlled, even when apt. See Jewish controlled communist Russia for an clarifying example, whose government is never deemed to be "fascist" but instead is often apologized for.
As a martial code, Fascism clearly and resoundingly failed.
You write like a sophomore. Not only is your attempt to bait founded on weak ground (see earlier above in regard to your attempt to link the political ideology to fighting factors), your straw-man counter arguments that you are putting into the mouths of your proposed debate opposition are also weak. Not only would a discussion in regard to the reasons as to why the Italians were defeated not be centered on the supposed fact that Italian fighters were "supposedly weak", the fact that you think that this is what such a debate would look like outs you as intellectually inept in terms of how you perceive war and its logistics.
The easy way out of this for apologists of Fascism is to blame the Italians themselves, and point to the fact that in the modern era they have never been great fighters.
What's that? The 75+ year late equivalent of "you said that you were going to bash my brains in, and my brains are still in my head...so nyah nyah"! Again, you argue like a Jew or a low rent anti-European negro. In more civil language, you argue like a propagandist without clever copy but a deadline to meet all the same. As I prior stated, self defense and the appropriate politics for it has nothing to do with conflict outcomes: win or lose. Those politics are much more pertinent to the recognition of an existential threat, the will to prepare to fight, the will to fight, and the government during and after that time assuming victory. That's more explanation than you deserve given your silly rhetorical antics. Real world logistical, resource, technological, and geographic factors are what matter to victory once the war is on, which adults would be willing to converse over. However, you chose to ignore those in order to make a propaganda argument in an attempt to make a bad, utterly failed attempt to degrade any state other than Israel who wants to have an ethnically interested rulership (you know, the de facto modern definition of "fascist").
But Fascist Italy’s military performance still seems to fall below even this level, when, according to the rhetoric of Fascism, it should have soared high above.
Discredited how, precisely?
The Germans, by contrast, fought doggedly in support of their discredited regime, until almost the entire country had been conquered and devastated.
Again, see earlier comments about parallels to modern propaganda. "Insolence" is a bullshit / semantically meaningless accusation based in political hostility (ie: propaganda), "profiteering", as we can view in today's partisan propaganda is propaganda, especially if we would hold both sides accountable for the same charge, and "constraints on private life" are common in wartime but this, in fact, sounds like the typical modern SJW and subversive Jew bullshit that we don't let everyone do everything all of the time.
Conti’s diary also highlights the the insolence of the Fascist officials, the profiteering, and the constraints imposed on private life.
Read: a state who had to crack down on foreign-group / communist subversion.
It is not hard to infer what was really happening here: a non-meritocratic state,
LOL. My word, your writing and thinking sucks. At least edit for positional concision before you submit an article. Ideology is a prerequisite for nearly all meaningful political positions for the party who is in power. Again, your essay is sophomoric.
in which position was determined by ideology,
LOL
party position,
Right, because in a war in which Europe's existence was at stake they should have let political libertarianism run rampant. Never mind that it was and is a vehicle for the very subversion that brought Europe to war in the ideological sphere, with the Red Army to the East as a result.
and a Fascist form of ‘political correctness’ was firmly in place,
Clearly. Wait, I almost moved on. Where is your support for your statement...? I missed it. It doesn't exist? Oh shoot, that's inconvenient. Again, your writing is sophomoric. In the parlance of your peers: it sucks.
and those representing it were clearly abusing their power.
Sure. Because seventy plus years later "apathy and inertia" aren't hack journalist (propagandist) terms that lack the breadth and depth of what is likely endless unrecorded contextual detail, not to mention the recorded detail about the wider conditions in the nation that both existed and led to that moment. Instead, the Italian people were merely apathetic and lazy. Sounds accurate.
The apathy and inertia mentioned are typical manifestations of passive aggressive behaviour, of people doing as little as possible and dragging their heels rather than resisting outright.
This speaks to narrative that you just invented out of thin air.
This speaks of a populace tired of bombast and propaganda,
See my prior response. Cool story though.
whose main defence was utter cynicism and barely disguised contempt for their leaders.
Your propaganda style is absurdly unsophisticated. This essay is pretty much akin to a creative writing submission. Alright, buddy. I'm about ready for you to bring it home with your big conclusion ;-) Tell us about bad fascism, a conclusion built on your stated narrative house-of-stone.
It is easy to see how these feelings would work themselves out on the battlefield, and lead not only to defeat but abject defeat.
Uh huh.
For people in the modern, degenerate West, Fascism sometimes has an understandable appeal.
Uh huh.
Its iconography, which still resonates through the ages, projects an image of strength and virility that appeals to those far from its reality.
LOL!After all of that I knew that you wouldn't disappoint with one last swing for the fences, which resulted in a stylistically ridiculous sentence whose two clauses both fall on their face: the first rhetorically and the second both rhetorically and stylistically, And yes, since you attempted to end on a silly poetically-styled "point", your style is fair game. Your first attempted point about degeneracy, which normally would echo a clear point in the essay, doesn't connect with a single thought in the essay. Your second clause is a hilariously florid attempt at an impactful concluding statement. A general writing tack that, again, is best left behind in sophomore English class. I do like how you used "glamour" and "death" together though, like your mind is still on the t-shirts at your job at Hot Topic (because sophomore, remember?). What you gave up was any meaningful connection to persuasive writing let alone historical pertinence (even if we were for a moment to allow you your perspective).Ron, I respect your equal opportunity editorial policy. However, given its lack of content, letting this essay past the editorial board is a choice that I don't fully understand.Replies: @Heros, @ia, @FvS
But history reveals that Fascism has its own degeneracy, one that led to its defeat but also enshrined its glamour in death.
Right, because in a war in which Europe’s existence was at stake they should have let political libertarianism run rampant. Never mind that it was and is a vehicle for the very subversion that brought Europe to war in the ideological sphere, with the Red Army to the East as a result.
Racial libertarianism not political libertarianism, specifically with regard to the allowance of Jewish subversives in one’s country. Incidentally, life under fascism sounds boring as hell, the equivalent of letting the Mormons take over where all that’s left for entertainment is watching the Hallmark channel and playing board games.
Whether races exist due to evolution or the will of a cosmic being is ultimately irrelevant. The fact remains that they do exist. The question is, do whites deserve to have countries of their own?
Race is an important aspect of individual and group identity, different races build different societies that reflect their natures, and it is entirely normal for whites (or for people of any other race) to want to be the majority race in their own homeland. If whites permit themselves to become a minority population, they will lose their civilization, their heritage, and even their existence as a distinct people. – Jared Taylor
As long as whites continue to avoid and deny their own racial identity, at a time when almost every other racial and ethnic category is rediscovering and asserting its own, whites will have no chance to resist their dispossession and their eventual possible physical destruction. Before we can seriously discuss any concrete proposals for preserving our culture and its biological and demographic foundations, we have to address and correct the problem we inflict on ourselves, our own lack of a racial consciousness and the absence of a common will to act in accordance with it. – Sam Francis
Yes, we’re all familiar with your anti-white anecdotes. Poor blacks and mestizos/Amerindians are worse and in greater numbers relative to the their total populations.
Ah, the wonders of a multiracial society and a Jewish controlled culture.
The Secret Relationship Between Rappers and Jews
http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/Entertainment_News_5/article_8500.shtml
White guilt.
Imagine if millions of poor whites were pouring across the border into Mexico, insisting on instruction in English rather than Spanish, celebrating the Fourth of July instead of Cinco de Mayo, buying up radio stations and broadcasting in English rather than Spanish, wanting voting papers written in English rather than Spanish, etc. Imagine that these were whites had lower IQs on average and higher crime rates than the native Mexicans. And imagine that some of these whites were muttering darkly about breaking off a chunk of northern Mexico, kicking out the Mexicans and making it an all white enclave. Do you think the Mexicans would consider this a wonderful exercise in diversity and welcome it as cultural enrichment?
Jews aren’t white and play a role in the white guilt narrative due to the Holocaust. Organized Jewry actually uses white guilt as a weapon against whites. I doubt many Jews even know about Jewish involvement in the slave trade. It’s certainly not well known among gentiles, and it’s kept that way on purpose.
In Netflix documentary Alt-Right: Age of Rage, Mark Potok, Jewish director of the SPLC, was caught with this on his office wall.
Foreign policy is important, but immigration should be the number one issue for whites.
It’s do or die time for white America. We can’t afford another mistake.
So why ask the question in the first place if you understand why we’re opposed to it?
Embarrassing levels of cope. Your post was the first comment, was profoundly idiotic, and then you got BTFO six ways to Sunday. What’s even worse is that you were waiting by your computer for hours until a new article showed up so you could post it.
Brainwashed from day one.
I have an app that informs me when a new article is posted. I am not a low-tech wigger like you are.
I’m surprised. Judging from the quality of your posts, I would have guessed that you didn’t know how to work a smart phone.
Remember that my time is much more valuable than yours.
So valuable that you stop what you are doing to comment right when the new article is posted?
False. You are even below blacks. You obviously don't understand the concept of variance. Remember, your IQ is just 70. You have nothing in common with successful whites (like me), and are not even really part of the same race (just like feces are not technically part of the human body).Someday, you might figure out why successful whites like me keep you out of respectable society, and why white women hate you with the fire of a million suns. Remember Peterike's Law, which is :"White Trashionalism is nothing more than the bottom quintile of white men getting angry that the bottom quintile of white women are no longer being forced to be with them."Sux to be you..Heh heh heh hehReplies: @Rich, @FvS
The bottom 20% of Whites is still head and shoulders over the top of every other racial group
You wish you were white, but your post reeks of Jew.
If Rand Paul was Ann Coulter on immigration, he could win the presidency.
Keep in mind if you and your ilk were given land on which to form a country, it would be worse than Haiti.
Yes. Before 1965, the U.S. was worse than Haiti before we learned of the wonders of diversity and allowed our white population to decline.
If only you had the IQ to figure out why successful whites (like Donald Trump) go to great lengths to keep White Trashionalism on the fringes, and why the movement can’t attract almost any women.
Do seriously not understand why the (((power elite))) fear white nationalism? Do you not understand that you are just a stooge for a bunch of traitorous scum? What am I saying? Of course you do. As for women, many, but not all, will tend towards political ideologies that are safe and grant social status.
Nobody fears White Trashionalism. It comprises of the most loserish, inept individuals on Earth.
Do seriously not understand why the (((power elite))) fear white nationalism?
Because academia, the MSM, and Hollywood are controlled, to a large extent, by Jews. Those institutions are obviously vital to shaping public opinion. As for your other point, the Federal Reserve has played a large role in the decline of the middle class and doesn’t get talked about enough these days. But there are many factors involved.
Nobody fears White Trashionalism. It comprises of the most loserish, inept individuals on Earth.
Do seriously not understand why the (((power elite))) fear white nationalism?
Nobody fears White Trashionalism. It comprises of the most loserish, inept individuals on Earth.
Wrong. Why do you think it’s always the Alt-Right that has to deal with deplatforming and censorship? There are three things that TPAB want to prevent at all costs: a racial awakening among whites, an end to the Federal Reserve, and a genuine non-interventionist taking power.
And yes, if your subrace was given land on which to make a country, it would be worse than Haiti. In pre-1965 America, you and your ilk were rightly kept out of respectable society (or send to die in Korea as cannon fodder).
I have news for you. Throughout most of this country’s history, white Americans were white nationalists. It was almost taken for granted.
Quit embarrassing yourself. You can’t even understand a simple graphic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average
I never claimed that the consumer price inflation was high at the moment, although it is for some things and not for others. However, in general, inflation destroys and discourages savings. Even a simpleton like yourself can understand that a dollar saved today is going to be worth much less in 20-30 years. Also, part of the reason that real wages have stagnated is that consumer prices have not been allowed to fall in many cases despite huge productivity gains that would have otherwise made things a lot cheaper for workers. And last but not least, there is a massive asset price bubble and rents are skyrocketing.
Ghettos were always bad and those that inhabited them have been here for 400 years. Asians have not made the US streets worse. Hindus are only a danger to engineers.
Yes, poor people have always existed, but remember which races get all the special treatment and concern from our glorious leaders. No one cares about poor whites except for white identitarians. Scarcity is a fact of nature and more Asians in the U.S. means less everything for whites. And why should an American company hire an Indian over a white American? It is astounding that this kind of idiotic disloyalty is allowed to continue. It’s bad for white Americans, and it’s bad for India for having lost a skilled worker. More diversity always equals less whites as a percentage of the total population. Does Japan need more white people? Does Mexico need more white people? Does Nigeria need more white people? Does Saudi Arabia need more white people? How do you think the citizens of those countries would answer such a question?
The US always had a border with Mexico.
Yes, but immigration levels were nowhere near where they have been since 1965.
Ron Unz has explained at extreme length that the 1965 act did not increase net immigration from what it would have been. It merely replaced a large portion of Latin American immigration with a smaller amount of Asian immigration.
Yes, but immigration levels were nowhere near where they have been since 1965.
False. In a debt-heavy society like this one, deflation is far more pernicious than 2% or even 3% inflation.
2-3% inflation is better than 1% inflation. 2-3% is the Goldilocks level.
Saving bad, debt goooood. Now spend, spend, spend little goyim!
The chart you linked belies your extremely inadequate understanding of the issue. Among other things, $21 Trillion of world QE has in fact failed to create inflation. Gold has fallen by 40% and oil by 50%.
Why don’t you tell us what’s false in the chart. Be specific. Also, expansions or contractions in the money supply are not the only factors that affect the price of a good or service.
Apparently, you don’t know the difference between Nominal GDP and Real GDP.
When goods and services get more expensive, is this good or bad for poor people and those on a fixed income?
Only because new construction is being blocked. Rents, in fact, have plateaued in the last two years.
Source pls.
Translation : FvS is innumerate, and cannot grasp why deflation is far more frightening to debt-holders than inflation is.
Saving bad, debt goooood. Now spend, spend, spend little goyim!
That chart implies that the standard of living in 1910 was higher than in 2019. It fails to account for the fact that GDP per capita rose 10x over that period.
Why don’t you tell us what’s false in the chart. Be specific.
Translation : FvS is innumerate, and cannot grasp why deflation is far more frightening to debt-holders than inflation is.
Saving bad, debt goooood. Now spend, spend, spend little goyim!
That chart implies that the standard of living in 1910 was higher than in 2019. It fails to account for the fact that GDP per capita rose 10x over that period.
Why don’t you tell us what’s false in the chart. Be specific.
Translation : FvS is innumerate, and cannot grasp why deflation is far more frightening to debt-holders than inflation is.
State manufactured inflation and state manufactured deflation are both bad for the economy. Deflation caused by market forces is desired. In a world with a stable, market driven money supply, long term mild annual deflation is heaven on earth. Productivity gains mean falling prices due to less labor content per unit of output… Deflation (and the concomitant rising real wage) is the true purpose of a properly functioning economy. The fact that it is the kryptonite of the fractional reserve financial system is a problem for the bankers to solve (or avoid). Unfortunately, the bankers have solved it by inventing the ultimate “end run” in the form of unlimited credit creation by central bank fiat. In this way they impoverish all of us chronically, rather than personally suffering the acute consequences of their folly.
That chart implies that the standard of living in 1910 was higher than in 2019. It fails to account for the fact that GDP per capita rose 10x over that period.
The chart implies no such thing.
Your comments about your precious chart indicate that you believe such a thing. It only counts inflation, but does not depict GDP growth alongside it.
The chart implies no such thing.
Ron Unz has explained at extreme length that the 1965 act did not increase net immigration from what it would have been. It merely replaced a large portion of Latin American immigration with a smaller amount of Asian immigration.
Yes, but immigration levels were nowhere near where they have been since 1965.
The results speak for themselves. Try paying attention to reality every once in a while.
https://cis.org/Report/Legacy-1965-Immigration-Act
Your comments about your precious chart indicate that you believe such a thing. It only counts inflation, but does not depict GDP growth alongside it.
The chart implies no such thing.
No. The fact remains that Quantitative Easing saved the economy by offsetting technological deflation, and the world needs to be doing more, not less, of it.
Boy, are you going to be in for a rude awakening. All QE achieved was a doping of the horse. If you think our economy is on solid footing right now, you’re delusional.
Your comments about your precious chart indicate that you believe such a thing. It only counts inflation, but does not depict GDP growth alongside it.
All the chart shows is how the dollar has been devalued over the years. Standard of living takes into consideration many different factors. Pretty simple stuff here. However, I do believe that the devaluation of the dollar has led to a decreased standard of living for Americans than would have otherwise been achieved with more stable currency.
Yeah, sure seems like Hispanic immigration was greatly reduced. That must be why the white population went from 85% in 1960 to 55% today, with the majority of the new immigrants being non-white Hispanics.
Race Trashionalism is exclusively the domain of a) blacks, and b) WN wiggers, who represent a genetically defective form of white where genetic waste matter collects. These are the only two types of people who see race in everything.
By that logic, it should be more popular with blacks than it was with America’s founders/framers.
The founders/framers had nothing in common with contemporary White Trashionalists (many of whom are gay, among other things).
er….. you are referring to a time when even Irish people (let alone Jews, Italians, and Poles) were not considered ‘white’. Today, under the official US census, Hispanics, Arabs, Persians, and even Afghans are counted as ‘white’ in the US Census.
This again… “White” just means European caucasoid. Irish, Italians, and Poles are, and always have been, considered white. However, that doesn’t mean all whites were considered to be equal. Ashkenazi Jews are hybrids with Semitic blood and are distinctly non-European in their traditions and culture. It was a mistake to consider them white. Hispanics (Mestizos/Amerindians), Arabs, Persians, and Afghans are obviously not European caucasoids. This attempt to rewrite history started with (((Noel Ignatiev’s))) book “How the Irish Became White.” Perhaps you are familiar with him?
Remember, slavery was the law of the land at the time too.
Slavery was, of course, wrong, but white advocacy and slavery advocacy are not the same thing. Bringing African slaves to this country was one of the greatest mistakes in U.S. history.
Plus, only property owners (which you would not have been) did not have the right to vote. Remember this – they didn’t want you to vote any more than they wanted black slaves to vote.
It’s amazing, you’ve been wrong so many times, but you keep digging yourself further in a hole. It’d be best to cut your losses and run.
False. They were only considered white in terms of voting rights, but NOT in a social and cultural sense. Ask any non-WN Italian, and he will set you straight.
This again… “White” just means European caucasoid. Irish, Italians, and Poles are, and always have been, considered white.
High IQ Indians belong in India. Their country needs them badly. As a people, they need to focus less on mobile phones and more on basic sanitation. Luckily, it seems they’re beginning to head in the right direction, though with a long way to go. India remind me of Nigeria. Many of the intelligent individuals leave, and they are the ones that the rest of the world are exposed to. But you cannot judge a people just by their most intelligent. You must take them as a whole, and in doing so, Indians (and Nigerians) are found wanting.
https://www.healthissuesindia.com/poor-sanitation/
Islam seems to have a retarding effect on pretty much every population where it is practiced. What can be said of Hinduism in this regard? I don’t know enough about it.
Careful! Exhibiting any basic knowledge about Indians might get you branded as an Indian by the WN 70-IQ crowd. This has happened to me, Thorfinsson, and DB Cooper. But you are right. The idiots who conflate caste, skin color, and IQ have never gone outside into the real world. If the high IQ Indians in America are high IQ because of light skin, I haven't seen them. The typical high IQ STEM Indian is short, dark, and (I think) South Indian.Replies: @FvS, @jeff stryker
Wrong again, Sport. The South Indian Brahmins, the most intelligent large group in India, are quite dark.
The typical high IQ STEM Indian is short, dark, and (I think) South Indian.
Though, not negroid. They appear to be caucasoid, mongoloid, and proto-australoid hybrids. South Indians are usually thought to be less attractive than North Indians, are smaller in stature, and not very athletic compared to the rest of the world. As some commenters have noted, this seems to have resulted in an inferiority complex, and they try to overcompensate where they can…in matters of intelligence and the pursuit of wealth. This chip on their shoulder is why they get offended so easily. They remind me of Jews, and they practice the same kind of ethnic nepotism to boot.
Given South India’s population of around 300 million (1 billion India total), the Indian-American population of around 4 million, and the level of immigration/emigration restrictions, I think it’s safe to say that there is significant selection bias going on. Thus, we should be cautious about reading too much into Indian-American performance.
You see the same behavior with mestizos in Mexico.
That’s great. I hope their ongoing war on public defecation continues to pay dividends.
Regarding GDP and economic development, I want India doing well so their people will desire to stay in India and stop emigrating to the West and perhaps some in the West will wish to return home.
We whites in America and the West want our countries back. It’s nothing personal.
Some articles refuting Afrocentrism.
https://racialreality.blogspot.com/search/label/Afrocentrism
Durocher – “Northern Europe’s case also fits quite well with some HBD models: a people operating in an environment so harsh that it most selects for certain traits (trust and adherence-to-values especially, but also intelligence), while also retarding civilizational development. No contradiction there.”
It’s amazing that this is so hard for some people to grasp.
Afrocentrists are a joke, and Diop is the father of Afrocentrism. Barely worth any effort at all.
She’s a non-white, Muslim woman which means she’s given much more leeway than a white person would be.
This is an interesting theory. Maybe the ancient Egyptians (talking Early Dynastic and Old Kingdom) were some kind of proto-mongoloid group or even related to the Dravidians of India (who may have been dark-skinned caucasoids, mongoloids, or both themselves). Only caucasoid and mongoloid types seem have built any civilizations of note. And of course, in the Americas, we see pyramid building, use of hieroglyphics, and worship of similar gods to those in Egypt. Who knows if any of it is true, but it’s fun to think about. Or maybe they were all negroids, stretching from ancient Egypt to ancient Greece, ancient China and Mesoamerica.
Said to be the first pharaoh of Egypt
The pharaoh Khufu
Olmec colossal heads and art found in the Americas
If a white person says what she is saying, they get branded a Nazi and disavowed immediately. She actually has public support from some Democrat politicians and constituency.
. . . which puts "Nazi" in a whole new light.
If a white person says what she is saying, they get branded a Nazi . . .
Imagine you switched the populations of Mexico and Japan but left the laws and government the same. Do the countries stay the same? As the population of Central Americans increases in the U.S., the U.S. will become more and more like the countries where this replacement population came from. No sane White American should want the U.S. to become just another Latin American ****hole.
I’d take Southern and Eastern Europeans over Mexicans any day of the week, you D&C Jew. Most Mexicans and Central Americans are half-breed savages.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Italian_Americans
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Irish_Americans
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Greek_Americans
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Polish_Americans
Of white Europeans of solid character. Southern and Eastern Europeans did not fit that criteria.
Most did. I suppose you could make the case we should have been more stringent in our screening process. Of course, it was difficult in those days.
Is Franklin wrong?
Yes, but it seems most of his compatriots did not see things the same way. Again, why didn’t they just limit immigration to Anglo-Saxon Protestants if that was the only group everyone thought of as white?
What the U.S. proved is that Europeans could put behind them the past divisions and come together in peace. This worked because Europeans are racially and culturally similar, at least when compared to any other group.
Wasn’t Franklin simply putting into practice HbD race realism? Was he not comparing WASPs, who have fairer skin, to other groups who are (slightly) darker? Why would he make that statement about their skin tone and their relationship to understanding democratic ideals?
Plenty of English are a bit darker. Quite simply, Franklin was not and never has been the ultimate arbiter of racial matters. He certainly did not mind the French at all.
So you believe in magic dirt, i.e. civic nationalism. Because did not nativists claim that their ways of life would be swamped by outsiders? How are Catholic Poles and Italians able to assimilate to WASP culture? Furthermore, why were the Quota Acts of the 1920’s focused on minimizing the impact of Eastern and Southern Europeans?
Because the United States was ethnically and religiously diverse from the start and didn’t have centuries of history, the ability to welcome many different European sub-races and ethnic groups was not nearly as difficult as it would have been in had something similar been tried in an established European country. Sure, there was some resistance to welcoming certain groups, but it is currently exaggerated for political purposes. “Civic nationalism” only works when the people in question are racially/ethnically similar and when the experimental country is in its infancy. Surely, you understand that an Italian has more racially/culturally in common with a Norwegian than they do with an American Indian, Asian, African, or Arab? And before we get into a debate about the racial make-up of Italians, let me assure you that the Berber gene marker is found in a very low percentage.
Regardless, this idea that we must let Mexicans conquer the United States because we let Italians immigrate in the past is completely ridiculous.
In case anyone is interested, this is what the National Socialists thought about who was to be considered “Aryan.”
But they were English.
Yes, but among the English you have Anglo-Saxons, Normans, and the more ancient British types. Different sub-races. So, many English are non-white by Franklin’s own definition.
Why not? Was he not a wise man on a number of different fronts? What is your argument that he was not employing “race realism”?
He was employing race realism in that he understood there are different European caucasoid sub-races. However, as history has shown, the term white was used to mean all European caucasoids. Why can’t you get it through your skull that the 1790 Naturalization Act did not limit citizenship to Anglo-Saxon Protestants? Clearly, not everyone in the government sided with Benjamin Franklin.
Although, using your own logic, if Franklin was not this “ultimate arbiter”, then the Sailers and Derbyshires and Vox Days of the world are also not the “exclusive keepers” of racial matters.
Never said they were. In the end, it is a matter of some subjectivity as to which European caucasoid sub-races should be included under the “white” label. I, and many others, prefer to include all of them. That doesn’t mean they are all equal.
Wait, what? America…ethnically and religiously….DIVERSE? You do realize you are engaging in heresy on this blog, right?
There were English, Scotts, Irish, Germans, French, Dutch, etc. in the U.S. from the start. There were also Protestants, Protestant offshoots (Quakers), and Catholics.
Which are?
I’ll include at bottom of reply.
Since when? Who has made this case that the values of freedom, tolerance, equality, and individual rights only “work” for “like peoples”?
The modern United States proves this, with all its hostile groups. Jews, Blacks, Mestizos, Asians, and Muslims all pursue their own groups interests at the expense of whites and each other. There have also been many studies on how diversity lowers social trust and creates conflict. I can link if you wish. The negative effects of multiculturalism and racial diversity are exacerbated the more racially and culturally different the groups in question are. Again, Europeans are more racially and culturally similar to each other than to anyone else. This should be so obvious that I don’t even know why I need to say it. That it why the civic nationalist experiment in the United States, despite some speed bumps, worked so well for so long. Whites are also better able to adhere to abstract ideals, have high IQs, and are more socially courteous.
Not according to the Italian or Norwegian, and assuredly not to the nativist! Besides, why would WASPs make concerted efforts to paint Italians, for example, as NOT having a number of things in common?
Are Englishman more racially and culturally similar to Italians, Saudi Arabians, Kenyans, Japanese, or Hondurans?
Regardless of their “gene marker”, Italians were considered on the low end of the European ethnic totem pole and were considered to be “rats” that ought to be “drowned”. Of course, I do not feel that way, but that was the sentiment at the time. Were people in error for such harsh attitudes? Refer to the “Mascot” visual.
How widespread were these attitudes, and how did they compare to attitudes towards non-Europeans? Here’s an interesting little record of crimes committed by various ethnic groups in the U.S. Even back then, we can see that Mexicans were more crime prone than anyone else.
Except Mexicans aren’t “conquering” anyone. Although, did not the WASPs feel similarly about non-WASPs? So why should we give a free pass to their ancestors if it was believed that they would hasten the demise of our WASP created nation?
They literally are, through immigration (legal and illegal) and breeding. Soon, they will have retaken all the territory they lost after the Mexican-American war. The scale of the mestizo invasion from the South dwarfs anything the nativist WASPs feared from the other Europeans. The numbers aren’t even comparable. Most importantly, the vast majority of Mexicans and Central Americans are non-white mutts who have their own strange fusion of Spanish and Amerindian culture. They are much, much worse than Italians ever were. Many of them worship some kind of death goddess named Santa Muerte.
WASP organized crime is called the CIA.
Should we believe (((Bendersky))) or the primary source material?
Those groups are NOT “sub-races”. They are ethnic groups. They had different ways of life. They did not get along particularly well due to preconceived notions of superiority. You are trying to change the historical narrative here to suit your own purposes.
Wrong, they are distinct European sub-races and ethnic groups, although there has been a great deal of mixing over the years.
No, the term “white” has been used to describe a group of people who meet certain criteria. It is NOT exclusive to Europeans.
White means European caucasoid, period. Sometimes the law reflects this reality, sometimes it does not. Arabs and americoid/caucasoid mutts are not white. Is Saudi Arabia a white nationalist state? Is La Raza a white nationalist organization? Don’t be absurd. You fools are trying to destroy white identity by rendering the term meaningless. It will not work.
It was designed at that point in time for a particular group, but the Founding Fathers enabled future generations to determine for themselves who would be eligible. So, in other words, Americans, in this case white Europeans, thought for themselves, without being labeled as a “race traitor”. So American whites can make their own decisions about race and culture.
The Founding Fathers would laugh at the idea that anyone other than Europeans could be considered white.
Exactly, subjectivity. But those groups are not “sub-races”.
There is overlap between ethnicity and sub-race, but see the previous pic for an understanding of the various European caucasoid sub-races.
Equal in what way? Ability? Under the law?
Genetics and culture.
Diversity at its core. You are also forgetting African slaves and Native Americans.
Yes, but they were not citizens.
You will also need to include the aforementioned European ethnic groups as well, because they also focused on their own kind without regard to others. That would be a HUMAN personality characteristic.
Nowhere close to the degree we see now with the various racial and religious groups that are actively working to destroy the European people and the European identity of the country. The Italians and Irish did not want to eliminate America’s distinct pan-European character because they were EUROPEAN. The Jews are the only old ethnic/racial group that has stayed consistent right from the beginning in pursuing their own interests at the expense of everyone else.
And with the various European groups in the States, we clearly saw that as well. YET, somehow, they figured it out, along with the non-European groups.
See above.
On one level, but they historically had their gripes and grievances and fought like mad to get to the top of the American political and social hierarchy. No different than other groups.
Yes, it is different. The various European caucasoid sub-races and ethnic groups have much more in common with each other than they do with all the other racial groups and Jews/Muslims. This can’t be disputed.
That would be Fake News.
Haha, cope.
Despite those similarities, the Englishmen weren’t too happy that the Italians came in for gimmedats and free stuff.
Sorry, I wasn’t aware that the welfare state was as robust back then as it is now.
What is the actual source for Table 6? Where did this data actually come from? Who collected it?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2831353/
That would be your opinion. Subjectivity, right?
No. The numbers don’t lie.
That would be your opinion. Subjectivity, right?
No. The numbers don’t lie.
From a psychological standpoint, we have an easier time identifying and sympathizing with people who look like us or who belong to the same in-group as us, even though that grouping ultimately was constructed arbitrarily… If it makes you feel better about yourself or feel more important to insist that there are these “sub-races” like Coded Nordic or Danubian Nordic or Borreby or Tronder or Alpine, go right ahead. It comes down to an opinion that holds little bearing on most white Americans, aka “normies”.
On race.
imgur.com/a/nC8XkSE
No, white may mean Arab or Hispanic or Jew or Persian. It really depends on one’s mileage.
Is Saudi Arabia a white nationalist state? Is La Raza a white supremacist movement?
Perhaps you are trying to pigeon hole white identity to conveniently fit your square peg. “White identity” may mean something different to me or you. So your shaming and virtue signaling is impotent here. Do white people not have agency? Can they not make their own decisions about whiteness and “white identity”, or must they submit to your definition and expectations of behavior?
Sorry, everyone can’t be white. Just like I can’t be black or Asian.
Regardless, Africans and Native Americans were part of the landscape. Eventually, they became citizens, just like Asians. That’s how America works.
To our detriment, as we currently witness all the anti-white/anti-European groups coalescing against us.
Except our identity was originally WASP, NOT European, whose identity was destroyed by non-WASPs.
No, it wasn’t.
The Know Nothings of the 1850’s in particular believed a “Romanist” conspiracy was afoot to subvert civil and religious liberty in the United States and sought to politically organize native-born Protestants in what they described as a defense of their traditional religious and political values. The nativists did not care that the Irish, Italians, Slavs, and Poles were European; they were concerned that they would forever change their nation’s character for the worse. Now, when you are calling out those immigrants coming here for the same exact reasons as your ancestors, you insist they are incapable of immersing themselves into our society. Do you not realize the hypocrisy on your part?
Not comparable, as I have pointed out a million times. The cultural and racial differences between Europeans are of much lesser magnitude compared to the differences between white Europeans and other racial groups. So, even if the Know Nothings were wrong in their beliefs about other Europeans, it does not necessarily follow that similar beliefs wouldn’t be true for non-white immigrants, especially since they are of different races and non-European cultures. Italian, English, Irish, and Polish racial interests can align because they are all sub-races of the larger European caucasoid racial group. Take the European Union, for example. I’m not in favor of it, but it is holding together at the moment. What do think would happen if you started adding Middle Eastern and African countries into the mix?
So much for white unity!
That was back when whites were the vast majority and blacks were segregated. They couldn’t even have imagined a United States where white Europeans were the minority. So, they were still plagued by petty European ethnic divisions. Now, with all the other races added to the mix, suddenly those old divisions don’t seem so important. I guarantee they would have taken Italians, Poles, and Greeks over Mexicans, Hondurans, and El Salvadorans any day of the week. White haters certainly don’t discriminate between the various European ethnic groups.
More Fake News on your part.
Culture of Critique.
By 1930, the foreign-born were less likely than natives to be incarcerated for more serious crimes, as evidenced by their lower commitment rates at every age to state and federal facilities.”
That’s interesting, except we have to look at the different groups individually rather than lumping all “foreign-born” together. The data clearly showed that Mexicans committed way more major offenses than anyone else. The shysters do the exact same thing nowadays when they compare “immigrants” to “natives” and then just lump all races and ethnic groups together from their respective sides.
You mean YOUR interpretation of the numbers do not lie to YOU.
Whites are going to become a minority in this country very soon. This is irrefutable.
Common in certain aspects, assuredly. But what does Heritage American even mean, not just to normies/the mushy middle, but to the Alt Right? Consider the immortal words of Vox Day…
What is with your obsession with Vox Day? Notice how he prefaced his argument. That seems to indicate that he knows most of his readers (white advocates) do not share his opinion. Maybe a U.S. that was WASP only would have been the ideal. I disagree, but I can see why some might make that argument. But a country that is made up of multiple European ethnic groups is definitely going to function MUCH better than one that is made up of Europeans, Asians, Africans, Arabs, and Amerindians. That is truth!
The ethnic composition of Saudi citizens is 90% Arab and 10% Afro-Asian. The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is ethnically diverse and not represented by one single race or ethnicity, especially the west side of the country, namely the region of “Hijaz”.
If Arabs are white, that makes Saudi Arabia a white nationalist state. And if Jews are white, Israel is a white nationalist state ,and the Holocaust was white genocide. Do you see how absurd this is getting?
Hispanic or Latino to refer to “a person of Cuban, Mexican, Puerto Rican, South or Central American, or other Spanish culture or origin regardless of race” and states that Hispanics or Latinos can be of any race, any ancestry, any ethnicity.
Historically, in Latin America, a person had to be 85% European caucasoid to be considered white. I think the cutoff should be higher, but that’s just my opinion. However, if we make all Hispanics white, that would mean a person that was majority Amerindian could be white. That’s pants on head retarded. White means European caucasoid. End of story.
I was not asking for your apology. So, do white people not have agency? Can they not make their own decisions about whiteness and “white identity”, or must they submit to your definition and expectations of behavior?
Hello, Rachel Dolezal.
Not to nativsts.
Yes, to nativists. You honestly believe that an Englishman thought he was as different from an Irishman as he was from a Chinaman or a Negro? C’mon. Pull your head out.
Not if. Were they wrong? Yes or no.
A little of both. They were right in that there were some definite speed bumps like I said (organized crime), but they were ultimately wrong that it would lead to the demise of America and WASP culture. WASPs have stayed powerful in America all throughout its history.
You mean they are ethnicities whose racial interests may align due to a common cause. Otherwise, as it has been demonstrated clearly, the Irish, Italians, and Polish in particular were not viewed as being capable of properly handling WASP political values.
Yes, but how widespread was that belief? Clearly, the Know Nothings weren’t influential enough to stop it.
They couldn’t have imagine America as a non-WASP majority, either.
True. However, I believe Protestants have always outnumbered Catholics in the U.S. Could be wrong though.
Petty? Hardly. They were downright patently offensive.
Petty in my opinion. Most of it was Protestant vs. Catholic nonsense. I don’t particularly care about Christian squabbles.
Indeed, sport. Today’s white normies have taken it upon themselves how to address racial and ethnic matters that you find disagreeable.
Yeah, by committing collective suicide.
LOL, no, it assuredly does not. Saudis are “white” and they are “Arab”. A group of white people can display their ethnicity in their own way. We can show our race and ethnicity in separate ways. They are not “one and of the same”. You are projecting your absurdity!
White is a racial designation. Do you understand where you went astray yet?
Exactly, YOUR opinion.
Only on how high the European caucasoid percentage should be. I don’t know of anyone in history who thought it should be lower than 85%.
Doesn’t work that way.
Yes, it does. A black person is a negroid, Rachel Dolezal.
Except it did lead to the end of WASP culture.
No, it did not.
Quite popular in the 1840’s and 1850’s.
Not enough, and not when they were writing the 1790 Naturalization Act.
Similar to the Alt Right?
This story is still being written. Whites elected Trump for a reason. He ended up being a conman like many feared, but the underlying motivations for his election have only been inflamed.
A number of Alt Righters are concerned. You do realize that, to them, the rise of whiteness relies on the return of Christian patriarchy, right?
As long as they welcome agnostics, I don’t really care if they end up being the dominant force. I like Christians, just don’t care for Christian universalism very much.
Again, that would be your opinion. So, basically, white men/women MUST adhere to your line of thinking, otherwise they are “cucks”. That is not a winning strategy.
All white peoples around the world are threatened by simple biological extinction due to loss of homelands where we can securely live and breed, competition from non-white invaders, hybridization with non-whites, and outright predation by non-whites. You are either opposed to this, or you are not.
Source?
FBI. Do you really not know anything about how crime rates differ by race in the U.S.?