Wasn’t his last column for Unz about why Russia would not intervene in Syria? And that was about ten days ago.
 

Replies: @Sean the Neon Caucasian

[For the last two years he has told his readers Ukraine was about to collapse.]

If this ain't collapse, it'll do till collapse shows up))

Yours is the theory that the Russian Liberals, the zio-oligarchs and the banksters are spreading through their media. It is pure garbage and there is a good chance that such theories emanate from the CIA dis-information division.

I happen to be from another country in which exactly the same propaganda pattern was applied - through the domestic collaborators the CIA was spreading the "news" that the domestic leader opposed to them actually works for the US.

When one day the US killed this leader, the story of him working for the US disappeared and the local "liberals" switched over to a story of the leader's hidden billions of dollars, which were never found.

If you are so stupid to have believed that Putin works for the US, then this is only your problem and nobody else's.

Also, any person with a heart feels for the destitute migrants flooding Europe, Muslim or not. This is what you call "Russian media trashing" Western Europe. I wonder why the Western European media are not trashing the cause of these destitute migrants: Usrael, Turkey, Saudi and, of course, EU itself. The "leading" EU countries were happy to bomb Libya to bring "democracy". These migrants look like a comeuppance for their greed. Did any Western leader resign for bombing Libya, did any go to jail?

I will not engage in any further commenting with you because you have a Micky Mouse understanding of the World.

Replies: @Chaban, @annamaria

Yeah I read that. It seems Putin is ready to throw Assad under the bus if need be. Folks think there is an opposition to globalization, but there is none. These so called alternative websites are just part of the coin in getting folks to think that there are actually forces out there opposed to this, while they are part of the process as well. If the stakes were so big, Putin would have acted on both Ukraine and Syria with more bold action, but he can't even put S-400s n Syria to protect his own people, much less the Syrian Army.

As with the GOP and the Democratic Party in America, Putin and co are a false opposition to the advancement of globalization. If there was indeed a fight against globalization I think Putin and co would be a bit more bolder in there geopolitics. I see no grand alliance being made as it seems the BRIC nations area all in bed with the West, with maybe the exception of Russia, but if in fact Putin is throwing Assad under the bus , it means one thing. In reality, he is one of them!!!!!!

Replies: @Chaban

What aspects of WWII, and who was the hardcore anti-zionist ?

Replies: @Chaban

There's a remarkably efficient division of labour among you trolls. Troll 1 said Putin is soon going to be defeated. Troll 2 - you - says Putin is working for the other side. Troll 3 will say Putin is irrelevant. Does this smooth organisation happen accidentally?

Replies: @Chaban, @tbraton

Exactly! You put it absolutely right. Fully agree with your observation and I am pointing on the same threats in my other comments. For that I was immediately labelled as an "agent of Fifth column" . We see that every genuine patriot of Russia, and therefore the antagonist to Putin and his policy, automatically becomes an "enemy" of Russia. Even the slightest criticism gets immediately attacked either by his army of the professional shills or by his gullible fans.

Agree on the "Saker" as well. I've long ago noticed that the Saker's narratives are always pro-Putin. This is why I stopped reading him. Too bad that he has so many followers and these people are keeping to buy into it all.

Just this week, Russia passed one of the weirdest laws ever: banning the use of biblical scriptures that could be assimilated to “anti-semitism”. How the hell do you enforce such a law?
 

Replies: @Chaban, @5371

[attacks on the messengers instead of the messages]

No, I pointed out the strangely perfect coordination of the messages.

Replies: @Drapetomaniac

"But to me, their politicians are just like ours. And that includes Putin. That’s all."

Absolutely. Who did false flag bombing against its own people in 1999? Yet we may and should have sympathy for Putin and Russia and we should root for their cause simply because they are underdogs trying to rebalance the ecosystem of power. The unipolar world with only one predator is the worst nightmare for common people. In terms of freedom, liberty and diversity of ideas the unipolar world will be a disaster.

"...their politicians are just like ours"
Correct. But the story is not about a person whom Mrs. Clinton calls "Hitler," but about the Russian federation' straggle to fight off the approaching and amoral parasitoids. As for where to educate your children, this is your personal solution and only yours. This is a free country.

>> why a guy who has been predicted the imminent collapse of the U.S. for years decided to make Florida his home

Lot of russkie BHA flowing into Crimea now - rents are sky high!

That leaves California, and Florida.

Florida's got shall-issue weapons-carry, and StandYour Ground.

Plus: a network of Hebrew-Immersion Bilingual Public Charter Primary Schools. Your kids WILL be able to get into Unit 8200 and graduate into a comfy job at Lockheed or Raytheon.

Once you get over the NorthAmericanBarbarian willingness to present stale pita breads to naive ashkenazim at the hummus joints....... it's not so bad.

Replies: @tbraton

VVP is the only leader in the world daring to stand up to the Zempire. And that's why some people are getting nervous and think that an army of trolls slandering him will have any success. But it will not. Not in this day and age when there are enough sources of real info.

Replies: @utu

I fully agree with the 9/11 Truth "conspiracy theory" that 9/11 was a false-flag attack. Because that conspiracy theory is be based on solid evidence that cannot be, and has not been effectively disputed or dealt with by anyone. Whereas the conspiracy theory being floated on this thread about Putin being some sort of a super-Zionist double agent is obviously being trotted out by Zionist trolls for the purpose of sowing confusion in the minds of readers. If not, you would offer at least some evidence to back it up. But I have seen none. Which leads me to conclude you are simply adhering firmly to the Mossad motto; "By deception thou shalt make war." 5th columnist posing as anti-war commenters (like you) and anti-war writers (like the editors at the Jew-run web site, anti-war.com) are as easy to spot as orange jump suits in a snow bank. You just have to know where to look.

Thank you for the link. Yes, indeed, the law you mentioned was enacted on 11th of November 2015 by the Russian State Duma and signed by president Putin. It's full title: "Article 3_1. Features of the application of the legislation of the Russian Federation on countering extremist activities in respect of religious texts":

http://docs.cntd.ru/document/420317140

It is insidious law, in fact. It implies that none of the religious writings - Bible, Koran, Torah, etc, can be interpretated and used against the religious feelings of the believers. It is surely designed to act in favor of the Jews in Russia (google Berel Lazar, the Chief Rabbi of Russia) to satisfy their constant complaints about "growing anti-semitism in Russia". The trick is that this law can work both ways, and both are working against Orthodox Christians, i.e. the law can interpret and ban as "anti-semitic extremism" the citing of the quotes and excerpts from the Bible where the Jews are described negatively and blamed for many sins (Pharisees, etc)...And, at the same time, this the same law protects such extremist, fascist and misanthropic religious books as Jewish "Talmud", "Torah" and "Shulchan Aruch", factually tolerating the extreme hatred like this: "Act 2: Akum (Christian) are not to be considered by Jews as people" or this: "Law 26: Benefit from the fraud against Christian belongs to the Jewish owner".

So, as I said, the masks dropped. It is clear that Putin signed this law for a certain purposes. One must be completely blind to not see it. And he actually doesn't hide his very warm relationships with Israel and with those Chabad guys, also known as Lubavitch, the Hasidic sect. Some call them the "Zionists"...No comments, as they say.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/foreigners/2014/11/vladimir_putin_chabad_what_s_behind_the_russian_president_s_close_relationship.html

http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/20775

P.S. "Appeal to the General Prosecutor of the Russian Federation"

"Appeal to the General Prosecutor of the Russian Federation Vladimir Ustinov" and the signing of it by about 500 persons, including 19 members of the Duma."

"The "letter of 500" and the authors and signatories are accused of "anti-Semitism" because that letter demands from the Attorney General "to officially begin a criminal process in order to prohibit in our country all the religious and national Jewish organizations as extremist."

"In the "Letter of 500" this demand is motivated by the opinion of the authors and, therefore, the signatories, that the existing Jewish law, according to which such entities conduct their work, and summarized in the book "Shulchan Aruch", published in Russia in 2001 in Russian language, is subject to the relevant articles of the Criminal Code, the Law "On Countering Extremist Activity" (2002) and Art. 13 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation ("the establishment and the functioning of public associations whose objectives are aimed at inciting social, racial, national and religious hatred"). The "Letter of 500" also refers to a work of certain Dr. K. Ecker who interprets the laws of the Shulchan Aruch."

LOL

If you prefer FauxNews' presentations of "facts on the ground" this is your choice. For others, the alternative media is the only way to learn about important world events. The Saker blog is highly appreciated for the efforts to deliver the news that the highly controlled MSM stay mum about.
Do you know a person or organization that are always right with their predictions? For instance, Brooksley Born was right about the dangers of "new financial instruments" while an army of big shots had been trumpeting the exceptional health of the exceptional American economy. And then came the printing press and socialism for the mega-banksters.
Why such a gloating about the obvious difficulties of the Russian federation and particularly about the troubles in Russian economy? The country had experienced first a dissolution of the former USSR some 25 years ago and then a plunder guided by Harvard Boys (the best and brightest imbeciles). Could it be that your visceral hatred towards The Saker is just an expression of hatred towards everything Russian. Rather disturbing.
http://www.ibtimes.com/us-economy-2016-here-are-3-important-trends-watch-2245967
http://www.warcriminalswatch.org

Replies: @Chaban, @Philip Owen

Put a cock in it, nitwit.

Bang on about the Faker. Brilliant nick name by the way. To a lesser extent he did quick about terms to other "leaders" amongst the the Donbass insurgents. Especially the assassinated ones, now the majority of the original leadership. Prudent man Strelkov. There was one promising a march on Rome (err I mean Kiev). I can't remember if he is still alive. Most of the dead ones opposed Minsk.

Replies: @Philip Owen

Sorry to break it to you but the world is not awash in oil and the energy return on energy invested (EROEI) is declining rapidly. What you see as excess oil is actually financial malinvestment due to low interest rates and the Federal Reserve QE program in support of banks and maximizing of loans.

Since 2009 the fracking cowboys in the US increased production by about 4.6 mbd while Saudi Arabia raised production another 1.1 mbd. This temporary excess supply will continue as long as the existing wells can produce, although the depletion rate is about 80-90% within three years. Based on production costs of 60-70 US$/barrel the American frackers will lose about 500+ billion in 2016. Previously many frackers bought protection through contracts to sell the oil at about 90 US$/barrel. These protections spread the losses for 2015 but will not save the frackers in 2016.

Yes ALL oil producing countries, including RUSSIA and the US, are suffering economic contractions due to this short term excess supply. Russia has the advantage of selling some oil, and most natural gas at a prearranged price in a fixed contract, often with a take or pay clause. As such the Russian losses are less than the US frackers who must sell at a loss or in the case of natural gas simply flare it off.

Replies: @Philip Owen

You made me smile: Your post was longer than mine, therefore you could be suspected (according to your criteria) of being one of the "full-time propagandists with endless time on their hands to write long posts in comment sections."
Please, relax and try presenting your thoughts in a legible manner.

[And by the way, I am sick of the Russian media constantly trashing Western European nationalists who refuse to be genocided through population replacement.]

Lying scum like Chaban, Soarintothesky. Regnum Nostrum, et alii multi: "See, we found this article in the Russian media criticising Western European nationalists. Putin is a monster!"

Me: "Here are plenty other articles in the Russian media which support the nationalists and criticise the invasion."

LslCSRNeam: "See, we told you only one point of view could be expressed in the Russian media. Putin is a dictator!"

Me: "-"

Replies: @annamaria

You might very well be right Garttard, but what choice do we have?

At least if we vote for Trump we're voting against their Eternal War© in the Middle East. We're voting against destroying more Syrian lives and as a repudiation of Bush/Obama's wars on Iraq and Libya and Ukraine and Russia. We're saying no to that. What more can we do?

We're telling the rest of the world that we aren't all mindless savages and drooling, blood-stained orcs, just waiting to be assigned the next innocent victim for our military to ravage to the cheers of 'USA, USA!!'.

No, we're saying that that is not what America is about. That is NOT who or what we are, regardless of the Zionist fiend that has our government and media by the hair of its head. We are voting to keep our souls intact. If it's all a ruse, it's on them, not us. For me, that's something.

Replies: @Chaban, @Corvinus, @Karl

(I feel bad for the lemmings that actually believe a wall will be built, etc.)
 

"So I know he will be the next “commander in chief”. And I know nothing will change."

Are you that impotent that you believe you can't do something about this situation? Are you really seemingly just throwing your hands in the air and letting yourself get bulldozed?

"Trump has obviously been picked to be the next president. I’m not sure why, but it is pretty obvious to me."

So, convince me. Where is your direct evidence indicating that Trump has been selected?

Replies: @Chaban

It's remarkable how people don't understand this. They see a few tepid attacks directed at Trump and imagine this is proof the elite is against him. Meanwhile, the ignore the endless 24/7 coverage being given to him in the mass media. This is the standard Br'er Rabbit gambit: "Oh please, Br'er Fox, don't allow Trump to win the presidency!" when that is exactly what they want. If they opposed Trump they would marginalize him as a nutcase and then ignore him. Instead they praise him with faint damnation.

No one can deny that Obama has been their bitch but look at how they attack him in the media as a muslim, socialist or foreign born. All this does is increase his credibility among liberals. "If the right-wing is attacking him, he must be doing something right." Notice that they never criticize him for what he really is, a warmonger, fascist authoritarian and Zionist lackey.

The Zionists treat anyone who isn't 100 percent lockstep obedient to their every whim as a traitor, and you can see the kind of invective they've hurled at Obama, despite his being the most obsequious waterboy they've ever had in the White House. No less a person than Trump himself has said that "Obama is the worst thing that ever happened to Israel" clearly pandering to Zio-paranoia that their servants are secretly working against them.

Then again this might not be due to their insanity and arrogance so much as a strategy to distance themselves from the notion of Jewish dominance of our political system ("if Jews controlled the government, Obama wouldn't be arguing with Netanyahu" when such public disagreements are merely staged to create the illusion of presidential independence). So it is with Trump. Having the Zionuts denouncing him only strengthens his appeal while at the same time creating the illusion that the Zionist have no real power in our system, which is far from the case.

Replies: @MarkinLA

My guess is the elites, having an instant read on the pulse of the population thanks to global 24/7 electronic surveillance, understood they needed a conduit for people to let out some steam; hence the Trump card.
 

Replies: @MarkinLA

The disappearance of the People's Paradise in and about 1990?

Magna Carta? And the English political, not religious, reform from feudalism to Republicanism more or less?

Civil Rights movement in the US ca. 1964 forward?

Separatist movements in Europe today which will be accomplished without bloodshed? India gaining independence from England, and most African states being given their independence with little or no bloodshed?
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Arguably Europe would have been saintly to have kept them as colonies, but there would have been a lot of blood shed.

There is an electoral path available to us, and that is the way it will play out, unless whites are out-voted by third worlders...then the highways will run with blood.

Joe Webb

Replies: @Corvinus

“No, you are the intellectual impotent by thinking you can change things with a vote.”

If millions of whites collectively put their foot down, it has been demonstrated that power can shift. Moreover, there are a number of instances in American history where citizens initiated monumental changes through the ballot, not the bullet. Progressive Era reforms, for example, like the Meat Packing Act.

“This system was put in place via the most violent means every designed by men. It was done on an industrial scale in the first half of the 20th century.”


Right, because New Deal programs and Civil Rights legislation, for example, were “allowed” by these high-powered individuals.

“If you actually believe they will let it slip through their fingers through an “election”, you are seriously deluded.”

There is no delusion on my part. Perhaps you ought to look inwardly.

“History proves that every single real change always comes through violence. Every single one! So spare me the haughty comment, ok.”

Please define “real change”.

“How do I know Trump is their guy? He is everywhere 24/7, with the fake opposition (to tap into the widespread disillusionment with the establishment) craftily doing its job.”

So, Trump is actually a stooge? And this “fake opposition” are also part of this elaborate ruse. Yet, you offer no specific proof, just mere speculation.

“But reading that type of stuff makes people like you, “Well, we will show them, those elites.” But I can see why you are all buying it.”

Right, because YOU know better than everyone else. Are you a soothsayer?

“Yeah. Joe six packs is going to outsmart the elites. They are a million moves ahead of you, at all times. They are into all your emails, texts, phone conversations, Internet searches, buying habits, etc. Through all this they have an extremely accurate psychological profile of all of us. They can anticipate all your moves.”

All of us, huh. They know exactly what we are going to do. Who is their support staff? How are these powerful people able to keep taps on EVERY American? And you know this, how?

“If it’s any comfort, there will not be any differences regardless of who “wins”.

Are YOU part of this conspiracy?

I get it. Trump is a false flag operation!

What is the purpose of saying what you are saying? For the record, I don't believe what you say is true. But what do you intend to mean?

If things are as you say - that the forces arrayed against you are all-powerful - then why do you even have an opinion about them? They are - to all intents and purposes - God. They are omnipotent, omnicient, infallible, and all-mighty. You should bow down before them and pray for your salvation.

I have often wondered - and more recently am more seriously entertaining the possibility - that the many "false-flag" narratives that have become so common on the internet are.................false flags. That so-called "false-flags" - not the things themselves but the rumor of the things - are planted by the very same people that people who believe in them suspect of having carried them out, in order to neutralize any meaningful political action against the hostile elite that rules over us. It is a Keyser Soze like ruse to make them seem invincible and thereby undermine any opposition to thier agenda.

Take Alex Jones, for example. He routinely promotes just about every false-flag story there is. Those stories are probably about half of his content. But what does he recommend you do as a result? Start a new political party? Take action? Take to the streets? No. Just drop out, dig a bunker, go underground, and buy the survival supplies he advertises on his website (which he gets paid for, by the way). Knuckle under to the New World Order, which good old Alex assures you is completely unassailable. What he offers is a council of surrender masquerading as an exhortation to resistance.

The only measures they took were against small European farmers…
Now, whose special interests does that serve? Ha ha! Is it all starting to make sense now?
 

It was a necessity to neutralize the greatest nationalist force (quickly transformed into “Nazis” by the Kremlin propagandists… Remember that the U.S.S.R. created the whole “holocaust” narrative) they would not suffer any setbacks in their plans to flood Europe with “refugees”.
 

And in case the situation went awry in Ukraine, the two great powers made sure Russia would “get back” Crimea to act as a buffer in the underbelly of Easter Europe (where the greatest resistance against the “refugee” crisis was to be expected) to make sure Israel would be safe, by making sure the empire kept full control of the Black Sea.
 

Replies: @Chaban, @Avery

Didn't get past.. "Something I wrote in another thread:" Ha ha ...Your quoting yourself as if it is some basis of fact or you are some kind of authority on the subject. Something I wrote in another thread... "Never trust someone who quotes themselves from another thread...they generally turn out to be Wankers.."

"Brownshirts were created in response to violent communist disrupters and agitators, who at the time, having already slaughtered tens of millions in Eastern Europe, sought to overthrow Germany."

Well, I was under the impression that the Brownshirts or S.A. or Gymnastic and Sports Division, the private army of the Nazi Party, was formed in August 1921. Now I realize that there were various Communist inspired revolts that occurred in Germany (Munich and Berlin come to mind)and other parts of Europe (Hungary) after the end of WWI in November 1918, but they were all short-lived, lasting a few months at most, before they were suppressed by governmental authority using the army bolstered by the militias which were rampant in Germany at the time. The loss of life was measured in the low thousands, mostly comprised of the communist insurgents themselves. I am not clear where you get that "slaughter of tens of millions in Eastern Europe." Are you confusing historical periods by any chance?

All of the 'alternative' news outlets (all of those with any degree of independence and significant readership in any case) will be targets of the several competing intelligence agencies wishing to shape discourse. The ability of the agencies to do this will depend on the environment, awareness, personality, sympathies and approach of the producers. Zerohedge is (my perhaps imperfect assessment) far less manipulated than, example given, TomDispatch (a blatant case) but no matter the outlet there is always some degree of risk.

I would place zerohedge in that category where anti-corporate, libertarian ideology (yes, there is such a thing, as opposed to corporate controlled or manipulated tea party, e.g. Koch brothers) shapes its discourse on the right, over on the left there are also examples, for instance Global Research, Voltaire Net and more recently The Intercept are all to some extent shaped by ideology. Of course intelligence agencies will look at every opportunity to exploit these outlets regardless. The Intercept appears to have been co-opted rather quickly by western intelligence via its bank-roller Pierre Omidyar; on the Ukraine discourse (Glenn Greenwald's disclaimers notwithstanding.)

A common modus operandi is to associate events that cannot be concealed with the wrong party (false flag is pervasive method of disinformation) and embed facts together with inventions in the discourse. Consortium News is a past master at this, for instance Robert Parry consistently shaping the discourse to point to incompetent or maverick Ukrainian military downing MH 17 with a Buk SAM, as opposed to the Ukrainian SU 25 combat jet which he steadfastly refuses to so much as mention much less consider. The point of this is to create a face saving or less damaging escape for the western aligned parties in the event the initial propaganda efforts blaming Russia fall apart. Better some drunk or incompetent Ukrainian military performed the shoot down in the public eye than a Ukrainian air force jet on orders from Kiev. A secondary possible effect (the CIA would hope) is, when (more likely than if, considering the incompetence involved) the west's MH 17 story falls apart, the Russians will allow for the alternative line put forward by Parry in return for concessions in the spirit of 'Realpolitik.'

Another method is to play on peoples' sense of helplessness while steering them away from the essential underlying parties and motivations by keeping them preoccupied with outrage. That's Tom Engelhardt's method. A short research pulls up CIA associated funding underlying TomDispatch, originating with the Ford Foundation, laundered via The Nation Institute.

Just a few short but critical examples. The best one can do with all of this is too keep track of the metadata threads (events than cannot be denied) while being careful not to be sucked into the spin. Assembling a focus with this information you almost never will get a perfect picture but done competently, one should certainly get a far clearer understanding of what's up.

A footnote would would be the Russians recognize the western press model is so corrupt, they don't need to engage in overt deceits but stick to the facts as much as possible to gain credibility, and when this is not an option, the preferred fallback technique is 'lies by omission.'

And of course the biggest pool of fish are simple to exploit:

“Sometimes people hold a core belief that is very strong. When they are presented with evidence that works against that belief, the new evidence cannot be accepted. It would create a feeling that is extremely uncomfortable, called cognitive dissonance. And because it is so important to protect the core belief, they will rationalize, ignore and even deny anything that doesn't fit in with the core belief” - Frantz Fanon

@Garttard

lol wut?

In reality, Putin does have a tolerance relationship with Israel for several reasons which Saker covered in detail before and most of the good commenters here know very well. In the briefest, you deal with the dangerous gorilla-like servant first, which is the US, and if you survive this, then you deal with his evil master Israel.
 

Replies: @Kiza

Has the ignore function button gone? Rehmat isn't funny anymore.

The Nazis considered Slavs as sub-human and butchered them, prior to invading Russia, the German Army was told to treat the Russians as sub-human and they did. They butchery they committed was beyond belief.

I'll give you a example since you have idea what you're talking about.

When Poland was partitioned in '39, the part the Russians took over was rather bloodless, they did take over the property of the wealthy Jewish and Polish towns folk, installed Russian teachers in the schools, made the study of Russian language mandatory.

When your precious Nazis rolled in '41, they leveled entire towns, butchered Poles and Jews like crazy, enslaved hundreds of thousands of others - men, women and children. Most of those brought into Germany as slave died as a result. What happened in Russia proper was even worse.

Then there was General Pant Ost, that's what the Krauts really thought of "real Russians" and Slavs in general.

Nice try white washing the Krauts.

Replies: @Chaban, @Philip Owen

NATO couldn't conquer even India, tard, not to speak of Russia.

Only an idiot (like you) would call the 1917 Bolshevik revolutionaries in Russia "a tiny group of Wall Street mercenaries". And only an even greater idiot (again like you) would claim that Russia's "demographic problems" are due to a "number" done by 1917 Bolshevik revolutionaries. Stupider-than-stupid, counterfactual crap like this, is exactly why you shithead Neo-Nazis masquerading as "white nationalists" are spat upon, used as a pissoir, and not taken seriously by anyone with half a brain - least of all the Western "white masses" whom you're supposedly the "saviors" of.

Blockhead!

Post 169: "I sense Hasbara in a lot of the replies. They are a “flash mob” against what the Saker has to say. As a general rule, the people who frequent the Unz Review do not lower themselves to cheap ad hominem arguments."

Replies: @Chaban

What was so cheap about reminding that ad hominem arguments are no arguments? This is UNZ review; the readers appreciate the coherent and well-argumented reasoning.
Do you really believe that an open confrontation of two nuclear states could lead to something good?

Replies: @Chaban

You're a ridiculous circus geek going through his patter, louder and louder the fewer people are listening to him. Shut up, get lost, never come back.

Replies: @Chaban

Harbara is here. QED.

Who ... whom? Cui bono?

Replies: @Chaban

Why don't you try making a prognostication concrete enough that it could be disproved by future events? It would be your first time.

Replies: @Chaban

[perhaps result in Putin losing power]

I don't think you quite understand what making concrete predictions would entail.

Replies: @Chaban

[“Concrete prediction” might be the ultimate oxymoron]

Go tell a bookie that what he makes his living from doesn't exist, pretentious cretin.

Many of those criticisms are only speculative as most of the criticism of Trump has been. Let us wait and see shall we? Trump isn't the messiah, but what do you expect? The USA isn't getting off that lightly. You have a few hundred years worth of karmic debt I believe is coming due and Trump. nor anyone will save you. (USA) At best Trump may lessen the impact on the rest of the world that is all, but you're going down regardless.

Replies: @Chaban

Your analysis syffers from being coloured by your own acceptance of the lies about Islam and it's adherants. You're more of a puppet yourself than you realise actually. Sorry to say your effort wasn't worth the time it took to read.

"Remember that to kill a politician, you just don’t cover them at all, either positively or negatively. No. Publicity. Period."

That's what they did with Jim Webb and Gary Johnson.

@Chaban

I'm afraid you're right. I was very hopeful but the people that Trump has surrounded himself with in the past made me always wonder if it was a set up. I'm not a 100% but it's looking that way. Keys are some of his appointments look bad and one of the very biggest is his not pushing the removal of illegal immigrants. If he were to pronounce how terrible it would be for the illegal immigrants as soon as he got in office the large majority of them would leave before he even got in office. My guess is he deports a couple million while the press screams genocide and racism. The problem being I think there's at least 30 million in the country and it wouldn't surprise me a bit if there were 40 million.
Even worse the internet has been given to the UN and they will rapidly start censoring it.

I respect your point :) because I have made it my self in a number of comments on unz :P

Look, you deserve one of those you call "ad hominem" too. There is plenty of idiots and trolls on unz now and I have backed out of wasting my time on dealing with this bunch until just recently. I will soon probably go out of this zine again, because dealing with commenting idiots is not inspirational at all, it is very much the job of Sisyphus.

Regarding your empty claims that Saker has been predicting this and that for many years, the collapse of which did not come true. Firstly, neither Saker nor I have ever given a moment in time of a collapse because the exact moment is impossible to predict. Only a stupid commenter can claim - "because it has not happened yet then I am right and you two are wrong", which you appear to be doing. Your claim is like stating - time can flow forward or backward. No, a collapse can happen only once, and then the collapsed entity is no more. It exists, it exists until it does not.

Secondly and finally, I am not sure about Saker, but I have posited that neither US nor Ukraine will collapse before US Petrodollar or US$ as a world reserve currency is replaced. Once this status of US$ is lost, the precipitous decline of US will begin and Ukraine's survival on the free-printing US$ drip-feed will be terminated. At the moment, all of the World is financing the US military adventures by trusting the US$ which is being printed completely out of this World. With a skilful market manipulation, the value of US$ is even increasing whilst the US is printing it like crazy: the more you print, the more valuable it becomes. Russia and China are working on replacing US$ as a reserve/petro currency, because they are not too happy to finance attacks on themselves. The US$ will not collapse until the replacement reaches some critical point and price manipulation reaches some point, at which it will not decline then collapse like a house of cards it is.

Gee, the quality of commenters on this good zine has already collapsed.

Replies: @Chaban

The Saker's anti-Americanism is always on full display. His columns always bubble over with his seething hatred for America and Americans.

I wonder if he knows that John Wayne was just an actor. And why does he compare Russian special forces guys to John Wayne. He should compare them to our special forces guys.

As for all of this crap of how Russians supposedly look down on Americans, they can stuff it. We don't need lessons in morality or anything else from those people. They massacred tens of millions of their own, and the ones left alive lived a shitty existence, while our people lived the good life.

And I hate the neocons with a vengeance, and I hate what Trump is allowing to happen to his presidency, but this notion that Russians are in any position to lecture Americans is crap, as is the notion that Russians are real manly men, while Americans are just a bunch of phony John Waynes. That's some out of left field weirdness right there.

I suppose this "Saker" fellow, whoever he is, is likely an arm of Russian propaganda.

Replies: @Hail, @Kiza, @War for Blair Mountain

American fall has been predicted by Saker ( I am not aware but I wil accept it for the argument's sake ) It has not happened because the "fall" has been exported to other countries abroad . The dire economic situations in Asia ,Africa, EU and Latin America are the shining example of the tortuous American forceful manipulation . Without the rest of the world shouldering the burden , America would be Greece asking tourists to visit with no identity .
It doesn't mean America has not screwed itself . The issues that give rise to coup in other countries give rise to stealing of election in this country by unique way -it forces the winner and office holder to change sides overnight Information is suppressed not by force but by nepotism of highest order ,by fear ,insinuation and relationship and economic pressure . The tension gets amplified in the streets,parks,schools,movie theaters mall,and in police encounter. Bodies pile up because the hate fear and the insecurity undermine confidence in the system.

The faceless bastard can decide in unattended meetings lasting seconds to minutes to kill millions but cant bring the bill that affects the lives of the millions of Americans for discussion .
Its leaders are so incompetent that the collective and individual respect the lawmakers and the presidents enjoy will force a recall and a referendum in other countries ( which if not followed through ,will provoke America to unleash wars ) .
The kind of reason that provokes America to mount attack on the elected bodies abroad routinely gets a pass from and is ignored by the frightened and hapless clueless Americans. ( Think of the E-mail sent from CITI to Obama regarding the selection of the cabinet . These sorts of things give rise to Soros-CIA funded regime change in foreign countries or threat of attack or coup ) . This is not a durable enduing strength .

Russia was much weaker from 1990- 2000 China was much more vulnerable from 1990 to 2000. America can get away with murder in their own backyard in those days . Now China mocks and steers America away from stupid miscalculation when it can. Other time it just puts the American tail between the Japanese and S Korean legs .

Has anything militarily and politically or socially got any better in last 17 yrs in USA? American people have been reduced to observing and watching the show carried on by the feuding elites with no input from them . Is this strength ?
Ask a military man of uniform on the forefront of the war He or she will tel you this war on terror is a terror itself and is being maintained to keep the war-machine running . They receive the replies when they question the idiocy that they are better off than the military of China Russia or Syria .

There are animals who can survive on rotten meat .Other animal cant . These animals may die if they try . It basically proves one can't ignore,override and bypass the rules and ingredients on which it is built and can't replace with another set for convenience. The system that has built and protected America is being poisoned from inside .

China will turn on Russia.
 

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@Chaban

November 15, 2015 at 5:23 pm GMT
The Faker… way off the mark. Again!

Breaking news: Obama and Putin just reached an agreement on political transition in Syria.

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Boy, try to not delude yourself

Replies: @Chaban

"Of course all the Faker groupies laughed me off… The “battle” that you saw between Trump and the establishment was just WWF meant to confuse the Russian leadership. Everyone was sooo focused on that. Suckers!"

I don't get Chaban's "fakers" and "suckers" and I don't get Chaban's vitriol against the Saker and those who follow his blog. Maybe Chaban wanted to write a piece at the Saker blog and was turned down? Anyone can post there, and many others will both agree and disagree. So Chaban definitely seems to have a chip on his shoulder regarding the Saker

Anyhow, I follow many threads on the Saker's blog and I can state with confidence that the overwhelming number of comments there regarding Trump both before and following the election had few illusions about Trump and were in "wait and see" mode, but had a "glimmer" of hope that he might be less belligerent than Hillary, less beholden to the powers that be and the Neocons. It was well understood that Trump was an unknown quantity, and Trump was seen by most to many to be the devil you don't know as opposed to the one you do.

Replies: @Parbes

And who could bring about the collapse of the U.S. $ once the last global domino, i.e. Russia, falls pray tell?
 

Hi Chaban,

Who really gives a hoot about Russian propaganda ?

Russia did not LIE the American people into the catastrophic Iraq war, our elite war mongers DID .

Let them assume responsibility for their deceits, and cough up the money to pay for it.

Not one American citizen should be on the hook for any of the whopping 20 trillion dollar debt their war fraud created.

Not one penny.

Not now and not twenty years from now.

Our war mongering elites need to assume responsibility for their actions and cough up the dough.

I don't want to speculate on what countries around the world will continue to purchase our bonds to underwrite our heinous war debt.

I want my money back..... NOW.

If our war mongers are so convinced their stupid, unconstitutional, wars of aggression are worth it.....So WORTH IT they are willing to LIE to every American Citizen to get them started ...then they should be willing to DIG DOWN DEEP into their OWN pockets ... to PAY for it....the WHOLE WAY.

This is America, buddy....IF you saying our "deceitful" war mongers should get a FREE RIDE BECAUSE THEY LIED ......

and the burden of their heinous war debt should be foisted on the back of 320 million Americans who were LIED TO ?.

On behalf of 320 million Americans....I have just one thing to say to you ....

F#CK YOU .......AND THE HORSE YOU RODE IN ON !

Who gives a crap about Russian propaganda ?

Replies: @Chaban

Wrong.
 

Chaban,

When you look back in history to Ancient Greece or Rome,

And you see when their GREAT leaders and generals went off to war...they would return victorious with untold SPOILS of war,... tons of gold, and silver...acquiring thousands of hectares of fertile land..for grazing livestock...or growing wheat and wine......They would return with a bounty a THOUSAND times more valuable than the cost of the expedition itself...and they were Heroes to EVERYBODY...because their success brought great wealth and power to their nation...One and All.

But when they failed..and their expedition cost a THOUSAND times what their spoils yielded...they became villains.... because they brought nothing but shameful poverty to their country...and were probably fed to the lions.

When leaders make wars for no other reason than to rob their OWN countrymen of their OWN money...They are not leaders at all...They are the foulest of traitors to their nation.

And should be treated as such.

"...Seriously? It’s been going on for over 240 years. And again, there is nothing you can do about it, despite all your grandiloquence."

When you are done crouching down and licking the hand that feeds you- check out the Joe Stack manifesto.

Joe died on his feet.

Now is not the time to be a defeatist dick.

You fucking hypocrite!

First you scorn Alexander for being a hopeless keyboard whiner, then you mock anon for proposing that we assert our First Amendment rights.

Clear, concise, and right on target, this petition directly supports Syrian sovereignty, Tulsi Gabbard's bill, and Americans' interests. [N.B. That's the interests of Americans, not the hegemonic intentions of our elite Deep State.]

To scoffers and nay-sayers -

It's no skin off your ass:
It costs nothing
It takes little time ( less time than to complain about ineffectual clicktivism)

While org. petitions are often mainly to boost their mailing lists,
this will be seen by the administration and the public
 

Replies: @Chaban, @iffen, @iffen

And who tells you they did not and that it was not part of this entire deception?

Conspiranoia again

The US will collapse right after the 2020 POTUS ELECTION when the voting population openly unapologetically votes along racial lines...And when when you throw in a Mega-drought...wage slave employment for Native Born White American Males...a Hindu-Chinese Overlord Class in California taunting Native Born White American Males...

US Military intervention in the Middle East and US Military excercises right on Christian Russia's borders is last ditch effort of the treaonous GREEDY CHEATING WHITE LIBERAL MEGA CEO ELITES to keep the phony-MUH MERICA-support-the-troops!! corpse going.

The US is going to break up along racial national boundaries...and then a race war begins....