RSS1. The virus is real and can be deadly to 0.1% to 0.2% of infected people, mostly (90%) old people (70+). But the survivors are damaged. My mother (72) recovered six months ago, but still weak, has headaches and can’t concentrate for long hours. Used to be super-sharp for her age prior to infection.
2. The virus is very infectious and if half of global population gets infected, that’s 5 million deaths, not to mention other damages.
3. Worldometers.info shows 3 million deaths globally, so we are more than halfway through.
4. No government can ignore such a toll. They should (because they usually make things worse), but they just can’t.
5. So various governments came up with various half-assed attempts to improve the situation and mostly failed as expected.
6. Does not mean they want to kill us all or they triggered the pandemic. Do not ascribe to malice what can be explained by stupidity / incompetence.
7. Vaccines will mitigate symptoms.
8. But they are risky. Two risks – a) risk of cytokine storm when vaccinated gets exposed to virus in the wild b) long-term health risk of continuously producing spike proteins – from what I have read, neurological and reproductive risks are the most popular speculations
9. The virus is lab produced. Hard to take natural origins seriously. Circumstantial evidences on the lab-origin side are too strong. Too many coincidences that natural origin can’t explain.
10. Virus was accidentally leaked, not deliberately released. TPTB is not so stupid to start a biological warfare with an unknown virus and unproven vaccine. Based on timeline, the leak happened at Fort Detrick some time in 2019 summer. The Ft Detrick lab closure, pandemic preparation on the US-UK-Israel side and the initial panic of Chinese leadership indicates foreknowledge on one side and absence of such on Chinese side. TPTB knew about the leak and risks, but did not want this to become public until the virus was identified in China, so they could blame it on Wuhan labs. 2014 moratorium expired in 2017. US labs restarted research in collaboration with WVI and an accident happened. Since the decision to restart dangerous gain-of-function research and the accident happened under incompetent Trump / Pompeo’s watch, TPTB stole the election from Trump as a punishment and denied him his second term, which I think he was originally selected to get.
...then comes gaslighting, pettifog, and fear-mongering.
1. The virus is real and...
...then comes gaslighting, pettifog, and fear-mongering.
1. The virus is real and...
My mother’s PCR test was positive twice at low cycle counts exactly when she was sick with the exact symptoms (fever, weakness, loss of smell, headache) experienced by millions of others. She lives in India. Three of her friends in the same apartment complex died from same symptoms at around the same time. Why don’t y0u ask around people you know? Not hard to find people who have experienced the symptoms and tested positive concurrently. People who you can trust and are not lying. This virus is real, and can be quite bad for certain people. Don’t ignore it. Vaccines are risky, too. Everyone needs to do their own risk analysis and determine whether they should take the vaccine or not. I am not going to take the vaccine. The unknown risks of the vaccine seems to me to be higher than the known risk of infection for my age / health profile. But I don’t think the virus is fake.
Good take! But then this again:
Vaccines are risky, too. Everyone needs to do their own risk analysis and determine whether they should take the vaccine or not. I am not going to take the vaccine.
People get sick because of things that cause disease (toxins in what we breathe, eat, and drink, plus fear and anger that we allow to consume our spirit, not to mention the electromagnetic pollution that beset us every day, all day). There is no proof anywhere, ever that a microorganism called a "virus" is the causative agent of any disease. Further, there is no proof anywhere, ever that ANY agent that causes disease can be transmitted from one human to another, or from one animal to another. It has NEVER been proved, despite multiple attempts.If 90% of the fish in a pond die all at once, it is because the water has been poisoned, not because one infected fish transmitted the disease to all the other fish. "It's the terrain!"
This virus is real
Agree. Between 2014 and 2017, some stealth research continued. But other labs probably were forced to pause and that’s why Grant Number – 2R01-AI110964 was issued by NIH to WVI. Then in 2017, all labs accelerated research perhaps realizing China has developed knowhow of Ace2 binding and can potentially use it as a future bioweapon. While accelerating research, some security protocols were breached and there was a leak.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/ib4IZSaRvBuH/
By the way, where did that video come from?
I used to think that COVID-19 was a hoax and mRNA vaccines were bioweapons.
As a designed follow up to Covid19, that would explain the failure of full spectrum Covid19 immunity to stop it.
Yes, not a hoax. The new Indian variant seems very potent. I suppose TPTB did not like the fact that Serum Institute and Bharat Biotech were making their own vaccines – Covishield and Covaxin – based on AstraZeneca. The variant sweeping through India seems to be resistant to Indian vaccines.
BUT Israel — who would have thought — promptly reports today that Pfizer vaccine is partially effective.
I fear an ever more virulent version is reserved for Africa.
Nancy congratulated Floyd for “sacrificing his life for justice”. She thus confirmed the under-the-table deal we had suspected all along. Both the murder and the trial were fake. BLM riots needed a closure. Career criminal Floyd and his security buddy Chauvin cut a deal with demonrats and enacted a circus to deliver that closure. See you in 4 years.
Who kills someone while getting recorded by a bunch of mobile cameras? Whole drama stinks of stagecraft.
For all we know, Floyd is guarding Epstein’s house at some island. Knowing Epstein, that’s a sacrifice indeed.
Ron is right.
Excess death data across a large number of countries prove Covid is dangerous and fatal, mostly for elderly and frail.
I am hearing daily first-hand reports from friends and family in India. Death and devastation are real and incredibly sad.
And that’s just the immediate loss. “Long Covid” is real too, especially neurological damage.
All estimates on total impact on life-years lost because of this bioweapon are likely to be under-estimates, not over-estimation.
Just because fear porn MSM exaggerated fatality rates does not mean Covid is “just like flu” or a “hoax”.
SC2 is a dangerous and meticulously designed bio-weapon, and likely there are several variations of this weapon whose deployment can be controlled by the same forces that sponsored the research and design.
Please do not minimize the greatest crime against humanity.
I was also very impressed by Nicolas Wade piece. I think it demolishes the myth of natural origin. Ron Unz theory of bioweapon attack is more plausible than an accidental leak. But Unz may consider another version: the subject of the attack was the whole of mankind, while the perpetrators are the Davos Wizards dreaming of Great Reset. Yes, they wanted China to suffer the first blow, and they wanted Iran to be hurt badly, but perhaps these are secondary elements, while the most prominent is their desire to end the world we had, with too much democracy, too many disobedient, too many people travel abroad, not enough police control. View it as 9/11. version 2, an attack on all of us.
I agree.There is a bad contradiction in Ron Unz's hypothesis. He admits that the Covid disease is of (relatively) low lethality, but is highly transmissible. [BTW he wrongly asserts that it has proven asymptomatic transmission - one of the many myths of Covid propaganda].
View it as 9/11. version 2, an attack on all of us.
Yet Unz also hypothosises that the plotters assumed that the virus would not spread out of the target countries:
“a high communicability, low lethality disease is perfect for ruining an economy,” suggesting that the apparent characteristics of the coronavirus were close to optimal in this regard.
SARS and MERS were known as viruses with much high(er) lethality, but low(er) transmissibility. If the intention had been economic damage to China, then it is not plausible that such plotters would not realise the difference with respect to these virus forms nor take extreme measures to ensure the infection remained in the target country.
The deadly SARS and MERS outbreaks in East Asia and the Near East had never significantly spread back to America (or Europe), so the plotters wrongly assumed that the same would be the case with Covid-19.
Good stuff.
But Unz may consider another version: the subject of the attack was the whole of mankind, while the perpetrators are the Davos Wizards dreaming of Great Reset.
Indian intelligence had reported of a secret China-Pakistan biological warfare against India.
So our Fort Detrick may have accidentally or negligently released Covid-19, but instead of destroying China, it raped(Trump’s fav phrase) the USA first, and now it is raping India.
They may be on to something.
Instead of framing this biological world war as China vs. USrael, Russia vs. USrael, NATOUSrael vs Russia, Russia + China vs. NATOUSrael, I use a globalist vs. nationalist lens.
Covid is a globalist bioweapon.
The dominant elements within US deep state are globalist. During Trump admin, they faced infrequent, incoherent and ineffective resistance. One example was Iran. So the globalists took care of Iran, and eventually Trump through a stolen election, during the first wave of Covid.
Similarly the globalists took care of nationalist presidents of Tanzania and Burundi who resisted globalist health empire.
The countries suffering the most during the second wave are India, Brazil and Turkey, where there are some nationalist resistance, again ineffective, incoherent, and infrequent, on some fronts from Modi, Bolsonaro, and Erdogan.
CCP and PLA are co-operating with deep state because of export market, self-defense, and regional geo-political aspirations. But this is an unstable equilibrium.
All these seem good old CIA-backed deep state genocidal activities, aided and abetted by silence from scientific community, party driven by fear and partly by greed as they rest and vest BioPharma stocks while enjoying their grants and tenure.
The Chinese presumably aren’t pointing fingers at the US because they know the US has a much bigger global megaphone. If China trumpets the truth, the US can drown that out by hyper-trumpeting its prefabricated cover story lie blaming China and the WIV. Such a war of accusations would greatly increase the chances of a shooting war, which China doesn’t want. If there is no war, China with its unstoppable economy eventually wins by default; whereas the only way the US can even dream of hanging on to its #1 world power status is through pre-emptive war.
This is geopolitics 101: the current #1 power almost always wages pre-emptive war against the rising #2 power. See Graham Allison.
Proof of this comes from past cases. As I pointed out in my original article, for decades it’s been admitted that the "Tiananmen Square Massacre" was just a hoax, but every year all the MSM outlets still run stories about it, so everyone still thinks it actually happened, including a certain fraction of Western-oriented Chinese people, not to mention Chinese living in the West.
The Chinese presumably aren’t pointing fingers at the US because they know the US has a much bigger global megaphone. If China trumpets the truth, the US can drown that out by hyper-trumpeting its prefabricated cover story lie blaming China and the WIV.
Many thanks, Ron Unz, for once again presenting what remains the most cogent explanation for the bizarre Covid-19 caper — ever since former insider Francis Boyle first authoritatively nailed it more than a year ago as a chimeric parasite clearly designed in a government biowarfare laboratory. After rigorous efforts to debunk or censor that unassailable conclusion, the masters of the narrative in government and media are only now resorting to back-filling articles, meaning they’ve recognize that their barrage of natural-origin propaganda is quickly losing traction. But this revision is only a limited hang-out.
So much for the science. We are still left with the decisive political battle of pinning the blame on the bad guys of choice. Is it China or the USSA? Unlike Trump and Pompeo, you seem to be absolving China as an innocent bystander who astutely came up with the more effective response to the artificial scourge.
I wonder whether it is that simple. Perhaps there are two warring factions within our own deep state: One being the militarist clique that sought to weaponize the term Wuhan virus to confront directly and even kenetically the grave challenge of a rising China to the empire’s geopolitical world hegemony; the other — the ascendant Fauci oligarchic technological/financial and internationalist clique — that seeks some mutual accommodation with China because it foresees China’s ultimate triumph with its superior political economy and intact society. Call that the China faction because China seems to be playing along smugly on the same team, starting with the cozine$$ between Wuhan lab and Fauci/WHO.
You didn’t mention the strangeness of the USSA’s response to Corona, which speaks for the hidden motives behind it. The illegal biowarfare labs were not closed. But we wrecked our own Main Street economy, employment opportunities and Americal traditions — actions typically reserved to an attacking enemy in a real war. The political leadership has deliberately alienated half our own citizenry as “deplorables”, racists and potential “domestic terrorists”. They have also attacked the major social and cultural institutions, from the churches and voting to spectator sports, travel, leisure and free flow of information. And there are many more such self-inflicted crimes in the vaccine scam.
Why would the leaders do that to themselves if they merely wanted to create a few viral speed bumps for rival China? Covid-19 was certainly the means, as you say. But it mainly provided the opportunity for major social engineering in the USSA. And maybe the overriding motive for these criminal shenanigans is not as clear cut as you suggest. The globalist progressive leadership now installed in the United States seems bent on imitating what it regards as the superior Chinese social and political model, which also serves their own globalist corporate interests. And imitation of China is the purest form of flattery.
Yes, all those factors contribute to excess deaths. But Covid is a factor, too.
Ethical skeptic on twitter has done excellent work on excess death stats over the last 10-12 months by separating Covid deaths from deaths caused by other factors. You can follow his work if you are interested.
In most OECD countries Covid death numbers are a bit inflated, I agree. And we can debate by how much. But even the reduced number is still a very large toll. And we are just talking deaths, not long-term health damage and reduced life expectancy.
On the other hand, most developing countries are under-reporting excess deaths, I am pretty sure.
My mother lives in a high-rise apartment complex in India. She personally knows six people who died in the last few weeks. Similar symptoms – fever, fatigue, rapid fall in oxygen level, breathing problems, death. With a better health care system, some of them could have been saved perhaps. But it’s undeniable Covid is taking a brutal toll on India. If anything, Indian death stats are grossly under-reported. Even during normal times, 1 in 5 deaths in India gets registered. Forget about proper attribution.
Perhaps Gandhi was right all along.
When a reporter asked him what he thought of Western civilization, he famously replied: “I think it would be a good idea.”
So you don’t agree with the Wade hypothesis?
The virus came from the USA?
And was carried to China?
After the bat virus had been brought from China to Fort Detrick?
So, Dr. Bat Woman had nothing to do with creating the virus, despite her publications about her work?…Unz seems to be going out on a limb and create a few hoops to jump through in order to sideline the point of Wade’s work.
I’ve tried to make my views very clear and explicit in all my articles, including this latest one:
Having now twice read Wade’s long article, I can say that I find nearly all of his scientific arguments quite compelling, and I have almost no points of significant disagreement. Yet my overall conclusions are entirely different from his…Although Wade is absolutely correct in stating that “there are two main theories” about the origins of Covid-19, this duality has been enforced by political pressures…
And if these were the only two possible theories, all arguments against the one would necessarily support the other. But this framework is upended once we recognize that there is a third logical possibility, far more vilified and excluded than that of the “lab-leak hypothesis” but also far more plausible and supported by much stronger evidence.
Wade makes a very strong and compelling case against the virus being natural. But he provides almost no evidence supporting the Wuhan lab-leak hypothesis. Sure, Wuhan’s “Bat Lady” was working on bat viruses. But all of her American colleagues were also working on bat viruses. Bat Lady published articles about genetic work on bat viruses, but enormous numbers of other American researchers have also published articles about genetic work on bat viruses. As Whitney Webb’s important article from Jan. 2020 discussed, bat viruses are among the most common subjects of all viral research, especially bioweapon research:
There’s essentially ZERO evidence that Covid-19 was developed in the Wuhan lab, and ZERO evidence that there was a lab-leak. Indeed, as I emphasized in my article, the remarkable timing of the initial outbreak is *extremely* suspicious, while an accidental lab-leak would obviously be entirely random.
Maybe Ft. Detrick developed the virus from an precursor they had originally gotten from Wuhan. Who knows? Maybe they got it elsewhere. Maybe it wasn’t Ft. Detrick. All of this is pure speculation, far beyond any of the available evidence.
The key point is that since Baker and Wade have only considered the natural and lab-leak scenarios, all their evidence against the natural case automatically supports the lab-leak alternative. But my whole point is that there’s a third possibility much more likely than either of them.
That's true, except that the Chinese have not been very transparent about WIV. If their records all pointed against problems at the lab, they would let the WHO team (which seems pretty pro-Chinese anyway) look at everything in order to clear their names and point the finger at the US.
There’s essentially ZERO evidence that Covid-19 was developed in the Wuhan lab, and ZERO evidence that there was a lab-leak.
Unz, you are a Big Brain math guy, and I am not. Can you explain how remarkable the timing is? Chinese New Year comes around every 12 months. And since you suggest possible drone attacks or other things for the Iranian outbreak and for previous agriculture viral outbreaks in China, the World Military Games is really not a necessity for your theory. Just why is the timing *extremely* suspicious, rather than a little unusual or just maybe chance?
Indeed, as I emphasized in my article, the remarkable timing of the initial outbreak is *extremely* suspicious
That is, of course, not true. There are lots of things that could possibly make a lab-leak non-random. I have worked in health care before, and I (or anyone who has worked before in an environment that requires constant vigilance to prevent mistakes) can tell you that there are many factors that contribute to mistakes. Excessive drinking, anxiety about seeing relatives, excitement to get home--these are things that might be affecting people's performance in a run-up to a holiday. And that is a very small set of examples.
while an accidental lab-leak would obviously be entirely random
Indeed. As I pointed out in a comment above, a theory that is just as supported as yours is that the Chinese were developing a bioweapon in preparation for creating chaos during the US presidential election, but that US intelligence got wind of it and orchestrated a lab leak (rather than introducing it themselves) in order to prevent an attack. At least this theory has the benefit of being supported by "evidence" that the Chinese had long-term plans to disrupt the US health care system with a Coronavirus...
Maybe Ft. Detrick developed the virus from an precursor they had originally gotten from Wuhan. Who knows? Maybe they got it elsewhere. Maybe it wasn’t Ft. Detrick. All of this is pure speculation, far beyond any of the available evidence.
First, it's not true that Wade only presents evidence against a natural source. For example, he discusses the various levels of safety precautions used at WIV. This is not evidence like a document saying there was some accident at WIV but it is suggestively circumstantial.
The key point is that since Baker and Wade have only considered the natural and lab-leak scenarios, all their evidence against the natural case automatically supports the lab-leak alternative. But my whole point is that there’s a third possibility much more likely than either of them.
As you can see from the above dates, your theory that "early" outbreaks in Asian countries around China were normal but that "early" outbreaks in Iran were abnormal is wrong. Outbreaks occurred around the world at the same time, including in Israel and the USA's "five eyes" allies and NATO countries.
22 Feb 2020 - first death in Italy
30 Jan 2020 - first case in India
3 Feb 2020 - Diamond Princess quarantined in Japan
20 Jan 2020 - first case in South Korea
19 Feb 2020 - first case in Iran
21 Feb 2020 - first case in Israel
25 Jan 2020 - first case in Australia
31 Jan 2020 - declared "public health emergency" in USA
31 Jan 2020 - first confirmed case in UK
27 Jan 2020 - first case in Canada
https://twitter.com/ArielKarlinsky/status/1385909013678895106
Ariel Karlinsky @ArielKarlinsky
In #WorldMortality, @hippopedoid and I find excess deaths to be 1.6 higher than reported COVID deaths. We believe this to be a LOWER bound on the toll of COVID-19.
https://doi.org/10.1101/2021.01.27.21250604
https://github.com/akarlinsky/world_mortality
6:50 AM · Apr 24, 2021
https://twitter.com/ArielKarlinsky/status/1385914176086941696
However, this study was the first to change how I view COVID-19 mortality reporting. The current toll of >3 million deaths is a considerable under-estimate and I suspect it is closer to 10 million than 3 million. Why?
In #WorldMortality, our positive undercount ratios (excess deaths to reported COVID deaths) ranges from 1x (OECD), 5x (Russia), 10x (El Salvador), 30x (Uzbekistan), 50x (Nicaragua) and even 100x (Tajikistan).
7:11 AM · Apr 24, 2021
Even if China were the ‘victim’ in this case, they are no more trustworthy or moral than their Western counterparts.
Yes they are.
Beyond the simple contemporary contrast between the current respective trajectories of the formerly affluent American public and the rising prosperity of the Chinese people, history emphatically demonstrates the point.
China is a mercantile entity – it accomplishes it’s purposes through negotiation and trading. Examine it’s multi-millennial track record – China doesn’t do war, unless it’s forced to defend itself.
Contrast this with the several centuries of the USA’s blood-soaked existence. The USA uses money to coerce compliance with it’s will, always for its own advantage at the expense of its counterparts in a zero-sum game, and backs that up with assassinations, false flags, staged “colour revolutions”, proxy “civil wars” and outright unilateral military invasion and destruction of any nation that dares to challenge or assert independence from its rule.
The ruling American elites apply these principles in equal measure to their own people as much to foreign entities. Remember Pearl Harbour – they set it up, they knew it was coming, and they let it happen. Remember the Liberty – do you really even need to ask? Remember Operation Northwoods – only President Kennedy had the conscience and morality to put a halt to that, and we all know President Kennedy’s fate at the hand of US Army snipers. Remember Operation Gladio, where European governments got to do the slaughter and mayhem on their own people that President Kennedy stopped when he killed Operation Northwoods. Remember 11 September 2001 – not only did the American government organise and carry out this atrocity, the American people enthusiastically went along with it. And so on it goes.
In any competition for trustworthiness, China is way up on the plus side of the ledger when compared to the USA. Dealing with China is akin to dealing with fair but astute businessmen. The USA is as trustworthy as a cabal of out-of-control gangsters.
Fine comment, yet the first point says it all.As young Americans face diminishing opportunities under the current regime, their Chinese counterparts really can dream of the stars. And worse, the Biden regime is going through the motions to deliberately keep the status quo. Which means more wars that bankrupt the country, more stupid payouts to bankers whenever the economy hiccups, more debt and more uncertainty for its citizens.A nation that destroys its future as wantonly as the US has in this century is raising serious questions: Is it a nation or not? And was it ever? Everything the old time anti-Americans once said has come true, and nobody in Washington seems to give a toss.Replies: @Biff
Beyond the simple contemporary contrast between the current respective trajectories of the formerly affluent American public and the rising prosperity of the Chinese people, history emphatically demonstrates the point.
Interesting answer to the post .
Migrants left last year . People are dying this year . Migrants were not seen dropping dead on the way back to the villages . They were seen herded into cowshed and kennels or somewhere worse than that . They were seen walking and walking .
The 50% death is not from them . Migrants don’t account of the deaths more than the general population ( young) does.
By the way why ponder and pontificate and surmise and use the thought as some kind of conclusion .
Let’s focus on what we know : this virus is not expected evolution of SARS neither it is hoax ( your cognitive discordance worth noticing )
People are dying . Wish you were in MI few weeks
when the system was overwhelmed .
50% of deaths in India are below the age of 50. Brazil ‘s ratio is more. African data is much more promising and hopeful .
The media is doing a great job of not letting you know what is really going on in India.
India has millions of migrant workers who are normally paid just about enough to survive and to remit a small amount their families in remote villages.
Let me translate the title below – “40 million migrant workers in India; 7.5 million return home so far”
Mr. Unz seems to be of similar mindset as you, on this particular issue. But it simply makes no sense. There is such a thing as human morality. There are even some universal features (across cultures). There is no culture in the world, that does not understand, at a very fundamental level, that if there is a scourge to be collectively dealt with, that under such scenario, those that obfuscate and lie to save their own skin (or otherwise benefit themselves), with effect of said obfuscation and lying tantamount to making the scourge much worse (sowing covid chaos by confounding narratives makes the scourge much worse) … are evil.
So if the Chinese virology operation at Wuhan (particularly Dr. Shi’s operations), was the source, and therefore those involved (Dr. Shi for instance) may, as such, know secrets about the scourge that everybody else is just guessing about, right now (gain of function … especially the targeted gene insertion variety) …. and the CCP suppresses that info (which is what they are being accused of) ….. and then the CCP just doubles-down and triple and quadruples-down, with respect to continuing to suppress said info, as this whole thing has gone on and on and on, for at least 15 months now, affecting the entire world, …. well, if this ends up being the truth ….. everybody on earth will recognize said actions as inherently evil.
As such, despite complaints about western mainstream media always twisting the truth (which is of course absolutely true as Mr. Unz well outlines, which of course is, in of itself, similarly evil) ….. the CCP still have a responsibility to all the people of the earth, to bring some order to the covid narrative ….. so we can all understand what we are really dealing with here.
Just because we already know that in the west, there are deep-state globalist factions, that have become the dominant factions in western institutional apparatchik, and do this very thing (visit cognitive-scourges that beget physical scourges of all types, upon the world) doesn’t mean that the CCP get off the hook for behaving similarly badly. Because, if indeed that is where we are at, then it is truly time to head for the hills folks.
As such, I think it is clear, that by way of the CCP stonewalling with poker face around their involvement in these such gain of function experiments, shows that it is highly probable that the CCP knows that the wild covid strain, is at least close enough to the gain-of-function versions that Dr. Shi and others, apparently had on their shelf, …. that they will be targeted as the real culprits, when the facts most probably support Mr. Unz’s contention that these covid-2 strains were cultured all over the place, in western labs as well, ….. the gain-of-function research work was a shared endeavor.
That is the terrifying aspect to all this. The CCP thinks the truth is so bad, that the current worldwide chaos, is worth the price, of keeping the secret. So why would that be? The people of the entire world desperately need to know right about now, precisely what was, and is being done in the name of ‘Science’. Alot of it is technocratic claptrap. This technocratic house of cards needs to be dissolved. The western deep-state apparatus and the CCP apparatus share one aspiration though ….. and that is a devotion to the technocracy. It’s well past time, for the CCP to stand up, and show their cards, around covid-2 source. But they choose not to. This should be terrifying to people. Because this means that there truly is no bulwark against the ever-growing anti-true-west forces that continue to usurp American power. Putin tries to provide such bulwark (by way of some interviews he has given to western journalists) but fails. There is no one else capable (besides the CCP). Are they gonna step up and be heros …. or are they gonna cave, because they were compromised, over the lab leak source, maybe even set up to fail in that way on purpose, maybe even by way of a false attribution operation like Mr. Unz hypothesizes? The anti-true-west (actually globalist) deep-state actors within the west have always successfully compromised all comers, for decades now. The CCP is most probably now so compromised (over shared technocratic shenanigans). Are they gonna admit it, so as to act as linchpin to get to the bottom of all this? It seems unlikely now, after 15 months. What a shame (for the future of humanity).
This whole covid thing shows just how broken everything has become. We are now in a time of very very dire danger (when no man, not even Xi Jinping, dare stand up for the truth).
Given that the virus had been engineered for high infectiousness, the "blowback" had to be totally anticipated; and it played nicely into the anti-Trump offensive in a number of ways, including providing the needed chaos to more easily doctor up the elections.Replies: @Ron Unz, @As I see it
The deadly SARS and MERS outbreaks in East Asia and the Near East had never significantly spread back to America (or Europe), so the plotters wrongly assumed that the same would be the case with Covid-19.
Your argument is internally inconsistent. If you accept the part of Ron’s thesis that states rogue neocon elements in Trump admin drove the plan, you also have to accept “the blowback” to the US was unintended, not deliberate. Why would they jeopardize Trump’s re-election and their own positions within Trump administration knowingly?
One possibility is the rogue elements were convinced by the scientists that the bioweapon was genetically targeted, and will have no effect on Caucasians. Which the scientists were wrong about. US bioweapons research has a tradition of R&D in genetically targeted weapons.
Some of it's the "strangely well adapted" part; some of it's simply the lack of genetic diversity (which in a rapidly-mutating RNA virus like SARS2, indicates a single recent jump to humans -- successful on the "first try"). Which doesn't distinguish between the "bioweapon" and "accidental lab release" theories; but it makes a "natural" bat >> unknown intermediate host >> human route less likely.
Her work has been highly recommended, and she’s got at least three preprints out, did a lot of the work while locked out of her lab as I recall. As described her thesis goes into significant details on how SARS-CoV(-1) underwent a lot of mutations quickly, apparently to better adapt itself to humans, while SARS-CoV-2 popped up strangely well adapted to humans.
“It’s not entirely clear to me why they’re allowing the lab leak theory to get so much more attention now.” –
The timing is likely driven by second Indian wave. Increasing Indian animosity towards China and keeping India out of China-led strategic initiatives such as Belt and Road have to be among the top objectives on deep state / neocon Covid-19 agenda.
Could be. The way they manage the Indian thing is kind of interesting. "Kabbala Haaretz" is mostly characterized by the "news" media as "Black" -- but she's half Tamil Brahmin, and maybe 1/4 West African [father is a mulatto]. And the desis know it, even if the average American doesn't. There has to be a reason why someone whose campaign was such a pathetic failure* [3% support when she dropped out] was picked as VP, and the Indian connection may well be part of it. It's well-known, of course, that pajeets living in the US vote overwhelmingly for "anti-r****t" [anti-White] Democrats, while simultaneously supporting Hindu supremacists (BJP/ Modi) back home.
The timing is likely driven by second Indian wave. Increasing Indian animosity towards China and keeping India out of China-led strategic initiatives such as Belt and Road have to be among the top objectives on deep state / neocon Covid-19 agenda.
Those four lies could have been fabricated after the fact — BioPharma and their paid puppets in media, together with various health organizations and service providers colluding to take advantage of the crisis (“never let a crisis go to waste”)
Similarly, all states have natural totalitarian tendencies. What’s not to like about masks and lockdowns, especially when that helps their big tech and big box donors destroy small business competition?
Does not necessarily mean the fabricator of those four lies were involved in triggering the crisis, which could very well be driven by a rogue group within US intelligence, as Ron hypothesizes.
And the rest of the evil scum just adjusted after the fact to squeeze maximum power and money out of the situation, while screwing us. Which they are naturally good at.
One challenge with this line of thinkings the timing (October) of Event 201, the pandemic simulation led by Gates et al. They had to know.
Another challenge is how quickly the vaccines were ready. But I have read after two decades of investments into mRNA tech, the platform was ready to create vaccines within days, given the genetic sequence of a virus as an input. But I don’t know much about vaccine tech.
Sure, that's my own opinion.
Does not necessarily mean the fabricator of those four lies were involved in triggering the crisis, which could very well be driven by a rogue group within US intelligence, as Ron hypothesizes...
And the rest of the evil scum just adjusted after the fact to squeeze maximum power and money out of the situation, while screwing us. Which they are naturally good at.
Actually, I discussed this issue upthread. Since the viral epidemics began hitting China's food supply in 2018, it seems pretty plausible that's when the plotters began their project. So maybe they also decided to start spreading word of a possible future epidemic in vaguely general terms to our elites like the WEF during the couple of years that followed:
One challenge with this line of thinkings the timing (October) of Event 201, the pandemic simulation led by Gates et al. They had to know.
For the state, it makes people more anonymous. No idea why the Right in the US didn't think of this angle.
Similarly, all states have natural totalitarian tendencies. What’s not to like about masks....
All they had to know was that after SARS in 2002 and MERS in 2012 which is still with us due to its camel reservoir that a coronavirus pandemic was likely sooner or later, and as a generic respiratory disease back then it's also a good stand in for the next flu pandemic. Per Wikipedia quoting a 1921 book there's a Sanskrit record of what looks to be a flu epidemic in Babylon circa 1200 B.C. Hippocrates from Northern Greece and Livy much later reported on a 412 BC epidemic which may have been influenza. One things we've been recently contemplating is if any prior epidemics or pandemics ascribed to flu were actually caused by a coronavirus; there are four which are endemic in humans and cause perhaps 15% of the cases of "the common cold."
One challenge with this line of thinkings the timing (October) of Event 201, the pandemic simulation led by Gates et al. They had to know.
The two leading vaccine mRNA companies had been working on the technology for many years, and in 2018 switched or added to their goals vaccines because other more profitable uses weren't panning out (there are several others BTW). The other factor is almost two decades of work into safe SARS type coronavirus vaccines.
Another challenge is how quickly the vaccines were ready. But I have read after two decades of investments into mRNA tech, the platform was ready to create vaccines within days, given the genetic sequence of a virus as an input. But I don’t know much about vaccine tech.
Does not necessarily mean the fabricator of those four lies were involved in triggering the crisis, which could very well be driven by a rogue group within US intelligence, as Ron hypothesizes…
And the rest of the evil scum just adjusted after the fact to squeeze maximum power and money out of the situation, while screwing us. Which they are naturally good at.
Sure, that’s my own opinion.
One challenge with this line of thinkings the timing (October) of Event 201, the pandemic simulation led by Gates et al. They had to know.
Actually, I discussed this issue upthread. Since the viral epidemics began hitting China’s food supply in 2018, it seems pretty plausible that’s when the plotters began their project. So maybe they also decided to start spreading word of a possible future epidemic in vaguely general terms to our elites like the WEF during the couple of years that followed:
Similarly, all states have natural totalitarian tendencies. What’s not to like about masks….
For the state, it makes people more anonymous. No idea why the Right in the US didn’t think of this angle.
One challenge with this line of thinkings the timing (October) of Event 201, the pandemic simulation led by Gates et al. They had to know.
All they had to know was that after SARS in 2002 and MERS in 2012 which is still with us due to its camel reservoir that a coronavirus pandemic was likely sooner or later, and as a generic respiratory disease back then it’s also a good stand in for the next flu pandemic. Per Wikipedia quoting a 1921 book there’s a Sanskrit record of what looks to be a flu epidemic in Babylon circa 1200 B.C. Hippocrates from Northern Greece and Livy much later reported on a 412 BC epidemic which may have been influenza. One things we’ve been recently contemplating is if any prior epidemics or pandemics ascribed to flu were actually caused by a coronavirus; there are four which are endemic in humans and cause perhaps 15% of the cases of “the common cold.”
There’s also the issue that pandemic simulations have been held for some time, the sort of thing high time preference people and peoples do. Wikipedia included Event 201 with several others hosted or co-hosted with the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security. So this amounts to claims a pre 9/11 2001 anticipated a smallpox attack on the US, ditto 2005, and there was one who’s focus is not cited in 2018.
Another challenge is how quickly the vaccines were ready. But I have read after two decades of investments into mRNA tech, the platform was ready to create vaccines within days, given the genetic sequence of a virus as an input. But I don’t know much about vaccine tech.
The two leading vaccine mRNA companies had been working on the technology for many years, and in 2018 switched or added to their goals vaccines because other more profitable uses weren’t panning out (there are several others BTW). The other factor is almost two decades of work into safe SARS type coronavirus vaccines.
Circling back to our host’s thesis, a conspiracy aware of vaccine technology advancements like mRNA and the more proven adenovirus vector (Janssen previously used their platform for an Ebola vaccine which passed an European based Phase III trial), and well as the long proven grow a protein in bug cells approach which Sanofi/Protein Sciences uses for the flu, might have factored that into their plans.
Just those three approaches avoids any single point of failure assuming you believe the NIH researched indeed cracked the spike protein antigen problem in 2017, covering both modes of action which I call active and passive, and manufacturing. Of course it’s never that simple especially when you need to vaccinate billions of people as quickly as you can while still continuing to produce regular needed vaccines, and for example fill and finish becomes a bottleneck, maybe even glass. But this is the sort of thing the US can still do well.
Because they’d have to be stark raving mad to inflict upon the world a pandemic without having an exit planned. Although as we’ve discussed knowing for sure what their posited brewed up bioweapon would do in humans would have required a lot of testing in humans. Suppose they incorrectly believed it was more like SARS and MERS in transmission, or perhaps a bit more, vs. what lineage B.1.1.7 has added to an already frightfully good at transmitting “classic coronavirus.” Transmission study could be one of the hardest things to get right inside “a lab” to the extent you don’t do a good enough simulation of the real world.
Yes, indeed he did. He also said, "Don't let a good crisis go to waste." I did a quick internet search on this and guess what the first thing that came up was? A Federalist Society conference on the various governmental power grabs that have occurred as a result of COVID and whether or not our governments will ever relinquish these powers after COVID subsides. Cass Sunstein is one of the featured speakers: https://fedsoc.org/conferences/covid-19-the-law-conference?#agenda-item-regulation-or-don-t-let-a-good-crisis-go-to-wasteI haven't listened to it yet so I don't know what he said there.I'm starting to think that this whole Great Reset thing is just a matter of taking advantage of an existing crisis to further various previously existing agendas. I don't think this assumption is spurious. After all, there's a long history of using environmental concerns to try and crack down on human freedom and consumption. Klaus Schwab's ranting about transhumanism and the 4th industrial revolution, though, is probably just that: ranting.As to Event 201 which ostensibly demonstrates prior knowledge of the pandemic, it may be due to something similar that happened with 911. Listen to Al Franken's infamous "I got the Jew call" (his words not mine) admission:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUupziRrqg8To me it would not come as a shocker if we were to learn that the organizers of Event 201 received similar advanced warning and that they were long-prepared to capitalize on the eventuality of a pandemic or an outbreak of biological warfare. Whatever the case, I no longer think this is essential to understanding the origins of COVID. With that said, I do think the people behind the Great Reset really are attempting a power grab on behalf of western governments, but this should probably be addressed as a separate issue from the question of Covid's origins.Replies: @Ron Unz, @Morton's toes
In fact, didn’t that Cass Sunstein fellow years ago say that the using “cognitive infiltration” to promote ridiculous nonsense was the best means of defeating “conspiracy theorists” on the Internet? It worked pretty well for 9/11, so why not apply it to Covid-19 as well?
I’ve been reading your various clarifications to me and others and the more I think about it, I do believe your theory is head and shoulders the only one currently justified by the available evidence.
Thanks for the kind words.
I’m starting to think that this whole Great Reset thing is just a matter of taking advantage of an existing crisis to further various previously existing agendas. I don’t think this assumption is spurious.
Sure, I agree with that 100%. Various groups are always trying to take advantage of major world events for their long-planned policies.
As to Event 201 which ostensibly demonstrates prior knowledge of the pandemic, it may be due to something similar that happened with 911. Listen to Al Franken’s infamous “I got the Jew call” (his words not mine) admission:
That’s certainly possible. One reason I didn’t pay much attention to the Event 201 issue is that various international groups have been publicly warning about future global epidemics for decades, as I’ve read in my newspapers. So when one of those warnings actually comes true, it doesn’t necessarily imply foreknowledge.
On the other hand, you might entirely be correct that the Deep State Neocons (or whomever) who were behind the attack decided to spread some “advance knowledge” to various elite groups, though in a fairly vague way, e.g. “Our intelligence analysts have become very concerned about the possibility of a global epidemic within the next few years.” Since those previous waves of viral diseases hitting Chinese food production had begun in 2018, there would have been plenty of time for WEF Event 201 to have ramped up, despite the organizers absolutely no specific awareness of the planned biowarfare attack.
By contrast, the secret November DIA report reported that there was a “cataclysmic” disease outbreak currently taking place in Wuhan, which is an extremely specific and precise claim, and why it might be considered “a smoking gun.”
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Oh what a tangled web we weave when at first we start to deceive
According to Amazon, the publication date for that Economist issue is January 1, 2018
When did they start planning this?
ZEROCRED eh ?
May 19, 2021 at 1:10 pm GMT • 3.2 hours ago ↑
Consider this:
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/watch-communist-professor-declares-us-was-defeated-biological-war-china
Chen Ping, Senior Researcher at #FudanUniversity, professor at #PekingUniversity, says the #CCP won the trade war, science & technology war, and especially the biological war in 2020.
Its so obvious,
#CCP won the trade war, science & technology war, and especially the biological war [waged by fukus.]
Little by little, chipping away…
Some people criticize Mr. Unz for being “too neutral” and “too polite” on the topics he gives his attention to, but someone has to do this as well.
And sometimes it’s precisely this approach that helps crack the wall of lies.
Anyway, thank you for your writing efforts, Mr. Unz, and most of all for this website. It’s a sanity saver!
Release a stronger variant in South and South East Asia, and blame China for the fatalities, leading to proxy wars, product boycotts, and trade sanctions.
That exercise seems to have started with the Indian genocide and some MSM journalists finally waking up from their deep slumber and acknowledging the existence of Wuhan lab for the first time.
Hindi Chini bhai bhai.
“these two microscopic segments probably overlap considerably.”
I belong to the overlapping segment. I have watched most of the videos you are referring to, have read every single Q post, followed QAnon leaders in order to make a sense of all of this.
Gates, Schwab, Agenda 2030, Great Reset, Georgia Guidestones etc. are most likely clever distractions.
If de-population, especially of non-white population, were the goal of globalist eugenists all along, you must admit that they have failed miserably over the last hundred years.
Similar to how Q movement stigmatized white nationalism and legitimate demands for populist policies, blaming non-state actors, foreign powers and unaccountable unreachable billionaires takes the focus away from state actors, some of whom are elected, the United States government which is supposed to be for us, by us, and of us, and finally us, the US citizens, who are also indirectly responsible for the atrocities and genocides committed by our government.
Does not mean Gates, Schwab, global banking cartel, power-hungry billionaires are not evil. But they have more reliable, and more conservative, strategies of gaining power and money. Starting biowarfare is too unpredictable for their taste.
“why it is unthinkable that the bioweapon/lab leak story is just part of the psyop?”
Excess death stats globally, and personal first-hand experiences.
My first degree of social network, friends and family in India, personally know 30+ people who died in a compressed time period (last 45 days) from similar symptoms.
Covid-19 is BOTH a dangerous bioweapon AND a psyop. That’s why it has been so confusing and dividing the truth seekers into various camps.
Also very likely there are multiple variations of the bioweapon, with different levels of infectivity and fatality, which are released in different parts of the world at different times to achieve specific strategic objectives.
They are also known as "variants". Certain nations and groups of people are clearly targets. Vaccine deaths are already being misclassified as covid deaths as the PCR cycles are constantly being tweeked to produce the desired narrative. If someone who has been vaccinated dies with a PCR "positive", who is it that decides if it was a vaccine death or covid death?
"Also very likely there are multiple variations of the bioweapon, with different levels of infectivity and fatality, which are released in different parts of the world at different times to achieve specific strategic objectives."
Well, are there the excess deaths? The last time I looked it up, the worldwide death toll was around three millions, which is extremely low after nearly a year and a half. Strangely, numbers started to rise lately, whereas in the case of a really dangerous infection, they would have to rise in the initial phase and then rise ever less. My impression is, that ever more countries and doctors have been brought in line to go along with the scam. Therefore, the rise in numbers started belatedly.
Excess death stats globally, and personal first-hand experiences.
Yes, and the latest Indian variant as well.
Spike protein to Ace2 binding is the transmission breakthrough which can be leveraged to transmit any combination of pathogen payloads, some combinations much more harmful than others.
US and the western European variant was the most benign and was primarily designed for triggering socio-economic changes and experimental vaccine acceptance, not genocide.
US empire’s enemies got the more malignant variants.
Moderna warned today – “more dangerous variants coming”. So we may not have seen the last act of the greatest crime against humanity yet.
The timing is likely driven by second Indian wave. Increasing Indian animosity towards China and keeping India out of China-led strategic initiatives such as Belt and Road have to be among the top objectives on deep state / neocon Covid-19 agenda.
Could be. The way they manage the Indian thing is kind of interesting. “Kabbala Haaretz” is mostly characterized by the “news” media as “Black” — but she’s half Tamil Brahmin, and maybe 1/4 West African [father is a mulatto]. And the desis know it, even if the average American doesn’t. There has to be a reason why someone whose campaign was such a pathetic failure* [3% support when she dropped out] was picked as VP, and the Indian connection may well be part of it. It’s well-known, of course, that pajeets living in the US vote overwhelmingly for “anti-r****t” [anti-White] Democrats, while simultaneously supporting Hindu supremacists (BJP/ Modi) back home.
This is viewed as somewhat “problematic” under systemic semitism, as only one tribe is allowed to openly practice particularist morality to this extreme a degree (Zionism — yes! Hindutva… no). You can even find major semitic “news” outlets that are targeted toward international audiences whining about anti-White hatred in India — something they would never do when targeting an American audience.
Kabbala, of course, is not a big BJP/ Modi supporter. The Biden administration has a very clear policy on that. Remember, “too much” ethnonationalism is a bad thing for all goyim, not just Whites.
*See also Glow-in-the-Dark Petey
Perhaps it is not so obvious in myopic America, but one of the most amazing characteristics of this “pandemic” was the way in which the entire planetary media have all been singing from the same sheet of music. Whenever any state, or state media, deviates from the choreograph, they are slapped down with the sudden appearance of a new “strain”, “cluster” or some kind of economic or natural disaster.
The vocabulary of the Pandemic is also indicative of its man made origin. With every turn, new weaponized vocabulary is basted across the planetary internets and MSM. Here are some of my favorites: “Long Hauler”, “Break Through Virus”, “Cluster”.
In Europe one of the first victims of the pandemic was the hard fought for Schengen Accord. For some reason within the a space of a few weeks every country in Europe had closed their borders to private traffic and tourism. Now Europeans are told that if they want to be able to travel and vacation again that they will have to take the jab and get a bio-metric DNA passport.
The synchronized planetary experimental mRNA vaccine push is also very suspicious, as is the way that all mention or marketing of Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine were banned all across the west.
Of course most crass of all was the blanket censorship of social media across the entire planet, and the pushing of blatantly fake narratives about all kinds of things like lockdowns, masking, asymptomatic transfer, etc.
That many of the main propaganda agents have been caught lying and deceiving over and over, yet somehow have been shielded from any kind of scrutiny is another indicator that something very nefarious is at foot, not just within national borders, but internationally.
It is inescapable but that the entire pandemic has been orchestrated and directed by some evil force. Any thinking sentient being must be asking themselves who could it possibly be that could wield this much power.
Any semitically aware person connecting the dots and following the bread crumbs can only come to one conclusion: Covid is the jew-flu.
https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/danish-resistance-movement/
Of course most crass of all was the blanket censorship of social media across the entire planet, and the pushing of blatantly fake narratives about all kinds of things like lockdowns, masking, asymptomatic transfer, etc.
That many of the main propaganda agents have been caught lying and deceiving over and over, yet somehow have been shielded from any kind of scrutiny is another indicator that something very nefarious is at foot, not just within national borders, but internationally.
It is inescapable but that the entire pandemic has been orchestrated and directed by some evil force. Any thinking sentient being must be asking themselves who could it possibly be that could wield this much power.
“Also very likely there are multiple variations of the bioweapon, with different levels of infectivity and fatality, which are released in different parts of the world at different times to achieve specific strategic objectives.”
They are also known as “variants”. Certain nations and groups of people are clearly targets. Vaccine deaths are already being misclassified as covid deaths as the PCR cycles are constantly being tweeked to produce the desired narrative. If someone who has been vaccinated dies with a PCR “positive”, who is it that decides if it was a vaccine death or covid death?
It also seems to me that this entire Wuhan-Flu/Fort Detrich-Flu dialectic is just a form of limited hangout. Different variants likely originate from both labs, and it is all being wargamed in an ongoing event 201.
The real smoking gun will be the precise method used to dispense the spiked proteins. Now that billions of people have been turned into spiked protien factories the water is likely so muddied that we will never know how the disease was deliberately spread.
They are also known as "variants". Certain nations and groups of people are clearly targets. Vaccine deaths are already being misclassified as covid deaths as the PCR cycles are constantly being tweeked to produce the desired narrative. If someone who has been vaccinated dies with a PCR "positive", who is it that decides if it was a vaccine death or covid death?
"Also very likely there are multiple variations of the bioweapon, with different levels of infectivity and fatality, which are released in different parts of the world at different times to achieve specific strategic objectives."
Aerosolized sprays at hand-picked venues most likely.
Starting with nursing homes, long-term care facilities in Western countries where the most benign bioweapon variant was sprayed which can damage only the old and immunocompromised.
MSM propaganda on ‘super spreader’ events, 23 of Iran’s parliamentarians being targeted right at the beginning, and then Indian variant conveniently lying dormant for a year and resurrecting precisely during Modi’s election campaigns, all seem to indicate that specific venues and gatherings were targeted.
Entire human-to-human transmission, especially asymptomatic transfer, was a charade to push masks, lockdown and experimental vaccines. That was the psyop part of the operation.
Very clever and very evil.
Even idiots can be right sometimes.
They might be right in thinking a dangerous variant was unleashed on India a couple of months ago, but they might be wrong to think that China had anything to do with it.
More likely explanation is ZioUSA is preparing for a war against China.
An important step in that preparation is antagonizing India against China by stepping up the lab-leak propaganda, and giving them US-manufactured vaccine at the right time. The narrative will be – “China virus killed Indians, but ZioUSA vaccines saved them” – ensuring India stays on the ZioUSA side in the ensuing war.
the Unz hypothesis of a biowarfare attack by the U.S. is frankly ridiculous because the Deep State would have known that the economic damage here would be much greater than in China
Uh, what economic damage? To whom? The top 0.1% roughly doubled their wealth in the past year while their smaller competitors got crushed. Are you trying to tell me that the top 0.1% didn’t want that to happen? Really, REALLY?
Yes, the fly / drone that landed on Pence’s head during the vice-presidential debate could have been predictive programming. They are never shy of showing off, and probably have mastered more than one distribution method.
“I have no idea how closely the American medical-sphere works with the war-sphere in the US”
— Department of “defense” invested in both EcoHealth Alliance, and Moderna. Whitney Webb has written about those ties. You can check her archive here at unz, or check this article as a starting point.
Covid infections double every 3-5 days absent strong public health measures.
You continue to invoke this canard that COVID infections double every three to five days. Tell me, is that what this graph shows?
Not if the strain released / leaked from Ft. Detrick was different from the one that was released / leaked in Wuhan, Iran and North Italy.
2019 summer leak was a closed beta test of how infectious the weapon was. If that version were very benign, infections mostly asymptomatic, and since PCR testing had not yet started, health care providers wouldn’t really observe a new pandemic, but rather a cold / flu outbreak. Once the infectivity was proven in the field, they stepped up the toxicity in lab prior to releasing it against strategic enemies.
I don’t see your and gay troll’s hypotheses as mutually exclusive. They can be merged.