They’ll have to kill me first to give me the vaccine. That way they can be sure I didn’t die from it.

So… if all the people who died after getting the vaccine would have died anyway, the vaccine at the very least didn’t help. Even if it’s not causing death, it’s obviously not preventing it. I guess the new hospice approach is “nothing to be done but make them more uncomfortable and give them less time.”

Although Mr Hopkins is the best sarcasm available at TUR, I’m finding it hard to laugh at all regarding the scamdemic & subsequent vaccination nightmare.

Not only a miracle vaccine for Covid but also for cancer, heart disease and even old age. Nobody seems to die of these ailments any more.

They’ll have to kill me first to give me the vaccine. That way they can be sure I didn’t die from it.

Sure, but they’ll classify it as Covid-related, because, c’mon man.

You cannot control a person’s mind by controlling their body, but you can control a person’s body by controlling their mind. Ultimately violence is not only unpleasant but counterproductive to its typical goal of control. The long war can only be won by propaganda.

I realise this is tediously open minded, even naive but I’d like to know exactly which vaccines are causing which deaths. I know Pfizer is a handy little killer, but I’d like to know what the other Vac’s are up to, also. (ie indulge me)

A vision of the near future presented by globalist benefactor Klaus Schwab:

I’ve had a few hundred COVID-shaped yellow stickers with the words “No Vaxx” printed on them, and will start wearing them or handing them out to like minded people when the authorities or companies start to mandate the jab as a precondition of returning to normal life.

Interestingly Schwab seems to be the “man who never was” — you are told some general info on him and his Nazi era Father but everything else is wiped clean — no real details other than the bio provided can be found/exist — who gets that kind of treatment?

My blog (new site irishsavant.net) was nuked after two related posts on Covid and 5G were blocked. I got a warning as I was writing the one of 5G! Suggests globohomo might see this as their most vulnerable arena.

Keep it up, CJ! (I’m saying this for the umpteenth time!)

From a distance (the left picture) that tattoo looks like a nifty little Star of David.

I know a very smart and antinomian person who is more concerned about the chronic inner organ damage from the plague than the deaths. That ol’ inner organ damage that doesn’t show up on such screeds. It’s always all or nothing at all. Just like science fiction movies. They always gotta save the universe, not just some little measly planet.

While I’m on the side of “forget about the virus and move on”, I think there’s a lot to be said for the “organ damage” angle. Both I and my 86 year old mother were infected with the “virus” early on when there was only supposed to be a handful of cases. My mother was VERY sick compared to a “bad flu”. Today she experiences “COVID tongue” whenever she eats milk products and has lost her sense of smell. In my case I had an ordinary “bad flu” episode, and have lost much of my hearing. It points to brain damage in my opinion.

You cannot control a person’s mind by controlling their body, but you can control a person’s body by controlling their mind

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Suggest you read Darkness at Noon for a competing viewpoint. You might be surprised how much mind control can be managed by locking people up and cutting them off from social connections.

the question you have to ask is why are they doing a massive world vaccination on an experimental vaccine? Really, what could go wrong?????

I refuse to be Hakcinated

after all

the zombies that follow main scream media need someone to point the finger at and scream

the possibilities for future applications of messenger-RNA technology, and the genetic modification of humans, generally, is virtually unlimited at this point.

I’ve been saying for months that that’s the real plan – a massive test of the new mRNA technology to later apply it to make further changes in human cell machinery. Well, they don’t even make a big secret of that. It’s just that most people don’t question anything.

Another data point. First, children were basically immune to Covid. Now after the vaccine was released, there are growing cases of MIS-C in several children. It could be another scare tactic, of course. But I bet that diseases will increase, not be reduced, after the deployment of this fake “vaccine” in billions of unsuspecting sheep, I mean, people.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-02-25/l-a-county-covid-19-hospitalizations-hit-three-month-low-while-mis-c-cases-climb

https://www.cdc.gov/mis-c/index.html

Whatever happened to the reports that 20-50% of people have T-cell immunity to SARS CoV2 from past infections by other coronaviruses?

Since they have vaxed so many people they will never reveal negative effects ever it will be too cataclysmic.

They are still denying gulf war syndrome 30 years later which may have largely been caused by wmd vaccines given.

If you want to know you would have to study stats over the next 10 years or more

Negative effects will show huge spikes in certain conditions like MS for example that would be explained away by authorities.

But the data will be there for those looking

Vaccine passports now. All over the world. Fuck these psychos. Mass civil disobedience is the only way.

The evil globalists are using an easy to discredit propaganda campaign to convince their compliant, gullible, obedient supporters to take a vaccine that kills or sterilizes them leaving the planet with a much higher percentage of surviving opponents who refused the “vaccine”. That’s what I want to believe. Please confirm though that Zone 23 does not have a plot twist involving a vaccine for a fake pandemic that is really an inoculation for a soon to be released bioweapon.

Total bullshit article. The 46 patients that died in Cádiz, Andalucía, Spain had just received the first jab. Everyone knows that total immunity is achieved 15 days after the second shot (3 weeks after the first jab). They were already infected when they got the first dose of the vaccine.
So you have to assume the writer didn’t check the other cases. Be careful. This is real.

This will never end, unless people simply start refusing to obey at some point.

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/band-practice-in-bright-green-covid-19-bubbles-how-the-return-to-high-school-looks-in-central-washington/

This boomer is finally realizing that his audience doesnt want to hear about “ebil gnatzees”.
Applause?

You cannot control your body’s autonomous functions directly. You cannot regulate your digestive function just by thinking about it. You must do so indirectly. What you can do is regulate your breathing, and this is what Yoga teaches. You can regulate your heart rate by controlling your breathing.

The heart is the fulcrum chakra. Above are the three superior chrakas of speech, insight and transcendental thought. Below are the body’s chakras, the digestive, sexual and root chakras.

The Heart mediates between the lower and the upper realms. The only means by which the higher functions can influence the lower is through the heartbeat, which is regulated through breath control. Learn deep, rhythmic breathing. If you don’t want to do Yoga, swimming is ideal.

Not tedious. Relevant.

If we’re talking American vaccinations, it will have been Pfizer first, Moderna second. As far as I know, nothing else is being used there yet.

Of course, in true dystopian fashion, they are saying outright that you won’t have a choice and that you should take whatever they give you. Probably not true, but I’m not there and can’t verify.

AstraZeneca, Sputnik, and the Chinese vaccines are available in various other countries, but here again, the phony furor over “availability” means they can stick you with whatever they have. Johnson & Johnson is available in South Africa, and as usual, Brazil was the proving ground for that one. FDA voting on it shortly.

Hate to shill for China, but – they are going to back everyone into a wall about getting a vaccine, so if you can, get SinoVac or the other Chinese one (forget name atm); both are normal dead-virus vector. SinoVac is available in Turkey, for example
All others are mRNA or adenoviral vector, the latter also more or less experimental and with its own history of casualties.

I am not advocating for vaccination, especially not for Gates’ fake pandemic and his frankenvaccines, but they will not leave us a choice, and everyone has to accept that. Gates and the consortium of technocrats chose this moment to clamp down on the entire planet. Only thing we can do is try to dodge their manoeuvres.

My take is that the Gates-Big Pharma complex obviously doesn’t want any competition at all, especially not from Russia or China, but they can’t come out and say “competition should not be allowed”, as, at the very least, those two nations will not play along – so they also have to allow companies like AstraZeneca and Johnson&Johnson to sell their adenovirus vaccines. There is still a geopolitical ceiling to what these people can do, but I don’t expect it to last much longer or give us anymore room. Russia, for example, believes the WHO to be an objective body, and not what it actually is – essentially the church of Gates’ new dispensation.

This is the logic of their “it doesn’t matter which vaccine you get” dogma and all the noise about effectiveness. They don’t want anyone distrusting the mRNA vaccines, because that technology, and the attendant ID2020 passport, are two of the jewels in Gates’ Infinity Gauntlet, if you’ll excuse the metaphor. They’d rather profit off of us directly with the mRNA vaccines, but any vaccine will do if it gets us plugged in to ID2020 – where we’ll receive our regular alerts for “new strain” booster shots and so on.

I would advise any single, able-bodied man reading this comment, who does not want to be forced into this way of life, to remain single and head for the hills … of Papua or Western Sahara.

For a short while CJ was almost a Covid true believer, but he is clearly now a sinner very much reformed and there is much joy in heaven. His brand of pithy humour is vital, if we are ever going to end the utterly fake Covid pandemic.

From a distance (the left picture) that tattoo looks like a nifty little Star of David.

It sure does. I wonder if that tattoo proves he’s a holocaust survivor.

Who believes that all these bozos like Gates, Fauci, Prince Charles are really getting the “jab”? This latest one really proves what a complete and total sham this vaccine psyop is. ‘Think about others rather than yourselves’: The Queen makes plea over vaccine take-up as she says jab ‘didn’t hurt at all’

Just look at the Nurses belt buckle…

NHS vaccine chief hailed monarch’s remarks an ‘incredibly important vote of confidence’ in the programme

“Earlier this week Prince William made a point of saying on the jab: ‘I’d be at the front of the queue if I could, just to prove that it’s OK, but I have to wait my turn.’“

lol

The US authorities will not recognize SinoVac or Sputnik V or any vaccine not ‘approved’ by the FDA. So Americans not on the list of ‘elites’ (such as US embassy personnel in Russia, who are clamoring for the Sputnik jab, apparently) will have no choice.

Remember: Joe Bidet has reportedly ordered 600 million doses of the Pfizer/Moderna jabs (https://apnews.com/article/vaccine-biden-600-million-doses-july-b7845a7d0f709199265d9243598b629e), thus accumulating enough to fully vaccinate 300 million people.

Based on 2019 figures, there are about 330 million people in the USA with about 73 million being kids under 18, leaving just under 260 million adults to be jabbed.

Thus, the authorities have provided a large margin for wastage (or hidden plans to jab a lot of our kids, too), and it would seem they are hell bent on getting every single adult poked with the experimental gene therapy that is 100% safe and effective, as long as you define ‘safe’ as occasionally killing recipients, and ‘effective’ as not providing immunity or stopping transmission……

So as not to appear racist, I’ll wait until every person of color on the planet gets their vaccination before me. Aren’t I saintly?

LOL. What a clown.

Everyone knows that total immunity is achieved 15 days after the second shot (3 weeks after the first jab)

Then how come many governments are delaying the second dose for months due to vaccine shortages and saying that “just one dose is OK”, or that “it’s better one dose than none”.

Also, why the two doses?? It’s the first vaccine I’ve ever hear that you need two doses, so close.

Now they are saying that you will need a vaccine every year or every six months:
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/pfizer-ceo-says-often-youll-184632967.html

Also, “total immunity” is bullshit. The vaccine doesn’t give you “total immunity”. Actually, it is not clear if it gives you any immunity at all!

You must me a retard, a paid Pfizer agent, or a troll. Wake up, retardo. They’re trying to kill you, or turn you into a human GMO.

They likely would still lie and say you died from Covid-19 complications.

You can’t build the perfect future of a brave new world order until you have scientists gently forcing all the masses to do what the scientists know is best for the masses. And as the scientists are paid by the billionaires and the big governments, there is absolutely nothing to worry about.

Hanging fauci from the highest lamp post available would go a long way toward healing.

The following are some questions concerning the Covid-19 pandemic:

If the masks work—Why the six feet?

If the six feet works—Why the masks?

If both of the above work—Why the lockdowns?

If all three of the above work—Why the vaccines?

If the vaccines are safe—Why protect them with a no liability clause?

If the vaccines are safe—Why not test them on animals first before using them on humans?

If the vaccines are safe—Why did Tiffany Dover, a healthy 30-year-old nurse, faint 17 minutes after receiving the vaccine? Is Tiffany Dover dead? Why are so many other people having adverse reactions and dying from the vaccines?

If successful vaccines have never been developed for other coronaviruses—Why should we expect successful vaccines for this coronavirus?

If SARS-CoV-2 exists—Why has it never been isolated?

If SARS-CoV-2 has never been isolated—How can an effective vaccine be developed?

If the RT-PCR test works—Why so many false positives?

If Kary Mullis, the inventor of the RT-PCR test who conveniently died in August 2019, said his test shouldn’t be used to diagnose infectious diseases—Why use it to detect SARS-CoV-2?

If there is an epidemic—Why so many empty hospitals?

If large numbers of people are dying from SARS-CoV-2—Why so many fake causes of death on the death certificates? Are flu deaths being recharacterized as COVID-19 deaths?

If SARS-CoV-2 exists—Why give doctors financial incentives to diagnose SARS-CoV-2?

If the official COVID-19 narrative is defensible—Why censor people who dispute this narrative?

I am not advocating for vaccination… — Marshall Lentini

Yes you are…

… but they will not leave us a choice … — Marshall Lentini

One always has a choice. You’re simply unwilling to accept any consequences for defiance.

… everyone has to accept that. — Marshall Lentini

Why?

Could you kindly state any significance of your “Nurses belt buckle” image.

I found what might be a contemporary source here, with the part-caption: “pictured leaving King Edward VII Hospital in 2013”

Here’s a better image:

I found a story here, the belt buckle being of some interest ‘back then’ – but no further info.

Another image-search result, titled: “Royal Masonic Hospital London”, this might be it.

Looks to me like ‘nothing to see here; move on,’ hmmm? rgds

“I would advise any single, able-bodied man reading this comment, who does not want to be forced into this way of life, to remain single and head for the hills … of Papua or Western Sahara.”
Like it. But Papua & Sahara are just too unstable for me. I’d rather go to ground in NZ or Nth Aust’. Admittedly there are trade offs with this view — but Kalashnikovs & mad bastards with machetes (& bits of wood or bones thru their dicks?) is a bit much for this little old black duck.

“If the masks work—Why the six feet?

If the six feet works—Why the masks”
No contradiction — neither works perfectly – that’s admitted.
“If both of the above work—Why the lockdowns?”
Again neither are perfect (nor are lock down so unless done right)
“If successful vaccines have never been developed for other coronaviruses—Why should we expect successful vaccines for this coronavirus?”
Very good question.
Why censor? Good question. The authorities have ZERO patience for contradiction (ie their fascist instincts are growing by the day).
Control the narrative — where I am you virtually NEVER here any contradiction of the narrative.

Australia and NZ are cucked. How about taking Putin up on homesteading in Siberia? Everyone is running out of places to run to.

“Ultimately violence is not only unpleasant but counterproductive to its typical goal of control. The long war can only be won by propaganda. ”

Tell that to the French Haitians.

“You cannot control a person’s mind by controlling their body,”

Not true. Forcing people to endure incarceration, torture, physical exhaustion, isolation, drugging, starvation; all of these are physical controls that clearly have an effect on the mind of the subjects enduring them.

I took this quote below from Lin Wood Telegram channel and it accurately summarize stupidity of current Covid-19 Vaccines or whatever they are:

“”
Q. Did you take the Covid vaccine?
A: Yes.

Q. Do you know that you can still get Covid?
A. Yes.

Q. Do you know that you can still spread Covid to others?
A. Yes.

Q. So you know that you still have to wear a mask (or two!) and social distance?
A. Yes.

Q. Then why did you take the vaccine?
A. [Silence]

Q. Did you take the vaccine because you knowingly wanted to modify your DNA?
A. I did not know that. I did not read up on the vaccine before I took it. Does it really do that???

Moral of the Story: When you are given the right to choose, educate yourself so that you can choose wisely.

ALL choices have consequences.””

True. It was a very good piece of writing — the truth is the “Vaccine” is not about your health but about multi-Billions to positioned Big Pharma/Gates and the Agenda they and the NWO Satanists plan to roll out on it of “Vaccine ID”/ongoing “vaccinations” which will be used to control/terrorize, demoralize and depopulate the Peons — most of which are cheering it on…the fact that the cheap remedies for this Cold Virus have all been lied about if not removed tells you all you need to know about what is up — the Medical authorities we are all suppose to “praise” as “heroes” are in on it basically and despicable. Bought off and owned by Big Pharma decades ago.

This scam has been long planned by the NWO creeps of the Rockefeller Foundation/Gates Foudation and their legion of “Experts” seeded in at every level of Society — Gates admitted in an interview in 2019 that he is a “Minor Wizard” and “Spells” can’t affect him — that is a rank of Satanist under the highest rank of “High Wizard” — almost no one picked this up unfortunately. No doubt many of them networked with him are Satanists also: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/07/bill-gates-says-jobs-was-a-wizard-in-getting-staff-to-keep-apple-alive.html

This ex-Satanist said he knew and worked with Gates: https://padreperegrino.org/2020/10/kingfinalaud/

I just read your Who Built New York? Welcome back, Irish.

“Who knows? In another hundred years, we will probably be able to genetically cleanse the human species of age-old scourges, like racism, sexism, anti-Semitism, homophobia, transphobia, etcetera…”

You won’t be able to cure anti-Semitism in a million years because YHWH won’t let you… the chosen deity knows how its bread is buttered or fat is procured!

When I read your comments I want to take a dump. I cannot control my body or my mind.

Some of the things you say defy relevance and in most cases intelligence. Were you administered the vaccine ? To your head ??

If people know the vaccines are dangerous why are they taking the vaccines ?

People have an inherent desire to believe and risk their lives on that belief. They think that a well dressed expert in a $3000 suit with calm soothing words and reams of research has their welfare at heart.

These gullible individuals stake their lives on the roll of a loaded dice !

Know that they all lie and stay alive.

Your comment made me laugh. What you are saying is that you will surrender your white privilege LOL .

Your self sacrifice is bound to trigger somebody ! Most likely Al Sharpton who will accuse you of using blacks as experimental animals.

Are you truly unaware of what Fremasonry is about?

In your wiki article is this:

The Freemasons’ War Hospital, was opened by London Freemasons with support from lodges in Gloucestershire (Royal York Lodge, Stroud) and around England during the First World War in Fulham Road, London, in the premises of the former Chelsea Hospital for Women, and treated over 4,000 servicemen by the end of the war.

Those brotherly masons were so concerned that they founded a hospital to help repair all those who survived the gassings and machine gunnings during their genocide of millions of Europeans.

Did you know that Washington and all the “founding fathers” were freemasons? What about the Jacobins? And Napoleon? What about Marx? Of course there was Judah Benjamin, Jefferson Davis, Albert Pike, Sherman, Grant and Lee all conniving together like freemasons during the civil war. Leading up to WWI the entire round table and the Eugenacists were masons, incldung Kipling. Churchill was leading the masonic genocide of Europe during both wars. The Black Hand masonic lodge saw to it that Archduke Ferdinand was assassinated in July 1914. Of course there is that weird cooincidence that the car Ferdinand was driving had the date of the end of WWI on its plates (A111 118). Balfour the freemason wrote the letter to Rothschild the freemason declaring the creation of Israel in 1917. Then there is the fact that the Spanish Civil war was started by Freemasons, and Franco, Mussolini, Hitler and Petain all banned freemasons during WWII.

So could it possibly be that freemasons running amok in every planet across the globe (Mao was a Yali) might have something to do with the sycronized lockdowns and vaccination propaganda? You tell me…

Fremasonry is merely kabbalism for non-jews.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/why-its-reasonable-to-consider-the-significance-of-event-201-immediately-before-the-covid-19-crisis

The Hep A vaccine is done in two doses, I think several childhood disease vaccines do a “booster” six months after the initial dose.

In any case, the mRNA technology is not a vaccine, it is a genejacker – permanently polluting the recipient on a genetic level. What happens when one genejacked individual breeds with another? Or a non-polluted individual?

In any case, the consistent result of all mRNA manipulation of target mammals so far has been immune system collapse. We are already seeing it in children, with rapid and evolving immune responses- adults will take longer, but in six months to a year……..

Covid19 = Israel = farming humanity = NWO = Plandemic

From a distance (the left picture) that tattoo looks like a nifty little Star of David.

That is the first thing I noticed, then I noticed your handle is Jew-Watcher. LoL

Basically, if you don’t have a jew-dar turned on, you are ignorant of reality or have something wrong with your brain function.

Certain secretive in-groups like to advertise using symbols.

There are six points, six larger included triangles, and six smaller triangles. 666

The interior circle may be something new to their library. “One world” perhaps? Or, the point in the middle is the hole left behind from the jab. I’m reaching here because I’m an outsider… but using symbols is serious business to certain in-groups.

Covid-19 does not exist, it has never been isolated and even the privately owned for profit corporations the CDC and the WHO admits it does not exist, it was conceived in the demented minds of the WEF and the Rockefeller and Gates Foundations and the UN with their UN Agenda 2030.

Covid-19 is the bigges scam and psyop in the history of the world and the vaccines are a straight out genocide agenda to cull the herd for the globalists.

Given this site/forum’s routine admonition that the mass-media is completely corrupt and untrustworthy, it would be nice to see some self-reflection about references to the most salacious sources of factoids in a piece with an overt editorial bent to sow fear, uncertainty and doubt.

There’s nothing standing in the way of the author applying 1600 words to help readers comprehend trade-off of risks and benefits of uncertain treatments for uncertain disease in uncertain times. And such an article would be of civic value.

This article isn’t muck-raking, it’s just a lazy rehash of thought blobs produced by a media that is tending towards use of A.I. technology to construct feeds with details that are sufficiently arousing to retrieve marking affiliate cookies from from the readers PC.

The NYTIMES may have fallen off a cliff, but there’s never been any pretense that the DailyMail and the NYPost are news sources of record. You really don’t want to try to understand epidemiology through a media that prizes its rad skillz for tracking what Meghan Markle was eating for brunch yesterday.

Unless the only point of this article is to generate FUD? Hmm… Why would a site catering to Ex-Republican America haters want that?

All I’m saying is, for all the bloviating about media hygiene and the impoverished and corrupt corporate news, this place sure does depend on mining zmsm factoids for hydrogen to fill its thought dirigibles.

Or perhaps it’s part of a plan for global population control.

No, we should laugh, most ideological manias die from ridicule…

The preachy corona-bros are in a mental tailspin. Humor horrifies them because it reminds them they are going mad and they can’t stop. It will not help today, too many are deep into it. But manias burn out after 3-4 years, just buckle up (and hide) until 2023. I guarantee you that none of today’s corona-bros will ever admit to how stupid they were…it will be all ‘what me?‘ or ‘who knew?‘

It is always that way, midwits are midwits because they lack critical thinking. Worse, they abhor critical thinking. They always follow the textbooks…see NY Times to where that leads.

Covid19 = Israel = farming humanity = NWO = Plandemic = global warming = cow farts = food revolution = starvation = holodomor 2.0 = war on carbon = no meat = gmo = green power = power failures = agenda 21 = agenda 2030 = georgia guidestones = WEF = great reset = no middle class = globo-homo = pedophilia = tranny stasi = eretz Israel = war on Syria = war on Lebanon = war on Gaza = war on Yemen = war on Egypt = war on Iran = war on Russia

Fremasonry is merely kabbalism for non-jews.
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It wasn’t always that way. The original masonic lodges were a form of deism, where they worshiped the logic of the universe, and were trying to understand the logos. This was a white man creation, not Jewish; they were trying to understand the natural order.

Various tradesmen would join the masonic lodges, something like it was a trade union. They also policed themselves so they did good work in the construction of buildings and the like, and not taking sordid gain on their fellows.

So, you are right in the word Freemason is different than mason. Free-Masonary lineage is directly from Frank Jacobs who in turn was an acolyte of Sabatai Sevi. Sevi (1666)re-oriented Judaism even more toward Kaballa, if that can be believed. 1666 was a special year for the Jews and Sevi was god incarnate. Things like the Kol-Niedre were turbocharged under Sevi, to include advance prayers to pre-wash away the sin of crime and usury i.e. the family business.

The founding fathers of the U.S. were more deist and mason than free-mason. The (((oriental))) free-masonary lodges were new, and were making in-roads into America during the colonial period.

Simultaneously, Atlantacist finance capitalist constructs were infiltrating London, led by the Bank of England (1694) to then subvert England.

It is amazing that the founders saw so much, given that finance capitalism and atlantacism was relatively new on the world scene, Judeo-Christianity was new, and then there was infiltration of the masonic lodges using Kabbala techniques.

If you read Franklin's biography, you can see that he is not hostile to religion, but he does note inherent contradiction to some Judeo-Christian sects belief systems. Franklin was interested in improving the commonwealth, not in extracting and being a secret society like free-masons.

Even Franklin's Junto was well known, and he spread Juntos (groups of wise men) into other colonies, rather than letting them grow into a centralized pyramid system.

Your comment is the one that seems written by an AI bot… Both unintelligible and stupid…

There’s nothing standing in the way of the author applying 1600 words to help readers comprehend trade-off of risks and benefits of uncertain treatments for uncertain disease in uncertain times. And such an article would be of civic value.

Let me help you with that.
– Risk of getting Covid: unknown (PCR test unreliable as a method)
– Risk of dying from Covid if you’re under 82 years old: 0.04% or lower
– Risk of the mRNA vaccine: unknown (no long-term studies whatsoever, and several side effects as well as hundreds of deaths already reported (check VAERS))

I love the ending of this article at the Jpost. The Israeli doctor says:

Linial expressed similar sentiments: “Classical vaccines were designed to take 10 years to develop. I don’t think the world can wait for a classical vaccine.”
But when asked if she would take the vaccine right away, she responded: “I won’t be taking it immediately – probably not for at least the coming year,” she told the Post. “We have to wait and see whether it really works.”

LOL. “The world cannot wait, but I can”.

https://www.jpost.com/health-science/could-an-mrna-vaccine-be-dangerous-in-the-long-term-649253

Why should ANYONE want to get this mRNA vaccine, unless forced to??

There is a better way to develop vaccines. Do it with government dollars and provide the solution to the world without patent protection, for the sake of everyone’s health. It wouldn’t hurt to curb Corporate power while we’re it, between Citizens United, an unsolicited Supreme Court decision granting freedom of speech to Corporations, as if they deserve the same rights as human beings. In the USA the background noise from advertising is deafening. It drowns out almost all intelligent thought. Clearly SCOTUS has shown their cards, they aim to make Corporate rule permanent, reshaping that imaginary legal construct into the reason for our existence, massive profits for a few, crumbs for the rest.

Corporate ownership of your genome is already accepted in our fucked up legal system. Our Government has a long history of lying to us, a habit which Trump amplified dramatically. These lies are most commonly observed in the context of regulatory capture, such as oil regulators that deny global warming. Their most sinister form is when lifetime bureaucrats in the deep State give sworn dishonest testimony to Congress and our President. But whether its the health effects of tobacco use, the Challenger disaster or the full story behind the serial murders of JFK, RFK and MLK, the truth does some out eventually.

But, no one should equate Corporate profiteering with a grand conspiracy to control your health and welfare. These issues are distinctly separate and there is zero risk or fairness in life.

Yours is very much a total bullshit reply. I live in Alberta, Canada, and the provincial government here has provided the public with a significant amount of data regarding the SARS CoV-2 panic, and this data does not support a characterization of the threat of SARS CoV-2 like yours.
There have been 5430 “cases” in people aged 80 and over in our province, in which 4218, or 77.7%, survived.
Among Covid “deaths”, of whom 84% were over the age of seventy, 72.3% had three or more of the following comorbidities:
Diabetes, Hypertension, COPD, Cancer, Dementia, Stroke, Liver cirrhosis, Cardiovascular diseases (including IHD and Congestive heart failure), Chronic kidney disease, and Immuno-deficiency.
Covid “deaths” have an average of 3.6 of those comorbidites.
But even with three or more comorbidities, 69% of such Covid “cases” survive.
At least 70% of all Covid “deaths” occurred among people who were already consigned to long-term care, where the pre-Covid life expectancy for a male was about two years.
So 70% of deaths are among people in long-term care, 84% are over the age of 70, 72.3% have three or more comorbidities, and still 69% of people with three or more comorbidities survive, and 85% of people over age 70 survive.
What is real is the fact that this entire phenomenon is a hoax.
Here’s a great example of how this lie works:
In past flu seasons, the vast majority of outbreaks occured in long-term care and assisted living facilities, with 71.1% in 2012-13 and 52% in 2013-14.
The rate of laboratory-confirmed influenza among people aged 80 and over has been as high as 7 times the rate in the rest of the population in the past ten years.
So it is well-established that such facilities are highly susceptible to outbreaks of infectious respiratory illness.
It’s so common for people in long-term care to contract influenza-like illness at the end of their lives that laboratyory testing of such individuals is rarely done. Until Covid arrived.
But here’s what the Candian Nurse’s Association says:
“The dreadful toll COVID-19 is taking on Canada’s
elders is both shocking and shameful. Shocking,
because no one foresaw that 80 per cent of
coronavirus deaths would befall residents of
long-term care.”
https://cna-aiic.ca/-/media/cna/page-content/pdf-en/2020-vision_improving-long-term-care-for-people-in-canada_e.pdf?la=en&hash=8C355FD009CFEEE990B69AB333B58119FD5C8D15

https://open.alberta.ca/publications/2561-3154

https://www.alberta.ca/stats/covid-19-alberta-statistics.htm#severe-outcomes

https://www.friendsofmedicare.org/alberta_seniors_deserve_better_from_our_govts

Only the bullshit is real.

Freemasonry is merely kabbalism for non-jews

Your kabbalism might be my cabal. We can deduce that there is some ‘organisation at the top’ which guides/controls/rules over otherwise ‘normal life’ including politicians, MSM and academia, plus probably most of the major corporations. My long-developed analysis:

{The US rogue regime = US-M/I/C/4a†-plex, with dog-wagging-tail, its illegitimate sprog the Zionist/Israeli rogue regime + Js = I/J/Z-plex, all components rife with corruption.

a = academic = econ, psy, leg et al.; 4 = MSM+PFBCs, † = churches

add a few significant stragglers like $ = banksters & ¿ = spies

MSM+PFBCs in full:

US/Z-MMH = corrupt&venal Media (aka press, radio + TV, incl. PFBCs = publicly financed broadcasters), Madison Ave., Hollywood etc..}

I term whoever is actually running that show ‘the cabal’ and was once ejected from an early blog merely for deploying the word.

It’s clearly a covert operation, and may well include freemasonry. So I match your

You tell me…

with my

Who knows?

But one thing for sure is it’s a truly *shitty* situation – where is the countervailing force? rgds

The National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases, the organization led by Dr. Fauci, funded scientists at the Wuhan Institute of Virology and other institutions for work on gain-of-function research on bat coronaviruses.
In 2019, with the backing of NIAID, the National Institutes of Health committed $3.7 million over six years for research that included some gain-of-function work. The program followed another $3.7 million, 5-year project for collecting and studying bat coronaviruses, which ended in 2019, bringing the total to $7.4 million.

They really really want you to get vaccinated with that concoction. Why are you worried? They are “entirely safe”. The big media and the big corporations said so.

“It’s time to get serious with Vacine Deniers”

Vaccines, including the COVID-19 vaccine, are entirely safe. There is nothing dangerous about them, and no ulterior motive to them. Distrust is a difficult thing to combat, and there’s often no use in providing evidence to those disinclined to believe (though here is some, just in case). It will be difficult to insist that our loved ones are simply wrong — and it may strain or temporarily disrupt some relationships.

But the stakes are too high for anything else. If a friend or family member tells you they won’t get the vaccine when it’s their turn, tell them in no uncertain terms that you will not see or speak to them until they do. Tell them that their mistrust is based on rumor, not evidence, and the vaccine is safe.

Don’t engage with misinformation, if they present it. It’s long past time to stop framing vaccine doubt as a debate; it’s not. It is the truth on one side, and a bizarre, dangerous lie on the other.

https://www.pittsburghmagazine.com/perspectives-its-time-to-get-serious-with-vaccine-deniers/

I’d love to have one!

Numerous legal position papers recently (e.g. CHD) state categorically: the vaccines can NOT be mandated by either private or public employers; federal and state law is clear.

FDA granted Emergency Use Authorization to the two vaccines – they have NOT “Approved” them (the Facebook fact checkers are absolutely incorrect) – EUA and Approval are legally distinct and have distinct legal consequences.

That Navy Admiral a few days ago gets this: “we can’t mandate them now, but when we can, we will” –

That will be the upcoming battle: FDA Approval

That tattoo is beyond creepy………..way worse than a simple number I saw tattooed on my mother’s jeweler on his wrist when I was a kid. He got it from a kindly government agency in central Europe.
Probably just to help…….like getting lost or something.

C.J., you are a funny guy and an interesting writer. But even if you directly attribute every single one of these deaths to the vaccines they still remain statistically irrelevant.

Almost never if ever commented on at UNZ is the fact that every government in the world is on the same page. Even non-“GloboCap.”

Who is “they”?

I have been vaccinated. Three members of my immediate family have been vaccinated. I know at least 300 friends and co-workers who have been vaccinated. I am part of a larger work community of at least 7,000. At least 5,000 of whom have been vaccinated. This hospital I work for has been involved in vaccinating the police, rescue, and fire departments for a major city. Friends of mine are members of those police and fire departments.

Do you think “we” might talk amongst ourselves and know about any negative stories…even before “they” do? Jus sayin

they still remain statistically irrelevant.

Not to the people who died and their families. Also, we have no idea of the long-term effects.

Almost never if ever commented on at UNZ is the fact that every government in the world is on the same page. Even non-“GloboCap.

Who is “non-GloboCap” at this point?

But certain countries did not do lockdown and they were fine. Africa and many Asian countries also mostly ignored Covid. (But they won’t be able to ignore the vaccine)

“It wasn’t always that way. The original masonic lodges were a form of deism”

The problem here is that the lower tier masons know nothing about what is going on at the top. It has always been so. Already a decade before the French Revolution Adam Weishaupt had already infiltrated the highest levels of freemasonry across Europe.

Ben Franklin, while staying in England during the Revolution, was an avid member of the hellfire club. There are lots of sordid tales about what Franklin was up to during his stays in England and France.

Then there is this entirely dubious explanation of Lafayette coming to the US and being “converted” to Freemason right before the French Revolution, plus Lafayette’s second role during that second revolution.

I simply do not know enough to be willing and able to enter into a long debate about what happened across Europe and America starting about 1770. I am convinced that this wasn’t just about freemason “deists”.

That the founders, as high level kabbalistic mason’s, were privy to some kind of long term satanic plot dating back hundreds of years and continuing into the present seems plausible to me.

We must all begin the practice of Mass Civil Disobedience.

https://tsarfat.wordpress.com/2021/02/24/cmanifesto/

Share it. Spread it. Disagree with it? Debate it.

I point out that where the vaccine is concerned, it must be avoided at all costs, not merely because of its side-effects, but because of the totalitarian precedent it will set. That is its biggest side-effect – a century of lockdowns, the lives of all humanity in shambles.

The average time it takes to approve a vaccine is 12 years. The success rate is near 30%, unlike most pharma products with their less than 5%.

This was true until 5 years ago, but the latest trend has not been quantified.

Autopsies on dead lab animals usually show damage to the liver.

This requires a one, two, and five year intervals. Not one vaccine, including Sputnik, has passed this test (except Sputnik has been more aggressive with publishing autopsy data, even if we’re talking 3 month intervals).

You have to be a complete idiot to jump on the Vaccine bandwagon. You are definitely better served with the original strain of the virus.

Critical thinking leads to “vaccine hesitancy,” which is why corporations are working with governments to immediately censor any and all content that deviates from the official Covid-19 narrative and deplatform the authors of such content, or discredit them as “anti-vax disinformationists.”

In other words – Money Talks. For example, vaccine maker Moderna has Covid-19 vaccine contracts (just for the next 12 months ) potentially worth 80.000.000.000 dollars ($ 80 billion)*.

Considering that vaccination really isn’t necessary, given the low risk of fatality, and given the heavy overcharging, then the whole thing is revealed as a giant corporate theft enabled by big pharma’s government and media friends.

* https://www.biopharma-reporter.com/Article/2020/08/13/Moderna-lands-US-COVID-19-vaccine-contract-worth-up-to-8bn

Good comment and it brings to mind a few relative things.

1) It still astonishes me that in this era with the most amazing information source in all of human history (the world wide web) many people still do not consult it to more broadly source information or to double-check “news”. Why are there still so many morons?

2) There is all the difference in the universe between allowing your own blood or body fluid to be drawn versus permitting yourself to be INJECTED with a foreign substance. Hello?!

3) There are treatments for Covid. The NIH/CDC/WHO and MSM want to withhold that info from the public (because they are genocidal criminals) but they exist! See # 1. You don’t need a phony vaccine — just let your immune system heal a bout with WuFlu or get some therapeutic help, if needed.

I really don’t have sympathy or empathy for those who blindly take those vaccines.

Almost never if ever commented on at UNZ is the fact that every government in the world is on the same page. Even non-“GloboCap.”

I think Armstrong has it right. Many countries are operating in coordinated fashion (see image collage in link) because they are being promised an ‘OUT’ regarding their unpayable, huge sovereign debt. https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/disease/covid-a-convenient-virus/

This is why we have all world leaders mouthing the same identical script to surrender sovereignty to the UN. They are being encouraged to do so BECAUSE they cannot deal with the repayment of debt. The real secret agenda is to default on debt because we will have a new government in place.

There isn’t really a lot of uncertainty about the “disease”. I like to take any opportunity that I can to point to the data provided by the provincial and federal governments where I live, Alberta, Canada.
The long and short is that we were told that SARS CoV-2 was highly likely to cause categorically higher rates of infection, morbidity and mortality than seasonal influenza.
In simple terms, the provincial government launched a comprehensive and unprecedented series of socio-economic restrictions in mid-March. There was no body of scientific evidence to support the implementation of these restrictions, and no body of scientific evidence that supported the contentions that SARS CoV-2 would produce these categorically different rates of infection, morbidity and mortality.
In the event, one year later, the only categorical differences between SARS CoV-2 and other viruses is the response of the government and health agencies.
Up to 80 times as many SARSCoV-2 tests are conducted daily compared to influenza testing in prior years.
Testing and diagnosis of Covid-19 occur frequently in the complete absence of clinical evidence, which is entirely unprecedented.
Infirm, very sick elderly people are tested for Covid when such individuals would not be tested for influenza prior to the advent of SARS CoV-2.
The severe outcome rates for SARS CoV-2 are not categorically different than those of seasonal influenza in the last eleven years:
The hospitalization case rate for influenza in the province has varied from 23.7 to 42 per hundred in the previous ten years. The hospitalization case rate for Covid-19 is 4.4 per hundred.
The ICU admission case rate for influenza in the province has ranged from 2.7 to 7.7 per hundred in the previous ten seasons. The ICU admission case rate for Covid-19 is 0.7 per hundred.
The only category of severe outcome for which Covid-19 appears to be more severe is deaths, but the manner in which deaths are assessed is completely different for influenza than it is for Covid.
In the past, only deaths in hospital with lab-confirmed influenza were counted. For Covid, hundreds of deaths among very sick, frail, elderly residents of long-term care were counted because unprecedented testing occurred during Covid. In the past, these people were not laboratory tested for infectious respiratory disease, and were not admitted to hospital at end of life, thus such deaths were never included in the influenza mortality tables.

https://www.alberta.ca/stats/covid-19-alberta-statistics.htm#severe-outcomes
https://open.alberta.ca/dataset/9044e65d-a97e-43cb-8357-9c890422f069/resource/dcd1cc27-57c2-4cf4-8078-3869f19b6390/download/health-influenza-summary-report-2018-2019.pdf
https://www.friendsofmedicare.org/alberta_seniors_deserve_better_from_our_govts

Given these facts, just who precisely displays a bent to sow fear, uncertainty and doubt?

We were supposed to take our two grand daughters, aged 4 and 5, this weekend. Unfortunately, starting earlier this week, our two grand sons, age 9 and 10, caught the flu. Then our son and daughter in law caught the flu too. Now the our two grand daughters have the flu as well, and our weekend plans have been cancelled. Nothing new here, this has been happening to families with kids for centuries.

Here is the problem: Children don’t catch “covid” and children don’t pass it on. But according to health “experts” and “scientists” across the planet, there is no flu anymore because of all the covid “measures”.

Could someone explain this cognitive dissonance to me? or is “covid” merely the draconian tyranny of fake narratives. Oh well, I guess we should just take whatever vaccine these “experts” and “scientists” declare to be “effective” and then we can be certain that all is well.

I don’t think you even hovered over any of the links. I don’t think you’re being genuine, because CJ isn’t linking to the news to gather and collect facts from which he articulates an essay but rather linking to them, for the most part, to showcase what’s being said by those articles to further the longer-running point CJ’s been making about the on-going information war. Like the title says, right? These are all scenes in that war.

Maybe you’re right that in another article, someone can discuss prophylactic ways to overcome specific or general viral infections, so as to supplement/complement/eradicate the largely ineffective strategies forced upon us by unelected technobureaucrats. That would be a different front in the larger information war, and worthy of its own essay or article. For example, Paul Craig Roberts used to post those kinds of help-yourself-to-get-healthy suggestions, but he, nor CJ, shouldn’t have to do that for every essay or article they write, nor for the one you happen to click upon.

Stupidity can occur at any age, but the elderly have been getting their news via the idiot box their entire lives and the idiot box say COVID bad, hide and get the jab.

“Covid-Schmovid,” new novel by Mike Palecek

Covid 1984 too.jpg

New from Mike Palecek

Fauci is merely a pimple on the face of one of the many heads of the Hydra.

Confined last March in very close quarters, the three people closest to me all caught it. One had mild symptoms for a mere three days. The second was down with everything BUT the fever for an entire week. The third needed hospitalization, was placed in a ventilator and died. Me, no symptoms all. Of course I never agreed to take the flu shots several weeks earlier. Coincidence? Maybe.

Thanks, no doubt you saw the upside down crucifix (satanist symbol) Melinda Gates was wearing in this interview with today, also reported elsewhere fastforward to 0.45 in the video.

These people remind me of the serial killers in movies who play cat & mouse with the police. They seem to get a thrill out of leaving little clues about who they are & what their intentions are.

https://www.today.com/video/melinda-gates-on-pandemic-we-haven-t-had-leadership-at-the-national-level-it-s-chaos-83195461782

Direct from the horse’s mouth: “Competition is a sin”. -John D. Rockefeller, the founding funder of Big Pharma.

Even if you didn’t know that at least 99.6 percent of those who test positive survive COVID-19, the very fact that all the same people who are wrong or lying about every single thing (race, democracy, economics, religion, history, “climate change”, the US, China, Russia, homosexualism, transgenderism, feminism, art, methods to teach children how to read, nutrition, fashion, etc. ad infinitum) are telling us with one voice that we must get vaccinated and that we are terrible and stupid people if we don’t makes for an extremely persuasive argument against getting vaccinated. I’m almost hoping some kind of vaccine passport will be imposed in the US because I’ve been vowing to leave this country for years and this would be thing that will finally get me to take that step.

I like your use of mathemes. You could also consider using emoji to help, if you’re into that sort of thing. For example, imagine the kinds of ideas you generate with 💱 or ㊙️ or 🙊

As for a countervailing force, do you know of/believe in higher powers, such as gods, demigods, or a Creator? Some people find that force in them.

If worse comes to worst in terms of their cutting you off from society, get a thousand dollars in cash, make an appointment to take the vaccine, and go in. If the individual with the needle looks propitious—say, black—tell him or her that you’re deathly afraid of needles and try to bribe them into signing that certificate saying you got their death serum. If he or she doesn’t look propitious, leave and try again later. This isn’t guaranteed to work, but there’s a good chance.

Free tattoo after shot certainly enticing.
Maybe a free branding, hot iron, better.

On forehead not arm.

Thanks, but “No, thanks!” to ‘gods’ = imaginary deities = impossible by conservation laws, and also ‘no’ to [unclear/undecipherable] emojis. rgds

According to a recent article by our friend The Saker, you don’t have to get a vaccine in Russia. The white nights, the canals, and the palaces of Saint Petersburg are suddenly looking more romantic than ever.

Moral of the Story: When you are given the right to choose, educate yourself so that you can choose wisely. — Garliv

You cannot be given a right, only an option or privilege. A right either exists or it does not.

Thus, this sentence can be re-written in one of two ways:

Moral of the Story: When you are given the option to choose, educate yourself so that you can choose wisely.

This sentence means the state has a right to compel compliance, but will allow you to choose.

— or —

Moral of the Story: You have the right to choose, educate yourself so that you can choose wisely.

This sentence means the state cannot compel compliance, because you have a right to choose.

Sorry to play English teacher, but… it matters.

Max Blumenthal was on with Jimmy Dore yesterday talking about the Twitter storm over some article he wrote at The Gray Zone dealing with European spy agencies and Bellingcat.

Anyhow, Twitter put a warning on Max’s tweet saying the material he used in his article might have been HACKED!

Of course then everyone ran to The Gray Zone and the site crashed from all the traffic. Big backfire for Twitter.

Then Max told Jimmy that many people had contacted him telling him when they clicked the “like” button at Twitter their browsers crashed!

Aight tough guy. Wait until you can’t get in to buy eggs or have a tooth crowned without your vaccine passport. Then we’ll do gotchas.

What does remaining single have to do with it?
Why does that only apply to men?
What are you talking about?
Are you a woman?

If you can even get to Russia without a “vaccine passport.”
And why s hould Russia actually accept “vaccine refugees”?

In any event I suggest you start learning Russian now.
There are some excellent videos at CollegeRussian.com.

It might turn you into the undead, however.

The virus can attack all body systems, just like the vaccine and its ‘adjuvants’. Scylla and Charybdis, as ever.

3% of nursing home residents die each month in normal years. At the height of the first wave that bumped to 6-10%. So if 30% die in a nursing home in 1 month after vaccinations, thats like 3-10 times the expected death rate. Pretty significant IMO

I guess the real winners here are pension funds and medicaid.

The ruling oligarchy controls 99% of the media in all their forms. So it could get its propagandists and brainwashers to answer every vaccine question, around the clock, but they prefer simple censorship and repression, instead. Interesting.

What’s the excuse for those under 70 not sourcing information more broadly than the idiot box (that’s what I call it too)?

“Unless the only point of this article is to generate FUD? ” – That is exactly what Hopkins is specializing in. Disinformation, sowing doubts and confusion to incapacitate to the point of paralysis.

“an article would be of civic value” – Social values are not a part of the Unz Review’s motto.

If however Hopkins wrote negatively about Sputnik V vaccine you can bet there would be a corrective whataboutist reaction from Ron Unz.

I’m 74 years old. I stopped watching TV 30 or 40 years ago. So has my 77-year-old friend that I live with.

” real winners here are pension funds and medicaid”

Bingo! – a very large portion of LTC residents are in “Medicaid beds” STATES pay 60-80% (sorry, I am guessing a bit but correct relatively). Fed Gov pays that or more for MediCARE (hospital costs) (and picks up the rest of the MediCAID costs)

Moving a patient from a hosptial to an LTC shifts costs to the states.

My state is perpetually on the verge of default (as is Illinois) – the incentive is therefore enormous to move the LTC folks “along” – tax revenues totally collapsed here Q2 2020 … the difference between solvency and default here might just have been the the cull of the elderly in the LTCs last year.

even if you directly attribute every single one of these deaths to the vaccines they still remain statistically irrelevant

I find it scarcely believable that even a child could possibly make such an idiotic argument.

If you DO “directly attribute every single one of these deaths to the vaccines” -which I for one certainly do – how “statistically irrelevant” are they to those who were killed by them ?

Do you even have an IQ ? I ask only for information.

but they will not leave us a choice, and everyone has to accept that.

No, we don’t and I will not.

☮

Me, no symptoms all. Of course I never agreed to take the flu shots several weeks earlier. Coincidence? Maybe.

Maybe not. There were indications the big Italian Covid-19 outbreak last spring occurred after an influenza vaccination program as well. I’ve seen no indication the possible connection has ever been investigated. However, the antibody-dependent enhancement effect appears to be fairly well established:

Many vaccines work by inducing neutralizing antibodies. However, not all antibody responses are created equal. Sometimes antibodies do not prevent cell entry and, on rare occasions, they may actually increase the ability of a virus to enter cells and cause a worsening of disease through a mechanism called antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE).

https://www.chop.edu/centers-programs/vaccine-education-center/vaccine-safety/antibody-dependent-enhancement-and-vaccines

Perhaps others with personal experience like yours could speak up.

Freemasonry and witchcraft all cozy. Who could have guessed?

This is the answer, overthetopism. If White men are so bad, admit everything. Even if something happens to a black on another continent, admit to it. It’ll drive these “WOKE” shitbirds crazy.

These people remind me of the serial killers in movies who play cat & mouse with the police. They seem to get a thrill out of leaving little clues about who they are & what their intentions are.

Yep, exactly. Biden’s repeated comment about an upcoming “dark winter” is being stated very deliberately. He knows what’s on the horizon. I’m hoping it doesn’t mean ‘nuclear’ but all those fancy, high-priced bunker towns have been built for a reason in the last decade.

In addition to the creepy upside-down cross (I’ve seen images of Chelsea Clinton wearing one too), Melinda and her husband both do something that always bothers me. They FAR overuse their hands when speaking….just constant flailing.

Whether I’m right or not, I always interpret that as someone trying to lend legitimacy to what they saying either when they’re lying or aren’t sure of their info but, are trying to appear that they are. Nancy Pelosi does it too, constantly! There were periods of time when Trump did also.

That the founders, as high level kabbalistic mason’s, were privy to some kind of long term satanic plot dating back hundreds of years and continuing into the present seems plausible to me.
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I agree.
I believe they found quite a number of skeletons under Franklin’s residence in England. The official explanation: back then it was difficult to get corpses to study anatomy, physiology etc so good old Ben had to buy them from grave robbers. I’m betting Ben had no garbage bags and hockey bags to smuggle out cadavers and even at 4am was afraid to be noticed.

I believe that the French and American Revolutions were colour revolutions and manipulated, inorganic events. Quite likely, the Glorious Revolution was a trial run. Cromwell’s letters clearly indicate his ((( scource))) of finance. History, in the last 300 years, has been a series of cons run by opportunists, schemers and satanists as far as I can discern. It is sordid and repulsive to see where these people have led us and where they intend to lead us.

Yep. No way to fully know. All we can do is look at their actions. It looks to me that there was an internal struggle.

**Trump gets vaccine shock!!!**

ODD – oppositional defiant disorder, is very odd indeed. would not have believed it without actually reading the links. more common in boys than girls, especially 2 to 3 years old … of course, Patrick Henry, Robespierre, Lenin, Castro, maybe Hitler too … all of them boys. get them when they are still young! very hilarious if it weren’t frightening.

“Can American society survive this legal-psychiatric assault on its moral and political foundations?” ~ Dr. Thomas Szasz

Great video on the mRNA-Vacation Episode 2 — mostly from the 40-41 minute mark.

“Via Max Igan and The Crowhouse – Bitchute Feb 24, 2021”

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=228481

Pass it on.

Try here for a good, non-Dr. expose:

“Via Max Igan and The Crowhouse – Bitchute Feb 24, 2021”

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=228481

Pass it on.

Since they have vaxed so many people they will never reveal negative effects ever it will be too cataclysmic.

And here’s your proof:

https://www.unz.com/runz/chinese-melamine-and-american-vioxx-a-comparison/

Lost my hearing from bad flu years ago, must have been invisible enemy that they rebranded to new name

“Also, “total immunity” is bullshit. The vaccine doesn’t give you “total immunity”. Actually, it is not clear if it gives you any immunity at all!”

On the contrary, it’s perfectly clear — and made so in the Vaccine Recipient Fact Sheets of the various `vaccine` makers — that these `vaccines` confer NO IMMUNITY at all.

Pfizer-BioNTech — FACT SHEET FOR RECIPIENTS AND CAREGIVERS
http://labeling.pfizer.com/ShowLabeling.aspx?id=14472

“The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine is a vaccine and may prevent you from getting COVID-19. There is no U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved vaccine to prevent COVID-19.”

“WHAT IS THE PFIZER-BIONTECH COVID-19 VACCINE?
The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine is an unapproved vaccine that may prevent COVID-19. There is no FDA-approved vaccine to prevent COVID-19.”

In other words, this is not approved as a ‘vaccine;’ it’s a ‘treatment’ and treatments don’t confer immunity.

Moderna — Vaccine Recipient Fact Sheet | EUA | Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine
https://www.modernatx.com/covid19vaccine-eua/eua-fact-sheet-recipients.pdf
“The Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine is a vaccine and may prevent you from getting COVID-19. There is no U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved vaccine to prevent COVID-19”

“HAS THE MODERNA COVID-19 VACCINE BEEN USED BEFORE?
The Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine is an unapproved vaccine.”

In other words, this is not approved as a ‘vaccine;’ it’s a ‘treatment’ and treatments don’t confer immunity.

Sharyl Attkisson https://sharylattkisson.com/2020/12/cdc-more-than-5000-covid-19-vaccine-recipients-have-reportedly-suffered-health-impact-event/

“Both vaccines are effective at reducing the risk of symptomatic COVID-19 for at least 14 days (Moderna) or more than two months (Pfizer-BioNTech)”

In other words, these are not ‘vaccines;’ They are ‘treatments’ for symptoms, at best.

It’s funny. You say:
“The 46 patients that died in Cádiz, Andalucía, Spain had just received the first jab.”

Then you insert a nonsense sentence.

Then you say:
“They were already infected when they got the first dose of the vaccine.”

How could you know that? Your logic is impaired. Don’t ask me to explain: it’s way outside your purview.

Regarding your nonsense sentence, everyone should know that total immunity is not achieved.

“15 days after the second shot” Nice punchline. Ridiculous! Reminds of that info-mercial “witness” on 9/11.:

All these labs need to be shut down by international agreement. Just like cyber security and nuclear weapons . The Russians proposed such a treaty for cyber-security but the USA refused, thinking they have an advantage. It makes the complaints about Russian hacking a bit ridiculous.

Is there a way to register ownership (copyright?) of your own genes?

If you cure semitism, antisemitism will disappear like snow on the water.

Average Jane and Joe aren’t very bright. They’re not stupid, but a blizzard of statistics has them well confused. Eventually they give up trying to figure it out and just go with what the President, or the Surgeon General, or Dr Who, or, or Bill Gates says. A 0.3% chance of serious illness or a 5 per thousand chance of rather serious side-effects? How can they figure that out?

Fauci is merely a pimple on the face of one of the many heads of the Hydra.

True, but this smug, smirking prick’s disinformation has potentially cost thousands of lives needlessly. Shame on the Orange Golfer for not firing him.

“I got a warning as I was writing the one of 5G! Suggests globohomo might see this as their most vulnerable arena.”

You might be on to something, here. The following are legally fighting 5G locally, apparently with some success:

#1. InPower (https://www.inpowermovement.com/)
#2. Anna von Reitz (http://www.annavonreitz.com/)

Excellent!
In 1984 a vaccine was developed to combat canine coronavirus, which was said to be decimating dogs. Turns out that claim came from the pharmaceutical company literature, but veterinarians weren’t finding that dogs were being unduly affected. One veterinarian dubbed it a “vaccine looking for a disease.”

Freemasonry is merely kabbalism……

You are incorrect on this as kabbalah is ancient Jewish mysticism and mysticism is teaching directly from the divine and thus can never be equated with zionism which of course comes from evil human minds alone.

Few understand how the ancient mystics of all faiths were in direct communication with God and how that led naturally to religious mysticism.

I see nothing wrong with original Judaism and its Mt Sinai god given to Moses commandments that are very clearly stated in the Torah and any one calling themselves a jew that breaks gods laws isn’t really a jew in my book as they don’t deserve to be in the religion club of the divine for breaking the club rules..

Some people are surprised at how likely it is that they will die in bed. But when you think about it, if you’re really old or really sick, dying in fact, you’ll probably spend a lot of time in bed. Disclaimer: I’m not saying beds kill people.

True – I live there, and no one is being forced to get it. The majority are frankly opposed to it. I don’t see them going the way of “passports” for access to domestic services, either, because Russians can’t readily organize at that level, but you never know. Sobyanin seems done with the whole charade, recently said something about dropping all theater by summer. Wouldn’t hold my breath, though.

It’s funny how I got some umbrage for stating the obvious – Anglin, Hail and I have been calling this from the start. It all obviously goes just one way. It isn’t prophecy, it’s merely extrapolating from the laws of power and technology: those in power will seek to retain or increase their power by any means, and technology always tends to dominate human relations.

The singularity was never going to be “AI”, but the intersection of social media, medical and surveillance tech, and political power. COVID was just the excuse to bring it on. The tech billionaires have won. There’s no way to dodge this unless one has the disposable income to move around pretty much constantly and with extreme care, or hides very far away from the centers of power. How is this not obvious to everyone by now?

In all sincerity, you had best leave really really soon because vaccine passports are coming.

I have considered how to get to freedom if even chartering a private jet requires a “vaccine passport”. My plan is to rent a nice SUV and drive it to Alaska. Then I’ll hire a bush pilot to fly me across the Bering Strait. From the town of Anadyr I can take a nonstop domestic flight to Moscow.

I’m listening to the Pimsleur Russian course and going through a book called Pequeno Curso de Língua Russa. Portuguese is my native language.

You are comparing Alberta (total population 4 million spread) with only half a million people over 65 y.o., living in the middle of nowhere, surrounded by snow and moose, with major urban cities in Europe like London, Paris, Madrid, Munich or Rome packed with a higher demographic density and a much higher elderly population rate. If you are stupid enough to believe this C.J. crap that’s your problem. Go ahead and go to crowded places without a facemask and inhale deeply next to your denier friends…let Darwin decide your destiny and ignore an airborne pathogen without a proven therapy.
Too bad biology classes in HS didn’t help you much when you were a kid.

“The dreadful toll COVID-19 is taking on Canada’s elders is both shocking and shameful. Shocking, because no one foresaw that 80 per cent of coronavirus deaths would befall residents of long-term care.”

Hey, Rufus. That “shocking” you’re talkin’ about, is that the same kind of “shocking” Condaleeza Rice was talkin’ about when she said that no one could have foreseen airplanes being flown into buildings, when in fact on that very same day, 9/11, the US Government was running multiple drills about just that scenario. Is that the one you mean?

“Only the bullshit is real.”

Isn’t that the truth. Question is, who’s bullshitting whom.

Yes, IF the vaccine is a weapon, it makes no sense for the deep state to only use it against their supporters. Therefore, if it is a weapon, at some point the vaccine will become mandatory. Alternately the vaccine could offer protection from a future plague that is actually deadly. Maybe the COVID 19 vaccine protects against a new chimeric Ebola virus that floats through the air. Coming very soon to a globe near you.

But, I think it’s only about profit. Selling worthless vaccines for moar fake dollars. Booster shots for 8 billion people every 6 months. Transition to a fully centralized global economy.

Humanity has become an anachronism. The Earth cannot support 8 billion humans. Not for long. It is time to collapse and speciate. Either that or become the pet population of an AI.

What’s past is prologue…

Did you have an argument to make or did you just need an excuse to say some nasty words?

Fremasonry is merely kabbalism for non-jews.

Masonry predates Judaism handily. The compass and square in symbolic conjunction are a global archaeological theme, along with the stone pyramid, which is of course the fruit of masonic knowledge and labor. Masons are temple and monument builders – for this reason they predate religion. Priests depend on Masons and not vice versa.

The compass and square in conjunction, forming the shape of a star, represent the human condition: the intersection of heaven and Earth. The compass is the measure of heaven (used to draw curves) while the square is the measure of Earth (used to draw lines and angles). Thus Masonic symbolism even anticipates the conflict between linear geometry and the curvature of spacetime. Even now science lacks a theory of everything; knowledge and expertise requires the use of different standards at different scales. In all cases total knowledge or attainment cannot be approached directly. It must be approached from multiple perspectives at once.

It is important to note that Yahweh demands the services of masonry; he demands a sanctuary in Israel known as Zion, and Isaiah describes Immanuel (the seed of David, born of a virgin) as the cornerstone of Zion which will cause all non believers to stumble and fall. This prophecy in Isaiah is the black root of Christianity. Christians are as ardently Masonic as Jews; both want to build a citadel for Yahweh from which he can rule the world. It’s not Kabbalist, it’s Judeo-Christian.

The square and compass is no more diabolical a symbol than the yin yang: both express the idea that an apparent duality constitutes an actual unity. Zionism co opts all power structures and I have little doubt that modern Freemasonry is in thrall to Zionism. But it was not always so.

This is why they are covering up and lying so much about the origin of the Virus — I have heard several MDs/Researchers state there is ZERO chance this is not man made — but Fauci and other NWO “Experts” were all involved in the development of this CVirus thru Gain Of Function research in the USA, Canada and elsewhere and then when the order was given (for appearances anyway) by Obama to close it down in the USA because it was to dangerous (seems something got out of Ft. Dietrich — all those “vaping” deaths/illnesses that appeared and then suddenly gone….) — Fauci then offshored it so it ended up in WuHan as the video explains —

I believe the true evidence would show that Fauci has a great deal of blood on his hands and that is another reason he has been pushing so many insane/worthless measures — “Social Distancing”/Lockdowns/Mask Wearing (none of which have any Scientific basis) — which tend to help cover up with hysteria what really happened….

So the case hospital admission, ICU and motrality rates are dependent upon population density? Your whole post is a logical fallacy, you stupid cunt.

Very amusing. I thought of the parallel myself, but didn’t mention it because there is only so much organized state malfeasance that one can digest at any given time.

“Who is “non-GloboCap” at this point?”

I have no idea. Iran? China? Venuzuela? I thought you were the authority.

I can’t judge the Pequeno Curso, and it really helps to get teaching that is geared to one’s starting point in one’s own language, mistakes that are typically made by, say, Portuguese speakers, etc.

That said, I have done a lot of language learning and looking for good pedagogical approaches. Since your English is obviously good I do suggest you at least take a look at some of Janey’s videos at CollegeRussian.com. For instance, her explanation of the hard vs. soft consonants in Russian is the FIRST time I have been able to grasp the point and how the system works (after three years of high-school and college Russian and looking at various online resources). In the comments many others said the same. Same goes for her intro to the alphabet, to gendered nouns, cases—all very basic but the lessons are clear and pedagogically well structured. She also has great tips and resources at her website to improve the way you study Russian.
Here is her video on the palatalized (soft) vs. nonpalatized (hard) consonants. You MUST grasp this to make any headway in Russian.

Letim cherez Beringov proliv!

why should Russia actually accept “vaccine refugees”?

Good question. Marry a Russian might be a good solution to some people (like me).

Frankly, I suspect that there will be a massive number of refugees from the USA and Western Europe in due course. These things are cyclical. The days when young Chinese and Russians were desperate to go to the USA and Australia are almost over.

To carry on with more recent history

Frater Kronos at 80+ is the most senior member of this group. He likes to be in the U.S.A. Has contributed
to the founding of a number of super-Lodges, and admits that he is a convinced neo-aristocrat, though he prefers the term demo-aristocrat. This means that a spiritually qualified, initiated, élite must guide humanity, but
that the outer forms of democracy must be preserved. Quote: “The majority of the too-many-billions of individuals inhabiting this planet, also in the West, live an animalic, anonymous and meaningless existence. It is
important that these semi-bestial creatures should be guided by sane minds and energetic hands – even if these often need to remain invisible, leaving the ‘front office’ to politicians acting as scarecrows and lightningrods. All this must happen according to very precise rules…. The historic and most serious error of the progressive Freemasons has been to consider it right and appropriate to grant freedom, equality, and brotherhood to all human beings – even to those unworthy on a moral, intellectual and spiritual level.”

Seems Ur-Freemasons are involved in directing global affairs big time. Just by reading the above one can figure whom the quoted person is.There are many well known names involved in this “club” that is divided by different factions. Quite interesting.

https://www.lochmann-verlag.com/massoni_chapters_1_to_9.pdf

Ä lot of antivaxxer freaks here.
And I thought this was science friendly website lol

Covid-19 also wiped out the flu. It’s virtually disappeared. Can we give the Nobel peace prize to a virus? I’ll vote for that.

Giving the Prize to Covid would be in line with many of the other Nobel winners- you know, like Obama (who bombed the hell out of a half dozen countries and allowed Hillary to destroy Libya) and henry Kissinger (who got us out of Vietnam after napalming and murdering millions), Woodrow Wilson (who ran on keeping us out of WW1 ), Menachem Begin (notable terrorist Irgun member and destroyer of Palestinians) Al Gore (Inventor of the internet and savior of humanity from global warming)

Thanks for the tip on that approach to Russian.
When a person is learning a language it can be very frustrating; not only is one learning a language but one is also stuck trying to figure out How to Learn a language as a adult.

I was delighted to find I had retained the basics of French last year. I have now mastered most of the difficult sounds of French- 3 r sounds just for example. I have benefitted from having studied it for 6 years in school (poorly taught) and having heard it growing up. I’m halfway through Hindi, a bit of a tough one for English speakers, but I love the way thoughts are expressed in the language. It really has a great deal of ‘heart’ as a language.
This brings me to my main point. Learning a language as an adult can be a tough deal so I believe coming to appreciate, even love the target language is important. If I can truly take delight in Hindi, then reading Premchand in parallel text is an adventure not a dreaded chore. I have found that reading is a very powerful way to learn once the intermediate level approaches and I wish I had figured this out a decade ago. Russian is on my wish list and I thank you for being pointed towards a good resource.
Regards

Ha ha.

We can at least demand that Time magazine crown the coronavirus the Man of the Year . . .

Excuse me, Person of the Year.

Excuse me again. Make that Nongendered Thing of the Year.

There are 41 actual Medical Studies on CVirus and Masks — all 41 of them basically state that Masks are USELESS and that they can in fact cause infection — just because CNN and the Gates bought off Medical “Experts” seeking to create hysteria push something doesn’t mean the “Science” is behind it — do some actual research maybe?

All science is true science? When science does not make sense, then perhaps extraordinary evidence is needed. Perhaps you are in possession of it ?

I can attest to the Pimsleur Method which I am currently using to brush up on my Russian. I had Russian in high school and college. You may still want to consider taking a class or two to get through the basics. Learning from a qualified native speaker definitely helps.

Couldn’t find a link to your Pequeno Curso de Lingua Russa. so impossible to judge. Depends on the credentials of the author, but I would suspect that it is okay.

The video Russian course Skeptikal recommends looks good also.

“Not only a miracle vaccine for Covid but also for cancer, heart disease and even old age. Nobody seems to die of these ailments any more.”

Nor from that other great killer of yestermonth…’Islamoterrorism’. A remarkable track record for such a benign virus.

Not just that, but who’s got it anyway?

Well qualified Kiwi good looker explains uses and abuses of PCR testing…
She’s all class…compared with their bought “PM”, the NZ Melbourne Cup filly entry…

Why Are Covid-19 Cases Soaring In NZ? PCR Test Update 🕵

Covid-19: Who Fact-Checks the Fact-Checkers?

and
Dr. Mullis on the PCR tests he invented
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hae2ha-uMtk&feature=youtu.be

It’s a lot easier just to come here and get a Russian tutor. Cheap and they’ll appreciate the dosh. Can hire one online too, of course. Also, however well-prepared you think you are by a book or YouTube video, you’ll flub in real life because you won’t understand replies. Thing to keep in mind is that in everyday interactions, Russians use as few words as possible. Single words will often suffice.

But even if you directly attribute every single one of these deaths to the vaccines they still remain statistically irrelevant.

To expand on this: Hopkins’ examples cite a total of 90 deaths–out of more than 200 million people who’ve been vaccinated so far. That’s less than one death for every 2 million vaccinations. For comparison, around 1 person in every 7000 (worldwide) dies every day from all causes.

To be clear, I’m not trying to claim the vaccine is safe. I don’t intend to take it until it’s mandatory–and I mean jail-time-if-you-don’t mandatory. There are plenty of good reasons to avoid it; it’s just that Hopkins’ laundry list isn’t one of them.

Tadeo:

I suggest that you read in full Dr. Michael Osterholm’s CIDRAPpodcast of June 2, 2020, on the wearing of masks. He mentions specifically how lame the CDC’s guidance and documentation of their recommendations was. He pointed out that most of the documentation had nothing to do with a virus. One of the articles documented was a meta-study undertaken at the behest of the CDC, because the latter wanted to change its mask wearing policy.

“Special Episode: Masks and Science”

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/podcasts-webinars/special-ep-masks

He states categorically that no positive effect of mask wearing has been established, also for surgeons undertaking surgical interventions.

I infer that Osterholm came under pressure from the WHO and the CDC, as he later recommended mask wearing *when ordered to do so*.

This does not change what he actually said on June 2, and the science hasn’t changed since then.

The whole mask wearing thing is political. That is why the constant changes of direction.
It is like the Politburo working out its policy on, say, playing jazz in public or wearing one’s hair longer than mandated by socialist thinking: thaw, freeze, thaw, freeze, ad infinitum.

“All science is true science?”

Of course all science is true science. That is obviously trivially true, by definition. Science is knowledge, so something that is untrue is not science. Something that is untrue, but believed, is anti-science.

Homeopathy, acupuncture, and chiropractic are examples of anti-science; they sound sciencey but are not scientific.

Edited to ‘correct’ the spelling of sciencey.

“Homeopathy, acupuncture, and chiropractic are examples of anti-science”

Incorrect…these work very well as my relatives can attest. They were scientific
long before big pharma and its chemical quackery arrived and will still be here
long after big pharma is discredited….

Finnish guy sit too long on lower bench in sauna. Splinter in butt is like vaccination. Next sauna should have bench made of asp. Gets not too hot like oak and does not splinter.

For centuries physicians and others observed the world, did some of their own “experiments” to figure out how things worked, and devised treatments based on correlations between therapeutic actions and cures.

There were virtually no RCTs, yet many cures were achieved, even though practitioners lacked the technology to establish exactly why they worked.

I would say that most of the vast body of medical knowledge that humans possess, about their own bodies and those of animals, was accrued in this way over centuries. Just as humans managed to develop edible plants from the plants they observed growing in their environment without the benefits of “gene science.” Indeed, modern science has been to a large extent a process of stealing this knowledge and putting it under lock and key and charging admission to the majority of humanity.

Sure, RCTs and blind studies etc. reveal many more details. But to throw out any useful medical treatments that have been shown to work and where the evidence of efficacy is correlations between treatment and cure is plain stupid, and ahistorical.

“attest” has nothing to do with science. Goodbye Mr ‘No recent commenting history.’.

Impressive thread documenting 145 cases of nursing homes with covid outbreaks in Spain after vaccination
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1347570926674702339?refresh=1614574208

82 page pdf documenting press notices of all manner of covid vaccine events around the world. Descriptions of each event are in Spanish but many of the articles they link to are in English
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YsAkMXkdEpTZTj9Pb28EKPr2fy2Rxgiw/view

Congratulations. Now can you leave us, who don’t want nor ever asked for this stupid “vaccine”, in peace? And stop lockdowns and masks and other useless measures. Thanks.

Of course all science is true science. That is obviously trivially true, by definition. Science is knowledge, so something that is untrue is not science. Something that is untrue, but believed, is anti-science.

You really are a “cement head”, or should I say a blockhead. Science is a process, functioning by constantly changing hypotheses, that may or may not work until a better one is found out. For a long time scientists believed that stomach ulcers were caused by “stress”, until someone discovered it was a bacteria. Maybe later they will find another better explanation. Lots of scientific explanations, even today, are really just hypothesis not completely confirmed (until some other better explanation comes along).

Also, I wouldn’t know about homeopathy, but acupuncture seems to work for some types of pain. I don’t know the process, but there are studies about it.

Whät’s wrong with being än äntiväxxer? Why should people be forced to be injected with päthogens änd other noxious substänces such as thimerosäl, if they don’t wänt it?

Whät’s wrong with free choice?

Unfortunately, I can’t leave just yet. Also, as much as I sympathize with Russia, I’m not sure it’s the right destination for me. There seems to be a real chance Matteo Salvini will become the next prime minister of Italy. I believe that unlike Boris Johnson and even Donald Trump, he is the real deal, a bona fide nationalist, and that he would lead Italy to independence from Zioglobohomo. Under such circumstances, the old homeland would look mighty attractive, especially since I’m eligible for citizenship.

Usually those who are against vaccines are very religious people though and their thinking is not very rational. Vaccines on the other hand have stopped many diseases and saved milluons lifes.

You’re completely misinformed.
First, most so-called anti-vaxxers are not religious at all.
And most of them are liberal.
Vaccines have pros and cons. I won’t do the research for you, but google SV-40 maybe.
And stop watching so much TV, it’s not good for you.

Thank you very much for your kind and helpful reply. I checked out Janey’s website and watched the video you recommended. She’s indeed an effective teacher and, it doesn’t hurt to say, rather easy on the eye. In addition, she’s got her head in the right place. What she wrote in her website about Владимир Владимирович shows she’s not a “typical American”.

Thank you very much for your helpful reply. What I did was to download something called “Russian Language Learning Pack”. It contains dozens of e-books for those learning Russian, including some for non-English speakers, such as the one I mentioned, as well as books meant for native Russian speakers, which can be used by advanced learners. I’m going through it and picking out the ones I find most helpful. I seem to have a bit of a knack for the language because more than one Russian has said my accent is very good, and they seemed to mean it. However, I plan to get an online tutor in order to practice conversation and move toward fluency. I was going to start a Russian language MeetUp group where I live—I even had a name picked out, Druzhba—but then the accursed “pandemic” came along.

This sort of hidden hand government has run its course, and is faulty due to infiltration by psychopathic type individuals; our (((friends))) come to mind.

For example, in China if something goes awry, there can be no mutual finger pointing and blame shifting like in the West. Everybody knows Xi Jinping is the man, and fingers will point in his direction.

What is even worse, is that the hidden-hand puppeteering, in addition to being subverted by psychopaths, gets its funding with usury.

The hidden hand also has to gas-light the population rather than just telling the straight truth. The end result is clown world.

For example, to honorably reduce population, you install population controls, e.g. China. The Chinese people are just told straight up… stop making babies.

The West instead will poison the population or use war, or possibly use vaccine vectors to induce sterility.

Democracy is a canard, where consent is manufactured, often using scare tactics.

Sounds great.
Esp if you are eligible for citizenship.
Of course any EU citizenship means one could live in Italy.
Unless there comes Italexit, or whatever they are calling it.
Italian is easier to learn than Russian, that’s for sure.

Yep, Russia is cold, not much for beaches. And one can visit.
It is the political situation that brings Russia to the fore.

Ray, perhaps is none of my business to advise you, but I spent 4 months in Italy (my country of birth) last year, and now it is really close to the bottom of my choices. I see no hope there. The current unelected PM, Draghi, was the main player in the destruction of the Italian economy in 1992. He will further loot the economy and install draconian vaccine laws. If I have to go live in Europe I will probably go to Hungary, where I can legally obtain a residence permit (you will too, as soon as you get an italian passport). If I were forced to live in Italy, I would go to a very rural area where a community exists and some room for negotiation and independence exists. It would need to be in an area easily defended from urban gangs (both distance and difficulty of access).

Also, “total immunity” is bullshit. The vaccine doesn’t give you “total immunity”. Actually, it is not clear if it gives you any immunity at all!

You must me a retard, a paid Pfizer agent, or a troll. Wake up, retardo. They’re trying to kill you, or turn you into a human GMO.

A paid Pfizer agent wouldn’t claim total immunity. The company itself doesn’t claim its vaccine will prevent you from getting the virus or spreading it to others. It’s official documentation lists known side effects such as acute facial paralysis that occured in trials. It’s politicians and the correct-think media complex who’ve suggested it will protect you. They are shilling shamelessly for big pharma.

To expand on this: Hopkins’ examples cite a total of 90 deaths–out of more than 200 million people who’ve been vaccinated so far. That’s less than one death for every 2 million vaccinations. For comparison, around 1 person in every 7000 (worldwide) dies every day from all causes.

According to Pfizer you have a 1/1,000 to 1/10,000 chance of getting acute facial paralysis from their vaccine. That was based on their trials where 4 out of about 20,000 got it. One of them wasn’t until 48 days after their second dose. One was 37 days after the first dose. Seeing as these weren’t immediate allergic reactions to the jab this points to some serious long term danger for millions of people.

I was going to warn Ray against living in Italy, and especially against pinning his hopes on Salvini – whose career is probably over – but didn’t want to crush anyone’s dream. But yea, Italy is a toilet full of foreigners and a dying people, not worth the sunsets or history. In addition to it being a day-long hassle to accomplish any task more complex than eating, it is ground zero for coronamania, which is not going away.

Russia has significant problems and I don’t hesitate to say it sucks, but it is a much better choice, as the Balkans would be, at this point – the same dysfunction as Italy, but orders of magnitude cheaper, with much friendlier people and without all the neuroses of western Europe.

People will say Russia’s economy is about as big as Italy’s, but a big chunk of the latter’s GDP is in grossly overpriced luxury goods. It’s just overpriced decadence.

According to Pfizer you have a 1/1,000 to 1/10,000 chance of getting acute facial paralysis from their vaccine.

Like I said (in the post you quoted part of), there are good reasons to avoid the vaccine. That’s one of them. Thanks for citing it; I can quote it to my friend who keeps pestering me to get vaccinated.

It looks like you tried Italy before settling in Russia, Marshall. Which trajectory did you take? I am looking for ideas…

A really long one. If it weren’t “these COVID times”, I’d have a wealth of suggestions – mostly worthless now. Even if I had more money, I would probably just stay put in better circumstances, as Russian authorities seem to be done with the charade. Belarus is on a knife’s edge, so that’s out too. Everyplace else is stuck in some degree of coronamania, I believe irretrievably.

If you have a source of income, I’ll table Albania as a fair gamble, even with the curfew and masking. It’s extremely cheap, Albanians are a friendly bunch, the language is penetrable if you understand Indo-European morphology, and Tirana looks all right. It is in the pocket of Shlomo, as Dinh recently saw, but who isn’t.

I can’t recommend anything else in good conscience. I’m sure there are farther-flung options if you’re unencumbered, but I can’t speak from experience about them.

Like I said (in the post you quoted part of), there are good reasons to avoid the vaccine. That’s one of them. Thanks for citing it; I can quote it to my friend who keeps pestering me to get vaccinated.

Your friend doesn’t understand that even according to Pfizer only 0.88% of people got covid during the trial vs 0.04% for the vaccinated lot. Sure that’s some improvement but over 10% of the vaccinated lot had side effects that could be considered flu or covid like. Plus a smaller number got more serious side effects. Not a very good risk reward ratio.

This may also apply to many plutocrats including the “tech geniuses”. They seem to be “dropped into” their roles. Gordon Duff at veteranstoday.com wrote on the subject recently.

How can you make an informed choice? In some places, legalese says you should not be allergic to any of the contents of the vaccine, including PEG. How are you supposed to know that?

As for the deaths, there are few excess deaths compared to the preceding 5 years; see ourworldindata.org. Some countries show spikes in April 2020 and Jan 2021, the latter associated with mass vaccination.

https://unlimitedhangout.com/2021/02/investigative-reports/schwab-family-values/

Janey also has a nice video with good tips for those teaching themselves Russian (or any other language):

She obviously walked her talk, because her Russian seems to be good. A Russian friend who looked at one of her videos said that her accent is excellent.

She is obviously a very smart cookie.

I second what she says about learning through writing. Remember the very old days when pupils had “copybooks”?

I am just writing 10 times or more items that I am trying to drill into my head, and I think it is helping a bit. And, it is kind of zen-like, sort of like coloring a mandala, so good lockdown activity . . .

Medical Doctor Exposes Mass Eugenics Extermination Called ‘Covid-19 Vaccine’

https://www.banned.video/watch?id=60428ea73282f82eeac060b0

I pretty much agree with you. For me to seriously consider moving to Italy, there would essentially have to be a revolution. I’m hopeful that one will happen, but I’m not counting on it.

Your views are sensible, but I would consider the high likelihood of major changes coming in the next few years. Liberal democracy is even less sustainable than Soviet communism, including in economic terms. The “pandemic” has demonstrated how utterly inept and irrational the leadership inevitably produced by a liberal democracy is. Liberal democracy will face its downfall, including in the country that gave birth to it, the US. Entrenching coronomania and banning fossil fuels will each be enough to cause economic collapse, and doing both simultaneously will only hasten the inevitable. The question is if it will be replaced by a revitalized White civilization or rule by the alien interlopers.

‘Liberal democracy’ is a ludicrous label to hide the truth of predatory and parasitic oligarch rule under capitalist tyranny. Plus ceaseless foreign aggression, to facilitate eternal Western hegemony. No ‘liberal democracy’ is even marginally ‘democratic’. The mass brainwashing to achieve popular consent to this Big Lie is a wonder to behold.

Several of my relatives got the two-step jab. One of them had a “mild” stroke two weeks later and is now in a rehab facility. I’m not sure of the cause and effect, but the female members can’t entertain the very idea. In fact, they’re “encouraging” a/k/a badgering me to get it. I’ve been agnostic/apolitical on the vax issue, biding my time until–if–the jabs are safe. I might prefer to get the more “traditional” vax provided by the Russians, but a trip to Moscow would be most problematic for most of us.

Even louder LOLs!

So is the vaccine for shingles. The first dose made my arm hurt for a week. The second, received about four months later, gave me flu-like symptoms and a bad headache the next day.

When I told my doctor about it, her reaction was a nonchalant “Oh, yeah, about 50 percent of our patients say they had that kind of side effect.”

I am going nowhere near any kind of COVID vaccine.

Before you make such sweeping mischaracterizations, consider that most Americans have to be vaccinated against certain illnesses as children before they are permitted to enroll in school: diptheria, pertussis and German measles. And as I recall, these had to be repeated in the first grade.

I was just a young child when the polio vaccine became available and I and everyone in my family got it.

I happen to get a flu shot every year; I especially thought it necessary when I had to use public transportation on a regular basis.

I am not against certain vaccines. I am against people like Bill and Melinda Gates, people with no medical training whatsoever, trying every which way to Sunday to coerce the entirety of the population into taking an unproven, and to my mind, dangerous, experimental treatment so they can acquire even more money and to satisfy their sick desire for power.

LOL = particularly appropriate reaction to Sean Collier, who wrote that propaganda piece for Pittsburgh Mag — his other job is doing stand-up comedy.

reasonable guess writing for Pittsburgh Mag + stand up comedy desert in Wolfe-lockdown PA pushes one to write whatever the check signer tells you to write.