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It was always going to come to this … mobs of hysterical, hate-drunk brownshirts hunting down people not wearing masks and trying to get them fired from their jobs, “no mask, no service” signs outside stores, security staff stopping the mask-less from entering, paranoid pod people pointing and shrieking at the sight of mask-less shoppers in their midst, goon squads viciously attacking and arresting them …

Welcome to the Brave New Normal.

And it isn’t just the Maskenpflicht-Sturmabteilung. The new official narrative is omnipresent. The corporate media are pumping out hysteria about “Covid-19 hospitalizations” (i.e., anyone admitted to a hospital for anything who tested positive for the coronavirus) and “major incidents” (i.e., people at the beach). Police are manning makeshift social-distancing-monitoring watchtowers in London. There are propaganda posters and billboards everywhere, repeating the same neo-Goebbelsian slogans, reinforcing the manufactured mass hysteria. Dissent and nonconformity are being pathologized, “diagnosed” as psychopathy and paranoia. Mandatory vaccinations are coming.

You didn’t think they were kidding, did you, when they started introducing the Brave New Normal official narrative back in March? They told us, clearly, what was coming. They told us life was going to change … forever. They locked us down inside our homes. They ordered churches and synagogues closed. They ordered the police to abuse and arrest us if we violated their arbitrary orders. They closed the schools, parks, beaches, restaurants, cafés, theaters, clubs, anywhere that people gather. They ripped children out of their mother’s arms, beat and arrested other mothers for the crime of “wearing their masks improperly,” dragged mask-less passengers off of public buses, gratuitously beat and arrested people for not “social-distancing” on the sidewalk, shackled people with ankle monitors, and intimidated everyone with robots and drones. They outlawed protests, then hunted down people attending them and harassed them at their homes. They started tracking everyone’s contacts and movements. They drafted new “emergency” laws to allow them to forcibly quarantine people. They did this openly. They publicized it. It’s not like they were hiding anything.

No, they told us exactly what was coming, and advised us to shut up and follow orders. Tragically, most people have done just that. In the space of four months, GloboCap has successfully imposed totalitarianism — pathologized totalitarianism — on societies all across the world. It isn’t traditional totalitarianism, with a dictator and a one-party system, and so on. It is subtler and more insidious than that. But it is totalitarianism nonetheless.

GloboCap could not have achieved this without the approval (or at least the acquiescence) of the vast majority of the masses. The coronavirus mass hysteria was a masterstroke of propaganda, but propaganda isn’t everything. No one is really fooled by propaganda, or not for long, in any event. As Gilles Deleuze and Félix Guattari noted in the opening of Anti-Oedipus:

“The masses were not innocent dupes. At a certain point, under a certain set of conditions, they wanted fascism, and it is this perversion of the desire of the masses that needs to be accounted for.”

I am not going to try to account for the “perversion of the desire of the masses” here in this essay, but I do want to dig into the new pathologized totalitarianism a little bit.

Now, I’m going to assume that you understand that the official “apocalyptic pandemic” narrative is predicated on propaganda, wild speculation, and mass hysteria, and that by now you are aware that we are dealing with a virus that causes mild to moderate symptoms (or absolutely no symptoms at all) in 95% of those infected, and that over 99.5% survive … thus, clearly, no cause for widespread panic or justification for the totalitarian “emergency measures” that have been imposed. I am also going to assume that you watched as GloboCap switched off the “deadly pandemic” to accommodate the BLM protests, then switched it back on as soon as they subsided, and that you noted how their propaganda shifted to “cases” when the death count finally became a little too embarrassing to continue to hype.

So, I won’t waste your time debunking the hysteria. Let’s talk pathologized totalitarianism.

The genius of pathologized totalitarianism is like that old joke about the Devil … his greatest trick was convincing us that he doesn’t exist. Pathologized totalitarianism appears to emanate from nowhere, and everywhere, simultaneously; thus, technically, it does not exist. It cannot exist, because no one is responsible for it, because everyone is. Mass hysteria is its lifeblood. It feeds on existential fear. “Science” is its rallying cry. Not actual science, not provable facts, but “Science” as a kind of deity whose Name is invoked to silence heretics, or to ease the discomfort of the cognitive dissonance that results from desperately trying to believe the absurdities of the official narrative.

The other genius of it (from a GloboCap viewpoint) is that it is inexhaustible, endlessly recyclable. Unlike other official enemies, the “deadly virus” could be any virus, any pathogen whatsoever. All they have to do from now on is “discover” some “novel” micro-organism that is highly contagious (or that mimics some other micro-organism that we already have), and wave it in front of people’s faces. Then they can crank up the Fear Machine, and start projecting hundreds of millions of deaths if everyone doesn’t do exactly as they’re told. They can run this schtick … well, pretty much forever, anytime the working classes get restless, or an unauthorized president gets elected, or just for the sheer sadistic fun of it.

Look, I don’t mean to be depressing, but seriously, spend an hour on the Internet, or talk to one of your hysterical friends that wants to make mask-wearing mandatory, permanently. This is the mentality of the Brave New Normal … irrationally paranoid and authoritarian. So, no, the future isn’t looking very bright for anyone not prepared to behave as if the world were one big infectious disease ward.

I’ve interacted with a number of extremely paranoid corona-totalitarians recently (just as a kind of social experiment). They behave exactly like members of a cult. When challenged with facts and basic logic, first, they flood you with media propaganda and hysterical speculation from “medical experts.” Then, after you debunk that nonsense, they attempt to emotionally manipulate you by sharing their heartbreaking personal accounts of the people their therapists’ brother-in-laws’ doctors had to helplessly watch as they “died in agony” when their lungs and hearts mysteriously exploded. Then, after you don’t bite down on that, they start hysterically shrieking paranoia at you (“JUST WAIT UNTIL THEY INTUBATE YOU!” … “KEEP YOUR SPITTLE AWAY FROM ME!”) and barking orders and slogans at you (“JUST WEAR THE GODDAMN MASK, YOU BABY!” … “NO SHOES, NO SHIRT, NO MASK, NO SERVICE!”)

Which … OK, that would be kind of funny (or terribly sad), if these paranoid people were not just mouthpieces echoing the voice of the official power (i.e., GloboCap) that is transforming what is left of society into a paranoid, pathologized, totalitarian nightmare right before our eyes. They’re kind of like the “woman in red” in The Matrix. When you are talking to them, you’re not talking to them. You’re talking to the agents. You’re talking to the machines. Try it sometime. You’ll see what I mean. It’s like talking to a single algorithm that is running in millions of people’s brains.

I can’t lie to you. I’m not very hopeful. No one who understands the attraction (i.e., the seduction) of totalitarianism is. Much as we may not like to admit it, it is exhilarating, and liberating, being part of the mob, surrendering the burden of personal autonomy and individual responsibility, fusing with a fanatical “movement” that is ushering in a new “reality” backed by the sheer brute force of the state … or the transnational global capitalist empire.

It is irresistible, that attraction, to most of us. The chance to be a part of something like that, and to unleash one’s hatred on those who refuse to go along with the new religion … to publicly ridicule them, to humiliate them, to segregate them from normal society, to hunt them down and get them fired from their jobs, to cheer as police abuse and arrest them, to diagnose them as “abnormal” and “inferior,” these social deviants, these subhuman “others,” who dare to challenge the authority of the Party, or the Church, or the State, or the Reich, or Science.

Plus, in the eyes of GloboCap (and its millions of fanatical, slogan-chanting followers), such non-mask-wearing deviants are dangerous. They are like a disease … an infestation. A sickness in the social body. If they refuse to conform, they will have to be dealt with, quarantined, or something like that.

Or they can just surrender to the Brave New Normal, and stop acting like babies, and wear a goddamn mask.

After all, it’s just a harmless piece of cloth.

_United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, courtesy of Oesterreichische Nationalbibliothek
_United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, courtesy of Oesterreichische Nationalbibliothek

C. J. Hopkins is an award-winning American playwright, novelist and political satirist based in Berlin. His plays are published by Bloomsbury Publishing and Broadway Play Publishing, Inc. His dystopian novel, Zone 23, is published by Snoggsworthy, Swaine & Cormorant. Volume I of his Consent Factory Essays is published by Consent Factory Publishing, a wholly-owned subsidiary of Amalgamated Content, Inc. He can be reached at cjhopkins.com or consentfactory.org.

 
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  1. SteveK9 says:

    You have captured perfectly my fear of the cult of the mask. To date, I have not worn a mask for a single minute (I am a Scientist), but it gets harder every day, even though the epidemic, such as it was, is ending. A visit to the grocery store is a very depressing chore. The beach is a refuge, I hope it lasts … last visit maybe 40,000 people … no masks.

    • Agree: Realist
    • Replies: @TTSSYF
    , @DrWatson
  2. Ah yes, the ever present 6 kagillion narrative has to be included.
    https://www.thoughtco.com/history-of-the-yellow-star-1779682

    While I appreciate the article overall, sometimes less is more.

  3. A bit premature, methinks, CJ.

    • Replies: @R.C.
    , @VinnyVette
  4. @Curmudgeon

    Ah yes, the ever present 6 kagillion narrative has to be included

    There are very few people of import left – let alone webzines – willing to tell the truth about Holohoax.

    Fortunately, Unz is among those very few, even if some contributors will not follow his lead.

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
    , @Jett Rucker
  5. People who don’t wear masks are assholes and deserve everything they get.

    Ask Talib about masks. He is smarter than either you or this guy.

    https://medium.com/incerto/the-masks-masquerade-7de897b517b7

  6. SafeNow says:

    “Anticipatory anxiety” is a mental state that is different from fear, and from general anxiety. Psychiatrists and psychologists with a special interest in this anticipatory mechanism have called the human brain “an anticipation machine.” It has a literature. This mechanism has been strongly at work during recent months, and yet, very little has been written or explained about it by medical experts who know what they are talking about. Psychiatrists do not opine on epidemiology or pulmonology, and yet the reverse has been commonplace.

    • Replies: @Emslander
  7. You got it completely backwards. It’s the truculently maskless Trumpites deluging the grocery stores, standing close to people, bringing their super-spreader screaming brats along, and threatening anybody who challenges them with bodily harm. You know nothing.

  8. Bradley says:
    @obwandiyag

    The author you reference and presumably you yourself are assuming a pandemic to which masks could arguably be relevant. You participate in the collective delusion and therefore argue from within it. The masking is a ritual of acceptance into a new world that is all. Refusal is refusing this new world.

    • Agree: Richard B
  9. R.C. says:
    @restless94110

    Premature? Tell it to the one out of probably over one hundred souls who was savvy and brave enough to video the nazis at his door, as noted in the article: https://twitter.com/OffGuardian0/status/1261969228908957696
    R.C.

    • Replies: @restless94110
  10. @Quasi the Man

    I agree. I don’t know if the photo was the author’s idea, but the photo conjures up all of the “evil Nazi” narrative, much of which has no basis in fact.

  11. @obwandiyag

    deluging the grocery stores, standing close to people, bringing their super-spreader screaming brats along,

    You mean like every previous Christmas “season” and Thanksgiving “season” for the last 70 years, including during the polio epidemic?

    • Agree: Charles
    • Thanks: Stan d Mute, Stan d Mute
  12. @R.C.

    What are on about? Why would you video someone at your door? You would shoot someone at your door. Video? Are you nutz/

  13. lloyd says: • Website
    @Curmudgeon

    If you take “the piece of cloth” at its face value, it is a good analogy. All inmates in German concentration camps were required to wear the piece of cloth. Jews also outside the camps. These “enemies of the State” were the displaced former elites. In 1939, on the eve of war, everyone in London was required to wear a gas mask. in New Zealand, no one except a few Asians wears masks now. Community transmision has gone. Each day, several cases diagnosed as Covid-19 turn up at the immigration borders. The global MSM fails to make the distinction.. Perhaps they don’t want more people desperate to go to live in New Zealand. We are keeping our fingers crossed.

    • Replies: @gaston julia
  14. Yeah, people “survive” the virus.

    And suffer from permanent internal organ damage forevermore. Some survival.

    • Troll: botazefa
  15. The virus mostly kills old people. Many, many old people. Hopkins wants old people to die. And he thinks it’s funny.

  16. Felix Morley explained it (in a slightly different context) in “Freedom and Federalism” (on p113 of the 1959 version).

    people who have no individual stature whatever are willing to accept this poisonous nonsense because it gives them a sense of importance without the trouble of any personal effort

    .

    A speech attributed to Sophie Scholl also strikes the right note, although the attribution to Scholl is almost certainly a fabrication (like so many famous quotes).

    The real damage is done by those millions who want to “survive.” The honest men who just want to be left in peace. Those who don’t want their little lives disturbed by anything bigger than themselves. Those with no sides and no causes. Those who won’t take measure of their own strength, for fear of antagonizing their own weakness. Those who don’t like to make waves — or enemies. Those for whom freedom, honor, truth, and principles are only literature. Those who live small, mate small, die small.

  17. @obwandiyag

    Maskers and social distancers are the wrong-headed ones. The sooner a majority of the population has caught this, the sooner it’ll be over.

  18. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:

    What are we supposed to learn from the H-caust
    Museum’s pic of the overfed, not dead, 5 babes?

    Sidetrip:

    Has anybody seen Bill or Melinda wearing masks?
    Are their places in line for vaccines being held by hired help?
    Who will give the vaccines? Who will certify the vaccines?

    Since we are on masks:

    Research shows the most effective mask against phantasms
    is a pro model, seawater filled, dive mask with snorkel.
    Top of snorkel filled with cotton.

    Adding air tanks with full wet suit can’t hurt.

    • LOL: Tom
  19. Anonymous[295] • Disclaimer says:

    Ahhh. Britsh Empire…Pump it up, Loot the World
    Smash the pinata, steal the candy( tech.) run to New York and build another Empire. Pump Loot Smash
    Dump steal the candy( technology) and run to China
    and lets go MCGA( Rah!) Pump up the Empire funnel
    the technology and right when they start to ask for a share in the spoils use the technology to Smash ( poison) your host. loot the continents
    and Run to the new fertile ground with the new Pinata- Artificial Inteligence….the new base of operations the Axiom of Anthropology:Evolutionary
    Potential leave the primative machines with the bewildered Nationalists seduced by a few burgers and fries and foist the next technological imperative on the world ….newer WMD smarter and pump up the new Image of World Empire ( hey they fall for it every time!!) the Indispensible Nation…..The Aryan Race ahhhh…
    back home after a long global Yatra( pilgrimage)to Bharat…..The real Indians rather then the substitute ones….The Sasoons return again and the Great War
    shall again take place on the Kurukshetra….the clash of the Titans and yes they do not ask our permission
    to deploy the Great New Evil Fat Man and Little Boy
    seem like bow and arrow compared to our next rendezvous with our genius technocrats their hand are shaking The Strange-Love Dr. is standing at the door. standing in the clothes that you once wore..the floor too is moving under you..and it’s all over now baby blue…..

  20. Oh good gracious, all this terrible oppression disguised as a piece of cloth, and now BLM too! What’s a real American to do?

    Just to keep the record straight, it was Pope Innocent III who first mandated the use of the yellow star as a badge to identify Jews, in 1215 at the Fourth Lateran Council. German National Socialism’s fundamentally Christian orientation is one of the inconvenient truths of the last century. Even the Zionist Federation of Germany (the largest Jewish group in the country) in a memorandum to the new government dated June 21, 1933 characterized Hitler’s revolution as “the rebirth of the national life of a people, which is now occurring in Germany through the emphasis on its Christian and national character.”

    • Troll: Anonymousse
  21. haha says:
    @obwandiyag

    Look, mankind has always lived as part of nature, viruses and bacteria included. We have survived, just as we shall survive the Coronavirus outbreak. Pandemics come and go, but we have to hold on to common sense, acceptance of nature, illness and death. Do you think you will live for ever inside a hazmat suit?

    • Replies: @Marshall Lentini
  22. Jake says:

    Another masterpiece by CJ Hopkins.

  23. Realist says:
    @obwandiyag

    People who don’t wear masks are assholes and deserve everything they get.

    People who wear masks are assholes and are incapable of thinking for themselves.

    FIFY

  24. Realist says:

    It was always going to come to this … mobs of hysterical, hate-drunk brownshirts hunting down people not wearing masks and trying to get them fired from their jobs, “no mask, no service” signs outside stores, security staff stopping the mask-less from entering, paranoid pod people pointing and shrieking at the sight of mask-less shoppers in their midst, goon squads viciously attacking and arresting them …

    This country is overwhelmed with idiots.

  25. The entire EU is promulgating denial as an effective measure against SARS-2-nCoV-19 when they are in the midst of yet another wave of infection. Sigmund Freud was the first in history to systematize human psychological defense mechanisms with the first form being denial as that is, and always will be a universal truism in the face of psychological doubt & conflict over what is right or wrong about any particular incident.

    Empirically, there is no getting around the fact that SARS-2-nCoV-19 is indeed a Gain-of-Function Dual Use Pandemic Pathogen that was manufactured in a Biosecurity Level Four laboratory for purposes of offensive biowarfare.

    Attempting to overtly hyperpathologise whole sectors of the global population via method of Propaganda without so much as looking at the potential for SARS-2-nCoV-19 to be man made BSL-4 grown human pathology in a petri dish is to miss the point of evidenced based science as leading indicator of where the world should be on this issue.

    The author is promulgating propaganda at a cost to life itself.

    Please see http://www.cambridgeworkinggroup.org/ and read the Publications part of the website.

    RW

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
    , @Poco
  26. onebornfree says: • Website

    Any article that pisses of the worthless Marxist asshole piece of shit obwandiyag [or any other useless idiot, government adoring piece of shit -for brains here] is alright by me 😂. Keep em coming, C.J.

    Lockdown the government, permanently, NOW!

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  27. What an excellent column, C.J.!

    In your long list of indignities and forced de-Socialization of people, you missed one: People dying in the hospital, whether the couple of percent FROM or WITH the Kung Flu or the rest, have no family members and even no preachers there to help them with their scary exit from this world. The hospital chains have the nurses, techs, and even the (dumber of the) doctors scared to see people. Due to the whole made up Infotainment Panic-fest, they have stopped visitors from seeing any patients, not just those who have the Corona virus.

    It is fucking egregious.

    • Agree: Stan d Mute
  28. No one who understands the attraction (i.e., the seduction) of totalitarianism is. Much as we may not like to admit it, it is exhilarating, and liberating, being part of the mob, surrendering the burden of personal autonomy and individual responsibility, fusing with a fanatical “movement” that is ushering in a new “reality” backed by the sheer brute force of the state … or the transnational global capitalist empire.

    Actually, it’s kind of exhilarating to not give a damn, walk the wrong way down the grocery aisles, not wear the mask, and hawk a big loogie onto the sticker on the pavement outside the store (documented, OK, not the loogie specifically, in Peak Stupidity – see this post.

    It’s getting tougher, mind you, to act like a normal person. I went to pay for gas with cash (5 cents/G cheaper than credit) inside the tiny store area, and the ladies gave me grief through the 1″ thick plexiglas (made for worse things than COVID-one-niner germies). “You’ve got to wear the mask.” “Just give me my change, and I’ll pump the gas.” “Yeah, the masks are required by law.” “Whatever, I can leave after you give me the change. Don’t get any germs on it.” “Don’t worry, I’m not coming back until this crap stops.” (Of course, they don’t give a dang. Unemployment gets you over 3 grand a month.)

  29. Cowboy says:

    You’re throwing bb’s by these people CJ. You’ve exposed their religion and they still keep mumbling about science obtuse to their propitiation to their idols which is different than the aquiesense problem where there may be some hope or at least it feels like there might be a sufficient undercurrent of hostility to the draconian tactics and hype but it’s still early and soon we will be divided between the mask party and the nekkids.

    • Replies: @Gleimhart Mantooso
  30. Mask or no mask or (from the 60s fashion scene) mini-skirt or no mini-skirt or (from the 20s) flapper or no flapper or (from the pioneer days) wearing at hat or not wearing a hat or (from the 1800s) wearing a wig or not wearing a wig….you see where I’m going with this? Seems like wearing a mask is more of a fashion statement than anything else, and a place where folks feel they must conform. Remember in the 60s young men felt they had to grow their hair long to conform to Beatle-mania or something? And I”ve seen some pretty damned fashionable masks!

    In other words, it’s not about saving grandma or being thoughtful or saving lives or “droplets” or “obeying the law”…it’s about conformity! Don’t have stats on this, but very very very few people (esp. young folks who are just making their way into the world finding themselves) can handle non-conformity! Very few! I thank God every day, for the most part, that I’ve spent most of my life as a non-conformist for the most part.

    A good analogy to what CJ is saying–watch the Twilight Zone episode from the early 60s called “Obsolete Man.” One of my faves, where “the mob” wants death for an old man (played by Burgess Meredith) who won’t worship the State, being called “obsolete.” Then his persecutor visits him to bring him to his death, which doesn’t work, and then “the mob” “deals” with this dude, “cancel culturing” him if you know what I mean.

    And it isn’t just leftists, folks. Remember after 9-11 anyone who wasn’t anti-Muslim or pro-war was (sort of) cancel-cultured as well? Example: the country western music scene literally destroyed the Dixie Chicks (I met them once buying honey) because they refused to support the War in Iraq? And the way the neo-cons blast anyone who doesn’t bow to Israel? Same with Christian Zionists…they completely ignore the plight of Palestinian Christians!!!

    So, who will survive in the “new normal” USA? NON-CONFORMISTS! The rest will beat each other or themselves up until… get the idea? And Who said “Do not conform to this world?”
    Jesus Christ, that’s WHO! Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!

    • Replies: @gsjackson
  31. @Achmed E. Newman

    See earlier comment. And not only am I a non-conformist, but also an introvert…I can handle social distancing better than most, plus I live in the rural remote…ten square miles per person….in other words, I socially distance because I want to…and when I don’t want to, I don’t. Period, end of story.

    No “mobs” out here…too many mountain lions and bears….and those shooting devices if you know what I mean. Bwahahahahahahahahahahah!

  32. Black Dog says:

    This race towards totalitarianism started way before Corona virus. In Britain, at least. Identity politics, pseudo bipartisan political parties, even “lifestyle” marketing, which pretends to sell individuality, but by definition, can’t. All of these contributed to the current headlong race towards totalitarian government. Add to this the increasing role middle class people demand government must take in people’s lives. Childcare, hate speech policing, multiculturalism and its enforcement, affirmative action and the baleful influence of the media, particularly the BBC. It’s been coming for a long time. Current virtue signalling appears to be announcing one’s obedience towards the BBC’s latest hysteria. BLM and every grudge the BBC can dredge up. It’s relentless, but most people are seduced by any idea that makes thinking obsolete.

    • Agree: VinnyVette
    • Replies: @dfordoom
    , @Alfred
  33. @restless94110

    A bit out of touch with reality are we?

  34. @obwandiyag

    People who wear masks are, abject morons and neurotic nut cases. They don’t work against viruses which are many microns too small. they work against bacteria. But hey don’t let me confuse you with facts… Jackass!

    • Replies: @animalogic
    , @TheTrumanShow
  35. @Achmed E. Newman

    Do what I do brother… Tell them to fuck off and take your business elsewhere.

  36. @Achmed E. Newman

    The ones I see behind plexiglas usually aren’t wearing masks, or have them hanging around the neck. If I get a hassle about the mask, I ask why they aren’t wearing theirs, and see if the cognitive dissonance registers. When hassled about cash, I point out it is touched by fewer hands than the credit card machine and ask why they want to kill me. Actually, in my corner of Europe, I am rarely hassled about using cash. In Britain they’ve started to go full-blown psycho about cash, as the Netherlands had before Corona-chan.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    , @Polemos
  37. @The Alarmist

    I had no idea you were a European, Mr. Alarmist. I take back everything I said …

    To tell you the truth, I couldn’t even see through all the plexiglas, cigarette cartons, and lotto tickets whether those 2 were wearing masks. Yes, I give them shit back too. Thank you for that. A TSA guy at the airport was touching everyone’s driver’s license with the same rubber gloves. Oh, that does a world of freakin’ good! (Then again, at a restaurant there, in which the one lady left working had to keep changing her gloves, it took a half hour to get the food!)

    Is this why the young people like that anime? That was funny, but, uhhh, yeah, we just had Playboy to look at.

  38. Polemos says:
    @The Alarmist

    Cash, being a porous fabric, degrades a coronavirus faster than plastic. This is from an earlier article that’s heavily cited:

    SARS-CoV-2 was more stable on plastic and stainless steel than on copper and cardboard, and viable virus was detected up to 72 hours after application to these surfaces (Figure 1A), although the virus titer was greatly reduced (from 10^3.7 to 10^0.6 TCID50 per milliliter of medium after 72 hours on plastic and from 10^3.7 to 10^0.6 TCID50 per milliliter after 48 hours on stainless steel). The stability kinetics of SARS-CoV-1 were similar (from 10^3.4 to 10^0.7 TCID50 per milliliter after 72 hours on plastic and from 10^3.6 to 10^0.6 TCID50 per milliliter after 48 hours on stainless steel). On copper, no viable SARS-CoV-2 was measured after 4 hours and no viable SARS-CoV-1 was measured after 8 hours. On cardboard, no viable SARS-CoV-2 was measured after 24 hours and no viable SARS-CoV-1 was measured after 8 hours (Figure 1A).

    Both viruses had an exponential decay in virus titer across all experimental conditions, as indicated by a linear decrease in the log10TCID50 per liter of air or milliliter of medium over time (Figure 1B). The half-lives of SARS-CoV-2 and SARS-CoV-1 were similar in aerosols, with median estimates of approximately 1.1 to 1.2 hours and 95% credible intervals of 0.64 to 2.64 for SARS-CoV-2 and 0.78 to 2.43 for SARS-CoV-1 (Figure 1C, and Table S1 in the Supplementary Appendix). The half-lives of the two viruses were also similar on copper. On cardboard, the half-life of SARS-CoV-2 was longer than that of SARS-CoV-1. The longest viability of both viruses was on stainless steel and plastic; the estimated median half-life of SARS-CoV-2 was approximately 5.6 hours on stainless steel and 6.8 hours on plastic (Figure 1C).

    van Doremalen N Bushmaker T Morris DH et al. “Aerosol and surface stability of SARS-CoV-2 as compared with SARS-CoV-1.” N Engl J Med. 2020; (published online March 17.) DOI:10.1056/NEJMc2004973

    Of course, you could just wash either surface with soap and water to inactivate the virus.

    • Thanks: The Alarmist
    • Replies: @David riskanalyst
  39. @obwandiyag

    Thanks for the tip about Talib. He’s now on my ignore list.

  40. David says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    If you use an average of 4 gallons of gas a day, you’re saving $73 over the course of a year. You have to get that cash somewhere, which requires a little time, and you have to walk to, and to wait at the register. And you probably don’t top off, but put in a flat amount, which means you have to gas up more frequently. Use a debit card.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  41. gsjackson says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    “Unemployment gets you over 3 grand a month.”

    The federal contribution to unemployment insurance of $600/week is scheduled to disappear at the end of July. Assuming it does, that’s when we may really see SHTF, though erstwhile employed people may not be quite as prone to rioting as the chronically unemployed.

    CJ — best piece I’ve read yet on this insanity. It’s all the scarier to think that, as you imply, on some level the masses want this. Face-to-face interaction had been all but eradicated anyway in favor of interaction with screens. Americans were already covering up as much of their faces as possible with baseball caps pulled down over their eyes, big bushy beards, sun glasses often worn when not needed, in some cases, facial tatoos. Hormones and sex drives had been all screwed up by the toxic food supply, so no problem with eradicating the birds and bees. And now, as you say, no longer any need to make decisions and take responsibility for their lives. Just follow directions.

    Dumbed down, drugged up and now demoralized, all to a faretheewell, Americans are the ideal population to try out new methods of subjugation on.

    • Replies: @NickGrinager
  42. gsjackson says:
    @omegabooks

    Well, the nonconformists are certainly going to be healthier. Those poor people made to wear masks all day are going into oxygen deficit and carbon dioxide overload every day. I can’t think of a better formula for creating cancer than adding a diminished supply of oxygen each day to all the stresses people are dealing with now, with all of the normal outlets of relaxation removed.

    I asked the grocery store clerk this morning how she and her colleagues, who have had to wear the stinking things for almost four months, have been making out health-wise. Lots of accounts of headaches and dizziness. I suspect those are just preliminary symptoms.

    I mean, has this ever been done before — working all day every day with impaired breathing? Doctors and nurses wear masks in surgical theaters to prevent bacteria transmission (not viruses, which are too small to block), but that’s typically only a day or two each week. The schools here will be requiring all teachers and students to wear either the face diapers or plastic shields. Can you imagine trying to teach through one of those things? Absolute insanity.

    • Agree: mark green
  43. @David

    I’ve got plenty of cash on hand, David. Just get a bunch out at time. You are right about the time wasted, but I normally don’t waste any time in a line. (Most of the other people are paying at the pump – it’s only those suckers playing the lotto that hold me up.)

    I do top off or pretty close, as I know within 1/2 gallon how much the car(s) will take. I do the math in my head on the way inside.

    I really don’t save any kind of $73 yearly, as I don’t burn even close to 4 G/day. Your point then is understated. It’s the principle of the thing. Oh, well, yeah, debit cards … hmmm, then I have no excuse to by my boy (and me) some junk food!

    ‘Preciate the advice though.

  44. @gsjackson

    Absolute insanity.

    No shit, it is. Though I agree with OmegaBooks (thanks too, Vinny) and appreciate these truthful rants very much, you have a additional great point here too. There’s no way this can be good for people. What about people who have cardio-pulmonary problems to begin with? They can’t the full amount of O2 into their lungs to exercise them and the heart. WTF?! I’m no doctor, but I just see a lot of problems.

    In my work, there are people that must be understood as they direct others. They’ve pretty much gotta take the masks off to do this, or things are more dangerous. Peak Stupidity has an anecdote in The Kung Flu stupidity continues … and I hope you all read Ron Paul’s take on this 2nd Season of Stupidity, as we discussed in Back to COVID Klampdown?

    Thank you all for helping this non-conformist to know he’s not alone in this … like I give a rat’s ass.

    • Replies: @Biff
  45. anonymous[119] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Just learned about these two guys, Dale Bredesen
    https://grandrounds.ifm.org/21st-century-medicine-and-the

    and Mark Hyman and Cleveland Clinic’s Institute for Functional Medicine.
    https://grandrounds.ifm.org/21st-century-medicine-and-the

    Just after listening to Bredesen & Hyman talk about the shift from the “what” to the “why” of understanding and curing disease, an email arrived from my medical insurance provider admonishing me to “wear a mask,” and helpfully including a video on its proper installation.

    A freak situation gave me a small window into what is going on in hospitals and medical centers during this scandemic. Hospitals were shut down; surgeons were reduced to answering emails; oncologists taped their doors shut and did not see patients. Medical facilities and office buildings were empty shells guarded by the precursors of BLM, reveling in their roles as prison wardens. The medical profession has been undermined, perhaps for many long years: the notion of physician-as-healer has been replaced by a system whereby amortizing expensive technology is the first consideration of “diagnosis.”

    Groundbreaking medical THINKING such as Bredesen and Hyman have been developing will be pushed to a back-burner; lives that their insights could have improved will fall victim to “wear a mask.”

    This has to be medical malpractice on a vast scale.

    Fauci
    Birx
    Redfield
    all the “experts” who said chloroquine + zinc is useless, but wearing a mask is essential — they should be strung up by their ears.

  46. @Robert White

    Well if a certain Austrian nature conservationist and animal lover had conquered the world we wouldn’t now have to worry about all these experiments to transfer animal viruses to man, would we? All attempting to do so would have been sent to concentration camps … for re-education … or termination. Not saying here that I agree with all of the Austrian gentleman’s policies but this one I sure do.

  47. @Achmed E. Newman

    They are taking it too far. I agree with a lot of your critique but nevertheless it doesn’t imply that deadly pandemics have ceased to bother us or that appropriate preventive measures shouldn’t be taken. Quarantining those afflicted with communicable diseases was widely practiced in the past, even for non-deadly ones such as rubella. Maybe it isn’t such a bad idea for quarantine to make a comeback – as long as it’s truly warranted. And of course they will use this to extend their control and pass other measures that are in line with the general plans of TPTB. We have all got access to the same information now so everyone can make up their own mind how to proceed. The measures are certainly an inconvenience but getting a positive result would inconvenience you even more.

    Even the Spanish flu was just the flu but luckily it disappeared after a couple of years. But will this covid-19 flu disappear or will it be with us forever, or until a vaccine … and then some other soon after so they can keep up the pressure on the populace and the programme running? It’s hard to tell what’s going, but those that can profit from it or use it to further their aims, they will do so.

    • Replies: @animalogic
    , @Pft
  48. @VinnyVette

    Right — viruses are too small for masks to catch. But viruses aren’t blown out on their own, they are blown out via much larger Co2 aerosol droplets. Masks may, or may not, protect the wearer, or more likely those near the wearer.

  49. @Commentator Mike

    “They are taking it too far. I agree with a lot of your critique but nevertheless it doesn’t imply that deadly pandemics have ceased to bother us or that appropriate preventive measures shouldn’t be taken. Quarantining those afflicted with communicable diseases was widely practiced in the past,[ie the London black plague, 1665] even for non-deadly ones such as rubella. ”
    Thanks for the common sense.
    Its a matter of finding a balance between nothing & everything. Unless you actually deny the existence of the virus (ie the greatest conspiracy ever, bar none) then something needs be done. What that is needs be determined by environment (big difference between NY & a rural area).
    If you believe 130,000 Americans have died from the virus, then you may be concerned (yes, the younger you are the better your chances — but its still a chance).
    Some people may relish totalitarianism — some may just be scared — & why not ? the amount of contradictory, incomplete information, opinions, statistics etc is insanity inducing. The most obvious example — masks: views on masks have gone through a 1000 variations, many completely inconsistent with each other.
    “Novel” corona virus: 20/20 hindsight is a wonderful thing.

    • Replies: @Franz
  50. I’ve been doing free speech performance art in my front yard since 2014 and have well over a thousand photos and videos to document it. I made a decision to express myself in real life rather than anonymously on the internet. This was done just a few blocks from UNM in the city which is the real Home of the Bomb and my past career was working on analyzing the potential consequences of nuclear accidents. I was also born jewish though I’m no longer eligible for an Israeli passport because I’ve renounced and denounced it as the greatest evil imaginable that is so powerful almost nobody dares to mention it.

    In the hope that more people will dare to challenge the evildoers which now rule America I plan on blogging here at Unz about the evil of Judaism and how Jesus spoke literal truth in the Book of John when he called it the Synagogue of Satan and called them the children of the father of lies.

    This is my frontyard art from a month ago:

    sunlight is the best disinfectant

    Maybe there is intelligent life in Albuquerque after all. A statue of Jeffrey Epstein appeared downtown here and it was removed.
    https://www.kob.com/albuquerque-news/statue-of-jeffrey-epstein-mysteriously-appears-in-albuquerque/5778652/

    I wrote this and posted a variant of it on the bulletin board of the globo-homo church down the street from me where I received the gift of Christian baptism:

    [MORE]

    Truth-Telling as a Personal Religion

    My path to truth began in early childhood and it’s been a constant ever since. There’s two kinds of people in the world: those who speak only truth, and everyone else. My favorite historian (Harry Elmer Barnes), at the end of his life, he wrote that maybe only one out a million people are able to live such a life in this world.

    Truth-telling became my personal religion after being raised Jewish with four years in an Orthodox Jewish yeshiva. I was 11 years old when Israel launched the Six-Day War and I can remember all the schoolmates, teachers, and rabbis celebrating the quick victory over their neighbors on all three sides in a story straight out of the bible. I can remember feeling that war is a terrible evil and I told my entire family that I would not be going to make Aliyah in Israel unless they make peace with the Palestinians.

    Hillel Academy was Orthodox and I was just one of over three hundred students from a Reform family. From third to sixth grade I was alone there because of my family’s religious difference. I learned about Judaism from its experts until sixth grade when a teacher from Israel who was in military intelligence instructed “Reform Jews come from Rome.” After making sure a classmate would back my story, that was my ticket out of there. After Hillel I had nothing to do with Judaism or synagogues or anything at all yiddishkeit. Just be truthful in everything became my own private atheistic religion. I thought it was mine alone, not realizing that I was walking in the footsteps of my father who had done the exact same.

    There’s an old saying from somewhere that the man who never lies has no friends. It’s true. Jesus had no friends and no peers. Truth is a very painful thing for normal people. And I’ve never been normal.

    I remember the blue van that drove me to Hillel in Perth Amboy. The goy driver smelled of tobacco and he had no chin. I can remember always looking at his neck and wondering to myself why it seemed his face went straight down to his neck. And the van’s nameplate on the front grille said International.

    But the main thing I can remember running through my mind as the scenery went by every school day driving to and fro was a philosophical puzzle. I was obsessed with a thought experiment about two very different kinds of hypothetical people. One was a person who always told the truth and would never lie. The other was a person who would never tell the truth and everything they said would be false. I was looking at them from the outside trying to distinguish between the truth-teller and the lie-teller. I must have pondered that for over two years trying to come up with a strategy or set of questions allowing me to distinguish between the truth-teller and the liar. Fifty years later I’ve yet to come up with an answer. There can be no objective tests for total liars. So how could I be so certain in knowing the difference?

    The Bible is full of stories about people different from their crowd who bring truth and justice to this world. At age 11 and 12 in Hillel Academy I decided that I would be a person who would never lie.

    In the world in which I grew up there were people known as witches or mediums. People with some kind of innate sensitivity. Ever since early childhood whenever I hear someone lying my body reacts with revulsion. This was before I had read Carl Jung about intuition versus sensation, and thinking versus feeling. I felt very strongly that Orthodox Judaism was evil and almost everything they would say to me was a lie. This was just after the Second Vatican Council renounced the idea that Jews were sinners in need of redemption by conversion. We had the new dogma of Judeo-Christian ecumenicism and after 1900 years of Christianity telling their flock Jews were all sinners and were responsible for killing Christ all of that was shoved aside and disregarded. But it was a one-way street. Christians were told they must now love the Jews but the Jews didn’t change their views of goyim, who were still the sub-human creatures here only to serve them, and no more worthy of their respect than insects or cattle.

    I had no inkling that my criticisms of Judaism had been made by Jesus in the New Testament, mainly in John, Matthew, and Acts. Speaking such ideas in the EU can be a multi-year felony. The old lèse-majesté, which means disrespecting rulers or accepted dogma, has been relabeled as “hate speech.”

    My father knew about the Kol Nidre prayer of Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement and its sanctification of deception and deceit. He died before I realized how strongly he had rebelled against the indoctrination of his religious upbringing in an Orthodox household. I’ve only come to make sense of him very recently. He was a mechanical engineer who designed hydraulic presses for metal-forming and he was the number one guy in the world for retro-fitting old machinery and selling and installing these resurrected machines that could rival a brand-new one. And he did this even in the hinterlands of India and China, far from the comforts of home. He was recycling machines bigger than a house, cobbling them out of worthless scrap he could remember seeing somewhere decades ago, and he’d buy the pieces and work his own magical acts of recreation. Turning scrap metal into working machines.

    Besides creative genius, what set him apart was unvarnished honesty. He defied the stereotype of salesmen who lie to make the sale. He could be counted on to be honest and that made him successful. Whatever he promised he’d do his absolute best to deliver. But he had no real friends in life. Not a one.

    And then I came along as the eldest son who endured four years of yeshiva and all of its indoctrination into racial supremacism over the goyim and its institutionalization of trickery and wanton sinnery and debauchery only to totally reject it and to have nothing to do with synagogues ever thereafter. I became just like my father in defining myself as a person who never lies. Like my dad, honesty served me well in striving to find and tell the truth about nuclear accident risks. Where everyone else had a Ph.D. I was managing million-dollar projects, doing hiring and firing, with just a lowly B.S. in math from UNM.

    I retired from this society demoralized and emotionally wrecked because I came to see it’s all evil. When 9/11 happened the world was mesmerized with the spectacle and again I was alone. Almost nobody saw as I did that we’d been attacked by a foreign power, our ostensible ally and best friend. The New World Order then came to us by way of a silent coup when we were attacked by our most beloved ally who caused the death of 3000 Americans and the guilty celebrate their hoax every Purim while the US still wages the longest war in our history, but the vast majority of the public is totally clueless.

    Twenty countries would put me in prison for stating simple historical facts. There are thousands of political prisoners of conscience whose only crime is speaking truth but you won’t ever hear their names mentioned much less recognized as heroic figures. The US stands alone in having strong protection of free expression but it’s worthless unless exercised. Making signs stating my provocative opinions is the least I can do to support Ursula Haverbeck, the Schaefer siblings, and over 2000 others.

    Many people think that they’d be favorably disposed to truth if it could be shown to them, but all they’ve ever known is lies. Lying is everywhere and always, and so most people feel that there’s no advantage to honesty because they wouldn’t be believed, because they know that everyone always lies.

    It ain’t necessarily so. There are people in this world who do live a life guided by truth. If you want to live with more truth in your life, make a conscious choice to be more honest both others and to yourself. The more I came to live in a way guided by truth the more sensitive I became to knowing the difference. By making an effort to be speaking truth you could do the same.

    It’s like a muscle that gets stronger with exercise. You can come to trust your intuition after you find it can be your trusted guide. You can come to recognize others who are doing the same. Lying becomes normalized when people see it everywhere in our age of connected media. But truth can come to those who live truthfully. Lies breed lies. Break the cycle. Read books by truth-tellers and become educated.

    If you want to talk about what it means to live life as a truth-teller come to Text Study on Wednesday and hopefully afterwards we can have a small group conversation starting around noon in the parlor. Bring your thoughts and any questions you might have. May peace be with you.

    KOB 4 gave me my three minutes of fame, and you can see it here: https://web.archive.org/web/20180118192347/https://www.kob.com/albuquerque-news/provocative-signs-spotted-at-home-near-unm/4748054/

    • Thanks: Buck Ransom
    • Replies: @Culpepper
    , @Stonehands
  51. Panty masks are ritual public humiliation right out of Chairman Mao’s playbook.
    Organisms from a lab where scientists wear space suits laugh at a face tampon.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  52. anon[402] • Disclaimer says:

    People refusing to wear masks are antisocial scum. Gassing those libertards would probably go too far though, imo it would be better to send them to Gulag-style labour camps for reformation through hard labour.

  53. Charles says:
    @obwandiyag

    I believe “ob” is trolling us for fun. He has to be b/c no one could really think all Covid patients suffer permanent “organ damage”. At any rate – if it is satire – well done.

  54. Amon says:

    Okay so the mask equals the david star jews were mandated to wear in Nazi Germany… Wow, someone really went off the reservation here.

  55. Richard B says:

    As Gilles Deleuze and Félix Guattari noted in the opening of Anti-Oedipus:

    “The masses were not innocent dupes. At a certain point, under a certain set of conditions, they wanted fascism, and it is this perversion of the desire of the masses that needs to be accounted for.”

    Of course they called it “fascism.” They’re not going to call it communism.

    Same with CJH. Of course.

  56. Just tell them either one of two things, that you are sorry that they have contacted the Corruption Virus, and realize how difficult coping with the Corruption Virus must be for them, or tell them that you are sorry for their obviously debilitating mental illness of an extreme form of Mysophobia, and denial is always a symptom of insanity, but either way, the individuals that are lashing out at people for being sane, and refusing to buy into the Spider Eggs in Bubble Yum type manufactured hysteria, clearly are not equipped to function in society, and have made it their goal to prevent everyone else from functioning in society as well, and that is the evil part of it all.

  57. Icy Blast says:
    @obwandiyag

    Are you actually Dikembe Motumbo?

  58. Richard B says:
    @Curmudgeon

    While I appreciate the article overall, sometimes less is more.

    A lot less in this case.

    CJH is a cornball.

    His writing is so predictable, cliche and, above all, boring.

    He writes like girl.

    The way he refers to the totalitarianism as “genius”, and more than once, is a good example.

    Talk about hyperbole.

    What the hostile elite are doing can be redued to one word – force.

    A force that is brutal, stupid and arrogant.

    The last thing it is is “genius.”

    And the best it’ll ever manage is a Pyrrhic Victory.

    • Replies: @Dave Bowman
  59. @anon

    I used to like those WWI masks and had a collection once. I wish I still had one as I’d raise a few laughs going about in one, but they’d be effective against even single virions seeing they filter gas molecules.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    , @Fox
  60. Icy Blast says:

    This particular Hopkins cannot be taken seriously.

  61. Biff says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    in Back to COVID Klampdown?

    Sucks to be you…

  62. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Black Dog

    This race towards totalitarianism started way before Corona virus.

    Yep. It’s been building for a long time.

    I think there are two major causes. The first was the advent of 24-hour cable news. The second, much more recent and much worse, has been the rise of social media. Both these things create an atmosphere of never-ending crisis and paranoia.

    I also don’t believe there’s an actual sinister conspiracy behind this. The two factors mentioned above have simply created a population more prone than ever before to mass hysteria.

    Of course there have been other factors but I still think that 24-hour cable news and social media have done the greatest damage.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @anti_barabas_ite
  63. Richard B says:
    @obwandiyag

    Ask Talib about masks. He is smarter than either you or this guy.

    Appeal to Authority Fail.

    https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Appeal-to-Authority

    Talib seems hell bent on ruining a hard-earned, well-deserved reputation.

    But ruining it he is.

    Not the first, though, and won’t be the last.

    • Replies: @Polemos
  64. Culpepper says:
    @David riskanalyst

    Do people from a Christian backgrounds need to be told that truth is the thing?

  65. Pft says:

    Good article. Unfortunately the majority are too dumb or brainwashed to realize this is pretty much just a new cold virus that was probably around most of last year. What caused the excess deaths were the COVID treatment protocols (respirators and lack of steroids were a deadly combination), denial of hospital care for those in nursing homes with other serious diseases, and those in lockdowns who were cut off from standard care and surgery (including cancer treatments) or who feared going to ER upon heart or stroke symptoms, not to mention number manipulations by instructing hospitals and medical examiners to count COVID as a cause of death regardless of any test result or lack thereof based on a presumption the patient had COVID, and even if COVID was not the cause of death. As an incentive to go along hospitals get to charge 20% more and receive a bigger share of the 175 billion in bail outs.

    This was a coordinated act of war against the people, using terror as a weapon, so as to force a financial, social and political reset that will promote more wealth inequality, remove whats left of freedom and independence, and return us to a feudal system where the bottom 90% are serfs who will be robotized to follow orders and not question anything or have their digital stipends for a minimal standard of living cut off.

    But the majority don’t even see it. Maybe they will when the herd begins to be culled because depopulation is part of the program, but probably not even then until they are pulled from their home using Barrs Precrime program and contact tracers, saying you are antifa or COVID infected, never to be seen again.

  66. Pft says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Quarantines in the past were for sick people. Never before have we quarantined the healthy. Thats just nuts.

    • Agree: Commentator Mike
  67. Alvin says:

    I’ve gotten in a few arguments lately with some rabid feminist types about Covid and I’m armed with the facts. You start seeing the fear in their eyes and they immediately start pulling up their masks further above their noses and back up quickly and leave. One store manager did the same and when I said “where are you going”, she turned around and said “I’ll have you thrown out the store” while walking away.

  68. Quinsat says:
    @obwandiyag

    First part of your assertion wrong, second right.

    We non-mask wearers are not assholes but we do deserve what we get: the inhalation of sufficient amounts of essential oxygen and the exhalation of deleterious gaseous and solid waste.

  69. @VinnyVette

    Even if masks did work in this case, masks, like auto seatbelts & cycle helmets, are <> for self-protection and haven’t a damn thing to do with protecting others.

  70. good lord people divorce from yourselves the 1) information warfare campaign and 2) the pandemic; just because the establishment is a pack of lying craven materialist hyenas doesnt mean there aint no pandemic.

    ffs this is like the FIFTH major coronavirus from asia since globalization became A Thing; we should thank our lucky stars we havent had mega-AIDS or the superflu yet just through raw biogenic concentration

    wear a face mask in poorly ventilated public places you GOD DAMNED BARBARIANS or you are FUCKING with CIVILIZATION just like they is

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  71. utu says:

    You realize, Mr. Hopkins that if 85% of us were wearing masks from the very beginning of the epidemic the epidemic would be over by now. You realize that countries like New Zealand or Taiwan that successfully eradicated virus within their borders now can assert their sovereignty by control of border that was not possible before the epidemic in the climate of leftists propaganda and sentiments of the borderless pro immigration world. Unfortunately the right which seemed to be so concerned about the immigration and the borders when presented by the opportunity that covid-19 gave them to assert a strict border control is on the same side where the left was before the epidemic: nobody is illegal whether infected or not, right? So what actually are you advocating Mr. Hopkins? Why are you advocating the libertarian cause in its most primitive recalcitrant American version? Why are you pandering to the slowest common denominator idiots? Any thinking person knows that libertarians are the useful idiots of oligarchy. And why there is so much demagoguery in your piece? Bringing up Nazis and Holocaust? Have you lost your mind? You have no shame?

    • Replies: @anon
  72. @Cowboy

    You’ve exposed their religion and they still keep mumbling about science obtuse to their propitiation to their idols which is different than the aquiesense problem where there may be some hope or at least it feels like there might be a sufficient undercurrent of hostility to the draconian tactics and hype but it’s still early and soon we will be divided between the mask party and the nekkids.

    What a remarkable sentence.

  73. Fucking retards.

    It is just a fucking mask.

    Put it the fuck on, it would hide your inbred, ugly as fuck, retarded faces. A huge plus.

    And it will help stop the spread of covid too.

    What fucking more can one ask for of such an affective, cheap n simple tool?

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
    , @Leo
  74. Wielgus says:
    @Curmudgeon

    Are you denying that the Third Reich and its clients made certain categories wear discriminatory badges?
    Nor was the Star of David unique – Polish workers in Germany were required to wear a lozenge-shaped badge with the letter P, while “Eastern workers” wore one with the word OST.

  75. Nuncle says:

    The use of the word ‘brownshirts’ here is extremely ignorant. The brownshirts, i.e. men of the S.A., were formed to defend meetings of the N.S.D.A.P. from attacks from communists and socialists. These brave men, heroes who took part in the noble fight against leftwing terror, had absolutely nothing in common with the government stooges enforcing COVID-19 orders today.

    • Agree: Emslander
  76. @Curmudgeon

    Some does have a basis in fact. But the historic norm is huge exaggeration of the facts.

    • Replies: @Ann Nonny Mouse
  77. theMann says:

    The documentation showing that wearing masks not only doesn’t help, it is dangerously counter-productive, is overwhelming. TPTB know this perfectly well, as does any rational person on the planet.

    The purpose of compelling masks is twofold:

    1. To erase your identity as a human being. You were a man, now you are a meatbot. A visible sign of identity erasure to mindless robot conformity.
    2. To deliberately worsen your health. Re-inhale infectious particles and carbon dioxide, worsening health and IQ both.

    I go out of my way to tell every meatbot, well, not to their face, since they don’t have one any more, but to their ear holes, that I know where they live:

    The intersection of sniveling coward and low grade moron.

    Make sure you let the meatbots know that you know WHERE THEY LIVE. Today, tomorrow, forever. Try it on for size – every time a meatbot addresses you through a mask, reply “eat shit and die, you sniveling meatbot coward.” It truly is liberating.

  78. @David riskanalyst

    Thanks. Food for thought on a sad, still, former holiday.

  79. Alfred says:
    @obwandiyag

    Ask Talib about masks. He is smarter than either you or this guy

    What happened to Taleb’s “Fat Tail” – got swallowed by reality? 🙂

  80. Babbo says:

    Disclaimer = low quality Hitler

  81. Alfred says:
    @Black Dog

    baleful influence of the media, particularly the BBC.

    The BBC is still going on about Russia allegedly shooting down MH-17. Firstly, the Russians say that it was shot down by Ukrainian fighters. Secondly, the BUK missile that allegedly shot down the plane has a part number that belongs to Ukraine. At the fake trial, the judge is refusing to accept evidence from Russia including radar data. The Ukrainians “lost” all their radar data. The Americans refuse to provide their satellite data.

    During the body scan of the First Officer’s body, over 120 objects (mostly metal fragments) were detected. The majority of the fragments were found in left side of the upper torso.

    Here is a photo of what the plane looks like with the panel near the pilot showing clear signs of a cannon fusillade. The pilot had “120 metal fragments” on his left side. Of course, they won’t say fragments of what. None of the passengers had any metal fragments. You can make up your own minds after seeing the reconstruction below. All I can say is that the fighter pilot was an excellent shot. He must have come really close.

    The Coronahoax is a perfect cover for not reporting properly on this fake trial in the Netherlands.

    • Replies: @Fred777
  82. Miro23 says:

    I can’t lie to you. I’m not very hopeful. No one who understands the attraction (i.e., the seduction) of totalitarianism is. Much as we may not like to admit it, it is exhilarating, and liberating, being part of the mob, surrendering the burden of personal autonomy and individual responsibility, fusing with a fanatical “movement” that is ushering in a new “reality” backed by the sheer brute force of the state … or the transnational global capitalist empire.

    No doubt it was very exhilarating being part of the Bolshevik mob burning down churches and murdering traditionalists (sorry.. ushering in a new reality) in revolutionary Spain 1936 – while the feeble socialist government looked the other way.

    However, it was probably just as exhilarating and liberating being part of Franco’s counter revolutionary movement, surrendering the burden of personal autonomy and individual responsibility while shooting and blowing up the Bolsheviks wherever they found them.

  83. dfordoom says: • Website

    “The masses were not innocent dupes. At a certain point, under a certain set of conditions, they wanted fascism, and it is this perversion of the desire of the masses that needs to be accounted for.”

    I think it’s possible that, given the opportunity, most people would like to impose their own political and social views on the rest of society. And when I say most people I definitely include the far right.

    The last couple of centuries in the West has been a bit of an historical aberration, a period in which no one group has been strong enough to impose its political and social views on everyone else. But the historical norm is rigid social conformity.

    In other words, totalitarianism naturally appeals to most people.

    • Replies: @onebornfree
  84. Franz says:
    @animalogic

    If you believe 130,000 Americans have died from the virus, then you may be concerned (yes, the younger you are the better your chances — but its still a chance).

    Local to me, more young people are getting it. At least currently. But not dying.

    What I was told 6 weeks ago still obtains:

    If you do not have diabetes;
    If you do not have heart trouble;
    If your lungs are okay (no COPD, no emphysema);
    If your immune system is OK,

    …You’re safe at any age.

    A local kid, not yet thirty, dropped dead last week and I was suspicious. I know people that work the hospital, one’s related to the wife. The kid who died was about 300 pounds and severely diabetic.

    That’s who’s dying.

    For the near term, more old people will continue dying at a faster rate because nature says old people die at a faster rate anyway. Some might have C-19 but most are dying of other things.

  85. “Mr. #402, Mr. #402, please pick up the white courtesy phone. Joe Stalin calling from Hell … says he could really use a guy like you, Anon #402, to be his right hand man. Bring 2 sets of kneepads.”

  86. @obwandiyag

    The worse they can get is Covid-19 which for 99.9% of people isn’t a death sentence. Ultimately, we’re all dying, so cheer the fuck up.

  87. There is a pandemics going on- in case someone didn’t notice. This has happened before in other parts of the world like in Africa and we didn’t care that much because it was far away. There was Aids. In the past the pest whipped off large parts of populations and the spanish flu killed up to 50 million people in the world. Since Antiquity cities suffered from epidemics and specialists think that many cities in early times of civilization disappeared not because of attacks by enemies, but because of epidemics which killed their population.

    All this seemed quite far away when corona came. It’s now affecting the whole world and almost everywhere there are measures to contain it. Similar measures were already used in the Middle Ages because people knew that they could be effective. When it begun now we didn’t know very much about the virus, about the consequences, about the measures to take.

    We weren’t really prepared to face such a challenge and there were many faillures even in very well organised countries. Meanwhile we made some progress because many people did their work. In Germany a pathologist investigated what had happened with people who died in order to know how the virus affects people. Locally city health departments tried to see how the disease spread in order to contain it. Many medical personal died. We are lucky that the virus isn’t as deadly as other viruses in the past. Nevertheless the consequences of it may be serious. Getting it may be a nightmare (you can read about cases in several countries), there are possible neurological late consequences even many years from now. What the virus causes in the brain, inflamation, damages, means that the brain gets older.

    Many people who never had the courage to take a stand about important things, who never cared to engage themselves in any meaningful cause are now refusing to use masks. They feel free if they can ride their motorcycle and if they can go around without using a mask. They are free riders profiteering from the efforts of many other people and endangering them potentially. They don’t even make the effort to read the long article by Whitney Webb (in this site) and thinking of reacting to what she tells.

  88. steve K. says:
    @obwandiyag

    It’s not some supposed “virus” (which still hasn’t been isolated and found to cause this disease) that’s killing many old people it’s the supposed healthcare system that is responsible for many of the deaths.

    • Replies: @Jim
    , @Felix Culpa
  89. Your essay is spot on, C.J. I love your fighting spirit, missed that during yesterday’s locked-down Fourth of July-lite. Keep ’em coming!

    But now that the brainless TV-watching lemmings are in full stampede toward their Brave New Normal, we few dissidents have to guard against backsliding. It’s just possible that I could also learn to love Bill Gates and the corporate/government virus hoax if they permanently locked down Langley, the Pentagon, Wall Street and the U.S. Congress. Then I might have to apologize to the loud-mouth conformist in the bank lobby for knocking his mask off on the first day of Stalinist virus regimentation here. No quarter.

  90. anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:

    They really hit on a genius move to implement this temporary(?) totalitarianism. Instead of the usual panic mongering that some foreign country was going to come and get us, Russians, Iraq, Iranians, terrorists, etc, it was a killer virus from outer space. Perfect, a sci-fi threat of unimaginable proportions. Millions will die, the dead will lay in the streets and be stacked up like cordwood, mass burials, and on and on. The perfect fear campaign, full-spectrum hysteria 24/7. And it worked! It’s been so depressing to se all these volunteer Stasi come out of the woodwork and act like enthusiastic agents of Big Brother. So many craven Americans skulking around acting as snitches. We don’t have Orwell’s two minutes of hate but rather with this Purple Death virus and the staged riots we now have have it all day every day. The next step is what?

  91. onebornfree says: • Website
    @anon

    “People refusing to wear masks are antisocial scum. Gassing those libertards would probably go too far though, imo it would be better to send them to Gulag-style labour camps for reformation through hard labour.”

    So stay locked in your house forever, and wear your idiot mask/face diaper 24/7 . Better yet: fuck off and die- soon!

    “Regards”, onebornfree

  92. Vincent says:
    @obwandiyag

    Old people are always susceptible to death from seasonal viruses. It is not the desire of CJ Hopkins but rather the insistence of Death and Mortality.
    Pulvis et umbra sumus
    We are dust.
    No wonder liberals can’t get their heads around Joe Biden’s non compos mentis.

  93. Bro43rd says:
    @obwandiyag

    CJ Hopkins lives in Berlin, Germany. Thus your trumpite comment is non-sensical. And we do deserve everything we get including unimpeded oxygen & immunity. You fall directly into the catagory CJ named the article, the new pathologized totalitarian. Although I will just call it as it is, chicken little syndrome combined with TDS.

  94. Hopkins just can’t get Nazi’s out of his head. Sad really.

    Comparing wearing a mask to Jews wearing a Star of Moloch. Blatant and pathetic pandering. Laughable

    Why not relate it to the most destructive modern ideology: Communism.
    It has killed over 100 million.
    Enough with ‘Hitler’ shrieking and on to truth and Yagoda, Stalin, Lenin and all the other murdering commie scum.

    Or, doesn’t that pay C.J.?
    Hack.

    Remember Spain. They successfully avoided going Commie in the 30’s, the country slowly reformed from a rigid monarchy prior to the Civil War, went traditional-fascist and then evolved into a modern democracy. I call that success.
    I challenge anyone to show me the success of a formerly Communist country transitioning to a democracy with a successful free market economy.
    Good luck. There isn’t one.

  95. Truth3 says:

    “GloboCap”

    ???

    Why not just say Jews.

    It’s half the letters, and over twice the Truth.

    • Agree: Saggy
  96. Truth3 says:

    By the way…

    The photo depicts Jewish inbred induced ugliness more than anything else.

  97. Using National Socialism as a literary device to describe the current covidiocy hysteria was a really poor choice of figurative language. Because you’ll find that this covidiocy hysteria has far more in common with the communists of old than the NSDAP. Things like lockdowns, food shortages, travel bans and restrictions, contact tracing, followed by riots, monument destruction, public struggle sessions for people accused of racisms, aboloshing the police (aka replacing the police) ring far more of bolshevism, cultural revolutions, and year zero than anything the National Socialists ever did.

    The Nazis were quite kind compared to the blood lusting Communists who fly red flags specifically to symbolize all the torrents of blood that needed to be spilled (Trotsky) in the “revolutionary holocaust” (Marx) in order to realize their communist utopia (ie an Isaihic prophecy of world peace justified by any means, hence communism). Lenin even said if he needed to exterminate 90% of Russians to realize communism he would do it.

    Could this covid hoax possible be a cover for another iteration of this genocidal doctrine of world government? Seems like it to me. And you choose some stale ill-fitting simile to convey it? Ok boomer.

    • Agree: anarchyst
  98. Fred777 says:
    @obwandiyag

    “People who don’t wear masks are assholes and deserve everything they get.”

    They get a healthy immune system. You’re right, they deserve it.

  99. Every small act of rebellion is vital now,

    I go around my neighborhood at night cutting down all the Covid signs at bus shelters, children’s playgrounds etc,

    A small act of defiance I know but its better than fuming about this nonsense and feeling helpless,

    I won’t be wearing any mask, ever,

    I get the sense from people that they are crying out for leadership on this, the minute I tell them that its all a load of “me bollix” (Irish speak for nonsense) they lap it up,

    So keep calling out the bullshit, have your info well rehearsed and don’t take a backward step,

    What will this winters normal flu virus be called?, already the media here in Ireland are starting to use the term ‘seasonal flu virus’,

    The propaganda is changing because the people just won’t be able for another lockdown,

    Key point is Fan the flames of dissent

  100. Maddaugh says:
    @obwandiyag

    You are an absolute dummy !

  101. Saggy says: • Website

    Another moronic article on Unz. The only interesting question it raises is ‘why are all the idiotic CV hoaxers in the US?’. I invite others to try to answer this question. And …. I have a theory …. we in the US are idealists, and, since 1860, for over 150 years, we have not suffered, that is, on the order of Europeans, who have suffered two horrific wars in the previous century. We, on the other hand, have been victorious in everything we did for the last 150 years. So, our idealism has led to one smashing success after another, we have been blessed, and our idealism as been reinforced to the point where we believe in our own omnipotence and inherent righteousness.

    The problem is that since WW I our idealism has been based on a complete illusion, from ‘La Démocratie Victorieuse’, E. Malynski, 1929

    ‘The nation which above all others claims to be free and in sovereign command of its own destiny was brainwashed to the hilt. In 1914 any American would have laughed to scorn the idea that in three years time he would be struggling and suffering in France for the sake of affairs which had no connection with those of his own country.

    And yet, when 1917 came, the same man enlisted enthusiastically. Every soldier whom we happened to interview and questioned as to his personal motives for fighting, invariably replied: ‘we are fighting for democracy’. They were one step ahead of their fellow soldiers from other nations, who went for their own country’s sake.

    It is only when we realize that France was invaded by hundreds of thousands of inhabitants from Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, Florida, Illinois, Wyoming, California, Louisiana, and subsequently from Ontario, Manitoba, Rhodesia and New South Wales, whose only possible motive was to hasten the triumph of democracy, that we begin to understand something of the power of Israel. The power to stir up a whole nation of solid, egotistical and utilitarian individuals, and to persuade them that their greatest privilege is to set out and get themselves killed at the uttermost ends of the earth, with no hope of gain for themselves or their children and almost without their understanding against or for whom they are fighting, or why, is a simply incredible

    And so our idealism is out of sync with reality, and this has led to massive cognitive dissonance in the minds of Americans, to the point where we can easily believe anything no matter how absurd, because our view of the world became totally detached from reality in WW II, and our core belief is in our own righteousness. Anything that appears to threaten our righteousness and omnipotence therefore must be a hoax, an evil plot, the communists, which can easily overcome by simply exposing it.

    • LOL: Anonymousse
    • Replies: @Emslander
  102. usNthem says:
    @obwandiyag

    Looks like big chief pontiac has wandered off the rez again, bottle of firewater in hand to harangue the evil maskless pale faces…

  103. @obwandiyag

    [email protected] obwandiyag…round three will take you out of your deluded misery… the fear of being dead has its grips on you.

    stop fearing the second greatest part of life…the release of your energy into the greater cosmos!

    relax moshe

  104. Fred777 says:
    @Alfred

    Looks like shrapnel from a missile hit. Definitely not 20mm or 30mm cannon, if the pilot was hit with one of those you would be lucky to find a few chunks of him left.

  105. @dfordoom

    in 20 minutes the mass jewsmedia had tim osmand aka bin laudin blowing up and footprinting three buildings…mass hysteria is a thing and jewsmedia are masters at it.

    they use it to our detriment on accident? everything is not occam razorable

    its pure evil used by demons.

  106. @anon

    After watching the behavior of liberal and conservative society, I’ll take the antisocial scum for the pleasure of socializing with.

  107. @Commentator Mike

    … seeing they filter gas molecules.

    I’m not so sure about that, C.M. The charcoal filters in there adsorb certain poison gas molecules with a huge surface area, consisting of its many tiny pores. They would let plenty of other big molecules through. I don’t know these virions would do. This is similar to a catalytic converter adsorbing only certain molecules but letting 99.whatever % of the exhaust gas on through.

    i.e. I don’t know if they’d completely filter out viral material, but they’d do a great job in your primary purpose of making fun of the stupidity out there.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  108. Yesterday was the first BLM demonstration in my hometown in Bavaria. Around 250 – 300 people participated (See my photo below) During it, a woman played and sang Amazing Grace on a piano. I thought to myself – Boy, this would be very unwoke in America – The composer of the song, John Newton, as well as his father, was a slave trader. I told this to my friends at the demonstration, and their response was – So what? It’s a great song. (How very unwoke; but their ancestors were Nazis). Later, at home, I googled Amazing Grace and BLM, just to be sure the ex-slaver’s song wasn’t being sung in America as it foolishly is in Bavaria. What do I find? The song is sung at BLM demos. People kneeling and with their hands raised in the air are singing the music of an ex slave trader.

    Okay, I understand it is very difficult to live in today’s highly politicized Empire without facing enormous numbers of social and rhetorical contradictions. But couldn’t BLM demonstration organizers have put a little more effort into learning the history of the song’s composer before appropriating his work? And will a more woke faction of BLM soon come along and righteously demand the banning of the sang and the tearing down of any Newton statues? And then denounce the singers at demonstrations as racists?
    Things are happening fast in America these days, and as religious preachers and self help books regularly tell us – Nothing is impossible.

    • Replies: @Emslander
    , @mark green
  109. jadan says:

    Please don’t wear a mask, C J Hopkins. Stay in Germany and do a little reading outside your box. Try Deadliest Enemy, Michael Osterholm. You need some fresh air. You’re going to suffocate in that enclosed room called your head.

    • Troll: Alfred
  110. I was amazed how quickly Globocap had ad campaigns going with “We’re in this together” and “The New Normal.” My first thought were advertisement agencies really considered essential? It was then I realized they duped me, and this was something far more insidious.

    C.J. Hopkins is quite correct we’re screwed.

    • Agree: Alfred, Biff
  111. @raven lunatic

    ffs this is like the FIFTH major coronavirus from asia since globalization became A Thing;…

    That’s just it though, Mr. Lunatic. Many of us have seen all of these 5 be discussed in the news and seen a few Japanese people at the hub airport (DTW was the big Northwest Airlines hub during them) wearing the masks and made fun of. It was not the top story in the news for months running, and governments didn’t close down society with force. We had some damn Perspective*, and we understand that this latest virus out of the Orient is pretty much the same-old-same-old.

    Now we have too many people lacking any reasonable perspective because, as DForDoom wrote above, they have the 24/7/365-6 Infotainment on at their houses and their pieces of fancy iCrap on them everywhere else. They look at the numbers like they are football scores (you know, there being no regular sportsball on, they are starved for the latter part of their Bread & Circuses). Well, during this re-Panic, or Season 2 of the Kung Flu Infotainment Panic-Fest, as some call it, the numbers are not so good. What I mean is deaths FROM and WITH the Kung Flu are tailing off. Therefore, we must concentrate on CASES. Forget deaths! It’s so simple. Maybe you need a refresher course. C’mon guys, it’s all CASES nowadays!

    .

    * See also Perspective vs. Hysteria.

  112. A recent study found that 92% of street protesters still live with their parents, which means their housing, food, transportation etc. is partly or wholly subsidized. So naturally their politics gravitate to systems ensuring continued subsidies.

    An office colleague has shared on several occasions that her mother regularly reminded her how worthless she was. This may or may not have actually happened, but it was real enough in her mind, and it’s incapacitated her as an adult. She’s largely helpless.

    Did this shift toward totalitarianism occur from three generations of Dept. of Education brainwashing, or did the brainwashing occur because TPTB already had a framework in place behind the scenes and the DoE was simply an additional manifestation?

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4200272/92-Berlin-left-wing-activists-live-parents.html

  113. Alfred says:

    Looks like shrapnel from a missile hit

    A missile that offloads its shrapnel in a very precise and focused direction? Amazing

    And none of the other 296 people on board having any fragments? Remarkable.

    I did not know that missiles designed in the 1970’s were so clever. 🙂

    A Buk missile that did not leave a trail that should have been visible on that sunny day from 30km? A magical propellant? Or no one was looking that way on that day?

    And why not analyze these “120 fragments” and tell people where they came from? Too difficult?

    How about all the witnesses on the ground who reported that the plane was followed by two Ukrainian fighter jets? The BBC broadcast their interview of witnesses but they quickly deleted it. Witnesses were not invited to the “trial”

    You are welcome to believe what the Ukrainian government and the West wants you to believe. But I prefer my common sense.

  114. glib says:

    This comment thread can not be complete without mentioning that the next, much worse escalation is already happening

    https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/michigan-passes-controversial-bill-microchip-humans-voluntarily-protect-their-privacy

  115. The author overstates the case in that the overwhelming of ICUs where it spikes is a real phenom and he kind of dusts right over that.
    That said, he leaves unstated that COVID spreads – just like a coronavirus – which is to say: just like the cold. Every cold spreads this way the only difference is that we never follow the spread so closely to imbue it with sinister mind.

  116. Sean says:

    I commented and gave archive links about this months ago, but there is an article up about it now.

    SAN FRANCISCO has been praised for adhering to the advice of public health officials and responding to the COVID-19 pandemic quickly. But a century earlier during the Spanish flu pandemic, the city was met with anti-mask advocacy, a movement that also exists during the present-day health crisis.Hundreds of “mask slackers” failed to comply with the law during the pandemic, leading to their arrests, and an “Anti-Mask League of 1919” formed.

    Anti mask demagogues were beaten and shot on the street (someone had to do it). The Mayor was arrested and convicted for not wearing his mask properly.

    Government listening to qualified scientists ought to be mandatory and such an expert-led democracy would entail our leaders, thus guided, being given total authority to deal with this virus and any future virus by all means necessary. An auxiliary health oriented force needs to be formed to deal with virus defeatists and subversives who refuse to listen to reason.

    https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2020/03/31/2003733694
    Maybe it is time for a paradigm shift in how decisionmaking is approached in our ever more complex world. Perhaps our democratically elected decisionmakers should be stripped of the power to make decisions about topics that they can hardly understand, let alone manage properly.

    If such a power shift is itself surrounded with proper selections, checks and balances, I foresee more beneficial than disastrous outcomes in the future.

    Or keep ignoring us at your peril and suffer the consequences.

    Bruno Walther is a professor of biology at National Sun Yat-sen University’s biological sciences department.

    How is Taiwan doing? “Taiwan Coronavirus: 449 Cases and 7 Deaths”. That is a total of seven people dead in Taiwan from COVID-19 so far.

  117. @Astuteobservor II

    It is so nice to hear a retired murderer pleading to save lives for humanitarian reasons. Otherwise one could lose faith in humanity.

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  118. Coronavirus is one of the biggest psyop / scams in history, it does not exist and yet is pushed as a real virus and is instead an imaginary concept of the zionist kabal that rules the world and the kabal is using this scam to force the world into an Orwellian hell from which, if they suceed , there will be no return.

    By the way, wearing a mask lowers oxgen available to below OSHA safe standard of 19.5% and so wearing a mask does not protect a person from anything and in fact can produce ill effects from oxygen shortage, anyone who doubts this can google OSHA oxygen safe standards.

    Gates and Fauci and all involved in this scam should be tried for crimes against humanity.

    • Agree: Trinity, onebornfree
    • Replies: @onebornfree
  119. Polymath says:
    @obwandiyag

    It’s Taleb, not Talib.

    What he says is simple: in the absence of information we had to act with great precaution, so shutdowns were appropriate, but we have enough data now to know that widespread mask-wearing keeps transmission under control without shutdowns as has been shown in many countries (the other thing still necessary after shutdowns are lifted is to not have very large and crowded public events).

    This is not the same thing as saying the government should force people to wear masks! It should be a social norm, and government action should be taken at the most local level possible, according to Taleb.

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
    , @orionyx
  120. @animalogic

    But viruses aren’t blown out on their own, they are blown out via much larger Co2 aerosol droplets.

    ???

    CO2 is a gas. A small constituent of the planet’s atmosphere. And a good thing it’s there, too, or photosynthesis wouldn’t happen.

  121. onebornfree says: • Website
    @dfordoom

    “given the opportunity, most people would like to impose their own political and social views on the rest of society …..In other words, totalitarianism naturally appeals to most people.”

    Yes, true. There are many [too many] amateur wannabe FDR/Hitler/Stalin/Mao/Xi’s/Pol Pots/Bush/ Obama’s on this site, both writer and commenter.

    It’s all largely because they’ve all been brainwashed in government-run “education” systems which continually indoctrinate them all with the idea that government solutions actually can solve societies problems, when the truth of the matter is the exact opposite, they cannot- those government “solutions” will always only make things worse. And the brainwashed masses are all seemingly incapable of ever understanding that they’ve all been brainwashed by their government- a very thorough job was done on them- and all with their own money [stolen from them], too! 🙂 .

    See: “Why Government Doesn’t Work”
    https://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Why_Government_Doesn%27t_Work

    So, any proposed government “solution” to any supposed pandemic [assuming merely for the sake of argument that there is a real, deadly virus, which there probably isn’t], such as mandatory face masks, lockdowns , and all the rest of the B.S., can only make things even worse, which , of course, is exactly what has happened, and will continue to happen, unless, by some miracle, the brainwashed masses wake up from their robotic, TV and pharmaceutical drug and fake food induced trances.

    So any new “solutions” for the making of everything even worse than what it already was via current government “solutions” will be, what?

    You guessed it: even more moronic government “solutions” [eg more prolonged lockdowns, mandatory vaccines etc etc.].

    Government brainwashed idiots will simply never learn; never _can_ learn.

    Their answer to an even worse situation that resulted from government actions will therefor always be : even _more_ government actions restricting personal freedom.

    Slaves will be slaves. And so it goes………

    “Government is a disease masquerading as its own cure” Robert LeFevere

    “The kind of man who wants the government to adopt and enforce his ideas is always the kind of man whose ideas are idiotic” H.L.Mencken

    “Regards”, onebornfree

  122. For anyone interested –
    https://crushlimbraw.blogspot.com/search?q=Coronavirus&updated-max=2020-07-02T09:37:00-07:00&max-results=20&start=0&by-date=true&m=1 – this is a collection of headnotes to articles I have archived on Coronavirus in DaLimbraw Library – arranged by latest first.
    If there is one thing missing in the reporting on Covid and is now becoming more and more evident, it is the lack of PERSPECTIVE – purposefully! DaHerd has been spooked – just visit your grocery store – DaStampede is about to begin. There is no way of reasoning with a stampeding herd – you get out of the way or get run over!
    I frankly don’t know how this will end – but it will because DaHerd us headed for the cliff.

  123. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:
    @utu

    Never an epidemic/pandemic worthy of effort
    beyond “wash hands”, excluding hyperventilating and fear.

  124. @gsjackson

    Wow I had yet to connect the food supply with this whole “choose your gender” insanity. Thank you for your comment.

  125. Jim says:
    @steve K.

    Sadly, you made the key point. There was no evidence for calling a pandemic. If there is any doubt file a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request with the CDC (as I did on May 18) asking for proof that the “virus” has been perfected, that the “virus” has been proven to cause the “disease” and, oh by-the-way, proof of how the “virus” transmits between humans.

    The really frightening things about all of this are, (1) that there was no proof demanded by the lockdownees when the lockdowns were imposed and, (2) that there is still no proof, and none demanded.

  126. Trinity says:
    @Curmudgeon

    Oy vey, we must never, never, never, ever, ever, ever forget the 6 gazillion. The ALLEGED 5 million Gentiles have already been forgotten about long ago. Even the 6 gazillion would have have been a stretch, but how did those “evil Nazis” fight half the world on two fronts, and still find time to kill off 11million others?

    Btw, I am an old fart of 58, will turn 59 on July 18th and I haven’t worn a mask once. Of course I live in a state that isn’t run by idiots, at least not for now. IF they start issuing fines, I will probably have to abide like everyone else though. Not even a sniffle yet. What a miracle, huh?

    • Replies: @Da's Reich
  127. gay troll says:

    The genius of pathologized totalitarianism is like that old joke about the Devil … his greatest trick was convincing us that he doesn’t exist.

    I thought his greatest trick was planting all those dinosaur fossils and spreading heretical anticipations of a Virgin Mother and a Crucified Incarnation of God throughout pre-Christian Pagan cultures?

  128. @UncommonGround

    You’re worried about motorcycle riders spreading the Kung Flu, and yet you don’t understand how AIDS spread via men fucking other men in the ass?

    This is not the Black Plague, man. Get ahold of yourself! In the US, just over 130,000 people have died WITH the Kung Flu, though we don’t know how many actually died FROM the Kung Flu.

    Are you numerate enough to understand that 130,000 over 100 days or so is 1,300 a day, but yet, 7,500 people die a day on average in the US. Now, if that kept up for a year, steady, with deaths being ~ 20% higher than average, it would be significant, don’t get me wrong. However, the earlier deaths “experienced” by old people who were likely to die within less than a year or two will bring the daily deaths down to make up for it – we shall see by end of ’20, right? Right now, official deaths “of” COVID-19 are leveling off.

    Even it this death rate had kept up a lot longer, until the population got enough immunity, it’s not like one in 3, one in 10, one in 100 people are dying from it. Do you even know anyone that died from this COVID-19. I don’t, and I don’t know anyone (of a hundred people I’ve worked with over the last 3 months) who KNOWS anyone has died from it.

    I’ll take people like Dr. Fauci more seriously when I see commandeered Fex-Ex vans coming routinely, between trash pick-up and recycling pick-up, with a P/A blasting a recorded “Bring outcher Dead.”

    (Go to 0:55, if you’re pressed for time.)

    • Replies: @UncommonGround
  129. When the young start dying then we will know for sure that the shit is for real!

    • Replies: @Alfred
    , @TheTrumanShow
  130. @ploni almoni

    I know right? Killing the old is perfectly fine in your opinion.

    For the economy. Grands parents? Please, they can die for it.

    Why aren’t you dead yet you fucking murderer?

  131. @Achmed E. Newman

    Of course you are right, I just didn’t give it much thought. Gas “filters” are based on adsorption and not physical filtration as in the case of particulate removal. Yes, catalytic converters and other gas emission measures do not reduce particles to any significant extent and particle control methods have to be used to remove soot. As particulate filters of any sort get clogged up with particles their filtration efficiency actually increases but so does the pressure drop which impedes the air flow and hence the need to change them. Individual virions would be hard, or maybe impossible, to filter out with conventional particulate filtration methods but as they’re generally associated with aerosols, particles, droplets, filters could be of some use.

    I don’t live in a city so I only need to wear a mask when I go into a supermarket to get my provisions. But there is another benefit of wearing a mask that I have now noted since this Covid-19 crisis. I suffer from hay fever and I’ve noticed that wearing the mask has actually helped me during this hay fever season so I don’t get the usual symptoms. But I find that wearing a thin silk or other scarf does a fair job in reducing my pollen inhalation.

  132. Leo says:
    @obwandiyag

    another idiotic article from someone who thinks that real life is akin to the multiplication table.

    sure it only makes sense to wear the mask because… well after all it’s a mask isn’t it? mask will mask whatever and we’ll be free from the virus!

    it only makes sense to avoid fat in order to not get fat… after all it’s fat isn’t it? how did this work out so far?

    and yet we have Sweden – which provided months of real life evidence that masks, lockdowns, shutdowns and other idiotic measures don’t make any meaningful difference whatsoever.

  133. @Polymath

    Choices of transliteration are optional in Semitic lands. Quadaffiyeh.

  134. Leo says:
    @Astuteobservor II

    first, masks are not effective and there’s no evidence whatsoever that they affect the number of deaths.

    second, mandatory masks will cause more harm than good – because of countless negative consequences of any mandatory measures.

  135. @Trinity

    I’m of a similar age,

    The minute you “abide like everyone”, you become part of the problem,

    Refuse to comply, simple,

    I’m just back from the local supermarket, met a former colleague, shook her hand, I offered mine, she accepted, well done to her, and anyway she knew me well enough to know I would be a dissenting voice,

    Another customer, a male in his early thirties was literally jumping out of peoples way as though we we carrying the bubonic plague,

    His sort need to be culled, they will take the rest of us down with them,

    Maybe not culled, but slapped around the place a bit, certainly confronted about their subservience,

    I was so hoping he would say something to me 😉

    • Replies: @Trinity
    , @anon
  136. @Astuteobservor II

    • Doc! New medication, STAT!: Achmed E. Newman

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  137. Leo says:

    they decided to impose mandatory masks in enclosed public spaces here in Toronto for at least three months.

    just because some “medical officer of health” provided a mishmash of empty senseless phrases like coulda-woulda-shoulda-we-may-need-to-be-careful oink oink there are still some cases floating around!

    what is even more astonishing is the nearly overwhelming support of this insanity. the arguments of the deranged supporters are just perfectly described in the article.

    seeing people i know for years spewing the same nonsense is especially sad.

  138. @gsjackson

    Your incredible nose
    https://www.breatheology.com/incredible-nose/

    When you breathe out slowly you will trigger the part of your nervous system** that makes you feel relaxed and lower your heart rate. That is why this type of breathing is highly efficient to reduce stress and increase the feeling of wellbeing!
    . . .
    ** Master Your Nervous System
    The part of the nervous system that cannot be controlled by our will is called the autonomous nervous system. It consists of the sympathetic and the parasympathetic pathways that regulate the vital functions of the body. These can be influenced by inner and outer factors of both physical and mental origins. Both parts of the nervous system are con­tinuously at work and do it in an antagonistic way to maintain a healthy balance.
     
    “Fight or Flight” vs. “Rest and Digest”
    The sympathetic nervous system is mainly activated by stress and pre­pares the body for a fight. In other words, it is a survival mechanism that increases heart rate, blood pressure, blood sugar and dilates the pupils. It is termed a “fight or flight” response. Evolutionarily, it is necessary to be able to react promptly when facing immediate danger, but if the sym­pathetic nervous system becomes overburdened by prolonged stress, mobbing or hard physical activity, it will wear on the organism and has the potential to lead to fatal consequences.
    The parasympathetic nervous system, however, has a calming influ­ence. It lowers the heart rate and blood pressure and simultaneously promotes digestion and the uptake of nutrients. It is termed “rest and digest”. Hence, it is primarily during rest, eating and sleeping that the parasympathetic nervous system dominates and coordinates the body’s repose and regeneration. It is mainly this part of the nervous system that is advantageous to activate through breathing exercises. [reward for reading more]

  139. Trinity says:

    Why wasn’t Fauci the Weasel condemning the “peaceful protestors?” Hell, there must have been thousands marching across the Manhattan/Brooklyn Bridge(s) and they were only inches apart. When the riots petered out, the usual suspects started talking about the (((virus))) AGAIN non-stop. Fauci & (((Company))) disappeared during the riots or were out on coffee break but magically they have reappeared. Anyone who believes this (((virus))) propaganda is a total IDIOT.

    • Replies: @AB_Anonymous
  140. @Astuteobservor II

    My father died in a nursing home, just before this Covid crap,

    The real truth about nursing homes is that the residents get sweet fuckall visitors,

    The ever so ‘caring’ relatives of the residents are thin on the ground to put it mildly,

    The staff I got to know told me that in their experience, they see people for the first time when a resident dies, and that they all (the family of the deceased) seem embarrassed, as they know that the staff know, that they were almost never there for the resident,

    Dickheads like you are always so ‘concerned’ for others,

    Judging by your contribution here, you will be that old cunt in the nursing home that nobody wants to visit,

    • Agree: Alfred
    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  141. @Achmed E. Newman

    I knew you were on meds.

    I fucking knew it!!!

    🤣

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  142. @Leo

    What is the down side to wearing masks?

    • Replies: @Leo
    , @Vojkan
  143. Trinity says:
    @Da's Reich

    I have seen people working out with that damn mask on. Granted their workouts leave something to be desired because they certainly aren’t working up a sweat, btw, I am one of the oldest at the gym where I work out, so we aren’t exactly talking about old people here. Arnold SchwarzenPECKER complained about Golds Gym not MAKING people wear masks while working out. Arnold needs to take his sellout ass back home and workout in his well equipped home gym then. I think how unfair this is to people who are healthy teens, twenty and thirty somethings. This is the time where they are to enjoy life, meet people form relationships, etc. I could be pushing eighty and I still wouldn’t wear a mask and believe me, I have seen people that age at the store not wearing them, and I salute them. FUCK THIS MANUFACTURED BULLSHIT. Excuse my French, but WAKE UP PEOPLE.

  144. @Leo

    I am too lazy to link, but go read anatoly’s blog on this very website.

    Masks alone can lower R0 to 0.9.

    What is the big deal about not using such a fucking simple tool?

    Isn’t that the perfect tool for all the cries about “muh economy” by the retards?

    • Replies: @Leo
    , @Anonymousse
  145. @Leo

    At this stage I’m refusing to talk to anybody with a mask, or who refuses to shake my hand on meeting,

    It’s time to be that person that nobody wants to talk to,

    And do something small to fight back,

    Tear down a covid poster in your neighborhood, every small act of rebellion and defiance is gold,

    Take whatever stand you can or take a fall.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman, Alfred
  146. @lloyd

    If you take “the piece of cloth” at its face value, it is a good analogy

    It’s not an analogy, it’s clickbait for a poorly reasoned article. Here, everyone is encouraged to wear a mask to reduce the spread of water droplets infected with virus. The piece of cloth in the photograph was used to identify members of a specific group.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  147. Alfred says:
    @Really No Shit

    When the young start dying then we will know for sure that the shit is for real!

    They are careful to never reveal the ages of the dead or their pre-existing medical conditions.

    In fact, the number of dead is so low that they are resorting to reporting “cases”. Of course, the more people you test, the more healthy people will give you a positive PCR result.

    The Australian Medical Association has urged states and territories to temporarily stop lifting coronavirus restrictions in the wake of the spike in cases and outbreaks in Melbourne.

    The AMA’s president Tony Bartone said the 108 new cases revealed in Victoria on Saturday acted as a”stark reminder” that the pandemic is not yet over.

    ‘Play it safe’: AMA calls for a nationwide freeze on lifting COVID restrictions

    The complicity of the medical profession in this scam is appalling. Playing it safe is going to result in a massive number of deaths due to other causes – including stress and despair.

    • Replies: @Really No Shit
  148. Emslander says:
    @SafeNow

    I was thinking about just that phenomenon when I was reading this article, which I liked very much. I was seeing this emotion work itself out in people struggling to be “normal”. No one knows what normal is at any particular time, but we see trends coming at us that will inevitably become the norm. We anticipate normal by going out and buying up the trend.

    Who would have thought that it would be normal for grandmothers to be studying their I-phones for pictures of their grandchildren going swimming or picking their noses? It’s normal now because enough people worked through their discomfort with digital technology in “anticipation” of the next embarrassing moment at the club or office, because they can’t show everybody photos of Sissy’s new boyfriend in Kuwait. He’s from Kuwait because Mom observed that a certain percentage of the acquaintances and TV people had friends from pagan countries and in “anticipation” of feeling boring, urged Sissy to go find a dark skin to marry.

    The worst thing an American can ever be is “un-hip”. I saw well-known Democrats coming into church this morning wearing masks. They’ve learned that Democrats wear masks and Republicans don’t. Next week, when the danger of getting sick from the cold virus will be even less, more Democrats will be wearing masks to church, where we’re already distanced and cowed.

    I found a graph at this Oxford page of Covid19 statistics. I can’t reproduce it, unfortunately, but it pretty much tells the lie:

    https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/daily-covid-cases-deaths?country=~USA

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Alfred
  149. anon[144] • Disclaimer says:
    @Da's Reich

    I’m one of the ‘lucky’ ones who had cancer treatments during the scamdemic. At last mtg w/ oncologist, I offered my hand and he shook it. He did not obviously sanitize after handshake.

    Some of nurses at the cancer center were PITAs — one told me if I “failed to comply with temp checks” upon entry, “all further treatments will be canceled.”
    But other nurses complained about the “stupid masks,” one said she has “the immune system of a horse.”

    Medical professionals are victims of this scam, maybe even more than the rest of us: they have years and years of training and building skills and career on the line, coercing their compliance with political BS. Some, maybe many, may be in USA on visas that require that they work or leave. I don’t know about that, I do know that the great majority of medical professionals and their lower-tier assistants are not USA born — many of them struggle w/ English, not a good fit when you’re negotiating treatment for a disease that can kill you if not properly managed.

    Emslander: when I need a sanity-check, I drive into the mountains and interact with locals in small towns. Appalachian Mountain people are great! Trump signs all over the place; signs laughing at folks who wear masks;

    • Replies: @Da's Reich
  150. Some good points in here, but what worries me much more than the “wear a mask” stuff, is the propaganda and brainwashing, if you will, about idiocy like “white entitlement”, and scares me more is all the tearing down of statues, the extreme apologies if someone says something that just the twits on twitter don’t like, or the black lives matter crap, of the idolizing of Colin Kaepernick (with the socks he wore on the field showing police as pigs). Or the fact that high school and college kids say that the U.S. has never been great and some of those same kids don’t even know what the 4th of July is about nor even the year when the Declaration of Independence was finished. This and bizarre crap like the hate on the “one percenters” (I’m unfortunately far from where those 1% people are! LOL). There’s racism in the country from individuals, even some groups, but there’s no “systemic” racism. What a load of misguided, uninformed thinking! It’s the stuff like that that’s going on, that signals things more akin to Hitlers’ Brownshirts and even Lenin and Stalin, than this mask wearing stuff. I think that pales in comparison to these “antifa” idiots, who are actually very MUCH the new face of fascism.

    • Agree: TheTrumanShow
  151. Emslander says:
    @Mike Robeson

    The composer of the song, John Newton, as well as his father, was a slave trader.

    But he wrote the song about the effect God’s “amazing” grace had on him, to give up slave trading and reform his life in a charitable direction. It fits the idea.

    Not that I care one bit about BLM.

  152. Emslander says:
    @Saggy

    The only interesting question it raises is ‘why are all the idiotic CV hoaxers in the US?’

    Good question. Answer is that we in the United States haven’t been entirely dehumanized by all the European experiments with governing, from warlords to welfare states, and we can see government bullshit for what it is.

  153. @Astuteobservor II

    Do you understand the punctuation involved here?

    Listen, there is hope for you AO-II. I’m no physician, but just from troubleshooting cars and such, let’s do this: Write down all the different medications in the cocktail of pills that you consume twice daily. Ask your doctor for EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE of each one. Let’s try that for 2 months, no, 2 years, and we’ll get you back commenting after that.

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  154. anon[144] • Disclaimer says:
    @Emslander

    Thanks, Emslander

    here’s the chart you linked

    and here’s what residents of small towns in Appalachian Mountains think of the right to Breathe Free

  155. @Trinity

    Man, you bring up just one more pet-peeve of mine regarding this Panic-Fest, which I wrote up in “The country is going to COVID hell, but check out this Precor treadmill console!” There’s a lot more in the post (such as finding my favorite, engineer-friendly treadmill console), but the gist of it is:

    I had to sneak into the small fitness center a number of times at the hotel in one state with a dickhead totalitarian governor. Lights off, no TV and nobody around to want to watch it (which is just fine and dandy with me!), and a good workout was had. The thing is, one time I did remember to put a wipe thingy, of which my wife had loaded me down with, in my pocket to use after finishing. After all, the gym was closed (don’t ask, don’t tell), so there weren’t towels or wipe-cloths.

    The other few times I forgot to bring one, and well, tough shit for the next guy. I think my germs probably died a normal death within minutes or hours, so it should be fine – I don’t have those COVID ones that stay on doorknobs for 3 1/2 years. Oh wait, that was the Government Experts’ story 2 months ago. No, it’s all airborne nowadays. C’mon guys!

    BTW, Trinity, thank you for the great commentary, but I do agree with the guy who wrote you back saying, screw it, just disobey. Oh, one more good one:

    We ate outside a restaurant with no masks (how can you eat WITH them anyway), but they were required inside, at least the store part, where you pay. He went in to pay with no mask. They asked him to wear one. “I don’t have one.”, he said, truthfully, “Do you want me to pay or not?” Yeah, they would rather he pay. Haha! During the Black Plague, I’d think they would have told you to keep your money and get the hell out.

  156. Poco says:
    @Robert White

    And wearing a mask nips it in the bud.

  157. anon[317] • Disclaimer says:

    re the photos:

    those poor jews

    according to the book Unfinished Victory, even though the jews in Nazi Germany were less than 1% of the population they still owned over a third of real property as late as 1938

    https://justice4poland.com/2016/06/08/unfinished-victory-1940/

    They [Jews] did so with such effort that, even in November 1938, after five years of anti-Semitic legislation and persecution, they still owned, according to THE TIMES Correspondent in Berlin, something like a third of real property in the Reich.

  158. Leo says:
    @Astuteobservor II

    try to wear one and you’ll learn about at least a few of them right away.

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  159. @Achmed E. Newman

    Motorcycles have nothing to do with Covid19 and I didn’t suggest any connection between them. What I said was that some people think that they are free only because they are allowed to ride their motocycles, just like there are some people who think they aren’t free just because they have to wear a mask. Both are wrong.

    Of course, corona isn’t so bad as it could have been because many measures against it were taken. But according to calculations of the office that does this in Germany (a few weeks ago), people who died lost on average about 10 years of their life. The numbers for England are similar. If I remember correctly what I read not long ago, I think that the average age of people who get covid19 in the US now has gone down and is around 37 or 38 years old. Obviously most people in most countries think that those numbers are worrying.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  160. Leo says:
    @Astuteobservor II

    “Masks alone can lower R0 to 0.9”

    maybe in some research papers.

    in real life, when you impose MANDATORY masks you’ll mostly deal with filthy cloths embalmed with germs, viruses and whatever else. at best they won’t protect anybody – and at worst only worsen the spread.

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  161. @haha

    They will actually force us to do that. What they don’t force, bandwagon effect will.

    “Acceptance of nature” – that means accepting rape, racism, war, and “biological gender”, doesn’t it?

    When you think about it, coronamania follows quite logically from the rest of political correctness. Ten years ago, before true open season on whites, race didn’t even exist. I assume “biological gender” still does not. Rape wasn’t about sex, but about power. IQ was a myth, a tool of white supremacism. There’s still bellyaching about “standards of beauty” in the usual places. In the last analysis, it probably also means “anti-Semitism” isn’t some irrational fever that just happens to possess all the gentiles on the planet at various times, but rather, per lex parsimoniae, a simple response of various groups to the adversarial behavior of a single group obtruding on their living space.

    So why should they accept this “nature” with its icky and mean diseases? They’ve been denying it for sixty years. Reality is whatever the fuck they want or need at that exact moment.

    Remember HIV? I don’t either.

  162. @UncommonGround

    I understand now what you meant, though I still don’t agree. I do agree that, just because Americans are on their motorcycles (waving flags or what-have-you), doesn’t make them free.*. I would argue that getting forced to wear masks in a non-Black-Plague-style emergency situation is damn sure an infringement on our freedom (what’s left, that is!) How could anyone think otherwise?

    My remark on AIDS was just in regards to another scam, from almost 40 to 20 years ago (20 or so was when people finally got wise to it). That was the complete bullshit out of the experts of the day that AIDS could be transmitted in all kinds of ways, and everyone, not just gay males and blood donors/receivers, should be just as worried about it. Does the hype sound familiar? Interestingly, even with all that hype, gay people weren’t forced to act any differently than they did before it. (They may have very well acted differently on their own, some of them, but that was their business.)

    Now, on your numbers, guess what, U.G.? When you test more people, you get more cases. (You should read some of the links in my previous comments.) So what, younger people have the virus in them. How many are dying? The death numbers have nearly flatlined.

    Lastly, and out of order wrt your comment, I think nothing would have ended up differently had nobody done ANYTHING out of the ordinary during this bad flu season. If anything, regular people could have gone to the doctor for procedures, family could have consoled loved ones dying (or recovering) at the hospital, from whatever ailments, and people would not have had their lives so screwed up by various branches of government.**

    Thank you for the civil reply, U.G.

    .

    * We still had one hell of a free country in the late 1970s, but that’s something you may not know about.

    ** One of the few silver linings in all this, though, has been the exposure (no pun intended!) of parents to homeschooling options.

    • Agree: AaronInMVD
  163. Anonymous[326] • Disclaimer says:
    @Pavlov's Kibbles and Bits

    Good points. Panty masking, face tampons, or face diapering captures the real purpose, which is emasculating and humiliating men. Karens from what I see are having an orgasm over this. Fortunately, no group will suffer more in the coming civil upheavals and economic deprivation than this country’s Karens, and no group will deserve it more for giving the Dems the margin of victory that makes civil war inevitable.

  164. Alfred says:
    @Emslander

    Thanks. That chart is a real shocker. No wonder they stopped talking about deaths. Cases is the name of the game. Here is the chart for those too lazy to follow the link. I hope the Covidiots will stop criticizing this article. For those with poor eyesight, the line scraping the bottom of the graph is deaths

    • Thanks: Bombercommand
    • Replies: @glib
  165. @Polemos

    Of course, you could just wash either surface with soap and water to inactivate the virus.

    Nobody, I mean NOBODY has done any experiments to see what effect, if any, these washing treatments or surface environments have on the consequent supposed infectiousness of the RNA fragments given the names SARS-CoV-1 and SARS-CoV-2.

    Nobody has ever applied Koch’s Postulates to any virus, whatsoever.

    Maybe someone has done before-and-after measurements of these so-called viruses on surfaces but nobody has ever shown that a person became ill with the supposed COVID-19 disease nominally associated with these fragments of double-helix molecules.

    Washing the hands obsessively according to a specific ritual is a very jewish thing which Jesus criticized in several places. For example:

    [MORE]

    Woes to Pharisees and Experts in the Law
    (Matthew 23:1-36)

    37As Jesus was speaking, a Pharisee invited Him to dine with him; so He went in and reclined at the table. 38But the Pharisee was surprised to see that Jesus did not first wash before the meal.

    39“Now then,” said the Lord, “you Pharisees clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside you are full of greed and wickedness. 40You fools! Did not the One who made the outside make the inside as well? 41But give as alms the things that are within you, and you will see that everything is clean for you.

    42Woe to you Pharisees! You pay tithes of mint, rue, and every herb, but you disregard justice and the love of God. You should have practiced the latter without neglecting the former.

    43Woe to you Pharisees! You love the chief seats in the synagogues and the greetings in the marketplaces. 44Woe to you! For you are like unmarked graves, which men walk over without even noticing.”

    45One of the experts in the law told Him, “Teacher, when You say these things, You insult us as well.”

    46“Woe to you as well, experts in the law!” He replied. “You weigh men down with heavy burdens, but you yourselves will not lift a finger to lighten their load.

    47Woe to you! You build tombs for the prophets, but it was your fathers who killed them. 48So you are witnesses consenting to the deeds of your fathers: They killed the prophets, and you build their tombs. 49Because of this, the wisdom of God said, ‘I will send them prophets and apostles; some of them they will kill and others they will persecute.’

    50As a result, this generation will be charged with the blood of all the prophets that has been shed since the foundation of the world, 51from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah, who was killed between the altar and the sanctuary.h Yes, I tell you, all of it will be charged to this generation.

    52Woe to you experts in the law! For you have taken away the key to knowledge. You yourselves have not entered, and you have hindered those who were entering.”

    53As Jesus went on from there, the scribes and Pharisees began to oppose Him bitterly and to ply Him with questions about many things, 54waiting to catch Him in something He might say.

    There’s no evidence whatsoever that people who obsessively wash their hands all the time become sick with COVID-19 with less frequency or with less severity as compared to people who practically never wash their hands, with both groups somehow givven more or less equal exposures to people already sick with COVID-19.

    It shouldn’t be that difficult logistically but such an experiment might well be considered to be an unethical experiment on humans because hand washing is … what?

    Could they maybe have some people just rub their hands together under running water without any soap? Or maybe compare cold running water to warm running water? Or maybe just dipping them.

    What about the effect of sunlight? Florence Nightingale who was very strongly opposed to Pasteur’s germ theory of disease was a big proponent of taking sick people outdoors in sunlight and fresh air. Could it be that fresh air and sunlight have a bigger benefit in avoiding sickness and shortening the disease duration than any type of ritualized handwashing, say, where Povidone of 5%, 7%, 10% is compared to Chlorhexidine and then to all of those compared to plain soap and water? What’s plain soap, anyway, nowadays; and is it still true that Ivory is 99.44% pure and what’s the remainder of it? Hmmm. Does it really matter?

    YES, they want to make us jewish!

  166. AaronB says:

    But by not wearing a mask, you are seeking to impose your values on them. And you are not respecting the fact that they are terrified – rationally or not.

    I was on the fence about Covid for a while, but I’m finally convinced it is not real. Last week I was in Boro Park, the ultra-orthodox Jewish section of Brooklyn. I was on 13th avenue, the main, very crowded, shopping street. Literally no one was wearing a mask. No one was wearing them in stores either. The entire Jewish population of Boro Park is living life as if Covid never existed, in a maskless state of complete normalcy, and has been for some time. Its astonishing!

    And yet, there has not been a massive surge in cases or deaths in Boro Park.

    Nevertheless, I respect the fact that lots of people are afraid – they are materialists. Irrational fear is no less terrifying. And I do not wish to impose my perspective or values on them. So when I go into stores, I do them the courtesy of wearing a mask.

    People who are materialists are prone to panic and fear – when you cling to physical existence, even the merest hint of a danger or a threat is apt to appear enormous out of all proportion. And you lack any values or perspectives to mitigate that fear and put your mortal life into its proper perspective.

    But just as I hate it when materialists try and impose their values on me, I don’t wish to impose mine on them. I respect their right to be who they are.

    Increasingly, in this fractured culture, we will have to relearn the virtues of coexistence if we want to survive. At least to some extent.

    • Thanks: Alfred
    • Replies: @Marshall Lentini
  167. @Trinity

    Anyone who believes this (((virus))) propaganda is a total IDIOT.
    You’re talking about hundreds of millions genuinely believing people.
    Plus millions of those pretending they believe (to keep their jobs).
    Plus some of those people from the SCIENCE department (and everybody
    knows they would NEVER lie),
    Plus… Plus … Plus…
    So … You’re absolutely right.

    • Agree: Jett Rucker
  168. Fox says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Go to a surplus army equipment store. There are usually old gas masks for sale. Not as old as from the First War, but a few decades at least.

    • Thanks: Commentator Mike
    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  169. vot tak says:

    “It was always going to come to this … mobs of hysterical, hate-drunk brownshirts hunting down people not wearing masks and trying to get them fired from their jobs, “no mask, no service” signs outside stores, security staff stopping the mask-less from entering, paranoid pod people pointing and shrieking at the sight of mask-less shoppers in their midst, goon squads viciously attacking and arresting them …

    Welcome to the Brave New Normal.”

    You know, I’ve not experienced any of that nonsense. The pindo state I live in requires masks in stores, the stores themselves post notices of this telling people they need to wear a mask to enter the premises. But what do I see once inside? Some people wear them, some don’t. I absolutely saw no harassment of anybody by store employees or by customers. Absolutely none.

    Personally I now I put one on when inside, now that I was finally able to buy the things. For months many stores didn’t even have them for sale. It’s no big deal, no more than putting on a shirt or a pair of shoes. Will this be “a new normal”? Come on. 😀

    Looking at that first paragraph, hopkins provided free advertising to some twitter shlomo, zionazi-gay cnn, zionaz-(very) gay ny post and a youtubbie attention whore. That was just in his first paragraph. Every hit on those sites linked either directly or indirectly provided income to zionazi-gay media and furthered their reach.

    Think about that.

    It is no accident.

    It is bizniss as usual.

    It is a common practice used by networking psywar pundits throughout the web. Every far right pundit/site does this. It’s is not limited to the far right, it is pretty much universal among zionazi-nazi affiliates, covert ones or the obvious ones. For example both moon of alabama and information clearing house majority rely upon and reference western zionazi-gay sources for the material they write/duplicate on their sites. These two sites are presented as oppositional to the status quo in their self advertising, promote zionazi-gay sources. Are they getting royalties for doing it? Good question. Are they faux opposition? Yes, it’s the more covert wing of the psywar.

    A large part of the psywar works upon the same manipulations used in advertising. When one looks at an advert, it is all about perception control, with the target unaware of how they are manipulated. Even simple appearing adverts are psywar.

    One of the most simple and repeated themes is repitition of product name. So your 30 second ad repeats the product name often. The idea behind this is psychological. The mark remembers the name, because they heard it so often, when they go shopping. And because the name is now familiar to them, in their mind, that product name carries more desirability than a less familiar brand, the mark goes with the one they had drummed into their subconscious more effectively.

    So how does this subconscious manipulation work regarding promotion of zionazi-gay sources? The mark reading the pundit are steered to them, rather than legit sources. The mark then is familiarized with those zionazi-gay sources, rather than with sources not under zionazi-gay control. The mark is not being exposed to the alternatives, they are not being linked, or they are not being promoted nearly as much. The mark is subtly directed away from non zionazi-gay sources of information. The reinforcement of the zionazi-gay sources on the mark’s psyche is enhanced. The pundit’s spin, as oppositional, is presented as alternative, and the closed loop of circles round and round.

  170. Jett Rucker says: • Website
    @Quasi the Man

    Willing, hell! Able is the operant descriptor here. Anything smacking of “Holocaust denial” is instantly vaporized from a thousand directions.
    It’s just one of the growing number of things you’re not allowed to say – or even think.

  171. onebornfree says: • Website
    @Desert Fox

    “wearing a mask lowers oxgen available to below OSHA safe standard of 19.5% and so wearing a mask does not protect a person from anything and in fact can produce ill effects from oxygen shortage, anyone who doubts this can google OSHA oxygen safe standards.”

    Yep, so wearing a mask as “advised” by the US government is a direct violation of its very own mandatory safety regs! Neat, huh?

    “Gates and Fauci and all involved in this scam should be tried for crimes against humanity.”

    Yes. Gates and Fauci [under him] apparently directly ran/oversaw the Wuhan lab operations in China[ and probably still do], including all so-called “gain of function” experiments.

    Gates directly funds the Wuhan lab, as well the NIH, the CDC, the WHO, and the Imperial College in the UK [which, coincidentally, was initially responsible, via the clown “epidemiologist” Neal Fergurson, for the bogus computer model death projections written on a 40 year old software program {Fortran}, which produced different results every time the exact same data was entered, and scared half the world to death in the process 🙂 ], and doubtless other government agencies as well.

    His [Gates] vaccines are apparently already directly responsible for the deaths of millions [or is it “only” 100’s of 1000’s”?], in third world countries to date, and now the nasty little fucker wants to mandate a Gates patented CV-19 vaccine [including nanotechnology-invisible tattoos] for _everyone_, with blacks being the first to get it forced on them.

    The movie title “Kill Bill” comes to mind, more and more, these days.

    Regards, onebornfree

  172. @onebornfree

    Check this site, thedollarvigilante.com and watch Jeff Berwick videos, he knows the score on what the kabal is doing to us.

    • Replies: @onebornfree
  173. It drives me crazy when people attack authoritarians as fascists when plainly their inspiration comes from the left. I have been reading Mussolini’s brief The Doctrine of Fascism in which he sets forth a provocative but usefully clarifying and not unappealing position. He was a better philosopher than anyone on the left.

  174. onebornfree says: • Website

    State Governor Mandates Everyone Wear Snorkels In Case They Fall In A Pool

    [MORE]

    U.S.—As governors clamor to follow the ways of SCIENCE and save lives in their state, one state governor has read some very scary statistics from SCIENCE and decided to go the extra mile to protect the safety of his citizens. “Starting today,” he said, “All citizens of my state will be required to wear a snorkel at all times, both indoors and out. This will prevent thousands of tragic deaths resulting from people falling in their backyard pools. SCIENCE says we must do this.”

    Every person in the state will be required to wear a snorkel, preferably paired with goggles, 24 hours a day. When pressed as to why they were necessary indoors, the governor replied, “Hello! Sinks? Bathtubs? Showers? There are water hazards everywhere inside the house! We can’t be too careful! SCIENCE!”

    According to the order, anyone caught without a snorkel will be required to pay a $15,000 fine or face 8 years of jail time. Second offenders will be shot on sight. “We must do this to save lives and obey SCIENCE!! We are in this together,” the state governor exclaimed before tripping on a microphone chord and falling headfirst into the press pool.”
    https://babylonbee.com/news/state-governor-mandates-everyone-wear-snorkels-in-case-they-fall-in-a-pool

    regards, onebornfree

  175. @Mike Robeson

    But couldn’t BLM demonstration organizers have put a little more effort into learning the history of the song’s composer [John Newton, racist] before appropriating his work [‘Amazing Grace’]?

    You pose an important question. After all, once the ‘racist’ monuments are removed, then what? How will America’s new cultural guardians separate the good guys (anti-racists) from the bad guys (White supremacists).

    The answer to that question brings this daunting fact to mind:

    Many, if not most, of America’s greatest political leaders, industrialists, inventors, explorers, military heros, jurists, civic leaders, and writers were–up until the middle of the 20th century–unabashedly racist and pro-White.

    To eradicate ‘racism’ and ‘racists’ from the Brave New America will require an entire revolution against the very heart, mind, and history of our advanced–but rapidly fraying–civilization.

    Coming soon to a neighborhood near you: anarcho-tyranny dressed up in the humorless regalia of Anti-White Social Justice.

  176. @Achmed E. Newman

    You cannot wiggle your way out of this one Achmed. Now we all know you take crazy pills. Cat is out of the box.

    You are crazy.

    🤣

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  177. Liza says:

    Nobody was doing a jig regarding mandatory vaccinating prior to this Corona business. No, the vast majority of folks only got concerned because Billy Boy was behind the vaccine for Corona virus. Anyone here ever wonder why the federal government introduced a vaccine damage compensation program? Betcha you didn’t care, either. Now, it’s your ox being gored. Maybe it would be a good idea to reject all mandatory vaccines, on principle, including the ones for your ghastly measles. You know – the disease that millions of us got and lived through.

    https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation/index.html

  178. DrWatson says:
    @SteveK9

    What kind of scientist are you? I’ve never seen a real scientist spelling his profession with a capital S.

    • Agree: Incitatus
  179. @Leo

    Bullshit.

    Mandatory masks.

    And all news stations required by the govt to provide instructions.

    And an easy app that contains nothing but the instructions would be all that is needed.

    If Asians can do it, so can the western nations.

    • Replies: @Leo
  180. @Leo

    I wear one every time I go out of my house. My parents are equipped with gloves n hand sanitizer on top of masks.

    What downside?

    Be specific.

    • Replies: @Leo
    , @Alfred
    , @gsjackson
  181. @Da's Reich

    I know right, they can, and should all die for your economy.

    This dick head is sorry that he thinks you are a murderer for wanting to kill old people for the economy.

    What kind of dick head would I be to want to stop retarded murderers from wanting to Kill old people.

    I take care of my parents very well thank you very much. Please don’t project your own treatment of your parents onto me.

    • Replies: @Leo
    , @Da's Reich
  182. @Really No Shit

    Not to worry:

    “Stanford Doc: COVID Fatality Rate For People Under 45 Is “Almost 0%”

    according to Stanford University’s disease prevention chairman Dr. John Ioannidis.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/stanford-doc-covid-fatality-rate-people-under-45-almost-0

    • Replies: @Really No Shit
  183. Leo says:
    @Astuteobservor II

    well i guess you love it then. some people just love wearing masks. by all means do wear and enjoy. just leave other people alone.

  184. Leo says:
    @Astuteobservor II

    are you really that naive? do you understand what MANDATORY means?

    it means that tons of people are FORCED to wear masks against their will. they don’t care about your abhorrent “instructions”. just like me, they’ll be wearing the same mask when they absolutely have to – then stick it back to their pockets.

    none of them will waste a single moment to care about the useless masks. so in real life you’ll be surrounded by piles of filth that spread germs and viruses all around. it will be as healthy as sticking your nose into other people’s underwear.

    that’s what you get when you impose “mandatory” measures. ALWAYS.

    do you know that during the prohibition there were “instructions” not to drink? how did this work out?

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  185. @TheTrumanShow

    I will wait until the end of the year to see what is going to happen in the fall … perhaps a mutation that is deadlier may emerge to overwhelm us all.

    • Replies: @TheTrumanShow
  186. @Alfred

    How I remember sirens blaring every ten minutes or so in all of March and April… those ambulances weren’t driving around empty. It was truly a bad time. I will await the situation in the fall when the flu season kicks in… it will be déjà vu all over again!

  187. @Leo

    Third, a mask can’t protect you from an imaginary virus anyway.

  188. Art says:

    The ignorance of Gen-Z is overwhelming.

    Jews have a lock on the national teacher unions – they push anti-America crap. A whole generation is lost with no prospect of any change for the better. School boards are the first target of liberals elites.

    Young Americans Know Nothing About The 4th of July

  189. @gaston julia

    The piece of cloth that your mask is made of also identifies people of a certain group: Hearing AIDS sufferers. Hearing AIDS is a strain of AIDS that people get from listening to assholes, like the TV newstwits.

    • Replies: @gaston julia
  190. When I go shopping or out and about I bring a small sign I wear hanging on my chest like a big ID badge.

    I found the images at Anne Barnhardt’s blog but these are an earlier version and in both English and Spanish.

    It’s been three months here that we’re supposed to be wearing a face rag when we go shopping. I’ve never seen another person wearing such a sign. I’ve also seen extremely few shoppers being mask-less but every once in a while one of their employees will be mask-less, ostensibly for health reasons.

    A store manager in my favorite grocery store where I’ve been shopping for 20 years came over to thank me for wearing it because many people are experiencing great anxiety and it shows them there’s a reason for me to be mask-less.

    credit to Anne Barnhardt for these images. I print them and make a sort of big ID badge to wear around my neck when I go shopping.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  191. @obwandiyag

    Or could it be the rollout of 5g, this “virus” is cover for that

  192. While I can imagine the events and interactions you describe as being much as you portray them and it makes me think how, before microscopes could show us pathogens our species led by religious totalitarians had to make do with witches ….. nonetheless I think you overlook the much greater danger to life for the elderly and otherwise vulnerable. Now that could be rationally (economically indeed) ignored or coped with by ingenious rules there is one big factor you don’t mention that explains much. It is simply that politicians seek re-election and if you could be blamed for Grandma’s death because you weren’t ready with enough ICU beds or ventilators avoiding that blame and, if necessary, transferring it to selfish anti lock down folk, would be your main priority. No need to look further up the food chain.

  193. Mefobills says:
    @onebornfree

    Lockdown the government, permanently, NOW!

    On an island with just a few people, a government of sorts will form.

    Hierarchies form naturally.

    The questions are always “how the government is formed.” To whose ends it serves. What kind of hierarchy is in charge.

    I would be for a patriarchy where libertarians are locked up in re-education camps. Or maybe we just let Darwin settle the issue. Individualist “libertarians” get to die when roving gangs of free-dumb loving thieves decide they like your stuff more than you.

    Let’s get rid of the police, the law, and any form of government. Then we can all hug each other and sing along with John Lennon.

  194. glib says:
    @Alfred

    Thanks to you and emslander. You can see the compound effects of vitamin D, and to a lesser extent fresh air, DNA instability of the virus, and possibly its lack of fitness in warmer temperatures. For this they generated tens of millions of unemplyed.

  195. @onebornfree

    OK, that’s enough! I agree with your posts, OBF, but to impugn the reputation of a hard-core number-crunching reputable programming language like FORTRAN is beyond the pale, man. This Ferguson fuck just didn’t know how to program correctly, much less model the contagion process. He didn’t have a chance in hell anyway, but I guess he’d never heard the whole Garbage-in/Garbage-out advice.

    Anyway, you can blame government “experts”, totalitarian governors, the sheeple, and anything else for this ridiculous and embarrassing Kung Flu Panic-Fest, but, please, do not malign FORTRAN. Not on my watch, Sir!

    • LOL: Poco
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  196. @Leo

    Jeez, I thought you were at least logical. Just another lunatic.

    Wearing a fucking mask might as well be murder to you.

    Yea, you are that crazy.

  197. @Trinity

    Are they cleaning the bars and equipment with disinfectant between users in the gym? Have they posted new rules? Do they recommend distancing? And then how to do bench pressing without a partner being nearer than the recommended distance so the bar doesn’t end up on your throat?

    I must say I’m confused by all this. I don’t now know whether to shake hands or not, how to react when someone extends their hand, shake it, reluctantly, enthusiastically, or not? Same with distancing.

    Anyway, I don’t begrudge those taking precautions. It does seem to me just from anecdotal observation that there are fewer people coughing and sneezing than was usual before so the measures could be also working against the flu and the common cold. Or those who now have them are staying at home? And even if Covid-19 doesn’t kill you, if you catch it your life could be inconvenienced, for a few weeks at least. I mean, what do they do with you when you test positive? Quarantine you? Order or recommend self-isolation? And if you walk around anywhere will you be setting off alarms in passersby’ hand phones sending them scattering with all those tracing apps surreptitiously installed by Apple and Android? And you will be even under more stress than just trying to follow the rules.

    But then when guys as strong and fit as this one die at 57:

    https://www.rt.com/russia/493825-nurmagomedov-father-covid19-death-lesson/

    So he also had a stroke, but was it caused by Covid-19 as I don’t remember he was hospitalised because of a stroke? And he’d have had the best treatment money and fame can buy. And there are cases of even younger and fitter guys dying of Covid-19 but they don’t end up in the news.

    It’s OK to be a denialist, but I don’t think you should be so confident and arrogant in your denial, or imposing on others.

    • Replies: @Trinity
  198. Martín B. says: • Website

    Hello CJ Thanks for so awesome articule.

    You have been very acute in the perspectives we have in the not so far mankind’s future. A totalitarian and Orwellian world is raising before our eyes and the vast majority of the people can’t see it. It’s very clear and like you have pointed out is being done without hiding anything.

    I’ve made a short note in Facebook talking about “The hypochondriacs take the lead”
    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3078882415539547&id=100002534569073 (is in Spanish, my mother tongue, but I can translate it to my regular English)

    With another point of view from some definitions of modern psychology I get to some very similar conclusions.

    It’s all really sad. Let’s wait for some kind of supernatural intervention because if not the future of mankind looks very very dark.

    Regards, Martin B. From Argentina

  199. Hopkins: “In the space of four months, GloboCap has successfully imposed totalitarianism — pathologized totalitarianism — on societies all across the world.”

    I have no more than a vague idea what or who the author means by “Globocap” as he doesn’t say. I presume it’s a modern phenomenon, tied to globalism and capitalism. But a conspiracy of some sort is hardly necessary to explain this mandate to wear masks. Hopkins himself admits that a great many people love imposing totalitarianism on one another. Enforced conformity is a feature of all societies of which I’m aware. The collective mind makes a decision, the herd stampedes in one direction, and woe to the individual who disagrees and refuses to conform. The law itself is the mechanism of enforced conformity, and the law has been regulating human actions and interactions for thousands of years. In the time of Hammurabi, all law could be engraved on a stone tablet, but in a technological society such as ours, whole libraries of thousands of books don’t suffice to hold it all. The trend in law since ancient times has been to multiply laws and regulations without limit, until every action, every utterance, and even every thought is totally controlled. This is the very essence of totalitarianism. Incremental reduction of freedom until it vanishes entirely emerges not as the result of conspiracy, but is the unintended consequence of the growth of the technological system. Wearing a mask? In principle, it’s no different from being required to buy insurance to drive a car, or wear a helmet when you ride a motorcycle.

    Personally, I haven’t yet worn a mask, and can’t see the logic behind it. Once the virus is out in the environment worldwide as it is, what’s the point? Conceivably by wearing one you can delay becoming infected, but it won’t protect you or others 100%. If you’re exposed enough times, you’ll get it or transmit it even if you’re wearing a mask. Apparently they wear masks all the time in Asia, but as far as I know it hasn’t stopped them from getting or transmitting the flu or colds.

    Eventually I suppose we’ll all be required by law to purchase and wear a full biohazard suit whenever out in public. That will be much more effective than merely wearing a mask. Think of the old people it would save! And the children! LOL.

  200. This was no accident or a series of stupid mistakes. The US is a very big country yet everything seemed to go very smoothly as if they were following a long-planned and thoroughly rehearsed plan to destroy the economy and especially small business and entrepeneurs in favor of the big box chain stores.

    Plenty of small family businesses which were built with years of hard work have been destroyed because a governor or mayor decided they were non-essential in a totally arbitrary manner, allowing chain hardware stores to stay open but forcing the small business hardware stores to close for months, and then creating a cascade of bankruptcies of their suppliers and landlords who suffer similarly.

    There was a news item at Zerohedge about the million or so dead people who received government stimulus payments totaling $1.3 B, but that $600/week windfall for the unemployed ends this month.

    In the old days if jewish communists wanted to destabilize a country they’d organize a general strike, and then they’d foment fighting between police and strikebreakers, etc. But nowadays all they did was have their media outlets create a panic for fear of an imaginary disease.

    And just when that fear was dying down they create a fake news of a supposed cold-blooded murder of a black man by a cop and that’s a reason for abolishing police departments. A revolution is easier to accomplish if there is a complete breakdown of the social order and that’s clear as day happening right now.

    They want anarchy and they want people to be starving because there’s no food or the prices of food go sky-high.

    This is a planned Bolshevik takeover that used jewish-controlled media outlets to control the populace and prepare us for their one-world new jew order ruled from Jerusalem.

    Trump and Barr can’t do a damn thing to stop it unless a high-level whistleblower spills the beans and brings the thousands of pages planning documents and contingency plans where all the details were worked out.

  201. Steven80 says:

    A nice article, BUT…

    Blaming ordinary people for not being informed is not only foolish, it shows a total lack of understanding of how some social mechanisms works.

    The ability for critical thinking has always been a privilege of a small part of any society. This is not because of lack of information – most people only care about their everyday lives and no one can ever change that. No matter how good your educational system is, how patricotic your school curriculm can be, the majority of people will always prefer to focus on things like sports, drinking, gossip etc. Attention span is quite short for the majority of the population, and many studies confirm that.

    When I was a kid in the former Soviet block, everyone knew for years that the official press is good for nothing. Everyone, including party members, were making jokes about the rosy news in the state owned newspapers. This has been going for decades, with virtually all of the population knowing its all balooney, but no one was making any effort to change that. Why rock the boat? For promises of a bright future? Ha! And I wanto to emphasize, in the 80-es there were almost no forced inprisonments and arrests for people voicing their discontent. Most people were saying they were not hopeful for a change, winging about the soviet system but doing nothing about it. The communist party, of course, perfectly knew what was going on and was turning a blind eye on all of this as it had no incentive to rock the boat either.

    And suddenly everything crashed, as it was all based on lies.

    So yes, there is hope, and yes, ordinary people will do almost nothing – this is not how changes work. Changes apper to start from the bottom, but they are usually organised from the top when the right moment approaches. So in my opinion, it is a bad idea to blame ordinary people to try to make them think and get informed – there inever was any hope of change from the bottom. Those people will be useful once the trust in the system drops even further. It is just a matter of time, given the current hypocricy you see in the news.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
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  202. @AaronB

    But by not wearing a mask, you are seeking to impose your values on them. And you are not respecting the fact that they are terrified – rationally or not.

    1. As real (i.e. state and herd) power is on the side of those in favor of prophylactic theater, I am merely defending myself against their will, not imposing mine.

    2. And as it comes down to their will or mine, their discomfort or mine, why should I choose theirs? You invoke coexistence, but it’s an either/or proposition. They call me an asshole; I call them cowards – totally fair.

    Basic stuff, man. I like the old Shavian twist calling them materialists – but ultimately you’re rationalizing your own enslavement to yet another dogma, and by the inevitable ideological extension, everyone else’s.

    The entire Jewish population of Boro Park is living life as if Covid never existed, in a maskless state of complete normalcy, and has been for some time. Its astonishing!

    Jews playing by their own rules is astonishing? Are you sure?

    • Replies: @AaronB
  203. Alfred says:
    @Astuteobservor II

    I wear one every time I go out of my house. My parents are equipped with gloves n hand sanitizer on top of masks.

    Poor guy. You have a mental problem. Luckily, it is specific to you. I suggest you go to see a psychologist who does not wear a mask.

    What downside?

    Living in fear is supposed to be an aphrodisiac for some people. They say that there was a lot more extramarital affairs when London was being bombed. Civilians and soldiers had to carry around gas masks for 5 years – although the Germans never used gas.

  204. @Really No Shit

    While you’re waiting, you might have a look at this June 10th article:

    “Coronavirus: Why everyone was wrong. The immune response to the virus is stronger than everyone thought.”

    The author, Beda M Stadler, is the former director of the Institute for Immunology at the University of Bern, a biologist and professor emeritus. Stadler is an important medical professional in Switzerland.

    Here’s a sampler:

    “2. The fairy tale of no immunity
    From the World Health Organisation (WHO) to every Facebook-virologist, everyone claimed this virus was particularly dangerous, because there was no immunity against it, because it was a novel virus. Even Anthony Fauci, the most important advisor to the Trump administration noted at the beginning at every public appearance that the danger of the virus lay in the fact that there was no immunity against it. Tony and I often sat next to each other at immunology seminars at the National Institute of Health in Bethesda in the US, because we worked in related fields back then. So for a while I was pretty uncritical of his statements, since he was a respectable colleague of mine. The penny dropped only when I realised that the first commercially available antibody test [for Sars-CoV-2] was put together from an old antibody test that was meant to detect Sars-1. This kind of test evaluates if there are antibodies in someone’s blood and if they came about through an early fight against the virus. [Scientists] even extracted antibodies from a Lama that would detect Sars-1, Sars-CoV-2, and even the Mers virus. It also became known that Sars-CoV-2 had a less significant impact in areas in China where Sars-1 had previously raged. This is clear evidence urgently suggesting that our immune system considers Sars-1 and Sars-Cov-2 at least partially identical and that one virus could probably protect us from the other.
    That’s when I realised that the entire world simply claimed that there was no immunity, but in reality, nobody had a test ready to prove such a statement. That wasn’t science, but pure speculation based on a gut feeling that was then parroted by everyone. To this day there isn’t a single antibody test that can describe all possible immunological situations, such as: if someone is immune, since when, what the neutralising antibodies are targeting and how many structures exist on other coronaviri that can equally lead to immunity.
    In mid-April work was published by the group of Andreas Thiel at the Charité Berlin. A paper with 30 authors, amongst them the virologist Christian Drosten. It showed that in 34 % of people in Berlin who had never been in contact with the Sars-CoV-2 virus showed nonetheless T-cell immunity against it (T-cell immunity is a different kind of immune reaction, see below). This means that our T-cells, i.e. white blood cells, detect common structures appearing on Sars-CoV-2 and regular cold viri and therefore combat both of them.
    A study by John P A Ioannidis of Stanford University — according to the Einstein Foundation in Berlin one of the world’s ten most cited scientists — showed that immunity against Sars-Cov-2, measured in the form of antibodies, is much higher than previously thought. Ioannidis is certainly not a conspiracy theorist who just wants to swim against the stream; nontheless he is now being criticised, because the antibody tests used were not extremely precise. With that, his critics admit that they do not have such tests yet. And aside, John P A Ioannidis is such a scientific heavy-weight that all German virologists combined are a light-weight in comparison.”

    https://medium.com/@vernunftundrichtigkeit/coronavirus-why-everyone-was-wrong-fce6db5ba809

    • Thanks: Miro23
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  205. Whitewolf says:
    @UncommonGround

    A nice virtue signalling rant. We bow before your superior virological expertise and righteous concern for our health.

  206. anarchyst says:
    @Curmudgeon

    Actually it was zionist leaders who proposed that jews be required to wear the yellow “star of david” on the outside of their clothing, not unlike the mask promoters.

  207. onebornfree says: • Website
    @Desert Fox

    Yes, I already know about Jeff Berwick’s stuff, I’ve been a fan of his videos for a couple of years now – the new “Lucy and Jeff” dog walk stuff is very good.

    Regards, onebornfree

  208. @steve K.

    You’ve got the truth.
    The masked men have pressure tactics.
    The truth is mighty and will prevail.
    We who stick with it will too.

  209. @Ann Nonny Mouse

    WARNING

    I didn’t type the comment I’m responding to here, and don’t remember seeing the comment I appear to have responded to there.

    Someone’s experiment on a seemingly very secure system.

  210. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Eventually I suppose we’ll all be required by law to purchase and wear a full biohazard suit whenever out in public.

    Dr. Morgan, I saw a guy 2 weeks ago wearing that kind of get-up in the big hub airport terminal. I gave him an “are you retarded” look. For the mask people, I just look at them like they are semi-retarded. Really, most are just plain sick of this, but are still too compliant under authority.

    I saw one guy with the bandana-style mask and made some comment about “is there gonna be a robbery in Dodge City?” (Honestly, it was a pretty lame line – I coulda done better with a minute’s thinking.) The guy pulled the bandana down and we started chatting. He was very friendly and completely skeptical of this whole thing. He was required to wear it, but he just starting slowly sipping on a small water bottle – “plausible deniability” he said.

  211. AaronB says:
    @Marshall Lentini

    Jews playing by their own rules is astonishing? Are you sure?

    What’s astonishing is that here we have a clear experiment of a community completely ignoring any and all Covid safety rules and not suffering a higher rate of infection and death, with everyone ignoring this.

    Tbh, its not necessarily weirder than many other things relating to Covid that completely invalidate the official narrative and are just as completely ignored, just for me it was the final straw.

    As for mask wearing, I think we should be sensitive to people in the grip of an irrational panic – they can’t help themselves. At the same time, I agree they should be less harshly condemning towards dissenters.

    • Replies: @Albert F.
  212. Albert F. says:

    Lets not forget that money talks and and bullshit walks. The powers that be have looted the credit of millions of this contrived pandemic’s unemployed losers, to the tune of billions and billions of freed up CREDIT. Those millions of now defunct 8% auto loans have turned into billions of dollars of cheap 2% bucks for those still lucky enough for the banks to consider credit-worthy.

  213. Albert F. says:
    @AaronB

    “What’s astonishing is that here we have a clear experiment of a community completely ignoring any and all Covid safety rules and not suffering a higher rate of infection and death, with everyone ignoring this.”
    Whats astonishing is that some people are taking 10 grams of ascorbic acid every 3 hours and aren’t worried about dying from this gangster-disease.

  214. onebornfree says: • Website
    @Achmed E. Newman

    “This Ferguson fuck just didn’t know how to program correctly, much less model the contagion process. “

    Are you implying that if he [or anyone else, for that matter] had the “right” numbers, and knew how to program “correctly”, that his/their model would have been be accurate, and that therefor we would all then have to trust those figures and go into lockdown, or do whatever else was “advised”, whatever the hell it might be?

    “but to impugn the reputation of a hard-core number-crunching reputable programming language like FORTRAN is beyond the pale”

    Assuming you were not being “tongue in cheek [its hard to tell], I’m, not a statistician or mathematician or engineer, but I’d heard from at least one person I halfway trust [David Knight] who claims those skills that Fortran is a very old/bad program that has been superceded by far more reliable programs these days. Perhaps he’s wrong, perhaps not, I have no idea. All I know is that its very old, and that “therefor”, chances are that Knight is correct, and that far better, newer programs likely exist. [After all that’s been my experience with graph writing software.] But maybe “old is good” in this case?

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Replies: @David riskanalyst
  215. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Apparently they wear masks all the time in Asia, but as far as I know it hasn’t stopped them from getting or transmitting the flu or colds.

    This was not the case before Covid-19. Asian cities are overcrowded but still only few or some in the Far East and Southeast Asia used to wear masks, and perhaps a few more than usual during epidemics. I have no idea if it reduced the incidence of colds and flu among those who wore them. Whites never wore masks before the pandemic.

    I wonder if you did a survey, say in New York, of the proportion of people wearing masks by race would it be highest for Asians and lowest for blacks with whites somewhere inbetween? Sort of reflecting the IQ distribution. And the Jews? We read that the Orthodox shun the masks but the secular Jews, do they reflect the whites with respect to mask wearing?

    We do see old photos of whites wearing face masks during pandemics in the early 20th century but they stopped wearing them when the epidemics passed. So there is still hope that this will not be permanent and things will go back to normal. But our world is far more crowded than 100+ years ago and getting more crowded, so who knows what awaits us?

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @gsjackson
  216. @Fox

    BTW, has anyone invented and started marketing waterproof face masks for swimmers? I don’t want to be taking the oxygen tank and diving gear just for a swim in a public pool or crowded beach, LOL, too cumbersome.

  217. AaronB says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Its one of those irrational panics that hits the world every so often, especially in unsettled times.

    They usually last 2-3 years, then the world will move onto the next irrational panic. In 3 years from now there will be some new thing. Its like the Dutch Tulip Craze.

    Fwiw, in NYC something like 99%+ of whites wear masks, and like 80% of blacks (very high).

    Among Asians, I have noticed that among rougher mainland types, not necessarily working class but managers and landlords and the like, a large number do NOT wear masks. Among those I have dealt with.

    That’s why I was so astonished to see literally 0% mask wearing among the Jews of Boro Park, even in tightly packed stores. To come from an area where 99% of whites and the majority of blacks are wearing masks, even while jogging and riding bicycles, and many stores have plexiglass in front of cashiers, to travel a few miles and see none of this, was very interesting. There should be bodies lining the streets – instead, the area is full of life.

    The way you know this is an irrational panic is that people ignore this (among many other things). When it was pointed out to Ron Unz that the CDC now reports an infection rate more than 10 times what was thought, which means the fatality rate is no higher than the flu, he merely responded by saying the CDC is corrupt and untrustworthy, and only the Communist Party of China, which initially covered it up and arrested doctors who reported on it, is trustworthy.

    So people just make up stuff up to fit with their irrational prejudices, and believe what they want to believe.

    But I personally think we need to be sensitive to such people – a fear is no less paralyzing for being irrational. And we are all of us irrational – none of us are exempt. Perhaps those who pride themselves on being rational are especially susceptible to unreason, as we see, because they are unwilling to accept that they are human, but all of us are affected.

  218. @DrWatson

    I’ve never seen a real scientist spelling his profession with a capital S.

    And… that matters… does it… ?

    Does it… REALLY ?

  219. gsjackson says:
    @Astuteobservor II

    Make sure Mommy and Daddy take extra precautions when middle school starts back up again. They don’t want their boy (or girl?) to go unprotected against all those homicidal virus carriers out there. When you go shopping for back-to-school garb, maybe a nice, well-fitting HAZMAT suit should be on the list. Our children are our greatest asset, and we want to protect you at all costs.

  220. gsjackson says:
    @AaronB

    Boro Park? Sounds like insider information, similar to 9-11. Or maybe the community just collectively have half a brain among them and have figured out the scam.

  221. gsjackson says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Well, the world certainly won’t be crowded for long if males and females continue to wear face diapers and fearfully keep their distance from each other. I’m curious to see the birth rates starting in about five months. Gates and the other depopulators may already be a good chunk of the way toward their objectives.

    I simply cannot believe these comments that take the “new normal” crap seriously. That’s not human life. Not anything like it. That’s slavery.

    • Agree: Trinity, Emslander
    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  222. @Steven80

    Yes. Don’t forget that humans are social creatures who naturally organize themselves into hierarchies the vast majority being followers and only a tiny minority capable of being leaders. Most people in a society just want to be left alone so they can try to find others who are their peers and similars. Most people want some type of security and safety. Finding truth and doing the right thing don’t matter.

    I do my frontyard art for me, not to change anyone’s mind. For six years now people scrupulously avoid even glancing at it, the only exception being my three minutes on the 10 O’Clock News of KOB 4.
    https://web.archive.org/web/20180118192347/https://www.kob.com/albuquerque-news/provocative-signs-spotted-at-home-near-unm/4748054/

    But there is other intelligent life in Albuquerque of which I was unaware until just a few days ago when I saw this at the KOB 4 website:
    https://www.kob.com/albuquerque-news/statue-of-jeffrey-epstein-mysteriously-appears-in-albuquerque/5778652/

    Who is the Antlion Entertainment (Art) Collective? And KOB 4 sure seems to be the only local TV station I’d want to watch.

    Jeffrey Epstein Statue mysteriously appears in Albuquerque on July 1, 2020. Joshua Panas, KOB 4

    Statue of Jeffrey Epstein mysteriously appears in Albuquerque, Joshua Panas
    Updated: July 03, 2020 10:21 AM, Created: July 01, 2020 01:55 PM

    ALBUQUERQUE, N.M.- A bronze statue of Jefferey Epstein appeared in downtown Albuquerque Wednesday.

    It’s not clear who created the statue, or why it was placed in front of City Hall.

    Albuquerque Mayor Tim Keller said he didn’t know who was responsible for the statue. It was removed Wednesday morning.

    A plaque on the statue said it was provided to “Bernalillo County by the Antlion Entertainment (Art) Collective.”

    Statue of Jeffrey Epstein mysteriously appears in Albuquerque
    Epstein was a convicted sex offender who had a home in New Mexico.

    He died after being found unconscious in a New York jail cell.

    Copyright 2020 – KOB-TV LLC, A Hubbard Broadcasting Company

    • Replies: @gsjackson
    , @Steven80
  223. @Richard B

    A force that is brutal, stupid and arrogant.

    The last thing it is is “genius.”

    I just can’t believe I’m having to explain something so completely basic to you – but it’s so painfully clear that you simply DON’T understand. So here goes:

    The author’s choice of the word “genius” does NOT refer to the “force that is brutal, stupid and arrogant”. It refers to the totalitarian skill in making the “force that is brutal, stupid and arrogant” appear to be nothing of the sort !! In other words, how easily and swiftly it has been accomplished – using sheer bare-faced lies, deceit and willing enforcement via an army of idiots !

    Their POWER OF DECEIT – THAT is the “genius” which the author is referring to here.

    Got it now ?

    • LOL: Richard B
  224. gsjackson says:
    @David riskanalyst

    There is extremely intelligent life in Albuquerque, and he posts here as, I believe, JohnnyWalkerRead. That doesn’t look quite right reading it, but the handle is something like that. His posts are well worth taking note of.

    • Replies: @David riskanalyst
  225. @DrWatson

    Do you think you’re God? Capitalization of nouns is used in English for emphasis.

    The writing style here tends to be a lot less formal than you’d see in a Scientific Paper.

  226. Trinity says:
    @Commentator Mike

    I could very well catch the (((virus))), and I could have caught the Hong Kong flu when I attended school in he late 1960’s as well. EVEN IF I BELIEVED THESE FUDGED FIGURES, if I am remembering correctly, the Asian flu in the late 1950s and the Hong Kong flu in the late 1960s killed far more people than the MANUFACTURED JEW FLU. Then we had the Spanish flu way back in the day and somehow, even though many died, people carried on. Death is part of life.

    As for new gym etiquette. The water fountain is off limits, and members are given a spray bottle and towel to wipe off equipment, of course there is hand sanitizer provided at the front desk as well. Showers and use of lockers are also off limits, at least they are in my gym. As for flat bench pressing with someone’s nuts sticking in your face? Easy. Incline Bench Press. You should be doing the incline bench press anyhow, it is a better lift and transfers over to sports and every day activity more so than the flat or decline bench press. IMO, the only people who should use the flat bench press are powerlifters because they have to in competition. The flat bench will overdevelop your lower chest and what man needs that? Okay, still there are guys who will teabag you on some of those incline benches with platforms for the spotters, but I have an old school style incline bench press and knowing my capabilities rarely even ask for a spot.

    Hey, everyone is going to die from something. Where I live, north of Atlanta, people drive like maniacs. Chances of me dying in auto accident are probably much higher than me dying from the Jew Flu. Matter of fact I went off an embankment in 2012, missed getting speared by a Georgia pine by inches and escaped LUCKILY with just a broken ankle and a badly bruised chest and back. I am not going to live my life fearful, be it a disease or manufactured virus, or whatever. LIVE LIFE AND STOP BEING FEARFUL. We are all going to die, and hell, even if I go today, I lived longer than many of my classmates that I graduated high school with. Plus, after 40, it is all downhill anyways.

  227. @onebornfree

    @Achemed E. Newman had it exactly right in saying “but to impugn the reputation of a hard-core number-crunching reputable programming language like FORTRAN is beyond the pale.”

    You’re confusing the medium for the message. FORTRAN is a programming language with the name being an acronym FORmula TRANslation.

    Criticizing Ferguson’s idiotic so-called model because it was written in I’m pretty sure both some vintage of FORTRAN (there was 66, 77, and 90 before I retired) linked to some parts in original C shows that this David Knight doesn’t know of what he speaks.

    It’d be like criticizing a person for listening to a recording in mono of Pablo Casals playing the Bacck Cello Suites because someone somewhere processed those old tapes into a sort of pseudo-stereo.

    Scientific programming ever since the 1950s has been and remains FORTRAN in the main.

    They added recursive procedure calls in FORTRAN 90 so than means it allows a theoretically infinite sequence of operations to be prescribed such as needed for tree traversal.

    My very first large scientific code included a portable pseudo-random number generator which I adopted from the first 1986 edition of the well-regarded Numerical Recipes “by William H. Press, Saul A. Teukolsky, William T. Vetterling and Brian P. Flannery. In various editions, the books have been in print since 1986.”

    Because of differences in word length and roundoff handling versus truncation, primarily, there are various things a programmer can do to ensure that running a simulation on different computers and operating systems and under different compilers they’ll all give the same answer, more or less, varying maybe only in the least significant digits because of say the differing precision of a 32-bit versus a 64-bit word. That was one of the most important reasons for Press et al. writing all those books.

    Ferguson is an idiot for not being aware of such effects when it was something drilled into me as a C. Sci and Math student in the 70s when Press et al. hadn’t yet been written my professors still expected us to be aware of and have a solution for numerical portability.

  228. Leo says:
    @Astuteobservor II

    do you understand that destruction of economy = destruction of health care = killing of way more people than covid will ever do

  229. @Astuteobservor II

    I never once suggested that the old should be sacrificed, don’t know where you got that,

    And I’m not projecting anything on to you, I visited my father most days of the week for the duration of his stay in a nursing home, no big deal, I kind of miss the routine now in a way,

    In my country there is essentially nobody with the ‘virus’ and still it’s all doom and gloom from people who sound like you with your intolerance of any view other than the Gov propaganda,

    Oh and eh, had a good end to my evening yesterday, spraying ‘SCAM’ on the covid propaganda at bus shelters, which asks people to basically not get on the bus when it arrives and leave it for other people,

    A bus stop that asks people not to get on the bus 🙂

    Have a good day sir.

  230. @Trinity

    At this stage here in Ireland the media are trawling the country for the exceptional cases to keep the fear thing going,

    I got the usual seasonal flu thing at Christmas 2018, and boy was I starting to get worried,

    Not about dying but about when the hell I could expect to get back to normal,

    These viruses can be quite dreadful and of course fatal for the old and vulnerable,

    However,

    What’s happening now re this Covid 19 tripe is truly authoritarian,

    If alarm bells ain’t ringing loudly then there is little or no hope for us as the weak of body, soul and mind, will drag us all down with them.

    • Agree: Trinity
  231. Anybody know where the word SCAM comes from?

    I do ;-),

    It’s from the Irish word for crooked,

    So in Irish the phrase is ‘Is cam é’ meaning it is crooked,

    but when saying it the s and c roll into each other,

    When the Irish came to America first they of course were preyed upon and they would tell each other,

    don’t buy that etc, it’s crooked,

    Is scam é,

    I’ll be out in my neighborhood tonight spray painting that on the covid propaganda,

    Happy days.

  232. @AaronB

    Thanks for the report on NYC.

    Now I recall, some bicyclists started using masks a while back but those were for air pollution.

    Things are still not clear. These newer infections seem to be among younger people, probably due to the protesters and clubbers since the emergency was relaxed or them ignoring it, and among them the death rate is far lower, hence low death rates but high infection rates. And in the older age groups probably most of those susceptible to death by Covid-19 already died during the earlier phase when death rates were rising. And it can’t yet be dismissed that the protective measures and the emergency haven’t actually lowered the infection and death rates.

    • Replies: @TheTrumanShow
  233. @gsjackson

    Well, the world certainly won’t be crowded for long if males and females continue to wear face diapers and fearfully keep their distance from each other.

    That could also be part of the plan. There is certainly concern about the exploding population and its many impacts but few dare talk about it or trying to limit it because of accusations of eugenics and genocide, so they may be trying to carry it out under other guises. The problem of overpopulation is mainly in the Third World while white population numbers are generally in decline, so again this is not discussed as it also brings forth accusations of racism and supremacism. So they probably try to impose these surreptitious population control methods first in the West, hoping that once they’re established there, the rest of the world will copy, as it copies most things from the West such as fashions and lifestyles (another is Gates’s vaccines for the Third World with intended sterlisation “side effects” ). Hence also all this promotion of LGBT lifestyles and breakdown of family life. These Covid-19 measures have been imposed everywhere in the world simultaneously and they definitely promote greater alienation, individualism and atomisation of society. This is something new in third world countries and probably a way to make them more individualist like whites are, contrary to their far greater degree of socialisation and their extended family lifestyles. It’s quite a shame really, as a far better way of dealing with overpopulation in those countries would be through education on the issue and raising their living standards (the latter would also reduce economic migration from those countries to the West but it would require an overhaul of the global economic system including overthrowing the corrupt elites that rule those countries, and such elites in the West too … but that goes contrary to the way the present world order is run). Of course all this has also disturbing psychological impacts on people everywhere.

    • Replies: @Insouciant
  234. Adûnâi says: • Website
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    > “Hopkins himself admits that a great many people love imposing totalitarianism on one another. Enforced conformity is a feature of all societies of which I’m aware.”

    Of all – except for Americans, who are the only “nation” (if you can call them such a magnificent term) in the world which hates their state apparatus, where going to school is seen as shameful, where believing in the Apollo missions, 9/11 or vaccination is boot licking. Russians hate their government for “corruption” and nepotism; Americans are chaotic anarchists in principle, hating all human interaction. It is the Americans for whom the word Propaganda is a pejorative.

    > “This is the very essence of totalitarianism. Incremental reduction of freedom until it vanishes entirely emerges not as the result of conspiracy, but is the unintended consequence of the growth of the technological system.”

    Then how do you explain America or Germany, where people can fuck one another on a sidewalk? Where everything is allowed? Where people openly whore themselves out, smoke psychogenic drugs? Things so degenerate and chaotic, they would land you in a GULAG for sure in the USSR, let alone Juche Korea, where people still have some morals and restraint left.

    > “Personally, I haven’t yet worn a mask, and can’t see the logic behind it.”

    Practically, I applaud your action, as I want Americans to die. Bravo! But for the matters of serving Order, it appalls me to no end. I hate vehemently this American attitude of despising the collective. Is this even exclusive to the Americans? The Russians destroyed their own country because they refused to believe in the sanctity of their own leadership (starting with Khrushchev who desecrated the very heart of Moscow by the sacrilege of removing the body of Stalin from the Mausoleum).

    P.S. I can only post two comments per 24-hour window, sorry for any delays.\

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    , @Vojkan
  235. Commentator Mike: “[Mask wearing] was not the case before Covid-19. Asian cities are overcrowded but still only few or some in the Far East and Southeast Asia used to wear masks, and perhaps a few more than usual during epidemics. I have no idea if it reduced the incidence of colds and flu among those who wore them.”

    Seems to me that I’ve seen photos of Japanese wearing masks for years now. But maybe that was just in Japan, and only in the cities.

    But it would indeed be astonishing if it turned out that such a simple technique as wearing a mask could prevent colds and flu. Where was the CDC and WHO on this before? Haven’t they been telling us that hundreds of thousands die every year of flu? If that could have been so easily prevented all along, they are quite incompetent.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  236. @gsjackson

    Beg your pardon. But the freedoms here in NM might somehow be relevant to the new Authoritarianism.

    Yes, he replied to one of my posts about the arrest of Steve Baca and addressed me in good Spanish as a fellow Buerqueno. I’d be quite easy to find if you watch the video from KOB 4:
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/Ua54pQJNfQisr6HE8

    But as I said, I prefer interactions in real life to internet exchanges with people who hide their identities.

    Steve Baca most people should already know was released on his own recognizance pending his trial for the charge of unlawful carrying of a deadly weapon. In the videos taken earlier that show him defending the statue and shoving the unknown women for which the charges were dropped it was not apparent that he was openly carrying that gun, which probably led the DA to the charge of unlawful carrying as concealed.

    Now it’s off-topic and my apologies because I promise not to do it again and especially to C.J. but the gun laws of our state are very dear to my heart because as I’ve said elsewhere at Unz that one of the reasons for my moving out to NM from the NYC of Charles Bronson Death Wish movies was the laws favoring open carry and also the very unusual extension of the Castle Doctrine for concealed weapons being extended to motor vehicles, motorcycles, bicycles, and maybe even skate boards all as extensions of the home if they are privately owned as used as transport vehicles or maybe not in motion but parked somewhere as long as the driver is not drunk with keys in the ignition, essentially.

    Well, the first point on the unlawful carrying charge is that it only applies to loaded weapons meaning a round in the chamber and/or a loaded magazine in the gun. A gun can be legally transported in a concealed state as long as it’s unloaded, and the carrier not intoxicated. Baca might possibly have been simply transporting the gun in an unloaded state but due to the attacks on him he might have then decided to load the weapon and thereby be legally openly carrying and maybe the apparent absence of an OWB holster could be because he didn’t have it in a holster and we have no law against holding a gun in the hand, the so-called Brandishing law.

    But even if he was carrying a concealed loaded weapon the crime of unlawful carrying is the lowest of crimes, a petty misdemeanor, where the sentence for petty misdemeanor in New Mexico can never be more than six months in jail or a fine up to $500, or both. Even if convicted it would not be a bar to possessing firearms or obtaining a CCW.

    I make no secret of my identity and he’s welcome to stop by and see my frontyard art where I’m often outside painting my signs and very often openly carrying.

  237. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    But it would indeed be astonishing if it turned out that such a simple technique as wearing a mask could prevent colds and flu.

    We’d need large scale studies to see whether the widespread use of face masks decreases the incidence of colds and flu. But as I say I notice fewer people sneezing and coughing than was usual during flu seasons in the past.

    Where was the CDC and WHO on this before?

    Well there are many things they could do but they have an interest in people getting sick so they could peddle Big Pharma medicines.

  238. @anon

    Good that you got your treatments Sir and love the bit about the Appalachian’s.

  239. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Adûnâi

    Then how do you explain America or Germany, where people can fuck one another on a sidewalk? Where everything is allowed? Where people openly whore themselves out, smoke psychogenic drugs? Things so degenerate and chaotic, they would land you in a GULAG for sure in the USSR, let alone Juche Korea, where people still have some morals and restraint left.

    Re-read Brave New World (still the greatest of all dystopian novels). Huxley’s idea was that in a soft totalitarianism people will be given complete sexual freedom and unlimited access to drugs in exchange for giving up all political freedom.

    We can now see that Huxley was right. People would prefer sexual freedom to political freedom. Most people don’t give a rat’s ass about political freedom. It’s something that simply doesn’t interest them. They like being told how to think. But they do like sexual freedom.

    • Replies: @Adûnâi
  240. Adûnâi says: • Website
    @dfordoom

    > “Huxley’s idea was that in a soft totalitarianism people will be given complete sexual freedom and unlimited access to drugs…”

    WTF is “totalitarianism?” In your view? In Huxley’s? A buzzword used by transvestites hateful of any Order & Beauty, used to badmouth Communism and Nationalism.

    To me, totalitarianism is Islem, submission, boot-licking. But only the respected kind, the honourable kind, where the state protects its shills, and the hard-working bees get a decent Nation in return. See the DPR of Korea.

    > “…in exchange for giving up all political freedom.”

    Who removed your political freedom? You have the most armed civilian population on the planet! You fat Americans could have had decades and decades of interesting civil wars and political life. Who is barring you from that?

    But no, you are the most ape-political sum of individuals on the planet. You’re all anarchic! You care not about your politics or your future! You have two fat capitalist parties to choose from every 4 years, what a joke. Look at Syria! They have had one large election for 10 years straight! Spoilers – Bashar al-Assad won. Nobody can contest that. But everybody is free to try.

    > “Most people don’t give a rat’s ass about political freedom. It’s something that simply doesn’t interest them. They like being told how to think.”

    No, no, no. Every single person alive is deeply interested in politics. But I’m talking in 4 dimensions. The anarchic ape-politicals are dead. Their genes are not passed on. Those Rotherham rape gangs? Those Talib mujahideen? Those vicious masked Juche Koreans painting squirrels in the gardens of Pyongyang? Those are the future, and life, and glory!

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  241. @Commentator Mike

    Hasn’t anybody come up with makeup that looks like a mask?
    Or a tattoo?

  242. Adûnâi: “[Enforced conformity is typical of all societies] – except for Americans …”

    On the contrary, Jacques Ellul captured them perfectly when he wrote in The Technological Society that they are the most conformist society of all:

    It is needless to speak of the totalitarian frame of mind for which the exercise of sports paves the way. We constantly hear that the vital thing is “team spirit”, and so on. It is worth noting that technicized sport was first developed in the United States, the most conformist of all countries, and that it was then developed as a matter of course by the dictatorships, Fascist, Nazi, and Communist, to the point that it became an indispensable constituent element of totalitarian regimes.

    Sport is an essential factor in the creation of the mass man.
    – Jacques Ellul, The Technological Society, p.383

    The great HL Mencken, saw his countrymen similarly:

    The whole drift of our law is toward the absolute prohibition of all ideas that diverge in the slightest form from the accepted platitudes, and behind that drift of law there is a far more potent force of growing custom, and under that custom there is a natural philosophy which erects conformity into the noblest of virtues and the free functioning of personality into a capital crime against society.
    – H. L. Mencken, quoted in New York Times Magazine, 9 August 1964

    Adûnâi: “[Americans,] who are the only “nation” (if you can call them such a magnificent term) in the world which hates their state apparatus …”

    Americans often criticize their gov’t, that’s true. But you’re forgetting that when they do so, it’s always from the perspective of it not enforcing enough conformity to its ideal of equality. Case in point, the current protests. Case in point, the Civil War. And what is this dedication to manufacturing equality anyway, except a commitment to sameness; to the creation of the mass man?

    Adûnâi: “Then how do you explain America or Germany, where people can fuck one another on a sidewalk?”

    LOL! You have a fantasist’s idea of America. If such a thing were to happen at all, it would be highly illegal, and by its very rarity would demonstrate the generally conformist behavior of the citizenry.

  243. Vojkan says:
    @Astuteobservor II

    Inhaling less oxygen but inhaling back exhaled CO2, for a starter. Which also means less oxygen for the brain. Which explains the comments by the pro-mask brigade.

  244. @AaronB

    But I personally think we need to be sensitive to such people – a fear is no less paralyzing for being irrational. And we are all of us irrational – none of us are exempt. Perhaps those who pride themselves on being rational are especially susceptible to unreason, as we see, because they are unwilling to accept that they are human, but all of us are affected.

    Disagree! Those who rejected the coronavirus scam and are now rejecting the mask scam seem motivated less by rationality than by a distaste for BS and a predilection for calling a spade a spade.

    • Replies: @Anonymousse
  245. We must start referrng to them as CORONAVIRUS CONSPIRATORS! If they deny it, say, that that is a typicl reaction from people that are involved in a conspiracy. Confront them. Do not allow them to be comfortable with what they are doing! Disgrace them! They have earned it!

  246. @Commentator Mike

    You’re misinformed about “the young:”

    “Stanford Doc: COVID Fatality Rate For People Under 45 Is “Almost 0%”

    according to Stanford University’s disease prevention chairman Dr. John Ioannidis.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/stanford-doc-covid-fatality-rate-people-under-45-almost-0

    *******

    And, if interested, one can learn a great deal from this June 10/2020 article:

    “Coronavirus: Why everyone was wrong. The immune response to the virus is stronger than everyone thought.”

    The author, Beda M Stadler, is the former director of the Institute for Immunology at the University of Bern, a biologist and professor emeritus. Stadler is an important medical professional in Switzerland.

    Here’s a sampler:

    “2. The fairy tale of no immunity
    From the World Health Organisation (WHO) to every Facebook-virologist, everyone claimed this virus was particularly dangerous, because there was no immunity against it, because it was a novel virus. Even Anthony Fauci, the most important advisor to the Trump administration noted at the beginning at every public appearance that the danger of the virus lay in the fact that there was no immunity against it. Tony and I often sat next to each other at immunology seminars at the National Institute of Health in Bethesda in the US, because we worked in related fields back then. So for a while I was pretty uncritical of his statements, since he was a respectable colleague of mine. The penny dropped only when I realised that the first commercially available antibody test [for Sars-CoV-2] was put together from an old antibody test that was meant to detect Sars-1. This kind of test evaluates if there are antibodies in someone’s blood and if they came about through an early fight against the virus. [Scientists] even extracted antibodies from a Lama that would detect Sars-1, Sars-CoV-2, and even the Mers virus. It also became known that Sars-CoV-2 had a less significant impact in areas in China where Sars-1 had previously raged. This is clear evidence urgently suggesting that our immune system considers Sars-1 and Sars-Cov-2 at least partially identical and that one virus could probably protect us from the other.
    That’s when I realised that the entire world simply claimed that there was no immunity, but in reality, nobody had a test ready to prove such a statement. That wasn’t science, but pure speculation based on a gut feeling that was then parroted by everyone. To this day there isn’t a single antibody test that can describe all possible immunological situations, such as: if someone is immune, since when, what the neutralising antibodies are targeting and how many structures exist on other coronaviri that can equally lead to immunity.
    In mid-April work was published by the group of Andreas Thiel at the Charité Berlin. A paper with 30 authors, amongst them the virologist Christian Drosten. It showed that in 34 % of people in Berlin who had never been in contact with the Sars-CoV-2 virus showed nonetheless T-cell immunity against it (T-cell immunity is a different kind of immune reaction, see below). This means that our T-cells, i.e. white blood cells, detect common structures appearing on Sars-CoV-2 and regular cold viri and therefore combat both of them.
    A study by John P A Ioannidis of Stanford University — according to the Einstein Foundation in Berlin one of the world’s ten most cited scientists — showed that immunity against Sars-Cov-2, measured in the form of antibodies, is much higher than previously thought. Ioannidis is certainly not a conspiracy theorist who just wants to swim against the stream; nontheless he is now being criticised, because the antibody tests used were not extremely precise. With that, his critics admit that they do not have such tests yet. And aside, John P A Ioannidis is such a scientific heavy-weight that all German virologists combined are a light-weight in comparison.”

    https://medium.com/@vernunftundrichtigkeit/coronavirus-why-everyone-was-wrong-fce6db5ba809

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  247. Vojkan says:
    @Adûnâi

    “Americans, who are the only “nation” (if you can call them such a magnificent term) in the world which hates their state apparatus”

    Given the level of participation in elections held this June in France and Serbia, I am quite confident that Americans aren’t the only one. Besides, I think it is more a matter of mistrust than a matter of hate. Which is a reasonable attitude. You don’t trust proven liars.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  248. @David riskanalyst

    Hi, David riskanalyst.

    In light of your mathematical background as well as your comments about “Ferguson’s idiotic so-called model,” perhaps you’d enjoy a five part video series (“Epidemiology in the Dock”) by the British mathematician Andrew Mather, whose premise is that the premiere models of epidemic modelling, the SIR model & the SEIR model, are, themselves, “utterly and fatally flawed.”

    Here is the link to his YouTube page with the Videos:
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmFDE8P6_M-C4HTOuWwm4Dg/videos

    “Epidemiology in the Dock: Part 1 (19:09)”,
    “Epidemiology in the Dock: Part 2 (12:32)”,
    “Epidemiology in the Dock: Part 3 (26:30)”,
    “Epidemiology in the Dock: Part 4 (18:39)”,
    “Epidemiology in the Dock: Part 5 (25:02).”

  249. @TheTrumanShow

    I was trying to explain why the latest results show high infection rates but low death rates:

    These newer infections seem to be among younger people, probably due to the protesters and clubbers since the emergency was relaxed or them ignoring it, and among them the death rate is far lower, hence low death rates but high infection rates.

    So I wasn’t implying that death rates are high among the young, and yes, they’re probably immune.

    The data for UK sometime in April:

    Not quite 0% but very low.

  250. When you refuse to wear a mask, you are in effect saying to me, “I don’t give a damn about your health or safety.” OK, fine. I guess that’s your sacred right as an American. But I’ve got rights, too, asshole. I’m going to start saying “Fuck you, too!” to everyone I encounter who isn’t masked.
    I’ll start right here – you refuse to wear a mask in public? Fuck you, too!

    • Replies: @Anonymousse
    , @Leo
  251. @David riskanalyst

    Thank you, David, for that explanation of my point (along with the rest that was not something I’d thought about). For OneBornFree, yes, that was facetious, but due to my point that truly you can’t blame the programming language for that “researcher’s” screw-ups.

    I was facetious about my making a big deal about FORTRAN, but I do really respect it as a great number-crunching programming language, whether old and out of date now or not. (I don’t know.) Please keep writing, as that was just supposed to be a funny retort.

    By the way, David, I was very intrigued by your comment a week or so back regarding the truth-telling and lack of friends that come from that. You know you can put your web-site URL in the field Mr. Unz provides, right?

  252. @Astuteobservor II

    Unz really needs a “you must be this tall to comment” rule. Why are silly children here talking?

    Is fortnite down for corona too?

  253. @Macumazahn

    I’m going to go ahead and reveal that you’re actually not going to say a damn thing, with the possible exception of if you happen to be in a space crowded with other spaghetti arms like yourself.

    You MIGHT get out your phone and angrily call the local snitch line once you’re safely out of earshot, but that’s about it. That’s why snitch lines have been set up, even the wearers of the boots you lick know how impotent and frightened you are.

    • LOL: gsjackson
    • Replies: @Da's Reich
  254. @TheTrumanShow

    True enough, simply donning the obedience school muzzle now and then is no great inconvenience…

    Likewise you can tweet out Black Lives Matter and kneel for black men and shine their shoes, and say how brave it is when parents tell kids they’re trans, you can capitalize Black and not white, you can say diversity is our greatest strength, Islam is a religion of peace, Israel is our greatest ally… you can act supportive of the whole globohomo complex in a very few minutes a week and then get on with a comfortable lifestyle doing as you choose the rest of them time.

    If you don’t value your dignity or the truth highly it’s always easier to go along to get along. What’s the big deal? What does one person having integrity or trying to do what’s right accomplish. Standing up like a man does is hard and people will be mad at you and may unfriend you or not invite you to social events.

    Surely the truth is a small thing in comparison. We’ve had all our politicians and elites and a lot of regular people play along in just this fashion for a long time and what harm has it ever done us? BE SENSIBLE!

  255. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Adûnâi

    Who removed your political freedom? You have the most armed civilian population on the planet! You fat Americans could have had decades and decades of interesting civil wars and political life. Who is barring you from that?

    Anyone who thinks private gun ownership equals political freedom is deluded. It’s a silly right-wing fantasy. The government will alway have more and bigger guns.

    It’s also not a question of having political freedoms taken away. People give up their political freedoms voluntarily in exchange for shiny consumer goods, security and sexual freedom.

    Which is not necessarily irrational or wrong.

    One problem is that freedom is an emotionally loaded word. What does it actually mean? If it means the freedom to vote for either the Tweedledee Party or the Tweedledum Party then it’s largely worthless. Democracy is not the same thing as freedom. On the other hand if freedom means having legal rights – the right to a fair trial, the right to due process of law, freedom from the threat of arbitrary arrest – then it’s very worthwhile. People in the Anglosphere have been gradually giving up those rights in recent years and that’s very foolish.

    Freedom of thought is worth having. Freedom of speech is worth having. These are things that are also totally unrelated to democracy. On the other hand freedom of action is dangerous. In other words it’s a good thing to be able to think and say whatever you like but it’s not necessarily a good thing to be able to do whatever you like. Being able to do whatever you like is only a good thing up to a point.

    And it’s worth pointing out that it is very nice to have shiny consumer goods, it is very nice indeed to have security and sexual freedom (between consenting adults) is also pretty nice.

    A Brave New World-style soft totalitarianism is going to be very appealing to many people. Possibly to most people. A 1984-style hard totalitarianism is a different matter.

    And if you’re going to ask me to define soft and hard totalitarianism then OK. Hard totalitarianism is enforced by the boot in the face. Soft totalitarianism is achieved by persuading people that they’re getting a good deal, that they’re giving up certain freedoms in exchange for certain benefits, and it’s enforced by gentler methods than the boot in the face.

    I am not advocating soft totalitarianism, merely pointing out why the majority of the population is likely to accept it.

  256. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Vojkan

    Given the level of participation in elections held this June in France and Serbia, I am quite confident that Americans aren’t the only one. Besides, I think it is more a matter of mistrust than a matter of hate. Which is a reasonable attitude. You don’t trust proven liars.

    If you have representative democracy then it’s inevitable that people will mistrust and despise the government. Representative democracy is a system of political prostitution. All politicians in representative democracies are whores. That’s the whole basis of the system.

    What makes the U.S. unusual is that U.S. politicians are openly whores.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  257. @Anonymousse

    Exactly,

    Beaten dockets say nothing to anybody,

    I can’t wait for a mask wearer to admonish me for not wearing my muzzle,

    Loads of good little doggies around me being obedient,

    2-3 out of 10 people, max, can be relied upon.

  258. dfordoom says: • Website
    @dfordoom

    I ran out of time with the edit window. I intended to add:

    In most western countries the politicians are like high-class call girls. The distasteful business side of the transaction is handled discreetly and the rest of the transaction can be carried on in a civilised manner. If you try really hard you can almost convince yourself that the girl actually likes you and that she’s telling you the truth when she tells you how good you are in bed. You might even enjoy the experience.

    American politicians are cheap hookers open selling themselves on the street. There’s just no way you can convince yourself that the transaction isn’t sleazy and sordid. Afterwards you just want to take a shower.

  259. Keythong says:

    54. anon[402] is behaving like idiot/slave/enemy.

    All medical grade half face masks, at best, merely reduce down outgoing contagion, not stop it, especially poorer sealing, inadequate or no valve, folding ones. All passive face masks can be a significant respiratory hazard and cross infection hazard, from self and others, so should never be worn for long periods without breaks, and DIY fabric masks are worse than useless!

    Social distancing and all unsealed screening panels are ridiculously useless medical theatre too, because aerosols cannot be corralled like cattle; they merely treat people like cattle!

  260. Leo says:
    @Macumazahn

    why would you say that? masks don’t provide any health or safety.

  261. dfordoom: “The government will alway have more and bigger guns. ”

    Not necessarily. But in any case, it’s important to appreciate how technological “progress” has changed the situation from what it was in ancient times, or even as recently as 1776. At the time of the American revolution, both sides were working with essentially the same weaponry. But nowadays, there’s all kinds of weaponry that the government has and feels free to use against civilians that can’t be reciprocated. You and your buddies’ AR-15s and Glocks are not going to help you much against a Hellfire missile, tanks, napalm, or an Apache helicopter outfitted with miniguns. For this reason, white men can thank their own inventiveness and dedication to the ideals of “Western Civilization” for their current helplessness.

    dfordoom: “A Brave New World-style soft totalitarianism is going to be very appealing to many people. Possibly to most people. A 1984-style hard totalitarianism is a different matter.”

    A prominent feature of today’s totalitarianism is a 1984-style Anti-Sex League. This operates synergistically with the Puritanical view of sex fostered by Christianity, and now persists as Christianity’s cultural residue even among those who aren’t religious, or even consider themselves anti-Christian.

  262. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    it’s important to appreciate how technological “progress” has changed the situation from what it was in ancient times, or even as recently as 1776. At the time of the American revolution, both sides were working with essentially the same weaponry. But nowadays, there’s all kinds of weaponry that the government has and feels free to use against civilians that can’t be reciprocated. You and your buddies’ AR-15s and Glocks are not going to help you much against a Hellfire missile, tanks, napalm, or an Apache helicopter outfitted with miniguns.

    Yep. This is an obvious truth that too many people on the far right simply will not accept.

    A prominent feature of today’s totalitarianism is a 1984-style Anti-Sex League. This operates synergistically with the Puritanical view of sex fostered by Christianity, and now persists as Christianity’s cultural residue even among those who aren’t religious, or even consider themselves anti-Christian.

    Yes, I agree. It’s an American thing but they’re imposing it on everyone else. It leads to the bizarre mix of sexual Puritanism and sexual degeneracy that characterises modern America. All of the craziness of modern American culture is either a direct or indirect consequence of Puritanism. Puritanism is the sickest and most destructive of all Christian heresies.

    Once again this is something the far right seems incapable of grasping. The cultural sickness of America has a hell of a lot more to do with Christianity than with the Jews.

    • Agree: Erzberger, AaronB
  263. Catiline says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    A prominent feature of today’s totalitarianism is a 1984-style Anti-Sex League. This operates synergistically with the Puritanical view of sex fostered by Christianity, and now persists as Christianity’s cultural residue even among those who aren’t religious, or even consider themselves anti-Christian.

    I’m glad you said that. I’m puzzled why so many people fail to perceive this.

  264. Catiline: “I’m glad you said that. I’m puzzled why so many people fail to perceive this.”

    The fish doesn’t perceive the water he swims in; or as Ellul put it, when a propaganda has triumphed completely, it disappears from view as propaganda. Then it becomes the normal, replacing whatever existed before with itself. Christianity conquered the West so completely and uprooted paganism so thoroughly that nothing remains in the culture that opposes it. There are only various Christian heresies, some of which, like Marxism, that accept the Christian moral outlook on the so-called “brotherhood of man”, but relegate belief in Jesus to an optional accessory, or even oppose it. Gone with paganism is the white man’s primeval joyousness, his celebration of himself as depicted in the sculptures of ancient Rome and Greece. Gone is his sensuality and love of life; gone his love of victory; gone his pride. He learned from Christianity to despise himself, be ashamed of sex, and look forward to death.

    • Disagree: Emslander
    • Thanks: Catiline
  265. Miro23 says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Gone with paganism is the white man’s primeval joyousness, his celebration of himself as depicted in the sculptures of ancient Rome and Greece. Gone is his sensuality and love of life; gone his love of victory; gone his pride. He learned from Christianity to despise himself, be ashamed of sex, and look forward to death.

    Yes, but late in the day Imperial Roman paganism was famously sleazy and corrupt, and it came to define “bread and circuses”. When societies reach that stage of Imperial self awareness they seem to be approaching the end.

    He learned from Christianity to despise himself, be ashamed of sex, and look forward to death.

    This is a characteristic of late stage “Imperial” Christianity. In the early days, the Christian minority in pagan Rome were known for their high ethical standards personally and in business, with none of the later church institutionalized pathologies (Ref. Robin Lane-Fox’s difficult but fascinating book: “Pagans and Christians”). Christianity was the foundation of modern Europe (transnational/written language – Latin) and provided Europe with enough unity to defeat the Islamic invasions from the South (and actually re-conquer the Iberian peninsula – los Reyes Catolicos).

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  266. Zone 23 was a terrific book with all sorts of great insights into the GloboCap monster.

    When can we hope for another book from you?

  267. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    He learned from Christianity to despise himself, be ashamed of sex, and look forward to death.

    There’s a depressing amount of truth in that.

  268. Emslander says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    People who think Christians hate themselves and hate sex have no idea what Christianity is. I am a healthy virile Christian male who has loved life, my wife and all my children and thank God for the immense pleasures he’s given us in married sexuality. I don’t know what or who you are, but I’m pretty sure you couldn’t possibly enjoy sex more than I have in my long and spectacular life.

    • Thanks: Anonymousse
    • Replies: @Sya Beerens
  269. @Emslander

    ‘Christianity’ not Muslims I mean Christian people….

  270. Polemos says:
    @Richard B

    How is he ruining his reputation? What does he do that does so?

  271. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Miro23

    Yes, but late in the day Imperial Roman paganism was famously sleazy and corrupt,

    Was it really? I’m sure there was a huge amount of decadence among the rich and powerful and they’re the only Romans we really know about since they’re the ones that Roman writers were interested in writing about. But among ordinary people, and especially in the countryside, how much sleaze and corruption was there?

    A point of comparison would be the Weimar Republic, notorious as the most decadent society ever. But wasn’t the Weimar decadence mostly a Berlin thing?

    History usually doesn’t tell us all that much about the lives of ordinary people and it’s a particular problem with the classical world, with so few surviving sources. For most Romans it’s unlikely that life was anything like Tiberius’s lifestyle on Capri.

  272. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    You and your buddies’ AR-15s and Glocks are not going to help you much against a Hellfire missile, tanks, napalm, or an Apache helicopter outfitted with miniguns. For this reason, white men can thank their own inventiveness and dedication to the ideals of “Western Civilization” for their current helplessness.

    Exactly. This is why the US quickly won decisive victories in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Vietnam. Technology is what wins wars.

  273. Anonymousse: “Exactly. This is why the US quickly won decisive victories in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Vietnam. Technology is what wins wars.”

    The American Indians probably realize this by now. Worked pretty well against Japan too.

    Also, it depends on how you define “victory”. Sometimes the victory to be had in a protracted conflict is, from a certain perspective, the enrichment of the military/industrial complex. Then, the longer it lasts and the more it costs, the better. Or from a geopolitical perspective, victory can consist of establishing a presence in the form of an occupying army controlling resources. Then, the longer you stay, the better. Lots of ways to define victory.

  274. Emslander: “People who think Christians hate themselves and hate sex have no idea what Christianity is. I am a healthy virile Christian male who has loved life, my wife and all my children and thank God for the immense pleasures he’s given us in married sexuality. I don’t know what or who you are, but I’m pretty sure you couldn’t possibly enjoy sex more than I have in my long and spectacular life.”

    Jesus said that you should hate your life. But then, what did he know about Christianity? He never married or had children, so don’t take him as a role model.

    25 Anyone who loves their life will lose it, while anyone who hates their life in this world will keep it for eternal life.
    – John 12:25

    Also, John the Evangelist wrote in 1 John:

    15 Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, love for the Father[d] is not in them. 16 For everything in the world—the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life—comes not from the Father but from the world. 17 The world and its desires pass away, but whoever does the will of God lives forever.
    – 1 John:15-17

    But he’s obviously another guy who had no idea what Christianity is. Your version of Christianity seems less grim. People should follow your example, not Jesus’. That’s “real” Christianity.

    • Replies: @anon
  275. Adûnâi says: • Website
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Beautifully written as always, Dr. Robert Morgan! Do you think the incarnate Fourth Reich will resemble the nightmare of Chechar’s dreams? The Return of Quetzalcoatl – but not as a metaphor for the muddening of the fair race, oh no! The Feathered Serpent as the God resurrected that tears out the beating hearts atop the impossible granite sculpture of New Germania! What else can bring the Sun of the Aryan race back into the Sky from the Underworld, but a great torrent of blood gushing from the sacrificial Ziggurat?

    It will not resemble those harmonious futures predicted up to the 1970s.

  276. anon[386] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    16 For everything in the world—the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life—comes not from the Father but from the world. 17 The world and its desires pass away, but whoever does the will of God lives forever.
    – 1 John:15-17

    i’m not a Christian but there seems to be some truth to that first sentence especially

  277. bunky says:
    @animalogic

    The average tidal lung capacity of a human is about 1/2 a litre.
    When you wear your mask do you think the mask absorbs all that at 20 – 30 times per minute?

  278. @Curmudgeon

    But one thing we know from the millions of survivors is that wearing the bit of cloth ensures you don’t die.

  279. orionyx says:
    @Polymath

    It’s Taleb, not Talib.

    Please show us how to distinguish between the two spellings in the original Arabic?
    Or does your pedantry not stretch that far?

  280. Steven80 says:
    @David riskanalyst

    This is a typical groupthink – you dared to chalenge an established narrative and everyone was playing blind and deaf to you signs.

    But it was the same with Epstein – the groupthink was making people socialize with him because other famous people were in his company. Than the groupthink changed, and everyone behaves as they didn’t know him.

    So imagine the narrative changes, I’m sure suddenly many people will remember your backyard.

    Once I read an essay by Solzhenitsyn, where he was sayin that the West is ruled by groupthink. It was hard for me to beleive it was true. Now, after many years, I have no doubts. This is the real reason for the media power.

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