
The 2024 Nobel Prize in Economics was awarded to Daron Acemoglu, James Robinson, and Simon Johnson for their work on the economic and political factors that determine why some nations achieve wealth and stability while others fall into poverty and chaos.
Acemoglu and Robinson published their work in a book titled “Why Nations Fail: The Origins of Power, Prosperity, and Poverty” in 2012. According to the Nobel committee, this work has become a cornerstone in economic literature, offering a compelling analysis of the drivers of economic success and failure.
Daron Acemoglu was an economics professor from MIT and James Robinson a professor of government from Harvard.
The thesis of the book is quite straightforward: nations with “inclusive” economic and political institutions, defined as rule of law, democratic participation, political pluralism, will succeed; nations with “extractive” system, run by a self-serving ruling elite, will fail.
In their analysis, geography, history, culture, and natural resources are not key drivers of a nation’s destiny. Rather, political institutions and behavior of ruling class largely determine the economic success or failure of a nation.
While hardly a revolutionary theory (it dovetails perfectly with the Washington Consensus, fashionable back then), the book went to a lot of length to analyze numerous nations to make an empirical argument.
The book was published with lots of fanfare with glowing endorsements from no less than 6 Nobel laureates in economics from Kenneth Arrow to Michael Spence, the New York Times, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, and BBC.
Francis Fukuyama and Niall Ferguson, two US and British imperial scholars respectively, obligingly lauded the book, in which both countries came out as exemplary nations with “inclusive” systems. The US succeeded as a result of inheriting the colonial institutions bestowed by the British.
Why Nations Fail was shortlisted for the Financial Times and Goldman Sachs business book of the year award 2012.
I read the book shortly after the publication since the authors spent quite some time analyzing China and contrasting with the US. I found they had very little original insights and merely recycled western stereotype caricature of China while their praise for the US somewhat unwarranted. I soon forgot the book.
If this is just another book that doesn’t age well, no one would have noticed, and I won’t be writing about it. After all, it’s par for the course for “social science” books to echo the ethos of the time when they were published. They are often dead wrong and people move on to the next shiny object.
However, 12 years after the publication of the book, the esteemed Nobel economics committee decided to award the authors the Nobel prize for this work.
So I re-read the book and did some research on what others thought about it when it first came out. I found my original impression of the book was validated and there were serious critiques, most presciently from Ron Unz of Unz Review. Let me dwell into this.
Robinson and Acemoglu analyzed the economic institutions and performance of numerous countries in the book. As the major economies of the world, China and the US were given special attention.
The authors used China and the US as the examples of what they characterized as “extractive” vs. “inclusive” systems.
They argued that China was destined to fail as it had an extractive economic system run by a venal, self serving elite. On the other hand, the US would win with its inclusive, democratic system run by rule of law, democratic check and balances, and broad citizen participation in decision making.
The Chinese system was described as closed from competition, incapable of innovation, and run by corrupt authoritarian leaders. Robinson and Acemoglu contended China’s economic performance to date (at the 2012 publication date), while impressive, was unsustainable and would falter.
They stated the US economic system thrived on creative destruction as the inclusive institutions encourage competition, reward innovation, and provide opportunities for new entrants into the market. The authors argued that the U.S.’s success was not due to geography, culture, or natural resources, but rather its inclusive institutions and an elite that work to advance the interests of the population.
13 years after the publication of the book, you have to wonder what planet Robinson and Acemoglu lived on when they wrote the book and what kind of ideological blindness has led the Nobel economics committee to award the prestigious prize to them.
Bear in mind the book was published in 2012 – four years after the 2008 financial crisis when “extractive” Wall Street elite gave the world the subprime crisis and Obama bailed out the financial masters of universe at the expense of high street.
Robinson and Acemoglu continued to use the US as the paragon of inclusive economic system and got glowing endorsements from other economic luminaries. This complete detachment from reality shows the intellectual bankruptcy of mainstream western economists.
It was one thing for honest scholars to write a book with such an ideological bent in the hay days of Washinton Consensus and maybe even win the Nobel prize pre-2008 but it truly boggles the mind for Robinson and Acemoglu to propose such a thesis in 2012 and win Nobel prize in 2024 when empirical data and facts have proven their analysis wrong. Neoliberals like Jake Sullivan openly admitted the Washington Consensus junk economics was the root cause for the deindustrialization and weakening of the US in a 2023 speech at the Brookings Institute.
13 years later, it is clear that the Chinese leadership, rather than the self serving and “extractive” elite described by the authors, are meritocratic and effective. The country has made enormous progress since then and now enjoys one of the most competitive economies and is a world class innovator.
On the other hand, the label of being “extractive” seems to fit the US much better with its stagnant wages for the 99% and staggering concentration of wealth to the 1%, high inflation and indebtedness, crumbling healthcare and infrastructure, and a political system dominated by moneyed special interests.
Contrary to Robinson and Acemoglu’s argument, China’s political system is much more inclusive than the US – 75% of the 37 most senior leaders (members of the Politburo Standing Committee) since 1990 come from working class background while there are 13 billionaires in Trump administration’s senior ranks. The Communist Party of China has nearly 100 million members.
China’s economic system is also much more inclusive than the US – 65% of GDP in China goes to household income vs. less than 50% in the US. The Chinese working class enjoys rising wages, low inflation, improving healthcare and education, and world class infrastructure.
In the “extractive” Chinese system, the government has capped bankers’ bonus, reduced government employees’ salary, and sentenced corrupt officials to the death row.
On the other hand, the “inclusive” US system has witnessed millions cheering the killing of the United Healthcare CEO. Nancy Pelosi has an ETF fund that specifically mirrors her stock portfolio and achieves returns far above the best money managers. And tech oligarchs literally buy presidency and act as puppet masters.
While mainstream economists and commentators heaped compliments to the book, Ron Unz of Unz Review wrote a brilliant critique of the book when it was first published in 2012. China’s Rise, America’s Fall, by Ron Unz – The Unz Review
Ron pointed out Chinese government’s poverty alleviation efforts, the innovations from Huawei, China’s high speed rail program, and improving standards of living among average Chinese citizens as counter examples of Acemoglu and Robinson’s “extractive” characterization.
Ron also pointed out the income inequality, political capture by corporate oligarchs, and lack of democratic participation in war decisions as clear examples that contravene Acemoglu and Robinson’s rosy depiction of the US’s “inclusive” system.
While arguing against the “extractive” label on China, Ron correctly pointed out China was beset by serious issues with pollution, inequality, housing bubble, and corruption. Interestingly, when President Xi Jinping ascended to the top leadership role in 2013, he specifically went after the issues identified by Ron – extensive crackdown on corruption and pollution, common prosperity push, bursting of the housing bubble, and reining in tech monopolies. Hardly the behavior of “extractive” ruling elite.
Read my article on the subject 10 Achievements of Xi Jinping. https://huabinoliver.substack.com/p/10-achievements-of-xi-jinping-598
Looking back, Ron was prescient in his critique and proven completely right in his analysis.
Clearly Why Nations Fail has not aged well. While the thesis in theory seems to make sense – an economy will only prosper in an inclusive economic and political system, the authors’ analysis and prediction about China and US are completely wrong.
It is hardly news that academics in ivory towers, especially of the “social science” variety, are seldom right about the real world. The amazing thing is that the Nobel economics committee, with 20/20 hindsight, still awarded the prize to such failed work. The power of denial and the instinct to conform to an ideological narrative is truly boundless.

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Obviously the Nobel (or any ‘prize’) says more about the givers than the recipient. And of course with Nobel, it’s been hit or miss:
Peace–Obama and Kissinger, et.al.
Literature has always been a (mostly) trendy/political toss up (although Zimmerman’s Prize was ironically funny–first, he didn’t write ‘literature’, and second, his quite accurate depiction of women–especially on Highway 61 Revisited–was conveniently ‘overlooked’, otherwise he would have been ‘cancel cultured’).
Even the ‘hard’ stuff depends. Shockley would never have won the Prize if the Committee had known of his views on race.
Economic ‘analysis’ of China is all over the place. Who can take much of it seriously? Within the general West, you have what I call the Zerohedge Antinomy. That is, holding rather contradictory views that would necessarily cancel themselves out, if confronted as a whole.
Some examples:
Thesis: China’s economy is getting ready to implode. Don’t know when it will happen–it might be tomorrow or the day after, or it might have already happened but the news hasn’t hit, yet– but it will definitely happen.
Anti-thesis: China’s economy is our number one strategic concern, and the West must counter it by a total restructuring of its own economy, by way of sanctions, tariffs, and military threats.
Thesis: The only reason China has anything, is that ‘we’ gave it to them, or they stole it from us.
Anti-thesis: an advanced infrastructure including high speed rail and state of the art aqueduct water transference to desert areas; affordable electric vehicles; the expected launch of 6G networking; an advanced space program without ‘stranded’ astronauts; … That is, in order to steal something, it has to exist in the first place to steal.
Thesis: All we can afford to buy on our declining wages is cheap junk made in China, at Walmart. I’m not buying that stuff anymore.
Anti-thesis: With all these tariffs, prices at Walmart are through the roof. How can I buy all the stuff I need?
Thesis: “Honey, after 20 years of marriage, I’m divorce raping you, taking the house and car, half your retirement, and turning your first-born male child into a tranny.”
Anti-thesis: “I’m 40, divorced, overweight and can’t get a date anymore because of these Asian imports. Why do so many men have Rice Fever? And why are those women so slender and feminine. And why aren’t they tatted up, like most American women?”
And so on… But, as the old saying goes, the proof is in the pudding. And time will tell all.
Cause and effect may be reversed. A prosperous economy may produce an “open” social welfare oriented society, while a declining one produce a controlled openly oligarchic one.
While I don’t always agree with everything you write, I find that this hits the mark squarely. My only quibble is that our extractive elite are not “detached from reality” and “intellectually bankrupt” as you put it. They are all too well aware of the lopsided effects of their economic and social policies. Impoverishing the middle class is the goal and they use every intellectual tool at their disposal to accomplish this.
Morgenthau Planning America is intentional. They are motivated by a great hatred towards White-European people. You are fortunate in ways you cannot imagine in that your nation is led by your own people, people with whom you can identify with as family. One need only read what America’s Jewish intellectuals themselves have written in expressing their opinion of America’s people to see the cause of our misfortune. It is not hidden. They advertise it openly. And if we complain, then that too is counted against us—indeed, it is now illegal to voice concern over their intentions towards us and treatment of us.
One mistake you are making is in assuming that the America you see today is the one you will be dealing with forever. Once the Jews leave America for greener pastures, then our native talent in engineering and science shall reassert itself and we shall take our rightful position as world leader. This may take fifty years. By then, they may have taken up residence in your country and you will feel the effects as you watch your technical expertise evaporate, your honored social norms dragged through the mud and your quality of life decline. Don’t laugh. They need a prosperous nation in which to work their grift and if you continue on your present trajectory, you will be the next candidate.
If any nation in the world is run by and for an ‘extractive elite’ it is the USA, which is the global exemplar par excellence of such a system.
If any nation on earth is ‘inclusive’ then it is the PRC, which has lifted more human beings out of grinding poverty than any state in recorded history – or forever, as it happens.
The truth happens to be the exact diagrammatic opposite of the shit peddled by Acemoglu and Robinson. They should be given the ignoble prize for barefaced brazen lying, more like.
They no good. They sha-sha-sha.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hp1ezvi2ylk
6G? SIX!
They’ll fry their brains soon and then the question will be moot.
The white West proves exactly the opposite– “extractive” system made the West an economic success. Britain’s greatness was built on its extraction from its colonies– in particular, India. France and Germany too, was built on their extractions from Africa. The success of white Amelika, of course, was made possible by the labour, sweat, blood, dignity and dead bodies of Black slaves! The extraction from the non-white world served both the ruling elites and ordinary people in the white countries well!
https://www.rt.com/africa/590523-reparations-africa-herero-namaqua-genocide/
No wonder that the authors of the book won a Nobel Prize for its propaganda value.
The Nobel Prize is a farce.
The economics one is not even a Nobel but a fake “Nobel memorial” prize
handed out by the Swedish central bank (Rijksbank) so yes …
And they win every electiion, too. How can anyone argue with that?
The projection is really striking – and projection is the characteristic defense mechanism of assholes. The Nobel spokesmodels are right about institutional factors in state collapse but they’re afflicted with hysterical blindness to the CIA impunity regime that corrupts every vital civil institution. They performed poignant national pride in the rubble of the greatest financial crime in history, the Fed’s illegal refusal to resolve bankrupt banks resulting in $27 trillion looted from the fisc.
And like all US-indoctrinated economists, no one teaches them what words mean. States fail when they cannot or will not protect populations under their control from the gravest crimes. Like the crimes against humanity of systematic and widespread torture (“enhanced interrogation,”) murder (“drones,”) and medical experimentation (“safe & effective,”) and the crimes against peace and security of undeclared war by illegal means inter alia sabotage, assassination of legally inviolable diplomatic personnel, torture, bombardment of civilians, banned biological weapons use, extermination and genocide. The CIA impunity regime is a classic failed state.
US economists are autistic wankers tinkering with fantasy wish-fulfillment daydreams they call models. It makes sense that they’re from MIT and Harvard because these are the two main statist indoctrination apparats for glib or numerate people of a pushing temperament. And to think they used to call Harvard the “oldest, richest, freest” educational institution. Now it’s Trump University with no Trump, the place they send Petreaus to fuck co-eds. MIT is just a beltway bandit with cheap wetback labor.
the nobels in general have always been a eurocentric circle jerk. witness their use as “proof” of jewish superiority over the moslem darkies in any scum right discussion. also go back and track whether past winners and their “revelations” have panned out. finding a new prime number that might cure malaria or whatever sounds impressive in 1995 but where’s it at now?
what stands out for me is that they had to go back over a decade to find something “worth” awarding. i guess their personal juries are out on NFTs, crypto and all the other ponzi schemes waiting to blow up the western house of cards.
From Ron Unz’s 2012 article, “China’s Rise, America’s Fall”
The process that has just got worse to the present day. When does RU get his Nobel prize for his work on “Extractive Elites”?
I think that they’ve been trying but have found that the Chinese gates are closed. In other words, media ownership, central banking, education, political parties, corporate ownership, internet etc.
Also Jews are mostly ethnic European and easily pass for Europeans. Not the case in China. There’s no confusing them with ethnic Chinese.
The Nobel prize in economics is always a joke. They print pictures on worthless pieces of paper and then use the force of law to make people accept it as if it were real money. Then, manipulating interest rates and their easy access to the printing press, they use this worthless tree pulp to buy up valuable assets and extort society wholesale. Charging usurous interest rates on “money” that didn’t exist until they created it from nothing to “lend” it to people.
May as well give economic prizes to street grifters and Ponzi schemers too
Its DNA dude.
They do copy and mimic and steal Western man’s inventions there’s no denying that xyzxy! High speed rail, aqueduct water transfer, electric vehicles, 6G telecommunications networking, a space program using rocket engines, the integrated circuit, etc, etc were all primary inventions by men of European Western lineage dolt. And if you want prove me wrong and I’ll tell you them men, places, dates were these primary inventions happened, not a problem. So don’t tell me there so damn smart because for along time the Orientals sent their kids to our Western schools of higher learning and we taught them say for example, “electrical science,” which back in say the mid-19th century an oriental would not even know what Voltage or EMF was. Thank you Alassandro Volta.
Don’t forget child trannies, the most important Western man’s invention.
I often think that since Nobel prizes are given out to people for economics, there should also be one given out for meteorology. The weatherman is quite often wrong and the economist is almost always wrong. The Nobel Prize for Meteorology could be given to the weatherman or weathergirl who gives the most accurate weather reports for a specific period of time, like a month.
There’s no doubt that meteorology is a real science with lots of math and physical theories that have been proven. The main reason that the weather forecast is not always true, is due to the complexity and unpredictability of the models that cause weather. Compare this to economics, some people consider it to be a science, but many do not. It’s more of a study of human actions that affect money, it really should be a branch of psychology. As with psychology, human actions are not very predictable, you can only look at trends. The mathematical models must be based on general trends and are not particularly accurate because humans are not mathematically predictable.
alfred nobel was a “pacifist”, who owned 90 armament factories. how can anything but hypocrisy, come from a committee funded by his blood money?
“Even the ‘hard’ stuff depends. Shockley would never have won the Prize if the Committee had known of his views on race.”
Shockley won the Nobel Prize with Bardeen and Brattain in 1956, his publications about racial intelligence didn’t start until the late 60’s. It took someone like him from the hard sciences to lift the veil from the emperor’s new clothes and tell the truth about racial differences. He was roundly condemned and harassed by leftists at the time, but he would be satisfied to see the trends today that DEI is dying and the world of science is moving towards proving him right.
“The white West proves exactly the opposite– “extractive” system made the West an economic success. Britain’s greatness was built on its extraction from its colonies– in particular, India. France and Germany too, was built on their extractions from Africa. The success of white Amelika, of course, was made possible by the labour, sweat, blood, dignity and dead bodies of Black slaves! The extraction from the non-white world served both the ruling elites and ordinary people in the white countries well!”
Now here we have someone who goes to far in the other direction and sounds like a moron. The European countries took resources from their colonies (that the natives considered to be junk) and processed them and turned them into items that the natives coveted. The natives of those colonies were incapable of figuring out how to create these useful products themselves, they needed the white man to do it for them. Now you hate the white man regardless of the fact that you enjoy all his creations and you would starve to death or freeze to death if you didn’t have them.
As far as the black slaves were concerned, regardless of whether their labor was being utilized or not in the US, the country was still basically poor with or without them. It wasn’t until the Industrial Revolution and the invention of the steam engine that saw the enormous creation of wealth that happened in the Victorian era.
I wish I could believe that the trashing of DEI would in any way lead to the advancement of science.
As it is, I have NO fear that said trashing will do ANY harm to science.
Your comparison is quite sound.
“…just another book that doesn’t age well”- yeah exactly, their twelve-year old stereotypical description of China doesn’t match the quite obvious current reality of China thus those two MIT and Harvard so-called “economists” are at best just propagandists who knew they were lying at the very beginning and at worst ignorant idiots (of course, one can always reverse what the best and worst is but I’ll prefer to have lying propagandist as a professor instead of an ignorant idiot since if I have to pay taxes I’ll rather support a prof that, at least, has some grounding in reality) yet they got the 2025 Nobel Prize. Sceeech the Western elite has gone plum loco. As Stan Lee stated in a different context; “nuff said”.
The Morgenthau Plan was meant for Germany but who thwarted it?
Churchill and Stimson were able to keep Morgenthau’s lunatic plan from being implemented. So it’s the Brits and Yanks who are getting what Judea wanted to do to the Germans in 1945. It really shows. People going to New York or London already know.
Cause, effect. There are some people you just can’t say no to.
Interesting article by Party member Bin.
China isn’t doing so well, actually.
It’s literally on fire. These fires are huge, certain to upset china’s pristine air quality.
There are similar factory fires every day now in china. Upper CCP members are filthy rich, just like good little monopoly capitalists.
Workers of the World… ignite.
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“Old Nobelists´Syndrome” is a thing – plenty laureates have felt entitled –
and were widely accepted – to pontificate on things outside their original
field (e.g. Svante Arrhenius on climate change).
Economics is not science (Marx, being very full of himself, of course could
not resist playing the stock exchange and was permanently
negerbroke) –this particular piece is on a level with Diversity is Strength ™ .
Alfred Nobel valiantly tried to atone for what others did with his invention
(unlike, say, Hiram Maxim) – I would not equate that with USian robber barons
founding art galleries in their name when they see the Reaper beckoning.
Black slaves were used as farm workers in the Deep South. They picked cotton and peas, they didn’t build anything. There were very few blacks in the industrial North, in most cases less than 1%. The use of slaves in the South is what held the South back from industrializing. Large plantations, with low cost labor, (slaves), prevented innovation and competition.
A Romanian scientist, Nicolae Paulescu, discovered insulin before Banting, Macleod and Best but he wrote some antisemitic articles so, of course, the Nobel went to the Canadians in 1923 (anyways Macleod didn’t deserve it but got the prize, Best did but he didn’t get the prize-go figure).
The Uniparty wins every election in the US too but at least thank God they are not an extractive, corrupt elite according to the latest Nobel laurates-whew.
For a start there is NO Nobel Prize for economics. It’s made up, and a sick Western propaganda joke, like the the actual Nobel Piss Prize, which mostly rewards Imperial bosses and arse-lickers.
This one is a doozy, as the author says, the exact opposite of the truth, agit-prop driven by Western race hatred and Rightwing delusions of universal and eternal Western ‘liberal’ superiority. Pure tripe, then as now. But more grist to the Sinophobic mill.
True dat, but that leaves the question: what causes prosperity?
Race, without cohesion, doesn’t seem to be the answer. See China’s 100 years of humiliation. Even Mao’s totalitarian consolidation produced only marginally better results, if that. Only Deng’s race + cohesion + ordered economic liberalization seemed to do the trick.
The U.S. enjoyed a similar situation after the Civil War/Reconstruction period. The seeds of decay were planted after WWII, ‘flowered’ in the 1960s, and are bearing their rotten fruit today. It remains to be seen whether Trump can reverse that, but I doubt it. Will China follow down the prosperity-to-decadence pipeline? Low fertility seems an ominous leading indicator.
Watch for grooming mice!
What a fucking MORON. Arrhenius was speaking to his expertise, and in utilising it, correctly predicted the increased warming at higher latitudes. Where’d you get that one, knuckle-dragger? FoxNews or Skynews, perhaps. Even as climate destabilisation accelerates, you insect death-worshippers grow ever more fanatically deranged.
His name is Hua, you lying racist piece of shit. Your lies are just about the last field where the USA is still Number One, that and kiddy porn, Fentanyl o/ds, bridge collapses, homeless populations, school shootings and cocaine consumption.
But things like high speed rail and rocket engines etc. are so generic now you are not really copying, you are basically designing new, improved versions of things that no longer have a patent. It’s like if a truck company designs a new diesel engine-are you copying German technology? No, diesel engines were originally a German invention but they are now part and parcel of 21st tech open to anyone. Likewise, if you decide to develop a space program are you open to being sued by the Russians? Of course not, Russians developed space travel but space travel is now open to all. China stagnated in the 19th and 20th centuries while the West boomed so, of course, China is making use of useful technology developed in the West like everyone else but along with that China is developing new technology-the West will eventually make use and develop improved versions of future Chinese technology.
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Well, I personally don’t know anyone who
studies (or even pays for) the WaPo or NYT
every day. But I know of billions of people
who consume “Judentube” on a daily basis.
https://occidentaldissent.com/2025/03/18/who-controls-the-media-now/
The Nobel Prize might as well be renamed The Rothschild Prize, given its alignment with globalist interests. It seems that those who curry favor with the global elite—or provide them with ideological support—are often rewarded with this prestigious honor across various categories. These globalists, who champion private ownership of resources, means of production, and labor, find themselves at odds with systems that advocate for public ownership of these same factors. Such alternative models, like those implemented in countries such as China, stand in stark contrast to the principles upheld by the Nobel establishment.
“Extraction” is too soft a word – it may imply the Europeans actually took the resources with the permission of the locals – which they didn’t. They actually looted, robbed, killed, enslaved, sold opium, started wars, genocided the natives, stole the technologies and sciences from ancient China, etc…
Plus the stolen lands from Native American, the hard works of Chinese coolies, the war profits from others, the petrol-dollars, ….
There is no such thing as a Nobel for economics.
Hey, delusional Chinaman…
China succeeded because the round eye created the modern world.
China inherited all that colonial Britain and the U.S. built, the modern world.
China alone could not create the modern world in 100 or 10000 years.
Nobel prizes? Pulitzer prizes? Oscars? Emmys? Grammys? All controlled to reward the tragic status quo! To the same clowns controlling the finance and media. The sodomites in Tel Aviv!
LOL!
Economic success on a national level is often no different than economic success on a personal level. Connections and subservience are rewarded, actual value is secondary, if considered at all.
For me, the following accurate description says it all:
“On the other hand, the label of being “extractive” seems to fit the US much better with its stagnant wages for the 99% and staggering concentration of wealth to the 1%, high inflation and indebtedness, crumbling healthcare and infrastructure, and a political system dominated by moneyed special interests.”
Thanks for the perceptive analysis of the said book.
Daron Acemoglu, James Robinson, and Simon Johnson, professors at MIT and Harvard. Without doing any research on these three geniuses, I feel confident that none of them had a job outside academia.
That brings the puzzling question; with such fellows in charge at the U.S.’s most prestigious universities, why would students line up, compete and pay exorbitant tuitions to earn degrees from such institutions.
Could it be that in the West it is all about imagery and make belief?
The Ivory Towers and many professors who dwell therein,
are largely owned by the corporate establishment.
Professors are adequately paid, but if you can snag an
endowed chair in economics, history or “holocaust
studies,” you’ve hit the jackpot and your books will find
a publisher and be reviewed by the NYT.
And, speaking of Nobel, Sweden and the overall corruption
of academia, let’s search for the next Linnaeus to classify
the vast array of University whores and sycophants who
have abandoned their integrity for money and prestige.
Listen, you fruit, your combination of race hatred and pig ignorance suits you like a second (or is it third or so, seeing as you shed them as you grow) skin. Just watch the Chinese go-they’re already far ahead of you, and the gap is widening.
Forty-five trillion from India alone, killing hundreds of millions in the process.
You are an ignorant moron. China grew rapidly under Mao, repairing the damage of a century of civil war, foreign invasion, genocide and imperialism, and establishing the basis for the later economic leap. They built China’s first autos, trains, rockets etc, established a steel industry, built roads and railways, started a nuclear industry, built A-bombs and H-bombs, ended snail fever, reduced illiteracy to the lowest levels in Chinese history, emancipated women for the first time in Chinese history, liberated Tibet from vile theocratic terror, extended life expectancy from less than forty to seventy etc, etc. Fucking eejits!
Excellent points, xyz… the whole thing is a fraud. It seems to have been captured, I am convinced, from its very inception.
There are of course “deserved” Nobel prizes; few in literature and probably none in Peace (though technically, Peace and Economics are award by different institutions).
I think the whole circus has been exclusively used to promote a zio-centric agenda. Some of the science prizes are given in order to lend the prestige from that part of the organization to the political hacks who win the ‘soft’ prizes. Though I believe the science prizes are also selected to reflect the distinct organizational orientation.
One of the most telling aspects of this is how the soft prizes, far from reflecting some “Swedish Academy of Sciences” with all of what might be supposed quirkinesses, actually reflect 100% of a US, zio-centric world view and attitudes.
I was astounded to determine recently that Leo Tolstoy, was still alive in the first six years of the existence of the prize but was never awarded it. The only concession was that in the year of Tolstoy’s death, no Literature prize was awarded.
What would have cause such an obvious slight on the part of “the Academy?” Wasn’t this the time of the great vilification of Tsarist Russia which lead directly to the Russian Revolution a few years later? That propaganda being directly analogous to its recent re-vilification by the same actors.
Gandhi, Pope John Paul II, and many other notable figures never getting the prize, while hacks like Dylan being awarded shows directly the use of the prize as a tool to shape western public opinion.
The case of Bob Dylan is a particularly indicative and symbolic award. Having awarded the “peace prize” to Bob Geldof in the past, for those benefit concerts in the 1980s the comparable person today is of course Roger Waters, for his dedication to the Palestinian people.
But “the Swedish Academy” was not created for the purpose of really rewarding great achievements. Its purpose is solely to function as a propaganda vehicle, putting the spotlight on some and leaving others in the dark.
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This assessment was probably largely correct at the time the authors made their observations, prior to 2012, and before China’s current dear leader Xi Jinping took power, in mid November of 2012, more than half a year after the book’s publication. A reasonable conclusion would be that the analyses of the authors was an important wake-up call that caused officials in China to reassess their approach and change course in meaningful ways under Xi. In contrast, the United States economic policies progressively worsened under the Obama regime, which did not implement necessary reforms to rein in excesses in the financial services industry.
Seen from this perspective, the critique presented in this essay is based on a logically strained retrospective view that tacitly presumes that the developmental trajectory that China was following more than a dozen years ago, under Hu Jintao, as was considered by the authors of the book, would have continued without modification. Obviously, it is difficult to predict the longer term future under changed – and unknown or unanticipated – circumstances, so the criticism is somewhat disingenuous. To the extent that the contents of the book helped China correct its economic guidelines through improvements, the authors would appropriately deserve praise.
The Evolution of Civilizations
Tragedy and Hope
Weapons Systems and Political Stability
http://www.carrollquigley.net/books.htm
‘China’s political system is much more inclusive than the US – 75% of the 37 most senior leaders since 1990 come from working class background.’ — Hua Bin
This is a silly, contrived definition of inclusiveness. Until just a few years ago, nearly every middle-aged Chinese came from a working-class background, owing to the country’s near-universal poverty until the 1980s.
Propagandist Hua Bin completely sidesteps the most meaningful comparison — namely, that culturally Chinese societies in Hong Kong, Singapore and Taiwan got a one-generation lead on the communist mainland in developing their economies, and continue to enjoy not only higher wealth, but also more democratic inclusiveness (the kind that Hua Bin doesn’t want to talk about).
Well then, clearly President Xi owes Ron a vice presidential slot in China’s cabinet. But — oops — that can’t happen in China’s uninclusive system, which doesn’t even accommodate its own ethnic minorities, much less a gweilo like Ron.
You stick to your system, we’ll stick to ours.
Surprisingly, before the gates were closed, despite not being able to pass for ethnic Chinese, there were several Jews who were very influential in the Chinese Communist Party, including Sidney Rittenberg, who as chief censor was essentially in charge of China’s media, Israel Epstein who served as China’s head of international public relations, and Sidney Shapiro who made a ‘virtue’ of not looking Chinese by becoming the average Chinese’s image of an American as he played the American villain in many Chinese movies for the masses.
In an unfortunate coincidence, China didn’t get around to much lifting of the common people out of poverty during this period. In fact, there was mass starvation and even cannibalism. China’s rise really began after a purge at the top, including Rittenberg and Epstein.
In other words, they did get in, but it didn’t work out that well for the Chinese, or even for these Jewish guys ultimately, though in a heartwarming coda, after his expulsion from China, lifelong Communist Rittenberg made a small fortune advising capitalist megacorporations and hedge funds on investing in China, so let it not be said the man was hamstrung by principle.
Some more examples
Thesis: Russian economy is in tatters. Russia has no arms they are fighting with shovels and washing machine chips.
Anti-thesis: Russia is ruthless they want their imperial power back. They are going to attack us, we must invest 800 billion in defence industry fast. We must prevent and deter Russia….aaaaaaaaa quick!
Yes, it’s a real mystery why Haiti, a fertile island in a temperate region with an almost ideal climate, is an impoverished shithole, while Iceland, essentially a barren rock in the middle of the inhospitable North Atlantic, is a prosperous first world country with high per capita economic output — we need to do ‘research’ to understand what’s going on, and then write a book about it — maybe we’ll get a prize.
Obviously when something idiotic like racial egalitarianism is enforced as dogma, and throughout the entire mainstream of society (politics, media, academia, etc) there’s a blanket taboo on acknowledging biological racial differences and their influence, you’re going to see a lot of nonsense put forth to explain ‘why some nations achieve wealth and stability while others fall into poverty and chaos.’
Smart fraction theory vindicated — The gifted drive civilization, we ignore them at our peril
The final Nakba and the military invasions of Lebanon and Syria are intended to make Greater Israel capacious enough for the American Jews to move to.
This is a hysterical post, showing a complete inability to take a calm look at history, facts and large data. What ultimately renders it as intellectual rubbish not worth anybody’s time is the following nugget:
“stole the technologies and sciences from ancient China”
If there’s one thing that non-European nations can undoubtedly thank White people for, it’s technology.
There isn’t much that we got from other countries which you couldn’t label a resource. You have to get really generous, silly even, to argue in favour of an African or Asian transfer of “technologies or science”. On the flipside, Europe shared everything it had in stock almost immediately. And if anything, this gracious and näive mentality is still in place.
“Satori is a Japanese Buddhist term for “awakening”, “comprehension; understanding”…Satori means the experience of awakening (“enlightenment”) or apprehension of the true nature of reality.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satori
Famous American saying: QUESTION EVERYTHING
Ugly reality is we lost WWII and the National Socialist Germans were right, but we carpet bombed their cities, and mass murdered millions of their citizens and created the new dark age we’re living in now. Even worse, is that the very people that tricked us into doing this control everything now. This includes this farce called the Nobel Prize.
It was all too big, too complex, and we’ve all been too mentally stunted to understand the extent they control our thoughts, awareness, and outside environment from which we get today’s sadistic programming.
Even worse, is it takes years of research, behind a critical eye, to understand the extent of the big game being played on us. Those that have had satori and speak against this conditioning will be just as attacked as our system has been post WWII.
“Only the shadows and sounds are the prisoners’ reality, which are not accurate representations of the real world.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_cave
EVERYTHING HAS BEEN COMPROMISED…EVERYTHING IS A JEWISH LIE. ONLY NATIONAL SOCIALISM CAN SAVE THE WHITE RACE.
All technology derives from something preexisting. That’s just the nature of technical progress. But what really matters is not so much who was on first, but rather what can be made from existing tech, how that can be further refined and improved, and how it is then implemented on a practical scale.
Right now, US, infrastructure is falling apart. Tech has languished and much of it doesn’t work as it should. Also, tending to be overly costly with questionable quality. Think of NASA, which has had over 65 years to develop. What do we get from it? Stranded astronauts and a space station that is well past its expiration date.
Consider passenger trains. Compare AMTRAK with China’s high speed rail system. Although the former does have a Share the Ride to PRIDE LGBT discount, which China has yet to steal.
Personal transportation? The Big 3 vs China. Especially in NEV land. Or the fact that without China investment, European car manufacturers face a grim future (although there is talk of VW starting to build military equipment for the German army, once NATO leaves the building–LOL).
Check out ship building, both commercial and military. Some say China’s shipbuilding output is over 200 times whatever the US can bring to the table.
Silicon fabs? The current heavyweights are not Western, but Korean and Taiwanese (estranged Chinese). China has only recently begun to play that industry– from necessity, because of US political decisions. How long do you think it will take them to match and then surpass their Asian competition? And where will the US be, once China is making comparable product? Probably still trying to get Korean and/or Taiwan operations to bail Intel out, due to that company’s mismanagement.
Fighter jets. Can anyone seriously compare the J-20 in the same sentence as the problem plagued F-35? I guess we won’t know about that, until China takes Taiwan. When that happens, hopefully it will be during good weather, so the US ‘all weather’ fighter will be able to operate.
The list goes on. So don’t get too smug about the West this and the West that. What counts is what each country, and each race can make of the tech on hand. In this the US and Europe are struggling, if not going backwards. Now, you may not like that. Who does? But that is not my fault.
Basically they did the equivalent of taking a look at the stock price of Apple, charting the gradient and tried predicting the future of the company based off that and feeling all smug about it. I believe Vox Day had a specific designation for people like this: midwits.
Definitely agree. I know that when I’m in Taiwan–that errant Chinese province, I often watch the weather report a couple of times, …just to make sure it is accurate, and so I don’t miss anything.
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It’s the last place that American Jews want to go to. They don’t speak Hebrew and Israelis don’t like them.
Australia and New Zealand are far better options. They speak English and the centres of power are under full Jewish control. Only problem that Australasia doesn’t have the lootable wealth of Russia or the USA but it’s better than nothing.
Maybe some seeds, maybe a whole lot of seeds, were planted with the various inventions like the phonograph, radio and TV, all invented before WWII. The Entertainment Leviathan ushered in a morally lazy and vacuous public obessessed with laughing and being entertained. Korporate Kulture combind with the dominance of a certain species of snake in the grass made it all happen. In time, the heroes came from entertainment, not from science, medicine and the military. Did you know that CBS David Sarnoff cheated the inventor Philo Farnsworth (a completely forgotten brilliant electro-scientist) out of millions by stealing his patents/inventions for TV in the 1920s?
China has 814 billionaires (in US dollars) and 6,200,000 millionaires.
The number of billionaires holding senior policy-making positions in the Trump Administration was six, not thirteen, when ABC News falsely reported there were thirteen billionaires holding high-level positions.
It’s rather ironic that Hua Bin relies on former US Treasury Secretary and Goldman Sachs Chairman and CEO Henry Paulson’s Paulson Institute as a source for his inflated claims about China’s technical prowess and the quality of Chinese universities.
Paulson was largely responsible for the 2008 financial crash that Hua Bin rightfully criticizes. That crisis resulted in $16 trillion in losses to the US economy, almost a million homes being foreclosed on, and over two million Americans being made homeless while many more Americans found that their houses were worth less than they had paid for them.
Paulson was the Chairman and CEO of Goldman Sachs when it placed bets against the subprime mortgage market even as it was recommending subprime-mortgage-backed securities to unwitting investors. Maybe Hua’s trust in Paulson is based on the fact that he developed close relations with China. In July 2008, The Daily Telegraph reported, “Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson has intimate relations with the Chinese elite, dating from his days at Goldman Sachs when he visited the country more than 70 times.”
Beginning with the George H.W. Bush administration (he was the first president who talked glowingly about a New World Order), globalists took over the US economy, speeding up the offshoring of industry and good-paying middle- and working-class jobs and importing cheap Third World labor to depress American wages and enlarge the number of Americans on welfare. Ever since then, the US economy has been based on high debt, money printing, Ponzi schemes and vulture capitalism.
Trump wants to bring industry and jobs back to the US. He’s a nationalist, not a globalist. Washington has hated him for this, and it did everything it could to stymie him during his first term and deny him a second term — including two assassination attempts. Now that Trump is President, Washington is slowly falling into line behind him. They really have no choice. Four more years of Biden’s policies would have destroyed the US.
Is China a better long term bet than the United States? Without Trump I would say yes. But with Trump — and a couple of terms of Vance after Trump leaves office — I would say no. Tucker Carlson recently interviewed Luke Gromen, covering a range of economic and geopolitical issues. You can find the interview on YouTube. It’s one of the main reasons I’m bullish on Trump.
The Chinese would like to thank Europe for transferring their tech so that China could be the first to achieve a Fusion reaction that lasted more than a few nano/milliseconds.
In this experiment, China achieved 17 minutes!!! Indefinite burn will be achieved soon.
Now Humankind is within grasp of limitless clean energy.
I wonder why this is not reported in your media?
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Chip manufacturing facilities were moved abroad from Silicon Valley because the fabrication process, with its many etching solvents, posed a health risk for the works who inhaled these chemicals. Additionally, the groundwater in the highly populated region of San Jose became polluted from the discharges, so people had to drink bottled water. Politicians and entrepreneurs in places like Taiwan and South Korea, which were at a lower level of development, did not care much about worker safety, polluting their air, and impure groundwater, then gladly hosted this transfer of production technology.
Here’s a nice travel video from a young South African woman who moved to China a few years ago:
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And here’s a video from a young American woman who moved to China a few years ago, now visiting Xinjiang with her Uyghur boyfriend:
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I think these are relevant datapoints both on the modern efficiency of Chinese technology compared to that in America, and also on the alleged “Uyghur Genocide.”
I think you are referring to Gerald Tannenbaum, who often played the Caucasian ‘villain’ in Mao era Chinese movies, rather than Sidney Shapiro. Tannenbaum was reputedly a favorite of Sun Yatsen’s widow, Soong Qingling, who spoke fluent idiomatic English from her U.S. education. Those movies are terrible cinema without nuance, and caricatures for characters. Tannenbaum was a ridiculous actor, but it was hard to find a white guy in China in those days.
As was true for Republican Spain and Bolshevik Russia, ‘Old Left’ Jews and non-Jews went to China prior to the Revolution and a handful, like those mentioned, stayed on. The Chinese treated them well, generally indulging them.
This is a best starting point:
WASP culture from its inception has been exactly that thing of an elite that is endlessly self-serving and predatory against ‘its own.’ And WASP Empire produces Satanic levels of wealth for its masters. If you have trouble grasping any of that as being possible, think of the Synagogue: endlessly predatory, including against its own, producing great wealth for its masters.
The basic assertion is correct in that only nations building wealth in ways that fit with Platonist, Aristotelian, and historic Christian moral theology can build great wealth for the nation, as opposed to great wealth for there masters of a culture.
The simple fact is that WASP imperial rule means a master class, always working with the most powerful and wealthy Jews worldwide, to secure its power and wealth forever. And that requires constantly abusing those under its rule while teaching them to see their chains as the nest possible world., including interns of social and economic mobility.
MAR 07, 2025 American Civil War, Part 3: From “Our Country, Then and Now””National Banking Act of 1863” and “Assassination”
When the Lincoln Administration began to issue Greenbacks in 1862 to finance the war, it was a return to the direct issuance of currency by the government akin to the practices of several colonial legislatures prior to the American Revolution. Unfortunately, when Alexander Hamilton later set up the First Bank of the United States under the first Washington administration in 1791, the US adopted the Bank of England method of capitalizing the monetary system on government debt.
https://open.substack.com/pub/montanarcc/p/american-civil-war-part-3-from-our?r=h5lea&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false
December 17, 2024 Visualizing $102 Trillion of Global Debt in 2024
In 2024, global public debt is forecast to reach $102 trillion, with the U.S. and China largely contributing to rising levels of debt.
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/102-trillion-of-global-debt-in-2024/
May 21, 2013 Why the whole banking system is a scam
Godfrey Bloom MEP • European Parliament, Strasbourg, 21 May 2013 • Speaker: Godfrey Bloom MEP, UKIP (Yorkshire & Lincolnshire)
US industry suffers under intolerable regulation whose purpose is sinecures for environmental troublemakers and other radical leftists looking to punish hated America. Here’s a very brief overview of the absolutely devastating effects of regulation based on 50 years of data, from an article on Mises dot org.
https://mises.org/mises-wire/cost-regulation.
DOGE would do well to destroy this regulatory monster before it consumes every penny of assets, investment, labor, and profit remaining in the husk that was once the world’s leading economy. These miserable regulatory bastards should be defenestrated forthwith and sent back to the universities to punish hated America by other means like say another Covid.
Why america Failed by Morris Berman
When do find the time to read and comment on the articles on unz.com, Director? Isn’t running the FBI enough to keep you busy? Is Bin Hua on your radar for spying on the US?
With any manufacturing process, health risks must be minimized. That is one area where China lags, and is just getting started. However, manufacturing safety is essentially another technical aspect of the overall manufacturing process. If worker and environmental safety are deemed important, then inherent limitations can be overcome.
With that in mind, the US is now subsidizing TSMC as they work on getting their Arizona facility going. Considered a strategic industry (and rightly so) it seems that any environmental concerns have either been worked out, or pushed aside.
The TSMC thing has proven to be rather controversial in Taiwan, with some claiming that the company is essentially ‘selling out’ Taiwan, for both profit and because of Trump’s aggressive tactics. But really, what can they do? The DPP relies on the US to support them militarily (at least on paper), so there was never much ability for the company to decline the ‘offer’ of a US plant.
What is also telling, is that when it comes to the US producing ‘its own’ chips, they turn to what is essentially a Chinese operation. When reading the articles, we find how Taiwan management is not happy with US workers, accusing them of not being reliable and enthused, whereas US workers are unhappy with company management, accusing them of using ‘strong armed’ work tactics, which Americans are not used to.
Sour grape troll from the democracies of the West.
For the complete opposite view to the neoliberal Nobel Prize winners, see
Erik Reinert’s ‘How the Rich Countries got Rich’.
https://www.duo.uio.no/bitstream/handle/10852/32638/1/WP2004-01.pdf
Quote:
‘Together these essays add a missing dimension to the sequence of new insights that have emerged from the Washington Consensus: get the economic activities right. The uniting element in the history of economic policy is that successful nations all have embraced a policy of establishing a critical mass of economic activities subject to increasing returns: a diversified manufacturing sector to which knowledge-intensive services were later added. Promoting an urban manufacturing sector, i.e. ‘import substitution’, and state-building were for hundreds of years two sides of the same coin.’
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A lot of his works can be found here:
https://othercanon.org
China has already peaked and will go back down again.
The reason why is they have a rapidly aging population that is under replacement rate. China’s population is going to decrease to 500-600 million, many elderly.
They had their chance and their time is over and Pax Americana 2 is underway.
China requires energy for its economy and now the U.S. is now in charge of Russian energy and soon will control Iranian energy.
This Chinese triumphalism has left them blind, and now Russia and America have aligned to make sure the dragon is a well-muzzled and a cute little pet.
One would guess that students learn of the errors and evils of those early advisors.
(((They))) have another potential lever, though, in the Kaifeng jews whose sense of Jewishness almost died out, but is now lovingly cultivated by agents of the zio-state.
Also, in the general perception by many Chinese (and many east Asians in general) that ‘Jews are good at getting money, so they must be very smart.’
Your insistence shows that the Whites are narrow-minded, akin to “a frog at the bottom of a well,” shrouded in hubris and nostalgia, clinging to the past. It shows that the West has nothing to show and to compete, all they can do is fabricate narratives ensnared in a web of twisted narratives, falsehoods, and manipulated consensus.
BTW @xyzxy was talking about the West’s hypocrisy, insecurity, lack of confidence, decay in intellectual capacity, disappearing of critical thinking, slavish to authority, and morality defunct. Your Strawman Fallacy reply to his comment proves he termed the West Zerohedge Antinomy spot on.
China’s high-speed rail looks very much like that of Japan. It isn’t accidental, since it is a copy.
Please show me U.S. expertise in high-speed rail? OIC, there isn’t any.
When they first started to build the high-speed lines, they put out requests for tender. This was only to mine ideas from the tenderors, mainly from Japan and SNCF of France.
The P.R.C. didn’t accept any of the tenders (possibly a few minor ones with no real return for the tenderors), just went ahead with copying Japanese high-speed rail.
They worked it out in the end, but had several major disasters (as in each with a few hundred deaths) in the early years, not very long ago. All because they didn’t want to accept or pay for any tenders, just to use the process for gathering information.
The main but politically incorrect reason for China’s success is its high average I.Q. compared to the rest of what we call the third world!
are you saying he didn’t know that all those armaments he made (and from which he profited handsomely), were going to be used? he was selling to any takers, providing arms for both sides like a rothschild. he was accused of treason by the french for selling to the itialians and moved from france to italy, sounds like a rootless cosmopolitan, to me. imo, he was a crazy old swede suffering from guilt complex, like sarah winchester, continually adding on to her mansion to appease the ghosts that haunted her.
nothing good comes from this and the nobel committee is just an extension of the european elitist war mongers, that serve their zionist masters. when is rachel corrie getting her nobel peace prize? oh, that’s right they gave it to o’ bomber instead.
2018:
2010:
Shanghai is a Jewish city.
China is and has always been an image of the future, not the past.
Heh, the reason for the comedy is probably because the Nobel Prize for Economics is not a Nobel Prize — that is, it wasn’t one of the subjects that Alfred Nobel wanted to award. The economics prize is not awarded by the Nobel Foundation; a bank decides who wins (the Sveriges Riksbank), so of course the prize tends to be more of a popularity contest than a measure of correctness.
For example, Paul Krugman won the Economics Nobel Prize in 2008 — only ten years after he said “By 2005 it will be clear that the internet’s impact on the global economy has been no greater than the fax machine.” (Link.) So committing a gross error in economics is no bar to winning the Nobel Prize in Economics.
Well, if New York Times Washington Post and BBC praised the book it must be dead wrong.
Jews and their minions are also aggressively spreading Evangelical Christianity in China and Asia. The kind that teaches the naive new converts about the chosen and their holy land.
How many Nikola Tesla’s inventions have been stolen by France, Britain, Germany & America?
‘Cause we are Wryites we were Brothas, if we used it it’s borrowing, it’s inspired. Only when slanty eyed Chinamen it’s Stealing, Stiiiii-Liing!’
Ok, how did you treat your Wryite Brothas follow Serbs?
Nato (G7) and their mob boss Jewmerica bombed Serbia for more than 2 months and dismantled Yugoslavia, created a Muslim majority ruled Albania right in front of Europe’s doorstep.
BTW, Chinese families paid twice, 3 times tuitions for their kids to study abroad,
Chinese LITERALLY bought the whole design package from Siemens, Fujitsu
Where are your proofs they were stealing? Why Germans and japs not crying out loud but you?
If they did steal, why don’t you stand in front of MIT/Princeton and demand expel all Chinese?
Come on, be our savior and hero, go demo in front of WH,
Do it coward.
‘Wyrite wuz kangs’ incels never cease to amaze me,
It seems certain type of bots NEVER really bother reading the article, especially Hua Bing’s
As long as it’s China-related article they got triggered, or activated,
Pavlov must be smiling in his grave Fed been his best pupils.
‘Wyrite wuz kangs’ incels ONLY pretended to care about European whites collectively when,
well China mentioned,
They didn’t give shxt about Nikola Tesla’s ideas and inventions been stolen by europeans and americans, neither do they give a dime Nato and Jewmurica bombed Serbia to oblivion and submission to jewry.
It turned out it’s the EASIEST way to pick China because there is no consequence, aka China does NOT rule over them, everyone else is above social ladder of whites and non-criticizable,
Again proves how pathetic and miserable Wyrite incels are, when in a ideal situation they could at least learn to cope with Chinese and expel their invaders.
That option is gone when their society paid a tangible price for their stupidity and ego, meanwhile
Chinese will stand by and watch their cesspool burning to a new year fireshow.
Calm down. This is exactly where China was until Clinton let it in the WTO. 25 years from flopping around like a goldfish on concrete to god-emperor of the new dawn.
That’s the span of 3 presidents. nbd
Paulescu called it “pancreine,” which makes direct sense, but they changed its name to “insulin” ( a distant reference to the isles of Langerhans) to obscure any connection to him.
As the first paragraph in the wikipedia page about him informs us, the most important thing we need to know about a scientist is whether he was an “anti-semite”:
“Paulescu was also, with A. C. Cuza, co-founder of the National Christian Union and later, of the National-Christian Defense League, an early ultranationalist and anti-Semitic Romanian party. He was also a leading member of the militant religious fascist Iron Guard.”
Mexico would have the awardee of the Weather Nobel every year:
https://www.newspointapp.com/news/yanet-garcias-hot-pictures/photoshow/cd9920ca326245ed2f9c9e6a38fd79b0.cms#google_vignette
5ds
Thomas Schelling won the economics prize, but he was no lightweight.
He was an essential game theorist for Cold War and constrained decision making.
Traditionally, the similarities between Confucianism and Judaism (promotion within the family in all things) led Britain to refer to Chinese as ‘The Jews of The East’. Very similar banking/business practices. Their financial networks spreading throughout South East Asia long before Britain turned its attention to China. Native populations in The Malayan peninsula (incl Singapore) across The Philippines and Indonesia (or The Spice Islands, as was) all resented the power and dominance Chinese minorities insidiously exercised, all welcomed Japan’s invasions and persecution of Chinese populations. No-one talks about that. It’s still happening of course, particularly in Vietnam, Thailand and Burma and whether it will fall to the Japanese or Amerika to ‘rescue’ these vulnerable small nations, remains to be seen.
But I don’t have any illusions about Ji’s ideology.
Acemoglu:
I think we should state clearly that nations with inclusive economic and political institutions, defined as rule of law, democratic participation, political pluralism, like the US and the UK are destined to succeed.
Robinson:
I agree but without specifically naming the US and the UK. Let the readers understand by themselves.
Johnson:
Based on my experience in the IMF I think we should add to the above characteristics “nations most open to borrowing unlimited funds as needed for accomplishing its projects.
Acemoglu:
I disagree with both of you. I think we should state it exactly as I proposed. I remind you that I am the lead author, siktir!
The USA is hardly a model for economic well-being. Certainly the people who write a book like this who seldom know the realities of life among the non-rich and non-PMC people. Working class people in the USA are struggling. Families are crumbling two income households can barely make it in life whereas fifty years ago working class families could be just fine economically–that’s reality, not what PMC intellectuals and their highly deficient education has taught them as reality. This is because the non-STEM courses in American universities are mainly garbage particularly in the most elite universities and “economics” may be one of the worst studies (my father was a pro-economist and he influenced my opinion.
You just named a bunch of modern innovations gifted to the Chinese from Jews. lol. I’m not saying this to bismirch China but the truth is the truth. Your emotions about alleged trillions stolen from low IQ slop races and millions of them dead is proof your an emotional brown that can’t into abstract thought. In the end none of this matters. The future is already being decided by Whites, Chinese, Jews and even some brown elites who continue to keep us all in the dark and make deals. Every elite is extractive and this Hua bin comes across as another pied Piper just one cloaked in rice.
“Why Nations Fail” is an excellent example of why our nation is failing. Through its absurdity, it answers its own question. – though not in the way that the authors intended.
“While the thesis in theory seems to make sense…”
Lies always make sense when they’re told. Its the listener’s fault.
Its because you didn’t take the time to understand the terms. America is not a nation and never was.
But the nation that rules over it is doing very well.
Even worse is environmentalists Jews closing down every skilled job well paid White men job. And the ignoramuses of Unz wonder why young Whites don’t get married have kids and buy a house
Nobel made (and still makes) explosives, not “armaments”; his breakthrough
“dynamite” was simply nitroglycerine in a form that could somewhat safely be
handled (of course the weaponization – the Zalinsky compressed air cannon –
followed immediately).
Mine blasting is – along flotation and the Flottmann drill – one of the three great
breakthroughs in the business, the basis of modernity 😎
What do you expect from a “Dr. Westen K. Shilaho, scholar of international relations, Department of International Relations, University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg”? The Herero uprising in what is now Namibia was a bitter conflict that only led to German-bashing decades later. Wikipedia is, as usual, one-sided in its description and anyone who takes the trouble to study the German-language sources (public opinion in the German Empire was definitely divided) will get a more differentiated picture. In fact, the colonies were more important to Germany as a settlement area for emigrants than as a source of raw materials and wealth.The first Chancellor of the Empire, Otto von Bismarck, resisted the acquisition of overseas colonies for a long time, arguing that they would be too expensive. In fact, the investment in infrastructure swallowed up huge sums of money. An exemplary colonial administration was established in East Africa, now Tanzania, and German first names are still popular in Cameroon. As a Kenyan once told me: ‘the Germans worked wonders in Tanzania’, both in the school system, railway construction and healthcare. Every German civil servant who was transferred there had to learn Kiswahili first (‘ki-’ means language). Throughout my travels in Africa, among the older people there was no one who spoke badly about German colonialism, although there had been some bad apples, too. In striking contrast to predominantly french Western Africa or Belgian Congo, who don’t remember their former masters very fondly. The Italian part of colonialism is negligible, although so many Italians I met are still fascinated with it, furnishing their homes with African heirlooms.
So it sounds like their general thesis (inclusive and meritocratic is best) may be correct, but their attributing so which country is inclusive and meritocratic (namely, the USA being the winner) was false.
The Nobel Prizes are awards administered by the Nobel Foundation based on the principle “for the greatest benefit to humankind” in six categories: physics, chemistry, physiology or medicine, literature, and peace. The first five prizes are awarded by Swedish committees, the peace prize by the Norwegian Nobel Committee.
THERE IS NO NOBEL PRIZE for ECONOMICS (!)
In 1968 the Sveriges Riksbank (Sweden’s central bank) created an award “in memory of Alfred Nobel”. Peter Nobel, a human-rights lawyer and great-grandnephew of Alfred Nobel has protested against the misuse of his family’s name for decades because neither Alfred Nobel nor the Nobel family had any intention of establishing a prize in economics. He said:
I could not agree more and one is tempted to argue that this FAKE “Nobel prize” is like “putting lipstick on a pig”.
“Economics” is a pseudo-science pretending that what should be analysed as a social science , (economic relations are part of social relations) can be explained with mathematical models, so they created “econometrics” (only numbers matter).
But at the same time the enforced market-society, the “free trade” charade (now turned into absurd theatre with Trump’s tariff war and an endless barrage of trade embargoes – called “sanctions”- against dozens of countries) and other neoliberal imperatives must not be challenged, they have become “gospel”.
Why would a Swedish bank pay for this award and pretend it is a “Nobel Prize”?
Two of the most controversial prize winners offer a clue: Friedrich Hayek (1974) the Godfather of Neoliberalism (who had close ties with the awarding committee via the Mont Pelerin Society) and Milton Friedman (1976) his most ardent disciple (promoting the autistic idea of “monetarism”).
What the “free market” society really amounted to (a dictatorship) became painfully obvious during the reign of terror in Chile under Augusto Pinochet (whose fascist regime was installed by the US after the “suicide” of the democratically elected President Salvador Allende. Chile became the poster child for how the “Chicago boys” (graduates of Chicago university) would implement their economic nightmare and call the ensuing widespread poverty a “success”.
Four REAL Nobel Prize laureates – George Wald, Linus Pauling, David Baltimore and Salvador Luria – wrote letters in October 1976 to The New York Times protesting Friedman’s award.
Neoliberal economics had previously been considered an outlandish idea but after the two fake “Nobel Prizes” it became not only accepted but the dominant model.
Ukraine has been in the process of being transformed into such a “market” (since 2014) and what is the result?)
Ukraine’s GDP contracted from $200 billion (in 1990) to $131 billion in 2018 (source: World Bank). The Washington post noted in 2019: … Ukraine’s economy is in worse shape today than it was when the USSR still existed (a result of massive corruption and foreign interference).
It is 24 percent smaller now than it was in 1993 and average incomes are 17 percent lower. A recent report by The Oakland institute shows how Ukraine has been transformed into a “commodity” (notably the agricultural land):
https://newcoldwar.org/takeover-of-ukraines-agricultural-land/
So what happened to the people of Ukraine after the US orchestrated coup in 2014 and installed a neoliberal “market” there?
A drastic decline in the living conditions of a large part of its population took place. Introduction of market tariffs for utilities and pension reform have led to the erosion of public services, rising prices for gas and utilities and the impoverishment of Ukrainians.
• Between 2013 and 2019 the average monthly wage dropped to the equivalent of USD 80.
• This was coupled with a high rate of inflation (43% in 2015). During that time the price of gas increased 12-fold.
• 80 percent of single pensioners in Ukraine live below the poverty line, while 65% receive a pension below USD 82 per month.
• In 2021 Ukraine was the poorest country in Europe with a per capita GDP of USD 4.835.
• In 2014 the country’s poverty rate stood at 28,6 percent. By 2016 it had doubled, reaching a staggering 58,6%. • In 2019 it was still high (41,3%)
The Ukrainian government advertises the country for “investment opportunities” pointing out its “cheap labour” and “19 Free-trade agreements with 46 countries”.
THIS is what the war in Ukraine is all about … eradicate all remnants of a socialist system and let foreign capital take over … neither the EU nor the US plutocrats give a **** about the people there…
While I agree with much of this critique of Acemoglu and Robinson, they did make a few remarkably prescient predictions in their book which may be why the Nobel Committee evaluated their work so highly a decade later. For instance, as Hua Bin describes it:
China’s economic performance did in fact falter the very next year. The book was published in 2012, and it was pessimistic about China in spite of the previous 30 years of unremitting and extraordinary economic growth there. This was forward-looking and has been validated by the following decade of much slower growth in China. Xi Jinping became China’s leader in 2013 and economic growth immediately fell to half of what it had been before 2013 and has never recovered. The result is that, in spite of the amazing growth before Xi, China is still a very poor country. Yes, their GDP is larger than the US GDP when measured at Purchasing Power Parity. But that’s not because they’re rich, it’s because they’re big. Put a billion pitifully poor people in one country, and their total GDP adds up to a big number. But the people there are still impoverished by Western standards, or even by Eastern standards like those of Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, etc. Even at PPP, China’s per capita GDP is lower than many Third World dumps like the Dominican Republic. That’s how poor the Chinese people are per person now.
Like it or not, the US has been by far the strongest economy in the Western world. 20 years ago, people talked about Europe as an economic block that could challenge the US. At the time, the GDP of the EU was actually larger than the GDP of the US. After 20 years of the US continually growing faster than Europe, today US GDP is double EU GDP, and we speak of European “vassals”.
I also read Hua Bin’s article listing the top 10 achievements of Xi Jinping. It reminded me of what a North Korean journalist would gush as the top 10 list of Kim Jong Un’s achievements:
This is the list a prisoner would recite when his jailors put a gun to his head. I hope Hua Bin is safe.
What a bunch of Hooey – China Extractive and America Inclusive? Exactly opposite. America is run by a Jewish minority and there is n0 more selfish group than they. They are definitely the most
“assholish” bunch of pricks ever ready to put themselves first and everyone else last that ever lived.
The Chinese are by comparison a group of fair minded people who believe in giving the other Chinese
a fair shot at the brass rings of their society
his first swedish patent was granted in 1863 for “ways to produce gun powder”. his family’s factory produced armaments for the crimean war. in 1894 he purchased bofors iron works and helped transform it into a modern cannon maker.
granted dynamite is used for more industrial purposes but he also invented ballistite, a predecessor of cordite, which is still used as a solid fuel rocket propellant. when he licensed it to the italian army, he was accused of high treason by the french and he fled to italy, were he lived the rest of his life.
If Kamala was good enough for Willie Brown,
she’s good enough for you!
China’s economic performance … was unsustainable and would falter.
Everything human falters: it’s the nature of things.
So, are you disagreeing that Whites colonized and enslaved blacks, or stole lands from the native americans, or started the opium wars, or whatever? You are the one who can’t refute any of these historical facts. So ad hominem is your only argument?
Not surprising, white racists and supremacists never going to agree to some common sense knowledge – that Whites were not unique in creating tech/sciences. You don’t even know your history. I will just quote a few examples I have commented in the Unz before:
https://www.unz.com/aanglin/america-is-a-sports-team-competing-with-china-is-actually-the-correct-metaphor/?showcomments#comment-6933636
I would emphasize, the above were just a few of the examples of stolen tech by Europeans from Chinese – commonly *agreed* by the West today. There are of course, more examples, like stealing of silk making by Italian, the gunpowder formula, etc. Needham’s multi-volume works already gave plenty of examples. But even that, Needham only had access to a small fraction of Chinese historical records, because, in addition, there were also even more examples of stolen sciences/tech that were known in the Chinese classic texts, but completely ignored or denied by the West today, like astronomy data, mathematics, mechanical devices, etc. The following are examples of Chinese books written by Chinese researchers:
虚构的古希腊文明, 作者: 董并生
欧洲文明史察疑, 作者 黄河清
言不必称希腊, 作者 黄河清
光从中华来, 作者 黄河清
虚构的西方文明史, 作者 诸玄识
希腊伪史考, 希腊伪史续考, 作者 何新
plus thousands of articles, research papers, videos, blogs…
So a book by two Brits and a Turk given a Nobel is the equivalent of pushing a wet string up a dead hookers ass🙀I know have some respect for hookers! Please explain how China was multi-penetrated by American or more pointedly Bostonian virtue signaling families Perkins-Weld-Forbes-Delano with eugenics thru opium and the follow on Japanese Imperial Unit 731 activities(Fabianesque might I say) in Harbin. Clean your on house first Oliver Twist
Triggered.
Right, and that form of white genocide has clearly been the plan for a hundred years. EMJ quotes Jews and their elitist WASP predecessors in their own words and with scrupulous respect for context to confirm your point. Since there could hardly be anything more obvious, what is the explanation, beyond sheer cowardice and careerism, for these stooges in Trump’s administration sacrificing America to deify Jews and install Greater Israel? Of course the Jews have had plenty of help, but, in their own words, they’ve arguably been the driving force behind most of what’s ailing this country.
Problem?
Harvard and MIT are on the Cambridge side of the Dneiper no Rhine no Yangtze no Nile no Mississippi noTIGRIS no EUPHRATES…….. deal with your local ghouls.
Because most Jews speak English doesn’t mean that they’re automatically going to socially accept American Jews who only speaks English.
This is probably very biased. An organization like this isn’t going to report that Israeli Jews appreciate money and political support from US Jews but don’t much like them personally.
> Sidney Rittenberg, who as chief censor was essentially in charge of China’s media
Another dumb lie. Rittenberg never had such authority.
https://archive.nytimes.com/rendezvous.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/07/10/the-man-who-stayed-behind-in-china-comes-forward/
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The leaders used him to polish and edit their messages into perfect English. He later translated some of Mao’s writings — the Chairman even autographed his Little Red Book — and he worked for the New China News Agency and Radio Peking.
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> Israel Epstein who served as China’s head of international public relations
Another inflated claim. He acted as an editor for China Today, which was a very specific magazine directed at foreign audiences. He never remotely acquired a position as the head of international public relations for China.
It seems that Right-wing cranks have to inflate the role of any Jew that they can find simply because their vision of history always depends on this.
On the other hand, Africa and South America are being plundered by Chinese companies. The small difference to colonialism is that the local elites share in the profits, while all the rest, such as farmers, forest dwellers, fishermen, etc., lose their livelihoods. Other countries are supposed to pay for climate change through CO2 taxes, while the oxygen-producing forests are cut down and transported to China for timber. This means ruthless destruction of the environment and is changing the global climate significantly. The simultaneous extinction of species is blamed on ‘the whites’ (10% of the world’s population) while the Chinese (20% of the world’s population) poison rivers in mineral extraction, empty the seas and devastate every corner of the earth for food production on an industrial scale. China has conquered hunger in its own country, but the former starving people are no longer satisfied with just rice and vegetables. As a result, there is a huge demand for delicatessen and luxury goods, which of course have to be paid for. Compared to the overexploitation by Chinese companies, the colonialism of earlier times looks almost gentle.
Bofors? He prolly owned some chocolate factory also …
Ballistite and cordite are smokeless propellants, various mixes of nitrocellulose
+/- nitroglycerine and stabilizer, pioneered by the Germans (duh) as Rottweiler
chemisches Pulver RCP and first put into service by the French as poudre B
for the Mle. 1886 Lebel rifle.
I never said there is a fine line between “military” and “civilian” BumBum 😁
A big cause of failure is diversity. Mixing races, languages, and cultures always leads to disaster.
Of course nations can also fail without diversity. An all-black nation doesn’t have a chance.
Britain’s greatness came from its Industrial Revolution. The world’s leading manufacturer needed raw materials which it traded for. Same as China now searches for raw materials around the world building infrastructure in exchange.
19th Century British India received more infrastructure spending (railways, canals, bridges etc.) that Britain itself. It gave India a common language and a unified the various principalities into a single state with a uniquely uncorrupt administration. Hindus and Moslems treated equally.
Nooooo.
A nation with 110 million ⚫️s and spics and a further 40 million southern trailer 🗑 trash will accomplish NOTHING.
Mr Hua Bin,
All these “prize” nights one sees in the West are part of the clown world charade of the West. To wit: Beyonce has 33 Grammy Awards. Can she eve play a musical instrument or read music?I doubt it. At a 2nd chair level in am average sized city’s orchestra? I guarantee you that answer is a no. Our Kultural’ (((masters))) hath’ decided diversity=good, so they sought out a photogenic black girl with admittedly decent pipes (singing ability), sent professional “muzak” producers her way, and this alchemy results in formulamatic fare that shepards young white kids to see diversity is cool. The music, while not awful, is just average at best, with a few catchy pop hooks therein (how could there not be, with them getting the best songsmiths behind her and best producers mixing it?).
33 Grammy Awards. Did Eddie Van Halen, who really did an innovative thing or two on the guitar ever even win one?
We almost have an awards “system” in various fields of endeavor in the West now thay helps reinforce our bogus narratives. Plenty of us see through it though.
Have a Blessed Day, and thanks for holding up a mirror to us. We need it.
I thought extractive meant mining water power oil coal minerals copper gold silver iron uranium clay for brick making. Extracting useful raw materials from the earth. Material to manufacturer useful things. Regardless of wages
You are looking at one meaning of “extractive”.
Oxford Dictionary lists two:
1. involving removing oil, metals, coal, stone, etc. from the ground:
extractive industry Gold mining is an extractive industry that eventually exhausts the resource it exploits.
Examples:
The biggest extractive industry in Cornwall today is the mining of china clay.
Most of these settlements were dependent upon extractive and processing activities.
—- this is the meaning that you are thinking of.
2. involving taking a resource (= something valuable) or profit from something without trying to replace it or trying to avoid harming that thing:
Examples:
Cash crops are always “extractive” and tend to lower the overall fertility of the farm.
Banks have found it is easier and quicker to make money by being extractive and predatory.
—- This is the meaning that the previous commenters had in mind.
Nobel Prize Committee: Bending over for globohomo, like the US and Western Europe do, is the secret to success for nations.
Reality: The US and others laid the foundation for their success before globohomo came along. Globohomo is now destroying every single one of them.
The Japanese also killed off the Rice Bag Muslim and Christian elites throughout SE Asia. Also needed.
Less than 10% of Indians speak any English. And that number is going down. The Brits built Potemkin cities and extractive railroads, that stunk. The British were absolutely corrupt, on a level than would make Seneca blush. The British taxed peasants to starvation on a mass scale, then stole the lands. Nonsense.
Yes in a way economics is a branch of psychology so indeed the smart thing to do for business schools and economics departments is to hire behavioral psychologists.
For instance the Harvard Business School being on top of this has Dr. Francesca Gino. Her collaboration with Israeli superstar psychologist Dan Ariely among others around topics like …oh say; “The Moral Virtue of Authenticity: How Inauthenticity Produces Feelings of Immorality and Impurity” is fascinating, truly ground-breaking research and certainly worthy of consideration by the Nobel committee (it’s not like those idiots are not really trying anyways ex. the 2025 economics prize).
…oh wait…in the immortal words of Emily Litella; “…NEVER MIND”.
(to set the record straight, the actual wording of Ms. Litella’s original phrase was “screw you and the horse you rode in on” but somehow she was misquoted)
Heh, this reminds me of another notable quote: “The only function of economic forecasting is to make astrology look respectable.” — Dr. John Kenneth Galbraith
According to the World Bank (link), China’s growth rate went from 7.9 percent in 2012 to 7.8 percent in 2013. If you call that “faltering”, fine. But most people would think you were exaggerating. In any case, American would be ecstatic if the USA grew even half that fast.
Of course, China’s growth rate was 5.2% in 2023 (and much the same last year). That is rather low, but then China is no longer pumping its real estate bubble. I expect the growth to resume when the country’s heavy investments in renewable power and high technology start to pay off. In any case, even today’s relatively low growth has been making Biden and Trump insanely jealous.
China’s growth has not been “unremitting”. In 1990, it dropped to 3.9 percent.
You were certainly correct to use a past tense. China’s economy is now significantly larger than the US, according to the World Bank (link) — if you measure it in Purchasing Power Parity (PPP) terms, i.e. in terms of what you can actually buy with your money, which is what really matters. GDPs in 2023, measured by PPP: USA $27.7 trillion; China $34.7 trillion.
Vidi, China cannot grow at 10% any more because it is SO large. The growth MUST slow, as the aggregated additions every year are so VAST. In any case they are going for quality, rather than quantity, with huge technological advances and great social progress for their people, AND the people of the world. And the US economy is hugely financialised, so its progress is mostly flim-flam, designed to advantage ONLY the rich parasites.
She got thirty-two for the size of her arse. Perhaps the Carcrashians could pick up a few, too.
This the effect of half a century of intense anti-white activism/propaganda.
Altogether a fine example of politically-correct know-nothingness.
“Right-wing cranks” such as The Jewish Journal?
Verbatim quote:
Why do we still think books are the source of the whole truth and knowledge when there’s the internet? So much that has been written ages ago is all so dangerously nonsensical and needs to be discarded.. Books that are regarded as holy by some sections of society all over the world are sources of hatred and friction.. NetanYAHOO relies on some ancient writings to commit genocide in Palestine when Cyril Janssen who is covering China on YT so well, gets no recognition from any establishment who think they own the truth like the books they are churning out..
What fires—where–name the province—factory and city !!!!
There is, of course, no such thing as The Nobel Prize” for economics, it is a creation of, funded by, the Swedish National Bank. Founded and funded by liars for their own purposes: The continuation of Monetary extraction.
There was certainly a decline, but I don’t think it was that sharp, at least according to the World Bank data:
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.KD.ZG?end=2023&locations=CN&start=1961&view=chart
For example, from 1999 to 2012, annual GDP growth had averaged just under 10%, having fallen to 7.9% in 2012. Then in 2013-2019 the average dropped to just under 7%. But 7% is still enough to double the economy every decade, a growth rate matched by very few large countries in history. The sharper decline came after Covid and the bursting of the huge real estate bubble, when growth generally dropped to 5% or less. As Jeffrey Sachs has emphasized, this was also partly due to the American economic war against China.
Also, Hua published a very interesting post last month noting that since the GDP contribution of the property industry over the last few years had been negative, e.g. -2% in 2024, the rest of the economy had actually grown at considerably higher rates such as 7% in 2024.
https://www.unz.com/bhua/why-is-the-average-chinese-not-unhappy-with-slower-economic-growth/
I also think the negative comparison with e.g. the Dominican Republic is due to rural China, which is still rather poor. However, the 900 million Chinese living in urban China seem to be much, much wealthier.
Consider, the infrastructure in urban China. Based upon what I’ve seen from all the Western YouTubers, it seems about the best in the world for any large country, far superior to that in the US or the EU, let alone Third World countries such as the Dominican Republic.
For example, upthread I happened to embed a couple of videos that popped up in my YouTube suggestion box showing the recent travels of a couple of young Western women living in China whose channels I’ve occasionally watched:
https://www.unz.com/bhua/the-2024-nobel-economics-prize-is-a-farce/#comment-7042669
I’ve never seen anything like that in any major American city, and I think it would be unimaginable in any Third World country. There are lots of other videos and channels showing the same thing.
I certainly agree that the European countries have become vassals, but I think that’s much more due to the political and media control exerted by the US rather than economic factors.
And unless I’m mistaken, the latest 2023 figures show that the nominal US GDP is just under 50% larger than that of the EU rather than double. Meanwhile, I think that the more realistic PPP-adjusted totals still put the EU slightly ahead of the US. Finally, if we focus on the “Productive PPP” figures (excluding services, which are much more easily subject to manipulation), the EU’s Productive PPP GDP is almost 40% larger than that of the US.
Political Unit Nominal GDP PPP GDP Productive PPP GDP
European Union 18,349,000 25,399,000 6,782,000
USA 27,361,000 24,662,000 4,932,000
https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-a-rising-china-faces-the-west/#t_1
Much appreciated!
Dude you don’t know what you are talking, and certainly not knowing Chinese would rather keep a low profile than flaunting it like niqqers.
Lots of Chinese have side business, 2nd or 3rd place to collect rent, a small but steady incomed joint-venture with families, closed friends (grocery store, mini-stop, gasoline stand etc), grey income of side cash from outside offers (Teacher opening class outside school, workman give service outside company, lawyer giving consulting outside his firm etc,,)
Chinese government did not count those in deliberately, as they don’t want their economy sound too ‘hot’ among nations whose economies are largely in stagnation and recession.
The major purchasing force behind every country are Chinese, if they stop purchasing that could result in one industry dying off, the majority of tourists in every single ‘developed’ countries are Chinese, Chinese are behind lots trades and selling as well in the fields you never heared of,
What I can suggest wyrite incels on Unz is, try do a demo in front of WH, (expenses & meal provided)
demand cut all ties with China, because Chinese GDP figures are fake as hell and everyone is in poverty there is no need to trade with them, let japs and phlipinos fill the void Chinese left.
Call me when you get 10 signs on your petition letter
‘Extractive elites’ – what does it even mean?
The fact that you’re attacking us for touting our leaders is pointless.
We have a collective leadership on our side, in fact, it is more the achievement of the team behind that leadership.
If you want to think that praise is meaningless, you might as well evaluate the braggadocio of a liar like Trump.
He listed so many achievements for himself.
What does this Trump trash really offer you?
Your humorous logic just playfully demonstrates the inferiority of your white species.
My assessment is that you can’t even criticize people very well.
I suggest you stop reading the article and kill yourself early to increase the average IQ of the world.
You’re right about the EU vs. US statistics. According to the IMF for 2024:
EU GDP = $20.3 trillion.
US GDP = $29.0 trillion = 43% larger
EU GDP at PPP = $28.04 trillion
US GDP at PPP = $28.78 trillion = 3% larger
The US is still larger, but not as much larger as I thought.
But as your graph of GDP growth in China shows, Chinese growth fell from about 10% to about 6% under Xi. That’s high growth by rich country standards, but China is still a poor country:
China GDP per capita at PPP = $28,010
US GDP per capita at PPP = $89,680 = 3.2 times larger
Even adjusted for purchasing power, China’s GDP per capita is only 31% as much as America’s. Maybe the cities are richer than the countryside. Maybe China has more billionaires than the US. But including everyone, the Chinese people are poor.
https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/PPPPC@WEO/OEMDC/ADVEC/WEOWORLD
So the Chinese are lying, to make themselves look bad. Nice try.
No. I’m just trying to be accurate. How thin-skinned are you?
I think you are literally the first mentally-ill Chinese person I have ever encountered.
Concludes about the value of the content of book:
Taking the reviewer at his word, I won’t bother glancing at this yet another recycling of Western capitalists propagandists extolling the virtues and superiority the the capitalists extractive system of production the impoverishing its workers who produce the wealth the rich skim off for themselves.
This review indeed cements this newest (well actually rehashed) version of the long series of authors who have for decades spent their academic careers writ4ing similar trash extolling the virtues of the capitalist mode of production, starting with the series on Comparative Politics published by Little, Brown and Company under the editorship of the stars of political science, the great and exalted Gabriel Almond, James Coleman and Lucian Pie., with Almond and his sidekick Sidney Verba leading the parade with the Civic Culture {[1963] that ranked societies by how close they each come to the civic culture of the US that promises great success etc., etc., etc., with the Vietnam
just looming on the horizon the led to blowing it apart with the resistance to the war and the mutiny of the troops driving LBJ out office that was not exactly how a civic culture was supposed to operate.
Indeed it was the members of this brotherhood who in either late 1968 or early 1968 early 1968 published an article in the American Political Science Review that concluded the opposition to the war was too insignificant to threaten LBJ’s reelection. I laughed then and the article still brings out a chuckle at the idiocy they were propounding.
But that’s only the tip of the iceberg for what this band of clowns has publi9shed to extoll the virtues of capitalists societies.
Who, after all, can forget (actually still remember) Fukujama and his “End of History” crap after the of Communism heralded the beginning of a new world that forever ended class conflict and portended the endless repetition of capitalist nirvana and others of that ilk who followed.
The real dynamics of social change and development is to be found in Col. Boyd’s OODA loop that points to how people act and react to events in the world which is based on the key word observation, orientation, decision, action, with action looping back to observation feeding into orientation that is the learned cognition based on apprehending the results of actions prompted by the decision which becomes the learned content of the cognition that is the basis for the orientation that is the foundation for subsequent decision and action.
Now t4he way these loop plays into and generates the satisfaction individuals in a community realize from their productive activity activity is that the more closely the value of their inputs reflects the value of the outputs they receive from participating in productive activities, the more they will be satisfied to maximize their effort they place into creating outp0uts; the converse, however, is that the greater the disparity between the value of the input they have to supply relative the value of the outputs they receive, and the value of the outputs received by others exceeds the value of their inputs, the greater is the dissatisfaction that will be generated that that generates opportion to the the existing system.
ANY SYSTEM IN WHICH THIS DISPARITY CONTINUES AND EVEN GROWS FOR LONG ENOUGH IS ON THE ROAD TO EXTINCTION.
Sure, you’re right. I hadn’t realized that the 2024 figures were out yet, so I’d just used the table I’d put together a few months ago based upon the 2023 figures. Given all of Europe’s economic problems, it’s not too surprising that the US has now pulled slightly ahead in PPP terms.
Certainly. I never meant to imply that even urban Chinese were nearly as affluent as ordinary Americans, though I do think that the gap is closing much more rapidly than most people realize.
The comparison I’d intended was between urban Chinese and most Third Worlders, such as the ordinary people of the Dominican Republic, whom I think are enormously lower in their standard of living despite having fairly similar per capita national GDPs.
And I do think that the outstanding Chinese urban infrastructure has to be taken into account when comparing their standard of living even with affluent Westerners.
Finally, here’s an interesting standard of living datapoint I found in another video from that same young South African woman. She showed the nice apartment of one of her friends, and I really do think that a pretty sizable fraction of ordinary Americans would be at least a little envious.
And once they discovered that the apartment came fully-furnished with a rent of just $300/month plus $100/year for utilities, they’d be even much more envious:
Video Link
Concludes about the value of the text:
Their conclusions bring to mind Mao’s analysis of the White Paper Mao issued explaining Acheson’s account for explaining events in China:
Such, indeed is the “high order of culture” of the conclusion of authors that:
Were that so, were the people of Fiji to fully commit themslves to an “inclusive” system, they could put themselves on the road to world power.
Idiotic does not fully describe their conclusion which confirms Mao’s assessment of the high order of the culture of not only the US, but the Western world that subscribes to it.
One must be careful when using GDP to compare between countries. Not all countries calculate GDP the same way.
The UK includes figures for prostitution and drugs to fluff up their numbers….WTF?
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/drugs-prostitution-they-are-part-gdp-too-u-k-says-n118286
The USA includes “imputations”. For example if your house can be rented at $5000 and you do not rent it out, but live in it instead. The US government still counts it as part of GDP….WTF?
https://www.bea.gov/help/faq/488
China, on the other hand does none of this. Instead it uses a much more conservative way of calculating its GDP. As to why China does this, is a matter for another discussion.
There is no doubt that living costs are much lower in China than in the US. But that’s what the PPP adjustment is for – to measure what average people can buy using local prices. So, even taking into account all the lower prices in China, including rent, the Chinese people are still poorer than Americans.
But there are certainly other considerations that GDP does not capture. GDP shows the amount of private goods, like rent, that people can buy. It does not include public goods that are not purchased which are also very important to life and happiness. For instance, in the video you linked, the woman says she leaves her bicycle outside at night and no one steals it. That is a difference between China and America that GDP figures do not capture at all. I would say that’s the difference between a country with Blacks and a country without Blacks. But whatever the reason, China provides its citizens with important non-traded goods – such as living safely in big cities – that Americans no longer have.
We should not forget thay USA, just as you said in some of yours older great articles has imputed costs at around 4 TRILLIONS (14% of economy, like whole GDP Germany, roughly).
It is, really. very difficult to accout for all this methodological inconsistencies, almost impossible.
Also, different international financial authorities and institutions very often have figures of GPD of same country differ by large amount (20-30% somethimes).
I recommend very short but great book “GDP, a brief but affectionate history” by Diane Coyle.
Princeton University Press (160 pages)
Abandon hope, all? I read of the Shanghai refugee population of a hundred to eighty or so years ago, had just assumed they all moved elsewhere, especially to their crime centres in Palestine and the U.S.A. Also, they were a minority of a minority there, most of the old refugee population was made up of Russians escaping from Jews.
Depressing news, but not surprising. Parasites evolve to make dislodgement difficult.
That is only really major in South Korea. Plenty of strange ‘love Israel’ protestant sects there, I know from jewish people that they have some places there where they can stay gratis.
Right👌👍
Or he might be an American teenager having some fun on the Internet…
Certainly he makes Chinese people look bad, which from a conspiratorial point of view might suggest he is not Chinese at all, but anti-Chinese.
Interestingly enough, when I first embedded that video, one of the Chinese commenters said he thought the rent for that apartment was so low because it had a security gate, which people don’t like.
I think what may have happened is that when the first wave of modern buildings were constructed, the designers followed the model of the West and included security gates.
But people soon realized that security gates were unnecessary in China and inconvenient, so they stopped building them.
Mamma Mia
As Voltaire predicted, they have become a menace to ALL humanity.
Keep on fooling yourself, racist. The Chinese are rich in satisfaction with their lives, communal solidarity, optimism for the future and in the basic decencies of life. You, in your Yankee sewer of ‘deaths of despair’, school massacres, unaffordable housing and health-care, mass homelessness and political HATREDS, are plainly jealous, but all you can do is sneer.
Wow, inside a gated community, very safe, and it even has a “western toilet” in a Tier-2 city (Kunming, basically at the southwestern periphery of the country). It is unclear how far from the city center this place is. The design of the furnishings are not to my taste. It is good that video cannot transmit olfactory cues. I might probably get so bored that I would spend much time before the flat screen, thanks to the illegal VPN box. I wonder how many Chinese people would live in a place this size.
Luckily the latest annual World Happiness Report was just released yesterday, so we can all check how much you are bullshitting us again, as usual.
2024 World Happiness Report
https://data.worldhappiness.report/table
Of course the usual suspect countries in Scandinavia appear in the top four spots; China ranks at #68, even behind Russia.
To understand America and Americans, one needs to understand the presses and how they work. A 1999 book written by a Professor C. John Sommerville is a must read. Sommerville lamented that the age of information in the 2oth century did not make Americans dumb. However, the situation is worse now.
The book has a descriptive title:
The following from Amazon’s introduction:
“We who live at the end of the twentieth century are better informed–and more quickly informed–than any people in history. So why do we also seem more confused, divided and foolish than ever before?Some pundits criticize the news media for political bias. Other analysts worry that up-to-the-minute news reports on radio and television oversimplify complex realities. Still more critics point out that today’s reporters can’t possibly be experts on the wide variety of subjects they cover. Historian C. John Sommerville thinks the problem with news is more basic. Focusing his critique on the news at its best, he concludes that even at its best it is beyond repair.Sommerville argues that news began to make us dumber when we insisted on having it daily. Now millions of column inches and airtime hours must be filled with information–every day, every hour, every minute. The news, Sommerville says, becomes the driving force for much of our public culture. News schedules turn politics into a perpetual campaign. News packaging influences the timing, content and perception of government initiatives. News frenzies make a superstition out of scientific and medical research. News polls and statistics create opinion as much as they gauge it. Lost in the tidal wave of information is our ability to discern truly significant news–and our ability to recognize and participate in true community.This eye-opening book is for everyone dissatisfied with the state of the news media, but especially for those who think the news really informs them about and connects them with the real world. Read it and you may never again know the tyranny of the daily newspaper or the nightly news broadcast.”
Definitely not.
My words reflect the general mental state of Chinese young people born after 1995: I will be full of nasty words to those I don’t like, but I will be polite to those I like.
My aggressiveness is the universality of the Chinese Internet, and it is the most real manifestation.
It was clear to me that an aggressive man like me would never get into CPC.
The admission of CPC members has very high moral and verbal requirements.
But I respect them. It is because of their benevolence and justice that the state is governed.
If you want to know more about the moral culture of the Chinese people, check out our highest rated TV series, Ming Dynasty 1566.
Although this is a machiever drama, I think it can better reflect the general mental state of the Chinese people.
The radical people and the conservative people here are basically two sides of the extreme.
About two minutes into the film I hear music played by a symphony orchestra. I doubt that something like that existed in the Ming Dynasty.
Oh, Has Been, what a clever Banderite troll you are. Symphony orchestras did not exist in Ming China! Clever boy! Your dog biscuit is in the mail.
Life just continues really. And to quote that wretched old souse, ‘only one link in the chain of destiny can be handled at a time’.
Same old same old,
again when it is related to China,
Chinese opinions are ignored and often twisted, fabricated,
Not surprised to see Western-biased mouthpiece or propaganda body spews anything good about China, years back they PRETEND caring about Chinese people and subtly agitating them against their own government,
Now lunatic west don’t even have the luxury and grace to ‘pretend’, they downright fabricated false tales that Chinese are living in misery, in poverty and only a military ‘liberation’ would free them.
Did any REAL Chinese consent to this dictation of their life?
This so-called ‘World Happyness Index’ is just another farce to promote vassal-ness as the ‘highest’ form to kneel in front of jewmerica,
to tell small nations give up their own dignity and sovereignty,
nordic nations are bunch of fags and chivavas, their existence are non-essential to the world struggle,
but China and Russia’s do matter to EVERYONE around the world, that’s why they ranked so low in a jewry oriented thinktank,
smear and psy-op, nothing surprise.
What surprise is anyone has a bucket of brain juice still believing these ‘thinktanks’
Chomsky and Herman in ‘Manufacturing Consent’ in 1988, outlined what ANY intelligent person knew. That the Western MSM ‘Free Press’ is nothing but a propaganda system for the ruling elites in the West. And the situation today is vastly worse.
China 45 places below the UK sewer? I’ve lived in the UK and I know how pissed off the chavs are. Take your phony, racist, survey and shove it where the gerbils frolic. Christ. I hate racists.
This shows that the symphony is indeed a great achievement.
Suitable as a TV drama soundtrack.
If you poke holes in this kind of issue, I can only worry about whether you have enough intelligence to understand the show.
Maybe you don’t even understand the basic logic of the character’s behavior.
I know (at least) two (in all matters but political) intelligent men. The two your comment brings to mind are (1) a neoconservative Evangelical Christian, proudly standing with Israel and (2) a loud and Liberal Progressive who won’t not stand with Israel because… you will soon find out..)
They are impossible to discuss politics with, because they’ve been propagandized by two highly-regarded periodicals full of very well-written articles. The neoconservative can’t be convinced of anything running counter to the narrative in First Things, while the Progressive Liberal regards as a backwards hillbilly anyone who isn’t a subscriber to The Atlantic. Progressive Liberals fawned over white hillbillies for a few New York minutes after (then) liberal J.D. Vance wrote a book in which he identified as all three; since Vance’s defection to the Republican Party, Progressive Liberals are back to hating any economically-disadvantaged person who isn’t also “intersectional” in some way.
Whereas, for me to consider shelling out that much money for a print magazine, it better be loaded with plenty of scratch-and-sniff perfume ads.
According to you, If you believe that our happiness index is low,I should believe Trump when he says America is a garbage country.
I watched the entire episode of Ming Dynasty 1566 that you presented. It showed a bunch of old men arguing about who was to blame for government cost overruns. This TV show is popular in China? Why?
It’s certainly a misleading phrase to use at the beginning of the piece, but they have more clarity in the main body.
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Epstein’s journalistic talent and the sympathy he expressed in his writing for the Chinese people, attracted the attention of Song Qingling, Sun Yat-Sen’s widow, who took him under her wing. Song Qingling was a visionary who recognized that China’s success in getting the support it needed would depend on the strength of its image overseas, and set about finding ways to enhance that image. Epstein was one of those ways. She enabled him to launch broad-based publicity campaigns targeted at audiences in the U.S. and Europe by leveraging her network of influential contacts and access to significant financial resources. Establishment of the monthly pictorial China Today with Epstein as editor-in-chief was an outgrowth of these efforts. As the country became more and more distant from the West, the publication effectively became (and remained) Communist China’s voice to the outside world.
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OK, so he’s really more aligned with Sun Yat-Sen’s widow, Song Qingling, than with Mao, but as Mao’s government becomes isolated in the world, the journal China Today becomes more notable. Mao handles Song Qingling with kid gloves because she is the widow of Sun Yat-Sen and both Mao and Chiang sought to present themselves as the natural heirs of Sun Yat-Sen. But Mao did not apply those same kid gloves to the foreigners that Song Qingling was acquainted with. The same article tells us:
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Despite their status as party members, sacrifice on the front lines and impeccable record of service to the state and the party, Crook and Epstein also were imprisoned in Qincheng Prison at the height of the Cultural Revolution, victims of irrational fears of foreign influence, intrigue and spying. This was a fate that befell a good number of foreigners. However, like most of the other foreigners who were imprisoned, Crook and Epstein were released in 1973 and invited to an official state dinner, where they received an official apology from Zhou Enlai. Only Rittenberg was missing. Asked by one of those present at the dinner about Rittenberg’s absence, Zhou Enlai responded gravely: “Li Dunbai has committed severe crimes against the state and its citizens. Because of this, he will remain in prison.”
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The story about Rittenberg which the article gives is particularly interesting, as it seems to be that Rittenberg simply underestimated how much power Jiang Qing, aka Madame Mao (the 4th wife of Mao Tse-Tung), actually held. From the same article:
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One of the targets of Rittenberg’s defamatory speeches was Jiang Qing, who for Rittenberg would always be the B actress and dance companion he knew from Yan’an and, in any event, hardly a threat to someone such as him, who wielded so much power and influence. This turned out to be a severe miscalculation that would ultimately lead to his downfall.
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In fact, none of these few Jews who worked with the Chinese government ever had any real power. They were used as it was convenient and easily arrested when conveniences shifted.
Well, that’s certainly possible. Then again, it’s exactly what you would say if you were actually an anti-China activist operating in disguise or even just some American teenager having fun on the Internet.
You sound more and more like Taiwanese. And your frequent threats to kill people suggests that you are probably descended from the gangsters that fled to Taiwan with the old, losing Nationalist (KMT) government. Many Taiwanese propagandists call themselves Chinese, which is true, but they pretend to be from the mainland, which is false.
I doubt that you reflect the young people in mainland China. Perhaps you are more typical of those in Taiwan’s gangster population.
Independence of thought is rare. In Austfailia it is illegal, as ‘terrorism’. In this country, for instance, there is a total prohibition on ANY discussion of Jews, Jewish power, the tenets of Judaism, Zionism, the history of Israel, Jewish influence over Western politics etc-anything but the ‘antisemitism’ crisis.
In all seriousness – a lot of the US science and engineering of the 20th century seemed to be Jewish migrants from Europe. Aside from the stuff taken from Germany after WW2…
Snide, sneering, race-hating venom, from the Banderite flunky, Has Been. You fascists really hate the ‘non-Whites’, of course, but when they are better in almost everything than the cesspool formerly known as Perfidious Albion, which is so necrotic and run by a puffed up pipsqueak Sabbat Goy like Mr. Starmer, it drives you insane with rage, doesn’t it troll. ‘Olfactory cues’??!! I can discern your stink of race hatred and arrogance through the screen, as ever.
You mean European Jews which populate Europe and the Americas. Millions of Jews are not ethnic Europeans…. The original Israelites themselves were not European. You can’t tell many Mizrahi Jews from the Palestinians. Needless to say – after 1947 when European Jews moved to west Asia – the European Ashkenazi and Mizrahi didn’t get along… Of course because or race
water transfers? are you serious??? be real.
In any event – rockets were invented in China. Everything after is an evolution. Same with the binary code which led to computers… European Jesuits developed it after studying “I Ching” from China. You need names and dates?
The Taiwanese use traditional characters, while I use simplified ones.
So I’m really not Taiwanese.Taiwanese use 殺,while I use 杀
Seriously, if you go through our 24 official histories, they’re full of murder, cannibalism, massacres.
We Chinese are like this, honest people, but if others keep pushing us, beyond a certain threshold we will become butchers.
I think what happened in Burma is a good indication of that.
Several Han warlords in Burma attached to the Burmese military government lured a large number of Chinese people to Burma to carry out telecommunications fraud.
When our government asked for the release of the people, they not only ignored it, but also wantonly massacred Chinese people.
And then within a few days, their armed forces were basically wiped out by another group of warlords.
Their Burmese junta patron was transferred directly to China to face trial.
I am a Chinese youth looking for fun on the Internet.
Spraying people is my hobby, which is a side reflection of China’s abstract Internet culture.
We can be polite in real life, but when it comes to the Internet, everything can be liberated.
Such is the case with the Chinese Internet.
If you read our tieba, you will gain a new understanding of our various levels of cursing.
I think our level of cursing is definitely much higher than that of foreigners.
As for people thinking I’m acting like an anti-China person, I don’t care.
The Chinese government can’t actually kill them. We don’t have a secret service for assassinations.
I was just scaring them to see if they reacted angrily enough. In this way, I am happy.
I think my first reaction was right.
What good is the “wealth” of the US when most people there live in dangerous or poor neighborhoods, with shitty infrastructure, ineffective schools, huge costs for medical care, etc?
That is a ridiculous comparison. The same party has been ruling Singapore since it’s independence. You can’t hold political protests in Singapore. In fact the PRC patterns itself after Singapore in many ways. Hong Kong never had democracy under the British until the end – as a poison pill. Taiwan was a military dictatorship until the early 90′.s So it was under martial law longer than it has been a supposed democracy. And aside from semiconductors it has become stagnant since… Failure for you on every comparison.
Anyone can learn the simplified characters. Indeed, a Taiwanese can hardly avoid encountering them, as the mainland has such an overwhelming presence. That you actually know the traditional characters suggests even more strongly that you are Taiwanese, as a mainlander would rarely see them.
You do indeed have a Taiwanese gangster’s outlook on life.
Taiwan and South Korea both have longer life expectancy than the US… Go figure they supposedly don’t care about safety and pollution… Explain that
You are a complete liar. China’s High speed rail was mostly based on Siemens and Bombadier – which China paid for. The reason it chose not to go with the Japanese is because of Japan’s evil refusal to own up to what it did in the 19th and 20th centuries to China. So Hitachi and Kawasaki were not favored. There is no need to be a liar.
Also several major disasters? Name them. There were not. There was only one. Which is better than any other system except Japan. In fact – only Japan has less fatalities than China’s. No need to lie and make things up.
Wealth matters because rich countries are generally better to live in than poor countries. That’s why people migrate from poor to rich countries (like from China to the US), not from rich to poor countries (the US to China). Of course, GDP per capita isn’t the only thing that matters. As I wrote above, collective goods like public safety are also important, and China has some better collective goods than America has. Nonetheless, collective goods don’t override the enormous benefits that living in a rich country like the US provides.
You can come up with descriptions of how life in America is terrible and life in China is great. But those are just words. Actions prove the opposite. People’s words often lie; people’s actions never lie. There are millions of Chinese who try to move to America. There are few Americans who try to move to China. That means life in America is better than life in China. Q. E. D.
Whatever you think I am, I don’t care.
I don’t have to convince you.
Because on the Internet, it is always difficult to convince others.
But if you want to attack someone you hate, it’s easy. Truth Vigilante is one of those people, Passing by is one of those people, and I tried to convince them, but it didn’t work. I think under the circumstances, I have no choice but to ask them to die.
And you’re clearly not the kind of bullshit that I hate.
So I’m not willing to attack you with any words.
The play was not well received at first.
The series first aired on Hunan TV in 2007.
Unfortunately, Hunan Satellite TV always likes to broadcast romantic dramas, which makes the audience do not like this historical intrigue drama.
The format of the television broadcast caused some viewers to watch incoherently, so the series was blocked by the copyright because of poor ratings.
Until the rights holders later sold it to the streaming platform Youku. The new way of broadcasting allows the audience to enjoy the show better. Because you just watch it once, you may not understand the logic of the character’s behavior.
I can summarize the show in plain language:
“What if the chairman of a company wants to funnel the company’s revenue into his own coffers?
General Manager A: I can do that, but my staff and I also scored some embezzled money.
Assistant Manager B: I can do that, but I’d have to dismiss General Manager A. He embezzled too much.
Clerk C: Chairman, it is wrong of you to put the common property of the company into your own coffers. How can you do this?”
Douban rated the drama 9.8 points, higher than the two dramas, Yes, Prime Minister and Yes, Minister.
Watching this drama can get a lot of insights into life. I myself cried several times while watching the show.
The problem of government overspending is a problem that every government has faced since ancient times. Our recorded history is too long, so most of the problems that are happening now in countries have similar things in our recorded history.
If you are an American, you will see the current situation in the United States from the partisan issues.
Trust me, if you watch the entire series, you’ll gain a new understanding of real life issues. At least you won’t show a lot of stupid questions.
Especially comparing the North Koreans to us.
Very simple; My reference (“…manufacturing facilities were moved abroad from Silicon Valley…“) was to what occurred over three decades ago, yet you are referring to present statistics.
The corporate behemoths were only surviving through (a) broad and pre-emptive patents that stymie innovation by others (b) prosecution of competitors inside US (c) propaganda supporting new calls for capital (d) the share market casino including buy-backs (e) buying up small competitors due to lack of own innovation.
It would be like the privileged British Raj moving back home from India. Would these people from US live in those “beastly” settler flats?
There was a regiment, division or some such group of Africans fighting for Germany in World War 2.
As usual, in your warped mind, any observation or critique is always automatically racist, which is why you lack any credibility. Though the video of the apartment had low resolution, it appeared to me that there was an ash tray beside the large double-bed and at least another ash tray on the coffee table beside the sofa. Also, the open kitchen was said to have an air fryer, and it is not clear how well the oil and steam gets ventilated there during cooking. The air freshener spray can above the rare “western toilet” suggests that the bathroom’s air circulation is not that good, notwithstanding the small window. Certainly with three bedrooms and only one bathroom the toilet and shower would get used more frequently.
Over time the accumulated residue from cigarette smoking (40% of Chinese men are smokers, as I have pointed out previously) and cooking will accumulate on the wall and ceiling surfaces. For this reason standard white walls, to reflect more light, would soon become discolored and exude a certain smell. It looks as if though this dwelling space in its raw form was conceived for five people, four adults and a kid – a family of three and the two grandparents on the male side – so it is peculiar that such an apartment is being rented with this style of furnishing by only one woman – who likes to wear jewelry. An inevitable question arises: What is the purpose for having two extra rooms with large beds?
It is not hard to imagine what is going on. Note that the walls have the same color as typical Chinese vulvas. The huge mirror in the living room is not affixed to the wall but is resting on the floor instead, so it could easily be moved. This appearance hints at the possibility that the apartment could be occasionally sub-rented – for instance during weekends – to function as an occasional private bordello. The large flat screens, in the bedroom and living room, would be show pornographic videos. The big mirror leaning on the wall would function well for self reflection while copulating in certain positions to establish facial contact that would otherwise not be the norm. Of course western women could charge much more for their services.
Though the viewers of the video were told how little her female friend pays to rent her apartment, what we are not told is how much she and her friends make altogether from utilizing it in the manner I have suggested.
Outbound tourists from China in 2024: 200 million. I wonder if the government is paying them to pretend they are not poor.
It is very odd that the locomotives and carriages look exactly like Japanese designs.
Siemens and whatever is the correct spelling of ‘Bombadier’, suppose that you mean the Canadian aircraft company, can have made little contribution. Siemens, sure, perhaps a little knowledge on track-laying and maintenance, possibly also numerical control. Little else.
What from ‘Bombadier’? Perhaps a little modelling and wind-tunnel testing of designs copied from Japan. What else could they do? Design a turbo-propellor driven high-speed train 🤣?
I stay by what I said in the first place, the meaningful requests for tender were to Japanese companies (as you say, Hitachi and Kawasaki, among others), and to SNCF in France. It was an entirely cynical information-gathering exercise, no tenders were ever accepted, and that had been the intention from the start.
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I think the middle class in the US is more stressed than the middle class in China. I don’t see a lot of new Chinese immigrants. I see people coming from Central and South America, Pakistan, Turkey, Africa, etc.
I sincerely hope their government would go along with western media lying mouth,
and shut down ALL tourists to abroad, to display the true disastrous life they have now
Other countries can count on their ‘rich-but-can’t-afford-fruits-and-beef’ neighbors,
namely kooks or japs to fill the void once Chinese left.
It’s the shape-shifting Ashkenazi who subverted Euro, Euro-North American and Euro-Australasian elites. Nothing to do with Mizrahis.
Ashkenizis also feel that Israel is theirs. It was their subversion that created it. Again, nothing to do with Mizrahis.
From their point of view, the problem arises from Netanyahu/Likud’s core supporters being Mizrahi with Mizrahis being happily ready to toss Ashkenazi Europeans out of Israel. That just leaves them confused and potentially homeless again.
They were of course expecting to build a European Israel when in fact they’ve received a Middle Eastern Israel – so they’re leaving in droves.
But yeah that’s the goal. Impoverish a country so the people are easier to manipulate and so they can buy up the assets cheaper
Nonsense analysis. As economies grow bigger it is not sustainable for them to maintain higher rates of growth. Not sure where you learned economics from. A when Xi got in power it did drop because he said from day one he wanted “quality over quantity”. So the focus of the economy shifted.
It’s funny that you can get so worked up about this recent index result, which has a clearly defined methodology and shows the various component scores. Perhaps a more appropriate name would be a satisfaction index. Note that the United States is ranked 24th, and Hungary, Croatia, and Greece are ranked lower than China.
It would be understandable that many Chinese are not highly satisfied, but you seem to be trying to deny this, notwithstanding all the objective circumstances. For instance, in the high technology labor sector in the Cantonese region it is not uncommon to work 72 hours a week (996 work structure), even though this technically illegal. Also, due to selective abortions of female fetuses, there is a noticeable surplus of males in Chinese society, many of whom must be frustrated, which could be occasionally addressed with a suggestion in my comment #205 and would be consistent with your own comment #146 (“Lots of Chinese have side business…“). In that comment I also alluded to another issue, in which Japan has undisputedly been at a much more advanced level. Even dear leader Xi has acknowledged the issue:
Seriousness?
Do I have to?
No, Has Been, that index is better called the ‘brainwashed’ index. Plebs indoctrinated from birth to imagine that a shit-hole like Starmer’s UK is paradise, and a vastly better country like China a hell-hole where the dread CCP will kill you if you have an independent thought. There are numerous other polling groups that actually ask Chinese how they think, and they invariably find high levels, ie 80-90% satisfaction or great satisfaction.
And why not? In the decades where the UK has sunk slowly into the shit, with rapid descents like Brexit, the Judeonazi led campaign to destroy Corbyn, a decent man who somehow led a UK political Mafia, and the current explosion of Judaic hatred of any who dare oppose their Gaza genocide (including decent Jews), China has boomed, standards of living leaped upwards, cities increasingly rid of pollution, education become the envy of the world, and it has built the greatest infrastructure ever seen etc, etc. But racist hate-mongers like you LIE that the Chinese hate their lives, for no other reason but your hatred and fear at China’s rise. As for toilets, the program is making great strides, and who but a moron or bigot would quote that fecking sewer the Economist, on ANYTHING to do with China?
No, no, Has Been. Any observation from a PLAIN racist, which you are, is deemed racist. QED. Your every contribution re. China REEKS of racist hatred and contempt, so typical of the Western Right. You quack like a duck, waddle like a duck, mindlessly shit everywhere like a duck, so I assume you are a racist duck.
Of course your type typically descends into irrational hatred, so deep is your contempt and fear. Your gratuitous and astonishingly vulgar (even for a Pom) references to ‘Chinese vulvas’, bordellos and ‘copulating in certain positions’ show just what a nassty nut-case you are. You’d best move to Kiev, and join your fellow loons, if you have not done so already.
What sort of brain-dead, brainwashed, moron talks of the USA as a ‘rich country’, when its wealth is so unequally distributed? And there are those who wish to move from China to the USA, because there are behaviours, principally parasitism and exploitation of others, that are frowned upon or repressed in China, but flourish in the USA. The USA is a giant corpse flower that attracts carrion flies from around the world.
Good. The criminals we have here should be a good fit for your country.
Our side observes that immigrants to the United States are basically criminals and mentally ill.
I think you must be very willing to accept, otherwise you would not say such a thing.
America is a penal colony.Q. E. D.
So, in your words, the early colonists were gentle.
So that means we can learn from your experience of scalping Indians, peeling white scalps and making leather…
Would you like to be such a specimen?
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Cut the malarkey. The oceans were already depleted before China got on the big stage (which is why China produces several times more in fish farms than it catches in the open ocean). Same with mining and pollution and forest destruction. You people are shameless revisionists
Most popular shows in China are about tackling corruption or uplifting people in the lower parts of society. Because those are the values the government wants people to think of.
There was a recent show called “The Knockout”’which had to do with tackling government corruption and organized crime.
To answer why that particular show would be popular – it’s because Chinese believe in learning from their own history. Not complicated at all. Chinese also have long attention spans. So those series typically run from 50 to even sometimes 70 episodes.
So in other words like every society that got rich after industrialization – they were willing to do the dirty work to get wealthy – and then clean up their acts. Got it…
Your repetitive tactic or modus operandi is so transparent to all. If one doesn’t glorify China or Chinese people, then it already constitutes “racist hatred and contempt“.
This is exactly the same standard formula regularly deployed so by many Jewish supremacists: If one doesn’t glorify Israel or Jews then one is inherently antisemitic.
In both instances these kinds of low level allegations and sewer propaganda as a mechanism of diversion comes from people who are incapable of rational thought.
Doing it everywhere in Asia. Lots of illegal home churches in China into ZioChristianity.
Don’t forget about Falon Gong, the weird Asian Scientology knockoff that controls almost all English-language China media.
However, 996 often corresponds to an annual salary of about 500,000 to 1 million yuan. And it’s mostly limited to programmers.
As far as I know, we don’t really have many side hustles. If someone does have a side hustle, it’s in the form of a hobby. I loved writing novels in college, and I still do it now and then.
I’m confused about your questions about toilets, especially when you give a strange example from 2015, we must have enough toilets, I can only walk a few steps to see one.
I’ve been to Japan and there aren’t as many toilets as we do. Now, the obvious problem with Japan is that they can’t even afford rice and have to buy it from us.
I suggest you stop reading The Economist, which has made you as intelligent as a wild dog on the road.
Why don’t you bark like a dog?
I think it should happen very rarely in our country now. Especially ZioChristianity.
After all, we are basically individuals here who know that Israelis should be slaughtered.
Maybe it was rampant in the 1990s, but it’s largely gone now, and the preachers are basically wanted fugitives in the United States.
Moreover, active proselytizing is forbidden in our country, and given that the majority of our country is atheist, proselytizing has no ground for belief at all.
If you see someone stopping you from preaching on the road, you can call the police and arrest him.
South Koreans are different.
South Korea is an American colony, they used to be slaves to us, then they were slaves to Japan, now they are slaves to the United States.
So they were obviously very heavily infiltrated by the Jewish religion.
Ok I misspelled Bombardier. I would rather misspell a name than to get facts wrong. Arrogant Japanese didn’t get what was going on. Facts are Siemens and Bombardier made money. Just like Siemens made money helping China start its maglev programs. China passed them all – including Japanese companies. You are obviously salty about it – but don’t make up lies. It’s actually pathetic for a “bushido” culture. Japan lost the HSR race. Fall on your sword … maybe maglev will offer some redemption…. but not looking likely
Yeah it’s a confused pot. Even more ironic is the religious Jews – don’t believe in the current state of Israel. It was the secular European ones who pushed for it. They don’t believe the Bible but want the land. Very confused. The Mizrahi and the religious ones note that before the Europeans showed up they used to get along with the Muslims and Arab Christians that lived there.
Ironically some of the South Korean fake Christian cult leaders – when they would run away from authorities in South Korea would move to China where they had operations. But the Chinese government would deport them when they found out. That’s also another reason China started to crack down on foreign religious leaders in the country. But yeah the west is either unaware of those or purposely hides it just so they can say “China oppresses religions”
No, no, no-I KNOW your type Has Been. Race hatred and contempt is central to Western Rightist psychopathology. I’ve met hundreds like you. Deny it all you like. I can easily refute your lies and half-truths, but the sewer from which they flow is undeniable.
The old saying goes: the proof of the pudding is in the eating
I have met many more English than I have Americans.
Never has a Englishman ever tried to correct my English.
But Americans do it routinely.
Well yeah the Turks ruled with a very firm hand a place for everybody and everybody in their place Struve and conflicts were not allowed.
As soon as the zionists arrived, 1880s same time they arrived in S Africa , America not just the USA Canada and Latin America as well they began their takeover.
Turkey was always at war in Europe or Arabia. The Jews immediately set up little businesses near army and navy bases. To spy on them. Farms and businesses along the major highways bridges railroad yards all strategic important points . Just getting ready for Turkey’s next war. To betray the Turks who allowed them to immigrate.
When WW1 began the zionists eagerly cooperated with the British European Jews bribed the British government . British took over Palestine 1922. Zionists began subverting British Palestine
And so it goes has gone and always go.
Is the very popular S. Korean Squid Game shown in China if so do people like it?
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What sort of brain-dead, brainwashed, moron talks of the Chinkland as a ‘rich country’, when its wealth is so unequally distributed and so sparse to begin with?
600 million Chinklanders live on under 1,000 yuan a month! That’s around $140 US dollars.
965 million Chinklanders live on under 2,000 yuan a month! That’s around $280 US dollars.
Well under 1 million Chinklanders make 10,000 yuan a month! That’s around $1,400 US dollars and the vast majority of them are Communist Party members engaged in either bribe taking or skimming a goodly chunk off the top of contracts. Others get to enjoy a corporate salary, as ALL corporations, of any size, in Chinkland MUST have a Communist Party group employed by the corporation
In other news, Chinaland’s economy continues to go downhill as VAT taxes dropped around 7% in 2024. All else being equal that means the value of purchases fell 7% and the economy fell 7%.
Chinkland is after all a giant corpse flower that IS AVOIDED even by carrion flies from around the world.
Say hello to “creeping socialism” where people spend time distributing the wealth of the nation, instead of producing more of it! LOL!!!!!!!!!
Very funny. I am definitely not a socialist or communist because I don’t think anyone should take what isn’t theirs. I’m for a society that is voluntary. Commissars are the last thing we need. Share, love, have compassion that’s what makes people happy and what we will have to build eventually. That’s why I’m an anarchist or whatever you want to call me it’s like liberatarianism but goes beyond it. Of course, at this time it’s impossible since people who are deeply traumatized usually want to do f-ed up things.
Not sure… That’s not part of my universe – LOL – nor the people I know on that side of the world. But maybe not. When South Korea made the dumb decision to host US THAAD programs – they lost a lot in China. All of their companies started to lose sales as people started to boycott them. And then the government – which has quotas on foreign media stopped approving some K-pop artists. But that was bound to happen as the government didn’t want media showing feminine men… That US missile battery just sped up the process of de-programming them. But specifically Squid Game – I don’t know… I mean there are some young people in China who like Taylor Swift – so it’s possible it’s popular with them..
Politics as well. In the USA people earn degrees in Political Science but there is really no such thing. They called Communism scientific as well but they joked, “a camel is a horse designed by a central committee” and “even a broken clock is right twice a day”.
‘People’s words often lie; People’s actions never lie’
Did this come from Confucius or the Book of Proverbs?
You think that ‘…people should not take what isn’t theirs..’. So you’re anti-capitalist, too, then.
I think he is anti-thief! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
Which makes him anti-Communist!! (most likely) ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!
When one is confronted with the falsity of one’s misguided beliefs, though opening one’s mind to a different view is always possible thanks to our reasoning faculties, hubris dictates that more often than not one becomes ever more steadfast in adhering to the misguided notion.
Hello, delusional Whiteman…
China succeeded not because of but in spite of the round eye. After all, China had been trading with the world for millennia while your racially superior White ancestors were still cavemen fucking and killing and raping and stealing all over Europe using stone-axes.
That would be the British Raj, wouldn’t it? After all, the reason why Qing China fell so far behind the West was due to the Indian Opium trade started by the British EIC and a group of Jewish and Indian traders during the 19th century. Then the KMT inherited the opium trade from the Qing Dynasty during the 20th century which was abolished only by the Chinese Communists after kicking out the KMT in 1949.
China did in fact create the predecessors to the modern world — the Silk Road and the Maritime Silk Road (circa 200BCE to 1500BCE) long before the UK and the USA even existed as nations. Now China is reviving the New Silk Road for the 21st century in the form of the BRI, across Asia, Europe, Africa, Oceania and Americas.
We have a Labor government in Australia. A govt minister, taking questions on a live broadcast, said that the government wasn’t going to do anything to reduce the cost of housing. The unaffordable housing issue is one of the top two or three issues in the country. Young people are resigned to never owning a house. Many can’t even find a rental, and camp out in parks- despite some of them having jobs.
The reason that housing prices can’t come down is that the whole economy is riding on house values. We don’t have a complex economy, in fact we aren’t even in the top 100. We extract resources, produce agricultural products, and flip houses. That’s it Now, between housing becoming unaffordable, and growing awareness that we are giving away our natural gas to mining corporations for free (!), things aren’t working. Conditions are ripe for revolution in the next decade. We are definitely going to see some form of socialism becoming more popular; our lasseiz faire deals with resource companies, combined with nanny -state repression for the masses, is not sustainable.
Whatever China is doing right, we should be taking notes of here in Australia. We could use harsh penalties for corruption. We could use a housing plan. Heck, we could use high speed rail, which we’ve talked about for forty years! At least Trump is doing us a favour by shaking up our “unshakeable” alliance with the US. Maybe that will open new possibilities.
High speed rail is fine in China, a country with massive population centres spread across the country. In mostly empty Austfailia it would be a white elephant, but, luckily, would never be built in several centuries like Snowy 2.0, Turnbull’s hilarious boondoggle. Face it, Austfailia is FUCKED, and climate destabilisation, as illustrated in the unprecedented flooding in Queensland, will shortly finish us off. That and millions of Indonesians fleeing for their lives from climate disruption. We done it , blasster-we done fucked it ALL up, and the rest is the high-pitched laughter of the cosmos.
Here’s a great video showing the Chinese building a 57-story skyscraper in just 19 days:
Video Link
This does not include all the time required to prepare the underground foundation. Much time is saved by utilizing prefabricated steel structures rather than pouring composite concrete vertical supports and repeatedly having to wait for it to harden. Also, the building is not being erected within a densely built up urban area so that the surrounding space can be utilized for advance staging of necessary components to enable just-in-time integration. Lastly, by today’s standards, the architectural design of this building is rather uniform, simplistic, and monotonous, with little aesthetic merit.
For comparison, take a look at the skyscrapers recently built or being planned in Miami, many of them hotels and condos. These buildings are pleasing to look at rather than being a boxy Lego-style eyesore. The city has the third most significant skyline in the US, after Manhattan and the Chicago’s lake shore. Obviously, constructing extravagant expensive luxury quality buildings will take up much more time. The following video describes some of Miami’s future infrastructure projects:
For aesthetic appeal, here is a link to just a few drawings of future condos:
https://www.condoblackbook.com/blog/january-2025-miami-new-development-and-pre-construction-condo-update/
Since the southern Florida real estate market has become extremely overvalued and on the verge of crashing again, there may be a slowdown of new projects even farther out in the future. Many of these high-end units will likely have to sell at a discount.
How many workers DIED during the construction of that building?
Thank you.
Zero.
But not to worry, for anyone so inclined, one can still make himself feel less alarmed at others doing well by simply adding the salty quip “Yeah, but at what cost?”
I recommend using this one liner for all things that the Chinese do. It will keep everybody calmer.
For example:
Yeah, China can build a 1000 bed hospital in 10 days in an emergency…but at what cost?
The Nobel Prize is best understood as Jewish propaganda.
Has Been, the racist Sinophobe and Banderite fan-boy, is now an architectural critic. Of course. And he lurves Miami, his home away from home. Pity it’ll be under water in a few decades, but I guess climate destabilisation denialism is another of his psychoses.
This apartment is very sad and weird. One little toilet for three bedrooms? How do you bathe a baby or a child? No books? No personal items on the floor, no beloved tchotchkes (knickknacks), etc. This is like an impersonal hotel room for transient adults, certainly unfit for a family. Especially for a Jewish family. Well, this is China 2025, no children, no pets allowed.