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It is very popular these days to talk and write about the “trade war” between the United States and China. But is there really one raging? Or is it, what we are witnessing, simply a clash of political and ideological systems: one being extremely successful and optimistic, the other depressing, full of dark cynicism and nihilism?

In the past, West used to produce almost everything. While colonizing the entire planet (one should just look at the map of the globe, between the two world wars), Europe and later the United States, Canada and Australia, kept plundering all the continents of natural resources, holding hundreds of millions of human beings in what could be easily described as ‘forced labor’, often bordering on slavery.

Under such conditions, it was very easy to be ‘number one’, to reign without competition, and to toss around huge amounts of cash, for the sole purpose of indoctrinating local and overseas ‘subjects’ on topics such as the ‘glory’ of capitalism, colonialism (open and hidden), and Western-style ‘democracy’.

It is essential to point out that in the recent past, the global Western dictatorship (and that included the ‘economic system) used to have absolutely no competition. Systems that were created to challenge it, were smashed with the most brutal, sadistic methods. One only needs recall invasions from the West to the young Soviet Union, with the consequent genocide and famines. Or other genocides in Indochina, which was fighting its wars for independence, first against France, later against the United States.

 

Times changed. But Western tactics haven’t.

There are now many new systems, in numerous corners of the world. These systems, some Communist, others socialist or even populist, are ready to defend their citizens, and to use the natural resources to feed the people, and to educate, house and cure them.

No matter how popular these systems are at home, the West finds ways to demonize them, using its well-established propaganda machinery. First, to smear them and then, if they resist, to directly liquidate them.

As before, during the colonial era, no competition has been permitted. Disobedience is punishable by death.

Naturally, the Western system has not been built on excellence, hard work and creativity, only. It was constructed on fear, oppression and brutal force. For centuries, it has clearly been a monopoly.

 

Only the toughest countries, like Russia, China, Iran, North Korea or Cuba, have managed to survive, defending they own cultures, and advancing their philosophies.

To the West, China has proved to be an extremely tough adversary.

With its political, economic, and social system, it has managed to construct a forward-looking, optimistic and extraordinarily productive society. Its scientific research is now second to none. Its culture is thriving. Together with its closest ally, Russia, China excels in many essential fields.

That is precisely what irks, even horrifies the West.

For decades and centuries, Europe and the United States have not been ready to tolerate any major country, which would set up its own set of rules and goals.

China refuses to accept the diktat from abroad. It now appears to be self-sufficient, ideologically, politically, economically and intellectually. Where it is not fully self-sufficient, it can rely on its friends and allies. Those allies are, increasingly, located outside the Western sphere.

 

Is China really competing with the West? Yes and no. And often not consciously.

It is a giant; still the most populous nation on earth. It is building, determinedly, its socialist motherland (applying “socialism with the Chinese characteristics” model). It is trying to construct a global system which has roots in the thousands of years of its history (BRI – Belt and Road Initiative, often nicknamed the “New Silk Road”).

Its highly talented and hardworking, as well as increasingly educated population, is producing, at a higher pace and often at higher quality than the countries in Europe, or the United States. As it produces, it also, naturally, trades.

This is where the ‘problem’ arises. The West, particularly the United States, is not used to a country that creates things for the sake and benefit of its people. For centuries, Asian, African and Latin American people were ordered what and how to produce, where and for how much to sell the produce. Or else!

Of course, the West has never consulted anyone. It has been producing what it (and its corporations) desired. It was forcing countries all over the world, to buy its products. If they refused, they got invaded, or their fragile governments (often semi-colonies, anyway) overthrown.

The most ‘terrible’ thing that China is doing is: it is producing what is good for China, and for its citizens.

That is, in the eyes of the West, unforgiveable!

 

In the process, China ‘competes’. But fairly: it produces a lot, cheaply, and increasingly well. The same can be said about Russia.

These two countries are not competing maliciously. If they were to decide to, they could sink the US economy, or perhaps the economy of the entire West, within a week.

But they don’t even think about it.

However, as said above, to just work hard, invent new and better products, advance scientific research, and use the gains to improve the lives of ordinary people (they will be no extreme poverty in China by the end of 2020) is seen as the arch-crime in London and Washington.

Why? Because the Chinese and Russian systems appear to be much better, or at least, simply better, than those which are reigning in the West and its colonies. And because they are working for the people, not for corporations or for the colonial powers.

And the demagogues in the West – in its mass media outlets and academia – are horrified that perhaps, soon, the world will wake up and see the reality. Which is actually already happening: slowly but surely.

 

ORDER IT NOW

To portray China as an evil country, is essential for the hegemony of the West. There is nothing so terrifying to London and Washington as the combination of these words: “Socialism/ Communism, Asian, success”. The West invents new and newer ‘opposition movements’, it then supports them and finances them, just in order to then point fingers and bark: “China is fighting back, and it is violating human rights”, when it defends itself and its citizens. This tactic is clear, right now, in both the northwest of the country, and in Honk Kong.

Not everything that China builds is excellent. Europe is still producing better cars, shoes and fragrances, and the United States, better airplanes. But the progress that China has registered during the last two decades, is remarkable. were it to be football, it is China 2: West1.

Most likely, unless there is real war, that in ten years, China will catch up in many fields; catch up, and surpass the West. Side by side with Russia.

It could have been excellent news for the entire world. China is sharing its achievements, even with the poorest of the poor countries in Africa, or with Laos in Asia.

The only problem is, that the West feels that it has to rule. It is unrepentant, observing the world from a clearly fundamentalist view. It cannot help it: it is absolutely, religiously convinced that it has to give orders to every man and woman, in every corner of the globe.

It is a tick, fanatical. Lately, anyone who travels to Europe or the United States will testify: what is taking place there is not good, even for the ordinary citizens. Western governments and corporations are now robbing even their own citizens. The standard of living is nose-diving.

China, with just a fraction of the wealth, is building a much more egalitarian society, although you would never guess so, if you exclusively relied on Western statistics.

 

So, “trade war” slogans are an attempt to convince the local and global public that “China is unfair”, that it is “taking advantage” of the West. President Trump is “defending” the United States against the Chinese ‘Commies’. But the more he “defends them”, the poorer they get. Strange, isn’t it?

While the Chinese people, Russian people, even Laotian people, are, ‘miraculously’, getting richer and richer. They are getting more and more optimistic.

For decades, the West used to preach ‘free trade’, and competition. That is, when it was in charge, or let’s say, ‘the only kid on the block’.

In the name of competition and free trade, dozens of governments got overthrown, and millions of people killed.

And now?

What is China suppose to do? Frankly, what?

Should it curb its production, or perhaps close scientific labs? Should it consult the US President or perhaps British Prime Minister, before it makes any essential economic decision? Should it control the exchange rate of RMB, in accordance with the wishes of the economic tsars in Washington? That would be thoroughly ridiculous, considering that (socialist/Communist) China will soon become the biggest economy in the world, or maybe it already is.

There is all that abstract talk, but nothing concrete suggested. Or is it like that on purpose?

Could it be that the West does not want to improve relations with Beijing?

On September 7, 2019, AP reported:

White House economic adviser Larry Kudlow compared trade talks with China on Friday to the U.S. standoff with Russia during the Cold War…

“The stakes are so high, we have to get it right, and if that takes a decade, so be it,” he said.

Kudlow emphasized that it took the United States decades to get the results it wanted with Russia. He noted that he worked in the Reagan administration: “I remember President Reagan waging a similar fight against the Soviet Union.”

Precisely! The war against the Soviet Union was hardly a war for economic survival of the United States. It was an ideological battle, which the United States, unfortunately won, because it utilized both propaganda and economic terror (the arms race and other means).

Now, China is next on the list, and the White House is not even trying to hide it.

But China is savvy. It is beginning to understand the game. And it is ready, by all means, to defend the system which has pulled almost all its citizens out of misery, and which could, one day soon, do the same for the rest of the world.

 

First published by NEO – New Eastern Outlook – a journal of the Russian Academy of Sciences]

Andre Vltchek is a philosopher, novelist, filmmaker and investigative journalist. He has covered wars and conflicts in dozens of countries. Four of his latest books are Revolutionary Optimism, Western Nihilism, a revolutionary novel “Aurora” and a bestselling work of political non-fiction: “Exposing Lies Of The Empire”. View his other books here. Watch Rwanda Gambit, his groundbreaking documentary about Rwanda and DRCongo and his film/dialogue with Noam Chomsky “On Western Terrorism”. Vltchek presently resides in East Asia and the Middle East, and continues to work around the world. He can be reached through his website and his Twitter. His Patreon

 
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  1. Precisely! The war against the Soviet Union was hardly a war for economic survival of the United States. It was an ideological battle, which the United States, unfortunately won, because it utilized both propaganda and economic terror (the arms race and other means).

    They scared the Capitalist Roaders in the CPSU(B), but Mao was not scared. His take on it was: “All reactionaries are paper tigers. In appearance, the reactionaries are terrifying, but in reality they are not so powerful. From a long term point of view, it is not the reactionaries but the people who are really powerful”

    Talk with American correspondent Anna Louise Strong. August 1946.

    Note the date. Shortly after the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki and before the war against Chiang Kai-shek and his US backers had been won.

    • Replies: @anon
  2. Cyrano says:

    Lenin was right: “The capitalists are going to sell us the rope with which we’re going to hang them”. OK, they didn’t sell the rope to USSR or Russia, they actually donated it to China – in the form of moving their entire manufacturing sector to China, starting in the 1990’s, and now it looks like China is going to hang them thanks to that manufacturing sector which the clever capitalists so generously donated to China.

    When the “communism collapsed” in the 90’s, the capitalists couldn’t resist to inflict one final farewell humiliation on the 2 leading socialist countries – China and Russia. As a parting gift, the clever capitalist decided to exploit the 2 main things that those 2 countries were famous for: China for their human resources, and Russia for their natural resources.

    How long did that last? In the case of Russia, they woke up pretty soon – less than 10 years after the collapse of “communism”, in came Putin and put a kibosh on the plundering of Russia’s natural resources, and for his troubles he was branded “dictator”, while of course, Yeltsin was not.

    Same thing with China. Their human resources were exploited by US for a very brief period of time, and then China turned the tables around and started exploiting the resources of US – their market – for China’s benefit. Sometimes when you think that you are too clever, you manage to outsmart yourself – for benefit of others. That’s what happened to the good old capitalism.

    • Replies: @Theo
    , @therevolutionwas
  3. joannf says:

    Slightly emotional with “The West” doing all the slavery and extraction of resources (that the natives had no employment for anyway, and philosophies of the 19th century were not 21st century ones) bit – sounds like western SJWLeftist argumentation to me, but then all I see online, from the Right, is the old “freedom and democracy” trope, falling tor the Deep State Hong Kong Regime Change distraction. The West is clearly dumbing down while we watch. and forcing it, loving it.

    The question is not so much WHY this is going on and who beside Barbara Spectre (“we must end the white race,” “the white race is a social construct”) really has a good reason for that, let’s call it “The West” instead and confuse the crimes of the Elites with the suffering of their clueless smallfolk. The question is if China and the rest of Asia will be able to resist the same mechanics.

    Isn’t it all about climate change, and CO2 ? And do not the Yellow Supremacists own “Ableism” and Smart Privilege ? That must go ! Are they not racist to boot what with not begging to be replaced by brown people ?
    Can they be accepted as true Socialists, Socialism and Egalitarianism being things that the philosopher Andre Vltchek seems to openly adore ?

    Personally, I agree with the “only player takes all, it was an easy win” talk, it’s not about morals – it’s about effects. I also think that the Chinese have gone through a lot of testing phases with their flavor of Socialism, so I would trust theirs more than our upcoming sort, or even our momentary sort of ‘democracy.’
    And I certainly have great hopes for them, they may even be the last hope for plus 100IQ tribes of humans, if our new and Chosen Culture of Critique successfully keeps eating/replacing its clueless children.

    On the other hand, Egalitarianism is as such not a good tactic for any species that wants to play a prolonged part in evolution. It’s rather a self-defeating one.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Tom Welsh
  4. Yee says:

    As long as China refuse to handover control on financial sector, and Russia on oil resources, war will continue…

    I don’t think it’s about ideology, never mind how loud they shout “freedom and democracy”. It’s about monopoly of wealth….

    • Agree: Showmethereal
    • Replies: @animalogic
    , @nsa
  5. Smith says:

    As long as every nations manufacture their own goods again, there will be no end to capitalism.

    When US and the world realize this, it’s over for China.

    Funny here people praise Mao, when Mao would have Deng Xiapin killed for being liberalizing his economy, then again, it’s the same Mao who shakes hands with Nixon for gibs. Communism is a joke.

    • Replies: @bluedog
    , @Druid
  6. @Yee

    Yes — “It’s about monopoly of wealth….” Or to put it another way, it’s about Power.
    Although, the ideological elements are not nothing’s. It really is a horror that China is succeeding with different ideas.
    The US has always suffered to some degree with hubris…. however, from the 1990’s that hubris became phycotic.
    How? The US has had exactly the same ability to engage in massive world wide investments, perhaps similar to BRI, to increase its economic & cultural influence. It chose a different path. A path notable for financial shenanigans & offensive military action.
    The US is pathologically resistant to the mere idea that it should slip down to mere first among equals. Sad.
    It’s like watching a (bunch of Hollywood stereotypes) of a guy become steadily more unhinged, hair plastered across his forehead, overflowing ashtrays & pizza boxes, muttering to himself about suicide or mass murder. Or both….the whole bundle of stereotypes.

    • Replies: @sally
  7. Anonymous[102] • Disclaimer says:
    @joannf

    > Isn’t it all about climate change, and CO2?

    Ask the Trump Administration, who publicly admits the Arctic sea ice is in a death spiral. Both Russia and China are well aware of the Arctic Amplification phenomenon of global warming, and busy making preparations for the upcoming BOE (Blue Ocean Event.)

    > Egalitarianism is as such not a good tactic for any species that wants to play a prolonged part in evolution.

    To upgrade your knowledge set from an ideological to a scientific understanding of the evolution of egalitarian behavior, I suggest this text by Christopher Boehm, Hierarchy in the Forest: The Evolution of Egalitarian Behavior, (Harvard University Press, 1999.)

    • Replies: @joannf
    , @Wally
    , @BlackDragon
  8. Yee says:

    animalogic,

    “Although, the ideological elements are not nothing’s. It really is a horror that China is succeeding with different ideas.”

    It would be a horror for the US too if EU/Germany/Japan is succeeding, enen though they have the same ideology with the US…

    Anyone who thinks it’s about ideology is just naive, ask the Russians.

    • Replies: @d dan
  9. d dan says:
    @Yee

    “It would be a horror for the US too if EU/Germany/Japan is succeeding, enen though they have the same ideology with the US…”

    In the long run, I think most/many nations in the world will outperform US. Just look at the trade numbers: US has deficits with almost all nations that it trades with. US economy is prop up mostly by the dollar reserve status and military spending/profits.

    Many Americans, however, are still in denial. They still think they are the most wealthy country/ largest market in the world,…, and therefore still can bully anyone. The trade war is a vivid manifestation of that hubris (“trade war is easy to win”, “we will force China to …”, blah,blah,blah)

    • Replies: @Franz
  10. joannf says:
    @Anonymous

    My knowledge set is entirely neuro-anthropologic, and you should always try to be on the lookout for sarcasm in what I write.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  11. Anonymous[291] • Disclaimer says:
    @joannf

    And now you know why Trump wants to buy Greenland; he’s well aware of what is happening.

    • Replies: @joannf
  12. anon[837] • Disclaimer says:
    @foolisholdman

    You Chinese propagandists have such short memories. Throughout the Cold War, it was the USSR that opposed Western geopolitical plots and hegemony. China just screamed loudly while doing nothing, and then of course jumped to the U.S. side around 1971, working against the USSR.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
    , @Vidi
  13. nsa says:
    @Yee

    “As long as China refuses to hand over control of the financial sector…..”
    The crux of the dispute is the Chinese refusal to allow the “foreign financial services sector” (the jew) into their domestic economy to pillage and loot the population……payday loan centers, reverse mortgages, front loaded funds, scam annuities, overpriced insurance products, 18% credit cards, 84 month car loans, ninja home equity loans, etc etc. The Chinese are well aware of what happened to their Russian neighbors in 1991 when the IMF parachuted in Jeff Sachs and his jew boys to introduce western style capitalism to the former proletariat. Within a couple of years, a handful of jew oligarchs owned the vast wealth of Russia…..surprise, surprise.

  14. Franz says:
    @d dan

    Many Americans, however, are still in denial.

    The regime Americans live under is keeping them from knowing much. About China (Communist in name only) and even their own past. By “regime” I include the media.

    US workers were low-paid expendables for the first century, just like the Chinese were at first. What should cause Americans to crap their pants is that it took China years what took Americans decades. But what can we expect when the gov’ment gives giant corporations tax cuts every election cycle, which the use to send more work out, and predator capitalists scream bloody murder that raising the minimum wage a few cents might cause inflation?

    “Turbo-Capitalism” was the title of Edward Luttwak’s book warning of most of what’s now happening. That was 20 years ago. In that time the great bulk of the nation has learned nothing, and the predators on top have forgotten — and changed — nothing.

    • Agree: FB
  15. “Increasingly, I consider myself a Communist and an internationalist, not a Marxist.” – ANDRE VLTCHEK

    Fact: Marx invented Communism. The author’s claim he is a Communist but not a Marxist is absurd. Vltchek is a typical utopian left opportunist. He is employed by RT, which is controlled by Russian oligarchs.

    In this article he praises the fake Marxist CCP. One day the CCP will be of no further use to its bourgeoise owners. Like the fake Marxists (Khrushchev, Gorbachev, Yeltsin & Co), who took over the CPUSSR and eventually imposed neoliberalism, the Chines bourgeoise will do the same to the CCP. China isn’t going through a Socialist Revolution. It’s going through a counterrevolution.

    • Replies: @Tom Welsh
    , @foolisholdman
  16. onebornfree says: • Website

    A. Vitchek says: “Or is it, what we are witnessing, simply a clash of political and ideological systems: one being extremely successful and optimistic, the other depressing, full of dark cynicism and nihilism?”

    No, it is not a clash between two systems at all. That’s an illusion, a [deliberate?] misrepresentation.

    What we are witnessing is, in fact, a minor argument between 2 competing factions of the very same collectivism :

    [1] modern US socialism [crony capitalism]……

    versus [2] full on Chinese communism/fascism.

    And by the way, both collectivist variants are almost equally “depressing, full of dark cynicism and nihilism”

    US socialism [ or mercantilism/ state capitalism/crony capitalism] is nothing more than a slightly watered down version of China’s totalitarian communism which historically always inevitably leads to totalitarian communism as gloriously exhibited in China these days. [Simply because people refuse to learn from history].

    The US has not been anything like capitalist since at least the Civil war; it has steadily gone down the socialist/collectivist road as its economy has become evermore centralized, cumbersome, and more collectivized, and far less free market, and as its citizens have likewise become far less free, as their government has continued to grow and become evermore intrusive into their private lives and public businesses.

    And yet numbskulls like Mr Vitchek continually misrepresent the modern US socialized economic system as “capitalism” [a transparent “straw man” argument tactic], when today, the US economy is almost entirely collectivist/socialist, and well on the way to full blown communism, which is exactly why the US is slowly losing economic power and is doomed to collapse, and also why the even more collectivist, even less free market, full-on communist Chinese economy is also doomed to fail, most likely well before the US economy fails, simply because it has the “advantage” of being even more idiotically commie than the US economy currently is.

    “Regards” onebornfree

  17. onebornfree says: • Website

    onebornfree says: “the even more collectivist, even less free market, full-on communist Chinese economy is also doomed to fail, most likely well before the US economy fails, simply because it has the “advantage” of being even more idiotically commie than the US economy currently is. “

    Here we go:

    Office Vacancies In China Hit Decade High Amid Economic Turmoil
    https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/office-vacancies-china-hit-decade-high-amid-economic-turmoil

    World Stocks Drop, Futures Tread Water After China Reports Worst GDP Growth In 30 Years
    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/world-stocks-drop-futures-tread-water-after-china-reports-worst-gdp-growth-30-years

    Panic Behind The Scenes: China’s Capital Outflows Are Soaring
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/panic-behind-scenes-chinas-capital-outflows-are-soaring

    Shanghai Housing Sales Plunge 86% In Golden Week
    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/shanghai-housing-sales-plunge-86-golden-week

    “Worst Slump In A Generation”: China Auto Sales Continue Historic Collapse
    https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/worst-slump-generation-china-auto-sales-continue-historic-collapse

    onebornfree

    • Replies: @onebornfree
  18. Anon[424] • Disclaimer says:

    Since the era of Reagan-Thatcher-John Paul II ( Woytila ) we , the west , are going backwards .

  19. Lin says:

    It’s basically another war by US capitalists on ‘size'(economic,military, tech..) or war to maintain hegemony. Past examples:
    –Before WW1, if one cares to dig up some history, the country US likely to go to war against was the british empire.
    –Before WW2, though USSR was an ideological threat to US capitalists, it wasn’t big enough.
    –After WW2, the british empire vanished and there started cold war with USSR.
    –During the 1980s, japan which was under US military occupation was seen as an econ and tech threat and then forced to accept the ‘Plaza Accord’ and be contained.
    –Trade war with china is just another episode. I actually like trump’s trade war(which will come regardless who occupies the white house) because it heightens Chinese resolve
    ………….
    Pat Buchanan said WW2 against Hitler was unnecessary because it weakened western capitalism
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Churchill,_Hitler_and_the_Unnecessary_War

  20. Tom Welsh says:
    @joannf

    ‘Slightly emotional with “The West” doing all the slavery and extraction of resources (that the natives had no employment for anyway…’

    So, joannf, if you have $100,000 sitting in a bank account that you have chosen not to spend yet – because you are perhaps keeping it for retirement or a college fund – you wouldn’t mind if I were to steal it and spend it myself?

    Whether the “natives” had any use for their mineral resources is beside the point. Those resources did not belong to the capitalist pirates who stole them (using great violence, moreover). Often the “natives” were compelled to do the mining and hard physical work for little or no payment – and killed if they complained.

    • Agree: Commentator Mike
  21. Tom Welsh says:
    @barry lyndon

    “Fact: Marx invented Communism”.

    Perhaps, in the sense that Marx and Engels were the first prominent Western figures to talk about “Communism” and “Communist” in the sense of a definite political movement.

    On the other hand, it is plain to anyone who has read the New Testament that Jesus Christ was a communist. He instructed his followers to treat all other people with as much love and care as themselves, and to forgive all violence.

    The story goes back much, much further, though. Sociologists and anthropologists will tell you that all “primitive” peoples, without exception, practice a kind of informal communism. As documented by writers like David Graeber, they typically give to everyone what they need when they need it, and never require that the exact equivalent be repaid. Indeed, some react with outrage to the very suggestion: for them, cold-blooded accounting of debts and credits is for enemies. Friends share what they have, and inevitably those with more give more while those with less give what they can.

    The artificial, unnatural and harmful idea of “everyone for himself” only arose after the advent of big towns and cities, where rascals could successfully connive and cheat without immediately stinking in the nostrils of the entire community. And according to Michael Hudson (“… and forgive them their debts”), Jesus meant that creditors should literally forgive the debts owed to them and release people who had been enslaved for debt. That’s why he was killed.

    • Agree: FB
  22. @anon

    The USSR did more because it could do more as it was more developed and more powerful. China still contributed to the anti-imperialist struggle what it could and in the Korean war it did a hell of a lot.

    • Replies: @anon
  23. Arioch says:

    Greta might be most recent desperate attempt of TNCs at preventing their fragmentation.

    In russian: http://worldcrisis.ru/crisis/3468059

    But probably futile one, as it already was in Ancient and Middle Ages.
    Rich West can close their markets from competition using Gretagate. But it can not police emerging markets that way, so will loose them and go into historic sunset

  24. This is typical Vltchek: one part truth, ten parts non-sense.

    In the process, China ‘competes’. But fairly: it produces a lot, cheaply, and increasingly well. The same can be said about Russia.

    China yes, but Russia? They’re a major player in the arms market, but they really don’t export any civilian goods at all–just oil and natgas.

    These two countries are not competing maliciously. If they were to decide to, they could sink the US economy, or perhaps the economy of the entire West, within a week.

    Russia couldn’t do that. Now the Chinese could, but never would. Why would they want to kill off their largest customer? Makes no sense! Trump knows that. We’re now ‘too big to fail’, and he’s going to use that as leverage in his negotiations.

    There is nothing so terrifying to London and Washington as the combination of these words: “Socialism/ Communism, Asian, success”.

    Vltchek is actually on to something here. What China now has–its ‘socialism with Chinese chararcteristics’–is actually a contemporary form of national socialism, not at all unlike what the Germans had under Hitler. And what both Germany and now China have shown is that national socialism actually works pretty damn well A little bit of native ingenuity, combined with heavy doses of patriotic state-planning, can lead to fantastic, broad-based national growth and achievement. We even know this (to a limited extent) from our own history: the Eisenhower Interstate, the space program and even the internet were all national projects organized and directed by the government.

    Not everything that China builds is excellent. Europe is still producing better cars, shoes and fragrances, and the United States, better airplanes.

    Airplanes? Maybe pharmaceuticals, but airplanes? Is Vltchek unaware of the problems that Boeing is having?

    The only problem is, that the West feels that it has to rule.

    No. It’s really just the Rockefeller-Rothschild Axis that feels entitled (and determined) to rule the whole world. The rest of us just want our own country back. That’s all.

    Lately, anyone who travels to Europe or the United States will testify: what is taking place there is not good, even for the ordinary citizens. Western governments and corporations are now robbing even their own citizens. The standard of living is nose-diving.

    There you go. See what I mean? It’s not the little people who are causing the problem. It’s the globalist élites.

    • Replies: @FB
  25. sally says:
    @animalogic

    “It’s about monopoly of wealth….” Or to put it another way, it’s about Power.

    You guys need to consider there are two divisions in America.. the Americans who are governed by the USAers.
    Group A, the Governed, is 350,000,000 strong, group B, the Governors, is 527 persons weak, but Group B has all of the power.. something seems wrong with the balance of power..
    Capitalism is for those who have some capital. the average member is Group A has nothing ..how can this come about? Capitalism is often blamed but I blame access to education and opportunity.. and that ain’t capitalism. I agree, its monopolism. ..copyright, patent, privatization, government contracts to private sector.
    Monopoly power, the power to deny others the right to compete, is the problem, not capitalistic wealth.

    Capitalistic wealth is needed.. even in socialism.. it either comes from the private sector or from the government. but it is needed.

    • Replies: @animalogic
  26. @Tom Welsh

    All inbred peoples practice a form of informal communism. FIFY.

    • Replies: @MEFOBILLS
  27. So, Russians aren’t European?

  28. anon[837] • Disclaimer says:
    @Commentator Mike

    China, even under a so-called communist regime, has always been more orientated towards the Anglo maritime powers than the continental USSR. Thats why the Sino-Soviet split happened so quickly. SIno-Soviet friendship was barely 10 years, the 1950s. DOn’t forget, China twice sided with Anglo-Americans agianst genuine anti-Western competitors like Imperial Japan and later the Soviets. It makes sense why Israel sold them so many weapons secrets while the controlled US media pretends to be bothered by it but actually doesnt give a shit lol.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
    , @denk
  29. With friends like the author, China doesn’t need enemies. He is one of those who excessively lavishes praise upon a system that is largely dependent on west, all the while criticizing it. Even if the Chinese weren’t at once thinking about going to war against America, it will be lulled into believing that it has what it takes to counter the military might of the developed nations by Vltcheks of the world. Caveat emptor!

    • Replies: @anon
    , @foolisholdman
  30. anon[837] • Disclaimer says:
    @Really No Shit

    Haha finally someone gets it. China is dependent on the West and is a creation of Rockefeller globalist interests since 1978, yet idiots want to believe China is a genuine competitor to the global system. The last genuine competitor to the ((West)) was the USSR, end of discussion.

    • Replies: @onebornfree
  31. FB says: • Website
    @Digital Samizdat

    China yes, but Russia? They’re a major player in the arms market, but they really don’t export any civilian goods at all–just oil and natgas.

    Ignorance is bliss, as they say…

    Russia DOMINATES the nuclear power industry with a global share of more than 60 percent…

    Russia is manufacturing 67% of the world’s nuclear plant deals currently in development, which makes Rosatom the world leader in building power plants abroad, with a global market share of 60% of all nuclear power plants planned or under construction.

    Russia and its role as nuclear power exporter

    This is a hugely important global industry that Russia now controls…

    Also Russia has big lead in technology…its fast-breeder reactors promise to close the fuel cycle and make nuclear waste a thing of the past…a huge leap…

    The first such reactor is already online and connected to the grid…and China has inked a deal to buy them, as it strives to advance its own nuclear energy capabilities…[Russia built the very first nuclear power plant in 1954]…

    Russia is also in the forefront of fusion technology…[the tokamak was invented in Russia]

    Nuclear powered icebreakers…a floating nuclear power station has recently been completed…

    Besides nuclear Russia exports many products…energy exports are only half of total exports of over $240 billion…

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Anonymous
  32. anon[837] • Disclaimer says:
    @FB

    I think the reason Western elites hype up China and downplay Russia is because deep down inside they know Russia is infinitely stronger, both spiritually and materially than China ever will be. China will always fold to strength like cowards, despite their propaganda, its not in their nature to fully devote themselves to struggle, they just want to trade and suck cock of those above them.

  33. Anonymous[367] • Disclaimer says:
    @FB

    Mr. President, we must not allow a icebreaker gap!

    The “Leader” would be powered by 110 MW nuclear power plant (hence the 110 in the designation) and be charged with being one of many ships keeping the North Sea route open.

    The “Icebreaker Gap”: How Russia is Planning to Build more Icebreakers to Project Power in the Arctic
    https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/icebreaker-gap-how-russia-planning-build-more-icebreakers-project-power-arctic-29102

    And how about those floating nuclear power plants?

    Russia Built A Floating Nuclear Power Plant, Now It’s Making An Arctic Journey Despite ‘Chernobyl’ Comparisons
    https://www.newsweek.com/russia-floating-nuclear-power-plant-chernobyl-comparison-1452615

  34. MEFOBILLS says:
    @Redneck farmer

    All inbred peoples practice a form of informal communism. FIFY.

    Your snark asid, all tribes of people formed communities that were fairly small.

    These small communities DID INDEED have a lot of DNA in common. They were extensions of their families. The human animal can only range so far. How far of a range do you think men went to court women in other distant tribes?

    This idea of in-breeding causing genetic problems is false. If you stop to think even for a moment, then you must come to the conclusion that second cousin (or even first cousin) marriage was commonplace.

    In the past they performed a vicious form of eugenics, where the unfit babies were left out to die.

    Redneck farmer is a product of the public skooll system no doubt, and god help us all.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
  35. MEFOBILLS says:
    @Tom Welsh

    The artificial, unnatural and harmful idea of “everyone for himself” only arose after the advent of big towns and cities, where rascals could successfully connive and cheat without immediately stinking in the nostrils of the entire community.

    This is exactly correct, despite “redneck” snark.

    Tribes of people REMEMBER WHO THEY OWE WHAT.

    Credit between small tribes is known, and hence you don’t need money.

    If Mary gets a window fixed by Roger, then maybe she gives Roger a BJ as payment for window credit. Mary was in debt to Roger for one window, and Roger had credit over Mary.

    People simply remembered everything and when you got to tribes of 200 or more, then it became more difficult.

    At that point, Talleys of some type came into being, which were evidence of private debts among lager tribe members.

    Clay ledgers from the past are mostly talleys and records of debts and credits.

    It is absolutely the case, that when money came into existence in the temples, it came in as a legal mechanism, but it lost the former “remember credit” nature of tallys.

    This nature of money as a bearer instrument “pay to the bearer upon demand” did indeed allow rogues, criminals, and cheats to use it to their advantage.

    Why do you think Jews are always so insistent on owning the money power throughout history. When they were the Aiparu (Haibaru) wandering tribes, they were donkey caravaneers, operating between entrepot cities throughout the middle east.

    Controlling this bearer instrument has always been their game, and other predators would like to control it too given then chance.

    Money’s true nature is law, and the sooner people wake up to that fact the better. Money is not credit, but instead it settles credit/debt relations.

    • Agree: FB
    • Replies: @FB
  36. Numa says:

    The general idea that China is in the path of greatness is correct.
    But then your article, your words and phrasing are shale and poor, often outright wrong and equivocal.

    For instance, you misattribute China to being a Communist country, which it is not, by any means, today. Neither is it Capitalist – the closest thing it is today is Fascist, with its State Corporatism, and its view on culture. It’s a very conservative country, like when Stalin tried to copy the then German cultural approach, instead of the aculturation promoted by Marx, Engels, Lenin and Trotsky.

    You could call it “Socialist”, considering that in the past there was a Right-Wing Socialism, coming from the Guild tradition and pre-Industrial Europe as a whole. But today this word, and what it means in the West, is entirely not what China is.

    You also don’t know ‘why’ China has become so strong. It copied the Imperial Japan economic system, which in turn copied the old Australian model, which copied the Revolutionary American model.
    This model is called the ‘American System of Economics’, its main fathers were Benjamin Franklin first, then Lincoln later. It’s laid out in full in the book by Friedrich List “The National System of Political Economy”. Marx knew of this book and was completely against it – making then “Communist China” discard the most of Marx: its economics.

    This is so true, that’s even admitted:
    “China, under Deng, took on the clear features of a ‘developmental dictatorship under single-party auspices.’ The PRC would then belong to a class of regimes familiar to the 20th century that have their ideological sources in classical Marxism, but better reflect the developmental, nationalist views of Friedrich List.”

    A Nationalist system, Western. National Socialist Germany used this system, and it was a system that was the biggest threat to Globalism and the Jewish Banking system that ever happened.

    Until today. China has revived it and is again a threat.

    Then comes your worst mistake: you said the West is many things, and has done many things, today and in the past, but your analysis is wrong. The private (Jewish) Indian Companies were responsible for most of the “oppression” you describe, and the Jewish lobby and banking monopoly in the world today has taken over Western governments, to the point where the West came from being something like China in the past (economic and culturaly) to what it is today, a Leftist dystopia.

    So yeah, you’re bullshit. I could keep on, but I said too much and I won’t waste my time any further.

    • Replies: @MEFOBILLS
  37. onebornfree says: • Website
    @anon

    anon[837] • Disclaimer says:“The last genuine competitor to the ((West)) was the USSR, end of discussion.”

    Sure, but only if you are willing to entirely ignore the fact that the Russian revolution was to a large degree funded by US interests , and subsequently continually bailed out by the US/West [because idiots over here apparently believed in the USSR’s idiotic economic system], otherwise it too would have collapsed a lot sooner than it ended up doing. Some”genuine competitor to the ((West))”. 🙂 .

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Replies: @anon
  38. MEFOBILLS says:
    @Numa

    Good job Numa.

    This model is called the ‘American System of Economics’, its main fathers were Benjamin Franklin first, then Lincoln later. It’s laid out in full in the book by Friedrich List “The National System of Political Economy”. Marx knew of this book and was completely against it – making then “Communist China” discard the most of Marx: its economics.

    The genealogy is close, so I will update it a bit to my knowledge:

    The first evidence in the Colonies, was probably Mass Bay.

    Cotton Mather probably learned it from someone unknown. They needed to make cannon and other iron works, and had plenty of iron ore: they had craftsmen from England, but no money.

    They then issued local bills of credit, and forced merchants to take the bills as if they were money. In other words, the colony bypassed the usurious gold system, and put everybody to work.

    Later, when British ships would come into harbor, they would be astonished at the cannons pointing at them from surrounding fort-like structures.

    The bills of credit were a form of mutual credit, and later MASS BILLS were issued by the colony as money. These mass bills effectively circulated as debt free notes and were money good for paying taxes and settling legal debts.

    Benjamin Franklin’s ideas came later, but were part of the American experience. Franklin had a STATE BANK, and issued notes (state bank credit) based on land, which was plentiful.

    The land notes had 8 year terms, and hence did not go exponential and become usurious. At the same time, Franklin issued NEW bank notes from nothing, so the public could pay the interest on their bank loans. The interest paid into the bank, then fluxed outward in a cycle to pay for roads, bridges, and the commons. This was a form of improving the commons, so everybody became more productive.

    The American system of economy started in the colonies, and then was re-learned repeatedly throughout history. Frederick List took it to Germany, where it was obviously successful under the Kaiser, and later Hitler. Japan ran the system during and post WW2 using credit guidance windows. Japan especially ran the system via Manchurian rail-road engineers, another point of contact to China.

    China copied the system from Taiwan and Japan. The line of causality for China is also through Henry Carey’s son, who taught Chiang Kai Sheck while he was in Hawaii.

    Tsar Nicholas II was intent on copying the American system from Lincoln via Carey, and was going to break up the big Russian land holders, and bring in American rail stock. This may be yet another reason that Boslheviks (Jewish agents of wall street/london corporate finance) attacked Russia.

    America suffers from amnesia and has lost her past. She got duped by the (((banksters))) and now is having her past erased by population replacement.

  39. @anon

    Considering how many times Chinese have been had by both primitive and not primitive outsiders it is obvious that spirit of struggle to the end at any price does not exist. Chinese are basically sibarites and mercantilistic people.
    One cannot be dominant power solely based on capability to produce lots of things and large GDP.
    Mao rightfully observed that power growth from gun barrel and this is not China strong point.

    • Replies: @anon
  40. anon[837] • Disclaimer says:
    @onebornfree

    I know that, but Stalin purged alot of subversive elements…

  41. Theo says:
    @Cyrano

    Good comment.Spot on.

  42. FB says: • Website
    @MEFOBILLS

    If Mary gets a window fixed by Roger, then maybe she gives Roger a BJ as payment for window credit.

    OTOH…if Roger is particularly ‘talented’ then perhaps it will be Mary fixing the window [or a nice meal] as payment for the ‘pearl necklace’ from Roger…

    Either way…your comments here are excellent…keep it up…we need to understand these basics but unfortunately most people simply do not…and they just simply refuse to use that head for its god-given purpose of figuring stuff out…

    • Replies: @MEFOBILLS
  43. anon[837] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sergey Krieger

    The Japanese are the natural hegemons of East Asia when left alone, unlike now being occupied and brainwashed by the ((West)). Japanese traditionally have a been a people who combined warrior ethos with diligence in non-martial pursuits. The Chinese are a sorry excuse for a people considering their huge population…

  44. MEFOBILLS says:
    @FB

    and they just simply refuse to use that head for its god-given purpose of figuring stuff out…

    Thanks for the reply FB.

    I do mind when people refuse to change direction when they have been corrected. For example, one-born-free is an example of somebody who is wedded to his ideology, despite being shown correction.

    There is another class of people who have been duped unwittingly.

    For example, flows of money recycle from predatory finance, and then into economic curriculum. From there, it pays for hypnosis like neo-liberal junk economics.

    Some books when translated into English leave out key passages. For example, Aristotle on the nature of money being law doesn’t make it to translation. ((Who owns the press organs in the West?))

    The West has been colonized by “state sponsored usury” which is a mortal sin. The Church no longer stands opposed to the mechanism, and has been infiltrated.

    Hoffman as written a pretty good book, which should get all Zionist Christian’s attention:
    Usury in Christendom: The Mortal Sin that Was and Now is Not

    We are living in an age of mass deception, so most people are hypnotized and duped, and you see evidence of it here in the comment section.

    Again, my issue is with people who refuse to take correction – these type of people are agents of deception, or they have some sort of problem in that they don’t want to re-write their narrative operating system, because they will become un-moored. In that case, they are simply girly men, not brave, and without substance.

    • Replies: @FB
  45. Agent76 says:

    Oct 14, 2019 China’s Xi Warns Any Attempt to Divide China Will End In “Shattered Bones”

    Chinese President Xi Jinping warned on Sunday that any foreign actors attempting to divide China would be “crushed” as he held Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) discussions in Nepal, reported Reuters.

    Jul 31, 2018 How Africa is Becoming China’s China

  46. Nalca says:
    @Tom Welsh

    On the other hand, it is plain to anyone who has read the New Testament that Jesus Christ was a communist. He instructed his followers to treat all other people with as much love and care as themselves, and to forgive all violence.

    Jesus was a communist ? Where did he say we have to share our means of production ? Or perhaps you consider him a communist because he say all humankind can be saved, not only the jewish people ?

    Either you have never read the New Testament or you don’t know anything about communism if you say Jesus was a communist because of that.

    The story goes back much, much further, though. Sociologists and anthropologists will tell you that all “primitive” peoples, without exception, practice a kind of informal communism. As documented by writers like David Graeber, they typically give to everyone what they need when they need it, and never require that the exact equivalent be repaid. Indeed, some react with outrage to the very suggestion: for them, cold-blooded accounting of debts and credits is for enemies. Friends share what they have, and inevitably those with more give more while those with less give what they can.

    Wolves share a pack and take care of each others. Are wolves communists ?
    Taking care of your kin, sharing / gifting things does not make you a communist. Even animals does that. It is NOT ‘informal communism’. It has nothing to do with communism.

    • Replies: @MEFOBILLS
    , @Showmethereal
  47. FB says: • Website
    @Tom Welsh

    The artificial, unnatural and harmful idea of “everyone for himself” only arose after the advent of big towns and cities, where rascals could successfully connive and cheat without immediately stinking in the nostrils of the entire community.

    Great Comment Tom…keep up the good work…there is much more to say on this important subject…

  48. MEFOBILLS says:
    @Nalca

    Taking care of your kin, sharing / gifting things does not make you a communist. Even animals does that. It is NOT ‘informal communism’. It has nothing to do with communism.

    I agree, and you make important points. What is the nature of the world? What is the logos? Too many dupes, predators, and confused people spread hypnosis at variance with reality.

    Communism is a pyramid system, whereby a small elite at the top of the pyramid control everything.

    In terms of economics, communism assumes incorrectly that all markets are inelastic, and ergo must be government controlled.

    Equally wrong and on the other side of the dialectic, is Lolbertarian and neo-liberal economics that says markets are perfectly elastic and must be free-dumb.

    The reality is in the middle. Money’s true nature is law, ergo it belongs in the legal sector, and has to be issued in accordance with the needs of commerce.

    Markets are of three types: Elastic, Inelastic and Mixed. Neither communism nor neo-liberalism recognizes mixed market types, and any ideology or thought construct that leaves items out of account, should be shunned.

    A proper form of economy is a mixed economy, where there is government involved in inelastic sectors. Some people call this socialism, which it is. When socialism morphs into communism (a top down pyramid scheme) that is another issue.

    A pure communist type of economy does not work, and is hypnosis issued by the tribe, so they can take rents and feel safe. Communism takes huge amount of duping and hypnosis to overcome that fact that it is a construct is against the logos, and is outside of natural law.

    A pure type of turbo capitalism economy (finance capitalism) also issues hypnosis, so the predators and oligarchs can take rents, so they can feel safe.

    A sovereign type of money with mixed economy is the only kind that modern history shows to work. Debt instruments will make claims that grow outside of nature with mathematical precision, and modern man does not deal with this reality. The communist Chinese government (really a form of fascism) has state banks, and can deal with the debt problem.

    Fascism is a word that the average sheeple person has been conditioned from birth to have an emotional reaction to.

    http://www.sovereignmoney.eu

    • Agree: utu
  49. Wally says:
    @Anonymous

    You’re still full of it.

    Trump on climate change report: ‘I don’t believe it’
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46351940
    ‘US President Donald Trump has cast doubt on a report by US government warning of devastating effects from climate change.’

    • Agree: BlackDragon
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  50. FB says: • Website
    @MEFOBILLS

    We are living in an age of mass deception, so most people are hypnotized and duped, and you see evidence of it here in the comment section.

    Absolutely correct…some people just cannot be reached…they are bey0nd help…

    Btw…Aristotle had some very profound thoughts about usury…which until recent history was defined as charging any interest at all…

    The most hated sort [of wealth getting] and with the greatest reason, is usury, which
    makes a gain out of money itself and not from the natural object of it.

    For money was intended to be used in exchange but not to increase at interest. And this term interest [the word tokos, which in Greek also means ‘breed’ or ‘offspring’]*, which means the birth of
    money from money is applied to the breeding of money because the offspring resembles the parent.

    Wherefore of all modes of getting wealth, this is the most unnatural.

    Now Aristotle also reflects on the difference between ‘natural’ ways of getting wealth, such as by means of the household…ie the productive work of farming, fishing or perhaps making necessary items like shoes or cloth…

    He next considers the retail trade or the merchant class if you will…where, unlike the household, there is no ‘limit’ on the amount of wealth or coin that is desired, or can be attained…unlike of course the household or artisan, which abides by natural limits…

    Thus, then, we have considered the art of wealth-getting which is unnecessary, and why men want it;

    …and also the necessary art of wealth-getting, which we have seen to be different from the other, and to be a natural part of the art of managing a household, concerned with the provision of food, not, however, like the former kind, unlimited, but having a limit.

    He discusses the impulse towards monopoly…which is a huge curse on our civilization…

    There was a man of Sicily, who, having money deposited with him, bought up all the iron from the iron mines; afterwards, when the merchants from their various markets came to buy, he was the only seller, and without much increasing the price he gained 200 per cent.

    Which when Dionysius heard, he told him that he might take away his money, but that he must not remain at Syracuse, for he thought that the man had discovered a way of making money which was injurious to his own interests.

    He made the same discovery as Thales; they both contrived to create a monopoly for themselves.

    And statesmen as well ought to know these things; for a state is often as much in want of money and of such devices for obtaining it as a household, or even more so; hence some public men devote themselves entirely to finance.

    His discussion on money lending at interest follows from there…

    An incredibly well thought out essay from more than 2,000 years ago…I simply have not read such a masterful and insightful study on the subject of money and human motivation for it, and the mistakes that arise from this, anywhere else…

    Politics…by Aristotle…

  51. slorter says:

    Good article! The world needs a shake up from the shackles of the West!

  52. onebornfree says: • Website
    @onebornfree

    And……:

    China Censors PewDiePie For Criticizing Communist Regime :

    Top YouTuber called out NBA and Blizzard for kowtowing to oppressive ChiComs .

    “Well boys, we did it. I’m banned from China,” PewDiePie said in a follow-up video released Saturday. “That’s right. After I spoke about the Hong Kong protests and showed their leader being mocked as looking like Winnie the Pooh, I got banned from China.”

    China’s censorship of Kjellberg comes just a week after the Communist country banned the comedy show South Park for its pointed criticism of the NBA’s appeasement of China’s censorship policies…..”:

    https://www.newswars.com/china-censors-pewdiepie-for-criticizing-communist-regime/

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Replies: @BlackDragon
  53. @Cyrano

    You wouldn’t know “capitalism” if it hit you in your huge proboscis. How do you folks always mix up capitalism with government? You’re smarter than that, I would think you could have figured it out by now. Capitalism isn’t bad, govt interference in capitalism is what is bad. Capitalism helped the whole world prosper, while governments bomb, kill and destroy. Capitalism helps people get out of poverty, and governments keep people in poverty. It isn’t capitalism that put Venezuela in poverty, it was socialism. Venezuela used to be a very rich nation; corrupt and full of crony capitalism involved in corrupt governments, but rich. Now they have socialism and poverty. The sanctions the US is applying only hurt the nation more.

    • Agree: onebornfree
    • Replies: @Cyrano
  54. tyrber says:

    In response to Tom Welsh’s comment #21 where Tom claims Jesus Christ was a Communist:

    The notion Jesus Christ and early Christians were “communists” is absurd and dishonest. Though they may have been communal and though Jesus Christ is portrayed as an advocate of the poor, the question is why, for what purpose?

    Has the purpose of Christianity ever been to liberate humanity from all forms of slavery and to construct an egalitarian society whereby the proceeds of labor are distributed according to the Marxist principle of “From each according to his abilities to each according to his needs”? No.

    Completely contrary to the teachings of Marx, Christianity calls for obedience to the slave masters in exchange for eternal life in the kingdom of heaven. Christians don’t care about what happens on earth. In fact they hope things become worse on earth because they think it’s a sign of the apocalypse.

    In reality, Communism and Christianity are total opposites. Russian oligarch propagandists like Andre Vltchek, who claim to be “non-Marxist Communists” are paid to create confusion among the masses, especially young people, over what Communism is. Calling Christians Communists serves as propaganda to convert the masses into Christians, ie, passive wage slaves who will always obey their masters no matter how austere conditions become. The Christian “communist” Vltchek is helping the Russian neoliberal oligarchs opiate the masses.

  55. Cyrano says:
    @therevolutionwas

    Let me tell you something about socialism, son. There are only 2 ways to achieve socialism.

    1. Socialist revolution
    2. IOH (Incredible outburst of humanism)

    Most socialist countries achieved their socialism through number 1. Only US had the bright idea to pretend that it has achieved it through IOH – which they call multiculturalism.

    If capitalism was so great, why does it feel that it needs to impersonate something that it’s not? And why, of all things does it feel that it needs to impersonate its nemesis – socialism?

    If capitalism is so great why it doesn’t try to impersonate itself? Donald Trump tried to insinuate that he’ll do that – MAGA – that’s what’s all about – return to some earlier more idyllic forms of capitalism – like working 16 hours a day, 7 days a week, no vacation and no retirement.

    Who doesn’t miss does early pre-socialism days? Capitalism will do anything to survive. It will even pretend that it’s about equality. All kinds of equality – racial, sexual, gender – all kinds, except the big one.

    That one they wouldn’t touch even with a 10 meter pole. And they can impersonate socialism all they want, but the only ones that they are fooling is themselves and the likes of you, who after decades of propaganda can’t even tell the difference between socialism and capitalist drag queen.

    • Agree: bluedog
  56. bluedog says:
    @Smith

    Perhaps but is capitalism any better,ask those in tent cities those without jobs and see what their reply is.!!!

  57. Anonymous[113] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wally

    You still don’t get it. What Trump presently says for political consumption, completely different than previously, and how he acts personally to protect his seaside property from global warming are two contradictory viewpoints. And South Carolina Republican Congressman Bob Inglis has called out Trump on such hypocrisy.

    • Replies: @BlackDragon
  58. China’s C919 passenger jet is a better airplane than Boeing’s 737 MAX mostly because this corporate failure remains grounded for murder – an irony for one of the world’s biggest defense contractors that isn’t lost on the rest of the world.

    Which begs the question, is propaganda higher quality in China too and should that replace the current media products managed by the CIA?

  59. @nsa

    Its very simple..In China, the Govt owns the banks..In America, the BANKS own the Govt.

  60. @Anonymous

    ‘Climate change’ (human variety) is a huge scam and a total scientific falsehood, the greatest science fraud in history, even bigger than 911. If you believe it you believe in tooth fairies.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  61. @onebornfree

    You fell for another lot of Western propaganda, without seeing exactly why they banned it. Anybody can complain about the Gov in China its in the constitution.
    As soon as a China article comes on here (UNZ), the China bashers are out in force. Of course there are supporters too..

  62. FoSquare says:
    @MEFOBILLS

    As I recall, I think it was Franklin who said that the Revolutionary War was more about the right of the colonies to create their own money (Usury free) than about taxation without representation. Thomas Robertson, in his great work Human Ecology, got the causal relationship right when he said, “Taxation follows in the shadow of Usury.”
    The Bankers, of course, stress Taxation in the schoolbooks to deflect attention away from the Money.

  63. Another perspective.

    CHINA’S GENERATION ZEN – THE BLACKEST PILL OF ALL

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/DGQIHPNq5cE/

  64. Vidi says:
    @anon

    China just screamed loudly while doing nothing, and then of course jumped to the U.S. side around 1971, working against the USSR.

    An extremely poor China, still recovering from her own civil war, fought the U.S. to a draw in the Korean War; that is not “doing nothing”.

  65. @MEFOBILLS

    And what happens to people who advocate effective eugenics nowadays?

    • Replies: @MEFOBILLS
  66. Anonymous[113] • Disclaimer says:
    @BlackDragon

    You’re parroting science-denial lies, but you’re welcome to explain what—other than warming—is rapidly melting Arctic sea ice and permafrost. I’m sure the Melnikov Permafrost Institute in Yakutsk, Siberia would appreciate your alternate explanation why the town has lost 1,000 buildings to whatever it is—other than warmth—that is melting the ice upon which the building pilings used to be steadied.

    • Replies: @BlackDragon
  67. Druid says:
    @Smith

    Mao was a filthy Psychopath! Read on him

  68. @sally

    “Capitalism is often blamed but I blame access to education and opportunity.. and that ain’t capitalism.”
    “Monopoly power, the power to deny others the right to compete, is the problem, not capitalistic wealth.”
    I can’t actually disagree with what you say, Sally, because what you point to are real problems.
    However, I would suggest that the problems you point to are inherent to Capitalism. Inherent, NOT inevitable.
    Politics, economics & military power are seamlessly intermixed.
    The more power capitalists acquire the greater their ability to influence the political process for their own benefit. So — we end up with (as you suggest) monopolies, & such like.
    Capitalists’are able (now) to manipulate the political process to the point where they actually WRITE the laws the Congress passes. Thus, the US is now an Oligarchy, not a republic let alone a democracy.
    I agree with your last paragraph. There HAS to be a balance between the free ability of individuals to create wealth & the power of the State to intervene so that wealth & power are used for the benefit of all. Some degree of socialism is mandatory. But so is some degree of individual initiative.
    Sounds easy…. but it’s the hardest thing in the world to even begin, let alone get right.
    I doubt we humans have the necessary….”stomach” to get “it right” before a tsunami of some kind does us down (& I refer to NOT just the environment ….).

  69. @anon

    China twice sided with Anglo-Americans agianst genuine anti-Western competitors like Imperial Japan and later the Soviets

    China’s conflict with Japan was a question of national liberation. The Soviet-Japanese Neutrality Treaty was signed in 1941 and up to then the Soviets aided the Chinese, as did the Americans, during the war against Japan:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Sino-Japanese_War

    The West would like there to be conflict rather than cooperation between China and Russia, or at least it gives this impression. Russia has a lot more in common with the West and would seem a natural partner, especially considering the commonality in race, but the problem is that the West, especially the USA, don’t recognise equal partnerships and want to have the controlling role in any such, obviously to the detriment of others. Also, considering the direction in which the West is now going it is best for Russia to have very little to do with it.

  70. MEFOBILLS says:
    @Redneck farmer

    And what happens to people who advocate effective eugenics nowadays?

    Don’t self censor!

    It means your mind is not free.

    If a human is an animal, which he is, then evolution is an Eugenics mechanism.

    To answer your question with a question.

    What happens to high civilization, if you have a human population incapable of bearing it?

    There is a reason why movies like “Idiocracy” became a cult classic. People know this to be true, but their minds don’t want to go there, because they have been programmed from birth to not have “bad think.”

  71. MEFOBILLS says:
    @FoSquare

    Taxation follows in the shadow of Usury.”
    The Bankers, of course, stress Taxation in the schoolbooks to deflect attention away from the Money.

    There is truth to that. If you have public debts to a private banking system, then taxes are levied to pay the interest on said public debt.

    Franklin’s bank was not usurious even though they charged interest. The income the bank received was spent outward on the commons. Spending on the commons is a key feature of the American System. For example, the original debates about the American System included public health, and infrastructure like water works to then drive water wheels.

    In these debates, they discussed how American’s were not Chinese, and not Coolie labor. That American’s could never compete against Coolies, and hence had to be in better health, with improved education, using the power of water, then later steam, then electricity.

    A form of money is debt free, and this money must be taxed out of the supply. So, some taxes are always necessary. Hitler’s economy from 1933 to 1938, the tax roles almost trippled, as new debt free money stimulated the economy into high levels of production, the building out of roads, homes from new families, new industry, etc.

    Also, fiscal policy and monetary policy are flip sides of the same thing. Money is a creature of the law, and taxation is a necessary thing, especially taxing away rents and unearned income.

    So, it depends: Money has to be lawful and issued in proper amounts and proper types, and taxation removes unearned income from sectors, and withdraws debt free.

    Don’t fall into a lolbertarian trap about all taxes being bad. If you drink too much water you will drown, and we don’t go around jumping up and down about water being bad.

  72. denk says:
    @anon

    *China just screamed loudly while doing nothing, and then of course jumped to the U.S. side around 1971, working against the USSR.*

    IN a previous thread, I already shot down this B.S., spewed by , if I recall correctly, the fake Vn, ‘Smith’

    Nixon went to court China AFTER the Moscow/Beijing split, there’s no issue of ‘betrayal’ by China as insinuated.

    *China twice sided with Anglo-Americans agianst genuine anti-Western competitors like Imperial Japan and later the Soviets*

    I asked ‘Smith’ twice, was he suggesting China invaded
    Japan in ww2
    , still waiting for the reply.

    These days we see many sock puppets assuming various identities, after their B.S. is called out, they used another moniker or anon to repeat exactly the same canard again,

    Bloody sickening.,

    • Agree: Commentator Mike
    • Replies: @BlackDragon
    , @denk
  73. joannf says:
    @Anonymous

    And like you, he believes that it’s all about human-generated CO2 ?

    I downloaded the lit you linked (but didn’t purchase it), it’s partially interesting but there;a another guy who’s completely biased and trying to prove a point (that early human societies were more or less ‘egalitarian’ as compared to strictly hierarchical societies doesn’t mean Egalitarianism is a good idea right now, or in most situations).
    I demonstrated empirically that by acting as unified moral communities, the main political actors in bands and tribes were able to deal decisively with individuals who threatened their autonomy. The arguments were social and political, as opposed to biological and evolutionary. In this book I develop the hypothesis further, by analyzing the egalitarian political behavior of humans in a full natural-history context. Ideologies are at the core of this analysis, for I believe that to definitively “equalize” a political society it is necessary for the rank and file to form a moral community, develop an egalitarian ethos, and deliberately take charge of their own fate. An important hypothesis, then, is that egalitarianism is the product of human intentionality. If tendencies to hierarchy are to remain decisively reversed, both hunter-gatherers and people living in modern democracies must consciously create, and carefully enforce, egalitarian plans or blueprints. We so-called moderns may formalize these blueprints via constitutions or bills of rights, while hunter-gatherers or tribesmen operate much more informally; but in either case my theory is that egalitarianism cannot last very long without insightful guidance and manipulation.

    Hmm. Ideologies are at the core of this analysis. Yo Monn, go for it if you think that makes a lot of sense. And of course modern Egalitarianism is a result of human intentionality. Well at least we don’t have ti discuss free will here, or so I hope.
    I’m talking about something else in my above comment. The problem with Egalitarianism in an evolutionary sense is simply that it’s by nature, static. This exactly is the entire sense of it, it avoids certain typical sources of conflict which is good and bad.

    A hunter-gatherer society (which ours definitely isn’t) would obviously profit from team work by equals (this exactly is one of the few exceptions where MEASURED egalitarianism makes sense), but terribly suffer from equality of the retarded (cleverly, hunter-and-gatherers somehow avoided such disabilities by high natural rates of disappearance), or if the weak insisted on taking part in activities only the strong can successfully take part in… this sort of thing is only possible in a pastime society like ours momentarily happens to be… but won’t be for long if not enforced, so my guess is stasis is exactly what the powers that be have in mind.

    This is not necessarily bad – it would just stop our upward evolution [the way we define it] as well – then again that has likely already stopped, probably decades ago. It’s quite possible that without biotechnological intervention, which is risky and messy and , yikes ! unethical, not much sensible further development can be achieved, in effect the powers that be seem to think more in transhumanist than gentechnological terms when the discuss such a developments at all, which they avoid, and transhumanism is of course a rather obvious, rather ironic hoax to soothe the people.
    All of this is very interesting, because it completely fits in with my own observations. If an evolving mankind is grossly inconvenient, it’s probably best to let it degrade – and supremely ethical, inshallah.

  74. @Anonymous

    ‘who publicly admits the Arctic sea ice is in a death spiral. ‘
    NO crap, go and learn some real geophysics. I guess you believe in the new age ‘climate’ religion.
    Only an idiot would do that.

  75. @denk

    denk these people are nuts and just China basher trolls with no knowledge of anything, all they can do is visit site after site of internet rubbish all disinformation, we can guess WHO pushes it!

    • Replies: @denk
  76. @Anonymous

    You have no idea what you are talking about. Im trained in geophysics. There is NO climate change due to humans.

    • Replies: @Lin
  77. @anon

    I think the reason Western elites hype up China and downplay Russia is because deep down inside they know Russia is infinitely stronger, both spiritually and materially than China ever will be.

    They hype up China because China is a 5,000 year civilization; China has both socialism and Confucianism; China has a huge population with high IQ and excellent work-ethic; China has had the fastest economic development in human history since 40 years ago; China has the world’s largest economy and manufacturing sector and are still developing rapidly; China is also the world’s largest trading nation; the world’s largest ship builder; by far the world’s largest auto market; and is becoming the world’s largest retail market; having the most expressways in the world; having more high speed rails than the rest of the world combined… I can go on and on. And don’t forget, China has the belt and road initiative.

    China will always fold to strength like cowards, despite their propaganda, its not in their nature to fully devote themselves to struggle, they just want to trade and suck cock of those above them.

    This is simply not the case after the CCP victory in 1949 and the Korea War. Before that, the Chinese culture and civilization were resilient enough to assimilate their Mongol and Manchu conquerors. The Chinese civilization remains Chinese after these two periods.

    • Replies: @Bliss
  78. Just btw, Paul Kersey is a liar who censors you so’s you can’t call him what he is and prove it beyond the shadow of a doubt.

  79. Lin says:
    @BlackDragon

    Im trained in geophysics

    So am I.
    I only took one course in atmospheric mechanics.
    Weather is stochastic and it’s difficult to judge how much warming is caused by humans

  80. @barry lyndon

    Fact: Marx invented Communism. The author’s claim he is a Communist but not a Marxist is absurd. Vltchek is a typical utopian left opportunist. He is employed by RT, which is controlled by Russian oligarchs.

    Whatever else this allegation may be it is not a “FACT”. Even the word was in use long before Marx. Ideas of a communist (egalitarian) society go back at least 2000 years and probably much further than that. My guess would be that such ideas co-evolved with class society. It seems predictable.

  81. @Really No Shit

    a system that is largely dependent on west,

    Would you care to elaborate on this statement? Dependent on the West for what?

  82. denk says:
    @BlackDragon

    Can you imagine….
    more than 60% of yanks believe China is the greatest threat to their damned national security !!!

    Dunno whether to laugh or cry ,
    these murikkanos retards .

    heheheh

  83. denk says:
    @denk

    CommentatorMike

    Here’s another example….

    zogborg and ‘mousie dung’ are two id of the same Indian troll. !

    http://www.unz.com/article/should-we-compete-with-china-can-we/#comment-3504232

  84. @MEFOBILLS

    GIANT INSIGHT:

    Cotton Mather probably learned it from someone unknown. They needed to make cannon and other iron works, and had plenty of iron ore: they had craftsmen from England, but no money.

    They then issued local bills of credit, and forced merchants to take the bills as if they were money. In other words, the colony bypassed the usurious gold system, and put everybody to work.

    COUNT ON THIS BEING TRUE BECAUSE IT FITS IN TIME AND MAKES SENSE FROM EVERY DIRECTION:

    Tsar Nicholas II was intent on copying the American system from Lincoln via Carey, and was going to break up the big Russian land holders, and bring in American rail stock. This may be yet another reason that Boslheviks (Jewish agents of wall street/london corporate finance) attacked Russia.

    WHAT THIS CURRENT REALITY MEANS…

    America suffers from amnesia and has lost her past. She got duped by the (((banksters))) and now is having her past erased by population replacement.

    …IS THAT WE NEED WHITEY BACK IN CONTROL UNFETTERED BY JEW TREACHERY AND UNDER-SOPHISTICATED WARDS.

  85. Bliss says:
    @last straw

    China is a 5,000 year civilization

    The earliest non-mythical Chinese dynasty (Shang) goes back to 1600 B.C. By contrast the earliest Egyptian Dynasty goes back to 3100 B.C. which makes it 1500 years older.

  86. @FoSquare

    As I recall, I think it was Franklin who said that the Revolutionary War was more about the right of the colonies to create their own money (Usury free) than about taxation without representation. Thomas Robertson, in his great work Human Ecology, got the causal relationship right when he said, “Taxation follows in the shadow of Usury.”

    The Bankers, of course, stress Taxation in the schoolbooks to deflect attention away from the Money.

    Two profound insights in so concentrated a comment.

    The deception in the historical narrative shocks but upon learning doesn’t surprise, knowing Jews, while the idea that usury precipitates taxation motivates for redoing the American Revolution then singing the truth about it this next time.

  87. @nsa

    (((They’ve))) been operating in Hong Kong since the 19th century, and have built empires there.

    The (((Sassoon))) family made is fortune from the opium trade, the (((Kadoorie))) family made its billions in Hong Kong from energy and hospitality, and more recently (((Allan Zeman))) has made a fortune bringing Western decadence to the city.

    Hong Kong people are fond of calling mainland Chinese locusts, but there’s a far more lethal species hiding in plain sight.

  88. @Nalca

    Jesus was apolitical. His view is they are all systems of men and have their faults. Thats why he said it was fine to pay taxes to Caeser since the money was Roman. But yes – he would be against ultra capitalism but could never be a polticial Communist since they are atheists.

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