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Ian Henshall of Reinvestigate911.org, author of 9/11: The New Evidence, unwittingly found himself with a front row seat at the coronavirus-panic media carnival:

“By a stroke of chance my next door neighbour is the guy who accidentally infected people here in the UK with the corona virus. This has meant that there are lots of newshounds from the MSM hanging around in the street outside with an agenda to create panic.

“They were talking about ‘panic in Brighton.’ But the only panic was coming from the Daily Mail correspondent. (See screenshots below. -KB) I thought the important thing was to puncture this. And so I went out and was quite aggressive with them. I said ‘it’s all just hype, it isn’t worse than any other type of flu.’…there was someone from the media outside at all times for about two days. I got used to cameras. And I got a bit irritated at one point. I said ‘this is rubbish, this story.’ And there was camera going, but I didn’t expect (the clip) to be used. Because as we know from the 9/11 truth movement, they’re very careful about what they use. I’m so used to being censored that it didn’t occur to me there was a serious chance that this would actually be used. So I said in quite strong terms that it was all just hysteria, there was nothing to worry about. And there it was on the BBC national news that evening, repeated on the 10 o’clock news later on in the evening. And then the Brighton radio the next day, they were using it all day, just a little sound bite.

“There are basically two schools on this, at least here in England. I think it sort of links up with the role of China, and how the same people who want to create panic over the virus, I suspect, are the people who want us to boycott China’s industry, and not use the Huawei mobile phone deal. And apparently the American media have been really hysterical about this. The NY Times headlines…are basically trying to make political capital out of it and bash China, even though the World Health Organization has nothing but praise for China. They did everything right.”

Could the media-driven coronavirus panic be an “anti-China 9/11”? Recall that on the eve of 9/11 the Islamic Awakening was flourishing, and political Islam, with its commitment to liberate Palestine, was on the rise. The 9/11 false flag stopped the Islamic Awakening in its tracks, as it had been designed to do, by swamping Islam and Muslims with bad PR. That is precisely what coronavirus hysteria is doing to China.

Was coronavirus made in a lab, in the same way 9/11 was orchestrated by the Anglo-Zionist empire, to smear one of the world’s great cultures? Is this yet another “clash of civilizations” dirty trick?

(Republished from Truth Jihad by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Complete obvious hoax. Where is the hard evidence of a SINGLE death anywhere from this so-called virus?

    • Replies: @thetruth
    , @Ragno
  2. Here is an interesting look at how the State Department is trying to frighten Americans about Huawei:

    https://viableopposition.blogspot.com/2020/02/huawei-5g-and-department-of-state-pot.html

    Washington’s primary concern with Huawei in specific and China in general is that China’s leadership will use the implementation of 5G to steal sensitive personal information. This begs the question; what is it that Five Eyes (the intelligence alliance of Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom and the United States) are doing with the massive volume of human intelligence, military intelligence and signals intelligence that they are collecting on all of us every day?

    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
  3. FOLLOW-UP on CORONA VIRUS wherein I stated in my first comment about the Coronavirus that “I believed it is/was an ATTACK on China, and probably by the U.S.” (useful idiots taking the heat for Psychopaths in ISRAEL) and VITAMN C is the natural CURE, as it is with ALL VIRUSES: http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v16n11.shtml
    Is the MANUFACTURED and PROBABLY weaponized VIRUS, the provocateurs and PROPAGANDISTS call “CORONA VIRUS” lookinhg for a “QUIET , hopefully unnoticed exit ? https://www.moonofalabama.org/?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=a42128800821d464d28a0a404a6378a7914656ac-1581692768-0-AbjzcXpjF0dc53n_bxsxvcw4mxiuyZ6PotC3OcuwEbm-8KAb0-vEW2lO-1Ex7xA7SIDukHColoeVq8mvaofq66sJyH36-xLcFezvzyknU2VSJ-PdIf6_zTsaIc0d-_ime-g8GBD-Z_LO6vQFEc2LCcCIuH6ds2lZa_NrcFMeO1wCSqBztazN3Cbjbtf7QPCiwHhrcAwzygKUHC8IDUEo23O23BrJzA0K6apjuSS_26IsdGh5MH9UtDQJnjPBRttT1SAzGJ6FzdWbOM-CZ-CW-ZA A “Most Convenient Virus : http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/52988.htm and an “Examination of FACTS” https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/02/no_author/chinas-new-coronavirus-an-examination-of-the-facts/ and MOST IMPORTANT, from UNZ Review: https://www.unz.com/article/was-the-2020-wuhan-coronavirus-an-engineered-biological-attack-on-china-by-america-for-geopolitical-advantage/
    I now further state there will be DEVASTATING RETALIATION(S), by China, at a time of their choosing, so “buckle up” Americans,and probably Canadians”- “What GOES around COMES around”and you all deserve what will come, even the average “Joe public” which TOLERATES such and other psychopathy from and by their Governments. “ ………….. For WHOM, the BELL TOLLS, it TOLLS, for THEE”
    Will Vitamin C and D3, even in massive doses, work with the next BIOWEAPON???
    AND, as usual ZIONIST JEWS will claim INNOCENCE and will claim their PRIZE – The World, or so they believe ! China ( and Africans) has/have existed much longer, and survived much worse, than most countries and races, on this planet……. especially much more than Jews and American Zionists/Freemasons. You are ALL about to find out that EXPERIENCE counts for everything which White RACISTS and BIGOTS, don’t have.

    A few “eliminations” of those at the highest level of White power, such as but not limited to House of Rothschild, House of Windsor and Vatican, ( ALL WHITE, by the Way, if you didn’t notice !) by their own BIOWEAPONS, might “cure” any future “Outbreaks of Wars of ANY kind” and SAVE Humanity 🙂

  4. @Sally Snyder

    This begs the question; what is it that Five Eyes (the intelligence alliance of Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom and the United States) are doing with the massive volume of human intelligence, military intelligence and signals intelligence that they are collecting on all of us every day?

    Outside of the US retard-bubble, the whole “Huawei 5G is a NatSec threat” narrative is up Shitter’s Ditch.

    It died on Feb 11, when it was revealed that Crypto AG was a CIA front for almost its entire existence – which means that cipher equipment used by pretty much all Western governments was fundamentally insecure. (If there’s a backdoor in a secure device to enable the US to listen, then others will find it. The US has never been especially good at espionage).

    My phyle has frequent mid-level contact with people in the .gov.au and .gov.nz security space: .gov[.x] tech and intelligence people are mostly talentless fuckwits, but they are of one mind when it comes to the CryptoAG story – it has changed the institutional mindset as to whether the US ought to be treated as a hostile.

    CryptoAG might actually be the last straw – which means that from now on the US will not be able to treat shared info as reliable (it’s already understood that information received from the US is often false).

    5Eyes was always just an end-around by which governments spy on their domestic populations when those governments claim to have put in place laws preventing exactly that. It is “intelligence sharing” in pretty much only that respect – although all non-US participants know that the Yanks get everything.

    This is just about 5G being an important telecom-infrastructure build – as important as 3G – and the US wants a US company to pocket most of the dough if possible so that its political scum can skim off the top.

    If 5G was roads or dams at the same scale, and Huawei was a structural engineering firm, the US would be trying to run the same line.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  5. El Dato says:

    Was coronavirus made in a lab

    No.

    You don’t make such things “in the lab” and they magically work (i.e. hurt people but not too much and not too little) without having a bunch of dead Chinamen in large concentration camps back out in Rockys that you need to dig under and without the engineering work jumping out at the specialists on the first RNA sequencing run. Underneath all of this is the rejection of the completely mundane fact that new viruses appear from time to time, then fade away again.

    All this “muh secret USAMRIID lab” rumor-mongering is retarded beyond belief. Pure shittery.

    Next question.

    • Agree: 22pp22
  6. Realist says:

    Ian Henshall on BBC: Coronavirus Scare Stories Are “Rubbish”

    Exactly right.

    “There are basically two schools on this, at least here in England. I think it sort of links up with the role of China, and how the same people who want to create panic over the virus, I suspect, are the people who want us to boycott China’s industry, and not use the Huawei mobile phone deal. And apparently the American media have been really hysterical about this. The NY Times headlines…are basically trying to make political capital out of it and bash China, even though the World Health Organization has nothing but praise for China. They did everything right.”

    No suspect about…you can bet on it.

    One of the sad things about this is Tucker Carlson’s rabid response to the coronavirus. He just can’t stop bad mouthing China about the virus and everything else about China. He has had the discredited China hater Gordon Chang on almost every night. Awhile back Carlson was very critical of the establishment…now he has vastly toned down his criticism. I am sure Fox News has put the thumb on him.

    His program is’t worth much anymore…he use to be a breath of fresh air in the land of bullshit.

    • Replies: @Thomasina
    , @Ragno
  7. @12 min. Corbyn was a milquetoast. So is it possible that he’s compromised by the zionists? Epsteined by the Mossad? I have this feeling that he’s been too meek and malleable.

    • Replies: @Kevin Barrett
    , @Walkhumbly
  8. @Rev. Spooner

    Corbyn is just a meek and humble type of guy. That, and his great personal integrity, is the source of his appeal. But he doesn’t seem to burn with “prophetic rage” against injustice, at least not hot enough to fight fire with fire.

    The meek may inherit the earth some day, but it won’t happen through an election—at least not in a system dominated by well-funded narcissists and psychopaths.

    • Agree: BDS Always
  9. @Rev. Spooner

    Can’t make it to Corbyn’s position if you are any real threat to the power structure.

    Kevin is a very good-hearted person who tends to the mistake that there is any heart among these political thieves.

  10. Anonymous[139] • Disclaimer says:
    @Kratoklastes

    Most conservative British people are fanatically pro-USA, the history of US conduct in these matters and technical facts don’t interest them, siding with the USA is just what you do as far as they’re concerned.

    • Replies: @Herald
  11. It’s a hoax until the exits to your dwelling are blocked.

    • Replies: @Walkhumbly
  12. @GazaPlanet

    You are nothing but a fear pornographer.

  13. While your premise may turn out to be correct, it is belied by an internal Chinese report that came my way from the CDC and WHO which has now been erased from the internet.

    The report was specific to a Chinese clinical trial that started Feb.11 regarding the efficacy of vitamin C on the onset of coronavirus.

    Forty-one infected patients were removed from the population for the study. Of this number, 77% eventually required artificial ventilation to breathe and 37% eventually died. All within 96 hours.

    This may be the only currently quantifiable report on mortality. Although this is obviously not a broad enough control group to fully reveal mortality, it certainly refutes this article’s premise that the virus and its death toll are a fabrication.

    It is easy for an article such as this to ask you to close your eyes to the proper examination of his potential threat. Hopefully, the study referenced will open those eyes back up a bit.

    • Replies: @thetruth
    , @Philip Owen
  14. thetruth says:
    @Walkhumbly

    “hard evidence of a SINGLE death” of white people? NONE.

    Evidence of MULTIPLE deaths of Chinese in China? YES, over 2000! and plenty were gone before got confirmed! so the actual deaths in China due to Covid-19 should be higher.

    Although there are two deaths in Iran claimed. But Arabs are not Anglo-Saxons

    • Replies: @Walkhumbly
  15. thetruth says:
    @Brett Redmayne-Titley

    that so called “Chinese clinical trial” on Vitamin C is complete FAKE! NOT true!

    No, Chinese gov. will NEVER allow that kind of study!!

    By the way, almost ALL patients in China now are using traditional Chinese medicine, i.e. herbal cocktail, as well as other forms of herbal treatments. One of the treatment is using the receipt from the Famous Chinese medical doctor Zhang Zhongjing of Han Dynasty (200 AD), the result is Excellent!

    • Replies: @Brett Redmayne-Titley
  16. Herald says:
    @Anonymous

    Most conservative British people are fanatically pro-USA, the history of US conduct in these matters and technical facts don’t interest them, siding with the USA is just what you do as far as they’re concerned.

    And that basic lack of judgement is just another reason why British Conservatives can never be trusted.

  17. Thomasina says:
    @Realist

    Tucker Carlson still does a better job than any of the other talking heads. He has stated that if anybody is a threat to the American people, it is China, not Russia. He is contradicting the “Russia, Russia, Russia” narrative espoused by CNN and the rest of the liars.

    He has pointed out numerous times that it was the U.S. corporations who offshored the jobs to China, and he explains why they did it – greed. Cheap labor and no environmental controls.

    He would be more accurate if he lumped the two together (U.S. multinationals and China), then explained that the elite from both countries colluded to bring about China’s growing success and America’s growing decline.

    The elite from both countries have become filthy rich off this collusion. Without the U.S. multinationals and U.S. technology and know-how, China would still be back in the Stone Age.

    Tucker Carlson is still critical of the establishment, and I applaud him for at least informing the American people of what is truly going on.

    You obviously don’t like hearing his honesty.

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @d dan
  18. Realist says:
    @Thomasina

    Tucker Carlson still does a better job than any of the other talking heads.

    Agreed…but faint praise that.

    He has stated that if anybody is a threat to the American people, it is China, not Russia.

    He is trading one bogeyman for another.

    Without the U.S. multinationals and U.S. technology and know-how, China would still be back in the Stone Age.

    Ridiculous.

    Tucker Carlson is still critical of the establishment, and I applaud him for at least informing the American people of what is truly going on.

    Not near as much as in the past.

    You obviously don’t like hearing his honesty.

    You obviously hear things he doesn’t say

  19. @thetruth

    You speak as if you have read the study. I verified the report with both CDC and WHO via my resources at UCSD medical school.

    As I stated this is NOT a clinical trial by definition but an example of one small group. Larger groups would include the cruise ships under quarantine, which also don’t meet the criteria for a clinical trial, but are indeed a working example.

    Vitamin C is one of the holistic/traditional approaches that has been used throughout modern history. It also has established efficacy ( by US military clinical trials) on Ebola and SARS and MERS in the onset stages.

    With there being no established cure for SARI, of course clinical trials of vitamin C efficacy are underway.

    • Replies: @Kevin Barrett
  20. d dan says:
    @Thomasina

    “Without the U.S. multinationals and U.S. technology and know-how, China would still be back in the Stone Age.”

    When coming to the topic of China, the political left, right, center, up, down, in, out,… are all equally hostile and all equally ignorant. Tucker Carlson is further illustration of this, and the above statement is another demonstration of the hubris plaguing the nation. Take a look of the foreign direct investment data to China[1]. How important is US investment to China?

    Hong Kong 72.1%
    Singapore 3.6%
    Virgin Islands 3.0%
    South Korea 2.8%
    Japan 2.4%
    USA 2.0%
    Cayman Islands 1.6%
    Netherlands 1.6%
    Taiwan 1.3%
    Germany 1.1%

    https://santandertrade.com/en/portal/establish-overseas/china/foreign-investment

    • Agree: Realist
    • Replies: @Thomasina
  21. We have had a spate of weather and disease hysteria, so when a real wolf comes along everyone is tired of the boy who cried wolf.

    It is the actions I am watching and they are unprecedented. Historic. So excuse me for taking note and making preparations for quarantining ourselves for six months or so.

    Easy for us in rural Alaska. We can handle the mail with gloves, burn the envelopes with a mask on a couple weeks after post marked.

    Why are they freaking out. Their wild spinning about with draconian policies is alarming. First, shooting people if they break a quarantine… then ordering them all back to work?

    I don’t drink alcohol. But this is enough to start.

    • Replies: @Thomasina
  22. Thomasina says:
    @Realist

    Faint praise, my eye. You obviously don’t watch him, at least not on a consistent basis. Some of his rants lately (and, no, they’re not every day – he’s not running for political office) have been spectacular, veritable beat downs against the elites running the country.

    “He’s trading one bogeyman for another.” Russia is not a bogeyman and, no, they didn’t steal the election (Russiagate was a hoax), nor are they planning to invade Europe.

    China, on the other hand, is a bogeyman, at least with regard to the American “people”. They have benefited from all of the American jobs that were offshored (millions of them), and the Chinese elite and the American elite have been in bed together, getting filthy rich in the process. They have both colluded in making China what it is today.

    That’s why the establishment is so against Trump. He wants jobs to return (and the Coronavirus is pointing out why they should). You can’t have the bulk of your manufacturing done in a backwards country thousands of miles away. Look at those supply lines crumbling now! 2/3rds of Chinese provinces are ring-fenced.

    You say it’s “ridiculous” that China would still be in the Stone Age without American technology and know-how? I’ve got some Florida swampland to sell you. There are literally thousands of U.S. companies operating out of China. 60% of all goods exported out of China and destined for the U.S. market are made in China by U.S. corporations. It would have taken China a century, had she done it all on her own, to get up to speed with technology, if they ever could have done it.

    U.S. multinational corporations sold their own country out! No getting around that.

    Tucker Carlson is doing a fine job of informing the American people of what’s going on. I’m sure he’ll continue to get better and better. Thank goodness somebody is doing it. The other bought-and-paid-for media are doing everything they can to keep the American people uninformed.

    But nature has a way of slapping you, doesn’t it? She’s got a way about her…

    • Replies: @d dan
    , @Realist
  23. Thomasina says:
    @Backwoods Bob

    This is all about keeping industry running. First have a quarantine to try to abate the spread of the disease so that all those U.S.-owned companies in China can quickly get back to cranking out products.

    But the wheels of industry can only stop for so long. Supply lines are breaking down; multinational corporations can’t get parts. They start screaming. What to do? Why, break the quarantine! After all, these are only lowly peasants. The wheels of industry must keep running!

    The Chinese elite, beholden and in bed with the U.S. multinationals, are obviously not going to be among those going back to work. No, they’ve all fled to the West, infecting other countries, but they figure that western hospitals are probably a safer bet, should they need one.

    If this were a common flu, China would not have taken these measures. It is now spreading to other countries: Singapore, Italy, Iran, Japan. So far it looks like only people of Asian descent are being affected, and predominantly the aged who are dying from it, but time will tell.

    Today I heard that there’s some evidence that people are being re-infected (maybe they never really got better?), and they are worried about this. Apparently your immune system can completely go haywire if this occurs. I believe this is what happened with the Spanish flu that killed so many.

    To those who say this is completely overblown, I hope you’re right.

  24. d dan says:
    @Thomasina

    “You say it’s “ridiculous” that China would still be in the Stone Age without American technology and know-how? I’ve got some Florida swampland to sell you.”

    They detonated hydrogen (thermonuclear) bomb in 1967, even beating France by 1 year, and doing it without the help of Soviet nor US. Look pretty stone age?

  25. Thomasina says:
    @d dan

    That chart is from 2017. How much foreign direct investment flowed into China from the U.S. for decades before 2017?

    And the Virgin Islands is ahead of the U.S.? And Cayman Islands is right behind the U.S.?

    Besides, many, many corporations have shell corporations all over the world (for tax purposes).

    No, the U.S. elites (with help from politicians) sold out the American people. They should have said, “Fine, you want to move to a cheaper location and take the jobs? Okay, but we will tax you upon bringing the goods back in at a rate that makes up for the cheaper labor costs.” With an even playing field, the jobs never would have gone to China.

    • Replies: @d dan
  26. Thomasina says:
    @Realist

    Here’s Tucker Carlson’s latest (February 21, 2020) rant entitled “Ruling Class Incompetence”. Oh, it’s good, and funny too. You ought to have a listen.

    The elites are not going to like this at all.

  27. Doubters should read the Global Times if they think it’s just US fake news. If they think it’s a joint US/China disinformation campaign, I don’t know what they should do. [email protected]

    • Replies: @Walkhumbly
  28. Realist says:
    @Thomasina

    Faint praise, my eye. You obviously don’t watch him, at least not on a consistent basis. Some of his rants lately (and, no, they’re not every day – he’s not running for political office) have been spectacular, veritable beat downs against the elites running the country.

    How do beat downs change anything??? Pissing and moaning changes nothing.

    • Replies: @Thomasina
  29. Parfois1 says:
    @Realist

    I couldn’t stop having a thunderous laugh reading your demolition job on that gullible soul Thomasina! Like an operatic duet with a faux-comic finale. Some mothers do ‘ave ’em…

    • Thanks: Realist
  30. @thetruth

    2000!?

    EVEN if I grant you that – which I won’t because you provide no evidence for your claim – 2000 is such a miniscule proportuon of all Chinese I fail to see the justification for the insecant fear mongering.

    How many young men are languishing in US prisons, their lives being destroyed, at this moment? Are you warning young American men how dangerous the police are to them?

    You are a fear pornographer.

  31. @Donald A Thomson

    You never know what to do, apparently, unless some media outlet tells you to do it.

    You are a mind-controlled fear pornographer.

  32. Thomasina says:
    @Realist

    “How do beat downs change anything??? Pissing and moaning changes nothing.”

    Au contraire, mon ami.

    What do Tucker’s beat downs do? They inform (and in your case they obviously touch a nerve). You can’t do anything until you are informed. Tucker Carlson is pointing out who the real enemy is – the elite on both sides of the aisle – and what they have done and are doing to ruin the country.

    Carlson goes where no other MSM outlet dares to go. The bought-and-paid-for MSM try to tell the people that the problem is Russia, they’re into political correctness and identity politics, Juicy Smoulier, but the people aren’t buying it.

    Tucker is shouting “fire” in a crowded theatre when there actually is a fire, and he’s pointing out exactly where the fire is and who caused it. Nobody else is doing that.

    400,000 people have watched Tucker’s beat down from last night on Youtube. You should watch it. It’s fantastic.

  33. d dan says:
    @Thomasina

    “That chart is from 2017. How much foreign direct investment flowed into China from the U.S. for decades before 2017?”

    I have seen chart for the total accumulative figures (e.g. up to 2018), they are similar too. I have no inclination to dig out those data. You are free to research it yourself if you doubt it.

    “And the Virgin Islands is ahead of the U.S.? And Cayman Islands is right behind the U.S.?

    Besides, many, many corporations have shell corporations all over the world (for tax purposes).”

    Sure, add all those to US column, and you still see a single digit figure. You can even double that, and all evidence still contradicts you original statement:

    “Without the U.S. multinationals and U.S. technology and know-how, China would still be back in the Stone Age.”

    • Replies: @Thomasina
  34. Thomasina says:
    @d dan

    Oh, you silly little globalist, you! What about Hong Kong? Did you think you could leave that favorable tax jurisdiction out of the equation? How much Western money is funneled through a Hong Kong corporation?

    Cayman Islands (home of 60,000 people and 10,000 hedge funds), Virgin Islands, Panama, Ireland, Luxembourg, Belgium – great places to funnel money through.

    China was “made” with U.S. technology and U.S. know-how, lots of Chinese elites profiting handsomely from the U.S./Chinese forced partnerships, and the sweat of the Chinese peasants.

    • Replies: @d dan
  35. d dan says:
    @Thomasina

    “Oh, you silly little globalist, you! What about Hong Kong? Did you think you could leave that favorable tax jurisdiction out of the equation? How much Western money is funneled through a Hong Kong corporation?”

    Sure, there are western money funneled through Hong Kong too. It is hard to assessed the true amount. But a lot of Hong Kong money are actually China’s money, as explained in [1]:

    “Chinese firms illegally transfer money to Hongkong and then invest it in the mainland in order to benefit from the preferential treatment offered to foreign investment. “

    Another major source of Hong Kong money is from overseas Chinese, including Taiwan, which has political restrictions for investing in China until recently (still):

    “Hongkong FDI in China includes flows from third countries which pass through Hongkong. This is the case of investment by Taiwanese firms which are not allowed by their government to invest directly in China and often set firms in Hongkong to carry out business with China. “

    [1] http://cepii.fr/PDF_PUB/wp/2000/wp2000-11.pdf

    • Replies: @Thomasina
  36. Thomasina says:
    @d dan

    I don’t really think we should be talking about “current” China. I was referring to the Western money, technology transfer and know-how/expertise that was handed to China on a silver platter beginning some 30+ years ago and continuing on until the present day.

    All the West did was move their manufacturing to China to take advantage of the cheap labor, then brought the goods back by boat. The Western and Chinese elite have made out like bandits.

    The Western elite have sold out the American people for short-term gain; China has been the beneficiary. But don’t sit there and tell me that China did it all on their own, because they didn’t. In order to own something, claim it as your own, you need to have first earned it.

    • Replies: @d dan
  37. @Brett Redmayne-Titley

    Hi Brett, can you provide supporting evidence for your claim about this vitamin C study? Feel free to email me a cut-and-pasted copy of the study. I’m DrKevinBarrett(a)yahoo[dot]com.

  38. anon[175] • Disclaimer says:

    The chinese are locusts who must be stopped from shitting up 1st world countries.
    If CCP mainland is so awesome why are you subhuman insects invading European countries?
    It’s because chinks and their culture are shit, and they have to leech off actual human Europeans.
    You know why we humans cant tell chinks apart?
    It’s because you all look the same – pan faced midget small dicked,
    slant eyed black haired dirty ants.
    And that’s the nicer description of you bugs. 🙂

    • Troll: utu
  39. Ragno says:
    @Walkhumbly

    Three (Caucasian European) deaths in Italy so far. Sorry but you’re wrong; I wish you weren’t.

    • Replies: @Walkhumbly
  40. Ragno says:
    @Realist

    He’s still (the only) MSM newsman very critical of the establishment. Here he is on Friday Feb 21st, which is three days ago at this writing, and he doesn’t seem to be “toning it down” from under anyone’s thumb.

    • Replies: @Realist
  41. Realist says:
    @Ragno

    He’s still (the only) MSM newsman very critical of the establishment.

    He doesn’t do it as often or as much as he use to.

    • Replies: @Thomasina
  42. d dan says:
    @Thomasina

    “I don’t really think we should be talking about “current” China. I was referring to the Western money, technology transfer and know-how/expertise that was handed to China on a silver platter beginning some 30+ years ago and continuing on until the present day.”

    Neither am I just talking about “current” China. As I replied to you in one of my previous post, I have seen figures for total cumulative investment (for the last few decades) in China, and they are similar to the 2017 figures. Overall, US investment is dwarfed by Japan, Korean, Singapore. EU countries like Germany, UK are close behind US.

    I grant you that US and western countries did contribute to China’s progress, but it is clearly an exaggeration to state that they would be in stone age without western investment. I also mentioned in another post to you, they detonated hydrogen bomb in 1967. Today, more than half a century later there are only 5 nations that can do that (not even India). They also made nuclear submarine, launched satellite, manufactured computers, etc, in the 1960s and 1970s, long before any US investment. How backward do you think they were? At the very least, I would say that they were in the first tier country (or at least close to first tier) technologically and scientifically before opening up to US and the West.

    Further, you and most Americans over estimate the effects of manufacture offshoring for China. Face it, most CEO’s are not dumb. They keep their most advanced IP and technologies away from China. They know China is a potential competitor. For example, Intel invests in China, but they keep the most advanced factory in US. Their Chinese factory is at least 1 or 2 generation behind US. The same for Apple: they manufacture Iphone in China, but keep the most advanced Mac factory in Texas and R&D in California. Same for Boeing, HP, Google,… They bring technologies to China only when they know China already, or is close to achieve at those technological level.

    Finally, please give credits where it is due. China has been investing a lot in R&D. Their R&D budget is already the 2nd highest in the world (and still increasing quickly). Even that understates their effort because the salary and cost of engineers is lower for them. Their colleges pay attention to STEM education instead of social studies. They focus and work hard while US quarrel and fight for political gain. Their best minds go to research lab while the best minds in US go to Wall Street. They invest in equipment, classrooms and infrastructure while US spends on foreign wars. Any wonder they catch up in more and more areas?

    • Replies: @Thomasina
  43. Thomasina says:
    @Realist

    “He doesn’t do it as often or as much as he use to.”

    No, he does it more, and his latest rant has been seen by 850,000 people on Youtube alone.

    Tucker’s comments are more pointed and focused now, and he hones in on the culprits – the ruling class elite – Democrats AND Republicans.

    Russiagate, Ukrainegate, the impeachment, left/right wars, gender wars, race wars, LGBQRSTUV everything – all of this has been a diversion.

    The elite don’t want anybody noticing them, their collusion and corruption.

    People are seeing that corporations run the country, and the politicians who are in bed with them (both sides of the aisle) are responsible for the destruction of the country.

    Both Democrats AND Republicans are responsible for the offshoring of jobs and the financial engineering of the economy by the Federal Reserve and Wall Street.

    The country is run by short-term greed, and you can’t build a country on that.

  44. Thomasina says:
    @d dan

    Look, I’m not going to keep arguing with you. The initial push to move manufacturing to China came from the West. They wanted to use the cheap labor. The Chinese elite approved, and so it was done. The elite have gotten filthy rich from this.

    China has printed a ton of money, sent millions of Chinese students to Western schools and universities. Yes, of course Chinese go into the STEM fields, but they’re also heavily into Finance. That’s why you rarely see a Chinese school teacher or social worker; they go where the money is. Not a laudable attribute. But it’s the same with the Jews and the Sikhs.

    The U.S. elites purposely keep their people fighting. That way they don’t turn around and notice them and how they have caused the destruction of their own country.

    China has worked hard, yes, but so have other countries. The difference is the other countries never got technology and American know-how handed to them on a silver platter. Any wonder they catch up?

    • Replies: @d dan
  45. @Ragno

    Three! Yikes, shut down the entire so-called globe!

    You are doing Satan’s bidding bearing false witness to deaths.

    • Replies: @Ragno
  46. d dan says:
    @Thomasina

    “They wanted to use the cheap labor.”

    Really? I wonder why didn’t US CEOs go to Africa. They were and are still much cheaper than China.

    “The difference is the other countries never got technology and American know-how handed to them on a silver platter. “

    I already proved to you that US only contributed a small part of foreign investment in China. China was already quite advanced technologically in the 1960s. And US CEO’s are not as dumb as you think, that they do keep their best IP and technologies at home. I also argued that China invested heavily in STEM research and education. All these contradict your claim that “technology and American know-how (were) handed to them (China) on a silver platter.”

    There is not a single rebuttal or refutation of my points from you. I guess if you insist on burying your head in the sand, there is nothing else I can do.

    • Replies: @Thomasina
  47. Thomasina says:
    @d dan

    “I wonder why didn’t US CEOs go to Africa.” Same reason others don’t go to Africa.

    China was and is a communist country. Their people conform and generally obey rules (one-child policy, social credit system). Let’s see, where would I rather go, given that both areas don’t expect much in the way of wages? Which country’s elite will have my back if the people get uppity? Which country can control their people, keep them in line? Which country won’t waste precious Sundays in church? Which country can I pollute to my heart’s content? Um, I think I’ll choose China.

    The U.S. does go to Africa, and so does China – for their resources.

    China might invest heavily in STEM research and education now, but that wasn’t the case when the U.S. first went in there. China got handed U.S. technology and know-how on a silver platter.

    • Disagree: d dan
  48. Ragno says:
    @Walkhumbly

    I had presumed you were posting a serious comment; my mistake.

    (A quick glance at your other comments sadly confirms your asshat status. Wish I’d ‘researched’ your prior cretinism before wasting my time addressing any of it.)

    • Replies: @Walkhumbly
  49. @Ragno

    It is true that I am not a wholly owned subsidiary of the oligarchy like you are.

  50. anon[332] • Disclaimer says:

    The best part of this corona virus outbreak is that Westerners will now treat chinese as the filth ridden disease beasts they are.
    They have their own country, it’s called ‘china’. They need to leave my country and go the fuck back to their bat-eating polluted shithole ants-nest, where they can eat tiger dicks and torture dogs and cats to their hearts delight. 🙂

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