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Dr. Gary Kohls, a retired family physician from Duluth, MN, has researched the effects of vaccines and believes that Americans are wildly over-vaccinated…and suffering an epidemic of autism and auto-immune diseases linked to overvaccination.

Is big pharma making big profits by harming children? Is a vaccine-security complex emerging to force toxic vaccines on the population? Is the media’s pro-vaccine propaganda comparable to its propaganda for war and neoliberal oligarchy? Is the mainstream’s line on vaccines as big a lie as its line on 9/11? Was 9/11 comparable to an auto-immune disease?

These are some of the questions considered in this interview.

Dr. Kohls writes in the Duluth Reader: “Aluminum adjuvants (in vaccines) can also easily OVER-stimulate the vaccine victim’s immune system – thus creating the supposedly ‘perplexing’ reality of America’s national epidemic of autoimmune disorders that is occurring now among fully-vaccinated children and young adults.”

Dr. Kohls notes that:

“The United States Centers for Disease Control & Prevention (CDC) receives about 30,000 reports of adverse vaccine reactions each year. That huge number is believed to actually represent perhaps only 1% of the actual annual vaccine-injuries. Therefore, there may actually be as many as 3 million adverse events from vaccines each year in the US.”

To get on Dr. Kohls email list write him at ggkohls(at)mydutytowarn[dot]org

(Republished from Truth Jihad by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Ben Rush says:

    There is no research that shows vaccines have a significant impact in a modern country. Much more important is access to clean water, nutritious food, and good housing stock. In fact, in developed countries infant mortality declines with lower recommended vaccination loads.

    Vaccines are loaded with metals and other known toxins with EPA MSDS sheets (e.g. https://www.rdcaa.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/MSDS-Aluminum.pdf ). There is absolutely no research showing how safe it is to inject these substances into full grown adults yet alone newborn infants.

    But pharma loves their vaccines because they are a product that they don’t have to wait for a diagnosis to sell, and they don’t have to worry about liability: the taxpayer handles that for them, unlike their other products.

    • Agree: Liza
    • Replies: @dc.sunsets
  2. Liza says:

    Even people who avoid vaccinating because of fears of serious reactions (caused by adjuvants) don’t get it. As long as you believe (almost like a religion) that “germs” cause disease, the mfrs of vaccines and their toadies in govt will be one step ahead of you. Here’s reality: your weakness (disease) causes the “germs” to show up.

    Look what we have come to: an entire society gibbering in fear that their precious little darling might somehow make contact with these invisible little things floating about. This is no more intelligent than thinking everything is magically caused by angry spirits.

    But they have an answer for everything: if your child is not vaccinated because he has had a heart transplant or some other indicator of extreme fragility right from Day One and gets the illness, it’s not only because he was not vaccinated, it’s because someone else’s unvaccinated child spewed some evil humor on him (what we call germs today, I guess).

    So, what’s the solution: enforced, 100% rate of vaccination.

    Clever dogs!

    • Replies: @Tusk
    , @Curmudgeon
  3. Tusk says:
    @Liza

    Yes for instance there is no “aids virus”, but instead your weakness (homosexuality) causes the “germs” to appear wtihin you and afflict you with the condition.

    • Replies: @Liza
    , @Ben Rush
  4. Liza says:
    @Tusk

    No one is “afflicted” with any infectious condition or weakness. The germ appears because of underlying pathology. It may be self induced or the organism may just have been born a really weak specimen (for any one of a variety of reasons). As to socalled AIDS, if you can find a copy, try reading “Aids, Inc.” by Jon Rappoport and then tell me that people with AIDS really are innocent victims. The universe is not a wicked place that drops evil on our heads for no reason. Dig deep enough and you will find out why things happen. Modern medicine doesn’t look any farther than attributing everything to “germs” or “genes”. SMH.

    Those poor germs, blamed for everything in this backward form of medicine we are stuck with, are there to fix the problem. Stop giving the “germ” (bacteria/virus) a reason to exist, and it will leave, or never show up in the first place. Just whacking it over the head with antibiotics or antivirals and then thinking you are OK is a way of thinking that needs to be reconsidered.

    Thanks for replying to my comment. In this day and age, it is becoming harder and harder to be healthy.

    • Replies: @dc.sunsets
  5. Dutch Boy says:

    Autism is a disease triggered by over-vaccination and the resulting change in mitochondria in the affected cells (aluminum being a significant trigger):
    http://naviauxlab.ucsd.edu/science-item/autism-research/

    • Agree: Liza
  6. Ben Rush says:
    @Tusk

    The reactions to HIV infection vary. Some manage to live with HIV with no illness expressed at all. Others develop full blown AIDS. We do know that there is a correlation between worse HIV expressions and lifestyle. Gay men who engage in the most promiscuous lifestyles, which typically involves drug abuse tended to have worse HIV expressions.

    • Replies: @dc.sunsets
  7. Clyde says:

    Also space out vaccinations for children. These four in one shots can overwhelm the youngster. During his campaign Trump commented on this, at least once that I saw.

  8. @Ben Rush

    The legal structure of a public corporation yields a vicious parasite: a creature staffed by human beings but harboring an utterly alien, misanthropic set of incentives that place profit maximization above all human values.

    “Big Pharma” is simply a creature of the legal fiction of limited liability, which strips the humanity (and honor) from otherwise organizations of humans.

    This legal fiction is self-replicating and self-defensive; in a time when money buys legislators, regulators and judges with impunity, the USA now has the Best Government Money Can Buy.

    The problem is, the last hands through which your money passes are those that call the tune, and from Insurance to Banking to “All Things Medical,” cartels of corporate “persons” now own the US government top to bottom.

    The only good news is that they’re rapidly converging on the end-state of all monopolies, where they become black holes for resources and anything of value ceases to emerge.

    That event horizon promises to be One Massive Reset Button.

    • Agree: Kevin Barrett
    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  9. @Liza

    Sorry, Liza, but while I concur with much of your comment, I think you vastly oversimplify the question (and answer.)

    Yes, we coexist in an ecological garden of microorganisms in, on and around our bodies.

    No, not all of them are benign, and sometimes they run afoul of us for no particular reason. People have died of pneumonia due to (what is otherwise often a constituent of normal naso-pharyngeal flora) Streptococcus pneumonia since the dawn of time.

    Get a deep puncture wound and tell me how “underlying pathology” causes tetanus. Is it a consequence of clumsiness?

    The condition of “good health” could be defined as an organism whose normal microbial flora (an essential for life itself, not just to “keep the balance”) remains where it’s beneficial or benign. But it is a normal part of life that this is not always so.

    E. coli in your colon is almost certainly good. E. coli in your blood is catastrophically bad. E. coli in your urethra is probably very unpleasant, and if it works its way up to your kidney, you’re in deep trouble.

    By the way, I concur with your criticism of the HIV/AIDS thing. That “paradigm” is proof positive that cognitive dissonance is alive and well within the microbiology/Infectious-Diseases community. I guess it’s somehow off limits to point out that practicing receptive anal intercourse destroys at least as many days-of-life as cigarette smoking ever did.

    But then, some microbiologists are still honest enough to note that packing urethras with fecal matter in a colon is about as stupid as injecting the contents of a cesspit into ones veins.

    I think the OP is right. Some vaccines may be very good. Too many vaccines is almost certainly bad. And the current incentive structure is horrific, insuring that harms emanating from the naked pursuit of profit will be spread far and wide.

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
    , @Liza
    , @SBaker
  10. @Ben Rush

    HIV/AIDS completely fails the central premise of infectious disease, Koch’s Postulates.

    Like “cold fusion” some years back, it’s “discovery” was announced at a press conference, not via the usual channels of study publication and scientific criticism.

    Unlike “cold fusion,” HIV/AIDS didn’t have an immediately testable outcome. “Oh, some people go on to get (one of the underlying diseases that form the syndrome called) AIDS, others don’t.” What a convenient way to make falsifying the theory impossible.

    Also unlike “cold fusion,” critics of the HIV/AIDS paradigm were systematically hounded from labs and science departments, much the same way critics of the latest tranny-insanity are subjected to Orwell’s “Two Minutes Hate.”

    Anyone who wasn’t born yesterday recalls that after Gallo’s announcement there was a deluge of press releases detailing how it was a National Emergency, that AIDS was destined to sweep the heterosexual community, and that African AIDS would depopulate the entire African Continent in a few short years. This was about 30 years ago….

    We were treated to terrified headlines, “Heterosexual AIDS cases triple in two years!!!” [Never mentioning that the raw numbers were 1 and 3, while 99.99% of AIDS cases remained among (1) men who had sex with men and (2) people who injected foreign proteins into their veins (hemophiliacs and IV drug abusers.)]

    The whole HIV/AIDS thing was a classic Psychological Contagion, where a small but vocal minority (homosexual men) demanded that “society” fix the consequences of their incredibly stupid, self-destructive impulses, and so a huge amount of money had to be wasted on chasing a non-existent “cure” for a “disease” that is anything but.

    I don’t know which is more hilarious, gay men insisting that their actions are somehow “okay” or men who think they’re going to be singing, “Man, I Feel Like A Woman” after some hack surgeon lops off their penis, inverts it and attempts to jam it up into a “space” in their pelvic region.

    Darwin sure offers a lot of ways now for people to self-nominate for an award.

    The diseases that constitute the syndrome called AIDS are downstream consequences of putting ones immune system against a wall and pummeling it chronically (via receptive anal intercourse, drug use/abuse, injecting foreign proteins, etc.) It was VERY telling when the CDC quietly removed Kaposi’s Sarcoma from the AIDS diseases list (because too few of KS patients could light up on the Western Blot “HIV” test.) Data fitting is a screaming signal of junk science.

  11. We do know that there is a correlation between worse HIV expressions and lifestyle.

    Now THAT’S funny! A “correlation?”

    That’s like saying that there’s a correlation between diagnosed mental illness and belief that you’re a man in a woman’s body or vice-versa.

    That’s like saying there’s a correlation between clinical depression and calling oneself “transgendered.”

    I’m sure anyone on this thread is familiar with Peter Duesberg’s hypothesis regarding AIDS, and how being on “the wrong side of a religious crusade” is never a good idea.

    Never try to open the deluded’s eyes to his delusion. This is especially true when the delusion is so fashionable that it attains the status of a shibboleth for the wider society.

  12. @dc.sunsets

    The legal structure of a public corporation yields a vicious parasite: a creature staffed by human beings but harboring an utterly alien, misanthropic set of incentives that place profit maximization above all human values.

    Ooooh! I like that. I’ve long loathed the legal entities that we know as corporations because they are protected by government and socialize risk while privatizing (often obscene and ill-gained) profits, but I like your view of it too. Well put.

  13. @dc.sunsets

    But then, some microbiologists are still honest enough to note that packing urethras with fecal matter in a colon is about as stupid as injecting the contents of a cesspit into ones veins.

    Agree. Aesthetics aside, which would be enough for a sane person to say “enough,” or don’ t even think about it, WTF do people think they’re doing when they engage in that sort of thing? There havta be more than a few loose screws at play.

    • Replies: @dc.sunsets
  14. I know of Gary Kohls through an excellent article, The 70th Anniversary of the Bombing of Nagasaki, Unwelcome Truths for Church and State,
    he wrote about the nukings of Japan and I would tend to trust the man.

    Anyway, people ought ot be aware of the foreign material that could be injected with the vaccines, I think.

    Here’re some examples, make your own conclusions.:

    M-M-R II is a sterile lyophilized preparation of (1) … (2) … (3) MERUVAX® II (Rubella Virus Vaccine Live), the Wistar RA 27/3 strain of live attenuated rubella virus propagated in WI-38 human diploid lung fibroblasts.{1,2} The growth medium for measles and mumps is Medium 199 (a buffered salt solution containing vitamins and amino acids and supplemented with fetal bovine serum) containing SPGA (sucrose, phosphate, glutamate, and recombinant human albumin) as stabilizer and neomycin.

    … The cells, virus pools, and fetal bovine serum are all screened for the absence of adventitious agents.

    Source: Vaccine package insert.https://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/m/mmr_ii/mmr_ii_pi.pdf

    This one really amazes me.:

    … The cells, virus pools, and fetal bovine serum are all screened for the absence of adventitious agents.

    Yeah, right. Given the human tendency to cut corners and otherwise do half-assed work, who believes that load of crap? And injecting (no doubt) traces of neomycin willy-nilly into large populations? Really?

  15. @Liza

    Almost 30 years ago, I heard a radio lecture on the Human Genome Project. The speaker’s hypothesis was that contrary to what was the stated purpose, it was all about Big Pharma.

    Part of the lecture was about vaccinations, and how Big Pharma had portrayed their role in reducing disease. He noted that he was born in the mid 1930s, and that he knew no one who had died from measles of suffered any of the other horrific damage measles had caused a century earlier. Not only that, none of the people he knew, knew anyone who had died from measles of suffered any of the other horrific damage measles had caused a century earlier. He went on to note that the measles rates from his childhood had declined up to the time the measles vaccine was introduced, and post vaccine rates, while lower, had not been lowered to zero.

    His main points were:
    1) humans had, by the time of his childhood, become naturally more immune to measles and its effects; and
    2) as the rates were already declining by the time measles vaccination was introduced, it was reasonable to conclude they would have continued to decline in the 30 years since vaccines were introduced; and
    3) Big Pharma’s claim of 99% elimination is a gross overstatement, as it is impossible to know what the real effectiveness of the vaccine was.

    He went on to say that while the scourge of polio was more recent, studies had shown that the vaccine had actually caused as many cases as it prevented.

    As a 70 year old who had measles, mumps, chicken pox, and pneumonia in childhood, I too know no one who suffered the dreaded effects of these diseases. I do however know of several people affected by polio, all but two older than me, and left with minor effects. The younger ones both were left with a weakened and foreshortened leg. Since that lecture, I have paid more attention to vaccinations, and am convinced their efficacy is grossly overstated.

    • Replies: @Liza
  16. Liza says:
    @dc.sunsets

    Thanks for all your comments. Re tetanus, I would demand high dose of (probably intravenous) Vitamin C.

    Jungeblut CW. Inactivation of tetanus toxin by crystalline vitamin C (l-ascorbic acid). J Immunol 1937;33:203-214.

    There are probably thousands of substances that could poison us if they are placed directly into the blood, not just tetanus toxin. What should we do – wait for the geniuses at the CDC to develop a vaccine for each one of them? We need to work toward overall good health + harmless treatments for everything that might strike us.

    I read a long article about the dangers of tetanus vaccination.

  17. Are vaccines that profitable for Big Pharma? On C-SPAN, I have heard scholars lament the lack of new vaccine research and insufficient quantities of common vaccines, like the flu vaccine, since Big Pharma does not find that as profitable as manufacturing Viagra.

    Of course, those scholars could just be writing publish-or-perish papers that align with whatever is chemically vogue on campuses and PR-friendly on the MSM. Colleges are becoming more commercial all of the time, just like our press.

    And they wonder why people doubt the motives for their research.

    There seem to be more kids with autism or maybe just more kids diagnosed with autism who, in previous decades, would have been seen as shy or just unsocial. This is a period of time when individuals are constantly put under a microscope. They can’t just be individuals with peculiar personality traits; every quirk must be clinical.

    You think it has anything to do with mass underemployment of US citizens and the “cartel-pricing industries,” where some of the only household-supporting jobs are located, undergirded by lots of government money?

    You think it has anything to do with the mass entrance of women in the labor force? Females in the top 20% of dual-earner households—with high expectations for a certain standard of living—occupy many of the jobs in the children’s medical industry.

    During the past few decades, quite a few diagnostic disciplines have grown into enterprises that supply a lot of household-supporting jobs, funded with money from .gov aiming to “serve children.”

    All of the money given to parents of afflicted children doesn’t offer up direct medical care. Some of it is given to parents to spend as they please, but justified by .gov due to a child’s diagnosis, just like the refundable child tax credits up to $6,431 are justified by any, little childcare expense, including a small check to a childcare-providing grandmother who gives it back to her daughter.

    Like monthly cash assistance, single parents are free to spend those refundable child tax credits on anything they want, and many spend the money on luxuries, like beach trips with boyfriends, since their rent, groceries and other major bills are covered by taxpayers.

    In cases of diagnoses much less severe than autism, like say ADHD, parents often get SSI checks sufficient to cover the note on a small house. This happens quite frequently, in fact. After the kid turns 18, those parents have to figure out a way to pay their mortgage with no help from Uncle Sam, and they openly discuss it. We live in interesting times.

  18. @Jacques Sheete

    I suspect we share an astonishment at the 24/7 effort to “normalize” anal sex among heterosexual people.

    I lack the time to characterize just how (again) jaw-dropping astonished I remain at the pop culture references to an act that is (1) microbiologically idiotic, (2) epidemiologically insane and (3) physiologically crippling.

  19. Liza says:
    @Curmudgeon

    Thank you for your interesting comments. Who was that speaker you refer to?

    Two things:

    #1. The worse your vitamin A deficiency, the worse your measles is going to be. Even the WHO said so.

    #2. Dr. Fred Klenner treated infectious diseases including polio with large doses of Vitamin C.

    http://www.doctoryourself.com/klennerbio.html

    “Severe measles is more likely among poorly nourished young children, especially those with insufficient vitamin A, or whose immune systems have been weakened by HIV/AIDS or other diseases.”

    • Replies: @Adam Smith
  20. Liza says:

    There seem to be more kids with autism or maybe just more kids diagnosed with autism who, in previous decades, would have been seen as shy or just unsocial. This is a period of time when individuals are constantly put under a microscope. They can’t just be individuals with peculiar personality traits; every quirk must be clinical.

    Right you are.

    There’s real, true autism (which wasn’t seen a long time ago). Today, anyone with an eccentricity or slight oddness is now called “Asperger’s”. Any peculiarity, any quirky personality trait, must be given a name and inserted in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders and then “treated” one way or another. If it’s not outright, frank autism, then it’s a “mild autism”: they get you one way or another.

  21. The exponential rise in autism is a result of under reporting of the condition until the 80’s-90’s, an over reporting currently, and delayed childbirth. Old sperm and eggs are far more likely to make the autistic omlette than others, certain types of planners and achievers are more likely to carry that bad juju with their dna in the first place, and assortative mating would be a factor as well.

    • Replies: @Liza
    , @SBaker
  22. Anonymous[206] • Disclaimer says:

    I’m just glad that the US is sooo much healthier and safer now. Everyone knows that the population was on the brink of extinction from infectious diseases back in… 1962.

    Right?

    • Replies: @Liza
    , @dc.sunsets
  23. Liza says:
    @james wilson

    I would guess that the rise in autism is not caused by one thing. Old sperm & eggs are probably a big factor but by themselves maybe not. But combine the old reproductive cells with the stresses of vaccination + the generally toxic atmosphere we have to live in, and someone with certain tendencies is going to be pushed over the edge. For some, these extreme stresses produce neurological issues ; others will get cancer at a young age, or diabetes or fill in the blank.

  24. Roger says:

    I’m looking forward to the day when the CDC proclaims 100% vaccination rates for measles in the US and then has to come up with a plausible explanation for rampant, widespread measles outbreaks among supposedly immune populations. What will be the proffered reason? Who will be to blame? Who will pay the price?

    • Agree: Liza
  25. Liza says:
    @Anonymous

    Where did you get that chart?

  26. @Anonymous

    Much of that (excellent) chart is vaccination for influenza.

    Given the abysmal history of that vaccine’s efficacy, anyone who gets it is drinking bad koolaid.

    That, and the propaganda used to sell it (35,000 deaths due to influenza years) is a blatant lie; the number of deaths cited year to year varies, but it’s always the same as the CDC’s MMR report for deaths due to pneumonia, which is overwhelmingly caused by bacteria, not viruses, and is far from always being secondary to a confirmed case of Flu A. The MMR synopsis reveals the truth, that very few (and almost exclusively the very young and very old, neither of whom get much if any benefit from vaccination under the best of conditions) people die of confirmed cases of influenza.

    When they have to resort to lies, you know they’re selling snake oil.

  27. “This outbreak demonstrates that transmission of measles can occur within a school population with a documented immunization level of 100%.”

    Measles Outbreak among Vaccinated High School Students — Illinois
    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00000359.htm

    Measles outbreak in a fully immunized secondary-school population.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3821823

    Measles outbreak in a vaccinated school population: epidemiology, chains of transmission and the role of vaccine failures.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1646939/

    There is also the case of “Measles Mary”, a fully vaccinated 22-year-old theater employee in New York City who developed the measles in 2011. “Measles Mary” transmitted the measles to four other people, according to a report in Clinical Infectious Diseases that tracked symptoms in the 88 people with whom “Measles Mary” interacted while she was sick. Surprisingly, two of the secondary patients had been fully vaccinated. Although the other two had no record of receiving the vaccine, they both showed signs of previous measles exposure that should have conferred immunity.

    The resurgence of whooping cough is due to vaccinated people who are infectious but asymptomatic.

    The evidence is overwhelming. Vaccinated people spread disease.

    Recently vaccinated people should be quarantined for a minimum of 6 weeks. However, sometimes people spread disease for years after a vaccination.

    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/phenomena/2015/09/02/polio-28-years/

  28. @Liza

    High Dose Vitamin C

    In 1970, Klenner discovered that the sicker a patient was, the more ascorbic acid he would tolerate by mouth before diarrhea was produced. At least 80% of adult patients will tolerate 10 to 15 grams of ascorbic acid fine crystals in 1/2 cup water divided into 4 doses per 24 hours without having diarrhea. The astonishing finding was that all patients, tolerant of ascorbic acid, can take greater amounts of the substance orally without having diarrhea when ill or under stress. This increased tolerance is somewhat proportional to the toxicity of the disease being treated. Tolerance is increased some by stress (e.g., anxiety, exercise, heat, cold, etc.)

    USUAL BOWEL TOLERANCE DOSES

    [MORE]

    GRAMS SODIUM ASCORBATE NUMBER OF DOSES
    CONDITION PER 24 HOURS PER 24 HOURS
    normal 4 – 15 4 – 6
    mild cold 30 – 60 6 – 10
    severe cold 60 – 100+ 8 – 15
    epstein barr 30 – 100 8 – 50
    influenza 100 – 150 8 – 20
    ECHO, coxsackievirus 100 – 150 8 – 20
    mononucleosis 150 – 200+ 12 – 25
    viral pneumonia 100 – 200+ 12 – 25
    ebola (4 days) 180 – 200+ 12 – 25
    hay fever, asthma 15 – 50 4 – 8
    environmental and
    food allergy 0.5 – 50 4 – 8
    burn, injury, surgery 25 – 150+ 6 – 20
    anxiety, exercise and
    other mild stresses 15 – 25 4 – 6
    cancer 15 – 100 4 – 15
    ankylosing spondylitis 15 – 100 4 – 15
    Reiter’s syndrome 15 – 60 4 – 10
    acute anterior uveitis 30 – 100 4 – 15
    rheumatoid arthritis 15 – 100 4 – 15
    bacterial infections 30 – 200+ 10 – 25
    infectious hepatitis 30 – 100 6 – 15
    candidiasis 15 – 200+ 6 – 25

    Klenner’s experience with giving massive doses of ascorbic acid orally to over 30,000 patients and with giving intravenous sodium ascorbate to over 2,000 patients would indicate that with Ebola and other viral hemorrhagic fever diseases that intravenous sodium ascorbate should be used in doses beginning with at least 180 grams per 24 hours. If the fever is not controlled or the symptoms are not reduced, the dosage and the rate of administration should be increased until they are controlled.

    A Working Summation of Dr. Klenner’s Formula:
    350 mg Vitamin C per kg body weight per day (350 mg./kg./day)

    • Replies: @Adam Smith
  29. @Adam Smith

    I’m not sure how the spacing got all goofed up, but…

    What the chart is trying to say…

    condition – grams sodium ascorbate per day – number of doses per day

    for example

    viral pneumonia 100 – 200+ 12 – 25

    This means if you have viral pneumonia you would take between 100-200+ grams of sodium ascorbate per day divided into 12-25 doses. Dosage is based on body weight and tolerance to high dose vitamin c. Generally, if you start to get diarrhea, you have reached vitamin c bowel tolerance. Remember to drink plenty of water with sodium ascorbate. If you have hypertension, sodium ascorbate might not be for you. If sodium ascorbate is not for you, you may have more luck with ascorbic acid. As with any medicine, start with smaller doses until you know how you react.

    For a pdf that is easier to read follow the link below.
    http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=05470337773140447405

    Also interesting is this protocol for high dose vitamin c administered intravenously.
    https://riordanclinic.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Riordan_IVC_Protocol.pdf

  30. Liza says:

    Thanks for publishing that chart. I hope that everyone will read further on Dr Klenner’s experience with treating various illnesses & conditions.

    Now, about this statement:

    If you have hypertension, sodium ascorbate might not be for you

    I was surprised to see this. I thought it was sodium chloride (salt) that was an issue for those with high blood pressure. Not all sodium is the same.

  31. SBaker says:
    @dc.sunsets

    Finally, a reasonable assessment of the science of vaccine use and infectious disease. Several of these opinions expressed here on vaccines and infectious diseases are consistent with those expressed in many 3rd world countries. Education is the key to understanding science and the opinions of charlatans on the internet is a poor source of information on said. It is really pathetic to see how easily it is to influence so many people, even those that have no issues with using modern electronics to communicate.

    • Replies: @Liza
  32. SBaker says:
    @james wilson

    Thanks for making some excellent science-based statements on autism. Parents who have autistic children rarely admit to the genetic components of this condition. It is always something or someone else’s fault.

  33. Liza says:
    @SBaker

    It is really pathetic to see how easily it is to influence so many people, even those that have no issues with using modern electronics to communicate.

    So, is this a correct interpretation of your above statement: either a person agrees with every utterance emanating from a medical/scientific group, but if they refuse to do so, should stop using a computer.

    Or, is it a case of – if you are smart enough to be able to use a computer (as in internet) then you really ought to have the brains to be able to recognize scientific/medical “wisdom”. Might the recipients of our respect include the geniuses who gave a Nobel prize to the doctor who came up with lobotomy as a cure for mental illness?

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