The Unz Review • An Alternative Media Selection$
A Collection of Interesting, Important, and Controversial Perspectives Largely Excluded from the American Mainstream Media
 Full ArchivesKevin Barrett Podcasts
Donald Hank (Vince Dhimmos): Why I Left Christian Zionism
Email This Page to Someone

 Remember My Information


Bookmark Toggle AllToCAdd to LibraryRemove from Library • B
Show CommentNext New CommentNext New ReplyRead More
ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
These buttons register your public Agreement, Disagreement, Thanks, LOL, or Troll with the selected comment. They are ONLY available to recent, frequent commenters who have saved their Name+Email using the 'Remember My Information' checkbox, and may also ONLY be used three times during any eight hour period.
Ignore Commenter Follow Commenter
Search Text Case Sensitive  Exact Words  Include Comments
List of Bookmarks

Donald Hank speaks eight languages and blogs as “Vince Dhimmos” at New Silk Strategies and elsewhere. Born into American Christian Zionism, Don’s intelligent curiosity led him to investigate and ultimately reject parochial worldviews in favor of the broader outlook featured in his posts on international relations.

“My dad…became convinced that Jesus was coming any moment. In fact, he told us as kids ‘now that Israel is a nation again’— as of 1948, and this was in the 50s, so this had just happened—’you kids (there were me and two sisters) will never grow up.’ Well, some people might say I never did grow up! But that’s beside the point…(My father) thought that in five or six years at the most Jesus was coming back. He based that on the prophecy in Ezekiel 37 that Israel would become a nation. And so when we grew up anyway, in spite of his prophecy, we began to question this: ‘There’s something wrong, people have been deceived.’ And I believe it was the Scofield Bible that deceived them.”

Today, Donald Hank recognizes that Zionism is on the side of Antichrist rather than Christ. He writes: “As for their belief that modern Israel is the Israel prophesied in Ezekiel 37, there is a major hitch in that chapter. Verse 24 says this Israel resurrected from the dry bones will be ‘obedient to God’s decrees.’ So what’s the hitch? A Gallup poll shows that 65% of Israelis have no religion at all! (Israel among the least religious countries in the world). Thus it is clearly not Ezekiel’s reborn Israel!”

The interview starts with Christian Zionism and touches on COVID (Don is locked down 22 hours a day in Panama), language and translation issues, and the respective doctrines of Christianity, Islam, and Judaism and their political ramifications.

(Republished from Truth Jihad by permission of author or representative)
• Category: Ideology • Tags: Christianity 
Hide 48 CommentsLeave a Comment
Commenters to FollowEndorsed Only
Trim Comments?
  1. kikz says:

    deism… for the rational mind. set yourself free of the psychopathic yahweh. 😀

    • Replies: @Kevin Barrett
  2. anon[312] • Disclaimer says:

    Time to expose and leave Opus Dei ,another disinter organization through which the Vatican will make inroads to American military defense foreign policy courts and cabinet .

  3. The existence of the state of Israel in our time doesn’t fulfill some spooky “bible prophecy.” Instead it shows the ordinary reality that people can get ideas from books, and then use these ideas as guides to make real things. This happens all the time with gadgets and technologies inspired by science fiction, yet no one claims that science fiction has a supernatural ability to show us the future.

    After all, does “bible prophecy” also predict that Israel would have electricity, airports, radio and television, supermarkets or socialized health care? Or can we attribute those amenities to human agency?

  4. Israel poses another interesting problem for Christians, in that it shows that a godless population can maintain a healthy fertility rate, a high morale and a sense of meaning of purpose, despite the Christian propaganda that atheism leads to “nihilism.” Perhaps secular Israelis have advanced further along towards a successful atheist transition than people in other developed nations.

  5. @advancedatheist

    If “a healthy sense of meaning and purpose” means pride in being the global epicenter of organized crime and world’s worst genocide perpetrator, and being loathed by virtually everyone in your region and the majority of the world’s population, I suppose you are right.

    • Replies: @Anonymouse
  6. @kikz

    Deism is an epiphenomenon of waning Christian culture’s transition into extreme unidirectional linear time (see Eliade’s The Myth of Eternal Return for details) and the rise of a mechanistic conception of the universe.

    Modern physics and ancient scripture agree that unidirectional linear time is an illusion. So the deist doctrine of God as a cosmic watchmaker who made a watch long ago and set it ticking by itself, never to intervene again, is a parochial 18th century notion that flies in the face of the experience of all mystics and wisdom teachers. In fact, the entire universe(s) is/are being completely (re)created at every moment, and time flows just as easily and naturally backwards as forwards. Consciousness is outside of linear time but diminishes into it as a kind of imprisoning illusion. “The life of this world is nothing but a play and an idle pastime” (Quran) i.e. a diversion (Pascal). To understand or “taste” this you need to experience what is there before the wave function collapses. The best way to prepare for such a devastating experience is to practice a time-tested religion and mystical path.

  7. Consciousness is outside of linear time but diminishes into it as a kind of imprisoning illusion.

    Bingo. Illusions like seeing a coiled rope as a coiled snake.

    And this brings us, finally, to the essential point of these metaphysical considerations: the fact that perception takes place in a nunc stans, and thus “above time,” entails that perceiving is not, strictly speaking, a psychosomatic act: the faculty by which we perceive proves not to be psychosomatic, but spiritual, and that spiritual faculty is what tradition terms intellect.

    –Wolfgang Smith, Science and Myth, 2010

  8. anon[712] • Disclaimer says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    The only way to achieve enlightenment my son is to spend most of your life doing LSD, Mescaline and mushrooms, then and only then will you find the way.

    • LOL: Kevin Barrett
    • Replies: @SeekerofthePresence
  9. @Kevin Barrett

    Such physical/metaphysical speculations = Deepak Chopra redux?

    If you want to “taste” eternity, receive the body and blood of Christ in Holy Communion. There is no “wave function,” but only the will and mercy of God.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  10. Following my conversion upon apprehending the good news of God’s saving grace as evidenced by the Person and work of His Son, Jesus I became involved with a local church which was steeped in the premillenial dispensational theology which dominated American Christianity thanks to writers like Hal Lindsey, Dave Hunt, and other “Christian Zionists.” I had a Scofield study bible like most everyone else. I also started courting a young lady who had been raised in the Grant-Booth meeting. They were one of the many splinter groups of believers who eschewed denominational ties and practices that came out of the so-called Plymouth Brethren movement which began in the 1820s in Dublin. J.N. Darby was the prolific teacher and author who “discovered” the doctrine of the “rapture of the Church” and paved the way for the development of Christian Zionism.

    This young lady’s father graciously gave me access to his library so I read lots of Darby, C.H. Macintosh, F.W. Grant among others. It was a few years later that a friend introduced me to the Banner of Truth Trust and I became acquainted with a deep stream of Reformed theology and eventually discarded the premillenial baggage I had acquired.

    I will close with a quote from James B. Jordan. “Christian Zionism is blasphemy. It is a heresy. Christians have no theological stake whatsoever in the modern State of Israel. It is an anti-God, anti-Christ nation. Until it repents and says ‘blessed is He Who comes in the Name of the Lord,’ it will continue to be under the wrath of God.”

    • Replies: @DinoN
  11. Nathalie says:

    I too, came out of Christian Zionism into Preterist Idealism. I finally saw the Israel of the Bible was apostate for its continuous idolatrous ways & dealt with perfectly as Christ prophesied in Matthew 24:34. Jerusalem & it’s Temple was destroyed in 70AD. The New Covenant does not revolve around a nation or a temple but around the Kingdom of God being made available to ALL nations, all tribes, all tongues through Christ. The modern day nation of Israel & specifically its government is nothing more than Pharisaical rule which Christ vehemently condoned for their placing ‘their’ rules above real relationship with God. Every nation is important just like every life is important for God is NO respect or of persons. To make God show favoritism is to be ignorant of His character & His Word (Galatians 3:28)…which most of dispensational Christians ARE. The fulfillment of the prophetic words of Christ in the Olivet Discourse was evidence of the Divine Origin of the Scriptures. George Peter Holford wrote a book in 1805 that links actual historical events to the Bible its just too bad most western evangelicals are too reliant on man’s doctrine versus taking time statements & audience relevance seriously to even notice the discrepancies.

    • Replies: @John Q Duped
    , @anonymous
  12. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:

    “High fertility” rate is out of hate, greed, envy.

    “High morale” is because they get money for nothing and to murder for free.

    “A sense of meaning of purpose”: Their purpose and meaning are
    to lie, steal, cheat, deceive, murder, dominate. Well, seems to be their purpose.
    Meaning? They have no meaning.

    • Replies: @advancedatheist
  13. @anon

    The World according to Drugs…

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  14. @anon

    Evolutionary theory looks at the results, not the means.

    Humans have gone through similar religious transitions before, like how the Catholics who joined the earliest Protestant and Reformed churches almost immediately became “atheistic” towards the saints that their still-Catholic relatives and ancestors had prayed to for generations, and they saw that nothing bad happened to them when they stopped this practice.

    And I suspect something similar happened when our animist ancestors settled down as farmers and transitioned to early theism. The book of Genesis shows that farmers still struggled with conflicting beliefs in the Bronze Age, hence the cautionary tale about doing what your god says because the talking snake from the animist tradition gives you bad advice.

    So now people in what someone calls WEIRD societies (Wealthy, Educated, Industrialized, Rich, Democratic) have started what looks like an atheist transition. And I can see why this phenomenon gives Christians the creeps. One, functional atheists challenge the Christian theory of man’s nature. And two, atheism shows an implicit arrow of time, from nearly nonexistent atheists in the past, to numerous atheists now, to possibly universal atheists in the future. To Christians, atheists look like an invasion of time travelers from an advanced civilization in the future after Christianity and similar religions have disappeared.

    • Replies: @Mulegino1
  15. @Nathalie

    The God of the Old Testament and the God of the New Testament seem to be different. The Old T revolved only around the people He called His own. Now the New T opened the door for everybody and everything. For the God who sternly claimed that: “He changes not” He sure seemed to have changed His mind ….. unless we’ve been fooled. The devils children descended down from Cain are NOT included in anything except damnation. The same fate that Judas suffered will be theirs too.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @anarchyst
  16. @advancedatheist

    The author is mistaken that most Jews do not have a religion. They do have one – worship of the self, which is fundamentally what Judaism is.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  17. anonymous[143] • Disclaimer says:

    blood of Christ

    Why celebrate a Jewish firstborn-sacrifice holiday? As 1 Cor. 5:7 states: “Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed.” Passover is Jewish through and through. While Jews falsely claim to have a corner on salvation, they don’t. It’s OK to be White. If you think you need salvation, shop around for a plan from your own people, not middle-eastern foreigners.

    • Agree: RVBlake
    • Replies: @SeekerofthePresence
  18. Mulegino1 says:

    Israel is WEIRD alright:

    Wealthy (via parasitism, criminality, land theft and extortion of the goyim)

    Educated (mostly in Talmudic criminality and ripping off the goyim)

    Industrialized (thanks to stolen technology and patents)

    Rich (in the sense of comical )

    Democratic (if you define democracy as something inherited through the mother and the infant fellating mohel’s blade)

  19. Bill P says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    Yeah, it’s really a ridiculous idea when you think about it. Supposedly, God just set things in motion then walked away from it all. Now, God’s off somewhere else (not sure where) and the universe just keeps going like a wind-up clock. It’s almost cartoonish.

    As silly as it may be, this is the standard post-Christian Western elite’s theology. Look where that got the Unitarians…

    Not sure whether you’re interested, Kevin, but Nicholas of Cusa wrote some really good stuff back in the 15th century that I think you’d like.

    • Replies: @Kevin Barrett
  20. It is not atheists, agnostics, or even “spiritual but not religious” theists who are having the children, though.

    The groups in the USA who bother to have children above replacement level — as couples and as groups — are devoutly religious theistic people such as the Amish, Mormons, “fundamentalist” evangelical Christians, the minority of highly observant traditional Catholics, and Orthodox Jews.

    The people having children above replacement level in Northern, Western, and Southern Europe are, above all, Muslims.

  21. anonymous[143] • Disclaimer says:

    made available to ALL nations, all tribes, all tongues

    And that’s supposed to be a great thing? You Rabbi-worshipers are as much Internationalists/Globalists as George Soros himself.

    Every nation is important

    Black lives matter. You just have to be brothers-in-Christ with Blacks, don’t you? What’s the difference between you and Antifa’s missionary efforts to save all the Blacks from themselves?

  22. @Bill P

    Thank you for the heads up. Which Nicholas of Cusa work should I start with?

    As for the Unitarians, many of them, like Emerson, were nature mystics, not just deists. Today they mostly just sing kum bah ya. Black churches have better music. The Church of John Coltrane in San Francisco is one of the coolest. “A Love Supreme” = “Allah Supreme”?

    • Replies: @Bill P
  23. @anonymous

    As 1 Cor. 5:7 states: “Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed.”

    Amen and amen.

    True for all peoples, nations, tongues, and multitudes. That all may be One in love through His blood and Name.

  24. DinoN says:
    @Enemy of Earth

    How can anyone read so many Biblical Stories and then determine which one is the truth? Who can read and understand the Bible. Would God really communicate to his “Children” in such a complicated way? When I talk to my kids, I make sure they understand what I am saying. I would not speak in Parables!

  25. Bill P says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    De Docta Ignorantia (On Learned Ignorance) is what caught my attention initially. What attracted me to him was that he apparently came up with the concept of abductive reasoning about 400 years before CS Peirce, who is my favorite American philosopher. Peirce was a logician who had a profound influence on American computer science after his death in the early 20th century, but he was also something of a mystic who came up with a worldview he called “synechism” (

    De Cusa’s writings can be found online translated from the original Latin here:

    • Replies: @Kevin Barrett
  26. @Bill P

    Thank you for the interesting links. There seem to be parallels between De Cusa’s and Ibn ‘Arabi’s ways of contrasting the actual reality of God (which is unknowable) to the various conceptions of God held by human beings.

    • Replies: @Bill P
  27. Kevin, Forgive me if I overlooked it but I think that on your shows there’s a lack of discussion on the hydroxychloroquine treatment combined with zinc and AZT. John Hankey, if I understood him correctly in his video doc on COVID, seems to not think much about it. Dr. Meryl Nass was on one of your shows Kevin and she spoke well of its benefits when taken early. She refers to peer reviewed studies from website c19study. Not to mention the Lancet scandal over hydrox .. They had to retract their article where they were dismissing it after critics found flaws in report. Dr. Josh Mittledorf wrote about it and many others including Elizabeth Woodworth’s articles on GlobalResearch. Global Research’s news hour audio show with Michael Welch has done a recent 4 part show on COVID with various medical doctors (including Dr. Nass). Welch interviews Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi and he’s quite critical of a COVID vaccine and doesn’t think of COVID being much of a threat to the overall general population to the point of current lockdown measures. There’s also the report from last week from the three epidemiologists from Oxford, Stanford, and Harvard who announced their Barrington Declaration in favour of a much less restrictive lockdown so that much of the economy can run like normal. Many doctors it appears are continuing to sign-on. Including Doctors For Open Debate in Europe. Masking has critics including many medical professinals which Hankey doesn’t citeIncluding Canadian constitutional lawyer Rocco Galati and Canadian physicist Denis Rancourt. One doctor from recent audio interview on GR noted that about 100, 000 Americans would have lived if they had been treated with the hydroxy ..

  28. @advancedatheist

    Oh, the Israeli Miracle! “godless” women not only not having trouble to find and keep “godless” partners, but also as ready or more than Christian women to sacrifice their careers in order to be able to have children well above replacement rate. They really are the Chosen People in the Promised Land!

    You really need advanced degrees on chutzpah or be completely ignorant on Israeli’s population religiosity to call Israelis godless. 59 percent of the population in Israel is religious, including Muslims, Druze and Christians. Excluding the aforementioned groups, 42 percent of Israel’s total population are considered very religious Jews by Western religiosity standards. This includes Haredi (Ultra-Ortodox) Dati (Religious) and Masorti (Traditional: very religious by Western standards).

    And this 42 percent is increasing, while the Hiloni (Secular) population decreasing, acording to enrollment statistics into the 3 different types of education available for Jews in Israel:

    The education system in Israel is split into three tracks—national, national-religious, and haredi. The following graph presents changes in the number and distribution of Jewish school children across these three tracks. As you can see, the proportion of kids in secular (national curriculum) schools is decreasing, and the proportion in the haredi schools is growing fast.

    To top it off, of this remaining 41 percent considered secular, the overwhelming majority are zionist, considered a quasi religion by many.

    Not to talk about believers in holocaustianity, 99.9 percent of all Jews in Israel.

    Bottomline, nice try but no cigar. You are not that advanced.

  29. A Gallup poll shows that 65% of Israelis have no religion at all! (Israel among the least religious countries in the world)

    This is pure BS see comment number 30. And declaring oneself religious is meaningless, what matters is how observant Israelis are and their level of religiosity by Western standards.

    Way more complicated than counting how many random Israelis declared themselves religious in a 1000 phone interviews. or however they obtained their data.

    Still comment 30 proves this narrative to be PR bollocks, of the same kind available in the many recent triumphalist articles and papers “debunking” the Israeli ticking demographic bomb.

  30. anarchyst says:
    @John Q Duped

    We also have to get away from the “judeo-Christian” mindset, as well…

    Using the “Old Testament” for “laws” is wrong. Yes, the Ten Commandments are a good guide which proscribes certain behaviors, but the rest of mosaic law relies on a vindictive, vengeful “god” to exact “punishment” on “his people”.

    That my work fine for jews, as they have their evil jewish supremacist “talmud” to rely on, but “for the rest of us”, it won’t wash.

    In fact, every jewish “holiday” (holy day) is based on the celebration of genocide and destruction of gentiles.

    Our present troubles are a result of a jewish cabal taking over political and social decisions in our nominally “multicultural” country.

    The major problem is jewish destruction of civil societies which are evident everywhere in the world in which jews reside. Jews are a “poison” to secular societies.

    Tying Judaism to Christianity was a clever trick used by the jews to “cement” their claim to the “land of Israel” and of the covenant, to which I reply, “God is not a real estate agent”.

    Jews rejected the covenant when they murdered Jesus Christ. Their covenant with God was then “null and void”.

    It is the flawed Schofield translation of the Bible that elevated jews to the status of Christianity’s “elder brothers”, which was then reinforced by the Catholic (flawed) “Vatican II Ecumenical Council” in the 1960s.

    I cringe when I hear well-meaning people talk about out judeo-Christian heritage.

    Nothing could be further from the truth.

    The only common thread between Christianity and judaism may be the Ten Commandments, nothing more, the “Old Testament” being primarily the rantings of a vengeful “god”, attempting to keep his “people” (jews) in line.

    The god of judaism is a vengeful god, totally unlike the merciful and welcoming God of Christianity.

    Christianity welcomes ALL, regardless of nationality or social status, not true of judaism. Jewish supremacy is evident throughout its vile “talmud”.

    Judaism is an insular belief system that shuns outsiders, prohibits proselytization, and promotes a form of supremacy, relegating all gentiles (non-jews) to the status of livestock-subhumans with souls, only to be used for the advancement and benefit of the jews.

    In fact, slavery (of goyim) is still condoned and encouraged in the jewish Talmud.


    Sad to say, even the present-day (post-Vatican II ecumenical council) Catholic church has bought into absolving the jews for Jesus Christ’s murder.

    As always is the case, even today, the jews got others, the Romans to do their dirty work for them, the crucifixion of Jesus Christ.

    How can Christians have the same values as the Jews; the very people who denounced and betrayed the founder of Christianity, Jesus Christ, and call for his execution? (by others, of course, that is the Jewish way).

    It makes absolutely no sense at all.

    Jews have no respect for Christianity, for Jesus Christ or Mary, his mother, who are both honored as Prophets in Islam, but instead, Jews spit on hearing their names and do the same while passing a Christian of any kind or a Christian Church in Israel. They have no respect for Christians or any other religion.

    It is time the Jewish lobbies and the American Government leaders as well as the evangelical Christian leaders who mislead the poor American young into joining the military and believing that they are doing something for God and Christianity by fighting Israel’s wars were named, shamed and arrested and tried for treason.

    In fact, the IDF’s (israel defense forces) favorite “war song” is “Onward Christian Soldiers”.

    • Replies: @DinoN
    , @anon
  31. DinoN says:

    So where was GOD when the Jews were planning to kill His Son, Jesus! Was all of this part of the Christian GOD’s plan?

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  32. anarchyst says:

    The jews could have accepted Jesus Christ as the fulfillment of the “covenant”, but instead decided to continue on their money-grubbing, power-grabbing insolent ways, handing the covenant to the rest of the world, purposely leaving themselves out of it for short-term material gain.

  33. Bill P says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    I’d like to read Ibn Arabi, but how would you rate the translations? I know enough Latin to compare the original to the English version when I feel it necessary for a more thorough understanding, but I can’t even read Arabic. Honestly, I often avoid German philosophy as well due to my ignorance of German. With Latin and French at least I can be fairly confident about the translations.

    I’ve recently been fascinated with this issue of the limits of understanding, but also with what it is about humans that gives us a greater understanding than other living things. That’s what compelled me to start studying philosophy a few years ago. I went from reading neurology texts to reading Kant and listening to Chalmers’ lectures in fairly short order. It’s pretty amazing how quickly we run into brick walls when relying on empirical evidence. In fact, I’d go so far as to say that if we only relied on empirical knowledge and classical logic science itself wouldn’t have produced nearly such impressive results.

    This leads me to suspect that there is something divine about human inspiration, but again it isn’t one of those things you can “know” with certainty, if indeed we can know anything with certainty.

    • Replies: @Kevin Barrett
  34. @Bill P

    William Chittick’s work on Ibn Arabi is excellent. You might also like Isutzu’s book on Sufism and Taoism which draws on Ibn Arabi:

    The Qur’an is actually harder to translate than Ibn Arabi. Here’s a valiant attempt to grapple with the problems and convey a sense of the Arabic original (which cannot possibly be done without including an audio CD):

    • Replies: @Bill P
  35. @Kevin Barrett

    >Israel the world’s worst genocide perpetrator

    Literally true for they are the world’s worst at perpetrating genocide. Since their Naqba in 1948, the Palestinian population has grown by leaps and bounds both in Israel and in the West Bank. According to Wikipedia –

    Despite various wars and exoduses (such as that of 1948), roughly one half of the world’s Palestinian population continues to reside in historic Palestine, the area encompassing the West Bank, the Gaza Strip, and Israel.[46] In this combined area, as of 2005, Palestinians constituted 49% of all inhabitants,[47] encompassing the entire population of the Gaza Strip (1.865 million),[48] the majority of the population of the West Bank (approximately 2,785,000 versus about 600,000 Jewish Israeli citizens, which includes about 200,000 in East Jerusalem) and almost 21% of the population of Israel proper as Arab citizens of Israel.[49][50] Many are Palestinian refugees or internally displaced Palestinians, including more than a million in the Gaza Strip,[51] about 750,000 in the West Bank[52] and about 250,000 in Israel proper. Of the Palestinian population who live abroad, known as the Palestinian diaspora, more than half are stateless, lacking citizenship in any country.[53] Between 2.1 and 3.24 million of the diaspora population live as refugees in neighboring Jordan,[54][55] over 1 million live between Syria and Lebanon and about 750,000 live in Saudi Arabia, with Chile’s half a million representing the largest concentration outside the Middle East.

    • Replies: @Kevin Barrett
  36. @Anonymouse

    The genocide is real (check the legal definition):

    The Palestinians are the world’s most heroic and accomplished genocide resisters.

  37. anon[128] • Disclaimer says:

    welcomes ALL, regardless of nationality or social status

    How is that a good thing?

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  38. anarchyst says:

    Your question is valid and deserves an intelligent response.

    Christians of all types are welcome within the faith. This does not negate the need or desire for Christians to establish their own racially or culturally separate communities. There is absolutely nothing wrong with Christians who desire to do so.

    Many people have the mistaken assumption that Christianity demands that racial or cultural boundaries be abolished. Nothing could be further from the truth.

    Yes, there are Christian sects that preach (and desire) “multiculturalism and diversity”, much of this attitude being driven by outside (jewish) interests, in order to destabilize Christian and other cultural and societal preferences.

    THAT is the jewish way–reserving social and cultural exclusivity for themselves while spreading their “multiculturalism and diversity” poison demanding that “the rest of us” give up social and cultural exclusivity.

    All one has to do is see what jews did to Catholicism with the imposition of their “mandates” on the Vatican II Ecumenical Council. It is when jews got their “get out of jail free” card, being “forgiven” for the crucifixion and death of Jesus Christ, despite their hatred of Jesus Christ and Christianity that exists to this very day.

    Best regards,

  39. ” Now the New T opened the door for everybody . . .”

    Certainly not open to everything, but has always been open to everyone who so desires a relationship with him.

  40. “How is that a good thing?”

    It means nothing about anyone serves as a natural barrier to God’s grace and a relationship with him, if they choose.

    And the nonsense that color, status, nationality or other human formed structures simply are not an impediment or a help in having a relationship with Christ.

  41. “How is that a good thing?”

    Because how smart, how dumb, what IQ, what color, what holier than thou, how fallen, what nationality, simply is not a standard that Go cares about in order to have a relationship with him.

    Your sins, frailties, ailings, mistakes, character flaws, regrets, your unbelief, are all understood by a God and pose no barrier to knowing him, if you want.

    Been betrayed, lied about, mislead, cheated on . . . there’s only barrier to knowing him, a person’s will. That rejection blaspheming his spirit . . . but one can always turn from that —


  42. Bill P says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    Thank you, Kevin, I appreciate the pointer. I’ll definitely be reading Chittick’s translation soon.

    As far as I understand (from what I gather from what Muslims say), the main point of contention between Christianity and Islam hinges on epistemology. I think I ought to familiarize myself with Islamic thought on this matter. Historically, it has had a very significant influence on Christian philosophy, which is too often dismissed with polemics these days.

    BTW, since you seem to be a music aficionado, could you recommend some Sufi chants? I really enjoy that stuff. I’m also a big fan of Persian classical music, but I wouldn’t classify that as Islamic per se.

  43. “Historically, it has had a very significant influence on Christian philosophy, which is too often dismissed with polemics these days.”

    You’ll have to explain this.

    The tension between Islamic belief and Christianity is the risen Christ

    . s say, Jesus did not rise from the grave in three days. And that Jesus is not the Messiah.

    As far as influence one to the other consider this, Islam adopts both New Testament and Old Testament record, Christianity adopts nothing from Islamic belief – nothing, unless I missed something.

    Just a note . . .

  44. As-salaamu ‘alaikum.

    Brother Kevin,

    Re: The origins of zionism

    Consider Jeremiah 8: 8 (as translated from an Arabic Bible):

    How do you say ‘We are wise and the Law of the Lord is with us’? Surely the lying pens of the scribes have turned it into The Lie.

    As mentioned herein, “The Lie” refers to the falsehood that salvation comes in Israel rather than in Ishmael. Solomon ‘alaihis-salaam deposed the renegade priests of Judah and Levi for fabricating The Lie and, as such, abandoning the Promise they made at Sinai to announce the Good News (Gospel) to the nations when their Messiah came. [See Qur’an 2: 102.]

    Pauline Christianity was their invention, a paganism tailor-made to apotheosize the Jew and divert goyim from clear prophecies of The Book concerning Islam. Zionism is the inevitable product of The Lie.


    • Replies: @AnonStarter
  45. @AnonStarter

    Consider as well the Kebra Negast, the sole text that attempts to provide an explanation for the location of the most sacred relic in Judaism, the Ark of the Covenant. Among Ethiopians and Rastafarians alike, there are significant variations in the narrative which strongly suggest that Solomon willingly sent the Ark south to Axum with Menelik — his son by Sheba — and an entourage of trusted Israelites. (The widely accepted narrative suggests that Menelik attempted to steal the Ark.)

    Solomon originally wanted Menelik as his successor in Palestine, though his son declined. The respect accorded to him would have certainly rankled the elite of Israel.


  46. Deanne says: • Website

    I just found your interview with Vince. My departure from and rejection of Christian Zionism is similar and led me ultimately to write a book on the darker spiritual aspect of Judaism known as Kabbalah. Most Christian Zionists who stand with Israel have no idea that today’s Judaism is diametrically opposed to the Old faith of the prophets and this is what I show in the book. Some orthodox branches of Judaism view Christianity as Edom, the eternal enemy of the Jews, and claim that their “Moshiach” will destroy all Christians (and Muslims and anyone else) who do not support their coming “Jewish Utopia.” There are even those in the Messianic denomination (cult) of Christianity who are now openly teaching this and gaining many followers, not to mention the growing movement of Noahides who believe the same. I will include a link to my website on the true identity of Edom, as I believe the hate of this agenda must be exposed for the lie that it is. My email address is [email protected].

Current Commenter

Leave a Reply - Comments on articles more than two weeks old will be judged much more strictly on quality and tone

 Remember My InformationWhy?
 Email Replies to my Comment
Submitted comments have been licensed to The Unz Review and may be republished elsewhere at the sole discretion of the latter
Commenting Disabled While in Translation Mode
Subscribe to This Comment Thread via RSS Subscribe to All Kevin Barrett Comments via RSS