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Coronavirus, Spirituality, & Politics: Shia/Sufi/Muslim Perspectives Pt. 1: Andrew Israel & Charles Upton
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First half hour: Andrew Israel (Muhammad Al Mahdi) reverted to Shia Islam from Judaism last Ramadan. As the Anglo-Zionist war on the “Shia crescent” (a.k.a. the Axis of Resistance) intensifies, even in the midst of the coronavirus crisis, this might be a good time to check in with him…

Next half hour: Charles Upton discusses his new article “A Sufi Response to the Coronavirus.” A poet, author, and activist who has published numerous books on Sufism, metaphysics, and other topics, he is currently a leading proponent of the Covenants Initiative.

(Republished from Truth Jihad by permission of author or representative)
• Category: Ideology • Tags: Coronavirus, Islam 
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  1. Talha says:

    Great stuff!!! Thanks – always good to hear from Brother Charles.

    Stay safe, and may the circumstance of this tribulation only be a means of you drawing closer to Him.

    Also, have you heard of Dr. Shadee Elmasry? It would be great to have him intevewed by you on practically any subject and also, it’s been a while since you talked to Br. Daniel Haqiqatjou.

    Wa salaam.

  2. polistra says:

    FWIW, here’s my Islam-flavored response to the panication.

    • Thanks: Talha
  3. “Andrew Israel (Muhammad Al Mahdi) reverted to Shia Islam from Judaism last Ramadan.”

    I will give a theology lesson on this nonsense. Andrew Israel cannot revert to Islam from Judaism without dealing with the Christians. The Bible contains the Old and New Testaments. The Old Testament is the New Testament concealed. The New Testament is the Old Testament revealed. The Koran is a farrago, dog’s breakfast of Arab pagan beliefs, some sections of the Old Testament and hearsay about Christianity. It has nothing to do with the Bible. Abrahamic religions is an oxymoron.

    Andrew Israel was born Jewish. However, present day Jews are not the chosen and no longer have a covenant with God. Present day Jews practice rabbinical Judaism based on the Talmud and Kabbalah. The Torah means little as the Talmud and Kabbalah are used to get around the Ten Commandments. We will have to give modern day Judaism a new name.

    Islam is a Christian heresy. Islam denies that Jesus is God. The little it states about Jesus in the Koran is wrong.

    Andrew Israel, how do you deal with the Jesus mentioned in the Koran? You can’t because you know nothing about Christianity.

    KB and Andrew Israel practice a false religion.

    • Replies: @Dumbo
    , @anon
  4. Talha says:

    Absolutely beautiful and comprehensive reflection…adding to what Br. Charles Upton mentioned:

    The whole world seems to be doing a level of fasting from our normal materialist, consumer-driven reality.

    Br. Kevin, if you could get Sh. Abdal Hakim Murad on for a topic, that would be great.

    Also, when I mentioned Dr. Shadee Elmasry, he is actually a good person to have a talk about regarding things like open-borders, tribalism, etc.


  5. Dumbo says:

    reverted to Shia Islam from Judaism last Ramadan.

    I always found it silly that Muslims say “reverted” instead of “converted”. Judaism is much older than Islam, how can one “revert” to a newer religion? The concept is ridiculous.

    It is true that during the early Middle Ages, Islam was considered a Christian heresy because it denied the divinity of Jesus. That is why Dante put Mohammed in Hell. But I think that the inspiration for Islam comes more from Talmudic Judaism – Islam and (haredim) Judaism are actually very similar religions, Christianity is the one that is different.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  6. anon[260] • Disclaimer says:

    “I will give a theology lesson”:

    1 – Saul the Pharisee was a liar and a killer (he started with the killing and then graduated to lies on the road to Damascus). [John 8:44] – You can not follow both Jesus and Saul.

    2 – Moses, Mary, Mohammad “carry and deliver” the word of God.

    3 – The Word given to Moses was carried in the Ark.

    4 – The Word given to Mary was carried in her Womb.

    5 – The Word given to Mohammad is carried in the Heart.

    The progression is clear and the “theological” message equally clear to the discerning.

    Other religions:

    The purpose and nature of TAO is discussed at the beginning of Sura 55.
    Buddhist views elaborated in the rest of Sura 55.

    The Sura is called after ITs revealed (new) name to ITs Messenger, Mohammad of Quraysh (SAW).

    It is called Ar-Rahman.

  7. anon[260] • Disclaimer says:

    Who is this God that Muslims pray to?

    It is the very same God that Jesus publicly worshiped. So, those who “follow Jesus” do as he did and worship as he did.

    It follows that Muslims are the true follower of Jesus son of Mary.

    As to those who worship Jesus son of Mary as God, you are to read the Gospel of Jesus, Luke 13:72.


  8. @anon

    Can’t find Luke 13:72 in my Bible. Where did it go?

  9. @Dumbo

    Good points. Shariah is based on the Book of Leviticus, i.e., stoning adulterers, not eating pork.

    Mohammed did not know many Christians and the few he did know were not Trinitarians. This is why in the Koran statements about Jesus are very bizarre. I’ve read the Koran and most of it has nothing to do with the Old and New Testaments.

    The Jews that Mohammed knew were practicing a false Judaism based on the Talmud and Kabbalah. When the Temple was destroyed in 70 A.D., the Jews could no longer worship and make animal sacrifices. Also, the records of the Jewish priesthood were destroyed after the Simon Bar Kokhba rebellion. The Apostles were the new priests and priestly, apostolic succession came from them.

    Modern day Judaism and Islam are relativistic. The Talmud and the Hadiths allow Jews and Muslims to lie and steal from non-Jews and non-Muslims. Christianity is based on absolute principles and Christians are obligated to treat everyone fairly regardless of their belief system. This is why repatriating these groups is important.

    Also, we have these bizarre conversations between Jews and Muslims. Where I live, the synagogues will advertise events between Jews and Muslims so that they can get to know each other better. This is stupid. Jews and Muslims know little about Jesus and the New Testament, and the New Testament is between the Old Testament and the Koran.

    What’s worse is that priests and preachers will not bring up these points. People like E. Michael Jones, Brother Nathaniel and Michael A. Hoffman II are useless because of their anti-Semitism. Also, the IQ/race/ethnicity issue is critical.

    I’m going to have to start my own podcasts so I can deal with the nonsense concerning religion and politics.

  10. Dumbo says:

    An Arab religion that worships the moon, that does not recognize the divinity of Jesus nor nothing of the development of European Christianity during 600 years, has nothing to do with Christianity. In Islam, Jesus is a smaller in importance than Mohammed. If that’s not an heresy, what is.

    Nothing against Muslims, except – stay in your own damn countries and stop invading Europe in search of gibs me. Go back home. Leave us alone.

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