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Over the last five years, thanks to the political flailing of Donald Trump, millions of Western people have discovered that the three main pillars of the democratic state religion are fraudulent.

First, they have seen that voting does not work (unless you vote for the agenda of the permanent government). Twice the American people voted for a nationalist, anti-government, anti-leftist agenda. The first time, they got four years of nothing, and the second time their worthless ballots were simply outweighed by fake ones. In practically every way, the cultural revolution has advanced more dramatically than would have been the case under Trump’s leftist opponent.

Second, they have seen that activism does not work (unless you are protesting on behalf of the permanent government). Twice the supporters of Trump staged large-scale public protests in support of his floundering agenda. The first time, they brought Nazi larpers and violent street-fighters, and caused the deaths of others.The second time, they kept out the Nazis and minimised the violence, and suffered deaths on their own side. Both times, they were hunted down as domestic terrorists, while the state applauded pro-government activists for a ‘racial reckoning’ attended by a huge wave of violence.

Third, they have seen that the same applies to agitprop. By this, I don’t mean the persuasion of the masses per se, but the specifically democratic principle of whipping up crude popular emotion and expecting this to change the acts of government. Trump may have got nothing done, but he at least managed to spend four years ranting against the Left from the highest office in the United States, and according to conservative mythology this should have caused the Overton Window to shift to the Right. Well, you can judge for yourself whether that window is moved more decisively by the wind of public opinion or the hand of state power.

To say that millions of people have seen all of this does not mean that they have interpreted it correctly, but the writing is all there on the wall. Westerners live under a totalitarian permanent government, obscured by a quasi-ceremonial election system. This government is not some sort of shadowy conspirational oligarchy, but simply the true face of modern democracy, which is just another tyrannical leftist secular religion like its communist sister. Voting, activism and agitprop are not ‘civic rights’ that exist for the people, but rather civic rites that serve to prop up the state religion of democracy. One way in which they do this is by keeping dissidents invested in its structures, instead of rejecting them – like so many tame Martin Luthers pursuing a futile quest to climb up the Catholic Church hierarchy and try to become Pope.

Is this a ‘blackpill’? Maybe. If so, then all I can say in its defence is that dissidents are ‘blackpilled’ – i.e. absolutely pessimistic – on every other aspect of the democratic religion. Whether it is the project to equalise the races, the quest to make women happy by emasculating men, or the crusade to spread democracy across the world by blockade, war and revolution, our sole strategic recommendation is “for fuck’s sake just stop trying” and we do not care if we are called defeatist or demoralising or worse.

So why stop at the project to achieve rightist ends through a leftist political religion? Redpill or blackpill, surely they are all just emetics to help us spit out the lies that we imbibed with our soy baby formula.

But there’s a difference, isn’t there? ‘Redpills’ puncture the narcissistic fantasies of non-whites, females, progressives, etc., so they are much to the taste of the core dissident demographic. ‘Blackpills’ puncture the narcissistic fantasies of non-progressive white men, so they are bitter and unpopular. All the same, they should be treated as equivalent, because non-progressive white men are not served by narcissistic fantasies – especially those that are supplied by a regime that hates our guts and depend on our supporting it. Truth is the only real weapon that we have ever had in our arsenal, and it will not suffer to be held at arm’s length.

A few months ago – when Trump and QAnon were being forced to show their empty hands – I half-expected most of the Dissident Right to come around to this point of view by default. Surely, after such a monumental betrayal by the con party, dissidents would not go back to holding their noses and voting for it. Surely, after ‘trust the plan’, they would not go back to monitoring the public opinion situation and fiddling with the optics on their activist Nerf guns.

But I was wrong, of course, because cope springs eternal.

In this case, the cope consists of dumping all the blame for the fraud on Trump (who hasn’t exactly benefited from it) and the usual crop of useless and scheming cuckservative politicians. Once you have reduced everything to a question of personal bad faith, you can safely continue believing in the dogmas and structures of democracy, and rest assured that there is no better option than to endlessly support the con party until you finally get a man who he means what he says into office. Well, what are you waiting for? “Go to a local chapter and make yourself useful.”

You might be able to make yourself very useful, because the con party is in a state of transition. Its old brand of conservative libertarian populism has won it many votes over the decades, but unfortunately it has done nothing at all to conserve the liberty of the people. The bait has been rotting on the hook for a long time, and the obvious solution is to switch to a new brand of conservative nationalist populism.

Ultimately, the adoption of this plan depends on the sufferance of the prog party – which may not be collectively wise enough to understand that this ‘nationalist’ windbaggery will do nothing at all for the nation, while doing a great deal for the corporate and military interests that are actually served by the con party. But it depends on something else as well: the willingness of dissidents, whether libertarian or nationalist, to be used by the con party in the misguided belief that they are using it.

Conservatism Must Be Destroyed

The problem is that the right wing of the Left is a lot harder to escape than it looks. Who’d’ve thought that it could make its prolebait out of libertarian theories, devised by people like Murray Rothbard who viewed the state as little more than a mob of bandits? But there are always several degrees of cutting, drying and pressing between dissident radicalism and the conservative rosette. And any set of rightist ideas might undergo them – unless it rejects democratic principles, avoids co-optation through the civic rites, and begins and ends all its business with the maxim conservatism must be destroyed.

We can divide the various ideological groupings on the Right into three categories: high-church conservatism, low-church conservatism, and dissidence.

High-church conservatives, needless to say, are the professional con party politicians, activists and propagandists. And dissidents should require little comment: they are the people who have recognised the high-church cons as fraudulent, separated themselves, and actually seek to oppose the state.

Fall further
Fall further

Low-church conservatives are caught in the unhappy medium between these two extremes. They are divided into a mass of sects that all dissent from high-church conservatism, but do not go far enough in purging themselves of its democratic ideology. It has become expedient for the con party to let them go their own way in obscurity for a time – until they build up solid theory and popular appeal, at which point they can be re-appropriated by cucks and sellouts. They are like fruits falling off a rotting tree, and spawning new healthy saplings, which are then pruned down and grafted back onto the main trunk in order to keep it alive.

At the peak of the Alt-Right, this threefold division was viewed as follows. The high-church cons were cuckservatives – generally identified by the stench of neocon grease and corporate swill mixed with the cold sweat of cowardice. The low-church cons were in the Alt-Lite, which was mainly a libertarian and civic nationalist movement. And the dissidents were in the Alt-Right, which was (by 2016 at least) an essentially white nationalist movement with some internal disagreements over strategy and relations with the Alt-Lite.

At this time, I disliked this narrowing of the Alt-Right to white nationalism, on the grounds that it weakened the movement. But I accepted that white nationalism was about as ‘dissident’ an ideology as you could get.

After all, isn’t it completely taboo? Toxic to high-church conservatism? Devoted to breaking up the American heartland and/or the wider Western empire? And, last but not least, descended from the fascist movements of the early twentieth century? Those movements may not set a good example in the present day, but they were at least something distinct from the failed democratic conservative tradition.

But what sort of real-world political behaviour is induced by belief in white nationalist ideology? The pitiable death throes of the Alt-Right since it was wooed back to politics by Trump has told us the answer. Endless, one-sided, masochistic courtship of the con party. Endless performative activism that entraps young dissidents and buttresses the cause of the Left. And endless, invincible faith in the potential of agitprop to wake up the people at the last moment – which serves to absolve white nationalists of any responsibility to come up with better ideas.

As far as I know (and admittedly, I stopped following most of it some time ago), the Movement’s activists are now divided into conservative-signalling ‘amnats’ and fascist-signalling ‘wignats’. Neither side, it seems, can ever appear reasonable except in comparison with the other. The wignats destroyed the original Alt-Right by adopting the failed strategy of Rockwell, and are now engaged in pointless third-position electioneering. The amnats are tainted by the fraudulence of Trump and QAnon, which must spell certain death for people who think that all things rotten can be polished clean by ‘good optics’.

Then there are the ‘metapolitical’ white-nats, who devote themselves to intellectual work, and are detached enough from activism to avoid the lows of MAGA cope and the heights of Nazi lunacy. Examples include Counter-Currents, Occidental Dissent, Occidental Observer, and Amren. Many writers on these sites are doing good work, documenting the course of anti-white policy in minute detail, and persuading open-minded white people that the regime despises them and that the feeling ought to be mutual.

It’s also hard to argue when they say that there are future opportunities in store for them. The anti-white racism of the democratic regime becomes more vicious by the day, and will surely stoke anger in ordinary white people. The question is whether all that anger will end up launching a real dissident movement, or else be contained by the regime and diverted towards puffing up more fraudulent conservative windbags. We need have no doubt that the cutting, drying and pressing techniques will work just as well on white nationalist talking points as they did on libertarian ones.

It’s high time we made a distinction between white racial feeling and white nationalist ideology. The feeling, on its own, is a powerful motive force that naturally impels us towards dissidence. The ideology, as I’ll show, is an framework of democratic delusions that compels us instead to support conservatism. The only thing that conservatism conserves is democracy – and democracy, with all due respect to those who say that its true benign form has never been tried, is both the theoretical basis and the practical mechanism for the state-sponsored displacement of whites.

The Sacred White Elephant of the Dissident Right

Somehow, I can’t imagine that the majority of white nationalists will be at all receptive to such an argument. They live in a very simple world: white nationalism is pro-white, ergo, you who dare to criticise must be anti-white. You must hate your own race, or maybe you are an antifa concern troll, or a Jew on the Mossad payroll, etc.. (I wish this were a strawman, but as I’ve witnessed at first hand, this is how most white-nats actually talk to people who criticise them even on relatively minor points.)

White nationalism has an effective, though unoriginal, mechanism of self-defence: a double standard. It presumes to judge all other ideologies – as well as religions, philosophies, moral codes, etc. – by a ruthless litmus test, namely “does it promote white survival?” And if you can insinuate that the answer is ‘no’, or even just ‘maybe’, you can build a case for discarding the thing and substituting more white nationalism. But try telling a white-nat that white nationalism itself cannot possibly pass its own test, and you may as well be trying to tell a democrat that democracy is bad for the people.

Be that as it may, why should dissidents owe eternal fealty to an ideology that has accomplished nothing of significance – and done nothing to retard the advance of the Left – since the defeat of Adolf Hitler almost eighty years ago?

Speaking of Herr Hitler, I wish that white nationalists would spend less time debating his modern-day reputation (irredeemable, of course) and his status as a forerunner of their ideology (unassailable, of course), and spend more time asking why he managed to get something like white nationalism into power when every subsequent attempt has ended in laughable failure.

One reason is that Weimar Germany had been recently and imperfectly converted to liberal democracy. Much of its government was still in the hands of ‘conservative elites’ – by modern Western standards, undemocratic or semi-democratic reactionaries, a very different species from the right-wing leftists who wear the name ‘conservative’ today.

Mussolini, another reactionary populist, with the king who appointed him into power
Mussolini, another reactionary populist, with the king who appointed him into power

Some of these elites were in the judiciary, and let fascist street-fighters off lightly when they brawled with communist thugs. Others were in politics, and were responsible for first suspending parliamentary government, and then appointing Hitler to the high government office from which he manouevred into permanent power. Still others were in the military, and would go on to command the German armies that conquered Europe and pre-emptively invaded the USSR.

All the struggles Hitler wrote about in Mein Kampf – the propaganda, the activism, the street fights against communists, etc. – amounted only to the populist wing of a reactionary political modus operandi, that also depended upon patronage dispensed from existing positions in the power structure. From the perspective of reactionary elites, the elevation of popular seducers and ideologues was not necessarily desirable, but it was a price that had to be paid to keep state power out of communist hands in an era of mass politics.

This Faustian bargain ended in tragedy, and all that has followed on its heels is farce.

In the modern West, reactionary elites have been purged or reduced to powerlessness, and political division within the ruling class has become a lovers’ spat between liberal democratic factions. And both sides agree that ‘fascists’ are to be ostracised at all costs. So the populist wing of the early 20th-century reactionary strategy must go it alone – and while it can still vote, march and shout, it cannot get anywhere by these methods, because it has no patrons in government. (That is, unless you count the democratic media, which is happy to publicise neo-fascist larping for its own hostile purposes.)

What this should have taught us – at least after decades upon decades of trying and failing! – is that the ‘sovereign people’ were never really in charge, and that voters in democracy are more like a mass of peasant recruits for ritual civil wars between elite factions. That insight, coupled with the observation that the majority of the white voting pool has been entirely reduced to fighting on the defensive, would get most whites to dissidence pretty quickly.

But most white nationalists respond to failure by doubling down on the most democratic elements of fascist ideology. They more they fail to make any headway in the here and now, the more they retreat into the deus ex machina fantasy of a White Awakening – a spontaneous mass conversion, that will be triggered when white people lose hard enough, and will either topple the state from below or instantly ‘flip’ most white elites.

Any delusion that is proven wrong in the present can find a safe refuge in the future, and the delusion of democracy as a state ultimately controlled by its people is no exception.

This democratic copium addiction has brought about a deeper ideological degeneration. Hitler believed that the state is just a vessel for the biological substance of the people. But in his day, this sort of racial dogmatism had to coexist with the state-centred doctrine of fascism, as well as the existing reactionary heritage of pre-conquest Germany. The resulting Nazi ideology didn’t make much sense, but it at least managed to run a state (into the ground) for twelve years, partly on the basis of hierarchical principles that cannot be derived from any amount of racial theorising.

But modern white nationalists are entirely obsessed with racism, perhaps because is one of the more democratic elements of fascist ideology (which is why it also takes pride of place in mainstream democratic ideology, albeit under the Orwellian name of ‘anti-racism’). Race is an important reality of life, but to build an entire worldview upon it – to the exclusion or minimisation of everything else – can only lead to the sort of casuistry engaged in by Marxists obsessed with reducing everything to class.

This casuistry conjures up a simplified fantasy world in which white nationalism is actually viable. Opposition to white solidarity comes from Jews, non-whites, and an assortment of paid shills and ‘ethnomasochists’ – not the majority of white elites, and a much larger population of status-seekers, who have every interest in creating victim groups. Whites are suffering a generic mass genocide, which would soon push them into self-defence if they only knew about it – not a racialised anti-kulak campaign that encourages them to escape censure by disowning their own kind. And so on.

The democratic ‘culture war’ divides everyone in the West into two warring factions, which overlap with race, sex, class and several other social categories. It is a fundamental religious conflict between the partisans of the state and the people, which will not be laid to rest until our government is no longer run on the basis of ritual civil war. Yet some white nationalists seriously expect to elevate white racial solidarity over the Left-Right divide. You may as well try to unite mediaeval Guelphs and Ghibellines around the banner of ‘Italianness’, or teach modern-day Israelis and Palestinians to call themselves ‘Semites’ and not eat pigs together.

Another ‘improvement’ over the fascist past is the rejection of imperialism. Some postwar fascist writers, such as Mosley and Yockey, criticised the Axis powers for having been too limited by petty nationalism. Modern white nationalists are more likely to criticise them for having tried to conquer territories beyond the living spaces of their own peoples.

To my knowledge, all white nationalists agree on the principle of disowning political control of non-white people. (That is to say, if a given territory has any significant number of them, then either they or that territory should be jettisoned). Some go further, and insist on a separate country for every single white ethnic group in Europe. And the most common plan of action in the heartland of the American empire is to create an independent white ethnostate (e.g. the Northwest Republic), where whites can defend themselves against the multi-racial hordes surrounding them on all sides.

Rhodesia-in-Cascadia, a.k.a. the Northwest Republic
Rhodesia-in-Cascadia, a.k.a. the Northwest Republic

In this, white nationalism shows its true conservative identity. Conservatism is the delusional ethos of retreating from the progressive advance, drawing magic lines in the sand, and trusting the enemy to respect those lines in spite of his notorious taste for psychotic crusading aggression. In this case, the magic line is a national border, which is simply assumed to grant independent sovereignty by default.

As I argued in this long post on nationalism, that assumption doesn’t hold true nowadays, because the West has been consolidated into a worldwide empire centred on the United States. Most ‘sovereign nation-states’ are satrapies of this empire, and those that are truly and consistently independent – i.e. Russia and China – are runner-up empires masquerading as nation-states.

In that post, I compared this change to the establishment of empire in the ancient Chinese culture-area, which permanently abolished the petty-state order that preceded it. What I may not have mentioned is that there was a brief attempt to restore the old petty-state order in ancient China, led by one of the rebel warlords who orchestrated the collapse of the short-lived first empire. It ended when another warlord swiftly conquered the petty states, and reunited them into a four-hundred-year-long empire that set the benchmark for all subsequent Chinese dynasties.

Any outbreak of civil war in the heartlands of the modern Western empire is likely to develop in a similar way: division followed by reconquest. Those who would win such a conflict, and end up defining the political order that follows it, will be those who do not hamper themselves with too many conservative scruples about conquering territory beyond ‘natural’ boundaries. Of course, there’s a corollary to this: in the event that power struggles weaken central authority, it might be possible to carve out local enclaves and quietly take back some power. But white nationalism is the worst possible mixture of the offensive and defensive approach. It is ideologically committed to starting a war for territory that it has no intention of ending on its own terms.

Just in case the annals of remote foreign histories don’t convince you of this verdict, let’s look at modern examples of leftist totalitarian states. In France under the Thermidorians and Napoleon, in Russia under Stalin and his successors, and in China under Deng Xiaoping, we see a common pattern of transition from revolutionary chaos to big-state nationalist order caused by a takeover of central power. And the Vendeans in France, the Tambov Greens in Russia, and the Tibetans in China show us another common pattern: regional rebels and secessionists failing miserably, getting themselves killed, and bringing down the wrath of Hell upon their kith and kin.

That last clause is worth pondering for anyone who truly wants to do right by ordinary whites. Leaders who can start a civil war, but cannot end it on their own terms, condemn their people to the hardships of endless fighting or brutal reconquest and suppression. No wonder it is so hard to get even sympathetic whites interested in the ‘myth of the white ethnostate’. Maybe their racial survival instincts are not so defective after all.

Every naive, self-defeating, and counterproductive plan dreamed up by quixotic conservatives is ultimately dictated by their chivalric fidelity to democracy. Democracy might just stop short of scapegoating ordinary whites as kulaks, and raising up Jews, non-whites etc. to lord it over them, as long as there are no immigrant votebanks to be mobilised by the usual leftist suspects. In the same way, untreated AIDS might just stop short of killing you, as long as you can be 100% sure of permanently quarantining yourself against every other type of disease.

The gerrymander ethnostate model – proposed by John “Yggdrasil” Gardner, whose old writings are still worth a read – never got memed, but it is valuable because it gets to the heart of what white-nats want to achieve by the ethnostate strategy. “Deny votes to immigrants, and the internal constituency for encouraging their arrival pretty much disappears.” Yes, but extending that principle to everyone else means destroying every other leftist constituency as well, until you end up with a state that has no incentive to cannibalise its most productive and socially-stable subjects.

Other white nationalists profess to despise democracy (perhaps out of fashy nostalgia, perhaps on the principle that crisis requires leadership). But the underlying logic of their ideas seems to be consistent with the morbid conservative attachment to it. They simply cannot imagine a Western state that has no use for leftist votebanks, and that stands to the Europeans as the Russian empire stood to the Russians or the Chinese empire to the Han Chinese. They take the state of racial relations in democracy – most of which looked very different a few hundred years ago – and trace it back to evolutionary patterns dating to the last Ice Age, although this is much less parsimonious than simply abandoning the myth that democratic state policy is driven by any sort of mass popular tendency.

And so, having failed to free their minds from the state religion, they hobble their own attempts to come up with a resistance strategy. If the only choices are to repeat the American Civil War as farce, to witch-hunt every racially-impure individual and repatriate them at public expense, or to attempt the defence of a gerrymandered state against the Alinskyite devilry of progressives, then most people are just going to throw up their hands and resign themselves to the existing multi-racial anti-white mess.

The Unmoving Movement

Perhaps, then, it’s all for the best that white nationalism is too chronically dysfunctional to start a civil war in a sandpit.

I don’t want to dwell on the actions of individuals, but we all know the general state of the Movement. Super secret fraternal organisations charging up to $10,000 for membership. Leaders who talk about racial loyalty, but can’t keep their hands off the wives and girlfriends of their right-hand comrades. Fanatical, witch-hunting anti-Semites who turn out to be married to Jews. So much backstabbing, doxing, baseless accusation, and real pathological behaviour that no-one in the Movement seems to trust anyone else at all. What an auspicious start for a new racially-harmonious ruling elite that will never again screw over its own people once they have brought it to power.

’Movement critics’ like Harold Covington are insightful, but should be read at arm’s length because they are usually no exception to the pathologies they expose in others
’Movement critics’ like Harold Covington are insightful, but should be read at arm’s length because they are usually no exception to the pathologies they expose in others

I can’t vouch for all of its claims (several of which are disputed), but a look at the Brief History of the White Nationalist Movement should suffice to show that most of these patterns of dysfunction date back to its very beginnings. As one despairing white-nat activist wrote some twenty years ago, “every attempt we make to create a resistance movement ends, without fail, in catastrophe, shame, grotesque slapstick and madness.”

In the early days of the Alt-Right, all of this seemed rather muted (although much of it was still going on behind the scenes), and it looked as if a new generation of white-nat leaders had learned from all those decades of failure. But the main innovation of Alt-Right leaders was to suppress the dogmas of white nationalism – while retaining the motive force of white self-defence – and build alliances with other groups, like libertarians and paleoconservatives, who would normally be dismissed by white-nats in the most viciously uncharitable terms.

Once the rise of Trump lulled them into the delusion that the White Awakening was at hand, the white-nats decided to drop the taqiyyah and ‘become who they are’. This meant re-embracing most of the ‘WN 1.0’ strategic playbook, and either driving away the other ideologies or reducing them to satellites around their own suncross. And so, “catastrophe, shame, grotesque slapstick and madness” came roaring back to the fore, and did much of the work of destroying the Alt-Right before state repression even got started.

But the Movement has its own explanations for failure, which all involve blaming individuals while salvaging ideological dogmas. Bad optics! Low human quality! Traitors, informants, saboteurs! Lord knows I’ve trumpeted some of these slogans just as loud as anyone else, but the coping has to stop.

“Traitors, informants and saboteurs” has some reality behind it, as everyone knows that white-nat organisations are heavily infiltrated. But we might flip this on its head, and say that as this infiltration has been present since the beginning, any one of the dogmas and tactics built up by the Movement over the last seventy years could be some sort of bad-faith psyop. This isn’t my own position, as I’m more inclined to blame sincere ideological delusion. But either way, the white-nat strategic playbook more or less functions as a black ops entrapment manual: those who follow it will actively seek out legal trouble, ring up the media every time they so much as organise a treehouse club, etc. etc.

As for “low human quality” and “bad optics”, they are two sides of the same coin: the Movement consistently looks bad, thus it attracts bad people, so good people are pushed out, hence it ends up looking even worse, and so on and so on. What is never explained is why dissidents should stoop to the tricks of salesmanship to polish this dung and pass it off as gold to unsuspecting ‘high-quality’ buyers. Sometimes we need to extract gold from dung – i.e. media propaganda, dissident autistry, etc. – but this should not require the sheer level of cognitive dissidence that it takes to pretend that seven decades of white nationalist failure and pathology represents some sort of teething trouble.

Here’s why the real problem is one of substance. White nationalism is nothing more or less than an ideology of tribal solidarity – which it locates in biological race, and to which it is willing to sacrifice or subordinate everything else in life. And yet, all of its pathologies result from its total inability to generate more than a trace amount of tribal solidarity from race. Racial feeling may drive people into white nationalism, but it cannot bind them together once they get there.

Hence the need to rely for unity on leader-worship, signal-spiralling, echo-chambering, witch-hunting, grifting, power-lust, slick salesmanship, and a mix of dogmatic credulity and personal paranoia – in short, all the standard trade-tricks of a cult, in this case a democratic activist cult. The unsightly dynamics of this cult are thinly overlaid by the language of the racial tribe (so that, for example, those who question its dogmas and leaders are accused of being ‘Jews’ instead of ‘splitters’), lest too many people start wondering whether the whole thing has anything to do with racial survival at all.

No-one can fault WN for having failed to take off and seize power like some leftist astroturf movement. But it has had more than enough time to create some sort of embryonic form of its ideal organic racial community. And if every attempt to do so has not only failed, but ended up producing the social equivalent of toxic waste, then why keep blaming the ingredients and the presentation instead of the recipe?

It’s not too much to ask self-appointed physicians to heal themselves before handing them a hospital full of patients. For example, when Jordan Peterson tells outright lies in public and then ends up in rehab for his happy-pill addiction, we can reasonably conclude that his ‘maps of meaning’ and ‘rules for life’ cannot tell us how to live in truth or conquer depression. What is missing from white nationalist maps of meaning and rules for life?

The Glorious Brown Banner of Keithist-Salterist Theory

To answer this question, we must go to the core principle of white nationalist ideology. It may surprise you to learn that this principle has nothing to do with IQ tests, Aryan superiority, the Faustian spirit, etc. In theory, it would stand intact even if white Europeans were proved to be the dullest and most defective branch of humanity.

It is simply this: all races function as extended families, and thou shalt treat thy race as thy extended family.

When the full implications of this idea are extended into society, culture, history, etc., it begins to look like a sort of ‘racial Marxism’ in which the theme of class struggle is replaced by the struggle of races to further their extended kinship interests. But one difference is that most white nationalists, unlike Marxists, do not like to make a big song and dance about the thinkers who hit upon their doctrine. It is supposed to be ‘natural’ to everyone – albeit relatively weak in Europeans, due to our evolved psychology – and to carve it in holy writ would, I suspect, open it up to too much questioning.

Sir Arthur Keith and Dr. Frank Salter
Sir Arthur Keith and Dr. Frank Salter

All the same, some have tried. Gardner/Yggdrasil evidently thought the Movement needed its Marx, and traced the core idea behind it to the Scottish anthropologist Sir Arthur Keith. Keith belonged to the group-evolutionist branch of Darwinism, and the main theme of his Evolution and Ethics is the ‘dual code’ by which a tribe maintains a moral double standard: friendship, honesty and altruism for the ingroup, and enmity, deception and self-interest to the outgroup.

But just as white nationalism only gets halfway to the dual code, Keith only gets halfway to the white nationalist concept of race. He speaks of the tribe or nation as a “corporate body”, armed with its “stock of genes”, protecting them against dissipation by practicing enmity against other tribes. But he seems to make little distinction between the tribe and the state that leads it (e.g. “in a tribal organisation…service to tribe or state predominates over all self-seeking”), and he accepts the role of state power in the forging of a tribe (e.g. “the methods employed by the Nazi leaders to secure tribal unity in Germany [were] brutal compulsion, bloody force, and the concentration camp”).

Keith was writing almost a hundred years ago, during the era of nationalist war. Unlike him, modern white-nats must make sense of a world in which the state has turned against the nation. Like other conservatives (e.g. George Gilder on marriage and feminism) they take their stand on an appeal to human nature, which can be blocked or twisted by state power but does not depend on it. They seek to prove that the tribal bond and the dual code are created spontaneously – out of pure biological kinship – and then build up a superstructure of state power and religious culture on the terms of the tribe (albeit sometimes by recycling foreign material).

For this sort of thing, we can go to Frank Salter’s book On Genetic Interests. Although Salter is a ‘universal nationalist’, not a white nationalist, his theory supplies the other half of the white-nat theoretical kernel.

The basic idea is that the ultimate end of life is not self-interest, but genetic interest, i.e. the self-propagation of distinct genes according to natural selection. Because the alleles, i.e. gene variants, possessed by (possessing?) an individual are also found to some degree in his brothers, sisters, parents, cousins etc., genetic interest can rationalise altruism and self-sacrifice for the sake of immediate kin. It can also justify wider altruism and self-sacrifice, towards strangers, but only those who are relatively closely related in genetic terms. Thus we arrive at the concept of ethnic genetic interest – a form of dual-code tribalism that does not, at least in principle, depend on the hand of state power.

Salter tramps back and forth over the line between explanation of real human behaviour, and abstract calculation of theoretically ‘adaptive’ behaviours from a genetic point of view. Some of what he says about close-family altruism is not exactly realistic (e.g., quoting W.D. Hamilton, “it is adaptive to give one’s life for two siblings or eight cousins, but not for fewer”), and much of what he says about ethnic altruism comes across as downright ridiculous (e.g. “it would appear to be more adaptive for an Englishman to risk life or property resisting the immigration of two Bantu immigrants to England than his taking the same risk to rescue one of his own children from drowning”).

Several HBD writers (and one heretical white-nat splitter, who was swiftly ousted from the cult) have argued that Salter is wrong, mostly on the grounds that the rationale for kin-based altruism drops off a cliff once you get beyond first cousins. To agree with them, at least on this point, is simple common sense. ‘Adaptiveness’ be damned, a sane Englishman does not leave his child to drown in order to prevent a boatful of Bantus from landing on an island of eighty thousand square miles, unless perhaps a Salterist ideologue is standing on the shore with a rifle levelled at his head.

But once this point is taken on board, I don’t see any need to deny the basic proposition that a race is a type of extended family, and that tribalism and nationalism are states of mind in which the analogy of family and race is consciously acted upon.

The most obvious objection to Salter is that there are more things in kinship than are theorised in his philosophy. Families would lack all cohesion without shared living arrangements and some degree of parental authority over children. In the same way, tribes and nations cannot function without shared language, common living space, cultural heritage, etc., as well as some sort of higher authority to hold them together.

But white nationalists are happy to admit this. They tend to view racial identity as a kernel of biological kinship, surrounded by a protective shell of cultural commonalities. That is why they do not (in theory) want to disown the more racially-admixed parts of southern Europe, or embrace non-Western peoples who may be biologically related to whites. And as for the higher authority that is needed to make collective decisions, they believe that the Movement is just such an authority-in-waiting, growing up out of the racial core to crack open a desiccated state that has lost its vital connection to the nation.

This means that the white nationalist concept of extended kinship can stand up to most of the knocks that would pulverise the pure Salterist theory. All very well. But what I want to know is why this kinship principle has never managed to bind Europeans together against a state that is displacing them in favour of aliens.

The answer should be obvious.

Salter’s calculations notwithstanding, the motive force of family-feeling becomes weaker and weaker the further it extends beyond the immediate kin group. Perhaps it can motivate ethnic altruism if it is allowed (or, more likely, encouraged) to radiate out to it without encountering too many obstructions. But no-one truly motivated by family-feeling will defend the extended kin group when this is likely to bring about the harassment of parents, the impoverishment of children, the straining of relations with siblings, and the hobbling of one’s ability to find a partner and reproduce.

Under the conditions that prevail in the modern West (which are hardly the worst heights of totalitarian repression), extended kinship is not just driven underground. It is turned back on itself, as loyalty to immediate family interests now motivates the disownment of the extended kinship group.

The tendency of young white-nat converts to burn out in edgy transgression (or turn into grifters around middle age) is also linked to the clash of family responsibilities and racial loyalty.
The tendency of young white-nat converts to burn out in edgy transgression (or turn into grifters around middle age) is also linked to the clash of family responsibilities and racial loyalty.

This, I think, is the ultimate reason why the Movement never gets moving. The social force that is supposed to drive it in theory cannot really do so in practice, yet it is shackled to it by its own dogma and incapable of straying too far towards anything else. When the umpteenth failure takes place, the reason is (correctly) identified as a lack of true faith in the dogma, and so the shackles are tightened up. The situation is comparable to that of conservatives who expect ‘market forces’ to promote libertarian ethics, bourgeois morality, etc., yet fail to see that the profit motive has been harmonised with big government and so constantly end up being played for suckers by Woke Capital.

It would be easy enough for a white nationalist to get rid of this problem in theory – although certainly not in practice – by shoehorning it back into a Salterist framework. He might say, for instance, that the modern anti-white imperial state is an unnatural abomination, which only exists because Jewish or non-white ethnic genetic interests have hijacked the natural organic nationalist state. The advantage of this approach is that it opens up a whole new can of worms, which can distract us from the sheer weakness and vulnerability of extended kinship as a motive force.

But when we stay on this topic, we begin to see the narrowness of a worldview in which this motive force is the sole essential component of a nation. No doubt a sense of kinship (based on biology, but also culture, language, etc.) is one essential component. But if there were no others, then why would any nation ever revolt against foreign rule, unless backed against the wall by genocide? All that is needed to dam up and turn back the nepotistic motive is a system of reward and punishment that can thrust down some families, and raise up others, according to whether they defend or disown the extended kin group.

In other words, all that is needed is state power. White nationalists tend to reduce the state to a tool of competing racial interests, just as Marxists reduce it to a tool of competing class interests. Note that both of these rival theories take a democratic line, in which the state is nothing but a hollow vessel to be filled by this or that social substance. Modern Westerners who have watched the permanent state grow ever larger, always for the sake of some temporary social need, should have learned to discard this reasoning and admit that state power has its own autonomous agenda.

That’s not to say that social forces are irrelevant to it. The book Nations by Azar Gat piles up countless historical examples of ‘political ethnicity’ – i.e. the tendency of most states, including universalist empires, to promote the dominance of a core ethnic group. This shows the importance of extended kinship to the maintenance of state power.

On the other hand, what are we to make of the perennial love affair between the state and the infidel janissary, the foreign mercenary, the court Jew – all favoured by power precisely because they are alien to the core ethnic group? Or the phenomenon of stranger-kingship, in which the authorities in a community voluntarily turn over their government to a foreign dynasty? Or, most importantly, the ‘High-Low alliance against the Middle’ – theorised by Bertrand de Jouvenel in On Power – in which, for example, a French monarch might scheme to raise up the lower classes against the aristocracy, despite the fact that his extended kin-group interests would presumably stand with the latter?

Quite clearly, state power overlaps with extended kinship, but cannot be reduced to it as per Hitler’s analogy of the ‘vessel’ and its ‘contents’. Rulers are after power, order, loyalty, etc., and extended kinship is just one more tool to be used to these ends. Like any social force, its malleability has definite limits, but it tends to be the subordinate partner in any alliance with the state. For example, during the era of nationalist wars, the state championed the nation but hardly furthered its genetic interests by herding the flower of its youth to slaughter.

Another collective force that overlaps more closely with state power is religious authority – in modern parlance, ‘ideological hegemony’, not to be confused with popular culture. Again, religious doctrines usually propagate themselves through tribes and nations, but only by a great deal of hand-waving can the one thing be reduced to the other. (The Movement runs a cottage industry in fake religions devised for racial purposes – e.g. Cosmotheism, Creativity, and now Apollonism – but the fact that none of them have proved more inspiring than Salter’s boring evo-psych wonkery should have taught it to take the religious quest for truth a bit more seriously.)

Ideally, all three of these collective forces – state power, religious authority, and extended kinship – should go into the making of the ‘tribal’ consciousness that binds a ruling elite to its people. In practice, we might say (as a vague rule of thumb) that it might be done by any two in combination, but not by any one in isolation.

That is to say: power and kinship might carve out a nation under a universalist religious authority; religion and kinship might hold a nation together in a hostile or indifferent state; and a state backed up by a religion might forge a new nation out of distinct kinship groups. But the ramshackle imperium is the product of state power alone; the deracinated cult, the product of religious authority alone; and the unconscious biological race, the product of extended kinship alone.

And this brings us back to the futility of the Movement’s quest to rally the European race against its enemies.

White-nats know that this race has hitched itself to some strange wagons in the past: the universalist religion of Christianity, the world-conquering projects of imperialism, and the democratic religion that has lately turned against it. They want to smooth the path to a future harmony of race, religion and power, by exalting the race as paramount, and demanding a religion and a state that depend on its substance and exist to serve its will.

But they are just throwing up impassable barriers. In an era of civilisational empires, no power worth the name will commit suicide by confining itself to the defence of an ethnic hobbit-shire. Nor will any religion worth the name throw away its claims to universal truth, and become a degraded mouthpiece for the ‘Aryan’ or ‘Faustian’ mindset.

So the race is left to fend for itself. Worse – it remains locked in the dungeon of its enemy. The reason why the Movement misunderstands religious authority and political power is that it can only look at these things through the prism of democratic belief. It recycles all its core ideals from democracy, shapes them around voting, activism and agitprop, and seeks to realise them in a type of small and limited state that is no longer viable except as a satrapy of the democratic empire.

This is what makes it a low-church conservative ideology, not a truly dissident one. And if Europeans never manage to get rid of the democratic religion that hates them, the conservatives will be to blame. As long as the Dissident Right remains predominantly white nationalist, it will be ‘dissident’ in name only, and all the fruits of its toil will be harvested by the hostile powers of conservatism and democracy.

White Nationalism as a Degenerate Fertility Cult

But before it reduced itself to an illicit annex of the con party, the Alt-Right was in the larpy and haphazard beginnings of a project to recover a non-democratic worldview. This involved reading prewar European reactionary authors – such as Oswald Spengler and Julius Evola – who were basically sympathetic to the fascist cause, but warned against its contamination by democratic ideology. No-one familiar with that line of thought will find anything surprising in my own views on the Movement.

For a good look across the gap between Spengler and Salter, you can read this classic essay by Greg Johnson. On this occasion, Evola has a bit more relevance. Here’s his negative verdict on the equation of state and people in Men Among The Ruins:

“[E]very true political unity appears as the embodiment of an idea and a power, thus distinguishing itself from every naturalistic association or ‘natural right’, and also from every societal aggregation determined by mere social, economic, biological, utilitarian, or eudemonistic factors.

The State is not the expression of ‘society’. The…’social’ or ‘communal’ view of the state is the index of a regression and naturalistic involution. … The political domain is characterised by hierarchical, heroic, ideal, anti-hedonistic, and to a degree, even anti-eudemonistic values that set it apart from the order of naturalistic and vegetative life. … Authentic political ends are mostly autonomous ones (i.e. not derived from something else): they are connected to ideas and interests different from those of peaceful living, pure economics, and physical well-being, pointing to a higher dimension of life and a separate order of dignity.

Better Evola’s monocle than Salter’s blinkers
Better Evola’s monocle than Salter’s blinkers

The problem with this sort of thing is that it expresses the pre-democratic viewpoint in the most quixotic language imaginable. Evola’s view of the state seems to have no relevance at all to modern politics, and relates only at an ideal level to the politics of premodern states.

What rings true in Evola is his uncompromising view that democracy and activism are degenerate. But what’s the alternative? To wear the monocle of the Magic Baron, meditating on mountaintops while the West sinks into the abyss, because we are too pure to rally around anything less than the second coming of Barbarossa? Surely any sensible person will be a white nationalist today, and perhaps aim to build a world in which the ‘higher dimension of life’ actually means something to most people – but only after the pressing political battles have been won by any means necessary.

A hundred years ago, this intuition was probably right (although it still didn’t turn out well). Today, when fascism is much more degenerate and conservative and much less likely to gain power, it is a red herring. If anything, the white-nat activist is more impractical than the worst sort of Evolian fantasist, who can at least say that his larping does not actively reinforce the regime he professes to despise.

Instead of speaking in value judgements, and harking back to ideals, we might say that state power is dominant and active while popular forces are subordinate and passive. That is to say: the state is ‘higher’ than the people not necessarily because it is nobler, more sublime, more dignified, etc., but simply in the sense that the state tells the people what to do. And religious authority, for its part, tells both the state and the people what to think. This still holds true in the modern West, under an ‘idea and a power’ that worships the people while controlling and conditioning them more than ever.

To say that the people are subordinate and passive does not mean that they have no powers of resistance, that they can do nothing without higher direction, etc. But we should disillusion ourselves on what we can and cannot expect from them in a regime like the present one, in which no true rival power centre or religious locus exists.

One modern example of racial self-preservation by the people is the ‘white flight’ from communities colonised by non-white votebanks. Although this is often forced by violence, it sometimes seems to involve a sort of herd instinct, by which whites collectively sense the impending fall of a neighbourhood and leave before they are driven out. With the help of euphemisms about ‘good schools’, ‘nice areas’, etc., devised spontaneously and perhaps unconsciously, they find their way to other communities full of people like them where they can raise their children in peace.

The problem is that most people in these communities remain true-believing multiculturalists. “If only we could awaken their unconscious racial survival instincts,” say the white nationalists, “we could get them to fight.” But those instincts are working just fine. They cannot fight and win against the state, so they naturally choose to avoid the sharp end of its power, while chanting (and consciously believing) the mantras of its religion. And another thing that benefits their survival is their willingness to ruthlessly ostracise any crowd of Nazi idiots that turns up on their doorsteps.

It is in such ways that the extended kinship group preserves itself in hard times: by keeping its head down, turning in on itself, paying lip service while quietly getting on with life, and generally flowing like water around the edifice of the hostile state (and, perhaps, gradually eroding it). If your first thought is to condemn this behaviour as cowardly, myopic, unnatural, then perhaps we need to go back to Evola:

The State is under the masculine aegis, while ‘society’ and by extension the people…are under the feminine aegis. The…gap between the political idea of State and the physical idea of ‘society’ is found again in the opposition that exists between State and nation. The notions of nation, fatherland and people, despite their romantic and idealistic halo, essentially belong to the naturalistic and biological plane and not the political one; they lead back to the ‘maternal’ and physical dimension of a given collectivity. … Thus, it has rightfully been suggested…that ‘men’ uphold the idea of State, while feminine natures, which are spiritually matriarchal, side instead with ‘fatherland’, ‘nation’ and ‘people’.”

Again, it looks like a bushel of Jungian nonsense, but there’s a light of practical truth underneath it. No less an activist than Hitler said that “the people in their overwhelming majority” are “feminine by nature and attitude”. If the Movement truly understood this, it would stop marching around the formless white herd and barking orders like some demented old army major, only to end up reviling it when it fails to snap to attention and fight as a racial army.

It is also helpful to know that white nationalism – far more than fascism – is predominantly feminine in spirit, though overwhelmingly masculine in body. Above all it is a fertility cult, and when it tries to express its highest ideals, it turns to matriarchal imagery (e.g. “we must preserve the existence of our people and a future for white children, because the beauty of the white Aryan woman must not perish from the earth”). Its reduction of nationhood to an outgrowth of genetics is just an extension of the democratic attitude to immediate family, in which female-centred biology takes precedence over male-centred concepts like wedlock, legitimacy, and patriarchy.

Now, feminine in this sense does not mean ‘bad’, ‘wrong’, ‘ghey’, or ‘irrelevant to men’, but it’s always best to avoid confusing it with masculine. A viable power struggle, and the establishment of an independent state, could produce ambition, loyalty, and heroism. An absolute commitment to truth and virtue could produce asceticism, martyrdom, and culture-creation. But we cannot expect any amount of agitprop based on ‘kinship’, ‘survival’, and ‘self-interest’ to produce political or religious results. Anyone truly motivated by those things is probably keeping his head down, making money, and raising a brood of kids while blending in with the beliefs and customs of his neighbours.

The fact that some people are deluded as to their own motivations doesn’t contradict this at all. White-nats certainly try to build great inspiring myths out of the dreary, relativistic, amoral and irrationalist sludge of Keithist-Salterist theory. But I suspect that those who devote their lives to the Movement are either (a) taking a doomed gamble on power, (b) trying to squeeze a commitment to truth through a low and narrow aperture, or (c) misdirecting their desire for a kin group onto the Movement in much the same way that a wanker faps to images on a porn site.

All of these types – the political schemers, the metapoliticians, and the rank-and-file activists – would do better to move on from the Movement, and stop suffering its dogmas to drag down their efforts towards gaining power, seeking the truth, and living successful lives. This would also make it easier for the Movement to become what it really is – a sub-political, aesthetically-based racial fertility cult, aimed at selling a vision of hearth, home, and tow-headed children to twentysomething white women while playing cat and mouse with the democratic state religion.

Obviously, such a fertility cult could never win a war of imperialist states and universalist religions. And there’s no guarantee that the men who move beyond it would be able to come up with anything else that can. But if the short, promising, tragic history of the early Alt-Right has taught us anything, it’s that Western dissidence thrives as a hundred distinct flowers, and dies when it is calficied into the dogmatic and obsessive Movement based on its lowest common denominator.

Let’s give the devil his due, though. The Movement may have failed to take power. It may contributed nothing at all to the survival and flourishing of whites. But when we judge it by the ordinary criteria of a cult – self-propagation and self-preservation – it looks about as successful as anything on the fringes can be. It took over the Alt-Right, it continues to dominate the Dissident Right, and it may well end up galvanising the zombie of high-church conservatism for another twenty or thirty years. Brett Stevens’ long rambling critique didn’t warn off its followers ten years ago and doubtless nor will mine.

What’s the secret of its appeal? Surely not the romantic glamour of a worldview in which all politics, religion and culture are reduced to the blind strivings of the racial will-to-life. And probably not just a desperate reaction to the non-white colonisation of the West, given that the Movement has never done anything to stop this.

The truth is that white nationalism has what might be called a memetic evolutionary strategy. This allows it to propagate its dogmas negatively – i.e. by pushing them as an explanation for enemy behaviour – without having to convert people to a positive statement of the Keithist-Salterist worldview. The smartest way to sell hokey cult voodoo is not on its own merits, but as an antidote to someone else’s hokey cult voodoo.

White nationalism may be a weak ideology, but this frame around it is so strong and semi-truthful that it demands a whole post to itself. And the specific details, which have gone undiscussed in this post, will have to wait until that one. Let’s just say in advance that it has something to do with the Jews.

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  1. LOL!! As if there is N E point reading past the 1’st sentence: “thanks to the political flailing of Donald Trump” =)) The title IMPLIES it is taking a rational approach, like ‘OF COURSE whites should B allowed 2 have their own nations, same as jooz & blax & Asians & others have their own nations, but no… it’s just ((($hill-Tard))) nosense trying 2 paint whites who have the will 2 live as something ‘evil’. Don’t even need 2 read another word past the 1’st sentence 2 know everything that follows! Please post some real articles rather than the same old (((K!LLW!TEY!))) krap, thanx =)

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  2. Rational says:


    This is a very strange article. In principle, there is nothing wrong with white nationalism. The reason white people are not able to get their “representatives” to represent them in the govt. (and ban immigration, like most people want) is because of corruption—the Judaists and other special interest groups have hijacked the politicians and force them to engage in human trafficking (3rd world immigration). They are dogs for their Jewish masters, kneeling on all fours:


    Also, the democrats always steal elections, like they did in 2020. The US is the world’s most corrupt and criminal nation.

    Eg. See:

    I think the author is just a liberal trying to do some propaganda.

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  3. Thomm says:

    No discussion of race/HBD is complete without a deep examination of the unusually high variance in the quality of whites, which is revealed with research that I have posted here.

    The white genome has a special feature that ensures that all undesirable traits fall into a small fraction of the population (estimated at 10-20%), and the remaining 80-90% of us this remain fully free of flaws.

    This creates a bi-modal distribution of white ‘quality’. Hence, white quality is not even a continuum, but rather a functional race of exceptional people, daylight in between, and a defective subrace where 10-20% reside. This subrace effectively functions as a wastebasket into which unwanted genetic waste is dumped, for efficient removal from our genome.

    The quality of the parents has no bearing on whether their offspring will be functional or a member of this ‘wastebasket’ subrace. Poor, uneducated white parents still produce functional offspring 80-90% of the time, while even the most impressive parents produce an offspring designed for wastebasket purposes 10-20% of the time. In that way, the white genome is very egalitarian as far as which parents are going to bear the misfortune of a boy that becomes a WN fag, or a girl that becomes a radical feminist.

    Since this defective subrace is not meant to reproduce, it entirely explains why the men become White Trashionalists, while the women become the fat bluehaired feminists. Both of these groups are equal in number, and neither has a significant presence of people from the other gender.

    More proof :


    In the 2020 election, we saw that at least 54% of white women voted for Trump and downticket GOP candidates. Yet the White Trashionalist community has virtually zero women in it, aside from a couple of elderly fag hags (Rosie and Alden, in the case of this website). The WN community obviously has nothing to do with the GOP or support of President Trump.

    How can there be no women? Could it have something to do with the fact that 40%+ of WNs openly and proudly say that :

    i) They would rather have sex with a white man than a black woman, since racial loyalty trumps sexual orientation, and producing no baby is better than producing a mulatto baby.
    ii) They have no problem with transgenderism, since the race of the person did not change, so nothing meaningfully changed about their suitability as a sexual partner.

    This pattern becomes evident from viewing the comments on any WN-heavy website. The overwhelming homosexuality of the WN community is just one of the reasons that the ideology will never be able to recruit heterosexuals.

    Politics is a circle, and that is why WNs and antifags freely cross over, given the almost total ideological similarities between the two. In fact, participating in antifa-type activities gives WN wiggers rare access to the females of their defective subrace. Hence, when the police round up the degenerates, the photos of arrestees looks like this :

    Notice how defective they look, from their faces alone. They are too far removed from the functional white race to be considered members of the same race. Once again, politics is a circle, and WNs and antifags freely cross over into each others’ ranks (see : Andrew Anglin). The two should not even be distinguished, for reasons described above.

    PostScript : As this is a 140 IQ topic that discusses 70-IQ subjects, the only response these 70-IQ WN wiggers have to my profound and accurate analysis is to accuse me of being a ‘South Asian’, which is false as there is zero proof, and even Ron Unz admitted that he made that up just to test if the WNs on this site will believe anything (as is the true purpose of this website). Thus, any WN who claims that is just broadcasting how much they love to believe everything that a Media Jew tells them.

  4. No surprise that this comes from Colin Liddell’s rubbish heap.

  5. Catdog says:

    Whiny, waste of time article.

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  6. Anon[164] • Disclaimer says:

    This rambling article is very odd. I did read the entire post, and now that I’m finished it’s clear that I unfortunately just wasted ten minutes.

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  7. Trajan92 says:

    An incomprehensible word salad. I can be sure that ANY movement will not find guidance in overwrought philosophy major dropout clap trap like this. There’s a reason Alexander cut the Gordian Knot

  8. W says:
    @Dood McMan

    This looks like your last comment

    No point reading past the first 4 words! “The virus is real.” = LOL!! No, everybody knows ‘corona’ is just regular seasonal colds & flus (((Rebranded))) as excuse 2 ruin white nations & others so the (((bank$ters))) can $teal the wreckage easier. I woldn’t B surprised if the article goes around blaming China 4 everythign tha jooz do on top of this =))

    Reading your trolling is like watching a 400 lb naked women dance.

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  9. I second that there is nothing wrong with white nationalism……the problem is organized jewry.

    I got pissed early on when the author claimed that WN’s “caused the death of others” at C’ville……this is the bullshit jew narrative. One obese SJW died of a heart attack as a young kid tried to get away from a crew of Antifa scum that surely would have killed him….and the poor bastard sits in jail for 400 years.

    Then the author claims that Hitler is irredeemable….when in fact current events have proved that he was right all along.

    The right doesn’t push race……the left pushes race. The left has turned our once workable culture into a racial spoils system with whites on the BOTTOM. Whites are being FORCED to become racially aware or face extermination.

    Yes, Matt Heimbach was a slob. We can agree on that.

    White nationalism is a normal, sane, and logical movement that is hamstrung because of the influence of organized jewry.

    Abstract theories regarding the formation of government, the ethics of rulership, foundational principles, etc., posit a group that has agency……when our innocent old people aren’t even allowed to protest a stolen election without landing in jail.

    We have no voice. We have no representation. The people who should stick up for us are bought off by the jews.

    We are not going to vote our way out of this.

  10. Anonymous[274] • Disclaimer says:

    God, such a long, rambling article — and you said nothing. What you should have done was talk about the actual ideological failures of white nationalism — namely its singular pillar, the crime rate. The crime rate has been on a 30 year downwrd trend — a few bumps in the road like the Floyd murder wave nonwithstanding — as the countrt gets browner. White nationalism’s sole argument was that America would get more violent — but it’s getting less.

    So white nationalism is a true ideological failure, and this is why it has faltered. Your own predictions failed you, now you can have no faith in yourselves. Now you’re in damage control mode. Can’t wait to see the delicuous replies to this comment.

  11. We need to disenfranticate the stanifranaticism of the qua Marxist priesthood establishment! Then we inculcate the in subordinate intellectual pancake sans lure sorted intergalactic jambalaya!!
    Only then can the rigor mortis of the fuzzdoodleydoo be integrated and extricate from the defrosted thrombosis of the ignatz,I think. The pope is a fag.

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  12. Gigachad says:

    Well, for all that text, do you have an actual solution? Not only have you criticized the conservative movement, but also every component of the WN movement. Are white people just doomed, by your estimation?

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  13. Exile says:

    The author claims he hasn’t followed the recent dissident right scene closely – why bother reading his opinion on it?

    His version of White Nationalism is a “just-so” straw man he can easily knock down – “entirely obsessed” with race, “fertility cult,” etc…

    “Today when fascism is so much more degenerate and conservative” ???? What contemporary fascism is he referring to?

    The author doesn’t sound like someone who was ever part of the organic Alt-Right – this reads like an outsider trying to ape familiarity with modern American dissident right ideas.

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  14. Whats wrong with White Nationalism? Simple…. Not a damn thing.

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  15. @Rational

    And sugar is America’s silent killer. You forgot that.

  16. Anonymous[124] • Disclaimer says:

    The first time, they brought Nazi larpers and violent street-fighters, and caused the deaths of others

    Is Jimmy talking about the Battle of Sacramento, wherein permit-obtaining whites got openly attacked by antifa goons while cops did nothing…whites sending 9 douchenozzles to the hospital?

    Or is he talking about Charlottesville, where cops pushed permit-holding peaceful protesters into violent antifa thugs, resulting in the death of an obese vaginate due to a visit to Heart Attack City:

    Whites act like cowards, bringing cookies and milk to nuke fights.

    We’re in a 50+ year culture war, one in which “good Christians” do jacksquat while the USA is ruined. Like Trump, they think whining online does something.

    They think Jesus was a pussy, and eating stool a noble profession.

    In any war you have to be willing to (1) fight and (2) take losses and keep going. Conservatives have done neither for half a century. Worse, they let anyone who fights FOR them be punished-maligned-fired-jailed-ruined with impunity. What sane person continues to support Losers?

    No wonder so many young boys want to be gay-trans-furrykin: anything but their cucked fathers!

    Whites let themselves be shamed into cowardice. They talk, hesitate, do jackshit, and want to be perfect Mama’s Boys while all that they SAY they value is destroyed. Meanwhile, the Left acts, kicks ass, and changes the culture.

    The Left is embodied by Biden. He signs endless “executive orders,” passes endless bills, and gets things done.

    The Right is epitomized by McConnell, Graham, and Gowdy: talk-talk-talk do-nothing manginas who diddle while Rome burns.

  17. Conscious racial absolutism (“nationalism”) was a new ideology, as was libertarianism (and, in fact, capitalism). Despite the memes of their adherents, they are not inevitable and prehistoric consequences of nature.

    The correct answer to popular anti-white ideas is stereotypes. This is really the old Lindy system. Nations have survived differences even under multicultural empires. Whites do not need to join a nationalist sect; they just need to remember how to make fun of other people.

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
  18. Anon[362] • Disclaimer says:

    Wow… this article is like Ron Unz’s stuff… long and pointless. WTF is the author trying to say in this mass of words… Ron says White Nationalism failed and we should embrace mass immigration and Latino culture I guess… It is hard to tell what Unz is about usually. He does caste a good deal of dung on his own people… da jews. But after that it gets into his own navel gazing mostly. See Covid and blow back theory. But this article…

  19. Anonymous[124] • Disclaimer says:

    there is nothing wrong with white nationalism

    Yet whites won’t fight for it.

    The reason white people are not able to get their “representatives” to represent them in the govt…is because Judaists and other special interest groups have hijacked the politicians

    Jews are just 2% of the population.

    And women are 50+% of the population.

    In both cases, conservative men let both groups ream them, making excuses for their cowardice.

    The problem isn’t Juden shekels or feminist vagpower. The problem is that Western males are pussies who no longer fight for anything. They just whine like little girls.

    They are dogs for their Jewish masters, kneeling on all fours

    Western men are, true. Especially Christian ones. They let their women take their kids and assets and futures…as if Martians make divorce laws!

    democrats always steal elections

    Republicans always let them.

    Trumpers are like wimps who bullies steal lunch money from. All they do is whine about what they let happen.

    Republicans hold endless hearings on SMG (social media giants) censorship, etc., changing nothing. Now they expect…after doing zip per the 2020 stolen election…that sane people will bother to vote again in 2022.


  20. geokat62 says:

    Jewish nationalism? No problem!

    White nationalism? 10,000 words trying to convince YT it’s a pipe dream.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
  21. Like a lot of far right articles, this piece blames movements and institutions that were perfectly fine until quite recently. Democracy wasn’t anti-white until the liberal left started undermining it with leftist identity politics in the 1960s. Neither were the Democrats, who were arguably more pro-white than the Republicans in the 1950s.

    The problem is that all nationalist, populist, and right wing movements in the West (from far right nationalism, through to free-speech, low tax libertarianism) have is that they are fighting against the ongoing headwinds of ever increasing affluence coupled with a lack of serious external threats.

    Affluence makes many people soft, sentimental, and overly concerned with trivial but emotionally triggering issues. And when individualistic white people become soft and sentimental they aggressively turn on anyone with staunch, hard -headed opinions, especially if those opinions are both hard-headed and collectivist in nature.

    • Agree: Rosie
    • Replies: @Rosie
  22. I happen to think this is a great article…a starting point…if we could agree?

    But…we can’t…and looks like “we” never will.An interesting word…WILL …

    The “rotting old tree” analogy is spot on…grafting the good is only temporary though…
    and a solution must be found.Maybe the “church conservatism” would work,
    like the constitution should,if we had a decent people, constituting the church?

    “Controversy equalizes fools and wise men,and the fools know it”…

    Truth versus lies…smart vs dumb…young vs. old…rich vs. poor…white vs.colors…

    IT IS… GOOD vs. evil…LIFE vs. death…and…thanks …vs.please.

  23. antibeast says:

    What is wrong with ‘White Nationalism’ is that there is no such thing as a ‘White Nation’ in the USA as the so-called ‘White Americans’ have nothing in common with each other, having descended from the original English settlers and various European immigrants. In many ways, ‘Blacks’ served as the ‘Other’ which united these various ethnic groups together to form ‘White America’. Without ‘Blacks’, ‘White America’ turns into an ethnic smorgasbord of hyphenated Americans such as Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans, German-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans, Anglo-Americans, Jewish-Americans, Polish-Americans, etc. You see this racialized ‘White’ identity being eviscerated today by the massive influx of Latino illegals who speak Spanish and practice Catholicism, having descended from Spanish conquistadores , thus inheriting substantial Spanish or European ancestry. Would people like Rafael Edward Cruz, Marco Antonio Rubio, Enrique Martín Morales, etc. be classified as ‘White’ or ‘Latino’? If people like them are ‘Latino’, then how about people like Mario Matthew Cuomo or Sylvester Enzio Stallone who have ‘Latin’ blood in them Italians? After all, the word “Latino” comes from its root word ‘Latin’ which originated in Italy. Not to mention the fact that the Vatican which is the HQ of the Roman Catholic Church is located in Rome, Italy.

    Instead of ‘White’ vs ‘Black’ during the 20th century, US society will become bifurcated into ‘Anglo’ vs ‘Latino’ in the 21st century. So, instead of ‘White Nationalism, Anglo-Americans should be asserting their ethno-nationalist version of ‘Anglo-America’ which is exactly what the Know-Nothings and KKK did in the 19th and 20th centuries, respectively, against Irish and Catholic immigrants. This time, the Anglo-Americans should be organizing the new KKK against Latino illegals.

    • Troll: Wignat is a slur
    • Replies: @Wignat is a slur
    , @sally
  24. Trajan92 says:

    Have you seen the crime statistics lately, oh wise one?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  25. padre says:

    I couldn’t help but wonder what “white nationalism” could mean! I didn’t know that whites are a nation, I always thought that when you say white people, you are talking about race!

  26. @antibeast

    Lmao, they’re united by being hated by non-whites and Jews. Most American whites are a mix of different European nationalities anyway.

    • Replies: @antibeast
  27. sally says:

    “every attempt create a resistance movement ends in catastrophe, shame, grotesque slapstick and madness.” WN=toxic waste just as does XN=nationalism<=of any kind; produces the same toxic waste? Nation-ism is the armed corporate body (the state) that the oligarch in an area use to control and direct the people and resources for the general security and benefit of the Oligarch. Nationalism depends on armed force, rule of law, and divide and conquer false and misleading propaganda to achieve its purpose.

    Nationalism is the worship of a corporate body; its stock holders and board of directors are the Oligarch. Nationalism is a top down control device. Nationalism channels all natural resources, advanced technologies, and the productive output of labor within its span of control into a gated "benefit pool" accessible mostly by the oligarchs in charge of the gates.

    This pool of national resources is gate controlled. The more powerful, richer, and less visible the Oligarch is, the more that oligarch can dip into the benefit pool. The production of toxic waste is not limited to race issues? Whenever corporate-form-nationalism exist, there is little produced but the oligarch benefit pool (OBP) and the waste produced from the processes that produced the benefit pool.

    Nationalism is a "top down" control device Its elements are military power, rule of oligarch approved law, and oligarch owned propaganda machinery.

    Corporate (the nation state is a corporate organized to be a government). Top down explains it all… there is no bottom up.. issue after issue is presented from the top, controlled from the top, and kept as a narrative, from the top, until the narrative plays out.

    all races function as extended families, and thou shall treat thy race as thy extended family. “In other words, all that is needed is state power. White nationalists tend to reduce the state to a tool ?

    I agree again =>Ideally, all three of these collective forces – state power, religious authority, and extended kinship – should go into the making of the ‘tribal’ consciousness that binds a ruling elite to its people. But the Oligarch organized the nation state, to shape and to mold the underlying people, for the sole benefit of the oligarch.. The nation state provides the oligarch with security, wealth and power..<= pitting one race against another is just one more binary..

    “The State is not the expression of ‘society’. <=that's right, Society is the expression of the state.. and the state is an expression of the Oligarch. Divide to conquer is the overriding technique which address the security concerns of the Oligarch. Oligarch own the politicians; the politicians operate the nation state,; the nation state is the engine that regulates the behaviors of the governed.

  28. Oracle says:

    The tribal behaviour by which we would recognize and protect ourselves has been trained—or even bred—out of us by those who recognize and protect themselves to a far greater degree than we (?) ever did. I guess the answer is to give up and die as our subverters and conquerors wish.

  29. anonymous[108] • Disclaimer says:

    he managed to get something like white nationalism into power when every subsequent attempt has ended in laughable failure.

    There is much deep-seated deceit in this statement.

    On the one hand we have the hardcore white-nationalism of the nazi-kraut mofers, which is still followed by the various white-nut losers of the present. Many such rabid vermin here too, but as their lament shows clearly and surely, it was always destined to fail spectacularly.

    Then we have the soft white-nationalism of the pagan godless soul-diseased “west.” This white-nationalism masks itself with euphemisms like “humanitarianism,” “liberal democracy,” “humanitarian aid,” “freedom,” etc. This continues unabated even today. Plunder the world with a show of “kindness.” There is still much scope to perpetuate this evil for decades to come.

    Many poor idiots around the world fall for this constant whitevil deceit, but it should be getting more difficult to keep up the charade.

  30. anon[243] • Disclaimer says:

    the fault line isn‘t white versus black

    it’s christian versus small hats

    • Replies: @Katrinka
  31. @Anonymous

    Yeah, ‘rivers of blood in twenty years’ was a bit of a hasty prediction. But I’m confident Enoch would have seen the events of summer 2020 in the US as at least the starting shots of the vindication of his speech.

    The problem is that western elites tried to create a civilisation out of their nations, with imported populations that did not and do not want to live with each other that much.

    At some point the kettled groups were going to start fighting, and now there is no up – non-whites now have a faith based position (non-evidence based), that whites are evil. So there are only two outcomes really: fight (war, genocide), flight (exile, ethnic cleansing) [, or reason, but that is incredibly unlikely as humans think a lot less than I gave them credit for in the past].

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  32. anonymous[161] • Disclaimer says:

    author’s apparent core recommendations

    keeping his head down, making money, and raising a brood of kids while blending in with the beliefs and customs of his neighbours

    as if they aren’t coming to totally destroy your attempt at keeping a quiet little normal corner of society

    selling a vision of hearth, home, and tow-headed children to twentysomething white women

    as if women’s brains weren’t mostly commandeered by state & media powers making for female chad-shagging youth contemptuous of family beta men / future divorce pay-pigs

    Western dissidence thrives as a hundred distinct flowers

    stay dis-united there, white man, elites like it that way

    • Agree: Pepe the Frog
  33. …Western dissidence thrives as a hundred distinct flowers, and dies when it is calficied into the dogmatic and obsessive Movement based on its lowest common denominator.

    I agree. I’ve felt this way for many years.

    Forget the image of the fasces: a ‘bound bundle’ is exactly what is created when dissidents organize and can then be pigeonholed.

  34. @Robert Dolan

    Colin Liddell should contribute some of his works, at least to counterbalance what we get told repeatedly here on UR by ever so many authors and commenters:





    • Replies: @Wignat is a slur
  35. onebornfree says: • Website

    Great article. Very insightful and thought provoking, but nonetheless I disagree with the implied conclusions, which although not clearly stated ( maybe they will show up in a follow up piece?), are clear enough for me to see.

    At least he mentions Rothbard in passing 😎, but never gets around to refuting his core conclusion about the true , unalterable nature of all states/ governments (since forever), which presumably means that he disagrees with it.

    To whit:

    “The State is, and always has been, the great single enemy of the human race, its liberty, happiness, and progress.” Murray Rothbard

    Or, to put it another way:

    “Because they are all ultimately funded via both direct and indirect theft [taxes], and counterfeiting [central bank monopolies], all governments are essentially, at their very cores, 100% corrupt criminal scams which cannot be “reformed”or “improved”,simply because of their innate criminal nature.” onebornfree

    It really doesn’t matter whether a “dissident” regards him/herself as “right” or “left”- as long as that “dissident” continues to delude him/herself into believing that the state/government is _not_ their enemy , and, furthermore, that, in the real world, government solutions to our problems actually exist (when they don’t – “Government is a disease masquerading as its own cure” Robert LeFevere), and that the only real solution is to either eliminate governments entirely, or, at the very least drastically downsize them all, then they will be fighting a forever losing battle.

    “Government doesn’t work” Harry Browne

    “Everything government touches turns to crap” Ringo Starr

    Regards, onebornfree

  36. Rosie says:

    White nationalism’s sole argument was that America would get more violent — but it’s getting less.

    The question isn’t really whether the country is more or less violent than it was when it was supermajority White, but rather whether the country is or is not more violent than it would be now if it were supermajority White.

    In any event, crime is not the only or even the best argument for White nationalism. Indeed, anyone who focuses too much on crime is not actually a White nationalist, but rather an HBD elitist, though I don’t expect you to appreciate the difference.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  37. Realist says:

    Wow, your comments are spot on. There must be a number of things we don’t agree on but none were mentioned in your comment.

  38. Rosie says:
    @Alt Right Moderate

    Like a lot of far right articles, this piece blames movements and institutions that were perfectly fine until quite recently.

    They just can’t stop attacking White people and White society (democracy, Christianity, women, the jury system…) in their quest to find something more interesting to say than “Schlomo dunnit.” It’s like some sort of twisted version of Occam’s Razor: The most exotic, novel, and high-falutin’ explanation is probably the correct one.

    I get it. The JQ is dull and sounds cranky. We’d all much rather be talking about the traditional subjects of Western philosophy: the ideal state, the existence of God, the good life, etc. But philosophy is one of the casualties of diversity and ethnic conflict. Someone whose name I can’t recall said something like this: When nothing is about race, then everything is about race.

    Any conclusions we draw about state and society while under occupation will necessarily be colored by that occupation and therefore forced rather than spontaneous and authentic, not to mention divisive. First, you secure your freedom. These other issues can and must wait.

    • Agree: Exile
  39. Cannot happen as long as msm has monopoly on Norine White minds.

  40. Let’s see now… you folks on the right can’t think this, and you shouldn’t say that, and you mustn’t do these, and you won’t get those, and and and…

    I notice that, whatever woodwork this self-proclaimed expert crawled out of, it certainly didn’t supply him with any viable alternatives.

    “I love the smell of demoralization in the morning.” D. Lawrence

    • Agree: Robert Bruce
  41. Katrinka says:

    Churches in the U.S. in particular were subverted at the very same time that the Federal Reserve became our central bank. This was not by accident. Destroy the religion of the people, (the U.S. was a Christian nation), and control the money supply. Game over. End the Federal Reserve and restore the churches and the country might have a chance.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Magic Dirt
  42. Anonymous[251] • Disclaimer says:

    Yes, puto culo manteca. Notice I said “a few bumps in the road”. The Floyd murder bump is transitory. Kind of like your attention span. The long term trend of decreasing violent crime will continue.

    • Disagree: Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @Montefrío
    , @Trajan92
  43. Realist says:
    @Gaspar DeLaFunk

    Finally an intelligent comment.

    • Agree: profnasty
  44. @Anonymous

    Utter lies and bullshit.

    Crime is off the fucking charts. Murder rates have skyrocketed since BLM rioted for many months and blacks were allowed to run wild…..and whites not allowed to defend themselves.

    Anarcho-tyranny has been established.

    jewish supremacists rule over all.

    • Thanks: Buck Ransom
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  45. profnasty says:

    As John Valby would say, “This is Philosophical Bullshit.”
    Or, conversely, Adolph Hitler would say, ‘OK, you’ve had your say. Now let’s get this country back on it’s feet. NO MORE FREE SHIT!’
    [No foreign wars. Go back to gold standard….
    hooboy, don’t get me started.]

  46. Not too sure what the point of the article was. The Alt Right was hijacked by Richard Spencer and a group of wannabees for the most part. It lacked cohesion as it was more than likely a psy op from the get go. When your first mass media exposure was a video of some moronic kids giving the Nazi salute to Heil Trump, what do you expect.

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  47. @Commentator Mike

    He should contribute some of his poetic works, I feel like a laugh.

  48. I think if I ran this article through a randomizing function to rearrange its words, I’d end up with something just as comprehensible, that is, incomprehensible.

    WTF is this guy trying to say?

    I had to look up ‘wignat’ which the urban dictionary says means: Within the parlance of the Alt-right movement, “wignat” is short for “wigger nationalist,” and refers to a person who takes unironic neo-Nazism over the edge into absurdism and lunacy.

    Now I still don’t know what wignat means.

    Must every half assed writer now use some kind of coded language to signal how in the know he is to produce a word salad that only another mentally ill person can pretend to understand?

    • Agree: Pepe the Frog
  49. Anon[159] • Disclaimer says:

    Here’s more Truth in 5 words than this douche wrote in 5,000.

    The Jews are Our Misfortune.

    • Agree: Katrinka
  50. anon[243] • Disclaimer says:

    true – the Fed bank cartel is part of the divide and conquer strategy to destroy our society ( by the small hats of course )

  51. @Robert Bruce

    I hate to have to go over this again but…. that “nazi salute” was actually just a toast from Richard,
    and two jews in the crowd gave the roman salute.

    Like everything in the jew media, the reports on this were total bullshit, hair on fire fear mongering from lunatic paranoid small hats.

    All of the reporting on C’ville was total bullshit.

    All of the reporting on Jan. 6th is total bullshit.

    Now the left is saying that it was the GOP that defunded the police.

    You can’t make this shit up.

    • Replies: @Robert Bruce
  52. Boris II says:

    The comments here at Unz illustrate clearly what’s wrong with white nationalism. Its adherents are unhinged conspiracy theorists with a thirst for blood.

    • LOL: CelestiaQuesta
    • Troll: Josh Kenn
  53. I. Unbecoming Men Who Strove with Gods

    They came of age the heirs of ruin,

    When remnants of the West were carrion

    To a ravening madness, a fear whose name

    Their fathers knew but feared remember, for shame

    Had so unmanned them, and degradations

    By degrees for generations

    The Enemy bred them to embrace and cherish.

    The virtues of their forebears so would perish,

    And with them any memory of their worth

    As nations or the race from whom came forth

    A civilization peerless and sublime.

    To this end the Enemy over time

    By sophistry, by trickery and theft

    Had sabotaged their minds, until bereft

    Of truth the sons of Europe were slaves

    Most base, slaves who swore on their lives

    They were free….

  54. The author suggests that infiltration is not a major issue…..

    It took 12 FBI agents to coerce five poor rednecks into “kidnapping” that awful Gretchen Witmer.

    God knows how many FBI were involved in the Jan.6th “insurrection.”

    Hell, the FBI is infiltrating Christian Bible studies! (It’s true)

    Two white people in the same place constitutes anudda shoah.

    A crowd of white people at a Nascar race reminds the small hats of Nazi Germany!

    We’ve come to the point that it’s ILLEGAL to be white.

    • Replies: @CelestiaQuesta
  55. This author likes to use the word ‘reduced’ when criticizing white nationalist ideas he doesn’t like. As if founding your political theories, in part, on basic truths about biology and nature is ‘reducing’ your politics to just those truths and nothing more. Or being concerned about the security and future of your racial/cultural kin is ‘reducing’ yourself to a fertility cult. He’s trying to paint what are in reality necessary but incomplete aspects of white nationalism as if they are it’s ultimate object. It’s unconvincing, although some of his other observations are quite cogent. He never does get round to telling us what he proposes in place of belief in democracy (or collective action) though.

  56. Dr. X says:

    An article with many good observations but no solutions. The author does accurately point out that White Nationalism is caught in a trap: it is cannot obtain power through the totalitarian democratic process, but neither can it adopt even the optics of fascism, the most successful nationalist challenge to democracy in the past century, because fascism has been so thoroughly discredited by everyone including the so-called “Right.”

    Worse, any attempt to evoke fascism attracts only clownish losers while playing directly into the hands of the Jewish-controlled state media and providing an opening for the Jewish (i.e., ADL) controlled secret police to create entrapment schemes which are then used to feed the democratic propaganda organs and justify more Deep State anti-“domestic terrorism” funding.

    It is worth noting that prior to World War II, the U.S. was white nationalist without being fascist. Almost every single president, with perhaps the exception of Lincoln, put the interests of the white race and of the nation at the forefront of his agenda — and in defense of Lincoln, it must be admitted that even he believed that the white race was superior to the Negroid race, and at least claimed that his mission was to save the nation. What gets passed off today as “fascism” and “racism” would have been regarded as everyday American common sense from Jefferson and Jackson right up to Eisenhower.

    I confess that I do not have a solution myself. However, in addressing this question, we must acknowledge two salient points: first, that the U.S. allied itself with the Soviet Union to defeat fascism; therefore, we must admit that democracy is a species of, and entirely compatible with, communism.

    Second, that this was done by white people themselves. Perhaps the greatest obstacle to “white nationalism” is that leftist whites have freely chosen to create an anti-natalist, anti-nationalist, pro-brown immigration, globalist, egalitarian/totalitarian democratic regime at the expense of their fellow whites. It is easy enough to point the finger at the blacks and the Jews for the mischief they have caused, and deservedly so, but the fact remains that they have been allowed and encouraged to create this mischief by left-wing whites who have employed them as pawns against traditionalist, nationalist, conservative whites of the type who dominated the U.S. from its founding until the 1960s.

  57. @Katrinka

    This plan falls apart once teenagers discover the internet. We aren’t going back to Footloose. So, it’s basically over.

  58. Truth says:

    Big Ron, two words; hire an editor.

    • Replies: @CelestiaQuesta
  59. @Anonymous

    making excuses for their cowardice.

    This is just too rich. A gutless craven who posts as “Anonymous” calling other people cowards.

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
  60. Exile says:

    “How can Jews be so powerful when we’re only this teeny-tiny minority… 2% – oh gawd..”

    If money and power mean nothing and numbers are everything, why don’t modern democracies have policies that reflect the will of a supermajority of their people on things like war, trade and immigration?

  61. Anonymous[270] • Disclaimer says:

    Garbage article. The author is clearly an anti-white shill who couldn’t even pretend to not enjoy spewing useless, defeatist and actually inaccurate blackpills.

    Back in the real world, even a vote for Trump – which was effectively erased and cast for a very weak candidate to begin with – turned out to be very useful because it happened in such huge numbers that the Deep State had to reveal its criminality for everyone to see. Millions of white people are much more redpilled now, after the stolen election, and that’s going to be very valuable in the future.

    Lawrence should just pack his shit and go live in the Amazon forest. Politics is too hard for people who give up at the first sign of adversity.

  62. It is an incorrect division, an unbiblical division. The only real division is sheep vs goats, or wheat vs tares(chaff), or elect vs reprobates, or believers vs infidels, or Children of God vs Children of Satan. Any other division is man made. The pagan evolutionists came up with the fake race theory. There is only one race, the human race. There may be multiple families or tribes, but believers can marry anyone else as long as they too are believers, no matter what “tribe” or “family”.

  63. @Robert Dolan

    Spencer an co were a psy op, hence the moronic crap that went on. They were amateurs trying to come off as pros. The shmuck Spencer didn’t even bother to write out a mission statement for his movement til the collapse started. When are people going to learn. The movement was half assed from the beginning. A bunch of dumb idiots trying to play frei korp, creating some hilariously bad optics. There are only two ways out of this predicament, a group of serious people with both feet firmly placed in the political reality of the present creates a well disciplined cadre of people to actually create a real opposition to what is going on, or do the sad but true path of letting it play out, which is indeed the more probable of the two. We gave our enemy over a century head start there Mr. Dolan. That is a pretty large head start to take control of both the narrative and the media optics. With a dumbed down society that is almost to Idiocracy levels, the jig is pretty much up, until some folks that have real brains and very large balls step up to the plate. A rather flawed and not that bright real estate mogul from NYC isn’t going to get the job done.

    • Replies: @W
  64. Secession between Red States and blue shtholes exists in all but name. An official divorce is required.

    The situation is always dire, that shouldn’t surprise anyone, nor should it be cause for surrender.

    Break up the giant corporation into manageable entities. Don’t worry about seating charts, water seeks its own level.

  65. Anonymous[309] • Disclaimer says:
    @Robert Dolan

    The murder rate is lower than it was in 1979. Let that sink in to your gaping Jewish asshole.

  66. Anonymous[309] • Disclaimer says:

    The murder rates of the 1970s, 80s and early 90s imply that a supermajority white America would be more murderous. Crime has been the singular pillar of white nationalism since it began; 99% of white nationalist dialogue revovles around crime. Time for Rosie to jump off the nearest bridge, it’s over for her.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  67. Anonymous[251] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ilya G Poimandres

    Ironically, the events of summer 2020 trace their origin to a white-on-black murder.

  68. Anonymous[251] • Disclaimer says:

    Cope. Trump lost because white males didn’t come out for him in 2020. All white men with their heads straight have come over to the Left. Trump was the working class Mexican’s candidate. You’re probably a Mexican.

    • Replies: @WJ
  69. I wasn’t a white Supremacists until they called me one.
    I wasn’t a domestic terrorist until they made me one.
    Now I’m their worst god damn nightmare.
    They shouldn’t have thrown whites out with the trash.
    The coming pushback will be relentless, cruel and unusual punishment.

    “ Westerners live under a totalitarian permanent government, obscured by a quasi-ceremonial election system.”

    How long has this been going on?

  70. @Truth

    Well Old Sport, get to work, UR is in need of Ebonics translator/rappers.
    Haw elze will all dim hoodrats no duh truf dat Dey blac azzes be’n replac wif illegals and refugeez.

  71. bayviking says:

    Voting does not work because our founding fathers established several ways for wealthy property owners to control Government, regardless of popular opinion. This problem has been greatly amplified by widespread gerrymandering.

    The only thing that has ever fixed the flaws in our alleged democracy has been civil disobedience. This is how labor unions were able to be created. This is how women earned the right to vote. This is how black people were able to begin the long battle to establish equal rights under the law, a battle which continues in the USA, to this day. Activism does work. But in this class struggle, defined by Marx, some people must be willing to put their lives on the line. It is only when the police and military initiate violence by shooting protestors, that public opinion turn against the ruling class.

    There is no denying the fact the Trump is a powerful political figure that has reshaped the Supreme Court in favor of the ruling class. American citizens live under an Oligarchy that has spent the last 75 years undoing the achievements of FDR. Trump is first and foremost a con-artist, peddling anything and everything which might promote his fame and fortune. Claiming the orange sloth is a populist is over the top nonsense. Like Biden, Trump supports low taxation of the rich.

    The corporate and military interests are served by both parties. Conservatives openly support preferential treatment of the ruling class and liberals object to it, preferring an unachievable equality within society. But, life isn’t fair. A more realistic goal is equality of treatment under the law.

    White nationalists are obsessed with racism, albeit under the Orwellian name of ‘anti-racism’. Race is a superficial distinction used to justify an entire worldview, that whites aren’t lucky, just better than everyone else, and therefore entitled to rule. But working people of every race share a common enemy, the politicians and bureaucrats with the power to negotiate free trade agreements, lower taxes on themselves and send those with no visible means of support to war for them.

    Even though the West was initially consolidated into a worldwide empire centered on the United States, this can no longer hold., because the ruling elite in the United States have deliberately undermined labor based wealth creation with offshoring of manufacturing.

    White nationalists tend to reduce the state to a tool of competing racial interests, just as Marxists reduce it to a tool of competing class interests. The ultimate end of life is not self-interest, but genetic interest, i.e. the self-propagation of distinct genes according to natural selection. Because the alleles, i.e. gene variants, possessed by (possessing?) an individual are also found to some degree in his brothers, sisters, parents, cousins etc., genetic interest can rationalize altruism and self-sacrifice for the sake of immediate kin. Once this point is accepted, race becomes an extended family. Tribalism and nationalism are states of mind in which the analogy of family and race is consciously acted upon.

    I suddenly realize I’m still not halfway through this opinion piece and give up.

  72. Robinski says:

    A whole lot of complaining about a lot of different subjects but no new ideas of what to do now. How do we deal with the impending racial, medical, military and political tyranny that is coming at us like a freight train?

  73. @Robert Dolan

    I’ve become so racist, I started hating myself.
    Did anyone hear the joke about the negro who tried to screw in a light bulbs?
    Coming Soon:
    Johnny Whiteman – The White Racist/White Supremacists/Domestic Terrorist
    The Greatest Comedy Show On Earth

  74. anon[285] • Disclaimer says:

    It is also helpful to know that white nationalism – far more than fascism – is predominantly feminine in spirit, though overwhelmingly masculine in body. Above all it is a fertility cult, and when it tries to express its highest ideals, it turns to matriarchal imagery

    “It is also helpful to know that nazi aesthetic ideals are predominately a suppressed homoeroticism in spirit….”

    Patterns of subversive jewish sophistry, I see them.

  75. … OK. Based on the article… the problem with white nationalism is that its undemocratic and prone to tyranny, so mysogynistically patriarchal as to elevate trans and homosexuality, and maybe a little inbred stupid.

    Not the best selling points for a brand of tribalism, nor the most efficient…

    The Jews simply elevated matrilineal decent from Abraham for base core identity, and became a kind of master hybrid race as long as they could remove competing matrilineal cultures.

    Any desirable genetic or cultural elements they can copy without citation from a world of host cultures. Plus, that’s a one-way flow. One drop of Jewish blood and offspring are always potentially full Jewish, and where held suspect by the non-Jewish population, only made more ready to fanatically embrace and serve a Jewish heritage.

    Its a powerful system; however distinct the Khazaars were, for example, came to be irrelevant when enough were half-Hebrew such that for the entire population to abandon everything they were or could be and mass convert to Judaism was no big deal.

    By comparison, one drop of non-white blood, and offspring aren’t white anymore. Longstanding Hollywood bloodlines, for example, aren’t pure white but mostly some degree of Jewish.

    If you’re going to look at people like cattle, well, hybrids are always superior to pure breeds. Pures are only useful for breed stock.

    Whites, did not conquer each other and the world for themselves, but their bankrollers.

    This article is as if a literate, well-bred attack dog could pen a whine about being in the kennel with the curs instead of the main house, not understanding why this is the natural order.

    • Replies: @Anzelo
  76. Anzelo says:

    They attack you because you can think, use your brain. That is dangerous so they dont like it. Delete shit fake self-defeating comments and keep up the good work. I read it even if this long, quite an achievement.

  77. Alfa158 says:

    Can anyone please explain what the hell is the point Lawrence is trying to make? As far as I can tell it seems to be White Nationalism doesn’t have a point and neither do I.

  78. @Anonymous

    “puto culo manteca”

    Is that supposed to translate as “butter-assed faggot”?

  79. Rosie says:

    The murder rates of the 1970s, 80s and early 90s imply that a supermajority white America would be more murderous.

    Good grief, imagine being this stupid.

    Blacks and Hispanics manage to kill more than Whites despite their most dysfunctional being behind bars for most of their lives.

    • Agree: Bernie
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  80. There’s nothing wrong wit a group of whites seeking a homeland for whites only, though it most likely cannot be partitioned from the US.

    Even Nazi Germany had nonwhites, some 600,000. You are going to have a heck of a time defining whiteness. But the argument presumes some mystical force that is preventing whites from having their own country — there is no such force.

    But if it includes nonwhites (however that is defined) even as servants, human nature will be hard pressed to be prevented from mixing.

    Again, it is doubtful that the US or any part of the US can be made into such an entity or be carved out from it.

  81. anon[426] • Disclaimer says:

    It doesn’t exist; its a slogan. That so called WN are good with warring against Iraqis and Afghans who are as white as Nancy Pelosi, that WN oppose letting them into the West, shows that it is mere Islamophobia. Trump was demonized when he said that illegals from Mexico should be stopped. Not for saying Muslims should be banned. Politicians have been saying Muslims should be banned for years without much pushback from MSM. Blacks in this country are still at the mercy of Whites. All the pandering to them now does not make them any more powerful . They are being humored that’s all. And they know this. Its your Latin Americans who are being empowered and who so called US WN are cucking to now!

    • Replies: @InnerCynic
  82. Rosie says:

    They let their women take their kids and assets and futures…as if Martians make divorce laws!

    Lie. Men don’t get to trade their wives out for a younger model and take the kids and money with them.

    Boo f*cking hoo.

    I’m still waiting for one of these miserable woman-haters to tell me what will satisfy them short of reducing every wife to an at-will concubine in her own damned house.

    • Replies: @Josh Kenn
  83. @Robert Dolan

    “We are not going to vote our way out of this.”

    I think the only way we get out of this IS to vote our way out of it. This will require convincing the so-called moderates that the 2020 election was stolen, the Democrat party is a criminal organization, and the Republican party can actually be forced to represent the people instead of the oligarchs by primarying the RINOS. Joe Biden is helping this project along every day with every public appearance.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Robert Bruce
  84. Anonymous[259] • Disclaimer says:

    And yet the murder rate keeps going down — implying whites were responisble for an enormous amount of unsolved crimes.

    That chart is useless without any reference to America’s population growth. The black incarceration rate has been sharply on the downturn for the last 20 years, btw.


  85. I hate to make this reference but one might want to examine Incorporated Birminghamton NY

  86. geokat62 says:
    @Joseph Doaks

    I think the only way we get out of this IS to vote our way out of it.

    Trumpstein, is that you?

  87. @thou/thee/thine pronouns

    Whites do not need to join a nationalist sect; they just need to remember how to make fun of other people.

    Amen! Mocking the retards, loudly, often, and publicly is today our best tactic. No better examples exist that ridiculing the faggots in dresses claiming to be women or the illiterate negroes claiming to be philosophers.

    • Agree: Naughtius Maximus
  88. “Let’s just say in advance that it has something to do with the Jews.”

    Hasn’t everything from Jesus on down to do with the Jew?

  89. Ktulu says:

    While I get the feeling you arent actually a shill, a bad way to get nationalists to see you as anything different is to tell them “what you are doing doesn’t work” and offer no alternatives than “give up”. This is exactly what you have done.

    What is true is that white nationalism has failed sp far since ’45. What is also true is that WN’s failure has been guaranteed by it’s impracticality in the post-war world where joining in any attempt to halt the advance of global capitalism under liberal democracy was guaranteed by not only by putting at risk the material wealth and wellbeing of whites who would join it but most starkly by the trusting in using liberal democratic processes to accomplish anything.

    What we are now faced with is becoming a hated minority in a multiracial third world country with all of the perpetual civil war, gridlock, and oligarchy inherent in that reality. This reality is not going to be stopped, indeed it is guaranteed at this point by the demographic and political realities already here.

    These realities make nationalism viable, but not through liberal democracy or academic debate but through similar incentives which produced zionism. Jews in the 1840’s found themselves scattered all over Europe, all of them mixed genetically with the local population to some extent or another, with differing loyalties and differing ways of life, but within 100 years (about) jewish nationalists managed to establish a jewish state in a land historically significant to the jews and attract so many other jews to their success that their nation is now a significant center of global power, no matter how much they may wish to minimize that reality.

    Zionists didn’t use the liberal democratic process to get a foothold in palestine. They didn’t have to rehabilitate any old jewish leaders. They did have to convince other jews to support their search for a nation. But the point is they did it, and do can we, but in order for us to do it, we need to start anew right now by building a community of whites similar to the community jews had in the 1840’s, a diaspora, perhaps somewhat mixed at it’s edges, who are and wish to remain white, working together to gain power, and then using that power to regain ourselves a nation or nations. None of that can be helped by looking to liberal democracy and none of it will be helped by leading with historical revision, although historical revision will play a part as it did with zionists.

    You are a debby downer faggot though. Fuck you for neglecting to present realistic alternatives to a dire situation.

  90. Treg says:

    Excellent essay! Now this is why I keep coming back to!… I must say that I learned dozens of useful concepts and thanks for the obvious black pilling! Simply an amazing essay. Well done. My Standing ovation.

  91. @Joseph Doaks

    Who are you going to vote for? Both parties are the same.

    • Agree: InnerCynic
  92. Rosie says:

    That chart is useless without any reference to America’s population growth.

    Unfortunately for you, the population hasn’t even doubled, let alone quadrupled, since 1970.

    The black incarceration rate has been sharply on the downturn for the last 20 years, btw.

    And yet, black males are still more than twice as likely to be incarcerated as White males, and still comprise 55% of all homicide offenders.

    I find that graph about female incarceration particularly interesting, though. In the case of hardened violent male criminals, judges only have do much scope for leniency.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  93. Josh Kenn says:

    Is the author Jewish? Because this is a masters course in hypocrisy, pilpul, subversion, and projection.

    I do not think this author is even close to appearing sincere in anything.

    I also do not trust anyone who uses the word “nazi” for any purpose in political discussion. Everything about WW2 is a pack of lies from the cause to the aftermath.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  94. @Chris Mallory

    This is just too rich. A gutless craven who posts as “Anonymous” calling other people cowards.

    Seriously? Who among us is using their real name? I don’t like “anonymous” simply because I can’t keep track of one “anon” to the next.

    And are you really contesting his point? It’s as obvious as the log in my eye that all our problems today are the result of emasculation or cowardice. No “man” of my forbears’ generation (any man any generation) would countenance a faggot in a dress entering a women’s bathroom or locker room. Said fag would find himself toothless with broken limbs and unable to find anyone offering sympathy.

    This is also the attraction most of us have for Putin or other Eastern European countries/leaders. They retain their balls (to at least some degree).

  95. frontier says:

    Yet whites won’t fight for it.

    For a good reason… The last brain-dead idiot who barked “Drang nach Osten” caused the death of at least 55 million whites and those deaths bought us only white guilt and political dispossession. “Let’s go fight” is the shriek of the subhuman cretin – it might have worked 50K years ago, but since then, win only those who know for what, how, where and when to fight or negotiate. Hungry for power suicidal maniacs are a dime a dozen, useful idiots all of them.

    The moral of the story is that what’s missing from white politics is wisdom. Wisdom is not IQ, it’s a lot more than that. Tiny, shy and muted pieces of it are present in the article but they get lost in a pile burdensome trash and serious errors. Your comment, however, contains only trash, you managed to subtract significantly from an already shaky discussion.

    Back to the article, “democracy bad” is either a sign of profound political ignorance or some sort of malicious trolling. Dismissing it out hand, without serious and extensive argumentation, pretty much precludes any serious conversation. Proposing to replace it with heroic mythology and magical unicorns is more evidence in favor of the maliciousness hypothesis. Nothing like that has ever worked, even useful idiots like Hitler and Mussolini recognized it… I don’t regret reading this word salad, it’s not entirely useless but it is entirely hopeless.

    • Replies: @Larry
  96. Pheasant says:

    ‘The resulting Nazi ideology didn’t make much sense, but it at least managed to run a state (into the ground) for twelve years,’

    The author is a fool. National socialism saved Germany and promoted the highest living standards in Europe to the German population. It took America, the British Empire and the Soviet union combined to defeat National socialist Germany all while secret German messages were being read and Germany was sabotaged by crypto Jewish traitors.

  97. @anon

    As I was saying there is nothing wrong with it… now what anyone does is all together another matter.

  98. Do you want to win? Fact is white nationalism is here and now a loser’s script and that is the only pertinent fact.

    The one party state has a million rules 100 000 of which directly contradict one another. Jews love rules. If you want to win the place to focus your energy is studying the rules and learning to maneuver within them. This is totally doable. Do not be distracted by getting fighty with negroes or jews. Avoid them when possible.

    • Replies: @Pepe the Frog
  99. @Anonymous

    When you release the criminals out into the wild and not lock them up is it any surprise the “rates” go down?

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  100. FvS says:

    What’s wrong with yellow nationalism in Asia? What’s wrong with black nationalism in Africa? What’s wrong with red nationalism in Central and South America? What’s wrong with brown nationalism in the Middle East?

    Still waiting for the article saying it’s foolish for the Chinese to want China to be Chinese or for Nigerians to want Nigeria to be Nigerian.

    No one understands the evolutionary dynamics of group competition and the importance of having one’s own ethnic group dominate wherever possible like the Jews. Coincidentally, they are the primary group preaching to whites that they should give up all their power, think of themselves as only individuals, and allow themselves to be displaced in their own countries. What a surprise! Whites that still fall for this crap are pretty much hopeless.

    Read this book if you really want to understand what’s going on in this country and the wider European world.

    • Agree: W
    • Replies: @Rdm
  101. Josh Kenn says:

    That was an excellent comment, thank you.

  102. Anzelo says:
    @Brockland A.T.

    This is nonsense. Learn from smarter asians. Save face. Harakiri is your best option now. There are 2 more options but you dont want to hear those, believe me…

    • Replies: @Brockland A.T.
  103. teo toon says:

    Jewish Nationalism as a Degenerate Fertility Cult
    Arab Nationalism as a Degenerate Fertility Cult
    Negro Nationalism as a Degenerate Fertility Cult
    Amerindian Nationalism as a Degenerate Fertility Cult
    Spanish Nationalism as a Degenerate Fertility Cult

    Can go all day with your Bullshiite.

  104. Rdm says:

    White Nationalism is fine as long as you keep it in Europe.

    Nazi is also fine as long as they keep it in Germany.

    British nationalism is also fine as long as they keep Brexit.

    But White nationalism in Australia, America, Canada is just a farce and must be nipped in the bud.

    Jews are doing a great work at this.


    • Troll: Pepe the Frog
  105. This article was a very strange editorial decision that calls for some explanation in lieu of which one is forced to assume the editor is just bored and not really doing his job.

    Much more than most – this article is a waste of breath, pixels, energy and above all the reader’s time – and suggests a lack of respect on behalf of the editor for the readers.

  106. @InnerCynic

    Crime “rates” surely go down when you refuse to arrest the criminals and allow them to run wild.

    This is what the leftist rulers have done with the blacks, especially in San Francisco.

    In CA many crimes are no longer prosecuted…..for instance, they allow blacks to steal up to $950 of merchandise (so stores have to close because they cannot afford to stay open)

  107. @Anonymous

    1. You are absolutely not anywhere near tall enough to ride this ride. At least Thomm up there,the long-winded untouchable caste homosexual, has a flexible enough vocabulary (probably in part from his “yoga” exercises with his male swami life partner) to spin a halfway entertaining,if completely full of shit, yarn.

    2. White Nationalism does not rest on the crime rate,you inbred dreidle-humping pervert. The crime rate fluctuates constantly according to different factors.

    3.The crime rate was down due to like 65% of the black male population serving life sentences in jail for crack or illegal possession due to tough on crime measures from the 80’s.

    4. The crime rate isn’t even on a downward trend anymore because it is up 200+% in almost every major city where they had a BLM event last year and the policies from the 80’s have largely been overturned.

    5. Absolutely no society established and run by blacks anywhere on Earth is peaceful and orderly the vast majority of the time.


    It has nothing to do with the black crime rate. The black crime rate is just an example of poorer outcomes under diversity that smart White Nationalists use to try to help idiots understand a policy with a civilization-scale outcome. Obviously it should be rethought as it is clear that a browner society has finally caused the bottom rung to fall off the IQ ladder and the lowest step you can be standing on is now “a hole in the ground”.

    • Thanks: W
  108. Rdm says:

    There’s nothing wrong with Europeans wanting to keep their mother land as Euro-centric descendent. It’s thousands years old continent and perfectly makes sense. But if you think North America should be Whites only just because the last 3 generations of yours were descended from Europeans, put yourself into Jews shoes and how they like the US to be only Jews centric. It’s no brainer, isn’t it? America is for whoever who can grab it and make it their own land.

    • Replies: @FvS
    , @Platonist
  109. All James Cohen said in the above article is basically this: “Hitler was a white nationalist, and it didn’t work out.” Hitler was anti-white trash who wanted to kill Polish and French. He had no notion of white solidarity. He was racist against non-german whites. Ergo, Hitler was not a white nationalist. I guess James Cohen will have to re-write the article.

    • Replies: @Platonist
    , @anarchyst
  110. Platonist says:

    Can we just admit that Hitler screwed the pooch on this particular political subject? If you go back to his speeches from the 1920s, they are as true now as they were then. But the whole “genocide of European Jewry” thing has eternally tarnished the ethno-political aspirations of the Northern peoples. It is over. What the New Testament calls “the time of the Gentiles” is over.

    • Replies: @Wignat is a slur
  111. FvS says:

    Oh, I understand perfectly that Jews have done and continue to do the things that they are doing out of their own group’s perceived interest. That still doesn’t change the fact that white nationalism is in my group’s best interest and that this country was founded by Europeans, for Europeans. In our entire history, the two biggest mistakes made by white Americans were importing African slaves and thinking that just because Jews were living in Europe that meant they were European.

    Tell you what, I’ll give up white nationalism when the Han Chinese and Jewish Israelis decide that it’s better for their own countries to be significantly multi-racial and for their own ethnic groups to be just another minority among many.

    • Replies: @Rdm
  112. Platonist says:

    I see the matter slightly differently Rdm. I see America as God’s slowly unfolding, providential punishment on the whole idea that human nature is whatever we want it to be. The Jews are being punished here along with the Goyim. And the instrument of God’s punishment will be the 40 million Coltranes. Human nature is not whatever we want it to be, but the up-for-grabs aspect of America will be, and is being, grabbed by people do not exhibit many of the qualities we have come to expect of human nature. (Or at least, what modern man idealized as human nature). In other words, if you want to know what will happen here, go back and read up on all those curses placed on the white man by the Indian chiefs. American is God punishing man’s pride by letting man destroy himself and the earth.

  113. Platonist says:

    I agree LawrenceelsCohen. If you go through David Irving’s books, you will find accounts that show unfortunately the Nazis— the rank-and-file Nazis—- themselves knew that the main problem with Hitler is that he was freaking crazy. The idea of curtailing the power of the Jewish political faction is an old theme of Christian political philosophy, and it can be done without butchery and while maintaining human respect for the Jews. By the end of his career, Hitler was comparing himself favorably to Gengis Khan. He was nuts.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  114. Emslander says:
    @Gaspar DeLaFunk

    The Pope is not a fag. Otherwise, I agree with the depth of your comments. LOL

  115. @Anonymous

    “…The author is clearly an anti-white shill who couldn’t even pretend to not enjoy spewing useless, defeatist and actually inaccurate blackpills…”

    That is the impression I got about Collin Liddell and his site Affirmative Right, from where this article stems, already long ago. His site is full of criticism of White Nationalism and defense of Jews (such as that they did not dominate communism in the SU), while offering no constructive alternatives. Liddell even averts that Andrew Anglin is a Negro. I once asked him directly in a comment if he is a white nationalist or not, and then he answered: “I am a Scottish nationalist”. Avoid Affirmative Right as the pest.

    • Agree: Wignat is a slur
    • Replies: @No Tattoos
  116. conatus says:

    The article was confusing and shrill. Not what I expect from Unz.

    Nothing is wrong with Nationalism white or Black and nationalism is Pride in ones Country but leftists cannot have this it would halt their rush to socialism

  118. Rdm says:

    I don’t deny that “White nationalism is in your group best interest.” As long as your group stay in Europe, it’s fine.

    This country was not founded by Europeans. This country was stolen by Europeans. It’s simple as that. I would rape your mother/daughter without their consent. It’s the natural instinct that females want to establish a family and settle in. Since I could provide whatever they may need, I’d enforce my willing and execute the procreation of my future seeds without their consent. Later I’d claim that I had fulfilled their needs whatever those may be, and proudly etched in stone that I raped your ancestors.

    “Founded” means the entity has never been observed or established in such a way that whatever memory that we mere mortals can retrieve and make it feasible in our daily context.

    Let’s look at this statement for the sake of argument, “Europeans founded the Europe”. It doesn’t make sense because our memory has no recollection of such entity. In fact, Europe belong to Europeans. That’s no doubt about it. It’s a given fact. The existence of Europe and Europeans had lasted longer than our feeble memory.

    “Europeans founded America.” It’s partially true in a sense that “America” was never an entity until in the last 2 centuries of our human memory. So the word “founded” brings something out of nonexistence. But it doesn’t say a whole picture of looting, killing, wiping out the indigenous population and massively migrating European descendent. So it’s not “founded” per se. It’s killing and colonization in modern time.

    I know it may sound ridiculous to your ears. It will always be.

    Even a tiny fraction of our human existence on the same continent for the last one hundred years makes you feel utterly disgusted in hearing such an atrocious claim, what would you think when a Jews hear a goyim claim that they (Jews) don’t belong in the continent that they themselves had lived for hundreds of years and brought religion with them?

    Such an utter display of hypocrisy, don’t you think?

    That’s the very reason why White nationalism is a farce to begin with. No one follows and no one will cheerlead for it. The moment you spout I’m for pro-White America is the very moment that you’d already lost a credible cause. Look at those pro-White cheerleaders here that you guys been salivating over and over again, Derbyshire, Anglin, all married to Asian wives. Such an utter joke.

  119. @Platonist

    The holocaust didn’t happen.

    • Agree: anarchyst
    • Replies: @Platonist
  120. Josh Kenn says:

    I’m still waiting for one of these miserable woman-haters to tell me what will satisfy them short of reducing every wife to an at-will concubine in her own damned house.

    Absolutely barred from politics and generally barred from the work force would be sufficient.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  121. anarchyst says:

    You are wrong. Hitler admired the English and held back on attacking the British Isles. Hitler also respected France, as most of France was untouched and was even used as a “vacation spot” for the military and other Germans. Petain was the leader of the French Republic but unfortunately was executed after the war.
    It is remarkable that Germany was attacked by the rest of the “free world” but held on for the longest time…

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @Johnny Rico
  122. Anonymous[359] • Disclaimer says:
    @Josh Kenn

    Yes, “James Lawrence” is almost certainly a Jew attempting a “fellow whites” routine without having the IQ to make his “concerns” believable.

    Happens all the time. A mediocre IQ Jew tries to fool the (in his mind dumber) white goyim but ends up revealed because he’s simply lacking the tools for the job. In this case we got a 10 000 words monstrosity of an article that can be summarised by “nothing you’ll ever attempt will work, white goyim” which is just laughably counterproductive as a defeatist psyop but he couldn’t see it since he had so much fun painting his “fellow whites” as losers – over and over and over, again.

  123. JamesinNM says:

    Author is a total idiot.

  124. anarchyst says:

    I must disagree. Irving could not have gotten his books published if he had told the TRUTH about Hitler’s true intentions and his respect for Great Britain, the USA and France. Irving could not tell the whole TRUTH about the German state at the time without being ostracized and “de-platformed”. In order to “save himself” he had to go against the TRUTH about the phony “holocaust” as well just to avoid imprisonment.
    Irving is still the world’s eminent authority on WW2 geopolitical TRUTH.

    • Replies: @Johnny Rico
  125. Emslander says:

    The most successful national leader in the twentieth century was Francisco Franco. He led a Catholic Spanish Nationalist uprising against an Atheistic Bolshevik regime that had been openly persecuting Priests, Religious Women and Lay Catholic citizens for ten years. It had suppressed the practice of the Faith and had banned Catholic education. It had done all this under the guise of Democratic Republicanism.

    Franco moved militarily only when the Republic authorized the killing of its parliamentary opposition. When he did move, he pursued a civil war that was decisive enough to eliminate politics in Spain for forty years. It was forty years of peace and, in time, of unbridled prosperity. He never looked for expansion of Spain beyond its borders and, in fact, gave virtual autonomy to its African protectorates. Spain was involved in no wars after the end of its civil war, including WWII, when Hitler did everything but force him into combat. He had his own economic theories, but they were never effected. His social policies were conservative, family oriented and Roman Catholic. For his efforts, he was eventually condemned by the liberalized Catholic clergy. Nonetheless, he maintained an ordered society until he died.

  126. W says:
    @Robert Bruce

    There are only two ways out of this predicament, a group of serious people with both feet firmly placed in the political reality of the present creates a well disciplined cadre of people to actually create a real opposition to what is going on, or do the sad but true path of letting it play out, which is indeed the more probable of the two.

    People like Owen Benjamin and Curtis Stone provided the best solution: build community and reduce dependence of babylon. The Bear community is a great example of how not to beat, but to bypass the system.

    The Bears are what the wignats could’ve have been, if wignats were of average IQ and of average time orientation.

    Building community is a bottom up solution that doesn’t require a savoir, it doesn’t require a 100+ million people to suddenly act in their best interest, it doesn’t require the masses to give up their power.

    Fantasies about a top down solution will never materialize – the people will never control the Federal government, the people are to fat dumb and happy to make the ultimate sacrifice. Whites need to suffer a lot more there is a chance of a revolution.

  127. What’s Wrong with White Nationalism?
    It isn’t White Separatism.

  128. @Thomm

    “The white genome has a special feature that ensures that all undesirable traits fall into a small fraction of the population (estimated at 10-20%), and the remaining 80-90% of us this remain fully free of flaws.”

    Poor Biden, 100% of his offspring became trash.

  129. This article is so dry, after a few hundred words my eyes feel like the tear ducts have stopped working.

  130. Beckow says:

    Nationalism without social policies is pointless. Trump succeeded by at least alluding to it. When he didn’t do anything he lost.

    There is a lot wrong with the liberal left. But they offer better lives to most people or at least talk about social policies. Conservative nationalism in practise seems to collapse into a libertarian dog-eat-dog world, they look at their own nation as a bunch of winners and losers. That has minimal political appeal. Having borders and normal families is a start, but nationalism needs more.

    It is not complicated, but for whatever reason American conservatives don’t get it. Maybe they don’t see America as a nation, then why would anyone trust them with power?

    • Replies: @Josh Kenn
    , @Robert Dolan
  131. @Ktulu

    Are you organizing this?

    And if so, how do you try to avoid the problems that usually arise in these organizations?

    • Replies: @Ktulu
  132. jamie b. says:


    Evidence? Sources? Providing at least some record of this ‘research’ might make your claims seem a little less extreme and loopy.

    • Replies: @Pepe the Frog
  133. Platonist says:
    @Wignat is a slur

    This Holocaust denial thing is a red herring. Whether or not the Holocaust happened, and I do think something like what they call the Holocaust certainly happened, there were two real and undeniable war crimes committed by the Allies during WWII: (1) the indiscriminate bombing of civilians in Germany (and Japan too); and (2) the ex post facto prosecution of the Nazi leadership for “war crimes” using sloppy rules of evidence at Nuremberg. The second will have more far-reaching consequences, since one can easily see that our Coltranes are gearing up to Nuremberg white America. And the Jews will themselves eventually be the victims of these political prosecutions, for which Nuremberg is the notorious prototype. (We gave the same kind of show trial to Saddam Hussein, and among the few moral voices who objected to this was Ramsey Clark).

  134. Based Lad says:

    tldr: power flows from the barrel of a gun

  135. LarryS says:

    White= not Black, not Hispanic, not Asian, etc.
    Whites don’t get to define themselves, they are defined by the not-White.

    People are tribal. Everyone prefers to be governed by people who share their genes, language and culture.

    No pain, no gain. People are complacent. Whites will not be motivated to protect their self interests until they are a minority.

    Diversity + proximity = war.

    The racial strife serves the Jews as they fear a White Christian majority in any country.

    Judaism has a goal of world domination.

    Judaism 101 The Mashiach (Messiah)

    “The mashiach will be a great political leader descended from King David. The mashiach is often referred to as “mashiach ben David” (mashiach, son of David). He will be well-versed in Jewish law, and observant of its commandments. He will be a charismatic leader, inspiring others to follow his example. He will be a great military leader, who will win battles for Israel. He will be a great judge, who makes righteous decisions. But above all, he will be a human being, not a god, demi-god or other supernatural being.

    Before the time of the mashiach, there shall be war and suffering.
    The mashiach will bring about the political and spiritual redemption of the Jewish people by bringing us back to Israel and restoring Jerusalem. He will establish a government in Israel that will be the center of all world government, both for Jews and gentiles. He will rebuild the Temple and re-establish its worship. He will restore the religious court system of Israel and establish Jewish law as the law of the land.

    Jews do not believe that Jesus was the mashiach. Assuming that he existed, and assuming that the Christian scriptures are accurate in describing him (both matters that are debatable), he simply did not fulfill the mission of the mashiach as it is described in the biblical passages cited above. Jesus did not do any of the things that the scriptures said the messiah would do.”

    • Replies: @HT
  136. Josh Kenn says:

    There are millions of us that do have articulated social policies and values, but we don’t have a voice. I don’t think many Americans appreciate how many other Americans have no political voice. We are all shut out. That is the only part this article got right (although it lied about the causes).

    I do not agree with allowing non-Europeans citizenship, but at this point we are all viewed as animals by the rulers.

    Libertarians and their social and economic Darwinism are not a substantial part of the right-leaning dissidents shut out of the system. At this point all ideologies are suspect and treated with scorn and derision. Ideologies only serve a ruling class. Blood and soil is what keeps a ruling class in check. You can not have that in a diverse country.

  137. @Beckow

    Conservatives are paid by the nose to not “get it.”

  138. Rosie says:
    @Josh Kenn

    Absolutely barred from politics and generally barred from the work force would be sufficient.

    Right, so total, abject helplessness is what you demand, because, like all manosphere creeps, you’re a sadistic psychopath who gets off on power and lacks normal human empathy.

    The future this sick bastard wants for your grandchildren:

  139. @anarchyst

    Or at least the only one you’ve read…kidding. You didn’t read him. That’s not what he said.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  140. @Pheasant

    “National socialism saved Germany and promoted the highest living standards in Europe to the German population.”

    Yes. When the National Socialists got control of Germany, they raised the nation from the economically weakest in the entire West to the strongest, within five years.

    China is now emerging supreme because China is National Socialist. That is, China combines nationalism with socialism.

    China is not Communist. In China, private property is sacrosanct, and Beijing now has more billionaires than any city in the world.

    There will be no war between the USA and China. America is too weak. It is rapidly becoming like South Africa. The US military is fully “woke.” It believes that discipline and teamwork are evil, and that trannies and homosexuals are good. Its hardware is garbage, since military contractors only care about keeping the federal dollars coming in.

    Everything in the USA is hemorrhaging and disintegrating. The US president is a senile fool with terminal dementia who can’t speak in coherent sentences. Democrat-run cities and states are hell-holes. BLM and Antifa are coddled. White nationalists are jailed.

    We’re done.

    • Replies: @No Tattoos
  141. @anarchyst

    “Hitler … held back on attacking the British Isles.”

    Bwahahahaaaaa! Wait, are you talking about Adolf Hitler?

    • Troll: anarchyst
    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  142. FvS says:

    The how of this country’s founding is irrelevant to the why and the for whom. By “founding,” I mean the creation of the state known as the United States of America. That state did not exist prior to Europeans coming here. And yes, the creation of nearly all states involves violence. That’s just how the world works. Merely conveying the idea to the Ottomans or Mongols that “This land belongs to us” would hardly have been enough to stop them from conquering Europe. And it sure as hell didn’t work for the various Amerindian tribes who were conquered by other tribes. By the way, these same conquering Amerindian tribes did not just refuse to fight the Europeans because they thought they deserved to have their land taken away for the violence they had done to others. It sounds idiotic just to suggest it.

    The how of this country’s founding is also irrelevant to what the interests of white Americans are today. A variant of white nationalism was the norm for most of our history as a nation, and the same goes for Canada and Australia. But due to fundamental flaws in their construction, our countries have been subverted by well-organized, well-funded Jews that are hostile to Europeans. Not even countries like Ireland, who did not engage in colonialism, have been spared.

    Again, I’ll give up white nationalism when the Han Chinese and Jewish Israelis decide that it’s better for their own countries to be significantly multi-racial and for their own ethnic groups to be just another minority among many. Until then, I’m still not going to accept those things for my own people, no matter how many non-whites tell us that we “deserve” it (even though it’s supposed to be a good thing?). You say, “Non-whites are going to take this country from you, and whites should just accept it.” I say, “F–k you.”

    As for whether Jews are European or not, they are obviously not since they are a Semitic people of their own admission despite whatever admixture and their homeland is in the Middle East. They always have been and always will be an antagonistic parasite in European societies.

    Finally, I don’t know why you bring up Derbyshire and Anglin as they are only two small figures out of how many pro-white thinkers over the centuries? If a Christian commits theft, does that mean Christianity has been discredited?

    • Replies: @Rdm
  143. The Fact is, whether it is good, bad or plain illogical, people are more comfortable with their own kind. Yes, it hurts to believe we are this way. Yes, it would be better if we were not. But we are, All human beings, every kind. It is demonstrated over and over again. In college, the different cultures, races, congregate with their own, with few exceptions and even with the pressures the administrations apply to make it otherwise. What’s the solution to changing this? Don’t ask me. I wouldn’t know and I haven’t a clue. Personally, I am the kind of soul who can get along with almost everyone, on an individual level. I think it’s true for many people. It’s when the group mind, organized society takes over and it always does. Aristotle said it, Man is a political animal and always congregates together, in groups. /PEACE

    • Replies: @Drapetomaniac
  144. @Johnny Rico

    Hitler sent ambassadors to England at least three times to try to avert war.

    Yes, he admired the English.

  145. anarchyst says:
    @Johnny Rico

    I’ve read ALL of Irving’s writings.

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  146. The author could have just stated that aimost everyone is still an animal and that the state of man’s so-called civilization reflects exactly that.

    Humans and monkeys share Machiavellian intelligence


    “Rhesus macaques live in complex societies with strong dominance hierarchies and long-lasting social bonds between female relatives. Individuals constantly compete for high social status and the power that comes with it using ruthless aggression, nepotism, and complex political alliances. Sex, too, can be used for political purposes. The tactics used by monkeys to increase or maintain their power are not much different from those Machiavelli suggested political leaders use during the Renaissance.

    Alpha males, who rule the 50 or so macaques in the troop, use threats and violence to hold on to the safest sleeping places, the best food, and access to the females in the group with whom they want to have sex. Like human dictators intent on holding power, dominant monkeys use frequent and unpredictable aggression as an effective form of intimidation. Less powerful members of the rhesus macaque group are marginalized and forced to live on the edges of the group’s area, where they are vulnerable to predator attacks. They must wait for the others to eat first and then have the leftovers; they have sex only when the dominant monkeys are not looking.

    “In rhesus society, dominants always travel in business class and subordinates in economy, and if the flight is overbooked, it’s the subordinates who get bumped off the plane,” Maestripieri said. “Social status can make the difference between life and death in human societies too,” he pointed out. In the wake of Hurricane Katrina, for instance, the poorer members of the community accounted for most of the hurricane’s death toll.

    Male macaques form alliances with more powerful individuals, and take part in scapegoating on the lower end of the hierarchy, a Machiavellian strategy that a mid-ranking monkey can use when under attack from a higher-ranking one. Altruism is rare and, in most cases, only a form of nepotistic behavior.”

    “What rhesus macaques and humans may have in common is that many of their psychological and behavioral dispositions have been shaped by intense competition between individuals and groups during the evolutionary history of these species” Maestripieri said. Rhesus groups can function like armies, and this may explain why these monkeys have been so successful in the competition with other primates.

    So here’s the scoop: only .1% of H. sapiens are human.

  147. @Franklin Ryckaert

    Hey Franklin *waves*

    I remember your from Alternative Right. Do you know what happened to “Nazi Officer” and that Islam-loving woman who followed him around?

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  148. @jamie b.

    He’s trolling. That much should be clear.

    As for the article itself, I don’t know what to think. “Well, yeah, the White race is under existential threat, and the government is controlled by our enemies and does not hide its genocidal hatred for us, buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut there’s nothing to be done, so enjoy the decline! Let’s rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic again! And let’s ask the band to play some reggae instead of that depressing ‘Nearer My God to Thee!’”

    It’s easy to criticize. It reminds me of nothing so much as Curtis Yarvin’s wordy explorations of our collapsing government and culture from about ten years back, written as “Mencius Moldbug.”

    “We think this ship might be sinking.”

    “You’re right. This ship is definitely sinking. And it’s sinking even faster than you thought, and the Captain’s drunk again, and the first officer sold all the lifeboats before we left port, for drug money. He OD’d and died in a back alley back in port, by the way, but his body won’t be found until after we all drown. Everything is far worse than you feared.”

    “What should we do? Should we, perhaps, consider putting on life jackets?”

    “No, no, NO! Those just attract the sharks and make them angry! The Internet will call us all ‘racist’ and you know you don’t want that!”

    “What should we do, then? Right now we’re just singing hymns while we wait for death.”

    “I dno, lol. But here’s a four thousand word long blank verse poem I wrote.”

    It’s facile. Stop telling us why White nationalism can’t work. What’s your plan? What alternative can you offer us? To criticize is to volunteer.

  149. @A little boy in the crowd

    Most of the USA is Mordor.

    Best to find somewhere in the mountains away from negroes and never leave. Everything is falling apart, even air travel. Soon there will be highway bandits like they have in India. Europe is not much better.

  150. Richard B says:
    @Robert Dolan

    I got pissed early on when the author claimed that WN’s “caused the death of others”

    Even worse is the first clause of that sentence.

    they brought Nazi larpers and violent street-fighters,

    Should be,

    The FBI brought Nazis and violent street-fighters.* At the behest of their bosses in the ADL/$PLC.

    *Down and out whites who are either up for probation, or out on parole, or who have cases pending for drug charges and violent offenses (usually domestic abuse or bar fights gone wrong) and even some pedos.

    You know, the same thing they’ve been doing for years – years.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
  151. @No Tattoos

    No, I don’t remember their cases. Another writer on Affirmative Right is/was Andre Novici, a self-confessed “non-White Nationalist” and “non-anti-Semite”, who still believes or pretends to believe that Lee Oswald killed JFK, which shows the degree of his gullibility or deceit. Do these shills get payed in shekels or in dollars?

  152. Ktulu says:
    @thou/thee/thine pronouns

    Many people need to “organize” this. This isnt some sort of cause or program, this is refounding of our civilization and it needs to be done by forming families, reproducing, and networking those families along common interests. Loyalty is easy to make out when dealing with families, loyalty is either to the family, or the person in question is gay, which should be easy enough to figure out.

    Networks of families working in common interest will then manifest to itself the leaders everyone is hoping will magically materialize.

    Political power is beyond attaining on a national level right now. What trying to gain that power will do is expose you to attacks by the state. You and your clan should gain local power and network with other white clans and nature does the rest.

  153. Rdm says:

    You say, “Non-whites are going to take this country from you, and whites should just accept it.” I say, “F–k you.”

    I never said that and I never will. That’s how the MSM spreads the misinformation. But arguing over the good faith, let’s continue forward with our logic. Never did I mention that non-Whites are going to take this country from Whites. I did describe the priori condition that “this country was stolen”, which makes White nationalism as farcical as it can get.

    Granted, if Europeans stand up tomorrow and fight off those freeloaders or migrants, no one will bat an eye. In fact, everybody all over the world will cheer for it. If Macron takes care of that sacred letter from French military and will build France only for French, no nations in UN will denounce such an executive order. But if Americans start propagating America for Whites only, that’s a serious claim over recent human memory of atrocity and wars. Granted, no humans have progressed without violence.

    I saw that picture someone posted above and I’m commenting here. I don’t know the poster original intention. But it fits my description well. The question is how FAR we would like to go back and consolidate our own vision so as to uphold our righteous claim? 100 years, 200 years or 500 years? If European descendent rightfully think that this country belongs to them because there was no United States of America before Europeans, would it be too farfetched to think that British founded India then? There was no “India” before British landed upon in South East Asia continent; all small tribes dominating in their own influence. And guess what? The founder left the continent after 200 years. The country “India” was left forever for so-called Indians now.

    As you claim, which I strongly agree and would not deny a single bit, “Violence is inevitable when two strong forces collide”. If we play a game by a set of rules already established in nature that “Winners take all”, be prepared to face the other reality as well, i.e., given your body and soul to be consumed by the winners. If that happens, you can “F–k yourself” all day long, but Jews will eat you alive in every aspect of your life, pimping gentile women in porn, feeding them to blacks, suppressing one’s own identity. This is life. Either live or die trying.

    When Europeans settled in this country, I’m sure there would have been many chest thumping Whites, claiming “Those backwards, low IQ, retard Natives can rot in Yosemite caves” with their superior gunpowder. How sweet that would have been.

    I mentioned Derby and Anglin because those are the ones who have been cheerleading pro-Whites narratives publicly albeit with their tenuous logic. Granted I’ll give Jared a sane person with some credits amongst all. Need I mention Spencer as well? The guy who have been jerking off to those Oishi Hentai?

    Morale of the story, White nationalism is dead in 2021. Jews have been making fun of them and yet they haven’t noticed it yet.

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
    , @FvS
  154. WJ says:

    Why would white men endorse this clown Biden? Do you think white men want to live in Mexico el Norte?

  155. @Rdm


    WN is just getting started.

    • Replies: @Rdm
  156. HT says:

    Jesus did not do any of the things that the scriptures said the messiah would do.”

    But he did. Obviously religious Jews don’t get that because they never understood their own scriptures.

  157. Anon[349] • Disclaimer says:

    I’m surprised others could not piece together what the article is alluding to. Essentially, it is accusing white nationalism, not of being immoral, but being ineffective. It does not pass the “good for whites” test, as it makes clear. It’s a fair claim, and the alternative it’s pushing is a sort of Evolian spirit instead, something that is harder to anathematize, more attractive and open, but also more demanding, thus nurturing group cohesion. The bigger question is though, can such a “aristocratic spirit” minded group really take off? Can it resist the onset of globohomo better? Or is a synthesis of this spirit already happening in the white nationalist camp? Because from what I can observe, it seems to me that synthesis is already mostly complete. So what will the Evolian spirit alone bring, that the synthesis cannot?

    I also think it’s somewhat unfair to critique the white nationalist movements as being “too democratic”. The reason they are populist is because lay people are the only ones who will take the side against globohomo, no elite institutions, not even the church will. By nature of the times, any dissident right movement must be populist, as there are not as of yet any elites that are truly looking to defect.

  158. saggy says: • Website

    First, they have seen that voting does not work

    Anyone can see that this is an attempted color revolution in the US, like the ones in Ukraine, Venezuela, and Belarus, based on claims of a bogus election.

    Why does Unz print this idiocy? And who in hell is James Lawrence?

  159. Bernie says:

    “The first time, they brought Nazi larpers and violent street-fighters, and caused the deaths of others.”

    Hahaha … antifa/BLM attacked a white man in his car and he tried to get away. It is on video.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
  160. FvS says:

    I never said that and I never will. That’s how the MSM spreads the misinformation. But arguing over the good faith, let’s continue forward with our logic. Never did I mention that non-Whites are going to take this country from Whites. I did describe the priori condition that “this country was stolen”, which makes White nationalism as farcical as it can get.

    Again, how this country came into existence is irrelevant to the fact that it is was created by Europeans, was essentially white nationalist for over 100 years, and that a return to white nationalism is in the best interest of the white population. You keep imagining a contradiction where there is none. There are no rules that state because this country was founded on “stolen” land, white Americans have to allow themselves to be displaced and have their own ethnics group’s power and access to resources diminished by any group that desires it. No other people on this planet would fall for such an idiotic notion, least of all Jews!

    Granted, if Europeans stand up tomorrow and fight off those freeloaders or migrants, no one will bat an eye. In fact, everybody all over the world will cheer for it. If Macron takes care of that sacred letter from French military and will build France only for French, no nations in UN will denounce such an executive order.

    Haha, I wish.

    If we play a game by a set of rules already established in nature that “Winners take all”, be prepared to face the other reality as well, i.e., given your body and soul to be consumed by the winners. If that happens, you can “F–k yourself” all day long, but Jews will eat you alive in every aspect of your life, pimping gentile women in porn, feeding them to blacks, suppressing one’s own identity. This is life. Either live or die trying.

    Umm…that’s happening anyway. White nationalism is the solution to it. You’re the one that has a problem with whites fighting back.

    Jews have been making fun of them and yet they haven’t noticed it yet.

    Jews have been making fun of all whites for being so gullible and weak. And to be honest, we kind of deserve it.

  161. meh says:

    The first time, they brought Nazi larpers and violent street-fighters, and caused the deaths of others.

    If you are simply going to uncritically repeat the lies of the MSM, everything else you write is going to have to be disregarded. Read the Heaphy Report. The “violent street-fighers” were antifa. The “Nazi larpers” had a permit and a court order; they were there to have a peaceful demonstration in support of the statue, listen to speeches, and go home. Police denied them their right to do that, and then forced them into the arms and projectiles of a crowd of violent antifa.

    Heather Heyer died of a heart attack, as her mother reported at the time and the media suppressed; Heather Heyer was massively obese and a cigarette smoker, and was engaged with antifa in blocking traffic. She may not have even been hit by a car. James Fields was threatened by gun wielding antifa and his car was being assaulted with baseball bats. He very clearly hits his brakes before hitting the stopped cars in front of him (cars that had been stopped by an antifa mob). The media narrative that he deliberately rammed his car into a crowd of people is a malicious lie, no different than the lies they tell about George Floyd, or January 6th, and so on.

    Everything you are being told about this is a lie, and if you repeat the lie, you compound the problem and you become part of the problem yourself.

  162. @Robert Dolan

    The term for it is stochastic terrorism. Leftist intellectuals, media figures, and social media influencers pump out an unending river of anti-White hatred, knowing and intending that it will push unstable figures to murder Whites. The more Whites dead, the better, to them. Whitey is standing in the path of De RebboLOOshun.

    Leftists are prone to compulsive, uncontrollable psychological projection. They can’t stop themselves from screaming their intentions to the whole world at the top of their lungs, then saying “no, I mean, THUH NATZEES want to do that!” Use your favorite search engine and see how often the Left uses the term “stochastic terrorism” to condemn anyone who suggests, for example, that existing laws on immigration should be enforced.

    And it’s been going on for decades. There was an enormous spike in black-on-White murders, rapes, assaults, and robberies immediately after Roots aired in 1977, and there are smaller ones every time it has aired in reruns ever since.

    They know exactly what they are doing. The fact that they feel compelled to accuse their opponents of “stochastic terrorism” is proof.

  163. @Anonymous

    The violent crime rate in the US went up sixfold between 1900 and 2000, most of that increase having taken place between 1965 and 1975. It’s almost as if Grandpa was right about Africans-in-America and what would happen if they were given “snivel rights” and emboldened by lenient courts and lax punishments.

    But you already knew this, didn’t you?

  164. Malla says:

    White Nationalism did not succeed till now, partly because Western Civilization has being going left for centuries. Indian civilization is inherently Right winged that is why the Hindutvas could get into power easy. Even India’s leftists are nationalists and here there is a racial nationalism which is implied, a genetic line so to speak. Mainstream Conservatism or Nationalism are even more Universal and left winged than India’s left winged partly because Christianity is Universal and not based on race.
    Mainstream American society had been scared of speaking of race while in India, race is implied. The issue is more religion but all are of the same race. Indian leftists are not talking about allowing millions of Africans, Latin Americans, Arabs etc…into India.
    That is why I say, Hitler was trying to make the Germans NORMAL. His Nazisim is NORMAL behaviour and mentality for most of us Third World populations. Before him, western civilization was going the path of abnormal and suicidal.
    We darkies are all Nazis and nazism is normal human behaviour. I was reading these comments on a YouTube video where Somalis were commenting that they did not want outsiders in their land. Yup natural human behaviour.

  165. @Anzelo

    That doesn’t make any more sense than the article…

    Japan was conquered by whites after copying Western fascism and racist theory and now serves Judeo-Christianity like the other conquests.

  166. @Morton's toes

    Except there’s really only one rule. There is not really a justice system at all, nor even a legal system. It’s an enormous game of Calvinball masquerading as a legal system. The only rule is, wypipo always lose. Wypipo have no rights the law is bound to respect. None.

    The “Constitution” and “the law” are just labels for the cudgel they beat you with. You’re not going to beard the lion in his den. The den is their workshop, and they hate you. This idea that there are rules, that there are laws, in Ameri-Kwa in the New Century is trivially demonstrated to be false. Reasoning from false premises is a guarantee of failure.

    • Replies: @Morton's toes
  167. @Platonist

    Whether or not six million people died is important to me, you have to be quite a ghoul to think it isn’t (in reality, I think you’re just a coward).

  168. Anonymous[343] • Disclaimer says:

    And yet the crime rate is still going down, implying that someone other than black males is responsible for a shit ton of unsolved homicides that took place 40 years ago.

    That means white males.

    • Troll: Pepe the Frog
    • Replies: @Rosie
  169. Trajan92 says:

    Cool, it will be just like all those low crime countries like Mexico, Brazil, and South Africa. By the way, you’re glowing asshole.

  170. Anon[805] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    You said – – “..But white nationalism is the worst possible mixture of the offensive and defensive approach. It is ideologically committed to starting a war for territory that it has no intention of ending on its own terms..”

    I disagree. The looming Civil War in America will surely be a race war, and that will bring about a full re-birth of White Nationalism.

    A few of us are willing to start out “within the system”, as a Compact of States, and later move towards becoming a Confederacy, if there is no other choice – –

    Then, there are the hard liners who want to see a White Nationalist coup d’etat led by White active duty US military troops – – Life imitates art – or, maybe this is “Fan Fiction” telling us the future – – Both of the fictional stories linked below predict that President Trump will be reinstated after a military coup d’etat – –

    (1.) Short Story – – (8-Pages) Military coup d’etat from the bottom up, wherein White, Asian, and Hispanic soldiers reinstate President Trump to his rightful office – –

    (2.) Full Length Novel – – (123-Pages) Military coup d’etat from the top down, wherein the Joint Chiefs force Congress to temporarily accept President Trump as the Speaker of the House, and after a forced Joint Session, Biden-Harris are removed. Funny stuff in this novel, not the least of which is the depiction of Biden’s dementia.

    Mike Lindell says that it will all happen on August 13th. We shall see…

    In their Links and Library section, you may want to review – –
    “Civil War II”
    (By: Thomas W. Chittum)

    • LOL: Emblematic
  171. @Platonist

    “Whether or not the Holocaust happened, and I do think something like what they call the Holocaust certainly happened”

    So you think millions of people were gassed to death with cyanide despite there not being one autopsy report produced by the Allies on anyone in any of these camps that shows that even one person died of cyanide poisoning?

    Or do you believe they were steamed to death like lobsters,like the original claims at the Nuremberg Trials before the Soviet show trial experts massaged the testimony to get the “gas chambers” narrative?

    Do you believe that millions of people were killed by being forced to climb trees and then having the trees chopped down? I’m not being a smartass here. Being forced to climb a tree and then being killed by having it chopped down is “something like what they call the Holocaust” as these are the so-called eyewitness accounts of the so-called “survivors” of the alleged “Holocaust”.

    Or do you believe the “something like what they call the Holocaust” is that jews were put into camps during the war and deported? Because that did happen. There’s proof of that.

    There’s no proof anyone was gassed with either cyanide or diesel exhaust,no proof that people were “death-marched” anywhere. No proof that German Shepherds with poisonous fangs bit jews and they died of dog venom. No proof that an eagle and a bear in a cage tore jews to shreds and ripped out their eyes. No proof that jews were drowned in buckets. No proof that jews were steamed alive like lobsters,electrocuted to death on electrified floors or conveyor belts, made to stand still while a cartoon coyote dropped an acme anvil on their heads or any other of the retarded childish execution methods they allege. These are probably just things that jews fantasized about doing to Germans before the Germans removed them from power.

  172. Thanks to Mr. Unz for giving this post a bit of wider exposure, although I don’t think it pleased most of his audience. To read some of these comments, you would think that white nationalism was the sort of powerful and successful movement that could afford to dismiss its critics on the right as shills, concern trolls, or idealistic snobs. But we all know that it has been floundering and imploding for the last 70+ years, and that it recently crowned its track record of failure by taking over the Alt-Right and driving it off a cliff.

    This being the case, it’s quite natural – and very ‘pro-white’ – to ask whether this cult and its doctrines are not doing more harm than good, and whether its dominance in the dissident mind is not blocking off other idea-paths that might actually achieve something. If your response to this is outrage, baseless suspicion (no, this author is not a Jew), and stubborn loyalty to WN, then you have obviously swallowed the claim of the cult to ‘represent’ Western civilisation and the European race. Well, if you want others to feel the same way, then show me where the cult has actually done any good for the things it claims to represent.


    That said, it’s fair enough to say that this post was long on criticism and short on solutions, so let me try to point the way as I see it.

    At one level, the outlook is not good. Voting doesn’t work for the right, activism doesn’t work for the right, and no amount of agitprop will persuade a herd of precariously-employed serfs to support positions that will get them punished. Conservatism is a glorified toy opposition, driven by money and not power, and is neither willing nor able to uncuck itself. Most ‘independent nation-states’ are imperial satrapies in all but name (whether they are allowed to be nationalist or not depends mostly on their proximity to independent Russia and China), and so white secession would be a counterproductive larp that would only go the way of Rhodesia and South Africa.

    And the US heartland of the empire is all but impregnable, and has barely even started immiserating its people, so anyone counting on ‘muh collapse’ as a deus ex machina has simply run out of ideas. For the foreseeable future, we are stuck with this dysfunctional totalitarian empire as it transitions from late democracy, to tyranny, to (God willing) a stable legitimist form of government that protects society and punishes its enemies.

    Hence my ‘blackpilling’ – which, as far as I am concerned, is just a refusal to deny reality, but which appears to WN paranoiacs as some sort of demoralisation psyop. Once again: you show me where any of the whitepills peddled by WNs over the last 5 years actually turned out to be true, and we will see whether it is I or your grifting cult-leaders who are deceiving you out of possibly nefarious motives.


    Once we get rid of this Don Quixote daydream about larping to power in a popular revolution (which is easy enough for sane, healthy people, but difficult for the narcissists and fantasists typically attracted to political activism), there opens up a vista of possibilities for surviving the tyranny and pushing it in the right direction.

    As I mentioned in the post, the history of leftist totalitarian states – Communist China, Soviet Russia, and Revolutionary France – shows a common pattern. Violent, socially-destructive revolution (democracy) is followed by an internal coup (Thermidor) and a transition to a kind of fascistic, conservative centralism (tyranny). None of these stages are ‘good’, exactly, but the sooner the West cycles through them the better, as the right gains nothing from preserving its ‘equal rights’ to voting, activism and agitprop.

    The Western cultural revolution is anti-white, anti-male, pro-deviant, etc., and it has so far managed to eat away at society in constant periodic waves without ever being brought to a stop. The main reasons why, I think, are 1) the leftist ideology of democracy, which promotes open power struggle in government and revolution in society; 2) the voting system, which incentivises the prog party to beat the con party by mobilising an army of state-suckled parasites; and 3) the role of conservatism, which sidelines counterrevolutionary types into a gilded cage, and consolidates the revolution by allowing it to introduce its doctrines in an incremental way.

    Basically, the main problem is democracy – a statement that will sound no less obvious, in the light of future hindsight, than “the main problem is communism” spoken in 1920s-30s Russia. The democratic system is the political cancer that holds together all the secondary symptoms of Western decline – such as, for example, Jewish power – which ought to be discussed in the frankest possible terms, but should not be used as a cope by those who want to keep believing in democracy by dumping its sins onto something contingent upon it.

    It follows that the first principle of dissident strategy should be to destroy conservatism. This act of righteous vengeance is well within our reach, since the con party depends on the kulaks for support and they can do a lot of damage just by refusing to vote for it. The project to destroy the con party fraud and wake up its victims has the potential to revitalise the dissident movement, as long as we know why we are doing it and how it helps us in the long run.

    But anti-conservatism has to be ideological, not just institutional, because there is no point replacing one con party and one species of conservatism with another. Either refuse to vote, or vote for the prog party (as a recognition of its power), or vote for a (hypothetical) Regime Abolitionist Party that demands an end to democracy regardless of whether it can achieve this practically. Do not waste time on anything – whether libertarian lawmongering or secessionist larping – that wants to ‘roll back’ the power of the empire rather than taking it and using it against the left.

    Assuming that conservatism can be destroyed, the result will be a one-party state in which voting is irrelevant and progressivism is openly enforced by law. This will be hard on public dissidents, some of whom may have to go into exile or something, but it will also be the beginning of the end for the left. Its ideology will infight and overreach itself in the absence of conservative scapegoats, and become seen as a sort of worthless currency that you have to pay out to the state in taxes while privately hoarding opposite beliefs. And counterrevolutionary power players will no longer be sidelined in the con party, or allowed to stage a kabuki show of reaction and walk away, so they will have little choice but to take power and use it.

    What dissidents do at this point depends on their personal situation. If you are a ordinary person, your best bet is to shut your mouth and open your mind, and try to carve out a relatively healthy life and continue your bloodline as the revolution eats itself. If you are in a position of power, you should manoeuvre to bring about Thermidor, probably under the rubric of some socialist bullshit that can stick together a big enough political army to overpower the progs.

    As for public dissidents, they should concentrate on ‘metapolitics’ – i.e. the project to siphon off religious authority from democracy and progressivism, by building up a body of doctrines with superior claims to truth, good and beauty, which can aspire to influence the post-revolutionary government of the future. In this project, above all, white nationalism is more of a hindrance than a help, as its idea of truth and good and beauty is just democracy plus scientism plus overwrought racial narcissism. But I’ve said more than enough on that topic in the post.

    (BTW, to those who mentioned Charlottesville, I should have made it clearer in the post that I don’t support the official line on the guilt of the Alt-Right protestors. A trap was sprung upon them by the police and antifa, and they were defending themselves against attack. But all the same, they showed up for a fight, and caused the death of others by accident. They were wrong in the sense that they were rightist anti-government activists, who thought they could successfully imitate the behaviour of leftist pro-government activists. I see a great many petulant, pontificating commenters here who – even now – have not learned the lesson that democracy has double standards for its kulaks.)

  173. @James Lawrence

    Ironic that this advice is coming from the consistently least popular White Nationalist site and writer (Colin Liddell’s in-fighting, pro-Jewish site, in its various incarnations)


    If you can’t sing, don’t.

    Same thing applies to writing.

  175. @Pepe the Frog

    Your experience and mine are totally different. I have never been arrested and I have never been involved in a lawsuit. I lay low. The last time I called the cops was over ten years ago and my neighbor across the street was pummeling one of his friends into the sidewalk at 3:00 A.M. yelling “I’ll kill you”. They had 4 cops there in 5 minutes and everything was quiet after that.

    Just avoid negroes and you should be fine. If you draw the attention of the state do not economize in hiring a lawyer. If you don’t get politically active you will almost certainly not draw their attention. It is effectively a one party state now. Don’t antagonize the cunts.

  176. Rosie says:

    And yet the crime rate is still going down, implying that someone other than black males is responsible for a shit ton of unsolved homicides that took place 40 years ago.

    Only an idiot like you would attempt to use evidence that you don’t have about something you don’t know to refute evidence we do have about things we do know.

    That means white males.

    Right. I guess that explains this map:

    F*** off, troll.

  177. @Shylock Schittlipz

    These are probably just things that jews fantasized about doing to Germans before the Germans removed them from power.

    We know exactly what the (((NKVD))) did in Ukraine just a few years before the war. Mass killings of White Christians are what (((they))) love the most. I cannot prove it but I strongly suspect that these stories of Jews being forced into tiny mine cars on rails, then sent up and down inclined ramps that flung them alive into roaring furnaces is “projection.”

    This is unimpeachable eyewitness testimony that none can question. “Holocaust survivors” swore that during an existential war, when the Germans were starving in the streets and their industry could barely function for lack of fuel, labor, and raw materials, they built this enormous Roller Coaster of Doom at Auschwitz. /pol/ named it the Holocoaster. This is all of a piece with the “gas chambers” with wooden doors.

    Back in the real world, this is the Red Cross’s postwar report on estimated deaths in German concentration camps during the war, most from starvation and typhus:

    The total figure is a bit over two hundred and seventy thousand, and that includes Gypsies, Communists, homosexuals, habitual criminals, and other undesirables. Additionally, perhaps as many as a few hundred Jews in Ukraine, Poland, and the Baltic States were lynched as collaborators and informers when Germans lifted the (((Soviet))) yoke off the people’s necks. Multiply the probable figure for the revenge the people inflicted on their tormentors for a year or two a hundredfold and round it up to three hundred thousand for a more accurate description of the Shoah, then cut it in half to reflect the number of Jews, this inexplicable wicked misfortune that befell the totally innocent people who just a handful of years before murdered anywhere between ten and thirty million Ukrainians, overthrew Hungary’s government and set up a Red reign of terror under (((Bela Kun))), attempted to overthrow the Weimar Republic to create a German Soviet State, who overthrew the Tsar and set up a terror state that killed tens of millions.

    How dare those uppity goyim pull (((them))) down from their rightfully earned thrones atop those lovely pyramids of White Christian skulls where they sat rubbing their hands with glee? They will have their revenge forever on White children not yet born, punishing them for not building time machines and going back in time to stop any misfortune from every happening to any Jew ever, because that’s the most wicked and evil thing to happen in all of human history. The Shoah was worse than when Zhang Xianzhong killed two thirds of the population of Sichuan almost four hundred years ago. It’s worse than Kemal Ataturk ordering the deaths of two and a half million White Christian Armenians fifteen years before the war–a genocide that the whole world watched happen, but no one felt justified starting another World War. It’s worse than the British starving one eighth of Ireland to death between 1845 and 1852 and driving another eighth into exile. It’s worse than a million White people murdered by Africans-in-America since (((they))) conspired to give them their “snivel rights” in 1965, and worse than almost half a million White men dying in a war (((they))) conspired to bring the US into in order to prop up Josef Stalin and install their special pet Mao T’se-Tung. Speaking of him, it’s worse than Mao killing a sixth of China’s population with famines and purges, too. Anyone who questions any of this is a Nazi, oy vey!

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    , @antibeast
  178. xxxeliss says:

    a significant percentage of WN,dissident right , fascists ,etc. have non-white female partners and most of them are homophobic

  179. antibeast says:
    @Pepe the Frog

    White men dying in a war (((they))) conspired to bring the US into in order to prop up Josef Stalin and install their special pet Mao Zedong. Speaking of him, it’s worse than Mao killing a sixth of China’s population with famines and purges, too. Anyone who questions any of this is a Nazi.

    Let me get this straight: one-sixth of 542 million (which was China’s population in 1949) is 90 million. So you’re claiming that ‘Mao killed 90 million by famines and purges’? If that’s the case, then how come China’s population increased from 542 to 930 million while life expectancy increased from 36 to 65, during 1949 to 1976 which is the year he died?

    White men like you should have their heads examined for brain cancer which would explain your hallucinations.

    • Troll: Pepe the Frog
  180. Anonymous[359] • Disclaimer says:

    Imagine being a shill who can’t even get his intended audience to read his shit.

    Personally, I’d postpone trying to change the world if my first point of failure was acute inability to establish basic communication. LOL

  181. antibeast says:
    @Pepe the Frog

    One more thing: how did the Jews install Mao Zedong? By forcing the Imperial Japanese Army to invade the Republic of China painstakingly built up by Chiang Kai-shek who succeeded in nearly destroying the CCP which forced it to a military retreat known as the Long March? Without the Japanese invasion of China, Mao could not have won the Chinese Civil War because the CCP had become a spent force by the time of the Long March when its membership dwindled down to 100,000 cadres. But the Japanese invasion of China destroyed the infrastructure, industries and institutions of the Republic of China which allowed the new CCP built upon Maoism to win the Chinese Civil War. That was the key event and main reason for the success of the CCP which grew TEN-FOLD during the Second Sino-Japanese War as a guerilla force fighting the Japanese imperialists. That’s how the CCP won the hearts and minds of the Chinese people. After WWII, Truman then backed Chiang’s Nationalist troops who ended up defecting and surrendering their US-supplied weapons to Mao’s Communists during the Chinese Civil War.

    What did the Jews do to help Mao win the Chinese Civil War? NOTHING.

    White men like you should seek psychiatric treatment for your delusional paranoia.

    • Replies: @Pepe the Frog
  182. Rdm says:
    @James Lawrence

    The revolutionary idea doesn’t come from the mass, it sprouts from the few select while the mass ridicule at them first.

    WN is dead for the long time. Either it needs to start afresh with different foundations or keep sniffing its own ass. So far it’s been a joke, not because a few select has a good intention of maintaining their racial line, but because the foundation was tenuous, the logic was feeble, the mission was utter garbage to begin with, so they just improvise whatever they could muster and needless to say it’s an utter failure from the get-go and becomes a clown of the world.

    I’ve been saying this and will repeat it again.

    WN must begin from their motherland, Europe. Any movement that begins from the fringes: Canada, US, Australia would ultimately fails even before they begin. The breeding ground must be pristine in human history and memory as far as one is concerned. If Kenyans rally tomorrow and chant “Africa for Africans”, no sane person will debate over logic. We now have some weirdo goatee with their beady eyes brandishing “Trump” card like it’s gonna bring old memories of White peace in 21st century in this stolen country while the country was bounded by native Mexicans down under, many of graves at schools up north and the entire Latin America from southern hemisphere is wishing us good luck, either I’m missing something completely out of a picture or they’re just some bumpkins out of woodwork thinking they’re somehow doing god’s work.

    Since WN is related to any nationalism of the world, here’s another analogy I’d like pitch in. If you want to reach to the top of the mountain, you must climb up from the bottom. There’s no way around it. Just because you climb down from a helicopter doesn’t mean you have reached to the top. The end would justify the means if and only if you yourself believe that you have climbed up the mountain. In this epic journey, you need sweat, pain, strength, resolve, and after all ‘the purpose’ of journey.

    In this case, China is second to none and will be the top in foreseeable future.

    So far, almost every European country is held hostage by this Empire with no clothes and any movement on WN in this country begins with “All lives matter” and hundreds of school graves have been disinterred here and there. Such a baloney of horseshit and bullshit all combined in 3-in-1 instant makeshift for White Nationalism narrative.

    If Neanderthal bones were dug up from Florence in Italy tomorrow and Italian chanting “Italy for Italians”, no one gives a shit.

    All in all, do not worry. It’s just getting started.

    and yet they fail to see that it’s going to fail again.

    • Agree: Robert Bruce
  183. @Shylock Schittlipz

    Auschwitz even had a brothel.

    We can’t get that kind of service 80 years later!

  184. @antibeast

    It’s not as if (((the Tribe))) hadn’t spend the last three quarters of a century boasting and gloating about their pivotal role installing Mao T’se-Tung and Ho Chi Minh and bringing the blessings of Scientific Marxist-Leninism to the benighted East. They can’t shut up about it.

    In 1955 Joseph McCarthy wrote a book about exactly who in the State Department again and again “accidentally” gave shipments of American weapons and supplies to the Communists and “accidentally” mediated prisoner exchanges in which Nationalist prisoners-of-war held by Japan were turned over to Mao, who had them all shot. It’s called “America’s Retreat from Victory: the Story of George Catlett Marshall.” He named names, a suspicious number of which ended in berg, baum, and stein. A State Department functionary and Communist Party member named (((Sydney Rittenberg))) in particular has bloody fingerprints all over the decades-long bloodbath Mao and the Reds brought about.

    Look, none of this is the least bit complicated. About a hundred years back, a certain (((Tribe))), mainly wearing small hats and residing in New York City, a certain (((tribe))) which already owned Hollywood, the radio networks, moving pictures, and the banking and financial systems, took up a sudden faddish interest in China. They became obsessed with mahjong, Chinese food, and silk cheongsam dresses for their ugly hooknosed wives. They were watching very closely when the Japanese invaded Manchuria in 1931 and the world got to see uncivilized Asiatics treating one another the way uncivilized Asiatics have treated one another for six thousand years of recorded history there. The (((Tribe))) staged sensational moving-picture newsreels in which the Japanese were accused of every atrocity they could imagine, and maybe as much as half of their confabulations and guesses turned out to be true. They were outraged by propaganda they’d written themselves. They spent a decade pumping agitprop into the minds of their customers in the audience, demanding war with Japan. When (((they))) noticed that the German people were taking power back from their own local (((banksters))) after a generation of corruption and misrule they got even angrier.

    When the Roosevelt Administration came to power in 1933, the (((Tribe))) found eager ears to listen and eager helping hands in an administration that desperately needed a nice long bloody war, as expensive as possible, to end the Depression by the simple expedient of getting rid of half a million or so working-class White men who were surplus to requirements and not profitable for the (((banksters))). Roosevelt spent eight years denouncing Japan and Germany from the Oval Office, insulting their diplomats, making ultimatums. imposing trade restrictions. He sent the Navy into Japanese and German controlled waters again and again for years, trying over and over to create a pretext for war. Even as this was happening, (((the Tribe)))’s Wall Street banksters made enormous war loans to France and the UK.

    At the end of 1941 FDR and his lackeys finally succeeded and finally got the war they’d worked so long to bring about, and made sure the (((banksters))) got their war loans repaid with interest, though it was over much too soon for the liking of (((Wall Street))), who were making billions in the munitions and shipbuilding industries. Worse, the victory was too clear-cut and unquestionable. (((The Tribe))) doesn’t like it when we win a war. (((They))) don’t like social cohesion in White nations. They don’t like it when we have faith in ourselves and our institutions. It makes us uppity. They’ve been punishing us for it for three quarters of a century, cooking up one long bloody war after another that go on and on and on forever, that we’re not allowed to win, that keep the flag-draped coffins flowing into Arlington and keep the money flowing into (((their))) bank accounts.

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    , @Malla
  185. antibeast says:
    @Pepe the Frog

    What you’re insinuating is called the fallacy of reductio ad absurdum, that somehow Jewish Communist sympathizers had some role to play in helping Mao win the Chinese Civil War which they don’t, notwithstanding the presence of Jewish Communists in China. It is absurd for Conspiracy Theorists like you to suggest that the Chinese Civil War, Long March and Second Sino-Japanese War never happened as if those events played marginal roles in the triumph of Mao’s CCP over Chiang’s KMT in China. Even more absurd is the notion that the FDR Administration somehow played any role in the affairs of the Republic of China prior to Pearl Harbor. The fact of the matter is that the USA played no role in the affairs of the Republic of China since its founding in 1911 to 1941 which means that no matter how many Jewish ‘commie pinko’ Bolsheviks infiltrated the USA during the pre-war period had ZERO impact on the Republic of China. None. Nada. Zilch. Zero.

    By the way, there were a LOT of Western Communists who joined and served the CCP during its early days but they all left when the Japanese invaded China. And that was the KEY event and the MAIN reason why the CCP succeeded in winning the hearts and minds of the people, by waging a guerilla war against the Japanese imperialists who were skinning Chinese peasants alive in the Northeast where the bulk of the war crimes committed by the Imperial Japanese Army occurred.

    To Western Conspiracy Theorists such as yourself, none of that matters. Neither the Chinese Civil War which lasted from 1927 to 1949, interrupted only by the Second Sino-Japanese War, which reversed the fortunes of Mao’s CCP as it expanded its membership base TEN-FOLD during the war. Nor can you explain why the KMT armies were defecting to the CCP and surrendering their US-supplied weapons to the PLA after the war. Not because some Jewish ‘commie pinko’ Bolsheviks told them to do so but because the CCP had already won the loyalty and support of the Chinese people, including the KMT defectors who were supposed to fight them. In fact, both the FDR and Truman Administrations supported Chiang’s KMT during and after WWII respectively which still lost the Chinese Civil War due to its own incompetence, corruption, war-profiteering and racketeering. Chiang himself admitted as much as he retreated to Taiwan, pointing to the KMT’s own failures as responsible for the triumph of the CCP in China.

    But to the delusional paranoia of Westerners such as yourself, none of that exists except a bunch of Jewish ‘commie pinko’ Bolsheviks forever scheming to take over the world.

    • Replies: @Pepe the Frog
  186. Rosie says:
    @James Lawrence

    The democratic system is the political cancer that holds together all the secondary symptoms of Western decline – such as, for example, Jewish power – which ought to be discussed in the frankest possible terms, but should not be used as a cope by those who want to keep believing in democracy by dumping its sins onto something contingent upon it.

    We understood you the first time. We thought you were FOS and told you so. Repeating yourself isn’t going to do any good.

    I call this the root cause fallacy. Even if it is true that democracy is the root cause (a “but-for cause) of our problems, it doesn’t follow that democracy is the problem. If you have cancer and your oncology prescribes chemotherapy, you’re probably going to be very sick. Hence, the chemotherapy is the “root cause” of your nausea and vomiting. Does it follow that you should stop doing chemotherapy? Or that your doctor is a quack? No. The question still remains whether it’s better for you to stop or continue your chemotherapy.

    Assuming FSA that democracy is problematic because it is susceptible to subversion, you don’t just start attacking it on that account windmill accounting of all the pros and cons. The solution may be simply to take protective measures against such subversion.

    Certainly, abandoning White nationalism isn’t going to do any good. We don’t want better government for brown people. We want a future for our people. Telling us to want something else really just amounts to a claim on your part that White survival isn’t that important, or at the very least, isn’t worth the effort. Obviously, we don’t agree. If we did, we wouldn’t be W, would we?

  187. Malla says:
    @Pepe the Frog

    I was going to jump into this “USA might have clandestinely supported the CPC against the KMT”, I have written extensively about this before extensively but many here seem to be sensitive about this so I let it go.
    However there is something interesting about President FDR pointed out to me by a knowledgeable Chinese guy in a different forum long time back, which I had forgotten.
    US President FD Roosevelt worked for the China Zhi Gong Party in the US as their lawyer at the very beginning of his career. And China Zhi Gong Party became one of the eight legally recognized minor political parties under the Chinese Communist Party since 1949.
    And also FDR’s mother’s family, the Delano, made their fortune with transporting Opium during the Sassoon opium days. Strange connections there.
    Also research marxist elements inside the Truman and FDR administration, like for example Owen Lattimore of the Institute of Pacific Research.

    • Thanks: Pepe the Frog
  188. @antibeast

    somehow Jewish Communist sympathizers had some role to play in helping Mao win the Chinese Civil War which they don’t,

    “Somehow?” No. They take credit for it. They meticulously and scrupulously documented every shipment of American arms that “accidentally” went to Mao, every prisoner exchange in which Nationalist POWs were handed over to the Communists. The fact is that the Communist revolution in China was almost entirely made in USA, just like the Judeobolshevik revolution in Russia three decades before. McCarthy wrote a book about it. Your desperate, flailing hand-waving and shrill denial of reality don’t change the facts.

    Maybe you need to read some books with fewer pictures and bigger words, but that would require you to put down the bong and the TV remote control.

    You’re not very good at this, are you? Maybe you’re not tall enough for this ride. But I guess George Soros’s and the CCP’s propaganda armies of “wumao” ten-cents-a-post Internet trolls don’t recruit the best and brightest.

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    , @antibeast
  189. WWWWN?

    Ans: It’s a Jew trap.

    The TJM or “Tiny Jew Minority” can dominate our NAGIM [Normal, Alias “Gentile”, IMmensity] only by applying the obvious & ancient strategy of “Rivide And Dule”  or something like that. Consequently, JAR [“JewAmerican Regime”] most fears leaders who can unite our rainbow race of 8 billion [rounded up]. Hence the successful attacks by JAR assassins against honorable men such as Abraham Lincoln, Huey Long, the Three Kennedys, Malcolm X, MLK and David Koresh.

    Th most profound living American scholar of the Jews, author and Professor Kevin B. MacDonald, deviated into WN out of cowardice, evidently wishing to avoid the personal fate of the panracial heroes named in the paragraph above.  A quite understandable desire actually, but ….

    Our host here, the blood Jew Ron Unz, serves malicious Jew global strategy by systematically trying to promote anti-black WN ideology here on his active site.  OTOH the two closest claimants to genuine leadership whom I can see today on the U.S. scene are Danny Glover and Colin Kaepernick, both of my adopted hometown of San Francisco,  and both of them walk pretty soft. The U.K. has Roger Waters to its credit and France has Dieudonné M’bala M’bala. The superior political intelligence of Mexicans as opposed to U.S. white Anglos is shown by comparing President “AMLO” against Kneeling Joe Biden-Harris or Donald רמת טראמפ Trump, that wretched clump of hired jootools. But, keep the faith, Jack:

    Jimmy Cliff – You Can Get It If You Really Want
    318,831 views • Jul 18, 2012
    Worldwide we also have other upright judges from whom to learn, such as: Bashar al-Assad, Evo Morales, Nicolas Maduro, Kim Jong-un, Hassan Nasrallah, Ahed Tamimi and Fernando Botero.

    WN’s strictly for bleached knuckle-draggers misled by Jew plants, right Ron? Get smart, go human?


  190. antibeast says:
    @Pepe the Frog

    Your claim that Jewish Bolsheviks infiltrating the FDR/Truman Administrations somehow had any effect on the outcome of the Chinese Civil War is highly presumptuous as if the USA had some magical powers to determine the fate of China. I am not disputing this Jewish Bolshevik infiltration of the USA but my point remains that were if not for the Japanese invasion of China, then the CCP would not have won the Chinese Civil War which actually started in 1927, the year Chiang decided to dump the USSR and ally the Republic of China with GERMANY. The USA had no role whatsoever during this crucial period when Chiang single-handedly defeated the CCP in a series of ‘encirclement’ campaigns which ended in a military retreat called the Long March. In Yan’an, Mao then remade the CCP in his own image by purging the remaining Soviet Comintern agents who were purged earlier from the KMT by Chiang. After the Japanese invasion, the Maoist CCP then fought the Japanese imperialists in a ‘People’s War of National Liberation’ which then morphed into the Chinese Civil War after the surrender of the Japanese at the end of WWII.


    Everything else is inconsequential and immaterial to the fate of China — before, during and after WWII — regardless of how many Jewish Bolsheviks infiltrated and subverted the FDR/Truman Administrations due to the IRRELEVANCE of the USA to China.

    The fact of the matter is that the USA never had any kind of influence nor played any major role in the affairs of the Republic of China prior to Pearl Harbor. Why should you assume that the USA could have exerted any kind of influence or played any major role in the affairs of the Republic of China after WWII? The only role that the USA played was to give financial aid to China which was promptly stolen by the KMT as well as supply weapons to Chiang which were surrendered by defecting KMT troops to the CCP. Those defecting KMT troops did so not because they were taking orders from some Jewish ‘commie pinko’ Bolsheviks in the USA but because the CCP had won the hearts and minds of the people after waging a ‘People’s War’ against the Japanese imperialists during the Second Sino-Japanese War.

    Where were the Americans during this time? They were in the Philippines which was their US colony. After the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor and invaded the Philippines, General Douglas MacArthur fled the Philippines and abandoned his USAFFE troops to the invading Japanese. After the war, the Americans quickly granted Filipinos their independence while MacArthur installed himself as the American Shogun in Japan.

    • Troll: Pepe the Frog
  191. @Rdm

    I freely admit it without any qualifications. I’ve long ago, always considered him a five star buffoon. Now, I have less respect than ever for this moron. He has no character to speak of, unless possibly a rotten one. He’s been denigrating “white people” on an almost weekly basis ever since he’s been president and he’s been doing it with enthusiasm. Can anyone think of a world leader today, who is regularly into denigrating the people he/she is supposed to be leading?

  192. Thomm says:

    There is no ideology that has less of a chance of success than White Trashionalism. This is because the ideology is 99% male, and about 40% of those males are gay.

    Hence, heterosexuals will never let these WNs into respectable society. We have no reason to.

    Btw, the list of WN homos here who have openly said that they would rather have sex with a white man than a black woman (even an attractive one) is below.


    Mark Tre
    William Badwhite
    Cowtown Rebel

    Anyone who doubts this should ask them themselves.

    Their rationale is that race loyalty has to trump sexual orientation, in a show of white solidarity. They also say that producing no baby is better than producing a mulatto baby.

    That is why we don’t allow them into respectable society. Remember that 55% of white women voted for Trump, but zero are found in WN circles. The reason for this is as I described above.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @dude dudley
  193. Anon[146] • Disclaimer says:

    We Form a Mighty Faggot

  194. antibeast says:
    @Wignat is a slur

    What is a ‘nation’? Here’s the Wikipedia definition:

    A nation is a community of people formed on the basis of a common language, history, ethnicity, a common culture and, in many cases, a shared territory. A nation is a collective identity of people.

    There is no ‘White Nation’ in the USA because there is no ‘community of people’ formed on the basis of:

    1). A common language
    2). A common history
    3). A common ethnicity
    4) A common culture

    The only thing the stupid gringos have is a ‘shared territory’ stolen from the Native American tribes who were exterminated by the USA to make way for European immigrants. What do these European immigrants have in common with each other? NOTHING.

    Instead of forming a European-American identity just like the British-Canadians or French-Canadians, the USA stripped those European immigrants of their European languages, histories, ethnicities and cultures which turned them into a deracinated people with ZERO linguistic/historical/ethnic/cultural ties to their ancestral homelands in Europe. In short, they’ve become ‘White Trash’ which ain’t a ‘Nation’ by any definition of that word. If you go to Quebec, you will find the Quebecois Nation — as the French-Canadians call themselves — with a common language, history, ethnicity and culture. But if you go to the USA, you will find nothing but ‘White Trash’ — gun-toting, truck-driving, wife-swapping, dog-fucking, child-molesting, nigger-lynching, porn-watching, drug-addicted, sex-crazed, MAGA-loving, Trump-worshipping, “USA NUMBER ONE!”-shouting, “We Wuz Aryanz n Shiet!”-Aryan-wannabe WHITE TRASH!

    Stupid gringos ain’t a White Nation ‘cuz they’re just a bunch of stupid ZERIO-IQ WHITE TRASH!

    • Replies: @dude dudley
    , @Mike Holley
  195. Truth says:

    Hey, I witnessed four or five of those names say that myself…

  196. @Gigachad

    If y0u can think of no alternative except “white nationalism”, you are certainly doomed. Notice the yowls of outrage in most comments here, because the essay hit true and close.

    What made you ever think it was a political or ideological or religious answer to life? When people started living in their mind is when this all fell apart.

  197. @Thomm

    All fascism is homosexual it’s an outburst by pansy men and prison rapists

  198. antibeast says:
    @Pepe the Frog

    By the way, remember this guy:

    That’s General Douglas “I Shall Return!” MacArthur making a comeback by landing in Leyte, Philippines on October 20, 1944, two and a half years after leaving Corregidor, Philippines on March 11, 1942, abandoning his USAFFE troops to the invading Japanese forces.

    Now as an American, you may be asking: what is MacArthur doing there in the Philippines? Because he wanted to ‘save face’ to Filipinos to whom he made his promise of “I Shall Return!” two and a half years earlier when he fled from the Philippines to Australia.

    After returning to the Philippines to ‘liberate’ the Filipinos from the Japanese, MacArthur quickly left Manila for Tokyo where he spent the next few years protecting Hirohito from war-crimes prosecution, betraying his own USAFFE troops who had become American POWs under the Japanese. At the onset of the Korean War, MacArthur then led the US military to cross the 38th parallel, invading North Korea all the way to the Yalu River when the Chinese PVA intervened in the Korean War on October 19, 1950. Truman later fired MacArthur for wanting to drag China into the Korean War.

    Americans such as yourself seem to suffer from historical amnesia, forgetting the fact that the Philippines was a US colony which is why the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor in their Southern Campaign to invade Southeast Asia. After WWII, the Americans hastily granted Filipinos their independence because the USA didn’t want to bear the financial burden of rebuilding its war-torn colony of the Philippines. That’s why MacArthur quickly left Manila for Tokyo where he installed himself as the American Shogun, ruling a war-torn Japan which now had to be rebuilt under US military occupation.

    The Americans had NOTHING to do with China before WWII and played only a supporting role giving financial and military aid to Chiang after WWII. Where were the Americans during this time? They were in the Philippines before WWII and then moved to Japan after WWII.

    Why should a bunch of commie pinkos infiltrating the FDR and Truman Administrations be somehow RELEVANT to China when the USA itself was IRRELEVANT to the Republic of China?

    • Troll: Pepe the Frog
  199. @antibeast

    This is what happens when Chingarle gets deported for the seventh time because he was too fat to swim as fast as his chavos.

    Moron claims there’s no common culture among White Americans and then disproves his own assertion, point by point. Moron claims there’s no common European language among White Americans. Right, that’s why 100% of our cohort speaks English. Moron claims there’s no common history among White Americans. Right, that’s why there is a two-part sequence taught at every university in the land entitled “American history.” Moron claims there’s no common ethnicity among White Americans. Right, and he was actually dumb enough to claim this while typing the term “White Americans” multiple times within the same post. Moron claims there is no common culture among White Americans. Right, that’s why White American culture is copied around the world, our food, our music, our clothing, our technology, and our business models.

    The intellectual sewage this clown posted illustrates why the entire strategy of the left hinges on destroying whites rather than elevating minorities. There is no way to elevate this trash beyond the training required to teach them how to start a zero-turn mower.

    • Thanks: Pepe the Frog
  200. Some very insightful observations and a few misunderstandings, specifically about the Northwest Imperative.

    I’m Douglas Morrison the spokesman for the Northwest Front, if you’d like to gain a deeper understanding of the Butler Plan, feel free to email me, or visit the new site at where you can download all the Northwest novels free of charge.

  201. Vaterland says:
    @James Lawrence

    While some of your criticisms of white nationalism are valid, I think you are completely missing the shot. Most people who made up the internet based new, alt and dissident right, pic your label, have nothing in common with whatever “trailer trash” caricature you seem to have in mind of wigger nationalism 1.0. Most, if not all, had their NRX Moldbug/Nick Land phase as well. Most are university educated, were/are engineers, scientists, most probably from the CS crowd, some in the financial industry, I know one who works in AI research, a leaf who is a rocket engineer. So the KKK hooded guy looking at Mr. beer belly is just a ridiculous assumption. It’s especially misguided, because true believers will look down on and find Mr. Taylor just as reprehensible, no matter how soft spoken he addresses his audience in a suit. “Nazi in Nadelstreifen” is the German term the professional anti-racists of the media class use here.

    And the shot is that absolutely everything to reform the USA and “the West” from within has been tried. Many of these attempts embodied by those UNZ republishes:

    True conservatism and Paleoconservatism with Pat Buchanan? Failed. And defeated by the Neocons.

    Peaceful Libertarianism, connecting to the original ideas and ideals of the founding fathers with Ron Paul? Failed and shadow banned, so to speak, by the cathedral.

    Clean and respectable anti-Zionism that made it clear you are talking about ideology and not a Jewish race, primarily basing your criticism on human rights and democracy concerns? Mostly failed, although Israel has the worst optics on the planet and it is tolerated within the frame work of post WW 2 liberalism. I am not too optimistic. Although it has the most gains to show for from all the movements, it will never be able to break hard imperial and J power.

    The same is true for authentic Progressivism embodied by Tulsi Gabbard. Unlike the white nationalist fringe she actually had a movement to speak of, but was nevertheless clearly defeated by “the system”.

    And Bernie Bros? They also didn’t get their European style Social Democracy.

    There was also the civic nationalist populism approach backed by Zionist billionaires embodied by some catholic guy you may have heard of called Steve Bannon. It also failed and achieved almost nothing.

    White nationalism is something people didn’t start out with, but arrived at after a long process of disenchantment and I think most of us who grew up in the Pax Americana sphere were at some point united colors of benetton race blind liberals. It was the societal norm to be educate towards to. And I don’t think that the counter-movement could have been presented much better than by Alternative Hypothesis, Jared Taylor and many others. There were no Swastika tattooed Neo-Nazis who sabotaged it; the system itself did. Ultimately the ADL deplatformed you, the WJC sent Golden Dawn to jail and Moshe Kantor and Bibi made sure conservatism in Europe stayed kosher. Censorship and deplatforming also applies to a disconnected resistance in particular. I made viral memes, too. What of it?


    We live in an Age of Empires and from what I read the publisher/ chief editor of Affirmative Right seems to be a Scottish Nationalist. Well, the first thing that will happen, if Scotland gets a second referendum is that it will rejoin the European Union. Reducing oh so great Britain to England and Wales. Who won the war again…? Who could still own his entire Empire, if he had chosen the right side of history? But no, the Hun needed to be punished. Well, there you go.

    Likewise anti-colonialism was pushed by the US to “cuck” its European vassals, primarily the UK and France, to safeguard America as the sole superpower. CRT, white guilt and critical race studies all of these are radiations from your own psychological warfare department, primarily targeting my own country, to crush its spirit, after it had already been ripped apart and millions of innocent civilians deported and massacred in the process. It was the US which unleashed the Frankfurt School on Europe after they were banned and driven out of it by you know who. Did you complain about that? When the US tried to crush the German spirit, educate them towards self-hatred, shame and guilt? No? Even though it gave the pedo Greens justifications to abuse children in the name of anti-fascism, just like Wilhelm Reich, Magnus Hirschfeld and other Js taught? Because Hitler bad, right? Irredeemable, as you said.
    Well, mind viruses mutate as well and you cannot isolate them. So the blow back is so bad now, that your CIA director is ashamed to be a white male. And frankly it couldn’t have happened to a nicer state. Just this time not other countries but America’s own populace is the target of its colonization effort. The chickens are coming home to roost. Equally losing the white majority is the appropriate consequence for allying itself with Bolshevism to build its empire on the ruins of Europe. Which could have had an actual rebirth of the Roman Empire with Mussolini and Mr. Schickelgruber.

    Contrary to what many in the DR believe the US has effectively preserved its governing principels. Which includes its obsession with race in positive and negative qualifications. And if you have a problem with NS, well, you should send your complaints to the US and Anglosphere. Racial materialism? A mixture of Social Darwinism and British Empire colonial politics. Madison Grant and Lothrop Stoddard influenced the thinking of Hitler, Henry Ford’s The International Jew was the Bible of the Sturmabteilung, Jim Crow was the blueprint for the Nürberger Rassegesetze, the British invented the concentration camp, earlier it were Herbert Spencer and Houston Steward Chamberlain, then also Frenchmen like Arthur de Gobineu and eugenics was pioneered by the Dutch and Anglo-Saxons. The Anglosphere butchered the sacrificial lamb of Germany and then washed its own hands in innocence. It had finally found the right pig to cast its own demons into and drive it into the sea. Germany’s own endogenous racial metaphysics were anti-materialist and esoteric, one only needs to read Ernst Haeckel’s Kristallseelen to get a taste of the matter. They even hardly qualify as white supremacist much to the dislike of Anglo racial theorists. And the Nietzschean thirst for heroic war and death, the bloodbath to wash away the decadent and rotten civilization, born from ennui and modern nihilism, had saturated itself in the first World War. There was little romanticism about the actual war effort in the second one.

    America is like a giant rock that is rolling down a hill, crushing everything in its path, and I personally lost enough trying to help it correct its course, which is not possible, and the abyss is coming. And if it starts a world war with China, it will lose. The world wars it only won, because of its superior industrial capacity, resources and unassailable location, which China has, too. And Europe wont support a world war, but moves closer to China instead.

    On the one hand it is not right that the common people have to suffer for the crimes of the US elites, on the other hand the US empire has lasted long enough. On the one hand the US is the implicit last stand of global white supremacy, on the other it is also the most explicitly anti-white state in the world. And what we call globalism is actually just Americanization, Henry Kissinger said as much. And you cannot possibly hope for some kind of normalization through a hegemonic left. The “based” left of the Soviet Union was a result of the Great Patriotic War, in the US case ‘Trotzkism” won and the permanent revolution is as instructive as it is in power. The BLM and rainbow flag GAE is the US imperial mode. This toxic mixture of oligarchical hyper-capitalism, permanent Cultural Revolution and the late Soviet leviathan. You cannot just keep your head down, be left alone and raise your family in peace within such a system, hoping to remain internally untouched. And if anything is irredeemable since the Iraq War and the Summer of Floyd it is this system.

    I think the idea that you can hack the hegemonic culture and media with viral memes and alternative media has been refuted . So too ivory tower intellectualism, or cults. The hegemonic elite and their system cannot and does not wish to be reformed. What will end it is hard and not soft power. As for Evola: he was one of the first to visit Mussolini after his liberation from allied captivity, but it was capable soldiers who actually freed him, Otto Skorzeny’s commandos and one of my relatives among them. But if China sets limits to the GAE it might only drive its own aggression further inward. The radicalization of the US cultural revolution seems already a product of this frustration. The dawning realization that your ideological attractiveness has reached its peak and as in all crisis of faith, this civic religion which has become their substitute for God, the priestly class asks its zealots to believe and preach ever harder and drive out the heretics and those who have sinned against their “God” (=racists, anti-vaxxers and Putin shills). The replaced older white population blesses its own dispossession by becoming white allies in the destruction of its heritage, the professional class of the GAE reacts to its global replacement through China (Russia and the EU) by turning its holy crusade for civil rights and democracy on its subjects, becoming quasi-totalitarian before its fall.

    In my young life I have lived to witness the fall of the Soviet Union, I will live long enough to witness the end of the American Empire. Let’s hope that it won’t have to go through what Russia suffered in the 1990s and that it won’t drag down all of Western Europe with it. But I think even in Western Europe hegemonic US liberalism is slowly coming to its bitter end.

    • Thanks: antibeast
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