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Earlier by Ann Coulter: Register Maniacs, Not Guns: Mental Health Laws Let Loonies Wander Free

For us non-Americans (I live in Finland), the relative frequency of the school shooting phenomenon in the U.S (notwithstanding mass shootings in Hungerford, Dunblane and Tasmania) is something that we associate with America, like very loud customers or morbid obesity. As early as 2018, South Park made comedic hay with the predictability of American school shooting sprees

The most recent American shooting was at an elementary school. The cowardly police did nothing to stop it, refusing to intervene themselves and even preventing parents from trying to save their own kids [Onlookers urged police to charge into Texas school, By Jake Bleiberg et al., AP News, May 27, 2022].

Notwithstanding this policing failure, this atrocity has led of course led to calls for stricter gun control, with President Biden questioning why anybody should need the kind of military-level gun which the shooter employed. As he visited the school to pay his respects, the crowd impotently chanted “Do Something!” [Crowd calls on Biden to ‘do something’ during visit to Uvalde, Texas, in wake of school shooting, By Associated Press, CBC News, May 29, 2022].

But what should Biden do? Fortunately, there is detailed research on this very subject. In fact, it is surprising that this research has not been mentioned in the Main Stream Media.

Only last year, Prof. Ira Glick, Emeritus Professor of Psychiatry at Stanford University and his colleagues, published “Domestic Mass Shooters: The Association With Unmedicated and Untreated Psychiatric Illness” in the Journal of Clinical Pharmacology, Jul-Aug, 2021 .

Their findings provide us with significant hints as to the “something” that should be done by President Biden.

The study aimed to diagnose what had been psychologically wrong with America’s many “Mass Shooters.” As many of these had killed themselves, the researchers had to devise a retrospective study which would allow them to understand the workings of these men’s minds. They limited their study to mass shooting which had occurred in the US between 1982 and 2012 where 4 or more people had been killed and between 2013 and 2019 where 3 or more people had been killed. They employed the Mother Jones database, a database of 115 people identified as having committed a mass shooting, based on these criteria, in the U.S. between January 1982 and September 2019. (The database can be seen hereSteve Sailer described it as a “carefully curated list of the most stereotypical mass shootings” meaning that it omits random black gunfire with low body counts. )

Here they hit their first problem.

  • “In the vast majority of the incidents identified in the database, the perpetrator died either during or shortly after the crime, leaving little reliable information about their history-especially psychiatric history.”

Accordingly, the researchers focused on the 35 mass shooters who survived and who were duly prosecuted, because with these people there was an abundance of reliable information, such as psychiatric reports.

For each of these 35 mass shootings, they interviewed the forensic psychiatrists and forensic psychologists who had examined the perpetrators after the crime or who had collected the testimony and reports by psychiatrists at trial or in any other legal proceedings.

In addition, they

…reviewed available information from the court proceedings, public records, a videotaped interview of assailant by law enforcement, social media postings of the assailant, and writings of the assailant.

With all of this information, they made formal diagnoses.

After this, 20 further cases where the assailant died at the scene were randomly selected to see whether there were differences in psychiatric diagnoses and treatment between such assailants and those who survived.

So what did they find?

  • Of the 35 cases which met their criteria, they were able to make a clear diagnosis in 28 instances. Of these 28 cases, 18 were diagnosed with schizophrenia; that is 64% or two thirds.

So, it is only a slight exaggeration to say that the mass shooting problem is a schizophrenia problem.

Schizophrenia affects less than 1 percent of the US population, so, manifestly, the over-representation is enormous. It is characterised by psychosis (a loss of touch with reality and disturbed and disordered thoughts), persecutory and paranoid delusions, hallucinations, and specific negative symptoms such as “impaired emotional expression, decreased speech output, reduced desire to have social contact or to engage in daily activities, and decreased experience of pleasure” [What is Schizophrenia? American Psychiatric Association, 2022].

Of the remaining one third of cases, to give some examples, three had bipolar disorder. This can involve periods of intense negative feelings, which may be projected outwards. Two had delusional disorders, and one had Borderline Personality Disorder. (This is when, due to fear of abandonment, you lack a clear sense of self and you create unstable identity in order to cope).

When this sense of identity—Narcissism and the idea that you are perfect is an example—is challenged, then it induces intense fear and rage in you and you may try to find a way to reassert a sense of power and importance. (I have discussed this in more detail in my forthcoming book Spiteful Mutants: Evolution, Sexuality, Religion and Politics in the 21st Century).

Of the 20 spree killers who died at the scene, eight could be clearly diagnosed with schizophrenia, though, obviously, they had less information with which to make diagnoses. As the authors note, none the killers were taking any medication when they committed their acts.

So, in terms of the call to “Do Something” it would seem to follow that this should be assessing children, throughout their childhoods, for signs of schizophrenia.

We all sit on the schizotypy spectrum. A schizoid personality is marked a lack of interest in social relationships, a tendency toward a solitary lifestyle, secretiveness, emotional coldness, detachment, apathy, anhedonia and stilted speech. Schizotypal personality adds to this thought disorder, paranoia, social anxiety, and unconventional beliefs.

Schizophrenia and other mental disorders all seem to first manifest in late adolescence, with an average age of 19 [Age of Onset of Schizophrenia: Perspectives From Structural Neuroimaging Studies, by Nitin Gogtay et al., Schizophrenia Bulletin, 2011]. They are strongly genetic, but they are also elevated by stress [Schizophrenia in the Spectrum of Gene–Stress Interactions: The FKBP5 Example, by N. Daskalakis & E. Binder, Schizophrenia Bulletin, 2015].

Schizophrenia is elevated among immigrants, something which has been put down to elevated feelings of stress and exclusion [Stigma for common mental disorders in racial minorities and majorities a systematic review and meta-analysis, by O. Eylem et al., BMC Public Health, 2020]. VDARE.com’s Brenda Walker anticipated this i n her pathbreaking coverage of what appears to be a unique VDARE.com interest, Immigrant Mass Murder Syndrome.

In light of this, I have a proposal for President Biden which permits Americans to own guns and schools to be schools rather than fortresses: Detailed mental health checks for potential gun owners and, further, that nobody under the age of 25 should be allowed to own gun.

If people are seriously mentally unstable, this will almost certainly have manifested by the age of 25.

In that you cannot purchase alcohol in America until you are 21, I cannot see how 25 is an unreasonable age for owning deadly weapons.

Edward Dutton (email him | Tweet him) is Professor of Evolutionary Psychology at Asbiro University, Łódź, Poland. You can see him on his Jolly Heretic video channels on YouTube and Bitchute. His books are available on his home page here.

(Republished from VDare by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. bert33 says:

    Schizophrenia, or open hostility from a violent mind from a violent culture? whereas we here in the US are pretty much accustomed to the occasional dust-up or even fisticuffs, and when foreign warriors manifest themselves on our shores, no one is really sure what to do about it. Stop lying, call a pig a pig and a spade a spade, and when a teenager goes on a rampage and they’re going on a killing spree, shoot, already.

    Life is cheap in third world countries where wives are bought and sold and people are killed as a matter of course in the passing of the day’s events. Maybe its us with the problem, from being overeducated, socially indoctrinated, and largely insulated from the stresses and pressures they call ‘normal’ back home. We have gotten pretty tame in America.

  2. For the sake of the world, the schizophrenic United States should be prohibited from having a military, they have already killed millions for the Jews and elites.

    The United States is an insane asylum and the rest of the world has failed its duty to keep the nutcases from Hong or and doing massive harm at the behest of their Jew masters.

  3. Mr Dutton always interesting. This part made me actually howl with delight.

    We all sit on the schizotypy spectrum. A schizoid personality is marked a lack of interest in social relationships, a tendency toward a solitary lifestyle, secretiveness, emotional coldness, detachment, apathy, anhedonia and stilted speech. Schizotypal personality adds to this thought disorder, paranoia, social anxiety, and unconventional beliefs.

    I fit the bill to a certain degree, but have no desire to harm other people nor am I paranoid. Just leave me the hell alone and I’ll interact with you if I want to interact with you. It is amazing the lack of mental health exists in our societies. About 20 years ago I was feeling exceptionally depressed and contemplated going on anti-depressants. My mom, who was alive at the time urged me not to do it. She wasn’t a medical professional nor a shrink, but was coming more from a place of common sense – you’ll still have the same problems or situations, but you just won’t give a shit. They don’t solve anything. I am glad I took her advice with what I have read about anti-depressants. Yet shrinks all over America are prescribing these meds like candy.

    • Agree: houston 1992
  4. Ron West says:
    @JustBrooklyn Here

    You don’t even need to see a shrink to get anti depressants. General practitioners are happy to pass them out. Once you start taking them, very difficult to get off of them.

  5. Vinnie O says:

    Idiot, American citizens can be drafted into the gun-totting Army at 18. And in some States you can get a hunting license even younger than 18.

    The vast majority of homicides in the US are committed by men who are not White. So if we really wanted to try reducing homicides by reducing LEGAL gun ownership, the obvious thing to do is to restrict ownership to people of European ancestry.

    But of course most homicides by non-Whites are committed using an unregistered, illegally purchased weapon.

    If, however, the thing you’re attempting to control/reduce is shooting specifically in schools, well, simply have the Guidance Counselors identify the whackos. And then assign a security guard to follow each whacko whenever they enter a school building. At the first sign of trouble, the security guard then blows away his (or her) assigned whacko.

    • Replies: @Dutch Boy
    , @MrTea
  6. Dutch Boy says:
    @Vinnie O

    Disarming NAMs was the basic motivation of the stop-and-frisk policies in big cities that have been abandoned now. The cops were well aware that young male NAMs were committing the vast majority of gun crimes. The stop and frisk policies were not compatible with equity, alas.

    • Replies: @Silence Dogood
  7. In that you cannot purchase alcohol in America until you are 21, I cannot see how 25 is an unreasonable age for owning deadly weapons.

    America does NOT make any sense:
    You can drive a car before 16; you can join the Military at 17; vote at 18 (Dems want to make it 16), own a gun before 18; but you cannot drink if you’re 20; you must stay in school until you’re 17 but you can marry at 15…
    I could go on…
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    This is David Cole’s take on “mass shooters”:
    https://www.takimag.com/article/new-shooter-new-shooter-new-shooter/

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
  8. Dumbo says:

    Sorry, but this seems like bullshit or an attempt to promote even MORE medication against “mental illness” and harmful SSRIs.

    I met a few schizophrenics. While they certainly had paranoid minds and believed things that were not real, the idea that they would do a mass shooting is ridiculous. Some of them don’t even have the capability to function well in a normal job, but somehow they would be able to plot and execute a complex shooting, not to mention the courage to confront the police etc.

    The only way a schizophrenic could do a mass shooting is with FBI assistance. But then, maybe the FBI doesn’t need a schizophrenic and can do it themselves, just using the schizophrenic as a patsy.

    Also, it is clear that many of the medications for “mental illness” have problems of their own and in many ways make the situation worse.

    • Replies: @Thomasina
  9. Alrenous says: • Website

    Speaking of scholarly literature, you don’t learn anything in school. Not that you need a study for this. Teachers regularly mention how the students forget everything over the summer.

    As with all interventions designed to raise IQ, school’s effect largely disappears within one year, and entirely disappears within three years.

    How do you achieve a 12th-grade education? Skip every day of school until 18, then wait until 21. Bam, done. Cost to taxpayers: 0. Cost to student: around negative 15000 hours.

    15000 * \$15 min wage = \$220,000.
    Yeah if the government gypped me out of \$200 grand I might want to go on a rampage too…

    Not to mention that “stress” thing that seems to be relevant. Perhaps we could measure it in molarity-hours of cortisol.

    Great way to stop all school shootings: shut down the schools.

    [MORE]
    P.S. It’s particularly obvious to me that you don’t learn anything in school because my teachers didn’t know anything I didn’t already know. Learned about 3 things between kindergarten and grade 10, and in grade 10 it went up to like, 12.

    In fact, it is surprising that this research has not been mentioned in the Main Stream Media.

    By “surprising” of course we mean the opposite. The more relevant it is, the bigger the journalists’ allergic reaction. Got a nice dose-response curve.

    This is when […] you lack a clear sense of self

    That doesn’t sound right. When someone pokes you, you can’t feel it, because there’s no sense of [you] to feel poked? What?

    The cluster Bs are all disorders of intolerable self-hatred. Perhaps the borderline refuses to look at themselves because it only reminds them how much they hate themselves.

    Narcissists don’t believe they’re perfect. They believe they have to be perfect. They have to behave perfectly, otherwise a) you’ll notice they’re so very hateable or b) to make up for how horrible they really are inside. If you see through their mask to the imperfect person underneath, they have to kill you, before you (rationally, in their minds) kill them.

    unconventional beliefs

    Oh no, not unconventional beliefs! Say it ain’t so!
    Obviously only a crazy person wouldn’t say they believe everything the Empire of Lies tells them to say they believe.

    E.g. if you’re an immigrant the Empire tells you to believe you’re disdained and excluded. Obviously cracked to think anything else.

    Not to mention mass shooting remains a particularly American phenomenon whereas immigration is not particularly American.

    By contrast, the FBI, the CIA, and Hollywood are indeed very American.

    • Replies: @Vergissmeinnicht
  10. @Alrenous

    I actually do agree: There should be no Public Education.

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  11. They have done enough to stop these incidents, but, they can’t allow for idiot(not really) teachers propping doors open.

    Many people are going to earn a lot of money from re-building that school.

  12. Alrenous says: • Website
    @Vergissmeinnicht

    In reality school isn’t compulsory, so you can just not send your own kid. Doesn’t do anything about the cost to taxpayers since the school budget is like 80% administration, but you can save the kid the \$200 grand in time and probably another \$200 grand in stress.

  13. @Dutch Boy

    Pardon, but what is a “NAM”?

    • Replies: @Alrenous
  14. The article forgets to mention that nearly all cases of “schizophrenic” mass shooters are “schizophrenia” cases where the diagnosis is only made after the culprit had already entered the criminal justice system.

    Many defendants and lawyers will readily push for an diagnosis of schizophrenia or any other type of diagnosis that includes psychosis because they’re practically unprovable and, in the best case, can get someone out of prison in four or five years. It’s also convenient for normies, I suppose, to blame violence on a poorly defined concept such as mental illness.
    To kill someone is to be ‘mentally ill’. Well, actually no but that’s modern-day science for you.

    Accordingly, the researchers focused on the 35 mass shooters who survived and who were duly prosecuted, because with these people there was an abundance of reliable information, such as psychiatric reports.

    Yes, thanks to psychiatry, there are tons of people locked up for no good reason because a fraudulent report made by a subpar psychiatrist attests them some kind of anti-social personality disorder. On the other hand, tons of people are running around drugged up on all kinds of prescription medication. Maybe, the writer of this article should have looked into the correlation between mass shootings and the consumption of anti-depressants instead.

    • Replies: @Thomasina
  15. Alrenous says: • Website
    @Silence Dogood

    Non-asian minority.

    Referring to all races with lower IQs than western Europeans. “Minority” refers to being a minority in the context of a historically-European nation.

  16. Wokechoke says:

    Most gun violence in the US is black people. Stop these overly clever articles Edward, shame on you.

    Nobody in the US will or can do anything about this troubling population that does the vast vast bulk of the shooting and killing.

  17. Wokechoke says:
    @Vergissmeinnicht

    Lower the drinking age to 18. I think that is the real agenda from Dutton. It is odd you cant drink until 21 and can have a rifle though. But the vast vast majority of gun violence is just blacks. A troublesome people.

  18. ‘We Know These Mass Shooters Are Schizophrenic (And Immigrants Are Disproportionately Schizophrenic). Is Suppressing Schizophrenia the Answer?’

    Counting actual shootings, it would seem that suppressing blacks would be the answer.

  19. MrTea says:
    @Vinnie O

    At Parkland the security personnel were so familiar with Cruz they said “here comes the crazy guy”. The book “Why Meadow Died” by one of the dads of the victims explains all of this in ghastly detail. The Obama/Holder policy called PROMISE pressured locals not to do anything about “minority youths”. We only know anything about the case because DeSantis won the election; the deputy who ran away instead of going after the “shots fired” is going on trial for child endangerment this fall. Runcie the goon from Chicago imported to be Superintendent (thanks to Arnie Duncan) is indicted for perjury. All the networks except Fox ran away from this just at fast as they are running from cop incompetence at Uvalde.

  20. MrTea says:

    Re: the age issue, it makes sense to raise the age to 21 as 18 is not what it used to be. (California says no life without parole for anybody under 25 no matter how many you killed because your not fully developed prefrontal cortex might have made you do it).

    As for the schizo angle, BIG problem can be seen at the sites SSRIstories both dot net and org. Massive evidence the drugs cause violence. The Dayton shooter was on Xanax with cocaine on top of it; issue is erased from media due to gigantic ad \$ from Big Pharma.

    Constructive suggestion from someone with thousands of hours in K-12 education at all grade levels plus the sites where they expel the most difficult teens (AND the juvenile lockup):
    work on “baseline health”. These kids gorge on the worst junk food ever invented, designed to be addictive and horrific for every aspect of physical and mental well-being. You live on this stuff long enough it will MAKE you schizo (fits right in with the methnoids too).

    For “underlying conditions” how about Dr. Lustig (UCSF emeritus prof of medicine) “The Hacking of the American Mind” and his other videos on Youtube. We subsidize junk food with EBT!

  21. Thomasina says:
    @Dumbo

    Jordan Peterson just interviewed Warren Farrell (the author of The Boy Crisis) on the school shootings. Peterson said:

    “My understanding of their psychology is that they’re resentful, they’re low down on the status hierarchy, they’re not attractive to potential mates, they’re not necessarily very popular, and they don’t have any hope of attaining any of that in the future. So they’re very, very frustrated by that lowly position, and that makes them angry, makes them resentful.

    This starts to generate compensatory fantasies which would be: Well, I’ll do something. I’ll show them, I’ll show them. I’m going to be famous. Everybody is going to know who I am. (…) They want to be notorious.

    You don’t get to the point where you do something like shoot-up a school without hundreds of hours of fantastic dreaming about the event, about the day, and mostly about what’s going to happen afterwards and how your name is going to be on everyone’s lips.”

    These guys fantasize about the funeral, how sad everyone will be. Warren Farrell then said:

    “When we look at the six mass shooters in the 21st century who have been school shooters, all six of them for whom we know the family background, every single one of them were dad-deprived boys, including in Texas.”

    No talk of schizophrenia in this discussion.

  22. Thomasina says:
    @JustBrooklyn Here

    Smart and caring Mom who had a child who was smart enough to listen to her. Wish you the best.

  23. Thomasina says:
    @That one comment

    Excellent points! Schizophrenia “after the fact” in order to escape a long sentence.

    I remember watching a psychiatrist interview James Holmes (the Colorado theatre shooter) and several times he asked the shooter whether he wasn’t just angry when he went in there, angry at the world. Holmes denied this.

    When he left his apartment that day, Holmes had cranked up his music to high and rigged his apartment with explosive devices. He had even dyed his hair bright orange. Then, wearing tactical gear, and firing off tear gas, he proceeded to shoot up the theatre during a midnight viewing of The Dark Knight. Lots and lots of preparation ahead of time. It takes an organized mind to do that.

    I think the psychiatrist was correct, that James Holmes was angry. He felt a failure, didn’t have much of a social life, and he had become very bitter and resentful (see my post below regarding what Jordan Peterson says). He wanted people to remember him; he wanted to become notorious. As Peterson says, Holmes would have fantasized about this for a long time.

  24. @JustBrooklyn Here

    As I have said many times after some lunatic goes on a shooting spree, the media will dig in and give every minute detail of the shooter’s life, except for the cocktail of SSRI drugs the shooter was on, or supposed to be on at the time of the shooting.

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