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See, earlier, by James Fulford: To End “Unaccompanied Minor” Scandal, Start Deporting Illegal (And Irresponsible) Parents

President Donald J. Trump is rightly blaming Democrats for the deaths of migrant children who tried to enter the country, two in the past month. [2 migrant children died this month. But warnings were documented long before that. By Pamela Ren Larson, Arizona Republic, December 28, 2018]

In contrast, Karen Tumulty at The Washington Post grandly proclaims that “Trump’s tweets on children dying in U.S. custody are a new low.” [December 29, 2018]. But even her showy faux outrage shows President Trump is right.

Tumulty [Tweet her] claims migration is inevitable because people are “being driven from their native countries by poverty and violence…Until those forces are addressed, migrants will keep coming,” she proclaims, “even if it means taking greater risks to do so.”

But Honduras, Guatemala, El Salvador and other disasters will never reach America’s standard of living—at least not unless America’s standard of living is destroyed because its population is swamped by Central Americans. But of course, we aren’t allowed to talk about the reasons for that. And, anyway, Americans are already sending billions of dollars south, with nothing to show for it.

So really what Tumulty is saying is that migration will continue forever and there is nothing we can or should ever do about it.

Bunk. What’s actually happening is that incentives are in place for “migrants” to endanger their children by bringing them north. For example, the family of eight year old victim Felipe Gomez Alonzo brought him because they knew a child would increase the chances of getting into the country. [Parents of 8-year-old migrant who died brought boy for easier US entry, by Amber Athey, Daily Caller, December 27, 2018] Similarly, a seven year old girl who died earlier this month was just one of dozens of unaccompanied children in a migrant caravan. [DHS: 7-year-old migrant who died was not ill upon initial screening, by Amber Athey, Daily Caller, December 14, 2018] Even CNN reporter Dan Simon admitted that current law incentivizes migrants to bring children (to whom they may not even be related) to increase their odds of breaking into our country. [CNN reporter admits U.S. law entices illegals to bring kids to improve their chances, by Brad Wilmouth, NewsBusters, December 29, 2018]

Of course, it’s self-evidently absurd that any sick immigrants are being admitted to the United States. Lost in the Ellis Island mythology: the reality that the station always excluded sick people from entering the country.

Given unlimited numbers of invaders and scarce resources, tragedy is inevitable. Yet what is truly shocking: how these deaths are treated as sacrifices for the greater good by the Main Stream Media, celebrities, and the NPCs who slavishly follow the journalist/activists programming.

For example, the sister of Felipe Gomez Alonzo said the United States should return her brother’s body so he can be buried in Guatemala and also should “let her father work in the United States so that ‘my brother’s death won’t be in vain’” . [Official: Guatemalan boy who died in U.S. custody tested positive for influenza B, final cause of death remains under investigation, by Maria Sacchetti, Washington Post, December 28, 2018] Even the moderate Mark Krikorian is astonished by this “chutzpah.”

Apparently, these children are regarded as the equivalent of battlefield casualties, soldiers who fell in the justified invasion of the racist United States. Indeed, the “invasion” metaphor is becoming harder and harder to avoid, as yet another migrant caravan, this one comprising an estimated 15,000 Central Americans, is preparing to march against the southern border. [Another, bigger migrant caravan is set to leave from Honduras next month, by Wendy Fry, Los Angeles Times, December 27, 2018]

The MSM’s interest in cheering on this invasion, despite the casualties, is nothing new. The same kind of pattern emerged in Europe. After the EU and the United States destroyed the government of Libya and enabled endless migrant flotillas to Europe, thousands of migrants drowned. The victims were weaponized by journalist/ activists who argued for essentially unlimited immigration into the Continent, often as part of a larger agenda of unmaking Europe’s cultural and racial identity. Indeed, those who try to stop NGOs from transporting migrants across the Mediterranean, from activists like Lauren Southern and Generation Identity to the Italian government, are accused of wanting to let migrants drown.

Yet since the Italian government has cracked down on clandestine crossings, migrant deaths have dramatically fallen by more than half. [Boat migrants down 80 percent in populist Italy, up 350 percent in socialist Spain, by Liam Deacon, Breitbart, August 1, 2018] Conclusion: it’s the “nativists” who are saving lives.

Similarly, Australia was horrified by migrant drownings in 2010. But the country responded by refusing to allow illegal aliens to apply for asylum and stopping the boats, prompting complaints by anti-white reporters about Australia being “ruthlessly effective.” Yet this Australian alleged ruthlessness also saved lives, as migrant deaths plummeted because there was no longer an incentive for migrants to try to make the dangerous crossing. [Could Australia’s ‘stop the boats’ policy solve Europe’s migrant crisis? By Paul Farrell, The Guardian, April 22, 2015]

Yet these facts are apparently irrelevant to those setting policy.

One is reminded of Stalin’s supposed saying that “one death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic.” For example, the 2015 drowning death of young Aylan Kurdi, a Syrian boy who died while trying to cross to Greece, inspired countless charitable donations to “pro-refugee” organizations, emboldened pro-migration forces, and even led to policy changes. Yet Kurdi’s family had been living in Turkey for a year and could not be considered legitimate “refugees” under international law. The family endangered their son’s life essentially for materialistic reasons because there was an incentive to do so.

Pictured above, Aylan Kurdi, a child dead due to reckless parents, and Linda, a young Swedish woman beaten and raped due to reckless refugee policies. See also this, from the Nice truck attack: Pictures: Alan Kurdi, Killed By His Father’s Recklessness Got Much More Coverage Than A Small French Child Run Over DELIBERATELY

The quest for handouts in the West by greedy migrants, even at the expense of their children’s lives, is transformed into a heroic crusade thanks to emotional manipulation by MSM journalist/ activists. Just as Aylan Kurdi’s death somehow became the West’s fault, so is the death of Felipe Gomez Alonzo is going to be engineered as somehow America’s fault.

But the mourning is selective. The showy, overwrought displays of grief for children sacrificed for a bigger bank account are a stark contrast to the indifference and borderline contempt displayed by journalist/ activists for the victims of illegal aliens.


The latest forgotten victim: Ronil Singh, a legal immigrant police officer allegedly slain by one Gustavo Perez Arriaga, who was illegally present in the United States despite two arrests for DUI and known gang affiliation. [California authorities arrest, identify suspect and 7 others in officer’s shooting death, by Jay Croft and Amir Vera, CNN, December 29, 2018] A host of other illegals attempted to help the suspect escape the country.

Even more forgotten: 12-year old Clinton Howell, killed on December 18 by a Jamaican illegal infiltrator.[Court Documents Offer New Details on Killing of 12-Year-Old Bridgeport Boy, By Justin Schecker, December 27, 2018] Curiously, this has gotten absolutely no national publicity, although the victim (and the alleged perpetrator) were black. (American MSM coverage follows a predictable pattern: accused Tajay Chambers is an “18-year old” or a “Connecticut teen” even in Fox News, but an “undocumented Jamaican immigrant” in the Daily Mail and a “Jamaican teen” in the Jamaica Observer.)Yet the victim’s family eloquently protested the alleged killer’s illegality:

A native of Jamaica, Chambers has lived with family in Bridgeport for 16 months, according to his Public Defender. The judge confirmed immigration and Customs Enforcement has placed a detainer on him because he is not a U.S. citizen.

Hearing that was an eye-opener for the 12-year-old victim’s family, who asked for stricter immigration enforcement.

“Making sure you know citizens are here and basically you know not extending visas or illegal immigrants because stuff like this happens and they take American citizens lives,” said Dawkins.[ICE detainer placed on 18-year-old accused of killing 12-year-old Clinton Howell, by Tony Terzi, FOX61, December 27, 2018, Emphasis added]

Compared to the deaths of illegal alien children, these relentlessly occurring tragedies are apparently seen as simply unfortunate, random occurrences. They have no larger mythic significance or policy consequences.

Yet everything that is happening is the result of policy choices. As one sheriff investigating Singh’s death pointed out, he died because of California’s “sanctuary state” policy. [California sanctuary law under fire as policeman Ronil Singh’s suspected killer, an illegal immigrant, is captured, South China Morning Post, December 29, 2018]

It’s obvious that encouraging an unlimited number of poor people to undertake a dangerous journey will lead to terrible outcomes. This is especially true when their ranks include criminals, slavers, and opportunistic human smugglers.

If Democrats were concerned about the lives and safety of these migrants, they would insist on strict border security and providing enough resources to law enforcement before there is even a discussion about what to do with asylum seekers or migrants of any form.

Yet caravan conspirators, journalist/ activists and foreign governments keep sending “migrants” a.k.a. infiltrators forward, like human wave attacks.

It is an attack—a war against America. To those who want to deconstruct our country, casualties—even children—are acceptable losses.

And the invasion won’t stop until either Americans summon the will to stop it—or until America is eradicated altogether.

If it ends with the latter, then the only question is where Americans themselves can go as refugees—especially, as the experience of the Afrikaners proves, no one is going to be writing sob stories about us.

James Kirkpatrick [Email him] is a Beltway veteran and a refugee from Conservatism Inc.

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  1. Rational says:


    Thanks for the article, Sir. I agree with you.

    If a man down the street were to burglarize homes, he is evil, and belongs in jail.

    If he trains his children to burglarize homes, he is double evil, and belongs in jail, for life.

    If he incites his neighbors to burglarize homes, like the Judaists who run alien invasion aiding and abetting organizations, as detailed in a recent great article by Mr. Joyce, they are triple evil, and belong in jail, for life, if not more.

    How dare an alien think that he will train his little kids to burglarize and invade the world’s only superpower and get away with it? He and his kids morally and legally belong on death row, for is this not an act of war, nothing less, against the world’s sole superpower?

    OK, we are more humane. Electrified border walls will do for now.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  2. wayfarer says:

    Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth.


    Truth About the Migrant Caravan

    Eastern Europe is Showing the Way

  3. Most of the “refugees” coming to Australia first came through several counties that were safe for them but without the standard of living here. Most came via Indonesia which allowed them to enter the county with a clear understanding that they were not tourists and were heading for Australia with the intention to bypass legal methods of entry.

    This enterprise has cost Australian taxpayers billions of dollars and Australia simultaneously gives Indonesia very generous foreign aid. The “refugees” were required to produce documentation to enter Indonesia but almost all papers were conveniently lost before entering Australia where they are promptly given housing the like of which they could never have attained in their home countries. Add to that generous subsidies and it’s no wonder that this country has run up huge deficits even during booming economic times.

    Too many Australians are convinced that diversity is a good thing. Being a migrant myself, I cannot argue for it to stop but there is no sense in bringing in so many unproductive people from the third world when future problems can be envisaged without having great foresight. It is tokenism anyway since so many more could be helped in their home countries rather than indulging a few “lottery winners” here.

  4. I would bet anything that those two kids were picked up from orphanage.
    Behavior of those “parents” are clear indication of it!!!!!!!!

  5. Puzzled says:

    “Honduras, Guatemala, El Salvador and (all the other) disasters (at attempts at being nations) will never reach America’s standard of living—at least not unless America’s standard of living is destroyed because its population is swamped by Central Americans (africans, asians, and arabs).”


  6. Biff says:

    But Honduras, Guatemala, El Salvador and other disasterswill never reach America’s standard of living

    Because, if they even try, the CIA will overthrow their government, and private corporations will loot anything of value. Them pricks don’t stand a chance!

  7. The life of one of my great grandfathers, around 1880, an illiterate peat worker, he was an orphan, was little or not better than the life of a liberated slave in the USA, at the time.
    Going somewhere to get a better life at someone elses expense was not possible at the time.
    My great grandfather learned reading and writing in prison, where he was three times for poaching, the only way to get some meat on the table.

    As going somewhere else for a free better life was not possible Dutch workers at the time organised labour unions, succeeded in getting voting rights, organised strikes, and created educational societies, education for grown ups, important items politics and economy.
    Another great grandfather was a local chairman of such a society.

    Life in the Netherlands improved, my great grandfather in 1913 was so affluent that he had a farm built.
    Peat working he had left long before, of course, he had become a cattle trader.

    When one sees the migrants on tv and in pictures, what I mainly see are healthy looking young men.
    What I see here in the Netherlands the same, I always wonder why these people do not work.
    But the most important question for me is, why do we not say to these people ‘improve your own country’ ?

    Venezuela could be reasonably prosperous without oil, the soil is very fertile.
    Sensible Venezolans know this, as one of them said ‘my garden could feed us’, but it is not possible, what he grows gets stolen.
    Cannot see what responsibility we have for Venezuela now.

    I see two possible strategies for our policies towards poor countries: tell them that they must improve their countries themselves, or re introduce colonialism.
    Large scale migration will just result in making the whole world poor, and the destruction of the European cultures, the cultures that succeeded in making themselves prosperous.
    Also the cultures that invented how to use energy, from the steam engine to the fission reactor.

    What motivates those who, implicitly or explicitly, try to destroy the European cultures, I do not know.
    Both Macron and Merkel yesterday evening uttered the same old platitudes, if they believe their own words, more and more my conclusion is that they do.
    Macron is finished politically, yet he tries to continue his policies.
    Democracy is great, but it has its dark side, just after an election you see what you’ve got.

  8. @Rational

    Do not think so.
    Crossing the Mediterranean is a high risk operation.
    Now that this crossing has become more and more impossible, ships bring migrants to Spain and Portugal.
    From there they go to the Channel coast, there is just some 20 miles of sea to cross.
    This they try in inflatable rubber boats.
    GB already has transferred guard ships from the Med to the Channel.

  9. eah says:

    Trump and his administration have handled this entire ‘caravan’ issue badly, eg by repeatedly saying the ‘caravaners’ are trying to enter the country illegally when they have a right to apply for asylum, and the US is legally obligated to duly consider their applications — also by dumbly using the ‘caravans’ as an argument for a wall — most ‘journalism’ about the issue has been no better — this piece gets points for including the graphic saying (correctly) that the ‘caravaners’ are generally not entitled to asylum.

    An overabundance of poverty and ordinary criminality has never been, is not now, and can never be seen as grounds for asylum — Trump should declare countries in Central and South America ‘safe’ for asylum purposes, which they are — this would make it possible to very quickly reject nearly all of the asylum applications, after which the people could be sent back across the border — if the US did this, Mexico would stop all future ‘caravans’ — guaranteed.

    Also, the US must ASAP conclude a third party ‘safe country’ agreement with Mexico, which would obligate asylum seekers traveling thru Mexico to apply for asylum in Mexico, and also obligate Mexico to stop future ‘caravans’ (Mexico is not obligated to do so now) — reaching such an agreement should be a precondition for any future aid to Mexico — this will stop such ‘caravans’ once and for all.

    Ultimately, all white western countries must withdraw from the international treaties legally requiring them to accept applications from people seeking asylum — widespread abuse of that process is accelerating the migration-driven demographic destruction of these countries.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  10. Ah, tell me about policy choices. I live in the northeast US in an area that is swarming with illegals. A few years ago I lost a cousin, a middle-aged stockbroker, who was stabbed in the heart with a letter opener during an invasion/robbery by an illegal Mexican. After the murder, the Mexican and his girlfriend scored some crack then spent the night dancing. After capture, the girlfriend sang and got off, the Mexican is doing life at a cost to taxpayers of $50k per year.

    Better living through chemistry was a lie, just ask any opioid addict.

    Better living through diversity is a lie.

    I wonder what lies they’ll be throwing at us this new year.

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  11. “Indeed, the ‘invasion’ metaphor is becoming harder and harder to avoid, as yet another migrant caravan, this one comprising an estimated 15,000 Central Americans, is preparing to march against the southern border.”

    Indeed … fiction, “Camp of Saints,” has become reality. Jean Raspail, decades ago, saw this coming.

    Interview with Raspail:

  12. Anonymous[146] • Disclaimer says:

    RaHoWa! This planet is all ours!

  13. But murrica is destroying the world…

  14. The “refugee” crisis is developing a momentum which could be difficult to stop, or reverse. I regard the “caravans” as nothing more than a battering ram which is intended to destroy America’s will to resist an invasion of economic migrants. I am dismayed at the attitude of the MSM, which appears to want open borders, without regard to the consequences.

    It is true that under John Howard, and later under Tony Abbott, Australia was able to stop the boats. However, the present government faces an election in the first half of 2019, and it is almost certain that Labor will win. Their leader is Bill Shorten, an apparatchik who would have felt at home in East Germany in the 1950’s, and he may need the support of the Greens to form a government. The Greens believe in open borders, and it is likely that the people smugglers will be back in business within a few weeks of the election.

    If America falls, and is flooded with hundreds of millions of people from the Third World, what do the whites do? They will face the same dilemma as the whites who remain in South Africa: they can stay and fight, or flee. If the latter, where do they go? Britain is too crowded already, and Europe is likely to be part of an Islamic caliphate within a few years. Australia would be a suitable refuge, but a Labor government would probably prefer a flood of people from Black Africa, rather than white Americans, even though they have so much in common with white Australians.

  15. @eah

    Also, the US must ASAP conclude a third party ‘safe country’ agreement with Mexico, which would obligate asylum seekers traveling thru Mexico to apply for asylum in Mexico, and also obligate Mexico to stop future ‘caravans’ (Mexico is not obligated to do so now) — reaching such an agreement should be a precondition for any future aid to Mexico — this will stop such ‘caravans’ once and for all.

    Build a wall, build a fence 10 metres beyond it, put a minefield between the two, and put automated gatling guns every 100 metres along it. This will be more effective and less costly than relying on our foreign partners to do anything that benefits us, and when Congress realises just how big this new defense system is and how it benefits their bigger donors, they might actually get behind it.

    The teeming masses will only stop coming when we show we as a nation have resolve and aren’t a bunch of pu***-hat wearing buckets of emotion.

    • Agree: Stan d Mute
    • Replies: @eah
  16. Unlimited illegal immigration is a Zionist designed play to destroy America from within and to make America a third world country and so meld America into the Zionist NWO!

    Zionists control the U.S. government and are the Trojan Horse ie the enemy within that is promoting illegal immigration to weaken the constitutional government of America, the enemy is not at the gates the enemy is within the government and its name is ZIONISM!

    Read The Controversy of Zion by Douglas Reed and The Committee of 300 by Dr. John Coleman and watch his youtube videos and also read The Protocols of Zion.

  17. @jilles dykstra

    “I see two possible strategies for our policies towards poor countries: tell them that they must improve their countries themselves, or re introduce colonialism.”

    Neither will work, and for a fairly simple reason: Average IQ in immigrant source countries is somewhere between 83 and 65
    Not even the US Army can get people with an IQ of 83 or less to do something useful to the Army.

    People with an IQ in the 83 to 65 range can’t do anything economically productive in an industrialized economy. THEY CAN’T WORK, THEY CAN’T GET JOBS!!!!
    And they’re human. Europeans with IQ in the 65 range are handicapped. Africans with an IQ in the 65 range are perfectly functional. Higher mammals with IQs in the 20 range are perfectly functional. An adult dog of a smart breed has about the intelligence of a European 2 year old child, which would give it (at age 10) an IQ of about 20 (human mental age/calendar age). The dog isn’t dysfunctional at all, _but_ the dog also can’t hold down a paying job in an industrialized economy.

    This IQ constraint poses a real problem, one to which nobody has an answer just now, despite trying the obvious remedies for well over a century. Low IQ populations can’t support industry (see what happened to Zimbawe after it tossed out the Europeans). However, colonialism subjected them to domination by people they could never hope to emulate, and therefore decided to emasculate (sounds almost the same) instead. This is a standard primate reaction to strange primates, and one that we won’t soon change. (Supposedly H. Sapiens is the only primate species in which unrelated males can work together without fighting, sort of, but that’s the best we can do just now). Having ejected the Europeans, the Africans are now in the early stage of ejecting the Chinese.

    Not that IQ is the only measure of a human, of course. You have to remember that quite a few IQ people are also proud warriors (the Masai, for a strong example) and aren’t really interested in working for other people when they know deep down that it should be the other way around.
    Old song from Greek classical civilization,
    “The Song of Hybrias the Cretan”
    (Rough translation, following L. Sprague de Camp)

    I have a sharp sword
    and I have a long spear
    and a stout bull hide shield I carry before me.
    I plow and I sow and I reap with this gear.
    The peasants all bow and the women adore me.

    Original Greek:

    Your asking, in many cases, an ancetral warrior race to give all that Hybrias described in favor of a makework job that nobody cares about. They may just say “No” and go back to what they know.

    In short: (a) it’s harder than it looks, and (b) we’re running out of time to solve it.


  18. @VirtualAnon34

    Anti-stab tabbards are looking increasingly attractive.
    Bullet Proof NIJ IIIA Plus Stab Proof Body Armor Vest should get you through most attacks. Masses less than 2 kg, about $400 give or take. Hot, and you look a bit bulky. Also doesn’t protect head of neck or arms or legs, and doesn’t work against acid or gas attacks, so it’s only effective if you’re licensed for a concealed carry weapon and carry the _heavy_ weapon (and ammunition) around everywhere, _and_ keep a sharp watch and have immediate action drills all set to go at all times when you’re outside a secured area. In exchange, you get maybe a .75 chance of living through a serious attack. And you need legal insurance also — several vendors offer guaranteed legal defense for any weapons use, although they can’t guarantee a successful defense. There is also a rather non-intuitive pattern of steps you supposedly must execute right after the attack to keep the legal system from destroying you (“Win the gunfight, then win the court fight”. There’s also training and practice, both expensive and time consuming.

    Actually, simply dying and getting it all over sounds better now — at least its simpler.

    Sounds like I’m kidding, but the above is what it takes to go beyond relying on statistics to protect you.

    Good thing we’re not in the 1950s, when all the above wasn’t necessary.


    • Replies: @Ragno
  19. Agent76 says:

    Here is food for thought for individual thinkers and researchers.

    December 28, 2018 The Deaths of the Two Immigrant Children Could Have Been Vaccine-induced

    (Don’t trust the ORR, the AAP, the CDC or the ACIP to tell the truth about ANY vaccine-induced or drug-induced iatrogenic disease).

    December 28, 2018 The Deaths of the Two Immigrant Children Could Have Been Vaccine-induced

  20. Agent76 says:

    December 19, 2018 Mortality rates rising for Gens X and Y, too: Reduced US life expectancy is not just the Baby Boomers

  21. @Vox Australis

    It is much harder to immigrate to a nice developed country like NZ or Australia than most Americans think.

    In my youth, I tried. I applied everywhere. There is a great deal of anti-American sentiment. Canadians are not sympathetic whatsoever.

    White Americans have no idea how trapped they are. If things become a three-way race war between Hispanics and blacks and whites, they will be trapped.

    Career expats like myself have spent a lifetime making contacts overseas and staying employed abroad; I was careful not to marry or have children in the US, in order to be able to remain an expat.

    The Jews of course can go to Israel. Bubble city whites with 200 K can get into other countries.

    But the average working class white guy in Arizona who discovers he cannot sell his house and is trapped? Forget about it.

  22. rgl says:

    An article comprised of bullshit, mainly. Yankistan de-stabilizes South America on a continuing timeline, and then moans and drips at the consequences. Diddums.

    You can spout all the spew you wish. It will NOT alter the fact that America’s woes are ALL of America’s doing. No one else.

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
    , @Wally
  23. Ragno says:

    Good thing we’re not in the 1950s, when all the above wasn’t necessary.

    Those terrible, horrible, repressive 1950s!

    In the name of sanity, if nothing else, the next thing some smug NPC liberally seasons his defeatist sophistries with this bogus truism about Tha Eeevil 1950s, beat the living daylights out of them on the spot.

    If we can’t or won’t turn back the horde of locusts swarming our way, for pity’s sake, let us at least exert an onerous price from the policy-fixers and influence-peddlers who have been cultivating and guding that swarm every step of the way.

  24. @Jeff Stryker

    What is wrong with you?
    You are starting to speak more and more nonsense.
    If there would be civil war (which I am convinced will never happen in US) than neither Mexican, or Blacks would last more than a week.

  25. Near the end of 1989 GHWB invaded Panama with a massive force and killed over a thousand innocent Panamanians in order to capture one man: Manuel Noriega. It was an unjustified slaughter. Where was the press outrage then? Now two sick kids die on the border due to parental neglect and, naturally, it’s all Trump’s fault.

    It’s OK to bomb and kill them in great number while they are in their own countries, but it’s not OK for even one to die while trying to enter this country illegally. The Globalists, dominated by rich Jews and their MSM puppets, have led the US to where it is today.

    Andrew Jackson would have put American troops on Mexico’s southern border to stop the invasion whether the Mexicans liked it or not. It used to be a justified use of force to stop an invasion of one’s home land. Times were better before we had instant modern technology and propaganda, designed to undermine any Nationalist action not prior approved by the white-hating Globalists.

  26. @Jeff Stryker

    If things become a three-way race war between Hispanics and blacks and whites, they will be trapped.

    You are right. They will be trapped in here with us. Working class white guys have the ability to carry out mass destruction.

    Just face it Lil Jeffy, you are a coward. Your fear has caused you to die a thousand deaths.

  27. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    After reading the wiki Charlotteburg story about the confrontation between white supremacy and coloured people my conclusion was, and of course still is, the USA civil war already began.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
    , @Wally
  28. @Counterinsurgency

    Neither will work, and for a fairly simple reason: Average IQ in immigrant source countries is somewhere between 83 and 65

    Income per capita in the Dutch Indies in 1940 was reached again in the seventies in Indonesia.
    A relative of mine was a plant manager in a S African factory with nearly exclusively local workers.
    It functioned for thirty years.
    Low IQ workers simply need good management, that is: close oversight.
    Then they can perform simple work.

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  29. @jilles dykstra

    ” What motivates those, who implicitly , try to destroy the European cultures”

    What “motivates” them is their own insanity, they are all basically communists and crazy, and the ones on top assume that they will be running things when it ( communism) finally is in place.

    Look until the non-communists finally start addressing basic problem and that being the fact that an actual war is being waged upon them by the PTB, by the billionaire leftists, things will just get worse and end up at the breaking point.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified sine 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro jazz artist.

  30. @rgl

    ” Yankistan de-stabilizes South America on a continuing timeline”

    Yeah of course the instability down there has nothing to do with their own corruption and the insane leftists such as in Venezuela.

    You are out of your fucking mind and have no clue as to what you are blathering about.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US army vet, and pro jazz musician.

  31. @Vox Australis

    ” The greens believe in open borders”

    The “Green” movement” started in the source of all evil : Germany, the nation of “Dichter und Denker” : Thinkers and poets as these megalomaniacal fools see themselves.

    Germany : Psychology, Heroin, Communism, “Bauhaus”, “Frankfurter Schule”, one destructive concept after the other and the list goes on and on,plus nobody has the guts to address this phenomena.


    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  32. @jilles dykstra

    That was “Charlottesville.”

    And those young whites were just “nationalists” or perhaps some were “white nationalists,” very few, I think, would consider themselves “white supremacists.”

    And the confrontation was initiated by far left Antifa and the like – most of whom were white.

  33. @follyofwar

    Thanks for setting things straight, as in the deranged leftist worldview, anyone who is not a bonafide leftist is then automatically viewed as a “white supremacist”, as a “Nazi” and of course as a racist.


  34. Wally says:


    “Every time we do something you tell me Americans will do this and will do that. I want to tell you something very clear, don’t worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it.”
    – former Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon

    “Jewish power is the ability to get us to stop talking about Jewish power.”
    – Gilad Atzmon

  35. @follyofwar

    And those young whites were just “nationalists” or perhaps some were “white nationalists,” very few, I think, would consider themselves “white supremacists.”

    For me, from the other side of the Atlantic, cannot see much difference, or must say, have never seen good definitions that make the differences clear.
    I also think that for their opponents the differences hardly exist.

    A Dutch journalist living in France reported about the different French, groups and cultures within France.
    A young Muslim woman with a head scarf in the Paris banlieue St Denis formulated it quite simply ‘the French do not see us as french’.
    Just Muslims against French with a christian background, unimportant if they’re real believers, or have a say Spanish or Italian migration background.

  36. @Authenticjazzman

    source of all evil : Germany

    Please explain what evils the Germans perpetrated.
    Having been brainwashed since 1945 is not their fault.

    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
  37. @Wally

    Anything wrong with the wiki Charlottesville information ?

    • Replies: @Wally
  38. @jilles dykstra

    Right. Still not as simple as it seems, as recent events in South Africa suggest. Here’s what I think is going on:

    If you accept that IQ is normally distributed, take IQ as the mean, and 15 as the standard distribution (there are good arguments for a standard deviation of 12 for the population under discussion, but 15 gives more optimistic results, so let’s use that) you get this table:

    Population IQ % of population with IQ over 83 % unemployable, IQ under 83
    ……..65 …………………………..12…………………………………………88

    Not completely accurate, but it gives some idea of the problem.

    That is, the people in your cousin’s factory were the elite of their population. OK, so your cousin hires the elite and they take care of their relatives (which poor people do worldwide, and the extended kinship of most African groups tends to support). Everybody is happy.

    Except, in real life, they are _not_ happy. What they see is people they cannot understand (IQ gap is too great) bossing the best of them around at tasks incomprehensible to the bulk of their population. They also see that the bulk of their population _isn’t_ being hired, again for reasons they don’t understand. See the Vietnam video in my previous post, esp the lecturer’s attempt to communicate things like lobbing a grenade.

    The end product is that (a) the unempoyable part of the population will be bitterly resentful because it’s being denied its just reward, its “social justice” to use the technical term, and (b) the employable part of the population will be resentful about being bossed around _and_ having to work while their relatives take all their money. Since they can’t understand how this could happen. We start with a low IQ, remember, which means a high IQ gap. To see what such a gap does to people, imagine how much you’d understand if you had a dozen relatives dependent on your income and the only job you could get was working for Linus Pauling and had to help him with chemistry research, understanding almost nothing of what he did or why he was paid for it. You’d be talking about “They get a lot off money just to sit on their ass, but they’ll never have the knowledge of the Working Class” within a year.

    The Left now speaks no more of the European proletariat, but does speak to the low IQ lumpen proletariat. Given a large IQ gap between whites and POC, the Left will ascribe it to “white privilege” or “theft” or, well, Tom Leher put it best:
    They called it impiety
    and impropriaty
    and quite a variety
    of unpleasant names
    T. Lehrer, “Poisoning pigeons in the part”, available on YouTube.
    and even if it weren’t the Left, the local historic population would figure it out on their own. There isn’t a primate on Earth that doesn’t understand what strangers in his territory mean, even conspecific strangers of his own species.

    Next, these descendants of many generations of warriors who managed by luck and fighting to avoid becoming slaves to other warriors will decide that they should rectify things, putting the incomprehensible whites out of the picture and reverting to problems that they at least understand. Ad just because their IQ is low, that doesn’t mean they’re disabled when it comes to fighting. They may be less capable than European troops of, say, Desert Shield times, but there are a heck of a lot of them and they are no more disabled than are lions, which have an even lower IQ. See Lanchester’s Law, in Wikipedia, for what that implies.

    And this has clearly happened, in the former Rhodesia, the present South Africa, and just possibly throughout the Western world. Here’s one of the more sentimental protest songs:
    https://youtube/W_eIYcH29_s?t=61 The older ones, which speak extensively of killing all the whites, aren’t on youtube anymore.

    Funny thing is, all sides in this fight are white supremacists in that they assume what is usually called “white superiority”, in the sense that that whites managed to make and live in a society in which IQ 83 or below people can’t earn a living and which they can’t even understand! The difference is that the whites want to pretend that this state of affairs doesn’t exist, and the low IQ groups want to make the problem really not exist by eliminating the group that maintains it.

    If you think of “white privilege” in the above terms, the POC complaints make sense (although East Asians have somewhat different motives). They are faced with a society to which a substantial fraction of them _cannot_ belong, and it just _won’t go away_.

    And who can blame anybody in this unholy mess? The whites just want everybody to get along (a long what?) the way they do. The others also want whites to get a long, a long way off that is, so life will make sense again. All basic human emotions.

    So, as I say, it’s a difficult problem. You run into emergent problems that actually worsen as the standard of living goes up.

    As a borderlander, I have zero influence and tend to look at the whole affair in terms of threat analysis.


  39. @Chris Mallory

    (Warning: not a nice vidie)

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  40. @Counterinsurgency

    That is, the people in your cousin’s factory were the elite of their population

    My relative did not see his workers as elite, quite sure.
    There was a word in S Africa for indestructable tools: Kafferproof.

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  41. Wally says:
    @jilles dykstra

    “Anything wrong with the wiki Charlottesville information ?”

    For starters, Zionist controlled Wikipedia article describes it as a “white supremacist” rally.

    Do you ever read anything you cite?

    concerning Charlottesville:

    “We have been working on the ground and behind the scenes leading up to, during, and after the rally.”

    – Zionist Jew Anita Gray, regional director of the Anti-Defamation League.

  42. @jilles dykstra

    Your cousin didn’t see them as elite, but their own population did. Elite and maybe part foreign from working in the alien environment. Typically an anti-colonial insurgency tries to control or destroy those of its own ethnic group that work with the foreign group. The idea is to control your own side before confronting the other side. Aren’t any good guys in that game.

    I can see why special tools would be necessary. In my expereience, most people use only the smallest fraction of their tool’s capabilities. Micrometers are for the very few who need them and can avoid breaking them.


  43. Prusmc says:

    Mc Namara’s Moron Corps or project 100,000. Remember it well, not with fondness.

  44. densa says:

    Well done, Mr. Kirkpatrick.

    Two comments. One, regarding the sick children. There is an emerging new disease called EV-D68. It is very serious causing non-polio polio. It is contagious and a threat to our children. It has emerged in this country as a much more serious disease than it was because we let sick people bring new strains into our country. We’ve mixed and matched strains and now face a new polio disease.

    Oddly, Democrats do not seem to care about our children – at least not if they’re white.

    Second, if the next assault group is estimated at 15,000, yes, that is an invasion. Who knows how big the expected larger assault groups at Easter will be. The people facilitating this slow-motion invasion need to be investigated and shut down.

    Trump needs to get tough with Mexico, especially since American corporations down there wouldn’t want to see their profits crimped. Build the wall using the military. Shut down the border if Mexico lets that mob approach. Get some of those spiffy posters like Australia put out saying you must apply for asylum at an embassy. Yes, I know there’s a law, and it needs changed, so strong arm Mexico into making these trespassers claim asylum there. No aid, no trade, no cross-border business as usual.

  45. bucky says:

    The GOP right also bears some blame. They go to great lengths to prevent abortion funding. Why are there so many poor desperate poor people in the first place? Idiot right wingers banning abortion is a big reason why.

  46. onebornfree says: • Website

    “….Arguments about immigration will always be with us. But it’s important to understand that the real issue isn’t freedom for immigrants – it’s your freedom.

    Immigrants will continue to stream into this country, legally or illegally, so long as there’s a Welcome Wagon waiting at the border – offering free education, free health care, free welfare and a free lunch. We need to put the Welcome Wagon out of business, so only people looking for freedom will want to come here.

    Until then, no law, no policy, no border patrol will stop the flood of illegals.

    Whose freedom is at stake?:

    Meanwhile, new laws to limit immigration will affect you considerably. You may think those laws will keep America pure, but they will succeed only in taking more of your liberty.

    Think about it. How will the government root out people who are in this country illegally? By checking their papers, of course.

    But how do they know whose papers to check? They don’t. So they’ll have to check everyone’s papers – including yours.

    That means more invasions of your privacy, higher taxes, more corruption in law enforcement. The police will be allowed to stop you at will and ask for your identity card – and to search your property without a warrant, checking your car or home to see if you’re harboring illegals. Your employer will have to take more of the money available for wages and divert it to filling out forms and complying with bureaucratic inspections. The red tape also will add to the prices of the things you buy.

    And all the while, the people you thought you were keeping out will continue to show up to tend your yard and wash dishes at the local restaurants……..”:

    From ” The Immigration Scam ” :

    Regards onebornfree

  47. A native of Jamaica, Chambers has lived with family in Bridgeport for 16 months, according to his Public Defender. The judge confirmed immigration and Customs Enforcement has placed a detainer on him because he is not a U.S. citizen.

    The question is how did he enter the US from Jamaica, and would a wall have stopped him?

  48. Idiot right wingers banning abortion is a big reason why.

    Who’s the idiot bucky? Where is abortion banned?

    • Replies: @bucky
  49. bucky says:

    Every GOP president signs it. It leads to an increase in 3rd world births.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  50. @Chris Mallory

    I enjoyed a higher quality of life overseas not riding the bus 1000 times waiting for the next outburst or fearing blacks and Hispanics on the street.

    You die 1000 deaths in the US as a white working class man watching your property decline to nothing because Section 8 is built down the street and your neighborhood becomes a crack house.

    You die 1000 deaths when MS-13 moves into your city. You die 1000 deaths when your daughter has to attend a public school because you cannot afford private school tuition and the principal calls you to tell you a 16 year old black felon who is still in the 9th grade has sexually assaulted her.

    You die 1000 deaths when your property values are worth nothing, like my grandmother’s condo in Detroit which cost $400,000 in 1986 and sold for $70,000 twenty years later (And my brother would call me long distance to tell me we were lucky to get that much).

    If you lived overseas, you’d be amazed how your quality of life improved. I was.

    Living your entire life as working class white guy in the US in the urban or exurban hellscape totally sucks ass, Mallory. And I know, because I did it to the age of 25.

    I feel lucky to have spent my life in relatively crime-free countries.

    Never had to worry about a Cholo or a Hoodrat or Tweaker again.

    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
  51. @Counterinsurgency

    You’re clearly not American, so what difference does it make to you?

    A few 14 year old Chavs or Bogans in your city center are the worst you have to worry about in UK or Oz (Where you are from).

    As for the video itself, when 9 black or Hispanic thugs jump a single white prisoner, there is very little the toughest white guy can do. Enjoy watching prison flicks but don’t drunk drive in the US and hit someone if you ever visit the US.

    When I was in London, someone actually warned me about the dangers of Pakistani and Bangladeshi youth. To an American who lived in Detroit and Phoenix, they were a joke. Seeing East Indian kids imitating US ghetto blacks almost made me laugh at them.

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  52. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    How would a Russian or Belarussian woman know?

    I mean you have not been to the US, have you?

  53. @follyofwar

    Thirty years ago Gen X whites had better things to do than fight blacks in the street during the LA riots. They were too busy buying houses, pursuing their profession and making money to care whether blacks burned down their crack houses and liquor stores.

    Gen Y whites have nothing better to do than fight in the street over flags because they live at home at age 28, have no profession, no family, nothing to do. The average age of the Leftist Soros-funded “student” is 30 years old.

    What is pathetic is that the blacks whom Carl the Cuck is defending would not cross the street to urinate on him if he were on fire. The blacks, Mexicans and gays whom Social Justice Warriors fight in the street over do not give two rat’s asses over them.

  54. Until people here are honest about why these people are fleeing their homeland, don’t expect anything to change. These people are fleeing for the same reasons the people of Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Sudan, are fleeing. Maybe when our Govts. and Corporations stop invading and destroying these peoples homelands, they will be able to stay at home, instead of fleeing to America or Europe. This isn’t hard to figure out for anyone with a brain. Watch John Pilgers films, he has done many on what is really going on in Latin America, Asia and the Middle East. You can watch them free on his website, Vimeo and Youtube. Educate yourself and stop being a hysterical lunatic screaming about invaders and white genocide, Jeez Louise some of you folks need therapy.


    • Replies: @eah
    , @eah
  55. @Jeff Stryker

    It’s so nice to hear that Australian and New Zealand immigration officials made at least one good decision then, in denying you residence. With so much anger and hatred towards your own kind, Dubai would seem a perfect place for you and the US, Australia and NZ all benefit from not having you around. It’s a win for everyone. Thank you for the uplifting comment.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  56. @NoseytheDuke

    American air traffic controllers who immigrated to Australia in 1981 after Reagan broke their union had a great deal of anger and something like 20,000 immigrated to Australia.

    It is not so much politics but depends upon your niche skill at that moment. New Zealand at the time needed many sheep vets circa 2000 when I applied.

    However New York mobsters had enough money to immigrate to Melbourne and expand the Italian mafia because of the number immigrants there.

    And I would say that the Sudanese and Turks pouring into Oz have a great deal of anger.

    So did the Vietnamese boat people towards the US.

    In comparison, one American white working middle class guy who wanted to live in a nice Cranberra suburb instead of the US urban hellscape of screeching geeks and criminals is small potatoes.

    The point is that when the average white American scratches his head and says “Maybe I should leave America” he is unaware of how difficult this process is.

    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
  57. eah says:

    For some people, no matter the question, evil whitey is always the answer.

    Until people here are honest about why these people are fleeing their homeland

    We know the reason: the genetic endowment of the human capital in these countries, including low average IQ, means they have trouble creating and maintaining modern civilization, including economic prosperity and opportunity.

    During WWII, Germany and Japan were bombed into wastelands — their human capital enabled them to rebuild — they didn’t ‘flee’.

    Liberia became independent at the same time California became a state; compare/contrast — do the same for eg Iceland and Haiti.

    The important questions here are: Do they qualify for asylum? — Should they be admitted as immigrants? — Will admitting them as immigrants benefit the US? – the answer to all of these questions is ‘No’.

    • Replies: @eah
  58. eah says:

    And btw, views as expressed in your comment are part of the reason the Alt-Right is isolationist: not only do we want to free ourselves from forced ‘diversity’ (and the lies about it), we also want to eliminate all such excuse-making for NAM dysfunction.

    • Agree: follyofwar
  59. eah says:
    @The Alarmist

    Sie sind realitätsfremd.

    You seem to be what the “libtards” call a “Trumptard” — in any case, while I share your goals and sentiments, you clearly do not understand the legal framework within which the ‘caravan’ was organized and is operating, nor the distinction between immigration and asylum.

    Migrants traveling to US sue Trump, government

    A recent PBS report cited former Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, who ruled in 1993 case that “it is well established that the Fifth Amendment entitles aliens to due process of law in a deportation proceeding.”

    If those backing the ‘caravan’ push this lawsuit, it will certainly be successful; the main reason is as I said earlier: the US is a signatory to treaties requiring it give applicants for asylum a fair hearing (leaving aside any Fifth Amendment/constitutional issues) — Mexico is not currently obligated to stop them from traveling thru its territory in order to apply for asylum in the US.

    Recall the difficulty Trump had in doing simple things within his purview as President, ie the (temporary) ban on immigrants from certain countries.

    What I outlined is the only sustainable way forward — ultimately, the US must rid itself of the obligation to accept applications for asylum.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  60. @Jeff Stryker


    Well, you’re right about 9 to 1 odds. “When the odds are three to one, even Hercules would run.” The short was impossible as filmed (glass doesn’t break that way, and hot oil is not kept near the food line), but it did show the effect of all out offensive and ruthless use of improvised weapons. The idea was to distract the opponent long enough (block first punch, deliver bloody nose attack) and then do something decisive. Note that the entire offensive was planned after the protagonist saw the hot grease and presumably identified it as decisive weapon. My post was in response to a suggestion that civil war, if it came, might be far more brutal than anything in the present generation’s experience. Granted that it was a sort of boast, it _also_ made the brutality claim. My post was an attempt to illustrate what an all out offensive can accomplish, and why brutality might be extensively employed.

    Whenever I am tempted to guess at somebody’s secret identity, I remember this scene:

    and don’t do it.


  61. @eah

    Why hasn’t Mr. Trump signed his promised Executive Order banning Birthright Citizenship (BC)? Was it just a ploy to try to maintain a GOP a majority in the House? If so, it didn’t work.

    BC has never been ruled on by the Supreme Court, but it was never such a critical issue as today. Many maintain that the 14th Amendment’s intent, passed after the War of Northern Aggression, was just to ensure that freed black slaves were automatically citizens. Combine BC with the 1965 Hart-Celler Act, and it is not hard to conclude that this country has been on a long self-destructive path.

    Banning BC by executive order is just as important as controlling the border. No matter that banning BC would be overturned by a lower court. It should be fast-tracked to the Supreme Court – and pronto. We natural born American citizens have the right to know if our fabled Constitution is a Suicide Part or not.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
    , @eah
  62. @follyofwar

    oops. That should have been “Suicide Pact.”

  63. eah says:

    I have no idea how to explain Trump’s behavior eg vis-a-vis his campaign rhetoric etc — he has seriously disappointed many people who voted for him, including Ann Coulter, who now regularly savages him on Twitter — personally I cannot see voting for him again.

  64. onebornfree says: • Website

    Food for thought, perhaps:

    “I suspect the I.Q., SAT, and school grades are tests designed by nerds so they can get high scores in order to call each other intelligent…Smart and wise people who score low on IQ tests, or patently intellectually defective ones, like the former U.S. president GeorgeW. Bush, who score high on them (130), are testing the test and not the reverse.”

    Nassim Taleb :

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  65. @Jeff Stryker

    I enjoyed a higher quality of life overseas not riding the bus 1000 times waiting for the next outburst or fearing blacks and Hispanics on the street.

    I own a truck and have owned my own vehicles since I was 16. Only a fool depends on public transportation.

    You die 1000 deaths in the US as a white working class man watching your property decline to nothing because Section 8 is built down the street and your neighborhood becomes a crack house.

    Every piece of property I have ever owned was worth more when I sold it than when I bought it.
    No Section 8 within miles of me.

    You die 1000 deaths when MS-13 moves into your city. You die 1000 deaths when your daughter has to attend a public school because you cannot afford private school tuition

    Gangs haven’t gotten much of a foothold around here. A few from Chicago tried to come it. The local sheriff took care of them.
    I am able to afford to send my daughter to private school. The tuition is lower than what the state gives the public schools per student. Her school in in the top 3 in the state for ACT scores. So they are doing something right.

    condo in Detroit

    Doesn’t say much for your family’s IQ if they let a member buy a condo in Detroit.

    If you lived overseas, you’d be amazed how your quality of life improved. I was.

    I would lose the rights my ancestors fought for and gave to this nation. My family has been here since 1650. I am not leaving for any reason. I live a pretty good life.

    Living your entire life as working class white guy in the US in the urban or exurban hellscape

    There is your mistake, only a rat lives in a city. Probably a good thing you left since you don’t have enough sense to understand that.

    Never had to worry about a Cholo or a Hoodrat or Tweaker again.

    I don’t worry about any of them now. Besides I am a free American, so I am always armed. No worries about minorities from me.

  66. @jilles dykstra

    Germans worked to destroy Traditional America once they started coming to the US in the 1840’s. We should have sank every ship bringing those filthy hordes to our shores.

    • LOL: follyofwar
    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  67. @Jeff Stryker

    The point is that when the average white American scratches his head and says “Maybe I should leave America”

    The Average American is not a coward who runs from his home.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  68. @bucky

    Yet planned parenthood gets funded.

  69. @onebornfree

    I talked with Taleb once, recently, briefly, at a conference. He regards conversations as contests, and is quite ready to use rhetorical devices to get a win rather than dialectic to get understanding.
    Now, if he’d said that IQ tests don’t measure everything important, he would have been right. For example, his use of “nerds” implies that social exclusion is important (a belief which is quite strong in the Middle East). He might have said that a specific range of IQ is necessary for participation in a particular field, but he did not. (Ideal football coach: smart enough to do the job, dumb enough to think that it’s the most important thing ever. One could say much the same about contemporary engineers.)

    So, his statement comes down to: I don’t like smart guys, and I’m going to socially exclude them (starting with you if you give me any lip). No surprise there, that’s the conventional attitude in the West just now.


  70. @Chris Mallory

    Socialism was fairly popular in Germany under Bismark. Supposedly this comes from German family structure, which requires a strong Father figure who controls his family (extended family) and is responsible for its prosperity. By analogy, the ruler is also directly responsible for his subjects.

    Germans were considering revolution in AD 1840 (which is about a generation after the Napoleonic Wars fought with the French), and would actually have a revolution in AD 1848 ( The revolutions of AD 1848 ( were general and, in Germany and the East, intended to enforce the iconoclasm, or “Liberal Values”, of the French Revolution. It was characterized by an attempt to replace medieval institutions (such as guilds) with less restricted institutions (such as private businesses). Order was to be maintained by a strong central government with a single ruler, one that would enforce a fair playing field (stop laughing! They didn’t know what would happen.) This was consistent with the French Revolution, but not with the much earlier Glorious Revolution of the English.

    I believe that Mallory’s point was that the German immigrants, 1830 on, favored the ideas behind the German’s AD 1848 revolution rather than the American Revolution, which was descended from the Glorious Revolution. The Germans (and French) were appalled that the English system was distributed. They wanted a centralized system, with a single person they could complain to. I’ve seen complaints that German immigrants played a significant role in Reconstruction, but not more than that. There actually seems to be a media / literature blackout on that topic, possibly a holdover from the anti-German propaganda and historical revision during the two World Wars. Perhaps Chriss Mallory could give us more information.

    • Replies: @eah
  71. eah says:

    Socialism was fairly popular in Germany under Bismarck.

    Germany is today a socialist country — it is only nominally capitalist — this is something most people do not realize — the type of socialism in Germany today is achieved via the extreme application of marginal taxation of capital and labor — eg they provide healthcare for everyone by making working people pay a percentage of their income in health insurance premiums — it is the same for the ordinary income tax — ‘Tax Freedom Day’ in Germany is during the third week of July, which is amongst the latest in the world.

  72. @Chris Mallory

    What is so great about the home of a working middle class white? Talk to any black retiree in the Philippines. Ask them why they moved there.

  73. eah says:

    Liberia became independent at the same time California became a state; compare/contrast

    Liberia: independent since approx 1850 — Whites are not allowed to be citizens (look it up) — behold the result.

  74. Hunsdon says:

    I am finding that I really enjoy your comments, Counterinsurgency. Many happy returns!

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