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Our country seems headed for a political crisis, with the enemies of Deplorable America making noises suggesting they are planning a post-election “Color Revolution”-type coup against Trump. As a long-time Russia-watcher, I suggest that the failed Soviet coup of 1991, and the collapse that it spurred on, is instructive.

The Soviet State Committee on the State of Emergency, August, 1991
The Soviet State Committee on the State of Emergency, August, 1991

The key point that year came when Soviet military and security units refused to move against Boris Yeltsin and his defenders. Could something like that happen here, with Trump playing the Yeltsin role?

What yours truly has dubbed the globalist Blob has been signaling for some time that it has no intention of yielding to Trump come election day. Hillary Clinton, in her guise as the post-American Madam Defarge of the present Cultural Revolution, h as even stated publicly that Joe Biden should not concede the election to Trump “under any circumstances.” [Morning Greatness: Hillary Clinton Says Biden Should Not Concede ‘Under Any Circumstances’, by Liz Steele,, August 26, 2020]

Meanwhile, the Democrats, with help from rabid Never Trumpers like Bill Kristol and David Frum, have been “wargaming” scenarios for preventing Trump from taking office should he win, developing a plan for what Trump has correctly described as “an insurrection.” [The Billionaire Backers of the ‘Insurrection’, by Julie Kelly,, Sep 14, 2020] The plan is to claim that Trump has stolen, or attempted to steal, the election. “As far as our enemies are concerned,” as I wrote here last month, “they are on the right side of history, and neither election law nor the Constitution or any antiquated notions about fair play will stop them.” [Revolution and Resistance: How can elections continue?, American Remnant, September 4, 2020]

The mail-in balloting plan plays into the Blob’s wargaming. If the Democrats can’t swing the election their way by hook or crook, then the lengthy process of accounting for all the mail-in ballots could be used as a means to sow confusion and chaos, giving them room to maneuver in the aftermath of Election Day.

The Blob’s minions have been signaling their intention to drag out the vote count. Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer, for example, declared on Face the Nation that her state would not be held to any “artificial deadlines” for reporting election results. [MI Gov. Whitmer: No ‘Artificial Deadlines’ for Announcing Election Results, by Jeff Poor, Breitbart, October 11, 2020] In an example of the psychological projection characteristic of Democrats, Whitmer further claimed that those who might want to expedite the vote count had “political agendas.”

Meanwhile, the Blob’s militant wing has been circulating a plan for post-election disruption. [READ: Left-wing Radicals Post Online Guide to ‘Disrupting’ the Country if Election is Close, by Joel Pollak, Breitbart, October 12, 2020] A Leftist group calling itself ShutDownDC [Tweet them] plans to prevent a Trump “coup”—more projection there—by shutting down the country and forcing Trump out if the vote is too close to call. The plan calls for “sustained disruptive movements all over the country.” The militants also state that they intend to demand that “no winner be announced until every vote is counted.”

ShutDownDC further proclaims that it has no intention of allowing the country to return to normal. The goal is to “dismantle” what it calls “interlocking systems of oppression.”

This isn’t just about an election—it’s a blueprint for completing the Left’s anti-American Cultural Revolution.

In the chaos that appears increasingly likely after Election Day, we may not even have a clear idea of what happened–-and, indeed, that may be part of the Blob’s design.

In a recent segment on “Critical Race Theory” gaining traction at the Pentagon, Tucker Carlson wondered just why the Left was so intent on capturing the military.

My answer: the Blob was contemplating the possibility of using the military as part of an attempt to block a second Trump term.

It’s quite clear that the top military brass has been subject to “the Great Awokening” and Trump Derangement Syndrome as much as the rest of the federal bureaucracy. The military Establishment has steadfastly resisted Trump’s inclination to disengage from foreign interventions. Moreover, the Pentagon has also resisted Trump’s order to stop indoctrinating its personnel in “Critical Race Theory.” [Trump’s Anti-Critical Race Theory Order is Necessary But Insufficient, By Timon Cline,, October 5, 2020]

In his book Rage, Bob Woodward reports that former Defense Secretary and retired Marine General James Mattis once commented to then Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats that “There may come a time when we have to take collective action” against Trump, since Mattis deemed the president “dangerous” and “unfit.” [Mattis told Coats Trump is ‘dangerous,’ ‘unfit’: Woodward book, by Tal Axelrod, The Hill, September 9, 2020]

It’s likely that General Mattis’s view of Trump is widely shared among top level military officers.

So how might the military figure into the Blob’s wargaming plans? Peter van Buren has contemplated a post-election scenario in which a “temporary” military government might be pitched as the only way to break an electoral deadlock and end post-election disorder. [What if Trump Won’t Leave The White House? The fearmongers are at it again, this time with their mantle-holder Biden, warning of the coming dictatorship., American Conservative, June 30, 2020] Van Buren reminded us that Trump’s opponents have never accepted his legitimacy, that “RussiaGate” was good practice for them—good practice for a coup, that is—and that they are gearing up for an all-out effort to dislodge him from the White House.

Obama, Comey And Eric Holder In The White House
Obama, Comey And Eric Holder In The White House

Van Buren further noted that Joe Biden, who has claimed that it is Trump who “is going to try and steal this election,” has also stated quite plainly that if Trump refuses to leave the White House, he is “absolutely convinced” that the military would “escort him from the White House with great dispatch.” [Biden: Military Will Remove Trump From the White House if He Refuses to Leave, by Julie Ross, Daily Beast, June 11, 2020]

It’s worth mentioning that van Buren is not a Trump supporter, was a career foreign service officer, and is an honest man, an Iraq war whistleblower who wrote an excellent book, We Meant Well: How I Helped Lose the Battle for the Hearts and Minds of the Iraqi People, on his experiences in that country. I reviewed it here). He does not believe that a Pentagon-backed coup is merely “paperback thriller material.” It’s a plausible scenario.

Nevertheless, an attempt to use the military to block Trump’s re-election could result in the coup plotters stepping into a trap of their own making.

This is what happened in the failed 1991 coup attempt in the Soviet Union.

On August 18, 1991, with Mikhail Gorbachev preparing to sign a treaty that would have decentralized the Soviet Union, his hardline political opponents in the Soviet leadership arrested the father of perestroika at his Crimean dacha, proclaiming that the Soviet State Committee on the State of Emergency was in charge.

The conspiracy against Gorbachev had been organized by KGB Chairman Vladimir Kryuchkov, Defense Minister Dmitry Yazov and six other top level political and security officials. They were alarmed by Gorbachev’s reforms, which had already loosed centrifugal forces in the USSR that threatened the power of the Communist party and the Soviet apparatus.

But within three days, the coup attempt collapsed.

Boris Yeltsin at the Russian White House, August 19, 1991.
Boris Yeltsin at the Russian White House, August 19, 1991.

The coup collapsed because of resistance by then-Russian Federation President Boris Yeltsin and his supporters, and the refusal of elite military and security units to move against them.

On August 19, Muscovites gathered at the Russian “White House,” the seat of Russia’s parliament in central Moscow, and erected barriers around it. Boris Yeltsin climbed atop a tank to address the crowd. Yeltsin condemned the State Emergency Committee as an unlawful gang of coup plotters and called for military and security forces not to support the “Gang Of Eight.”

Major Sergey Yevdokimov, a battalion commander in the Tamanskaya Division, had already declared his loyalty to Yeltsin (hence the tank on which Yeltsin made his historic stand). Yevdokimov later said that early on he had decided that he would not fire on any Russian citizens. As his battalion approached the “White House,” one of Yeltsin’s supporters climbed on Yevdokimov’s tank and asked him to come over to their side. The major made his historically-significant choice, setting in motion events that would help thwart the coup.

KGB special forces units never appeared at the scene. When the planned assault on the Russian “White House” (“Operation Thunder”) failed to materialize after a brief skirmish, it was clear that the coup was over. This was quickly followed by the collapse of the Communist party and the Soviet administrative apparatus; and the dissolution of the Soviet Union.

That was an enormous surprise to the majority of Western Kremlinologists at the time.

Of course, the situation in the U.S. today is not exactly analogous. For starters, Trump is operating in a hostile environment (“the Swamp”) dominated and controlled by his enemies. The generals are not on his side. It seems unlikely that a large group of citizens from the DC area would quickly materialize to support Trump against some sort of military-backed coup.

It’s possible, however, that Trump may not even be in Washington when a coup is set in motion. This would leave him an opportunity to do what he does best—hold mass rallies to fire up his support base in “Deplorable” areas of the country.

Both “red” and “blue” areas across the country are already effectively separating, threatening secession from the United States and practicing nullification. The as yet inchoate Middle American resistance has shown it is capable of fighting back. [Organizing Middle American Resistance: Who Will Take the Next Step?, American Remnant, July 31, 2020]

If general disorder and a deadlock over the elections acts as a cover to deploy military units, it raises the same question Soviet officers and men were faced with in August 1991: Would the “boots on the ground” obey orders?

Trump may be disliked by top-level officers. But my sense is that he is popular with the rank-and-file. What if a significant number of them refused to obey a clearly illegal order? It may take only one Major Yevdokimov refusing unlawful orders for the whole plot to unravel.

The Deplorables have good reason to think the Blob will rig or otherwise reverse the election results. The past four years have already taught them that. And the Blob’s Main Stream Media arm has been hard at it selling the Narrative of Trump stealing the election. The Democrats’ base appears to be ready and willing to accept drastic measures against Trump and the Middle Americans they loathe.

The potential for a seismic political crisis is clear.

What we are witnessing is what I’ve called “the end of politics.” [Chronicles, May 2019] American elections are becoming more like the zero-sum games they are in the undeveloped world—and were to some extent in pre-modern Britain. A post-election crisis, especially a force majeure situation precipitated by military intervention, would accelerate the centrifugal forces already at work in the United States.

The failure of a coup attempt could do to the Democrats’ “Coalition of the Fringes” what the failure of the August coup did to the Communists in the USSR—opening up room to maneuver for what I call the American Remnant and calls the Historic American Nation.

Given the circumstances, with the demographic ring closing in, that may be a providential outcome.

Wayne Allensworth is a Corresponding Editor of Chronicles magazine. He is the author of The Russian Question: Nationalism, Modernization, and Post-Communist Russia , and a novel, Field of Blood. He writes at American Remnant.

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  1. Alden says:

    I’m not as optimistic as Allensworth. Only one escort of the elites moved against Gorbachev in 1991. Most of the rest held back. That allowed elite sector 2 to help Yeltsin resist. Plus, the Jew Wolves of Wall Street swarmed in. So there’s that.

    The military the rank and file is heavily black, especially the career sergeants petty officers who really carry out the officers orders. I think the Hispanic and White tank and file will stay loyal. But follow orders from the anti White officer corps and black sergeants

    Consider the French Revolution. It didn’t start till most of the officer corps were revolutionary masons. The National Guards were revolutionary and so were the judges and lawyers.

    Every elite sector from the clergy through academia media professions and occupations education both unions and employers Chamber of Commerce Association of manufacturers nurses teachers Drs. Engineers construction probably big Agricultural which is all that matters any more. Every organized group is against Trump

    All Trump has is us individuals maybe half the adult population but just unorganized individuals The Republican Party is organized but just as anti Trump and anti White as the most hysterical liberals and Democrats.

    Vindemann Jew immigrant colonel inserted into a position where he could get General Flynn charged wit crime and the elected president impeached. There’s Millions of Vindemanns in tactical and strategic positions all over the country in every sector. The anti Trump anti White revolutionaries already own media and communications

    I hope I’m wrong. But what’s been happening in America for the last 56 years and the acceleration since 2016 fits the pattern of every successful revolution in the last 500 years.


  2. Kirt says:

    There are a lot of different ways a coup attempt could go, but I’m glad the author even brought up the subject for discussion. The wanna be golpistas are not only discussing it, but planning it, as the author points out. A coup might go in the Russian direction and lead to the relatively peaceful dissolution of the USSA. Dare we hope? Or it might be a complete success with Trump and Pence murdered or disappeared and interim President Pelosi sworn in by November 5. Or there might be various degrees of success and failure leading to long and bloody civil wars and mass slaughter, including genocide. The US elite is eager to impose on its own subjects what it has been imposing on people around the world for generations.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  3. nsa says:

    The tribe has made their duplicitous decision. The yid ticks squeezed all they could out of their pathetic vain crooked asset, Donnie the Dummy, and have now deftly switched to a new host, Depends Biden. Impossible you say? The groundwork has been carefully layed. The present Biden wife’s maiden name is Jacobs, and three of his offspring married jews. For thousands of years, distrustful allies always cemented tribal bonds through marriage, lessening the odds of treachery. And as an insurance policy, the tribe has the Hindu Dindu, Kamala, who is also married to a jew, waiting in the on-deck circle. So all you mouth breathing rubes have been had again…..and you didn’t even get a crappy border fence out of the deal. It’s no wonder the tribe has such contempt for the populace between the coasts. They must be laughing their kosher asses off………

  4. Anon[194] • Disclaimer says:

    “ Could something like that happen here, with Trump playing the Yeltsin role?”
    Let me answer the question differently- yes, because Trump is like the US version of Yeltsin. Kapish?

    Apologies to those with type 2 TDS.

    • Replies: @Floda
  5. It would have been much better for Russia if the 1991 coup had succeeded.

  6. Juri says:

    Soviet Coup failed because of miscalculation of the Elite. They thought that they only ignite the spark and millions of people coming to the streets to defend communism. As we know, nobody showed up.

    Coup in the top is never enough. Massive grass root support is also needed, especially in the large country where is impossible to run all things from capitol. Will small towns and counties obey ?

    How loyal low level apparatus really is ? Talking BS and mild corruption is one thing, commit serious crimes is another. Tanks were on the streets all over the Soviet Union. But following order to move tanks is nothing but actually shooting people is something much more serious.

    Your bureaucracy may react as our one. In words, they all were rabidly anti Gorbachev. When the day came, they freaked out, most of them did not attend the workplace, lot of them cut office phone lines and used other tricks to stay away . Let the other people do the dirty job.

    Also people in the US look like they don`t want violence. There are no millions on the streets fighting for climate or George Floyd or whatever. Violent groups are small and their actions are very limited. Also there are no rally cries. Who the hell want to die in the battlefield for homosexuality or other garbage. Talking BS to advance the career…yes. But seriously believe and be ready to sacrifice own life….nononono…:D

    • Agree: Drew, Twodees Partain
    • Replies: @Drew
    , @Achmed E. Newman
  7. I respectfully disagree.

    Trump has the unanimous support of law enforcement. In such a crisis officers are no longer constrained by rank and file and will be free to side with average citizens against the filth and vermin that have mocked and threatened them for months. Unlike the insurgents, law people have families to protect and there is no greater motivating factor.

    Most patriots have long suffered in silence and have reached their breaking point. They, unlike the youthful and spoiled revel rousers and revolutionary wannabes have endured hardship and persevered. At the first sign of blood and real battle, the Anyifa mob will become shell-shocked and retreat in disarray.

    Patriots have silently prepared snd are willing to die for family, country, and way of life. They are largely more self-sufficient than the mob, who – when their supply chain is cutoff financially and materially- will be unable to persist in the coming winter. There is nowhere left for them to hide other than mommy basement, absndoned wal-marts, and deserted universities.

    The end for them will come soon— Witness Chaz, occupy wall street, Minneapolis. Starvation, anarchy, and extermination will be the result when these mobs either self-destruct or are hunted down and executed by the completely contemptful American populists.

  8. What’s missing from the author’s analysis is that “the military” isn’t just the Generals and Admirals, and not just the active duty personnel. There are literally millions of combat veterans, including some fairly good officers, who would not stand by while there was a military Coup d’etat in progress.

    Yes, there will be a lot of dying, if the US military was foolish enough to support a Coup, against the citizens. However, I guarantee you, the POLITICAL leadership of the Communist affiliated socialists, will be the first to die.

    The idea of an armed Coup against a popular US President, with military veterans fearfully hiding in their collective basements, is so much ignorance by the Democrats, I can’t begin to tell you. If Mattis and other generals rumored to support such an “intervention” are actually part of it, they’ll be hung by these military citizen-vets, before the government can convene their Article 32 hearing.

    Again, this isn’t blowhard “militia” bunk; I know of what I speak.

  9. GMC says:

    Very good article Comrade, and I can see a bit of a Soviet collapse, but unfortunately I also see , No White hat guys in the Military or any other place that looks like, they are going to save the day and kick out the Zionists, the foreign lobbyists, the thousands of treasonists, etc. etc. etc. and bring back the good ole USA or change it for the good. . And still,the majority of the world is addicted to those Американский Dollars, that keep rolling off the Jewish printing presses.

    • Agree: Alden
  10. Tom says:

    I’m afraid I agree with you. I’ve known for decades that the USA was headed for civil war, but you seem to have nailed it. Gramsci’s “march through every institution’ applies here. The comparison with 1991 Russia is a hopeful shot-in-the-dark. I’m afraid that the writer does not gauge the venomous
    capabilities of those who seek to burn “Trump’s America” to the ground. The devil is loose in the country and all the MAGA Winston Smiths will soon be jackbooted right into room 101 of the Ministry of Love.

  11. Anon[362] • Disclaimer says:

    The way I see it, either;

    A: Trump wins in a no-question landslide.

    B: The coup scenario plays out. American’s don’t fight back and America continues it’s increasingly fast decline into ruin.

    There will be no civil unrest from the right unless one or more of these occur:

    Guns grabbing
    Forced vaccination
    Forced internment
    Foreign troop landings

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
    , @BB753
  12. Franz says:

    If Mattis and other generals rumored to support such an “intervention” are actually part of it, they’ll be hung by these military citizen-vets, before the government can convene their Article 32 hearing.

    Very much agree.

    America has millions of citizen-servicemen who got out but stayed patriotic. And more importantly stayed armed and ready. I know Korean vets who are still spry enough to fight if it came to that, not to mention legions from the Vietnam years plus all the wars of THIS century. That’s a big load of tried and trained manpower.

    Civilian Democrats are not aware or don’t care about this. They might be in for a surprise if they push their weirdness too far.

  13. Trump may be disliked by top-level officers. But my sense is that he is popular with the rank-and-file. What if a significant number of them refused to obey a clearly illegal order? It may take only one Major Yevdokimov refusing unlawful orders for the whole plot to unravel.

    Despite concerns expressed above about the ethnic makeup of the US military, I’d agree with your take, especially since the most elite of the elites are heavily white and Deplorable by birth, and they would make short work of your run of the mill grunt who chose to go along with the coup.

    To paraphrase Stalin, how many divisions do the generals really have?

    • Agree: Hegar
  14. @Alden

    Nearly every local, state and national Fraternal Order of Police and Organizations of Sheriffs have endorsed Trump for President. That is a pretty good start to having an organized group behind him. The National Rifle Association is another muscular group that I’d want on my team. I would side with them in a fight before I’d worry about “Every elite sector from the clergy through academia media professions and occupations education both unions and employers Chamber of Commerce Association of manufacturers nurses teachers Drs. Engineers construction probably big Agricultural which is all that matters any more.” The revolution isn’t going to be fought in the faculty lounge. And why would builders side against one of their own, Donald Trump?

    “Vindemann Jew immigrant colonel inserted into a position where he could get General Flynn charged wit crime and the elected president impeached. There’s Millions of Vindemanns in tactical and strategic positions all over the country in every sector.”

    Vindemann had nothing to do with Flynn being charged. That was ordered by Obama and carried out by Comey & Company. The “impeachment” was a farce put together by that schmo Gerry Nadler, that crazed witch Pelosi and pencil neck Schiff. It was a kangaroo court in the House and the Democrats presented probably the weakest argument possible to try to remove Trump from office. “Contempt of Congress.” Under that idea, the House leadership should be impeached for “Contempt of the President.”

    Your assertion that there are “a million Vindermanns” betrays a extremely limited view and understanding of how things work, a total ignorance of organizational structure and the fact that in 2020 there only 1,400,000 active personnel in the military. Your assertion is an extremely immature and childish understanding of our country’s military manpower.

    You are absolutely wrong to try to ascertain loyalty by racial mix or ethnic background. Consider the high favorable given to Trump in the Black and Hispanic Communities. Soldiers are influenced by their families back home.

    Consider who worked to get the soldiers a raise in pay and for getting the Veterans Administration and Hospitals straightened out. Soldiers swear allegiance to the flag and to the Constitution, not tin horned retired political generals, washed up members of the punditariat and half assed colonels like Vindermann. Active duty soldiers know the story of how the Obama Administration neglected them, didn’t pay them and made their grandfathers wait around for a doctor’s appointment at a VA Hospital until the old man croaked from lack of medical attention.

    And who is going to lead the Overthrow? Pelosi? Schumer? Adam Schiff? General Mattis? Hillary Clinton? “Do not concede under any circumstances.” Are there any questions left on why this evil cow was defeated in 2016?

    How are they going to drape themselves in legitimacy if it is a disputed election? What extra-Constitutional measures can they take. Long before they storm the White House, Trump will have invoked the Rebellion Act already available to him under the States of Emergency endorsed by Congress. You may not know that the Marines, since the time of Jefferson, report directly to the President and not through the War Department or the Joint Chiefs. They will be guarding the White House if there is no clear-cut resolution to the election. These scenarios written by Washington reporters with little else on their minds haven’t plotted a realistic picture yet.

    There are “drop dead” dates for Electors to be selected by the Electoral College and their acceptance by the Senate. If a state doesn’t have their vote in by those dates, the election results of that state will not be counted towards the election of the President. It will not have 535 electoral votes; instead it will have 535-X electoral votes as the universe to count from. All this yammering by Democrats about what they are going to do is so much “huffing and puffing ’til I blow your house down.” It is freshly deposited bovine excrement.

    Mr. Allensworth can praise Major Yevdokimov as the pivotal figure in Moscow to end the counter-revolution. Despite selecting Glorious moments of Valor, the rebellion was quelled when it came down to Russian boys shooting their guns at their sisters and mothers in the crowd. Instead, we saw pictures of sisters putting long stem roses down the barrels of the soldiers’ guns.

    What the Democrats fail to understand is that their rhetoric is empty and void of tangible benefits to the citizenry. They admire tyrants. A tyrant has no power when there are no longer people who will yield to his demands. Review the photos of Mussolini’s carcass strung up on a pole hanging upside down in Milan. The “subjects” of that Fascist rule beat his dead corpse like a slab of meat on the hook while women spit on his face. “Sic Semper Tyrannis” Thus ever unto tyrants. True throughout history, truer even today.

  15. Emslander says:

    It depends, as my Mom used to say.

    It has to start with a truly hung decision on election night, then a stock market collapse the day after and a sudden “reported” increase in Covid19 deaths. A lockdown will be declared by Democrap governors for our own good. This will lead to a long, drawn out crisis over the transition. Trump will crap out. New leadership will have to emerge that can attract significant military support, probably in some state National Guard.

    If there is a standoff of some kind that lasts far into next year, the forces of order might be able to convince military leaders to support the new leadership. Since the Left is disorder itself, the answer will have to be on the Right.

    New leadership is the key. Someone who understands the exercise of power and wants to use it for the good. Maybe Cruz or Hawley.

    • Replies: @Drew
  16. Drew says:

    However, they don’t own agriculture or logistics, which is where a lot of Trump support exists. If it did come to war, the easiest way to attack the leftist centers would be to destroy fields before harvest, and selectively target weak points on railroads and interstates. Destroying electrical plants would be another easy target too. I don’t know who would win a hot war between left and right, but neither side is a shoo-in, especially since most leftists don’t seem to have the faintest clue how to build or maintain basic things like food likes and shelter.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Almost Missouri
  17. Drew says:

    That’s a good point, one I think Z-man has made a couple times by saying that these movements are just a way for people to get cheap grace. There are likely a non-trivial number BLM etc. Supporters who are supporters in name only, like you say. The real tell, as behavioral economists would say, is whether they spend money (or blood) for the cause.

  18. ZX says:

    Perhaps all this fuss and coup talk and apparent elite disapproval of Trump is just like fake wrestling. It is all choreographed in advance to distract attention. If the powers that be really wanted to oust Trump they would have put up a much stronger candidate than Biden or just told him to retire. He has done everything they want. I wonder also if the Biden hard drive October surprise also was planned last year to put Trump back in. Reminds me of the novel “Witness for the Prosecution”.

    • Replies: @Kevin Barrett
  19. Drew says:

    Re: lockdowns, there are limits to what spiteful dem governors can do, if only because they have to stand for reelection. From talking to some friends in Indiana, I would not be surprised if the sitting governor is unseated by the libertarian candidate whose main point of running is ending the lockdowns. I’m not saying it’s likely, mind you, just that the unpopularity of the lockdowns might be sufficient to reorder the political scene in that state. Consequently, people like Witchmer might be punitive in the aftermath of November, but they’re still stuck with the problem of getting reelected, and their opponents will have a pretty easy time of criticizing them, especially next November or the following one.

    • Replies: @Emslander
    , @ThreeCranes
  20. Wrong analogy IMHO. Yeltsin personally was a bit like Trump, but he was the man of the globalists.
    Actually Trump is Gorbachev, Yeltsin is Biden (well he was a little less demented yet, but by not much). The analogous situation would be a palace coup where Trump would be declared unfit for office and replaced by Pence and Pence would declare a martial law to save the USA, then Democrats would start a color revolution and Pence and his circle would find themselves almost without supporters, the military would refuse orders, siding with the BLM/Antifa mob on the streets.

  21. It’s time to lock up Mattis the mad dog and throw away the key but beyond that, I don’t think colonels who actually might be commanding the forces would go against Trump and the American people… traitors are in for a rude awakening!

  22. Gentle Reminder: if Biden legit wins, the commie rabble will still riot. The Right must be punished, ya see, for electing Trump over Queen Cankles. Trump may really have to flee the country.

    A hot civil war is preferable to Globohomo’s false peace (but you knew that.)

    • Replies: @TKK
  23. Jake says:

    The coming coup is, of course, not coming but ongoing. It is just a stage of the Kulturkampf to make the US into the Cultural Marxist version of the USSR that took off with a vengeance with the victories by ‘The Civil Rights Movement’ in the 1960s.

    The WASP way, solidified during the last years of Cromwellian rule and become engrained with the wrap up of The Glorious Revolution, is slow, muddled movement farther and farther away from Christendom. It is pragmatic revolution. The end game is always very close to what the much more honest French and Russians got to very quickly, but the WASP love of property and pretense to being too calm to do horrible things to maintain the revolution against Christ and Christendom rule the cultural responses.

    However, even the moist turtle-slow senses of revolution come to tipping points at which Bolshevik, or Jacobin or Puritan, levels of slaughter and destruction and society-wide ‘reformation’ are enforced with no mercy.

    It could be that the Woke have the power now to force the old guard WASP Liberals to accept large scale slaughter, and that their side wins any ‘civil war,’ just as the Puritans won. If the non-Woke side wins, its victory will be short-lived if it does not begin steering the nation, and the entire West, back toward Christ and Christendom.

    • Replies: @Liza
    , @anonymous
  24. Jake says:

    You are on the money. The processes of Yank WASP, of the Anglo-Zionist Empire, culture have led directly to what you describe. At some point, either the Left is allowed to take over everything ‘peacefully,’ or there must be some type large scale violence to stop the Leftists take over.

    If the latter, then the more that successful anti-Leftist vanguard is like Yeltsin, the more the victory is Pyrrhic.

  25. Any unrest of the type that Allensworth envisions would need very slick and professional theatrical productions, on ‘the street’ and broadcast over various outlets. Think Orson Welles’ ‘War of the Worlds’ to the Nth degree, then pumped with steroids.

    The simulations that we’ve seen over the years have been convincing, and I expect that a post-election crisis will need a few nicely designed events to move large groups of sheeple.

    Trump has the unanimous support of law enforcement. In such a crisis officers are no longer constrained by rank and file and will be free to side with average citizens against the filth and vermin that have mocked and threatened them for months. Unlike the insurgents, law people have families to protect and there is no greater motivating factor.

    Most patriots have long suffered in silence and have reached their breaking point. They, unlike the youthful and spoiled revel rousers and revolutionary wannabes have endured hardship and persevered. At the first sign of blood and real battle, the Anyifa mob will become shell-shocked and retreat in disarray.


    • Agree: Hegar
  26. Everyone seems to think that the US military is subservient to the visible civilian gov’t apparatchiks. This is backwards. The US military has run the country from the rear seat since it murdered Kennedy with the help of their wholly owned associates in the spook agencies and Israel.

    Read the clues. Kennedy didn’t think much of Operation Northwoods and stopped it. That US military plan called for the murder of US citizens by the US military and blame Cuba for it; a false flag operation. The military wanted to invade Cuba and Kennedy wasn’t on board, so he got whacked. That was when the US became a military dictatorship with a PR operation known as the Presidency, Congress and the Supreme Court as a front.

    Then came the endless wars till 911 happened. Those wars were good business for the generals and the war profiteering corporations.

    On 9/10, Rumsfeld announced on national TV that DOD couldn’t account for a missing \$2 Trillion. The very next day, the Navy office in the Pentagon investigating where the money went was strategically hit by a missile, destroying all their records and murdering the investigators. Simultaneously, in New York, building 7 was destroyed. It housed the only backup data the Navy had for their investigation. Building 7 was blown up as per eye witnesses and was never hit by a plane.

    Thereafter, the US police state got into full operation. More wars for profit, more regime change for profit, more Fed funny money for the well connected, more military spending while a few folks in the private sector discovered that the original missing \$2 trillion had grown to \$21 Trillion and no one in DC or the media cared enough to even mention it let alone investigate it.

    Face it people, the US military and the spook agencies are the ‘deep state’ and the deep state has run the country for decades. The upcoming election won’t change a damned thing because the deep state will still run things afterwards. The only change might be an overt military takeover under the guise of protecting the population once the inevitable violence starts after the election, regardless of who wins.

    It’s all part of the overall plandemic. There are no surprises.

    In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happened, you can bet it was planned that way.
    Franklin D. Roosevelt

    • Agree: Bro43rd, Agent76
    • Thanks: Alden
  27. @nsa

    Jill Tracy Jacobs’ Italian grandfathers name was Giacoppa before he changed it to Jacobs.

  28. Emslander says:

    You’re talking normal democratic procedure. I’m talking about a scenario for a coup. Democrap governors will be following the Open Society playbook.

    • Agree: TKK
    • Replies: @Drew
  29. DaveE says:
    @Ralph Cramden

    Absolutely right, great analysis. Trump Derangement Syndrome won’t get the Democrats anything except mouth froth on their shoes. How can people call the Democrats an effective force against the patriots by nominating a senile banker pervert and an affirmative action bureaucrat communist attorney as their figurehead? I mean, c’mon – it would be funny if it weren’t so pathetically sad.

    Love Trump, hate Trump or anything in between – I’ll take good ol’ fashioned patriotism over catatonic brain-dead bureaucrats backed by stolen Jewish shekels any day of the week.

  30. anon[247] • Disclaimer says:

    A late entry but congrats! You win the most penetrating comment of this discussion.

    • Thanks: RoatanBill
  31. @Drew

    People fall into two camps. Those who favor the lockdown approach believe that deaths from Covid run 3.5%. Those who favor “life returning to normal” believe the death rate is between 0.1 to 0.3 percent.

    The former are terrified and not willing to accept the risk. The latter are willing to accept the judgement of Darwin and let biology take its course.

    • Replies: @Thomas Milton
    , @karel
  32. @OldSaltUSNR

    I’m not a vet but you can count on me. I’ll throw in my lot with you guys by taking an oath to uphold the Constitution against all enemies, external and internal.

    From my tours through Walmart, Bass Pro and the like, I see that there are no semi-auto, “assault-type” weapons for sale. All .223 ammunition is gone as well. Same for sales through computer sites. All that’s left is bolt action rifles and shotguns. Is this an indication of an end-around type of gun control we can expect in the future or have all the inventory and production of offensive rifles been snatched up by run of the mill retail buyers?

    The columns of black militia marched through Stone Mountain, Georgia, raises the question of whether these guys or someone who backs them is buying up all the ammo and military-style rifles. Or, has the U.S. deepstate ordered the suspension of sales of ammo because of proximity to an upcoming national election? I’ve noticed in the past that ammo on retail shelves becomes scarce around election time and then reappears when passions cool between elections.

    Anyone else have any observations?

    • Replies: @Bombercommand
  33. OVER it says:

    Of all the communist revolutions, and that is exactly what we are witnessing, NONE of them have ever been attempted against a nation of freedom loving people who are heavily armed, with numbers that rival the entire worlds military forces. Should this ongoing coup be completed this fall, it will be short lived, because with all the fraud in this election already, we will never accept a communist leftists “victory”, as it will not be legitimate.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @foolisholdman
  34. polistra says:

    The backfire seems unlikely. Deepstate was operating by loose remote control in Russia, trusting our SOB Yeltsin to carry out our commands. Yeltsin apparently got tired of being a puppet and assured us that Putin would continue our work. Putin turned out to be a genuine servant of Russian popular will, who rules with the consent of the people.

    Such a betrayal can’t happen here. All politicians, R and D and “independent”, work for Deepstate and know what will happen if they break the rules. The punishers are everywhere, operating in tightly controlled unison.

  35. Alden says:
    @Ralph Cramden

    Opinions vary. I hope the loyal veterans know where to go, how to get there, and what to do the first week of November.

    • Agree: bruce county
    • Replies: @bruce county
  36. Liza says:

    It could be that the Woke have the power now to force the old guard WASP Liberals to accept large scale slaughter

    The media are good at ignoring individual murders here and there (Christian & Newsome/Chase Meola for only two examples) but how are they going to ignore mass slaughter, I wonder.

  37. MLK says:

    A good article, but to the extent that Yeltsin offers a useful analogue it’s his 1996 reelection and to Sleepy Joe.

    As I keep noting, we Americans need no foreign playbooks. Perhaps the decades run-up to The Civil War is too far in the distant past for most to understand its current relevance.

    “Is it soup yet?” I think not. And if it is there will be no question about it since if it occurs surrounding the election it will immediately break out into political violence in DC like nobody’s ever seen before. Street violence will merely distract from the high-level body count if and when it starts.

    The head-liners of The Resistance are a gerontocracy. Does Biden and Pelosi strike you as capable of leading the abandonment of our Constitution thingie? Moreover, they and their backers have everything to lose. They have every reason to wait Trump out rather than initiate something known in markets as ‘fat-tail risk.’

    The forces arrayed against Trump, domestic and foreign, haven’t changed since 2016. Their plans to steal back the election then were insufficient given Trump’s Electoral College margin. They’ve vastly increased their voter fraud capabilities but those will once again come a cropper, especially if Trump wins a higher percentage of the black and Hispanic vote.

    Yes, all bets are off if a contested election comes down to one or perhaps two states. But they may well have gotten their tits caught in wringer with “Count all the votes.” This means that election night may end with Trump having won up to 245 Electoral Votes and Biden less than 110. Whereas the Fake News could have pulled off their part in 2016, they’re now completed discredited as Democrat Allied Media.

    The irony is that they’ve nationalized this election in a way likely unhelpful to them in that the election night results from every state — not just battlegrounds that determine the outcome — must accord with those they’re attempting to steal.

  38. Alden says:

    This year’s harvest is over. The food is in the warehouses. Winter wheat’s already been planted. Planting won’t start in the northern states till May. Next year’s food supply was secure 6 weeks ago.

    California fields and orchards could be burnt I suppose, if farmers local governments state police sheriffs fire departments and wild fire fighters. disappeared for a couple weeks .

    • Replies: @Drew
  39. @nsa

    Hindu Dindu

    That’s a keeper.

  40. @OldSaltUSNR

    The original military coup against the President was when they bumped off Kennedy. It’s been a military dictatorship ever since with interchangeable stooges in the 3 branches that forever increase military spending and refuse to investigate the \$21 Trillion that DOD and HUD can’t account for.

    The military won’t join the current coup because they are the chief organizers of it.

    • Agree: Stonehands
  41. anonymous[371] • Disclaimer says:

    That US military plan called for the murder of US citizens by the US military and blame Cuba for it

    Wrong. The plane with passengers (military personnel) would rendezvous out to sea with an identical remotely piloted plane, which would be shot down. The passenger plane would land secretly.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
    , @TexCritter
  42. This article is based on the absurd fiction that Trump is somehow opposed to the power structure in the U.S.A. It is the right-wing version of Obama’s “change you can believe in”. One has to understand that none of these people get into the position they get into if they actually intend to change anything!

    Really, this is just like professional wrestling. All these people are buddies working the same show. These are all Kayfabe plotlines.

  43. @Anon

    Your 4 red lines have been crossed and ongoing for decades. Where have you been?

    Guns grabbing Each state as well as the Fed Gov has gun laws. Not one of them comports with the Constitution and I don’t care what the black robes have to say.
    Forced vaccination Children have been pumped full of shit for decades to produce the dumbed down group required by the Dem party.
    Forced internment All the nonsense drug possession and money laundering laws are there to make non violent people criminals by act of law.
    Foreign troop landings The US military has hosted foreign troops on an ongoing basis for decades. They train the murderers at the School Of The Americas in Georgia.

    • Replies: @Anon
  44. @Marco polo

    Hate to break it to you, but the cops are on the same side as Antifa. Their loyalty was bought off in the form of very rich pensions decades ago.

    • Replies: @Drew
  45. @nsa

    But Trump is Netanyahu’s own alter ego in America, and Israel has no longer any tolerance for Dindus since Obama : Zionist Israel, preferably Likud, not American politically correct Jewry, is the very soul of America, and trumps all decisions and lobbying made by the American Jews : the latter have to obey Israel since America is no longer a sovereign country. The Jewry as a whole is tired of bribing with so much money the media that are there to keep the populace in check. Snowflakes are too costly, now that their job has been done, they can be dispensed with. Up to about 1978 everything indicated American Jewry ultimately bet on the success of a Marxist revolution to do away with the American middle class. Menachem Begin and his more authentically Israeli crowd decided to rule out the whole pro-worker paradigm out of the game and impose a right-wing antihumanistic Jewish image. Union power which seemed about to do away with the last remnants of free enterprise in countries such as Britain, the latter having descended to the level of USSR in terms of standards of living, when it was brutally curbed : we understood that workers’ power has been deployed only so as to cull out goyish free enterprise. As soon as the capitalist world still standing was Jewish or pro-Jewish, workers were laid off and sent back to their time-old humiliating condition, with accusations of antisemitism threatening them rather than their former goy bosses if they would not obey. Same thing for wokery : a Trump victory would bludgeon them with a clear signal that they are no longer needed and that the accusations of antisemitism are for them from then on if they don’t accept the return of Victorian style discriination against them. Most cultural left media will be laid off by the deep state and their employees forced back into menial jobs. Between being the gay capital of the world and the military-religious capital of the world Israel has chosen the latter.

    When the Jewish community is about to jettison a mass of supporters they no longer need, they first make them crazy : remember how crazy the last marxists of America and Europe had been talking even under the beginning of Reagan’s mandate before being dismissed as irrelevant hobos talking to themselves alone in the dark? That is the fate awaiting BLM as premedited by Israel. Israel trumps all UN decisions and preferences as can clearly be seen with the Palestinian question, and America obeys like a blood sister of lesser rank. The Palestinians will always lose against Israel as long as they claim for Palestinian independence, because they are not Palestinians but Arabs of the same sort you find from Morocco and Sudan to the South of Iran.

    • Replies: @Majority of One
  46. Some KGB forces did arrive. But the men sent looked at the crowd and refused what would have amounted to running them over with their BMP’s.

  47. @ThreeCranes

    Some of us even think it’s a complete medical fraud.

  48. TKK says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    He who jokes confesses.

    – Old Italian Saying

    Trump has already “joked” that if he loses, he will have to leave the country. He framed it because Biden is such a shameful candidate, but he’s no fool.

    The murderous foaming hatred of Trump is unprecedented in America. The only way he could remain would be to hide out with Secret Service agents in a fortress and tweet. He has shark syndrome- those people who never stop moving, searching, working. He would be miserable.

    If all this hatred (What is a stronger word than hate?) and TDS is fake-it’s the greatest hoax ever pulled off in American history.

    If you voted for Trump, and Biden wins- are we safe? Trump’s tax returns were illegally leaked.

    How far of a leap is it for all Trump voters to be posted, and “dealt with”.

    Remember- Keith Olbermann says Trump supporters are “maggots”. No one cared.

    The language of contempt- the first step to dehumanize, and annihilate.

    Note: Not one SJW, leftist or person of prominence cared that a white teacher had his head chopped off in France by a Muslim refugee because he showed a cartoon of an ancient desert barbarian with delusions of grandeur in a critical thinking class.

    Decapitated. Say his name? Samuel Paty. Nah. We can’t risk hurting any Muslims’s feelings.

    Because that would be the real crime.

    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
    , @Druid55
  49. Sirius says:

    @Wayne Allensworth

    Interesting analogy, but if you take it one step further, Yeltsin betrayed the Russian people and allowed an oligarch class to emerge that stole almost all of the state’s assets. A few years later he called in the army to blast away at the Russian Duma, the parliament and arrested his parliamentary opponents. Not exactly a victory for democracy.

  50. @OldSaltUSNR

    I back up the statement above. If there is a military coup, or if assassination made against the White House, an army of vets will rise up to take them down. There would be a gorilla warfare war like history has never seen; it would make Iraq and both Afghanistan wars look like kindergarten recess.

    Top elites supporting this like George Soros and his entire family would be the first to go, then the members of congress supporting it, highest ranking FBI members, liberal governors and mayors, and on down to the corrupt liberal DAs of the cities and towns. It would be a war where one side wore uniforms and the other side didn’t. They would never know who the enemy is. The vets would not use social media or phones or the internet. It would all be done in person. Face to face.

    • Replies: @Alden
  51. @Ralph Cramden

    What good will it do Trump if the military brass refuses to enforce his order if he invokes the Insurrection/Rebellion Act? Did we not see a preview of that after Trump’s photo op holding up a Bible after that nearby historic church was torched? Both SecDef Esper and General Milley were upset that they were used to scatter violent protesters to enable a president they despise, and vowed not to do so again. Milley is now refusing to follow Trump’s directive to remove troops from the 19 year-old Afghan fiasco and, per Tucker Carlson, is conducting his own investigation.

    Really, are they not guilty of sedition against their Commander-in-Chief? But, I’d guess that Trump was afraid to fire them in the middle of a venomous campaign. I’d further speculate that Trump failed to invoke the Insurrection Act against the Antifa/BLM rioters (when he clearly should have), as he’d been told in no uncertain terms by the deep state not to dare try it or suffer the consequences.

    I hadn’t read that the Marines report directly to the president, bypassing the normal chain of command. But even if what you say is true, that’s not much comfort. Coup cheerleader Mad Dog Mattis is a retired Marine general, after all.

    • Agree: TKK
    • Replies: @Ralph Cramden
  52. Why do you call them ‘leftist’, thereby giving them undeserving credit? The current PC is about Tri-Supremacism, that of Jews, blacks, and homos. No one else matters. Some idiot black criminal, Fentanyl Floyd, died of OD under police custody but became big, big news and we must hail him to high heaven; even Donald Trump was compelled to join the chorus. But all those people attacked and even killed by black mobs didn’t count. All those whose properties were destroyed by blacks have been ignored. Blacks have the right to riot, at least when Jewish Power gives the go-ahead. Even though blue cities were attacked by BLM & Antifa mobs and black looters, most white urbanites are still firmly on the ‘progressive’ side. They feel it’s their ‘spiritual’ duty. Homos are above the law. They spread HIV and caused myriad problems, but we are to weep for them as hapless victims and celebrate sodomy in traditional houses of worship. And June is the crazed ‘gay pride’ month, with the most powerful industries and institutions all flying the homo flag as the main symbol of ‘global values’. All these yrs, what did we see in public spaces but ‘gay’ flags and BLM signs?
    And of course, the Jews! The big kahuna of the New globo-homo Order. They get away with everything. They make sure the US favors Zionists over Palestinians and Israel over Iran even though Jews occupy Palestinian lands and Israel has nukes but Iran doesn’t. Jews insist on Jewish Supremacism as default US policy but constantly berate whites about ‘white supremacism’. Goy whores of both parties deliriously chant “Israel is America’s greatest ally” at AIPAC rallies.

    The ‘woke’ order is about supremacism of three groups: Jews, homos, and blacks. White cucks and non-white idiots are told to rally around those three holies. They themselves don’t count. If the US is really leftist and cares for the underdog, why is there NOTHING about BDS and Palestinian Lives Matter on the so-called ‘left’? There are grassroots elements on left and right that condemn Zionist Supremacism, but their voices never make it to the top. Most Democrats consent to blue states/cities shutting down BDS. Trumpers howl with approval when Trump pledges more support for Israel while dumping on Iran and Palestinians EVEN THOUGH Jews hate white American populists even more than Arabs and Muslims.

    So, we need to start by STOP calling the current Western Power ‘leftist’. Stop giving it the credit it doesn’t deserve. It should be called ‘Tri-Supremacist’, and Tri-Supremacism dominates elite discourse and dogma. It will also raise consciousness among most non-white groups that Jews, blacks, and homos are favored over them.

    In Russia, the Left actually did its part in bringing down the Yeltsin-Jewish-oligarch system. The Communist Party opposed the gangster-capitalism and could have won the election in 1996 if not for Zionist-US interference. Later, Russian leftists joined with nationalists against the globalists.

    The problem with the West is there is no real left anymore. The ‘left’ has been refashioned to celebrate the idolatry of Jews, homos, and blacks, thus Tri-Supremacism. So we should call it ‘tri-supremacism’ because that’s what it is, and then, scales may fall from more eyes. Terminology matters. Call it ‘leftist’, and it gives the impression that progs are for ‘social justice’ when they’re for idolatry of three supremacist groups. Just ask the Palestinians how much progs care about peace and justice for the underdog. Tulsi Gabbard took an anti-imperialist position, and she was totally ignored. Instead, most progs, under the influence of Jewish-controlled media, actually condemned Trump for trying to pull out of Syria and Afghanistan. They are aligned with the Deep State and military-industrial complex. And they embraced the ridiculous Russia-Collusion hysteria that would have made Joe McCarthy blush.

    The difference between Russia in the 90s and US now is that, even though Jewish oligarchs gained immense power and wealth under Boris Yeltsin, they hadn’t as yet transformed popular thought. As such, most Russians still thought in nationalist and socialist terms. Even though communism was bad for Russia, its one silver lining was the suppression of Jewish Capital. Capitalism has been the real instrument of Jewish Power as sky is the limit for gaining profits and privilege. Communism suppressed the rise of capitalist oligarchy. Also, communist nations tended to be more insular and conservative on social matters. And they were fairly patriotic because nationalism, like socialism, stressed unity and the collective over mere individualism. No wonder then that in the 1970s and 80s, the Soviet Communist Party tolerated Russian nationalists more than Russian ‘Liberals'(many of whom were Jewish/Zionist) who looked to the West for all the answers.
    So, even though Jewish oligarchs gained super-power in Russia of the 90s, they had no popular support. Most Russians were in nationalist and socialist mode, and Vladimir Putin exploited this reality to consolidate power to the detriment of Jewish oligarchs. Also, as the economic plan of the 90s was so calamitous in a nation without social safety nets, many Russians faced destitution and turned against the shock doctrine of gangster capitalism and globalist ‘liberal democracy’, aka puppet government of the Zionist-run West.


    But things are different in the West. As Jews have had control of media and academia for a long time, they managed to persuade great many folks that Tri-Supremacism constitutes the highest virtues and values of ‘Western Civilization’. Howls of ‘racism’ means we must worship blacks as moral superiors. Sports and Pop Culture inculcated generations of white people with worship of blacks as idols of cool and badassery. Accusations of ‘antisemitism’ and endless Holocaust remembrance obligate whites to bless and obey Jews as their highest duty. And 80% of Americans think ‘gay marriage’ is a good thing. That means a huge number of ‘conservatives’ also feel that way.
    So, there is insufficient national-popular will in the West to push back against Jewish Power. Jews had the money and connections in Russia of the 90s but not the control of the Russian Soul. In contrast, Jews have such total control over what now constitutes ‘Western Values’ or ‘American Exceptionalism’ that even the American ‘right’ and populism couch their arguments in terms of ‘We love blacks more’ or ‘We love Jews more’. And ‘conservatives’ have already come a long way to accept homosexuality and even tranny-craziness as something wonderful. Consider how the ‘conservative’ judge Gorsuch decided in favor of tranny nonsense. Whether ‘left’ or ‘right’, the basic premise in the West is Tri-Supremacism, i.e. “Our side is better because we suck up to Jews, blacks, and homos more than your side does.” It’s pure idolatry, not ideology.

    Also, unlike bankrupt Russia of the 90s, the US and much of the West have an effective social safety net system. Maybe this won’t last forever, but no one in the US starved even during the 2008 financial debacle and bigger mess with Covid hysteria. The problem even now is too much obesity.
    We’ve seen how, even when the so-called ‘left’ loses to the so-called ‘right’ in the West, NOTHING changes. Brexit only led to MORE IMMIGRATION of non-whites and more PC censorship. Under Trump and Republican control of both houses, we only got more tax cuts for Wall Street, more anti-Russian/Iran hysteria, more sucking up to Jews, more sucking up to blacks, and more gay-gay-gay.

    Words matter, and calling globalists the ‘left’ has been utterly damaging by lending the false impression, especially among the naive young, that the Jews, blacks, and homos stand for ‘leftism’ when they are in supremacist gangster-capitalist mode. And of course, Jews are in militarist mode as they push for more Wars for Israel. And as many blacks serve in the military, they are complicit in neo-imperialist ventures to destroy so many lives. Black generals and soldiers got blood on their hands. But where is the cry of ‘Arab Lives Matter’, ‘Muslim Lives Matter’, ‘Iranian Lives Matter’, ‘Syrian Lives Matter’, ‘Yemenese Lives Matter’? There is only silence because the so-called ‘left’ is totally bogus. They only care about Jewish power, blacks ego, and homo vanity. Call it Tri-Supremacism. One dead lousy Negro Fentanyl Floyd matters more than millions of Arab/Muslim lives destroyed by Wars for Israel and their proxies.

    Republican Party is useless because Billy Boy Clinton in the 1990s merged Republicanism with Democratism. What animates elite mentality? Material Greed and Moral Vanity. In politics, material greed amounts to the freedom of capital to make more money; and moral vanity amounts to the perception of being on the side of angels, be it spiritual or social or whatever. No wonder that the ruling elites in Western History both hogged the wealth and hoisted the banner of Christ. Material greed and moral vanity.
    In the past, the GOP offered material greed to the elites, whereas the Democratic Party, especially in association with the New Deal and Civil Rights Movement, came to define moral vanity for the elites. So, the elites looked to the GOP for material greed and looked to Democrats for moral vanity. Because of its deep connections to Big Labor and legacy of the Great Depression(which, according to New Deal lore, the Democrats overcame by favoring labor over capital), the Democrats were limited in offering material greed to the elites. So, the elites had no choice but to go to the GOP for material greed, all the while inching ever closer to the Democrats on moral vanity.
    But then, Clinton comes along and severs ties between Democrats and the Working Class. He signs onto ‘free trade’ and ramps up mass immigration of peon labor. And he deregulates Wall Street and hastens the rise of posh cities. Also, leftism is altered from Mayday to Gayday, which is great for the rich as homos love to cater to the powerful and privileged.
    In other words, the Democrats could now offer both material greed and moral vanity to the elites. So, why would the elites need the GOP anymore? Elites got the bundle of greed and vanity in one package from Democrats. At this point, it’s difficult for the GOP to offer even MORE GREED to the elites as the elites have done so well under ‘Neo-Liberalism’. Didn’t Obama bail out the banks? Aren’t Hillary and Biden the darlings of Wall Street? With the Democratic Party, the elites can make super-profits and make symbolic gestures with homo flags and BLM signs.

    GOP has a future if it becomes a genuine populist party of the have-lesses, but Trumpism proved that’s far from doable. So, it’s better to get rid of the party. Its only impact is to divide the white vote along false dichotomies of ‘left’ and ‘right’. US would do better as a one-party system where all Republicans become Democrats and form alliances with saner groups against the elites, especially the Jews.

    • Thanks: By-tor, antibeast
    • Replies: @haha
  53. @anonymous

    I’ve heard that before and it makes no sense as it leaves witnesses around.

    I’m sure that’s what the controllers might have wanted to tell the dupes they got on board, but the easiest thing to do is blow the original plane up thus leaving no witnesses and lots of bodies and debris floating in the ocean as solid evidence for UN co-conspirators to verify. That they gave that version to Kennedy is also likely. But then a tragic mistake would have been made and oops …

    The US military with help from the intel agencies and Israel did 911. They had the weaponry, the control systems, the motive and the opportunity. Just read up on Dov Zakheim and his connections to drone flight control systems, military transport plane conversion, missing money, etc.

    The US military/intel agencies blew up civilians in Italy as part of Operation Gladio after WW-II and blamed the communists for it. Sibel Edmonds blew the whistle on Operation Gladio B in the 90’s showing that the original operation never really ended.

    Why is murdering people of any nation such a shock when the US military is involved? That’s what they do. Didn’t the US military help murder thousands of US soldiers and untold numbers of Vietnamese during the totally contrived Vietnam war? Haven’t they done the same in Middle East?

  54. haha says:

    I think no battle lines will form, some minor skirmishes notwithstanding. The real battle will take place by deceit, behind the cover of false news, confusion and panic, in an environment where no one will ever know what really happened, who won who lost, because the media will call the election and convince many of what they say. The Trump side has no media power, no social media, and hence no bullhorn with which to address its followers. How do you even let your followers know that they won when all the media will be reporting otherwise? Remember how the media had falsely and fraudulently called out the election in favor of Al Gore? They almost slipped that one past America.

    Soft power of all sorts is skewed too strongly against Trump and Middle America. And we well know where big money, big finance, hot shot talking heads, the universities and professors, Hollywood, celebrities, and many foreign leaders stand. As soon as the media calls out the election against Trump, don’t you realize how many leaders from EU will pour in their congratulations to the Biden-Harris team?

    Don’t you all realize how easy it is to steal an election? Doesn’t it happen so many times, in so many countries?

    • Replies: @aandrews
  55. Drew says:

    With all due respect, I live on a farm and have farmers for neighbors. Less than han half the current crops are in right now. It may be different in your neck of the woods, but generalize from it. Second, even if the crops are in and stored, they need transported and processed, which is pretty easy to disrupt, as events earlier this year have proved. While I didn’t spell this out for you, on account of presuming you are intelligent and capable of having your arguments challenged without you having a kneejerk reaction to thoughtlessly disagree, food supply chains into cities are very fragile because a) most food isn’t produced in urban areas, b) most of it isn’t stored in urban areas, and c) a large amount of isn’t processed in urban areas. While I don’t think there’s much of a chance of a hot civil war starting before the end of the year, the strategy for the mostly-rural Trump supporters should it come to it would be to disrupt the food chain by destroying crops (in or out of the field) and destroying bridges and overpasses on highways and train tracks because there really isn’t much food in an urban area at any point in time, relative to the population, and even a few minor disruptions will make a lot poor people go hungry and get angry. Like I said, this strategy may not be a winner when all is said and done, but it’s a very easy way to inflict a lot of damage quickly and cheaply.

    • Replies: @Alden
  56. Drew says:

    Maybe so, but how many lockdown supporters in, say, Michigan would be willing to die to keep it going? The problem all governments have is that they can only exist with popular support, whether it’s by peaceful democracy or violent war. If the number of people willing to fight and die to empower a government is smaller than the number willing to fight the government, that government is going to have problem whether it’s settled peaceably by election or by other means.

  57. Drew says:
    @Johnny Smoggins

    The problem is that the money isn’t there for a lot of those pensions. Strangely, the promises of lying power-hungry sociopaths don’t amount to much, not even for their supporters and defenders.

  58. haha says:
    @Priss Factor

    Priss Factor, my congratulations for an excellent, EXCELLENT, analysis. You have laid bare the reality of the ‘fake left’ from so many angles. Look forward to reading more from you

  59. Hegar says:

    It is absolutely impossible to use the military to take control in the U.S., as the soldiers would refuse, and the officers would refuse. What officer would want to face a lifetime in prison for going with such a scheme?

    “Hey, some of the politicians in my party think you should order your soldiers to take power. Wanna do it?”

    “Uh…I’m perfectly fine living with my family instead of in prison, so no.”

    And why would the Democrats bother when they know mass immigration will hand them permanent power, like in California?

    The same is true in every Western nation, by the way. There are no soldiers who would sacrifice their freedom by going along with a plan to occupy parliament. Pity their families if they were insane enough to do so. Pity the shame these families would have to live with, never being able to show their faces on the street. The officers and soldiers just want to take their paycheck and keep living free. What’s in it for them, by occupying parliament? Which would be irrelevant two days later when the police put handcuffs on them, as no other part of the military would join in the crime.

    And what are the logistics behind such a coup? Imagine all the people who have to go along with you. You need fuel – but how? You’re sitting there in the capital or some other city. What makes you think any fuel transports will come to you? And that’s just one of the problems.

    This isn’t Thailand or Africa. Even in freakin’ Turkey the days of military coups are over. The military tried to hold the vital bridge in Istanbul, spanning the strait. The people just walked all over it. What was the military going to do, shoot at them? They wouldn’t. The soldiers live with the people. They knew trials would be waiting for them.

  60. @Drew

    Jaysus dude, nobody needs to destroy any crops. Blue “Staters” are actually Blue Cityers. They live overwhelmingly in urban enclaves entirely dependent for food, water, fuel, electricity and heat on the surrounding Red counties. Not to mention that such public order as they enjoy derives from decidedly Red law enforcement officers. If the Red Staters decline to provide Blue cities with food, water, fuel, electricity, heat and public order, those Blue Towns will immediately spiral into orgies of darkness, panic, looting, and violence, followed quickly by dehydration, starvation and mass exodus or extinction.

    I suspect most infrastructure workers are Red. They can at will shut off Blue cities without firing a shot. Blue cities mostly depend on very few arteries for delivering all their sustenance. So even if the infrastructure keeps operating, it is relatively simple for any shot firers to shut them down with a few surgical operations on cable, pipelines, roads and rail. That is the “easiest way to attack the leftist centers”, not retarded crop-burning. Most crops are far less flammable than urbanites imagine anyway. And why destroy entire electrical plants? Just snip the lines to the treason zones. Let Red America continue to enjoy its own bounty.

    • Thanks: Buck Ransom
    • Replies: @Liza
    , @Jim Bob Lassiter
  61. KenH says:

    The military the rank and file is heavily black

    But most of them work in supply and other non-combat roles. Most of the actual fighters are white men as well as some hispanics with a few blacks. Don’t be fooled by all the goofy commercials showing a grim faced black soldiers as if it’s mostly black men on the front lines protecting the nation.

    • Replies: @SteveRogers42
  62. Agent76 says:

    Oct 19, 2020 There They Go Again! Adam Schiff Blames RUSSIA For Biden’s Laptop

    Deja vu! Once again those Russians have come through to plant disinformation during a US presidential campaign!

    • LOL: Alfred
    • Replies: @Notsofast
  63. Liza says:
    @Almost Missouri

    And why destroy entire electrical plants?

    Why burn, loot, smash and utterly ruin billions of dollars’ worth of stores and other property? It’s been going on for months and nobody seems to be losing their shite over any of that, certainly not the various levels of government and the media not at all. Stores and other buildings are infrastructure, too.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
  64. Cyrano says:

    The Soviet coup failed because the communist elites had the honesty and integrity to admit that the system has failed the ordinary people. There is no such honesty and integrity in US.

    In fact their elites believe that the system hasn’t failed until it fails its elites. That pretty much describes the span of their intellectual capabilities.

    There has never been a system in history that has failed its elites. The elites are usually never affected by the failures of any system, and that’s why they fail to respond to the concerns of the ordinary people until it’s too late.

  65. @ThreeCranes

    All them “black rifles” got bought up by first time gun owners during the Black Lies Matter looting party, with a few boxes of 223 Rem factory ammo for every rifle. Didn’t take long to sell out everything. Real gun guys already have an AR or two, each rifle set up with a 1x red dot on QD mount plus another scope presighted, also on QD, extra mags, and they reload: couple thousand bullets, powder, primers and cases always on hand.

  66. @RoatanBill

    Very good comment, but still….

    It may have been planned that way, but there is/are still more than one “deep state” and not everyone within the military is or was complicit in the assassination of Kennedy etc.

    Of course, you may object that by that reasoning we can bifurcate all the way down to the individual person, but then we will have given up categories entirely and therefore conceptualization and understanding.

    And I would reply that, yes, but each stage gives us some insight inasmuch as each represents a stable, if temporary, state of affairs in the world.

    The answer to “Where does your lap go when you stand up?” is not that a lap is a delusion.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  67. @Francis Miville

    Sorry, but you have not done the research to support your debasing statement of the Palestinians being mere Arabs. Several years back a genomic study was made at Johns Hopkins which measured a cross-section of Palestinian DNA. The discovery was a mind-blower. Some 80% of the Palestinian genome is derived from that of the ancient Hebrews. When the Emperor Titus deported and scattered the elite Jewish rebels, they included only the economic and cultural elites. The hewers of wood, bearers of water, growers of crops, artisans and minor merchants were not molested. Their services were deemed useful for the Empire.

    Contrarily, the preponderance of American Jewery are not guilty of having more than a scintilla of ancient Hebrew ancestral DNA as the Askenazim were primarily descended from the Khazarian tribal nation and were converted en mass to Talmudism in around 840 Anno Domini. They have no “ancestral right” to Occupied Palestine whatsoforever.

    • Agree: Alfred
    • Replies: @Sirius
  68. PhilK says:

    Maybe I’m just a Pollyanna, but I don’t see any leftist (or rightist) coup coming up in the next few months. I’m pretty confident Trump will win soundly enough to discourage everyone except the antifa and bee-ell-emm freaks, who will go ape-shit for a short time, and then be put down hard. Those “not fucking around” clowns have never done anything except fuck around, and if they fuck around after the election, they’ll learn all about “fuck around and find out.” And I don’t see any group of Wesley Clark-type generals and admirals taking on the rest of the Pentagon, in service to Pelosi, Schumer and Pencilneck Schiff.

  69. Agent76 says:

    Oct 19, 2020 19Th anniversary of boots on the ground in Afghanistan

    Live at the grave of Gen. Smedley Butler.

    • Thanks: Biff
  70. Today’s commentariat has included but a relative handful of insightful observations and a whole lot of confused blather by the usual suspects.

    Though I have had my disagreements on some matters with Roatan Bill, he makes some good points about the gang of Brass-heads in the Pentagram. If they are of flag rank and work in the five-sided monstrosity in northern Virginia, most of them can be rightfully accused of violating their oaths of allegiance to the Constitution. Consider Operation Northwoods as R.B. pointed out.

    Or how about the deepest element in the deep state, the CIA. Their little Bay of Pigs operation was vetoed at a critical point by JFK. He refused to allow air support from either the Navy or Air Farce. Thus we have two elements, ensconced deep within the administrative infrastructure who had clear motivation to remove our last truly American president “with extreme prejudice”. Jim Fetzer and a posse of experts produced a fine book on the event of 11-22-63 in Dallas. Among the many photographs entered into evidence was one depicting a lanky man wearing a tan trench coat who was standing in front of the Texas School Book Depositary Building. That man was almost certainly none other than a man who became CIA since graduating from Yale–and from Skull n’ Bones, none other than Daddy WarBu\$h—fortunately the late GHW Bu\$h. Can you name America’s most powerful aircraft carrier? Perhaps you can come up with the name emblazoned on that infamous structure in Langley, Virginia?

    Alarmist asked Stalin’s rhetorical question as to how many divisions do the Brassheads in the Pentagram have. The answer is quite simple—ALL of them. However, generals do not command regiments. That is the realm of bird colonels. Same is true with battalions. They are led by majors.
    Down at the company level we are talking captains. It is within this middle officer class where there are still a not inconsiderable proportion of patriots. Non-com lifers of whatever racial or ethnic heritage tend to be country boys by background, with a considerable number of them being intensely patriotic. I’m wondering whether they are having quiet talks amongst the more levelheaded among their fellows—outdoors and without the presence of those tell-tale cellphones. Elite forces are a mixed bag. Some of them are intensely squared-away. Others are readily seduced by becoming mercenaries–contract workers for the Pentagram, getting the big-bucks for their taxpayer-sponsored military skill-sets.

    Comes to the Navy and we find some very savvy types–many of them intensely patriotic and extremely capable. The best among them are intensely aware of the fact that the missile which hit the Pentagon on 9-11-01 was precisely targeted to take out a naval intelligence unit which was working for the side of WE THE PEOPLE. They do not merely bear a grudge. Naval and Marine air may be essential in shushing off the Air Farce, which I regard as being the heirs of the Curtis LeMay/Lyman Lemnitzer “bomb em to oblivion” gang. Psychopathic sociopaths of the first water. The entire Air Farce needs to be abolished.

    Mad Dog Mattis is likely not at all representative of the Marine Corps: “Semper Fidelis”…always faithful. The true marines are not Pentagram Brassnoses. They follow in the traditions of General Smedley Butler–the most decorated gyrene ever and of Colonel “Chesty” Puller, who managed to extricate thousands of his troops along with army elements from the debacle at the Imjin Reservoir area in North Korea when the Chinese wave hit unprepared American units in the late winter of 1950.
    Most marines are a proud bunch. If push comes to shove they may well yell in unison “FUCK the chain of command”.

    Almost Missouri pointed out that those “blue” cities are totally dependent on rural America for virtually everything. Those places are totally vulnerable. The working stiffs who get the real jobs done for this country are not gonna roll over and take it. Consider what the long-distance semi drivers (whether employed by Walmart, Amazon or whoever) or even the few independents, might do if they find themselves as dismissible “deplorables”.

    Ralph Cramden noted the NRA and other Second Amendment guardians. Do you think they will allow a bunch of “wokers” and mama’s basement gameboyz along with ghetto-rats and left-out of common sense types to take down our country? He also states that many of the blacks in the military are from the South. That’s a whole nother breed from those pimped-up pushers with half a dozen baby-mamas for bragging rights. Doesn’t matter the race, most country boys still have a plentiful measure of common sense and a can-do attitude.

    Old Salt brings up the legions of military vets, ranging from the Korean conflict, through the Nam and into the U\$oA’s recent aggressions in Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria. They been through the mill and all too many of them got so messed over by the system and PTSD syndromes that they are suiciding in big numbers. What have those dudes got to lose?

    If the shit hits the fan, consider the job that one single battalion of marines could do at that building which was not hit by an airliner, but a missile on the day of the infamous Inside-Job—9-11-01.

    • Thanks: annamaria
    • Replies: @Alden
  71. Sirius says:
    @Majority of One

    Do you have a link to that study? I was unable to find it.

    • Replies: @Majority of One
  72. @ThreeCranes

    At the very top, there is only one deep state. It is a bureaucracy / mafia just like any other with multiple factions. There’s a ‘Don’ somewhere and it isn’t Donald Trump. There are mafia families, mafia councils, lieutenants, soldiers, consiglieri, etc that provide support services completely independent to what’s regarded as the official military and intel agencies.

    My guess is that the top military brass, in or out of service, is in control. It’s well known that the generals and equivalent are sought after for embedment within the weapons manufacturers and other key industries like the broadcast and social media, as well as big oil and big pharma. The corporations instinctively know who to hire to get their bread buttered by a compliant Congress completely subordinate to the control the deep state has on every member of the 3 branches of gov’t through the intel agencies snooping.

    Almost every member of Congress, every president, every Supreme Court justice for decades has been placed there by the deep state after it’s been able to find their skeleton closet. Only someone like Ron Paul might be the exception, but he amounts to a rounding error in their calculus.

    The (current estimate) \$21 Trillion was spent to further this scheme and to provide a lavish life style for the top players. That money was also used to build weapons systems we know nothing about and possibly entire armies of mercenaries on the payroll living in the underground cities that have been reported to exist as part of the continuity of government, out in the open scam. Every president since Eisenhower was made aware of how the cow ate the cabbage (Texas expression), as well as every significant member of Congress and the entirety of the asshats on the rubber stamp Supreme Court.

    This is obvious to me, given the military budgets proposed by ever administration since Eisenhower and how the PR effort to disallow any criticism of those brave murderers in the military. The media ALWAYS sides with the military as those dispassionate defenders of the dead Constitution and the brain damaged population would kiss their ass if they dropped their pants because they’re that stupid.

    The almost invisible military and their super secret decoder ring allies in the spook agencies have been in charge for most of my life and they’re not letting go regardless of the theater outcome this November.

    • Replies: @Ralph B. Seymour
  73. annamaria says:

    “This isn’t just about an election—it’s a blueprint for completing the Left’s anti-American Cultural Revolution.”
    Or, as you wrote, “The US elite is eager to impose on its own subjects what it has been imposing on people around the world for generations.”

    The zionized smart Alexes among wokes and the committed opportunists populating various ‘stink tanks’ cannot conjure a situation when the US has its food/electricity/water supply disrupted/broken. The enthusiastic ‘revolutionary’ dimwits and eager presstitutes are not able to envision a nation-wide disruption of critical services in the US. The inevitable consequence of the disruption will be the emergence of mobs of murderous thugs.

    At least, the former Soviets were prepared for hardship, and many were sturdy and flexible enough to survive the Harvard-boys-inspired wholesale looting of national resources and the ruining of large industries, which left millions without a job as well as without any state-sponsored social support net.

    Guess, a poor American education, married to American comforts, played a bad joke on the US citizenry of ‘liberal’ persuasion. The sturdy midwesterners and recent hardworking immigrants seem to be the only segment prepared to survive the disaster of disintegration.

    On a philosophical note, the US has been a gangster state for too long, and the rules of societal homeostasis have been violated in the US for too long, to remain a viable union. It is hard to detect any disciplined and loyal entity able to save the nation. The FED and MIC (both are heavily zionized) are not on a side of US citizenry at large. The Deciders do not like responsibility, yet without a swift response to errors and imbalance, an organism is doomed, including the living organism of human society.

  74. @follyofwar

    If the military brass refuses to enforce President Trump’s order if he invokes the Insurrection Act, then they are committing Sedition and are no better than a military junta in South America. They lose any semblance of legitimacy and are de facto rogue officers. Expect Civil War in that case.

    Trump had choices regarding Esper and Milley prior to the election. Fire them and he would face a hostile press that would smear him as a dictator. The same would have occurred had he declared the Insurrection Act and rolled over BLM/ANTIFA.

    Instead, he left the governors of the states affected to request assistance. We saw that several of them are tin-horned dictators themselves, declaring punitive and unconstitutional restrictions on the citizenry, while allowing the rioters to run wild. The Left tempted Trump to crush the rioters but Trump didn’t take their bait.

    If the Democrats initiate their uprising regardless of the election outcome, then under the State of Emergency powers, the president can federalize the National Guard in each state. If necessary, the Insurrection Act, Chapter 13 of Title 10 (10 USC Sections 251-255) allows the president to revoke posse comitatus to authorize the dispatch of active military troops to trouble spots.

    After the election Esper will be fired for insubordination. Trump had demanded the 82nd Airborne Immediate Response Force to quell a rebellion in the FEDERAL DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA that is directly governed by the Congress. The City government is authorized by the Congress. It has no defense such as a National Guard and must be defended by the U.S. Government. Burning the church across from the White House and the general threat to the White House escalated Trump’s demands for an immediate response. Milley objected and preferred the National Guard be called up. Reference material did not speculate on which National Guard unit would be called up.

    Milley was reported to have regretted going with the President to the church. He contemplated resignation. Quitting would have been better than remaining as a question mark as to whether he will obey lawful orders when issued. His participation walking to the church may have been uncomfortable, but it wasn’t illegal.

    The 200 retired flag officers that oppose Trump and speak ill of him put themselves in jeopardy under 10 U.S. Code Section 888 Art. 88 Contempt Towards Officials.

    “Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Homeland Security, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Commonwealth, or possession in which is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.” Common punishment is forfeiture of all pay and benefits including those granted in retirement.

    This applies to flag officers (generals, admirals) that are subject to active duty recall. Secretary Mattis crapped himself by publicly denouncing the President. Obama seeded the Pentagon with left wing generals, but they are not ubiquitous nor do they all have ground forces responsibilities. By no means are they assured that a large percentage of the military will follow their lead against a sitting president.

    As retired general Paul Vallely wrote: “disloyal left-wing (Democrats) retired Generals and Admirals are wrong and should not be tolerated. These are the same senior officers that could not win a war. America lost so many of its proud soldiers, sailors and airman and thousands wounded because of their flawed war-fighting strategies and policies (all documented). They have destroyed their reputation and credibility among the ranks and the Constitutional Patriots of America.”

    In 1834 Congress passed the Act for the Better Organization of the Marine Corps, stipulating that the Corps was part of the Department of the Navy as a sister service. Tradition has been, as a part of the defense of Washington DC by the Marines, that the unit serves “at the pleasure of the President.”

    All this jibber-jabber about juntas taking over and the military en masse rebelling against a sitting president exposes a deep ignorance of the tools of statecraft inherent in the Executive Branch. Each one of those who lift their arm in defiance of a lawful order will find themselves in the brig. There is simply no other man that has the personal wherewithal to lead a defeat of the executive power of the U.S. Presidency as currently configured.

    The silence in the room of blithering malcontents is occupied by men who swore to uphold their oath to their loyalty to the Constitution and to defend it against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Patriotic Americans know in their hearts what is needed to keep the Republic from crumbling.

    We have a President now who fights for them and this great country and will not permit anarchists and Socialists to destroy what our forefathers created. If malefactors rise against the government, there is a multitude of oath keepers that will put them down. Count on it.

    I have no more to say on this subject. I answered to add clarity, not to engage in a debate or writing club. Take your conspiracies and rebellion into the sunlight to see how vapid and empty they really are.

    • Replies: @Art
    , @Alden
  75. This color revolution that is going on in America is patterned on the zionist bolshevik revolution of 1917 in Russia and the same zionist bloodlines are involved in this revolution here in river city.

    It remains to be seen how bloody this bolshevik revolution will become and if the American people will wake up in time to avoid what happened in Russia in 1917.

    Time will tell.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Alden
  76. Notsofast says:

    ratcliffe has stated the intel community doesn’t have any evidence of russian involvement and has not shared any intelligence with schiff or any member of congress. how many times can they tell the
    same lie and have people believe it? they make putin look omnipotent, he must be really enjoying
    exacting his revenge without lifting a finger. well played, sir! geopolitical aikido

    • Agree: Agent76
    • Replies: @Agent76
  77. Miro23 says:

    Since there are more guns in the US than there are people – then if only 3% of the population (of 331 million) came out in the street – that would be around 10 million armed people in the street that could completely shut down US cities.

    The US military would then have some serious thinking to do, regardless of what orders they were receiving.

  78. Art says:

    A croup Brewing?

    Is anyone going to hold a coup for a crook?

    Biden is soiled forever.

  79. Lots of comments on ordinary soldiers NOT obeying supposed “orders” by the higher-ups to take down Trump. Folks, I do not like Trump, do not trust Trump, and do not think he’s better than Biden (but he might be better than Harris, the evil “black” version of Killary)… Yet, the notion of the soldiers not not obeying illegal orders makes sense, and here is where Russia comes into this—-
    Back during the Winter Palace “revolt” scenario prior to the February Revolution (which set up the Bolshevik one), military leaders ordered soldiers to fire on anti-war (WW1) protestors (most of whom were ordinary Russians in St. Petersberg where the Winter Palace was). Guess what happened? The soldiers, tired of the crapola of WW1, REFUSED ORDERS!

    So yes, this could happen here if the elites try to have Trump removed should he legitimately win the election (I mean, voting for Biden is one thing…but who in their right mind would vote for Harris? Not even most blacks like her! How many blacks, having served time in jail, did she have released when their time was up? Very very few! She hates blacks as well as whites! Plus she’s descended from a man in Jamaica that OWNED BLACK SLAVES!)

    • Replies: @throtler
  80. My prediction is that Demoncraps will steal the election and Trump, while he will grumble, will yield under the sage and virtuous counsel of Jared Kushner. His ever-so-loyal son-in-law will tell him Demoncraps have privately promised not to prosecute Trump or confiscate his assets. Of course, Trump will be prosecuted and have his assets confiscated, as will a large number of those who aided and abetted his feeble rebellion against GloboHomo. I’m pretty sure this is what’s going to happen because time and time again, Trump has shown he is a wimp. He’s not willing to deal the cockroaches the kind of treatment they deserve, and even if he suddenly becomes willing it will be too late. If he was ever going to fight them, he should have spent the last four years dislodging them from control of the machinery of government. Instead, he appointed contemptible swamp critters like James “Mad Dog” Mattis (obviously because he liked that nickname), Christopher Wray, and Bill Barr to key posts.

  81. @Liza

    So because Blue cities are destroying themselves, Red states must follow suit and destroy themselves too? What kind of dingbat logic is that?

    • Replies: @Liza
  82. ZenitFan says:

    Very thought-provoking article, but the author makes the wrong analogy at the outset. Trump is our version of Gorbachev, not Yeltsin. The Stalinist coup was against him, after he tried to restructure the sclerotic system (perestroika) and increase its transparency (glasnost) — essentially what Trump has been trying to do. Oh yeah — like Gorbachev, Trump has decided to get the last of our troops out of Afghanistan.

    Back in 2012 I learned an interesting statistic, courtesy of novelist (and ex-SEAL) Matt Bracken: there are ~100 deer hunters in the US for every armed federal agent. That’s just deer hunters; it totally excludes all other armed citizens. If just 0.25% of them were to hunt down and kill one agent apiece, so many of the rest would resign in panic that the regime would collapse from lack of enforcers. (What good is that juicy pension if you’re not alive to collect it?)

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  83. Anonymous[260] • Disclaimer says:

    a fair warning to any and all Coup conspirators…historically the coup may succed..BUT the plotters ruined themselves forever…so hopefully the MILITARY will remember their oath to the USA CONSTITUTION or they will never be trusted ever again..they may end up splitering the branches, troops vrs officers, North vrs South, white vrs black, etc. they will self inflict a profound irreparable wound upon themselves..

    • Replies: @annamaria
  84. “Trump may be disliked by top-level officers. But my sense is that he is popular with the rank-and-file.”

    I would think so. Ever since WWII and the construction of the World’s Biggest Office Building (aka the Pentagon), promotion has been less dependent on combat experience and almost entirely on bureaucratic politics (or “being clubbable” as the Brits would say), rather like academic tenure and promotion, or the corporate world.

    Apocalypse Now: “They were grooming [Kurtz] for a top position in the corporation.” [Cf. the CIA: “The Company”]

    The point is, I’m sure Critical Race Theory is only the formalized version of the “go along to get along” philosophy of sucking up to the boss and HR. Hence, the people at the top are the most well-trained in corporate PC gibberish, Wokism and virtue-signalling.

    Among the grunts, not so much. E.g., they know from experience that blacks make terrible, indeed dangerous soldiers and certainly bad leaders.

  85. Art says:
    @Ralph Cramden

    Trump had choices regarding Esper and Milley prior to the election.

    Trump must hold off on firing Milley until after he is inaugurated a second time in Jan 2021.

    Then it will be time for a mass firing of the MIC (military industrial complex) generals.

    • Replies: @Ralph Cramden
  86. There is no “leftist coup.” You people are all insane, and you allow yourselves to be whipped into an insane frenzy by covert ops agents just like the above one trying to get you all ready to shoot your neighbors.

    Meanwhile, the rich, who are neither left nor right, they are profits, steal all your money.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  87. Anon[125] • Disclaimer says:

    If Trump solidly wins on November 4th, and the Deep State attempts to steal the election by any means with success, the nation will be forever changed. Patriotism will die very quickly amongst normal white people, who will not be allowing their youth to sign up for the military in numbers that will astonish the Pentagon. Whites will en masse stop supporting the bread amd cicuses they are fed (bye Award shows, Hollywood, sports), and you will see economic warfare in the form of boycotts for real. Normal people dont attend political rallies and protests, but they do vote. Make their vote worthless and they will act.

  88. Liza says:
    @Almost Missouri

    @Almost Missouri. I didn’t mean it the way you interpret my comment but I can see why you took it the way you did. I didn’t express myself the way I wanted to.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
  89. anarchyst says:

    You are partially correct except for identity of the perpetrators of the JFK assassination. It is obvious that the israeli mossad was responsible for the assassination of JFK.
    JFK had little love for israel and wanted the jews to “come clean” on their rogue nuclear program.
    JFK insisted that israel conform to IAEA nuclear guidelines as to accountability and to the type and quantity of nukes–something israel was unwilling to do.
    israel’s acquisition of nuclear materials was done outside official channels, most of it being stolen (something jews are good at).
    Lee Harvey Oswald was a patsy who couldn’t shoot straight…

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  90. anarchyst says:

    For a good read, obtain “Unintended Consequences” by John Ross.
    In it, you will find history and law lessons and a reasonably good story, as well as possible solutions as to our present situation with an out-of-control bureaucracy.
    Original hard-bound copies are available from various sources, has been reprinted and is available as a PDF on the internet.
    Yes, the number of American deer hunters eclipses the U S military, and yes, even the Chinese military, not to forget the recreational firearms enthusiasts.
    The Yamamoto quote about an armed American “behind every blade of grass” rings very true.

  91. @TKK

    Great post! I take solace in the idea that the fury of The Right has yet to be unleashed. Used to think a rogue banana democracy like stalinfornia legalizing pedophilia might be the spark in the powderhouse, but now even that doesn’t seem likely to rouse a revolt.

    The Chinese/Yiddish/Eskimo curse, May you live in interesting times may have peaked.

    • Thanks: TKK
  92. anarchyst says:

    The “oath” that every military person takes has no expiration date…

  93. Anonymous[331] • Disclaimer says:

    I think what’s happening in the US is more 1917 than 1991.

  94. @Almost Missouri

    “If the Red Staters decline to provide Blue cities with food, water, fuel, electricity, heat and public order, those Blue Towns will immediately spiral into orgies of darkness, panic, looting, and violence, followed quickly by dehydration, starvation and mass exodus or extinction. ”

    It’s that “exodus” part that is troubling.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    , @Russ
  95. @anarchyst

    That the Israeli’s had a hand in the JFK assassination wouldn’t surprise me at all. Your bread crumbs of evidence do form a plausible path leading up to the murder.

    However, the mere fact that the Israeli’s got their fissionable material from the US must mean US complicity at the highest levels with actual physical access to the stockpile. That can only be the US military or the labs they control and guard with US troops.

    Therefore, I would submit that the US military was in the lead of getting rid of JFK and one of the reasons other than Cuba and war mongering could have been messing with their lucrative ‘business’ deals such as selling US enriched material, much like the CIA selling / trading weaponry to the narcotics traffickers and Islamist loonies in the ME, for example.

    The entire clandestine movement of money by the pallets full, weapons by the ship load, human and drug trafficking using private CIA owned airlines and diplomatic channels, etc are all reasons to believe that the US military and their intel offshoots are the top criminals in the world and the US citizenry also pays their pensions.

    • Replies: @Robjil
    , @annamaria
  96. @Sirius

    Sorry,but it’s been maybe seven years and I no longer possess my old data. One of the more independent search-engines may have it. McGoogs will have erased it most likely. And good luck with Wikipedia as the Hasbara and Sayanim have had their way with it. You might want to check out a reasonably up-front Jewish site on their most common ancestors: “’”. Loaded with information and this bunch is proud of their actual heritage.

  97. @Liza

    Okay. Sorry to have been curt.

    • Replies: @Liza
  98. bruce county says:

    I hope the loyal veterans know where to go, how to get there, and what to do the first week of November.

    I hope that’s the case.
    Is the silent majority going to step up to plate one more time for the shit show?
    Either way no one is going to take this lightly and the press will keep lying.
    Be safe brothers and sisters.
    Watching from Canada.

  99. Druid55 says:

    Going back to your old anti-muslim ranting self, i see. You haven’t changed. Still a thalmoudist rat!

    • Replies: @TKK
  100. Robjil says:

    After JFK, “Israel first” has been the game plan. This alone points to Israel being the main culprit for his assassination.

    USS Liberty could not have happened with JFK in office. LBJ approved of it. It happened on June 8 1967.

    A 2002 BBC Documentary includes interviews with the Liberty’s crew, Israeli officials, and even Robert McNamara, the U.S. Secretary of Defense at the time.

    “I was never satisfied with the Israeli explanation,” then-Secretary of State Dean Rusk said of the Liberty Incident “Their sustained attack to disable and sink Liberty precluded an assault by accident or some trigger-happy local commander. … I didn’t believe them then, and I don’t believe them to this day. The attack was outrageous.”

    9 11 was the second Israel first game. This time it “worked”.

    “We are benefiting from the attack on the twin towers & Pentagon and the American struggle in Iraq.”“Once we squeeze out of the U.S., it can dry up & blow away.”Israeli Prime Minister, Ben Netanyahu.

  101. Liza says:
    @Almost Missouri

    Thanks. Least said, soonest healed!

  102. @Art

    I agree. I also think Barr will be shown the door for not getting any indictments before the election. Subtle but effective, Barr ran out the clock. Trump is fuming about it.

  103. Unlike a lot of pro-Trump people I think Trump will be soundly defeated in the coming election and will not resist the results. Whether the election is honest or not I don’t know but all the polls show a Trump defeat and they are not all fixed or wrong–nor were they that far off in ’16 for the popular vote. Only a spectacular degree of incompetence by the Clinton campaign brought Trump into office.

  104. Anon[226] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ralph Cramden


  105. @Robjil

    There’s no real way to know the warped minds of the evil bastards that run things.

    I could look at it from strictly the money side and then proclaim that the US uses Israel to create the havoc that sells weaponry around the entire middle east. There Israel itself wouldn’t matter, just the weapons sales it helps facilitate.

    The truth is probably ‘all of the above’ in a smorgasbord of options maybe with different weightings per line item. Who knows?

    • Agree: TKK
    • Replies: @annamaria
  106. @Juri

    I just came to this thread. Yours is the first post as of yet that sounds like it’s from a Russian with the experience. At least, your grammar makes it sound authentic. ;-}

    (It reads like old Mac Slavo of the SHTFPlan from a decade ago. Then, he either got an editor or learned to write in English.)

    • Replies: @Juri
  107. Agent76 says:

    This qoute by *W* says it all, “You can fool some of the people all the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on.” George W. Bush

  108. TKK says:

    Because I don’t feel warm and gooey toward a value system that saws off people’s heads because of a cartoon?

    I’m ok with it.

  109. @OldSaltUSNR

    Again, this isn’t blowhard “militia” bunk; I know of what I speak.

    Yes, it is. I too know of what I speak.

    the POLITICAL leadership of the Communist affiliated socialists, will be the first to die.

    Right there you’ve proven that you and your pot-bellied, pre-diabetic associates at the local VFW/gun store haven’t a clue.

    • Agree: Alden
  110. @Chris Cosmos

    I agree. A lot of these post-election scenario-izations assume the Left’s claim that Trump won’t leave office voluntarily. The Left have been wrong about everything else; why would they suddenly be right about this? After all, if there has been one hallmark of Trump’s last four years, it is how effortlessly he has submitted to the Swamp’s actualities. 99% of his anti-Swamp agenda that he ran on in 2016 went overboard once he got into office and has disappeared without a trace. A few scraps reappeared before each of the last two elections, but it wasn’t enough to save the House for the GOP in 2018 and it may not be enough to save the White House next month.

    Consider the 2016 campaign, in which Trump told Hillary to her face that she would “be in jail” and during which he joined in chants of “Lock her up!” Everyone, including me, got a little excited. Maybe one of these smug plutocrats would finally pay a price for her crimes. But then, literally just a few minutes after winning the election, Trump addressed his supporters. The first thing he said:

    “Hillary has worked very long and very hard over a long period of time, and we owe her a major debt of gratitude for her service to our country. I mean that very sincerely. ”


    “Now it is time for America to bind the wounds of division … blah, blah, blah …”

    Since then, prosecutions = zero.

    I don’t find it hard at all to imagine that absent a clear cut victory (a very likely result), Trump will just say, “yeah whatever, you know what folks? It’s been great being your President and we’ve achieved great things together. Now is the time to recognize the legitimacy of this election and give the other side a chance to carry on the torch of achievement as it passes form our hands … blah, blah, blah … Good luck and God bless!” [Exits to Mar-a-Lago.]

    The Left will rationalize it as behind-the-scenes heroes forcing dictator Trump to accept the election’s “legitimacy”. They’ll overlook the fact that he was never a dictator in the first place and that he in fact accepted nine tenths of the Left’s agenda. The Left worked itself into a lather over the other one tenth and finally got its way in the end.

    But this time the prosecutions might really happen. Just against the other side.

  111. @Jim Bob Lassiter

    It’s that “exodus” part that is troubling.

    Agree. That is the part that will determine the nature and future of the United States.

    Will the net result of all that chaos be a genuine reckoning, a recognition of the consequences of the comprehensive failure of liberalism and the comprehensive failure of the Blues as people, a failure so profound they cannot possibly participate in future political arrangements?

    Or will the net result of all that chaos simply be the accelerated Blueing of Red states as Blue refugees move into Red communities?

    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
  112. Adûnâi says: • Website

    I have done a quick ctrl+F search for “1993”, and – big surprise – found nothing.

    Yeltsin was a Christian capitalist Jew dog, and later on would go on to open fire on the democratically-elected Duma in the 1993 coup d’état. The dissolution of the USSR in 1991 was the triumph of the globohomoexualists. The USSR had been a White ethnostate by and large.

  113. Ruckus says:

    Lol NSA, it’s Depend diapers, not Depends and it’s “always” been that way. Y U no Mandela???

  114. @anonymous

    Perhaps what you describe was the actual plan, or perhaps it was only the advertised plan. Why risk having survivors who might later become whistle blowers. The Turkey is always the last one to know about the real Thanksgiving plans.

  115. Russ says:
    @Jim Bob Lassiter

    “If the Red Staters decline to provide Blue cities with food, water, fuel, electricity, heat and public order, those Blue Towns will immediately spiral into orgies of darkness, panic, looting, and violence, followed quickly by dehydration, starvation and mass exodus or extinction. ”

    It’s that “exodus” part that is troubling.

    Herein lies the most fruitful wargaming, methinks.

    The GOP in general and Trump 2016 in particular won overwhelming numbers of counties in the country. The Left, by contrast, owns the large cities. Ergo, how best to isolate the cities? Many interesting solutions exist; some weak, some potent.

  116. @RoatanBill

    The brain damaged population!

    This is the problem.

    Every time I come to the US, and I come a lot, it becomes more apparent to me that the people are completely stupid.

  117. @Robjil

    Agree, see this book Blood in the Water by Joan Mellen on the Israeli and ZUS attack on the USS Liberty, it can be had on amazon, and I have it , and it is the best book on the attack on the Liberty, she interview over 40 survivors and dozens of others in the know.

    • Thanks: Robjil
  118. karel says:

    Get infected to test the west. Fatten yourself up beforehand to increase your chance of collecting life insurance.

  119. @KenH

    Blax in the Army and the USMC are the cooks, clerks, and bottle-washers. The closer you get to the tip of the spear, the paler and maler the ground forces become. Special Operators in all services are overwhelmingly white:

    • Replies: @Alden
  120. @Alden

    Maybe things will shake down just the way we expected–that is, were we able to see it coming.

    At hand, a vehicle speeding in a relative direction stays on the road as it whips from side-to-side; it avoids the left hand ditch and swings the other way pinned by lateral forces while veering to the right. Does it continue like this, does it stop, and if so, on what side and under what terms?

    Indeed we “always thought the power grab would come from the left” –didn’t we always say that? Yet if we could know how it will happen, maybe we wouldn’t say that.

    Imagine a world to your delight where order materializes blowing aside and assunder all delusional fools and their folly. Served them right and we’ll drink to that, correct? Careful what we wish for, careful who fulfills our dream, careful which side of the road we now exit that vehicle forever, as we have just realized that our road, as we knew it for the last 250 years–is now gone.

  121. aandrews says:

    I recommend listening to the last eight minutes(-ish) of this conversation. It’s rather interesting. Things that can’t go on, don’t.

  122. Richard B says:

    The military the rank and file is heavily black

    The US Military is still majority White male. And, since this is a PC-Free platform we can say what everyone already knows. Black = Incompetent. A simple fact that a glance at any inner-city across the country makes perfectly obvious.

    That’s not to underestimate the damage they can do. It’s simply to focus on an important aspect of their participation, ie; their incompetence.

    But, when push comes to shove, the USA will more and more reflect a Prison Yard where everything is about race. To the extent this happens then, yes, Whites and Latinos will mostly side with each other against blacks.

    In any event, even if The Hostile Elite wins, and they very well might, the best they’ll ever manage is a Pyrrhic Victory.

  123. aandrews says:

    Drudge definitely seems like he’s trying to gaslight his Republican-voting readership.

  124. Juri says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Good observation. I am former Soviet Union citizen , who was on the streets in august 1991…:D

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  125. @Juri

    Thank you for your input then, Juri. I enjoyed this article by Mr. Allensworth – it’s not the usual material from VDare, one of my favorite sites, where I read it first. VDare writers, along with the many decent unz writers, write about the problems and often (in VDare’s case) about the political solution to said problems. However, I don’t think the solution, if any, will be a political one. The ctrl-left is not amenable to that.

    We can learn a lot from the various upheavals and revolutions of recent history. Americans are complacent, as I wrote in another thread regarding financial pain to come, because you’d have to be 80 years old or older to even remember any time where there significant numbers of people in economic and other hardship within the country. People think “it can’t happen here”, whatever big upheaval “it” is.

    Anyway, it was the lack of articles (the parts of speech) in your comment that made it sound even more authentic. I used to read the prepper sites, and probably should keep that up – Mac Slavo has his SHTFPlan site, and I often figured his misuse of grammar was on purpose to make him sound authentic (though, it’s not that I think he isn’t). His experience is from the Balkans war in what used to be Yugoslavia.

  126. annamaria says:

    The US military has forfeited its oath to US Constitution. See Vindman cancan.

    • Agree: Alden
  127. @ZX

    “He has done everything they (Likud wing of Kosher Nostra) want. I wonder also if the Biden hard drive October surprise also was planned last year to put Trump back in.”

    Indeed. All the world’s a stage, and all the politicians merely players. If you want to change things, target the producer and director.

  128. annamaria says:

    Sir, why don’t you investigate the relationships between the Clinton/Obama clan and the CIA/FBI bosses and leading operatives?
    Take a book and read about the Bolshevik revolution in Russia; this will considerably expand your educational horizons. Pay attention to the fact that the Bolshevik revolution was financed by American financiers.

    Jacob Schiff was head of the New York investment firm Kuhn, Loeb and Co. He was one of the principal backers of the Bolshevik revolution and personally financed Trotsky’s trip from New York to Russia. He was a major contributor to Woodrow Wilson’s presidential campaign and an advocate for passage of the Federal Reserve Act.

    Next you might want to know the role of the FED in the demise of the US:

    the FED, which is a privately owned company, controls and profits by printing money through the Treasury, and regulating its value. … The FED’s books are not open to the public. Congress has yet to audit it. … Under the Federal Reserve Bank Act, the bankers control our economy.

    • Replies: @By-tor
  129. annamaria says:

    A never-mentioned inconvenient fact in US history:

    On June 4, 1963, a little known attempt was made to strip the Federal Reserve Bank of its power to loan money to the government at interest. On that day President John F. Kennedy signed Executive Order No. 11110 that returned to the U.S. government the power to issue currency, without going through the Federal Reserve. Mr. Kennedy’s order gave the Treasury the power “to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury.” This meant that for every ounce of silver in the U.S. Treasury’s vault, the government could introduce new money into circulation. In all, Kennedy brought nearly \$4.3 billion in U.S. notes into circulation. The ramifications of this bill are enormous.

    With the stroke of a pen, Mr. Kennedy was on his way to putting the Federal Reserve Bank of New York out of business. If enough of these silver certificates were to come into circulation they would have eliminated the demand for Federal Reserve notes. This is because the silver certificates are backed by silver and the Federal Reserve notes are not backed by anything. Executive Order 11110 could have prevented the national debt from reaching its current level, because it would have given the government the ability to repay its debt without going to the Federal Reserve and being charged interest in order to create the new money. Executive Order 11110 gave the U.S. the ability to create its own money backed by silver.

    After Mr. Kennedy was assassinated just five months later, no more silver certificates were issued.

    The CIA and Zion have been inseparable for a long time.

    In 1950 a man named Reuven Shiloah, the founder of Israel’s first intelligence organization, came to Washington. He visited the CIA and he came away very impressed with how it was organized. He went back to Israel and, in April 1951, he created out of a very fractious collection of security forces … Mossad, Hebrew for “institute.”

    In 1951 Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion came to the United States and brought Shiloah with him. Ben-Gurion met privately with President Truman, and Angleton arranged for Ben-Gurion to also have lunch with his friend Allen Dulles, who would shortly become the director of the CIA. …

    Angleton’s formative and sometimes decisive influence on U.S. policy toward Israel can be seen in many areas—from the impotence of U.S. nuclear non-proliferation policy in the region, to Israel’s triumph in the 1967 Six-Day War, to the feeble U.S. response to the attack on the Liberty, to the intelligence failure represented by the Yom Kippur War of 1973.

  130. fnn says:

    MSM loves Antifa and associates.

  131. @annamaria

    I’m well aware of that EO. I only listed a small fraction of the evidence that points to the US military and their hangers on as THE ‘deep state’.

    Just recently, the independent journalist, Millie Weaver, uploaded a video that details how the US military is behind much of the shenanigans but seems to never be identified by the MSM. Then, Millie got arrested and hasn’t been heard of since. That’s how the ‘bad guys’ treat people – they disappear them. This is now common practice in the US and in Europe where they throw you in jail for speech or for publishing a book.

    We should all face the fact that the western gov’ts are all soft police states at present and the trajectory portends vicious totalitarianism in the not too distant future. The simple minded that keep voting for this or that cretin are deluding themselves that there is a savior that will ride in on his white horse (sorry for the racism) and save the fair maiden. It’s just ludicrous bullshit and the proles eat it up.

    • Thanks: Alden
  132. @annamaria

    On the return flight from Dallas on 11-22-63 the very first act that newly installed president Lyndon Baines Johnson took was to rescind JFK’s Executive Order 10001 which had created those \$2 United States notes. The deal was in. This was proof. Johnson, who had several Tribal ancestors swimming around in his gene-pool, was acting on behalf of his ultimate superiors, the Rothschild Crime Clan, primary owners of the usurious “Federal” Reserve Bank. JFK had pissed off a host of powerful people, but his action on behalf of a return to a Constitutional money system was the legendary straw which broke the camel’s back.

    The arch-traitor LBJ further revealed his true allegiances when he absolutely refused the US Navy to send fighter support to drive off the Israeli planes which were attacking the USS Liberty during the 1967 war, This was an act of highest treason.

    The LBJ Library ought to be stripped of all of its memorabilia and then demolished. LBJ should be exhumed from his grave and then the desiccated corpse ought to be hanged by the neck along the Capital Mall as an example as the ultimate fate of those betrayers of their oath of office to the Republic.

    • Replies: @Alden
  133. Agent76 says:

    Oct 17, 2020 Eight Million In Poverty: FAILURE Of The Political Class!

  134. @Marco polo

    When the time comes, I think the cops will carry out their orders. Look how they don’t seem to mind persecuting pro-life demonstrators. Many of them will do it with relish.

  135. Alden says:
    @Majority of One

    I agree. The coup happened November 22 1963 1:30 pm central time when communist Jewish front became president. It all followed, civil rights for all but Whites act, unlimited non White immigration and the No Whites Need Apply Act.

    Even more important was the funneling if hundreds of billions of federal dollars to communist Jewish front groups; feminazis, and all the radicals of the Johnson Nixon administration who took over the entire country by the 1990s and will soon retire so their even more radical and anti White racist successors can take charge of the final solution.

    Had Kennedy not been killed and Johnson never became President it would have happened a few years later.

    I would like to suggest everyone look st the dozens of YouTube’s by Diana West, author of Red Thread and numerous other books about Jewish communists in government in the last 130 years.

    Perfect Christmas presents by the way,

  136. Alden says:

    Combat troops are overwhelmingly White. But the lifer sergeants are heavily black in the army. So are the warehouse workers motor pool logistics and support army support troops. Just sayin.

  137. Alden says:
    @Desert Fox

    You’re exactly right. The grandchildren of the first Jewish immigrant communists who founded CPUSA in the Jewish Capitol NYC were the 1960 70s radicals. They, their children and now grandchildren have run the country since the 1990s.

    • Replies: @Desert Fox
  138. @Alden

    The zionists aka bolsheviks have via their privately owned Fed, have taken over America and this started with their fastening their money creation counterfeiting machine on America in 1913 and then came the wars and debt, until the FED is abolished and we return to constitutional debt free money the zionist choke hold on America will remain.

    Now they want to finish us off and they are using UN Agenda 2030 and the covid-19 scam, lie, hoax and psyop, to do the job, covid-19 ie certificate of vaccination ID-19 is the greatest scam in the history of the world and with this they are springing a zionist bolshevik revolution on top of the covid psyop.

    I recommend the book The Controversy of Zion by Douglas Reed can be had on amazon, and google and read The Protocols of Zion.

  139. Alden says:

    Good points. California harvests staples like rice and wheat year round. But it’s already snowed in the far north states where a lot of the wheat and potatoes are grown. Plus some years heavy fall rains turn the fields to mud. Whatever, different locales different weather different crops Kansas and Nebraska have long warm dryish falls, harsh winters

    There’s an area in Richmond Ca and other east of San Francisco Bay town’s where major freeways and railroads converge. There’s miles and miles of food warehouses for the supermarkets that supply N and Central Ca with food. There’s also miles of enormous gasoline tanks in the same industrial area. For the same reason huge market and transport hub. Allegedly there’s enough flour rice beans and canned food in those warehouses and gas tanks for 5 years. Residue of Cold War and even WW2 planning for the Bay Area.

    BTW, I also know the exact location of the San Francisco underground disaster enemy occupation city hall headquarters. Kind of useless because the enemy took over SF city hall 50 years ago.

    If I were running an insurrection I’d have my people in place there long before we seized the big city halls and county buildings and state capitols. Family company could take down the Bay Area electricity and even the google, Facebook and other Silicon Valley big data centers because we built them. If officials vacated city hall, I’d know where to find them.

    But we won’t. We’ll just bloviate in the internet like everybody else.

    At least I know where the food and gasoline supply for about 15 million people is stored. And I know the men who are building the data centers. I know where city hall fire sheriff and police headquarters is if the officials vacate their buildings. We even have a SFO airport contract.

    Unlike other bloviators who just think they and their rifles with no money, leadership organization planning or contacts or even knowing where their local county building is can take back the country.

    A better analogy to the present situation in America is not the Russian situation in 1991. Our civil war and the whiskey rebellion are better analogies . The secessionists succeeded for a while because they had European money, the backing of the southern elites and a well organized militia plus numerous American army soldiers from generals to privates joined the secessionists and because of planning and organization were able to seize army and navy bases and armories at the beginning. Plus the secessionists had been organizing about 12 years.

    Contrast that with the whiskey rebellion. No money, little planning and organization and viciously put down by the elites.

    Historically, I can’t think of one city that’s ever been conquered by stalwart peasants. It was always sieges by organized well armed armies. Wat Tyler never got to London. The Calvinists sacked looted and burned Munster Germany but the city was shortly retaken by the government army. Same with the French Huguenots who looted and burnt Bruges. City was retaken in a week. The Indians conquered Deerfield Mass in the 1600s for a few days but left.

    • Replies: @Miro23
  140. annamaria says:

    JFK and the zionized CIA:

    Pedatzer: “The murder of American president John F. Kennedy brought to an abrupt end the massive pressure being applied by the U.S. administration on the government of Israel to discontinue their nuclear program. … Kennedy made it quite clear to the Israeli Prime Minister that he would not under any circumstances agree to Israel becoming a nuclear state.”

    After JFK was murdered:

    In Kennedy’s last fiscal budget year of 1964, Israeli aid was \$40 million. In LBJ’s first budget of 1965, it soared to \$71 million, and in 1966 more than tripled from two years earlier to \$130 million.

    Quite unfortunately for Jack Kennedy, as well as the nation, the highest levels of the U.S. Government were populated with many more who were inclined toward the latter. These men would not be denied their wars and especially not their war-profiteering. Nor would they be thwarted in their attempt to create a New World Order using the USA as the military arm of a One World Government. …

    Given this ‘setting’ it is much easier to understand why the CIA was the primary coordinating agency behind the assassination setup, takedown and coverup. Only they had the power, the black budget, and the worldwide network to implement such a complex execution plan, convoluted post-assassination game plan and complicated coverup. The CIA also had the greatest interest in the success of the coup d’état, functioning as the chief enforcement agency for the entire Military-Industrial Complex as they do.

    • Thanks: Robjil
  141. Alden says:
    @John of another mother

    Have you planned how to get yourself and your weapons to Washington? Do you know where the military bases in and around DC are?

  142. annamaria says:
    @Chris Cosmos

    “Only a spectacular degree of incompetence by the Clinton campaign…”

    — You mean, like shoveling the popular Sanders away and hiring a foreign agent Mr. Steele to work harmoniously with the CIA/FBI bosses (beholden to the mega war profiteers and mega-financiers) on a creeping color revolution within the US.
    This is not incompetence. A proper word is Treason.

  143. Alden says:
    @Majority of One

    The man the …….s claim is President Bush standing in front of the book depository building is not wearing a tan trench coat. He’s wearing a suit and white shirt.

    The pictures are all black and white many shades of gray. No color including tan It was like 75 in Dallas that day. Not trench coat weather.

    He’s a generic medium sized age uncertain white man in a suit that looks light gray because it’s a black and white photo. Or photo shopped in later by a ………

  144. annamaria says:

    The honorable Colonel Patrick Lang would disagree with you (see his blog Sic Semper Tyrannis). He is an ultimate expert in Middle East politics and a fiery patriot; his undivided loyalty is to the US.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  145. @annamaria

    Patriotism and nationalism are, as yet, undiagnosed mental disorders.

    Why would I care about what some uniformed licensed murderer has to say?

    • Replies: @annamaria
  146. @Almost Missouri

    The “exodus” people will not go through the mental processes of “genuine reckoning” or “recognition” of anything that you have set forth. They will just be “hongry”, in need of more free shit and out to kill Whitey. They will have killed off all of the White liberals capable of those thought processes who failed to get out of the urban areas while the getting was good.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
  147. @Liza

    A single death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic – Stalin

    • Agree: Liza
  148. throtler says:

    Trump is better than Biden. Biden is a liar and a traitor. He also has senile dementia. He will carry out far-left policies. Harris is horrible. She is ant-white. She will give black people even more unfair advantages than they already have. She would be a disaster.

  149. Ricko says:

    “Trump may be disliked by top-level officers. But my sense is that he is popular with the rank-and-file.”

    Don’t be so sure about the rank and file supporting Trump. Obama has been reported to have replaced a large number of the US army officer core. And then we had Bush junior and Clinton before him, both not-very-bright Globalist shills.

    If the Democrats are planning a coup, we have to believe they are not running into it blind and unprepared. And if you read their Transition Integrity Project you’ll be left with no option but to believe they are seriously contemplating a coup d’etat in the immediate aftermath of the election.

    The best we can hope for is that the Ultra Elite that controls the Dems have overshot themselves; that they have promoted extra stupid people to the hierarchy of the Democrat Party. And that these very naive people, drunk on arrogance, have lost the run of themselves.

    See Biden and his crackhead son for an example of drunken arrogance. And see how large sections of the US media refuses to report on the leaked emails for more insane drunken arrogance.

    If, on the other hand, the Democrats are simply following orders given to them by the Ultra Elite then the US could well have a few very dark years ahead.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
    , @Alden
  150. anonymous[325] • Disclaimer says:

    The rabidly deplorable side in this contest is clearly getting desperate. These essays trying to save that evil degenerate orange clown are pathetic. Don’t you deplorables have any shame?

    If indeed the lesser deplorable side is attempting a coup, don’t you see it is better than the literal LOWLIFE who leads that evilest of nations?

  151. anonymous[325] • Disclaimer says:

    steering the nation, and the entire West, back toward Christ and Christendom.

    That has nothing to do with woke or non-woke side winning or losing.

    The basis for Christendom is pagan polytheist godlessness. It is a cursed ideology. Why do you insist on propagating this heretical pestilence? Can’t you see the entire faith depends on extremely dubious claims.

    Would you consider Falwell Jr a “woke”? Don’t give me shit about WASP as a judaising heresy. The spiritual existence of the western civilization has always been all about heresy.

    • Agree: Alden
  152. Anon[324] • Disclaimer says:

    The red lines are certainly muddy, and I have no idea if these red lines are “for real”

    But I’ll try and differentiate my perceived red lines:

    Guns grabbing: Forced confiscation. That hasn’t happened yet.

    Forced vaccination: Specifically of the rushed, poorly-tested SARS2 vaccine.

    Forced internment: Specifically of white Americans for the crime of believing in what the founders believed.

    Foreign troop landings: Specifically NATO, Chinese, or Russian troops invited by communists posing as Democrats.

    You can gaslight all you want but 2020 is historic, and unlike anything that ever has happened in the past.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  153. @Jim Bob Lassiter

    Right. The choice of having recognition and a reckoning is a choice the Red Staters will have to make as the Blue refugees bear down on them. Will they recognize and reckon with the beast, in which case some long-term settlements can begin to be made? Or will they respond to media calls to welcome refugees and “acknowledge” their “victimhood”, in which case the Blues will have succeeded (again) in colonizing Red exurbs?

  154. @Anon

    What a great idea – keep restricting your view of the world till you go blind and you won’t see anything.

    Why didn’t I think of that?

  155. @Ralph Cramden

    When the time comes, I think the cops will carry out their orders. Look how they don’t seem to mind persecuting pro-life demonstrators. Many of them will do it with relish.

  156. @Ralph Cramden

    When the time comes, I think the cops will carry out their orders. Look how they don’t seem to mind persecuting pro-life demonstrators. Many of them will do it with relish.

    As for Mussolini’s fate, remember that he had been in power since the ’20s, without significant opposition. He only wound up on that meat hook after the Allies had invaded and his regime had fallen. Only then did all those Italian patriots find it safe enough to spit on his corpse. I fear the same will be the case here, only there’s no liberating invader on the horizon.

    • Agree: Alden
  157. Alden says:

    You’re right about the military. Sometimes I believe the people who comment about patriot Whites in the military and lack of influence of the black support troops and sergeants in logistics transport and supply haven’t been in the military at all.

    Somebody, many somebodys, from generals to truck loaders are involved in getting the warriors to the fighting front.

    Were I in the military I’d be very very careful about even talking about helping Trump against a coup for fear it was just another entrapment set up and ending up like Randy Weaver.

    • Thanks: Ricko
  158. Miro23 says:

    Unlike other bloviators who just think they and their rifles with no money, leadership organization planning or contacts or even knowing where their local county building is can take back the country.

    Lack of organization and leadership is an issue.

    For example, the Bolsheviks (Russia 1917 + Germany 1919) were almost professional revolutionaries. They were well organized, well financed and had been cooking their revolutions for years with their failed agitations. Their October 1917 Russia coup attempt was successful, but it needed a mighty amount of organization and propaganda to pull it off.

    Similarly, Hitler and his German National Socialists were active and well organized with wealthy backers. They tested propaganda, disrupting Bolshevik meetings and refined anti-Bolshevik techniques (often copied from the Bolsheviks themselves). Hitler also had his failed coup (Beer Hall Putsch 1923).

    The completely disorganized US mob looks more like Rwanda 1994 except that they are carrying firearms rather than machetes.

    • Agree: annamaria
    • Replies: @Juri
    , @Alden
  159. Juri says:

    Well said….and most important, they were snowflake human right activists and nobody took them seriously before 1917.

    Lenin attack to Winter Palace was considered so irrelevant that even Petrograd newspapers did not reported. Like today Antifa invasion into some municipal building is no big deal. This attack became important only later when people realized what really happened.

    50 to 100 strong gangs, formed from criminals, homosexuals, psychopaths, intellectuals and college students kicked few law abiding state employees out of building. No big deal, but it happened all over the country and entire state apparatus ceased to exist.

    Later Stalin crabbed power, killed liberals and replaced them with technocrats and from there we know ice cold eyes KGB apparatchiks.

    But real revolution was made and Russian Civil war was won by Antifa, sexual deviants, ethnic minorities, women and other weirdos who wiped away millions of WW I experienced Christian white males with guns.

    Normally society has some 2% of the psychopaths, people with other metal diseases, sexual perverts and just garbage filth. But when you rally them up you get millions strong fanatic army who wipe away normal people who can`t organize or even understand what is going on .

    What you have right now is exactly what we had in the 1917. 100 Antifa attack municipality, another 20 local phone company, some cut off the cables. And you have local government gone, communication down , because of not understanding, law enforcement is as helpless as Russian Empire one. As we know form history, lot of known liberals were from Czarist Army or police so now we know that our law enforcement was full of liberals long before 1917.

    So law enforcement was impotent and had high thrust of their liberal colleagues’ Basically Russian Empire went down because nobody could understand that they have liberal in their battalion or police station or municipality or wherever. Yes, they noticed that some of their co workers are , how to say, weird but because all people are equal, they considered that people in uniforms or benches supposed to be at least mostly good.

    Russian revolution succeeded because of coworkers class mates, poets and other friends. Yes, he is a little bit weird but he will never do something horrible so nothing to worry or to suspect.

    Even author of this piece can`t understand You have 1917 not 1991. You are not going out from full Soviet, you are going in.

    • Replies: @Alden
  160. GoodTwin says:

    I’m not sure if I see any way for a counter-coup to take place given the pathetic weakness of the GOP and how they only back Trump at a minimal level. Compare that to the current state of the Dems who will carry water for Biden and Harris, both with records of abusing their power to target Blacks. Trump hints that he might not consider the White race fundamentally evil and the neocon establishment decides he is Hitler. No, the Whites and their allies are not going to be able to organize any kind of resistance in a hot civil war if they can’t even have a political party. I don’t know of any Civil Wars that didn’t involve parts of the mainstream political establishment going rogue, unless it is situation like Iraq where an invasion just happened.
    That said, the US is going to be dismantled piece by piece and if Whites manage to get some political traction following a Trump victory we could be set up pretty in the wreckage. We have a lot of geographical advantages compared to Russia and not nearly as many enemies on our borders so in the long run I am optimistic that remnants of America will carry on at least as well as the remnants of the Soviet Empire.

  161. annamaria says:

    Wonder that you like the Unz forum where readers discuss papers written by informed professionals.
    Colonel Lang had more than enough confrontations with the snooty profiteers of zionist variety as well as the ‘healthy’ (non-patriotic, in your terminology) profiteers like Biden, Cheney, Clintons et al.
    Perhaps, you have missed the readers’ concern about the fate of European civilization in the context of uncontrolled immigration from Africa and the Middle East; the uncontrolled immigration has been allowed (and supported) by the zionized European governments groomed for globalization.
    Whatever your upbringing, it sounds rather sad that you do not recognize the cultural legacy of your ancestors.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  162. Alden says:

    I agree with everything you wrote, nothing to add. French Revolution was similar. 20 years of Masonic and Orleans infiltration of the civil service, army but not the navy, the clergy and attorneys and judiciary made the state just crumble like a dry rotted floor when the time came.

    American civil service at all levels education from elementary to university the media clergy military media entertainment, professional associations, all ready for revolution and genocide of their enemy, normal White people.

  163. @annamaria

    Many informed professionals, aren’t; they are posers, BS artists, frauds. The bulk of the population hasn’t the education to see through all the malarkey. When people have degrees in nonsense, they’ll believe almost anything relying on submission to authority to suspend what little critical thinking skills they may possess.

    The military in particular is crawling with the absolute worst the society has produced. Murderers that kill on command for the political class of sociopaths. They were made for each other.

    I’ve heard of military types that retire and then discover that their entire careers were in error. These are the absolute worst. Trying to cash in on both sides of the equation. I wouldn’t trust them if they told me the sun was up at noon.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  164. Alden says:

    The conservative counter revolutionaries aren’t even carrying their firearms, just occasionally cleaning them and dreaming about the counterrevolution.

    The American revolutionaries began planning in 1760 and didn’t declare independence and start fighting till our French allies were in the ships and on the way.

    That’s how every successful and unsuccessful revolution begins. Money, at least one sector of elite involvement, careful recruitment propaganda , logistics food, housing all important transportation medical care rooting out of government agents and most of all, knowing what buildings and agencies to take over ; where they are, how to get there, who to send and most important what to do when you’ve occupied the building. And often foreign involvement.

    American Revolution is familiar to all of us and an excellent example of how to carry out a revolution.

    Here’s how Bonaparte went from army General to First consul or premier president.

    Brother Joseph was president speaker of the assembly General Murat was husband of sister Caroline. Brother Joseph persuaded the assembly to meet not in the usual building in Paris but in a Chateau in the suburbs. They’d live in the chateau during the session.

    Meanwhile, Bonaparte operatives in the assembly began talking about a new form of government, based on the old Roman Triumvirate. 3 Consuls, elected by the senate and assembly with separate but equal powers. Bonaparte newspapers printed editorials endorsing the idea.

    After a couple days the assembly critters woke up to find the building surrounded by Murat and Napoleon’s army. Brother Joseph began the voting for the consulship Assembly voted against. This went on for a few days. Then Murat just went in with his soldiers who waved their bayonets around and shit up the ceiling The assembly voted in the consulship. Napoleon was first consul and most of the 3 separate powers went to the first consul.

    That’s how it’s done. Organization planning and the right people in place.

    We’ll see what happens. The democrats have everything in place to do whatever they want if Biden loses.

  165. Alden says:
    @Ralph Cramden

    Do President Trump, VP Pence and whatever truly loyal aides they have know about the insurrection act, and other laws and protocols you write about? Will anyone tell them?

    All these left wing anti White Obama’s generals and colonels remind me of the revolutionary masons and Orleansists in the French army and national guard in the 1780s before their revolution.

    Washington and other generals and officers had all been in the British army in America before the revolution. They turned traitor years before the war began.

  166. Alden says:
    @Alden Has the press conference by the FBI about foreign interference in the election. Lots of bubble babble about the FBI defending election integrity Just one actual fact in the whole babble fest. And it might be a lie. Allegedly the government is sending emails to registered voters. Didn’t say what was written in those emails.
    If I were organizing a revolution or coup d’ etat from within it’s exactly what I would have my troops do.
    They’re setting the stage for the FBI to interfere if it looks as if Trump will win.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  167. annamaria says:

    Was your native country ever attacked by a bully-state? Do you have soldiers (including non-professional military) in your family, who gave their lives to protect the motherland?
    I am not asking about your professional training and such trifles as a professional degree. And I stand by my point that many authors presented by the Unz Review are highly informed individuals.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
    , @anonymous
  168. @annamaria

    Several countries could count me as one of ‘them’. Countries are geopolitical entities I don’t care about due to my anarchist world view. The very idea of a ‘motherland’ in today’s meaning is state worship and I detest that. If some of my relatives died or not, fighting for this or that piece of geography has no influence on me or my thinking processes. People have been murdered or committing murder fighting for some stupid flag for as long as there have been warlords and priests.

    Why fight for a flag when you can buy one for a nickel. – Ezra Pound

    All murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets. – Voltaire

    I see you’ve move the goal posts, changing professionals to individuals.

    Now I might agree that there are people here who seem informed. What I won’t agree with is that there are professionals in fields that are pure opinion.

    This is not a small matter. It is the mind numbing respect for faux professional that has people in a trance. They suspend their limited thinking faculties because they are supposedly listening to an expert, a professional. When one realizes that in many / most cases, there are no professionals, just bullshit artists with an agenda, that changes the environment completely surrounding the discussion.

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @Alden
  169. RobinG says:

    Correct. But aren’t they already interfering…. for 4 years, actually?

    Darren Beattie & Tucker Carlson Discuss Color Revolutions & The Plot To Oust President Trump

    • Agree: Alfred
    • Replies: @Rufus Clyde
  170. annamaria says:

    So as a microbiologist (?) (or geneticist, historian, an expert in advanced weaponry, mathematician, or IT expert?), you are not satisfied with the scholarship level on this site. Interesting. Generally, on this forum, most eloquent protesters do their protestings against politically-incorrect data. What’s your point? As a rule, highly educated people hold great respect for other highly educated people.
    Also, does your anarchism include rejection of all kinds of cultural traditions?

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  171. By-tor says:

    Don’t waste your time trying to get that low IQ, unemployed, immigrant welfare black to learn anything.

  172. @annamaria

    I’m an engineer / professional software developer. I trust engineers because they can demonstrate their expertise by building the world we all live in. I trust software developers to produce the control systems that keep us all alive and make the current world possible.

    I have no respect for historians, economists, English literature ‘experts’, art historians, Egyptology, paleontology, psychologists, psychiatrists, sociologists, gender studies PhD’s, and all the other forms of basket weaving degrees conferred by the university system. Those are examples of fraudulent professions that are primarily opinion based or use their interpretation of things to arrive at a consensus among their priests and then call that fact.

    What you consider highly educated probably isn’t what I would consider highly educated. If someone has a PE license, I’m impressed. If someone has a doctorate in law or economics, for example, I’m completely unimpressed and am sorry the society can’t recognize these useless eaters.

    In general, if a discipline can produce empirical evidence that what they say is true and lab measurements can confirm this repeatedly, then I have respect for that profession. Everything else is bullshit in the final analysis.

    • Agree: Rufus Clyde
    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @Alden
  173. @RobinG

    Good for the goose, and good for the gander.

  174. Leftists! Please, stop you’re killing me! The power behind the Democrat corruption machine stems from the accumulation of economic control by a tiny elite, just like the Republicans. It’s just a different elite. Sometimes. Oh man, can’t wait to see the workers take control of Amazon and turn it into a series of autonomous collectives! Hilarious!

  175. annamaria says:

    Let’s recapitulate.
    You are an anarchist with a professional degree in engineering and software development, which means that you have been studying very traditional disciplines within the hierarchy of the academic world.
    You respect numbers but not when they are coming from medical/biological studies and, in particular, from the field of biological psychology since there is something about biological psychology, which you abhor.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  176. @annamaria


    Just because someone uses numbers doesn’t make it scientific and doesn’t mean that the numbers directly lead to the conclusion. Too many fields interpret their results to align with a predetermined world view that the priests in the discipline have determined are the proper frame of reference.

    Look at economics, THE premier fraudulent profession. Economists and their banker buddies invented fiat currency and have written untold numbers of papers on how to manage that system and why it’s needed. Since no fiat currency has lasted longer than the gov’t system that created it, that must mean that the currency was worthless from the get go relying on coercion to get acceptance and outlawing sound money. Gold and silver have outlived all fiat currencies for thousands of years because the metal itself IS the money, not the gov’t or other imprint on its face. A Roman gold or silver coin is still worth something today strictly due to the intrinsic metal content.

    Look at the climate science frauds. They cheated and got caught but TPTsB keep pushing the ludicrous notion that a gas concentration of CO2 at 1 part in 2500 is going to heat up the planet. Records from ice cores show CO2 concentration many times what we have today and the planet didn’t turn into Venus. Records also show that the rise in temperature precedes the rise in CO2 by about 800 years. Further records show that we are entering a cyclical period that usually precedes a grand solar minimum where temperatures drop and growing regions shift towards the equator.

    Look at psychiatry. It was going the way of phrenology when Rockefeller discovered that petroleum could be used to make drugs and needed the shrinks to prescribe them. Not a single mental condition in the DSM has an empirically verifiable test that can diagnose a condition. The entire field is nothing but the opinions of the priests and look at the harm they’ve done with all the mass shooting with the killers on some form of mind altering meds.

    Now I want to know of your background. What education credentials do you hold?

    • Replies: @Miro23
    , @annamaria
  177. BB753 says:

    A Trump win will:
    a) intensify the actions of antifas and blm thugs on the steet on one hand and on the other judiciary and Deep State machinations against his administration.
    b) Even if Trump resists a full term, the Color Revolution will ultimately take over power in 2024.

    I can see no way out of this situation unless a foreign power intervenes, which is highly unlikely, either China or Russia. Finally, don’t count on the military or Law Enforcement Agencies. All bought and sold. Which is why the Soviet coup failed, by the way.

    • Agree: Alden
  178. Miro23 says:

    Just because someone uses numbers doesn’t make it scientific and doesn’t mean that the numbers directly lead to the conclusion. Too many fields interpret their results to align with a predetermined world view that the priests in the discipline have determined are the proper frame of reference.

    That’s my experience with an economics degree. 100% designed to bolster a predetermined world view with the “econometrics” and calculations being based on suitably selected false assumptions. However, you’re wrong about history:

    I trust software developers to produce the control systems that keep us all alive and make the current world possible.

    I have no respect for historians…

    In general, if a discipline can produce empirical evidence that what they say is true and lab measurements can confirm this repeatedly, then I have respect for that profession.

    Historical research is never going to work like hard science – but that’s hardly a reason to reject it. Well researched history using primary sources in an open minded way can be very instructive about the present world. The human world didn’t arrive fully formed – it grew with many twists and turns (including scientific discovery and technology) to its present state. Science and technology also has its own history – for example Vaclav Smil’s excellent “Creating the Twentieth Century: Technical innovations of 1867-1914 and their lasting impact” OUP 2005.

    Also there are some empirically testable results, even in the woolliest of disciplines like psychology – for example “Past behavior is the best guide to future behavior”.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  179. @Miro23

    History is written by the victor. The defeated entity may try to write their history books in such a way as to limit their embarrassment for their own people inside their own country. The rest of the world generally takes the victor’s description as gospel.

    History is just a story with varying degrees of accuracy, even from primary sources. Current events, the history of the current time, has the Russians helping elect Trump in 2016 and those dastardly Ruskies are at it again in 2020. Am I supposed to believe that history?

    Sorry, but if you can’t PROVE it, it’s just a story. The world is full of story tellers with PhD’s.

    An Anthropologist can find what he declares is a finger bone of some extinct humanoid and from that determine the average height, weight, eating habits and even if they generally preferred Coke over Pepsi.

    Astronomers wound the universe’s creation back in time to define the Big Bang by using redshift pioneered by Edwin Hubble. Hubble’s protege, Halton Arp cataloged numerous galaxies that clearly show redshift as a measure of distance is wrong and concluded from measurements that redshift is quantized and probably an intrinsic property of matter at some level. For his heresy, Arp was denied telescope time and hounded out of the US. Am I supposed to ignore Arp and blindly follow the consensus view when plasma physics adds tremendous weight to Arp’s observations?

    History is aged propaganda.

    • Replies: @Alden
  180. annamaria says:

    Just one more question. You are a committed anarchist (by your own declaration). Do you use such civilizational toys as running water, electricity, and the accouterments of dental offices, or you, as a true anarchist, live in a cabin with an outhouse, away from any government and governmental structures?

    Re your question: Whatever my background, I have high respect for people of knowledge, whether it is microbiology, genetics, biological psychology, mathematics, history, or advanced weaponry. And I do stand my ground — the Unz Review is a spring of information presented by professionals.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
    , @Alden
  181. @annamaria

    I see now that besides putting words into my mouth several times, you’ve decided to ask stupid questions you already know the answers to, building a rickety straw man in the process. Remember, I help build the world you inhabit so I have a right to partake of its benefits, and do so.

    I still don’t know of your background, even though I asked politely. I can only conclude you’re a dishonest person that won’t honestly continue a conversation but deflects when you have no logical rational reply.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  182. anonymous[102] • Disclaimer says:

    Informed perhaps, but misguided nonetheless.

  183. Alden says:

    Victors write their version of history. The losers write their version of history. Observers with no stake in the game who live hundreds or thousands of miles away and write what the observers consider to be unbiased versions.

    Just read about American communists and those who fought them 1930-1956 when the communists triumphed in public opinion

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  184. Alden says:
    @Ralph Cramden

    Vindemann listened in on Flynn’s phone calls to the Russian ambassador to the US and to the Russian foreign affairs department November December 2016 as an Obama operative. His lies about the call was what Comey charged Flynn.

    Comey was the prosecutor Flynn was the false witness. . As you would know if you had any knowledge of what really happened and the difference between a prosecutor and a witness.

    As far as your loyal veterans ready and willing to fight the liberals ; they don’t exist except in your imagination. If they did exist , they would have resisted years ago.

    Castro had 80 men in the mountains. His revolution was nothing till they came down from the mountains and conquered the biggest cities and the capital. With massive help from the Soviet Union that recruited him in college and the complete backing of the Jewish NYTimes and Washington Post.

    You and your imaginary loyal veterans got nothing. I doubt you could come up with a van and 5 other loyal veterans for your revolution Clean and polish aka play with your hunting rifles.

    They don’t teach military strategy tactics and geo political warfare to the enlisted men which you were. Had you been in the officers training class you’d know how unrealistic your dream is

  185. Alden says:

    Annemarie. Because of my background in law enforcement and real estate; fending off bogus investment opportunities , my BS detector is excellent. Reading Rotan Bill’s posts, I doubt he’s an engineer. He’s here just to preach his supposed anarchy and start fights. And accuse us other commenters of being dumb ignorant believers in CNN MNSNBC My opinion he doesn’t know anything about anarchy at all, just the word

    Were he knowledgeable about the anarchist writers he’d write about them He doesn’t. Rotan Bill just brags about his foreign residency, his occupation and his superior knowledge that America is a mess. As though we all don’t know that

    He brags that engineers are superior to lawyers. Hah Lawyers become the judges and legislatures who make the laws that govern rule us all. Engineers are just workers who make and maintain, Elected and appointed lawyers rule engineers and the rest of us on behalf of the elites who rule the lawyers, judges and other government officials.

    Software developer is an old fashioned term. They now call themselves systems architects.

    It’s very possible to have an engineering degree and go into software development. It happens. But to work both as an engineer and a software developer????

    Possible but not probable.

    He’s just another liberal given the name of this conservative racist anti Semitic site to jump into threads and tell us we’re just another lot of TV watching ignorant low IQ Trump voters.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
    , @Robjil
  186. @Alden

    So, you admit to at least three versions of history. I assume I’m supposed to believe the one cobbled together by the unbiased observer.

    What rot.

    There’s no such thing as an unbiased observer when relating a story.

    History is a story. The author of the historical record for your 3 cases each put their spin on the tale. If you want to believe some story, that’s up to you. I choose to regard all stories from historians and anthropologists to astronomers and paleontologists as their court jesters tale to provide some entertainment, not factual knowledge.

    • Replies: @Alden
  187. Alden says:

    Did you flunk out of community college?

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  188. annamaria says:

    Do you live in Israel? Poor manners betray you.
    Please reread your own verbose posts to find out that nothing was invented in my questioning posts for you.
    This world of ours has been built by great people who did not need to boast about their special role in building it. You are neither Pythagoras nor Phidias, Al Hazen, Leonardo, Bach, Ramanujan, Boltzmann, Tesla, and other geniuses to whom we all owe so much. You are ‘RoatanBill’ who was dressed up for slandering the Unz Review’s contributors.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  189. @Alden

    Never went to a community college. I got engineering degrees.

    You strike me as an artsy type. How someone can defend any of the basket weaving disciplines is beyond me.

    • Replies: @Alden
  190. Alden says:

    Reading your comments on various threads I doubt very much you have an engineering degree or live in a foreign country to which you fled 30 years ago because you thought America is finished. In this thread you claim to be an engineer and software developer. In another thread you claim to own a food company that vacuum packs food.

    You’re a silly old man who believes all the prepper gun collector Rambo dreams that stalwart frontiers men will come down out of the hills and conquer DC.

    Never happened and never will.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  191. Alden says:

    Whatever countries you live in, some government officials gave you your residency permit IF you actually live somewhere than America which I doubt. Your comments scream small town provincial prole who’s never traveled more than 500 miles from home.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  192. Floda says:

    Sorry but here’s one HUGE difference between Yeltsin and Trump: Yeltsin was a drunk, in fact he was a hopeless drunk, on one occasion during a visit to Ireland he was so full his handlers couldn’t wake him up, so he remained in the Aircraft until sober enough to put in an appearance. Not our Donald, who is teetotal and gets up early in the morning. And you don’t think he and his inner sanctum haven’t already made up plans and NAMES on lists to um….er, de-activate, on the morning of November 4? I predict their feet don’t touch the ground.

  193. @Alden

    I don’t much care what you believe. I do know you have reading comprehension issues. I’ve corrected your 30 year impression and you persist in using it. I’m against any attempt to take over DC or any other gov’t by force and gave my reasons why. I suspect you don’t want to believe me because I’ve done what you’ve only thought about or in the opposite sense, I represent the free man you’ve spent your life trying to repress under the color of law.

    You’ve descended to using an ad hominem towards me and that shows your frustration in not having a cogent argument against my stated positions on topics. Neither you or I should be the topic of conversation. We should be discussing issues relevant to what’s wrong with the US gov’t and where it’s likely to go given its current trajectory.

    I decided to leave the US when 911 happened and what the Fed Gov did to a friend of mine, Richard (Dick) Simkanin. InfoWars has the best description of what the Feds did to him, but even their account is badly flawed. It took me a few years to arrange my affairs but I left.

    I knew the US was going to turn into a police state and it certainly has. Those in ‘law enforcement’ are responsible for the slide into totalitarianism currently underway. I therefore see you as part of the problem and not the solution.

    I saw early on that there was a train heading for me and I got off the tracks, it’s as simple as that. I can’t stop the train. There are too many people like you pushing it forward. All I’m trying to do is get people with a receptive mind to wake up to their real situation by having the bad manners to speak plainly skewering topics like respect for authority, law and most of all, the cretins that carry a weapon anywhere in the US in gov’t employ.

    • Replies: @Alden
  194. @Alden

    Your problem is referred to as projection.

    You’re projecting your inadequacies on to me.

  195. @Alden

    I see you’re into unsubstantiated gossip too.


  196. Robjil says:

    He’s just another liberal given the name of this conservative racist anti Semitic site to jump into threads and tell us we’re just another lot of TV watching ignorant low IQ Trump voters.

    Alden, your posts are quite good.

    This slur about this site was strange.

    UNZ is a realism site. Not a RAS site. RAS is the initials for what you wrote.

    Realism allows humans to freely speak. “I can’t speak freely” is the motto for all Zion MSM.

    Realism is such a rare thing in the world since 12.23.1913, it is a great pleasure for the human mind.

    Humans yearn for freedom of the intellectual. Freedom of the intellectual is how humans advanced. The denial of it will bring the downfall of humanity.

    • Thanks: annamaria
    • Replies: @Alden
  197. Neoconned says:

    I was backing Obama im 2009 when we were going to stick it to Wall Street etc.

    He had a voter mandate. Heads were going to roll, Wall Street criminals were actually going to federal prison “with hard labor”…..

    Then Obama claimed we’d be out of voth Iraq AND Afghanistan unilaterally by 2010. He kinda kept that promise with Iraq but then he either started or expanded wars in Libya, Syria, Somalia etc.

    Then he let Victoria Nuland f up the situation in Ukraine….

    We were going to get Canada style health care & actually make college free…..


    Then Obama went full identity politics and Bill Clinton neolib and it was all stalemate from there and i gave up on politics.

    • Agree: Robjil
    • Replies: @travel lyte
  198. Alden says:

    9/11 happened 11 years ago, not 30 years ago. Every post you make contradicts other posts. So, did you decide to leave America 11 or 30 years ago????

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  199. @Alden

    You can’t even do simple arithmetic.

    911 happened in 2001. That’s 19 years ago. I left 16 years ago.

    Go away. You’re too ignorant and obnoxious to bother with.

    • Replies: @Alden
  200. @Neoconned

    “Then Obama went full identity politics and Bill Clinton neolib and it was all stalemate from there and i gave up on politics.”

    Because he was that all along. Mixed race resentment and being told he was ‘special’ his whole life.

    Future President Harris is worse, having been vetted and guarunteed (my suspicion) a place on the ticket in 2019. Tulsi’s takedown of this incorrigible and ruthless bdch wasn’t so devastating that a total dropout was necessary, methinks she knew something.

    Think Hillary on steroids. And President.

  201. Alden says:

    16 years ago, 30 years ago decide when you left the US.

  202. Alden says:

    Umm I don’t consider anti Semitism to be a slur. I call it realistic opinion about Jews. Especially their role in the lawfare against Whites since Brown 1953; and their takeover of the federal civil service from 1933 to the present.

    If RAS means realistic anti Semitism then I’m RAS.

    This is the racial ethnic conflict in America

    Jews blacks Hispanics Asians dot Indians MENAs vs White Americans. I’m on the side of White Americans.

  203. Alden says:

    So you have no respect for Art Historians. I assume you’ve never been to Italy Greece or Egypt.

  204. @OVER it

    Of all the communist revolutions, and that is exactly what we are witnessing, NONE of them have ever been attempted against a nation of freedom loving people who are heavily armed, with numbers that rival the entire worlds military forces. Should this ongoing coup be completed this fall, it will be short lived, because with all the fraud in this election already, we will never accept a communist leftists “victory”, as it will not be legitimate.

    Oh Boy! This must be the first “Communist Revolution”, ever, led by non-communists! Or have you got some Communists hiding out somewhere? Or are you perhaps going to import some from somewhere? You have communism for the 0.01% already, are the leaders of the Communist Revolutionaries planning to extend it to the deplorables?

    I wonder too, (and I am surprised that the subject has not been broached in the discussion so far) about the reaction of the 800 or so bases all around the world, in the event of a civil war in the states. Has anyone any thoughts about that?

  205. @Liza

    The media are good at ignoring individual murders here and there (Christian & Newsome/Chase Meola for only two examples) but how are they going to ignore mass slaughter, I wonder.

    Since the media are quite capable of trying (usually more or less successfully) to suppress any news they don’t want the hoi polloi to receive, mass slaughter could happen and very few would know about it. Those that did learn/tell about it would be denounced (locked up?) as conspiracy theorists and purveyors of Fake News.


    Opinions vary. I hope the loyal veterans know where to go, how to get there, and what to do the first week of November.

    If any mass of Good ole Boys were to assemble to storm anything the airforce (or whoever was tasked to deal with them) would probably be told that they were North Koreans.

  206. Neoconned says:

    All these replies assumes the USA remains with its borders intact….there are large parts of our country that would happily sever off to join with other nations….

    The SW to Mexico. The West Coast and perhaps vassals to say China. The northeast with Canada or some EuroAmerican alliance…..the Deep South as an independent entity etc….

    I don’t think our borders will remain intact if the shtf.

    Maybe we should bring tje Soviets back… least the autocrats give you cruddy but free health care and defend their borders.

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