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“Your good, careful people of the villages are the thieves of virtue.
Confucius, The Analects, 17.

“They agree with the current customs. They consent with an impure age. Their principles only appear to be right-heartedness and truth. Their conduct only appears to be disinterestedness and purity. All men are pleased with them, and they deem themselves to be right. But one cannot proceed with them to the principles of [the moral exemplars]. For this reason they are called “The thieves of virtue.”
D.C. Lau, Mencius (1970)[1]Lau, D.C. trans. 2003 [1970]. Mencius. London: Penguin Books.

One of the surest hallmarks of a cultural death spiral is omnipresent anomie and the universal deadening of the capacity to experience shock. Everything in culture becomes repetitive and suffocatingly numb. I was reminded of this back in June when a friend sent me a video from Wi Spa, a Korean spa in Los Angeles that played host to a controversy when a Black female customer complained without success that customers, including children, were being exposed to the penis of a naked transsexual in a female changing area. While some left-wing sources are now claiming that the Black woman was a Christian conservative who fabricated the complaint, the truth of the matter remains unclear. In any case, the footage was, to me, not remarkable for the allegations (now becoming all too real and predictable regardless of what really happened at Wi Spa), nor the attitude of the Black woman, or even the robotic and dismissive attitude of the staff, but rather for the intervention of a White Beta male who played the role of the quintessential Social Justice Warrior. This man insisted to the Black complainant that females could have a penis, showed total disregard for the children involved in the complaint, and did his utmost to rhetorically strut and preen in the manner of some kind of moralistic human peacock; maintaining one eye on the Black female while employing the other to scan the watching crowd for admiring gazes. The spectacle, sickening for so very many reasons, was all the more perverse for this sideshow.

The Woke ‘Hero’ of Wi Spa
The Woke ‘Hero’ of Wi Spa

The reasons behind behavior like this are not mysterious. There is a strong element of self-interest and a flow of social incentives for ‘woke’ behavior. A lot of people engage in ‘social justice’ interventions, both online and “in the real world,” because they hope for social, financial, and professional rewards. In the same way that very many people in the age of the smartphone now fear being recorded and made viral as a new racist “Karen,” there are a great many people who want to go viral as an anti-racist social hero.

While punishment for racism is permanent and perpetual, however, the rewards of anti-racism are merely fleeting and superfluous. The System expects everyone to be anti-racist and open to sexual deviance, and so the greatest reward it bestows is not to share its riches or status, reserved only for the elites and a handful of celebrity anti-racists, but instead to offer the common compliant man only the quiet relief of not being seen as antithetical to the hegemonic values of multiculturalism. In this sense, we deal not so much with the carrot and the stick, as the idea that the “carrot” is nothing more than a temporary and conditional avoidance of the stick.

To put it another way, one is anti-racist and woke purely and simply in order to avoid being categorized by the System as racist and bigoted. Among yet others (the “vicar’s daughters-types” once described so vividly by Jonathan Bowden), there is an element of pathological altruism. In these cases, we confront the dim-witted and naive, the prototypes of Dostoevsky’s The Idiot, but without that novel’s protagonist’s charm and redeeming qualities. Combined, these various types of White social justice moralist (the career climber, the fashion follower, the socially anxious, and the painfully naive) are fatal to all right-thinking, and are a major accelerator of decline.

So much, then, for explaining why people behave this way. But what are the moral mechanics at work, and how does this behavior impact matters on a wider social level? During some recent reading of Eastern philosophy, I encountered an interesting concept that might deserve at least some attention — the Confucian idea of the “thieves of virtue” or fake moralists. Confucius (551–479 BC) is an interesting figure for the consideration of White moral social justice trends because he was a traditionalist of his era and because he had a particular interest in the search for moral values in a rapidly changing social context. As such, he made a valuable contribution to developing a distinction between what could be seen as merely popularly moral and what was genuinely moral and sincere.

Confucius and Social Virtue

It’s worth briefly explaining who this ancient Chinese philosopher was, before suggesting why he might have some ideas even remotely applicable to contemporary Whites. Confucius was known in his lifetime as Kong Fuzi, or Master Kong. He was a court scholar who occupied, through a relatively novel meritocratic process, a position not unlike modern civil servants. Confucius sought to integrate the new meritocratic developments of ancient China into old ideals and traditions, and this effort to synthesize the old and the new led to his quest to develop a new moral philosophy with direct social implications. Despite the introduction of meritocracy and the partial replacement of aristocracy, Confucius was opposed to egalitarianism and upheld a strong belief in hierarchy and an innate inequality between men. Deep nobility (junzi) and virtue (de) could, however, be found throughout the hierarchy. If a lowly peasant understood and fully embraced his role within it, for example, he was no less virtuous and valuable than the man at top of the social pyramid. Everyone in the folk community had an important role to play. In this sense, his philosophy is a kind of national socialism, which stressed the ultimate importance of the community over social class. The social pyramid itself was made cohesive and coherent through the Five Constant Relationships: Sovereign-Subject; Parent-Child; Husband-Wife; Elder Sibling-Younger Sibling; and Friend-Friend. It should be pointed out, if it isn’t already obvious, that there is no room for the stranger or the foreigner in this scheme of social obligation and ritual.

Social obligation was itself made manifest through demonstrations of Li, which could be roughly translated as ‘justice,’ but could be more accurately described as ritual propriety. One encountered Li in ancestor worship, at weddings, at funerals, when giving or receiving gifts, and in everyday gestures of politeness such as bowing and using the correct mode of dress. These outwards signs were intended to reflected inner virtue, but only truly did so when performed with sincerity. It was sincerity, along with faithfulness and self-reflection, that really pointed to the genuinely moral and virtuous man.

Thieves of Virtue

The opinions of Confucius on those who merely perform Li without possessing inner virtue are found in the Analects, a collection of fragments of his writings and sayings compiled by his disciples. The Analects together comprise a predominantly political treatise, but the collection is also made up of aphorisms and anecdotes. In section 17 of the Analects, Confucius refers to “village worthies (xiang yuan 鄉愿)” and compares their empty moralism to “assuming a severe expression while being weak inside” and breaking into a home and committing burglary. The “worthy” exterior of the village moralists is thus stolen or unmerited. They are in fact hypocrites who, while critiquing all that is “bad,” are themselves utterly devoid of virtue.

If Confucius’s critique of these “village worthies” was solely limited to their hypocrisy then there would be limited value in applying his critique to contemporary White social justice moralists. We know full well that the majority of White self-styled anti-racists and woke activists are hypocrites. We know that most wealthy White multiculturalists do their very best to have their children educated in predominantly White schools, and to raise their families in predominantly White neighborhoods. The vast majority of people outwardly saying they’re fine with gay marriage and the widespread acceptance of transsexualism secretly hope their children don’t turn out that way. In an era in which pro-diversity propaganda is peaking—with no mainstream dissent, the fact remains that Whites are continuing to quietly self-segregate as much as their resources will allow. We live in an age where everyone proclaims the benefits of diversity while doing their very best to avoid it. Hypocrisy is endemic, and it is obvious.

But Confucius goes deeper than hypocrisy in his criticism of the village worthies, the ‘woke’ types of his era, stressing their role in the development of a kind of moral-social cancer that is catastrophic to national culture. In fact, Confucius’s most pointed critique isn’t that the village worthies wear masks, but that there is nothing to mask. They lack all sense of identity, possess no ideology, and are nothing more than chameleons who take on whatever face is considered attractive or laudable by the elites they want to appeal to.[2]Sung, W. (2020). Confucius’s village worthies : hypocrites as thieves of virtue. Alston, C., Carpenter, A. & Wiseman. Rachael (Eds.), Portraits of Integrity: 26 Case Studies from History, Literature and Philosophy Bloomsbury Academic. In this sense, when considering our contemporary White social justice moralists (the career climber, the fashion follower, the socially anxious, and the painfully naive), all can be subsumed under the title of “village worthies” who are “thieves of virtue.” All of them are fundamentally empty persons without authentic identity. A similar contemporary pop culture reference point would be the NPC (Non-Playable Character) meme developed by gamers to describe those who, like the background figures in video games, possess no agency or capacity for independent thought. Winnie Sung, commenting on this element of the Analects, writes:

The appearance-only hypocrite, such as Confucius’ village worthies, puts us in a special predicament. For someone who does not wear a mask cannot be unmasked. … There is nothing that we can expose when it comes to the village worthies because there is nothing underneath.[3]Ibid.
(Sung, W. (2020). Confucius’s village worthies : hypocrites as thieves of virtue. Alston, C., Carpenter, A. & Wiseman. Rachael (Eds.), Portraits of Integrity: 26 Case Studies from History, Literature and Philosophy Bloomsbury Academic.)

This is particularity egregious for Confucius because identity is a foundation of integrity. The person of integrity is someone who preserves a sense of what identifies the person as essentially the person they are. Or, to put it another way, you need to understand yourself and who you are before you can claim that “you” stand for anything, let alone something as lofty as moral values. Someone who denies their own heritage, ethnic origins, and identity cannot sincerely proclaim any moral values because these values are not rooted in their own identity and are therefore both artificial and adopted. Sung writes:

Assuming that having identifications is necessary for having an identity, since the village worthies do not have their own identifications, we cannot say what kind of person they really are. They do not have anything that they actually identify with, and hence do not have what is truly theirs. We cannot in their case say that there is any break between their practices and their true identity. The village worthies lack integrity not in the sense where one’s identity is corrupted or concealed but because they do not even have their own identifications.[4]Ibid.
(Sung, W. (2020). Confucius’s village worthies : hypocrites as thieves of virtue. Alston, C., Carpenter, A. & Wiseman. Rachael (Eds.), Portraits of Integrity: 26 Case Studies from History, Literature and Philosophy Bloomsbury Academic.)

Popular Moralism as Social Cancer

Accompanying instinctive self-segregation, there is an almost contradictory rise in culturally deracinated Whites keen to outwardly disavow the White past and condemn the White present. While the animosities of non-White ethnic groups can be easily understood in the context of inter-ethnic competition and their construction of past suffering at the hands of Whites (e.g., the lachrymose view of Jewish history common among Jews), White complicity in this process remains one of the strongest barriers to mounting a successful challenge against multiculturalism and multiracialism in the West. For Confucius, one of the most galling aspects of this behavior would be the tendency among some Whites to proclaim their status as a “White anti-racist” dedicated to spreading their ideology among other Whites. Confucius would object to such a self-designation, pointing out that such people are already devoid of any sense of White identity or what it means to be White, and that their interventions are thus inherently lacking in integrity and are essentially meaningless. There is thus no real “White anti-racism” but instead a phenomenon wherein empty persons mimic foreign ideas.

Because it is unnatural to loathe one’s own group and identity, when Whites adopt anti-White or anti-racist positions, they are simply reflecting the values of others, particularly oppositional elites. Unfortunately, such behavior can become endemic because “village worthies,” “thieves of virtue,” or NPCs have an endless capacity to mimic fashion. Sung comments:

At a larger scale, Confucius thinks that the presence of people who have no identity of their own, and merely reflect others’ values, is a threat to the moral system. Mencius quotes Confucius as saying: ‘Confucius said, “I detest what is specious. I detest the foxtail for fear it should pass for seedlings. I detest flattery for fear it should pass for what is right. I detest glibness for fear it should pass for the truthful. … I detest purple for fear it should pass for vermilion. I detest the village worthy for fear he should pass for the virtuous.” Just like the color purple (which closely resembles vermillion) easily confuses people and misleads people in their choice, the village worthies, who look just like the virtuous people according to our current conceptions and appear attractive to the audience, easily confuse their audience and mislead the audience to think that they have the more attractive character than the genuinely virtuous people. The village worthies will pretend to have moral qualities that appeal to their audience, and will not pretend to have moral qualities that do not appeal to their audience. Hence, the village worthies will never fail a moral test from the perspective of their audience. Although a small group of genuinely virtuous people might be able to detect the village worthies’ hypocrisy, they will not be able to convince the village worthies’ audience that these seemingly gracious and attractive people are not what they appear.

Social Justice versus Authentic Justice

A formidable obstacle to forming a challenge to the multicultural status quo is the idea that such a challenge is inherently immoral. This is an idea that began with ethnically alien intellectuals and activists who have an obvious self-interest in promoting it. Then, gradually, and with increasing frequency following World War II, the idea was seeded among leading White “village worthies” (politicians, academics, cultural figures) until it reached critical cultural saturation. Accompanying ideas were then also inserted into social fashion, including the notion that any defense of White ethnic interests is immoral. The result has been exactly as Confucius predicted — a wholesale threat to the true moral order. Today, only a dwindling number of representatives of junzi remain in the West, the “small group of genuinely virtuous people” capable of detecting the hypocrisy and false moralism of the age. This is the group which roots its integrity in its identity, and doesn’t feel the need to conceal the fact that its values are based in ethnic self-interest. Like the junzi of Confucius’s time, this small core of authentically moral people are unable to convince the masses that the village worthies—these “seemingly gracious and attractive people” with their allegedly impeccable morals—are not what they appear.

And yet our morality is evidently both genuine and of an especially high type. One of the most important aspects of Li is a sense of what we in the West call “equity.” This is the idea that we should not necessarily follow the letter of the law, but the spirit of it. We don’t automatically reach for the punishment for theft, but try at least to take into consideration why the theft took place when considering the sentence. Inherent in equity is a sense of the dualism of man — the idea the Man is never entirely good, nor entirely bad. A good judge, aware of his own failings as a human, will seek the most humane punishment or resolution to a legal case. In the Western tradition, equity begins in antiquity with the writings of Aristotle (epieikeia) and with Roman law (aequitas), and it is also a strong element (if not the strongest) in Christianity, which critiques Man as a sinner but rejects the rule of Mosaic law (despite the baffling claim of Matthew 5:17) and proclaims the possibility of Man’s capacity for Good and his ultimate redemption. Equity is also strongly evident in the ancient writings of the Chinese, and in the dualist religions of the Indian sub-Continent and the Far East, especially Buddhism. All such instances contrast with the Judaic/Islamic worldview, which lacks equity and sees law (Torah-Shariah) as an end in itself. It should be noted that the Judaic worldview, which makes categorical moral demands, is especially conducive to the development of “village worthies” and “thieves of virtue.”

White social justice moralists lack equity and deny their own dual natures. One would think, given their many lofty proclamations, that one is dealing with saints. And yet it is commonplace to discover that this or that anti-racist politician or activist is corrupt, a pervert, a child abuser, a slanderer, or some other form of human pond scum. These people, riddled with all kinds of neuroses and obsessions, cling to anti-racism like a life raft, finding in it at least one meagre chance of passing themselves off as “good people.”

Anti-racism, it might be said, is the moral band-aid of our age, covering a multitude of sins. Confucius, on the other hand, would see “racism,” or the seeking of one’s own ethnic interests, as moral to the extent that it proceeds from tradition, from identity, and from the integrity bestowed by both. For Confucius, a war of conquest contains an honesty that a professed moral crusade does not. He would have little patience for contemporary hand-wringing about past European conquests or enslaving Africans. How can one proclaim selflessness when proclaiming selflessness brings one social rewards that benefit the self? Confucius compared this delusion of morality to banging a drum in search of a fugitive—those most loudly bleating about moral matters will always find that true morality eludes them. The man who seeks after his community’s material interests, on the other hand, will be sated by securing them and will not entertain self-delusion. His desires are universal, predicable, and capable of satisfaction. The posturing moralist, or “thief of virtue,” on the other hand, is a true annihilator, since he will not rest until his fashionable worldview, in all its banality, is universally imposed. In this view, Genghis Khan is the moral superior to Moses, and infinitely less dangerous to social order.

Conclusion

Confucius’s perspective on community morality offers a nuanced and interesting perspective on some of the troubling issues confronting Western societies today, especially the total dominance of multiculturalism and Leftism in moral discourse. One of the major problems confronting movements for the defense of White interests is the culturally ubiquitous idea that such a defense is intrinsically immoral, and this idea has advanced to such a degree that several forms of defending White interests have been criminalized. Confucius’s concept of the “thieves of virtue” undermines the claims of this mass false morality and points out that fashion and conformity can smother authentic virtue and morals. We live in an age when most Whites lack identity, and thus integrity, and we have witnessed a kind of mass chameleon effect where the goals of foreign elites are mimicked and parroted for short-term personal relief or reward. This is a threat to the authentic moral system—a system which derives its morality from tradition and identity. It is moral and a demonstration of virtue and nobility to defend and expand upon one’s ethnic interests. The man who claims instead to be a world citizen, or to love everyone, is a liar. Such a man is a thief of virtue.

Notes

[1] Lau, D.C. trans. 2003 [1970]. Mencius. London: Penguin Books.

[2] Sung, W. (2020). Confucius’s village worthies : hypocrites as thieves of virtue. Alston, C., Carpenter, A. & Wiseman. Rachael (Eds.), Portraits of Integrity: 26 Case Studies from History, Literature and Philosophy Bloomsbury Academic.

[3] Ibid.

[4] Ibid.

(Republished from The Occidental Observer by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. cortesar says:

    “Your good, politically correct people of the suburbs are the virtue signaling whores and cowards”
    Confucius, 2021

  2. There we go with that hierarchy crap again.

    Yeah, great. Let’s have more hierarchy. After all, shit floats to the top.

    • Troll: Richard B, Craig Nelsen
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    , @Richard B
  3. El Dato says:

    [email protected] Photo with an antifascist guy in a T-Shirt depicting a fantasy headhunter for the Evil Empire.

  4. Daemon says:

    Rectification of names, when?

  5. Hitmarck says:

    “the fact remains that Whites are continuing to quietly self-segregate as much as their resources will allow. We live in an age where everyone proclaims the benefits of diversity while doing their very best to avoid it. Hypocrisy is endemic, and it is obvious.”

    And those that follow them? The brown poeple?
    Is in their appreciation for being surrounded by white no hypocracy a CofusedCeUs hasn’t something to say about?

    • Thanks: Ocko
  6. @obwandiyag

    In the ocean, it tends to sink.

    That aside, this definitely is true of our era, the rot of preeners and actors. Soulless frauds and dangerous “gamers” of society.

    For me, what is most interesting though is they thought purple looked like vermillion.

    Color sensing in the past seemed a troubled, interesting thing.

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    , @El Dato
    , @JohnH
  7. Here’s the sort of dilemma that can cause a SJW’s mind to spin. They can’t burn it down. Do they dare protest it? Interestingly, the original church burned in the 1950’s, yet the stained glass survived and was again placed above the pulpit in the new sanctuary.

    http://roanokecwrt.com/Fifth%20Presbyterian.html

  8. Your exposition of the Confucian concept of “thieves of virtue” is illuminating and by far the best part of your essay. (It must be that many Chinese share your view of white social justice moralism, given that contemporary Chinese slang has a derogatory term “baizuo,” 白左, meaning a white liberal.) However, I would disagree with some of your claims.

    For instance, you describe the Confucian philosophy as a form of “national socialism.” Perhaps there is some truth to the description: for instance, the current-day Chinese state is both socialist, in an obvious sense, and national, insofar as it recognizes the Han majority as a distinct and important element of the society, even while it acknowledges the rights and contributions of other nationalities within the wider state. But “national socialism” is historically a very loaded term, and if you mean to suggest that there is an intrinsic similarity between Confucianism and Nazism, then you are suggesting something false; if anything, the militarism of the Nazis, their contempt for the human dignity of the other, is much closer to the philosophy of the Chinese Legalists than to the humanistic philosophy of the Confucians. Confucius never advocated making lampshades out of people he didn’t like.

    Secondly, your assumption of a fundamental antagonism between Jesus and the religion of Moses, which Jesus himself practiced (he was circumcised on the eighth day, taught about the essential precepts of the Law, preached in synagogues, celebrated Jewish feasts, etc.), smacks of Gnosticism. Like a lot of poorly catechized Christians, you seem to think that there is a basic opposition between the Old Testament and the New. Such an opposition was asserted by people like Marcion in the early days of the Church, and the Church Fathers, those whose views actually shaped basic Christian theology, opposed it vehemently. There is a fulfilment of the Old Testament in the New, but no opposition; it is not only Matthew 5:17 that establishes this, but the whole New Testament dispensation. No Christian who knows anything about theology would claim, as you do, that “Genghis Khan is the moral superior to Moses.” If you so misconstrue the basic character of the Christian faith, it shows that your whole conception of what is distinctive, unique, and valuable about the civilization of the West is skewed.

  9. Your exposition of the Confucian concept of “thieves of virtue” is illuminating and by far the best part of your essay. (It must be that many Chinese share your view of white social justice moralism, given that contemporary Chinese slang has a derogatory term “baizuo,” 白左, meaning a white liberal.) However, I would disagree with some of your claims.

    For instance, you describe the Confucian philosophy as a form of “national socialism.” Perhaps there is some truth to the description: for instance, the current-day Chinese state is both socialist, in an obvious sense, and national, insofar as it recognizes the Han majority as a distinct and important element of the society, even while it acknowledges the rights and contributions of other nationalities within the wider state. But “national socialism” is historically a very loaded term, and if you mean to suggest that there is an intrinsic similarity between Confucianism and Nazism, then you are suggesting something false; if anything, the militarism of the Nazis, their contempt for the human dignity of the other, is much closer to the philosophy of the Chinese Legalists than to the humanistic philosophy of the Confucians. Confucius never advocated making lampshades out of people he didn’t like.

    Secondly, your assumption of a fundamental antagonism between Jesus and the religion of Moses, which Jesus himself practiced (he was circumcised on the eighth day, taught about the essential precepts of the Law, preached in synagogues, celebrated Jewish feasts, etc.), smacks of Gnosticism. Like a lot of poorly catechized Christians, you seem to think that there is a basic opposition between the Old Testament and the New. Such an opposition was asserted by people like Marcion in the early days of the Church, and the Church Fathers, those whose views actually shaped basic Christian theology, opposed it vehemently. There is a fulfilment of the Old Testament in the New, but no opposition; it is not only Matthew 5:17 that establishes this, but the whole New Testament dispensation. No Christian who knows anything about theology would claim, as you do, that “Genghis Khan is the moral superior to Moses.” If you so misconstrue the basic character of the Christian faith, it shows that your whole conception of what is distinctive, unique, and valuable about the civilization of the West is skewed.

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  10. Excellent article !

    These are also intriguing

    The critical issue that they explain for political leadership is legitimacy.

    Huang-Lao thought, a unique and sophisticated political philosophy which combines elements of Daoism and Legalism, dominated the intellectual life of late Warring States and Early Han China, providing the ideological foundation for post-Qin reforms. In the absence of extant texts, however, scholars of classical Chinese philosophy remained in the dark about this important school for over 2000 years. Finally, in 1973, archaeologists unearthed four ancient silk scrolls: the Silk Manuscripts of Huang-Lao. This work is the first detailed, book-length treatment in English of these lost treasures.

    https://www.nspirement.com/2019/05/23/the-ancient-chinese-philosophy-of-huang-lao.html

    One of the most influential schools of thought in Chinese culture has been Huang-Lao, which literally translates as “Yellow Emperor Old Master.” The ideology was very popular during the early Han period of the 2nd century B.C.

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  11. Anon[365] • Disclaimer says:
    @kyparissiotes

    Confucius never advocated making lampshades out of people he didn’t like.

    The Nazis didn’t do that either so you have just reinforced Joyce’s point.

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  12. frankie p says:

    Lao Tze: Confucius, you talk too much about morals and morality. The result of this will be descendents and a culture of fake moralists, people who preach moral values in public and act immorally in private.

    • Agree: GomezAdddams
  13. anon[307] • Disclaimer says:

    take on whatever face is considered attractive or laudable by the elites they want to appeal to.

    this not is the reason.

    a phenomenon wherein empty persons mimic foreign ideas.

    here you’ve come closest.

    the ultimate problem is another chinese invention, The term “brainwashing” was first used in English by Edward Hunter in 1950 to describe how the Chinese government appeared to make people cooperate with them. this is also sometimes called “menticide”.

    the brainwashing is effected via mass media and education.

    the brainwashed do not know that they are brainwashed.

    non-brainwashed person says: whatever
    brainwashed person hears: the closest thing to what the non-brainwashed person said within the weltanshchauung provided him via brainwashing.

    if the intent of whatever falls outside this scope of the brainwashed, it literally cannot be understood by the brainwashed.

    having seen this once, you cannot unsee it. it’s all around you.

    • Thanks: Mike Tre
  14. @kyparissiotes

    I agree mostly with your comments. But there may be a simpler explanation for the essay writer’s distinction between Christianity and Judaism/Islam.

    I do not detect a Gnostic slant, but I would put it as the writer simply trying to rationalise his own antipathy towards Jews and Muslims. But considering the current intellectual/moral environment he is living in (I assume the USA), who can blame him?

  15. ghali says:

    Not very intelligent article and thinking behinde it. It is high school stuff.

    • Agree: Reverend Goody
    • Troll: Schuetze
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  16. Gapeseed says:

    Humans are religious creatures and Americans were typically Christian. But since God generally and Jesus specifically have been chased from the public square, these human impulses to seek divine meaning and serve divine purpose have no tried and true channel to flow, no discipline, no introspection, no struggle. A revival of a muscular Christianity would reorient and chasten these lost souls to a greater good, for themselves and others.

  17. Dumbo says:

    Is there anything that screams “rage an unhappiness” more than a white woman with ugly tattoos and a weird haircut screaming like a harpy and holding sings in the latest virtue signalling protest?

    Go home and learn to cook, find a good man and get pregnant.

  18. @Boomthorkell

    puce and mauve confuse a lot of people

  19. @kyparissiotes

    Your use of the semitist slur “Nazi” and your propagation of the semitist lampshade myth need correcting. I hope you don’t actually believe all those Jewish lies.

    • Replies: @Ocko
  20. One thing is certain. These Social Justice Warriors are scary. Besides, I doubt that anyone is really Transgender. After all, Transgender “women”, are really just men, pretending to be what they are not, so that they can gain access to women’s washrooms. In this way, they are like the Islamic “Refugees”. They only pretend to be “Refugees”. What they really want is to gain access to White women in White countries, in order to rape– and, do other horrid things to them. In principle, it is the same idea.

  21. White complicity in this process remains one of the strongest barriers to mounting a successful challenge against multiculturalism and multiracialism in the West.

    and as you point out, no amount of bleating against it is going to change their minds. There’s rather a lot of them, in positions of relative power compared to the Unwoke, and they’re convinced that they alone are on the side of History.

    Practical solutions on a postcard please.

    an idea that began with ethnically alien intellectuals and activists who have an obvious self-interest in promoting it. Then, gradually, and with increasing frequency following World War II, the idea was seeded among leading White “village worthies” (politicians, academics, cultural figures) until it reached critical cultural saturation. Accompanying ideas were then also inserted into social fashion

    “inserted” and “alien” are correct. Anyone who, no matter how insignificant, Notices this is buried under a dunghill of stentorian opprobrium and general Unpersoning.
    Access to any platform of debate, or even the basic ability to earn a living, is abrogated. Jail for proles who offend the Protected Classes with mean words on the internet, accidental or not.

    And you can’t vote it away. Unbelievers don’t make it into the running, mysteriously. Democracy has been decapitated.
    Another postcard, please.

  22. A pic of angry tatted broads. So remind me again why I can’t stand western wymyn?

    • Replies: @Reverend Goody
  23. Levtraro says:
    @kyparissiotes

    If you so misconstrue the basic character of the Christian faith, it shows that your whole conception of what is distinctive, unique, and valuable about the civilization of the West is skewed.

    Here is a fundamental error. The most distinctive and valuable feature of Western civilization is most definitively NOT the Christian Faith. The most distinctive and valuable feature of Western Civilization is Rationality, the pursue of technical solutions, the pursue of scientific knowledge, the use of Intelligence instead of Faith. It is a great testament to the power of rational thinking and decision making that the West progressed DESPITE the Christian Faith, though to be fair, the Christian Faith was toxic enough to slow down our progress. That time was called the Dark Ages, for a very good reason.

  24. Thank you for a most thoughtful piece, Andrew Joyce.

    In the hope that it comes to the attention of the woke Hero pictured, also the hortatory angry young Wimmin and their vapid companions wherever located.

  25. BorisMay says:
    @kyparissiotes

    Your perception of National Socialism is totally false. You have been brainwashed by main stream media propaganda (((mostly Jewish owned))) and you are so arrogant that you are unable to see the wood for the trees.

    Just by calling National Socialism ‘Nazism’ shows how lacking in understanding of that philosophy you actually are.

    Turning Jews in to lampshades has been proven to be a lie promoted by the Holocaust zealots.

    You are exactly what Confucius was writing about as well as the author. Someone that repeats accepted social-political lies to appear virtuous.

    You are the ultimate hypocrite. And like a hypocrite you are good at pointing out the mot in another’s eye without seeing the plank in your eye.

    Begone with you, you vacuous immoral son of the devil.

  26. Levtraro says:

    Interesting article. Thanks for writing about this branch of moral thinking and how it connects to current trends in the Western world.

    This is particularity egregious for Confucius because identity is a foundation of integrity. The person of integrity is someone who preserves a sense of what identifies the person as essentially the person they are. Or, to put it another way, you need to understand yourself and who you are before you can claim that “you” stand for anything, let alone something as lofty as moral values.

    I want to connect these ideas with the naturalistic theory of morality, the theory that morality is a product of biological evolution:

    https://kids.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/frym.2016.00003

    We are intelligent, self-aware and social primates and these three conditions (intelligence, self-awareness and sociality) lead to a key foundation for biological success: cooperation. Whatever increases cooperation, is moral. Two alternative courses of action for the same issue can be compared in terms of quantity of cooperation and the course of action that increases cooperation more, is more moral.

    The connection with Confucius, as you describe his thinking, is that to know which course of action increases cooperation the most for a given issue, you need to first define your identity and those of others involved in the course of action. Those that are closer to you in terms of identity will likely cooperate with you more. Therefore, it is likely that the course of action involving more identities like yours is the most moral course of action.

    Essentially then, from the point of the naturalistic theory of morality, Confucianism’s emphasis on having an own identity, not being a thief of virtue, allows proper calculation of the course of action that increases cooperation the most.

  27. martin_2 says:

    The difference between White people (mainly those Whites of Northern European descent) and non-White people is that White people care about what other people think of them, including even complete strangers. This is the origin of virtue signalling***. The Chinese, the Indians, only care about what their family or clan think of them, and are indifferent to their reputation with respect to strangers. This I believe is what Professor Kevin MacDonald talks about, that “reputation” is paramount for white people.

    Non-Whites will, naturally, and perfectly reasonably, go along with the anti-white narrative, since if whites are discriminated against, then non-Whites will gain access to resources, such as jobs and grants. Some weak minded and gullible whites will act similarly, because they have been taught by the media establishment and education system that to be of good repute you must endorse the anti-white narrative. There is also involved the desire for White people to be seen as high class. Racists are portrayed as dumb and uneducated low class types, non-Racists as the opposite. The people that do this know that White people’s Achilles Heel is their visceral need for approval from strangers.

    ***At one time the “left” were quite open about virtue signalling. I can remember, twenty or so years ago, an advert for the Observer newspaper, a very “left wing” UK Sunday newspaper connected to the Guardian, where the cartoon character in the ad was showing off that he had just purchased a copy and the caption read along the lines of revealing what a good and moral person he was. I wish I could find it.

    • Replies: @Cowtown Rebel
  28. Levtraro says:
    @Gapeseed

    A revival of a muscular Christianity would reorient and chasten these lost souls to a greater good, for themselves and others.

    Sure, like in the Dark Ages in Europe, that was a very muscular Christianity right there, the most muscular it has ever been, it sported very robust clergymen on top of very muscular repressive forces based on blindly robust ignorance and fanaticism.

    • Thanks: Ocko
    • Replies: @Gapeseed
  29. BorisMay says:

    The answer is to keep to your own people, and preferably your own that are able to see that most of their compatriots are brainwashed.

    The way to counter brainwashing is to choose those brainwashed souls that express some doubt about their recently acquired beliefs, because they remember believing otherwise at one time, and befriend them.

    Facts, truth and morals mean nothing to a person brainwashed in to believing and practising anything other than the new correct behaviour.

    The brainwashed are cult members and their entire existence revolves around the demands and rewards of the cult and its leaders.

    All cults are run with and controlled by fear. The entire modus operandi of all cults is ‘do what the leader says’ and you will be okay. Even if, (as with wearing masks for example), instructions change from day to day and are even totally reversed.

    Your way of disarming the cult leader is by not being judgemental, not demanding certain behaviour and by providing a loving environment for the ‘doubtful’ cult member.

    The nearest equivalent is that you should approach it like you would train a new puppy. You bring the cult follower in to your circle and ask that person to behave/have respect for/talk in the way people do in your circle. In return you offer rewards: food (shared meals): company when the cult member is lonely: and most importantly of all love.

    This is your starting point in countering the over powering cult leader and enticing the cult follower in to your circle.

  30. Miro23 says:

    Thanks for a very good article.

    Confucius’s perspective on community morality offers a nuanced and interesting perspective on some of the troubling issues confronting Western societies today, especially the total dominance of multiculturalism and Leftism in moral discourse. One of the major problems confronting movements for the defense of White interests is the culturally ubiquitous idea that such a defense is intrinsically immoral, and this idea has advanced to such a degree that several forms of defending White interests have been criminalized.

    Societies like this are heading for collapse. For example the US occupiers of Afghanistan and their client Afghanis. A sea of corruption hidden behind moralistic woke lies.

    In the event, the united and lightly armed Taliban quickly overran the US Regime since the natural instinct of corrupt self interested people is to run rather than fight.

    US woke White fashionistas won’t stand and fight either.

    They don’t stand for anything other than their own material self interest, so they’ll run away – but it’s not so clear where. They’ll likely be the “abandoned interpreters” while their Jewish masters take off with their pre prepared flights and safe destinations.

  31. Wokechoke says:
    @kyparissiotes

    “Lampshades” you say? Okay Schlomo. Speaking of things that didn’t happen outside historical fiction.

    There’s something very unjewish about the lead character in the Gospels. I’ve never met a Jew like this character. The writer certainly knew about Jewish mythopoetic writing, but the writer casting this Jesus as a hero then a God certainly appears to have pushed back hard against the spirit of this shifty tribe. Jews don’t accept a flesh and blood man as a God.

    Are you one of those JudaeoChristians?

  32. xyzxy says:

    It is perhaps an ironic twist that the introduction of Confucian thought into English was due to Christian translators, for purposes of converting Chinese to their (Christian) way of religion. For our part, we thank Ezra Pound for ‘interpreting’ (not necessarily translating) Confucian thought, making it somewhat more understandable to westerners.

    Regarding justice, one could very well turn to classical Greek thought, where individual justice was not considered equality (now it is ‘equity’), but rather giving to one was is in accord with their nature.

    At least since the influence of mostly Jewish inspired ‘New School’ thinking, along with certain strains of the so-called ‘existentialist/humanist’ philosophy, a scientistic materialist thinking where spirit is denied, along with capitalism and its western socialist variant, we are now taught that man has no nature, but rather is a fungible unit having no unique or intrinsic value apart from any other person, and replaceable by any other unit.

    In order to achieve this in practical terms, any and all aspects of organic culture, which would otherwise establish a natural hierarchy, must be destroyed. Thus, education is dumbed down to its lowest aspect, the workplace and even military becomes a haven for AA, and so forth.

    Confucius, Plato and Aristotle understood man and culture in this organic way. Tied to family and a state supporting the family. A society where citizenship has an integral meaning, and not something just bought and sold. Theirs was the correct way to understand man and society.

    • Thanks: littlereddot
  33. @martin_2

    “There is also involved the desire for White people to be seen as high class. Racists are portrayed as dumb and uneducated low class types, non-Racists as the opposite.”

    My favorite is labeling anyone that doesn’t agree with them as “ignorant.” I frequently tell people that they are more than free to think, feel, and believe whatever they want, but that doesn’t equate to knowledge. I am more interested in what you know, and that is where I often find my opposition lacking. But, as Will Rogers famously said, “We’re all ignorant, just on different subjects.” That aptly demonstrated that he understood the meaning of the word. I’ve embarrassed quite a few “educated” Whites, who, career-wise, stood well above me, but weren’t even close to being able to debate with me on U. S. history, current events or, often, general knowledge.

    Tolerance is another word that the Left seems to have no concept of. I have reminded numerous people when speaking of tolerance, what they mean is asking someone else to put up with their behavior that they find distasteful at best, abhorrent at worst. It doesn’t mean that they agree with them and it certainly doesn’t mean that they promote or champion them. They simply allow them to continue to breathe.

    I’m not well versed on the ancient philosophers, but I found this article to be very interesting and I’m glad that it has achieved more notice in the last couple of days.

    Speaking of Cartoons… Here’s one from Mad Magazine featuring the Water Closet in the Cantina on Dantooine. It looks like a transgender bathroom if I never saw one:

    https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=4Frj%2fgFx&id=4544E9C2E20A2B87C5644E599DB89E26F8D4F0B5&thid=OIP.4Frj_gFx6aSDxTq4GwgwygHaCT&mediaurl=https%3a%2f%2fth.bing.com%2fth%2fid%2fR.e05ae3fe0171e9a483c53ab81b0830ca%3frik%3dtfDU%252bCaeuJ1ZTg%26riu%3dhttp%253a%252f%252fphotos1.blogger.com%252fblogger%252f2300%252f2891%252f1600%252fMAD-wc.jpg%26ehk%3d0BQKOCwpeudIhc1k0%252fHsAs8tk4MN84SbiyFm2jj4YHk%253d%26risl%3d%26pid%3dImgRaw%26r%3d0&exph=216&expw=695&q=mad+magazine+star+wars+cantina+restroom&simid=607994917720824427&FORM=IRPRST&ck=8F824000AC7152678266EF55D95E7AEB&selectedIndex=0&idpp=overlayview&ajaxhist=0&ajaxserp=0

    • Agree: Schuetze
  34. Excellent article, nicely presented ideas.

    While racial identity and perceived superiority, for whites and Blacks and other races, tribes and ethnicities, often has the major advantage of helping others within their in group, it is childish in many ways (not necessarily a bad thing, the simplicity of children makes them more forthright and easily understood.)

    But the crux of religion is the Golden Rule, and expanding their In Group to Others. Maybe it’s a part of Li to be welcoming to foreign guests, but without that, there is no interaction between groups, no trade, no appreciation of one’s own, nor of what one sees as better in the Other group and evaluating it as worthy of implementation within.

    As to equity and the myth that “all men are equal”, and correctly expounded to “but some are more equal than others” in Animal Farm, in my school days we were taught that “all men are equal before the Law”, which is a more important tenet, but has been totally corrupted in America.

    • Replies: @HallParvey
    , @anon
  35. martin_2 says:

    One can make a career out of the following response to a white person’s virtue signalling, whatever is the topic at hand, whether it be feeding Africans, admitting refugees, protecting the environment, protecting flora and fauna, promoting homosexuals, promoting women, etcetera:

    “Yes, I understand and sympathise with what you are saying, but the trouble is, ONLY WHITE PEOPLE THINK LIKE THAT!”

    Such argument has the benefit of being true. An environemnt rally might as well be a meeting of the KKK for the number of non-white faces present. A few years ago I was arguing this very point with some goody goody white person on the Internet and they claimed there were many non-White Canadian natives, (not sure what they are called, the ones who were there before the Europeans arrived), who, along with Whites, protested oil pipelines going across their native land. But of course they did because it affected them personally, their livelihoods were at stake. The white people that joined in had no skin in the game, and no other motive but protecting the environment. Anyway I dare say the natives were really after bigger compensation payments.

  36. Those morons in the photo don’t realize that “fascism” (especially in the reductively generic definition by which they pretend to know it) has long been folded into the American system. By pretending to fight what they see as “fascism” (e.g. Trump, etc.), they are tilting at windmills, while unknowingly aiding and abetting the cryptofascists running the system.

  37. Z-man says:

    Cut the Jew and his money and this ends.
    Unfortunately the Fed keeps printing it by the truckloads.

  38. “The social pyramid itself was made cohesive and coherent through the Five Constant Relationships: Sovereign-Subject; Parent-Child; Husband-Wife; Elder Sibling-Younger Sibling; and Friend-Friend. It should be pointed out, if it isn’t already obvious, that there is no room for the stranger or the foreigner in this scheme of social obligation and ritual.”

    Is that why the Chinese went all over the world in search of foreigners to help them in the last four decades or was it in the “Confusion” writing that we find the blueprints for the microchip and the space travel? Was the automaker Confucius-Mencius a contemporary of Mercedes-Benz?

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @GomezAdddams
  39. the dualist religions of the Indian sub-Continent and the Far East, especially Buddhism

    If there is one thing Buddhism is not, it is a “dualist religion”.

  40. El Dato says:
    @Boomthorkell

    Color sensing in the past seemed a troubled, interesting thing.

    It’s mainly a labeling thing.

    You need some kind of absolute reference to compare subjective impressions, which is difficult to have.

    Same as for ethics, really.

  41. El Dato says:
    @ghali

    So develop your thoughts some more. Free terabyte available!

  42. Rdm says:

    You know they call them 白左 (Baizuo).

  43. Gapeseed says:
    @Levtraro

    Those clergyman you deride saved (and by extension helped evolve) Western Civilization.

  44. Mike Tre says:

    Virtue signaling is a very concise and appropriate term for the current phenomenon the West is engulfed in. Virtue signaling is also not something exclusive to the left, although there is no doubt they make the most use of it. In my observation, it’s always the people who shout loudest about their own own morality and virtue who are the least so. Egalitarians, altruists, born again evangelicals, environmentalists, BLMists, anti anti-semites, and every other flavor of minoritarian dreck will all shout over each other to claim moral superiority, but most normies will reach for their wallet with one hand and draw his family closer with the other when any one of the former come around peddling their wares.

    You know who the truly virtuous are? The silent ones who go to work everyday, raise their kids and are otherwise productive contributors to a nation. That’s because in every case, actions speak louder than words.

    • Agree: Richard B
    • Replies: @Richard B
    , @Marcion
  45. Richard B says:
    @obwandiyag

    There we go with that hierarchy crap again.

    There we go with that TUR Troll again.

    Since hierarchy is ubiquitous, your life must be a vale of tears.

    Good!

  46. Maddaugh says:

    Do we need Confuse Us to point out thieves of virtue. At one time were these people not known as “fakers” ?

    Whatever the moral preening in the west, even the most naive and uninformed should see that the elites push this nonsense for the “good” of the rabble. You can bet for example, that Mr. Bigg is not sending his female relatives to some sleazy Korean Spa to ogle some tranny with a monster cock.

    To add insult to injury, Mr Bigg extols the virtues of multiculturalism and diversity, BUT, not in the executive offices.

    “The rules are for THEM and they will be rewarded with the vulgar applause of the deplorables. The rules are not for ME and personally I could give a shit about woke. My only concern is my money and status.” crows Mr Bigg to the uproarious laughter of his wealthy cronies at the Country Club.

    The lap dogs of the woke crowd are too busy marching and advocating for the rights of people they dont know or would not care to know. If they spent more time using their heads they might realize they are being punked.

  47. @Gapeseed

    Humans are religious creatures and Americans were typically Christian.

    Humans are empty slates starting out, and whoever appears to be knowledgeable in the surrounding adults is listened to. Thusly, generation after generation, beliefs prevail. Among true believers in Christ, quibbling is not unknown. Slaughtering the unbelievers has been acceptable in the past. (All those who don’t share my views.) It has happened before.

    these human impulses to seek divine meaning and serve divine purpose

    Simple existence and reproduction are not enough. It’s still enough for the other creatures on the planet, but for humans, when Adam nibbled on the fruit of the tree of knowledge, he opened Pandoras’s box and humans became aware. And they began to ask questions. Oops.

    • Replies: @Expletive Deleted
  48. @michael888

    in my school days we were taught that “all men are equal before the Law”, which is a more important tenet

    That was naked idealism. Completely detached from reality. Law is whatever the government of the day says it is.

    Sharia law, for example, is about to completely change life in Afghanistan for women. Judging by the profusion of tatooed women in the west, that might not be a bad thing. Just my opinion, of course.

  49. @InnerCynic

    They look like they have crude razor stubble in their armpits.

    • LOL: InnerCynic
  50. I agree with Andews basic ideas.

    1. Many people have a tendency to hide behind something in life. I feel those people lack authenticity. They probably don’t know themselves yet because they didn’t free themselves of the umbilical chord. Of course the world is large and any individual won’t know everything but hiding behind virtue is not the solution to the problem of having poor knowledge of the issues. Who can tell the right path to go when he knows next to nothing about the issue and has his mind closed to other points of view.

    2. Confucius had some grasp of the natural structure of the early societies: the relations between neighbors, the relations within the family and within the state. Modern mathematics and system theory can help us extend Confucius ideas to the modern world but this kind of work has not emerged yet as a scientific discipline. However it is clear that social groups have a life of their own. Bernard Lugan has made it clear that there was a natural structure in African societies that was disrupted for a while by the European colonists but resumed as soon as the colonists went away.

    3. The “liberal elites” are currently doing experiments in social engineering at a large scale with much disregard for the feelings of the people impacted by those experiments, be it multiculturalism in North-America and Europe or nation building by the US and NATO administrations in the rest of the world. I would assume that chaos might be the fate of the Western world as the liberal order fails due to its own internal contradictions. We are not there yet.

    4. Finally the West has abandoned the Christian heritage that provided the structural framework of the Western societies. A new framework is going to emerge hopefully somewhere.

  51. awry says:

    Looking at “The Woke ‘Hero’ of Wi Spa” these guys look the same everywhere…

  52. TREG says:

    Wokeness is a ‘bankrupt-moral-cancer’ that posions & then rots society from the inside out.

  53. Richard B says:
    @Mike Tre

    Great comment!

    Virtue signaling is a very concise and appropriate term for the current phenomenon the West is engulfed in. Virtue signaling is also not something exclusive to the left, although there is no doubt they make the most use of it. In my observation, it’s always the people who shout loudest about their own own morality and virtue who are the least so.

    Bravo!

    I enjoy reading Andrew Joyce, Tobias Langdon, and of course, Kevin MacDonald. And I definitely liked this article. But you can value something while still seeing its flaws. I’m that way with my own point of view about anything, since I hardly own the truth.

    But the problem I have with a lot of people who claim to be concerned about the West in general and Whites in particular is that they almost always equate White with Right, as in the political Right, or some form of traditionalism and, of course, National Socialism. Even in this article AJ awkwardly tries to put Confucius into an NS straightjacket.

    An argument could be made that the Left was a reaction to the rigidity and inauthenticity of the Right itself. That doesn’t make the Left’s response any better. It just means that they’re two birds of a feather. And, in fact, they are.

    The Right and Left, in whatever form, are two 18th century Enlightenment (or even pre-Enlightenment) ideologies. And the Enlightenment can be reduced to one principle – perfect adaptatioun. In other words, perfect adaptation of the indiividual to the group and the group to the world should be the basis of all intellectual and moral decisions.

    Perfect Adaptation was an assumption then. We know it to be an impossibility today. And yet people still cling to it. Talk about a Rage for Order. Fact is, the rage for order is just a human rage. That’s all. This is the explanation for what we all know today as Polarization. How’s that worked out for us?

    The obvious solution for those who truly care about the West in general and Whites in particular is cultural transcendence, not cultural commitment to a wornout, moth-eaten ideology that has outlived lived its usefulness and has caused us all so many problems.

    In short, the solution is to transcend the Right and Left paradigm. In fact, ditch it asap.

    Cultural transcendence is impossible without valuing tradition. But you value tradition by transcending it, not staying stuck in it forever. This is why Nietzsche said conservatives think like crabs walk – backwards. A good example of this could be seen with the bumpkins who marched into an obvious set-up on January 6th of this year with signs that read: 2021 is 1776.

    And who set them up? People who want to go back even further than that, to the Talmud.

    The idea that life itself and all of the good things in it are reduced to an Either/Or choice is absurd. We live in a Both/And world, an interpreted world. And because of this we can both value the traditions of the West and transcend them. And we should. To the extent we don’t, we won’t make it.

    • Agree: Mike Tre
    • Replies: @martin_2
    , @Cowtown Rebel
  54. Marcion says:
    @Mike Tre

    No one can signal their own virtue–to attempt it would be crass and automatically nonvirtuous.

    When a bodhisattva makes an act of compassion he doesn’t even know he’s doing it or take any credit; see the Diamond Sutra. Virtue exists, don’t ever forget that, strong as ever, but the virtuous never go for the attention.

    Today’s mass postmodern psychosis includes being a poser par excellence .

    • Agree: Mike Tre
    • Replies: @p4nc4k3s Pl34s3
  55. “Village Worthies”. I like the term, unfortunately if I use it to describe, let’s see, California Governor Gavin Newsome, I will have to explain what I am really saying is the governor is an actor, an empty suit, an empty vessel, totally unworthy of our trust, and an immoral hypocrite.
    Village Unworthy is terse and to the point.
    Great article. Joyce lays it out logically and succinctly. Human nature is to live amongst your own. Has been and will always be. If you question this, and truly believe the elites are altruistic, I suggest you read “Slaughter of Cities by E.Michael Jones. And should we really identify as White or Black, or take a que fron orhers and identify by religion.

    • Replies: @Trinity
  56. @anon

    a phenomenon wherein empty persons mimic foreign ideas.

    here you’ve come closest.

    the ultimate problem is another chinese invention, The term “brainwashing” was first used in English by Edward Hunter in 1950 to describe how the Chinese government appeared to make people cooperate with them. this is also sometimes called “menticide”.

    the brainwashing is effected via mass media and education.

    the brainwashed do not know that they are brainwashed.

    The term” brainwashing” can also be called “public relations” or “propaganda”. You can’t be serious to believe this is a Chinese invention? In our modern, industrialized world (post 1920’s), it is clear the father of “brainwashing” is Edward Bernays (American/Jew). Any period prior to Industrialization did not allow for mass social reach unless you’re so brainwashed to think passing notes from pigeons to pigeons or human to human qualifies as mass social reach.

    • Replies: @anon
  57. Anonymous[409] • Disclaimer says:

    Being one who sees society strictly in utilitarian terms and possessing a rather hermitic attitude towards people and society I find myself not much moved by this analysis of fake moral virtue. I find the concept of moral virtue fake and contrived in its entirety. I truly doubt morality can really exist, but is always a pretension on the part of those who claim to possess it. All people of such stripe are “village worthies” even when they exhibit conviction. There is always nothing beneath their claims but the will to demand obedience from their listeners even when they hold a conviction otherwise.

    People with strong opinion which they are prepared back up need not appear to be moral and may be seen to be immoral. What they truly claim is authenticity which is quite different. Yet authenticity is the only thing that can be possessed. Such people may be hated or loved, supported or denied, but they exist independent of other’s opinion. They are generally loathed by moralists for they resist the moralist’s claims; especially so when they are themselves moralists.

    Indeed, no group of people deserve the fate of the goyim more than the moralist, authentic or not, for an interest in moral values is an interest in a deadly dangerous illusion. Such illusions motivate actions destructive to surrounding people. Moral arguments can lead to such absurdities as to kill all people wearing green hats because they are evil or destroy all Whites because they are inherently demonic. Most people need none of this.

    Moral arguments are illusions of sentiment important only when they are used to justify and choose punishments in the real world. Then people who otherwise would ignore or feel contempt for moralists have no choice but to pay attention to their real world politic. A world full of moralists is a world full of justifications for war and a world therefore full of wars and exterminations.

    Our world is now full of moralists, fake or otherwise in the author’s opinion, so we are marching towards a conflagration in which everything will be fed to the flames.

    • Replies: @Jack McArthur
  58. SafeNow says:

    “Biological imperatives are the needs of living organisms required to perpetuate their existence: to survive. Include the following hierarchy of logical imperatives for a living organism: survival, territorialism, competition, reproduction, quality of life-seeking, and group forming. Living organisms that do not attempt to follow or do not succeed in satisfying these imperatives are described as maladaptive; those that do are adaptive.” – Psychology Wiki

    In other words, I would argue that virtue-signaling has crossed-over from the philosophical, the intellectual, the moral, to the hard-wired biological. In the late 60’s, Joan Baez had a famous poster – – images of sexy women, and a caption “Girls say yes to boys who say no” (to the draft). Baez recognized that a biological imperative existed, and was explicitly appealing to it.

  59. Anonymous[279] • Disclaimer says:

    One of the major problems confronting movements for the defense of White interests is the culturally ubiquitous idea that such a defense is intrinsically immoral, and this idea has advanced to such a degree that several forms of defending White interests have been criminalized.

    True, but the fact that they’ve chosen to start criminalising it is proof positive of its effectiveness. They simply can’t win those battles so they’re trying to outlaw them. This desperate move changes the game from obfuscating the truth (easy) to force-feeding the lie (impossible).

    So, a parasite that’s well-adapted to spinning lies from the darkness is slithering out into the sunlight to fight its host and teach him a lesson.

    Bring it on.

  60. anon[138] • Disclaimer says:
    @dogbumbreath

    exactly right. i recall reading john macquarrie, one of the original translators of Sein und Zeit. he said how (post 1953) mass media had enabled social/mind control beyond the wildest dreams of stalin.

    even otherwise intelligent people can treat mass media as if it were a window on the world, rather than a carefully curated presentation or simply a fiction. recently this has been most glaring with WMDs, russia-gate, george floyd. mass media doesn’t report reality. it creates “reality”.

  61. martin_2 says:
    @Richard B

    Surely crabs walk sideways.

    • Replies: @Richard B
  62. @Anonymous

    Shared values make a stable community. Fake values based on nothing other than what a powerful destructive minority desires, which people mouth for ignoble reasons, doesn’t detract. That morals are believed by many to have a divine inspiration takes nothing away from the concept of shared values for those who believe in nations, cultures and their protection. That people do not always live up to the values they profess is only a recognition of their humanity. Portia’s speech in the Merchant of Venice comes to mind:

    “The quality of mercy is not strained.
    It droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven
    Upon the place beneath. It is twice blest:
    It blesseth him that gives and him that takes.
    ‘Tis mightiest in the mightiest; it becomes
    The thronèd monarch better than his crown.
    His scepter shows the force of temporal power,
    The attribute to awe and majesty
    Wherein doth sit the dread and fear of kings;
    But mercy is above this sceptered sway.
    It is enthronèd in the hearts of kings;
    It is an attribute to God Himself;
    And earthly power doth then show likest God’s
    When mercy seasons justice. Therefore, Jew,
    Though justice be thy plea, consider this:
    That in the course of justice none of us
    Should see salvation. We do pray for mercy,
    And that same prayer doth teach us all to render”

  63. Anonymous[172] • Disclaimer says:

    I’m white and I can tell you this. White people hate each other. I’ll tell you why. They are obsessed with status and money. They think having more money than somebody makes you better than them. Do you know how many doofus white guys made good money just by falling into the right company and working there for 30 years? These idiots have a few million and live in nice homes but are dumb as a stump. They lack creativity, initiative, few can fix anything or build anything. They don’t work out. They do nothing!

    Their kids are lazy. Few have sons who work out and try to better themselves. They just play games and avoid responsibility. Their daughters dress like sluts everytime they leave the house. Oh yeah, these men are really doing great. Their wives are lazy too.

    Money ruins alot of people.

    But they have it! And no way some stupid overweight white guy with money is going to be told what to do. He owned a couple dunkin donuts and made 250k a year! So he knows everything!

    Pile on the social justice and make these fools listen to it. They need a taste of their own selfish medicine.

    White people are in for a rude awakening.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Expletive Deleted
  64. Regarding the story of the Korean spa in which a naked transsexual exposed his penis when children were around and the staff reacted robotically, (that is, not at all), I told a story with a similar theme some time ago.

    It took place at Disneyland and was told to me by a woman who goes there regularly. At the women’s public restroom, some clown had entered and was hanging around, claiming he had the right to be there as he felt like a woman that day. This is the significant part—-none, of the younger women with children told him to scram. They simply tolerated his standing there ogling the women. Finally, an older woman entered and indignantly asked him what he was doing there and that he should get out before she reported him to the parks security. He left.

    The point of the story, to my friend at least,.was how afraid or unsure, the younger women were in even challenging this person. They were already from a generation that had been brainwashed by the gender nonsense and other similar sickness.

  65. anon[138] • Disclaimer says:
    @michael888

    But the crux of religion is the Golden Rule

    this is why i wouldn’t be down with the holocaust while at the same time i think it is understandable in its context.

    this is why there are holocaust deniers. just imagine yourself in the himmelstrasse. it’s un-imaginable.

    the roman church is fubar in so many ways, but…

    the world’s oldest and largest institution may be “the last best hope of earth”.

    doug stanhope: that new nazi…you know he used to be a pope?

    stat crux dum volvitur orbis?

    or must european man be liberated from jewish superstition?

  66. anon[138] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    exactly.

    anti-racism is a status symbol (in a country where > 1/3d of the richest are children of the corn).

    are wypipo worth saving?

    but…

    there’s a reason the “national socialist german workers party” wasn’t called the “international capitalist multiracial bourgeois party”.

    did the US embassy in kabul really fly a gay pride flag?

  67. Confucius say ‘young peepul stupid and easy to sway.’

  68. Trinity says:
    @the grand wazoo

    Obviously we should identify with our race. I have far more in common with a White atheist than a Black Christian. I really could care less if someone worships a rock as long as they have the same values as MOST Whites. Some so-called Christians are the BIGGEST PHONIES on the face on the planet while some atheist Whites are sometimes more trustworthy and fair minded. And White Muslims are bonkers. A token “White” or “Black” Jew is hysterical.

  69. Trinity says:
    @anon

    Which came first the Holocaust or the Holodomor? That is assuming the Holocaust (((official narrative))) is true.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  70. Cappy says:

    The discussion on meritocracy and hierarchy left out an essential point, namely that said meritocracy shaped that hierarchy. The author notes that Confucius understood that true virtue can exist in all kinds of people, including peasants, and is therefore independent of class. And virtue forms the basis of what Confucius understood to be merit in the context of leadership: those who were truly virtuous (and perhaps those who could put it into practice) were the ones most fit to lead others. Accordingly, the imperial exams were open to all, no matter their current station in life. In practice, those with money were the ones who had the means to study and sit for these exams, but various measures were put into place over the centuries to allow the less fortunate to study the classics (which formed the content of the exams), pass the exams, and attain well-paid positions. As Confucius himself said, “If the descendants of kings and princes lack quality, they should be brought down to the status of the peasants. And if peasants have quality, they should be elevated to the ranks of the rulers.”

  71. @Marcion

    Matthew 6:5 comes to mind as a lesson on virtuousness.

  72. Ron Unz says:
    @Cappy

    And virtue forms the basis of what Confucius understood to be merit in the context of leadership: those who were truly virtuous (and perhaps those who could put it into practice) were the ones most fit to lead others. Accordingly, the imperial exams were open to all, no matter their current station in life. In practice, those with money were the ones who had the means to study and sit for these exams, but various measures were put into place over the centuries to allow the less fortunate to study the classics (which formed the content of the exams), pass the exams, and attain well-paid positions. As Confucius himself said, “If the descendants of kings and princes lack quality, they should be brought down to the status of the peasants. And if peasants have quality, they should be elevated to the ranks of the rulers.”

    That’s exactly correct, and a unique feature of traditional Chinese society, with important consequences.

    If you haven’t already done so, you might want to take a look at an article I published a decade ago on some of these issues:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/how-social-darwinism-made-modern-china-248/

    • Replies: @E_Perez
    , @Wokechoke
  73. JohnH says:
    @Boomthorkell

    You might read some serious treatises on color if you are able — say Newton, Goethe or Schopenhauer.

  74. Rich says:
    @kyparissiotes

    I think maybe you miss the whole point of Christ’s mission on earth. He changed the entire law. No more “eye for an eye”, no more divorce(except in cases of infidelity). No more keeping kosher, no more circumcision, no more animal sacrifice, salvation through “faith, not works.” I would argue that except for initial belief in the One True God whom “the builders rejected” when they crucified His Son, there is obvious opposition to the Old Covenant.

  75. Anon[363] • Disclaimer says:
    @A Half Naked Fakir

    There actually still are people who believe that America put people on the moon. Lol. Dumbass

    • Replies: @A Half Naked Fakir
  76. E_Perez says:
    @kyparissiotes

    the militarism of the Nazis, their contempt for the human dignity of the other, … Confucius never advocated making lampshades out of people he didn’t like.

    The price of reading excellent articles and mostly good comments on unz.com is that we have to endure commenters like this “kyparissiotes” who still believe in lampshade and other Holo stories which have been abandoned decades ago by the most hard-boiled hololiers.

  77. Ocko says:
    @Badger Down

    Screaming lies about NationalSocialism is just another ‘woke’ thing you have to do. ‘All whites are evil especially Adolf’.

    I think, that guy didn’t realize what the Article was saying.

    I went to catholic school and got a truckload of lies and “virtue screaming leaders’ who had no heart.

    It made me aware of these things. But knowing lies doesn’t make you know truth.

    To find truth is a never-ending pursuit.

    And truth is the base of virtue and moral.

  78. @A Half Naked Fakir

    Must be a disciple of Greta Thundberg—Swede Pride–

    • Replies: @A Half Naked Fakir
  79. @Anonymous

    Razy! No ree-speck! etc. etc.
    Yellow hands typed this poast

  80. @Cappy

    Well yes. Manifestly. Are you to be the judge?
    Bellendicus.

  81. @HallParvey

    Humans are empty slates starting out

    Didn’t even make it over Beecher’s Brook. A tragedy. Call the vet.

  82. @anon

    US troops captured in Korea were actually ‘unbrainwashed’ by their Korean and Chinese captors. Introduced to new ideas for once in their thoroughly indoctrinated ‘Exceptional’ existences, many began to question the verities of the ‘Free World’. That is why the greatest brainwashing effort was undertaken on returned POWs, to weed out the new non-conformists.

    • Replies: @littlereddot
  83. @Trinity

    Alphabetically, the Holocaust. Does anyone know when the conveniently almost exactly identical and contrived term ‘Holodomor’ was confected? And where?

  84. @anon

    Talmudic Judaism absolutely refutes the Golden Rule when dealing with the goyim. Indeed it preaches the opposite.

  85. @Richard B

    Your post sounds like a very fancy way of saying, “It’s All Good!” There is another saying, “He who stands for nothing, will fall for anything.”

    Would you prefer the current “Rage for Disorder” practiced by the Burn Loot Murder, Antiface, miscreants? If so, then may it soon be brought to a neighborhood near you. It seems to have more momentum than any “Rage for Order” manifested by the concerned citizens that peacefully demonstrated on January 6th.

    As for rigidity and a reaction to it, two ideals should always serve as the guide principles: all things in moderation, and to properly exercise freedom means to assume great responsibility.

    If we continue to devolve in the manner that you advocate, we will soon all transcend into a disorganized, dysfunctional mass of disparate and desperate humanity digging through the debris of a devastated Western civilization. If we transcend in the way you’ve described, We definitely won’t make it.

    • Replies: @Richard B
  86. HbutnotG says:
    @Gapeseed

    Religion was explained to me as necessary because humans, unlike any other living thing, have a will. So I guess if you do something stupid you have to have something to blame that on, other than yourself.

    So sky daddies were invented.

  87. E_Perez says:
    @Ron Unz

    If you haven’t already done so, you might want to take a look at an article I published a decade ago on some of these issues:

    We read your article, Mr. Unz. It is well researched and astonishing for the time it was published.

    But it dances around the White Elephant in the room.

    Europeans did not need Chinese lectures on ‘meritocracy’ to abandon aristocratic rule. Social mobility in Fascist and National Socialist systems were high and merit based and so similar to modern China that some (including some unz-Authors) are tagging current China as a National Socialist system.

  88. @mulga mumblebrain

    Well said!

    US troops captured in Korea were actually ‘unbrainwashed’ by their Korean and Chinese captors. Introduced to new ideas for once in their thoroughly indoctrinated ‘Exceptional’ existences, many began to question the verities of the ‘Free World’

    Actually this website are one of the few that function as Unbrainwashing Centres for the “Free World”.

    God save me from Western propaganda!

  89. Richard B says:
    @Cowtown Rebel

    What a long-winded Strawman.

    Not at any point in your comment did you accurately describe what I actually wrote. A better example of an unreflective reaction comment would be hard to imagine.

    • Replies: @Cowtown Rebel
  90. @Richard B

    You’ve got some nerve labeling me as long winded. My response to your post was half as long as the space that you used to try to convince everyone that the only way to honor tradition was to dispense with it. Or, as you assert “you value tradition by transcending it.” That means to leave it behind and move on to something else. But, what? If Whites care about their culture and Western Civilization, why would they want to transcend from it? What would you suggest we transcend to? Amorphous beings, infinitely malleable and able to mutate into any conceivable and convenient form to suit any occasion or blend into any atmosphere?

    What society doesn’t experience some degree of polarization? Either/Or are choices you make when deciding what to have for dinner, which movie to watch, and numerous other simple alternatives that present themselves daily. Good/Evil are directions that you take when deciding how to live and what kind of an example you want to set for others to follow.

    Which worn out, moth eaten ideologies are we to transcend and what are we to adopt in its place? You gave no hint of either, just a condemnation of the past as being trite and the insistence that some undefined change is the only way forward. You seem to want to up and abandon all that is established and to replace it with whatever arises from the void, and label it transcendence. If not, then what are you suggesting?

  91. Wokechoke says:
    @Ron Unz

    Universities ought to be the places for sifting through the moral, intellectual and sporty quantities of quality and dross. But now our universities are being run by fanatical ideologues who actively and perversely persecute white men. The western university system used to be an intellectual asylum for the brainy outliers as well. Now it’s a conformist trap.

  92. @Anon

    Just like the Chinese went to the far side of the Moon. LMAO. A real dumbass!

  93. @GomezAdddams

    A disciple of loony Greata? I don’t think so, pappy…

  94. Richard B says:
    @martin_2

    Surely crabs walk sideways.

    Since time moves forward, sideways is backwards.

  95. Absolutely loved this essay. So thought provoking, I was inspired to ask a Chinese colleague of mine what he thought baizuo meant.

    As per usual it was full of lack of clarity, obfuscation and stupidity.

    I’d love to see you get more abusive, Mr. Joyce.

    I think your heartfelt abuse, combined with your dispassionate analysis, would be a fulfillment of your promise.

    Almost 100% of so called White advocates on the internet are book sellers or grifters.

    But you? You!

  96. As per usual it was full of lack of clarity, obfuscation and stupidity.

    Well it is probably a very new term. In itself the term is extremely vague, it simply means “white left”. I would think only someone who is interested in politics or American politics as discussed in China in particular would be up to date.

    Besides, China is a big place. On the map it is the size of eastern and western Europe combined. If Europe has so many languages, you can also expect regional differences in language and jargon in China, even it is just confined to Mandarin as a lingua franca.

    Actually the first time I came across that term was by the poster. New terms are always being invented. This week I learned from an American what “generational warrior” meant. Ask any Brit or Ozzie, and the chances are he will give you a blank look too.

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