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Barren Summit
Forty years and counting
Since Kennedy was killed
And our vacuum of leadership
Still has not been filled.Why should those shoes present
Such difficulty filling?
The candidates are weeded out
By those who did the killing.by David Martin, author of The Assassination of James Forrestal (2019)
The last few years have been a painful time for those of us old enough to remember the 1960s. Over my lifetime I watched my country decline by every measure of greatness. It’s been excruciating, slow and nearly imperceptible from day to day, like water torture. Who would have guessed, even ten years ago, that we would now be on the brink of nuclear war with Russia? Each day, I scour the news and Internet hoping and praying for the peace movement to show up. But where are they? Even as events continue to escalate and momentum builds for a wider war in eastern Europe, I see no placards, no protesters in the streets, and very little evidence that our people understand what is happening. I never thought it would come to this.
World War II concluded ~78 years ago and today almost no one is left alive who remembers. Must we relive the nightmares of history every third or fourth generation simply because humans do not live long enough to preserve the horrific memories of the last war? Something within me resists this explanation, however, as too simplistic. There is another possibility: that our people have been disenfranchised, so dumbed down and demoralized by umpteen years of nonstop propaganda (including Russia-hate) that they are no longer able to think clearly, nor act to restore our country.
In my opinion, the greatest measure of our decline has been the abysmal quality of our leadership, especially at the national level. If this is true, then we must ask: How did it happen? In articles I read and while talking with friends, I often see/hear it repeated that the downward spiral started with the assassination of John F. Kennedy. I agree and take it as self evident that rightful authority has been under assault ever since.
Recently, I was compelled to modify my own views about the JFK murder, after reading an extraordinary book by a French writer Laurent Guyenot, From Yahweh to Zion (2020). The author is an outstanding biblical scholar, and he has written the most penetrating analysis of Zionism I have ever seen. Like many Americans, I once believed that the CIA and Italian mafia were behind the JFK assassination. But I now discount the-CIA-&-mob-did-it narrative as just another limited hangout.
Over the years, I studied the JFK murder spasmodically, returning to the issue again and again. But the truth remained elusive because of false leads, misdirections and conflicting narratives, the purpose of which, we need to understand, is to obfuscate the facts and keep us in the dark. Yet, despite all of the mind control and propaganda, evidence has been mounting that vice president Lyndon Johnson (LBJ) orchestrated the assassination of John F. Kennedy. I will now present some of the most salient points, the gist of what I have learned.
President John F. Kennedy’s plan to drop Lyndon Johnson from the ticket during his upcoming re-election campaign in 1964 has been widely reported. But less well known is the fact that Johnson was not only going to be replaced, he was facing prison time. During his brother’s first term, Attorney General Robert Kennedy learned a great deal about Johnson’s criminal activities. And RFK had begun feeding this evidence to the Senate Rules Committee. Just hours before his brother was gunned down in Dallas, the committee heard testimony that Johnson had received a $100,000 kickback for finagling a contract with a Ft Worth Texas firm, General Dynamics, to build the F-111 fighter plane. (Roger Stone, The Man Who Killed Kennedy, 2013, p. 198)
There was also evidence Johnson received another large kickback from a Texas businessman, Billie Sol Estes. Earlier, Johnson had tipped off Estes that Congress would soon pass a bill to pay farmers not to grow cotton. At the time, the country had a huge cotton surplus and the glut was driving down the price. Estes moved quickly to exploit the inside information by leasing hundreds of thousands of acres of Texas farmland, which ‘entitled’ him to millions in subsidies. Later, he admitted that he personally delivered a suitcase with $200,000 in cash to Johnson as payment for the tip. (James T. Tague, LBJ and the Kennedy Killing, 2013, p. 400)
Life Magazine was also gathering evidence about Johnson’s shady dealings and was set to run an expose in the next issue. Today, few Americans realize that at the time of JFK’s murder Johnson was facing a corruption scandal and the likelihood of prosecution. Had the facts come out, LBJ’s political career would have been over. Vice president Johnson only flipped the situation by removing the man who stood in his path to power. (The Man Who Killed Kennedy, p. 199)
Several of Johnson’s Texas associates, including his secretary Bobby Baker and Billie Sol Estes eventually did go to prison. Years later, Estes told a Texas Grand Jury that Johnson had ordered the murders of at least six other people, these were before Kennedy, including his own loose-lipped sister. Johnson’s sister Josepha apparently drank too much, slept around, and knew far too much about the stolen 1948 election that put Lyndon in the US Senate. In 1951, Johnson’s hit man, Mac Wallace, was convicted of one of these murders in the first degree. It was only Johnson’s skill at perverting the Texas judicial system that got Wallace off with a five-year suspended sentence. If this sounds incredible, that was also my reaction. Nonetheless, it happens to be true. (LBJ and the Kennedy Killing, p 395 – 400)
Some of the most damning testimony against Johnson was given by a prostitute named Madeleine Brown, his mistress of twenty-one years and the mother of one of his three known out-of-wedlock children. In later years, Brown spoke freely to researchers about what she knew. In 1988, she told James T. Tague that on New Year’s Eve, 1964, a very intoxicated Johnson told her the sordid tale about how he arranged Kennedy’s assassination. (LBJ and the Kennedy Killing, p. 321)
Should we believe her? Is the testimony of a prostitute credible? The late author James T. Tague thought so. In his 2013 book, LBJ and the Kennedy Killing Tague stated that although initially he dismissed Brown’s story as outlandish, over the years as he dug deeper he was able to corroborate nearly everything she told him. Tague was himself in Dallas on the day Kennedy died. He was standing near the Dealey Plaza overpass when it happened, and was slightly wounded by a small piece of concrete that flew up in his face when an errant bullet hit the nearby curb. The experience made such a deep impression on Tague that he spent the next forty years investigating Kennedy’s murder. His book makes for essential reading. (LBJ and the Kennedy Killing, p. 353-356)
But on the night before the killing there was also a fateful meeting in Dallas at the sprawling suburban home of oil millionaire Clint Murchison. It was billed as a birthday party with dinner and drinks to honor J. Edgar Hoover, FBI Director whose long-time friendship with Murchison is well documented. Hoover and his partner Clyde Tolson (second in command at the FBI) were frequent guests at Murchison’s famous race track at La Jolla, California. Both men were gamblers and loved horse racing.
That evening, Johnson did not arrive until well after midnight as the guests were thinning out. At which time, a smaller group gathered in a separate room behind closed doors. Brown told Tague she waited in the living room, and when this second meeting finally broke up, Johnson came over, squeezed her hand, and whispered in her ear: “after tomorrow those Kennedys will never embarrass me again.” (LBJ and the Kennedy Killing, p. 356)
Madeleine Brown held an executive position at a commercial advertising firm in Dallas. She told a friend she worked in advertising by day and as a call girl by night. She was a high-class hooker and came to know many powerful and wealthy men in Texas society. She was a familiar face for this reason and because of her relationship with Johnson. Brown knew all of the principals at Murchison’s party and she identified twenty-five individuals who stayed for the subsequent meeting. Her list of names originally appeared in Robert Gaylon Ross’s 2001 book, The Elite serial Killers. Tague acknowledges that Brown had been drinking that night. He concedes that her list needs further vetting. Clarity about who left early and who stayed for the late night meeting is vital because the latter group was complicit in the murder of Kennedy.
Murchison’s cook and the butler corroborated some of the names, as did Robert Gaylon Ross who was Tague’s friend. I am not going to discuss every name on the list, only those that in my view are the most important. Here is the list.
- H. L. Hunt, billionaire oil man
- Texas governor John Connally
- FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover
- Clyde Tolson, second in command of the FBI
- Dallas mayor Earle Cabell
- ex-Dallas mayor R. L. Thornton
- Dallas County sheriff Bill Decker
- Jack Ruby
- Carlos Marcello
- Texas ranger and US marshal Clint Peoples
- W. O. Bankston, local car dealer
- Joe Yarbrough, construction
- George Brown, of Brown and Root
- Amon G. Carter Jr.
- John Currington, advisor to H. L. Hunt
- John McCloy, chairman of the Council on Foreign Relations
- B. R. Sheffield, military construction
- Cliff Carter, executive director of the Democratic National Committee
- Joe Civello, Dallas mafia
- Larry Campbell, Jimmy Hoffa representative
- Don Smith, General manager, Del Mar race track
- Mac Wallace, assassin
Notice, the list includes Texas Governor John Connally, Dallas mayor Earle Cabell, the ex-mayor R. L. Thornton, and the Dallas County sheriff Bill Decker. Through Cabell and Decker Johnson also controlled Dallas chief of police Jesse Curry and the chief of homicide, Will Fritz.
Governor Connally’s name was on the list, and his role was crucial. It was Connally who originally invited president Kennedy to Texas. A problem arose, however, because the White House advance man, Jerry Bruno, insisted on a different motorcade route that did not include Dealey Plaza, which was the site for the planned hit. When Connally refused to budge about the route the disagreement became so bitter the White House asked Bill Moyers, then deputy director of the Peace Corps, to try to mediate a solution. Moyers was close to both Connally and Johnson. It was only after Connally threatened to cancel the presidential visit altogether that the White House finally relented and agreed to the route through Dealey Plaza. (The Man Who Killed Kennedy, p. 222-223)
Another dust up also involved Connally, though indirectly. Early on the evening of November 21, Kennedy summoned Johnson to his suite at the Rice Hotel in Houston. A fierce argument ensued about who would sit where in the motorcade the next day in Dallas. Johnson wanted Connally to ride with him out of concern for his safety. But Kennedy wanted a show of party unity and insisted that Senator Ralph Yarborough should ride with Johnson. Yarborough was the leader of the liberal wing of the Democratic Party in Texas, while Johnson led the conservative Democrats. This meant Connally would sit with Kennedy in the lead vehicle, exposing him to serious injury or death. Kennedy won the argument. A furious Johnson reportedly stormed out of the room.
Despite the risks, Connally did as he was told. He had been Johnson’s subservient bagman ever since the stolen 1948 election when he served as Johnson’s campaign manager. Johnson once bragged: ‘I can call John Connally at midnight, and if I tell him to come over and clean my shoes, he’ll come running.’ Johnson’s argument with Kennedy in Houston explains why he did not arrive at Murchison’s until after midnight. (Robert A. Caro, Means of Ascent, 1990, p.118)
Also present was Amon G. Carter, Jr., owner of the Ft. Worth Star Telegram, the largest circulation newspaper in Texas. Carter also owned WBAC radio and a TV network, Channel 5 (NBC 5).
As noted, J. Edgar Hoover was also in attendance. He was a long time ally of Johnson’s and his role was vital: Hoover would manage the cover up. The FBI would control the forensic evidence and steer any investigation toward the predetermined narrative of a lone gunman.
Consider that through the aforementioned individuals Johnson controlled state and local government, the site for the planned hit, law enforcement, the media, and the cover up. LBJ had all of the bases covered.
But Johnson also had unlimited financial backing from the oil patch. Oil tycoon H. L. Hunt was present and no doubt shared his friend Clint Murchison’s antipathy for president Kennedy. Both men stood to lose millions if Kennedy went ahead with his announced plan to reduce or eliminate the oil depletion allowance. Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg once stated that her mother Jackie Kennedy Onassis believed that Texas oil men were behind the murder of her husband. (LBJ and the Kennedy Killing, p. 353)
At least one of the shooters was present, Mac Wallace who was a convicted murderer, as noted. Years later, a previously unidentified fingerprint that police lifted from a cardboard box on the sixth floor of the Texas Book Depository would be found to match Wallace’s prints taken at the time of his 1951 murder trial. (Jesse E. Curry, JFK Assassination File, 1969, p. 53; also see Barr McClellan, Blood. Money & Power: How LBJ Killed JFK, 2003; also see LBJ and the Kennedy Killing, p. 392)
Also present was the man who shot Lee Harvey Oswald: Jack Ruby. It is common knowledge that Ruby was a mobster and I had always assumed this meant the Italian variety. But I was wrong. Ruby’s actual name was Jacob Leon Rubenstein and he was the son of Jewish Polish immigrants. Ruby’s connections were with the Jewish underworld. According to former Los Angeles Police Department detective Gary Wean, Ruby was friendly with Los Angeles gangster Mickey Cohen who had replaced Benjamin “Bugsy Siegel” Siegelbaum as Jewish crime boss on the West coast. Detective Wean accumulated a large file on Cohen, and he claims that in 1946 when he first encountered Ruby in Los Angeles, Ruby was riding with Cohen in a large black limousine. A year later, Wean was introduced to Ruby at an LA nightclub known as Harry’s Place. (Gary Wean, There’s a Fish in the Courthouse, 1987, p. 681)
In his autobiography Mickey Cohen describes how he became infatuated with Zionism. He also explains how, after World War II, he started shipping army contraband and surplus weapons to the Irgun. (Mickey Cohen, In My Own Words, 1975, p. 91-92)
Cohen was personally acquainted with Irgun chief Menachem Begin whom he met while the terrorist was ‘on the lam’ sojourning in California. At the time, Begin was still wanted in Israel/Palestine for blowing up the King David Hotel in 1946. He would remain in the political wilderness until the 1967 Six Day War when prime minister Levi Eshkol invited him to join a ‘government of national unity.’ That signaled Begin’s ‘rehabilitation.’ Later, he would stage a political comeback and even become Israeli prime minister.
But Ruby was also associated with the ‘chairman of the board,’ Meyer Lansky, godfather of the Jewish underworld. Ruby owned a stake in Lansky’s gambling casino, the Colonial Inn, located north of Miami Beach. (Jim Marrs, Crossfire, 1989, p. 392)
Lanksy was also a Zionist with strong Israel connections. Lansky was a major donor to Israel and to the Anti-Defamation League (ADL). His daughter Mira Lansky Boland later became an ADL official. (Steven Fox, Blood and Power: Organized Crime in Twentieth Century America, 1989, p. 314.)
I wish I had space here to adequately cover Meyer Lansky. But to do him ‘justice’ would fill a book. Lansky was the long-time accomplice and partner in crime of the notorious ‘Lucky’ Luciano. He was instrumental in arranging the historic meetings in 1943 between Luciano and the US Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI). At the time Luciano was serving a 30 – 50 year prison sentence in New York for running a prostitution racket. The US Navy needed the assistance of Luciano’s syndicate to protect US harbors and shipping from German sabotage and attacks that had become a serious problem. The deal crafted in the meetings with Luciano, mediated by Lansky, achieved the desired objective.
Later, Luciano’s mafia connections assured the success of the US invasion of Sicily and the roll back of Benito Mussolini. After the war, the US commuted Luciano’s sentence for services rendered and deported him back to Italy. Mussolini hated the mafia and by the 1930s had nearly eradicated it. But the fateful US government compromise with Luciano enabled the mafia to recover. Within two years, Luciano had rebuilt his heroin trafficking operation in Sicily on a bigger scale than ever. Meanwhile, Lansky managed Luciano’s financial affairs in the US. (Alfred W. McCoy, The Politics of Heroin, 1972, p. 28 – 45)
In 1949-1950, Lansky also helped Luciano set up the notorious French Connection that handled the processing and transport of Turkish opium to Marseilles where it was processed into heroin, then sent on to the US. The network was not solely Jewish and involved elements of Luciano’s Sicilian/Italian mafia and even Corsicans. But Lansky handled the finances and arranged the laundering of the profits. The Lansky-Luciano network ‘prospered’ for many years and resulted in a huge explosion of drug addiction in American cities. Much of the heroin entered the US through Cuba and Florida. Transport was handled by another Lansky ally, the Trafficante family based in Tampa. (The Politics of Heroin, p. 44-45)
A large portion of the profits returned to Europe where it was laundered through Swiss banks. After washing, the money came back to the US or went elsewhere for investment. Lansky, a wizard at laundering illicit money, used a number of Swiss banks including one he personally owned, the Exchange and Investment Bank of Geneva. Another was the brainchild of an orthodox rabbi, Tibor Pinchas Rosenbaum: the International Credit Bank (ICB) of Geneva. (The Politics of Heroin, p. 45; also see Michael Collins Piper, Final Judgement, 2004, chapters 7, 11 and 12))
ICB was a Jewish bank. Rosenbaum had also co-founded the World Zionist Congress and was a director (and treasurer) of the Jewish Agency. ICB had a reputation for accepting deposits from anywhere, no questions asked. Various ministries of the Israeli government held accounts at the bank, including the Mossad, the Defense Ministry, and the Histadrut, Israel’s labor federation. Another account was held by the Israel Corporation, a government supported development company. According to a report in the New York Times, ICB was used by the Israeli government for arms purchases and to ‘help channel funds from the international Jewish community into Israel.’ (Clyde H. Farnsworth, ‘A Global Bank Tangle and its Lost Millions’, The New York Times, April 9, 1975)
Did Israel use laundered drug money to finance arms deals, or even to finance Israel’s ultra-secret nuclear weapons program? It is possible. On one occasion Shimon Peres reportedly called up Rosenbaum and demanded $7 million dollars within 24 hours ‘for Israel’s national security.’ Rosenbaum complied and delivered the funds overnight. Given this kind of activity it is not surprising that ICB collapsed in 1974-1976 amidst claims of skimming and looted assets. The story is so tangled it resembles a trip down Alice’s rabbit hole or through the looking glass. (‘A Global Bank Tangle and its Lost Millions’)
With very few exceptions, students of the JFK assassination have typically passed over in silence the almost certain involvement of the Jewish underworld in the crime of the century. This needs to change for a reason that ought to be self-evident. In the early 1960s, Attorney General Robert Kennedy’s legal crusade against organized crime posed a serious and immediate threat to Meyer Lansky’s crime network in the US. In 1961, Kennedy’s justice department incarcerated Mickey Cohen, Lansky’s west coast boss, and charged him with tax evasion. (Wyatt Reid, Inside Mob Boss Mickey Cohen’s flashy Reign as the King of Los Angeles, August 6, 2022, posted at https://allthatsinteresting.com/mickey-cohen )
By 1963, RFK’s justice department was also targeting another Lansky figure, Carlos Marcello, who managed Lansky’s holdings in New Orleans. They had already deported Marcello once and in 1963 were attempting to do so again. The Jewish mob certainly had a motive to get rid of Kennedy. It is called self preservation. So, I was not surprised to learn that Marcello’s name is on the list, and that he was present that night at Murchison’s. (Hank Messick, Lansky, 1971, p. 86 – 87)
They say a sign hung above the door at Marcello’s Town and Country motel in New Orleans. The sign read: THREE CAN KEEP A SECRET IF TWO ARE DEAD. Although Marcello’s actual role in the JFK assassination remains unclear, one likely reason for his attendance in Dallas would have been to represent Lansky.
Jack Ruby’s role, on the other hand, was highly visible. Later, Ruby told his defense attorney William Kunstler that he killed Oswald “for the Jews.” The admission is so shocking that I obtained a copy of Kunstler’s autobiography just to confirm that Ruby said it. No mistake, the quote can be found in Kunstler’s book in black-and-white, verbatim. But no less shocking was Kunstler’s verbal hocus-pocus as he attempted to spin the comment and explain it away. (William Kunstler, My Life as a Radical Lawyer, 1996, p. 158-160)
Kunstler described Ruby as ‘as one of the most confused and confusing people I ever met.’ But Ruby seems perfectly clear to me in a 1965 interview. ( https://youtu.be/pooxqYBIlEw ) Notice, at the end Ruby mentions that if Adlai Stevenson had been vice president the JFK assassination would never have happened. His meaning could not be more clear. Stevenson was Kennedy’s preferred choice for VP in 1960. Ruby is fingering Johnson for Kennedy’s murder.
According to Peter Dale Scott, one of the first phone calls Ruby made after Oswald’s arrest was to Al Gruber, an associate of Mickey Cohen. (Peter Dale Scott, Deep Politics and the Death of JFK, 1993, p. 143)
My own view is that Ruby was under orders from LBJ to make the hit on Oswald. But it is also possible, even likely, that Ruby needed some additional ‘persuasion’ to stiffen his nerve. Any mob decision to cover up the assassination of a US president would have had to come from the very top. That might have been Luciano but for the fact Luciano passed away the previous year. In November 1963, that left Meyer Lansky as the boss of bosses. But Lansky would never have delivered such a message in person. He would have delegated the chore to someone close to Ruby. But not Cohen who was still behind bars.
As Gail Raven, a former girl friend and exotic dancer at Ruby’s Carousal Club put it: ‘He had no choice….Jack had bosses, just like everyone else.’ Notice that Raven refers to ‘bosses,’ not boss. (Arnaldo M. Fernandez, “The Hit Man And The Mobster: Jack Ruby And Santos Trafficante,” posted at https://jfkfacts.org/the-man-and-the-mobster-jack-ruby-and-santos-trafficante/ )
Dorothy Kilgallen nearly busts open the case
Dorothy Kilgallen was one of the most intelligent journalists who wrote about the Kennedy assassination. She was also one of the bravest. For many years, Kilgallen was a regular on the popular TV quiz show, What’s My Line? where she displayed an ability to think on her feet. Kilgallen had a knack for discovering the true identity of the featured guests. She also wrote a weekly news/gossip column that was carried by 200 papers. Kilgallen’s specialty was juicy tid-bits from Hollywood, high profile court cases and unsolved murders. By the 1950s, Kilgallen enjoyed a celebrity status unmatched in her day.
She was also a dogged investigator with the instincts of a blood hound. After the Kennedy assassination, Kilgallen was first journalist to question the official narrative of a lone gunman. Indeed, she did so in her very next column posted one week after the assassination. On November 29, 1963, she wrote: “The case is closed is it? Well I’d like to know how in a big smart town like Dallas, a man like Jack Ruby, operator of a striptease honky tonk, could stroll in and out of police headquarters as if it were a health club at a time when a small army of law enforcers was keeping a ‘tight security guard’ on Oswald….That is why so many people are saying there is ‘something queer’ about the killing of Oswald, something strange about the way his case was handled, a great deal missing in the official account…”
Later, when Kilgallen attended the trial in Dallas of Jack Ruby she was the only journalist to be granted a private interview with the accused (on two occasions). This was at Ruby’s request. Apparently ‘What’s My Line?’ was one of Jack’s favorite TV shows. Kilgallen wrote that she stayed behind at the trial because she had been told Ruby wanted to talk. When Ruby’s co-counsel Joe Tonahill beckoned to her she went up to the defense table. Ruby rose and politely shook hands. She wrote that although he was smiling ‘the total effect was inexpressibly sad.’
Kilgallen described him in harrowing terms: ‘Ruby’s eyes were glassy and when we shook hands, his hand trembled in mine ever so slightly like the heartbeat of a bird. I’m nervous and worried, he told her. I feel I’m on the verge of something I don’t understand, the breaking point maybe. Ruby then told her he was ‘really scared.’ ( https://www.thedorothykilgallenstory.org/dorothy-kilgallen-in-words.html )
By one account, the presiding Judge Joe B. Brown allowed Ruby and Kilgallen (with Tonahill) to retire to chambers for an interview behind closed doors. Not even Ruby’s guards were present on this occasion. (Lee Israel, Kilgallen, 1979)
Jack Ruby never testified at his own trial. This was integral to defense attorney Marvin Belli’s strategy to portray him as ‘temporarily insane’ on the day of the killing. The strategy failed, however. Ruby was convicted. Even so, discrepancies emerged during the testimony of several witnesses indicating that the official narrative could not possibly be correct. For example, Ruby’s whereabouts at the time of the assassination raised a red flag. One witness testified that at the time Kennedy was shot Ruby was in the offices of the Dallas Morning News, located several blocks from Dealey Plaza. The office windows faced the Plaza with a direct line of sight to the Texas Book Depository. Did Ruby deliberately position himself to watch the assassination? If so, this meant he had prior knowledge. ( https://markshawbooks.com/assets/images/Jack-Ruby-Trial-Transcript-Excerpts-Exposed-2.pdf )
When I checked the layout of downtown Dallas using Google Earth Pro software I was able to measure the distance from the Dallas Morning News building to the location of the “kill zone” on Elm Street. The distance is 1,460 feet.
Other testimony revealed that Ruby was already shadowing (stalking?) Oswald on the evening of November 22 when the authorities presented the accused Oswald in hand-cuffs to the press at City Hall. The police assembly room was packed with reporters and photographers. Ruby was seen with a pen and pad in hand, behaving as if he were a member of the press which he was not.
From the questioning of other witnesses it also emerged that the shadowing continued the next day. On the afternoon of November 23, Ruby was seen on the third floor of City Hall, just outside the homicide department where Oswald was being interrogated. Ruby was in the hallway crowded with press. As before, he was pretending to be a reporter. But Ruby was well known at City Hall and one of the detectives yelled out, ‘Jack, what are you doing here?’ The detective had to shout to be heard because the corridor was crowded and noisy. Ruby gestured and replied, ‘I am helping all of these fellows.’ ( https://markshawbooks.com/assets/images/Jack-Ruby-Trial-Transcript-Excerpts-Exposed-2.pdf )
These discrepancies surely mean that Ruby’s encounter with Oswald did not happen by chance. Nor was the shooting an impulsive act. It was pre-meditated. The shadowing also undermines what Ruby told the Warren Commission, i.e., ‘No one else requested me to do anything. I never spoke to anyone about attempting to do anything. No subversive organization gave me any idea. No underworld persons made any effort to contact me. It all happened that Sunday morning…’
In March 1964, Kilgallen attempted to contact Robert Kennedy through Pierre Salinger who told Kennedy ‘she has some information she wants to turn over to you.’ The meeting never happened, however. During this difficult period RFK was dealing with his own grief and loss, and avoided contact with journalists, specially these investigating the murder of his brother. (David Talbot, Brothers, 2007, p. 262)
Many researchers have dismissed Jack Ruby’s trial as inconsequential, probably because Ruby never testified. But I suspect these skeptics have never studied the transcript of the trial in Dallas. Surely the trial convinced Kilgallen (in my view correctly) that Ruby was the key to figuring out who killed Kennedy.
This probably explains why in August 1964, about a month before the official release of the Warren Commission Report in September, Kilgallen leaked the entire transcript of Ruby’s three hours of testimony to the Commission. Somehow she had obtained a copy, 102 pages in length. Kilgallen serialized the entire transcript in three issues of The New York Journal-American. With the benefit of hindsight, it appears she leaked the transcript to draw attention to the Commission’s inept questioning of Ruby, but also, and more importantly, to shed light on the discrepancies exposed at his Dallas trial. The leak prompted J. Edgar Hoover to order a tap on Kilgallen’s phone. He also put her under surveillance.
Dorothy Kilgallen never revealed the details about her interviews with Jack Ruby. She planned to tell all in a forthcoming book, Murder One, to be published by Random House. Meanwhile, she kept her notes and manuscript on her person at all times. She told friends she was close to discovering who killed Kennedy. But Kilgallen did not live long enough to finish her book. On November 8, 1965, she was found dead in her Manhattan apartment. Her personal hairdresser Marc Sinclaire found the body and immediately concluded she had been murdered. Kilgallen was fully dressed, sitting up in a bed she never used, in a room she never slept in. The reported cause of death was a mix of alcohol and barbiturates, traces of which were found on the rim of a glass. Her manuscript and notes had disappeared.
But the plot against Kennedy was not simply a coup d’tat by a power hungry vice president, nor a move by the Jewish underworld to defend its drug trafficking empire. The stakes were infinitely higher, as I am about to show.
Ben Gurion and JFK
The last name on Madeleine Brown’s list I will discuss is John McCloy. But he is far from the least. When I saw his name I was stunned because of what this means. One need only Google ‘John J. McCloy’ to appreciate who this man was. Over a span of fifty years McCloy advised eight presidents from Franklin D. Roosevelt to Ronald Reagan, including John F. Kennedy.
Allow me to briefly review his storied career. As a young artillery officer, McCloy saw combat briefly during the last months of World War I. After the war he returned to Harvard and completed his law degree. During the 1920s-30s McCloy enjoyed a successful career as a Wall Street attorney. This phase of his life came to an end in 1940, however, when he was recruited by US Secretary of War Henry Stimson. McCloy served under Stimson throughout World War II as a war planner and on intelligence issues. During this period McCloy and James Donovan founded the Office of Strategic Services (OSS), forerunner of the CIA. After the war McCloy became president of the World Bank, then served as the first High Commissioner for Germany. In this capacity he oversaw the creation of the Federal Republic of Germany.
In the 1950s, McCloy served as chairman of Chase Manhattan Bank, was chairman of the Ford Foundation, and also a trustee of the Rockefeller Foundation. For many years, he also served as chairman of the prestigious Council on Foreign Relations. McCloy’s association with the Rockefellers went all the way back to his Harvard days. In short, McCloy’s remarkable resume indicates that by the 1950s he had reached the pinnacle of the US power establishment and was among the select group of men who rule America. He was one of the elite.
McCloy advised president Kennedy on disarmament and arms control issues. But it is of special relevance to this discussion that, in 1963, Kennedy recruited McCloy to be his personal envoy to the Mideast. The objective of his visit: to broker a deal with Israeli Prime Minister David Ben Gurion and arrange for US inspection of Israel’s Dimona nuclear reactor. At the time, only four nations possessed nuclear weapons and Kennedy wanted to keep it that way. Kennedy was alarmed by the growing likelihood that numerous other nations, including Israel, were about to join the ‘nuclear club.’ (Avner Cohen, Israel and the Bomb, 1998, p. 132)
Ben Gurion had promised Kennedy that the Dimona reactor was solely for peaceful purposes. When Kennedy met Shimon Peres at the White House Peres likewise assured him that Israel ‘will not be the first nation in the Middle East to introduce nuclear weapons.’ But what did this mean, really? US intelligence experts knew that the Dimona reactor was of French design and that Peres had personally arranged the technology transfer. Given Peres’ hawkish record Kennedy surely remained skeptical. US nuclear experts told Kennedy that a minimum of two inspections a year were needed to guarantee that the reactor would not be used to produce plutonium for nukes. And Ben Gurion’s offer of (maybe?) one visit a year fell short. (Israel and the Bomb, p. 118)
In mid-June 1963 McCloy arrived in Washington DC for three days of briefings with administration officials, after which he met with Kennedy. At this time JFK signed a strongly worded letter to Ben Gurion that was tantamount to an ultimatum. The showdown with the US that Ben Gurion had sought to avoid appeared imminent. (Israel and the Bomb, p. 156)
Suddenly, however, Ben Gurion resigned, probably a dodge to avoid having to respond to Kennedy’s ultimatum. This put the Dimona issue in limbo. Despite this, McCloy proceeded with the first leg of the planned diplomatic mission: to Egypt where he consulted with Abdul Nasser. The Egyptian president heard McCloy out but not surprisingly was non-committal. However, because of Israel’s failure to respond due to Ben Gurion’s resignation, Kennedy canceled the next leg of McCloy’s trip, to Tel Aviv. McCloy returned to Washington and within weeks the White House abandoned the initiative. The new prime minister Levi Eshkol was insisting that he needed more time to study Kennedy’s proposals.
Meanwhile, Kennedy’s proposed Partial Test Ban was gaining traction. JFK probably judged that the Dimona inspection matter could wait until later and refocused his efforts on this other no less important issue. As we know, Averell Harriman’s July 1963 mission to Moscow was successful. Late in July, the US and Soviets initialed an agreement to ban atmospheric nuclear tests. In September 1963, the US Senate ratified the treaty and within six months more than 100 nations acceded to it or signed it outright. The Partial Test Ban was a major achievement for Kennedy and for the world.
John McCloy shows his colors
Now we come to the dark side. As a Rockefeller man McCloy had many friends in the oil industry, including Clint Murchison. We know that during the summer of 1963 Murchison hosted McCloy at his Mexican hacienda ‘to hunt white wings.’ One can only imagine what these two powerful men discussed over steaks and drinks. (LBJ and the Kennedy Killing, p. 356)
McCloy’s subsequent attendance at the November 21, 1963 meeting at Murchison’s home in Dallas indicates that the “wise man” of Wall Street had decided to betray Kennedy and join the coup against rightful authority. McCloy was anything but a loose cannon. His involvement surely means that other members of the US elite knew about and supported the coming coup. David Rockefeller had already taken the unusual step of publishing a strongly worded letter in Life magazine critical of Kennedy’s economic policies.
It is fair to assume that McCloy briefed Murchison, LBJ and others about Kennedy’s blocked initiative to inspect the Dimona reactor. Although Kennedy later obtained an agreement from prime minister Eshkol for US inspections, his successor did not share Kennedy’s deep commitment to non-proliferation. LBJ was more than willing to look the other way.
There were inspections, yes, but not two a year. The minimum requirement had been abandoned. We also know that the Israelis fooled the US inspectors by installing a dummy control room complete with fake dials and phony data.
The US scientists thought the reactor was producing electricity when, in reality, it was geared up to maximize production of plutonium. Even as the inspectors conducted their walk-through the reactor was busily producing plutonium for bombs. The Israelis also deceived the inspectors another way, by bricking over the elevator doors to conceal the shafts to the clandestine separation plant six floors below ground. The fact they got away with all of this seems to have further emboldened them. On the occasion of the 1968 inspection, the Israelis became belligerent, harassing the US inspectors so openly and aggressively that the scientists terminated the visit. It was the last US inspection. Why bother anyway? US officials must have realized it was all a charade. (Mark H. Gaffney, Dimona: The Third Temple, 1989, p. 69)
On December 6, 1963, scarcely two weeks after Kennedy’s murder in Dallas, Johnson awarded John McCloy the Presidential Medal of Freedom for unspecified services to the country. A few days later, Johnson also picked McCloy to serve on the Warren Commission. In my opinion, these very public back-to-back gestures by Johnson were a signal to the US elite that the coup d’tat had been completed successfully. As we know, McCloy was a diligent participant in the Warren Commission ‘investigation’ and helped to promote the lone gunman narrative. ’Orwellian’ is the only word fit to describe this dark chapter in US history.
Today, there can be no doubt about McCloy’s views on US foreign policy. The record is clear. While at the World Bank McCloy cooperated with the International Monetary Fund (IMF) to make aid to third world countries conditional on austerity measures to keep them dependent on the West and prevent them from developing their own economies. While at the Ford Foundation McCloy arranged for that supposed philanthropic institution to secretly funnel CIA monies for covert operations. In March 1964, McCloy helped orchestrate the CIA coup that overthrew the popularly elected and non-communist president of Brazil, Joao Goulart. To sum up, McCloy was a neo-colonialist and no less of a scoundrel than Lyndon Johnson. (Donald Gibson, Battling Wall Street, 1994, p. 71-72, 79; also see William Blum, Killing Hope, 1995, p.163 – 169)
Finally, I need to add a clarification. Although Richard M. Nixon was also on Brown’s list, Republican political operative and author Roger Stone knew Nixon personally and interviewed him. Stone says Nixon left the party at Murchison’s long before Johnson arrived, and so, was not a part of the plot to kill Kennedy. In light of this, I have taken the liberty of dropping Nixon’s name from Brown’s list. Otherwise, Stone reached the same conclusion as Tague about who killed JFK. No doubt, Nixon, a savvy politician, eventually figured out on his own what had happened and who was responsible. (The Man Who Killed Kennedy, p. 229)
Based on my research, I suspect Madeleine Brown may also have been mistaken about one other name, Clint Peoples. The issue needs more vetting.
In a subsequent article I will show that Lyndon Johnson was a staunch Zionist.
Mark H. Gaffney is the author of Dimona: The Third Temple (1989), Gnostic Secrets of the Naassenes (2004), The 9/11 Mystery Plane and the Vanishing of America (2008), Black 9/11 (2nd ed, 2016), and his latest, Deep History and the Ages of Man (2022). Mark can be reached for comment at [email protected]
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Now we know why a country needs Stalin or Mao.
Only relentless pursuit and elimination of the organized high -crime syndicate can usher into honest just and stable future .
But kiling syndicate means sometime killing thousands .
I still would like to know how they got Ruby to do it. Threats? It was a suicide mission.
Indeed.
Deciphering the dark fairy tale that is the standard explanation of President Kennedy’s murder, without the Zionist component, is somewhat like doing math without the number zero. You will never get the correct answer.
Lyndon Johnson was certainly one of the most evil, disgusting human beings in American politics. Maybe in American society generally.
That LBJ was a Zionist shouldn’t be too surprising. After all, LBJ was the first Jewish President.
JFK a Cold Warrior War Hawk War Criminal….
JFK responsible for bringing Barack Obama sr to America…The rest is History…
JFK and RFK forced integration on the South….
If JFK were alive today…he would enthusiastically support the slaughter of Russian Slavic Infants in Donbas….
The 1965 Immigration Reform Act was reprobate Teddy’s monument of permanent demographic MASS MURDER to his reprobate brother JFK….
Lee Harvey did us a favor….
The Palestinian did us a favor…..
Whatever did you glue your JFK pinup boy poster on to your bedroom wall with?…With your vital fluids?…Yuk…..
Silly stuff
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/us-amb-to-israel-attacks-smotrich:-throw-him-off-the-plane
The bad guys won world war 2. That’s the reason for everything else since 1945.
Much of this is already known to many UR commenters, but the details about John J McCloy are new to me. Thanks for the information.
All you need to know about JFK is that after all the hard work by all the White men to get our space program up and running, he wanted the first American to walk on the moon to be an orc. The ultimate race traitor. The only thing he was good for was skirt chasing.
“The last few years have been a painful time for those of us old enough to remember the 1960s. Over my lifetime I watched my country decline by every measure of greatness. It’s been excruciating, slow and nearly imperceptible from day to day…”
I was a 15 year old in 1963. …Born in 1948, the atmosphere was redolent with the perfumed air — to cover the stench — of the Allies destruction of those evil enemies the Japanese and the Germans. During the war years these enemies were know as Japs and Krauts and while these appellations gradually diminished they were still portrayed as such in certain DC comic books.
GI Joe, a comic book hero — usually depicted with an unshaven jaw clenching a half smoked cigarette and a chattering machine gun, spewing spent cartridges into the air while the enemies bodies flew in all directions — epitomized the urgent requirement to stand up to evil. And father figure Walter Cronkite narrating TVs Twentieth Century amplified the message citing triumph and sacrifice while recounting the various battles fought for freedom.
As a young boy I lived in England. Although Jerry aimed to destroy the London docks in the east side of London, enough bombs fell in the neighbourhood where I lived to leave gaping holes where houses once stood. I asked my Grandmother and mother what happened? Their answer “It was the war dear,”no doubt made the prospects of a nuclear war real for me in a way it didn’t seem real to my friends or the teachers here in the New World.
My father read the NY Times in those days. In it were depictions of the effects of a nuclear bomb if one was dropped on New York City. School suddenly seemed rather insignificant and unimportant to me.
I wanted to know “What caused the madness which existed long before I was born, and was continuing in 1963?”
Kennedy was a WWII hero! I was shocked. In fact I stayed home and watched subsequent events on TV, just as I had stayed home to watch Russian ships turning back from Cuba a few months before. I remember the air raid siren outside in front of the school squatting ominously on top of a steel pole.
The 1950 and early 1960s were not as they seemed — or were made to seem. There was always an undercurrent of violence. Unions turned out to be run by gangsters. The music business was exposed — payola was what bribing the stations was called. Pay to play! The military industrial complex had ominous undertones suggesting “payola” played a role there. Even then, it was clear something about the world was not as depicted on Disneyland.
Over the years I read voraciously. Everything I could get my hands on. My father took me to the library from an early age. I was considered precocious. And of course not a very good student. I argued! Or did not attend. And then I was old enough to spend the Day in the Library.
By the time the Internet emerged I had discovered that much of what was being gradually revealed as unlikely to be true and promulgated by tin hat wearing conspiracy mongering degenerates was in fact verifiably true. …And exactly as being portrayed.
As a precocious and omnivorous reader of biographies, histories, economics, politics, etc., and periodicals, popular magazines, and business magazines — I discovered nothing was written free of the writers agendas, public and private. Often things written, said in public, said when interviewed, broadcast or quoted as saying was contradicted, or revealed by a slip of the tongue, as a lie or an intentional misdirection. One comes across instances of people claiming to have been somewhere or done something when they were elsewhere.
Obviously I was not the only person paying attention when they were reading. Still today though politicians lie even when caught on camera saying something which they later deny.
Todays events are mirrors of the past. There is nothing new under the sun. We are born at the bottom of a well of ignorance. There is no decade anywhere where men and women behave the way children perceive the world or an encouraged to see the world. Our schools are the ultimate brainwashing institutions. Waking up is painful, distressing, and disillusioning. Still although the truth hurts it most certainly encourages one to reject knee jerk reactions and verify the truth for oneself.
You’ve got to be kidding, murder tens of millions of innocents in order to combat organized crime? And the result-even more massive state directed organized crime.
In Gaffney’s fantasy world, crafty Izzies arrange an intricate plot (in fact several alternate plots.) They get the commanding heights of the economy on board in a big drunk glitzy party. They telegraph their intentions with wanted posters. They shoot JFK and immediately turn off law enforcement investigation at all levels, from Air Force One down to the customs gumshoes at the airport. They put an Oswald double on a CIA plane. They follow CIA’s uniform template for coups with such perfect fidelity that JFK’s murder is subsequently taught to US special forces as a classic case study.
And through it all CIA counterintelligence sits there pulling their dicks. Cause they didn’t notice. Or something.
Or well maybe they did notice, because they photographed Ed Lansdale with the tramps, clearly signaling their control to the world outside. They presided over the bullshit whitewash commission. But, uh, um, that’s because the Izzies control them. With their superhuman wheedling & cajoling skills. And stuff.
Gaffney’s fantasy world depends on CRIMESTOP-level cognitive repression of the obvious and undeniable fact of CIA impunity. CIA had a dozen get-out-of-jail-free cards in law, secret decree, judicial precedent, and sub rosa MOUs. That arbitrary power means CIA is the command structure of the US government. You can’t shoot a head of state and impose universal public acquiescence unless you have impunity in municipal law. CIA has it. Izzies don’t.
I know it’s humiliating to admit that you grew up in a criminal totalitarian state and all the time you actually thought you lived in a democracy, and you voted and wrote school essays about democracy and republics and freedom and shit like that. That you were a dupe, a chump, a helplessly obtuse stooge. But it’s time to stop pretending you’re a moron. The whole world knows what’s what, and they’re laughing at you.
Also on video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFvNGb7bk30
Without a doubt the motives of both the Jews and LBJ to murder JFK are compelling and better than any other. Nonetheless motive is not sufficient to conclude murder even circumstantially.
The Jews controlled the US financial system and the money supply with the private “Federal” Reserve system and they were well placed throughout US Gov’t bureaucracy. As a result JFK could easily have been obstructed by the Jews through their control of most of theExecutive Branch Agencies. It’s likely he was obstructed. They didn’t directly control JFK but neither did they control Nixon, Carter or Trump. They easily moved Nixon, Carter and Trump out of the Presidential office without assassinating them. Why did the Jews need to kill JFK? And where is the evidence at the crime scene in Deally Plaza? So far noticeably absent.
Didn’t the Jewish mob control J. Edgar Hoover with blackmail over his homosexuality? JFK was equally vulnerable with his extra marital philandering. In the the 1960s before the sexual revolution and Roe v. Wade photos of President JFK playing grab ass with Marilyn Monroe and other women would have been the end of the “Catholic” President. Furthermore Israel had no intention of abandoning its Dimona program to create nuclear weapons. They could easily have delayed and prevaricated until JFK was pushed out of office. Congress had the power of the purse strings and not JFK. It is highly unlikely that Congress would ever have cut aid to Israel—JFK or no JFK.
Motive is necessary but certainly not sufficient to prove JFK was assassinated by the Jews or their proxies. Again where is the evidence at Deally Plaza? Other than Oswald where were the other purported shooter(s). Ballistics eliminates alot of possibilities. It’s never been clear that ballistics ever pointed to the grassy knoll nor was there photographic or eyewitness evidence of a long gun on the greassy knoll. The CBS news re-enactment of the Deally Plaza shooting with several volunteer marksmen proved that a shooter, using the same 6.8 mm Carcano bolt action rifle, could from a position similar to the 6th floor book depository could fire 3 rounds in under 6 seconds and hit a JFK sized target at least twice while in a moving.
The problem is that the ballistics evidence from JFK’s autopsy and the Zapruder Film doesn’t confirm more than one hit from Oswald’s 6th floor perch. There was at least one other shot from a frangible round that hit JFK in the head from a different location. Where was that second shooter, who was that shooter, what was the caliber and why was the shooter there? Mostly the assassination theorists make no effort whatsoever to answer believing wrongly that motive carries the day.
It has largely been concluded that Oswald was loner with a poor home life who failed at nearly everything he tried. He was an unstable screw up. When he first attempted to defect to Russian the US Embassy talked him out of renouncing his citizenship and the Russians initially refused. It wasn’t until after he attempted suicide in a local Russian hotel that the Russians decided to let him in to avoid and international incident. A few months before the JFK assassination Oswald failed in an attempt to assassination retired Col. Edwin Walker. From his attempt to defect to Russian until he squeezed his trigger twice (not three times) in the Dallas Book Depository he was looking to do some great but terrible thing. His protestations after his capture that he was “set up” is too self serving for my tastes. Neither the Jews nor LBJ would have been stupid enough to hire Oswald to clean a latrine let alone pull off the assassination of a President. However once JFK was dead ALL of his enemies had every motivation to stop the trail with Oswald.
Then we move to JFK’s intentional decisions that favored an assassination success He chose to ride in an open top limo and refused to let Secret Service Agents stand on his rear bumper which was their routine. Then there was the fact that most of the Secret Service detail spent the night and most of the early morning hours before the Deally Plaza drive carousing in local bars. Instead they could have spent the time with building managers closing access to windows facing the plaza. As far as I know none of them lost their jobs.
As far as I know only one firearms expert, Howard Donahue, conducted a thorough 25 year long ballistics investigation at Deally Plaza using photos, videos taken, witness reports and autopsy reports. He easily dispelled and explained the ridiculous “magic” bullet theory. He participated in the CBS News re-enactment as a volunteer marksman. He is the only one to point out with photographic evidence than another long gun was in the hands of person—-in plain sight—in a position consistent with the autopsy results. His investigation was published in the Baltimore Sunday Magazine in the 1970s. It wasn’t condemned or refuted—-it was ignored because it didn’t comport with all the conspiracy theories. And if it was true the fed gov’t had an equally good reason to hope it went away.
A partial chronicle of Howard Donahue’s ballistic investigation at Deally Plaza can usually be found on one of the streaming services: “JFK: The Smoking Gun.” A more complete book is still available from Amazon: “Mortal Error: The Shot That Killed JFK” by Bonar Menninger published in 2013.
So, Woodrow Wilson wasn’t run by Izzies, nor were Rosenfeld and “Ike the Kike”? The Izzies have been running the US for well over a century, and have leveraged that into bullying more countries to become subservient.
The coverup of Israel’s murder of 34 US sailors alone squares with your assessment. Then we can move from there to the Beirut barracks attack and 9-11-2001. Ever read Marine commandant General Robert H. Barrow’s “Open Letter To Caspar Weinberger”? Here it is. Few have even heard about this –
https://www.wrmea.org/1983-april-4/letter-from-marine-commandant-barrow-to-defense-secretary-weinberger.html
Good question–and one that has interested me for a while.
As best I can figure out Ruby was assured by his handlers that he would be a sympathetic figure and that the Mob could “fix” the jury if needed.
Jury tampering was a classic Mob tactic back in those days–and was often successful.
Fantastic write-up. Thanks!
“The story is so tangled it resembles a trip down Alice’s rabbit hole or through the looking glass. (‘A Global Bank Tangle and its Lost Millions’)”
“A Global Bank Tangle And Its Lost Millions”
By Clyde H. Farnsworth
Special to The New York Times
April 9, 1975
Thanks Ulf for providing the link to that letter. I hadn’t heard of it either.
I am not .We knwo how many US killed .
Repeating this comment since for some reason it didn’t post as a reply to your comment –
NP. There’s actually a lot more detail to that situation than is registered in that letter, though it is difficult to find even on the internet. A couple examples among numerous ones are the fact that the Israelis were intentionally illuminating marine positions with search lights to create a feeling of vulnerability. There is also an incident where a column of IDF forces attempted to push their way through a Marine road block and there was an argument between the IDF commander at the head of the column and a Marine commander wherein that Marine Commander put his service weapon to the IDF commander’s head and told him in no uncertain terms to turn his column around and leave the area. There is also evidence that the Israelis withheld vital information that could have prevented the attack on the Marine barracks in Beirut that led to the deaths of 241 Marines if I have that number correct. Israelis didn’t want us there. Ronald Reagan from what I understand had in reality inserted the Marines there as a blocking force between the Israelis and the refugee camps. And the Israelis worked overtime to get us out of the way. After all that’s what supposed allies do right?
15, sigh. How, Curmudgeon, have Izzies been running the US?
If you were to ask someone, How has CIA been running the US, they would need to support their assertion with specific means, such as The National Security Act, the Central Intelligence Agency Act, NCSID-6, The Intelligence Identities Protection Act, the operational files exemption, the political questions doctrine, the state secrets privilege, the utmost deference doctrine, the deference upon deference doctrine, FASAB Standard 56, NSC 10/2, the National Security Directive of December 19, 1947, the Rogers-Huston memo et seq.
So how have Izzies been running the US?
And how do the Izzies short-circuit the institutions and assemblages that give CIA DO impunity and arbitrary power?
I believe the answer is that the CIA was and is thoroughly penetrated by Israel. We know, for example, that Angleton who ran the Israel desk at the time as well as counterintelligence was a double agent. This may explain the patsy Oswald who was much more of a Naval and FBI asset than a CIA asset. The Zionists somehow piggybacked their JFK assassination plot onto the CIA operation and this thoroughly compromised the CIA’s position. Insofar as I am aware the details of that CIA operation involving JFK have never come to light — but apparently it fell short of an assassination. Only through insider information could the Zionists manage this. They did it again on September 11, 2001 which apparently was a plot within a plot.
Nowadays, our legal system has been fortified for democracy so an LBJ can do his dirty work without fear of prosecution. It’s why almost all of them leave Congress rich.
Maybe the motivation was a past favor due type of thing. Like ‘We did X for you 10 years ago and now it’s time to pay-up’ and he had to comply, no matter what. Or maybe he was just a crazy fucker.
We have some very shrewd wheeler-dealers on capital hill. It’s almost as if they develop a sixth sense about when to buy and when to hold when they enter congress but nobody has ever been able to explain it.
Johnson as VP changed the course of history. If Kennedy had chosen someone else, what would our nation be today? We’ll never know, but it’s an interesting thought.
On a side note, I heard RFK Jr may run for President 2024. He’s got guts!
A lame and obvious attempt at deflection. Your second-t0-the-last paragraph describes the “Izzies” more than the CIA.
They always pull this stuff off with a very corrupted White element.
See Philip Geraldi’s article on Samantha Power, who married into the tribe, and her assignment to spread destabilization in East Europe using same tactics they are using here at home. It’s all connected and seems to have started around the Kennedy years.
Understanding reality…
Thats always made me wonder.
Maybe he already knew he had cancer and he had family, girlfriend that he was assured would be looked after?
A criminal state, sure, but that was playing at games behind behind the scenes. At the level of daily life, everything – – well, almost everything – – was great. Oh, what a time, as they say. I am ancient, like the author, so it is especially painful to endure the affronts, frustrations, compromises, limitations, and humiliations of everyday life. It took thousands of years to get to “Oh what a time,”and now, in the blink of an eye of two generations, it is gone. I believe that if JFK had not been killed, it is extremely likely that the tragic unraveling would not have occurred.
Why will NO one ever say the name- JOHN MCCONE? He was the CIA Director 61-65. He married into PACCAR billionaire fortune in Seattle. Everytime you see a Peterbilt, Kenworth, you’re seeing the $$ behind a key player in JFK assasination.
Thanks much for the fine remembrance of the heroic Dorothy Kilgallen.
Shortly after her death a gossip columnist — of all people — who wisely stayed anonymous, gave the details of how Dorothy was killed. She was an “over-thinker” who needed sleeping pills after a busy day at work.
She used nembutals — the same pills Marilyn Monroe used — and had them delivered to her hotel room. The CIA knew of the prescription and pulled a switch. Kilgallen’s dose was an ordinary amount to make her drowsy. Her pills were switched by the agency, which looked the same but they were a hundred times the potency of her regular supply. Even one of the CIA-doctored pills was fatal.
Her room was cleaned and in the morning no evidence of her doctored drug supply was found. And of course none of her work on Ruby was ever found either.
You have written a valediction for many.
He ran a strip club so was probably indebted to the mafia, operating under license as it were. So they would have had some leverage over him.
You have to look at the overall US political organization to get a motive.
First, the New Deal ended Anglo-Saxon dominance of the US Federal Government, which had been severely weakened under President Wilson. The New Deal also ran WW II, and found that FDR’s attempt to save the New Deal by fomenting WW II had (quite unintentionally) left the New Deal in charge of almost all the industrial world.
But the New deal was a coalition of ethnic groups: Jews, Italians, Polish, Irish, various smaller groups. The groups didn’t really mix, had not more cohesion than pellets in a shotgun blast. “In the end, there can be only one.”
Jewish ethnicity had been highly influential, but the Irish politicians had been running the US Democratic Party coalition since (at a guess) the end of Reconstruction. Kennedy was a high water mark for the Irish politicians, and (unusually) had one competent family member that he could trust: RFK.
Together they did severe damage to the Jewish coalition. As Gaffney pointed out, JFK tried to at least limit Israel’s influence over the US, and RFK convicted many Jewish racketeers (including the one I briefly worked for). Further, JFK had somehow managed to get good press. Perhaps the Irish ethnicity would continue to head the US Federal government.
And there was a way out. The New Deal had never been about the US, it was always about the big city professional politicians who “saw their opportunities and took them”. The US small town public was fed comforting lies by the press, and discounted the influence of large city politicians, which gave the Democrats a free hand as long as they “campaigned conservative and governed liberal”. So the 1950s had a veneer of stability and continuity, but only a veneer. False issues abounded: JFK (son of a bootlegger and on pain pills much of the time) was honestly criticized as a Catholic who would be unduly influenced by the Pope, silly as that now sounds and dead as the Protestant/Catholic war really was by the early 1960s.
Then, suddenly, JFK was dead. Then RFK. LBJ passed the Civil Rights Act, which made Irish (but not Jews) white and therefore an oppressive ethnicity along with all other whites. He also passed the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965, which ensured that the whites (including Irish) would become a minority in the US. Suddenly, the Irish were an oppressive group in a dwindling white majority. At about the same time we got the (Jewish red diaper) Counterculture and a broken military (I was in that fiasco) that and a lost Vietnam War. Irish politicians were identified with a South Boston (“Southie”) mob resisting the same Integration program that the South had been pilloried for resisting (and that subsequently destroyed urban schools). That was the end of the Irish politicians.
And the US had a stable Jewish coalition dominance that lasted until Obama’s second term. “It was done by a job, and a good job too.” (Gilbert & Sullivan, “Trial by Jury”).
How’s that for a motive for JFK’s assassination?
Article on ‘Our First Jewish President Lyndon Johnson’, still accessible via the Wayback Machine
https://web.archive.org/web/20180812064546/http://www.5tjt.com/our-first-jewish-president-lyndon-johnson-an-update/
Photo of young LBJ:
Boomer fantasy.
Civil Rights and the 1965 Immigration Act – both of which JFK would have been 100% behind – wrecked America.
I agree with Patton : the wrong ones won WWII. One must say the defeat of 1945. My difference with Patton, though, is that among the three, America was the worst : USSR should have stayed allied with Hitler and both super-powers should have joined to destroy the USA and the UK and prohibit the use of the French and English languages forever together with the whole humanistic literature written in one or the other. USSR was quite bad under Stalin but not worse than India under UK. Actually Stalin just wanted to modernize Russia like UK did with India.
Where did you get this info? I have read a few JFK biographies and never come across this info.
Wasn’t Wolfsohn the first?
As I mentioned here, the ARRB uncovered information indicating a KGB investigation also concluded LBJ was behind the assassination — after the fall of the USSR, some of the Soviet era archives were released, e.g. they finally admitted they were behind the Katyn killings — so it would be interesting to see the complete KGB file on the JFK assassination.
According to Ostrovsky, it is Mossad that uses the JFK assassination as an object lesson. Maybe that’s where you read it or maybe you just outed yourself as an Issie disinformation agent.
I agree — there are a number of reasons for the nostalgic romanticization of JFK and his presidency (‘Camelot’), but it is true that he was fully behind a ‘progressive’ domestic agenda, and no doubt would have supported the disastrous legislation you mention.
Still the remark about ‘painfully watching my country decline by every measure of greatness over my lifetime’ will resonate with many, and perhaps can be allowed to stand despite your comment.
Mark, I would go much further than that.
The CIA/Mossad/Britain’s MI6 are (and have been since Day One), wholly controlled subsidiaries of ZOG.
So, to the extent that the CIA and James Angleton was pivotal in the JFK coup d’etat, they were acting under instruction from the Zionist Usury Banking Cartel (aka ZOG) who ordered the hit on JFK, RFK, JFK Jr, the 9/11 False Flag, orchestrated the Anthropogenic Global Warming hoax, the Covid Psyop, the Ukraine proxy war and more.
Also Mark, in relation to the comments you made in your article about LBJ orchestrating the JFK hit (or words to that effect), certainly as the POTUS, LBJ played the lead role in the cover up of the crime and did what needed to be done in the aftermath to deflect attention away from the actual Zio perpetrators.
But let’s get things in some perspective. LBJ, and ALL USG politicians/bureaucrats/Intel agency heads etc, in the post JFK era, are just BIT PLAYERS.
They are no more than HIRED HANDS reading from a Zio dictated script.
ZOG is responsible for and orders which egregious crimes are to be perpetrated.
NO SINGLE INDIVIDUAL on the planet has 1/1000th the financial and political clout/control of the judiciary/control of the entirety of the U.S Congress/western media control, that ZOG possesses.
It is no coincidence that America’s Golden Age came to an end in the early 1960’s. America has been under a very real Curse since November 22, 1963. Our foreign policy towards the Middle East did a 180 degree turn for the worst beginning with LBJ. Every President since the JFK assassination has been a fake President and Usurper. The Curse will begin to be reversed for America when the truth about the JFK assassination is unsealed by the Government and any remaining accomplices brought to Justice. I recall that neither Trump or Biden had the guts to fully unseal the JFK assassination records when they came up for review in 2017 and 2021, respectively. And, so, the Curse will continue…
The Old Republic died with Kennedy but the Kennedy Legacy lives on in the dark twilight of dispossession.
twenty-five individuals who stayed for the subsequent meeting
A conspiracy planned by 25 people, with ample witnesses as to who they were?
Phooey.
LT. COLUMBO: “On October 16 1963 (38 days before JFK was killed) Lee Harvey Oswald was hired to work at the Texas School Book Depository. Oswald already had his rifle… how did Oswald (or anybody else) know that far in advance that the JFK motorcade would pass so near the TSBD on the route it took? You see that got me thinking Oswald was clairvoyant and had the ability to look into the future. My wife though has another theory about a bunch of murderous conspirators that will never be caught or prosecuted. All these details keep bothering me.”
There hasn’t been America the country in last 70 years. Only America the empire. The prosperity was based on exploitation of others.
Unfortunately for you, your answer—to a question I didn’t ask—was conceded by me in the opening sentence of (my) Comment #14. Let’s look:
I go on to point out in Comment #14 that the Jews (or their proxies) apparently had leashes on any number of Congressmen, Senators and Executive Agency Branch leaders via a variety of means which meant they didn’t have to be killed. For example, the speculation that J. Edgar Hoover was being blackmailed into obedience by Lansky over his alleged homosexual escapades more than passes the plausibility threshold. Furthermore they handily swept Nixon and Trump out of office. The sexual escapades of the “Catholic” President JFK were more than enough to deep six JFK—either into submission or quickly out of office.
So the ACTUAL questions I asked were:
1. Why did the Jews need to kill JFK to maintain the status quo over the long run?
2. Where is the evidence at Deally Plaza (that is, the crime scene) that the Jews killed JFK?
And before you run down another blind alley where I didn’t tread. . .no one—including me—denies a cover-up of what actually happened in Deally Plaza. That those with motives to kill JFK (and the list is apparently long) denied, prevaricated and obfuscated the truth of the events is undeniable. Try again?
The addiction of so many on this blog to the narrative that all things evil are Zionist or Jewish is crazy. All the despicable things in this country involved many more gentiles than Jews.
You sound like nothing more than the standard product of Deep State propaganda.
Ted Kennedy did what he was told to do, or else. When he got out of line a bit, suddenly there was Chappaquiddik.
While LBJ was a scumbag asshole…he is not Jewish.
freedom-cat wrote: “On a side note, I heard RFK Jr may run for President 2024. He’s got guts!”
Sound principles too, and thanks, freedom-cat.
Nonetheless, as presidential campaigns slog ahead, contributions play a major role, and the many powerful ZUS lobbies can sink huge amounts of money into defeating an RFK, Jr.’s presidential run.
And like Senator Rand Paul (Ky) a choreographed visit to Jerusalem’s Wailing Wall becomes necessary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFvNGb7bk30
Jacob Leon Rubenstein killed Lee Harvey Oswald because….
A) He was an emotional patriot basket case and low level gangster who loved the Kennedys
B) He was on a drug (phenmetrazine) and had nothing better to do
C) Thought it would increase FBI and Yiddish customer visits to his strip club
D) Oswald owed him money and he knew that he would never get paid back
E) It is what normal people do while hanging out at the Dallas police station while waiting for a prisoner transfer
As a card carrying member of the small hats, I’d expect no less from you Mr Unrealistic.
All the most egregious crimes of the last century and more have Zio fingerprints all over them.
Telling the truth is never crazy. Trying to deflect attention away from your Talmudic kinfolk is what you do best.
You just can’t help yourself, can you ? You always have to stick up for the tribe.
It’s just a reflexive response from you. No doubt you would’ve been in the corner of that child rapist and murderer Leo Frank just over a century ago.
As for LBJ’s Jewishness (which you deny in your comment # 56), that is not speculation. It is 100% confirmed through the matriarchal line.
We can’t help it that you’re too lazy to research it and confirm it for yourself. (It has been covered extensively here in UR if you’d care to go through the archives on LBJ related articles).
Because JFK promoted him to replace Allen Dulles, who JFK fired, Dulles had the impetus and hatred of JFK, and I would say he was the instigator of the assassination.
And yet: Lyndon B. Johnson School of Public Affairs.
https://lbj.utexas.edu/
University of Texas at Austin.
Tsk, tsk. Either/or, digital thinking, categorical pigeon holes for everything. This philosophical framework has killed the West, due to overuse. Like too much vitamin A. Became poisonous.
Most likely Kennedy was killed with the connivance of Johnson WITH that of the CIA, ZOG, and what is known as the Deep State, many of whom have dual Israeli/US citizenship.
Jewish fascism on the march in the US and Israel:
https://www.voltairenet.org/article218957.html
The Zionist-Nazi putsch and Nazification of Ukraine are the natural outgrowths of the “theological theory of the “chosen people.”
The Straussians (neo-talmudists): https://www.voltairenet.org/article217976.html
Like cancerous growth on the body of western civilization, the neo-talmudists will not stop the ongoing Jewish Fascism on the march until they are either eradicated or incapacitated.
The author skims over the letter that JFK wrote to Ben Gurion stating that relations with Israel would suffer greatly if they did not stop building a nuclear weapon and allow biannual inspections. Ben Gurion did resign but JFK sent a similar letter to his replacement. JFK was murdered about 5 months later.
Laurent Guyénot and Michael Collins Piper books provide a better explanation of how Israel was in the center of the murder of JFK and undoubtedly also RFK.
No doubt the CIA was heavily involved especially CIA James Angleton who was a favorite of the Israelis and had three memorials built in Israel for his service to the country. I’m not aware of any built in the U.S. to honor his service.
It was well known that Mathilde Krim, an activist Zionist, who was married to the Jewish Arthur B. Krim, President of United Artists Corp., was a mistress of LBJ. Or should I say “handler”.
Jerusalem Post carried a story headlined:
“Vanunu: Israel behind JFK Assassination.” The newspaper reported that famed Jewish-born nuclear physicist, Dr. Mordechai Vanunu, recently released after spending 18 years in prison for exposing Israel’s covert atomic weapons program—had charged that supporters of Israel’s drive for nuclear weapons were involved in the JFK assassination precisely because of JFK’s interference with their ambitions.
Israel was not going to allow anyone to interfere with their nuclear program and after JFK’s murder the Dimona facility was never mentioned again and offensive weapons and aid increased dramatically under LBJ.
LBJ stayed on long enough to influence both coverups of the JFK and RFK investigations and coverup the premeditated Israeli attack on the USS Liberty. Israel now has only contempt for the U.S. and the western world which is reflected in comments like former Prime Minister Ariel Sharon:
“Israel may have the right to put others on trial, but certainly no one has the right to put the Jewish people and the State of Israel on trial.”
I think you meant Melvin Belli.
A total of 241 US service personnel were, indeed, killed. 220 were Marines and 21 were other service personnel.
https://www.cnn.com/2013/06/13/world/meast/beirut-marine-barracks-bombing-fast-facts/index.html
Lord knows you will be afforded the opportunity to thank them yourself,
The syndicate is controlled by Zionist Jews. AKA the Deep State.
http://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/2015/07/28/how-the-ashkenazi-jews-conquered-the-west/
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/ed-dwight-first-african-american-space-until-wasnt-180974215/
That so-called “Zionist coup” didn’t change much about the US as the leader of the terrorist USEUNATO conglomerate it already was in 1963. Kennedy’s “alliance for progre$$” gave the CIA ample room and wherewithal to conslidate continental drug-trafficking and money laundering business in the Americas. As Monroe had announced was the plan. Wasn’t Stalin even quicker than Truman to greet the fabrication of the Rothschild neocolony in Palestine at the UN in 1948?
To still be thinking that selected CEOs of any of the US-led terrorist regimes was gonna be any meaningful change, one must be developing some sort of severe retardation from taking the COVID-19 so-called “vaccines” the UNSC permanent members rolled out in coordination for the plandemic.
I doubt the Star-Telegram was the largest circulation paper in Texas at the time.
One other thing which is very telling about Johnson’s possible role in the assassination. Under Johnson, the USS Liberty was attacked by Israeli fighter pilots. Rescue was initially sent out and called back by the White House. The matter was kept secret for many years. Sounds like to me that the Israelis had something on Johnson that he would allow his own citizens to be attacked by another country – Israel, with whole impunity. As friendly as our government is with the State of Israel, would any other President go so far in protecting Israel? I tend to doubt it.
The USSR was not an “ally” with Hitler. They had a non-aggression pact. He could not make such a repugnant government an “ally”. We did, however. He was our “Uncle Joe”, and this was AFTER he killed millions of Ukrainians, not to speak of the other millions killed or sent to camps never to be seen or heard from again.
Zapruda and the umbrella man for a start.
This essay should eliminate the typical naively ignorant American mindset of those whose sense of American history is from their public school experience…..just like mine was until about 20 years ago.
But will they read it? The best way to stay ignorant is to…..🙈🙉🙊
For anyone interested in digging deeper along with me…….for the rest of our days – http://www.crushlimbraw.com – I promise you nothing but disappointing news to your grand delusions! But the story ends well….most likely long after you and I both are gone.
Dear MARK H. GAFFNEY, you have written an excellent article on who really murdered JFK.
Under the heading—facts are stubborn things:
Lee Harvey Oswald could not have killed JFK—Oswald was given a “gunshot residue test” on the day JFK was assassinated—and Oswald he came up clean because he never fired a gun on that day. This makes the Warren Commission Report on JFK’s assassination a lying cover up.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr recently announced he is considering running of the US Presidency in 2024. After the assassinations of JFK, RFK, and I believe John F. Kennedy Jr, US elites will never allow Robert F. Kennedy Jr to live to become a US President. Why? Because the first thing Robert F. Kennedy Jr will do as US President is expose who really murdered JFK and RFK.
This Yankee obsession with J.F.K. is so strange. As if he hadn’t been assassinated he would have done great things, like stopping the operations largely run on materials stolen by Jews in the U.S.A. for Dimona, who generally had dual loyalty. Actually, there may be something real in that aspect.
Stop the war in Vietnam? A joke, he stepped it up.
A big time philanderer, sure. Anyway, I’m bored so will read this umpteemth article about how J.F.K. was a wonderful person who could have been the saviour of your nation.
The obsession is amusing.
I will not enter a detailed discussion of who killed JFK – for the 83,000th time on this web site – alone.
Who Did it?
[MOSSAD & their junior partners, CIO, MI6. Serving the planet’s leading Money Changing Oligarchs.]
Who continues in 2023, to cover up the truth about the Coup D’état of 11/22/1963?
[The owned Media]
Now that that is out of the way, I wish to answer your questioning -“If.”
John F. Kennedy believed he had to place on his electoral ticket a leading Southern politician – in order to hold enough of the Southern votes, to defeat Nixon and win the Presidency. Many have written that JFK was quite aware of the danger of placing such a sleazy crook, L B Johnson, – a heart beat from the Presidency. JFK felt he had to take the RISK. JFK’s electoral victory was razor close, vindicating his risky alliance with a well known crook of a politician.
Understand: this was in 1960, when our country still sported the remnants of A Democratic Republic. Kennedy and his top supporters were working a risky strategy in order to obtain access to Executive Power, and guide our country into a better place (at least that was their stated goal).
While in office, President Kennedy, THE SHORT LIST:
1. avoided a Nuclear conflict,
2. Defended the Industrial Sector
3. Made great efforts to slow down a dangerous run-away Inflation.
4. Supported the Legal Equality of all Americans. (was the first
President to do that).
5. Attempted to block the Zionist Oligarchs from obtaining Nuclear
Weapons.
6. Announced plans to withdraw all American troops – from Vietnam.
7. Supposedly had sex with Marilyn Monroe (not important – but I doubt
it).
Gaffney’s “Zionist Coup Against Kennedy” is about right (as we say). The question is: What do we do about it?
Zionists were responsible for killing all 3 Kennedys . The ZUS regime has been under zionist control since 1913 and their creation of their debt machine aka the FED and their debt collection machine aka the IRS 2 of the 10 planks of the communist manifesto.
And we know Trump isn’t either of those strongman but mere a Mussolini, albeit with all the medals and no balls.
Tl;dr
Just sick of the LowLives Murica’s Politicians+Donors have been sleazing into the Whitehouse + Congress.
What I can recall from the “Big Picture Summary” Perspective:
The Masonic-Zionist Hegemon’s Plutarchy, Vassal Oligarchs and Vassal-Mob Ochlarchs have taken over this Masonic Republic over a Century ago.
Through the Rentier-Bankers, Railroad/Oil Barons, Corporate Plunderers – as Oligarchs became Plutarchs, they began to merge with their counterparts across the Atlantic, where the Jewish-Tribal Diaspora were well integrated as their Faction controlled GBR and FRA.
We’re seeing “incidents” like the JFK Assassination occur here and there. IIRC (limited points mentioned), JFK was allegedly:
A) Looking to prosecute LBJ;
B) Working on a Debt-Free Silver-backed Currency (GoldMoney? cited that our U$Ds are the property of the FEDRSV, loaned to the GOVT_USA at 6% annual interest – that’s different from the Debt Created Fractional Reserve “Currency” generated by Bankers. It’s okay to yell/rage. Lincoln was allegedly assassinated for similar projects.);
C) Trying to make Peace with the Soviet Union (SUN in ISO Alpha-3 for the casual reader).
These Rentier-Banker Currency+FractionalReserve Systems need to be revised and reformed; but the Plutarchy+VassalOligarchs are used to Plundering Everybody – including other Empires/Nation-States/Colonies – with Credit Crunches and Wars while riding the Industrial Revolution and advancements in Technology.
There was no “Government or implied Co-Prosperity” with/of/by “We the People” from the Plutarchy+VassalOligarchs’ perspective.
The Plutarchy became a Plutarchy of a Hegemony. Tried to Conquer the World – had their best opportunity to do so after the SUN Collapse+Plunder(mostly by “guess who?”) in the 1990s; but fortunately for Humanity, A) RUS recovered Economically+Politically as their Military+Nukes deterred the Hegemony from breaking RUS up – and B) CHN benefitted and Industrialized+MilitarilyDeveloped rapidly thanks to Foreign Direct Investment / Offshoring Mfg while staving off Western Colonization/Subjugation with their Military+Nukes.
“Guess Whom” were involved in previous Campaigns that challenged/felled Russia and China throughout the 19th-20thCE?
Some of the “Whom” have been “at it” – in one Domineering Scheme or another – for over Hundred of Years (e.g., vs Russia).
The Plutarchy will have to settle with €URope, Americas, PHL/AUS/NZL; but things would seem that they won’t and may eventually get in Wars that massively Backfire.
*****
Tall Fences make for Good Neighbors, Tall Border Walls and Immigration Policies make for Good Nation-States.
“The matter (USS Liberty) was kept secret for many years.”
The facts were made a permanent secret when the sailors were told that discussing the events that occurred that day would result in loss of pension, “or worse.”
McCone was JFK’s man in the CIA.
I have seen no evidence he was “in the loop” at all–if anything it was his job to prevent the CIA veterans from getting together to “do an op” on JFK.
There is evidence McCone did not support the Israeli nuclear weapons program–which meant for the coup plotters (Mossad and Angleton) he was “part of the problem”.
Check out this quote from the Wikipedia article on McCone:
“McCone resigned from his position of DCI in April 1965, believing himself to be unappreciated by President Lyndon B. Johnson, who, he complained, would not read his reports, including on the need for full-fledged inspections of Israeli nuclear facilities.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_A._McCone
November 23, 2019 JFK, MLK, RFK, 50 Years of Suppressed History: New Evidence on Assassination of John F. Kennedy, Martin Luther King and Robert F. Kennedy.Failures to Confront the Unspeakable, and The Way Ahead. Part I
Today November 22, 2019, we commemorate the passing of JFK. November 22, 1963, the assassination of JFK in Dallas, Texas. Fifty-six years ago. January 21, 2019. Martin Luther King Day
https://www.globalresearch.ca/50-years-of-suppressed-history-new-evidence-on-the-assassination-of-john-f-kennedy-martin-luther-king-and-robert-f-kennedy/5329847
September 19th, 2019 RFK JR. NAMES RFK’S KILLER
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Claims to Know Who Really Killed His Father and is Out to Prove It.
Video Link
Nov 23, 2016 53 YEARS AFTER JFK ASSASSINATION CIA ADMITS THIS CONSPIRACY THEORY IS ACTUALLY FACT
Shortly after noon on November 22, 1963, President John F. Kennedy was assassinated as he rode in a motorcade through Dealey Plaza in downtown Dallas, Texas. It’s been 53 years since the assassination. Since that fateful November day, conspiracy theories have abounded. However, when we sift through the disinformation and look at only verifiable facts, we find no need for theories — as the conspiracy was a fact.
http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB493/docs/intell_ebb_026.PDF
[Stop wasting space with those three dots at the end of all your comments or they’ll all get trashed.]
Mr. Gaffney, are you aware that John Kennedy was in cahoots with the Jews in changing the demographics of this country? My comment from another thread:
A quote from the same thread. And that the 1960 election was STOLEN to PUT JFK into office!
All three Kennedy brothers worked on the 1965 Immigration Act. JFK was all for that! LBJ passed it! I consider the Kennedys and Biden to be traitors.
This is just something else to throw into the mix. It is clear that Kennedy got special favors to become president!
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I don’t dispute that the Jewish and LBJ motives are the most compelling and that all the subsequent investigations were a superficial white wash.
The problem, of course, is that the compelling “motive” does NOT map to evidence at Deally Plaza. Who pulled what triggers, with what caliber and from what positions at Deally Plaza consistent with the evidence (including the autopsy evidence)? The last question is the most important.
The volumes of work about the 6 minutes in Deally Plaza illuminate a great deal about the history/relationships of the time and the moral bankruptcy of nearly everyone. However, these works predominantly gloss over the 6 minutes in Deally Plaza. That is, these worthwhile works don’t tell us much, if anything, about who and where the shooters were (other than Oswald). So far only one investigator has actually forwarded a plausible theory supported by the evidence, Howard Donahue as documented in the 2013 book by Bonar Menninger, “Mortal Error: The Shot that Killed JFK.” I think its still available at Amazon but largely ignored. His theory was first put forward in the 1970s but largely ignored.
Yes, but let me ask you something..
How many of those admittedly despicable things would have been carried out by Gentiles, if they knew the truth?
If you would have asked the Gentiles during WWI, ‘We want you crush Germany (and betray her into slavery with lies and treachery), so that we Jews can pressure England to hand over Palestine to us, to use as a haven for international crime and Jewish supremacist cruel genocidal nation-state..
How many Gentiles from France and England and Belgium and North America, would have said, ‘Sure, I’ll kill German and or die for that.
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If you would have asked the men of England and Ireland and North America and France..
‘Would you like to go slaughter Germans in WWII, and hand over half of Europe to Soviet slavery, and the other half over to the tender mercies of the Jewish supremacists who own the Fed and control America’s money supply, so that they can foist ‘diversity and mulitculturalism and transgenderism and anti-white hate on your children and societies? All while forcing those people to fund their demographic replacement, while fighting endless wars for Israel, and paying tribute in untold billions to Israel and assorted rogue regimes all over the planet, that will slaughter off as many Gentiles as possible, while enriching a handful of uber-corrupt Jews and their Gentiles stooges?
How many would say, ‘yea, sure! Sounds good to me’. ‘I’d like to die, and see my sons die, on behalf of the very people who will genocide my grandchildren off the planet, and make them hated second class citizens until then. Why not?’
You see, I suspect that every single Jewish supremacist, now and then, would answer in the affirmative if you asked them if those are the things they want to happen.
But all of those Gentiles you’re talking about Realist, have all been lied to. And if you would have asked them, either then or now, they’d pretty much tell you to pound sand.
How many Gentiles today would be supporting Ukraine, if they knew how corrupt and dishonest Zelinsky’s Ukraine is today?
How many Gentiles know that Russia did not wage an ‘unprovoked’ attack on Ukraine, but had the conflict forced upon them?
How many Gentiles know the truth, eh?
And how many of those Gentiles, if they knew the truth, would continue to support Zelinsky?
I’d say all Jewish supremacist would continue to support Zelinsky, as they mostly know the truth, and still support him.
But the difference, (and it’s a very salient, important and critical difference), is that the J-supremacists know the war on Russia has been orchestrated by treasonous elements in the U.S. State Dept, who put Jewish interests above American interests every time. In fact, couldn’t give a rip about American interests, except to harm them.
But the rub is, very few Gentiles know the truth about any of that, and if they did, not only would most of the Gentiles forced to fight in the World Wars- have refused, if they knew the truth, so too would Gentiles refuse to fight in the Jewish supremacist wars (Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, Ukraine, etc..) of this century.
If a man is lied to, then he isn’t a willing participant in evil. He’s simply been lied to. Like Pat Tillman and most Americans duped by ((the false flag attack)) on 9/11, until Tillman figured out that he was being lied-to, and then stopped supporting the wars.
The question of complicity and support for evil, and “despicable things “, does not impugn a man’s character if he’s acting in good faith, but based on the ubiquitous lies he’s being told from every orifice of the ((utterly corrupt)) government, and Jewish supremacist-owned media.
So while it’s true that Lindsey Graham is as guilty as sin, and even far, far more despicable than even the Jewish supremacists that he takes orders from, the vast majority of South Carolinian’s who ‘support Ukraine, (for instance) are doing so because they think, (have been lied-to), that what they’re supporting is good and noble.
If they knew the truth, (that Ukraine is the aggressor, and war criminal, and ZOG bastion of criminality and corruption and Jewish supremacist terror and belligerence, being used to kill off both Ukrainian and Russian Gentiles, while the Jewish supremacist laugh their collective arses off), then they would simply stop supporting it, because Gentiles by and large, are not murderous, genocidal fiends hell bent on theft, treachery, war crimes, and atrocities.
That’s why they always have to be tricked, and lied into these things.
Whereas for Jewish supremacists, wars and death and genocide and torture and horrors, are their mother’s milk.
Re 12:
RestiveUS, it’s clear you guys believe that, but once again you fail to support this claim of arbitrary Jew power with any institutional arrangements or assemblages that confer impunity on the Izzies. By contrast, CIA’s got shitloads of municipal-law authority to kill you and torture you and get away with it, see 22 above. It’s all illegal but it sits there in black & white begging you to read it. Izzies can get away with crimes IFF they have CIA permission, just like any other cutouts.
Pajna, Ostrovsky is the guy who says “Ha ha, we did that, fuck you!” whenever CIA commits a crime. He’s been doing that routine forever. It’s very effective on naïfs, they shake their fists at capering Zionazis and ignore the command structure of their own government. And yes, everybody agrees the JFK hit is the classic coup.
Safenow, very true & wise. It’s like beltway brat Frank Zappa said, when they’re ready they’ll take away the stage set and show you the brick wall. Lots of people see it but some don’t know what it is yet.
Yes. I posted this comment before I read your rule over at the other thread. I will stop. Thanks for your patience.
“The evidence” was trashed and re-trashed by the Deep State.
Good luck chasing down that rabbit hole.
What we do have is a discussion of logistics from the guy who ran the operation on the ground:
It was a shocker when I realized this had to be true. I agree. One murder led to anther and another. The Zionists understand that no Kennedy can be allowed to reach the White House. Ellsberg pointed out that RFK was slack when it came to security. The Kennedys made the mistake of thinking they were un-touchable. RFK Jr better heed this warning. If he runs he will need an airtight security detail.
Not all things evil are Zionist, Yid.
But all things Zionist, Yid are evil –
thus spake Satan about his spawn.
Mr. Gaffney, I believe your next expose should be The Zionist Coup Against America.
There’s something odd about Biden’s Cabinet, I can’t seem to connect the dots.
Biden’s 25 Cabinet members
8 Blacks – Vice President, Secretary of Defense (see link)
10 Jews – Attorney General, Secretary of State, Secretary of the Treasury, Secretary of Homeland Security, Director of National Intelligence, Chief of Staff (see link)
Of these,
13 are women, 14 if you count Pete Buttigieg
https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/cabinet/
Re: Madeleine Brown’s credibility: I don’t know if being a prostitute diminishes her credibility but being a problem drinker does. I saw an interview with her and she looked like a drinker with the facial expressions, the general mannerisms, and the condition of her skin. Addicts are notorious liars. In AA and NA, there is even a saying about an addict lying whenever his lips are moving.
Your relentless addiction on this blog to control the narrative that all things evil are the fault of we gentiles and that we are crazy is despicable.
Get real.
Tens of millions of innocents murdered is a manufactured consent peddled by the “democratic” West to cover their hundreds of millions if not billions senseless slaughtering around the world from the days of Columbus’ great discovery of the new continents, through two world wars to current war in Ukraine and the coming Armageddon the West is engineering.
Fabricating history for other people based on the Whites’ own image is not going to whitewash what Whites are.
The Empire (USA is the Empire of chaos) lies. It lies about the present, about the past, even about the future. It lies day and night, relentlessly.
Its founding dogmas are based on lie, cheat and steal. Its history is made of false pathos and insincere heroism.
The Empire and its lackeys are where it is now, still filthy rich (although always complaining), because of those hundreds of millions of people all over the world who were robbed and murdered, those who become victims of the very madness of colonialism, of the crusades and the slave trade. Cathedrals and palaces, museums and theaters, train stations – all had been constructed on horrid foundations of bones and blood, and amalgamated by tears. There were so many centuries of plunder that the acts of looting the world for the sole benefit of the few, turned into inseparable part of the ‘Western existence and culture’, something that gets almost never addressed, let alone criticized.
You just spout goofy shit. You have no goddamn validity.
Wow, what a surprise LBJ and everyone else who disagrees with a large part of the UR blog anti-Jewish narrative is a Jew.
Your reply implies that gentiles are too stupid to find the truth. And sadly, that is true of many of them as is amply demonstrated by some bloggers here.
If a man believes everything he is told…he is a fool.
Your pseudonym is apropos…as is mine.
Zapruda’s story is fairly interesting but no one claims he pulled the trigger. Of greater interest is the claim that the Zapruder’s film was edited before it was shown to the public. So it’s possible that Zapruder’s film captured other shooters. At the moment this is a dead end.
As far as I know, today, no one considers Umbrella Man to be a shooter.
With Zion Biden’s cabinet crawling with 10 Jews holding absolute power, I doubt he can stop them from doing whatever they want.
USA is a Zionist occupied satellite state of Israel. Jeffrey Epstein’s Pedo Extortion/Blackmail collection racket was just one of many collecting compromising images on the vast majority of powerful elites.
There’s a reason why whites are being attacked, hated and called domestic terrorists and whites supremacists, and it’s all kosher with the powers that be.
Whites look like Hitler, think like Hitler, therefore they must be destroyed like Hitler and his white German clans.
I think you meant William Donovan, not James.
Other than that, spot on
Thanks, here are some books that I have and recommend, Blood In The Water by Joan Mellon about the JFK assassination and the Israels and ZUS LBJ’s attack on the USS Liberty, also JFK, the CIA and Vietnam by the late Col. L Fletcher Prouty, both can be had on amazon.
Agree about RFK jr, they will kill him if he runs.
Monsieur Gaffney, I see. So CIA whacked JFK because Izzies took it over. You guys always give one (1) mole example, Angleton. So in this highly disciplined hierarchical organization, this lone nut took over CIA and fooled his two echelons of bosses and his crack counterintelligence staff and made them commit treason. Okaay…
Anyway, CIA was out to get JFK, but the Izzies beat them to it and whacked him themselves. Instead of just, uh, I dunno, waiting and letting CIA do it. Yes, we’ve heard this piggyback stuff, it’s Guyenot’s bid for the Darwin Award. Or else him pulling the leg of the leftmost IQ deciles.
So to carry out an apical coup, Izzies just penetrated CIA and took it over. Sure, if I was a Zionazi genocidaire, that’s what I would do, because that’s where the impunity is. Otherwise you might not get away with it. So lemme get this straight, in this Weltanschauung, the problem is not that an institution has the arbitrary life-and-death power of Vlad Tepes – the problem is, the wrong treasonous criminal asshole used it…?
All this illogical contradictory nonsense goes on in some weird bell jar where the consistent, coherent, and complete explanation of Douglass’ JFK and The Unspeakable does not exist, and never needs to be rebutted in any particular. Not Fenton’s Disconnecting the Dots either, since you mention 911 – it wasn’t CIA’s Richard Blee, that was Izzies too.
Is it starting to dawn on you how stupid this story sounds?
A lot to digest in this article. Previously the mafia hit theory made a lot of sense and was in a History channel documentary years ago. The thesis rested on Old Man Kennedy making his fortune running bootleg liquor during Prohibition and this was under license from the mafia which then expected return of favor so they funded and worked for JFK election eg in Chicago with the expectation he would work to enable them to freely operate. But JFK appointed Bobby as AG and he worked against them hence taking JFK out was retribution for double crossing them. Standard mafia protocol.
That was the gist of the theory and it went into detail as to where Ruby fitted into that theory, ans Oswald too. Too long ago now to remember those details and can’t find the documentary on YT.
How can you have a discussion about the “logistics” involved in killing JFK if you haven’t the slightest idea who the shooters were or where they were located in Deally Plaza—–other than Oswald?
The logistics for Oswald are a no-brainer. Oswald was a failure at nearly everything except the $50 purchase-by-mail-from-Sears Roebuck of a 6.8 mm Italian Carcano bolt action rifle which he secreted into the Dallas Book Depository where he worked before the JFK motorcade arrived. By many accounts he fired two shots missing with the first and hitting JFK in the rear at the base of his neck which then hit Gov Connally.
Johnson was a terrible man and an even worse president.
I never said all things evil are the fault of gentiles or that they are crazy. But I have to say you rank right up there as prime evidence.
This article would have been strengthened by even one example of Nazi attack on or sabotage of even one U.S. harbor. There’s a reason for not mentioning one: it never happened. So I guess the Mafia tiger repellent worked, huh? Calling BS on that one. Please to be explaining how the Mafia would protect shipping, won’t you? The Navy certainly did that after enough U.S. merchant vessels were sunk several miles off the East Coast and in the Gulf of Mexico.
Melvin Belli, not “Marvin”. Did the author not see him on Star Trek?
OSS was formed June 13, 1942. James Donovan did not join (in his capacity as an attorney) until 1943. I suspect the author should have said “William Donovan” here.
@Anonymous[179]:
Ask yourself who ran counterintelligence and what country desk he also controlled.
There was something about LBJ’s nose that always struck me as odd.
Every damn time.
Do you actually read what you write or is it written for you?
“ The addiction of so many on this blog to the narrative that all things evil are Zionist or Jewish is crazy. All the despicable things in this country involved many more gentiles than Jews.”
I agree that JFK was not very popular – at least not in the Deep South – I had a friend from Alabama who was in high school in 1963.
When it was announced in his high school that JFK had been killed, he said his classroom erupted in applause and cheering. The Kennedys were totally behind forced integration.
I was in the military then and when I hear that JFK would have prevented a larger war In Viet Nam, I scratch my head because it damned sure appeared to me that the Kennedy Clan hated Diem. And after Diem was killed – the Vietnamese war was America’s tar baby.
Zappa was from Baltimore. Born December 21, 1940. His family moved to California three years before the completion of the first segment of the Baltimore Beltway. The DC Beltway has a similar chronology.
@A. Pagano:
Except teaching himself to speak fluent Russian. Except for that, right?
And getting the State Department to fund a European vacation before he was repatriated. Except for that, right?
British Security Command preceded OSS, 1939, William Donovan, Wall St lawyer just like McCloy. Rockefeller Plaza. Treason by FDR
To Mr Gaffney:
I would like to share two websites that you might find useful.
The first is to James H Fetzer, who holds a PhD degree in analytic Philosophy of Science. He has a brilliant mind and taught at U Minnesota until his retirement. Since that time, he has been very active in publishing books and articles and he has not only had a special interest in JFK, he arranged for a JFK conference (in TX), to which the best JFK researchers attend.
His general website is: https://jameshfetzer.org/
It has lots of good articles plus a search bar that will, inter alia, bring up the entire works of a particular author. If you hit the menu button at top center of home page, a side bar presents an extensive menu from which you can choose various topics. If you click on the JFK link,
https://jameshfetzer.org/john-f-kennedy/
it will bring you to some fascinating articles. I copied the highlights of one for you to see.
James Douglass, JFK AND THE UNSPEAKABLE
Among the vast number of books that have been written about the death of JFK, perhaps none has been as successful at explaining why he was taken out as James Douglass, JFK AND THE UNSPEAKABLE (2008). This superb volume traces JFK’s evolution from a cold warrior to a man of peace in a gripping, effortlessly readable study of admirable scholarship. In my estimation, this is the single best volume to understand why he died and why it matters.
It sounds like it is very germaine to your interests. Another site that you might enjoy, based on certain indications in your paper, is located at:
http://endoftheamericandream.com/
The website is called:
End Of The American Dream: Life As You Have Known It Will Never Be The Same Again
Here are the titles of some articles currently on his home page:
What In The World Has Happened To Our Society?
Have We Reached “Peak Idiocracy” Yet?
Honestly, A Lot Of Really Weird Stuff Is Going On Right Now…
I hope that you will find these two sources informative.
A brief description of the workings of the American “democracy”. My goodness, the communists were amateurs in comparison. There is a positive of these exposures, the so called worldwide club of Washington are shrinking.
They told him the Mac Wallace story of exoneration.
You must have finally seen “Evidence of Revision”, the full original version. It’s been well know LBJ instigated the conspiracy to kill JFK.
I think in the movie it was:”precious bodily fluids…”
I’ll take a Franco or Pinochet.
Thanks very much.
You really need to understand what was happening in the CIA during that period.
JFK had just fired Allen Dulles, had sabotaged the Bay of Pigs operation (yes, the CIA tried to trick him, but it is what it is) and the Cuban rebels who worked for the CIA (and their bosses) were very hostile to JFK.
Howard Hunt specifically names David Atlee Phillips, Cord Meyer, Jr., William Harvey as well as Frank Sturgis as CIA folks involved in the logistics of killing JFK.
That was in addition to Angleton–and those are just the folks publicly named.
It’s always “funny” how the Americans/Westerners know the exact numbers of people “killed” by Stalin, Mao, Lenin, etc, but they have never kept a tally of all the people for example taken as slaved from Africa, all the Indian Natives killed in North, Central and South America, all the natives killed in Africa, Asia, Australia in the last 500+ years of Western colonialism and imperialism.
Gotto be MUCH MUCH more than all the people killed by Stalin/MAo, etc. Probably in the billions.
The Kennedys stole the 1960 election from Nixon. Kennedy was never a legitimate President, not for one second.
Lots of harbor sabotage in WWI before the United States waded in. New York City’s Police Department even started an intelligence unit in response to the chaos.
The dirty brainwashing of Americans by the dishonorable and profiteering Zionist operators: https://jweekly.com/2008/11/28/friend-ally-savior-revealing-lbj-s-jewish-ties/
Here is the real story of a rapist and murderer Leo Frank, a darling of B’nai B’rith International that is currently in bed with Ukrainian Badnerites (self-proclaimed Ukrainian n Nazis). https://www.unz.com/article/the-leo-frank-case-documented-findings/
The shameless and thuggish ADL fights tooth and nail against the factual information that exposes Leo Frank as a pervert, murderer, and deeply dishonest creature:
Lyndon Johnson’s ethnicity made him side with the Jewish murderer Leo Frank. The Jewish tribe protects the worst to preserve its ‘special status.’
It is more probable that Jack Rubinstein was given cancer (by being poisoned with radioactive material) once he got tired from being locked up and directly accused Lyndon Johnson of being responsible for the JFK assassination on TV news footage.
122, Just Visiting. Exactly.
Shitloads of people in CIA wanted to get rid of JFK. CIA was institutionally inimical to JFK’s policy and program. And, as you point out, open source documentation and staff testimony shows CIA was hard at work getting rid of JFK.
So why the fuck is Gaffney going on about Izzies? CIA, they do what they want.
Also, the “La Jolla” racetrack must refer to Del Mar.
What they did to spy on intel around WWII was wiretapping.
They also use entryism, lobbying, money influence, and so on.
It’s not complicated. If Ruby didn’t do as he was told he would take a bullet, or die in some other horrible way. Ruby, like most people, chose to live a bit longer.
In my case, the truth never hurts. It’s when people tell me lies that I get a very uncomfortable feeling. Having said that, this doesn’t mean I didn’t hear you, because I do/did, and I understand where you’re coming from.
JFK himself does not matter.
Had Dick Nixon been president in 1963 and followed the same policy he would have got the same treatment. CIA/Israel was making the big move to rule the West and no president, prime minister or dictator was going to change that.
Whether JFK was a good guy or bad is not relevant. What matters is that home-grown mobsters and foreign nationals can remove a president. The fact people weren’t happy with Kennedy don’t matter because it’s highly likely he would have lost in 1964. That would have hurt Jack more than the bullets in Dealey Plaza did.
The best and continuing proof of mob involvement was the strange story of the Zapruder film. A year ago Jacob Hornberger put out an extraordinary book — An Encounter with Evil: The Abraham Zapruder Story and it’s a masterful look at the most damning part of the JFK killing. Some of the comments at Amazon actually add information because in the old days, photo fraud on that scale was limited to a small number of serious professionals.
People who think JFK had it coming miss the point. In 1963 the USA became a banana republic where rich criminals could remove a president at will. That means they’ll just as easily knock off good judges, senators, people who post at websites they don’t like, the whole shot.
Be careful about giving your approval to things like that. Personally, I’d have truly enjoyed JFK going down in flames during the election of President Barry Goldwater in 1964. Keep in mind what the assassins robbed us out of — it was not a little thing.
Joseph P. Kennedy, the Cursed Peacemaker
Laurent Guyénot • July 10, 2021
https://www.unz.com/article/joseph-p-kennedy-the-cursed-peacemaker/
The Murder of JFK Jr., and his wife Carolyn Bessette and sister-in-law Lauren Bessette on 16 July 1999.
… punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me …
… links the “Kennedy curse” to Joe’s anti-Semitism …
LG :
As we witness in the Podhoretz piece, “A Conversation in Hell”, the vengeful kabbalists would not have let the principal 666m, w & d temporal signature from the birth of Saint Anne Frank go unused. Something big had to be done to mark that occasion. What else but to erase two further generations of the Kennedy bloodline? That, imo, was the event. Clear as day.
The murder of John F Kennedy Jr and the Jewish Holocaust narrative : Anne Frank
https://web.archive.org/web/20220127093057/https://www.whataboutthewhen.com/murder_jfk_jr_anne_frank.html
= 666 months, 666 weeks, 666 days
MG
Gentiles are generally too decent to comprehend Satanic evil.
Like the assassination of JFK, or the USS Liberty, or 9/11, and so on..
Jewish supremacists count on the Gentile mind being too decent to comprehend that level of unspeakable evil. It’s not that they’re dumb, it’s that they’re too decent. They can do the math, and science, and build great things, they just can’t comprehend the depraved evil of murdering three thousand people, in order to plot the destruction of ‘seven nations in five years’.
But that isn’t what I was specifically talking about. What I was talking about, is if they did know, would they still go along with it?
With Jewish supremacists, if they thought assassinating JFK would be ‘good for the Jews’, then they’d be enthusiastic supporters of the crime.
Ditto the USS Liberty and 9/11 and ‘destroying seven nations in five years’.
But most Gentiles are not psychopathic murderers, and most Gentiles would want all the people responsible for JFK or 9/11 to hang from a rope. Even if you said, but murdering JFK is good for you! and good for America!, because of blah, blah, blah..
No matter, Gentiles would still want the assassins to hang from a rope.
It’s like Leo Frank. All Gentiles (99+%) who aren’t deviant monsters, would want Leo Frank to hang, even if he were a Gentile. But Jewish supremacists don’t think Leo Frank did anything wrong. Mary Phagan was just a shiksa, (rotten piece of meat), and so no Jew should suffer for raping and murdering a shiksa.
They all knew he was guilty. Everybody knew. But the Jews wanted him to go free. (She was just a shiksa!)
That mentality sounds so alien to a Gentile, because Gentiles are not raised in the Talmudic tradition, where only Jews have a soul, and Gentiles were put here for the pleasure of Jews.
So the chasm between the way our respective minds work, is my point. And it’s not about smarts, any more than Dubya was smarter than the victims of 9/11. He was just more depraved.
And it has nothing to do with smarts, and everything to do with sick and twisted delusions of superiority, and a widespread tribal psychopathy that makes some Jews think Leo Frank should have gone free. Mary was only a shiksa. The three thousand people who died on 9/11 were almost all worthless goyim. ‘Cattle’. Nothing to worry about. Ditto all those men on the USS Liberty, and JFK, and all the millions of people butchered by the post-9/11 wars for Israel.
That’s all I’m saying..
If you want to pooh-pooh the Gentiles for not being as psychopathic as ‘the Jews, and therefor falling victim to their treachery, then okay. Yes, I agree that happens with regularity.
But even so, I don’t blame those Gentiles like Pat Tillman and 90+% of the people of the planet who believed it was Muslim terrorists who pulled off 9/11.
And they didn’t believe it because they were all stupid. (some of them are very, very smart people indeed). They believed it because that’s all they heard from every media outlet and federal politician. And, they simply are not that evil and rotten, (all smarts or lack of, aside), that then can conceive of people who are.
If you go to the fancy restaurant on the corner, and sit down to a nice meal, and then pay for it and leave, talking with your wife about how odd the meat tasted, but didn’t realize that the dish that they specifically prepared for you was your (fill in the blank, pet, coworker, child, etc…), and while you and your wife are dinning, all the people in the kitchen, and the owner of the restaurant, are all busting a gut, laughing, because they know they specifically made the dish out of someone you care about…
… does that make you and your wife stupid, because you should have known that killing and feeding your loved one to you on fancy china, is what these people would obviously do, even tho such an act would be so far beyond anything you could conceive of, as to be impossible to comprehend.
The frog will always be the frog, and the scorpion will always be the scorpion, but the tale isn’t about smarts, rather it’s about character.
But in one way you are right, and that is that the Gentiles had better wise up to what and who he’s dealing with, because if he doesn’t …
The evidence is found in the disconnect between the Zapruder Film and the official sequence of events asserted by the Warren Commission.
For example, begin by watching the Zapruder Film. Then watch any Youtube video of a Mannlicher Carcano being fired. Notice how loud the Carcano is in real life. This is the rifle that Lee Harvey Oswald was alleged to have used on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository, firing over the heads of the people lining Elm Street.
As you watch the Zapruder film, pay close attention to the moments when the Presidential limo makes the turn from Houston onto Elm Street, passing under the TSBD. It is at this point that the Lone Nut crowd alleges that Oswald fired his first shot, missing the limo when it was at the closest, easiest shot. Then, a few moments later, the Lone Nutters claim that LHO fired the shot that would hit both JFK and Governor Connally.
Now, here is my dilemma: why don’t we see any startle reactions by the people standing in the line along Elm Street to the high powered rifle that is allegedly being fired right above them? Anyone who has ever been in Dealey Plaza knows just how tight a space the entire area is; it looks bigger on film. And anyone who has ever had a high-powered rifle fired a few stories above their heads in a confined space like Dealey Plaza would have had automatic startle reactions and would be running and ducking for cover. Instead, the bystanders are just calmly and casually standing around as JFK rounds the corner on his way towards the head shot with a lone nut allegedly firing from a high-powered rifle above their heads. In fact, the only real startle reactions that we ever see in the Zapruder Film come from the people closest to the Grassy Knoll.
Ruby was a Zionist, a member of the Jewish mafia and no stranger to violence. Last, he’d been diagnosed with terminal cancer and was living on borrowed time. IOW, he had nothing to lose.
Mildly amusing, but what’s your point?
You know, there are a lot of examples of your ‘stupid’ people, who I guess deserve what they get for being so ‘stupid’
and really, a whole lot of others, who were too ‘stupid’ to comprehend the nature of what they were dealing with.
the list is very long
‘stupid’ goyim
A fellow TUR poster, Chuck Orlowski, advised me to read the book “Best Evidence: Disguise and Deception in the Assassination of John F. Kennedy,” by David Samuel Lifton [1981].
So I happily pass along his advice.
If Ruby had prior knowledge, surely he could have picked a better vantage point to watch than the news building, which was 1/4 mile away and did not have an entirely unobstructed view of the “kill zone.”
But Ruby likely did have prior knowledge and chose a better vantage point, all right, if informant Bob Vanderslice’s claim is true that he’d been invited by Jack Ruby on the morning of Nov. 22, 1963 “to watch the fireworks,” and was standing with Ruby directly across Dealey Plaza from the Texas School Book Depository at the time of the assassination. Vanderslice said Ruby then turned away without a word, and began walking in the direction of the Dallas Morning News, which by my measurement is just ~1,000 ft. from the corner of Commerce and Houston, a distance Ruby could have walked in just a few minutes, and that probably explains mistaken reports that he was in the news building when JFK was shot.
https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/docid-32149267.pdf
As for Richard Nixon, I’d be a little more careful and cautious about Tricky Dick, if not downright suspicious. On several occasions, Richard Milhous Nixon spun fanciful tales – lied – about his presence in Dallas at the time of JFK’s assassination, falsely claiming he’d already flown out of the city before Kennedy was shot dead, but attendees at the Pepsi convention said Nixon was still there when Kennedy’s shooting was announced.
The real story, accoding to L. Fletcher Prouty:
https://prouty.org/nixon.html
So Nixon had entirely legitimate reasons for being in Dallas at that time, as he was in town representing Pepsi president Don Kendall at the sody pop conventions. Richard Nixon had no plausible reason to lie about his presence in Dallas when Kennedy was killed, except for a guilty conscience resulting in an apparently irresistible but clumsy urge to try to distance himself from the scene of the crime.
When RFK was assassinated in 1968, the single greatest beneficiary was Richard Milhous Nixon.
Pres. Nixon reportedly later had a conversation with the Rev. Billy Graham where the two discussed concerns about Jewish domination of the media, yet it was Pres. Nixon’s critical resupply of Israel in the strangely named Operation Nickel Grass during the 1973 Arab-Israeli war that provoked the Arab Oil Embargo. Nickel Dick’s resupply probably turned the course of the Yom Kippur War against the Arabs, and included over 100 McDonnell-Douglas F4 Phantom II fighter-bombers drawn directly from three active USAF fighter wings.
And for a long time, George HW Bush claimed he couldn’t remember where he was or what he was doing on Nov. 22, 1963. I suppose that’s how he got his name on CIA headquarters.
This story is silly. There is no point in refuting various fantasies.
Suffice to say, both Soviet and Israeli governments thought that there was a coup, and the perpetrators were right-wing billionaires connected with CIA & local Dallas underground/police.
Golda Meir was actually one among JFK conspiracy theorists: https://www.haaretz.com/2013-11-19/ty-article/.premium/golda-meir-had-doubts-on-kennedy-death/0000017f-db43-db5a-a57f-db6b796f0001
Dimona was a marginal issue, Soviets knew the basics & didn’t care a bit. The whole Dimona super-importance is a myth. Everybody knew about that & basically nobody cared.
After all that time, Castro and the Soviets should be off the hook. It leaves us with the “Deep State”- high echelons of politics, plutocracy, CIA and intelligence community combined with the mob.
Howard wrote:
The Warren Commission is the group who proposed the ridiculous “magic bullet” theory. So why would anyone use its findings as a base line for anything?
Howard wrote:
I’m not sure how the comparison between
1. the sound of a Carcano rifle fired in front of a camera AND
2. the sound of Oswald’s Carcano rifle fired 6 floors up inside a room and 30 yards away from Zapruder’s movie camera
is relevant to determining much of anything.
Howard wrote:
As far as I know no one claims that Oswald took his first shot when JFK’s limo was directly below his 6th floor perch. Oswald’s first shot missed. And while Oswald earned an expert marksman badge while a Marine this was with open sights shooting a fixed target. A sniper Oswald was not. In his assassination attempt of Retired Col Walker, Oswald likely fired from a concealed position at Col Walker who was alone and not moving inside his home. Oswald missed.
A proper ballistics investigation of Oswald’s second shot (as opposed to the Warren Commission’s magic bullet nonsense) showed that all the wounds found in JFK and Connally line up. There was no magic bullet just a purposely slip shot investigation. Even if it wasn’t Oswald who fired from the 6th floor Book Depository, someone fired the second shot from that position. Unfortunately Oswald did NOT fire the third shot most witnesses report hearing.
Howard wrote:
On the Zapruder film Gov Connally clearly reacted to the first shot (which missed) and did turn to his right. Whether or not the Zapruder film captured others reacting is irrelevant since numerous eye witnesses reported hearing the at least 3 shots. As you point out Deally Plaza is surrounded by buildings with sound waves bouncing back and forth. It is often impossible for a witness to know where the shot was fired from unless they saw the muzzle flash.
Oswald missed his first shot and hit JFK from behind and immediately below the base of the neck with his second shot. This passed through JFK just below the base of the neck and then passed through Connally in more than one location. Oswald did not fire the third head shot into JFK. The autopsy results (as muddled as they were) show a trajectory considerably lower and behind JFK. The round passing through JFK and Connally more than likely was the 6.8 mm full metal jacketed fired by Oswald. The round that entered JFK’s skull from behind and blew the front of his head off had an entry hole that was approx 6 mm—–more than likely a 5.56 x 45 frangible round. JFK’s skull was littered with 100s of fragments. This is what a frangible round does.
Thanks, so much, Daniel Rich!
And I hope even the author, Mark Gaffney, of this excellent article, can find the time to read Lifton’s Best Evidence.
A quick review at Amazon ruled out this book—for me—right off the bat. The author apparently concluded that JFK was hit with at least 6 different bullets and targeted by as many as 10 shooters. And that someone shot at JFK from the 6th floor Book Depository but a different side from Oswald’s alleged perch. Witness interviews certainly don’t confirm 6-10 shots fired. And no witnesses report gun flashes or 6-10 gun-totting shooters in a position consistent with the autopsy.
The problem, of course, is that most of the JFK books sound convincing and authoritative but its difficult to determine which actually are authoritative. My money wouldn’t be riding on David Lifton.
“Jewish supremacists count on the Gentile mind being too decent to comprehend that level of unspeakable evil. ”
— Agree. Look at the Straussians (neo-talmudists) infesting the US State Department (Sullivan, Nuland-Kagan, et al.), the FBI/CIA, and the Department of Justice (the ghastly Garland). They are genocidal by design. On Purim, while Jewish children are stuffed with sweets, they are taught about the joy of murdering “others” by tens of thousand. To desensitize Jewish children, the sweets include cookies in the shape of the human ear.
In the Purim story, the victims, Persians, were the hospitable hosts, whereas the Jews were obnoxious and greedy “visitors” (intruders) to Persia. Not surprisingly, the Purimized ‘culture’ produces genociders like Madeleine Albright (a daughter of a Jewish thief Korbelov), Nuland-Kagan (Nudelman), and Zionist financiers like Schiff and Soros. The Zionist-Nazi putsch in Kiev in 2014 pursued the goal of creating conditions for the genocide of the Russian and Ukrainian people.
https://stanislavs.org/fainting-piglet-aka-unconscious-pig-satirical-cartoons-explain-the-core-of-ukraine-and-why-smo-was-unavoidable-with-future-updates/
Did it say anything about the ever changing coffin with JFK’s body in it?
Did it say anything about the discrepancies in JFK’s remains: “Early press reports from the emergency doctors in Dallas said that JFK had suffered an entrance wound in the throat, and a massive wound in the head” [a fact that later on did a full 180]….?
Did it mention the fact that Dr. Humes [the doctor who carried out the postmortem on JFK’s body] explained that he burned his original set of notes because they were stained with Kennedy’s blood…?
“Based primarily on the acoustical analyses performed by BBN and Weiss and Aschkenasy indicating that there were gunshots in Dealey Plaza from both the Texas School Book Depository building (where Lee Harvey Oswald allegedly fired three gunshots) and the grassy knoll area (one gunshot) during Kennedy’s assassination, the HSCA found, in part, that ‘scientific acoustical evidence establishes a high probability that two gunmen fired at President John F Kennedy.’” – Link to DOJ
The gest of the main idea remains in place, and that’s to shatter and defragment the [available] information as much information as possible, drench it in a bucket filled with distortions, lies and half-truths, and then throw it nonchalantly back over our heads.
You’re welcome, and apologies for squeezing an extra ‘W’ in your name :o]
Hope all’s well in your neck of the woods.
Another misdiagnosis of the problem.
It’s not the ‘left’ that is doing this. It’s ultra-right Jewish supremacism in ‘progressive’ clothing.
Also, so-called ‘conservatives’ who claim to defend free speech are totally silent about suppression of BDS or even support it.
The problem isn’t the elites think ordinary people can’t handle controversial ideas. It’s that Jewish supremacism cannot tolerate truth speaking to its power.
Ben Gurion probably met with JFK at least three times. I’m sure PM had no problem with lying to President’s face about Dimona. Kennedy knew the trouble a nuclear power in the Middle East would cause. Eisenhower should have exposed what France/Israel were really doing in the desert together.
Read this book:
‘Final Judgement: The Missing Link in the JFK Assassination’ by Michael Collins Piper.
Mr. Collins Piper is now deceased, however, before he passed he would meet with JFK assassination researchers and put forward his (extremely well researched) theory about the Israelis and French (OAS) being behind the assassination. This theory has never be presented at any of the JFK assassination conferences.
Here’s a quick summary of the thesis of the book:
According to ‘Final Judgement’ the murder was probably committed by right-wing French gunmen (OAS) with major support from the Israelis. The French and the Israelis were strong allies until Charles De Gaulle came to power. The French had even helped the Israelis to get their nuclear program up and running.
The French right-wing (OAS) despised JFK because he supported Algerian independence. They also tried to kill De Gaulle because in 1962 he agreed to a French withdrawal from Algeria. Fredrick Forsyth (who worked for British Intelligence) wrote the famous book ‘The Day of the Jackal’ based on this attempted assassination. In this book a sniper tries to shoot De Gaulle – sound familiar?
The Israelis also hated JFK for a variety of reasons:
1) His father, Joe Kennedy, was perceived to be an anti-Semite who tried to keep the United States out of WW2 (he was the US ambassador to Great Britain). 2). Most importantly – JFK vehemently opposed the Israeli nuclear program. 3) JFK also supported Algerian independence and the Israelis didn’t want to see nationalism spreading throughout the Arab world.
Lee Harvey Oswald was the ‘patsy’ who was conveniently silenced by Jack Ruby (real name Jacob Rubenstein). Jack Ruby was a gangster and was connected to (((Meyer Lansky))) who was the real godfather of organised crime in the United States.
Alot of people hated Kennedy. Splintering the CIA was the last straw.
He had no idea how powerful the Military Industrial Complex was.
Trump was removed because he created Peace…Not War.
Had the “arranged” Hilary been installed- Iran would be in ruins and 100,000 more American soldiers would be dead.
I am more inclined now to believe Johnson was 80 % of the murder. The CIA and Johnson. And the Jews “wrote” the history and help maintain the narrative. Just like after 9/11. All the Jews cleaned it up, wrote the narrative, controlled the courts and the media.
They all worked together to slaughter this poor man. What is shitty is they could care less if his wife was killed too. They could care fucking less.
She was 1 inch from his face, looking at his throat when the headshot zoomed two inches from her head and impacted his head. That is some sorry motherfuckers.
What makes no sense to me is that Texas governor John Connally would willingly sit right in front of Kennedy knowing he was going to be assassinated from multiple angles. Makes not one damn bit of sense.
No Texas boy familiar with firearms is gonna sit right there happy as a lark —directly in front of Kennedy. No freaking way. No rational person would sign up for that.
And I believed he was overheard stating….”Oh God they are gonna kill us All”.
I think he was either not at that meeting or was told a completely different plan. So that his reaction would look normal.
When I see a comment such as this I’m saddened, because I can see the author is a group (tribal) thinker rather than someone who considers all important issues on their merits.
In what sense is there an “Anthropogenic Global Warming hoax”? Do you dispute the fast-rising level of atmospheric carbon dioxide on which we have exact data since the 1950s? Do you completely deny there’s a possibility that this – and rising levels of other “greenhouse gases” – could have a significant impact on the planet’s climate? Do you believe a significant and unpredictable change in the planetary climate will have no detrimental consequences for agriculture, biodiversity and the habitability of low-lying land? Do you consider that decarbonising our economy is not a way to at least slow the rate of accumulation of GG gases in the global atmosphere?
In short, where’s the hoax? Is it only in the fetid imagination of “Alt influencers” such as David Icke, Alex Jones, Mike Rivero, Jeff Rense, Gonzalo Lira and any number of other semi-educated clowns who pretend their ill-informed hunches have more weight than a gigantic, growing body of scientific evidence (which none of them show any sign of comprehending)? I suspect so.
That’s not to advocate avoiding debate about the topic of climate change/global warming. Everything is open for debate. But tribal thinkers pick up sets of glib beliefs and like to cajole others into buying the same package. The result can be very off-putting to other potential customers. If I buy a selection of tropical fruit, I’d like the selection to be made with care. I don’t want the vendor to substitute (unwittingly or not) a turd for a durian.
Don’t forget the books burned in Merida Mexico (Yucatan Peninsula ) —a real University and emptying that library it took 2 weeks for all those books to be burned. Reason: Must be the works of the devil.
Esther 3:13 –now there is the solution. Is this why the “chosen people” ( Killed the prophets) and chose Barabbas are again–in charge?
The Hornberger book is a diversion. It never asks nor answers the key question of Zapruder’s film:
How was it that Zapruder, a member of the J-ish Businessmen’s Association of Dallas that invited JFK to Dallas, was precisely at the location of where JFK was shot? And how was it that Zapruder had a moving picture camera and a film lab in his house?
After all, consider the source!
I’d dearly love to see RFK Jr become POTUS, but it will never come to pass.
No, the Zio cabal won’t kill him. They won’t have to. That’s because they control the nomination process through the primaries.
The ZOG controlled DNC will see to it RFK Jr gets no further than ‘Super Tuesday’.
To see how it will play out, just rewind back to the Democratic primaries in 2020.
The first three primaries were conducted in Iowa, New Hampshire and Nevada.
These were more or less legitimately conducted primaries and Biden scores 13%, 8% and 18% of the popular votes respectively.
In other words, THERE IS LITTLE SUPPORT FOR BIDEN AMONG THE RANK AND FILE DEM VOTERS.
Then along comes ‘Super Tuesday (March 3rd) and magically a deluge of support suddenly shows up for Biden.
Ahhhh …. the magic of ‘super delegates’.
For those of you not familiar with what a super delegate is, in the Dem primaries not all delegates are allocated one vote each. Select delegates (ie: ZOG approved delegates chosen by the DNC), each have multiple votes on their own.
In other words, the Super Delegates decide who the Dem nominee will be to contest the Presidency.
We saw that play out in the 2016 primaries. Bernie Sanders consistently drew huge crowds while HRC barely drew anyone at her rallies. Yet, Hillary became the candidate.
LBJ isn’t a Jew because I said so, then someone in the UR commentariat agreed with me, then another seconded the motion.
There is an abundance of evidence out there (and much of it has been posted in UR that I’m aware), of links to articles and information documenting LBJ’s Jewish background through the maternal line (and that’s not to say there isn’t any Jewish lineage through the paternal line as well).
So stop being a dick, and reflexively defending your tribe each and every time.
In future you should pause, take a breath, carefully review the documentation at hand, and acknowledge that your tribe is at the root of all the depraved crimes of the modern era.
James Douglass and his book is a fraud.
And I say that because NOWHERE in his book does it mention Dimona (the Israeli facility in the Negev Desert where the Apartheid Israel state were developing the A-bomb).
In fact, it doesn’t mention the Israeli angle at all. No mention of the heated arguments JFK was having with David Ben Gurion over the issue which was central to why JFK was killed.
(From recollection, Ben Gurion’s name is not even in the index of the book).
And that’s why the book was highly praised by the Zio controlled MSM and achieved widespread distribution through the Jewish owned major book publishing houses and was widely promoted.
The Zio establishment loved Douglass’ book because it DEFLECTED ATTENTION AWAY FROM ZIO CULPABILITY.
Douglass knew that if he ever mentioned the Israeli angle that his book would likely not even get published and therefore he’d forfeit a ton of money in lost book royalties.
One book stands out as being far above the others in JFK research, and that is ‘Final Judgement’ by Michael Collins Piper. It is far and away the benchmark on the JFK coup d’etat and pulls no punches.
Proof of that was the degree of demonisation Piper got from the Jewish lobby over this book – like no one has gotten either before or since.
The book is available to read free here in UR.
Mark H. Gaffney: Consider that through the aforementioned individuals Johnson controlled state and local government, the site for the planned hit, law enforcement, the media, and the cover up. LBJ had all of the bases covered.
No, not yet all. Isn’t the president Commander-in-Chief of something or other?
I did a quick search, but I couldn’t pull up the verified quote from LBJ to certain military persons: You get me in the White House, and I’ll give you your god damn war.
I think Oliver Stone uses it, but it needs inspection here.
It never made any sense to me that a Jew like Jacob Rubinstein, born on the wrong side of Chicago would evince such sympathy for the Catholic Irish JFK, son of the hated “anti-semite” (“anti-semite” since he bettered the Jews in stock-jobbing and perhaps running around the Prohibition to get the Catholics their wine for the Mass) Joseph Kennedy, that he would kill Oswald merely because he hated him for killing JFK. If Oswald’s killer was say Mao Chee Fung they would have immediately rounded any Chinese person on suspicion of it being a Triad hit. But since its one of the Holy People who did it, he had to have done it out of love. Never mind that Ruby was a pimp and gun-runner himself.
‘Anthropogenic’ = man made.
The average Earth temperature has gone up and down OF IT’S OWN ACCORD over many millions of years WITHOUT man’s input. (ie: Solar cycles, the variability of the elliptical path of this planet as it circles the Sun, the natural variability of the tilt of the Earth’s axis etc).
After coming out of a mini Ice Age (approx 1600 – to the mid 1800’s), it was to be expected that the average Earth temp would rise a little (around 1 deg C over the last 150 years) seeing as it was coming off a low base.
You speak of semi-educated clowns who allegedly don’t believe in man made global warming yet the REAL semi educated clowns are the people that are propagating this myth you believe in.
(The few so-called climate scientists that are going along with the hoax are those that have sold out to the Zio cabal and accepted the shekels to propagate the alarmism).
If you really want to learn the science then you should read what Professor Emeritus Richard Lindzen has to say, and Princeton’s William Happer. Also Prof Tim Ball and former Greenpeace co-founder Patrick Moore to name just a handful of honest scientists (a few of them are featured in the video I have posted below).
At the end of the day there is a TON of info from objective scientists that easily debunk the fraudulent nonsense that’s been pumped into your head by the corrupt Zio owned MSM.
I suggest you watch the entirety of the video below and get a proper enlightenment.
At the very least watch the few minutes from 18:20 – 22:00 that single handedly eviscerates the ‘CO2 being responsible for Global Warming’ fable:
Did you absorb that Syd ?
Let me spell it out in simple terms.
Do you understand the concept of Cause and Effect ? Do you believe wet footpaths (called ‘sidewalks’ by the Yanks) cause a downpour of rain OR is it the other way around ?
According to the scientifically illiterate Climate Loons, CO2 rises FIRST, and that increasesd concentration causes the temperature to rise thereafter.
But the ICE CORE SAMPLES prove emphatically that the temperature rises FIRST and only than (after many hundreds of years) do CO2 levels rise.
In other words, the OPPOSITE of what the lying Climate Alarmists are telling us.
And it makes sense that CO2 rises AFTER the temperature rises. This is in accordance with the scientific phenomenon of ‘Outgassing’.
In other words, the bulk of the world’s CO2 is dissolved in the world’s oceans and when temperatures rise, the oceans RELEASE that CO2 via Outgassing.
Conversely, when the temperature falls, the oceans ABSORB CO2.
It’s that simple Syd. Needless to say none of the Climate Alarmists told you any of the REAL SCIENCE when you were attending those Extinction Rebellion rallies or chaining yourself to pine trees in plantation forests demonstrating over a NON PROBLEM.
NASA photographs show the Earth is GREENING and vast section of major deserts are RETRACTING as this greening process increases with added CO2.
For the sake of the Earth let’s hope we can get CO2 to ideal levels of around 800ppm – 1000 ppm.
Future generations will thank us and most of the Earth will be a lush tropical paradise with temperatures no different to what we have today.
They did not need to kill JFK (and RFK) to maintain the status quo over the long run. They needed to kill JFK (and RFK) to achieve dominance over the Irish faction of the New Deal, which they demonstrably achieved.
This is a positive goal (gains something) as opposed to a negative goal (avoids some loss). I’m not sure why you object to this explanation, as it seems compatible with your account of intermediate term Jewish goals and does fit the known (in fact inescapable) facts. Further, it is compatible with Jewish actions during the 1930s in Eastern Europe and with post WW II Jewish propaganda depicting the US white population as a threat to Jewish existence (most notably in _The Authoritarian Personality_ and reports of high US scores on the F-scale).
Deep suspicion of US motives and power struggles on the scale of Chief of State assassinations tend to be to obtain victory, not to avoid losses, and in this case the Jewish coalition would have seen victory as synonymous with survival. Thus we have a past history of ruthless power seeking and a contemporaneous belief that political struggles in the US were “kill or be killed”.
Whoever it was, there was a distinct shift in US policy after JFK’s (and RFK’s) death. Whoever benefitted from that, in this case whatever coalition became dominant and destroyed the Irish coalition as a political contender, would be the primary suspect, and would remain under suspicion until either proven guilty, or until some other culprit was determined to be guilty, or (as is the case) until the suspected coalition lost power and its means of ascension to power became of academic interest only.
So I’ve established motive, means, opportunity, and a pattern of behavior, plus cui bono (who benefitted?).
I have no idea. I’ll leave that to people who specialize in that incident. Judging from the comment stream, there is a large number of such people, some of whom appear to have invested large fractions of their working career in the incident. You guys fight this out among yourselves. I’ve pointed out enough to make Jewish Presidential assassination plausible, you can take it from there. Or don’t, up to you, I’m done.
To emphasize the point, I quote a well known poem: “I have answered three questions, and that is enough.”, said his father, “Don’t give yourself airs. Do you think I can listen all day to such stuff? Now be off, ere I kick you downstairs.”
And I’m done because the actual coalition of interest is now the Black coalition, as it holds the power, so what it does has actual present day effects, as opposed to the Jewish coalition, which is of primarily historical interest and is best treated today with simple avoidance while it is dismantled by the Black coalition.
You know Pagano (or should I call you ‘Guano’, seeing as your commentary is wall-to-wall excrement), you’ve said some dumb things in this thread so far, but this comment of yours is pure disinfo.
How much are your Zionist handlers paying you ?
You carry on about Oswald being the lone gunman and how the kill shot (that blew a huge hole in JFK’s head) came from behind.
Were you paying attention in high school physics classes ? Evidently not.
Do you know anything about the Law of Conservation of Momentum ?
After JFK’s head was struck, his head moves back and to the left.
Let me repeat: BACK and to the LEFT.
In other words, that meant the bullet that struck him came from in FRONT and to the RIGHT, as the laws of science relating to Momentum Transfer would indicate.
The team of doctors that worked on JFK (led by Dr Malcolm Perry), in the FIRST press conference immediately after it was announced that JFK was dead, signalled that the shots came from in front.
Also this from Dr Perry:
Got that Mr Guano ?
But, that didn’t fit in with the official bogus narrative of the USG that insisted a lone gunman was shooting from the TSBD.
So Perry (and the other doctors) were intimidated/threatened into changing their original testimony to say that all the shots came from behind in their submissions to the Warren Commission.
The fact is, there were MULTIPLE SHOOTERS in Dealy Plaza that day – some of whom were shooting from behind.
One of them was LBJ’s personal hitman – Malcolm ‘Mac’ Wallace, who likely fired the bullet that struck JFK in the back.
The following video is a few hours long but well worth watching. It covers a lot of background historical info in the first hour of the video that leads up to the the JFK coup d’etat.
In your case Guano, seeing as you have a short attention span, you need only watch the few minutes from 1:38:00 – 1:43:00 to hear the names of the numerous shooters that day in Dealy Plaza:
Probably the most rambling piece of nonsense I have ever read on this site or on the internet. Complete grade 6 idiocy.
“How many Gentiles from France and England and Belgium”
Since Germany’s own openly declared war aims involved territorial acquisitions from France and Belgium,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septemberprogramm
then of course the people there would fight. Britons would also fight to stop the emergence of a dominant power on the continent with the aims such as Bethmann-Hollweg declared in this program. None of that was dictated by Jews. The ability for Zionists to exploit the situation when trying to lobby for something like the Balfour Declaration came much later and had nothing to do with the origins of the war.
That article is kind of interesting, but not as definitive as the writer makes it sound. Protestants have a long history of adopting Jewish-sounding names. When I first heard of David Hilbert, I was sure that he must have some Jewish roots (“David” is a very Jewish name, and a name like “Hilbert” reminds me of “Raul Hilberg” who is known to be Jewish). It turned out that he was born of Germanic Evangelical background. There’s no reason to believe that Hilbert was Jewish. He passed away in Germany in 1943 under peaceful conditions. Given that precedent, I would have to expect better evidence for LBJ than just the names of his maternal grandparents, as interesting as that may be. Have any biographers tried to research the genealogy in detail?
a. Actually, I’m not so sure about that. What wasn’t mention in this essay was PERMINDEX and it’s connections to both a failed attempt on Charles De Gaul’s life and later on their involvement in the Kennedy assassination. Clay Shaw, directory of PERMINDEX and former OSS operative was overheard discussing the assassination prior to the hit. Shaw was put on trial for conspiracy to murder JFK by Jim Garrison and was only acquitted because the judge wouldn’t allow is alias “Bernard Shaw”, if memory serves, to be entered in as evidence for the jury to hear. Shaw had been asked when he was arrested if he had gone by that alias and he answered in the affirmative. His alias was how eye witnesses had identified him. According to jurors had they known this they would’ve come back with a conviction.
PERMINDEX was a front company for Mossad. See the following article:
https://americanfreepress.net/rothschild-link-to-jfk/
This is almost as convincing as that yacht they found by the pipeline.
The western governments (& the deep state) are the culprits, the people have been manipulated into it via fraud or dispossession.
Replying to stupid people like you is useless, so I will stop.
The beginning of Gaffney’s article is a reiteration of the theories espoused by quite a few JFK assassination researchers. Episode 9 of “The Guilty Men” is an expose of those theories. It’s back up on YouTube after being deleted and then reposted several times.
Truth Vigilante wrote:
Ridiculous nonsense; I argue no such thing. My reply to John Howard concerned “his” interest in shots by a Carcano rifle from the 6th floor of Book Depository. So the bulk of my reply addressed his concern.
Nonetheless I mention another shot that certainly could not have come from the Book Depository. Apparently, in your haste, you failed to read my last paragraph. Here’s a chance for you to REREAD it now.
Truth Vigilante wrote:
Your description of physics might be from Hollywood “Dirty Harry” physics but it certainly isn’t Classical Newtonian Physics. The problem here is that the collision between a bullet and the human body is NOT an elastic one that can be idealized like the collision of two billiard balls.
The round fired from high in the Book Depository that hit JFK, from behind, just below the base of his neck passed cleanly through likely causing a wound cavity and a bigger exit wound. There is no physical reason to expect that this round would have imparted any significant momentum to JFK’s body causing his head to radically move forward (and it did not). There is no elastic collision between the round and JFK’s body. The first shot from the Book Depository missed, hitting low (the street), sending up debris that hit JFK (Kennedy exclaimed at that instant, “I’ve been hit). These two bullets fired from high in the Book Depository were undoubtedly FMJ.
As an aside: No Israeli sniper sent by Ben Gurion and positioned in the Book Depository would have needed more than one shot and they would not have hit Kennedy in the neck. Was it one of Lansky’s goons? Unlikely, the mob’s expertise (regardless of nationality) is to kill up close and personal with no witnesses. Oswald on the other hand was a screw up, he was no sniper and failed in his assassination attempt against Retired Col Edwin Walker only a couple months earlier. Witnesses put Oswald in the Book Depository before the motorcade arrived. Those are the facts.
Now let’s continue with our Newtonian Physics lesson as opposed to Truth Vigilante’s Hollywood “Dirty Harry” Physics:
There was a 6 mm hole found in the back JFK’s skull—-low and to the right. The likely trajectory was from behind JFK and to the right and low. Obviously this round could not have been fired by Oswald in the Book Depository (who was high and left). And the 6.8 mm Carcano rounds were too large to have caused a 6 mm hole. The round that made the 6 mm hole was likely a 5.56mm x 45 cartidge (typically fired from an M-16 or AR-15 which left numerous metal fragments in JFK’s skull cavity and embedded on the inside of his skull. Most of the 5.56mm rounds made at the period were frangible and are designed to disintegrate after penetration. The Newtonian physics is coming up.
The 5.56 mm round did NOT collide with JFK’s skull from behind elastically it penetrated. That is, it could not have imparted any appreciable momentum to JFK’s head causing it to move forward. After penetration the 5.56 mm frangible round would have rapidly disintegrated into hundreds of metal fragments creating a wound cavity and large intra-cranial pressure. The shock wave and center of gravity of the fragments were still traveling more or less in straight line along the bullet path to the upper right front of JFK’s skull. The over-pressure blasts a hole in the upper right front of JFK’s skull along with a portion of his brain matter. From Newtonian physics: for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Guess what happens when the pressure from JFK’s brain matter blasts out of the front of his head? That’s right folks: his head is blown back and NOT forward. As far as any other gyrations JFK’s body may taken can be explained by involuntary muscle contractions combined with the fact that the Secret Service driver of his limo pounded the accelerator after the shot went through JFK’s neck.
No point in me wasting much time on the rest of your comment.
Laurent Guyenot documentary on the Kennedy Assassinations and the explanation on why the files will never be declassified
Agree with it all, Annamaria,
And I watched many of the ‘piggy’ videos, and a lot of them are spot on. Like the one at the end with ((Uncle Sam and Churchill)) watching as the Ukro-piggy gets throttled.
I did have some issues with some things, like all the swastikas on the piggy, (which are apropos), but what’s glaring by omission are the stars of David and menorahs that should be all over the piggy too. (at least if they wanted to be honest about it).
Also, it was telling how the piggy was made to clean off the monuments to the Soviet enslavement of Ukraine. With some Russian nationalistic chest-thumping over the ‘glorious Red Army rapists’. I didn’t care for that part. And it is a sticking point in the Russian / Ukrainian (and all former Soviet satellite state’s resentment of Russia), who continues to pretend that the Red Army liberated someone, which is absurd (and to those people in Poland and Estonia and Ukraine…, offensive).
Other than that, it was interesting to see how the piggy and the bear represent some of the Russian, (and Chechen and other Muslim) regions are not so keen on Russia becoming gay, as Ukraine seems to be enthusiastic for. So they’re not just zio-‘Nazis’ taking orders from genocidal Jews, they’re also gay-friendly and diversity-friendly ‘Nazis’.
They deserve to be mocked as the stupid piggy, licking up to ((Uncle Sam and Perfidious)), and promising to be gay, if only they can join the ((European Union)).
I don’t know which bible translation you are using, but that is not the version I’ve seen. That version reports that the Jews were captives in Persia. A Jew (Daniel) had been Babylonian prime minister to Nebuchadnezzar. The Jewess beauty Esther became the Persian Queen. Her grave is a pilgrimage site for Iranians to this day. Her uncle Mordechai was an elite scribe to the Persian King. Either you don’t know how to read or you are a liar. But in both cases you are damned to hell.
Esther (Hadassah) was a whore.
She was well-known for servicing the Persian army, sometimes several at a time. That’s how she became so famous. No other whore could service so many soldiers at the same time. They sang (crass) songs about her. Mordecai was her pimp.
The historical record simply gets blurred by the writings of the Bible, but it’s all in the historical record.
Thank you, Mark H Gaffney.
Zionism means the 70+ years still ongoing bloodbath in Palestine as well as the death of President John Fitzgerald Kennedy, other members of his family and many others like US Marines in Beirut for example.
Today March 10, an Israeli settler shot dead a young Palestinian
Couple days ago IDF invaded Jenin refugee camp in force …
https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2023/03/07/699467/Six-Palestinians-killed,-others-injured-in-Israeli-attack-on-Jenin-camp
Over SEVENTY YEARS nonstop slaughter (incl JFK).
Your physics are wrong unless you are postulating an explosive round. A ballistic from the back can only transfer forces in the general direction of its vector.
“the Jews were captives in Persia.”
— Like they were in Poland, Turkey, Spain, Germany, Russia, and now in the US? No one is holding them here by force. Moreover, not many Jews want to live in Israel among other Jews; they, for some reason, prefer to be “captives” in western countries and Iran.
Why didn’t you mention the nature of the relationship between Esther and Mordechai? Some sources name her a ‘cousin’ and some a ‘wife’ or ‘concubine’ of the obnoxious newcomer Mordechai. Read your Jewish sources before going into a hysterical fit.
As for Mordechai, did he not disrespect the traditional rules of the Persian court? The obnoxious Jewish master of intrigue wanted to become a real “effendi!” That was the cause of the eventual genocidal action against the Persians. Jewish children are taught, from infancy, to rejoice about the violent deaths of 75.000 Persians.
Do you also condemn this description?
Do you disagree that the Purimized ‘Jewish culture’ produces genociders like Madeleine Albright (a daughter of a Jewish thief Korbelov), Nuland-Kagan (Nudelman), and Zionist financiers like Schiff and Soros? Do you have any evidence to argue against the statement, “The Zionist-Nazi putsch in Kiev in 2014 pursued the goal of creating conditions for the genocide of the Russian and Ukrainian people?”
In 2014, the US State Department (infested with Straussians) ran the Zionist-Nazi putsch in Kiev. Nuland-Kagan, Sullivan, Gershman (NED), Sherman, and a crowd of other Jewish supremacists were working for years on the Nazification of Ukraine, cooperating with the CIA and NATZO-MATZO. The Jewish Fueher Zelensky (formerly a homoerotic dancer and “pianist”) is the supreme commander of self-proclaimed Nazi formations in the Ukrainian army. Like you, he speaks Hebrew and has zero respect for human life.
“The coup d’état of the Straussians in Israel,” by Thierry Meyssan https://www.voltairenet.org/article218957.html
“The EU brought to its knees by the Straussians,” by Thierry Meyssan
https://www.voltairenet.org/article217976.html
Here is your late witch Albright: “The deaths of 500,000 Iraqi children, was worth it — for Iraq’s nonexistent WMD’s.”
Albright also made a nice gesheft on the Yugoslavian tragedy. And did not she enjoy the bombing of Belgrade for 78 days? This crime was named the “Madeleine’s War” after the genocidal Jewish witch Albright. “There’s a ‘Special Place in Hell’ for Madeleine Albright.” Wish you meet her in this hell for genociders. https://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=37461
https://covertactionmagazine.com/2022/03/29/albright-was-a-key-figure-sparking-new-cold-war-by-championing-nato-expansion-as-secretary-of-state-in-1990s/
To give you a sense of my conspiratorial predilections, my worldly wise father always thought LBJ was behind the JFK assassination, and that “the Jews” controlled world finance and NYC real estate…
I have maintained for many years that the Dallas hit was like an Agatha Christie plot in which ALL the characters were complicit in the murder. Rockefellers, banksters, oil magnates, Jewish and Italian mafiosos, Zionist nukesters, CIA Company officers, FBI chiefs, and assorted lowlifes like Ruby and Ferry were involved in the plot. Seems Oswald was the only one trying to protect the President…
There were TWO different people posing as a ‘Babushka Lady’ in Dealey Plaza on 11/22/63. One BL was present before and during the assassination, then shortly thereafter was replaced by another BL.
I’ve written an ebook on this subject, which includes analysis of the photographic evidence. It can be downloaded for free from:
https://aninspiredbitoftreason.wordpress.com/
The issue that the Jews had one of the best motives and tremendous dislike of a Catholic President and his Catholic Attorney General is not at issue.
In this case how do you connect Clay Shaw to the murder scene at Deally Plaza? As far as I know Garrison only charged Shaw with conspiracy. Little has been revealed about the exact nature of Shaw’s involvement. There is is a chasm between Clay Shaw’s part in some JFK assassination plot and who pulled the trigger at Deally Plaza.
The ballistics evidence is unequivocal that Oswald (or someone in the Book Depository) was not the only shooter.
another fred wrote:
Only if the collision is ELASTIC. The bullet can only transfer a force to JFK’s head if the collision is largely elastic—-that is there is no net loss of kinetic energy in the system as a result of the collision. Both momentum AND kinetic energy are conserved quantities in an ELASTIC collision. An example would be the collision of a moving billiard ball with a stationary one. With this “elastic” collision the momentum and kinetic energy of the moving billiard can be completely transferred—without loss of either—to the stationary ball. The initially moving ball would stop and the initially stationary ball will move away at the same velocity.
This is NOT the case with a 5.56 mm frangible round into JFK’s head. This is almost a perfectly INELASTIC collision. This 5.56 mm frangible round is specifically designed to dump all of its kinetic energy into the target immediately after it penetrates. In the case of JFK’s skull cavity the kinetic energy of the 5.56 mm round was NOT conserved. Kinetic energy from the bullet was lost after impact and took the form of heat and a dramatic pressure increase inside JFK’s skull cavity. The pressue shock wave inside his skull proceeded along the path of the bullet and blasted out the upper right of JFK’s skull. This pressure explosion and release out the front would have caused his head to go back according to Newton’s 3rd Law.
Why the US ziocons/CIA/NATZO-MATZO/bankers/oilmen have arranged the genocide of Ukrainians and Russians in Bakhmut by investing tens of $ billions of the US taxpayers’ money into the corrupt Zionist-Banderites regime in Kiev:
Comment by ‘Bela Jarolics:’
The following map superimposes the gas field and the front lines. A closer look shows that Bahmut is a key area:
T-V,
I have watched that documentary a couple of times and I think that it is an excellent one. Another good video is “2 Men In Dallas” and it features lawyer Mark Lane and Roger D. Craig, who was with the Sheriff’s Department.
Roger Craig’s honesty nearly cost him his life. As it turned out, he died a broken man.
There is another website which has an Excel spreadsheet of many of the people who were associated in one way or another with the JFK murder and their deaths –
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FmXudDf6pqisxq_mepIC6iuG47RkDskPDWzQ9L7Lykw/edit#gid=1
I have also read L. Fletcher Prouty’s books. I believe that Mr. Prouty was a very credible person.
Thank you.
Douglas Horne on the Zapruder Film Alteration Debate
Excellent, in depth 3:00+ hour interview.
https://midnightwriternews.com/mwn-episode-107-douglas-horne-on-the-zapruder-film-alteration-debate/
This has been another episode of Izzies Making CIA Do Exactly What They Do All Over The World and Were Getting Ready to Do At Home.
Mossad and its patron CIA shot the president you erroneously elected 60 years ago, but now they’re really fucking you over.
https://unlimitedhangout.com/2023/03/investigative-reports/cia-and-mossad-linked-surveillance-system-quietly-being-installed-throughout-the-us/
You are the terrorists of West Palestine.
We know from two historically renowned experts in the field of propaganda, ie Elmer Davis, chief of the WWII era US Office of War Information, and Edward Bernays, author of the 1928 book Propaganda, that nothing beats the motion picture as a device to insert ideas into a person’s subconscious mind, without the viewer being aware of it having been done. [See supporting links below ‘More’.]
It’s reasonable to presume this also holds true for television.
In the early 1960’s there was a quite popular, and very US establishment oriented television series, called Route 66, which told a weekly tale of Yale graduate Tod Stiles’ (Martin Milner) and ‘ethnic’ sidekick Buz Murdoch’s (George Maharis) adventures attempting to ‘find themselves’ as they travel across the United States in Tod’s Chevy Corvette.
In regards to the Kennedy assassination, two episodes of Route 66 are of interest. The first, broadcast in 1962, was ‘Love is a Skinny Kid’, and the second, originally scheduled for a Nov 29, 1963 broadcast, but ultimately rescheduled for a later date due to it’s explosive content, was ‘I’m Here to Kill a King’.
‘Love is a Skinny Kid’, largely consist of an allegory of ‘the H’ as perceived by many of the Jewish people, and is told through a series of flashbacks as experienced by a beautiful young woman named ‘Miriam’ (Tuesday Weld).
Mixed in is heavy symbolism of the 1605 November ‘Gunpowder Plot’ to assassinate the King of England, ie the central character, Miriam, whilst wearing a mask to hide her identity, burns a figure in effigy attached to a pole. During this scene another character says ‘I don’t like you, Jack!’
Below is the episode.
Should you watch it, pay special attention to the people’s names. ‘Miriam’ is the name of Moses’ sister, to symbolize the Jewish people? Miriam’s neglectful mother, Lydia, is named after Europe’s first Christian convert, to symbolize ‘Christendom’? The unfriendly and sometimes hostile townspeople, the ‘Kilkennians’ sounds like ‘kill Kennedy’.
And while there is no Kilkenny, TX, there is a Kilkenny Co, Ireland, whose river border the historic Kennedy family homestead is located alongside. Madame Dafarge is name dropped in the dialogue. She was a Charles Dicken’s character who would encrypt the names of those to be executed into her knitting.
And was Kennedy’s encrypted name ‘knit’ into the script of this episode to signal his own coming execution via the assassination? [At 25:35 the initials ‘H. L.’ are featured, a reference to H L Hunt?]
Love is a Skinny Kid
The second episode, just below, the provocatively named ‘I’m Here to Kill a King’, was filmed in real time (in Oct, 1963) as Lee Harvey Oswald was being hired on at the Texas School Book Depository.
It tells the story of a wholly innocent 20 something young man who is a new hire at his place of work. Unbeknownst to the new hire, his new worksite sits alongside the motorcade route of a country’s visiting chief executive, and he is the designated fall guy to take the blame for a high level assassination plot which is to take out this said political leader.
It is planned that the fall guy will be killed before he can talk, and we are told the real people behind the assassination plot are the chief executive’s own internal security services. [Incredibly, the in your face, completely unhidden subtheme of this episode is ‘Arabs’, ‘New York’, and ‘ground zero’.]
I’m Here to Kill a King
Lastly, as documented by the Dallas Times Herald clipping and link below, Jack Ruby almost assuredly met personally with the Route 66 series production crew prior to the assassination, as they were photographed after hours at his Carousel Club in late 1961.
The Carousel employee featured in the photo, Najada, would testify to the Warren Commision that it was routine to see DPD officers enter the club, go to Ruby’s office, and then exit the club with bottles of whiskey tucked under their arms.
She also testified of once being struck by Ruby and wishing to press charges with a DPD vice officer who was present, whose response was to not only refuse, but to laugh in her face.
‘ROUTE 66’ers took in the show at Carousel. From left it’s unit mgr. Bob Maharis, Carousel’s Najada and Route 66 stuntman Fred Stromsoe.’
Dallas Times Herald — December 5, 1961
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elmer_Davis
https://archive.org/details/BernaysPropaganda/mode/1up
‘Lost Episode’ of Route 66 ‘Im Here to Kill a King’ and it’s many close parallels with the Kennedy assassination.
https://www.niagarafallsreporter.com/Stories/2013/Sep3/lostepisode.html
https://www.ohio66.com/newspaper/dallas/default.asp
Stills relating to the Kennedy assassination from ‘Love is a Skinny Kid’
http://copycateffect.blogspot.com/2012/08/weld.html?m=1
In a word, money-power. Where have you been the last three years?
Seems he was.
“According to Jewish law, if a person’s mother is Jewish, then that person is automatically Jewish, regardless of the father’s ethnicity or religion. The facts indicate that both of Lyndon Johnson’s great-grandparents, on the maternal side, were Jewish.
These were the grandparents of Lyndon’s mother, Rebecca Baines. Their names were John S. Huffman and Mary Elizabeth Perrin. John Huffman’s mother was Suzanne Ament, a common Jewish name. Perrin is also a common Jewish name.
Huffman and Perrin had a daughter, Ruth Ament Huffman, who married Joseph Baines and together they had a daughter, Rebekah Baines, Lyndon Johnson’s mother. The line of Jewish mothers can be traced back three generations in Lyndon Johnson’s family tree. There is little doubt that he was Jewish.”
https://web.archive.org/web/20180812064546/http://www.5tjt.com/our-first-jewish-president-lyndon-johnson-an-update/
Yes, indeed.
The well documented rise in atmospheric CO2 levels since the 1950s is attributable to the rise in CO2 emissions as a result of human activity (burning fossil fuels, deforestation etc).
But it would be churlish for my comments here to overlook the article by Mark Gaffney itself. What a superb piece of writing!
The author published his book about Dimona in 1989. I’m fairly sure that same book was one of the sources used by Michael Collins Piper in Final Judgment, published a few years later, which first explicitly pinned the Zionist tail on the JFK assassination donkey. Interesting that it seems to have taken Mr Gaffney rather longer to come to a similar conclusion – a measure of his caution or perhaps an indication of how compelling the case has become over time?
Oswald didn’t do anyone any favours. He was totally innocent.
Pagano (aka Guano) claims, in relation to what I wrote:
What don’t you understand about the following irrefutable facts?:
1) Oswald was SEEN by other co-workers at the time of the shooting, on the second floor of the TSBD, getting a Coke from the soft drink machine
2) Even a professional sharp-shooter would, in all probability, NOT have accurately struck JFK with the alleged Mannlicher-Carcano rifle at that distance, let alone the poor marksman that Oswald was.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT GUANO ?
This was a WWII Italian made rifle that British and Commonwealth troops (who fought the Italians in Nth Africa), referred to as ‘The Peacemaker’ – because it was so inaccurate that it seldom injured anyone, let alone killed them.
In fact, even professional marksmen were struggling to get three [semi accurate*] shots off in the 6-8 seconds that Oswald was alleged to have done it.
(*Yes, it’s possible to get three shots off in that time frame but when one factors in the couple of seconds between shots to stabilise the rifle/compose yourself and AIM, it is not possible).
This was not an automatic rifle. It was a bolt action variety that required some time between shots.
3) Oswald had no motive to shoot JFK. All the leaflets Oswald handed out in support of anti-Castro Cubans was all CIA B.S and misdirection. Oswald was a patsy – that’s why he had to be taken out by Rubinstein.
Because if he lived, he would have revealed the truth about his CIA handlers that pre-positioned him to take the rap.
You go on to say:
There is only one classification of the Laws of Physics and of course they are Newtonian Physics.
And anyone with even half a brain knows that your B.S explanation runs 180 degrees opposite to Newtonian Physics.
This is all high school science and you can’t even grasp that Mr Guano.
In any event, I have a S.T.E.M based hard science background that for certain would run rings around your ‘High School Equivalency’ academic credentials.
Only a FOOL would suggest that a bullet coming from behind (ie: from the TSBD) would hit JFK’s skull and then project bits of skull/brain BACK in the same direction from where the bullet originated.
Since you brought up Newton’s 3rd Law, consider the following:
i) I sit on a sturdy steel framed chair and exert a weight force. The chair exerts an equal and opposite reaction and the system is in equilibrium.
ii) I sit on another chair made of flimsy cardboard. The cardboard chair is unable to exert an equal and opposite force to counteract my weight.
This results in deformation of this ‘chair’ and it collapses when I sit on it.
This does not entail that Newton’s 3rd Law was violated. The cardboard chair may well have exerted an equal and opposite force for a few milliseconds, but ‘plastic deformation’ of the structure soon thereafter entailed that its structural integrity was soon compromised and whatever load bearing capacity it once had was now gone.
iii) A high powered rifle bullet is thrown at the top of Mr Guano’s flat head and comes to rest there in equilibrium. The weight of the bullet is opposed by an equal and opposite force from Guano’s thick skull.
The SAME high powered rifle bullet is fired at Mr Guano’s head and, travelling faster than the speed of sound, it punches a hole clear through.
Bits of his brain and skull are projected out of the back of his head IN THE DIRECTION IN WHICH THE BULLET WAS TRAVELLING.
What happened here, Guano Pagano asks ? After all, it’s the SAME bullet.
Why was Newton’s 3rd law satisfied in the first instance with an equal and opposite force plainly in evidence, and not so in the second instance.
After all, the mass of bullet did not change.
Of course, those that actually paid attention in their high school physics class (ie: not Mr Guano), will know that the second bullet had IMMENSE Kinetic Energy by virtue of its velocity, and would thus punch a hole clean through Mr Guano’s skull before the skull had any chance to even attempt an ‘equal and opposite’ reaction force.
UR readers can check out You Tube for themselves of rifle bullets striking pumpkins.
The bullet makes a small entry ‘wound’ and produces a much larger exit wound.
Needless to say, the larger chunks of pumpkin fly out of the BACK of the pumpkin IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAWS OF MOMENTUM TRANSFER.
ie: they don’t do a U-turn and go back in the direction from where the bullet was fired.
ONLY A MORON WOULD SUGGEST SUCH A THING.
Mr Guano, you’ve embarrassed yourself mightily with your original comments.
But you’ve compounded the humiliation tenfold with you comment # 173.
I recommend you STFU from here on, lest you make things worse for yourself.
Pagano (aka Guano) writes:
In that 5 min sequence I suggested you watch from my video in comment # 164, all the shooters are named – and OSWALD IS NOT AMONG THEM.
Every man and his dog that has done even a modicum of research on the JFK coup d’etat knows that Oswald was not one of the shooters, and in fact that he admired JFK.
And, the most important piece of exculpatory evidence that exonerates Oswald is this:
https://www.jfk-assassination.net/factoid2.htm
Simply put:
Did you get that Guano ?
OSWALD TESTED NEGATIVE TO GUN POWDER NITRATE RESIDUE – emphatic proof that he had not fired a gun that day.
Of course the corrupt Dallas Police Dept did not release this finding to the world because it ran counter to the narrative of the Zio dictated script.
Once again Mr Guano, you must be feeling pretty embarrassed after yet another juvenile faux pas.
You really do know next to nothing about what really happened that day in Dallas.
The extent of your knowledge comes courtesy of reading the book ‘Case Closed’ by the mendacious Jew Gerald Posner, who is an obvious tool of he Zio cabal.
You are one dumb f*ck indeed.
Guano writes:
You just can’t help yourself, can you ?
Your disinfo controllers must be on your back to keep peddling your B.S story, no matter how often I (and others here in UR) expose you as an ignorant fraud.
So, let’s move on to the ACTUAL DOCTORS that worked on JFK at Parkland hospital – doctors that had seen countless gunshot wounds before and knew the difference between an entry and an exit wound.
Watch the short sequences of testimony from 2:50 – 3:15 and then from 5:50 – 7:30 in this video below featuring Dr Charles Crenshaw:
Later in the video a bullet wound to JFK’s back is mentioned, and indeed that was fired from behind.
That is very likely the bullet fired by LBJ’s personal hitman Malcolm ‘Mac’ Wallace.
If that’s not enough for you, put the name Dr Robert McClelland (another doctor that treated JFK that day in Dallas), into a You Tube search and watch him say the SAME THING.
Brad, why am I not surprised that you’re on top of this issue, as you are on just about every other matter of importance.
That 8 min Mark Lane video you posted is very good, but if you want to know more about Roger Craig, you and the other UR readers should make time to watch the full 20 min video below from which those excerpts of Roger Craig were taken:
If ever there was a GENUINE American hero* related to the JFK assassination, this man was head and shoulders above the rest.
(*If it was up to me, I’d rate him on par with Audie Murphy and award him a posthumous Medal of Honour).
The decency and honesty of this man was a thing to behold. That such a good man should meet this demise is a tragedy beyond description.
Meanwhile, the following is an unpublished manuscript from Roger Craig, given to me by another commenter (whose name escapes me) in an exchange I had last year in another JFK related thread in UR:
https://ratical.org/ratville/JFK/WTKaP.html
For those committed JFK researchers, this is a MUST READ and details the relentless abuse, intimidation and misery Roger Craig was subjected to (by the perpetrators of the JFK murder) over many years before they finally killed him.
It’s a half hour read, more or less, but well worth it.
Roger Craig could so easily have avoided all the drama and lived out his life in relative comfort.
But he stuck to his guns and would not waver from telling the truth.
He was a GOOD COP until the day he died.
BTW Brad, in relation to the two men that Mark Lane speaks of in the last minute of your video (that were, according to a witness, on the 6th floor of the TSBD – one a white man with a rifle and the other being a coloured man), the white man was LBJ’s personal hitman Malcolm ‘Mac’ Wallace.
Mac Wallace’s fingerprints were positively identified on the 6th floor.
Once again, the corrupt Dallas Police withheld that info from the public and the Warren Commission.
Syd, I suspect you did not read the entirety of my remarks in comment # 162 (judging from your response, you only got as far as the first line), and you may not be familiar with the methods employed here by the editor Ron Unz in ‘truncating’ comments.
Whenever a message is off topic and somewhat lengthy (this thread is about the JFK assassination and my message was exposing the Anthropogenic Global warming fraud that was lapped up by the gullible who are devoid of critical thinking faculties), Ron truncates it and inserts the ‘[MORE]’ symbol.
If you wish to read the whole message you must click onto the [MORE] tag and the rest of the message will appear.
Before you do so, sit down in a comfortable chair and take a sip of water.
(Because you’re going to blow a fuse and come out red-faced and embarrassed for having the hubris to believe, for even one second, that mankind has the wherewithal to affect the average Earth temperature for the WHOLE* planet).
(*Yes, yes I’m well aware that the depraved USG through the application of HAARP and weather modification technology can affect LOCALISED regions of the planet to induce drought, floods etc, but for the Earth as a whole this is impossible.
Anyone who thinks this is achievable should seek psychiatric attention at once).
I’m not committed to Oswald being the shooter however Oswald’s gun was found in the book depository with two recently fired casings. The third casing found had too many firing pin strikes to be recently fired. Two months earlier Oswald had used the same rifle in a failed assassination attempt of Col Edwin Walker in Texas. And Oswald had wanted to do some great and terrible thing to the US since his defection. The ballistics of the round which struck JFK just below the base of neck indicates a shot fired from high in the Book Depository. Notwithstanding the parafin test these are the facts. If not Oswald firing in the Book Depository then who. Who did Ben Gurion or Lansky send to do the hit from the Book Depository?
There had to have been at least one other shooter. The Book Depository shooteer did not hit JFK in the head. Who did Ben Gurion or Lansky send to be that trigger man? These questions are all left unanswered. I don’t question for a moment that there was a conspiracy to kill and cover up JFK’s murder, I’d simply like to see evidence that actually implicates a particular human other than Oswald.
And its promising to see that you’ve abandoned your ill conceived Hollywood “Dirty Harry” Physics about bullets and human bodies. Apparently you can be taught.
I wondered if he’d already been diagnosed. Do you know this or suspect it?
I read this literally decades ago. Knowing how biased Wikipedia is, their article on Ruby states Ruby
“…. was admitted to Parkland Hospital in Dallas on December 9, 1966, suffering from pneumonia. A day later, doctors discovered cancer in his liver, lungs, and brain.”
Even with this slim information, his cancer didn’t get this far along unknown. Reading between the lines, I have no reason to believe anything other than Ruby, given his circumstances, decided to take one for the” team”.
The Truman Show, 191, let’s say you’re a big shot Jewbanker, and you come to me, a CIA knuckledragger, and say, “Hey, spy! Do this thing for me, I’ll give you money!” And you rub your fingers and thumb with a lascivious Jewy leer, to inveigle me to do your bidding.
And I say, “No, here’s what we’ll do, you give me money and I don’t do the thing. Cause I can do any fuckin thing I want and get away with it! Like I can waterboard you, like this! Ha, ha, blub-blub, huh? Ah, just kidding… And I can cut slits in your dick, see? Ow, yeah! It’s gonna be like a corkscrew if we’re not careful! …and we can simulate burying you alive, too! What? What? Oh, OK, thanks for that nice money! Dig you up now? No, you can’t come out yet, first gimme some more money.”
Pro tip: if a genie pops out of your bong and offers you shitloads of money, or impunity, take the impunity. It’s way better.
Where you been the last 70 years?
My view on global warming is that I would be willing to align my view with the consensus view of experts whatever their claims if there weren’t the lockstep campaign from the media and Hollywood to get me to do so.
I did my own research and discovered that if world migration from the low carbon footprint global South to the high carbon footprint global North ended tomorrow, it would have an immediate and positive impact on carbon emissions that would become gigantic over time. Were it not for immigration, the populations of the entire North would be stable or even shrinking, but our population is growing rapidly thanks entirely to our stupid policy of transferring the teeming masses of the south to the north for the benefits of cheap lettuce.
But Hollywood and the New York Times, the same folks who want me to accept the climate crisis narrative, will also viciously attack any effort to reduce immigration, as Donald Trump discovered.
The whole thing smells fishy to me. It looks even fishier if you have the intellectual honesty to notice that Hollywood and the media are largely controlled by Jews, and that the “solutions” to global warming they do offer generally boil down to transferring wealth and sovereignty from nations to global institutions.
The global warming debate shouldn’t be over whether it is or isn’t occurring. The demand should be that all immigration be halted immediately–a policy that could be enacted tomorrow with huge benefits for the global climate.
I disagree with your assertion that “Johnson was 80%” of the murder. Probably more like 50/50, as in 50% US Deep State and 50% Zionist Israel. Johnson’s submissiveness towards and refusal to attack Israel following Israel’s act of war against the USS Liberty, demonstrates that Johnson was not the Boss. America’s foreign policy towards Israel did a 180 degree turn for the worse beginning with LBJ. Israel viewed Kennedy as an existential threat and powerful traitors in the US wanted JFK out of the way for their own reasons. A deal was struck and it has lasted to this very day as evidenced by the ongoing love affair between the bipartisan Establishment and Israel in matters of foreign policy. It’s also the reason why neither Trump nor Biden were permitted to unseal the remaining, classified JFK assassination records when they came up for review in 2017 and 2021.
the best thing lyndon johnson (small letters intended) ever did was die. the worst thing he ever did was to wait so long to do it.
yes, i hate that man and his death has not diminished that fact. being reminded of that piece of Texas trash drags up the negatives. otherwise, he is, thankfully, absent from thoughts in my mind until he is dragged up again from the bottom of the cesspool.
“Reading between the lines, I have no reason to believe anything other than Ruby, given his circumstances, decided to take one for the” team”.
In ‘Final Judgement: The Missing Link in the JFK Assassination’ the author (Michael Collins Piper) advances the theory (along with compelling evidence) that Jack Ruby (Rubenstein) ended up in the Zionist State of Israel.
“There had to have been at least one other shooter. The Book Depository shooter did not hit JFK in the head. Who did Ben Gurion or Lansky send to be that trigger man?”
In ‘Final Judgement: The Missing Link in the JFK Assassination’ the author (Michael Collins Piper) advances the theory (along with compelling evidence) that the gunmen were French (OAS or Corsican Mafia). The OAS hated JFK and they attempted to assassinate Charles De Gaulle in 1962 using the same sniper tactics. Also, after World War 2, the American CIA utilised the French (Corsican) Mafia to intimidate and murder communists and trade union organisers in the port city of Marseille.
Misleading article although some details are probably valuable. Decision to kill Kennedy was made by Russian Politburo. At that time Zionists did have total control of Politburo and that time they were convinced they will rule the world by Communism system.
The rest you can figure out by yourself.
There was no such shot. Your ballistics are based on BS.
Commissioner Gerald Ford’s crucial editing of a key passage in the Warren Commission Report relocated upward the position of the bullet wound in Pres. Kennedy’s back so it would work as part of the fantastical flight path of the mythical Magic Bullet.
However, photos of JFK’s bloody shirt (CE 394 etc.) show that bullet wound in his back was well below the level of his shoulders.
Photo montage: Getty Images from Snopes
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/kennedy-bloody-shirt/
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1997-jul-03-mn-9338-story.html
Pres. Kennedy’s back wound was shallow, with neither bullet nor exit found by Dr. Humes who probed the wound with his finger during the second, “show” autopsy at Bethesda after all bullets had been removed from JFK at an earlier, surreptitious autopsy, also at Bethesda.
If the Secret Service had not illegally hijacked the President’s corpse at gunpoint from the legal medical authorities in Dallas, neither of these illegal autopsies at Bethesda could have taken place. Of course, if the Secret Service had done its job on Nov. 22, 1963, the President wouldn’t have been assassinated in the first place.
My conjecture is the shot to JFK’s back may have passed through the top of the back seat in the limo before hitting Pres. Kennedy, which would tend to indicate it was fired at a rather shallow angle, and might explain why the bullet did not penetrate deeply into JFK’s back.
In any event, JFK’s back wound has no direct connection with JFK’s throat wound, which was inflicted by a bullet that passed through the windshield of his limo before striking the President. The “through and through” bullet hole in the windshield was noted by several observers as the limo sat at Parkland Hospital, as well as by the Ford technician who replaced the windshield later.
Sherry Fiester’s forensic analysis of the throat wound and bullet hole in the windshield shows that bullet had to have been fired from the general direction of the south grassy knoll area along and above Commerce, directly across Dealey Plaza from the more infamous north grassy knoll/stockade fence area along and above Elm, where another team of assassins was likely shooting at the President, or perhaps merely creating a noisy and showy distraction.
By now, most serious researchers know that the tenuous paper trail linking the Carcano with Alec Hidell and Oswald is riddled with inconsistencies. Roger Craig never wavered in his insistence that the weapon originally found in the TSBD was a Mauser, which he and other officers were able to identify by the manufacturer’s imprint stamped into the receiver.
But if Oswald had really wanted a rifle to kill right-wing Gen. Walker or left-wing Pres. Kennedy (see how silly this is?), he easily could have walked into any of dozens of gun shops, pawn shops or hardware stores in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, and purchased a powerful, high-quality deer rifle like a 30-06, or similar, with cash, without leaving a paper trail of any kind.
Finally, back to the Magic Bullet. According to O.P. Wright, who handled it right after it was found Darrell C. Tomlinson, the bullet originally found at Parkland Hospital had a pointed tip, completely unlike the rounded tip on CE-399, the Magic Bullet.
https://history-matters.com/essays/frameup/EvenMoreMagical/EvenMoreMagical.htm
In a nutshell.
Role of mafia was to prevent strikes on the waterfront not interdict Nazi sabateurs.
Oswald was not one of the shooters. Your scenario has been debunked several times.
I agree with you too. 80% is a little strong. I forgot about the USS Liberty collusion. LBJ definitely was a corrupt piece of shit. Maybe even Jewish which would explain his psychopathy.
Imagine the psychopathy required to stand right next to the wife of the man you murdered and console her. What a colossus piece of shit:
If only she had access to 1 gallon of gasoline and a flare gun.
Bellissimo articolo, illuminante e più che verosimile.
È confortante vedere, qui dall’Italia, che negli USA c’è ancora chi non accetta il dominio della menzogna e si batte per la verità.
Grazie.
Jews should certainly be suspected of zionism and semitism, but not-guilty until proven.
The title indicates that this crap is not worth reading. JFK was a Zionist and so was his brother. That was why the latter was killed. JFK was murdered by the CIA and other deep state participants. The CIA and American big oil were always pro-Arab and pro-Nazi. Dulles brothers brought in hundreds of Nazis into the US and facilitated their escape to other parts of the world. America is run by the same degenerates that ran Nazi Germany and it is going to turn out the same way.
Badly.
https://www.ecosia.org/images?q=jewish%20governors%20in%20usa
Sounds like DT
Cider. I vaguely remember a poem about a girl who had cider inside her insides.
Only if you are postulating that a lot of his brain was vaporized, i.e. changed state and expanded, or iow, exploded.
As Lyndon Johnson arrived “well after midnight” that means the inner meeting of the twenty five conspirators happened on the same day as the assassination. It seems unlikely twenty five people would gather to plot a murder on the same day. Johnson was “heavily intoxicated” so alcohol was readily flowing. What were the twenty five high powered individuals doing in that room? Enacting a Masonic type pledge of secrecy and mutual protection? George Bush was also in Dallas but not one of the twenty five, was he at the Murchison party? He was a lowly CIA officer. Nixon turns up but does not attend the inner room meeting. Trust Nixon to be creeping around. I have heard he left Dallas that morning and was on the plane when the assassination took place. Four living and future presidents were in Dallas on the assassination day. Edgar Hoover was of the twenty five. He rang up his boss Robert Kennedy to inform him of the assassination. Would that mean he rung from Dallas? Wouldn’t in those days that have required a toll call. A toll call from the FBI Director from Dallas.”Your brother the President has been shot in Dallas.” It seems curiouser and curiouser.
Governor John Connally is also reported as one of the twenty five conspirators at the Murchison party. It seems incredible that the Governor would put himself into almost suicidal danger along with his wife to enter the car beside JFK. After the shooting, he is reported to have called out. “My God they are killing us all.” Photographs show him very relaxed in the car beside the president. This list resembles the Epstein Island list. The only high powered individual missing from the Murchison list is president Kennedy. Like the only high powered individual missing from the Epstein list is president Trump
If one of them converts to Christianity, which almost certainly happened, the chain is broken.
I’m limiting my discussion to the bullet wound in the front of JFK’s throat below the Adam’s apple which Dr. Carrico from Parkland Memorial documented unequivocally. There’s no reason to deny the honesty of this observation. If you deny the existence of this wound then you might as well stop reading now. In any event any other wounds evident in JFK’s body—other than the throat wound—could NOT have come from the Book Depository.
Your certainty, in the face of so much uncertainty, particularly with the autopsy evidence, is puzzling. You assign a higher weight to conclusions drawn by some that are NOT the only ones that can reasonably be drawn from the evidence. The evidence does NOT speak for itself.
The fact remains that Dr. Charles Carrico was the first doctor to examine JFK at Parkland Memorial. He observed two wounds: a small bullet wound in the front lower neck below the Adam’s apple and a large, gaping wound in the President’s head. Surgeon Malcolm Perry of Parkland saw the President having great difficulty breathing and immediately performed a tracheotomy, opening the throat slightly on either side of the neck wound. He then reinserted a respirator tube Carrico had previously placed in the wound to assist JFK’s breathing. Unfortunately Perry’s incision irrevocably altered the appearance of the neck wound. Did Dr. Carrico fabricate his observation of a bullet wound just below JFK’s Adam’s apple? Seriously doubtful. The Secret Service detail made sure that Parkland Memorial was unable to perform a bullet trace of the throat wound.
At Bethesda Naval Hospital Cmdr Humes was unaware of the bullet wound to JFK’s throat. He assumed that the cut in JFK’s neck was a simple tracheotomy. It wasn’t until the following morning, long after the autopsy was completed that Humes talked to Dr. Perry in Dallas and learned of the gunshot wound beneath the President’s Adam’s apple. Humes’s report described the bullet hole in the back as being 5 1/2 inches laterally from the tip of the right shoulder and approximately the same distance below the right mastoid process, the bony point immediately below the right ear. This put the back wound about 2 inches below the nape of the neck and just to the right of of the spine.
Dr. Boswell from Bethesda Naval created a chart of the back wound showing the back wound several inches below Humes’s. Boswell would later say that his drawing was only meant to mark the approximate location of the back wound and that obviously he mistakenly marked the wound too low. However the bullet hole in JFK’s jacket and shirt (as you point out in your Comment #209) seemed to confirm Boswell’s drawing. An FBI agent at the autopsy measured the hole in both the jacket and shirt as being 5 1/4 inches below the collar and 1 1/8 inches to the right of the mid-line. Is it possible that Boswell incorrectly based his back wouldn drawing on JFK’s body by relying on the holes in the clothing? Possibly. However, since the clothing was not glued to JFK’s skin the holes in his jacket/shirt was not irrefutable proof of the exact location of the back wound.
A plausible explanation for the lower bullet hole in the clothing was that JFK had raised his right hand prior to the throat-shot pulling up both his jacket and shirt prior to the impact of the bullet. Dr Jack Latimer discovered a motorcade photo corroborating this possibility, Furthermore, the FBI’s examination of the bullet hole on the front of JFK’s shirt was irrefutable proof of the bullet hole in JFK’s throat. According to the FBI, the cloth fibers surrounding the hole in the front of the shirt were pressed out and not in. Consistently the shirt fibers in the hole in JFK’s back were pressed in. Irrefutable proof that the shot came from the back and exited the throat.
Then we move on to Gov Connally’s wounds: bullet through the shoulder, wrist and lower left thigh. How are they explained? Mostly they are not. First let’s look at a graphic of the ridiculous Warren Commission magic bullet theory:
The problem here is that the relative positions of JFK and Connally in the limo are incorrectly shown. Connally was actually sitting in a jump seat which was lower and slightly closer to the vehicle center line than JFK in his bench seat. In addition Connally had turned to his right just prior to the JFK throat shot. As a result we see the absurd magic bullet path. However now lets look at the throat shot bullet path if JFK and Connally’s body positions in the vehicle are correctly shown:
Here the bullet path from the Book Depository lines up with JFK’s throat shot and all of Connally’s wounds. Is this what happened? I don’t know but it explains more of the evidence without resorting to unseen shooters. Occam’s Razor, the explanation is simpler. JFK’s head wound cannot be explained as coming from the book depository, that requires a second shooter in another location.
Suspect no longer. Add:
Professor Richard Lindzen, Professor Emeritus of Atmospheric Sciences at MIT.
Dr John Christy, distinguished Professor of Atmospheric Science and Director of the Earth System Science Center at the University of Alabama
……and a majority of Climate scientists.
What are you talking about? I’ve already explained that the throat shot passed through the windshield of JFK’s limo where it left a hole
Nonsense. The doctors at Parkland described the throat wound as a wound of entry. At the autopsy, Dr. Humes probed the back wound and there was no exit. As I wrote previously in another discussion:
[my bold]
https://spartacus-educational.com/JFKsibertW.htm
Well, they did 911 and got away with it. So…..think
Stalin and his J’s were evil monsters
>The doctors at Parkland described the throat wound as a wound of entry.
They did, yes — but then such a determination is usually confirmed later by the criminal investigation, i.e. who fired the shot and from where.
As I understand it, a ‘wound of entry’ is distinguished from an exit wound by its size and contours: an entry wound is generally smaller and has smooth contours when compared to an exit wound, because the bullet tumbles when transiting human tissue.
Which raises a question: how could a bullet that went through the windshield produce an injury that resembled a ‘wound of entry’, since it had already passed through the windshield, which is harder and so offers a lot more resistance than human tissue, and therefore presumably would have caused the bullet to tumble?
“JewsRock” agrees with you. You don’t understand a pivot as happened with JFK’s assassination. Naive. But jews rock is scum and sides with you. Shame on you
Frangible bullets are designed to penetrate and then largely disintegrate. That is they dump most of their kinetic energy almost immediately after penetration by creating a large wound cavity. The energy is mostly converted to heat and pressure. That the top- right-front of JFK’s skull was blown off is an indication of the pressure release. According to Newton’s 3rd Law it is largely irrelevant what exploded out of the top-right-front of JFK’s skull only that something did causing an equal and opposite reaction.
In addition the Secret Service driver of JFK’s limo had stomped on the accelerator applying a centrifugal force rearward to everyone in the vehicle.
If you were able to actually provide the debunking (which I doubt) we would likely find only a different interpretation of the evidence which often included arbitrary decisions on how to weight pieces of the evidence or ignore other pieces. Or weight different expert’s opinions. The evidence doesn’t speak for itself.
The evidence that someone high in the Dallas Book Depositor fired a round that caused an exit wound through JFK’s throat just below the Adams apple hasn’t been debunked. And while everyone agrees that the magic bullet theory is bunk those in your camp have no clear answer how to explain the three wounds in Gov Connally except with the necessity of three different shooter all at different locations and heights in relation to the street. Shooters for which there is no forensic or witness evidence.
Claim certainty if you like but there is none and it is doubtful that there ever will be. Those that think a a release of gov’t files will clear up the matter are more loony than the Warren Commission who proposed the magic bullet theory.
“While LBJ was a scumbag asshole…he is not Jewish.”
–You pretend that one excludes the other?
Nuland-Kagan and her husbands are both scumbags and Jewish; they are the principal figures in the Nazification of Ukraine. The genocidal Kagans clan alone deserves to bring changes into holobiz museums’ exhibitions and show documented cases of Jewish activities for the restoration of Nazism in Europe.
Jake Sullivan, Greenblatt, David Fishman, Carl Gershman, and Wolfowitz are Jewish scumbags known for their supremacist ideology that converged flawlessly with the ideology of the Ukrainian Nazi Party. By their deeds, Zionists are all Banderites now!
Bibi is a perfect example of a Jewish scumbag who is unable to educate his wayward progeny (swamped in corruption and prostitution) yet bloviates about “high Jewish values.” Bibi is a parasitic and ridiculous Jewish scumbag.
Schumer, Schiff, Nader, Goldman, and Garalnd are exemplary Jewish scumbags openly and criminally lying and intriguing against the American citizenry while using the FBI and the CIA as their private fiefdoms. They hate America and Americans the same way the Jewish Bolsheviks hated Russia and Russians.
This is your tribal rule. Live with it:
https://web.archive.org/web/20180812064546/http://www.5tjt.com/our-first-jewish-president-lyndon-johnson-an-update/More: https://www.facebook.com/5TownsJewishTimes/posts/our-first-jewish-president-lyndon-johnson-an-update-a-few-months-ago-the-associa/490682947651922/
This Leo Frank, who was a confirmed rapist and murderer of a young girl: https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-adl-in-american-society/
This is a unique story about Jewish dishonesty, rabid supremacism, unscrupulous tribal cohesion, and unlimited abilities to lie and slander others. You can see the exhibition of the same unscrupulous and unlimited abilities to lie and slander others during the ongoing Federal Government hearing. Your tribe has neither shame nor dignity.
It’s a fair question, and I believe I can address it in both logical and general physical terms while digging for some additional citations that support the scenario described by certified forensic investigator the late Sherry Fiester and her advocate “Alek Hidell.”
Glass and human tissue have different material properties, and laminated windshield glass is typically only about 1/4″ thick. Even Twiggy wasn’t that skinny. Nevertheless, the same general rule applies to both glass and flesh when struck by bullets: small hole in, big hole out.
Projectiles striking windows leave a classic defect in the glass shaped like a truncated cone, with the big end pointing in the projectile’s general direction of travel, and the small end indicating the point of impact.
The only question here is what happens to a bullet passing through windshield glass, and how that might apply to Pres. Kennedy’s throat wound, which because of its original small size must have been a wound of entry, as described by Parkland doctors.
The effect a sniper’s bullet would have had on the windshield glass of JFK’s limo depends on a number of unknown factors, such as type, caliber and velocity of the bullet, sniper’s angle to the windshield, and sniper’s elevation above or below the windshield and JFK.
This article from Hornady provides some background information about those factors. Relevant to your question, there is no mention of bullets tumbling after passing through windshield glass.
[edted for relevancy and brevity]
https://www.hornadyle.com/resources/le-faq/what-can-i-expect-when-shooting-through-glass
According to Hornady’s article, bullets passing through glass do not tumble, but they do shed some part of themselves passing through the glass, while the remaining central part of the bullet and other fragments retain significant velocity and penetrating power.
I see nothing in Hornady’s article to rule out the passage of a bullet or its large fragment through the windshield glass of JFK’s limo and on into Pres. Kennedy’s throat, which accounts for the President’s first immediate reaction, where he is seen clutching at his throat after being struck there by a bullet.
Alek Hidell’s article “The South Knoll Gunman” has the corroborating information I mentioned above: tiny leaks of embalming fluid from JFK’s face as a result of penetration by glass fragments:
…and a debris cloud in JFK’s limo reported by close witnesses:
https://midnightwriternews.com/the-south-knoll-gunman/
This kind of bullets were called dum dum bullets. they were used at the beginning of WW2.
Eventually they were prohibited to manufacture by Geneva convention.
Of course, there are Jewish scumbags, but not all Jews are scumbags. The fact is there are more gentile scumbags than there are total Jews…live with it.
As much as you Jew haters want to claim that anyone who speaks the truth about Jews…is a Jew…I am not.
the entire Kennedy family being treasonous and moronic pieces of shat does not mean that LBJ was not also a treasonous evil piece of shat.
Lincoln murdered the Republic and adherence to Constitutional limits upon the Federal government.
Jew vs. German-American: “We own your name!” https://www.si.com/golf/news/jack-nicklaus-felt-owned-by-business-partner-howard-milstein-sworn-affadavit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Nicklaus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Milstein
Just done a search of this page for two names – Arlen Specter author of the ludicrous “magic bullet” theory:
……and the funder and eminence gris behind Johnson’s political career, Abraham Feinberg:
They deserve a mention as, in my view at least, their roles present strong evidence of Israel’s involvement.
This thread is really starting to smell like ass with all random bloviation. That’s a relief, actually, from all the CIA junior spy cadets yelling, Golda Meir in the study with a poker!
I have a feeling this is somehow relevant, if only as prededent:
T-V,
I just finished watching the video on Roger Craig. He WAS an American hero. I am familiar with ratical.org and have visited that website many times. A lot of information there.
If you are not familiar with the books written by Antony Sutton, Ph.D. (now deceased) and his videos, they are very worthwhile. Like Roger Craig, Antony Sutton always told the truth about everything and that cost him his position at the Hoover Institute.
Later…
The US Gov’t apparently does whatever it wants with impunity.
That’s the story I read a long time ago. I don’t remember where.
Just about everything in this post was covered in Final Judgment, by Michael Collins Piper. Kennedy was forced to accept Johnson as his running mate in exchange for Jewish support to win the election. He also had to promise to do their bidding after the election was over. Johnson was their backup plan – if Kennedy didn’t follow through with the expected support of all things Zionist, he would be assassinated, and their lapdog would move into his vacated office. The assassination was a joint operation of the mob (led by Lansky), the CIA (especially Angleton) and the Mossad.
Massive shipments of arms to Israel started within two weeks of Johnson’s assumption of office, and the Israeli acquisition of Lebensraum started in 1967. The Israelis acquired a portfolio of nuclear weapons without a word of protest from the US.
Johnson was so deep in their pockets that he recalled fighters that were launched to aid US servicemen when the USS Liberty was under attack by the Israelis during the Six Day War. Think about that – he opted to let US servicemen die rather than “embarrass our friends” (his words).
The details are abundant in Piper’s book.
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It is incomprehensible, unbelievable and unbearable, so indescribable and unspeakable, how these remote-controlled media court these Jewish world-destroyers. It is so disgusting and nauseating that these “media” should be switched off immediately and cleaned out like a filthy p*gsty. Doesn’t anyone see, damn it, what these insidious creatures are doing!
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Pa-Guano writes:
Not one of the objective JFK researchers is suggesting that the wound to JFK’s throat was an exit wound – NOT ONE.
And, if you refer again to my video of Dr Crenshaw (one of the doctors in Dallas that saw firsthand the wound on JFK) in comment # 197, he CLEARLY states it was an entry wound.
Now, if we were to assume for one second, the preposterous notion that the wound to JFK’s throat was an exit wound, WHERE is the entry wound ? (seeing as there is no entry wound ANYWHERE in the vicinity of the back of JFK’s neck).
Of course the LIARS that are propagating the official bogus story like Pa-Guano, are saying the entry wound was the observed bullet hole in JFK’s back.
Only one problem with that explanation Pa-GUANO, and this is it:
One cannot help but laugh when one witnesses the CONTORTIONS the liars defending the official narrative have to go through to explain the actual observed facts of the murder.
Who’s paying you Pa-GUANO to post this utter nonsense of yours ?
(*Also important to note that the bullet wound to JFK’s back was off to one side – by several centimetres.
In other words, if it had struck him dead centre in his back, it would have struck the spinal cord.
It DID NOT.
And, if we draw a line from the bullet wound in JFK’s back to his alleged exit wound in the neck, we see that it is something in the vicinity of 20 degree angle (+/-) away from the perpendicular – the perpendicular representing a line pointing directly backwards from JFK’s body, and this line would also represent an UPWARD trajectory.
The only way that would have been possible if JFK was sitting upright when he was shot, which he most certainly was, is if the shooter was lying flat on the road UNDERNEATH the limousine as it passed over him.
The shooter would have had to shoot the bullet through the floor of the vehicle, striking JFK’s back, and then exiting through the throat).
Pa-GUANO, your theory, like everything you’ve posted in this thread, is BIZARRE (and that’s giving you the benefit of the doubt).
More accurate to just say you’re a BALD-FACED LIAR propagating Zio talking points and trying to salvage the reputation of your uncle, that despicable Talmudic Jew otherwise known as Arlen Specter (he being originator of the ‘Magic Bullet Theory’).
AnnaMaria, as always from you, a top shelf summation of the facts at hand.
You may have noticed Anna, that I tend to refrain from posting an ‘Agree’ or a ‘Thanks’ below your commentary.
Because, at the end of the day, you’d be on the receiving end of hundreds of them from me alone.
It goes without saying that everything I’ve ever seen from you is first rate.
You are indeed one of the resident treasures of the UR commentariat.
The unrealistic man writes:
I think I speak on behalf of most people here in the UR commentariat who expose Zio malfeasance and their orchestration of the most egregious crimes of the last century and more.
There are countless righteous Jews that are speaking the truth about the Ukraine proxy war, are involved in the BDS movement and exposing the human rights abuses and outright genocide of the Apartheid Israeli state, to name just a couple of issues where they’re doing a stellar job.
There are many good ones that were/are involved in the 9/11 Truth Movement.
Lynn Margulis was one such righteous Jew involved in the 9/11 Truth movement.
Awarded the National Medal of Science (the most prestigious scientific award in the country and the American equivalent of he Nobel Prize), Margulis looked fit and well in this video below, and had no serious preexisting ailments:
Within a year of that video being made she was dead.
She paid the ultimate prize (according to many in the know), for coming out and speaking the truth about 9/11.
She had to be punished for coming out against the ‘tribe’.
All of us owe Lynn Margulis our eternal gratitude for speaking up and not cowering in the closet on the 9/11 False Flag as you do Mr Unrealistic.
As a matter of interest, where do you stand on 9/11? Do you believe the official USG narrative on 9/11 and if not, can you spell out exactly who you think is behind it ?
Getting back to where I was earlier in this comment, most of the sincere individuals here in the UR commentariat seek ONLY to identify and prosecute that malevolent and depraved sliver of Jewry (and their lackeys) that is perpetrating these crimes and giving the remainder of Jewry a bad name.
Of course, in your capacity as an apologist for those guilty Jews (you always defend them without first objectively analysing the facts), you must shoulder some of the blame.
Hopefully, when a South African style Truth and Reconciliation Commission is convened at some time in the future, the metadata will be scrutinised thoroughly and your contributions in defence of Criminal International Talmudic Jewry will be noted and appropriate punishment meted out to you.
Perhaps you’ll get one thousand hours of community service and have to clean the toilets at your local mosque or some such.
Yes, that would be a well deserved way you could show some contrition for the cowardly way you’ve behaved all these years.
Thanks for the suggestion about Antony Sutton. I have seen a couple of his videos many years ago but have yet to read any of his books.
That’s something for my ‘to do’ list.
I had a feeling you might see eye to eye with me on Roger Craig. You’ve demonstrated time and again that you’re a principled individual and a true patriot of your country.
In fact, in my dealings with you in the UR commentariat, I would envisage you as someone made of the ‘right stuff’ – just like Roger Craig.
“Pagano”‘s arguments appear to be made in good faith and fairly closely reasoned. I don’t think (s)he deserves your aggressive insults. You discredit yourself that way.
Pa-Guano’s arguments may well be ‘closely*’ reasoned but they are not TRUTHFULLY reasoned.
(*What the hell does ‘close reasoning’ mean ?).
Anyone who has done even a modicum of research on the JFK coup d’etat, will see that Pa-Guano is telling bald faced lies.
Jonny, you have discredited yourself by suggesting that Pa-Guano has posted anything of substance.
It is not aggressively insulting to call out someone who is repeating the distortions and untruths of the Warren Commission and the official USG narrative.
For you NOT to be calling it out Jonny, singles you out as a coward.
I do not care to enter the rest of the argument about what happened or didn’t, I am simply telling you that your application of Newton’s laws is incorrect as regards momentum. If you are postulating an explosion (from an explosive round or phase change) then that is different, but you are wrong about momentum.
I do not know your level of education. I am an Engineer and do this sort of stuff for a living. Draw a free body diagram, if you know how to.
I would note that physiologists have postulated a muscular reaction, but I am not commenting about that or the driver’s acceleration of the vehicle, just momentum from the round, frangible or not.
By the way, elasticity has to do with the amount of momentum transferred, not whether momentum is transferred.
An elastic collision is an encounter (collision) between two bodies in which the total kinetic energy of the two bodies remains the same and there is no net conversion of kinetic energy into other forms such as heat, noise, or potential energy. Both momentum and kinetic energy are conserved quantities in elastic collisions.
The collision of a frangible 5.56 mm x 45 round with the back of JFK’s head is NOT elastic. The bullet penetrates the back of the skull and then immediately disintegrates inside the brain cavity. Prior to impact the kinetic energy of the bullet is in the form of motion at velocity V. After impact that kinetic energy is largely converted to heat and pressure in the brain cavity.
Furthermore the Secret Service driver of JFK’s limo accelerated causing a centrifugal force to also be applied to JFK’s head.
Try again?
I didn’t say it was elastic, I said that an interaction between two bodies does not have to be elastic for momentum to be transferred. You need to read more carefully.
Centrifugal force is germane to rotational momentum, not linear. You are out of your element.
I’m done.
Jack Ruby, “made man” and Mafia boss of Dallas, was ordered by the capo di tutti capi to shoot Oswald as an improvised Plan C. Plan A was to shoot Oswald on the bus when he was on his way from the Texas Book depository to his rooming house to change clothes and proceed with his further instructions. He got off the bus and took a cab because the bus was stuck in traffic. The cops got on the bus a few minutes later with guns drawn prepared to shoot him dead. (A planted “witness,” who knew Oswald, was there, on the bus, prepared to identify him as a foreign language speaking agent to the police). Because of Oswald’s unprogrammed move of getting off the stalled bus and taking a cab, the cops just missed him. Plan A, “kill the patsy immediately,” failed.
That led to Plan B. Tippit was executed by two government agents to further implicate Oswald while Oswald was following his instructions by being driven by fake cops to the alley behind the movie theater. (He was driven by fake cops in a fake police car to a) make sure he was there in place, and b), to make sure that no one saw him on the way to the theater creating an alibi for the shooting of Tippit). Plan B was to shoot Oswald in the theater. There were many cops, detectives, state prosecutors, and FBI who answered the call that someone entered the theater without paying the $1.25. But when the cops tried to shoot Oswald they did it by grabbing his own gun instead of using theirs. Oswald had been given a revolver in the Texas Movie Theater by a contact (while the cops planted a holster on his bed at the rooming house); that revolver that Oswald was given (Tippit was shot with automatics) had a bent firing pin; Oswald put it in his pocket or in his belt; the cops tried to shoot him with that gun, ostensibly his own, but all that happened was a “click” that could be heard in the theater. They arrested him instead, and that left plan C.
Ruby was ordered to do his mafia sworn duty: carry out orders. We don’t know what plan D, E, and F, would have looked like, since plan C was successful. (PS: Oswald shot no one. He actually carried curtain rods to work which would have proved his innocence. His role was as a decoy for the real shooters. You may have heard of the Daltex building and the grassy knoll? He did not know until the reporters told him that he was the designated patsy for the assassination. But there were other potential patsies; millions of them. Where were you?
Just yesterday I saw a very interesting video about central banks and banks in general. If you wanna know things truly, follow the money, as they say!
So here is what Kennedy did and nobody after him dared to do (video starts at the right moment 28:36, watch about a minute or two)
We now know that Oswald had an iron clad alibi–from the latest released interviews–that the Warren Commission had on file but chose to ignore.
Oswald went down to the second floor of the Texas School Book Depository to get a soda.
When he got there he realized he did not have the correct change for the soda machine.
He walked to the adjacent office and asked a lady who worked there for change for a dollar.
She reached into her purse and put his dollar in her purse–opened up her change purse, and counted out a dollar’s worth of change.
She then was in the process of handing the change to Oswald.
At that exact moment there were three loud bangs outside the window.
Everyone in the office looked out the window to see what had happened.
Oswald then took the change to the break room, bought a soda and started drinking it.
That is where he was found when a policeman entered the building and break room.
There were several witnesses.
another fred wrote:
1. The “rest of the argument” that you don’t care to enter involves the system of interest—-in this case the collision of a frangible bullet traveling at about 2800 ft/sec into JFK’s head moving at about 15 ft/sec in the limo.
2. The oft made claim is that only a bullet fired by a shooter from the front would have caused JFK’s head to move backward. I simply doubt that an examination of the forces involved ON THE SYSTEM would necessarily prove this.
another fred wrote:
3. This is exactly what I’ve been postulating. Surely it was clear from my previous explanations that a bullet traveling at 2800 ft/sec penetrates the skull and then immediately disintegrates within the small confines of a closed skull is effectively an explosion. I suspect that the pressure increase in the skull would have been orders of magnitude larger than that of holding firecracker in a closed fist.
4. In any event the shock wave and bullet fragments would continue along the bullet line of travel until the shock wave hits the inside of the upper front skull, exceeds its strength and forces skull fragments, brain matter and fluid out of the skull.
5. The force of the expulsion of those skull fragments, brain matter and brain fluid out the upper front of JFK’s skull would, according to Newton’s 3rd law, apply an equal and opposite force to his head backwards and down. Newton’s Laws generally apply to forces and not directly to momentum. Force is simply the rate of change of momentum with respect to time. F = dp/dt with p being the momentum.
6. Lastly the forward acceleration of the limo after the Secret Service driver heard the shots would also have applied a rearward centrifical force to JFK’s head.
If you disagree then please cut & and paste the incorrect statements from my comment into your reply so that I know exactly where the issue lies.
Why do you have an aversion to typing “Israelis”? Do you also type “joos” instead of jews? Please use your normal handle, Anonyhole.
Whoever falsely claims that Jews consider themselves indispensable and irreplaceable and, moreover, a real enrichment, has learned nothing from history and is to be unequivocally condemned as an anti-Semite! https://www.wordnik.com/words/chutzpah
I’m not wedded to Oswald being the shooter because there is little certainty about anything. Nevertheless he made an failed assassination attempt against retired Col Edwin Walker a couple of months before Deally Plaza. A commuting buddy to the Dallas Book Depository job prior to Nov 22nd reported Oswald carrying a covered object to work that matches the size of the Carcanno rifle. Oswald was in the Book Depository on Nov 22nd before the shooting and fought capture after the assassination. And since his return to the US from Russia he appeared to have had a single-minded goal of committing some notable act against the United States preferably under the employ of the Russians or the Cubans—-neither of which appeared to want anything to do with him.
Whoever the shooter was, someone likely fired the shot that hit JFK in the back that exited the throat from high in the book depository. Examination of clothing fibers (jacket and shirt) show the fibers pointing into the wound in JFK’s back wound and out on the front collar of the shirt. Finally the wounds to Gov Connally (channel through the upper right shoulder, through the wrist and to the lower left thigh) are problematic it not from the book depostory.
No, a country does not need Jews, Communism or mass murder of millions.
What a country needs is a guy like Adolf Hitler.
another fred wrote:
Unfortunately “elasticity” is considerably relevant. Elasticity gives us a qualitative measure for the extent of the transfer of kinetic energy and momentum. Perfectly elastic and there is a complete transfer of kinetic energy and momentum; completely inelastic and there is NO transfer at all.
The collision of a frangible bullet traveling at 2800 ft/sec with JFK’s skull is near the perfectly inelastic end of the scale. The kinetic energy (and the momentum) of the bullet is almost completely transformed to heat and pressure in the skull. The transfer of momentum from the bullet to the skull is negligible.
another fred wrote:
You understood the point being made nonetheless.
I watched the full 3-hour film (see the link in post #164) From JFK to 9/11: Everything is a Rich Man’s Trick and highly recommend it.
Thanks to Truth Vigilante for posting this great film. I had not seen it.
The film is long but it’s packed with a lot of information and analysis I had not seen before — including a detail pertinent to the argument being made here by Pagano about the direction of the kill shot.
Evidently the Zapruder film was altered – I had heard about this but did not know the details. Someone deleted enough frames to hide the fact that the driver of JFK’s limousine actually stopped the car in the kill zone…which allowed a shooter hidden in the nearby storm drain to make the kill shot.
Most of the other shooters – the filmmaker claims — had missed (except for the frontal throat and the back shots which were not necessarily fatal)….If true, this means the crossfire strategy nearly failed. A white mark painted on the curb visible to the driver allowed him to know when to stop — and apparently he also received a signal from the conspicuous umbrella man on that same side of the street.
The trajectory of this shot came from lower right explains the backward and upward jerk of JFK’s head — and also the severe damage — brains and blood thrown out in all directions. By Occam’s razor this is the simplest and therefor best explanation — no need to resort to Pagano’s reasoning.
I did followed it. His name was not Rubi. His name was Rubinstein. He was aware that he had terminal cancer. He did die in prison without being questioned. Media quickly changed his name to Ruby after realization that the name indicated that he was Jewish
US now is in such bad shape economically that not even Hitler could help anymore.
Canary in the mine just died yesterday. Miners are in shock. But soon they will be running to exit.
Centrifugal force is related to circular motion. Unrestrained people or other loose objects in a vehicle will go to the rear of a vehicle when it accelerates in a straight line forward because of their inertia.
Pa-Guano, I see you’re still persisting with this PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE assertion.
Let’s embarrass you once again in front of the UR readers.
1) JFK’s throat wound was within a fraction of an inch of his Adam’s apple.
2) UR readers, sitting upright, compare the top of your shoulders to where your Adam’s apple is situated.
CLEARLY, your shoulders are situated LOWER than that part of your throat.
3) The bullet that struck Kennedy in the back, did not impact at the top of JFK’s shoulders.
It was LOWER STILL – at least 10 cm (4 inches) lower.
4) Draw a line from that part of your upper back (10cm below the top of your shoulders), to the vicinity of your Adam’s apple.
This LIAR Pa-Guano keeps insisting on this impossible trajectory because his Shin Bet handlers in Tel Aviv keep reminding him:
IF YOU TELL A BIG LIE AND YOU TELL IT OFTEN ENOUGH, THE GULLIBLE MASSES WILL SWALLOW IT.
It’s not going to work Pa-Guano. You can keep asserting that black is white and up is down all you like, but the UR readers aren’t going to buy into it.
Lastly, let’s dwell for a moment, on this statement from Pa-Guano:
UR readers, think about what Pa-Guano wrote. It’s akin to saying:
‘I’m not wedded to the idea that the sun rises in the east’.
There is NO GREY AREA in relation to whether or not Oswald was one of the numerous shooters in Dealy Plaza that day.
We know FOR CERTAIN that Oswald was not one of the shooters because:
1) He was on the second floor of the TSBD getting a soft drink (scroll up to comment # 260 from another commenter which confirms what I’d said earlier) at the time JFK was shot, and this was witnessed by other co-workers (one of whom gave Oswald change to purchase that soft drink)
2) Nitrate residue tests conducted by the Dallas Police proved Oswald had NOT fired a gun that day
3) He had no motive for killing JFK and, bad shot that Oswald was, the perpetrators of this crime would not have hired such a poor marksman to carry out the assassination – especially with a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle which even an expert marksman would have had great difficulty with in hitting the target.
…. and much more exculpatory evidence.
UR readers, you’ll notice how Pa-Guano does not respond to my video in comment # 197 featuring Dr Charles Crenshaw, a physician who witnessed the bullet wound to JFK’s throat and stated emphatically that it was an ENTRY wound.
Dr Robert McClelland, another doctor who treated JFK, said the same.
But Pa-Guano won’t address that. Pa-Guano claims he knows more about these matters than these physicians that treated countless gunshot wound victims during their careers and can tell the difference between an entry wound and an exit wound.
While I may have the technical language incorrect the point is clear.
Google:
“Gunshot-wound dynamics model for John F. Kennedy assassination” by Nicholas Nalli for a technical discussion (pdf).
Even though he makes some very dubious calculations of the spray, and, using a ballistic pendulum model, arrives at a dubious 50% more KE recoil than KE imparted by momentum loss ( I won’t belabor this point, but it is essentially impossible without a phase change), nevertheless he arrives at the conclusion that the kinematics do not explain the total motion of Kennedy’s head, to wit:
Caution: Throughout the discussion he does use the term “explosion,” but not in the sense I used (there are several meanings of the word). The word can be taken to loosely mean “the rapid release of energy”, and that sense can be applied here. Popping a balloon or an overinflated tire is an explosion in that sense. Such an explosion (balloon or tire) can only release mechanical energy that has been put in to the system. This would also apply to a pressurized human skull.
The explosion I say is necessary for the kinematics to occur as you postulate would require a phase change of a solid or liquid to a gas in a rapid, almost instantaneous “explosion”. While some cavitation behind the bullet path does occur I doubt that it is enough to account for the kinematics, but that is moot. If you say it is then you should state that if you want to make sense – warning this paper says it is NOT enough.
>According to Hornady’s article, bullets passing through glass do not tumble
That’s a dubious statement — it says:
Here ‘yaw’ means tumble.
A typical windshield is sloped (tilted) toward the rear of the vehicle; I don’t know what a typical windshield angle is, what the specific angle of the windshield on the presidential limousine was, or what the ‘angle of obliquity’ was of the shot that supposedly went thru the windshield and struck JFK in the throat — but it seems there must have been some ‘angle of obliquity’, i.e. given that the windshield tilted back, it does not seem a shot from the front could have struck the windshield at a near perpendicular angle and still hit the president in the throat.
I think any assertion that a bullet passing thru glass, especially a windshield, regardless of the angle, is less likely to tumble than a bullet transiting human tissue is not credible.
So the claim that the bullet which caused Kennedy’s throat wound, described by Parkland doctors as an entry wound (due to its small size and smooth contours), first passed thru the windshield, is to say the least problematic.
Doug Weldon mentions the possibility of a shot thru the windshield at the end of this talk:
Doug Weldon 1999 Assassination of John F. Kennedy Research Windshield
Oh, bugger off!
But, realist, the Jewish scum-bags are in charge, and that endangers us all, including non-scumbag Jews. Scum-bag Jews MUST be criticised, and decent Jews praised, as it must be with goyim. It’s basic morality.
It’s a truly ludicrous troll, this ‘Pagano’.
The word “tumble” does not appear anywhere at all in the Hornady FAQ article, “What can I expect when shooting through glass?”, nor is there any discussion about tumbling at all. If tumbling were a concern or issue when shooting bullets through glass, surely the article would have covered that aspect of it, but instead, there was nada, nothing, nichego at all about tumbling.
The article did state that lead or polymer bullets were less affected than other types of bullets when passing through glass, so I think a .30 cal. lead slug is a good candidate for the type of bullet that hit Pres. Kennedy in the throat after penetrating the windshield of his limo and leaving a hole seen by several witnesses, while creating the cone of debris witnessed by the Franzen family, which included tiny glass shards that penetrated Pres. Kennedy’s face, causing his cadaver to leak embalming fluid, but I notice you dodged all that.
Franzen family on Zapruder film
Image from The South Knoll Gunman by Alek Hidell
at Midnight Writer News
There, there Little Jonny.
It seems you’ve lost your composure after I exposed you trying to cover for the OBVIOUS liar Pa-Guano.
If you take the Bible as History, I have no quarrel with you. It ain’t worth the time.
THE WINDSHIELD
Included here is an excerpt and link about the JFK limo/windshield with photos, testimony as eyewitness accounts as to a bullet hole in the windshield shown at Parkland… also in the Zapruder film etc.
Excerpted-
“As Whitaker said in a recorded interview: “And the windshield had a bullet hole in it, coming from the outside through…it was a good, clean bullet hole, right straight through, from the front. And you can tell, when the bullet hits the windshield, like when you hit a rock or something, what happens? The back chips out and the front may just have a pinhole in it…this had a clean round hole in the front and fragmentation coming out the back.”
In an interview a few months later he added: “The hole was about 4 or 6 inches to the right of the rear view mirror [as viewed from the front]. The impact had come from the front of the windshield. If you have spent 40 years in the glass [illegible] you know which way the impact was from.”
Whitaker is far from the only witness who saw a bullet hole in the windshield. Several members of the Dallas Police, a nurse, and several doctors (and others) at Parkland Hospital noticed it when it was still parked outside while doctors were trying to save Kennedy. One motorcycle patrolman was quite specific: “There was a hole in the left front windshield…It was a hole, you could put a pencil through it…you could take a regular standard writing pencil…and stick [it] through there.”
Thomas Lipscomb: Hidden In Plain Sight
https://emeralddb3.substack.com/p/thomas-lipscomb-hidden-in-plain-sight?utm_source=url&s=r
ANOTHER MOMENT WITH CALVIN AND HOBBES-
And thus Calvin pleaded with Hobbes that there were no eyewitnesses… nobody actually saw Oswald pull the trigger and blow Kennedy’s head off. Calvin argued ballistics and asked… “Why would Oswald risk his job at the book depository?”
But Hobbes would have none of it. The planning, the workmanship, details that had to be known in advance and above all… Jack Ruby getting upset and passing judgment in absolutist conviction of early patriotic righteousness that Oswald acted alone. Hobbes couldn’t prove that Kennedy owed Oswald money or was playing around with his wife but knew that people didn’t go around shooting others in the head unless they had good reason to do so.
I’ve read it in several different stories including here. Also, Chuck Yeager talked about the orc pilot that was chosen to be an astronaut and who was being groomed to be the first guy on the moon but was such an incompetent pilot he washed out.
Then do something about it.
Sparkon wrote:
Perhaps this is the case, but most of the commonly used rifle calibers have difficulty passing through windshields because of their strength and slant; typically rounds glance off. And while there is damage to the inside windshield there is no distinct bullet hole in the windshield. The notion that the bullet wound to JFK’s throat came from the front is hardly definitive.
Sparkon wrote;
The Parkland Memorial doctors were given no time to investigate; the ONLY job the Secret Service detail allowed was an attempt at saving/stabilizing JFK. They were never permitted to do an autopsy after JFK expired or conduct a wound channel analysis. The Dallas doctors never even examined JFK’s back. The speculation by one or more of the Dallas doctors that the front throat wound was the bullet entry point was, at best, speculation.
Furthermore the front throat wound would have looked more like a typical exit wound—larger, with torn, ragged edges—except that JFK’s neck was surrounded by and restrained by his buttoned shirt collar. As a result Kennedy’s skin stretched as the bullet pushed through, back to front, from the inside—but only until it was tight against the collar. At that point the bullet punctured the skin, leaving a neat, clean hole, much like a sharp stick would when passing through a taut rubber sheet. The back wound—-found by Hume to be just below the nape of the neck—had the appearance of a typical entry wound.
Sparkon provided quotes from the official Bethesda autopsy:
Humes actually described the location of the bullet wound in the back as being 5 1/2 inches [laterally] from the tip of the right shoulder and 5 1/2 inches below the right mastoid process. This put the back bullet wound just below the nape of the neck and just to the right of the spine. In 1978 the House Subcommittee’s Assassination investigation had realistic paintings made of the President’s wounds directly from the autopsy photos and also went to great lengths to make sure the photographs were not fakes and had not been altered. The wound in JFK’s back was exactly where Humes described it.
And as I pointed out in a previous comment an FBI analysis of JFK’s shirt showed the fibers around the bullet hole in the back pointing into the wound while the fibers in the front collar pointing out.
Sparkon provided quotes from the official Bethesda autopsy:
It’s not clear what this proves if anything. When Humes received the body for autopsy at Behesda Naval he was unaware of a bullet wound to the throat because all he could see was evidence that a tracheotomy had been performed to JFK’s throat. The back wound clearly looked like an entry wound to Humes but he was confused when he could feel the end of the bullet path with his finger.
Later on in the autopsy word was passed to the Bethesda autopsy staff that a bullet had been recovered at the Parkland Hospital in Dallas. Humes immediately jumped to the conclusion that the reason the bullet path in JFK’s back was less than the length of his finger was that bullet penetration was shallow and the bullet worked its way out while undergoing treatment in Dallas. In any event Humes did no dissection of the back wound to confirm his hasty conclusion. Dr Finck later reported that Bethesda Naval doctors were ordered not to perform bullet tracking procedures. Finally it wasn’t until the next morning, long after the autopsy was finished at Bethesda that Humes talked to Dr Perry in Dallas and learned of the gunshot wound beneath JFK’s Adam’s apple. This radically altered all the hasty conclusions Humes had jumped to during the autopsy.
What about the issue of Hume’s observation of the shallow back wound channel heading downward at a 45-60 degree angle? The bullet’s true channel may have been obscured by the fact that, in death, JFK’s back muscles were completely relaxed. And Kennedy’s face down position on the autopsy table bore little resemblence to his position when the bullet struck: that is, at the time of the shot, JFK’s right arm was raised, thereby stretching the muscles and tissue of the upper back. In death these muscles eased back into their normal position and may well have obscured or distorted the trajectory. The bottom line is that no bullet tracking procedure was ever performed on JFK’s body?
One wonders, then, where Sparkon derives his confident certainty. Or how Sparkon thinks any of this confirms that the throat wound was fired from the front? And even if we assume a front shot, where in Deally Plaza was there a vantage point to have fired such a shot at such an angle? And what caliber bullet would have successfully penetrated a slanting windshield glass of the 1960s.
The more thorny issue for Sparkon is how, exactly, he explains the three bullet wounds to Gov. Connally.
Sparkon provided from the official Bethesda autopsy:
Since there is absolutely no evidence that JFK’s head wounds could have come from the Book Depository this clearly requires a second shooter, from a different location using a completely different rifle round. The fact that there were numerous metal fragments found throughout JFK brain matter and embedded to the inside of JFK’s skull indicates a frangible round. Oswald’s Carcano rifle was firing FMJ.
Sparkon wrote:
The argument from authority is among the weakest of arguments. Everyone, from the beginning, including all the researchers, have been operating from imperfect and missing evidence. Consensus is not equivalent to truth.
Sparkon wrote:
If we assume that the back wound is the exit wound. And assume the back wound is correctly located by Dr Boswell’s Bethesda autopsy diagram (which even he denied)—-that is, well below the nape of JFK’s neck then the bullet path from the front necessarily would have been very steep—-likely 45 degrees or greater. If the shooter wasn’t standing on the hood of JFK’s limo what location in front of the motorcade would have afforded such a shooting platform? What evidence is there for such a shooter?
But of course this isn’t necessary. Dr Humes report showed the entry hole in the back to be just below the nape of the neck and just to the right of the spine. This was confirmed by the 1978 House Committee for assassinations who had access to the autopsy photos. And the FBI examination of JFK’s shirt fibers showed that the fibers pointed into the wound in the back of the shirt and pointed out in the front collar. The fact that the holes in JFK’s jacket and shirt are lower than the nape of the neck is explained simply by JFK having raised his right hand (and shoulder?) just prior to the neck shot.
Given these set of facts a rear shot from the 6th floor Book Depository is more than plausible. Witnesses put Oswald in the building before the shooting and his rifle with at least two recently spent casing found in the book depository room. Oswald made an unsuccessful assassination attempt against retired Col. Edwin Walker in Texas just 2 months prior to JFK’s assassination. Oswald had wished to make some notable act against the United States since he returned from Russia. Means, motive and opportunity. It simply doesn’t get any better than that.
“Jewish forgiveness,” a champion oxymoron.
T-V,
Roger Craig was an American hero, in my opinion. One of the very few. I will check out your video of Lynn Margulis. I didn’t know about her “untimely” death. I keep telling my lady friend (my ex-wife) that they need to build a museum which would contain exhibits of all the prominent people who had met untimely or suspicious deaths here in the USA in the 20th and 21st centuries. They would need a building the size of a Walmart Supercenter and that building would not even be large enough to house all the exhibits.
Get “cutting” on those books by Antony Sutton, Ph.D. They are very worthwhile and he obtained most of his information right out of U.S. government sources!
Pagano, you are so full of it I can see why some have dubbed you pa – guano. The slur fits.
Speculation? Nonsense. Dr Crenshaw knew an entry would when he saw one — after treating umpteen gun shot wounds at Parkland. Same for the other doctors. Later, when asked why he didn’t speak out sooner, Crenshaw said it was intimidation.
Your theory of exploding bullets in reverse is refuted in the film: From JFK to 9/11. See my post # 267 for the details. The key is understanding why the CIA (or someone) altered the Zapruder film: to hide the fact the driver of the presidential limo slowed down to nearly a stop. This allowed the shooter hidden in the storm drain to blow Kennedy’s head apart. The shot came from the lower right which explains why JFK’s head jerked as it did. It wasn’t an exploding bullet.
Occam’s razor applies here.
Truth Vigilante posted the link to the film in post # 164.
Pa-Guano writes:
NO serious/objective researcher asserts that the wound to JFK’s back was an exit wound and no serious researcher suggests that the wound to JFK’s throat is related to the wound in his back.
They were TWO SEPARATE BULLETS fired by TWO SEPARATE SHOOTERS.
The wound in JFK’s back was an ENTRY wound, possibly fired by one of the shooters perched on the Dal-Tex building, but more likely to have been the handiwork of LBJ’s personal hitman Malcolm ‘Mac’ Wallace in the TSBD (36 sec video below):
Meanwhile, your commentary Mr Pa-Guano, is rife with false asertions as made in the official USG narrative and Warren Commission. They demonstrate that you’ve been too lazy to do any independent research of your own.
The bullet that struck JFK in the throat was an obvious ENTRY wound. After piercing the windscreen of JFK’s vehicle (seeing as it was fired from someone directly in FRONT of JFK’s limousine – quite likely from the vicinity of the triple underpass) and losing much momentum, it lodged in JFK’s throat and hence no exit wound.
Conveniently for the perpetrators of the assassination, this bullet (and the bullet that lodged in JFK’s back) were never found.
Because if they were found, ballistics would have identified them as coming from differing rifles and perhaps even differing calibre/weaponry.
Interested UR readers should scroll up my comment # 198 and watch the 2 mins of the video from 7:00 – 9:00 to learn that the rifle that Malcolm Wallace used was POSITIVELY IDENTIFIED as a 7.65 mm Mauser.
Of course Officer Roger Craig and the other Dallas police there who witnessed this Mauser being identified, were told to STFU (likely by their superior, the corrupt Dallas County Sheriff ‘Bill’ Decker), or risk the consequences.
The Mauser was a far more accurate rifle than the Manllicher-Carcano that Oswald was alleged to have fired.
While watching that video from comment # 198, be sure to also watch the few seconds from 5:50 – 6:15 where Officer Roger Craig identifies the the three spent shells that would later be alleged to have been fired by Oswald using his Mannlicher-Carcano.
In Roger Craig’s own words:
What are the chances that said spent cartridges, after being ejected in a random manner, would fall on the ground and land in NEAT ALIGNMENT ?
Of course they would not. These spent Carcano shells were PLANTED THERE to implicate Oswald – because Oswald owned a Carcano, not a Mauser.
Gaffney wrote:
Beyond the fact that ad hominem statements violate Unz’s posting policy this isn’t a reasoned argument but name calling. I’m not claiming certainty; I simply suggest that the evidence is not nearly so complete and unequivocal as you and the authorities you blindly follow claim.
Gaffney wrote:
There is no denying that the throat wound should have been larger and more jagged for the typical exit wound of a FMJ round, IF the conditions were typical.
1. JFK’s collar was buttoned up which would have restrained the skin of his neck had the bullet come from behind causing less damage to the exit wound.
2. The Parkland doctors never examined JFK’s back. The bullet hole in JFK’s back ALSO had all the appearance of an entry wound. This would have caused Crenshaw to have less certainty about the throat wound and he would have conducted FURTHER INVESTIGATION.
3. Parkland doctors were not permitted to perform an autopsy or bullet trace procedures. These would have confirmed or DENIED their initial conclusions about the throat wound.
4. The FBI analysis of JFK’s shirt found that the fibers around the bullet hole in the back of the shirt pointed INTO the wound and the fibers in the front collar pointed away from the bullet wound. This contradicts Crenhaw.
5. While there is evidence of a strike to the inside of JFK’s limo windshield there is no bullet hole in the windshield.
So what we have here is you relying on the authority of others rather than thinking for yourself. And/or you allowing the theory of multiple Jew assassins to dictate what evidence will be seen and which will be ignored.
Concerning JFK’s head shot—–IT COULD NOT HAVE COME FROM THE BOOK DEPOSITORY AND IT WAS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CALIBER AND TYPE OF ROUND. If this can be pinned on Ben Gurion or Lansky then so be it. But let’s see the evidence.
Gaffney wrote:
Unfortunately I didn’t claim an “exploding” bullet was used. I suggested that a frangible bullet was used. A round commonly found in the 5.56mm x 45 round fired from an M-16 or AR-15. This round is designed to penetrate and then immediately disintegrate.
Here’s the “details” in Gaffney’s Comment 267:
1. The problem with the “cross fire” theory is that there are few, if any, witness statements putting particular shooters at particular places in Deally Plaza with firearms in their hands. I’m not dismissing the possibility, only that there is little evidence for it. The acoustic evidence (where did witnesses think the shots came from with their ears) is at best equivocal; particularly since the shots rang out in rapid succession.
2. Your evidence that the Secret Service agent driver of JFK’s limo actually came to a stop to give multiple assassins an easier shot is conveniently absent. This is a plausible theory but NOT evidence.
3. I wouldn’t necessarily discount “umbrella man” as providing signals to multiple assassins. Unfortunately, even if true, this fact doesn’t lead to how many assassins were in place, how many actually fired, what were their locations was within Deally Plaza, what were their motives or what caliber rifles were used.
4. The large skull wound at the top right of JFK’s skull could have come from two different directions. A shooter facing the motorcade, at/near ground level and from the shooter’s point of view to the right of JFK’s limo as it approached him. Or a shooter from behind JFK’s limo, also at/near ground level but from the shooter’s point of view to the left of JFK. Did any witneses put shooters at either of the those locations? The front positioned shooter had almost no cover and likely would have been directly viewed by the police and spectators standing on the overpass. Likewise the shooter from behind should have been seen. Where is the evidence for either?
5. Assuming that the head shot came from the front is not, alone, evidence that the bullet “pushed” JFK’s head back. The collision between the bullet and his skull was NOT an elastic collision like that between two billiard balls. Theorizing the front shooter used the storm drain as a firing position is not the same as having a witness place a shooter there.
6. Finally the numerous bullet fragments found by the Bethesda Naval staff particularly those embedded in the inside of parts of JFK’s skull is compelling evidence that the round fired at JFK’s head was frangible. This was likely NOT a FMJ bullet.
7. I’m still waiting for the explanation of where all the shooters were to explain the wounds to Gov Connally’s shoulder, wrist and leg.
You make the gross errors of presuming that a theory and a plausible explanation is the truth of events.
Truth Vigilante wrote:
1. Whether any researcher was objective is doubtful. Most of them had preconceived notions about motive which drove their investigations. Consensus is not a method for arriving at the objective truth. In many forensic and scientific investigations the consensus view turns out to be plausible but FALSE. The truth of an event is often illusive.
2. Most are willing to accept Dr Crenshaw’s (Parkland Memorial) hasty conclusion that the front throat shot was an entry wound, while they disregard Dr Humes’s observation that the back wound was an entry wound. If Dr. Crenshaw at Parkland had known of the back wound (which he didn’t) his conclusion might have been less hasty. And by the time Humes got the body at Bethesda Naval the throat wound was so altered by the Parkland Memorial tracheotomy he didn’t even recognize it as a bullet wound.
3. So many shooters have been introduced by your “objective” researchers yet they produce few, if any, confirmatory witnesses or evidence. How many shooters were responsible for the three wounds in Gov Connally and where are the witnesses for those shooters? There are so many proposed shooters that witnesses at Deally Plaza should have been tripping over them.
4. If JFK’s back wound AND the throat wound were entry wounds where are the exist wounds? And since NO bullet trace procedures were performed at Parkland Memorial or Bethesda Naval where’s the evidence. Where did these TWO DIFFERENT bullets end up? This is evidence-free story telling. The FBI analysis of JFK’s shirt found that the fibers around the bullet hole in the back of the shirt pointed INTO the wound and the fibers in the front collar pointed away from the bullet wound. This contradicts Crenhaw and the notion that both wounds were entry wounds.
Truth Vigilante wrote:
1. Again this was a hasty conclusion made by one or more of the doctors at Parkland. Unfortunately they were all unaware of the back wound which according to Dr. Humes (Bethesda Naval) AND the 1978 House Committee on Assassinations had all the appearances of an entry wound. This would have introduced considerable doubt in the minds of the Parkland doctors that could only have been resolved with further investigation and bullet channel analysis. Neither of which the Parkland doctors were allowed to do.
2. The FBI analysis of JFK’s shirt found that the fibers around the bullet hole in the back of the shirt pointed INTO the wound and the fibers in the front collar pointed away from the bullet wound. This contradicts the claim that both wounds were entry wounds.
Truth Vigilante wrote:
1. While there is windshield damage to JFK’s limo there is NO bullet hole.
2. The claim that the back wound and throat wounds were entry with no exit means two bullets should easily have been found by xray and retrieved—neither are available as evidence. And no wound channel procedure was conducted to prove these claims. This is mere unsupported speculation.
Truth Vigilante wrote:
This is pure unadulterated story telling. The rest of Truth Vigilante’s comment is more of the same evidence free story telling.
Pagano says there is no evidence for a crossfire. My reaction: b.s.
I submit the Zapruder film is important evidence. It was altered to conceal the fact the driver slowed the limo down almost to a stop. This was against Secret Service protocol and is suspicious for this reason — especially so given the alteration of evidence. The slowdown allowed one final shooter to make the kill shot.
I suggest you watch the 3 hour film cited above. From JFK to 9/11.
We all have heard that the shooter on the grassy knoll made the kill shot to JFK’s head. However, the film maker claims the shooter on the knoll missed and hit the grass across the road. Watch the film. It’s well done — except at the very end.
Oh, OK, this is the part where everybody gets comically obsessed with the minutiae of ballistics, permitting Mockingbird media apparatchiks to jeer at these conspiracy nuts.
When all you need to know is, the US government falsified JFK’s autopsy. There is only one explanation for that. State responsibility. CIA killed JFK. Because CIA’s arbitrary power puts them in charge.
Everything else is Simon Says for CIA.
Pa-Guano, the B.S from you just never stops, does it ?
You write:
The throat and back wounds to JFK (both entry wounds), are NOT the consensus belief.
The fact is, the Zionist Usury Banking Cartel (aka ZOG) that killed JFK, HAVE A LOT RIDING on maintaining the myth of the official USG/Warren Commission narrative that you also propagate Mr Guano.
ZOG has multiples of U.S GDP in financial wherewithal, with the ability to print/digitally conjure up scores of trillions more through their ownership and control the U.S Federal Reserve and other western central banks.
THEY HAVE NOT BEEN SITTING ON THEIR HANDS FOR THE LAST SIXTY YEARS WHILE TRUTH-SEEKERS PROBE INTO THE EVIDENCE EXPOSING THAT DEPRAVED INTERNATIONAL JEWRY KILLED JFK.
ZOG owns the overwhelming bulk of the western MSM, controls all the major book publishing houses and has been busy these last 60 years putting out books, TV documentaries and You Tube videos (all very professionally made – as you would expect of an entity that has countless trillions at their disposal and the Hollywood movie industry in their pocket to draw upon), that propagate the fake Warren Commission narrative on the JFK coup d’etat that you’ve lapped up Guano without critical analysis.
Simply put, seeing as ZOG owned the means of information dissemination, THE MAJORITY OF BOOKS/VIDEOS/YOU TUBE CLIPS etc are propagating YOUR B.S theory on how the JFK assassination transpired.
In other words, the honest JFK researchers are IN THE MINORITY, and thus a long way from the consensus opinion – if we were to just go by the sheer volume of material out there on the JFK coup d’etat (seeing as most of it is intended to mislead).
Pa-Guano also says:
First of all, Dr Humes was a corrupt POS, PURPOSELY CHOSEN FOR HIS LACK OF SCRUPLES and paid by his Zio controllers to write statements that were in accord with the bogus USG account of the assassination.
NO ONE with any integrity ever quotes the findings from this liar Dr Humes, UNLESS THEY ARE AGENTS OF ZOG themselves.
Dr Humes was the LEAST QUALIFIED PERSON one could choose to do the autopsy on JFK.
How do I know that, you ask ?
I suggest you read the following article:
https://smashinginterviews.com/interviews/scientists/dr-cyril-wecht-interview-famous-forensic-pathologist-on-jfk-jonbenet-ramsey-and-o-j-simpson
From the article which features an interview with the highly acclaimed Dr Cyril Wecht (run that name through You Tube and see tons of interviews where he blows the official case apart), we have this excerpt:
Did you absorb that Pa-Guano ? This dick had NEVER done an autopsy before, yet he was entrusted with arguably the most important autopsy in all of human history.
Getting back to the doctors at Parkland hospital Dallas that treated JFK, you make it out like Dr Crenshaw was the ONLY doctor came to this ‘hasty conclusion’ that the bullet wound to JFK’s throat was an entry wound.
I told you before that Dr Robert McClelland said the same thing and so did Dr Malcolm Perry*.
EVERY EFF’n DOCTOR THAT TREATED JFK SAID IT WAS AN ENTRY WOUND.
Not based on a quick glance lasting a second or two but on an extended and thorough examination of JFK’s throat.
(*Dr Perry, after being subject to intimidation/threats against his family etc, from those that orchestrated the murder, changed his official position from the throat wound being a point of entry).
All the other doctors (Crenshaw, McClelland etc) were also intimidated to STFU and they did exactly that for the next 30 years.
But the conscience of Crenshaw and McClelland got the better of them and hence the videos of them speaking out that came out in the 1990’s.
The 4 min video below features White House Assistant Pres Secretary Malcolm Kilduff.
What he had to say was made AFTER consultation with THE ENTIRETY OF THE PHYSICIANS that were treating JFK and they were emphatic as to the throat wound being an entry wound.
Just prior to the three minute mark Kilduff shows reporters from what direction said head and throat shots came from:
It looks like Pagano is at the very least a professional disruptor, TV.
Agit prop a recognised judeo bolshevik tactic.
Maybe just a headcase, who knows.
Possible, but unlikely.
Same thing on one E. Michael Jones thread re RCC.
A newcomer in with both feet with the standard narrative.
Loud, verbose, persistent, aggressive … hmm …
Wishing to bring discussion to minutiae … reductio ad absurdum is standard method to discredit Truth movement.
They still are doing it …
Main question is WHO, not HOW so much.
Look, I don’t know if he’s a liar, or you’re a liar, or either of you are sincerely right or wrong. I haven’t got enough information on the subject. I read about a lot of controversial subjects, but there’s so many of them, I don’t find the time to go deeply into any. The exchange between yourself and the other guy I found interesting, again without knowing enough to know whom to believe. So I’m not a “coward” by failing to call him out. I don’t even know if he’s right. You both impressed me in the exchange of views as being sincere in your beliefs, although I may well be wrong. Now I don’t even remember exactly what the topic was. I read this and some other sites to get information that has otherwise been occulted. My objection is to your name calling and aggressive hostility. How is any agreement possible, or learning, if you make a habit of speaking to people like that? In any case, I don’t think you’d have the balls to repeat some of your words to anyone’s face. If you do, you must get in a lot of fights. I somehow doubt that you do. If anyone is a coward here, it’s yourself.
Truth Vigilante wrote:
This is your trademark personal attack and name calling. It is simply childish.
Truth Vigilante wrote:
But you claimed the exact opposite in your Comment #290. Here’s what you wrote:
“Consensus” means a position reached by a group (in this case the group of “serious researchers”) and NOT everyone. In this case “serious researchers” (along with you) are those who ignore or accentuate evidence which tends to show that Oswald (or someone from the Book Deposiory) did not fire the throat shot. This is evident with your assertion that Crenshaw is telling the truth while Humes is a good-for-nothing shill.
In the years shortly after Deally Plaza there weren’t many detractors of the Warren Commission but by the late 1970s that rapidly ended. Your claim that the majority of JFK assassination researchers in the last 25 years are merely regurgitating Warren Commission findings is absurd nonsense.
Most of your Comment # 295 makes your hatred of the Jews crystal clear. And also makes clear that this hatred is driving how you “color” the evidence to ensure your proper conclusion—-that the Jews did it. Motive is not evidence. This is little different from the Warren Commission who set out to prove that Oswald was the sole shooter responsible for all the shots.
You FALSELY accuse me of blindly following the Warren Commission. I have stated repeatedly that the “magic bullet” theory is bunkum and any shooter in the Book Depository could NOT be responsible for the JFK head shot. Where is the evidence that the second shooter was a Jew or hired by the Jews? Perhaps the theory is true but where is the evidence?
Truth Vigilante wrote:
First of all, Dr Humes was a corrupt POS, PURPOSELY CHOSEN FOR HIS LACK OF SCRUPLES and paid by his Zio controllers to write statements that were in accord with the bogus USG account of the assassination. NO ONE with any integrity ever quotes the findings from this liar Dr Humes, UNLESS THEY ARE AGENTS OF ZOG themselves. Dr Humes was the LEAST QUALIFIED PERSON one could choose to do the autopsy on JFK.
This is almost completely a childish personal attack and NOT a reasoned or a scientific argument. Crenshaw made a hasty decision without the slightest confirmatory evidence or the slightest bit of investigation. Nonetheless it agreed with your preconceived theory while Humes had to be vilified because his observations did NOT. This ain’t science and Crenshaw was NOT allowed to investigate the truth of his hasty conclusion. If there was a reasoned argument “you” didn’t provide it; you claimed the reasoned argument was elsewhere. Again let’s look at what you failed to address:
Unless you can explain this with something other than personal attacks and claims that the explanation is elsewhere you got nothin’. NOTHIN’ And I’m still waiting for an explanation of how many shooters it took to inflict the three bullet wounds in Gov Connally, where they were, and what caliber was used. Don’t give me url links provide the explanation in the four corners of your comment—-if you can.
It may be one of the keys, but the alterations to the Zapruder film could have been done by NPIC, the National Photographic Interpretation Center, with a little help from its friends.
Because of the alterations, relying on the Zapruder film for detailed analysis is a dicey proposition. Zapruder’s film can help us identify where and when JFK was hit in the throat and head, but the shot that inflicted JFK’s back wound escapes detection.
You should know that using an altered film to determine which way JFK’s head jerks is an exercise in futility. Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
In any case, the geometry of Pres. Kennedy’s wounds does not comport with any shot from a ground level storm drain, if you are referring to the storm drain on Elm St. However, there is another storm drain. Have you located it yet?.
https://911justicehalifax.wordpress.com/2013/02/18/top-mafia-figure-tony-gambino-implicates-vatican-and-bush-in-prior-knowledge-and-complicity-in-911-mass-murder/
The exit wound in the back of Pres. Kennedy’s skull was in its lower right quadrant, and was blown out by the shot to JFK’s right temple.
https://spartacus-educational.com/JFKSautopsy.htm
In other words, the exit wound in the back of the head was lower than the wound of entry at the temple, which necessarily puts the assassin in position above, or at a higher elevation than JFK. A shot from a ground-level storm drain would have caused a wound of entry lower than the wound of exit, and so a shot from the street level storm drain on Elm on the motorcade”s right side would have blown out the top left of JFK’s head, and not the right lower rear portion of it.
In fact, any shot from the familiar north grassy knoll area would have blown out some part of the left side of JFK’s skull, assuming Pres.Kennedy was looking straight ahead at the time.
I get the feeling that few of the commenters have bothered to do what Fiester and “Hidell” have done, and that is to line up Pres. Kennedy’s head wounds in the same way we have lined up his throat wound with the hole in the windshield at the vehicle’s location on Elm at the approximate instant JFK was hit in the throat, when he was still behind the Stemmons Freeway sign in Zapruder’s film.
But enough of this!
Conspicuous by its absence here is any interest by author Mark H. Gaffney (or anyone else!) in the roles played by Poppy Bush and Tricky Dick Nixon in the assassination of Pres. Kennedy, so while his article does a good job of pointing out LBJ’s obvious motives for wanting JFK out of the way, it’s a typical limited hang-out for the purpose of blaming Israel for the assassination, and deflecting blame and discussion away from the Secret Service, CIA, Dallas Police, FBI and other far Right-wing Americans like GHW Bush, and Richard Nixon, who both had trouble remembering where they were when JFK was killed.
Indeed, Richard M. Nixon clearly lied about having already departed Dallas before the assassination.
Were these pictures (below) taken after that “Houston oilman” was arrested in front of the Dal Tex Building? That oilman had rushed out of the Dal-Tex building in an agitated state immediately after the assassination, which drew the attention of bystanders, who pointed him out to police. The oilman was questioned, and apparently arrested by Dallas police, who put the oilman in a police car and drove off with him, only to apparently release him later with no further details available.
Trolls like guano don’t need to make sense or be honest. They simply muddy the waters, and give other trolls garbage to quote as they peddle bull-dust, too.
Yellowed and tattered (2005)
A book about Salvador Allende is causing a stir: Was the icon of the left an anti-Semite and racist?
The library of the medical school in Santiago de Chile is a haunted place. Behind the reading room, a tiny elevator rides up through several deserted floors. Among shelves of yellowed anatomy manuals and a prehistoric X-ray machine stands a glass case filled with bottles of undefinable liquids.
Next to the poison cabinet, a door secured with a padlock leads to a small room. There, a yellowed and tattered anthology is stored, including the doctoral thesis of the physician and later president Salvador Allende Gossens from 1933. The work is, it says, “public and available for anyone to see.”
The first person to actually read the work is apparently the scientist Víctor Farías, 65, who claims in a book that it exposes an icon of the left in South America and Europe as a racist and anti-Semite, as a supporter of eugenics and forced sterilization.
In doing so, the philosopher, who has taught at the Latin America Institute of Freie Universität in Berlin since 1974, has caused quite a stir – and not for the first time. In his book “Heidegger und der Nationalsozialismus” (Heidegger and National Socialism), he revealed embarrassing and previously unknown facts about the most German of German philosophers. Later, half of Chile was angry with Farías because in “The Nazis in Chile” he proved how deeply his homeland had once been influenced by Nazi ideas and Nazi emigrants.
His new book is called “Salvador Allende: Anti-Semitism and Euthanasia.” It has so far only been published in Chile and Spain and aims right into the culture of remembrance. For Salvador Allende has enjoyed the aura of victimhood among the left-wing bourgeoisie worldwide ever since he was killed in a military coup in 1973.
In Germany, too, high schools, streets and squares are named after him. The “revolutionary in a tailor-made suit” (“Frankfurter Allgemeine”) is present in many cities, much to the permanent annoyance of conservatives. And now this? The intellectual with the gentle eyes, who took his own life during the bombardment of the government palace Moneda – in reality a Nazi in disguise?
With some points of view, the young Dr. Allende was indeed close to the fascism-infected currents of the first half of the century. For example, he propagated the view that mental illness, crime and alcoholism were hereditary. Thus, his diagnosis was that homosexuality was a disease that could be cured by implanting human testicular tissue in the abdomen.
And: For Allende, southerners are incapable of moral action because of the hot climate. About Jews, referring to other research, this ominous dissertation says: “The Hebrews are characterized by certain forms of crime: Fraud, falsehood, slander, and above all usury.”
Farías retains the credit for discovering these arguably time-bound views, which do not indicate that here is a man writing who would become an admired socialist. But he goes further in his well-known swing: He chides Allende for having remained faithful to this racism and anti-Semitism for a long time, at least into the Popular Front government of President Pedro Aguirre Cerda (1939 to 1942). There he was minister of health and pushed a law for the forced sterilization of the mentally ill, which admittedly never came into force.
But it is also true that eugenics and racist ideas were part of the mainstream at many universities in Europe and America long before the Nazis seized power. In the U.S., researchers were already working with government approval on outright breeding projects at the beginning of the 20th century to seal off society against “undesirables.” Around 60,000 Americans – many of them epileptics, alcoholics and socially conspicuous members of the lower classes – were forcibly sterilized until the 1970s.
American authors such as Edwin Black (“War on the Weak”) describe that the “worldwide U.S. export of eugenics” had much appeal. Social scientists in Brazil saw the opportunity for “whitening” the population. In Sweden, eugenics was discussed as a matter of course as a means to promote public health. That is why Chile’s leading daily newspaper, the conservative “El Mercurio,” of all publications, defended the dead Allende against his biographer: “Farías conceals the historical context.”
The author in Berlin is not bothered by this. He was once a great admirer of Allende. He left Chile after the military coup in 1973 for fear of persecution, and in exile turned into a despiser of leftist revolutionary romanticism. He has the habitus of the scholar who, however, understands how to his theses powerfully for the sake of public effect.
It fits into his picture of the true Allende that in 1972 he was not prepared to extradite to Germany the Nazi criminal Walther Rauff, who had slipped into hiding in Chile. Even interventions by the Nazi hunter Simon Wiesenthal with the president did not help at that time.
Allende replied to him in a letter that he, the president, was not allowed to interfere in matters of justice. That was formally correct. For Chile’s Supreme Court had refused to extradite Rauff, who had headed the development of mobile gas chambers in the SS’s Reich Security Main Office, on the grounds of “statute of limitations.”
The response in Chile to Farías’ revelations has been moderate. There, Allende has since become a historical figure. The rehabilitation is as good as complete. The Christian Democrat-controlled governments after the Pinochet dictatorship had initially tried to silence Allende. Socialist President Ricardo Lagos, however, praised Allende as a humanist and statesman.
On the 30th anniversary of his death, an Allende Museum opened in Santiago. Since then, an Allende Foundation has administered the estate. A summary of the doctoral thesis is also available there. However, the compromising passages are missing.
Old friends of the assassinated president naturally consider the revelations to be ghouls. “Farías is engaging in a gigantic falsification of history,” claims Victor Pey, Allende’s 89-year-old companion. The spry old gentleman, a native of Spain who fled to Chile from the fascists after the civil war in the late 1930s, defends his friend on behalf of the family and the Socialist Party. Author Farías, Pey says, imputes quotes to Allende “that in fact come from other researchers. Allende was not a racist or an anti-Semite. His mother was Jewish.”
A daughter of the dead man, Isabel Allende, who is a congresswoman for the Socialist Party and is not to be confused with the world-famous writer of the same name, says tersely of the revelations, “Personally, I won’t comment on the machination.”
The author calls the accusations from the Allende circle “nonsense” and refers to the relevant passages of the doctoral thesis.
The young Allende, by the way, received only a moderate grade for his academic efforts at the time. The tattered copy yellowed unread on the shelf for years. Now interest in it has awakened immensely. The library management quickly took precautionary measures. The work may now only be read under supervision.
Little Jonny, in relation to the JFK coup d’etat, writes:
Then how could you possibly make the following stupid remark in comment # 252?:
“Pagano”‘s arguments appear to be made in good faith and fairly closely reasoned.
If you’ve been too lazy to do the necessary legwork to investigate the greatest crime of the second half of the 20th century, then how the EFF would you know if anything Pa-Guano said had any element of truth in it whatsoever ?
How the EFF would you know if his arguments were made in ‘good faith’ ?
Are you a mind reader to be able to determine that Pa-Guano is sincere when posting his B.S ?
Of course, you could direct the same question at me. And that would be fair enough.
You should never accept what anyone has to say until you’ve done the due diligence and investigated the matter for yourself and determined that what a particular individual is saying matches the known facts.
Pa-Guano’s assertions are FULL OF HOLES – as the author of this thread (Mark Gaffney) was quick to spot.
It is clear little Jonny that you have no idea what cabal of bankers runs the entirety of the western financial system or of their Talmudic DNA.
For 60 years these people have used their incalculable resources to obfuscate, confuse and deflect attention away from the fact that they perpetrated said crime (and orchestrated 9/11, murdered RFK/JFK Jr/MLK Jr/Malcolm X and much more).
People like Pa-Guano are paid sayanim in the employ of these Zio misfits that have spent much time and energy in concocting fairy tales about the JFK affair that may look plausible to the dim witted and gullible (ie: you little Jonny), but won’t fool anyone who’s done even a modicum of objective research on the matter.
The good news is that you need only read one book on the JFK affair to get up to speed.
It is ‘Final Judgement’ by Michael Collins Piper.
You can read the HTML version for free right here in UR:
https://www.unz.com/book/michael_collins_piper__final-judgment/
Get back to me little Jonny after you’ve read it. It is the benchmark on the JFK assassination – nothing else comes close.
I’m reading! I’m reading! Faack! There’s too much! Maybe I’m in the peanut gallery compared to you as far as info gathered and digested. I find my study is pretty broad, but very shallow. The only way I know I’m learning anything at all is that when I talk to most people nowadays I realize, usually, that they don’t have their facts straight and lack info in general. Anyway I’m sorry to have gotten into name-calling with you to the extent I did, little as it was. It’s really stupid, to me. I’ll make a point to read Piper’s tome.
The book of Esther is bereft of God. It is also loveless; no mention of Esther’s love for the king is made, nor does she bear him any children. What does that tell us? However, as a mythical story of political warfare by infiltrating the halls of power, Esther is a good study. No doubt that is why it is so revered by Jews to this day.
To usurp a competing tribe and secure privileges for their own, the strategy of the Jews was to weaken and sway the king. The tactics ranged from simple lies to mass murder. In other words, if effective, anything goes. For example:
– Why not set up loyal eunuchs as plotters and thereby remove one of the king’s most important shields? Then claim credit for it and have the double cross logged in the court records as a selfless, heroic act. Next, lace the King’s meal with caffeine so he is unable to sleep, then offer him to read the court records right where it is stated Mordecai rooted out the threat… Bingo. New Prime Minister.
It might have taken more than a few generations to polish the modus operandi of the court Jew, but history has shown that, with patience and unscrupulous networking, it works like a charm. (Or a hookworm.)
For a real world example of how this gets done, consider this description:
The prime target was the most important man in Britain — the son of Queen Victoria and her heir apparent, Edward, Prince of Wales, popularly known as “Bertie”…He was socially more broad minded and cosmopolitan than many other royals and became friendly with several prominent and wealthy Jews, including the Rothschilds. He also needed money to support his profligate life…
The Sassoon brothers began romancing the heir to the British throne and horse races hosted by the Rothschilds. One brother, Reuben, began accompanying the corpulent prince on his monthlong cures to lose weight in the Czech Republic. The family stocked Bertie’s favorite [weight gaining?] foods, and stayed up as late as he wanted…
*from King’s of Shanghai; two rival dynasties and the creation of modern China, by Jonathan Kaufman, 2020, pgs. 42-43.
I concur with that summation.
I’ve heard the ‘Shooter in the storm drain’ story too, but in the versions I’d heard, someone other than Roselli was said to be the shooter.
Meanwhile, Chicago Outfit mobster John Roselli may well have been involved in the JFK assassination in some capacity, and certain players wanted him silenced thereafter, it would appear.
This is how he met his demise:
Evidently, he knew ‘something’.
You might also want to take a look at my own article on the subject, which summarizes the various issues and heavily cites Piper’s seminal work, along with numerous others.
https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-jfk-assassination-part-ii-who-did-it/
One advantage is mine is relatively short, while Piper’s book runs over 300,000 words.
Thank you!
Love in the book of Esther:
“And the king loved Esther above all the women, and she obtained grace and favour in his sight more than all the virgins; so that he set the royal crown upon her head, and made her queen instead of Vashti.”
– Esther 2:17, the Bible, KJV
As Esther had only been in the royal harem 12 months it isn’t certain that there were no children. Furthermore there was no plotting until after Haman thought to kill the Jews en masse, including women and children:
“And the letters were sent by posts into all the king’s provinces, to destroy, to kill, and to cause to perish, all Jews, both young and old, little children and women, in one day, even upon the thirteenth day of the twelfth month, which is the month Adar, and to take the spoil of them for a prey.”
– Esther 3:13, the Bible, KJV
China was brought low more than anything else by female leadership. The Dowager Empress worshipped the many-handed Buddha, a type of the evil Hindu Goddess Kali. China built lavish palaces including the “naval innovation” of a stone boat – the palace with the boat also contains an enormous temple to this type of Kali. All while the western powers invaded and Japan more or less successfully modernized its military.
All that being said, it is true that it was under Queen Victoria that the UK had a Jewish prime minister in Disraeli, so there is obviously some truth to your assertion. Who was Queen Esther in this parallel, then?
Speaking of thick books, you may be interested to know that the author ‘Tombstone’ has recently authorised an English translation of his 2021 work on the Cultural Revolution, ‘The World Turned Upside Down’.
I might recommend Vladislav Zubok’s seminal recent work on the collapse of the Soviet Union as well.
I just bought a physical copy the other day and I’m quite looking forward to opening it once I’m done reading two works about Indonesian and Javanese history.
On page 645 of The Death of A President, 1967 Edition, the author reveals that JFK died from a freak accident. A Secret Service agent of limited experience prepared to fire an AR-15 automatic rifle after he perceived gunshots. A passing train had set off one, two, or three railroad torpedoes at the worst possible moment. JFK’s limo driver braked, causing the followup car to brake, causing the agent to lose his footing and fire his weapon. Everyone ran to the grassy knoll looking for a shooter, but there was no shooter. The railroad torpedoes were amplified by the acoustics of Dealey Plaza and sounded just like a bolt action rifle being fired. They emit a white puff of smoke when they explode and can easily be mistaken for a gunshot. The title of Abraham Bolden’s book, a Secret Service agent who served on JFK’s detail, is revealing: The Echo from Dealey Plaza.
Jacqueline Kennedy commissioned William Manchester to write The Death of A President.
Jacqueline Kennedy and Robert Kennedy approved the manuscript.
They are of their father, the devil, it was a liar and a murderer from the beginning, it has no Truth in it, and it’s children are the same.
Without Truth, there is no Life, and no “reality, only bizarre fantasies and delusions.
EgoMatrix–Dream of Deceit.
This world lasted less than a millisecond in Eternity.
We are the “Luciferian” consciousness that turned away from Truth, the ego pulled a bait and switch on us, and this illusury, counterfeit “world” is the result. The Truth sets us Free. The Cathars Knew.
Behold! The world! In all it’s glory! The world the Liar rules.
Jews committing suicide for their cause is not unusual. Like 9/11, for example.
Mark,
Thanks you for all the hard research you must have engaged in to produce such a detailed work. I always believed that Johnson must have had something to do with it following his disgraceful back down over the USS Liberty scandal, because that is what it was. A scandal.
The USS Liberty to me was a far more relevant occurrence than most people would consider. It gave the arrogant Israelis a clear indication that they had the US by the throat and subsequent events have shown that Johnson was a Zionist supporter down to hs bootstraps.
So 1967 was the beginning of the policy subservience that we see today with Israel running the US policies, supported by large grants of monies and weapons that have cost the taxpayers a lot over the years. And more to come.
While it continues, the USA will never be what is was. Respected and credible once but now an Israeli puppet.
An excellent article.
No he did not. The OT bible got that wrong. The king, when not drunk, loved Vashti. But because the king’s Jewish handlers were encouraging his drunkenness and lewdness they set up the fall of Vashti, who was a true queen, and a woman of dignity who did not want to be disgraced by impulsive demands egged on by perverts in the court when the king was sloshed.
Note: When Purim is celebrated and everyone is supposed to get shit faced drunk, is that really in honor of the goy king? Or is it more about mocking the king and how he was made into a fool and puppet because he made stupid decisions when inebriated? Furthermore, is the king’s “love” of Esther any kind of center point in the celebration of Purim? Of course not. That love (one-sided at best) has nothing to do with the story/fable, as told by Jews, and you know it.
Again, completely untrue, even in the version of this fable as told by the Jews. Planting Esther into the harem was central to the plot, as was her seduction of the king. As instructed, her loyalty was never to the king but to her uncle/husband Mordecai. In other words, she was a prostitute spy, not unlike that other poor girl in Joshua.
As far as Haman’s alleged intent to kill all the Jews, it makes little sense. As depicted in the fable, his hatred was focused on Mordecai. Haman did not imprison let alone kill Mordecai even with the king’s approval. So the accusation of Haman’s intent towards mass murder does not stack up. It was one of those “Saddam has weapons of mass destruction” kind of lies that justifies… Jews committing mass murder!
Parallels include Abba Kovner desire to kill six million Germans as early as the summer of 1945 when there was no way any forensic evidence could have confirmed such a figure of dead Jews. And there are many modern day Esthers, i.e. Jewish women who encourage mass murder. Madelaine Albright is one. Who would you elect?
How could the USSR have remained an ally with Hitler? They were the ones who were attacked.