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It is the opinion of most patriotic voices in Russian alt-media (remember, hardcore Russian patriots are still not allowed on mainstream media in Russia) that while the special operation in Ukraine is all well and good, there is no good explanation for why Ukraine was lost in the first place. How could the Kremlin let a country split evenly between a pro-Russia and pro-West vote for multiple election cycles suddenly, almost overnight, be turned into a hostile, armed to the teeth Israel on the border of the greater Slavic world?

It may be hard to believe, but Russian used to be the unopposed majority language in Ukraine. Not only did most people speak Russian, but most city people didn’t know Ukrainian or thought it was simply a quaint provincial dialect of country bumpkins. The number of Ukrainian speakers declines even more when you factor in that many so-called Ukrainian-speakers were actually “surzhik” speakers — which is a Russian/Ukrainian mixed vernacular. Me, a Russian-speaker, I can easily understand surzhik without skipping a beat. But propa’ Western Ukrainian, well, I have to really concentrate and hold my breath while I listen to make any sense of it.

Multiple polls in Ukraine showed a majority favorable opinion of Russians and a shared sentiment of belonging to one civilization. Even now, the numbers aren’t bad, but we will have to see how many Ukrainians harden or drift towards more anti-Russian positions as a result of a protracted conflict on their territory.

So where are we now? Well, tens of thousands of Ukrainians, who by all rights ought to be pointing their rifles at NATO, are now hunkered down in Donbass instead, and about to be shelled repeatedly into surrender or oblivion by the Russian forces.

Even before the first shot was fired, the situation that had developed in Ukraine following the coup d’etat of 2014 can only be characterized as a complete, abject and miserable failure of Russian foreign policy. And it only got worse year after year following the seizure of power and the beginning of the anti-terrorist operation in the Donbass. Here, the failure is inexcusable, but easily explainable. The Kremlin, in its hard-boiled cynicism, thought that they could just bribe politicians and oligarchs in Ukraine to keep the situation from getting too out of control. They never switched strategies and they never really did anything to neutralize the West’s far more effective color revolution + mass propaganda strategy. Incompetent corrupt fools like Victor Medvechuk were tasked with keeping a Russian toehold in Ukraine.

You must have heard about Medvechuk, yes? He was paraded around in chains recently by the Ukrainian secret police and plastered all over social media:

He was no doubt captured days after the beginning of the operation and only recently brought out by the SBU as a propaganda piece and a bargaining chip in prisoner negotiations.

Now, Victor’s been around for awhile, serving under Leonid Kuchma, who everyone knows was an ardent supporter of Russia and then Victor Yanukovich, another ardent Russian nationalist and die-hard patriot. SARCASM ALERT — SARCASM DETECTED.

I should warn you, I can’t help but slather the sarcasm onto my commentary when it comes to the “pro-Russia” faction in Ukraine, so keep an eye out for it as we move along. But sarcasm aside for now, let me state things plainly: this guy was your typical sleazy Eastern European political apparatchik and a deal-fixer who may or may not have been close to Putin (his daughter was baptized by Putin, making her his goddaughter, but so what). Most importantly, he was paid millions to be of use to Russia in Ukraine. He used to be a part of Yanukovich’s operation and he eventually bankrolled and ran the post-Yanukovich “Opposition Party — For Life” bloc, which eventually put up Yuriy Boyko as their “pro-Russia” candidate in the latest elections that Zelensky handily won.

Now, this was well and truly a big-brain move. Medvechuk and friends chose a man who had been around the cesspit that was Ukrainian politics for almost two decades — a man with several corruption and embezzlement scandals under his belt from his time managing the quasi-state oil company Naftogaz and the Fuel and Energy Ministry of Ukraine and a physiognomy that just screams SLEAZY in all-caps to represent them and the pro-Russia position in Ukraine.

10/10 optics, what else can I say?

Back in the day, when tensions with Russia were not as high, I remember what a big scandal it was when then President Yanukovich stepped in and quashed the anti-corruption investigation of his minister and close ally Boyko. Most Ukrainians were somewhat united in their exasperation at the never-ending corruption surrounding literally all of the post-Soviet Ukrainian administrations and the nonstop looting that was going on at the time. The constant corruption was one of the driving forces of the Orange Revolution and the ascent of Viktor Yushenko and his pro-NATO, anti-Russia government and then again with Euromaidan and the calls for Yanukovich to step down. At the time, the main narrative that fueled these color revolutions was the anti-corruption platform. This was popular at the time. The pro-Western faction managed to conflate being “pro-Russia” (or at least not being explicitly anti-Russian) with being corrupt. Being pro-West and Liberal came to mean standing for a corruption-less Ukraine free of the control of Russian oligarchs and the communist-era leftover nomenklatura.

So, to reiterate and make my point clear: the “pro-Russian” politicians were not really pro-Russian, but were, at a minimum, willing to not rock the boat with Russia. The pro-Westerners successfully created the association of “pro-Russia = pro-corruption” and used this propaganda to rally Ukrainians at the polls and on the level of street politics. The “pro-Russians” were indeed corrupt. But we all know that the West is not any less corrupt and that the people in the pro-West camp looted the country as thoroughly if not more than the “pro-Russian” people.

By the way, to my eternal shame, in my youthful NPC naiveté, I even wore one of those orange hats that they handed out at the maidan to show my support for the good Victor against the bad one. Orange man good, I suppose.

But patriotic circles in Russia are not exactly heart-broken by the news that Medvechuk was taken captive by Zelensky. The general sentiment appears to be that Zelensky has done Russia a favor by getting rid of an incompetent oligarch that lost millions of Russian rubles and an entire country through his counter-productive efforts. But, the nonchalance of the Russian public notwithstanding, his arrest is sort of, kind of a big deal. After all, Medvechuk is a billionaire that ran several TV stations that criticized the Kiev government up until Zelensky banned them following his patron and master Igor Kholomoisky’s direct orders that he do so, effectively granting Kholomoisky a monopoly over all media in Ukraine. It is worth pointing out that despite this party supposedly being “pro-Russian” they condemned the Russian special operation in Ukraine in early March. Some pundits have argued that this was simply to outmaneuver the Kiev government and another example of the much-vaunted hyper-dimensional 5D chess that we’ve heard so much about in recent years on display yet again. But either way, it did literally nothing but score another propaganda blow against Russia before Zelensky’s regime dissolved and disbanded the party in the Rada anyway. One could argue that there was nothing that they could do. I would agree that doing literally nothing at all would have done more to help and promote Russia and Russians’ interest in Ukraine.

As an aside, the “pro-Russia” faction in Ukraine did in fact have many shady dealings with the West. The only difference was that they seemed to prefer making deals and rubbing shoulders with Republicans, not Democrats. At this point, everyone knows that prominent Democrat politicians have been looting the Ukraine with the help of their pro-West allies in the government. It is funny to think that the roles used to be reversed once upon a time.

Russia’s own, personal efforts in Ukraine, however, were just as poor, if not worse than the non-existent efforts of the so-called “pro-Russia” parties in Ukraine. This is quite clear when we look at, say, the virtually non-existent propaganda effort used to deal with the ever-deepening crisis that resulted from Euromaidan.

Question: what was the Russian message to the Ukrainian people over these difficult years? Does anyone know?

I suppose the most logical and easiest message to send would be “we’re one people of one blood and our future belongs together, one way or another.” But, apart from Putin’s occasional video-message appeals which state just that, this hasn’t been the position of the Russian government and her official spokespeople. They’ve instead insisted on constantly referring to Ukraine as a “buffer state” and opining about the sanctity of arbitrarily drawn squiggly lines on the map.

Heart-warming stuff.

Even I, an ardent pro-Russia shill, just assumed that Russia had abandoned and written off Ukraine because of the messaging coming out from within the Presidential Administration. The intervention took me completely by surprise — and not just me. Dmitri Peskov, the official Kremlin spokesperson, was totally blindsided by the announcement. Literally two hours before the announcement by Putin, he was still talking about Minsk II i.e., saying the Kremlin would simply engage in more negotiations. Even the FSB chief was taken by surprise and had to be dressed down personally by Putin on stage and asked point blank if he supported the operation or not.

In between the stuttering and frantic gulping he manages to say that he more or less supports the recognition of the LNR and DNR. With administrators like these, Russia doesn’t even need enemies.

It’s worth pointing out that nobody in the patriot camp in Russia likes Peskov or understands why he still has his job — not even, apparently, Putin himself. In an interview with Megyn Kelly, Putin told said that he himself doesn’t understand why Peskov says some of the crap that he does.

But back to Ukraine.

Hell, I personally knew a few pro-Russia journalists in Kiev. I asked them if they had any help or support or even had any contact with anyone in the Russian government. Protection, money, support, a Christmas card? The answer was always a resounding, “sadly, no.” This was a conversation among friends, not an official interview, mind you. No 5D black ops chess here — they were no doubt telling the sad truth. Pro-Russian Ukrainians had very good reason to feel completely and totally abandoned by Russia for many years.

And even now, the Kremlin and its loathsome PR spokespeople claim that they are only in Ukraine temporarily, to conduct a de-nazification campaign. Not only is this claim bizarre, but what’s worse, people think they might actually mean it. So, after smashing the Ukrainian army and the volunteer battalions, they intend to do what — pull out?

Why then should anyone in Ukraine support the Russian army? So that they can receive a bullet to the head for being collaborators once they’re gone? No wonder Ukrainians are hunkering down and keeping quiet. Why support a military that won’t be there to protect you once they’ve won? After all, genius strategic feint or not, Kiev and the environs around it were abandoned. What will happen to the people there who came out waving Russian flags? A war is a great time for neighbors who envied (and stole) the roses from your garden to accuse you of being a collaborator. Don’t think that people aren’t reporting on each other right now — that’s what neighbors are best at the world over. Look at your own neighbors — can you honestly say that you can trust the Joneses to not rat you out if the secret police come knocking at some point in the near future? Were you paying attention during COVID and the hunt for the Trump Insurrectionists?

And on the Russian home-front?

Well, the patriotic block is sweating bullets that the Kremlin might actually go ahead and negotiate with Zelensky. They needn’t worry so much — Zelensky’s handlers want war down to the last Slav, so there’s no real prospects for a meaningful ceasefire. But still — it is hard to mobilize a society with such mixed messages coming from near the top. And a general mobilization might not only be desirable, but necessary in the coming months.

The point I’m driving at here is rather simple: Russia needs a new strategy and new people handling her interests in Ukraine and the near abroad. No more lazy half-measures, but smart, comprehensive propaganda and political efforts. Funding and support and protection for actual, genuine pro-Russians — it’s not hard to figure out. Most importantly, there needs to be a consistent and simple message presented to the Ukrainians. Putin himself said it well on several occasions: “we are brotherly peoples with a shared past and future.” I would add, “We will not abandon you,” for good measure.

Why Putin’s own government struggles to follow his lead is, frankly, infuriating to say the least.

(Republished from The Occidental Observer by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Levtraro says:

    Even now, the numbers aren’t bad, but we will have to see how many Ukrainians harden or drift towards more anti-Russian positions as a result of a protracted conflict on their territory.

    I suppose those 5+ million Ukies that have been received in the West as refugees (~10% of total population, and more to go) hold anti-Russian positions but will not be there to have an effect on whatever remains of Ukrainian politics post-war.

  2. Rich says:

    The Russians will create a Vichy type state in Ukraine, maybe just in the East, maybe the whole country depending on how the war goes. There’s no chance the Russians ever completely withdraw. The difficulty of holding the entire country is that the hard-core Ukrainians in the West will be able to fight a long-term insurgency against an occupying force that is unnecessary for the Russian goal of pushing Nato away from its border.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
  3. Notsofast says:

    ukraine was always in the playbook of the pnac zioneocons, this has been in the works years before richard luger and his houseboy showed up to “secure” the bioweapons labs. after the initial failed color revolution, perhaps the russians let their guard down a little, feeling they could undo any hamhanded neocon coup.

    perhaps covid opened putin’s eyes to the true intent of the 30 bioweapon labs ringing the country. half the people in lpr and dpr held russian passports and can freely travel to russia, providing the nato spooks an easy means of spreading their bioweapons into russia. russia really had no choice at that point but to intervene militarily or face an unending series of bioweapons attacks designed to specifically target genetic russians, as these neocon demons and their nato minions had an unlimited supply of slavic human guniea pigs to experiment on.

    as i have said before, neocons are not stupid just dispicabaly evil. they left the russians in a damned if you you and damned if you don’t position, baiting the bear into what seems an undefendable position. i have also said that putin and the russians are not stupid and understood all of this before undertaking this terrible task of securing their boarders and people and while it may seem they have been outclassed in the western propaganda war, imho i think they just don’t care about western propaganda and have their people overwhelmingly behind their effort, as truth is the best propaganda, pravda.

  4. “special military operation” ……..

    Vlad past-his-expiration-date Putin

    doesn’t even have the balls or brains to call a War….a War.

    one also notes that Putinista sites like the Saker

    have stopped publishing battle maps. Because:

    the maps not only do not change day-to-day,

    they don’t even change month to month.

    Quagmire, exactly as intended by Zio-globohomo.

  5. meamjojo says:

    What I am trying to understand is that since Ukraine conscripted almost all males between 18-64 into their army, with a country population of 44 million, there should be at least 15 million bodies in that army.

    So why aren’t they just overrunning the Russian positions in the east?

  6. meamjojo says:

    Let the economic strangling continue…
    ————
    Russian official admits sanctions are crippling the economy as the country grapples with a selloff and mass shortages
    April 22, 2022 11:36 AM PDT

    The ruble may not be showing it, but Western economic sanctions imposed against Russia are working.

    In revealing testimony before the Duma parliament, the head of the Central Bank of Russia (CBR) told the country’s lawmakers she had to throw everything but the kitchen sink just to prevent a full-blown run on the banking system.

    “The sanctions imposed against Russia affected the situation in the financial sector, spurred the demand for foreign currencies, and caused fire sales of financial assets, a cash outflow from banks, and surging demand for goods,” said Elvira Nabiullina in prepared remarks first published in English on Friday.

    The frank assessment of Russia’s economic problems contrasts sharply with political attacks launched against the current U.S. administration for a sanctions policy that failed to force Vladimir Putin to the negotiating table.

    Presenting the CBR’s annual report to parliament this week, Nabiullina painted a picture to lawmakers of just how grim the situation was that confronted her.
    ….
    https://fortune.com/2022/04/22/russian-official-admits-sanctions-crippling-economy-country-grapples-with-sell-off-mass-shortages-ukraine-covid/

  7. With administrators like these, Russia doesn’t even need enemies – a precise description of Russia’s eternal problem.

    Russia needs a new strategy and new people handling her interests in not only in Ukraine and abroad but most of all inside. No more half-measures, but smart, comprehensive political efforts. Sounds like a dream.

    Despite his eccentric character I had often thought that this man could have become a great president. He died six weeks after the following had been recorded. Here what he said on December 22, two months before the beginning of the war.

    “If you refuse, then we can accept another program, and of what kind – you will feel at 4 o’clock in the morning on February 22. I wish that 2022 was a peaceful year, but I love the truth. For 75 years I have been telling the truth. This will not be a peaceful year.

    This will be the year when Russia finally becomes a great country again. And everyone should shut up and respect our country. Otherwise, we will have to shut up and they will exterminate the Russians, first in the Donbass, and then in Western Russia.

    Therefore, in this regard, let’s support a new direction in Russia’s foreign policy.”

    • LOL: meamjojo
    • Replies: @Haxo Angmark
    , @Mikhail
  8. “ardent pro-Russia shill” – you are funny… Are you not a Russian? Man!

    “Ukrainians and Russians lost, as soon as they started shooting at each other, because we are one people with one haplogroup R1A – R_odin_A – RODINA. We are one sort and one people (OUR ROD). Ukraine is the outskirts of Russia, on the edge. The Jews made them Ukrainians – Jew Kulish invented the Ukrainian language in the late 19th century, and Jew Bender pitted a single people by the principle of Divide and Conquer, and they will not rest until they wipe us off the face of the earth.” says Andre Khors (?) See here:

    There are no two ways about it: Russia is doing the right thing in its Ukraina, “the Kiewer RUS”.
    Is it Russia’s fault that it had and has so many building sites considering history and bad histories, which were regularly forced on it? Bear v the wolves images come to mind. Just watching Youtube clips of single bears struggling with marauding wolves gives me an impression of Russia: the single, benign, docile bear being harrassed, pinched and bitten by rabid dogs (Jews’ hyenas).

    So much Russian blood (i.e. Russian & “Ukrainian”) is flowing once again into the soil of its borderlands. That alone will revive the Kiewer RUS and end the westernization (i.e. satanization) of the borderlands and the demonization of the motherland (one hopes).
    I wonder wether it is going to be a really really consequent OP and really clean out the perpetrators: the Synagogues of Satan incl. his Rome Church. The Rome Church is beside the Jew the great poisoner in the Ukraina.
    At the end of March more people began to wonder if it is not necessary to mobilize whole Russia…
    The tandem Lavrov-Putin seems more than smart. It looks perfect to master this incredible task of saving the Ukraina from the crazed up Ukrainians. What dirtied brains?! Since the Jews’ destruction of the USSR the Ukrainians have been filled up with “western” garbage by the Want Makers. They seem to have no idea what the West is. The West is the dark night of the soul.
    The sun rises in the East and just today Putin demanded a comprehensive development of the Kuril islands; thank you dumb fried Tshapen. Thank you, Russia. A strong Russia might one day give the western parts of Europe an idea what it could mean to have a backbone. That is my hope.

    • Agree: Ace
  9. Wokechoke says:

    The train link to Kramatorsk got Cut.

  10. Another drunk man in a bar outburst from Slavskiy, and he expects people to pay subscriptions for stuff of this quality.

    And then this.

    And even now, the Kremlin and its loathsome PR spokespeople claim that they are only in Ukraine temporarily, to conduct a de-nazification campaign. Not only is this claim bizarre, but what’s worse, people think they might actually mean it. So, after smashing the Ukrainian army and the volunteer battalions, they intend to do what — pull out?

    No references.
    Last month, in negotiations with Ukraine, Russia demanded the demilitarisation of Ukraine, Ukraines’s neutrality confirmed by treaty and Ukrainian recognition of Crimea as Russian, and of Donetsk and Lugansk Oblasts as independent states.
    The demands will be very much greater now.

    • Replies: @Durruti
    , @Olivier1973
  11. @Kurt Knispel

    Message to Kurt’s carer.
    Please ensure his medication is taken regularly.

  12. JBond says:

    It’s all a stupid shit fest.
    Mostly created by Joe Biden and the vassal western neo-liberal order.

    • Replies: @Francis Miville
  13. Levtraro says:
    @Notsofast

    russia really had no choice at that point but to intervene militarily or face an unending series of bioweapons attacks designed to specifically target genetic russians, as these neocon demons and their nato minions had an unlimited supply of slavic human guniea pigs to experiment on.

    This might work as a pro-Russian narrative but it is based on a completely unrealistic assessment of the current capacity of biosciences to produce such a fine-tuned genetic weapon.

    The problem is not (bio)technological, it cannot be solved by any amount of scientific-technological effort. The problem is that humans are a young species and therefore they have not diverged enough in genetic constitution to devise a fine-tuned genetic weapon. Sometimes you just cannot do something because the timing is not right.

    This doesn’t mean that U.S. biolabs around the world are not trying to do it. It is actually easy for entrepreneural biologists to sell a project with those objectives to the US military. So most likely these biologists are making a few bucks out of selling those projects to the US military.

  14. Levtraro says:
    @Rich

    The difficulty of holding the entire country is that the hard-core Ukrainians in the West will be able to fight a long-term insurgency against an occupying force that is unnecessary for the Russian goal of pushing Nato away from its border.

    Not a serious problem, IMO.

    Many of those supposedly hard-core Ukrainians were recruited as football hooligans, good for bar brawls and tattoo shops but not the right material for making an effective insurgency. You can see now despite all the weapons and training over 8 yr, hard-core Ukrainians were quickly defeated in their very centre of operation in Mariupol, unable to score any victory, even a small one.

    You need deep religious, ideological, racial divides or a combination of those three factors to create a viable insurgency. Not the case of Ukies vs. Russkies.

    Plus too many pro-western Ukies are actually outside the Ukranian territory and still leaving to go to the EU. So “hard-core Ukrainians” are getting more and more diluted by the day in the territory of the Ukraine.

    And I agree with you about Russians not withdrawing entirely.

    • Replies: @Z-man
    , @Herald
    , @Ace
  15. Cookie says:

    The U.S statement that its uping the ante with heavy weapons to the Ukraine and that they are looking at winning the war on Russia with Ukrainian lives as their only stake in the game has method in the madness.

    What the U.S strategy is trying to do is provoke Russia into an attack on NATO and defeat then in a conventional conflict or to cause enough pressure on Russians for them to oust Putin so the Jewish oligarchs can return to plunder.

    The U.S knows it cannot defeat a combined Russian, China adversary, so you divide then and try to beat them one at a time.

    PS: Could the attack on Russian oil storage be high energy weapons? Were there satellites overhead at the time?

  16. gT says:

    Russia really is a mystery wrapped in an enigma. Even people in the Russian government don’t know what Russia is going to do or not going to do next. The first hint of a change in strategy came with Russia’s involvement in Syria, but that was at the instigation of Iran, who promised to do most of the ground work there, as has indeed happened. Iran and Hezbollah do most of the fighting along with the Syrian army, while Russia takes care of bombing and surveillance.

    Now with Ukraine it definitely looks like Russia is finally willing to engage in the offence is the best defence strategy, especially now with the West collapsing as it is. But overall there still exists the need to obscure Russia’s overall strategy for Ukraine as that will play into the hands of Russia’s enemies. This “formlessness” as Sun Tzu put it is integral to warfare.

    But something is wrong with the Ukrainians, they can take the opportunity to overthrow the yoke of the NeoNazi oppression, but instead they just want to sit around and wait and not take sides. Everything must be done for them, to their exacting satisfaction. Ukrainians are not real Russians, the Ukrainians in Donetsk and Lugansk are real Russians on the other hand. They just fight, they don’t care if they are going to live or die, but they are not going to kowtow to the NeoNazi / Polish alliance in the East.

    Which brings me to the puzzle of why Putin wants to save civilian lives in Ukraine when most of them are not actually worth saving. But the civilians in Donetsk and Lugansk are definitely worth saving, so its their example which dictates Russia’s unusual attitude towards civilians in this special military operation I guess. In the West civilians are just collateral damage.

    • Replies: @G J T
    , @Ace
  17. The Kiewer Jews’ war against Russia is a Jewnighted States of Israhell war against all of Europe.
    This US war is designed to weaken Europe all together, to keep Jewmerica in, Russia out and Germany/Europe down. The priests & politicians, the lackeys of the evils’ forces in European governments, churches and institutions must be held personally liable and their family members materially liable in unlimited time for their crimes against the peoples of Europe and here especially the peoples of Russia and its Ukraina – borderlands.

  18. @Here Be Dragon

    Zhirinovsky is/was a Jew….who during the Soviet era twice attempted to emigrate to Israel.

    here’s some news you can use:

    no Jew is the friend of Whites or their (former) White nations.

    • Replies: @Here Be Dragon
  19. meamjojo says:
    @Levtraro

    This doesn’t mean that U.S. biolabs around the world are not trying to do it. It is actually easy for entrepreneural biologists to sell a project with those objectives to the US military. So most likely these biologists are making a few bucks out of selling those projects to the US military.

    How about the Russian, Chinese and Iranian biolabs also? Got any news on what they might be up to?

    • Replies: @Levtraro
    , @Ace
    , @Carroll price
  20. @Levtraro

    Good point. Just noting that 5 million people is more like 15-16% of the ukraine’s already-plummeting pre-war population.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
  21. @Haxo Angmark

    In the first 4 weeks the average cover was 3 Russian soldiers per km²…
    After 8 weeks over 23 thousand Ukrainian war slave hounds are documented dead.
    The AFU / RF ratio is ca. 10 : 1; one dead RF soldier follows 10 dead AFU soldiers.

    https://military.pravda.ru/1702270-bryansk/

    Russian leadership / Russia is confronted with thousand things at once, including a very strong and very demanding communist party, the Jews (you explained to me), rotten neighbours like Georgia, Kazakhstan a.o.
    Opposite to the so called Western gvts. the Russian seems to harbor a genuine concern for the wellbeing of its citizens.

    • Agree: Ace, Mulegino1
    • Replies: @MotGOD
  22. Notsofast says:
    @Levtraro

    imho covid was a bioweapon concocted in a bioweapon lab and a product of gain of function research produced by ralph beric funded by the nih and pentagon. after this dangerous research was briefly outlawed by the u.s. government the research was moved to wuhan. it has been pointed out that the successive “mutations” affect different populations in differing degrees of severity.

    the neocon manifesto, project for a new american century, in addition to wishing for a new pearl harbor event called for engineering race specific bioweapons. that was almost 25 years ago. 9/11 gave them carte blanche to follow through on their dark agenda and unlimited funding to pursue their illegal research in constructing bioweapons. did ukraine with a population 40 millions people really need 30 labs capable of creating bioweapons?

    hopefully the russians will release some of the evidence they have collected from these labs

  23. @Haxo Angmark

    Zhirinovsky had a Jewish father, who abandoned him and his mother when he was a kid. Liberal Jews in Russia often tried to point it out and use it in polemics against him, and every time he told them to shut the f. up and go play somewhere. He would say “I am Russian!”

    And he never tried to immigrate to Israel, only once he went there to visit his fathers grave; it was not a long time ago. He was a patriot, and his mother was Russian. Most people considered him a nationalist and there were no Jews in his party which also says something.

    And as a matter of fact, at least in Russia some Jews sometimes are indeed very patriotic. Very few of course, but they do exist.

    • Agree: RIchebourg, Durruti
  24. @Haxo Angmark

    I call it a war, Haxo: the US war in Ukraine, 2014 to ? Just like the US war in Afghanistan, the US war in Vietnam, the US war in Korea, and the US war in Sudan. Thank Nod that Putin’s peacekeeping mission is cleaning USUK out of the Ukraine and Kiev. USers!

  25. @meamjojo

    Ever since the US coup of 2014, Ukrainians have been killing Ukrainians in Kiev, Odessa, Donbass, and probably a lot of other places. This year, Ukrainians have been shooting escaping Ukrainians in the back, tying Ukrainians to utility poles, and shelling Ukrainian cities. They are too busy shooting each other to interfere with Russians.

    We hear about “pro-Russian Ukrainians”. If you were one of those, and that Jewish guy says you have to kill people, who you gonna kill? Russians?

  26. @Kurt Knispel

    I agree completely. Japan loves to hate Russia. Let’s hope they can be sensible about importing gas.

  27. Levtraro says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Thanks (with disabled Thanks button due to scarce posting).

  28. Levtraro says:
    @meamjojo

    How about the Russian, Chinese and Iranian biolabs also? Got any news on what they might be up to?

    Yes.

  29. Journalistically it also seems to fall more and more under the table that Russia’s action is a response.
    A response!
    That is a big difference from an attack.
    Russia is responding to “Ukraine’s” attack on its peoples and natural territories.
    Russia is responding to the Jewkrainian attack!
    Jewkrainian not only on behalf, but(t) together with the Jewnighted States of Israhell and mercenaries in order to weaken and deeply disturb Russia and with Russia Europe all together.
    “America” is the enemy of Europe!
    “America” is the destroyer of the European peoples.
    “European” governments are nothing but corrupt collaborators – with the violent support of the JewS bases in Europe – violently dictating to and indoctrinating the European peoples by all means.
    All so called American bases including all “diplomatic” outlets in Europe must be closed down.
    The sanctions and isolations bestowed on Russia belong to Israel and the Anglo-Americas including the very violent Australia and New Zealand.

  30. A reminder and a crutch for wobbly Russians at times when the evil, fake world is standing oh so upright against “bad Russia”:

    Russia! Never ever take any shit from those opportunistic Jewish led Anglo-American scum & hyenas!

    • Agree: GMC
    • Thanks: Thor Walhovd
    • Replies: @MotGOD
    , @CelestiaQuesta
  31. @Levtraro

    Most are going West for the easy/easier life. I was helping this Ukranian girl to get her giant luggage off the train in Stuttgart beginning of April, and she only knew English, not German. Turns out, Germany is helping them relocate; DeutcheBahn – the main German train company – was transporting ukranian women/families for free (men aged 18-60 are forbidden from leaving ukraine), there was info station waiting for them at the station + volunteers. The same day I saw a smallish meeting in the center of Stuttgart where Ukranian flags were waived and stupid Germans were clapping to the pro-ukrop propaganda.
    I’ve got the feeling these 5 millions won’t go back, ever, to Ukraine, no matter who’s in power and they don’t give a shit about their country which for the past 30 years is getting rekt by all kinds, but mostly Jewish oligarchs.

    • Agree: RIchebourg
    • Replies: @Levtraro
    , @Blissex
  32. Mafia’s “Amalek Rememberance” means destroying Russia.
    https://jewishstandard.timesofisrael.com/
    Hundreds of protesters gather for Ukraine in Tel Aviv

    [MORE]


    https://fr.timesofisrael.com/des-centaines-de-manifestants-se-rassemblent-pour-lukraine-a-tel-aviv/
    Whoever fights Amalek will be rewarded by Yahweh (the devil, the Jewish God) – as the examples of Soros and Selinski teach us currently.
    The Jewish “religion” (i.e. mafia) requires every Jew to obey and carry out “Yahweh’s commandments” and laws. Those who live and act “law-abidingly” are rewarded by Yahweh (the devil), so the teaching goes. Deuteronomy 7: 9 10: “By this you shall know: Yahweh your God is the God; he is the faithful God; even after a thousand generations he pays attention to the covenant and shows his favor to those who love him and pay attention to his commandments. But to those who are enemies to him he repays at once, and blots out every one; he does not delay when one is an enemy to him, but repays him at once.”
    Among the very most important commandments and laws is to fight Amalek wherever the “archenemy” of Judaism rears its head. Exodus 17:16: “The Lord said, ‘The hand to Yahweh’s standard!’ War is between Yahweh and Amalek from generation to generation.” And how does Yahweh formulate the command to fight Amalek? For example, in the Book of Exodus 17:14, His command is, “I will blot out the memory of Amalek from under heaven.” In the book of Deuteronomy 25:19, it is a command to the people of Israel to blot out the memory of Amalek: “When the Lord your God has given you rest from all your enemies round about in the land which the Lord your God is giving you for an inheritance to possess it, then blot out the memory of Amalek from under heaven!” This is also how the prophet Samuel understands the command to Saul, the first king of Israel (1 Samuel 15:3), “Therefore go now to battle and strike Amalek! Consecrate everything that belongs to him to destruction! Do not spare it, but kill men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys!”
    Now it is only a question of which persons, which nations are currently considered most important Amalek powers to fight? These are Russia and Germany. While in the FRG there is less an Amalek target, but only the Germans in general as Amalek, Vladimir Putin as a person represents the incarnation of Amalek.
    Prominent Jewish writer, rabbi and Torah teacher, Shammai Engelmayer (New York), on 03/17/2022 in the Jewish Standard: “Remembering Amalek means fighting Putin. It dawned on me that Vladimir Putin is Amalek in today’s world. The history of the Jews who lived under the tsars is also a bloody history. The pogroms that began in the early 1880s, including in what was then Russian Ukraine, were part of the tsarist government’s campaign against the Jews. Pamphlets calling for various pogroms were printed by the government. In 1827, Tsar Nicholas I came up with the idea of completely exterminating Jewry.”
    According to high-ranking rabbis, the Germans were already considered Amalek when there were no Germans as a nation. Talmud Jews claim that Germany has been called GERMAMYA in the Talmud, Gemara section, Tractate Megillah 6b, for 2500 years already. And GERMAMYA is Edom. Edom is considered the original tribe of Amalek, and Amalek is the arch enemy of the Jews, who must be completely eradicated. In the Talmud tractate Megillah 6b it says that it must be prevented that Edom, i.e. Germany, would become a power, because GERMAMYA, i.e. Germany, wants to go out to destroy the whole world. At least that is what Rabbi Yaron Reuven says.
    For example, when Kaiser Wilhelm II made his famous visit to Jerusalem in 1898, all the city’s leading clergy were invited to attend a lavish reception. The ultra-Orthodox rabbis, however, refused to attend. One of them was the ardent anti-Zionist Joseph Hayyim Sonnenfeld. When asked years later why he had cancelled, despite the rare opportunity to give his ritual blessing after this meeting with an imperial figure, Rabbi Sonnenfeld replied, “I learned from my teacher Rabbi Leib Fiskin about the tradition attributed to Rabbi Elijah, the Goan of Vilna, that the German nation descended from Amalek . . and how should I bless with the holy name a monarch who rules a people whose memory we have been commanded to eradicate?” (Elliot Horrorwitz: “Reckless Rites”)
    If the original plan of the globalists had worked out and Russia had been ruled by Rockefeller governors like Mikhail Khodorkovsky, Boris Berezovsky and Vladimir Gussinksi, to name only the three best known, under vassals like Boris Yeltsin – alias Yeltsman and Eltsin, respectively – they would not have needed Ukraine as a means of provoking war. President Putin is to this day the only statesman in the world who allowed a Rothschild governor like Khodorkovsky to be sentenced to ten 10-year camp terms for his crimes as a Jew in power. Already when Gussinsky, then president of the Jewish Communities of Russia, was arrested as a super-oligarch, it caused strong reactions in USA. The then Jewish U.S. Senator Lantos exclaimed three times in front of a CNN camera after Gussinski’s arrest, “Putin’s fate is sealed.” In other words, that was the hour when Putin was declared Amalek.
    When Putin was elected president of Russia in free elections in 2000, a completely destroyed, powerless and robbed country lay before him. But the globalists already recognized his true intentions to make Russia free, healthy and strong again.
    And immediately the globalists began to set the course to involve Russia, preferably with China, in a war that would destroy the most resource-rich country in the world in order to deliver the riches to Rothschild, Soros and consorts. This was revealed as early as 2000 by none other than Xavier Solana, then NATO Secretary General and Secretary General of the then Western European Union: “In this context, Solana not only drew attention to a potential ‘strain on transatlantic relations,’ but also expressed fears that a ‘major crisis with Russia’ and possibly with the People’s Republic of China could be provoked.”
    Today we are ready. Using Ukraine as an instrument, they have pushed Russia’s provocations through military encirclement and crimes against ethnic Russians in Ukraine to the point where President Putin could not help but respond on February 24, 2022. Just as Hitler was forced to respond militarily in 1939 by the mass murders of Germans in territories looted by fascist Poland.
    Right now Pooland is planning to split the Ukraina.
    “Poland has secret plan for Ukraine, Moscow claims”
    https://www.rt.com/russia/554671-poland-ukraine-spy-split/
    The above are partly translated excerpts of a current essay from the German National Journal:
    https://concept-veritas.com/nj/sz/2022/04_Apr/26.04.2022.htm
    (opened within the yandex browser it can be translated from German into English with a single klick)

    • Replies: @Eric Novak
    , @Chris Moore
  33. Derer says:
    @meamjojo

    Western economic sanctions imposed against Russia are working.

    Which specific?…they are mostly on individuals. What is working, the Russian counter-sanctions on European puppets who are listening to Washington gangsters instead of their own populace interest.

  34. Levtraro says:
    @Humbert Humbert

    I agree HH. These people will not return to Ukraine no matter what, which is good for the Russians.

  35. peterAUS says:

    ….a general mobilization might not only be desirable, but necessary in the coming months….

    “Great” idea.
    Looking forward to it.

    Will be interesting to see:
    Who, exactly, will be called up?
    What will be criteria for NOT being called up?
    And, more importantly, what will be the reaction/mood of the families of unfortunate people being called up?

    Then, how much time will be spent in preparing the people for combat before being sent to Ukraine?
    More importantly, how will that preparation look like? Now…knowing how that looked like for BTGs sent in February, I have an idea.

    Then, how, exactly, those unfortunate souls will be sent into combat? There are several options available there, and I just have a feeling the cabal in Kremlin will use the worst one.

    Won’t work, anyway.

    • Replies: @emerging majority
    , @Sepp
  36. Russia has been a threat to Britannia who believes she rules the waves and therefore the planet, but Russia owns the World Island and has the trump card over the “wave” card. Russia supported the 13 Colonies when King George tried to stifle the US! Payback is a bitch! Think about the cash supplied to the Bolsheviks, the blood of millions wasted on the Nazis, Churchill & Roosevelt & Cecil Rhodes progeny all playing A destabilizing game to maintain dominance over the potential of a dynamic modern Russia…….if Russians and the rest of us could but recognize the evil that has emanated from the City of London, the cost in human blood, which are pSacrifices by Mason’s to Baal……they would cleanse the planet with a pair of rockets aimed on Hereford and the square mile!
    Rigging the US elections to bring in Brandon was Dominion Voting Systems (which were not connected to the web😜🤓) and Google Lord Malloch Brown: interference in US sovereignty was an act of war by MI 6.
    Europe needs “liberated” once again from these demons & eugenecists!

    • Replies: @Blissex
  37. Z-man says:
    @Levtraro

    If the Russians withdraw from any territory it will be a defeat. In a peace treaty they must get a chunk of the land they first occupied in February between and south of Belarus and Russia. Karkhiv should be a border town.
    The south and east should be incorporated into Russia ASAP.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  38. … there is no good explanation for why Ukraine was lost in the first place. How could the Kremlin let a country split evenly between a pro-Russia and pro-West vote for multiple election cycles suddenly, almost overnight, be turned into a hostile, armed to the teeth Israel on the border of the greater Slavic world?

    No explanation? Everything fell apart, and quite suddenly! I’ve read that the US Alphabet Agencies had no idea a collapse was coming. Total chaos, and on that account very little was done right.

    The Kremlin, in its hard-boiled cynicism, thought that they could just bribe politicians and oligarchs in Ukraine to keep the situation from getting too out of control.

    Bribery usually works – just ask the Apartheid state. In 2014 the Kremlen was very busy with a lot of more important projects than building a propagand machine.

    Pro-Russian Ukrainians had very good reason to feel completely and totally abandoned by Russia for many years.

    VS

    Why then should anyone in Ukraine support the Russian army? So that they can receive a bullet to the head for being collaborators once they’re gone?

    On the one hand the author is complaining that the Russians hadn’t encouraged Russian-speaking Ukrainians, then he turns on a dime and howls about betrayal. Not encouraging the “pro-Russians” made good sense, for as the saying goes, “the nail that sticks out gets hammered down.” The Kremlin wasn’t in any position to help/intervene before it had got its own ducks in a row, so why cause stir up trouble? Hunkering down by Russian speakers made good sense during the wait for assistance of some kind.

    Russia needs a new strategy and new people handling her interests in Ukraine and the near abroad.

    It seems to me the “new strategy” is evolving right now. I expect Ukraine to be divided, and the citizens there will move to the region more suited to their needs. Ukrainian Speakers will filter to the West, and Russian Speakers to the new nation(s) in the East.

  39. @meamjojo

    With a trillion-dollar check from NATO and DC Neocons at the behest of Max Boot, Ukraine may put all 15 million eligible Ukrainian males in combat boots. Too bad the US/EU has a maxed out credit card right now.

  40. Exile says:

    90% of the above comments are as wrong-headed and incoherent as most of this piece was. So far this series has been about one third decent, the rest sounds like it’s trying far too hard to be “objective,” professing a pro-Russian stance but bitching at every turn that Russia is doing everything wrong. I don’t see the disaster and bumbling the author seems determined to read into this.

    I want AK and Saker back for Russia coverage – the replacement squad is not up to the task.

    • Agree: Herald
    • Replies: @Mustapha Mond
  41. Jon Chance says: • Website

    If the Treaty of Versailles was the cause of WW2, it’s also the origin of WW3 and WW4 — today’s world war.

    It’s difficult to believe that any of today’s geostrategic conflicts can be resolved peacefully and productively without fully understanding all the world wars as a single protracted war for global domination.

    Inside the Third Reich by Albert Speer and The Greatest Story Never Told by Dennis Wise are two resources everyone should be aquainted with — not to mention Benjamin Freedman‘s 1961 astounding public disclosure of global Zionism.

    Listen carefully to President Kennedy’s 1961 address on National Security and Secret Societies.

    https://TheGreatestStoryNeverTold.tv

  42. @meamjojo

    Fortune magazine has long been an openly capitalist organ for the Rottenfeller Crime Clan, who gave Henry Luce the backing to develop that slick, glossy magazine (at a considerable financial loss, except for major advertising backing from corporations held by that leading crime clan and their gadzillionaire buddies such as the Dupont, Carnegie, Mellon, Morgan and other financiers.)

    Citing anything from that mag-rag is a sign of intellectual vacuity.

    • Replies: @meamjojo
  43. @peterAUS

    Meanwhile your favorite Ukie Terrorist government hoodlums are arming low-life career criminals. That is their state of total desperation as their military is systematically crushed by the heavy hugs by Mama Bear.

  44. GMC says:
    @meamjojo

    Don’t confuse sanctions with outright theft from the West – I don’t see any homeless, empty supermarkets or beggars on the streets here. Rolo can dissect Russia all he wants – but it ain’t going to change the fact that Russians are in better shape than the Western assholes – when it comes to their future – and that will be the deciding factor in this Russia vs the Deep State One World Order BS. The Domestic US and Europe are very unstable whereas the Russians seem to be holding their own – Ukie ville will , for the most part become a terrorist borderland.

    All governmnts are corrupt, but which one will survive the West or the Zionist infiltraitors – is the big question. Spasibo

  45. Ross23 says:

    Ukraine is fucked regardless of Russia winning or loosing

    Millions of young women have left & not coming back, so the birth rate / population will plummet. Its population density will resemble much of siberia in the future, with Ukraine just a wasteland of ruined depopulated cities like mariupol, half empty villages with stubborn elderly people living there in poverty.

    The cynic in me thinks this may be a deliberate move by Russia, afterall a buffer state is easier to manage when its empty with no restless ambitious young people looking west.

    • Disagree: GMC
    • Replies: @GMC
  46. Ghali says:

    Good critical analysis. It is worth noting that since 1991, Russia made despicable “efforts” to be close to the U.S.-led West. Russia voted with the U.S. for sanctions against the DPRK, it supported the U.S. War of Terror, in voted for the destruction of Libya, among other U.S. crimes. Even Iran and Syria were for sale. Russia tried to use them as bargaining chips with the U.S. and Israel. But, Iranians are much smarted than Russians.
    President Putin and his ministers and spokesmen/spokeswomen still refer to the U.S.-led regimes as “colleagues” and “partners”. Listen to Sergey Lavrov. Sadly, Russians feel inferior when dealing with Westerners in the same way poor Africans behave toward whites. The results, Russia is surrounded by U.S. nuclear weapons and hostile regimes like the Neo-Fascist in Poland, the Czech Republic and the Baltic. More than \$30 billion of Russian assets are gone. Joe Biden will use the money to enrich himself and his close associates.
    Why Putin acted the way he always acted. Of course, minus the empty rhetoric. It is not the Gorbachev disease. It is because Putin is controlled by the powerful Russian Jewish Lobby in the same way Zelensky is controlled by Jews. Putin has recently wakeup to the behaviour of the “fifth column” who fled to Turkey and Israel to protect “their” stolen assets. It would be great if they will not come back. Some still in Russia, including the despicable Peskov. If Russia wake up and adopted the foreign policies of Iran and the DPRK, the world will live in peace. The U.S. and its “allies” have no respect to, diplomacy, civilised norms and international law. They respect resistance and countermeasures. Collectively, the U.S.-led West is a criminal enterprise masquerading as countries that claim to be civilised.

  47. awry says:

    there is no good explanation for why Ukraine was lost in the first place. How could the Kremlin let a country split evenly between a pro-Russia and pro-West vote for multiple election cycles suddenly, almost overnight, be turned into a hostile, armed to the teeth Israel on the border of the greater Slavic world?

    2014 was a turning point as the Ukrainians were forced to choose between the EU and the Russian-led Eurasian Union, and Yanukovich was acting like a windbag, but always late. The former looked more attractive for the Ukrainian professional class who wanted EU salaries. The pro-Russia bloc was quickly repressed.
    Russia should have annexed the eastern part in 2014, not just Crimea. The half-assed attempt with backing the Donbas separatists didn’t worth the price. As I understand Russia was much less prepared to sanctions then so the Kremlin didn’t risk a total war, despite that they could have won then.

    • Replies: @Blissex
  48. Lochearn says:

    A very interesting and thought-provoking article. While America became the masters of soft power Russia concentrated on advanced weaponry. And soft power was not just the province of the US government but rich individuals such as Soros made massive contributions. Wikileaks published cables sent by embassies detailing their work to undermine governments. Here is one from Venezuela:

    2. (S) In August of 2004, Ambassador outlined the country team’s 5 point strategy to guide embassy activities in Venezuela for the period 2004 ) 2006 (specifically, from the referendum to the 2006 presidential elections). The strategy’s focus is: 1) Strengthening Democratic Institutions, 2) Penetrating Chavez’ Political Base, 3) Dividing Chavismo, 4) Protecting Vital US business, and 5) Isolating Chavez internationally. https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/06CARACAS3356_a.html

    It is worth browsing through the cables to get an idea of the scale and the comprehensive nature of US activities to undermine governments and Ukraine must have been near the top of the list of priorities.

    Meanwhile, US companies producing military hardware came under the Wall Street axe and were expected to operate in the same “lean and mean” way as all other public companies – where the share price is the product. Cash for R&D went to intensive lobbying and to share buybacks while management consultants tore the morale out of the engineering workplace.

    The opposite occurred in Russia where military innovation became an absolute priority. And while the author is right that Russia should have done far more in Ukraine, at the end of the day it was always going to come down to weaponry.

  49. Sepp says:
    @peterAUS

    One of the mistakes Hitler is often accused of, and one of the big reasons given for Germany’s loss in WWII, is that he waited far too long to put the German economy, and their entire culture into a complete war footing.

    Russia is at war with ZOG. Putin knows all about the genocide that ZOG perpetrated on Germany after the war. Putin also knows that NATO rhetoric has been escalating to the same shrill levels as that coming out of the mouths of Churchill, Roosevelt and Putin’s own beloved Stalin: “Unconditional Surrender”

    So Mr. Slavskiy is correct, a general mobilization is overdue. Russia needs to prepare for total war with ZOG, and with ZOG Hasbara agents like PeterAUS.

    It appears that Putin is being set up for some kind of “Stalingrad” moment, when Russian forces are surrounded and forced to surrender. This could happen in Transnistria or Kaliningrad or even Kherson. Unfortunately people like PeterAUS are as horny for fighting WWIII down to the last Ukrainian as Stalin was for dead Russians in WWII.

  50. Thim says:

    Americans do not understand how the Kremlin works, especially all the factions involved. Mostly, we just seem to imagine Putin is an absolute dictator and does whatever he wants.

    We saw in the public televised confrontation, on the very edge of the invasion, the Director of the FSB was not on board. He was supporting something different.

    That is only one example. But the Kremlin remains stuffed to the gills with a 5th Column, and only a few have been removed.

    Clearly, the largest aspect of this war is financial. The move toward a gold backed ruble proceeds. And so long as that proceeds the war will escalate. This is not a border skirmish, it is a world war, mostly economic.

    When China takes Taiwan, things will be clarified. Globalism is ending. There really are two zones, not one. And we can give Putin credit for that improvement.

  51. Sepp says:

    US weapons supply to Ukraine prepped in January

    Republican Senator John Cornyn introduced the Ukraine Democracy Defense Lend-Lease Act, also known as S.3522, on January 19, 2022. This is according to the official Congress.gov page for the bill. On the same date, it was co-sponsored by senators Benjamin Cardin, Jeanne Shaheen and Roger Wicker.

    Senators Richard Blumenthal and Lindsey Graham endorsed it the very next day, January 20. Other endorsements trickled in over the following weeks, with a total of 14 senators on board by February 9, again according to Congress.gov.

    Russia did not recognize the independence of Donetsk and Lugansk until February 21. The “special military operation” to demilitarize Ukraine began on what was already February 24 in Washington.

    LOL. “Live by the sword, die by the sword”. US Lend Lease was secretly being funneled to Russia before Barbarossa. Now we find out that Russia is getting the same two-faced ZOG treatment. Putin, just like Hitler, can do nothing about it. Putin, unlike Hitler, is himself a product of ZOG and now is having great difficulties tearing out of his mouth the teat he has been sucking on for decades.

  52. Herald says:
    @Levtraro

    There seems no reason at all why all those “hard-core” anti-Russians in the west or any other part of Ukraine should not be given a one way trip to the EU/UK.

    • Agree: profnasty
  53. When you said there had been a coup in Ukraine you hurt your credibility so much the rest wasn’t worth reading.

    • Troll: Bro43rd, RadicalCenter
  54. JR Foley says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    Where is USA and NATO —too scrared to come and get a licking.

  55. gotmituns says:

    Who gives a rat’s butt about Ukraine when the Johnny Depp, Amber Heard trial is going on? Get your priorities straight, people

  56. If you want to know why so many Ukrainians turned away from Russia over the past decade look at Poland. Russians always underestimate Poland.

    Life in Poland has improved dramatically over the past 20 years, life in Russia has not, unless you are a 10 percenter in Moscow or Piter. Millions of Ukrainians have gone abroad to work in Ukraine over the last decade sending back both money and stories about how life is better in the EU.

    Everyone knows that life is shit in the DNR/LNR – rampant poverty and corruption, no decent jobs. Crimea is a little better but not much. Russia has done nothing to make joining Russia seem attractive to the average Ukrainian working stiff. Joining an economic alliance with Poland, Slovakia and the Czechs seems like a beautiful dream to anyone living in Kherson or Zhitomir.

    • Agree: peterAUS
  57. Anonymous[204] • Disclaimer says:
    @Levtraro

    The problem is that humans are a young species and therefore they have not diverged enough in genetic constitution to devise a fine-tuned genetic weapon.

    A bit more technically, humans are a young species that has recently (as such things go) migrated to fill “out of Africa” habitats. This means that genetic markers, at least, are “smeared out” geographically, becoming more common for some markers, and less common for other markers, as one samples in the general direction of historic migration.

    Among other things, genes code for proteins. Disease microorganisms usually depend on protein composition of some host cell wall component to gain entry into the cell.

    This leave the enquiring biowarfare researcher with the task of finding some specific protein (from some specific gene or gene complex) that can be used by some specific disease. The gene complex has to be specific to the target population, and very rare in the attacking population. The problem is that, thanks to the “smearing” described above, such genes simply don’t exist for two adjacent populations (e.g. Germany and France, Russia and Ukraine).

    Consider also the present crude methods used in “gain of function” research. As I understand it, the COVID virus shows signs of having been modified by CRISPR gene insertion from several other viruses, then passed through many generations in a human cell culture. While the technique is effective in the sense that it can produce a highly infectious microorganism, the technique is very crude and the researcher doesn’t really know which gene complexes the resultant microorganism uses to infect human cells. Is the gene complex one that is common in the target population, or in the attacking population? No real way to know, short of releasing the microorganism into the target population and then watching the infection/mortality statistics.

    And there is more. Assume that the required gene could be found, and the BW agent developed to kill or crippled people who have that gene. Suppose (as Ron Unz apparently does) that the BW agent has been released deliberately. Clearly, the blowback has destabilized the US. This is the inevitable result of BW agent release using current methods of BW agent development.
    Right now, understanding of genetic expression and cell functioning is in its very early states. Evolution took ~3 billion years [1] to get from origin of life to a single eukaryotic cell ecology, as opposed to 0.6 billion years subsequently to develop our present array of multicellular organisms [2], and right now the field of Biology is at the “cut and try” stage. The using pure from, say, mammoth DNA, to a complete living Mammoth is impossible [3]. Nor will it support de novo design of an infectious microorganism, not even a simple RNA virus. What it will produce is a microorganism fresh out of recent heavy mutation, and likely to mutate still more after its release. It is thus prone to infect both the target population and the attacking population and many other populations [4], which is what we have seen with COVID.

    Biowarfare is a bad investment at the present time.
    ——————————————————————-

    1] https://courses.lumenlearning.com/biology1/chapter/eukaryotic-origins/
    2] https://www.britannica.com/science/Ediacaran-Period
    3] But by starting with existing viable elephant genetic suites and grafting (using CRISPR) recreations of historic genes (from the “quick frozen wooly mammoths”) found in Siberia, you might get something that looks like a Mammoth, and perhaps could survive in an tundra ecology. This is more “cut and try” work, not reasoning from a functional knowledge of DNA and a wooly mammoth DNA structure to a wooly mammoth. The process will not make a wooly mammoth. https://www.wnd.com/2022/04/forget-extinction-u-s-company-plans-bring-back-wooly-mammoths/
    4] Apparently some anti-malarial and broad spectrum anti-parasite drugs have reduced COVID incidence negligible levels in some areas. Incidence reduction through drugs is not the same as natural immunity, so quite possibly COVID was infectious in all populations.

    • Replies: @Drapetomaniac
    , @Levtraro
  58. Russia is prized by the Jew for its resources but by the Roman Catholic Church for its desire to do away with a major competitor (Protestant groups are also in it) and ‘harvest’ souls for the benefit of the church coffers. The only way to save the Slavic world from two formidable adversaries is to be ruled by hard-core pro Russia band.

    The vultures are hovering overhead and it’s time to get their act together!

  59. MLK says:

    I’m all for counterfactuals but you’re going to have to be patient now that the kinetics have kicked off again.

    At times like these, too much information is as confusing as sheer ignorance. In other words, sometimes — and this is one of those moments — the devil isn’t in the details.

    Simplify and apply common sense. Then build a probabilistic analysis upon it.

    Accept the following, which are ineluctable:

    To quarrel with the idea that a neutral, demilitarized Ukraine is a vital national security interest of Russia, especially now that all the cats are out of the bag, is such a no-brainer any middle schooler chirping otherwise in social studies class should be given a failing grade.

    While we’re not there yet, eventually even though who don’t know how a mirror is fogged are going to figure out that there are only two parties here, Russia and the USG.

    Consider yourself lucky to live through a period when History is made on the fly. One day it will look so straightforward but right now the complexity doesn’t even allow even highly informed observers to determine not only ‘Why now?’ for Russia kicking off its SMO, but also the ‘Who?’ in terms of making sure it happened.

    This gaggle likely leans heavily in the direction of the USG (successfully) goading Russia into invading. There’s a great deal of evidence for it. Certainly the illegitimate “Biden” regime was hankering to flip the switch and jump from the Covid madness to the Ukraine madness. Moreover, from Russia’s perspective, the USG is weak and discredited and, after the Afghanistan debacle, ripe for pickings. Especially given the nascent commodities super cycle, that as an historical matter is coincident with wars involving key exporters, like in the US Civil War.

    “Lifting sanctions against Russia part of peace talks with Ukraine – Lavrov”

    This headline finally introduces a bit of hope that negotiations can give both parties (the US and Russia) what they need to end the war. The obvious problem in my view has been how the USG is able to save face, not Russia. Remember, the Russian government crossed the Rubicon when it detailed its objectives with specificity and publicly so. It must, and will, achieve those.

    Ironically, squaring the circle of a settlement within Ukraine isn’t really the difficult part. It’s the Potemkin Village Idiot in the White House being able to claim glorious victory so the sanctions can be removed. This will be one instance where the Fake News will be on the side of the angels. Understand, all of the faerie stories of Ukraine kicking Russia’s ass assist in this effort.

    The financial war against Russia has been a fiasco for the US and the West. Believe me, anyone who is anybody wants it aborted.

    • Replies: @emerging majority
  60. Agent76 says:

    Apr 29, 2022 The Intelligence Community & the Ukraine War w/Phil Giraldi

    Latest on the Ukraine Russian war with Phil Giraldi, former CIA Case Officer and Army Intelligence Officer.

    Feb 3, 2022 Why Putin cannot allow Ukraine to join NATO

    And if it does… it will destroy itself. He explains.

    • Thanks: Z-man
  61. Ghali says:

    It is unbelievable that Russia still supplying Gas to its enemies, including Ukraine. I do not understand it. It is like providing comfort to criminals who are intending on killing your family and destroying your life. Telling the criminals, “I will remain loyal”.

    • Replies: @Arthur MacBride
    , @Anon
    , @haha
  62. @meamjojo

    Just like the US Central Bank, the Russian CB (Nabiullina) has been wrecking the Russian economy before sanctions. Because of that she has been under fire lately for her Anti Russian, Globalist running of the CB. She is merely trying to place the blame elsewhere for the problems she has caused. The US Fed is going to do the same for the collapse of the US economy. All wars are banker wars and only the elite win.

  63. MotGOD says:
    @Kurt Knispel

    “…Russian seems to harbor a genuine concern for the wellbeing of its citizens. …”

    If by wellbeing you mean starting and escalating a war that will get them all nuked to death.

    • Disagree: Drapetomaniac
  64. MotGOD says:
    @Kurt Knispel

    Proud to be a Raping Russian!

  65. @Ghali

    Agreed, it is incomprehensible.

    Just like the entire “Please be nice to us” attitude to the effete demonic west, a Central Bank chief who seems to be in the pay of Russia’s enemies, seeming total lack of govt cohesion, patriots banned from msm, friends abroad neglected …

    Thank you for information, young Rolo.

    It’s not a picture that inspires confidence, Vladimir Vladimirovitch.
    You apparently need to seriously up your game.
    If not, you will lose Russia to the Hyena.
    It’s how History will remember you.

  66. Anon[256] • Disclaimer says:

    I think that Russians are an extremely patient race able to endure difficult situations and people which and who would drive a Saint to drink. However, when they have had enough, they are a fearsome lot.

    I have Russian friends who seem able to bear anything but come a point they go absolutely batshit !

    I note that Stalin (and he was no Pollyanna) bore the most brazen provocations from Adolph, that the last train from Russia loaded with trade goods had just entered Russia when Barbarossa began. Four years later Berlin was a pile of rubble !

    The experts in the West seem to have overlooked this characteristic. The Russians have put up with a lot of crap and now we are once again feeling the backlash from Putin. This Vlad, unlike the West, does what he says he is going to do militarily.

    We should not provoke him into showing that he means what he says when he threatens nuclear consequences. Surely the Russian studies Phd graduates from our elite Ivy League Universities understand the Russian character, unless of course they are too busy being woke and indulging in cancel culture.

    One thing is for sure, the shits who provoke Russia will not be sending their kids into the inferno and if there is a conflict the casualties wont be in thousands like in Afghanistan and Nam, but in the hundreds of thousands and millions.

    Some situations should be left alone to sort themselves out. The Russia/ Uke conflict is one of them !

    • Replies: @MotGOD
  67. Anon[256] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ghali

    It is unbelievable that Russia still supplying Gas to its enemies, including Ukraine. I do not understand it. It is like providing comfort to criminals who are intending on killing your family and destroying your life. Telling the criminals, “I will remain loyal”.

    Well, business is business. Besides, guess who is paying the gas bill for Ukraine ? That’s right, its the US taxpayer LOL.

    Then the money from those sales is used by Vlad to finance the war in addition to funds received from the sale of captured NATO equipment. Everybody got to make a living LOL.

    While it may seem as if Russia is being silly, it is a smart thing to do. Keep sending the billions to the Z. In any case, Russia can always lean back and cut gas supplies…………..in the middle of the 2022/2023 Winter LMAO.

    Vlad is not a sheep in wolfs clothing, or a wolf in sheep’s clothing but a fox in bear’s clothing !

  68. MotGOD says:
    @Anon

    You build a pyramid of imaginary Russian grievance and hollow vaunting on false history.

    Barbarossa was a pre-emption of Operation Thunderbolt.

    Operation Thunderbolt was Russian betrayal of the non-aggression treaty with Germany — a literal stab in the back meant to put all of Europe under the Russian Gulag.

    You are so thrilled to say that Berlin was Rubble (thanks to all the Jewish controlled support of Russian forces), but though the German people were sacrificed they did save half of Europe from the Raping Russians.

    The real provocation was to make war on Ukraine, justified by sick lies about “Ebil Not-sees” and other very Jewish folderol, and to threaten nuclear terrorism, etc.

    Wise up! If your dad Vlad escalates too far it will mean the extinction of the Russian people
    — while some in the west, perhaps some of the best, will survive
    — to recolonize the world
    — and someday write the sad history of the extinct “Russian Nation”.

    • Replies: @Anon
  69. GMC says:
    @Ross23

    Russia didn’t make these people move. Except for the ones that went to Crimea and Russia itself. The Americans and Jew Oligarchs destroyed the economy of Ukraine after they took over Kiev. The Hgr.went from 8 to 1 dollar in 2013 to 25 to 1 dollar in 2018 and the young people started to move to Belarus, Europe and Russia for work – Fact. The US , the Jew Oligarchs and Nato funded, trained and armed the Nazi battalions, and the Ukie military, in order to fight Russia – another fact. 45.000 people in Donbass were killed or wounded from 2014 to 2022 – Fact. People are leaving because the US moved 100,000 Ukie , mercenary and Nazis to the Crimea and Donbass borders – for a War – Period.

    Ukraine lost 5 to 8 million people when the US did the Coup – it got worse as time went on. At least 1 million people lost there 100 dollar a month pension since 2014 = 3 to 4 billion owed to these pensioners – and the US has frozen American bank accounts and their debit and credit cards because they live in Russia.

    • Thanks: showmethereal
  70. nsa says:

    Bier Tisch Kommander NSA here: with a correct military strategy, there is no need for a goofy western style propaganda effort. Time for the timid Ruskies to stop with the kabuki theater stuff.
    1) there are maybe 50 power plants in west ukieland and every one of them has a substation attached. Take out the major power substations with 50 or 100 missiles. Let the enemy live in the dark without communications or internet or commerce or transportation. No modern society functions in the dark. Flood the euroweanies with 10 to 15 million more refugees. In the first day of the 2003 Iraq attack, the complete Baghdad power grid was taken down….better to see the shock and awe fireworks,
    2) The baltic states still receive most of their electrical power from the Ruskie grid. Throw the switch so they can also live in the dark and eat their pets. Lots of cam girls will be suddenly enemployed but who cares.
    3) Might as well cut off all the nat gas to the pathetic euroweanies. Let them lay a 3000 mile long pipeline under the atlantic ocean to receive frack nat gas from their amellikan lord and master.
    4) The Russian Federation sits on between 1/4 to 1/3 of the worlds resources…..real stuff like oil, bauxite, iron, coal, trees, fertile soil, gold, nat gas, etc…..not fake pixel wealth like streaming porn, reverse mortgages, \$100k bypass operations, annuities, erectile dysfunction cures, etc. Sell the stuff to friends at discount and cut off enemies.
    5) Build and maintain the filthiest thermonuclear weapons imaginable…..they will need them as there is nothing more vindictive than a jilted globohomo empire.

    • Agree: dimples
  71. …the situation that had developed in Ukraine following the coup d’etat of 2014…

    The constant corruption was one of the driving forces of the Orange Revolution and the ascent of Viktor Yushenko and his pro-NATO, anti-Russia government and then again with Euromaidan and the calls for Yanukovich to step down.

    Being pro-West and Liberal came to mean standing for a corruption-less Ukraine free of the control of Russian oligarchs and the communist-era leftover nomenklatura.

    There is a glaring contradiction here. The second and third sentences, quoted above, essentially explain why an alleged coup d’etat was not even necessary, in light of Yanukovich’s widespread unpopularity and the fact that Ukraine had a parliamentary system. Indeed, there was no such coup d’etat because Yanukovich essentially surrendered (as Putin himself had publicly acknowledged days later) and fled the country only hours after signing an agreement with the opposition leaderds, the terms of which were not in his favor and thus left him with no viable political future.

    The issue is clear, as I had pointed out weeks ago on this site, and is confirmed in these latter two sentences. Since the majority of the Ukrainian population was fed up with corruption and cronyism under the Yanukovich regime, they favored closer ties with the European Union, for which constraining such rampant practices would have been a prerequisite. Oligarchic corruption robs the people of the money they help generate. That’s why they would not stop demonstrating at the Maidan square for weeks, after the proposed deal with the EU was abandoned. Yanukovich then became even more unpopular in light of the violence he had authorized against demonstrators.

    After the people of Crimea had voted to join Russia, the next logical step for Russia was to fabricate the political conditions to later enable a land corridor between Russia and Crimea, through military conquest. This entailed fomenting terrorist activities among Russian separatists in Donbass as a prelude, which in turn provoked “the anti-terrorist operation” by Ukraine, as it was candidly described in the text. It was in Russia’s interest to prolong this conflict, which it did for years by violating the Minsk agreements, because the ongoing military tension necessarily precluded Ukraine from NATO membership under such conditions, as if though other countries were otherwise prepared to accept it, which was not the case.

    As obvious as these developments have been to understand, Russia’s well-funded propaganda apparatus has nonetheless been somewhat successful in concocting the most ridiculous cover-up narratives that have fooled many credulous people who hadn’t followed events closely when they were happening eight years ago, including many who comment here. It shows how easily some can be persuaded to avidly support terrorism and a war of aggression, killing tens of thousands of people, under the flimsiest pretexts.

    • Replies: @GMC
  72. Alfa158 says:

    “ Why then should anyone in Ukraine support the Russian army? So that they can receive a bullet to the head for being collaborators once they’re gone? No wonder Ukrainians are hunkering down and keeping quiet. Why support a military that won’t be there to protect you once they’ve won? ”

    The people with white armbands lying shot dead in the streets of Bucha provided the answer to those questions. They shouldn’t.

  73. @Kurt Knispel

    Not sure where R1a comes into the picture when it comes to Rus. Few Scandinavian Rus if any would have carried that haplogroup but far more likely to have carried I1-M253 along with associated subclades.

  74. @Exile

    Saker is gone, due to alleged ‘health’ issues. He has already informed his readers on his blog he is not returning for at least 3 months. He has handed over everything to Amarynth and others to run the blog in his absence. NO discussion of what the ‘health’ issues are (which is fine under normal circumstances, as health is an intensely private matter, and should be respected. But with war in Ukraine just starting to go into high gear, these are NOT normal circumstances. Especially for a pro-Russia blogger.)

    One wonders if the health he is concerned about is both for him and his family, as he might be worried that all might suffer from an instantaneous lethal dose of lead poisoning, to the head, in what will be proclaimed in the MSM as a murder-suicide by a deranged pro-Russian blogger experiencing financial troubles, etc.

    [That last paragraph was really tongue-in-cheek, as I am sure Andrei is being honest about his health. He’s talked about it before, so I am fairly certain that is the real reason. But with so many bloggers and journalists around the world over the years suffering accidents (and committing suicide with two bullets to the head, ala Gary Webb), you never know…….]

    http://thesaker.is/message-to-the-saker-community-from-andrei/

    • Replies: @showmethereal
  75. Thanks for posting this. Wonderful and illuminating to read. The messages from Moscow have indeed been muddled especially regarding the end game. Negotiations? What for? Though my guess is that the Chinese want them to play that game. The section regarding leaving pro Russian Ukrainians to twist in the wind around Kiev was spot on. Hence, Bucha. We can only guess how many are dying in Ukraine at the hands of Zelensky’s rat squads. At least the actions of the West have exposed their end game. Putin and his people need to clear out the riff raff among their own ranks now.

    • Agree: Ulf Thorsen
  76. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @Kurt Knispel

    The ((Jews)) have only been able to get away with this insane nonsense because they infiltrated the British Empire via the ((Cousinhood)), and then put the Anglosphere to work on validating Satanic/evil ((Jewish)) prophecy.

    In other words, their parasitic fifth column has been the key to their status as the “cho\$en,” and the superstitious rubes ate up the illusion.

    How “chosen” are they in reality? Let’s look at the record since they took full control of the reins under George W. Bush: War against Muslims, Arabs and “Islamofascism” based on 9/11 inside job: FAIL. War to drive angry Muslims and Africans into Europe: Mixed results, but now failing. War against American “White supremacy”: mixed results but now failing. War on “Amalek” Putin and Christian Russia: FAIL. Opening up America’s southern border: mixed results. Bankrupting America and enriching Israel: success, but at the long term expense of the Zionists, as there’s no one else for the parasites to enslave; they’ve milked the Anglosphere to death, and the Internet has blown their evil racket wide open.

    Without the Brits and corrupt Anglo-elites to pay for and enforce their insane Zionist prophecy and conceal the scam, they’re nothing. They came in on the tail end if the dying British Empire, used their epic Ponzi to pump some life into it and “secure” Israel, got greedy and big-headed (as ((Jews)) always do) and started thinking they were God, abused their benefactors, and have now shot their wad.

    Now they’re going to pay the price for their parasitic treachery.

    • Replies: @Druid
  77. @Levtraro

    That’s not entirely accurate. Sickle cell anemia is an African genetic trait conferring, oddly, some protection against malaria. Various diseases and defects affect particular racial and ethnic groups, or predispose them to contracting illnesses to a greater level than others. On the other hand, modern travel and the sexual mixing that followed is working to homogenize the genetics of humans rather than provide time for further evolutionary divergence through isolation.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
  78. The root cause of the war in the Ukraine is zionism, and this has been the root cause of every war since WWI, see the book, The Controversy of Zion by Douglas Reed. When the zionists saddled America with their privately owned FED and IRS, 2 of the 10 planks of the communist manifesto, the stage was set for the wars that would gradually destroy the white race and profit the zionist banking kabal that owns the FED and IRS, and this is what the zionists have done with the wars ever since WWI right down to the destruction of the middle east and the Ukraine.

    By the way the destruction of the middle east was brought on by Israel and traitors in the ZUS governments attack on the WTC on 911 and blamed on the muslims to give the excuse to destroy the middle east for Israels greater Israel project, every thinking American knows that Israel and the ZUS government did the attack. To see how the attack was done, go to drjudywood.com and wheredidthetowersgo.com.

    Russia stands alone against this satanist zionist communist monster that has destroyed nations and humanity world wide and Russia will prevail, God bless Russia and God bless Putin.

  79. Durruti says:
    @Verymuchalive

    You definitely are Very Much Alive!

    Keep up the good work!

  80. @JBond

    Joe Biden is an English proper noun that cannot be used in the nominative case, i.e., that cannot be the subject of any verb of action, declaration or thought, except when the verb is in the passive voice. e. g. : you may say “We see Joe Biden as a sleep-walker first and foremost”, but not “Joe Biden sees us in his shit-show”.

  81. GMC says:
    @Been_there_done_that

    There was a documentary done on why Yanuk the thief left Kiev so fast – Pretty simple – if he got killed , they would blame the Russians or some other huckleberries and the West would be off the hook , when it came to placing Poroshankster, Yats, and the others in office . He didn’t get killed, but the West still openly placed ” their Boyz” in office. The Jew News covered up everything – as usual.

    And why was there a need for a land bridge between Crimea and Donbas, Odecca, or the rest of Eastern Europe? Because the new Kiev Regime made sure their nazis and thugs beat the fuck out of anybody trying to head in those directions, not to mention that Kiev stopped the trains and buses from Simferopol headed towards those destinations.

    Crimea was an Autonomous Republic with a constitution since the 1920s, but the West doesn’t acknowledge any of this , so why should anyone acknowledge that the USA – even exists as the USA – anymore. Because it doesn’t. And the evidence is overwhelming – it was taken over and it’s peoples government has ceased to exist for a very long time. If Russia is just a big Gas Station with Nukes , the US is just a big corrupt Bank with a military Crime Syndicate.

    • Replies: @dimples
  82. Durruti says:

    Even before the first shot was fired, the situation that had developed in Ukraine following the coup d’etat of 2014 can only be characterized as a complete, abject and miserable failure of Russian foreign policy. And it only got worse year after year following the seizure of power and the beginning of the anti-terrorist operation in the Donbass. Here, the failure is inexcusable, but easily explainable. The Kremlin, in its hard-boiled cynicism, thought that they could just bribe politicians and oligarchs in Ukraine to keep the situation from getting too out of control. They never switched strategies and they never really did anything to neutralize the West’s far more effective color revolution + mass propaganda strategy. Incompetent corrupt fools like Victor Medvechuk were tasked with keeping a Russian toehold in Ukraine.

    This is the heart of an excellent article by Rolo Slavskiy. It is all true.

    The Russian Oligarchs were dragged, kicking and screaming into defending the VERY EXISTENCE of THEIR NATION.

    Russia’s Leaders were helped by a series of BLUNDERS by the MOSSAD/CIA/MI6 (agencies listed in order of importance), operatives for the Western Oligarchs.

    By the Numbers:

    1. Lack of patience, led the Imperialist Power Elite to apply too much pressure – too quickly. Their masks removed, they forced the Russians to make the decision “To Be or Not to Be?” – while Russians yet retained the moral and physical ability to RESIST.

    2. The Imperialists concentrated their best trained and armed Soldiers in the East, (right next to Russia, and Russian avenues of supply and other military reinforcement). In Mariupol, and Luhansk and Donbas, they have already lost the best of their Army.

    3. They continue to increase the Pressure & Threats AGAINST RUSSIA’S – THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE’S VERY SURVIVAL. It is the Russian people, and their Soldiers who have nowhere to retreat, who must FIGHT OR DIE!

    A. Russia’s President Vladimir Putin said on the first day of their military intervention – WEST, that Russia had no land left. They had nowhere to retreat to. Putin’s statement was a paraphrasing of Stalin‘s call to Resist at STALINGRAD. Stalin said that Russia ended at the Volga; there was no more land to retreat to. In other words, Russian Soldiers had to stand and fight at Stalingrad. After Stalingrad, Russia’s soldiers began to move West, until they reached Berlin.

    4. The Western Zio-Imperialists are leaving Russians (and Chinese, and Palestinians, Iranians, Syrians, Afghanis, Houthis, -almost all other nations), only one option for survival. FIGHT or DIE.
    Vladimir Putin and his fellow Power Elites have not suddenly become Revolutionists. They have been offered no other option.

    There is no need to again list the blunders of the Russian Power elite. Slavskiy has done that for us.

    Conclusion:

    It is all Good! It is all lawful! This is the only direction the History of humankind could move in. In our America, we might even decide that our Very Survival as a People depends on our Restoring our Republic, which was destroyed in the ZIO/MOSSAD/CIA/MI6 Coup D’état of November 22, 1963, along with the murder of our last Constitutional President, John F. Kennedy, and, later, his brother.

    We The People!

    Dr. Peter J. Antonsen

  83. @meamjojo

    Drafted citizens are not soldiers. What can you expect from a 50something year old guy who works in an office and you just give him a gun and throw him into a war? Take millions more like him and it doesnt matter. Theyre just cannon fodder against better equipped and trained soldiers.

    • Agree: GMC
    • Replies: @meamjojo
  84. Arnieus says:

    I conclude Ukraine is a “debacle” planned a couple hours after Russia wiped out the CIA/Mossad terrorist army ISIS. Syria, one of the planned invasions listed famously by Gen. Wesley Clark was near collapse. What the US military could not openly do, was being accomplished by rebranded al-CIAda. Who cares. Assad would be gone. Some Zellensky-like puppet would concede the oil-rich currently occupied Golan and pipelines everywhere. For appearances sake the US pretended to attack ISIS while really providing air cover. Obama and Hillary’s brilliant plan and the media prattle on about fighting terrorism.

    Then out of nowhere a global black comedy unfolds as Russia volunteers to HELP. As a long-time ally of Assad where an important Russian naval base is located, Putin answered the call and sent in his shiny new air force. How could Obama protest getting help with fighting those horrible head choppers. Putin obviously knew exactly what ISIS was. Putin had dared to get off his knees and thwart a major globalist goal in Syria. Russia gained the numero-uno spot on the enemies list.

    It was not long after that the Ukraine coup was planned and executed, with a long-term goal of deploying a military presence to take on Russia. The western puppet leader chosen by Victoria Nuland would take the money and cooperate with the nefarious globalist criminal activities in Ukraine. Putin obviously realized the threat and has decided to hit first. This is going to get much worse because the pirate banker clans in the west want to hide their crimes in the fog of war. If they lose, Jewish-American petro-dollar empire loses its clout. NATO is all in.

    • Agree: Durruti, Robert Bruce
    • Replies: @Durruti
    , @antibeast
  85. @Peter Akuleyev

    “Everyone knows that life is shit in the DNR/LNR – rampant poverty and corruption, no decent jobs”

    Yeah???? So why was Ukraine so intent to hold them under the thumb and not implement the Minsk Agreements then?? I would think Ukraine would have been happy to get rid of them. And why since 2014 did so many of those people move into Russia??

    And if Poland improved so much then why do so many of them still flood the west of Europe?

    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev
  86. @Mustapha Mond

    Good points… Seemed to me Patrick Armstrong said without saying that he was threatened for being supposedly “pro Russian” and would be stopping for a while. Has he started re-posting?

    • Replies: @Mustapha Mond
  87. That’s actually a very good analysis of the situation and seems to be completely shill free, either paid for or that comes naturally, as seems to be in Anglin’s case.

    The bottom line is the Putin’s regime is utterly incompetent although it may be hard to believe for americans who are used to think that the american elites are incompetent — well, turns out that there are levels to that, and it takes some outside pressure for this incompetence to be uncovered, which is what we see in these military failures in Ukraine, such as a failed paradrop, a failed Kiev takeover etc.

    For whatever obscure reason, american dissidents tend to look at Putin through some rose-colored glasses and articles like this help this stupidity to go down a bit.

    • Agree: peterAUS
    • Replies: @haha
  88. What I learn from this great informative work is this, politicians wherever they exist are just as corrupt and despicable as the PIGs (Pigs In Government) we have here in US.

    It’s no wonder why we have large Israeli trained ZioNazi police state swat teams busting down doors of conservative patriots and running security for GlobalHomoLand Security under Alejandro MayFukUNtheazz.

    This despicable pos and the illegitimate Brandon regime are more concerned about white supremacists aka domestic terrorists than actual black and brown thugs, gangbanggers and illegals who are the real Supremacists and domestic terrorists.

  89. iseeit says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    Lol….

    Okay….

    Now go back to your regular PROGRAMMING genius-:

  90. Anon[258] • Disclaimer says:
    @MotGOD

    YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWN !!!

    Your comment is sheer nonsense. Germany invaded Russia. FACT ! What Russia intended or did not intend at that point in time is a matter for speculation, conjecture and is irrelevant. It is the same as saying “I saw him put his hand in his pocket, I thought he had a gun, I thought he would kill me, so instead I shot him ” . The twaddle you assert is the old legal trick of brushing aside a fact with a probability.

    Operation Thunderbolt was the Israeli operation to free the hostages from Idi Amin in Uganda. You are confused ! I am talking about Operation Barbarossa. You need to stop looking at those Juz propaganda movies.

    Now, if Vlad escalates there will be no response from the West just as there was no response from the West:
    -In Georgia
    -In Ossettia
    -Crimea
    -Syria
    -Ukraine

    Wise up!

    If there is a response from the West said West will be reduced to bricks as well.

    There are other inconsistencies and conflicting points in your comment. Quotes:

    — a literal stab in the back meant to put all of Europe under the Russian Gulag.
    -The real provocation was to make war on Ukraine, justified by sick lies about “Ebil Not-sees” and other very Jewish folderol, and to threaten nuclear terrorism, etc.
    -If your dad Vlad escalates too far it will mean the extinction of the Russian people
    — while some in the west, perhaps some of the best, will survive
    — to recolonize the world
    — and someday write the sad history of the extinct “Russian Nation”.

    One minute you state Russia wanted to put us under the Russian Gulag and the next minute you are talking about the “sad history of the Russian Nation”. Your comment is 100% a steaming pile of shit from a brain that is 100% shit. As for Berlin being reduced, the whole rest of the world was in on it. Where did you study history by the way ? In Tel Aviv ?

    Overall your comment is dumb and so are you. If you are going to refute a comment here on UR please try to be intelligent and consistent. Newsflash to you: There wont be anyone left to recolonize the world or a world left to colonize you dunce.

    What the initial explosions dont kill will be finished off by the remaining radiation. Hopefully, you will go first as the last thing we want is the probability of an idiot like you remaining to pollute the world with your offspring.

    • Agree: Drapetomaniac
    • Replies: @MotGOD
  91. Dumbo says:

    What about, those stupid Ukrainians just give up the Donbass /Southeastern Ukraine, which is mostly populated by Russian-speaking people who’d rather be independent or under Russian control anyway, and in exchange they get a seat in the EU, or Pride Parades, or whatever they want that is not a threat to Russia?

    Who wants to start WWIII about a region populated by poor white people that no one had heard about before?

    This whole “stand for Ukraine” thing, and sending them weapons in order to increase the conflict is downright bizarre. Their country is being destroyed, there’s 5 million refugees who will probably never come back, what do Ukrainian people “win” even if they win?

    The only ones who win here are the US and people in the military-industrial complex. Even for Western Europe this one is a lose-lose.

  92. Durruti says:
    @Arnieus

    I conclude Ukraine is a “debacle” planned a couple hours after Russia wiped out the CIA/Mossad terrorist army ISIS. Syria, one of the planned invasions listed famously by Gen. Wesley Clark was near collapse. What the US military could not openly do, was being accomplished by rebranded al-CIAda. Who cares. Assad would be gone. Some Zellensky-like puppet would concede the oil-rich currently occupied Golan and pipelines everywhere. For appearances sake the US pretended to attack ISIS while really providing air cover. Obama and Hillary’s brilliant plan and the media prattle on about fighting terrorism.

    Excellent essay by Arnieus, that links the Chronology of:

    1. the Zionist imperialist-terror assault on Syria (for the construction of Eretz Israel and expansion
    of their World Power).

    2. the Russian counterattack in Syria (Naval Base, Air Base, elite troops).

    3. the Zio/American/puppeted European NATO response in Kievan Russ (overthrow of the neutralist elected government in favor of one of their puppets).

    4. and the UNEXPECTED Russian Self Defense of their Western lands (with Soldiers, with Tanks,
    with Artillery, with Navy, with Airforce, with bullets flying and with – – – – – – – – – –

    5. The Revival – the Rebirth – of The (Their) Russian Nation.

    One day we will pay them back for 11/22/1963.

  93. @Anonymous

    “Biowarfare is a bad investment at the present time.”

    I agree but that doesn’t prevent true believers from selling it and other true believers from buying it.

  94. Midge says:

    Putin came to power with the goal of finding a place for Russia in the West, a goal he seems to never been able to entirely let go of. But he knows the score: Russia was not ready to take on the combined West. If Hillary had won in 2016, Russia would have been targeted then and probably have been too weak to prevail. That’s reason enough for Russia to have kept the pro-Russians in Ukraine at arm’s length. But the intervening years have seen Russia’s military and diplomatic position improve considerably, while giving it time to fortify its economy against even the hardest sanctions regime. Here Russia’s superb relations with China are crucial: Even if the US thinks it can prevail against Russia in a conventional war in Europe, it now has to consider the possibility of tens or hundreds of thousands of Chinese troops deploying to Russia’s western border and becoming a full participant in the war (given the alternative — that China would be left facing the victorious West alone and be compelled to defend its northern border — it is not that unlikely). All this only became possible in 2022, not 2016 or before. Putin should therefore be credited for having had the good sense to build Russia’s strength to the point where it can check the US’s power (despite being outspent 20x more on military by the US and its vassals). Even so, Putin is probably very wary of overreaching, including in the Ukraine phase of his stand off with the US/NATO, and maybe he is wise to be so.

  95. G J T says:
    @gT

    overthrow the yoke of the NeoNazi oppression

    The most Jewish regime in history outside “Israel.” The oppression is literally as opposite of “neo-Nazi” as is imaginable. The internalizing and incessant parroting of this buzzword by armchair political analysts on every side has launched the entire production into a previously-undiscovered stratosphere of fake and gay. As soon as I see someone unironically framing this conflict as one involving opposition to the great NSDAP or its legacy, I have learned all I need to know about the discernment that person possesses and the quality of their takes.

    why Putin wants to save civilian lives in Ukraine when most of them are not actually worth saving. But the civilians in Donetsk and Lugansk are definitely worth saving

    So average white Ukrainians, whose lives are being destroyed by a gaggle of psychopaths, and whose interests factor into the conflict precisely zero, are not worthy of living. But the Stalin-worshipping Russian proxy insurgents who’ve been actively waging war on the government and their fellow citizens for years, to them the moral supremacy and right to life is designated. At the risk of being redundant, are you an actual communist or just equal parts despicable and intellectually-challenged?

    I hope all the Putin shills on the dissident-right who post here take careful note of these comments/sentiments, because even if this person is not a Russian himself, he is certainly expressing the attitudes of the Russian regime and many average Russians who adhere to the regime’s ideology. I’m not a hater of the Russian people and won’t judge them as a whole, but this ‘innocent good guy Russians vs evil ZOG Ukrainians’ paradigm being constructed by D-R Putin shills is ludicrous and infantile.

    • Replies: @Drapetomaniac
    , @gT
  96. @G J T

    I am for self-assortment. Freedom from things like you.

    You are for the psychopathic power structures that are destroying civilization.

    • Replies: @G J T
  97. Fascinating idea here. The west won’t approve of Putin and the Russians no matter what they do or do not do. Why don’t the Russians just ignore us and tell the Ukrainians, “We come as conquerors. Deal with it.” Can’t make them any less popular outside Russia, and as the author suggests, it would give neutral Ukrainians a reason to commit.

  98. antibeast says:
    @Arnieus

    I conclude Ukraine is a “debacle” planned a couple hours after Russia wiped out the CIA/Mossad terrorist army ISIS.

    Putin had dared to get off his knees and thwart a major globalist goal in Syria.

    It was not long after that the Ukraine coup was planned and executed, with a long-term goal of deploying a military presence to take on Russia.

    Your timeline is wrong. Russia intervened militarily in Syria on September 30, 2015 after not before the Maidan Revolution which took place during the month of February 2014. Here’s a map of the airstrikes carried out by the Russian Air Force in Syria, nineteen months after the ‘Ukraine Coup’:

    The planning and execution of the ‘Ukraine Coup’ started much earlier, way back in February 2008, when Ukraine was offered NATO membership during the Bucharest Summit, as explained by Professor John Mearsheimer in the video interview below:

    Interestingly, the Ministry of Truth of the so-called ‘Collective West’ has decided to censor Mearsheimer’s views as ‘politically incorrect’ which was aired on the Chinese State-owned TV network CGTN but not on the Western MSM.

    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
    , @GMC
  99. Goyim who graduated the Jewish-run obedience school and sold as ‘your leaders’.

  100. Ace says:
    @Levtraro

    The Azov types are acting like hooligans and such people cannot be the backbone of anything with popular support or military competence. Thugs like to shoot people in the legs, hold hostages, and gun down civilians heedless of the consequences, just for sheer bloody mindedness. No decent man wants to fight alongside or under such trash.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  101. Thanks for this very interesting perspective on the relationship between Ukraine and Russia.

    My roommate in Chengyang (Shandong) in 2012 was Ukrainian. They were a group from Belarus, Ukraine, Kazakhstan all learning Chinese and they spoke Russian between themselves. However I learn that eight years after Maidan everyone now speaks Ukrainian over there. I read yesterday an interview with Olga Baysha at ConsortiumNews who says that after promoting the Western Ukrainian agenda over the whole of the Ukraine the emotional links between the Russian language and Ukrainians have waned markedly for maybe half of the population. So it seems the social fabric of Ukraine is difficult to comprehend right now.

    Why Putin’s own government struggles to follow his lead is, frankly, infuriating to say the least.

    My understanding is that Russia was still weak height years ago and it didn’t have the means to oppose the US/UK/NATO/Neoliberal agenda in Ukraine. The Russian position is now much improved on all fronts. Even back in February Putin was very hesitant to confront the West and the initiative of the confrontation goes to the US themselves when they pushed Kiev to increase the shelling on the Donbas area and to start talking about invading Crimea. Russia was not really prepared to go to war and they are in the learning mode I would say. This is really a complex situation to be in.

  102. Agent76 says:

    April 23, 2022 U.S. and NATO Fuel War in Ukraine “To Make it Permanent”

    The news preceding the interview and Gagnon’s analysis confirm the seriousness of the situation. Having initiated with the 2014 coup in Kiev the sequence of events that led to the Russian military operation in Ukraine, the United States and NATO are doing everything they can to fuel this war in Europe, making it permanent.

    http://marktaliano.net/u-s-and-nato-fuel-war-in-ukraine-to-make-it-permanent-by-manlio-dinucci-and-bruce-gagnon/

  103. Ace says:
    @gT

    Russia did nothing when the US bombed the Serbs and detached Kosovo but they properly did not tolerate separatism in Chechnya or NATO attacks in S. Ossetia. Putin reacted to a threat to its naval presence in Syria and to jihadi encroachment on the Caucasus but has not reacted to provocations in Syria.

    Behind this is the long-term strategy to recover from collapse of the USSR, field a first-class military, and not kick every barking dog. With NATO/US relentless encroachment reaching a critical point, the Russians decided to act on a matter of existential importance, but their hand was forced. This was, however, still with a certain confidence born of the sure knowledge that any person on the planet except US officials and politicians has that the iron laws of economic arithmetic are working inexorably against the US in particular and the West in general. Not to mention what anyone not in DC can see, namely, that the US is in a steep dive politically and culturally. \$33B for Ukraine with a wide-open southern border is just lunacy but no one in DC can see that. NO one.

    Maybe it would have been better to wait another year or maybe two years and let the US bridge with the cracked girder collapse of its own weight. However, I trust the Russian judgment of what priorities to establish. Any assessment of the US domestic situation, however, can not but see it demonstrates 30-80 years of betrayal and pig ignorance and that catastrophe is in the near future for the US.

    • Replies: @frankie p
  104. Ace says:
    @meamjojo

    Any idea on who went first?

  105. @Kurt Knispel

    I was taught all my life about evil Russians and had the Jewish Holocaust shoved down my brain so deep that once I had awaken, it took years of reconditioning to overcome the damage inflicted inside me.
    The same indoctrination is taking place now, by demanding I bow and take a knee to support GlobalHomo, Militant Magik Negro thugs, millions of wetbacks and a political military armed police state that has declared me a white supremacist and domestic terrorist for no other reason than the color of my skin and for my beliefs.

    If Russia falls, whites everywhere will be hunted and systematically executed until they cease to exit.

    We will be blamed for everything wrong with civilization, everything.

    • Thanks: Ace
  106. @antibeast

    …explained by Professor John Mearsheimer…

    This guy is basically a charlatan on European issues. As I have explained in a different thread, his entire narrative and derivative conjectures (“What if Mexico…?“) collapse upon serious scrutiny. The content of the agreement between NATO and Russia, signed in 1997 in Paris, two years before its initial eastward expansion, destroys the entire basis of his entire story, which is why he never mentions it, as if it did not exist. His “view” or approach is both antiquated, misleading and fraudulent, therefore irrelevant, and that is much worse than merely being “politically incorrect” (which usually refers to something that is empirically true but inconvenient). He has therefore become the academic darling of Russian propagandists. Western media are too lazy or stupid to bother deconstructing his nonsense, so they prefer to just censor him.

    • Troll: Olivier1973
    • Replies: @Ace
    , @antibeast
  107. @Ace

    The West fully support all this. No criticism there of any of this.

  108. Blissex says:
    @Humbert Humbert

    «I was helping this Ukranian girl to get her giant luggage off the train in Stuttgart beginning of April, and she only knew English, not German. Turns out, Germany is helping them relocate»

    Germany has a huge natality problem, and german business and real estate owners want a lot more immigrants to keep wages low and rents high. Their fathers and grandfathers have been telling them how much money they made from turkish immigrants in the 50s and 60s, and they want to repeat that opportunity.

  109. Blissex says:
    @MallochBrown

    «all playing A destabilizing game to maintain dominance over the potential of a dynamic modern Russia»#

    It is Brzinski’s game, and before him that of Pilsudski:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheism
    «Prometheism or Prometheanism (Polish: Prometeizm) was a political project initiated by Józef Piłsudski, statesman of the Second Polish Republic from 1918 to 1935. Its aim was to weaken the Russian Empire and its successor states, including the Soviet Union, by supporting nationalist independence movements among the major non-Russian peoples that lived within the borders of Russia and the Soviet Union. Between the World Wars, Prometheism and Piłsudski’s other concept, of an “Intermarium federation”, constituted two complementary geopolitical strategies for him and for some of his political heirs. […] Marshal Piłsudski, who as early as 1904, in a memorandum to the Japanese government, pointed out the need to employ, in the struggle against Russia, the numerous non-Russian nations that inhabited the basins of the Baltic, Black and Caspian Seas»

  110. Blissex says:
    @awry

    «Russia was much less prepared to sanctions then so the Kremlin didn’t risk a total war, despite that they could have won then. »

    That too, but most importantly the context was the 2008 defense of south-Ossetia from Saakashvili’s war of aggression: even if the georgian forces were mostly a rabble of far-right extremist ethnic-cleansers, the Russian Federation forces had considerable difficulties pushing them back, and the war showed how disorganised and weak the Russian Federation military has become.

    I guess that it took a long time to re-train and re-organize them and make them more effective, and they were not ready in 2014.

  111. @Verymuchalive

    The demands will be very much greater now.

    Like a Kherson PR, then a Zaporoje PR, then a Nikolaev PR, then a Dniepropetrovsk PR, then a Kharkov PR, then an Odessa PR, etc.

    • Replies: @Ace
  112. peterAUS says:

    He’s trolling, but still:

    Now, some Putintards would, probably, think: “well, when YOU are so smart/smug/whatever, why don’t YOU say what would YOU advise RF top decision makers if asked the same question”.
    Here it is: “Glad you’ve asked. I’d say I don’t know now. Had you asked me that very question in November last year I would’ve had a lot to say, of course. Not anymore, I am afraid.
    I am more than content to simply watch this debacle keeping unfolding. For one reason only: maybe, just maybe, the kleptocracy in Kremlin gets replaced by something better.”

    • Troll: emerging majority
  113. annamaria says:
    @Notsofast

    The US Zionists’ dearest: “Declassification of documents exposing Banderite crimes”
    https://www.voltairenet.org/article216718.html

    The Russian government has declassified documents relating to the trials of banderites at the end of the Great Patriotic War (World War II).

    These documents bring light to the atrocious war crimes perpetrated by the banderites against Ukrainian civilians, in 1944 and 1945, during the retreat of the Nazis faced with the advancing Soviet Army. In particular, a document from the ministry devoted to the eastern territories occupied by the Third Reich, headed by Alfred Rosenberg, uncovers a plan for the complete annihilation of the Donbass and its population by Nazi forces and their Banderite collaborators.

    These events were ignored in present-day Ukraine. Indeed, since the end of the Second World War, the Banderites and the Nazis of the Anti-Bolshevik Bloc of Nations (ABN) have patiently rewritten the history of their country. Out of any reality, their version has become the current Holy Bible of the Ukrainians.

    The ABN documents can be accessed on our site:
    ABN Correspondence (en anglais) 1950-2000 https://www.voltairenet.org not /article216616.html
    ABN Korrespondenz (en allemand) 1949-55
    Ukrainian Quarterly (en anglais) 1944-85 https://www.voltairenet.org/article216622.html
    Please send us any other documents that you might have.

    The history of Banderites’s artrocities in Poland: https://justice4poland.com/2016/09/30/unthinkable-atrocities-of-banderites-which-the-polish-will-never-forget-18/

    Polish website had collected 362 different examples of torture and brutality used by the “heroes of Ukraine” in the early 40’s of the last century against the Poles. Of course, all of these were used against the Russians, and in general against all who did not share the ideas of Bandera and refused to become an accomplice to the Nazi occupiers. But the Poles did a great job restoring the historical facts about the atrocities of the bad people from the UPA.

    “There are no words to describe in just a few sentences the crimes committed by Ukrainian Nazis against the Poles in 1939-1947. The hatred that fuelled the killers, who would use such horrible methods to kill their victims, does not fit into human understanding.

    Below is the result of years of research by Alexander Korman, who described 362 methods of physical and psychological torture inflicted by terrorists on the Poles by the OUN and the UPA… There were 39 methods of torture for small children alone.

    Some pedigree:

    https://www.voltairenet.org/article216622.html

    • Thanks: Notsofast
    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  114. Ace says:
    @Been_there_done_that

    So what is in the NATO-Russia Founding Act that undercuts Mearsheimer’s analysis?

    The Act has no impact on NATO enlargement according to the linked fact sheet above. How might this have committed Russia to accept any and all NATO expansion? Maybe that’s not your point, in which I await news from you.

  115. Good read sir . Putin’s just dumb. He may be the best bureaucrat of Russia since Stalin but his tactics and strategies of war and propaganda efforts (as you note) are dumb. Why not even tell your troops you’re invading so they can properly prepare logistics and such? Surprise surprise Rooskie derp while Ukraine/US guessed right months ahead and prepared. Not to mention so nation can mobilize (or not)? I’d feel suckered into this at this point if were a Russian when he finally decides to mobilize for real. Bad for moral from the start. Why is he keeping NATO’s choice as Central Bank head? Ton of other blunders. I’m nominally pro-russian as in I believe I believe in multi-lateralism Russia and China are claiming to wish for to offset the Neo-liberal western borg which seeks to turn every society into a soulless low wage consumerism but Putin is the wrong man for the job period. Need a hard core Nationalist or Socialist.

    • Agree: peterAUS
    • Troll: Notsofast
  116. @allgoodnamestaken

    NO recent history, then a spew of moronic lies. It must be wakey-wakey time in Lvov.

    • Replies: @allgoodnamestaken
  117. @annamaria

    And these MONSTERS, and similar Croats, Slovenes, Belarussians, Balts etc, were made welcome in Austfailia after the war, were hailed as members of ‘Captive Nations’, built memorials to Bandera et al as ‘heroes’, inculcated this demonic hatred in their spawn, entered local politics as a force for hard Right Evil, and were maintained by the USA and Five Eyes until they could return to wreak horror and terror on their victims, again.
    On a side point, yesterday being the anniversary of the liberation of Vietnam, a motley crew of aged pimps, madams, death-squad goons and other ‘human’ detritus, assembled outside the Vietnam Embassy here, declaring their desire to see that Government overturned. Waving the flag of the ‘South’ Vietnam death-squad regime. So the Evil never, ever, rests. While most local Vietnamese happily accept history, traveling to and from Vietnam to see relatives and holiday, as ever there is a hard-core of fascist thugs, loyal to and supported by the Great Satan in Thanatopolis DC, and his minions, like the failed society that once was Australia.

    • Replies: @JR Foley
  118. @Midge

    This disaster, one of the last, if not the last if it fulminates badly, in human history, has its roots in that moment when the first predator amoeba engulfed the first victim. More recently, when the first ‘exceptional’ hominid bashed the brains out of some schmuck whose mate, or food, or whatever the predator coveted. or because he liked doing it.
    Put in terms of philosophy or religion, specifically moral ponerology, this is insatiable Evil, that recognises no limits to its desires and impulses, against defensive Good, that has been backed into a corner by monsters who cannot do otherwise. The USA has devastated more countries, killed more people, polluted more of the planet with its innumerable, metastatic, ‘bases’, than all the other countries in history combined. As long as it exists as it does and always has done, human destruction is CERTAIN.

    • Replies: @nokangaroos
  119. @mulga mumblebrain

    That was my first post here dude. What lies? That putin is so dumb that he let Central Bankers steal 350 billlion of hard earned Russian Cash because he was trying to be slick in depetion with his KGB background and hide the fact he was invading? Dude’s not a wartime president get over it. Err..i mean special military operation President.

  120. @MLK

    Incisive posting. Thanks.

  121. Not too sure what to make of Saker’s plight. To be honest, I am not all in on him as much anymore. If you ask questions as to why Putin doesn’t ramp the operation into full gear, to get it over with as it is indeed an existential war, he doesn’t publish your response to any war article updates. He published an order to the mods not to print such stuff as he seemed it stupid. Sorry, but questioning the lack of speed and decisiveness of the operation is far from being stupid. Paul Craig Roberts recently took him to task in a recent column. The operation has been hampered every which way, with Russia trying to be cute and fighting with one arm tied behind it’s back. End the damn thing before a potential nasty escalation now!!! Sure in a month or two, they get the entire eastern half of the nation, plus the Odessa region, but does Putin not think a western rump of Ukraine won’t be used as a forward missile base? This thing was/ is for all the marbles, and Putin is messing around. Is it hubris? I don’t know, but the Saker will lose alot of credibility if things go south quick. People are starting to wonder, as I am already. A quick victory would have ended everything with no NATO meddling being allowed to happen. Maybe it is Putin playing 5th dimension chess and is hoping that the West bleeds to death economically sooner than later, but I think Western leaders have already shown their absolute disdain for their “subjects”. This whole thing makes one go “Hmmm”.

  122. @meamjojo

    When it comes to waging biowarfare – beginning with the Korean and Vietnam War, 9/11 Anthrax attacks, Chinese Swine and Poultry Flue, and Covid 19 attacks on China, Afghanistan and entire world, no other country comes anywhere close to the United States.

  123. dimples says:
    @GMC

    I’m inclined to think “Been_there_done_that” is the site’s resident Disinformation Governance Board sex woker.

    • LOL: dogbumbreath
  124. Anonymous[249] • Disclaimer says:
    @Midge

    You would probably be interested in this strategic analysis of the entire Earth, Peter Zeihan | The Changing Character of War | Maneuver Center of Excellence, 1 month ago.

    Zeihan sees quite a few things that few other people see, things that are obvious once stated. He does not discuss the political situation beyond saying that mumblebrain will get his wish and the US stands a good chance of withdrawing from the world. Note, from the questions, how Zeihan’s lecture goes completely over the heads of the US Army personnel, who are not used to thinking in Zeihan’s level of abstraction.

    Note also that Zeihan says little directly about the Ukraine/Russian Federation (RF) conflict, and does not mention any possible merging of RF with members of the European Union (EU), although such an alliance is an obvious survival move for RF and EU , but simply restricts himself to the 9 or so geographical invasion routes from the West and South into Russia. I think these two omissions show that Zeihan has a sense of political self preservation, which is a good thing.

  125. dimples says:
    @allgoodnamestaken

    “Surprise surprise Rooskie derp while Ukraine/US guessed right months ahead and prepared. ”

    Not so. Right up to the invasion Zelensky was saying that he did not think there would be any invasion. Also Uke troops stuck in Donbass ready to invade breakaway provinces did not get a move on. Now surrounded and outgunned, so deception appears to have had positive results. Too bad about cash in Euro banks though.

    • Replies: @allgoodnamestaken
  126. antibeast says:
    @Been_there_done_that

    You may not want to believe Mearsheimer’s views on NATO expansion to Eastern Europe but here’s Gorbachev’s views on the same subject:

    If that’s not enough, then surely you would have to believe Putin’s opposition to NATO membership for Ukraine and Georgia when he spoke during the Bucharest Summit back in April 2008:

    Four months later, Russia invaded Georgia in August 2008. After Viktor Yanukovych’s election in February 2010, the US Deep State made up covert plans to depose the pro-Russian politician in a reprise of the Orange Revolution that took place in 2004 which is exactly what happened during the Maiden Revolution that took place in February 2014. The end-goal of that ‘Ukraine Coup’ was simple: to prepare and admit Ukraine for membership in NATO which was opposed by Putin when he spoke in the Bucharest Summit back in April 2008.

    In the fourteen years since Putin voiced his opposition to Ukraine’s NATO membership, the issue has finally reached boiling point as Russian intelligence managed to discover the covert acts of the US Deep State to turn Ukraine into a de-facto US-NATO military base, made manifest by Putin’s ‘SMO’ which has uncovered material evidence of such an existential threat to the national survival of the Russian State.

    I think you’re just belaboring the issue of NATO’s expansion to Eastern Europe which had been opposed by both Putin and Gorbachev who have publicly voiced their opposition to what they view as a grave threat to the national survival of the Russian State, as shown by the videos above. The existential threat to Russia posed by NATO’s expansion to Eastern Europe is acknowledged not only by American intellectuals such as Professor John Mearsheimer but also by Russian intellectuals such as Alexander Dugin who predicted quite presciently that Russia would inevitably invade Ukraine after the Maidan Revolution in February 2014. And that is exactly what happened to Ukraine in February 2022.

  127. frankie p says:
    @Ace

    “Putin reacted to a threat to its naval presence in Syria and to jihadi encroachment on the Caucasus but has not reacted to provocations in Syria.”

    This is not an accurate portrayal of the Russian goals and accomplishments in Syria. Russia joined the action in Syria with clear objectives. The main objective was to provide support, mostly with air power, for the government of Bashar al-Assad, which was in serious danger of being overrun by western, Gulf-Arab State, and Turkish supported Daesh. Russia’s goals for this engagement were clear from the beginning, and there were limitations to Russian willingness to engage. I don’t know what provocations you are talking about that the Russian’s haven’t reacted to, but I imagine you’re talking about Israeli and American belligerence. I think it’s important to keep in mind the Russian objectives for the theater, and understand why they did not allow provocations to result in escalation. Soleimani was responsible for convincing the Russians to join the alliance to help Syria for the benefit of all: Iran, Hezbollah and Lebanon, and Russia. A fall of the al-Assad government and a subsequent Daesh State would have caused serious problems for all these players. I’m sure that Soleimani gave assurances that Iran and Hezbollah would provide the ground forces for the fighting, and it’s clear that they did so, successfully.

    In a nutshell, I see Russia as having achieved the goals for the mission in Syria. The government of al-Assad fought off the Daesh threat and consolidated its power in the nation, pushing the headchoppers into Idlib. The Americans still have forces on the other side of the Eurphrates, but their time is limited; they will have to leave or come under pressure as the SAR becomes more stable and looks to reclaim ALL its territory. The Americans are hanging out because “ALL its territory” includes the Golan Heights, and the longer the Americans, pawns of the Zionists, stay in the east, the longer the Israelis will have control of the Golan.

    • Thanks: emerging majority
  128. meamjojo says:
    @emerging majority

    Yet another under educated UNZ idiot who lives in an isolated echo chamber, fearing any info that doesn’t match his nonsense beliefs.

  129. haha says:
    @allgoodnamestaken

    “Putin is the wrong man for the job period.”

    You are probably right. But the whole painful truth may be “Putin is the wrong man ruling a wrong country”.

    Russia seems never to have fully recovered from the collapse of the Soviet Union. China successfully transitioned from a closed communist system to a much more open post-communist system with its state, institutions, economy, civilization, and pride in national identity getting stronger and stronger. Russia has still not transitioned successfully. In some ways it remains a post-communist disaster state and country, with its civilization and national pride deeply wounded.

    • Agree: meamjojo
    • Disagree: RadicalCenter
  130. meamjojo says:
    @Freedomstillisntfree

    “Drafted citizens are not soldiers. What can you expect from a 50something year old guy who works in an office and you just give him a gun and throw him into a war? Take millions more like him and it doesnt matter. Theyre just cannon fodder against better equipped and trained soldiers.”

    The point you wanted to make is what? That there aren’t 15+million Ukrainian soldiers capable of battling against Russia’s 150k or so?

    This is why everyone is saying that Putin is going to have to announce a national conscription on his upcoming special May 9th date. Too many of his soldiers are dying and he needs more bodies. Historically, attacking Ukraine will be called Putin’s folly.

  131. haha says:
    @huwhyte ppl

    Putin’s incompetence is the incompetence of a very smart man who somehow still lacks a few smarts. Very eminent thinkers and thinkers have had their intellectual weaknesses. Unfortunately, the smarts that Putin lacks may outweigh the huge number of smarts that he does possess. And the government and state structures that he presides over have no shortage of incompetents, plain fools, crooks, thieves, opportunists, yes-men, traitors, and bureaucrats brimming with drabness and dullness.

    The American elites are incompetent in a different sort of way. Many are personally very smart and clever people. It is just that their smarts are wrapped in “Self before service” rather than “Service before self”. This, combined with the general American ignorance and dismissiveness about the rest of the world, makes America act clumsily and dangerously on the international stage. Nevertheless, in terms of effective state power, the American state is a far more effective state than the Russian state – effective in terms of raw power, not in terms of beneficial power.

    Just my two cents.

  132. @antibeast

    …the US Deep State made up covert plans to depose the pro-Russian politician…

    What specific and documented plans are you even alluding to? The pro-Russian politician Yanukovych, a kleptocrat who stole roughly \$100 billion from the treasury, was responsible for deaths of protesters, therefore widely reviled, and basically surrendered, as I pointed out above (#72). Why are you bewailing the voluntary departure of this criminal mass murderer?

    Just because Gorbachev and Putin did not like (“opposed“) NATO expansion and Mearsheimer did not think it was a good idea does not mean that Russia therefore had a moral or legal right to violate agreements and engage in threats of violence or attempted blackmail, much less to initiate its still ongoing war of aggression.

    Like Mearsheimer, you cannot make a valid argument to support Russia’s position because you ignore both the facts of the Königsberg / Kaliningrad occupation and the ballistic missiles placed there, as well as the content of the 1997 Paris agreement between Russia and NATO, both of which invalidate the phony narratives used to cover up or obfuscate Russia’s true intent.

    I have explained many times why Russia has itself to blame for having provoked a desire for its European neighbors to join NATO because of the military threat it posed. Mearsheimer essentially maintains that their concerns do not matter because Russia should be entitled to its own “sphere of influence” that entails their subjugated, which violates most basic legal principles.

    Aside from all that, in your response you have engaged in at least two logical fallacies:
    – Post hoc ergo propter hoc
    – Argumentum ad verecundiam

    • Thanks: meamjojo
    • Replies: @antibeast
    , @Anon
  133. peterAUS says:

    https://anti-empire.com/ukraine-is-doing-everything-it-can-to-win-russia-isnt-even-doing-basic-stuff/
    As for:

    Russia will have Donbass, and Ukrainians, as far as they will be concerned, will have the bragging rights.

    I’d add:

    They’ll, both, have a fiery stalemate. For now.

    • Replies: @nokangaroos
    , @annamaria
  134. G J T says:
    @Drapetomaniac

    At what point did you glean from my post that I am somehow in support of such groups and institutions? Your comment must be clarified if I’m to understand what exactly you’re implying about my worldview and allegiances (which are to my race, nation and (true) brothers in Christ.

    Brief as your reply is, you appear to want to associate me with some kind of support for the Ukrainian regime. The very type of binary, childish simplification of the conflict most are unable to overcome.

    Again, clarification is welcome.

    • Replies: @Drapetomaniac
  135. Chris Moore says: • Website

    All of these “Putin should do this” and “Russia should do that” critics fail to take into account that they themselves have failed in the fight against the Serpent. They remind me of Paul Craig Robert’s, a very smart man but a failed man and a big egomaniac who collaborated with the Serpent for the most important decades of his career but now that he is retired can suddenly see with clarity what Putin must do to vanquish the Serpent ‐‐ and save his own children’s future.

    Where was he when it mattered? Now he wants to play armchair warrior?

    Putin himself has a mixed history when it comes to relations with the Serpent, but at least he has seen it for what it is and is making his stand today ‐‐ something all these fallen Western armchair critics can only dream of.

    How much can the tainted opinions of fallen whores really be worth? Why don’t they open up a Western front against the Serpent? Because they’re comfortable whores who like the easy living that the Serpent is providing them, knowing full well it will eventually consume their children.

    So they’re cowards, collaborators and whores.

    Why should Putin, the one man with the moxie to really have a go at taking down the Serpent, be shamed by kike suckers? Where do they get that kind of chutzpah?

    They’ve been rubbing shoulders the wrong crowd too long. And think they know why the West is dying? They need to look in the mirror.

    • Agree: annamaria
  136. Mikhail says: • Website
    @Here Be Dragon

    Two excerpts from the above re-posted article (which I’m not necessarily in full agreement with) are worthy of follow-up:

    Hell, I personally knew a few pro-Russia journalists in Kiev. I asked them if they had any help or support or even had any contact with anyone in the Russian government. Protection, money, support, a Christmas card? The answer was always a resounding, “sadly, no.” This was a conversation among friends, not an official interview, mind you. No 5D black ops chess here — they were no doubt telling the sad truth. Pro-Russian Ukrainians had very good reason to feel completely and totally abandoned by Russia for many years.

    And even now, the Kremlin and its loathsome PR spokespeople claim that they are only in Ukraine temporarily, to conduct a de-nazification campaign. Not only is this claim bizarre, but what’s worse, people think they might actually mean it. So, after smashing the Ukrainian army and the volunteer battalions, they intend to do what — pull out?

    Why then should anyone in Ukraine support the Russian army? So that they can receive a bullet to the head for being collaborators once they’re gone? No wonder Ukrainians are hunkering down and keeping quiet. Why support a military that won’t be there to protect you once they’ve won? After all, genius strategic feint or not, Kiev and the environs around it were abandoned. What will happen to the people there who came out waving Russian flags? A war is a great time for neighbors who envied (and stole) the roses from your garden to accuse you of being a collaborator. Don’t think that people aren’t reporting on each other right now — that’s what neighbors are best at the world over. Look at your own neighbors — can you honestly say that you can trust the Joneses to not rat you out if the secret police come knocking at some point in the near future? Were you paying attention during COVID and the hunt for the Trump Insurrectionists?

    In point of fact, some Kiev regime appointed officials have spoken out about taking fatal action against the folks described. The Kiev regime itself clearly delineates what aren’t acceptable views. In CGTN discussions, it’s commonplace for Kiev regime parliamentarians, approved media people and some others to insultingly disparage the likes of Aaron Mate, Marcus Papadopoulos, Vladimir Golstein and Mark Sleboda.

    The point I’m driving at here is rather simple: Russia needs a new strategy and new people handling her interests in Ukraine and the near abroad. No more lazy half-measures, but smart, comprehensive propaganda and political efforts. Funding and support and protection for actual, genuine pro-Russians — it’s not hard to figure out. Most importantly, there needs to be a consistent and simple message presented to the Ukrainians. Putin himself said it well on several occasions: “we are brotherly peoples with a shared past and future.” I would add, “We will not abandon you,” for good measure.

    Why Putin’s own government struggles to follow his lead is, frankly, infuriating to say the least.

    The above view underscores that the simplistic Western establishment desire to remove Putin from office will not likely lead to a Russian leader who is more agreeable to neocon-neolib leaning folks.

    • Thanks: nokangaroos
  137. antibeast says:
    @haha

    But the whole painful truth may be “Putin is the wrong man ruling a wrong country”.

    Methinks it’s more like “Putin is the right man ruling the wrong country.”

    Russia seems never to have fully recovered from the collapse of the Soviet Union. China successfully transitioned from a closed communist system to a much more open post-communist system with its state, institutions, economy, civilization, and pride in national identity getting stronger and stronger. Russia has still not transitioned successfully. In some ways it remains a post-communist disaster state and country, with its civilization and national pride deeply wounded.

    Putin inherited Yeltsin’s Russia that was suffering from decades of post-Soviet malaise. But Russia’s problems stem much deeper than the collapse of the Soviet Union. Russia suffers from its schizophrenic history of being caught in between geopolitical events in Europe and Asia, alternately ruled by European feudalists and Asiatic despots. That’s still true today as the power struggle between the Atlanticists and the Eurasianists play out in Putin’s Russia. The violent tribulations following those sudden and abrupt transitions necessitated ‘strong-man’ autocratic rule which resulted in despotic regimes incapable of establishing political institutions of lasting permanence.

    According to Alexander Dugin, the Russian State became identified with the Eurasianist ‘Civilization of the Land’ or tellurocracy after the Mongol invasions destroyed Kievan Rus and absorbed the Eastern Slavs as part of the Mongol Empire and later Golden Horde. After the Fall of the Golden Horde, its successor State of the Muscovite Tsardom eventually expanded to Siberia, Central Asia, the Caucasus and parts of Eastern Europe to encompass the Heartland of Eurasia. From this Heartland emerged the Tsarist Empire which was replaced by the Soviet Union.

    After the Fall of the USSR, the Russian Federation today is still in the process of defining its national identity and geopolitical ideology which Dugin claims to be a tellurocracy or ‘Civilization of the Land’ based on its Eurasian Heartland. Dugin views Russia and its Eurasianist ‘Civilization of the Land’ or tellurocracy as being in a geopolitical contest with the US-led West and its Atlanticist ‘Civilization of the Sea’ or thalossocracy.

    • Thanks: dogbumbreath
    • Replies: @haha
    , @GMC
  138. GMC says:
    @antibeast

    Agree, except for one piece of the puzzle that we mostly overlook. Senator Obama’s visit to Donetsk in 2005 was in order to give the Eastern Ukrainian army 30 to 40 million dollars , in order to de-arm themselves. Notice he DiDn’t go to the Western Nazi s and de-arm them. His flight plan also brought him into Russia, where he was detained for many hours. I suspect that the Russians had a little problem with his PassPort and they wanted to give him the hint that they knew every little lying thing about his past and probable Western Intel connections.

    The other abnormalities is when the CCCP dissolved , some politicians in the Kremlin did raise an alert/issue on the necessity of Ukrainian borders and how they needed to be re-drawn. Yeltsin, at the time, was a CIA/Clinton puppet then, and for some “odd reason” – he never would address this most critical issue. Obviously, this would be a CIA dream come true.

    Personally, this shows that the MaiDan was planned for a very long time before and remember – NeoCons/Zionists plan things well in advance and have decades of patience if not centuries of experience.

    • Agree: annamaria
  139. @peterAUS

    The article misses the point …
    the same Jews did the exact same thing in Warszaw 1944 and
    the Krajina 1945. These chaps are intended to die – lest they cause problems
    in the future.
    Anti-Empire ain´t what it used to be.

    • Agree: Drapetomaniac
  140. @dimples

    Zilinsky was trying to calm people or maybe he wanted lots of civilians to use as human shields instead of bailing. Whatever, his preparations were quite different. All the command and control moved west prior to war. The deep state files from like SBU and such moved west where they couldn’t be seized. Not to mention the Ukrainian Army dug in like Alabama ticks.

    It’s also too bad. that Putin sells energy to the enemy flooding weapons to Ukraine instead of causing riots on Western Capital Streets when they have no gas or food. Putin also doesn’t hit power plants in West Ukraine giving comfort and convenience to enemy and not forcing a larger refugee crisis for the EU to deal with. Putin fights war without enough troops to stalled for most part, feeding enemy propaganda. Putin is his own worst enemy. Maybe a great KGB man – definite a great bureaucrat – but terrible at war and or delegation.

    Roosevelt and Churchill didnt run WW2 almost all decisions were made by the Generals – economic to call ups- to targeting. And Churchill was a hell of a lot more capable than Putin. I don’t see this characteristic here from control freak Putin.

  141. JR Foley says:
    @meamjojo

    Nancy Pelosi soon to arrive in Kiev and talk turkey with Zelenskyy. Nancy is now a star in Kiev as she was in Hong Kong –outstanding !! Zenlenskyy will divert some incoming funds ( he now has a stash of 850 million ?) and cut in Pelosi–. When a comedian meets a witch —the poroshenko is bubbling and it will be chocolates for everyone —in Tel Aviv !!!!

  142. JR Foley says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    Canada has many of these Bandera Jackboot types marching around Ontario and Chrystia Freeland’s paternal grandfather Chomiak was the newspaper guru who supported supporting the Einsatzgruppen B wipe out Jews Gypsies and Poles. Now consider Zylenskyy—his parents are Orthodox Jews and upset their son is chasing the dollar and playing the world stage —- true to form young Zylenskyy the comedian is playing for Tel Aviv but later will pop up in Ottawa —and partner in the leader’s circle !!
    How Zylenskyy’ s parents were overlooked is a miracle but when there is a dollar involved —the golden calf replaces the commandments —

  143. Druid says:
    @Chris Moore

    Hope your last line comes true!

  144. @haha

    “You are probably right. But the whole painful truth may be “Putin is the wrong man ruling a wrong country”.

    Russia seems never to have fully recovered from the collapse of the Soviet Union. China successfully transitioned from a closed communist system to a much more open post-communist system with its state, institutions, economy, civilization, and pride in national identity getting stronger and stronger. Russia has still not transitioned successfully. In some ways it remains a post-communist disaster state and country, with its civilization and national pride deeply wounded. ”

    Well, it’s hard to get rid of oligarchs anywhere…Oligarchs who were given Russia by the West/Yeltin. Putin weaseled into power best he could without ticking too many off (that’s what I meant about being a great bureaucrat) but ultimately either succumbed to their way of thinking or couldn’t really do anything about it and little investment was made into Russians. They let him have his little weapons projects and Putin left them alone for the most part while Russia stalled economically and remained over reliant on natural resources market fluctuations.

  145. @Peter Akuleyev

    That’s a good point. Why did Russia go from shitty communism to the shittiest form of crony capitalism that enriches a handful of oligarchs and Kremlin insiders while leaving everyone else in the lurch? Wasn’t Putin’s original claim to fame that he reversed some of Yeltsin’s worst corrupt policies? Why did he stop and lock Russia into a system where life for ordinary Russians is always bordering on misery instead of working to make life better for his people?

    But instead of improving employment prospects and living conditions Putin rambles on about regaining the Russian empire and blaming the west for all of Russia’s woes, which is cold comfort to Russians struggling to make ends meet in the vast post-industrial wasteland that is Russia east of Moscow. Prosperity makes all the difference and everything else is secondary. You can’t eat or cash in patriotic sentiments and yearning for a lost empire (under a feudal Czarist monarchy no less that practically kept people enslaved).

    While in the last 30 years people in China and even in parts of EU controlled eastern Europe experienced tangible standard of living increases and increased prosperity Russians got war and patriotic drivel. I am not opposed to patriotism but when it’s used as a substitute for a stable and functional nation it’s just cynical words and can’t be taken seriously. Why did genius Putin not learn from China what needs to be done?

    And now 5D chess master and strategic genius VV Putin has got Russia embroiled in an escalating war that will only bring more misery to Russia and its people.

    Lots of hopium and copium in these threads from elderly keyboard warriors who are emotionally invested in Russia winning and “overthrowing” the west. Not going to happen. If Putin is smart he will find a way to cut Russia’s losses and end this war as quickly as possible before momentum really shifts to Ukraine/NATO. That’s not going to happen either. Russia is going to take one hell of a beating and Ukraine will be destroyed. And for what? The ghouls in Washington and Brussels might be happy about it but Russians and Ukrainians will both lose big time.

    • Agree: allgoodnamestaken
    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @Chris Moore
  146. @haha

    He’s even incompetent in his forte, intelligence. He thought Ukrainians would roll over for him ala Crimea ez work and ended up imprisoning a bunch of intelligence officers after that failed him. Apparently they were just pocketing the money for the pro Russian Ukraian partisan operation they were tasked with and told Putin things were going swimmingly. This was the cataclysmic event so far in this war for Russia and it was done by the very force Putin created under Yeltin and managed. Or mismanaged.

    Ever since those opening days and that massive intelligence failure he’s trapped. Can’t mobilize the numbers needed as kids will be like screw that for the most part. Putin didn’t even ask them or the nation if they wanted war but now they have to cover his ass? Not going to happen.

  147. Levtraro says:
    @Anonymous

    Thanks for confirming and expanding upon my point with technical info.

    Regarding Note [3] note that even if the theory (functional knowledge of DNA) and technology to build a mammoth from frozen DNA were available at some future time, it would be impossible to re-create its gut microbiota, which current biology tells me is equivalent to a vital organ and therefore instrumental to having the original animal re-created.

  148. @mulga mumblebrain

    I would not quite go back to the Proterozoic 😛

    The Romans were the first (that we know of) to discuss what we would call
    “mission creep”, and Napoleon systematized it: By nature the periphery of the
    Empire is weak, and there is always something just outside causing trouble –
    IOW there can be no “natural” stop to expansion.
    – China has seen more than its share of bloody wars but is blessed with
    massive natural borders (they do not call themselves the
    “Empire under Heaven” for nothing), and it shows.
    – The Steppe by contrast has been a highway for 5000 years (most à propos usually
    populated by highwaypersons) – it (cernosem = “black earth”) extends to
    100km west of Vienna (the natural stopgap, already fortified by the Romans).
    – We have seen massive natural borders did not keep the Usual Suspects from
    going unnatural; my theory is the several generations of “frontier” fixated the
    Acquisitive Spirit ™ (“robber barons”) in the American DNA.

    Bref: We are fucked.

    • Thanks: mulga mumblebrain
  149. Levtraro says:
    @RIchebourg

    Despite the facts that you mention I think my point was still accurate: it is not possible to design a bioweapon to target specific ethnicities on account of their differential genetic constitution.

    The facts you mention are about evolutionary processes happening by population dynamics, ecosystem processes and genetic evolution over hundreds of thousand years. Not relevant to the issue of developing a bioweapon by technological processes in a laboratory.

    I also disagree with you about current rates of divergence being significantly affected by travel and mixing. Human reproduction worldwide currently is ovewhelmingly within races. Inter-racial mixing is extremely rare. Even in the USA (despite current fads in ads) inter-racial mixing is very uncommon and not widely spread geographically.

  150. Anonymous[249] • Disclaimer says:
    @allgoodnamestaken

    It’s also too bad. that Putin sells energy to the enemy flooding weapons to Ukraine instead of causing riots on Western Capital Streets when they have no gas or food.

    Deliberate or not, the practice makes the United States (US), rather than the Russian Federation (RF), responsible for freezing the Germans in the dark while destroying their income. That, and similar undesirable consequences, will be key in European rejection of US leadership.
    European rejection of US leadership will be essential for the eventual coalescence of Western Europe and the RF. This coalescence is essential for the survival of both. Remember, the present system in both RF and European Union (EU) is driving indigenous population groups to extinction. Post-WW II hasn’t worked out well for the populations of major industrial powers or for the RF, and they are all facing halving or more over the next two decades or so.

    For surprisingly large world wide effect of depopulation, see video in comment: https://www.unz.com/article/the-ukraine-debacle/#comment-5318276

    • Replies: @allgoodnamestaken
  151. @meamjojo

    “Under-edjuumackated”: Quelle Amusement, n’ cest pas? Is Meanie Stoltissimus Rex? Vielleicht Er ist ein grossischer Dumkopf. Kansje han var en Sorte störte gris.

  152. @haha

    Hardy, har, har, har haha.

  153. @allgoodnamestaken

    Churchill selected his generals, like “Bomber” Harris specifically for their ruthlessness and probable psychopathic sociopathy. The hammering of Hamburg’s labor force civilians and the devastation of Dresden, with no military presence and loaded with refugees from the east and just happening to be the treasure city of German art and architecture were products of “Sir” Winston’s psychopathic hatred of Germany (his mother was “Chosen”, by the way, so by Rabbinical “Law”, Winnie was also). One must also consider his ear-whisperer, Herr Lindemann, another “Chosen” and equipped with a Germanic sounding surname.

    In the U\$\$A, Roosevelt (Chosen on his DeLano side) was in many respects the creature of Bernard Baruch, who also managed through his distant kinsman, Edward Mandel, who “managed” the blackmailed Thomas Woodrow Wilson into creating a state-terror regime during WWI and totally betrayed his own 1916 campaign slogan “He Kept Us Out of the War” by addressing a joint assembly of both the House and Senate, just a couple weeks after his second Inaugural where he called for a Declaration of War against Germany.

    Baruch also, according to some of my research, also picked Dwight David Eisenhower, who was a mere Lieutenant Colonel and a staffer for MacArthur, to be the political general wearing four stars. Why? Because “Ike” was willing to follow orders from “above” and proved it when he ordered that the German troops rounded up in the Ruhr Pocket, be no longer considered as combatants and that they would be obliged to live out in the open without so much as tents and blankets. He also ordered that they not be fed or given water. Hundreds of thousands died because Eisenhower loyally followed the orders of the man who “made” him.

    So your bloody “heroes” were bloodthirsty bass-turds. Want more? There’s plenty more heavy artillery rounds stored in my memory glands. I happen to be a truth seeker, while you are obviously a prevaricator.

    • Agree: Chris Moore
    • Thanks: annamaria
  154. antibeast says:
    @Been_there_done_that

    Aside from all that, in your response you have engaged in at least two logical fallacies:
    Post hoc ergo propter hoc
    Argumentum ad verecundiam

    Yours fall into two logical fallacies as well:
    Reductio Ad Absurdum
    Reductio Ad Infinitum

    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
  155. Maybe the whole point of this exercise in the Ukraine, the real aim and goal of Russia, is to create a complete break with the West, a new Iron Curtain, a new Cold War, and a pivot to Asia, and a restructuring of the economy and society, something like a Russian version of what China has done. So winning or losing in the Ukraine is not that important, although winning is of course much better, and I suppose they will at least get the LDNRs out of this, if not more. So it doesn’t really matter how fast or slow the military operation goes, if the West becomes even more Russophobic and Nazified, if even more sanctions are introduced, as it all works towards the goals of what Russia really wants to achieve. The West also may not collapse although life will get more difficult, expensive, and totalitarian while beneficiaries could be countries in Asia that Russia will shift its trade to.

  156. @showmethereal

    Yes, I heard that too. Sadly, I don’t have any info to answer your question, but then, stifling of speech that refutes the MSM/PTB narrative is everywhere in the West, and it is only going to get worse, I’m afraid…..

  157. gT says:
    @G J T

    Yawn, bitch and whine all you want, Russia is still going to win in Ukraine. Then in …., then in …., then in …., etc, etc, etc.

  158. MotGOD says:
    @Anon

    Blind ignorance and irrational hate from false grievance
    on imaginary virtue.

    (“Ebil Not-Sees!”, Holy-Hoax!, Raping Russia was the good guys!)

    Fantasy of murdering the world and your precious Russians too.
    To die for your lies and make the world die too!

    Is this how the cancer on creation kills a world —
    Not by the hand of the Jew but the minds of abused goyim?

    Sad history of Russia indeed!

    • Replies: @emerging majority
  159. haha says:
    @antibeast

    Agree with a lot of the historical details posted by you, some of which I was aware of. Yes, Russia will truly need a civilizational awakening and, until then, Putin could be the right man for the wrong country. Despite wishing Russia well and despite having noted Putin’s brilliance, I still feel that he lacks some core competencies that are desperately needed by Russia.

    • Replies: @antibeast
  160. haha says:
    @Ghali

    Equally unbelievable is the Russian Government’s habit of referring to US/UK/NATO as “Our Western Partners”. Partners in what? Partners in confiscating Russian assets and national reserves? Partners in “Reconstituting Russia”? Perhaps Mr. Lavrov would welcome NATO troops as “our brave NATO partners” when they enter Moscow?

  161. antibeast says:
    @haha

    Despite wishing Russia well and despite having noted Putin’s brilliance, I still feel that he lacks some core competencies that are desperately needed by Russia.

    Putin knows the limits of his power given the dire conditions of Yeltsin’s Russia which he inherited in 2000. Faced with an aggressive American Empire expanding its military footprint worldwide, Putin had no choice but to stay on the sidelines while rebuilding an impoverished post-Soviet Russia which almost became a failed State like Ukraine is today. Russia still suffers from structural problems with its society, economy and politics which would take time for Putin to address, the most pressing of which is the wealth, power and influence of Russia’s Oligarchs who tend to favor the West over Russia. After regaining its military power while maintaining its political stability, Putin’s Russia is now able to protect its strategic interests worldwide, confronting the global hegemon in the Middle East, North Africa, Latin America, Central Asia and Eastern Europe. That is a big change from being the sick man of Europe back in 2000!

    That’s why I believe Putin is the right man for the wrong country because anybody else would have failed in running such a vast Country and complex Civilization as Russia!

  162. @MotGOD

    So you’re still raping Russia, I see. Isn’t that a herculean task? Russia is a mighty big place.

  163. GMC says:
    @antibeast

    The Russians know exactly who they are – its Europe and the USA that has No F…n Idea who they are – anymore. That is what confuses the Russian Federation and the many of their different societies. Even President Putin is confused when he tries to speak logic to the ” Leaders” from the West. Period.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  164. @G J T

    “my worldview and allegiances (which are to my race, nation and (true) brothers in Christ.”

    Which implies ingroup-outgroup moral behaviors. Ingroup meaning protected and outgroup meaning open to being abused.

    That sums up the present state of mankind – from which he will never escape.

  165. @Anonymous

    There is a lot of causes for depopulation in the West as well as in some Asian countries such as Japan and now China. Womens lib, Birth control, Statism whereby you don’t need social capital (kids) to take care of you in old age – social security/pension and Jaunita from Mexico will, erosion of religion and other social constructs which encourage family – It’s no accident only areas growing in Russia is the Islamic Regions where traditional roles are maintained. So I’m not sure what some alliance between EU and Russia would do to improve the demographic collapse. May even get worse as they get richer without US meddling and greater cooperation.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  166. @antibeast

    Putin’s continued failure to read the US even after the examples of some 70 coups and nation wiping USA have done since WW2 is another huge mistake. At the time, after the 2014 US coup in Ukraine I was thinking Putin would go all the way to Kiev and restore order. But no sat on his hands pleding with his Western “partners” like some child begging for candy from a very mean older step brother. If he did this SMO in 2014 when Ukraine was a cream puff it would have been a) easy and b) stopped NATO in it’s tracks. Instead he comes 8 years late after coup forgotten about and Ukraine was armed to the teeth and totally indoctrinated by US Psyops to hate Russia. His instincts, strategy and tactics suck – he’s a great bureaucrat, holding together Russia and rising through Russia’s complex ranks as a nobody, that is all.

    Who knows maybe Putin is in league with the whole depopulation agenda and just playing “the bad cop” on world stage in this drama. No one can be as dumb as so many blunders in this thread highlight.

    • Replies: @antibeast
  167. @antibeast


    …two logical fallacies…
    — Reductio Ad Absurdum
    — Reductio Ad Infinitum

    Very funny because neither of these two terms actually refer to logical fallacies. Even if they did, you would have been obliged to point them out.

    The first term generally refers to an argumentative method of assuming a false proposition to be true and then showing that its logical consequence leads to a contradiction, thus proving its impossibility.

    The second term makes no sense, so you probably meant reductio ad nauseam, which merely refers to a discussion that goes on forever, to the point of nausea, presumably due to repetitiveness.

    • Replies: @DevilAdvocate
  168. annamaria says:
    @meamjojo

    Ms. “meamjojo,” your Jewish mom did not teach you to behave politely in a decent company. The Unz Review is obviously above your grade.

  169. annamaria says:
    @peterAUS

    “They’ll, both, have a fiery stalemate. For now.”
    — Do you have a shred of honesty to clarify that Russia is fighting the Zionized US/NATO and not Ukrainians?

    “Israel lobby group ADL rehabilitates Hitler’s accomplices [past and peresent] in Ukraine”
    https://electronicintifada.net/content/israel-lobby-group-adl-rehabilitates-hitlers-accomplices-ukraine/35021

    “There are neo-Nazis in Ukraine…” Fishman asserts. “But they are a very marginal group … who don’t attack Jews or Jewish institutions in Ukraine.”

    David Fishman is a professor of Jewish History at the Jewish Theological Seminary. Fishman is also a member of the academic committee of the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum. https://www.jtsa.edu/team/david-fishman/
    It is obvious that members of his family never knew a sense of decency.

    And do you know, why Ukrainian Nazis “don’t attack Jews or Jewish institutions in Ukraine?” Because the Banderites make their living by being servile to their Zionist masters. Exactly as Andriy Biletsky articulated, the “Semite-led Untermenschen.”

  170. antibeast says:
    @allgoodnamestaken

    My reading of Putin’s inexplicable moves is based on the classic Sun Tzu dictum ‘appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.’ That’s why Putin chose to intervene militarily in Syria back in 2015 while continuing to negotiate with Kiev over the Minsk Accords. Acting prematurely against Kiev is foolhardy as Russia was not ready to confront the global hegemon head-on back then in 2014. So Syria offered Putin a way to ‘appear strong when you are weak’ by bombing the ISIS terrorists to oblivion. With Syria out of the way and the US-NATO military out of Afghanistan, Putin now had the opportunity to act against Kiev in 2022. After eight years of preparing for the potential blowback from the US-led West, including more sanctions against Russia, Putin was now ready to ‘appear weak when you are strong’ by launching his SMO against Kiev. That would explain the light-handed tactics with which the Russian military had carried out its SMO in Ukraine, sacrificing thousands of Russian lives in the process of avoiding Ukrainian civilian deaths as much as possible.

    Everything makes sense now as the Russian military makes mincemeat out of the Ukrainian Armed Forces — slowly but surely — with as little civilian deaths as possible while the US-led West sit and watch the spectacle of a Russian military victory in the country formerly known as Ukraine.

    • Agree: dogbumbreath
    • Thanks: emerging majority
  171. IreneAthena says: • Website

    Being deeply invested in one side or the other winning this latest war in Ukraine is like sitting in the rain at an athletic event that has gone into overtime, and the concession stands are running out of food, and all the exits have been blocked. It ain’t over til the Fat Lady sings, and the Fat Lady won’t be singing until Raytheon, Lockheed Martin and the elected officials inhabiting their pockets find another couple of teams whose members they can exploit and exhaust.

    Their CIA talent scouts had been sniffing around the scene of a recent suicide bombing that killed Chinese and Pakistani students.

    • Agree: peterAUS
  172. peterAUS says:
    @Squarebeard

    Why did Russia go from shitty communism to the shittiest form of crony capitalism that enriches a handful of oligarchs and Kremlin insiders while leaving everyone else in the lurch? Wasn’t Putin’s original claim to fame that he reversed some of Yeltsin’s worst corrupt policies? Why did he stop and lock Russia into a system where life for ordinary Russians is always bordering on misery instead of working to make life better for his people?

    There are some FUNDAMENTALS at work here.

    http://www.carrollquigley.net/pdf/Tragedy_and_Hope.pdf
    Pages 79-107 , and taking a look at the failure of Stolipin’s reforms could help.

    Good luck.

    • Thanks: IreneAthena
  173. haha says:
    @antibeast

    Good of you to remind us of some facts about Russia before we hasten to criticize or condemn Putin. There is a lot of validity to what you say. However, what was the need for Russia to recognize and legitimize the Ukrainian regime post the coup of 2014? And what prevents Russia from switching off gas to countries that are abetting the war by supplying arms to Ukraine? A lot of EU blabbering and mischief could easily have been nipped in the bud by simply turning down the gas flow and threatening to switch off completely if they became active participants. Putin does seem to have some sort of fixation about being liked by the West and his commitment to commercial contracts in a time of war is beyond silly.

    • Replies: @antibeast
  174. peterAUS says:

    Oh, BTW:
    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-61275576
    It’s actually sort of sad to watch those from

    ….Lots of hopium and copium in these threads from elderly keyboard warriors who are emotionally invested in Russia winning and “overthrowing” the west….

    here. True believers, that is. Amusing too.
    Anyway, a good study of human nature. Has a certain practical value for daily life. Saves time.

    • Replies: @IreneAthena
  175. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @Squarebeard

    You just recited every ((Bolshevik)) talking point. How backward you must be.

    You must be a decrepit old Zoglodyte from the BC era, trying to relive the glory days of Zion.

    Past time to head into history, old timer.

    The ghouls in Washington and Brussels…

    The ghouls like you?

  176. annamaria says:

    Stealing has become an American trademark: Bankers and the MIC are on the offensive: https://consortiumnews.com/2022/05/01/paypal-cancels-cn-account-may-seize-balance/

    The online payment system gave no warning or reason why Consortium News‘ account has been “permanently limited.” PayPal indicated that only if “applicable” will the balance be returned…

    There was no prior notice sent nor was Consortium News afforded any due process. A PayPal customer service agent confirmed in a telephone call on Sunday that the “back office” gave no specific reason for “permanently limiting” CN‘s account other than that an “investigation and review” of CN‘s “history found some potential risk associated with this account.” … The agent could not explain why Consortium News was given no notice or any due process, but promised to ask the “back office” to contact CN to explain.

    Regarding the \$9,348.14 balance in CN‘s PayPal account, the agent said that after a 180-day review PayPal would decide whether to return it. “If there was a violation,” she said “it is possible” the money could be kept as “damages” to PayPal. Violations under the Restricted Activities of the User Agreement include providing “false, inaccurate or misleading information” to PayPal, other PayPal customers “or third parties.”

    Given the current political climate, it is more than conceivable that PayPal is reacting to Consortium News’ coverage of the war in Ukraine, which is not in line with the dominant narrative that is being increasingly enforced. Last week PayPal also froze the account of the alternative news site MintPressNews.

    https://fourweekmba.com/who-owns-paypal/

    In 2002, PayPal was bought by eBay… Today PayPal owns brands like Braintree, Venmo, Xoom, and iZettle.

    The eBay’s top shareholders (2019):

    Pierre Omidyar
    John Donahoe
    Devin Wenig
    Michael Jacobson

    Benchmark Capital Management Co. LLC
    The Vanguard Group, Inc.
    Icahn Associates Holding LLC
    SSgA Funds Management, Inc.
    The Baupost Group LLC

    Jamie Iannone has been the president and chief executive officer of eBay, since April 27, 2020. Wikipedia

    The CEO of PayPal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Schulman

    Dan Schulman is the CEO of PayPal … Schulman prohibited hate groups from using PayPal’s platform from accepting payments or donations for activities that promote “hate, violence or racial intolerance.”

    Is Mr. Schulman aware that the US government has trained and weaponized the self-proclaimed Nazis in Ukraine? The Ukrainian Nazis (Banderites) have been known for practicing hate, violence, and racial intolerance.

  177. antibeast says:
    @haha

    However, what was the need for Russia to recognize and legitimize the Ukrainian regime post the coup of 2014?

    See my post #173. Russia was not ready to confront the global hegemon head-on as Putin needed time to prepare Russia for the inevitable sanctions from the USA. Putin had to ‘appear strong while weak’ by sending the Russian Air Force to bomb ISIS to oblivion in Syria in 2015 while continuing to negotiate with Kiev over the Minsk Accords. He was also counting on finishing the NS2 pipeline to Germany as a way of cementing Russia’s economic ties to Europe. There was no need to antagonize the EU while Russia was busy rebuilding its military, including deploying hypersonic missiles such as the Kinzhal.

    And what prevents Russia from switching off gas to countries that are abetting the war by supplying arms to Ukraine? A lot of EU blabbering and mischief could easily have been nipped in the bud by simply turning down the gas flow and threatening to switch off completely if they became active participants. Putin does seem to have some sort of fixation about being liked by the West and his commitment to commercial contracts in a time of war is beyond silly.

    Because Putin knows that the existential threat posed to Russia comes from the USA as the global hegemon, not the EU which is Russia’s biggest trading partner. The EU does not have the military means to wage war against Russia which needs more European allies, not more European enemies. Why should Putin treat the EU as Russia’s enemy which is exactly the ‘divide-and-rule’ playbook of the USA? Nothing wrong with Russia acting in good faith in wanting to build a strong and prosperous ‘win-win’ relationship with the EU. If anything, Putin has proven that the USA is a threat to the political stability and economic prosperity of the EU, not Russia. And Putin’s strategy is working as there are European leaders such as Le Pen who wants the EU to accommodate not further antagonize Russia.

    At the end of the day, the USA wants to keep the EU down, Russia out and NATO in as a way to dominate Europe. That’s the motive of the USA which is behind the Ukraine Crisis today. In the words of Victoria Nuland, the USA wants to ‘F-CK the EU’ by pitting Ukraine against Russia.

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  178. @annamaria

    ‘Yankee’ was derived from a Dutch term for thief’.

    • Replies: @emerging majority
  179. Anonymous[530] • Disclaimer says:
    @allgoodnamestaken

    So I’m not sure what some alliance between EU and Russia would do to improve the demographic collapse. May even get worse as they get richer without US meddling and greater cooperation.

    That is an excellent point, and it worries me also. Industrial society did not collapse birth rates to below replacement prior to WW II, and we don’t really know (as you point out) even now.

    We do know that the conditions in Russia after 1990 did was associated with demographic collapse so severe that until a few years ago it was thought that Russia might be mathematically unable to stop its population decline. An agreement with industrial Western Europe (esp. Germany) for Germany to buy Russian resources and perhaps try to industrialize some part of Russia might avoid conditions similar to those in Russia after 1990.

    However— they might not, also.

    Story: Once upon a time, there was a science fiction author called Cordwainer Smith, a professional name, who was in his day job an official in the US State Department. He had quite an imagination, and tried writing sociological science fiction.

    [MORE]

    One of his literary devices concerned the same problem we’re seeing today.

    Life had been arbitrarily set at 400 years, give or take about 1 minute; otherwise ageless people were simply killed at 400 years lifespan. The Instrumentality (Federal Government?) protected people from all harm during the 400 years, and in fact made all important decisions.

    In one story, Smith wrote some doggerel about that,

    “You should ask me.
    Me, me, me!
    Because I know.
    I used to live on the Western shore,
    and men aren’t men,
    and women aren’t women,
    and people aren’t people anymore!

    Smith wrote a story about a human trying to find his humanity by living in an abandoned structure and using “congohelium”, a device built of helium and anti-helium, as a bongo drum. The device had originally been used to defuse novas, and would have taken out a section of the Earth about the size of North America if it had malfunctioned under the musician’s playing. The device did have a nice tone to it, though.

    The analogy of C. Smith’s work to the West’s ideals back in the 1950s is fairly obvious here. Restricting human life to a simple logical structure can kill.

    C. Smith’s literary solution was the “Rediscovery of Man”. The Instrumentality re-introduced hazards to life and limb. “There was dancing in the street when typhus and smallpox were released” captures the nature of the introduction. Death rates were adjusted in bulk so that the average lifespan came out to 400 years, and presumably there was some treatment for crippling injuries.

    The Rediscovery of Man methodology seems a bit extreme, but think about it. Caged wild animals usually don’t breed, no matter how well treated. Humans who can’t make any decision more serious than which item on the menu to have for breakfast without it being reviewed by the Anonymous Authority, who control nothing, and whose every plan can be countermanded without warning — what reason do they have to live? Are they living? Kirby (comic book artist) called that level of control “the anti-life equation”, which is comic-bookish but gets the idea across.

    More to the point, I once had a co-worker, Cuban guy, who had worked for IBM. He worked very hard, and got a heart attack. A company rep came to his hospital room and said “Don’t worry. IBM is your family, your mother and father, and it will take care of you”. The Cuban’s response was “I quit. I resign from IBM. Get out of this room.” And he proceeded to get a job elsewhere, where he could live like a human being.

    Contemporary humans in the US, who “used to live on the Western shore”, that is, in Western civilization, can’t keep public schools from castrating their kids, and can’t think without possibly being punished for “thought crime”, and are under surveillance at their job. Same with Europeans and, from what I’ve heard, Russian citizens. Nor can they choose to marry to form a nuclear family, or do pretty much anything else that formed healthy people in healthy families.

    Maybe letting humans have a bit more freedom would help.

    • Agree: allgoodnamestaken
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  180. @annamaria

    Schulman’s ancestors spoke Yiddish. Explanation enough.

  181. @mulga mumblebrain

    Perhaps the ultimate Yankees were those from Connecticut, as per “A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court”. The state motto of that place is “The Nutmeg State”. Now nutmeg trees do not grow there, so why the appellation?

    It all goes back to the days of the Yankee trader, who scoured the far-frontier, which in that day and age was western Pennsylvania and trickling into eastern Ohio, Kentucky and Tennessee. The most advanced pioneering settlers lived far away from “civilization”. They mostly took care of their own needs from the land and the forests, lakes and rivers. However, there were commodities like coffee, tea, window-glass, lead, powder, firearms, metal tools and rare items like nutmeg which needed to come from the outside.

    Nutmeg, you say? Frontier housewives liked to provide a bit of zing to their baking, particularly for Holiday occasions. So the Connecticut yankee trader would pull a nutmeg out of one of his packsaddle bags and hand it to the mistress of the household. She’d check it out, sniff it maybe, and then say “I’ll trade for half a dozen of them. Months later, she discovered that except for that single sample all of her precious nutmegs had been carved out of wood by clever Connecticutters in the off-season.

    Thus, “Yankee Trader” became a cuss word on the old frontier. They wee sharp, they were and damned proud of the fact. They ruled the roost in that “profession” until the world’s most clever sharpers started showing up with their carpet-bags and wheedling voices. Two guesses as to the ethnic identity of those who could outsharp the Nutmeg staters. The second guess does not count.

  182. IreneAthena says: • Website
    @peterAUS

    “Saves time.” Indeed, peterAUS. The older I get, the more I understand what might have motivated some philosophers, who understood human nature all too well, to become hermits. Saying, “To hell with y’all,” doesn’t sound very holy, but it might’ve been the essential first step they needed to take, in order to gain the tranquility, and finally, the wisdom, to eventually come down the mountain, and do some good.

    It’s not like I don’t have sympathy for some of my fellow Yanks, who are old enough to have witnessed — many of them up close and personal, on the battlefield— the betrayal of the US State Department starting so many wars it had no intention of winning. The pattern has been and continues to be: instigating and then prolonging conflicts, justifying enormous military budgets, the affected territory is finally deserted, left in shambles, the US vets who haven’t come home in body-bags, come home in disgrace. By then, a new generation of wide-eyed patriots is sent to another territory, told they are going to liberate it and make it “safe for democracy.” Sure, I understand why Yanks who’ve become entirely disillusioned with their government would latch on to an Outsider (Trump) and then, when Trump couldn’t “drain the swamp,” why they would transfer their hopes to a Way-Way-outsider (so they think…) like Putin or Xi. Those whose eyes were already open during the US-led coup in Ukraine are definitely not so stupid as to put their trust in Zelenskyy, but they simply don’t understand yet, or maybe, are not yet able to accept, that no matter WHICH side they cheer on, the conflict in Ukraine is a perpetuation of that same pattern.

    “Whence come-with, whence cometh, whence cometh help?” It might be time for some of us to take an (actual or metaphorical) sojourn up the mountain. Maybe when we come back down, we’ll find ourselves fitting into a plan of action that fits us, that works, that results in good.

  183. @peterAUS

    It’s funny Russians know what’s up even behind their Kremlin propaganda networks better than western pro Russian shills like Scott Ritter who said the blitz to Keiv was a feint lol.

    This comment here I found disturbing. Is Putin really controlled that much by Oligarchs? If so they will never do what’s needed (total war) as Oligarchs rather be with the West anyway who’s neo-liberals will probably bankroll even more exploitation of Russia for them. Putin’s continuing to throw men away. Disgusting.

    There is only one question: how long can we hold out like this? Yes, as much as you like! We have everything, the entire periodic table, forest, water, the desire and ability to fight, even with the devil. But why are we, being in a stalemate, still selling gas, oil, uranium, and other rare earth metals to the US and Europe? Is this just charity? Why do we support countries that dream of our destruction? … Our oligarchs, close to the emperor, cannot be left without income!

    • Replies: @annamaria
  184. @showmethereal

    And if Poland improved so much then why do so many of them still flood the west of Europe?

    These days most educated Poles spend a few years in Western Europe to build their CVs and then come back home to start a business. It is mostly the blue collar types who stay in Sweden or Germany where they can make more welding than in Poland. The freedom Poles have to decide where they want to live and work in the EU is of course another huge advantage the EU offers Ukrainians relative to an economic alliance with Russia.

  185. peterAUS says:
    @IreneAthena

    Maybe when we come back down, we’ll find ourselves fitting into a plan of action that fits us, that works, that results in good.

    Let’s put it this way: nobody I’ve seen in this online pub in all my time here so far can make any difference in the real world.

    As I posted in another thread, Burnham, with his “Machiavellians……” explained that rather well ages ago. Maybe you could take a look.

    Could help with not wasting time and energy on futile, and sometimes dangerous, efforts.

    • Disagree: DevilAdvocate
    • Replies: @IreneAthena
  186. @IreneAthena

    Those whose eyes were already open during the US-led coup in Ukraine…

    Thanks for revealing that your eyes were not open eight years ago, because if they had been then you would not be invoking the inappropriate term “US-led coup” to refer to the change in government back then. I have already explained that this “Maidan revolutiuon” was provoked primarily by popular Ukrainian sentiments against the extreme corruption of the kleptocrat president who wanted to orient the country toward Russian hegemony; secondarily by European diplomatic efforts that culminated in an agreement involving four opposition leaders; thirdly by the choice of the disgraced president to flee the country a few hours later, after his surrender, because he had no political future under the terms of the agreement stipulating early elections; and fourthly by the actions of the parliament, a few hours after that, to formally dismiss the president, who was subsequently charged in his absence for criminal behavior, such as responsibility for murder and looting the country to the tune of roughly \$100 billion.

    It is truly a mystery, in light of the foregoing facts, that anyone with their eyes open now would nonetheless still make the claim that the US led these efforts, without ever explaining how. If the false allegation is derived from the contents of a tapped phone call featuring Victoria Nuland, then this is even more perplexing because it is clear from that conversation that she was merely stating what was already known, regarding “Yats” being the best choice in the future, and trying to get a UN representative involved to mediate or support a resolution to the conflict, which directly contradicts the notion that she was plotting a coup. Also, a year later, at a 2015 public presentation at the University of Chicago, pro-Russian academic John Mearsheimer conspicuously evaded explaining the mechanism, or providing any evidence, for the supposed coup, so one can reasonably conclude that this silly “US-led coup” cliche was later fabricated and spread by Russian propagandists in order to obfuscate the facts and confer blame.

    You and others have been befuddled by false narratives to generate undeserved sympathy for the Russian cause of military aggression. It’s past time for you and others to open your eyes already!

    • Replies: @emerging majority
  187. annamaria says:
    @allgoodnamestaken

    Relax. Hopefully, you are not trying to convince the Unz readers that you are smarter and wiser than the government of the Russian Federation.

    The Empire put forward the Dumbs and Dumbers (Truss, Blinken, Biden, Stoltenberg, Baerbock, Macron…). Whereas the root of the problem is, as always, the Banksters’ depravity: https://thesaker.is/new-pure-bred-schrodinger-seizable-euros/

    Disney and The EU have that in common: they want their sh*t for free without having to pay for it. So they can sell for high prices to their customers. …

    Neoliberal economists and their lawyers have decided,

    1. Contracts must be honored in Euros or Dollars as the contract stipulates.
    2. Those Euros and Dollars will then be canceled, per sanctions.
    3. EU oligarchy get free sh*t to sell to EU customers at very high prices.

    It is the ultimate in wealth production. Pay nothing for something, and sell it at very high prices during a crisis. Western oligarchs becoming history’s greatest State Welfare Queens. Which they already are.

    To get a plump gescheft, the US/UK usurers are always ready to spill other people’s blood by using the ever traitorous MIC stuffed with war profiteers.

    The usurers went so far as to nurture and weaponize self-proclaimed Nazis and then went even further by explaining that the Ukrainian Nazis are good nazis because they don’t touch Jews and Jewish institutions. Sure. – The Banderites do not touch their main benefactors.
    “Israel lobby group ADL rehabilitates Hitler’s accomplices in Ukraine” by this talmudist and ‘scholar’ in holobiz: https://www.jtsa.edu/team/david-fishman

    David Fishman is a professor of Jewish History at the Jewish Theological Seminary. Fishman is also a member of the academic committee of the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum.

    https://electronicintifada.net/content/israel-lobby-group-adl-rehabilitates-hitlers-accomplices-ukraine/35021

  188. Anonymous[263] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Life had been arbitrarily set at 400 years, give or take about 1 minute; otherwise ageless people were simply killed at 400 years lifespan.

    For those who think that no human population would accept being killed by their government because “it’s time, and equity says give the resources to somebody else”, Canada is doing just that, and in a very crude way:

    [MORE]

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-is-canada-euthanising-the-poor-

    Crude:

    A man with a neurodegenerative disease testified to Parliament that nurses and a medical ethicist at a hospital tried to coerce him into killing himself by threatening to bankrupt him with extra costs or by kicking him out of the hospital, and by withholding water from him for 20 days.

    Cheaper:

    . . . A woman in Ontario was forced into euthanasia because her housing benefits did not allow her to get better housing which didn’t aggravate her crippling allergies. . . .

    Even before Bill C-7 entered into force, the country’s Parliamentary Budget Officer published a report about the cost savings it would create: whereas the old MAID regime saved \$86.9 million per year – a ‘net cost reduction’, in the sterile words of the report – Bill C-7 would create additional net savings of \$62 million per year. Healthcare, particular for those suffering from chronic conditions, is expensive; but assisted suicide only costs the taxpayer \$2,327 per ‘case’.

    More to come:

    Next year, the floodgates will open even further when those suffering from mental illness – another disproportionately poor group – become eligible for assisted suicide, although enthusiastic doctors and nurses have already pre-empted the law. There is already talk of allowing ‘mature minors’ access to euthanasia too – just think of the lifetime savings. But remember, slippery slopes are always a fallacy.

    Looks like Cordwainer Smith will have to get credit for futurology as well as myth making. Warning, though: Smith’s writing style was, at the time, widely criticized. Can’t have everything, I guess.

  189. @Drapetomaniac

    Old molecular biologist here. Covid was mostly a psy-op, but there is some seriously bad stuff out there (and one of the purposes of the Covid hoax was probably to cause people to let their mental guard down before the real stuff is released).
    Let’s just say that the crucial thing to get a “weaponisable” high-mortality pathogen is, together with ease of transmission, to maximise the incubation time, or more precisely the time from a patient becoming infectious to the time of the patient’s incapacitation. Works like a charm when you have a non-human intermediate host (cf. the Black Death), though then you are dependent on the presence of the intermediate host, of course. There are plenty of other means feasible though (which I will definitely not discuss here… no need to inspire the bigpela krumboi), and it is even conceivable to create viral strains with planned senescence (and I have a hunch that the latest Ebola outbreak in West Africa tested precisely this)… even the most complex viruses pathogenic to humans are simple in comparison to cellular life.
    As for selectivity, well, immunogenetics is currently under intense research, and it appears that e.g. leprosy vanished from Europa between 1300 and 1600 due to a shift in the prevalent MHC genotype to one that confers resistance. However, (i) mycobacteria are different from “weaponisable” pathogens, (ii) in today’s population MHCs and friends are a complete chaos, and (iii) optimising a virus to become race-selective would probably much more laborious than developing a (real) vaccination against it.
    What I am most afraid of, however, is the possibility that the clique currently ruling the West just does not give a rat’s ass for selectivity but rather opts for the “ten little niggers” approach: Release a pathogen as from Stephen King’s “The Stand”, bide your time in your hermetically sealed shelters, and wait for the world to be repopulated by orcs, which are our overlords’ preferred race anyway.
    Welcome to Planet of the Apes / What Woulda Happened if Frodo Had Failed.

    • Agree: nokangaroos
  190. Anonymous[263] • Disclaimer says:
    @antibeast

    Putin is, of course, neither omnipotent nor omniscient. Nobody is, and depending on one person leadership with an obedient and incurious bureaucracy (“Mindless minions of the Mole Man”, right out of an old Marvel comic) is a weakness of the Russian system. And the present American system, of course, only more so.

    However, it does work sometimes if the strategy is simple and advantageous enough and Russia is lucky.

    Putin appears to be following some such strategy. Europe is sick of US (United States of America) domination, and looking for some way to shed that domination. Putin is setting up the ejection of the US from Europe. He is:
    1) Demonstrating that the US cannot protect either Europe or Ukraine from the Russian Federation (RF).
    2) Demonstrating that he cares about civilian lives by achieving a 1 civilian death for every 7 Russian deaths, vs. the usual 1 civilian death for every 7 Russian deaths in historic and recent US campaigns. The US intention of supporting a guerrilla war in Ukraine that the US probably does not expect Ukraine to win is demonstrating US indifference to civil casualties, as does US insistence that the Federal Republic of Germany (FRG) lose a hefty chunk of its industries by not buying RF natural gas.
    3) Demonstrating that US sanctions are not necessarily effective, and that trading networks can be set up that are independent of the US Dollar.
    4) Demonstrating that the RF can protect its allies, such as the allies in Donbas, from NATO sponsored attacks. Note that the RF’s Putin firmly based his military operation on “responsibility to protect” [1]. In this, Putin is acting like an experienced bureaucrat, and it might serve him well in dealing with the bureaucracies of Europe. The bureaucracies of Europe will recognize a fellow bureaucrat who stays in his own lane (at least on paper), and who can be negotiated with. [2]

    Looked at from that angle, the RF strategy is one of suborning US allies in Europe. Given that the US allies in Europe want to be suborned, the strategy will succeed if the RF can continue fighting long enough.

    —————————————————————————————-
    1] https://www.researchgate.net/publication/303423460_Russia_the_Responsibility_to_Protect_and_Intervention

    2] “Negotiating with the US is like playing chess with a pigeon. The pigeon knocks over all the pieces, craps on the board and then struts around like it won the game.”
    I should add that this has been my experience as well in negotiating with business academic, and governmental entities in the US. Negotiations are never real, they are all raw power plays, even when the entity on the other side of the board will die with0ut honest negotiations and enforceable agreement. They literally don’t understand anything more complex than “I have the gun and you are unarmed”. This makes Putin’s problem more difficult, but he can solve it if he can get the

    European

    countries to eject the US. The US interest in maintaining its suzerainty over Europe has been decreasing sharply since about 2008, the US has AUKUS to fall back on, and the US might just be happy to cut Europe loose. Zeihan is convincing on this matter in his presentation to the US Army Maneuver Center of Excellence: (remove the “-” from “you-tube” to view this presentation ) https://www.you-tube.com/watch?v=UcMQW1unBcs

    • Agree: emerging majority
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @antibeast
  191. Anon[125] • Disclaimer says:
    @Been_there_done_that

    All the Ukrainian leaders have been kleptocrats as you well know – Yanukoyvch is not unusual in that respect. And it is far from clear who was responsible for the deaths in the Maidan, US supported nationalist militias seem to have been responsible for many. It’s something to see you try to bend the NATO-Russia accord to excuse everything that’s happened since while at the same time just waving off a US backed violent coup against an elected leader as just a cool thing everyone is OK with.

    Then we have Ukraine’s refusal to comply with or engage seriously in negotiating/implementing the Minsk accords, also a major contributor to the current mess

    Finally, it’s not just every Russian leader since Gorbachev and distinguished US scholars like Mearsheimer who warned of the folly of NATO expansion, it’s a whole parade of US foreign policy leaders including George Kennan who was the architect of containment. Are you going to lecture us all about how George Kennan was a Putin-loving traitorous fraud now, in accordance with the tone of the rest of your comments?

  192. @Been_there_done_that

    What a crock of unadulterated krappola. Despite all evidence to the contrary, Has-Been keeps banging on the same drum about the Maidan coup. Obvious pilpul by a sayanim or Ha\$barfa troll.

    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
  193. …Yanukoyvch is not unusual…

    I am not aware of another Ukrainian government official with the following attributes:

    • Already spent a few years in jail as a teenager for violent behavior
    • Had his political opponent, who challenged the irregular 2010 election result, jailed
    • Stole roughly \$100 billion from the Ukrainian treasury, according to prosecutors
    • Owned a gaudy villa overlooking a private lake near Kiev
    • Had a 1:1 scale model of a Spanish galleon ship at his premises
    • Maintained a private zoo with over a thousand captive animals
    • Owned a large private collection of antique cars
    • Helped financed the separatist militia in the eastern part of the country

    If you cannot back up your claim that this “is not unusual“, then he was indeed quite unique as a kleptocrat. It is also rather unusual that anybody would even bewail his ultimate surrender and formal removal from power unless they are a worshiper of totalitarianism and violence.

    …who was responsible for the deaths in the Maidan…

    Though he probably didn’t pull the rifle triggers himself or personally engage in the documented torture of some demonstrators by police forces, he still bears responsibility for his bureaucratic responsibility; it was gross criminal negligence at the least.

    …waving off a US backed violent coup…

    You have engaged in circular reasoning by repeating an unproven claim that I have exposed as false. (See message #191 above for my most recent comment.) Your allegation of “waving off” is therefore unjustified.

    …distinguished US scholars like Mearsheimer …

    Instead of addressing the merits of the arguments I provided you simply reverted to a selective appeal to authority. Mearsheimer is not a “distinguished” US scholar but a charlatan, as I explained in message #107 above. He maintained a phony narrative by ignoring crucial context that would have contradicted it. Not only does he propagate the legitimacy of the antiquated “law of the jungle” as normal conduct, he harps on about the Monroe Doctrine from nearly two hundred years ago as a guiding principle or norm, thus tacitly invalidating advances of international diplomacy and law, whenever it is convenient for a leader to do so. In my view he has helped to encourage Putin’s bullying behavior that began last December.

    • Replies: @DevilAdvocate
  194. IreneAthena says: • Website
    @peterAUS

    “…could help with not wasting time and energy on futile, and sometimes dangerous efforts.”
    Without having even read Burnham, that strategy was top of mind when I decided today not to waste on Been_There_Done_That so much as the effort required to press the Disagree button.

    I don’t know how many commenters here are “making a difference in the real world,” but I’d hope it’s more than just a few. “Reading is FUNdamental,” or at least that’s what I heard as a kid from a public service announcement, so linking to important books is not a waste of time. Someone might say to me, “This deeply entrenched and powerful global system of evil isn’t going to get rid of itself, is it.” Once one has crossed the line of merely mentioning its existence, in a surveilled arena like the Internet, one has already stepped into the danger zone. Not that I’m throwing caution to the wind and saying, “in for a penny, in for a pound.” There are productive, non-violent—and yet dangerous—ways to resist. At least that’s the star I’m hitching my wagon to.

    A relatively safe but productive bet might be to follow the leads to real-life alliances through James Corbett’s “Corbett Report Solutions Watch” series.

    • Replies: @IreneAthena
  195. @emerging majority

    …all evidence to the contrary…

    I have yet to see any of this evidence you casually refer to. The phony narrative just gets repeated, over and over, with no supporting facts, and my exposures of the lie elicit no coherent or incisive rebuttals, mainly cheap name-calling, the standard whining behavior when cultists have their fantasy bubble burst.

    • Replies: @emerging majority
  196. IreneAthena says: • Website
    @IreneAthena

    Dear IreneAthena, you have exceeded the recommended maximum cliche count in your comment, but unfortunately your edit deadline has expired. Better luck next time!

  197. Anonymous[263] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Typo correction:

    “Demonstrating that he cares about civilian lives by achieving a 1 civilian death for every 7 Russian deaths, vs. the usual 1 civilian death for every 7 Russian deaths in historic and recent US campaigns. ”
    should be:
    “Demonstrating that he cares about civilian lives by achieving a 1 civilian death for every 7 Russian deaths, vs. the usual 1 civilian death for every 1 civilian deaths in historic and recent US/Western campaigns. ”

    and, of course, the word “European” in the quoted text below should be in italics, and not a quotation.

    “This makes Putin’s problem more difficult, but he can solve it if he can get the European countries to eject the US.

  198. Anon[338] • Disclaimer says:

    Britain says it’s uncovered Russian ‘troll factory’ to influence war in Ukraine
    https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2022/05/02/uncovers-Russian-troll-farm/7711651469976/

  199. @Been_there_done_that

    so you probably meant reductio ad nauseam, which merely refers to a discussion that goes on forever, to the point of nausea, presumably due to repetitiveness.

    Yes, exactly ! That fits wonderfully with your argumentative style (or lack of it…).
    Repeating ad nauseam your half a dozen little points while at same time avoiding carefully to discuss all the other blatant facts which go against you.
    E.g. your 1997 Agreement, which a member recently pointed to its text, and everybody could check it had nothing to do with Nato expansion. Why didn’t you reply ? (how could you ?…)
    It’s always interesting, and very informative, to follow the discussions you engage with (and to which some members still bother to reply to you). When you have a chance to press on your convenient directions, you keep your reductio ad nauseam, but when they touch an issue debasing your arguments, you never return to them.

    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
  200. antibeast says:
    @Anonymous

    The US interest in maintaining its suzerainty over Europe has been decreasing sharply since about 2008, the US has AUKUS to fall back on, and the US might just be happy to cut Europe loose. Zeihan is convincing on this matter in his presentation to the US Army Maneuver Center of Excellence.

    I am not fond of Peter Zeihan’s theory of geopolitics based on environmental determinism because it’s too myopic. Zeihan’s theory fails to explain why a resource-poor island country like Japan could turn into one of the world’s leading industrial powers overnight. I don’t think the US Deep State is interested in seeing US dominance over Europe diminished by Russian aggrandizement.

    Here’s the web link to an interview with the Secretary of the Russian Security Council who advises Putin on national security issues in Russia, excerpts below:

    https://thesaker.is/nikolai-patrushev-secretary-of-the-russian-security-council-in-an-interview-with-rossiyskaya-gazeta/

    Nikolai Patrushev, Secretary of the Russian Security Council, spoke about the tasks of the Russian special operation and the role of the United States in supporting neo-Nazis in an interview with Rossiyskaya Gazeta. And also-about the near future of Europe, the Russian gold and foreign exchange reserves and sanctions, and what changes are waiting for our country in the near future.

    Nikolai Patrushev: The West has created an empire of lies that implies the humiliation and destruction of Russia.

    Nikolai Platonovich, today, perhaps, the term “Cold War II” no longer seems an exaggeration. The Americans do not hesitate to declare that they won the confrontation with the USSR and now they will also win. How do you assess these views?

    Nikolai Patrushev: Washington has been and is causing crises in its quest to consolidate its hegemony, resisting the collapse of the unipolar world. The United States is doing everything to ensure that other centers of the multipolar world do not even dare to raise their heads, and our country not only dared, but publicly declared that it will not play by the imposed rules. They tried to force Russia to give up its sovereignty, identity, culture, and independent foreign and domestic policy. We have no right to agree with this approach.

    In an attempt to suppress Russia, the Americans, using their proteges in Kiev, decided to create an antithesis of our country, cynically choosing Ukraine and trying to divide essentially a single people. Having failed to offer anything positive to Ukraine, even before the 2014 coup d’etat Washington promoted the idea of exclusivity of the Ukrainian nation and hatred of everything Russian. However, history teaches that hatred can never become a reliable factor of national unity. If there is anything that unites the peoples living in Ukraine today, it is only the fear of the atrocities of nationalist battalions. Therefore, the result of the policy of the West and the Kiev regime controlled by it can only be the disintegration of Ukraine into several states.

    Note the first sentence that encapsulates the hidden motive behind the US Deep State’s instigating the Ukraine Crisis: the persistent humiliation and eventual destruction of Russia.

    • Thanks: annamaria
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  201. annamaria says:

    The fantasizing Europe and reality wall: “The EU weighs cap on price paid for Russian oil as way to hit Kremlin revenues” https://www.ft.com/content/23b4e2c2-33a0-480b-9a07-47a4cf434349?mc_cid=0957cb7f5d&mc_eid=27088cb420/

    These idiots need to take a basic course in economics. Oil is a globally traded commodity, so much of Russian oil going to Europe will be rerouted to other parts of the world – i.e. Russia will get paid the global price. It would be in China’s interests, the biggest oil importer, to help Russia out as much as possible here – just as with natural gas where Russian natural gas exports to China jump 60 percent in the first 4 months

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/ukraines-army-is-in-very-bad-state-more-fighting-will-only-destroy-it.html#comments”

    The reality is the West is unable to supply either the quantity or quality of weapons that will make any difference to the outcome of this conflict. The sooner they abandon that wishful thinking the better it will be.
    — Better for whom? Not for the U.S. military-industrial complex, that’s for sure.

    Europe’s economy is on a knife-edge right now. All the pretending and bluster in the world won’t save it.
    — Nobody cares about the European economy, even the Europeans themselves, as is clear from their lack of response to the highest inflation in decades. The last people who cared about the European economy and tried to save it were the Russians—but not anymore.

  202. @Been_there_done_that

    I am not aware of another Ukrainian government official with the following attributes:

    What about your (probably beloved) Zelenski, who:

    – Won the elections with the promise to make peace with the Donbass republics, just to go back and promote instead the continuation of civilian bombing 3 months later.
    – Owns millions (if not billions) in outside bank accounts, and villas in nice spots.
    – Plays the piano with his dick and dances in high heels.
    – Supports the neo-nazis and lets them infiltrate all the government, police and military power positions.
    – Does not allow the military leaders negotiate surrender when their positions become unsustainable, and forces them to become “martyrs”.
    -Forces all males from 18 to 60 to become conscripts in a war that is already lost.
    – Does not allow for civilians to evacuate from sieged positions, and instead sabotages all attempts made by other parties. (it was necessary for the UN secretary-general finally advance with a initiative to evacuate some civilians from the Azovstal plant).
    – Forbids all independent media coverage and instead persecutes everyone who dares to publish a different opinion or non-conform facts (see the example of Gonzalo Lira).
    – Sabotages all negotiations for peace, and kills those who are pro-peace.
    – Before the war, sabotages the Minsk agreements, pushes for trouble with Nato adhesion issue, and threatens to install nukes at Russia’s door.
    -Uses cocaine and other drugs, and is so reckless that let’s that be filmed…

    I would prefer bearing 10 Yanukovychs than just 1 Zelenski !

  203. RobinG says:

    Andrei Martyanov & Gonzalo Lira with Christoforou and Mercouris, today.

    • Replies: @emerging majority
  204. @Been_there_done_that

    Broken record. You spewed the same rhetoric less than a week ago…and then before that again. Obviously, you are not capable of original thought, just putting your personal spin on the script you dutifully follow.

    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
  205. Anon[307] • Disclaimer says:

    Another one of Putin’s useful idiots spouting fascist nonsense.

  206. @DevilAdvocate

    ,,,everybody could check it had nothing to do with Nato expansion. Why didn’t you reply ?

    I did reply (citing the precise terms of the treaty he pretended he couldn’t find) and he never responded since then. The word “expand” appears multiple times. NATO expansion only began two years after that agreement.

    • Replies: @DevilAdvocate
  207. @DevilAdvocate

    What about your (probably beloved) Zelenski…

    I am not fond of him either, and nothing I have written suggests otherwise. On the contrary, I have pointed out that Ukraine had no chance of joining NATO, in part because the country is so corrupt, which of course also reflects upon Zelensky. Much of my criticism here has been focused on exposing blatant lies because many seem to actually believe them. (The big media do not even bother with such deconstructions.) Some who engage in simplistic binary thinking then falsely conclude that this automatically means I must support “the other side”. Why should I spend time trashing Zelensky when so many others on this site due this regularly? Furthermore, many of the points you cited refer to measures taken in a special war-time situation. I only pointed out the serious flaws of Yanukovych, highlighting his unique kleptocracy, because you suggested that such behavior was normal in Ukraine and therefore the public should not have wanted him to step down.

  208. @RobinG

    Thanks Robin. Listened to the whole thing. Excellent panel. Martyanov is becoming a type of rock-star among those who are closely following developments in Eastern Europe.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  209. @emerging majority

    …the same rhetoric less than a week ago…

    The main points may be the same but the formulation is different, often with evidence clarified more concisely. This benefits those people who were reading it for the first time. On the other hand, you are obviously frustrated because you have not been able to contradict the facts and conclusions I have presented and spew the same scripted nonsense a few times a day.

    • Replies: @emerging majority
  210. @Been_there_done_that

    I did reply (citing the precise terms of the treaty he pretended he couldn’t find) and he never responded since then.

    No, you did not. Here is the comment:
    https://www.unz.com/article/the-ukraine-debacle/#comment-5317866

    The word “expand” appears multiple times. NATO expansion only began two years after that agreement.

    No, it does not. Check for yourself:
    https://1997-2001.state.gov/regions/eur/fs_nato_whitehouse.html
    and the official text,
    https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/official_texts_25468.htm

    And here is the clear statements at the end of the 1st document. I would rather call them the “backstabbing” NATO made, after all that talk about “cooperation”, “shared security space”, etc:

    NATO retains its full prerogatives. While Russia will work closely with NATO, it will not work within NATO. The Act makes clear that Russia has no veto over alliance decisions and NATO retains the right to act independently when it so chooses.

    The Act has no impact on NATO enlargement. That process is proceeding on schedule; NATO leaders at the Madrid summit in July will extend invitations to the first countries to begin accession talks. Those countries admitted will have the full rights and responsibilities of Alliance membership, and the door to membership will remain open to all emerging European democracies.

    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
  211. annamaria says:
    @emerging majority

    This is what drives the Banksters and War profiteers toward WWIII:

    “Top Gun In Real War”

    https://www.rt.com/russia/554898-russia-investiagtes-ukraine-biolabs/

  212. @Been_there_done_that

    “Facts”? More like granulated opinions. Pilpul.

  213. @DevilAdvocate

    No, you did not. Here is the comment

    You selected the wrong comment. I referred to one on March 8, 2022 at 4:58 am GMT in an interchange with the Doug Hillman handle:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-putin-as-hitler/?showcomments#comment-5218099

    No, it does not. Check for yourself

    It appears six times, which I consider “multiple“.

    While I am on the topic of that 1997 agreement, I would like to point out that the second paragraph under the heading IV. Political-Military Matters contains the word “nuclear” nine times. It begins with the following sentence:

    The member States of NATO reiterate that they have no intention, no plan and no reason to deploy nuclear weapons on the territory of new members, nor any need to change any aspect of NATO’s nuclear posture or nuclear policy – and do not foresee any future need to do so.

    Since NATO forces have since then not installed nuclear weapons in any of the countries that have joined since 1999, this assurance completely invalidates the shameless narrative that Russia has only recently been advancing, about NATO posing some imaginary security threat, most recently alluded to by professional liar Lavrov (Remember “nobody intends to invade Ukraine” just before the war?), in an interview with the Xinhua news agency:

    …strengthen their own security at the expense of the security of others…

    Of course it is just the latest propaganda cliche, so he cannot specify what scenario he is even alluding to. The missile base recently installed in Romania near Serbia has a defensive system intended to intercept and destroy incoming missiles, similar to the Patriot or Iron Dome systems in Israel. Russia is now repeating the same security threat mantra we have heard from Israel for many decades, with the difference being that nobody has even rhetorically threatened to invade Russian territory, which is large (numerous time zones), while Russia has nuclear-capable Iskander missiles in the Königsberg / Kaliningrad region, that can reach as far as Berlin and Copenhagen, and all of Poland. The shameless hypocrisy is just amazing.

    Incidentally, here is another recent example of what a liar Lavrov is, from Friday, February, 18, 2022, less than a week before Russia initiated its war of aggression against Ukraine.

    Russia has no intention to attack Ukraine: deputy FM

    18-02-2022

    Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov told RT on Friday that the West’s claim that his country will “invade” Ukraine is “propaganda, fake news [and] fiction.”

    https://www.rudaw.net/english/world/180220222

    Why would so many people orient themselves by such stories, coming from proven habitual liars, to determine what they perceive and regurgitate?

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @DevilAdvocate
  214. annamaria says:

    https://thesaker.is/war-realities-top-gun-romantics-mercenaries-the-reality-of-a-wall-socket/
    Comments: ariadna on May 03, 2022

    “But this attack is not just against Russia. It is against every human on earth who wishes to be free and left alone. Everyone must be brought to such a terrible state that submission to the overlords is the only thing left.”

    Yes, yes, and yes!
    This is, in fact, the only point Mr. Martyanov misses when he calls the rats in charge of the West Asylum the idiots and incompetents who ruin the European economies: that it is not a consequence of blind imbecility but that it is DELIBERATE. Not that there is a scarcity of imbecility at the lower levels of the vast supranational bureaucracy, but the agenda is set from higher up. The ‘Great Reset’ demands destruction first: Condoleeza Rice’s “creative chaos.”

    Yes, Condi, the ugly colored (and flirtatious) pretender on “thinker,” who is forever chained to Cheney the Traitor and Bush the lesser. The dead-eyed psychopaths in charge.

  215. annamaria says:
    @Been_there_done_that

    Jump!

    “Russia’s Sergey Lavrov asserts Hitler “had Jewish blood,” prompting Israeli government fury”

    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
  216. @meamjojo

    I think my point was laid out pretty clearly. Your reading comprehension is lacking.

  217. @Been_there_done_that

    It appears six times, which I consider “multiple“.

    NOT ONE of those “expansions” refer to “expansion of NATO through adding more state members” !

    As you now obviously can’t read, I transcribe all the 6 times:

    NATO has expanded and will continue to expand its political functions

    This obviously refers to internal functions of NATO.

    NATO and Russia will also encourage expanded dialogue and cooperation between the North Atlantic Assembly and the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation.

    No comment.

    In building their relationship, NATO and Russia will focus on specific areas of mutual interest. They will consult and strive to cooperate to the broadest possible degree in the following areas:

    – coordinating a programme of expanded cooperation between respective military establishments

    Again, no comment.

    NATO and Russia, in order to develop cooperation between their military establishments, will expand political-military consultations and cooperation through the Permanent Joint Council with an enhanced dialogue between the senior military authorities of NATO and its member States and of Russia. They will implement a programme of significantly expanded military activities and practical cooperation between NATO and Russia at all levels.

    All this points instead clearly for dialogue, cooperation, consultations between NATO and Russia, with a view for increased global security of BOTH sides (and Europe). Which obviously didn’t happened, and instead NATO looked only to increase THEIR OWN side, at the expense of security of Russia.
    Thanks for pointing me this “Founding Act”, it’s just one more proof of the bad faith of NATO and its masters. And the bad faith of defenders, like you.

    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
  218. annamaria says:
    @meamjojo

    There will be more confessions, including from the higher-ups:

    • Replies: @Kurt Knispel
  219. @annamaria

    Russia’s Sergey Lavrov asserts Hitler “had Jewish blood,”…

    We will have to wait to see the documentation he presents because he wasn’t specific.

    These claims and rumors have been around for many decades, so this is not a revelation. I have pointed out here that his paternal grandfather was alleged to have been Salomom Mayer von Rothschild in Vienna:

    March 9, 2022 at 7:11 pm GMT
    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-putin-as-hitler/?showcomments#comment-5221508

  220. @DevilAdvocate

    Thanks for pointing me this “Founding Act”, it’s just one more proof of the bad faith of NATO and its masters.

    This is your skewed personal interpretation, which I do not think is valid. NATO did not simply expand by itself, on its own accord due to internal decisions, but because other countries wanted to join it, to enhance their own sense of security, so of course in the agreement NATO could not already predict and denote what would happen in the future, which you insinuated it should have, so through your comment you have only exposed a logical flaw in your reasoning. If others, like Mearsheimer, would have thought like that, then they would surely have highlighted this document, but instead it is treated as a big taboo that cannot be mentioned because the basic terms Russia agreed to invalidates its fake narrative.

    After signing the agreement, Russia had an additional two years, to prevent Poland, Hungary, and Czechia from wanting to join, by fostering good relations with its neighbors and withdrawing from the illegally occupied Königsberg / Kaliningrad region, but its arrogant leaders chose a confrontational course instead. This is why I have repeatedly stressed the importance of that unresolved issue and maintained that Russia has itself to blame. Recently its propagandists have emulated the whining Israeli tactic of invoking the “security” card to fool gullible people into sympathizing with Russia without ever explaining precisely what they mean, other than concocting outrageous fantasies and emotional hysteria.

    • Replies: @DevilAdvocate
  221. @Been_there_done_that

    It’s indeed a waste of time trying to make you see some truth…

    NATO did not simply expand by itself, on its own accord due to internal decisions, but because other countries wanted to join it, to enhance their own sense of security, so of course in the agreement NATO could not already predict and denote what would happen in the future,

    So, where are the “expansion” allowances you cited as being part of the agreement, given with full consent of Russia ?
    You are now conveniently directing your reasoning out of that line (a line you defended) into another one which has nothing with what was written in that document.

    And even if there were developments not predicted, why wasn’t Russia consulted and all the matters discussed and negotiated as it was clearly stated in the agreement ?

    because the basic terms Russia agreed to invalidates its fake narrative.

    You still have not pointed me which basic terms are there… “Expansion” ? Nope. Which card are are you pulling now from your sleeve ?…

    Recently its propagandists have emulated the whining Israeli tactic of invoking the “security” card to fool gullible people into sympathizing with Russia without ever explaining precisely what they mean,

    Have you ever heard about the 1999 Istanbul Summit and the 2010 Astana Declaration ?
    In fact, it’s YOU who are trying to fool people. But, thanks to your own contradictions, everybody is getting a clear picture about you. And your team…

    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
  222. The mural at Kievskaya metro sums up Russia’s patronizing attitude to Ukraine even better than this article.

    Ukraine is the mother and Muscovy has been gone since 1237. The Empire came back starting 1654 with invasion, starvation, religious intolerance, language suppression, betrayals and repeated wars of repression.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  223. Blissex says:
    @antibeast

    «Four months later, Russia invaded Georgia in August 2008.»

    That is a “Washington Consensus” fabrication, a pure fantasy, not even a biased exaggeration: there was a small garrison of RF peacekeers in south-Ossetia (and the ossetians are not russians), that had used its U.N. Charter right to self-determination, and the georgians under Saakhashvili started a war of aggression and ethnic cleansing against both those peacekeepers and the ossetians. The RF military then counterattacked, and after some mess and difficulty defeating the Saakashvili’s fascists, it retreated and left Georgia alone.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-georgia-russia-opposition/saakashvili-planned-s-ossetia-invasion-ex-minister-idUSLD12378020080914
    «PARIS (Reuters) – Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili had long planned a military strike to seize back the breakaway region of South Ossetia but executed it poorly, making it easy for Russia to retaliate, Saakashvili’s former defence minister said. […] the United States was partly to blame for the war, having failed to check the ambitions of what he called a man with democratic failings.»

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/georgia/2524550/Russia-invades-Georgia-as-South-Ossetia-descends-towards-war.html
    «5:13PM BST 08 Aug 2008
    World leaders have appealed for a ceasefire in the conflict, which erupted after Georgia launched a huge offensive aimed at imposing its control over the rebel province with its large Russian population.»

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18269210
    «Tensions came to head in early August 2008, when, after nearly a week of clashes between Georgian troops and separatist forces, Georgia launched a concerted air and ground assault attack on South Ossetia’s main city, Tskhinvali.»

    http://www.ecfr.eu/article/commentary_in_the_shadow_of_ukraine_seven_years_on_from_russian_3086
    «Fatefully, the Georgian leadership attempted to pre-empt further Russian aggression and advanced into Ossetian territory. In doing so, they allowed Russia to claim that Georgian aggression started the war.»

    In the case of the Donbas the Russian Federation took 8 years before trying to stop the war of aggression started by the Ukraine against the Donbas. There is a reason for that: for 8 years the Russian Federation considered that a civil war within Ukraine, and only tried to help find a negotiated end (the Minsk 2 treaty). But last February the Donbas declared independence, agreed a treaty of mutual defence with the Russian Federation, and when the ukrainians continued to attack the newly independent Donbas, the Russian Federation helped them to counter-attack after a week.

  224. annamaria says:
    @Philip Owen

    “religious intolerance, language suppression, betrayals and repeated wars of repression.”
    — You are describing your beloved state of Israel.

  225. @annamaria

    These Integrity Initiative trolls specialise in the crudest projection, falsely accusing their victims of their own crimes.

  226. @Blissex

    The last of the commentaries comes from the European Council on Foreign Relations, a sewer of Imperial arse-lickers so craven that they ape their Yankee Masters’ in the title of their organisation. It is, the commentary, a sorry slop of lies and inventions, but that’s the glorious Free World, is it not?

  227. @DevilAdvocate

    A truly Evil pos, but a creation of ‘Fagin’ Holomoisky. And treated by the vermin scum of the Western MSM as a hero.

    • Agree: DevilAdvocate
  228. @DevilAdvocate

    …why wasn’t Russia consulted and all the matters discussed and negotiated as it was clearly stated in the agreement ?

    You are making presumptions. Russian representatives likely were informed and consulted, but that does not mean they could veto the choices of other countries to join, which leads to expansion.

    …which basic terms are there… “Expansion” ?

    The right of sovereign countries to choose their alliances is a basic term. This is a clear repudiation of the antiquated “sphere of influence” entitlement, which is a euphemism for engaging in subjugation.

    Like Israelis, Russians still appear to be so inflated with ta sense of their own supremacy and importance that they cannot seem to comprehend why they have been disliked by their neighboring countries.

    • Replies: @DevilAdvocate
  229. antibeast says:
    @Blissex

    The point is my last post is that NATO offered membership to Georgia and Ukraine as early as 2008 which was opposed by Putin who spoke out against it during the Bucharest Summit. Before then in 2004, the US Deep State had instigated ‘color revolutions’ in Georgia and Ukraine called ‘Rose’ and ‘Orange’ Revolutions, respectively. That year saw Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia and Slovenia joining NATO which was joined by the Czech Republic, Hungary and Poland five years earlier in 1999.

    Thus, NATO expansion to Eastern Europe began as early as 1999, adding new seven members in 2004, until Russian military intervention stopped Georgia from joining NATO in 2008. Ukraine was set to join NATO but was stopped by Viktor Yanukovych who became President in 2010. The US Deep State then instigated the Maidan Revolution which toppled Yanukovych in 2014, leading to the Russian annexation of Crimea. The subsequent Ukrainian Civil War then prompted Russian military intervention in 2022.

    NATO expansion to Eastern Europe followed its military interventions in Yugoslavia during the 1990s, shortly after the Fall of the Soviet Union. The US withdrawal from the ABM and INF treaties in 2002 and 2019, respectively, further underscored the strategic intent of the US-led NATO to ‘contain’ Russia militarily.

  230. Anonymous[197] • Disclaimer says:
    @antibeast

    1) Your objections to Ziehan’s work.

    a) JAPAN: Japan industrialized quickly after the Korean War (when the US built up Japan as a logistics base) because the Japanese had already become industrialized, Meiji reformation, and knew how to run industry. They also had the IQ needed to do so. Compare the Japanese with the Germans after WW II, and you will see the same pattern. China’s industrialization is a bit more difficult to explain, as the Chinese had not been previously industrialized, but seems to have been the result of China’s (and the US) policy of demanding turnkey industrial plants for firms wanting a Chinese branch, and in some cases depending on Westerners to keep China resident automated equipment running.
    Zeihan points out that Japan stopped ascending the economic ladder when its demographic profile ran out of young labor, and says the same thing has happened to China maybe a decade or so ago. He also says that the decline in the youth portion of China’s demography will continue, and that the population of China will halve in about 2050 as the old die of old age and the young are few.

    b) CHINA: Here, Zeihan does rely on geography, but it is a valid reliance. China really does depend on open sea lanes, and was, literally, freed from its captivity inside the First Island Chain by the US, under Nixon with help from Henry the K (as opposed to Henry the Vth, who lived a long time ago).

    c) DEEP STATE: The Deep State is, right now, in a fight for its life against the American population (hence Deep State’s condemnations of “populism” as the greatest worldwide threat to their control of US democracy). The American population is not enthusiastic about intervention anywhere in the world, not after the wars undertaken by one faction of the Deep State and then sabotaged by another faction in order to discredit the first faction.

    2) I realize that Zeihan’s doesn’t have a Grand Unified Theory (GUT) of everything, and that he tailors his emphasis depending on his audience. His strength is recognizing tie implications of facts that everybody else knows, but whose implications everybody else ignores.

    Prominent Examples:

    a) Globalization is dependent on US maintaining open sea lanes. This requires US foreign bases and active patrolling by the US Navy. US provision of open sea lanes was a Cold War strategy, and is being quietly abandoned now that the Cold War is over. That is, the US is abandoning global free trade.

    b) The US has been hurt noticeably by attempts to maintain Globalism (most notably the failure of Bush II’s attempt to integrate Afghanistan and Iraq into that system), and would be able to stand on its own (although not as well as Zeihan says), so is unlikely continue supporting Globalism.

    c) The influence of demographic structure. Yes, countries with many young can provide strong manufacturing. Yes, developed countries with many old can provide capital. And the converse is true, so the destruction of fertility by Globalization / industrialization has destroyed the basis of Globalism itself, independently of (a). These effects are most noticeable in China, and are manifesting themselves as an increasing fear of the future (mischaracterized as “paranoia” – it isn’t paranoia when the threats are real. In this case, it seems likely that China’s demographic structure doesn’t permit it to produce enough trade goods to maintain its input of raw materials and components that China cannot itself manufacture. ).

    3) I disagree with several of Zeihan’s assertions, however.

    a) I disagree with Zeihan’s assertion that the Russian Federation (RF) is trying to block all 9 historic invasion routes to the RF. You should remember that, while the RF is undergoing a demographic decline (let’s say “decline”), so is every country that might try to invade RF. If the RF’s Army infantry/Army armor / Army artillery /Navy/Air Force has lost an ability to conduct combined operations that it had at the end of the Chechen War, well, NATO has no force large enough to counter even such an inept Russian Army, and won’t because of NATO demographic collapse. Putin’s stated war aims seem more in line of what Russia can actually accomplish to defeat current threats. And the US reluctance to do more than “ship weapons” and “ship trainers” to Ukraine underlines US reluctance to underwrite Globalism, as discussed back in (a) and (b).

    b) I also think that Zeihan’s prognosis for declining urban areas in Europe and the US is overly optimistic. Zeihan follows the Enlightenment view of human equality, a view that HBD has pretty much demolished. Zeihan does not understand that US decaying urban areas are supported by politics, that this is just as much a byproduct of the Cold War as is US protecting Globalism, and that the US doesn’t have the money or resources to support the cities, just as it lacks the money and resources to support Globalism.
    Zeihan also does not understand the structure and history of the US urban based political system, or that this system is willing to install a one-party government and a command economy in the US to protect itself. Even here, however, Zeihan’s understanding of political change is better than most.

    c) As for

    Washington has been and is causing crises in its quest to consolidate its hegemony, resisting the collapse of the unipolar world. The United States is doing everything to ensure that other centers of the multipolar world do not even dare to raise their heads, and our country not only dared, but publicly declared that it will not play by the imposed rules. They tried to force Russia to give up its sovereignty, identity, culture, and independent foreign and domestic policy.
    Nikolai Patrushev

    well, of course what he says in the above quotation is correct, to an extent. The US Federal Government’s Deep State did not want the world to decline into poverty stricken autarkies, and IMHO was hoping to prevent that with the Iraq and Afghanistan invasions by demonstrating that a turbulent Islamic world could be turned into something like Turkey, as Germany had been turned into a supporter of the global trade. Turned out that the US, at least, couldn’t turn the Islamic world into something like Turkey, but could get many people killed/wounded/crippled, including US troops. I’ve worked with some of those troops who never recovered their minds. Cheerful people, most of them, but either permanently slow mentally or else prone to dramatically reliving traumatic events.
    As to the source of US persecution of Russia after 1990 AD, it’s a mystery to me. IMHO, Putin’s request to join NATO should have been honored. It’s still more a mystery when you consider the welcoming treatment of the People’s Republic of China (PRC)
    The above is only my opinion; why the US did that is an active topic of discussion on unz.com, and there are several theories, quite a few involving Israel. You should remember that the US political system is based on political professionals from large cities, who assemble coalitions. People outside the coalitions are simply ignored and lied to, quite often contemptuously [1]. A “populist revolt” [2], like the one that put Trump in the Presidency, is possible, but still doesn’t give any power to actual voters. In effect, the people of the US are free to try to choose their rulers (if they don’t choose Trump, anyway), but not much free beyond that. We must guess at what our rulers are doing, and, as they lie better than wall to wall carpeting, guessing isn’t always accurate.

    But the combination of Zeihan’s observations (a, b) with Europe’s obvious need to obtain Russian resources, plus its obvious resentment of US rule, could actually produce what Patushev mentions:

    America will be freed from its main geopolitical fear – the political and economic union of Russia and Europe.
    Patrushev

    The US might be pushed out of Europe, and Europe/Russia might just develop independence of policy. Europe and Russia might even survive their demographic problems and the global famine that will kick off in 2022/10, about 5 months from now.

    If Zeihan is correct, you and the RF will be surprised at how little the Americans care about that, at least in the short term. Remember, the US is not living under a democratic government just now. The current government was not legally elected, and in any case the Executive Branch is ignoring the Legislative and Judicial Branch whenever the Executive Branch feels like it. The actual American population will not care because supporting the Cold War after 1990 has cost us too much, possibly including control over the country we live in, the US. Whatever Washington wants, the US population essentially wants it all to just stop and go away — far, far, away, maybe to the other side of the Atlantic — and stay there. The US is rather like the UK when it gave up control of India and Africa – enough it enough. No, we’re not sending troops and money. AUKUS is the most we’ll do, and AUKUS won’t police global trade routes.

    One other thing: you might tell Nikolai Patrushev (NP) (if it is convenient) that crude insults don’t really add anything to the force of his argument in the West, and I sincerely hope that they don’t really add anything to the force of his argument in Russia. “settlers from England robbed and killed the Indians because they thought they were uncivilized savages” is an example. The Pilgrims tried to maintain good relations with the Indians because there were few Pilgrims and many Indians. The Indians raided farms. The result, King Philips War, produced a higher percentage of casualties among the Pilgrims and their Indian allies than the US Civil War inflicted on its combatants. That’s a bit different from NP’s account. See: https://www.britannica.com/event/King-Philips-War

    ——————————————————————————————————
    1] Tucker: This is why Democrats are taking us to war with Russia ; YouTube.com

    2] “Populist revolt”, in practice, means the election of an official through majority vote, but only when the governing political machine in the election’s area favored another official. See: Plunkett, _Plunkett of Tammany Hall: Some Very Plain Talk about Very Practical Politics_, a collection of newspaper stories from about 1900 AD, and available on Project Gutenberg. Plunkett explained how Tammany Hall worked back then, and Tammany Hall is the ancestor of today’s Democratic Party; Plunkett’s principles are also the principles of the Deep State.

  231. Many non- friends of Ukraine posting here I am afraid. Ukie is a failed state, sorry to say. I visited once 4-5 decades ago and it was very friendly and hospitable country to visit. My small sister had almost white hair and all the Babushkas swarmed around her, because of that. but then a relatively prosperous country, population either semifluent in German or even English, and it was a treat!
    Great and beautiful place to visit.
    sigh memories!

  232. @Anonymous

    Thank you for your deeply thought out and thoroughly researched essay. I would have a few minor quibbles, but overall your analysis is astute and to the point.

    Anonymity here is of course, not fully protected from any but fellow posters…in itself a bit of a blessing as some of them are monomaniacal and others are paid disruptors for various control mechanisms.

    In any event, do keep posting. Perhaps next time you might serialize as the attention span of those who need to read your messages can at times be a bit attenuated.

  233. @Been_there_done_that

    You are making presumptions. Russian representatives likely were informed and consulted,

    It’s rather you making presumptions. If the matter was indeed taken to the table with the russians, they would have opposed it since long ago, and made a lot of noise about it. But of course you don’t have any proof this was the case, so the obvious conclusion is simply they were dismissed and the terms of the agreement were never fulfilled by NATO.

    The right of sovereign countries to choose their alliances is a basic term.

    Except this right is AGAINST what is stated in the Agreement, if it violates the principle of indivisibility of security of all parties. And again, this principle is clearly stated in the 1997 Agreement (as it is in other agreements, that you conveniently forgot since my mention of them…):

    Proceeding from the principle that the security of all states in the Euro-Atlantic community is indivisible, NATO and Russia will work together to contribute to the establishment in Europe of common and comprehensive security based on the allegiance to shared values, commitments and norms of behaviour in the interests of all states.

    And that right “to choose their alliances” is never written in the Agreement. Will you tell me again a fun story like the “expansion of NATO is written 6 times there” ?…

    the antiquated “sphere of influence” entitlement, which is a euphemism for engaging in subjugation.

    This is antique yes, but it’s also present, and will continue in the future, for still a long time.
    You look like some friends of mine, who live in their dreams and refuse to face reality. Someone has pointed here you should quite probably be autistic, which would fit well with your thinking pattern and your refusal to see evidences.
    But I tend rather to think you are very well aware of this, and you have a clear agenda of pushing people to fall into believing some “dream idealistic world”, where western “democracies” are the good guys, and the others are the bad ones.
    Good try ! But not everyone is so gullible.

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  234. antibeast says:
    @Anonymous

    Wow, man, that was a long treatise! I do get where you’re coming from now that you’ve mentioned the populist revolt against the US Deep State as exemplified by Trumpism. But that is exactly why the US Deep State reacted the way they did to the rise of the ‘America First’ movement under Trump. First, they tried stonewalling his efforts to tear down the USA Empire. Then they tried deposing him twice. Finally, they framed him in a staged coup leading to the Capitol Riots by rigging the 2020 Presidential Elections. Now, they have declared the Capitol Rioters as ‘domestic terrorists’ who are being prosecuted as such in the ongoing witch-hunt in Washington, D.C.

    The Ukraine Crisis came about when the US Deep State realized they had to do something fast to sabotage the peace process which culminated in the Minsk Accords. After the completion of the NS2 pipeline, Russia was about to cement its economic relationship with Germany which would have implied the future integration of the European continent. But Macron’s words describing NATO as ‘brain-dead’ and his calls for NATO to be replaced by an EU Army prompted a visceral response from the US Deep State which needed a raison d’etre for the continued existence of NATO. That was what precipitated the Ukraine Crisis which triggered the Russian invasion.

    I don’t agree with your view that China was treated ‘better’ than Russia during the 1990s because the USA had imposed sanctions on China after Deng cracked down on the Tiananmen Student Protests which turned into a failed ‘color revolution’. If anything, China escaped the fate of Russia because Deng refused to liberalize the political system. Instead, Deng liberalized the economic system by allowing private Capital to participate in a State-dominated market economy. That was what propelled the Chinese economy while Russia suffered from an economic depression during the 1990s. By the way, Russia was invited to join the G7 and allowed to participate in the ISS while China was not.

    After the Fall of the USSR, the US Deep State was planning on expanding NATO to prevent the EU from forming their own Army, something that has been proposed since De Gaulle. That’s what prompted the US-NATO military interventions in Yugoslavia during the 1990s. Russia under Yeltsin couldn’t do much except watch in horror even after the Czech Republic, Hungary and Poland joined NATO which bombed Serbia on the same year in 1999. In the meantime, the US Deep State was inching to move back to the ‘Great Game’ in Asia by staging the ‘9-11’ false flag which became the casus belli for the Wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. This was caused partly by imperialist hubris but also by the need to protect the House of Saud and its Petrodollar System from Saddam Hussein. The US Deep State then recruited Obama to expand the ‘War on Terror’ to seven countries — all Muslim — while announcing his ‘Pivot to Asia’ to contain China. But then something happened — Trump won against Clinton in the 2016 Presidential Elections — which incensed the US Deep State so much they’re now exacting their vengeance against Trump and his ‘Deplorables’.

    Zeihan’s theory of geopolitics is too sophomoric to be taken seriously. His ideas remind me of the book ‘Guns, Germs and Steel’ by Jared Diamond. His view on the importance of population demographics to industrial output is contradicted by the economic performance of the top two leading industrial powers in the world — Japan and Germany — which only has 200M people combined but outperforms the bottom 5B population in the developing world. His thesis that the US Navy plays the ‘Globalist Cop’ in the high seas which paved the way for Economic Globalization and International Trade to the detriment of US manufacturing industries while benefiting developing countries like China is spot-on. His prognosis that the USA is no longer dependent on Arab oil is correct which implies that the US military no longer need to act as a sheriff for Arab Sheikdoms in the Middle East. His other ideas on arable land, natural resources, navigable waterways, climate, geography, etc. betrays his bias for environmental determinism which is not my cup of tea. LKY has a very different view on what factors determine the fate of human societies,

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  235. @DevilAdvocate

    …if it violates the principle of indivisibility of security of all parties.

    What is “indivisibility of security” supposed to even mean? Neither you, Lavrov, Mearsheimer, Lavelle on RT Crosstalk, Whitney, who has put out vile propaganda on this site, or anyone else has ever defined this succinctly because it is a purely subjective construct, basically just a feel-good psychobabble cliché, which the Astana declaration is full of. How was Poland, Hungary, or Czechia joining NATO supposed to have violated this mushy principle? More importantly, why did Russia placing nuclear capable missiles in the occupied Königsberg / Kaliningrad region to potentially threaten the sense of security of tens of millions of people not violate this concept?

    And that right “to choose their alliances” is never written in the Agreement.

    This principle was already agreed to in the Helsinki Final Act in 1975 and is reiterated in the 1997 agreement with the following phrase, which obviously includes alliances:

    …their inherent right to choose the means to ensure their own security…

    This is antique yes, but it’s also present…

    It is not the modern standard of acceptable behavior, and countries have the right to resist subjugation and bullying. This is what Putin did last December with his so-called “red lines“, which those who idolize him thought he was entitled to demand be adhered to, but the threats he issued were illegal under the UN Charter. You circumscribe those who resist such expressions of arrogance and rogue behavior as “refuse to face reality“. Putin had no right to impose his deluded “reality” onto millions of others and will surely suffer the consequences.

    Your objections to basic facts and principles are untenable and your tacit endorsement of Russian supremacist violence in furtherance of territorial expansion is odious.

  236. @annamaria

    Andrew Hill and cohorts came looking for “work”.
    Now he wants to go home…
    He will probably have to stay and work for real (estates).
    Rebuilding will take decades.

  237. Anonymous[357] • Disclaimer says:
    @antibeast

    After the Fall of the USSR, the US Deep State was planning on expanding NATO to prevent the EU from forming their own Army, something that has been proposed since De Gaulle. That’s what prompted the US-NATO military interventions in Yugoslavia during the 1990s. Russia under Yeltsin couldn’t do much except watch in horror even after the Czech Republic, Hungary and Poland joined NATO which bombed Serbia on the same year in 1999. In the meantime, the US Deep State was inching to move back to the ‘Great Game’ in Asia by staging the ‘9-11’ false flag which became the casus belli for the Wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. This was caused partly by imperialist hubris but also by the need to protect the House of Saud and its Petrodollar System from Saddam Hussein. The US Deep State then recruited Obama to expand the ‘War on Terror’ to seven countries — all Muslim — while announcing his ‘Pivot to Asia’ to contain China. But then something happened — Trump won against Clinton in the 2016 Presidential Elections — which incensed the US Deep State so much they’re now exacting their vengeance against Trump and his ‘Deplorables’.

    I agree with you on all points, and would like to add that former Pres. Obama was apparently developed (as was former Pres. W. Clinton) deliberately, starting with late childhood, for the role he eventually played. Obviously former Pres. Obama was not entirely a puppet – he played his own game, and continues to do so – but he did follow guidance on US foreign policy, as you say.

    The Deep State is a very important entity, and it depends on Globalization theory. It was apparently trying to spread Globalization to the Islamic world, and failed badly, but is still in power in the US and Europe. I think it is crippled by its internal composition — that bit about introducing “women’s studies” to Islamic countries was a necessary consequence of the Deep State’s ethnic composition, but guaranteed that the military attempt to spread Globalization to the Islamic world would fail. The Deep State seems to have unleashed King Stork by making Obama its Leader, and IMHO that mistake has exiled the Jewish interest both from the Deep State and Hollywood, with more to come. It also seems to have energized a coalition of several ethnic groups thought to have been defeated by perhaps the 1880s (rise of the Progressives) with ethnic groups thought to be unable to organize themselves (Hispanics). More on that in next segment.

    On methodology

    [MORE]

    We are each employing a different methodology. You are looking at the institutional level – which institution did what. I’m trying to follow a more Turchin/Woodward/Fisher-like approach, looking at underlying groups, historical behavior, and physical influences on behavior. Analogically, I’m trying to make out the sun and the wind that determines whether people wear coats or don’t (https://etc.usf.edu/lit2go/35/aesops-fables/697/the-wind-and-the-sun/). I have a bad case of what Dutton would call “genius profile”, right down to having been born prematurely and having a tested IQ in the 140 plus region. In my case, I also come from a very high casualty/mortality background. The consequence is that I’m preoccupied with threat identification and neutralization. I’m also educated in engineering of various sorts, including Operations Research with a side helping of mathematical and political philosophy and a few other areas as well. I want something to look into the future, not just tell me what happened in the past. You can run into a tree if you only have a rear-view mirror. I’ve seen enough people who have “hit the tree” that I don’t want to try it myself, or to see it in my friends and relations. Remember, though, I’m trying to do the minimum of analyses required to stay alive and keep my surviving relatives alive.[0]
    This approach paid off on Bitcoin, for example. Fundamental realization was that there was not real trust in finance, and that artificial trust would have a large market and could, if reliable, have a very large market. Bitcoin at 300 showed itself to be a survivor, and turned into a good investment (or WAG, take your choice).
    I won’t say that my approach is superior to the your approach, though. The methodology I use will generate more false alarms, and it takes time to make a usefully accurate picture of the future. And sometimes it fails completely, as in the quite real Y2K concern.
    To take an historical example of “can’t win ’em all”: Newton, founder of the successful Classical Physics, also did considerable work in chemistry, but his approach was wrong and the research came to little or nothing. Same with his work on theology and the Pyramids [1]. OTOH, he did well as overseer of the mint, inventing milling [2], and it is said by some that he invented the cat door [3].

    On Zeihan and secondary factors.

    Zeihan actually makes his living as a free-lance intelligence analyst, by impressing businessmen, and sometimes government people. That makes him a showman, and he’s good at what he does. He tends to bombast, but the facts he turns up impress me. The role of the USN is something I saw a long time ago, and it’s obvious once pointed out, yet very few mentioned it as important. Same with the Russian oil wells and permafrost. Of course, sometimes he gets it wrong, but the idea that the Russian oil fields might be disabled for five years or so and only become operable with Western participation, starting in five years, at least looks important. China seems to be in the same general position of needing Western capital goods and maintenance personnel for these goods in its more advanced industries. Further, the demographic profiles of industrial countries are more dire than I had thought [4]. The population pyramid today has about the same arrowhead shape that China’s does, and the projected European population, assuming replacement level births (which won’t be met, most likely) is down by 20% by 2100. Actual estimates are that the 20% will be made up of immigrants, necessarily from non-industrialized countries because non-industrialized countries are the only ones with young people that they can spare. This implies the usual “live until we die” prosperity from many experienced employees, but hard times with many unexperienced employees.
    Demographic profiles are marginal, in a way. They do not determine which countries can support industry; if they did, then Africa would contain industrial giants.
    However, as we in the US are seeing as Baby Boomers age, if there aren’t enough young for the job, and it since they’ve been systematically crippled by their educational system so that they will vote Democratic, then US industry will have a hard time operating. Yes, I know about automation; I’ve done work in the area. Automation right now is essentially the old Ford transfer line updated with computers, it is not good at small batches, and it requires considerable human support. Support that can’t be given by the senile or sick or uneducated or sub-85 IQ.
    Same with the Mississippi Basin and water transport. _If_ you have a population that can support industrialization, it helps to have cheap internal transport. China has an extensive inland waterway system also, and most Chinese population is near the sea or the rivers. OTH, parts of Africa have water transport internally and a seacoast, but apparently have populations that will not tolerate industrialization.
    Water transport is, in most cases, a secondary advantage; Mexico lacks inland water transport but is now industrializing. I think that most of Zeihan’s conclusions based on arable land, natural resources, navigable waterways, climate, geography, etc. are analyses of secondary factors that are none the less important.
    Examples of important secondary factors: Toynbee had a theory of “challenges” that also considered secondary factors. Toynbee pointed out that the US Northeast included New York City/Hudson Valley, Massachusetts, and Maine; all had about the same ethnic group and civilization in, say, 1770 (Bostoners of the age might have disagreed with me there.). Maine never did develop into an important part – too cold, bad soil. Further: Until the Erie Canal, Boston and New York were both cut off from the US inland market, and were about equally important. With the Erie Canal, however, New York City jumped ahead until it became obsolete, around 1970 AD. The Erie Canal opened markets that Boston could not reach, and the invention of containers bypassed trade around New York City.
    And there is Argentina vs. US. Argentina was about on a par with the US in the early 1900s, but after the 1930s it destabilized. Same trade, same physical assets, nobody had invaded, but down she went, and down she stayed. Nobody seems to know why [5].

    Secondary factors are only secondary, and sometimes very important, sometimes not. Nobody seems to know why.

    In summary:

    * You’re doing something productive I don’t and probably can’t. I’m using a different approach, more out of my background than anything else.

    * Zeihan’s medium term prediction concludes about the same thing as Turchin’s long term prediction: severe trouble and subsequent reorganization in our immediate future. Nice when two different methodologies lead to the same conclusion. We seem to be within the probable error of both people’s predictions. Good opportunity to check their results against real life, no? My results too. And we get to see what happens to the organizations you are following.

    **********************************************
    0] On Keats’ real motivation for poetry:
    One day, when Keats was wan and ill,
    a bird alit on Keats’ window sill,
    and dropped a hundred dollar bill,
    and said to Keats, in a gentle tone,
    “Remember, this is just a loan.”
    That’s why Keats wrote, though wan and pale,
    of what he “Owed to a Nightingale”.

    1] https://libraries.indiana.edu/chymistry-isaac-newton
    https://duckduckgo.com/l/?uddg=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sci%2Dnature.vip%2F2022%2F04%2Fisaac%2Dnewtons%2Dsecret%2Dgreat%2Dpyramid.html&rut=82d9802594b75b25000596da268be13be675b9131b79d190d074c5b9fc9491e2
    https://rsc.byu.edu/converging-paths-truth/brief-survey-sir-isaac-newtons-views-religion

    2] https://www.perthmint.com/news/collector/coin-collecting/how-isaac-newton-helped-shape-our-coins/

    3] https://science.howstuffworks.com/innovation/famous-inventors/5-isaac-newton-inventions.htm

    4] https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?oldid=497115

    5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_history_of_Argentina See section “Argentine paradox” for the various WAGS about what happened.

    • Replies: @antibeast
  238. Man proposes, God disposes.

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xI_etJQUL5Q

    Evil cretins propose and foster the destruction of Russia.
    The result of “The West” terrorising the Russian peoples will make Russian peoples stronger and more unified. The looser will be “The West” and the Jew in particular:

    [MORE]

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/russia-doubles-down-says-israel-supports-neo-nazi-regime-ukraine-1.10777197
    https://www.rt.com/russia/553365-ukraine-will-be-big-israel/

    But(t) nooking at Jewish behindes … Russia should consider ZionLendSki’s demand to surrender now, before it is too late, because Jewkraine is mobilizing the VolkSSturm now:

    Russian soldiers are under enormous pressure too…
    …imagine returning home to her as a looser:

    So, better stay with winners and forget the digital spinners, twisters and twitterers of Israhell and their something maps of the Donbassa (showing nothing).

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/g18bHnM7Mfg

  239. @annamaria

    I can trace my parts of my ancestry 14 generations before it gets lost in the usual royal geneaologies. The rest mostly 5 or 6 generations, sometimes more. No onnection to Israel or Hebrews.

  240. antibeast says:
    @Anonymous

    Zeihan makes his living proffering his theory of geopolitics based on environmental determinism which he uses to make his case that the USA would remain the world’s superpower for eternity. He’s basically a charlatan who tries to appease the American Ego by claiming that the decline of the USA is nothing to worry about. In contrast to Zeihan, Ian Bremmer is more of the old-school political scientist who studies geopolitics based on history, culture and ideology, similar to Arnold Toynbee’s approach to the study of world history based on his ‘Challenge and Response’ model, albeit at the meta-level of Civilizational Paradigms. Likewise, Samuel Huntington’s ‘Clash of Civilizations’ posits an impeding reorganization of the international order based on Civilizational Paradigms, which presciently predicted the US-led ‘War on Terror’ against Muslim countries.

    My geopolitical views are more of the old-school variety which considers culture, history and ideology to be the paramount factors in shaping the fate of human societies, rather than the overdetermined environmentalism of Zeihan and his ilk. A good counter-example to Zeihan’s thesis is Japan which lacks natural resources but has outperformed countries such as Argentina which is blessed with abundant natural resources. According to Zeihan, Africa should become the world’s superpower soon due to its future as the most populated region on this planet with a relatively young population while China’s aging and shrinking population would doom it to becoming a basket case.

    I am not at all convinced that Bush, Clinton, Obama and Biden act as their own men with agency, rather than as front-men of the US Deep State, carefully vetted and groomed into high office during their political careers. The only exception is Trump who incensed the US Deep State so much they are now making sure this kind of thing doesn’t ever happen again. The last time they had to whack the President of the USA in broad daylight.

  241. peterAUS says:

    https://www.rferl.org/a/russian-donbas-offensive-faltering-analysis/31832683.html

    ….why Russian commanders were moving more slowly and methodically.

    “They want basically to take their [best] shot at this, because the truth is after this offensive, the Russian military is a spent force when it comes to their potential for future offensives,” he said. “However this offensive plays out…they do not have the capacity for another major offensive in Ukraine.”…

    ….A decision on whether to commit more soldiers to the fight, which could entail declaring general mobilization….

  242. annamaria says:
    @Philip Owen

    Time to quote Biden, “You don’t have to be Jewish to be a Zionist.”

    By the way, it is hard to trust your claim of noble ancestry.

  243. @antibeast

    In my opinion Zeihan is a racist Sinophobe and IMBECILE. A sort of Gordon Chang for those who can’t abide compradores.

  244. @Philip Owen

    Fourteen generations of Imperial swine, undoubtedly.

  245. Anonymous[313] • Disclaimer says:
    @antibeast

    He’s basically a charlatan who tries to appease the American Ego by claiming that the decline of the USA is nothing to worry about.

    Well, we’re basically in agreement there. I’d say Ziehan “actor” rather than “charlatan”, and is assuaging “Audience Ego” rather than just “American Ego” [1], but it all comes down to much the same thing.

    I’m more interested in the strange assertions that Ziehan makes.

    [MORE]

    Consider Ziehan’s assertion that Russian Federation’s (RF) oil fields will be irreparably damaged by freezing oil in the permafrost region within about 2 months after it all Russia’s oil storage facilities fill up, and that this happened as well in c.a. 1990 and contributed to the demise of the USSR. Supposedly, this would reduce world oil production by about 5*10^6 (5 million) bbl/yr, and the world can’t replace this oil production (and collateral natural gas production) until Russian wells are re-drilled. I believe that it would also end the RF’s nitrogen fertilizer production, which uses natural gas feedstock.
    If true, that would change the entire reward matrix of the Russian Federation (RF) and European countries. Europe either allies with the RF very soon, or will lose low cost energy for perhaps a decade, and perhaps much longer if world trade drops off as a result of the current Ukraine/RF conflict.

    And then there is Ziehan’s “China has undercounted its population by 10^8 women, but zero men” assertion. As I understand it, this has been reported by only one Chinese academic paper, but, if correct, it would mean that many women who demographic calculations assumed would be having Chinese babies don’t exist, so the babies won’t exist. Chinese population reaches half its current count by 2050, and for the time being China will have considerable trouble maintaining even its economically useful capital stock.

    It’s the little “shock value” parts that make Ziehan worth considering. And, as you say, sometimes he misses entirely. The RF is clearly not able to hold the various gaps in it perimeter of natural defenses.

    I’m prone to pay attention to the “shock value” parts because I’ve seen so very many organizations that had completely abandoned their formal and public goals to pursue private goals. To give the flavor, I’ll cite two examples:
    1) John Logston, _The Decision to Go to the Moon_
    Quote from Amazon review captures what JL showed.
    “To John Logsdon, whose approach is that of a political scientist examining the influence of men and events on the decision-making process, the decision to land a man on the moon “before this decade is out” was wholly political . . . “. That is, NASA was showbiz, nothing more. Yes, NASA did send men to the Earth’s Moon, but the reason that the “Moon Hoax” persists is that the rest of NASA’s promises were never fulfilled. The basic Moon Hoax argument is “If the US really had space travel back in the 1960s, why have none of the promised benefits accrued?” Answer: the whole thing was showbiz; the promised benefits (while feasible in engineering terms) never appeared because the capital needed to make the benefits real was spent on maintaining urban areas (welfare, mostly)). NASA was funded just enough to keep up the showbiz front. That’s the real Moon Hoax.

    . . . And many other things confirming that showbiz was everything until these events:

    2) The Afghan War. The US has known for at least a decade that it was not seriously trying to win in Afghanistan, and apparently Pres. Biden was informed well ahead of time that US withdrawal would result in collapse. More showbiz, more waste of money and lives.

    So being told that a world oil production could drop by 5 million bbl if the Ukraine/RF war continues, and that China is not a US industrial rival and will be lucky to exist in 20 years, is just more of the same to me. The “Strawberry fields forever” line “Nothing is real” is all too true.

    I don’t know that any word Ziehan says is right, it’s just that the general theme of what he says is consistent with what I’ve seen, and quite possibly he wouldn’t be so popular if the assertions he makes could be easily disproved.

    Ian Bremmer [2] has the same worried and a quarter sick look that I have, but is a bit too conventional for me; he seems to be constrained by conventional media propaganda (no surprise, he works for Time). This propaganda has been inaccurate at best, and always propaganda, for my entire life. Bremmer’s treatment of the 6/1 confirmation disturbances [3] fits the media version, but is not what I’ve found out. Again, perhaps Bremmer is conforming to preserve his business and social status (as Zeihan tries to please Zeihan’s audiences). That’s all well and good, perfectly understandable, but I think the group Bremmer is conforming to was a bit too closely connected with the showbiz examples I give above for me to trust their version of reality.

    I dunno. The advantage of being low in agreeability means that heterodox beliefs don’t bother me, but it does not mean that the heterodox beliefs are correct. I’m sort of caught in the minimax with little reliable information trap. It is better to miss a real hazard and get killed (I’ve seen that too much), or to spend your lifetime in a metaphorical foxhole in the rain?

    Could it be that Dalrymple is correct? ( https://www.takimag.com/article/no-news-is-bad-news/ )

    1] “Who will Dominate Geopolitical System? | Peter Zeihan | India Economic Conclave 2021”; Remove “*” to get valid URL: https://www.you*tube.com/watch?v=XqWT8IzCQ8Y

    2] Search You Tube for “Ian Bremmer GZERO” to see various I. Bremmer videos.

    3]Remove “*” to get valid URL: https://youtu*be/urDEnNyOTqA?t=868 . Also, note that Bremmer’s forecast of tech companies’ influence failed; the companies turned out too be powerful only so long as they followed Federal policy.
    Bremmer doesn’t understand the abyssal ignorance of political figures that follow the “keep the expert on tap, not on top” rule. Command economies of the sort Bremmer wants to set up for the tech companies — I’ve seen them, and they get captured by their vendors salesmen, and their engineering freezes. Bremmer proposes essentially re-starting the “Office of Technology Assessment” of the 1970s, and doesn’t understand why that won’t give the results he envisions.

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  246. antibeast says:
    @Anonymous

    Peter Zeihan, Ian Bremmer, Thomas Friedman, Jeffrey Sachs, etc. comprise what Andrei Martyanov calls US ‘think-tanks’ who lack the technical expertise, military experience and professional knowledge of weapons systems, battlefield tactics and operational doctrines. According to Martyanov:

    Any “strategic” concept advanced by the Western political class, unless it is supported by a serious assessment of military power and its application, merits nothing more than the title of an exercise in sophistry and, as the last two decades demonstrated so dramatically, shouldn’t be taken seriously—be that Fukuyama’s “End of History,” neoconservative war-mongering, liberal interventionism, Thucydides Trap, or even Huntington’s most impressive effort. There is nothing scientific about those concepts without a deep understanding of the nature of military power.

    Much of what passes for strategic thinking in US ‘think-tanks’ amounts to mindless boosterism for American Exceptionalism which satiates the psychic need for the American population to feel-good about their themselves: ‘USA is Numba One!’ But such jingoistic delusions mask the underlying causes of America’s decline in military superiority (as detailed by Martyanov’s books), its hollowed-out economy, its decrepit physical infrastructure, its dysfunctional society and its debased public culture.

    If the USA is an Empire now, then Americans ‘create their own reality’ in the form of imperial delusions which feeds off the strategic thinking of US ‘think-tanks’. This process of narcissistic self-aggrandizement then forms a vicious cycle of jingoistic boosterism which induces imperial delusions requiring more confirmation bias by US ‘think-tanks’.

    Anyway, I want to end this discussion with the following quote from Edward Gibbon:

    The decline of Rome was the natural and inevitable effect of immoderate greatness. Prosperity ripened the principle of decay; the cause of the destruction multiplied with the extent of conquest; and, as soon as time or accident and removed the artificial supports, the stupendous fabric yielded to the pressure of its own weight. The story of the ruin is simple and obvious: and instead of inquiring why the Roman Empire was destroyed we should rather be surprised that it has subsisted for so long.

    Edward Gibbon (1906). “The History of the Decline & Fall of the Roman Empire”

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  247. Anonymous[327] • Disclaimer says:

    We seem to be generally in agreement.

    Recent works on the Roman Empire agree with and amplify Gibbon’s assessments. On the bright side, we now get to see if industrial society is as resilient as was Roman society.

    One last caution, though: most of the reports issued today are simply false. Even an honest “think tank” has very little real data to work with. The failure of the Russian Army against Ukrainian arms and what turns out to be US intel would be an example. Reality is just a bit too outré to be captured in reports, and without data, WAGS are about all that’s possible.

    As an OR type, I generally go with the unobvious implication of obvious events. That approach gives more rugged results. Simple regression to the reward matrix determined minimax strategy was all that was needed to say that the Ukraine/Russian Federation will end in retreat of the USA from Europe to AUKUS. It’s as obvious as the necessity of the retreat of the US to the First Island Chain after losing the Vietnam conflict, at least from the minimax reward matrix standpoint. Of course, that means I can’t make valid predictions very often.

    IMHO: Andrei Martyanov is reporting what the Democratic Party wants him to report, with reporting on 6/1 as the decisive indicator. I’d suggest not relying on his present output for anything important, although his past reports seem to be reasonably accurate. Just now the present ethnic dominance in the Democratic Party is being replaced by the dominance of yet another ethnic group (which may lead to fall from power of the Democratic party), and propaganda fills the air.

    So: Good exchange of posts, you’ve given me another source of information, and if you want any more info on reward matrices etc., just ask. Thanks!

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  249. Anonymous[319] • Disclaimer says:
    @GMC

    USA that has No F…n Idea who they are – anymore.

    You’re right on the money, but it’s really very simple, just not widely known. Here is who and what the Americans are, and how they got that way.

    Making sense of USA macro-history.

    History of the US is one of immigrant groups arriving, taking low paying jobs, and (in the second or third generation) taking over local politics, and eventually national politics. This is apparently due to the ambitions of the third generation, which is not lost in the “new society” that is not new to them, and who see politics as a living for themselves.
    The usual example in political science classes is Plunkett [1].

    There have been several massive waves: Original pioneers, 1600s: (English, mainly), slaves (Congo/West Africa, mainly), German (Original stock, plus 1850-1914 immigration) [2], Irish (1840-1942) [3], Polish (1860 -1990) [4], Ashkenazim (1880-1929) [5], Italians (1900-1942) [6], Blacks to the North (1910 – 1970) [7].
    In each wave, one of the migrant groups contested against previous waves and became politically dominant over the United States.

    [MORE]

    Usually the new wave was successful first locally, than nationally. Irish took over cities where they had the numbers to do so, inventing the “political machine” that Plunkett praises [1], and were displaced by the Ashkenazim migration (at its height, the Ashkenazim comprised over have the total number of migrants to the US, and Ashkenazim political agitation inspired various studies and immigration quotas from 1907 to 1924) [5].
    The original Anglo-Saxon / German coalition ruled the US until WW I, when it lost its German component, and the surviving Anglo-Saxon component was defeated in the 1930s by the New Deal, a coalition of Irish, Polish, Italian, and Ashkenazim immigrant groups and the Deep South, which was still a bit unhappy about its ruin during the 1860s. The Anglo-Saxon/German coalition had invented “Progressivism,” which originated the Executive Agency in its present form, and also the delegation of legislative authority to these agencies [5a]. The New Deal took over the Progressive institutions after FDR’s election, and made themselves electorally impervious by using the Progressive agencies to bureaucratize the ward leader welfare and enforcement functions of Tammany Hall.
    There followed a contest between the Irish, Polish, Italians, and Ashkenazim. This was settled by an Ashkenazim victory after WW II, when Ashkenazim experience in serving as “Servants of the State” proved decisive. The final rival of the Ashkenazim was the Irish political establishment, the “Internationalist Democrats”. President Kennedy purged the Italian and Ashkenazim organized criminals (I was working for such an Ashkenazim for a while at the time), and apparently both felt a bit resentful at that. After the Kennedys died, the Italians remained known as criminals and the Ashkenazim criminals were never mentioned again.

    The “Internationalist Democrats” vanished rather suddenly after the Kennedys also vanished rather suddenly. The resulting coalition used LBJ as a figurehead to pass the CRA, revise the national Immigration quotas, and Federalize welfare payments to the cities in which the Ashkenazim resided. The Ashkenazim then accused LBJ of having killed the Kennedys and continued work on building the “swamp” that Trump criticized so thoroughly.

    The Ashkenazim remained the dominant ethnic faction until the early 2000s. Jewish achievement became greatly reduced [6a], and may be attributed the typical “slackening off” of the third generation of any autocracy. The third generation knows that it has many desirable things, but does not know how these valuable things were originally acquired, or how they can be kept. Or perhaps it is a simple regression to studying/living the religion that has always been important to Ashkenazim. In any case, Ashkenazim are not running the Obama/Biden administration [6b]

    The “swamp” that Trump opposes appears to be rule by the Executive Branch of the American Federal Government controlled by the new immigrant group: The BIPOCS [7] (which is political language for the Blacks, right now Former President Obama). One can see the resemblance between US politics and those of the Congo after WW II and US / New Deal insistence on an “end to Colonialism” [8].

    The BIPOCS have not yet consolidated their power, and may not be able to do so in the 2024 and 2026 elections. However, we are now seeing the sort of transformation of national government that characterized the New Deal, in that the Patriot Act and Homeland Security, Republican supported, have been re-purposed and transformed. If successful, the transformation might succeed in cementing BIPOC power.

    If BIPOC power is consolidated, the US will, for a time, recapitulate the history of Africa from about 1960 on.

    Europeans, especially Ashkenazim immigrants, who are getting smug at this point should realize that the same sort of thing is happening in Europe, just with a different set of immigrants.

    **************************************************************************
    1] https://www.gutenberg.org/files/2810/2810-h/2810-h.htm
    2] https://germanculturaldiversity.weebly.com/german-immigration-to-the-united-states.html
    3] https://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com/Irish-immigration-to-America.html
    4]https://www.macaulay.cuny.edu/seminars/drabik09/articles/a/_/h/A_History_of_Polish_Immigration_to_New_York_c898.html
    5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_the_United_States
    5a] Theodore J. Lowi, The End of Liberalism: The Second Republic of the United States, 1969, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_End_of_Liberalism
    6] http://www.grandvoyageitaly.com/history/italian-americans-the-history-of-immigration-to-america
    6a] https://www.unz.com/runz/american-meritocracy-revisited/?highlight=%22The+Strange+Collapse+of+Jewish+Academic+Achievement%22#the-strange-collapse-of-jewish-academic-performance
    6b] The key event illustrating Ashkenazim loss of power is the classification of Ashkenazim as “White” under the 1964 Civil Rights Act, and their inclusion in the 10% cap on non BIPOC employees of production companies [6c]
    6c] https://www.takimag.com/article/hollywoods-jews-get-their-wandering-papers/
    To see how it all worked out, read:
    David Cole, “Hollywood Apartheid is Ready for Its Close-Up, Takis’s Magazine, 2022-05-03; https://www.takimag.com/article/hollywood-apartheid-is-ready-for-its-close-up/
    7] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Migration_(African_American); https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Society/2014/0316/Why-African-Americans-are-moving-back-to-the-South
    8] https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=career+of+Mobutu++Congo+

    c.f. the description of “the strenuous life of a Ward leader” in [1].

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