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There is one way in which regional war against Israel can be waged by the Arab states, Turkey, Iran, Russia, even China to which Israel and the US are vulnerable; against which they cannot achieve a quick and conclusive end to Hamas and prevent a multi-front, long and ruinous war for Israel; and against which the Israelis and Americans cannot fight by a firepower escalation against the major states when Israel’s survival chances are far lower than the US will risk.
This is proxy war by swarm.
The Houthis have been practising this on a sub-swarm scale with modest drone and missile salvos aimed at Israel’s southern coastline, Eilat port, and vessel movement up and down the Red Sea, as well as one Israeli-owned vessel capture on November 19.
This week Houthi missiles have also targeted a US Navy (USN) destroyer in the Gulf of Aden. “Nov. 27 Sanaa time, two ballistic missiles were fired from Houthi controlled areas in Yemen toward the general location of the USS MASON (DDG 87) and M/V CENTRAL PARK,” CENTCOM said. “The missiles landed in the Gulf of Aden approximately ten nautical miles from the ships.” This alleged Houthi attack followed an abortive takeover the day before, aimed at the Israeli-owned tanker Central Park. The ship attackers were Somali pirates, not Houthi forces, the USN has told the US press.
Against proxy war by swarm the US is currently monitoring Hezbollah along the Lebanon coast by long-range Northrop Grumman drones launched from the US airbase at Sigonella, Italy. At the same time, for safety sake, the USS Gerald Ford and its escorts have withdrawn more than a thousand kilometres westward, out of Hezbollah missile range. The Ford squadron is now reported to be under way in the central Ionian Sea continuing westward.
The USS Eisenhower and its escorts, however, are now moving into firing range of Iranian drone and missile attack, and also long-range Russian Kinzhals, as the USN force has passed through the Hormuz Strait sailing northward on what the Navy press statement says is its mission “to enter the waters of the Arabian [sic] Gulf as the Strike Group continues to support USCENTCOM missions [to] patrol the strategic waterway, located [sic] on the southeastern Arabian Peninsula, to ensure freedom of navigation.”
These operations of the US Navy (USN) and the Israel Defence Forces (IDF) indicate they are meant to deter Iran from using their long-range missiles against Israeli targets. They remain sitting ducks for long-range Russian attack.
But the USN-IDF combination is incapable of deterring, let alone defending against proxy swarms of either unarmed balloons or civilian motor yachts – unless they attack and destroy them. The futility of doing that with violence, as the IDF has done before, is the weapon the Palestinians hold – of winning the war by not losing, and in the process to demonstrate that Israel is a US-NATO protectorate for race hatred and genocide.
The impotence of the US Air Force was demonstrated in February of this year in its protracted engagement against a single high-altitude, unarmed “spy balloon” from China. Greek sources have reported speculation of a balloon swarm in support of Hamas; there has been no press reporting of this yet.
On November 21 the Turkish and Arab media reported that “approximately 1,000 international boats will gather in Turkiye on Wednesday [November 22] before heading toward Gaza to break the Israeli blockade…In an interview with Turkish news website, Haber7, Volkan Okcu, one of the organisers of the protest, indicated the boats will carry 4,500 people from 40 countries, ‘including anti-Zionist Jews’. Among the 1,000 vessels would be 313 boats filled with Russian activists, and 104 filled with Spanish activists, he said. Only 12 Turkish vessels will join the flotilla…The maritime convoy is set to make a first stop in Cyprus before continuing toward the Israeli port of Ashdod. Some participants in the flotilla will also reportedly take their spouses and children on board.” The same report has appeared here and here.
In an Israeli newspaper version of the same story, Okcu was quoted as saying: “The Zionist regime seems to have no chance to repeat the Mavi Marmara incident…The vessels sail under the flags of the US, UK, Luxembourg, Russia, Germany, Spain, Poland, and many other countries…The moment we enter Gaza’s territorial waters, [Israeli forces] can only search us or tow us to their ports, and impose fines, but will not be allowed by international law to raid the convoy in international waters, the way they assaulted the Mavi Marmara in 2010. [Israel] would pay a heavy price for attempting any crazy action against such a large international peace fleet.” That was published on the morning of November 21.
A week has now elapsed without the flotilla materialising in Turkey, and without a sign in Moscow that more than 1,200 Russians are aboard the reported 313 vessels with Gaza as their destination. Moscow sources refuse to discuss the operation openly amid signs that if there has been Russian government and military backing for the proxy swarm, there is now a Kremlin veto on the operation, at least for the time being.
The first news of the Gaza blockade-busting plan appeared in Tass, the state news agency, on November 16. The report was datelined Ankara, and came directly from “a source in the Turkish IHH humanitarian organization that has an office in the Gaza Strip”. According to Tass, “a number of humanitarian organizations and non-governmental organizations (NGOs) are preparing a major international campaign to deliver aid to the Gaza Strip and potentially breach the enclave’s blockade.”
IHH is a well-known Turkish Muslim charitable organisation with aid programmes around the world. It had been the co-sponsor of the June 2010 operation by six vessels with 663 participants to sail from Turkey and Cyprus to Gaza, aiming to break the Israeli naval blockade and deliver humanitarian supplies to the Palestinians. That operation resulted in the Israeli interception at sea – international waters, in fact — of one of the vessels, the Mavi Marmara, and the shooting deaths of nine of the passengers on board for allegedly resisting the Israeli commandos. The Israeli government later paid $20 million in compensation for their killings.
The compensation terms also allowed IHH to open an aid office in Gaza. It did not result in the lifting of the Israeli blockade of the sea approaches to Gaza.
MAP OF ISRAELI BLOCKADE OF GAZA COAST LINE
Source: https://upload.wikimedia.org/
See also UN report on Israeli interference with Gaza fishing rights.
According to the November 16 Tass report from its Ankara source, “’right now, efforts are underway for the preparation of a new humanitarian action, similar to the 2010 Gaza Freedom Flotilla. We [Turkey’s IHH] are not the only ones taking part in it, it will also involve other humanitarian organizations, activists and NGOs from around the world. It will potentially be the largest international action for Gaza that will involve representatives from both Europe and other countries of the world. We aim to breach the blockade and deliver the aid, but whether we will manage to breach the blockade will depend on the reality in the region,’ the source said.”
He noted that “consultations and negotiations with potential participants are currently underway on how and in what format this campaign will be implemented. Right now, negotiations are underway on what ships will take part in the action. It could be rescue ships, as well as private ships owned by organizations and activists. As for the participations, discussions are also underway. At the very least, the participants will include those who took part in the 2010 event. But now, their geography is even wider,” the source said.
Although Tass headlined the blockade-busting operation as an “international campaign”, the evidence in the report is that one-third of the vessels and participants is Russian. Source: https://tass.com/
For more detail on the 2010 Gaza flotilla operation and the lethal Israeli attack, read this.
Greek sources report a long history of vessel sabotage and assassinations by Israel aimed to stop international efforts to break the Israeli blockade by ship movement from Greece and Cyprus into Gaza. In this documentary report of the blockade-busting operation of August 2008, it is clear the unopposed landing on Gaza for the first time since the 1967 war was successful because the Greek Cypriot government of the time protected the vessel, its crew, and passengers at Limassol port, defying Tel Aviv and Washington.
August 28, 2008.
The lesson the IDF and the US Government learned from this success was to intensify the killing methods used against the Mavi Marmara in 2010 and to threaten the same against the “US boat to Gaza” operation in mid-2011 with the vessel, Audacity of Hope.
Three years later, when an American organised effort to run the Israeli gauntlet into Gaza from Greece was attempted during the calm seas of the summer of 2011, Ray McGovern has reported that the Israeli government warned the Obama Administration that the Americans would face the same military treatment as the Turks on board the Mavi Marmara the year before. The US then pressured the Greek prime minister at the time, George Papandreou, and his mother Margarita Papandreou, not to allow the Americans to sail from Greece to Gaza. The vessel was at first impounded in Piraeus port, and then when it was underway, it was stopped by the Greek Coast Guard at the limit of Greece’s territorial waters, returned to port, and impounded again.
Source: http://www.coldtype.net/
According to McGovern, a 27-year veteran of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), “before leaving the United States, I was cautioned by a source with access to very senior staffers at the National Security Council that not only does the White House plan to do absolutely nothing to protect our boat from Israeli attack or illegal boarding, but that White House officials ‘would be happy if something happened to us.’ They are, I am reliably told, ‘perfectly willing to have the cold corpses of activists shown on American TV.’”
After the Hamas breakout operation of October 7 and the start of the current war, there have been hints from Ankara of an aid operation by sea using amphibious vessels of the Turkish navy and army. At the same time the Greek Cypriot President, Nikos Christodoulides, has advertised a shipborne humanitarian corridor between Limassol and Gaza, secured by the French navy and special forces. Christodoulides made his proposal public at a European Union (EU) heads of government meeting on October 26. It has come to nothing.
Instead, Cyprus air bases have been a safe haven for US and NATO resupply lines of ammunition, weapons and military replacement parts into Israel, as well as for Israeli civilians and reservists fleeing the war.
The Cyprus and Israeli presidents meet on October 21, 2023 – “President Isaac Herzog this evening, (Saturday, 21 October 2023), met with President Nikos Christodoulides of Cyprus who came to make a visit of solidarity with the Israeli people following the barbaric terror attack by Hamas on October 7…Whatever we’re carrying out now, we are carrying out fully under the international humanitarian law, under the rules of international humanitarian law.”
The Israeli government has also said it would consider a “a maritime humanitarian corridor, with aid being sent to Cyprus that would be examined [in Cyprus] by Israeli officials. The aid would then be delivered to a small port in Gaza.”
A Cypriot presidential adviser, now retired, is equally skeptical of the public announcements of Christodoulides and the Turkish president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan. Of Erdogan the source said he “talks from both sides of his mouth, but with the political language of Islam when addressing Muslims. As for what he has actually done so far, he sent his navy to practice with live fire but [that was] between Turkey and Cyprus not in the Mediterranean. That’s typical of him. Except for Hamas, I do not think anyone wants the Turks to play a role. The Turks are too vulnerable economically to do anything. But even if that wasn’t the case, they cannot deal with powers stronger than they are. Theirs is bully behaviour and public rhetoric for domestic consumption. I do not think they are stronger than they were 2010-11. As for the appearance this month of the Gaza flotilla plan, absolutely not — no flotilla [for Erdogan].”
When the Tass report was followed by the detailed reports of the extent of the Russian participation in the proposal new flotilla, Moscow sources say that if there are as many Russian vessels and Russian activists participating in the new Turkish flotilla as have been announced – 323 vessels, at least 1,200 crew and participants — there must be Russian intelligence or military support for their involvement. According to one source, “it looks like an especially clever plan for proxies, unarmed humanitarians, to challenge the IDF and the Americans behind them.”
“But why have the Turks announced it so publicly in advance?”
“Of course,” the source added, “the Cyprus and Greek governments are now fully subservient to the Israelis, so the US and NATO are using the Greek and Cyprus bases to run arms and ammunition replenishment flights into Israel as the war continues. If the flotilla is to rendezvous in Cyprus and sail to Gaza from there, it will have to be at the port of Famagusta, in Turkish Cyprus. This would also be quite an advertisement by Erdogan of his claim to be the protector of the Muslims of Palestine – and of the cowardice of the Greeks and Cypriots in this war.”
Suspicion of the Turkish president’s duplicity is expressed by a US-NATO operations veteran. “Erdogan is doing almost exactly what the Turks did during the Iran-Iraq war. Taking advantage of the situation to turn a profit and make gains at someone else’s expense, while hiding under NATO’s skirt. This is Turkish state policy. The only difference I see now is how today’s Turk has picked up the Koran and is playing ‘Defender of the Umma’. This is how Erdogan cloaks Turkish expansionism, and his family’s graft while, again, keeping NATO as his shield. The Turk’s supposed support for the Palestinians, looking more tokenistic by the day, is as cynical as his annexation of Syrian territory to ‘protect’ the Arab population.”
Erdogan has spoken by telephone with President Vladimir Putin twice since October 7, both times on Putin’s initiative. On October 10, the Kremlin claims the two men “emphasised the need for an immediate ceasefire by both sides and resumption of negotiations and expressed mutual readiness to actively contribute to this end. The sides underscored that a long-term peaceful settlement of the Middle East crisis was only possible on the basis of the ”two-state“ formula approved by the UN Security Council, which provides for establishing an independent Palestinian state within the 1967 borders with East Jerusalem as its capital. The parties also touched upon separate issues of Russian-Turkish cooperation in various fields.”
Did they agree to cooperate in secret on a proxy blockade-busting operation into Gaza?
On October 24 Putin telephoned Erdogan again and according to the Kremlin communiqué, they “reviewed the active efforts undertaken by Russia at the UN Security Council, as well as the corresponding political and diplomatic steps taken by Turkiye to stop the bloodshed and ensure the unimpeded delivery of humanitarian aid to those in need. It was emphasised that Russia and Turkiye have practically overlapping positions, focused on implementing the well-known two-state solution, which provides for the creation of an independent Palestine coexisting with Israel in peace and security. In addition, issues related to the accelerating pace of mutually beneficial bilateral cooperation in various fields were touched upon.”
In parallel, according to the record of Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov’s meetings and communications, there is no sign that Lavrov discussed with his Turkish counterparts a joint Russian-Turkish seaborne aid corridor to Gaza. Instead, the Russian ministry has emphasised the role of the Arab states and Iran “in resolving the region’s issues. Abandoning confrontational rhetoric and the desire for a political-diplomatic settlement of disagreements in the preceding period resulted in the stabilisation of relations between Saudi Arabia and Iran, the resumption of Syria’s participation in the League of Arab States and a step-by-step building of a dialogue between Damascus and Ankara. Third parties must not be allowed to exploit the unraveling Palestinian-Israeli confrontation to break these positive trends and plunge the region into chaos. The involvement and unity of the states in this region along with the political will of the Palestinians and the Israelis to hold talks on a package of issues for a final status is a key condition for restarting a comprehensive peace process in the Middle East.” That was on November 6.
From the start of the Gaza war, Russian public opinion has been overwhelmingly favourable towards the Palestinians and hostile to Israel, but the Foreign Ministry and Kremlin have tried to dampen public enthusiasm. Instead, the Russian state propaganda organs have been running Israeli commentaries hostile to Hamas “terrorism”, and focusing on release of Palestinians and Israelis with dual Russian citizenship through the Rafah checkpoint in southern Gaza. On November 22, Putin asked for a report on what is happening to the “910 people [who] asked for help in evacuating, including 639 Russian citizens and 271 Palestinians who are their family members. The Russian Emergencies Ministry aviation division has received no evacuation applications from citizens of other states. To date, 484 citizens of the Russian Federation and 87 non-Russian citizens who are their family members have crossed the Rafah checkpoint. Six Emergencies Ministry flights have transported 553 people, including 259 children, to Domodedovo Airport, while 18 people are still in a hotel in Cairo, waiting to be evacuated. Upon arrival in Russia, nine people, including six children, were sent to medical institutions. Two of them, including one child, were diagnosed with COVID.”
“After completing all the necessary procedures, 116 people, including 44 children, left the airport to reach their places of residence on their own. The rest were taken to temporary accommodation centres in the Moscow and Kaluga regions. Work is underway to arrange accommodation for these people in other regions of Russia. To date, there are 313 people staying in these centres, including 161 children.” The Russian television and social media have not allowed these evacuees to broadcast their eye-witness accounts of Israeli attacks.
Russian military and intelligence sources either claim not to have heard about the Turkish plan for the Gaza flotilla, or they refuse to respond to questions. The Moscow sources don’t doubt that the size of the reported Russian participation is so large as to represent a planned proxy operation, but they are skeptical that after several weeks of difficult negotiations to rescue almost a thousand Russians under Israeli attack in Gaza, the Kremlin would risk many more Russians on board the flotilla if the IDF repeats its Mavi Marmara attack.
“I can’t see Putin letting them be killed”, a Moscow source comments, “as the Turks were in the 2010 Gaza Flotilla, or the crew of the USS Liberty in 1967. Yes, in a swarm of a thousand vessels the IDF would be unable to repeat a shipboarding commando operation. But the Israelis might mine the seas in front of the flotilla, or strafe the vessels from the air. Committing the small but potent Russian navy squadron at Tartous to covering the flotilla would defeat the proxy cover story.”
Source: https://www.itamilradar.com/ (November 23).
Both the US and Russian navies appear to be withdrawing from the possibility of close encounters in the Eastern Mediterranean; the USS Gerald Ford is currently in a position between Italy and Greece. The U.S. 6th Fleet command ship USS Mount Whitney remains in the Eastern Mediterranean along with French and British Navy warships, but exactly where has been concealed since the Mount Whitney left the Italian port of Gaeta in mid-October. As of November 23, the Russian fleet at Tartous consist s of a frigate, two corvettes, an intelligence vessel, oiler and repair barge.
Current location of the USS Gerald Ford — source: https://www.itamilradar.com/
If the Americans suspected the Russians of preparing to cover the movement of the new aid flotilla into Gaza, sources believe the fleets would be moving toward each other and the waters between Famagusta and Gaza. There’s no sign of this at present. There is no speculation of this in the Russian military blogs following the war in Gaza, such as Rybar and Colonel Cassad.
“In theory,” comments a US source, the Turkish plan is “the opening of another front. The organisers are certainly aware of of the unprecedented naval presence in the area. So the vessel swarm is upping the ante. But only if Erdogan and Putin decide to let it happen.”
A Moscow source concedes “this is a very fluid situation changing by the hour or the minute. It’s impossible to differentiate statements from intentions, or actions from counter-actions. If the major power are coordinating, then they are coordinating not getting involved right now. I just do not see the Turks, Indians, Chinese or Russians getting into any posture in the Middle East which might seem confrontational. Especially when the Saudis and Emiratis are not doing it, the Chinese and the Russians won’t. Iranian restraint speaks more than anything else.
I also believe this is the right approach, especially if Hamas can drag the war on for another 90 days. The condition of the released hostages tells that Hamas is well-entrenched. They have a lot more fight in them. A multi-day ceasefire might give them the long war which Netanyahu wants but Biden does not. However, I see no one coming to fight with them.”
“Let us say a Turkish aid flotilla materialises and gets to the new port and marina the Turks have built in North Cyprus. There are several problems with that. Small craft, especially leisure yachts and motor boats cannot ply the Eastern Med during the storm weather from December until April. Moreover, if Hamas is running the current ceasefire, it does not want Erdogan to give a reason for Israel to break it. A flotilla is therefore just PR at this stage.”
“The Gaza genocide will pave the way to something bigger, but later.”
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Apparently white people are supposed to care more about some inter-semitic conflict between mongrels (Jews/Arabs) in Israel, than with our own nations being governed by Jews & invaded/occupied by millions of nonwhite scum.
Mixed message take away from this article. On the one hand, only a large convoy of small vessels could break the Israeli blockade and reach the shores of Gaza, but this convoy is unlikely to materialize so it’s like QAnon propaganda that people keep hoping in vain for someone to do something
The so called “jews” are not Semites. You see it on their skin color, but Sunday school have make you believe that Semites are white. The KHAZARS suicide example for white people hang in every church, white…its simply a lie from psychopaths which wanted to break white peoples spirit.
Those cannibals rule every white concentration camp, they call it “Country’s”, but it is concentration camps, where the population have become feed cattle.
When you are controlled by lies about skin color, and lies about Newtons laws, you are not human any more.
Intentionally running Hamas resupply vessels into a combat zone is quite different than the peace time Mavi Marmara incident.
Is Erdogan mad or bluffing? His track record points to the latter. He is not going to let surface combatants sail from Türkiye to attack Israel. The political fallout from such an insane act would further destabilize his regime, which already has ongoing issues in Northern Syria.
PEACE 😇
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Zionism is a dialectic.
Zionism is: 1) the denial of nationalism for everyone except Israel. 2) Exterminating the Palestinians. 3) Killing, ruining and deracinating anyone else pointing out 1,2,3 at the hands of the diasporan jews.
What is the legal authority that Israel cites on that maritime exclusion zone?
During times of war, there is a limited legal basis for establishing a maritime blockade in international waters. The present blockade began when Hamas won the elections in 2006 and was fully implemented three years later. The International Committee of the Red Cross finds that it is illegal because it inflicts disproportionate harm on the civilian population and prevents reconstruction of the economy.
https://casebook.icrc.org/case-study/israel-blockade-gaza-and-flotilla-incident
So Israel struck first. Hamas was under siege.
Three Jews killed in Jerusalem and Netanyahu says gunmens houses will be sealed up and destroyed, Juxtapose this with the killing of Palestinians in the West bank and you can see why the doomsday cult of Israel has to be destroyed.
Americans are the biggest enablers of this Palistinian genocide by allowing big supporters of Israel, both financially and through political influence, to live among them and claim American citizenship as a “flag of convenience” at will.
If these so called Americans bat for another team then withdraw their citizenship and stop allowing the benefits they derive from this relationship, that benefit of citizenship should only ever go to committed citizens.
i don’t think putin would participate, as the russian navy would be ignored and the israelis would just seize the private vessels and their cargo. it would be easier to work a deal with the egyptians, to bring in humanitarian supplies through the rafah crossing in russian military vehicles. the israelis might attack the u.s. navy with full impunity but if they attack russian personnel they will find out what saakashvili found out.
truth be told it would be easier for the russians to just let the u.s. and israel continue to destroy themselves in the eyes of the world, as they are more that confirming, the fact that they are war criminals of the highest magnitude. but vvp has called it a sacred duty of the russian federation to protect gaza and unlike western leaders and when he speaks he means what he says.
the zioneocon empire is doomed, as the deranged former hegemon has now turned to devouring it’s vassals, like cronus devouring his children. hopefully vvp can play the role of zeus and release his siblings to fulfill their true destiny, ending the day and age of these repulsive titans.
another Mare’s Nest.
Personally, Haxo is getting bore’d with the CF. He wants to see what new horrors, if any, the Izrahellions can come up w for the Gaza War, Part deux.
That should go double for any politician who expresses “support” for a foreign country, israel or any other country.
Brian Mast (R) Fla, , the Florida congressman who wore an IDF military uniform should be stripped of his political position and U. S. citizenship and should be immediately deported to israel. His advocacy for israel is TREASON.
so it’s like QAnon propaganda that people keep hoping in vain …
Groan. Awful to remember that psyop, and so many people getting stuck in the endless deferral.
I agree with you about this article. It is all about what would be happening, except that it is not happening … ok …
I am close friends with a Turkish family. Rank and file Turks are far more worried about inflation and the plummeting value of the lira than more problems between Arabs and Jews- those ancient enemies.
Ron Unz is running wall to wall coverage of this, and the readers here eat it up- but most of the world is moving on to their own problems- imagine that.
My elderly mother was in the hospital for 3 days and the bill was $32,000. No surgery. 10K a day. Whites are being beaten in jails, schools and in the streets by blacks. Drug stores have to lock up common supplies because of blacks and browns robbing them. 9 million illegal alien invaders have crossed into this country where they receive cradle to grave financial support. Yet, the working class must pay, on average, $1800 for a one bedroom apartment, and the government then takes 30-40% of their paychecks.
And the response of most people, organizations and new organizations in America?
Crickets.
Sorry, Author DoomPr0ns too much.
Reaching for Material? Armchair Amateur Hour here.
It “may” be feasible; but not in this Day and Age.
The Military Scenarios outside Israel are stable; because the Hegemony placed their “Armed Chess Pieces” across the Region.
I’m all for it — but I’m not going.
Israel will sink the boats. That’ll be the end for her — but also for a lot of the people on the boats.
It’s coming close to Child Sacrifice.
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The Cyrpriots don’t need to be subservient to Israel, only the UK, that’s who owns and operates (Including as essentially sovereign territory) those military bases. Cyprus has no say in how they operate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akrotiri_and_Dhekelia
And, yeah, the US bases in Turkey are fully a part of the US deployments in the Middle East in preparation for a regional war and to resupply Israel with weapons just like the US bases in Greece. The scale of stuff being sent through Cyprus is simply larger because of geographic and political ease. (The bases are British sovereign territory don’t even need to pay lip service, there is also the con of having some of these flights operate directly from Lebanon to Israel is violation of Lebanese laws by supposedly “landing” at the British bases in Cyprus but really just pretending to)
https://www.declassifieduk.org/u-s-military-is-secretly-supplying-weapons-to-israel-using-uk-base-on-cyprus
Better political resistance to the bases might have emerged if the Turks weren’t such genocidal maniacs towards the Greeks and hadn’t already ethnically cleansed much of the island.
They need to paint USS Liberty on the sides of all the Humanitarian Ships. And in Really Big Letters !
Stop bullshitting you Turks and unleash the thousand boat flotilla! We at TUR don’t want to be cheering on a non-existent operation that doesn’t materialise. It is well past 22 November.
On the other hand, I hear that Israel is most willing to allow in European NGO boats to pick up Palestinian refugees and ship them to Europe – the more the merrier! They could even start issuing European identity cards and passports and US green cards on board together with bank cards loaded with euros and dollars. Jews will even contribute donations to the bank accounts of these poor refugees. Onward to the West!
If Turkey being a NATO member state were to break the ILEGAL blockade by Israeli of the Gaza Strip would that not invoke Art 5 of the NATO charter which states that when one member state is attacked it is considered an attack on all its members. Interesting question.
You got off cheap. 18 hours @ a Hospital Corp of America facility cost me >US$100,000 in 2014. No serious injury, no wounds, no broken bones, no surgery. $34,000 to roll me through the front door unconscious, following a minor auto accident. 5x CT scans @ $10,000 each, all based on fraudulent justification (“neck pain,” etc.) lies which directly contradicted notes of attending physician.
Lesson: when you own your very own U.S. Senator, many things become possible.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HCA_Healthcare
Rick Scott received $300, 000, 000 severance pay from HCA, and went on to become governor of Florida. Not bad for a disgraced criminal.
Q: Is the U.S. a decadent, corrupt and dying society?
A: Do bears sleep in the woods?
Yes, homeless Americans are living on the street and begging, there are huge lines of people waiting for free food charity in front of churches, roads and infrastructure are in a bad shape with few repairs but all the money is spent supporting the Ukraine and Israel. Seems that Americans don’t care as much about their own people and their own problems, and are instead busy daily demonstrating in support of Israel or Palestine.
Israel does not care one iota about international law or perceptions. They are going to continue to do whatever they please to do and the hell with what anyone thinks about it.
Israel has complete control of the United States government and our Uncle Stupid government dares not follow Israeli orders or commands.
The general population of the United States however every day sours against Israeli domination and control; so the longer this blatant genocide continues the worse it will get for both the Israeli and United States governments!
Indeed. And to the U.S. as well.
Let the Palestinian refugees tell their story.
Turkey being a NATO member state were to [attempt to] break the ILLEGAL blockade [and be attacked] by Israel would that not invoke Art 5 of the NATO charter which states that when one member state is attacked it is considered an attack on all its members.
Extremely so.
Pacifists move very carefully, because they know that if conditions are favorable to them, the West can invent any incident and the massacre would begin for countries that do not have nuclear weapons.
After this process, all politicians know that they have finished their careers and would not mind a massacre as a farewell.
It’s nice to think the Jews won’t do this or can’t do that because of international law.
But since when have Jews EVER acted according to international law?
If this flotilla ever appears I wish them luck, but seriously, I see the Jews turning them into another USS Liberty while flying American made jets. Just more toy boats for zionist target practice.
Moscow – Tel Aviv – New York
“Russia” – with a Jewish government and exclusiv Jewish business monopoly incl. a Jewess as lord of the till – will never ever attack Israhell containing two million Russian passport holders.
Every time Israhell purposely kills Russian soldiers Russia agrees it was an accident.
Russia could force Israhell to surrender Jewkraine within 24 hours.
“Russia” prefers to have hundreth of thousands of slavs killed and their families destroyed and 30 million slavs aka Ukrainians uprooted.
Spot on; with the start of Nakba 2.0 container housing etc. is here feverishly put into place.
(Why did those two million Palestinians of Gaza not follow in the trail of Hamas into Israel?)
Those are fringe people…outliers. Unless someone is a mentally ill liberal, the rank and file do not want to support Israel or Ukraine with one dollar.
And I see now…why hardliners here hate Israel and Jews- they pull us into war!
I wonder if we expelled all the Jews, Indians, blacks and their goons- would Dick Cheney types still meddle in world affairs? What do you think?
Kiev has a Jew King.
All else is beside the point. Remove him and the war ends.
{ would that not invoke Art 5 of the NATO charter which states that when one member state is attacked it is considered an attack on all its members.}
No.
If you read the text of Article 5, you’ll see that there NO obligation to assist militarily: each member can decide on their own what kind of assistance to provide, if any.
Furthermore, if a NATO members initiates something, they cannot expect other members to assist them in their adventure.
When Turkey was attacking Syria, and Syrians were defending themselves (…Turk troops killed), Turkey requested assistance from NATO: Turks were told to go pound sand. “You started it, you are on your own”.
Finally, NATO is a tool/attack dog of US: NATO does what US tells it to do.
Do you think US/NATO would attack Israel?
US/NATO will attacks Turks — if necessary — to protect Israel.
Hegelian Dialectics: The Devil’s Winning Tool
Gawds Chozen people work By Way of Deception! After they are done with Palestine they will be coming for you. Moloch wants your children’s blood in order to usher in the Anti-Christ Dajjal, who will rule the world from Jerusalem.

This cover page from 2012 Economist Magazine clearly shows Hamas on hand gliders with Satanyahoo and the word “wrath” in the middle. These Satanic Criminal Psychopath tell us what they will be doing to the Goyim. These are the same people behind 911 Terror and all other false flag events in modern history. Time to expose these Criminal Sattanist.
https://www.economist.com/content/rough-guide-hell
When I first started reading, I thought it was an awesome idea, and was getting a little too happy. Then I keep reading, only to find out that Turkey has already punked out, Putin doesn’t have the guts to support this, and Greece is exactly the toady of the US and Israel I thought they were.
Don’t hold your breath waiting for this exercise to actually happen. Kikes will win again, with copious amounts of US machinations and material aiding them.
The Zionists have gone too far – they are destroying their own cause. Even the Pope has told them that their bombing of Gaza is an act of terror. I know that Biden and Establishment have also gone too far in their defense of Zionism and its blood thirsty need for revenge – always revenge. Biden figured that his pro-Israeli stance would have brought in a lot of campaign donations, but it has only shown him to be a low-integrity hack.
But the biggest card in the deck has yet to be dealt – China and its insistence that a two state solution must be tried first before any play is made on an Arab-free governance of occupied Palestine.
And, when that card gets dealt, the outlines of true justice for the Palestinians will be illuminated enough so that even a blind jerk like Biden will see the light.
If attacked By Russia…
The fact that they own every government on Earth and will simply kill you if you stand in their way. That’s what law means.
“Surface combatants”? What the hell you talking about? No visible intentions along that line from any naval power. Let the Zhids stew in their own juices…it’s called self-fuckery.
“Lawfare” is off topic…a distraction from the reality that war is war is war. This war is one for the minds and hearts of humankind…and the occupiers of Palestine are happily stinking up the joint with rotten egg all over their faces.
Let’s take that one step further. ALL dual citizens should be confronted with a choice: Either move their sorry asses to their “promised land” tout de suite, OR be obliged to remove their corpuses to the furthest extremity of the Aleutian Islands.
Your tribe put itself on a high pedestal while trumpeting about being the “most victimized, most moral, and most intelligent.” And now the whole world see that the tribe has been trumpeting the Lies. The Shoah business was busy spreading, forcefully and criminally, the profitable lies to ensure the perpetuation of the Tribe’s privileges.
The horrific truth about the Tribe is its psychopathic amorality that includes the lack of mercy and self-reflection. The fraudulent pedestal of the “most victimized, most moral, and most intelligent” is crumbling upon the Tribe.
Boats, zzzz.
What would hit the spot is a coordinated dump of 30 year Treasuries by Saudi/China/UAE/Qatar. Not everything, just enough to make the US banking system insolvent for a while. Boost the price of that illegal aid to Izzie fanatics.
IF.
Russia is not going to get militarily involved in the Hamas-Israel fight.
Russia still has at least a year of war to wrap up Ukraine.
Russia understands that deperate NATO may do something stupid in Ukraine, and then
all bets are off. That is why Russia is still adding to troop numbers, and creating new units: ready for whatever insanity NATO might dream up.
Russia will do whatever it can for Syria, and that’s about it.
Putin & Co have been VERY careful not to overextend Russia’s military.
Any chance of a Chinese flotilla?
If its any consolation the hebe will hang right next to the mohammadan come the day of the rope.
The Zionist experiment is about to be over. Zionism is a 19th century idea which is not cutting it in the 21st century. Time to move on.
Years ago, one of the first books I read about conspiracy theory was “Blank Spots on the Map” by Trevor Paglen: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/5956744-blank-spots-on-the-map
This book and its’ premise has stuck with me to this very day – that being, you can see a rough outline by what they won’t show you. In this case you can see which countries are hopelessly jew controlled by what they allow but certainly don’t celebrate. The Cypriots don’t sound like cowards to me, just people who are being threatened with Democracy. It’s even more interesting to see how this is playing out in the Muslim world, especially with Egypt. Egypt has been given the offer they can’t refuse in the form of – “it’d be a shame if you had to ground your F-16 fleet, or couldn’t find any more replacement parts.”
I’m not a Pollyanna, but I’m a bit stunned to see how integral death threats, bribes, and blackmail are to this current civilization. No one “supports Israel,” they just don’t want to have their lives ruined by jews. Of which I can at least admit that jews are perfectly willing to do to their own as much as anyone else. I don’t think this flotilla will do much, but, each day the facade of jew invincibility of destroying people’s lives is eroding. Moving forward I can even understand why El Cid was friendly with the Umayyids – his own people were worse. Palestinians aren’t my friends, but they aren’t my enemies. Personally, I wouldn’t even have a problem with the Muslim world at large if they didn’t send the dregs of their society to terrorize mine. I digress…
The day of reckoning is coming Israel, keep on playing Hava Nagilla on the Titanic, the fucker is sinking.
If White people would have just stayed put within their own borders none of this White imperialism and colonialism would have had all the unintended consequences.
For five centuries, the White people haven’t learned that as they dealt with the Jewish problem in Europe, the Jews are paying it back, by flooding Europe with the non-white scum of other lands. The Jews are diluting your pure whiteness. What does our Whitness mean? We are superior as a killing machine? Yet, our kids are lost, our women are unruly and men are disrespected and considered worthless. Our economies have been extracted and crippled by debt.
You brought up Whiteness, is this what you are seeing? It is over, once the decline begins it will not reverse until the nihilism of each one of us is reversed.
Do you know who controls and publishes the Bible? If you did, then you’d understand why America is so highly pro Israel.
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That’s a nice idea, and worth implementing, but not sufficient.
Unfortunately the US has something like 60-100 million ZioXristians. I’ve never noticed these people to be amenable to reason or evidence, nor open to re-evaluating their views. Yes, they’re perhaps preferable to Woketards, but that’s saying very little.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangelicalism_in_the_United_States#Demographics
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Couldn’t Egypt just open its borders, let out the Palestinians and fight the Israelis? Seems just as realistic a scenario as the one envisioned.
That’s good, but did you really just figure this out?
Who got us into the iraq war– A List of prominent Jewish Neocons
http://hugequestions.com/Eric/TFC/FromOthers/list-of-neocons-for-Iraq-war.htm
NicoX is an obvious Jewish troll.
To be fair wading into the Palestine v Jew war is the same issue as those outrageous medical bills. Who do you really think runs that insurance firm and hospital?
In the US, Whites still make appeals to “the Constitution” as they are beaten and robbed and raped and killed. Few Whites know – or would even believe if they were bluntly told so – that Aryans designed the mechanisms of the federal government for their fellow Aryans. None of the Founders believed their government was applicable or enforceable to any people besides their own posterity.
King Herod Agrippa.
I recently saw Anthony Quinn’s The Messenger. Odd film in several respects. Would have been useful to have that remade somehow.
In Mecca there’s a family squabble about control of the Kaaba shrine, which looks a bit like an art fair booth in Miami or New York. Or even a Sukkot shack in Israel. One of the nephews appears to take Jewish monotheism seriously. He appears to be familiar with Christ. That’s Mohammad. The rest of the Arab merchant family drive him and 70-80 of his followers away. The main complaint the Muslim Bros have is pagan child sacrifice of infant Daughters among Arabs and imposed arranged marriages.
While we might like to have our fun about Mohammad marrying a very young girl, it would appear that snuffing out female infants was the norm for the pagan Arabian peninsular Arabs. He was a small step up. So marrying them off quickly was probably a humane enough way to ameliorate the female infanticide with a Dowery system. As they widely Christianised, before Muhammad appears, obviously Christianity had real appeal for good reason it appealed to the women who had daughters. The various tribes of Arabia, concerned about such abuses were eventually going to create something like Islam if not that they’d convert piecemeal to Christianity. The infection point concerning Muhammad in the traditional story is when his hitherto pacifist followers encountered Jewish tribes controlling Medina at the time. Then he sort of militarises the following as if from nowhere and suddenly starts to plan the conquest of Byzantium. Suddenly they become a military juggernaut once they blend with 600 or so Jewish warbrides in Medina.
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The movie downplays Mohammad’s first encounter with Jews and the merging of his band with the Jew-wives to form this new militant expansionist Islam. But it’s hinted at. Hard not to conclude that Islam in this phase was a Jew vehicle to get back into the then Christian controlled Levant. And btw Muhammad had a Jew Wife according to the stories.
I won’t hold my breath. Looks like a great way to wipe out a flotilla of fuckheadz. Be my guest!
@Avery
Although Putin and the Russian military differ sharply over operations in Syria and especially over Israeli attacks there, ever since Israeli jets quite deliberately shot down a Russian reconnaissance plane (an IL-28?) killing all 14 crew. Putin attempted to sweep the whole thing under the carpet (unfortunate! accident!) but the MoD came out angrily saying they reserve the rights to retaliate when appropriate. Mr Shoigu hopped from foot to foot. Russia is still biding its time, but there’s no question where the majority of Russian sympathy lies.
Unlike the Palestinians (the niggers of the Middle East), the Egyptians learned to stop being the saps who fought Israel while the Muzzies sat on their fat overfed asses from Mecca to India. Why let all that filth back into Sinai?!
Well the truce is over and the genocide will go on. Here in the U.S.A. violence against the Muslims and the Jews is picking up steam.
It is not going to take very much to bring on World War III.
Nov 30, 2023 Gaza’s unprecedented scale of destruction from Israeli bombardment, explained
Gaza’s unprecedented scale of destruction from Israeli bombardment, explained.
Ok, so Woke-Choke-on-my-cock actually IS retarded.
Dialectic refers to two competing ideas, not three you fucking moron.
Reminds me of an old joke:
There are three kinds of people in the world–those who can count, and those who can’t.
No one, in their right mind, is going to attempt to go through the Israeli blockade because Israeli’s would sink those boats no matter whose flags were on them.
Israel has made this an all or nothing situation. You can declare war on Israel and blow it up with nuclear weapons or you can stay on the sidelines and do absolutely nothing!
the whole planet is being menaced by the same fiend = ZOG
and has been since 1914, when a treasonous president handed that fiend the keys to the U.S. Treasury
since then there have been relentless wars to slaughter innocents, in an eternal march to sate the insatiable hatred of ZOG.
Today, the people most in ZOG’s crosshairs for genocide are the Palestinians. But only the worst kind of imbecile wouldn’t know that once the Palestinians are crushed, ZOG is coming for you too.
As these pitiable and persistent, (heroic, if you ask me), Palestinians, are (unlike most white people, who lick ZOG’s feet), fighting, they remind me of that strong and proud teenage Palestinian girl, Ayat al-Akhras – who gave her young life to fight ZOG
I can’t find it now, but she made a powerful video before she died, shaming the Arab leaders for making nice with ZOG, and leaving it to a teenage girl to do the fighting and sacrificing.
That’s how I see the Western world, much like Ayat al-Akhras saw the Arab leaders. Too comfortable and cowardly to take on ZOG, and willing to see children be slaughtered, because it isn’t their children, (or more to the point, them) who are being slaughtered at the moment.
As long as the fiend isn’t attacking them directly, (at least for the moment), then who cares how many Arab children are blown to bits, when it isn’t us white people, (yet). Huh?
You simply cannot be this stupid.
As if those things are mutually exclusive.
Nice try, you retarded fucking cunt.
Zionists are now genocidal maniacs, but Hamas is scum too.
Surely, Hamas knew Israel would retaliate with extreme measures, and the brunt of the mayhem would fall on the ordinary Palestinian civilians, largely women and children(while Hamas hunker in the bunker).
History favors the Palestinian side, but Hamas is shit for strategy, morally and politically. Due to this stunt, Israel may gobble up ALL of Gaza.
I suppose there is a silver lining. The black swan event of the world standing up to Zion in words and on the streets. It certainly raised awareness.
I generally tend to hold the people responsible for the government they have. Now if the people are living under a despotic totalitarian tyrannic dictatorship, I can understand that there couldn’t be much they could do to change their government and its policies. But if the people live in a democratic and supposedly free society then who should we blame? If they don’t like their government’s policies they could do something about it. I know it’s simpler to say than do it, but ultimately they get the government they deserve. No?
What do you expect? Government lovers be morons.
At best.
Choke the woke?
Whom are you going to choke in all the mutations? Yourself?
Kiev has a Jewish government, local business boys melking & killing the goys, on the leash of the Rockefeller-Rothschild-syndicate & hyena. Gangstar Zionlendski is as much a puppet and window dresser as senile crook Biden. The real decisions are made by the unsatiable money entities & cons.
You are their servant stinking you are doing good for your tribe, which you actually fail.
Agree with you completely. Good comment
I’d leave that up to the Palestinians to decide.
If they think Hamas is scum, for doing what they all know would lead to harsh reprisals, then so be it, but then perhaps they too are willing to accept the costs, even the deaths, because living they they’re forced to, is unacceptable.
For myself, I think Hamas has delivered a blow for us all, against the fiend that menaces us all.
ZOG is responsible for hundreds of thousands of dead Ukrainians and Russians.
ZOG is responsible for millions of dead Iraqis and Yemenis and Afghans and Syrians so many others. Tens of thousands of Europeans and Americans have been slaughtered or raped by ZOG’s orcs over the decades, and that is only increasing exponentially.
I see Oct, 7th much like Putin’s border war with Ukraine.
Both Hamas and Russia tried to reason with ZOG, and let ZOG know that desecrating the Al-Aqsa Mosque, and pushing ((NATO)) onto Russia’s borders, were unacceptable, (respectively), and so war was a result.
The Russian people have lost thousands of Russians in that war, but do you see them demanding the head of Putin on a platter? Or is he seen as their champion?
It’s the same with Hamas.
It isn’t for nothing that I call ZOG a fiend.
It can not be reasoned with. A force of evil so malevolent, that it will never stop until all of its enemies, (all non-Jews) are genocided or enslaved.
Hamas did the only thing they could do, and that was a brash and heroic act of selfless love for their people. Now it’s up to the rest of us, to see if we’re going to sit on our hands, as our governments and treasonous politicians allow this fiend a freehand and blank check to butcher children in our name.
What happens now, is going to be on us, on every nation who continues to give support to Israel, as it engages in a modern day Holocaust, right in front of everyone’s eyes.
Hamas forced us all out of our comfy and cowardly aloofness from the serial crimes and atrocities our governments have been funding and providing support for.
God speed to them, and to the Palestinian people. They’ve suffered enough, for the cowardice and corruption of the Western and Arab world.
The two are obviously connected.
Images of the Prophet Muhammad are forbidden in Islam. So the main character in the movie The Message (Originally titled Mohammad, Messenger of God) is never shown. “Not only do you not see Muhammad, you never even see his shadow. The prophet’s presence is suggested when other characters speak to the camera directly, as if to a vision of revelation represented. This is done with a strange sounding musical keyboard instrument that resonates on a gong played in quarter tones to represent his presence. The soundtrack was recorded outside London by Sound engineer Erick Tomlinson at ? (Sorry, I forgot the studios name as I was there while the soundtrack was being recorded, it’ll come to me later. )
They were expecting a hostage exchange. Not the equivalent of a nuke being dropped on their metropolis.
Her story would make an interesting film, but I doubt (((Hollywood))) would distribute it or allow it to be streamed on any of their online streaming platforms.
After Oct7, I could be wrong, maybe the Zionist dome will be crushed and the truth be told.
Same with taxes not paid to the ‘king’, refuse to pay and they eventually kill you.
‘King’ in context being local town or city, state or federal, maybe a real king, eventually they make a painful example of you as a deterrence to others.
you apparently think there still exists an “America” that our Jew-owned political class is being “treasonous toward”. No such polity or place exists anymore.
the former “America” is now and has been for many years a borderless province in a Zionist globohomo Imperium….along with all the other former White nations.
“not going to take very much to bring on WW3”
actually, the only way WW3 can come out of this is if Babyface Tsar stops sucking Zionist dick. But that is very unlikely.
It’s really quite spooky. Basically the early followers say stuff from the Koran instead of him, while he’s presumably where the cameraman is.
The destruction of the statues in the Kaaba is, I assume, a textual nod to Abraham destroying his father’s sculpture workshop.
It’s a good film in some respects. The conflict of views in the extended family of Mohammad are particularly interesting. Some reckon polytheism is better business. Others worry about Equality preached by Muhammad. None really seem sincerely religious or spiritual. Muhammad is the guy who spooks the settled merchants and grifters in Mecca.
Of note are the way slaves heed him and one singing black starts the call to prayer. . And also women who dodged infanticide flock to him.
The film avoids the political manoeuvring viz Jews in Yathrib though. He kills 600 Jewish men there and shares the women out to his followers as spoils. Would have been considered incitement I guess.
He will kick over Jew King of Kiev and the Ukies will then seek terms.
Nooooo. Gaza is an anchor point. If that falls Cairo is next.
If anyone can talk sense into any of them, it will probably be someone speaking their lingo, but with sense, like Pastor Chuck Baldwin, one of the few Christian leaders I know of who’s worth a damn (Archbishop Vigano is also good).
https://chuckbaldwinlive.com/Articles/tabid/109/ID/4465/News-Flash-For-Ralph-Reed-James-Dobson-Robert-Jeffress-Jonathan-Falwell-John-Hagee-Richard-Land-Jack-Graham-Et-Al.aspx
I remember that from when I was a kid.
No doubt Fagan the Jew was a boy buggerer.
It is well documented that Gazans dislike Hamas. (1)
After Hamas and PIJ are shattered, perhaps elections in Gaza will bring forward competent leaders.
PEACE 😇
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(1) https://www.thefp.com/p/they-can-go-to-hell-and-hide-there
Exactly.
I refuse to care which tribe of sand people is fighting with which other tribe of sand people.
Their ancient hatred of each other is written in their DNA. They’ve been at each other’s throats since Israel was created, and they’ll be at each other’s throats long after our grandchildren are dead.
Stop sending any of them money or materiel and let them figure it out. Or not figure it out.
Like two ants wrestling over a bread crumb… who cares?
Btw: “Winning by not losing”? Revealing Israel to be a protectorate for racism and genocide?
News flash…,Hamas is losing. By any objective measure other than “world opinion” (which means diddly squat) Hamas is losing, will continue to lose, I suspect this operation on 10/7 will turn out to be an epic miscalculation on their part. They thought other players such as Hezbollah, PLO, Iran would jump into the fray with both feet. They haven’t, to any meaningful extent. It’s Israel/US against Hamas. Once everyone tires of their little hostage game and decides to truly kick ass it’s over.
Wonder if Israel let Tehran, Beirut and Damascus know exactly how much megatonnage to expect if they got involved?
‘ but vvp has called it a sacred duty of the russian federation to protect gaza’
when did he say that?
don’t you mean compliant leaders?
You’re hardly a voice of objectivity, here.
this took me about one minute
https://www.timesofisrael.com/poll-shows-dramatic-surge-in-palestinian-support-for-hamas-after-gaza-fighting/
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/palestinian-poll-finds-strong-support-for-hamas-oct-7-attacks-river-to-the-sea-state/ar-AA1k6mEx
globally
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/03/technology/israel-hamas-information-war.html
“Misguided global support for Hamas reveals alarming reality”
yes, alarming if you’re psychotic Jewish supremacist that believes it’s your right to murder people and steal what they have..
https://www.ynetnews.com/article/sjwhcdrq6
Yes, the Palestinians support Hamas, but what’s infinitely more important than that, is that very significant swaths of the human race, also now support Hamas more than ever.
What you Jewish supremacists come off as, is like Michel Vick if one of the dogs he was torturing to death, bit him, and drew blood.
You could screech, ‘how dare you bite me?! I was only torturing you to death, but I’m Michel Vick! I’m a black NFL quarterback!! I’m sacrosanct!! How dare you bite me?!?!
But to the rest of us, there just isn’t too much sympathy for the Micheal Vicks of the world. Many of us would like to see him turned over to his dogs, for a proper reckoning.
{but vvp has called it a sacred duty of the russian federation to protect gaza and unlike western leaders and when he speaks he means what he says.}
Not quite.
He did not say ‘protect’.
He said sacred duty to provide humanitarian aid to Gaza civilians*
Big difference.
[Addressing the Russian cabinet via video link, President Putin said: “This is a very important, humanitarian, noble mission. We need to help people suffering as a result of the ongoing events.”
The Russian leader went on to describe the provision of aid to Palestinian civilians in Gaza as “our sacred duty.”]
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https://www.rt.com/russia/587784-putin-gaza-children-operated-without-anesthesia/
Is there a personal reason for your hostility and furious launching of insults at that poster? Surely it cannot be the comment because you are wrong there: dialectics implies THREE elements, thesis, anti-thesis and resolution of the opposites. Calm down.
If you are unable to make a comment that is anything more than a Tourette-like seizure in which you spew obscenities, maybe you should consider seeing a professional who can help you resolve your problem. Here you will find no relief
The soundtrack for Mohammad, Messenger of God was recorded at Anvil Studio in Buckinghamshire by recording engineer Eric Tomlinson in 1975.
Here’s some history background, not of the film, but Eric Tomlinson.
https://malonedigital.com/tomlinson.pdf
Lost out to Star Wars.
Good point. The competing ideas are Nationalism and on the other, Multicultural/Multiracial Open Society.
Zionism seeks to resolve the Jewish problem by drowning in goy blood.
This Michael Vick hypothesis goes to the inner genesis of Islam in the first place. The throw away slogans in the Koran discuss “oppress not but don’t tolerate your own oppression.” “Don’t overload the pack carrying camels” “No more blood sports guys”. Well, here we are.
There must have been a lot of that going around at the time the words were committed to paper.
Israel warns Gaza residents to flee towards Egypt border as ceasefire ends
Dec 1, 2023 #israel #gaza #palestine
Israel struck Hamas targets in Gaza after a week-long ceasefire with the terror group ended on Friday. Palestinians in the south of the strip said they had been warned to flee towards the border with Egypt.
Explosions were heard throughout the Gaza Strip and air-raid sirens sounded in southern Israel, piercing a relative silence that had fallen over the area in recent days during a tenuous, temporary truce.
It came as reports claimed that Israel was planning for a long war against Hamas with the objective of killing the group’s top three leaders, Yahya Sinwar, Mohammed Deif and Marwan Issa, and destroying its ability to govern in Gaza.
If majority of the videos of national media about Hams- Israel every week, they should change their coverage for 24/7 Middle East crisis. There are events happening daily within Canada, but most of your coverage are overseas.
“Worst is yet to come”: Civilians in Gaza face uncertain future as Israel-Hamas ceasefire ends
Israel resumed its conflict with Hamas, launching airstrikes on Gaza that have forced residents to flee, and forced injured Palestinians to seek medical care.
“With the end of the truce and the resumption of Israeli occupation’s new rounds of massacres in Gaza strip where (Israel) committed a number of massacres since this morning, killing 35 martyrs and wounding tons of people that the civil defense forces and ambulances were able to pull out from under the rubble,” Gaza Health Ministry spokesperson said.
Meanwhile, leaflets dropped on eastern areas of the main southern city, Khan Younis, have ordered residents of four towns to evacuate to the crowded town of Rafah on the Egyptian border.
“They sent us these leaflets saying we have to go to Rafah. Where do we go in Rafah? What is there? Is Rafah safe?,” a displaced Gazan, Abdul Karim Al-Shami, said.
“But what we are feeling is that the worst is yet to come. And it will be big,” another displaced Gazan, Ghassan Al-Qudra, said.
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“Worst is yet to come”: Civilians in Gaza face uncertain future as Israel-Hamas ceasefire ends
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Not even reporting about the protest here including Regina
Imagine the chest beating headlines for the civilian casualties of GB, France, Germany, Japan, Russia during WW2.
https://gab.com/LydiaGorbik/posts/111507664118296891
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzU2ghyoSpj/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_rid=5b75f60b-4253-4748-897e-6af6642ab369
Gaza hospital director’s tearful plea
The Director of the Indonesian Hospital in Gaza, Occupied Palestine, was unable to hold back tears while addressing the dire circumstances faced by the injured in the region. The Director implored human rights advocates worldwide to intervene and rescue the Palestinian people from what he described as the ‘Zionist machine of destruction’.
I saw this on youtube weeks ago heartbreaking I read that the IDF kidnapped this Indonesian director as well as the doctor director of Al Shifa God keep them safe
LIVE From PERMANENT Ceasefire Rally in NYC
700 watching now
Started streaming 31 minutes ago #freepalestine #ceasefirenow #israelprotest
We are Live in New York as crowds gather to protest the continued genocide as Israel breaks the ‘pause’ to continue their bombing. This Stop the Genocide march is also calling for a Free Palestine, and will be marching from the NYPL Steps to Bryant Park.
@JonFarinaPhoto on ‘X’
It just goes to show the power Zionist Jews have over the US Government, especially the illegitimate Zionist Joe Regime.
These despicable dual passport holding parasites are throwing bagels in the face Citizens and all they do is lower their head in shame.
Honorable effort but even Humanitarian Aid NGOs have financial sponsorshio (jewish) that can stop the operations from inside or from outside. In fact there is NO need for the flotilla..for example Turkey is the main ports that provides Israel with its OIL/Gas supplies…why is it still open to Israeli ships?? The Arab Nations AIR/SEA space still open to Israeli/USA commercial/noncommercial/Military operations also. The KEY are the Arabs Nations will to restrain Israel/USA, which obviously they are not. Israeli offers of separate peace with other Arab Muslim Nations is just a mierage, they had mede it plain and clear that AFTER Gaza Israel plans to expand its borders into Lebanon/Jordan/Syria..thet they will NOT stop until the Greater Israel is achieved, from the River to the Sea. That means long permanent WARS in the Middle East the genocides to come. It is sad that The Arab Nations lack the will to enhance their geopolitical position by forming the Muslim Version of the BRICS. An Arab Block capable of restraining Zionism, bringing Peace to the area and BRINGING ABOUT THE RECOGNITION OF A FREE INDEPENDENT PALESTINE..Unfourtunately The ARAB fear Israeli/USA military power..rightfully so..but if they hesitate to confront Israel now, by NON melitary means the Arab will pay a heavy (existencial) price. The first order of busines for an Arab BRICS will be creating a FREE Islamic Trading Bloc, beraking away from Israeli supplies..(weapons)..a Regional Islamic Bank to invest/import/exports/infraestructure/weapons/digital developments within arab nations. The flotilla is and will NOT go beyond a TV/NGO Circus..which esentially what it is..Follow the Houthis exmaple turn the RED SEA shipping lanes into a chaos for Israeli ships.
Some of the best comments I have seen – thoughtful, informative, wise, angry. I learned just how much a stay in a US hospital costs when we in the UK are so lucky it is all free. But the bankers want to get their hands on the superb NHS (National Health Service) brought in by a radical Labour Government just after WWII.
Electronic intifada website does tremendous work giving voice to brave people in Gaza and Jews like Max Blumenthal at greyzone could have been earning big bucks but instead he dedicates himself to the Palestinian cause. Norman Finkelstein is another passionate voice and there are many more. Even ex-US military like Scott Ritter have publicly renounced their support for the Zionists.
And not to forget our host, Mr Unz.
https://usboatstogaza.org/us-boats-to-gaza-joins-the-international-campaign/
Bizarre article — realitätsfremd — of the countries mentioned, only a few are in any way militarily capable, and they are not going to actively assist Hamas in this conflict — the rest are weak and incompetent, a joke really (‘the missiles landed in the Gulf of Aden approximately ten nautical miles from the ships’).
Instead there was a very straightforward way for their oil-producing (ostensible) allies to indirectly aid the Palestinians by economically harming and triggering more political unrest in the nations supporting Israel, especially the US and the UK: cut oil output.
But the statement issued by OPEC+ after their recent meeting does not mention anything about an output cut, and the next meeting isn’t scheduled until June 2024:
36th OPEC and non-OPEC Ministerial Meeting
poor translation on my part, but small difference, as his intentions are clear. the israelis understand what he is saying, see if they don’t end their “operation enduring genocide”, and are forced to the table to accept the state of palestine, their worst nightmare.
unfortunately that might just encourage them, as they got away with that, with a mere shoulder shrug. i honestly believe they do half their evil shit just to show the world, they get away with anything, with absolute impunity.
This would require a tactical nuclear strike.
Might the Chinese slam a missile up some Israeli tailpipe?
Is this the same “superb” NHS that refused to allow an infant to leave the country to get alternative treatment elsewhere?? Of course the infant died as a result of not receiving additional treatment so that was one less “patient” for the “superb” NHS to worry about…
Yes, the USA health system could be improved, but are you aware that Canadians flock to the USA to get timely treatments that are unavailable on a timely basis in Canada? In fact, there are “secret” agreements between the Canadian provinces and American border cities that allow “certain” Canadians to receive timely treatment. In fact, Canadian government officials routinely travel to the USA to get treatments that they would have to wait for in Canada.
Don;t forget that the U S health system has to deal with many more people than either Great Britain or Canada.
If you need timely treatment, you will receive it in the USA, regardless of ability to pay.
Dick-Tater Sissy in Egypt is heavily on the take from Uncle $hmuel…at the behest of the owners of the Di$trict of Corruption, almost uniformly over the House and $enate. Blackmail and bribery are the primary tools of the Talmudists. So they convinced their golem to subsidize Sissy to keep down the Egyptian people.
Oh, BTW: You call yourself a “scholar”? I knew scholarship in this ruptured republic has been going down the big swirly for decades; but for a Yiddischer teen like yourself imagining you are some sort of brainiac is laughable.
Back in the 70’s, a juvenile of my slight acquaintance had a German Shepherd he called “Major”. Are you a reincarnation of that hound?
You denigrate “sand people”…that’s cussa on account of the fact that you have no ancient Hebrew DNA, rather a ragamuffin Turko-nomadic Talmudist with ancestry from the Pale of Settlement. Pretty much pale people, you Yids, quite unlike actual Semites.
I appreciate the sentiment, but we can walk and chew gum at the same time, as the old saying goes.
We can lawfully resist our deliberate dispossession and subjugation AND the Palestinians’ dispossession and subjugation too. Their race or religion doesn’t change the evil of “israeli” atrocities, or our obligation to at least speak out on the victims’ behalf, no matter what they look like.
Proud to be white and proud to say FREE PALESTINE.
Arabs constitute 90% of the world’s Semites. Many of them — especially in Lebanon Syria Palestine Saudi rather than Egypt — are nearly white in skin color and presumably part european genetically.
There are also millions of Turks (in Turkey) of mixed Arab-White Euro-central asian admixture genetically, with light to white skin.
As for Ashkenazi, it’s wrong to say they’re “not Semites” without qualification. They have tested heavily italian genetically, and some to a lesser extent Slavic or Germanic — but they’re also often close to half Semitic.
Whatever the race or color of these peoples, the just outcome is the same: intentional mass-murderers of women and children, doctors and patients and elderly, must be executed for crimes against humanity under international law. Just like some of the nazis rightly were.
Then “israel” must be disarmed and disbanded. FREE PALESTINE.
This is what I was talking about when I was telling someone here who was trying to encourage the murder of Jewish children and the attack on Jewish schools and sinagogues all over the world that it is wrong and that Hamas and even more extremist Islamic groups would never do that.
They can but they won’t.
The Zionazis killed the leader of Hezbollah, Musawi, along with his wife and son in accord with Talmudic edict and Zionazi preference, in 1992. And they got Nasrallah, whose fighters kicked the Zionazis out of Lebanon in 2000, then kicked their arses again in 2006, although the Zionazis lie a good deal about that. It hurts their widdle egos, but bad. So the next Hamas or whatever leader is likely to be tougher, smarter and just as determined as those that came before.
Wow.
I love a good salad.
But not word salad.
I have no idea what you’re saying in your reply. I doubt you do, either.
Let me try to help you wrestle with your unruly thoughts and less-than-stellar command of whatever language you’re attempting to speak.
1. No. I’m not the reincarnation of a dog belonging to a “juvenile” with whom you were slightly acquainted in 1970. Glad we could at least clear that up for you.
2. You claim to know a lot about what my DNA is, and isn’t. All from a comment I made. Impressive. Why do we need 23 and Me when we have your sterling analytic powers at our disposal?
3. I’m definitely not a “yid”. I don’t have ancient Hebrew DNA. I probably don’t have turko nomadic talmudist DNA either, but I’m not sure how one tests for that.
4. I may definitely have a little “ragamuffin” DNA in there somewhere. At least, I like the word “ragamuffin”. You don’t hear that word any more. Thanks for including that in your salad.
If you’re going to respond to this, please have someone who speaks English, has an IQ over 85, and is sober proofread it first.
The kikes are beyond sick. But Americans bow to them.
Ah, the Buddha Ms Caitlin speaks the truth.
The Goal Is Ethnic Cleansing, Not Defeating Hamas by Ms Caitlin Johnstone!
https://caitlinjohnstone.com.au/2023/12/02/the-goal-is-ethnic-cleansing-not-defeating-hamas/
The funny thing about Henry Kissinger dying at age 100 is that he lived long enough to become one of the least crazy warmongers in the DC swamp - not because he got saner, but because the United States empire has gotten so much crazier. Almost everyone running the United States government today is a worse warmonger than Mr. Kissinger was at the end of his life.
Israeli officials keep openly saying again and again that the plan for Gaza is ethnic cleansing, yet the western political-media class adamantly insists on continuing to frame Israels actions in Gaza solely as a war against Hamas. Hamas is not the target, it is the excuse.
A damning new report from +972 Magazine published on Thursday exposes how Israel has been deliberately striking civilian targets in Gaza as a matter of policy because they believe it will “lead civilians to put pressure on Hamas.” It makes it clear that the IDF is very much aware of where the civilians are, and that when they kill children it is because they calculated that it would be strategically worthwhile to do so.
As evidence continues to mount that a significant number of the Israelis killed on October 7 were actually killed by indiscriminate fire from the IDF, Israel has announced its plans to bury the vehicles Israelis died in - in other words to bury forensic evidence. According to the Jerusalem Post, “In order to save space and be as environment-friendly as possible.. the cars may be shredded before being buried.”
Are people not tired of having their intelligence insulted?
Westerners are taught (falsely) that their governments embody virtuous values systems prioritizing freedom, peace, justice and truth, and here is this bizarre ethnostate glommed onto them which very clearly wipes its ass with those values without even really attempting to disguise it.
The western empire has destroyed nation after nation on the premise each of those nations was governed by an Evil Dictator who could not be allowed to remain in power, and yet we are being asked to look past the actions of an intimate partner of the western empire which make those Evil Dictators look like teddy bears and believe that that partner is actually entirely in alignment with the values of the virtuous west. There is no way to reconcile these two completely contradictory perspectives, so you get cognitive dissonance.
The problem here is that there is no way to spin children as imperfect victims; they are inherently blameless. If everyone in Gaza was a Hamas fighter, or even a military-aged male, then the “imperfect victims” strategy would work fine, but Gaza happens to contain an unusually high percentage of children and Israel is killing them at a very unusual rate.
You can try to say babies and small children are actually covert Hamas fighters or Hamas supporters, but all you will succeed in doing is making your side look worse than it already does. It is a major obstacle for the western empire.
There is no Gaza genocide.
They’re back at it and israel is giving them the business…after hamas its hezbollah…maybe a little of both…
Typical Talmudist pilpul. Ahhh. The arrogance with its again typical faux intellectual vacuity. Pity if you are incapable of comprehending my discourse. But then Talmudists, as well as terminally deluded “Christian” Zionists claim a direct connexion to their ancient Hebrew tribal WarGod YHWH/Yahweh/Jehovah, the bloodthirsty tyrant.
Amazing that you disputed your Canis Major Doppelgänger. Some people do take everything seriously.
Though my command of French, German, Norwegian and bits and pieces of other languages is disputable; my wordsmithery in American English was rated clear back in 1962 in the standard SAT testing regimen as at the 99.97th percentile. However, I’d rather not discuss my mechanical aptitude.
Different strokes for different folks, I guess.
It does appear that many $ayanim and HasBarfas have this thing with the term “word salad” when dealing with a hyper-literate antagonist. Perhaps there is a handbook?
Oh, and as a retired editor and publisher, proofreading is quite well ingrained. Sorry about your achieving dented fenders and a crunched chassis in this demolition derby…but you should know by now that even Majorettes can become untracked and unglued. However, rest assured that you cannot become “uncircumcised”.
Second iteration after choking down the entirety of your screed. Without a doubt you are an arrogant and racist Talmudist extremist…even to the point of urging your team to open Pandora’s Box, by means of nuking Iran, Lebanon and Syria.
What supremacist Zionists like yourself fail to recognize is the fact that both Russia and China have Iran’s back…ditto Syria’s. The Zionist Entity is not a large country. Mr Kinzhal might have something to say, laughing all the way about your hapless “Iron Dome”.
Tit for Tat is fair in love and war.
One thing I know for sure about Talmudists is that there is no love for others in your corrupt and corruptive ethnocentric, exclusive belief system.
For each action, there is an equal but opposite reaction. Waging massive genocidal war against a civilian population because today’s IDF is mostly a gaggle of softies who specialize in torturing and murdering women, children and elders…but do not have the guts to face dedicated warriors in hand to hand combat.
Don’t start weeping immediately, but the Yinon Plan is going down the Big Swirly.
Maybe as a whole, but individually no. We are for the most part, a product of the circumstances of where we are born. The government systems in place do not allow individuals the avenue to change those systems. There are competing ideas…
http://www.theanarchistalternative.info/index.html
Yes you will, especially if you’re from a protected group and there are many. If you’re unfortunate to have a bit of wealth you’ll pay coming & going(someone has to pay for everyone that doesn’t). First you pay insurance, then you pay the dr to schedule the surgery, then you really pay the hospital, then the rehab & the follow-up visits to the dr. You hope it happens all in 1yr so you meet your maximum out of pocket. Usually it doesn’t. Most people just avoid it & hope for the best until they can’t. My point is healthcare is pretty much a function of government now & that’s the problem everywhere resulting in the explosion of medical tourism worldwide.
That is pretty much the textbook definition of terrorism. Not surprising, since the so-called “State of Israel’” was founded by Jewish terrorists, which means it has always been a criminal enterprise. It should not be expected that it would change its behavior.
Israel needs to be taken by the throat. If this flotilla sails, an Israeli attack would further isolate them politically.
If Erdogan had the courage of his convictions, he would have expelled the US bases from Turkey a long time ago.
Israel is a parasitic, saphotropic country that cannot long survive without the tribute it extracts from the US (and German) taxpayers.
If diaspora Jews love the place so much, they should be sent to live there.
In Israel, if you’re a “Disgraced Criminal” you become Prime Minister!
Erdogan the Turk has neither courage, nor conviction, other than conviction of Pan-Turkism. It’s all for show, to placate his Islamist voter base, and appear the leader of Sunni Muslims.
Erdogan does not need to use military force against Israel*.
Israel gets a huge chunk of its oil from Azerbaijan — thru Turkey.
If Erdogan shuts down the oil transfer, the Israeli war machine would come to a halt in a couple of weeks.
No oil, No Merkava tanks in Gaza.
No oil, No F-16 jets dropping bombs on Gaza.
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* he wouldn’t dare in any case.
Israel will nuke Turks if Turks attacked Israel.
And if Pakistan gives nukes to Turks to use against Israel, both Pakistan and Turkey would be erased by US: hundreds of thermonuclear nukes raining down like confetti.
Pakistan has no missiles that can reach US: Paks can do nothing but get vaporized.
Holy Terrorism, my chelonian friend. Terrorism and butchery ORDERED by Yahweh. These Gazansare ‘beasts’ and ‘Amalek’ after all. Every eviscerated child is a mitzvah offered to Yahweh.
Major (a good name for a dog)is either a goy nutcase, brainwashed into that hatred of the entire non-Western world that comes from a MSM controlled by the likes of Satan Murdoch, or a Jew crazed by three thousand five hundred years of xenophobic hatred of the Other, the goy, into actively seeking self-destruction in a global Samson operation. Either way, it is despicable. Was humanity’s ultimate fate ever in doubt?
Are you in an American living in the USA? If not, you would be surprised that the “horror stories” about the American medical system are patently false. If that is the case, I must respectfully disagree with your assessment of the American health care system(s).
If you offer to pay cash, you can receive a substantial “discount” for medical services.
Payment agreements are commonly used to “keep the healthcare collections wolf from the door”.
If you are not in a “protected” class, you can make a “payment agreement” for as little as $5 or $10 a month. Every health care billing system will accept such an “agreement”. As long as you make a nominal payment, the health care billing system will leave you alone and will not dun you for the full amount.
Even they know that you cannot “get blood from a stone” and will eventually forgive a part of the debt.
Add to that, medical expense arrears are not reportable to the three credit reporting agencies in the USA. Failure to pay medical bills will not “ding” your credit rating score.
There are no nukes, bub.
Stop believing in Tavistock psyops.
{There are no nukes, bub.}
Really? bub.
Then USSR must have generated this vid via AI back in 1961:
[Russia releases secret footage of 1961 Tsar Bomba hydrogen blast]
You are too stupid to match wits with me, bub.
Get Lost.
Don’t bother me again, bub.
Yes American in America, wm in flyover country. My story is my own & although I always pay up front to get the discount, what I said is true & everything is way overpriced. If you don’t pay the debts they are not forgiven, the hospital will put a lien on any RE asset you have. So your idea of getting out of paying only works if you have nothing worth taking. The insured end up paying for the remainder via gov sanction. One bad year can easily bankrupt a person, 2 or 3 and ya got nothing left to live for, financially anyway. If that’s a good system, you & I play on different playgrounds.
Government intervention has ruined the American medical system.
You truly are a fool.
All that ” atomic ” test footage was faked. There are NO nukes. Get that into your thick skull.
But hey, I guess you believe in the tooth fairy too. Bog off, punk.
You forgot that Putin is pro-Israel.
Nothign will happen. Erdogan is the biggest s**t-talker in the world.
Real hometown America still exists in “flyover country”. The “mainstream media” makes a fundamental error in ignoring those of us in small towns or rural areas. In one way, that is a good thing. Let them concentrate on the big cities which will be the first to collapse. Those of us in “flyover country” can and will make do without modern conveniences if the SHTF.
Elderly, how elderly, doesn’t she have Medicare and the supplemental coverage?
Fagin was based on a notorious Jewish criminal Ikey Solomon. He was a dealer in stolen goods. He organized the burglaries and thefts to obtain the stolen goods. He was a pimp of not just teens and young women but little girls as young as 5. He wasn’t the only one, many English goyim ran young girl prostitution operations too. Also ran kids who worked as pick pockets shoplifters smash and grab robbers. Even stealing clothes off clotheslines.
Gee whiz, if Muslims had just stayed put in Saudi for the last 1,500 years there wouldn’t be any problems either. They invaded and conquered as far east as China. Invaded and conquered the southern side of the Mediterranean That area being the most civilized place on earth in 650AD. And it’s been deteriorating ever since.* . They invaded east central and north Europe. Turk Muslims destroyed the far far north west Greenland settlement to capture slaves.
All these articles claiming Israel will be defeated are just wishful thinking. Israel rules America as Spain once ruled South and a big chunk of North America. Israel rules America as England once ruled 1/5th of the world. Ukraine has turned into an Israeli colony in Europe. Like the Israeli colony known as the United States of America or Israel West.
The Golden Age of Islam never was. It was just a 300 year period before Islam destroyed what it conquered.
I assume you’ve never heard of medical insurance free or sliding scale payment county hospitals and clinics or Medicare and Medicaid