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[First published in Liberty, September 1989]

Speaking truth to power” is not easy when you support that power. Perhaps this is the reason why so few Western historians are willing to tell the whole truth about state crimes during this century.

Last fall [1988 —Ed.] the Moscow News reported the discovery by two archaeologist-historians of mass graves at Kuropaty, near Minsk, in the Soviet republic of Byelorussia.[1]Washington Post, Oct. 23, 1988. The scholars at first estimated that the victims numbered around 102,000, a figure that was later revised to 250–300,000.[2]Robert Conquest in The Independent (London), Dec. 5, 1988. Interviews with older inhabitants of the village revealed that, from 1937 until June 1941, when the Germans invaded, the killings never stopped. “For five years, we couldn’t sleep at night because of all the shooting,” one witness said.

Then in March, a Soviet commission finally conceded that the mass graves at Bykovnia, outside of Kiev, were the result not of the Nazis’ work, as formerly was maintained, but of the industry of Stalin’s secret police. Some 200–300,000 persons were killed at Bykovnia, according to unofficial estimates.[3]New York Times, March 25, 1989.

These graves represent a small fraction of the human sacrifice that an elite of revolutionary Marxists offered up to their ideological fetish. How many died under Stalin alone, from the shootings, the terror famine, and the forced-labor camps, is uncertain. Writing in a Moscow journal, Roy Medvedev, the dissident Soviet Marxist, put the number at around 20 million, a figure the sovietologist Stephen F. Cohen views as conservative.[4]New York Times, Feb. 4, 1989. Stephen F. Cohen, “The Survivor as Historian: Introduction,” in Anton Antonov-Ovseyenko, The Time of Stalin: A Portrait in Tyranny, trans. George Saunders (New York: Harper and Row, 1980), p. vii. Robert Conquest’s estimate is between 20 million and 30 million or more,[5]Robert Conquest, The Great Terror: Stalin’s Purge of the Thirties (Macmillan: London, 1968), p. 533. See also note 2. while Anton Antonov-Ovseyenko suggests 41 million deaths between 1930 and 1941.[6]Ibid., p. 213.
(Robert Conquest, The Great Terror: Stalin’s Purge of the Thirties (Macmillan: London, 1968), p. 533. See also note 2.)

By everyone’s account, most of the victims were killed before the United States and Britain welcomed the Soviet Union as their ally in June 1941. Yet by then, the evidence concerning at least very widespread Communist killings was available to anyone willing to listen.

If glasnost proceeds and if the whole truth about the Lenin and Stalin eras comes to light, educated opinion in the West will be forced to reassess some of its most deeply cherished views. On a minor note, Stalinist sympathizers like Lillian Hellman, Frieda Kirchwey, and Owen Lattimore will perhaps not be lionized quite as much as before. More important, there will have to be a reevaluation of what it meant for the British and American governments to have befriended Soviet Russia in the Second World War and heaped fulsome praise on its leader. That war will inevitably lose some of its glory as the pristinely pure crusade led by the larger-than-life heroes Winston Churchill and Franklin D. Roosevelt. Inevitably, too, comparisons with what is commonly known as the Holocaust will emerge.

The “Dispute of Historians”

Such comparisons have been at the center of the raging controversy in the Federal Republic of Germany that has been labeled the Historikerstreit, or dispute of historians, and has now become an international cause célèbre. It erupted primarily because of the work of Ernst Nolte, of the Free University of Berlin, author of the highly acclaimed Three Faces of Fascism, published in the United States in 1966. In several important essays, in a large book published in 1987, The European Civil War, 1917–1945, and in a volume of responses to his critics,[7]Nolte’s first essay to draw fire appeared originally in English: “Between Myth and Revisionism? The Third Reich in the Perspective of the 1980s,” in an important volume edited by H.W. Koch, Aspects of the Third Reich (London: Macmillan, 1985), pp. 17–39. Some of Nolte’s contributions to the debate, as well as those of many other writers, appear in the useful collection, “Historikerstreit”: Die Dokumentation der Kontroverse um die Einzigartigkeit der nationalsozialistischen Judenvernichtung (Munich: Piper, 1987). Nolte’s Der europaeische Buergerkrieg, 1917–1945. Nationalsozialismus und Bolschewismus (Frankfurt/ Main: Propylen, 1987) has not yet been translated. His rebuttals to some of the attacks are contained in his Das Vergehen der Vergangenheit. Antwort an meine Kritiker im sogenannten Historikerstreit (2nd. ed., Ullstein: Berlin, 1988). Nolte declined to treat the Nazi massacre of the Jews in the conventional fashion.

These graves represent a small fraction of the human sacrifice that an elite of revolutionary Marxists offered up to their ideological fetish.

He refused, that is, to deal with it metaphysically, as a unique object of evil, existing there in a small segment of history, in a nearly perfect vacuum, with at most merely ideological links to racist and Social Darwinist thought of the preceding century. Instead, without denying the importance of ideology, he attempted to set the Holocaust in the context of the history of Europe in the first decades of the 20th century. His aim was in no way to excuse the mass murder of the Jews, or to diminish the guilt of the Nazis for this crime dreadful beyond words. But he insisted that this mass murder must not lead us to forget others, particularly those that might stand in a causal relationship to it.

Briefly, Nolte’s thesis is that it was the Communists who introduced into modern Europe the awful fact and terrifying threat of the killing of civilians on a vast scale, implying the extermination of whole categories of persons. (One Old Bolshevik, Zinoviev, spoke openly as early as 1918 of the need to eliminate 10,000,000 of the people of Russia.) In the years and decades following the Russian Revolution, middle-class, upper-class, Catholic, and other Europeans were well aware of this fact, and for them especially the threat was a very real one. This helps to account for the violent hatred shown to their own domestic Communists in the various European countries by Catholics, conservatives, fascists, and even Social Democrats.

Nolte’s thesis continues: those who became the Nazi elite were well-informed regarding events in Russia, via White Russian and Baltic German émigrés (who even exaggerated the extent of the first, Leninist atrocities). In their minds, as in those of right-wingers generally, the Bolshevik acts were transformed, irrationally, into Jewish acts, a transformation helped along by the existence of a high proportion of Jews among the early Bolshevik leaders. (Inclined to anti-Semitism from the start, the rightists ignored the fact that, as Nolte points out, the proportion among the Mensheviks was higher, and, of course, the great majority of the European Jews were never Communists.) A similar, ideologically mandated displacement, however, occurred among the Communists themselves: after the assassination of Uritsky and the attempted assassination of Lenin by Social Revolutionaries, for instance, hundreds of “bourgeois” hostages were executed.

The Communists never ceased proclaiming that all of their enemies were tools of a single conspiracy of the “world bourgeoisie.”

The facts regarding the Ukrainian terror famine of the early 1930s and the Stalinist gulag were also known in broad outline in European right-wing circles. When all is said and done, Nolte concludes, “the Gulag came before Auschwitz.” If it had not been for what happened in Soviet Russia, European fascism, especially Nazism and the Nazi massacre of the Jews,[8]The Nazis were responsible, of course, for the deaths of millions of non-Jews, especially Poles and Soviet prisoners of war. The Jewish genocide, however, has been the focus of discussion. would most probably not have been what they were.

The Onslaught on Nolte

Nolte’s previous work on the history of socialism could hardly have made him persona grata with leftist intellectuals in his own country. Among other things, he had emphasized the archaic, reactionary character of Marxism and the anti-Semitism of many of the early socialists, and had referred to “liberal capitalism” or “economic freedom,” rather than socialism, as “the real and modernizing revolution.”

The attack on Nolte was launched by the leftist philosopher Jürgen Habermas, who took issue not with Nolte’s historiography — his essays showed that Habermas was in no position to judge this — but with what he viewed as its ideological implications. Habermas also targeted a couple of other German historians, and added other points, like the plan to establish museums of German history in West Berlin and in Bonn, to the indictment. But Nolte and his thesis have continued to be at the center of the Historikerstreit. He was accused of “historicizing” and “relativizing” the Holocaust and chided for questioning its “uniqueness.”

Several of the biggest names among academic historians in the Federal Republic, and then in Britain and America as well, joined in the hunt, gleefully seizing upon some of Nolte’s less felicitous expressions and weaker minor points. In Berlin, radicals set fire to his car; at Oxford, Wolfson College withdrew an invitation to deliver a lecture, after pressure was applied, just as a major German organization dispensing research grants rescinded a commitment to Nolte under Israeli pressure. In the American press, ignorant editors, who couldn’t care less anyway, now routinely permit Nolte to be represented as an apologist for Nazism.

It cannot be said that Nolte has demonstrated the truth of his thesis — his achievement is rather to have pointed out important themes that call for further research — and his presentation is in some respects flawed. Still, one might well wonder what there is in his basic account to justify such a frenzy. The comparison between Nazi and Soviet atrocities has often been drawn by respected scholars. Robert Conquest, for instance, states,

For Russians — and it is surely right that this should become true for the world as a whole — Kolyma [one part of the Gulag] is a word of horror wholly comparable to Auschwitz … it did indeed kill some three million people, a figure well in the range of that of the victims of the Final Solution.[9]Robert Conquest, Kolyma:The Arctic Death Camps (New York: Viking, 1978), pp. 15–16.

Others have gone on to assert a causal connection. Paul Johnson maintains that important elements of the Soviet forced-labor camps system were copied by the Nazis, and posits a link between the Ukrainian famine and the Holocaust:

The camps system was imported by the Nazis from Russia.… Just as the Roehm atrocities goaded Stalin into imitation, so in turn the scale of his mass atrocities encouraged Hitler in his wartime schemes to change the entire demography of Eastern Europe … Hitler’s “final solution” for the Jews had its origins not only in his own fevered mind but in the collectivization of the Soviet peasantry.[10]Paul Johnson, Modern Times (New York: Harper and Row, 1983), pp. 304–305. Johnson does not, however, provide any relevant sources for this claim.

Nick Eberstadt, an expert on Soviet demography, concludes that “the Soviet Union is not only the original killer state, but the model one.”[11]Nick Eberstadt, Introduction to Iosif G. Dyadkin, Unnatural Deaths in the U.S.S.R., 1928–1954 (New Brunswick, N.J.: Transaction Books, 1983), 4. As for the tendency among European rightists after 1917 to identify the Bolshevik regime with the Jews, there is no end of evidence.[12]See Arno J. Mayer,Why Did the Heavens Not Darken? The “Final Solution” in History (New York: Pantheon, 1988), passim. Indeed, it was an immensely tragic error to which even many outside of right-wing circles were liable. In 1920, after a visit to Russia, Bertrand Russell wrote to Lady Ottoline Morell:

Bolshevism is a closed tyrannical bureaucracy, with a spy system more elaborate and terrible than the Tsar’s, and an aristocracy as insolent and unfeeling, composed of Americanised Jews.[13]Bertrand Russell, The Autobiography of Bertrand Russell, II, 1914–1944 (Boston: Uttle, Brown, 1968), p. 172.

But, despite the existence of a supporting scholarly context for Nolte’s position, he remains beleaguered in his native land, with only isolated individuals, like Joachim Fest, coming to his defense. If recent English-language publications are a reliable indication, his situation will not improve as the controversy spreads to other countries.

Why Did the Heavens Not Darken?

The recent work by Arno J. Mayer, of Princeton, Why Did the Heavens Not Darken?[14]See note 12. is in some respects informative;[15]Mayer concludes that Hitler’s attack on the Soviet Union was not intended as a step toward “world domination,” but was the culmination of his plans to provide Germany with the Lebensraum, or living-space, which he, in his archaic way, believed was a prerequisite for German survival and prosperity. above all, however, it is a perfect illustration of why Nolte’s work was so badly needed.

The great crime that is today virtually forgotten was the expulsion of the Germans from their centuries-old homelands in East Prussia, Pomerania, and elsewhere. About 16 million persons were displaced, with about 2 million of them dying in the process.

We can leave aside Mayer’s approach to the origins of the “Judeocide” (as he calls it), which is “functionalist” rather than “intentionalist,” in the current jargon, and which provoked a savage review.[16]Daniel Jonah Goldhagen, “False Witness,” The New Republic, April 17, 1989, pp. 39–44. A fair statement of the differences between intentionalist and functionalists can be found in Saul Friedlander’s introduction to Gerald Fleming’s Hitler and the Final Solution(Berkeley: University of California Press, 1982). What is pertinent here is his presentation of the killing of the European Jews as an outgrowth of the fierce hatred of “Judeobolshevism” that allegedly permeated all of German and European “bourgeois” society after 1917, reaching its culmination in the Nazi movement and government. This approach lends support to Nolte’s thesis.

The problem, however, is that Mayer offers no real grounds for the bitter hatred that so many harbored for Bolshevism, aside from the threat that Bolshevism abstractly posed to their narrow and retrograde “class interests.” Virtually the only major Soviet atrocity even alluded to in the 449 pages of text (there are, oddly and inexcusably, no notes)[17]Notes would, presumably, have added to the book’s length, but the author could have compensated by omitting his rehashings of well-known political and military history in the period. is the deportation of some 400,000 Jews from the territories annexed after the Hitler-Stalin pact. Even here, however, Mayer hastens to reassure us that the policy was “not specifically anti-Semitic and did not preclude assimilated and secularized Jews from continuing to secure important positions in civil and political society … a disproportionate number of Jews came to hold posts in the secret police and to serve as political commissars in the armed service.” Well, Mazel Tov.

The fear and loathing of Communism that Poles, Hungarians, and Romanians, for instance, felt in the interwar period, strongly endorsed by their national churches, is qualified by Mayer as an “obsession.” With Mayer, fear of Communism is always “obsessional” and limited to the “ruling classes,” prey to an anti-Bolshevik “demonology.” But the recourse to clinical and theological terms is no substitute for historical understanding, and Mayer’s account — Soviet Communism with the murders left out — precludes such understanding.

Consider the case of Clemens August Count von Galen, Archbishop of Münster.

As Mayer notes, Galen led the Catholic bishops of Germany in 1941 in publicly protesting the Nazi policy of murdering mental patients. The protest was shrewdly crafted and proved successful: Hitler suspended the killings. Yet, as Mayer further notes, Archbishop Galen (deplorably) “consecrated” the war against Soviet Russia. Why?

To cite another example: Admiral Horthy, the Regent of Hungary, was an opponent of murdering the Jews and attempted, within his limited means, to save the Jews of Budapest. Yet he continued to have his troops fight against the Soviets and alongside the Germans long after the coming defeat was obvious. Why? Could it possibly be that, in both cases, the previous bloody history of Soviet Communism had something to do with their attitude? In Mayer’s retelling, Crusader murders in Jerusalem in the year 1096 are an important part of the story, but not Bolshevik murders in the 1920s and ’30s.

Allegations of Soviet crimes do appear in Mayer’s book. But they are put in the mouths of Hitler and Goebbels, with no comment from Mayer, thereby signaling their “fanatical” and “obsessional” character, e.g., “the führer ranted about bolshevism wading deeper in blood than tsarism” (actually, Hitler’s claim here is hardly controversial).

In fact, it seems likely that Mayer simply does not believe that there were anything approaching tens of millions of victims of the Soviet regime. He writes, for instance, of “an iron nexus between absolute war and large-scale political murder in eastern Europe.” But most of the large-scale Stalinist political murders occurred when the Soviet Union was at peace. The massive upheavals, with their accompanying terror and mass killings, that characterized Soviet history in the 1920s and 30s, Mayer refers to in almost unbelievably anodyne terms as “the general transformation of political and civil society.” In other words, Mayer gives every evidence of being a Ukrainian-famine, Great-Terror, and gulag “revisionist.” This is an aspect of Mayer’s book that the reviewers in the mainstream press had an obligation to point out but omitted to do so.

Mayer has no patience with any suggestion that great crimes may have been committed against Germans in the Second World War and its aftermath. Here he joins the vast majority of his contemporaries, professional and lay alike, as well as the Nuremberg Tribunal itself.

Taboo War Crimes — the Allies’

If Soviet mass atrocities provide a historical context for Nazi crimes, so does a set of crimes that few, inside or outside the Federal Republic, seem willing to bring into the debate: the ones perpetrated, planned, or conspired in by the Western Allies.

All mass murderers — all of the state terrorists on a grand scale, whatever their ethnicity or that of their victims — must be arraigned before the court of history.

There was, first of all, the policy of terror bombing of the cities of Germany, begun by the British in 1942. The Principal Assistant Secretary of the Air Ministry later boasted of the British initiative in the wholesale massacring of civilians from the air.[18]J. M. Spaight, cited in J.F.C. Fuller, The Second World War, 1939–45. A Strategical and Tactical History (London: Eyre and Spottiswoode, 1954), p. 222. Altogether, the RAF and US Army Air Force killed around 600,000 German civilians,[19]Max Hastings, Bomber Command (New York: Dial, 1979), p. 352. whose deaths were aptly characterized by the British military historian and Major-General J.F.C. Fuller as “appalling slaughterings, which would have disgraced Attila.”[20]Fuller, The Second World War, p. 228. A recent British military historian has concluded: “The cost of the bomber offensive in life, treasure, and moral superiority over the enemy tragically outstripped the results that it achieved.”[21]Hastings,Bomber Command. The best short introduction to the subject is the review of Hastings’s book by the gifted London journalist Geoffrey Wheatcroft, The Spectator, Sept. 29, 1979, reprinted in Inquiry, Dec. 24, 1979. It was the only review Inquiry ever reprinted.

The planned, but aborted, Allied atrocity was the Morgenthau Plan, concocted by the US Secretary of the Treasury, Henry Morgenthau, and initialed by Roosevelt and Churchill at the Second Quebec Conference, in September 1944. The Plan aimed to transform postwar Germany into an agricultural and pastoral country, incapable of waging war because it would have no industry. Even the coal mines of the Ruhr were to be flooded. Of course, in the process tens of millions of Germans would have died. The inherent insanity of the plan very quickly led Roosevelt’s other advisors to press him into abandoning it, but not before it had become public (as its abandonment did not).

Following upon the policy of “unconditional surrender” announced in early 1943, the Morgenthau Plan stoked the Nazi rage. “Goebbels and the controlled Nazi press had a field day … ‘Roosevelt and Churchill agree at Quebec to the Jewish Murder Plan,’ and ‘Details of the Devilish Plan of Destruction: Morgenthau the Spokesman of World Judaism.”[22]Anne Armstrong, Unconditional Surrender. The Impact of the Casablanca Policy upon World War II (1961; repro. Westport, Conn.: Greenwood, 1974), p. 76. On the Morgenthau Plan, see ibid., pp. 68–77. For the text of the plan, see Alfred de Zayas, Nemesis at Potsdam. The Anglo-Americans and the Expulsion of the Germans. Background, Execution, and Consequences (London: Routledge and Kegan Paul, 1977), pp. 229–232.
(Hastings,Bomber Command. The best short introduction to the subject is the review of Hastings’s book by the gifted London journalist Geoffrey Wheatcroft, The Spectator, Sept. 29, 1979, reprinted in Inquiry, Dec. 24, 1979. It was the only review Inquiry ever reprinted.)

There are two further massive crimes involving the Allied governments that deserve mention (limiting ourselves to the European theater). Today it is fairly well-known that, when the war was over, British and American political and military leaders directed the forced repatriation of hundreds of thousands of Soviet subjects (and the surrender of some, like the Cossacks, who had never been subjects of the Soviet state). Many were executed, most were channeled into the gulag. Solzhenitsyn had bitter words for the Western leaders who handed over to Stalin the remnants of Vlasov’s Russian Army of Liberation:

In their own country, Roosevelt and Churchill are honored as embodiments of statesmanlike wisdom. To us, in our Russian prison conversations, their consistent shortsightedness and stupidity stood out as astonishingly obvious … what was the military or political sense in their surrendering to destruction at Stalin’s hands hundreds of thousands of armed Soviet citizens determined not to surrender.[23]Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago, 1918–1956. An Experiment in Literary Investigation, I-II, trans. Thomas P. Whitney (New York: Harper and Row, 1973), p. 259n.

Of Winston Churchill, Alexander Solzhenitsyn wrote:

He turned over to the Soviet command the Cossack corps of 90,000 men. Along with them he also handed over many wagonloads of old people, women, and children.… This great hero, monuments to whom will in time cover all England, ordered that they, too, be surrendered to their deaths.[24]Ibid., pp. 259–260.
(Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago, 1918–1956. An Experiment in Literary Investigation, I-II, trans. Thomas P. Whitney (New York: Harper and Row, 1973), p. 259n.)

The great crime that is today virtually forgotten was the expulsion starting in 1945 of the Germans from their centuries-old homelands in East Prussia, Pomerania, Silesia, Sudetenland, and elsewhere. About 16 million persons were displaced, with about 2 million of them dying in the process.[25]Alfred de Zayas, Nemesis at Potsdam, p. xix. This is a fact, which, as the American legal scholar Alfred de Zayas dryly notes, “has somehow escaped the attention it deserves.”[26]Ibid.
(Alfred de Zayas, Nemesis at Potsdam, p. xix.)
While those directly guilty were principally the Soviets, Poles, and Czechs (the last led by the celebrated democrat and humanist, Eduard Benes), British and American leaders early on authorized the principle of expulsion of the Germans and thus set the stage for what occurred at the war’s end. Anne O’Hare McCormick, the New York Times correspondent who witnessed the exodus of the Germans, reported in 1946:

The scale of this resettlement and the conditions in which it takes place are without precedent in history. No one seeing its horrors firsthand can doubt that it is a crime against humanity for which history will exact a terrible retribution.

McCormick added: “We share responsibility for horrors only comparable to Nazi cruelties.”[27]Ibid., p. 123.
(Alfred de Zayas, Nemesis at Potsdam, p. xix.)

Bringing All State Terrorists to Account

In the Federal Republic today, to mention any of these Allied — or even Soviet — crimes in the same breath with the Nazis is to invite the devastating charge of attempting an Aufrechnen — an offsetting, or balancing against. The implication is that one is somehow seeking to diminish the Nazis’ undying guilt for the Holocaust by pointing to the guilt of other governments for other crimes. This seems to me to be a thoroughly warped perspective.

In fact, all great states in the 20th century have been killer states, to a greater or lesser degree.

All mass murderers — all of the state terrorists on a grand scale, whatever their ethnicity or that of their victims — must be arraigned before the court of history. It is impermissible to let some of them off the hook, even if the acts of others may be characterized as unique in their brazen embrace of evil and their sickening horror. As Lord Acton said, the historian should be a hanging judge, for the muse of history is not Clio, but Rhadamanthus, the avenger of innocent blood.

There was a time in America when well-known writers felt an obligation to remind their fellow citizens of the criminal misdeeds of their government, even against Germans. Thus, the courageous radical Dwight MacDonald indicted the air war against German civilians during the war itself.[28]Many of Dwight MacDonald’s essays critical of the Allies’ conduct of the war were collected in his Memoirs of a Revolutionist (New York: Farrar, Straus, and Cudahy, 1957). On the other side of the spectrum, the respected conservative journalist William Henry Chamberlin, in a book published by Henry Regnery, assailed the genocidal Morgenthau Plan and labeled the expulsion of the eastern Germans “one of the most barbarous actions in European history.”[29]William Henry Chamberlin, America’s Second Crusade (Chicago: Henry Regnery, 1950), pp. 304, 310, 312.

Nowadays the only publication that seems to care about these old wrongs is the Spectator (the real one, of course), which happens also to be the best-edited political magazine in English. The Spectator has published articles by British writers honorably admitting the shame they felt upon viewing what remains of the great cities of Germany, once famed in the annals of science and art. Other contributors have pointed out the meaning of the loss of the old German populations of the area that is today again being fashionably referred to as Mitteleuropa. A Hungarian writer, G.M. Tamas, recently wrote,

The Jews were murdered and mourned.… But who has mourned the Germans? Who feels any guilt for the millions expelled from Silesia and Moravia and the Volga region, slaughtered during their long trek, starved, put into camps, raped, frightened, humiliated?… Who dares to remember that the expulsion of the Germans made the communist parties quite popular in the 1940s? Who is revolted because the few Germans left behind, whose ancestors built our cathedrals, monasteries, universities, and railway stations, today cannot have a primary school in their own language? The world expects Germany and Austria to “come to terms” with their past. But no one will admonish us, Poles, Czechs, and Hungarians, to do the same. Eastern Europe’s dark secret remains a secret. A universe of culture was destroyed.[30]G.M. Tamas, “The Vanishing Germans,” The Spectator, May 6, 1989.

More remarkably still, Auberon Waugh drew attention to the fervid support given by British leaders to the Nigerian generals during the Civil War (1967–70), at a time “when the International Red Cross assured us that 10,000 Biafrans a day were dying of starvation,” victims of a conscious, calculated policy.[31]The Spectator, June 10, 1989. His observation was a propos of the massacre in Tiananmen Square and the nearly universal execration of the Chinese leaders; it was a telling one.

In fact, both the Soviet and Nazi mass murders must be placed in a wider context. Just as it is unlikely that Nazi racist ideology of itself can account for the murder of the Jews — and so many others — so Leninist amoralism is probably not enough to account for Bolshevik crimes. The crucial intervening historical fact may well be the mass killings of the First World War — of millions of soldiers, but also of thousands of civilians on the high seas by German submarines and of hundreds of thousands of civilians in central Europe by the British hunger blockade.[32]On the British hunger blockade and its likely effect in helping shape Nazi brutality, see my contribution, “The Politics of Hunger: A Review,”The Review of Austrian Economics, III (1988), pp. 253–259. Arno Mayer makes the important point in regard to World War I that “this immense bloodletting … contributed to inuring Europe to the mass killings of the future.” He means this in connection with the Nazis, but it probably also holds for the Communists themselves, witnesses to the results of a war brought about by “capitalist imperialism.” None of this, of course, excuses any of the subsequent state criminals.

In fact, all great states in this century have been killer states, to a greater or lesser degree. Naturally, the “degree” matters — sometimes very much. But it makes no sense to isolate one mass atrocity, historically and morally, and then to concentrate on it to the virtual exclusion of all others. The result of such a perverted moralism can only be to elevate to the status of hero leaders who badly wanted hanging, and to bolster the sham rectitude of states that will be all the more prone to murder since history “proves” that they are the “good” states.

Ralph Raico (1936-2016) was Professor Emeritus in European history at Buffalo State College and a senior fellow of the Mises Institute. He was a specialist on the history of liberty, the liberal tradition in Europe, and the relationship between war and the rise of the state. He was the author of The Place of Religion in the Liberal Philosophy of Constant, Tocqueville, and Lord Acton, and his last book was Great Wars and Great Leaders: A Libertarian Rebuttal.

Notes

[1] Washington Post, Oct. 23, 1988.

[2] Robert Conquest in The Independent (London), Dec. 5, 1988.

[3] New York Times, March 25, 1989.

[4] New York Times, Feb. 4, 1989. Stephen F. Cohen, “The Survivor as Historian: Introduction,” in Anton Antonov-Ovseyenko, The Time of Stalin: A Portrait in Tyranny, trans. George Saunders (New York: Harper and Row, 1980), p. vii.

[5] Robert Conquest, The Great Terror: Stalin’s Purge of the Thirties (Macmillan: London, 1968), p. 533. See also note 2.

[6] Ibid., p. 213.

[7] Nolte’s first essay to draw fire appeared originally in English: “Between Myth and Revisionism? The Third Reich in the Perspective of the 1980s,” in an important volume edited by H.W. Koch, Aspects of the Third Reich (London: Macmillan, 1985), pp. 17–39. Some of Nolte’s contributions to the debate, as well as those of many other writers, appear in the useful collection, “Historikerstreit”: Die Dokumentation der Kontroverse um die Einzigartigkeit der nationalsozialistischen Judenvernichtung (Munich: Piper, 1987). Nolte’s Der europaeische Buergerkrieg, 1917–1945. Nationalsozialismus und Bolschewismus (Frankfurt/ Main: Propylen, 1987) has not yet been translated. His rebuttals to some of the attacks are contained in his Das Vergehen der Vergangenheit. Antwort an meine Kritiker im sogenannten Historikerstreit (2nd. ed., Ullstein: Berlin, 1988).

[8] The Nazis were responsible, of course, for the deaths of millions of non-Jews, especially Poles and Soviet prisoners of war. The Jewish genocide, however, has been the focus of discussion.

[9] Robert Conquest, Kolyma:The Arctic Death Camps (New York: Viking, 1978), pp. 15–16.

[10] Paul Johnson, Modern Times (New York: Harper and Row, 1983), pp. 304–305. Johnson does not, however, provide any relevant sources for this claim.

[11] Nick Eberstadt, Introduction to Iosif G. Dyadkin, Unnatural Deaths in the U.S.S.R., 1928–1954 (New Brunswick, N.J.: Transaction Books, 1983), 4.

[12] See Arno J. Mayer,Why Did the Heavens Not Darken? The “Final Solution” in History (New York: Pantheon, 1988), passim.

[13] Bertrand Russell, The Autobiography of Bertrand Russell, II, 1914–1944 (Boston: Uttle, Brown, 1968), p. 172.

[14] See note 12.

[15] Mayer concludes that Hitler’s attack on the Soviet Union was not intended as a step toward “world domination,” but was the culmination of his plans to provide Germany with the Lebensraum, or living-space, which he, in his archaic way, believed was a prerequisite for German survival and prosperity.

[16] Daniel Jonah Goldhagen, “False Witness,” The New Republic, April 17, 1989, pp. 39–44. A fair statement of the differences between intentionalist and functionalists can be found in Saul Friedlander’s introduction to Gerald Fleming’s Hitler and the Final Solution(Berkeley: University of California Press, 1982).

[17] Notes would, presumably, have added to the book’s length, but the author could have compensated by omitting his rehashings of well-known political and military history in the period.

[18] J. M. Spaight, cited in J.F.C. Fuller, The Second World War, 1939–45. A Strategical and Tactical History (London: Eyre and Spottiswoode, 1954), p. 222.

[19] Max Hastings, Bomber Command (New York: Dial, 1979), p. 352.

[20] Fuller, The Second World War, p. 228.

[21] Hastings,Bomber Command. The best short introduction to the subject is the review of Hastings’s book by the gifted London journalist Geoffrey Wheatcroft, The Spectator, Sept. 29, 1979, reprinted in Inquiry, Dec. 24, 1979. It was the only review Inquiry ever reprinted.

[22] Anne Armstrong, Unconditional Surrender. The Impact of the Casablanca Policy upon World War II (1961; repro. Westport, Conn.: Greenwood, 1974), p. 76. On the Morgenthau Plan, see ibid., pp. 68–77. For the text of the plan, see Alfred de Zayas, Nemesis at Potsdam. The Anglo-Americans and the Expulsion of the Germans. Background, Execution, and Consequences (London: Routledge and Kegan Paul, 1977), pp. 229–232.

[23] Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago, 1918–1956. An Experiment in Literary Investigation, I-II, trans. Thomas P. Whitney (New York: Harper and Row, 1973), p. 259n.

[24] Ibid., pp. 259–260.

[25] Alfred de Zayas, Nemesis at Potsdam, p. xix.

[26] Ibid.

[27] Ibid., p. 123.

[28] Many of Dwight MacDonald’s essays critical of the Allies’ conduct of the war were collected in his Memoirs of a Revolutionist (New York: Farrar, Straus, and Cudahy, 1957).

[29] William Henry Chamberlin, America’s Second Crusade (Chicago: Henry Regnery, 1950), pp. 304, 310, 312.

[30] G.M. Tamas, “The Vanishing Germans,” The Spectator, May 6, 1989.

[31] The Spectator, June 10, 1989.

[32] On the British hunger blockade and its likely effect in helping shape Nazi brutality, see my contribution, “The Politics of Hunger: A Review,”The Review of Austrian Economics, III (1988), pp. 253–259.

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  1. Leon says:

    “If glasnost proceeds and if the whole truth about the Lenin and Stalin eras comes to light, educated opinion in the West will be forced to reassess some of its most deeply cherished views.”

    If only that could be true. Education in the West is dead.

    • Agree: Alfred, dc.sunsets, Bubba
    • Replies: @dc.sunsets
  2. Holocaust I get.

    It’s HoloBoast that I can’t stand.

    Jewish Glob shouldn’t Shoah-boat and invoke their tragedy as moral shield for all the bad things they do.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Richard B
    , @HallParvey
  3. “There was a time in America when well-known writers felt an obligation to remind their fellow citizens of the criminal misdeeds of their government, even against Germans.”

    Since most Americans no longer read much, I reminded my fellow citizens of these criminal misdeeds with this short documentary:

    • Agree: Saggy
    • Replies: @eah
  4. PeterMX says:

    50,000 men, women and children deliberately murdered in 5 days. Reality, not some British/Soviet/American/Jewish lie about soap and lampshades or 27 million Soviets.

    • Agree: Zumbuddi
    • Replies: @Just passing through
  5. darwin taught the euroman that he was an intelligent monkey who ought to dispense with inferior competing monkeys. marx took the schooling further by claiming it was the working monkeys who ought to get rid of their chains and exploiters.
    intellectual groundwork laid, entet hitler and stalin. 19th c. stupidity is responsible for 20th c. crimes. what will 20th c. degeneracy bring forth in 21st c.?? are we headed towards omnicide, or get lucky with another Mikhail Gorbachev level surprise? Holy Virgin Mother of God, pray for us, amen.

  6. Rebel0007 says:

    The truth is that the government and corporations treat me like a gold fish. I don’t know how many people they are doing this to, since I am not in the predator class. I do not even know where this underground organized terrorist crime ring extracts this information. I only know that
    they have destroyed my life by stalking, illegal surveillance, break ins, theft, intellectual property theft,intimidation, electronic harrassment, hacking, and Nazi type fascist and sadistic medical treatment.

    You can believe me, or the government and corporations and predators that racketeered off of the controlled demolition of the World Trade Towers and bombing of the Pentagon.

    Just another day of sadistic American fascism!

  7. conatus says:

    R.J. Rummel has written many books on Democide, the murder of people by their government.
    “Rummel estimated the total number of people killed by all governments during the twentieth century at 212 million, and he estimated that 148 million were killed by communist regimes from 1917 to 1987.[2][3] To give some perspective on these numbers, Rummel pointed out that all domestic and foreign wars during the twentieth century killed in combat around 41 million. His figures for Communist regimes are higher than those given by most other scholars, which range from 60 to 100 million.[4] In his last book, Rummel increased his estimate to over 272 million innocent, non-combatant civilians who were murdered by their own governments during the twentieth century.[5”
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolph_Rummel

    He has a web page too
    https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/PERSONAL.HTM

    Bloomberg thinks he has saved so many lives with his nonsmoking crusade but eventually he’ll give them all back with his gun confiscation crusade.

    • Agree: Johnny Walker Read
    • Replies: @JackOH
    , @Franz
    , @Daniel Rich
  8. Karel says:

    The author makes just another attempt to whitewash the Germans who were throughout centuries never particularly friendly neighbours to Czechs and Poles, trying to extinguish their culture and language. They succeded almost completely with lusatian Sorbs and some are still rather annoyed that the they miserably failed in their murderous mission in Czechoslovakia and Poland. As most Germans in 1938 took on German citicenship, only a fool can be surprised that they were expelled from postwar Czechoslovakia as any traitors would logically be, who collaborate with an enemy. Any state will and should deal with traitors similarly and those who do not believe it should peruse pertinent laws in the UK. Juggling with millions of Stalins victims, does not resurect the killed millions of Nazi terror, nor does it make the suffering of their relatives any more palatable.

    • Replies: @Marcali
    , @Wally
    , @Emslander
    , @Rurik
  9. Forgive them, Father, for they know not what they do?

  10. GMC says:

    Are we to believe that maybe the Soviet Union were the recipients of all those missing Aktion Reinhardt camp – transients? Is that what the beginning of the article is trying to say ? This would be a lot of damning information , to have – over – on someone else’s country. Even 70+ years ago.

  11. Is Jewish Holocaust revisionism/”denial” only a phenomenon because of how certain Jewish groups have weaponised this event as a political club? Thus those at the receiving end like to get and prove it never happened the way standard narrative says it happened?

    Many Holocaust revisionists like to present themselves as rational thinkers who discard emotions and like to see the whole evidence, they want to see evidence of mass graves, orders by authorities regarding mass murder and autopsy reports, yet when it comes to the likes of the Holodomor and other alleged Soviet atrocities, they just swallow it whole and don’t even question the numbers or version of events.

    Holodomor denial is illegal in Ukraine, you can be prosecuted under the Gayssot act in France for doing the same. Why make denying something that so obviously happened illegal? Surely the truth does not fear investigation?

    • Troll: Tlotsi
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    , @Wally
  12. Anonymous[317] • Disclaimer says:

    Robert Conquest? That’s just sad at this point.

  13. Anon[713] • Disclaimer says:

    There is the taboo against truth, spread and respected worldwide, except in the private space of some labeled “crazy” which the world will reject if they try to do something in it.

    And then there is the taboo against one, or two or three, truths among millions and billiions of truths, which some columnists at the Unz Review are chosen as the only ones to think about.

    The “truth” in the official, widely taught and accepted accounts of World War II, the Twin Towers attack, … is the same as it is in the average “testimony” of the average “wife” to a divorce court.
    There too, they all agree to pretend depositions and testimonies have to do with reality.

  14. Alfred says:

    Some 200–300,000 persons were killed at Bykovnia, according to unofficial estimates

    That is 6km from the centre of Kiev. Or 1/3 of distance to airport. For me, that really brings it home. 🙁

    • Replies: @GMC
  15. mcohen says:

    Lets not be deceived by holocaust history revionism

    David irving went to jail.He had the best lawyers but he was jailed.Those are the facts

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/feb/20/austria.thefarright

    • LOL: Alfred
    • Replies: @sally
    , @flashlight joe
  16. Half Back says:

    Look i didn’t read it all, however I am persuaded that the large numbers in the millions are fake. If such large numbers died why did the census figures keep going up until ww2. Some say Stalin killed 800,000 only . I have not done much investigation however if the census figures are true and as latest archived information has come to hand then millions died can be anther propaganda do over.

  17. Thank you for reprinting this magnificent essay. It demonstrates by example the profound seriousness and high moral purpose to which historiography can rise. It is as starkly pertinent today as it was when published 30 years ago — or moreso. The rarity of the sort of searing witness evinced in the quotations of Anne O’Hare McCormick and G.M. Tamas shows up most contemporary writing on these subjects as self-defiled, a vicious compound of tribalist fanaticism and craven obsequiousness. Bravo.

  18. herman says:

    https://wiki2.org/en/Drang_nach_Osten

    read –before you decided who is guilty of what.

    Drnag nach Osten happend long before 19 century.

    no one wants to admit German atrocities East of Oder river for centuries.

  19. gotmituns says:

    I read a book about a German POW in Scotland who said that when the Brits were trying to denazify them, they were shown stacks of dead bodies, supposed to be holocaust victims but a German soldier in the audience recognized the pictures as those of German civilian dead in Dresden. He was quickly ushered out by the guards and sent to another camp.

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    , @Trinity
    , @Anonymous
  20. Looks like this article was written almost thirty years ago. And it’s only gotten worse.

    (((They))) count on each generation forgetting the looser culture of the previous generation (pickaninny Warner Bros. cartoons, no Jews or blacks allowed at country clubs).

    Given our current propaganda trajectory, just imagine the truth and freedom we’ll enjoy in 2049.

  21. @Just passing through

    Why make denying something that so obviously happened illegal? Surely the truth does not fear investigation?

    A mentally disabled child could answer this question.

    It obviously did not happen, otherwise there was no need to criminalize research and speech. Even your defense lawyer goes to jail if he does his job properly, defending with facts.
    As said, a toddler could answer it.

    It did not happen.

  22. Marcali says:
    @Karel

    The problem is, that the Communists killed before, after and many more people than the Nazis.
    While their ideology was eminently exportable while the Nazi’s wasn’t.

  23. Anon[398] • Disclaimer says:

    Shut up and remember the 6 bazillion

  24. @anno nimus

    Who cares, Europeans had everything to sustain life and prosper in their own lands, which they conquered after the glaciers retreated, unfortunately, despite looking very much alike, they couldn’t stop slaughtering eachother wholesale and thus killing the bravest and strongest, which is why you are left with what you see nowadays.

    All this talk of hu-white unity is too little and too late. Karma is a bitch

  25. @Marcali

    When will revisionists start examining the alleged Soviet atrocities with the same attention to detail and analysis they give to the alleged Jewish Holocaust at the hands of the Nazis?

    • Replies: @ivegotrythm
  26. Herald says:
    @anno nimus

    I would strongly suggest that Vladimir Putin has been the 21st century saviour to date. What happens when he bows out of public life should concern us all.

    • Agree: Realist, Rurik
  27. Nazism is the mirror image of Judaism.

    The Red Cross had boots on the ground, said that 270k jews perished in the war, as compared to 55 MILLION gentiles that were slaughtered in the war.

  28. JackOH says:
    @conatus

    +1 on Rudy Rummel.

    I’d like to see the brutalities in Central and Eastern Europe circa 1919 onward treated in a temperate, comprehensive way. With the exception of interested ethnics, I know of no reasonably educated person who’s ever heard of Ante Pavelic, Stalin’s use of captured Polish POWs, the expulsion of ethnic Germans, etc. Just seems to me that without context, you simply can’t make informed judgments about historical events, and you may be crippled in making today’s policy decisions.

  29. “In fact, all great states in this century have been killer states, to a greater or lesser degree.”

    Indeed.

    And I wonder how many Americans know the postwar record of their own country in the world?

    One-fifth of the entire population of North Korea exterminated in three years of carpet bombing? That’s a Pentagon number, too.

    How many Americans know their country conducted a true holocaust in Vietnam? 3 million Vietnamese killed. Carpet bombing. Napalm. Early cluster bombs.

    A huge legacy of landmines and Agent Orange left behind to keep killing and maiming for decades.

    At least a million died in the “killing fields” of Cambodia. The United states had an important role in bringing that about. A neutral government was constantly pressured and harassed and secretly bombed and periodically invaded on a small scale until it collapsed and the Khmer Rouge took over.

    The US then did not lift a finger to stop the butchery by the Khmer Rouge.

    In Iraq, the illegal US invasion killed about a million people and so set back one of the most advanced Arab states that it still has not recovered. Millions still lack such basics as clean water and electricity.

    Libya was the best-run government on the continent of Africa. Everything from clean water to good education was provided free to its people, and the country was kept at peace. Today it is in ruins, and fighting over its future yet continues.

    The horrors of the proxy war in Syria, the covert work of the US and some allies, has killed over 600,000 people and destroyed great parts of a truly beautiful and historic land.

    The millions of refugees that came close to de-stabilizing parts of Europe were the result of people desperately seeking safety from America’s bombing in its destructive series of Mideast wars.

    In the coup in Indonesia after Sukarno, there was a huge bloodbath as anyone even thought to be a communist had his throat cut. The rivers were said to run red with blood from hundreds of thousands of victims thrown in.

    During the horror, the US State Department burned up the phone lines submitting the names of communists or communist suspects.

    Apart from the big events, there were just dozens of coups and interventions and dirty wars over the postwar period – from those in Iran and Guatemala to Chile and Ukraine and Bolivia – all democratic governments overthrown, just ones the US didn’t like.

    The suppurating wounds of Palestine never stopped flowing over many decades, and America never really has lifted a finger to stop what it could so easily have stopped.

    That was some of the bloody work America busied itself with during its “golden age” of postwar dominance, the period of “the American Dream,” while American families watched Ozzie and Harriet and Mary Tyler Moore and Seinfeld and Friends.

  30. Consider the first two words of Germany’s National Socialist party name, and reflect on what is today placing the survival of life on this planet in jeopardy –international capitalism- and think about it for a while. And why the mortal enemies, western imperialism and Soviet communism, found common cause in erasing the existential threat to their exploitive systems that was the Third Reich.

    Lenin vainly boasted he would trick the capitalists into selling him “the rope we will hang them with” but Hitler’s unique genius was that he did this, scammed the One Percenters into financing his revolution against them. While German national socialism is conflated today with Mussolini’s doctrine that fascism is corporate control of the state, what Hitler actually said in a 1933 Reichstag policy announcement is quite different: “Great are the tasks of the national Government in the sphere of economic life. Here all action must be governed by one law: the people does not live for business, and business does not exist for capital; but capital serves business, and business serves the people.” Add to this his remarks from 1940, “we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions.”

    German political theory rested on placing the needs of the national community above the selfish whims of the individual. In so doing it gave to otherwise alienated individuals the sense of common purpose and connection to others that are so vital to mental health. And only an authoritarian state can claim and wield the power necessary to undo the damage that capitalism created.

    This was effective, practical socialism, as it was first formulated in the 19th century, purged, ironically, of Marxism’s destructive fantasies about international solidarity, never-ending class rivalry, and the abolition of private property. Soviet communism was doomed to fail because of these mismeasures of human nature, but the German system would have lasted a thousand years, had the imperial powers not waged the most savage war in all history to destroy it.

    • Agree: utu
  31. Since this article was first published twenty years ago the world has been moving steadily towards another holocaust – nuclear holocaust. That many millions were “killed before the before the United States and Britain welcomed the Soviet Union as their ally in June 1941” should come as no surprise. Power (manifested as interest) has been present in every conflict of the past – no exception. It is the underlying motivation for war. Other cultural factors might change, but not power. Interest cuts across all apparently unifying principles: family, kin, nation, religion, ideology, politics – everything. We unite with the enemies of our principles, because that is what serves our interest. As this article shows all sides are capable of atrocities. The ghosts of history are not being listened to. The coming world war will be the greatest holocaust of them all.
    https://www.ghostsofhistory.wordpress.com/

  32. Anon[421] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s said that to the victor go the spoils of war.
    Also said is that the victor gets to write the history of war.
    Therefore the spoils are material wealth and, equally importantly, the ownership of the narrative.

  33. Rebel0007 says:

    It is more important to focus on the wars that are currently taking place, in my opinion. Yes, it is also important to study history, but debating wars that ended in 1943 are not going to help the people that are dying in wars today.

    • Replies: @Germanicus
    , @NoseytheDuke
  34. Jamesbbkk says: • Website
    @gotmituns

    Do you have the title and author?

  35. @Rebel0007

    but debating wars that ended in 1943 are not going to help the people that are dying in wars today

    This is an assumption that lacks any proof, it is terribly wrong, given there is no formal peace treaty ending WWII, and the UN enemy state clauses still present in the current UN charter. 1943 is wrong additionally, since official narrative terminates WWII 8. May 1945.

    “Never again” sends US troops constantly to new military adventures for Jewry, and US citizens lose their jobs if they use their god given right to question the official narrative, and there is an intention to criminalize speech in the US, like in the Soviet Union.

  36. Rebel0007 says:

    History is a rabbit hole. No time like the present to change what is taking place today.

    • Replies: @Craig Nelsen
  37. Durruti says:

    In the coup in Indonesia after Sukarno, there was a huge bloodbath as anyone even thought to be a communist had his throat cut. The rivers were said to run red with blood from hundreds of thousands of victims thrown in.
    During the horror, the US State Department burned up the phone lines submitting the names of communists or communist suspects.
    Apart from the big events, there were just dozens of coups and interventions and dirty wars over the postwar period – from those in Iran and Guatemala to Chile and Ukraine and Bolivia – all democratic governments overthrown, just ones the US didn’t like.
    The suppurating wounds of Palestine never stopped flowing over many decades, and America never really has lifted a finger to stop what it could so easily have stopped.
    That was some of the bloody work America busied itself with during its “golden age” of postwar dominance, the period of “the American Dream,” while American families watched Ozzie and Harriet and Mary Tyler Moore and Seinfeld and Friends.

    This excellent comment by John Chuckman had to be repeated.

    A separate Point – referring directly to the article by Ralph Raico:

    1. The 60 million figure, or the 41 million figure, as well as other figures for Russians supposedly massacred by Stalin and his henchmen, figures cited by Mr. Raico, just do not add up.

    2. At the beginning of World War I, Russia had a population of 126 million.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Empire_Census

    Just before World War II, in 1937, the Russian population is estimated to have been 162 million.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Census_(1937)

    I am using the same source for both figures. And Wikipedia is not controlled by Russia.

    One of the major excuses German Generals and German and American Historians offer for their defeat by the Russian Army in WW II, is that they were overwhelmed by huge numbers of Red Army soldiers. The other excuse for their defeat is the Hot (I mean the Cold) weather. You name the Historians of Operation Barbarossa, and there are many; All cite the ready availability of huge numbrs of Russian soldiers to defend their country.

    Clearly, the claims that the Soviet government slaughtered its own people – in vast numbers – just do not add up. Numerous other sources for that claim, advance the unproven/undocumented Hollywood 6 million Holocaust – (er. excuse my momentary loss of concentration – we are discussing the impossible figures for the so-called Soviet ‘massacre‘ of between 30-60 million of their own people). Durruti takes another sip of his morning coffee!

    Read my lips! Pay attention! The fantastical 60 million, or 41 million, or even 30 million (the author offers these varied Russian Government massacre totals, as he cannot document his own thesis), are simply impossible.

    At the beginning of WW II, Germany had 89 million people. The German army in 1941 was unencumbered by any resistance from the West. France, Norway, Benelux, were theirs. Even with the help of 1 million Rumanian, and 1 million Hungarian, and 400,000 Italian Troops, and the entire Finnish Army, the Germans collided with a populous and hard fighting Russian People and Army, and had their Asses handed to them.

    [If 126million Russia in 1914 had 60 million of its people eradicated – between the World Wars – then -how much population remained? 66 million? 84 million? Germans alone outnumbered the Russian population? Huh? And they complain they were greatly outnumbered by Russian troops? Huh? The numbers cited by these ‘writers’ not only Mr. Raico, – just do not add up!]

    The Western Allies only returned to Europe by June 1944, and a tad earlier in Italy. By then, the Russian army was in Poland, and entering Prussia.

    The Holohoax, (excuse, the Russian communist Bad-Hoax) is clearly false. It does not add up. Neither Hoax adds up.

    I might write more extensively on this topic; Naah! I’m not wanted here. This Anarchist refuses to swallow the official mainstream Zionist media swill (wherever it is offered).

    You might peruse:

    :or a large number of anti-communist British & American military historians, who will, as with Mr. Clark, note the ‘huge’ number of Russian Army Troops, and claim that the German soldiers killed 650 (attempt at humor here), Russian Soldiers for every one of their ‘Heroes’ who fell. Note: And all these ‘Historians’ agree on one thing. The Russian army defeated the German and their allies’ Armies, and entered Berlin, Vienna, Buda Pest, Warsaw, Prague, Belgrade, and Miami Beach-(WHAT?). The Russians even flattened the Japanese army in Mongolia-1939, and had enough manpower remaining, to do the same in Manchuria, 1945.

    Final Note: Kindly do not claim me as a supporter of Djugashvili. If the word gets around, I will be expelled from the Anarchist Collective.

    Durruti my alias (used for cover), is Dr. Peter J. Antonsen

  38. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    Nolte’s thesis is that it was the Communists who introduced into modern Europe the awful fact and terrifying threat of the killing of civilians on a vast scale

    Including being the ones who introduced to the world of using vehicle exhaust to kill those stuck inside a delivery van.
    Not the Nazis, but the Jew Bolsheviks of the USSR.

    Alexander Solzhenitsyn:

    “The gas wagon (dushegubka) was invented and used by the Soviet secret police NKVD in the late 1930s during the Great Purge. The vehicle had an air-tight compartment for victims, into which exhaust fumes were transmitted while the engine was running. The victims were gassed with carbon monoxide, resulting in death by monoxide poisoning and suffocation.

    “Isay Berg’s method was to strip the victims naked, tether them, plug their mouths and throw them into a closed truck [See top right and bottom images below]. Each van was disguised from the outside as a bread van. During transportation exhaust gases were piped into the body of the van. When delivered to the farthest (execution) ditch those arrested were already dead.

    https://barnesreview.org/soviets-use-henry-fords-trucks-homicidal-mobile-gas-chambers/

    But we won’t hear about that, not in the USA, we’re too busy cheering on the destruction of our nation that is in service to the homicidal maniacs of Israel.

    Now that I have committed a grievous sin against the most Holy Holocaust, I shall get myself to the nearest ADL re-education center and beg forgiveness and hope they don’t transfer me in a van to my place of punishment.

    • Replies: @Johnny Walker Read
  39. aandrews says:

    “One Old Bolshevik, Zinoviev, spoke openly as early as 1918 of the need to eliminate 10,000,000 of the people of Russia.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grigory_Zinoviev
    “Grigory Yevseyevich Zinoviev, born Hirsch Apfelbaum….”

  40. anonselly says:

    I;ve always wondered if the United States wasn’t tricked into building a bomb it didn’t need so that it could be stolen and given to Jewish Russia.

    [MORE]

    Seriously, economic freedcom? Do people really need to be told what that is or that they should be able to buy things they want? Socialism isn’t sooooo bad when it’s agreeable to the people because they are a people and like to help one another in times of need. Socialism sucks when it’s compulsory and the people you are forced to help aren’t your own people and mostly they don’t like you, don’t feel the same way about things as you do. It sucks when you are forced to finance with taxes people in far off lands who hate you, it sucks when you have to finance your own displacement. Socialism sucks when the government hates you and wants to wipe you out. It sucks when your endlessly tricked by psychological deception. Socialism sucks in endless brainwashing to force us all to live together when most don’t like each other and don’t have any desire to help one another, we aren’t family and we aren’t a people, we’re strangers being robbed.
    Libertarianism too is an ecomomic crock of shit. Liberatarianism allows more strangers with money to buy everything in your homeland of your people leaving you with nothing. Talki about waking up homeless and pennyless. At least the poor squirrel that is born on the earth can build a home, find food and water for itself and it’s family, unlike the human who is forced to live in societal servitude or beg for their esistance. You have to be what your told, go t0 their schools, work in their jobs, be smart the way they say or die. Where is the freedom in any of that? Where is your land and your people? Where are the bonds that hold you together, where you would fight alongside one another to protect your family and people?
    In Libertatian thought your could be born but no allowed the the basic necessities of life, water food shelter, because someone could buy it and deny it. Why now would someone want to be a libertarian, when us poor saps have already paid for the roads so that the government could sell them. In libertarian economic freedom you could be born but not allowed to move off your space because everything around you is bought and you can’t trespass upon it. It’s no small wonder that libertarians align themselves mostly with the left, because they are so good with civil rights as they would usually live to point out. Most economic theories not just liberal ones tend to have more laws and litigation than truly free societies. Those societies have large volumes of laws covering everything, like we do today and like the Talmud in the past. Unlike God which only gave out Ten Commandments.

    • Replies: @Truth3
  41. Truth3 says:

    Satan is the Archenemy of Truth.

    Jews are the Archenemy of Truth.

    Ergo…

    Satan = Jews.

  42. Wally says: • Website
    @Priss Factor

    – Except that the marketed “holocaust” narrative is simply impossible, it did not happen and their is no proof it did, in spite of author Raico’s casual, unverifiable, and utterly refuted acceptance.

    – As demonstrated, we do have immense human remains of massive Communist atrocities, yet we do not have the millions upon millions of ‘holocausted’ human remains that are claimed to exist to this day in known locations. Those claimed “holocaust” remains simply do not exist.

    Don’t take the bait of condemning “HoloBoast” while leaving in place the impossible claims of the fake “holocaust” narrative. That’s a sucker’s game.

    – As Ron Unz says: “Does anybody seriously believe something so totally ridiculous?”

    – Why do so many Jews want millions of Jews to be dead?

    – And why have Jews been marketing ‘6m dead Jews’ since at last 1823?

    American Pravda: Holocaust Denial, by Ron Unz: https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-holocaust-denial/
    Babi Yar: The alleged Einsatzgruppen ‘Killings’
    https://www.unz.com/article/babi-yar/

  43. GeeBee says:
    @Observator

    What a marvellous summation of the truth about Adolf Hitler, National Socialism and the Third Reich. It took me decades finally to confront the reality and accept the truth of what the uniquely criminal, pointless and savage undertaking we know as World War Two actually was. As Revilo P Oliver often remarked, Germany was cruelly extirpated for the ‘crime’ of wanting to have a country of its own. In other words, one that existed in harmony and common purpose to serve the ends of its own people, without subventing what in practical terms we might think of as the obligatory ‘protection racket’ money payable to the Financial International. For make no mistake – the fate of those who refuse this protection money payable to ‘the usual suspects’ is to be obliterated without mercy.

    At the end of a remarkable and never to be repeated twelve years, our great Siegfried was cruelly slain. Not by Hagen – the son of ‘die schwarze Alberich’ – but by a foul convocation of dissembling rogues, who having got their way inevitably consigned us wretches to live our lives in ‘The Twilight of the Gods’.

    Rest in peace noble wolf.

  44. Wally says:
    @Karel

    Yawn.

    – Poland’s seizure of German land, it’s threats against Lithiania, it’s invasion of Czechoslovakia & seizure of Czech land, and it’s massive atrocities against Germans makes them the murderous one.

    – The Sudetenland was rightfully Germany. It’s population overwhelmingly favored being part of Germany. Chamberlain was right.

    – Germany was asked for help by Czechoslovakia’s Hacha.

    – There were no “killed millions of Nazi terror”and you have no roof there was.
    You obviously watch too many “Hollywood” movies & TV.
    Time to grow up.

    • Replies: @Steve Naidamast
    , @Karel
  45. The fundamental identity of communism is hatred of God, externalised in violence, destruction, death and enslavement of men. As Marx said in excerpt of his poems:

    I have power within my youthful arms
    To clench and crush you with tempestuous force.
    See this sword? The prince of darkness sold it to me.

    If there is a something which devours,
    I’ll leap within it, though I bring the world to ruins.
    The world which bulks between me and the abyss,
    I will smash to pieces with my enduring curses.
    Then I will be able to walk triumphantly,
    Like a god, through the ruins of their kingdom.
    Every word of mine is fire and action,
    My breast is equal to that of the Creator.

    The question is, has anything changed in Russia or are the old party hard liner’s still in charge?

    ‘You know that I, like millions of Soviet citizens, over 20 million, was a member of the Communist Party of the USSR and not only was I a member of the party but I worked for almost 20 years for an organization called the Committee for State Security,’ Putin said, referring to the KGB ‘I was not, as you know, a party member by necessity’ he said. “I liked communist and socialist ideas very much and I like them still.”(3)

    https://web.archive.org/web/20190804183555/https://fitzinfo.wordpress.com/2019/07/07/the-perestroika-deception-behind-the-mask-part-i/

  46. So Hitler in fact stopped the biggest mass slaughter in human history?

    “By everyone’s account, most of the victims were killed before the United States and Britain welcomed the Soviet Union as their ally in June 1941. Yet by then, the evidence concerning at least very widespread Communist killings was available to anyone willing to listen.”

  47. Agent76 says:

    “If the opposition disarms, well and good. If it refuses to disarm, we shall disarm it ourselves.” Joseph Stalin

    Innocents Betrayed – The True Story of Gun Control

    Warning: Graphic Violence. This disturbing video clearly demonstrates the consequences of centralizing government power and disarming citizens. Genocide always follows, leaving millions of innocent victims dead.

    “The death of one man is a tragedy. The death of millions is a statistic.” Joseph Stalin

    • Agree: Johnny Walker Read
  48. Truth3 says:
    @anonselly

    Strategically…

    The atomic bomb could ONLY be a liability, risk and danger to the United States.

    It always amazed me that nobody in the USA in the period 1939-1944 seemed to understood that fact.

    But as JEWS were the ones pushing for the bomb… I guess that is not so hard to see.

  49. @Wally

    Care to tell us where these remains of 100 gorillion killed by Communism reside?

    • Replies: @Wally
  50. Mike P says:
    @Just passing through

    Do it again,Bomber Harris

    Oh, look, another Zio troll.

  51. aandrews says:
    @GeeBee

    “…obligatory ‘protection racket’ money payable to the Financial International.”

    • Replies: @J. Alfred Powell
  52. @GeeBee

    What tosh, he wanted Lebensraum and you know it, he flouted international diktat after diktat and the Allied leaders basically let him, he built up an air force, didn’t pay back the protection racket, retook the Rhineland, brought in the Deutchvolk of Austria and Sudetenland into the Reich, and nobody did anything of significance to stop him.

    As far as I can see, Hitler was crucial in he destruction of European world supremacy, all non-Europeans around the world thank him for bankrupting and destroying Europe so much that they had to relinquish their colonies. Not to mention making real nationalism extremely taboo.

    • Replies: @aandrews
  53. Emslander says:
    @Karel

    Forcing German ethnics to leave the Sudetenland and other areas of slavic Europe was the same as if we were to drive all people of Hispanic ethnicity from South Texas or all Swedes from Minnesota.

    How would that be for enforcing uniformity of national identity?

  54. @Leon

    1. There is no “education” in Idiocracy.
    2. The dominant religion in the West, Universalism, brooks no apostasy. And Universalism’s sacraments and dogmas are a product of Orwell’s Ministry of Truth.

  55. @Observator

    You could say that it was the “real socialism” that many modern day pinkos like to talk about.

  56. Wally says:
    @Just passing through

    It is the “Holocau$t Industry” which claims that millions upon millions of Jew & ‘others’ remains exist in known locations, NOT REVISIONISTS.
    – And there’s nothing about the murders by Communists that defy laws of science like the absurd “holocaust” claims.

    – There are no claimed Communists mass murder sites anything like the alleged 900,000 claimed to have been gassed at Treblinka, plus an alleged additional 500,000 allegedly gassed at the other Reinhardt camps, all alleged to have been dumped into known mass graves at those sites. Yet there are no such remains.

    – The sites of massive killing like the mentioned Kuropaty and Katyn Forest have been excavated and the human remains displayed. Excavations of the alleged much, much larger “holocaust” sites have not found the claimed human remains, simple as that.

    – Revisionists are just the messengers, the absurd impossibility of the laughable ‘holocaust’ storyline is the message.

  57. The leaders of the West, Churchill and Roosevelt, were liars and murderers. They destroyed a bastion of European civilization, Germany, in alliance with the devil of Communism, as personified by Stalin the Mass Murdering Georgian who just so happened to speak perfect Yiddish. Hmmm.
    Look at Europe and America now. Who won in the long run? Was it freedom or communism? It appears that communism is winning.

    My grandfather was a navigator. He bombed Dresden. He never saw it coming when he joined the Air Force. He was betrayed. We all have been betrayed.

    They owe us everything. The historical debt will be paid.

  58. aandrews says:
    @Just passing through

    “…he wanted Lebensraum…flouted international diktat…didn’t pay back the protection racket…retook the Rhineland, brought in the Deutchvolk of Austria and Sudetenland into the Reich….”

    And Americans didn’t particularly give a shit…until the Pearl Harbor deception occurred.

    There’s a recording of American radio correspondents present at the Anschluss, being utterly flummoxed by the cheering Austrians and the wrecking of the narrative they were there to spin.

  59. utu says:
    @Observator

    “Great are the tasks of the national Government in the sphere of economic life. Here all action must be governed by one law: the people does not live for business, and business does not exist for capital; but capital serves business, and business serves the people.”

    “It is the Germany of social welfare, of social equality, of the elimination of class differences – that is what they hate.”

    The socio economic solutions of Hitler’s Germany are still worth studying now. Hitler’s socio economic solutions could pose a real challenge to the current socio-econocmic world order. Unfortunately they are studied the least and are shied away even by neo-Nazis and Hitler fanboys probably because they identify with the right where they caught the toxic virus of libertarianism. In other words what is interesting and potentially useful about Hitler is his leftism, his leftist populism.

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
    , @Wally
    , @Anon
  60. Trinity says:
    @gotmituns

    Interesting and TOTALLY BELIEVABLE. I will never forget what my uncle told me decades ago, it was sometime in the early Seventies and I was just a kid, not even a teen. My uncle served over in Europe during WWII and he encountered a German POW who told my uncle that one day Americans would realize that they fought on the wrong side. I often wonder how often my uncle thought about those prophetic words spoken to him by that German POW. It must have bothered him even then back in the early 1970’s. My uncle died in the early 2000s, so he did live long enough to see America become much worse than it was even in the 70’s ( which seem like Heaven compared to now.) I also wonder how many American and other allied troops along with the Jewish led Bolshevik Soviet regime participated in the rapes, murders, and torture of MILLIONS of Germans during and after the war. Maybe that is why Uncle Bob, or grandpappy Joe NEVER wanted to talk about the “Big One.”

  61. eah says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    When I first saw this on lewrockwell.com (more than 14 years ago now), its subtitle was “When collateral damage was the point” (which is still the URL) — the euphemism “collateral damage” was at the time known to most Americans, since it was often used in news reports about war in Iraq — so since most Americans now know what “collateral damage” is, show them this:

    Sabine Barnhart — Würzburg in Flames

  62. anonymous[307] • Disclaimer says:

    World population MUST rise and expose the common enemy, the Jewish mafia, at once. Nothing left for you dummies to stay silent. According to the latest news:

    [French parliament adopts controversial law linking anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism]

    http://www.rfi.fr/en/france/20191204-french-parliament-adopts-controversial-law-linking-anti-semitism-and-anti-zionism

    [Anti-Zionism is a form of antisemitism, France’s National Assembly determined on Tuesday, voting on a resolution calling on the government to adopt the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance’s definition of antisemitism.
    The motion proposed by lawmaker Sylvain Maillard of LREM, President Emmanuel Macron’s centrist party passed 154-72 in the parliament’s lower house.]

    This is SHAMEFUL and a black stain of face of humanity. What has left for you to stay idel, except your breathing.

    All must be united against the evil of our time. The enemy is brain washing our children from early ages to turn them as pro the criminal Tribe (a zionist jew) and YOU must resist.

    The people in western countries must force the fifth columnists, know as politicians, to make “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion” and “The Jews and Modern Capitalism: Werner Sombart”, as REQUIREMENT to graduate from elementary, high school, and university.
    No one can graduate without fulfillment of these requirements where should be taught and discussed.

    Politicians who are cooperating with the enemy must be forced out by any means. All options are on the table. When are you going to be serious?

    Everything in ‘the protocol’ and MORE has happened. Yet, the enemy is using the sell out and fifth column ‘politicians’ to make you silent using fabrication of the facts and events. To suffocate you by ‘hollowhaoax’ scenario. Time is running out.

    The puplic libraries in the US are the biggest propaganda centers, where the choice of the book end up on the shelves is determined by ZIONIST JEWS. Fight it back and demand information not propaganda and FAKE news.

    When you search for the ‘protocol’ at the Public libraries, the following comes:

    [The plot : the secret story of The protocols of the Elders of Zion / Will Eisner ; with an introduction by Umberto Eco]

    Why the propaganda centers, public libraries are allowed to brain washed people with this book, but the original book is MISSING. Do you think Americans are that dumb not be able to understand what is going on. Only a jew can tell you what to read?

    • Agree: Trinity
    • Replies: @anonymous
  63. GMC says:
    @Alfred

    Well, we certainly don’t expect any government to tell on themselves and if you discuss this with any Russian , like I did minutes ago { the wife} – don’t expect any intelligent debate. lol It’s strange how I can totally believe how evil my US Government has been, but other folks won’t accept it about their old Governments. I do remember a monument outside Kyiv for a slaughter of Ukrainians but it was done by WW II Nazis . But there are monuments/places all over Ukraine and West Russia. Spacibo

  64. CanSpeccy says: • Website

    If glasnost proceeds and if the whole truth about the Lenin and Stalin eras comes to light,… there will have to be a reevaluation of what it meant for the British and American governments to have befriended Soviet Russia in the Second World War and heaped fulsome praise on its leader.

    The West did not “befriend” Russia, the Western powers simply formed an alliance of convenience with what they knew, in the event of an allied victory, would become their greatest enemy. That the relationship was purely strategic is confirmed by Churchill’s 1941 statement that:

    If Hitler invaded hell I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  65. Anonymous[627] • Disclaimer says:
    @gotmituns

    In Breaking The Spell: The Holocaust Myth & Reality, Dr Nick Kollerstrom points out the paradox that the word ‘Holocaust’ had its ‘burnt offering’ origin in the Jewish assertion—well before there was any mention of Zyklon B—that 10,000 Jews were burned in trenches every day at Buchenwald and that thousands of babies there, screaming in pain and horror, were thrown into burning pits alive. This never happened as even Jews now admit, any more than four million died at Auschwitz or another two million died in other east Poland camps. Kollerstrom quotes someone, a Jew as I recall, pointing out the mystery that of the four million Jews living under Hitler’s reach, six million were killed and only five million were found living after the war.

    • Replies: @Anon
  66. oh mi god…it never stops..the vast evil that humans have done and the discovery and news about it..in the catastrophic life we live now and the tragedies that loom in that.

    despite all I thought I knew there is this. I thought there was nothing else to come out..that all surely is out now, and intimated, all traces of atrocity noted and there was no more. now this! what the hell are we…. humans? stunning!

    the rality around us is cler enough to work and live by rudimentary system or morals that addresses all aspect of life. nature is the template..the natural struture of existence from which all we need to know is contained in.

    Man should not kill…ample and obvious positives in that

    Diversity is life..also obvious: all human disisions are negative.
    life is evolutionary, dialectical and many sided: all humans know and can know, all we need to live

    comes out of our interactive realtionship with nature. all human wealth, health, safety is earned in relationship with nature our mother, underpinned by human labor, work, effort

    there is no human biological/racial superiroity, simply human ability to keep on adjusting and evolving successfuly to enviromental change. if there is great global warming white people may be toast unless they can re-aquire melanin: that would be a great environmenta challenge that at least part of the human species wont survive.
    so what about that then..are those the coordinates of existence and survival..yet we live as if those facts do not matter?

    we made gods in the sky and insinuated them between humans and nature..the most phantastic, ridiculous, pointless and cretinous creations possible..creations we are required to belive in..never to try to prove out or the sky gods may get angry at us and punish us for not believing automatically in that absolute nonsense. the flow of evil from god/religious creations and systems of belief are simply vast, endless, astounding..insanity that keeps on giving that we have made ourslves

    boy! am I tired of all this..pointless existence this. the truth is obvious now, easy. and to try to make a better life in line with truth we have proven, that is obvious, ending all divisions and the development of focus on collective survival which is the only way humans makes a chance of indefinite stay in nature, means punishment, pain, no job, starvation, homelessness and death for those who try

    what is the point of existence..when it risks your life just to be honest..simple honesty is the biggest of all existenctial human crimes in current human society. to cheat and steal, to be corrupt is advantageous ensuring that thge worst human types survive and thrive white the best are sacrificed.

    the Jews want this..they have faciliated and made this..and it existes with the majority of the world in compliance?

    let them have it I say.

    the human species is the way they want it anyway..and we all die anyway. so let them have it all…which would allow for a speed up in the elimination of humanity from nature. I am ready to walk away right now…this minute.

    I am truly tired of this life..this utterly reprehensible life. I have been no saint myself but the way I have come to discover life is comprehensively, which is way beyond anythng I have even been or done in corruption. there is no hope of better in it all…one cant grow old and dislimn a better future: one cant work for a better future

    its all pointless now!

    • Replies: @Daniel Rich
  67. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @utu

    Hitler’s socio economic solutions could pose a real challenge to the current socio-econocmic world order.

    Yeah. Hitler’s idea, following Maynard Keynes, was to print money and use it to build autobahnen, etc. Today’s globalist elite idea is to print money and give it by way of zero or sub zero interest loans to (a) corporations to acquire real, profit producing assets, or (b) to home buyers who have thereby driven land values in large urban areas sky high, creating in the process a massive intergenerational wealth gap, which fuels the current antifa, anti-white, anti-old resentment of youth both black and white.

    So yes, Hitler was a very bad man about whom nothing bad enough could be said. He threatened to undermine the whole crony capitalistic system of the Wonderful West.

    • LOL: utu
  68. Rurik says:
    @Karel

    in Czechoslovakia and Poland. As most Germans in 1938 took on German citicenship, only a fool can be surprised that they were expelled from postwar Czechoslovakia as any traitors would logically be, who collaborate with an enemy.

    The enemy of human dignity was and is Jewish supremacism, under the guise of Bolshevism or communism or a ‘worker’s paradise’ or whatever name you want to give to the Red Army rapists and Soviet thugs who enslaved half of Europe after the war was over.

    And it’s going on right now, today, in front of our/your eyes.

    Only now it’s called Zionism. But it doesn’t matter what the J-supremacism is called, so long as it terrorizes and mass-murders and enslaves millions, – while the occupied governments borrow, borrow, borrow away to buy the bombs and weapons that are used to slaughter the goyim – ‘such a deal!’

    You don’t have to be an historian to understand the founding principles of evil that has and continues to menace the people of this beleaguered planet, because as I said, all you need to do is open your eyes.

    The 20th century was a Jewish supremacist century. Untold scores of millions of their enemies, (as you call the German people), were burned alive. (such a deal!) Men, women and children, were deliberately murdered in the most horrific way imaginable, to sate an insatiable hatred for mankind that lingers in the foul recesses of the black J-supremacist heart.

    Were there no Bolsheviks, (starving millions of Ukrainians to death; as the most horrific method available to the J-supremacists at the time..), there would never have been the Nazis, who were a direct response to the existential threat of J-supremacism run amok in Russia. Adolf Hitler’s raison d’être was to stamp out the Bolshevik menace that threatened Germany with open calls for genocide.

    And it’s the exact same Jewish supremacy that is frothing its insane imperative to genocide Europa off the planet.

    These fiends breath genocide as their mother’s milk. What do y0u think the whole ‘multi-culti’, ‘celebrate diversity!’, Globohomo madness is all about, if not to genocide whitey once and for all?

    Duh!

    It’s deja vu all over again.

    Listen to any Jewish politician or academic or banker or casino owner, and they’ll nearly to a man and women, demand that Europe and N. America open their gates to unlimited armies of non-Western invaders, for the sole purpose of genocide. Duh, fucking duh.

    Seeing them for what they are and do today, why should we think it was any different back then, when they were running gulags all over Russia and genociding the best of the Polish people at the edge of a ditch in the forests.

    All you have to do is turn on your TV, and you’re going to see their id in action.

    Multi-culti, globohomo, in-your-face hatred for traditional European values and culture and especially European people.

    Look at France or England or Sweden today, and see your destiny, once these fiends have seized America, ‘by the hair of its head’ as surely as they had seized Russia in the last century.

    There won’t be one bastion left for whitey on planet earth, such is their unhinged, psychotic, supremacist hatred.

    Occasionally, i’ll check the Talmud Vision to see what ((Globohomo)) is promoting on any given day.

    This was who Iceland sent to the Miss Universe pageant as a representative of Iceland’s women.

    https://image.businessinsider.com/5de93d6b695b58393323de5b?width=600&format=jpeg&auto=webp

    Now she’s not bad looking, but she’s hardly a representative of Iceland, now is she?

    But they pick her to mollify the Globohomo, who has declared, (much like yourself), that fighting the Globohomo/Bolshevik/Soviet/Zionist fiend, is ‘beyond the Pale’, and that only an “enemy” would do so.

    • Agree: Saggy
  69. Trinity says:
    @Rurik

    GREAT POST, my friend and SPOT ON.

    • Agree: turtle
    • Disagree: SolontoCroesus
    • Replies: @Rurik
  70. anonymous[307] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    The following books are banned from the propaganda centers, Public Libraries, (may be universities as well) in the US. WHY?

    Werner Sombart “The Jews and Modern Capitalism”

    Sombart’s “The Jews and Modern Capitalism” is an effort similar to Max Weber’s historic study of the connection between Protestantism (especially Calvinism) and Capitalism, with Sombart documenting Jewish involvement in historic capitalist development.

    Or

    “The Secret Relationship between Blacks and Jews”

    The flowing link, “The Atlantic” does not dare to bring the FULL title, only “the secret relationship’, period. Shame on you propagandists

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1995/09/slavery-and-the-jews/376462/

    Or

    Martin’s book, The Jewish Onslaught: Despatches From the Wellesley Battlefront,

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  71. @Emslander

    Forcing German ethnics to leave the Sudetenland and other areas of slavic Europe was the same as if we were to drive all people of Hispanic ethnicity from South Texas or all Swedes from Minnesota.

    You think in the incredibly unlikely event of a war between Mexico and America (lets just assume there are no Hispanics in the armed forces), that Hispanic ethnicities wouldn’t be driven out of South Texas?

    German Ethnics were completely fine, even until when Hitler fulfilled their dream of being incorporated into the German Reich, but of course Hitler then sperged out and started invading left, right and centre.

    I still find it puzzling how White nationalists worship him, he was the single greatest force for freeing the non-European peoples from their bondage and crushing global European supremacy. Every single non-white should thank Hitler was all he did for their peoples.

  72. Wally says:
    @Just passing through

    The remains of those killed by Communists “reside” wherever the Communists put them.

    See my demolition of your desperate strawman / canard in comment #59.

    • Replies: @Just passing through
  73. Wally says:
    @utu

    This is the same utu who believes in the scientifically impossible ‘Nazi gas chambers’. LOL

    See Zionist utu demolished on his laughable attempt to support the absurd & impossible ‘Nazi gas chambers’:
    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-post-war-france-and-post-war-germany/
    comment #429

  74. @Just passing through

    Only Jews deny the Soviet atrocities and that because they are responsible.

  75. Skeptikal says:

    ” Hastings,Bomber Command. The best short introduction to the subject is the review of Hastings’s book by the gifted London journalist Geoffrey Wheatcroft, The Spectator, Sept. 29, 1979, reprinted in Inquiry, Dec. 24, 1979. It was the only review Inquiry ever reprinted.”

    I can’t find this online.
    Perhaps Ron Unz can provide this review at UR.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  76. Anon[237] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    On this thread it’s required to post the 20-second public service announcement from Pastor Steve Anderson on the Holocaust 🤣🤣🤣

    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=pastor+steve+anderson+holocaust

  77. Rurik says:
    @John Chuckman

    Apart from the big events, there were just dozens of coups and interventions and dirty wars over the postwar period – from those in Iran and Guatemala to Chile and Ukraine and Bolivia – all democratic governments overthrown, just ones the US didn’t like.

    The suppurating wounds of Palestine never stopped flowing over many decades, and America never really has lifted a finger to stop what it could so easily have stopped.

    That was some of the bloody work America busied itself with during its “golden age” of postwar dominance, the period of “the American Dream,” while American families watched Ozzie and Harriet and Mary Tyler Moore and Seinfeld and Friends.

    All true, but I feel you’re missing the mark.

    How many of those American families watching Mary Tyler Moore, had even one tiny shred of an idea what was going on in Palestine? Or Iran or Guatemala, or even Ukraine today?

    I have somewhat of an idea of what’s going on in Ukraine, but then I read Unz and other alternative sites and (perhaps most importantly) have the time to do so. Most Americans are far too busy paying the bills and raising families and paying their taxes to spend the time necessary to delve behind the curtain to see what’s going on. So they listen to the radio or watch ((media)) to see and ‘understand’ what’s going on. If you only get your information from the controlled media, you’d think that Ukraine is a NATO type of ally of the USA, and that Russia invaded and aggressively annexed her lands, and is today attacking Ukraine at every opportunity.

    The very opposite of the truth. Just as 95+ percent of Americans (and likely Europeans) also believe the opposite of the truth of Syria, and Iran, and Venezuela and Libya and on and on..

    What I’d like to know, is if the American people knew the truth, *then* what would they do?

    If the American people knew that Israel was created by Jewish supremacists by treachery and terrorism, by butchering British officers and slaughtering Palestinian Arabs wholesale; (both Muslim and Christian), so that deranged Jewish supremacists could steal their lands and property..

    .. well then would most Americans continue to be sanguine over the on-going genocide in Palestine?

    If,
    they knew?

    If most Americans knew that it wasn’t Putin who shot down the plane, but rather our ‘gallant’ allies, the Ukrainians, who dress like Nazis when they aren’t licking the boots of their Jewish supremacist oligarch Kolomoyskyi, (who referred to the hundreds of dead souls aboard the plane as “a trifle”).

    If, most Americans knew Ukraine was utterly corrupt, and the aggressor vis-a-vis Russia, would they still support American weapons going to the Ukrainian Nazis? (I doubt it).

    I figure about less than 1% of the American people knew what the CIA did in Iran in the fifties. I figure about one, or perhaps two percent of Americans know what happened even today, if you asked them.

    What you should understand, is that the ZUSA people (just like the Canadian people and Australians and Europeans and others), are lied to, 24-7, by their controlled (((media))).

    If you were to tell the American people that we need to bomb Syria in order to take the oil, how many would be OK with that? If significant percentages would, then I’d have to agree, that they’re beneath contempt. But I doubt significant percentages of them would. A few scum, no doubt, but not the overwhelming majority. And a lot of Americans simply hold their noses, when it comes to Trump’s egregious genuflecting to Israel, because they increasingly understand that the Deepstate is Zio-territory, and that Trump has to play ball with these rats. Also, they understand all too well the alternative, and that Hillary (or Pence or Pelosi, et al..) would be a catastrophe.

    So there are a lot of nuances that are dancing around in the American zeitgeist, but most of the people are not murderous thugs, hell bent on imperial hegemony. Most are just like Russians and Brits and Germans and Canadians, who’re trying to get by.

    The reason I point all that out is not to deflect blame from the American people, who do surely deserve some karmic comeuppance for their bovine apathy, (if nothing else), but more to the point, the reason I point out that it’s not the 99% that’s doing it, but rather the 1% who are.

    The ones for whom we should sharpen our,, umm – rhetoric.

    The Bushes and Blairs. The Cheneys and Clintons.

    These are the ones who know what going on in Iran and Ukraine, but tell nonstop lies about it all. Lies that are the only things that the American people are privy to.

    I listen to NPR, occasionally in the car, and every time they mention Russia vis-a-vis Ukraine, they tell bold-faced lies. Every time they mention Syria, they tell bald-faced lies. And this is across the entire media spectrum in this country, (and I assume in Canada and Europe as well).

    We have Europeans (and Canadians) on this board. Does the European media lie and say that Assad ‘attacked his own people’? Or, the truth; that the chemical attack was a false flag ruse by the West?

    My antenna tells me that they lie about it, just like the American media. Just like they most likely lie about ‘Putin shooting down the plane’. Or ‘Iran’s aggression’, or any of the endless zio-lies we’re all hectored with 24/7, in the states.

    Americans have been getting lied to by their media and government for at least over a hundred years. Young American men were suited up and ordered to rush into German machine guns in the first World War madness. Did they die at Saint-Mihiel in the thousands, because they were evil men? Or because their (((media))) and government lied to them? (Just as they lie to them today).

    If most Americans would have known the true nature of Stalin, and Europe’s fate following the second zio-conflagration, would they have fought? Only to see England and much of the ZUS, turned into a third world shithole, by the triumphant ((victors))?

    If most Americans understood the true nature of the ((Endless Wars for Israel)), would they be sending their children to die in them?

    Just imagine if the American people knew who was really behind 9/11!

    Do you think they’d still be OK with sending their children to die for Israel?

    I suppose a few Christian Zionists might, so they can get their rapture in time. But I’d like to think that the number of Americans who would still like to fight Israel’s wars, once they knew about 9/11, would be the exact same percentage of survivors of the USS Liberty, who’d be willing to kill and die for Israel.

    • Replies: @Saggy
  78. @anonymous

    The following books are banned from the propaganda centers, Public Libraries, (may be universities as well) in the US. WHY?

    AN END TO ANTISEMITISM!
    A CATALOGUE OF POLICIES TO COMBAT ANTISEMITISM

    Based on the contributions of participants to the international conference
    “An End to Antisemitism!”, Vienna, February 2018,
    organized by the European Jewish Congress, New York University,
    Tel Aviv University and the University of Vienna.
    PUBLISHED BY THE EUROPEAN JEWISH CONGRESS

    https://anendtoantisemitism.univie.ac.at/fileadmin/user_upload/p_anendtoantisemitism/PDF/Catalogue_FINAL_webversion_complete.pdf

    Recommendations Regarding Cultural Organizations and Institutions
    2.4.2 Cultural forgetting of antisemitic memory spaces

    {snip}

    At regular intervals, media outlets and other cultural organizations and institutions should publish and broadcast documentaries educating the general public about the false claims of antisemitic propaganda and slander. Museums and exhibition halls should do the same with exhibitions.
    » Pupils and students need to be taught on both the lower and higher levels of education about the false nature of antisemitic agitation (see chapter 5 on education).
    » Special webpages should be created and made easily accessible to help prove false the claims of antisemitic agitation.
    » Journalists and other cultural influencers need to be supported in their exposure of antisemitic lies quickly in order to stem the dissemination of antisemitic agitation.
    » All media outlets that propagate antisemitic stereotypes or antisemitism should be the object of public criticism and boycott. An example of such dissemination is the marketing of antisemitic books authored by Joseph Goebbels on Amazon (see p. 66 and 99). The same books can be downloaded worldwide free of charge from platforms like archive.org.
    » All existing legal means need to be used to respond to antisemitic agitation in the media. If no such legal means exist, the necessary legislation needs to be created.

    » Isolated cases of the propagation of antisemitic stereotypes in media outlets should result in a fine.

    » Media outlets that propagate antisemitic stereotypes or antisemitism regularly should be closed and prohibited.

    » Media outlets that in any way participate in false or biased reporting about Israel should be the object of public criticism.

    » Neither virtual nor real libraries should provide anyone with antisemitic literature, films, music, etc. Only scholarly and national libraries should hold antisemitic items. Access to these antisemitic items should be restricted to researchers (including advanced students) who need them for their work in studying and combating antisemitism, and those civil servants, politicians, and journalists who need them for their work.

    » Publications of central written, oral, and visual parts of a cultural memory should include introductions, marginal notes, subtitles or captions that warn about antisemitic passages and depictions in them (examples include the antisemitic stereotypes in Shakespeare’s The Merchant of Venice).

    » All antisemitic texts, films, music, blogs, and webpages, and other contents need to be publicly denounced and blacklisted. This includes not only books like
    Hitler’s Mein Kampf,
    The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, and
    Henry Ford’s The International Jew but also
    texts like John Chrysostom’s “Sermons Against the Jews,”
    Chaucer’s The Prioress’s Tale,
    Luther’s tractate about “The Jews and Their Lies,”
    Sayyid Qutb’s essay Our Struggle Against the Jews, and
    the Syrian TV series Ash Shatat which claims that Jews practice ritual slaughter of Christians today.
    Publishing houses, music labels, Internet platforms, etc. should not publish such contents, bookdealers should not sell them, and online repositories should not provide them.

    » Antisemitic contents of the cultural memories should only be available in commented editions that identify their lies and explain their dangerous agitation: Such editions are needed by scholars studying antisemitism and by various legal and other institutions that are involved in combating antisemitism.
    Commercials and advertisements for such editions should only address librarians, experts of antisemitism studies, and institutions that are involved in the fight against antisemitism.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  79. Archbishop Galen (deplorably) “consecrated” the war against Soviet Russia.

    I’d love to know why it was deplorable to consecrate any war effort against the godless demons who ran Soviet Russia.

  80. @Just passing through

    No one could take you seriously after you praised the monstrous war criminal Arthur Harris.

  81. Karel says:
    @Rurik

    Does not make much sense what you write. In the immediate aftermath of the war neither Zionists nor Bolsheviks, as you now call them, were the dominant force in Prague. The political parties were, despite the treachery of Munich, still mostly prowestern. If you some have time to read, you may find out that it was Churchill who was very much in favour of “odsun” i.e. transfer. The whole merry go around of displacing people started right after German occupation in 1938 and continued throughout the war till 1945. Germans, by adopting the Zionist model, displaced indigenous people and then resettled these “lands without people”, to use the Zionist phrase, with members of the master race. At the end of the war the madmen in Berlin were still bringing Germans from Romania to “empty” areas in central Bohemia. I can only applaud your profound ignorance.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  82. @Wally

    The remains of those killed by Communists “reside” wherever the Communists put them.

    The remains of those mass murdered by Nazis “reside” wherever the Nazis put them…

    So you can’t tell me of these mass graves where 10s of millions allegedly died? All you can really point towards are some graveyards and there isn’t any proof that those in the graveyards died at the hands of Soviets.

    If one believe the standard Holocaust narrative is a hoax, then using the same reasoning and logic that brought one to this conlclusion, one also has to come to a second conclusion that allegations of Soviet atrocities are also a hoax.

    • Replies: @Wally
  83. Karel says:
    @Marcali

    Hmm. Are you juggling with millions killed? The Nazi ideology was designed for the master race and not for the “Untermensch”; hence there is spittle of truth in your statement. However this ideology did not prevent members of other, but less noble, origins to be recruited to the SS. Belgians were rather keen to join the ranks of SS and even the subhuman Ukrainians were willing to serve, risking to have their balls shot off. You may have noticed that Ukraine is now the main stage of the Nazi cabaret. Other countries like Hungary, Austria or Slovakia are not so far behind.

  84. @Rurik

    AGREE that it’s a great post, Rurik, but it is not quite “spot on.”

    Charles Lindbergh is stuck in my brain; http://www.charleslindbergh.com/americanfirst/speech.asp
    he called out
    FDR’s administration;
    Churchill & the British;
    AND Jews.

    A strong case can be made that Jews served in what Yuri Slezkine called the “Mercurian” function — Jews like Frankfurter, Brandeis, Rabbi Wise, Untermeyer etc. acted as mediators / brokers, who brought FDR’s admin. and Churchill/ British together for the primary benefit of the Jews, but neither the British nor certainly the Americans that Jews heavily employed — primarily, East Coast churchmen and financiers — were dragged kicking and screaming into the camarilla; “Exceptionalism” — Americanese for “choseness” — induced them to be fully on board with the project of destroying Germany and subverting most of the rest of Europe and the former Ottoman Empire.

    There is something embedded in some version of “Americanism” that does, indeed, “share values” with zionists / Jewish supremacists, and we have to acknowledge that.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @Achilles Wannabe
  85. @Wally

    I thought it was the Czech Prime Minister Benes who sought the aid of Adolph Hitler?

    • Replies: @Wally
  86. Karel says:
    @Wally

    Hmm. So invasion of what Hitler called “Resttschechei” was a humanitarian act as there were not millions of dead in the process. If Sudetenland, a land that has never existed in history as such, but was invented by German propaganda was rightfully German, then as Austria was also rightfully German, it had to be annexed in 1938. Do you agree? You probably have no idea who Hacha was and what he did, so look it up please next time you write.

    • Replies: @Wally
  87. Johan says:

    “These graves represent a small fraction of the human sacrifice that an elite of revolutionary Marxists offered up to their ideological fetish. ”

    It is not so much a sacrfice anymore in that situation and at that level, it is the human beast acting out its bloodthirst, and lust for killing.

    “If glasnost proceeds and if the whole truth about the Lenin and Stalin eras comes to light, educated opinion in the West will be forced to reassess some of its most deeply cherished views. ”

    Wrong again, no glasnost needs to proceed, and no new knowledge is required, those who are shocked now will not be more shocked, or their opinion won’t change much, and those who glorify communism will not be changed by ite, those who overlook things and keep a blind eye so far will at large not be changed.

    What makes the difference is that of the human versus the power hungry, the murderous beasts, etc, both looking alike on the outside, no matter what pretty language the latter may speak, no matter what pretty suits they may wear, no matter which position they have.

  88. Saggy says: • Website
    @Rurik

    If most Americans knew

    What you are missing is that ‘most Americans’ do not want to know, do not care, will invest less that zero effort to find out what is happening in the world, and if you tell them, as I have repeatedly that, for example, the US dropped 40,000 bombs on the middle east in 2017, and provide a reference, they will not express one iota of interest, and will not even acknowledge the statement. It is simply of absolutely no interest to them.

    Note that smart people in the past, i.e. Hitler and Orwell, have noted that the masses are dolts. From 1984, the propaganda efforts of the state were directed to the intelligent 15%, 85% percent were proles who only needed food and entertainment. The Party slogan was ‘Proles and animals are free’.

    I don’t think you can expect anything from the proles minus a leader.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  89. Johan says:

    “He refused, that is, to deal with it metaphysically, as a unique object of evil”

    The real humanist (at heart, not the ideological humanist poser) does not buy into any propagandic narrative or philosophy of unique objects of evil. This notion is simply created and supported by those who have interests in it.

  90. Franz says:
    @conatus

    R.J. Rummel is no doubt a good egg.

    And in the late 90s when his ideas gained high velocity I was still hanging with libertarians, who thought he was the cat’s pajamas. Hooray! Another argument against government.

    Except “governments” never kill. People do.

    If your door gets booted open at 3 am and two dozen drug cops swarm in on a false tip and you and your family get gunned down because they “thought” you were resisting, that’s not a government crime. That was your fellow citizens, just making a buck.

    War is just the bigger version. Government enables, but people make the armor move and the bullets fly. The US has been at war since Bush W. sent troops to Afghanistan, during which time our cities have turned into war zones… more people-on-people crime because peace activists of all ages tried to tell everyone “It’s a LIE!” from the start. But not many heard. Just like the Nixon years when the first “war on drugs” was a lie and every sane voice against it was shouted down.

    Paul Simon: “A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.”

    But there’s hope. There are Young Vets talking to Old Vets — of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War type.

    It has nothing to do with bean-counting and finding out how many people Big Gov killed today. It has to do with treating each other as, precisely, fellow citizens, with respect and knowledge and the will to move enough people to grasp the fact that we are the persecutors and the killers until we choose not to be.

    • Replies: @J. Alfred Powell
  91. Rurik says:
    @Karel

    In the immediate aftermath of the war neither Zionists nor Bolsheviks, as you now call them, were the dominant force in Prague.

    The political parties were, despite the treachery of Munich, still mostly prowestern. If you some have time to read, you may find out that it was Churchill who was very much in favour of “odsun” i.e. transfer.

    The dominant force in Prague at the time, is the same dominant force in Prague today.

    ((London banking houses.))

    The same dominant force on whose behalf a besotted Churchill destroyed the British empire for.

    The same dominant force that funded the Bolsheviks, and intrigued the United States into the wars.

    The same dominant force that is causing the West to sacrifice itself for, in order to further bolster Israel. The same dominant farce that funded the putsch in Kyiv, and is sabre-ratting at Russia, Iran, Venezuela today, and too many other countries to name here.

    What you’re displaying, is the kind of unhinged tribal hatred for Germans that we see so often from Slavs. There seems to be an ancient intractability between some Slavs and the German race. Nazism and the second world war, just doesn’t account for the madness. I’ve read too many Slavs that seem orgiastic over what was done in Dresden, and only wish they’d burned alive every last German.

    It’s tragic and sad for me to see such hatred. Here’s a photo of Czech Gen. Zdeněk Novak, who was so harsh to the German people unlucky enough to find themselves at his ‘mercy’.

    Looking at his photo, I wouldn’t be able to tell you if he were Czech or German, if you waterboarded me. The two peoples are so similar, it reminds me of the intractable hatred of so many other peoples for their closest neighbors, and often, their own brothers. Russians vs. Ukrainians. Sunni vs. Shia Arab, and so on..

    Anyways.. the lesson we should all be taking from that war, and its horrible aftermath, is that collective punishment is wrong, and immoral, no matter if it’s done to Jews or Slavs or yes, even to Germans. Perhaps if humanity could but learn that one lesson, then they wouldn’t be so tacit over the outrages perpetually visited upon Palestinians.

    But then again, one must remember, just who represents the ‘dominate force’ in the world, and what is their nature.

    • Replies: @Jon Halpenny
    , @Karel
  92. JackOH says:
    @John Chuckman

    Good comment, John.

    We’ve a runaway government that’s underwritten social engineering at home and military adventurism abroad.

    Solution? I don’t have one. But, I’ve sometimes thought debate on a new constitutional convention ought to begin in earnest, and, maybe within that broad frame, debate on limiting the franchise somehow, and, likewise, redefining Americans into citizens and subjects.

    Sure, incendiary stuff, and it’s unlikely our academic gatekeepers have much interest in kicking off the debate. I do recall reading a bit from leftish and rightish profs on the merits of a new constitutional convention, though.

    My thinking is pretty cursory, but the idea is obviously quality over quantity, and, at least as I dimly see it, an electorate of, say, 1000 American citizens (per Congressional district) who’ve striven for the franchise might be a better check on corporate interests and irresponsible issue entrepeneurship than whatever we have now. Something like 800,000 persons per district?

  93. Rurik says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    he called out
    FDR’s administration;
    Churchill & the British;
    AND Jews.

    no argument here, S2C!

    Without their kapos, the supremacists wouldn’t be able to pound sand, let alone destroy the West.

    They must always have their Shabbos goys to do the dirty work, now mustn’t they?

    In my running theme that the more things change, the more they stay the same, please just consider the Kapos at work today. Blair, Cheney, Clinton, McCain, [RIH], and too many others to name.

    Is there not a common theme when it comes to Churchill and Blair? FDR and Trump?

    Are not these men doing all they can to simultaneously destroy their own nations, while concurrently bolstering Israel’s nefarious fortunes?

    I’d be (un)happy to concur the same goes for all, (or nearly all) the 535 congressional traitors in our House and Senate. Handing the keys of the US Treasury over to the world’s most Satanic cabal of supremacists to ever befoul the planet, was really an unprecedented act of raw, unmitigated evil.

    Hundreds of millions of people have died horribly, because of what Woodrow Wilson did. Both World Wars, the advent of Israel, communism in the 20th century, Zionism and Eternal Wars in the 21st, and all the collective misery those events have caused, can all be laid at the lap of president Wilson’s singular act of perfidy and betrayal. I only hope his eternal reward equals his actions.

    There is something embedded in some version of “Americanism” that does, indeed, “share values” with zionists / Jewish supremacists, and we have to acknowledge that.

    Well yes, I concur the USA, USA!! chanting imbeciles are vexing. And anyone who actually takes the words ‘exceptional’, when referring to Americans, as meaning anything other than the exceptional fools they’ve allowed themselves to become, would be worth pondering.

    But there again, I do put most of that down to programming. The American people are some of the worst educated, most indoctrinated, deliberately dumbed-down people on the planet. And all of that is by ((design)). Our culture is in-your-face crass, and panders to the lowest common cretinism.

    But it doesn’t behoove an American shop worker or housewife to want their child to be dumbed down to the point of Idiocracy. But dumbed down, they are. By design. And filled to the brim with USA! chanting militarism and pedestrian, parochial chauvinism. This too is all by design.

    So yea, we Americans are woefully lacking in a lot of things, like self-reflection, and moral clarity and a refined sense of relative humility.

    But we’ve been systematically programmed to be that way since the time of Charles Lindbergh Sr. and likely before that. So long as our militant myopia always suits the Class A stock holders of the Federal Reserve Bank.

    No one wants Americans to shout USA, USA!, and consider themselves militantly ‘exceptional’, more than ((Conservative Inc.))

  94. @aandrews

    Thank you for this. However, Tucker’s initial praise for the benevolence of the magnates of the “Gilded Age” is vastly overstated. Mark Twain, who co-wrote the novel that coined the term, knew America very well. Touring while lecturing in Australia in the late 1890s he was ASHAMED to see how much better small Australian towns were doing for themselves than towns in rural America. The English immigrants (and convict deportees) who constituted the base population of Australia had learned from their history to fight back against wealthy bullies and to create their own democratic egalitarian culture, and they were doing much much better for themselves than Americans.

    However, the rest of this video is spot on. It’s crucial to remember that Paul Singer is just one among thousands of members of his predatory class who have all been getting rich of pauperizing Americans since the Reagan Revolution (so called) began the great shift of wealth upward that continues, and continues accelerating, to this day.

    Of course, it wasn’t really “Reagan’s” — who was a C-grade Hollywood moviestar hireling mouthpiece who read his lines as instructed. His instructors were, firstly, his fourth-generation Wall Street mogul Vice President, previously head of the secret police, the same firm his campaign manager came from. In Burma or the Congo or Paraguay, we would know what to think of such happenings. But, “it can’t happen here,” can it? Can it?

  95. @Franz

    Yes, until we realize we are all fellow citizens in the same boat, with the same basic interests, and the same one big enemy (the 0.1% of Wall Street oligarchs headquartered in the Vampire State), divided, we will remain conquered. Which do YOU want this time, the Donkey Puppet or the Elephant Puppet. It’s a free country. You have a choice. Go ahead and choose. See what happens. Again. And again. And again. Some people never learn, do they. Will Americans? Not if Big Money has anything to say about it. And in America, Big Money talks. LOUDEST.

    • Agree: Johnny Walker Read
  96. Anon[275] • Disclaimer says:
    @utu

    What would be a reliable source for his economic & social policies?

  97. Richard B says:
    @Priss Factor

    Robert Conquest’s estimate is between 20 million and 30 million or more,

    And yet, in spite of this, Conquest still said he thought that what the Nazis did was “worse.”

    He even added, that he didn’t know why he felt that way. Just that he did.

    Gee, I wonder why.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  98. Rurik says:
    @Saggy

    I tried to click Agree, but I’ve exceeded by button use.

    Only Three Reaction-Comments Allowed per Eight Hour Window.

    What you are missing is that ‘most Americans’ do not want to know, do not care, will invest less that zero effort to find out what is happening in the world, and if you tell them, as I have repeatedly that, for example, the US dropped 40,000 bombs on the middle east in 2017, and provide a reference, they will not express one iota of interest, and will not even acknowledge the statement. It is simply of absolutely no interest to them.

    You’ve been lucky.

    Whenever I try to engage one of the Americanus Bovinus in a conversation about the Eternal Wars, or 9/11, I often encounter hostility. Like ‘What are ya, some kind-a towel-head lover or something?’

    But as I’ve just mentioned to another commenter, I’m convinced that the media and academia and the Dept. of “Education” and Hollywood and Madison Ave and Langley, et al, have been using very sophisticated tenets of behaviorism [see Skinner, BF], and other psychological ops, to mold and modify and down-right turn Americans into throngs of Manchurian candidate-consumers/cannon fodder, all carefully avoiding any topic that doesn’t align within the parameters of acceptable double-plus good- thought.

    So it’s a conundrum how to reach those who’ve been ‘gotten to’ by the ((forces that be)), and have instilled in them their narratives and world views, which once accepted, are nearly impossible to break free of.

  99. Mark A says:

    “In March, a Soviet team….” I guess the author forgot that the USSR hasn’t existed for 29 years! That’s ok tho. Now, more than ever before with the New Red Scare created by the Clinton gang. Any lie about Russia, the USSR, Stalin, Putin, whatever, no evidence is required. What have here is an exercise in flogging “official enemies.” Evidence is not required. More chest thumping “Indispensable Nation” hogwash!

    • Replies: @Wally
  100. Richard B says:
    @Wally

    Robert Conquest’s estimate is between 20 million and 30 million or more,

    And yet, in spite of this, Conquest still said he thought that what the Nazis did was “worse.”

    He even added, that he didn’t know why he felt that way. Just that he did.

    Gee, I wonder why.

  101. sally says:
    @mcohen

    Let me see, the journalist tells a lie (OPCW is …for example, Israel is not frequently bombing Syria, Houthi tribes did not blow up Saudi oil refineries, Cuba is not an Island in the Gulf of Mexico, the sky is dark green with purple and black pokadots, the moon is made of goats cheese) the news media distributes the lie; both Journalist and Media get paid for their minimal effort.

    Irvin does massive research concludes from the array of facts that there were no ovens, no Jews dying from German Atrocity, no lamp shades made of human skin, instead of his fact-determined conclusion we are lead to now believe that No Jews were allowed to die natural death in German camps. all Jews were beaten, starved, raped, enslaved, gutted for their body parts, and thrown still screaming from pain into ovens tended by fellow Jews? Death from natural cause or disease did not exist in any of the camps; the German hate was so strong, it refused to allow any Jew to die without pain of torture and physical abuse. And Irvine goes to jail for three years and pays a fine because he has no facts to prove he is innocent of wrongly stating his initial conclusion; that is because he changed his mind, his facts disproved his conclusion. It was that initial conclusion he was being tried for?

    Is it possible his advisers intentionally mislead him? What facts was the Jury allowed to hear and given as permissible to be considered in rendering the jury decision, was all of the decision a jury decision or did the jury decide only about one or two elements in the chain of elements that allowed a finding of guilty.
    What instructions did the Judge give the Jury to be considered in the determination of guilt? What exactly was Irvin proved guilty of. What charge were established by the Prosecutor? and what were those charges?

    Can Irvin prove the facts he researched prove there was no Holocaust, because that is what he would have to prove after he changed his mind?

    On the surface, and from what is said above, If I had been on that Jury I might have convicted Irvine, because he undermined his own researched, the facts he could present to the Jury proved his mind changed position correct, he had no factual basis to defend his position..(Irvin’s Research facts would need to prove there was no Holocaust in order for his original claim not to be wrongful?)
    so, it seems to me, the issue could not be decided on the facts.. .

    Who were the attorney’s; judges, and prosecutors? What is their background are they connected to one of the mentally unstable Intelligence or military agencies ?

    What elements are required to prove Irvine guilty of violating the statute?
    There is a lot missing from this article.. suggest it be rewritten to include all relevant facts and detail the complete story?

    • Replies: @anarchyst
    , @Truth3
    , @mcohen
  102. Is Raico a Jew? Name seems Italianish. But he was libertarian – professionally libertarian – and almost all of his colleagues except Hyack were Jewish. And he was UChicago – Synagogue as University.

    Anyway, is this going to be the new way to promote Hollicistiology given that information is now
    pouring out about the allies trying to genocide Germany and the Ashkenazi Jews pogroming Russian and Ukrainian peasants? “OK The Germans still did THE GREAT EXTERMINATION but now we can feel bad for them too given the way we warred on them. And the Russians were bad too and some of them were even Jews! Even JEWS did wrong!!”

    Reading this i realized that Mises and Hayek blamed “Nazism” on the growth of the State in Germany and not on the liberalized markets which enabled capitalists and Jews to SKEWER the German people

  103. anonymous[307] • Disclaimer says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Your list is very limited, because far more books and phrases are considered ‘antisemitic’ these days, since the enemy is afraid of the public awareness through Internet.

    They considered words such as ‘New World Order’ or ‘globalization’, even ‘Neocons’ as Antisemitic. Therefore, you should not listen to these nonsense and expose them as much as you can.

    Even a Conference, “New Horizen” is considered ‘antisemitic and the Jewish mafia used their puppet Trump to put ‘new horizon’ and its organizers on the terrorist list, where Trump, Netanyahu, Clinton, Pompeo, Kushner are far more suitable to be on Terrorists list according to their crimes against humanity that they have committed.

    Somebody was explaining this issue as following: No one should be upset by this phony charge. They want to silence people, to keep their position of power obtained through corruption and deception.

    First, they are NOT Semites, they are Khazar. They are the biggest antisemitic who have forced Palestinians out of their land by mass murdering them.

    Second, you should have done something RIGHT to be given such a Title.
    Thus everyone should say, this is a Batch of HONOR.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  104. Wally says:
    @Mark A

    said:
    ““In March, a Soviet team….” I guess the author forgot that the USSR hasn’t existed for 29 years!

    The article was:

    “[First published in Liberty, September 1989]”

  105. Wally says:
    @Just passing through

    – Hey dumsky, you’re comparing apples & oranges.
    – And as expected, you dodged my comment #59.
    again:

    [MORE]

    It is the “Holocau$t Industry” which claims that millions upon millions of Jew & ‘others’ remains exist in known locations, NOT REVISIONISTS.

    – And there’s nothing about the murders by Communists that defy laws of science like the absurd “holocaust” claims.

    – There are no claimed Communists mass murder sites claimed to be anything like the alleged 900,000 claimed to have been gassed at Treblinka, plus an alleged additional 500,000 allegedly gassed at the other Reinhardt camps, all the alleged human remains are claimed to have been dumped into known mass graves at those sites; or Auschwitz where massive remains are alleged to exist in an ash pond. Yet there are no such remains, period. See below *
    – The sites of massive killing like the mentioned Kuropaty and Katyn Forest have been excavated and the human remains displayed. Excavations of the alleged much, much larger “holocaust” sites have not found the claimed human remains, simple as that.

    Alleged “ash pond” for an alleged 1.1M Jew remains at Auschwitz, however these alleged remains cannot be shown to exist.

    Alleged location of Treblinka mass graves / remains of 900,000 Jews according to Treblinka officials, no alleged remains exist.

    photo from ‘Surviving Treblinka’, by Samuel Willenberg.

    It is captioned: “crane lifting corpses destined for cremation”.
    Does anyone see any “corpses”?
    Sobibor ‘monument’ supposedly over the remains of 250,000 Jew, actual remains of the alleged 250,000 cannot be shown.:

    – Revisionists are just the messengers, the absurd impossibility of the laughable ‘holocaust’ storyline is the message.

  106. Wally says:
    @Just passing through

    said:
    “Hitler then sperged out and started invading left, right and centre.”

    Only a Zionist makes such unsupportable claims and denies NS Germany’s right to defend itself.

    “Invaded” who?

    – Was it the planned Soviet invasion of Germany & Europe which the Germans prevented?
    – Was it the Polish threat to attack on Lithuania?
    – Was it Poland’s invasion and seizure of parts of Czechoslovakia?
    – Was it France’s positioning of 2 million soldiers on the Belgian border with Germany and the British force of half a million troops planning to attack Germany?
    – Was it “neutral” Belgium & Holland’s agreement with France and England to use their airspace for military purposes against Germany before Germany did anything?
    – Was it the USSR’s invasion of Finland, Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Poland?
    – Was it the USSR’s invasion & annexation of parts of Romania, their invasion of Iran, their invasion of Iran, their invasion of northern Norway, and their invasion of the Danish island of Bornholm?
    – Was it the British invaded of Iceland and Iran?
    – Was it the “neutral” US attacking German U-boats & shipping, while supplying both Britain & the USSR long before Germany’s declaration of war on the US?
    – Was it Britain and France’s declaration of war against Germany for rightfully attacking Poland, but Britain and France’s refusal to declare war agains communist USSR who invaded Poland from the east and seized 60% of Poland?

    You’re in way over your head here

    • Replies: @Anon
  107. @anonymous

    Apologies, anon 307, my comment should have drawn a clear connection between your question, WHY [are certain books banned] and the cut-and-pasted QUOTED MATERIAL that is the product of a Jewish conference.

    The text in the blockquote is not “my list;” it is the battle plan of certain Jews with bugs up their butts.
    My purpose in including the quoted material in a comment was, as you recommended: “to expose them as much as you can.” Think of it as a Huge Red Warning sign: DANGER AHEAD: there are influential people who want to increase the means by which they can control your culture and the ways that you think.

    Regarding attempts to push back against efforts at censorship — actually, at erasing cultural memory, which the Catalogue quite openly seeks to bring about — in my opinion, arguments based on “they are not Semites / Palestinians are Semites, so I’m not antisemitic;” and “they are not Semites they are Khazars,” are weak arguments.
    You and I know that those statements are factually accurate, but the “antisemitism” slur is not based on fact nor on sound argument, it is based on psychological manipulation, an attempt to induce shame, guilt, fear, and a sense of disempowerment in the presence of a superior Other.

    I’m trying to think of a quick-and-ready formula for appropriately responding to such an attempt at disempowerment , but I can’t come up with one right this minute. But as I try to develop such a response, it will be along the lines of reclaiming and asserting MY dignity and power, and making it crystal clear that nobody — certainly not a conference of Jews from Tel Aviv — has either the right or the moral standing to tell me what I may or may not think or say or read. Period. End of discussion.

  108. Mulegino1 says:

    What else is there to say?

    We now know that the 6 million Jew narrative was a gross exaggeration, and that there never were any mass gassings of Jews anywhere. There were no homicidal gas chambers at any German camp. There was no order by Hitler or any major functionary of the Third Reich to murder all of the Jews of Europe. We know that the “Total/Final Solution to the Jewish Question/Problem” was one of emigration and resettlement of Jews, not their mass murder.

    We now know that Germany does not bear sole or even preponderant guilt for initiating the Second World War.

    Germany was pounded into rubble and underwent savage rape and looting primarily because it had become a successful “socialist” state- which translates into a state successfully seeking and obtaining the well being of its entire citizenry- via social cooperation between all classes and estates- at the expense of economic orthodoxy and predatory international finance. “Socialist” is a dirty word when it implies ethical or national socialism, i.e., a state of solidarity and economic cooperation among all the members of a nation.

    • Agree: anarchyst
  109. Another one from a long line of Nazi revisionist articles on UNZ. Considering nazi crimes against Soviet union , germany is lucky to exist. It was exactly thanks to very human nature of the Soviet power that germany was,allowed to live after all crimes committed against humanity.

    • Replies: @Wally
  110. anarchyst says:
    @sally

    Judicial notice”, a legal doctrine, is used to turn a “commonly accepted belief”, however wrong, or even scientifically and physically impossible, into the equivalent of “religious orthodoxy” from which no dissent or counter-argument is permitted. THIS is the tool that jews use to legitimize even the most outlandish and ridiculous holocaust claims. Once “judicial notice” is invoked, evidence disproving holocaust claims CANNOT BE INTRODUCED AS EVIDENCE into the court records.
    This tactic was used in the Nuremberg trials to good effect, and is used in today’s “kangaroo courts” against those who dare question the lies, fabrications, and claims of witnesses about any aspect of the holocaust.
    The two latest victims of “judicial notice” and “holocaustianity ” are grandmothers Monika Schaefer and Ursula Haverbeck who are incarcerated in German high-security prisons for promoting “holocaust heresy” as we speak. Sylvia Stolz, a lawyer, attempted to introduce evidence refuting holocaust claims and was jailed for attempting to provide a proper defense for her client.
    TRUTH cannot be used as a defense when “judicial notice” is invoked.

    • Replies: @Robjil
  111. Wally says:
    @Sergey Krieger

    – What “Nazi war crimes against Soviet union”?

    – What “crimes committed against humanity”?

    Present your proof, if you have it.

    We await

  112. Wally says:
    @Karel

    Yawn.

    – There was no “invasion”, there were no “millions of dead”, that’s just laughable, easily debunked Zionist propaganda.

    – The Sudetenland (historical German name for the northern, southern, and western areas) was filled with … Germans … who overwhelmingly voted to become part of Germany as did those in Austria. Ah.

    – Czechoslovakia never existed before either.

    Learn something for change, here is more about former Czech President Hacha:
    https://www.unz.com/?s=hacha&Action=Search&ptype=all&commentsearch=only&commenter=Wally

    • Replies: @Karel
  113. @conatus

    Bloomberg thinks he has saved so many lives with his nonsmoking crusade but eventually he’ll give them all back with his gun confiscation crusade.

    Except for his own security detail.

  114. @Richard B

    And yet, in spite of this, Conquest still said he thought that what the Nazis did was “worse.”

    Because history is about reasons and intentions as well as results.

    Communism, though a tragic failure, was about social justice and brotherhood of man. Stalin’s message to all the peoples of the Soviet Empire was ‘We are all brothers, equal under the sun’. Of course, in reality, many were butchered or starved or worked to death. Still, it was a perversion of a moral idea.

    In contrast, Nazism was a racial nihilism. National Socialism could be a moral and just movement WITHIN Germany as it regarded all Germans to be fellow countrymen, brothers and sisters. But in areas inhabited by races or peoples seen as untermensch, Nazism could only be a nihilism of enslavement or extermination.

    Whereas communism, like Christianity, failed to practice what it preached, Nazism fully practiced what it preached, and what it preached was horrifying in Slavic lands, esp with Jews.

    Because Christianity and Communism had moral universal component, one could conceivably hope that Christians and communists would see the light and realize the evils of their way.
    But such realization would have been impossible with Nazis whose very ideology was a nihilism in regards to certain races and groups.

    Suppose Satan worshipers kill 5 million while Christians kill 10 million. So, is Christianity worse than Satanism because it killed more? If we go by quantitative measure, yes. But if we go by qualitative standards, Satanism still FEELS worse because there is nothing within it to feel remorse for what it has done. In contrast, it’s possible that Christians, due to their credo, may realize that they committed a grave sin in having killed all those people.

    Btw, since Hitler was most responsible for the war, at least 2/3 dead in WWII should be blamed on him and Nazis. Also, if Hitler had won WWII, he most certainly would have killed more than Stalin as he would have sent millions of Germans to settle Slavic lands while Slaves were relegated to enslavement or extermination.

    • Replies: @Richard B
  115. @Just passing through

    Some food for thought: Firestorms darken our past: Those who defend ‘Bomber’ Harris’s destruction of German cities are wrong, Geoffrey Wheatcroft argues – Link to The Independent [7 August 1994]

    Excerpt: “From 1942-5, a campaign of ‘strategic’ – or ‘area’, or ‘terror’ – bombing destroyed most of the cities of Germany and killed 600,000 people, most of them women and children.”

    Again?

    Really?

    You’ll be flying in a plane to kill too?

    • Replies: @Robjil
  116. Hibernian says:
    @CanSpeccy

    It was so purely strategic that we gave them printing plates for or currency.

  117. @ben sampson

    I am truly tired of this life.

    Your life is relatively short [as is mine], but you’ll be dead for a very long, long time…

  118. Karel says:
    @Emslander

    Great analogy indeed. I agree with you that these Hispanics may still be driven out at a somewhat later date as you hypothesize. It is sad that in your odd preoccupation with Sudetenland, this mystical land you probably know nothing about, you forget the millions of American Indians who were systematically murdered and driven from their land by settlers.

  119. @Rurik

    “There seems to be an ancient intractability between some Slavs and the German race. Nazism and the second world war, just doesn’t account for the madness. I’ve read too many Slavs that seem orgiastic over what was done in Dresden, and only wish they’d burned alive every last German.”

    Hitler and the Nazis probably did have a lot to do with it. The Lidice massacre, for example. Which the Germans did not bother to keep secret.

    • Replies: @Alexandros
    , @Rurik
    , @Wally
  120. Karel says:
    @Rurik

    You quipped

    The dominant force in Prague at the time, is the same dominant force in Prague today. ((London banking houses.))

    Hahaha, a great discovery, Rurik, perhaps you will also tell us their names. In any case that is excellent news for the whining Sudetegermans (unfortunately only a lucky few are still alive) as they and their descendants can now make fresh claims for compensation directly to the „London banking houses“, as you call them. Please inform the Sudetendeutsche Landsmannschaft, Bundesverband e.V. in Munchen immedietly about your great discovery. Telefon:(089) 48 00 03 – 70 (Presse – 54) E-Mail: [email protected] They will be happy to learn where to get more money, but please do not forget to tell them the names and addresses where to direct their claims. If I can follow your twisted logic, then the proverbial London banking houses were also responsible for the alleged massacres after the war. These „houses“ will no doubt be enchanted to learn more about their glorious past.

    Czechs, unlike Jews, are not tribal so that your personal accusation of me is baseless. As I mentioned in one of my previous comments, Germans were never ideal neighbours. The authorities in Vienna were saddened that after having tried very hard for centuries, they have not quite managed to Germanize the entire population. The authorities especially in nothern Bohemia went apoplectic whenever a Czech school opened in what they considered to be their pastures. Well, love such people, if you are a Christian.

    I have never heard of that beastly general Novak, whom you can apparently not tell appart from a German, but you can find at the internet a picture of my oncle Bohumil Kranda who probably may also looks sufficiently arian to you. Unfortunately, this did not help him much as he was executed, presumably for being too patriotic.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  121. Karel says:
    @Wally

    Wally you are twisting what I wrote. In particular, by stating that “So invasion of what Hitler called “Resttschechei” was a humanitarian act as there were not millions of dead in the process.” I did mean that there were millions of dead but was implying that people like you are probably disapointed that there were not millions of dead, which is a recurring, but rather disgusting, theme of the lead article and comments. Sudeteland has never been a country as such and that is it. Most countries that never existed before, exist now and there will be more countries not existing now that will exist in the future. What is wrong with that? Germany came to existence in 1870, which is not really that distant, but so what? Not to forget Austria, which appeared on the map, thanks to the brotherly help from the Czechs, only in 1918. I am glad that you are trying to learn more about Emil Hacha. Soon you will be able to give lectures about him.

    • Replies: @Wally
  122. Wally you are twisting what I wrote. In particular, by stating that “So invasion of what Hitler called “Resttschechei” was a humanitarian act as there were not millions of dead in the process.

    What “millions of deaths” are you referring? You gotta be more specific here, it is not sufficient to claim such thing. I think you are projecting like a good hoax soldier always does.

    “Killing the Czech way” produced millions of dead Germans, lined up and shot at the streets by communists and Jews. Original footage taken by a Czech family.

    The discriminating Benes decrees are still in place today.

    In 2005, the European Court of Human Rights refused the application of Josef Bergauer and 89 others against the Czech Republic. According to the applicants, “after the Second World War, they were expelled from their homeland in genocidal circumstances“, their property was confiscated by Czechoslovak authorities, the Czech Republic failed to suspend the Beneš Decrees and had not compensated them.

  123. @Jon Halpenny

    The Czech’s once killed hundreds of Jews because one of their members had thrown sand at a priest. Like their Tartar ancestors they are prone to violence. That is the reason for the animosity between Slavs and Germans. Barbarity vs. civilization.

  124. JackOH says:
    @JackOH

    Maybe a Center for Enfranchisement Studies with its slogan “better living through better citizenship”. Hire some policy guys to explore whether a much restricted franchise would have more likely squelched the Vietnam and Iraq 2.0 ventures, and the social engineering projects we bemoan here regularly. Maybe categories, such as “American citizen”, “American citizen-subject”, “American subject”, “legal foreign national”, etc.?

    I don’t know.

    But, I do know that a broad theme here at UR is that a lot of good, well-founded opinion about how to organize the American polity is starved of oxygen, partly, in my opinion at least, because our leaders can generally neutralize or bypass the well-informed insider (e. g., truth-telling diplomat Joe Wilson) by addressing fairly low-information, low-commitment mass constituencies with reassuring platitudes, such as “axis of evil”.

    Everyone’s heard the phrase “going over my head”, referring to a subordinate bypassing his boss to seek a higher-up. We’ve got the reverse here, IMO, of higher-ups bypassing middling elites to gain approval for political objectives.

  125. Robjil says:
    @anarchyst

    Using “judicial notice” for holocaust claims is making our court system like the witch craft trials.

    Here is how the concept of judicial notice came into being in our courts.

    http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v03/v03p-47_Staff.html

    It is commonly understood that judicial notice is not to be used to resolve the disputed issues of a case, but rather is a way of avoiding time-wasting and expense in the proof of matters which are so obvious and indisputable as to necessitate no proof. That the moon was full on a certain date, or that in California the sun is always higher in the sky at noon than at dawn, or that Napoleon Bonaparte once ruled France. Are facts that fall in that category.

    The big 6 is a religious theory and not judicial notice. Anything that can not be examined freely is a religious theory. It can not be freely examined thus it can not be a “judicial notice”.

    But the hazards of judicial notice are illustrated by the ease with which judges might at one time have taken judicial notice (to the great detriment of pioneering searchers for truth) that the earth is flat, that the earth does not orbit the sun, that the application of leeches is the best cure for fever, that humanity has existed for only a few thousand years, or that witches commonly cause the failure of crops and the drying of cows. Examples of this kind demonstrate that a debated issue, though most of the population stand on one side and only a tiny minority on the other, should not be resolved by judicial notice. This is particularly true where the treacherous shoals of “that huge Mississippi of falsehood called history” (Matthew Arnold) are concerned.

    • Agree: Daniel Rich
  126. Truth3 says:
    @sally

    Irving (with a ‘g’) was tried in Austria by a Judge, no Jury.

    A strong Kangaroo smell no matter how you look at it. No way that Austrian judge was picked to hear the case because he was a true Austrian. He was on a Jew leash from the get go.

    • Replies: @Truth3
  127. Robjil says:
    @Daniel Rich

    Attacking civilians has been a common theme since the first Zion century started on 12.23.1913.
    Why? Amalek concept. Any people who goes against the wishes of Zion is Amalek. They “must” be blotted out – women, men, and children.

    https://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0525.htm

    Deuteronomy Chapter 25 דְּבָרִים

    19 Therefore it shall be, when the LORD thy God hath given thee rest from all thine enemies round about, in the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance to possess it, that thou shalt blot out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven; thou shalt not forget. {P}

    “Germany must perish”by Theodore N. Kaufman is the Amalek concept in all its terror brought to life. I can not figure how people in the west fell for this barbaric religious concept as a “good” thing since the rule of Zion on 12.23. 1913. We now use the term “collateral damage” for Amalek attacks on civilians worldwide for the Zion US empire.

    https://www.ihr.org/books/kaufman/perish.shtml

    Theodore N. Kaufman, the author of Germany Must Perish, was a Manhattan-born Jewish businessman who was also chairman of a group that called itself the “American Federation for Peace.” The first edition of this slim volume was published in 1940 or early 1941. A second, 96-page edition, which sold for 25 cents, was published in 1941 by Argyle Press of Newark, New Jersey. Both editions were issued when the United States was still officially neutral, that is, before the Pearl Harbor attack of December 7, 1941, that brought the U.S. openly into World War II.

    Kaufman’s fervent proposal for the systematic sterilization of the entire German population was given respectful attention in the American press, including reviews in a number of newspapers. A review in the weekly Time magazine, March 24, 1941, called Kaufman’s plan a “sensational idea.”

  128. Truth3 says:
    @Truth3

    David Irving’s (((crime))) was to tell the truth about Adolf Hitler.

    That, to the Jews, threatens to unwind their Gordian Knot that they have foisted upon Mankind.

    See, their Hatred of Jesus of Nazareth and Christianity, their greatest Hatred, never was able to intimidate the Gentile masses (that had been converted to Christianity) into cowering before them.

    Ahhhh… but the smear of antisemitism did not become a true weapon until the lie of the Holohoax frightened the sheeple into submission…

    If you know the Truth about the Jews, and have any guts at all, the fear of their smear becomes something far different, yet, as they have the power from their lies, it’s like the Apostles cowering in the Cenacle after Jesus was buried…

    “For Fear of the Jews”.

    What is needed… is the functional equivalent of the Ressurection.

  129. All I know is we must stop Trump–or he will blot out the sun!

  130. @JackOH

    Best be careful what you wish for when it comes to a “Con-Con”.

    WHO or WHAT IS BEHIND THIS CURRENT MARCH TO FACILITATE AMERICA’S DOOM?

    A BRIEF HISTORY: The proponents of a con-con have been at it for nearly fifty years now: In 1964 the Ford and Rockefeller Foundations funded and orchestrated – via the CSDI (Center for the Study of Democratic Institutions) – the drafting of a new constitution for America. This model constitution, drawing upon the efforts of more than 100 people, took ten years to write. The 40th draft was published in a book titled “The Emerging Constitution”, by Rexford G. Tugwell (Harper & Row, 1974). The project produced the proposed “Constitution for the NewStates of America”. http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/concon/newstates.htm

    http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/concon/concon2012.html

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  131. Richard B says:
    @Priss Factor

    Communism, though a tragic failure, was about social justice and brotherhood of man.

    The injustice of Stalin and SJWs is justified because they believe in justice.

    Talk about nihilism.

    This is literally what is meant by “The road to hell is paved with good intentions.”

    It’s not just a case of moral insanity, but of moral imbecility as well.

    Sick, Crazy, and Stupid.

    This explains why communists demonize dissent, pathologize opposition and kill everyone who doesn’t think like them.

    Further evidence of their insanity and imbecility is that they actually refer to themselves as “warriors.”

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  132. Richard B says:
    @GeeBee

    As Revilo P Oliver often remarked, Germany was cruelly extirpated for the ‘crime’ of wanting to have a country of its own.

    Today “antisemites” are being extirpated.

    And exactly what is an “antisemite”?

    It’s anyone who doesn’t believe in Jewish exceptionalism and rejects Jewish Supremacy Inc.

    But make no mistake about it. What we are witnessing today is nothing less than,

    The Pyrrhic Victory of Jewish Supremacy Inc.

    Because their rise to power has been in direct proportion to the collapse of the very social institutions that power controls.

  133. Trinity says:

    ONE HUNDRED AND NINE TIMES !!!! This can’t be said enough. As I have already stated, would you rent an apartment to someone or people who have been evicted 109 times!?

    How many times must a Jew/Israeli have to be caught RED handed (pun intended) spying on America before America has had enough?

    How many times does America have to be attacked by Israel like in the Lavon Affair or the attack on the USS Liberty before America has had enough? Not to mention that Israel is highly suspect in the 9-11 attacks as well.

    IF these were Irish, Russians, Chinese, or North Koreans doing the same here, do you think Americans would have any problem pointing out the problem even if the aforementioned people controlled the FAKE NEWS media? Remember Paul Revere sounding, “The British are coming, the British are coming?” In today’s world would a Paul Revere prototype even be allowed to sound, “The Jews have taken over America, the Jews have taken over America?

    • Replies: @Truth3
  134. @Priss Factor

    Holocaust I get.

    It’s HoloBoast that I can’t stand.

    Spelling really IS important.

    When holocaust, an event, becomes Holycause, a religious observance, it moves into the realm of religious belief. It joins other Holy things as something to be worshipped.

    Perhaps someone should organize a commemorative holiday. Sometime around the celebration of Kwanza should be about right. Certainly it should require the lighting of candles in remembrance.

  135. Rurik says:
    @Karel

    a great discovery, Rurik, perhaps you will also tell us their names.

    basically, Rothschild

    but they have lots of ((minions))

    whining Sudetegermans (unfortunately only a lucky few are still alive)

    raw, genocidal hatred

    If I can follow your twisted logic, then the proverbial London banking houses were also responsible for the alleged massacres after the war.

    Then, as today, it’s the top of the food chain that decides who gets bombed or exterminated once the Jewish supremacists won that war. When Eisenhower built his death camps for teenage German boys, once the war was ‘over’, if Rothschild would have preferred they serve as slaves in Siberia, instead, then they would have been shipped to Siberia. Perhaps the only difference today is that Putin has put the kibosh on Rothschild’s ‘Russian’ oligarchs, and wrested Russia away from London’s death grip. (Hence the 24-7 screeching in the (((Western media))) at how Putin = Hitler reincarnated).

    But the rest of Europe, doesn’t fart, unless it’s given permission by Rothschild and his toady, the ZUSA.

    Czechs, unlike Jews, are not tribal so that your personal accusation of me is baseless.

    the lady doth protest..

    you revel in the slaughter, so long as it’s the slaughter of Germans, (including children). But I put that down more to your ((programming)), than to anything unique to the Slavic character.

    Slavs were exhorted by their ((leaders)) to carry out unspeakable horrors against their Kulak neighbors in the 30s, but I suspect that was due more to the ((Bolshevik’s)) clever lies, equating the privilege and rapine of the House of Romanov, with some hard-working peasant farmers.

    The authorities especially in nothern Bohemia went apoplectic whenever a Czech school opened in what they considered to be their pastures.

    Which is it? You complain when Germans encroach into what you consider Slavic lands, but then don’t allow them the same right to self-determination in their own historic, ancient lands?

    Or does Vienne and Bohemia belong to the Slavs as well?

    I looked

    When Europe become sufficiently Muslim/African/Asian, it won’t matter much whether such men are considered ‘arian’ or not. It will be enough that they’re all racists, and guilty.

    Thank your fellow tribal haters of all things German when that happens, and orcs are raping Czech young women wholesale and you have massive security for Christmas celebrations.

    In case you haven’t noticed, Western civilization is rotting. The capitalists are looting it blind, and using every method at their disposal to create a slow, depraved genocide by non-Western immigration. Prague will go the way of Malmo or Birmingham or, one of my favorites, Rotherham, when the security that existed from having a Europe of Europeans surrounding it, is gone.

    And why? Because of all the butt-hurt crybabies all trying to play the victim better than the next guy, so they can keep the house they live in, which was stolen from the German family that owned it, and lived in it for generations, before they were expelled to die in frozen marches to nowhere.

    ‘They deserved to die!! They were German!!’

    Is the tiresome mantra I hear over and over.

    How much of that is due to atrocities committed by German soldiers, vs. Slavs wanting to keep the property that was confiscated from Germans after the war?

    When Jewish supremacists demand to keep the houses of Palestinians, they screech that the Palestinians shoot rockets into Israel!! They’re terrorists and animals, and should have no rights! – they howl.

    But perhaps there’s a fear there that these squatters are living in someone else’s house, and the rightful owners just might one day come calling, eh?

  136. @Rebel0007

    History is a rabbit hole. No time like the present to change what is taking place today.

    Change what, exactly? And change it how, exactly?

    To answer those questions well, you need an accurate understanding of history. Otherwise it is blind flailing easily put in service of evil.

  137. anarchyst says:
    @Johnny Walker Read

    The “con-con” is about one thing. Getting rid of the Second Amendment…

  138. Rurik says:
    @Jon Halpenny

    The Lidice massacre, for example. Which the Germans did not bother to keep secret.

    I just did some reading on this massacre.

    The furore over Lidice caused some hesitation over the fate of the remaining children but in late June Adolf Eichmann ordered the massacre of the remainder of the children.[17] … On 2 July, all of the remaining 82 Lidice children were handed over to the Łódź Gestapo office, who sent them to the Chelmno extermination camp 70 kilometres (43 miles) away, where they were gassed to death in Magirus gas vans. Out of the 105 Lidice children, 82 died in Chełmno, six died in the German Lebensborn orphanages and 17 returned home.

    more:

    However Eichmann was not convicted of this crime at his trial in Jerusalem, as the judges deemed that “… it has not been proved to us beyond reasonable doubt, according to the evidence before us, that they were murdered.” [18]

    Hmm..

    So many lies, so many liars. What to believe?

    I have relatives in Norway, (I’m an American ‘Heinz 57’, and have DNA from all over Europe). Anyways, I know that the Nazis occupied Norway and would round up villagers and execute them randomly whenever the resistance killed a German soldier.

    It no doubt created a lot of hatred and anger. But I don’t know of any Norwegians that continue to hate Germans to this day. There may be a few, but I’m not aware of any.

    But then again, I also don’t know of any Norwegians that are living in houses taken from Germans, who want to keep those houses, so there’s that..

    For myself, I wasn’t there. But I do see what Quisling meant when he talked of the threat to Norway of a world ruled by genocidal enemies of the West.

    Many Norwegians joined the SS. Were they all evil? What about the Slavs that donned the Wehrmacht uniform to fight the Bolshevik menace, were they all evil?

    Too often people look at that war from their own parochial perspectives, without comprehending the larger picture. As the planet is on the precipice of Absolute Domination by the tribe, with Total Surveillance and speech crimes and Globohomo in your classrooms in Europe, perhaps one day, as the (((Orwellian)) boot crushes down on their children’s faces, they’ll finally begin to understand what was at stake, and why Germany fought so energetically.

    When people are arrested for ‘anti-Semitism all over France, for criticizing Israel, and orcs are raping young women all over Europe, then, perhaps, just maybe, some of these slow thinkers will finally, and at long last, begin to glimmer just what those Slavic and Norwegian SS men were fighting for.

    Macron does not believe that the rebuilding of the Notre Dame should be intended to restore the glory of the ancient Gothic cathedral (with the painstaking labor that went into it); instead, Macron wants it to be recreated to be “consistent with our modern, diverse nation.”

    Now what might that mean? Here’s an indicator: an architect has proposed that the new structure include a minaret. A minaret is a type of tower built into mosques as a visual focal point and used for the Islamic call to prayer. The architect sees fit to “memorialize Algerians who protested the French government in the 1960s” since “these victims of the state could be memorialized by replacing the spire with – why not? – a graceful minaret.” Given the obscene insensitivity displayed by Macron and others, it would come as no surprise if indeed a minaret were installed at Notre Dame, as a declaration of victory over France’s history and democracy.

    https://www.weeklyblitz.net/news/architect-suggests-an-islamic-minaret-be-included-in-notre-dame/

    When France turns Muslim, ((it is inevitable)) how safe will Czechoslovakia be?

    But then again, why not? Algerians and other African and Middle Easterners are not German, so why not flood your nation and erase your culture and heritage and DNA, to accommodate (((diversity)))? Your elites and politicians will be awash in EU funds, and will be able to afford a chateau in Switzerland, slated for genocide much later than the rest of Europe!

    It would be their final victory against Hitler and the Nazis!

    https://www.irishpost.com/news/six-algerian-men-arrested-irishwoman-gang-raped-holiday-prague-153004

    • Agree: Daniel Rich
    • Replies: @Poco
  139. Wally says:
    @Karel

    – Talk about desperate projection and being a babbler. You are it.

    – I prove there was no “millions killed” and you complain about it.

    – And then, after having been made of fool by stating that the Sudetenland as a country never existed, I proved that it was a historical name for a region of the German population and also stated that Czechoslovakia ‘never existed’ either, you try to distract by noting that many countries never existed then. Well so what? LOL Put a cork in it.

    – You predictably ignored:

    “The Sudetenland (historical German name for the northern, southern, and western areas) was filled with … Germans … who overwhelmingly voted to become part of Germany as did those in Austria. Ah.

    – I note you are unable to refute what I posted in the link about Hacha, someone you obviously know nothing about.
    aka: more dodging.

    IOW, you’re in over your head,

    • Replies: @Karel
  140. @Richard B

    The injustice of Stalin and SJWs is justified because they believe in justice.

    Talk about nihilism.

    No, ends do not justify means, but noble ends are still better than evil ends.

    Christians killed a lot of people just like the Mongols but what the Mongols did feels worse because they had no ends besides terror and domination. Thus, there isn’t even tragic nobility to what they did.

    Communists were too ready to resort to evil means for noble ends. But same can be said for America in its creation. It used slavery and ‘genocide’ of the Indians. In the end, capitalism works economically, communism doesn’t.

    This explains why communists demonize dissent, pathologize opposition and kill everyone who doesn’t think like them.

    Most systems through history suppressed dissent. Christians and Muslims killed plenty of people. As for Nazis, they didn’t just suppress dissent but planned to wipe out entire populations based on race. Also, not all communist systems were (mass)murderous. Soviet Union post-Stalin wasn’t particularly murderous. Post-Stalinist Eastern Europe generally didn’t kill people for dissent. They were repressive but not particularly murderous.
    Also, US aided ‘death squads’ in Latin America.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Robjil
    , @Richard B
  141. Wally says:
    @Jon Halpenny

    said:
    “Hitler and the Nazis probably did have a lot to do with it. The Lidice massacre, for example. Which the Germans did not bother to keep secret.”

    Facts about Lidice:
    – As strange as it may seem today, retaliation was allowed under international law. The Allies certainly did it.
    Only military age men were shot, women & children were not.
    – Lidice is a drop in the ocean compared to the Communist crimes of Katyn and Kuropaty, the Communist gulags, the Allied crimes of massive civilian bombing of Germany long before Germany retaliated on a much, much smaller scale against Britain, The US A-bombing of Japan, the summary execution of countless surrendered Germans by the allies. I could go on.

    – Documents from the U.S. National Archives reveal that the U.S. government helped cover up the Soviet 1940 massacre on some 20,000 Poles at Katyn and other places — not just during the war, but even afterwards. The Katyn Massacre by the Soviets was accepted by the Allies at Nuremberg as a German crime.
    The US government cover up the Soviet atrocity at Katyn: https://archive.is/qrANs

    more on Lidice:
    https://www.unz.com/article/why-germany-attacked-the-soviet-union/?highlight=lidice#comment-3120669

    • Replies: @Jon Halpenny
  142. Rebel0007 says:

    @Germanicus,
    You claim that there was no formal treaty ending WW2. I do not know what you mean by formal treaty, but WW2 ushered in an era of treaty mania, imo.
    here are just some of them:
    https://www.americanforeignrelations.com/O-W/Treaties-World-war-ii-and-security-agreements.html

    • Replies: @Germanicus
  143. Truth3 says:
    @Trinity

    Not to mention that Israel is highly suspect in the 9-11 attacks as well.

    Understatement of All Time.

    • Agree: Rurik
    • Replies: @Trinity
  144. Rebel0007 says:

    @Craig Nelson,
    If you believe that in order to change anything, one must have an understanding of history, my guess is that you probably have a motive for trying to prevent people from changing things, because it is humanly impossible to understand all of history in a life time.

    Perhaps you would just like to control everything yourself. I realize that it is important to study not only history, but science current events, and the arts as well.

    Opportunity costs.

    One does not need to fully understand World War 2 to realize that the United States has no business inciting coups and wars around the world.

    Most of the people involved in World War 2 are dead now. If you would like to raise them from their graves and hold them accountable, I don’t think that you will have much luck.

    As far as change what and how, that is an ethical and philosophical question for each individual, imo.

  145. @Rebel0007

    You claim that there was no formal treaty ending WW2

    I do not claim, there is no peace treaty between Germany and WWII Allies to this day.
    The UN charter clearly defines enemy states to this day.

    Usually, wars, conflicts are terminated by a peace treaty, and the war economy etc shifts back to civil. Never has happened, especially in the US, they have been at war since 1941, correct me if I am wrong and it is even longer.

    Trump explicitly mentioned a peace treaty with Korea, and, tada, Germany. It is why the communist Jews hate him so much. WWI and WWII(both are one war anyway) have to be properly terminated to get out of the persistent state of war.

  146. anonymous[222] • Disclaimer says:
    @Priss Factor

    As for Nazis, they didn’t just suppress dissent but planned to wipe out entire populations based on race

    Show the Plan, Priss, or recant.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  147. Rurik says:

    have to be properly terminated to get out of the persistent state of war.

    but I thought world Jewish supremacy liked having their boot perpetually on Germany’s neck, with ZUS troops and bases all over Germany, no?

    If they lifted their boot off of Germany’s neck, then wouldn’t the Germans think they could close their border to endless hordes of migrants?

    Wouldn’t such a development be proof that Germans are evil racist Nazis after all?

    Isn’t the only solution, going forward, for enough migrants to come in and replace all German DNA, so that Never Again! will the world’s Jewish supremacists ever have to worry about a nation lifting a hand to Jewish supremacist Total Domination?

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @Germanicus
  148. Ron Unz says:
    @Skeptikal

    ” Hastings,Bomber Command. The best short introduction to the subject is the review of Hastings’s book by the gifted London journalist Geoffrey Wheatcroft, The Spectator, Sept. 29, 1979, reprinted in Inquiry, Dec. 24, 1979. It was the only review Inquiry ever reprinted.”

    I can’t find this online.
    Perhaps Ron Unz can provide this review at UR.

    Fortunately, it’s already in my PDF Contents Archive, though there’s a bug so it’s displayed in two separate pieces:

    https://www.unz.com/print/Inquiry-1979dec24-00021/Contents/

    https://www.unz.com/print/Inquiry-1979dec24-00022/Contents/

  149. Rebel0007 says:

    @Germanicus,
    Have inseted the omitted word “peace”, since all of these were peace treaties. Peace treaties do not guarantee peace when they are not observed. As far as Trump saying that he wants a treaty with Germany, again, this is after NATO violated negotiations with Gorbachev by expanding NATO to include Poland and Baltic states. A peace treaty does not guarantee peace, unfortunately. Trump also withdrew from balistic missile treaties and nuclear proliferation treaties.
    You claim that there was no formal peace treaty ending WW2. I do not know what you mean by formal treaty, but WW2 ushered in an era of treaty mania, imo.
    here are just some of them:
    https://www.americanforeignrelations.com/O-W/Treaties-World-war-ii-and-security-agreements.html

  150. Rebel0007 says:

    @Germanacus,
    P.S. It is the sneaky two faced manipulative victim card played by Germany, France, and England that is so revolting! Pretending that they are victims of the American empire. Merkel and Macron are so two faced that it is disgusting. China is too. They are all every bit as kaniving as the Israelis.

    I side with Russia.

    • Replies: @Germanicus
  151. Poco says:
    @Rurik

    If a minaret were installed on Notre Dame, THEN it should be burned to the ground.
    The architect and Macron should be guillotined anyway.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  152. @anonymous

    Show the Plan, Priss, or recant.

    Don’t be a dammy. Always judge a power or people by what they do, not what they say. Nazi behavior in conquered areas of the USSR was brutal and murderous. Of course, the Nazis didn’t declare this plan openly.

    Same with Jewish Power. There is no official Jewish Plan of Great Replacement. But Jewish Power pushes exactly that in EU and US. So, judging by what Jews do, they are for White Nakba.

    Or, take US neo-imperialism. US deep state doesn’t say it intends to do ANYTHING(however lowdown and dirty) to perpetuate US hegemony, but that is exactly what it DOES.

    I don’t care if there was a stated Nazi PLAN or not. What matters is the actions taken by Nazi Germany in certain territories, esp in Russia. And it was elimationist.

    • Replies: @Alexandros
    , @anonymous
    , @Wally
  153. Robjil says:
    @Priss Factor

    The Zion era is the most barbaric era of all.

    Communism, Nazism, and Zionism all happened in this era.

    No one can study what happen in WWII so Nazism is up the air for whatever it did bad.

    Communist is also up in the air for what it did bad since one can not freely study that too.

    Zionism also can not be studied in our MSM. It is anti-S to do so.

    The Zion era does not allow any investigation of anything that hinders its control of us.

    Humans can only advance if humans are “allowed” to investigate human actions freely.

    We are frozen these days.

    We can’t move freely in any direction without name calling of our Zion rulers that we are anti-S.

    • Replies: @Wally
  154. Rebel0007 says:

    Germany says ” Oh, United States, please protect us from Evil Russia! Oh, Russia, please protect us from Evil American Empire!”

  155. Trinity says:
    @Truth3

    Yes, that was definitely an understatement. Point taken.

  156. @Wally

    ” Only military age men were shot,”

    You didn’t deny it. That is a great start!

  157. Rurik says:
    @Rurik

    proof that Germans are evil racist Nazis after all?

    You see?!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59VZfgs_HBo&feature=youtu.be

    they don’t want to blend with Africans and Muslims!!

    They’re intractable racists and Nazis!!!

    Maybe Morgenthau was right after all, and the only way Jewish supremacists are going to keep their genocidal grip on the planet is by doing away with Germans.

    • Replies: @turtle
  158. @Priss Factor

    And as proof of these supposed actions of the Germans in the East, you rely on American and Jewish reports. Too funny.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  159. Rurik says:
    @Poco

    The architect and Macron should be guillotined anyway.

    hypothetically, if Macron were found guilty of treason, (he likely is), and the courts sentenced him to die by the guillotine, then if there were a raffle held to decide who gets to pull the rope that drops the blade, I suspect that such a raffle would sell so many tickets that France could pay off its national debt, and ours too!

    • Agree: Poco
  160. @Rebel0007

    You seem to live in children’s world.
    Of course Europe, specifically Germany remains occupied by the US, with about 70000 troops, 60 military bases, tons of hostile NGO, and in fact, the Merkel regime running the criminal corporation “Federal Republic” is not a proper German government, it is Weimar 2.0 with the Euro being Versailles 2.0.
    Macron is a Rothschild clown, and Merkel is being blackmailed with Stasi past among other things..

  161. @Rurik

    but I thought world Jewish supremacy liked having their boot perpetually on Germany’s neck, with ZUS troops and bases all over Germany, no?

    You do see what I mean?

    The so called “industrial military complex” thrives becauise the Us have been in a state of war since decades upon decades.

    I am saying, it doesn’t only have negative consequences for Germans, but obviously for the US americans as well. They have been paying in a giant financial black budget black hole for decades upon decades, and iirc 60 million people homeless.
    The pretty and nice thing with a state of war, you don’t have to declare war anew every time you send imperial troops to fill in the white spots on the imperial map to “liberate and democratize” some people.

    The sheer prospect of a peace treaty strikes fear in the enemy.

    • Agree: turtle, Rurik
    • Replies: @turtle
  162. @Alexandros

    You’re right. When the Nazis invaded Russia, they handed out cookies and valentine cards.

    Millions did not die.

    • Replies: @Alexandros
  163. @Robjil

    Find the man who inspired Bomber Harris to go apeshit on German civilians, and you run into another tribesman. Fire, fire. fire. It must mean a lot…

    • Agree: Robjil
  164. @Priss Factor

    Not as far off the truth as you would like to think. Germans sent in precious doctors to help native villages in the East. The red partisans would pay them back with machinegun fire. If this to your mind squares up with a genocidal policy then by all means go ahead. I won’t bother you with uncomfortable facts.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  165. turtle says:
    @Germanicus

    the US have been in a state of war since decades upon decades.

    Since 7 Dec 1941, to be exact.
    Non-stop. No let-up.
    WW3, Cold Phase, started 2 Sept. 1945 (V-J day).
    WW3 Hot Phase is yet to come.
    Many pigs feeding @ the trough.

    “…until there is no enemy, but peace.”
    “…until there is no enemy but peace.”
    Depends how you parse the sentence.

  166. turtle says:
    @Rurik

    doing away with Germans

    GFL

    • Replies: @Rurik
  167. Rebel0007 says:

    @Germanacus,
    Not sure what you mean by saying that i seem to live in a childrens world, if you claim that refusing to cave to the evil, corrupt, predatious psychopaths is a childrens world, I say that you either live in a spineless losers world or are one of the predatious psychopaths.

  168. @Alexandros

    The problem with you Greeks is you suffer from inferiority complex from race-mixing with Arabs and Turks. So, you idealize Nazi Germans as the pure Aryans, the sort that supposedly inhabited Greece in ancient times. I understand you hate the fact that your ancestors were raped by Turks and mixed with Arabo-Semites. That’s no reason for sucking up to Nazi Germans.

    • Replies: @Alexandros
  169. Rurik says:
    @turtle

    That’s the spirit!

    but wait, now we see Australians also are Nazis!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUhDHu1NdTg&feature=youtu.be

    maybe we just need to do away with All white people..

    • Replies: @turtle
  170. anonymous[222] • Disclaimer says:
    @Priss Factor

    Here’s what you wrote Priss:

    As for Nazis, they didn’t just suppress dissent but planned to wipe out entire populations based on race

    You wrote that Nazis “PLANNED” to wipe out . . .”

    On what basis do you write that Nazis PLANNED to wipe out “entire populations based on race?”

    You obviously can’t show a PLAN, so you pivoted away from your own assertion.

    In 1938 Herbert Hoover interviewed Hitler and Goering and came away convinced that “Hitler had three idees fixes:

    “to unify Germany from its fragmentation by the Treaty of Versailles; to expand its physical resources by moving into Russia or the Balkan States — to gain . . . living space, and to destroy the Russian Communist government. . . . It was obvious that he had the support of the German people, who still bitterly recollected the humiliations of defeat, dismemberment, and disarmament, their sufferings from the continued blockade after their surrender in the war, from the famine which was its aftermath, and from the brutalities of the Communist uprisings in German cities during the Armistice period.”

    Nothing there about “wiping out an entire population based on race,”— the only named enemy was an ideology, and one whose proponents had invaded the German homeland and wreaked havoc on the German people.

    In fact — the “what they do-ness” of the Third Reich’s war — the killing that Germans did in the course of the war was not focused on any “racial” group but on groups who engaged in violent adversarial action as NSDAP set about pursuing its declared objectives.

    Priss wrote:

    “I don’t care if there was a stated Nazi PLAN or not. What matters is the actions taken by Nazi Germany in certain territories, esp in Russia. And it was elimationist.”

    If you “don’t care about a plan,” why did you write that the Nazis had a plan?

    As for “eliminationist,” with your test being what they DID, if Nazis DID “eliminate” “Russians,” how did it come to pass that there were enough Russians left to drive to Berlin, crush the German army, rape 2 million German women, occupy East Berlin, and engage in a Cold War for over a generation?

    OTOH, Jews DO have plans, made manifest, and systematically pursued, from a model derived from their mythos — Joshua’s conquest of Jericho — to Benzion & Bibi’s plan for the Global War on Terror, drafted in 1979 and declared by Ehud Barak from a BBC studio in London on Sept. 11, 2001, with PNAC and Oded Yinon in between the Draft and the Go Live; and the subsequent declaration of plans to destroy “seven states in five years” — plans very close to fulfillment.

    Ya got nuthin’ but History Channel bullet points, Priss.
    Care to try again?

    • Agree: Rurik, Robjil
    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  171. @anonymous

    LOL. Ironically, you’re arguing like a Jewish lawyer, hairsplitting over terminology and technicalities.

    We can deduce the plan from what actually happened. Nazi Germany invaded Russia, and the plan obviously was for mass colonization. Hitler in his table talks spoke of depopulating Russia of Slavs and replacing them with Germans. And surely, all those dead Jews were part of a plan. Did SS and Wehrmacht just accidentally kill those people?

    Why does a plan have to be declared to the world to be valid? Many plans are secretive.

    For example, there’s been no stated US plan to destroy the Middle East for the sake of Israel. But, when we look at the events, it seems very plausible that the Jewish Hand was behind these recent wars, mainly to serve Israel and Jewish hegemony.

    Also, there was no stated Jewish Plan to rape Russian economy in the 90s. But judging from results, there had to have been a secret plan to transfer much of Russia’s wealth to Jewish oligarchs.

    In THE GODFATHER, Michael Corleone doesn’t publicly reveal the Plan to take out the heads of the Five Families. But from the result, that was clearly the plan.

    Do you think Hitler would have left a paper saying, “Hey, here is Mein Planen to conquer Russia and kill millions and fill it up with Germans”? Get real.

    Admit you’re a neo-nazi Hitler-lover.

  172. @Robjil

    Maybe WW 2 was what actually happened while Hollywood Jewry distracted Westerners with John Ford war movies?

  173. Wally says:
    @Priss Factor

    said:
    “I don’t care if there was a stated Nazi PLAN or not. What matters is the actions taken by Nazi Germany in certain territories, esp in Russia. And it was elimationist.”

    – What “actions”? We await.
    You have no proof for that old & laughable Zionist claim, and we see you don’t even try to present any. Now that is pathetic.

    recommended
    Why Germany Attacked the Soviet Union, Hitler’s Declaration of War Against the USSR – Two Historic Documents, by Mark Weber: https://www.unz.com/article/why-germany-attacked-the-soviet-union/
    Operation Barbarossa Was A Preventive Attack, https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7999

  174. Wally says:
    @Robjil

    Besides being scientifically impossible, it’s the suppression of free speech on the subject that further proves that the “holocaust” narrative is Zionist propaganda, aka: BS.

    Only lies require censorship.

    – Gerard Menuhin / righteous Revisionist Jew, son of famous violinist wrote:

    Alone the fact that one may not question the Jewish “holocaust” and that Jewish pressure has inflicted laws on democratic societies to prevent questions—while incessant promotion and indoctrination of the same averredly incontestable ‘holocaust’ occur—gives the game away. It proves that it must be a lie. Why else would one not be allowed to question it? Because it might offend the “survivors”? Because it “dishonors the dead”? Hardly sufficient reason to outlaw discussion. No, because the exposure of this leading lie might precipitate questions about so many other lies and cause the whole ramshackle fabrication to crumble.”

    from:
    TELL THE TRUTH & SHAME THE DEVIL
    By GERARD MENUHIN
    Copyright 2015 by GERARD MENUHIN and THE BARNES REVIEW
    available at: https://shop.codoh.com/book/406

    • Agree: Robjil, Richard B
    • Replies: @turtle
  175. turtle says:
    @Rurik

    LOL.
    Thx 4 that.
    I’ll see your Rutger Hauer & raise you a Richie McCaw:

    Maori war dance performed by mostly whites, who call their side the “All Blacks”
    (Played #7 in my youth, but not nearly at that level)

    • Replies: @Rurik
  176. turtle says:
    @Priss Factor

    there’s been no stated US plan to destroy the Middle East

    Depends what you mean by “stated.”
    Broadcast to the public by GW Bush in a scheduled press conference?
    No. Hell, no.
    Cat got out of the bag later, video interview(s) with those privy to the decision to “take out x countries in y years?”
    Yes. Hell, yes.

  177. turtle says:
    @Wally

    Why else would one not be allowed to question it?

    Because there is MONEY:

    in it.
    Lots & lots of money.

  178. Rebel0007 says:

    @Jack D,
    This is the Trird Opiate War. 80% of opium is from Afghanistan. The U.S. went to Afghanistan because the Taliban burnt the poppy fiends down because of religious bans against mind altering and addictive drugs.

    Most people in the west do not have any idea of what it means to have a government that has a belief system.

    The Taliban cannot be bought. They truly believe in what they are doing.

    The U.S. military regrew the poppies and guards them at gun point. That is a fact. That is the disgusting horrendous dispicable truth about the U.S. military. A bunch of good for nothing spineless thugs and whimps. Yes men, will do whatever they are told without remorse. They are totally without honor.

    Are you a recruiting agent or something? I can’t imagine that telling people that they would be importing heroin would be a draw for anyone other than addicts.

    Of course there was recently a U.S. Navy bust of importing heroin and humn trafficking, but the military and government blamed it on the yes men. Framed them for what they were instructed to do. Framed them for carrying out orders. Of course the military has its own court system too, for obvious reasons!

  179. anonymous[222] • Disclaimer says:
    @Priss Factor

    Admit you’re a neo-nazi Hitler-lover.

    surprised at Priss Factor, thought he/she was smarter than to tattoo on her/his forehead,
    I DON’T HAVE A STRONG ARGUMENT SO I WILL CALL NAMES!

    loser

  180. Karel says:
    @Wally

    Wally you are twisting what I wrote. In particular, by stating that “So invasion of what Hitler called “Resttschechei” was a humanitarian act as there were not millions of dead in the process.” I did mean that there were millions of dead but was implying that people like you are probably disappointed that there were not millions of dead, which is a recurring, but rather disgusting, theme of the lead article and many subsequent comments. Sudeteland has never been a country as such and that is it. Most countries that never existed before exist now and there will be more countries not existing now that will exist in the future. What is wrong with that? Germany came to existence in 1870, which is not really that distant, but so what? Not to forget Austria, which appeared on the map, thanks to the brotherly help from the Czechs, only in 1918. I am glad that you are trying to learn more about Emil Hacha. Soon you will be able to give lectures about him. I do not have to refute anything as I never said anything of Emil Hacha. You pulled his name out of the hat. Improve your reading skills, if I may recomend something beneficial to you.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Fox
  181. ” (One Old Bolshevik, Zinoviev, spoke openly as early as 1918 of the need to eliminate 10,000,000 of the people of Russia.) ”

    Why no footnote? I am ready — even eager — to believe the Bolsheviks were bloodier than the Nazis but it’s not good enough to throw around unverified chatter.

    Is the right dishonest or simply too stupid to know what a footnote is and why someone would want one?

    I see this problem over and over on right-wing websites. Never any verification for any of their dramatic claims of communist atrocities.

  182. Robjil says:
    @Priss Factor

    The Jewish hand is there if one looks.

    Read “The Controversy of Zion” by Douglas Reed.

    He names the Jewish Advisors in Britain and the US who pushed for WWI for the Balfour Declaration and WWII for Israel.

    We have now WWIII for Eretz Yisrael, greater Israel.

    The constant whining about Iran, is that Iran is the last large country in the Middle East that is strong after the US Golem has been wiping nation after nation for Israel’s Seven Nations to Destroy.

    There are Jewish religious connections to show it is a Jewish led thing.

    The Seven Nations to Destroy theme is from Deuteronomy 7.1-2. It is how Torah/Tanakh Israel was formed. Ancient Isrealites wiped out seven nations in Caanan to get Israel.
    The Neo Israelites want to do the same with the help of the US Golem.

    Iraq was first invaded by the US in 1991 for Israel. That war ended on Purim.

    The second war on Iraq started on Purim 2003.

    The war on Libya started on Purim 2011.

    Nine Eleven was on Elul 23, the 12th month of the Jewish Calendar. Thus it is 12. 23. 5761.

    This was the beginning of the second century of Zion.

    The first century of Zion began on 12.23.1913 on our Calendar.

    Nine Eleven numbers also has a Jewish connection. Ten is the number of the Tree of Life. This one less and one more combo compared to the ten number is considered chaos or evil in the Jewish Kabbala.

    Elul 23 is also the Day the Noah sent a second dove who brings back an olive branch.
    Does a olive branch represent “peace” in Judaism. No, it doesn’t.

    https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/3807806/jewish/Why-Is-the-Olive-Branch-a-Symbol-of-Peace.htm

    As the Lubavitcher Rebbe, Rabbi Menachem M. Schneerson, of righteous memory, explains, the olive branch teaches us that rather than placing our trust in the promises of peace from man, we should place our trust in G‑d. Even if in the moment, it may seem a bit “bitter,” ultimately, it is this promise and covenant that will prevail.

    Thus, the true symbolism of the olive branch differs greatly from the conventional idea that it symbolizes a “peaceful new world.”5 (In fact, although the olive branch as a symbol of peace seems to originate from the Bible, it was historically never used by the Jews as such.)

    After Nine Eleven, all the planes in the US were stopped for two days. The day that planes were “allowed” to start up again was Elul 25, 5761. What day is that in Judaism? It the day the earth was created.

    Thus planes were allowed to get going on a “new earth”, after a new flood. Ironically, two planes “hit” the WTC like the two doves who were sent out in the in the Torah story.

    This is lesson was particularly pertinent after the Great Flood, an era when people set out to rebuild civilization based on mutual cooperation, but ultimately rebelled against G‑d by building the Tower of Babel and were dispersed throughout the lands. So too in our day, when we work together to promote peace, we must not do so on account of our trust in mankind over G‑d.

    Placing our trust in G‑d, rather than man, will usher in the era of true peace with the coming of Moshiach—may it be speedily in our days!

    The push for the Noahide religion worldwide by Judaism fits in this Noah WTC attack. Noahide religion has even made Noahide villages in the Philippines. The present president of the Philippines has children from a Jewish wife.

    • Replies: @Germanicus
    , @Florin N.
  183. Anon[398] • Disclaimer says:

    “ In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is…in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. ”

    6 million… it was all real… in my mind

    • Replies: @Zumbuddi
  184. @Priss Factor

    I’m Scandinavian.

    Believing Allied lies is no reason to hate on Germans. They were the only major participant in that war trying to act honorably. Once you leave the propaganda behind this becomes obvious. Acknowledging the sacrifices made by Germany is not sucking up to them, it is defending all that is civilized in the West.

    • Agree: Zumbuddi, Trinity
    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  185. Rurik says:
    @turtle

    I fold

    the bloke is for real

    thanks

  186. Zumbuddi says:
    @Anon

    Thanks for this.

    Theodore Dalrymple, right?

    • Agree: Rurik
  187. Rurik says:
    @Priss Factor

    We can deduce the plan from what actually happened. Nazi Germany invaded Russia, and the plan obviously was for mass colonization.

    I agree with your methodology of paying attention to what was actually done, to glimmer the intent.

    And what was done once the war was ‘won’, was Stalin enslaved as much of Europe as he could. Therefor, it is logical to assume that was his intent. He also tried to starve Germany into abject submission, (triggering the Marshall Plan), so we can also be reasonably certain that the intent of the Bolsheviks/Soviets was to torture Germans for being Germans and dominate and enslave them. Exactly like they tortured Kulaks for being Kulaks, and dominate Ukraine today.

    So, considering what we know about the nature of Stalin and the ((Bolsheviks/Soviets)), it would have been suicidal madness for Hitler to ignore the threat, no?

    In THE GODFATHER, Michael Corleone doesn’t publicly reveal the Plan to take out the heads of the Five Families. But from the result, that was clearly the plan.

    but in The Godfather, the heads of the five families were killed. Whereas, from what I’ve read, there were as many Jews alive in the world post WWII, than at its advent. Around 15 million. So if Hitler’s intent was to genocide all Jews off the planet, then that’s not aligned with what happened.

    What I like to do is look at the world today, to glimmer history, which we all know is lied about.

    Who today are militant and genocidal?

    Who today tell lies with their every breath?

    Germans? Or Jewish supremacists?

    Who today is driving the plant to the brink of WWIII and all out nuclear war, with their insane imperative to dominate everything and everyone in absolute terms?

    Who today, can we see projecting their rancid id onto their victims? They call the Palestinians “terrorists”, when we all know it was Jewish supremacist terrorists (for real) who slaughtered untold thousands of Arabs in order to steal their lands, and continue to terrorize Palestinians with open demands to genocide the those that remain.

    The exact atrocities that Jewish supremacists commit against their victims, is what they always accuse their victims of doing.

    ‘Hitler wanted a final solution!!

    But in fact, who really wanted to commit genocide? The Morgenthau Plan is documented, not fantasy. And attempts were made to implement that genocide. Eisenhower had actual death camps for Germans. Show me the evidence of a German-run concentration camp where the interned were denied even a blanket in the snow.

    It seems like every atrocity that these people commit, is the exact same thing they accuse their victims of. Europe is ‘guilty of racism’, as attempts are feverishly imposed to genocide the white race off the planet. It Europe and White America resist their wholesale genocide, they’re guilty of ‘hate’.

    So looking at the world today, if I used the metric of extrapolating how things are going today, with what likely happened seventy years ago, I’d likely calculate that the Jewish supremacists did all in their power to genocide every last white person from the planet that they were able to, so that they and they alone could dominate everyone in absolute terms. ‘It is written’.

    If I were to waterboard a thousand random Germans, and get to their id, and ask them how they feel about Russians, I suspect that they say they consider Germans to be better, but that they harbor no hatred for Russians, and wish them well in Russia.

    Which is likely what most Americans would say about Russians or Germans or Jews.

    But if I were to waterboard a thousand random Israelis or Jewish supremacists like Adelson, and ask them what they thought about Germans, or Arabs, I suspect they’d reveal that they would like to see them all tortured to a slow death. And why? Not for anything that was actually done to any Jews, but rather for the German and Arab recalcitrant unwillingness to act as abject slaves to Jewish supremacists.

    That, you see, is the rub.

    Germans and Russians and Arabs, have no imperative that they dominate everyone and that everyone not Jewish, must be enslaved to Jews. And failing that, genocided.

    But this is the open narrative of the depraved madness of the Jewish supremacist id, going back thousands of years. Their god gave them this planet, and put the Gentiles here as their slaves. And as laughable as that is to you and me, they actually believe that horseshit!

    And that, my friend, is the problem that plagues this planet. And has done so ever since that rancid idiocy of Old Testament hatred oozed out of the dank crevices of some deranged madmen’s tribal hallucinations.

    Hitler was far too racist for my tastes, and I suspect the hubris of the Nazis was their undoing. But what ever racism or hubris the Nazis were deluded by, is not even in the same universe as the psychotic ravings of the Jewish supremacists.

    If they continue to dominate the West, as they do now, no doubt the history books will show that Jews were living in peace in Israel since time began, until some Arab terrorists started slaughtering them in order to steal the land.

    Everything they accuse others of, seems to be exactly what they themselves are guilty of.

    Final solution genocide = exactly what they wanted and tried to implement in Germany, and have planned and demand for every White nation today.

    So, if I’m dubious of the things ((they)) accuse Germany of, it’s with good reason.

    Germans are not universally treacherous, congenital liars. Jewish supremacists certainly seem to be.

    Imagine a German conceiving of an act as singularly treacherous and cowardly as the attack on the USS Liberty. I doubt a German could even imagine committing an act as ignoble. It’s just not in their blood. But Jewish supremacists no doubt pat themselves on the back, for their sniveling underhanded treachery.

    • Replies: @Truth3
  188. Trinity says:

    It is mind boggling how in the year 2019 that ANYONE can still believe the “official World War II” narrative that were spoon-fed for so many years. (((They))) can censor videos, comments, etc., all ((( they))) want, but the average American and a good portion of the world’s population for that matter, no longer believe the “official narrative” of WWII. More and more people have found out about the Holodomor, and more and more people are becoming “WOKE” to what happened not only back in WWII but what is happening right now. The cat is out of the bag.

  189. Wally says:
    @Priss Factor

    Admit it, you’re a dimwitted Zionist. LOL

    – Still waiting for you to tell us how the alleged yet impossible ‘Nazi gas chambers” worked.
    – Still waiting or you to show the millions upon millions of ‘holocausted’ human remains that are claimed to exist in known locations.

    you laughably said:
    “Hitler in his table talks spoke of depopulating Russia of Slavs and replacing them with Germans”
    recommended:
    Hitler’s “Table Talk”: A Study in Academic Fraud & Scandal: https://www.inconvenienthistory.com/9/3/4880
    The Faking of Hitler’s “Last Testament”: http://www.fpp.co.uk/Hitler/docs/Testament/byGenoud.html
    Table Talk: http://www.fpp.co.uk/Hitler/Table_Talk/Picker.html

    you also ridiculously said:
    “what actually happened. Nazi Germany invaded Russia, and the plan obviously was for mass colonization”
    – What happened was immense military battles, it’s called WWII, dumsky.
    You have no proof of anything else, as has been shown repeatedly.
    recommended:
    Why Germany Attacked the Soviet Union, Hitler’s Declaration of War Against the USSR – Two Historic Documents by Mark Weber: https://www.unz.com/article/why-germany-attacked-the-soviet-union/

  190. @Robjil

    We have now WWIII for Eretz Yisrael, greater Israel.

    I would disagree a bit, technically, it is still WWII.
    If you want to count it as WWIII, I would suggest it is waged on the population domestically by … uhm Eskimos of course.

    WWIII is not war army vs army, but hybrid and asymmetric warfare, psychological warfare, social engineering, media, school and uni brainwashing, 5G kill grid, drones and AI etc… it is the official takeover by private interests, which has been done long before secretly. Google is more powerful than many countries for example.

  191. @Alexandros

    The problem with you Nordics is you suffer from inferiority complex of being pale and bland. So, you idealize Nazi Germans as the red-blooded Aryans, the sort that supposedly reignited the spirit of the Vikings. I understand you hate the fact that your ancestors became dull and boring Lutherans. That’s no reason for sucking up to Nazi Germans.

    • Replies: @Wally
  192. Trinity says:

    Thou shalt have no other atrocity before the “holocaust.” Forget the Holodomor, the Bengal Famine, the American Indian Genocide, the Potato Famine, the Armenian Genocide, we need to only concern ourselves with the “holocaust.” Forget that the Holodomor occurred before Hitler came into power and forget that the Bolsheviks wanted to do the same thing to Germans that they had done to the Russians and Ukrainians. None of this matters. Lets not concerns ourselves with Whites being slaughtered in South Africa, ( yet another “commie” takeover) or Whites being raped or murdered by nonwhite “immigrants” in OUR countries. We must always look back forever more to World War II. There is no other history or current event that matters except for fighting “anti-Semitism” and making sure Israel’s borders are safe from non-Jews looking to immigrate to Israel. Israel has to have a different set of rules when it comes to immigration. We can’t expect Israel to embrace diversity as its greatest strength. Got it? Right.

    How or why anyone falls for this sh*t and keeps falling for it is mind blowing.

    • Agree: anarchyst, Rurik
    • Replies: @Truth3
  193. Wally says:
    @Priss Factor

    Projecting again.

    There were the ‘Nazis’ with the mythological ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ and there were the ‘Nazis’ without the mythological ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’.

    There’s a good reason why you call yourself “Priss”.

    Israel becoming ‘safe haven for paedophiles’ with laws that allow any Jews to legally return:
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/israel-safe-haven-paedophiles-jerusalem-sex-abuse-jewish-community-watch-a7445246.html
    Israel is the gayest country on earth: https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/israel-is-the-gayest-country-on-earth/
    Jews more than twice as likely to be gay, lesbian:
    http://akinokure.blogspot.com.au/2012/07/jews-more-than-twice-as-likely-to-be.html

  194. Wally says:
    @Karel

    – Talk about desperate projection and being a babbler. You are it.

    – I prove there was no “millions killed” and you complain about it.

    – And then, after having been made of fool by stating that the Sudetenland as a country never existed, I proved that it was a historical name for a region of the German population and also stated that Czechoslovakia ‘never existed’ either, you try to distract by noting that many countries never existed then. Well so what? LOL Put a cork in it.

    – You predictably ignored:

    “The Sudetenland (historical German name for the northern, southern, and western areas) was filled with … Germans … who overwhelmingly voted to become part of Germany as did those in Austria. Ah.

    – I note you are unable to refute what I posted in the link about Hacha, someone you obviously know nothing about.
    aka: more dodging.

    IOW, you’re in over your head,

  195. Truth3 says:
    @Rurik

    What a picture…

    • Replies: @Rurik
  196. Truth3 says:
    @Trinity

    The “Holocaust”… what was it?

    Something like 279,666 filthy disgusting Jews (see Patton’s writings) died in camps (Red Cross estimate) designed to keep them from their evil ways even while the Germans attempted to save them from typhus by using tons of Zyklon B to constantly fumigate their filty clothing because the Jews were so afraid of and against bathing (ever smell a Zhyd on an airplane?).

    Something like 100,000 more died in the Baltic States as the people there took their revenge for the Commissar Jews depredations and murders.

    Something like 20,000 more were killed in the regions of the Pripyet Marshes of Belarussia, as a brutal partisan war was suppressed.

    That’s it.

    No Auschwitz Birkenau underground unventilated damp cold Zyklon B Gas Chambers with wooden doors that opened the wrong way, no Treblinka million of missing bodies that were roasted on outdoor barbecue grills after being first buried then dug up. No Maidanek or Sobibor mass murders. No Death Camps. No Shrunken Heads. No lampshades of Jew skin. No RIF Pure Jewish Fat soap bars. No Electroction chambers or electrified wire at the work camps. No Death by SS Dominatrix women guards. No diesel exhaust Gas Vans. No sewing Jews together. No Babi Yar, no Ukrainian Jew killing fields (after the Jews murdered millions in the 1930’s in Kaganovich’s Holodomor).

    Meanwhile, Jews were at the forefront of urging USA & Britain to use HE and incendiaries like white phosphorous to firebomb helpless civilians day and night for almost four years. Old men, women and children, the disabled, wounded all turned to a fluid or charred mass in the underground bunkers and basements of Dresden and hundreds of other cities.

    No mass rapes of Jews, but unfathomable Red Army rapes of German women, called for by the Jew Soviet propagandist Ilya Ehrenberg.

    All historical events are wide open for examination for the Truth.

    But not the Holocaust Hoax.

    • Agree: Trinity
    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Germanicus
  197. Anon[398] • Disclaimer says:
    @Truth3

    I notice like most deniers, you don’t mention the masturbation machines. Which were real.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Truth3
  198. @Truth3

    Something like 279,666 filthy disgusting Jews

    That’s not quite precise, the number stated by Bad Arolsen does not distinguish the dead. Just dead, no actual number of Jews given within these.
    So the dead Jew count is likely smaller than the total Red Cross numbers, considering something 48% of Auschwitz inmates were Jews. The issue is so complicated because the Soviets counted war dead as “holocaust” victims, and Soviet successor state Russia still do somehow.

  199. Wally says:
    @Anon

    Indeed, but Revisionist do mention yet another absurd “survivor”, Irene Zisblatt, who claims to have hid her diamonds by swallowing them, crapping them out, and repeating that process each day. https://forum.codoh.com/search.php?keywords=irene+zisblatt&fid%5B0%5D=2

    [MORE]

    How about other gems like:

    – ‘I breathed through a keyhole in the gas chamber to survive the gas’
    – ‘I lived with wolves to survive’.
    – ‘I drank human urine to survive’.
    – ‘I hid beneath the toilet outlet under a train car, it repeatedly emptied the human waste all over me.’
    – ‘I survived six gassings’.
    – Jew ‘Survived’ By Rising From The Grave

    Then how about just few more of the endless, laughable claims, from:
    the so called ‘Holocaust’ / theatre of the absurd: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=66

    · Mass graves expelling geysers of blood;[1]
    · Acid or boiling-water baths to produce human skeletons;[2]
    · Injections into the eyes of inmates to change their eye color;[3]
    · Production of shrunken heads from bodies of inmates;[4]
    · Skimming off boiling human fat from open-air cremation fires;[5]
    · Out of pity for complete strangers – a Jewish mother and her child – an SS-man leaps into the gas chamber voluntarily at the last second in order to die with them;[6]
    · Soap production from human fat, solemn burial of soap;[7]
    · Underground mass extermination in enormous rooms, by means of high voltage electricity;[8]
    · Killing in vacuum chamber or with steam or chlorine gas;[9]
    · Mass graves with hundreds of thousands of bodies, removed without a trace within a few weeks; a true miracle of improvisation on the part of the Germans;[10]
    · Gas chambers on wheels in Treblinka, which dumped their victims directly into burning pits; delayed-action poison gas that allowed the victims to leave the gas chambers and walk to the mass graves by themselves;[11]
    · Electrical conveyor-belt executions;[12]
    · Cremation of bodies in blast furnaces;[13]
    · SS bicycle races in the gas chamber of Birkenau;[14]
    · Removal of corpses by means of blasting, i.e., blowing them up;[15]
    · Blue haze after gassing with hydrocyanic acid (which is colorless);[16]
    · Singing of national anthems and the Internationales by the victims in the gas chamber; evidence for atrocity propaganda of Communist origin;[17]
    · Rapid-construction portable gas chamber sheds;[18]
    · Killing by drinking a glass of liquid hydrocyanic acid;[19]
    · Muscles cut from the legs of executed inmates contract so strongly that it makes the buckets jump about;[20]
    · Introduction of Zyklon gas into the gas chambers of Auschwitz through shower heads or from steel bottles.[21]
    · The SS made sausage in the crematoria out of human flesh.[22]
    · Mummified human thumbs were used as light switches in the house of Ilse Koch, wife of KZ commander Koch (Buchenwald).[23]

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Germanicus
  200. Anon[398] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wally

    “It was real… in my mind.” Lmao

  201. @Wally

    Her “The fifth diamond” is funny. Named after the unit who picked her up far away from where she supposedly had been.

    The 5th Infantry Division (Mechanized)—nicknamed the “Red Diamond”,[1] the “Red Devils”, or “die Roten Teufel”—was an infantry division of the United States Army that served in World War I, World War II and the Vietnam War, and with NATO and the U.S. Army III Corps.

  202. dgfdfd says:

    “In their minds, as in those of right-wingers generally, the Bolshevik acts were transformed, irrationally, into Jewish acts, a transformation helped along by the existence of a high proportion of Jews among the early Bolshevik leaders.”

    Ummm…. the second part of the sentence proves the first part.

  203. mcohen says:
    @sally

    Sally

    Like any mustang it is the ride that counts not the price paid.
    Irvon vos guilty of promoting the hitler camp with the whip on the buttock.He wore the black leather boots and chaps for the ride.He vos guilty.

    Siggy heil

  204. Truth3 says:
    @Anon

    Like this Rube Goldberg fantasy…

  205. Truth3 says:

    Trump signs Executive Order expanding definition of Anti-Semitism at White House Hannukah party…

    Just look at the assembled Jews and a lone shabbos goy…

    https://www.trunews.com/stream/president-trump-signs-executive-order-to-combat-anti-semitism

    • Replies: @Germanicus
    , @turtle
  206. Richard B says:
    @Priss Factor

    No, ends do not justify means, but noble ends are still better than evil ends.

    No, ends do not justify means but ends justify means.

    The pretzel logic of moral fanaticism.

    Enough!

    No explanation is worth killing other people over.

    But some are worth fighting against.

    Your explanation of the world is worth fighting against.

    Because you don’t call it an explanation, you’re so delusional you call it “the truth.”

    Even after it’s been responsible for the death of more people than any explanatory system in history.

    But, again, you think it’s justified because you’re so “noble.”

    It’s impossible to have sufficient contempt for people like you. But I’m willing to try.

  207. Propaganda in America has been under the watchful eye of Leftist since the 1920’s. History is recorded by propagandists.

    • Replies: @Trinity
  208. Trinity says:
    @Hugh Sanford

    We really need to drop the whole “Leftist” vs. Right thing and call a spade a spade.

    Deep State = Jewish Supremacists
    Leftist = Jewish Supremacists
    Neocon = Jewish Supremacists

    Is it funny or is it a “cohencidence” that Jews lead so many “leftist” organizations? Is it funny or is it a cohencidence that so many Jews are neocons? Didn’t commie Lenin say the best way to defeat the opposition is to lead it or something along those lines?

    And PLEASE stop calling these “leftists”, liberals, they are the antithesis of a liberal and they only hijacked that word to PRETEND to be the tolerant good guys.

    • Agree: Robjil, Rurik
  209. @Truth3

    Apr 4, 1945 (II.15.674) ***

    The Jews have applied for a seat at the San Francisco Conference [on post-war plans]. It is characteristic that their main demand is that anti-Semitism be forbidden throughout the world. Typically, having committed the most terrible crimes against mankind, the Jews would now like mankind to be forbidden even to think about them.

    https://www.inconvenienthistory.com/2/2/3109

    • Replies: @Trinity
  210. Trinity says:
    @Germanicus

    Would the Jews treatment of their fellow Semite “neighbors” the Palestinians and others be considered, “anti-Semitic?” I guess the Jews would be exempt from obeying laws set down for the goyim to follow and their very own “anti-Semitic” behavior would be excused because they have suffered so much more than anyone else. Maybe we could pass some “anti-Gentile” laws, after all what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

    • Replies: @Germanicus
  211. @Trinity

    Noahide laws, signed by Bush senior.
    What “ISIS” do with decapitation follows precisely the 7 Noahide Laws.
    Anyhow, I do think we must not constantly externalize the problem, the problem Israel is secondary, primary problem is the treason within the US empire and its client states.

  212. Robjil says:
    @Germanicus

    https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/.premium-the-messianic-zionist-religion-that-wants-to-recruit-7-billion-members-1.6455144

    Noahidism is growing sadly for humanity.

    But who are these Noahides? They are members of a new religion, subordinate to Judaism, founded by rabbis from Israel, mainly from Chabad and the religious Zionist movement. According to the World Center, there are dozens of Noahide communities across the world, with more than 20,000 believers. That’s a hefty number, given that the religion was only founded at the beginning of the decade. Small Noahide communities exist in various countries, with the largest one in the Philippines.

    Nethy and Duterte are for Noahidism.

    Cooperation between Israel and the Philippines is constantly growing, and this week reached new heights with the visit to Israel of the country’s president, Rodrigo Duterte. The Philippines are a key arena of Chabad activity, and one of the primary venues where the new religion is being disseminated. There are four Chabad centers in the country, and in addition to assisting Jews, they support 10 Noahide houses of prayer. The Hasidic emissaries view the Philippines community as the model for Noahide communities in other countries. A group from the community was brought to Israel two years ago, and its members met with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who has also sent his greetings to all the communities worldwide.

    Why is Duterte so into Noahidism? His ex-wife was of Jewish descent. He had three children from her.

    A lesser-known fact about the notorious leader is that his ex-wife of 25 years with whom he had three children is of Jewish descent.
    The father of Elizabeth Zimmerman, 70, was a German Jew who fled Nazi Germany and obtained a visa to the Philippines along with approximately 1,300 European Jews.

    The couple has three children, Paolo, Sara, and Sebastian who are therefore also of Jewish descent, and Sara is currently in Israel visiting with her father.

    • Replies: @Robjil
  213. Nathalie says:

    For our battle is NOT against flesh & blood…but against principalities of darkness. The solution=intimacy with the Creator. When we know the heart of the Father we realize He values ALL life b/c He created us.

  214. @Rebel0007

    You seem to be thinking that it is better to treat the symptoms of a disease rather than going back and understanding the root cause of the problem and then addressing that.

  215. @mcohen

    @mcohen,

    “Those are the facts”

    We can argue about the facts all day. Fact is, we don’t know all the facts. Much better to understand the game and know the players.

  216. There are two many articles like this amongst the truth community, attempting to take a balanced higher ground. It is an error. It was an ideological war, left versus right, and the left is from the Jews. One might say “oh they were not all communists”, this may be true but they carry in high proportion a revolutionary spirit and an anti nationalist spirit. Lie to yourselves all you want and imagine yourself to be balanced, but you are just nor correct.

  217. The citizens of Hungary new that the jews had them locked down. People do not make this stuff up, no one in his right mind wants to be anti semitic but he becomes so over time when he understands that western people do not have anything in common with the jewish racial agenda, it is foreign to a Christian and basic goodness. The jews know that so they have to get control or be second class citizens (in their minds at least). Now look at what they have done to the USA, and the clown who wrote this article attempts to give them a pass. Wake up!

  218. Anon[382] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wally

    Was it the Polish threat to attack on Lithuania?

    Boy, those Lithuanians were lucky the Germans were around to protect them, otherwise they might have spent years under occupation by a foreign power. Or even more than one!

    But hey, lucky those terrific Germans were there to stop it.

    • Replies: @Wally
  219. Fox says:
    @Karel

    Germany existed since about the year 800 under a Kaiser – as an acting king of kings of the constituent political units, in some narrowly described circumstances. In 1870, it was only the Second German Empire coming into existence after the First ended in 1806 under Napoleon’s conquest.
    Austria was just one of the divisions of the German Reich, hence the Sudetenland or Alsace or East Prussia or the Netherlands or German Switzerland.
    Perhaps it is good to remember that the Sorbs and Czechs were living within the German Empire for more than a thousand years without losing their heritage or language (the Sorbs still live ina German enclave in Central Germany). Compare that to the East Germans or the Sudeten Germans and Germans living in enclaves in Bohemia or Poland before the war: It took a mere 26 years for the Poles and Czechs to eliminate everything German under their rule over German territories beginning in 1918.
    Nonetheless, it must be admitted that the Czechs with all their chauvinism show more intelligence than the Poles. The Czechs don’t demand reparations from Germany for the taking of German territories and driving the Germans away, the Poles do. Perhaps some people cannot be understood on rational grounds.

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  220. @Fox

    The Poles also believe the Americans will protect them from the big bad Russians, just like they thought the British would protect them from the big bad Germans in 1939. Completely clueless. They get what they deserve.

    • Replies: @Fox
  221. @SolontoCroesus

    Yeah very good point And I think we can break Americanism down to Anglo Protestantism = particularly the Prot ethic as it is understood by English Puritans. It was their way of understanding themselves as Chosen. Then began the backsliding into the Old Testament or Hebrew Bible. Temples are built to the money changers. Anglo Protestants worship Mamon. Who does Mamon better than the Jews? Jews are not nearly as manipulative in the Anglosphere as they are portrayed by the Right. They don’t have to be with so many Anglo -Jew wannabes. Meanwhile check out on Occidental the Anglican Church’s recent apologia to the Jews. In another generation Jesus will be considered a minor prophet. Then the Anglosphere will be the Judah Sphere

  222. Belchazar says:

    The post reformation churches did not heed Martin Luther’s warnings about the Jews and they were then fooled into making Jews central to their eschatology. Money is always the great seducer, how could the Jews be not the people of God if they were so successful in getting what they want, they reasoned. Jesus prayed that Christianiy would be one. Despite certain benefits that came from the reformation given the failure of Catholicism to maintain what it should have, there were losses, and this was one of the biggest. It was when the Jews seized their moment. The decievers trump card was always to pull the Christians down back with the Jews, he couldn’t have used anyone else, the Jew has the heel of the Christian, because of his own weakness.

  223. Fox says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    The irrational character of Poles as manifested in the communal goals and politics of Poland has long been evident. Due to the measures of the Allied policies this irrationality has been unbound. This has been a catastrophe for Europe, the west and the world.

    • Agree: Beefcake the Mighty
  224. Wally says:
    @Anon

    You must mean the German “occupation” which Lithuania supported, welcomed.

    You mean Lithuania who assisted the Germans in fighting the Communists.

    You mean the Germans for which neither you or anyone else have proof of the impossible “holocaust” narrative.

    These Holocaust deniers are very slick people. They justify everything they say with facts and figures.”

    – Steven Some, Chairman of the New Jersey Commission on Holocaust Education, Newark Star-Ledger, 23 Oct. 1996, p 15.

  225. The discussion about the History can’t be celebrated until the fear of Jewish Power will be bravely fought.
    Everyone knows the situation of the “extermination camps” by reading the books upon by Red Cross.
    No ashes around Auschwitz. Absurd gas chambers and impossible crematorium facilities. Many Jews against the tale of the Nazi camps.The Times Yearbook reports more Jews in 1948 than in 1939.
    The invention of the holocaust (renewed as Shoah by R.Murdoch in 1998 at Oxford meeting) is the biggest lie in the History. This is why the Jewish system fights frantically against everyone that only tries to tell the Truth with the weapon of free-speech killing laws.
    I think totally useless writing history books by keeping the psyconalytic monster (Freud teaches) in one side without considering the true manoeuvre of the Financial system (well directed by bankers as Baruch and accomplices) in inventing the Communism and both WWI and WW2.
    To discuss as in the article is as creating in a laboratory the History without considering the most important ingredient: the Truth.
    The “extermination” is a guilt charged on the shoulders of the German people – the loser – but soon brave and honest historians and journalist will go up.

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  226. Florin N. says: • Website

    “In their minds, as in those of right-wingers generally, the Bolshevik acts were transformed, irrationally, into Jewish acts, a transformation helped along by the existence of a high proportion of Jews among the early Bolshevik leaders.”

    This is absolute nonsense borne out of a desire to never make Jews, qua group, ever appear other than history’s Eternal and Sacred victim.

    So what if the other main faction was, allegedly, even more dominated by Jews? All that means is BOTH communist factions were dominates by the Jewish minority, no more than 7/8% of the population.

    When you think you know more than Russell, and Churchill and reporters like Wilton and by the way the US ambassador to Russia – you’ve left being a historian for fear of the Jews and being called names.

    The Truth is Anti-Semitic.

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  227. Florin N. says:
    @Robjil

    “Ancient Isrealites wiped out seven nations in Caanan to get Israel.”

    No, that’s what the Jews **said** happened.

    Living Descendants of Biblical Canaanites Identified Via DNA

    Genome sequenced from 3,700-year-old remains is found in today’s residents of Lebanon.
    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2017/07/canaanite-bible-ancient-dna-lebanon-genetics-archaeology/

    By Zionist pseudo-logic, the land that is now Israel belongs to the Lebanese, who per the genetics were there before there were ‘Jews.’

    Ah, but they never claimed g0d gave it to them in exchange for genocide.

  228. Florin N. says:
    @Leo Grellede

    The Nazis were horrific and killed many Jews, but the 6 million figure was pre-selected.
    Based on Jewish myths/numerology.

    https://goyimgazette.com/six-million-jewish-holocaust-myth/

    That it could be accepted as true, then made illegal to doubt, is an alarming indication of the extent of Jewish power over the West.

    The power to make lies history and to make The Truth “hate.”

  229. Florin N. says:
    @Florin N.

    … we can add the attempted Bolshevik coup in Germany – even Wiki can’t hide the overwhelming Jewishness of the leaders of the Spartacist uprising (no mention of that here when purporting to discuss how Commie atrocities set up “fascism” as a protective reaction ? Wow!)

    And in Hungary, the Jewishness of the communist leadership and arch-criminals is beyond dispute.

    The Old Bolsheviks were as Jewish in composition and motivation as our neocons (who should not be conflated with warmongers generally, btw).

    I have read over and over how it is ‘anti-Semitism’ to say the neocon movement was and is Jewish and Zionist in its essence.

    The people who say this are either woefully ignorant or deeply dishonest – whether put of fear of being called a Jew hater, or out of what amounts to Jewish Supremacism… facts inconvenient to the narrative of Jews as Eternal Sacred Victim must be suppressed.

    But facts are stubborn things

    https://www.voltairenet.org/article178638.html

  230. RoyJ says:

    That really resonates with what is in the news in the US today. A Bernie organizer was caught on tape discussing re-education camps for Trump supporters. Also, “Putting them up against the wall”. It seems that collectively we have no memory past the last 24 hour news cycle. Also in my home state there is a 2nd amendment rally in Richmond tomorrow where the governor is disarming people and threatening to lock up large masses of them. And the worst part is feeling absolutely powerless to make any difference at all. I voted. What a f*cking waste.

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