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Have you ever had the pleasure of dealing with an agent of the Federal government? For example, have you been audited by the IRS? Did you notice what the “Agent” does to gain access to his (or her) computer—by inserting a “Smart ID” into a slot? Did you ask how your personal information is protected from disclosure or theft? What is to prevent the Agent from copying files to a thumb drive and taking them home?

Regarding the Smart ID, the “HSPD-12” is discussed in this publicly available article; please note the following:

HSPD-12, FIPS 201 and the PIV Card

Homeland Security Presidential Directive 12 (HSPD-12), issued by President George W. Bush on August 27, 2004, mandated the establishment of a standard for identification of Federal government employees and contractors. HSPD-12 requires the use of a common identification credential for both logical and physical access to federally controlled facilities and information systems. The Department of Commerce and National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) were tasked with producing a standard for secure and reliable forms of identification. In response, NIST published Federal Information Processing Standard Publication 201 (FIPS 201), Personal Identity Verification (PIV) of Federal Employees and Contractors, issued on February 25, 2005, and a number of special publications that provide more detail on the implementation of the standard.

Both Federal agencies and enterprises have implemented FIPS 201-compliant ID programs and have issued PIV cards. The FIPS 201 PIV card is a smart card with both contact and contactless interfaces that is now being issued to all Federal employees and contractors…

Additional information about FIPS 201 can be found on the Government Identity/Credentialing Resources page, from NIST, and from the Secure Technology Alliance Access Control Council.

If you engage the IRS employee in conversation, remembering the adage you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar, you’ll learn the computer cannot be compromised—all data on the device are encrypted; the only access to it is via the Smart ID. Data can be copied to an external “thumb drive” but everything copied will be encrypted; any file on that thumb drive is only readable by that specific device. Wouldn’t this be true of NSA devices as well? Why does Snowden never discuss dealing with such encryption: how would it be possible?

In the Oliver Stone movie Snowden, as well as in any of Snowden’s descriptions of how he accessed the NSA computers, did you note either the depiction or reference to this universal Smart ID? How could Snowden be exempt from its requirement? Why wasn’t its use, which is public knowledge, shown or discussed? Per the above, the Smart ID is deployed in all government agencies: there are no exceptions. And while the financial portion (think of all those Goldman Sachs alumni at the U.S. Department of the Treasury) is likely the most powerful part of the financial-military-industrial-media-congressional complex that is the central power of the federal government, do you think that IRS systems are different and superior in security to what was employed by a contractor working for Booze-Allen Hamilton at the NSA? How many reading my words work at a large entity, not necessarily government, let us say a Fortune 1000 or higher? Do you have the ability to copy data unimpeded onto any external device? Can you surf the Internet at will? Or is everything you do on the computer network under constant, real-time scrutiny?

Did Edward Snowden, who has publicly criticized Google, mention Google is deployed as a search engine throughout the federal “intranet”? And can he catch a link to the Washington Post on the NSA homepage too? Or would he testify and can it be verified that NSA does not use Google (for example to obtain the PowerPoint he revealed) for searching for internal documents and procedures? Can anyone reading my words answer the questions I’ve posed so far and answer accurately and honestly with confirmatory evidence?

Edward Snowden would have us believe that the Eye of Sauron didn’t notice he was looking at gigabytes of data unrelated to his job function and using his computer to copy the data to external devices over a lengthy period of time. Are his supporters alleging he is so clever he could disappear from the “Eye of Sauron’s” view and be unnoticed? If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you in Crimea. ZeroHedge reported “IRS Agent Charged In Leak Of Michael Cohen Transactions To Michael Avenatti.” From the article:

John C. Fry, an analyst in the San Francisco IRS office who had worked for the agency since 2008, was charged with disclosing Cohen’s Suspicious Activity Reports (SARs) – nine months after we reported that it wouldn’t be difficult to track down the leaker due to a digital trail left behind from accessing the system.

However, don’t believe it takes nine months to identify such an unauthorized intrusion. Don’t think every keystroke isn’t monitored in real-time. So my question is: would the NSA, which has much more sensitive data (especially compromising information on the governing class) than tax returns and financial transactions have inferior capabilities than the IRS as to maintaing data security? Are we to believe the NSA lacks a “digital trail” when it comes to classified documents?

On another issue, why did Snowden provide his files to known house organs of Intelligence Agencies, specifically the Washington Post and The Guardian, and not give them to Wikileaks to allow a publicly available searchable database? As Roger Stone has noted, the odious Nixon was taken down principally by the CIA media front The Washington Post because he sought detente with Russia and another presidential assassination would have been too obvious. Notice the situation regarding the Snowden treasure trove as investigative journalist Whitney Webb writes about it here: “Silencing the Whistle: The Intercept Shutters Snowden Archive, Citing Cost.”

According to a timeline of events written by Poitras that was shared and published by journalist and former Intercept columnist Barrett Brown, both Scahill and Greenwald were intimately involved in the decision to close the Snowden archive.

While other outlets — such as the Jeff Bezos-owned Washington Post and the New York Times — also possess much (though not all) of the archive, the Intercept was the only outlet with the (full) archive that had continued to publish documents, albeit at a remarkably slow pace, in recent years. In total, fewer than 10 percent of the Snowden documents have been published since 2013. Thus, the closing of the publication’s Snowden archive will likely mean the end of any future publications, unless Greenwald’s promise of finding “the right partner … that has the funds to robustly publish” is fulfilled…

Yet, as Poitras pointed out, the research department accounted for a minuscule 1.5 percent of First Look Media’s budget. Greenwald’s claim that the archive was shuttered owing to its high cost to the company is also greatly undermined by the fact that he, along with several other Intercept employees — Reed and Scahill among them — receive massive salaries that dwarf those of journalists working for similar nonprofit publications.

Greenwald, for instance, received $1.6 million from First Look Media, of which Omidyar is the sole shareholder, from 2014 to 2017. His yearly salary peaked in 2015, when he made over $518,000. Reed and Scahill both earn well over $300,000 annually from First Look. According to journalist Mark Ames, Scahill made over $43,000 per article at the Intercept in 2014. Other writers at the site, by comparison, have a base salary of $50,000, which itself is higher than the national average for journalists.

And what about Snowden himself, the pontificator, the man who can speak on television or to the media with evidence of training? Practice yourself—see how well you can answer questions and speak publicly to a TV camera. How did he get his training? Who trained him? Why? How is it that the legacy media, which applauds the slow, painful execution of Julian Assange, be in rapture over Snowden’s new book tour and provide ample coverage? Is Assange being murdered in part to prevent his providing exculpatory evidence that Russia never hacked the DNC and it was a leak?

I have provided two videos below for the reader to consider and compare.

Look at how Bill Binney, a true techno-nerd speaks and compare the difference between him with the polished interviews given by Snowden who borders on pomposity. Also, to his favor Binney is doing his best to debunk the Russia hacking narrative of the DNC; Snowden makes his thoughts about Russia and Russians clear in his latest interview with Der Spiegel promoting his new book about himself:

DER SPIEGEL: Do you have Russian friends?

Snowden: I try to keep a distance between myself and Russian society, and this is completely intentional. I live my life with basically the English-speaking community. I’m the president of the Freedom of the Press Foundation. And, you know, I’m an indoor cat. It doesn’t matter where I am—Moscow, Berlin, New York — as long as I have a screen to look into.

DER SPIEGEL: Western authorities accuse the Russian government on a regular basis of being one of the biggest disrupters in the digital world. Are they right?

Snowden: Russia is responsible for a lot of negative activity in the world, you can say that right and fairly. Did Russia interfere with elections? Almost certainly. But do the United States interfere in elections? Of course. They’ve been doing it for the last 50 years. Any country bigger than Iceland is going to interfere in every crucial election, and they’re going to deny it every time, because this is what intelligence services do. This is explicitly why covert operations and influence divisions are created, and their purpose as an instrument of national power is to ask: How can we influence the world in a direction that improves our standing relative to all the other countries?

I am pleased to have played a small role in getting Stephen F. Cohen’s work published on Unz.com. He and others have effectively debunked Russian involvement in the manipulation of America elections and the conclusions of the Mueller report. To paraphrase a point Professor Cohen made in his most recent article posted here, which is simply common sense: We are to believe Trump is Putin’s puppet yet Putin simultaneously encouraged the preparation of a dossier to destroy him. Does that make sense to any one with half a brain? Do you believe Putin’s intelligence agencies don’t communicate to him how Washington as “organized crime” really operates, as Whitney Webb has disclosed, now on the pages of Unz.com? What difference does any compromised President make to the policies and goals of the occupational government of the United States (obvious to any reader of this and similar websites)?

Do you notice how Snowden never challenges any government narrative, whether it’s on Russia as a villain, and not as a victim of war initiated by Washington? Why is an alleged humanitarian such a Russophobe? Is this how he repays the nation that granted him asylum? Has he only compassion in the abstract, and is a genius but too stupid to consider the consequences of America going to war with Russia and in fact exacerbating the tension by his false and inflammatory statements about Russian conduct in the 2016 elections, for which there are no facts and evidence?

And then there’s the destruction of the World Trade Center buildings. Of course Snowden at NSA had no access to information on how and why it was done, but as Dmitri Orlov has written:

I suppose I am a “conspiracy theorist” too. Whenever I write something that questions the veracity of some official narrative, someone (probably a troll) pops up and asks me what I think of 9/11. Here is what I typically reply:

I totally believe that it was possible to knock down three steel-framed buildings using two flying aluminum cans loaded with kerosene, luggage and meat. I have proven that this is possible by throwing two beer cans at three chain-link fences. All three fences were instantly swallowed up by holes in the ground that mysteriously opened up right under them and in which they were instantaneously incinerated into fine oxide powder that coated the entire neighborhood. Anybody who does not believe my experimental results is obviously a tin-foil-hat crackpot conspiracy theorist.

Lots of people read this and ran away bleating; a few people bust a gut laughing because this is (trust me on this!) actually quite funny. Some people took offense at someone ridiculing an event in which thousands of people died. (To protect their tender sensibilities they should consider emigrating to a country that isn’t run by a bunch of war criminals.)

But if you do see the humor in this, then you may be up to the challenge, which is to pull out a useful signal (a typical experimentalist’s task) out of a mess of unreliable and contradictory data. Only then would you be in a position to persuasively argue—not prove, mind you!—that the official story is complete and utter bullshit.

Note that everything beyond that point, such as arguing what “the real story” is, is strictly off-limits. If you move beyond that point you open yourself up to well-organized, well-funded debunking. But if all you produce is a very large and imposing question mark, then the only way to attack it is by producing certainty—a very tall order! In conspiracy theory, as in guerrilla warfare, you don’t have to win. You just have to not lose long enough for the enemy to give up.

Has Snowden ever challenged the September 11 narrative, ludicrous as it is, and him being an “engineer?” And this last point is the reason I’m writing these words: I don’t have to come up with the “real story” on who Edward Snowden is and what his true motives are. I am asking questions that point out the discrepancies in Snowden’s statements and conduct and his alleged sanctity. In this article, “EXCLUSIVE REPORT: NSA Whistleblower: Snowden Never Had Access to the JUICIEST Documents … Far More Damning

WASHINGTON’S BLOG: Glenn Greenwald – supposedly, in the next couple of days or weeks – is going to disclose, based on NSA documents leaked by Snowden, that the NSA is spying on all sorts of normal Americans … and that the spying is really to crush dissent. [Background here, here and here.]

Does Snowden even have documents which contain the information which you’ve seen?

RUSSELL TICE: The answer is no.

WASHINGTON’S BLOG: So you saw handwritten notes. And what Snowden was seeing were electronic files …?

RUSSELL TICE: Think of it this way. Remember I told you about the NSA doing everything they could to make sure that the information from 40 years ago – from spying on Frank Church and Lord knows how many other Congressman that they were spying on – was hidden?

Now do you think they’re going to put that information into PowerPoint slides that are easy to explain to everybody what they’re doing?

They would not even put their own NSA designators on the reports [so that no one would know that] it came from the NSA. They made the reports look like they were Humint (human intelligence) reports. They did it to hide the fact that they were NSA and they were doing the collection. That’s 40 years ago. [The NSA and other agencies are still doing “parallel construction”, “laundering” information to hide the fact that the information is actually from mass NSA surveillance.]

Now, what NSA is doing right now is that they’re taking the information and they’re putting it in a much higher security level. It’s called “ECI” – Exceptionally Controlled Information – and it’s called the black program … which I was a specialist in, by the way.

I specialized in black world – DOD and IC (Intelligence Community) – programs, operations and missions … in “VRKs”, “ECIs”, and “SAPs”, “STOs”. SAP equals Special Access Program. It’s highly unlikely Mr. Snowden had any access to these. STO equals Special Technical Operations It’s highly unlikely Mr. Snowden had any access to these.

Now in that world – the ECI/VRK world – everything in that system is classified at a higher level and it has its own computer systems that house it. It’s totally separate than the system which Mr. Snowden was privy to, which was called the “JWICS”: Joint Worldwide Intelligence Communications System. The JWICS system is what everybody at NSA has access to. Mr Snowden had Sys Admin [systems administrator] authority for the JWICS.

And you still have to have TS/SCI clearance [i.e. Top Secret/ Sensitive Compartmented Information – also known as “code word” – clearance] to get on the JWICS. But the ECI/VRK systems are much higher [levels of special compartmentalized clearance] than the JWICS. And you have to be in the black world to get that [clearance].

ECI = Exceptionally Controlled Information. I do not believe Mr. Snowden had any access to these ECI controlled networks). VRK = Very Restricted Knowledge. I do not believe Mr. Snowden had any access to these VRK controlled networks.

These programs typically have, at the least, a requirement of 100 year or until death, ’till the person first being “read in” [i.e. sworn to secrecy as part of access to the higher classification program] can talk about them. [As an interesting sidenote, the Washington Times reported in 2006 that – when Tice offered to testify to Congress about this illegal spying – he was informed by the NSA that the Senate and House intelligence committees were not cleared to hear such information.]

It’s very compartmentalized and – even with stuff that they had – you might have something at NSA, that there’s literally 40 people at NSA that know that it’s going on in the entire agency.

When the stuff came out in the New York Times [the first big spying story, which broke in 2005] – and I was a source of information for the New York Times – that’s when President Bush made up that nonsense about the “terrorist surveillance program.” By the way, that never existed. That was made up.

There was no such thing beforehand. It was made up … to try to placate the American people.

The NSA IG (Inspector General) – who was not cleared for this – all of a sudden is told he has to do an investigation on this; something he has no information or knowledge of.

So what they did, is they took a few documents and they downgraded [he classification level of the documents] – just a few – and gave them to them to placate this basic whitewash investigation.

Snowden’s Failure To Understand the Most Important Documents

RUSSELL TICE: Now, if Mr. Snowden were to find the crossover, it would be those documents that were downgraded to the NSA’s IG.

The stuff that I saw looked like a bunch of alphanumeric gobbledygook. Unless you have an analyst to know what to look for – and believe me, I think that what Snowden’s done is great – he’s not an intelligence analyst. So he would see something like that, and he wouldn’t know what he’s looking at.

But that would be “the jewels”. And the key is, you wouldn’t know it’s the jewels unless you were a diamond miner and you knew what to look for. Because otherwise, there’s a big lump of rock and you don’t know there’s a diamond in there.

I worked special programs. And the way I found out is that I was working on a special operation, and I needed information from NSA … from another unit. And when I went to that unit and I said “I need this information”, and I dealt with [satellite spy operations], and I did that in the black world. I was a special operations officer. I would literally go do special missions that were in the black world where I would travel overseas and do spooky stuff.

Did we really need Snowden to have told us that the Internet, federally controlled, does not allow anyone a modicum of privacy and the government after implementing the Patriot Act considers ordinary Americans the enemy?

In “Inconsistencies and Unanswered Questions: The Risks of Trusting the Snowden Story” Kevin Ryan wrote:

Journalist Margie Burns asked some good questions back in June that have not yet been answered. She wondered about the 29-year old Snowden who had been a U.S. Army Special Forces recruit, a covert CIA operative, and an NSA employee in various capacities, all in just a few, short years. Burns asked “How, exactly, did Snowden get his series of NSA jobs? Did he apply through regular channels? Was it through someone he knew? Who recommended him? Who were his references for a string of six-figure, high-level security jobs? Are there any safeguards in place so that red flags go up when a subcontractor jumps from job to job, especially in high-level clearance positions?”

Five months later, journalists Mark Ames and Yasha Levine investigated some of the businesses in which Greenwald’s benefactor Omidyar had invested. They found that the actual practices of those businesses were considerably less humanitarian than the outward appearance of Omidyar’s ventures often portray. The result was that Omidyar took down references to at least one of those businesses from his website.

In December, whistleblower Sibel Edmonds broke the news that Omidyar‘s Paypal Corporation was implicated in the as-yet-unreleased NSA documents from Snowden. Moreover, Edmonds had allegedly been contacted by an NSA official who alleged that “a deal was made in early June, 2013 between the journalists involved in this recent NSA scandal and U.S. government officials, which was then sealed by secrecy and nondisclosure agreements by all parties involved.”

It would appear that Snowden’s whistleblowing has been co-opted by private corporate interests. Are those involved with privatization of the stolen documents also colluding with government agencies to frame and direct national discussions on domestic spying and other serious matters?

The possibilities are endless, it seems. Presenting documents at a measured rate could be a way to acclimate citizens to painful realities without stirring the public into a panic or a unified response that might actually threaten the status quo. And considering that the number of documents has somehow grown from only thousands to nearly two million, it seems possible that those in control could release practically anything, thereby controlling national dialogue on many topics.

Please read the final paragraph above twice and think about the points raised about acclimating citizens and controlling national dialog. Is Snowden as much of a “Pied Piper” as QAnon? How did Snowden describe the nature of the CIA and NSA in this earlier interview with Der Spiegel?

DER SPIEGEL: But those people see you as their biggest enemy today.

Snowden: My personal battle was not to burn down the NSA or the CIA. I even think they actually do have a useful role in society when they limit themselves to the truly important threats that we face and when they use their least intrusive means.

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Snowden: It wasn’t that difficult. Everybody is currently pointing at the Russians.

DER SPIEGEL: Rightfully?

Snowden: I don’t know. They probably did hack the systems of Hillary Clinton’s Democratic Party, but we should have proof of that. In the case of the hacking attack on Sony, the FBI presented evidence that North Korea was behind it. In this case they didn’t, although I am convinced that they do have evidence. The question is why?

DER SPIEGEL: Mike Pompeo, the new head of the CIA, has accused WikiLeaks, whose lawyers helped you, of being a mouthpiece for the Russians. Is that not harmful to your image as well?

Snowden: First, we should be fair about what the accusations are. I don’t believe the U.S. government or anybody in the intelligence community is directly accusing Julian Assange or WikiLeaks of working directly for the Russian government. The allegations I understand are that they were used as a tool basically to wash documents that had been stolen by the Russian government. And, of course, that’s a concern. I don’t see that as directly affecting me because I’m not WikiLeaks and there is no question about the provenance of the documents that I dealt with.

DER SPIEGEL: Currently, there’s another American guy out there who is accused of being too close to Putin.

Snowden: Oh (laughs).

DER SPIEGEL: Your president. Is he your president?

Snowden: The idea that half of American voters thought that Donald Trump was the best among us, is something that I struggle with. And I think we will all be struggling with it for decades to come.

DER SPIEGEL: But isn’t there reason to fear terrorism?

Snowden: Sure there is. Terrorism is a real problem. But when we look at how many lives it has claimed in basically any country that is outside of war zones like Iraq or Afghanistan, it is so much less than, say, car accidents or heart attacks. Even if Sept. 11 were to happen every single year in the U.S., terrorism would be a much lower threat than so many other things.

No, no one is accusing Wikileaks of conspiring with Russia, just Robert Mueller. I really appreciate Snowden calling Julian Assange a liar, for he has consistently denied there was a “state actor.”

“Terrorism is a real problem” Snowden said. Is it credible that Snowden, who presented himself as donating funds to Ron Paul, has never read any alternative news sites? Is it credible that Snowden believes that terrorists and this would include the good “moderate terrorists” in Syria are armed and act on their own initiative, and is ignorant of the role of the governments of America, Israel, and Saudi Arabia in using them to achieve their ends as proxy armies? Does Snowden then think this report, “America Created Al-Qaeda and the ISIS Terror Group” is false? Does that mindset make Snowden a champion for liberty or a tool for more control of the American population? For example, is it credible that this alleged genius supports the narrative of the September 11 attacks World Trade Center attacks? Whom do you trust, the contributors to these very pages or Edward Snowden?

Snowden has promoted the use of the Tor Browser. ZeroHedge posted this article, “Tor Project ‘Almost 100% Funded By The US Government’: FOIA” which noted:

The Tor Project – a private nonprofit known as the “NSA-proof” gateway to the “dark web,” turns out to be almost “100% funded by the US government” according to documents obtained by investigative journalist and author Yasha Levine.

In a recent blog post, Levine details how he was able to obtain roughly 2,500 pages of correspondence via FOIA requests while performing research for a book. The documents include strategy, contract, budgets and status updates between the Tor project and its primary source of funding; a CIA spinoff known as the Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG), which “oversees America’s foreign broadcasting operations like Radio Free Asia and Radio Free Europe.”

By following the money, I discovered that Tor was not a grassroots. I was able to show that despite its indie radical cred and claims to help its users protect themselves from government surveillance online, Tor was almost 100% funded by three U.S. National Security agencies: the Navy, the State Department and the BBG. Following the money revealed that Tor was not a grassroots outfit, but a military contractor with its own government contractor number. In other words: it was a privatized extension of the very same government that it claimed to be fighting.

The documents conclusively showed that Tor is not independent at all. The organization did not have free reign to do whatever it wanted, but was kept on a very short leash and bound by contracts with strict contractual obligations. It was also required to file detailed monthly status reports that gave the U.S. government a clear picture of what Tor employees were developing, where they went and who they saw. -Yasha Levine

The FOIA documents also suggest that Tor’s ability to shield users from government spying may be nothing more than hot air. While no evidence of a “backdoor” exists, the documents obtained by Levine reveal that Tor has “no qualms with privately tipping off the federal government to security vulnerabilities before alerting the public, a move that would give the feds an opportunity to exploit the security weakness long before informing Tor users.”

Interestingly, Edward Snowden is a big fan of Tor – even throwing a “cryptoparty” while he was still an NSA contractor where he set up a Tor exit node to show off how cool they are.

In a 2015 interview with The Intercept’s (Wikileaks hating) Micah Lee, Snowden said:

LEE: What do you think about Tor? Do you think that everyone should be familiar with it, or do you think that it’s only a use-it-if-you-need-it thing?

SNOWDEN: I think Tor is the most important privacy-enhancing technology project being used today.

“Tor Browser is a great way to selectively use Tor to look something up and not leave a trace that you did it. It can also help bypass censorship when you’re on a network where certain sites are blocked. If you want to get more involved, you can volunteer to run your own Tor node, as I do, and support the diversity of the Tor network.”

Tor lists on its own website sponsors that include Google, the U.S. Department of State Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights, and Labor, ONR via Naval Research Laboratory (past sponsor) and DARPA.

When Julian Assange was taken from the Ecuadoran embassy, he was carrying a copy of Gore Vidal: History of the National Security State & Vidal on America. As an older article on Vidal in The Guardian noted, “Gore Vidal claims ‘Bush junta’ complicit in 9/11.”

Isn’t it odd by doing what he did with Vidal’s book Assange makes the point the legitimacy of Washington must be challenged, but Snowden never does, other than offering suggestions for tinkering at the margins, perhaps advising we use DuckDuckGo instead of Google to give us the illusion of privacy? Did Snowden, for someone who is in front of a computer screen for most of the day, make public the facts obtained by Whitney Webb in her piece “How the CIA, Mossad and ‘the Epstein Network’ Are Exploiting Mass Shootings to Create an Orwellian Nightmare” posted on Unz.com which goes in depth into the Orwellian hell we are facing, for as Webb concludes:

With companies like Carbyne — with its ties to both the Trump administration and to Israeli intelligence — and the Mossad-linked Gabriel also marketing themselves as “technological” solutions to mass shootings while also doubling as covert tools for mass data collection and extraction, the end result is a massive surveillance system so complete and so dystopian that even George Orwell himself could not have predicted it.

Following another catastrophic mass shooting or crisis event, aggressive efforts will likely follow to foist these “solutions” on a frightened American public by the very network connected, not only to Jeffrey Epstein, but to a litany of crimes and a frightening history of plans to crush internal dissent and would-be dissenters in the United States.

There is the concept of willful blindness that I think applies to much of what Snowden has done, if not something altogether more nefarious—distorations, misrepresenations, and outright lies, in addition to hubris. What is the point I’m making? Perhaps Snowden is only a Soros and Hillary Clinton supporting liberal—but then why would he have done what he did? His character is of any government employee of the “surface state” who swallows false narratives whole.

I only wish the reader fairly and intelligently consider the questions I have raised. For I am encouraging you to think very carefully before you trust the statements, purpose, motives, and truthfulness of the secular saint, Edward Snowden.

Yvonne Lorenzo makes her home in New England in a house full to bursting with books, including works on classical Greece. Her interests include gardening, mythology, ancient history, The Electric Universe, and classical music, especially the compositions of Handel, Mozart, Bach, Haydn, Tchaikovsky, Mahler, and the Bel Canto repertoire. She is the author of the novels the Son of Thunder and The Cloak of Freya and has contributed to LewRockwell.com and TheSaker.IS.

 
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  1. Edward Snowden is a typical American fachidiot who, despite their protestations is a striver and bootlick for the Empire. I genuinely believe that he is puzzled as to why it has turned against him. He deserves his destiny of forever languishing in political purgatory.

    Several years later, practically nobody remembers him here in the US, and possible elsewhere (save for when it is convenient for the media). Julian Assange was a far more daring, more insightful figure.

    (As an aside, I am curious about the author’s liking of bel canto. Lot of birdbrain music to my ears; I prefer Wagner, Strauss, Schreker, and Berg. Also, the older I get, the more I realize that Schoenberg was by far the greater genius than Mahler.)

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    , @Realist
  2. ikki says:

    The logging of user and information accessed is sure added to the file. But real time supervision? No. A eye of sauron? Please. The system isnt there to prevent crime, its to track down the criminal and deeds later. And yes everything takes a very long time on the public side.
    You know, 16:00 hours the mouse just drops dead from the hand. Public servants dont give a damn if a job is made fast or efficient, only that procedure if followed and that it is eventually done. Unless priorities are reassigned, stuff left halfway undone in disarray is no problem when reassigned.

    Just as keeping secret private archives of more or less job related data is all standard procedure. That is keep a load of data n your personal folders and move those into whatever form desired. Security is not very tight. Only in the sense that eventually every person with hours and access point etc data can be recovered if so ordered to.

    So stealing data out of that system shouldn’t be terribly hard. Just email it to a private email. Or store on something else and transport out. For one Hillary was doing the same thing for ages. In that case tho “what difference does it make”

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  3. Why does the author distrust the Snowden story while taking the Assange saga at face value?

    • Agree: Johnny Walker Read
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  4. Unintended perhaps, but still…

    Quantum bits, or qubits, which are often atoms, electrons or photons, can exist as zeros and ones at the same time, or in any position between, a flexibility that allows them to process information in new ways. Some physicists compare them to a spinning coin that is simultaneously in a heads and tails state.

    In his talk, Pan detailed how China is harnessing qubits to safeguard its communications from hacking — one of the fields in which China appears to have a lead over the West.

    Pan and his team are aiming to launch a constellation of satellites and a nationwide fiber-optic network that use qubits to securely transmit information. An almost 1,300-mile fiber link connecting Beijing, Shanghai and other cities is already up and running. So is a satellite China launched in 2016, which has conducted several prominent experiments, including facilitating a hacking-resistant video conference between Beijing and Vienna.

    When the network is complete, it could complicate U.S. efforts to eavesdrop on China’s government or military communications, some Western scientists say.

    “I predict China will go black in two to three years — we won’t be able to read anything,” said Jonathan Dowling, a physics professor at Louisiana State University who spends part of the year as a visiting faculty member at USTC in Shanghai.

    Others argue that even if China’s network equipment is more secure, it could still be hacked by manipulating the humans running the system.

    If the technology gains traction globally, China could be in a strong position to sell it, given the large number of patents its universities and companies have registered for devices and technology relating to quantum communication and encryption, according to Patinformatics.

    Pan has credited Edward Snowden for motivating China’s quantum research. The former National Security Agency contractor’s revelations about NSA eavesdropping led China to pour money into developing more secure communications, Pan has said in published interviews.

    https://www.checkpointasia.net/the-quantum-revolution-is-coming-and-chinese-scientists-are-at-the-forefront/

  5. I am waiting to see what Brabantian says …

  6. Horst G says:

    There was an interview with Edward in the German magazine Der Spiegel this month, Nr. 18. In it, we get the tale, he copied material on SD cards, and smugeled them in his mouth, or inside a “magic cube” out of the base on Hawaii, passsing “guards”. A cube, the occult symbol, how blatant, just mocking the profane. On the technical side, I got a story from a German BMW factory. A bunch of guys on nightshift plugged a USB Harddisk into a PC to watch a movie. Minutes later they received a call from the IT, it had been recognized remotely. What a charade. It has the taste of Jewish tales, smuggling stuff, tricking guards of an evil system.

    • Replies: @anon
  7. Tusk says:

    Great article, thanks Ron for publishing.

    • Agree: GMC
  8. der einzige says: • Website

    I recommend these articles from Jon Rappaport, unfortunately, wordpress deleted his blog.

    Matrix: Who is Edward Snowden?
    https://www.radios.cz/en/articles/matrix-who-is-edward-snowden/

    Snowden and the final purpose of the Surveillance State
    https://www.radios.cz/en/articles/snowden-and-the-final-purpose-of-the-surveillance-state/

    Operation Snowjob
    https://www.radios.cz/en/articles/operation-snowjob/

    and this

    Russia gov report Snowden Greenwald are CIA frauds
    https://www.radios.cz/en/articles/russia-gov-report-snowden-greenwald-are-cia-frauds/

    • Agree: Alfred
    • Replies: @Yvonne Lorenzo
  9. Nice to have a piece helping point to the truth, that Glenn Greenwald & Edward Snowden are CIA frauds, as every major government knows

    ‘Edward Snowden’ who first ‘leaked’ to the CIA’s Washington Post, in fact to Bush VP Dick Cheney’s biographer Bart Gellman … then the Deep State realised that was too stupid, so they switched to Rothschild employee & ex-gay-pornography-seller Glenn Greenwald, former proprietor of ‘hairystuds’, at the Guardian, an intel-agency rag which lies about nearly everything

    Vladmir Putin himself hinting out loud he knows Snowden is fake, and ‘Snowden asylum’ is a game of back-door favours between Russia & the USA, few in the West pick up on it
    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/09/21/russia-govt-report-snowden-greenwald-are-cia-frauds/

    Despite the Snowden-Assange mutual sniping in their media-star rivalry, Julian Assange is also a CIA-Mossad asset, as Bibi Netanyahu himself has boasted to Israeli media, regarding aggressively pro-Zionist, anti-Palestinian Julian, equally anti-9-11-truth along with Eddie Snowden

    As loyal CIA assets, neither Assange and Snowden dare to mention USA Virginia fed judge bribery files that have blocked other extraditions, tho these files would make their own extraditions impossible, if these CIA fakers really cared about their own ‘defence’

    Zbigniew Brzezinski on 29 Nov 2010, on the US public television PBS News Hour, also admitted Assange was intel, his Wikileaks ‘selected’

    People trusting Assange are dead, Peter W Smith, Seth Rich; others jailed

    Very darkly, it is unknown how many dissidents Snowden and also Julian Assange helped silence or even kill, both of them a ‘rat trap’ for trusting whistle-blowers
    https://www.henrymakow.com/2018/11/assange-snowden-rat-traps.html

    You will notice that Assange & Snowden both got famous via CIA – MI6 media, NY Times, UK Guardian, who are never interested in real dissidents

    Assange shared lawyer with Rothschilds, Rothschild sister-in-law posted Assange bail, Assange has ties to George Soros too

    Early on, Assange helped Rothschilds destroy rival bank Julius Baer … that is ‘progressive Wiki-leaking’ for you

    Assange had a weird childhood with Aussie mind-control cult ‘the Family’

    Things like ‘Assange living at Ecuador Embassy’ – ‘now in Belmarsh prison’ – easily faked, Assange moved in & out for photos by MI5 MI6, police under national security orders … ‘Snowden’ is not necessarily in Russia either

    Assange & Snowden de-legitimise real dissidents, because people say, ‘Wikileaks – NY Times – UK Guardian would cover it if it was true’

  10. NeonRevolt once floated the theory that Snowden was an FBI or CIA plant who whistleblew solely because he had the mission to undermine NSA operations by exposing their equipment/techniques and turning public opinion against them.
    I completely understand if people are leery of the theorycrafting of a Q tracker, but I do believe that this suggestion is plausible. Setting aside attempts at placing it in context of a Deep State war, inter-service rivalry and sabotage between spy agencies is absolutely a thing, and reviewing the inconsistencies of Snowden’s stunt, its aftermath, and his personal views with that potential background in mind suddenly makes things make much more sense, in my mind at least.

  11. Interesting, thought-provoking article.
    It asks us to balance up competing interests & advantages.
    On the one hand we can assume Snowden is “real” or not. That is, he’s a genuine whistle blower, or he’s a government psy-op’s plant.
    If we accept the later, that he’s a plant, then it raises a further question: was the short term loss, associated with his revelations, ie highlighting the utterly disturbing degree of Gov surveillance over US citizens (etc) worth the long term profit of having an established, authoritive psy-op’s agent able to influence/distort etc any debate or narrative concerning the US State /elites. On this side the author notes Snowmen’s views on Tor, 9/11, Russia etc which clearly advantage the US State’s own views on these subjects.
    I don’t know the answer — except that this article raises serious questions, suspicions , about
    Snowden’s authenticity.

  12. Franz says:

    Never for a moment considered Snowden any sort of secular saint.

    Snowden for the most part only confirmed the downward trajectory of the formerly at least interesting filmmaker, Oliver Stone. If JFK was worth a laugh (and evidently did get a few people thinking about the phoniness of Dallas ’63 for the first time), Snowden was total chloroform on screen. Sad to see Ollie hit such lows.

    This bit is interesting:

    When Julian Assange was taken from the Ecuadoran embassy, he was carrying a copy of Gore Vidal: History of the National Security State & Vidal on America. As an older article on Vidal in The Guardian noted, “Gore Vidal claims ‘Bush junta’ complicit in 9/11.”

    As batty as Vidal may have been, it is a fact he was the first American with any sort of national recognition to speak out against the National Security State, starting in the Eisenhower years. His fury was partly stoked by their meddling in Central America, but he stayed at it. Even gave it a mention in a movie he had a gag role in, Bob Roberts, 1992.

    His favorite line (variously rendered) was “Harry Truman signed the United States of America into oblivion in February, 1949” which was when the NSA papers were drawn up, giving us the security state, the CIA and the whole shebang. Anytime before, any US citizen could demand accounting of any government project, no matter what. Afterward, the rule by secrecy applied.

    Vidal had been a WWII veteran and deplored all that came about after. Credit is due for that.

    • Replies: @anon
  13. wayfarer says:

    Even if you’re not doing anything wrong, you are being watched and recorded. The NSA has built an infrastructure that allows it to intercept almost everything. With this capability, the vast majority of human communications are automatically ingested without targeting. If I wanted to see your emails or your wife’s phone calls, all I have to do is use intercepts. I can get your emails, passwords, phone records, credit cards. – Edward Snowden

    https://www.brainyquote.com/authors/edward-snowden-quotes

    • Replies: @Agent76
  14. Nik says:

    Both Assuange and Snowden are agent patsys

  15. Who is this dizzy chick?

    Snowden, exiled and isolated in Russia, is some sort of USG crypto-agent…or something?

    I suppose that if you’re going to look for outside-the-box commentary and analysis, you’re going to get some of this sort of nonsense. I guess you can’t expect to hit a home run every time.

    • Agree: Saggy
    • Replies: @anon
  16. @Nicolás Palacios Navarro

    “Edward Snowden is a typical American fachidiot who, despite their protestations is a striver and bootlick for the Empire. I genuinely believe that he is puzzled as to why it has turned against him. He deserves his destiny of forever languishing in political purgatory.”

    And yet this “striver and bootlick for the Empire” is exiled in Russia. So some guy sacrifices an enjoyable and secure life to go live in Russia and all you can say is that “he deserves his destiny?”

    “Several years later, practically nobody remembers him here in the US”

    And this is a reflection on him or on the rest of us?

  17. anon[260] • Disclaimer says:
    @Oscar Peterson

    She starts off with a falsehood:

    > Edward Snowden would have us believe that the Eye of Sauron didn’t notice

    He states exactly the opposite. I quit reading her garbage after that.

  18. AmRusDebate says: • Website

    Comfortable living in Moscow, vs. Belmarsh, makes all the difference in the world.

    You might be right about Snowden, you might not be, but were Assange living in a Russian city, far out of reach of NeoconiaDC, Bill Blaney would show him greater respect…believe me.

  19. anon[260] • Disclaimer says:
    @Horst G

    Boy howdy, a Rubik’s Cube is now magical, profane, occult, and eerily symbolic, because it’s cubical! And geometry class is a satanic false flag op of oppressive propaganda taught by crypto-Jews! Who else could be interested in IRRATIONAL numbers like π? PYTHAGORAS WAS A MOSSAD AGENT!

    • Replies: @Horst G
    , @AB_Anonymous
  20. @Oscar Peterson

    And yet this “striver and bootlick for the Empire” is exiled in Russia. So some guy sacrifices an enjoyable and secure life to go live in Russia and all you can say is that “he deserves his destiny?”

    His “sacrifice” was inadvertent and involuntary. The fact that he seems not to appreciate the sanctuary offered to him by Russia—has he not repeatedly expressed the desire to go elsewhere?—says a lot. From everything I have read about him, it would appear that he regards his exile not as something to be borne with dignity, but as something to pout over as does a child who unexpectedly did not get his way.

    Julian Assange, on the other hand, sacrificed much more and did so willingly and courageously. He had no illusions about the consequences that he would face for his beliefs and actions.

    And this is a reflection on him or on the rest of us?

    Both. Nobody remembers anything here in the US anyway, least of all people and events which do not flatter the national mythos. In the case of this would-be patriot—the scion of a family that grew fat at the government teat, and who himself has made a tidy profit from his exile—his unofficial damnatio memoriæ is deserved.

    • Replies: @Oscar Peterson
  21. anon[260] • Disclaimer says:
    @Franz

    > …veteran…Credit is due for that.

    Maybe you ought to give Snowden some credit for his military service too. Fair is fair.

    Snowden enlisted in the United States Army Reserve on May 7, 2004, and became a Special Forces candidate through its 18X enlistment option.[39] He did not complete the training.[12] After breaking both legs in a training accident,[40] he was discharged on September 28, 2004.[41]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden#Career

    • Replies: @Franz
  22. @Brabantian

    Is Seth Rich dead ? OpDeepState.com : “The ‘murder’ of Seth Rich – Everything we thought we knew is wrong !” by Lisa Phillips . “The MOSSAD infiltrated Clinton’s campaign with a Sayanim contractor – Seth Rich – … this OP took Hillary right out of the race .”

  23. anon[260] • Disclaimer says:

    Tor is a great tool, if you know how to use it correctly. The US gov’t know people don’t know how to use it correctly, and sets up exit nodes to spy on idiots, like this:

    In 2007 Egerstad set up just five Tor exit nodes and used them to intercept thousands of private emails, instant messages and email account credentials.

    Amongst his unwitting victims were the Australia, Japanese, Iranian, India and Russia embassies,….

    Dan Egerstad proved then that exit nodes were a fine place to spy on people and his research convinced him in 2007, long before Snowden, that governments were funding expensive, high bandwidth exit nodes for exactly that purpose.

    Tor is a fine security project and an excellent component in a strategy of defence in depth but it isn’t (sadly) a cloak of invisibility.

    Exit nodes, just like fake Wi-Fi hotspots, are an easy and tempting way for attackers to silently insert themselves into a network.

    By running an exit node they can sit there as an invisible man-in-the-middle on a system that people choose when they want extra privacy and security.

    Can you trust Tor’s exit nodes?
    https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2015/06/25/can-you-trust-tors-exit-nodes/

    So just assume the US gov’t is your exit node, thank them silently for paying for you to use it free, and keep your info encrypted.

    • Replies: @Republic
  24. Svevlad says:

    Both him and Assange are spooks

  25. Well, this is refreshing. I agree wholeheartedly about Snowden and have the same reservations. My feelings about Assange, however, aren’t much different. Julian has not challenged the 9/11 narrative either to be fair. I am inclined to see them both as limited hangouts. Snowden’s ‘revelations’ were all old news to anyone who’d been paying attention for 10 years before his appearance. Even other whistleblowers, none of whom got any media coverage, had spoken of much of it previously. I see them both as pied pipers and nothing more. I think Russian intelligence services are perfectly well aware of what Snowden is and have kept him at arms length themselves. Not much they could do but play along but nothing suggests they ever saw him as any sort of ‘coup’

    Anyone who still plays along with the 9/11 bullshit narrative isn’t worth a damn anyway.

  26. @animalogic

    Consider that nothing Snowden revealed was news. It was all old hat for anyone who’d been paying attention, and for up to ten years. Sure Snowden made it mainstream…for what good it did…but nothing he said was a secret anymore. In fact, I thought even at the time his actions were nothing less than a ‘threat and warning’ from the intel services that they had this much on everyone. Just imagine all those national leaders, politicians from all states being pout on notice. All your secrets are ours! What a powerful global message to deliver and in such a loud and clear fashion.

    The lack of deviation from official bullshit on 9/11 is on its own however reason enough to toss this guy out. Snowden NEVER impressed me for a moment and honestly, nor has Assange. I believe they’re both working for the other side still. By the way, Julian Assange has actually denigrated 9/11 truthers a number of times.

    • Replies: @Republic
  27. Horst G says:
    @anon

    It’s in the magazine, page 82, quote “Zauberwürfel”. Presented by me, for you to get the picture. Maybe you haven’t seen enough cubes around, to get that humor. In real life, copying material on devices will be followed by arrest, no interview, no journey to some exile. This whole tale is not funny, it’s evil on many levels. Your sarcasm is disturbing.

    • Replies: @anon
  28. Realist says:
    @Nicolás Palacios Navarro

    Several years later, practically nobody remembers him here in the US, and possible elsewhere (save for when it is convenient for the media). Julian Assange was a far more daring, more insightful figure.

    I disagree, there are plenty of people who remember him. The problem is they don’t care, most Americans would rather watch America’s Got Talent or Dancing With The Stars than do something about our corrupt political system.

  29. @Johnny Walker Read

    And…

    2013 Edward Snowden ‘leaked stolen documents’ … (1) ‘Leaked’ to Dick Cheney friend at CIA WashPost, Rothschild employee Greenwald (2) Anti-9-11-truth (3) Nothing really new beyond more than 5+ previous NSA whistleblowers (4) Has CIA lawyers, worked with Brzezinski son, promoted by Brzezinski daughter, fake CV history (5) Known as fake to all major gov intel agencies

    https://aanirfan.blogspot.com/search?q=snowden

    • Replies: @Johnny Walker Read
  30. @Johnny Walker Read

    This is absolutely dynamite material, it blows to smithereens any notion that Edward Snowden is anything other than a fraud, a CIA disinfo op.

    So now we can place him alongside Julian Assange and Wikileaks in the rogue’s gallery of professional liars. This report also exposes several other media outlets as being under CIA control, something we have known for some time…

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/09/21/russia-govt-report-snowden-greenwald-are-cia-frauds/

  31. Snowden, unlike Assange, largely suffered from pussy deprivation and like those who suffer from sleep deprivation, is liable to do anything. But just as one, after catching up with some good sleep on vacation, is ready for the high wire act, Snowden, after plentiful supply of easily available Russian pussies, must be ready to jump through the hoops for a return ticket to America!

    • Replies: @anon
  32. @animalogic

    I don’t know the answer — except that this article raises serious questions, suspicions , about
    Snowden’s authenticity.

    To my mind “9/11, attitude to”, is a sort of touch-stone for telling genuine dissidents from fake and both Snowden and Assange fail on that test. I don’t have a reference for it, but I saw it in correspondence on this site. There was a video of a lecture given by Assange, where someone asked him about 9/11. He looked extremely embarrassed and then replied that he thought that it was “not very important” (Sic!) and changed the subject.

    I am less sure of this but I think I saw something similar in an interview with Snowden. Perhaps someone else can remind me of exact references?

  33. Amon says:

    This is the same government whose leaders secure their laptops with the secret code “pas$word” and require the producers of computers to give them full access via day one exploits along with tailor fitted programs that are easier to hack.

    That Snowden got away with what he did is not that shocking.

  34. These days Snowden has become a generic term for whistleblowing on the Deep State tech spying, like xerox for copying.

    I suppose someone here wants to remind us that this was _really_ the first copier, patented in 1879:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gestetner

    The truth or falsity of the original “myth” becames moot at some point.

    The Deep State is spying. They do have hardware and software and monkey in the middle hacks. They do trade intelligence with other spy agencies, domestic and foreign. They lie about it through the Mockingbird media.

    _That_ is what is important.

    Snowden’s bona fides are “inside baseball”, and minor league baseball at that.

    .gov IT security is a joke–millions of pages of regulations, proclamations, millions of hours of management meetings, goals, powerpoint slides–ultimately easily outmatched by any determined hackers (whether in mom’s basement or an intelligence agency’s basement).

    • Replies: @PetrOldSack
  35. CIA Edward Snowden? Most Americans prefer to have their computers wide open where Government agents can play with FBI approved pornography.

    The NSA listens to all of your phone calls and collects all your emails and watches you on social media. The smarter zombies might ask how could a low level employee like Snowden first steal tons of super sensitive and politically charged data and then do a “daring” escape through Hong Kong to Russia? The answer is ratings. It makes a great movie. You have to believe it just enough to debate it.

    Now Pamela Anderson likes the lanky nerd Assange and that’s provocative too. Great theater. Clearly the Government prefers to hide everything in plain sight.

  36. Antiwar7 says:

    If he was a sys admin, that probably meant he had the rights to install, remove, enable, and disable the various safety guards and security checks discussed in this article.

  37. sally says:
    @Jonathan Revusky

    Yvonne Lorenzo paper suggest suspect issues exist to support Snowden’s story but finds Assange’s saga to be
    based in epic, consistent, continued resistance to the organized forces at work in governments and high profile international corporations and agencies to keep secret things which expose officials as criminals.

    <=the difference is consistency, scope and finger points. Assange has been consistent.. always seeking to make available as much as he could, always with as much clarity as possible; making the point where he could, that much of what he exposed seems to be in the domain of organized crime. Assange often exposes high profile persons and tags them with evidence to connect them to prior and current organized crime or obviously corrupt activities. Assange shows these persons or governments or agencies are involved in secret diplomatic activities, the secrecy of which seem always to be protected by judicial and legal processes

    The Assange story paints a picture that suggest globally organized crime has come into possession and now manages and controls many well armed domestic governments and that selected agencies of government have been enabling selected private enterprises. Assange exposes intelligence services of many different nations to be a bank, corporation, and agency inter connects that coordinate infrastructure destruction, invasion, regime change, and war, and that these events are often followed by opportunistic privatization.

    Snowden merely says a few things are wrong and should be corrected. in time the government will fix its own mistakes. I do not know if Snowden is a Trojan, but nothing Assange has done suggest he is and governments have treated Assange as anything but one of them. My opinion.

    • Agree: annamaria
    • Replies: @PetrOldSack
  38. @Nicolás Palacios Navarro

    I agree that Assange has suffered much more than Snowden, but why hold that against the latter?

    Snowden took a risk to publicize what he thought was important information indicating a dangerous trend in US policy. He wasn’t willing to offer himself up as a lamb to the slaughter, so it’s true that his sacrifice is not perhaps the ultimate one. He seems to have thought he could remain in Hong Kong but didn’t realize that China was never going to compromise relations with the US to protect him. Putin wouldn’t have either except that the US was so imperious in demanding his return that Putin really couldn’t save face and give him up, and no doubt he was rankled by US hypocrisy, knowing that had Snowden been a Russian, the US would never have considered sending him back.

    But Snowden DID take action which is more than most of us do. I find your complete lack of empathy kind of weird, to be honest. Even if Assange is the more virtuous or if one disagrees with Snowden’s actions, he has paid a price for principle.

    What does his family background have to do with anything?

    I’m not inclined to sneer at him, and I don’t see how you get to “he deserves what he gets.”

    • Replies: @Mark Hunter
  39. @Brabantian

    Brabantian,

    So Pamela Anderson lied about visiting Assange in the embassy? If they’re faking it, wherever he is he isn’t in the public eye walking down the street or sitting in a Starbucks, so he’s leading a prison life anyway behind closed doors somewhere. I suppose a dedicated agent would do something like that for Queen and country or whatever, but I doubt he’s the type. I gather veterans today are trying to cast Assange as a Mossad agent but then they’re the Journal of the Clandestine Community, whatever that is.

    Snowden is not a classic defector so it makes sense for him to keep his distance from Russian society so as not to be inadvertently compromised or used by their intelligence services. He’s obviously under surveillance there, I know we all are but he’s much more aware of it, so that doesn’t make it easy for him but he’s definitely safer there than he’d be in France or Germany. I just don’t think he planned well ahead when he became a whistle-blower or was clear about what he was trying to achieve. He’s not the top level type of spy we’re accustomed to reading about who betray their country for money or to serve another they believe in more than their own. If he has been on active duty as a CIA asset all along I can’t see that he has achieved much of use to them other than in some inter-agency rivalry game. But it’s natural for Russians to be suspicious of him – they’re suspicious by nature – and rightly so, but it doesn’t make his life easy there.

  40. @der einzige

    Thanks for posting–Assange looked dazed and confused by the question itself.

    It could be “rogue agents”.

    A mind is a terrible thing to waste. 🙁

  41. anon[260] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous Snanonymous

    > Snowden, unlike Assange, largely suffered from pussy deprivation

    You’re projecting your own lack of success with females. Meanwhile, Snowden’s squeeze Lindsay Mills lives with him in Moscow.

    Snowden’s lawyer Anatoly Kucherena confirmed the lovebirds’ reunion and said they’ve been taking in Russian theaters and cultural sights together. “Love is love,” he told AFP. “She lives with him when she comes here. Moral support is very important for Edward.”
    https://nypost.com/2014/10/11/snowdens-girlfriend-lives-with-him-in-moscow-documentary-reveals/

    There’s no way an envious gamma like you could tap this:

    • Replies: @Anonymous Snanonymous
  42. Anonymous[893] • Disclaimer says:

    Good stuff. Snowden was outed by Gordon Duff years ago. Altho I’ll have to come back to finish this article, it generally appears to agree with Duff’s analysis that none of it adds up.

    If I may paraphrase Edward Bernays,

    To read the Washington Post and Guardian or watch TV news is to see America and Western Civilization through the eyes of its enemy.

    The owners of the media own the public forum in America and through it the formation of men’s attitudes and the outcome of elections. The left vs right, CNN vs Fox News, MAGA vs socialism and other contrived theater serves the interests of the media owners and no other.

  43. TheJester says:
    @Jonathan Revusky

    Try this:

    Assange tried to destroy the “system”, which would have furthered the conditions for completing the ongoing, global Cultural Marxist Revolution … Mao Zedong on steroids.

    Snowden, on the other hand, wanted something much less extreme. He wanted to fix and save the “system” by exposing its excesses in order to bring it back within a quasi-legal, democratic framework.

    In response, the “system” was satisfied to teach Snowden a lesson. They were willing to slap Snowden’s hand by exiling him to Western Russia, which is better than rotting in a Siberian labor camp or “max” prison in the United States.

    Assange, on the other hand, is a reincarnated, digital version of Che Guevara. They want his scalp, recognizing that Assange (like Che Guevara) will brook no compromise in his revolutionary agitation.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  44. @anon

    Thank you for the update… I remain celibate out of consideration for those who are truly hard up.

  45. Sparkon says:

    Good article. Snowden and Assange are agents of disinformation

    “I’m constantly annoyed that people are distracted by false conspiracies such as 9/11, when all around we provide evidence of real conspiracies, for war or mass financial fraud.”

    — Julian Assange

    http://911blogger.com/news/2010-07-22/wikileaks-founder-julian-assange-annoyed-911-truth

    Assange’s damming statement about 9/11 at the Belfast Telegraph is now behind a sign-up gatepost, which was not there in the fairly recent past.

    • Replies: @Fidelios Automata
  46. 9/11 is the “litmus test” and it appears that both Assange and Snowden have failed it.

    • Replies: @anon
  47. Saggy says: • Website

    YVONNE LORENZO

    Who is this idiot?

    • Replies: @anon
  48. anon[260] • Disclaimer says:
    @9/11 Inside job

    Well, the Real Litmus Test™ is eternal security vs. conditional salvation. Don’t fail, or everything else you’ve ever said must be summarily dismissed. Answer well, friendo.

    Splitting (also called black-and-white thinking or all-or-nothing thinking) is the failure in a person’s thinking to bring together the dichotomy of both positive and negative qualities of the self and others into a cohesive, realistic whole. It is a common defense mechanism.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splitting_(psychology)

  49. @Realist

    The problem is they don’t care, most Americans would rather watch America’s Got Talent or Dancing With The Stars than do something about our corrupt political system.

    Also very true.

  50. It appears the author of this piece has not read Snowden’s book, Permanent Record. If she had, she would not have asked questions which are answered, in detail, in Snowden’s book. Here are some of the most obvious points.

    1. “Why does Snowden never discuss dealing with such encryption: how would it be possible?”

    Answer: In his book, Snowden describes the layers of encryption that he used when copying the files from NSA. He also describes the extraordinary level of access he had as a systems engineer. Further, he mentions his surprise at finding that the NSA did not practice widespread encryption, in contrast to his experience at CIA, where the hard drives were not only encrypted, but removed from the computers and placed in a safe each night.

    2. “In the Oliver Stone movie Snowden, as well as in any of Snowden’s descriptions of how he accessed the NSA computers, did you note either the depiction or reference to this universal Smart ID? How could Snowden be exempt from its requirement?”

    Answer: Movies omit details. In his book, Snowden describes working in the one-person Information Sharing department. As part of that work, he brought an older, “obsolete” system to his office under the cover story of “compatibility testing” and used this older system to copy the data.

    3. “Did Edward Snowden, who has publicly criticized Google, mention Google is deployed as a search engine throughout the federal “intranet”?”

    Answer: Yes, as a matter of fact, in his book, Snowden does mention that Google provides a custom internal version of their search engine to the intelligence community.

    4. “Edward Snowden would have us believe that the Eye of Sauron didn’t notice he was looking at gigabytes of data unrelated to his job function and using his computer to copy the data to external devices over a lengthy period of time.”

    Answer: In his book, Snowden describes how he created a “readboard” that collected the documents as part of his work in the Information Sharing department. He also describes how another systems administrator did notice, and how he addressed this attention by providing access to his “readboard” to the other administrator, and explained its purpose and value to users. In other words, the “gigabytes of data” he was looking at were directly related to his job function.

    5. “On another issue, why did Snowden provide his files to known house organs of Intelligence Agencies, specifically the Washington Post and The Guardian, and not give them to Wikileaks to allow a publicly available searchable database?”

    Answer: Snowden also discusses this topic in his book. According to Snowden, he did not want to simply release the information, he wanted the media to remove anything that might cause harm.

    6. “And what about Snowden himself, the pontificator, the man who can speak on television or to the media with evidence of training? Practice yourself—see how well you can answer questions and speak publicly to a TV camera. How did he get his training? Who trained him? Why?”

    Answer: After 6 years of media attention, it seems reasonable he would gain some expertise in dealing with the media.

    My purpose in providing the answers above is not to defend or attack Snowden. Rather, these examples just show that the author of this piece is a sloppy amateur who did not do her homework. I suspect the author is also woefully ignorant of computer technology. Anyone curious about these topics should read Permanent Record and decide for themselves.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @Yvonne Lorenzo
  51. @sally

    My opinion. …

    Your opinion stands. Snowden has de facto been compromised. Being in Russia, and not in control of his environment. Whether he was from the start, could be. The Tor browser bull-***t speaks against him all the way. His conventional career start, and youth also. He is more Macron then a Galloway.

    Assange was in for the long term, had thorough knowledge of affairs digital, his youth, his physical courage(there must be a point where selling out was a possibility) were exemplary all along the (long) and still ongoing slug.

    Even his ego, fronting Wikileaks seems to be proportionate as compared to the conventional Jerks &, as Pompeo, Hillary, Trump, Obama. If one sees how many personnel is dedicated to steer elections and governance public opinion, he certainly looks like a lonely giant on the civil disobedience, organizational, knowledgeable, energy spent and resilience side. A true example of what White, and Western European descend stands for. Enlightenment, in system, style, and function. Relevancy, long term goals, dare, does not come better then that.

    • Replies: @anon
  52. @Justvisiting

    Very to the point. True over the whole stretch digital communication is in existence.

  53. Mark Hunter says: • Website
    @Oscar Peterson

    I don’t have  “Agree/Disagree/Etc”  privileges so I say here that I agree with you.

    Some of the pompous ingrates trashing Snowden for the flimsiest of reasons still seem to have a high opinion of Thomas Drake, William Binney, or Kirk Wiebe.  They might read this:
    Three NSA Veterans Speak Out on Whistleblower

  54. peterAUS says:
    @ikki

    Pretty much.

    The author, interestingly enough, isn’t I.T. professional, but, has very definite opinions about IT security. Dumb.

    Just email it to a private email.

    Well, firewall logs could reveal your connection to some email server outside…..

    Or store on something else and transport out.

    Yep. Hehe…the girl doesn’t actually get how that “encryption” thing works. OSI layers etc.

    And, what people really don’t get: all security is as good as an average person using it.
    As…hehe…you pointed out:

    Hillary was doing the same thing for ages.

    Insider doesn’t need to tackle technology. All he/she needs is to tackle is a dumb employee.
    Anyway….

    I could make my home systems quite secure, even against Five Eyes. That would create another set of even worse problems, but let’s leave it out for now.
    The problem is my wife and her browsing/computer use habits. Hehe…makes sense?

  55. peterAUS says:
    @Outrage Beyond

    A very good comment.

    Especially

    ….a systems engineer…..
    …the one-person Information Sharing department….
    ….providing access to his “readboard” to the other administrator….

  56. anon[260] • Disclaimer says:
    @Realist

    Snowden did “do something about our corrupt political system,” not that anybody here cares.

    And God Bless America.

  57. niceland says:

    Snowden keeping “distance” to Russia, and not openly defending them seems reasonable to me. You can imagine the smear campaign back home if he would side with Russia against the U.S. on almost anything. “The Russians got to him” or “He was always their man”.

    He is trying to keep his neutrality and credibility and his target audience isn’t the average Unz reader, but rather some mainstream educated middle/upper class blokes. Easily scared away from his views if they become too controversial and too far from the established narrative.

    Last but not least, he is playing very dangerous game, probably without much security from his host country. This probably imits what he can do, TPTB could probably get to him if they wanted it badly enough.

    • Agree: Ron Unz
  58. anon[260] • Disclaimer says:
    @Horst G

    Everybody with the slight familiarity about the story knows of Snowden’s use of the Ernő Rubik’s Cube to hide the SD card.

    > In real life, copying material on devices will be followed by arrest, no interview, no journey to some exile.

    Snowden proved you wrong, by the skin of his teeth.

    > Your sarcasm is disturbing.

    Yeah? How do you think folks feel about your black cape and a fiberglass helmet?

  59. Republic says:
    @anon

    Wasn’t Ross William Ulbricht compromised by using Tor ?

    • Replies: @anon
  60. Republic says:
    @Rabbitnexus

    Snowden’s wife is a member of a certain ethnic group. Same as with Alex Jones, both are limited hangouts

    • Replies: @anon
  61. anon[260] • Disclaimer says:
    @PetrOldSack

    > The Tor browser bull-***t speaks against him all the way

    No, your stupid bull-***t lack of understanding about Tor speaks against you all the way. It’s not encryption, like you probably think it is. It’s simply a way to use another IP address without having to drive to the nearest Starbucks to use their wifi. You treat Tor just like any “free” wifi, assuming that your data is being sniffed and collected. If you’re going to message, use Signal (or Telegram.) Always force HTTPS. Use encryption. All Tor does is obfuscate your IP location, which is exactly what Snowden states, “All Tor does is obfuscate your IP location.

    “[Tor] allows you to disassociate your physical location.”

    EDWARD SNOWDEN EXPLAINS HOW TO RECLAIM YOUR PRIVACY
    https://theintercept.com/2015/11/12/edward-snowden-explains-how-to-reclaim-your-privacy/

    And now Brave Browser has it built in! So easy. Try it. Just don’t do anything on Tor that you wouldn’t do with a Starbuck’s free wifi in Foggy Bottom.

  62. anon[260] • Disclaimer says:
    @Republic

    How he got taken down is here, and it started with the name-fag using his Real Name while e-begging for help to run illegal websites, and ended up with a half-dozen FBI agents tailing him at his arrest. Even then, Tor made it harder for the FBI to track him, just not impossible.

    Tor only does one thing, obfuscate your physical location. That’s it. It’s not magic. It’s a virtual way to sit at the Starbucks cafe and use their free wifi. Just assume the exit node is owned by the Feds, looking for criminal morons who don’t understand it and think it’s “secure” or “encrypted.” It’s not. Use encryption too.

  63. anon[260] • Disclaimer says:
    @Republic

    And you’re a flaming faggot.

    Snowden’s wife is Lindsay Mills, daughter of Jonathan Lynn Mills and Marta H. Mills Williams. None jewish.

    • Replies: @Republic
    , @Republic
  64. Republic says:
    @anon

    Alex Jones married two Jewish women, no dispute there.

  65. Gg says:

    Stuff like this just confirms Qanon. He said years ago Snowden was a CIA plant in the NSA to reveal this information about their mass surveillance on purpose. Why ? Maybe it relates to what Michael Hoffman describes as revelation of the method – a process of revealing the crimes being committed against us by “they” so it breeds apathy and despair in the population when nothing comes from
    The revelation of the crimes

  66. Republic says:
    @anon

    see this list of Jewish names, Mills is listed

    http://www.avotaynu.com/csi/csi-result.html?page=next

    AVOTAYNU: Consolidated Jewish Surname Index

    probably Sephardic

    • Replies: @Alden
  67. anon[260] • Disclaimer says:
    @Republic

    So you think you can (1) smear Snowden’s wife with your preposterous lie, (2) not apologize when you’re proven wrong, then (3) absolve yourself of lying with a smokescreen of off-topic banality about Alex Jones? Thanks for letting us know your character is lower than whale shit in the Mariana Trench. I’ll be watching you, faggot.

    • Replies: @Republic
  68. The Russian authorities are capable of asking the same perceptive questions – – and yet they continue to be gracious hosts.

  69. Sean says:

    An allegedly very high iq high school from a family with drop out Snowden’s tried to join special forces and failed jump school, he failed a polygraph, got accepted to the CIA though not as a field agent despite his lack of a degree, and was bounced from the CIA and then got a job with Dell as an outside contractor on the basis of his still intact security clearance, the contractors were not compartmentalised in the way government employees were. Then he went to work for defense contractor Booz Allen Hamilton, at an NSA facility in Hawaii. In subsequent interview with journalists, Snowden lied about his doing undercover work for the CIA, salary and seniority at Booz Allen,being able to spy on the the emails and phone calls of President Obama. Oh, abd suffering broken bones in special forces jump school, he just had shin splints It is very clear how he got access, and why most of the people who gave him it did not own up.

    https://nypost.com/2013/11/08/snowden-duped-coworkers-to-get-passwords/ Snowden duped co-workers to get passwords A handful of agency employees who gave their login details to Snowden were identified, questioned and removed from their assignments, said a source close to several U.S. government investigations into the damage caused by the leaks. Snowden may have persuaded between 20 and 25 fellow workers at the NSA regional operations center in Hawaii to give him their logins and passwords by telling them they were needed for him to do his job as a computer systems administrator, a second source said.

    Are we to believe the NSA lacks a “digital trail” when it comes to classified documents?

    It’s only difficult to believe if you think NASA (like the CIA and FBI once were) are only guarded in relation to external rather than internal security breaches

    [A] frightening history of plans to crush internal dissent and would-be dissenters in the United States.

    Why would they bother? Those dissenters cannot change anything, while they are whiling away their free time on the internet. Such activity cannot change anything at all, and so it is to be encouraged from the point of view of any establishment as open dissent on the net wards off the allegation of totalitarian state. Talk is cheap.

  70. Republic says:
    @anon

    Thanks for letting us know your character is lower than whale shit in the Mariana Trench.

    very funny, you have a real talent for insults

  71. jsigur says:

    Snowden is an obvious op as is Asange. Call it 3rd tier op if you like (pretends to be hostile) there for the purpose of herding real dissent into unproblematic areas

  72. I’m not going to comment on the person or their agenda, rather the process-broadly.

    Can you copy encrypted files without knowledge and smuggle them out?
    Short answer:
    Yes, with a second device and some standard hardware stuff.
    They can see the second device if it is plugged in, but they have to look for it.
    There is no need to try and copy from the source, copy the output to a second machine that can interpret.

  73. Alden says:
    @Republic

    Mills is a very common English name as well as Jewish. Variations of Mills and Miller are among the most common European names in all European languages.

  74. @Republic

    Alex Jones—I forgot about that nerd. But is he not with Lee Ann McAdoo? Or is she Jewish, too? Knew about the first wife, but was not aware that he had remarried.

    • Replies: @Republic
  75. @Sparkon

    I’m conflicted about this 9/11 stuff. The “controlled demolition” theories are obvious BS. It’s a distraction from the most likely culprit, the Mossad. If Griffin said that he’d be deplatformed as an anti-semite and a white supremacist. Perhaps they’d plant child porn on his computer for good measure.

  76. Franz says:
    @anon

    ought to give Snowden some credit for his military service too.

    Hell, I’d give the guy credit for his quick sprinting at the NSA. But we haven’t established if he was a wiz kid or a plant.

    Vidal went into the US Army after Pearl Harbor, at age 17. Even though he’d been his high school representative for the America First Committee, trying to keep the US out of the war. Due to hypothermia working on army transport ships in the Aleutians, he was initially misdiagnosed as arthritic and, not being caught in time, ended up first with a titanium leg replacement years later, then in a wheelchair.

    I remain sort of impressed when a young man opposes a fight, then for patriotic reasons, serves anyway (and pays a steep price).

    I’m sure we’ll get the full story on Snowden sooner or later.

  77. anon[260] • Disclaimer says:
    @Saggy

    A stupid girl who is completely unfamiliar with the Snowden history. For example, she asks this, “why did Snowden provide his files to…The Guardian?”

    Because he needed immediate press coverage. He didn’t have weeks or even days, he had at most a few hours. His story had to be in the press the next morning. Both Greenwald and the Guardian reporter were with him at the hotel, worried that Snowden might even be assassinated if caught by US forces, and worked to get immediate press coverage of his plight to save his life. Plus, he was in constant contact with Wikileaks’Julian Assange, which she conveniently ignores to promote her lie-based conspiritard theory.

    Without his story getting into the press within a few hours, and without Wikileaks’ Julian Assange helping Snowden, he’d be in prison now, at best, possibly dead.

    I say, give the guy a fair trial. He has asked for a fair trial. But the US Gov’t has refused to allow his motive to be considered in the trial. Amazing, isn’t it? Since when is motive to not be considered in a criminal trial?

    For Snowden, a fair trial means allowing the jury to consider his motivations rather than simply deciding the case on whether a law was broken.

    “They want the jury strictly to consider whether these actions were lawful or unlawful, not whether they were right or wrong,” Snowden said. “And I’m sorry, but that defeats the purpose of a jury trial.”

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2019/09/17/edward-snowden-releases-book-russia-wants-fair-trial-us/2349586001/

  78. Agent76 says:
    @wayfarer

    Thanks for the share wayfarer!

    • Replies: @wayfarer
  79. Republic says:
    @Nicolás Palacios Navarro

    Yes his first Jewish wife divorced him, there was a big court case, much interesting information came out in that case, such as his income, and he admitted to be a performance artist, he married a second Jewish woman who was a former massage therapist

    • Replies: @Sean
  80. Che Guava says:

    Tor may still be a good tool, it certainly was, I had great fun using it to troll and set off edit wars on English Wikipedia for a year or two mid-last decade. One of those edit wars lasted for about three days. I just watched after starting it (but I meant what I said in the comment that set it off, but not always in the trolling(^-^)v).

    In any case, the English-language WP has been madly tracking Tor exit nodes and banning them since about early ’07.

    Fun while it lasted.

    As for the wrong way to use it, that basically means making a connection to any other site, without Tor, while using Tor. I slipped up on that once or twice when slightly drunk.

    I don’t even know if using Tor is even legal in Japan now. I do love, however, how Wikipedia is aggressively supressing it.

    Some politicians in ruling party were moving to make it illegal a couple of years ago, our polity is so nonsensical that I have to checck Japanese wiki to see the result.

    Any fule knows that Tor original is a U.S.N. programme,

  81. wayfarer says:
    @Agent76

    Thank you as well Agent76, for helping fight the good fight!

  82. @der einzige

    I recommend these articles from Jon Rappaport, unfortunately, wordpress deleted his blog.

    Matrix: Who is Edward Snowden?

    https://www.radios.cz/en/articles/matrix-who-is-edward-snowden/

    Snowden and the final purpose of the Surveillance State

    https://www.radios.cz/en/articles/snowden-and-the-final-purpose-of-the-surveillance-state/

    Rappaport started my thinking and I bookmarked his pages long ago and to my horror found the site was taken down. I wonder why? Glad for this archive. Thank you.

  83. @Outrage Beyond

    It appears the author of this piece has not read Snowden’s book, Permanent Record. If she had, she would not have asked questions which are answered, in detail, in Snowden’s book. Here are some of the most obvious points.

    1. “Why does Snowden never discuss dealing with such encryption: how would it be possible?”

    Answer: In his book, Snowden describes the layers of encryption that he used when copying the files from NSA. He also describes the extraordinary level of access he had as a systems engineer. Further, he mentions his surprise at finding that the NSA did not practice widespread encryption, in contrast to his experience at CIA, where the hard drives were not only encrypted, but removed from the computers and placed in a safe each night.

    2. “In the Oliver Stone movie Snowden, as well as in any of Snowden’s descriptions of how he accessed the NSA computers, did you note either the depiction or reference to this universal Smart ID? How could Snowden be exempt from its requirement?”

    Answer: Movies omit details. In his book, Snowden describes working in the one-person Information Sharing department. As part of that work, he brought an older, “obsolete” system to his office under the cover story of “compatibility testing” and used this older system to copy the data.

    No, I haven’t read the book–yet.

    As part of a forensic analysis, which none of you were observant enough to understand, the subject is interviewed without knowledge of the questions in advance. His answers would be evaluated based on facts, for which a forensic IT team with no connections to government contractors would be part of and gain access to NSA systems. Thus, testimony is considered but it must be verified. Rand Paul might be one to open an investigation into the inadequacy of NSA security but government investigating itself is suspect. No such investigation will ever take place.

    Note there has been no calls, that I am aware of, for any GAO study of NSA vulnerabilities.

    Second, the critics miss the point: providing files to CIA-Five Eye fronts like Guardian and CIA Washington Post is suspect. As per what I wrote, no one now has access to this data.

    I suspect Snowden leaked legitimate information to con the Russians to be on their soil and conduct malfeasance. Prior to Putin providing S-300s to Syria, Israel had better relations with Russia. I suspect Q is also coordinated by Intel agency friendly to Likud. Note his mention of John Perry Barlow before his death. He warned of Snowden being sent deliberately to Russia and hence my concern for CIA doing something stupid.

    As to his comments on not supporting Russia, no support is necessary. If he were a decent human being he could simply have stated, “Election interference notwithstanding the U.S. should pursue non-aggressive posture against Russia. There was no ‘Second Pearl Harbor.’ The risk of nuclear war is great and I agree with President Trump to reduce tensions, although I disagree with his politics.”

    Instead, see his Tweets supporting the Pussy Hats and “We came, we saw, he died” Hillary Clinton.

    In the event, Snowden is irrelevant. The end of Empire is imminent.

    Read Martyanov’s post on the recent threats America made to Russia here.

    https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2019/09/why-would-you-ask.html

    I have compassion for Snowden. His end will likely be as Skripals was: disappearance by Western IC which he supports and blame placed on Russia.

    We are free to disagree with one another. I trust nothing a supporter of Empire says.

    As to September 11 I wasn’t aware of Assange’s remarks. This is the touchstone as others have said. Snowden enlisted because of September 11 false flag. Yeah, right, he is an idiot savant.

    Even Ed Asner who no longer wins Emmy awards and is blackballed had the courage to do this video. Trust Snowden? I think not.

    Y. Lorenzo (this site will not allow me to post under my name)

    p.s. Ron uses Gmail. The nearest military base is a long, long way from my location. A helicopter outfitted with surveillance bubbles overflew after I submitted this piece.. Coincidence, right?

    I will fight for the truth. I receive no compensation for my work and expect none. I support the cause of peace and not Empire. Thanks for the intelligent supportive comments. Ad hominem attacks mean nothing. Thanks to Ron for posting though he disagrees.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @Sean
    , @anon
  84. Che Guava says:

    I wrote a better reply last night (which I srcewed up).
    … but reiterate the main points now.
    Am tn doubt re. ‘Smowden”when he was constantly whining about Russia, getting hhs pole-dancing gf to join him there must have been a major effort, but he has no gratitude for it.

    Really strange.

    At the time, I thought that Putin’s comment ‘he is a strsange young man’ had to do only with questions of loyalty and betrayal, of course, it was lilekely deeper and more suspicious than that.

    If I had been in the position like ‘Snowden’, after first having been granted asylum, my priority would have been to study the language.

    I would gtuess that he can order food or drink, do basic greetings, and not much else.

  85. Sean says:
    @Republic

    Snowden’s wife is a former pole dancer, those are for good for something, but its not marrying. Everything about him suggests immaturity, from his toying with the idea of being a model to his trying to go from frail civilian with a youth spent 24/7 gaming to passing jumps school. He stole vstly more than he could ever have read, much of it having no bearing on privacy so he has no idea what he might have comprised. Quoth he:

    There is a secrecy agreement, but there is also an oath of service. An oath of service is to support and defend, not an agency, not even the president, it is to support and defend the Constitution of the United States of America against all enemies – direct quote – foreign and domestic. And this begs the question, what happens when our obligations come into conflict.

    If you have meaningful values (ie those that do not charge to suit your personal aggrandisement) you resign, I but instead of doing that he deliberately got another job contracting with the NSA all the better to steal data.

  86. peterAUS says:
    @Yvonne Lorenzo

    ….In the event, Snowden is irrelevant. The end of Empire is imminent.

    Read Martyanov’s post on the recent threats America made to Russia here….

    That was fast, even for this pub.

    Ad hominem attacks mean nothing.

    You mean being positive about you UNABLE to visualize a byte from a “keypress” moving all the way to the LAN cable with each timer “click”? You know, buffers, busses, microcode/firmware, interrupts, stack/heap, closed source, encryption/decryption layer of the OSI stack etc. That’s for technology.
    As for people, unaware of an average idiot user in any environment using IT, Governments in particular, and the role and power of sysadmins in such environments?
    But confident to write articles what can and can not be done re IT security?
    Yeah…….

    • Replies: @Yvonne Lorenzo
  87. @anon

    Not sure about Pythagoras, but there are (very unfortunately) people who might have
    fun from combining “Rubik’s Cube and highly classified information”.
    And not necessarily in reality.

  88. @peterAUS

    You mean being positive about you UNABLE to visualize a byte from a “keypress” moving all the way to the LAN cable with each timer “click”? You know, buffers, busses, microcode/firmware, interrupts, stack/heap, closed source, encryption/decryption layer of the OSI stack etc. That’s for technology.

    Butthurt you are, yes?

    Tell me how he defeats this, be specific.

    https://www.symantec.com/products/endpoint-encryption

    White paper here.

    https://www.symantec.com/content/dam/symantec/docs/white-papers/keeping-your-private-data-secure-en.pdf

    Y. Lorenzo

    And I don’t care; fine, he was a clever op, he hacked the NSA, whoo-hoo. My other comments still stand.

    Go wave your flag, you’re done.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  89. Sean says:
    @Yvonne Lorenzo

    Rand Paul might be one to open an investigation into the inadequacy of NSA security but government investigating itself is suspect. No such investigation will ever take place.

    Yes, Rand Paul who while cutting his lawn provoked his own retired doctor neighbour in a gated community into a maddened vicious rib dislocating attack that cost Paul part of his lung What a brilliant choice to annoy the government.

    His end will likely be as Skripals was: disappearance by Western IC which he supports and blame placed on Russia

    Skirpal is in America. The British got Skirpal out of Russia, but Russia could have killed him any time because he was homesick and meeting people from the Russian Embassy. In my opinion the Russians were trying to kill Skirpal’s daughter along with him. They knew she was coming and timed the nerve agent attack so as to ‘accidentally’ kill her along with the traitor. The knowledge that you will go after their families is the ultimate deterrent. Unless you are a narcissistic dick like Snowden, who hardly mentions anything his family did for him except getting a second phone line so he could play some stupid internet game. Snowden actually says in his book that the internet raised him. It did not get him a job in the CIA despite him having no degree, that was his mom’s NSA and her father’s Pentagon connections. Aldrich Ames’s father worked for the CIA.

  90. Art says:

    Edward Snowden is a great man – a great American. (Will a Dem president pardon him?)

    I recently viewed a video on how a poor immigrant family hid Snowden before he secured a flight out of Hong Kong. (He is working to get them out of Hong Kong, to Canada.)

    I am curious as to how he got the flight out to Russia?????

  91. This will be my final comment.

    My issue is one regarding Snowden’s character and integrity, especially as the collapsing Empire under FUBAR Trump is waging war on the world.

    Come on, none of the CIA trolls here have read The Saker with Orlov on the fate of the mass murdering Empire?

    http://www.unz.com/tsaker/placing-the-usa-on-a-collapse-continuum-with-dmitry-orlov/

    At this point it is important to explain what exactly a “final collapse” looks like. Some people are under the very mistaken assumption that a collapsed society or country looks like a Mad Max world. This is not so. The Ukraine has been a failed state for several years already, but it still exists on the map. People live there, work, most people still have electricity (albeit not 24/7), a government exists, and, at least officially, law and order is maintained. This kind of collapsed society can go on for years, maybe decades, but it is in a state of collapse nonetheless, as it has reached all the 5 Stages of Collapse as defined by Dmitry Orlov in his seminal book “The Five Stages of Collapse: Survivors’ Toolkit” where he mentions the following 5 stages of collapse:

    Stage 1: Financial collapse. Faith in “business as usual” is lost.
    Stage 2: Commercial collapse. Faith that “the market shall provide” is lost.
    Stage 3: Political collapse. Faith that “the government will take care of you” is lost.
    Stage 4: Social collapse. Faith that “your people will take care of you” is lost.
    Stage 5: Cultural collapse. Faith in “the goodness of humanity” is lost.

    Sound familiar? Read it and weep. Your pensions are toast.

    Or read Chris Hedges America The Farewell Tour.

    Snowden’s character is proven by his interview with Brian Roberts.

    Now, although only 14% of U.S. TLAMs got past Syrian air defenses, hear him was rhapsodic on the “beautiful missiles.”

    And Snowden is happy to talk to this creep? And asks Rothschild-Kravis puppet Macron to ex-filtrate him to France?

    https://www.voltairenet.org/article204303.html

    It was in this milieu that he met Henry and Marie-Josée Kravis, in their residence on Park Avenue in New York [1]. The Kravis couple, unfailing supporters of the US Republican Party, are among the great world fortunes who play politics out of sight of the Press. Their company, KKR, like Blackstone and the Carlyle Group, is one of the world’s major investment funds.

    « Emmanuel’s curiosity for the ’can-do attitude’ was fascinating – the capacity to tell yourself that you can do anything you set your mind to. He had a thirst for knowledge and a desire to understand how things work, but without imitating or copying anyone. In this, he remained entirely French », declares Marie-Josée Drouin (Mrs. Kravis) today [2].

    https://sputniknews.com/europe/201909141076804460-go-west-edward-snowden-hopes-frances-emmanuel-macron-will-approve-his-asylum-application/

    Snowden’s revelations about his aspirations for asylum outside of Russia come just days ahead of the upcoming release of his new memoir which is expected to hit the shelves on US Constitution Day.

    Famous American whistleblower and former NSA contractor Edward Snowden, the man responsible for exposing a number of global surveillance programs run by the US agency, has recently revealed that he would like to obtain asylum in France.

    Call it female intuition, Snowden creeps me out.

    Those who want to bow before his altar, be my guest. You have free will.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @bjondo
  92. peterAUS says:
    @Yvonne Lorenzo

    …Butthurt …

    …whoo-hoo..

    …Go wave your flag…

    ….CIA trolls here…

    Read it and weep. Your pensions are toast.

    From an author here?!

    Whoah……..

    My God, Unz…..really? Coming to this?

    Hahaha……oh man.

  93. peterAUS says:

    Just realized, isn’t this creature the only female author here?

    A female creature is writing, as an author, on alt-whatever site, about things she has never been professionally involved in. With certain…hahaha…style.

    Hahaha……..oh my.

    So, what have we got:
    1. Unz finally collapsed under “diversity” pressure?
    2. There is, sort of a hidden, message here.

    I really hope it’s the second.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  94. peterAUS says:
    @Sean

    True…true….mea culpa. Female stuff, that is, in general.

    Style, though, is unique for the creature here.

    …Butthurt …

    …whoo-hoo..

    …Go wave your flag…

    ….CIA trolls here…

    …Read it and weep. Your pensions are toast….

    ….creep….creeps me out…

    I mean…hahaha….when reading those things it’s, almost, as written by a certain type of commentators here. Almost as one of them, actually. Same “footprint”. Especially the first two.

    I mean, having that from an author here is, really, a new low for sure.

    This is the first time I’ve seen something like that, and my attitude was mild in this thread compared to some in other threads. I mean, I was quite hard on some authors here, and never, so far that. “Butthurt”……….”whoo-hoo”………

    I’ve quite offended a couple of authors here and they never replied with any rude word. And ..my God…”whoo-hoo”. Haha…crazy.

    New “quality” seeping here, apparently. Hehe…getting with times, I guess. And program.
    Understandable.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  95. peterAUS says:
    @peterAUS

    O.K. I could be wrong.

    I’ve been on this site for quite some time. Read, on average, 20 % of articles and similar number of comments in those articles.

    I can’t, really, recollect ONE case when an AUTHOR, here, in a comments exchange with a commentator, used the words “butthurt” and “whoo-hoo”. Not once from the, say, authors from the West. Born and raised there, that is. Cultural thing, I guess.

    Anyone could prove me senile/wrong? Please.

    • Replies: @Sean
  96. @foolisholdman

    I agree. Shilling for the Israelis regarding 911 is a deal breaker for me. They had me going about these 2 guys for a while, but when I heard that they had ridiculed 911 truthers I smelled a rat. And after this article I agree they are shills for the status quo. Reasonable people can not doubt that 911 was a false flag operation. There’s just too much bullshit there.

    • Replies: @9/11 Inside job
  97. @peterAUS

    isn’t this creature the only female author here?

    Ilana Mercer is a woman who writes on UR.

  98. niceland says:

    I think the idea Snowden is a “plant” is a bit far out there. If he is; the real purpose of the exercise is what exactly?

    I also don’t get why some commenters think Julian Assange isn’t who he claims to be. His Wikileaks has published great volume of highly embarrassing material for the U.S. The embassy cables come to mind – bringing to light evidence contrary to Washington narrative on many events.

    There is another thing; Just after he established Wikileaks he came to Iceland and met with journalists and few politicians. The result from that visit was he met one Kristinn Hrafnsson, long time journalist in Iceland with excellent track record and credibility. Since Assange got in trouble, accused of sexual harassment from Swedish woman and finally escaped into the Ecuador embassy in London, Hrafnsson has been spokesman for Wikileaks.

    Since I am familiar with Hrafnsson work for decades, I would be very surprised if he worked with Assagne all this time, and even took over his job, so to speak, as head of Wikileaks if Assagne wasn’t genuine. Hrafnsson has struck me as smart guy and honest and it’s extremely unlikely he would continue if something didn’t smell right at Wikileaks. I also want to point out Wikileaks has been working with, what I consider the few remaining NEWS outlets in Europe. (Including The Guardian before it was bought few years ago and became worthless).

    To Assagne credit he booted Icelandic polititian, one Birgitta Jónsdóttir; who tried to visit him in U.K. prison – and wanted nothing to do with her. She has been trying to make international name for herself as fighter for human rights and peacemaker and against corruption and so forth. Unfortunately she is a bag full of hot air and thinks SHE is the center of the universe. It’s all about her and therefore she is of no use for any cause. Julian was right to send her packing.

    I can’t imagine what the CIA or NSA or other tentacles of the Empire would gain by running Wikileaks. It makes absolutely no sense to me.

    • Replies: @niceland
    , @Sean
  99. niceland says:
    @niceland

    Here you can view interview by Chris Hedges with Hrafnsson on RT. You decide if this guy is genuine or not. It seems he has basically been running Wikileaks for past several years.

    https://www.rt.com/shows/on-contact/461987-kristinn-hrafnsson-extradition-wikileaks/

  100. @der einzige

    Wow. Thank you for posting that. Doesn’t look too good for Assange.

  101. anon[310] • Disclaimer says:
    @Yvonne Lorenzo

    > Call it female intuition, Snowden creeps me out.

    Can’t refute that! #BelieveWomen

  102. anon[310] • Disclaimer says:
    @Yvonne Lorenzo

    > A helicopter outfitted with surveillance bubbles overflew after I submitted this piece.. Coincidence, right?

    No coincidence, they’re distributing corn sharks in a contract with ADM. Stay indoors and cover your head with tin foil.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  103. @2stateshmustate

    “9/11 is the Litmus Test ” By Smoking – Mirrors.Com :

    “It all comes down to 9/11.Everything that has happened has happened based on a lie . Everyone in Government ; everyone in the media , in entertainment , in organized religion , in the public ,in the public eye who accepts and promotes the official story is either a traitor or a tool . Everyone who does not stand forth and speak truth to power is a coward , a liar and complicit in mass-murder . Everyone
    everywhere can be measured by this Litmus Test .”

  104. Sean says:
    @peterAUS

    No one can prove you anything but pathologically ambivalent.

  105. Sean says:
    @niceland

    To Assagne credit he booted Icelandic politician, one Birgitta Jónsdóttir; who tried to visit him in U.K. prison – and wanted nothing to do with her. She has been trying to make international name for herself as fighter for human rights and peacemaker and against corruption and so forth. Unfortunately she is a bag full of hot air and thinks SHE is the center of the universe. It’s all about her and therefore she is of no use for any cause.

    Yes, it is opposites that attract.

    Julian is his own worst enemy. In a recent documentary about Assange he cooperated on, Helena Kennedy top leftie lawyer in Britain was talking to him about how to present his case against the sexual assault charges old Julian was facing. He kept interrupting her saying the accusers were lesbians. Kennedy tried to explain that was not a defence, him saying it made him look bad, and the image he created by what he said about the accusers was important. He kept interrupting her with the same stuff until finally she gave up. You could see the wheels working in her head about where he was going to land himself.

  106. bjondo says:
    @Yvonne Lorenzo

    You have many important, thought-worthy points.

    Ignore the trolls/orcs.

    • Replies: @Yvonne Lorenzo
  107. @bjondo

    @Yvonne Lorenzo

    You have many important, thought-worthy points.

    Ignore the trolls/orcs.

    Thank you.

    I just watched part of Snowden’s interview with Brian Ross. Yes, the Patriot Act is now over and done and he’s really made changes to the NSA. He’s a reformer, don’t you know?

    Here’s the link to his interview with that “great” American, Brian Williams, thanks to those who posted here:

    And from The Saker’s site on 11 September; Snowden, even for those who supported him, has done nothing to change this and admits to implementing the most grotesque tools of the Patriot Act. Where was his “conscience” then? Again, he is unrepentant. He has no remorse for the millions of innocents slain by the National Security State. He volunteered for the CIA and has no issue with all its crimes, from drug running to worse. See the book CIA As Organized Crime.

    https://thesaker.is/9-11-the-deep-state-false-flag-that-keeps-on-condoning-western-terrorism-at-home-and-around-the-world/

    The West’s neocons had been howling for years for a new Pearl Harbor (Project for the New American Century – PNAC) to shock the people into accepting global warfare on resource rich countries across Asia, from North Korea in the East to Libya in the West. Remember full spectrum dominance and George W. Bush’s grotesque “Axis of Evil”? With 9/11, these elite perps got the cowed public’s carte blanche to massacre, starve and sanction countless millions, destroy and occupy countries of their choosing, in order to steal the locals’ resources, plunder public treasuries for trillions of dollars and euros, via inflated “security” and corrupt arms contracts. A quick look at today’s headlines and world map shows just how lethal 9/11 was and is for millions of dark-skinned, mostly Muslim innocents around the world.

    George Orwell wrote that the fascism of empire overseas always comes back to the home countries, to keep the natives just as oppressed as the colonies. It’s the only way the capitalist class can keep on robbing the citizens blind, as they are slowly driven into poverty and despair. Thus, 9/11 gave the elites the perceived mandate to shred civil and legal rights across Eurangloland. Using 9/11 as a wrecking ball, the Patriot Act and successive National Defense Authorization Acts (NDAA) have suborned Western constitutions into hollow charades. Your governments can detain you, search you and your property, seize your property, torture, disappear and kill you, with the stroke of a pen and without a shred of evidence. You are just getting a taste of Western, dystopian, police state destitution and government orchestrated propaganda, fear and loathing. It is going to get much, much worse. Hats off to author Suzanne Collins for her Hunger Games books. Art imitating life. That’s exactly where Euranglolanders are heading. Welcome to Panem, bay-bee.

    Cui bono 9/11? Not you, that’s for sure. If you still cling to the absurd conspiracy theory that a gaggle of amateur Arabs with box cutters shut down the U.S.’s entire North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD), you are in the dwindling minority. Latest polls show that a majority of Americans think their government is hiding the truth about 9/11. Well, DUH!

    Alea iacta est. The die is cast and unfortunately, much damage has already been done, both at home and abroad. But with eyes wide open, we can all hope for an eventual Nuremburg-style crimes-against-humanity court to seek necessary justice and cloture, then we can work towards a more noble future for all of humankind.

    Quit being a dupe and a patsy. The truth shall set you free. With dignity and awareness, you can hold your head high.

  108. peterAUS says:
    @anon

    …A helicopter outfitted with surveillance bubbles overflew after I submitted this piece.. Coincidence, right?…

    Oh my. Missed that.

    C…r…a…z..y….

    O.K.
    Let’s wait for the second….ahm…author…of this type to see is this simply an oversight by some people, or…. there is some intention behind it.

  109. @peterAUS

    Oh my. Missed that.

    C…r…a…z..y….

    O.K.

    Let’s wait for the second….ahm…author…of this type to see is this simply an oversight by some people, or…. there is some intention behind it.

    I’m not a liar. The fact is that there was a military helicopter with clear markings and surveillance equipment doing a low overflight. It might be a coincidence but there is no target of value over a residential neighborhood. Don’t call me a liar. Or smile when you say that.

    Secondly, none you Snowden apologists can challenge the questions and facts I raised that he is suspect. You just engage in personal attacks.

    At least Ron Unz offered an intelligent hypothesis as to Snowden’s actions and none of you here have.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  110. @peterAUS

    peterAUS,

    A helicopter outfitted with surveillance bubbles overflew after I submitted this piece.

    Oh, but they do, and not just for surveillance purposes but to mess with your mind too. I wouldn’t dismiss her claims out of hand – happens to people.

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1172387.Psychic_Dictatorship_in_the_U_S_A_

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @anon
  111. peterAUS says:
    @Yvonne Lorenzo

    What happened to, as in .95

    …This will be my final comment….

    ?! Never mind.

    I’m not a liar.

    Probably. That you have no idea about the techology you try to write articles about is another matter. Even that is O.K. even for an author here. Learning.
    But you have no manners. You have no class and that’s inexcusable for an author here, a woman in particular. Language.

    You could also be simply dumb, as:

    The fact is that there was a military helicopter with clear markings and surveillance equipment doing a low overflight. It might be a coincidence but there is no target of value over a residential neighborhood. Don’t call me a liar. Or smile when you say that.

    …none you Snowden apologists can challenge the questions and facts I raised that he is suspect.

    “We” aren’t anyone’s apologists, creature; some of us have certain professional expertise in related matters. We just know how all that works, both on tech and human level.
    An intelligent and dedicated sysadmin can do, anywhere, what Snowden did.
    I don’t expect an average commnetator here to be able to “listen”, even less to “talk”. Most of them are idiots.
    But…I do have much higher standards for authors. I expect them to be “ladies and gentlemen”.

    As for

    You just engage in personal attacks.

    You mean using “butthurt”…?!

    At least Ron Unz offered an intelligent hypothesis as to Snowden’s actions and none of you here have.

    Wouldn’t know abut that “an intelligent hypothesis “.
    I do know that Outrage Beyond , in the comment .52 explained most of it. I’d just keep it, again, simple:
    An intelligent and dedicated sysadmin can do, anywhere, what Snowden did.
    That’s all.

    And, BTW, as for that “helicopter” and real-world surveillance, doesn’t work that way either.
    You could research that topic too. If “they”are really onto you, you won’t see any helicopters anywhere. Just no need.

  112. peterAUS says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Every day, Monday to Friday, both on morning and evening rush hour, I have “helicopters with surveillance bubbles” flying over my house.

    A lot of times during the night I have the same.

    Not once I assumed they were onto me and doing anything else but traffic control and/or chasing some criminal around.

    Listen….of all people you, as a Brit, should know how the real world surveillance really works.
    ‘Your” guys mastered it in the Troubles.

    If you really think “they’ need surveillance helicopters to watch us posting here…I mean…just don’t do that.

    As for “mind control” they don’t need anything high tech too. Beer and TV have been doing nicely there, thank you. And shopping. And social media. And….simply the mind of an average consumer drone in the West.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  113. This was retweeted by Whitney Webb

  114. @peterAUS

    I guess I was trying to inject some humour there. But then there’s that saying about being paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not out to get you. That crazy, or maybe not so, author Alex Constantine claimed the CIA were projecting beams on him that had him writhing on the floor of his house in agony. Maybe they already manipulated this Yvonne’s mind by remote so that she writes disinfo like this. Well, just a very remote possibility. My main question is why is she trying to discredit Snowden? If he really is some CIA plant, the last people he’d be able to fool are Russian intelligence officers under whose observation he has been for so long. I think he’s a genuine guy who got fed up with what the NSA were doing and wanted to expose them because of his belief in civil liberties. But then it’s not as if he or Assange will be able to slow down, stop, or reverse the surveillance state. My opinion is sort of it’s good to know but so what? It’s not like people are going to do anything about it. Not as if they’ll go walking down the street and start shooting out and smashing all the CCTVs for starters in some massive campaign to restore citizens’ privacy. Or smash all their smartphones and computers because they’re spying on them. Far from it.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @Justvisiting
  115. peterAUS says:
    @Commentator Mike

    …why is she trying to discredit Snowden?

    Wait. You serious?
    The creature explained that itself, in the comment .95:

    …Call it female intuition, Snowden creeps me out….

    Back to the topic.

    ….I think he’s a genuine guy who got fed up with what the NSA were doing and wanted to expose them because of his belief in civil liberties. …

    That’s my feeling too, but, honestly, don’t care much. It’s impossible to get to the truth in intelligence business unless you are the guy on the top of that particular play. Smoke, mirrors, deceptions…etc.
    Not important, actually.
    What IS important is:

    …it’s not as if he or Assange will be able to slow down, stop, or reverse the surveillance state. My opinion is sort of it’s good to know but so what? It’s not like people are going to do anything about it. ..

    As for the best surveillance tool that is, correct

    ….smash all their smartphones…

    It’s worse. Often, just for fun of it, I mention, when buying things with my card(s) that soon we’ll all have implants instead of cards in our wallets. I do it in an average middle-class environment.
    Reaction, 9 times of 10: “…that would be good…”.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  116. @peterAUS

    Call it female intuition, Snowden creeps me out

    LOL. I guess I didn’t read her post and the thread carefully. But most spies are weird and creepy, seems to be the nature of the job.

    Man, so they’re 90% ready for the mark of the beast? And they’ve long been warned in an old book most are familiar with. So what chance for Jean Raspail or some other more recent author to wake them up with prophecies of doom?

  117. anon[299] • Disclaimer says:
    @Commentator Mike

    > but to mess with your mind too

    Break out the tin foil hats! Myself, I upgraded to an old hubcap. Chicks dig it.

  118. @Commentator Mike

    This is an amazing story of how Naval Intelligence drove a man to suicide utilizing disinformation:

    It does not take very high tech to ruin someone’s life.

  119. From MintPressNews.com that makes clear Snowden’s character, excerpts below; honorable people should read the entire article and see how it verifies my claims:

    https://www.mintpressnews.com/edward-snowden-julian-assange-unfamiliar-permanent-record/262103/

    Edward Snowden’s Julian Assange is an Unfamiliar Julian Assange

    Proponents of press freedom have become accustomed to Pentagon and national security state attacks on Assange, but Snowden’s puzzling claims about the white-haired Australian and his transparency organization are exceptionally dangerous because they come from an otherwise highly respectable and trustworthy source, and at a time when there is otherwise a virtual media blackout on WikiLeaks. To be sure, Snowden deserves recognition as a courageous whistleblower and as a global champion of privacy rights, but in Permanent Record, Snowden appears willing to use a political prisoner for personal gain, deliberately distorting the truth and perpetuating the imperialistic propaganda that threatens not only Assange’s health but also his very life—just like the corporate media and national security state he exposed in 2013.“The final name I chose for my correspondence,” Snowden explains, “was ‘Verax,’ Latin for ‘speaker of truth,’ in the hopes of proposing an alternative to the model of a hacker called ‘Mendax’ (‘speaker of lies’)—the pseudonym of the young man who’d grow up to become WikiLeaks’ Julian Assange.”

    Snowden’s play on Assange’s youthful handle implies not only that Assange is deceitful but also that Assange intends to be deceitful. This insinuation is curious, given that WikiLeaks’ has published over 10 million documents, all of which have been authenticated. Nevertheless, Snowden’s remark is, ironically, not meant to be truthful; instead, it is meant to establish a rhetorical heuristic between Snowden-as-trustworthy and Assange-as-untrustworthy.

    Assange took inspiration for his handle from Horace, a Roman lyric poet from the first century BCE whose writings became extremely popular during the eighteenth-century Enlightenment in Europe. Enlightenment philosophers found in Horace’s writings many Latin phrases, such as sapere aude (“dare to know”) and carpe diem (“seize the day”) that proved useful for their time.

    Following the Enlightenment philosophers whom he admired so much, Assange adapted one of Horace’s Latin catchphrases to create his online identity. “Every hacker has a handle,” Assange writes in Julian Assange: The Unauthorized Autobiography, “and I took mine from Horace’s splendide mendax—nobly untruthful, or perhaps ‘delightfully deceptive.’ I liked the idea that in hiding behind a false name, lying about who or where I was, a teenager in Melbourne, I could somehow speak more truthfully about my real identity.”

    According to Snowden’s history, however, WikiLeaks lost its way after publishing the Iraq and Afghanistan war logs and the U.S. State Department Cables. “Due to government backlash and media controversy surrounding the site’s redaction of the Manning materials, WikiLeaks decided to change course and publish future leaks as they received them: pristine and unredacted.” Because Snowden had already resolved to make sure his NSA documents were redacted to protect sensitive information, he concluded that WikiLeaks’ “switch to a policy of total transparency meant that publishing with WikiLeaks would not meet my needs.”

    The first problem with Snowden’s account is that he offers an inaccurate and superficial history of WikiLeaks’ publication practices.

    An accurate generalized history of WikiLeaks’ publishing goes something like this: Before the Manning leaks, WikiLeaks largely self-published unredacted materials. But in working with corporate media outlets to publish the Afghanistan War Logs, WikiLeaks came under criticism from the U.S. government, corporate media, and other imperialistic detractors for failing to redact sensitive information. So, when it came to publishing the next batch of Manning documents, the Iraq War Logs, Assange allowed redactions and agreed to hold back a portion of the documents for extra review. A similar policy was used for the Cablegate publications (though, the State Department cables were eventually published in after when a foolish Guardian journalist disclosed the password to the document archive in his book).

    Snowden also ignores the fact that the corporate media journalists and editors that WikiLeaks worked with to bring us the news from Manning’s leaked documents were quick to throw him under the bus once they were finished profiting from his document cache. One only need to read the 8,000-word screed that then-New York Times editor Bill Keller published as a means of distancing himself and the “paper of record” from, as he puts it, a smelly, rogue Assange. Not only does he reduce Assange to a “source,” Keller even goes so far as to out Chelsea Manning as the likely culprit for the leak, thus violating the core principles of journalistic ethics.

    Such inept, negligent, and self-serving behavior on the part of Keller and others who benefited from Assange’s work only to turn their backs on him is completely absent from Snowden’s account.

    The second problem with Snowden’s account is that he completely disregards the principles that inform WikiLeaks’ publication practices.

    Assange generally opposes redacting documents for two reasons. On the one hand, Assange views redaction as a form of censorship, “a rather dangerous compromise” and “a very, very dangerous slippery slope.” He observes that corporate news media frequently redact documents not to minimize harm but to either protect people in power from embarrassing revelations or protect themselves from government backlash. In Assange’s view, such self-censorship is the main problem with contemporary news media, and he does not want WikiLeaks to go down that path.

  120. Oh, one final point: this article by Edward Curtin challenges Chris Hedges. I find it applicable to Mr. Snowden.

    http://edwardcurtin.com/revealing-while-concealing-the-invisible-governments-conspiracies/

    Why Does Chris Hedges Hedge His Bets?

    Sometimes it is intentional and is directed by the intelligence agencies themselves or their accomplices in the media, who operate a vast propaganda network. In that case, it is because the secret rulers have been caught doing some evil deed, and, not being able to fully deny it, they admit to part of it while concealing deeper secrets. This is termed “a limited hangout.” It is described by ex-CIA Deputy Director Victor Marchetti, author of The CIA and the Cult of Intelligence, as follows:

    Spy jargon for a favorite and frequently used gimmick of the clandestine professionals. When their veil of secrecy is shredded and they can no longer rely on a phony cover story to misinform the public, they resort to admitting—sometimes even volunteering—some of the truth while still managing to withhold the key and damaging facts in the case. The public, however, is usually so intrigued by the new information that it never thinks to pursue the matter further.

    ***

    For the average person, it is very hard to read between the lines and smell a skunk. The subterfuge is often very subtle and appeals to readers’ sense of outrage at what happened in the past. After the Church Hearings in the 1970s, and then Carl Bernstein’s limited hangout article in Rolling Stone in 1977, where he named the names and “outed” many major media and individuals for having worked with the CIA, many people breathed deeply and consigned these evil and propagandistic activities to the bad old days. But these “limited hangouts” have been going on ever since, allowing people to express outrage and feel some sort of redemption is at hand in the naïve belief that the system is reformable. It is a pipe dream induced by the smallest puff on the media’s latest recreational drug, for which no prescription is needed. The media that more openly and proudly than ever reveal their jobs as stenographers for the intelligence agencies (see my US Media Propaganda. Drawing “Liberals” and “Leftists” into the CIA’s Orbit. NPR).

    A recent article, Our Invisible Government, by the well-known journalist, Chris Hedges, is a typical case in point. As is his habit, he sheds light on much that is avoided by the mainstream press. Very important matters. In this piece, he writes in his passionate style that

    The most powerful and important organs in the invisible government are the nation’s bloated and unaccountable intelligence agencies. They are the vanguard of the invisible government. They oversee a vast “black world,” tasked with maintaining the invisible government’s lock on power.

    This, of course, is true. He then goes on to catalogue ways these intelligence agencies, led by the CIA, have overthrown foreign governments and assassinated their leaders, persecuted and besmirched the names of those – Edward Snowden, Julian Assange, et al. – who have opposed government policies, and used propaganda to conceal the real reasons for their evil deeds, such as the wars against Vietnam, Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya. He condemns such actions.

    He spends much of his article referencing Stephen Kinzer’s new book, Poisoner in Chief: Sydney Gottlieb and the CIA Search for Mind Control and Gottlieb’s heinous exploits during his long CIA career. Known as “Dr. Death,” this Bronx born son of Jewish immigrants, ran the CIA’s mind control programs and its depraved medical experiments on unknowing victims, known as MK-ULTRA and Artichoke. He oversaw the development of various poisons and bizarre methods to kill foreign leaders such as Fidel Castro and Patrice Lumumba. He worked closely with Nazi scientists who had been brought to the United States by Allen Dulles in an operation called Operation Paperclip. Gottlieb was responsible for so many deaths and so much human anguish and suffering that it is hard to believe, but believe it we must because it is true. His work on torture and mind control led to Abu Ghraib, CIA black sites, and assorted U.S. atrocities of recent history.

    Hedges tells us all this and rightly condemns it as “the moral squalor” and “criminality” that it is. Only a sick or evil person could disagree with his account of Gottlieb via Kinzer’s book. I suspect many good people who have or will read his piece will agree with his denunciations of this evil CIA history. Additionally, he correctly adds:

    It would be naive to relegate the behavior of Gottlieb and the CIA to the past, especially since the invisible government has once again shrouded the activities of intelligence agencies from congressional oversight or public scrutiny and installed a proponent of torture, Gina Haspel, as the head of the agency.

    This also is very true. All these truths can make you forget what’s not true and what’s missing in his article.

    But something is missing, and some wording is quite odd and factually false. It is easy to miss this as one’s indignation rises as one reads Hedges’ cataloguing of Gottlieb’s and the CIA’s obscenities.

    He omits mentioning the Clinton administration’s dismantling wars against Yugoslavia, including 78 days of non-stop bombing of Serbia in 1999 that killed thousands of innocent people in the name of “humanitarian intervention,” wars he covered for the New York Times, the paper he has come to castigate and the paper that has a long history of doing the CIA’s bidding.

    He claims that Gottlieb and the CIA’s scientists failed in their “vain quest” for mind control drugs or electronic implants that might, among other things, get victims to act against their wills, such as acting as a Manchurian candidate, and as a result, “abandoned” their efforts. That they failed is not true, and that they abandoned their efforts is unknowable, unless you wish to take the CIA at its word, which is a hilarious thought. How could Hedges possibly know they abandoned such work? A logical person would assume they would say that and continue their work more secretly. On one hand, Hedges says, “It would be naive to relegate the behavior of Gottlieb and the CIA to the past,” but then he does just that. Which is it, Chris? By definition, the “invisible” government, the CIA, never reveals their operations, and lying is their modus operandi, especially with their brazen in-your-face biblical motto: “And ye shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free.”

    He says the invisible deep state “failed to foresee…the 9/11 attacks or the absence of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction.” This is factually wrong and quite absurd, as is well documented. They simply lied about these matters ex post facto. He suggests such failures were due to “ineptitude,” a coy word used by numerous other writers who find reasons to deny intentionality to the “deep state.”

    He therefore is implying that the attacks of September 11, 2001, a subject that he has consistently failed to address over the years even while he has written in detail about so much else, did not involve America’s “invisible government forces.” The ineptitude explanation fails elementary logical analysis. Does he think it was intelligence ineptitude that allowed operatives to wire the highly-secure Twin Towers and Building 7 for controlled demolition that brought those buildings down, as the testimony of one’s eyes and that of hundreds of NYC firefighters who reported explosions throughout the buildings affirm? Ineptitude is another word for avoidance of evidence, gathered over the years by careful scholars and researchers. Ineptitude is another word for the belief “in miracles,” as David Ray Griffin has phrased it.

    What does he think Colin Powell was doing at the United Nations on February 5, 2003 with CIA Director George Tenet sitting behind him when he lied repeatedly and fabricated evidence for Iraq having weapons of mass destruction to promote and justify the U.S. war against Iraq? Ineptitude? A failure of intelligence?

    Chris Hedges is a very intelligent man, so why does he write such things?

    Most importantly, why, when he writes about the past evil deeds of the intelligence operatives – Gottlieb and the CIA’s overseas coups and assassination of foreign leaders, etc. – does he fail to say one word about the CIA’s assassination of domestic leaders, including President John Kennedy in 1963, the foundational event in the invisible government’s takeover of the United States. Can an act be more evil and in need of moral condemnation? And how about the assassinations of Martin Luther King and Robert Kennedy in 1968, or Malcolm X in 1965? Why does Hedges elide these assassinations as if they are not worthy of attention, but Gottlieb’s sick work for the CIA is? Like the attacks of September 11, 2001, he has avoided these assassinations throughout the years.

    I don’t know why. Only he can say. He is a very well-read man, who is constantly quoting from scholars about various important issues. His books are chock full of such quotations and references. But you will look in vain for references to the brilliant, scholarly work of such writers on these assassinations, the attacks of September 11, 2001, and the CIA’s criminal and morally repugnant activities as James Douglass, David Talbot, David Ray Griffin, William Pepper, Graeme MacQueen, Lisa Pease, and so many others. Is it possible that he has never read their books when he has read so much else? If so, why?

    And as the MintPressNews.com article closed with:

    In the end, Permanent Record offers a very strange tale of heroes and villains. Snowden’s primary nemeses are the likes of Bill Keller (who canned a 2004 story about the NSA surveillance program STELLARWIND), James Clapper (who lied to Congress about NSA surveillance programs), Michael Hayden (who was a leading critic of Snowden after the 2013 revelations), and the Bush and Obama administrations that together coordinated sixteen years of illegal wars, drone assassinations, and secret mass surveillance. From this perspective, Snowden has the same enemies as Assange.

    Nevertheless, as soon as Assange enters the narrative, the plot changes. Now Snowden—wittingly or unwittingly—takes up the same rhetoric as Keller, Clapper, Hayden, and Obama, implying that the WikiLeaks founding editor is a deceitful and irresponsible player in the geopolitical publishing game. He uses Assange as a foil in a rhetorical attempt to position himself as a responsible, honest, and humble figure.

    Sadly, Snowden does not need to disparage Assange to appear responsible, honest, and humble—unless, of course, his audience is not the global millions of his adoring supporters but instead the same national security state functionaries he exposed six years ago. If this is the case, perhaps Snowden isn’t as far removed from the United States’ imperialistic project as many of us had hoped.

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