Well done, Carolyn Yeager.

– A classic example of what Carolyn Yeager writes about, here’s all that was found at Sobibor, where 250,000 Jew remains are said to exist. Of these there is no proof of even the age of the skeletons, whether they were even Jews, whether they were even murdered. Yep, the “holocaust” narrative is that bogus.

– Sobibor, mass grave where 250,000 Jew remains are said to exist

much more at:
Simple question: What happened to the people who were sent to the camps?: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=13204
and posted at: unz.com:
https://www.unz.com/article/babi-yar/ — see my comment # 177
and:
https://www.unz.com/?s=graf&Action=Search&ptype=all&commentsearch=only&commenter=Wally

And then there’s this desperate tactic:

The Big False Excuse: ‘excavation & exhumation of Jew remains “forbidden” / But they’re not:
https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6817

“Jewish Burial Law” as fake excuse’: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8997

‘First UK Burial for Holocaust Victims – No Autopsy’: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12231

No alleged human remains of millions in allegedly known locations to see, no ‘holocaust’.

Lack of evidence is not the evidence of absence. Lack of Jewish mass graves which nobody is really looking for because it is not really permitted, ostensively for religion reasons, can not give the answer to the missing Jews providing that there is such a question. Jews are missing only in the Holocaust deniers’ minds. Normal people will agree that the official number of 6,000,000 is might be too high and that rather three to four million Jews died during WWII and they are not missing because they are dead.

Mystery of the Missing Americans

There are 2.6M deaths per year in the US. 50% (1.3M) are cremated. 1/3 of ashes are buried at cemeteries, 1/3 are kept at home and 1/3 are scattered. This means that every year in the US ashes of 430k people are scattered into environment. The 1/3 kept at homes will be scattered into the environment sooner or later so the number of scattered ashes will be circa 800k per year. In 5 years it is 4M people. In 20 years it 16M people. In 40 years it is 32M people.

In last 40 years 32M people vanished w/o a trace. How would you go about proving it to Holocaust deniers that 32M people in American died and that they were not teleported to Venus? There are no graves. No exhumations. Nobody even try to find the answer. Wally of CODOH would not accept any documentation because he would claim it was forged. He would not accept any witness statement because he would claim that all so-called witnesses lie. The claim that 32M Americans in last 40 years died and were cremated can’t be proven. Wally must be right that 32M of Americans were teleported to Venus.

Furthermore, can you imagine the absurdity of cremations? The conspirators want us to believe that they cremate the corpses while charging for shaving the corpses and applying make up and dressing them up in their Sunday’s best. Why would they do it if they allegedly cremate the bodies and plan to throw away the ashes? That does not make sense. For some reason they want them bodies to look good on Venus.

Otoh the question of missing Germans or the question of atrocities committed against Germans can be
tackled by searching mass graves. There is no prohibition against excavating of non Jewish graves. For example why nobody tried to confirm James Bacque’s hypothesis by searching sites of Eisenhower’s POW camps in Germany? If one million or more died there, the graves should be easy to find. Say, 1,000 graves with 1,000 bodies each. Find at least one.

The Jews have a long Talmudic tradition of lying victimhood.

Consider the typically ridiculous self-reports of victimhood in tractate Gittin 57b of the Torah, the 4 BILLION (yes, BILLION) Jews killed by the Romans [Gittin 57b claims Vespasian killed “four hundred thousand myriads” = 400,000 x 10,000 = 4 BILLION] and the 64 MILLION Jewish children skewered and burned in scrolls by the Romans in one city alone [Gittin 58a claims “400 synagogues” each with “400 teachers” and “400 pupils” for each teacher” = 400 x 400 x 400 = 64 million]. http://www.halakhah.com/gittin/gittin_57.html#PARTb http://www.halakhah.com/gittin/gittin_58.html

Truly as Jesus said, children of the Father of Lies and Murder. John 8:44

This article seems eerily similar to Gunnar Heinsohn’s revision of 1st millennium history based on stratigraphy – no layers for a historical period of civilization, then that history is false or fake. 700 phantom years are missing and the collapse of the Roman period seems to thus have occurred circa 930 AD, and not 700 years before.

Given the sensitivity of the topic in this article, I limit comment to the idea that proscriptive dogma is invariably used to bury facts and to keep them buried. Whether proscriptive dogma is used in ignorance based on false beliefs, or is official policy remains moot. But propaganda 101 is to always accuse your opponents of your own crimes.

Without excavation we will indeed never know.

How many ethnic Poles died?

This Google translate from

“Juedische Allgemeine”: the destruction of Poles as a nation was never planned
https://www.dw.com/pl/juedische-allgemeine-zagłada-polaków-jako-narodu-nigdy-nie-była-planowana/a-50041291
Lesser cites numbers given by historians Feliks Tych and Mateusz Gniazdowski, according to which in the occupied territories Germans murdered over 90 percent of Polish Jews and from five to seven percent of ethnic Poles. “In absolute numbers, they were three million Jews and about 1.4 million ethnic Poles,” he writes. In 1947, at the behest of Jakub Berman, a member of the PZPR Central Committee Political Bureau, the number of victims “was arbitrarily rounded to 6 million or 22 percent of the pre-war population. The idea was that Polish Christians would not feel discriminated against as victims of Polish Jews. Berman also hoped that this operation would stop the venomous anti-Semitism in the country, “writes the author.

Got that, you killed nobody. You only brought democracy to every nation you invaded. But you killed my father, you bastards. F U, sickos.

There are many geographical inaccuracies in this article – eg the author thinks that Bruenn is near Aussig. They seem to have a very sketchy understanding of the ethnic fabric of Eastern Europe both before and after WWII and I would therefore caution anyone to accept their findings or conclusions.

“When it comes to Jews, we have only the word of Jewish delegations that thousands of Jews are buried in mass graves that they refuse to excavate.”

Well, story telling and theatrical exaggeration seems to be in their blood, especially the latter.

It’s even commemorated in a song about their most important empire, Hollywood:

“Hooray for Hollywood! Where you’re ‘terrific’ if you’re even good……. ”

Take the exaggerations with a grain (or truckload) of salt, and let’s all just pray the horrors visited upon the hapless Europeans (and everyone else) during WW2 are never repeated……

The War on Knowledge , Truth and Common Sense will go on until the honest researchers get finished with their work. But the Enemies, that wish No sharing of knowledge, truth etc. are many and work very hard at spreading the lies and cover-ups. If the bullets found in these trenches are known to be German made ,plus the date of origin, then maybe we could be told what Pharma company supplied the gaz for all the other proclaimed deaths – the dates and where the chemicals were produced , would be appreciated – also. I thought it was a very good article.

This is the ultimate black pill…

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If it were correct that 3 million Polish Catholics were murdered, as the Catalyst journal states, one must have found in Poland about 750 mass gravesites of the same size during the past 65 years (3,000,000 divided by 4000=750), each with circa 4000 dead. Or 1500 mass gravesites, each with 2000 corpses.

It is not known if even one of those mass gravesites has been found

Really?

I have found one…
http://lasszpegawski.pl/in-english/

At the end of 1944, the Germans, obliterating the crime, burned most of the corpses. In the Szpęgawski Forest, as many as 7,000 people could have died, approximately 2400 names were established. In the cemetery there are 32 mass graves in one complex and 7 graves 500-1000 m away.

Slightly off topic,but also interesting:After the war,13.3 million Germans were deported from Poland,Chekoslovakia and Hungary,but only 7.3 million actually arrived in Germany,mostly women,children and old people.6 million Germans had disappeared.Many of those were sent to Russia for forced labour.
-first post-war German chancellor Konrad Adenauer in a speech in Bern,Switzerland,March 23,1949.

A very informative article. It increasingly looks as though a holocaust was perpetrated against the Germans and not the Jews.

This has to be one of the most risible, amateurish rubbish masquerading as Holocaust revisionism.

The title says -Some Answers to the Mystery of the “Missing Jews” – and whoa 3/4″s of the article is about post WW2 Communist atrocities, did you think that the Stalin & Beria combine would spare anybody associated with the Nazis when they swept East Europe? And the most Hilarious bit is that this dogs puke of an article completely ignores the AR camps, how can you give answers about the missing Jews while ignoring the AR camps.

Listen if you can’t answer about what happened to those ‘Missing Jews’ of the AR camps kindly shut up.

Shame on you Ron for publishing such amateur Rubbish here, if you want to go full Revisionist publish Carlo Mattogno or Rudolf or some professional.

“Jewish groups have undertaken to discover their own mass graves in the Ukraine and Russia, which they claim to be the “killing fields” of World War II.”

What they’re digging up is probably the remains of the millions of Ukrainians the Bolshevik Jews murdered through forced famine in 1932 and the millions of Russian Christians they slaughtered starting in 1917. Historical irony indeed.

There is no definitive history. More will come to light as research continues, or should I say as long as it is allowed to continue?

Jewish lies number in the trillions.

Jewish fraud is centered on six million.

In other words, Nazis were actually a good guys, while Soviet, Yugoslav communists were the villains?You are counting Poles, Jews and Checks, while forgetting to count all the others, like Gypsies, Russians, Serbs and other Slavs?

What an extraordinary article. Why are these facts not generally known? Yes, I am joking. History is of course always written by the victors. And the Jews always seem to win…

I don’t understand why Jewish groups and their rabbis were given control of two mass grave sites. Did the civil authorities conspire with the Jews to pretend the bodies were of Jews?

Or did the civil authorities know that if bodies were found when laying a pipeline that they were certainly Jewish bodies?

Although mass graves of non-Jews were known to have been in those regions?

If skeletons are found I guess it’s hard by examining them to know they were Jews. But why was it assumed that they were?

And when the Jews wanted the pipeline work stopped, I suppose it would have stopped simply because there were bodies there, whether Jewish or not.

I may have failed to understand the article. Or perhaps it omits relevant information.

Was it known that the bodies were of people who died during the war? That the skeletons were not centuries old?

Furthermore, can you imagine the absurdity of cremations?

Indeed, you had better struggle mightily, because in the year 2020 we have learned that all of the crematories in Italy combined were unable to dispose of more than a few hundred bodies per week. Struggle!

Here’s a suggestion; if you like poetry and read German, try Gertrud Kolmar. If you like opera. read about Ottilie Metzger-Lattermann (one of the Kaiser’s favorite singers). If you like classical music, follow the career of Viktor Ullmann. Just these three for a start so you can find out how peacefully they died. However, I have a strong feeling you would prefer to deal in millions (or the lack of) instead of individual fates.

It’s now possible to determine quite closely ethnicity from a skeleton.

Possibly even use that to identify living relatives.

So many mysteries will yield to science over the next few years.

But let’s see, how many Germans died at the Dresden bombings? None, because we can’t find their graves to count? The first victim of war is truth, numbers are almost always wrong or difficult to estimate. Propaganda from one side is no different than propaganda for the other side.

Brno is on the opposite (southwestern) side of Czechia from Ústí nad Labem, in Moravia.

Thank you for this information. It is astonishing how much people aren’t allowed to know. Mass graves of Germans murdered by the communists, and many tens of thousands of Slovenians, Croats and others who fought the communists. But socialist school teachers in Europe harp endlessly about “gassed Jews”.

Jews get control of found graves and immediately erect fences and memorials, without excavation, declaring them Jews. “Proof that Jews were killed!” No mass graves of Jews ever found at any of the concentration camps. The “einsatzgruppen” have been blamed for killing Jews – of course the Jews hated them, as they were the ones tasked with beating down communist attacks on German forces behind the front army.

Unz Review should concentrate on these factual stories, rather than Marxist fantasies by people like “Eric Striker,” who claims that “the Soviet Union would have worked if it had been Germans instead of Slavs,” and constantly makes excuses for socialists while making sure you concentrate your anger about Black riots on conservatives. Unz Review should clean the ranks.

This article (like the comment section) is full of retarded trash. The Holocaust happened, and the number of brutally murdered people has likely been officially underestimated, and the only people denying the Holocaust are those with a serious learning disability and poor attention span. I also suspect many of the people in the comment section (such as GeeBee) are coping Jewish individuals.

Not just the missing jewish remains – misleading and skewing.
There is another nasty double standard re the victims of the well known German and other nazi aligned Labour (concentration) camps.
How many on here have heard of Jasenovac?
It was a death camp – a real death camp.
So vile even the gestapo were sickened.
It was a Nazi Croatian mass murder camp where hundreds of thousands of allied Serbs, gypsies and others died, suffering appalling torture and murder.
The Serbs – who NATO/US/UK mass murdered and bombed back to the stonage some 25 years ago – died valiantly and like flies – tying up whole divisions of the Germans.
In gratitude and on behalf of the islamic fundamentalist Saudi leaning KLA we repaid this debt illegally attacked the Serbs – the only ethnic cleansing being some 700,000 Serb refugees driven from their ancestral homes in the Krajina (20,000 more murdered because they couldn’t leave fast enough), over a quarter of a million of them out of their ancestral homeland of Kosovo and many from Bosnia and other parts.
700,000 who lost it all.
Reparations due I think.
All illegal and to give radical islam a base in Southern Europe and build a massive USA base – Camp Bondsteel.
Back to Jasenovac .
This was the most deadly and brutal camp of all.
Heard of it.
NO.
Few Jrewish victims so written out of history.
Just as have been the millions of non jews killed in the other camps.
The disabled etc – many catholics.
All written out as only Jews can be the victims.
Here are just a few of the links to Jasenovac.
And ask yourself why the silence on the suffering of the Serbians – huge numbers dying fighting for we the allies – not as some groups, not fighting at all but profiteering.
https://jasenovac.org/what-was-jasenovac/
https://www.neweurope.eu/article/jasenovac-the-forgotten-extermination-camp-of-the-balkans/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0252563/
So why the silence – only one holocaust allowed?.
And Serbs are not members of that club.
And how many know that the Serbs have been completely vindicated and Milosevic declared an innocent man of war crimes .
Murdered non the less in his prison
http://johnpilger.com/articles/provoking-nuclear-war-by-media

Italians must be incompetent. India cremates over six million each year.

But let’s see, how many Germans died at the Dresden bombings?

Funny you should ask. Encyclopedia Britannica says 135,000
https://www.britannica.com/event/bombing-of-Dresden

Wikipropaganda says 25,000 tops.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II

My guess is all that got killed died.

Let me start with this:

One is the last communist head of state for Poland from 1985-90, Wojciech Jaruzelski. Speaking to a journalist of Izvestia (Russian daily newspaper), he said, rather tongue-in-cheek, that he cannot understand how the Polish population exploded between 1946 and 1970, and then leveled off to become stagnant from 1990 till today. He humorously remarked that there had to have been “a strong aphrodisiac” to lead to the birth of millions of new Poles because “in the grocery stores there had been only vinegar and millions had died even after the war.”

What the late General is referring to is the common trope that during communism (actually socialism but I will leave that for another time) there was only ‘musztarda i ocet’ that is mustard and vinegar on store shelves. It was a common accusation against the system as a whole and Jaruzelski personally since he was an important part of the said system. On more than one occasion he defended himself and his times by pointing out – sometimes in a tongue-in -cheek fashion as in the quoted citation – that it could have not been so bad if Poland’s population growth is anything to go by (he sometimes pointed out other advances but again I do not want to side-track here) as Poland indeed experienced a demographic explosion. Of course this resulted in many problems, for example despite a program of massive apartment block building – in virtually every Polish city and town you will see rows and rows of such apartment blocks standing – there was a chronic housing shortage.

Thus with citing Gen. Jaruzelski’s remarks in the context of Polish and Jewish victims of German atrocities Ms. Yeager and her sidekick managed to make it to the very top of Unz review’s comic relief category. My sincere congratulations.

That was the funny part and here comes the more serious one.

Namely Ms. Yeager and her sidekick were kind enough to write: ‘The only known mass grave of Poles was the work of the Soviet Red Army, led by the NKVD, in the Katyn Forest in Soviet Russia.’

Let me just point out, that mass graves with Polish victims of German mass executions were located among other places at:

Palimiry, Las Sękocinski, Las kabacki, Laski and many, many others locations such as for example Ponary (outside of Poland’s post WW II borders in present-day Lithuania).

I do not know if Ms. Yeager and her sidekick are that ignorant in regard to the topic they write about or if they deliberately lie, or alternatively there is some other explanation – that however is of secondary importance. What is of primary importance is that what they wrote is not factually correct.

One could go on dissecting Ms. Yeager’s and her sidekick’s writings however I have better things to do on Sunday. Yet the above should suffice to put parts of their ‘work’ into the category of comedies while others into that of falsities* – that in turn weighs heavily on what to make of the rest.

*With one caveat though: hundreds of years of Drang nach Osten were indeed reversed in a very short time at the end of WW II, sometimes in a brutal way. Thus there IS some truth in what Ms. Yeager and her sidekick produced, this being in the category of an exception which confirms the rule in regard to the rest.

What is a ‘coping Jewish individual’ exactly? You are of course at liberty to suspect me of being anything you like. But none of your suspecting will ever change me from being anything other than a proud, thoroughbred Yorkshire Anglo-Saxon, who can trace both parents’ lines back for centuries with no trace of anything outside of our own fine, yeoman, Anglo-Saxon bloodline.

My admittedly unusual ‘take’ on twentieth-century history arose from making a closer study of it than I had hitherto stirred myself so to do, in the wake of having been obliged to take early retirement at a convenient moment, in that it coincided with the appearance of much hitherto unavailable information thanks to the burgeoning internet era. My prior studies had by no means been trivial: I had taken modules in both War Studies and International Affairs to degree standard while at the Royal Military Academy Sandhurst.

At all events, I believe my current position to reflect a good deal more of the truth than is contained in the ‘official’ history, and I can assure you that my epiphany in this regard occasioned me the very keenest mental anguish at first. Not to put too fine a point on it, I found my life-long beliefs turned upside down. Not at all a welcome development, but one that intellectual honesty compelled me to accept.

Don’t be so cynical. Because the Jews acting collectively have never and can never do anything wrong, it follows that any criticism of their collective behavior anywhere and at any time, whether today or throughout history, is hate speech.

We also know from Freudian science that it arises from envy and that paranoid guilt-projection plays no part in their condemnation of the Other. Laws to that effect throughout Europe also provide scientific evidence that Jews never lie and, therefore, their narratives of events taking place outside the laws of nature and not subject to rules of logic or scientific method must be true.

So, Mr. Holocaust doubter, just maybe the rabbis, reaching into the pits, have discovered miraculously intact passports, photos, and birth certificates as before, using the forensic skills their agents displayed in the ashes of the Trade Center and Pentagon to locate paper miraculously immune from fire, water, and the forces of explosion sufficient to render concrete into dust.

And when the Jews wanted the pipeline work stopped, I suppose it would have stopped simply because there were bodies there, whether Jewish or not.

I may have failed to understand the article. Or perhaps it omits relevant information.

The omitted info is the following:

Ukraine is a US/Israel controlled nation since 2014.

Nuland’s, a Jewish Zionist, world famous battle cry begin the Zionist coup and Zio rule of Ukraine with these infamous words “F–k the EU.”Poroshenko the first president of this Zion colony was half Jewish.The second president Zelensky is Jewish.The Zionists in control of this US/Israel colony are even afraid Shabbos Goy to take the presidency of their new colony.

It is true that India cremates millions per year, that is their tradition. However to attend a Hindu cremation and to observe, really observe the logistics required to burn ONE body is to realize the impossibility of German logistics to effectively do away with 6 million in addition to fighting a war against multiple opponents.

One need not have a Doctorate in Maths. Just pick a modern City with 3 million inhabitants, visit it and drive around it extensively and now imagine you will completely decimate TWO (2) cities like it by killing and burning every single human being in them. The infrastructure, transportation, human resources and material logistics required for such a task are horrendous. At the same time you are fighting a major war against several nations, 2 with with almost unlimited manpower and industrial capacity. Toward the end of the war Germany was fighting on 3 fronts, being bombed to smithereens and also battling partisans in several countries AND also running their extermination program ??

It is one thing for 6 million families in India to cremate 6 million relatives. I find it hard to believe that the staff in all the concentration camps would be up to this numerical task AND make the bones and ashes of 6 million disappear completely.

I love a good ghost story but my powers of belief have their limit.

Listen if you can’t answer about what happened to those ‘Missing Jews’ of the AR camps kindly shut up.

We know what happened to the Jews in the AR camps, they were burned. And we have proof … Action 1005 was led by Paul Blobel who confessed.

We even know how he did it … from his confession …https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/obliterating-the-traces-of-bodies-of-jews-killed-by-the-einsatzgruppen-june-1947

During my visit in August I myself observed the burning of bodies in a mass grave near Kiev. This grave was about 55 m. long, 3 m. wide and 2½ m. deep. After the top had been removed the bodies were covered with inflammable material and ignited. It took about two days until the grave burned down to the bottom. I myself observed that the fire had glowed down to the bottom. After that the grave was filled in and the traces were now practically obliterated.

The holohoax is a collection of preposterous lies … see ..

It is dangerous to not take your meds ! Sounds like you might need to increase the doseage. Please see your Doctor immediately.

I just don’t know where to start. Whole “article” is such a BS. OK, let’s start from beginning then:

Two responsible figures have recently and publicly added their voices to the question of six million Poles murdered (ostensibly by Nazis) between 1939 and 1945.

“One is the last communist head of state for Poland from 1985-90, Wojciech Jaruzelski (…)”

LOL.

General Wojciech Jaruzelski. Head of military junta that took over power from Party in 1982, responsible for murdering dozens of people. Cold blood mass murderer, aparatchik, liar and Soviet hardliner. Such a perfect “responsible figure”! And delicious cherry on top – he most likely was “wtornik” too (it’s margin note, I can explain meaning of this term and whole story but only if somebody will be genuinly interested). During inteview with Soviet, communist, cenzored newspaper. Said something. Wow! Groundbreaking news. Let’s rewrite all history books.

The other is Dr. Otwald Mueller, a well-known German researcher.

Right…

Let’s check this “researcher”.

“Die Welt (German newspaper “The World”), September 2, 2009: “beginning of WW II, 6 million victims in Poland, half of them Jews….”

2) Daily Gazette (Schenectady, N.Y.), September 2, 2009: “….Poland alone lost 6 million citizens, half of them Jews” (…)

An important chart

There exists an important Polish population chart. It marks a pre-war Polish population of 29.89 million people, and for the year 1946 a population of 23.6 million.”

SO HE IS WELL-KNOWN GERMAN RESERCHER?

And his scientic research regarding even basic facts are based on bloody TABLOIDS? GERMAN TABLOIDS? And he can not even “research” population chart for Poland?

ROTFL is not enough.

Are you mocking and insulting all Poles and Polish citizens who died during WWII? Or perhaps all world’s scientists and reserchers including half-baked and fully stoned first year history course students? Do you think all your readers are complete idiots?

Facts: Republic of Poland population in 1938: Roughly 35 millions. NOT 29.89 millions. 35 MILLIONS.

Here any kind of discussion ends. I kindly ask all readers to check that one fact yourself. Find Poland population before WWII. Got it? Now ask yourself: do you like to be fooled like that? This “well-known German reasercher” (and Carolyn Yeager and Wilhelm Kriessmann who published such a BS) lied to you about most basic fact. Cause they think that you are absolute idiots. Are you?

Anyway. Just for fun let’s verify very next “fact”:

“There exists an important Polish population chart. It marks a pre-war Polish population of 29.89 million people, and for the year 1946 a population of 23.6 million. The difference is of approximately 6 million, or 21% of the total population. The chart seems to prove the statement of “6 million” but, on the contrary, it contradicts it.”

“and for the year 1946 a population of 23.6 million”.

True.

“The difference is of approximately 6 million, or 21% of the total population.”

The difference is approx. 11 MILLIONS, or 33% of the total population.

And yes. It was that bad. One third of total population lost (notice: LOST! Not all died. Some publications did indicate that 6 millions died, it could be one of the reasons for possible confusion regarding subject, among others)

Source: As for official count and confirmation of data I recommend Nuremberg Trials protocols and final statements. It’s all there. Again – if you are interested find exact relevant data yourself, source provided.

“That shows in a significant way how Polish history – better Polish fairy tales – works.”

Yes. I do understand Otwald Mueller is absolutely hideous, abhorrent and disgusting person.
Not only liar, not only completely fake “researcher” and real Nazi comforter and backer but absolutely disgusting character too. No doubt about it. Still it’s always good to know the true, whatever it is.

Let’s “reserch” just next fact. That will be simply very next sentence.

“We must keep in mind that 31% of Poland’s population was of non-Polish origin one million were German, as you can see from names of cities like Stettin, Gruenberg and Breslau.”

We have to, we really have to keep in mind Otwald Muller is not only hideous person, liar and fake researcher but also complete idiot. We are talking absolute moron who is willing to lie about most basic facts, even when simpliest fact checking will expose him as a complete fraud.

Now, I do not know exact ethnic population of Poland in given time. I can easily check it but there is no point. Let’s assume it was 31% of non-Polish, just for the sake of argument. And let’s assume 1 million were Germans.

“as you can see from names of cities like Stettin, Gruenberg and Breslau”

German science at it finest.

1. STETTIN is GERMANIZED name for Polish name SZCZECIN, not the other way around.
2. Same story with Wroclaw (for short period of time known as Breslau).

Exposing this german moron (and those behind him) is like kicking a puppy. I am sure he is true vile character, he has very worst intentions for real victims of WWII and he is doing his best to cover German crimes of WWII.

Still exposing him does fell like kicking a puppy.

And I am not going to waste more time exposing more of this BS “letter” and BS “article anyway. Not unless somebody will be genuinly interested.

So one final note regarding lol very german cities of Stettin and Breslau:

My English isn’t fluent so I explain it in simplest way I can. Szczecin is a name for settlement built/established by Slavs (Wkrzanie) in VII century. It is old city and old name. Yes, most of city dwellers were Germans from like XVI century to 1945. No it’s not because this city was build by Germans. It was taken by Germans (not Germany, it was Hanza, lol, it’s a long story, to cut it short – let’s say Germans) centuries after it rose and they changed name only a bit, to make it easier to pronounce. Germans don’t do SZ and CZ diphthtongs hence Stettin. It is as easy and simple.
BTW there is so much more to the story of Szczecin. Like city coat of arms (“Gryf” or “Gryfin”, eng. Griffin) and the fact even when citizens were mostly Germans, for 500 years rulers where “Gryfici” native Poles of House of Griffin. Very old and noble family. House of Griffin ended in XVII century, natural causes.

Breslau. It’s even funnier. Again. Breslau is germanized name for Polish city.

And again. Fascinating story but let’s keep it short. First settlement then town, then city. Slavs, Poles, Poles. One of most important Polish cities. First name recorded?

Vuartizlau. 1133. In Thietmar’s Chronicle.

Now if you are not familiar with Thietmar then just a brief: Thietmar of Merseburg, German, bishop, historician. Kudos to him for good effort in writing down city name as similar to way it was spoken as posssible. Vuartizlau gives a lot of hints regarding, well, many things.

Bullshit.

Serbian ideology is chock full of lies. For instance, lunatic Serbian ideologues (Milojević, Lukin Lazić, Pjanić Luković, Deretić), from the 1870s to the 2010s, have claimed that:

* Mesopotamians are actually Serbs
* Siberia got the name from Serbs (S-b-r..well, it’s like S-r-b)
* half (at least) of Egyptian pharaohs & Roman emperors were Serbs
* Jesus was a Serb
* Homer, Aristotle etc. wrote in Serbian
* all Slavs are actually Serbs, as well Germans etc.
* all ancient civilizations, except yellow races (Egypt, Mesopotamia, India, Rome, Greece,..) were Serbian
* etc. etc.

As far as WW II is considered, official censuses from 1931. (the last census in Royalist Yugoslavia) and from 1948. (the first in Communist Yugoslavia) show that there are c. 700,000 more Serbs in all of Yugoslavia- and 3,500-14,000 less Croats, despite annexation of Croatian areas formerly held by Fascist Italy (Istria, Rijeka, 5 islands with exclusively Croatian population).

So, Serbs who are supposedly the greatest victims in ex-Yu WW II show a growth in absolute numbers by 700,000 & Croats who are supposedly perpetrators, or lesser victims- are diminished in absolute numbers by 14,000 (despite adding a significant Croatian-only territory)?

The whole Yugoslav & Serbian narrative about WW II is one big, fat lie.

the Germans, obliterating the crime, burned most of the corpses.

There is the convergence of evidence again!

Jews (and Catholics) are inflammable!

It’s shocking to me that we don’t have hundreds of thousands of people bursting into flames on a daily basis.

I don’t understand why Jewish groups and their rabbis were given control of two mass grave sites. Did the civil authorities conspire with the Jews to pretend the bodies were of Jews?

Ukraine has a Jewish president and a Jewish prime minister. The current regime was installed following a coup organised by their Jewish cousins in the USA. Fewer than 1% of the population is Jewish – but this is a democratic government after all.

Politicians and journalists who don’t toe the line are shot. The victims never seem to be Jewish. Here is the latest one only a few weeks ago – May 22. I doubt if it made the MSM anywhere.

Ukrainian lawmaker found dead in central Kyiv (Jewspeak)

He was not “found dead”. He was executed with a bullet to the head.

It did not happen in “central Kyiv”. It took place in his parliamentary office.

Anyone who ever fought in a war will tell you there are no good guys, no side is right while the other is wrong. All war is atrocity on both sides sometimes deliberate sometimes just sheer revenge. To experience the reality of a battlefield, before, during and after is to try to survive under the most terrible conditions physically and emotionally intact.

As I tell any young man who would lend me an ear. There is no glory and honour in war. These are words the politicians use to provoke youth to wash their dirty laundry while they chill in nice comfortable and safe homes licking up the finest wines and foods. The youth get to eat any cheap shit they feed you, in a hole, with assorted vermin, without a bath or change of clothes for at times several days, most times defecating and peeing in your pants from necessity or sheer terror. Why nourish and nurture a man who may have a life expectancy of a few hours ?

I dont look at war movies. They are all bullshit. I passed the TV once when my son was looking at one such movie. The actors all look so clean and well groomed. An artillery shell landed and some of them somersaulted as if they had bounced on a trampoline and then landed all intact. That is Hollywood! The reality ? When a heavy shell lands among men they disappear. You might find a leg with the boot still attached. A discerning person may say “Yeah, that is Billy’s leg. I remember because the boot had such and such a mark carved on it”. But the rest of Billy is nowhere to be found. Its called “Missing in Action”

During and after a war, civilians may wax about humanity, peace and love and goodwill to all men, who was good and who were the criminal types but those classifications do not exist on a battlefield or in a war. Even God is nowhere in sight, what would he be doing there anyway ?

And if God has made himself scarce who or what is good and who and what is bad ?

Once again, proof that Jews are inflammable!

If only we could find a way to burn dead Jews next to a flywheel, our energy problems would be solved.

Normal people will agree that the official number of 6,000,000 is too high…

Agree!

Lack of evidence is not the evidence of absence.

Jews are missing only in the Holocaust deniers’ minds.

Were there ever two better lines written to illustrate the hate that Jews have for non-Jews and the disrespect that Jews have for the minds of non-Jews?

“Keep searching goy, lack of evidence that you are a murderer does not mean that you are not”

“Lack of hard evidence of your crimes and our victimhood is only lack of evidence in your mind”.

What a lunatic.

Completely representative of your people.

Wonder no longer why you people draw so much animosity.

Normal people will agree that the official number of 6,000,000 is might be too high and that rather three to four million Jews died during WWII and they are not missing because they are dead.

“Normal people will agree”

Who is this, a member of the special needs Hasbara team? Using condescending rhetoric that is so rudimentary and ineffective that it is given to the short bus participants to make noise? Is today also the field trip to the yeshiva, where you will read from the torah like a real Jewish boy?

No one “normal” would agree with your any of your self-interested logic after reading the lines that I prior highlighted. In fact, “normal people” would reflexively investigate the opposite position.

In fact, “normal” people would and do discount the entire story after it came out, as admitted by Jews themselves, that Simon Wiesenthal invented the additional 5 million non-Jewish dead for sympathy. And that lie was put forward as true for decades.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/remember-the-11-million-why-an-inflated-victims-tally-irks-holocaust-historians/

You people don’t lose “part credit” or “part credibility” for that lie. You lose it all. And that’s before we get to the rest of the proof against Holocaust logic.

You are inveterate liars, mass murderers, willing oppressors, and thieves.

Even when Jews LIE it is only to bring joy into the world. Take one Herman Rosenblat who wrote, “Angel At The Fence,” describing his time in a concentration camp during WWII. Good ole Herman was making the talk show circuit with his book and there were plans for a movie, UNTIL, it was found out that good ole Herman Rosenblat had made the whole story up, it was a LIE. The nice Jewish boy, Herman, had Doprah Pigfrey calling his book the greatest love story of all time. teehee. When caught in a LIE, Herman said he was only guilty of trying to bring joy into the world.

Jews are such a caring people. Jews are champions of human rights for everyone and they always seem to take joy in their role as their brother’s keeper. Here was a Jewish man who did not seek fame nor money, no sir, his concern was bringing joy into the world through a book. Jews can teach humanity so much. Jews have suffered so much. And don’t let Jewish power, money, and influence fool you, or their role in the pornography business or other seedy occupations, Jews are people of the Book, and the pillars of the community. Jews have championed the fight against White racism and civil rights for Blacks, they are tireless workers for truth, justice and the American Way just like Superman. Go Jews.

exception which confirms the rule

Fallacious. Taurus excretus cerebus perplexus – and we all know which party throws most of the BS in the perverse hope of obfuscation – they just can’t help themselves. Then see 33.Anonymous[506]. rgds

Keep in mind how many tons is 1,00,000 people. If the average weight of 1,000,000 people was 135 pounds then the total weight of that 1 million is 135,000,000 lbs. Divide that by the number of pounds in 1 ton which is 2,000lbs and you get 67,500 tons of human remains. Now how the hell do you hide that much human remains of one million people much less 6 million.

Always remember that the other pertinent truth is that the Jews were guilty of everything that the Germans accused them of.

As is well-evidenced by what Jews support, control, and how they otherwise act as a political group today.

The Jews are no different than Al Qaeda. They merely work to hurt outsiders with lies about their identities and motivations, their control of the press, their influence on the culture, and their perfidious political actions once embedded in governments. Instead of with literal IEDs.

Jewish goals are parallel to the goals of Al Qaeda, with much better results.

That the Jewish and Islamic religions share virtually all of their theological DNA is not a coincidence.

True that jews always seem to win but the fact is they cant lose one major war or they are done forever. Israel cant lose one war or she is done. Arabs can lose 10 wars and the come back for another one someday. If Hitler would have won jews would have been done.

I know the place they are discussing and you have to remember Odecca has always been a heavy Jewish city. But only when it suits their best interests. In this case – getting more free land and calling out the Orthodox folks . Even goes back to the Khazarian/ Pecheneg times, when they chose to be Jews because the Ottomans in the south and the Rooskies in the north were pressing them to be either Islamic or Orthodox. Of course they chose the ” chosen ones religion” for their slave trade and usury / theft trade. The normal Russians/Crimeans that I know that are jews are way cool folks – they even have family is Israel but no big ego. Just normal Russians.

I read the link you provided,

Thats it? seriously?

said:
“Was it known that the bodies were of people who died during the war? That the skeletons were not centuries old?”

No.

That’s what I meant when I said:

“Of these there is no proof of even the age of the skeletons, whether they were even Jews, whether they were even murdered. ”

Best.

In justice, absence of evidence is absence of evidence and has been for thosand of years everywhere, except for ancient Egypt . If you cannot provide evidence, the accused is innocent. This is called presumption of innocence.

Lack of evidence is not the evidence of absence.

Very good thinking that adds up to nothing more than:

The original statement is that “absence of proof is not proof of absence,” which simply means that a lack of proof for something doesn’t, in and of itself, prove that the thing is false. But lack of evidence for something is most definitely evidence that the thing in question may be false, especially when there should be evidence for that thing.

https://www.bing.com/search?q=absence+of+evidence+is+not+proof&form=WNSGPH&qs=AS&cvid=8456f19bbf1f4cbc86d8334b0836c137&pq=absence+of+evidence&cc=US&setlang=en-US&PC=LCTS&nclid=1FD86AA1E9C61CF1E0ED02564AB0D376&ts=1592150685972&wsso=Moderate

But beyond the silly proof you offer that the absence of evidence is proof of presence, the answer to your question about how one would prove that those whose ashes disappeared had really died is easily answered by death certificates, cremation records, and evidence of funerals or memorial services that were held, and announcement about the death of the deceased.

But even your notion that the ashes of the holocaust victims would have been as scattered as would be the case of cremated remains scattered throughout the United Statges by relatives is absurd with rerspect to holocaust victims who were all allegedly killed in very confined geographic spaces and whose ashes the Germans certainly did not bother to scatter throughout Europe to hide them as your example of relatives scattering the ashes of relatives throughout the country would have them do.

That you would even provide this example to substantiate the holocauset reveals the absurdity of your claiming it happened as claimed. Had it happened on the scale claimed, there would be massive evidence of it just as the examples provided in the article about the mass graves of real victims that have been found.

Indeed, given the millions killed in the fighting on the Eastern Front there should be endless examples of mass graves first of the millions of Russians killed during the German advance the Germans almost certainly buried in mass graves as the Russians did likewise of the Germans killed during the Russian advance.

So where is the evidence?

An easy place to look as Babi Yar where 30,000 Jews were reportedly murdered in a very specific site. Why has no one looked to prove it with the evidence of the bodies?

– You really should know what you’re talking about before you speak.
Remember, it is your “Holocaust Industry” which claims that such immense human grave sites exist in known locations, not Revisionsts.

– Revisionists are just the messengers, the absurd impossibility of the laughable ‘holocaust’ storyline is the message.

– The millions of other deaths you cite are not based upon the ridiculous “holocaust” claims of enormous numbers of people dying in highly centralized locations in which, again, the locations are supposedly known.

– As for military deaths, I remind that that there are cemeteries all over Europe.

– There have been many, many attempts to find the alleged huge mass graves in which many millions have been supposedly dumped. Those attempts failed miserably, as I demonstrated about Sobibor in the first comment in this thread.

Here’s another of the many examples examples I can cite.
– !! Excavation Result: No Human Remains of alleged 34,000 Jews as claimed at Babi Yar !! In fact, no remains period.: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11314
more examples here:
https://www.unz.com/?s=haimi&Action=Search&ptype=all&commentsearch=only&commenter=Wally
and:
https://www.unz.com/?s=sturdy-colls&Action=Search&ptype=all&commentsearch=only&commenter=Wally

– Of course, utu, you have been challenged at this site for proof of the scientifically impossible ‘gas chambers’ that you believe in.:
https://www.unz.com/?s=utu&Action=Search&ptype=all&commentsearch=only&commenter=Wally

Croat Ustaša killed thousand of Serbs, it’s well documented, do you deny that?

This is supposedly from a Gestapo report, if true it’s quite damning, it’s not a source that would want to incriminate their own allies:

Increased activity of the bands [of rebels] is chiefly due to atrocities carried out by Ustaše units in Croatia against the Orthodox population. The Ustaše committed their deeds in a bestial manner not only against males of conscript age, but especially against helpless old people, women and children. The number of the Orthodox that the Croats have massacred and sadistically tortured to death is about three hundred thousand

(I have no dog in this fight, but have more sympathy for Serbs than for Croats because of the way the have been treated by the U.S. Empire recently).

The AR camps and complete lack of forensic evidence at each of them is mentioned. I can see why the focus is on Auschwitz because if Jews brought more attention to Treblinka it would be obvious how fake the whole thing is.

Dear Genrick

Do you really think German occupants did burn their own fellow citizens on polish soil in 1939?

What is written is completely unhistorical and untrue statement that nobody can find any polish citizens mass graves in Poland.

Authors did not check basic data like number of polish citizens before the war – almost 35 millions. But we can read in the article …

It marks a pre-war Polish population of 29.89 million people.

What is the purpose of such obvious mistake/falsification?

Dear Sir, it is inappropriate to quote oneself they say thus I will refer you back to my original comment which you were kind enough to comment yourself. Sufficient to say I pointed out that Ms. Yeager and her sidekick made fools out of themselves with their choice of Gen. Jaruzelski’s quote and have a nonchalant attitude towards facts when it comes to mass graves of German atrocities victims.

In this context I can not help but also to point out that it is not the first time Ms. Yeager wrote nonsense and not the first time to I call her out on that either.

Thus if anyone here is a peddler of taurus excretum it is Ms. Yeager who has a proven track record of being one.

For this reason when she occasionally gets something right it is similar to a broken clock showing the right time every twelve hours.

“Let the dead bury their dead”. Instead of harping on such issues with a discussion that never ends and is rather pointless, Europeans would do better to focus on the future and reproduce more. Of course, “Holocaust denial” and similar speech criminalization laws would have to go too, it’s time, soon there will be no survivors alive, and it will hopefully be forgotten like all wars. There’s no need to keep talking about this things forever, let’s forgive and forget, and think about the future. If Europe becomes majority African and Arab in the next 100 years, then what’s the point of discussing what flavour of white killed which flavour of white? It won’t matter anymore… I mean non-whites are already toppling Churchill statues, and Churchill was until recently an “anti-fascist” and a hero of both leftists and neo-cons.

“...the only people denying the Holocaust are those with a serious learning disability and poor attention span ...”

… and those poor, deluded people who prefer to have evidence, and not just Hollywood films created by people with an agenda to push and a story to sell!

Individual fates?
Anything to do with the Hollow-co$t narrative is suspect. What kind of “death camps” have hospitals for internees? What kind of “death camps” have scrip for prisoners to spend at a canteen? What kind of “death camps” have orchestras and theaters for internees? Why would “death camps” record marriages and births? The Olympic size swimming pools and soccer fields for internees at “death camps” were there, obviously, as another form of mass murder by forcing the internees to swim until they drowned or run until they collapsed.
How about the individual fates of the women and children burned to death in the incendiary bombing of Hamburg and Dresden, or the deaths of 1600 civilians who drowned when the Ruhr Valley dams were bombed? More teenage girls named Anne died in one night of allied bombing than ever died in concentration camps.
To paraphrase David Irving, more people died in the back seat of Ted Kennedy’s car than in homicidal gas chambers at Auschwitz. It is indeed, unfortunate that people died, but the Jewish “leadership” declared war on Germany in 1933. The deaths of the three people you named is on their hands for scheming against the legitimate government of Germany.

Authors claimed they can not find any example of documented mass grave of polish citizens.

I don’t think there is a big problem to find info about such topics if you need.

https://ipn.gov.pl/en/news/4230,The-world039s-largest-cemetery-of-the-clergy-Polish-clergy-in-KL-Dachau.html

You may visit Dachau and check on site.

According to Kurt Vonnegut, author of Slaughterhouse 5, and Victor Gregg, POWs who helped with the “clean up”, a whole lot more than what has been estimated.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/feb/15/bombing-dresden-war-crime

Curious that the fanatical record keeping Nazis have no record of the amount of coke needed to burn the numbers of alleged victims cremated at concentration camps. Meanwhile, the Soviet archives released camp records are in line with the Red Cross estimates and Bletchley Park transcripts. Obviously, they are all lying and Yad Vesham is correct.

(actually socialism but I will leave that for another time)

You wouldn’t know what socialism was if it bit you in the arse. Your local co-op is socialist.

Grow up. You are not in the court. You are not even in the court of public opinion. You are among the Holocaust denial retards. You are one of them actually.

I beg your pardon? There is a good chance I have more first-hand experience with socialism (as Realsozialismus) then you have experience with anything at all.

Just a c-p for clueless people.

* during 1918-1939 period, Yugoslavia was basically a softer version of Greater Serbia, with all nations-except Slovenes- oppressed. Close to 400 Croats & ca. 2000 Muslims had been killed by Serbian paramilitaries & government forces during “peaceful” period in the 1920s & 1930s. The turning point was assassination of Croatian leader Stjepan Radić, a sort of Croatian Gandhi, by a Serb nationalist in Yugoslav parliament in 1928. This convinced some Croats that any Yugoslavia was insufferable, and the most influential among them was future Poglavnik/”Leader” Ante Pavelić, who emigrated & founded a revolutionary terrorist organization ustaše (ca. 200-300 people).

* after the collapse of Yugoslavia in the April war 1941, situation in Croatia & Bosnia and Herzegovina was something like a vacuum. No Croatian politician wanted to become the head of state patronized by Nazi German authorities, but at the same time there was a sense of jubilation: Croats got independent (in theory) country, after decades of Serbian oppression. In this vacuum, Pavelić was installed by Hitler and Mussolini as a kind of puppet. In this country, ca. 50-60% were Croats & more than 30% were Serbs (the rest were Bosnian Muslims, considered to be Croats).

* Pavelić assumed power on April the 10th 1941. But even a week before that, Serb paramilitaries had started killing Croats & some 200-400 people were killed in the interregnum. After he had been installed, Pavelić actually dissolved parliament & established a dictatorship; Croatia was crippled & many vital areas, especially in Dalmatia, were given to Mussolini’s Italy. Also, he introduced racial laws for Jews & started to persecute Serbs- both as a revenge for their participation in royalist Yugoslavia period terror & their atrocities during interregnum. In next few months perhaps 5-20,000 Serbs were killed by ustaše in various areas of NDH/Independent State of Croatia.

Basically, it was a terrorist regime & most Croats disapproved of it, but were expecting to get rid of ustaše in some future & retain statehood under democratic circumstances. So, Croats wanted a truly independent country.

* Serbs, being persecuted (along with Jews & Gypsies) rebelled on a massive scale in the last quarter of 1941 & many areas of NDH had become virtually defunct. This resulted in further Pavelić’s dependence to Hitler. On the other hand, communist partisans, led by a Croat, Josip Broz Tito, after their defeat in Serbia fled with remnants of their army to the NDH territory. There, they found refuge among Serbs, while many of them defected to royalist Četniks led by Serbian colonel Mihailović. Četniks had killed, during 1941, ca. 12-15,000 Muslim & Croat civilians, mostly in the eastern Bosnia regions.

From 1941-1945 there was a civil war in all of Yugoslavia, with various factions fighting for different aims. In Croatia, more Croats had been coming to partisans, especially after 1943 (fall of Italy) & thus partisans became a respectable force. For instance, Croatia had 5 partisan corpses (4 of them with clear Croatian majority), while Slovenia had 2, Bosnia & Herzegovina 2, Serbia proper 2 etc.

* in may 1945, war was over & partisans had won. But, in 2- 6 weeks after the end of war, they committed mass atrocities, killing ca. 80,000-130,000 Croatian soldiers & civilians, perhaps 10,000 Serbian Četniks & up to 4,000 Slovenian white guards.

Modern unbiased historical investigations have dispelled many myths, especially those re number of victims in Yugoslavia & NDH in particular. In sum, in all of Yugoslavia, ca. 500,000 Serbs had died unnatural deaths & this included some 300,000 Serbs in NDH. Of these, perhaps over 100,000 had been killed by ustaše, while others died of typhoid, were killed by Germans, Četniks etc. Among Croats, ca. 200- 250,000 died of unnatural causes, virtually all of them in NDH on various sides. Percentage-wise, the biggest losses were among Bosnian Muslims, over 80,000.

https://www.hercegbosna.org/STARO/engleski/download.html

For instance:

https://www.hercegbosna.org/STARO/download-eng/Zerjavic_manipulations.pdf

Vladimir Zerjavic- YUGOSLAVIA-MANIPULATIONS -WITH THE NUMBER OF SECOND WORLD WAR VICTIMS

https://www.hercegbosna.org/STARO/download-eng/Greater_Serbia.pdf

GREATER SERBIA: from Ideology to Aggression,

https://www.hercegbosna.org/STARO/download-eng/SE_Europe.pdf

An International Symposium: SOUTHEASTERN EUROPE 1918-1995

http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=D46A71C24EB2DFA356DF7B7DFF095E5F

War and Revolution in Yugoslavia, 1941-1945: Occupation and Collaboration – Jozo Tomasevich

http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=BC54C7CC4AD01FA7B4056FF06D130363

The National Question in Yugoslavia: Origins, History, Politics – Ivo Banac

Bottom line is that the whole existing Jewish Holocaust narrative is not supported by the evidence. And any competent detective would spot the inconsistencies and contrary evidence in the overall narrative and conclude that either the witness is fabricating and embellishing what actually happened, or very simply is lying.

That’s not the same thing as saying no Jews were killed in Europe, or that I’d want to be Jewish and in Europe in WWII. (Hell, I wouldn’t have wanted to be anywhere in Europe during WWII period!) Rather, it’s very clear that everybody was killing everybody else in those places and at that time based on ethnicity, nationality, politics, being on the losing side or what have you, including plain old greed, and that nobodies’ hands were clean. Warfare will do that.

That, and the subsequent coverups, denials and spinmeistering over the years by all actors concerning massacres and reprisals, large scale thefts, organized starvations and ethnic cleansing are more over embarrassment and concerns about reputations than anything else. Likewise, the claiming of this, that or the other mass grave as your own is just as much about economic advantage and fortune seeking as it is about validation.

Enough! It was 80 odd years ago. Learn about what happened, all that happened and why, and to all peoples who were present, without favour given to an influential (for now) few. Resolve that it was monstrous for all, and resolve that it ought not to happen again. And then move on.

Just a thought.

VicB3

This sort of opinion is as childishly chauvinistic now as it was in 1850, 1920, 1939 and 1990. Did you know that Eastern Germany has been only given to the Poland for temporary administration by the Soviets? Notwithstanding the weird actions of the people in power in the FRG, Poland’s borders are defined by international law by the provisions of the Treaty of Versailles to which Poland was a signatory party.

Nice deflection, troll. People no longer believe the Red Cross account of 430k.

” The normal Russians/Crimeans that I know that are jews are way cool folks – they even have family is Israel but no big ego. Just normal Russians.”

Nonsense. Jews are not Russians, period. Different ethnic group, different loyalties. Given a brouhaha, you’ll see which group they side with.

Bottom line is that the whole existing Jewish Holocaust narrative is not supported by the evidence. And any competent detective would spot the inconsistencies and contrary evidence in the overall narrative and conclude that either the witness is fabricating and embellishing what actually happened, or very simply is lying.

This is stupid. It is very easy to calculate upper & lower limits of losses of various European peoples during WW2, just by feeding the computer with pre-war & post-war census data and taking into account border changes.

True, some figures overlap & there is a significant standard deviation for some numbers. But, generally, overall picture is rather well established.

“Grow up. You are not in the court.”

Nonsense, low IQ person. The burden of proof is on the person making the existential claim, not on the person questioning it. I suggest opening a basic critical thinking book at some point in your life.

Fact is that the evidence for the deliberate murder of 6,000,000 Jews is almost entirely missing, apart from ‘confessions’ obtained under torture and the claims of self-interested parties who stand something to gain.

Add to that any number of oddities.

– Official reports from the Red Army indicating that the area around Treblinka was pastoral and undisturbed, contrasting with eyewitness accounts (by Jews) of skulls being strewn everywhere.
– Red Cross records mentioning nothing of a mass murder campaign costing millions of lives.
– Putin’s comments that the Soviets transferred millions of Jews out of Poland
– The number of compensation claims registered with the German government reaching the 4 million mark, when the Nazis estimated the total number of Jews in Nazi occupied territory was smaller than this.
– The physical impossibility of outdoor cremation of millions of people using barbeques made from train rails and stacks of wood (which magically worked, even in the snow and rain).
– The lack of cross examination at the Nuremburg tribunal.

It smells mightily of a Jewish fantasy enabling them to guilt trip the Germans, cover up British war crimes, and justify the theft of Arab land.

Obviously the holocaust must be fake or there wouldn’t be laws against researching it, or disputing different aspects of it. Historical events that happened have no laws forbidding questioning or debating them. We can argue over how many died at Stalingrad, or in Hiroshima. We can question the number who starved in the Potato Famine, or from Smallpox in American Indian tribes. But one so-called “historical” event must never be questioned? Ridiculous. The fact that laws force one to believe in it, makes me doubt it completely.

Jews are missing only in the Holocaust deniers’ minds.

Jews historically have had no homeland and thus feel no attachment or sentimental value to the lands upon which they live. It is therefore not that hard to speculate that once news of the evil Nazis approaching reached them that they packed up and moved further east or west to avoid getting mixed up in the actual fighting.

We see this mentality at full effect even today when millions of whites and blacks are sent around the world to kill, maim and occupy foreign nations while the jews who profit from it all stay at home in their million dollar mansions and closed off ghettos demanding to be given the best of the special treatment for their eternal victimhood.

Lack of evidence is not evidence of abscence-but is rather objective evidence of the non-existence of such a claim or cause of which one has been supportive or others forced to accept as truth.

Grow up. You are not in the court. You are not even in the court of public opinion. You are among the Holocaust denial retards. You are one of them actually.

Poor little utu – is he a Jew terrorist – or one of the feeble-minded gentiles, who falls for the Stockholm Syndrome Jew victim “six-million” lie. He is clearly on the wrong side of history.

As is abundantly clear from this article and its comments – many if not most of central Europe’s ethnic peoples experienced group murder. 55,000,000 people died during WWII. Jews where just one tribe of many.

Instead of forgiving and healing all – the Jews have grabbed all the sick “victimhood glory” for themselves and used it as a cudgel to do even more killing in the Middle East.

Maintaining the “six-million” lie has cost America its cohesion and Western idealism – we are divided today into identity groups warring with each other — all to maintain terroristic Jew political control, aimed at sustaining the “six-million” lie. Anyone who dares to disagree with the Jew lie – is terrorized and ostracized from society.

So what is it for little utu – Jew terrorist or fool?

A fool can intellectually grow – a morally poor Jew who supports “the lie” is hopeless.

Judging by the aggressive theft of Ukraine farmland for pennies on the dollar by Chabad, instrumentalized by Nuland’s lackeys at the Dept of State, and the consequent dispossession of Ukrainian farm people à la Palestinians in Palestine, my guess is that Israel intends to use the Ukraine as the “breadbasket” of the JWO in Europe, just as a de-industrialized United States, with its white population exterminated, will become the JWOs breadbasket in the Western Hemisphere.

Where did they go? They were never there in the first place. Part of the puzzle can be resolved here:

https://www.bjpa.org/content/upload/bjpa/dell/DellaPergola%20Some%20Fundamentals.pdf

His aggregate numbers (in Table 2 on p. 10) are consistent with the numbers from the Jewish Virtual Library. But what’s curious are the numbers for Eastern Europe (i.e. Imperial Russia/Soviet Union and Poland primarily) The American population exploded between 1880 and 1939. That’s the well-known turn-of-the century influx. It’s safe to assume that about 5M of the American number was due to immigration (applying a reasonable 0.5% growth rate to the 1880 population), and that it was mainly from Eastern Europe. That would mean that the stock of Eastern European Jews grew from 5.7M in 1880 to about 8.2M+5M = 13.2M in 1939, an annualized growth rate of 1.4%. This is simply not believable, given the chaos afflicting Eastern Europe during this time period. If we apply the 0.9% growth rate claimed for world Jewish inter-war population by the JVL (probably high but not absurdly so) to the 5.7M Eastern European stock, and subtract off the 5M that emigrated to America, we get an Eastern European Jewish population in 1939 of around 4.7M, which is at least 3.5M less than commonly claimed. (It was probably even less than 4.7M, given emigration to Palestine.) World Jewish population in 1939 was probably around 16.7M-3.5M = 13.2M, not 16.7M, implying Jewish losses during the war of around 2.2M. This number is consistent with German documentation re. the AR camps, Auschwitz, and the EG shootings, as well as Red Cross documentation about the Western camps. It’s highly likely that both the Soviet and Polish 1939 numbers were exaggerated by at least 1M each. The numbers for the eastern part of the old Austro-Hungarian empire should also be viewed skeptically. (The 1931 Polish census claiming over 3M Jews is well-known, but there was a 1921 census claiming 2M Jews; there is no way the Polish Jewish population grew at a 4% annualized rate in that decade.)

Hitting the holohoax (oops I mean “holocaust™”) head-on doesn’t work because of the jew-controlled media which has declared “holocaustianity™” to be the new worldwide “state religion” from which no dissension from its “orthodoxy” is permitted.
The only way to counter “holocaustianity™” is to point out the scientific and engineering impossibility of every “holocaust™” claim.
Let’s look at a number of claims that have been made and have been ingrained in “holocaust™” orthodoxy:
— using “bug spray” (Zyklon B) as an execution agent (ha ha)
—“gas chambers” with ordinary wooden doors, not gas-tight doors
—“gas chambers” with no means to ventilate the chambers after “operation”
—“gas chamber” chimney not connected to anything
—“blood spurting out of the ground” for weeks and months
—“crematoria stacks with visible flames” (not possible) crematoria burn clean
—“thousands of bodies cremated per day” (not possible)
—“multiple bodies” in one “muffle” to “speed up” operations
—“lampshades, soap and shrunken heads”, oh my
—“the ability to tell when jews are being cremated by the smell or color of smoke”
—“claimed burial grounds not being permitted to be disturbed” per jewish “law”
NONE of these claims are possible or valid and can be easily debunked using sound scientific and engineering principles.
I have been thrown out (asked to leave) those “jewish freak shows” called “holocaust™”museums for merely attempting to point out these facts.

Once again, proof that Jews are inflammable!

Bodies decay fast and animals pick them off.

Look at nature. So many creatures but vanish without a trace. Animals come and eat them. Often, animals even grind and eat the bones.

Hyenas can crack elephant bones with their jaws.

It’s been said the Great Leap killed tens of millions of Chinese. Them bodies disappeared real fast.

And many Civil War dead bodies and WWI dead bodies in the trenches just rotted in the fields.

Every year, tons of cows and pigs are killed. They are disposed of without a trace.

It smells mightily of a Jewish fantasy enabling them to guilt trip the Germans, cover up British war crimes, and justify the theft of Arab land.

Say jbwilson24 — did you kill any Jews — I didn’t!

Hmm — then why are we being held guilty? 98% of everybody alive today was not even living during the war. Yet, the Jews act like we are ALL guilty for WWII.

Using a vile false guilt trip, the Jews have seized power over the West.

We are coming to understand this ploy – human nature does not like lies – it rebels.

p.s. Jew use of the Stockholm Syndrome, rules the West. (terror first – claim victimization second)

And what about that yuletide girl? What she was a dogs pipi.

Why do you write “Polish historical interpretations” knowing that after WWII this so called ‘Polish’ regime was infested by (appointed) Stalin Jews and few Polish commies with suspicious past? *

*During Poland’s partition many Jews bought for cents on dollar or acquired (for snitching) names, estates and noble titles of Polish patriots shipped to Siberia.

Jan 30, 2016 Operation Reinhard: The Murder of Polish Jewry

How did the horror of the Nazi death camps evolve? Auschwitz didn’t just sprout from the ground one day. There was an “evolution” of the murder machinery, and a cast of diabolical characters most people have never heard of.

Feb 4, 2017 The rise of Hitler 1919-1929: revision for IGCSE & GCSE History exams

This revision podcast is relevant to both GCSE and IGCSE History students studying Nazi Germany.

But than all Hitler was stupid, because he did not figure out that eventually will come to that.
All Germans were so stupid that they did not know that number of roads in Ukraine and Russia that in case of rain did not change to mud holes could be counted on fingers.
And even those were no match of via Apia of ancient Rome.

Impressive your information about the origin of Stettin and Breslau. But as far as I can see through a fast look at wikipedia, what you say seems to be at least a bis misleading. The history seems to be quite complicated with really lot of changes. They say about Breslau that the “Wandalenstamm der Silinger” (a German tribe) settled there between the 4 and 5 Century and Slavs came about 1 or 2 centuries later. Much later there was a Polish domination. Breslau was destroyed by the Mongols in 1241 and after that rebuilt by German settlers. In 1261 Breslau received the right of cityship (? Stadtrecht) by the German city of Magdeburg. The history of Stettin is even more complicated, but wikipedia says that it was founded by the fusion of German and Polish settlements (“Die Stadt Stettin entstand aus einer pomoranischen und zwei benachbarten deutschen Siedlungen” = The city Stettin has originated from a pomoranian and two neighbour German settlements).

The sad thing is that the Final Solution to the Jewish problem has not yet been achieved.

I mean the problem of the presence of non-Jews in the world, a major problem for the Jews. Not finally solved yet, but getting close.

There have been some great achievements since earliest times. One was Moses’s great success in tricking the stupid Midianites a number of times before finally exterminating them, as recounted between Exodus Ch. 2 and the end of Numbers. Another was Joshua bar Nun’s fabulous achievement exterminating most of the Canaanites. For the time, the greatest achievement bar none!

But the great achievement of the Jewish Dark Age of 200–400 AD, the killing of 6 million Jews by the Jews, the 6 million Hellenistic Jews by the Talmudic Jews, outshines everything to date. Done at a time when the world population was tiny!

That must be done, the killing of non-Talmudic Jews must be done, as Maimonides wrote a few centuries later. But the best subsequent achievement seems to have been the killing of about a million non-Talmudic Jews in Iberia, greater Spain. Maybe fewer. Many escaped the peninsula. Many Karaites survived. Or some did, count unclear.

So far, at least till 1948, and since the Cyrene massacres of the 2nd century, stopped by the Romans, they have not had the power to kill non-Jews in any large numbers, could only encourage wars among them. And undermine their society with their lobbying skills and organized financing. But they are immensely powerful today in America and Europe. The Final Solution may be close.

Serbian lies are only matched by coatian lies (jews/muslims lies are out of competition simple because they belive they can say anything to non-jew/non-muslim and do a right thing).
Serbian lies can’t change fact that every single sentence from Bardon post is one big fat lie.
Hints: census from 1931 counted people by religion(ortodox, catolics, muslims,…), census from 1948 counted serbs, croats, slovenians, montenegrins, macedonians and ‘minorities’. Muslims are counted as serbian or croatians. He can’t even say those numbers for current croatian territory (hint: about 90k serbs less than ortodox and 300k croats more than catolics,despite 200k croats killed or expelled by comunists)
Counting persons with serious mental problems with zero influence as ‘serbian ideologues’ is just fun.

said:
“What kind of “death camps” have hospitals for internees? What kind of “death camps” have scrip for prisoners to spend at a canteen? What kind of “death camps” have orchestras and theaters for internees? Why would “death camps” record marriages and births? The Olympic size swimming pools and soccer fields for internees at “death camps””

– Here’s more info. on the big one in the “holocaust”narrative, so called “death camp / extermination camp” Auschwitz

This is stupid. It is very easy to calculate upper & lower limits of losses of various European peoples during WW2, just by feeding the computer with pre-war & post-war census data and taking into account border changes.

But it is precisely the border changes for those countries and population movements occurred within those areas that makes it difficult if not impossible to determine with any accuracy what population changes within the area those borders include at different times mean. It is, obvious, is ity not, that the “Poland” of 1939 is not the “Poland” of 1946, is it not? And that it’s ridiculous to draw any DEFINITIVE conclusion based on the ethnic group distribution included within the boundaries of those “countries” between those periods, especially when Russians moved substsantial numbers out of the area they occupied from 1939 to 1941, and then Germans were moved out of areas that became Polich after WWII, etc., etc. and also moved people into and out of those areas when no one really knows the NUMBERS INVOLVED.

It’s years ago since I lookeed at the numbers Hillsberg cited, but I remenber dismissing them at the time because they look conjectural at best.

There are two ancient Slavic tribes Czechs and Moravian s. Capital of Czechs is Praha (Prague)
Capitol of Moravian s is Brno. Slovaks at one time were part of Great Moravian empire.
Morava is east of Czechia, (As is its capital Brno, and not south as you claim.)
Slovakia is East of Moravia.
Morava is river and the tribe was named after river. River Morava joins Danjub
at Slovakia.

said:
“I just don’t know where to start. Whole “article” is such a BS. OK, let’s start from beginning then”

– Let’s start with you actually reading the article.

– Then show us the millions upon millions of human remains that are said by those like you to be in specific, known locations.

– After that, tell us how the absurd ‘Nazi gas chambers’ supposedly worked.

– Your cited sources give no proof.

It’s curious that people like yourself actually want the alleged millions to be dead.
You should be happy to hear that millions of your brethren were not murdered.

“In the case of this latest and largest mass grave (2008), no clothing, eye glasses or gold teeth were found. It thus appears that they were completely stripped before they were killed.” My German mother and her family began fleeing west in the last months of the war. They lived in the German city Brieg (now called Brzeg under Polish rule). It’s close to the bigger city Breslau (now called Wroclaw under Polish rule). She was captured near Pilsen (known as Plzen under Czech rule). The Red Army arrived. My mother was part of a group of women being held and the women were forced to strip naked and they were humiliated. This is what my crying mother told me roughly about 40 years ago. She was not raped. She’s gone now and despite this sad story was an upbeat and generally happy person. The Americans were also there. I believe they took the area first and then withdrew and turned the area over to the Russians and Czechs. My mother was able to escape and eventually settled in Bavaria for several years before moving to the USA. If there are numerous cases of victims being stripped, I wonder if this could be tied to a particular army or nationality. Or was it was done by more than one army or nationality?

None of these examples you stated are a mandatory religion.

The big 6 has replaced the sun as the center of the universe.

Most people on this planet want the sun back as the center of the universe.

Take that big 6 wall down.

Let the sun shine again on this planet.

Jewish Lightning Got All 6 Million – Case Closed

To my very point. You won’t follow the suggestion I made. Much easier to deal in abstractions than reality, isn’t it?

I agree. From my reading the transfers of population for reasons of ethnicity, colonisation (eg of the Wartheland), slave labour, not to mention the theft of ‘aryan’ children from Poles made for total confusion at the end of the war. The stories of witnesses always mention fellow victims from all parts of Europe and people travelling in all directions.
Re the numbers I can only repeat the wise quip of Christopher Isherwood in an argument about the number of victims; he said to his opponent: ‘What are you? In real estate?”

Well done, Carolyn.

Why not just say Mahatma Austrian Hitler left no victims, including 20s-30s-40s Germans (400,000 to 600,000 by most accounts, murdered by the NSDAP) and espouse, more important, Germans were the only victims in WW2? Go for it!

The NSDAP brought God to Austria, Sudetenland, Czechoslovakia, Memel, Denmark. Norway, Luxembourg, Belgium, France, Netherlands, Greece, Yugoslavia, Crete, North Africa, USSR, etc.? Hitler was quite the evangelist. God (in that hymnal) is named Adolf. A deity without territorial aspirations but nonetheless great coincidental appetite and digestive ability. And with a post-war score to settle with German Churches.

“I go the way that Providence dictates with the assurance of a sleepwalker” (“Ich gehe mit traumwandlerischer Sicherheit den Weg, den mich die Vorsehung gehen heißt”) -Adolf Hitler 15 Mar 1936 Munich

He “sleepwalked” Germany into catastrophic World War, then attacked an ally in what became a winter campaign 1941-42 lacking winter uniforms and operational gear. Incompetence paramount. Nothing to do with Jews, though by all counts – as in Poland –many were murdered (sorry Carolyn).

“The war against Russia is an important chapter in the struggle for existence of the German nation. It is the old battle of the Germanic against the Slav peoples, of the defense of European culture against Moscovite-asiatic inundation, and the repulse of Jewish Bolshevism. The objective of this battle must be the destruction of present-day Russia and it must therefore be conducted with unprecedented severity. Every military action must be guided in planning and execution by an iron will to exterminate the enemy mercilessly and totally. In particular, no adherents of present Russian-Bloshevik system are to be spared.”
– Generaloberst Erich Hoepner, Orders to 4th Panzer Group Commanders in advance of Barbarossa 2 May 1941 [Burleigh ‘The Third Reich’ p. 521]

A year later at Stalingrad 42-43, same problems, Hitler doubled-down plus some.

“The Führer commands that on entering the city the entire male population should be eliminated since Stalingrad, with its convinced Communist population of one million, is particularly dangerous.”
– Adolf Hitler to Sixth Army 2 Sep 1942 [Beevor ‘The Second World War’ p.356]

Genocide? There you have cold hard fact.

There’s more Carolyn. It’s against Germans! 9 Nov 1942 Hitler orders 150,000 artillery and transport horses in Sixth Army be sent several hundred kilometers to the rear, ostensibly to save transporting fodder to the front. It deprives all unmotorized (75% of 6th Army forces) divisions of mobility. Ten days later Soviets launch “Operation Uranus’, a ‘Kesselschalcht’ encirclement worthy of Bismarck and von Moltke.

By 23 Nov 1942 the Sixth Army is cut-off in pocket, destined to starve and freeze as Hitler orders “Sixth Army stand firm in spite of temporary encirclement”. His solution to the crisis is to designate the Sixth Army “Fortress Stalingrad” and order (24 Nov) holding the front “whatever the circumstances”. No clarity on food, munitions, medical care or strategic relief. None comes.

Germans knew better.

“I am beyond caring. Two of my brothers were sacrificed in Stalingrad and it was quite useless. And here we have the same.”
–Soldat to SanUff [Senior Medical Officer] Walter Klein, Kampfgruppe Heintz, Field Dressing Station near St-Lô, Normandie 26 Jul 1944 [Beevor ‘D-Day’ p.353]

That’s the legacy you (Ron and Carolyn) embrace? Good luck!

Dumb (my advice- don’t mess with someone who knows what he’s talking about. You’ll turn out to be a laughing stock ).

In 1931 census people were counted by religion & language. The South Slavic “language” was a bizarre official combination of the Slovene, Croat & Serbian (no one then, except Croatian linguist Stjepan Ivšić, had recognized Macedonian language). Other languages like Hungarian, German, Italian, Slovak, Czech, Albanian… were clearly the languages of those peoples. So, one could clearly distinguish between Croats, Serbs, Bosnian Muslims .. by simply looking at their religion & mother tongue (in that case, weird “Sloveno-Croato-Serbian”).

During the Communist census in 1948, people just said what they were, nationally. Catholics- if not Slovene speaking- were Croats; Orthodox were either Serbs, Montenegrins or Macedonians (there were preserved censuses from 1931, so one could monitor county fluctuations of population); BH Muslims were mostly “Yugoslavs undetermined” (some of them said they were either Croats or Serbs, due to political pressures, but in next 2-3 decades were simply written out of this census).

Also, there were tiny minorities of Catholic Serbs (ca. 8,800) and Orthodox Croats (9,300)- but they don’t mean anything, in comparison with these millions.

So, if you try to argue, rather use convincing arguments than a hysterical blather.

Virtually all modern works on victimology had taken into account borders shifts so that victims (or potential victims) couldn’t be counted twice (or thrice). It is reflected even in such a wishy-washy source as Wikipedia.

I read your link again,

I won’t be bothering a third time,

And the evidence substantiating their degree of accuracy is what?

We are in the court of History.
In the court of History the truth is always late, but always arrives.

I’d doubt it. The biggest fraud about socialism was the promotion of Marxism (communism) as being socialism. I’m not saying Marx didn’t have followers, but the majority of his contemporaries rejected his state owns all views as being totalitarian. Communism is the obverse side of the coin of finance capitalism. Both seek to concentrate wealth into the hands of a few – relatively speaking.

Clifford Douglas, who invented the Social Credit movement, worked closely with the Guild Socialists in Britain. While ultimately rejecting their views, he recognized that they weren’t interested in state ownership, were not opposed to competition, but were opposed to finance controlling production and trade. By the way, Douglas was opposed to finance capitalism as well.

I repeat: your local co-op is socialist. Every member has an equal say through the single share allowed to be purchased; the board of directors is elected by the membership; the profits shared are based on your participation level; and it competes with privately owned businesses, including corporations.

Here is an excerpt (one of MANY) from the Jewish press showing that Jewish American groups have long tried to stop the U.S. Congress from recognizing the genocide committed against Christian Armenians by Turkey:

Every year on April 24, the day that Armenians commemorate the killings, a resolution calling for the use of the controversial term is proposed in Congress and then beaten back. Some Jewish groups claim credit for ensuring that such a resolution never passes.

Jewish advocacy groups, including the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, B’nai Brith and American Jewish Committee “have been working with the Turks on this issue” for more than 15 years, said Yola Habif Johnston, director for foundations and community outreach at Jinsa. “The Jewish lobby has quite actively supported Turkey in their efforts to prevent the so-called Armenian genocide resolution from passing,” she said.

Showdown Set in ‘Genocide’ Debate
Rebecca Spence, The Jewish Daily Forward
Sept. 2, 2006

I think for you, any system you happen to like is socialist, and any system you don’t like is non-socialist.

1. STETTIN is GERMANIZED name for Polish name SZCZECIN, not the other way around.
2. Same story with Wroclaw (for short period of time known as Breslau).

What’s your point?
New York was New Amsterdam before the British took over. Strasbourg was Strasburg before Louis XIV annexed Alsace and Lorraine. Istanbul was Constantinople before the Muslims decided to change the name. Novgorod was an East Norse settlement. At one time, the Baltic was a “Swedish lake” and Poland was occupied by the Swedes with a Swedish king sitting in Poland. In the mists of time, Jerusalem was Uru-shalem before the chosenites arrived from Yemen.
Borders and place names have changed through out the recorded history of mankind. Poland now claims famous Germans were Polish. Nikolaus Kopernikus, the famous German astronomer, is now called Mikolaj Kopernik. He lived in Thorn (now Torun’), never spoke a word of Polish, and published his works in Latin.

Here’s a contemporary non German view of the situation in Poland at the start of the war:
https://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/polandinside/pfi00.html

The Poles were happy to be Chamberlain’s dupes in starting a war with Germany, and ramped it up with the ethnic cleansing of Germans in the German territories it occupied after the November 11, 1918 Armistice was signed. When war starts, no ones hands are clean, but the Poles, like the chosenites continue to play the victim.

For those that have looked at the movement of people from the late 20s to 1939, it would not stand up to a 10 minute audit. It is obvious to me, and written by H.G. Wells in his book “The Shape of Things to Come” that the Dazig corridor was built to start the war as Polish and Soviet troops, and it is well documented, were killing ethnic Germans since 1938. This was considered a brilliant move by Wells of the Wilson Administration who wiped out 60-70 million, no only due to war but the fact that it was the US out of Ft. Riley which is documented in the Wichita Observer to be the first place that ever ha this flu of which almost 10% died.

It is known that the US created the Soviet Union (Bolsheviks through NYC with Schiff, Baruch, Warburg, Kuhn, Loeb, Harriman and others) and also set up through the War Industries Board, by a Jewish Marrano named Samuel Bush to load the Lusitania up with “small” munitions of which Cunard was warned as were documents not to go on the ship as the US had been supplying the filth ridden UK with weapons but was all but defeated and Germany offered a peace plan that was beneficial to all. The Balfour Declaration, (Read “History of Zionism 1600-1918” by Nahum Sokolow and you will find in the forward that Arthur Balfour was also a Marrano which is pointed out specifically), was enough for the monied interests of the US to put America into war by lies. Benjamin Freedman’s speech at the Willard hotel sums it up well.

The US, USSR, UK and China are all tied together and all are oligarch with a fraudulent opposition as one can figure out when reading “Red Symphony” of Rothschild. All nations are nothing more than corporations that have gone into receivership and are owned as assets just as recently stated by the central banks and the monetization of all creation. Those that have no reverence for all living things and respect for life or planet except for their love of money that their contempt for creation represents is now off the charts as all institutions are corrupt.

Bias of Priene – all men are wicked and most are evil. That was a statement of one of the greats, of the 7 sages and has now come to a point where all life may disappear in a few years through poisoning every aspect of life and the list is long, geoengineering, medicine/vaccine/pharmaceuticals, big ag, idiocy in programming – (listen to JFK condemn amusement and the need for a well informed society), no limits of committing atrocities to life itself as the web of life is hanging by a thread. Education, think tanks, NGOs, government leaders…they all are evil and are backed up by a putrid judicial system.

You are funny! And I do not need to take a look at the map. You do!

If you make a right angle triangle from Usti nad labem and Brno you do find out you will find out that distance from Usti to Brno is twice as long eastward than southward.
So you are in error.

And the second error. After Munich there was no more Czechoslovakia.
Slovakia did become independent.

Strange story. Sorry to hear of your mother’s humiliation but what you write makes no sense to me. What was your mother doing in Plzen at the end of the war? Captured by whom? There was no Red army in Plzen and American troops left in November 1945. If your mother was supposedly fleeing west then she would have landed in Dresden where most refugees from Wroclaw went but not in Plzen. Caroline Yeager and you have obvious deficiencies in geography, which is a strong indications that most of the stories, ventilated here, are simply made up.

Kopernik did not have a even a drop of German blood in him. And he was not an astronomer.
He was a polish monk. He did study the solar system as a hobby.
He was first who did claim that all planets rotate around the Sun.
Galileo did only confirm the Koperniks theory only one hundred years after .
Galileo did have already a telescope. Kopernik did not!

If “60 myriad on 60 myriad” (your first link) is 600,000 squared, that is not a small number.

Thanks.

You’re suggesting readings of poetry & opera while accusing Curmudgeon of abstraction?

Let’s play, ‘Spot the Jew’!

Several attempts have been made to excavate the premises of post-war POW camps in western Germany, including efforts by the owners of the property in question. The German government consistently intervenes to prevent any/all such efforts.

Your supposition (implicitly stated as fact) that burial sites for German POWs have not been excavated is wrong. After you have secured the information pertaining thereto, you should retract your statement.

Auschwitz was a Polish military barracks complex before the Germans took it over in 1939, converting it to house Russian POWs in 1941. Shortly thereafter, it became (along with nearby Birkenau and Monowitz) the housing part of a huge industrial complex staffed not only by concentration-camp inmates but by “free” and semi-free (forced-labor) workers from all over German-controlled Europe.
It never had a gas chamber and it never served any German genocidal program, because there never was one of these, either.
Operation Reinhardt was a (well-documented) program to collect, inventory, and convey to the Reichsbank such jewelry, money, antiques and (dental) gold as was collected from permanent (e.g., Jews) inmates, many dead (of disease, exposure, accident, malnutrition) and others alive. It was designed and carried out by Fritz Reinhardt, a senior official in the German treasury.
See the Web site I (click on my name) link to.

I’am always surprised that there are still “Holocaust” believers out there.

Any honest person would argue that a historical event, which needs legal protection up to the point that any deviation from the official narrative gets you in jail in nearly all Western countries (5 years in Germany) is at least highly suspicious, more probably completely fake.

And any decent person would refuse to accept anything related to the “holocaust” narrative as long as he is blackmailed by “denial” laws.

Glad you brought that up:
Nikolaus Kopernikus, whose uncle was the German bishop of Ermland, spoke not a word of Polish, but German exclusively, and he had contempt for the Poles with whom he had to deal on occasion as laborers. While being a student in Italy, he sought the company of German fellow students. He became “”””Polish”””” after the Polish king had, in typical Pole fashion, gone on another raid into someone else’s land, i.e., the Ordensland, and occupied the town of Frauenburg, the residence of Kopernikus.
Remember how the Poles wanted to get rid of the Germans they had incorporated into thhe new Poland after 1919. They were “foreign elements” and “enemies of the Polish state”, just like Kopernikus.
I remember an article I read a few years ago about Breslau; a visitor noticed that plaques were affixed to some houses, pointing them out as the birth- or work places of people of note, who were German by blood and by nationality, but had been turned into Poles on these plaques, the Polonization of the German names included. The famous German fluorine chemist Otto Ruff is also buried in Breslau, died there in 1939 a short time after entering retirement.
I can’t think of many Poles who have accomplishments of note; to mind come Frederic Chopin, Marie Curie, Kasimir Funk and Kasimir Fajans (the latter two were chemists); a writer Potocki who wrote a nice 18th-century adventure novel. Then there is the writer J.Conrad – all people, I note, who had left the Polish environment behind to live elsewhere and achieve some fame.

> “And the second error. After Munich there was no more Czechoslovakia. Slovakia did become independent.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Czechoslovak_Republic

That is what was told to me by my mother as best I remember it. Given a choice between believing my mother, who was there, and a commenter on the internet (who probably wasn’t even born then), I’ll take may mother’s word. She had no reason to lie She never got any money from a foreign government, nor sympathy in a TV documentary or anywhere else. Neither did any of the other millions of German refugees, including the 3 million that had everything stolen from them by the Czechs before being brutally expelled from the lands they had lived on for many centuries. Those refugees did receive many impudent and snide remarks like yours though.

A look at a map would show that what my mother said makes perfect sense. I do not know what month this occurred but Czechoslovakia (a Warsaw Pact member, including Pilsen) came under Soviet authority at some point, certainly before 1968 when Soviet tanks crushed a Czech rebellion in Prague. .

Thank you for your kind words Carolyn. I think my mom would have appreciated them also.

See comment number 131. It’s in response to your comment number 120.

I should be surprised that Carolyn Yeager fails to mention the following, except for the fact that everyone fails to mention it – and that is that there is an organization that has a staff of 500+, access to all the data, that no one else has, and that has been researching the fate of the Jews since before the end of the war …. it’s known as the International Tracing Service, their website is … https://www.icrc.org/en/document/international-tracing-service-and-icrc
So, if you have a question about missing Jews you might think you could ask them, however, it would do you no good as they will not answer.

A lesson in historical brainwashing –
OLD NEWSPAPERS :

Probably you are only confused.
Kepler was German.
And Tycho DE Brahe was Hollandian.

Sorry, 59% English and 41% Irish/Scottish according to Ancestry.com. And New Zealander by nationality.
Why don’t you follow the suggestion, or at least read their Wikipedia pages?

A coping Jewish individual is someone who puts on an “Anglo-Saxon” mask and promotes Holocaust denial theory online. Because if you’re Jewish and you believe that Jews “always win”, the fact that Jews were largely exterminated in Europe is extremely inconvenient.

– The contortions that Zionist like yourself go through in order dodge the lack of alleged human remains that Zionists say exist, and that they know exactly where they are, is laughable.

The “Holocau$t Industry” in court:
‘Please your honor, there really are remains of millions upon millions buried in huge mass graves, we know where the mass graves are, but, but, well, umm, we can’t show the court the human remains. You must trust us, we’re Zionists.’

– And there is the scientific absurdity / impossibility of the alleged ‘Nazi gas chambers’ which you can’t even tell us how they supposedly worked.

– Census data for ‘Jews’ is bogus, problematic any way you look at it.
recommended:
Issues with post-WWII Jewish census figures: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12735

– There’s the problem with the census counting of ‘Jews’ in the first place.
– Vast numbers are atheists, but consider themselves ‘Jews anyway, but not in censuses where the question is on ‘religion’.
– Many don’t want too be counted and are in fact told not to be counted / “forbidden” to be counted.
“To actually count Jews directly is forbidden (Talmud, Yoma 22b), as the prophet says: “And the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which shall neither be measured nor counted.” – http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/896203/jewish/Laws-of-Counting-Jews.htmand

– See more on the bogus numbers of Jews:
https://www.unz.com/?s=forbidden&Action=Search&ptype=all&commentsearch=only&commenter=Wally

Part of your article has a comment Caption (by author) which I assume means you. The caption shows that you think Stettin, Gruenburg and Breslau were part of pre-war Poland which is nonsense.
How can anyone with a basic knowledge of the area think that the capital of Moravia is in Bohemia? Or that it was a majority German-speaking city in the 1930s?
Unfortunately, it appears to me you are out of your depth.

It is a shame you don’t follow the suggestion I made in another reply and instead of misinterpreting history, actually read the poetry and novels, listen to the music and look at the artworks of Nazi victims who graced German culture before the onslaught of the people who were really less-than-human.

I’m sorry but you don’t know basic facts or you just deny it on purpose – like number of polish citizens before the war. In the years 1945–1947 exhumations were carried out, which confirmed the mass murders in that place. Personal details of over 2400 victims have been established.

This is exactly what is said. German people were being slaughtered over a year before the official war. It continued with firebombing every single major city in Germany and ended with the murder of millions of Germans after the war from the Morganthau plan. Rosenvelt is a crypto-Jew, as was the majority of the allies, even though the beginning of the war had a vast number of supporters from all the Germanic civilians that were being spit on, businesses wiped out and others slaughtered. To hell with you and your bullcrap as this is all you can read and see.

The Russians, Ukrainians, all the Eastern Europeans after the war suffered severely and you have no soul. Such are the ways of my former heritage as they have no feeling for anything other than themselves and all else is for their amusement and love of money/gold/silver of which is lost in the Torah’s perversion of much older religions as Hyksos are an abomination and of the devil as people like you are wiping out all life to have your own planet but have broken past the point of no return with insect and microbe population down to 15% or much less and species disappearing faster than at any time in history.

Carolyn has demonstrated (on other threads) a poor grasp of geography and of the ethnic fabric of Eastern Europe and becomes angry if you try to correct her.

The US in 1951 had a 7 day session on the Katyn Massacre and I have the copies from University of Minn, and Michigan. America lied it’s way to continuing a war of which their owners, of which the US went into receivership in 1933 in the Banking Holiday and is reference in the Congressional record of James Traficant and 2 Senators were assassinated, Mr. Long of Louisiana and Mr. McFadden of Pennsylvania of which he began a lawsuit against the illegal Federal Reserve in 1927 of the McFadden Act and then in the Articles of Impeachment was thereafter referred to the Judiciary Committee which has never been finished.

The US always has been a corporation for Jewish investors and always will be until they wish to blow us away, just as they have done for thousands of years, and even to their “own” fellow Samaritans, wiping out their temples in 112-111 by John Hycranus, King of Judah.

I wash my hands of all Abramic faiths which are frauds from the Indus Valley and earlier. They stole all they have and are an abomination along with their fellow liars that kill for thrills and especially for gold and silver of which they have shown they can’t read their own damned text.

Here in the UK there used to be a TV program called TimeTeam. It was a group of Archaeologists who over a weekend would investigate the archaeology of a site for a member of the public. They were always finding skeletons some back to Roman times. They were often in good enough condition to guess what they had died off.
During the London Crossrail project the London Museum was involved in investigating the thousands of skeletons that were unearthed mainly from the time of the Great Fire and the plague (1665-1666) all in excellent condition. When your local crematorium has cremated a body they still have to collect the bones and then pulverise the bones and teeth to give the relatives a cosmetically acceptable set of remains.
If a body is ‘put in the ground’ the flesh rots but the skeleton will last millennia in most soils.
Even Solzhenitsyn’s 200 years together cannot resist getting involved in the mythical Jewish body count.
“if not trustingly, altogether about 34,000; and on September 29 and 30, they were methodically shot at Babi Yar, putting layer upon layers of corpses in a large ravine.Hence there was no need to dig any graves – a giant hecatomb! According to the official German announcement, not questioned later, 33,771 Jews were shot over the course of two days. During the next two years of the Kiev occupation, the Germans continued shootings in their favourite and so convenient ravine. It is believed that the number of the executed – not only Jews – had reached, perhaps, 100,000. ”
Yet somehow the amazing Germans as they were retreating managed to destroy and remove every trace of their infamous massacre down to the last phalanges.
Did not David Irvine tell a story about 5000 Jews who were killed in a forest outside Kiev, and yet no one has managed to find that grave. Most of these things only happened in the imagination of Jews.
Sometimes you just need to do the maths, here in the UK we cremate 375,000 bodies a year in about 300 modern gas fuelled ovens. To go through 6 million would take the UK about 18 years and we would not be cremating our own population who die for those 18 years.

The serbska in bosnia deserved it

After what Vespasian allegedly did, were the Roman first born sons killed by a black fog as in “Ten Commandments”?

No. Islam is very different than judaism at its core. Somedietary rules, etc., are similar. But islam is closest to old catholicism except for the trinity

Vespasian is better known for his famous words ‘Pecunia non olet’. He re-instated the ‘vectigal urinae’, the tax on the distribution of urine from public urinals in Rome’s Cloaca Maxima system, first instituted by Nero. The urine collected from public urinals was sold as an ingredient for several chemical processes. It was used in tanning, wool production, and also by launderers as a source of ammonia to clean and whiten woolen togas. The buyers of the urine paid the tax. When Vespasian’s son Titus complained about the disgusting nature of the tax, his father held up a gold coin and asked whether he felt offended by its smell and when Titus said “No”, Vespasian replied, “Yet it comes from urine” (Atqui ex lotio est). Even today public urinals are known under the name of ‘vespasienne/vespasiano’ in France and Italy.
How many people really know that their names are related with other famous building than the Roman urinals?

If we want a debate about the Holocaust, then it should be a real debate and not a collection of onesided monologues. The arguments of the Holocaust revisionists are seriously debated on this website : holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com, which I stumbled upon some time ago. For a quick course in counter arguments, here is a list of the most common subjects :

Showing your true colors, I see.

From practical point of view cremation of body last from one to two hours.
To crush the bones with bone crashing machine it takes from one to two minutes.
The point here is that Germans were not trying to cover their tracks.
It was a question of efficiency.
Why would Germans bother to take the bones an buried them somewhere.
So looking for bones from concentration camps is an retarded idiocy.
On the other hand I do have a serious doubt that Germans did have capacity to cremate over 6 million bodies.
Through passing of time there is tendency to exaggerate the numbers and so the Jews also exaggerate
The fact still remains that many innocent people including Jews did perish in concentration camps.
But on the other hand there I do not see any evidence that concentration camps were some kind of industrial production lines to kill and dispose of Jews.

In item nr. 7 on that list, called “Auschwitz swimming pool, hospital etc.”, all the examples of facilities in Auschwitz, that according to revisionists belie the fuction of Auschwitz as a death camp, are either debunked or explained. This is relevant because Carolyn Yeager has written a booklet exactly to that effect, with the title Auschwitz : The Underground Guided Tour.

I was only having a little fun.

Kind of terrifying aint it? All the media, news, and information since the 40’s has been a complete ball of crap made up by the people that own all the media….and the world fell for it all hook line and sinker.

My “true colors” are unprejudiced investigation and debate, and that means listening to both sides. It is a rare phenomenon that in a debate one party is 100% right and the other party 100% wrong. But to determine what part in a debate is right or wrong takes an unprejudiced mind. What are your “true colors”?

The ZUSA cannibals’ plan for Holodomor in Syria: https://www.voltairenet.org/article210200.html

The siege of Syria has begun. Economic sanctions have been severely tightened and will be further squeezed in mid-June. Any person or entity that trades with Syria will be harshly penalized by the United States and the European Union.

Such “sanctions” are illegal under international law. Those preventing the supply of medical equipment are guilty of crimes under the Geneva Conventions.

Jihadists in the north and US troops in the south have started setting fire to fields in a coordinated fashion. Syria has filed a complaint with the United Nations Security Council.

Within a few days, imported food became impossible to find and the price of local food soared. The Syrian pound collapsed on the foreign exchange market and is currently trading on the black market at a quarter of its official value.

What a joy for the Jewish State!

(The 1931 Polish census claiming over 3M Jews is well-known, but there was a 1921 census claiming 2M Jews; there is no way the Polish Jewish population grew at a 4% annualized rate in that decade.)

Mighty, take into account the changed borders after the Polish-Russian war. There was about 1.2 M Jews in the area gained by Poland. Most of them in Galicia, which earlier belonged to Austria, was taken by Austria when Poland was divided. After WWI this area was attached to Ukraine, so Ukraine gained about 1M Jews, which it lost to Poland in the war. The problem is Ukrainian census from 1926 with claims that Ukraine had 1.5M Jews in 1926. I think the error is here, they used figures before the Poland-Russia war and in reality there were 0.4M Jews in Ukraine in 1938 before Soviets annexed the same area that Poland had gained 1922. Concerning Poland I made a calculation of how many Poles died. Polish figures seem correct, but about 1M reduction in the population of native Poles can be explained by a smaller birth rate during war time. With Jews a smaller birth rate does not matter much, but with native Poles of over 20M you do get a sizable reduction. The birth rate of Eastern European Jews was just about 1.4% yearly for a very long time. Using this figure and including Jews in the USA you do get to the result that there were not 2.8M Jews in the Soviet Union of 1941 (after annexing Eastern Poland and the Baltic states) but 1.8M and then all figures go fine.

The Holocaust happened, and the number of brutally murdered people has likely been officially underestimated

sure thing Plyberg, that’s why they have to keep revising the numbers downward – from 4 million to 1 million at Auschwitz, from 2 million to 50k at Majdanek

Good to know that you believe everything your mother told you but I do not believe much of what you write. The 3 milions expelled from Czechoslovakia are as real as the numbers our lovely Carolyn feeds to the suckers on this blog. If your mother was stripped then my family was also stripped and financially ruined by the benevolent Germans. My greatoncle was probably also stripped either before or after the execution. I cannot tell exactly as I was born thereafter. Germans are much like Jews. Although claiming some Uebermensch-like superiority they always complain of being cheated and suffer terribly in the hands of slavic Untermenschen.

Thanks j2. Correction noted re. the Polish censuses. I am still very skeptical of the claimed 1.4% growth rate for East European Jews, it seems unrealistically high. We seem to agree that the Jewish death toll was in the 2-2.5M range, and also that there’s no evidence of several million uncounted Jews in the world today. So the claimed 11M after the war is probably accurate or at least reasonable. Which means the claimed 16.7M pre-war (actually should be 15.5M, as you know they increased the number up without justification to get the Kabbalistic 6M) can’t be right. I think the claimed number of Soviet and Polish Jews is even lower than you say.

BtM

Your true colors are you’re a liar who claims to be a skeptic but who actually believes the official story. You’re playing some kind of game here.

jews are like Christians’ wise older brother

Your knowledge of history is by american standards quite remarkable.

It is great that you can read maps Carolyn. After having perused your valuable article i was less certain about your practical skills. Would you know that Africa is also south of Usti?

– Irrational Zionist Franklin Ryckaert has exposed his “true colors” repeatedly, and has been taken to task for them at this site. Just look and see how he is unable present any proof for his unhinged, impossible claims.

https://www.unz.com/?s=Franklin+Ryckaert&Action=Search&ptype=all&commentsearch=only&commenter=Wally

“I am still very skeptical of the claimed 1.4% growth rate for East European Jews, it seems unrealistically high.”

Doubling time of 50 years (1.39% yearly) is what you get starting from a population of 300 around 1100 up to the Jewish population in 1891. But at the time of interest, a bit later, the growth rate in Eastern Europe may well have been significantly smaller because one should add all Ashkenazi Jews (the USA population and the European) and then apply the growth rate (which is in Israel today also 1.4%). It is natural to assume that to the USA migrated younger work age people and their birth rate was higher than for those largely too old ones who stayed in Europe, which would explain the claims that the Jewish birth rate in Europe was small. After the war, because of the modern lifestyle, the population growth rate reduced, but in Israel it is again in the old figure.

The high population growth of native Poles after the war and the low population growth in the war time is visible in their population pyramid. This pyramid has a very narrow part for those born during the war years. It can be explained by marriages being postponed as a large portion of Polish young men were in the army and later in POW camps where many died, and many women were in work duty. After the war there would have been many marriages and as a result many new born children in a short time. This is what the population pyramid suggests. It does not suggest that millions were killed because that would make a reduction on many year classes but the small year classes, like the large ones, are only on a short time period. Some native Poles did stay in Ukraine and other countries which were in Poland in 1938 even though there were transportations, but the figures for native Poles can be well explained with official Polish statistics and it does not show that 2-3M Poles were killed. Lower birth rate reduces 1M. War (army and civilian losses), POW deaths, deportation and both side terror losses total some 0.5M and so on. This gives the calculated reduction of the population of 2-2.5M. The calculation does not misinterprete German or Ukrainian population losses as native Polish population losses. The main errors in population statistics are in Soviet figures, not in some other country figures.

START WITH EUGENICS
AKTION T 4
In Mein Kampf, Adolf Hitler himself had spelled out the Nazi notion of “racial hygiene,” writing that Germany “must see to it that only the healthy beget children” using “modern medical means.” The Nazis believed this would produce Germans fit for the workforce, military service, and so on — while weeding out all others.

And as soon as the Nazis swept into power in 1933, they implemented laws that mandated sterilization for the physically and mentally disabled. It didn’t take much to become a victim of this program. Most victims were sent to be sterilized due to a vague diagnosis of “feeblemindedness,” while blindness, deafness, epilepsy, and alcoholism accounted for some of the other sterilizations.

All in all, the Nazis forcibly sterilized some 400,000 people. But once the war began in 1939, the Nazis’ plans for the disabled grew even darker.

The Nazi Program That Slaughtered 300,000 Disabled People
Inside the Aktion T4 program, the little-known Nazi euthanasia initiative that killed as many as 300,000 disabled people.

Nazi authorities executed a massive yet lesser-known program of targeted mass killing aimed at some of the most vulnerable people under their control: the disabled.

Starting as a euthanasia program that eliminated disabled infants and children deemed unfit to live and expanding in time to cover disabled adults and the elderly, the program ended in 1941 amid a welter of protests from many quarters of German society.

This murder of German children had no official name and was known in Germany only by the address where it was headquartered:
4 Tiergartenstraße, Berlin, which inspired the name Aktion T4.

The Roots Of The Aktion T4 Program

Nazi eugenics posters from 1935 illustratesd what they believed to be the dangers of allowing so-called genetic undesirables to live, reproduce, and account for a larger percentage of the gene pool than those with desired traits.

The ideological underpinnings of Aktion T4 were apparent in Nazi thinking from the party’s very beginnings. Nazi leaders had long preached the gospel of eugenics, calling for scientific control over Germany’s gene pool with the aim of improving it through state action.

The Test Case

In early 1939, an odd letter arrived at the office of the Nazi Party Chancellery from a German man and Nazi loyalist named Richard Kretschmar. He was trying to contact Hitler directly in hopes of gaining clearance to legally euthanize his own son, Gerhard, who had been born just a few months earlier with severe and incurable physical and mental disabilities including missing limbs, blindness, and convulsions (the original medical records are lost and second-hand accounts vary).

Kretschmar asked Hitler to let them have this “monster” put down. Hitler then sent his own physician, Dr. Karl Brandt, to look into the case. On inspection, Brandt decided the diagnosis had been correct, that he was an “idiot,” and there was no hope for improvement. Thus Gerhard was killed by lethal injection on July 25, 1939. His death certificate stated the cause of death as “heart weakness.”

Having now broken the ice, Hitler and company immediately set into a motion a plan that would call for the killing of the physically and mentally disabled in Germany en masse.

IF THEY COULD THIS TO GERMANS, WHAT HOPE HAD OTHER RACES?

You do one thing my friend : go to the website holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com, search for “swimming pool” and scoll down to Rebutting the “Twitter denial”: the most popular Holocaust denial memes debunked and refute all the 39 points thereof, or invite your friends of CODOH to do so. That would be a more fruitful approach than calling me a “Zionist”.

Well, if you believe 2.5M died during the war and that there were officially 15.5M before the war (you mention the artificial, unjustified increase to 16.7M in one of your blog posts), and that there were actually 1M fewer Soviet Jews prewar, that leaves a postwar (world) population of 12M, not the 11M claimed, no? In which case there is probably something like 1.5-2M Jews uncounted today (in Russian Far East, maybe?). I would find that hard to believe. A more likely scenario is that the number of Polish Jews was also overstated by 1M (unless that many took advantage of the name change law after the war, which is unlikely).

BtM

If there’s anything positive at all about ongoing plandemic/”mask-show”, it’d be yet
another confirmation of existence and power of the above-national structures (aka
world-government), that, may be in less conspicuous form and definitely not so
powerful as they are now, but existed before WWI already. Their presence/influence
can explain many, otherwise looking irrational, things in certain global events, including
WWII. For example, thinking of Hitler as of “the best actor for the role” (and the best
actor is the one who doesn’t know that he’s an actor) placed in power by those who didn’t
give a damn about Germany, or any other country in particular, explains why “the more
they kill each other – the better” was the leitmotiv of both WWI and WWII.

No. most are still hidden in my basement an will soon come out.

If the infallible Führer would be consistent, he would have “euthanized” his own minister of propaganda, the clubfooted Goebbels. But what about his own “feeblemindedness”?

“Why hasn’t the general public heard of these incredible mass graves?”

Starting with the general public: the mass graves were incredible indeed as a proof of German atrocities and the general public was aware of them as much as it was ware of similar finds in other countries which had the misfortune of having suffered German occupation. I wrote ‘was’ because since some time Soviet atrocities are being spotlighted at the expense of German ones (not a wise policy IMO but that is a different story). In addition nowadays ‘the general public’ is not aware of Katyn either or anything else that is not at the very moment trending on social media.

Having said the above let me tell you this: the question about ‘general public’ is a crude attempt at side-tracking tactics for the problem here is not what the ‘general public’ is aware of or not – instead the problem is: how come that you write as if you did not know?

Is the because of your ignorance?

or

Is that because you deliberately wrote falsities?

Since I lack mindreading abilities I do not know which of the two it is, however either way it disqualifies you or rather your writings.

“Except for a little commotion at Palmiry and Ponary, they are Polish fiction. The Germans assembled an international team of experts to exhume the Katyn graves and publish their findings.”

Ms. Yaeger at her finest.

Let me start by pointing out that the Germans did not display any attachment to truth or integrity for they invited foreigners to the site of a Soviet atrocity in order to make a macabre propaganda circus for their own benefit and not for any other reasons. Let me repeat it so that even you can grasp it: what the Poles suffered and the Soviets did was only shown to foreigners for propagandistic gains and thus does not present proof of high Germans standards in regard to anything.

“The Poles kept their exhumations, if there were any, all in the family.”

Materials from the exhumations including photographic evidence are publicly available. Should taking the trouble to see them in the archives be too much for you it would only demonstrate that doing some actual research is an effort you are incapable of. Which in turn means you have no basis to write with authority on any of those subjects. That said I must give you some credit for you started to read Wikipedia – considering your standards of research and the resulting knowledge (lack thereof) in regard to the topics you like to authoritatively write about that is a giant leap forward. Congratulations. Unfortunately this does not help you much since your attitude to sources and evidence is cavalier: if it does not suit you it can be dismissed as fiction. Thus I suppose exhumations are not proof enough, neither are the reburials of many of the victims and their present gravesites which are frequented by surviving family members (a dwindling number due to the age). In that case Bekanntmachungen about executions are not going to convince you either. You have to dismiss everything into non-existence as fiction since otherwise your entire narrative collapses. To make it clear: such an opportinistic dismissal of available sources and evidence does not discredit them, instead it discredits you and your writings.

Last but not least dismissing atrocities such as massacres committed by German (which even you did not dare to deny) as ‘little commotions’ speaks volumes about you, not in superlatives to make it clear.

Carolyn is funny but not amusing.

There is no perfect system. They all have good points and bad points, and I choose to recognize that. I also choose to look at things in context, and why systems work in some places, but not others.
Almost 50 years ago, while at university in Scandinavia, I had 2 Russian Soviets, a Czech, a Slovak, and an East German in my class. They were all happy to discus their system. They couldn’t understand how a government could stand by and allow people to be unemployed. For them, it was morally wrong, as people needed to work to feel self worth. I agree with the sentiment, but how that was achieved in the Soviet Bloc wasn’t for me. Contrast that with finance capitalism. The stock market goes up with more unemployment. To finance capitalism, unemployment is an opportunity to reduce wages and working conditions and increase profits. That is really just a different type of oppression than the old Soviet system.
Fifty years ago in Scandinavia, you could count, on one hand, the number of non-Whites you’d see in a week. It was extremely homogeneous, and most people, at some point in their family tree, would be related to most others. It was like a big family, and there was an enormous trust in each other, which included the government. They had a much higher standard of living, as long as you weren’t counting the size of homes and number of bathrooms, and crime was, comparatively, non-existent. Co-ops were a huge part of the economy. In some small cities, they owned hotels and restaurants. Their “socialized” systems, such as healthcare, were not perfect, but were more efficient and provided better care than what previously existed. For them and their massive extended “family” it was natural. The collapse of those systems today is due to the idiots (traitors) who promoted multiculturalism starting in the early 70s when all of the old “socialists” had left politics.
Could there system work in the US? Probably not, because comparatively, they US has never been a high trust society. It was higher trust 50 years ago, but never to the level of Scandinavia.
I noted the same in the UK. In the Northern counties near the Scottish border, and in Scotland outside the heavily populated areas like Leeds, Glasgow, and Edinburgh there was a high trust in the population, co-ops were more conspicuous, and people treated each other more like extended family, with the few exceptions of ancient clan rivalries. Those areas were traditionally strong “Labour” politically. Things that worked there, do not necessarily translate to success elsewhere.
The US success in being a rising world power had a lot to do with the massive abundance of natural resources. People coming from Europe recognized the potential and worked hard to take advantage of the opportunity and used great ingenuity. They didn’t have the familial supports, were primarily self sufficient, and relied on neighbours for co-operative efforts like barn raising. They did so out of necessity, and that culture gave way to the moneyed class, which was firmly in charge of the countries they left. The US citizens ended up in the same situation as their ancestors, but do not have the same history to cope with it.
I have long maintained that as bad as monarchies and dictatorships may be, at least you know where to direct your anger or criticism. The (((West))) has today is layers of treasonous bastards, responsible for different aspects of our problems, who cannot be identified, yet operate as a dictatorship. Are we really better off than places like the old Soviet Bloc, where people expected the government to lie, or China of today? In some ways, yes, in other ways, no.

After Munich, the Polish invasion and annexation of Tesin, which was part of Czechoslovakia, was recognized to be legitimate. What’s your point?

You say “many geographical inaccuracies in this article” and you cite one.

Your ‘article’ is chock full of non-factual nonsense of a grade-school level…for instance…

We must keep in mind that 31% of Poland’s population was of non-Polish origin; one million were German, as you can see from names of cities like Stettin, Gruenberg and Breslau.

So ‘Stettin’ is a German place name, or ‘Breslau’…?

You realize that in the age of wikipedia you can check very basic facts like the history of various places in a matter of minutes…

Szczecin…

The recorded history of Szczecin began in the eighth century, as Vikings[13] and West Slavs settled Pomerania.

[Btw, ALL of Pomerania, including the German half was originally Slavic…]

“Pomerania” and its cognates in other languages are derived from Old Slavic po, meaning “by/next to/along”, and morze, meaning “sea”, thus “Pomerania” literally means “seacoast” or “land by the sea”, referring to its proximity to the Baltic Sea.

In fact half of Germany has Slavic toponyms, place names of towns and cities, rivers etc…

Prior to the medieval Ostsiedlung, Slavic languages like Polabian, Sorbian, Pomeranian, and Slovenian were spoken in the eastern parts of the Holy Roman Empire.

The German settlers and administration in many cases adopted existing Wendish placenames, for example Rostock (from Old Polabian rostok, “river fork”), Dresden (from Sorbian Drežďany), and Berlin (possibly from a Polabian word meaning “Swamp”).

For the same reason, many German placenames ending in -anz (e.g. Ummanz), -gard (e.g. Burg Stargard), -gast (e.g. Wolgast), -itz (e.g. Lancken-Granitz), -ow (e.g. Gützkow), and -vitz or -witz (e.g. Malschwitz) have Slavic roots. Due to spelling and pronunciation changes over the centuries, the original Wendish term in most cases is not preserved.

Also, some placenames combine a German with a Wendish term (e.g. Altentreptow). The German suffix -au can be related to the Slavic -ow and -ov when derived from the Old German spelling (u= w =double u; e.g. Prenzlau was earlier spelled Prenzlow).

The Slavic origins of the eastern half of present day Germany are well known and a basic part of history education…the fact is that Poland actually has a much more legitimate claim over German territory than the other way round…

All one needs to do is to look up Berlin…

Of Berlin’s twelve boroughs, five bear a (partly) Slavic-derived name: Pankow (the most populous), Steglitz-Zehlendorf, Marzahn-Hellersdorf, Treptow-Köpenick and Spandau (named Spandow until 1878).

Of its ninety-six neighborhoods, twenty-two bear a (partly) Slavic-derived name: Altglienicke, Alt-Treptow, Britz, Buch, Buckow, Gatow, Karow, Kladow, Köpenick, Lankwitz, Lübars, Malchow, Marzahn, Pankow, Prenzlauer Berg, Rudow, Schmöckwitz, Spandau, Stadtrandsiedlung Malchow, Steglitz, Tegel and Zehlendorf.

I provided a basic outline of just a small part of this history on the recent Paul Craig Roberts thread, where you also participated [but apparently learned nothing]…comment 791…

…a third of present day Germany, stretching from Denmark to the Danube should be considered Slavic territory… since the Slavs were the original rulers of the area, as attested not only by history, but by the present day place names of the cities, settlements and rivers in the region, and the founders of those settlements and cities, and subsequent ruling families…

For instance the House of Mecklenburg…one of Europe’s longest ruling dynasties…which was founded in the twelfth century by Pribislav, a Slavic prince…

Statue of Obotrite Prince Niklot, Pribislav’s father, at the Schwerin Castle (sculptor, Christian Genschow)

The House of Griffin is another one…

Duke Wartislaw I (died 1135) was the first historical ruler of the Duchy of Pomerania and the founder of the Griffin dynasty. The most prominent Griffin was Eric of Pomerania, who became king of the Kalmar Union in 1397, thus ruling Denmark, Sweden and Norway.

The last Griffin duke of Pomerania was Bogislaw XIV, who died during the Thirty Years’ War, which led to the division of Pomerania between Brandenburg-Prussia and Sweden.

The two biggest German cities on the Baltic Sea are Rostock and Lubeck, both founded by West Slavs, as is clear from the names…

The same is true for the Polish Pomeranian city of Wroclaw, Germanized into Breslau…[any name that ends with ‘au’ in German is of Slavic origin as in ‘ow’ or ‘aw’…

In fact it was the Polish Duke that in the Middle Ages invited the Teutonic Knights into the region to put down the pagan Prussian tribes…the Prussians are NOT German…they are a Balto-Slavic people, speaking a Balto-Slavic language…Old Prussian…

There are many more blatant pieces of ahistorical nonsense in this ‘article’ [which I will cover later]…

Ron Unz should really consider going in for his Alzheimer test…last week he was arguing strenuously about human physiology with a board-certified emergency physician…now he takes the cake by publishing this pile of nonsense that doesn’t even rise to elementary grade-school history…

You’ve copy-and-pasted this before.

Thank you, Carolyn and Wilhelm, for this bold and thoughtful article. There are many reasons to doubt the Official Holocaust Narrative. The fact that ‘doubting’ this blood libel against the German people has been criminalized around the world is itself a red flag. Actual truth requires no such punitive measures.

Below is a chronicle that the claim of ‘six million Jews’ was being marketed before WWII even started. Indeed, it’s been discovered that the ‘six million Jews’ meme goes back to before WWI. Other researchers have uncovered claims about ‘six million Jews’ made during the mid 19th century! This evidence is shocking but undeniable.

Check this out brief but compelling account of Holyhoax claims made prior to WWII:

In fact it is well known that Parisz (today called Paris) was founded by Slavic kings who brought their culture to western Europe well before Cesar entered Gallia.

There are only 2 reasons that the German gov. can have for denying access. 1. to hide evidence that they know is there. 2. prevent the disclosure that the evidence isn’t there. That’s offers the logical question; Who Benefits. Well, who controls the German gov.? Just looking at how much cash the Germans have diverted to jews for compensation since 1945 tells me that the German government is not in the hands of Aryan Germans. Rather the opposite.

Nonsense…

The name ‘Paris’ is derived from its early inhabitants, the Gallic Parisii tribe…

Again…basic info on many things you don’t know in wikipedia…a good first step before wasting our time here…

You like the tyranny of the concept of the big 6 sun as the center of the universe?

The big 6 sun shines in the sky for you.

The rest of planet wants the real sun back as the center of the universe.

The world needs more Galileos to question the big 6 sun.

The intense heat of big 6 sun is shrinking the human mind.

About former claims of six million Jewish victims, see on the website holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com, search “swimming pool” and scroll down to Rebutting the “Twitter denial”: the most popular Holocaust denial memes debunked., under 6.The First Holocaust canard. You will see photocopies of 11old newspaper articles about 5 million and 18 old newspaper articles about 3 million Jews as victims.

As the article says :

“…Well, you get the point. The explanation is simple: the mentions of 5 and 6 million were mostly referring to the Jewish population of the Russian Empire (or its former territories after the Bolshevik revolution, including Poland) which was estimated as… you guessed it, between 5 and 6 million. 3 million referred mostly to the Jewish population of Poland and neighboring territories…”

He was trolling you, dumb-ass. You take yourself WAY too seriously.

“…You like the tyranny of the concept of the big 6 sun as the center of the universe?

The big 6 sun shines in the sky for you…”

This way of answering for me your own theatrical question is a kind of projection. No, I don’t think that the Holocaust is the most important thing in the universe, but, like it or not, Jews have made it so, and thus that requires an adequate response.

The Gallic ‘paryszi tribe’ would still speak Polish instead of the Latin Dialect they call French, if Cesar had not eliminated all traces of Slavic culture. Much like the non-existant Jewish mass graves.

Jews “always win”, the fact that Jews were largely exterminated in Europe is extremely inconvenient.

Revisionist history is putting lie to your “extermination” comment, and maybe that is the bee-in your bonnet?

Let’s modify from always winning, to the general feeling of “always winning.” This general feeling is amplified because the winning is done with usury and other sneaky means, not through honest labor.

In the last several hundred years of western history, usury has been normed out of the language and hence consciousness. Money capital has become “private credit,” and wars have been won to position creditor over debtor. Religious doctrine has been overturned or subverted, witness Zionist Christianity or Vatican II Catholicism.

The Jew has been either been involved directly or indirectly in all of these subversive movements… hence “winning.”

https://www.commentarymagazine.com/articles/f-cartus/vatican-ii-the-jews/

This big 6 mania is something that everyone grew up since 1945 with MSM 24/7 spouting it as the worst thing ever in history We all know the Santa Claus like tall tale. It won’t work anymore. People are tired and yearning to be free of big 6 sun.

Here is an example of big Six mania. Six million Crucifixions, a “history” book by Gabriel Wilensky, he blames Christianity for the big 6. Jewish culture was so “innocent” to him. We are “not allowed” to hear or read anything negative that Jewish culture ever did or does in the entire history of Judaism. This hiding of criminal behavior, a sacred thing that one can not question or look at, of Jewish culture is the real problem and not Christianity or anything outside Judaism.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Million_Crucifixions

The other major theme in Six Million Crucifixions is prosecutorial. As Michael Berenbaum, Director of the Sigi Ziering Institute points out, Six Million Crucifixions is an indictment of the Catholic and Protestant churches, with an emphasis on the Catholic Church.[7] Wilensky makes the suggestion that after the Second World War the Allies should have set up another international trial to prosecute any members of the clergy who may have been guilty of incitement or persecution of Jews before, during and after World War II. The book presents material that might have been used in a potential indictment had the Allies chosen to set up such a trial.

Like many Jews, you appear to be arguing that anyone who disputes the absurd and impossible ‘holocaust’ orthodoxy must, somehow, and by some strange and twisted logic, be themselves Jewish. It’s rather like saying that anyone denying that Saudis were responsible for the September 11th 2001 attacks in America must themselves be Saudis.

I’m awfully sorry, but it is a fairly sound bet that anyone who talks of Jews being ‘largely exterminated’ in Europe is either not bothering to look at the evidence or is someone with ‘a dog in the race’, as the saying goes. They were not ‘largely exterminated’ and in fact suffered far fewer deaths than most other races or ethnicities pro rata. Of course, it is inevitable that – given their control of the narrative – they relentlessly push their revolting victimhood status in order to protect the ultimate ‘Get Out of Jail Free’ card that the holohoax represents, and which they use – all too successfully – to excuse each and every vile criminal scam they perpetrate.

And we – most of us at any rate – are daft enough just to sit on our arses and believe them, rather than acquaint ourselves with facts that are redily available.

Sounds like a Sherlock Holmes episode, “The Mystery of the Missing Jews”…lol

Just how many Jews did go up the stack during WW2?

The world may never know.

Not nearly enough in my book.

It’s a goddamn shame all those Frankfurt School kikes weren’t “turned into gas and poured into the stratosphere”, I know that much.

Your calculation is correct and in most things we agree. The Jewish figures give 4.5M dead. Reducing the Soviet (that is, Ukrainian) Jewish population before the war by 1.1M reduces the death toll to 3.4M. In order to get to 2.5M death toll there had to be 0.9M more Jews in the Soviet Union after the war. The Soviet estimate after the war was that there were 1-3M Jews. The American Jewish Yearbook took the middle value 2M and that value is used in the calculation giving 4.5M. However, it could just as well have been 2.9M Jews in the Soviet Union in 1948. Estimation from a Soviet census in 1970s gives the figure 2.9M after the war. The case is that Jews mixed with the population and we have to estimate halactic Jews (with Jewish mother) in order to estimate the population size had it not mixed. I think it is possible there were more Jews in the Soviet Union in 1946. All those who went to the Soviet Union from the West were sent to labor camps. That happened to Russian POWs returned from Finland: Stalin sent them to camps. It happened to Ingrians returned from Finland to the Soviet Union: sent to camps. Not much was ever heard of those people and many died there. There were closed cities built by and for those forced labor workers.

I do not want to reduce the Jewish population of the Soviet Union more than by 1.1M because there were Jews in the Soviet Union in 1938. Even Finns took some Jewish prisoners of war, I think some 130 from 9000, 1-2%. I think the most natural explanation is recounting of Galician Jews to the Jewish population of Ukraine and Poland.

I do know that you are mocking. But excavation findings from years before year of our lord one thousand on Slavic territories are not only similar they are almost identical to Gaelic findings.
That means that these two tribes were once neighbors. Almost to this day the Gaelic form of dance is very similar to Slavic form of dance.

I see you are just another retarded shrimp here on UNZ…

A grand total of twenty retarded little comments, all of them completely lacking in education or any kind of real knowledge whatsoever…

If you actually have any kind of FACTUAL disagreement about anything I write here, then by all means try to articulate that [with what retarded brain cells you have to work with]…otherwise kindly shut the fuck up, SHRIMP…

Someone’s butt-hurt.

From your post, it seems you have the same mindset as the Pangermanists in the early 20th century. If you look at the placenames of northern France and Picardy, you will notice they are largely German.
Fauquembergues – Falkenberg
Nortkerque – Nordkirch
Balinghem – Ballingheiim
Lisbourg – Liesburg
Isbergues -Eisberg and dozens of others
On that basis, the most rabid Germanists thought that these provinces should be re-annexed.
Using your rationale, Italy or France should annex all the German cities with Latin-derived names.
What I am saying is that you are in the same camp as Yaeger, but from another angle.

Excuse me, I am a New Zealander of English, Scottish, Irish heritage only – so says Ancestry.com.
You are American with all that implies in today’s world.
Charts are only as good as the purpose they are used for.
Your Caption shows ignorance and now I realise it is wilful ignorance.
You do your ancestors no honour at all.
Laecherlich.

Little rat, quit thinking about Slavs. In those mindless communistic rats’ little heads all sorts of things might start popping up, things which might later on require extinguishing but which would in the meantime produce lots of tragedies. As all those maps below will clearly demonstrate, Slavs have never had anything of theirs west of Oder river. 2.000 years ago those “slavic toponyms” in Pomerania never existed, because Pomerania didn’t exist. That land was known as Germania. Anyone can see where Slavic lands always were.

The six million number is ten times of the number of 600000, the number of Jews who came from Egypt to Israel in the Torah. It is ritual, religious number and not something we in the secular 21st century should take as fact. The oddest thing of all is now in the 21st century that we are in the high Middle Ages again, the Age of Faith. The new Faith is Zion, one goes to jail, is jobless or ostracized if one questions Zionist’s versions of history.

600000 is also the number of letters in the Torah. The 6 number is a religious number and not a scientific number. That is why it is used so often. Thus the endless use of the big 6 before the “real” big 6 as in “trouble” and in “real” big 6 “trouble” after WWII. The big 6 game was to get Israel with no back talk with this big 6 shield from non-Jews. The big 6 was wanted to appear to have happen or made to look like it happened with the denial of real investigation.

https://www.chabad.org/kabbalah/article_cdo/aid/380372/jewish/600000-Souls-600000-Letters.htm

The word “Israel” can be read as an acronym for “Yesh Shishim Ribo Otiot LaTorah”, meaning: “There are six hundred thousand letters in the Torah”. Therefore, Israel did not leave Egypt until there were six hundred thousand of them, in order for each soul to be “supported” by one letter in the Torah, as we have written in a number of places.

Max Nordau, co-founder of World Zionist Organization, mentioned the big 6 as not a counting but a tragedy. He said it in 1911.

https://muhammad-ali-ben-marcus.blogspot.com/2015/10/the-six-million-myth.html

1911-
Max Nordau, co-founder of the World Zionist Organization together with Theodore Herzl, made an astonishing pronouncement at the tenth Zionist Congress in Basle, Switzerland. He claimed that 6,000,000 Jews would be annihilated. This was twenty-two years before Hitler came to power and three years before World War I started.
1911Zionistwarning6million

Excuse me, FOOL…

Do you plan to learn the English language at some point…?

My history lesson to this ridiculous ‘author’ was required because of the incredible ignorance to claim that the city names of ‘Stettin’ and ‘Breslau’ are of German origin…when in fact they are Germanized names of Slavic place names…

Just like those Gallicized place names you quote are in fact of German origin…

It was this ridiculous ‘author’ that was using faulty an non-factual information about PLACE NAMES as an argument FOR irredentism…[I suggest you look up the meaning of this word]…

It was not I who was arguing for irredentism, but what’s sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander…[also look up the meaning of that expression]…

Sorry MORON…I don’t speak ‘RETARD’…

I will need you to explain to me what your retarded little maps are supposed to mean and how that has anything to do with the FACTUAL information I presented…

Now go back to your shoe box and stop jerking off in public…

“You realize that in the age of wikipedia you can check very basic facts ”

If you rely on “facts” presented by wikipedia you are going to be more at home here:
https://www.digitaltrends.com/how-to/ten-best-websites-for-kids/

Czechia is not Slavic. It is Germanic land occupied by Czechs and it would be best if Germans would get their land back. Czechs are… disturbing bipedal creatures. So liberal. So very whorish. Utterly disgusting. Nothing like Polaks. Polaks care for their people and respect their ancestors, their history and their culture. Czechs are completely different kind whose nature is… whore-ism. Very despicable and disturbing people. All libtards ought to be completely eradicated and Czechia is full of these bipedal mammals. It is them who from their own free will disregard and disavow their ancestors, and thus forsake the right to exist as a collective. Liberals are individualists. They have no people. No collective. Or history. Or culture for that matter. They are individualistic nomads and have a form of existence as a kind bipedal cattle of sorts.

We Croats are Illyro-Romans. Dalmatia is our ancestral land. Dalmatia has ever been of Illyro-Roman history and culture. We have nothing in common with central European Slavs or Sarmatian Serbs. Slavic language and religion with it was spread by Slavic Church, not Slavs as a people. Macedonians, Sarmatian Serbs and Bulgarians (Turkic Bulghar tribe) have also adopted Slavic language through mediation and the work of the Slavic Church just like us. That should be clearly understood.

I don’t care what you think and you are obviously full of hatred. Of course I believe what my mother told me. I know her and she does not lie, had no reason to lie, in particular in a personal conversation we had. I have not met many Czechs but I have met one fair minded Czech and there “were” many and probably still are. I would not include you among them.

Those maps I provided in the first post of mine were maps dating from 100 BC to 7th century. Earlier maps are also telling similar story.

https://www.timemaps.com/history/europe-500bc/

You will easily notice where Turks belong to on all those provided maps. That tumor is from central Asia. It must be eradicated from Anatolia.

A more perfect example of extreme, dumb racism would be hard to find. And yet you identify as “we Croats”. Interesting.

Thank you. That is because my knowledge comes from people that were actually there. Not like you or others. Both my parents were German and lived there during the war. I had two uncles from what became Czechoslovakia, one from Prague and another from the Sudetenland. They were Germans/Austrians. The one from Prague served in the Czech army between WW I and WW II.

Wikipedia is a good first take on many subjects of basic history and science…

No one is suggesting that controversial or highly charged political issues are treated objectively or evenhandedly in wikipedia…but if you want to find out the basics about historical facts that are NOT disputed then it is a good jumping off point…if for no other reason than the voluminous citations that can then be investigated…

For information on math and physics for example, the wikipedia articles are usually fairly decent…

The facts that I presented about the Slavic origins of much of German territory are not in any kind of dispute, so why bring up this canard about wikipedia…?

This ridiculous ‘author’ is evidently quite unschooled…I don’t think she knows the first thing about Germany nor its people…I happened to have LIVED in Germany…my father was stationed with the British Army of the Rhine in Bielefeld, Westphalia for six years…for three of those years my mother an I also lived there and I attended my first three years of school there…later, I had the opportunity to spend a full year in East Germany as an exchange student…

I know a lot more about Germany than this ridiculous ‘author’…her so-called ‘article’ is chock full of bullshit…she claims that there were not massacres of Czechs other than the Lidice massacre, where an entire village, including many children, were summarily executed…[this author claims it was only men that were executed]

The Memorial to the Children of Lidice

That kind of ahistorical garbage is called LYING…

It is also a sign of deep, deep ignorance of the subject…she obviously has never been to Czechia…I have, many times in fact…and have talked to people that survived the Nazi occupation…

Seeing this author hose this forum down with diarrhea is not a credit to anybody involved with this website…it does not take long to research these factual things, like the mistreatment of Czechs and Poles by the Nazi occupation forces…

At the same time, we are told a bullshit story about Yugoslavia and how the British handed over fleeing Nazis and their collaborators…boo fucking hoo…that is what happens when you start a war…and especially if you are committing massive war crimes…

Look, what kind of moron can believe these stories that the NAzis were pure as the driven snow aned never committed war crimes…?

Again…only people who have not actually traveled and lived in that part of the world…none of the Germans I know, for nearly 50 years now, would have anything good to say about the nutcase Hitler…ELEVEN MILLION GERMANS perished in the war…

I remember even from those childhood years in Westphalia that people hated Nazis with a passion…everybody had a personal story of suffering…it is quite stupid that now you have know-nothings like this ‘author’ and others on this silly website that now romanticize this dreadful period in history…

A few years ago a German fellow I knew quite well for many years passed away…he was a Luftwaffe pilot in the war [Messerschmidt 109 fighter aircraft] who was shot down over France and was not released until 1953…thousands shared that same fate…

And you know what…he never had a single good thing to say about the Nazis…and he in fact spoke glowingly about how he was treated in captivity all those years…

Bottom line is that you people are just a joke…you have no real conception about the real world you live in, nor how things actually were in Europe…like any good internet buffoon you simply go online to toss off nonsense that you know nothing about…

Libtard, you can identify as a fish or a bird for all I care. You are still going to be without a collective, people, history, culture… in short: a nomad. You are obviously ignorant of origins; and it is also understandable that liberals would confuse race with religion and language as Slavic one represents. Try to educate yourself. Thinking that you might not be bird or fish would be a good start. That libtardic “education” you received in skool has wrecked your birdbrain completely.

“Some Jewish community leaders complained that villagers didn’t show enough respect for the dead. “How could people just walk past the grave and do nothing?” said Ilia Levitas, the head of Ukraine’s Jewish Council. ‘Where is their Christian mercy?’”

Ain’t the chutzpah breathtaking?

If the Ukraine wasn’t governed by (((neocon))) vassals, those grave sites would have been seized by government authorities, cordoned off, and a team of INDEPENDENT forensic archeologists sent into analyze the remains, taking as much time as they needed to get to the truth.

Of course Schlomo knows what the truth would almost certainly be (i.e., a blow against his cherished false history and victimhood narrative), thus his determination to keep the truth hidden at all costs.

Well…you previously claimed to be Albanian…so now you are supposedly ‘Croatian’…which is a Slavic country…genetics proves that…the genetic history of Europe…

The ‘Slavic’ haplogroup R1A in yellow and the ‘Celtic’ haplogroup R1b in red…notice that the Albanian territory is the only one that is predominatly African genetics…your people…

Another genetic map of Europe showing the haplogroups…

We see that Croatia has the MOST Slavic R1a of any of the former Yugoslav countries…the others being more I haplogroup, which are also found predominantly in Scandinavia…

Your ridiculous theory is complete nonsense…what we know from genetics, linguistics and archeology is summed up in the Kurgan Hypothesis…

Map of Indo-European migrations from c. 4000 to 1000 BC according to the Kurgan model. The magenta area corresponds to the assumed urheimat (Samara culture, Sredny Stog culture). The red area corresponds to the area that may have been settled by Indo-European-speaking peoples up to c. 2500 BC, and the orange area by 1000 BC.

The major revolution in human history happened in this place and time, the domestication of the horse and the invention of the wheel…and allowed the Aryan peoples carrying the R1a and R1b genes to conquer most of Eurasia and carry their genes and Indo-European language with them…

Professor David Anthony has put this together in his landmark work The Horse the Wheel and Language…

Another major technological advance was the heavy metal axe as seen in the Corded Ware Culture that spread across Europe…also called the ‘Battle Axe Culture’…

The Kurgan Hypothesis tells us that the Aryan invaders displaced the matriarchal and sedentary European peoples that were the I haplogroup which we see still strongly represented in the Balkans and Scandinavia…but the R1 Aryans took over after the invention of the wheel and horse…In fact the Indo European language and the R1 haplogroup is the most widely spread in the world…

Only your Albanians are not of Aryan stock, being of African Y DNA…the Y chromosome being the patriarchal lineage…

I think you’ve copy-and-pasted this before too.

I suppose an extra 1M Jews would simply reduce the postwar population growth rate to around 0.25% as opposed to just under 0.4%, which would not be inconsistent with some decades in the sample.

The CODOH Forum is all over this article:

see:
‘Search for Mass Graves to Support Claimed Numbers Taking Surprising Turn’ / Yeager & Kriessman: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=13300

i.e.:

“Shame it is from 2010, so 10 years old and doesn’t mention all of the failed attempts to prove the existence of “huge mass graves” in the past 10 years.”

I happened to have LIVED in Germany…my father was stationed with the British Army of the Rhine in Bielefeld, Westphalia for six years…for three of those years my mother an I also lived there and I attended my first three years of school there…later, I had the opportunity to spend a full year in East Germany as an exchange student…

Now here is the absolutely most reliable witness to tell how the Germans felt about Hitler. Hey they told him straight out to his face so we have to believe every word he says about they told him

You are either the most gullible fool in the world or lying.

Your father was a soldier in an army occupying Germany after the Germans had been crushed by that army. You were the son of that occupier. Can you at all imagine that the occupied would have acted positively toward the occupier to be seen in a favorable light to their own advantage? That the best way of doing so was to shout how they hated the evil Hitler.

This testimony is worthless for judging how Germans really felt about things.

I know, because I lived in Germany as a small child from 1944 through 1951. What the German people were focused on is how to make the best of a bad situation.

If you want to know how the Germans felt about Hitler at the time, try watching newsreels of the German army marching into Austria, the Sudetenland, the victory parade after the fall of France.

Of course defeat changed their perspective. But if the Germans actually felt as you claim during the war, how was it the German army in the main continued fighting to the end?

As for the Luftwaffe pilot you mention, I guess you never heard of Rudel, a devout supporter, , Hartman a patriot and Galland who while he had differences about Hitler’s leadership never denounced him as you claim the Germans felt about him

The surest proof that the kind witnesses you cite under the circumstances you describe are unreliable about revealing the truth to foreigners about their true feelings toward Hitler, in 55 Days describing the final campaign for defeating the ARVN, the author writes about someone he knew during the war as a high ranking person in the ARVN who showed up as an NLF leader after the PAV liberated Saigon.

I bet during the war he fervently denounced the NLF as terrorists. And it undoubtedly reassured his Amnerican colleagues into trusting him

Tycho Brahe was Danish.

That’s not correct. After the Munich conference in fall of 1938, Czecho-Slovakia continued to exist in its new borders until the March crisis of 1939 when Slovakia seceded. After that, Czechia existed on in Protectorate form, and Slovakia as a sovereign state. In 1945, Czecho-Slovaia was forcibly formed again, but as with all unnatural, forced unions, it fell apart as soon as circumstances allowed it, and that was after the first break in the unnatural post-war order in 1990.

The whole left-wing, Jewish dominated history of World War 2 is an abject, disgusting and increasingly fragile lie.
Facts:
1. Hitler did not seek war. In fact, FDR did (his diaries clearly illustrate his deceit and his main advisors were Jews) and Churchill was a bought and paid for half-American political hack with a lot of expensive habits and no income. He could not have survived the scrutiny of the Modern Press; having a 300k pound/year income appear out of nowhere (that we now know all came from rich Jews) would not sell.
2. The evidence of Jewish deaths during the war is, objectively based on Red Cross data, about 250K; all from the same pestilences that affected everyone else (largely typhus transmitted by lice and starvation at the end of the war due to Allies strategic bombing of German supply lines). They were used as ‘slave labour’, along with Slavs and others, yet the evidence shows that conditions were good and regulations extensive; they were a valued and respected labour supply.
3. No plans to kill the Jews exist despite extensive examination of documents. No intent exists or can be shown to exist. Nuremberg was a travesty of Western law; a kangaroo Court in which defendants were tortured and beaten for confessions.
4. Extensive evidence exists that over 5 million ethnic Germans, descendants of nearly 1,000 years of the eastward movement of German peoples into Russia, Eastern Europe and the Balkans, were murdered or died of disease as they attempted to return ‘home’. The women were often raped and sometimes murdered by Soviet troops out of sheer savagery.
5. Stalin did seek war. He understood that the West had assisted the German Reich in building a war machine. The complete failure of the Bolshevik’s to expand by inciting a Revolution in Spain had failed. Europeans, however, saw the brutality of Communism in action and this caused extensive support for Hitler throughout Europe. Over 1 million foreigners and 150k German Jews fought against Stalin, Communism and the Red Terror that murdered millions of Orthodox Christians from 1917-1922, again in the 30’s and again after WW2. Hitler is always cited as ‘invading Russia’ yet modern data shows, and the German General Staff suspected, that the Soviet War machine war was primed and ready to go. In fact, Stalin had moved his troops closer to the border and couldn’t even afford to pull them back. Without the support of the U.S., the Soviet war machine would have collapsed; American steel was critical in the Soviet war effort. FDR could have starved to Soviet War machine and let it collapse. LIke the communist he was, he did not.

The Jews have not changed in thousands of years. It is always victimhood and no honest assessment of wrongdoing. They had special privileges from the Romans yet still betrayed them to the Persians. Eventually, the Romans grew weary of their crap and kicked them out of the province of Syria Palestina. They were only allowed to return on Tisha Bav, one day out of the year. Yes the Romans killed around 200k Jews possibly 400k during a century of conflict. You will never hear the Jews admit that afterwards they killed 200k Greek Roman Catholics in Cyprus and 200k in Egypt during the Kitsos War. Why is that? Jews don’t do history or science; they do polemics and propaganda.

– Yep, here we go again Franklin Ryckaert cannot show us his alleged millions of “holocaust” human remains, he dodges challenges, and is now hoping his fellow Zionists at so called “holocaust controversies” can bail him out. Wrong.

– That childish bunch of easily debunked Zionist shysters have been demolished even more than Franklin Ryckaert himself, which is really saying something. Now insert other foot, Franklin. You’re in way over your head. Hint:
https://forum.codoh.com/search.php?keywords=holocaust+controversies&fid%5B0%5D=2
“Search found 531 matches: holocaust controversies”

examples:
– An Analysis and Refutation of Factitious “Evidence,” Deceptions and Flawed Argumentation of the “Holocaust Controversies” Bloggers: https://codoh.com/library/document/3052/?lang=en
– Holocau$t Controversies’ slapped silly lies about their Hungarian Jews:
http://juergen-graf.vho.org/articles/hungarian-holocaust-debate.html
– Questions for Holocaust Controversies to answer : https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11786
– Aktion Reinhardt Camps / Holo. Controversies Debunked Again!: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8145
– CODOH routs Industry spokesman Andrew Mathis of ‘holocaust’ Controversies: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4451&p=72138&hilit=mathis+thames+mulegino#p72138
– Ryan Faulk vs Sergey from Holocaust Controversies: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=13219
– demolished: Article from “Holocaust Controversies” about Jews Transported to The East: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=13084

Shmuel: They’ve changed the border. You’re now in Poland.
Jakov: Thank G-d. I couldn’t take another Russian winter.

A reassessment of prehistoric archeology has reversed many theories on European ethnogeneses. It became increasingly clear that the migration of Celtic tribes (in successive waves) was from the North-Western regions of Europe to the East since the Copper Age all through to the Iron Age. So, you have the Kymri migrating to the North-Pontic steppes where you find for a short time the Cimmerians, Gaels migrating to Galitia and Galatia in Asia Minor, Veneti from the Atlantic regions to the Baltic, Poland and Germany were we find the Veneti/Wends, etc. ‘ So, Paris was from the start Celtic and remained as such to this very day.
It became increasingly clear that the traditions of the Danubian/Pannonian origins of the ‘Slavs’ were truer than the theories of their origins in the Pripyat swamps where they migrated from. Slavs migrate from South-West to North-East.

Unlike as with Poles and Czechs, under whose rule Germans were immediately put under duress and completely eliminated within 25 years, Slavs, in contrsts, could live within the German Reich, the German community for a thousand years without being in any way disadvantaged or put under duress. If they felt that learning German for business, study in the German universities or participating in German affairs was to their advantage, then it was a voluntary action. No one forbade the use of Czech, Slovakian, Polish or Sorbian, the Sorbs exist to this day in the same small area in Central Germany they did in the past and they still speak Sorbian, yet they feel that they are Germans.

If one takes it as a given that history is not static, it follows for reasonably intelligent people that changes do occur. That’s something the Polish crowd commenting here with foaming, boiling blood doesn’ t understand. According to their opinion, all of Europe is Slavic, was Polish, it’s all theirs, they can proof it with their maps and Polish facsimile documents and so on. It’s in the same insane breathless voice as they agitated against Germany before the First War, and after it, when they had already committed violence against their German, Lithuanian, Hungarian, Russian and Czecho-Slovakian neighbors, and after the Second War, when their insatiate demand for more land they covet to own led them to commit the greatest crime in recorded history by occupying Eastern Germany and driving away the 12 million inhabitants there at gun point. I.e. the Poles alone took one third of German living space because “it was theirs”. In addition to this crime against their fellow humans, and their neighbors, this crime against human laws as regards ownership and property, they want reparations from Germany, very big reparations. These people are truly unbelievable. And they believe that this kind of behavior is normal.

Wow, FB, a True believer in Wikipedia blows his cover by laughably saying:

“Wikipedia is a good first take on many subjects of basic history and science…

But then:
– Zionist Wikipedia Editing Course
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/139189
– How Israel and Its Partisans Work to Censor the Internet
https://www.unz.com/article/how-israel-and-its-partisans-work-to-censor-the-internet/?highlight=wikipedia
– Wikipedia Co-Founder: Site’s Neutrality Is ‘Dead’ Thanks to Leftist Bias
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/05/26/wikipedia-co-founder-sites-neutrality-is-dead-thanks-to-leftist-bias/

Then FB posts “The Memorial to the Children of Lidice”, another lie.

– Children were not shot, the alleged ‘whole village was also not “murdered”
– As strange as it may seem, retaliation was allowed under international law.
– Only military age men were shot, quite legal under international law, women & children were not.
see:
https://www.unz.com/article/why-germany-attacked-the-soviet-union/?highlight=lidice#comment-3120669

More of FB’s propaganda shot down:
https://www.unz.com/?s=FB&Action=Search&ptype=all&commentsearch=only&commenter=Wally

It is new to me that Pangermanism -a phenomenon that seems to have been mostly known in England and was peddled in the US by one Prof. Roland Usher- had put pretensions on such places in Northern France (you might also have included in your list Dunkirk to name a more well known place). I do know, however, that places such as Lyons, Nancy or Besancon were German a few hundred years ago and no one in Germany would have thought it an idea worthy of consideration to “demand” these cities be ceded to Germany because they were once German. That would be plainly idiotic. What poppycock. A city is French because it’s citizens are French, they act, they think, the desire, they plan French and are in solidarity with their French homeland. To incorporate them into Germany would not make any sense to the German mind – which appears to exist in the world of ideas and notions, not bound to crass materialism as seems to be the case with some commenters here who cast their geographical net far to lay claim to foreign possessions.

Albanians are a very heterogeneous nation. Some Albanian tribes have their origins from the Turks, some from the Serbian and Slavic population of today’s Northern Albania, some came from southern Italy, and some show great similarities with certain peoples of the Caucasus. It is enough to read the descriptions of the Illyrians by ancient authors, so that it becomes clear to any well-meaning researcher that the Illyrians have very little resemblance to the Albanians, and that they are almost identical to the southern Slavs. Eg. The Illyrians were described as the tallest people of that time, and the Dinars, Dalmatians and generally Serbs and Croats are still among the highest nations in the world, while the Albanians are extremely short and even in modern times have not reached the height of the average Illyrian in ancient times. Even famous Skenderbeg one of the greatest warriors in human history was Serb but Albanians use him as a their hero .

What a load of flatulence…

We were in West Germany in the late 1960s…twenty five years after the war, so it was hardly an ‘occupation’ army…

My father was a Germanophile and I attended a German language school…our family often visited the home of my dad’s best friend Albrecht who was a refined German fellow, an architect and well-read intellectual…he and dad were fast friends until he passed years later…

If you think life actually works like what you describe, where people like us living in the midst of German society, with German friends and neighbors, going to a German school…and yet everything we are given to believe about how German people really feel is one big put-on and charade, then you have very serious problems my friend…

Look, you soft-headed retard…

Have you ever been to Czechia…?

Didn’t think so…then what makes you think a retarded oaf like yourself has the right to deny those child victims…?

This is fucking sick…if you ever showed your soft head around Lidice the local folks would turn your head into a gravy boat…in fact I would turn your stupid soft head into a gravy boat myself…

Why would they put up a statue to the 82 children murdered by the sick Nazi scum…?

To create eighty-two statues of children in an above-life-size height took her two decades. The atelier where the monument was created was meanwhile visited by tens of thousands of people from the whole world. They started collecting money spontaneously so that the monument could be realized as it already touched everyone who had seen it.

Do you think people just put up elaborate public memorials to imaginary victims…?

You are one fucking retarded peabrain…

A total of 203 women and 105 children were first taken to Lidice village school, then the nearby town of Kladno and detained in the grammar school for three days.

The children were separated from their mothers and four pregnant women were sent to the same hospital where Heydrich died, forced to undergo abortions and then sent to different concentration camps.

A pathetic little sicko whose stupidity and lack of common sense is almost unimaginable…

Well…it’s hard to take this kind of uninformed tripe seriously…

The Nazis would have treated the Poles with all the care and loving in their tiny little hearts…?

Come on man, that is just fucking retarded blubbering…

A reasonable person can somewhat agree with you about Poles being generally unrealistic and not very reliable [one supposes there ought well be a reason for the ubiquitous Polish jokes]…but to say that Hitler didn’t intend to exterminate a great many of them and settle Germans in their place…and actually did send countless innocent folks to their graves…well that is just ridiculous…

And it doesn’t change any of the facts about the Slavic origins of much of Germany…that includes genetically, as I have discussed elsewhere…

Also the Sorbs don’t have education or media in their own language…in fact their language IS NOT an official language in Germany…

This is well below the accepted human rights standards of the 21’s century, and is somewhat on a par with the Kurds in Turkey for instance…not quite Palestinians, but not a whole better either…

You need to start being more realistic and better informed about true facts if you intend to be taken seriously…

Wally:
I think it should also always be brought up that at the time of the reprisal against the male adult population of the small town of Lidice for giving aid and comfort to assassins, British bombers were dropping indiscriminately bombs on German towns, razing them and killing people, including infants, newborns, children, young girls and boys at the time of their first love without any reason other than Churchill’s criminal lust of instilling death on others. He dressed up his abnormality as “strategy”. That’s apparently ok in the mind of the FBs of the world, although it takes a lot more courage to be commandeered to an execution peleton than pressing the button to open the bomb bay and releasing the load to fall into the void towards a target one doesn’t need to see.
As regards Lidice, Churchill had the assassins trained in England and flown them into the Protectorate which was not party to the war, just to widen the war by also drawing in the Czechs. The reprisal was key to Churchill’s intent. I can’t think of this abomination without feeling something akin to nausea.

Yes…the men of the so-called Dinaric Alps [Serbs, Croats, Bosnians] are indeed among the tallest in the world…

I often feel like a midget when walking around in Zagreb or Belgrade or Sarajevo…and I’m well over six feet…

Here’s the interesting thing, going back to genetics and the genetic history of Europe…the I haplogroup aka M170 is marked by unusual height among its populations…

Subclades can be found in most present-day European populations, with peaks in some Northern European and South East European countries.

This haplogroup reaches its maximum frequency in the Western Balkans (with the highest concentration in present-day Herzegovina). It may be associated with unusually tall males, since those in the Dinaric Alps have been reported to be the tallest in the world, with an average male height of the range 180 cm (5 ft 11 in)-182 cm (6 ft 0 in) in the cantons of Bosnia, 184 cm (6 ft 0 in) in Sarajevo, 182 cm (6 ft 0 in)-186 cm (6 ft 1 in) in the cantons of Herzegovina.

But here’s the interesting thing…the closely related subclade I1-M253 is predominant at the other end of Europe in Scandinavia…

Haplogroup I1-M253 (M253, M307, P30, P40) displays a very clear frequency gradient, with a peak frequency of approximately 35% among the populations of southern Norway, southwestern Sweden, and Denmark, and rapidly decreasing frequencies toward the edges of the historically Germanic-influenced world.

This would seem to support the Kurgan hypothesis that the ‘old’ Europe [I haplogroup] was conquered by the invading Aryans [R1 haplogroup] starting about 5,000 years ago with the invention of the wheel and horse…

Driving in off the Russian steppe, the Aryans basically seemed to have plowed the ‘old’ Europe into half…with the old ‘I’ types basically ending up relegated to the periphery…off to the side in both the extreme north and south…

In fact if you look at the occurrence of the I haplogroup, it is the most widely distributed in Europe, but dominant in only a few places in Scandinavia and the Balkans…

This is the ‘old’ Europe to which the Kurgan hypothesis refers, and indeed the I group is among the oldest human Y DNA lineages…

As I have mentioned elsewhere, the transformation brought about by the horse and wheel lasted for 5,000 years…basically right up until about 100 years ago was the era of the horse, when the internal combustion engine and electricity finally moved aside the horse as the prime mover of humanity…

We were in West Germany in the late 1960s…twenty five years after the war, so it was hardly an ‘occupation’ army…

I have news for you. If you care to check, Germany was still formally under occupation (in limited form) until the Treaty on the Final Settlement with Respect to Germany was signed September 12, 1990. And in fact, the German Basic Law still provides in “Article 146[Duration of the Basic Law]This Basic Law, which, since the achievement of the unity and freedom of Germany, applies to the entire German people, shall cease to apply on the day on which a constitution freely adopted by the German people takes effect.

Thus by its own terms, the German Basic Law is not something that was “freely adopted” by the German people.

But your comment on this exposes your complete ignorance of the true state of affairs.

I knew a German exchange student who as a senior was at my high school whom I got to know very well because we could easily converse in German and he knew he could trust and rely on me to keep our conversation private because of our shared views about the war. He was proud of the fight Germany waged and he didn’t mind sharing it with me. That was enirely unlike what he told fellow students from America to whom he gave the party line they expected to hear. Our friendship lasted for only about three months until the family he was staying with and those running the program realized he as not becoming sufficiently educated about America because of how we discussed matters that prompted them to move to another city to avoid my contaminating him with my views about the war and America’s role in the world.

You are entirely clueless about what Germans would tell foreigners, especially members of the occupying army, how they really felt about them.

And then, there is of course the point that what option did the Germans have except pretend they loved their conquerors which was the only way they could gain a semblance of indepedence. On top of it, there would always be those who saw it to their advantage to side with their conquerors. Just note how many people in the areas occupied by the Germans were shot for being collaborators after the Germans had to withdraw. I bet they also thought well of the Germans and denounced their own leaders who got them into the war for no good purpose.

You are so clueless about this that if your brain were made of explosives there wouldn’t be enought there to blow your nose.

– Ah yes, you dodged what I posted because you cannot refute the facts.
– Of course you dodged the point of the entire article, which is the alleged human remains of the alleged millions do not exist, hence the claims are lies.
Which means you are full of crapola.

said:
“Why would they put up a statue to the 82 children murdered by the sick Nazi scum…”

– It’s called propaganda. Also called ‘lying’, which you must think no one ever does. LOL
– Why would people all over the world claim to have witnessed witchcraft, claimed to have had sex with the devil?
– Why would people put up statues of fictional characters like these?
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=statues+of+fictional+historical+characters&t=hk&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images

– Hey dumsky, bottom line, you have no proof. You’ve been called on your BS.

– And BTW, why do you want those alleged children to be dead? Ordinary, healthy people we be glad to know that they were not executed.

As regards Lidice, Churchill had the assassins trained in England and flown them into the Protectorate which was not party to the war, just to widen the war by also drawing in the Czechs. The reprisal was key to Churchill’s intent. I can’t think of this abomination without feeling something akin to nausea.

A key pointy to remember about the assassination is that the British didn’t do it because Heydrich’s policies generated hatred and opposition to the occupation, but precisely because they were designed to and did generate support from the population. Killing him thus achieved the double purpose of not only ending the effective policy he was pursuing, but the assassination was designed to generate the repression that followed that further undermined those policies.

‘Proof’ that those children are dead…?

What a retarded fucking moron…how many parents do you know that would go along with a twisted charade of pretending their children are dead…?

You obviously don’t have the bare minimum of what would be considered basic human intelligence…

You’re obviously off your rocker…

A German student who was in America confided in you that he really loved Hitler…?

Yeah, no…I don’t think so…

I think it’s much more likely that he was going along with you because he could see you were a bit off…

According to that first map, Croats, Serbs and Romanians are not Slav (R1a) but proto-European (12a). According to the second map, the Croats have the most of the 12a, and they and their neighbours seem to have less than a quarter R1a. One could say that the lower presence of 12a in others to the northeast is indicative of migrations from this region, while the Ria would indicate the reverse. Why just not say that people mixed in those regions of Europe, to a greater or lesser extent. Even with migrations, some have preserved their genetics better than others – the Gypsies sure have.

Only military age men were shot, quite legal under international law

Reference please from original “international law” that this was legal at the time, not some codoh statement.

This is a very good article. To count the exact number of victims in a war is obviously a near impossibility, and in the case of the Second War there are so many reasons by the side that instigated and victoriously ended the war to not be truthful with these numbers (as with the six (6!) million alleged Polish dead that one cannot take them seriously. Since borders and populations of the area where Polish authority was exercised shifted so much within 6 years, an exact accounting of people who died is certainly nearly impossible and this is a consideration apart from the sincerity with which such an inquiry would be made and its result not merely decreed. The situation is now such that real, forensically relevant findings are downplayed or ignored, if it concerns victims on the Axis side, while no limit exists for the other side, especially Jews (who insist on the 6 million since the late 19th century -a good summary is in Don Heddesheimer’s The First Holocaust)) and Poles and Czechs who have the strongest need to justify themselves in light of their past behavior, their unclean gains through the war, and their future with Germany as their direct neighbor, and a future before them that evermore judges the past as it really happened and not as a construct of wartime propaganda. I think they have themselves done in in the long run. The Churches were also turning away from the truth and the result is that they are also losing the faithful. They are now the mere shadow of what they were 75 years ago. All the words uttered in support of something cannot substitute the perception of trustworthiness, honorability or sincerity.

There is very interesting Croatian historian Goran Saric they hate him in Croatia because of his pro Serbian narrative . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vin%C4%8Da_culture Vinca civilization very interesting .
https://www.logicno.com/zivotni-stil/intervju-goran-saric-na-balkanu-se-razvila-prva-europska-civilizacija.html
Google can help
I am 6’7” and that is average height in Montenegro 🙂

In the Third Reich, wives or parents of German servicemen in wartime sometimes held funeral ceremonies for them even though they knew they were in fact alive. The reason they knew is because they listened to the BBC or Radio Moscow, which broadcast lists of captured German personnel. However, it was a serious crime in Nazi Germany to listen to enemy radio stations and so in that case they went through with a charade.
Conversely, a woman who listened to the BBC told a neighbour that the neighbour’s son was alive and a POW in British hands. The neighbour, rather than being glad, denounced her to the Gestapo.

Well, knock me over with a feather…😂 😂 😂

Looks like Carolyn has lost whatever marbles she may have had at one time…

I have been to Prague. My companion and I were given the wrong check (for more than ours) at a very expensive riverside restaurant and had to return the next day to get our overpayment back. The restaurant was ‘thoughtful’ enough to give us a cup of coffee on the house as we waited to be reimbursed for what we had overpaid. Oh, please don’t overdo the generosity, we said to each other!

A few days before that in Crakow [sic], Poland, I ordered a Ceasar [sic] Salad with fresh chicken at a nice restaurant and was presented with a Chef’s Salad with ham and cheese. When I pointed that out, I was told it was a Cesar Salad! Even the manager insisted it was a Ceasar [sic] Salad. But I wouldn’t accept it and ordered something else, and it was plain they had a very hard time allowing me to do so! These people are hopelessly stubborn, stingy and wrapped up in themselves. … Like the ones here.

So this is the extent of Karen’s Carolyn’s FIRSTHAND experience with Slavs…they gave her the wrong salad, and then only offered a free coffee…😰 😰 😰

Did you demand to speak to the manager, Karen Carolyn…?

My god, those filthy Slavs…and they even overcharged us on our check and we had to go back to the restaurant the next day and beg for our money back…[that must have been one for the human dignity hall of fame…]

Look Carolyn…it’s obvious that you are one loony old bird…[your co-‘author’ incidentally would be 100 years old right now…]

None of your whining about how horribly we’re treating you here has any bearing on the facts…you have filled this ‘article’ with nonsense about Stettin and Breslau being German place names…you have stooped very low to deny the murder of 82 children…plus a lot of bullshit about how there were no other massacres in Czechia…

Not to mention the BIG ONE…that you, in your shriveled up little head, are supposedly talking on behalf of REAL GERMANS…

You’re not…you don’t speak for ANY Germans [and yes, I’m in a position to know that]…that is not my opinion that is a fact…go to Germany and see how popular your Nazi idolatry will be over there…ordinary Germans will think you a mentally sick nut…[and they would be right…]

You are blabbing nonsense.
No Slavs were agitating against Germany before first world war.
Almost all Slavs of catholic religion were part of Austro-Hungarian empire.
They had nothing to do with Germany
There was no rebellion or uprising against Hapsburg rule.
Austrian Germans and Slavs did coexist just fine.
It was England that was jealous of this empire that did initiate the WW1
I do love Putin because his attitude is to have a friendly relations with Germans.
As England did break up friendly relationship of Slavs and Germans,
Now US is trying to do the same with sanction.

Gomberg Map (original). End of story. And your dollar states exactly who is in charge.
This is why the US stopped for the USSR. If you are too stupid to understand, there are too few WWII veterans to ask why in the hell did the US stop when at the doorstep of Berlin and then waited for months for the USSR to do it’s business.

Poor little girl! You still must have a tummy ache from that horrible Ceasar (?) salad.
I do believe that all those atrocities against Germans what you described are true.
And you are correct about Lidice. (But there was another village Lezhaky where male population (over 15 years old) was wiped out.

“…A few days before that in Crakow, Poland, I ordered a Ceasar Salad with fresh chicken at a nice restaurant and was presented with a Chef’s Salad with ham and cheese. When I pointed that out, I was told it was a Cesar Salad! Even the manager insisted it was a Ceasar Salad. But I wouldn’t accept it and ordered something else, and it was plain they had a very hard time allowing me to do so! These people are hopelessly stubborn, stingy and wrapped up in themselves. …”

After such profound “anthropological research” I am confident you are now an expert on Slavic mentality. Congratulations!

Yes I was thinking as I read about this cooperation between the Ukrainian Government and the Rabbis that the Ukrainian government was put there by the Obama -Clinton state Dept Jew Victoria Nuland who is married to one of the Zionist Kagan brothers . How cozy are the Chosen People?

Again and again we are accused of creating something we do not do

It is written in your unhistorical article:

There exists an important Polish population chart. It marks a pre-war Polish population of 29.89 million people, and for the year 1946 a population of 23.6 million.

According to:
https://www.britannica.com/place/Poland/The-Second-Republic

The Second Republic
With an area of about 150,000 square miles (389,000 square km) and more than 27 million inhabitants (more than 35 million by 1939), interwar Poland was the sixth largest country in Europe.

Do you think Poles have any influence on Britannica? Check United States Census Bureau if you want more or any other European census files before war. If you make such mistake missing ca 5 millions people how do you expect anybody to believe to your stories?

Very good essay. Needs to be done and done again because right now there is a much watched “Documentary” on Netflicks called “Einsatzgruppen” which is fairly cleverly done but is really just a bunch of unverified assertions. This DocuDogma will be followed by another and another. Jewish Inc will beat this horse into infinity because they have told the biggest lie ever told and their future depends upon keeping it fresh and resonant – especially among the people who watch documentaries. The thing is that people watching these things cannot imagine how problematic or even purely contrived so much of the “evidence” really is. But sooner or later some of the gullible will come across essays like this one. That is the way it happened for me only few years ago. For once I thought I would actually read one of these crazy “Deniers” and Oh My God! The rest has been history – real history.

– Under the Geneva Convention of 1929 reprisals against civilian populations for partisan / terrorist activities were legal until 1949.

Reprisals were not regulated by the Hague Land Warfare Convention of October 18, 1907. They received first mention in Article 2 Section 3 of the Geneva Agreement of September 27, 1929, about the treatment of prisoners of war. This Agreement prohibited reprisals against prisoners of war. A general prohibition of reprisals against civilians was not issued until August 12, 1949, by the Geneva Convention Relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War.

– Comité international de la croix rouge, Les conventions de Genève du 12 août 1949, Geneva 1949

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– Yes, “proof” which you do not have.

you said:
“how many parents do you know that would go along with a twisted charade of pretending their children are dead…?”

– IF they really did, I would simply compare them to those who claimed:

– ‘Jews were steamed to death at Treblinka’
– or that they ‘breathed through a keyhole in a gas chambers to survive’
– or ‘they lived with wolves to hide from the ‘Nazis’
– or ‘they saw geysers of blood spewing in the air from those killed by Germans’
– or that ‘the Nazis made sausages from dead Jews
– or that ‘the Germans used delayed action gas which allowed Jews to walk to the mass graves’
– or that ‘the Germans exterminated Jews with A-bombs’
Want some more?

you said in a silly childish rant:
“You obviously don’t have the bare minimum of what would be considered basic human intelligence…”

– You’re projecting again. I certainly have enough to make a fool of the likes of you.
Cheers.

Even your “know-it-all” CODOH is embarrassed by the case of Lidice. No much material for “revisionism” here :

“…For the first time in several months I have found a massacre during WWII, that I have trouble making a counter argument for…”

Source: CODOH, Lidice Massacre/Reprisal.

And then the writer and his commenters show that they have no substantial arguments to refute the official story of 340 murdered people of Lidice (192 men, 60 women and 88 children). Such great “humanitarians” were those Nazis!

Since I was called out I take the liberty to reply with the caveat that I will be speaking for myself owing to the fact that the others mentioned did not commission my services as their spokesman.

Let me get to the point, among others you wrote:

“(…) by boldly stating generalizations that are not true as if they are well-known by all (…) They do the same with the rest of the article, but so far they haven’t disproved a single bit of it. Study their comments and you’ll find there is nothing there but words going around in circles, mixed with put-downs, finger-pointing and diversionary tactics. Never PROOF of anything.”

A demonstrable falsehood you wrote as replying to your assertion that the only known mass grave of Poles was the work of the Soviet Red Army, led by the NKVD, in the Katyn Forest in Soviet Russia I pointed out specific locations where mass graves with Polish victims of German mass executions were located, though admitted I made a spelling mistake there as it is Palmiry and not Palimiry. That does not change the essence of the matter one bit.

Proof of the above is provided by volumes of documents with photographs of exhumations which if you have any doubts about you should check first hand in the archives. Likewise you could visit the gravesites of the victims for many were exhumed, examined and subsequently given a proper burial as well as resting place after the war. When I was researching a number of modern history issues I did so at a considerable expense in time, effort and last but not least money. That is what researchers do – if that is beyond you capacity your are not a researcher and hence have no basis to write with authority on those subjects. Neither have you any basis to question the veracity of documents. Again if you question them file the relevant paperwork with the archives storing them requesting access. It may be a bureaucratic hassle but since the said docs are not classified access should be granted. To make it easier for you: at the request of the German government Poland handed over a considerable number of documentation regarding German war crimes, hence they are in German possession and should be available in Germany. Once more: when writing authoritatively about a subject and questioning available evidence you should first examine the said evidence. Obviously you did not do that but you still can – better late then never.

Concerning put-downs: when discussing a previous article of yours you resorted to put-downs and denigration of a commentator who provided you with numerous well sourced information and quotes. Having read that I decided to give you a mild taste of your own medicine. You asked for it and you got it – enjoy.

Lest I forget: when it comes to generalizations, trolling and diversionary tactics have you not, for example, make half-witted attempts at irony when asking what does the ‘general public’ know about mass graves? Accusing others of what you do yourself perhaps?

Thus far I had my doubts whether you are that ignorant in regard to matters you write about or are deliberately spreading falsehoods.

Now I know it is both, since you have repeatedly demonstrated ignorance (no mass graves – right?) and in addition in your last post you again wrote falsities as I have just laid out a few paragraphs above.

What surprises me a little is that you write statements which are obviously false as can be seen by just scrolling up a few comments. From reading your previous ‘works’ and comments I knew you were not the sharpest tool in the box but I did not realize it was that bad.

Regarding your comments about nauseate: I could write about butthurt German losers who are left with no other option but resorting to lying, however that would amount to dropping down to your level which means really low.

For the record: I do not hate Germans or any other nation. What I hate – that is maybe to passionate – what I strongly dislike are ignorant trolls who deliberately spread lies doing that with an aura of baseless self-appointed authority.

Let my finish by this: luckily for you I have a busy life outside of the internet. That was the good news for you, here come the not so pleasant: I will continue to occasionally take the extra time to call out your falsities. You have been warned.

Thanks for that interpretation. They weren’t regulated – I don’t know if that means that they were explicitly “legal” if that was never stated. There were customs of warfare which were never spelt out but understood. If we go by that, we could say that massacring civilians for no reason at all was also “legal” until somebody decided to “ban” it. But yeah I know, the Allies firebombed Dresden, and nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki doing precisely that, although they could also say it was in retaliation for crimes of the Axis.

Remember that the Holocaust of the Six Million Jews is not a claim that that many died, were lost, were killed, disappeared, were buried, or anything else. It is a claim that they were murdered by Germans.

You are a lying little Jew. You claimed I was “Albanian” even after I clearly said I was not, that I was a Croat (anyone himself can witness the truth of that by going through his or mine history of comments). I am probably twice (or more) the size of those little Albanians, who are more genetically related to your Habiru or Apiru or Hebrew kind than they are to me. You are very similar physically. My skin is white, which means it is pale, and not of Kurgan Indo-nomadic model which are nothing but fantasies and lies similar to those stories about “how we all came from Africa.” This is just a communistic (eastern) version of the same liberal (western) propaganda. In liberal story “we all came from Africa” while in communistic one “we came from Asian steppes.” Europeans did not come from Asian steppes. Only nomads did, and those were vastly of Caucasian racial stock (only a handful and mostly in ruling class were of Asiatic race). Lie and deceit is in your blood, little rat. The fact that you would spew lies so obviously and try to make a fool of me by lying to me while simultaneously insulting my intelligence too, speaks volumes about your intelligence. You cannot deceive me, little rat. But know this: I am not like those western Europeans whose nature bends them to suffer, I will rip your throat out given chance. You made a mistake thinking you could spread bullshit on me the same way your kind does with western and northern Euros. You cannot, for I will destroy you.

OK; so?

The issue of mass graves of German POWs is simply taboo, just as the allied bombings – with the difference that the bombings could not be denied altogether.
I have myself heard elderly people wisper about the Rheinwiesenlager, and it is something that you would have heard about in most general terms (though I believe that with todays generation that knowledge is next to non-existent).

It is the point that I have been trying to make here repeatedly: Soviet/Russian crimes against Germans are today pop-culture, while anything that has to do with crime by Angloamericans has been erased from memory.
Taken that between Russians and Germans there definitely was an issue to fight about, which there hardly was between Germans and Angloamericans, I understand that Russians today are pissed off by the Western highhanded approach to WWII history.

What is more, is that the misstreatment of prisoners and the bombing of civilians for terror have been the characteristics of the war that really pointed towards the future of warfare.
If the crimes by the Western Allies became common knowledge, our western culture would break down from self doubt.

You can best see our physical and temperamental resemblance by going through our historical characters of renown, our Roman imperators. We came to prominence in the Imperial Army via our brutality, discipline and loyalty as well as physical strength. Perhaps we are of Spartan origin, for Spartans were Dorians and Dorians came to Peloponnese from mountanous regions of our Haemus Mons peninsuae. Albanians are physically, behaviorally and temperamentally very similar to Georgians and Armenians (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_Albania), and they could have never served as centurions or bodyguards of the princeps for they are of small statue. 1.6m in height. Luckily they are brutal too. I like that. That and loyalty are the only traits which redeem them, else I would have called for their extermination too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illyrian_emperors#List

Rat, Aryans were of Iranian racial stock. They were your Apiru, Habiru or Hebrew related people. Those people didn’t grow past 1.7m. 1.7m was considered as big among them. These is Aryans in appearance:

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This is what Arianism is:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arianism

Teachings of priest Arius.

If you were Doclean, you wouldn’t think or express yourself in foots, nor is 2 meters in height average in Dioclea or Montenegro as you put it. Nowhere near it. 1.8m or slightly above. You are just a lying deceivah. Probably freemason for we all know how widespread freemasonry is in Merica. There are no cultures with Serbo Sarmatians, you masonic filth ought to quit fantasizing about our share culture with Sarmatians. Sarmatians have shared cultural and other ties with Apirus, for they are Aryans. We are not Aryans. Aryans belong to central Asia, not on Haemus Mons peninsulae or Anatolia.

No I do not think so!!!!!!!!!!
Nobody in reality can be so stupid as these two, Carolyn and Fox.
They are not genuine. They are fakers. They want to ignite hatred between Slavs and Germans.
They are well payed CIA agents.

Pannonia is where imperator Diocletian settled Dacian tribes. Read Roman Antiquities, book XXVIII, Ammianus Marcellinus. It is clearly stated that Dacian tribes were transferred from Dacia to Pannonia. Dacians were the people that once lived in the lands your Romanians today live and populate. What Slavs in Pannonian origin? There were never any Slavs south of springs of Vistula and Odra rivers. From there Slavic lands stretch to the east, not south. There was active Slavic Church, the same was other priests and churches have spread themselves teachings and converting foreigners, so too did Slavic Church teach Slavic language and religion.

The Jews don’t matter… to God; (They killed His Son) to Whites; (Jews are turkic Khazars) or to Christendom (because, they are apostate Deicides, and forever excluded from the Kingdom).

“… the passage suggests rabbinic willingness to take responsibility for the execution of Jesus.
No effort is made to pin his death upon the Romans……. Jewish apologetics that “we could not have done it” because of Roman sovereignty ring hollow when one examines the Talmudic account …
(“Jesus in the Talmud,” Steven Bayme, American Jewish Committee National Director, Professor of History at Yeshiva University, September 24, 2003)

“Christianity is our only real enemy since all the political and economic phenomena of the bourgeois states are only its consequences,” Rakovsky, says. (All page citations from Griffin, Fourth Reich of the Rich, 1988, p. 264)
– Christian Rakovsky (born CHAIM Rakover in 1873) was a veteran Communist insider 

“The Jews have a right to subordinate to themselves the rest of mankind and to be the masters over the whole earth. This is the historic destiny of the Jews”
Harry Waton, A Program for the Jews and an Answer to All Anti-Semites (New York Committee for the Preservation of the Jews, 1939), pp. 99-100

And ANYONE who says,’But the Jews are fellow human beings!’ has never read or understood the MINDSET of those who follow/revere the Talmud, the CODIFIED WRITTEN TESTAMENT TO THE YID’S CONTINUAL COMPLICITY in crimes against humanity- and I quote: “‘One million Arabs is not worth one Jewish fingernail…’.”

Cry me a river. DEATH TO THE JEW WORLD ORDER.

I will rip your throat out given chance…for I will destroy you.

Yeah, sure FAGGOT…

I already told you that I fly to Europe regularly…and that I would be willing to meet you in person…all you need to do is go to my website and leave a message for me there…but you are too chicken…

As for where people came from, you are an uneducated homosexual idiot…so I could care less about your grade-school ideas here…

Well, there it is. Operation Barbarossa was just a defensive measure to stop Germans being overcharged by Slavs. Or Jews.

Your comments prove to a certainty that you badly lost the contest of who is intellectually superior to a brain dead imbecile.

A German student who was in America confided in you that he really loved Hitler…?

Yeah, no…I don’t think so…

I think it’s much more likely that he was going along with you because he could see you were a bit off…

So did you talk him that enables you to declare I lied about the content of our conversation or did I?
Who is in a better position to know what he said. And why do you suppose he was moved to a different town to prevent me from further influencing him about the real America if he was only giving lip service to me but fell for the party line about how great America was. Were that the case, he would have told the family he was living with about how off base I was, and he would hav e simply avoided talking to me. But no, they forced him to leave to keep us apart.

Your assessment of this situation is proof positive you lost that contents about being smarter than a brain dead imbecile by miles.

Next, you clearly also exhibit a comprehension problem because I never indicated he said he loved Hitler, but that he was proud of how the Wehrmacht fought for Germany. Indeed it was he who proudly brought to my attention how Marseille’s 158 RAF kills were so much higher than anything they achieved against the Germans. And to be very clear, Rudel indeed stayed completely loyal and loved Hitler to the very end, and neither Hartmann nor Galland ever bad mouthed him as you claim a Luftwaffe pilot who you knew long after the war did.

If he ever said it, it was simply to curry favor with the occupier.

Actually, your delusional phantasies about how the Germans you knew declared their opposition to Hitler reflects your total incomprehension that they had little choice when dealing with anyone associated with the occupation army. What did you expect them to do – shout Heil Hitler in your face when doing so was illegal under the occupation statutes and the de-Nazification process Germans had to go through to get “rehabilitated” and be able to work, and when the Basic Law the Germans adopted after the Western zones were joined was enacted under the thumbs of the allies who only granted Germany partial independence while retaining overall control over their government.

I did notice that rather than actually rebutting any of the direct issues I raised about the delusional nature of your assessments and descriptions about what people told you, you resorted instead to ridiculous name calling that merely exposed your true intellectual capabilities.

Now crawl back into the slime pit that apparently is your habitat as evidence by the absence of any coherent thought in your comments.

I think you are not looking at the right ‘pie’ symbols on the map…here it is again…

There are four ‘pie’ symbols on the territory of former Yugoslavia…they appear to be over Slovenia in the north, Croatia in the West, Serbia in the East, and Bosnia in the middle…

All of them except for Slovenians have I2 as the most dominant haplogroup…I already mentioned this one in my comment to Jazman above…its the one that is linked to tall males…and better known as I-M170…

Slovenians are the only Yugos who have the ‘Slavic’ R1a as the most numerous haplogroup, at 39 percent…that means that 39 percent of the TESTED population came up showing that as the dominant Y-DNA…the Y being the ‘who’s your daddy’ chromosome that only males have and is passed down patrilineally…

So based on this particular map [and this may be dated as genetic testing is increasing exponentially in recent years], the Slovenians are the only nationality in the former Yugo that are ‘predominantly’ Slavic…

Croats are next at 22 percent…Serbs are only 16 percent and Bosnians 14 percent ‘Slavic’…

All three have higher I incidence than R1a…again see my comments on the I haplogroup…this is actually the most widely spread haplogroup throughout Europe and is thought to be the ‘old’ Europe according to the Kurgan model…ie this genotype was what was in Europe before the Aryan R1a [Slavic] and R1b [Celtic] spread from the area of today’s southern Russia and spread quickly across Europe, subjugating the old Europeans by means of their having the horse and the wheel and the axe…

It’s important to note that genetic testing on the archaeological excavations of the Yamna culture and its subsequent Corded Ware offshoot found both R1a and R1b but no others…so this is where the Indo-European language as well as the dominant gene for Europeans came from…the fact that these people living 5,000 years ago in southern Russia domesticated the horse and invented the wheel is what gave them the means to spread far and wide and conquer as they went…

Now you will notice that all four also have the Celtic R1b to some extent or other…again, the Slovenians have the most, the Bosnians the least…so in the case of Serbs, for instance, if we combine both R we get about as much as the I incidence…

So if we go by genetics, then Slovenes are the most ‘Slavic’ of the South Slavs, Croats are next and Bosnians are the least Slavic…

But it is important to keep in mind that the three European haplogroups [R1a, R1b and I] are widely distributed among ALL European populations…

For instance the R1a is not shown as being very common the farther West you go in Europe, but in fact many well known individuals and groups belong to that haplogroup…

This includes a lot of folks in Iceland, Scotland and other places where there is a strong a presence of the Norse branch of the ‘Slavic’ R1a gene…you can see that R1a is also strong in Scandinavia on the map above…in Iceland, which is not depicted here, R1a is actually the most prevalent haplogroup…

Some well known individuals who are R1a include Nikola Tesla, Tom Hanks, Anderson Cooper, the Swedish actor Max von Sydow and King Willem-Alexander of the Netherlands…[who is from the House of Mecklenburg, which I wrote about earlier as being founded by West Slavs]…

Even Benjamin Netanyahu is R1a, belonging to the Persian branch…

The other Aryan hapologroup R1b is likewise found among many famous people from wide geographic distributions…this includes Tsar Nicholas 2 of Russia…former US presidents Lincoln and Washington, Copernicus and Darwin…

The way to know which ‘who’s your daddy’ haplogroup you belong to is the one that comes up as dominant on your DNA test…

The Potempa affair predated Hitler coming to power but was eloquent as to how Poles would be regarded. Potempa was a hamlet in Silesia, in the summer of 1932 Silesia was a battleground between the Nazi Party and its opponents, against the background of a national election. Also conflict between Germans and Poles existed. One night in August five SA members broke into the home of Konrad Pietrzuch, a Communist sympathiser and ethnic Pole, and beat him to death in the presence of his mother. One account says they poked out one of his eyes with a billiard cue. They were arrested and sentenced to death, but Hitler proclaimed his solidarity with them, saying that in the Third Reich no five German men would be condemned because of one Pole. The death sentences were commuted to life imprisonment and Hitler released them from prison in March 1933. The only real punishment for some of them was fate – one of the five was killed while fighting on the Eastern Front in December 1941, and a second was posted missing near Kharkov in July 1943. Killing a Pole hardly counted as a crime at all in the Third Reich.

So you are distinguishing “true facts” from “untrue facts”? Good boy.

Swabian, Bavarian, Low German, Saxonian, Alsatian, Tyrolean, Vienna German, etc. are also not “recognized as official languages” in your sense; they are not taught in school, there is no agreed upon way of writing them but they are widely spoken. They are local dialects, versions of Germans which represent slightly different languages and are the vernacular of the people. They have some differences in grammar, sound rather different from standard German, so that a Northern German would not be able to understand a Southern German (including Swiss German) and vice versa, but all speak standard German, even with different intonations, and all read and write it.

The Sorbs probably don’t have grammar books in their language but they can and do speak it in their everyday affairs. In church they probably use it also. That’s different from forbidding the use in public, getting perhaps beaten up by chauvinists, as happened with the Germans under Polish rule, or forbidding sermons in German, also done by the Poles.
The important fact is that the Sorbs are still there after a thousand years living on a Sorbian island in the Germany Sea, having good relationships with their German neighbors and vice versa, while the Germans under Polish and Czech rule were eliminated within a mere 25 years in the staggering numbers of 18 millions.
Who would you conclude from this fact has the will and ability to live in peace with his neighbors?
I could give you a hint, but I let you make an intellectual effort on that one.

Ryan Dawson and David Cole discuss the Shoah.

https://brandnewtube.com/watch/davis-cole-returns_Yozv8cJlDah4tp9.html

A “reprisal” is a breach of international humanitarian law, which would otherwise be unlawful but in exceptional cases is considered lawful as an enforcement measure in response to a previous breach of international humanitarian law by the enemy, with the purpose of terminating the enemy’s violation.
https://casebook.icrc.org/glossary/reprisals

While reprisals are now broadly banned since 1949, it was part of the law war before. Indeed, check Eisenhower’s directive about reprisals should Germans shoot allied soldier after the German surrender.

Actually, how else except by reprisals can combatants compel their opponents to adhere to the laws of war if they violate it. Shooting prisoners is illegal. The British shot German soldiers they captured during the fighting around Dunkirk. What were the Germans going to do – file a law suit to punish the culprits? That’s absurd. What’s the alternative? Tell the British they weregoing to shoot a like number of British prisoners. Since the Germans then had more POWs than the Brits, that would undoubtedly get their attention.

Simply put, the law of reprisal is a quid pro quo. You do this, and I’ll do that if you ignore the laws of war.

It works. But only as long as you have the force to apply it. That’s what keeps the oppposition honest. The US govt, imagining it is the top dog, entirely ignores the laws of war knowing full well that it need fear no reprisals from those it murders who lack the capacity do inflict it. Just imagine howe rapidly things change when the worm turns.

– So now you like CODOH. Good for you.
– You quoted from
Lidice Massacre / Reprisal: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12195

For the first time in several months I have found a massacre during WWII, that I have trouble making a counter argument for…”

Well, no sh-t. Most people when they read the propaganda about it are initially troubled. That is the intention of propaganda, to create a false impression.

– But then you ignored what ELSE he had to say, like:

– “I do not believe the Fairy Tale that the children of Lidice were “Gassed” for reasons discussed in other threads on this website, which makes me question the Validity of the rest of the massacre. Especially the part about how “Every Last Man” was supposed to have been shot and killed.
– “All the points you have made here are valid”.

– There is no proof that children were killed and as I stated, and you ignored:

As strange as it may seem, retaliation was allowed under international law [Geneva].

It’s also revealing that you nor any of your fellow True Believers ever mention the mass murders of civilians / children by the Allied ‘partisans / terrorists’.

you said:
“And then the writer and his commenters show that they have no substantial arguments to refute the official story of 340 murdered people of Lidice (192 men, 60 women and 88 children). Such great “humanitarians” were those Nazis!”

– Which is another lie, again, the commenter under discussion said “All the points you have made here are valid”. And there are plenty of “substantial arguments” in that thread, i.e.:

– Reprisals were legal in WWII, the Allies engaged in them as well.

– The Lidice event has been grossly exaggerated and manipulated : the numbers alleged, no one was sent to Auschwitz, only men were executed, no one was gassed (there were no gas chambers).

– Like anything which can be twisted to comport with the false ‘holocaust’ story, the propagandists reveal their desperation when try of insert the Lidice reprisal into their impossible narrative.

– Then of course, the propaganda claims that the alleged “children” were dumped into a mass grave … which cannot be shown.Yep, now we’re back to the article under discussion.

– Franklin Ryckaert, another bumbling Zionist that tries to cherry pick, but then gets burned on it.

You already said that, but you never contacted me. I gave you my mail. I don’t care for your website, little rat. You said a year ago you would come and meet me because you “fly regularly,” but you never did. Good for you that you “forgot” about it. You saved yourself from some broken bones. Now beating grandpas is not usually something I would be proud of, but we can make an exception in your case. You asked for it, not me. If you really want some beating, you can find my address in the commentary history and I will come. Crazy boomer gramps asking for beatings. Hard to believe, but this is how unstable, erratic and bizzare world becomes when libtards have their way. Perhaps there is some erratic traits in Jewish mentality which are seeping into their works. You can never avoid that.

nonsense about Stettin and Breslau being German place names

Of course, they are, in spite of your ravings about fictional Slavic history.

Talk about a ‘poor rebuttal’…😅

I provided quite a bit of REFERENCED and completely FACTUAL historical material in my comment #182 above…

You simply waving that off as ‘fictional Slavic history’ doesn’t mean diddly…if you care to actually debate the facts about the Slavic foundation of much of Germany then I will be happy to oblige…and will wait eagerly to see any actual ‘evidence’ that anything I said is in any way ‘fictional’…

Please give actual documentation of when, how and where these 82 children were murdered. I think that is usually required when such claims are made.

This is what it means to be a sick Nazi…to be a monster that attempts to justify the killing of innocent children…but fortunately for the decent people of the world, these beastly crimes of the Nazis were all meticulously documented…

There are literally many books about Lidice and the children murdered by your sick Nazis…starting in 1942 with Edna St Vincent Millay…

You are insulting many decent people everywhere…

Three flagpoles were dedicated at the Lidice Monument, Phillips, Wisconsin, USA, on the occasion of the 70th anniversary commemoration of the fall of Lidice.

The flags of the United States of America, Czech Republic, and Slovakia fly together over the Lidice Monument at Sokol Park, a symbol of unity and friendship, through the efforts of the Phillips Czechoslovakian Community Festival Committee. The Rose Garden at Lidice flourishes with varieties of roses from all over the world.

Lidice: Remembered Around the World

It’s nothing less than disturbing that earthworms like yourself [a crusty old hag who should at least have learned some decency by now], attempt to deny such massively documented facts…

When news of the Lidice massacre broke, the international community responded with outrage and a promise to keep the town’s memory alive. A small neighborhood in Joliet, Illinois, adopted Lidice’s name, and President Franklin D. Roosevelt released a statement praising the gesture: “The name of Lidice was to be erased from time,” he said. “Instead of being killed as the Nazis would have it, Lidice has been given new life.”

In the English district of Stoke-on-Trent, Member of Parliament Barnett Stross led a “Lidice Shall Live” campaign and raised money for rebuilding efforts. Artists further immortalized the tragedy in works including poet Edna St. Vincent Millay’s The Massacre of Lidice.

The Lost Children of the Lidice Massacre

The fact is that those handful of children of Lidice were just a drop in the ocean compared to the vast Nazi murders of children, which numbered in the hundreds of thousands…

Once the war began, “Nordic”-looking children were kidnapped from families in the conquered lands and subjected to “Germanization.” Meanwhile, hundreds of thousands of “bad blood” children—Jews, Gypsies, Poles, Ukrainians, Russians(were separated from their families and condemned to forced migration, slave labor, sadistic experiments, starvation, and mass execution.

At the end of the war, uprooted children of every origin wandered the bombed-out cities and countryside, some having been taken from home at such a young age that they did not know where they had come from or even their own names. Millions surged into and out of DP camps, exploited by political and religious groups, while the Allies and the fledgling United Nations tried mightily to put families back together and to find new homes for the orphans.

Cruel World: The Children of Europe in the Nazi Web

It takes a special kind of sadist to justify crimes against children…

If you had bothered to do actually research in your touristy travels in Poland and Czechia you might have talked to ordinary people with memories of the war…they could have told you about the many children that died at the hands the Nazis…

The extermination of ten to thirty million ordinary people was in fact planned for by Hitler and his maniacs…see the Hunger Plan…

You are simply a disgusting old Nazi hag…you would creep out any normal person if you tried to bring this kind of Nazi glorification up in any kind of company, including ordinary folks in Germany…

– Seriously, the words “reprisals were not regulated by the Hague Land Warfare Convention” are confusing too you?

– The fact that such executions were made illegal in 1949 means that prior to 1949 they were legal, otherwise there would have been no need to change it.

– Your comparisons to Dresden, Hiroshima, etc., while no doubt a massive war crimes, are not really relevant here. We’re talking about civilians engaged in partisan / terrorist activity for which international law allowed executions.

– You challenged to me to present the relevant international law, I did and spoon fed it to you. So now you try to weasel / spin your way out.
Man up Mike, it’s OK, you got nailed.

The crap this boomer grandpa rat regularly spews is astounding. Those stories are fiction. They were just made for political purposes, as they always are. Slavic is cultural designation, you decrepit ignorant old fool. Do you know what cultural means? It refers to language and religion and in broader spectrum to traditions, customs, attitudes, beliefs, folklore, laws, mythologies, practices, et al. That is what term Slavic refers to, not genome. Go watch CNN or plug yourself to Disney channel, gramps. Or give yourself some beatings. It might be helpful if it manages to wake you up. Beatings can wake people up, it’s not just a form of punishment.

nonsense about Stettin and Breslau being German place names

Of course, they are, in spite of your ravings about fictional Slavic history.

Yeager, you have been warned! Do not LIE your LIES will be called out swiftly!

Der Name Stettin ist slawischer Herkunft. Ursprünglich lautete er Stetin, so in Urkunden aus den Jahren 1140 und 1123. Ab dem 15. Jahrhundert kam es zur Verdoppelung des zweiten „t“, die bald allgemein üblich wurde und zum Ortsnamen Stettin führte. Die Stadt wird im Mittelalter unter anderem als Stetin (1133), Stetyn (1188) und als Stityn (1251) erwähnt. As can be easily checked in the https://www.wortbedeutung.info/ portal.

BTW the Thomas Kantzow Chronik von Pommern also points to a Slavic origin of the name.

As for Breslau:

Nach dem böhmischen Herzog Vratislav I. benannt. (check worterbedeutung.info)

About the said Vratislav:

Der Vratislav I. (* um 888; † 13. Februar 921) war ein böhmischer Herzog von aus dem Geschlecht der Přemysliden / Vratislav I (* about 888; † 13. Februar 921) was a Bohemian duke from the house of the Premyslides.

Much about Slavic origins of geographic names can also be found in Archäologie der westlichen Slawen by Walter de Gruyter

I have no time to call out all the falsities you peddle but I manage to find enough to expose YOU as a LIAR – again.

Thus another warning: do not LIE you WILL be exposed.

I repeat: DO NOT LIE – YOU WILL BE EXPOSED!

Are you willing to let go your past and assimilate into something anew? Tens of millions of Germans have done just that. Look at North America and Australia. We can have Imperium Romanum resurrected if there is political will for that. Constantinople is waiting to be liberated after centuries of desecration from the central Asian Turkish Islamists. Thracia is still waiting to be liberated. Bythinia also. Lydia, Lycia, Galatia, Phrygia, Paphlagonia, Pontus, Mysia, Troia, Ionia, Isauria, Caria, Cappadochia, Cilicia and Pamphylia. These are no Germanic lands, but all Germanics (and Celts and Slavs) can be assimilated into their inhabitants. It can house more than 18 million. There will be other lands oversees, but Germanics need to learn to play as a team. German is just a figure and Germania just a single land in that imperium.

According to authors of the article Poland population was 29.89 milions.

An important chart

There exists an important Polish population chart. It marks a pre-war Polish population of 29.89 million people,

All who are interested in reality please find the link to general census dated 9.12.1931 for Poland
Polish official documents including french translation.
More than 32 millions citizens in Poland counted 9.12.1931 This was year 1931 not late 1939 when war started so the number of 35 millions in 1939 is quite reliable. Also this documents can not be fixed/altered because they exist in other countries archives.

https://www.britannica.com/place/Poland/The-Second-Republic

Data source
https://spis.gov.pl/en/Index

http://statlibr.stat.gov.pl/exlibris/aleph/a22_1/apache_media/CPCSQBMLUTKY85SF12DRMVA51UYU8V.pdf
http://statlibr.stat.gov.pl/exlibris/aleph/a22_1/apache_media/D2UYXD6MLBJBRQTBQYKVY9MF4NMD7F.pdf
http://statlibr.stat.gov.pl/exlibris/aleph/a22_1/apache_media/9J23TJCH1YC67FKGFQ45EC1E98D38F.pdf
http://statlibr.stat.gov.pl/exlibris/aleph/a22_1/apache_media/925BD4QMPVE4BSRQ3I1ST2RX3AFEDF.pdf
http://statlibr.stat.gov.pl/exlibris/aleph/a22_1/apache_media/U1A3CJNPG56ESE3IQFVA48SIVN1G98.pdf
http://statlibr.stat.gov.pl/exlibris/aleph/a22_1/apache_media/VCFLIP7QTUQFYVR69SGQQGB1Q9XIKP.pdf

I really hope Carolyn Yeager will not say that polish authorities predicted the war and made up the numbers in presented general census dated 9.12.1931.

I did learn that in school 75 years ago ..
Concerning these names of the cities. I did have a map of Czechoslovakia issued in Germany.
All names of the cities were Germanized.
Looks like Germans do have some kind obsession of renaming cities.
Nothing this have any relevance.
Only relevant thing for me that now I do know that you you are agent provocateur.
You are no German. I do know Germans. Germans do not speak and reason like you.
You are impostor CIA agent.

I wonder if he ended up with intact testicles.

I just realized that now would be a good opportunity to enjoy some good music.

All of those lands can be restored to shine again like they did before nomadic plagues from central Asia hit them and defiled them with cultures and people who do not belong to that part of the world. Thracia, Bithynia, Troia, Aeolia, Ionia, Lydia, Lycia, Caria, Cilicia, Paphlagonia and Pontus are bewitching marine lands. Inland lands have their magic too. Their history goes back thousands of years. Central Asian Turk has been defiling them for centuries. Our duty is to reclaim and restore that what was taken from our civilization. We must destroy the Turk.

Because Carolyn Yeager is clearly missing some information I have prepared a list of foreign links and authors ( because Polish or Russian are not good for her as she clearly stated in her comment )

Dieter Schenk Germany
http://www.dieter-schenk.info/publikationen.html
He is an author of the book:
Hitlers Mann in Danzig: Albert Forster und die NS-Verbrechen in Danzig-Westpreussen (German Edition)
Albert Foster was responsible for organized murders at Las Szpęgawski and exhumation documents were included in the trial documentation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Forster
Albert Forster was condemned to death by the Polish court for war crimes (the Supreme National Tribunal) and crimes against humanity in 1948. During this trial were present Russian , American , British and French consuls.

The Gentile Holocaust
Craughwell, Thomas J. (Sursum Corda!, Summer 1998)
https://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=472

Christ in Dachau by John M. Lenz

Forgotten Holocaust: The Poles Under German Occupation, 1939-1944 Revised Edition
by Richard C. Lukas (Author), Norman Davies (Foreword)

http://www.normandavies.com/author/?lang=en