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The implications of this decision are profound, as military sources reveal that Putin believed he had secured assurances from both Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that Russian military bases in Syria would remain safe under their control. However, the Russian General Staff had reservations, cautioning that Erdogan and Netanyahu could not be fully trusted. They warned that without a robust Russian military presence, both Turkey and Israel might expand their territorial control at the expense of Syrian sovereignty, particularly in crucial areas near Damascus and along the coast.
As Russia's position in Syria unfolds, the Kremlin has attempted to frame its actions as protective of its strategic interests, particularly regarding its military bases. Foreign Ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova emphasized that Russia's priority lies in safeguarding its citizens and assets in Syria. However, her statements hinted at a lack of a concrete agreement for maintaining military presence, suggesting that negotiations with Turkey regarding safe passage for Russian forces were ongoing. This precarious balancing act illustrates Russia's attempts to navigate complex relationships with both its traditional allies, like Iran, and regional adversaries.
Furthermore, there are emerging discussions within military circles about potential future Russian naval operations in Libya, should the situation in Syria necessitate a retreat from its bases. This strategic consideration highlights the fluid nature of international alliances and military deployments in the region. The Kremlin's recent decisions have sparked debate among military analysts and commentators about the long-term implications for Russia's credibility and influence in the Middle East. Some view Putin's calculated accommodation of Israel and Turkey as pragmatic, while others warn that it may undermine Russia's standing with allies like Iran and China, potentially leading to a reevaluation of its strategic objectives in the region.
## I. Introduction
A. Overview of Russia's military strategy in Syria
B. The significance of President Vladimir Putin's decisions regarding Syrian support
C. Context of the illustration depicting power and military action
## II. Putin's Decision on Syrian Defense
A. Timing of the decision
1. Decision made at least two weeks before Turkey's military actions
2. Personal communication of the decision to Bashar al-Assad by December 6
B. Initial discussions with Iranian leadership
1. Urgent call from Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian to Putin on December 2
2. Agreement on support for Syrian authorities but with conditions
## III. Conditions of Russian Support
A. Limitations imposed by Putin
1. Russian anti-aircraft units would not defend against Israeli attacks
2. No engagement of Russian ground forces against Turkish incursions
B. Assurances received from Turkey and Israel
1. Belief in security for Russian military bases at Tartus and Khmeimim
2. Pre-condition to avoid encouraging Iranian reinforcements
## IV. Concerns from Russian Military Leadership
A. Warnings from General Staff and GRU
1. Distrust in Turkish and Israeli commitments
2. Risks of territorial takeover by Turkey and Israel
B. Security Council’s limited engagement on the topic
1. Only one open meeting discussing Syria on December 5
2. Kremlin's narrative of loyalty to allies despite challenges
## V. Official Kremlin Stance
A. Communication from the Foreign Ministry
1. Emphasis on protecting Russian citizens and property in Syria
2. Indication of no definitive deal for military bases
B. Multinational negotiations proposed
1. Involvement of Turkey, Iran, Gulf states, and UN representatives
2. Need for restraint from all nations involved
## VI. Responses to Regional Developments
A. Russian Foreign Ministry’s position on Israeli actions
1. Call for international community responsibility
2. Ongoing analysis of the situation in Syria
B. Lack of direct criticism towards Erdogan's role
1. Diplomatic language emphasizing respect for foreign leaders
## VII. Strategic Discussions with Turkey
A. Putin's call with Erdogan on December 3
1. Urging Erdogan to halt terrorist aggression in Syria
2. Erdogan's refusal to comply with Russian requests
## VIII. Predictions of Military Control Zones
A. General Staff’s interpretation of a partitioning strategy
1. De facto division of Syria into military control zones
2. Concerns about the inability to protect Russian assets
## IX. Reactions from Chinese Leadership
A. Dmitry Medvedev's visit to Beijing
1. Attempt to reassure President Xi Jinping
2. Xi's emphasis on de-escalation and maintaining strategic principles
B. Chinese acceptance of Russia's commitments
1. Assurance of no surprises undermining the alliance
## X. Potential Future Developments
A. Speculation about Russian naval base relocation
1. Possibility of shifting operations to Tobruk, Libya
2. Challenges in gaining acceptance from regional leaders
B. Moscow's perspective on Putin's strategic choices
1. Favoring Israel and Turkey over Arab and Iranian interests
2. Comments on the Kremlin's propaganda and strategic alignment
## XI. Internal Military Dynamics in Russia
A. Exchange of military strategy for operations in Ukraine
1. Acceleration of missile strikes against Ukrainian targets
2. Anticipation of military responses to US actions in Ukraine
B. Monitoring of General Staff's reactions to military developments
1. Potential for increased military engagement in response to provocations
## XII. Conclusion
A. Summary of the complexities surrounding Russia’s military strategy in Syria
B. Implications for Russia’s credibility and future alliances
C. The ongoing evolution of military and diplomatic relationships in the Middle East
The illustration of power coming out of the barrel of a gun is from a comic book. Contemplating the reality of Russia’s position in Syria, no one in a position to know believes in cartoon captions, the credibility of the gun, or the direction in which the horse is now running.
Military sources in Moscow have told a tale of President Vladimir Putin’s decision not to defend the Syrian Arab Army and the Damascus government of Bashar al-Assad. That decision, the sources claim, was taken at least two weeks before the Turkish break-out from Idlib began on November 27, and was conveyed to Assad personally by December 6.
It had been hinted at four days earlier, on December 2, when Iran’s President, Masoud Pezeshkian, made an urgent telephone call to Putin. In principle, the Kremlin announced, Putin and Pezeshkian agreed on “unconditional support for the efforts of Syria’s legitimate authorities to restore constitutional order and maintain the country’s territorial integrity.”
In practice, there was a Russian condition. Putin told Pezeshkian that Russian anti-aircraft units in Syria would not operate against Israeli attack and defend the Iranian air bridge to Khmeimim for the troops and arms which Assad had been requesting urgently, and which the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps was ready to send. Putin also told the Iranian President that Russian ground forces and artillery would not engage Turkish forces moving southward, and would not bomb them from the air.
By the time Putin and Pezeshkian were speaking, after days of the closed-door debate with the General Staff, Putin believed he had the word of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that Russia’s principal military bases at Tartus and Khmeimim would not be attacked and Russian forces not threatened. Their pre-condition was that Putin would not encourage or defend Iranian reinforcements.
The General Staff and GRU warned Putin that Erdogan and Netanyahu could not be trusted, and that without Russian military force to deter them, plus Iranian troops, they would take over Syrian territory – the Turks down the coast to the Lebanese border and to Damascus; the Israelis across the Golan and the Quneitra buffer zone into the southern outskirts of Damascus.
The Security Council met openly only once with Putin during this debate – on December 5. The official communiqué does not report that Syria was discussed.
“Russia does not betray friends in difficult situations,” was the line the Kremlin told the Foreign Ministry to instruct its diplomats to announce after Assad had landed in Moscow on December 8, adding the footnote that “a deal has been done to ensure the safety of Russian military bases.” The Ministry spokesman, Maria Zakharova, did not go so far. “Our number-one priority is ensuring the safety of the Russian citizens currently residing in Syria, and protecting Russia’s property and its diplomatic, military and other missions,” she said.
Zakharova was signalling there was no deal for the bases short of evacuation from Syria, with terms of safe passage still to be negotiated with the Turks. The camouflage for this is a multinational negotiation the Foreign Ministry is proposing for Russia, Turkey, Iran, the Gulf Arab states, and the United Nations special envoy for Syria.
Asked what reaction Russia has to the Israeli occupation of southern Syria, Zakharova said: “it is incumbent upon all members of the international community, especially neighbouring nations, to exhibit restraint and an elevated level of responsibility by refraining from actions that could provoke further deterioration of the situation in Syria.” Asked what role Israel and the US had played in the invasion and military coup in Syria, she replied: “The situation is being analyzed. There will be even more facts qualifying what happened in Syria.”
Zakharova was not asked for the ministry’s assessment of the part Erdogan had played. Instead, she said: “Our country respects the leaders of friendly countries, maintains dialogue with them and develops relations with them.”
The Kremlin record of Putin’s direct telephone conversation with Erdogan on December 3 claims Putin told Erdogan he should agree “to stop radical groups’ terrorist aggression against the Syrian state.” Erdogan, who initiated the call, didn’t agree.
The General Staff understood Putin to believe that he had the agreement of Turkey, Israel and indirectly of the United States for a de facto partition of Syria into four military control zones, like Germany following Adolf Hitler’s suicide in Berlin on April 30, 1945. The General Staff warned Putin that Russian military capacities in the bases would be too weak to enforce his verbal exchanges with Erdogan and Netanyahu; that a Russian control zone around the bases could not be protected from a forced evacuation; and that if Putin agreed to this, he was risking the destruction of Russian credibility with strategic allies, Iran first of all, then China.
Ex-President Dmitry Medvedev was then sent to Beijing on December 12 to explain and assure President Xi Jinping. Xi has not been reassured. The General Staff messaged Putin, “We told you so”. Now read on.
In the Chinese communiqué of the Xi-Medvedev meeting, Xi’s line was reported as “the need to uphold the three principles of no expansion of the battlefield, no escalation of fighting and no provocation by any party, to promote the easing of the situation as soon as possible.” The communiqué also reports the Chinese as accepting Medvedev’s assurance that there will be no fresh surprises to undermine Russia’s promises of strategic alliance with China. “The Russian side will unswervingly implement the consensus reached by the two heads of state and promote strategic coordination.”
A hint is surfacing in the Russian military blogs – endorsed by the GRU-linked reporter Yevgeny Krutikov — that if and when the Tartus naval base is evacuated by the Russians, an alternative naval base arrangement may be made at Tobruk in Libya.
Source: https://t.me/corpsafrica/579
BBC, the British state propaganda organ, is also reporting the possibility of a Russian fleet redeployment to Tobruk. It is unlikely that Erdogan, Netanyahu, or the incoming Trump Administration will agree to the reinforcement of the Russian military position in Libya.
A well-informed Moscow source comments there is no surprise in Moscow at Putin’s decision-making to favour Israel and Turkey at the expense of the Arabs and Iran. The source also warns that the surprise expressed by Anglo-American podcasters who support Putin in the Ukraine war “reflects their readiness to say what they believe the Kremlin wants to hear – with or without reward.”
An accurate guide to the Kremlin propaganda line right now, the source indicates, is a Moscow-based American academic named Andrew Korybko. He has turned the General Staff’s warning upside down, defending Putin’s decision to accommodate Israel and Turkey in Syria as reflecting the realistic military balance in the Middle East right now. “Putin is a proud lifelong philo-Semite,” Korybko says, “who never shared the Resistance’s unifying anti-Zionist ideology, instead always expressing very deep respect for Jews and the State of Israel…Russia dodged a bullet by wisely choosing not to ally with the now-defeated [Arab-Iranian] Resistance Axis since it would have needlessly ruined its relations with Israel, the undisputable victor of the West Asian Wars. Putin made the right choice, which was always driven by his rational calculation of what was in Russia’s objective interests as a state, not due to ‘Zionist influence’.”
“This is toadying,” the Moscow source comments, but indicative. “The toad is giving voice to those who think, plan, decide. He is giving the clearest official line on it all.”
A Moscow military source suspects that Putin has “traded” with the General Staff, exchanging the evacuation of the Russian bases in Syria with permission to accelerate missile operations against the regime in Kiev, against US and NATO planning and operations units in the Ukraine, and intensification of the electric war in Kiev, Lvov and western Ukraine. The source adds that the test of this “trade” will be whether the General Staff launches strikes over Friday and Saturday in retaliation for the resumption of US-Ukrainian ATACMS launches on Wednesday night against Taganrog.
ATACMS missile part photographed at Taganrog on Wednesday evening, December 11. The Russian Defense Ministry reported that six American-made ATACMS missiles were used in the strike. “This attack by Western long-range weapons will not remain unanswered, appropriate measures will be taken,” the Ministry declared.
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Putin is a Noviop (see Galkovsky for the definition of the term). Regardless of what the Western nationalists, conservatives and traditionalists would blindly like to believe, Putin has always staunchly opposed Russian nationalism and pan-Slavism. In fact, one might argue that Putin’s years in office have driven the last nail in the coffin of that ideology. RusFed is being swarmed with hordes of Muslim migrants, Caucasus ethnic groups are given access to Russian glubinka hinterland, something that never happened before. Islam is on the rise in RusFed, while only 2% of ethnic Russians attend church services on a regular basis. Jewish interests, including the (Caucasus) Mountain Jew interests, are protected in Moscow and according to Pavel Pryannikov (who is himself half Jewish), at least 50% of the Moscow political tusovka is of Jewish descent. RusFed is not a Russian nation state. RusFed is not historical Russia. Those who think otherwise just make fools of themselves.
@John Helmer, quoting Andrew Korybko:
Countries are only supposed to look after their own interests, I do not see how sucking up to Israel is in Russia’s priority-interests or in any way in their interest at all.
This [= leaving Israel ‘free’ to continue down criminal pathways] puts great doubts on Mr Putin’s claim to ‘faith’ [in Russia’s religion = Orthodox Christianity]; *not* ruining Russia’s relations with Israel [= historic alien invader, then illegal squatting upon ex-mandate Palestine, currently attempting to genocide all hapless Palestinians within the jews’ reach] appears to me to be the shortest possible route towards ‘hell’ for any ‘believer’.
Russia ended in 1918. What followed was not and is not Russia. Russia is long dead and buried. Noviop maggots are chewing up on the corpse of a formerly great country with a deep history and a unique version of Eurasian civilization. Eastern Slavs are going the way of the Dodo bird, lead by the usual suspects. But from the historical perspective, they are just a few steps ahead of the globalized West which is also headed toward the dustbin of history. The future will not be shaped by people of European descent. We had it all and we squandered it all in petty minded conflicts and ideological grandstanding.
Tobruk would be a funny troll of the British. Oh yes, and Aussies.
And the jews are not Slavs-Russians but alien outlanders…So I guess that red-coat shit Darwin was right, it is the survival of the fittest or most ruthless.
We squandered nothing, we were subverted from the inside, and will not let it happen again.
Once those who want to be left alone to live their lives realize they are needed once again, and the time is now for reclaiming our freedom, the evil that exists will be exposed and dealt with.
Recall the hubris that exposed Kamaltoe and her crew of liars.
That hubris is multiplied when considering world events, and they who want to rule over us all will expose themselves.
Vladdy is betting on it.
That is historically factual, and history repeats.
Fittest doesn’t necessarily mean the most ruthless, but yeah Jews didn’t have any presence on historical Russian territory between around 1113 (first anti-Khazar pogrom in Kiev) and until the Pale of Settlement was abolished after the Russian Revolution. That’s more than 800 years.
The only ethnic Jews who had the right to settle in the Great Russian land were either converts to Christianity, highly educated specialists that had academic degrees or Merchants of the 1st guild.
It wasn’t the case in modern day Ukraine and Belarus where Jews were allowed and even encouraged to settle under first Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and then under the Romanovs’ rule. That’s why most today’s Russian Jews trace their roots to the Pale of Settlement in Poland, Ukraine, Belarus, the Baltic states etc. They mostly are a postmodern product of the archaic Shtetl mentality.
BTW, the so-called Russian Mafia was originally heavily influenced by Odessite Jewry. A very large proportion of the Vor thieves’ cant was in fact Yiddish in origin.
Perhaps you could take a minute and translate
– noviop
– tusovka
– glubinka
for us, instead of expecting people to hunt down those on the internet? It’s not easy as you may think.
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I find Putin The Toad hugely disappointing.
Putin knew the state Assad’s army and economy were in .It was not an epiphany. He must have known it for a while . It is entirely possible he agreed to enter into Syrian defense to put pressure on US . He did to extract from West a mechanism that will enable him to get out of Ukraine war that favors Russia’s geo-political interests. This explains the non-delivery of crucial air ,missile, defense supports to Syria and Iran and also explains prevention of Iranian troops anywhere near Israeli borders.
Iran knew it but he had no alternatives but to accecpt the restrictions. Russian readiness to sanction Iran in the past squares perfectly with this pro-Israeli ,anti-Syrian behaviors . Ghaddafi should have relayed this to Iran and Basher Assad .
The rapid collapse of Syria under HTS and destruction of Syria by Israel will reverberate within Russia, and outside including in Ukraine, India, Vietnam, Sahel region and Venejueala .
More than Uighur, its Chechenya and Dagestan ,that might start unravelling .
If Russia were ready to bail on Assad,why did not it approach HTS in tandem with Turkey ,Qatar and Saudi? HTS is no more of a terrorist entity than Israel or US is. Russia could have asked HTS to refrain from sectarian killimgs in exchange for economic and mikitary supports and coukd have asked Turkey not to offer supports to Ukraine .
Russia’s behaviors in regards to Syria smack of utter contempt for Arab, smacks of desperation and opportunism. Global south knows now that it misplaced its faith on Russia – a white country who is seeking to join the white club. To the white ultranatiinalist who kowtow to Jew- from Robinson, Patterson, Bannon, Tulsi Gabbard, Kash Patel to La Pen and Obran– Putin is their guy . But those who love humanity,love European achievement, respect the traditions of Jesus, and acknowledge the suffferrings of Lebanese,Palasetenians ,Syrians and hope for a revival of white european culture and vakues- Putin is a Chabad -Israeli- sucking impotent person.
Noviop = derived from Russian Новая Историческая Общность – New Historical Community (of Soviet people) that is people who let go of and betrayed their ethnic, religious and cultural identity. Oftentimes intermarried with other ethnic groups, especially Jewish.
Tusovat’sya = a slang for to hang out with. Tusovka = a bunch of people that are usually interacting closely with each other.
Glubinka = from glubina – deep. Glubinka = deep country/ hinterland, flyover country as opposed to Moscow/Peter/Sochi etc.
If you don’t grok the above mentioned concepts, you probably won’t understand current RusFed sociology. If you find it tiresome to look it up on the web, then perhaps trying to learn about Russia is not for you. And yeah, RusFed is a shorthand for Russian Federation. Historical Russia has never been a Federation, it became a federation under anti-Russian Bolshevik internationalist rule and it stayed a federation under post-Soviet Noviop control. Those who discuss current Russian politics as Russian in an ethnic or cultural sense don’t understand what they are talking about.
I’m guessing that, although you are most likely Russian, you are not an Orthodox Christian?
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Seeing that you know so much about the current political septic tank called Kremlin, what is your explanation for such extreme passivity and timidness of Putin? I mean, he does not not even defend Russia’s territory. Thank you in advance for your insight.
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Aside from that, recommend this blog [1] for everything Russia, SMO, Putin, etc.
[1] Substack Articles Archive – The Slavland Chronicles | Rolo Slavskiy / Rurik Skywalker
https://slavlandchronicles.substack.com/archive?sort=new
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Russia has always been that mystery wrapped in an enigma, and even more so now. Now you have a situation whereby Jews (Zelensky) are killing Russians in Ukraine, yet Russia refuses to touch a hair on this particular Jew’s head, while at the same time Russia is protecting Israel, a country of Jews, in the Middle East. Jews cannot be one’s friend and one’s enemy at the same time, yet for Russia this is now indeed the case.
During the reign of the Tsars, Russia’s confusing actions could at least be labeled as pro-Christian or maybe even pro-Slavic. During the times of the USSR Russia’s actions could be labeled as pro-Communist. After the Syrian fiasco Russia’s actions can now only be labeled as pro-Jewish.
Yet the Jews will always be anti-Russian, their Talmud insists on Jewish supremacy and the necessity to destroy anything non-Jewish to ensure Jewish supremacy. Russia is now even friends with the Turks, even though historically the Turks have always been Russia’s enemy, an enemy protected by the West during the Crimean War. So its all very confusing right now.
Lets wait and see what happens in Ukraine, whether Russia capitulates to the Jew Zelensky there or not, in the interests of peace of course. The USSR surrendered without using the endless weaponry in its arsenal, but the USSR didn’t have the food to feed its people, as evidenced by all the USSR’s food imports from the USA. Right now Russia has the food to feed its people as well as enough weaponry to give a good account of itself, and is actually using those weapons a little bit. So lets wait and see what happens in Ukraine. History is not made by the cerebral, history is made by those who wipe their enemies out. Just look at all the problems Russia is having now because they didn’t wipe out all those Banderists after WW2. If the Jews can wipe out all the Palestinians in Palestine, which is happening right now, then Russia can wipe out all the Banderists in Ukraine.
Putin may have been turned when he was a KGB agent in Berlin. He was selected by Yeltsin to be Yeltsin’s successor. Yeltsin was a traitor to Russia. Ignore his rhetoric, look only at his actions. Putin does just enough to appear to be patriotic, to avoid being deposed by the military. Putin set up Syria for failure, either because he was very naive, or more likely, he chose to support Erdogan and NetanYahoo.
Thanks for clarifying those terms.
Why should you make your comments hard to understand for non-Russians, which is majority of TUR audience? How does that help you make a point? Especially with terms that have easy and clear English equivalents. Looking up is time consuming and people do not have time.
Based on your explanations:
Noviop = godless West-loving Russia-hating Russians
Tusovat’sya = buddies
Glubinka = flyover country
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Gradually more involvement in Syria would have meant a Vietnam on Israel’s border.
You gotta know when to fold em.
Well, I don’t see too much of your “petty minded conflicts and ideological grandstanding”, rather I see the jews controlling USA attempting [undeserved] world-hegemony [via mass-murderous bullying, corrupt regime-changing, etc.] and the jews in ex-mandate Palestine totally unjustifiably executing mass-murdering genocide for spoil, and that since at least nakba#1, 1947 and continuously until now.
Going to the theme of Mr Helmer’s two headline articles, it is Putin who has cast himself fully into the deepest, filthiest shit, by appearing to have not just tolerated the jews’ horrendously vile criminality, but actually having helped the jews = making himself accessory to ultimate war crimes, starting with aggressive alien invasion, progressing to illegal occupation = immoral squatting upon hapless native Palestinian land/property.
The BIG Q: Can Putin ever recover/rehabilitate himself? rgds
No, they’re more than that. They are the equivalent of what Shafarevich calls малый народ – the “lesser people” in his Russophobia book. Lenin was a typical Noviop: German, Swedish, Ashkenazi Jewish and Kalmyk roots. Hardly anything Slavic about him and yet considered Russian for some reason (just like the Georgian-Ossetian-Caucasus Jew hybrid nicknamed “Stalin”). A large proportion of higher ranking Bolshevik were not ethnically Russian, perhaps that is why the early Bolshevik regime has favoured the creation of this type of ethnocultural Métis group through the earliest known form of affirmative action in human history. We have to remember that Communism is always Internationalist. Calling USSR Russia is demonstrating a deep misunderstanding of the social and ethnic context of that era. If you had a mixed background, with some Jewish roots thrown into the mix, you were nearly certainly socially advantaged in Moscow compared to some ethnically homogeneous Slavic ethnic Russian person.
Given this social advantage, the Nomenklatura circles ended up being heavily populated with these Noviop people and Soviet elites were not ethnically Russian most often than not. They were mostly of a mixed ethnic background with a substantial Jewish admixture. Then the corrupt Nomenklatura people intermingled with the corrupt KGB and organized crime (which is also heavily influenced by different ethnic diaspora groups) in the decade or so after the fall of the Soviet regime.
These folks are the ones that are called Noviop nowadays. A typical example: Ksenia Sobchak, Jewish, Ukrainian, Russian roots. An elite intellectual dad of Ukrainian or Balarussian descent with probably some Jewish ancestry, a typical Noviop half-Jewish / Russian Russophobic mother who hates and despises everything culturally Russian despite being a RusFed senator for many years. A lot of undeserved influence for the daughter who was snorting cocaine at the young age of 15 in the 90ies Banditskyi Petersburg and has a sexual relationship body count of hundreds including one of Gaddafi’s sons. This somewhat flawed human being was the “protégée” of Putin himself who worked for her dad and even helped smuggling him out of RusFed when Sobchak the father was accused of corruption. Of course Putin actually protected himself, because he was the most corrupt member of the Sobchak team in Saint Petersburg receiving the envelopes for his politically influential boss.
Ksenia Sobchak is seen as the typical “Liberal” Noviop. But Margarita Simonyan of RT fame, with her Armenian roots, is the “Patriotic “ Noviop type. So it’s not about political affiliation, it’s about cultural identity. The Noviop are acutely aware of their non-Russianness, they are actually oftentimes proud of it. Even though they might pretend otherwise to fool the non-elite Russian public.
I’ll take the Noviops then. Since I live in a part of the world that is prone to war and violence it would be stupid of me to be antiwar, I try not to be prowar. I can appreciate people who lament the passing of the old or true Russia, but that which is left over still needs to survive, Putin is good enough.
The country I live in is part of BRICS, so I hope for a growing experience for the blacks, but I have little confidence in our government, also a lot of the people here don’t inspire confidence. I sort of get a feel for the white Russian through the experiences of my own people. If Afrikaner is like Noviop then Boer is like Russian. One is a means to survive in a modern world, and one is true to its nature, but sidelined. Afrikaner is globalized Boer.
A relic from white empires:
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Helmer’s source is focusing on credibility, whatever that is, while the current policy looks like resource allocation and maneuver. Why not get out of the way of this clusterfuck and do something useful?
Trump’s got an analogous interaction with the war apparat. He could face down Russia, whatever it takes, for credibility, or he could say, “This Hohol clusterfuck is not my clusterfuck, this is CIA’s clusterfuck, you guys fix it.”
CIA DO is stirring shit up all over trying to dissipate Russian forces. Why should they play along?
Putin was a young global leader of the World Economic Forum while working for Sobchak. Before that in 1988, he might have also been a BND double agent mole in the Dresden KGB office. Deep shit is where that rat climbed from to power. The ideological grandstanding and petty ethnic wars I was referring to are the World Wars and the Cold War that the globalist elites have currently reanimated in the Killing Fields of the Eastern Ukraine. All wars are (((Bankster))) wars. On both sides of the Atlantic Ocean, the financial power belongs to the same Cabal. The White Light of the humankind is dwindling. Darker ages are coming for our World. They killed the Flame because the rats preferred darkness.
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Sorry; I don’t ‘do’ Leonard Cohen (because hallelujah). Kindly try again – no hard feelings.
Quite possibly.
Inarguably. BUT: I thought Putin was for Russia, for the people, for justice. Those thoughts are superseded by Putin’s apparent treachery. I don’t think its ‘Noviop’ so much but that he’s a crypto jew. Absolute disgust!
Now I don’t think that Mr Putin can save us from the jews’ depredations – BUT somebody must, or the whole world is lost.
I had a friend from Schwabia: “Es ist ein Scheiss, weißt du dass?!”
Putin’s German translator lover in Dresden, with whom he had a kid behind his wife’s back, was later revealed as a BND agent. She was exfiltrated to Federal Germany before she gave birth. She stayed on good terms with Putin and his wife up until his transfer to Moscow from Saint-Petersburg. There were rumours about Putin having transferred microfilms in a matchbox to a BND agent in a Dresden park after the fall of the wall and before going back to USSR.
I agree that Jeff Buckley’s version of Hallelujah is more refined than Cohen’s original.
Survival is slightly overrated. One has to distinguish form, substance and essence. Once the essence is lost, substance follows. The empty forms are recycled but their existence is oftentimes meaningless.
What’s a good source/reading about Putin’s early days?
Helmer always dodges questions about Putin and his past. Understandably so…
Yields what grade of shit?
Scheiße bleibt Scheiße!
A lot of these comments are uninformed, guess work and speculation/projection. I’m an expert on divining weak, deceptive assertions, statements, and declarations. One tell is the over simplification of a complex or constellation of factors, actors, and vectors. Another is the use of trite jargon, e.g., “globalized”, “Fascist”, and runaway and tangential analogy or metaphors.
This Syrian situation is as complex as one can imagine, with many players, some overt and some covert. Many players have changed their outlook, support, and allegiances. To say, a range or set of actions emanate just from Russia’s actions or non-actions, or that Iran’s position is changed due to betrayal, requires deep knowledge that only a very small number of people qualify. Thus the question that emerges: why are there so many BSers on here. Poseurs, Great Pretenders.
Deep knowledge means someone with a residency within that “space”.
“Adolf Hitler’s suicide in Berlin on April 30, 1945.”
Adolph Hitler didn’t commit suicide in the bunker, he and Eva Braun escaped to South America, he lived to about 1970.
https://conspiracydailyupdate.com/2016/07/31/hitler-escaped-to-argentina-died-old-pictures-of-him-after-the-war-fbi-documents-dna-analysis-of-skull-pictures-of-his-house-alternative/
Well, your comment qualifies indeed as an utterance made by a poseur. So I agree with you that some commenters here do fit into that category. The rest of your comment is vague verbiage and I don’t feel like trying to make sense of it.
“The country I live in is part of BRICS, so I hope for a growing experience for the blacks”
You may hope eternally for the blacks, but their genetics will always work against them. They will always need a more advanced race to hold their hand, to help them survive in a world that has advanced far beyond their intellectual ability.
https://starcom68.livejournal.com/1951935.html
Use Google Translate if you don’t read Russian.
In English a glimpse of who Putin is would be this:
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Just being a good neighbour, I would not curse even people I may hate for no reason. Whites mostly do our own thing anyway.
I’ll admit it. I like Putin. He came to power when Russia was almost a sucked orange. He has turned the situation around and Russia is now a serious world power. The oligarchs (9 out 11 top oligarchs being Jewish at the time) were robbing billions. The only effective organizations were criminal. The life expectancy had fallen 7 years. The economy was less than half of what it had been. Nobody paid their taxes. The oligarchs are still there but greatly restrained and with the sanctions have to keep their money in Russia. The Russian military has been reinvigorated. It is winning the war in the Ukraine however slowly and unimaginatively. It has been held back by having to be always ready to deal with a NATO kinetic entrance. It did learn to realize the effect of US satellite intelligence and how to deal with the new drone warfare. Yes, it could have militarily defeated Ukraine easily in 2014 but its economy was not prepared to resist Western economic warfare like being thrown out of Swift. Instead Russia took back Crimea without firing a shot. The initial 2022 SMO invasion of Ukraine was not intended to conquer Ukraine but mostly say Russia was serious about Ukraine not entering NATO and protecting the Russian speakers. Also to get an agreeable negotiated settlement which Britain and the US said no to, causing the death of hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian males. The Ukraine is close to being a failed state. In hindsight it was slow in not immediately enlarging its forces. This allowed the effective counterattack in Kharkov and Kherson. Notice how different was the debacle of the Ukrainian counterattack in 2023, It settled into a successful grinding war of attrition. Russia’s economy is doing fine and has actually benefited from the sanctions while Europe (especially Germany) has shot itself in the foot. I do not like Putin’s letting Israel do whatever it wants. Pragmatically I can understand not giving Palestinians support but do not like it. Lately the West has been successful in getting Imran Khan out of power in Pakistan and regime change in Bangladesh. It has let a pro Western leader come to power and retain it in Armenia. Turkey revamped the Azerbaijani military and helped them use drones to defeat Armenia. Yet Pashinyan stayed in power. Russia did respond quickly and effectively on the regime change attempt in Khazakstan but not with Syria. A significant loss but nothing like that of the Syrian people or Hezbollah. Belarus held its own against regime change and Georgia is doing likewise. As in the Chinese folklore tale, “good news. bad news, who knows?”
Thank-you for the information. Confirmation will be if Putin takes a loss, throwing away the Ukraine victory Russia has won. Trump wants a ceasefire on his inauguration day, just over a month from now. If Putin accepts Minsk 3, with “peacekeepers” from NATO countries, and Ukraine is allowed into NATO after 10 years, we will know he is a traitor to his country. If Putin tries to pull that stunt, hopefully the Russian military revolts. If Putin tells Trump to fuck off, then we can conclude Putin is ok, but just very inept. The only peacekeepers allowed in Ukraine should be UN peacekeepers. So this is obviously just a ruse by Trump to save Zelensky’s bacon. Trump is bloviating crap.
Thanks!
Putin cannot be inept to such a degree. I doubt that it is common stupidity, especially that he comes off as a rather clever man. In November 1916, the Constitutional Democratic party ’s leader Milyukov has termed his famous pre-revolutionary speech: “Stupidity or treason ?” In the case of the franc-mason Milykov we had both the treason of the monarchy and the outstanding stupidity of thinking that abolishing monarchy in the midst of a most brutal war was a manageable task. In the case of Putin, stupidity is in my opinion out of question. Rebuilding post-Soviet Russia and making it into a functional and even affluent society was a manageable task, it was made unmanageable by Putin and his clique. I call it treason.
Good input, thanks.
Is any country the same or highly similar from now to then? Grade: F
“Noviop” was listed by the author in an other comment as an item in a lexicon. Its use here is mentioned in the manner of “Naive Realism”, which means giving something a name validates its use and imputes meaning and rotational value. Here the author just babbles, as in a wimpy bar with other schlubs.
White is the combination of all colors of the spectrum. It therefore is “neutral”, being all while simultaneously being “nothing” or null. Such is the weight and meaninglessness of the above statement. Sounds profound, but is actually profane, as meaninglessness intersects with untruth. Hence ugliness.
Another iteration, a priori absurd and preposterous. Association does not even imply immersion or membership. I attend a KKK meeting out of curiosity. People know about this [I make no secret], and then insist that I am a supporter and member of the KKK.. This appeal is to the undiscriminating lumpen, who sometimes looks and talks superficially above his abillity and attainment.
I would say that among those of learned, cognizant, and depth of knowledge of military, economic, and cultural observation of Russia in the last two centuries, this opinion is so miniscule that the sources are usually belligerent towards Russia [No. 1 = United Transnational Jewish World Dominance and Control, Inc], and irrational ideologues meeting regularly at the wimpy bar, The Subterranean Creeper.
Boris Yeltsin made Putin director of the Federal Security Service (FSB; the KGB’s domestic successor), and shortly thereafter Putin became secretary of the influential Security Council. Yeltsin, who was searching for an heir to assume his mantle, appointed Putin prime minister in 1999.
Although he was virtually unknown, Putin’s public-approval ratings soared when he launched a well-organized military operation against secessionist rebels in Chechnya. Wearied by years of Yeltsin’s erratic behavior, the Russian public appreciated Putin’s coolness and decisiveness under pressure. Putin’s support for a new electoral bloc, Unity, ensured its success in the December parliamentary elections.
Putin easily won the March 2000 elections with about 53 percent of the vote. As president, he sought to end corruption and create a strongly regulated market economy.
Putin quickly reasserted control over Russia’s 89 regions and republics, dividing them into seven new federal districts, each headed by a representative appointed by the president. He also removed the right of regional governors to sit in the Federation Council, the upper house of the Russian parliament. Putin moved to reduce the power of Russia’s unpopular financiers and media tycoons—the so-called “oligarchs”—by closing several media outlets and launching criminal proceedings against numerous leading figures. [ N.B: Russia is one of the very few countries where the power of oligarchic money is almost nil. Oligarchs exist at the the pleasure of the Siloviki, the power elite of hardline, super patriots, and a high percentage of ex-military]
There’s more “exactly what a filthy sayanim Hasbara would say,” triple drivel from you about Russia and Putin. It is exclusively anti-veritas and fabricated lies. Maybe you are a sworn Russian Establishmentarian like a leftover Communist, bitter and brittle. Perhaps you are just another foppish, academic flipper. Who picks a target that makes him by contrast look and feel useless.
Speaking of which, how useful are you? What have you done in life that has demonstrated ability, wisdom, accomplishment, overcoming adversity, proof of character? Huh? Just giving professorial lexicons and identity of historical artifacts does very little to further the readers of UNZ understanding and knowledge. Your contribution of words is quantitative, i.e., profusion, buy qualitatively, you have set very little of practicum and exposition.
You really have nothing better to do?
But thanks for the effort.
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Of course I do. But exposing you as a humbug, fraud, and agitprop machine that grates my nerves, motivates me.
I love two things here:
1/ The constant censorship. The ‘moderator’ must aither be the midget Anglin or some kind of totally frustrated old fart who hates everything and everybody .
2/ I love the euphemism:” . “Putin is a proud lifelong philo-Semite,”
It’s nicely put to hide the sad reality…
Putin betrayed Syria to save the zionist occupiers after their utter defeats in Lebanon and Gaza.
Putin also betrayed Iran and his general staff, pretending he got some ‘deal’ from backstabbers like netanyahu and erdogan while he has nothing except a vague promise by Trump for a sordid exchange: Syria vs Ukraine (see below).
Netanyahu can send Putin a big fat gift for Christmas for having saved his ass and israel after their utter defeat in Lebanon and Gaza.
Although I doubt Putin celebrates Christmas…
This article describes how Russian leaders since Lenin have all been Jewish, including Stalin, Eltsin and Putin.
https://fitzinfo.net/2021/04/22/jewish-dominance-from-the-ussr-to-todays-russian-federation/amp/
While the article provides sources and links to prove many points, it fails to prove that Putin is a Jew.
Most of the links regarding Putin are either broken, have disappeared, are in Russian (with no translation of course) or impossible to load.
Therefore the assumption that Putin is a Jew is flimsy at best, however it is true for many other high ranking Russians like Lavrov.
Putin might not be a Jew BUT since when zionist shills need to be Jews to serve “israel’ before their own country?
Just look at Biden, Bush, Trump, Starmer, Macron and lame duck Scholz, none of them are Jews but all serve israel before their own countries.
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By the way, the Resistance confirms that Russia betrayed Syria and Iran:
https://english.almayadeen.net/articles/blog/the-trap-of-diplomacy
“IRAN DIDN’T ABANDON ASSAD. IT APPEARS THAT AN UNDERSTANDING WAS REACHED BETWEEN TRUMP AND PUTIN TO TRADE UKRAINE FOR SYRIA. ”
If Putin is naive enough to believe the US will keep any of their agreements, he really has nothing to do in power.
Well, make yourself happy then. 🙂
I believe you are a Jew who hides behind the Stalin-like accusations of the other. While you are sniffing others’ asses, give yours a snort. Don”t forget to investigate your cat and dog for cryptic Jewishness.
Putin is ALWAYS caught with his pants down. His rule is reactive and rarely proactive. Worse, he trusts politicians in the Jew-owned West. Most unforgivably, Putin has allowed the Christians of Syria to be massacred. He allowed the Jews to bomb Iranian military positions in Syria. Putin should have given his best anti-ship missiles to Yemen and thereby given the Jew-owned government navy ships a taste of their own medicine. He should have given S-400s to Syria and Hezbollah. Putin trusted the Jews and the Turks even though Jews are instinctively and genetically treacherous and Erdogan has betrayed Russia several times in the past few years. I say it’s time for the Russian military to overthrow Putin and put a president in power who is not such a naive, Zionist idiot.
@Poupon Marx
I believe you are a complete idiot and a total parano who sees hidden mossad agents behind every logical thinking. Don’t forget to wash your dirty mouth full of insults and brush your teeth like mummy told you.
Putin betrayed Syria because he is a zionist puppet (or even a jew) like Trump and all other western jewish bitches. He’s paying today as his pimps are now bombing Tartus.
Putin also betrayed Russia and the useful idiots like @Poupon Marx who thought that he would deliver the world from international jewry.
Sorry to break it to you “poupon”, but nobody comes to save us, we will have to take the kikes down ourselves.
Does mummy know that you frequent adult forums?
Putin could have EASILY prevented all of this, if he just went all in, in 2014.
But he didn’t.
Instead he has stood by on the sidelines, while organized jewry executed a successful regime change, thus allowing the enemy the time needed to prepare Ukraine for the coming war.
As for Syria, it is irreplaceable for many reasons, it is not without good reason that BiBi called Syria a hub of hubs, having an ally there would have been of a massive strategically value to the Russians, it was the last true client state Russia had in the ME, furthermore Assad had for years refused to have a gas pipeline connecting Qatar to Turkey, and from there to Europe, thus giving Europe an alternative to Russia’s gas.
The Russians bases are still in Syria, FOR NOW!!
But they stay solely because the Americans permit them to, at any point, the savages that now rule over Damascus can be directed and supported by the Americans to hit them and Russia would have no recourse.
It looks like Putin is about to try to compromise too much in Ukraine. Putin seems to want to give up as much as he can get away with. Minsk never should have occurred, Putin should have been militarily supporting the separatists all along. Putin may have done Syria in, a betrayal. With the promise from Erdogan that he could keep the Russian bases in Syria. Having an air base and naval base in Syria is not of much use to Russia. If those assets were used to support Assad then they were beneficial in halting Israel. Putin never halted Israel air attacks on Syria. If we look at actions and not words, Russia may be supporting a greater Israel, as Israel adds land in southern Syria.
Those are the only warm water naval bases Russia had, the airbases were also smack down in the ME, which mean they could have been used as a logistical entry points to the rest of West Asia.
Turkey is an American vassal state, what Erdogan wants is of no consequence.
This is a fairly substantial set back for Russia, the loss of prestige in the eyes of his potential global south clients after bailing on his ally will also have a substantial albeit difficult to measure impact.
No one will want to throw their lot in with Russia, only to be left for the wolves once it is deemed convenient.