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One of the significant aspects of the current revolutionary madness sweeping the nation is the unrestrained assault on the cultural artifacts of Western Christian civilization. In effect the attack on monuments and the nomenclature of Army forts, schools and streets, and on so much more is emblematic of something more profound and irreparable, an assault on what those symbols signify.

In a broader sense, this assault portends a basic denial of the richness and nourishing fruits of our culture and what that culture has given us. For that denial goes far beyond visible symbols in copper and granite or in place names. We have seen this in the increasing demands for a Taliban-like “cultural cleansing” of our society. And thus the mounting attacks on our artistic heritage—on those works of art that remind us of what our civilization has created and, indeed, of its bounty, goodness and creativity that have helped fashion who we are as a people.

In this climate of nihilism the remarkable art, the superb literature, and the great classical musical heritage which have held us in delighted rapture, are being despoiled, even withdrawn from accessibility like the film classic “Gone With the Wind” (now no longer available via HBO video platforms). In some cases this has resulted in de facto or outright banning. And if a work of our heritage is simply too significant to be erased, then it will be re-cast and reinterpreted to support the revolutionary agenda.

Penalties are now routinely meted out to the guilty defenders of the two millennia of inherited Western culture. Thus, as we watch statues memorializing Confederate heritage destroyed and symbols commemorating Washington, Jefferson, Christopher Columbus, Father Junipero Serra, and others brought down, we also should understand that this vandalism encompasses far more: the abolition of the historic inheritance and rejection of twenty centuries of civilization.

The guardians of our patrimony may utter a mild demurrer, but more commonly, they accede to and go along with this radical transformation of Western culture. It is not as much for fear of being called “racist” or a defender of “male privilege,” rather, too many of our cultural elites are possessed of the same “wokeness” that dominates the streets, if a bit more rarefied.

The effects are particularly dramatic in performance music. Our musical expression gives voice to our joys, our sadness, our triumphs, our beliefs, and how we view ourselves; it is critical to our understanding of the civilization around us. Yet for decades there has been a constant effort to undermine and reshape that expression to fit a progressivist, post-Marxist mold and agenda. A concentration on race and gender is all-consuming. “Anti-racism” and “feminism” have become the benchmarks for this transformation.

Over the past half century and longer progressivists have been largely successful in restructuring what is sometimes termed “higher culture”—an appreciation and understanding of the role in our society of inherited art, literature, music, and architecture—and altering its relationship to most average citizens. When I was a boy, for instance, classical music was programmed regularly and popularly on commercial radio—the major local station at that time in Raleigh, North Carolina, WPTF, featured both the Metropolitan Opera broadcasts on Saturdays and a classical music program every night at 8 p.m. Network television offered us the long-running “Voice of Firestone” and “The Bell Telephone Hour.” Widely-viewed programs like Sunday prime time’s “Ed Sullivan Show” would feature Wagnerian soprano Birgit Nilsson and coloratura Joan Sutherland.

While many of my school chums from sixty years ago didn’t really get into classical music like I did, they at least recognized its significance and resonance in society, that it was an integral part of our inheritance, and that it surrounded and annealed and helped define our culture and made that culture more complete. Maybe they didn’t listen to the Met, but we all knew the themes from those popular TV programs like “The Lone Ranger” (with its use of Rossini’s “William Tell Overture”) or “Sergeant Preston of the Yukon” (with the “Donna Diana Overture,” by Reznicek). And who can forget Elmer Fudd belting out a cartoon version of Richard Wagner—“I killed the Wabbit!”

Today, it is niche programming on television and radio: cable channels dedicated to a specific interest, radio devoted to the top 40 hits and specialty music, or 24-hour talk. Classical music has completely disappeared from commercial radio and TV. And even classical performances’ relocation to public broadcasting thirty years ago, with its limited audience, is increasingly tenuous. Now when PBS offers a “great performance” it is more likely to be rock music from the 1970s or maybe some celebratory ethnic sampling.

The template today distorts that important element of our heritage and denudes us in the face of repeated assaults from cultural Marxism and its minions. The arts have become highly politicized, and classical music, now largely compartmentalized, plays a role in that process.

As Marxists Antonio Gramsci and Georg Lukacs explained a century ago, Western and Christian society—its hegemony”—could only be overthrown through patient development, the education of a class of cultural revolutionaries. And it was through a “long march” through the culture—in education, entertainment and the arts, religion—that the West would be defeated, not by force of arms.

The intellectual labor of the Marxist Frankfort School (situated at Columbia University after being expelled from Nazi Germany), and especially their influence in American collegiate education, literary studies, and use of “critical theory” to, first, devalue portions of Western culture and, then, totally re-position it as a handmaid of cultural Marxism can be widely debated. But the effects of their theories cannot.

Music is seen as an important vehicle for altering the culture. For Theodore Adorno, “the objective validity of [a musical] composition…rests with neither the composer’s genius nor the work’s conformity with prior standards, but with the way in which the work coherently expresses the dialectic of the material. In this sense, the contemporary absence of composers of the status of Bach or Beethoven is not the sign of musical regression; instead, new music is to be credited with laying bare aspects of the musical material previously repressed: the musical material’s liberation from number, the harmonic series and tonal harmony . . .”

One can argue that the most recent attempts at cultural “purification” have gone farther than anything Adorno or his cohorts of the Frankfort School would have envisioned or desired. Yet, the dismemberment of the corpus of our inherited culture and its ideologization could not have occurred, at least in the same way, had it not been for those earlier Marxist theoreticians and their followers.

Classical music in this narrative is too white, too masculine. Not only has it been de-emphasized in our schools and by broadcast media, but every effort has been made to re-interpret it, reconstruct it to give it a more politically-correct, less “racist,” less “white,” and less “oppressively male” character, both in how it is presented on stage and who does the performing.

Increasingly, there are those suggesting a form of affirmative action in how musical ensembles are formed and the musicians employed. “The status quo is not working [in employment]. If things are to change, ensembles must be able to take proactive steps to address the appalling racial imbalance that remains in their ranks. Blind auditions are no longer tenable,” writes New York Times chief music critic Anthony Tommasini. “[T]he audition process has to be altered to take into fuller account artists’ backgrounds and experiences.” In other words, race (and gender) should be major determinants in whether an aspiring musician gets a position in a musical organization or not.

This is especially pressing in opera where demands for more black and minority personnel—singers, staff, company board members—grow. And in particular there is hostility to whites filling black-face roles, such as Otello in Giuseppe Verdi’s opera of the same name, roles which have traditionally been assumed by the best vocalists and not based on race. In other words, a Placido Domingo who is white and whose Otello is one of his signature roles, would by this standard partake in racism. Indeed, Joshua Barone, again in the Times, labels internationally-renowned Russian soprano Anna Netrebko’s defense of the practice as “racist,” the eventual kiss of death for an artist.

But it is in public performance that revolutionary changes and restructuring are most apparent and culturally effectual.

There are literally hundreds of examples I could give, everything from the hyper-leftist “Eurotrash” presentations in opera, to the discovery of second (and third) level women or black composers who are now boosted by “woke” critics and global capitalist record companies as “the new Beethoven or Mozart.”

Let me cite a couple of recent examples that have caught my attention.

Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart’s comic opera of genius, The Abduction from the Seraglio, which playfully makes fun of Islam, was recently heavily censored and its lines rewritten by the Canadian Opera Company. For that production north of the border the company had some bright “woke” scribbler rewrite the dialogue “in order to remove racist and anti-Islamic language.” But, then, is it still Mozart?

And after years of patiently waiting to see a presentation of one of the more fascinating and significant operas of the first decade of the 19th century, Gasparo Spontini’s Fernand Cortez, originally produced (1809) to glorify the French invasion and conquest of “backward” Spain (it was later revised to reflect the 1815 triumph of the Bourbons), a decent video (on the Dynamic label) emerged this spring from the May Florence Musical Festival in Italy. It’s a fairly traditional, well-sung production—few of those “Eurotrash” touches that ruin so much of current musical and theatrical ventures these days. Yet, because Spontini glorifies (in some wonderfully heroic music) the conquest of Mexico and the conversion of the heathen Aztecs to Christianity, the director felt compelled to add a projected on-screen message both at the beginning and at the end basically condemning Western and white colonialism and racism. Nevertheless, the original libretto and music emerge, and I expect to see fierce condemnations of its revival as “racist” despite the cosmetic application of political correctness.

Indeed, there is an effort underway—incredibly—to make Ludwig van Beethoven into a black man. You see, as musicologist Brenton Sanderson has written:

Given Beethoven’s status as the archetypal musical genius, it is unsurprising that aggrieved Blacks have, since the early twentieth century, attempted to propagate the myth that Beethoven had some African ancestry. The basis for this spurious claim was the composer’s somewhat swarthy complexion, and the fact a part of his family traced its roots to Flanders, which was for a period under Spanish monarchical rule. Because Spain had a longstanding historical connection to North Africa through the Moors, a degree of blackness supposedly trickled down to the great composer.

But, given the nature of such tergiversation and the implicit (and unwanted) recognition of the superiority of the Western canon, the major effort of our cultural revolutionaries is rather to de-emphasize or even deconstruct the classical tradition altogether:

. . . such efforts [to appropriate the classical tradition] are self-defeating, merely serving to treat the Western canon as fundamental and all other styles as deviations from this norm, thus reinforcing “the notion that of classical music as a universal standard and something that everyone should aspire to appreciate.” Trying to make Beethoven Black and desperately scouring the historical records for examples of non-Whites who wrote symphonies is to accept “a white-centric perspective that presents symphonies as the ultimate human achievement in the arts.” Black musicologist Philip Ewell agrees, and advocates “overthrowing the existing structure and building a new one that would accommodate non-white music a priori—no reaching for ‘inclusion’ necessary . . . ”

This process is occurring likewise through the emphasis on gender and what is termed gender equality.

Thus, while we might acknowledge the genius of a Clara Schumann or Fanny Mendelssohn in the nineteenth century, increasingly we have such ventures as “Project W,” a collection of compositions, newly written by feminist composers, or the buzz surrounding the rediscovered music of black woman composer Florence Price (1887-1953) who satisfies both criteria: female and black.

Now, I happen to enjoy the music of Price. She skillfully integrates various folk themes and traditional melodies into her compositions (notably her several symphonies), somewhat like what Antonin Dvorak did with his famous “New World Symphony” (No. 9), with the use of the “Goin’ home” theme in the Largo movement.

But Price, for all her genuine musical talent and felicities, is not Dvorak. And although her output is colorful and musically entertaining, one wonders if she had been a white male would she be getting the same notice and present-day fame?

Indeed, such well-versed critics as David DeBoor Canfield in the prestigious Fanfare magazine (July/August 2019) admit that too many contemporary (and progressive) writers are “way over the top in finding her music to be superior to that of any of her contemporaries (including Gershwin and Copland).”

It’s not.

It is enjoyable and estimable in its own right, and I am pleased that it is being programmed and broadcast. But we do not have here another Aaron Copland or George Gershwin, much less a new Beethoven—who, if memory serves me, were white males and within the classical tradition.

The fairest evaluation of Price’s music I have seen came back in 2001, in the same venue as Canfield’s review but nineteen years previously, perhaps in less oppressively “woke” times than now when every word in every Twitter message is held up for severe judgment on its strict obedience to advancing progressivist norms. As critic Michael Fine wrote:

Her orchestral music . . . is workmanlike but rarely inspired. There are sweet and expressive moments, notably in the Grieg-like slow movement of the Third Symphony, but the music meanders excessively. Promising moments . . . never deliver. Her scoring is occasionally effective, mainly while setting traditional music such as Deep River in the Mississippi River Suite, but even here she offers few new insights into these remarkable melodies. The Mississippi Suite bears a superficial connection to Delius’s Florida Suite and Appalachia with its descriptive sounds of the river and riverbank life. Yet Price lacks the English composer’s genius and intuitive understanding of natural landscape’s musical shape.

That verdict could be extended generally to dozens of other composers and musicians who happen to be black or female, or perhaps transgender or lesbian. It represents a substantive judgment on the new template—the irresistible narrative—of the profession and what passes for intellectual thought on the pages of journals concerning the performance arts. And eventually it affects us all.

The overriding goal of the cultural revolutionaries in music is to utilize the musical inheritance of our civilization ideologically as a means to transform society. A new history must be created. In this narrative unfamiliar composers must be highlighted, others re-imagined or re-interpreted, not for the excellence of the composer or his or her works, but for the greater objective of power and cultural dominance in society. And some works, beyond the pale, must simply be suppressed. Gone from view, gone from memory.

Although I am certain that Florence Price, were she alive today, would be gratified by the attention she is finally getting, I doubt she would care for some of the reasons for it.

The post-Marxist nihilist revolution places our artistic heritage in peril, radically restructures our expression in the service of ideology. And as a result threatens to rob us of the beauty, richness, and grandeur of two millennia, and replace it with the barren straight-jacket and the ideological mentality of the Gulag Archipelago.

The battle for our cultural heritage remains to be fully joined. If we do not, we and it are lost.

Boyd D. Cathey was educated at the University of Virginia (MA, Thomas Jefferson Fellow) and the Universidad de Navarra, Pamplona, Spain (PhD, Richard M. Weaver Fellow). He is a former assistant to the late author Dr. Russell Kirk, taught on the college level, and is retired State Registrar of the North Carolina State Archives. Has published widely and in various languages and is the author of The Land We Love: the South and Its Heritage (2018). He resides in North Carolina.

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  1. xyzxy says:

    …we do not have here another Aaron Copland or George Gershwin, much less a new Beethoven—who, if memory serves me, were white males and within the classical tradition.

    A point of correction. Copeland and Gershwin were not ‘white’ within any classical tradition. The closest a Jew has come to creating interesting symphonic music was probably Mahler, who was distinctly derivative, certainly not top tier, and a composer who really needed an editor to trim his propensity for bombastic musical blather. The fact that he is well known probably has more to do with the men running record companies, the men and women funding orchestras, and the ethinicity of certain conductors than it has to do with his intrinsic musical worth.

    Jews have had better compositional luck in the popular field, show tunes and pop music. Nothing significant in absolute musical terms. Women have demonstrated an ability playing the piano and violin, but there are no important women composers. Blacks do well with a horn in their hands. Drums and bass, within a jazz context. Finally, East Asians appreciate western classical music for reasons.

    The idea that western classical music will make a comeback, i.e., that important western composers will manifest henceforth is not likely inasmuch as the west as a culture is in its terminal decline. The push for ‘diversity’ in classical music is simply a symptom of this decline.

  2. It takes a certain amount of genius simply to recognize genius, and it takes some discipline to cultivate that recognition into the ability to really appreciate and evaluate it. Many people just don’t have the gift, and even fewer do the work to make something of it.

    It takes nothing but a 101 level course in postmodern critical theory — or even just cramming with the Cliff’s Notes — to rank art on the basis of sociopolitical values. Saves you a lot of time and trouble, helps you to not feel inferior, and you get to pretend that it’s just as good as (if not better than) having the ability to tell a well-cooked prime cut from a lamp-warmed meat paste patty.

    • Agree: Thomasina
    • Replies: @Johan
  3. Miha says:

    Viewed globally, what happens in North America is looking increasingly irrelevant. Not sure where she got the following statistic but one Anya Wassenberg estimates that 50 million Chinese kids are studying classical piano. Another indicator: from 2013 to 2017, the number of orchestras in China leaped from 32 to 82. Finally from her article: “Deutsche Grammophon president Dr. Clemens Trautmann told a Gramophone reporter, “China is now among the top ten markets for recorded music in the world — legal, that is.” It is expected to enter the top three within a few years.”.

    Why? Well look at the international educational attainment reports and go figure!

    https://www.ludwig-van.com/toronto/2019/08/13/feature-the-piano-market-is-booming-and-its-all-because-of-china/

    • Agree: GomezAdddams
    • LOL: 3g4me
  4. ALL engineered by jews

    • Replies: @awry
  5. anon[372] • Disclaimer says:

    So if Domingo is racially unqualified to be Othello, what possible qualifications can *any* black musician have for playing white classical music? And think of the cultural appropriation! White music, in white musical notation, played on white-invented musical instruments, wearing white-invented socks, underpants and t-shirts! Sitting in chairs instead of squatting under a bush! Oh the humanity!

    • LOL: InnerCynic
    • Replies: @Thomasina
    , @Tom
  6. Re the great Western classical musical arts tradition, a good question is why it petered out after 400 years of development … Most music played in classical concerts is no later than the earliest 20th century late Romantic period, from the last ‘great’ composers such as Sibelius or Richard Strass, the final popular ones often being Russians such as Rachmaninoff & Shostakovich. Opera too, faded around the same time, after Puccini in the early 20th century.

    And though there were certainly efforts at ‘cultural destruction’, making absurd ugly ‘intellectual’ music and promoting it, Schoenberg etc … but it still remains a fact that the ‘engine’ of fresh classical music creation ran out of steam.

    Newer ‘classical’ music tends to be either that ‘weird’ academic-modern stuff people don’t like, or else rather un-original if pleasant, as hinted above. Music for Hollywood movies is typically derivative of late Romantic classics as well, Richard Strauss especially seems to have framed cinema & tv musical score idioms.

    Curiously, the critical mass of classical musical study & performance today, is East Asia, notably China big-time … the hard work involved doesn’t much suit Western youth today.

    What happened to music? Did we just run into the limits of musical idiom, & what can be developed that people still find enjoyable? Notably, a huge amount of pop music hits, use the same 4 chords over & over (!) – they ‘work’ in winning the human ear … it has perhaps become, like so much else, a manipulation. Here’s Australians ‘Axis of Awesome’ doing a hilarious mash-up of hit songs using those 4 ‘pop-hit-making’ musical chords, 5min31:

  7. Thomasina says:
    @anon

    “And think of the cultural appropriation!”

    Yes, this is what I’ve always found hilarious. It’s only “cultural appropriation” when we do it.

    • Replies: @Franz
    , @awry
  8. @xyzxy

    Agree about Gershwin and Copland. I’ve also found the music to be very disjointed – more along the lines of a film score.

    • Replies: @Drew
    , @DC Nate
  9. @Miha

    Interestingly, while classical organ has been more or less abandoned by the main stream in the USA**, China, South Korea and Japan are importing large organs, both pipe and electronic and also producing accomplished organists.

    **Many churches have abandoned the organ in favor of ‘praise bands’. The few remaining classical music radio stations in the US typically avoid programming any classical organ music outside of specific shows (e.g. Pipe Dreams) at odd hours. Some colleges and universities have closed or curtailed their organ degree programs.

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  10. Franz says:
    @Thomasina

    It’s only “cultural appropriation” when we do it.

    But when **they** do it falls so flat it succeeds only in embarrassing or infuriating the audience.

    Had a chunk of time in February free and wanted to see two recent BBC productions. One was Les Miserables without the (1980s) music and the other was War of the Worlds, for once set roughly in the period Welles set it.

    I was amazed. I thought this sort of thing only happened in Hollywood. Both productions were full of anachronistic casting that made them ridiculous. That sort of inclusiveness is fraud. It is not meant to satisfy the audience, it’s just virtue signalling. I hope they feel very virtuous indeed; I’m betting much of the original audience shut them off even earlier than I did.

    BBC just lost my respect. But it raises an interesting question. How soon before some venerable European work, say A Tale of Two Cities, is scheduled and potential viewers ask, “I wonder if anybody in the cast might be white this time?”

  11. Alfa158 says:
    @brabantian

    I’ve discussed that puzzle with professional classical musicians and the summary is no one seems to know. It may be that the permutations of music within the classical Western scales have been somewhat exhausted so it is difficult to compose another great work without having it echo from a work already in the catalog.
    Another possibility is that with the ubiquity of recorded performances, musicians spend so much time listening to all the breadth and variety of the classics that their creative threads get in a way sort of drowned out. We see new Mozart’s every year, young prodigies who have tremendous talent and can perform gloriously, but none of them ever compose great works of their own. Bach probably didn’t listen to a fraction of the music in either amount or variety that we have going all the time. Maybe the classic pre-recording era composers simply had enough quiet to hear themselves think and let the Muse whisper in their ears.

    • Agree: Mulga Mumblebrain
    • Replies: @Liza
    , @gotmituns
  12. aspnaz says:

    Western cultural revolution … go to China and you will see that even now, more than 50 years after their cultural revolution, the country is a cultural sahara. They do not have anything that could even be considered to be compared to western culture, just nothing. Very boring.

    • Replies: @Badger Down
    , @PlumAvocado
  13. Thus, as we watch statues memorializing Confederate heritage destroyed…

    Consider ragtime, blues, jazz, rhythm-and-blues, rock, disco, and rap (invariably sung chanted with a low-latitude drawl) to be revenge for 1865.

    San Francisco was a civilized city until 1966. Ask Tony Bennett.

    • Agree: HeebHunter
  14. Liza says:
    @Alfa158

    Maybe the classic pre-recording era composers simply had enough quiet to hear themselves think and let the Muse whisper in their ears.

    True enough. I’d like to add that it’s not possible for a degenerate society to produce even one great composer. The world just doesn’t work that way.

    • Replies: @Old Prude
  15. @Franz

    It really brings up the subject of “suspension of disbelief”, doesn’t it? Classical theory held that when you attended the theater, you entered a different realm, a different space and time. In order to pass through the portal to that neverland, the spectator had to be willing to leave the world of normal expectations behind. And to facilitate that, it was incumbent upon the theater troupe to make it easy to so by suggestive costuming, props, sets, masks and such. All of which were designed to lubricate the passage, so to speak. Casting characters out of time and place is throwing a handful of sand in the works. And that’s the point, really–to make the piece a failure. So that in retrospect, the reviewers can taunt the audience as loutish philistines.

  16. SafeNow says:


    I will go somewhat off-topic to mourn, and and express bewilderment, regarding the demise of the wonderful popular music I grew up with. You see, I grew up during the 60’s, and every few days there arrived a magnificent new song; I assumed it would go on forever; I was wrong. Now I view performances of these songs on Youtube. Oh what can it mean?

    Returning to topic, I have had my symphony subscription for decades, and I am grateful to our indispensable Asian- American violinists.

    • Agree: Mark G.
    • Replies: @obwandiyag
  17. Allen says:

    like what Antonin Dvorak did with his famous “New World Symphony” (No. 9), with the use of the “Goin’ home” theme in the Largo movement.

    This is incorrect. Dvorak composed all the musical motifs in the New World Symphony. Dvorak’s Largo theme was only adapted into “Goin home” in 1922 when Dvorak’s pupil, William Arms Fisher, wrote lyrics. Although often mistakenly credited as “traditional” or a “spiritual” the music is pure Dvorak.

  18. John Hagan says: • Website

    Art Future: Sadly today the concept of art, music, fashion is that beauty can be ugly, songs can be without verse, fashion can be rags, good can be evil and common sense can be nonsence. Exploiting these concepts we eventually get to Epstein’s Island where the elite were busy testing the new concepts.

  19. Thomasina says:
    @Franz

    Yes, I doubt very much whether the BBC would ever do this to a production of Shaka Zulu, or remake The Ten Commandments with an Asian playing Moses. Can you just imagine the backlash?

    The BBC lost my respect a long time ago. They have collapsed into the ridiculous.

  20. Dumbo says: • Website

    You forgot to mention that the “COVID” lockdown stuff basically ended music performance in the Western world… No public performances of music for over a year… Musicians struggling… I wonder if that’s also part of the plan… I suppose that the more important state-sponsored orchestras will return eventually, but many smaller orchestras and music venues, not to mention small theatres and independent cinemas that lasted for decades in Europe and the U.S. are now closing forever, never to come back again.

  21. Who cares jeez??? All civilizations flourish and flounder. Worry about climate change-that should be a priority not fucking organs and pipes. Live out your life and depart. That’s what i am doing!

  22. @Polistra

    Politically savvy people, have learned to discount the BBC years ago. There is hardly a single subject involving issues like race that they can be taken seriously on. They are the New York Times, British version.

  23. Wally says:
    @Barack Hussein Obama

    “Mendelssohn”.

    We knew that was coming.

    Highly over rated by the usual enemies of free speech.

    Mendelssohn was a teenager who never grew up, his music proves it.

    • Disagree: Mulga Mumblebrain
    • Replies: @Palerider1861
  24. @brabantian

    Newer ‘classical’ music tends to be either that ‘weird’ academic-modern stuff people don’t like . .

    You might mention Philip Glass, seems like a noteworthy exception,

    • Replies: @R2b
    , @Johan
  25. Here you go, buddy! Not a man, not white, not even American! Infinitely superior music!

  26. Anonymous[369] • Disclaimer says:

    C’mon, man, no hat tip to E. Michael Jones?? EMJ has written and spoken on this subject for over a quarter century.

    Dionysos Rising: The Birth of Cultural Revolution Out of the Spirit of Music (Ignatius Press, 1994).

    In this work EMJ details how music became a weapon to shape culture by people who had as their agenda the rejection of Christian morality. EMJ’s thesis is that music has served as the vehicle of revolution for at least the past two centuries, particularly the 20th.

    https://www.fidelitypress.org/dionysos-rising


    • Agree: profnasty
  27. Tom says:
    @anon

    You covered it. I often considered that. All the bitching and moaning from blacks about how whites have expropriated “their music” (jazz/rock) What a sad joke. With a little integrity, those complainers should stop taking any bridge or tunnel, or using a toilet bowl, etc, etc. I had considered Nat King Cole, for example. I liked many of his hits, but mostly he had white writers, arrangers, studio technicians, and his manager behind his success. But the only focus on his career was that he endured racism with dignity. Incidentally, whites continuously outdo blacks at their own art. Stevie Winwood, at 16, the Rolling Stones, Cream, and several other mostly English rock groups, took black music to another level altogether, in my opinion. Some composed elements of jazz, folk, blues, and classical: (Kinks/Pre-disco-Bee Gees, many others)

    • Agree: Thomasina
    • Replies: @ivan
  28. @aspnaz

    I guess. Except for the music, paintings, architecture, dance, sculpture, textiles, printing, ceramics, and so on.

    • Replies: @Alfred
  29. Renoman says:

    It is said “there are only two kinds of music, good and bad” and while you can force acclimatize to a small degree people will like what they like regardless of what you want them to like. A cover is a cover and is rarely as successful as the original, almost always a disappointment to me. Hell is full of music critics, name one. The magic of a hit song is a genie in a bottle, you can analyze it to death and gain few real answers. Right now we’re going through quite a dry spell in music but it will rally, any day now there will be an “uptown funk” coming down the pike, good classical is very rare but this too will happen, it’s a game of passion you can’t force it.

  30. The historian Toynbee described a process he called “mimesis”, whereby a section of society imitates another. He pointed out that for six hundred years, the Barbarians took on Roman names, dressed like Romans, and copied Roman culture.

    In the last fifty years the process was reversed and Romans dressed like Barbarians, listened to barbarian music and generally embraced Barbarian culture.

    Toynbee regarded mimesis as a powerful sign of the end of an age. Look how the dress code has changed. I won’t even discuss tattoos.

    I occasionally visit trade shows and look at the second hand goods for sale. Vinyl is quite popular, but not classical music. Hardly anyone listens to hifi anymore: i-phones provide the music. And as for the liberty to discuss these things, didn’t Orwell say “in times of universal deception speaking the truth is an act of insurrection”?

    • Agree: Alfred
    • Thanks: Etruscan Film Star
  31. anon[847] • Disclaimer says:

    To truly consider the Taliban-like “cultural cleansing” of our society, on must ask, what ever happened to all the European culture and stories and art and music and traditions about Thor?

    Thor is a prominently mentioned god throughout the recorded history of the Germanic peoples, from the Roman occupation of regions of Germania, to the Germanic expansions of the Migration Period, to his high popularity during the Viking Age… -wikipedia{.}org/wiki/Thor

    The last several hundred years, we’ve witnessed the destruction of indigenous European culture, to be replaced by the Zionista’s revolutionary madness that “Salvation is from the Jews.” Even worse is the New Testament notion that we must pay the Jews for our cultural destruction. “[Goyim] owe it to the Jews.”

    Pictured is an unrestrained assault on the cultural artifacts of Donar’s (Thor’s) Oak, in the region of Hesse, Germany.

    P.S. Christ is Kang! — of um… Zion, the foreign capital city of a certain shitty little country in a far away desert.

    P.P.S. Today on the calendar is Thor’s Day, and christomongers will have his hallowed name on their lips — which will greatly piss-off the Jew-wanker they worship. 🤣

    • Agree: Lucy Lipinska
    • Thanks: Schuetze
  32. awry says:
    @Thomasina

    Yes, this is what I’ve always found hilarious. It’s only “cultural appropriation” when we do it.

    According to whom? Blacks? Who came up with the term? Definitely wasn’t them, they are way too dumb to invent such fancy word salads.

  33. awry says:
    @WhiteWinger

    You are not wrong, but they had plenty of helpers. WASP’s and American Catholics (especially those of Irish descent) provided very much support to the process.
    Of course for the Jew ultimate social ascendancy necessitated the total deconstruction of dominant White Christian culture. First they assimilated to it, but weren’t content with getting accepted into it. For some reason they always end up seeking to destroy the goy cultures that they assimilate into.

    • Agree: oliver elkington
    • LOL: 36 ulster
    • Troll: GeneralRipper
    • Replies: @36 ulster
  34. anon[231] • Disclaimer says:

    [T]he dismemberment of the corpus of our inherited culture and its ideologization could not have occurred, at least in the same way, had it not been for those earlier Marxist theoreticians and their followers.

    What is not addressed or discussed by conservative critical considerations of 20th century cultural trends is the question of: where were the theoriticians and artists that were the natural inheritors of classical West?

    A second aspect which is fully ignored in these wistful considerations of ‘how the Western civilization was corrupted’ is the fact that it were the 19th century Western thinkers and artists themselves that provided the transitional bridge to modernism (in a generic sense).

    For example, the author mentions Beethoven. What to make of works such as Große Sonate für das Hammerklavier? Was LvB a “marxist” bent on destroying Western civilization and “harmony”, etc?

    An even wider review of historic Western cultural trends, must take into consideration the fairly substantial shifts in cultural output over the past few centuries, predating the emergence of the implied ‘usual suspects’.

    I have no idea if the OP is a creative person. But to creative readers, the strong suggestion is: Create and leave the whining to the ‘usual suspects’ of UNZ.com butt hurt authors.

    • Replies: @Kevx
  35. gotmituns says:
    @Barack Hussein Obama

    Wagner told him to stop trying to write German music.

  36. gotmituns says:
    @Alfa158

    Maybe the classic pre-recording era composers simply had enough quiet to hear themselves think and let the Muse whisper in their ears.
    —————————————————————————————————-
    I’m a man who has been around noisy machinery my entire life and for some reason have come to love classical music. When I’m in the car driving, I listen to WQXR FM, the classical station and the same at home. Now that I’m retired, I keep my life as quiet as possible. Maybe the “Muse” has somehow gotten my ear. Otherwise, I had no background in such music. God allowed me to discover and enjoy it before I die. Wilhelm Furtwangler is my favorite conductor.

    • Replies: @GMC
  37. Schuetze says:

    Many of the greatest composers going back hundreds of years were freemasons, just as they are to this day.

    Johann Christian Bach
    Ludwig van Beethoven [unconfirmed]
    William S. Gilbert
    Franz Haydn (1732-1809), i.1785, lodge Zur Wahren Eintracht, Vienna
    Franz von Liszt (1811-1886), i.1841, Lodge Zur Einigkeit, Frankfurt
    Rouget de Lisle i. 1782 Loge Les Freres discrets
    Wolfgang Mozart
    Jean Julius Sibelius (1865-1957)
    Arthur Sullivan
    Irving Berlin
    Jean Sibelius
    John Philip Sousa

    Freemasonry is Kabbalah for goyim. There were certainly many more secret freemason composers as well. Many, or even most, of these composers relied upon patronage from their aristocratic sponsors who themselves were freemasons.

    [MORE]

    It turns out that many jazz musicians were also Prince Hall freemasons:

    Duke Ellington
    Sun Ra
    Nat King Cole
    WC Handy
    Dizzy Gillespie
    Count Basie
    Lionel Hampton
    Paul Robeson

    But lets not think that Rock and Roll wasn’t infested with freemasons too. The entire “awakening” in Laurel Canyon was Masonic. Phil Lesh and Mickey Hart of the Grateful Dead are freemasons, and Bob Weir and John Barlow are members of Bohemian Grove.

    Not to be underestimated is all of the illuminati symbolism of pop and rap music today. The devils horn hand gestures and covered eyes are blatant Masonic messaging.

    And of course we also have the Eagles of Death Metal staged terrorist incident at the Bataclan in Paris, and the staged Harvest Festival shooting in front of the obelisks and the Luxor pyramid in Las Vegas.

    Freemason lodges always try to attract the most talented people in their communities, so it is understandable that many great musicians would end up as members of these lodges. But any astute person, especially a genius, should be able to recognize that something is very fishy with all the masonic symbolism and occult initiations.

    For this reason I don’t think that any of the “great composers” who were freemasons should get a pass for being dupes for the illuminati and zionism.

    If find this section of Red Symphony, or the 1938 Stalinist police (NKVD) interrogation of a founder of the Communist International, Christian G. Rakovsky to be quite relevant for understanding how Musicians have been dupes for jews and anti-humanists for centuries.

    “G. – Do you want to say that the freemasons have to die at the hands of the revolution which has been brought about with their co-operation?

    R. – Exactly so. You have formulated a truth which is veiled by a great secret. I am a mason, you already knew about that. Is that not so? Well, I shall tell you this great secret, which they promise to disclose to a mason in one of the higher degrees, but which is not disclosed to him either in the 25th, nor the 33rd, nor the 93rd, nor any other high level of any ritual. It is clear that I know of this not as a freemason, but as one who belongs to “Them” …

    G. – And what is it?

    R. – Every masonic organization tries to attain and to create all the required prerequisites for the triumph of the Communist revolution; this is the obvious aim of freemasonry; it is clear that all this is done under various pretexts; but they always conceal themselves behind their well-known treble slogan. (Liberty, Equality, Fraternity – Transl.) You understand? But since the Communist revolution has in mind the liquidation, as a class, of the whole bourgeoisie, the physical destruction of all bourgeois political rulers, it follows that the real secret of masonry is the suicide of freemasonry as an organization, and the physical suicide of every more important mason. You can, of course, understand that such an end, which is being prepared for every mason, fully deserves the secrecy, decorativeness and the inclusion of yet another whole series of secrets, with a view to concealing the real one. If one day you were to be present at some future revolution then do not miss the opportunity of observing the gestures of surprise and the expression of stupidity on the face of some freemason at the moment when he realises that he must die at the hands of the revolutionaries. How he screams and wants that one should value his services to the revolution! It is a sight at which one can die … but of laughter.

    • Replies: @profnasty
    , @Zarathustra
    , @UR2
  38. anon[847] • Disclaimer says:
    @Polistra

    I see Christians!

    You have to hand it to the blacks, dey be the first goyim to accept the glorious and holy Jewish-authored factoid that “Salvation be from dem Jews.” Ethiopia be the first Christian nation. Dey be so blessed since surrendering to Christ is Kang! — of um… Zion. And since blacks be first Christians, black [L. Niger, Gr. Νίγερ] became synonymous with Christian in the ancient world. Straight outta conco:

    Definition: Niger, a Christian
    Strong’s Concordance #3526: Niger

    May as well get used to Nigers as your Bruvahs, because Africa currently has the largest population of Christians in the world. An eternity in “heavenly Zion” will be so wonderful with all dem Nigers! Sheeyit, be koo.

  39. Drew says:
    @CasperKoch

    Copland’s best stuff I’ve found to be pretty listenable. Gershwin is awful.

  40. Drew says:
    @xyzxy

    To be honest, the biggest reason why Western orchestral music won’t see a resurgence is for the same reason Newtonian physics won’t be innovative: the field is pretty much complete. You have to pity anyone attempting to compose, because they will always be compared to the treats, like Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, etc. and really, could anyone do better than these?

    FWIW, I perform in a church choir, and we regularly perform all sorts of liturgical compositions from the past 800 years. The modern compositions tend to take their cues from jazz, so while they are interesting in a certain sense, they just don’t stick with you the way older, tried and true songs, like Tollite Hostias or the Hallelujah Chorus do.

    • Replies: @RegretLeft
  41. Defense of Classical Culture!

  42. Anonymous[333] • Disclaimer says:

  43. aspnaz says:

    The death of culture is the sadest of all of the sins of the progressive Marxists. I have lived in all continents and I can say that very few non-western countries come anywhere close to the sophistication and richness of western culture in all streams and at all levels. Even places like Japan, who have a very sophisticated culture, have not progressed to the same depth, such as the development of musical instruments and all the other components of culture.

    Communist China is a total cultural dessert, I have never seen a country with less culture than China, it is simply amazing how poor their lives are culturally. Compared to the countries I have visted in Africa they by comparison in complete cutural poverty. Their only real art is the lion dance (a traditional celebration used to open shops etc) and traditional opera, but they have not developed anything like modern musical instruments or any real form of music beyond the traditional opera which is basically like a form of village folk opera. Interestingly they don’t seem to care. I live next door to a traditional opera house and I don’t know how they survive.

    Seeing culture as racist is plain ignorance, but I guess that is what you get with a deformed education system and the latest generation providing limited offerings to the arts. I wonder whether the international pool of Jazz musicians will be granted honorary whitehood, and honary manhood for the ladies, then canceled. Life is wasted if it becomes a pursuit of money and dumb concepts like equality, not that the racist progressive authoritarians would understand that.

    But this is mostly a generational change and other things are changing too, like the reduction people doing outdoor activites. I know that the lack of skiers has been hitting Japanese slopes for over a decade or so. No different here in China, most Chinese can’t swim and see the sea is seen as dirty and dangerous, so why would you go there?

    We can at least be thankful that we got to enjoy it!

  44. DanFromCT says:
    @brabantian

    The “Axis of Awesome” video says it all! Thanks!

    • Thanks: SeekerofthePresence
  45. theMann says:

    First, I think there is more music out there than most people realize. For most people, their taste in music seems to fall in a very narrow range, and they tend to be almost openly hostile to other forms of musical expression. This seems odd to me, but ….anyway three examples of music written in my lifetime:

    which are certainly different.

    Second, I will add one of the Greatest pieces of music ever written:

    Note the common feature of the Composer, Conductor, Most of the Players , and the Audience. It is as if there is some sort of common thread there, can’t quite place it…..

    Third, film killed Opera. A successful film score will likely make a composer more money than all the Operas ever written, plus, nowadays two hours is about the upper limit most people have for musical concentration, and most Operas run 3 hours or more.

    In the end, a conundrum, which I have no explanation for:
    The more music there is out there, the more people narrow the the types of music they are willing to listen to. The more opportunity there is to obtain instruments, learn basic playing and composition, the fewer people take advantage of it. Truly sad.

  46. anonymous[493] • Disclaimer says:

    Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart’s comic opera of genius, The Abduction from the Seraglio, which playfully makes fun of Islam

    You pagan godless kaffir vermin are free to “make fun” of the true monotheism of Islam… but, to return the favour, we will never tire of sticking a knife into the moribund heart of your heretical pagan polytheist mangods-worshipping abomination of a faith, called Christianity, and twisting it gleefully. 😀

    • Replies: @anon
  47. We’ve been pitting you ants in wars against each other, destroyed your cultures, infiltrated your religions (how do you like our pope?), corrupted your politicians, taken over your media (hey, they were always ours actually), screwed up your women, indoctrinated your children, poisoned your minds and your food, hooked you on drugs, stolen your money, exploited your work, and just plain gulaged and murdered you for centuries – but only now are we ready to really drop the hammer. Trust me, the end goal is ALL about race. MY race.

  48. @xyzxy

    Blacks do well with a horn in their hands.

    Day sure do!

  49. Anon[187] • Disclaimer says:

    I object to the “woke” telling me that a race whose musical accomplishments rose to a drum and a one stringed instrument (implement?) must be accepted as being equivalent Bach, Beethoven, Wagner or Brahms. Modern “music” simply contains the gruntings of African west coast savages.

    • Agree: aspnaz
    • Replies: @theMann
  50. ValMonde says:
    @Polistra

    There is now abundant historical evidence that Robbin’ da Hood was a black man. And this is what Natasha Rostova looked like:

  51. @xyzxy

    Mendelssohn —-Felix was Jewish with Hebrides —aka Fingal’s Cave

  52. Turk 152 says:

    This is a complex subject and I think the author is amalgamating too many secular threads. Most great American art was produced in the 20th century and is modern. What we are seeing currently is a desecration of historical icons that may or may not be considered art. It is more an attack on a particular aspect of culture than art.

    The destruction of the tradition and craftsmanship of fine arts are much more the responsibility of the artists themselves as they shed all constraints long ago to make a more and more sensational and at the same time meaningless self expression. I believe they were encouraged to do this by political forces that held to make a generally artistically untrained US the cultural epicenter of the universe.

    Hence cringeworthy Super Bowl half time performances or even presidential nominations with vapid music devoid of any artistry ironically reflective of the people and event itself.

    Unfortunately there is much to the devolution of US art than the cancel culture.

  53. Jiminy says:

    Concerning the character Otello, why not simply rewrite him to be a person of the times. Perhaps as a lesbian, transgender, amputee albino negro. And then anybody should be able to perform the role as it would be too bloody confusing to work out just who should be performing it.
    And instead of overthrowing the existing structure and building a new one, as Philip Ewell recommends, why not simply build an alternate structure while keeping the original alongside. Then everybody should be happy. And the competition between the two should be a good thing.
    These are crazy times. I don’t even watch the B.B.C. Dr. Who anymore because somehow he came back as a screeching, neurotic woman. I’m betting that she’ll next regenerate as a negro, homosexual, transgender with personality issues. That should be great entertainment. God forbid.

  54. karel says:

    I am puzzled by your spewing of trendy expressions like Marxist, post-Marxist or cultural Marxism, i.e. empty words without meaning. I am not aware that Marx ever wrote anything about race or women in music and anything that would have foreseen the current trends. Marx was marginally interested in composition and in his Grundrisse (1857-58), he referred to musical composition as an example of free, unalienated labor:

    Really free labor, the composing [of music] for example, is at the same time damned serious and demands the greatest effort. The labor concerned with material production can only have this character if (1) it is of a social nature and (2) it has a scientific character and at the same time is general work, i.e. if it becomes the activity of a subject controlling all the forces of nature in the production process.

    The passage above is not very illuminating, apart from the obvious message that composing music can be laborious. In any case, Marx was concerned with the music of his age, he had nothing against it, apart from disliking Richard Wagner.

  55. martin_2 says:

    The music of Bela Bartok, and possibly Stravinsky, is as good or great as that of the famous composers of the Classical and Romantic periods. Schoenberg’s system doesn’t really work all that well, but early on in his career before he went berserk he showed he could compose great music, such as Transfigured Night. I find the music of Scriabin, Janacek, Messiaen, Lutoslawski, and some others, much more interesting than the centuries old stuff.

    • Agree: Peter Akuleyev
    • Thanks: ivan
  56. HT says:

    How disgusting is that nearly every TV commercial now utilizes Negro rap and hip hop music? And sadly most whites don’t know or don’t care how their wonderful Western culture is being ripped away and replaced by the culture of savages.

    • Troll: Mulga Mumblebrain
    • Replies: @Etruscan Film Star
  57. My favorite classical music station (available on web: https://www.rtve.es/alacarta/rne/radio-clasica/) has long been Radio Clásica from RTV España. It’s not what it was even twenty years ago, but it’s still worth listening to.

    There are also contemporary composers worthy of note: Henrik Goreczky; Arvo Part; Morton Laurenson, etc. Opera, well…

    Mr. Cathey and I are of an age. As a boy, Saturday Met broadcasts were mandatory and by chance the director of the Met orchestra was a neighbor, so I was inculcated young. Another neighbor was a retired recital pianist. Like Mr C, it was a taste I shared with few and tended to keep to myself. Nowadays, I’m beginning to share it with my young grandchildren (I have a large recorded collection), determined that this wonderfully pleasurable heritage will be part of their lives and those of their descendants.

    • Replies: @theMann
  58. The author is right re dismissal of the woke crowd. However, he is completely wrong about the Frankfurt school, Gramsci and Lukacs. It would take me too long to explain, so I recommend classic works of Rolf Wiggerhaus, Stuart Jeffries (Grand Hotel Abyss) and Martin Jay.

    Of course, the central text remains Leszek Kolakowski’s “Main Currents of Marxism”, 1-3, esp. volume 3.

    With regard to concert/classical music- it will survive & will bury its undertakers. Trust me.

    • Troll: Schuetze
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @ivan
  59. Jake says:
    @xyzxy

    Here is an unpleasant but true assertion: the west as a culture is in its terminal decline.

    ‘The West’ is the secular bastard child of Western Christian Civilization. The West indeed is going to die. Its historic peoples all could be swept into oblivion, some of them absorbed into Mohammedan groups, some into Jews, some into Asian groups. Non-Christian religion will be central to those absorptions.

    Those who rediscover and work to revive Christendom will survive as distinct peoples. Christendom was been under major assault from within since the dawn of the Reformation. Cathey surely knows that, but he rarely gets around to proclaiming it, which only allows the masses who read him to keep trying to save ‘the West’ with methods and ideas that actually slowly murder all vestiges of Western Christian Civilization.

    This quote from Cathey shows the problem: In a broader sense, this assault portends a basic denial of the richness and nourishing fruits of our culture and what that culture has given us. For that denial goes far beyond visible symbols in copper and granite or in place names. We have seen this in the increasing demands for a Taliban-like “cultural cleansing” of our society.

    The Taliban does nothing in that arena that Anglo-Saxon Puritans, and other Protestant Reformers, did not master centuries ago, as they ravaged Western Christendom in half. Why avoid naming the internal traitors?

    It is either Christ and Christendom or Chaos, in which Jews dominate. Many Mohammedans assume that they will have another run of large scale run, but if they do it will be just like those of the past: Jews per capita will direct and prosper most. Like Christian heresy, Mohammedanism, once Western cultures are subdued, always sees Jews rise and control from the wings.

    • Replies: @Papa
    , @anon
    , @Dumbo
  60. theMann says:
    @Anon

    Hardly the grunting of savages. Seriously, you have no idea about West African music. It may not be Western Civilizations’s music, but it is still an impressive achievement.

    • Agree: Bardon Kaldian
    • Thanks: ivan
  61. theMann says:
    @Montefrío

    When Henryk Gorecki died, there wasn’t even a blip on the news in the USA.

    Pathetic.

  62. profnasty says:
    @Polistra

    Of course you know this all exudes from the empty head of QE. She takes guidance from her accountant, Jake the Snake.
    When you own half of the world’s most valuable land, and you want to see Negroez- You see Necrows!

  63. While I fully agree with the political stance of the article, it already shows the effects of cultural destruction.
    There are a few things very wrong – like putting Adorno in the musical context.
    Of all people of the Frankfurt School, Adorno as a musicologist and composer was probably the only one making a valid point on the commercialization of music, depriving it from its artistic intent.
    He was honestly deploring the fate of classical music.
    If you read his texts on music, you would find very many observations that are in line with today’s conservative critics.
    (Apart from the fact that in his Minimal Moralia he clearly opposes the cultural melting pot and equality madness, which he says is leading to fascism, not getting rid of it.)

    Furthermore, if we wanted to find feminism in music, one would have to go back to the 16th century, which saw – coming from Italy’s Castiglione – already an equalization ideal in education, leading to the rise of confident women artists.
    But there was no real struggle for talented women to be successful in music, which opposes the view of modern day feminists.
    Maddalena Casulana, the first female composer published in print, did not face any real challenge with her talent. She was widely praised and invited to present her works amongst men in important contexts like Royal Weddings.
    And she basically just went to the publisher and had her music printed, no questions asked.
    She did mention that some men were opposed to women composers, but – as portrayed in Castiglione’s The Courtier – these were the ever present few real misogynists who were offended by talented women, not a general atmosphere. (She wouldn’t have made it back then, if it were a general issue).

    About the racial agenda:
    It is very obvious that no real “Black history” is intended, just provocation by casting Black actors in white roles – because if you tell true stories of Black people in Europe, they lack any racism that could be presented in todays “anti-racist” agenda.
    Here’s some examples:
    * John Blanke, trumpeter of the Courts of Henry VII and VIII, was African. However, he was never oppressed. He was duly represented twice in the Tournement roll depictions as a black man, not left out.
    When he got the job and found out what his predecessor earned, he petitioned the Court to pay a higher salary and also demanded retroactive payment for the previous time. He got it, again no questions asked.
    (he was only one of many African musicians at European courts. There were good drummers, so even the King of Scotland had them. A Portuguese fresco depicts an all black wind band, which was no surprise as Lisbons population in early 16th century was to a significant degree of African descent…).

    * Joseph Boulogne was a mulatto, son of a slave mother, in Paris, widely known for his ingenious violin playing (which inspired Mozart to his own concertos, after he had seen Boulogne in Paris), and his athletic feats.
    Racism? Hardly. He was the sole royally appointed candidate for opera director. He didn’t get the job because of jelly narcissistic opera singers who fought over him, it seems. All too human, not too racist…
    He got chewed up in the Revolution, not in ethnic cleansing.

    * Ghana-born German Anton Wilhelm Amo was the first Black professor at a university ever – mid 18th century. The president of Jena University even highly praised the cultural influence of Africa when Amo got his tenure. Telling his story would also hardly involve racism, more an intellectual quarrel with his philosopher peers.
    It’s just not spectacular enough and would undermine the notion that Blacks could not achieve anything before justice warriors appeared on the canvas.

    * Everyone loves the Three Musketeers. Written by Alexandre Dumas – a mulatto.
    Racism? Not really. His father was a famous general. One could tell his story – but would have to admit that his skin color is really not worth any storyline.

    The whole discussion about race is flawed.
    It was always psychopaths who used “race” to exploit people.
    Now the same psychopaths are exploiting it to guilt-trip white people, when in fact it was their own crime families who started the oppression in the first place.
    Feudalism was the only reason back then, not racism.
    Amongst servants, there was no racial division. They were all equally underprivileged.

    Wake up, people. It’s a huge divide-and-conquer scheme.
    The backlash is part of it.
    Yes, there are differences between peoples. But the dividing line of humanity is psychopaths vs. the rest.
    Neo-Feudalists want us to fight over petty racial issues.
    It’s not a bug – it’s a feature.

    • Thanks: niceland
    • LOL: 3g4me
  64. Marckus says:

    Someone can put a bowl of poison in front of you but if you drink it then you are the fool ! The trash that is entertainment these days is what is demanded by the rabble. They crave it and they pay for it.

    I read the other day that Chuck Lorre ( a Jew who took on a Latino sounding name) is the money maker for NBC with his hits “Two and a Half Men” and the “Big Bang Theory”. Anyone who spends an hour a day looking at this rubbish has to be brain dead. Now he is coming out with some new Sitcom
    about an Afghan interpreter who comes to the US to live with a soldier he served with in the war.

    Yesterday I went to do groceries and had to quickly exit the store as the music was driving me crazy. The lead singer, who sounded like Mike Jackson just mouthed some rhyming nonsense: “Rio de Janeiro, I like my Peso, I be frio Negro, The Grande Rio, the Chronic is Mio, I tokes the Endo” accompanied by a thumping beat and backup singers with squeaky voices repeating over and over again ” Baby Momma, Yeah Yeah Yeah, You be my girl, Uh Huh Uh Huh Yeah Yeah Yeaaaaaaaaaah Sugar Sugar”.

    Move over Shakespeare, Byron, Mark Twain, Thackeray, Voltaire, Bacon, Epitectus and company. You hand to mouth deadbeats are old news. Welcome Chuck and his muck with one half hour show raking in more coin than any of the greatest masters made in a lifetime.

    Bye bye, Vivaldi, Beethoven and all the other musical deadbeats with their great symphonies and works. You guys are a bunch of losers. We want Cardi B, Snoop, Notorious BIG and Puff Daddy. These old masters agonised over a key, a note, a word…wasting time over a whole complicated symphony and all to earn a few miserable coins. Our artistes today are far more talented ” Sucking, fucking, gang shooting, Heroin booting, cock napping, Nigger zapping, booty twerking” equals millions with artists sewing diamonds onto their forehead, half a dozen platinum dog chains around their neck and gold plated teeth.

    The public wants trash for their entertainment and trash for their minds and are willing to pay big money for both. When this type of demand exists there will always be people who rush to fill the need.

    Should we blame the suppliers for the poison ? Are the sewer addicts in any way responsible ?

  65. profnasty says:
    @Schuetze

    Was it Nt Gingrich Yagoda, NKVD; upon being executed, blubbered so much they had to stuff a sock into his mouth? He, or one of his ‘kind’.

    • Replies: @Irish Savant
    , @Schuetze
  66. Rich says:
    @Voltara

    Half French, half Polish, a Roman Catholic.

  67. @brabantian

    So what are the 4 chords?

    Also, the book The Naked Communist showed that making art ugly was one (actually 2) of the 45 points Commies had to destroy western civilization:

    • Replies: @Vojkan
    , @Stonehands
  68. hillaire says:
    @xyzxy

    Mahler was a hack, average and unimpressive, pushed into the limelight by the flatulent con-artist bernstein another musical midget, as part of the jewish consolidation of control of the arts and the destruction early last century of the western artistic canon (as examples dada and atonalism).

    …. all things must become ugly, simplified and accessible to jewish mediocrity and financial shenanigans.. (hence the contemporary ‘art’ markets and it’s use in money laundering, see the latest da vinci scam including jews and arabs, there are many more)…

    if you are searching for a true jewish genius in the romantic tradition you wont find better than felix mendelssohn… though again a grasping conniving gatekeeper and crypto christian ..

  69. hillaire says:
    @hillaire

    As an aside I wouldn’t worry too much about the mainstream and what is pushed by obese mentally confused women, anal acrobats and grievous blacks, whom I may add are driven by envy and feelings of inadequacy….

    the perfect antidote to the plethora of cultural dross and the bloviating imbeciles that excuse it are the great symphonies and other such marvels of our great musicians.

    great art is timeless and impervious to the assaults of these cultural maggots, regardless of what the mendacious mouth-breathers fart through their the media…

    so sit back, light up the fifth and smile……

  70. Now that Alex Trebek is out of the way, There’s a push to make Jeopardy more inclusive. Among the new question categories that have been suggested;

    “Shit yo’ mamma says!” and “Who bitch dis is?”

  71. gotmituns says:

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  72. anon[357] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    You pagan godless kaffir vermin are free to “make fun” of the true monotheism of Islam… but, to return the favour, we will never tire of sticking a knife into the moribund heart of your heretical pagan polytheist mangods-worshipping abomination of a faith, called Christianity, and twisting it gleefully. 😀

    That sounds like a Hasbara twit pretending to Islam. In any event, given a choice between the god rejected Judaism and Christianity, a Muslim will always side with the Christian. At least you have hearts and attempt at being decent human beings, and you honor the Prophet Jesus and his Blessed Mother. We love both of those servants of God.

  73. @Schuetze

    Johann Christian Bach?
    Johann Sebastian Bach!

    • Replies: @Schuetze
  74. polistra says: • Website

    CIA has been using music as a weapon since the ’50s. To see the details, you can just look through the Wikileaks archives for a word like JAZZ.

    https://search.wikileaks.org/?query=jazz&exact_phrase=&any_of=&exclude_words=&document_date_start=&document_date_end=&released_date_start=&released_date_end=&new_search=True&order_by=most_relevant#results

    These archives are mainly from the 60s and 70s. You can see who was working for CIA in those years.

    CIA’s constant agenda is to ruin everything and blame Russia (or sometimes Islam) for the ruination. Standard procedure for psychopaths. Kill innocent people and frame other innocent people for the crime. Great fun.

  75. Hugely BRILLIANT article

  76. BorisMay says:

    This music is of the rich and privileged few. Most of these composers and a majority of the famous performers and conductors were not American. For US residents to claim that what is essentially west European culture, is or has, anything to do with the US is beyond ridiculous.

    Apart from Copland and Gershwin all US culture is barbaric centred around a cultural vacuum based on fast food, Berber and Taureg musical styles misappropriated by blacks (blues) and a childhood game called Rounders (which you call Baseball). Add to that the gratuitous greed, violence and genocide of the indigenous natives of the US and you have the reason why US citizens appropriate European culture and call it their own.

    The hypocrisy is beyond belief. The US is surely the most culturally deprived nation in the world. To accuse China of this is like suggesting the non existent Covid fantasy death cult originated in a bat market in Wuhan. Don’t forget that when you point a finger at China, you have three pointing back at yourself.

  77. kopo says:

    We’ve devolved from, “To be, or not to be” to, “I’m gonna fuck shit up.”

  78. @Badger Down

    Superior, in the sense that it’s not grotesque jewish or african garbage; otherwise you can tell it’s not their culture. Since all culture is racial, they can only do what their race can do.

  79. GMC says:
    @gotmituns

    Totally agree – unfortunately, my tinnitus is so loud that music is always on and I even took up the guitar at 70 . My mother and brother were always playing music in the basement so I have a little of it in me. Lately tho, I listen to Spanish, Flamingo and Gypsy Jazz Have to listen to it pretty loud sometimes to override the inner noise tho – Thanks

  80. Good times create weak men (and culture), hard times create strong men (and culture). I think we’d have a hard time claiming that times were awesome when Bach, Beethoven, Чайковский or Dvorak were composing their pieces.

    I am sure non-pozzed art is being created as we speak. The fact that it’s not being (((promoted))) is irrelevant.

    If you look for it, you will find it. One does not have to accept grotesque (((african-ized))) “music” as a benchmark for anything.

  81. @RJ Macready

    Well don’t let the screen door hit you on your way out…

  82. Thank you for a useful essay.
    With ref to the destruction of civilisation through “art”, notably Music, I was maybe inevitably reminded of the “experimental” American composer John Cage who composed 4’33” in 1952 among other erm masterpieces … Cage is no longer living which music critics and others of superior intellect may view as a tragedy; others however may disagree (perhaps quite fluently) with this assessment of Cage and eg avant garde painters of soup cans etc …

    I was fortunate to be introduced to orchestral music as a schoolboy and now mid-70’s retired it remains a joy; I tend to prefer Baroque, all composers = a huge and to me wonderful compendium of sanity and joy. For any who have time, here’s Georg Friedrich Handel “Water Music” at the Concertgebouw; also a link to “All of Bach” program.
    Enjoy.

    https://www.bachvereniging.nl/en/allofbach

    • Replies: @martin_2
  83. Nice article but overly simplistic. Of course blacks, women, odd fellows et al didn’t write lots of wonderful “classical” music, they had a tough time. Either kept in chains, ignored, raped, shot, etc. However, times have changed, to an extent. It’s a bit easier for a woman, black, trans this, tans that person to get ahead (a job, a university post, a quality instrument……..) and not be shot for DWB, but it’s still difficult. I was a “fan” of what was referred to as “Free Jazz”, and still am. There was lots of charlatanism but also some very good music. In Mozart’s day, same thing. We listen to his music today because it was quite good. However, imagine (because you won’t actually hear it) some other European music of that period written by women, blacks, odd fellows and I’m sure there were jewels – but they were never promoted or allowed to be heard much less published. Similar to the recent decades wherein you would never hear Albert Ayler, Anthony Braxton, Sun Ra, Carla Bley, or the Art Ensemble of Chicago – on the radio much less TV.

    It will all average out. The cream will rise to the top and the chaff will fade. It’s good that we have women, blacks, etc. being promoted on a (nearing) level with whites, but we have a long way to go before people stop saying “first” black this, “first” indigenous that or “first” woman to….. and just say good musician, great composer, competent creator. Trouble is, because of our hubris, such as that exemplified in this simplistic article (rant), global warming will put an end to these frivolous debates and transparent opinions. Can’t wait for indigenous music of the 2060’s, there won’t be much other.

  84. There’s an interesting racial angle going on in popular music as well. You have White artists like Adele, Billie Eilish, and Post Malone making creative pop music (I understand your dismissiveness here, White male readers over 50), while on the Black side you have artists like Beyonce, Cardi B., and Meghan Thee Stallion making music that is plainly and unapologetically Black Nationalist and over-sexualized; but it’s also derivative, repetitive, and an act that’s getting just plain boring. These black artists’ personae and music are interchangeable and static, and time will show their music is disposable.

    If you’re an advocate of the “you can’t keep White people down!” position, then Billie Eilish, in particular, is an interesting case. She gained her fame through music sharing websites like Spotify, which means her music wasn’t promoted by some record label production team. She therefore gained her fame through meritocracy, and not by marrying a well-established multi-millionaire music producer like some artist that will go unmentioned.

    During the recent Grammy Awards, you could almost hear the Black lady artists gnashing their teeth as Ms. Eilish performed; this cherubic, sleepy-eyed child singer who opened her mouth to release the voice of an angel – the voice of the West. And there, by her side, was her multi-talented producer-arranger brother, as White as White can be.

    It was magnificent.

    • Agree: Mark G.
  85. @hillaire

    In his book The Painted Word, Tom Wolfe lays the blame for ugly modern art squarely at the feet of a handful of Jewish “art critics” who were able to buy or bully their way into positions of influence.

    Beauty is to the Jew what sunlight is to a vampire, so everything must become ugly and profane.

    • Replies: @Alexandros
  86. Papa says:
    @Jake

    More likely it will be akin to the collapse of the Western Roman Empire and the rise of the Christian Eastern Roman Empire, with a Neo-Byzantine Russia taking point this time.

    • Replies: @Jake
  87. baythoven says:
    @xyzxy

    Agreed. Among American composers, John Knowles Paine, Edward MacDowell and Samuel Barber are superior to Gershwin and Copeland. And that’s just to state the most obvious; there are probably others — Charles Griffes, …

    • Replies: @bike-anarkist
  88. @Johnny Smoggins

    I recently discovered Daniel Day Lewis was a Jew.

    “Ah”, I thought. “So that’s why he has never impressed me in any way.”

    You are completely right, Jews not only lack talent for art, they are its antimatter. At best you will get something derivative, at worst you will get something truly Jewish: horrible and ugly.

    • Replies: @36 ulster
  89. The most unique contribution of western music to world civilization is harmony. I’ve always believed that harmony is to music as what symmetry is to art. Harmony is also known as the “vertical” aspect of music whereas melody is the horizontal aspect. The intersection of the two gives western classical a “symmetrical” feel. Symmetry, long prized by the Greeks, Christians, and eventually even the Muslims, represents a structured universe governed by order. God’s order.

    The ontological orientation of traditional western civilization is that truth certainly exists which can be contrasted with modern neo marxist culture where truth doesn’t exist and everything is “socially constructed.” Classical music represents the ideals of truth and beauty and when one is touched by those things, one gets to momentarily glimpse the face of God.

    • Replies: @Schuetze
    , @Schuetze
  90. martin_2 says:
    @Arthur MacBride

    John Cage managed to make avante garde music boring and unoriginal. No vision. Nonsense for its own sake. Stockhausen with his ridiculous levels of pretentiousness and self importance is far more entertaining.

  91. Dumbo says: • Website

    Many Mohammedans assume that they will have another run of large scale run, but if they do it will be just like those of the past:

    The great playwright August Strindberg, in a now largely forgotten work, once said that Christians will become a new (moral) aristocracy. And that eventually Christianity would recover Hagia Sophia, when we become Christians again.

    [MORE]

    The Function of the Philistines

    THE TEACHER SAID: “Israel had some unpleasant neighbours called Philistines, who guarded the coast-line along the sea. They worshipped weird gods, such as Dagon the Fish-god, Beelzebub the Lord of Dung, and Astarte. But unpleasant though they were, they seemed to have had a part to play in the life of Israel. As soon as the chosen people abandoned the temple, the Philistines came and closed the sanctuary, set the Lord of Dung upon the altar, and burned incense before the Fish-god. As often as the children of Israel quarrelled among themselves, the Philistines advanced irresistibly.

    The hand of the Lord was with them, so that they punished and chastised their enemies. Once they took possession of the Ark of the Covenant.

    “We have our Philistines on the Bosphorus; they are called Turks. When the Christians were unfaithful to their Lord, the Turk took possession of Christ’s grave, and St. Sophia became a mosque. Whenever the Christians fought with each other, the Turk appeared. After the Thirty Years’ War, when the Christians had torn each other like bloodhounds, the Turk came as far as Vienna, and the Crescent surmounted the Cross in Hungary.”

    The pupil asked: “Why do not the great powers recapture the Holy Sepulchre and the Church of St. Sophia? They could do it in a moment!”

    “I do not know. Perhaps they cannot. We need our Philistine, the bogie-man with whom one frightens children. In France the churches were shut by the pagans when people ceased to attend Mass. Now they set up the Lord of Dung on the altar. Marat, in his time, was buried in the Pantheon; but when Christ reentered, Marat was thrown into the sewer. The last to obtain apotheosis in the Pantheon was an engineer, who had a single merit—that of being murdered by a friend of freedom. When we become Christians again, we shall receive back both the Holy Sepulchre and Santa Sophia. We do not need to take them. Such is the great function of the Philistines in the spiritual economy of nature.”

  92. @AncientSoul

    Most of your comment is very valid, rich in content & insightful.

    But, in my view, the ending is unsatisfactory.

    The point is that, when different races come in contact as more numerous populations- not just individuals- they develop different & generally antagonistic racial-cultural consciousness & identities. They function as different “peoples”.

    Only a fool would deny that, say, Romanians & Hungarians in Romania constitute different peoples. Just, blacks in the US or UK or France, or Muslims in France or Sweden, in reality exist as different ethnic-racial-cultural collectives. This is as natural as is the case with Romanians and Hungarians.

    So, class first approach is a failure. History has proven, not only in the US, but in the whole world, that a combination of race-language-religion-culture (there is no multiracial nation in the world, nation meaning people, not only citizenship) determines one’s primary loyalty. The Chinese, Malays & Indians in Singapore have differing primary loyalties & identities.

    So- what can be done with the US?

    Ditch the identity politics, but remain aware that most blacks, when they say “we”, don’t mean Washington, Lincoln, Melville, Edison, T.S. Eliot, … Nor do whites mean Langston Hughes or Marcus Garvey. Simply, accept blacks’ (and others’) contributions to various aspects of American culture, while refusing all efforts of demonization of historical American culture & identity, which are indubitably Western & rooted in European civilization.

    • Replies: @Thomasina
    , @AncientSoul
  93. Schuetze says:
    @profnasty

    I have gone through several articles looking for details about Yagoda’s execution but have found none. Apparently it was a firing squad. Here is the best I could find:

    https://www.quora.com/Why-was-Genrikh-Yagoda-executed?share=1

    I would be interested if you have some more details…

    • Replies: @profnasty
  94. Anonymous[301] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    The author is right re dismissal of the woke crowd. However, he is completely wrong about the Frankfurt school

    He’s certainly wrong about spelling it.

  95. Schuetze says:
    @Zarathustra

    https://www.freemasonry.bcy.ca/biography/bach_jc/bach_jc.html

    Johann Christian Bach

    September 5, 1735 – January 1, 1782
    Youngest of Johann Sebastian Bach’s four sons, musician and composer Johann Christian was known as the English Bach. In 1760 he was appointed organist of Milan cathedral and in 1762 he became composer to the King’s Theatre in London. Later he became was music master to Queen Charlotte and her children.
    Member: Lodge of Nine Muses No. 235, London

  96. Agent76 says:

    “The aim and final end of all music should be none other than the glory of God and the refreshment of the soul.” Johann Sebastian Bach

    Mar 5, 2021 Lola Astanova & David Aaron Carpenter – Ave Maria

  97. @Drew

    “the field is pretty much complete”

    yes! – very deep point – Brahms actually felt just that way pre-maturely … in retrospect it may have been Schoenberg who “completed” it.

    But for sure, lots of fine classical music is still being composed, but, since 1970 or so, it is not and cannot be anything other than another iteration of late neo romanticism or neo late romaticism (or neoclassical) … … i.e. there is nothing to do but repeat – 1980s+ minimalism being a very interesting but ultimately narrow and static exception

  98. Schuetze says:
    @I'm Tyrone

    I too love harmony. Often in music, art, and even science, I am forced to respect despicable people who are great at what they do. In the case of Harmony, one of the greatest artists of the boomer generation was David Crosby, a drug pusher, pedophile, glutton and all round scum bag. As a descendent of the Vanderbilt family he was also clearly involved in MKultra, the Illuminati, and freemasonry.

  99. Bad goy says:

    The Jewish led genocide of white gentiles is in full swing. I recall reading A Jewish article some years back about how they planned to defame everything Germans held sacred which is exactly what they are doing to the entire West. As Jewish Raphael Lemkin (credited with coining the term “genocide”) noted Ukraine was flooded with non Ukrainians to make sure they could not unite against their Soviet oppressors. Why do 800+ million white gentiles continue to fight a WAR on Jewish terms? We know what they are doing. Jews know they would be slaughtered in a physical war and are attempting to make white gentiles “right to exist and defend themselves” (like Israel) appear as “racist supremacist terrorism”. We have ALL the evidence we need to validate our righteous war declaration as a simple juxtaposition with any other group quickly exposes the innate inequality of their arguments. If white gentiles have learned anything from our rich history it is that trying to win a war of words with the Jews is a fools errand. Our ancestors had no problem cleansing their countries of the Jewish menace when Jews knew we would not be backing down. We don’t have to pick and choose what we can or can’t save. We are still in a position to take it ALL back but that window is rapidly closing as the Jewish ALL or Nothing game ramps into high gear.

  100. Bookish1 says:

    All this great decline does not have to mean the end of western civilization. Weimar Germany experienced what we are going through to a greater or less degree. Then came Hitler who led the Germans back to their traditional way of life. It was a great Renaissance where classical music came back to its rightful place where it should have never left. We are just beginning to recognize Hitlers great significance. So now we know the way back if we have it in us to make it a reality. Of course we have that phony holocaust story that has been pounded into our consciousness for so many years. We have some big choices to make if we have it in us to save our great civilization.

    • Thanks: Schuetze
    • Replies: @Schuetze
    , @Peter Akuleyev
  101. Andy says:

    I don’t know how really “marxist” is this dismissal of the western tradition in the arts. Certainly the Soviet Union showed a lot of respect towards Classical Music – even if it had some composers were occasionally shot – believing it to be much superior to American postwar popular culture. Even the Frankfurt School has one of its ranking members, Adorno, thinking along these lines. I think this attack on the Western tradition started with the decolonization movement after the war. Non-western people hated the fact that they were subjugated by the West for several centuries and this degenerated into a hatred for all things western…

    • Replies: @Bad goy
  102. Sparkon says:

    Yes, although this whole modern art scam goes back to at least Pablo Picasso, who was more responsible than any other single artist in the 20th century for destroying the classical forms, and was a rapist, to boot. The struggling Spanish artist found not only favor but salvation with a number of rich and influential collectors like Daniel-Henry Kahnweiler in Germany, Sergei Shchukin in Russia, Albert C. Barnes in the United States along with influential chatterboxes like lesbian novelist Gertrude Stein. Yes, she was Jewish, as was her lover, Alice B. Toklas.

    Gertrude Stein (L), Alice B. Toklas (R), Basket, Standard Poodle, Man of the House (C)

    During the rags stage of his rags to riches journey to fame, Picasso roomed for a time with poet and critic Max Jacob:

    Jacob, who was Jewish, claimed to have had a vision of Christ in 1909, and converted to Catholicism. He was hopeful that this conversion would alleviate his homosexual tendencies.

    — Wikipedia

  103. @RJ Macready

    No one should worry about climate change or unicorns or systemic racism.

  104. Bad goy says:
    @Andy

    Andy, you can watch this video to help you understand the role of the Jews in our current situation.

    • Replies: @Andy
  105. Schuetze says:
    @Bookish1

    “Then came Hitler who led the Germans back to their traditional way of life. It was a great Renaissance where classical music came back to its rightful place where it should have never left”

    Hilter was a man of the people, which is one of the big reasons why the aristocratic Prussian Junkers like Canaris and Goering stabbed him in the back. I have no evidence that Hitler loved German Volksmusik, but I am certain that he did.

    In comment 95 “I’m Tyrone” writes: “The most unique contribution of western music to world civilization is harmony”. Volksmusik is full of harmony, we can be certain that Hitler loved it.

    Here is a link to a 24 hour/day Swiss Jodel channel. Brilliant harmony, beautiful voices. Click on the Play “>” button:

    https://www.radiotell.ch/radiotell/module/radio/radiopanel.asp?channel=04

    Here is a link to 24 hour/day Swiss Ländler Musik. Harmonious alphorns, Accordeons, Clarinets and other great Volkmusik:

    https://www.radiotell.ch/radiotell/module/radio/radiopanel.asp?channel=01

    • Replies: @Old Palo Altan
  106. @Aspiring Rapper and Honor Student

    Billy Eillish (Hellish?) did an interview 2 years ago.
    She (?) spent 2 minutes talking about how much she enjoyed bowel movements.
    It was very surreal. There is something very wrong with this person aside from her love for Lucifer.

    • Agree: 36 ulster
    • Replies: @A Dolphin Haydn
  107. Biden’s best musical friends – Lady Gaga and Cardi B. Though I doubt he sniffs them too much.

    • Replies: @JustOneTimeOnly
  108. You’re off by a hundred years. The Destruction of Classical Music as a Popular Art From began at the turn of the twentieth century. It was the fault mostly of record companies and rich people, who turned it from an art form as popular amongst the common people as baseball or rock and roll, to an elite museum spectacle. In 1900, the great unwashed used to pack to the gills what were known as “the gods,” i.e., the cheap seats, often standing-room-only, way up in the highest balcony. They used to follow classical stars like they follow sports and movie stars today, fan magazines and clubs, swooning young women, ticker-tape parades, and all.

    But the record companies decided to demographize the art, as is their wont, and sell it to the upper classes, as a bit of conspicuous consumption to differentiate them from the common run.

    Thus, let the commoners eat halupkes and the rich only eat the cake.

    Just like they demographized American music into country and blues. What used to be just “music” was given labels by record companies. The records they marketed at blacks were called “blues.” The records they marketed at whites were called “hillbilly,” and then “country.” Even when it was the same songs, or even the same artists.

    You won’t find this fact on the intranets. You have to read old books like I do.

  109. 36 ulster says:
    @awry

    The Irish? Them too, eh? I never envisioned them in the vanguard, but in support of The Usual Suspects?

  110. @AncientSoul

    Thank you. You equally oppose both the anti-racist race-baiters and the racist race-baiters (so endemic on here). Eggsackly! By Iove, you’ve got it!

    • Replies: @AncientSoul
  111. 36 ulster says:
    @Alexandros

    Frank Gehry immediately comes to mind. Confronted with Las Vegas’s Chuck E. Cheese-ish aesthetics, he decided to eschew his usual banal brutishness and go ugly. The alleged “Center for Brain Health” was the result.

  112. Anonymous[344] • Disclaimer says:
    @theMann

    I for one, have zero desire to ever hear west african ‘music’.

  113. R2b says:
    @Vojkan

    Thank you
    It is truly an expression of love.
    Axis of Awesome wasn’t bad either.

  114. anon[283] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jake

    Many Mohammedans assume that they will have another run of large scale run, but if they do it will be just like those of the past: Jews per capita will direct and prosper most. Like Christian heresy, Mohammedanism, once Western cultures are subdued, always sees Jews rise and control from the wings.

    Jews in the wings are entirely a Western phenomena. Late Ottomans, sure, but that is precisely becuase Ottoman proximity to Europe.

    Our Jews were well behaved. Your Jews — properly your “king’s Jews” — were brought in because you Westerners couldn’t manage administrating realms without them. You still can’t do it. You still rely on them to run the system. This whole anti-semitism crap is entirely a Western production. Your “kings” use this prop to direct your anger at the Jew.

    Muslim empires relied on Persians to administer the realm, because Persians had 1000 years proven experience in running 3 multi-national empires.

    > “Mohammadans”.
    Your mama!

    • Disagree: Robert Dolan
  115. R2b says:
    @Badger Down

    Are you kidding?
    This is imitation on horse-back.

  116. @Wally

    Wally, I might agree with you except for this magnificent piece, his ‘Violin Concerto in E Minor.’ In my view, one of the greatest of all time!

  117. Schuetze says:
    @I'm Tyrone

    I would like to touch on one aspect of harmony having to do with mind control.

    The Grateful Dead, like the Beatles and the Rolling Stones, was an astroturf mind control band. The Freemasons and their joined at the hip Zionist overlords had long been steering and controlling music to their own talmudic ends.

    In the early 1960’s, with the advent of amplified electronic music and the electric guitar, the CIA, MI5/Tavistock and other Zionist/Masonic organizations saw the opportunity to deploy electrically amplified mind control music. At Tavistock the English scientists, who were in effect Zionist serfs, brought out The Beatles at the start, and later the Rolling Stones took it one level higher. In California, where Stanford Research was busy prostituting themselves to the Illuminati globalists, the CIA were working on MKUltra and mind control through LSD. The Manson family was one of their projects, as was the entire Laurel Canyon scene.

    In San Francisco, close to Stanford, they had an different operation going. Through Owsley Stanley and Stanford Research they started spiking koolaid and anything else they could find at free rock concerts with free LSD. Owsley Stanley, along with Niel Cassidy and Ken Kesey also worked on the Electric Koolaid Acid Tests where the developed and tuned their mind control music to work on young adults heavily dosed with the free LSD they had procured from Sandoz in Switzerland.

    As they find tuned this music, and the Grateful Dead and related Bay Area bands like Airplane and Doobie Brothers became famous, they were also fine tuning their masonic mind control music. In the early 1970’s the Grateful Dead went on tour using Owsley’s “wall of sound” that he had created out of components provided by US naval intelligence.

    It is my contention that much of their MKultra mind control was based on the use of harmonics created mostly by the highly amplified electric guitar. This sound weapon was created and initually used only in the San Francisco bay area, but later was tested and weaponized world wide.

    Here are two examples of the amplified harmonics of developed in the Bay Area:

    (Fast forward to 24:45 for the harmonics if the “current time” doesn’t work)

    Here is another well known bay area band of that era, Quick Silver Messenger Service.

    (Fast forward to 14:40 for the harmonics if the “current time” doesn’t work)

  118. The advancement of technology is the main reason why creativity in the arts is spluttering to a halt.

    And especially these days, when I can listen to any great music/read any great book/watch any great film, etc, I want, whenever I so choose, immediately, and in a variety of ways. And often entirely free of charge, once the necessary equipment has been bought.

    I’ve reached a point where I feel absolutely no necessity to so much as glance at anything new when there is so much greatness that has already been created – more perhaps than I could ever process and consume within my lifetime – much less feel the need to create anything original myself.

  119. You are truly FOS and the truth is the opposite of what you say.

    The actual cycle is that whites gain freedom from usury by expelling the jews….then the jews scheme and sneak and buy their way back in……then the jews do their usual financial chicanery and get evicted…..rinse and repeat over 100 times.

    Whites PROSPER when the jews get kicked out….and whites suffer as soon as jews are able to install a new central bank and get their claws into the populace.

    Hitler famously ignited the German economy by booting the jews out and turned things around in record time.

    The small hats are woefully inept at any sort of social management or administration…..all they know how to do is use force. Why do you think that communism is such a deadly ideology?

    You are nuttier than a pecan pie.

    • Replies: @anon
  120. bayviking says:

    Let us not conflate the artist and their art with stinking lying politics. Just because Michaelangelo was one of the greatest artists the world has ever seen, doesn’t mean he believed in Catholicism or even Christianity. The poor guy just had to make a living the best way he could.

  121. Fiddling with the words of a 200 year old work of genius, such as The Abduction from the Seraglio, is pure idiocy, but insults the librettist, Gottlieb Stephanie (if the opera was being sung in German)more than the composer.

  122. @xyzxy

    Are you not forgeting Mendelssohn? Let’s face it-the Golden Age of Western music ended c.1900, and thereafter it hung on for a few more decades in the Soviet Union, and now is comatose. For various reasons a succession of geniuses who hardly ever wrote a work that was not inspired, Bach, Beethoven, Haydn, Mozart, Schubert, Chopin and a few others, perhaps ending, or culminating if you prefer, in Wagner, appeared, and then they were gone. The musical Gods Upon the Earth went elsewhere, and probably will never return. As for Jews, well they concentrated on performance, and where would the list of virtuosi be without its Jewish members?

    • Replies: @Thomasina
  123. @Miha

    And Chinese universities study Western classics and Greek and other thought. From pure intellectual curiosity and an understanding of humanity’s common heritage and destiny. They appreciate Western music and their own, and one trusts will grow to appreciate all music, from wherever it derives, but that will ever remain a matter of personal ‘taste’. The Chinese are curious, and the poor dead West is the one where differing opinions have been proscribed as anathema, and lunatic verities are immune to contestation or examination.

    • Replies: @Thomasina
  124. And then there is The Killer as Iago

  125. @Schuetze

    60’s music definitely contributed to the long march to “break down the patriarchy.”

    For the most part the music celebrated rebellion for the sake of rebellion.

    It was the music of the sexual revolution and the anything goes mentality.

    Open sex and homosexuality were promoted and a number of rock stars hyped their bi-sexuality,
    “satanism,” and celebrated drug abuse.

    Jagger, Bowie, and countless others paved the way for sexual experimentation and drug use.

    As I’ve grown older and learned more I can see that the 60’s was really the triumph of the jewish false consciousness…..and the overthrow of the Christian social order.

    The small hats used everything at their disposal; art, music, movies, television, novels, magazines, etc., to get the goyim to “think jewishly,” and to abandon their own cultural traditions.

    And now the fruits of the destruction are becoming apparent for all to see, as white Christian Americans are labeled as pure evil and blood libel is poured all over them.

    • Replies: @Schuetze
  126. @RJ Macready

    Please do everyone a big favor and STFU.

    Thanks in advance.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
  127. Thomasina says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    AncientSoul is correct, it is a divide and conquer scheme used by the upper class. Their aim is to keep us divided and fighting so that we don’t start looking at them.

    And you are also correct when you say: “…when different races come in contact as more numerous populations – not just individuals – they develop different & generally antagonistic racial-cultural consciousness & identities. They function as different ‘peoples’.”

    Yeah, especially when you intentionally and continually disparage the host population, criticize and ridicule its institutions, flood it with legal/illegal immigrants, dilute it with as many ethnicities, races and religions as you can, take over its media and its central bank, and bribe/blackmail or threaten its politicians. A virtual destruction of the host population in order to better serve what the masters want.

    It’s a recipe for disaster – no nation, no country, no glue, no bond. Works for the elites because they don’t care whether we kill each other, so long as we keep paying taxes and buying their consumer products.

    The only way to get the country/culture back is to go after those who are purposely destroying it and send them packing.

    Of course it’s a class war. It’s always been a class war.

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  128. Thomasina says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    The Chinese are not curious. Studious, yes, and good copiers, but they are not curious. Had they been curious, they wouldn’t have had to copy everything the West has accomplished.

    • Replies: @raga10
    , @Mulga Mumblebrain
  129. Thomasina says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    I guess if you can’t compose, then perform.

    “The musical Gods Upon the Earth went elsewhere, and probably will never return.”

    I’m quite certain they’ll be back.

    You remind me of that pilot who purposely commandeered that passenger plane into the side of a mountain. He too must have been gleeful at the prospect of seeing something destroyed.

    Maybe see a shrink or something.

  130. @Thomasina

    It’s a race war and it’s always been a race war.

    The reason for the race war is that a tiny but very powerful ethnic group believes that it has a divine mission to fuck everybody else over.

    Saying it’s a “class war” is standard (and very tired) marxist rhetoric.

    We are obviously engaged in a racial spoils system where every race (except for whites) plays on their own ethnic team….and then also plays on the larger non-white team against whites.

    As the government demonizes one half of its’ own citizens (white Christian people) it’s very hard to claim that the socially engineered ethnic cleansing is based on class.

    • Replies: @Thomasina
    , @raga10
  131. Kevx says:
    @RJ Macready

    do you understand the difference between living and existence? you remind me of the govermentals in the kenau reeves movie – the day the earth stood still

  132. mcohen says:

    Went down to safeway the other day and while standing in the yogurt section I heard the most beautiful music.The open refrigerators were humming and the sound was being played out through the unusually designed bulkhead above them.
    Truly awesome man.Mofart and beefhoven put to shame.Boring used by date expired pop stars from 400 years ago .
    Remember in all art
    Once the moment of contact has expired,the orgasm played out,it goes to the funeral home called museums

    Stevie ray vaughn and Albert King.Classical music from another era

    • LOL: Mulegino1
  133. Kevx says:
    @anon

    i see what you did there – and i witness against you. You built up a pretty decent argument then.. slid in an emotional attack. yes, i know them by their work!

  134. @Schuetze

    Do you have source materials for these claims? I have the late Kevin McGowan’s book about Laurel Canyon and I’m interested in building a collection on the subject.

    • Replies: @Schuetze
  135. Classical music is boring.

    • LOL: HeebHunter
    • Replies: @HeebHunter
    , @CCG
  136. Thomasina says:
    @Robert Dolan

    I agree with you too. I just think it’s BOTH – a class war AND a race war. I don’t know Marx from a hole in the ground, so you can’t accuse me of “marxist rhetoric”. Never felt inclined to read his stuff.

    The elite are looting like crazy (and have been for decades now). They’re shredding the Constitution, and they’re bringing in immigrants who wouldn’t know the difference. They’re keeping the split between Red and Blue right around 50/50, and if they have to rig an election to do it, they will. Their press, another arm of the elites, are lying through their teeth. The jobs were offshored, and monopolies are everywhere you look. China, and the U.S. multinationals who set up shop there, are laughing all the way to the bank. The Middle Class is being decimated.

    Both Democrats and Republicans are calling January 6th an “insurrection”, and nobody was jailed over orchestrating the ridiculous two-year-long Russiagate hoax. They rigged the election, and the Supreme Court refused to hear the facts. In fact, no one has ever heard the facts. Covid was manufactured as well, conveniently allowing the Federal Reserve to pump trillions into the banks.

    So who are they doing THIS for? Joe and Becky from Syracuse? No, they’re doing it to protect themselves, their way of life, the system they’ve set up that sends almost all money to the top.

    Of course it’s a class war.

    But it’s also a race war. I know diversity does not make a country; it destroys it. You must have a host population with a host culture in order to make a nation. But the elite are baiting all races at present, with the help of the media. They want a race war. It’s a “look over there” diversion for them while they loot. “Go kill each other.”

    They are willing to destroy the country and bleed it until it rolls over on its back. They don’t care. Anything to keep the money rolling in. They have no allegiance to the rabble. Do you believe they’re actually allowing the South American illegals to flood across the border because they care? Or is it again all about their corporate donors padding their pocketbooks?

    And even if the elite were legitimately trying to keep people out (they’re not), there will eventually be a race war. It’s inevitable.

    It’s inevitable because they have intentionally ruined the country.

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  137. Jake says:
    @Papa

    The terror of that very possibility is what drives both the Neocon Jews and Liberal Jews to fits of frothing insanity over Putin and Russia.

    Jews know the enemy they wish to exterminate, and it is not democracy, not capitalism, not ‘the West,’ not the USA, not even all nations defined by people with white skin. It is historic Christianity and any possibility of a revival of Christendom.

  138. Vigilius says:

    Do you like Brahms ?

    • Replies: @ricpic
  139. @Thomasina

    Yes, the destruction is deliberate/intentional.

    I don’t think they want a 50/50 split at all. They mean to completely and totally destroy whites with open borders/demographics, end of filibuster, adding two states, no rules for voting, etc.,etc.,etc.

    We are looking at a permanent leftist USA just like California….a favela hell with small hat rulers.

    Biden actually met with “historians” to see what exactly he can get away with right up to the edge of civil war.

    It’s not about money at all. It’s about the complete destruction of white Christian people.

    • Replies: @Thomasina
  140. raga10 says:
    @Thomasina

    Had they been curious, they wouldn’t have had to copy everything the West has accomplished.

    For example gunpowder, paper, compass, seismograph or pasta… /sarcasm

    • Replies: @Thomasina
  141. raga10 says:
    @Robert Dolan

    Saying it’s a “class war” is standard (and very tired) marxist rhetoric.

    It might be standard and tired, but that’s because it’s true. Proof lies in the fact that countries that were/are racially and culturally homogenous suffer from the same conflicts as the diverse ones; in fact there lines are drawn more obviously along the class lines, making them easier to see. When diversity is available to be used, ruling elites are perfectly happy to exploit it as the tool to divide and conquer but Marx was right: in the end it’s class, it’s always class!

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  142. Thomasina says:
    @raga10

    I doubt you want me to put together a list of what the West has accomplished. I’ll leave it there.

    I’m not saying the Chinese are stupid. I just don’t see them as being curious.

    • Replies: @raga10
    , @Mulga Mumblebrain
  143. @Schuetze

    Thank you Schuetze, well said.
    I became aware of how music was used in the ’60’s for the purposes of destruction only 3 or so years ago.
    Around a year ago I came across something very,very interesting. This source discussed how a Turkish medical doctor in the 17-18thc had worked on using music in healing. The article mentioned how certain scales-modes of music were not used in Turkish music as they were considered simplistic, childish and were considered to induce delinquency and other anti-social behaviour.

    These are precisely the scales used in ‘rock and roll’. I saw rock music as destructive and degenerate before I read that and had stopped listening to it. I can’t stand hearing the popular music from 1960 and on. It is anti-human and largely moronic.
    This is by design. Destroy people by destroying culture.
    This tattoo, piercing, moron music, rap, crap, garbage video stuff is all over the world now. Very few places seem to withstand ‘Americàn culture’.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  144. ricpic says:
    @Vigilius

    Very much so. That said, the German dominance of classical music is too great. The French have a very different sound, not so grand, more intimate and quite appealing. I recently discovered Francis Poulenc. Why he remains “minor” escapes me.

    • Replies: @DC Nate
  145. Thomasina says:
    @Robert Dolan

    “It’s not about money at all. It’s about the complete destruction of white Christian people.”

    Yes, but why would they want the White Christian people destroyed? There has to be a motive for it. People don’t just go after people for no reason. It takes a lot of effort, time, collusion, and lying to do something like that. Whites really are a threat to them. Why?

    It’s because Whites are the only people who know the importance of the Constitution. It’s because Whites are waking up to what’s going on; the others aren’t. Whites are angry that the Middle Class is disappearing, angry over the immigration policy. They remember the way their country used to be not so long ago and they want it back. It’s because if Whites joined together, they COULD put a stop to this. There is still time.

    The elites know this. The elites have a plan to diversify the U.S. to the point where no one group has any power at all – one big melting pot of nothing. Just tax slaves and consumers. No country for anyone. I don’t think they’re solely after Christians. I could be wrong, but I think if Muslims were the majority, then they’d have been targeted.

    It’s about power and control. The elites do not want the U.S. going back to what it used to be. They are making far too much money off the China pipeline and globalization. Whites would want jobs returned. Whites would want immigration halted. Whites would want fair elections. Whites would want to end Citizens United. No can do.

    Follow the money.

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  146. Mike321 says:

    Re: the “Goin’ Home” theme in the Largo movement of Dvorak’s New World Symphony: I was told once by the conductor of the college symphony orchestra that I played in that Dvorak didn’t borrow that tune from a Negro spiritual that he heard during his travels in America, but that the composer of the spiritual borrowed it from Dvorak! If I’m wrong about this I will be grateful to any musicologist out there who can correct me.

  147. @aspnaz

    My experience is the exact opposite. I can no longer tolerate the garbage coming out of Western “culture”. There seems to be more emphasis on promoting sexual perversion and deviance than anything else. I reviewed some US American YA books a while back and a common strain in them was: mentally ill teens/young adults, no family life or bad family life, promiscuous, dabbling in alcohol and/or drugs, no great ambition or goals, just a completely self-centered whine-fest of entitlement. If I were a parent, I wouldn’t let my children read such crap. I once used to think banning books was bad, but, after seeing how everything good and noble is being denigrated, I am starting to think it is perfectly justifiable to ban some, if only to stop them from poisoning healthy young minds.

    • Replies: @Kevin Barrett
  148. anon[204] • Disclaimer says:
    @Robert Dolan

    You are truly FOS and the truth is the opposite of what you say.

    I guess this was directed at me. Let’s take this moron’s comment apart.

    The actual cycle is that whites gain freedom from usury by expelling the jews….then the jews scheme and sneak and buy their way back in……then the jews do their usual financial chicanery and get evicted…..rinse and repeat over 100 times.

    Stupid bigot. This is precisely why your “White” rulers use the Jews as a shield. You guys grow like mushrooms in YT land. How many centuries this has been going on and your type is still clueless. It is truly amazing.

    This is actually how the “cycle” works. Jews are invited by sovereigns of YT to do the dirty deeds that the Church forbids. They get the protection of YT rulers in their activities. Otherwise, dear bigot, how did the Jew enforced the usurious contract?

    In Muslim lands, the sovereigns enforced the religious prohibition of usury. In Muslim lands, the Jews practiced medicine, or were merchants. No usury. A bigot like you needs to reflect on why the (no doubt inferior in your mind) Muslims managed to keep the Jews in check.

    In fact, there was once a YT who even wrote a play about the Jew and the YT who entered into a usurios contract. The climax of that play is in the court of the Doge of Venice, where the money lender seeks enforcement of the contract. Get it, moron?

    Hate rots brains.

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  149. @Badger Down

    Thanks. That was beautiful! I listen to a lot of music from China, Mongolia, and Korea. A lot of it is excellent. The Chinese and Korean dramas too.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
  150. Andy says:
    @Bad goy

    yes, of course, I’m familiar with the work of Dr. McDonald. Jews pretty much run the Soviet Union in its first years. Once Stalin came and curbed their power, the Soviet Union become in some ways a very conservative country, culturally.

    • Replies: @Bad goy
  151. @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    Listen again to the difference between Psalm 137 from Hebrew Scripture, and Verdi’s version of the same in Va Pensiero from Nabucco.

    Hebrew scripture:

    We hanged our harps upon the willows in the midst thereof.
    For there they that carried us away captive required of us a song; and they that wasted us required of us mirth, saying, Sing us one of the songs of Zion.
    How shall we sing the Lord’s song in a strange land?
    . . .

    Verdi:

    Oh my country so beautiful and lost!
    Oh so dear yet unhappy!
    Golden harp of the prophetic seers,
    why do you hang silent from the willows?
    Rekindle the memories within our hearts,
    tell us about the time that have gone by
    . . .

    Hebrew (final verse):

    O daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be, that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us.
    Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.

    Verdi, (final verse):

    let the Lord inspire a concert
    That may give to endure our suffering.

  152. @theMann

    Thanks. I have listened to a lot of good music from Guinea.

  153. Sorry but capitalism is not compatible with tradition. Capitalism has to tear down tradition, it has to constantly create new forms of culture to remain profitable. If you do not like all the woke nonsense and social engineering taking place, then you do not like capitalism. Sorry but you guys can’t just complain about all the symptoms of capitalism, and call it Marxism, its not.

    Its malarkey being peddled by the CIA to poison the well of Marxism. Psychological warfare tactics to sow division among the proles to prevent overthrow of capitalism. Nice try, but its still not “cultural marxism”

    https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch01.htm

    The bourgeoisie cannot exist without constantly revolutionising the instruments of production, and thereby the relations of production, and with them the whole relations of society. Conservation of the old modes of production in unaltered form, was, on the contrary, the first condition of existence for all earlier industrial classes. Constant revolutionising of production, uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions, everlasting uncertainty and agitation distinguish the bourgeois epoch from all earlier ones. All fixed, fast-frozen relations, with their train of ancient and venerable prejudices and opinions, are swept away, all new-formed ones become antiquated before they can ossify. All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses his real conditions of life, and his relations with his kind.

    Check out this documentary, 4 parts

  154. @Thomasina

    Nah. It’s not really about the money.

    They like money…..but their overall agenda is power.

    Hollywood, big tech, and news media happily lose money to push the anti-white ideology.

    No, it’s about their atavistic hatred of white Christian people.

    The nose always shits the bed. Always. 109 times.
    During Weimar the small hats had taken over just about everything (just like now)
    In theater and film and academia they shat on all things German and Christian. They turned Berlin into a cesspool of drugs and fags and child sex slaves and every form of degeneracy imaginable.
    Communist jews were on the verge of taking over the entire country.
    And then the money went bad, which was the last straw for the German people.

    If it was just about money they would never have locked down the economies of the western world.

    No, it’s far more sinister than simple greed.

    • Replies: @Thomasina
  155. PolarBear says:

    Hip hop is like a short bus “singy song”, very simple and easy. Classical music can tap into all human emotions.

  156. @raga10

    I don’t think marx was right about anything.

    No, countries that are racially homogenous do NOT suffer from the same conflicts as diverse ones.
    It’s not even comparable.

    Robert Puttnam’s famous study revealed the awful truth regarding diversity….that it destroys cultural trust and cohesion.

    I’ll repeat what I said before because it didn’t seem to faze you. We are NOT in any sort of a class war. It’s absurd to make such a claim when it’s OBVIOUS that whites have been singled out for demonization and blood libel. The dispossession, ethnic cleansing, oppression, and victimization of whites isn’t limited to a certain class but is uniform and applied to all whites in general. So, it’s ridiculous to claim that the current regime targets whites because of “class.”

    • Replies: @raga10
  157. raga10 says:
    @Thomasina

    I doubt you want me to put together a list of what the West has accomplished.

    No need, I am well aware of our accomplishments but I don’t feel the need to put others down in order to feel better about myself. Chinese are neither stupid or lacking curiosity as such; their culture just developed somewhat differently. It’s true that on the national level they have been more insular but when they start to look outside of their borders they become a threat and you’re not going to like that either, are you?
    (I know that I don’t, and I’m not about to underestimate them)

    • Replies: @Thomasina
  158. [Too much off-topic material. Stop spamming.]

  159. raga10 says:
    @Robert Dolan

    Robert Puttnam’s famous study revealed the awful truth regarding diversity….that it destroys cultural trust and cohesion.

    I don’t disagree with that; I just think all that “cultural trust and cohesion” is somewhat overrated. It doesn’t actually make up for the fact that the rich always screw the poor and even more broadly, those in power always exploit those without it – that’s what I mean when I say “it’s always about class”. To point out the obvious, Western Europe in time of Marx was fairly homogenous – yet social injustice was rife enough for him to create Marxism in response.

  160. Thomasina says:
    @raga10

    “It’s true that on the national level they have been more insular but when they start to look outside of their borders they become a threat and you’re not going to like that either, are you?”

    Now why would China want to start throwing her weight around when she’s got a sweet deal going with the U.S. multinationals? The Chinese elite have never had it so good. They’re loving their U.S./Chinese partnership profits and are too busy fleeing to the West.

    Any posturing between the two countries is merely for show, just to make it look like there’s some sort of animosity. There’s not.

    Beijing Biden is in the house and open for bribes.

    • Replies: @raga10
  161. @theMann

    Jimmy Page and JPJ would have a field day with those sounds- great post.

  162. Schuetze says:
    @Jefferson Temple

    I have McGowan’s book and used to read/listen to him up until his death. This theory about the harmonics is something I came up with. I do know of a few blogs where music and mind control is discussed:

    Steve Outrim’s blog is a great source of alternative information, I am certain you could spend weeks going through his archive. He also writes about burning man and how drugs, music, Silicon Valley tech worker bees and SV moguls merge once a year. He used to have a great twitter feed until the “cancelled” him.

    https://burners.me/

    Jay Dyer has a great blog and he often gets into music and mind control. He also has written several books.

    https://jaysanalysis.com

    Mark Devlin focuses a lot on the Beatles. Of course Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club is probably “The Classic” music-mind control album of the late 1960’s.

    https://musicaltruthbook.blogspot.com/

    • Thanks: Jefferson Temple
    • Replies: @Jefferson Temple
  163. Thomasina says:
    @Robert Dolan

    “Nah. It’s not really about the money. They like money…..but their overall agenda is power.”

    Power IS money. Believe me, if there wasn’t any money in it, they wouldn’t be doing it.

    “Hollywood, big tech, and news media happily lose money to push the anti-white ideology.”

    Yes, but they’re not banking on losing money forever. They’re hoping it’s a short-term play, like a bigger fish crushing its smaller competitor by reducing their prices, thereby taking the small fish out. They’re figuring to recoup their losses when the small fish dies.

    “No, it’s about their atavistic hatred of white Christian people.”

    Yes, I can agree with you there. They don’t like any society that has their own culture and traditions. These things just get in the way of their plans. Like another poster said above, capitalism has got to keep moving. Like a shark, it can’t stop. It must keep reinventing itself. The White Christian people were milked for all they had. They have outlived their usefulness (at least in the elite minds).

    Look how they went after Hitler when he changed Germany’s money system. The elite are deathly afraid that the Whites will want to try something similar. The elite are trying to get out in front of that possibility and crush it.

    They don’t care if they have to destroy the country to do it. To them it is worth the price. They have no allegiance; they are psychopathic in thought.

    One poster above said you can either have capitalism or tradition, but you can’t have both. At least I think that’s what he said. I’ll have to think about that.

    All elite are involved. They need to be stopped.

    • Replies: @Bookish1
    , @Robert Dolan
  164. Schuetze says:
    @Robert Dolan

    “Jagger, Bowie, and countless others paved the way for sexual experimentation and drug use.”

    Each new music “sound” is accompanied by a new drug or a new mixture of drugs. Blues and Jazz initiated with alcohol and marijuana, Of course there was also morphium and opium available then. Rock and Roll brought Marijuana into mainstream white culture. Of course “Acid Rock” was the fusion of LSD, Marijuana and highly amplified music. I think Bowie and Jagger had a lot to do with heroin being pushed on white and black communities. Disco was almost synonymous with Cocaine. ecstasy seems to be related to electronic music with incredibly fast beat drum machines. I am not sure if any specific drug was linked to different flavors of Classical music, but I would not be at all surprised if they were.

    I remember when “New Wave” music hit in the late 70’s. It was linked to new synthetic drugs like MDA(?) and Speed. Isn’t funny how they were using new “Musical Waves” to promote music in the 1970’s the same way they use “Waves” to push their plandemic? Instead of New Wave Music we have Third Wave Variants.

    • Replies: @Schuetze
  165. @Johnny Johnny

    I-IV-V-vi. Or any combination there of.

    • Replies: @Johnny Johnny
  166. Alfred says:
    @Badger Down

    Back in the 1960’s, in Franco’s Spain, in Sitges, a couple of kids from Paris used to do something like this. In fact, they were much better. One had bleached blond hair and the other was of Vietnamese origin. They were small and skinny – like these Chinese. They did it to soul music. Everyone watching was amused. They had no problem attracting Swedish girls. A favourite location for doing this was next to the swimming pool in the photo.

    This was long before Michael Jackson and his moonwalk.

    The Chinese kids are like automaton’s. They have no soul – a favourite phrase of your president. 🙂

    [MORE]

  167. SOL says:
    @The Alarmist

    British TV is so converged.

  168. Vojkan says:

    How do you recognise a nazi dolt? They change colour when you mention Brahms or Mendelssohn. The former because he wasn’t on best terms with Wagner, read he didn’t fawn over Wagner, plus he kickstarted Dvořák’s career; the latter because he was a kike, uncircumcised because his father left Judaism, but a kike nonetheless and kikes are genetically incapable of beauty, aren’t they?

    [MORE]

    and

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Midsummer_Night’s_Dream_(Mendelssohn)

    Classical music doesn’t need “racialized” enemies with white defenders like the Shicklgruber’s fan club.

  169. @Father O'Hara

    Right chea, right chea.
    Western boi just proved why Asia, not just China, will surpass the (((west))) for good this time.

  170. CCG says:
    @Father O'Hara

    Agreed. Earlier eras (Baroque, etc.) are more interesting.

  171. @aspnaz

    I have never seen a country with less culture than China,

    I suppose you have never been to the UAE? Dubai in particular is the ultimate expression of man as economic animal with no other purpose in life other than conspicuous consumption and reproduction.

    There are still pockets of interesting literary culture in China, but if you don’t speak Mandarin you won’t find them.

    • Replies: @CCG
  172. @Bookish1

    Then came Hitler who led the Germans back to their traditional way of life.

    He did no such thing. He tried to turn Germany into an imperial centralized state on the French or Russian model. Traditionally “Germany” had been a patchwork quilt of independent principalities and free cities, united by a common culture and nominal allegiance to the “Holy Roman” Emperor. 18th and 19th century “Germany” was an amazingly fertile cultural landscape that included even regions with significant German minorities (Bohemia, the Baltics, Transylvania, etc.), and it was the lack of any central power that created amazing cross fertilization of different cultural traditions all united by a German identity. Hitler saw most of German’s regional traditions as signs of weaknesses that needed to be eliminated in the quest to transform Germany into a “modern” power. It is no accident that Hitler chose ancient Rome as the inspiration for Nazi pageantry and architecture, not medieval Germany.

    • Agree: Schuetze
    • Replies: @Bookish1
    , @Siegfriedson
  173. raga10 says:
    @Thomasina

    Now why would China want to start throwing her weight around when she’s got a sweet deal going with the U.S. multinationals? […] Any posturing between the two countries is merely for show, just to make it look like there’s some sort of animosity. There’s not.

    You are thinking about it purely in terms of US-China relations and you might be right as far as that goes, but the world is bigger than that. Where Chinese are actually throwing their weight around (and making good progress, too) is in Asia, Africa, Oceania and Eastern Europe to some extent.

  174. @Franz

    They have one presenter – a Mr. Alan Yentob – his annual salary amounts to £330,000.($450,000) for the meagre work he does present. He has had a nice little number at the BBC for over 50 years, and upon retirement, he will receive £216,667 ($298k) annually for the rest of his life. This is money from license payers’ mandatory fee of £160 a year – per household with a t.v.

    One of his so-called triumphs was a documentary featuring Marina Abramovic and her freak show. It was produced by Martin Rosenbaum, no doubt one of his friends.

    The Commons Public Administration & Constitutional Affairs Committee report heavily criticised Alan Yentob. He was described as someone who condoned excessive spending and lacked proper attention to his duties.

    • Replies: @Franz
  175. CCG says:
    @Peter Akuleyev

    Is this lack of ‘high culture’ today in mainland Chinese society a result of the Cultural Revolution? Does Taiwan have the same cultural poverty?

  176. Malla says:
    @PlumAvocado

    That was beautiful! I listen to a lot of music from China, Mongolia, and Korea. A lot of it is excellent. The Chinese and Korean dramas too.

    Agreed, East Asians have some awesome music. Some of the Chinese folkish/pop songs (let alone Chinese classical music) are pretty awesome. Very beautiful.

    費玉清 Yu-Ching Fei 一翦梅 Yi Jian Mei (popular as “xue hua piao piao bei feng xiao xiao”)
    Check out the English translation of the above beautiful Chinese song. Far better and profound than the crap coming out of modern Western music now a days.
    [Verse]
    My love is as wide as a grassland
    Layers upon layer of wind and rain cannot separate us

    [MORE]

    The clouds eventually clear and the sun shines
    The sun shines on you and me
    My love is like a blossoming plum flower
    The cold snow will never cover it
    It blooms on the coldest day
    And leads us to the spring

    [Chorus]
    The snow falls and the north wind blows
    The world is vast and boundless
    A cut of plum blossoms stands proudly in the snow
    Its perfume is only for one person
    I will always love whom I love without complaint and regret
    This love is always in my heart

    [Instrumental Break]

    [Chorus]
    The snow falls and the north wind blows
    The world is vast and boundless
    A cut of plum blossoms stands proudly in the snow
    Its perfume is only for one person
    I will always love whom I love without complaint and regret
    This love is always in my heart

    [Instrumental Break]

    [Chorus]
    The snow falls and the north wind blows
    The world is vast and boundless
    A cut of plum blossoms stands proudly in the snow
    Its perfume is only for one person
    I will always love whom I love without complaint and regret
    This love is always in my heart

    • Thanks: Arthur MacBride
  177. @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    Ah, but YOU spent 2 minutes LISTENING to that so that is the operative issue…

  178. Malla says:
    @PlumAvocado

    Some of the Old Japanese Songs as well

    秋桜 Yoko Nagayama – 長山洋子 Cosmos
    English Lyrics translation in video.
    Again very deep compared to today’s crap music.

  179. @raga10

    Where Chinese are actually throwing their weight around (and making good progress, too) is in Asia, Africa, Oceania and Eastern Europe to some extent.

    The Chinese are as you say making good progress in those areas. But not by “throwing their weight around”, which implies policies like forcible regime change, funding internal dissent (multiple groups), ngo’s, promotion of “democracy”, sexual perversions, burning food crops, military attack ( last resort when you have only crap military).
    All these are practiced by the zio-satanic west, aka “fukus” …

    By comparison the Chinese wish to foster good lasting trade relationships which benefit their clients, such as those with Australia (until recently). Such policies have lifted hundreds of millions out of abject poverty whereas zio-freemason fukus has had the opposite effect, not only on their many targets but also their own pops.

  180. Bookish1 says:
    @Thomasina

    I hear people say the elite are the ones behind the anti white movement. Would someone provide the names of the elite. Name names please.

    • Replies: @Thomasina
    , @Robert Dolan
  181. Bookish1 says:
    @Peter Akuleyev

    However you view Hitlers actions and accomplishments there no denying that he brought great and much needed changes to Germany.. no man like him in history.. he had the stuff that prophets are made of.

  182. @HT

    How disgusting is that nearly every TV commercial now utilizes Negro rap and hip hop music? And sadly most whites don’t know or don’t care how their wonderful Western culture is being ripped away and replaced by the culture of savages.

    They don’t know because for half a century popular music has increasingly adopted black forms, from blues to rap. More recently, adding Latino to the mix. Fifty years is, culturally, a millennium. No wonder the immersion in thump-thump has now thoroughly moulded musical taste (if such a word can be used). Classical and melodic music is an unknown unknown to several generations. It doesn’t exist for them.

    Can the great music of the past be preserved during our cultural Dark Age? Possibly. There are modern performances and recordings of early music starting with Gregorian chant. Renaissance polyphony is still heard. But there’s less — in fact, hardly any — evidence that such creativity can be expressed by most contemporaries. They, too, are trend followers. The few profound modernists such as Edmund Rubbra and Einojuhani Rautavaara are unknown to the public and, I would suspect, many of today’s composers.

  183. Old Prude says:
    @Liza

    What would be the reward for creating great art in a degenerate society? Scorn of the degenerates, that’s what.

    There are plenty of genuine artists about, but they are gold flecks in a sewer. They shine on their own, knowing only determined prospectors who know their value gold will ever find them.

    Western populations are not worthy of great art. Give them Lady Gaga and rap.

    • Agree: Liza
  184. Thomasina says:
    @Bookish1

    Well, no one really knows who is at the very top and pulling the strings. Rothchilds. Probably the same people as were pulling the strings for the last 400 years – those who control the banking system – the same people who would have gone after Hitler and Gaddafi for wanting to change the money system.

    And it is a “system” and that system is protected by various politicians and rich corporate billionaires. Think Barack Obama, the Clinton and Bush families, Mitt Romney, Blackrock, the big tech companies, the six families that control 90% of the media, every U.S. senator, royalty, Big Tech, Big Pharma, Big Agriculture, the military/industrial complex. These types of people – the protectors of the system – who also profit very handsomely. Think of the IMF, BIS (Bank for International Settlements), the World Bank, World Trade Association, NED (National Endowment for Democracy).

    It’s a well-oiled machine, a milking machine milking ordinary citizens and sending the profits to the top. If you are not a “player”, you don’t get into the milking club.

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  185. @Bookish1

    Name names?

    Gee…..I could never do that……that would be anti-semitism!

  186. @Thomasina

    marxism is simply ethnic warfare….jews against gentiles.

    The small hats push communism not because of its’ pretend goal of economic leveling but because it destroys the gentile power structure.

    marxism is simply a means to socially engineer a jewish political takeover of the majority Christian population.

    marxism is therefore a power grab, a con, a scam, a swindle…..that always results in starvation and misery and gulags and mass murder.

    When the idiots on the left say that marxism “just hasn’t been done right,” what they really mean is that they haven’t managed to oppress and kill enough people for the jews to completely take over and rule the entire world…..but don’t worry…..they are working on it!

    • Agree: GeneralRipper
  187. Thomasina says:
    @raga10

    Believe me, if China did not play within the “system”, there would have been war already and she would have been bombed back to the Stone Age long ago. The difference now is that China is willing to play along. She wasn’t given “most favored nation” status for the fun of it, so that the West could “help” China. No, China’s elite made a decision to get filthy rich too.

    China is a player, and for every move that China makes, you can be assured that the Western elite are getting a huge piece of the action. China is NOT autonomous. It is a cog in the wheel of the “system”.

    • Thanks: GMC
    • Replies: @raga10
  188. Miro23 says:
    @brabantian

    Re the great Western classical musical arts tradition, a good question is why it petered out after 400 years of development … Most music played in classical concerts is no later than the earliest 20th century late Romantic period, from the last ‘great’ composers such as Sibelius or Richard Strass, the final popular ones often being Russians such as Rachmaninoff & Shostakovich. Opera too, faded around the same time, after Puccini in the early 20th century.

    Possible answer that in the early 20th century recorded music became available and music turned into a mass phenomenon (popular music).

    In itself, this is interesting, because music is only popular if it reflects the popular mood. And IMO it’s a useful early indicator of social change. For example check these top selling recordings by decade (December):

    1960 “Are You Lonesome Tonight?” Elvis Presley – Romantic Ballad

    1970 “My Sweet Lord” George Harrison – Hippie mysticism

    1980 “(Just Like) Starting Over” John Lennon – Hippie self indulgence

    1990 “Because I Love You” Stevie B – High emotion and big braces

    2000 “independent Woman” Destiny’s Child – Black Disco

    2010 “Firework” Katy Perry – You’re rubbish but pretend that you’re a star (firework)

    2020 “Willow” Taylor Swift – Multicultural love.

    Even more interesting, that the current 2021 Billboard 100 top seller is Morgan Wallen.

    You might not have heard of him, since he is banned from radio stations and by the MSM in general – which likely has something to do with his songs being about young white people having fun, respecting older (white) people and even aspiring to get married (in Church!!).

  189. @Schuetze

    https://thenumbernineblog.wordpress.com/

    The posts on the number nine blog are sometimes interesting as well.

  190. Franz says:
    @Annony Mouse

    Alan Yentob? I used to think of us as Wiemar-ica, but the rest of the formerly free nations I used to love are going the same way. I had a fine discussion with a Finnish gal not long ago. I thought, of all the places on Earth, I could find solace in hardy little Finland. Nope. They’re getting the “enrichment” treatment too. And no matter what us citizens say. anywhere, they will not stop.

  191. It’s not just a matter of culture. If you kill beauty, you will be killing truth and morality. The underlying agenda is nihilistic.

  192. @Thomasina

    Decent answer.

    But the politicians named are simply soulless frontmen/window dressing shabbos goy sellouts.

    Greenspan gave it away during an interview where he admitted that the FED is a separate entity and does not answer to our government. In other words, the FED (the central bank for most of the world since the dollar remains the world’s reserve currency) is owned and run by the nose.

    https://www.facts-are-facts.com/news/the-federal-reserve-is-privately-owned

    I think that currently Blackrock is a key figure. I believe the Treasury and the FED have merged, not that there was any daylight between them anyway, with a revolving door of merchants from the FED to Goldman to the Treasury and back again.

    Larry Fink has the control of trillions in investments and holds power over many corporations, so he has been able to push globohomo poz all over the world.

    You will notice that as the nose gains almost total power, things just keep getting shittier and shittier and more fucked up….and this correlates with the historical pattern of jewish evictions caused by the host population finally getting fed up with the nonsense.

  193. @anon

    I’m concerned for your health buddy!

    You seem to be very triggered.

    Maybe take a deep breath…..take a walk in the park…..seek a therapist…..

  194. raga10 says:
    @Thomasina

    China is NOT autonomous. It is a cog in the wheel of the “system”.

    Being part of the system is not mutually exclusive with power struggle within – just ask number of communists that Stalin executed… China might be playing within capitalist/imperialist system but that doesn’t preclude it aiming for dominance. You might also overestimate the ability of that “system” to keep China in line since just like with Soviet Union previously, you can’t actually ‘bomb China back to the stone age’ without pulling the rest of the planet along – not the ideal outcome for the ruling class.

  195. @CasperKoch

    NPR plays classical music bytes between each leftist talking point.

    • Replies: @Johan
  196. @aspnaz

    Your racist and cultural contempt is really visceral. Pig ignorance is bliss. And your Orientalist inability to appreciate others cultures is contemptible.

    • Troll: GeneralRipper
  197. @Thomasina

    I see that raga gave you a serve, but here is mine. Your Orientalist racism is pig ignorant and contemptible.

  198. @Thomasina

    Western ‘achievements’. Hundreds of millions murdered in Imperialist expansion. Two World Wars. Auschwitz and the Einsatzgruppen. The post-imperialist economic pillage mediated by the Washington Consensus of the IMF, World Bank, WTO etc. Massive ecological devastation. Sanctions and subversion against countries around the world. Muzak. Mass marketing and advertising psychological molestation. Capitalism, red in tooth and claw. Need I go on?

    • Troll: GeneralRipper
    • Replies: @Thomasina
    , @Bookish1
    , @Malla
  199. It’s not correct that Gramsci and Lukacs wanted to destroy the western and Christian hegemony. They wanted to destroy the bourgeoisi hegonomy and the bourgeoisi isn’t a synonyme for the west and christianity. They where not a part of the “modernist” movement in the culture, like the futurists, dadaists or any of the rest who wanted to destroy art and music to create something completelt new. Marx’ didn’t want to destroy the western culture. He wanted to build a new culture on the shoulders of the old, acording to Hegels dialectics, create a new syntesis. Stalin had a complete understandig of this and fought against the “modern” arts and defended more traditional artforms, realism in painting and literature, and the classical composers in music.

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  200. That’s what I’m talkin’ about.

    • Thanks: Mulegino1
    • Replies: @Mulegino1
  201. Johan says:

    Woke is actually the continuation of the craze of equality of democratic peoples. The democratic peoples first took over from the aristocracies, they already destroyed much high culture during the twentieth century, they banned it to the margins, placing popular and commercial culture over everything. Woke ideology merely continues with this equalization, the first generations of democratic peoples came to marginalize high culture a century ago, then the following generations came to ban cancel and overrule it even more, and so today there is the woke phenomenon, which is a matter of gradation. Nobody to blamed but democratic man, who by the way never reflects on himself, but always blames the other, in his continual war of the rule of the people.

    It appears that during a democracy there is nothing to do but to wait for the grand nursery to reach a phase of decline so that it will cancel itself, cancel culture…

  202. @Stefan Törmä

    Nah.

    marx actual goal was to end anti-semitism, despite pretending to have concern for the poor.

    So….the way to end anti-semitism is to disempower white Christian people and replace their leadership with small hats.

    marx absolutely wanted to destroy western culture. In any case, in every instance where communism has been tried it ALWAYS results in disaster and chaos and misery and mass murder.

    100 million innocent souls slaughtered.

    Countries wrecked: Russia, Germany, Poland, Hungary, China, Vietnam, Cambodia, Korea, Ethiopia, Cuba, Venezuela, etc. and now the United States.

    You cannot read Marx and Gramsci and Lukacs and Adorno and Horkheimer and Marcuse and Boas and Freud and Gould….and then claim that they have any consideration for Christendom…..their splenetic hatred for all things European and Christian is all too evident.

    Look at the fruits of the leftist movements, BLM and Antifa, and the current far left administration
    that is essentially a voice for the Sanhedrin…..open borders…..hate for whites…..attempts at gun confiscation…..hate crime legislation…..elevation of degenerates……this is the same shit that Russia and Germany had to deal with. It’s not like it’s something new. It’s the same old Bolshevik bullshit.
    There is nothing remotely positive or life affirming….it’s just one big scheme for nation wrecking.

    And the stupidass GOP points their fingers at the left and says, “Oh, you people are such hypocrites!” At the same time the left has soldiers in the streets stomping white people to death.

    • Replies: @GeneralRipper
    , @Fr. John
  203. UR2 says:
    @Schuetze

    Beethoven needs to be removed from that list. As his music, as well as his letters, not to mention the historical records, prove that he was a devout Roman Catholic and thereby uninterested in being a Mason (especially as Masonic membership was forbidden by the Church). LOL to even imagine Beethoven in the midst of such a ridiculous bunch. Its the usual case of the greatest and most famous being specifically chosen by- you know who- for religous degredation. Listen to his missa solemnis in D major-

    • Replies: @Schuetze
    , @Vojkan
  204. Thomasina says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    A lot of what you say is true and it is ugly. That is what we discuss and complain about here on a daily basis. I despise the sanctions and subversion, the IMF and central bank bullshit.

    But it is not your average Westerner who is behind any of this, just like it wasn’t them who had anything to do with the rigging of the last election or the Russiagate and Covid hoaxes, and on and on.

    A word of advice: you don’t kick a man when he’s down. You also don’t come on here and start bragging about how great China is when we all know that China would be nothing if it wasn’t for the Western elite selling its own citizens out. Joe Biden and the Clintons have even taken bribes from China.

    The Chinese elite are no different than the Western elite. They are tied at the hip.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  205. Johan says:

    “But, given the nature of such tergiversation and the implicit (and unwanted) recognition of the superiority of the Western canon”

    Correction: the Western cultural canon, product of pre-democratic secular modern man. Secular modern democratic man is an insignificant being, capable of nothing without forming large associations with his equals, not capable of providing and long term maintaining of nurturing environments, fertile soil, for the development of the arts and the flowering of genius.

    All what democratic secular man can do is to conserve the arts of previous non democratic culture. As he produces no fertile soil himself, he is ever more occupied with trying to dig up old forgotten material in dusty places, or to promote the works of so called oppressed historical female artists, as if new geniuses have been discovered..

    Finally rebel democratic white man gave rise to the ultimate culture cancellers, calling for the great reset and the cancelling of himself, as he cancelled and overruled every greatness by demanding that everything should be equal to himself, and recognizing only what is about equal to himself, and criticizing all what is above his head.

    • Replies: @Fox
  206. Johan says:
    @Carroll Price

    Not only NPR (whatever station that is), the whole classical music scene is taken over by the new progressives. This happens on most stations in many countries, it happens also in the Netherlands, Great Britain, Belgium. They also got rid of non compliant conductors and artists. During one of the woke actions, metoo, several not so compliant classical conductors were fired because of alleged abuse (which has never been proven), so the signal has been given, comply or you are out. So they might find work again in the margins, or they have to bow, plea guilt, talk the slick talk, and comply.
    They also attacked Valerie Gergiev, trying to prevent him from conducting several regular festivities in Holland and Great Britain. Anyone who does not talk the progressive parrot babble will be ousted and marginalized.

    I listen to one station which has no talk shows only music, that is about the only place where you don’t get brainwashed, if you silence it during the short news updates that is.

    • Thanks: Thomasina
  207. @Peter Akuleyev

    “(Hitler) did no such thing”. Whatever he did, we need it now.

  208. Mulegino1 says:
    @GeneralRipper

    Was it Rossini who observed, “Bach is Bach, as God is God”?

    The music of European Christendom possesses a beauty, sublimity, grandeur and mastery that is inimitable, ne plus ultra.

  209. Bookish1 says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Don’t forget jews in those world wars since jews had the biggest hand in starting them. As far as auszthwitz the proof has long been in that the story of gas and extermination is bullshit. (Go to Stormfront. Org to History and Revisionism to Top 10 reasons why the holocaust didn’t happen). As far as the other claims you make who hasn’t had those things in their history. Jewish hands are more guilty than anyone else.

  210. Mulegino1 says:

    Baroque, classical and romantic music in the western tradition is about worship, beauty, order and sublimity. In other words, a manifestation of the Logos informing the cosmic order.

    And much can be said for traditional music of the folk- a great expression of the joys and sorrows of the quotidian life of the people.

    The (((usual suspects))) and their favorite pet primitives despise both genres. To the former, the Talmudic “mitzvah” of destroying the best of the goyim would include the subversion of their higher culture by introducing the lowest common cultural denominator- the negroid cacophony. That is the kosher instigated product of the pavement, the ugliness, the hustle, the recidivism, the glorification of a dystopia which they themselves have had a hand in creating. Black noise is the very opposite of black empowerment- it is the reduction of all- or most- taste to the most God awful and primitive level.

    In other words, the antipode to this:

    • Thanks: GeneralRipper
    • Replies: @Arthur MacBride
  211. Schuetze says:
    @UR2

    LOL to even imagine Beethoven in the midst of such a ridiculous bunch.

    Mozart was definitely a freemason, and they even provide Haydn’s lodge, so I wouldn’t call them all “ridiculous”. Virtually all of the “founding fathers” of the US were freemasons, and it seems to me than many of them were dupes, unaware of what was going on in the higher levels. As I wrote, the lodges tried to attract the best and brightest. Ben Franklin appears to have been involved with Satanism though.

    Weishaupt’s take over of the freemason lodges on behalf of the Rothschilds and the Illuminati was likely not complete until the early 1800’s, so it is conceivable that Beethoven was a duped “good” freemason.

    In any case, this is where the masonic takeover of the entire music industry has gotten us today…

    Here is the rap star “Spotemgottem” “singing” with the another nigga who is named “Pooh Shiesty”

    • Replies: @Fr. John
    , @UR2
    , @Marckus
  212. Fox says:
    @Johan

    What you are saying is all too true; since the decisive cesura of 1945, the West, or democracy or whatever became established as the power wielder has not accomplished anything creative. Nothing! What was a success was merely the completion of trends, ideas or projects of the time before. What is style, what is music or sculpture or poetry or painting, it is not moving in any instance I know, and seems to get all its creative impulses from not wanting to be a continuation of what came before. Only a radical break with this death cult can lead to the dawn of a new age for us.

    • Agree: Arthur MacBride
  213. @Reverend Goody

    Not seen the interview, I understand this subject can be repulsive.
    However, healthy bowel movements and intesine health (rich, beneficial microbiome) may be more important than you want to accept they are.
    2021st century is waking up to the intestine to be the second brain if not the first to nourish before good things come forth. Yes the old composers were not exposed to Monsanto chemical goodness, soil depletion, cars, elevators, blue light, social media and factory prepared “food” that could be ripped out of plastic after sitting a year on shelve to satisfy the next urgent sugar need.
    Would be interesting to see how a Mozart would perform when exposed to such deplorable conditions.

  214. @Mulegino1

    Baroque, classical and romantic music in the western tradition is about worship, beauty, order and sublimity. In other words, a manifestation of the Logos informing the cosmic order.

    Exactly right. Thanks.
    For any who might be interested, here is a link ref Baroque —

    What is the essence of baroque music? Baroque music expresses order, the fundamental order of the universe.

    http://www.baroquemusic.org/

    J.S. Bach wrote SDG on every manuscript he wrote —

    Soli Deo gloria is the motto that grew out of the Protestant Reformation and was used on every composition by Johann Sebastian Bach. He affixed the initials SDG at the bottom of each manuscript to communicate the idea that it is God and God alone who is to receive the glory for the wonders of His work of creation and of redemption.

    https://www.ligonier.org/blog/soli-deo-gloria-god-alone-be-glory/

    Herz und Mund und Tat und Leben (Heart and Mouth and Deed and Life) BWV147

    • Replies: @Marckus
    , @Johan
  215. Vojkan says:
    @UR2

    Well, there are hints that he was until he changed his mind about free-masonry. Just as he changed his mind with regards to the dedication of his 3rd symphony to first consul Bonaparte after the first consul crowned himself emperor Napoleon.

  216. Fr. John says:
    @xyzxy

    ” Copeland and Gershwin were not ‘white’ within any classical tradition. The closest a Jew has come to creating interesting symphonic music was probably Mahler, who was distinctly derivative,”

    I was going to say much the same thing. Jews are ‘Other’ – Wagner made that perfectly clear.

    The picture that starts off the article, is prejudicial to begin with, as the cellist is obviously an AshekeNOSE Jew. Because the ‘artist’ is a Jew.

    The simple fact of over 1000 years of Christian Platonism influencing the growth and language of music, is now derided, but as recent books have made clear, literary notables such as Tolkien and Lewis have kept that flame alive, even to the present day.

    Organic, INCARNATIONAL Art [‘Die Heilige Kunst’] can ONLY be appreciated if you understand the corporate BODY it comes from- and that body ALONE, is the Body of Christ- i.e., Christendom.

    Once you realize that, Jews, bLACKs, and others are not a part of that body, and everything they do, is CULTURAL APPROPRIATION.

    • Replies: @Mr Hennessy
  217. Fr. John says:
    @Schuetze

    Your point about Freemasonry rings hollow, in that the Scottish Lodge came later.

    And Weishaupt couldn’t get his goals implemented until after these gents were dead.

    Yes, they may have been Masons, but the CULTURE of the day didn’t permit other than White, Christian gentlemen from being in the Lodges.

    So, your comment fails.

    • Replies: @Schuetze
  218. Fr. John says:
    @Robert Dolan

    “.the way to end anti-semitism is to disempower white Christian people”

    BS!

    Jews are NOT Semites, and the LIE that they are, is what is DESTROYING WESTERN CIV.

    Jews are a Turkic race, who converted to a PERVErTED form of Mosaic sophistry, and NOTHING MORE, around the 8th Century.

    Christians- White Christians, are God’s Adamic ‘sons of Shem’ and they alone are the “Israel of God.”
    Gal. 6:16

    Doubt me? Then read JEWISH Authors like Schlomo Sand, Benjamin Freedman, Arthur Koestler, and look up the DNA research of Dr. Elhaik. THEY ALL AGREE – JEWS ARE NOT SEMITES!

    • Replies: @Bookish1
  219. “20 centuries of civilization”

    Coming up a little short here, Boyd.

  220. Schuetze says:
    @Fr. John

    Weishaupt couldn’t get his goals implemented until after these gents were dead

    Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart 27 January 1756 – 5 December 1791
    Ludwig van Beethoven baptised 17 December 1770 – 26 March 1827
    Franz Joseph Haydn 31 March 1732 – 31 May 1809

    The illuminati, skull and bones & “the plan”

    Historical events connect the House of Rothschild with the Illuminati and the French Revolution. In 1784, lightning killed a messenger carrying documents from Illuminati founder Weishaupt to be delivered to Illuminists in France that outlined a plan to foment the French Revolution. The document, titled “Original Shift in the Days of Illuminations”, outlined the secret society’s long-range plan for “the New World Order through world revolution”. The courier that carried the document was struck dead as he traveled through Ratisbon on his way from Frankfurt to Paris. Police turned the documents over to the Bavarian Government, which then ordered the police to raid the newly organized lodges of the Grand Orient and the homes of the most influential Illuminati, where more such documents were recovered. The next year, the Bavarian government outlawed the Illuminati and closed the lodges of the Grand Orient. Next year (1786), the Bavarian government published copies of the recovered documents and sent them to all governments. This forced the Illuminati to go further underground. Weishaupt instructed his Illuminists to infiltrate the lodges of Blue Masonry and form a secret society within the already established secret societies.

    In his 1798 Proofs of a Conspiracy, John Robison, a Scottish professor of natural history exposed the Illuminati as follows:

    An association has been formed for the express purpose of rooting out all the religious establishments and overturning all the existing governments…. The leaders would rule the World with uncontrollable power, while all the rest would be employed as tools of the ambition of their unknown superiors.
    According to Carr, however this plot traces much further back even than the inception the Illuminati in 1776. Carr notes that in 1773, the Jew, Amschel Mayer Rothschild, founder of the fabulously wealthy House of Rothschild banking family, was 30 years old. That year in Frankfurt, Germany, Rothschild invited twelve other wealthy and influential men to a meeting where he outlined a plan for ultimate world domination

    The French Revolution refers to the period that began with the Estates General of 1789

    Everyone of those composers was alive and composing music when the French Revolution started. I have shown how the Rothschilds, Weishaupt and the Illuminati planned and started the Revolution. Of course numerous Freemason lodges were involved as well.

    So, your comment fails, miserably.

    • Replies: @Malla
  221. Bookish1 says:
    @Fr. John

    I don’t care who the jews claim to be or what others claim jews are. It is what they do that counts for who they really are. It is their intention that matters the most. And that is what people must act and react to.

  222. Malla says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    The post-imperialist economic pillage mediated by the Washington Consensus of the IMF, World Bank,

    Check your general knowledge.
    Bretton Woods, IMF, World Bank had the hands of Communist Soviet supporting Jews like Harry Dexter White. He was a Commie Lithuanian Jew and a Soviet Spy in the US Govt and was pivotal in pitting the Japanese Empire in a war with the USA (to save the USSR’s East). He was also pivotal in the Bretton Woods Conference and later IMF and World Bank. Yes a pro-Soviet spy,

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2013/03/14/how-a-soviet-spy-outmaneuvered-john-maynard-keynes-and-ensured-u-s-global-financial-dominance/
    How a Soviet spy outmaneuvered John Maynard Keynes to ensure U.S. financial dominance
    https://www.vox.com/2014/8/24/6057119/harry-dexter-white-ben-steil
    This Soviet spy created the US-led global economic system

    All this “Revolutionary Communist heroes” Vs evul Western Imperialists is nothing but bullshit. Both sides have been working behind the scenes from the very beginning.

    Hundreds of millions murdered in Imperialist expansion.

    Western Empires improved the lives of millions of non Whites, stopped despotic rule, introduced modern medicine which is leading to the great boom in non White numbers. Just tip of ice-berg.

    • Troll: Mulga Mumblebrain
    • Replies: @Malla
  223. Appaya says:

    Very Superstitious..

  224. UR2 says:
    @Schuetze

    Perhaps ‘ridiculous’ would be considered the correct idea to describe Masonic rituals as viewed by one who is deeply informed by Catholicism. One who would live in a state of adultry as Haydn did, obviously was not much affected by religion. As for Mozart, although his music was technically complex, it seems he didn’t reach a state of personal maturity. Musically, Beethoven moves my heart.. Mozart l find tiresome.

    • Replies: @AncientSoul
  225. Marckus says:
    @Schuetze

    What the fuck is that on the Nigga’s head ? Looks like a bird eating spider !

  226. Malla says:
    @Schuetze

    Everyone of those composers was alive and composing music when the French Revolution started.

    Oy vey. Maybe we should move to listening to Medieval Music which I hope is untainted.

  227. Marckus says:
    @Arthur MacBride

    I guess we can safely assume you dont like the video attached to comment #229 ?

    I just loved it. The balance, the harmony, the delicate melody, the subtle interplay between the backup instruments. The lyrics moved me to tears such that I could only listen to it for 2 seconds before I shut it down.

    Without doubt the greatest soul wrenching music since cavemen beat two sticks together and monkeys bashed coconuts against tree branches.

    No more Bach, Handel or Beethoven for me ! I’m born again !

    • LOL: Arthur MacBride
  228. Not to disparage the author, but to check for myself if classical music is verboten on commercial radio, I used duckduckgo.com, and searched. There may be fewer commercial stations that carry the genre, but there’s a host of online venues, and podcasts, to choose from.
    However, I can’t deny that there is a war against everything White, and that war dog is nipping at Beethoven’s ankle, and Wagner’s knees.

  229. @hillaire

    Your comment is very hateful and does not do Mahler justice.

    I mean, even the Nazis’ “Handbuch der Judenfrage” gives Mahler more credit than you do.
    Fritsch acknowledges Mahler as a tragic figure (as did Adorno btw) who could not fit into German symphonic tradition, and at least failed gloriously and interestingly.
    Fritsch even undoubtedly acknowledges Mahler’s achievements in promoting many important German composers and furthering the performance of for example Beethoven.

    I am sorry to say – obviously, honest intellectual debate has already been destroyed.

    • Replies: @hillaire
  230. @obwandiyag

    Thank you for your comment.

    Yes, it is very hard to maintain a benevolent stance towards humanity in this climate of hate.

    Though it’s not very humble of me saying that, but:
    True nobility shows compassion to the flaws of all people and always takes a stance that furthers positive development towards world peace in reconciliation of the differences and shortcomings.
    Without striving towards this nobility, you are just a s.nob. in the true sense of the word.

    That does not mean you can’t oppose the wilful mixing of humans for psychopathic purposes.
    It just means that we all have to always give our best to create a world that is worth living in – for all people and peoples. It starts with taking people as who they are.
    Justice warriors don’t do it, and neither do their opponents.

  231. @UR2

    Let me entertain you.

    Mozart certainly was a genius. The difference to Beethoven lies in his effortlessness, while Beethoven is hard work.
    They are also two different generations.
    Beethoven’s favorite composer was Clementi, not Mozart.
    You can hear it in this sonata:

    • Replies: @UR2
    , @baythoven
  232. Schuetze says:

    Lil Nas X Says Children Are His Core Audience Before Releasing Music Video Giving Satan a Lap Dance, Selling Shoes Made With Human Blood

    “The deranged rapper also announced a sneaker collaboration called “Satan” that features a pentagram and real human blood. The shoe also contains the numbers 666 and come in a limited edition of 666 pairs.”

    Thank the Freemasons. Thank Haydn, Mozart and Beethoven, the composers who started the occult take over of music.

  233. @Bardon Kaldian

    I am neither a classist nor a racist.
    While I am willing to give some credit to genetics and to culture – I am always ending up judging the individual on their actions only, even if some expectations from experience are keeping me real about certain things.

    My comment was not ending on the class argument – it is a psychological argument.
    This is why I also do not prefer any form of government.
    They are all equally bad or good. I would like to refer to Kant’s Eternal Peace: what matters is a constitution.
    I am therefore probably a Libertarian Republican in the actual sense of the word. (I am from Germany though, so no US Party affiliation).
    From a psychological standpoint, any rule is dependent on the psychology of the rulers.
    With one-person goverment, you get either Hieron II. – a wise tyrant that maintained stability and prosperity – or some kind of psychopath who ruins everything (to stay with the example: what happened after Hieron II. died…)
    Democracy is widely misunderstood. German free cities of the past were democracies withjn a democratic monarchy (the Electors elected the Emperor), the Venetian Republic was democratic, but I think everything boils down to the freedom question – are you allowed to prosper by your own effort?

    The US question is a good one.
    I think Trump is right: not regarding race and gender, but only the constitution. They who honor the freedom are free to also express their culture, as long as they acknowledge the freedom of the others.
    This is what angers the psychopathic part of the population. They want submission, not freedom.
    All other arguments are just ploys. If you take those arguments seriously, you are in trouble.
    Only by exposing hypocrisy, one can destroy them, but taking the opposite side is wrong and part of the ploy.

    This also applies to the Jewish question. Jews who realize that they had been duped by psychopaths for centuries make most problems dissolve very quickly, though they are left with a void that probably never vanishes, which is very sad and deserves our compassion.

    tl;dr: The class argument I am making is: the “1%” is the psychopaths. Just don’t do what they say. You can’t win otherwise.

  234. @PlumAvocado

    Many of us who “can’t tolerate the garbage coming out of Western culture” have opted for Islam. The Qur’an (“recital”) is a sacred poetic masterpiece with musical qualities. It singlehandedly turned an almost entirely non-literate language with only a rudimentary alphabet into the world’s leading language of learning in less than a century.

    Reciting Qur’an at whatever level of proficiency is a powerful spiritual exercise. I follow Sheikh Imran Hosein’s system of reciting the whole book each month.

    Islamic rituals, especially prayer and fasting, help cleanse the garbage of a decadent culture and offer spiritual protection.

    By the way, I like Western classical music and great literature too. “Woke” versions not so much.

    • Replies: @Johan
  235. @Fr. John

    Bro, if the above is not parody, I don’t see how you could have missed the boat on Christianity any more utterly.

    Which part of the Body of Christ was your inspiration for such zingers as “AshekeNOSE Jew” and “bLACKs”? Was it the Beatitudes? One of the Psalms, perhaps?

  236. Bolteric says:
    @Miha

    It gives me great pleasure to see the tradition preserved and appreciated. There will a kernel in the US and Europe and it will continue to be watered down by forced equity nonsense. So kudos to the Chinese for getting it.

    I am no maestro myself, but I did take several music classes in college including one devoted to Beethoven. The professor had such a good ear he could identify every recording by the conductor, symphony, date, and so on. Mom passed on appreciation of opera, but married into the wrong family to build on the appreciation and listening tradition.

    Glad the author wrote the piece. It ain’t over until the fat lady sings

  237. UR2 says:
    @AncientSoul

    Please send me the name of the Clementi sonata. Your link said unavailable. I would like very much to hear it-

    • Replies: @AncientSoul
  238. Johan says:
    @Arthur MacBride

    “God alone who is to receive the glory ”

    Well, since you do not add these initials to every note you make and every fart you produce, so to speak, Bach then certainly was audacious enough to imagine that his creations also were worthy enough to dedicate them to the Deity.

    Such theological logical difficulties do not matter at all though, rather the situation which it expresses is that man, before modern secular, liberal, democratic man took over, had an idea of a goal higher and greater than himself individually, and a goal greater and higher than contemporary society, all the individuals together.
    For twentieth century modern man, the State, representing secular, liberal, ever more equalized democratic man has become the highest authority. And so all Western people fall victim to slavery to the secular State and the modern secular highest institutions, which have grown like a cancer throughout the period of the rule of modern secular democratic man. Where woke is just the latest production of secular democratic man, product of one of his most characteristic tendency, which is to equalize everything.

    • Replies: @Arthur MacBride
  239. @Schuetze

    I would prefer to say that Hitler respected the popular music of his Volk rather than that he “loved” it.
    It cannot be said, even, that he loved the great classical corpus. His tastes were narrow but deep: Wagner, of course, to the love of which he attached a profound knowledge and understanding, and then Bruckner and, for amused (but admiring) relaxation, Lehar. No doubt there were others.
    He is on record somewhere (the Table Talk?) announcing his deep boredom whenever confronted by a work of Johannes Brahms.

    You are amusing about Prussian Junkerdom: Neither Canaris nor Goering were aristocrats, although the latter was certainly upper class and did descend from one famous noble family, the delightfully named Greiffenclau zu Vollraths. Canaries did indeed betray his Führer but Goering was not only loyal to the last but held the banner aloft at Nuremberg like no other.

    The great majority of the actively anti-Nazi aristocrats were so out of no mere snobbery, but from deep religious conviction. Some indeed were Prussians, but others (like the too famous Stauffenbergs) were from Catholic countries like Bavaria.

    As fascinating as he was I find it odd to call his brief twelve years of Herrschaft a “Renaissance”, ending as it did in the utter ruin of Germany, a ruin which, although it was certainly overcome economically, does not show many signs yet, alas, of being so either culturally or, even less, spiritually.

    • Thanks: Schuetze
  240. Johan says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    The whole stage setup and setting of this video is though ripe of ghastly ‘unpoetic’ modern Western aesthetics. The furniture, the typology, the background, the stage.. and yeah, displayed on Western virtual secular democratic man’s technological rather soulles mob media.

  241. @Johan

    Well, since you do not add these initials to every note you make and every fart you produce, so to speak, Bach then certainly was audacious enough to imagine that his creations also were worthy enough to dedicate them to the Deity.

    I am so grateful that such an erudite and worthy gentleman as yourself, Johan, has found it possible to recognise that “such theological logical difficulties do not matter at all ” …

    Equally I am certain that JSB will be humbly grateful for your condescension.

    Especially as it is so charmingly phrased.

  242. Johan says:
    @Sollipsist

    “It takes a certain amount of genius simply to recognize genius, and it takes some discipline to cultivate that recognition into the ability to really appreciate and evaluate it. ”

    Historical establishments have not been so keen to recognize genius, but to some extent there were people who recognized it, or at least had an impression which made them an aid to the genius, so that latter was able to establish himself and be recognized.
    Like Oscar Wild noticed, ‘the people’ in this respect can only throw mud. In democracies of our modern secular Western types, no genius can find fertile soil, he will be covered with mud and overgrown and pushed away by weeds and false prophets.

    “There is this to be said in favour of the despot, that he, being an individual, may have culture, while the mob, being a monster, has none. One who is an Emperor and King may stoop down to pick up a brush for a painter, but when the democracy stoops down it is merely to throw mud.”

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  243. Johan says:
    @xyzxy

    Bombastic musical blather is characteristic of a fair deal of 19th century symphonic music, ever growing orchestras, ever more expressive instruments. It is also part of the romantic period, which was symbolic of decline. The twentieth century film music and solipsistic romanticism has continued this tradition in many respects, of course in rather cheap ways.

  244. baythoven says:
    @AncientSoul

    Beethoven’s favorite composer was Clementi, not Mozart.

    Wrong. Beethoven’s favorite composer was Handel. Among his contemporaries, he most admired Cherubini. (Mozart and Haydn deceased.)

    • Agree: Arthur MacBride
  245. Johan says:

    I listened to a part of the symphony No. 1 in E minor by Florence Price.
    What is interesting is the tendentious reaction of the commenters, they react if they have just been introduced to a heavenly music which they have always been illegitimately deprived of… ‘a great injustice has been done….’. This hyping and the accompanying sentimentalism is actually typical in about all music scenes… which speaks volumes in itself…

    Regardless of what I think of the music of Price, if one of my favorite composers would for some reason only have been discovered recently, upon enjoying it I would not say that I have always been deprived of it, finally hearing ‘what heaven may sound like’, as there is about over four centuries of music at our disposal, loads and loads of music, for everyone, too much actually.. Never have people had access to so much different styles of music, going back centuries. I would just be glad to have found something to add to my collection.

    So this hyping is merely characteristic democratic hyping, where every individual wants to impose his standards, declaring this or that to be the work of genius and of great value.., and, typical democratic hobbyhorse, to declare himself to have been a victim of the powers that be…

  246. Johan says:
    @gar manar nar

    It has happened several times when I have the radio on, as background music not listening consciously, I suddenly became aware of some sort of convoluted, cyclic repetitive sounds which made me feel a little bit uneasy, slightly physically unwell, after which on inspection it always turned out to be the music of Philip Glass. Can’t say that this reaction is the product of any conscious willfully maintained bias..

  247. @baythoven

    He also greatly admired Bach, ‘..the immortal God of Harmony’, as he called him.

  248. @Johan

    ‘Democracy’ in capitalist economies certainly does tend towards the lowest common denominator. Advertising, that phenomenal Evil, greatly aggravates the tendency.

    • Replies: @Johan
  249. @Thomasina

    The average Westerner is brain-dead and brainwashed from birth. I don’t blame them for anything but their compliant stupour as they are first robbed and humiliated by predatory parasites, then driven to a race and civilizational war that they, and all of us, will lose.

  250. Malla says:
    @Malla

    Yo Mulgi, all you can do is press the troll button. But you still cannot deny that fact that the US based IMF system of exploitation was created by a Soviet Jewish spy. LOL.
    Communist Revolutionary Govts and Western Imperialist Govts were in Satanic bed for a long time, doing hanky panky and lovey dovey, coming together to destroy any real Heavenly challenger to their Satanic NWO like the Third Reich.

  251. ivan says:
    @Tom

    The British tradition in rock music blows away anything that the entire US including the blacks have ever produced.
    Pink Floyd. Roxy Music. Deep Purple. Style Council. Led Zeppelin. Stragglers . Supertramp… The list is endless.

    • Disagree: Commentator Mike
  252. ivan says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Main Currents of Marxism is a great work.

  253. ivan says:
    @AncientSoul

    Excellent. Almost all peoples are not racists once they get to know each other. But a large number of jobs now depend on precisely the expansion of racial greviance mongering.

    • Replies: @AncientSoul
  254. gnbRC says:

    I think this essay completely misses the mark, albeit a very good thought piece.

    Humanity and earth are quite old – a lot older than what education and mass media would like us to believe, and so contemporary ‘artistic heritage’ is quite a minor issue, in itself. If in doubt, consider contemplating books by Paul Laviolette, “Earth Under Fire” and “Genesis of the Cosmos”, which reflect a human existence as cyclical based on periodic catastrophes spanning aeons.

    Rather, what is probably more important – and compelling – is the idea that all aspects of our immediate physical, energetic, and conscious characteristics are reflected/refracted in the world around us, and vice versa. What we see and do, is reflected in nature – and nature reflects back at us our conscious characteristics. Why important? Because educating/indoctrinating and propagandizing to create diversity, wokefulness, racial division, gender division, traumatization, false and/or misleading information, etc. is not only reflected as ‘dis-ease’ states within human beings, but also in our surrounding environment – automatically. This includes natural surroundings (earthquakes, volcanos, droughts, pestilence, etc.), flora/fauna, state of music, state of infrastructure, state of food, and everything we might consider ‘an art’. It’s palpable everywhere – you can feel it!

    So why then are our ‘masters’ doing this? They say it’s to control the general population (er, to their benefit), but really I think they are just naïve and ignorant and have never being deep thinkers or possessors of any real wisdom. One can accomplish the same thing without being so destructive.

  255. @A Dolphin Haydn

    No. It isn’t.
    I have little knowledge of modern music. I was surprised to hear someone was openly writing and singing to Lucifer. Not something I expected. Thought it died with Ozzy in the 80’s.

    Was shocked to see a teenager babble like a retard in public about a bodily function.
    Haven’t been back since.
    Like other demonic events of the last decade, the Black Pope, statues of Molech and Half-Time shows that are demonic initiations, it is part of an overall pattern. In order to understand what they are doing, we need to watch them, pay attention and draw conclusions.

    Trying to play ‘gotcha’ is pointless and stupid.

  256. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Take your pathetic and juvenile hatred of the West and stuff it up your phag @ss
    If you had a brain you might be dangerous. I’ve met millions of brain-dead, brain-washed lefties like you. You guys never say anything original or intelligent.
    ‘Racism’ ,,,,,,,,,mumble, mumble,,,,,,,sexism,,,,,,,imperialism,,,,,,,,,,mumble, mumble,,,,,,,,,pass me my hypodermic……….where is the narcon?

    • LOL: Marckus
    • Replies: @ivan
    , @Marckus
  257. ivan says:
    @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    Forgive him. He is a born aschhole.

  258. Marckus says:
    @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    I have had the same concerns about Mumbo Jumbo especially his mental state and constant avalanche of gibberish. When the stork delivered this chump the bird must have dropped him on his head.

    What is amusing is that Mumbo waxes about China yet lives in some remote village in the Nam that is not even marked on any map. Can you imagine living in a country where the currency is called the Dong.

    “How much for the Sweet and Sour Grasshoppers with bamboo Shoots”?

    “Twelve DONG ”

    The guy does not have even use a Chinese handle. He could have called himself Lil Dong Hung but rejects his culture and wants to hang with the Whites ie the winners.

    People tell me I should feel sympathy and empathy for people who are retarded, I meant mentally challenged. I guess they never met someone like Jumblebrain !

    The poor idiot is no contributor to intelligent discourse on UR. Rather he is a clown and for me is a source of entertainment.

  259. @UR2

    That’s odd. Anyway, go for the Andreas Staier recording of Clementi Sonatas – great stuff.
    It must appear on youtube unless it’s blocked in your country.

  260. @baythoven

    Beethoven’s musical library contained more albums by Clementi than any other composer.
    It is very well established that Beethoven’s piano/sonata style was heavily influenced by Clementi.
    Also by other not well known composers like Sterkel.

    btw you might want to enjoy this awesome symphony by Sterkel:

    • Replies: @baythoven
  261. @ivan

    I didn’t say all people are compatible in a society.
    I am an avid fan of peoples having their own playground of stable culture.
    Maybe you don’t see racism as supremacism, that’s fine with me.
    I am also a fan of just nonjudgementally seeing people as they are.
    I am repeating myself:
    The problem is psychopaths with a deep urge to rule over people. Within each culture, and in a global sense nowadays when those 1% have banded together to rule over the rest of the world.

    • Thanks: ivan
  262. baythoven says:
    @AncientSoul

    Oh baloney. Clementi’s piano sonatas are very much standard issue cookie-cutter in terms of form. There is no possible way they influenced Beethoven more than the piano sonatas of Haydn and Mozart.

    But then, Beethoven is the greatest musical architect of all time. Ultimately, his piano sonatas are more a product of his own genius than of any precedents.

    • Replies: @AncientSoul
  263. Johan says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Indeed, the commercial class, or the ‘the merchant class’ are totally out of bounds and obsessed, if they could, they would shout in your ear everywhere you are every minute, not only with their advertisements, but also their questionaries and polls.
    People who are not into it have to barricade all doors through which the commercial class is brutal and vulgar enough to enter.

    • Replies: @gnbRC
  264. gnbRC says:
    @Johan

    … if they could, they would shout in your ear everywhere you are every minute, not only with their advertisements, but also their questionaries and polls.
    People who are not into it have to barricade all doors …

    Umm, excuse me, but you do have the internal power to prevent your mind from becoming overwhelmed by the constant assault of advertisers, surveys, etc. All you have to have is someone to point something out that’s very basic about the mind, then you can’t help but see it whenever you watch your mind’s reaction to these ‘nuisances’ …

    The mind functions by constantly creating thoughts to keep it actively scanning. For example, if you meditate and try to clear your mind, you find that you can’t do it – thoughts just continue to invade, no matter how your try. The mind creates these thoughts because it works on movement – it creates the thoughts in an attempt to get you to move if you try to be still. It will continue creating thoughts until some thought appears in your mind that’s compelling, or irritating, or makes you mad, or whatever. Then, your mind then latches on to that thought – it wins, you’re hooked, you react with an emotion, then the emotion robs you of energy.

    One obvious way to reduce the effect is to cut mass communication out of your life. Many people have done this successfully.

    A more sophisticated way to stop the emotional involvement is to recognize it’s happening (e.g. I had this thought, and now I’m angry!), then focus the mind on the joints of your body – feel them open and relax, feel the energy flow through them. When you do this your mind becomes engaged with something more directly related to you and your well being (because negative [emotional] energy collects in the joints, eventually causing physical disease), and you will completely lose track of the abstract thought that made you angry. Try it. (Of course, the theory behind this is more complicated, but due to space constraints …)

    Once you become aware of what’s happening within your mind, you can’t help but not see it happening to others in the world around you – with them being totally unaware of it. It’s really interesting.

  265. Armoric says:

    Boyd D. Cathey: “we also should understand that this vandalism encompasses far more: the abolition of the historic inheritance and rejection of twenty centuries of civilization.”

    We should understand that our rulers want us dead. They are after the White race, not just after Western civilization. The author sounds naive.

    The Jewish media have encouraged people, even nationalists, to despise classical music and enjoy aggressive rebellious pop music. Fans of classical music gave us the opposite problem: they used to despise everything not classical.

    I’d like to be able to turn on the radio and listen to classical music occasionally, but the presenters talk too much and are arrogant snobs. And they are just as Jewish as other radio hosts. So, I’ve stopped listening. Obviously, classical music is not the only victim of the anti-White media. Many other kinds of music also have lost their audience.

    Classical music is like any other kind of music, with both good and bad stuff. Bach can be described as a genius, but I hate to hear the discussions about who is a genius and who is only second-rate. Even when the music is not that good, it’s useful in getting people together and reinforcing their particular identities and their social ties. That’s why we need to have our own media. I don’t want just good music, I want good music made by White people like me. It’s impressive and moving to watch an orchestra play classical music on TV, but the Chinese violinists make me want to change the channel.

    “Antonio Gramsci and Georg Lukacs” / “it was through a “long march” through the culture—in education, entertainment and the arts, religion—that the West would be defeated”

    What really happened is that Jewish activists bought the media and the politicians. They also networked their way into the universities. Then they were able to edge classical music out of the media, while censoring popular opinion and manipulating the leftists. They didn’t win the cultural war before gaining access to the media. I think it happened mainly the other way around: first they bought the politicians and the media, then they pushed their ideas on the public and they subsidized the leftists.

    Georg Lukacs probably had secret grievances against the goyim and would be proud to see the state of the Western world in 2021. But my guess is that Antonio Gramsci’s grievances were only against the ruling class, and he would be dismayed by the current situation.

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
  266. @The Alarmist

    But try filming an Asian mythology story with White actors, all hell will break loose.

  267. @gnbRC

    Thank you for your astute observation on the mind.
    It is truly the only frontier.

  268. @baythoven

    Don’t display your ignorance here.

    You think Clementi’s educational Sonatines are his trademark? You might want to listen to the real stuff.
    Again – Beethoven was an eager collector of Clementi’s works, for a reason.

    Clementi wrote very avant-garde sonatas before Beethoven, obviously, because he was of a prior generation.

    Of course Beethoven is exceptional. But that was decades later.
    Giving no credit to his influences is pretty dumb.

  269. Johan says:
    @gnbRC

    I entertain roughly comparable ideas about it, not only in relation to keep the commercial class out of my world, both physically, emotionally and mentally, but also the ‘parallel’ world of democratic secular modern man at large, including its media and about all of its culture, as far as that is possible.

  270. @gnbRC

    You seem to see all thought as a problem.

  271. @Armoric

    “What really happened is that Jewish activists bought the media and the politicians.”

    Why would Jews need to “buy the media” that Jews had founded?

    Part of the idiocy of anti-Semites is their creation of a history just as fake as what the antiversity and the Lügenpresse deal in.

  272. Schuetze says:
    @Schuetze

    “Isn’t funny how they were using new “Musical Waves” to promote music in the 1970’s the same way they use “Waves” to push their plandemic? Instead of New Wave Music we have Third Wave Variants.”

    These mind games they are playing on us are so predictable that it has become tedious…

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/new-covid-19-waves-sweep-through-asia

    “New waves of coronavirus infections have been sweeping through several countries in Asia, threatening to become more ferocious than previous outbreaks.”

  273. DC Nate says:
    @CasperKoch

    Copland’s “populist” period of music is the most patronizing stuff I’ve ever heard. Gay Manhattan Jew, with strong Modernist (atonal) preferences and left-wing politics, deigns to regard the amusing cowboys and hillbillies of flyover country. See, goyish simpletons, I can dumb myself down and do your thing, too!

    Gershwin, to his credit, was just doing what he loved (black jazz and spirituals, Jewish-American showtunes). He had the pianistic talent to take it up a notch. When he asked Ravel to give him composing lessons, Ravel said, “Why become a second-rate Ravel when you’re a first-rate Gershwin?”

    • Agree: Old Palo Altan
  274. Reaper says:

    I would ask the author:
    – Do you have a “doomsday shelter” for classical music?
    Just like for seeds to secure it for the future – meaning: store it in a secure way (either on hard drives, classic discs, etc…).
    Yet I do not think classical music in great danger, but if someone believes so, than better to take effort to secure it.

    I care for rare books, so have over 12,000 + in digital form + some virtual library downloaded in secure – often offline – data storage, which among others includes banned eugenics literature, pre 1945 psychiatry, meritism, and many other banned/ censored/ supressed ones.

    As for classical music:
    It is sure not promoted, but if someone wants it, can get it.
    There is no need for mandatory tv programs or an hour in a mixed radio. If classical music is not part of the expected erudite from the average person that also not a problem. It will make more extraordinary when someone meets a new acquaintance in the opera.

    As for performers: I don`t care untill they produce good quality, and as many pointed out: in East Asia it is actually more popular in recent times than in Europe or USA.

    If that is some woke concert: just do not attend.
    How do you know it is woke?
    Nobody wants to cancel it, and have wide range ad apperance, even possibly in the enemy media.

    Any kind of official critic/ review from institutions/ publishers are the same jewish commanded campaign, even if done by their foot soldiers, the very same as about books, film, games, etc…

    Sometimes a good help: just use it reverse: if they talk low/ disapprove about something that is worth a look, if silent/ try to supress than even more chance that is something good.

    What is praised, or top rated, or just at first page on google search/ have apperance in social media advertisemts/ in mainstream media that is the campaign of the enemy.

  275. DC Nate says:
    @ricpic

    While Brahms is my personal favorite, I favor Rameau over Bach, Berlioz over all his contemporaries, and Saint-Saens over all his contemporaries (except Brahms). I like all the big Germans quite a lot, too, but you’re right. Music should be pleasurable and uplifting without being simple and cheap. The great French composers all seemed to get it. The Germans tend to be a bit heavy and introspective for my tastes. But that’s the beauty of European diversity. Italian composers tend to be histrionic, if in-your-face drama is your thing. Etc.

  276. hillaire says:
    @AncientSoul

    for an ‘ancient soul’ you have the intellect of an infant…

    I have even less interest in the the ‘suffering’ of another ‘jew’ than the amateurish fiddling’s and wood chipping of failed musician and wagner fan boy gustav mahler a mediocrity of epic proportion whose scores should have been used by Wagner as lavatory paper (hint: they probably were)…

    now re-read my comment and educate yourself…

  277. Johan says:

    Guys, quit your roaring about Jews, Western classical music culture goes down just as the rest of Western culture in the decline which is democracy in the context of the rise of secular mass man. Jews (some) and ‘Marxists’ as well as gentiles only play the role of pushing things to a next level of absurdity. Gentile ‘demos-trash touches’ have been all over the place the last 150 years, the ‘demos’ violent overruling, hyping, pushing and declaring their own geniuses is nothing new. The demos is always ‘woke’ in a democracy.

    Save your recordings while you still can, save your literature, save your quality cultural material, enjoy it at home while the demos were, are and continue to be raging and destroying under the tyrannical guidance of demagogues and a plutocracy which is the product of modern democratic secular society itself.

  278. profnasty says:
    @Schuetze

    Ok. Not sure, might have been Beria. The guy who dug the slave canals.
    So he was up to be shot, cried and complained so much, he got the sock treatment.
    Citation? I usually don’t do that in comments. It’s just what I read somewhere. Because honestly, next,somebody would argue about the source. I lost my Wi-Fi because doctors, lawyers and indian chiefs (and a BITCH), stole my life savings. But, aren’t comments mostly for enjoyment? How many of these mugs actually get off their ass and participate in revolution? My guess–none.
    Sheeesh.

  279. @Polistra

    What in the actual fuck!? Never mind “Whitewashing”, we’re seeing bloody “Blackwashing”!

  280. @The Alarmist

    Aye, not quite an accurate depiction there…

  281. Given Beethoven’s status as the archetypal musical genius, it is unsurprising that aggrieved Blacks have, since the early twentieth century, attempted to propagate the myth that Beethoven had some African ancestry.

    I have never heard a preposterous pack of lies in my entire life. Trying to claim one of the great composers of the Germanic Race? Go figure, I guess.

    Absolute bollocks.

  282. anon[939] • Disclaimer says:

    If . . .*IF*. . . Beethoven actually had even a *slight* taint of African ancestry, it’s fortunate that he had more than sufficient European ancestry to far out-distance it.

  283. @anon

    I know we’re speaking in ifs and buts, but he certainly did not. Beethoven was 100% a pure-blooded member of the Germanic Race.

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