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I have resisted the urge to write much about the actual war in Ukraine up to this point for several reasons.

First, I am not a military expert, although I have spoken to several retired military men to get their take on the situation since the start of the conflict. This is made easier by the fact that I come from a military family.

Secondly, I saw Russian military dominance and victory a foregone conclusion and still do. This was always a war for the Russian politicians to lose, not for the Ukrainian military to win.

Thirdly, I do not believe that anyone has any real inside information on Russian troop movements and strategic goals. The Ministry of Defense has kept a very tight lid on that sort of thing. Therefore, all we really have to work with is speculation based on Telegram and Twitter videos and reports from embedded journalists. Or, we rely on the reports of Western intelligence agencies, which do not have a good track record.

We should instead consider Putin’s goals going into this war. The most obvious factor to consider is the fact that Putin has no political future should he fail to achieve his objectives in Ukraine. One way or the other, he needs a victory of some sort or another to hang his hat on. This is perhaps the best metric that we have for figuring out what Putin’s intentions are in Ukraine and since this series of essays is focused on internal changes occurring in Russia as a result of the showdown with the West, we should consider what exactly Russian civil society is demanding from Putin.

First and foremost, the so-called “Atlanticist” faction, which seems to a euphemism for Jews and their puppets as far as I can tell, did NOT want Putin to intervene in Ukraine. He did so anyway. And he did the same in Crimea, Syria and Georgia. Now, many of the most prominent Atlanticists have fled the country. In other words, there is no proof whatsoever that Putin is willing to bend to their demands when it comes to Russia’s security and so, we can safely disregard the opinions and demands of these people and their supporters in Moscow and St. Petersburg because it is quite clear that Putin has already done so.

The largest block in society is what we can broadly call the “Patriots.” They come in all ideological shades and stripes — some are red flag-waving Communist nostalgists, others prefer the black, yellow and white aesthetics of the Russian Empire. Most simply fly the red, white and blue of Russia and have no ideology to speak of other than what we can understand as generic patriotism. They all support the military operation in Ukraine, but they have various goals that they want the intervention to achieve. These people make up 80+% of Russian society and we know this because Putin’s approval rating has soared into the 80s because of the military intervention. The hardliners want an incorporation of the entire territory of Ukraine into the Russian Federation, but are willing to settle for everything east of the Dniepr. The majority of patriotic Russians just want a victory in Ukraine, and have no idea of what exactly that will entail. Liberating the Donetsk People’s Republic (DNR) and the Luhansk People’s Republic (LNR) and reincorporating them into Russia while giving the Ukrainian army, the “Nats-bats” (mercenary “nationalist” militias), and Zelensky a good thrashing is good enough for them. Russia’s official stated goals in this conflict are just that, simply phrased another way: the “de-nazification” and “de-militarization” of Ukraine and the liberation of Donetsk and Lugansk. To achieve this limited victory, all Putin has left to do is to dislodge the Ukrainian army in the East, where they were massing up to attack the DNR and where they are hunkered down in their fortified positions now.

But let’s examine the military operation in greater detail for a moment. If we’re going to speculate on Russia’s military plans and objectives, we have to focus on the facts and not on the narratives that we can spin based off these facts. For example, we know for a fact that the Russian army reached Kiev within the first three days of the conflict. Now, was this a feint or part of a psychological operation to get Kiev to surrender, or an attempt to prevent a planned Ukrainian offensive on Donbass by splitting the Ukrainian army or the first stage in a preparation to storm the capital and cut the head off the snake? Here, we can only speculate.

We can also add to our speculations that there may have been an attempt to activate Russian assets within the city and take it from within. Russian bloggers are speculating that this was the Russian plan for Kharkiv, which failed to materialize for one reason or another. In fact, there are rumors that Kharkiv’s officials feigned surrender only to lure Russian troops in and then open fire on them, leading to a similar repeat of the Grozny ambush during the Chechen wars. I hesitate to hang my hat on this claim, but it strikes me as having a ring of truth to it. After all, what was the Russian plan for taking the cities if they refuse to bomb and then storm them into submission? Clearly, negotiating with the officials and activating sleeper agents within the cities would be a far more cost-effective method of taking these cities. If that is the case, Russian spooks and diplomats failed spectacularly in Kharkiv, Kiev, and Mariuple.

More facts: the Russian military plowed through the Ukrainian in-field defenses and parked themselves outside these cities or simply went around them. No immediate storming occurred. While they surrounded these cities and continued their targeted destruction of the Ukrainian military, a bloodbath began in these cities targeted at Russia-sympathizers and officials who spoke up about entering negotiations or surrendering ending up being assassinated by the SBU and the “Nats-bats.”

So: were the Russians planning on taking all of these cities but failed because their sleeper cells were poorly prepared/neutralized? Or was the Ministry of Defense and Putin telling the truth when they said that they weren’t interested in taking territory or these cities but simply in knocking out Ukraine’s military potential and liberating the DNR and LNR?

Choose your own narrative as you see fit or wait until the dust settles. Either way, we simply don’t know the answer yet.

Back on the home front, Putin hasn’t even called up Russia’s reserves. Young men are NOT being drafted to go fight in the Ukraine. Again, this is another fact. What does it tell us? That the war is not popular? Hardly. Not only do we have the polls to prove that the war is, in fact, popular, but we have Western media lamenting the fact that this is the case. Why then not call up the reserves? Perhaps because they were deemed unnecessary for the goals of the operation. This indicates that the goals of the operation were limited, does it not?

And now a few words on the Russian Ministry of Defense.

We can start with Anatoly Serdukov, the former minister of defense. Serdukov was one probably one of the least qualified ministers of defense in Russian history. He was widely reviled and hated by the officer corps in the military and his replacement with Sergei Shoigu was seen as a much-awaited step in the right direction. In the 90s, Serdukov was a furniture salesmen (fine, a general director) in St. Petersburg and it was widely believed in military circles that he was as corrupt as they came. For example, his significant other got caught with millions of dollars in her bank account. There was also regular run-of-the-mill corruption associated with his five-year reign which ended in 2012, such as the use of military resources to build roads to oligarchs’ villas and the like. I suppose one could make the argument that there was no proof of direct embezzlement, but he ended up getting sacked for involvement in corruption all the same. The silver lining was that no one in the West could take Russia seriously with him at the helm, and so NATO relaxed. It was around this time that President Obama declared Russia a regional power and declared that a pivot to China was the path forward for ensuring US hegemony in the world. Russian patriots believe that Serdukov was partially to blame for this insulting demotion from superpower status. Most notably, the army during this period was drastically cut as part of a money-saving campaign that was branded as an anti-corruption effort.

With Sergei Shoigu taking over in 2012, Russia slowly began reinvesting in the military. Shoigu, like many other Russian public figures, was considered a legacy of the Yeltsin kakistocracy that once ruled the country. That being said, he demonstrated actual competence during his time in political office and his time at the Ministry of Emergencies — a rare trait in the Russian government over the last 30 years, to be sure. All that being said, he is not, strictly speaking what the military circles would consider to be a true-blue military man. There are rumors circulating now that he is about to be sacked, which are largely the result of him having dropped out of the public eye since March 11 of this year. Shoigu is widely known as a media enthusiast who enjoys putting himself in front of the cameras, which also lends credence to the rumors. I was hesitant to bring them up or give them any credence, but these rumors aren’t being promoted solely by the Ukrainians and Russian Liberals, but by Russian military men, who would like to see him replaced with one of their people, and ideally, a man with actual combat experience from either the Afghanistan or Chechen campaigns.

Firing Shoigu would be bad PR for the Kremlin now, but in terms of improving Russia’s military capabilities and continuing Russia’s move away from the legacy of the 90s, it’s really not the worst thing that could happen — in fact, military circles would rejoice at the news. This is also partially why the military experts and veteran officers have been so critical of the war effort so far. Russian military people believe that this war is being fought with political considerations in mind, and not as a strict military operation. Clausewitz once famously said that war is a continuation of politics by other means and that has certainly been the Kremlin’s approach to this operation. But now, having exhausted the possibility of taking Ukraine without any major bloodshed through other, more political methods involving diplomacy or subterfuge, the only way forward is to fall back on old-fashioned military force. The Russian army has abandoned Kiev and several other cities and is concentrating in Donbass to surround and destroy the hunkered down Ukrainian army. This is not exactly good news for Russia’s foreign policy and her political ambitions. Tens of thousands of Ukrainian soldiers are going to die now. Civilians will die as well. Relations with Ukraine will never be the same.

But, internally, this is not the worst possible outcome by any means because what the politicians bungled, the military men are being called in to fix now. This will translate into an increased share of power and prestige for the Russian military establishment within the country. A deeply conservative, militaristic and “old-school” faction is about to start flexing its muscles in Russian society now. This is not too dissimilar to the situation that existed in Tsarist Russia and the USSR, where the military was very much involved in politics and formed a hardcore conservative bulwark in society. This is simply a part of Russia’s pre-Yeltsin political tradition. In contrast, in much of the West, the military simply doesn’t have much to do with internal politics as an institution. But, in many other nations in the world, the military either significantly influences politics or simply runs the country outright. Remember: Post-Soviet Russia was run by a coalition of the office of the Presidency, the Federal Security Service, and the Oligarchs. If all goes well, the power vacuum caused by the shutdown of many oligarchs in recent months will be filled by the military.

Any genuine Russian restoration will have to involve the restoration of the prestige of the military — its reintegration into political life and it’s re-elevation within civil society. Much depends on the success of the Russian offensive in the Donbass.

(Republished from The Occidental Observer by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Exile says:

    Good and necessary perspective.

    The role of the military in the US is exaggerated (they’re the tail, not the dog) and “dictator Putin” is also a false idea.

    With the arguable exception of Stalin’s era, factionalism and coalition-building has always dominated inner-circle, upper-tier post-Czarist Russian politics.

    I remember when wiser Cold War analysts like Giraldi and Mearscheimer were the norm and these realities were factored into policy toward Russia, evaluating and predicting its leadership moves, etc…

    Now everything gets hammered into this childish comic-book/Hollywood template of evil Hitlerian dictators vs. noble democrats.

    It’s both deeply unserious and terrifying risky.

    • Agree: Old and Grumpy, Lurch685
    • Thanks: Boo
  2. Sean says:

    The Russian army has abandoned Kiev and several other cities and is concentrating in Donbass to surround and destroy the hunkered down Ukrainian army.

    The Russian army west of Kiev had to be withdrawn as it was in danger of being encircled. The lack of any threat to Kiev will make it possible to send strong forces to attack any Russian tank drive closing the back door on the dug in Ukrainian army in Donbass , So the Russian pincers from the north ounth wings Russian offensive will have to fight on the east and west as well as a north or south axis

    But, internally, this is not the worst possible outcome by any means because what the politicians bungled, the military men are being called in to fix now.

    It is kind of dubious that the ‘military men’ are able to do the things that one might assume they are the great experts at. Maybe they are so bad at warfighting because they spend all therir time plotting coups?

    Much depends on the success of the Russian offensive in the Donbass

    What Obama said in 2014 (as did Kissinger) was that Russia was no superpower, but rather a regional power and that it was in an irreversible decline. There are unmistakable signs that the Russian army is not powerful (as Kissinger said id in 2014). It is supposed to be able to compensate with massed artillery, yet no major city has been taken so far.

    In the Donbass the objective of the coming Russian offensive are known, as is the long exposed route it will have to take. When you factor in GPS artillery pinpointing is already zeroed in and the Ukrainians have the advantage of interior lines and much superior technology (it is actuall 1000 switchblades drones Ukraine has been promised of which several hundred have been delivered already) it is very difficult see how the Russian offensive could succeed even with superlative morale and motivation among the troops yet the reinforcements for the Donbass are from units that have just been literally decimated. A crushing defeat and a period of weak leadership if not chaos in Russia are begining to look very likely. I think Russia will be a serious threat to Ukraine for the foreseeable future.

    • Agree: meamjojo, peterAUS
    • Disagree: Joe Levantine
    • LOL: RIchebourg, Lurch685
    • Troll: RoatanBill, Boo, Realist
  3. Tsar Putin’s generals, from Shoigu on down, are as incompetent as Putin.

    at the rate their pathetic little war on the Ukraine is progressing,

    victory will be obtained on or about May 9th,

    2067.

    • Agree: meamjojo
    • Replies: @Sean
  4. Sean says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    I think Russia is going to be decisively beaten. But the next generation of Russian leaders will be extremely hostile to Ukraine, so it will never be able to relax/

    • Troll: Notsofast, ariadna
  5. Unit472 says:

    Russia’s lack of an industrial base seems to be a major problem- again. It got around that in WW2 with US/UK lend lease equipment who put the motors in all those Soviet ”motorized” rifle divisions but the problem seems even more acute today.

    Russia has competent design bureaus and engineers but the ability to manufacture modern weaponry in anything like the numbers required can be turned off via western sanctions. If your missiles and avionics depend on imported parts you are left with a few bespoke weapon systems you have to hoard not use less you run out and can produce no more.

    Maybe China will step up and produce the microchips and sensors Russia needs but cannot itself make. Problem is that is not a solution for the immediate need for more drones, precision guided munitions etc that Russia’s army needs RIGHT NOW in its fight with Ukrainian forces.

    • Agree: meamjojo
    • LOL: Boo
    • Replies: @Notsofast
    , @haha
  6. Notsofast says:

    …..not a military expert….spoken to several retired military men….made easier by the fact that i come from a military family……was one of them your 99 year old great grandfather that served at the battle of stalingrad?

    • LOL: meamjojo
  7. meamjojo says:

    “Back on the home front, Putin hasn’t even called up Russia’s reserves. Young men are NOT being drafted to go fight in the Ukraine.”

    Looking forward to this! More death and destruction of Russia’s youth will further constrain any possible future growth and recovery. Further, more Russian troops in the field will send more real news back to the homeland, which will counter any internal propaganda and turn the populace against Putin.

    • Troll: Notsofast, Boo, W
    • Replies: @Mario Partisan
  8. Notsofast says:
    @Unit472

    ….lack of industrial base…maybe they could get some help from their neighbors to the south….oh, what’s their name, i can never remember it, big country with like a billion plus people.. oh yeah, china! they seem to have a pretty good industrial base and they build shit real fast.

    ….competant design bureaus and engineers….now who would be interested in those enigmatic, esoteric, eggheads….oh yeah, china again.

    …..microchips and sensors, that russia needs and cannot produce itself….not unlike the u.s……maybe china will just grab taiwan and corner the market but they may want to give their pilots some combat training first…..i wonder where they could get that?

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    , @Unit472
  9. Yee says:

    Russia’s lack of an industrial base seems to be a major problem- again.

    Compare to whom? Ukraine? Is NATO going to supply everything Ukraine needs from now on?

    It seems Russia’s plan for a quick war hasn’t worked, so the next step would be going back to the old faction meat grinder. NATO countries should start hoarding food, fuel, steel, rubber etc. to supply Ukraine. War is about logistics. Get off your asses and get to work.

    • Replies: @meamjojo
    , @animalogic
  10. peterAUS says:

    Much depends on the success of the Russian offensive in the Donbass.

    Or failure.

    The ONLY way to succeed in the offensive is to mobilize the full resources of the RF. Get that, crucial, significant, overmatch in MEN and material.
    Execute the proper attrition warfare, of the Russian type, against the Joint Forces Operation troops.

    That requires at least 100 000 new troops as “teeth” and full war organization of European part of RF as “tail”.

    The cabal in Kremlin won’t do it. Hence, it will not work. It will be, in a several weeks to come, slow, grinding mess and, then, the stalemate. Not much different from what we have now on the ground.

    No prob, of course. If anything, the Scamdemic has taught us that the serfs anywhere will get their reality from TPBTs. Putin and his kleptorcrats will sell the ..ahm…victory…with ease.

    For a time being, depending on level of austerity the serfs will be willing to put up with in months to come. I can see Shanghai type lockdowns coming down too on top of it. For the common good, of course.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  11. meamjojo says:
    @Yee

    “Compare to whom? Ukraine? Is NATO going to supply everything Ukraine needs from now on?”

    Europe+USA will cover Ukraine’s needs until the Russian enemy has been vanquished. There will be much money to be made rebuilding Ukraine afterwards. Plenty of work for European and USA construction firms. Ukraine also has oil reserves, which could be developed by Western firms.

    • Replies: @haha
    , @annamaria
  12. Durruti says:
    @Sean

    I think Russia is going to be decisively beaten.

    Slavsky has an analysis of Russian society that deserves the respect of perusing. The first bunch of commentators are united by one common denominator, Hatred of Russia, (or better expressed as worship of the Zionist American British Imperialist Oligarchs).

    The above quote is better translated as ‘I/they hope Russia is going to be decisively beaten.”

    Quién sabe? Maybe they will be proven correct. Remember their prediction!

    I offer no prediction of the future, but make observations from recent recordable History.

    By the numbers:

    1. The Russians have saved Syria, and blocked (at least for now) the Zionist expansionist goal of “Eretz Israel.”

    2. They have saved Venezuela, Cuba, Kazakhstan, Iran, even Iraq. They even saved the Ruble!

    3. In 2022, the Russian people are in the process of Saving Themselves. Imperialist Nukes and Tanks on their borders are no longer being tolerated. They are much further along in this difficult process of National Recovery, than we Americans. We are slaves in our occupied and puppeted country. Our citizenry have lost all sense of manhood. They have forgotten that Freedom is not Free! It must be paid for!

    From the MOSSAD/CIA/MI6 assassination of our last Constitutional President, John F. Kennedy, in their Coup D’état of 11/22/1963, Assassinations followed by that of Robert Kennedy, M L King, Malcolm X, the musical Lennon, and many more, to the 30 years of Shadow Government of Ehud Barak, Maxwell, & Epstein, to the butcheries of the Liberty, 9/11, and the Planneddemic. Do I need a verb?

    The Russian’s difficult road forward will be marked by great sacrifices, as they slowly, and against great opposition (they confront an American taxpayer financed and Zionist trained army of 600,000 – the 2nd largest army in Europe), fight toward Berlin, once again.

    Missing in this 3rd European hosted World War, is the presence of Great Americans. The days of Eugene Debs, Mark Twain, Jefferson, Tom Paine, Walden & Hawthorn,& Hemingway, have long passed. Where are our Sons (or daughters), of Liberty, our Minutemen?

    I am reminded of a portion of a poem: ” But where can we draw water”
    said Pearse to Connoly,
    “When all the wells are parched away?
    O plain as plain can be
    There’s nothing but our own red blood
    Can make a right rose tree.”

    W. B. Yeats

    What will it take for we Americans to join Russians, Chinese, Indians, & all the others, in a world of Free Trade, Free Speech, Prosperity, and Ron Paul’s favorite, LIBERTY!

  13. @Sean

    What a pathetic joke you are. I assume you are just here to spout nonsense to get attention. Run out of homo porn?

    • Agree: W
  14. JR Foley says:

    You are going much much much tooooooo fast. United States of America was in Afghanistan for 20 years —–240 months but still lost——Now that is a supreme military machine of wimps and fools

    • Agree: Bro43rd
    • LOL: Old and Grumpy, haha
  15. “The hardliners want an incorporation of the entire territory of Ukraine into the Russian Federation, but are willing to settle for everything east of the Dniepr.”

    I must be a centrist because I am with the hardliners to the extent that I don’t want all of Ukraine but I do want a bit of the area west of the Dniepr River.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  16. @Sean

    “yet the reinforcements for the Donbass are from units that have just been literally decimated. ”

    Yeah, right, as the constant barrage from Russian artillary bashes my eardrums. You are an idiot.

  17. gT says:
    @Sean

    Relax dude, the Russians are always slow to get moving. In WW2 it took like 5 million being captured by Hitler before the rest decided to forget about the vodka and start fighting proper Russian style, which means slow grind attrition warfare.

    In Chechnya the first Russian recruits who surrendered all got their throats cut on video and only thereafter did the surviving Russians start doing the grinding, attrition job properly.

    So now in Ukraine it looks like most of the Russian troops went in thinking it was just a drive in their armored vehicles through different scenery. Some surrendered and got their throats cut, literally and figuratively, and now the survivors are going to exterminate the enemy and won’t stop until the job is done.

    So the initial hiccups are part and parcel of the Russian character, just like the Red Army steamroller is just unstoppable once its get going. The damn steamroller takes to much warming up to get going though. But once you see the Russians starting to use their flamethrowers you know they mean business, which is exactly what is happening in Eastern Ukraine now.

    • Replies: @Sean
    , @Pop Warner
  18. A deeply conservative, militaristic and “old-school” faction is about to start flexing its muscles in Russian society now.

    Any genuine Russian restoration will have to involve the restoration of the prestige of the military — its reintegration into political life and it’s re-elevation within civil society.

    As if though those extravagant military displays and long parades that Russia stages in central Moscow on May 9th have not already been conspicuously excessive, especially considering that Russia has not even been threatened by a potential invasion anyway. An even more elaborate military organization is going to be costly, so inevitably the additional resources for such an endeavor would have to be extracted from the people’s meager pockets.

    Establishing a militaristic society is a prescription for a hard-core totalitarian fascist control state in the future and would constitute an even greater aggressive threat to European countries, which will be compelled to enhance their defensive preparedness. A reasonable initial response would be to get rid of those numerous female ministers of defense across Europe, petty bureaucrats and political hacks who lack military experience or education.

  19. @meamjojo

    If I recall correctly, you are strongly opposed to the lockdown policies imposed by western regimes on their citizens.

    If I may ask, why are you so anti-Russia? What is the root of your sympathy for the Kiev government?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @meamjojo
  20. @Yee

    I agree with your wish for the “meat grinder”. No more bullshit — Russia needs to win this war, like yesterday.

    • Replies: @meamjojo
  21. Horus says:

    Russia hasn’t even called up its reserves? Because that’s always a sign things are going well….

    It’s fairly safe to say Putin doesn’t want a long and bloody war in Ukraine. However his stated aims were never compatible with such a thing. How can you realistically “denazifiy” and demilitarise a country the size of Ukraine in a short space of time?

    I can only presume they thought Zelenski would crumble and flee leaving the government in chaos. And that would lead to a rapid collapse of ukraines military command.

    Ultimately I expect Putin to carry on fighting and absorb heavy losses. It is Russias war to lose I’d agree with that so it remains to be seen what Russia can achieve.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  22. dimples says:

    “In contrast, in much of the West, the military simply doesn’t have much to do with internal politics as an institution.”

    Clearly this chap has never heard of the military industrial complex, the trillion dollar plus megaloth that runs the West under the table. It’s over the table sponsors are the Jews, being the main visible constituent of the War Party. These elements control all aspects of Western foreign policy, as seen by their successful promotion of this latest Ukraine disaster.

    Without this stellar group of adolescent evil militaristic scum controlling Western foreign policy, Mr Slavitsky would not even be writing this article. Instead peace would reign and he would be writing about something else entirely. The word he needs is ‘covert’. Everything, including the infiltration of politicians, media, educational system and all the institutions, is done under the table. It’s a form of incurable metastasized cancer that the victims don’t realize they have until it’s already too late.

  23. @Sean

    You got it wrong who’s being decimated. And this ratio will get far worse for the Ukrainians in the coming days.

    April11 Closing Report: 401 Deaths UKR/30 Rus, Total Thus Far 32,334 UKR Deaths, 3,398 Rus (regrettable)

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2022/04/11/april11-closing-report-401-deaths-ukr-30-rus-total-thus-far-32334-ukr-deaths-3398-rus-regrettable/

    • Replies: @Sean
  24. It looks like the rats hiding underground in Mariuopol will be drowned.

    Fire Trucks Being Brought To Ukraine Asovstal Steel Plant – Will Pump Water into Underground Hideouts to DROWN 3,000 Hold-out NAZIS

    https://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=252102

    That’s according to Hal Turner, but maybe he’s just saying what makes sense.

  25. Anonymous[779] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mario Partisan

    Yeah. Why isn’t she normal?

    • Replies: @Dumbo
  26. Corvinus says:

    “Therefore, all we really have to work with is speculation based on Telegram and Twitter videos and reports from embedded journalists. Or, we rely on the reports of Western intelligence agencies, which do not have a good track record“

    No speculation, just direct citizen journalism from where the action is taking place. Furthermore, you contradict yourself. The reports of Western intelligence reports also rely heavily on military analysts, which you said you also consulted.

  27. Wokechoke says:
    @Sean

    You assume they don’t attack in the north again.

  28. Wielgus says:
    @Commentator Mike

    It sounds to me like it will take a lot of water. After the assassination in Prague of Reinhard Heydrich in 1942, aome of the group responsible were cornered in the cellar of a church, and when they put up resistance fire vehicles were brought in to fill the cellar with water. But the cellar was large and the water never came close to drowning them. Flooding caverns under Azovstal seems even less feasible.

    • Replies: @Zachary Smith
  29. Wokechoke says:
    @Sean

    Major City? What about significant geographical features?

  30. Wokechoke says:
    @Notsofast

    It’s more that they couldn’t legally build them. There’s no rules on intellectual property now.

  31. Marcali says:

    The Ukraine has been a founding member of the United Nations since October 24, 1945.

    If the Russians had any teritorial issues with her, why did they not wake up in time?

    • Replies: @Thirdtwin
  32. @Horus

    The war Bush kicked off against terrorism lasted 20 years and the terrorists were a lot weaker than these Nazis. Even if it ends quickly in the Ukraine this won’t be over and the Nazis include a lot more than just those in the Ukraine.

    Ultimately this is about Zionists creating a new strategically placed node to destabilise Russia and Europe, and Zelenski has said as much with his statement that the Ukraine, or whatever remains of it, will become a new Israel. The Zionists already have Israel that has been destabilising the Middle East and North Africa since the end of WWII and if course USA that serves to destabilise the Americas south of the border. Destabilise and control. Australia, the other outpost of Zionism is too far to have much of an influence in the far East although it’s done a fair jib of destabilising parts of Indonesia.

    Zionism has been growing in strength with now far better relations between Israel and East European countries than during the period of the Warsaw Pact and it has now established closer relations with even some Arab countries which has led to destabilisation of the Arabian peninsula with the war in Yemen and soon with one to include Morocco, Algeria and the Spanish Sahara. So expect more wars in Europe too and the spreading of the Ukrainian conflict as that is what putting Jews in power in the Ukraine in 2014 was all about.

  33. Sean says:
    @gT

    In WW2 it took like 5 million being captured by Hitler before the rest decided to forget about the vodka and start fighting proper Russian style,

    They got half a million American trucks, plus much else and while it is true the Russians were slow in the cases everyone thinks about they were fighting inside Russia and were not fighting alone. Time is not on Russia’s side because they have not mobilized and Ukraine has. They would be better off starting the ground attack immediately and calling up the reserves too. As it is the Ukrainian military have more troops to draw on and their equipment, much of which is better, is pilling up by the week Europe is emptying it war stocks of all these sophisticated weapons.

    They are not actual ‘flamethrower’s they are fuel air rocket munitions with a relatively short range and will be no use in open steppe. The Ukrainians are going to be all set up and waiting in full force by the time the Russians compete their ponderous concentration. What seems to be happening is the Russian military are deluding themselves that the Ukrainians will not be able to stand and fight a conventional battle in open country so if the Russian tanks ans SP gens plus slogistics to keep them in action arrive en mass in good order after endless air attacks it does not matter when. Big mistake. Many Russian generals have the appearance of heavy drinkers, that may be an explanation.

    • Replies: @gT
  34. Dumbo says:
    @Anonymous

    Well, I guess it’s “normal” to be affected in one way or another by ridiculous propaganda, but Meamjojo borders hysteria. But now that you said that she’s a woman, that might be explained. Next you’ll tell me that she’s also Jewish, and lesbian, then things might really fall into place.

    • Agree: A. Nonymous
  35. Nat X says:

    Lot of incel russian fanboys here…pathetic

    • Troll: A. Nonymous
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  36. US military very much involved in US politics. Bases and other military installations exist in all 50 states. Representatives and senators are constantly fighting for larger allocation of military budget to the bases and military contractors in their own states. All of that on top of politicians insisting US maintain global preponderance of power.

    • Replies: @Exile
  37. @Commentator Mike

    Fire Trucks, Oy Vey, might get damp down there, probably take about three months to flood the place, if they don’t have generators running sump pumps. On the other hand a few big pumps like those used in gold mining will float the scum to the surface ‘toot Sweet’ ces ces Bon.

    Cheers M

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  38. Unit472 says:
    @Notsofast

    You really are something. “Just go grab Taiwan” eh?.

    I’ve gone through this before but lets do it again. In early 1945 the US was going to just ”go grab Taiwan”. American planners said we would have to land 12 divisions of soldiers to do it. That is almost a D-Day sized force only you are crossing open ocean to reach the invasion beaches not the English Channel. Navy said, wait a minute and Okinawa was substituted. It would ONLY require landing 7 divisions. On April 1, 1945 the biggest battle of the Pacific War kicked off when a HUGE American fleet landed on Okinawa. 82 days later the Japanese were wiped out and the island taken. For 82 days the US Navy had to anchor offshore to resupply the US soldiers ashore. The Japanese had thousands of first generation precision guided munitions called Kamikazes to attack those ships. They used them and sank or torched over 50 of them. Some 15,ooo US sailors and soldiers died ”grabbing Okinawa”.

    The US had been conducting continuous amphibious operations for 3 years. We knew how to do it. We had built the specialized boats and ships to move men and equipment from the ships to the shore. We had total air and sea supremacy. China has never conducted a major amphibious assault. Not one and you think they can just sally forth from their ports and ”Grab Taiwan”?

    • Agree: peterAUS
    • Thanks: A. Nonymous
    • Replies: @Notsofast
  39. Can you truly believe that Putin “needs a victory of some sort or another to hang his hat on”?
    Has Putin hung his hat not already in the highest place possible by snatching the Russian peoples from the clutches of Satan?
    Why is Putin most popular among nationalists worldwide? Because he saved his nation from total destruction? Why is that so called “West” so edgy and hostile with Russia – “Putin”?
    Why is Putin the most hated amongst globalists?
    Are the peoples of the Ukraina the icing on Russia’s cake?
    Is it a cake which belongs to Russia, which is Russia, which Russia can eat and still have?
    Ask Babushka:

    https://udovoigt.de/?p=2122&lang=en
    https://www.unz.com/aanglin/nbc-report-intelligence-agencies-leaked-fake-news-about-russia-for-info-war/#comment-5279431

    Bismarck was our Putin. Bismarck had done his time in the Russian Army.

    “Glory to Russia” is glory for the True North.

    Versus a contribution to a little unendingly greedy Jewish rat from a real Nazi (?):

  40. @Commentator Mike

    Video take from a soldier there: First we are clearing the factories inside and then we will see how we are going to deal with the underground.

  41. Millions of Germans – there are alone 5 million born Russians living, working and studying in Germany – are in deep support of Russia. Millions of Germans are disappointed about the evil grip of the Jewnighted States of Israhell on Europe and the remnants of Germany in particular.


  42. TheJester says:

    Stalingrad was an abject lesson on both sides regarding modern siege warfare and what happens when an army engages in urban warfare. The Soviets destroyed the German 6th Army within the rubble of Stalingrad … but that is the point: the battle destroyed the city and the Soviets suffered 1,100,000 casualties in the process.

    Perhaps learning from this experience, the Allies forbade its forces from engaging in “city busting” as they plunged north toward Nazi Germany. Yes, the Allies took Rome and Paris (both without much damage), but the generals in charge had disobeyed direct orders when they did so. Indeed, the decision to avoid participating in another “Stalingrad” was perhaps behind General Eisenhower’s decision to let the Soviets take Berlin. The Soviets turned it into rubble but suffered almost 340,000 casualties for the privilege of taking the city.

    The “Stalingrad” lesson about urban warfare is unquestionably behind the excruciatingly long time it took the Russians and DPR forces to finally take Mariupol. The Russian/DPR forces now control the city, but the fear of unacceptable casualties is the declared reason that the Russians and DPR forces are currently “waiting out” the Ukrainian forces hold up in the Azovstal iron and steelworks rather than digging them out of their underground bunkers.

    The Russians taking Kyiv and Karkov would be orders of magnitude more costly in time and military and civilian casualties than taking Mariupol. It won’t happen. The Russians and DPR forces finally took Mariupol but, as expected, it was wrecked in the process. I believe that Mariupol was a special case for the Russians as the headquarters for the UkroNazi Azov forces. Taking Mariupol was considered worth the cost as a key element of the Russian “denazification” program. Russia and the DPR now face the burden of rebuilding the city.

    The Lesson of Stalingrad: Urban warfare is costly. Avoid it whenever possible. Wait them out, starve them out, or negotiate terms … but do NOT attempt to dig them out.

    • Agree: RIchebourg, A. Nonymous
    • Replies: @Durruti
  43. Sean says:
    @Durruti

    Russia has not been competitive in military science or technology since the 80s, and their being unable to combat drones was famously well demonstrated long before the invasion

    While most countries struggle with the COVID-19 pandemic, the civil wars in Syria and Libya have become battlegrounds for foreign states … but not all the weapons have performed as claimed. Perhaps the most startling example of this is how ineffective modern Russian air defense systems have been at countering drones and low-flying missiles. In the face-off between expensive air defensive systems and lower cost offensive drones and low-flying missiles, the offense is winning

    . In 2020 the much vaunted Russian anti-drone system Repellent (supposedly able to create a 30 km bubble that no enemy drone could fly into) was was not only ineffective one was destroyed in Armenia by a low tech Turkish drone Over a score of Pantsir air defense systems (also supposedly deadly to drones) were destroyed by Turkish drones in Syria and Lybia. Mearsheimer has cited Ukraine getting those Turkish drones the other year as a major reason for Putin deciding he had to invade. After all, a drone can catch you at your most vulnerable, and a quarter of Russians don’t have an inside toilet. The Russians are totally helpless, like ants being fried with a magnifying glass.

    Once cut off from innovations that Russia cannot produce it is going to become technologically dependent on China within a generation. China is the great winner in all this, and it will also get Russian women as surrogate mothers in the way thousands of Ukrainian females already are for Chinese couples. China was already heavily involved in infrastructure projects in Ukraine before the war, and you can bet the rebuilding will involve them a lot.

    • Replies: @Poco
    , @haha
  44. Exile says:
    @Matt Lazarus

    The military itself doesn’t call the shots – the same cabal of donors who run the rest of the government tell the military what to do.

    The author is talking about the military as a force that operates with its own agenda with the implied threat and capability of taking control if its agenda isn’t served – ala the military coups and juntas we’ve seen in Latin America, Egypt or Greece.

    Miley and the other military “leaders” take their orders from Soros, Saban, the Kochs and the Adelsons just like the other politicians do. They’re apparatchiks.

    • Agree: ariadna
    • Replies: @Matt Lazarus
  45. When Putin sent the air force into Syria he said that the operation would be over in three months but they still do bombing runs there. When Bush sent the army into Afghanistan he said the war on terror would last 15 years, but it ended up lasting five years longer. Putin says what he says to get going and win support for his operations, not that he necessarily thinks it will be quick and easy.

  46. @Durruti

    Russia will go her own way, her destiny will not be found in this edifice of rot (i.e., western colleagues and partners’). She stands on the shoulders of great art, great achievement, great sacrifice. Hers is the existential struggle, for her humanity, and maybe the world. This is why her young men are dying.
    In Russia’s case, she can topple Societe Generale, and watch the dominoes fall, what’s to lose? It will wreck China, too, but Russia’s in the batter’s box, China’s on deck.

    • Agree: RobinG
  47. @sean the leprechaun

    Well that was from Hal Turner. He used to appear in many funny memes on the Daily Stormer brandishing a gun and getting blamed by Andrew Anglin for all sort of extremist attacks he had nothing to do with.

  48. Anonymous[363] • Disclaimer says:
    @Nat X

    Hey girlie: I’m rubber, you’re glue. What you say bounces off me and sticks to you.

  49. @Durruti

    Well, China would have to allow individual liberty, for one thing. Next.

    • Replies: @Durruti
  50. Notsofast says:
    @Unit472

    you’re kind of stuck in a ww2 mindset. just because ukraine is being prosecuted in a conventional manner doesn’t mean we’re seeing the most advanced weapons available. half the reason they engineered this war was to get the russians to show their hand (which they will not do). the other half was to destroy and replace the old soviet equipment in eastblock nato countries, getting russia to burn up her arsenal on the antiquated junk they’re sending the ukranazis. the chinese might want to send some pilots to see what they can expect in the way of manpads and drones. i’m sure the u.s. has well stocked ratnests in taiwan just like ukraine and i’m sure the chinese have gained valuable insights, for if the u.s. is able to succeed with their wars of dirty tricks, you can be sure this pattern will be repeated in taiwan.

    if the chinese went into taiwan we might start to see some new tech, you’ll notice that taiwan has had some problems keeping their jets in the air, losing a few f16s into the drink lately, japan too, losing a f35 that fell right into the water. now this might just be caused by inferior design or outdated, overworked equipment but functional e.m.p. weapons, would be as big of a game changer as the development of air power in the previous century.

    • Replies: @Unit472
  51. @Commentator Mike

    Statement from Russian commander on scene stated first objective would be to identify entry points to the tunnels and then perhaps pump in tear gas to get the “moles out of their holes” as he described them. Hence the disinformation from MSM in the west that Russians plan to use sarin gas … a lie. Flooding could be an additional tactic. The commander also stated they do not want an all out assault as it would lead to many casualties on the Russian side. No need to take that approach.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  52. The reason that Anglo / Zionist forces do so well, for example, in the 6 Day / Yom Kippur wars to Gulf Wars and everything in between, is that they always control the senior planners of the opposition.

  53. Durruti says:
    @TheJester

    The Soviets destroyed the German 6th Army within the rubble of Stalingrad … but that is the point: the battle destroyed the city and the Soviets suffered 1,100,000 casualties in the process.

    Surely you Jest/er!

    And Stalin killed 60 million (in a nation of 120 million). And 6 million died in the Holohoax. And every battle the Soviets won cost them more casualties than the LOSER suffered. By the time the Russians entered Berlin, they had only 5 soldiers remaining.

    Excuse me! The coffee is wearing off!

  54. Durruti says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Well, China would have to allow individual liberty, for one thing.

    My favorite flavor; I support Republican forms of Government, with their Separation of Powers & provision for periodic Elections.

    When (2000), I ran for the State House in PA: 131st district, I declared my support for the Jeffersonian – Constitutional Republic form of Political Culture. I had declared myself an Anarchist (and won the contested Democrat Gang Primary). I lost to my Republican opponent (outspent \$40,000 to \$2,000), but held the Democrat base & received 40% of the votes.

    In 2022, my opinion of support for Republican Political Culture has not changed. I advocate this culture as being the best and safest for all nations (including China). The Key Morality: I oppose all Imperialist hypocritical military/economic pressures being placed on Foreign Nations to achieve such an announced goal. Additionally, the USA has not been a Republic, nor Sovereign, since November 22, 1963. Zionist Rothschild & company Occupied America may not serve as an example for anything, other than craven servility.

    https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=da5f2cb19804c1a0c557c21b900562ae08b166e36aa2e29cf97133142fb87c63JmltdHM9MTY0OTc3OTM0OSZpZ3VpZD05NTkxYzczZi00MGJkLTQwYmEtOGUzMC1iMjYwYTAzMTU2OWUmaW5zaWQ9NTE2MQ&ptn=3&fclid=f3c4bb71-ba79-11ec-9836-a8239a558f4a&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuam5zLm9yZy9pbi1sYXJnZXN0LWV2ZXItZGVsZWdhdGlvbi03Mi1jb25ncmVzc21lbi1kb250LXNraXB0aGV0cmlwLWV4cHJlc3MtYmlwYXJ0aXNhbi1zdXBwb3J0LWZvci1pc3JhZWwvP21zY2xraWQ9ZjNjNGJiNzFiYTc5MTFlYzk4MzZhODIzOWE1NThmNGE&ntb=1

    Republics may not be constructed on the bayonets of Foreign Invaders’ armies. Peoples of all nations must determine their own futures.

    Dr. Peter J. Antonsen ———— nom de guerre, Durruti

    • Replies: @Durruti
  55. Poco says:
    @Sean

    It’s a good thing they entered Ukraine when they did then.

  56. haha says:
    @Unit472

    Are you trolling or are you plain ignorant and brainwashed? Do you seriously believe that “It got around that in WW2 with US/UK lend lease equipment who put the motors in all those Soviet…”?
    Please read any standard military history of WW2. The Wehrmacht was taken aback at the quality and quantity of tanks and artillery that the USSR could produce. By 1943 the USSR was outproducing the Germans in tanks and artillery and warplanes and just about everything. The Germans got the shit beaten out of them by superior and more numerous Soviet equipment and the bravery of the red army.
    Maybe you want to live in la la Rambo land of Hollywood. But if you care to find out the truth, watch many of the numerous WW2 analyses on Youtube delivered by senior American military officers and historians. Just search “T-34 tank” on Youtube or Google and take it up from there.

  57. haha says:
    @Sean

    “Russia has not been competitive in military science or technology since the 80s,”

    Yeah, so why does NASA need Russian rockets to get into space?

    • Replies: @meamjojo
  58. haha says:
    @meamjojo

    “There will be much money to be made rebuilding Ukraine afterwards. Plenty of work for European and USA construction firms. Ukraine also has oil reserves, which could be developed by Western firms.”

    Thank you for your honesty – unintended though it might have been. You have just confessed that for the Americans war is just a money-making racket.

    • Agree: A. Nonymous
    • Replies: @meamjojo
  59. Sure in rut . Stop stooging for russia. Get off your kners and stop.assuming the position. Be a man who walks upright.

  60. Even if one concedes that Russia was treated disrespectfully regarding the expansion of NATO and in other geopolitical moves by the West, there was no reason for it to send an army crashing into Ukraine, with all the killing and destruction that brings.

    But what about the military threat of Ukraine, the Russia backers will say – NATO potentially arming Ukraine with missiles that can hit Moscow? To begin with, it’s become clear that NATO was not going to invite Ukraine any time soon. Secondly, what if NATO missiles were put in Ukraine? Yes, they might be able to hit Russia faster than OTHER missiles NATO has, but is it really worth starting a war and killing a bunch of Ukrainians over missiles that – in an apocalyptic scenario – would hit Moscow 15 minutes sooner than ones not in Ukraine? In the insanity of an all-out war with the NATO vs. Russia, it’s a big deal if Russians live 15 minutes longer because the missiles that hit them were farther away to start with?

    For people who DO want Russia to remain an independent country, Putin seems to have given the war party/neocons a big gift. Namely, the excuse to keep sanctions on and keep isolating and making a pariah of Russia. Want to bring Russia back into the fold of civilized nations? NO, will say the neocons – remember Ukraine! Russia must remain a pariah as long as Putin stays in power! The argument may be made that the sanctions regime was always going to be the case, because the neocons want Putin gone, IAC. But the Ukraine invasion is the most ammo that the war party has ever been gifted. Putin may be at 80% in polling now, but where will he be in 1 0r 2 years if his economic planning isn’t any better than his military planning? Plus, it’s doubtful that the average Russian likes Putin having made Russians into pariahs in the eyes of the Western masses. Putin should cut his losses, asap.

    • Agree: meamjojo
    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @Poco
    , @annamaria
  61. @gT

    That was also the thinking of the German High Command in WWI, but it turned out that that machine never got moving at all and resulted not just in defeat on the front lines but chaos and insurrection at home. Don’t assume that it’ll all just work out in a month’s time, it could cost Russia the war and Putin his regime. Get going now instead of rolling the dice on the future.

    • Replies: @gT
  62. SteveK9 says:

    Very rational, seems very insightful. Is this whole series on Unz?

  63. SteveK9 says:

    Does Russia have experience in dealing with this (below). It seems very, very difficult.

    Mikhail Mizintsev, the head of the National Defense Control Center of Russia, said that the Kiev regime is preparing a provocation with staged filming in Irpen in the vicinity of the Ukrainian capital in order to blame Moscow.

    For this purpose, a curfew and a complete blockade of the city are being imposed there. At the same time, only representatives of law enforcement agencies and “incomprehensible” volunteers will be allowed to enter during this period.”

    Mizintsev also said that nationalists are deploying heavy weapons in densely populated neighborhoods of Kharkiv. Positions are equipped in residential buildings, kindergartens and schools.

    At the same time, evacuation from the city is prohibited from April 10. Nationalists go to private homes and forcibly seize food, valuables and cars from people.

  64. Unit472 says:
    @Notsofast

    Enough discussing anything with you. You have comic book mind so I suspect you are either very young, very stupid or both. EMP weapons, Russia hiding its technology. Next you’ll be telling us about Photon torpedos or phasers set on stun.

    Somethings don’t change. Taking an island is one of them. Taiwan, with well over 20 million people could raise a million man army to defend their island. At some point you have to stop the bombardment and send your infantry in to kill the defenders in their pill boxes, tunnels and caves. Go read how difficult it was for the US to take Sugarloaf, a 50 foot high mound on Okinawa and then remember Taiwan is the most mountainous island in Asia with hundreds of peaks as high as 13,000 feet. Taiwan has had 75 years to honeycomb them with tunnels and gun positions that would open up on any Chinese forces that get ashore. We studied the problem in 1945 and said no thanks, we’ll bypass this porcupine.

    • Replies: @Notsofast
    , @frankie p
  65. RobinG says:
    @Durruti

    What will it take for we Americans to join Russians, Chinese, Indians, & all the others, in a world of Free Trade, Free Speech, Prosperity, and Ron Paul’s favorite, LIBERTY!

    This “LIBERTY!” word is misunderstood, misused, and generally a sham & scam. You’re free to find your next meal. All life is a struggle, and the benefit of being a bully is getting a free ride on someone else’s toil.

    Missing in this 3rd European hosted World War, is the presence of Great Americans.

    Americans have no business there, especially since they’d be on the wrong side. So far, so good, except for those deluded shmucks who are over there for the fun of it, and maybe a few agents of Empire trapped in the bowels of Azovstal.

    From Andrei today – “Answering Propaganda Off the Cuff.”
    Some Soldiers Of (Mis)Fortune…
    https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/

    His latest talking head –

    • Replies: @Durruti
  66. meamjojo says:
    @haha

    Thank you for your honesty – unintended though it might have been. You have just confessed that for the Americans war is just a money-making racket.

    Is there some other justification for war? Racial hate perhaps?

  67. RobinG says:
    @Ukraine Tiger

    Yes, it makes no sense to divide Kiev, and they need to control both banks of the river.

  68. meamjojo says:
    @animalogic

    The one good thing about this war is that the USA, NATO and even China are getting a good look at how poor the Russian military is, how deficient they are in equipment maintenance, operations, logistics and leadership.

    I’d wager that 3/4 of their nukes probably don’t work and with sanctions, they won’t be able to repair much of anything.

    The noose continues to tighten around Russia/Putin’s neck.

  69. peterAUS says:
    @Frank Walus

    …is it really worth starting a war and killing a bunch of Ukrainians over missiles that – in an apocalyptic scenario – would hit Moscow 15 minutes sooner than ones not in Ukraine?…

    That question was answered in Cuban crisis.

    Russia, it’s a big deal if Russians live 15 minutes longer because the missiles that hit them were farther away to start with?

    Definitely.
    It’s not about “living longer”. It’s about invalidating/canceling the very concept of M.A.D.

    Putin may be at 80% in polling now, but where will he be in 1 0r 2 years if his economic planning isn’t any better than his military planning?

    Now, THAT’s an interesting question.
    Maybe:

    • Troll: Notsofast
  70. meamjojo says:
    @haha

    “Russia has not been competitive in military science or technology since the 80s,”

    Yeah, so why does NASA need Russian rockets to get into space?

    Because our politicians suck and NASA is a bloated management nightmare. Had we any foresight, we would have used our clear technology advantage displayed with the 1st moon landing in 1969 to have built a real space station in Earth orbit that would have then provided a jumping off point to building a moon base within 20 years and a Mars colony by 2010.

    Instead, the politicians funneled much of the money into the MIC and one war after another, both easy vote getters. .

    • Replies: @annamaria
  71. RobinG says:
    @RIchebourg

    Yes, thank you. There are also believed to be civilian hostages. Also evidence to preserve. Also the steel works left as in tact as possible. Patience will win.

  72. Durruti says:
    @RobinG

    “Missing in this 3rd European hosted World War, is the presence of Great Americans.” – Me

    Americans have no business there, especially since they’d be on the wrong side. So far, so good, except for those deluded shmucks who are over there for the fun of it, and maybe a few agents of Empire trapped in the bowels of Azovstal.

    “The presence of Great Americans” – is for here at home, in America. For our Republic, for our Souls.

    I am an American Patriot. Ones’ government may be composed of Traitorous gauleiters, and ours is. It must be resisted.

    America, is our Country. Love it or leave it!

  73. SteveK9 says:

    Here is a good companion piece to Slavskiy’s more philosophical article. A masterful summary of the Ukraine War to date by Marko Marjanovic interviewed by Mike Whitney, here at Unz. Of all the analyses I’ve read on what is happening and is likely to happen this is the best (in my opinion) and that includes all the usual suspects.

    https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/ukraines-fate-is-now-in-russias-hands/

  74. And we’re told every night, ad nausem, the Russian have tucked their tail between the legs and are on their way to Moscow with plenty of pilfered undergarments. And just like George Dubya, Joe Biden is going to land a fighter jet on to an aircraft carrier in the Euxine Sea to the cheering crowd from the Azov Battalion. Hurray!

  75. We need this to escalate into WWIII.

    We need a good war, like Uncle Victor said. Uncle Victor is my hero. He even inspires pacifist Harold into patriotic fervor.

  76. Notsofast says:
    @Unit472

    yeah, yeah, i know you raised the flag on iwo jima but if you think you know the most advanced weapons systems of any of the key players you are deluded. so nobody is working on emp weapons or lasers or any of the “comic book, sci-fi” technologies, go back to sleep and dream of being a hero on the beaches of normandy.

  77. frankie p says:
    @Unit472

    Although this statement of yours is all true, you don’t really see the big picture, and you exaggerate the situation horribly. I should know, as I live in Taiwan, and I have lived here for over 30 years.

    “Taking an island is one of them. Taiwan, with well over 20 million people could raise a million man army to defend their island. At some point you have to stop the bombardment and send your infantry in to kill the defenders in their pill boxes, tunnels and caves. Go read how difficult it was for the US to take Sugarloaf, a 50 foot high mound on Okinawa and then remember Taiwan is the most mountainous island in Asia with hundreds of peaks as high as 13,000 feet. Taiwan has had 75 years to honeycomb them with tunnels and gun positions that would open up on any Chinese forces that get ashore.”

    “Taiwan could raise a million man army.” So, where are they? Why, in the face of the YUGE threat from China, according to the American media anyway, haven’t the Taiwanese organized their reserves? That’s right, Taiwan has a huge reserve of so-called “soldiers” who have completed their mandatory military service who could be called up for service to defend “The Republic of China”. The problem is, these reservists have NO IDEA where to report in the case of belligerence. That’s right, they haven’t been informed where to report or what their duties will be. They have not undergone regular and routine training to be prepared for WAR. In other words, when the SHTF, there will be total chaos. Next, I mentioned that these “soldiers” who completed their mandatory military service could be called up as reservists, but I didn’t mention the length of their mandatory military service. Young men in Taiwan used to serve for TWO YEARS in the military; in my view, that’s a reasonable amount of time to receive some significant military training. The problem is that 15 or 20 years ago they began shortening the service time, and for the past years young men have been required to serve FOUR MONTHS only. What kind of “soldiers” do you think they are?

    “…send your infantry in to kill the defenders in their pill boxes, tunnels and caves” I went exploring the pill boxes, tunnels and caves here in Southern Taiwan. They were all built by the Japanese. “Taiwan has had 75 years to honeycomb them with tunnels and gun positions…” UTTER NONSENSE. You do not inhabit the world of reality. Do you think Taiwan has built significant military infrastructure like this, honeycombing the high mountains with tunnel and gun positions? Firstly, the high mountains are too far from the coast; it is the low mountains closer to the coast that the Japanese fortified to prepare for an American attack from the south. The Americans had determined the beaches in southern Taiwan for an assault, and the Japanese knew which they would attack. These fortifications are still there, but they are not in use.

    The summary here is clear: Taiwan has depended and still depends on expected US intervention and protection in the case of a Chinese attack.

    I should mention that it is my opinion that the Chinese have no plan to attack Taiwan unless certain clear red lines are crossed. These include but are not limited to 1) any declaration from Taiwan that China feels is one of independence 2) any significant US troops sent to the island 3) US naval visits to Taiwan ports 4) the sale of significantly better and offensive weapons from the US.

    Time is on the side of the Chinese. Their economy will continue to grow, regardless of US actions to try to contain it or sanction it.

    Now let’s talk honestly about how a Chinese attack would manifest. First, there would be no storming of the beaches. Your statement: “At some point you have to stop the bombardment and send your infantry in to kill the defenders”, is true, if there are actually defenders who have the stomach to continue to the fight and believe that they have a fighting chance to win. Any Chinese attack on Taiwan would begin with a decapitation effort. The main government buildings, the Taiwan presidential palace, the Legislative Yuan building, etc. would be destroyed. This would deal a strong blow to the spirit of the people of Taiwan, as they would feel that their government was gone, which would be partly true. At the same time, missiles would pound military bases, airfields, ports, etc, hampering Taiwan’s ability to put planes in the air and ships and boats at sea. Civilian infrastructure would not be attacked. At this point, negotiations for surrender would begin.

    I hope that this scenario never plays out, and I’m sure that if it does, it will be the result of US provocation.

    • Agree: Arthur MacBride
    • Thanks: annamaria
    • Replies: @A. Nonymous
  78. Interesting talk I recently found regarding Russian Modern Warfare specifically as it applies to Ukraine. Take it for what you will –

    https://odysee.com/@RyanDawson:6/RussianModernWarfare:5

  79. in many other nations in the world, the military either significantly influences politics or simply runs the country outright.

    I’m beginning to suspect that the pearl-clutching horror that modern western societies tend to exhibit towards military involvement in domestic politics is largely because of the tendency of military types to be “deeply conservative” and “old-school”. Few things probably terrify the Justin Trudeaus of this world more than the prospect of the men with the tanks and machine guns saying “no.”

  80. @Wielgus

    It sounds to me like it will take a lot of water.

    This could be a bluff to encourage surrender. Other options might include “smoking” them out, but doing that would raise howls of “chemical warfare” unless the smoke was from genuine smudge fires. Maybe even then.

    Violent underground explosions could be arranged – strong enough to destroy a human body but not likely to damage concrete. I’d broadcast a warning on this one, for the “regular” soldiers ought to have a chance to leave.

  81. annamaria says:
    @Sean

    You are blinded by the greatness of the pure-bred Ukrainian men and women in charge of Ukraine such as Kolomojsky, Zelinsky, Nuland-Kagan, Blinken, Sullivan, and the likes.

  82. Battle Raging On The Azov Sea In Mariupol (Special Report Under Fire)

    I’m not a great fan of videos, so I was late in clicking on the work of reporter Patrick Lancaster. What struck me about this one was the fate of the civilians of Mariupol. One person told how the Ukrainian military told them to evacuate to a school. For some reason they didn’t leave their home, and the school was destroyed by shelling. The man didn’t seem to believe this was a coincidence, and his suspicious nature ended up saving the lives of his group of ten people.

  83. Poco says:
    @Frank Walus

    I think Russia, China, India, are saying piss on the opinion of western masses.

  84. annamaria says:
    @peterAUS

    “Larry Johnson On Psyops:” https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2022/04/larry-johnson-on-psyops.htm

    I am both amused and sickened by the spectacle of the pundit Generals populating the cable news channels. They offer a harsh, delusional criticism of Russia’s lack of progress on the ground in Ukraine without conceding their own failures to pacify Iraq and Afghanistan. Notwithstanding an 800 billion dollar defense budget, the U.S. military failed to defeat the Taliban and failed to secure Iraq. Spending lots of money does not guarantee military success. And the good Lord knows we spent a ton. To what end?

    “Answering Propaganda Off the Cuff.”

  85. bert33 says:

    Russia’s been around for centuries and if europe ever stands opposite an irate russia they stand to lose bigly. NATO should be defunded so nobody gets any bright ideas that might result in russian armor finding their way back to berlin. Zelensky needs to present himself to the russian authorities so we can have a full clearing-of-the-air and get to the bottom of what’s been going on in the ukraine for the last decade or so. He needs to man up and do what’s right for his people, and stop playing camera propaganda games. Zelensky is apparently an actor by trade so…big show’s over

  86. annamaria says:
    @meamjojo

    “Europe+USA will cover Ukraine’s needs…”

    — Europe+USA “have been covering” Ukraine’s needs for eight years, making it into the poorest and most corrupt country in Europe. By the way, the USA did the “cover” on the highest level by sending the crackhead Hunter Biden himself to “improve” Ukraine. He has got a nice gesheft there, for the ordinary Ukrainians’ expense.

    The Judeo-Nazi have their own long-term interest in “covering” and converting Ukraine into a “promised land.” This is why an Israeli citizen Kolomojsky funded and financed the self-proclaimed Nazi Azov Battalion, whereas Ziocon Nuland-Kagan did her best to charm and purchase the so-called White Fuhrers (they happened to be very cheap).

    Mr. Ze, of homoerotic persuasion, and Mr. Blinken (of Epstein connections) have also been very handy at “covering Ukraine’s needs” by arranging Ukrainian men into cannon fodder for the Judea’s war on Russia. Mazel Tov!

    “Succumbing to US Bullying Made Ukraine Poorest Country in Europe:” https://www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/2019/07/10/2050611/succumbing-to-us-bullying-made-ukraine-poorest-country-in-europe-finnish-analyst

    Here is a sample of high-value Jewish culture for Ukraine: “Zelensky Dancing in Heels.”

  87. annamaria says:
    @Frank Walus

    “Even if one concedes that Russia was treated disrespectfully…” – you mean, according to Talmud, Russia was treated properly?

    — Do you have parents, a wife, and children? Do you know that the US has at least 800 military bases worldwide to prop the empty dollar – and kill a lot of people and even destroy whole countries to please Banksters?

    The Pentagon Bio-weapons https://dilyana.bg/the-pentagon-bio-weapons/

    https://news.cgtn.com/news/2022-03-31/The-untold-secrets-of-America-s-biolabs-in-Ukraine--18QlXvmuNa0/index.html

    …according to the research from U.S. National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine (NASEM), the U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) has so far invested over \$200 million … to collaborate with Ukraine on these labs. A U.S.-Ukraine agreement signed in 2005 also clearly stipulates that DoD representatives have the right to participate in related activities at facilities in Ukraine and the Ukrainian side shall store all dangerous pathogens at these labs, share relevant data with the U.S., transfer to the U.S. pathogen strains, and withhold from public disclosure of information designated by the U.S. as “sensitive.” [Why? – The Ziocons insist that this is a healthcare-related program]

    What is hidden in the biolabs?

    The U.S. claims that the facilities in Ukraine would help prevent biological security risks and improve public health. However, the Russian defense ministry recently disclosed information showing the scope of U.S. biological military activities in Ukraine. With Ukraine as the center, the U.S. has set up a secret biological research network spanning Europe and Asia. For instance, the UP-4 project studies the possibility of the spread of avian viruses through migrating birds. The R-781 project considers bats as carriers of pathogens that can be transmitted to humans. The UP-8 project studies the Congo-Crimean hemorrhagic fever and hantavirus. It is argued that the UP-8 project is conducted because the pathogens studied have natural foci both in Ukraine and Russia, and their use can be disguised as natural outbreaks of diseases.

    Why does the U.S. stand against the world?

    The White House claimed on March 10 that the U.S. is in full compliance with its obligations under the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC) and the Biological Weapons Convention (BWC) and does not develop or possess such weapons anywhere. However, over the past two decades or so, the U.S. has been standing alone in opposing the establishment of a BWC verification mechanism, asserting the unverifiability of the biological field and that verification may pose threats to its national interests and business secrets. In the meantime, the U.S. is the sole possessor state party of chemical weapons and has twice missed the deadline for its destruction.

    It is the Zionized US that is a true pariah. Time to sanction the gangster ZUSA regime and make the American citizenry clean the Zionized Augean Stables of the US Congress. Enough of Judeo-Nazi rule already.

  88. annamaria says:
    @meamjojo

    “the politicians funneled much of the money into the MIC and one war after another…”

    – Tell us about amazing breakthroughs in American military science or technology today. Is not F 35 the most expensive aircraft ever?

    How about the human factor? – Are you in the US army, representing one percent of those among the US population, who want to serve? It does not seem that Americans rush to defend the Fatherland – because even the heavily brainwashed and poorly educated Americans have been getting the bitter truth that the US is a gangster state in service to Banksters and the voracious MIC.

    The last 30 years of US history tell monotonously about the US murdering millions upon millions of innocent people and about the US raping and looting in faraway lands.
    As a daughter of a Jewish thief Korbelov has articulated it so clearly, the death of 500.000 Iraqi children “was worth it.”

    One only needs to look at the demented Biden to get an idea that the US is terminally ill. The US Congress exists for the pleasure of the AIPAC (American Israel Public Affairs Committee). The US army lost its honor by becoming Nazified and Zionized.

  89. @frankie p

    Time is on the side of the Chinese.

    LOL no.

  90. gT says:
    @Sean

    Mobilize? Mobilize! Good grief man, this is not WW1. Then those who mobilized the quickest had the advantage. This is not war, this is a “Special Military Operation”, so no need for Russia to mobilize. Even if NATO was to get involved in Ukraine there still won’t be a need to mobilize, a few cruise missiles would send Nato packing to where they came from.

    So in this “Special Military Operation” Russia can take its time. The best of Ukraine’s army is stuck in cauldrons in the East, with no hope of resupply from the West of Ukraine. Ukraine needs tanks and fuel to fight Russia, none of which can travel the few hundred kilometers to the East without getting destroyed by the RuAF in the skies above. All the other fancy weaponry the West is sending to Ukraine won’t make a difference. So all the Russian generals need to do is sit in some hotel and “supervise” the artillery while knocking back the vodka. The Ukies stuck in the cauldrons have next to no armored vehicles or fuel left, so they can’t leave. The artillery will finish them off.

    Its like shooting fish in a barrel for the Russians in the East now, and the barrel is just going to get smaller. Bye bye Ukie fish. As they used to say in the A-Team “I like it when a plan comes together”.

    (hope this comment doesn’t appear twice, had some network issues)

    • Replies: @Ulf Thorsen
  91. gT says:
    @Pop Warner

    You see, even the Germans in 1914 knew the Russians always come back with an unstoppable surge. Except of course during WW1 the Russians were also fighting an internal war instigated by (((those))) in the West. So the surge collapsed into civil war and then Communism. The Germans got lucky during WW1.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  92. @Exile

    Actually, I believe US military also plays substantial role in deciding where and what it will and will not do. Also, when it no longer wants to continue with a war.

  93. @gT

    Though I will not venture a specific time, I think in the not so distant future we will see a mass exodus(bugout) of the Ukranian gov’t in Kyiv. This will come after the complete destruction of what is left of the Ukranian regular forces in the East. I believe a major onslaught by Russia is coming soon and it will be of an intensity that the propaganda sewer pipes in the West will no longer be able to deny it to their public. It will no doubt be ugly and there will be plenty for the West to attempt to hang the “war crimes” canard on, but the outcome will remain the same. I am also of the mind that Putin may be going for more than is realized at the moment. I.E., it will not simply be securing the East and a possible partition of Ukraine. I think when all is said and done, Ukraine will be from one end to the other fully back under Russian control. There is not all that much NATO could do to stop this save for measures that would necessarily lead to nuclear war but that may still be a potential result, who knows. Russia will no doubt in my mind dictate how things go on the ground in any case. The naysayers can scoff if they will but they make the mistake of being lulled into a delirium by the combo of the propaganda tidal wave from Western media sources combined with Russian inscrutability on exactly what they plan, what goals are, and what the end of conflict actually means/looks like. All the fat lazy blowhard retired US generals pontificating nonsense won’t make a scintilla of difference in the end. There are those who also believe the West wants Russia to take Ukraine in order to weaken Russia. A former NATO commander stated such just yesterday.

    • Replies: @Anon
  94. anonymous[303] • Disclaimer says:
    @gT

    The Germans did well against the Russians in WWI. Not so much their Austro-Hungarian allies, especially when Brusilov commanded the Russian armies facing them.

  95. Russia failed to destroy the Zelenski gvt; to destroy it physically right before the outset.
    What ZionLendSki is allowed to do the world over is simply disgusting.
    Russia is “pussyfooting”. It shows its good will and that it wants to be true.
    The Jewish world has only contempt for goodwill and truthfullness.
    It seems to take time for the cosy bear to get up and running.

    https://www.rt.com/russia/553830-kiev-strike-possible/

    https://www.rt.com/russia/553811-nato-weapons-legitimate-targets/

  96. Thanks for a nicely readable piece, young Rolo.
    I didn’t know S.K. Shoigu was unpopular with the top brass … hmm … be a mistake to sack him especially right now … I have lived in countries wherein the Military is popularly and correctly seen as guardians of the national esprit and yeah you can get mostly westerners chafing (very discreetly of course) about that while discussing the cultural merits of Pussy Riot, Picasso “art” and silent piano concerto’s while on the way to the abortion clinic or the gay parade bathhouse.

    OK, I know, having coups every couple of years has its downside, too.
    But a strong patriotic ie nationalist Military is a definite feature to go for.

    Anyway, young Rolo, just inserting these few Fascist notes to irritate the Loony Left/JIDF component and looking forward to your next installment. 😎

    • Replies: @Kurt Knispel
  97. @Arthur MacBride

    Who is Shoigu? Sushi boomer for the cosmopolitans? Kakorcrazy Karrierista? “Jew”?
    I don’t know. In his time Russia mastered hypersonics, because of him or despite oh him?

    [MORE]

    https://avatars.mds.yandex.net/get-images-cbir/1978384/QNHvd6YwzTMZjIPClPAyMw7258/ocr
    “SHOIGU UYGUR – JU NAGA R – JEWISH. ACCORDING TO JEWISH GEOGRAPHY CENTRAL ASIAN. the crook commands the armed forces: death to spies. ranks, Duties, and deceit. if anyone thinks that something means something, they are very wrong. THAT’S THE WAY IT IS EVERYWHERE. THE THREAT COMES FROM THE CRYPTO-JEWS. ON THE STREETS ON ALL SIDES.” (transl. deepL)
    Much deeper armor (coming)?!

  98. Anon[667] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    When you say “units that have been literally decimated” are you speaking literally or figuratively?
    And by what means do you have access to Russian casualty figures?

  99. Anon[667] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ulf Thorsen

    My overview would be that those controlling the US from the “Middle East’s Only Democracy” are hoping for and promoting a massive military blowout in the region, as seems to be upcoming. They will not get involved themselves, and thus have ruled out a no-fly zone over Ukraine, but will adopt Stalin’s gameplan, which was to allow Europe to autodestruct before unleashing forces massed on her borders and ready for the unstoppable invasion which was planned for August 1941, had Hitler not pre empted it.
    Following this auto da fe, “US” financiers will enter the region with dollars a plenty, and offer to “help reconstruct” the region – with the proviso of course that the new government installed in Russia will be of the puppet variety.
    And thus, they will advance to China’s borders and turn off the gas supplies which that nation has been lulled into a false sense of security about.
    Net result, of course, being the US return to global superpower status from the hollowed out wreck which it is today, the restoration of its currency as the reserve currency worldwide – and last but not least, the final showdown with China.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  100. annamaria says:
    @Anon

    The Talmudists are planning to squeeze what is left out of the US and then make the US ‘autodestruct’: https://thesaker.is/israel-has-dropped-repeated-hints-at-a-major-strike-on-iranian-nuclear-facilities-in-the-near-future/

    On April 6th Israeli news sources showed Israeli Chief of Staff Lt General Aviv Kochavi addressing a group of NATO air commanders assembled in Israel. Among his remarks he referred to “…preparations for an operation in Iran that is currently undergoing expedited preparatory work.”

    A week before General Kochavi’s speech the US ambassador to Israel, Tom Nides, said on Israeli TV that the US does not expect Tel Aviv to “sit quietly and not do anything” if a new JCPOA deal is struck with Iran. … He added that whether or not an agreement is reached, “Israel can do and take whatever actions they need to take to”

    The searchers for Amalek are ever alert. They cannot stop their genocidal instincts.

    The Zionized Bankers unite with the Zionized MIC to put their bloody boot on the face of humanity. A sample of an ugly Jewish vampire: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_R._Nides

    Tom Nides is an American banker and government official who has been the United States Ambassador to Israel since December 2021. From 2013 to 2021, he was the managing director and vice chairman of Morgan Stanley… Nides was previously appointed the United States Deputy Secretary of State for Management and Resources from 2011 to 2013 during the Barack Obama administration.

    And how the “resources” have been doing? – \$30Trillion debt; the destruction of the formerly prosperous Libya (plus the introduction of slavery there) and endangering of Syrian children with sanctions (after murdering 500.000 Iraqi children) as a part of the US-run Wars for Eretz Israel; the Nuland-Kagan run regime change in Kiev, which is leading humanity to a hot WWIII. Jewish practitioners of genocide have got a free reign in the rotten zionized US.

  101. Marcali says:
    @Thirdtwin

    I do not understand the reason for your inequality.

  102. meamjojo says:
    @Mario Partisan

    If I recall correctly, you are strongly opposed to the lockdown policies imposed by western regimes on their citizens.

    If I may ask, why are you so anti-Russia? What is the root of your sympathy for the Kiev government?

    Huh? What does the first have to do with the second?

    I’m anti-Russian because they invaded another sovereign, independent country and have caused grievous harms on the people and country that are far out of proportion to any harms that Ukraine may have imposed on Russia in the past.

    Shouldn’t be difficult to understand unless you are thick as a brick.

    • Replies: @Mario Partisan
  103. @meamjojo

    Are you anti-American as well?

  104. Glory to Russia! Glory to Sasha from Masha:

    (viewing 2:58; see in particular from 1:06”)

    The whole Orthodox World is hoping and has her heart set on Russia succeeding.

    Bulgaria, Greece, Cyprus, Serbia…Russia liberated those countries and they remember as long as fake Turkey exists (at and within their borders).

    (The Jewnighted States of Israhell have imported over 10 mio. Turks into the remnants of Germany. Right now they are extending massively their military settlements in Germany to terrorise and fight Russia).

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