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Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton in the third presidential debate in 2016, during which Clinton called Trump Vladimir Putin’s “puppet.
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Special Report: In the Watergate era, liberals warned about U.S. intelligence agencies manipulating U.S. politics, but now Trump-hatred has blinded many of them to this danger becoming real, as ex-CIA analyst Ray McGovern notes.

Russia-gate is becoming FBI-gate, thanks to the official release of unguarded text messages between loose-lipped FBI counterintelligence official Peter Strzok and his garrulous girlfriend, FBI lawyer Lisa Page. (Ten illustrative texts from their exchange appear at the end of this article.)

Despite his former job as chief of the FBI’s counterintelligence section, Strzok had the naive notion that texting on FBI phones could not be traced. Strzok must have slept through “Surity 101.” Or perhaps he was busy texting during that class. Girlfriend Page cannot be happy at being misled by his assurance that using office phones would be a secure way to conduct their affair(s).

It would have been unfortunate enough for Strzok and Page to have their adolescent-sounding texts merely exposed, revealing the reckless abandon of star-crossed lovers hiding (they thought) secrets from cuckolded spouses, office colleagues, and the rest of us. However, for the never-Trump plotters in the FBI, the official release of just a fraction (375) of almost 10,000 messages does incalculably more damage than that.

We suddenly have documentary proof that key elements of the U.S. intelligence community were trying to short-circuit the U.S. democratic process. And that puts in a new and dark context the year-long promotion of Russia-gate. It now appears that it was not the Russians trying to rig the outcome of the U.S. election, but leading officials of the U.S. intelligence community, shadowy characters sometimes called the Deep State.

More of the Strzok-Page texting dialogue is expected to be released. And the Department of Justice Inspector General reportedly has additional damaging texts from others on the team that Special Counsel Robert Mueller selected to help him investigate Russia-gate.

Besides forcing the removal of Strzok and Page, the text exposures also sounded the death knell for the career of FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, in whose office some of the plotting took place and who has already announced his plans to retire soon.

But the main casualty is the FBI’s 18-month campaign to sabotage candidate-and-now-President Donald Trump by using the Obama administration’s Russia-gate intelligence “assessment,” electronic surveillance of dubious legality, and a salacious dossier that could never pass the smell test, while at the same time using equally dubious techniques to immunize Hillary Clinton and her closest advisers from crimes that include lying to the FBI and endangering secrets.

Ironically, the Strzok-Page texts provide something that the Russia-gate investigation has been sorely lacking: first-hand evidence of both corrupt intent and action. After months of breathless searching for “evidence” of Russian-Trump collusion designed to put Trump in the White House, what now exists is actual evidence that senior officials of the Obama administration colluded to keep Trump out of the White House – proof of what old-time gumshoes used to call “means, motive and opportunity.”

Even more unfortunately for Russia-gate enthusiasts, the FBI lovers’ correspondence provides factual evidence exposing much of the made-up “Resistance” narrative – the contrived storyline that The New York Times and much of the rest of the U.S. mainstream media deemed fit to print with little skepticism and few if any caveats, a scenario about brilliantly devious Russians that not only lacks actual evidence – relying on unverified hearsay and rumor – but doesn’t make sense on its face.

The Russia-gate narrative always hinged on the preposterous notion that Russian President Vladimir Putin foresaw years ago what no American political analyst considered even possible, the political ascendancy of Donald Trump. According to the narrative, the fortune-telling Putin then risked creating even worse tensions with a nuclear-armed America that would – by all odds – have been led by a vengeful President Hillary Clinton.

Besides this wildly improbable storyline, there were flat denials from WikiLeaks, which distributed the supposedly “hacked” Democratic emails, that the information came from Russia – and there was the curious inability of the National Security Agency to use its immense powers to supply any technical evidence to support the Russia-hack scenario.

The Trump Shock

But the shock of Trump’s election and the decision of many never-Trumpers to cast their lot with the Resistance led to a situation in which any prudent skepticism or demand for evidence was swept aside.

President Donald Trump delivering his inaugural address on Jan. 20, 2017. (Screen shot from Whitehouse.gov)
President Donald Trump delivering his inaugural address on Jan. 20, 2017. (Screen shot from Whitehouse.gov)

So, on Jan. 6, 2017, President Obama’s Director of National Intelligence James Clapper released an evidence-free report that he said was compiled by “hand-picked” analysts from the CIA, FBI and NSA, offering an “assessment” that Russia and President Putin were behind the release of the Democratic emails in a plot to help Trump win the presidency.

Despite the extraordinary gravity of the charge, even New York Times correspondent Scott Shane noted that proof was lacking. He wrote at the time: “What is missing from the [the Jan. 6] public report is what many Americans most eagerly anticipated: hard evidence to back up the agencies’ claims that the Russian government engineered the election attack. … Instead, the message from the agencies essentially amounts to ‘trust us.’”

But the “assessment” served a useful purpose for the never-Trumpers: it applied an official imprimatur on the case for delegitimizing Trump’s election and even raised the long-shot hope that the Electoral College might reverse the outcome and possibly install a compromise candidate, such as former Secretary of State Colin Powell, in the White House. Though the Powell ploy fizzled, the hope of somehow removing Trump from office continued to bubble, fueled by the growing hysteria around Russia-gate.

Virtually all skepticism about the evidence-free “assessment” was banned. For months, the Times and other newspapers of record repeated the lie that all 17 U.S. intelligence agencies had concurred in the conclusion about the Russian “hack.” Even when that falsehood was belatedly acknowledged, the major news outlets just shifted the phrasing slightly to say that U.S. intelligence agencies had reached the Russian “hack” conclusion. Shane’s blunt initial recognition about the lack of proof disappeared from the mainstream media’s approved narrative of Russia-gate.

Doubts about the Russian “hack” or dissident suggestions that what we were witnessing was a “soft coup” were scoffed at by leading media commentators. Other warnings from veteran U.S. intelligence professionals about the weaknesses of the Russia-gate narrative and the danger of letting politicized intelligence overturn a constitutional election were also brushed aside in pursuit of the goal of removing Trump from the White House.

It didn’t even seem to matter when new Russia-gate disclosures conflicted with the original narrative that Putin had somehow set Trump up as a Manchurian candidate. All normal journalistic skepticism was jettisoned. It was as if the Russia-gate advocates started with the conclusion that Trump must go and then made the facts fit into that mold, but anyone who noted the violations of normal investigative procedures was dismissed as a “Trump enabler” or a “Moscow stooge.”

The Text Evidence

But then came the FBI text messages, providing documentary evivdence that key FBI officials involved in the Russia-gate investigation were indeed deeply biased and out to get Trump, adding hard proof to Trump’s longstanding lament that he was the subject of a “witch hunt.”

Peter Strzok, who served as a Deputy Assistant Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, second in command of counterintelligence.
Peter Strzok, who served as a Deputy Assistant Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, second in command of counterintelligence.

Justified or not, Trump’s feeling of vindication could hardly be more dangerous — particularly at a time when the most urgent need is to drain some testosterone from the self-styled Stable-Genius-in-Chief and his martinet generals.

On the home front, Trump, his wealthy friends, and like-thinkers in Congress may now feel they have an even wider carte blanche to visit untold misery on the poor, the widow, the stranger and other vulnerable humans. That was always an underlying danger of the Resistance’s strategy to seize on whatever weapons were available – no matter how reckless or unfair – to “get Trump.”

Beyond that, Russia-gate has become so central to the Washington establishment’s storyline that there appears to be no room for second-thoughts or turning back. The momentum is such that some Democrats and the media never-Trumpers can’t stop stoking the smoke of Russia-gate and holding out hope against hope that it will somehow justify Trump’s impeachment.

Yet, the sordid process of using legal/investigative means to settle political scores further compromises the principle of the “rule of law” and integrity of journalism in the eyes of many Americans. After a year of Russia-gate, the “rule of law” and “pursuit of truth” appear to have been reduced to high-falutin’ phrases for political score-setttling, a process besmirched by Republicans in earlier pursuits of Democrats and now appearing to be a bipartisan method for punishing political rivals regardless of the lack of evidence.

Strzok and Page

Peter Strzok (pronounced “struck”) has an interesting pedigree with multiple tasks regarding both Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Trump. As the FBI’s chief of counterespionage during the investigation into then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s unauthorized use of a personal email server for classified information, Strzok reportedly changed the words “grossly negligent” (which could have triggered legal prosecution) to the far less serious “extremely careless” in FBI Director James Comey’s depiction of Clinton’s actions. This semantic shift cleared the way for Comey to conclude just 20 days before the Democratic National Convention began in July 2016, that “no reasonable prosecutor” would bring charges against Mrs. Clinton.

Then, as Deputy Assistant Director of the Counterintelligence Division, Strzok led the FBI’s investigation into alleged Russian interference in the U.S. election of 2016. It is a safe bet that he took a strong hand in hand-picking the FBI contingent of analysts that joined “hand-picked” counterparts from CIA and NSA in preparing the evidence-free, Jan. 6, 2017 assessment accusing Russian President Vladimir Putin of interfering in the election of 2016. (Although accepted in Establishment groupthink as revealed truth, that poor excuse for analysis reflected the apogee of intelligence politicization — rivaled only by the fraudulent intelligence on “weapons of mass destruction“ in Iraq 15 years ago.)

In June and July 2017 Strzok was the top FBI official working on Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into possible links between the Trump campaign and Russia, but was taken off that job when the Justice Department IG learned of the Strzok-Page text-message exchange and told Mueller.

There is no little irony in the fact that what did in the FBI sweathearts was their visceral disdain for Mr. Trump, their cheerleading-cum-kid-gloves treatment of Mrs. Clinton and her associates, their 1950-ish, James Clapperesque attitude toward Russians as “almost genetically driven” to evil, and their (Strzok/Page) elitist conviction that they know far better what is good for the country than regular American citizens, including those “deplorables” whom Clinton said made up half of Trump’s supporters.

But Strzok/Page had no idea that their hubris, elitism and scheming would be revealed in so tangible a way. Worst of all for them, the very thing that Strzok, in particular, worked so hard to achieve — the sabotaging of Trump and immunization of Mrs. Clinton and her closest advisers is now coming apart at the seams.

Congress: Oversee? or Overlook?

At this point, the $64 question is whether the various congressional oversight committees will remain ensconced in their customarily cozy role as “overlook” committees, or whether they will have the courage to attempt to carry out their Constitutional duty. The latter course would mean confronting a powerful Deep State and its large toolbox of well-practiced retaliatory techniques, including J. Edgar Hoover-style blackmail on steroids, enabled by electronic surveillance of just about everything and everyone. Yes, today’s technology permits blanket collection, and “Collect Everything” has become the motto.

Former FBI Director Robert Mueller.
Former FBI Director Robert Mueller.

Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-New York, with almost four decades of membership in the House and Senate, openly warned incoming President Trump in January 2017 against criticizing the U.S. intelligence community because U.S. intelligence officials have “six ways from Sunday to get back at you” if you are “dumb” enough to take them on.

Thanks to the almost 10,000 text messages between Strzok and Page, only a small fraction of which were given to Congress four weeks ago, there is now real evidentiary meat on the bones of the suspicions that there indeed was a “deep-state coup” to “correct” the outcome of the 2016 election. We now know that the supposedly apolitical FBI officials had huge political axes to grind. The Strzok-Page exchanges drip with disdain for Trump and those deemed his smelly deplorable supporters. In one text message, Strzok expressed visceral contempt for those working-class Trump voters, writing on Aug. 26, 2016, “Just went to a southern Virginia Walmart. I could SMELL the Trump support. … it’s scary real down here.”

The texts even show Strzok warning of the need for an “insurance policy” to thwart Trump on the off-chance that his poll numbers closed in on those of Mrs. Clinton.

An Aug. 6, 2016 text message, for example, shows Page giving her knight in shining armor strong affirmation: “Maybe you’re meant to stay where you are because you’re meant to protect the country from that menace [Trump].” That text to Strzok includes a link to a David Brooks column in The New York Times, in which Brooks concludes with the clarion call: “There comes a time when neutrality and laying low become dishonorable. If you’re not in revolt, you’re in cahoots. When this period and your name are mentioned, decades hence, your grandkids will look away in shame.”

Another text message shows that other senior government officials – alarmed at the possibility of a Trump presidency – joined the discussion. In an apparent reference to an August 2016 meeting with FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, Strzok wrote to Page on Aug. 15, 2016, “I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy’s office — that there’s no way he [Trump] gets elected — but I’m afraid we can’t take that risk.” Strzok added, “It’s like an insurance policy in the unlikely event that you die before you’re 40.”

Insurance Policy?

Senate Judiciary Committee chair Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, says he will ask Strzok to explain the “insurance policy” when he calls him to testify. What seems already clear is that the celebrated “Steele Dossier” was part of the “insurance,” as was the evidence-less legend that Russia hacked the DNC’s and Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta’s emails and gave them to WikiLeaks.

If congressional investigators have been paying attention, they already know what former weapons inspector Scott Ritter shared with Veteran intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS) colleagues this week; namely, that Fusion GPS’s Glenn Simpson, who commissioned the Russia dossier using Democratic Party money, said he reached out to Steele after June 17, just three days before Steele’s first report was published, drawing on seven sources.

“There is a snowball’s chance in hell that this is raw intelligence gathered by Steele; rather he seems to have drawn on a single ‘trusted intermediary’ to gather unsubstantiated rumor already in existence.”

Another VIPS colleague, Phil Giraldi, writing out of his own experience in private sector consulting, added: “The fact that you do not control your sources frequently means that they will feed you what they think you want to hear. Since they are only doing it for money, the more lurid the details the better, as it increases the apparent value of the information. The private security firm in turn, which is also doing it for the money, will pass on the stories and even embroider them to keep the client happy and to encourage him to come back for more. When I read the Steele dossier it looked awfully familiar to me, like the scores of similar reports I had seen which combined bullshit with enough credible information to make the whole product look respectable.”

It is now widely known that the Democrats ponied up the “insurance premiums,” so to speak, for former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele’s “dossier” of lurid — but largely unproven — “intelligence” on Trump and the Russians. If, as many have concluded, the dossier was used to help justify a FISA warrant to snoop on the Trump campaign, those involved will be in deep kimchi, if congressional overseers do their job.

How, you might ask, could Strzok and associates undertake these extra-legal steps with such blithe disregard for the possible consequences should they be caught? The answer is easy; Mrs. Clinton was a shoo-in, remember? This was just extra insurance with no expectation of any “death benefit” ever coming into play — save for Trump’s electoral demise in November 2016. The attitude seemed to be that, if abuse of the FISA law should eventually be discovered — there would be little interest in a serious investigation by the editors of The New York Times and other anti-Trump publications and whatever troubles remained could be handled by President Hillary Clinton.

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-South Carolina, who chairs the Judiciary Subcommittee of Judiciary on Crime and Terrorism, joined Sen. Grassley in signing the letter referring Christopher Steele to the Justice Department to investigate what appear to be false statements about the dossier. In signing, Graham noted the “many stop signs the Department of Justice ignored in its use of the dossier.” The signature of committee ranking member Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-California, however, was missing — an early sign that a highly partisan battle royale is in the offing. On Tuesday, Feinstein unilaterally released a voluminous transcript of Glenn Simpson’s earlier testimony and, as though on cue, Establishment pundits portrayed Steele as a good source and Fusion GPS’s Glenn Simpson as a victim.

The Donnybrook is now underway; the outcome uncertain.

Ray McGovern works with Tell the Word, a publishing arm of the ecumenical Church of the Saviour in inner-city Washington. He was an Army and CIA intelligence analyst for 30 years; prepared and briefed the President’s Daily Brief for Nixon, Ford, and Reagan; and is co-founder of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS).

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Sample text messages between Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, released to Congress and the media on December 13, 2016

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03/04/2016

Strzok – God Hillary should win. 100,000,000-0.

Page – I know

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04/02/2016

Page – So look, you say we text on that phone when we talk about Hillary because it can’t be traced, you were just venting, bc you feel bad that you’re gone so much but that can’t be helped right now.

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07/08/2016

Strzok – And meanwhile, we have Black Lives Matter protestors, right now, chanting “no justice no peace” around DoJ and the White House…

Page – That’s awful.

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07/14/2016

Page – Have you read this? It’s really frightening. For Whites Sensing Decline, Donald Trump Unleashes Words of Resistance http://nyti/ms/ 29WCu5!

Strzok – I have not. But I think it’s clear he’s capturing all the white, poor voters who the mainstream republicans abandoned in all but name in the quest for the almighty $$$

Page – Yeah, it’s not good.

Strzok – Poll Finds Emails Weighing on Hillary Clinton, Now Tied With Donald Trump http://nyti.ms/29RV5gf

Page – It is

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07/26/2016

Strzok – And hey. Congrats on a woman nominated for President in a major party! About damn time! Many many more returns of the day!!

Page – That’s cute. Thanks

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08/06/2016

Page – Jesus. You should read this. And Trump should go f himself. Moment in Convention Glare Shakes Up Khans American Life http://nyti.ms/2aHulE0

Strzok – God that’s a great article. Thanks for sharing. And F TRUMP.

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08/06/2016

Page – And maybe you’re meant to stay where you are because you’re meant to protect the country from that menace. To that end comma, read this:

Page – Trump Enablers Will Finally Have to Take A Stand http://nyti.ms/2aFakry

Strzok – Thanks. It’s absolutely true that we’re both very fortunate. And of course I’ll try and approach it that way. I just know it will be tough at times. I can protect our country at many levels, not sure if that helps

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08/09/2016

Page – He’s not ever going to become president, right? Right?!

Strzok – OMG did you hear what Trump just said?

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08/26/2016

Strzok – Just went to a southern Virginia Walmart. I could SMELL the Trump support…

Page – Yep. Out to lunch with (redacted) We both hate everyone and everything.

Page – Just riffing on the hot mess that is our country.

Strzok – Yeah…it’s scary real down here

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10/20/2016

Strzok: I am riled up. Trump is a f***ing idiot, is unable to provide a coherent answer.

Strzok – I CAN’T PULL AWAY, WHAT THE F**K HAPPENED TO OUR COUNTRY (redacted)??!?!

Page– I don’t know. But we’ll get it back. We’re America. We rock.

Strzok– Donald just said “bad hombres”

Strzok– Trump just said what the FBI did is disgraceful.

END

(Republished from ConsortiumNews.com by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Thanks for the article, Mr. McGovern. I sure wish this could be published where some liberal eyeballs could get a look at it. I would also be interested in your opinion on the strange stuff found in some of the John Podesta emails. Although I can understand why you may not want to swim in those murky waters.

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    Ja! I did see the staff, It did look to me that Scalia was drowned in swimming pool.
    Suspicion there is because autopsy was never done, Water in the lungs would have been discovered for certain.
    But I do think that is too late to do anything about that.
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  2. The world is controlled by Corporate Fascist Military Industrial Intelligence Police States. They will pick the leaders of the world and no one will tell the differently. This FBI scandal goes through all the intelligence agencies and begins with Obama who basically runs the government in his “third term.” This entire election was rigged by Dems starting with the exclusion of Sanders. Unfortunately, for the Dems their plan failed because Hillary was such a terrible candidate. If this is not brought out in the open we will never have a chance of getting a legitimate candidate again.

    As you know Mr. McGovern the police state seldom loses.

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    • Replies: @bluedog
    Well in reality it began with Bush the Stupid and his remark that the Constitution was only a GD piece of paper and promptly tore it up,and as long as we continue to have the best government "money can buy" nothing will change,anymore than it will change under Trump, as he switches from the war on terror to the war on competitors (Russia and China)and world domination and its resources..
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  3. @SunBakedSuburb
    Thanks for the article, Mr. McGovern. I sure wish this could be published where some liberal eyeballs could get a look at it. I would also be interested in your opinion on the strange stuff found in some of the John Podesta emails. Although I can understand why you may not want to swim in those murky waters.

    Ja! I did see the staff, It did look to me that Scalia was drowned in swimming pool.
    Suspicion there is because autopsy was never done, Water in the lungs would have been discovered for certain.
    But I do think that is too late to do anything about that.

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  4. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    An excellent, factual summary. (And, in light of the last two weeks, prescient.) This is true journalism, long gone from the rotten husks of what used to be known as the Press.

    But the passages about Mr. Strzok helping to alter Mr. Comey’s letter picked a scab: Why is there such widespread acceptance of the notion that Mrs. Clinton can not now be charged? I don’t believe that Mr. McGovern shares that notion, other than seeing how immunizing people, etc., makes her prosecution more difficult. But many Americans on each “side” seem to see Mr. Comey’s exercise of what was Mrs. Lynch’s discretion to begin with as the equivalent of a Presidential pardon. In the meantime, applicable statutes of limitation run…

    The more sunlight, the better. But before getting your hopes up about any of this hullabaloo, or expecting any change in how the USG functions, go back and look for those pictures of Mr. Trump golfing with Mr. Clinton, the Clintons at his wedding(s), etc.

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  5. Wally says: • Website

    the author said:

    “On the home front, Trump, his wealthy friends, and like-thinkers in Congress may now feel they have an even wider carte blanche to visit untold misery on the poor, the widow, the stranger and other vulnerable humans.”

    Except that Trump / they have done nothing of the sort. Quite the contrary.

    What they have done is given tax breaks to families, revved up the economy to the point of companies issuing bonuses, increased hiring, and made new & huge investments IN the US.
    The unemployment rate has utterly dropped.

    Assoc. Press Admits: Trump Has Kept Most of His Promises

    https://www.prisonplanet.com/ap-admits-trump-has-kept-most-of-his-promises.html

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    In order to get a tax cut, you need a salary.

    The unemployment rate has utterly dropped.
     
    Get a grip. The "unemployment rate" has been misleading all along, counting only new applicants, ignoring those permanently out of work. Now, many companies are cutting corners by using "contract workers" on a temporary basis. These people aren't even eligible to apply for unemployment when their contract ends.

    As far as new hires, how many of those are part-time and low wage? So a few more executives get bonuses. Whoopee-do.
    , @bluedog
    Keep right on sucking up that kool-aid,the economy has an up-tick because of government spending, which of course will add another $1.7 trillion (per David Stockman Reagan's budget directer) to the debt that you just wished onto your children,g children and their children (ain't you proud/) and lol if you believe those government figures on the unemployment stats than you must believe in the tooth fairy,and of course along with those bonuses comes the lay-offs, a thousand here a thousand there (on the Lay-off list) as the work is out sourced to other countries,meanwhile a few more billion goes to the military/industrial group.Ah yes utopia at last,well while it last that is....
    , @The Alarmist

    "The official unemployment rate has utterly dropped."
     
    There, fixed it for you. But it does appear that some of the circa 90m to 100m who are qualified for the US labour force but not participating in it, and are therefore not reflected in the official unemployment rate, are coming off the sidelines as the economy warms up.

    Think how many more might start working again if the Trump administration were allowed to build the wall and enforce our immigration laws instead of being sidetracked with "fairness" for the DACA kiddies and DREEEEEEMERZ, not to mention the other 25m illegal aliens, who are here taking jobs and welfare benefits away from deserving American poor people.

    #StopTheInvasion
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  6. Compared to the criminal and corrupt US political system, the mafia is an honor society oriented on values. More and more evidence appears that the whole Russian Gate was precooked by the Obama and Clinton mafia together with crooks like Clapper, Brennan, Comey. Lynch and many of the top brass in the FBI and the DoJ. The installment of Bob Mueller who is hugely biased and a Comey body hired only Clinton supporters as his lawyers. But such a team shows how corrupt the US justice system has already become.

    The mainstream media are involved in this witch hunt against Trump from the very beginning. Perhaps some of its bog shots were even paid for fabricated political reporting. The NYT, the Post, CNN, MSNBC and all the other so-called opinion leaders spread fake news and kept the legend of “Russian collusion” going over a year, despite presenting not a single piece of evidence. Their task was to manipulate and brainwash the American public.

    Just listen to this interview. One understands what was and still is going on in this crooked US political system.

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    Excellent video, fantastic, in-depth analysis. Thank you.

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  7. RobinG says:
    @Wally
    the author said:

    "On the home front, Trump, his wealthy friends, and like-thinkers in Congress may now feel they have an even wider carte blanche to visit untold misery on the poor, the widow, the stranger and other vulnerable humans."

    Except that Trump / they have done nothing of the sort. Quite the contrary.

    What they have done is given tax breaks to families, revved up the economy to the point of companies issuing bonuses, increased hiring, and made new & huge investments IN the US.
    The unemployment rate has utterly dropped.

    Assoc. Press Admits: Trump Has Kept Most of His Promises
    https://www.prisonplanet.com/ap-admits-trump-has-kept-most-of-his-promises.html

    In order to get a tax cut, you need a salary.

    The unemployment rate has utterly dropped.

    Get a grip. The “unemployment rate” has been misleading all along, counting only new applicants, ignoring those permanently out of work. Now, many companies are cutting corners by using “contract workers” on a temporary basis. These people aren’t even eligible to apply for unemployment when their contract ends.

    As far as new hires, how many of those are part-time and low wage? So a few more executives get bonuses. Whoopee-do.

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    • Replies: @Wally
    Get serious. lightweight.
    They use the same metrics that Obama used and you had no problem with those. LOL

    And you're wrong again and utterly outgunned. Bonuses are being handed out to regular employees by many of the biggest companies. You're in denial of widely available facts.

    bonus info. here:
    http://www.breitbart.com/search/?s=bonuses#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=bonuses&gsc.page=1
    plummeting unemployment info. here:
    http://www.breitbart.com/search/?s=unemployment#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=unemployment&gsc.page=1
    Trump’s boost to economy can’t be denied
    https://www.prisonplanet.com/in-year-of-chaos-trumps-boost-to-economy-cant-be-denied.html
    Average Family with Children Will Save $2-3K from GOP Tax Cut Bill
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/13/bernie-marcus-lefts-reverse-robin-hood-attack-gop-middle-class-tax-cut-bill-bunk/
    7 Amazing Facts About Trump’s Economy Media Don’t Want You to Know
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/19/nolte-7-facts-trumps-economy-media-dont-want-know/

    , @Wally
    BTW, ca. 50% of US workers pay NO federal taxes.

    Top 20% pay 95% of taxes, middle class 'single digits
    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/omb-top-20-pay-95-of-taxes-middle-class-single-digits/article/2638746
    And food stamp requests have dropped drastically.
    see:
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/10/23/nearly-1-5-million-fewer-americans-food-stamps-trump/
    Like I said, you are outgunned ... and this suits you:
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c2b23f01c561ecf941215052c8d637d0b719a8b18b7fbc0e4401b099d1e0fcf9.jpg?w=600&h=330

    , @Jim Christian

    Now, many companies are cutting corners by using “contract workers” on a temporary basis.
     
    Concur all, but this especially. In the DC area starting with the internet boom and dot.com busts of the late 90s, Indians started coming in and all of a sudden, everyone in IT and computer technologies was being replaced with a contract. After spending years getting certs and continuously upgrading skills and certs, people were ruined with imported contractors. It started at FannyMae and Freddie Mac, the entire board and hierarchy there read like the New Delhi phone book for twenty years now. Between the Chins and Indians, there's been an enormous overclass installed and it's not going anywhere. Someone here recently wrote an article about it but it isn't recent. With the handwriting on the wall so long ago, I gave up chasing Microsoft certs and contracts and went back to analog phone systems and infrastructure and electrical, but I saw a lot of people that tried to follow the professional IT path ruined. Throw in the racial and sexual politics in the offices and the environment is pretty miserable anyway..

    Pretty bad as is, but with AI coming about, whole classes of Democrat folks unconcerned with immigration will be replaced by Bots of all sorts, making the immigration hardships look like Disney World.

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  8. “… thanks to the official release of unguarded text messages between loose-lipped FBI counterintelligence official Peter Strzok and his garrulous girlfriend, FBI lawyer Lisa Page.”

    Despite the efforts to destroy a significant part of the data trail.

    You know, in the good old days, evidence of the affair would be enough for their clearances to be revoked, and use of Government telecomms for such purposes would be grounds for firing.

    Don’t know what Sessions is waiting for, but this bubba would like some red meat already. For that matter, he should have told Mueller where to put his subpeona. Sessions really is an empty suit.

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    Before the red meat hits the grill, the mise-en-place must be properly prepared, the sauces prepped and the ingredients for the gravy set out and readied.
    , @prusmc
    Questions: were Page and Peter both married at the time of the affair? Are they still with their spouses? Is it true that Petwr has a live in girl friend who is a member of the SEC ?
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  9. bluedog says:
    @niteranger
    The world is controlled by Corporate Fascist Military Industrial Intelligence Police States. They will pick the leaders of the world and no one will tell the differently. This FBI scandal goes through all the intelligence agencies and begins with Obama who basically runs the government in his "third term." This entire election was rigged by Dems starting with the exclusion of Sanders. Unfortunately, for the Dems their plan failed because Hillary was such a terrible candidate. If this is not brought out in the open we will never have a chance of getting a legitimate candidate again.

    As you know Mr. McGovern the police state seldom loses.

    Well in reality it began with Bush the Stupid and his remark that the Constitution was only a GD piece of paper and promptly tore it up,and as long as we continue to have the best government “money can buy” nothing will change,anymore than it will change under Trump, as he switches from the war on terror to the war on competitors (Russia and China)and world domination and its resources..

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  10. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    We suddenly have documentary proof that key elements of the U.S. intelligence community were trying to short-circuit the U.S. democratic process.

    Considering all the experience gleaned from 7+ decades of subverting and overthrowing governments around the world, the Deep State thugs must of thought securing the WH for their Killer Queen was a ‘slam dunk.’
    My believe is that Trump actually got around 70% of the vote, a number that overwhelmed their computerized vote fixing.

    All the grief, misery and destruction we’ve visited upon nations around the world is now coming back to haunt Americans.
    Only part missing is the violent overthrow or assassination of a leader and don’t put the Deep State thugs beyond that.

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    Only part missing is the violent overthrow or assassination of a leader and don’t put the Deep State thugs beyond that.
     
    Duh! Want to hear a funny story - a lone gun man waited till his moving target got a hundred yards away from him(instead of shooting his target when it was right in front of him), and beaned his target right in the head, with an old rifle he never practiced with.
    Then , once in custody, he was marched right in front of his assassin to be silenced forever.

    They wouldn’t lie to us, would they?
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  11. Wally says:
    @RobinG
    In order to get a tax cut, you need a salary.

    The unemployment rate has utterly dropped.
     
    Get a grip. The "unemployment rate" has been misleading all along, counting only new applicants, ignoring those permanently out of work. Now, many companies are cutting corners by using "contract workers" on a temporary basis. These people aren't even eligible to apply for unemployment when their contract ends.

    As far as new hires, how many of those are part-time and low wage? So a few more executives get bonuses. Whoopee-do.

    Get serious. lightweight.
    They use the same metrics that Obama used and you had no problem with those. LOL

    And you’re wrong again and utterly outgunned. Bonuses are being handed out to regular employees by many of the biggest companies. You’re in denial of widely available facts.

    bonus info. here:

    http://www.breitbart.com/search/?s=bonuses#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=bonuses&gsc.page=1

    plummeting unemployment info. here:

    http://www.breitbart.com/search/?s=unemployment#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=unemployment&gsc.page=1

    Trump’s boost to economy can’t be denied

    https://www.prisonplanet.com/in-year-of-chaos-trumps-boost-to-economy-cant-be-denied.html

    Average Family with Children Will Save $2-3K from GOP Tax Cut Bill

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/13/bernie-marcus-lefts-reverse-robin-hood-attack-gop-middle-class-tax-cut-bill-bunk/

    7 Amazing Facts About Trump’s Economy Media Don’t Want You to Know

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/19/nolte-7-facts-trumps-economy-media-dont-want-know/

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    Sure they are these companies and corporations are saving millions upon millions due to Trump and the republicans, while throwing a few crumbs to the workers who are suppose to lick their hands,many who only make $10-$11 dollars per hour, and seeing they are bonuses the government will take more than their share, and down the road these same workers will be paying it back in spades,after all someone has to fund the military/industrial racket...
    , @nickels
    I have to agree with RobinG here.
    The moment I heard Trump taking credit for some supposed 'economic recovery', I knew he was a fake.

    Whatever good he may do in some arena's, and despite the fact there was literally no choice but Trump, he obviously knows enough to understand that the economic 'recovery' is nothing but the bloat of a dying, rotting carcass in those moments before it ruptures and the fetid fumes of decay and disease spew out.
    , @Laugh Track
    Wow, I'm impressed. Two Wally posts in a row without harping on the Holocaust and giving the inevitable CODOH links. What's going on?
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  12. fnn says:

    On the home front, Trump, his wealthy friends, and like-thinkers in Congress may now feel they have an even wider carte blanche to visit untold misery on the poor, the widow, the stranger and other vulnerable humans.

    This looks like a disingenuous conflation of Trump (and his handful of presumably more or less dependable allies/minions) with the Ryan-Koch- US Chamber of Commerce GOP establishment. Despite what Jeff Flake says, he’s not a dictator, so he has to make concessions to the donor class-controlled wing of the party. This stuff is so obvious I’m embarrassed as I type it out.

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  13. bluedog says:
    @Wally
    the author said:

    "On the home front, Trump, his wealthy friends, and like-thinkers in Congress may now feel they have an even wider carte blanche to visit untold misery on the poor, the widow, the stranger and other vulnerable humans."

    Except that Trump / they have done nothing of the sort. Quite the contrary.

    What they have done is given tax breaks to families, revved up the economy to the point of companies issuing bonuses, increased hiring, and made new & huge investments IN the US.
    The unemployment rate has utterly dropped.

    Assoc. Press Admits: Trump Has Kept Most of His Promises
    https://www.prisonplanet.com/ap-admits-trump-has-kept-most-of-his-promises.html

    Keep right on sucking up that kool-aid,the economy has an up-tick because of government spending, which of course will add another $1.7 trillion (per David Stockman Reagan’s budget directer) to the debt that you just wished onto your children,g children and their children (ain’t you proud/) and lol if you believe those government figures on the unemployment stats than you must believe in the tooth fairy,and of course along with those bonuses comes the lay-offs, a thousand here a thousand there (on the Lay-off list) as the work is out sourced to other countries,meanwhile a few more billion goes to the military/industrial group.Ah yes utopia at last,well while it last that is….

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    Of course you believed the same sources when they were Obama's.

    Beside that, you're just ranting. I see nothing to back up your nonsense.

    I provided sources / back-up, you just scream like a little Hillary.
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  14. Wally says:
    @RobinG
    In order to get a tax cut, you need a salary.

    The unemployment rate has utterly dropped.
     
    Get a grip. The "unemployment rate" has been misleading all along, counting only new applicants, ignoring those permanently out of work. Now, many companies are cutting corners by using "contract workers" on a temporary basis. These people aren't even eligible to apply for unemployment when their contract ends.

    As far as new hires, how many of those are part-time and low wage? So a few more executives get bonuses. Whoopee-do.

    BTW, ca. 50% of US workers pay NO federal taxes.

    Top 20% pay 95% of taxes, middle class ‘single digits

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/omb-top-20-pay-95-of-taxes-middle-class-single-digits/article/2638746

    And food stamp requests have dropped drastically.
    see:

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/10/23/nearly-1-5-million-fewer-americans-food-stamps-trump/

    Like I said, you are outgunned … and this suits you:

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    BTW, ca. 50% of US workers pay NO federal taxes.
     
    No federal INCOME tax. They pay other taxes.
    , @WorkingClass

    BTW, ca. 50% of US workers pay NO federal taxes.
     
    True. If you are able to pretend that the FICA tax is not a tax.
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  15. n230099 says:

    “It would have been unfortunate enough for Strzok and Page to have their adolescent-sounding texts merely exposed, revealing the reckless abandon of star-crossed lovers hiding (they thought) secrets from cuckolded spouses, office colleagues, and the rest of us.”

    True…One of the first thoughts I had was that these were, at most, highschool level communications. To think this is ‘high level’ government in action is, at once, amusing and disturbing.

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  16. Anonymous • Disclaimer says: • Website

    US Democratic process?. When will Ray McGovern get a clue?

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  17. @Wally
    the author said:

    "On the home front, Trump, his wealthy friends, and like-thinkers in Congress may now feel they have an even wider carte blanche to visit untold misery on the poor, the widow, the stranger and other vulnerable humans."

    Except that Trump / they have done nothing of the sort. Quite the contrary.

    What they have done is given tax breaks to families, revved up the economy to the point of companies issuing bonuses, increased hiring, and made new & huge investments IN the US.
    The unemployment rate has utterly dropped.

    Assoc. Press Admits: Trump Has Kept Most of His Promises
    https://www.prisonplanet.com/ap-admits-trump-has-kept-most-of-his-promises.html

    “The official unemployment rate has utterly dropped.”

    There, fixed it for you. But it does appear that some of the circa 90m to 100m who are qualified for the US labour force but not participating in it, and are therefore not reflected in the official unemployment rate, are coming off the sidelines as the economy warms up.

    Think how many more might start working again if the Trump administration were allowed to build the wall and enforce our immigration laws instead of being sidetracked with “fairness” for the DACA kiddies and DREEEEEEMERZ, not to mention the other 25m illegal aliens, who are here taking jobs and welfare benefits away from deserving American poor people.

    #StopTheInvasion

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    Prove it wrong then.

    I agree, stop the invasion.
    , @Gleongelpi
    Think how many more would be employed if the money Trump wants to spend on a wall went to bridges and roads.
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  18. @RobinG
    In order to get a tax cut, you need a salary.

    The unemployment rate has utterly dropped.
     
    Get a grip. The "unemployment rate" has been misleading all along, counting only new applicants, ignoring those permanently out of work. Now, many companies are cutting corners by using "contract workers" on a temporary basis. These people aren't even eligible to apply for unemployment when their contract ends.

    As far as new hires, how many of those are part-time and low wage? So a few more executives get bonuses. Whoopee-do.

    Now, many companies are cutting corners by using “contract workers” on a temporary basis.

    Concur all, but this especially. In the DC area starting with the internet boom and dot.com busts of the late 90s, Indians started coming in and all of a sudden, everyone in IT and computer technologies was being replaced with a contract. After spending years getting certs and continuously upgrading skills and certs, people were ruined with imported contractors. It started at FannyMae and Freddie Mac, the entire board and hierarchy there read like the New Delhi phone book for twenty years now. Between the Chins and Indians, there’s been an enormous overclass installed and it’s not going anywhere. Someone here recently wrote an article about it but it isn’t recent. With the handwriting on the wall so long ago, I gave up chasing Microsoft certs and contracts and went back to analog phone systems and infrastructure and electrical, but I saw a lot of people that tried to follow the professional IT path ruined. Throw in the racial and sexual politics in the offices and the environment is pretty miserable anyway..

    Pretty bad as is, but with AI coming about, whole classes of Democrat folks unconcerned with immigration will be replaced by Bots of all sorts, making the immigration hardships look like Disney World.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Alternatively, we could pay jokers like yourself $20 per hour to post their thoughts and feelings on the internet. Sure, we know bots could do it better, but we can't let folks rot unless we're evil.

    Immigrants aren't stealing shit, your masters want to see immigrants abused and unemployed just as much as they do native born. It's all about playing people off of each other when the moment and the markets say so. (Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are part of the Pentagon system of finance)

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  19. CK says:
    @The Alarmist

    "... thanks to the official release of unguarded text messages between loose-lipped FBI counterintelligence official Peter Strzok and his garrulous girlfriend, FBI lawyer Lisa Page."
     
    Despite the efforts to destroy a significant part of the data trail.

    You know, in the good old days, evidence of the affair would be enough for their clearances to be revoked, and use of Government telecomms for such purposes would be grounds for firing.

    Don't know what Sessions is waiting for, but this bubba would like some red meat already. For that matter, he should have told Mueller where to put his subpeona. Sessions really is an empty suit.

    Before the red meat hits the grill, the mise-en-place must be properly prepared, the sauces prepped and the ingredients for the gravy set out and readied.

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    I want mine raw ... don't need no stinking sauces!

    I once went to Daniel's Steakhouse in Sydney, and when I told the waiter that good Australian beef doesn't need sauce, you would have thought I had flipped him off. Then again, when my colleagues asked what I thought about Bondi beach, I made the mistake of being honest and saying it was actually rather small (It really is something like a half mile long). After the apoplectic fit wound down, they asked about the Bridge, and I found my inner diplomat and told them it was beautiful. Ah, Australia! California, but with fewer drive-by shootings.
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  20. “Strzok reportedly changed the words “grossly negligent” (which could have triggered legal prosecution) to the far less serious “extremely careless” in FBI Director James Comey’s depiction of Clinton’s actions. This semantic shift cleared the way for Comey to conclude just 20 days before the Democratic National Convention began in July 2016, that “no reasonable prosecutor” would bring charges against Mrs. Clinton.”

    It’s a thin line between “gross negligence” and “extreme carelessness.” While “gross negligence” usually involves unintentional acts, they can border on intentional conduct by the very recklessness of the activity. A senior government moving vast amounts of classified data on unsecured networks can’t begin to assert she didn’t know the risks she was taking. Semantics here are irrelevant: The substance of the law is that HRC was grossly negligent.

    As a seasoned lawyer, Comey would know that a prosecutor could very reasonably equate the two and charge on a violation of 18 USC 793 (Gathering, transmitting, or losing defense information) There are a couple paragraphs that could be applied, but (f) looks most likely. The mere act of storing classified data on a personal server could also be a violation of 18 USC 798 (Disclosure of classified information). Destroying the same data might also be charged as violations of the 2009 Federal Records Act, and there is plenty of reason to pursue the limb of Obtruction of Justice in light of the other serious charges that could reasonably be made.

    In order to be credible, justice must be seen to be done. The longer Sessions and Trump let this charade go uninvestigated for fear that investigating it looks overtly political, the more political it actually becomes, and the less credible the rule of law in America becomes (“Laws and regulations are for the little people!)

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    What that woman did would have gotten any other government official fired with loss of pension, not to mention jail time!
    , @Twodees Partain
    "It’s a thin line between “gross negligence” and “extreme carelessness.” "

    Not in the context of legal language. In fact, it's a great divide. "Extremely careless" is not a federal criminal charge, while "gross negligence" actually is. Never mind about the difference in degree when speaking of the two terms, one is a crime, and the other is merely grounds for an investigation.
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  21. prusmc says:
    @The Alarmist

    "... thanks to the official release of unguarded text messages between loose-lipped FBI counterintelligence official Peter Strzok and his garrulous girlfriend, FBI lawyer Lisa Page."
     
    Despite the efforts to destroy a significant part of the data trail.

    You know, in the good old days, evidence of the affair would be enough for their clearances to be revoked, and use of Government telecomms for such purposes would be grounds for firing.

    Don't know what Sessions is waiting for, but this bubba would like some red meat already. For that matter, he should have told Mueller where to put his subpeona. Sessions really is an empty suit.

    Questions: were Page and Peter both married at the time of the affair? Are they still with their spouses? Is it true that Petwr has a live in girl friend who is a member of the SEC ?

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  22. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The deep state coup was the appointment of Trump or it could have been Clinton. You have no choice when you vote. The work of retired spooks like McGovern is to convince you that you live in a Democracy where voting matters. There’s no evidence that voting serves anyone other than appearances for the ruling elite.

    The FBI is an inherently politicial organization. I would expect the FBI to tweet things like ” that motherfucker is goin’ down” or “fuck her” or “Orange son of a bitch, let’s make some noise” or more racist “those nigger motherfuckers in the city” or “think you’re anonymous on the internet lil’boy?” Those would be the tweets of the FBI that we all know and love.

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  23. The FBI and all of the 17 so called intelligence agencies are nothing but the CHEKA and or GESTAPO ie Chain Dogs for the Zionist dual citizen neocons who are the deep state and are working for Israel to destroy America.

    This was proven by the fact that Israel and the Zionist deep state did 911 and got away with it, and every thinking American knows it, that is control in spades, and not only did the Zionists do 911 but they did it in our faces to rub it in , these arrogant bastards.

    America is an Israeli plantation and we goyim are the slaves for the greater Israeli NWO plan.

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  24. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Jim Christian

    Now, many companies are cutting corners by using “contract workers” on a temporary basis.
     
    Concur all, but this especially. In the DC area starting with the internet boom and dot.com busts of the late 90s, Indians started coming in and all of a sudden, everyone in IT and computer technologies was being replaced with a contract. After spending years getting certs and continuously upgrading skills and certs, people were ruined with imported contractors. It started at FannyMae and Freddie Mac, the entire board and hierarchy there read like the New Delhi phone book for twenty years now. Between the Chins and Indians, there's been an enormous overclass installed and it's not going anywhere. Someone here recently wrote an article about it but it isn't recent. With the handwriting on the wall so long ago, I gave up chasing Microsoft certs and contracts and went back to analog phone systems and infrastructure and electrical, but I saw a lot of people that tried to follow the professional IT path ruined. Throw in the racial and sexual politics in the offices and the environment is pretty miserable anyway..

    Pretty bad as is, but with AI coming about, whole classes of Democrat folks unconcerned with immigration will be replaced by Bots of all sorts, making the immigration hardships look like Disney World.

    Alternatively, we could pay jokers like yourself $20 per hour to post their thoughts and feelings on the internet. Sure, we know bots could do it better, but we can’t let folks rot unless we’re evil.

    Immigrants aren’t stealing shit, your masters want to see immigrants abused and unemployed just as much as they do native born. It’s all about playing people off of each other when the moment and the markets say so. (Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are part of the Pentagon system of finance)

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    Immigrants aren’t stealing shit, your masters want to see immigrants abused and unemployed just as much as they do native born
     
    Your Jewish masters, who don't play well with others in Israel, who jail Blacks from Africa for the crime of not leaving, who build walls, who accept no refugees from the wars they start and encourage, who do pay jokers like you at the Times and Post to write their strategy would love to guilt us. Doesn't work. These folks are mere economic immigrants, coming in on chain immigration and spawn-dropping. Stay home and fix your own countries and fuck off from mine, leeches.

    Or, alternatively, move to the friendly environs of Israel. See how Israel, who thinks immigration and race mixing is good for everyone but them, will treat the darks, the yellows, the browns from Mexico. If it's good for the United States, why not Israel? Should Mexico not take from Africans? Japan? China? Malaysia? If Africans are good and everything started in Africa, shouldn't the world all accept more, shouldn't everyone have some?

    When Israel puts the pressure on China to accept some Africans, some Hatians, some Mexicans, and accepts some for their very own, I'll listen.
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  25. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    This interference into a presidential election by an agency such as the FBI raises the question of whether there’s been manipulation of other previous elections. Were some of our previous presidents installed through machinations of an intelligence agency?

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  26. @CK
    Before the red meat hits the grill, the mise-en-place must be properly prepared, the sauces prepped and the ingredients for the gravy set out and readied.

    I want mine raw … don’t need no stinking sauces!

    I once went to Daniel’s Steakhouse in Sydney, and when I told the waiter that good Australian beef doesn’t need sauce, you would have thought I had flipped him off. Then again, when my colleagues asked what I thought about Bondi beach, I made the mistake of being honest and saying it was actually rather small (It really is something like a half mile long). After the apoplectic fit wound down, they asked about the Bridge, and I found my inner diplomat and told them it was beautiful. Ah, Australia! California, but with fewer drive-by shootings.

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  27. @Anonymous
    Alternatively, we could pay jokers like yourself $20 per hour to post their thoughts and feelings on the internet. Sure, we know bots could do it better, but we can't let folks rot unless we're evil.

    Immigrants aren't stealing shit, your masters want to see immigrants abused and unemployed just as much as they do native born. It's all about playing people off of each other when the moment and the markets say so. (Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are part of the Pentagon system of finance)

    Immigrants aren’t stealing shit, your masters want to see immigrants abused and unemployed just as much as they do native born

    Your Jewish masters, who don’t play well with others in Israel, who jail Blacks from Africa for the crime of not leaving, who build walls, who accept no refugees from the wars they start and encourage, who do pay jokers like you at the Times and Post to write their strategy would love to guilt us. Doesn’t work. These folks are mere economic immigrants, coming in on chain immigration and spawn-dropping. Stay home and fix your own countries and fuck off from mine, leeches.

    Or, alternatively, move to the friendly environs of Israel. See how Israel, who thinks immigration and race mixing is good for everyone but them, will treat the darks, the yellows, the browns from Mexico. If it’s good for the United States, why not Israel? Should Mexico not take from Africans? Japan? China? Malaysia? If Africans are good and everything started in Africa, shouldn’t the world all accept more, shouldn’t everyone have some?

    When Israel puts the pressure on China to accept some Africans, some Hatians, some Mexicans, and accepts some for their very own, I’ll listen.

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    Settle down Johnny. Israel isn’t the man fucking you in the ass.
    , @Twodees Partain
    I would settle for Israel just taking in the refugees from the countries where Israeli interests demanded war. It makes no sense at all for any other country to have to take in the refugees from Israel's wars especially since they have to be shipped them to another continent.

    Naturally, though, the ones being shipped to Europe and North America aren't actually refugees, they are military age men who are invading those two continents so that there is an army of them in place for the time when the Zionists decide to launch them at the Christian populations they are targeting.

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  28. bluedog says:
    @Wally
    Get serious. lightweight.
    They use the same metrics that Obama used and you had no problem with those. LOL

    And you're wrong again and utterly outgunned. Bonuses are being handed out to regular employees by many of the biggest companies. You're in denial of widely available facts.

    bonus info. here:
    http://www.breitbart.com/search/?s=bonuses#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=bonuses&gsc.page=1
    plummeting unemployment info. here:
    http://www.breitbart.com/search/?s=unemployment#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=unemployment&gsc.page=1
    Trump’s boost to economy can’t be denied
    https://www.prisonplanet.com/in-year-of-chaos-trumps-boost-to-economy-cant-be-denied.html
    Average Family with Children Will Save $2-3K from GOP Tax Cut Bill
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/13/bernie-marcus-lefts-reverse-robin-hood-attack-gop-middle-class-tax-cut-bill-bunk/
    7 Amazing Facts About Trump’s Economy Media Don’t Want You to Know
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/19/nolte-7-facts-trumps-economy-media-dont-want-know/

    Sure they are these companies and corporations are saving millions upon millions due to Trump and the republicans, while throwing a few crumbs to the workers who are suppose to lick their hands,many who only make $10-$11 dollars per hour, and seeing they are bonuses the government will take more than their share, and down the road these same workers will be paying it back in spades,after all someone has to fund the military/industrial racket…

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    Please stop ranting. You're just making stuff up as you go.

    However, I do not support the MIComplex, they are a problem, That was in place long before Trump, however.
    After just one year Trump has done amazing domestic work, especially given the racist hostility to him.

    I also notice that you dodged my references.

    a "few crumbs" per family:

    Average Family with Children Will Save $2-3K from GOP Tax Cut Bill
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/13/bernie-marcus-lefts-reverse-robin-hood-attack-gop-middle-class-tax-cut-bill-bunk/ "According to the official numbers (same sources that Obama used), the economy is growing moderately well, compared with the weak growth during the Obama administration. The gross domestic product expanded at an annual rate of 3.3 percent in the third quarter in 2017. That followed the second quarter’s 3.1 percent."

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  29. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Wally
    BTW, ca. 50% of US workers pay NO federal taxes.

    Top 20% pay 95% of taxes, middle class 'single digits
    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/omb-top-20-pay-95-of-taxes-middle-class-single-digits/article/2638746
    And food stamp requests have dropped drastically.
    see:
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/10/23/nearly-1-5-million-fewer-americans-food-stamps-trump/
    Like I said, you are outgunned ... and this suits you:
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c2b23f01c561ecf941215052c8d637d0b719a8b18b7fbc0e4401b099d1e0fcf9.jpg?w=600&h=330

    BTW, ca. 50% of US workers pay NO federal taxes.

    No federal INCOME tax. They pay other taxes.

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    So what?

    You're dodging.
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  30. nickels says:
    @Wally
    Get serious. lightweight.
    They use the same metrics that Obama used and you had no problem with those. LOL

    And you're wrong again and utterly outgunned. Bonuses are being handed out to regular employees by many of the biggest companies. You're in denial of widely available facts.

    bonus info. here:
    http://www.breitbart.com/search/?s=bonuses#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=bonuses&gsc.page=1
    plummeting unemployment info. here:
    http://www.breitbart.com/search/?s=unemployment#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=unemployment&gsc.page=1
    Trump’s boost to economy can’t be denied
    https://www.prisonplanet.com/in-year-of-chaos-trumps-boost-to-economy-cant-be-denied.html
    Average Family with Children Will Save $2-3K from GOP Tax Cut Bill
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/13/bernie-marcus-lefts-reverse-robin-hood-attack-gop-middle-class-tax-cut-bill-bunk/
    7 Amazing Facts About Trump’s Economy Media Don’t Want You to Know
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/19/nolte-7-facts-trumps-economy-media-dont-want-know/

    I have to agree with RobinG here.
    The moment I heard Trump taking credit for some supposed ‘economic recovery’, I knew he was a fake.

    Whatever good he may do in some arena’s, and despite the fact there was literally no choice but Trump, he obviously knows enough to understand that the economic ‘recovery’ is nothing but the bloat of a dying, rotting carcass in those moments before it ruptures and the fetid fumes of decay and disease spew out.

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    • Replies: @Wally
    Really?

    Is that why you dodged my references?

    Have another:
    European Populist Leaders Praise Trump, Call For End Of EU
    http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/17/european-populist-leaders-praise-trump-call-for-end-of-eu/

    and another:
    Trump's Momentous First Year
    http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/12/trumps_momentous_first_year.html

    , @Twodees Partain
    What's ironic about it is that, by taking credit for any uptick in fake government numbers, he's setting himself up to take the blame when the inevitable crash comes. You'd think that a stable genius would have taken that into consideration before raising his trumpet to his lips.
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  31. Anonymous • Disclaimer says: • Website

    Trump needs to be impeached. The entire Government is a bad bit of fiction, why not use the symbolic figure head of empire to generate excitement in the mass of American sheep?

    To that end, throw up any accusation that will stick, make it sound like a Constitutional crisis but simple enough for the average begrudged redneck to understand.

    The FBI has an agenda, what part of the Government doesn’t? The whole point of elections is to have different groups employ every tactic under the sun to manipulate said sheep. Let’s get the impeachment show started.

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  32. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Jim Christian

    Immigrants aren’t stealing shit, your masters want to see immigrants abused and unemployed just as much as they do native born
     
    Your Jewish masters, who don't play well with others in Israel, who jail Blacks from Africa for the crime of not leaving, who build walls, who accept no refugees from the wars they start and encourage, who do pay jokers like you at the Times and Post to write their strategy would love to guilt us. Doesn't work. These folks are mere economic immigrants, coming in on chain immigration and spawn-dropping. Stay home and fix your own countries and fuck off from mine, leeches.

    Or, alternatively, move to the friendly environs of Israel. See how Israel, who thinks immigration and race mixing is good for everyone but them, will treat the darks, the yellows, the browns from Mexico. If it's good for the United States, why not Israel? Should Mexico not take from Africans? Japan? China? Malaysia? If Africans are good and everything started in Africa, shouldn't the world all accept more, shouldn't everyone have some?

    When Israel puts the pressure on China to accept some Africans, some Hatians, some Mexicans, and accepts some for their very own, I'll listen.

    Settle down Johnny. Israel isn’t the man fucking you in the ass.

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    Settle down Johnny. Israel isn’t the man fucking you in the ass.
     
    No, not me personally. However, Israeli-First Harvey Weinstein liked HIS anal-rape victims specifically non-Jewish. He's not unique.
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  33. Altai says:

    This whole affair also totally destroys the G-Man mythos. From the outside Strzok looks the part. Yet both he and Page write texts like they’re particularly dim 20 year old girls.

    Strzok – God Hillary should win. 100,000,000-0.

    Page– I don’t know. But we’ll get it back. We’re America. We rock.

    Page – He’s not ever going to become president, right? Right?!

    Strzok – OMG did you hear what Trump just said?

    Page – Yep. Out to lunch with (redacted) We both hate everyone and everything.

    Page – Just riffing on the hot mess that is our country.

    Strzok– Donald just said “bad hombres”

    This is the level of discourse (Of course this could just be a biased sample to humiliate Strzok but leave the really bad conspiring out of frame) he has with his mistress on an FBI phone as he plans dirty tricks on his own country?

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  34. peterike says:

    On the home front, Trump, his wealthy friends, and like-thinkers in Congress may now feel they have an even wider carte blanche to visit untold misery on the poor, the widow, the stranger and other vulnerable humans.

    Ok Ray, we all saw your little bit of virtue signalling there. But I mean…. the widow? Seriously? What is this, 1930? Oh and as for “the stranger,” he can go to hell.

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    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
    Peter, those were references to Christ's mention of the objects of Christian charity. If you're not a Christian, maybe that's how you mistook that sentence for "virtue signalling".
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  35. Settle down Johnny. Israel isn’t the man fucking you in the ass.

    Oh, but he is. All of us. But why bother counting the ways to Israel’s tool? You already know.

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  36. @Wally
    BTW, ca. 50% of US workers pay NO federal taxes.

    Top 20% pay 95% of taxes, middle class 'single digits
    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/omb-top-20-pay-95-of-taxes-middle-class-single-digits/article/2638746
    And food stamp requests have dropped drastically.
    see:
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/10/23/nearly-1-5-million-fewer-americans-food-stamps-trump/
    Like I said, you are outgunned ... and this suits you:
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c2b23f01c561ecf941215052c8d637d0b719a8b18b7fbc0e4401b099d1e0fcf9.jpg?w=600&h=330

    BTW, ca. 50% of US workers pay NO federal taxes.

    True. If you are able to pretend that the FICA tax is not a tax.

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    • Replies: @Wally
    said:
    "True. If you are able to pretend that the FICA tax is not a tax."

    If you are able to pretend people do not want Social Security & Medicare, then please do so.
    That should be entertaining.

    And it's those low earning, non-taxed workers who will take much more out of SS & MC then they ever pay in.

    Better luck next time.
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  37. Wally says:
    @bluedog
    Keep right on sucking up that kool-aid,the economy has an up-tick because of government spending, which of course will add another $1.7 trillion (per David Stockman Reagan's budget directer) to the debt that you just wished onto your children,g children and their children (ain't you proud/) and lol if you believe those government figures on the unemployment stats than you must believe in the tooth fairy,and of course along with those bonuses comes the lay-offs, a thousand here a thousand there (on the Lay-off list) as the work is out sourced to other countries,meanwhile a few more billion goes to the military/industrial group.Ah yes utopia at last,well while it last that is....

    Of course you believed the same sources when they were Obama’s.

    Beside that, you’re just ranting. I see nothing to back up your nonsense.

    I provided sources / back-up, you just scream like a little Hillary.

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    No your not, your putting forth little but MSN street news or quoting government sources which of course is little more then government propaganda,Disney is handing out $1,000 dollars bonuses while saving millions upon millions due to Trumps tax change (which saved him a few million dollars) while paying their workers $11.00 per hour and Wal-Mart is no better laying off a thousand while crowing that they are going to raise wages up to $11.00 per hour,ITT handed out bonuses and the next day announced that they were laying off a thousand and outsourcing part of the work to India.Now I don't presume your ignorant so do some reading for a change,David Stockman has a very good artical on Zero Hedge I suggest that you read it...
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  38. Wally says:
    @WorkingClass

    BTW, ca. 50% of US workers pay NO federal taxes.
     
    True. If you are able to pretend that the FICA tax is not a tax.

    said:
    “True. If you are able to pretend that the FICA tax is not a tax.”

    If you are able to pretend people do not want Social Security & Medicare, then please do so.
    That should be entertaining.

    And it’s those low earning, non-taxed workers who will take much more out of SS & MC then they ever pay in.

    Better luck next time.

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    • Replies: @WorkingClass
    But is FICA a tax or not? Yes or no. Good luck Wally.
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  39. Wally says:
    @anon

    BTW, ca. 50% of US workers pay NO federal taxes.
     
    No federal INCOME tax. They pay other taxes.

    So what?

    You’re dodging.

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    Dodging? What am I dodging? You made a statement and I told you you're wrong. Most people respond to that by accepting the correction.
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  40. Wally says:
    @bluedog
    Sure they are these companies and corporations are saving millions upon millions due to Trump and the republicans, while throwing a few crumbs to the workers who are suppose to lick their hands,many who only make $10-$11 dollars per hour, and seeing they are bonuses the government will take more than their share, and down the road these same workers will be paying it back in spades,after all someone has to fund the military/industrial racket...

    Please stop ranting. You’re just making stuff up as you go.

    However, I do not support the MIComplex, they are a problem, That was in place long before Trump, however.
    After just one year Trump has done amazing domestic work, especially given the racist hostility to him.

    I also notice that you dodged my references.

    a “few crumbs” per family:

    Average Family with Children Will Save $2-3K from GOP Tax Cut Bill
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/13/bernie-marcus-lefts-reverse-robin-hood-attack-gop-middle-class-tax-cut-bill-bunk/ “According to the official numbers (same sources that Obama used), the economy is growing moderately well, compared with the weak growth during the Obama administration. The gross domestic product expanded at an annual rate of 3.3 percent in the third quarter in 2017. That followed the second quarter’s 3.1 percent.”

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    Keep jerking yourself, you illiterate whack-job, but nothing's coming. Nobody who's taken your economy comment to task has suggested a preference for Obama, and certainly not for Hillary. In fact, I implied just the opposite. This little tantrum casts quite a shadow on your credibility.
    , @bluedog
    Indeed who really gives a rats ass about Obama or the sources he used ,for that has nothing at all to do with Trump and his tax cut, while kicking the can down the road for someone else to pay.As far as GDP I find it rather interesting that a good part of the GDP comes from's the financial sector (7% so I read) and we know or at least suspect that that's rotten to the core.Nice try but try again and explain just WHO will pay for the debt, or are you like Reagan and Bush the Stupid "the debt don't matter) well until it does that is.
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  41. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @The Alarmist

    "Strzok reportedly changed the words “grossly negligent” (which could have triggered legal prosecution) to the far less serious “extremely careless” in FBI Director James Comey’s depiction of Clinton’s actions. This semantic shift cleared the way for Comey to conclude just 20 days before the Democratic National Convention began in July 2016, that “no reasonable prosecutor” would bring charges against Mrs. Clinton."
     
    It's a thin line between "gross negligence" and "extreme carelessness." While "gross negligence" usually involves unintentional acts, they can border on intentional conduct by the very recklessness of the activity. A senior government moving vast amounts of classified data on unsecured networks can't begin to assert she didn't know the risks she was taking. Semantics here are irrelevant: The substance of the law is that HRC was grossly negligent.

    As a seasoned lawyer, Comey would know that a prosecutor could very reasonably equate the two and charge on a violation of 18 USC 793 (Gathering, transmitting, or losing defense information) There are a couple paragraphs that could be applied, but (f) looks most likely. The mere act of storing classified data on a personal server could also be a violation of 18 USC 798 (Disclosure of classified information). Destroying the same data might also be charged as violations of the 2009 Federal Records Act, and there is plenty of reason to pursue the limb of Obtruction of Justice in light of the other serious charges that could reasonably be made.

    In order to be credible, justice must be seen to be done. The longer Sessions and Trump let this charade go uninvestigated for fear that investigating it looks overtly political, the more political it actually becomes, and the less credible the rule of law in America becomes ("Laws and regulations are for the little people!)

    What that woman did would have gotten any other government official fired with loss of pension, not to mention jail time!

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  42. Wally says:
    @nickels
    I have to agree with RobinG here.
    The moment I heard Trump taking credit for some supposed 'economic recovery', I knew he was a fake.

    Whatever good he may do in some arena's, and despite the fact there was literally no choice but Trump, he obviously knows enough to understand that the economic 'recovery' is nothing but the bloat of a dying, rotting carcass in those moments before it ruptures and the fetid fumes of decay and disease spew out.

    Really?

    Is that why you dodged my references?

    Have another:
    European Populist Leaders Praise Trump, Call For End Of EU

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/17/european-populist-leaders-praise-trump-call-for-end-of-eu/

    and another:
    Trump’s Momentous First Year

    http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/12/trumps_momentous_first_year.html

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  43. @Wally
    said:
    "True. If you are able to pretend that the FICA tax is not a tax."

    If you are able to pretend people do not want Social Security & Medicare, then please do so.
    That should be entertaining.

    And it's those low earning, non-taxed workers who will take much more out of SS & MC then they ever pay in.

    Better luck next time.

    But is FICA a tax or not? Yes or no. Good luck Wally.

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    Sorry. Meant to include this link:

    https://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-tax/policy-basics-where-do-federal-tax-revenues-come-from
    , @Wally
    Not.

    Some tax that is where poor people profit from it to the hilt.

    Next.
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  44. annamaria says:

    After many rehearsals abroad, the US has become subjected to a coup d’etat arranged by the “locals.” What goes around comes around…

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  45. @WorkingClass
    But is FICA a tax or not? Yes or no. Good luck Wally.
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    FICA is where exactly?

    And you dodged my references.
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  46. bluedog says:
    @Wally
    Of course you believed the same sources when they were Obama's.

    Beside that, you're just ranting. I see nothing to back up your nonsense.

    I provided sources / back-up, you just scream like a little Hillary.

    No your not, your putting forth little but MSN street news or quoting government sources which of course is little more then government propaganda,Disney is handing out $1,000 dollars bonuses while saving millions upon millions due to Trumps tax change (which saved him a few million dollars) while paying their workers $11.00 per hour and Wal-Mart is no better laying off a thousand while crowing that they are going to raise wages up to $11.00 per hour,ITT handed out bonuses and the next day announced that they were laying off a thousand and outsourcing part of the work to India.Now I don’t presume your ignorant so do some reading for a change,David Stockman has a very good artical on Zero Hedge I suggest that you read it…

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    You dodged my numerous references.

    I see only talk, no real sources, numbers, facts from you. Telling.

    Oh well, try harder.
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  47. RobinG says:
    @Wally
    Please stop ranting. You're just making stuff up as you go.

    However, I do not support the MIComplex, they are a problem, That was in place long before Trump, however.
    After just one year Trump has done amazing domestic work, especially given the racist hostility to him.

    I also notice that you dodged my references.

    a "few crumbs" per family:

    Average Family with Children Will Save $2-3K from GOP Tax Cut Bill
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/13/bernie-marcus-lefts-reverse-robin-hood-attack-gop-middle-class-tax-cut-bill-bunk/ "According to the official numbers (same sources that Obama used), the economy is growing moderately well, compared with the weak growth during the Obama administration. The gross domestic product expanded at an annual rate of 3.3 percent in the third quarter in 2017. That followed the second quarter’s 3.1 percent."

    Keep jerking yourself, you illiterate whack-job, but nothing’s coming. Nobody who’s taken your economy comment to task has suggested a preference for Obama, and certainly not for Hillary. In fact, I implied just the opposite. This little tantrum casts quite a shadow on your credibility.

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    Robin, he has no credibility. With his constant reposting of canned lines from his site and his slavish devotion to Trump, he made my ignore list awhile back.
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  48. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Wally
    So what?

    You're dodging.

    Dodging? What am I dodging? You made a statement and I told you you’re wrong. Most people respond to that by accepting the correction.

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  49. bluedog says:
    @Wally
    Please stop ranting. You're just making stuff up as you go.

    However, I do not support the MIComplex, they are a problem, That was in place long before Trump, however.
    After just one year Trump has done amazing domestic work, especially given the racist hostility to him.

    I also notice that you dodged my references.

    a "few crumbs" per family:

    Average Family with Children Will Save $2-3K from GOP Tax Cut Bill
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/13/bernie-marcus-lefts-reverse-robin-hood-attack-gop-middle-class-tax-cut-bill-bunk/ "According to the official numbers (same sources that Obama used), the economy is growing moderately well, compared with the weak growth during the Obama administration. The gross domestic product expanded at an annual rate of 3.3 percent in the third quarter in 2017. That followed the second quarter’s 3.1 percent."

    Indeed who really gives a rats ass about Obama or the sources he used ,for that has nothing at all to do with Trump and his tax cut, while kicking the can down the road for someone else to pay.As far as GDP I find it rather interesting that a good part of the GDP comes from’s the financial sector (7% so I read) and we know or at least suspect that that’s rotten to the core.Nice try but try again and explain just WHO will pay for the debt, or are you like Reagan and Bush the Stupid “the debt don’t matter) well until it does that is.

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    IOW, 93% does not come from the financial sector.

    93%

    'Quit digging'.

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  50. chris says:

    The sad part will be to see how they will all, one after the other, get away with everything they’ve done.

    If any of them will even go to trial for anything other than some procedural point, they’ll all make a deal with DC-Democratic prosecutors, Hollywood will make a film casting them as heroes and they’ll all get a slap on the wrist, a la Petraeus.

    The politicians will claim that they have to hide the truth so that the public will not loose their ‘trust’ in these institutions, they’ll name some RINO as the ‘compromise’ candidate to lead these institutions and it’ll be back to business as usual in the heart of the empire, as in all previous times, see James Bovard’s article:

    http://thehill.com/opinion/civil-rights/370122-another-software-upgrade-suppressing-evidence-is-fbi-standard-procedure

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  51. chris says:

    my favoriete quote:

    Page– I don’t know. But we’ll get it back. We’re America. We rock.

    Such vacuous shallowness, imagining themselves to be the heroes of some cheap Hollywood movie, not even suspecting how 2 dimensional, delusional, and sophomoric it all sounds (of course, it only sound moronic because we found out about it before the plan reach its planned conclusion).

    After 14 years of non-stop wars and mass murder, we find out the empire is run by the cheerleading squad, motivating each other with high fives while trying to take ‘democracy’ down. Still, I suspect there were adults at table also who mad sure to say one step out of the spotlight.

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  52. “Page– I don’t know. But we’ll get it back. We’re America. We rock.”

    “We’re America. We Rock.”

    And there we have it folks, the type of REAL SERIOUS mature human beings with oodles of gravitas who infest the highest echelons of our bureaucracies.

    They rock.

    We’re deplorable.

    That little girl, Page, is stuck emotionally, in junior high. Trump is just not one of the cool kids and he needs to be ostracized.

    She doesn’t even have the self-awareness or intellect to know that she is conspiring to commit treason – at least the guy scum, like Strzok and McCabe are well aware that their actions are unethical and criminal.

    The only women allowed at any level of public life should be extremely well-vetted by men to ensure that the emotionally-immature junior high mentality (i.e. 90% of women) does not get into public life.

    Repeal the 19th Amendment now.

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    • Replies: @Steve Gittelson

    The only women allowed at any level of public life should be extremely well-vetted by men to ensure that the emotionally-immature junior high mentality (i.e. 90% of women) does not get into public life.

    Repeal the 19th Amendment now.
     
    LOL, another pathological chick-hater, overtones of homosexual fury and all.

    You invalidated everything you had to say by waxing stupidly, blindly misogynist. Fool.

    The only people allowed at any level of public life should be extremely well-vetted. Full stop.
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  53. @The Alarmist

    "Strzok reportedly changed the words “grossly negligent” (which could have triggered legal prosecution) to the far less serious “extremely careless” in FBI Director James Comey’s depiction of Clinton’s actions. This semantic shift cleared the way for Comey to conclude just 20 days before the Democratic National Convention began in July 2016, that “no reasonable prosecutor” would bring charges against Mrs. Clinton."
     
    It's a thin line between "gross negligence" and "extreme carelessness." While "gross negligence" usually involves unintentional acts, they can border on intentional conduct by the very recklessness of the activity. A senior government moving vast amounts of classified data on unsecured networks can't begin to assert she didn't know the risks she was taking. Semantics here are irrelevant: The substance of the law is that HRC was grossly negligent.

    As a seasoned lawyer, Comey would know that a prosecutor could very reasonably equate the two and charge on a violation of 18 USC 793 (Gathering, transmitting, or losing defense information) There are a couple paragraphs that could be applied, but (f) looks most likely. The mere act of storing classified data on a personal server could also be a violation of 18 USC 798 (Disclosure of classified information). Destroying the same data might also be charged as violations of the 2009 Federal Records Act, and there is plenty of reason to pursue the limb of Obtruction of Justice in light of the other serious charges that could reasonably be made.

    In order to be credible, justice must be seen to be done. The longer Sessions and Trump let this charade go uninvestigated for fear that investigating it looks overtly political, the more political it actually becomes, and the less credible the rule of law in America becomes ("Laws and regulations are for the little people!)

    “It’s a thin line between “gross negligence” and “extreme carelessness.” ”

    Not in the context of legal language. In fact, it’s a great divide. “Extremely careless” is not a federal criminal charge, while “gross negligence” actually is. Never mind about the difference in degree when speaking of the two terms, one is a crime, and the other is merely grounds for an investigation.

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    Disagree. The Smartest Woman in the World, occupying a senior government position and handling the most sensitive national security information, would clearly be knowledgeable of the risks to national security of exposing this information to compromise or loss. In being so careless, she crosses into gross negligence. There is no distinction at that point. Think of it like a driver texting while driving and running over a child ... extremely careless, and legally grossly negligent.
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  54. Frankie P says:
    @Ludwig Watzal
    Compared to the criminal and corrupt US political system, the mafia is an honor society oriented on values. More and more evidence appears that the whole Russian Gate was precooked by the Obama and Clinton mafia together with crooks like Clapper, Brennan, Comey. Lynch and many of the top brass in the FBI and the DoJ. The installment of Bob Mueller who is hugely biased and a Comey body hired only Clinton supporters as his lawyers. But such a team shows how corrupt the US justice system has already become.

    The mainstream media are involved in this witch hunt against Trump from the very beginning. Perhaps some of its bog shots were even paid for fabricated political reporting. The NYT, the Post, CNN, MSNBC and all the other so-called opinion leaders spread fake news and kept the legend of "Russian collusion" going over a year, despite presenting not a single piece of evidence. Their task was to manipulate and brainwash the American public.

    Just listen to this interview. One understands what was and still is going on in this crooked US political system.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=aa95jLxZfc4

    Excellent video, fantastic, in-depth analysis. Thank you.

    Frankie P

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  55. @Jim Christian

    Immigrants aren’t stealing shit, your masters want to see immigrants abused and unemployed just as much as they do native born
     
    Your Jewish masters, who don't play well with others in Israel, who jail Blacks from Africa for the crime of not leaving, who build walls, who accept no refugees from the wars they start and encourage, who do pay jokers like you at the Times and Post to write their strategy would love to guilt us. Doesn't work. These folks are mere economic immigrants, coming in on chain immigration and spawn-dropping. Stay home and fix your own countries and fuck off from mine, leeches.

    Or, alternatively, move to the friendly environs of Israel. See how Israel, who thinks immigration and race mixing is good for everyone but them, will treat the darks, the yellows, the browns from Mexico. If it's good for the United States, why not Israel? Should Mexico not take from Africans? Japan? China? Malaysia? If Africans are good and everything started in Africa, shouldn't the world all accept more, shouldn't everyone have some?

    When Israel puts the pressure on China to accept some Africans, some Hatians, some Mexicans, and accepts some for their very own, I'll listen.

    I would settle for Israel just taking in the refugees from the countries where Israeli interests demanded war. It makes no sense at all for any other country to have to take in the refugees from Israel’s wars especially since they have to be shipped them to another continent.

    Naturally, though, the ones being shipped to Europe and North America aren’t actually refugees, they are military age men who are invading those two continents so that there is an army of them in place for the time when the Zionists decide to launch them at the Christian populations they are targeting.

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  56. @nickels
    I have to agree with RobinG here.
    The moment I heard Trump taking credit for some supposed 'economic recovery', I knew he was a fake.

    Whatever good he may do in some arena's, and despite the fact there was literally no choice but Trump, he obviously knows enough to understand that the economic 'recovery' is nothing but the bloat of a dying, rotting carcass in those moments before it ruptures and the fetid fumes of decay and disease spew out.

    What’s ironic about it is that, by taking credit for any uptick in fake government numbers, he’s setting himself up to take the blame when the inevitable crash comes. You’d think that a stable genius would have taken that into consideration before raising his trumpet to his lips.

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  57. @peterike

    On the home front, Trump, his wealthy friends, and like-thinkers in Congress may now feel they have an even wider carte blanche to visit untold misery on the poor, the widow, the stranger and other vulnerable humans.

     

    Ok Ray, we all saw your little bit of virtue signalling there. But I mean.... the widow? Seriously? What is this, 1930? Oh and as for "the stranger," he can go to hell.

    Peter, those were references to Christ’s mention of the objects of Christian charity. If you’re not a Christian, maybe that’s how you mistook that sentence for “virtue signalling”.

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  58. @RobinG
    Keep jerking yourself, you illiterate whack-job, but nothing's coming. Nobody who's taken your economy comment to task has suggested a preference for Obama, and certainly not for Hillary. In fact, I implied just the opposite. This little tantrum casts quite a shadow on your credibility.

    Robin, he has no credibility. With his constant reposting of canned lines from his site and his slavish devotion to Trump, he made my ignore list awhile back.

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    IOW, you cannot refute me. LOL

    just for you:

    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here:
    http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com

    We're talking about an alleged '6M Jews & 5M others' ... 11,000,000.
    There is not a single verifiable excavated enormous mass grave with contents actually SHOWN, not just claimed, (recall the claim of 900,000 buried at Treblinka, 1,250,000 at Auschwitz, or 250,000 at Sobibor, 34,000 at Babi Yar) even though Jews claim they still exist and claim to know exactly where these alleged enormous mass graves are.
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  59. @Maple Curtain
    "Page– I don’t know. But we’ll get it back. We’re America. We rock."

    "We're America. We Rock."

    And there we have it folks, the type of REAL SERIOUS mature human beings with oodles of gravitas who infest the highest echelons of our bureaucracies.

    They rock.

    We're deplorable.

    That little girl, Page, is stuck emotionally, in junior high. Trump is just not one of the cool kids and he needs to be ostracized.

    She doesn't even have the self-awareness or intellect to know that she is conspiring to commit treason - at least the guy scum, like Strzok and McCabe are well aware that their actions are unethical and criminal.

    The only women allowed at any level of public life should be extremely well-vetted by men to ensure that the emotionally-immature junior high mentality (i.e. 90% of women) does not get into public life.

    Repeal the 19th Amendment now.

    The only women allowed at any level of public life should be extremely well-vetted by men to ensure that the emotionally-immature junior high mentality (i.e. 90% of women) does not get into public life.

    Repeal the 19th Amendment now.

    LOL, another pathological chick-hater, overtones of homosexual fury and all.

    You invalidated everything you had to say by waxing stupidly, blindly misogynist. Fool.

    The only people allowed at any level of public life should be extremely well-vetted. Full stop.

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    Oh, how cute. It's that little noob who thinks that anyone who doesn't worship Trump is a Hillary voting democrat. You're a typical GOP liberal who thinks he's a conservative. If you had any idea what a clueless SJW you sound like, you would probably STFU.
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  60. @Twodees Partain
    "It’s a thin line between “gross negligence” and “extreme carelessness.” "

    Not in the context of legal language. In fact, it's a great divide. "Extremely careless" is not a federal criminal charge, while "gross negligence" actually is. Never mind about the difference in degree when speaking of the two terms, one is a crime, and the other is merely grounds for an investigation.

    Disagree. The Smartest Woman in the World, occupying a senior government position and handling the most sensitive national security information, would clearly be knowledgeable of the risks to national security of exposing this information to compromise or loss. In being so careless, she crosses into gross negligence. There is no distinction at that point. Think of it like a driver texting while driving and running over a child … extremely careless, and legally grossly negligent.

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    I think he is referring to the actual statute that uses the exact term "gross negligence". Remember the original memo said "gross negligence". If you state something in your finding and it matches the exact words in the statute, there is no way Hillary can avoid prosecution. She can if other weasel words are used instead.

    It doesn't really matter if you (or anybody else) can't see any light between the two. One must be prosecuted and the other is at the discretion of the prosecutor .
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  61. Trump is going to testify under oath.

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  62. MarkinLA says:
    @The Alarmist
    Disagree. The Smartest Woman in the World, occupying a senior government position and handling the most sensitive national security information, would clearly be knowledgeable of the risks to national security of exposing this information to compromise or loss. In being so careless, she crosses into gross negligence. There is no distinction at that point. Think of it like a driver texting while driving and running over a child ... extremely careless, and legally grossly negligent.

    I think he is referring to the actual statute that uses the exact term “gross negligence”. Remember the original memo said “gross negligence”. If you state something in your finding and it matches the exact words in the statute, there is no way Hillary can avoid prosecution. She can if other weasel words are used instead.

    It doesn’t really matter if you (or anybody else) can’t see any light between the two. One must be prosecuted and the other is at the discretion of the prosecutor .

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    Yes, that was my reference. Thanks, Mark, for saving me a lot of retyping. ;-)
    , @The Alarmist
    I will admit I studied law in the UK, but I think I have a grasp on law in the US. The substance of the law is that gross negligence has taken place, even if an "investigator" has decided to misclassify it semantically.
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  63. Wally says:
    @The Alarmist

    "The official unemployment rate has utterly dropped."
     
    There, fixed it for you. But it does appear that some of the circa 90m to 100m who are qualified for the US labour force but not participating in it, and are therefore not reflected in the official unemployment rate, are coming off the sidelines as the economy warms up.

    Think how many more might start working again if the Trump administration were allowed to build the wall and enforce our immigration laws instead of being sidetracked with "fairness" for the DACA kiddies and DREEEEEEMERZ, not to mention the other 25m illegal aliens, who are here taking jobs and welfare benefits away from deserving American poor people.

    #StopTheInvasion

    Prove it wrong then.

    I agree, stop the invasion.

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  64. Wally says:
    @WorkingClass
    But is FICA a tax or not? Yes or no. Good luck Wally.

    Not.

    Some tax that is where poor people profit from it to the hilt.

    Next.

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    Prove what wrong?
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  65. Wally says:
    @WorkingClass
    Sorry. Meant to include this link:

    https://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-tax/policy-basics-where-do-federal-tax-revenues-come-from

    FICA is where exactly?

    And you dodged my references.

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  66. Wally says:
    @bluedog
    No your not, your putting forth little but MSN street news or quoting government sources which of course is little more then government propaganda,Disney is handing out $1,000 dollars bonuses while saving millions upon millions due to Trumps tax change (which saved him a few million dollars) while paying their workers $11.00 per hour and Wal-Mart is no better laying off a thousand while crowing that they are going to raise wages up to $11.00 per hour,ITT handed out bonuses and the next day announced that they were laying off a thousand and outsourcing part of the work to India.Now I don't presume your ignorant so do some reading for a change,David Stockman has a very good artical on Zero Hedge I suggest that you read it...

    You dodged my numerous references.

    I see only talk, no real sources, numbers, facts from you. Telling.

    Oh well, try harder.

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    I trust you can read can't you after all there are far to many artical's written by those with far more expertise on the subject of finance than you or I, and it would make you look less a fool or a troll..
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  67. Wally says:
    @Twodees Partain
    Robin, he has no credibility. With his constant reposting of canned lines from his site and his slavish devotion to Trump, he made my ignore list awhile back.

    IOW, you cannot refute me. LOL

    just for you:

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:

    http://codoh.com

    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

    http://forum.codoh.com

    We’re talking about an alleged ’6M Jews & 5M others’ … 11,000,000.
    There is not a single verifiable excavated enormous mass grave with contents actually SHOWN, not just claimed, (recall the claim of 900,000 buried at Treblinka, 1,250,000 at Auschwitz, or 250,000 at Sobibor, 34,000 at Babi Yar) even though Jews claim they still exist and claim to know exactly where these alleged enormous mass graves are.

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  68. Wally says:
    @bluedog
    Indeed who really gives a rats ass about Obama or the sources he used ,for that has nothing at all to do with Trump and his tax cut, while kicking the can down the road for someone else to pay.As far as GDP I find it rather interesting that a good part of the GDP comes from's the financial sector (7% so I read) and we know or at least suspect that that's rotten to the core.Nice try but try again and explain just WHO will pay for the debt, or are you like Reagan and Bush the Stupid "the debt don't matter) well until it does that is.

    IOW, 93% does not come from the financial sector.

    93%

    ‘Quit digging’.

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    Ah how we twist and turn for I stated 7% of GDP came from the financial sector,lol try again..
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  69. @Steve Gittelson

    The only women allowed at any level of public life should be extremely well-vetted by men to ensure that the emotionally-immature junior high mentality (i.e. 90% of women) does not get into public life.

    Repeal the 19th Amendment now.
     
    LOL, another pathological chick-hater, overtones of homosexual fury and all.

    You invalidated everything you had to say by waxing stupidly, blindly misogynist. Fool.

    The only people allowed at any level of public life should be extremely well-vetted. Full stop.

    Oh, how cute. It’s that little noob who thinks that anyone who doesn’t worship Trump is a Hillary voting democrat. You’re a typical GOP liberal who thinks he’s a conservative. If you had any idea what a clueless SJW you sound like, you would probably STFU.

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  70. @MarkinLA
    I think he is referring to the actual statute that uses the exact term "gross negligence". Remember the original memo said "gross negligence". If you state something in your finding and it matches the exact words in the statute, there is no way Hillary can avoid prosecution. She can if other weasel words are used instead.

    It doesn't really matter if you (or anybody else) can't see any light between the two. One must be prosecuted and the other is at the discretion of the prosecutor .

    Yes, that was my reference. Thanks, Mark, for saving me a lot of retyping. ;-)

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  71. @Wally
    Not.

    Some tax that is where poor people profit from it to the hilt.

    Next.

    Prove what wrong?

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    You're truly making no sense again.

    And still dodging.

    You lost.

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  72. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The FBI answers to the CIA. This essay is absurd.

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    "Absurd"... really?
    https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2018/01/25/russiagate-stakes-extreme/
    "...many people do not understand that the somewhat redacted FISA court document that has been declassified and released and explained by myself, William Binney, and former US Attorney Joe di Genova (see: https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2018/01/22/here-are-all-the-facts-about-russiagate/ ) contains admissions by the FBI and DOJ that they improperty spied and obtained warrants from the court under false pretenses. In other words, we have it on the authority of the FISA court itself that the FBI and DOJ have admitted to the court their transgressions. When Department of Justice (sic) congressional liaison Stephen Boyd says the DOJ is “unaware of any wrongdoing,” he is lying through his teeth. The DOJ has already confessed its wrongdoing to the FISA court.
    (See Lendman on Boyd’s claim that releasing the memo would harm national security and ongoing investigations. This is always the claim made when government has to cover up its crimes. http://stephenlendman.org/2018/01/memo-detailing-russiagate-abuses-names-high-level-us-officials/ )
    When Admiral Rodgers, director of the National Security Agency, discovered that the FBI and DOJ were misusing the spy system for partisan political reasons, he let it be known that he was going to inform the FISA court. This caused the FBI and DOJ to rush to the court in advance and confess to “mistakes” and to promise to tighten up procedures so as not to make mistakes in the future. It is these “mistakes” and corrections that the FISA court document reveals.
    In other words, the information already exists in the pubic domain that proves that Russiagate was a conspiracy organized for the purpose of bringing down the elected president of the United States.
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  73. @MarkinLA
    I think he is referring to the actual statute that uses the exact term "gross negligence". Remember the original memo said "gross negligence". If you state something in your finding and it matches the exact words in the statute, there is no way Hillary can avoid prosecution. She can if other weasel words are used instead.

    It doesn't really matter if you (or anybody else) can't see any light between the two. One must be prosecuted and the other is at the discretion of the prosecutor .

    I will admit I studied law in the UK, but I think I have a grasp on law in the US. The substance of the law is that gross negligence has taken place, even if an “investigator” has decided to misclassify it semantically.

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    To pick up on that, most US lawyers are actually rather un-creative. I have crossed swords with litigators who are quite creative and bold, but for the most part a US lawyer will read the statute and conclude, "Oh well, the facts don't fit the requirements of the statute" while the body of common law suggests there is ample room to manoeuvre.

    You haven't lived until a court voids a certified cheque to your client because a US lawyer has argued that you are not a holder in due course; meanwhile, government lawyers say, "Oh well, it was only carelessness, so we cannot really pursue the matter."

    One word: "P***ies." Oh wait, "Traitors" or "Accomplices" might apply.
    , @Twodees Partain
    Mark puts it in the proper words. Hillary should, and possibly may, be prosecuted for mishandling of classified documents. Comey, acting as an investigator, did present his findings dishonestly, and is now liable for prosecution as well.
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  74. @The Alarmist
    I will admit I studied law in the UK, but I think I have a grasp on law in the US. The substance of the law is that gross negligence has taken place, even if an "investigator" has decided to misclassify it semantically.

    To pick up on that, most US lawyers are actually rather un-creative. I have crossed swords with litigators who are quite creative and bold, but for the most part a US lawyer will read the statute and conclude, “Oh well, the facts don’t fit the requirements of the statute” while the body of common law suggests there is ample room to manoeuvre.

    You haven’t lived until a court voids a certified cheque to your client because a US lawyer has argued that you are not a holder in due course; meanwhile, government lawyers say, “Oh well, it was only carelessness, so we cannot really pursue the matter.”

    One word: “P***ies.” Oh wait, “Traitors” or “Accomplices” might apply.

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    There was never going to be a prosecution of Hillary no matter what. Comey and company had to make sure of that. I wouldn't be surprised if the Comey team passed information to Hillary's lawyers to coach her on what to say when she was interviewed.
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  75. Wally says:
    @The Alarmist
    Prove what wrong?

    You’re truly making no sense again.

    And still dodging.

    You lost.

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    You're trolling the wrong guy, dude. I think you wanted the other commentor to another remark.
    , @Ilyana_Rozumova
    You seem to be expert in these matters.
    Please!
    I do have big favor to ask from you.
    It is concerning dates.
    When Hitler attacked Poland.
    When the military campaign ended.
    Date of Katin massacre.
    Date of Hitler speech.
    Date of German divisions entering Serbia to suppress the uprising
    Date of leaving.
    Date of German army crossing Russia border.
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  76. renfro says:

    Back to the matter at hand……

    I do not think Mueller can get Trump on collusion with Russia…..specifically because there was no collusion with the Kremlin/official Government.
    Instead there were a lot of contacts with individual Russians seeking to get a deal on something to boost their own Russian creds with Putin or for their own private financial gain. Also outreach by Kushner to Russian money men and bankers for his 1 billion in debt.

    Mueller has a better chance of getting Trump on obstruction of justice and maybe lying to the FBI because Trump, in the coming trump- Mueller interview, doesn’t know what Mueller may already know from his interviews with others so if he spins and lies he’s toast.

    I don’t care about Trump being impeached as much as I care about removing Kushner. Kushner is dirtier than pig shit and using his position to trade influence for money for the Kushners in every foreign contact he makes.

    Trumps relationship with Kushner is beyond weird, really, really weird….something ties them together and I would bet money that’s its being party to money laundering thru their real estate deals and loans. Trump cant be the genius he claims to be, and claims Jared is. and they not know all the money flowing to them from Russian oligarchs and other known money movers isn’t dirty as hell.

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    Mueller's investigation has, according to this article, accidentally turned up something that should put Mueller in prison:

    https://www.sott.net/article/375184-Muellers-investigation-accidentally-exposes-FBI-cover-up-of-Saudi-role-in-9-11

    If Trump was the stable genius he says he is, he would have seen to it that Kushner would never have married his daughter. If he is even a little smart, he would give Kushner the boot now, though it's probably too late to avoid the consequences of his appointment of Kushner.

    Dimwit that I am, my conclusion is that Trump isn't a genius after all.
    , @MarkinLA
    The problem with so called "dirty money" is that it may not be dirty in Russia. If it is not associated with drugs or some other universally illegal activity, there may be no real crime committed other than the usual stuff of squirreling money offshore that all the superrich do.

    In addition, the wealthy always make deals with each other that usually don't get much press. Remember all those sweetheart deals Warren Buffet got in 2008 providing private money to corporations on the verge of bankruptcy. Nobody else got those deals and the shareholders got screwed comparatively.
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  77. @The Alarmist
    I will admit I studied law in the UK, but I think I have a grasp on law in the US. The substance of the law is that gross negligence has taken place, even if an "investigator" has decided to misclassify it semantically.

    Mark puts it in the proper words. Hillary should, and possibly may, be prosecuted for mishandling of classified documents. Comey, acting as an investigator, did present his findings dishonestly, and is now liable for prosecution as well.

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  78. CanSpeccy says: • Website

    What is scary is the ghastly, driveling, self-congratulatory, liberal stupidity.

    With many senior bureaucrats like Strzok and Page, the US has to be finished.

    What has gone wrong? Are America’s universities all crap now, or is it exposure to the media, junk food, or belief in America the exceptional nation?

    Or is it the American obsession with money, that insures that no one of any intelligence wants to do do anything other than work for Goldman Sachs, or make a few billion with an IPO for some toxic social media garbage, thus leaving only the dimwits to manage the affairs of state?

    But whatever the cause, no nation can long succeed with such dopey and irresponsible people managing the organs of government.

    Trump ran on the promise to make America great again. If there are many like Strzok and Page in Washington DC, he’ll have his work cut out.

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    Why do fearful children still imagine Trump is their savior? Only slaves support the Government, democrat or republican. Only zombie slaves can't recognize their own slavery. Smarter slaves see it. Only a coward who loves the troops and the cops and Big Government in general and thinks of himself as a free person imagines Trump will save him and make things "great again"
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  79. @renfro
    Back to the matter at hand......

    I do not think Mueller can get Trump on collusion with Russia.....specifically because there was no collusion with the Kremlin/official Government.
    Instead there were a lot of contacts with individual Russians seeking to get a deal on something to boost their own Russian creds with Putin or for their own private financial gain. Also outreach by Kushner to Russian money men and bankers for his 1 billion in debt.

    Mueller has a better chance of getting Trump on obstruction of justice and maybe lying to the FBI because Trump, in the coming trump- Mueller interview, doesn't know what Mueller may already know from his interviews with others so if he spins and lies he's toast.

    I don't care about Trump being impeached as much as I care about removing Kushner. Kushner is dirtier than pig shit and using his position to trade influence for money for the Kushners in every foreign contact he makes.

    Trumps relationship with Kushner is beyond weird, really, really weird....something ties them together and I would bet money that's its being party to money laundering thru their real estate deals and loans. Trump cant be the genius he claims to be, and claims Jared is. and they not know all the money flowing to them from Russian oligarchs and other known money movers isn't dirty as hell.

    Mueller’s investigation has, according to this article, accidentally turned up something that should put Mueller in prison:

    https://www.sott.net/article/375184-Muellers-investigation-accidentally-exposes-FBI-cover-up-of-Saudi-role-in-9-11

    If Trump was the stable genius he says he is, he would have seen to it that Kushner would never have married his daughter. If he is even a little smart, he would give Kushner the boot now, though it’s probably too late to avoid the consequences of his appointment of Kushner.

    Dimwit that I am, my conclusion is that Trump isn’t a genius after all.

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    Interesting link.

    As The Free Thought Project has reported, Trump is also complicit in covering for the Saudis, as he went from calling for holding Saudi Arabia accountable for its involvement in 9/11, to ignoring the idea that the country could have had any involvement at all.

    After months on the campaign trail, in which he pledged that if he was elected, Americans would "find out who really knocked down the World Trade Center," Trump made Saudi Arabia the first foreign nation he visited as president of the U.S.

    Trump's visit with Saudi King Salman occurred on May 20 - just four days after Judge Altonaga ruled that the FBI should face a Freedom of Information trial in an attempt to pursue transparency surrounding the funding of the 9/11 attacks.

    During the visit, Trump announced plans for a $110 BILLION weapons deal with Saudi Arabia, which adds a new level of context that should be considered when looking at why Altonaga then reversed her decision on June 29.
     
    That is an unexpected twist!
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  80. Screw Trump! Lets get rid of Trump.
    It fits better with the plan of liberation of Kosovo!

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  81. Biff says:
    @Greg Bacon

    We suddenly have documentary proof that key elements of the U.S. intelligence community were trying to short-circuit the U.S. democratic process.
     
    Considering all the experience gleaned from 7+ decades of subverting and overthrowing governments around the world, the Deep State thugs must of thought securing the WH for their Killer Queen was a 'slam dunk.'
    My believe is that Trump actually got around 70% of the vote, a number that overwhelmed their computerized vote fixing.

    All the grief, misery and destruction we've visited upon nations around the world is now coming back to haunt Americans.
    Only part missing is the violent overthrow or assassination of a leader and don't put the Deep State thugs beyond that.

    Only part missing is the violent overthrow or assassination of a leader and don’t put the Deep State thugs beyond that.

    Duh! Want to hear a funny story – a lone gun man waited till his moving target got a hundred yards away from him(instead of shooting his target when it was right in front of him), and beaned his target right in the head, with an old rifle he never practiced with.
    Then , once in custody, he was marched right in front of his assassin to be silenced forever.

    They wouldn’t lie to us, would they?

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  82. @Twodees Partain
    Mueller's investigation has, according to this article, accidentally turned up something that should put Mueller in prison:

    https://www.sott.net/article/375184-Muellers-investigation-accidentally-exposes-FBI-cover-up-of-Saudi-role-in-9-11

    If Trump was the stable genius he says he is, he would have seen to it that Kushner would never have married his daughter. If he is even a little smart, he would give Kushner the boot now, though it's probably too late to avoid the consequences of his appointment of Kushner.

    Dimwit that I am, my conclusion is that Trump isn't a genius after all.

    Interesting link.

    As The Free Thought Project has reported, Trump is also complicit in covering for the Saudis, as he went from calling for holding Saudi Arabia accountable for its involvement in 9/11, to ignoring the idea that the country could have had any involvement at all.

    After months on the campaign trail, in which he pledged that if he was elected, Americans would “find out who really knocked down the World Trade Center,” Trump made Saudi Arabia the first foreign nation he visited as president of the U.S.

    Trump’s visit with Saudi King Salman occurred on May 20 – just four days after Judge Altonaga ruled that the FBI should face a Freedom of Information trial in an attempt to pursue transparency surrounding the funding of the 9/11 attacks.

    During the visit, Trump announced plans for a $110 BILLION weapons deal with Saudi Arabia, which adds a new level of context that should be considered when looking at why Altonaga then reversed her decision on June 29.

    That is an unexpected twist!

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    Yes, that was the capper of the article for me. It seems that no American president can resist that little ceremony with the Saudi king and the nice piece of 21karat bling the king hangs around his neck at the ceremony. I'm surprised that Obama didn't keep wearing his outside his shirt for the rest of the time he was in office.
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  83. @Wally
    Get serious. lightweight.
    They use the same metrics that Obama used and you had no problem with those. LOL

    And you're wrong again and utterly outgunned. Bonuses are being handed out to regular employees by many of the biggest companies. You're in denial of widely available facts.

    bonus info. here:
    http://www.breitbart.com/search/?s=bonuses#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=bonuses&gsc.page=1
    plummeting unemployment info. here:
    http://www.breitbart.com/search/?s=unemployment#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=unemployment&gsc.page=1
    Trump’s boost to economy can’t be denied
    https://www.prisonplanet.com/in-year-of-chaos-trumps-boost-to-economy-cant-be-denied.html
    Average Family with Children Will Save $2-3K from GOP Tax Cut Bill
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/13/bernie-marcus-lefts-reverse-robin-hood-attack-gop-middle-class-tax-cut-bill-bunk/
    7 Amazing Facts About Trump’s Economy Media Don’t Want You to Know
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/19/nolte-7-facts-trumps-economy-media-dont-want-know/

    Wow, I’m impressed. Two Wally posts in a row without harping on the Holocaust and giving the inevitable CODOH links. What’s going on?

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  84. RobinG says:

    Bill Binney discusses Dragnet Against TRUMP and ALL AMERICANS

    William Binney About Released Secret FISA Memo: People Need To Go To Jail

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  85. @Anonymous
    Settle down Johnny. Israel isn’t the man fucking you in the ass.

    Settle down Johnny. Israel isn’t the man fucking you in the ass.

    No, not me personally. However, Israeli-First Harvey Weinstein liked HIS anal-rape victims specifically non-Jewish. He’s not unique.

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    What makes prostitutes suddenly scream rape years later? The US national police force FBI was created by a known transvestite J Edgar Hoover. The elite have always been fucking little boys, pressuring people for sex, hiring hookers for money and access and so on.

    Empires that actually fuck a citizenry of credulous fools in the ass manufacture a movement that creates a victim and predator. Selected fornicators are paraded by the media for you to toss off too. Double standard here because zombie idiots have always supported soldiers who engage in looting, rape, and mass murder, today and in the past. The refuge of the stupid is an obession with sex crimes.

    The USSR fell decades ago, but the USA spends much more on the military today than back then. Lube up bitch, and bring Israel with you to the tent city.

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  86. @Wally
    You're truly making no sense again.

    And still dodging.

    You lost.

    You’re trolling the wrong guy, dude. I think you wanted the other commentor to another remark.

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  87. bluedog says:
    @Wally
    You dodged my numerous references.

    I see only talk, no real sources, numbers, facts from you. Telling.

    Oh well, try harder.

    I trust you can read can’t you after all there are far to many artical’s written by those with far more expertise on the subject of finance than you or I, and it would make you look less a fool or a troll..

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  88. bluedog says:
    @Wally
    IOW, 93% does not come from the financial sector.

    93%

    'Quit digging'.

    Ah how we twist and turn for I stated 7% of GDP came from the financial sector,lol try again..

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  89. @Cloak And Dagger
    Interesting link.

    As The Free Thought Project has reported, Trump is also complicit in covering for the Saudis, as he went from calling for holding Saudi Arabia accountable for its involvement in 9/11, to ignoring the idea that the country could have had any involvement at all.

    After months on the campaign trail, in which he pledged that if he was elected, Americans would "find out who really knocked down the World Trade Center," Trump made Saudi Arabia the first foreign nation he visited as president of the U.S.

    Trump's visit with Saudi King Salman occurred on May 20 - just four days after Judge Altonaga ruled that the FBI should face a Freedom of Information trial in an attempt to pursue transparency surrounding the funding of the 9/11 attacks.

    During the visit, Trump announced plans for a $110 BILLION weapons deal with Saudi Arabia, which adds a new level of context that should be considered when looking at why Altonaga then reversed her decision on June 29.
     
    That is an unexpected twist!

    Yes, that was the capper of the article for me. It seems that no American president can resist that little ceremony with the Saudi king and the nice piece of 21karat bling the king hangs around his neck at the ceremony. I’m surprised that Obama didn’t keep wearing his outside his shirt for the rest of the time he was in office.

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  90. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    We need to congratulate the “deep state” for such a successful pysop as the one we are witnessing now. The US had eclipsed the largely successful propaganda effort of Watergate by 9/11. Russia-gate is a whole new level of social engineering. Economy smolders, plan B.

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  91. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    No elections are needed for power. The insinuation here is ludicrous. The FBI is what, going to be called out? Reprimanded? Restaffed with mercenaries? The FBI is a useful tool. Right now, they are the star of the show. A bunch of text messages demand days of propaganda cycles, noise and hysteria. Who can argue with the text messages that are facts? Nothing else matters, or so you’d be expected to think.

    You’d be convinced once again that the Presidency and its personality are so critically important that powerful individuals are tainting the sanctity of Democracy by plotting like school children trading pics on their phones. Most American children understood the Wizard of Oz but child like credulity is a requirement to be an American.

    There’s no such thing as Democracy, we have an elaborate stage show in front of a crumbling military. The fear is palpable – the elite are so concerned the transparent fraud of their police state oligarchy will finally be revealed. They will stop at nothing in their propaganda efforts. It’s probably time for live action, more fear, and more hatred since things will continue to “go South”.

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  92. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @CanSpeccy
    What is scary is the ghastly, driveling, self-congratulatory, liberal stupidity.

    With many senior bureaucrats like Strzok and Page, the US has to be finished.

    What has gone wrong? Are America's universities all crap now, or is it exposure to the media, junk food, or belief in America the exceptional nation?

    Or is it the American obsession with money, that insures that no one of any intelligence wants to do do anything other than work for Goldman Sachs, or make a few billion with an IPO for some toxic social media garbage, thus leaving only the dimwits to manage the affairs of state?

    But whatever the cause, no nation can long succeed with such dopey and irresponsible people managing the organs of government.

    Trump ran on the promise to make America great again. If there are many like Strzok and Page in Washington DC, he'll have his work cut out.

    Why do fearful children still imagine Trump is their savior? Only slaves support the Government, democrat or republican. Only zombie slaves can’t recognize their own slavery. Smarter slaves see it. Only a coward who loves the troops and the cops and Big Government in general and thinks of himself as a free person imagines Trump will save him and make things “great again”

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    Why do fearful children still imagine Trump is their savior?
     
    Don't ask me. First, I'm not a child. Second, I'm not an American. Third, I'm not expecting Trump to save me. Fourth, like H.L. Mencken, I attend to the unfolding of events in the US of A as one might attend to the glitter of a seven-ring circus. Whether Trump's America will end with armageddon, or the restoration of some semblance of sanity, decency, and military effectiveness, remains to be seen. But it is, in my view, at least a marginally open question.

    So far, Trump has, as promised, removed tens of millions of the lowest paid workers from the tax rolls. He's also slashed taxes for the rich, thereby creating a huge deficit, which, if he is smart, he will eliminate by firing half the public service, folks like Strzok and Page included. Meantime he seems to be making some effort to fulfill his promise to restore the US border, which would surely be a good thing for the working people who voted for him.

    Most Americans, it seems, view political issues in strictly binary terms. Trump is obviously not as pure in heart as Jesus Christ, therefore he must be bad in every respect: a dopey view, it seems to me. But having led the world in mass higher education, America seems to have reached the point at which few know how to think.

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  93. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Jim Christian

    Settle down Johnny. Israel isn’t the man fucking you in the ass.
     
    No, not me personally. However, Israeli-First Harvey Weinstein liked HIS anal-rape victims specifically non-Jewish. He's not unique.

    What makes prostitutes suddenly scream rape years later? The US national police force FBI was created by a known transvestite J Edgar Hoover. The elite have always been fucking little boys, pressuring people for sex, hiring hookers for money and access and so on.

    Empires that actually fuck a citizenry of credulous fools in the ass manufacture a movement that creates a victim and predator. Selected fornicators are paraded by the media for you to toss off too. Double standard here because zombie idiots have always supported soldiers who engage in looting, rape, and mass murder, today and in the past. The refuge of the stupid is an obession with sex crimes.

    The USSR fell decades ago, but the USA spends much more on the military today than back then. Lube up bitch, and bring Israel with you to the tent city.

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  94. annamaria says:
    @Anonymous
    The FBI answers to the CIA. This essay is absurd.

    “Absurd”… really?

    https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2018/01/25/russiagate-stakes-extreme/

    “…many people do not understand that the somewhat redacted FISA court document that has been declassified and released and explained by myself, William Binney, and former US Attorney Joe di Genova (see: https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2018/01/22/here-are-all-the-facts-about-russiagate/ ) contains admissions by the FBI and DOJ that they improperty spied and obtained warrants from the court under false pretenses. In other words, we have it on the authority of the FISA court itself that the FBI and DOJ have admitted to the court their transgressions. When Department of Justice (sic) congressional liaison Stephen Boyd says the DOJ is “unaware of any wrongdoing,” he is lying through his teeth. The DOJ has already confessed its wrongdoing to the FISA court.
    (See Lendman on Boyd’s claim that releasing the memo would harm national security and ongoing investigations. This is always the claim made when government has to cover up its crimes. http://stephenlendman.org/2018/01/memo-detailing-russiagate-abuses-names-high-level-us-officials/ )
    When Admiral Rodgers, director of the National Security Agency, discovered that the FBI and DOJ were misusing the spy system for partisan political reasons, he let it be known that he was going to inform the FISA court. This caused the FBI and DOJ to rush to the court in advance and confess to “mistakes” and to promise to tighten up procedures so as not to make mistakes in the future. It is these “mistakes” and corrections that the FISA court document reveals.
    In other words, the information already exists in the pubic domain that proves that Russiagate was a conspiracy organized for the purpose of bringing down the elected president of the United States.

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    Real conservatives would support the players, not the Government. Only slaves who need daddy to protect them support the cops or the troops or the flag. The Flag represents a False Idol like the Golden Calf. You want the Government to strike at your enemies whoever they fuck you're told they are. Wake up. Every time CIA agent Paul Craig Roberts says the CIA is going to do something or there's a conspiracy according to Philip Giraldi you swallow the entire load no questions asked?

    The internet does a great job of brainwashing people into thinking ex-military, CIA and press spooks are the "good guys." Guys like Roberts represent Big Government at its worst, something all conservatives should oppose, but rarely do, except in their delusions.

    Trump intended to join the swamp all along. The real cash lies there. Trump came in a billionaire and will leave office one of the richest men in the world.

    The USA has beggars at every street corner and crumbling cities. The US has bridges that collapse with drivers on them. The US has massive unemployment and real wages have not gone up in 50 years. They have gone down since the 1950s and 1960s. The US has a big military and not much else. Without the military, the dollar would have disappeared as a world currency long ago. The blame lies not just with the ruling class and their increasingly destructive press but much blame lies with the voting class, which consists primarily of zombies who have gone along with evil for decades.
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  95. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @annamaria
    "Absurd"... really?
    https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2018/01/25/russiagate-stakes-extreme/
    "...many people do not understand that the somewhat redacted FISA court document that has been declassified and released and explained by myself, William Binney, and former US Attorney Joe di Genova (see: https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2018/01/22/here-are-all-the-facts-about-russiagate/ ) contains admissions by the FBI and DOJ that they improperty spied and obtained warrants from the court under false pretenses. In other words, we have it on the authority of the FISA court itself that the FBI and DOJ have admitted to the court their transgressions. When Department of Justice (sic) congressional liaison Stephen Boyd says the DOJ is “unaware of any wrongdoing,” he is lying through his teeth. The DOJ has already confessed its wrongdoing to the FISA court.
    (See Lendman on Boyd’s claim that releasing the memo would harm national security and ongoing investigations. This is always the claim made when government has to cover up its crimes. http://stephenlendman.org/2018/01/memo-detailing-russiagate-abuses-names-high-level-us-officials/ )
    When Admiral Rodgers, director of the National Security Agency, discovered that the FBI and DOJ were misusing the spy system for partisan political reasons, he let it be known that he was going to inform the FISA court. This caused the FBI and DOJ to rush to the court in advance and confess to “mistakes” and to promise to tighten up procedures so as not to make mistakes in the future. It is these “mistakes” and corrections that the FISA court document reveals.
    In other words, the information already exists in the pubic domain that proves that Russiagate was a conspiracy organized for the purpose of bringing down the elected president of the United States.

    Real conservatives would support the players, not the Government. Only slaves who need daddy to protect them support the cops or the troops or the flag. The Flag represents a False Idol like the Golden Calf. You want the Government to strike at your enemies whoever they fuck you’re told they are. Wake up. Every time CIA agent Paul Craig Roberts says the CIA is going to do something or there’s a conspiracy according to Philip Giraldi you swallow the entire load no questions asked?

    The internet does a great job of brainwashing people into thinking ex-military, CIA and press spooks are the “good guys.” Guys like Roberts represent Big Government at its worst, something all conservatives should oppose, but rarely do, except in their delusions.

    Trump intended to join the swamp all along. The real cash lies there. Trump came in a billionaire and will leave office one of the richest men in the world.

    The USA has beggars at every street corner and crumbling cities. The US has bridges that collapse with drivers on them. The US has massive unemployment and real wages have not gone up in 50 years. They have gone down since the 1950s and 1960s. The US has a big military and not much else. Without the military, the dollar would have disappeared as a world currency long ago. The blame lies not just with the ruling class and their increasingly destructive press but much blame lies with the voting class, which consists primarily of zombies who have gone along with evil for decades.

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  96. JohnTyler says:

    Oil exports are the life blood of Putin and Russia; they produce little else for export.
    The higher the world price of oil, the more $$$$ go into Russia’s and Putin’s pocket to finance Putin’s domestic and FOREIGN policies (i.e., make Russia Great Again)

    From the get go during the presidential campaign, Trump was very adamant and vocal that the USA would drill, drill, drill, frack, frack frack. If Trump were elected, USA oil /gas production would sky rocket and this would depress world oil prices.

    Hillary would follow Obama’s oil/gas production policies; that is, do whatever to discourage the production of US oil and gas under the guise of “saving the environment.”

    So, who really believes that Putin would support Trump instead of Hillary????
    Which US President – Trump or Hillary – would literally put more $$$ into Putin’s hands?

    Any idiot could see from DAY 1 that the Trump /Russia collusion scheme (i.e., to thwart Hillary’s ascension to the presidency) was a big lie, a scam, a fraud.

    Anybody that believes in the Trump / Russia collusion scam must be a total moron or a democrat.

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  97. renfro says:

    Trump’s babysitter…?

    Oligarch Is in Las Vegas at the Same Time as Trump

    According to reporting by MSNBC’s the $100 million plane belonging to the Russian oligarch who had bought a Florida residence from Trump for $95 million in 2008 —
    Dmitry Rybolovlev is a Russian oligarch who in 2008 paid $95 million for a house that Trump had purchased three years earlier for $41 million. During the 2016 presidential campaign, Rybolovlev’s private jet appeared periodically at sites where Trump was holding rallies.

    Oligarch in Miami the Same Weekend Trump

    On the Friday preceding Donald Trump’s weekend at Mar-a-Lago, the plane belonging to the Russian oligarch who had bought a Florida residence from Trump for $95 million in 2008,
    Dmitry Rybolovlev is a Russian oligarch who in 2008 paid $95 million for a house that Trump had purchased three years earlier for $41 million. During the 2016 presidential campaign, Rybolovlev’s private jet appeared periodically at sites where Trump was holding rallies..

    Oligarch Visits British Virgin Islands at Same Time as Breitbart Investor

    Dmitry Rybolovlev is anchored within a few hundred feet of Robert Mercer’s luxury yacht. Mercer has a multimillion-dollar investment in Breitbart News and is one of Trump’s biggest financial supporters. The two yachts remain near each other through the weekend.

    Oligarch Is in North Carolina at the Same Time as Trump

    According to reporting by MSNBC, the plane belonging to the Russian oligarch who had bought a Florida residence from Trump for $95 million in 2008,
    During the 2016 presidential campaign, Rybolovlev’s private jet appeared periodically at sites where Trump was holding rallies.

    ** Rybolovlev, a multibillionaire who was an early investor in one of the world’s most lucrative fertilizer companies, bought a Palm Beach property from Trump for $95 million in 2008, two years after Trump had put it on the market for $125 million (after purchasing it for $41 million in 2004.)

    2008 was a rough year for Trump. According to PolitiFact, that was the year Trump Entertainment Resorts missed a $53.1 million bond interest payment and filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy to reorganize.
    Rybolovlev has never lived in the mansion and has since torn it down. Both he and Trump have insisted that they never met at any point during the historic transaction

    Rybolovlev’s cash infusion into Trump’s bank account is believed to be the most expensive home sale in US history. At that point, big banks were highly reluctant to loan to Trump, who had lost them money, as he wrote in his 2007 book, “Think Big: Make it Happen in Business and Life.”

    “I figured it was the bank’s problem, not mine,” Trump wrote, according to The New York Times. “What the hell did I care? I actually told one bank, ‘I told you you shouldn’t have loaned me that money. I told you the goddamn deal was no good.’”

    **Reports over the past few days have also shone light on ties between Rybolovlev and Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross. As of 2013, Rybolovlev owned the largest share in the Bank of Cyprus — roughly 9.9%. One year later, Ross bought out the Cypriot bank from Russian oligarchs who were accused of using it to move their money to offshore accounts. At the time, Cyprus banks held $8.5 billion to $37 billion worth of Russian money, according to a German intelligence report cited by Der Spiegel.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/white-house-trump-rybolovlev-russia-conspiracy-2017-3

    In September 1995, Evgeny Panteleymonov, Director of Neftekhimik, a company partly owned by Rybolovlev, was shot by a killer at the staircase of his own house. In May 1996, Rybolovlev was officially indicted and arrested for the contract killing of Panteleymonov. According to the prosecution, Rybolovlev himself, “without a corresponding license”, purchased in August 1995 two pistols that he kept and carried, and later gave to the killers “for the premeditated murder of Panteleymonov”.
    Rybolovlev was however set free 11 months later, after the only living witness recanted his testimony and the intervention in Rybolovlev’s favor of Andrey Pokhmelkin, brother of Vladimir Pokhmelkin, a prominent congressman representing Perm District in the Duma, as well as of local Governor Gennady Igumnov

    Trump is as dirty as Clinton….get over it…they’re all dirty.

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    Trump is as dirty as Clinton….get over it…they’re all dirty.

     

    (sigh) Sad but true.
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  98. @renfro
    Trump’s babysitter…?

    Oligarch Is in Las Vegas at the Same Time as Trump

    According to reporting by MSNBC’s the $100 million plane belonging to the Russian oligarch who had bought a Florida residence from Trump for $95 million in 2008 —
    Dmitry Rybolovlev is a Russian oligarch who in 2008 paid $95 million for a house that Trump had purchased three years earlier for $41 million. During the 2016 presidential campaign, Rybolovlev’s private jet appeared periodically at sites where Trump was holding rallies.

    Oligarch in Miami the Same Weekend Trump

    On the Friday preceding Donald Trump’s weekend at Mar-a-Lago, the plane belonging to the Russian oligarch who had bought a Florida residence from Trump for $95 million in 2008,
    Dmitry Rybolovlev is a Russian oligarch who in 2008 paid $95 million for a house that Trump had purchased three years earlier for $41 million. During the 2016 presidential campaign, Rybolovlev’s private jet appeared periodically at sites where Trump was holding rallies..

    Oligarch Visits British Virgin Islands at Same Time as Breitbart Investor

    Dmitry Rybolovlev is anchored within a few hundred feet of Robert Mercer’s luxury yacht. Mercer has a multimillion-dollar investment in Breitbart News and is one of Trump’s biggest financial supporters. The two yachts remain near each other through the weekend.


    Oligarch Is in North Carolina at the Same Time as Trump

    According to reporting by MSNBC, the plane belonging to the Russian oligarch who had bought a Florida residence from Trump for $95 million in 2008,
    During the 2016 presidential campaign, Rybolovlev’s private jet appeared periodically at sites where Trump was holding rallies.

    ** Rybolovlev, a multibillionaire who was an early investor in one of the world’s most lucrative fertilizer companies, bought a Palm Beach property from Trump for $95 million in 2008, two years after Trump had put it on the market for $125 million (after purchasing it for $41 million in 2004.)

    2008 was a rough year for Trump. According to PolitiFact, that was the year Trump Entertainment Resorts missed a $53.1 million bond interest payment and filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy to reorganize.
    Rybolovlev has never lived in the mansion and has since torn it down. Both he and Trump have insisted that they never met at any point during the historic transaction

    Rybolovlev’s cash infusion into Trump’s bank account is believed to be the most expensive home sale in US history. At that point, big banks were highly reluctant to loan to Trump, who had lost them money, as he wrote in his 2007 book, “Think Big: Make it Happen in Business and Life.”

    “I figured it was the bank’s problem, not mine,” Trump wrote, according to The New York Times. “What the hell did I care? I actually told one bank, ‘I told you you shouldn’t have loaned me that money. I told you the goddamn deal was no good.'”

    **Reports over the past few days have also shone light on ties between Rybolovlev and Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross. As of 2013, Rybolovlev owned the largest share in the Bank of Cyprus — roughly 9.9%. One year later, Ross bought out the Cypriot bank from Russian oligarchs who were accused of using it to move their money to offshore accounts. At the time, Cyprus banks held $8.5 billion to $37 billion worth of Russian money, according to a German intelligence report cited by Der Spiegel.
    http://www.businessinsider.com/white-house-trump-rybolovlev-russia-conspiracy-2017-3

    In September 1995, Evgeny Panteleymonov, Director of Neftekhimik, a company partly owned by Rybolovlev, was shot by a killer at the staircase of his own house. In May 1996, Rybolovlev was officially indicted and arrested for the contract killing of Panteleymonov. According to the prosecution, Rybolovlev himself, “without a corresponding license”, purchased in August 1995 two pistols that he kept and carried, and later gave to the killers “for the premeditated murder of Panteleymonov”.
    Rybolovlev was however set free 11 months later, after the only living witness recanted his testimony and the intervention in Rybolovlev’s favor of Andrey Pokhmelkin, brother of Vladimir Pokhmelkin, a prominent congressman representing Perm District in the Duma, as well as of local Governor Gennady Igumnov

    Trump is as dirty as Clinton....get over it...they're all dirty.

    Trump is as dirty as Clinton….get over it…they’re all dirty.

    (sigh) Sad but true.

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  99. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Trump has kept nearly all of his promises to the elites:

    Lied and said he would end useless wars, but has jacked them all up

    Said he would make super rich Japan and South Korea pay for the US for protecting them from evil North Korea, what he really meant was more of your tax dollars go to the war profiteers.

    Appointed and defers to all the war criminals and banksters.

    Gets widespread coverage as a “racist” while the country goes into the toilet.

    The rich get ever richer and the poor are told more crumbs are coming any day now.

    Russia-gate is a fake attempt to attack from the right, but Trump is preferred by Democrats too.

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    You are showing really to be a true master of English language. You are also showing remarkable logic.
    But I do not think that you are a living in US. Because you are not showing correct priorities of facts, and also some of your facts are dicey.
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  100. @Wally
    You're truly making no sense again.

    And still dodging.

    You lost.

    You seem to be expert in these matters.
    Please!
    I do have big favor to ask from you.
    It is concerning dates.
    When Hitler attacked Poland.
    When the military campaign ended.
    Date of Katin massacre.
    Date of Hitler speech.
    Date of German divisions entering Serbia to suppress the uprising
    Date of leaving.
    Date of German army crossing Russia border.

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  101. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Anonymous
    Why do fearful children still imagine Trump is their savior? Only slaves support the Government, democrat or republican. Only zombie slaves can't recognize their own slavery. Smarter slaves see it. Only a coward who loves the troops and the cops and Big Government in general and thinks of himself as a free person imagines Trump will save him and make things "great again"

    Why do fearful children still imagine Trump is their savior?

    Don’t ask me. First, I’m not a child. Second, I’m not an American. Third, I’m not expecting Trump to save me. Fourth, like H.L. Mencken, I attend to the unfolding of events in the US of A as one might attend to the glitter of a seven-ring circus. Whether Trump’s America will end with armageddon, or the restoration of some semblance of sanity, decency, and military effectiveness, remains to be seen. But it is, in my view, at least a marginally open question.

    So far, Trump has, as promised, removed tens of millions of the lowest paid workers from the tax rolls. He’s also slashed taxes for the rich, thereby creating a huge deficit, which, if he is smart, he will eliminate by firing half the public service, folks like Strzok and Page included. Meantime he seems to be making some effort to fulfill his promise to restore the US border, which would surely be a good thing for the working people who voted for him.

    Most Americans, it seems, view political issues in strictly binary terms. Trump is obviously not as pure in heart as Jesus Christ, therefore he must be bad in every respect: a dopey view, it seems to me. But having led the world in mass higher education, America seems to have reached the point at which few know how to think.

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  102. @Anonymous
    Trump has kept nearly all of his promises to the elites:

    Lied and said he would end useless wars, but has jacked them all up

    Said he would make super rich Japan and South Korea pay for the US for protecting them from evil North Korea, what he really meant was more of your tax dollars go to the war profiteers.

    Appointed and defers to all the war criminals and banksters.

    Gets widespread coverage as a "racist" while the country goes into the toilet.

    The rich get ever richer and the poor are told more crumbs are coming any day now.

    Russia-gate is a fake attempt to attack from the right, but Trump is preferred by Democrats too.

    You are showing really to be a true master of English language. You are also showing remarkable logic.
    But I do not think that you are a living in US. Because you are not showing correct priorities of facts, and also some of your facts are dicey.

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  103. KenH says:

    The FBI is supposed to be apolitical, but increasingly the FBI leadership are taking sides in the political disputes and discord engulfing the nation or are outright political whores and ideologues. I don’t think many rank and file agents are much better, so it’s time to radically reform the FBI. Their new charter should be very limited in scope to things such as missing and exploited children, white collar crimes and crimes that cross state lines.

    They’ve been granted too much power in our open ended and phony “war on terror” which some used in the campaign to undermine and destroy the Trump campaign and now presidency. The maxim that power corrupts is on display.

    The fact that nothing like this was organized against a fire breathing left wing radical like Hussein Obama tells me the FBI has gone totally SJW while we were sleeping.

    Not only does the FBI do a terrible job of preventing terrorist attacks with the sweeping power they’ve been given, but they’ve now become a threat to civil liberties.

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    it’s time to radically reform the FBI
     
    Why not just shut it down. That would send a compelling signal to every bureaucrat across the nation.
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  104. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @KenH
    The FBI is supposed to be apolitical, but increasingly the FBI leadership are taking sides in the political disputes and discord engulfing the nation or are outright political whores and ideologues. I don't think many rank and file agents are much better, so it's time to radically reform the FBI. Their new charter should be very limited in scope to things such as missing and exploited children, white collar crimes and crimes that cross state lines.

    They've been granted too much power in our open ended and phony "war on terror" which some used in the campaign to undermine and destroy the Trump campaign and now presidency. The maxim that power corrupts is on display.

    The fact that nothing like this was organized against a fire breathing left wing radical like Hussein Obama tells me the FBI has gone totally SJW while we were sleeping.

    Not only does the FBI do a terrible job of preventing terrorist attacks with the sweeping power they've been given, but they've now become a threat to civil liberties.

    it’s time to radically reform the FBI

    Why not just shut it down. That would send a compelling signal to every bureaucrat across the nation.

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    Why not just shut it down. That would send a compelling signal to every bureaucrat across the nation.
     
    I'm not opposed to that. They should have been shut down long ago based on their criminal and dishonorable actions at Ruby Ridge and Waco and their persecution and harassment of innocent men like Richard Jewell, Ken Hatfill and probably many others.
    , @Twodees Partain
    My sentiment exactly. The FBI wasn't needed when it was formed. It has never been anything but a secret police bureau and was, for most of its history (1924-1972), the private information collection agency of one man. J Edgar Hoover used the bureau to collect information on politicians for blackmail purposes in order to satisfy his own desire to exercise power.

    After Hoover's tenure, the FBI became a secret police agency which was theoretically under the control of the president via his power to appoint its director, but it has become apparent that a director under one president can become a disloyal rogue under a new president. An FBI director can also simply be a rogue for hire to anyone willing to pay him.

    The FBI is touted by Congress as a independent agency, as though that is a good feature. That independence is what makes it fearsome and a menace to our rights.

    OK, somebody give me a hand climbing down from this soapbox.
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  105. KenH says:
    @CanSpeccy

    it’s time to radically reform the FBI
     
    Why not just shut it down. That would send a compelling signal to every bureaucrat across the nation.

    Why not just shut it down. That would send a compelling signal to every bureaucrat across the nation.

    I’m not opposed to that. They should have been shut down long ago based on their criminal and dishonorable actions at Ruby Ridge and Waco and their persecution and harassment of innocent men like Richard Jewell, Ken Hatfill and probably many others.

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  106. @CanSpeccy

    it’s time to radically reform the FBI
     
    Why not just shut it down. That would send a compelling signal to every bureaucrat across the nation.

    My sentiment exactly. The FBI wasn’t needed when it was formed. It has never been anything but a secret police bureau and was, for most of its history (1924-1972), the private information collection agency of one man. J Edgar Hoover used the bureau to collect information on politicians for blackmail purposes in order to satisfy his own desire to exercise power.

    After Hoover’s tenure, the FBI became a secret police agency which was theoretically under the control of the president via his power to appoint its director, but it has become apparent that a director under one president can become a disloyal rogue under a new president. An FBI director can also simply be a rogue for hire to anyone willing to pay him.

    The FBI is touted by Congress as a independent agency, as though that is a good feature. That independence is what makes it fearsome and a menace to our rights.

    OK, somebody give me a hand climbing down from this soapbox.

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  107. MarkinLA says:
    @The Alarmist
    To pick up on that, most US lawyers are actually rather un-creative. I have crossed swords with litigators who are quite creative and bold, but for the most part a US lawyer will read the statute and conclude, "Oh well, the facts don't fit the requirements of the statute" while the body of common law suggests there is ample room to manoeuvre.

    You haven't lived until a court voids a certified cheque to your client because a US lawyer has argued that you are not a holder in due course; meanwhile, government lawyers say, "Oh well, it was only carelessness, so we cannot really pursue the matter."

    One word: "P***ies." Oh wait, "Traitors" or "Accomplices" might apply.

    There was never going to be a prosecution of Hillary no matter what. Comey and company had to make sure of that. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Comey team passed information to Hillary’s lawyers to coach her on what to say when she was interviewed.

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  108. MarkinLA says:
    @renfro
    Back to the matter at hand......

    I do not think Mueller can get Trump on collusion with Russia.....specifically because there was no collusion with the Kremlin/official Government.
    Instead there were a lot of contacts with individual Russians seeking to get a deal on something to boost their own Russian creds with Putin or for their own private financial gain. Also outreach by Kushner to Russian money men and bankers for his 1 billion in debt.

    Mueller has a better chance of getting Trump on obstruction of justice and maybe lying to the FBI because Trump, in the coming trump- Mueller interview, doesn't know what Mueller may already know from his interviews with others so if he spins and lies he's toast.

    I don't care about Trump being impeached as much as I care about removing Kushner. Kushner is dirtier than pig shit and using his position to trade influence for money for the Kushners in every foreign contact he makes.

    Trumps relationship with Kushner is beyond weird, really, really weird....something ties them together and I would bet money that's its being party to money laundering thru their real estate deals and loans. Trump cant be the genius he claims to be, and claims Jared is. and they not know all the money flowing to them from Russian oligarchs and other known money movers isn't dirty as hell.

    The problem with so called “dirty money” is that it may not be dirty in Russia. If it is not associated with drugs or some other universally illegal activity, there may be no real crime committed other than the usual stuff of squirreling money offshore that all the superrich do.

    In addition, the wealthy always make deals with each other that usually don’t get much press. Remember all those sweetheart deals Warren Buffet got in 2008 providing private money to corporations on the verge of bankruptcy. Nobody else got those deals and the shareholders got screwed comparatively.

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    To give you an idea of the kinds of money.

    https://newrepublic.com/article/143586/trumps-russian-laundromat-trump-tower-luxury-high-rises-dirty-money-international-crime-syndicate
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  109. renfro says:
    @MarkinLA
    The problem with so called "dirty money" is that it may not be dirty in Russia. If it is not associated with drugs or some other universally illegal activity, there may be no real crime committed other than the usual stuff of squirreling money offshore that all the superrich do.

    In addition, the wealthy always make deals with each other that usually don't get much press. Remember all those sweetheart deals Warren Buffet got in 2008 providing private money to corporations on the verge of bankruptcy. Nobody else got those deals and the shareholders got screwed comparatively.
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  110. @The Alarmist

    "The official unemployment rate has utterly dropped."
     
    There, fixed it for you. But it does appear that some of the circa 90m to 100m who are qualified for the US labour force but not participating in it, and are therefore not reflected in the official unemployment rate, are coming off the sidelines as the economy warms up.

    Think how many more might start working again if the Trump administration were allowed to build the wall and enforce our immigration laws instead of being sidetracked with "fairness" for the DACA kiddies and DREEEEEEMERZ, not to mention the other 25m illegal aliens, who are here taking jobs and welfare benefits away from deserving American poor people.

    #StopTheInvasion

    Think how many more would be employed if the money Trump wants to spend on a wall went to bridges and roads.

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