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I moved to Santiago, Chile during the Obama years: 2012, to be exact. I believed, as did many others, that the real financial reckoning was still to come, that race relations would worsen (bullseye there and then some!!), and that other countries were better prospects as havens for individual freedoms than a U.S. in decline. While we looked at several places (New Zealand, Belize, Costa Rica, Panama), we kept returning to Chile because of the first world infrastructure of its major cities, its gringo-friendliness, its strong economy, and its political stability. I promoted Chile as such. (Go here and here; be amused.)

Libertarians in particular were soon investing in a planned community, Galt’s Gulch Chile, buying tracts of land to be developed. The first sign that GGC had gone off the rails was here. To this day I am grateful I got cold feet and refused to involve myself with what was either a scam from the get-go or the misguided idealism of the clueless. Whatever the original intent, the Libs couldn’t keep it from turning into a scam when one of their own turned out to be a grade-A sociopath. (Uh, anarchists: nuisance though it is, and full of scammers in its own right, we kinda need at least limited government as our only means of dealing with “private” scam artists and preventing as many disputes as possible from turning into shooting matches.)

That whistle was blown in 2014, on a project that was not possible to begin with, because even the Chile of 2014 was not a “free market” society. And from the look of things now, Chile was never as it appeared. The country is a place of phenomenal beauty, with an abundance of natural resources. It is also a place of breathtakingly inefficient bureaucracy sandbagging all its institutions. This last would have driven me back to the States just in time for the start of the Trump era except for one thing: I’d met the woman who became my wife. That means a lot! It kept me here …

Now it’s 2021 and for over a year we’ve had the disquieting sense of having become nonconsenting participants in a nationwide laboratory experiment.

Perhaps the real experiment began decades before, in the 1970s, when the Chicago Boys were green-lighted by the Pinochet dictatorship to set up their proposed economic paradise built on the principles of Friedmania, otherwise known as neoliberalism.

This, over the years that ensued especially after Pinochet stepped down, created the “Chilean miracle” that enticed my Libertarian friends and me. Now the question is embarrassingly obvious: were we really so stupid and naïve that we couldn’t distinguish libertarianism from neoliberalism? Or were we just blinded by the natural beauty we saw here, plus the fact that majority of Chileans are genuinely nice people?

When I finally swallowed the red pill regarding Chile and woke up in the Atacama Desert of the Real, what I saw was just another vassal state of GloboCorp — albeit a stunningly successful one!

Who or what is GloboCorp? Is there really such an entity? You’re kidding me, right? GloboCorp (short for globalist corporatism, for anyone who’s spent the last 50 years in a cave) consists of the 300 – 400 extended families who run the world. The ownership class, in other words, owning/controlling well over half the world’s wealth, beginning with leviathan investment banks and central banks; the CIA, other spook agencies; defense contractors and the war machine generally; “think tanks” such as the Atlantic Council, the Trilateral Commission, etc.; corporate media; Big Pharma, Big Tech. Then there are the several thousand administrators and technocrats under those top families, with thousands more functionaries including bought political classes, Ivy League academics, and presstitutes as Paul Craig Roberts calls them. GloboCorp’s hubs are in obvious places: Wall Street, Tel Aviv, the City of London, Basel and Davos, Brussels, Dubai, Singapore, Silicon Valley, probably Beijing, etc. I could name names, but it would take too long. Many are obvious. So I’ll just say, Yes, Thomas Dalton, there is a disproportionately large number of Jews in GloboCorp’s upper echelons and leave it at that for now.

• • •

Now, though — understatement of this article — we have a major problem on our hands: the so-called pandemic. The timing of this catastrophe ought to be of great interest to everyone: it hit after (1) multiple efforts to dislodge Donald Trump by GloboCorp lackeys in Congress and U.S. intel agencies went down in flames; (2) we red-pilled types increased in numbers and influence all over the world; therefore (3) “populist” leaders and movements were rising in stature despite fierce opposition from “official” political classes, academic “experts,” and presstitutes, all of whose credibility had fallen like boulders off steep cliffs (unsurprising since they never told the truth about anything).

The long and short of it: a dozen or so GloboCorp families own Chile lock, stock, and barrel, and have at least since the Pinochet era. There was pushback here, as there was elsewhere. Covid-19(84) came here as it did elsewhere, and for more than a year now, this country of just over 19 million has been descending into a totalitarian hellscape.

Moreover, one of the world’s most aggressive mass vaccination campaigns began here shortly after the start of this year. As of April 21, around 13 million Chileans had gotten the jab (while the rate varies with availability, somewhere around 135,000 are jabbed per day). The most interesting fact about Chile now is the explosion of new cases of Covid. We’re talking in the 6,000 – 7,000 range per day, and between 100 and 150 deaths per day attributed to Covid.

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These were blamed initially on people mixing and mingling carelessly, maskless, during vacations, as February — mid-summer in Chile — is the traditional vacation month. But it’s late April now, and thousands of new cases are still coming apace. With that earlier narrative straining credibility, authorities blame “clandestine parties” of mask-free young people not observing “social distancing guidelines.” (Just to note, in the past year I’ve seen a grand total of five people outdoors mask free, including an afternoon my wife and I spent at the beach with dozens of people around us.)

What no one is saying is that this “new wave” of cases and deaths is consistent with what has happened everywhere that has launched mass campaigns jabbing its people with experimental mRNA vaccines. The State of Michigan is an example, with its Democrat governor-dictator Gretchen Whitmer. The state has a high vax rate, and an overwhelmed medical system on the verge of collapse.

Much of Chile had been in various degrees of lockdown for a year. The Sebastian Piñera regime, trying to appear on top of things in the wake of the unrest that began in October 2019 (more on this below), instituted ways to lock down even harder, working through the country’s health department and mass media. Yes, chilluns, we have our very own minor-league Tony Fauci. His name is Enrique Paris, and he directs the Minsterio de Salud de Chile (MINSAL), a cabinet-level office in the Chilean government.

The harder lockdown that began on April 1 has made international travel (hardly straightforward since this began) a nightmare even for citizens and foreign residents. If you’re not in either group and insane enough to want to come here, forget it. You’re not getting in. Any citizen(s) or resident(s) coming in is/are forcibly quarantined for five days in a hotel at his/her/their expense even with a negative (notoriously unreliable) PCR test, then given another (unreliable) PCR test at the end of the five days. This is a strong disincentive from traveling internationally, which is the point, I think. GloboCorp doesn’t want us peasants moving around freely like so many of us have in the roaring 2000s!

We (wife and I) had plans to leave Chile permanently last year, but the combination of contractual requirements to vacate our condo as of such-and-such a day coupled with the closed borders of our target nation derailed our plans (the health ministry there had also drank the Kool-aide). We ended up with my wife’s mother and sister until we could line up another place and figure our next move. Some friends tell me we should have taken the riots of 2019 as our cue: it was time to leave. Mea culpa.

When those began, Piñera declared an Estado de Emergencia (State of Emergency) which included toque de quedas (curfews). What the regime learned: curfews enforced with threats of jail time kept peasants as well as hooligans off the streets.

When Covid came, curfews became semi-permanent. The recent mania escalated our status to an Estado de Catástrofe (State of Catastrophe).

Author and financial advisor Simon Black, who has a residence here, took this announcement as his cue to be on the next flight out (he went to Mexico).

For it compels the question: if existing measures all fail (because their premises are false), is the next step Estado de Sitio (State of Siege), which would basically involve full-blown military junta-style martial law?

• • •

If you are in Chile, here is what you go through to go anywhere:

You obtain a permiso off a carabinero (police) website. Print it or save it in your phone. It lists your name, Chilean ID number (foreigners with permanent residency can use a passport number), age, address and comuna, and destination(s). You get two per week. Up until recently you were allowed three hours out per permiso, which means you had six hours of free movement per week to get groceries, do your banking, go to a government office, etc. (these being “essential” operations open for business). Thanks to maximum capacity rules and the above-mentioned inefficiency, you could easily spend the bulk of your free time standing in line outdoors.

Security personnel of robotic demeanor guard entrances and inspect your permiso. They then direct you to a device to take your temperature: the sort of contraption that could easily transition to something able to read an implanted chip. Most folks would never notice the difference.

At the start of this month, free time per permiso was lowered to two hours. I can’t help but wonder if someone was trying to find out how much these people would put up with. Would a reduction in outdoor free time by a third arouse resistance? Nope. I’ve heard barely a proletarian whimper! (Oh, you are allowed walks outdoors from 6 – 9 am.)

How much will Chileans put up with? Some “guidelines” are patently absurd, with no legitimate scientific backing whatever. My wife and I encountered one just this morning as I write this: a three-person limit max on large mall elevators. We had gotten on, and an elderly couple was behind us. I thought: why not? I beckoned them to go ahead and get on. They started to. An enforcer (more on them below, too) appeared instantly and barked, “!Sólo tres personnes!” (“Three persons only!”)

I said gruffly, “¡Esto es estúpido!” (“This is stupid!”)

The enforcer looked at me in shock. Clearly she’d heard no one say anything against these stupid rules before. But being a gringo from a culture that values freedom and frowns on mindless compliance, I was not going to stand there and say nothing!

But welcome to Chile, where checkpoints have now been established at toll booths on “private” highways (of which — thanks to neoliberal pseudo-privatization — there are many) so carabineros can see “Your papers please!” I was in one of these, and the traffic-back-up was a sight to behold!

(Lockdowns are logistically impossible in a first world society for reasons anyone with a functioning brain ought to be able to discern: people need to obtain food or have it delivered, which means workers need to be in stores to supply it; medical centers and government offices need to be in operation; people have health and other emergencies; water mains break and need immediate repair; the enforcers themselves have to be out and about. This is not to mention the well-documented spikes in domestic violence, other crimes, substance abuse, depression, and suicide.)

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The rules keep changing, of course, in a fashion recalling the dystopian novel Brazil (1985). This creates a nightmare for those of us who try to plan in advance, including still strategizing to leave the country with our belongings which in my case include a substantial library. Constantly changing rules cause confusion and lead to paralysis. Again, I am sure this is the intent.

• • •

The unrest of ’19 — the worst in Chile since the Pinochet era — had been muted through an agreement to convene a constitutional commission to write a new constitution for the country. The existing constitution dates from the (despised) Pinochet era.

Commission members still have to be voted on, though. With the recent spike in Covid cases, the Chilean Senate postponed the vote. Since some of the issues that provoked the unrest were legitimate, and there is the possibility that a new constitution might cost the GloboCorp families in Chile some of their power, the government has every incentive to milk the Covid mania for all it is worth (“Never let a good crisis go to waste” does translate into Spanish!).

Piñera could be described as Chile’s George W. Bush — an affable fellow who sports the same sheepish, aw-shucks grin, and a GloboCorp lackey in good standing; like Bush, he knew from the start who would butter his bread. Many rioters were leftists who targeted him as Public Enemy #1 — their “populist” side rejected Chile’s vassal-state status. Neoliberalism’s primary dynamic, many of us had figured out, is that of a welfare state in reverse. It establishes winner-take-all systems and redistributes wealth upward. (Piñera made his personal fortune introducing credit cards into the country and getting Chileans addicted to debt. Surprise, surprise: there is even less financial literacy here than in the States.)

The best issue for the protesters was Chile’s “privatized” retirement pension system, the AFP (Administradora de Fondo de Pensiones) which every working Chilean pays into. This enabled the corrupt corporation managing the money to gam— I mean, invest it.

Wages remained low in Chile despite the first world appearance; the median wage here is less than half the median wage in the U.S. A middle class had developed, but it was small, and very loyal to “the system.” Upon retirement, when Chileans who earned survivable wages went to collect, the result was often under $250/month in U.S. dollars. This guaranteed retirees a downward spiral into poverty unless they had working family members they could move in with.

A Chilean whom I was tutoring in English late in 2019 walked me through how the AFP calculated pensions. I had him do it twice, to make sure I understood him correctly.

The calculation factored in a payout period of 40 years! When the retiree died (obviously, duh, long before he or she had been collecting for 40 years), the corporation simply pocketed the rest of the money. So yes, Chileans were being systematically ripped off. They had been putting up with this rotten system for years!

(By the way, many conservatives and Libertarians infatuated with the words private and privatized have praised this system!)

Hard experience ought to tell us: the more abuse a people will tolerate, the greater the abuse that will be inflicted on them!

Chileans have a great hesitancy to question authority, or challenge power. This hesitancy is built into the culture, and is now working against them.

And contrary to one myth, leftists tend to be allies of power, not challengers of it. The local lefties became part of the vanguard of Covid enforcers. Their criticism of Piñera is not that his regime is too strict with lockdowns but that it is too lax!

And there are plenty of enforcers of the sort I encountered. Those still able to work in “essential” activities are probably told by their superiors to order the sheeple to position their masks properly, and stand where they are supposed to stand to observe “social distancing guidelines” (there are even directions pasted on floors everywhere!). They don’t wear their politics on their sleeves.

The irony is that all this has reinforced the pretext for postponing the constitutional commission vote, thus delayed the authoring of the new constitution that the unrest of ’19 was supposed to have been about.

So much for those Molotov cocktails tossed into Metro stations!

And what was that about, anyway? Wasn’t it quite out of character for this place?

Yes, by and large, it was, and one reason for the violence back in 2019, obvious in retrospect, is that the prime movers came from outside the country. There are, of course, Communists in South America who know how to exploit a legitimate issue for all the mileage they can get out of it. That was true with race in the U.S., where relations were destroyed by Jewish cultural Marxists, and it was true with neoliberal “privatization” and redistribution-of-wealth upwards here (Friedman was also Jewish, was he not? The prime movers of the Austrian economics behind at least some Libertarianism — Mises, Hayek, Rothbard — were all Jews. Ayn Rand was Jewish. Small wonder we goyim had trouble telling the ideologies apart before we wised up.)

A primary reason for the present conformism is that there is no alternative media to speak of in Chile. The Internet may be ubiquitous here just like in the U.S. But nearly all alternative media is in English, and despite efforts to bring about a more bilingual Chile, no more than around 5 percent of Chileans can read English well enough to understand it. Hence information is even more centralized than in the U.S. Its sources — major television outlets (including a Spanish-edition CNN) and the nation’s dominant newspaper, El Mercurio — serve the kind of unquestioning obedience that enabled the AFP to sustain its scam for as long as it did (it also dates to the Pinochet era and was designed by one José Piñera — yep, the current president’s brother).

Now, mass obedience is sustaining the lockdowns and the dangerous mass vax campaign.

• • •

So where are we at?

Chile exemplifies principles that are actually quite simple. (1) Those with power will do what they can get away with, no more, no less. In Chile, they have learned they can get away with a lot. (2) The most effective instrument for guaranteeing compliance is fear.

This last is hardly news, of course. Eons ago, we learned one historically important way masses are drawn to support “their” governments’ wars through inciting in them fear:

“Why, of course, the people don’t want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece?… Naturally, the common people don’t want war, neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany…. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship…. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in every country.”

— Hermann Goering in his cell being interviewed by G.M. Gilbert at the Nuremberg trials, 18 April, 1946

The means have changed dramatically. Nukes made open warfare between global powers obsolete (one hopes!), and with the end of Soviet Communism, other means of bringing about desired mass behavior through fear were sought.

The “war on terror” strained credibility, even for products of America’s public schools (though I can certify: Chilean public schools are worse!).

“Man-made climate change” is too abstract a notion. Too many people don’t buy it.

But a virus?

That’s a whole ‘nother animal! Unlike climate change, a virus is easily portrayed as an immediate personal threat! Even one with a survival rate of over 99.5 percent for everyone not in a nursing home or with pre-existing conditions, so long as controlled media conveniently forget this little factoid.

All that it has taken, in every country, is every dominant news outlet hammering the threat of sickness and death 24/7, presenting figures night and day, accompanied with scary images of people in protective suits bearing caskets.

In Chile, this has worked splendidly!

A virus, moreover, has its own built-in “unpredictability,” since viruses do mutate (“second wave,” “third wave,” and beyond). Hence the ongoing scares about Covid variants and the ever-changing dictates.

Naturally, the Chilean economy, once lionized as “miraculous,” is now a complete shambles! Tens of thousands of small businesses are everywhere shuttered, many permanently. Malls are deserted. (Lider superstores — owned by Walmart billionaires — remain open. Of course. Redistribution of wealth upward, remember?)

A few folks have protested their inability to withdraw enough of their pensions to live on, in the face of being told by “their” government that the AFP well is not bottomless. Some have even been arrested for protesting outdoors without permisos. I guess hunger will sometimes motivate people to grow a pair.

• • •

In a sense, this has all been quite fascinating to watch — perhaps in the sense that a high-speed train wreck can be fascinating to watch.

Never before had I observed, from the inside, a neoliberal political economy first lose credibility as its scams were found out and challenged — a process then interrupted by what may turn out to be the biggest power grab in human history: the proposed Great Reset being passed off by some of GloboCorp’s key voices as the answer to all our problems and the path to a technocrat’s Utopia.

Chile may well be next in line for an Israeli-style “green passport” system likely to include vaccine passports (and incidentally, yes, Israel has its hooks in Chile; are you surprised?). Vaccine passports have met resistance elsewhere, although I am sure we will see them because the ownership class wants them. Whatever the vaccines do (and who really knows what the long term effects are going to be? Depopulation?), passports are magnificent pathways to population control in the meantime. Based on what I have seen, the idea might even receive thunderous applause here! Chile’s masses will have been told by “their” government and media that they can get back to “their” lives and start rebuilding “their” economy.

In sum: the country I embraced in 2012 has gone from fake economic miracle to all-too-real medical dictatorship: one of the places GloboCorp selected to let us goyim peons know who’s really calling the shots. Doubtless Chile is on the radar because it still has all those natural resources to plunder (copper, lumber, saltpeter, etc.) and a mostly clueless populace who believe they live in a democracy and are persuaded that a new constitution will solve their problems. In fairness, most Americans believe they live in a democracy despite the Andes-sized mountains of evidence to the contrary.

Populism was the idea, roughly conceived, that institutions of civil society ought to answer to the people, not simply (further) enrich a handful of unaccountable power elites. But given the effectiveness of the past year’s fear-based campaigns of terror, good luck with that — in Chile or anywhere else.

STEVEN YATES has a PhD in philosophy. He escaped from American academia in 2012 and is now an author, freelance copywriter, and ghostwriter living in Chile. His latest book is entitled What Should Philosophy Do? A Theory and will be published by Wipf and Stock later this year. He is married to a Chilean. He and his wife have no children but two cats.

 
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  1. Boss Hogg says:

    I live here. Nine years. It is worse than the author writes. Do not even think of moving here. If you live here get OUT of Santiago and all the other principal cities in the 15 regions. Move to an isolated rural community. You will live more humbly but life is still more or less normal and maskless there, at least for now. It makes no sense to move to another country, except maybe Belarus, which ironically seems to have the most freedom loving populist government at this time. But seriously, no one can escape the coming fuedal nightmare. However, if you are far from government in an isolated rural area you buy your self some time and a simpler, humble life. That is not bad.

  2. Thomasina says:

    Exceptionally well-written article! Such a good read. The picture you paint is frightening because I thought at least a country like Chile wouldn’t have been cracked down on so hard. I was wrong. You are so right about “fear”. You can get away with practically anything when you use this tactic.

    “So much for those Molotov cocktails tossed into Metro stations! And what was that about, anyway? Wasn’t it quite out of character for this place?”

    Yes, out of character. Just like the so-called “insurrection” at the Capitol on January 6th. All planned and orchestrated, just like the Plandemic.

    Write more in the future and let us know what’s going on. Take care, and good luck.

  3. this is why national IQ is more important than GDP per capita, on paper Chileans have higher IQ than Brazilians, but that is bullshit. Brazilians have a higher IQ as demonstrated by their industrial and agricultural prowess. I would make the same argument for Mexico except that it is close to the U.S and former capital of New Spain, so its mighty industry might partially due to that.

    In regards to Brazil, lots of American white nationalist present Brazil as an example of the U.S’s dark future. But the U.Statians of the future will be wishing there were born in Brazil. Race relations and economic conditions are better in Brazil.

    disclaimer, I have never been to Brazil. but I Would love to be enlightened by any Brazilian UNZ readers.

  4. @Boss Hogg

    Why would you ever want urban capitalism back when this is all over? Liberalist ideology inevitably leads to globalism, and capitalism is founded on liberalist ideology.

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  5. tyrone says:

    ” it hit after (1) multiple efforts to dislodge Donald Trump by Globo(homo)Corp lackeys in Congress and U.S. intel agencies went down in flames;”…….. BINGO!!!!…BULLSEYE!….YOU NAILED IT!…..I added the (homo) in there I didn’t think you would mind.

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  6. Boss Hogg says:
    @Yellowface Anon

    I don’t know what ‘urban capitalism’ is and I did not mention capitalism in my comment.

    Chile has never had capitalism and there are no pure capitalist countries remaining anywhere in the world.

    Capitalism was founded on republican constitutional principles and took the US literally from the poorest nation in the world to the wealthiest, and created the middle class. Now the world is under the yoke of jewish central banks and the people are reduced to serfs.

    What you fail to understand is that this will never be all over.

  7. I’ll bet they realize how great Pinochet was NOW!!!!

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  8. JasonT says:

    This is a powerful article spelling out quite clearly the doom that we are all facing.

  9. @JasonT

    This is a powerful article spelling out quite clearly the doom that we are all facing.

    Yes, the author made it quite clear that Chile is the WEF globalists’ leading-edge test bed for neo-feudalism.

  10. TG says:

    If nothing else I am heartened at a ‘libertarian’ realizing that allowing handful of super-rich people run everything is not actually paradise… at least, not for most of us…

  11. Those of us who read financial news sites, remember the way that ‘Sovereign Man’ advisor Simon Black noted above, and others, used to pump for Chile on ZeroHedge a great move-away-to-paradise locale … Puerto Rico now still sometimes touted as a similar ‘smart destination’, as well as Mexico

    When the fact is that, in Latin America, the wheel of history often turns quickly

    Regarding the Chilean pension system implemented under the rule of Pinochet 1973-90, some of the core idea was positive, that of giving workers the feeling of investment in the companies for which they worked, to discourage the endless economy-wrecking impulse toward strikes and labour actions which used to so afflict many countries

    But it seems the Chilean system foundered over, first of all, never having adequately simplified a system with too many ‘options’ and ‘plans’, amongst which workers really had no informed capability to choose –

    And secondly, old-fashioned bureaucracy and corruption, siphoning off for ‘administration’ the funds which should have gone to workers … obviously it’s too late to fix it all now

  12. Mikael_ says:

    Thanks, Steven.

    Two notes:
    1. I realized a few years ago that every country which cannot fully militarily defend itself, is a vassal of the USA respectively GlobCorp. That leaves two groups of countries to emigrate to, for truly fleeing it’s influence: Russia, China, (and maybe North Korea) in that group; and all the fully-protected-by-those which currently is Belarus, and maybe shortly joined by Iran.

    2. I haven’t read any of your books. Lumping together of Mises and Friedman here while on the other hand correctly recognizing “leftist” power grabbers, shows mostly your confusion to me.
    If you ever want to -philosophically- get to the bottom of this, read “The Crisis of Modernity”, a collection of Auguste Del Noce’s essays. My favorite is his essay ‘The Question of Violence.’

    • Agree: Sarah
  13. Thank you very much Dr. Yates. Also be advised that I rarely address anyone without a prescription pad as Doctor.

  14. Jim Dorchak says: • Website
    @Boss Hogg

    I agree with Boss Hog.
    There is really no place perfect but out here in the campo it is closer to heaven and no masks.

  15. @Mikael_

    You’re welcome.

    The “lumping” of Mises and Friedman was unintentional; obviously they’re very different though there are commonalities of terminology. But sorting out the various strains of Austrian from neoliberal thought was outside my central focus. I had to hope readers would figure it out.

    I really came in here to thank you for the Auguste Del Noce reference. I was not familiar with his work. But anyone who writes a tract called “The Crisis of Modernity” ought to be on our radar. That book is definitely on my reading list now!

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  16. @Steven Yates

    I thought the same and found a link.
    https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctt130hcmr

    Thank you for an excellent, if very depressing piece.

  17. @WhiteWinger

    Pinochet was a Jew puppet, same as all the rest

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  18. Greg S. says:

    Fantastic article, and I agree very much with the point that COVID-19 was and is the response to populism. The timing was just a little bit too perfect to coincide with the Trump re-election, and aligned a just a little too perfectly with the other globalist agendas.

    >And contrary to one myth, leftists tend to be allies of power, not challengers of it. The local lefties became part of the vanguard of Covid enforcers. Their criticism of Piñera is not that his regime is too strict with lockdowns but that it is too lax!

    It’s the same all over the world. This has been a big eye-opener for me as well from the pandemic: totalitarians are pretty much always on the left. There are a number of psychological reasons for this, but the main reasons are actually practical ones: you cannot enforce tyranny on a unwilling populace, or play dirty tricks, or run bio-labs, or wage wars, or do anything evil without a huge government apparatus. Just try and found your tyrannical state on true free-market, small-government principles. Not only will be there no one to set up the prison camp or guard it, it couldn’t even get built in the first place.

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  19. TKK says:
    @Mikael_

    If you think emigrating to North Korea is a good idea ( or even a viable one) I am deeply troubled that you could be so naive. NK propanganda is false in only that it does not go far enough to expose the horror of the world’s largest slave labor camp.

    Start with these books:

    Without You, There is No Us” Suki Kim

    Every Falling Star” SungJu Lee

    Kim Jong is an enthusiastic patron of the GloboCorp. He sells NK labor slaves to them in Dubia, Russia, China and Africa and takes their pay while they live in huts and starve.

    He is an enthusiastic connoisseur of every luxury product known under the sun, from Chanel to Wagu Beef to Domaine Leroy wines.

    Putin, though admirable as the last Alpha Male standing, is up to his elbows in deals with Big Money.

    Iran is a hellscape of theology thugs that the common people hate. China is oppressive and does NOT respect foreigners ( unless you play basketball and support BLM) and only making money matters.

    Belarus is run by a megalomanic.

    I also believed lower South America…Chile and Argentina …… especially the Patagonia region, would be a possible escape destination. I am grateful to this author and would like to read more.

    We are not so lucky as the black and brown Muslim hustlers because the forests of Norway and Finland would be about the safest place to go.

    But we would not be granted asylum.

    However, I am working with a group of lawyer who are preparing to petition Sweden for asylum for a man being politically persecuted for attending the January 6 rally. I don’t trust a hope.

    • Agree: Rich
    • Troll: Sarah
    • Replies: @Sarah
    , @Vostok
    , @Montefrío
  20. Terrorist Ziocorporate globalism is quite syncretic and not more Jewish than it is catholic, protestant, islamist, atheist, satanist or whatever, and not more American than EUropean or British.

    Anyone still believing the Trumpet was their enemy rather than their puppet is completely deluded and that delusion distorts any message to get across. The very idea of Kushner’s daddy-in-law being against Ziocorporate globalism is hilarious, much more than TPTB’s “anti-Trump” intrigues. Even Putin and Xi play “business” and “free market” mostly by long-established globalist rules.

    Chile was turned by globalism into a superstar with lotsa bling-bling to cover all of its defects, and forced into rehab when an example needs to be made out of it, another testing ground for the next transhumanist phase of the New World Order.

    • Agree: HeebHunter
    • Troll: ivegotrythm
  21. Muchas gracias, Steven Yates.

    Parenthetically, abundant history suggests that the instigators of violence in 2019 are likely to have been locals allied with the “forces of order” — agents provocateurs.

    *

    It’s a rare pleasure to see a “libertarian” begin to get a clue about socio-economic realities such as these:

    ALL property and property relations are contrived and established in law and enforced by the state. “Private” is a hoax. Without the state, “private” property of every kind has no status at all.

    Private capital beyond a certain margin above median (say five times) serves no good purpose and no purpose at all besides enabling economic vampirism and bullying and and socio-psychological abuse (status bullying).

    The notion that individual rewards are proportional to individual merits or ability or performance is — in the real world — blithering nonsense.

    Every human achievement stands on the shoulders of over 100,000 years of accumulating craft. The idea that any performance or achievement is truly “individual” is more blithering nonsense.

    *

    Your definition of “populism” is admirable. Consider further: A republic is “populist” by definition. That’s what the word means: “res publica” — the “commonwealth,” the “business” of the “people,” the “public,” the “populace” as a whole. A “republic” that is not in fact, in action, in policy and in behavior, “populist,” is not a republic. Usually, as in America, it is an oligarchy in a quasi-constitutional mask.

    Originally (in Aristotle’s Politics, Polybius, and others) the term is defined by a specific contrast with other forms of government control and decision making about “affairs” (res) which are by nature “public” — in particular monarchy and oligarchy. Among Greek city states in the pre-classical and classical era, the age of kingship was over and their governments typically trended back and forth between democracies (“populist” by definition — rule by the demos, the populi) and oligarchies (rule by the “few” — hoi oligoi — always gangs of the wealthy, mostly hereditary, frequently but not always with pretensions to “aristocratic” birth (old money, that is).

    Often oligarchies met their end at the hands of what conservative, oligarchic historians and theorists called “tyrants”. “Tyrants” by definition were populists. Their role was to rally the demos (the people) against the oligarchs to terminate their rule (that is, they were, by definition, “demagogues” — ‘leaders of the people”). Usually the first result was democracy. Sometimes it was a long term of rule by a “tyrant” which tended only to survive as long as he served popular interests. Sometimes the “tyrant” turned out to be the representative of an alternate gang or faction of oligarchs, who soon enough installed themselves in power (this scenario is a frequent feature of Latin American history).

    *

    But I digress. Thanks again, Steve. More would be welcome.

    • Thanks: Freedomstillisntfree
  22. Well, just another piece of empirical evidence that proves what a autistic, retarded mental rot Lolberturdianism is.

    Best of luck to you. Hope you wake up for real now.
    Remember, ALL -ism but National Socialism and Fascism are KIKED. Anything that is kiked can’t be good.

  23. Dr Picard says:
    @Boss Hogg

    The middle class only exists due to the us destroying europe and japan in ww2 and having no industrial competition for quite a few years

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @Boss Hogg
  24. @Boss Hogg

    Capitalism was founded on republican constitutional principles and took the US literally from the poorest nation in the world to the wealthiest, and created the middle class

    Nothing about being the single biggest piece of New World land with all the resources you needed was inportant. Sure. Sure.

    • Replies: @Boss Hogg
  25. @Boss Hogg

    Capitalism is a form of cancer, insatiably aggressive and expansionist, its hosts the Earth and humanity, and its adherents little metastases.

    • Agree: Thim
  26. @Jim Dorchak

    No-one should wear masks outdoors, unless in a thick crowd in a country with a rampant epidemic. And then mostly to avoid contaminating others, and for the peace of mind of the rattled.

    • Disagree: Sarah
  27. @brabantian

    Prtivatised pensions are everywhere and always simply mechanisms for the financial parasites to suck the blood of the serfs.

  28. Panadechi says:

    It should be added that Chile was a highly homogeneous country (without blacks), since the second Bachelet government (seven years ago), it imported hundreds of thousands of Haitians illegally, and Piñera brought millions of Afro-Caribbean illegally, now Chile has 3 million immigrants illegal, salaries have dropped by 50%, favelas have appeared all over the country, and Caribbean black crime has skyrocketed infinitely.

    • Thanks: Sarah
    • Replies: @Truth
    , @Memejon
    , @Alden
  29. gT says:
    @Mikael_

    First, to the author, excellent article. Nice concept that of GloboCorp (Globalist Corporation). Every third world country is completely controlled by GloboCorp, if any country there doesn’t play ball, its government gets changed.

    And GloboCorp wants everything privatised, taken away from ownership of the people so that the people can be controlled. Also correct that its the culture in Chile which is so compliant, thats why the West has to go, its culture is not subservient enough, presents too much danger to GloboCorp and to that nation / tribe which constitutes the majority of the upper echelons of GloboCorp. That is why the Karlegi Plan is necessary for GloboCorp.

    Yes Mikael, the Russians admit that if it wasn’t for their Army they would have to comply with GloboCorp. Russia’s sovereignty is a major stumbling block for GloboCorp’s global agenda. Its just freaks GloboCorp out, that while they are weakening and destroying nations and peoples and getting closer to the One World Government, Russia just keeps on getting stronger and building yet more powerful and capable missiles, tanks and planes. And this will continue irrespective of what happens globally, because Russia is now completely self sufficient in all its requirements, the perfect war economy.

    Conceivably the next plan for Chile is rations, with food being restricted so that the people can be slowly starved and so achieve GloboCorp’s depopulation aims. No middle class, only aristos and serfs, and the serfs won’t need marriage or law or education, they must only obey, or else. Those in the city will be organized into war parties to liberate resources from the selfish rural dwelling folk, before any cross border actions are initiated. The paedophilic aristos, including all those in GloboCorp, are going to have a field day.

    • Replies: @JohnPlywood
    , @Garliv
  30. Bravo Steve. Splendid job. I lived in SA for five years, and sorry Chile was already one of the worst places. The best place was maybe the state of Parana in Brazil, a kind of tropical Bavaria. With money you could live in autarcia in a hacienda here and there. But the coup was planned well, and we cannot escape the 300 who rule the world. Only violence could save us, but we are too dead and coward.

  31. Chilling. Again, the lynchpin includes the media. Makes me wanna holler

  32. Address says:

    This article underscores that there is very little chance of physical escape from “GloboCorp”. The human condition is pathetic and the sociopaths will win again, as always.

    A new global dark age is coming and will soon be upon us. It is inevitable and it will be due to the obscene concentration of wealth, i.e. power and influence, concentrated in just a few human hands without any accountability or means of address.

    Until this primate behavior is put into check, there will be no human evolution, just the same sad cycle repeating over and over again with no avenue of escape. The Buddhists call it samsara. Yet it is real and it is here now one more time again.

    • Replies: @Freedomstillisntfree
  33. Vojkan says:

    Could it be that mRNA vaccines cause an immunity overreaction in some people and that their organisms end up battling themselves, not a virus that, mind you, has never actually been isolated? Could it be that post-jab Covid cases aren’t actual Covid cases but are considered such because of the way tests work and because communicating on the vaccine’s efficiency rate is less damaging than communicating on its toxicity rate?

    • Agree: Peripatetic Itch, Alfred
    • Replies: @Maowasayali
    , @some_loon
  34. Levtraro says:

    Great article, thank you.

    The Chilean pension system, which has received fairly good press in the West, is probably the most blatant case of confiscation of private property of the masses for the elites (or reverse welfare as you aptly call it). It works by forcing every salaried worker to choose a private fund (among options all owned by the Families) and then taking a percentage of his/her monthly salary before it is paid to the worker and putting it in a personal account at the private fund. The salaried worker cannot touch that money until he/she retires (although COVID has forced the hand of government and despite protests of the private fund owners it has allowed to take some money from it) and the conditions of payment have been well described by Michael, very good conditions for the private fund owners, very bad for the retirees.

    The Chilean private health insurance system is another jewel. Essentially, there are experts working in the government calculating how much defunded the public pension system must be in order to force all workers up a certain income threshold to stay paying insurance to the private health insurance companies (owned by the Families, of course). Private health services providers on the other hand, make every effort to apply the most expensive treatments to collect as much as possible from health insurance companies and co-payments by the client.

    Chicago boys had to explain the economic logic of neoliberalism to Pinochet, but Pinochet was a very modest person in the intelligence department, a truly and deeply simple man, an ambitious mediocrity (he didn’t lead the coup btw, he jumped on the bandwagon once he noted it was succeeding, later proceeding to remove the other generals and admirals because he was army, somehow having precedence over navy, air force and police). So the Boys told him bluntly: “the State has to help the rich get richer, because the rich know how to make more money” and thereby provided the shortest and aptest definition of neoliberalism. Neolibs like to pretend they love the free market but what they really love is a big, powerful and intefering State that works for the already wealthy and then freezes socio-economic mobility.

    • Agree: Alfred, Alden
    • Thanks: Thim, RadicalCenter
  35. Levtraro says:
    @Levtraro

    … have been well described by Michael, ..

    Sorry, I mean to say the author, Steven.

  36. I hope that Michigan’s dictator-chic, G. Whitmer or Ohio’s Mike Dewine are not reading this. “Hey, why didn’t we think of this? Covid-19, the gift that keeps on giving.”

  37. It would be easy to say this is Chile just being Chile, but an iron curtain has descended upon the Western World.

    In the ‘80s I stood Point Alpha on the Western side of what the DDR called the anti-fascist defense rampart and peered into the land of the oppressed, sure in the belief that I was a man of the free world.

    In 2004, while being hassled by an obnoxious TSA clerk, I jokingly told her that it was easier for me to transit the DDR to West Berlin than it was to get through America’s airports (the Sovs at the border checkpoints never asked me to remove my shoes and belt). That joke almost cost me my flight that day.

    We could kind of sense after 2001 that the world was flipping, but now it is now clear that it has. Anyone who thinks there is a blue pill available in all this — that if they just accept the lockdowns, vaxxes, and vaxx passports and everything will be just fine — is seriously in denial.

    Karma is a bitch.

    • Replies: @Anon
  38. @Mikael_

    Don’t bother fleeing to any of those countries… they don’t want or need or even trust refugees from the decadent West.

    The winning move is to join the Party and be the best commie you can be.

  39. Lee says:

    From the article…………

    If you are in Chile, here is what you go through to go anywhere:

    You obtain a permiso off a carabinero (police) website. Print it or save it in your phone. It lists your name, Chilean ID number (foreigners with permanent residency can use a passport number), age, address and comuna, and destination(s). You get two per week.

    The Philippines has reportedly had the longest lockdown of any country in the world.In the first few months of the lockdown if you were over 60 or under 16 you simply couldn’t leave the house.Local officials reportedly nailed or welded peoples doors/gates shut from the outside.Scofflaws were often beaten—a few to death or put into dog cages for extended periods of time.One official, after noting that a gay man was in a group of offenders ordered that they all publicly simulate homosexual acts with each other.

    In my case every member of my family fell into one of these categories—over 60 or under 16.How you were to pay bills or buy groceries was never explained.Local officials never check on our situation because of their open disdain for foreigners. Some people relied on family members for this type of help——-my wife’s family lives 30 Km away by design—–it makes it a bit tougher for them to steal from us.So my wife who is in her mid 60’s with a heart condition had to run all the family errands.Myself and the 15 year old niece got caught every time that we tried.

    So a country of 110M was shutdown completely for months while to date only 15K people have died from covid. Most of them I would guess were older people with preexisting conditions as per the norm worldwide.Detailed numbers about covid deaths have been never published that I have ever seen———-no doubt to help continue to keep its citizens under the governments thumb.

    To all the America bashers on this MB and others, I would suggest living in a 3rd world country for a time to see how bad it truly can be.

    • Thanks: Sarah, some_loon
    • Replies: @Thim
  40. Yo says:

    Thanks to the author. This article was balm to my soul. I have been writing about Chile for years, mostly for myself and most of those times with tears in my eyes. Never daring to say out loud everything I lived and learned there for 6 years.

    I have been talking about the downfall of Chile for a decade and I have been regarded as a hysterical woman. I have no PhD, masters degree on politics or economics, all I have is my common sense to rely on and I´m happy to say today it never failed me.

    I am venezuelan, was living in Europe for several years before moving to Chile in 2011 (turning 24) with the idea that I was in a new paradise and I could grow and make a life there. Soon I realized it was all a lie, I had made the worst mistake of my life, I traded a life in Europe and Australia where I already had a path and opportunities for what?? Everything in Chile was and still is fake!

    Chileans are nice? Yes, I agree, my father and all his family are chileans who ran away to Venezuela during Pinochet.

    But I could add to this article the questioning of “the nice” people, like everyone in the rest of the world we are/can be born being inherently good and are shaped by our enviroment, so what are the consequences of a neoliberal system on a society´s mental health?

    Back then I came to realize how this entire society was (still is) damage at a very deep level. The author here says: Chileans have a great hesitancy to question authority, or challenge power. This hesitancy is built into the culture, and is now working against them.”

    It is true!!!!! And its sad! Really sad!

    When you see how they allow abuse from other people in every area of their lives, whether it´s their boss, mother, father, children, brothers, anyone, there is no doubt that politicians will take advantage too.

    I have never allowed people to step over me and I don´t manipulate nor abuse other people, this very normal, good, human behavior got me in a lot of trouble with chileans, they are not used to people telling them to their faces what the limits are, and they are not capable of putting limits for themselves!!! It´s as if they love to live in a constant cycle of abuse where they are victims and also perpetrators.

    Speaking +3 languages, having work experience in different continents all withing the Hotel and Restaurant industry, I ended up working for minimum wage at the biggest casino in Viña del Mar.
    My experience, knowledge and problem solving alone was beyond half of the staff there and I was quickly recognized by my superiors and diminished by my peers.

    You see… If managers like you then “you are like them, you have money, you are rich, therefore a bad abusive person” This is what every chilean mind thinks.

    Money = Power = Rich = Bad, abusers (Weones culiaos)
    No Money = No Power = Poor = Good, honorable (Weones buena tela)

    I was a problem for a chilean mind: I play the piano, I speak fluent french and I skied in the French Alps, I had been in too many countries for their likes, that meant I was rich and bad. So far from the truth…

    In the mean time, I scaled faster than anyone working there for years, I was 25 and in charge of 120 people. They were all so afraid of me, just because I had the “Manager post” and could fire them.

    I´m a super empath but I still had to work my way into their hearts and earn their trust. Soon they were looking forward to spend more time with me only because I smiled and I was focused on team work and support more than money results. Either way, I always got my results always putting humans at the center of the work.

    All this inner work to confront my superiors, defend the people I was in charge and try to build a life in Chile hiding who I really was because I wasn´t accepted in the society took a heavy toll on me, I ended up like most of chileans, needing therapy. I was questioning what kind of life that was, was it worth living?

    Is it really worth to have a clean, neat country on the surface but a broken society all in the name of economic growth?

    Since 2011 I wondered why people didn´t say anything about what was going on, prices in the supermarket where higher than France with a quarter of the salary! I was shocked the first time I went to get groceries and the first red flag that something really wrong was going on there. Flash-forward 10 years and the situation is still the same.

    I was ready to leave in 2013 but I too fell in love, I endured another 4 years and in 2017 left the country desperately. My husband and I lived in Huechuraba, a middle class neighborhood in the North of Santiago, the day I started hearing about ” a burglar breaking into houses near by” or “a shooting near the mall” I said to him: “We are moving from here and out of the country, because this is how the downfall in Caracas started and I won´t go through this again, people move neighborhoods in the hope that things will be better until thiefs and murderers arrive and then what? move again to a “better” neighborhood?”

    I was shocked and happy when in 2019 there were (finally!!!) riots, but I also agree with the author, nothing will change, they think a new constitution will make things better when there will only be new people giving orders in favor of a small new group.

    The people, the entire society has to change first, but they really don´t care about change, as long as they have enough money to buy meat and chorizo for their weekend ritual “asado” that´s all they need, want and expect from life…

    There is no future for growth in Chile under this conditions, you can make money, yes, but we humans need more than money to really prosper and live fulfilled lives.

    I feel a lot of compassion for chileans who are very ignorant of whats going on in the country, I feel compassion for all those Venezuelans, and other South Americans who looking for opportunities have landed in this mess…

    • Thanks: Alfred, niceland
    • Replies: @Rumpelstiltskin
  41. As bad as thing are getting here in the US, it’s clear to me that our freedoms and our Constitution, while bending and cracking, are in fact holding back the unimaginably evil tide that is sinking Chili and most other counties under the weight of the covid regime’s totalitarianism. By comparison to this Global Tyranny and the communist agenda of communist China, free America stand tall.

    • Replies: @Irish Savant
  42. Miro23 says:

    Chile is clearly in trouble – in fact most places are. But at least there’s a gradient of ZioGlob/Corporate/Globalist/MSM/CIA (or whatever you want to call it) influence around the world.

    The Build Back Better mantra (parroted by Western leaders) isn’t so strong in some places. For example the (manufactured) Covid-19 panic in the US state by state:

    Reflects the Nationalist vs. Woke division. In Europe there’s an Eastern Europe vs. Western Europe split over nationality and immigration. And Russia and China explicitly reject the NWO (Davos oligarch project).

    In fact, it looks like time for nationalists to implement their own “Build Back Better”.

    US states collect evidence of the true risks of Covid-19 (plenty now available on death rates – face mask efficacy etc.) – put it in an easy to read package – and deliver it to every state resident. Also broadcast it. The basic idea is to disconnect from Washington in all aspects and build state independence (especially media and banking).

    Ditto with Europe. European states reexamine their relationship with the US/EU Parliament and start making decisions that reject the Davos Globalists (for example Nord Stream 2 and co-operation with Russia).

    These are big moves that require commitment and many small steps – basically throwing sand in the NWO machine – then replacing it with genuine state/national interests.

    • Agree: Alfred
    • Thanks: Sarah
  43. Sarah says:
    @Mikael_

    .

    I realized a few years ago that every country which cannot fully militarily defend itself, is a vassal of the USA respectively GlobCorp. That leaves two groups of countries to emigrate to, for truly fleeing it’s influence: Russia, China, (and maybe North Korea) in that group; and all the fully-protected-by-those which currently is Belarus, and maybe shortly joined by Iran.

    Correct.

  44. Sarah says:
    @TKK

    If you think emigrating to North Korea is a good idea ( or even a viable one) I am deeply troubled that you could be so naive. NK propanganda is false in only that it does not go far enough to expose the horror of the world’s largest slave labor camp.

    Start with these books:

    “Without You, There is No Us” Suki Kim

    “Every Falling Star” SungJu Lee

    Kim Jong is an enthusiastic patron of the GloboCorp. He sells NK labor slaves to them in Dubia, Russia, China and Africa and takes their pay while they live in huts and starve.

    He is an enthusiastic connoisseur of every luxury product known under the sun, from Chanel to Wagu Beef to Domaine Leroy wines.

    Putin, though admirable as the last Alpha Male standing, is up to his elbows in deals with Big Money.

    Iran is a hellscape of theology thugs that the common people hate. China is oppressive and does NOT respect foreigners ( unless you play basketball and support BLM) and only making money matters.

    Belarus is run by a megalomanic.

    I also believed lower South America…Chile and Argentina …… especially the Patagonia region, would be a possible escape destination. I am grateful to this author and would like to read more.

    We are not so lucky as the black and brown Muslim hustlers because the forests of Norway and Finland would be about the safest place to go.

    But we would not be granted asylum.

    However, I am working with a group of lawyer who are preparing to petition Sweden for asylum for a man being politically persecuted for attending the January 6 rally. I don’t trust a hope.

    Pure propagandpropaganda and trolling.

    • Disagree: Rich
  45. Interestingly, there were about four hundred powerful slaveholding families who controlled the old South, and look what happened to them. No wonder old Abe is still persona non grata in some circles. First they try to take over the federal government, fail, then break away, and fail – and then, slowly, quietly they wormed their way into power, through the back door, in time taking over their ancient adversary the Republican Party to turn the country into a tyrannical oligarchy of wealth run like a plantation from the good old days.

    The best article I’ve seen that summarizes how they did this is online at https://www.salon.com/2012/07/01/southern_values_revived/

    I also find it amusing that “libertarians” are actually mouthing essential liberal principles when they demand smaller government. This analysis appeared in the June 1937 issue of Der Schulungsbrief, “Since liberalism believes in the sanctity and limitless reasoning power of the individual, it denies the state’s right to rule and its duty to direct society. To liberalism, the state is nothing more than the personification of every unjust use of force. It therefore seeks to reduce the authority of the state in every way.” Well, congratulations, on enabling the replacement of government of, by, and for the people with government of, by, and for the elite.

  46. Sarah says:
    @Boss Hogg

    Move to an isolated rural community. You will live more humbly but life is still more or less normal

    Good idea, not only for Chile but for all western countries.

    • Agree: 3g4me
    • Disagree: JohnPlywood
  47. Levtraro says:
    @brabantian

    Regarding the Chilean pension system implemented under the rule of Pinochet 1973-90, some of the core idea was positive, that of giving workers the feeling of investment in the companies for which they worked, to discourage the endless economy-wrecking impulse toward strikes and labour actions which used to so afflict many countries.

    No. That was/is not the idea. Workers were/are not allowed to invest their forced savings in their own company. The State just took the forced savings and put them in a generalized private investment fund where brokers decided were to invest the moneys. Workers have a choice among 5 risk-brackets but after deciding for one of those brackets, their moneys could well end up in the NY stock exchange, for all they know.

  48. Biff says:

    That is quite the horror story. I’ve tried Latin America a few times and simply gave up; it wasn’t the fault of that area, it was just my happenstance fate of dumb luck to run into psycho women and shiester dumb shits that chased me back north. Sometimes bad luck can keep you out of trouble you may never have seen coming – well that’s how I like to look at it.

    But I did get out of “totalitarian ready – all you need is a spooky virus” USA, before the hammer dropped. And beat the woke wave of insanity by a few years too. Nestled in the rural hills of SE Asia where nothing has changed much at all over the past few years. Checked in to a local private hospital last week for back surgery(ruptured disc) and practically had the place to myself – no COVID problems at all. Surgery kicked my ass, and I’m hoping to walk normally again sometime next week(fingers crossed).

    Nevertheless, I would really love to hear updates about your plight in Chile.

  49. [W]e kept returning to Chile because of the first world infrastructure of its major cities, its gringo-friendliness, its strong economy, and its political stability.

    It’s hard for most gringos to accept the fundamental truth of the age: as the seat of the GloboHomo Empire, the US really is the Great Satan. Ruled by “liberals”, it serves as the worldwide advocate and thuggish enforcer of “liberal” ideology, taking the side of death, destruction, falsehood, and filth on all issues, all the way, all the time. By extension, no country that is willing to become a province of the GloboHomo Empire is a good country. A country can only be a good country to the extent that it is inimical to GloboHomo. You have to admire the integrity of Iran, which refuses even to host one of the nest of spies, international busybodies, and predatory sodomites that is a US embassy. By contrast, as the cognitively dissonant author himself writes, Chile is in thrall to the (((Chicago Boys))). The Skinny Country is, in fact, an exceptionally loyal province of GloboHomo. How could he have expected anything different?

  50. Z-man says:

    I gotta ask, what makes and how does someone named Steven Yates move down to Chile? I would think that first you have to have a lot of money or know how to stretch a dollar. Then you have to have a love interest of whatever kind down there, and so on. Curious minds want to know. (Grin)
    As for me, I’ve been to Argentina and that’s where I’d move if I had a lot of money and a love interest that made me go back there in the first place way back when. (Grin) Otherwise I’d go to Italy and fight the hordes coming up from Africa. I might still do the latter even without money.

  51. @Boss Hogg

    Capitalism is the vampire usury pretending to be about free markets. It is not. It is about creating corporate feudalism that serves the penultimate central banking king of the independent London. The only free markets remaining is the black market, yard sales, and a few flea markets. Sadly flea markets are on the state’s radar. I’m sure the covid cops will be shutting down yard sales for violating something like zoning laws. Black market like drugs often benefits the CIA. Screw it all, and learn to barter.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
    , @Boss Hogg
  52. Exile says: • Website

    Building a community of libertarians is like building a house out of pudding.

    Libertarian individualism and community are almost perfect opposites. Libertarians are the least capable most inappropriate people on Earth for forming a community.

    Community requires a cooperative/synergistic (whole > sum of parts) mindset, altruistic morals, a willingness to sacrifice and goodwill toward others.

    Out of any group of libertarians, there are maybe 1 in 100 who are self-regulating enough to make functional members of a decent community. The rest will simply work the edges and arbitrage the goodwill of others until they are kicked out or the community fails entirely.

    Almost every decent libertarian has already leveled up to some kind of Third Position authoritarianism. When you realize that what you hate isn’t “government,” but rather “government by people who hate you,” you see how impractical and anti-human libertarian individualism really is and you will never look at it the same way again.

    • Agree: FvS
    • Thanks: HeebHunter
  53. Mefobills says:

    Below link is Hudson warning about Chile back in 2003.

    Jews operate as agents of mammon, taking usury on whole populations. Whatever ideology is created by our (((friends))) is automatically suspect, especially including libertarianism, or lolberturdianism as HeebHunter calls it. Neo-liberalism is a product of the Chicago School.

    Where is onebornfree-dumb to defend lolberturdianism when you need him?

    Hudson as usual, by putting on his economic glasses, can see through the usury scams. Average people do not have this ability, and hence get taken for a ride. It actually takes an elite that cares about average people, hence national socialism, fascism, or some kingdoms are superior forms of government.

    https://michael-hudson.com/2003/10/chiles-failed-economic-laboratory/

    Neoliberals call Chile’s 1974-90 period a miracle, but it is best seen as what should have been a warning against imposing similar policies in other countries. Under what became known as the Washington Consensus the economy was subjected to totalitarian libertarian doctrine. Public enterprises were given away of to the junta’s supporters with virtually no money down. The result was mass bankruptcy, economic collapse, and a polarization of wealth and political power that transformed the country that had been one of Latin America’s most stable middle-class democracies.

    In the following interview, Michael Hudson elaborates on the (((Chicago Boys’ )))economic legacy and its continuing implications.

    I put parenthesis around Chicago Boys because Hudson cannot. It is up to us to decode his writings.

  54. Granted it’s colder, but wouldn’t Alaska be the best choice for escaping Americans?

    Yes you’d still be in the U.S. but there’s no new language/culture to navigate and you can work or start a business from day one. Alaska is a red state where you can get guns easily and the economy is free. The climate scares away almost all blacks and invaders.

    People seriously consider going to just as cold, but poorer and less developed Russia so why not Alaska?

    • Agree: Sarah
  55. Rich says:

    S America is the future of N America. As the US becomes more of a banana republic and more illegal aliens swarm into the country, poverty will become more rampant and the hungry will go all in for tyranny, if it means food and shelter. It would take a miracle to save this country now, and as the people sink lower and lower into deviancy and continue to abandon Christianity, I don’t expect to see many miracles.

    • Replies: @JohnPlywood
  56. Vostok says:
    @TKK

    Belarus might be ran by a megalomaniac but as I live here and enjoy a relatively free life, I can say it’s a damn sight better than any western or EU country right now. There never were lockdowns, and masks were only introduced in November last year after some likely serious elbow twisting by the IMF and WHO during the EU/US funded riots after the election.

    • Agree: GMC
  57. Marckus says:
    @anyone with a brain

    Stay out of the large Brazilian cities such as Rio or Sao Paolo. Head south to Florianopolis (beautiful beaches) Joinville, Pomerode, Blumenau in Santa Catarina State. Or head further south to Rio Grande do Sul State.

    Take the hair raising bus trip through the mountains from Florianopolis to San Joaquin

    These two states are very Germanic with high populations of Italians and Poles and few coloureds. The best time is say Oct to March which is their summer. Any other time of the year tends to be chilly requiring a sweater and perhaps a coat.

    The interior of these 2 states brings you to very rural areas. The beauty of Brazil is that you can disappear completely and Brazilians are far friendlier than the people of the surrounding Spanish countries who tend to be very reserved ! Accomodation is fairly inexpensive especially if you look for the family operated guest houses. In the winter months April-Sept (the non tourist season) prices are generally rock bottom

    In many areas the Police are non existent or invisible. Dont fuck around with them however or they will cap you with cameras rolling and a crowd around. However, remember to be INCONSPICUOUS ! Dress like a bum, fit in, see what the local people wear and imitate. A back pack is all you need. I can send you a clothing list of you want.

    If I can help in any other way let me know.

    • Thanks: anyone with a brain
    • Replies: @Truth
  58. Great read, thanks. I always referred to GloboCorp as Encorpera.

  59. @gT

    Argentina was already on the path to depopulation on its own, check out their abysmal fertility rates. The sickness is inside of you, every developed world human is born sick and evil. America didn’t put any sickness inside of anyone, you were always disgusting cucks and swine.

    • Troll: Clyde
    • Replies: @gT
  60. Mefobills says:
    @Old and Grumpy

    Capitalism is the vampire usury

    There are different kinds of capitalism.

    Finance Capital is mostly speculative “finance engineering” of the type Hudson explains in the link I posted above. Finance Capital tends to be issued by private banks at debt.

    Industrial Capital is created by a sovereign country, usually through a State Bank. The State Bank is the “credit of the country” meaning the people. State Credit then CHANNELS into industry and the commons.

    This then lifts all boats through improved industry. America got rich under Industrial Capitalism, but was subordinated by 1913 with Finance Capitalism.

    OK? Please do not just say the word “capitalism” without defining your terms. It is like saying the word color, without defining which color.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter, Biff
  61. Garliv says:
    @gT

    Every third world country is completely controlled by GloboCorp, if any country there doesn’t play ball, its government gets changed.

    Precisely. The situation in third world countries is simply too dire. Most of them are incompetently and corruptly ran and on top of that they have really have no capacity or wherewithal to chart a sensible economic policy outside of GloboCorp imposed neoliberalism. But the top local elite of third world countries have “special links” with GloboCorp mafia. They “sell” (they call it liberalizing economy!) their state owned companies/enterprises and valuable minerals to international crooks but they retain “some shares”. Thus a local corrupt wealthy clique is perpetuated. These are the elites who have political and state power and thus they IMPOSE the dictates of GloboCorp failure to regime change is effected.

    Additionally third world countries send their brightest kids to study at already compromised West universities where Chicago Boys version of economics is king. Thus even the local “educated intellectuals” have become unwitting implementers of GloboCorp agenda. Only PCR and Michael Hudson have severally pointed out this fact but they are just some shouts in the wilderness as even Russia and China send their students to study such. Soon or later even Russia and China may end up “selling” to the GloboCorp.

    • Replies: @stevennonemaker88
  62. @Rich

    Illegal aliens have been declining; most immigration to the USA has been high-skilled Asian legal immigration.

    Christianity, which itself is a form of deviancy, has been declining in Northwestern Europe for decades, and is associated with increased education, material wealth, and European ancesty. It’s people of color from third world countries who like the disgusting message of that religion.

    Predictably, the USA continues to ascend while Latin America stagnates and declines.

    • Agree: HbutnotG
    • Troll: Clyde
  63. Mefobills says:
    @Exile

    When you realize that what you hate isn’t “government,” but rather “government by people who hate you,” you see how impractical and anti-human libertarian individualism really is and you will never look at it the same way again.

    Exile, thank you for your insightful comments. Libertarians have proved to me that they are “individualists” who are personality defectives lacking in empathy. Lacking in empathy is a characteristic of a sociopath.

    Your description is much more complete and insightful. These defective anti-humans are attracted to an ideology created by our (((Friends))) who also are anti-human.

    • Thanks: HeebHunter, Pheasant
    • Replies: @HbutnotG
  64. republic says:
    @Boss Hogg

    The writer Whitney Webb lives in Temuco,Chile,she said on her Twitter feed of April 10,2021 that one cannot buy goods online deemed non essential by the government!

    • Replies: @Boss Hogg
  65. Marckus says:

    Well this is a classic example of what I bark about. The US has its problems but in running to another country we could jump from the fire to the frying pan. In my opinion, things are spooky these days and every individual should be doing a “what if” and planning for any eventuality. In my experience things tend to seem normal and change gradual but there is a cumulative effect and one day circumstances come to a sudden head. We then experience that feeling of “if only”. I would say that many things are obvious and there to see except we did not see them…until too late

    My own personal thoughts are:
    -Have few possessions and the ones you have you can dump without regret
    -You want to be mobile.
    -You have too many things if you cannot shift in 15 minutes in a sub-compact car
    -Move out of the big cities. Too many problems and too easy for the authorities to monitor
    -If you remain in the US, choose smallest town in a red state and move to a place outside of that town
    -Fly below the radar
    -If moving out of the country and to LAtin America do not move to Central America or small South American states. They are too easy to police and box in.
    -Central America especially will get hot if things boil over internationally. Think the Panama Canal
    -With the numerous wars in Central America the police and military have a lot of experience boxing up, isolating areas and conducting sweep and clear operations. In my opinion these countries are too small, too restricted geographically and as a white YOU will stand out !
    -My choice would be very rural areas in Brazil or Argentina. Get out your maps and study !
    -RENT until you are sure you want to stay there
    -As for permanent residence most South American countries will let you stay for 6 months. You can shift between them.

    The time to plan for an emergency is now. Speed, mobility and a plan. You may never need any but when you need them you need them.

    • Thanks: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @stevennonemaker88
  66. Exile says:
    @Johnny Smoggins

    Alaska is an option. Our group has focused on states like MT/WY/ID/NE/SD/ND and WV/TN/KY/MO/AK that form viable supermajority White regional blocs in the “continental” US, but Alaska has always been part of the discussion.

    • Agree: Sarah
  67. Truth says:

    Honkees always think they are going to beat the apocalypse by getting away from Honkees; good luck!

    • Replies: @Johnny Smoggins
  68. Truth says:
    @Dr Picard

    Interesting point. I’ve never considered that.

  69. Truth says:
    @Panadechi

    Oh, so the Hatians are forcing Chileans to adhere to hunger-games covid standards?

  70. Anon[771] • Disclaimer says:

    we kinda need at least limited government as our only means of dealing with “private” scam artists and preventing as many disputes as possible from turning into shooting matches.

    As opposed to the “public” scam of limited government that can turn into a bloody civil war where thousands or more can die? Great alternative to a few measly disputes between individuals you have there.

    Minarchists are more deluded than socialists.

  71. @Jim Dorchak

    Hello! Glad you’re doing well out in the campo! Un saludo cordial from your fellow-campo dweller in Argentina. All is well here as well.

  72. @TKK

    I live in Argentina, have done for the past seventeen years. I live in a rural area in the Province of Córdoba. I’ve been very fortunate and my son and his family (wife and three kids) now share the property. He is doing well with a water well drilling business for which prospects sem rosy. That said, immigrating to Argentina now is likely to be difficult without: a) being bilingual or at least fluent in Spanish; b) having capital and preferably passive income from elsewhere; c) having highly saleable professional skills; d) Argentine family; e) desire to assimilate rather than isolate in expat colonies; e) time to explore the area considered and learn the ins-and-outs before comminting.

    Abstract ideas do not a “homeland” make. Shit happens and how well one adapts is what counts once roots are planted. Avoid cities, avoid crowds.

  73. Memejon says:
    @Panadechi

    Why didn’t the writer mention that?

  74. Rich says:
    @JohnPlywood

    1. Illegal entry to the US declined during the Trump years and the initial Covid lockdows, it’s suddenly increased since the end of January.

    2. Before the acceptance of Christianity by Europe, it’s people lived in subjugation and at subsistence levels with few rights. Christianity strengthened the family and the rights of the poor. It was under the banner of Christianity that Europeans conquered the world and advanced science to never before seen levels. As Europeans abandon Christianity, they stop having children and will eventually be replaced by groups that have children. Besides the disgusting, depraved acts that are not only tolerated, but forced on the people by judicial fiat.

    3. Your dismissal of S America is just ignorance. S Americans can do most of the jobs N Americans can do, but because of corruption, their nations are held down. We’re getting that same treatment here. The son of the President of the United States was paid $80,000 a month by a foreign company and no one cares? Pelosi buys stock in a company that receives a government contract the next day? And on and on. Eventually S Americans might have it better han us.

    • Replies: @anon
  75. Truth says:
    @Marckus

    …You didn’t mention the mongering opportunities, Old Sport. This is an OWG (Old White Guy’s) site after all.

    And don’t be homophobic and only speak of the heterosexual ones, either.

    • Replies: @Malla
  76. Johan says:

    “GloboCorp doesn’t want us peasants moving around freely like so many of us have in the roaring 2000s!”

    I am not a member of GloboCorp as far as I know, but i’m happy the tourists have to stay home. I take it I do not have to give an elaborate description of tourist behaviour.. I’m actually not the only one. In the tourist city where I live there are loads of people sick of it, and they are having a break this year.
    Poor countries might still want to take you, they are in decline and have little else to depend on than selling their natural and cultural heritage to a mass of bored parasites. For the small crowd of non invasive and sensible cultural travellers it is a bummer that the elites are making an end to that part of the democratic mass orgy, I sympathize with them, but the masses and takeover elites decide in a democracy. This is what you have been voting for, by subscribing to democracy.

  77. @tyrone

    I find it most interesting that such a flawed president as Mr. Trump remains such a hero to populists the world over. Trump followed the proclamations of evil Dr. Fauci and scarf lady for months, only switching course in the last few months of his presidency. Trump is the father of Operation Warp Speed, now killing many vaccinated, and has recently said that those who are vaccine “hesitant” are idiots (I don’t know if that’s his exact word).

    Last summer Trump did nothing to stop the riots, putting all the blame on blue state governors and mayors, because they didn’t ask for his help. (As the nation’s Top Cop when it involves civil unrest, he had the constitutional authority to override them). Trump thought he had a winning campaign issue. He didn’t.

    Trump talked the talk on immigration but didn’t walk the walk. He proposed to end “birthright citizenship,” but, in the end, did nothing. Trump wasted his first two years, allowing open borders corporate shill Speaker Ryan to set the agenda. Once the democrats, under a witch named Pelosi, took control after the midterms, his promise to complete the wall evaporated.

    Yet, Trump was never one of them and was definitely NOT, a deep stater, so he had to go in a stolen election. He was slowing down the Gates/Schwab 2030 Agenda. The Great Reset can now move forward without delay on the shell of a soulless man named Biden.

    If Trump was the only world leader standing in their way, as Mr. Yates suggested, we are indeed F*cked! Amorphous Whites are obviously not presenting much of a problem to Corp. GloboHomo. Indeed, Trump’s theme song, which ended every one of his mega rallies, was the gay anthem “YMCA.”

    • Replies: @bike-anarkist
  78. @Truth

    I always thought it was spelled “honky”.

    Was it Chris Rock who lamented that the term just never really took off?

    “Nigger” is still the gold standard of racial insults.

  79. Wielgus says:

    Sounds like Pinochet’s time, perhaps with a touch of Aldous Huxley thrown in.

  80. You guys often talk about the GlobalCorp extended families. Is there anywhere on the internet where I can find a definitive list of these 200-300 families and all of the individuals that comprise them?

    • Replies: @hillaire
  81. Agent76 says:

    September 11, 1973 Chile and the United States: Declassified Documents Relating to the Military Coup by National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book No. 8

    Washington, D.C. – September 11, 1998 marks the twenty-fifth anniversary of the military coup led by General Augusto Pinochet. The violent overthrow of the democratically-elected Popular Unity government of Salvador Allende changed the course of the country that Chilean poet Pablo Neruda described as “a long petal of sea, wine and snow”; because of CIA covert intervention in Chile, and the repressive character of General Pinochet’s rule, the coup became the most notorious military takeover in the annals of Latin American history.

    https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu//NSAEBB/NSAEBB8/nsaebb8i.htm

    Sep 30, 2006 The Secret Government

    His documentary gives quite an overview of what has actually happened in the last 50 years regarding the CIA and the cold war (including Iran, Guatamala, Cuba, Viet Nam and Chile). He features such people as Ralph McGeehee and Phil Retinger (both former CIA agents), Rear Admiral Gene La Rocque (Ret. U.S.N.), Theodore Bissell (active in the CIA at the time), Sen. Frank Church and many others.

  82. @anyone with a brain

    Brazil has a very large population and its intellectual elite, although only a small fraction of the whole, amounts for a sizeable intelligent workforce in absolute numbers. You should check out the study “Considerations about IQ and human capital in Brazil”.

    They are the ones who carry this country on their backs and are concentrated in the southeastern and southern regions. As you might guess, these areas have the highest percentage of people of european descent (we have a large japanese diaspora too).

    Race relations are deteriorating due to constant race-baiting on mass media and the increasing radicalization of socialists. If socialists get back in power next year things will get bad, really bad.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  83. Sarah says:

    @Steven Yates (author)

    You could have added that efficient, cheap and short treatments for Covid-19 are FORBIDDEN in Chile.

  84. Dumbo says:
    @anyone with a brain

    In regards to Brazil, lots of American white nationalist present Brazil as an example of the U.S’s dark future. But the U.Statians of the future will be wishing there were born in Brazil. Race relations and economic conditions are better in Brazil.

    Well, it’s complicated. Yes, American WNs know in general very little about Brazil and imagine its population as a giant brown or black mass, but the truth is that Brazil has much more variety. Lots of descendants of Germans and Italians (especially in the South / South East) and increasingly a high number of Asians (Japanese in São Paulo, from older times, and more recently Korean).

    People tend to be friendly and there’s no much racial conflict (more regular crime), but, they are trying to push for that now, feminism too.

    Economy and industry were (in general) always better in Brazil than in Argentina or other Latin American countries, but I don’t think it’s about IQ (not everything is about IQ) but simply because the country has a lot of resources and a better infrastructure. Also, even if there’s a lot of corruption in politics, it tends to be slightly more efficient than in countries such as Argentina with their Peronism that leads to perennial lethargy (I don’t know about Chile).

    Still, there’s a problem of urban violence, the favelas and drug crime. Rio in particular I wouldn’t recommend, neither Sao Paulo, even though it’s the economic center. But smaller cities in the South and South East are still OK.

    I think, Southern Brazil, Uruguay, and some parts of Argentina (Patagonia) are probably the best parts in the region. I’ve heard good things about. Lima (Peru) too, but I’ve never been there.

    • Replies: @Anon
  85. Perhaps, instead of throwing molotov cocktails in the metro, the Chileans ought to think about killing the 2nd tier that enables the grifter class to rape and pillage the country… that will teach the bastards not to be too greedy!

  86. Tom Verso says:

    “…a dozen or so GloboCorp families own Chile lock, stock, and barrel, and have at least since the Pinochet era.

    “Chile is one of the places GloboCorp selected to let us goyim peons know who’s really calling the shots.

    So why don’t you name the families?

    Why speak in metaphoric terms like “GloboCorp”?

    Retorical question.

    The Americans who talk about “WallStreet” or “one-percenters” or “Oligarchy” or “The Media” or “The Leadership of the Democratic Party” or the “Military Industrial Complex” or etc.

    No one names names, They speak in metaphors,

    Why metaphors and not personal names”?

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @stevennonemaker88
  87. During Sebastián Piñera’s first presidential campaign in 2010, as a foreigner exploring the country via motorcycle, it was obvious something was very wrong. Along the countries carretera’s (motorways) which crossed vast agricultural land, you would see new billboards erected advertising growth in agriculture. Take a closer look at the base of these billboards and you can see the name Monsanto. Anyway, (((they))) have been privatising the land for a long time. Polluting the rivers, land and people for profit is par for the course.

  88. Johan says:

    GloboCorp doesn’t want us peasants moving around freely like so many of us have in the roaring 2000s!

    This must absolutely be the oldest trick from the book of demagogy. The haughty elites are oppressing us, we the just and righteous simple democratic people! or the communist people! Proletariat and peasants of the world, gather and revolt! Again the elites have sabotaged our roaring orgiastic utopia. It is not too late, we still have a memory of utopia!

  89. Alden says:
    @Tom Verso

    Copper mining is the biggest industry in Chile. Biggest mining consortium is Codelco, the Chilean government company. Makes much profit and wonder of wonders for a government agency pays income tax. A socialist Allende creation the Chicago School Econ 101ites didn’t meddle with. Another major copper mine operator is a Japanese corporation. Another is a British American company

    • Replies: @Tom Verso
  90. Alden says:
    @Boss Hogg

    When was the United States, the 13 English colonies and the Spanish and French colonies the poorest nation in the world?

    • Replies: @republic
    , @Boss Hogg
  91. @Brazilian Dude

    Keep Bolsonaro in Power! Of course, he could lose in a stolen election. Just ask Trump!

  92. AK Silver says:
    @Johnny Smoggins

    Well, mostly true. But, it is up to every individual, and Anchorage has been in full lock down.

    I won’t wear a mask, because it makes no logical sense to due so. But, I have often been the only person in a store without a mask, and have been asked to leave on occasion. So the list of businesses that I will never return to grows.

    However, the small community of Palmer where I live, had outdoor concerts all last summer and again this year. Although the social media has tried to shame them away…

    You should also know, that for now Alaska is an island. With the border being all but closed, entry is by boat or plane.

  93. @Greg S.

    It’s the same all over the world. This has been a big eye-opener for me as well from the pandemic: totalitarians are pretty much always on the left.

    I think one issue with statements such as this is how you define right and left. Even the binary idea of right and left is FAR too oversimplified to do reality any justice. Are republican voting, Zionist Christians who support the patriot act and the war on terror on the right? if so, then your statement is false. What about the boot lickers who identify as conservatives?

    Are Latin Americans who are highly religious Christians, Anti abortion and anti homo, and have large families, but also have communal farm land south of the border and vote democrat for the perceived immigration policy left wing or right wing?

    In America, conservative protestants are considered almost synonymous with the right wing. If you doubt the tyranny of which protestants are capable, look no further than the laws that the puritans established in the new world. Not that their is so much wrong with Protestantism per se, but it is a fact that all men are flawed, and any human institution or ideology can be corrupted.

    You see, the whole right vs left spectrum is really a fraud and is oversimplified, binary foolishness.

    • Agree: Rumpelstiltskin
    • Replies: @HeebHunter
    , @Greg S.
    , @HbutnotG
  94. Alden says:
    @Panadechi

    Friedman and the Chicago School. Poor immigrants will rise and rise and nobody will be poor. So import as many poor immigrants as possible.

    And Econ 101, the only way a business can succeed is by paying low wages and encouraging the importation of low wage workers. Econ 101 only cares about the poor marginal struggling small business person. A person so incredibly stupid as to start another Mexican asian pizza nasty food place in a mini mall with 7 other nasty food places. And a McDonalds, a Burger King, and a Carl’s Jr. within 2 blocks.

    Why doesn’t Econ 101 ever mention that landlords, real estate, auto dealers, the auto industry. auto repair, clothing ,travel and many other businesses need a critical mass of consumers able to patronize businesses other than Goodwill Walmart and the dollar stores? .

  95. Thim says:
    @Lee

    The Flips are too cowardly to fight the cops. They deserve the hell they have lived through this past year

    • Replies: @stevennonemaker88
  96. Alfred says:
    @Johnny Smoggins

    People seriously consider going to just as cold, but poorer and less developed Russia so why not Alaska?

    The word “poor” is inappropriate unless you look at prices and costs.

    Recently, Russia fined Twitter – for refusing to take down child porn and inciting kids to riot – the grand sum of $116,800

    Russia fines Twitter for leaving up content (DW)

    Just imagine how much RT would have had to pay – plus jail time – for inciting kids to join the demonstration at DC.

    For $100,000, you can set yourself up in Russia – get a nice wife, car and apartment. How much would the equivalent cost in Alaska? Indeed, are there any nice women in Alaska who will settle for such a poor prospect?

    Google says that housing costs in Alaska are 47% higher than the national average for the USA.

    Cost of living Anchorage

    Cost of living Novosibirsk

    I think it is fair to say that Anchorage is 3 times the cost of Novosibirsk. That is why the GDP data are misleading – intentionally so.

    • Replies: @bike-anarkist
  97. ebear says:

    I’m utterly amazed that someone looking for a means to escape the American nightmare would chose Chile as a destination – a place where a CIA backed coup murdered thousands of innocent people and imprisoned and abused many times that number for no other reason than expressing their democratic rights.

    A place where even today, people that committed those atrocities have never been brought to justice, and in fact occupy important positions in the government, military and economy. Yes, it was a long time ago, and anyone participating in those horrors is today either deceased or well over 70, but wait. Their children are still around, and if you think they don’t possess the same mentality as their parents, then ask yourself why its been so difficult to bring anyone to justice in that nation.

    In 1975 I married a Spanish lady whose family had been through similar horrors in the Spanish Civil War. As a legal worker for the Centre for Spanish Speaking People in Toronto, I met many of her clients, and even did some volunteer work as a translator. Chileans, Salvadoreans and Nicaraguans made up the bulk of her clients, and some of their stories were truly horrific. I’ll relate just one example:

    Maria was 21 years old when she was arrested for the “crime” of organizing a union in her factory. Did they come for her in the dead of night? No, they arrested her in her workplace, so as to send a message to other workers. She was then taken to a detention centre, where she was stripped naked, beaten and raped, after which they strapped her to a table, thrust a metal rod in her vagina and tortured her with electric shocks until she passed out from the pain. She was then tossed in a cell where she remained for the next two years, and raped daily with the threat of further torture should she resist in any way. At the end of all this she was released and told to leave the country, which she did within a few days, arriving in Canada where she was accepted as a refugee after being interviewed by my wife’s agency and examined by their resident physician.

    Throughout the entire two years her parents had no idea what had happened to her or where she was, in fact it was dangerous to even inquire. They met her briefly upon her release, and after a few days paid for her flight out of Chile. I don’t know if they were ever reunited as I lost touch with the centre after my wife and I separated.

    Needless to say, Maria was a complete wreck, both emotionally and physically when she arrived. I doubt if she ever fully recovered, and certainly not to the point where she could have a normal sex life, which even if she could, would never result in children as her uterus was damaged beyond repair.

    So Steven, I’ll just leave you with this thought. Anyone of those kindly old gentlemen you passed in the park today and nodded politely to could have done this to her, or to the many thousands of other who received similar treatment. How would you ever know? As for the rest of the population, why do you think they’re so compliant when being pushed around by the government? Because they know what happened back then, and know it could happen again, because the people responsible (and their heirs) are still at large, unpunished, and as I pointed out, in positions of power to this very day.

    It’s not like what happened was any great secret at the time, or at any time since. This has been very well documented, and anyone choosing to live in Chile would certainly have to know about it, so I ask you Steven, in all seriousness, what the fuck were you thinking?

    • Thanks: HeebHunter
  98. Tom Verso says:
    @Alden

    Thank you,
    But companies are not “families”. They are not individuals who make the decisions that increases their wealth and exploits the masses.

    The Supreme Court, early in the 19th century defined a Corporation as “an invisible intangible entity that exists only in the eyes of the law.”

    Revolutionary change will only come when those who promote and lead the revolution have the courage to talk about visible tangible material individual human beings and families.

    Otherwise all the laminations about exploitation is de facto poetry with social metaphors like families, companies, elites, oligarchs, etc.

    • Replies: @Getaclue
  99. @Marckus

    The US has its problems but in running to another country we could jump from the fire to the frying pan.

    The NWO agenda is global, that is for sure

    -You want to be mobile.
    -You have too many things if you cannot shift in 15 minutes in a sub-compact car

    Do you own a refrigerator? what about a range? a bed? It’s good to avoid unnecessary clutter, but this statement of yours is ridiculous. Those of us who have several children would hardly even fit in a sub compact car with zero luggage.

    Move out of the big cities. Too many problems and too easy for the authorities to monitor
    -If you remain in the US, choose smallest town in a red state and move to a place outside of that town

    While this might work for some, not everyone is an old pensioner without family ties. For many of us who must work, or have families, this is not an option.

    -Fly below the radar

    good luck with that. Most people have a significant online presence, have bank accounts, etc. Almost anything electronic can be tracked.

    -If moving out of the country and to LAtin America do not move to Central America or small South American states. They are too easy to police and box in.

    -My choice would be very rural areas in Brazil or Argentina. Get out your maps and study !

    As someone who lives in Central America, I can tell you that the great reset agenda and corona madness are global. That being said, the general poverty and corruption here is actually a benefit in some ways. It makes sophisticated laws and enforcement quite difficult. many people here recognize that the govt and it’s minions are grifters, thieves, or worse. Central America is far closer to the US than Argentina or southern brazil, and has a lower cost of living.

    I think you should learn a little more about topics like this before you speak, because you are showing your ignorance.

  100. WHAT says:

    TL;DR
    A US boomer plague made flesh is whining about his bugout hole suddenly becoming a bit less boomer-friendly. God forbid said boomer had to live his twilight years in the country he poisoned and ran away from with the money!

    Especially the pension part is telling.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  101. Boss Hogg says:
    @HeebHunter

    I guess those natural resources explains why the native americans had such strong middle class. Not to mention the English, French and Mexicans in the new world. Sure, sure.

    • Replies: @HeebHunter
  102. @Exile

    Back in my teens, when lolbergs said that while they love guns, they would not make gun ownerships and military training/conscription compulsory for the nation. It was the first true crack for me because that is retarded and contrary to what they peddled me.

    Now I understand that “right wingers” and lolbergs dont actually believe in anything nor do they possess the will to fight.

    (((Just as planned)))

  103. @stevennonemaker88

    2D understanding of the world is (((just as planned))).

    It is a deliberate strike at the human mind.

    • Agree: stevennonemaker88
  104. GMC says:

    Well Steven Yates and Mrs Yates- I retired in 2012 to foreign country also. Although I had worked there in 08 and was in and out of this county before retiring here, I had a small advantage. And yes, I saw the same thing happen in Ukraine, but I saw many more evil participants in the slaughter of the Ukies. The USG , Nato, Israel, and the Globalists { Monsanto/Bayer, Carghil, DuPont, Lily Pharma etc. were very active and now own the place. Luckily tho, I lived in Crimea and the good folks were awake enough to vote to go back to Mother Russia. But Ukraine now, probably looks like your Chile and there will be no hope – for it hs been sacrificed to the One World order.
    Strange , in 2015 I had to leave Crimea , because my Ukie residence was no longer good and so I was forced to leave for a few months . I went to Costa Rica and Nicaragua for 4 mos. just to look around { I speak good spanish} but I could see the /feel the CIA everywhere I went – plus C A has been a target all along. I got a Russian visa – went back to Crimea – and got lucky . Oo Dah Chee Steven .

  105. Boss Hogg says:
    @Dr Picard

    The emergence of a middle class in America began in the late 18th century. If I remember my history well, WW2 began in the 1940s.

    It is true that war factories were converted to civilian use, but those bombed out Europeans and Japanese were not buying anything from the American middle class, they had no money. The baby boom drove the middle class expansion post WW2 not a bombed Europe and Japan.

    As usual the jew bankers were the ones who profited most.

  106. @Boss Hogg

    I remember reading years ago that Chile was a very legislated country, which is to say, Chileans love laws and are proud to be law-abiding. That has proven to be the country’s Achilles’ heel in the fake pandemic. By contrast, more chaotic countries, like Mexico, are better off now because the people simply will not abide the kind of regimentation Chile has imposed. I live in Florida, which is one of the freest parts of the world, but I’m afraid the Washington regime will quash Florida’s freedom sooner or later. Moving to Mexico is now my escape plan.

  107. When I read stories such as this I can’t help but ask myself why the boot hasn’t come down on us as harshly? The only answer i can come up with is: the 2nd amendment frightens the creeps.

    • Replies: @stevennonemaker88
  108. @Address

    We all must forget our flight instinct and embrace our fight instinct because like you said “there is no physical escape” the feudalist agenda is a global one and nomatter where you are, they are coming for everything and everyone. The only way it stops is when they start finding themselves getting chopped up into pieces or blown to pieces. Im just surprised it hasnt happened yet. Fear works both ways., and they are only human. They have declared war on us all in the name of greed. The question is when and who will take the fight to them in the name of freedom? I am quickly approaching the point where my fight instinct kicks in. I have to believe theirs millions more of like mind.

  109. @ebear

    It’s not like what happened was any great secret at the time, or at any time since. This has been very well documented, and anyone choosing to live in Chile would certainly have to know about it, so I ask you Steven, in all seriousness, what the fuck were you thinking?

    You already know the answer. Lolberturdians don’t think. If they did, they would have grown out of it.

  110. GMC says:
    @Johnny Smoggins

    Lived in Ak bush for over 3 decades 1974 to 2006 . – in the 90s the POlice state showed up. I moved overseas.

    • Replies: @Biff
  111. @Thim

    Almost every country on earth has been subject to totalitarian “covid” restrictions, and there has been serious resistance in almost none. This includes the US, Russia, China, etc.

    While a mass uprising is needed, it is easier said than done, and blaming other people for taking actions you yourself are not taking is hypocritical and juvenile.

    If the Filipinos deserve what they get, then the Americans deserve so twice as much, and so do you.

  112. republic says:
    @Alden

    Probably it was the richest place on earth,the British North American colonies in 1776.

  113. @Jeffrey A Freeman

    You mean the Constitution and courts that enabled last November’s coup?

  114. If you plan to travel in the future you will probably need a vaccine passport. And the demand seems to be more from the people than from the governments.

    Nearly eight in 10 adults (78%) across 28 countries agree that Covid-19 vaccine passports should be required of travelers to enter their country, according to a new Ipsos survey.

    While vaccine passports have majority support in all 28 countries surveyed, the size of the majority varied significantly, ranging from 92% in Malaysia and 90% in Peru to 58% in Poland and 52% in Hungary.

    In the United States, 71% of adults support vaccine passports for international travel, which is in line with Germany (73%) and France (70%) but represents a smaller majority than in Mexico (86%), Australia (86%), Great Britain (84%), China (83%), Italy (79%) and Spain (77%).

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/suzannerowankelleher/2021/05/03/global-survey-huge-support-for-vaccine-passports—but-what-about-in-the-us/?sh=1a3da64a879b

    • Replies: @Alfred
    , @Vojkan
    , @RadicalCenter
  115. Boss Hogg says:
    @Old and Grumpy

    Capitalism is not jew usury. Markets set rates in capitalism. We do not have markets any more.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  116. @Johnny Smoggins

    Pointless as sooner or later TPTB will come for you no matter where you are. I draw the analogy to Whites fleeing to suburbia to escape blacks and browns who in due course follow their productive prey who then move to outer suburbia and are then followed there.

  117. utu says:
    @ebear

    “So Steven, I’ll just leave you with this thought. “ – You are wasting time on him. Steven is lolbertarian, so moral angle is nonexistent in his universe. He is concerned where to park his selfish ass next. And the clock is ticking. He is 64 yo and still on the level of moral development of a teenager who has just finished reading Ayn Rand crap.

  118. @the grand wazoo

    When I read stories such as this I can’t help but ask myself why the boot hasn’t come down on us as harshly?

    I’ve wondered this myself. I’m sure they could get away with much more. I think the real powers that be (not the bureaucrats) are very calculating, and realize they can often get more done by slow degrees rather than a fast push. Not that their aren’t times when they really push, like 911 and the covid madness. But in general, people are less likely to rise up if you restrict their freedoms little by little.

    For example, they won’t declare mandatory vaccinations and send a goon squad to every house. Rather, they will always be “voluntary” but required; Starting with international travel; then military members, then medical staff, then large events, then businesses, etc. So they will slowly make them de facto mandatory, while still remaining technically de facto voluntary.

    Same thing with gun control; it has been growing for the last 50 years, but little by little so as to not provoke too much pushback.

    • Agree: HbutnotG
  119. @steven yates Fairly good article. I had hoped to “escape” to Chile when I was there for the eclipse in 2019. But I saw the Socialism when I was there.

    As a Christian (born-again), I’m not happy with the Anti-Semitic spin in your article. I don’t doubt that families who are Jewish are bad guys. But I don’t see that as a Jewish Conspiracy.

    Don’t forget that the catholic pope is a Communist, and most of the Chilean people are catholic. They tend more sheepish than us. And even tho their National motto is “By Reason or by Force,” they don’t have the (former) North American streak of “Challenge Everything/Authority.”

    The Chilean govt is distributing a “vaccine” from … China. (The country that created the virus.) I say China is attacking Chile. (War.) You forgot to mention that Chile has Lithium. (Batteries.) And Chile has a lot of produce, easily shippable to the Orient. Chinese “fishing” vessels are gathering near the coast.

    And Chileans don’t have guns. (Not that North Americans have the will (or organization) to use ours.)

    And my formerly well off ($2,000,000 USD) Chilean friend there told me that owning gold (non-jewelry) is not allowed. (And her business website went Off the Air on May 1.)

  120. Cowboy says:

    Reading the comments by those here who are addicted to and crave continuously the next government agent whose bung hole they might lick is psychologically contiguous with, I suppose, the woman who fantasizes about getting raped.

  121. “Hard experience ought to tell us: the more abuse a people will tolerate, the greater the abuse that will be inflicted on them!”

    Stephan Douglass put it well:
    “The general sentiment of mankind is that a man who will not fight for himself, when he has the means of doing so, is not worth being fought for by others, and this sentiment is just. For a man who does not value freedom for himself will never value it for others, or put himself to any inconvenience to gain it for others. Such a man, the world says, may lie down until he has sense enough to stand up. It is useless and cruel to put a man on his legs, if the next moment his head is to be brought against a curbstone.
    A man of that type will never lay the world under any obligation to him, but will be a moral pauper, a drag on the wheels of society, and if he too be identified with a peculiar variety of the race he will entail disgrace upon his race as well as upon himself. The world in which we live is very accommodating to all sorts of people. It will cooperate with them in any measure which they propose; it will help those who earnestly help themselves, and will hinder those who hinder themselves. It is very polite, and never offers its services unasked. Its favors to individuals are measured by an unerring principle in this—viz., respect those who respect themselves, and despise those who despise themselves. It is not within the power of unaided human nature to persevere in pitying a people who are insensible to their own wrongs and indifferent to the attainment of their own rights. The poet was as true to common sense as to poetry when he said,
    Who would be free, themselves must strike the blow.
    …Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them, and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both.”
    blackpast.org/african-american-history/1857-frederick-douglass-if-there-no-struggle-there-no-progress/

    • Agree: Getaclue
  122. @Alfred

    GDP is just a measurement of capitalist destruction, a financial capitalist abstraction; whereas
    GNP is a measurement of capitalist production, an industrial capitalist construction.

  123. @Garliv

    “Third world” is a complicated term. It was originally used for countries that were not part of the Soviets bloc or the west. Nowadays, it is a general term for less developed/ wealthy nations.

    Every third world country is completely controlled by GloboCorp, if any country there doesn’t play ball, its government gets changed.

    Precisely. The situation in third world countries is simply too dire.

    Both yourself, and gT, are painting with far too broad a brush. The term third world can be used to encompasses everything from Haiti to Argentina, from Iran to south Africa. The number of major differences are too many to name. Many are heavily controlled by the globalists, some much less so. Some are undoubtedly better off in many respects than the west. Some are worse off in various ways.

    You would make more sense if you did not try to GROSSLY oversimplify. Your ignorance on the subject is showing; Please try to know something about a topic before you speak about it.

    • Replies: @Garliv
    , @gT
  124. @follyofwar

    You need to exorcize yourself of the “Cult of Personality” disorder.
    These miscreants on BOTH SIDES of the U$A political coin are all under direct oppression from the Swamp, BORG, Deep State etc., to toe the line. You know, “double tap”, brakes failed, Polonium poisoning, missing children etc. …

  125. sheliak says:
    @JohnPlywood

    You might want to lighten up just a little bit.

    • Disagree: JohnPlywood
  126. @GringoMike

    The Jews are the enemies of Christ:

    1 John 2:22 Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son.

    The wealthy Jews are doing their father’s work. Christ said that their father was the Devil.

    There IS a jewish conspiracy that goes back centuries. Most of them aren’t even semites, but rather khazars mixed with eastern european whites.

    • Replies: @anon
  127. anon[246] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rich

    Before the acceptance of Christianity by Europe, it’s people lived in subjugation and at subsistence levels with few rights.

    1. The overwhelming majority of men lived in “subsistence levels” in man’s history. The only possible exceptions are pastoralists who still lived lives with notable violence.

    2. All of history is filled with subjugation. If not of adult males within a clan, then of females and children.

    3. Medieval Europe had few to no “rights” that weren’t just traditional Indo-Euro rules for society (kings performing feasts aka redistribution, host to guest obligation, etc.).

    It was under the banner of Christianity that Europeans conquered the world and advanced science to never before seen levels

    Actually Existing Science is martial epistemology, developed by federated warriors who must discover reliable ways of reporting and testifying. Trust of and for your warrior peers depends on streamlining methods of ascertaining truth (hence the etymological root ‘tree’ for trust and truth). They must evolve a tradition of deciding judicial questions in a distributed (non-despotic) setting. So they discover standards for judging testimony: evidence, tests, instruments for measurements, disproof (falsification), etc. Only select races have been capable of such, and always male. This addresses how races in Africa, Australia, etc. never achieved such and also how women never have really contributed (women are too solipsistic).

    The big point is that claiming Christianity alone enabled said above claim is nothing. You need to address societies like the Mongols and Proto-Indo-Euros who achieve conquests that impact this day notably, the feats in Antiquity, lack of such feats in populations like Ethiopians.

    Your dismissal of S America is just ignorance. S Americans can do most of the jobs N Americans can do, but because of corruption, their nations are held down

    Tell us more on how what countries are like have nothing to do with the biological makeup of them. Do you unironically blame unions/democrats/big government for Detroit?

    • Replies: @Rich
    , @Fr. John
  128. @Tom Verso

    Why metaphors and not personal names”?

    Naming names takes time to research. The super wealthy maintain their wealth via shares in holding companies.

    But I’ll name 5 as an appetizer for you: Bill “gates of hell” gates. The Rothschild clan. Larry Fink, Sumner “rothstein” Redstone, Steve Ballmer.

    These are either the super wealthy themselves, or their mouthpieces and closest servants. Yes they are all Juden. (but that does not mean that there are not countless goy who are involved, and also culpable.)

    • Agree: Getaclue
    • Replies: @Tom Verso
  129. Boss Hogg says:
    @republic

    Whitney moved to England.

    I do not remember her ever saying that.

    In fact, on-line purchases of EVERYTHING is becoming the norm here, the banks and gov are pushing it. BancoEstado for example has a new digital money that uses a QR code. I get daily messages to be sure to download the app.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  130. Boss Hogg says:
    @Alden

    Perkins, Edwin J. (1988). The Economy of Colonial America (2nd ed.). New York: Columbia University Press.

    • Replies: @Alden
  131. FvS says:
    @anyone with a brain

    I’ll just leave these here.

    I would venture to say that race relations in Brazil would deteriorate if non-whites starting moving en masse into the southern regions. I would also venture to say that race relations aren’t as good as some would lead you to believe because white Brazilians certainly understand who commits most of the crime in their country, even if they’re reluctant to admit it out loud. There are secessionist movements in the South, and there is an old saying that “southern Brazil is the locomotive pulling the empty cars of the north.”

  132. Getaclue says:
    @JasonT

    Yes — this is what is heading to the USA, those behind the installed Dementia Patient Biden are pushing it as fast as they can — already Ireland is in large part like this — meanwhile the morons, many here on UNZ, keep cheering on the Covidian Cult and fear of the “Cases” (based on a totally phony “test” of false positives) and the importance of “Masking” (now totally debunked by actual “Science”) — really the stupidity is embarrassing at this point — also the “vacceeeene” proponents — Here you go — read up on why you’re injecting a death sentence.:

    https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=242205

  133. Alfred says:
    @Commentator Mike

    If you plan to travel in the future you will probably need a vaccine passport. And the demand seems to be more from the people than from the governments.

    That is a marketing ploy. Don’t believe it. They want people to think that we live in democracy and that the governments, despite themselves, are being forced into locking us up.

    It is the same with vaccines, they pretended that there were shortages of these things. It takes no time at all for a factory to churn out millions of doses. They had it all planned years ago.

    • Agree: Getaclue, Maowasayali
    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  134. Alfred says:
    @GringoMike

    Don’t forget that the catholic pope is a Communist

    Not at all. He was complicit in the activities of the military dictatorship in Argentina – hardly a Communist dictatorship.

    FYI, he is the first Jesuit to become pope. Jesuits are the way Jews infiltrated the Catholic Church and that is why they were kept away from the papacy for centuries.

    The Spanish Inquisition was largely an attempt to remove Jews who were trying to infiltrate the Catholic Church at that time. Spain has always had a large number of Jews pretending to have converted to Catholicism while practicing their Jewish rituals in secret. They intermarried.

    Most historians skip the real story and pretend that the Inquisition was to root out Protestants and suchlike – in countries that had almost no Protestants (Portugal, Spain and Italy). It is so obviously false.

    • Agree: Boss Hogg
    • Replies: @Dumbo
  135. hillaire says:
    @Abelard Lindsey

    Dr John Coleman ‘the committee of 300’/the conspirators hierarchy..

    Is an excellent book, written decades ago and somewhat prescient, for a more nuanced understanding of the ‘great plan’… (including the mass killings of western man)..

    Of course it could be predictive programming of sorts, but still worth a read.

  136. Getaclue says:
    @GringoMike

    I always find it hard to believe that there are people as clueless as you still running about — but there you are…. Yes, there are “good Jews” — I’ve worked with one and met them, however — to not understand that there is an organized force of Jews behind what is happening in the World (i.e. the NWO Agenda the end of the USA as it has been known, the end of Western Civilization, destruction of Christianity…. — the Israeli Gangsters/Mossad/their USA Servants literally did 911 — even Steve Unz admitted that obvious fact in an article he wrote here– have you read it?) is a level of naivety/ignorance that is hard to handle. Taken from their own mouths here, LISTEN TO THEM! — they are not trying to hide their “Agenda” or what they are up to – – they don’t have to — they own the Mainslime Media and most everything else — here they are to give you a “wake up call”!:


    Here’s their Trillionaire Leader with his Boss in the painting, Satan (making it obvious for you “Born Again” Christian), along with the Satanist “spirit cooker” who Bill Gates, who admitted he is a Satanist “minor wizard” in an interview with CNBC in 2019, used in ad for Microsoft released on Good Friday last year:

    http://stateofthenation.co/?p=11727

    https://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/microsoft-releases-and-deletes-an-ad-with-elite-occultist-marina-abramovic/

    https://www.barnhardt.biz/2020/05/11/one-of-the-things-satanists-are-required-to-do-at-a-certain-point-of-advancement-is-to-start-openly-manifesting-their-satanism/

    Gates (lackey to Rothschild/Rockefellers) admits he’s a Satanist:
    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/07/bill-gates-says-jobs-was-a-wizard-in-getting-staff-to-keep-apple-alive.html
    Ex-Satanist High Wizard tells his story and about 40 or so minutes in tells you he worked with Gates and Gates is, as Gates stated himself, a Satanist:
    https://padreperegrino.org/2020/10/kingfinalaud/

    • Replies: @stevennonemaker88
    , @Alden
  137. Getaclue says:
    @Tom Verso

    Rothschilds Banksters…. All roads lead to them. All roads. Here is the Trillionaire Clan Leader with HIS BOSS!:

    http://stateofthenation.co/?p=11727

  138. @Mefobills

    Thanks for your post.

    I have noticed that you post extensively on UNZ about finance vs Industrial capitalism, and I have also read work by Michael Hudson and Paul Craig Roberts.

    I would like to make a few relevant observations.

    1.In practice, most economies are mixed. During the darkest days of the post ww2 soviet union, there were incentives for those who worked hard in a particular field, and a barter economy. Even in the glory days of American free market capitalism of the late 19th century and early 20th century, there was a certain amount of government interference, and even the gold standard was never in practice what it was on paper. The difference between capitalism and communism may depend largely on who is doing the labeling, and what axe they have to grind.

    2. “Capitalism” has become a near-religion to many. People have been convinced that “the market” can do no wrong and that the accumulation of money and power, as long as it is done through the market, is ok or even good. the fact of the matter is that almost any system is open to exploitation. Even in a truly free market, it is possible, in fact inevitable, that some greedy and crafty actors will find ways to exploit others and amass undue fortune for themselves on the backs of those who actually produce.

    3. The driving force of the free market is supposed to be competition. “go out and start your own business” sounds great. In some cases it might be a viable option. In other areas, it is so much silliness. In many industries, the barriers to entry are simply too high. One does not go out and start one’s own airline the way one can go door to door and start one’s own lawn service, or lemonade stand. Any developed economy must have a certain level of organization and coordination that necessitates the dreaded words… government oversight.

    4. Although you and other’s term the preferred economic system “industrial capitalism”, I think many of our zealous “capitalist” fanatics would consider it not capitalism at all. People have to get out of the mental rut that ALL government is bad. Those who value freedom and truth must understand that nature abhors a vacuum, and limited, accountable government that works to restrain the worst abuses of the wealthy is the best real world solution.

    5. The question of capitalism vs socialism reminds me of the debate of democracy vs monarchy: who are the voters, and who is the monarch? the answer makes all the difference in the world. Is the problem so much our system? or that it is run by hostile elites who are intentionally killing the host?

  139. @Levtraro

    A similar situation exists in Austfailia with compulsory superannuation. 9% of salaries are placed in super, and the ‘industry’ funds, run in part by unions, have been very successful in growing these moneys, with minimal fees. The private funds, run by various bankster and other financial parasites, in contrast, have been hot-beds of theft by larcenous fees etc.
    Naturally, the hard Right Federal regime hates the industry funds, and does everything it can to harm them, usually led by one of the Cabinet ‘female’ Harpies who are even more loathsome than the males, a scarcely conceivable situation. As ALWAYS, it is the parasites’ political servants aka ‘the Right’, ‘conservatives’ and, here, ‘the Liberals’, sucking as much blood from the serfs as possible, and transferring it to the bludger class. The average Ocker being a brain-dead, greedy, vacuole, the vampirism is rampant.

    • Replies: @Anon
  140. @GringoMike

    Sorry Gringo Racist Mike, but the USA created SARS CoV2 in Fort Detrick. You should be proud of ‘Yankee ingenuity’ in mass murder, genocide and crime. You’re definitely Number One there.

    • Agree: acementhead
  141. @Boss Hogg

    A ‘Markets moron’-I would have thought the last forty years would have provided enough evidence to completely discredit these idiots. Market power is everywhere and always simply money power. To have a so-called ‘efficient’ market, you would need total equality of money power among individuals, a situation that the Market thugs would kill billions to avert.

    • Troll: Boss Hogg
  142. @Getaclue

    You are handing out red pills like a pro. They don’t call him bill “gates of hell” for nothing. excellent post…. two thumbs up!

  143. Mefobills says:

    5. The question of capitalism vs socialism reminds me of the debate of democracy vs monarchy: who are the voters, and who is the monarch? the answer makes all the difference in the world. Is the problem so much our system? or that it is run by hostile elites who are intentionally killing the host?

    Who? Whom?

    If the top of the hierarchy (who) is self-aggrandizing for themselves (whom), then your civilization is done-for. It is something like a parasitized brain, which makes the body malfunction.

    If the top of the hierarchy is working for the general welfare, then the outputs will be general wealth.

    The answer does make all the difference in the world.

    With regards to “credit as money” there are iron-rules that cannot be abrogated. One very specific rule is that any new credit creation MUST channel toward wealth creation, not consumption, and not speculation.

    Industrial Capitalism is in alignment with the first iron rule of credit creation. Finance Capitalism breaks the iron rules to then allow parasitism and speculative economy.

    Any sort of government, providing they adhere to the iron rules, will perform well enough. Democracy unfortunately is too easy to pervert, too easy to program and lead the sheeple astray, while a hidden parasitic elite string pull to self aggrandize.

    Thanks for your insightful comments.

  144. Robjil says:

    Chile’s US coup in 1973 happened on nine eleven. Thus, Chile had the first nine eleven. That is the nine eleven date as an earth shattering event. Chile’s extreme clampdown for the Covid-19 is another first for any nation in the world.

    https://timshorrock.com/2011/09/12/the-other-911-chile-1973/

    September 11, in 1973, was the day Chilean President Salvador Allende was overthrown in a bloody military coup that ended a brief experiment in democratic socialism and took the lives of Allende and thousands of Chilean workers, students and political activists. Today, many trade unionists remain haunted by the knowledge that their own federation, the AFL-CIO, played a key role in the US campaign, led by the Nixon Administration and the Central Intelligence Agency, to destabilize Chile in the years before the coup. From 1971 to 1973, the AFL-CIO’s American Institute for Free Labor Development (AIFLD), one of four US-government-funded labor institutes created during the cold war, channeled millions of dollars to right-wing unions and political parties opposed to Allende’s socialist agenda. That aid helped finance the revolt by Chile’s professional class and fanned the flames of social unrest that provided the pretext for Gen. Augusto Pinochet’s violent crackdown and the justification for his seventeen-year dictatorship.

    • Thanks: stevennonemaker88
  145. Garliv says:
    @stevennonemaker88

    Countries which were neither aligned with Soviet Bloc or West were referred to as Non-Alligned Movement (NAM). Third world generally was used, and it is still used, to refer to less developed or developing countries.
    I concede those terms are general in nature and even pejorative. But the main point was globalist control of these countries. You seem to underrate how far across the globe the globalists have spread their poison. Try and point out which country you think has escaped globalists control among the less developed countries (your preferred term) .

    Iran has been resisting for decades but I do not consider Iran a third world country. It’s graded as Newly Industrialized Country or something like that.

    • Replies: @stevennonemaker88
  146. @Yo

    Great comment, Yo, thanks.

    I visited Santiago in 2011, and was shocked by the prices. $7 fees at ATMs. I believe a Lonely Planet guide I found was $50. I asked the bookseller why, the answer was ‘taxes’ (true or not, I don’t know). The people were polite, but few smiles or laughs in public.

    Raspberry juice, however, was good and affordable.

  147. Mike Tre says:
    @Mefobills

    Finance capitalism is of course, jewish capitalism: Usery, schemes, manipulation, “free” trade, interest, speculations, hedge funds. Fake commodities in exchange for fake money.

    Industrial capitalism is white capitalism. Building, engineering,manufacturing, design, creativity, invention, development. Tangible products/services in exchange for hard currency.

  148. @ebear

    Thanks for your comment. That is a terrible story. I live in Guatemala, and the army (supplied by the americans and israelis) did even worse, reaching the level of genocide during the 1980s.

    That being said, I question your logic of condemning Mr. Yates. Because a place suffered horrific civil war or repression many years ago does not mean that it does not have other good things about it. Germany was utterly wrecked in 1945… but from what I’ve read, West Germany in the 60s was a great place to live. By your own admission, the Pinochet regime were puppets of the CIA/Americans. So by that logic, isn’t living in the US as bad or worse?

    In addition, I think the biggest redeeming factor in latin america is that the people, especially the young women, have not been spoiled to death and feminized. The fact is, there are very negative features in almost every place on earth. The NWO agenda is GLOBAL However, there are other important factors that may outweigh the bad things.

    I think criticizing someone for moving to another country while focusing on only one aspect of the decision is like criticizing someone for buying a minivan because it is slow and bulky… maybe they aren’t buying for performance, but because it holds 7 passengers….

    On the balance there are probably many Chileans who have a better life than Americans, and some who do not. Their are pros and cons with most things in life. be sure you have looked at ALL the relevant factors before you dismiss someone as clueless or wrong.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  149. Biff says:
    @GMC

    Lived in Ak bush for over 3 decades 1974 to 2006 . – in the 90s the POlice state showed up.

    Can you give us an example of how the police state showed up? Physically or intrinsically; I know they are always there to take their cut in protection money(taxes).

    • Replies: @GMC
  150. Al Ross says:
    @Andy Horton

    https://www.thejc.com/news/features/when-jews-made-friends-with-pinochet-the-tyrant-1.459762

    As we all know , Pinochet was vilified by Leftists who deeply resented the necessary violent measures the dictator employed to rid Chile of Communism.

    All Pinochet did was borrow the Left’s violent methods and use them against Communist enemy.

    • Agree: profnasty
  151. niceland says:

    Interesting article. Thanks!

  152. @Garliv

    from history.com : “The Third World, meanwhile, encompassed all the other countries that were not actively aligned with either side in the Cold War. These were often impoverished former European colonies, and included nearly all the nations of Africa, the Middle East, Latin America and Asia.”

    But the main point was globalist control of these countries. You seem to underrate how far across the globe the globalists have spread their poison. Try and point out which country you think has escaped globalists control among the less developed countries (your preferred term) .

    I have said many times that the NWO agenda is global. But that is not the same thing as having complete control. A CEO may be the head of his corporation; but in practice he will always need to delegate and share power with his representatives and middle managers down the line. Where I live in Guatemala, we had corona madness like much of the world. However, we don’t have gay marriage, abortion, or nearly as much of the woke madness, and very few have taken the phony vaccine. While our overlords may be wealthy banksters, the actual day to day life has a very different flavor than what you might find in another country. I have three kids, we are finishing building a house in a small town, and we have a very good life.

    So while I agree that the Great Reset agenda, and the tentacles of the (((bankers))) are global, I think you are overstating your case, and oversimplifying things in a way which paints a distorted picture. Individuals may have different points of view and assign different weight to different factors, but on the balance I think that the west has fallen so fast, it is on par or below much of the “third world.”

  153. Skeptikal says:

    Great article. Thanks.

  154. Glad that @Al Ross stepped in.

    I have a friend in Chile who lived during the Allende/Pinochet times. She has sent me paperwork from Chile showing that the courts had ruled the Allende election false. (Remind you of any recent stolen election?)

    I’m not happy that our CIA was involved there. But apparently Chilean law was against Allende. Someone needed to right that wrong. It fell to the Military.

    I don’t know enough about Pinochet to know if he was compromised by the World Order or not.

    BUT – I know enough to know that their standard of living went up after Pinochet. And I know enough that it went back down after the Chileans elected Michelle Bachelet. (Who, ironically, still “rules” over Chile from the UN. (Stupid Piñera for not putting “Chile First.”))

    Okay, maybe it would have gone up more if no one was corrupt, etc.

    Regardless of the true history, I always laugh (sadly) when I read (Left wing) media revisionist history about the event. Even today the headline’s deride the “Pinochet Dictatorship-era Constitution.”

    But apparently, in the Leftist media, a Castro Dictatorship is okay.

    And, yes, Pinochet was force to “disappear” people. When you read the full stories, you find that those people were Communists who were heading off to secret meetings, trying to overthrow their current government. They would have tried to kill Pinochet. So he killed them first. (I.e., they were at war with him.)

    No different than what Castro did to Cubans who tried to resist him.

    But the Leftist never complain about all the people who disappeared under Castro.

    Next to the sin of unbelief, the sin of hypocrisy is second.

    • Replies: @Biff
  155. Skeptikal says:
    @WHAT

    Another “boomer-phobic.”

    Ignore.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  156. Alden says:
    @ebear

    I remember hearing about the Canadian Center to help victims of torture.

  157. Skeptikal says:
    @Boss Hogg

    I have wondered where in Chile Whitney Webb lives, and why or how she ended up there.

    I perhaps naively thought that as a fearless investigative reporter she would be safer there than in the USA.

    How do you know that she has moved to England?

    • Replies: @Boss Hogg
  158. Alden says:
    @Boss Hogg

    Thanks, I’ll check out the reviews. Maybe it will be able to explain how a poor country could afford to buy all those slaves and indentured servants right off the docks.

    • Replies: @Boss Hogg
  159. Tom Verso says:
    @stevennonemaker88

    Yes Of Course

    We all know the names and say them in conversations and write them in comments.

    But, the vast majority of the alt-commentary is in metaphoric terms such as those that I listed.

    We all know that Jeff Bezo owns Amazon. But the vast majority of commentary about Amazon on labor issues or delisting book listings is about the company Amazon – not Bezo.

    Similarly, the vast majority of criticism of Washington Post reporting is about the company Washington Post – not the owner Jeff Bezo.

    The reform economist Michael Hudson writes and speaks volumes all over the internet. Yet, his criticism is about Wall Street and the Elites and the Oligarchs.

    He is a highly influential economist. He has advise national governments all over the world.

    But, he never criticizes elite people or families let alone ethnic groups,

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  160. anon[244] • Disclaimer says:

    It is all about fear. That is why the American media often send good looking white girls to stir up trouble and fight their wars for them.

    • Replies: @anon
  161. @Boss Hogg

    Kissinger needs to be thanked for this mess. Allende had a good idea of sharing wealth but the USA corporatens and Jewish shareholders had other thoughts . Pinochet was the result. Amazing—–Chile Iraw Afghasnstan Vietnam Korea Servia Libya all Central America —where would the globe be without the US of A? Another Hong Kong ??

    • Replies: @Malla
  162. Alden says:
    @Getaclue

    I’ve always wondered if Melinda Gates is really a man. Something about that face.

    • Agree: Skeptikal
    • Replies: @Dumbo
  163. Anon[712] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Alarmist

    “In 2004, while being hassled by an obnoxious TSA clerk, I jokingly told her that it was easier for me to transit the DDR to West Berlin than it was to get through America’s airports (the Sovs at the border checkpoints never asked me to remove my shoes and belt). That joke almost cost me my flight that day.”

    You never make a joke with such people, they aren’t completely human. A normal person could never work at this for very long, only a jaded, hardened person, with no compassion. Kind of like the jail guards at Devil’s Island. Even if you started out as a normal person, in order to cope with the job, you will need to change dramatically. They aren’t like the old school border guards who were normal, everyday folks who you could interact with. They were able to differentiate (from years of experience) smugglers, illegal aliens and normal people who were just going about their business. The modern TSA and DHS people are trained to have the same mentality as the gulag guards in the Soviet Union or the secret police behind the Iron Curtain. Everybody is a potential enemy of the state, and needs to be treated as such. When you deal with them, keep a straight face and look them in the eyes, and just answer their questions and only answer the questions that they ask. The problem with a lot of Americans is that they don’t know when to shut up and they want to make small talk with everybody. These guards are your enemy and have the power to kill you and make your life very miserable, they aren’t the greeters in the Wal Mart.

  164. Move to a non-White country, act surprised when it’s a dumpster fire.

    No sympathy.

    • LOL: some_loon
    • Replies: @gatobart
  165. dimples says:

    GloboCorp. It’s a lot better than GloboCap, but GloboShlomo still wins!

    • LOL: Maowasayali
    • Replies: @anon
  166. anon[244] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    You coulda sent Tulsi Gabbard except Tulsi had real brains in her head and even though she is a vet she never had any illusions about the value of war. She would have set you straight about war.

  167. Greg S. says:
    @stevennonemaker88

    I would agree that definitions are important, and unfortunately the definitions of “left” and “right” in today’s world have become rather confused and nebulous.

    But to me it is rather simple and binary:

    Left = big government authoritarians (government can solve all the problems if it can just control the people enough).

    Right = small government libertarians (people can solve the problems if government gets out of the way).

    The issue is humans lie and misrepresent themselves constantly. In today’s world, almost no major political entity that calls itself on the right is actually on the right, under my definitions. The entire planet has been steered to the left, in order to have those big government systems of control, and it’s only going to get much, much worse before it can possibly get any better.

    My thesis remains: show me how an actual implementation of a small government system could enforce a tyranny. No government = no tyranny. A counter argument might be that without the large government to enforce control, a “pandemic” could run through the populace and kill everybody. My counter is that people are not so stupid as the leftist authoritarians project: in a real pandemic, where there was real evidence of people dropping dead left and right, people would self-regulate their behaviour without the need for tyranny. And yes many would refuse to listen, and many would die, and that would be their right. I believe we have free-will and have the right to engage in risky behaviour and possibly die from it.

    What we have now in the world is something else entirely and much more perverse: we have a “pandemic” that leaves absolutely no evidence of itself in its wake. Few people know anyone who died. Among my entire network of extended family, friends, co-workers and acquaintances I know of zero deaths. The rules are arbitrary and insane (wear a paper mask to walk to the table, take it off to eat). And because of this, the only thing that can hold it all together is government tyranny. That should give one pause.

    PS: all your examples I would call “leftists” because they all believe in large government systems imposing their will upon others, regardless of what they might self-identify as.

    • Replies: @stevennonemaker88
  168. Tony says:
    @anyone with a brain

    Forget about New zealand. The woman who runs the country is one of those woke liberal bitches. Sadly Australia might be heading the same way now.

  169. gatobart says:

    If you live in Chile and you have the money (i.e. you are wealthy and/or retired and receive a good pension or have steady revenues, if you are a foreigner with the means to go live in Chile for the rest of your life) here is what you got to do: there are one thousand miles, no, make that thousand kilometres of pristine beach north of Santiago with the whole Pacific Ocean and 365 days of sun each year (with temperatures above the 20 Celsius) to enjoy . Two thousand km.. of beautiful beaches where you can pick the spot where you will be able to build your own little prefabricated wooden cabin (which they may go as cheap as US$10.000) and then you settle there, enjoy the marine breeze, the good local food, the everlasting sun, and forget about the rest, about the whole world and about the problems of the big cities like Santiago, Valparaiso or Concepcion. My personal pick is the IV Region, more specifically within a radius a hundred miles around La Serena. (Guess what my own plans for my (very) old age are).

  170. anon[244] • Disclaimer says:
    @dimples

    Yeah, somebody said shlomo to me ounce about twenty years ago. He was talking about his girlfriend who was standin right next to him. Guess I didn’t appreciate how clever he was. I was in sales at the time so never said a word, just wished they would leave.

  171. gatobart says:
    @Erik_The_Red

    The 1950s called.. They want to know how long you do plan to stay away from home. Isn’t already the time for you to come back…? By 2021 there is no White country left and I got to know it. I and posting this from Canada.

  172. @Ray Caruso

    I wonder how many immigration restrictionist pearl clutchers have Mexico in mind as an escape plan.

    That might be the skeleton key that unlocks the cognitive dissonance.

    True genius: Don’t “escape” to Mexico. Secede – to Mexico.

    Want to put real fear of God in the cold, corrupt hearts of the Woke?

    Make that your movement.

    • Replies: @Ray Caruso
  173. Vojkan says:
    @Commentator Mike

    “I only believe in statistics that I doctored myself”

    – attributed to Winston Churchill, allegedly by Goebbels, to show him a liar.

    Opinion polls are one tool in the toolset to manufacture consent. From methodology of selection of participants to formulation of questions, to incitement to give “correct” but insincere answers, to outright forgery of numbers, there are many ways in which surveys can be made to yield the desired result.

    Governments cannot declare the end of the pandemics if not enough people are vaccinated. If they did, they’d admit that they are either totally incompetent or that they have conspired to scam the people they govern. So they’ll use every tool in the toolset to get people vaccinated.

    • Agree: Maowasayali
    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  174. ingotus says:

    Hello Stephen,
    Thank you for the article and sorry you are living through this. I am close to folks that have lived in Chile during the Allende-Pinochet period and the decades thereafter, and their perception is a bit different from yours. Leftist media dominates the airwaves in Chile as it does elsewhere, and the people there are not immune to propaganda about their own history. Although largely reviled now by history, Pinochet should receive credit for transforming a very third world country into the tiger of LatAm. The privatization of pensions actually insulated the pension system from corruption – the opposite of the media narrative – so that a fully funded system existed for a while, the envy of serious economists throughout the world. In fact, had the system been corrupted the recent pension withdrawals would not have been possible. And it did in fact create a pool of capital for private investments that fueled the economy’s growth to become – even despite a string of leftist governments post Pinochet – into the nice country that drove you and many others to immigrate. That now appears to be on the verge of being over, with widespread crime and vandalism tolerated by authorities in the name of… I’m not sure what. Who is behind it? I’m not sure, but I’m not one to believe in “spontaneous popular uprising” narratives. Specially not in Chile – where the populace tends to be docile as you mention, but also because it has done better than its neighbors in most measures you can come up with – which also explains the masses of immigrants from poorer countries lining up to enter. Oh well, too bad.
    Cheers!

    • Agree: Alfred
  175. GMC says:
    @Biff

    When I first moved to Ak in 74 and lived on the road system North of Anchorage. , I rarely saw a state trooper , as most of law enforcement were fish and wildlife officers. There really wasn’t a very big need for them – people policed themselves but in case of a major problem – they were called in. In the bush villages we had a local man called vpso { village police service officers} who acted as the POliceman. We had court once and awhile, that was attended by a rotating judge type person. Ten years later , about the same situation, In the 90s came a huge push to make certain parts of Alaska a training area for troopers and next came a new prison at Goose Bay . The reason was a rash of criminal activity and as we all know, more laws are made, and more people busted for those new laws and pretty much anything the troopers wanted to do – they did – in the Bush and the road system. I have seen the situation over 30 years and the state has become another Judicial POlice state. And yes, I got caught up in it in 2004/5 , the case was dismissed and I left the following year. You don’t win in a small town , the troopers will harass you after the win and they did it to me. They’d even fly out to my homestead and land on my private runway and ask me for my hunting lic or fishing lic. – just to get a reaction. Prior to all this I had one speeding ticket and a DUI in 86 – 30 yrs. It ain’t Alaska when the Feds corral you.

    • Thanks: Alfred, RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Biff
  176. @Vojkan

    Maybe, but most people see foreigners as the source of all their ills so there is nothing strange if they want to keep diseased foreigners, or potentially diseased foreigners, out of their countries. After all so far the ones who have sealed their borders have fared best in this pandemic.

    • Replies: @Vojkan
  177. Dumbo says:
    @Alfred

    Jesuits are the way Jews infiltrated the Catholic Church

    There are stories about the Jewsuits for centuries.

    Even Galileo admitted in a letter, that he was not being persecuted by the Catholic Church or even because of his opinions, but due to the enmity with a small subset of Jesuits.

    On the other hand, Jesuits were largely responsible for the education and assimilation of Indians in South America, until they were suppressed. (The film “The Mission” is a bit about that, and also about he suppression of the Jesuits by Spain and Portugal)

    Even up to the 20th century, most schools and universities in Brazil were schools created by Jesuits or other religious orders, and many are still active.

    • Replies: @Alfred
    , @Vojkan
  178. @Boss Hogg

    You can “take it to the bank” on Dr. Yates boots on the ground assessment. In the vanguard of the same crowd as Steve, I bought a small condo in Chile in 2007 — but ended up relocating to New Zealand instead . Decided to sell the Chile condo in early 2019 and finally got around to actually moving on getting it listed in early 2020. Closed a sale with proceeds making it to a bank in USA in January 2021 — just before the door shut on Chile, maybe for good.

    For the moment, New Zealand has ended up being the better of few good choices, though within the next year it could be turn out to be a wash. New Zealand does at least have a growing and well educated resistance movement on the Covid front:

    https://voicesforfreedom.co.nz/

    https://www.covidplanb.co.nz/our-posts/covid-19-science-and-policy-symposium-written-summary/

  179. Dumbo says:
    @Alden

    It’s a man. I think a Youtuber some time ago had proved had proved it beyond any reasonable doubt.

    In any case, Gate is divorcing her/him. I guess this whole vaccine thing put too much stress on their marriage.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9538991/Bill-Melinda-Gates-DIVORCING.html

  180. Robjil says:

    Here is an article about Israel’s and Chile’s vaccination drives. Why is it “working” in Israel and not in Chile? Are they using the same “vaccination” material?

    https://thesaxon.org/coronavirus-the-cases-of-israel-and-chile-keep-us-on-alert/40030/

    Israel’s “vaccination” program.

    And the number of infected people who develop serious manifestations of the disease, as well as the number of deaths, dropped dramatically. There are even days when no one dies from Covid-19 in Israel.

    But they have close to 1 million people who refuse to get vaccinated!

    Chile’s “vaccination” program.

    Chile was another country that decided to follow a strategy similar to Israel’s. With just over 8 million vaccinated out of a total population of 19 million, it claims to be the 2nd country in the world with the highest percentage of vaccination, only behind Israel.

    However, despite this high vaccination rate, the result is bleak.

    Many days the 6,500 infections are exceeded, almost triple the cases that occurred in the worst moments of the pandemic. Before there were even vaccines. When you could only fight the coronavirus through isolation measures.

    • Replies: @Vojkan
    , @Dumbo
  181. Vojkan says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Right, but vaccination passports apply to both foreigners and nationals. They won’t stop “refugees” but they’ll hinder movement inside Europe. So people are making a very wrong calculation if they hope vaccination passports will stop immigration.

    • Replies: @Dumbo
    , @Commentator Mike
  182. Vojkan says:
    @Robjil

    Are they using the same “vaccination” material?

    Good question.

  183. Dumbo says:
    @Vojkan

    “Vaccine passports” have nothing to do with immigration / refugees as these are asylum seekers who go through a different process. Some might not even have passports.

    Do you think that those boatloads of African immigrants coming to the Mediterranean shores will be stopped by “vaccine passports”? I don’t think so.

    The “vaccine passports” are just a measure of further control of European individuals. To know where they go, how, with whom, to allow or not their entry based on whatever authorities decide. I don’t even think it has a lot to do with the disease so much, but just as a way of tracking that will become permanent

    (I doubt that this will be limited to 2021, there will probably be annual vaccinations, you’ll see)

    • Replies: @Vojkan
  184. Dumbo says:
    @Robjil

    I have no idea what’s going on, but in a few countries there seems to be an increase in cases after vaccination. Perhaps just a coincidence.

    Israel, I don’t know, but it’s a smaller country. That said, many haredim have refused the vaccine, I don’t know what are the effects of that.

    • Replies: @Robjil
  185. Rich says:
    @anon

    1. I blame affirmative action and greedy management for the destruction of Detroit.

    2. How do you explain the coincidence that the peoples who accepted Christ rose so much higher than all other people and races? Until the triumph of Christianity, Europeans lived like most of the rest of the world, but after Christianity we grew to be the greatest of the races. If we were still worshipping trees, or statues, could we ever have risen so high? Rome did very well, but a majority were slaves, the Germans were great warriors, but they made few scientific advancements, the Brits lived in mud huts where a father had sexual rights to his sons’ brides. Not a pretty place.

    As much so you guys hate to admit it, the West rose when it embraced Christ, and declines as it rejects Him. Sorry.

    • Replies: @anon
  186. Vojkan says:
    @Dumbo

    Maybe I didn’t express my thought clearly enough but that’s about what I meant in my reply so we are in full agreement here.

    • Replies: @Dumbo
  187. @Vojkan

    Ah well, Europeans … what can you say about them? I’m sure Malaysians will keep those refugee boats well out at sea, and will keep rounding up, caning, and deporting illegals, just as they usually do, while requiring vaccine passports for tourists and other legitimate visitors.

  188. bayviking says:

    Chile is just one more country where we choose their leader for them and kill them if we don’t like what they say and do. Like Afghanistan, Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Cuba, Ecuador, Guatemala, Haiti, Honduras, Iran, Iraq, Libya, Nicaragua, Panama, Paraguay, South Ossetia, Syria, Ukraine, Venezuela, Vietnam. We even send Madison Avenue to Russia to get the very unpopular Yeltsin re-elected in Russia, then whine about a few Russian hackers, all with propaganda budgets smaller than the Republican Party, Brad Pascal, or Cambridge Analytica. We are a nation of belligerent hypocrites.

    Like President Kennedy once said, the CIA needs to be broken into a thousand pieces. President Truman wrote an op-ed, after Kennedy was assassinated making the same point, published in the Washington Post, and he created the CIA.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/the-rise-of-the-cia-and-the-decline-of-americas-moral-standing/2020/10/08/442024b4-03ff-11eb-a2db-417cddf4816a_story.html

  189. gT says:
    @JohnPlywood

    Hey clever man, I’m from South Africa.

  190. Dumbo says:
    @Vojkan

    Yes, this was supposed to be a reply to the person you had replied to, actually, I made a mistake. 😀

  191. Malla says:
    @Truth

    Brazil has been a mongering place and wife hunting place for American Blacks. They see the more feminine Brazilian woman not destroyed to the same extent by feminism as the Murican woman of whatever race especially the typical Murican Black woman. But ofcourse, when the Brazilian mulher comes to Murica she becomes like the typical Murican woman with time. Same with all those Ukrainian, Russian, Filipino, Ethiopian women etc…Western White men get back to the West to be spoiled.

    • Agree: Alfred
  192. Malla says:
    @anyone with a brain

    Life in Brazil has its problems (maybe you can escape them in the Southern parts)


    10 Things I Hate About Brazil by Christopher Buscher, an American who has lived in Brazil for many years, speaks Portuguese and is married to a Brazilian woman. Owns business there.

    1. Overall Corruption.
    2. Bad Laws.
    3. Can’t Trust Public Departments.
    4. Can’t Trust The Police.
    5. Very Small Middle Class.
    6. The People Don’t Fight For What They Want.
    7. Education Is Weak.
    8. They’re Not Patriotic.
    9. Traffic and Public Transportation.
    10. The Future Of The Country Is Uncertain.

    Has some strange similarities with India if you ask me except that Brazil has a much higher standard of living, much more culturally liberal, hotter women than India but also has much more violent crime compared to India.


    I hate living in Brazil! I need to get this off of my chest!

    • Replies: @Ray Caruso
  193. Malla says:
    @GomezAdddams

    The problem is, many Left winged leaders there are controlled by or are close to the Globalists too. People of the World are stuck in between Marxism or Finance Capitalism, both controlled and supported by Globalists.

    • Replies: @Blissex
  194. Fr. John says:

    One of the tragedies of this entire Chile as ‘safe haven’ was the American who renounced his citizenship (!?) Mr. John Cobin, who used to have the site, “Flee America Now” and who had, for 20 years, been preaching the same message as Yates.

    Here is one of the ONLY English sources to talk to his plight when it happened:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/11/11/john-cobin-chile-shooting-protesters-video/

    Cobin’s ‘dream’ has turned into an 11-year prison sentence nightmare in a Chilean prison.
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-chile-protests-shooting/former-u-s-citizen-sentenced-in-chile-for-shooting-at-protesters-idUSKBN27A10Y

    And the Jews media spun this, even here. Cobin fired INTO THE AIR, to get people to stop their mob violence. NO one was hurt, NO ONE was killed. Just compare that to the children killed at an all-black Birthday party in the USA, and tell me justice isn’t perverted on both counts in animal nations?!?

    Thanks for the article, Mr. Yates. Chile is a banana dictatorship, clearly. And White America needs to secede from the Jungle, post haste.

  195. gT says:
    @stevennonemaker88

    Seems I touched a nerve, South Americans do not like being associated with the term ‘Third World”.

    • Replies: @stevennonemaker88
  196. Fr. John says:
    @anon

    Disclaimer- Your Christophobia is showing… again.

    • Replies: @John-Scott de Basso
  197. Blissex says:

    What is so amusing here is that a “libertarian” has been mugged by reality, and has finally figured out that the purpose of right-wing politics is not “liberty from government for all”, but making the various “company stores” as profitable as possible for those who fund right-wing parties. Those elite families are not funding right-wing parties and politicians and pinochetism and neoliberalism because they want the servant classes to enjoy liberty and the pursuit of happiness, who could have known? 🙂

  198. Blissex says:
    @Malla

    The problem is, many Left winged leaders there are controlled by or are close to the Globalists too. People of the World are stuck in between Marxism or Finance Capitalism, both controlled and supported by Globalists.

    What you call “Left” and “Marxism” is virtually non-existent, nearly all governments are right-wing financialist neoliberals (in the USA most Democrats and most Republicans in the UK most Conservatives, plus New Labour and LibDem) or right-wing financialist conservatives (a minority, in the USA some republicans and virtually no Democrats, in the UK a significant minority of the Conservatives). Globalism is usually just a consequence of financialism.

    In the USA itself the very faintly industrialist tradcon D Trump was constantly attacked by both right-wing financialist neoliberals and conservatives, from both the Republican and Democratic parties.

    Financialism has been making such huge fortunes for most of the elites that they don’t tolerate the risk of deviation from it.

    • Replies: @Malla
  199. How come these enforcers are not affected by this “pandemic” even though they come across all people all the day?

  200. Corendon says:

    Vaccination causes in two ways a surge in Covid infections:

    – When people are simultaneously infected with the virus with a quantity that they could normally handle this extra amount of fake virus with push them over the edge and allow the sickness to break through. You can this see clearly in old peoples houses that experience a local outbreak after vaccination.

    – People treated with a RNA vaccin also exhale those fake virus spikes made by the vaccine. This will have a similar effect in those not vaccinated.

    Both trends will be self-reinforcing: you get a wave of infections. Of course that only contributes to a situation later on where most people are immune and the rate of infections is very low.

    • Replies: @Eonic
  201. @Boss Hogg

    They didnt care about industry, as was right with their culture. Your “middle class” was thrown away like a cum rag as they ceased to be a good propaganda tool against the commies.

    Anyhow, the “achievements” of muttmerica are only adequate to be compared against apefrican mudhuts and feathers decorated tents.

  202. @SimplePseudonymicHandle

    I’m not really American, so I’m not the one to lead any kind of movement. The Anglos can do as they will. What they have wanted to do so far is worship Jews and Afrohominids, so I don’t trust them to do anything sensible in the future.

    • Agree: HeebHunter
  203. @Ray Caruso

    ….Chileans love laws and are proud to be law-abiding.

    Maybe in some aspects but, universally? No way.

    I was not in that country 5 hours, on a tourism trip, when my camera was snatched right off my body. We spent the next 8 days carefully watching when walking the streets and regularly noticing groups of two young males sizing us up for more theft. We avoided it happening again but, only by careful attention paid.

    Then you notice bars on doors and windows everywhere and nothing left on patios, etc. Chile, like other South American countries, has a deep culture of THEFT.

    Then, you notice the excessive number of workers putzing around at the Hertz rental booth at Santiago airport or the THREE paid workers on a regional bus! The driver, the money taker and the guy that makes sure the money taker isn’t pocketing some of the cash. Absurd and an astonishing waste of resources.

    Law-abiding? C’mon, don’t make me laugh.

    • Replies: @gatobart
  204. @Vojkan

    Not only has (((COVID-19))) not been “isolated” (i.e., proven that it exists) the “vaccine” for it isn’t even a vaccine.

    According to Dr. David Martin:

    This is not a vaccine. We are using the term “vaccine” to sneak this thing under public health exemptions. This is a mRNA packaged in a vat envelope that is delivered to a cell. It is a medical device designed to stimulate the human cell into becoming a pathogen creator. A “vaccine” is a legally defined term under public health law…. A vaccine specifically has to stimulate both the immunity within the person receiving it, but it also has to disrupt transmission. And this is not it.

    • Replies: @Vojkan
    , @Commentator Mike
  205. Vojkan says:
    @Maowasayali

    I claim no significant knowledge in the field but from a strictly logical point of view, the observed effects seem consistent with that explanation.

  206. Mefobills says:
    @Tom Verso

    The reform economist Michael Hudson writes and speaks volumes all over the internet. Yet, his criticism is about Wall Street and the Elites and the Oligarchs.

    He is a highly influential economist. He has advise national governments all over the world.

    But, he never criticizes elite people or families let alone ethnic groups,

    What do you think would happen to him, or his career if he did as you suggest?

    • Agree: Mefobills
    • Replies: @Tom Verso
  207. @Maowasayali

    Dr. David Martin

    That is one guy’s opinion. And for each such Dr. how many other Drs. can be found to deny this? Hundreds? Thousands? Tens of thousands? Why should I go with a tiny minority of Drs. opinions instead of the vast majority of Drs.? So all the others, the vast vast majority of Drs., are evil and these few guys are out to do the really good Dr. work? Well, I’m not convinced.

    • Replies: @Vojkan
  208. gatobart says:
    @The Real World

    Chile, like other South American countries, has a deep culture of THEFT.

    The US and most European countries have a History of theft, piracy, genocide and drug trafficking a thousand times worse, and one much longer, than that of any country in the Global South, in Latin America, Africa or Asia. For starters, the Spanish have been plundering the Americas for five centuries already, first they stole the gold and the silver from Peru (which was then taken from them at gunpoint by the British, then an impoverished tribal people, who used it to build a worl wide empire.) And the theft didnt stop with the so called Independence, even nowadays Spanish MNs installed in neoliberal Chile own many things that the Pinochet regime sold them at bargain prices. Chileans pay for their drinking water abusive prices to Spanish companies and that is only part of it. And the story in the rest of the Americas is similar. Many if not most European monuments, cities, palaces, castles, banks, civil infrastructure, has been made possible thanks to the loot from the South; whole empires have been built with the gold stolen from the Americas and the slave labor from Africa and Asia. Both world wars were nothing more in fact that the fight among thieves for the loot taken from the Global south. The Bristish Empire was built with the gold stolen from the Spanish and with a world wide web of drug trafficking and slave trading. Yet, when people of those continents travel to Europe, specially Spain, they are the ones looked upon with distrust…! They, who couldnt get back a gazillionth of what the Spanisg took away from their them by stealing purses or wallets!

    By the culture of theft, piracy, drug trafficking and genocide inflicted by White Europeans against the people in the South reached its peak during the XX Century with the advent of a new world power, turned into a world superpower after WW2. Everything the Europeans had done in those fields against the people oft he global South the U.S, did it bigger, deeper and far more predatory. All the wars of the U.S, ever since the war of 1898 in Cuba had been predatory wars. wars to steal at gun point the riches from some country, empire. and to crush to death anyone daring to oppose it, the most predatory, genocidal, enterprise in History. One that has lasted already for 120 years and from which no continent or country has escaped unharmed. Yet, when Latinos go to the U.S. they are the ones looked upon with mistrust and contempt. regular people fearfully check their wallets and purses, the same White Yankees which fathers have stolen from those Latinos trillions and trillions times whatever the others could possibly take back from them even if they spent their whole lives on it! But of course by someone who has been brainwashed for all of his life with the image of the clean, nice, decent, fair and democratic White European as opposed to the dirty, dark scoundrel of the South nothing of this is real, nothing has happened

    Oh, the whole American continent was already a steal, the biggest in Human history, an entire continent stolen at gunpoint by White European from their rightful owners.

    • Agree: HeebHunter
    • Troll: Achmed E. Newman
  209. Carolyn says:

    I visited the beautiful Chile years ago. I saw Colonia Dignidad, the cult compound with a German restaurant where Nazis escaped to and practiced MKUlta mind control at. The waiter at the restaurant I will never forget. A tall teutonic blonde with pixelated eyes– I never saw anything like that until AOC appeared on the political scene. Now, the Karen’s, the Dems and the masses all have those eyes.

  210. Tom Verso says:
    @Mefobills

    He’d be out of work in the morning!

    I take your meaning and agree.

    • Agree: Mefobills
  211. Anon[944] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dumbo

    Yes, American WNs know in general very little about Brazil and imagine its population as a giant brown or black mass,

    Prove it you ignorant animal. I want proof that you can see inside others’ minds and know what they are imagining or not imagining.

    Maybe you ignorant asses who want to spout off about Brazil when you have never been there and are mostly just here to paint conservatives and libertarians as being “Alt Right,” “WN,” and “Jan 6th Insurrectionist Q Followers” could look up some worldwide homicide statistics? Or are you too stupid to do that?

    We will never be allowed to have our own discussions. There will always have to be horse’s asses like these communists who insert themselves into discussions that have nothing to do with them to muddy the waters and make a mockery out of everything. And they NEVER STOP. They just keep babbling and babbling nonsense 24 hours a day. Come back years later, and they’re STILL HERE TYPING AWAY. As if they had never even taken a break to have a nap or a sandwich.

    • Replies: @The Real World
  212. Malla says:
    @Blissex

    What you call “Left” and “Marxism” is virtually non-existent

    This is stupidity. Marxism is ubiquitous and supported by big finance like it always has been.

    Globalism is usually just a consequence of financialism.

    Marxism and Financial Capitalism are both Globalists. Marxism aims for international Socialism, “Worker’s of the World Unite”.

    Financialism has been making such huge fortune

    The long term aim of financialism is Communism. Communism is not about equality (that was only the bait), it never was. Communism was always about control.

    • Replies: @BlackFlag
  213. Malla says:
    @gatobart

    Many if not most European monuments, cities, palaces, castles, banks, civil infrastructure, has been made possible thanks to the loot from the South

    Yes which explains why Spain and Portugal industrialized so much earlier than Germans!! “Loot from the South” had very little to do with European prosperity.

    . Both world wars were nothing more in fact that the fight among thieves for the loot taken from the Global south.

    That may be true for WW1, Ww2 was entirely different. WW2 was basically the Zio slave nations of USA, Uk and USSR ganging up on Germany and Japan. Germany because they had come with an alternative system than both the Zio controlled Financial Global Capitalism and Bolshevism.Japan because it stood in the way for the (planned) spread of Communism in the Far East.

    By the culture of theft, piracy, drug trafficking and genocide inflicted by White Europeans against the people in the South reached its peak during the XX Century

    Bullshit, peoples of the South were pirating against each other from time immemorial. India was looted out by Iranian Emperor Nadir Shah even before the British conquered Delhi. European Empires lost money on their colonies many a times.

    Yet, when Latinos go to the U.S. they are the ones looked upon with mistrust and contempt. regular people fearfully check their wallets and purses, the same White Yankees which fathers have stolen from those Latinos trillions and trillions times w

    Blabberings of a childish monkey. Even if some Gringo Company had been Stealing from the global South, only a tiny percentage of White Americans were involved with the said companies. While on the other hand, Hispanics on average do have far higher crime rates and low trust societies then WASP Americans.

  214. Biff says:
    @GMC

    So sad a country can implode on itself like that. Bolshevik revolution 2.0 really.

    My moment was post hippie revolution when there weren’t any cops anywhere to a saturation of cops everywhere cracking down on every single minor infraction – then they became militarized – and the worst part; kicking down doors and ransacking homes.

    • Replies: @GMC
  215. Malla says:
    @anyone with a brain

    And worse thing, Brazil is full of those same crackpot feminists and floatsome that one gets in the USA.

    https://artreview.com/33-metre-vagina-sculpture-in-brazil-attacked-by-far-right/
    33-metre vagina sculpture in Brazil attacked by far-right

    A three-way culture skirmish has broken out in Brazil over a largescale piece of land art in the state of Pernambuco. Juliana Notari’s installation, Diva (2020), takes the form of a vulva, excavated from the earth.

    Supporters of Jair Bolsonaro, Brazil’s far-right president, were first to take exception. Others complained about the use of public money in creating the work, which was commissioned for the Usina de Arte botanical gardens with the Museu de Arte Moderna Aloisio Magalhães.

    Bolsonaro has repeatedly attacked the arts and threatened cultural funding budgets. During his election campaign he railed against ‘big-time artists’ who he claimed were getting rich off public money.

    The piece of land art, unveiled last week, was carved into a former sugar cane field, and covered with painted resin in reddish tones. The artist explained that she wanted it to represent both the female anatomy and a wound by way of a feminist comment.

    • Replies: @mike99588
    , @Bert
  216. @Malla

    That guy in the second video is such a whiner. People screaming in the street at 1 am? Not much of an issue, I have to say.

    He’s surely the kind who imagines life in the “First World”, in the US in particular, to be paradise. He’s ugly enough to be considered part of the new BLM master race, so he might actually enjoy living in this cesspool. He can have it, as far as I’m concerned.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
  217. @Anon

    I want proof that you can see inside others’ minds and know what they are imagining or not imagining.

    That kind of conduct drives me to the moon! Leftists engage in it all the time and I’m reading more commenters on conservative-leaning websites doing the same thing. It’s insane!

    Someone utters two sentences and the crazies instantly extrapolate that small bit to a defined (and ridiculous) conclusion that intelligent people would need to hear more and then ask at least 4 or 5 clarifying questions of the speaker/writer to get a solid sense of their meaning or intent.

    Just yesterday, I had a sibling I haven’t been around for years accuse me of having nefarious intent related to our sick, very elderly parent. That was based on me asking very direct questions and sourcing end-of-life type papers for review. It’s heavy stuff but, did he ask my ANYTHING about my thinking? ZERO. He went straight to paranoia and accusation!

    It feels like there have been MKUltra-type tactics being deployed nationwide for years, day-in and day-out, and people are becoming dramatically detached from freaking basic reality and rational conduct.

  218. gatobart says:

    “Loot from the South” had very little to do with European prosperity.

    Of course, Europeans were plundering the rest of the world as a hobby, some kind of sport, just to spend their leisure time on something else while building those cities, palaces, universities and castles which of course didn’t need any financing, they didn’t need money to pay for them, no gold, no silver, at these cities and monuments were rising from the ground cost free, like mushrooms…! Licensed British buccaneers were raiding Spanish outposts in the Americas and attacking gold-laden Spanish galleons only for the thrill, not out of need for the gold aboard. And the British Crown didn’t wage two wars against the Chinese because they needed to suffocate the immense potential China had as a possible competitor and a possible future world power but only because it was fun…! No, the new found prosperity for a bunch of impoverish, primitive and warlike tribes occupying the resource deprived stretch of land between Russia and the Atlantic, after they started sailing the world and plundering the global South, has absolutely nothing nothing to do with this plunder and this slave trading…It was just because of the magical abilities of the White European to create wealth and riches out of nothing.

    “Bullshit, peoples of the South were pirating against each other from time immemorial.”

    Right out the Israeli handbook for propaganda and disinformation. We kill Palestinians, so what, Arabs have been killing each other for millennia. I agree with the bullshit word, only that the shoe goes on the other foot. American Indians had been fighting wars for long before Europeans set foot on their land and stole it, so that gave Europeans the right to kill them by the tens of millions. Right. Given that logic, the Russians, or the Chinese, would be in their perfect right to invade Europe and exterminate every European in sight…because see, European have been killing each other for thousands of years anyway.

    As for the “childish monkey” part, I think that it pictures to perfection your own sad being rather than that of anyone else. I guess that name calling is the only one thing left to you because I am well out of range for any of your deuces. Only an ignorant dimwit could not understand the nature of the mass Latino immigration, specially illegal, to the U.S. Most of these people are peasants and shanty town dwellers in Central America who have been deprived of their land, their jobs, their livelihoods because corrupt and servile local civilian or military leaders have sold off to Washington and Big US business and given their lands, the companies where they worked, to US MNs. Anyone with a brain bigger than a pea can see the meaning of the fact that practically all the illegal immigration from LatAm to the US during the last decades comes from the three countries that the US destroyed and ruined in the last decades: Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador. The wretched masses flocking nowadays to the border are the sons and daughters of the poor who were murdered, tortured and imprisoned by CIA installed military dictators and CIA created death squads in those countries. People from the middle class are just a tiny fraction of any US bound immigration. Anyone with a brain bigger than a pea will get that.

    • Replies: @Malla
  219. Vojkan says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Either you believe in what you say, which would be disappointing given your past comments on other subjects, or you are repeating the arguments most people have used when you have tried to discuss the issue. Well, such arguments are indeed dismaying because they are no arguments at all, they’re fallacious reasoning.

    I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and give you the short answer first: because minus the “this is not a vaccine” part, how he says the mRNA concoction works is essentially how Pfizer, the concoction maker says it works, albeit he says it in much less consumer-friendly terms.

    Now about the argumentum ad populum, given that most doctors support one belief and only a tiny minority oppose it, we should go with the majority, combined with the argument of authority, I mean they’re doctors, aren’t they, they know their subject, combined with attribution bias, I repeat, they’re doctors, they’re good people, they care for people’s health. Except they don’t. Under governments’ pressure, using fabricated studies as the one published by the Lancet on HCQ, and minus a few exceptions like Pr. Raoult in Marseille, France, they have violated their Hippocratic Oath, they have left patients untreated. The vast majority of them have shown that they cared more for their public statute, their privileges, their careers and their finances than for their patients.

    You are free to trust whomever you want, my trust goes to those who care for their patients’ health and see more in them than just cash cows or biological automatons to be used as guinea pigs.

    • Agree: Maowasayali
    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  220. @gatobart

    Well, it seems that our rejects back then arent much better than what you are sending us now, lol

  221. anon[322] • Disclaimer says:

    Yates has complaints about Chile. He is very unhappy about something, but other than his complaints about the covid response, everything else is vague and is really just the the widely known and reported political protests.

    Covid has been a problem for most countries in the world. Chile seems to have managed to have vaccinated about the same proportion of its population as the US. However, it had a surge which appears to have peaked on April 14, the same day that the modest US surge peaked.

    Chile’s experience appears confusing, but their vaccination rate is dealing with seasonality, which is roughly the opposite of the USA, where c cases peaked Jan 14th.

    Chile is facing Autumn weather and more contagious variants as it vaccinates. The death rate has fallen however. Pus, their aggressive vaccination program used the Chinese made CoronaVac, which is thought less effective than others.

    Steven Yates appears to be a strong anti-vaxer. Which is fine, but a different argument and one I am tired of discussing.

    • Replies: @gatobart
    , @gatobart
  222. @gT

    I have never set foot in South America, but I’m sure they don’t like being called third world. It’s a silly term, and far too broad, like left vs right.

    • Replies: @gT
  223. @Greg S.

    No government = no tyranny.

    I have to take issue with this statement. The fact of the matter is that nature abhors a vacuum. IF there is not a certain level of government (backed with deadly force) greedy and power hungry people will set up their own collectives (gangs, or governments, whatever your preferred term) and start the cycle of oppression anew. No government is called anarchy, and it has never worked in all of human history on any significant scale. Another important REALITY is that small, politically disunited places have been historically easy prey to outside invaders. The Romans had one of the biggest governments of antiquity, and used their legions to subjugate far freer peoples across the known world. The British isles were nearly conquered wholesale by war bands of Norwegian and Danish Vikings who almost never numbered more than a couple thousand. Besides the longboat, this was mostly due to the fact that the isles were split into dozens if not hundreds of small states. There are pros and cons with most courses of action, and what level or form of government is no different.

    My thesis remains: show me how an actual implementation of a small government system could enforce a tyranny.

    Tribal rule is certainly local, and is a form of small government. Most tribal societies at one point practiced human sacrifice, slavery, and what modern man would consider the worst kinds of tyranny and abuse. Although small, local governments have merits, they are also ripe for horrible abuse by a strongman who is craftier, tougher, and more ruthless than his peers. While I generally agree with the idea of limited government, the people who are running the system are a bigger factor than the system itself. I think you are getting caught up in the idea that just having a small government is an easy fix and solves the problems. This is not the case, and as I’m sure you realize if you take the time to think about it, designing any complex system or machine requires MANY moving parts and contingencies. Human societies are no different.

    For example, one of the CRITICAL factors in the classic American idea of small government and freedom is the military technology of the day in terms of inexpensive firearms. During the 18th and 19th century, it was feasible for small numbers of motivated commoners with muskets and courage to keep at bay trained soldiers. This was much more difficult (or impossible) in the 16th century or before, when even vastly outnumbered knights or professional soldiers could rout almost unlimited numbers of peasants. Today as well, we the “peasants” are far more outmatched than they were in the age of the founding fathers, competing against drones, electronic warfare, global government, etc.

    There is a reason that the wilderness that modern man thinks of as so free and beautiful was hated and feared by our forebearers. Besides just the challenges of surviving without community, isolated and unprotected people were easy targets for raiders and marauders. People lived in towns and cities not because they were lazy and stupid, but because truly making it on one’s own was nearly impossible.

    Anarchy is a pipe dream for juveniles. Big government often leads to tyranny. Limited government that is accountable is often the best balance, but the level of actual power and political unity varies depending on circumstances. the world is complicated, and a solution that works in one situation may not work in another, and the PEOPLE running the system are more important than the system itself.

    • Agree: Arthur MacBride
    • Replies: @Greg S.
  224. Eonic says:
    @Corendon

    But you may find this very relevant with regard to so-called vaccines: https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=242205

    • Thanks: Greg S.
  225. @Vojkan

    I generally don’t trust the medical field much and have managed to get by staying away from those Drs. as much as possible. Unfortunately sometimes I do need them when all else fails and therefore I have to go by their recommendations and recipes. I’d prefer to buy whatever medicine, legal or illegal, without a prescription at a pharmacy or on the black market but that is not an option for me in this day and age without facing significant risks. So it’s all fine reading these minority dissenter Drs. but ultimately I have to deal with the others, the official ones, especially as I’m not getting younger. BTW I haven’t taken the vaccine but everyone I know who has has had no complaints about it and if anything their confidence has grown, and I hope it doesn’t turn out to be false confidence. Sure there have been medical disasters in the past and there will be more in the future but to suspect every single measure?

    • Replies: @Vojkan
  226. @JohnPlywood

    1) Love your neighbor as yourself.
    2) Love God with all your heart and soul.
    – On these two precepts hinge all the law and all the prophets.

    So, Mr Plywood (if that’s your real name), which part of this message do you find most disgusting, and why?

    Also, regarding several of your earlier comments regarding so-called Capitalism, it would be wise to remember that the term Capitalism was invented by that great humanitarian Karl Marx. He coined the term as an intentional pejorative.

    The real term is Free Markets. A system where people come together to engage in transactions that are mutually beneficial. Nothing more, nothing less. If it were not beneficial to both parties, they would not do the deal, plain and simple.

    It also incorporates an understanding of an intelligent market. That is the concept that the market itself is intelligent. What that means is that people on an individual basis know what benefits them and act accordingly, Taken in the aggregate, hundreds of millions of individual transactions every day in a truly free market has an intelligence all its own. No outside manipulation is necessary or desirable. To the extent that GloboHomo Corp gets involved, it becomes less and less real Free Markets.

    The only role for government is to make sure it is a level playing field for all. The United States up until 1913 was a reasonably free market. What we have today bears little resemblance to a truly Free Market.

    • Replies: @stevennonemaker88
  227. some_loon says:
    @Vojkan

    My understanding is that vaccines, at least the conventional ones, require time to work.
    For a few days, at least, maybe longer, the inoculated person is actually more susceptible to infection, but eventually (days? weeks?) the person develops some protection. I have read that this is the conventional understanding of how it works, and not just someone’s angle-shooting.
    This is one reason why you get a flu shot before flu season, if you are going to do so at all, rather than when flu season is well underway (I never bother, but each to their own).
    This is also why it may be stupid for a nation to try to vaccinate its way out of something like Covid-19: the virus is already quite widespread, and exposure to it carries greater risks to the recently inoculated.
    I suspect that this explains surges in countries where lots of people got jabbed (Israel, maybe India), some of the jabbed getting sick, then spreading it when it was already raging in the population.
    Also the insistence on masking even after vaccination.
    Maybe this explains things better than depopulation conspiracies, Schwabian Resetting, Gates’s immuno-operating systems (as reliable as Windows 95), vaccine shedding, nano-chips communicating with satellites via 5G, and various other ‘mark of the beast’ 666ings.
    Though the increased death toll in a short-term can be used for propaganda purposes, especially as a subsequent sharp drop-off can be used to validate the vaccines in the public’s eyes.

    • Replies: @Vojkan
  228. Malla says:
    @Ray Caruso

    There is one more video of his where he complains that in the part of Brazil where he lives, people have to be on the lookout 24/7 to avoid their stuff being getting stolen.
    Here it is

    Things he hates about Brazil
    1] Noise on Street
    2] Insecurity 24/7 (people will steal)
    3] Prices (Many things are expensive w.r.t earnings)
    4] Celebrity Fan(atic) craze
    5] Government (response to Covid)


    5 things he loves about Brazil
    1] Great Food
    2] Warmth — People hug each other
    3] People are positive and try to get out of hard situations
    4] Kiss on the first date
    5] Great Natural beauty and diversity of nature

  229. mike99588 says:
    @Malla

    That notch in the ground looks kind of inflamed.
    Maybe a few tons of amoxicillin would help.

    • LOL: Malla
  230. Greg S. says:
    @stevennonemaker88

    You are correct to call me out on that statement, it’s bit oversimplified and I should have said “no BIG government.” You do need some form of government to have a society, and it has to have some teeth to enforce law and order. As with most things in life, either extreme is equally bad. No government at all is chaos. Huge government is tyranny. My main point is that we as humanity are most certainly into the latter. Big government systems are cancerous and self-perpetuating. They will always seek to grow bigger, and once they are too large, they will seek to expand their mandates in order to justify themselves and find reasons to grow bigger yet. The end result is tyranny. And the populations, who currently believe that government can and should resolve all of their problems, enable it. There are no easy solutions to this. I feel like we are currently witnessing an inevitable playing out of any government system that has been allowed to become outdated and corrupt: they always self destruct in the end and collapse, but usually with a period of brutal tyranny and mass death first. That’s what’s coming next if people don’t change course, which I believe is almost impossible at this point.

    • Replies: @stevennonemaker88
  231. GMC says:
    @Biff

    Ya I agree – my Homestead in Ak was in the Alaska range and dozens of miles from any road – I used an old cessna 170 for over 20 years to get in and out and I had a place on the road system . It didn’t matter – the Establishment has planes, choppers, boats of all sizes and they will always have treasonists to work for them . Crimea is not a bad place to hang out, and I have more freedom than the Lower 48ers do – I go anywhere and rarely see cops , even when I travel thru out Southern Russia – the populace seem to be quite self policed. Language is tough tho . Very few people speak english – the Ukies spoke more english , when this place was Ukrainian – it seems. Hey – I enjoy reading your posts – keep thinking ! Spacibo

  232. @George True

    Thanks, George. Plywood’s thinking ability is similar to that of plywood, so don’t expect an intelligent response : )

  233. @Greg S.

    You do need some form of government to have a society, and it has to have some teeth to enforce law and order. As with most things in life, either extreme is equally bad.

    I agree. Life can be considered a big balancing act, where being off on either side will result in a negative outcome.

    Huge government is tyranny. My main point is that we as humanity are most certainly into the latter. Big government systems are cancerous and self-perpetuating. They will always seek to grow bigger, and once they are too large, they will seek to expand their mandates in order to justify themselves and find reasons to grow bigger yet. The end result is tyranny.

    There is alot of truth to this statement. Institutions almost inevitable drift from their original purpose and become self justifying bureaucracies. It is a constant battle to keep government accountable. As Franklin (allegedly) said: “A republic, if you can keep it”. And with the Great reset agenda, it looks like we are increasing headed over a cliff (or are already falling). We do live in unprecedented times, with lockdowns (2020) from the Russian east through the American west.

    thanks for the interesting discourse!

  234. @gatobart

    That was a massive digression from the present-day point being made.
    Maybe it has some value, I didn’t bother reading it.
    I much prefer linear dialogues rather than hijacked ones.

    • Replies: @gatobart
  235. gT says:
    @stevennonemaker88

    Ha! ha! Someone who admits to staying in Guatemala in Central America (comments 99 and 148) claims that he has never set foot in South America. That is what is called splitting hairs – “making unnecessary distinctions between things when the differences between them are so small they are not important”. All the countries south of America are the same, they all speak the same language (ok Brazil speaks Portuguese, the rest Spanish, same difference), and all are Banana Republics. The term Banana Republic originated in Honduras, which is right next to Guatemala in Central America. On wikipedia is says and I quote

    “Together with other American corporations, such as the Cuyamel Fruit Company, and with occasional support from the United States government, the corporations created the political, economic, and social circumstances that established banana republics in Central American countries such as Honduras and Guatemala.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_republic

    Everything south of America is South America.

  236. Robjil says:
    @Dumbo

    Even though Chile is largely vaccinated. There is a “Chilean” variant of this Covid. Brazil has a variant too. These two variants have “traveled” to mostly vaccinated Israel.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-first-time-brazilian-chilean-coronavirus-variants-found-in-israel/

    For the first time, Israelis in the country were found to be infected with variations of the coronavirus that have spread in South America, the Health Ministry said Monday.

    A vaccinated man and a baby were found to be carrying the Brazilian variant, while the Chilean strain was found in another vaccinated adult, the ministry said in a statement.

  237. Malla says:
    @gatobart

    No, the new found prosperity for a bunch of impoverish, primitive and warlike tribes occupying the resource deprived stretch of land between Russia and the Atlantic, after they started sailing the world and plundering the global South

    This is stupidity par excellence. Western Europe was already going ahead of the rest of the World (the Great Divergence) in per capita income before colonialism started.

    No, the new found prosperity for a bunch of impoverish, primitive and warlike tribes occupying the resource deprived

    Again the fartings of a diseased monkey. Europe was technologically going ahead of the rest of the world in many respects way before colonialism started. Even during the Crusades, Europe was more or less equal to the Arab World.

    American Indians had been fighting wars for long before Europeans set foot on t….exterminate every

    I never said that just because Native Americans were killing each other Europe had the right to conquer Americas. I am contesting the fallacy that the Europeans were unique evul and non Europeans were all saints. This is the kind of propaganda floating all around. Nearly all of humanity attacked each other, Europeans were just more successful.
    Actually there are one people who justify their rape and plunder with similar logic. Just because we Hindus destroyed Buddhists before us, the Islamic hordes got the right to rape, plunder and conquer Hindus in India. I have seen this logic thrown around quite a lot.

    Most of these people are peasants and shanty town dwellers in Central America who have been deprived of their land, their jobs, their livelihoods because corrupt and servile local civilian or military leaders have sold off to Washington and Big US business

    US big businesses might be assholes but why didn’t US big business not stop South Koreans, Singaporeans, Malays, Taiwanese, Emiratis, Saudis, Kuwaits etc… from becoming rich?
    These are just excuses.

    And by contributing to the US economy via illegal immigration you make the USA even stronger? You make your Gringo Corporation Enemies Richer by providing cheaper labour? Why ? So that they can go loot more? That is stupido. Is this some Stockholm Syndrome to serve US GloboCorp?

    • Replies: @gatobart
  238. Robjil says:
    @gT

    Here is the full story about how the banana republics came to be in Central America. The US became on 12.23.1911. The US has been bananas ever since, all over the world.

    https://jewishweek.timesofisrael.com/strange-fruit/

    His new book, “The Fish that Ate the Whale: The Life and Times of America’s Banana King,” tells the story of Samuel Zemurray, a poor Russian Jewish immigrant who arrived in America broke, in 1891, and went on to become one of its wealthiest and most powerful citizens.

    This is how he became rich.

    He financed the coup of the Honduran government in 1910, and got the U.S. government to help overthrow the Guatemalan government in 1954 — both of which had disastrous consequences for each country. The Guatemalan coup alone resulted in three-decades-long civil war that resulted in 200,000 deaths.

    Israel came into being because of these banana republics in Latin America.

    And when the initial vote to create the Jewish state failed at the United Nations in 1948 — but was close enough to allow for a re-vote within 72 hours — Zemurray went to work.

    From his mansion in New Orleans (later donated to Tulane, and now the university president’s house), he called several Latin American leaders and got enough of them to switch their votes. “Knowing about the work of Zemurray,” Cohen writes in his book, “certain yes votes that might otherwise seem mysterious — Costa Rica, Guatemala, Ecuador, Panama — suddenly makes perfect sense. Behind them, behind the creation of the Jewish state, was the Gringo pushing his cart piled high with stinking bananas.”

    • Thanks: stevennonemaker88
  239. gatobart says:
    @anon

    “Yates has complaints about Chile. He is very unhappy about something, but other than his complaints about the covid response, everything else is vague and is really just the the widely known and reported political protests”

    I can tell you this as a certain thing. What people in Chile complain most about these days are three things:

    a) Out of control criminality. It is not that the country is full of thieves and murderers but that the Courts are extremely tolerant on crime, even violent crime, and many if not most muggers and other assorted perps are left go with not even a slap on the wrist even after committing murder or rape, or both. Many think that this is because judges are corrupt themselves and some assume they may even be taking their piece of the action.

    b) Widespread corruption in public servants, from the members of the government down to anyone working for the government. That includes ministers, members of Congress, and the suspicion even covers the military, the police forces (the carabineros) and even something as traditionally sacred as the Catholic Church. In a few words, Chileans believe by now that almost everyone in public life is corrupt. What is rather telling is the fact that most South Americans flocking to Chile, many as illegals, as a land of freedom and prosperity, think that the country is paradise on Earth compared to their own.

    c) Related to b) out of control illegal immigration from other countries in South America and Haiti, specially from Colombia and Venezuela. Northern Chile has become more or less “El Norte” of the South. For same reason people in South America has come to believe Chile is the Southern version of Sweden or Canada and so they, specially the poorest of the poor, behave as if it was.

    Most Chileans agree that these 3 are the main problems the country faces, besides the very unfair distribution of wealth of course, but there has been no political movement, or person, capable of channeling their indignation into a legitimate mass movement. like is used to happen until 1973. Most agree that that the entire political class is worthless, corrupt and that every single politician and member of Congress should be sent packing and then new people should be elected to positions of power. But no one knows where they could get these “new people’. Also, the Chilean Left is a sad pathetic caricature of the one that brought Allende to the Moneda and all its representatives seem able to do is to add to the chaos by fomenting disorder, pillaging and mayhem, even celebrating the destruction of property and that of buildings and institutions that provide jobs for the working class. They also tend to defend criminals that are caught, wounded or killed by police. In fact the Left has turned into the main cheerleader and promoter of criminality (“all forms of struggle are legitimate”).

    • Agree: Levtraro
    • Replies: @BlackFlag
  240. @gT

    Ha! ha! Someone who admits to staying in Guatemala in Central America (comments 99 and 148) claims that he has never set foot in South America.

    Guatemala is not in south America. Pennsylvania is not in Sweden. Chocolate is not poop. Dogs are not pigs. Cars are not tractors. You however, are an idiot.

    That is what is called splitting hairs – “making unnecessary distinctions between things when the differences between them are so small they are not important”. All the countries south of America are the same, they all speak the same language (ok Brazil speaks Portuguese, the rest Spanish, same difference),

    There are many major and important Racial, Political, Geographic, Economic, and other differences between the countries of South America, and between the countries of Central and South America. The fact that you are ignorant or do not care is your own problem. Suriname in South America has Dutch as the official language. Guyana and Belize (C.A.) have English as the official language. You are wrong there as well.

    Your post was pathetic, and you have shown no regard for truth or reality.

    • Replies: @The Real World
  241. gatobart says:
    @anon

    “Chile’s experience appears confusing, but their vaccination rate is dealing with seasonality, which is roughly the opposite of the USA, where c cases peaked Jan 14th.

    Chile is facing Autumn weather and more contagious variants as it vaccinates. The death rate has fallen however. Pus, their aggressive vaccination program used the Chinese made CoronaVac, which is thought less effective than others.”

    Chile is currently among the countries which has vaccinated the most of its people per pop. in the world. On the other hand many have earnestly jumped into the “Despite the Chilean roll out, cases keeps increasing” bandwagon. Yet many, including me, have kept saying that the final results of the massive Sinovac vaccination in Chile will appear only by mid-May so any increase in daily cases by this time could be attributed to a multitude of reasons (people who got too confident after being pinched, the summer excesses, etc). Now, since a few days ago the daily number of cases has dramatically decreased, almost to the half, but I think it is premature also to draw conclusions by this time. As I wrote already, most Chileans are deeply suspicious of the Government, from Pinera down to the last bureaucrat, and so many assume that this is simply statistical manipulation, that the only reason of this “fake decrease” is the fact that el Dia de la Madre is coming next May the 9th, and the government is trying to use it as a pretext to give a respite to business and shop owners, as this day is almost as important as Christmas for them. It goes to show how much, or rather how little, Chileans have come to trust the elected. Anyway, only time will tell how effective the Sinovac roll out was.

    • Replies: @anon
  242. Malla says:
    @Ray Caruso

    Speaking of Brazil, there is an awesome Brazilian movie I would recommend. One of the most anti-woke movie you could ever see. The reality of ruthless drug traffickers in flavelas, police corruption, leftist woke naive middle class naive Brazilian college students who do not understand how the world works brainwashed by their Marxist professors and listening to songs like “F..k the Police’. Two of those Brazilian kids doing social service in the flavelas get brutally killed by gangsters. This move could destroy dumb childish Wokes and leftards as it shows raw reality. BLM destroyer.

    ELITE SQUAD (TROPA DE ELITE) Trailers
    ELITE SQUAD (TROPA DE ELITE) is about BOPE, the elite police squads on Rio and it is an intense and astonishing look at Rio de Janeiro’s notorious favelas, the volatile slums on the edge of the city. The film is set in 1997 and presents an intimate look at the city’s vast and intricate web of corruption.

    Drug trafficking militias have virtual control within the favelas while the police run their criminal enterprises outside. The elite BOPE force (State Police Special Operations Battalion) combats drug trafficking –keeping order has its price though and their actions make it difficult to distinguish right from wrong and justice from revenge.

    BOPE Captain Nascimento (Wagner Moura) is facing a crisis: in addition to the pressures of fighting within war zones, the Captain must find and train his own replacement so he can escape the day to day violence and be close to his wife who is about to give birth to their first child.

    Two of the force’s newest recruits, Neto (Caio Junqueira) and Matias (André Ramiro), are childhood friends: one is quick on the trigger to maintain order and the other refuses to compromise his ideals. Together they are the perfect replacement. Alone they may not have what it takes to survive.

    You might get the movie free on youtube with English subtitles.

  243. gatobart says:
    @Malla

    I got it, the fewer legitimate arguments you have to defend your limited views, the more you resort to gratuitous insults and name calling. So typical. You are not worth spending one more single second arguing with. In any case, i will be waiting for someone else to present similar views, if there is anyone, in a more civilized manner.

    • Replies: @Malla
  244. gatobart says:
    @gT

    Everything south of America is South America.

    Correction: Everything south of America is called Antarctica. Maybe you know something the rest of us don’t, but I have never ever seen a map, an Earth globe, where an individual country is shown as America. Of course, there is a whole continent with that name, but a single country…? Uh, no.

  245. gatobart says:
    @The Real World

    That was a massive digression from the present-day point being made.

    I know. And I feel your pain. That is why the descendants of pirates, drug traffickers and slave traders use to give themselves honorific names and titles and why they build luxurious, immaculate palaces where they welcome the cream of society, just to make the world forget from where their wealth really came. And that crossed the Atlantic to the U.S. and stayed there. That is why European themselves are such suckers for their own royalty, they have completely ingested their Kool-aid and flown into that fantasy land of heroes who save princesses in distress, while the black, brown, red and yellow people of the South look at them with wonder and amazement. Because they remember it all too well.

    BTW, professor, I wasn’t the one who hijacked the subject in study by calling Chile a nation of thieves. That was YOU.

    • Replies: @The Real World
  246. Alfred says:
    @Dumbo

    Jesuits were largely responsible for the education and assimilation of Indians in South America

    Jesuits were sent to China to try to convert the Chinese. They had a good go at it. A huge investment. But the Chinese outsmarted them. 🙂

    According to research by David E. Mungello, from 1552 (i.e., the death of St. Francis Xavier) to 1800, a total of 920 Jesuits participated in the China mission, of whom 314 were Portuguese, and 130 were French.[2] In 1844 China may have had 240,000 Roman Catholics, but this number grew rapidly, and in 1901 the figure reached 720,490. Many Jesuit priests, both Western-born and Chinese, are buried in the cemetery located in what is now the School of the Beijing Municipal Committee.

    Jesuit China missions

    • Replies: @Maowasayali
  247. Malla says:
    @gatobart

    the fewer legitimate arguments

    All my arguments are historically legitimate.

    defend your limited views

    Explain in what way? You are the one farting your limited, very popular and extremely false propaganda of Europe became rich by looting nonsense. You are the one who wants to stick to your false limited views because it massages your jealousy and ego. An idiotic theory which has led to poorer countries make stupid economic & social decisions, all driven by jealousy & envy which leads to even more poverty and shittery. Remember I live in the Third World, I am not some naive fool Whitey leftard idiot, who can be fooled easily. I have seen the problems of the Third World first hand. Most of our problems are due to the nature and behaviour of our popukation themselves. Deny it as much as you want, fool yourself, you cannot fool the Universe.

    name calling

    I am tired of people spewing these same nonsense and lies. Hence name calling.

    one more single second arguing with

    An argument you would sooo easily loose. Check out my commenting history, I have argued on this topic many many times and decimated this popular but false propaganda many many times.
    Europe was bound to become more successful and rich anyways especially Northern Europe, more so after the industrial revolution. Same with Japan. These were dues to many internal factors in these places not external areas,who frankly played minor role, if at all.

  248. anon[246] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rich

    1. I blame affirmative action and greedy management for the destruction of Detroit.

    Of course you do. How proud would you be to have Mulatto grandkids? Would you even push for abortion?

    2. How do you explain the coincidence that the peoples who accepted Christ rose so much higher than all other people and races?

    Tell us the many accomplishments of Ethiopians and other Christians in Africa compared to Japan or India or China.

    Until the triumph of Christianity, Europeans lived like most of the rest of the world, but after Christianity we grew to be the greatest of the races.

    The Christian White Man in America waged war against Germany under Hitler (if only from the machinations of Roosevelt and Co.) and let women vote and did nothing to stop Civil Rights. Even if you blame the Jews, the Jews were still able to amass influence despite being outsiders.

    If we were still worshipping trees, or statues, could we ever have risen so high?

    It’s embarrassingly obvious you’re ignorant on how pre-Christian traditions were actually done and are just spitting out what you heard from twitter memes and/or talking points from e-celebs. It’s amusing that Christoids like you turn full anti-European when speaking of how the White Man lived for the majority of his presence. From how your ilk spin it, pre-Christian Europe outside of Rome/Greece was interchangeable with the Congo until non-Whites “taught” the White Man.

    The gods for any knowing man were neither a larger and undying version of a human ala a superhero or merely senseless “forces of nature” ala modern spins to make them more accessible to woke or pro white man woke appropriators such as Varg. As if they did not differentiate between symbols or “extensions” of a god (like a statue or a forest or the ocean itself), and the gods themselves. Cicero in his writings told well on this.

    [MORE]

    Rome did very well, but a majority were slaves

    Ridiculous. Estimates don’t put the proportion of slaves in the imperial days as no higher than 15%. Many of which would be other Europeans. Not obvious racial outsiders like the Americas’ slavery. Meaning the slaves largely could be melded with the main stock of society with none of the danger of creating Brazil.

    the Germans were great warriors, but they made few scientific advancements

    Neither did the Slavs, Spaniards, Sicilians (spare me the “we wuz moors” memes), Central Europans during the time from the Dark Ages to the Industrial Revolution. Let alone the Negroes who are Christians.

    the Brits lived in mud huts where a father had sexual rights to his sons’ brides.

    Braveheart isn’t a documentary. Just letting you know. Anyway, whatever so called sexual rules you think represent the norm in Christianity rather than being what’s the case in modernity are not the case. See:

    For more on muh morals:

    https://aryaakasha.com/2020/07/30/homosexuality-and-the-germanic-weltanschauung

    /

    As much so you guys hate to admit it, the West rose when it embraced Christ, and declines as it rejects Him

    Jesus wasn’t European. Tell us more on how Europeans need Semites to build notable societies.Do you even read relevant books and papers? None of them show Creationism is right or that the Exodus happened.

    • LOL: Rich
    • Replies: @Rich
  249. @Alfred

    Never underestimate the deceit and conceit of the (((Jesuits))).

  250. S Mcgraw says:
    @Boss Hogg

    My wife is from Chile and we travel there every year. I was considering moving there before the Pandemic but I’m concerned about the totalitarian response by the oligarchs there and the willingness of most Chileans to eat up the false narrative surrounding this virus and the so called vaccines. Now I’m looking at relocating to a state in the US where the governor is doing something to oppose mandated vaccines so we won’t be forced to take this experimental gene therapy toxin. I’m hoping they won’t require vaccine passports to go to Chile because then I won’t be going back there ever.

    • Thanks: Skeptikal
  251. S Mcgraw says:
    @Boss Hogg

    I’m not surprised by the level of social engineering going on in Chile surrounding the virus. When you look at the history of Chile they were subjected to the most ruthless form of neoliberalism and this fake pandemic is just an extension of that.

    • Agree: acementhead
  252. Rich says:
    @anon

    You’re an angry young man who read a few historically inaccurate stories, written by men, and women, who were either hurting or angry and shook their fists st heaven. It’s common with the young, sad with the elderly. I recommend you attend a few Masses, sit in the back of the Church, there’s no charge. Maybe find a good priest or lay person, and learn the Truth. There’s always hope in the risen Christ. You, too, can find peace.

  253. @Malla

    Many of these Third Worlders function reasonably well in First World societies when they move there. So why can’t they create functional societies of their own so they don’t have to move anywhere else? Surely it can’t be that difficult to do, to copy something from elsewhere that they find attractive. Maybe there are HDB reasons for why those countries are the way they are but also imperialism wants them that way to exploit them better. It could be a bit of both. I’m not convinced that copying the West would be progress, but since most others seem to think so, even in the Third World, and even enough to want to move to it, what’s stopping them from creating a copy of it themselves? At least a good enough copy to keep them there.

    • Replies: @gatobart
    , @Vojkan
    , @Anon
  254. anon[136] • Disclaimer says:
    @gatobart

    Thanks for the thoughtful replies.

    Now, since a few days ago the daily number of cases has dramatically decreased

    https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=chile+covid+cases&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

    The UK is my personal “demonstration of concept” of how things are likely to go for moderately similar countries. Their death rate is now approaching zero. Around a 50% rate for the first jab plus a a moderate percent of recovered seems to do it.

    So I think your prediction is the most likely result.

    • Replies: @gatobart
    , @The Real World
  255. @gatobart

    I did nothing of the sort. You’ve now proven that your reading comprehension is sub-par AND you can’t follow a straight conversational line. Adios!

    • Replies: @gatobart
  256. @stevennonemaker88

    Way to smack him down, Steven. Sigh, yes, people who have not left American borders (or rarely) truly have no clue about the rest of the world and the distinctions of many regions and countries.

    I’ll bet an Argentinian would be pissed to be told, “Ahh, you’re the same thing as an Ecuadorian”.

    I just shake my head at some of these provincials…. they never learn.

    P.S. I have learned that Americans who have only ever lived in their home state/region DO NOT grasp that there are distinct regional cultural differences here! The NE and the SE USA are like two separate planets and the populations of each often don’t tend to be fond of the other because of that.

    • Agree: stevennonemaker88
  257. gatobart says:
    @Commentator Mike

    So why can’t they create functional societies of their own so they don’t have to move anywhere else? Surely it can’t be that difficult to do, to copy something from elsewhere that they find attractive.

    Why…? The answer is very simple but I trust someone who has grown up and having been fed from the cradle the usual pro US-EU propaganda to completely ignore the evident facts and truths despite them being in front of their eyes. You could by yourself come to the right conclusion but I see the brainwashing has been pretty effective on you too. Question: why do you think the Anglo empires spent the first half of the XX Century trying to suffocate and if possibly, destroy the emerging world power we know as Germany? Why they have always tried, in this endeavor, and to this day, to separate and if possible to make enemies of Germany and Russia/the USSR/Russia…? There you got the answer. because the Anglo empires don’t want competition, they have never wanted it, even less now when China is crowning her economic and military pawns. that is the reality you and most of those who have been fed the usual pro US, pro NATO propaganda are unable to understand. If both Anglo powers did their worst to prevent Germany from becoming a world superpower (allowing them in the end to become at least an economic superpower when they could occupy and control the country in 1945 and when China and the USSR had become the enemies to beat) and did the same with Japan, not even hesitating at killing hundreds of thousands in a nuclear holocaust, how good could have been the chances of any Latin American country, any Third World country for that matter, to engage in a successful modernization and industrialization process without having to fear US-UK-NATO aggression to a most brutal and violent extent? Both Saddam Hussein & Muhammar el Qadaffi did nothing but to try to accept currencies other than the USD for their oil and see what happened to them and their countries. But I see, according to your tunnel vision, Brazil, Argentina, Chile, could have easily done what neither Germany nor Japan could, to became world economic and industrial powers; the imperials in Washington/Wall Street and the City of London would have just stood aside, sent to heck the Monroe Doctrine and wished them Good Luck. Innocent child, why do you think Salvador Allende was toppled in Chile, why Juan Domingo Peron was it in Argentina, and Joao Gulart in Brazil and so on…? Because they wanted to modernize and industrialize their countries against the wished of the predators of the North who had already decided for them to stay as simple providers of cheap raw materials (copper, gold, meat, etc) and earnest buyers of their manufactured products. That is why your question is naive and only shows your ignorance. Empires are predatory entities that don’t accept competition and just like the mafias and criminal gangs use to do, they hurry to destroy any possible emerging entity with the potential to end their racket. That is why they pushed Germany into a corner and waged war in two occasions against her and that is also the root reason of the rabid present hostility against China in the so-called West. Of course you won’t accept those facts because nobody is talking about these subjects in CNN, Fox, the NYT or the WP. Or the CBC, the B BC or France Press. But those are the facts and everyone in this world except the brainwashed masses in the U.S. and Europe know them.

    BTW, one single example: During the 80s the government of Brazil tried to develop a local independent computer and software manufacturing industry and so they entered in deals with a French company. But that was intolerable for the Reagan administration so they threatened Brazil with severe economic sanctions if they dared to develop their own computer industry. As barefaced as that, yet no one in the MS M of the West considered the news worthy of even a short article. I was informed myself only because Le Monde Diplomatic, a French publication which was at that time still a honest, truthful media outlet that hadn’t sold out, published a two-pages article about it. I trust the same has happened hundreds of times around the world, with every possible country, but no one in the Western media has bothered to inform us about it. Fortunately by 2021 we don’t need these mercenaries as the empire has become so desperate of lately that it is now doing it openly, against Russia, China, even the EU itself. The only Third World countries that had been allowed to industrialize since WW2 are those that the empire decided to, for political and strategic reasons: South Korea, the best example. And China.

    • Agree: Alfred
    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  258. gatobart says:
    @The Real World

    “your reading comprehension is sub-par”

    If I had a nickel for every time someone has used the old, lame and dumb “Your English is not good enough” comeback line as an answer to any of my posts I would have by now enough money to marry newly-free Melinda Gates.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
    , @Anon
  259. @gatobart

    The USA and its Four and a Half Eyes (given New Zealand’s treachery re. China)and NATO stooges, plus the eminence gris, Israel, are the greatest force for Evil in history. And the last.

  260. @gatobart

    She might marry you for nuthin’. Have faith.

    • LOL: The Real World
    • Replies: @Truth
  261. Vojkan says:
    @Dumbo

    Jesuits were largely responsible for the education and assimilation of Indians in South America

    Well, there’s how British Jewish director Roland Joffé sees it in “The Mission” and there’s how Russian mathematician Igor Shafarevich’s sees in “The Socialist Phenomenon”,

    https://archive.org/details/SocialistPhenomenon

  262. Vojkan says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Though they aren’t officially colonies, their countries still are satrapies. Plus they’ve had unsustainable demographic growth.

  263. @anon

    Around a 50% rate for the first jab plus a a moderate percent of recovered seems to do it.

    Yes but, how do you factor into that the lowering of the cycle rate used in the PCR tests which automatically results in fewer positives “cases”?

    The WHO announced their recommendation of reducing the cycle rate on, LOL, I believe it was, the afternoon of Bimbo Biden’s inauguration. There can be no doubt that countries who did reduce that testing rate saw a noticeable decline in “cases” very shortly after.

  264. Truth says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    No Shit. You need money to marry the richest woman in the world. I’m thinking maybe you need to supply something she lacks?

  265. Vojkan says:
    @some_loon

    My take on loony conspiracy theories is that they are created on purpose, to discredit all critics of current policies by labelling them as nutty conspiracists.

    As for your understanding of vaccines, mine is the same as yours, for jabs based on the pathogen that causes the disease. None of the anti-covid jabs are based on the alleged pathogen, so we don’t really know. Though logically, vaccinated people should be quarantined for the time needed by their organisms to produce the right antibodies.

    Now, with regards to the whole Covid crisis, imho, there’s no real conspiracy behind it. Conspiracies usually don’t have shifting narratives; they usually have one to which the conspirators stick, even when it becomes obvious that it just doesn’t hold water, as for instance 9/11.

    No, Covid is more a crisis created out of opportunity that evolved how it evolved simply because Western elites are made of vain, greedy morons and because common sense has been replaced by magical thinking. To answer why countries adopted identical and equally inefficient measures to tackle the crisis, ask yourself what do dunces in a classroom do when given a test with a problem that they are unable to solve. They copy from the kid next to them, in their minds it’s better than to hand a blank sheet to the teacher.

    Out of opportunism, guided by magical thinking rather than common sense, governments created a situation without issue for themselves and that in turn created an opportunity for Big Pharma. There is nothing more to the story.

    As for Bill Gates’s role, did he create MS-DOS and Windows or did he appropriate somebody else’s work and renamed it? There is no doubt that the guy is rapacious but do you really think him of elaborating such a conspiracy?

  266. Vojkan says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Well, there are good doctors out there to whom the Hippocratic Oath still means something and if you find one who treats you as a human being, you should stick to him. I’ve had one in France, a Jew and a very good man. Here in Serbia, the only doctor who’ll see me is the one who’ll sign my certificate of death, and even then I’m not sure one will deign to come on site.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  267. Vojkan says:
    @Vojkan

    In the last sentence, “him capable of elaborating”.

  268. Corpdelia says:

    I investigated “intentional housing” projects in US, east coast, more than ten years ago. It turns out, they are nothing more than re-packaged condominium development scams. Maybe redundant, but expensive, inefficient and questionable quality. When I asked (with sincerity) in an open meeting, not to mention that it was facilitated by a trained consensus development NVC facilitator, how do intentional housing projects differ from conventional development ventures, I was nearly heckled out of the meeting and furthermore openly shamed individually, afterward. The organizer sits in a wheelchair, sorry, playing her handicapped card and I can still feel her glare upon me. These days she remains actively promoting intentional housing open houses and such using MeetUp to generate interest. Isn’t MeetUp supposed to be for social activities?

  269. BlackFlag says:
    @Malla

    Financial capitalism uses Marxism in order to push for further global integration. This is desirable because it leads to greater profits and more centralized control. In the end, true believer Marxists who believe in equality are “useful idiots” of financial capitalism.
    Is this accurate?

    • Replies: @gatobart
    , @Malla
  270. BlackFlag says:
    @gatobart

    Great summary. Number 1 and 2 are the chief complaints in virtually all of South America. COVID has exacerbated both. Number 3 only applies to Chile and maybe Argentina and Uruguay to a lesser extent.

  271. Levtraro says:
    @Malla

    Remember I live in the Third World, I am not some naive fool Whitey leftard idiot, who can be fooled easily. I have seen the problems of the Third World first hand. Most of our problems are due to the nature and behaviour of our popukation themselves.

    Speak for yourself, Chileans are incomparable more civilized and advanced than Indians.

    • Replies: @gatobart
    , @Malla
  272. @Commentator Mike

    Oh well, the more hysterical and bullying governments won’t get the thousands of dollars we’d spend visiting their countries, then. We’ll live.

  273. @Alfred

    Countries that do not impose this irrational requirement on visitors will see a sustained tourism boom.

  274. @Vojkan

    Good doctors (and dentists) are hard to find. I knew a few very good ones, mostly old experienced white men. I did think about staying close to them but then one does move and have to go through all the many incompetents yet again.

  275. gatobart says:
    @BlackFlag

    Financial capitalism uses Marxism in order to push for further global integration,

    Wow, I finally found someone who said it. I have always been astounded at the incredible naivete and ignorance of those self-professed anti-Communists who keep babbling about Marxism being dead, about Marxism being wrong, about Marxism being a wacky and unrealistic theory which has no place in the modern world anyway. blah, blah, blah and I have felt at the time the impulse to tell them the truth, but then I sigh and just say to myself, why, why waste my time with people who don’t know their own backside from their elbow. But anyway, what I would say to them is: Fools! Marxism is more alive than ever! In fact Marxism is the most popular economic doctrine at this day and age, In fact Wall Street is the most important user of Marxism! We are all Marxists! And then I would explain to them that the main and crucial contribution of Karl Marx to mankind is the idea, or the realization, that the basis for the entire human society is the economy, the goods and services Man produces and provides to others to make possible the existence of such society. And even more important, the way he produces them. That is what Marx himself called the infrastructure, upon it everything else., politics, religion, culture in general, rests, everything. Because see, until then. the mid-1840s, philosophers of History (which he appropriately denounced as nothing more than propagandists of the established order (“The dominant ideology is the ideology of the dominant class, the elite”) attributed Historic facts to every possible cause they could imagine, specially wars and revolutions (“This war here happened because King Bob hated Queen Mafalda”, “This other war happened because some prince from A kidnapped some chick from kingdom B”, etc) But then came Marx and said, like the Clinton campaign of 1992, “No, no, no! It’s all about the economy stupids!” He proceeded them to savage and ridiculed them in his little book titled The Misery of Philosophy one which everyone should read just to enjoy the humor in it. At one point for example he ridicules the “rebels”, the self declared opposition of his time, the fake dissenters who we use to call nowadays controlled opposition (are you listening, Alex Jones…?) which he said think of themselves as raging wolves roaring and terrorizing with their roars the tenants of the establishment when in fact they are nothing more than docile sheep bleating hopelessly, huddled at the center of the enclosure where their masters keep them captives. In any case, to wrap up, some may love Marxism, some may hate it, but no matter their position on it, like gravity and cellphones, everyone has to use it.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
    , @Malla
  276. @RadicalCenter

    Not necessarily as more and more people are being vaccinated. In the UK over 50% have had the first dose so far. And presumably most of those who travel have taken it. You can keep track of the progress of vaccination at

    https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

  277. gatobart says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Chile is in no way like Mexico or Peru, or Brazil, or Cuba when it comes to tourism. I have no numbers but I trust most of the tourism in Chile is local, Chileans going from one place to another. Chile has no Teotihuacan or Macchu Pichu, no Corcovado or el Cuzco so there is no much for the foreigner to come see in the country itself. In fact the two most frequented places I know of which attract foreign tourism are far, far away from the center itself: Easter Island, 4000 kms, from the continent, and the Towers of Payne, in the very south and foreigners who come to Chile come most of the time specifically to visit them. The Atacama desert could be the third place too. So I guess a gringo boycott to Chile in this regard won’t make much of a difference.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  278. @Vojkan

    I would encourage you to remove the words loony and theory (those two words evidence MSM programming, btw) and do some deep dive research on conspiracies.

    Serbia may not have many going on but I can you assure that America is overloaded with them! Locally, regionally and at the nation level it is epidemic.

    This provides a worthy start: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag

    Meanwhile, you’re entitled to believe as you like about Covid. I maintain that it is an engineered bioweapon and, indeed, a global false flag operation.

    • Replies: @Vojkan
  279. gatobart says:
    @Levtraro

    So the guy is an Hindu after all. It figures. After haring crossed paths with many of them in Montreal, Canada,where they form a sizable community, I have come to the conclusion that they see their abandonment by the British in 1948 as one of the greatest tragedies in their History and that they are still longing for the return of the Raj. Mahatma Gandhi was a fake, just as Nelson Mandela. He never meant true Independence for India, just a cosmetic one but the Brits misinterpreted him and they just left. And they are still crying for it. Just look at how envious they are they of the Chinese, who have become after all a truly independent nation and the world superpower they will never be, and how easy is for the Anglo Saxons to make them do their dirty job in that neck of the woods, specially against China and Pakistan.

  280. Malla says:
    @Levtraro

    Speak for yourself, Chileans are incomparable more civilized and advanced than Indians.

    Why write comments like a buffoon? I did not specify Chile, I was writing about the Third World in general and their idiotic understanding of history and why some populations succeed and some do not.

  281. @Malla

    Thanks for the rec, but I’ve seen these. They really are better than any US cop movie.

  282. Vojkan says:
    @The Real World

    I may again have lacked clarity. I don’t say that every story of a conspiracy is loony, I say that the looniest conspiracy theories may actually be created by conspirators to discredit all those who doubt official versions. I certainly believe that a conspiracy is behind 9/11.

    Regarding Serbia and Serbs in general, Americans have served us at least five false flags to justify sanctions and military aggression, four during the war in Bosnia-Herzegovina – including one at the very start of the war in which mostly Serbs waiting in line for bread were massacred and were presented as muslims killed by Serbs – and one to launch the war for Kosovo. They even tried to engineer a sixth during that war, a massacre of Albanian refugees in Kukesh, Albania, by the Serb aviation, with Christiane Amanpour and CNN cameras ready to report on it but we learnt of it in advance and accumulated evidence before it could happen. So I have no doubt about the methods the American “deep state” to keep the sheeple obedient and to advance the interests of the Jewish lobby and of what CJ Hopkins calls the GloboCorp.

    Now, with regards to the coronavirus, I don’t know in what lab it’s been created, heck, I don’t know if it even exists as to this day, it hasn’t been officially isolated, it may be a bioweapon but its effects are too random and bioweapons unlike chemical weapons usually have antidotes before they’re unleashed – they’re not shoot-and-forget, they can return as boomerangs and hit you if you’re unprepared -, and it does reek a “mad scientist” scent.

    However, I believe governments weren’t in any conspiracy when the whole thing started, as they were genuinely taken aback by the crisis unfolding and had totally out of synch, contradictory reactions. They simply didn’t know what to do. Maybe some evil mind did indeed plan the whole thing but I don’t think it was Schwab or Gates as they simply don’t have the intellectual capacity to pull off something that complex and I don’t think Trump or Macron or Johnson knew of the plan. I did say in a comment on this site a year ago that the whole thing resembled a giant psy-op but that psy-op wasn’t necessarily the result of a conspiracy. It may well have been that TPTB simply jumped on the opportunity to tighten their grip on society. It may well be that as they have shown time and again, they are incapable to predict let alone deal with the consequences of their actions and that Big Pharma saw that they had no idea how to escape from the trap into which they’ve put themselves and seized the opportunity to sell whatever concoction they come up with as a ticket out of the crisis.

    I think we often credit TPTB with way more intellectual capacity than they actually have. To paraphrase Bush the Lesser, let’s not “misoverestimate” them. The Covid crisis was far too complex with far too random possibilities of evolution for them to have planned it whole in advance.

    • Replies: @The Real World
  283. @gatobart

    Gringo is a rude derogatory racial / ethnic term, like spic. Other than that, thank you for the explanation.

    Our family will gladly visit and spend money in a country that does not impose foolish mandates re this badly exaggerated virus. We will do so to reward the country and go where we are treated like reasonably free, rational adults — whether they have many famous or easily accessible tourist sites or not. We’ll enjoy interacting with the people; making an attempt at the rudiments of conversation in their language; learning a little something about their culture and mindset; trying a broad range of their cuisine (and wine, if applicable 😉 and just being somewhere that’s sufficiently safe/stable but quite different than we are accustomed to.

    Of the people who hold out longer-term against submitting to these unnecessary “vaccines’, I wonder what percentage has sufficient disposable income to undertake foreign leisure travel. In other words, are vaccine refuseniks disproportionately from higher-income households, disproportionately from lower-income households, or neither?

    • Replies: @gatobart
    , @gatobart
  284. @gatobart

    Excellent. The Indian ruling class are beyond useless. The Chinese have bent over backwards to accommodate them, but all they get is gobs of spittle in their faces from deluded clowns who think that the glorious West actually likes them and treats them as ‘honorary Whites’. The laughable chimaera of ‘India surpassing China’ now being just a sad, sick, joke. they have been chosen, instead, to act as sacrificial lambs in military aggressions. Very sad, as many Indians, if freed of Hindutva fascism, caste malignancy and ‘democrazy’ could create wonders. For a start I’d put the admirable Sikhs in charge of economic policy and rural poverty reduction and empowerment. The Brahmins would hate that.

    • Replies: @Malla
  285. @Malla

    Look at this.

  286. Levtraro says:
    @gatobart

    Mmmh I don’t know. Marxism is also about class war which is not happening, the dictatorship of the proletariat which is not happening, ownership of the means of productions by the workers which is not happening, and the whithering away of the State in advanced communism which is not happening. The only thing marx-ish that is happening is central planning of the economy, what central banks and other state agencies do. So I think saying that Marxism is alive and well is more like a rethorical device.

    • Replies: @gatobart
  287. some_loon says:
    @Vojkan

    “None of the anti-covid jabs are based on the alleged pathogen, so we don’t really know.”

    True and true, but both the mRNA and the viral vector jabs provoke an immune response to spike proteins found in Covid-19, by making the body produce those proteins, if we are to believe what we’ve been told about these things.

    This, and the admitted side-effects to these substances, suggest to me that the immune system is being taxed post-jab, the jab setting up the right-cross and left-hook, maybe followed by an uppercut, or maybe a clinch and alternating knees if post-innoculation exposure a virus may be compared to these.

    So, while we ‘don’t really know’, it does look like a more severe version of phenomena that are known to occur with conventional vaccines, whatever is really happpening with this.

  288. some_loon says:
    @Vojkan

    “Conspiracies usually don’t have shifting narratives; they usually have one to which the conspirators stick, even when it becomes obvious that it just doesn’t hold water, as for instance 9/11.”

    I don’t know if this is really true. Maybe it is in politics.

    The police, etc. investigate conspiracies all the time. Interviewing/interrogating suspected participants often leads to subjects changing their stories, shifting their viewpoints, and ‘clarifying’ earlier statements.

    Politicans, etc. are more likely to hold the party line, though, however suspect, maybe as they are often in league with the more important investigators.

    CNN could end the lockdowns themselves, more than any government could. They have chosen not to.

    I don’t really know how much the ‘narrative’ of Covid-19 has really shifted. The demands made upon us have, but the grand claim that this is a ‘horrible civilization-threatening plague that the world must take unprecedented measures to mitigate’ has not changed, even when TPTB deny parts of the story.

    Various goalpost-moving statements have been tactical, as pursuasion is often by degrees and is a process, rather than an event. But all of it has reference to the above implanted idea.

    • Replies: @Vojkan
  289. @gatobart

    So the guy is an Hindu after all. It figures.

    Have you ever heard of Erich Koch ?
    He was in charge of the E Prussia Kommissariat then Ukraine after the Wehrmacht swept through in Op Barbarossa. The Ukrainians (mostly) welcomed the Germans as liberators and wished to assist their drive against judeo-bolshevism.

    However Koch treated them with contempt as untermenschen.
    He is widely reported as saying — “If I find a Ukrainian who is worthy of sitting at the same table with me, I must have him shot,” …

    This was when English and American Whites were bombing German White civilians in their heroic campaign for Mr Rothschild. Rather like your American antifa/blm whites burning your cities or enlisting in your army to bomb Israel’s enemies.

    Subsequently Koch organised the Volkssturm of old and disabled to counter the Red Army advance and then ran away leaving them to their fate.

    Perhaps, like Koch (who in some quarters is considered an Allied spy) you also wish to spurn potential or real allies/friends ?
    History shows how well that policy turned out.

    Alfred Rosenberg wanted to improve the education system in the Ukraine and build a university in Kiev. The Reich Commissioner for the Ukraine, Erich Koch disagreed and closed the schools saying, “Ukrainian children need no schools. What they have to learn will be taught them by their German masters.”

    https://spartacus-educational.com/GERkoch.htm

    • Replies: @gatobart
  290. Vojkan says:
    @some_loon

    Regarding your first reply, the very principle of making the body synthesise itself the pathogen against which it has to fight has a sort of cartoonish “mad scientist’s experiment” aspect. Now, if people tell you that mad scientists are great and that you are criminal because you doubt them, what can you do?

    Regarding the shifting narratives, suspects change their stories when they become suspect and start being afraid of getting caught. Governments changed their stories before anyone suspected them of anything. At first they said that it was ridiculous to consider there was any threat to public health, then as the dead started piling up in nursing homes, imho because of deplorable treatment rather than because of the virus itself, they exaggerated the threat. Then, out of fear that there actually could be effective treatments using HCQ or ivermectin that could cure patients, they started fearing that their successive reactions could betray their incompetence, they forbade their prescription, so that the epidemics could continue, knowing that it wasn’t as life-threatening as they pretended. While they looked for a face-saving way out, the dead elders and the occasional more fragile younger victim would come handy to support fearmongering.

    Then, a miracle happens, Big Pharma concocts jabs to stop a virus that is anyway in its death throes. Now they need people to get vaccinated because they cannot declare the end of the pandemics without mass vaccination because it would be an admission that Sweden or Belarus were right from the beginning. No, the only way this can end without them being proven to be criminally incompetent morons is that everybody gets injected.

    In short, they didn’t conspire, they just happen to be idiots and their “control freaks” side comes from their fear of people eventually noticing.

    NB: What I wrote is applicable to Europe. In the USA, things took a slightly different course as Democrats used Covid as a means to oust Trump.

    • Replies: @Alfred
  291. some_loon says:
    @Vojkan

    “As for Bill Gates’s role, did he create MS-DOS and Windows or did he appropriate somebody else’s work and renamed it? There is no doubt that the guy is rapacious but do you really think him [capable] of elaborating such a conspiracy?”

    I can’t say I’m all that well informed as to the history of computing, but it is well known that his role was simultaneously technical and entreprenurial, to answer your question (what prompted your question I do not know).

    There have been claims that others involved did not get due credit. Such is always the case. Did Edison invent the light bulb without help? Ford didn’t invent the automobile, right? Physio Control’s patent on the LifePak33 was successfully challenged. Or the guy who came up with intermittent widshield wipers. And what about the guy who invented the Pet Rock?

    Even Paul Allen got sidelined by Gates, it seems.

    So far as his current Corona plans, he’s rich enough if anyone is, probably smart enough, maybe has powerful friends enough, but I don’t think he’ll get it done. At least not this time.

  292. gatobart says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Gringo is a rude derogatory racial / ethnic term, like spic.

    I disagree. And I was born and grew up within the culture that uses it every day. Gringo, as used by Latinos in general, has a double meaning, depending… Depending on what…? Depending of the context. It is like the collective term used by Chileans (and others) to refer to themselves, the Roto Chileno. When Chileans praise the courage and bravery of their own ancestors during past wars with their neighbors, or to their own resilience during the natural disasters so common in the country, they refer to their collective as the Roto Chileno. But at the same time Roto is used, specially by the elite and the middle class, to refer to the lower strata of society, the poor and the wretched. It is also a qualifier and a noon to refer to the lack of manners and education of someone (Don’t fart while at the table, Don’t be roto, or a roto). Also, many Peruvians who are still hurting for their defeat in the War of 1879-84 call Chileans in general Rotos probably ignoring that in the context of their comments the word comes out like flattery. As Roto, Gringo isn’t in any way a term like spic, which is spiteful and hateful in ANY possible occasion. To me personally Gringo is anyone who was born in the U.S, and has English as his first language…and has the looks of it.

    • Replies: @republic
  293. gatobart says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Oh, BTW, an example just popped out of my mind which proves you wrong. That of “American” pop singer Dean Reed (who after showing Left wing tendencies and sympathy for the politics of the Soviet Block ended up emigrating to then East Germany, GDR, where he died) and who visited Chile during the Allende government to express his backing of the Chilean Socialist experiment. The local Left wing media used to call him El Gringo Choro (The Cool Gringo).

    Also:

    Our family will gladly visit and spend money in a country that does not impose foolish mandates re this badly exaggerated virus.

    Then there are very few countries you will be able to visit in the future, including almost all of the Americas, including Canada, where I live and where PM Trudeau is pondering about imposing vaccine passports. I don’t mean I agree with any of that, I am just talking about facts.

  294. gatobart says:
    @Arthur MacBride

    All that is well known so I can’t grasp what is your point. Maybe you are responding to the wrong tree…I mean post?

    “Rather like your American antifa/blm whites burning your cities or enlisting in your army to bomb Israel’s enemies.”

    And I have no idea what you are talking about. My cities…? My army? I didn’t know that the Chilean or the Canadian armies were into any of that.

    • Replies: @Arthur MacBride
  295. gatobart says:
    @Levtraro

    You are both right and wrong at the same time because you are referring to two different things as if there were just one: Scientific Marxism and Political Marxism. Only understanding this dichotomy you may get the whole idea. Scientific Marxism, a.k.a. Historic Materialism, is basically what I was referring to. To achieve it, Marx (and Engels) took apart the History of Civilization and analyzed the whole of it with a cold, dispassionate eye, trying to determine what was behind the events that had created this civilization, what had been the forces of change and evolution, and which had finally brought it to the industrial age. So they (rightly) concluded that it was something as simple as survival, the procurement of the basics to carry on living that all human need, and so society as a whole. That at first (Food, shelter and clothing) and for that primitive humans had to gather and cooperate and form a society (tribe, clan). Then, when some amount of surplus was produced there was always someone to appropriate it and use it to exert some kind of control over the rest of the crowd. That was what gave origin to an elite, to social classes and finally to class struggle. That is basically Marxism as a scientific doctrine, which has become generally accepted by everyone, a doctrine we know as Historic Materialism. Marx could have stopped at that but I guess he couldn’t help, he felt he had to “provide a solution, a way out” for all the troubles Man had found on his way to the industrial age, even more when he was personally witnessing the suffering of the lower classes, the nascent proletariat, and the greed and indifference of the upper crust of society, the Capitalist class. That is when, as a follow up, he took the task of turning this same knowledge of History into a political tool, a theory and an ideology for change. As a natural (for him) conclusion to his monumental work he proposed that there had to be a social and political revolution in which the nascent proletariat, the newly born class brought about by industrialization, should take power and then confiscate the means of production from the Capitalists so they would go on producing goods, and a profit, for the benefit of the whole of society and not just for the elite. That is basically Political Marxism, which as you point out, has shown to come up rather short of results more than a century and a half later. (Even if I would chalk up Communist China as the single most relevant success of Political Marxism, maybe the one which will be the historical game changer after all).

    In any case, you are deadly wrong when stating that “class struggle” is not happening. That is as wrong as saying that gravity or the Internet are not happening. Just look around you and tell me again that Class Struggle is not happening. What is really happening is that in this struggle the working classes have been taking a bad beating for decades already, especially in the so-called West.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
  296. @gatobart

    I can’t grasp what is your point.

    You surely cannot be so obtuse.

    My point is — obviously — on the foolishness of making enemies without due cause.

    It is about needlessly expressing contempt for others (who might be on your side) through arrogant dismissive phrases such as the one you used.

    • Replies: @gatobart
  297. Alfred says:
    @Vojkan

    they didn’t conspire, they just happen to be idiots and their “control freaks” side comes from their fear of people eventually noticing

    Forgive me for saying this. I think you are being naive.

    Governments did not conspire together. Governments received orders from higher authorities. All institutions had been penetrated and corrupted – my very own Imperial College is a good example. The politicians just carried out their orders. These orders changed to take into account local conditions and any resistance encountered. Moving the goal posts constantly – witness Fauci and Johnson – is called ghosting. It is designed to confuse and demoralise ordinary people.

    The whole thing was planned over 30 years ago. The false flags in Scotland, Tasmania and Christchurch were designed to confiscate guns. Efforts to confiscate guns in the USA did not succeed. Hence, parts of the USA are where the resistance is most likely to succeed.

    The divorce of Bill Gates is a massive hole beneath the waterline for those behind this scam. I really hope that Melinda Gates comes clean and tells the public what the plan is all about. Maybe I am being optimistic.

    Here is CNN trying to pretend that the divorce had nothing to do with the virus and the fake vaccines. Everything they say is false – unless proven otherwise.

    The ‘gray divorce’ trend: As the Gates split shows, more older couples are getting divorced. Here’s why

    • Replies: @Vojkan
    , @The Real World
  298. gatobart says:
    @Arthur MacBride

    Well, your point is as foggy as they come and please, don’t look for excuses berating and insulting the other part because right there is where I stop paying attention to people. Is this a regular habit in you…?

    In any case your Koch/Ukraine analogy is all wet and has no relation with the Hindu/British Empire case. Many Nazis were sympathetic to Ukrainians in their desire to break away from the Stalin regime and they warmed to the possibility of creating some client State right there that would be a precious ally in their fight against the USSR. They even integrated many Ukrainians in their military forces. Fact is, Ukrainians were pretty happy under Nazi control because they got from the Nazis the respect they wanted from people they thought were their racial kin. But Hitler crushed all these attempts at making Ukrainians feel welcome as part of the Reich because he couldn’t get over his own racism against Slaves. Quite different from the traditional attitude of the British towards the Hindus and all other dark skinned races. The worst of all their own boss Winston Churchill who referred once to Hinduism as a beastly religion for beastly people and who refused to send food aid to India when they were suffering a crippling famine and who explained himself “sort of”, arguing that they wouldn’t be having that kind of problem if they didn’t breed like rabbits. Hindus fighting for the Empire never got from the British the respect and recognition they probably deserved, and even less the general population, they were always treated with utter contempt. And so the rest of the dark skinned colonials. Even the much vaunted for their bravery gurkas fighting in the Falklands in 1982 were abandoned later as war vets. On the other hand, many of those fighting with the Nazis in Europe during WW2 felt they were being treated as brothers in arms and respected as such by the Germans. That is why your analogy is confusing.

    • Replies: @Malla
  299. HbutnotG says:

    All the discussed issues aside, you damned well better be OK with big earthquakes before you plan to live there. And Brazil? Ever hear of Loxoceles laeta? Brown recluse spider on steroids!

  300. Vojkan says:
    @Alfred

    You give them way too much credit. That they dreamt of it doesn’t mean that they did it. Rather, they took Covid as an opportunity sent straight from hell by their master himself and acted on it. Hence the initial cacophony and today’s unison, as it took them some time to synchronise.

    As I’ve written in the comment thread on Jim Fetzer’s article on conspiracy theories, the chances of success of a conspiracy are increased by the cohesion among the conspirators and reduced by their number and diversity. Here we have very different people pursuing very different agendas who have simply found themselves on common ground.

    Politicians reacted how they reacted because they didn’t have any instructions on how to behave in the beginning, the people who own them didn’t give them any initially because it took them time to process what was happening.

    Regarding Pfizer and co, remember that memo by a woman from Goldman Sachs saying that Big Pharma’s interest wasn’t to cure people but to sell them treatments. How do you think experimenting on masses a “vaccine” that makes the body produce both the poison and the antidote fits in that strategy? They didn’t plan the pandemics, they seized the opportunity it offered. Big Pharma doesn’t want people to die, it wants them to be permanently ill.

    As for Bill and Melinda, Mrs. Gates stood by Mr. Gates when he wanted to force-feed Africans with Monsanto GMOs, she stood by him when his vaccination campaign in India left thousands of kids crippled, she stood by him when his vaccination campaign in Kenya made thousands of girls and women sterile. CNN is the fake news factory par excellence indeed but I very much doubt a coronavirus caused Bill’s wife to suddenly grow a conscience and feel disgust for his depopulation idée fixe.

    If the Covid crisis had indeed been planned, the people believed to be the culprits would have better concealed their enthusiasm at its onset. No, they didn’t conspire, they were just thrilled by a gift they found too sublime to be true.

  301. @Vojkan

    The reason I mentioned removing looney and theory is because in the USA both words are used constantly by the media, pundits, politicians, etc. to intentionally distract the weak-minded from believing that there are actually such things as conspiracies. They try to imply that all 3 words are ONE WORD and they are succeeding. Numerous times, I have had to alert people who use that 3-word phrase in my presence that “conspiracy is a real word with real meaning and they most certainly exist and always have”. At least half the time I get a confused look. Yeah, it’s that bad.

    There are sooooo many aspects about the Covid situation and the relatively uniform reactions and policies around it, with global Govts mostly on-board and operating in coordination — the pattern becomes obvious. Btw, there are two African heads-of-state (not old) who publicly resisted the pressure to conform to Covid policies and they are now dead. Many other countries buckled because the World Economic Forum or World Bank put the financial screws to them or incentivized them mightily with big loans at tiny rates. In other words, they were coerced. It’s not as hard to execute something like this as you may think if the elites are willing to use mafia tactics and they are willing.

    In the USA, the policy contrasts are shockingly stark between states with Democrat Governors versus Republican Governors. You can’t believe how obvious it is that Dem Governors are taking orders from elsewhere, outside their states! They are intentionally destroying small businesses and screwing up young children by keeping them out of in-person learning or making them wear masks 7 hours a day if they are in school! It’s sick and intentional. They are psychologically breaking them down with more planned, I have no doubt. These are not coincidences.

    and bioweapons unlike chemical weapons usually have antidotes before they’re unleashed.

    They did have have the “antidote” ahead of time. The fake vaccines weren’t developed in mere months; they’ve had them waiting. What’s the viewpoint of the Serbians regarding the vaccines?

    • Replies: @Vojkan
  302. @Alfred

    You are utterly spot-on, Alfred.

    A virus bioweapon, the Great Reset, digital currencies, engineered mass migration, racial strife turned up to 10 and so much more. All of those have been very long in the planning.

    The Western World, anyway, is becoming more hideous by the day. And yes, in the USA MANY politicians, state AGs, county prosecutors, corporate CEOS and non-profit leaders are corrupted or blackmailed, therefore, captive.

    There is something very odd about the Gates divorce. I think there’s a good chance that it is just an ASSET-related endeavor. By them divorcing and her getting some number of billions, if he is eventually indicted for something and suffers asset confiscation or a huge fine – her billions will be exempt.

    She’d never rat him out….for a few reasons mostly because I’m sure she likes oxygen. Not that he would hurt her but, globalists who would have something big to lose by any confessions could easily see that she dies in an “accident” before she could.

  303. Levtraro says:
    @gatobart

    In your comment 278 you didn’t distinguish between ideological and political Marxism, you just said we are all Marxists, Marxism is alive, Wall Street practices Marxism, etc.

    Ok, so now you say that ideological Marxism is alive and kicking while political Marxism had come short of accomplishments after over a century of trying.

    Regarding ideological Marxism, first, it is certainly not scientific (as in a scientific discipline) but it could be interpreted as a scientific hypothesis about the evolution of human societies. There is some merit in the analysis of history by Marx. I guess I could admit that he saw a significant part of the social dynamics by highlighting the importance of the appropriation of the surplus from productive activities. He saw something that was happening and he argued that that something was determinant: the appropriation of the surplus. Wall Street actually seeks to appropriate all the surpluses it can lands her hands on. Does that make Wall Street Marxist? Answering yes is a logical error. The fact that Marx highlighted the importance of surplus appropriation does not make Marxists of those that during all of history have been appropriating the surpluses.

    From that time, the times of Marx and the Young Hegelians, of all the freien meeting at Hippel’s wineshop in Berlin, the one that saw deeper, much deeper than Marx and Engels, the one that had a vision se profound that it contained Marx’s vision as a particular case and as partial understanding, as well as those of the liberals and social democrats, was Johan Kaspar Schmidt, whose penname was Max Stirner. After reading Stirner’s book, Marx reacted strongly and adapted his theories but Marx also was shocked by noting that Stirner’s view was much deeper than his own so in The German Ideology he and Engels often resorts to cheap shots, ad hominem and plain insults instead of reasoned arguments.

    Regarding political Marxism, the success of the CCP, raising hundred of millions from poverty in China, and the industrilization of the Soviet Union and her success in several highly technical areas, means that Marxists can really achieve great things when they are not fanatical orcs.

    Yes you are right that class struggle is happening, it is happening all the time, it happens when anybody takes a job and accepts a salary thus giving away the surplus to the owner. What I meant is that class struggle is not currently having much impact on the evolution of societies. There are no class-struggle motivated revolutions, at least no capitalist country seems to be headed in that direction.

    • Replies: @gatobart
  304. RWS says:

    Sadly, there’s much truth in Mr. Yates’s article. This, from an American with Chilean friends and cousins, who’s spent much time in Chile over the past quarter of a century.

  305. Bert says:
    @Malla

    It is an inaccurate anatomical representation. I don’t think I need to detail the missing structures. But the “artist’s” failure to get basic anatomy right mirrors feminist errors in understanding female psychology. Most women are not happy unless they are subtly and kindly dominated by a man, and the feminist beliefs are as flawed as this “sculpture” because they leave out this essential element of female psychology.

    • Agree: Malla
  306. Vojkan says:
    @The Real World

    Do you really believe the vaccines are against covid-19? Most people who died from the disease were over eighty. For 99.99% of younger people, the disease is milder than the flu. You don’t vaccinate people over eighty, unless you want to hasten their deaths. The benefit of vaccinating younger people is zero for them and zero for the elderly as it doesn’t prevent the vaccinated from infecting the non-vaccinated. So, what are the vaccines for?

    The only conspiracy with regards to covid is the conspiracy to stay in power. You overlook one crucial fact: TPTB are shit-scared of the people. They are shit-scared because they have aroused the people and pulled off revolutions on pretexts that seem trivial compared to their deeds since. They are shit-scared that someone might make people realise it and arouse them again, this time against genuine evil. Because they know that what they do is by any standard set by humanity since the dawn of civilisation truly, genuinely evil. So they regard clinging to power as a means of survival. For that, they constantly provide people with reasons to fight each other. If they stop, the people might turn against them.

    Last, with regards to Serbia, a lot of people have taken the Chinese and Russian jabs. The rest are vaccine-skeptics. A few local celebs have been appointed to promote Pfizer’s concoction but very few heeded their advice. The situation is so dire that a doctors’ association has appealed on the government to silence skeptics by banning them from the media and initiating criminal charges against them, while Serbia’s president Vučić has offered ~30€ to every vaccinated citizen over 16, has threatened civil servants with unpaid sick leave if they didn’t show the example and has threatened the rest of us with indefinite lock-up. So far, the majority remain unswayed.

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  307. republic says:
    @gatobart

    It is an insult when used by Mexicans

    • Replies: @gatobart
  308. HbutnotG says:
    @Exile

    Hmmm.

    For decades I was under the impression that “libertarian” simply meant pro-small government, there strictly to design a catchy flag, and protect the citizens and its boundaries, and little else.

    Looks like yet another term that has undergone re-definition.

    Looks too, like people have regressed. Nosey, “your business is my business” baloney. That may well be the reason for the re-definition of libertarian.

    • Replies: @789
  309. HbutnotG says:
    @JohnPlywood

    Religion is a cult – be it that first holy communion or Jonestown. No difference except the aesthetics. All religions are there so that folks can blame their mistakes misgivings, or misfortunes on anything or anyone, except themselves. It’s a gene sequence. And given the mortality that religions have incurred over millenia, I presume Darwinism will eventually end the cultism just on Darwinian principles. If it never does – than, dammit, I WILL believe there is a Gawd! Ever notice that Baptist Tennessee outlawed teaching Darwinism in public schools?

    On another level, given the massive evolution of humans on all other counts, adherence to religion is like wearing bell bottom jeans or poodle skirts in 2020.

  310. HbutnotG says:
    @Mefobills

    Hmmm.

    For decades I was under the impression that “libertarian” simply meant pro-small government, there strictly to design a catchy flag, and protect the citizens and its boundaries, and little else.

    Looks like yet another term that has undergone re-definition.

    Looks too, like people have regressed. Nosey, “your business is my business” baloney. That may well be the reason for the re-definition of libertarian.

  311. Malla says:
    @gatobart

    After haring crossed paths with many of them in Montreal, Canada,where they form a sizable community, I have come to the conclusion that they see their abandonment by the British in 1948 as one of the greatest tragedies in their History and that they are still longing for the return of the Raj

    You are obviously lying or deluded. Most Indians do not miss the British Raj. Stop blabbering bullshit.

    Mahatma Gandhi was a fake, just as Nelson Mandela. He never meant true Independence for India,

    Gandhi or no Gandhi, there were forces in Britain itself who themselves dissolve the British Raj. Read the Montague Clemsford report.

    Just look at how envious they are they of the Chinese, who have become after all a truly independent nation and the world superpower they will never be,

    India is as independent as China is. India looks at China as an imperialist country. making an alliance with the West (which is falling apart lately) does not make you less independent.
    Many people in Africa believe China is colonizing Africa

    Why Zambia Is Officially A Chinese Colony?

  312. Malla says:
    @gatobart

    Bullshit, your fat pig hero Marx did not work a day in his life as a worker or as an entrepreneur. The guy shamelessly lived asking money from his family, treated his mentally challenged servant as a slave and maybe impregnated her, looked down upon English working class people and was a relative of the Rothchilds.

    Secondly the USA has secretly supported nearly all Communist movements in the World behind the scenes. Including bringing Castro to power. Bretton Woods, IMF, World Bank had the hands of Communist Soviet supporting Jews like Harry Dexter White. He was a Commie Lithuanian Jew and a Soviet Spy in the US Govt and was pivotal in pitting the Japanese Empire in a war with the USA (to save the USSR’s East). He was also pivotal in the Bretton Woods Conference and later IMF and World Bank. Yes a pro-Soviet spy,

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2013/03/14/how-a-soviet-spy-outmaneuvered-john-maynard-keynes-and-ensured-u-s-global-financial-dominance/
    How a Soviet spy outmaneuvered John Maynard Keynes to ensure U.S. financial dominance
    https://www.vox.com/2014/8/24/6057119/harry-dexter-white-ben-steil
    This Soviet spy created the US-led global economic system

    All this “Revolutionary Communist heroes” Vs evul Western Imperialists is nothing but bullshit. Both sides have been working behind the scenes from the very beginning.

    • Replies: @Malla
  313. gatobart says:
    @Levtraro

    I didn’t distinguish between political and ideological Marxism because I was just giving a general overview on the subject, meant above all for those who may know little or nothing about it and who would have been confused by its subtleties. I know by experience than when you introduce new people to any subject you have to provide just the basics so my way to put it I think was the most appropriate: Scientific Marxism is the best theoretical tool to explain us how we have come to this point in Human History, why society is the way it is and works the way it works. That is the Marxism which is alive and well. Most of us, if not all, are Marxists in that regard, scientific Marxists, Political Marxism is the practical tool, or the way of doing things, of those who want to change society for what they think will be the better, the common good, through their active participation in public life, in political activism, in elections, even in social revolutions. Ideological Marxism would be the bridge between both and, given Human nature, it is no surprising that, as the result of this, from SM to PM, Marxism usually branches out in many different tendencies as we witnessed during the revolutions of the post war period: Castrism, Guevarism, Maoism, Stalinism, Trostkysm and so on.

    So you are right when you say that Ideological Marxism in not scientific. How could it be, if it is the way different people interpret, not so much SM, but how they should act, what they should do, to apply it in their own particular neck of the woods, in their own society, among their own people with their own identity and their own culture? No one argues that Cuba, Venezuela or Nicaragua are very different countries from, say, North Korea or China, so their own Socialist (or Communist, for those who love the word) systems have to be different. That is why Marxist ideology can’t be scientific, because it is the theoretical tool used to bridge the gap between SM and PM, i.e. to bring Marxism to the real world and make it work among people. I still remember some militants of the 60s and 70s commenting with amusement that, as the Chinese had been accustomed for millennia to have an Emperor and to blindly obeying to him, all Mao had to do was to proclaim himself their new Emperor, a Red Emperor, to assume and keep tight control of the hundreds of millions of them.

    Also, you use Newton’s Laws of Motion all the time, when you are awake and working or walking the streets and even when you are sleeping in bed (you roll over when your body is pressing an arm too hard, that is gravity at work). Does that make you a Newtonian…? You are using Microsoft, does that make you a Gatesist…? So, when I say that we are all Marxists, that is simply my way to emphasize how wrong are those who babble about Marxism being dead and forgotten, my way to say to them, You are using Marxism right now, when you are pondering if you will be able to pay your bills for this month..! So the point about WS being Marxist or not, is moot, they use like the rest of us, period.

    As for this chap, Johan Kaspar Schmidt, this is the first time I hear of him–even if Mark Stirner rings a very distant bell. In any case, i remember having seen the images of Che Guevara (above all), Fidel Castro, Ho Chi Mihn, Karl Marx, Frederic Engels, Lenin and other revolutionary many, many times in my life, live and in pictures and videos, of all kinds of demonstrations and public acts but I have never seen that of Mark Stirner by any chance. This is not to demean him but simply to point out that it doesn’t matter how right or accurate you may have been if nobody comes to know about you. Marx probably stole ideas from him, but that wouldn’t make of Marx an exception but just another example of the general rule.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
  314. gatobart says:
    @republic

    South Americans in general don’t carry the beef Mexicans have against the gringos. (After all they stole them at gunpoint half of their country) and even less in the countries of the South Cone. For people over there the U.S, could be as far as China or Tibet.

    • Replies: @Malla
  315. Malla says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Here comes Mulga the idiot monkey and his smelly farts.

    The Chinese have bent over backwards to accommodate them

    This is one thing you got correct, I agree. I feel sad for the disspointment the Chinese side has got But remember it is China who made India its enemy in 1950s by acting like an asshole and treating newly independent revolutionary India as its enemy. Karma is a bitch.

    the glorious West actually likes them and treats them as ‘honorary Whites’.

    The Indian elites do not want to be honorary Whites. Stop spewing the same bullshit. Get your head out of your diseased ass. Opposing China does not make one a slave of Whitey. India looks at China like an imperialist country. Secondly India does not trust the USA completely. Indeed Joe Biden, lackey of China is trying to destroy the QUAD for his Chinese masters.

    Hindutva fascism

    Hindutva is Indian Nationalism at its purest, if you do not understand this you understand nothing. The world does not run according to the wishes of China. CHINA IS NOT INDIA’s MASTER. You are not middle Kingdom anymore. Hindutva is at its core an ANTI-WESTERN movement. A super DECOLONISATION movement. BTW I do not support Hindutva. And I support good Indo-China relations. But I am not going to tolerate bullshit.
    The World is not CHina vs the West or Communism vs West. It is much more complicated but that is beyond simpletons like you or gatofart.

    Is Turkey a slave of Whitey?

    Turkey cuts off water supplies to Chinese embassy
    Is Philippines a slave of Whitey?

    Philippine Foreign Secretary Teddy Locsin’s recent tweet
    Is Vietnam slave of Whitey?

    Vietnam stands up to China

    • Replies: @anon
  316. HbutnotG says:
    @stevennonemaker88

    Just go to the 1930 US Census (and Detroit is a good place) to illustrate how WASP’s (God-fearing, church-attending as they were), had a dislike of Hunkies (that’s “Hunkies” – not “Honkies”). The police and fire crews were well paid – almost as much as engineers – and all had WASP names; even on the lower east side which housed numerous Hunkies. The teachers in public schools were all WASP too – and very socialist, btw, and nudged Hunky kids out of school by 8th grade any which way they could. It’s important to recall, that Hunkies and WASPs looked alike – but the surnames of WASPs were their free access to high school, and those civil service jobs. Have a concerned mother speaking broken English go to your school to inquire about her kid’s report card? You’d be run out of there in a year, one way or another.

    In the 1920’s, Hunkies were the Mexicans du jour. Same went with Poles and Greeks. Poles poor as they were, sent their kids to parochial school if they could, just to get them into/through high school – an almost impossible feat in the public schools. My parents only alluded to what exactly was going on – but never placed blame.

    • Replies: @gatobart
  317. Malla says:
    @gatobart

    After all they stole them at gunpoint half of their country)

    The United States paid Mexico $15 million for the land which became known as the Mexican Cession.
    Pío Pico (Pío de Jesús Pico IV) , the the last governor of Alta California (Mexican California), vehemently opposed American annexation, he even supported California joining the British Empire rather than ever becoming a part of the United States.
    In 1844 he was chosen as a leader of the California Assembly. In 1845, he was again appointed governor, succeeding the unpopular Manuel Micheltorena. This occurred because, in late 1844, the Mexican province of California staged a revolt against the mother country. Micheltorena had been sent to California from Mexico, along with an army that had been recruited out of Mexico’s worst jails. He had no money to feed his army, which then spread out to people’s homes and farms “like a plague of locusts, stripping the countryside bare.” This enraged the Californians and led to widespread hatred of Micheltorena. Women were not considered safe from the depredations of Micheltorena’s army.

    Juan Bautista Alvarado, the governor who had been forcibly replaced by Micheltorena, organized a rebellion against Micheltorena. Upon learning of the impending revolt, Micheltorena appointed John Sutter to lead troops in opposition. Sutter came to John Marsh, who had one of the largest ranchos in California, hoping he would join. Marsh wanted no part of it, but Sutter forced him to join his army against his will. The two forces met in Cahuenga Pass, near Los Angeles, and fought the Battle of Providencia (also known as the Second Battle of Cahuenga Pass), which consisted primarily of an artillery duel. On the long march to the battle Marsh had taken every opportunity to dissuade the other soldiers from Micheltorena’s cause. Ignoring Sutter, Marsh seized an opportunity in the battle to signal the other side for a parley. Many of the soldiers on each side were immigrants from the United States. Marsh convinced them that they had no reason to be fighting each other. At Marsh’s urging, these soldiers on both sides united, abandoned Micheltorena’s cause, and even captured Sutter. Micheltorena was defeated, and California-born Pio Pico was returned to the governorship. Pico made Los Angeles the province’s capital. In the year leading up to the Mexican–American War, Governor Pico was outspoken in favor of California’s becoming a British Protectorate rather than a U.S. territory. By the time the proposal reached London, though, Sir Robert Peel’s Tory government, with its Little England policy, had come to power and rejected the proposal as expensive and a potential source of conflict. During the late 18th and 19th centuries,this Little England policy was followed by members of the Liberal Party who was opposed to expansion of the British Empire, as well as many traditionalist conservatives who wanted England to extend no farther than the borders of the United Kingdom. The term was also used for English people who saw the British Empire’s colonies as economically burdensome and wanted them to be granted independence as quickly as possible.
    Economically burdensome eh?
    Yeah so much for pirates and empire and looting and commie propaganda.

    • Thanks: Arthur MacBride
  318. Levtraro says:
    @gatobart

    My point about Max Stirner was larger. Not that Marx borrowed some ideas from Stirner. But that Stirner had a larger, more profound vision about the evolution of societies, in which Marx’s vision and his historical materialism become just a partial, incomplete understanding.

    So I thought that if you like Marx’s visions, you gonna love Stirner’s vision. But Stirner’s ideology is a harsh mistress, so beware. Btw, there are no surviving images of Stirner, like those for Che Guevara and the other commies you mention, there is just a drawing made by Engels.

    • Replies: @gatobart
  319. gatobart says:
    @Levtraro

    Well, now that you have stated it so clearly, I will take a look at the man and what he said or wrote. Maybe you are on to something.

  320. gatobart says:
    @HbutnotG

    “In the 1920’s, Hunkies were the Mexicans du jour”

    Who the Heck are the Hunkies…? I googled it and came out with this’

    hunk·y:

    large, strong, and sexually attractive (typically used of a man).

    Uh, that would have been quite a sight to behold. The U.S. being invaded by a crowd of of big, strong, sexually attractive men.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @HbutnotG
  321. Malla says:
    @Malla

    Including bringing Castro to power.

    An interview with Mr. Earl T. Smith, American Ambassador to Cuba in between 1957 and 1959.

    US Government Brought Fidel Castro to Power (Full Documentary)

    A rare detailed account of the Communist takeover of Cuba and America’s role in Fidel Castro’s dictatorship. Former US Ambassador to Cuba, Earl T. Smith is interviewed and reveals the State Department’s involvement in violation of neutrality laws, supporting a known communist with a documented history of violent criminal behavior, and committing high treason by deliberately aiding an enemy of the United States and concealing a clear and imminent threat to our national security. This conspiracy against the citizens of Cuba has cost thousands of lives, devastated families, and has left the dispossessed Cubans stateless and destitute. It is a deliberate case of economic and cultural genocide that merits investigation and restitution. Please watch, share and expose. Smith also details this collusion in his book, “The Fourth Floor”, a curiously hard to find book he wrote in 1962 “as a footnote to history and to the science of government”. He added “I am convinced that my experience as the United States Ambassador to Cuba was unusual in the sense that I lived through the Castro Communist Revolution, and I feel that I owe it to the American people to try to establish the fact that the Castro Communist Revolution need never have occurred. From this experience, i learned not only that our techniques of relations with Cuba were faulty but that the modus operandi for the determination of policy is not only inadequate but dangerous to the defense of our country”

    Batista was their guy too but he was backstabbed just like the backstab done to the Chinese Nationalists in favour of Mao. Even Stalin did not want a 100% Communist mainland China but 50% Communist 50% Capitalist mainland China like Korea or Vietnam (The USSR after the war did not have the resources to support a 100% Communist China just after the War according to the pragmatic Stalin) but the Rockefellars insisted upon him for a 100% Communist China

    Mr Smith openly states that in general the United States has always preferred to support the spread of Left Winged dictators over Right Winged dictators because the lefties are considered more progressive. (a dubious term, progressing towards what? A One World dictatorship, a New World Order?) The U.S. Government have supported right winged dictators in the past too, when the situation suited them but they by default they prefer lefty dictators.

    What is also interesting is that the wider Jewish Castro family had been big time players in the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade of Africans, centuries ago, as per Prof. Tony Martin.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @789
  322. Malla says:
    @Malla

    And as commentator S had posted once here

    “The US state department, or what passed for it in the early days, has often been involved in support of Communist intrigue and revolution, indeed, was involved in the creation of Communism itself at the time of the French Revolution. [And when the situation has warrented, the State Department has been involved in Capitalist revolution and intrigue as well, such as in South and Central America.]

    No less than Ben Franklin and Thomas Jefferson, as US ministers to France during the 1780’s, were quite involved in the overthrow of France’s old order and the creation of the 1789 French Revolution. This was the revolution which introduced to the world the ‘Commune’, the ‘political commissar’, ‘counter revolution’, ‘Whites’, and, the ‘Great Terror’, all of which Soviet Communism would evolve from. The revolutionary capital today, Paris, not surprisingly, has a city square named ‘Stalingrad’.

    Below is excerpted from an article from an (apparently) Masonic associated website.

    As soon as America gained her independence from Great Britain (with substantial French assistance), first Franklin and then Jefferson went on missions to France where they served as nuclei around which formed a latticework of interrelated or interconnected French revolutionary leaders, one of whom was Marie Joseph Paul Ives Gilbert du Motier, Marquis de Lafayette, who, after fighting in the American Revolution, imported revolutionary ideology into his native France under Jefferson’s guidance and inspiration.

    Products of the European Enlightenment, Franklin and Jefferson were station masters of France’s American depot, as Lafayette was an agent of the French central station trained on the American revolutionary training ground. Seeding the revolutionary cloud was not a one-sided French venture, however. On the contrary: the seedtime of the French Revolution was during Benjamin Franklin’s ministry to France–and that American was the seed-planter.

    https://www.belcherfoundation.org/trilateral_center.htm”

    This is extremely sad as without French (Monarchy) help the Americans would have found it extremely hard to defeat the British.

  323. Malla says:
    @gatobart

    The U.S. being invaded by a crowd of of big, strong, sexually attractive men.

    You know what would also be a sight to behold. Millions of macho mustachioed Asian Indian men invading Latin America (where the women are slutty anyways) looking for “bobs and vagenes”. LMFAO. 1.4 billion people of us, 700 million men to spare. It is a competitive sausagefest out here.

  324. @Fr. John

    You sound like a crypto-academic or a music teacher pretending to be an orthodox priest. ;). Anathemaizing people on the internets like a big ol tough guy? That’s rich.

  325. Malla says:
    @gatobart

    Hindus fighting for the Empire never got from the British the respect and recognition they probably deserved, and even less the general population, they were always treated with utter contempt.

    ghettofart, do some research before you fart.
    The India Gate (formerly known as the All India War Memorial) is a war memorial located astride the Rajpath (Kingsway), on the eastern edge of the “ceremonial axis” of New Delhi. It stands as a memorial to 70,000 soldiers of the British Indian Army who died in between 1914 and 1921 in the First World War, in France, Flanders, Mesopotamia, Persia, East Africa, Gallipoli and elsewhere in the Near and the Far East, and the third Anglo-Afghan War. 13,300 servicemen’s names, both of British and Indian origins, common soldiers and officers, are inscribed on the gate. Designed by Sir Edwin Lutyens, the gate evokes the architectural style of the triumphal arch such as the Arch of Constantine, in Rome, and is often compared to the Arc de Triomphe in Paris, and the Gateway of India in Mumbai.

    The India Gate was part of the work of the Imperial War Graves Commission (IWGC), which came into existence in December 1917 during the British Raj for building war graves and memorials to soldiers of the Royal Indian Army who were killed in the First World War. The foundation stone of the gate, then called the All India War Memorial, was laid on 10 February 1921, at 16:30, by the visiting Duke of Connaught in a ceremony attended by Officers and Men of the British Indian Army, Imperial Service Troops, the Commander in Chief, and Chelmsford, the viceroy. On the occasion, the viceroy is reported to have said, “The stirring tales of individual heroism, will live forever in the annals of this country”, and that the memorial which was a tribute to the memory of heroes, “known and unknown”, would inspire future generations to endure hardships with similar fortitude and “no less valour”. The Duke also read out a message by the King, which said, “On this spot, in the central vista of the Capital of India, there will stand a Memorial Archway, designed to keep”, in the thoughts of future generations, “the glorious sacrifice of the officers and men of the British Indian Army who fought and fell”. During the ceremony, the Deccan Horse, 3rd Sappers and Miners, 6th Jat Light Infantry, 34th Sikh Pioneers, 39th Garhwal Rifles, 59th Scinde Rifles (Frontier Force), 117th Mahrattas, and 5th Gurkha Rifles (Frontier Force), were honoured with the title of “Royal” in recognition of the distinguished services and gallantry of the British Indian Army during the Great War”.

    Ten years after the foundation stone laying ceremony, on 12 February 1931, the memorial was inaugurated by Lord Irwin, who on the occasion said “those who after us shall look upon this monument may learn in pondering its purpose something of that sacrifice and service which the names upon its walls record.”

    The memorial in New Delhi, like the Cenotaph in London, is a secular memorial, free of religious and “culturally-specific iconography such as crosses”. Lutyens according to his biographer, Christopher Hussey, relied on “elemental mode”, a style of commemoration based on “universal architectural style free of religious ornamentation”.

    Inscriptions
    The cornice of the India Gate is inscribed with the Imperial suns while both sides of the arch have INDIA, flanked by the dates MCMXIV (‘1914’; on the left) and MCMXIX (‘1919’; on the right). Below the word INDIA, in capital letters, is inscribed:

    TO THE DEAD OF THE INDIAN ARMIES WHO FELL AND ARE HONOURED IN FRANCE AND FLANDERS MESOPOTAMIA AND PERSIA EAST AFRICA GALLIPOLI AND ELSEWHERE IN THE NEAR AND THE FAR-EAST AND IN SACRED MEMORY ALSO OF THOSE WHOSE NAMES ARE HERE RECORDED AND WHO FELL IN INDIA OR THE NORTH-WEST FRONTIER AND DURING THE THIRD AFGHAN WAR

    In 2017, the India Gate was twinned with the Arch of Remembrance in Leicester, England, another Lutyens war memorial, following a very similar design but on a smaller scale. In a ceremony, India’s high commissioner to the United Kingdom laid a wreath at the arch in Leicester and the British high commissioner to India laid one at the India Gate.

    The gate, which is illuminated every evening from 19:00 to 21:30, today serves as one of Delhi’s most important tourist attractions.

  326. gatobart says:

    Don’t waste your time. I said I won’t answer any more of your krap, I’m not even reading it anymore and I think everyone else in this blog should do the same, at least those who demand to be treated with respect by others and who are not used to being called “idiotic diseased monkeys” but some entity who certainly seems to be exactly that.

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  327. anon[389] • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    Turkey cuts off water supplies to Chinese embassy

    Fake news. A utility company worked nearby the Chinese embassy and wasn’t even close to the building. Somehow some media made up and reported such a bizarre story.

    Philippine Foreign Secretary Teddy Locsin’s recent tweet

    Teddy Locsin already apologized.

    Vietnam stands up to China

    Both Vietnam and the Philippines have their conflict with China over the disputed waters. But that is not something new. The disagreement goes way back to when Vietnam was colonized by France and the Philippines by Spain. The recent spat is very much under control. In reality, Vietnam and the Philippines have a much better relationship with China than you think. Vietnam has been sending its party (CPV)members and bureaucrats to study with the CPC, and the commercial ties between the two countries have been increasing every year. The Philippines have been getting a lot of investments and aids from China.

    “Vietnam has made positive comments on its ties with China during Chinese State Councilor and Minister of National Defense Wei Fenghe’s visit to the country, stressing that Vietnam will never follow other countries to oppose China. ”

    https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202104/1222213.shtml

    “China and Vietnam have agreed to work together to improve trust amid simmering tensions between the two neighbours over their territorial claims in the South China Sea.”

    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3131002/china-vietnam-agree-boost-trust-amid-south-china-sea-tensions

    “China emerges as PH’s most important source of investments”

    Read more: https://business.inquirer.net/313538/china-emerges-as-phs-most-important-source-of-investments#ixzz6uN72qFJS

    https://business.inquirer.net/313538/china-emerges-as-phs-most-important-source-of-investments#:~:text=Citing%20Philippine%20government%20data%2C%20UOB,special%20administrative%20region%20of%20China.

    India is different. Maybe being a member of the QUAD will work out for India.

    • Replies: @Malla
  328. eah says:

    Never before had I observed, from the inside, a neoliberal political economy first lose credibility as its scams were found out and challenged …

    Of course the US has more or less the same ‘scams’, but as (still) the world’s preeminent hegemonic power the US can create as much of its currency as it wants in order to postpone a similar loss of ‘credibility’ — I mean, the trillions for COVID stimulus weren’t found under grandma’s mattress — in this sense, perhaps the rubes in the US are dumber than their counterparts in Chile, failing to recognize the ‘scam’ and their status as chattel even when these trillions are added to the national debt for them, their children, grandchildren, etc to pay interest on, basically forever.

  329. Boss Hogg says:
    @Skeptikal

    Unlimitedhangout.com
    Her website and blog. You can follow her there, now.

  330. Boss Hogg says:
    @Alden

    The american slave trade was run by the jews from england. Only two per cent of americans owned slaves, 40% of those were jews. Same jews who ran the coolie slave trade in shanghai. The american slave narkets were all jewish owned. Obviosly the jews who write and publish our history books and run our schools try to suppress this but you can verify this yourself with a little digging. The jews brought their slave trade and capital to the usa but the non elite whites lived a subsistence life until cspitalism created the middle class.

  331. Malla says:
    @gatobart

    I said I won’t answer any more of your

    You can’t. You do not have answers.

    seems to be exactly that.

    Wrong as usual.

  332. Malla says:
    @anon

    Both Vietnam and the Philippines have their conflict with China

    Exactly my point. Just because they have conflicts with China does not make them servants of YT.

    As far as QUAD, India joined the QUAD only because of China. Simple as that. But now the QUAD seems to be falling apart thanks to Joe Biden backstabbing India.

    India is different.

    Indians believe that China has continuously backstabed their nation and acts like an imperial bully and recently attacked Indian soldiers at Galwan (not my personal view). Due to nationalism and national pride, they post like this.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Mulga Mumblebrain
  333. anon[734] • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    thanks to Joe Biden backstabbing India.

    How did Joe Biden backstab India? Why do you think the QUAD is falling apart?

    I think Modi is perfectly capable of looking out for India’s interest in the geopolitical games.

    • Replies: @Malla
  334. Jett Rucker says: • Website

    F. A. Hayek (credibly) denied being Jewish. I’d be interested in your source, Steven Yates.

  335. Anon[713] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Ha! Yeah, right, another crazy scheme by that “market moron” Bob Hawke and his greedy, vampiric “capitalist” henchman Paul Keating. Funny how ordinary battler aren’t complaining about superannuation, just screeching, maladjusted, malcontents, such as yourself.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  336. gsjackson says:
    @Vojkan

    I’m an American who 23 days ago returned to Belgrade after three months in much more relaxed Albania. I was shocked to find Serbia had gone back to making people eat and drink outside. But now that absurdity has been removed for the time being, and I’m noticing more and more people on city buses not wearing their diapers. Could it be the worm is turning?

    I want to yell at Serbs: ‘Stop taking the PCR test.’ That’s the government’s pretext for all the chicken shit, and if they don’t have “cases” they can’t justify it. But I suppose they would just make up the numbers if they had to.

    It’s good to hear your assessment. I’ve been a little disappointed in how much the Serbs have been willing to put up with so far, but to their great credit they don’t self police. No stink eyes or lectures about improper mask usage from anybody. It’s a very different population in the U.S.

    • Replies: @The Real World
    , @Vojkan
  337. HbutnotG says:
    @gatobart

    The term “honkie” is an ebonic term originally coined in negro parlance for the term “Hunkie.” A Hunkie was a person of Serbian, Croatian, Slovenian, Macedonian, or Hungarian birth who fled Europe before WW I – having no interest in being run by the (Germanic) Austro-Hungarian Empire which treated these people like serfs. That’s how the Archduke Ferdie got killed. Once here, these immigrants even referred to themselves as “Hunkies.”

    Like most other people in early to mid 20th century America, Hunkies tended to congregate in their own part of the city. Later in the century, coloreds began to mix in with Hunkies and eventually, as the familiar white people to the local coloreds, they acquired the term “Honkie” simply meaning “white person.” This, term btw, began on the lower east side of Detroit. I am unaware of any other place in the country where Hunkies and coloreds mixed.

    • Replies: @gatobart
  338. Anon[713] • Disclaimer says:
    @Commentator Mike

    “Many of these Third Worlders function reasonably well in First World societies when they move there. ”

    What? Where exactly do you think these Third Worlders are functioning well in the First World?

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  339. Anon[713] • Disclaimer says:
    @gatobart

    Your English is not the problem. Your inability to think critically in the face of your typical Third World jealousy is the problem, Indito. (Ha! Yes, I know, you Chileans are convinced you’re White. Widespread DNA sampling in the last couple of decades has disproved that old canard. Sorry Stoddard, but you were way off.) Who knew there was a Chilean version of “we wuz kings and shit?” Hilarious!

    • Replies: @gatobart
  340. @Anon

    The ‘ordinary battlers’ are going out backwards. No pay increases for at least seven years, none in sight, jobs precarious, low paid and contingent, under-employment at record levels, housing unaffordable, inflation surging, the environment collapsing and the most Rightwing regime ever, led by a Pentecostalist thug (pardon the tautology)who WANTS climate disaster to occur so that we can all be consumed in ‘The Fire’, about to destroy the Disability Insurance scheme and superannuation-but the dumb-fucks, in their greed and stupidity keep voting for it, so fuck ’em all, I say. Oh, and ditto for you, with knobs on.

  341. @Malla

    Indian Hindutva rags were full of boastful Hindutva thugs bragging of setting China up on the border. Such little displays of Indian martial valour are about all the failing state has going for it-to impress the White Bosses. Meanwhile the Chinese are rushing equipment to India, particularly oxygen compressors, to aid the failing state battle a pandemic that Modi and his henchmen mishandled categorically.

    • Replies: @Malla
  342. @Anon

    I was implying Indian and other professionals. Sure many may be lowering standards but still I thought “reasonably well” was an adequate description. Well, OK, I wouldn’t trust many of them and prefer not to have to deal with them, but they’re not quite shitting in the streets and turning US into India. If anything it is many whites who are now shitting in the streets and turning city centres into streets India.

  343. @gsjackson

    It’s a very different population in the U.S.

    Hold on there, gs. Since you’re American, you know that this is a VAST country with very different topographies, populations, cultures, politics, etc.

    Where I live, in the Midwest, I have not experienced nor heard from anybody of anyone calling them out for not wearing masks. And we’re 14 months into the diaper-wearing dictates. Most still ARE wearing them in stores but I’m seeing more who aren’t, incl me, and no one says a thing.

    It’s mostly the big, urban Libtard areas where that happens.

    • Agree: gsjackson
  344. Malla says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    There are no White bosses. Get your head out of your ass. Indians look at China (rightly or wrongly) as an imperialist country, And so do Filipinos and even many Russians for example. This White boss is nothing but Chinese Wumao trying to deflect the bad reputation China has among some of its neighbours and even people afar. There are Africans complaining about Chinese “neo- colonialism”. This has nothing to do with Whitey.

    Meanwhile the Chinese are rushing equipment to India

    So is Pakistan. So what? India and Pakistan are enemies.

  345. gatobart says:
    @HbutnotG

    Thank you very much for taking the time to explain all that. I didn’t know that Eastern Europeans arriving in the U.S. in early XX century had deserved also their own appelative, just like practically all other ethnic groups and races.

  346. gatobart says:
    @Anon

    Sorry,…are you high on something…? If so, please try to write something to me when you can actually make sense.

    For those who are able to think clearly at this moment, this poor clueless guy is making absolutely no sense. I spend months every year in Chile, and I have stayed also in some other South American countries, and the last thing Argentinians, Peruvians, Bolivians, Colombians and the rest would say about Chileans is that they feel any “Third World jealousy”. Quite the contrary. They even ridicule Chileans because they consider that Chileans think of themselves as being already part of the First World, the developed world and that for that reason they look down upon them with contempt and arrogance…! And that is true to some extent, at least until 2019, all the hype in the world media about Chilean development and progress during the last decades had gone to some extent to the people’s head over there and so they have no time now for jealousy of for feeling inferior. Chileans will gladly tell you how advanced and developed their country has become at the least excuse and even right now they won’t miss telling you that the country is the second or third in the world in the percentage of the population who has been already vaccinated. If this guys was ever in Chile that had to be during the XX Century as Chileans have practically forgotten all about their former race complex and about any inferiority complex. They leave that for their neighbors.

    There is also a lot of jealousy in Latin America, let alone South America, about Chile as Chile has traditionally attracted far more attention in the world than any of them when crucial tragic or simply important events take place. Everyone may remember the rescue of the 33 miners in Northern Chile in 2010, which attracted a world TV audience over a billion and many TV chains keep broadcasting live for an entire day the operation. Here in Canada the CBC did it. As comparison, mining disasters in LatAm are practically ignored by the world media. Pinochet is also a name everyone knows, it has even used by many all over by regular people (“Our new boss is a real Pinochet” “So do you want to install Pinochetism in this household…?”, etc. Also Allende. Yet nobody knows who Rafael Videla was, an Argentinian military golpista who killed 10 times people more than Pinochet. When Allende was toppled during the First 911 the event caused shock waves all over the world, specially in Europe while military coups of that era in LatAm didn’t deserve more than a short article in the papers. My suspicion is that this guy is just another Latino jealous of Chileans, they all sound just like that.

  347. Vojkan says:
    @gsjackson

    Well, they make up numbers all the time and president Vučić is a pathological liar. I don’t trust their data on anything, let alone with regards to the covid scamdemics. They recently came out with statistics of excess deaths since the start of the crisis and the number was greater than the number of those who officially died of covid. I sometimes have the impression that we exist in parallel realities.

    The Serbian government could never impose the level of restrictions and measures as absurd as in France for instance for two reasons. The first is that the former Yugoslavia was a communist country and people in former communist countries look at what the government or the media say with a greater distance than people in the West. The second reason is the importance of the grey economy. It is harder for a state to coerce people to whom it provides very, very little.

    Anyway, I just don’t get how people in France have accepted something as absurd as wearing masks outdoors. That’s something you’ll see where I am only if the person has forgotten to take it off. Youngsters in shopping malls often don’t wear them, I’ve been reprimanded only once in the bank for not wearing it over my nose, the mask and eyeglasses are incompatible, and shopkeepers remind people to put them because they fear steep fines, not the coronavirus. Though there are occasional haters who seem to have as sole purpose in life to make other people’s lives miserable.

    For all their faults – and they have more than their share of them -, the Serbs’ attitude during the crisis is the reason why for the first time since I came from France, I am glad to be here rather than there.

    • Thanks: gsjackson
  348. Malla says:
    @anon

    This is an interesting discussion in about the situation India is now in. In between Abhijit Iyer-Mitra (yellow T-shirt) and Abhinav Prakash (guy with glasses or spectacles)

    Vaccine Embargo by Biden Administration – Abhijit Iyer-Mitra on Urban Chatterati

    [MORE]

    Abhijit Iyer-Mitra and Abhinav Prakash from 0:40 minutes to 2:30 minutes discuss about how the Biden administration are deliberately sabotaging vaccine manufacturing in India. For the Novavax vaccine not the CoviShield being currently being produced. Thus India gets Sputnik from Russia. They are unintentionally by trying to screw India, are doing India a favour.
    Abhinav Prakash: Biden administration seems worse than Trump…..
    Abhijit Iyer-Mitra (2:49 minutes:) Trump did not behave very badly. If we (India) needed help, the help was usually sent.With Biden, with all his talk about globalism you know, we are all going to hold hands and sing Kumbaya. It is a good lesson for Indians who voted Democrat in America, secretly I am hoping that something happens to their family members as well in this particular wave. It says a lot about the complete cluelessness of most of the foreign policy commenteriat and the so called self proclaimed “responsible informed” commenteriat saying that Biden would better for globalism and all that. Which is proven to be absolute RUBBISH. Across the board. Because remember this isn’t the first. The US Navy was conducting freedom of navigation operations for the last 10 years, India never really gave a damn. Why? Because our extended zones are intended specifically for China. They are not intended for harassment or bullying of everyone and anyone. And it is been done specifically because China is doing certain things so it is a kind of reciprocal threat that if you can do that, we can do that with the Malacca Straits and things like that. So, why did the US navy feel the need to announce it publicly after 10 years? It makes no sense. You are conducting freedom of navigation operations, you are not being challenged, why did you go and have to announce it often all of a sudden. And notice whichever countries that they named, South Korea, Maldives and India. You remember, I was telling you that this man’s (Biden) son is so compromised to China, his (Biden’s) actions will not directly help China, they will indirectly help China. So he has effectively put all American allies in the same plank as China!! “”You are really no different from China anymore.” It is the same thing with vaccines now. Essentially what he is doing is he is saying “you may be an ally but America first”. In which case, what is the point of being an ally? So.. that is perfectly fine. In this last 3 to 4 months, Biden has done damage, actual damage to the American alliance system what Trump was claimed to have done in the last four years. It is a valid statement, it is a statistically supported statement.
    Abhinav Prakash (7:33 minutes): They are not helping anyone, it is not just India, they are not helping countries in their neighbourhood. What does it tell about America and its current administration? Vice pResident seems to be running the show!!
    Abhijit Iyer-Mitra (7:51 minutes): Look, the Vice President maybe be running the show but even she is really a puppet. Biden is basically a walking cadaver, he has one foot in the coffin. we do not know if he is alive or dead and when he is going to die. Now that being the case, you have to understand it is a whole a very very powerful bunch of Democrat party interests running the Government and those Democrat party interests are further controlled by corporate interests…… It is a lot of corporate interests that seem to align at the same time. For example in case of CAATSA sanctions, Boeing and Lockheed Martin would be thinking, look this is one good way of ensuring we get more sales in India and kick the Russians out of the Indian market. It would be Pfizer telling their kept senators and their purchased Congressmen, if you do this they (India) would be forced to buy our vaccines at a certain price…..Never attribute to malice what you can to stupidity. When your president is basically a walking cadaver, Vice President (Kamala Harris) is so compromised to Corporate Interests and his son (Biden) is so compromised to foreign interests, we don’t really know if the US Govt is being controlled. Look at the mess they have at their southern border. POLITICO actually had ban its staff to refer about the Southern border crisis, none of them are sending their reporters or even screaming at the fact that they are are not being allowed to send their reporters. Could you imagine this have happened under Trump?
    Abhinav Prakash: (Laughing) No of course Not.
    Abhijit Iyer-Mitra: So there you go

    Abhinav Prakash (12:00 minutes) This brings to this hypocrisy of the people who pretend to be outraged at the misery of the people, this entire woke culture. What happened to the wokes in America? Why are they not on the streets and saying “Asian lives do matter”. “You help the other countries. what happened to these people in NYT and Washington Post? Why is there no cover story that America is the greatest horder of live saving drugs in the world?
    Abhijit Iyer-Mitra (12:28 minutes): (Smiling) Because it was never about principles. Look, all these so called revolutionary movements are always about some smart manipulator who is able to manipulate a whole bunch of zombies. Tell me one revolution which did not happen on the back of zombie. I do not mean movie style Zombies but using it figuratively. But that is what BLM, anti-fa and all these movements ARE. They are essentially low IQ stupid people, foot soldiers who are cynically manipulated….Leadership is screwing people and make them enjoy the process of getting screwed over.

    • Replies: @Malla
  349. Malla says:
    @Malla

    From the same video
    Abhinav Prakash (16:18 minutes): Coming back to Biden and his America, public sentiment in India has turned against America. It is not just about this vaccine thing but other things Biden has been doing. What do you think is going to be future of diplomacy in between the two countries and what will happen to QUAD?

    [MORE]

    Abhijit Iyer-Mitra (16:40 minutes):The diplomacy was already strained when Biden took over. It was not strained it was a bit uncomfortable and now it is only going to get only more uncomfortable. They are going to try to smoothen it out, they are try to normalize it but it isn’t going to work. ….My entire argument for an alliance with America was based on the common threat from China, the need for technology (B) and a need of market (C). It was never been based on this cocaine induced dream of shared values. We do not share values, let us be very clear about this.
    Abhinav Prakash (17:52 minutes): Yes we do not.
    Abhijit Iyer-Mitra (17:52 minutes): Indian definition of democracy (Westminster system) is very different from American democracy. India’s definition of freedom of speech is very different from the American definition of freedom of speech. In fact I would say America now is coming to the Indian definition of freedom of speech, not the other way around. The only shared value is I think, is that neither country achieved a monopoly of violence. In America because of the gun laws and in India because we do not have the police (undermanned police)…..Let us be clear, India and America have no shared values.…..(19:05 minutes) Now, even if you assume that the Nehru, Gandhi, Rajiv Gandhi period was this glorious era of free speech and things like that, if it was based on shared values, why were India America relations at absolute rock bottom at that time? Was India was a great paragon of democracy in 1971 when the USA sent its fleet against us? No it was purely because of the USSR and India’s friendship with the USSR. And lets be clear. The only common agenda that India and America have is China.
    Abhinav Prakash (19:47 minutes): Agreed
    Abhijit Iyer-Mitra (19:50 minutes): That is it. We don’t agree on the Middle East, we don’t agree on Iran, we don’t agree on Russia ,we don’t agree on the EU , we don’t agree on freedom of the seas.
    Abhinav Prakash (20:00 minutes): We don’t agree even on Bangladesh and Myanmar.
    Abhijit Iyer-Mitra: Absolutely, so what the hell do we agree on. What is the shared values? What is the shared vision? I really do no tget what this shared vision is.
    Abhinav Prakash (20:15 minutes): As I said, India and America do not have any shared values. Some of our values might be similar, like our commitment to a constitutional democracy. but that is it. We are a completely different people. We are a completely different society. We belong to completely different civilizations. We have nothing in common.
    Abhijit Iyer-Mitra (20:32 minutes): We belong to different stages of development. Even our assumptions of the fundamental priniciples of what is democracy, what is secularism, what is individual liberty, are compeltely different.
    Abhinav Prakash (20:50 minutes): Are completely different, I agree to that. What will happen to this hyped Indo-American alliance and QUAD and all. it seems that the trust that was built over the last decade or so has now evaporated and we Indians are reminded how America has been a hostile country to India.
    Abhijit Iyer-Mitra (21:07 minutes): Absolutely. I don’t think these people realize how much cumulative damage they have done. Individually yes. Individually these statements about freedom of navigation, individually their statements about Novavax raw materials and the CAATSA sanctions would be the cherry on the cake ……Cumulatively the damage they have done is extremely severe.
    Abhinav Prakash (2:41 minutes) : What will happen to this anti-China alliance now? America, Europe, Japan etc… are doing business with China, setting up factorries, investing money. They wanted India to be their frontline soldier against China, why should India be or care for the QUAD anymore.
    Abhijit Iyer-Mitra (22: 14 minutes): Why I will continue to support an Indo-America alliance…It is not that America is very good….because CHINA IS A LOT WORSE...Absolutely reprehensible creature..so every other creature by comparison …including a preying mantis would look better then they ever could….
    Abhinav Prakash: America certainly is not trustworthy completely unreliably and completely corrupt as well.

    …….

    Abhijit Iyer-Mitra (24:42 minutes): America is a fantastic ally if you can can manage to corrupt them. …had we gone in and purchased a lot of things. Had we developed industrially the way China has and bought over most of these senators and congressmen because we all know they are for sale, they go to the highest bidder.…had we done that we could have been assured of their reliability. (25:18 minutes) For example China is very happy with Biden being an extremely reliable friend. Pretends to be an enemy but is actually a friend kind of thing. So lets not see America is not reliable. The question is if you don’t have leverage do not expect reliability. Reliability comes on interdependence and leverage……(25:53 minutes) With France and Russia, they have always been and Israel, they have always been extremely trustworthy as a rule. And it seems to be ideological than it is actually practical. Because with Russia, it is a single product trade which we have with them that is defense. With France its always been much more of a sort of mental connect with France where France sees us as this..kindred brother who is just as irritating, a pain in the ass for America just as France is within NATO, because France always had this independent streak about NATO ….Self Reliance almost…. What you are seeing is that the three countries with whom we have had a great ideological affinity, historically, that have proven to be much more helpful and reliable than America. America needs to be purchased. It is a market, it is not a country, it is a market. It is a meat market.
    ….
    Abhinav Prakash (29:13 minutes: But the American behaviour will be remembered in India for long…it is a good thing that our generation has learnt that America cannot be reliable.
    Abhijit Iyer-Mitra: Yeah

  350. gsjackson says:
    @Vojkan

    Sounds like Nis is evolving a little. I was there mid-November to mid-December, and there were quite a few people wearing the diapers outside.

    Belgrade has created the position of nose guards now for the malls. Can you imagine doing that for a living — telling adults to pull up their face diapers so as to fully impair their breathing, instead of just partially? It’s all so surreal.

    • Thanks: gsjackson
  351. Vojkan says:

    There are always ‘petits bourgeois’ who fulminate against ‘misbehaviour’ and love to mimic Western civility but this has to be the first tim

    • Replies: @Vojkan
  352. Vojkan says:

    There are everywhere ‘petits bourgeois’ zealots who fulminate against their fellow citizens’ uncivil manners, and I admit that Serbs’ predisposition to unbecoming conduct can indeed be annoying, but this crisis has reversed the roles. People have had the time to gather back their senses since last fall and are increasingly aware that this is a big scam. The question is whether they will sink into apathy and fold to the government’s injunctions or increasingly resist them by ignoring them. We’ll soon see.

    As for ‘nose guards’, you can always count on an idiocracy to invent asinine occupations.

  353. gsjackson says:
    @Vojkan

    Another poster has said here that the Serb government is dancing to tunes called by the EU, in hopes of joining. Do you agree with that?

    • Replies: @Vojkan
  354. Vojkan says:
    @Vojkan

    Funny how this unfinished comment never appeared to be edited and yet ended in the comments section eventually.

  355. Vojkan says:
    @gsjackson

    If that’s that what the people in the Serb government hope for then even my most pessimistic estimation of their intelligence is an overvaluation.

    Sure, all politicians in Eastern Europe dream of landing their offspring in overpaid positions in Brussels or Strasbourg to do fictional work because the only work within their field of competence is of the fictional kind. So they probably dream but I doubt they really hope.

    No, both they and the EU just pretend. Serb politicians pretend Serbia wants to join to finagle money from the EU to line their pockets, and EU politicians pretend relevancy to justify their existence.

    Both know that it is more likely that the EU will cease to exist than that Serbia will become a member.

  356. anon[246] • Disclaimer says:
    @stevennonemaker88

    Literally no notable geneticist who reliably studies ancient samples accepts the Khazar Theory. And Ashkenazi Jews do not cluster with Eastern Europeans or Central Asians. None of their prominent Y-haplogroups are prominent in Eastern Europeans or Central Asians either.

    The ones who peddle it are either just Christians trying to reconcile their hatred for Jews with worshipping someone who is a Sandmonkey, racial supremacists peddling heretical brands, “woke anti-semites” who attack Israel as a wider way of waging war on Whitey.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  357. @Vojkan

    Why would Russia, and countries in Eastern Europe and the Balkans, which all face severe demographic problems of declining population numbers, take up ineffective measures and promote vaccination if it kills people in numbers greater than what is statistically acceptable to fight a deadly disease like Covid-19? OK, I suppose you could say why did they allow this demographic problem to develop in the first place if they cared about their nations. But they all have professional health services and experts capable of investigating the Covid-19 problem without having to blindly follow orders from the WHO and the bosses of the NWO.

    I find that the anti-vaxxers are not being balanced in their presentations and are focusing only on some of the most sensationalist and fear inducing aspects, often speculative. I’m neither satisfied with the way the official media and the government are propagating their views but if you listen to some of the official health experts they tend to present a more balanced exposition than the anti-vaxxers. I do appreciate dissidents like C.J. Hopkins, David Icke and Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. as I think it’s important to always sound out warnings and try to prevent the drive towards totalitarian absolutism in society but I don’t necessarily have to agree with all their views.

    So if one is opposed to all these official impositions and the vaccines what should one do? Obviously spitting in the face or beating up those who wear masks or heckling people waiting for their vaccine shots is both rude and ineffective, as well as criminal. It is up to those who are actually in positions to do something about it to do so, the experts and government officials, or the people to rise in a massive tidal wave against them and replace them with some other ones who would perhaps be more truthful and responsible. Individuals complaining or insulting others on the Internet is not going to do it. If anything, these white anti-vaxxer dissidents should learn from those “more capable” people (he, he) such as the Nigerians and really mount an effective campaign that could resolve the issue to their satisfaction, based on a true and balanced exposition of all the scientific evidence.

    The Polio Vaccine Boycott in Northern Nigeria

    In northern Nigeria in 2003, the political and religious leaders of Kano, Zamfara, and Kaduna states brought the immunization campaign to a halt by calling on parents not to allow their children to be immunized. These leaders argued that the vaccine could be contaminated with anti-fertility agents (estradiol hormone), HIV, and cancerous agents…

    In response to public outcry about the polio vaccine, the Nigerian federal government set up a technical committee on October 29, 2003 to assess the safety of the polio vaccine, sending samples of the vaccine for laboratory tests abroad. The committee’s report, however, was rejected by the SCSN, which alleged that the Muslim community was not properly represented on the committee.

    In response to this allegation, the federal government appointed another technical committee, which included selected members of the Muslim group Jama’atu Nasril Islam, to further reconfirm the safety of the vaccine. But the SCSN again rejected the nominees, asking for the inclusion of its own nominees…

    This impasse was eventually resolved in July 2004 through dialogue, with religious leaders playing a significant role in the process. The federal government had invited political and religious leaders to a series of meetings in order to find a solution to the impasse. The WHO and UNICEF also played a role in breaking the deadlock. These meetings led to a consensus in February 2004 to accept the SCSN’s demand to test the vaccine independently in a Muslim country.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1831725/

    It’s embarrassing to see that these African Muslims are better organised and more effective in their protests than these supposedly superior White dissidents and right wingers.

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  358. @gatobart

    Probably right. Bye bye Canada et al., then. This won’t last forever, although it may outlast a middle-aged guy like me.

  359. @gatobart

    To us and the sixty-million-plus Hispanics in our country — more than half of whom are Mexican and almost none of whom are Chilean — “gringo” is not a positive term.

    Among the 100-million-plus Mexicans in Mexico, it’s not a positive term either, is it?

    But yeah, I wonder more how “gringo” is used in, say, some other Spanish-speaking country with a real significant population like, Uruguay or Panama.

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    , @gatobart
  360. @anon

    You’re right.

    Ashkenazi Jews (the majority of Jews in the USA and Israel) are typically mostly White European (primarily Italian) through the maternal line and mostly Semitic/“Middle Eastern” through the paternal line.

    Whatever “Jews” used to be before centuries of mixing in the Roman Empire and Europe, Ashkenazim nowadays are basically white Italian Semites with mis-spelled German and Slavic family names.

    There must be some scattered genetic heritage from Russia/Belarus, Ukraine, Poland, and Germany/Austria among many of the Ashkenazim, too.

    Jon Entine wrote a column about a study of Ashkenazi genetics for Genetic Literacy Project.

  361. gatobart says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Wow, you mean that sixty million “Hispanics” are living in a country in which they hate the vast White, English speaking, majority…? In any case, that is not my problem. I don’t hate Gringos and so I have no personal reason for me to stop calling them so.

  362. gatobart says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Probably right. Bye bye Canada et al., then. This won’t last forever, although it may outlast a middle-aged guy like me.

    In any case you sound like just another old, bitter, lonely man. Do your children still speak to you…? You ALL use race as an excuse to spill their bile.

  363. 789 says: • Website
    @Malla

    If you don’t have the text of “Fourth floor” I can e-mail it to you.
    There was also the Congressional hearing, Ambassador Smith testified and said the same thing

    Stanley Montieth

    There is also a Mexican (?) guy who wrote a whole book on Castro the CIA asset.

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  364. 789 says: • Website
    @HbutnotG

    Libertarians were always for unlimited enterprise (which can only lead to monopoly); for open borders; for free-trade.

    What can we expect from a Lisa Rosenbaum who was a slut home-wrecker who chased after other people’s husbands. Ron Paul named his son after this upstanding being who invented a cult.

  365. gatobart says:
    @789

    “There is also a Mexican (?) guy who wrote a whole book on Castro the CIA asset”.

    Wasn’t that by any chance the same guy who wrote a book about who had put the bomp in the bomp bah bomp bah bomp and the ram in the rama lama ding dong…?

  366. Vojkan says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Russia is an independent country and has its own vaccine. I can’t speak of other countries in Eastern Europe or the Balkans as I don’t have enough information or interest to form an opinion.
    As for Serbia, there has been an effort to turn it into a normal country after the fall of Milošević but it was reversed after current president Vučić rose to power in 2012. He has turned the country into a shithole and has had the support of the West to do so but with regards to vaccines, it’s people’s choice. You can choose which vaccine you’ll take between the Russian, Chinese or Western made, or you can choose to take none, so protesting vaccination isn’t Serbs’ current top priority.
    Anyway, the reluctance to be injected untested concoctions doesn’t necessarily translate into an anti-vaxx stance. It is not the principle of vaccination per se that is a problem; I actually consider that if the risk of being exposed to a pathogen that is likely to cause a mortal or debilitating disease is non-negligible in the period for which a vaccine provides a protection, then teaching the organism to react to such pathogens is the right thing to do. Now, that’s the principle. The problem is that the reality of vaccination isn’t made to fulfil the principle.

  367. @Malla

    You wanna hear the most fun part of it all? The main star Wagner Moura, and the movie director, Jose Padilha, are both woke leftists. They made the movie to show how the police is evil and dangerous, they wanted people to antagonize the police upon watching the movie. What happened? The vast majority of the Brazilian public saw it, absolutely loved it, and cheered on the main character’s actions. Captain Nascimento was supposed to be seen as the bad guy, people saw him as a hero.

    Moura even whined afterwards about how Scandinavians would never see such a violent police officer as a hero. Then the sequel (Tropa de Elite 2) amped up the propaganda, bringing on leftists militants and politicians into the mix to make it clear that they wanted you to hate the police.

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