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The 2016 Presidential election results (remember them?) were a vindication of four people:

Buchanan was a prophet—a man of foresight, courage, and vision who loved his people and delivered a warning that went unheeded. Trump had the benefit of running in light of the damage and wreckage that Buchanan predicted.

But four years later, pending the outcome of legal challenges raising legitimate questions about irregularities, anomalies and possible election fraud, we sit on the precipice of a Joe Biden presidency.

Joe Biden! A man who is arguably senile, when not convinced he is really Neil Kinnock, who ran a McKinley-style campaign from his basement in Delaware and who plans to open America’s borders.

What happened?

Here I’m relying on Fox News/ Associated Press’s analyses of voting behavior, which can be contrasted with its 2016 exit poll data. I have to say, though, that the data is much-disputed and is definitely subject to revision. But given its methodology and sample size, the data produced by Fox/AP appear to me to be the most accurate for now.

Republicans have been crowing about their alleged success in expanding the party’s demographic base in the 2020 election. But the GOP’s advance among racial minorities was more than off-set by marginal but decisive decreases in the white vote.

Quite a few in the commentariat, including some who should know better, are claiming that Trump is creating a multi-racial working class party that threatens to undermine the Democratic Party. But they are not reckoning with the fact of Trump’s losses in the Rust Belt or the reasons for them:

1) Despite much chatter to the contrary, Donald Trump did not win a larger share of the black vote in 2020.

In both 2016 and 2020, according to Fox/AP, Trump won 8% of blacks respectively. Moreover, blacks were a smaller share of the electorate in 2020 (11%) than 2016 (12%).

2020

Elections 2020 | Fox News

2016

Black

Total 12%

Hillary Clinton 89%

Donald Trump 8%

Gary Johnson 2%

Jill Stein 1%

2) While Donald Trump did better in 2020 among Hispanics, they were a smaller share of the electorate.

Trump won 35% of Hispanics in 2020 vs. 28% in 2016. But as a share of votes cast, Hispanics declined from 11% in 2016 to 9% in 2020.

2020

2016

Hispanic/Latino

Total 11%

Hillary Clinton 66%

Donald Trump 28%

Gary Johnson 3%

Jill Stein 2%

3) Trump lost crucial support among white voters, especially working-class men.

Whites were a larger percentage of the overall votes cast in 2020 (74%) than 2016 (71%). Trump won 57% of the white vote in 2016 and 55% in 2020. (This is worse than it looks, because 4.6% voted for Third Parties in 2016, almost all white, vs. just 2% in 2020).

It was assumed by many that white women would turn en masse against the President, but that was not the case. In 2020, Trump matched his percentage from 2016 (52%) among White women—who were also a larger slice of the electorate in 2020 than 2016 (39% vs. 37%).

Meanwhile, white men were 34% of the electorate in 2016 and 36% in 2020. But Trump declined with this demographic, slipping from 62% in 2016 to 59% in 2020.

2020

2016

White women

Total 37%

Hillary Clinton 43%

Donald Trump 52%

Gary Johnson 3%

Jill Stein 1%

2016

White Men

Total 34%

Hillary Clinton 31%

Donald Trump 62%

Gary Johnson 4%

Jill Stein 1%

The decline among whites was more pronounced among the working class than college graduates. Among white college graduates, Trump dropped to 46% from his 2016 total of 48%. But he suffered a steeper decline among white men without a college degree, winning 71% of that demographic in 2016 and just 64% in 2020.

2020

2016

White college graduates

Total 37%

Hillary Clinton 45%

Donald Trump 48%

Gary Johnson 4%

Jill Stein 1%

2020

2016

White men non-college graduates

Total 16%

Hillary Clinton 23%

Donald Trump 71%

Gary Johnson 4%

Jill Stein 1%

Had Trump maintained his 2016 percentage of white men without a college degree, he would have increased his national vote totals by 1.33%.

With the caveat that this percentage would not be spread equally among every state, here is a breakdown of several competitive states:

Given the overrepresentation of white males without college degrees in these states and the voting patterns tracked in exit polls at the state level, it appears that if Trump had merely held his 2016 national percentages among this demographic that he would have narrowly won Arizona, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin (Georgia is less clear) and today be plotting the contours of a second term rather than a legal strategy.

Current differences

 

Interestingly, Ryan Girdusky ran a simulation that closely matched the scenario of the election. He projected an election map if Trump lost 3% of the overall white vote but gained 10% of the Latino and 5% of the black vote. His predicted outcome looked like this:

Ryan Girdusky Tweet, September 16, 2020

Looking at election results from Michigan provides insight into Trump’s losses among white voters. Trump lost ground throughout the state, including rural areas. In counties in the western part of the state and even the Upper Peninsula, Biden outperformed Hillary Clinton and Trump underperformed compared to 2016.

Take the example of Kent County, home of Gerald Ford and the city of Grand Rapids, a growing metropolitan area which has typically been a Republican stronghold. In 2016, Trump carried it by 3.1%, but in 2020 he lost by 6%.

In Macomb County, home of the “Reagan Democrat,” Trump also ran behind his 2016 totals (11.5% margin in 2016 vs. 8% in 2020).

Similarly, in Georgia Biden made solid gains in counties that are predominantly white and those where most residents have no college degree.

In Pennsylvania, Biden’s largest tallies came from the dense population centers around Philadelphia and Pittsburgh and their respective suburbs. But Philadelphia County swung toward Trump by more than four percentage points compared with 2016.

Meanwhile, Trump lost ground in counties that he won handily in 2016 including York (3.8% shift), Lancaster (3.1% shift), Westmoreland (3.1% shift), Cumberland (6.8% shift) and Butler (3.6% shift), although the president held an enormous rally there with nearly 60,000 participants.

Trump underperformed his 2016 percentage of the vote across the country despite surpassing or at least matching his 2016 totals with major demographic groups (blacks, Hispanics, Evangelicals, white women, Mormons, and Jews) except white men.

The question is why? Fraud is certainly one possibility, but the cheating would have necessarily been systematic, across scores of jurisdictions.

Did GOP voters turn against the President out of sheer exhaustion or a desire for “normalcy”? Were white voters turned off by Jared Kushner’s pandering to minorities? Was it Covid related? Or was it Trump’s failure to aggressively pursue and campaign on a populist, nationalist economic agenda—specifically on immigration, as VDARE.com repeatedly complained?

In the first two years of Trump’s administration, with the GOP in complete control of the legislative branch, Trump had the opportunity to set a populist course and begin draining the “swamp.” Admittedly, there was opposition from all corners. But Trump failed to secure an infrastructure bill and turned over tax policy to Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell. The 2017 tax bill likely encouraged the offshoring of manufacturing and the administration did not follow through with the promise of taxing remittances to build a wall along the southern border.

Above all, he did not pass into law immigration cuts—let alone abolish Birthright Citizenship.

Trump did not tame the law enforcement and national security bureaucracies and in fact allowed them to dominate his presidency. He surrounded himself with staff and cabinet department heads that actively subverted his agenda.

Yet still, Trump had a record of modest but real success. Unemployment and inflation were low and wage growth for the working class rose faster than other groups[Wage Growth Is Unequal — But Not in Way We’ve Come to Expect, by Josh Barro, NYMag.com, January 14, 2020]. Despite the intransigence of neoconservatives, tentative steps to withdraw American troops from Syria and Afghanistan were underway and further U. S. wars were avoided.

Trump imposed significant tariffs on imports from China. He secured new trade deals with Canada and Mexico—along with ending the upsurge in illegal immigration through Mexico—by wielding tariffs as an economic and political weapon. He used his executive powers to start building a wall along the southern border, dramatically lowered refugee admissions and began controlling H1-B visas.

Despite significant opposition, he proved that immigration is not a force of nature beyond our control but responds to policy changes. The number of immigrants (legal and illegal) grew much more slowly beginning in 2017 and as Ed Rubenstein has chronicled, Trump has reversed the displacement of American workers by immigrants and brought about a 14-month decline in the Immigrant Workforce Population. And, belatedly, Trump instituted a temporary de facto anti-unemployment immigration moratorium.

All that changed with a virus that has killed nearly 250,000 Americans, terrified millions more and driven the economy over a cliff.

But the events of the last seven months—the virus, the quarantine, the economic slump, and the riots—also provided an opening to foment a populist and nationalist reaction. The “pandemic” and the response to it have demonstrated that the emperor has no clothes. The institutions and ideology of globalism have failed. No one is turning to the World Health Organization, European Union or United Nations for answers.

The publics of Western nations have lost faith in global institutions. They are prepared to accept alternative visions to move forward.

But in substance no one is offering it to them, least of all the oddly silent Trump Administration.

In a 1996 post-mortem of Pat Buchanan’s presidential campaign, Sam Francis argued that Buchanan failed because of a “proclivity to draw back from the implications of his own radicalism.” [From Household to Nation The Middle American Populism of Pat Buchanan, Chronicles, March 1996]

In his recent and very illuminating book The Stakes, Michael Anton offered a similar analysis of Trump:

There’s little wrong with President Trump that more Trump couldn’t solve. More populism. More nationalism. More patriotism. More law and order. More full-throated advocacy for the neglected American people, for the working class, for the Rust Belt and rural America, for religious believers and law-abiding gun owners. More defense of free speech against tech and corporate censorship and suppression, more support for his voters when they or their interests are attacked. In short, more adherence to the 2016 agenda.

But instead of stymying the rioters and the raving iconoclasts, the Trump campaign talked endlessly about prison reform and Joe Biden’s support for the 1994 Crime Bill. Rather than reining in Big Tech—or at the very least leaving Twitter publicly and moving to Gab—Trump issued vague and empty threats. Instead of drastic immigration cutbacks, rolling back Birthright Citizenship, getting a grip on the opioid epidemic and speaking to the anxieties of blue-collar whites, the campaign played up historically low unemployment rates for blacks and Hispanics. And in the face of shortages of key medical necessities manufactured in China, where were proposals to reinvigorate and revitalize American manufacturing or thoughtful discussions of the need for an industrial policy?

Creating a political coalition that includes sympathetic minorities without abandoning the interests of the Historic American Nation requires a full-throated economic nationalism that takes on a populist tint. Economic nationalism is the formula that can express the material interests and cultural values of Middle America and create solidarity among otherwise disparate groups. It is only the path forward and the 2020 Presidential Election proves it.

In the end, it appears inarguable that Trump erred when he forsook the Sailer Strategy for the Kushner Strategy—or, as Takimag’s brilliant David Cole calls it, “The Failer Strategy.”

Scot Olmstead [email him] writes from Middle America.

(Republished from VDare by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Fraud is certainly one possibility, but the cheating would have necessarily been systematic, across scores of jurisdictions.

    Yes, fraud was systematically employed. The voting machines were engineered specifically to allow them to be hacked and their totals to be manipulated. Both parties are aware of this and neither wanted to do anything about it because they each thought they could use it against the other.

    Both parties are just two mafia families trying to gain control.

    • Replies: @Drew
    , @anarchyst
    , @sally
    , @Corvinus
  2. Just stop it already.
    The virus did NOT “kill 250,000” Americans by any stretch of the imagination.

    Nor did the virus devastate the economy.
    Lockdowns devastated the economy.

    Stop giving credence to statistics that are systematically false and deliberately exaggerated.

    — People have been counted as “COVID-19 deaths” when they were NEVER tested for the virus.

    — The PCR test used to detect COVID-19 infection is not reliable or suited to the purpose, so there are an unacceptably large proportion of false positives (the test apparently reacts to other coronaviruses too).

    — People have been counted as “COVID-19 deaths” when they were already diagnosed with severe fatal conditions, including late-stage cancer, and were infected only after coming to the hospital or nursing home to die from the other condition.

    — Median age of even the inflated number of alleged “COVID-19 deaths” has been very high. People who are not very elderly and are not seriously immunocompromised already are not at particularly high risk of death or serious harm from this virus.

    See, among many other sources, the assessment of the medical doctors at Swiss Policy Research:

    http://www.swprs.org/covid19-facts

    If even “our guys” mindlessly spout ignorant hysterical garbage about “T H E V I R U S”, the public will never break free from their fear and mindless submission to the surveillance state. The article is otherwise on point, but the plan-demic hysteria made me lose respect for the author somewhat.

  3. Trump failed because he was basically a conman and criminal who believed in nothing except in worshipping his own ass. He had no deepset or heartfelt ideology, but simply developed certain fake popular riffs from imitating other real patriots or real white nationalists.

    He was not really interested in bringing back the glory days of US manufacturing, or reviving the white working class or the US farmer, in any case he never had the IQ or capability to do it even if he had the motivation, which he never had.

    Thus, as a simple conman and criminal, he was doomed to failure , just like how he failed in all his biggest property deals, but managed to grift into a luxurious lifestyle by tax cheating and financial fraud.

    It was an entertaining reality show while it lasted, but it only lasted one season, and he’s fired.

  4. botazefa says:

    The voting machines were engineered specifically to allow them to be hacked and their totals to be manipulated.

    I would put that in the category of highly unlikely. It’s a theory without evidence. Why state something so flimsy as fact?

  5. KenH says:
    @RadicalCenter

    — People have been counted as “COVID-19 deaths” when they were NEVER tested for the virus.

    That’s right. In the first 2-3 months people who died were automatically counted as COVID deaths if they only had some of the symptoms. Most were never tested and doctors refused to perform autopsies out of fear of catching COVID which many of the deceased were never proven to have. Or if they did have it that it was the primary cause of death.

    • Replies: @AReply
  6. Kushner had nothing to do with the loss and in fact I find it bizarre that his name is even mentioned. Blame the Jews as always I guess. Yawn.

    Here are the numbers you need to look at:
    https://morningconsult.com/2020/09/29/obamacare-support-polling-supreme-court/

    A record-high 62% of voters support the Affordable Care Act, including 85% of Democrats and 36% of Republicans.

    56% of voters say the ACA should be improved and strengthened, while 20% say the law should be struck down and 9% say it should be left alone.

    Trump and the DC Republicans went with the 20% position. Kushner did not make them adopt such a mind blowingly stupid strategy. Even if you are against the ACA it is still a horrible strategy to outright try and destroy it.

    That combined with poor ratings over the virus is what did him in. Not a Jewish son in law. Have a look at how much his ratings dropped among independents over the virus:
    https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2020-06-10/trumps-poll-numbers-plummet-across-the-political-spectrum-amid-coronavirus-protests

    • Disagree: GazaPlanet, TheTrumanShow
    • Replies: @Angharad
    , @RedpilledAF
    , @Ugetit
  7. Sean says:

    White women stayed with Trump. He said two decades ago that he gets on better with women because they are “tougher and smarter”. Biden was well advised to keep harping on the “fine people” accusation against Trump and by implication anyone who supported him. Rittenhouse likely didn’t help ward off that perception.

    I think the mainstream media got into the heads of white men supporting Trump, not all of them flipped, but enough did to lose Trump the election. They were so affected by being called vile racists they were dissuaded from voting for Trump, and now are doubtless exhibiting cognitive dissonance about exactly why they helped elect Biden.

  8. Rosie says:
    @Sean

    White women stayed with Trump.

    As I understand it, Trump list a significant chunk of the White working-class women who voted for him in 2016, a group that keeps getting ignored in these articles for some reason. It almost like there is some sort of resistance to acknowledging the truth about what divides White Americans. As Slick Willy said, “It’s the economy, stupid.”

    White women without a college degree are a yuge percentage of the electorate, such that even dips in enthusiasm would be devastating for Trump.

    • Replies: @Sean
  9. IvyMike says:

    Given the prevailing view among Unz readers that whites are smarter than blacks and browns it appears Trump lost because the smart people figured out what a blowhard obnoxious empty suit he truly is.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    , @Wally
  10. Double D says:
    @RadicalCenter

    He uses scare quotes around “pandemic” in the next paragraph. Looks like he is simply putting forth what is the conventional narrative without necessairly endorsing it.

    • Replies: @anon
  11. @IvyMike

    Given the prevailing view among Unz readers that whites are smarter than blacks and browns it appears Trump lost because the smart people figured out what a blowhard obnoxious empty suit he truly is.

    He is certainly an obnoxious blowhard but that doesn’t mean the smart thing to do is hand the presidency over to someone who referred to Kim Jong as “that Korean guy”.

    Only in America could people decide that the best way to punish a blowhard president is to give his job to a senile White guilter that couldn’t remember the name of our number one enemy.

    Get ready for 2 years of non-stop damage control from the press before President Harris takes over.

    Liberals are partying now but there will be a cold sinking of reality once he starts answering live questions. Enjoy the party while you can.

  12. Rosie says:
    @John Johnson

    Only in America could people decide that the best way to punish a blowhard president is to give his job to a senile White guilter that couldn’t remember the name of our number one enemy.

    So far as we know, it was the only way. If you have some other ideas, please share with the class.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  13. AndrewR says:
    @RadicalCenter

    If “our guys” have to deny clear reality just to pwn the libs or whatever, then “our guys” are really dumb.

    The numbers speak for themselves. Hospitals in many places are at or near capacity (again.) In NYC, in particular, in April, the mortality rate skyrocketed over the norm.

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6919e5.htm

    Remember, “our guys” (I’m including people with triple digit IQs who can think critically, so some of the present company may be excluded) were sounding the alarm on the virus back in February and early March when Democrats were telling people to go hug a Chinese person and gather en masse to fight xenophobia.

    This absolutely is a pandemic. Just because people you don’t like have done things you don’t like doesn’t mean it’s not.

    • Disagree: Robert Dolan
    • Troll: GeneralRipper
    • Replies: @Rufus Clyde
  14. Trump lost supporters among white working class men? Could it be that many of these supporters simply didn’t survive? (e.g. early death, suicide, drug addiction, job loss, etc.). That’s one way to lose supporters.

    • Replies: @JohnPlywood
    , @Defcon
  15. Well ?
    Only one opinion. Not necessarily correct one!

  16. Very interesting analysis. It’s fascinating that if you give White citizens what they want, they’ll vote for you.

    Fourth, Ann Coulter, whose book Adios America seems to have been read in Trump’s orbit and provided much of the rhetorical ammunition for his immigration agenda—in 2016.

    And she got the key concepts and terminology straight from Bob Whitaker, which is pretty interesting in itself. It’s obvious it came from him, but she could never credit him and be published.

  17. Angharad says:
    @John Johnson

    Except is is Kushner, and the Jews. Trump’s biggest mistake was allowing the Chabad, White HATING arrogant flat worm grifter JEW Kushner anywhere near him, let alone into the heart of power. He allowed the zionist to drive out any Cabinet members and staff that had a shred of talent away, and allowed Kushner and the brainless Ivanka to choose those that would advance their business deals, American Goyim be utterly and thoroughly damned. Trump’s been surrounded by Jews his entire life, and done everything for the Tribe – and they’ve stabbed him in the neck. It’s his own fault for allowing this – but it’s their Eternal Nature. Yes. It’s the JEWS.

  18. Wally says:
    @botazefa

    Please pay attention:

    [MORE]

    MIT PhD Analysis of Michigan Votes Reveals Unfortunate Truth of U.S. Voting Systems:

    The “Dominion” of Election Fraud?
    …Exposing the Dominion Voting Machines.
    : https://www.unz.com/article/the-dominion-of-election-fraud/

    ‘Drop and Roll’: The system for stealing votes from Trump / how it was done:
    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/11/drop_and_roll_the_system_for_stealing_votes_from_trump.html
    included:

    Sidney Powell: ‘Staggering’ evidence of vote fraud, Dominion machines engineered by China, Venezuela, Cuba:
    https://noqreport.com/2020/11/15/sidney-powell-staggering-evidence-of-vote-fraud-dominion-machines-engineered-by-china-venezuela-cuba/

    US Military Raided Scytl Servers In Germany For Evidence After Vote Switching Scandal
    https://greatgameindia.com/us-military-raided-scytl-germany/

    • Replies: @botazefa
  19. Sean says:
    @Rosie

    That makes white people the only racial group in which a majority voted for Trump, as Charles M. Blow notes at the New York Times.

    The fact that Trump appears to have picked up votes since 2016 with every racial group except white men also got a lot of attention (though what appears to be a small gain among white women has been less remarked upon).

    The “fine people” stuff he harped on (almost certainly on advice it was effective) paid off for Biden only with white men. Due to long standing conditioning of white men to prioritise not being perceived as racist by themselves or others, Biden had to apply relatively little pressure.

    • Replies: @Tom Rogers
    , @Rosie
  20. @John Johnson

    He is certainly an obnoxious blowhard but that doesn’t mean the smart thing to do is hand the presidency over to someone who referred to Kim Jong as “that Korean guy”.

    That is certainly not worse–no matter the clinical condition–than some asshole saying he’s “in love” with the Korean pig. There were even jokes about “the couple’s first date” having gone so well, but then… In fact, I think saying he’s “in love with him” is much more pathological, but Trump has no class by the usual standards, even the true standards. He was never accepted in the ‘best social circles of Manhattan’, no Brooke Astor wanted him, no Gloria Vanderbilt (and now her son Anderson Cooper) wanted this type.

    The same was true of Jared, who was always envious of the even richer Jews of Short Hills, New Jersey, one of the most affluent communities in the U.S. Neither of them unlike Leona Helmsley, vulgar and Jewish from Brooklyn.

  21. Wally says:
    @IvyMike

    I remind you that the Trump actually won, but so far the election is being stolen. There’s much to prove that, if you look.

    And BTW:

    [MORE]

    – “White students are nearly 4.5 grade levels ahead of their black peers within Atlanta Public Schools.”
    – In San Francisco, 70% of white students are proficient in math; for black students, it is 12% — a gap of 58%.
    – In Washington, D.C., 83% of white students scored proficient in reading, as did only 23% of black students — a gap of 60%.
    – In Philadelphia, 47% of black students scored below basic in math and 42% scored below basic in reading. –
    – In Baltimore, 59% of black students scored below basic in math and 49% in reading. In Detroit, 73% of black students scored below basic in math and 56% in reading.

    – “Below basic” is the score a student receives when he is unable to demonstrate even partial mastery of knowledge and grade level skills.

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/11/walter-e-williams/correct-diagnostics-needed/

    – “In 2016, in 13 of Baltimore’s 39 high schools, not a single student scored proficient on the state’s mathematics exam.
    – In six other high schools, only 1 percent tested proficient in math. In raw numbers, 3,804 – Baltimore students took the state’s math test, and 14 tested proficient
    -Citywide, only 15 percent of Baltimore students passed the state’s English test.
    Of the nation’s 100 largest school systems, Baltimore schools rank third in spending per pupil.
    – Baltimore’s black students receive diplomas that attest that they can function at a 12th-grade level when in fact they may not be able to do so at a seventh- or eighth-grade level.
    -These students and their families have little reason to suspect that their diplomas are fraudulent. – Thus, if they cannot land a good job, cannot pass a civil service exam, get poor grades in college and flunk out of college, they will attribute their plight to racism.
    – After all, they have a high school diploma, just as a white person has a high school diploma. In their minds, the only explanation for being treated differently is racism.”

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/11/walter-e-williams/black-self-sabotage-2/

    • Replies: @GreatSocialist
  22. AReply says:
    @KenH

    This harping about Covid being overplayed is super tedious.

    If you say something like..,

    “I wonder why everyone is fresking out about Covid, when 40,000 people a year in US successfully kill themselves and no one says a peep, so what’s up with our society?”

    …I can follow such rhetoric.

    But this recurring griping about a Covid hoax is bullshit. Same goes for crying about evil jews and antifa.

    As to f’ing Pat Buchanon omg what a major league asshole. When will this part of America finally croak?

    Even William Buckley couldn’t take it:

    //In December 1991, a 40,000-word article by William F. Buckley Jr. was published in the National Review discussing antisemitism among conservative commentators focused largely on Buchanan; the article and many responses to it were collected in the book In Search of Anti-Semitism (1992). He concluded: “I find it impossible to defend Pat Buchanan against the charge that what he did and said during the period under examination amounted to anti-Semitism”.[56][57]
    The Anti-Defamation League has called Buchanan an “unrepentant bigot” who “repeatedly demonizes Jews and minorities and openly affiliates with white supremacists.”[58] In article for The Washington Post in March 1992, conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer suggested: “The real problem with Buchanan … is not that his instincts are antisemitic but that they are, in various and distinct ways, fascistic.”[59] “There’s no doubt,” said Krauthammer in 1999 when contacted for a Salon article, “he makes subliminal appeals to prejudice.” He added: “The interesting thing is how he can say these things and still be considered a national figure.”[22] Buchanan denies assertions that he is an antisemite, and some of his fellow journalists, including Murray Rothbard,[60] Jack Germond, Al Hunt and Mark Shields, have defended him against the charge.[61]//

    “I’m not a bigot, I just hate and demean certain classes based on ethnic criteria!”

    • Troll: GeneralRipper, Bill
    • Replies: @Poco
  23. MarkU says:
    @John Johnson

    I agree with most of what you say but to describe North Korea or Kim Jong Un as our greatest enemy is simply nonsense. As in the case of Iran, the first meddling and the continuation of hostility since has come from the West.

    North Korea was to be helped to use light water reactors at one point but ole mister agreement-incapable uncle Sam blew that option out of the window. All they wanted was security reassurance and a peace treaty but no such luck.

    Iran would most likely be solidly in the western sphere if we hadn’t knocked their government over and installed a butcher and torturer who provoked the rise of fanatics and quite understandable hatred of the US and the UK.

    Russia would have been happy to help with the ‘defence shield’ and wanted to join NATO but that was just too damned easy.

    China wouldn’t have been half the power they are now if Western jobs hadn’t been outsourced there.

    The West’s enemies, particularly the US’s enemies have been created, deliberately it seems.

    • Agree: Fred777
  24. I’m sorry. I wanted to believe what this author states but his statistical analysis is right out of the book How to Lie with Statistics. Too much sleight of hand here. I don’t have time to write a treatise in reply

  25. @GreatSocialist

    You sure are of at least an average intelligence,right?

    Want to wager that you are completely wrong?

  26. Two words, those being; vote fraud. On a scale not previously imaginable.

    I’m not a big Trump fan. But the reality is that we are given just two choices. If you are content to have your vote stolen, you are nuts.

    • Agree: GeneralRipper
  27. anon[245] • Disclaimer says:

    Trump ran in 2016 as an outsider. But after he won in 2016, he decided to govern as an outsider. He was the most powerful man in America, with a staff of pr professionals, unlimited access to the press, and he insists on using Twitter like a teenage girl.
    Instead of furthering his foreign policy agenda, he brings in John Bolton. Who promptly worked feverishly to gin up a Middle East War, and then sabotaged his North Korea Deal. Ending with Bolton’s firing and tell all book.
    His leadership style was to Troll Democrats, goading them into behaving badly, enraging them even more. It was a shit show, but after a while, it got tedious.
    The Republicans were so flummoxed by Roosevelt, they went on to nominate a string of three celebrity candidates, all of whom went on to win. Eisenhower was a capable and experienced leader. Reagan was surprisingly effective, and when he when it was called for, a professional actor who knew to keep on script. And then there was Trump being Trump.
    And I voted for the guy. His outsider posturing was refreshing, but when he tried to govern as a backbencher, what was the point of winning.

  28. I agree that too many people are making too much of Trump’s gains with minorities. They weren’t that impressive. And why play the game within the game? The point is to win elections, and if that takes more white votes than minority votes, then more white votes is what a candidate should go after. Getting more minority votes when you lose the election is not much of a consolation. That was the strategy Democrats used to lose most presidential elections between 1968 and 2004.

    But I don’t think the “Kushner Strategy” is why Trump lost this particular election. His loss can be explained by three things: COVID-19, Trump’s polarizing political style, and Trump’s bad governance.

    First, COVID-19. Trump was trailing Biden in early February by around 5 points. By Election Day, that margin was up to between 7 and 8 points. Once we take into account the polls consistent low measurement of Trump support, that alone explains the election.

    COVID also allowed Biden to hide out for nearly the entire general election campaign, which worked greatly to his advantage.The Democratic voters in Iowa’s caucus and New Hampshire’s primary had already shown Joe that they more they saw him, they less they liked him. Biden’s candidacy was saved by Clyburn in South Carolina and then COVID, which effectively closed down Biden’s democratic competitor Bernie Sanders.

    Second, Trump’s polarizing style. When the votes are all counted, Trump will have won close to 12 million more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016, which was a high turnout election. He will also have won more votes in each of the 50 states than he did four years ago. No losing incumbent president has ever come close to that achievement.

    Let’s be clear. There was no shift away from Trump. All the people who voted for him in 2016 almost certainly voted for him again if they were alive and able to do so in 2020. You don’t gain 12 million votes over four years with any of your supporters shifting away from you.

    The problem for Trump was that he also greatly motivated the opposition. Hillary won 65 million votes in 2016. Biden, an inferior candidate, will have won 15 million more when all the votes are counted. Even if we believe that massive fraud – say, a million votes – was likely, Biden’s vote total was still unprecedented for any presidential candidate in the general election. Even Barack Obama only got 69 million votes in 2008.

    I think we are all in agreement that this massive turnout for Biden had nothing to do with the candidate himself. Unlike Obama, he was not exciting or novel. He’d run for president twice before before and barely received a whimper of support among Democrats.

    Biden had only one thing going for him in 2020, but it turned out to be the biggest vote driver in U.S. political history. He wasn’t Trump.

    Third, Trump’s bad governance. Trump shot himself in the foot over and over and over again. Not just COVID-19, but think of the hiring of Bolton and Mattis. Even his stewardship of the economy, which generally got highlighted by Trump supporters, can be reduced to easy credit and generous spending.

    I think many white voters who disliked Trump but were not adamantly against him until this year, could have been mollified if Trump had been a better executive. But it seemed that every week Trump gave new proof to the notion that he simply had no idea how to govern. Many people were turned off by that.

    Anyway, those are my three reasons for why Trump lost this election.

    • Agree: clyde
    • Replies: @Joseph Doaks
  29. @RadicalCenter

    The adults in the room are trying to look at data. Take your tinfoil hat and proceed to suck on it like a pacifier.

    • Replies: @Rufus Clyde
  30. Thomasina says:
    @GreatSocialist

    It’s looking likely he WILL win the election, though.

    Trump is the man who has held up a mirror.

    Trump has shone a light on the Big Tech monopolies and the power they wield (censorship, banning, loss of speech).

    Trump has shone a light on the media monopolies (the lying, half-truths, outright omissions).

    Trump has shone a light on corruption and fraud (the Clinton and Biden families being prime examples).

    Trump has shone a light on the FBI, CIA, NSA, State Department, Department of Justice (all corrupt, looking the other way, lack of prosecutions).

    Trump has shone a light on election fraud (ongoing).

    Trump has shone a light on the elite (or should I say they have shone a light on themselves?)

    Trump has shone a light on the war machine (and he hasn’t started any wars).

    Yes, it HAS been an entertaining “reality” show. Reality is rearing its ugly head. Take a look in the mirror.

    Trump has been an unbelievable success.

  31. Thomasina says:
    @botazefa

    When the media appear unable to stop their lying, when Big Tech censors and bans, when Trump gets spied on by the Obama administration, when he is falsely accused of colluding with the Russians, when WMD were nowhere to be found, when the Twin Towers collapsed into their own footprint, are you seriously saying they wouldn’t stoop to rigging the election? Because the evidence is all pointing that way.

    Congressmen, professors, IT experts have all warned that these machines can be easily hacked.

  32. Nisbe says:

    Do people really think Biden will ever get into the WH?

    I suggest watching the Rudy Giuliani and Trump Campaign Officials News Conference at the RNC, it’s pretty clear Biden’s handlers tried to steal the election from President Trump, and there is evidence of that (concrete evidence, not just circunstancial).

    Disclaimer: I don’t agree with some of Trump’s decisions (specially the presence of Kushner in the WH, given the fact he is a member of the Jewish supremacist anti-Christian Chabad group) but it seems pretty obvious that Biden was no alternative to Trump, even if you don’t want to see Trump having another mandate (which I do, Trump’s courage in the face of the deep state and its weaponized msm, big tech and corrupt IC is what allowed many in the general public to see how deep the corruption runs).

  33. Jay Fink says:

    One of the reasons I vote Republican is they have traditionally been tough on crime. I hated Trump’s criminal justice reform and I do think Kushner was a huge influence on that. I also disliked how Trump would bash Biden for the 1994 crime bill. There are many things you can legitimately criticize Joe Biden for but the crime bill was not one of them.

  34. @Sean

    There is a possible opposite explanation, which is that the ‘white men’ being referred to are generically pro-white, voted Trump in 2016 and would have voted Trump in 2020 too, but didn’t because, rightly or wrongly, they perceive him as useless. Not only that, they didn’t vote for Biden either. They just didn’t turn out at all – hence the lower white male vote for Trump in comparison to 2016.

    Did Trump actually build the Southern Border Wall or make significant progress in that venture? No. Could he have done? Yes. He commissioned efforts at strengthening physical border measures, but there is no wall. The President has the executive power to draft a military and construction engineers and workers in the effort and to direct budgets towards it, and the United States could have had a Southern Border Wall across the entire Mexican border inside four years, or very significant progress towards such – had there been the political will on the part of the chief executive. He didn’t do it.

    Did he actually make significant progress on stopping Third World immigration to the United States? No, though for the sake of balance, I take on board the points and observations in defence of Trump contained in the opening essay and I am willing to accept that efforts were made in the right direction. Nevertheless, there were few substantive efforts and I rather suspect that most of what was done was PR and grandstanding. He could have done more within the ambit of his executive powers alone. Much more.

    Did Trump proscribe antifa and BLM? No. In fact, his administration variously supported or instituted prosecutions of their victims. [Note: I don’t personally take those movements seriously and I think their impact is exaggerated by alarmist Fake Right attention-seekers. Even so, the observations stands that Trump did nothing, or worse, prosecuted their victims].

    Did Trump bring major social media providers within the ambit of public carrier regulations or insist that they obey the First Amendment? No. [Note: I personally would not have agreed with such measures as I regard Facebook and Twitter as private entities (as well as a toxic waste of time), nevertheless the observation stands that Trump took no such action].

    Did Trump introduce an American public healthcare system similar to the NHS? No. Before somebody wearing a bow-tie sneers about ‘big government’, do you actually think ordinary Americans (blue collar/white collar/whatever) want to pay insurance companies for their healthcare?

    I could go on, but won’t labour the point further, and anyway, I’m sure others could argue with me over the finer points and details. I appreciate this, but a more truthful question would be not why more white men didn’t vote for Trump, but why should they vote for such a useless president, now or ever? Or really, for anybody at all? The onus is on Trump, and other presidential candidates, to provide an answer, not to assume support and take a constituency for granted.

    Fair or not, accurate or not, right or wrong, the ‘big picture’ is that Trump did……nothing. He was a nothing president. He is nothing. He is essentially a nobody, albeit a nobody with apparently lots of money. That view will stand even if he somehow manages to lawyer his way into a second term. He will still be the Nothing President, even after eight years, and will fade into grey, taking his canister of hot air with him.

    • Agree: Franklin Ryckaert
    • Replies: @JohnPlywood
    , @Anonymous
    , @Sean
  35. @John Johnson

    “Blame the Jews as always I guess. Yawn.”

    Thank you for the input sayanim. How very hasbara of you.

    • LOL: Sulu
    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  36. People keep misunderstanding one thing: W/CWM being repulsed by the dumb oaf’s pandering & platinum plan doesn’t mean they “flipped” for smarmy swamper Biden, it just means they stayed at home rather than watch four more years of taking Jared’s kosher sausage.

    • Agree: AKINDLE
  37. Rosie says:
    @Sean

    The fact that Trump appears to have picked up votes since 2016 with every racial group except white men also got a lot of attention (though what appears to be a small gain among white women has been less remarked upon).

    Trump’s gain among White women seems to be a function of the fact that there were no third party candidates. 43% of WW voted for Clinton, compared to 44% for Biden.

    On the other hand, White women decreased from 37% to 32% of the electorate. I suspect that liberal women were less motivated to vote against the evil racist Trump that doesn’t actually exist and populist women were demoralized by his cucking (“greatest numbers ever”). Women without a college degree are more numerous than women with a college degree, so I assume this worked against him.

    http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2020/11/19/2020-autopsy-class/

  38. Ugetit says:

    But he suffered a steeper decline among white men without a college degree…

    While I’m not part of that demographic, it supports my “street” observation that non-college types are often smarter than the hordes of bone-idle, brainless morons coming out of the institutions of higher brainwashing.

    Many have figured out that the whole system is a con while those who were dumb enough to go deep into debt or party on mommy and daddy’s dime to obtain a piece of paper claiming competence in making party favors, or its equivalent, likely believe it can continue forever. Who, but the brainwashed, can be so blind as to miss the fact the system was never intended to benefit anyone but the scum at the top and that we beasts below, goyim or not, are only means to a usually nefarious end?

    [MORE]

    The US of popular mythology never existed and even that died well over a century ago. Nearly every president since Lincoln has been a con man and every one since Woodie has been.

    For a glimpse as to how the circus really works, Curtis Dall’s book, “FDR: My Exploited Father in Law,” contains more than a few clues and here’s a sample, straight from a guy born with a golden spoon in his mouth and a view from the inside.:

    Instead of the administration implementing the platform, as was represented to the people, out popped a so-called “Brain Trust.” This was a small group of men, all very personable individuals who advanced some political ideas of the advisors, some C.F.R. leaders, a few bankers and other internationalists, to the administration for legislative action.

    – Curtis Bean Dall, My Exploited Father in Law, Introduction, pg 67, (1968).
    http://aaargh.vho.org/fran/livres4/dall.pdf

    This feeling came from the average voter, not from a few very high-level Republicans who were, and are today, snugly closeted in the advisor group that controls both the Republican and Democratic Parties.

    – Curtis Bean Dall, My Exploited Father in Law, Introduction, pg 68, (1968).
    http://aaargh.vho.org/fran/livres4/dall.pdf

    But after a while, [my] confusion faded and the program being foisted upon the unsuspecting, almost childish American people slowly emerged.

    Our leaders are clearly responsible for the welfare of those who have bestowed upon them the mandate to lead, not a mandate to mis-lead, thereby violating their public trust! Regrettably, that trust was lightly regarded and violated by FDR in the pursuit of personal political ambition.

    – Curtis Bean Dall, My Exploited Father in Law, Introduction, pg 102, (1968).
    http://aaargh.vho.org/fran/livres4/dall.pdf

  39. @botazefa

    Highly unlikely? Seriously? There was MASSIVE vote flipping done through known vulnerabilites in the Dominion software. Whan you look regression analyses of the vote in counties just in Michigan, for example, it shows things that are quite simply not possible…..unless they were manipulated by an algorithm. And no, Trump did not do worse in rural counties. The algorithm was designed to flip a higher percentage of votes to Biden in counties with a higher percentage of Trump voters.

    When ALL of the various methods of voter fraud, electronic election fraud, software ‘glitches’, miscounts, overcounts, undercounts, and massive 4:00 AM ballot dumps only work in favor of Biden, and not one documented or suspected ‘mistake’ working in favor of Trump, it is patently obvious to anyone with eyes to see that there was fraud of epic proportion.

    And no, Trump did not do worse with White voters. Again, when the software flips proportionately greater percentages of votes from Trump to Biden in precincts and counties that are heavily Republican, those are WHITE voters whose votes are being taken away from Trump and given to Biden.

    And yes, Trump most certainly did do even better with Black voters this time around, probably at least 12% if you look at states other than GA, PA, MI, and WI. Because when you have 4:00 AM ballot dumps of hundreds of thousands of ballots being delivered to vote counting centers in places like Detroit and Philly, and all of them for Biden, so that the number of physical ballots roughly matches the number of votes that got flipped to Biden, those are BLACK voters who are having their votes changed from Trump to Biden.

    No proof? Seriously?? The proofs are everywhere for anyone who cares to look.

    • Agree: Sulu
    • Replies: @botazefa
  40. Ugetit says:
    @John Johnson

    Blame the Jews as always I guess. Yawn.

    Would it help to attenuate your oscitancy if we also placed blame on the willing shabbos goyim?

  41. All that changed with a virus that has killed nearly 250,000 Americans…

    With a virus that has been widely reported (mimicked) to have killed 250,000.
    The author should perhaps look into those actual causes of death, or just stop parroting what the mainstream says.

  42. @GreatSocialist

    C’mon, he loves Ivanka and Israel too.

  43. Mike Tre says:

    John Johnson, John Plywood, and several other trolls with these phone book names are nothing more obvious agitators, likely Hindus, that claim to be white Americans but when you read them closer they hate whites and support unfettered immigration so their filthy relatives can pile in here by the container load and defecate literally and figuratively all over the place.

    • Replies: @brandybranch
  44. @Tom Rogers

    You guys are both off. So is Rosie (as usual).

    White male support for Trump declined because they realized Trump had become the idol of paranoid schizophrenics, self employed females, illegal aliens, professional wrestling fans, methheads, etc. These people (you people) turned Republican politics in to a disgusting spectacle of cuckery, matrism, #MeToo (pedogate/Qanon), paranoia about black crime, jerbs, etc. Then, Trump revealed what an incompetent bloviating fucktard he is by mismanaging the COVID-19 pandemic worse than the third world. White males, having escaped the massacre of job losses suffered by minorities, which drew them to Trump in 2020 in the first place, abandoned him.

    White males didn’t come out for Trump because of his stupid border rhetoric or his anti-China facade. After all, whites pulled for Trump at the same rate as Romney.

    https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/jeb-bush-pac-caught-taking-illegal-money-from-chinese-corporation-11113023

    The only reason Trump got elected is because he wasn’t facing Obama. There are also very real concerns (supported by the CIA) that Russian interference swung the election in Trump’s favor. No support from Russia = no Trump in the white house.

    Trump isn’t the white working class candidate. He’s the Russia-China candidate.

    Women and minorities were more likely to vote for him because he’s the “jerbs” candidate and they thought he would lift the lockdown so they could go back to selling tacos and working at the DMV.

    • Replies: @Tom Rogers
    , @Rich
    , @Sean
  45. @A Competent Physicist

    White males were the least affected by the job losses, and this year it was minorities who suffered the excess deaths. Which is why you saw a net increase in Trump support since to minorities no job = no inherent sense of self-value.

  46. The whole premise of this article is incorrect. Trump won the election, and he did it by not following the Sailer Strategy. Given an accurate count, Trump would be sweeping the country with 410 electoral votes.

    He did not lose the election at all. The Democrats are trying to steal it. Casting the Democratic theft as a vindication of the Sailer Strategy is frankly pathetic.

  47. botazefa says:
    @Wally

    Your links are not compelling and offer no actual evidence of electronic voter fraud in the 2020 US election. I’m not saying it isn’t possible. What I am saying is that actual evidence needs to be provided and analyzed.

  48. Hans says:

    Nonsense. He won bigger than in 2016 and once again buggered the in-place rigging. They were forced to resort to out in the open theft. Not many white working class folks at his rallies though. They were all drawing circles at Old Joes.

    • Replies: @Scut Farkus
  49. “Among white college graduates, Trump dropped to 46% from his 2016 total of 48%. But he suffered a steeper decline among white men without a college degree, winning 71% of that demographic in 2016 and just 64% in 2020.”

    Even if you (white men without a college degree) were turned off by Kushner’s alleged pandering to minorities, you don’t go vote for the opposition which will surely bury you… this goes to show you that stupid isn’t curable!

  50. Drew says:
    @RoatanBill

    While fraud seems to have been systematically employed in the election, Trump made a bunch of unforced errors during his term. Hearing people complain about fraud is like listening to a losing football team complaining about refereeing. Sure, the bad calls probably flipped the game, but it’s not like the losing team was blowing the doors off. If the contest is close enough where cheating can make a difference, then the loser definitely made some mistakes that contributed to the loss

    • Agree: follyofwar, Jtgw
    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  51. botazefa says:
    @George True

    No proof? Seriously?? The proofs are everywhere for anyone who cares to look.

    What you describe is not proof. Proofs require evidence.

    I personally feel like there was cheating via mail in ballots, but I can’t prove it.

    Can you prove it? Not theoretically. Not in prose. Not with anecdotes.

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
    , @follyofwar
  52. botazefa says:
    @McChuck

    The evidence is obvious for those who will simply open their eyes.

    You are conflating ‘allegations’, as detailed in your breitbart link, with ‘evidence.’ It reminds me of the Russian collusion allegations that produced no evidence.

    We need evidence presented in court.

  53. @Mike Tre

    LOL! they are a filthy pathetic lot aren’t they?

  54. Trump won the election. The election is illegitimate due to massive fraud.

    I’m not sure I believe any of the figures on voting stats.

    There is no way that Biden got more votes than any candidate in history. Biden had 90 to 150% turnouts where 65% is the norm. No way Biden got more votes than Obama. His rallies were pathetic.

    As to those that keep harping about “evidence,” the facts I mentioned above are a good start.

    If Dominion simply altered numbers digitally how would you find it other than to look at the RESULTS and see that something is off. If you are waiting for Soros to raise his hand and proclaim,”The Jews did it!” then you are waiting in vain.

    I have a feeling that the elite has been tampering with elections forever. I don’t think we will ever have a legitimate election again anywhere on this earth. The system is corrupt to the core, Jewed in every way possible.

    • Agree: anarchyst
  55. Defcon says:
    @A Competent Physicist

    It comes down to him disenfranching his base, talking down on his “white supremacists” supporters. Tweeting constantly about black unemployment, while whites were losing their jobs in droves. Refused to call out BLM, barely mentioning antifa, while every news outlet called us nazis. The only reason he won in 2016 is that the “racist” white males turned out in numbers that overturned the fraud from the left. We “white supremacists” didn’t turn out this year, his pandering to minorities didn’t bridge that gap. If when being accused of supporting Charlottesville racists he could have said that the left supports a bunch of BLM jogger animals and communists. The right plays by the rules set by their opposition, I’ve been hearing ‘racist” my entire life, it means nothing at this point. Why do we care about %12 of the population that essentially is a net negative to our society?

  56. @Drew

    I understand your point. However, cheating is still cheating in any contest and the cheating side should face consequences.

    You bring up a larger issue. The entire electoral system is plain stupid. We have two contestants for this game and the one that squeaks by wins. That means that half the population doesn’t get what it wants. How is that fair?

    I don’t believe in democracy as currently practiced, especially in a country with a population as large as the US has. One gov’t over 300+ million people doesn’t make sense. 50 gov’ts over 300+ million people still isn’t optimal, but certainly better than one.

    I’ll believe in democracy and elections when gov’ts shrink down to smaller and smaller population jurisdictions so representation is closer and closer to the people it purports to represent. Optimally, there should be 1 leader for every 1 person, and that’s called anarchism – the best form of democracy.

    • Agree: Drew
  57. @Intelligent Dasein

    While I agree that this article largely stinks, Trump did do some good things along the lines of the Sailer Strategy. Notably, the administration cut immigration in half.

  58. I don’t believe this article, partly because it ignores the voter fraud, partly because it totally ignores the statistical impossibility of various aspects of this election (Trump dominated Florida and Ohio and won 18 of the 19 most accurate bellwether counties (1980) and yet somehow “lost” overall – this is a statistical fluke beyond all reason), and partly because I personally know no fewer than 10 working class white people who did not vote for Trump in 2016 but did this year. I even know 3 white libertarians who voted for him.

    • Agree: anarchyst
  59. AKINDLE says:
    @GreatSocialist

    Totally agree. Trump got Thumped! He actually lost worse than Hillary Clinton back in 2016. He lost the popular and electoral vote. Now he has all of his government lawyers trying to dredge up some kind of fraud. I guess for all of his pandering to black rappers, his platinum plan, another DACA amnesty and letting his beloved black felons out of jail was pretty laughable as none of them came out and voted for him. I think a lot of whites got just sick of his pandering and stayed home. He and his staff made utter fools of themselves.

  60. anarchyst says:
    @RoatanBill

    The author appears to be a “college boy” who is over-analyzing the situation, putting the blame on voters themselves instead of seeing the “real” picture…
    The author’s premise that voters soured on Trump is just dead wrong. The author is living in fantasyland if he believes that fraud is inconsequential and that the populace “turned” on Trump.
    All one has to do is look at the Trump rallies versus the Biden rallies. Trump supporters braved bad weather, storms, and other difficulties to get to Trump rallies. Even vindictive democRAT governors who imposed harsh unrealistic limits on the numbers allowed to enter facilities (using the fake covid as an”excuse”) could not keep the massive numbers of Trump supporters from these events.
    Fraud is the major reason for the difficulties in this election…

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  61. It’s fake, like every mainstream media story.

    I don’t believe the mainstream news story that Trump lost the white vote, ESPECIALLY blue-collar. I guess I have to leave room that it may be true, but the election fraud is most likely way deeper than the 20 or so obviously blatant things we know about…who knows, maybe Trump got 75M or 80M and Biden only got 70M or 65M votes…we need to provide room that could be true also.

    And how does an exit poll determine white vs blue vs green vs whatever collar? Do they actually ask “Are you a white collar worker or blue collar worker”? Do they assume based on income level? Don’t a lot of blue collar workers make more money than a lot of white collar workers? And if so many polls were wrong/fake this year, why would exit polls or any other predictive means be any different?

    The Saturday before the election, Trump had a rally in Western PA, basically Ground Zero of white blue collar male voter, and 57,000 (57,000!!) people showed up….while Biden was getting about 15 people at his PA rallies…

    Conservatives and traditionalists don’t believe their guy has to be a messiah, that is, perfect…while Trump could have done much more, he did do much more than any other recent president on tax cuts (BIG TIME), immigration, border wall, foreign trade agreements, etc., etc. It makes no sense to me somebody who voted for him in 2016 would give their vote to Biden instead, a senile permanent No. 2 with THE LOSER (first to drop out) of the Democrat presidential primary. With Biden having basically negative enthusiasm among his base, it’s really hard to believe the larger white voter turnout showed up for him.

    I think this meme is fake.

  62. Why Trump lost in one sentence:

    Surrounded by a sea of 50,000 White faces at multiple rallies, Trump boasts about “record low black unemployment.”

    Be of good cheer! We were never going to vote (or supreme court) our way out of this.

    • Agree: HeebHunter
    • Replies: @HeebHunter
  63. @JohnPlywood

    “You people”?? Don’t make assumptions about me, please. I’m not even American. I’m commenting from Britain and in any event, I come within none of the categories you mentioned.

    You have simply misunderstood my comment or my commenting angle (as I suspect is a habit of yours).

  64. anon[260] • Disclaimer says:
    @Double D

    Looks like he is simply putting forth what is the conventional narrative without necessairly endorsing it.

    That simply makes him a useful idiot.

    So either we’re reading an article by a useful-idiot, or, we are reading yet another corporate/state sponsored pen. Logic indicates we should not read or comment on useful-idiots or corporate/state sponsored pens. Time to put an end to this sham called “alternative” press.

  65. This article is a perfect example of arguing minutiae while not seeing DaFreakingForest.
    In 2016 – 127 million were cast for president – total.
    2020 – we’re up to 150 million – and still counting.
    Trump received 10 million more than in 2016 – while Biden broke the all time record.
    We’re asked to believe that a cardboard cutout got record breaking votes without some ‘assistance’ from DaUsualSuspects!
    Are you serious?
    Computerized vote rigging is as old as computers -http://crushlimbraw.blogspot.com/2020/11/beyond-shameful-why-it-all-developed.html?m=0 – those who understood computer systems were salivating to get started decades ago. Gary North documents it – it’s been going on for DECADES!
    Just because we’re too ignorant and stupid to understand how easy it is doesn’t mean it ain’t happening. Read it yourself – paralysis by analysis is useless if you can’t see DaBigPicture!

  66. Ugetit says:

    Trump got Thumped!

    Yes, indeed. He also got trumped because he wasn’t a true trump, but a tramp. One positive out of all of this is that he seems to have last a lot of the pomp in his prance.

    Neither one or the other is sufficiently worthy to lick the floors of an outhouse.

  67. polistra says:

    You don’t need all the details and polls.

    Trump broke all his promises. That’s all. He NEVER did anything contrary to Deepstate. He ran the country according to Hillary’s orders.

    The only quantifiable difference is that Trump didn’t start any new full-scale wars, while previous presidents had started one war per year.

    • Agree: HeebHunter
    • Replies: @HeebHunter
  68. sally says:
    @RoatanBill

    the losers in this election were the American people.. The international global oligarchs succeeded in their wildest dreams with dividing the nation so that a few votes by a small group could be used to determine the outcome.

    Nine guys on an Island appoint one of their own to be the leader, the leader raises the issue of leaving the island, 4 are for leaving four are against, the leaders vote determines leave or stay.

    Trump had a land slide if only he had done what he promised those who voted for him in the 2016 election it was the lies that turned the white voter middle classes to the alternative..

    White Americans have always punished the liar..White middle class Americans are not accustomed to forgiving criminal fraud, they do not condone killing foreign generals on mercy missions in foreign nations (no matter the persons crimes), they do not all agree Israel is better than or more important than America. and nearly none of the middle white class agreed to give wall street 50 trillion.. in cash, credit and supplies, and most certainly white working middle class Americans would never have agreed for the USA to support the economic competition Americans face daily in competitive place America from Israel and Oil rich Saudi Arabia and nearly no White Americans thought it was a good idea to support the theft of oil from Syria, or Bomb Yemen into pre historic times, nearly everyone was appalled with HRC announced we came, we saw, and we conquered.. and I believe Trump forgot that.

    I don’t know an American that thinks the Iranians are bad people.. I know only a few who have ever met an Iranian. so why would America think it was a good idea for the USA to chase the Iranians?

    The middle class may be the cause of the close race, had Trump not offended the middle white classes he would have had a landslide. .

    • Agree: Ugetit, HeebHunter
    • Replies: @RoatanBill
    , @HeebHunter
  69. Poco says:
    @AReply

    Piss on everything the ADL says. Krauthammer?! Buckley?! Salon?! Washington Post?!! Way to discredit yourself.

  70. KenR says:

    All of this type of analysis depends upon having accurate exit polls and voter data.

    How can you trust either today? I do not.

    This election was fraudulent IMHO. There is no way that Crazy Uncle Joe got more votes for president than The One in 2008. Just for starters. To accept this election result you have to accept a very large pile of improbabilities, and also throw away everything that you understand about human nature.

    I take it that any analysis of voting patterns taken from this dataset is fundamentally compromised.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan, Emslander
  71. Truth says:

    Hey Guys, your “next president” is a little more unhinged, even, than this one…

  72. If not for the absolute catastrophic performance of the democratic leadership over the last four years, I might by this article. But against the failures of two coup attempts (Russia and the Ukraine I view as two impeachments in one), the revelations of corruption by the democrats as far as our failed attempt determine politic in the Ukraine that yielded so much unneeded bloodshed, the less than lackluster performance by all of the democratic candidates to provide any useful policies and the icing on the cake the unrest —

    Slim to none way on the Earth the democrats win.

    ——————-

    As for the constant whining about color by the usual suspects — it’s as if they don’t read their own articles of complaint — the dynamics have changed, appealing to color just doesn’t have the force it once had, in fact, if one is paying attention — it appears to have backfired. And given that the president was painted as “racist” these appeals play tight into the oppositions hands. Not only has the color demographic changed. The youth demographic has shifted leftward.

    Furthermore, unlike the past, the US population is exposed to numerous images of blacks who dress like them, speak like them, express the same fears and woes —

    And I have bit my tongue on this matter for quite some time. But the breakthrough moment in color dynamics

    1990 The Civil War Series. Millions and millions of US citizens exposed o US history in terms and depth never before experienced. That series by Ken Burns and his staff changed the landscape of who we understood ourselves to be in ways never addressed. That year, US history came out of the closet as did her historians. The advent of the internet has taken information out of the established gatekeepers providing an array of hidddens about our history and sadly one of the hiddens has been slavery and its aftermath — as mechanism used almost exclusively against blacks.

    The consequence of that socialization long played as football for elections has impacted the nation in ways one could have easily predicted.

    I deeply deeply appreciate the breadth, scope and depth that Mr. Pat Buchanan brings to any issue. So I have never understood his near blindsidedness when it came to color politics and it’s longevity. He knew well, that most blacks were not criminals, and were deeply loyal to the US as the US understood in the Constitution. He knew that in 1960 blacks addressing civil rights were talking about fairness to the basics

    right to vote
    right to work
    right to equal protection under the law
    right to educational services

    which had nothing to do with

    homosexual conduct, muchless marriage
    bra burning and other feminists fantasies
    nothing to do with war protests
    ending prayer in school
    no fault divorce or killing children in the womb.

    and yet he has been party to some most short sighted to get the vote practices. It has always been an enigma to me. And that pushed the fifty percent of the black vote into the hands – the dangerous hands of the democratic party.

    But what I find more interesting is that the list above who lay claim to the only way to win is to hold up a sign

    “me white vote for me”

    advocates is that they apparently think white men are are stupid. And more interesting still, few candidates earned their white bonafides more openly that the current president and against the backdrop of his opponents — the notion that whites needed a sign

    is just bizarre.

  73. @RedpilledAF

    There is indeed a difference between a yawn and a (((yawn))).

  74. @botazefa

    Biden got more votes than there are registered voters.

    Biden’s numbers are IMPOSSIBLE.

    That’s all the proof you need.

    What a bunch of shabbos goy whackos.

    • Agree: anarchyst
  75. @botazefa

    None of us commenting here have the means to prove massive voter fraud. That is up to Trump’s legal team to prove it in court (assuming any courts will listen), hopefully with a little help from the Justice Dept. (Forget about the FBI helping). We can only read as much as we can about it, and draw our own conclusions. Trump hasn’t helped his cause much by adopting Biden’s basement strategy.

    Putting poor Rudy front and center at their press conference yesterday sure didn’t help the cause much. When I turned it on I thought he was bleeding from his temples, only to find out that his hair dye was melting as his head was covered with sweat. The leftist late night talk show hosts had a field day at Rudy’s expense last night. The other attorneys present should have taken away his mic before he did more damage. Sidney Powell and Jenna Ellis were much more composed and professional and deserved to be listened to. But all most people could think about was Rudy’s bizarre performance.

    I knew for sure that Fox has jumped the shark while watching Tucker Carlson last night. He said he wanted to get Ms. Powell on his show, but she had to provide him with proof of voter fraud first, and that she was unable to do so. Since when has absolute proof been the standard for guests on those shows? Most only have educated opinions. Tucker could have brought Sidney on and challenged her to provide proof. He was just making excuses. Maybe his bosses wouldn’t let him bring her on. Meanwhile, over at FBN, Maria Bartiromo and Lou Dobbs have both had Ms. Powell on their shows. Why them, and not you Tucker?

  76. Jared’s strategy was “right” for Jared…..

  77. @sally

    I agree with your assessment.

    Fraud in the (s)election process has to be considered and I believe it’s massive. Trump managed to get many people excited enough to attend his rallies. Biden stayed in his basement most of the time and when he did pop out almost no one showed up to listen to him. That is my primary reason for thinking that a huge portion of the votes cast for Biden are fraudulent. The disparity between the enthusiasm for the candidates is just too great to account for the close vote totals reported.

    Trump caved in on Hillary almost immediately after he was sworn in. He made no attempt to go after her. Had he done that one thing, he could have kept one promise and probably dismantled a portion of the machine that caused him his current situation. When people get exposed and go to prison, the lower level hangers on have to decide if they want to follow them and ruin their lives. Proper prosecution early on could have decapitated the leadership of the plot that made him a completely ineffective president. I never thought he was going to amount to much after I saw who he started to hire for key positions.

  78. anonymous[143] • Disclaimer says:

    I believe much of the analysis of Trump’s policy failures were on point and did cause him to lose a lot of enthusiasm from his 2016 voting base. His failure to curb H1b and OPT for instance upset many in his college educated base. Per Breitbart, last year alone, 535,000 foreign students were permitted to work in the US under the OPT/CPT program created by Obama, against a background of 800,000 US grads looking for jobs. He had four years to end that but he didn’t, too eager to please Big Tech thanks to Jared Kushner. And we are still waiting for that EO to deny birthright citizenship to illegals and tourists.

    Instead, he spent four years pandering to Jews, blacks, Big Tech(H1B, threat against Macron for wanting to tax Google), and trying to win over msm, and these became the main forces against him in 2020.

    However, I also believe that a massive fraud took place in 2020 and that Trump legitimately won the election, perhaps even by a landslide as he claimed, because the silent majority simply does not have a choice. I believe the silent majority are patriotic and want to see an end to endless wars and endless immigration. Even if Trump didn’t do enough to curb both, he also didn’t start a war and didn’t make immigration worse. But we know Biden is sure to make it a lot worse.

    The voter turn out is far too high to be believable, for example in the 19 townships in Wayne County, MI, where turnout equal 101% to 350% of eligible voters. The media blackout in refusing to cover the allegations while continuing to claim “no evidence”, “conspiracy theory”, and Big Tech’s censorship of any mention of fraud is very telling. The conspiracy here is not the claim of fraud but the cover up. Where there’s smoke there’s usually fire. I am not happy with Trump’s performance as POTUS, he could’ve done far better, but I believe he won this election and was cheated out of it. This needs to be thoroughly investigated or the GOP will never win another election again, including the two upcoming runoffs in GA.

  79. @follyofwar

    Of course Carlson’s bosses wouldn’t let Ms. Powel on. The combination of Tuckers sharp questions along with Ms. Powell’s proof of the vast corruption is something his bosses did not want to risk. Tucker has already done enough damage to the swamp. Understand something. Fox News, is ultimately controlled opposition. Chris Wallace, a democrat, is one of its main reporters. LOL It is a news agency created to make things look like news in the U.S. is fair and balanced, where in reality, all of those elements on the political left, conquered the U.S. long ago. That is, all of the big Institutions that matter, have been in leftist hands for years and years. This and only this is why the U.S. cannot make any progress except that progress that “progressives” want it to make and is why we are in the mess we are in today. Trump and his supporters, were fighting humungous forces of corruption at the highest level from the day he decided to wade into the D.C. swamp. Everyone, with eyes and ears to see and hear clearly knew this from the start. Those forces of corruption could not have made it clearer that they were going after this populist president, from the first day he took office, even before that, in fact. It was not Trumps supporters who are sheep, it is Biden, Hillary’s, Obama’s, Bush’s, supporters that are and were sheep. In other words, everyone that fails to see that these people supported by the big corrupt establishment media, ARE THE SWAMP.

    • Agree: Emslander
  80. @Hans

    Spot on. He did not lose support, he got more votes than in 2016. We may never know how many more, if those doing the rigging were at least halfway competent at their craft.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  81. Drew says:
    @GreatSocialist

    What’s truly weird is how most Americans don’t really want to bring back manufacturing. Between environmental degradation, ill health, and chronic pain, factories are just unpleasant things to have around. While the material abundance is nice, it’s even nicer when other countries poison their people and lands for you.

    • LOL: follyofwar
    • Replies: @frontier
    , @Americus
  82. It is the corruption. It is literally impossible to Make America Great Again and adamantly refuse ro prosecute diabolically corrupt individuals, particularly when they have had decades of corruption and high crimes on their records. The corrupt psychopath class is robbing average Americans blind, including white men without college degrees. Just a couple examples of this is Bank of America and Wells Fargo whose executives have never been held accountable for their crime spree on their customers, including white men without college degrees. The college educated psychopathic corporate class is literally robbing Americans blind to the point of falsely imprisoning them in their homes, holding them hostage, and bankrupting them. There are also many white men without college degrees that own businesses, including bars and resaurants, and their wives may own hair salons, why the fuck would they want to vote for Trump that just sat back and did nothing to prevent states and municipalities from violating the 14th amendment, jack ass?! It’s not rocket science! It’s the common sense that you do not have, obviously!

    Andrea Iravani

  83. MEH 0910 says:

    In the end, it appears inarguable that Trump erred when he forsook the Sailer Strategy for the Kushner Strategy—or, as Takimag’s brilliant David Cole calls it, “The Failer Strategy.”

  84. @follyofwar

    I suspect that Trump has been advised to take a low profile because there are surely people who would like to take him out.

    I hate to say it but I think the Tuck has folded. He makes millions of dollars a year so that is a great motive to do whatever Paul Ryan tells him to do. If Tucker demanded “evidence” from Sidney he must be a fool. If she’s going to court why should she show her hand prematurely?

    The saddest thing is Rudy asking the FBI for help! WTF? The FBI is filled with communist traitors who’ve worked on the five year coup against Trump…..why would they help him now?

    The entire system is total shit. If you followed Obamagate you know that the intelligence agencies, the military brass, most of the federal government is against Trump as well as the media and academia.

    So we will probably wind up with a demented child sniffing war mongering old coot that is owned by the hostile elite.

    Happy days.

    • Agree: CelestiaQuesta
  85. The right to ear arms to defend against evil at home and abroad

    should sort it once and For ALL
    Still the President, Trump gained 10 million extra votes not counting those blatantly
    slolen from him on the night

    Its time for you to beam youself up Scotty or

    do you want the president erect baden to do it for ewe

  86. Emslander says:

    “Failer Strategy”, indeed!

    It’s a symptom of our national proclivity of calling everything sex that isn’t sex, like perversion and contraceptive behavior. The most recent three generations of American men are afraid to have real sex with real women, with the constant potential for procreation. Older generations of American men had better sex, lots of children and were incentivized thereby to fight for their rights as men!

    Trump became famous for being a New York Jack Off. How are you going to have a President with that upbringing and fame who doesn’t turn out to be a President Jack Off? Even now, he’s afraid to actually fight for the election he probably won. It’s all just right wing porn and populist porn. None of these people are grown-ups. I doubt that there are any grown up men on either of our coasts.

  87. The last twelve years (8 under O) have seen relentless attacks against white America. Trump and the Deplorables have been smeared with bs propaganda from every branch of the communist left.
    The last four years was never about Trump, it was about the reawakening of Americana, while white culture and history were all being destroyed by anti-white technopolies and their monopolistic brethren to undermine, demean and destroy white pride by claiming whites are racist.
    There can be no compromise anymore, we are at war and only the victorious will decide America and the worlds future.

  88. Nancy says:

    As someone who followed Bev Harris and the IT voting fraud from 2000 on (even 1988, if you check out Sununu’s record), passing out flyers (and dismayed at the non-response), speaking up at Rep’s Townhalls, checking out Greg Palast, Brad Blog, Verified Voting, etc…. it’s obvious that both sides are cheating. And a close race is the easiest to shift. Clearly it is being done by a ‘network’ (see Quigley – or Joe Plummer’s summar – free online) that is above both parties. My usual inquiry…’would they, if they could?’
    sign

    I think all this ‘it’s the mail-ins, signatures, ID requirements, etc, etc hysteria’ is just noise to muddy the waters. I still can’t forgive the LWV for pushing the HAVA which opened the gates to computerized voting….. oh, the stories from 20+ yrs ago! (We have no memory)

    (BTW, I think it is also how Trump won in ’16, but also with voter registration rolls scrubbing… ala FL 2000… and then same crew moved on to the subsequent Mexican election.)

  89. MarkinLA says:
    @anarchyst

    It depends on what you mean by fraud. The biggest problem for Trump was that the Covid nonsense made it possible for the Democrats to get out the profoundly stupid and ignorant vote – people who normally don’t bother to vote. I bet Biden got 90% of that vote.

    Ballot harvesting and vote by mail brought those normally lazy votes in and there may be no way to prove fraud. If there was actual fraud like ballot stuffing it is much more easily hidden by all the stupid votes. How do you catch a ballot harvester who fills out voters ballots for them at their house and gets them to sign it. How do you catch him when he throws Trump ballots out? Do you think the disinterested voter is going to check to see if his vote was counted? He only voted to get rid of the ballot harvester.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
    , @Hacienda
  90. @Pincher Martin

    “those are my three reasons for why Trump lost this election.”

    You left out the ignorance, bad judgement, emotional immaturity and complacency of the average American voter.

    • Replies: @Pincher Martin
  91. @follyofwar

    The Tuckers, Graham’s and McConnell’s all want to keep their gig under a Ghost Obama Administration. The Trump shitshow is coming to an end, and all they can do is try and justify their relevance in post globalist world run by technopolies given UN god like powers.
    Trumps problem was having his daughter and her chosenite hubby dictate policy, and appointing previous deepstate swamp creatures that undermined the MAGA movement.
    It was a good 4 years show, and now we get to watch ‘Clown World’ for all eternity.

  92. He should have ordered live fire at the “peaceful protesters” besieging the Portland courthouse whilst blinding officers with lasers and throwing deadly explosives at them. this would have put an IMMEDIATE stop to the antifa bs that continues to make him look like a pussy.

  93. Rich says:
    @JohnPlywood

    All of the Russian influence stories have been proven false. Every single one. For crying out loud, how much influence do you think Russia has on the US? Over 70 million people voted for Trump, are they all morons? Even if Biden pulls it off, he barely squeaked by, with no actual mandate.

    • Agree: Jay Fink
    • Replies: @JohnPlywood
    , @Jay Fink
  94. TimL34 says:

    I was an avid Trump supporter in 2016, but it became apparent that he was just another self-serving hack when he failed to deliver on much of his promises. The truth of the matter is the man is a grade-A narcissist and only cares about himself. I understand that is a hard pill to swallow for many of his supporters who Trump very likely believes are suckers to his con, but it is what it is.

  95. Anonymous[575] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    I think the mainstream media got into the heads of white men supporting Trump, not all of them flipped, but enough did to lose Trump the election. They were so affected by being called vile racists they were dissuaded from voting for Trump, and now are doubtless exhibiting cognitive dissonance about exactly why they helped elect Biden.

    I don’t think this is true.

    Trump dropped a lot of the talk and messaging that he used in 2016, specifically about immigration, the Wall, etc. This is probably partly why he did better with Hispanics this time.

    Trump has spent much of the past 2 years talking about how much he is doing for blacks with the Platinum Plan and dealing with black incarceration rates. At the same time, he reduced much of his overt anti-immigration messaging that made him popular 4 years ago.

    This seems like a more likely explanation for any loss of support from white men.

  96. @Rich

    Well, the CIA disagrees with you, Rich. They found credible information of hacking and exposing DNC-related material, which swayed the election. I believe the CIA, and think there is no reason to believe they would make this up or try to jeopardize Trump. Do you?

    • Replies: @GeneralRipper
  97. Voltara says:

    The reason Trump lost votes from the white working class is because these precincts were most subject to vote fraud with harvested ballots and the Dominion machines flipping votes to Biden.

  98. The analysis left out Ross Perot who showed that Poujadism could work but needed a bigger vehicle.

  99. Treg says:

    To my way of thinking and voting, the 2016 and 2020 Trump wins are vindications of 4 people: RONALD REAGAN, ROSS PEROT, PAT BUCHANAN, & RON PAUL.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  100. TamJam says:

    “Fraud is certainly one possibility” –

    You could have started and ended the article right there. Trump won electoral college comfortably. The counting algorithms systematically siphoned votes from Trump to Biden at strongly republican precincts of swing states, which creates the illusion of Trump losing some support among working class white voters.

    1) Trump won 18/19 bellweather counties and lost
    2) Trump under-performed down ticket republican caniddates significantly
    3) And that under-performance is proportional to how strongly republican a precinct is, which makes no sense given Trump polls 90%+ consistently among republicans
    4) An incumbent president got 10M more votes and lost
    5) Biden got 10M more votes than Obama with no campaign and no base to speak of but a proven track record of corruption and deep state ties
    6) Absurd turnout and out-voting percentages specifically in targeted swing state counties
    7) Synchronous pause in counting after midnight at crucial swing state big cities
    8) Abnormal ballot dumping and spike up of Biden share of votes after those dumps after midnight, in all crucial swing states
    9) The cities in question – Atlanta, Detroit, Philadelphia, Milwaukee, Las Vegas – and their glorious history in voter fraud
    10) Dominion / Smartmatic’s deep web of connections with deep state operators

    Ignore all of the above?

    • Replies: @GeneralRipper
  101. anon[927] • Disclaimer says:

    I think people voted for Trump in 2016 because they believed in his campaign pledges, which were to end the foreign wars, bring back the troops, make our “allies” shoulder the cost of military protection, cut immigration drastically, and seek fair trade rather than free trade. He delivered on some of these better than others, however, most of us could see what he had to endure the past four years, with the bogus Russia investigation that dragged on for nearly 4 years, tawdry porn star allegations, bogus tax investigations, constant media attacks, and most of all the baseless Ukraine charges and impeachment; there had been numerous assassination attempts on him, and his businesses even suffered.

    These personal attacks on Trump by deep state turned him into a martyr, a symbol of the anti-establishment. His criticism of Democrat mayors of cities that suffered large scale violent protests, his EO banning critical race theory for government offices also won him a lot of fans. As such, many more turned out to vote for him in 2020 despite all his personality flaws (megalomania) and policy flaws (healthcare, immigration), because they are outraged by the left’s brazen corruption and lawlessness. I believe many also think he will do better if given a second term.

    Based on the evidence presented, I believe widespread fraud occurred and this election was stolen from him. I would hold off making any kind of judgement on whose votes he lost/won until we have real results. This analysis is not based on real numbers.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
  102. He lost because the demographics are all Democrat now. Georgia. It is now a purple state. It has a huge Latino population that came after the 1996 Olympics and stayed. And this seeded the immigration from Central America that continued. Now the children of the illegals who came then are voting age and here you go… Purple state. This happened in Virginia 2008…. Used to elect Republicans usually and now it is not even a purple state. There are latinos in Virginia in places there never were before… the politically active ones though are in Nova where the highest concentration of people reside.

    Contrary to the thoughts of the owner of this website… latinos who immigrated since the waves began in the 1980s are NOT natural conservatives.. Unz is gazing at Mexicans in California who lived there for generations… Latinos in Virginia and Georgia … also North Carolina lived here since the 80s.. and now those states are turned.

    Well it is what it is… Demographics are destiny and probably ruin too…

  103. Jay Fink says:
    @Rich

    Trump’s policies and governing were just OK to me. I had no excitement voting for him this time like I did in 2012. The #1 reason I voted for him again is how disgusted I was at the
    “Russia Russia Russia” thing.

  104. @JohnPlywood

    Well, the CIA disagrees with you, Rich. They found credible information of hacking and exposing DNC-related material, which swayed the election. I believe the CIA, and think there is no reason to believe they would make this up or try to jeopardize Trump. Do you?

    This post has an almost surreal quality to it.

    Nevertheless it should be saved and gold framed, IMO.

    Every once in a great while, filthy, treasonous Leftist cocksuckers ( like you ) actually let the mask slip and speak their “mind”.

    When they do, it’s very revealing.

    • Agree: Rich, epochehusserl
  105. @TamJam

    Excellent summation.

    Thank you.

  106. R2b says:

    Bidén won!
    And Trump will jab you!
    Seems to me, you are missing a third alternative.
    Did people really wote for these guys?
    And remember Rudy911Giuliani.
    Lets hope folks out there are more vigilant, than some of you here.

  107. frontier says:
    @Drew

    What’s truly weird is how most Americans don’t really want to bring back manufacturing.

    I’m not sure that’s true, but if it was, it’d be a classic case of Beware what you wish for! Without industry, all other bad things “most Americans don’t really want” … would have to be accepted. Because the only other option which isn’t totally destructive, is wars and dying in faraway lands for the maintenance of the Glorious Deficit Ponzi ™. Ooops, I misspoke, that’s also “totally destructive” in an ultimate, nuclear kind of way.

    Between environmental degradation, ill health, and chronic pain, factories are just unpleasant things to have around.

    We have plenty of that now, plus covids, lockdowns, supply shortages, ample supply of fentanyl, suicides, crime, selective law enforcement, riots, looting and destruction of property, family destruction, unchecked immigration, fake media, fake elections, dysfunctional healthcare, runaway redistribution, censorship and speech suppression by runaway monopolies… and let’s not forget near 200 TRILLION of gov debt and unfunded liabilities – pretty much due to the lack of industry and lopsided industrial policies. Is all that “pleasant to have around”?

  108. hotrod31 says:
    @RadicalCenter

    I couldn’t agree with you more.

    However, isn’t the very point of the ‘cultivated-confusion’ to compound [the] hysteria and disaffection – the better to stymie the convergence of the Eureka moment? All engineered so that the architects of the discord can make off with the bacon, viz. predetermined ‘solution’. PRS strikes again!

  109. Sean says:
    @JohnPlywood

    White males, having escaped the massacre of job losses suffered by minorities, which drew them to Trump in 2020 in the first place, abandoned him

    White men escaped, yeah … into their graves!

    Starting in 1998, a rise in deaths of despair has resulted in an unexpected increase in the number of middle-aged white Americans dying (the age-specific mortality rate). … The number of deaths of despair in the United States has been estimated at 150,000 per year in 2017.

    Opioids were a big part of that. Fentanyl comes from China, where it is as is as closely regulated as the manufacturing of cement. They were ignoring request to stop the trade. One call to a Chinese pharmaceutical outlet in China could get you it delivered to you, https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/01/world/asia/china-fentanyl-crackdown.html”>often through UPS

    China completely ignored demands that they institute controls and licencing. Then came Trump, and there is now no longer such open supply; since late 2019 if the call is from an American number they will claim not to sell Fentanyl. George Floyd had had Covid, and Fentanyl was in his system. Wuhan is where Fentanyl is made, and of course Covid came from there too.

    Then, Trump revealed what an incompetent bloviating fucktard he is by mismanaging the COVID-19 pandemic worse than the third world

    It was generally thought that the new disease would be like SARS in 2003: easily contained in China. However, a serious mistake on the part of Trump was to assume and speak as if China instead of America was going to save the world. I think it is being forgotten that China imposed tariffs on products from areas that were strongly for Trump. If, in January 2020, when it seemed re election of Trump and him returning with a mandate to clip China’s wings by all means necessary was a matter of months away, Xi dealing with the Covid crisis perceived that properly handled the international dimension of it offered a way to make Trump look like “an incompetent bloviating fucktard” what would he have done?

    WHILE Chinese authorities limited domestic flights from Wuhan to other Chinese cities like Beijing and Shanghai in an effort to contain the outbreak in January, it urged international carriers to maintain their flying schedules. […] While China continued to protest against international travel bans it successfully quarantined Wuhan and other affected cities. The total domestic lockdown of Hubei province and the flight ban imposed inside China had immediate effect.

    The only reason Trump got elected is because he wasn’t facing Obama. There are also very real concerns (supported by the CIA) that Russian interference swung the election in Trump’s favor. No support from Russia = no Trump in the white house.

    Because Bush had caused the 2008 financial crisis Obama’s real opposition was Hillary and then was up against McCain, who was not even willing to try (suspended his campaign). Trump was facing Hillary and so was Obama; difficult to say who would have won if they had been up against each other in a level playing field election.

    No support from Russia = no Trump in the white house.

    Russia is a joke country second only to France. The Russians lost the Cold War, and are reduced to selling energy to China on pipelines the Chinese have to build into remote regions of their country because Russians lack work discipline and doubt their own ability to meet deadlines on challenging projects. The head of the Russian troll farm is a former gangster-pimp who has done serious prison time; its like saying Sammy the Bull put Putin in power in Russia to say the laughable online efforts had any effect. The GRU tried to stop Hillary becoming President and supplied the DNC emails through Assange, but when all is said and done Hillary has twice proved to be a weak candidate pounced on and passed over for men who were unqualified to become president. Trump had one term, we will never know if he could have been a great President, but Obama’s achievements in two term–with an economic bounce-back from 2008–pale before those of Trump, who reconciled the Arab world to Israel.

    I think Trump’s wealth, personal attributes in communication honed in decades of reality TV celebrity, make him a complete anomaly, and like Muhammad Ali who dominated boxing while doing it ‘wrong’, there will never be another one like him. Without another Trump, immigration cannot be reduced. It’s tragic because he came so close and if he had won a second term the establishment resistance to him would have collapse in much the same way that Roosevelt’s opponents bowed to the people’s will after he was re elected, this rather than his threat to pack the Supreme Court ended legalist opposition to the New Deal.

    Naive of Trump to trust that once the pandemic started the substantially foreign higher technical and professional class including civil servants at the FDA were not going to be using Covid to overthrow him by delaying good news about vaccines. Ethical treatment of mammals be they pangolins or people such as the Uighur turns out to be the best policy, but crazy rich Asians don’t think so. China is a totalitarian state, and can beat the virus they create without vaccines.

    They are going to beat the West now, which was always on the cards since 1947 when the CCP convinced hapless US opinion makers that China under the communists was going to converge with American democracy. and so were allowed to triumph in 1949. Then the Korean war started and the Chinese attacked America forces in Korea and thrashed them despite lacking heavy weapons, only being stopped by massive bombardments. In the very similar Vietnam war the Chinese proxy force dove America out, and even extracted massive concessions (access to Western capital and technology) from America as the price it being allowed to disengage from Vietnam.

    The key failure was President Lyndon B. Johnson’s (the only Democratic president to take the white vote from the Republicans). Had Johnson did what white men voted for him to do and fight to win he would have called out the the reserves and decaired full military mobilization for a victory over communism in Vietnam, and Nixon would not have let the thin end of the Chinese wedge into the European dominated world system. But he did, and since then the CCP has had it all its own way geopolitically. Trump came to power when the die was cast, the odds of him turning around were always long. He will come to be seen as just a blip, the final convulsion of a country before a senescent president led it into second rate status.

    • Agree: Americus
  110. Anon[267] • Disclaimer says:
    @botazefa

    Guess you must be one of the dead voters. How many times did you vote for Biden?

  111. @Joseph Doaks

    Those are consistent no matter who is elected.

  112. @Scut Farkus

    Most Trump voters voted at the polls on election day. Assuming that part of the vote is legit, Mr. Olmstead is right when he demonstrates that Trump did indeed lose a bit of the white working class vote. The fact that he received more votes than in 2016 is because more people overall voted this year.

    Yes, tens of thousands of working class whites dominated his many rallies. But, what did they hear, over and over? Trump bragging about how his policies led to the lowest black, Hispanic, female, and gay unemployment in history. (That was before the Covid hoax destroyed the economy – another thing Trump didn’t handle well.) But there was never a shout out to White males, and I’m sure that some resented it enough to either switch their votes to Biden/Harris or not vote at all. No one likes being taken for granted.

    Trump was a chump in the campaign to put so must trust in the opinions of his creepy looking liberal Jewish SIL No matter though, I believe the fix was in for Biden no matter how many votes Trump got. But I wonder if even his Supreme Court has the backbone to overturn the election.

  113. Whitewolf says:
    @GreatSocialist

    Trump failed because he was basically a conman and criminal who believed in nothing except in worshipping his own ass. He had no deepset or heartfelt ideology, but simply developed certain fake popular riffs from imitating other real patriots or real white nationalists.

    All that you say about Trump is true but he still won the election. Or at least got the most legal votes probably by record margins as well.

    What people should be asking themselves is why the democrats put forward such a crap and unpopular candidate and why the fraud was so blatant. On top of that the bias by the gaslighting media and big tech companies was extreme. It’s like someone wanted maximum tension and division even to the point of discrediting the entire US election process forever.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  114. anonymous[271] • Disclaimer says:

    All that changed with a virus that has killed nearly 250,000 Americans, terrified millions more and driven the economy over a cliff.

    I’m so grateful for the corona hoax. It’s really separated the wheat from the chaff. The funniest bit is how many race realists got sucked in… because SCIENCE!1!

  115. @Supply and Demand

    You figure your excretion constitutes adult behaviour in the form of a reasoned argument based on data, do you?

  116. @AndrewR

    The numbers certainly do not speak for themselves. NYC hospitals were putting people in tents and disrupting customary treatment in 2017-18. And although it was apparently an extreme scenario, it was not unprecedented in the modern era.
    “The 2017-2018 influenza epidemic is sending people to hospitals and urgent-care centers in every state, and medical centers are responding with extraordinary measures: asking staff to work overtime, setting up triage tents, restricting friends and family visits and canceling elective surgeries, to name a few.

    “We are pretty much at capacity, and the volume is certainly different from previous flu seasons,” says Dr. Alfred Tallia, professor and chair of family medicine at the Robert Wood Johnson Medical Center in New Brunswick, New Jersey. “I’ve been in practice for 30 years, and it’s been a good 15 or 20 years since I’ve seen a flu-related illness scenario like we’ve had this year.”
    https://time.com/5107984/hospitals-handling-burden-flu-patients/
    The mortality spikes in virtually every western jurisdiction coincided with the imposition of unprecednted measures to manage the bug. The hysterical and context-absent claims from Italy set the stage for the panic in New York. A perfect storm of corruption, incompetence, panic and a third-world health care system produced the mortality, not some disease that was categorically more dangerous than other infectious respiratory disease.

  117. anon[298] • Disclaimer says:

    This article is so gloriously hilariously stupid. Olmstead doing superduper graphic pseudo statistics on an election that CIA just stole with macroshitloads of ballot stuffing. Next you should analyze why Randy Savage lost his WWE championship. Or why Amy Nishimura had such mixed success playing the slots.

  118. Why Trump Lost Ground with the White Working Class?

    Cucked churches.

  119. anarchyst says:
    @MarkinLA

    I must respectfully disagree with your assertion that fraud cannot be proven.
    It is statistically impossible for counties to have over 100% voter totals. There are counties with 105% voter participation. If THAT doesn’t prove fraud, I don’t know what will…
    Regards,

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  120. SC Rebel says:

    Yes, NWO candidate 1 “steals” the election from NWO candidate 2. Ponder on that for a while.

    The system itself isn’t legitimate. It’s been rigged in favor of the elites. No matter which guy wins, they win.

    Trump was an actor, nothing more. He fooled white populists into thinking he could bring down the bad guys. That was the plan all along. The elites had to stamp out the rise in red pilling. Trump did his duty in putting the movement to sleep.

  121. @Sick of Orcs

    Looking at this comment section, I dont think there is any hope at all for huwhites.
    Look at how many of them are still in denial. Sure there was fraud, but Trumpyid did lose many votes also.

    But they just cant accept it, these supposed high IQ (lol) huwhites.

  122. @polistra

    Amerimutt “huwhites” have hedged their bet on the biggest, most worthless kike loving conman and are too ashamed to admit it. Just like ww2 and before.

    • Troll: GeneralRipper
  123. @sally

    You are wasting your thoughts on the decrepit State Departmeng coons here. Muttmerica as a huwhite nation is FINISHED.
    The only hope for them is multiple secessions and the dismantling of the great Satan.

  124. Anonymous[401] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tom Rogers

    >”Did Trump actually build the Southern Border Wall or make significant progress in that venture? No.”

    Agreed.

    > “Did he actually make significant progress on stopping Third World immigration to the United States? No”

    Agreed.

    >”Did Trump proscribe antifa and BLM? No.“

    Agreed.

    He should have championed the Proud Boys…the only group protecting his supporters. Don also should have arrested Soros for treason.

    >”I don’t personally take those movements seriously”

    Then you are naive.

    BLM got MILLIONS(!) of dollars post-George Floyd. It funneled that money to Biden, plus got major corporations to lick their jackboots.

    Antifa is also well-funded and well-organized, replete with strategists-PR-lawyers. It cost Berkeley, CA…just one city…$2,000,000 in damages. It attacks people and property wherever it goes, often abetted by BLM droogs and sympathetic liberal lawyers-DAs-judges. Did you really not see all the riots, looting, and arson this past year?

    >”I regard Facebook and Twitter as private entities”

    Again, you are naive.

    Unlike private media, social media giants are protected from libel suits by the FCC’s Section 230. However, that protection is based on them acting like “platforms,” not censoring anything legally permitted by the First Amendment. In fact, FB-YT-Twitter act like “publishers,” controlling-editing-censoring content, limiting what can be seen/read by proles. In short, Silicone Valley social giants…all left-wing…act like Goebbels’ Ministry of Propaganda.

    All that being said, methinks Trumpers took Don’s reelection for granted, believing tweets and rallies mattered. He focused on Israel, blacks, hispanics, women, Wall Street, and banksters. He ignored whites…especially white men. He also did bupkis per the opioid epidemic, male suicides, and so on.

    • Replies: @Tom Rogers
  125. anonymous[314] • Disclaimer says:

    Why Trump lost [ground blah blah blah]:

    Trump pissed CIA off.

    https://www.madcowprod.com/2020/11/15/short-history-election-fraud/

    And CIA used their ballot-stuffing cutouts to steal the election.

    Flynn showed his lawyer Sidney where to look. She’s gotta turn over CIA’s rocks real careful or a lone nut will get her. But CIA is fucked when it comes out.

  126. @HeebHunter

    Your comment is absurd.

    Look at Vince James’ analysis….he proves the case for massive election fraud.

    And Vince is a LOT smarter than you are.

    • Replies: @HeebHunter
  127. Is it not odd that Biden’s win is attributed to a group of people, white blue collar, which is fading in numbers??? How can that be that they voted in quantities that could elect Biden??? They decided to love his corrupt ass, a guy who has screwed American workers for decades???
    It points to the fact that the Democrats cheated massively to win. If you said that he won because of millenials, brainwashed for years, latinos, blacks, sexual deviants of all stripes, etc etc.. added to the normal baby boomer liberals, then okay… that is the demographics that they are shooting for…

    But working class whites, a dying category of people carried Dopey Joe??? Looks like vote harvesting worked…

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  128. Anonymous[391] • Disclaimer says:

    Blacks voting so much for Democrats is ruining this country for Whites.

    The Black vote is very bad. Clearly many of them wish to destroy Whites and take over America and make it into one big slum.

    Young Whites are increasingly on the Left. That is bad.

    Trump made a lot of mistakes but he was constantly on the defensive. But his personality was always a problem. He was never a true conservative. He did not have the intellectual background and gave in to Jews.

    Finally, we see from all the Black and Antifa riots that good American Whites are cowed by the Left.

    They will not confront the rioters. We saw that in DC this past weekend.

    White Christian nationalists need to grow a backbone and get control. This is a MUST.

  129. Americus says:
    @Drew

    factories are just unpleasant things to have around… nicer when other countries poison their people and lands for you.

    but when they pollute the air – we all breathe the same CO2

  130. “Blacks voting so much for Democrats is ruining this country for Whites.

    The Black vote is very bad. Clearly many of them wish to destroy Whites and take over America and make it into one big slum.”

    Blacks vote democratic because the Republican party opted for expediency over some level of truth regarding civil rights.
    Instead of acknowledging some simple truths

    such as wow it’s 1960 nearly 100 years after the Civil War and we only now addressing disqualifying tactics applied only to blacks in order to vote. There is no mystery here why blacks who did not always vote democratic did so by 1970. The Republican party washed its hands of Civil Rights and handed the matter over to democrats who peddled everything under the sun in the name of

    civil rights

    most of which republicans rightfully rejected — but by lumping it all as one, any black who considered their right to vote important and violations of that – plain as day — an issue were tainted by the nonsense peddled as civil rights.

    And here’s the great hat trick

    all of the complaints about Affirmative Action and blacks and it turns out most AA went to whites.

    The republican party has embraced something as peculiar as the log cabin republicans with more enthusiasm they have the black republicans or black conservatives.

    Observing these realities renders the white complaint a tad empty — a party that is more inclined to embrace same sex conduct over skin color of a people who similar values.

    One would think, an ounce of integrity would suggest some party inward thinking. But as long as whiteness remains a primary over principle —

    republicans will continue to look and smell like liberals and democrats. And you wonder why some whites sat this one out, if that is the case. I was reading a comment by a commenter named Reid on TAC

    “4) What DACA protections which is something minority communities like in Texas, Arizona and California.”

    That was the appeal to latinos DACA and I remember the response by those of us thinking about the US first,
    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/is-america-still-a-nation/

    it was not positive or neutral. And rest assured blacks in either party are not excited about more immigration, despite the comments by Congresswoman Maxine Waters and others in democratic leadership.

    —-

    I neglected to mention, despite the issues, I am convinced that the current executive and his running mate won this election in a walk.

  131. according to Fox/AP…

    Um…OK

    …Trump won 8% of blacks respectively

    They wouldn’t lie to conceal Blacks voting Trump, would they?

    How Biden’s ‘you ain’t black’ comment unfolded

  132. Because he didn’t lose, that’s why

  133. Sean says:
    @Tom Rogers

    The President has the executive power to draft a military and construction engineers and workers in the effort and to direct budgets towards it, and the United States could have had a Southern Border Wall across the entire Mexican border inside four years, or very significant progress towards such – had there been the political will on the part of the chief executive. He didn’t do it.

    The US Army officers tasked with executing the hit on Soleiman asked to see a written authorisation for the order. That would not have happened under Obama. General Milley point blank refused to have the army in on (not shooting, it was merely as assistance to the police which was done without question by the regular army for the OJ Simpson riots) quelling BLF riots, and as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Milley apologised for being photographed with Trump. Obama would have immediately required his resignation.

    I would not be so sure that the United States Army or any other government employee will just do anything the President (or 12th Amendment) says without reference to whether it is is first term president who didn’t win the most votes, and was seen as a loose cannon. Trump had to get re-elected to have the authority, the settled will of the people, for something like using the army on a project inside the US. Trump was rather like Gerald Ford (flagrantly disobeyed by James R. Schlesinger) in his weak authority over the government’s employees.

    If Trump had denounced Chancellorsville and the Proud Boys he might have been reelected and the legalist opposition would have evaporated just as it did for FDR in his second term. Then instead of phony decorations of an “Emergency” on the border, Trump could have had a sovereign’s ability to transcend the law in the name of order. His orders, which would be obeyed without question or comment.

  134. @Robert Dolan

    How has your supposed “intelligence” helped any of you but sending you toward defeat?
    You waste time playing their game instead of rebelling. Hell, you don’t even have principles anymore.

    You are just a bunch of actual loser nerds, while the jock elites take your country for a ride and fuck it raw.

    • Replies: @Stonehands
  135. @Anonymous

    Don’t call me naive. It’s not an argument and it is insulting, and I’m not a kid in your geography class at school. I’m an adult. You’re an adult. Please don’t talk down to me like that. I stopped reading your post as soon as you started with it. Please let’s address each other as peers.

    It’s not sensitivity, it’s just normal that I won’t take to people like you who can’t stick to argument and make assumptions and throw insults around. I’m only human. You don’t know me, and I didn’t expand and provide argument for why I hold those views. It’s open to you to ask me to explain, or you can just say you disagree and explain why. No problem.

    Please just stick to critiquing my views. Refrain from personal slights and attacks. Thank you.

  136. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    Finally, we see from all the Black and Antifa riots that good American Whites are cowed by the Left.

    They will not confront the rioters. We saw that in DC this past weekend.

    White Christian nationalists need to grow a backbone and get control. This is a MUST.

    Disagree completely. Nationalists are no more cowards than anyone else. But they are smart enough to realize this is not a fair fight. Their enemy is much deeper than the BLM crowd and Antifa. The US government has become their enemy and most intelligent nationalists have awakened to this disturbing reality.

    Defend yourself against BLM and ANTIFA? Easy to do if it was just them.

  137. Polistra says:
    @Anonymous

    That would have been a great idea, a few decades ago.

  138. KenH says:

    I can understand the anger of white males in the working and middle class at Trump’s shameless race pandering and promises of a “Platinum Plan” for a black race who deserves nothing but a one way ticket back to Africa. But I can’t fathom that of the ones that voted why some of them would vote for Biden instead. It’s not as if Biden won’t shovel all kinds of free stuff towards black people and grant them even more special privileges.

    Trump broke plenty of promises and was a disappointment overall but he at least loves America, doesn’t hate right of center white people was still the lesser of two evils in 2020.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  139. Hacienda says:
    @MarkinLA

    You’re a smart guy. How do you explain away the poll aggregate that had Biden up 7-8 points. And as updated counts indicate, turned out to be pretty accurate.

    The polls indicate there was no need for any fraud. That Trump outperformed the polls in nearly all the swing states. It’s more fishy that Trump outperformed than Biden underperformed. Given the enormous skill sets that whites clearly possess over blacks (including the ability to get away with deception) shouldn’t the Repub vote count be under suspicion? Not the other way around.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  140. @Rosie

    Only in America could people decide that the best way to punish a blowhard president is to give his job to a senile White guilter that couldn’t remember the name of our number one enemy.

    So far as we know, it was the only way. If you have some other ideas, please share with the class.

    Well for starters it was never a requirement to elect Biden in the primary but Democrats let the MSM talk them into it.

    The other half of the problem is that Fox News and tribal Trump voters never should have rallied around his response to the china cough. That in itself was a form of affirmation and reward. He should have been isolated until he changed his mind about downplaying the whole thing.

  141. @Anonymous

    Finally, we see from all the Black and Antifa riots that good American Whites are cowed by the Left.

    They will not confront the rioters. We saw that in DC this past weekend.

    What are you saying here? Whites from other states should go into DC and take a rock to the head to protect some local White liberal neighborhood? DC is a giant lie that doesn’t deserve protection. All our diversity loving politicians wouldn’t dare live there. If riots are deserved anywhere it is DC.

    White Christian nationalists need to grow a backbone and get control. This is a MUST.

    White Christian nationalists? There was a recent poll where 8/10 Christians think their churches need to work on fixing racial inequality and injustice.

    The problem is that most of the protestant churches have taken the view that race doesn’t exist. Thus as with liberals they are chasing their tails trying to fix nature.

    We are in big trouble if both the colleges and churches decide that race doesn’t exist and “bad Whites” are the problem (sports get an exemption though). White people will be getting guilt lectures in church and then off to college for a daily dose on how Whites dun ruined Africa. No questions allowed of course.

  142. @KenH

    I can understand the anger of white males in the working and middle class at Trump’s shameless race pandering and promises of a “Platinum Plan” for a black race who deserves nothing but a one way ticket back to Africa.

    I don’t think that was it at all. I think there is an underestimation of how many working class Whites depend on the ACA. Trump tried killing it off and never had a plan to fix or replace it.

    Trump broke plenty of promises and was a disappointment overall but he at least loves America, doesn’t hate right of center white people was still the lesser of two evils in 2020.

    It was indeed nice to have a president that actually loved the country and not from the blame America first cult or from the conservative globalist tribe that still thinks America can happen anywhere with the right tax cuts.

    Sad days but Democrats were destined to keep winning until White people drop the hocus pocus “race doesn’t exist” non-sense. Trump was just a break from the madness. A good break that we all needed.

  143. Corvinus says:
    @RoatanBill

    “Yes, fraud was systematically employed. The voting machines were engineered specifically to allow them to be hacked and their totals to be manipulated.”

    Speculation is not proof.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  144. Corvinus says:
    @Whitewolf

    “All that you say about Trump is true but he still won the election. Or at least got the most legal votes probably by record margins as well.”

    Biden won the election, but at least Epstein didn’t kill himself.

  145. Corvinus says:
    @Treg

    Trump didn’t win the 2020 election.

    • Troll: YetAnotherAnon
  146. @Corvinus

    The Bush junior election using thee machines was shown to have been rigged for the Republicans in Ohio. It was a classic man in the middle attack.

    The guy that ran the operation was later killed in a plane crash.
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/republican-it-guru-dies-in-plane-crash/

  147. MarkinLA says:
    @Hacienda

    So you are assuming the polls weren’t also frauds intended to discourage Trump people from voting?
    Given the obvious support for Trump and lack of support for Biden the polls were likely a fraud as well.

    • Replies: @Hacienda
  148. MarkinLA says:
    @anarchyst

    When you change the rules to allow people to register at the time they vote, it may be fraud but it is hard to prove.

  149. Precious says:

    Obviously this article will need an update when Trump gets the legal vote count released.

    But to point something out that got lost here…

    Moreover, blacks were a smaller share of the electorate in 2020 (11%) than 2016 (12%)….as a share of votes cast, Hispanics declined from 11% in 2016 to 9% in 2020.

    Part of that lower turnout are hardcore Democrats who can’t bring themselves to vote Republican…but know Trump has their back and Democrats don’t. It isn’t just about getting your own base out to vote, it is also about minimizing your opponent’s turnout.

  150. Hacienda says:
    @MarkinLA

    You are assuming that all polling organizations, but the most marginal like Trafalgar, were in on the conspiracy. Gallup, ABC, USC, NBC, Quinnipac, Ipsos, Zogby, etc.

    Even Fox had Biden up 7 in their last polling. So Fox was secretly in on the conspiracy. The backstabbing SOBs. If you can’t trust Tucker and Hannity, who can you trust?

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  151. @HeebHunter

    Doubleplus agree.

    The endless back-foot reactions and pussy-footing analysis. Until half these scrubs get rubbed out- it will be mask wearing full on, lock-down, shelter in place cuckholdery. Nigger please, they cain’t even say mean words, much less kill people and break shit!

    Btw… I voted BIDEN.

    Both these faggots represent wall st.

    But the essence of escalation is expedited by the salty tears of magatards, who live in their superiors reality – of simple minded WWF good vs evil; they are the least organized and most incapable, cowardly, badge worshipping- non- fighters of all the races.

    Keep it up whitey. Respect law and order. Call your legislators, now! Demand an investigation!

    • Thanks: HeebHunter
  152. @HeebHunter

    Looking at this comment section, I dont think there is any hope at all for huwhites.

    Then why complain? Hope ain’t out in the ether, it grows from within.

    The Big Guy doesn’t have us out of here yet.

  153. MarkinLA says:
    @Hacienda

    So the fact that some obscure polling outfit – that had a better track record in both 2016 and 2020 than the others should be discounted because all the “legitimate” ones had Biden ahead by almost or above double digits? I fail to see any logic in that. You need fake polls if you think you are going to need fake votes.

    • Replies: @Hacienda
  154. Hacienda says:
    @MarkinLA

    I fail to see any logic in that.

    Yes, because if that’s what I was doing, then that would be illogical.

    But, I’m not. I’m dismissing Trafalgar because it had one good election, one bad election. I’m assuming the large ones with many good elections and one bad election are still the standards. Further that you have to show evidence of conspiracy in those polls, including Fox. Where is it? Under your mattress? Hiding in your closet? Where?

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  155. Americus says:

    I don’t see Trump’s base being offended by his remarks about how much he has done for blacks. Whites know what it’s like to be white. You have to do and say stuff like that to stay alive.

    • Replies: @HeebHunter
  156. @Americus

    Maybe not that, but probably when the Q/MIGAtards and Trump staffs attacked the former supporters when they asked about the wall, the increasing number of illegal and legal migrants, the gun control, the useless and dangerous provocation against China, why was he handing the control of the Corona situation to the opposition, etc. There are so many events past 4 years that reveals what a kike loving puppet trump is, no difference than the rest of them.

    Geez, I don’t know. Why did some people just gave up on the silly “voting” game or took the accelaration-pill instead?

  157. MarkinLA says:
    @Hacienda

    Trafalgar had Trump winning in 2016 and it had the smallest popular vote win for Biden of all the polls in 2020. That hardly counts as a poor record compared to the others – especially the one who had Biden winning the popular vote by 17%.

    You mean the lack of conspiracy where everybody in the media repeated the same lie filled talking points every time Trump made a statement?

    • Replies: @Hacienda
  158. Neoconned says:

    I came here to say the obvious: Buchanan 20 odd years ago warned every one in his “demographics is destiny” polemics. Nobody listened. Nobody cared.

    Now Virginia is long blue and North Carolina and Georgia soon the same. Florida & Texas will swing that way within 20 years tops….

    I used to say “Pat warned ya….”

    And all they worry about are more tax cuts for zillionaires and more war in the ME….

  159. Hacienda says:
    @MarkinLA

    Trafalgar and the 17% polling were outliers. Outliers are statistical flukes that are rightly thrown out. You know this, but you choose to ignore this.

    Didn’t you say you were physicist or had a background in it? Now, you’ve chosen to ally or find succor with the idiots. LOL. The world really does exist in a curve. The intelligent must become stupid, just as going north eventually leads to the south.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    , @MarkinLA
  160. Derer says:

    Why Trump Lost Ground with the White Working Class

    Because large majority have no passport, never travel outside, they don’t know any other language except one and are exposed only to a world of pseudo-truth which artificially created for them their “kibbutz” media. In final analysis, some succumbed to leftists fanatical anti-Trump propaganda.

  161. botazefa says:
    @follyofwar

    None of us commenting here have the means to prove massive voter fraud. That is up to Trump’s legal team to prove it in court (assuming any courts will listen), hopefully with a little help from the Justice Dept. (Forget about the FBI helping). We can only read as much as we can about it, and draw our own conclusions. Trump hasn’t helped his cause much by adopting Biden’s basement strategy.

    Imminently reasonable.

    We also need to be careful not to claim that a handful of affidavits, mathematical irregularities, a fee thousand ‘found’ ballots’ and ‘experts’ opining on theoretical digital malfeasance don’t amount to evidence. You certainly aren’t making that claim but many commenters here are.

    I don’t watch Tucker (no cable TV) unless someone pasted a youtube link here. I don’t know what to make of his questioning of Powell, but she needs to provide proof to the Justice department or quiet down in my opinion.

    I can’t Rudy seriously after seeing him make a fool of himself in the latest Borat movie. Trump’s loyalty to Rudy is bemusing at best.

    • Replies: @Precious
  162. Precious says:
    @botazefa

    I can’t Rudy seriously after seeing him make a fool of himself in the latest Borat movie. Trump’s loyalty to Rudy is bemusing at best.

    I recommend watching the video where Sacha Cohen tries to trick Trump if you have not seen it before. It shows just how smart Trump is. Not only does he figure out what Cohen is doing and walks out with his dignity intact, when Trump is asked a difficult question he comes up with a great answer after just a moment’s thought.

    In other words…Trump knows what he is doing.

    • Thanks: botazefa
    • Replies: @Truth
  163. MarkinLA says:
    @Hacienda

    Outliers aren’t people who get it right like Trafalgar. You do realize this isn’t somebody making a guess about a random event don’t you? The point of the poll was to give an estimate of the final vote which Trafalgar seemed to do better than everybody else.

  164. Truth says:
    @Precious

    Oh yes, so smart that he had to sell out to his overseers while being a billion dollars in debt.

    • Replies: @Precious
  165. Precious says:
    @Truth

    Oh yes, so smart that I want to make up a fake story that he had to sell out to his overseers while being a billion dollars in debt so I can pretend he is dumb.

    We know.

  166. MarkinLA says:
    @Hacienda

    Just for your information. Modern scientific polling isn’t just somebody picking random names out of a phone book and counting the Biden versus the Trump votes. The idea is to create a model of the populace at large. Then you poll based on that model. If you think 65% of the populace is Democrats then you are going to weigh that at a higher rate than Republicans. This is where the other polls failed. Their models did not reflect reality. Whether it was just poor analysis or an attempt to discourage Trump voters is hard to prove but I bet the CIA is well versed in techniques used to influence who does and who does not vote. Did some of that information get back to the DNC, maybe.

    When you poll, the only way to know you are doing things right is when you get better results during the event you are trying to model than the other guys, not whether you have different results than the majority of other pollsters.

    • Replies: @Hacienda
  167. Hacienda says:
    @MarkinLA

    Except Trafalgar was wrong on the most important prediction of all- who would win the election.
    They were the only one that went with Trump.

    And, not gonna check on it now, but IBD, Rasmussen might have been more accurate in general election. State by state, it’s all kinda mixed.

    T was an outlier going into the election. And this could be measurement error. You don’t know. I don’t know. You can’t just say T was the most accurate if including vote fraud. I mean you can say that. You can say anything. I’m not stopping you. If you want to say Trump farts gold dust, be my guest.

    I certainly am intrigued by the idea that blacks and Dems can create 200K votes in Detroit, 100K in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh, 20K in Atlanta. If you have evidence and understanding of how this was done, I’m all ears. Otherwise, I’m going for the much simpler explanation that Biden, as pathetic as he was, was still 400K votes better than Hilary Clinton, esp. as he was Obama’s Best Friend. That whites had gotten tired of Trump’s shtick. And that all out media fire drill against Trump (nothing at all illegal or untoward), killed him by a thousand cuts.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  168. Mike-SMO says:

    Nice analysis of the fairy tale presented by crooked machines. What do you think? Was it the corrupt Democrats or the Swamp Agencies? Were the SOF people there to protect the chain of custody for evidence in a criminal case or were they there to reclaim “Government” servers? Until the game is over, enjoy your fantasies.

  169. MarkinLA says:
    @Hacienda

    Given the Electoral College, you don’t need much fraud to change the outcome of the election. You only had to turn a few states that everybody knew were key before the election. So planning fraud was simple. There was no sense in organizing fraud in Texas or New York.

    Was Trump stupid listening to his idiot son in law and ignoring his main campaign promises – Yes. Did it cost him the election – Maybe. However, the biggest problem was mail in voting because so many people don’t normally vote and those people tend to be the most stupid and ignorant in the country and overwhelmingly Democrat. Was there a Deep State / Democratic Party conspiracy to get those people’s vote out? Thanks to Trump we know a lot more about our government such as the fact that they are lying to Trump about the amount of troops in Syria. So even if it is true, you will never know like we would have never known about the Russia hoax if Hillary had won.

    I am not the one claiming there is massive evidence of fraud. I admit it will never be proved, partly because it won’t be investigated and partly because any evidence has been destroyed like in Georgia where the outer envelopes of the mail in ballots have already been shredded.

    The only way Trafalgar is an outlier is if you assume the fraud was all on the Republican side where a clear Biden win was made as close as it was for Trump. However, all the funny business seems to be done by Democrat operatives and benefits Biden.

  170. “However, the biggest problem was mail in voting because so many people don’t normally vote and those people tend to be the most stupid and ignorant in the country and overwhelmingly Democrat.”

    I am not sure they are overwhelmingly democrats, but I suspect that the democrats overwhelming got democrats ballots. I agree with some of the above. Though I understood that all ballots were secured until after certification in case of recounts and problems, challenges that would include the identifying envelopes they arrived in.

    The same would accurate for the voting machines, that all of that information remains secure for x number days after the process. That the machines could not be re-calibrated or returned to zero, despite the fact no ill was intended in doing so — but maintaining an accurate record.

  171. Anon[155] • Disclaimer says:

    Trump’s primary problem was a vehement and sustained attack on him by the media that was unprecedented in American history. No president has ever been subjected to that much lying propaganda on the part of the press.

    Schools were his second problem. They teach an ideology so radical that previous generations would have been dumbfounded by it. They’ve brainwashed the electorate. Only a bunch of brainwashed Democrats would think there’s nothing wrong with mobs of blacks rioting so badly that they destroy a city’s economy.

    Third was voter replacement. Whites are a decreasing share of the voters vs. Hispanics, and Hispanics, once here, are trying to vote themselves rich. They didn’t get socialism in Mexico, so they’re trying to vote for it here.

    Forth was the Covid shutdown. Democrats went hard for it because it kills a higher proportion of their minority voters, and they wanted to destroy Trump’s economy to kill his chances of reelection. If Covid hadn’t arrived, the good economy would have won Trump more votes.

    In a way, the Chinese sabotaged Trump–at the cost of their own economy and lives, however.

  172. Derer says:

    The ballots were definitely manipulated by Democrats. They were able to implement their cheating program. Mail something more here, throw into garbage something more there (strangely, in states controlled by Democrats legislators) but overall make it realistic. Some fools try to analyze the artificial manipulation. How could Trump attract more votes from ethnic minorities and not from his main base? How could senile Biden damaged by corruption, noticeably tired during debates and display his stuttering gibberish progressively with time, attract record votes? It does not make sense.

  173. Hibernian says:
    @Stonewall Jackson

    Some people who couldn’t stand Hilary returned to the Dems. Of course there was also a lot of cheating.

  174. “Finally, we see from all the Black and Antifa riots that good American Whites are cowed by the Left.

    They will not confront the rioters. We saw that in DC this past weekend.”

    There were not massive riots. But enough to impact the election, pushing more votes into the corner of the current executive.

    Based on all that went on for four years at the hands of the democrats, which nearly to a one failed —

    Laugh.

    It’s a stretch that something did not go amiss in this election. If whites re cowed its not from riots. It’s from something far more threatening — the culture that might impact how they earn a living.

  175. @Wally

    Your delusions that Trump won when he actually lost in a landslide really shows your TAS(Trump Asslicking Syndrome).

    Your MAGA tears are like a river.

    What is it about Trump’s flabby white ass that makes u want to lick it like a dog? He was a loser in business, a loser in society and now the biggest Loser of them all in politics.

    He’s so mentally shaken and affected and blubbering from his loss that he can’t even accept it mentally and goes full retard on it, like Jamal the urban pimp when his whores don’t wanna work no more for him.

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