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Ordo Pluriversalis: The End of Pax Americana & the Rise of Multipolarity, by Leonid Savin, Translated by Jafe Arnold, Black House Publishing, London, 2020.

This book is significant not only because of its detailed examination of globalisation, unipolarity, multipolarity, and associated themes such as foreign policies, superpower rivalries, geopolitics and diverse branches such as the meaning of nationalism, and ethnos, but because it provides an insight into an important school of thought in Russia and further afield.

Leonid Savin is a member of the Military Science Committee of the Russian Ministry of Defence, has served on the faculty of sociology at Moscow State University, is editor of, editor of the Journal of Eurasian Affairs, director of the Foundation for Monitoring and Forecasting Development for Cultural-Territorial Spaces, and lectures within Russia and outside. He is an organiser of the Eurasian Movement, and a leading advocate of the Fourth Political Theory. Of the latter, the primary theorist is Dr Alexander Dugin, whose influence as an adviser and scholar extends over military, academic, political, and governmental agencies in Russia, Europe, Asia, Latin America, and the Middle East.

Eurasianism sees Russia as pivotal in forming a new geopolitical and civilisational bloc, halting the process of globalisation driven by an Anglo-American axis that seeks world hegemony. In the new multipolar world envisaged by The Fourth Political Theory ‘vectors’ replace both pretty nationalism and globalism.

Traditional Russian Outlook on Western Positivism and Universalism

Given that there is much about Putin’s foreign policies that show influences from the Eruasian doctrine, Ordo Pluriversalis reveals aspects of the ideological background that often informs official Russian attitudes. Indeed, Dugin has advised a range of personalities, including Putin, Communist Party leader Gennady Zyuganov, and flamboyant ‘ultra-nationalist’, Zhirinovsky.

Savin dedicates his book to the 100th anniversary of the publication of Europe & Mankind, by Nikolay Trubetzkoy (1890-1938). In 1920 Prince Trubetzkoy identified ‘cosmopolitanism’ as a façade for ‘Romano-Germanic [‘Western’] chauvinism’. (N. Trubetzkoy, Europe & Mankind, English translation by Alexandr Trubetzkoy, online: ). What Trubetzkoy saw in 1920 in cosmopolitanism as a façade for international domination by ‘the West’, is analogous to the present epoch of Atlanticism, or U.S. world hegemony in the name of liberalism and globalisation. Trubetzkoy states what is very close to what Eurasianists such as Dugin and Savin are reiterating:

So the spreading of so-called European cosmopolitanism among non-Romano-Germanic peoples is purely a misunderstanding. Those who succumbed to the propaganda of Romano-Germanic chauvinists were misled by the words “mankind”, “humanity”, “universal”, “civilization”, “world progress”, and so on. All these words were understood literally, whereas in reality they concealed very specific and rather narrow ethnographic concepts’. (Trubetzkoy, ibid., chapter: The Hypnotic Power of Cosmopolitism).

‘“Mankind”, “humanity”, “universal”, “civilization”, “world progress”; these are the same slogans we hear today whenever globalisation is imposed on a ‘rogue state’, whether by military invasion, financial credits, aid, trade, or ‘colour revolution’.

So we see that the first critique of globalisation was based on ‘cosmopolitanism’, as Trubetzkoy referred to it, insofar as globalisation requires the levelling of all cultures and peoples in the name of the world shopping mall and the world factory. ‘Liberalism’ still uses the same slogans of ‘Mankind’, ‘humanity’, ‘world progress’, that provide the moral rationalisation for bombing a state into submission where commerce and moral rot cannot sufficiently penetrate.

Rise of Post-Cold War Multipolarity

Savin examines a variety of advocates of unipolartity, and the unipolar world that appeared after the implosion of the Soviet bloc. The end of the Cold War era was supposed to usher the ‘new American century’, as one influential neocon think tank was called. Various think tanks began looking at a number of scenarios, after it became apparent that U.S. global hegemony was not going to go unchallenged even with the demise of the USSR. In 2012 the U.S. National in Intelligence Council issued Global Trends 2030 which considered emerging conflicts in Asia, causing world economic dislocations, the possibility of a convergence of China with the USA and Europe; a fractured world where nation-states were supplanted by NGOs and world-cities as power centres.

The scenerios are not new. During the Nixon years there was a de facto agreement between the USA and China vis-à-vis their common enemy, the USSR, and a Sino-U.S. pact had been assiduously promoted for decades by Rockefeller and other plutocrats, as an adjunct to the Trilateralist doctrine (USA-Europe-Japan).

Problem of Populism for Unilateralists

However while the rise of China, the resistance of Islam, and the sundry ‘rogue states’ confronted unipolarity after the Soviet collapse, with Russia promptly overcoming the Yeltsin aberration, in some globalist quarters the chief challenge to unipolarity comes from within the USA. The danger of a breach between the foreign policies of the governing classes and the mass public – the danger of ‘populism’ – haunts the oligarchy.

Robert Kagan, prominent among neocons, writing in The Jungle Grows Back (2018) welcomes a fear of China as providing the necessary unifying focus that had been lacking since the end of the Cold War, but worries that peoples (plural) are reverting back to traditions, a process he blames on Trump. Another veteran neocon, Charles Krauthammer, wrote in 1990 in The Unipolar Moment that U.S. hegemony would be achieved, yet predicted that it would only last a generation. He frankly stated that U.S. actions in the Persian Gulf, and elsewhere were undertaken behind the façade of ‘multilateral clothing’, giving the appearance of international legitimacy, but that the world order would collapse. While Krauthammer refers to the USA creating ‘world stability’, and of ‘remaking the international system’ based on ‘domestic civil society’, Savin questions this with the long record of American global adventurism. Krauthammer calls his ‘new unilateralism’ ‘realism’ but also sees the main danger as being the USA’s return to ‘Fortress America’, or to ‘multilateral institutions’.

It is ‘America first’ non-interventionism that became resurgent, to a degree, with the Trump interregnum. What was so horrendous about Trump’s foreign policy, that aligned neocons with street rioting Leftists, is that it returned to the doctrine urged by George Washington in his ‘Farewell Address’ (1796) : that the USA cultivate neither friends or foes abroad. One of Trump’s last speeches was to cadets at West Point, where he said that the USA should refrain from trying to police the world. ‘The job of the American soldier is not to rebuild foreign nations, but defend, and defend strongly, our nation from foreign enemies. We are ending the era of endless wars’. (Donald Trump Tells West Point Cadets, We are not the Policeman of the World, Telegraph, June 13 2020, ).

So amidst the chaos of what some commentators have long called the ‘new world disorder’, Savin states that the task of those who reject globalisation is to ensure a ‘stable multipolarity’. (p. 44).

The implosion of the Warsaw Pact caused a crisis in international relations. The Cold War between two great powers assured that the USA would be restrained. In the immediate aftermath of the Soviet collapse, such restraint was gone. The USA could act unilaterally. The USA expanded its influence into the former Warsaw Pact states and Russian territory with the use of ‘colour revolutions’, whose supposed ‘spontaneity’ was well-planned and lavishly funded by Open Society, National Endowment for Democracy (NED), and many other parts of the so-called global ‘civil society’, which Russia was to blacklist and expel.

China’s Contribution to Multiplurality

Of the post-Cold War epoch, Savin sees several significant responses favouring multiplurality.

He sees antecedents in Chinese foreign policy, including the 1954 treaty with India, where territorial integrity, non-interference and co-existence were prescribed. Chinese scholars opined that the world would see one super power and many strong powers. China indicated that it would assist Europe in becoming a ‘pole’. China sees itself as playing a role in Europe’s economy and security.

It might be asked, conversely: How far can China’s economy be said to complement that of Europe, and will the E.U. become reliant on China as a ‘pole’? Does China see multipolarity as a phase in globalisation with itself as leader, rather than as a bulwark against globalisation?

The joint declaration with Russia in 1997 on a ‘Multipolar World and the Establishment of a New International Order’ places China at the forefront of the multipolar project alongside Russia. This seeks a world system based on recognition of diverse paths for development, in contrast to the hegemonic and unilateral doctrine of neo-liberalism. It was a response to the invasion of Iraq.

Russian Policy

In 2000 Russian foreign policy documents were referring to a ‘multipolar system’. In 2013 there was reference to a ‘polycentric system’ and international relations based on a regionalism of diverse interests, with regional currencies and trade pacts. That year a presidential decree referred to Russia as becoming ‘one of the influential centres of a multipolar world’.

Despite frequent references in Russia declarations and studies to the projected ‘new international order’ continuing to work within the system of the U.N., Russia had no intention of subsuming itself to any such globalist enterprise. Rather, Russia insists on its interests in Europe, Middle East, Transcausia, Central Asia, and the Asia-Pacific region. It might be asked whether China and Russia will, rather, conflict in such regions?

Significance of India

India rightly plays a pivotal role in such a new dispensation. She is seen and sees herself as playing the role of a power in the Indian Ocean that might conflict or co-exist with China and the USA. Savin refers to the territorial and civilizational disputes between China and India, but also considers that multipolarity might provide a new context for co-operation, especially if there are common interests in restraining a U.S. presence. One might expect the USA to try and confound any such Sino-Indian relationship, as it has unsuccessfully in regard to Russo-Indian friendship.

Iran as a Geopolitical Pole

Iran emerges as a geopolitical pole given its position between Central Asia and the Middle East, and its being the centre of Shi’ite Islam. Iran’s position of leadership has been impelled by its conflict with U.S. interests seeking to expand in the region. Iran’s consciousness of its position was indicated by President Khatami in 1999 in declaring 2001 ‘The Year of Dialogue Among Civilisations’ as the counter to the unipolar doctrine of ‘the clash of civilisations’. Under the following presidency of Ahmadinejad Iran pursued friendship with Latin America, Russia, Africa and China; the latter sponsoring Iran’s pursuit of membership in the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation. (Savin, p. 112).

The Latin American Pivot’

Given that since the Monroe Doctrine the USA has considered Latin America its ‘backyard’, resistance to ‘American imperialism’ has a long pedigree. This has taken the form of both far-left guerrilla movements and the rise of populists. Chavez was particularly important is assuming leadership of this trend, which ideologically rests on a ‘new socialism’ that incorporates indigenous cultural identities intrinsically opposed to globalisation processes. A proponent of ‘Bolivarianism’, the doctrine of a South American bloc, this has manifested in institutions such as the Union of South American Nations (Unasur), Community of Latin American & Caribbean States, and the initiative by Chavez and Castro in 2004: Bolivarian Alliance for the Peoples of Our America (ALBA).

Of particular importance is that in 2011 Uruguayan president Pepe Mujica iterated the need to avoid ideological dogma, and transcend left, right, and centre. What was Péron, for example, who remains such a pervasive influence, Chavez having called himself a Péroninst? What of Vargas in Brazil, whose supposedly ‘right-wing dictatorship’ is still remembered for its reforms among the industrial workers and peasantry? Both were advocates of a geopolitical bloc, as was Ibanez in Chile, although Vargas was stifled by internal opposition in pursuing this goal. Other pacts were signed by Péron with Ecuador and Nicaragua, but also stymied by internal opposition. Péron side-tracked the opposition from within by initiating a justicialist-syndicalist pan-American labour union, ATLAS, banned in 1955, after his ouster. (Bolton, Péron & Péronism, London, 2014, pp. 182-188).

Polycentricity and Pluriversality

Mulitpolarity is synonymous with polycentricity, or many centres of polity, which will comprise a pluriverse of ‘interests, perspectives, values’, where there are going to be at least several ethnic or religious groups within the same space.

While Savin traces the concept back especially to Americans such as William James, it is to South American thinkers that we return. It is here that Western universalism attempted to impose itself on sundry indigenes, first as imperialism, then as globalisation. Here there is much discussion in academia about ‘many worlds’, ways of being and of ‘reality’. Here spirituality remains a legitimate means of critique, beyond the positivism of the West. Savin cites academics referring to the continuing connexion with the spirit world, where the ‘natural, religious, spiritual, political, and social are not separate’. (Savin, p. 138).

Savin shows by the example of Carl Schmitt, the German legal philosopher, that elements of the West are as relevant to the ushering of a new dispensation as any other remnant of tradition. Schmitt is quoted from a 1927 work that ‘there is always a Pluriverse of different peoples and states’. The world is a ‘pluriverse, not a universe’. Rejecting the possibility of a world state and ‘one humanity’ he saw such concepts as facades for imposing ‘economic imperialism’.

A Matter of Time

Inherent in the globalist vision is the Late Western perception of time being linear, with a focus on the present. The obsession with ‘progress’, while thinking only of the moment, has major impacts on ecology, economy and society. Here we see a gamut of ideas inherited from the Enlightenment; positivism, Darwinism, utilitarianism.

The global managerial elite has adopted Late Western time and space perceptions, where the cliché holds good that time equals money, while to the Russian time is eternity, while India has a sense of timelessness, reflected in the vastness of the yugas of the Vedic literature, and China thinks in long durations. Savin points out the commonality of Marxism and capitalism: the lineal ascent from ‘primitive to modern’, with a focus on the present, and detachment from the past.

Citing the Weimar era revolutionary-conservative Arthur Moeller van der Bruck, epochs unfold as part of a chain of past, present and future which unlike the Late West, expresses a chain of continuity and ‘social holism’. This is why conservativism ‘creates value’, while the Late Western fixation with the present creates exploitation (Savin, p. 177); why ecological devastation in quest of instant profit is normal and necessary.

Savin poses the question as to the position of the West in a future pluriverse. Can the West be saved; ‘reset’? Alternatives he lists are: (1) Non-West, (2) Anti-West, (3) New West, and (4) East (and North and South), as a ‘spatial, ideological concept’.

Because the Fourth Political Theory is a conservative alternative, what Savin shows is that the left critique is flawed because the left itself derives from the same zeitgeist. Oswald Spengler said something similar a century ago when he stated that there is no so-called ‘proletarian’ movement that does not operate in the interests of money, in his essay/lecture on ‘Prussian socialism’ (1919), in The Decline of The West, and in The Hour of Decision.

Enlightenment Spectre

From the notion of time as lineal and therefore suggesting ‘progress’ emerged the notion that some races are ‘primitive’ and some advanced. Here the Western concept of ‘race’ emerged, again from the Enlightenment. This notion of ‘progress’ heralded the doctrine of the ‘civilising mission’ of the West, a notion that the USA assumed after Britain’s imperial decay, and rationalised colonialism; the precursor of today’s globalisation. Enlightenment philosophers such as Adam Smith and Kant had written of racial hierarchies, and the ‘necessity of development’.

We might recall that Rousseau held such notions, as did the liberal-democrat, pro-Jacobin, slave-owning Francophile faction of the USA’s Founding Fathers led by Thomas Jefferson. As did Karl Marx, whose dialectical materialism required the imposition of industrialisation on ‘primitives’ such as Indians, writing that ‘whatever may have been the crimes of England she was the unconscious tool of history…’ (Marx, The British Rule in India, NY Daily Tribune, June 25, 1853). Without ‘the laying of the material foundations of Western society in Asia’, there could be no process leading to socialism. (Marx, The Future Results of British Rule in India, NY Daily Tribune, August 8, 1853).

Character of Laws

Globalism and unipolarity, or American hegemony, receives legal sanction by contrived notions of ‘international law’. With Savin’s chapter on ‘law and justice’ (p. 187) we come to the utilitarian methodology of imposing and expanding that hegemony. International law is expressed through institutions such as The Hague Tribunal and the London Court of Arbitration. Francis Fukuyama suggests an international network of institutions to enforce international law.

‘International law’ justifies global interference including military invasion. The manner by which this serves vested interests might be seen by such examples as U.S. support for Kosovan independence, while rejecting the Crimean desire to return to Russia. The criteria for support or opposition rests with what serves globalist economics and geopolitics. Savin points out the manner by which the USA buys votes in the U.N. Security Council and General Assembly with offers of aid and loans, including support or otherwise for IMF loans.

Again, ‘international law’ proceeds from Enlightenment doctrine, including the social contract theory of Locke, Rousseau and Kant. What we are seeing is the replacing of organic world-views, whether in regard to time or law, with the inorganic and utilitarian. Savin mentions that the process was already emerging during the 16th Century, where mercantile expansion was the forerunner of globalisation: he alludes to Catholic theologian Francisco de Vittorio objecting that there is ‘no universal civil jurisdiction’. Subsequent conservative critics in the West such as Joseph de Maistre, and more recently Carl Schmitt, raised similar objections to universalism, contending that there are a multiplicity of localised world-views, from which emerge laws according to unique circumstance.

What has arisen over centuries of global mercantile expansion, once justified with religious morality, and now with international judicial concepts, has cynically in the name of ‘human rights’, become a universal levelling process.

Security and Sovereignty – Shifting Definitions

The intrusion of ‘international law’ serves Pax Americana. From ‘international law’ one proceeds to justifications for embargoes, sanctions and outright military invasion. The concepts of security and sovereignty are no longer defined according to local traditions, customs, and the ecological and historical experiences that go to form tribes, peoples, cultures, nations, and states. They are levelled to serve unilateral agendas.

Because language is manipulated, Savin often uses etymology to discover the root of concepts. Hence, ‘security’ has meant to the Greeks, ‘to knock down’, to the Romans, ‘without worry’, to the Russians, ‘careful oversight’, or vigil. We now have in the lexicon of statehood, ‘failed states,’ ‘fragile states’, ‘fractured states’, ‘restricted sovereignty’. To the modern epoch ‘collective security’ means what might be delivered to a ‘rogue state’ or a ‘failed state’ by NATO bombs, especially if that state includes a resource-rich region, such as Kosovo. U.S. backing for the 2014 coup in the Ukraine is regarded as a matter of ‘self-determination’, while Russia’s support for Crimea is called ‘expansionism’.

Other systems are at play, such as cyberwarfare, and the intrusion of transnational corporations, NGOs, venture funds and rating agencies; the power of ‘Big Pharma’ and Monsanto, regional alignments, the role of the U.S. dollar , and the granting or withholding of World Bank loans. Stewart Patrick suggests in Sovereign Wars (2017) that the extension of global links will provide new opportunities for globalisation. Indeed, it is readily ascertainable how NGOs and ‘civil society’ have acted in tandem with the U.S. State Department, USAID, NED, cyber-giants, and many others to intrude on sovereignty. This has enabled the USA to become a ‘hyper-sovereign power’ that extends an outreach globally, unrestrained by traditional concepts of security according to proximity. Savin also mentions Israel as ‘hyper-sovereign’ in its occupation of territories from neighbouring states, and the ‘pseudo-sovereignty’ of Palestine. One might also add the ‘hyper-sovereignty’ of Israel’s world-wide network that encompasses Diaspora Jewry, and sundry lobbies such as AIPAC.

Russia and Hungary acted to remove this ‘civil society’ due to its service to U.S. interests. While whole regions, state after state, have been brought into the orbit of Pax Americana U.S. officialdom alleges that Russia interferes in U.S. politics. Savin states that Russia has sought to defend herself from this onslaught by establishing in 2017 the Temporary Commission for the Protection of State Sovereignty & the Prevention of Interference in the Domestic Affairs of the Russian Federation.

Economics & Religion

These two premise sovereignty and security. As one might expect they are studied as separate entities today, where there has long been in Western academia and further afield a lack of coherence in studies, and overspecialisation that does not allow for a holistic education. But religion reflects the character of a people-culture-nation-state, and economics is also as much diverse among the peoples of the world as religion.

Again the theme is that there is no universal – ‘one size fits all’ – categorisation for the nebulous construct called ‘humanity’.

Savin returns to etymology in seeking for the nature of the subject: economy = home(stead) + rule. (Savin, p. 252). Economics expresses locality; although under globalisation, the locality becomes universal. What remains of traditional religion conflicts with modern economics.

For the West Protestantism had a primary impact on economy, and its predicate the Medieval social ethos; i.e. Catholic. Savin states that Catholicism introduced a rationalistic element into Medieval thought which allowed for the entry of capitalism. However Gothic Europe had for centuries lived according to an ethos that eschewed not only usury as sin, but mercantile competition. The economy was profoundly non-capitalist. In 325 A.D. the Council of Nicea banned usury – interpreted as any profit from money – among clerics. Under Charlemagne the ban was extended to laymen. In 1139 the Second Lateran Council called usury theft. In 1311 the Council of Vienne declared usury a heresy. However, the Church often allowed Jews to practice usury, as did the Muslims, and prohibitions started to wax and wane. (K. R. Bolton, Opposing the Money Lenders, London, 2016, pp. 2-3).

The Jewish role is considered in detail by Savin, drawing on the sociologist Werner Sombart (The Jews & Modern Capitalism, 1911), and sundry Jewish historians. More consideration could be given to the decisive Protestant role, although Savin does cite Max Weber, (The Protestant Ethics & the Spirit of Capitalism, 1905). Although the Church was still in the 16th century resistant enough to try (unsuccessfully) to ban Molinaeus’ book Treatise on Contracts & Usury, Henry VIII established a legal rate of usury, and the old prohibitions gradually went. Holland became the centre of modern banking, from whence the Bank of England learnt its trade. The primary utilitarian philosophers Adam Smith, Jeremy Bentham, David Ricardo, and John Stuart Mill defended usury as legitimate contract. (Bolton, Opposing the Money Lenders, op. cit., p. 4).

Judaism, Catholicism, Islam

Savin states out that Judaism, unlike Christianity and Islam, is based around legalistic contracts with God. (Savin, p. 256). Their continuing nomadism made them an international people that were ideally situated to be the middle men of commerce across boundaries. This was the premise that Menasseh ben Israel, head of the Jewish community in Amsterdam, used in trying to persuade Oliver Cromwell to allow Jews readmittance to England. (Menasseh ben Israel to Cromwell, 1655, in Paul R. Mendes-Flohr and Jahuda Reinharz, The Jews in the Modern World, Oxford, 1980, pp. 9-12).

Savin sees Catholicism as lacking in its response to the rise of international capitalism. However he does accord credit to the encyclicals of Popes Leo XIII (Rerum Novarum) and Pius XI (Quadragesimo anno) which offered an alternative to capitalism and socialism, both seen as godless. Savin accords even less cogency to the position of Russian Orthodoxy to the problem, other than vague principles relating to commerce.

Islam has had a robust outlook in condemning usury (riba) as sin and proclaiming the need for social justice in trade, but here too there are flaws. Savin cites B. Koehler’s Early Islam & the Birth of Capitalism, (London, 2014).

Economics has an inherently global character which Savin sees as only being avoidable by a totally closed economy such as the North Korean. He also avers to the problem of surplus production that has yet to be resolved, which Marx pointed out was an impelling factor that would internationalise trade beyond the boundaries of empires. An alternative that was found by Schumacher of ‘small is beautiful’ fame was from ‘Buddhist economics’, which is also called the ‘middle way’; a sustainable economy, rather than a growth economy.

The question is one that stands at the crux of opposition to globalisation, but one that both Right and Left fail to address: the sovereign prerogative of the state to issue its own credit and currency, according to the productive capacity and needs of its people, without recourse to global financial speculators. That this can be done without any wizardry or miraculous intervention was shown during the 1930s by this reviewer’s country of residence. (K. R. Bolton, State Credit & Reconstruction: The First New Zealand Labour Government, International Journal of Social Economics, Vol. 38, no. 1, January 2011, pp. 39-49). That the present New Zealand Labour Government does not have the foggiest idea of how to deal with the housing crisis is indicative of the woeful lack of today’s economic understanding, which one might suspect is deliberate obfuscation cultivated by those who fund such institutions as the London School of Economics.

However, the Russian Orthodox Church has made recent declarations on usury. Moreover there is a local currency called the kolion that could provide a Russian example of what can be done on national and regional scales. (Bolton, Kolionovo vs . Usury: A Lesson for the World,, 19 May 2016, ).

Power & State

Economy, sovereignty and religion are intrinsic to notions of state and power. In defining the many forms Savin refers to Plato’s types of power which reflect the cyclical descent of a state from health to decay: from monarchy and aristocracy, to the tyranny of oligarchs and mobs. Latin rex had legalistic implications, Persian Shahan sha (king of kings) reflected the divine nexus typical of traditional societies, while to the Rus leadership derived from one who initiates a beginning (Savin, p. 287).

Max Weber described three types of power in the modern epoch: rational/legalistic, traditional, charismatic. To the conservative French thinker Joseph de Maistre, power is predicated on something transcendent, whether religious or juridical. Heidegger, in referencing Nietzsche, saw power as mastering over something, including oneself. Acclaimed Persian Sunni scholar al-Ghazali (1058-1111) presented a similar outlook of self-mastery [the inner jihad of Muslim theology].

The constant lesson from Savin is that globalisation means shifting definitions, and an attempt to set a universal standard. Hence the ‘citizen’, the subject of state and power, becomes the mobile and cosmopolitan consumer, rootless, as befits concomitant shifts in notions of territory and locality. Savin refers to the ‘mall-state’, (Savin, p. 303).

The past epoch of imperialism saw the imposition of borders regardless of ethnicity. Savin refers to the fracture of the Kurds across several states, and to the Durand Line between Afghanistan and Pakistan. The Middle Eastern states are composed of a colossal mess of map design by the Anglo-French that so disturbed T. E. Lawrence. The Versailles Treaty subjected Sudeten Germans to Czechs and provided Hitler with the justification for expansion eastward. The demands for a Greater Albania were the means by which Kovoso was detached from Serbia. Many other inorganic and a-historic borders provide propagandistic justifications for U.S./NATO/UNO intervention.

Ethnoi, Peoples, Nations

The natures of ethnoi, peoples, and nations are being redefined with the goal of obliteration into a vortex of monoculture, where a mass of drones is administered by a managerial class.

Concepts of nationality include the German ‘volk’, and the ‘Deusches volkthum’ of Friedrich Jan (1815) defining individuals united into an idenitity. Jacobinism and liberalism played an important role in defining nationalism and ‘people’ as a means of rebellion against the traditional dynastic and imperial orders, uniting individuals by means of social contract and constitutions rather than through the nexus of divine rulership. For Herder nations are born from time and place, and each nation has its own character. The Romantic Movement referred to a common spirit of ‘past, present and future’.

Max Weber saw the nation as ‘a specific sentiment of solidarity in the face of other groups’, and he wrote of a people’s ‘values’. (Weber Economics & Society, Vol. 2, p. 922). There were and remain theories that both affirm and reject the necessity of attaching nation to state. For Margaret Canovan nationhood reflects ‘solidarity’ and ‘feeling’ (Nationhood & Political Theory, 1996, p. 69).

Savin traces the Russian school of ethnology to Sergey Shiro Kogorov, who defined an ethnos as ‘a group of people who speaks the same language, recognises their common origin, and has a set of customs and lifestyles which are preserved and sanctified by traditions which differ from the customs of other groups’. (Savin, p. 323). During the Soviet era ethnos was defined by Yulian Bromley as ‘a stable group in a definite territory, with common and stable particularities of language, culture and psyche’, conscious of their unity and difference from others. He stated that language and religion were not definitive criteria for an ethnos.

Savin alludes to Russian Eurasianists as referring to ‘multi-ethnic nationalism’, based on ‘historic destiny’, rather than ethnicity, language or religion. (Savin, p. 343). Savin sees the denial of ethnic differences as part of modernism and post-modernism. He alludes to ‘constructivism’ as the post-modern contention that ethnos is a creation of power elites (Savin, p. 328).

Professor Alexander Wolfheze sees modern nations as ‘bio-cultural residues’ from the overthrown traditional order, where the bourgeois replaces the dynastic rulers. (The Sword of Tradition & the Origin of the Great War, 2018, p. 271). As Marx predicted, this bourgeois ruling class would become ‘international’. K. Leontiev in the 19th century saw modern nationalism as a means of ‘cosmopolitan democratisation’. (National Policy as a Tool of World Revolution). There arose a chauvinistic aggressive nationalism that provided ideological impetus for imperialism and colonialism, in pursuit of markets and resources; the forerunner of globalisation.

Beyond Western concepts, Savin examines the Arab, where ‘nation’ has been defined as a ‘community of people, bound together by a commonality of race, language, homeland, and laws’ (Abd al-Rahman al-Kawakibi). Ibn Khaldan referred to the ‘spirit of solidarity’ (asabiyyah), where language played the predominant role. In our time, the Grand Mufti of Moscow, R. Gaynetdin defines ‘nation’ as a ‘spiritual kinship’ with language and territorial bonds. (Savin, p. 346).

Indian nationalism was not constituted until the 19th century as a doctrine. Ghandi equated nation with self-governance. A. Ghose saw nationalism as ‘a divine force’, as ‘god manifesting himself’. D. Savarkar was influenced by 19th century Western Indology, referring to communalism, territory, blood (Aryan), Sanskrit, and Hinduism.

Strategic Cultures & Civilisations

While nations have fixed territories, a people (singular) does not. National borders frequently do not correspond with ethnic divisions. There might be successful sub-nations existing within a supra-nation, or imperial edifice where the monarch is the unifying factor, confederations, or state imposed edifices. Savin uses the example of the Quechua Indians spread over a large number of states in Latin America.

The term ‘strategic cultures’ was coined by Jack Snyder in 1977 to analyse the impact of cultures on international relations and military conflicts. However the antecedents go back to Sun Tzu, and Thucydides (Savin, p. 358). During the 19th century concepts such as ‘folk psyche’ and ‘folk spirit’ anticipated ethnopsychology. Savin gives a recent example of Ruth Benedict’s study on Japanese ethnopsychology produced during World War II, The Chrysanthemum & the Sword. Benedict and other social scientists, despite their generally leftist persuasion, played a major role during the Cold War is supplying ethnographic studies for the USA, including the CIA. Through the Asia Foundation, for example, the CIA created ‘part of a widespread pattern linking hundreds of anthropologists and other regional specialists with Cold War intelligence agencies’. (Katherine Verdery, The CIA is Not a Trope, Hau: Journal of Ethnographic Theory (2016), Vol. 6, No. 2, p. 447).


The social scientists employed by the CIA, working in tandem with Rockefeller, Ford, Carnegie and other oligarchic funds, analyse and categorise peoples and cultures according to how they might be subsumed by globalisation. Scholars from outside the West assert the recognition rather than the obliteration of diversity. Muslim scholars assert a dichotomy: there is Islam, and there is the West and its ‘surrogates’ in which money predominates.Abdul Rahman states that there can be no ‘dialogue of civilisations’, because of the hegemonic nature of the West, but states that there needs to be dialogue that maintains a balance of power of different civilizational blocs.(Savin, p. 379).

Russian Eurasianists in emigration, such as K. Chkheidze, criticising the flawed character of the League of Nations, seen as trying to implement a universal state, advocated ‘continental states’, which took account of racial psyche, cultural heritage, and a common recognition of historical tasks. These geopolitical blocs might include Pan-Islam, Pan-Europe, Pan-America, Pan-Asia, and Russia-Eurasia. These ideas probably influenced Karl Haushofer, the German geopolitical theorist, whose doctrine in turn has influenced current Russian thinkers. (Savin, p. 390).

Samuel Huntington politicised the concept of ‘civilisation’ in Clash of Civilizations: Remaking a World Order (1996). Here we see civilisation blocs in intrinsic conflict as they pursue or resist hegemony. Globalist hegemony receives coherent opposition perhaps most of all from Shi’ite Islam and Russia. However, Dugin offers an ideology and implicit strategies intended to be broad enough to be adapted across the world: a type of global anti-globalisation. Dugin in The Theory of the Multipolar World (2012) credits Huntington with coming closest to conceptualising the ‘pole’ as the basis for a pluriversal system of international relations.

While Dugin is the most widely known and influential of the present Eurasianists, he is part of a geopolitical tradition in Russia, the ‘founding father’ being Petr Savitsky whose concept of mestortazvitie (‘place-development’) refers to the emergence of blocs as totalities comprising geographic, ethnic, economic, historical, and other factors. (Savin, p. 392). Ethnography has been an important factor. Lev Gumilev with his Ethnogenesis and the Biosphere of the Earth (2012), has provided a fascinating hypothesis on the emergence of ethnoi and the role of geography. From Germany the geopolitical theorist Carl Schmitt (‘large spaces’) provided important input.

In concluding his consideration of ‘civilisation’ Savin states that etymologically it implies a ‘process’. He refers to Norbert Elias (The Civilising Process, Basel, 1939) in stating that globalisation is one such ‘civilisational process’.


‘International politics’ is seen as a Western invention, which draws significant support from Westernised elites from the former colonies. One can point to organisations such as the African-American Institute as having selected and trained political, technocratic and managerial classes to assume leadership of the former African colonies, replacing the departing colonial civil servants with the new servants of U.S. neo-imperialism and the World Bank. Savin draws on anti-colonialist thinkers such as Franz Fanon (Black Skin, White Masks) but given the rootlessness of the managerial and technocratic classes being shaped by globalisation into what G. Pascal Zachary has approvingly called The Global Me perhaps maintaining reference to a ‘white’ ruling class’ is passé and obscures the depth of globalisation as a coagulating process of all ethnicities and cultures? We might also note that Black and Brown cultures that have been reshaped by postmodernism into subcultures such as Hip Hop are used as a means of co-opting youth in the process of globalisation, as shown in the Rivkin memorandum (Charles Rivkin, Minority Engagement Report, U.S. Embassy, Paris, 2010).

However, there are scholars within Western academia who provide depth critiques of globalisation and its Enlightenment origins, including its implications for ethno-cultural identity. John Gray in Enlightenment’s Wake: Politics & Culture at the Close of the Modern Age (1995) perceives both liberalism and Marxism as belonging to ‘secularist, rationalist, and humanist’ ‘world historical failure’ (Gray, p. 98; Savin, 400).

The implications of ecology are also identity-based: what are nations and geopolitical blocs other than the eco-systems of ethnoi from whence they are birthed, developed and sustained? Savin cites Jacob von Uexküll, founder of ecology, as stating that ‘a unitary world does not exist’. Italian philosopher Giorgio Agamben asserts, ‘every environment is a closed unity’ (The Open: Man & Animal, 2003, pp. 40-41; Savin, p. 401), a direct philosophical challenge to the ‘open society of Karl Popper and his protégé George Soros.; but a challenge that does not seem to deter ‘Green’ politics from embracing globalist agendas.

Chinese Model

In tracing the origins of a non-Western approach to international relations, Savin cites the publication of the paper by A. Acharya and B. Buzan in 2010, ‘Non-Western International Relations Theory’, in Perspectives on and beyond Asia. Savin gives first place for such perspectives to the ‘Chinese school’. However, he also cites Yazing Qin who contends that there is no ‘Chinese school’. The main ideas have been taken from the West, and remain premised on the ancient ‘Tributary System’, which subordinates others to the Chinese pole. (Qing, Why is there no Chinese International Relations Theory?, in Non-Western International Relations Theory, 2010, pp. 29-31; Savin, p. 410).

Savin contends that the Chinese school is based on the 3G model: Great Learning, Global Vision, Grand Harmony, premised on Confucian doctrine.

Hindu & Muslim

Acharya (op. cit.) advocates for an Indian approach to international relations based on religious tradition. Savin mentions Swaraj (self-government) and Swadeshi (self-sufficiency) as principles still widely employed in India. (Savin, p. 413). India remains pivotal to any resistance to globalisation in this reviewer’s opinion. (Bolton, Geopolitics of the Indo-Pacific, 2013).

Islamic theory is based on a dichotomy of Muslim and non-Muslim states. (Savin, p. 414). This religious dichotomy is portrayed by globalist propagandists in asserting the inevitability of the ‘clash of civilisations’. However, history has shown both epochs of conflict and of accord between Islam and the West. The situation is dialectically exploited by the USA’s support for Wahhabist states, while duplicitously claiming to lead a ‘war on terrorism’ as a primary method of imposing Pax Americana. (Bolton, Zionism, Islam & the West, 2014).


The Fourth Political Theory attempts to provide a coherent philosophy on which to premise alternatives to globalisation and the Pax Americana that is premised on what us seen as passé liberal-Enlightenment dogmas from the Late West. The Fourth Political Theory is intrinsically conservative, defined as being cognisant of the importance of traditions and therefore of differences. It also inherently rejects the notion of positivism and the lineal approach to history as ‘progress’.

This conservative rejection of positivism and the concomitant industrialism that was applauded as much by Marx as by the Manchester School, has brought us to treadmill economics that has encroached upon most of the world; i.e. globalisation and what Marx predicted (approvingly) as the internationalising tendency of capitalist production. To this Savin posits ‘sustainable development’. While this is an aim of the U.N. the institution is itself a product of positivist, Enlightenment notions of ‘humanity’. The nations that comprise much of the U.N.O. are still firmly embedded in various stages of capitalism, including those that are described a socialist. Certain Muslim and Latin-socialist states, such as Cuba and Iran, are exceptions. Few function outside the orbit of the World Bank for example. Hence the neglect of environment (Savin, p. 420), and lack of an ecological perspective, that includes human cultures as constituents of unique eco-systems.


In looking for antecedents to the Fourth Political Theory, Professor Martin Heidegger plays an important role. (Savin, p. 421).

The Heideggerian concept, Dasein, can be seen as in accord with khudi and its analogous concepts in East and West. Here Dasein means a state of authentic being, where one exists between past and present, the underlying notion of the eternal, and the nexus between man and divinity.

Alexander Dugin asks, ‘can one speak of a specific Russian Dasein?’ (Savin p. 425). Every civilisation has its own concept of Dasein. For Russia it is centred on Orthodox Christianity and Eurasianism: tradition, and the coming-into-being. Savin quotes Heidegger on an ‘historical people’s’ metaphysics manifesting as metapolitics. Dasein requires a process of re-discovering for those living within post-modernism.

Savin gives examples of the influence of Heidegger, throughout Latin America, among Muslim scholars, Japanese (Kyoto School), the Buddhist equivalence of Dasein (‘true being’), and Korea. Heidegger is a bridge between East and West, between ‘abstract contemplation’ and ‘rigid rationalism’. (Savin, p. 427).

Multipolar Praxis

There is increasing discussion on multipolar principles implicit in ‘multilogue’ and ‘polylogue’, where even Western scholars and diplomats are searching for alternatives to unipolarity. New alliances are being considered at different levels.

Mohammed Samir Hassain, University of Pune, sees a commonality between Germany and India in opposing unipolarity. In Germany, scholarly and diplomatic quarters are discussing the concept of ‘anchor countries’ (German Development Institute, 2004; Savin, p. 433), the equivalent to Dugin’s ‘poles’, around which regional blocs might form. The European Union has potential for what high level thinkers are calling ‘strategic autonomy’. (D. Fiott, Strategic Autonomy towards European Sovereignty in Defence?, EU Institute for Security Studies, November 2018; Savin, p. 437). In particular doctrines on European continental defence, such as the European Defence Fund, are forming outside NATO.

Savin suggests that the E.U. might become ‘another West’, while there is discussion on the E.U. becoming another ‘pole’ in a multipolar world. (Savin, p. 438). Russia stands between East and West. Russia’s role with that of Germany is being widely recognised as such among strategists in both Russia and the E.U. Although Savin has discounted Spengler, like Moeller and other Weimar era conservatives, Spengler saw Germany’s future being aligned with that of Russia as the successor to the West on the world stage. (Spengler, The Two Faces of Russia & Germany’s Eastern Problems, 1922, in Prussian Socialism & Other Essays, London, 2018, pp. 111-125).

Against Colossi

What structural forms might a multipolar world take? With talk of geopolitical and regional blocs, the impression might easily be of cumbersome bureaucratic entities obliterating local identities and imposing downward structures. However, the raison d’etre of the Eurasianist doctrine is to offer an alternative to the global uniformity; to maintain or restore every authentic identity.


Fourth Political Theory suggests geopolitical blocs as confederations of small entities. This is contrary to the Late West’s conception of ‘the banality of multiculturalism’ (Savin, p. 449), which serves to fracture and re-integrate national and cultural entities around a money nexus.

What Eurasianism suggests is along the model of the Swiss confederation, where 22 regions form an organic totality. Savin draws on the works of German thinker Leopold Kohr, who rejected the nebulousness of ‘humanity’ in favour of identities that would replace the artificial borders of nation-states (modernist liberal constructs, yet so beloved by the nationalist-right); the ‘bourgeois spirit’ as Savin calls it (Savin, p. 446).

The goal is, Savin concludes, ‘A pluriversal, harmonious order of a complex of polycentric system of systems…’

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  1. The trouble with this and all magazines on the internet is they just whine about stuff and never give you concrete, direct, specific, detailed prescriptions on how to address what they whine about.

    For instance, I happen to think that the real problem, the only real problem in the world, is the very rich (getting richer every day). Silly me.

    And I’ve even read some bitching about the rich on here, mirabile dictu.

    But then–sure they’re a problem, everybody intelligent knows that–but how are we to deal with them? How do we decrease their power? How do we get their money for ourselves? What is to be done? I mean, specifically. Chapter and verse.

    Never, never will you read an article explaining, specifically, how to go about this. I mean an article that says, go here, do this, go there, do that, talk to person, organize this thing, perform this action, etc.

  2. Here’s the problem. Whine whine whine.

    A. Where can Americans buy ivermectin?, and;
    B. Where can Americans get Sputnik.

    When you guys writing your jeremiads on here provide that kind of real, actual, concrete, useful information, then I might respect you.

  3. There is no competing with China without a competent state, and a state that cannot tax its powerful is not a competent state.

  4. MarkU says:

    Globalisation is the problem, in a globalised world if you raise taxes on the rich they will just relocate.

  5. Richard B says:

    ‘Liberalism’ still uses the same slogans of ‘Mankind’, ‘humanity’, ‘world progress’, that provide the moral rationalisation for bombing a state into submission where commerce and moral rot cannot sufficiently penetrate.

    The same template they used on the USA from September 11th to George Floyd.

    Not that they weren’t up to no good long before that. Of course they were. But the Internet let the cat out of the bag. So their actions had to be fast and continuous until the job was done. The best they’ll ever manage, however, is a Pyrrhic Victory.

    The hostile elite’s efforts to impose a social order that’s free of control and sustained by force has only increased the uncontrolled exercise of naked power. And it’s that force, constantly applied, that has destablized the very social institutions their power controls.

    The results are what one would expect – Civilizational Collapse.

    Just look around. Everything they control now is in free fall.

    The fact is, the elite have gotten themselves in for a bit more than they can manage.

    But don’t expect them to admit this. Since self-awareness and psychotic arrogance don’t go together.

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  6. @MarkU

    “Raise taxes on the rich,” is just another one of those vague generalizations I’m complaining about. You don’t seem to understand my point. A real essay would itemize, which taxes, where, which representatives to pressure with what threats at what time to get them to vote when on a bill written up by whom.

    What doesn’t “work”? Your vague pronunciamento is so empty of concrete meaning, it is perfect. Perfectly right. Perfectly wrong. Doesn’t matter.

    And when did I say “raise taxes on the rich”? How about “jail the rich”? Although that is just a vague generalization, too. The exact details of how to go about arresting and incarcerating particular, named and located rich people would be needed to fulfill my desideratum.

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  7. Franz says:

    It is ‘America first’ non-interventionism that became resurgent, to a degree, with the Trump interregnum.

    To very tiny degree. Yes, it was mentioned.

    But nothing like what might come. If the mid-70s picture was of Americans scrambling from Saigon, we need a corresponding anti-globalist version that has American investors eating out of dumpsters and sleeping under bridges to show what happens when you back a loser.

    So far, no. But it will happen. The siren call of easy money on the world market is beginning to fall.
    We need pictures to go with it.

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  8. @Richard B

    I don’t believe any of this is new,or recent.What goes up,must also fall.
    Individuals,states and empires,mountains,ideas and values.
    Something to do with gravity,or mother nature,or psychotic arrogance?

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  9. Cowboy says:

    but how are we to deal with them? How do we decrease their power? How do we get their money for ourselves? What is to be done? I mean, specifically. Chapter and verse.

    The article addresses this quest as being part of the problem specifically that it is the zeitgeist of the times to want progress towards some ends that universalizes a solution with immediate results:

    what Savin shows is that the left critique is flawed because the left itself derives from the same zeitgeist. Oswald Spengler said something similar a century ago when he stated that there is no so-called ‘proletarian’ movement that does not operate in the interests of money

    Don’t worry though, this polycentric idea sounds nice but don’t expect that the monied interests to submit to such a plan. This is a pipe dream.

    • Replies: @Rubicon
  10. Rahan says:

    Where can Americans get Sputnik.

    Very valid question. Of the 1st world places only “authoritarian Hungary” gives the citizens a choice between 4 western vaccines and the Russian and the Chinese ones.

    A brand new Russian Lada Granta sedan costs \$5K but Russian cars are not available in the states, although in 2021 the auto-industry is quite competitive.
    Same for Chinese cars. China makes more cars today than Japan+the USA put together.
    Only the Saiga rifle appears to be available in the US, for now. At least in this sphere the local monopolies don’t tell the consumer what choice he should have.

    When you guys writing your jeremiads on here provide that kind of real, actual, concrete, useful information, then I might respect you.

    Youthful maximalism detected!

  11. Richard B says:

    I agree. In one way, there’s nothing new going on. Except for one thing.

    The current situation is unprecendented in its magnitude.

    • Replies: @goldgettin
  12. @Richard B

    I’m not even sure of that,though it seems likely.Maybe,it’s always been an
    “unprecedented magnitude?”Maybe it evolves and grows in “unprecedented magnitude?”
    If the pluriverse is “expanding”, it would make sense.

    Anyway,Mr.BiDen now wants the b3w (build back better… world) \$40 trillion to launch.

    We are fast becoming a “death star”,with pro pagan da, in charge of the currents see

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  13. @obwandiyag

    Thank you. The idea should be to reduce the federal and state governments’ power over the great majority of the American people while taking back the ill-gotten profits of the super-rich.

    First, restrict the federal income tax to annual household incomes over \$1 Million for an individual or \$2 million for a married couple (amply indexed for inflation), then raise the rate.*. If this causes a few dozen filthy-rich people, mostly exploiters, to leave the USA, that’s a bonus. Hopefully they renounce their citizenship, too, so we can bar them from ever contributing to influence our elections again.

    Second, stop taxing capital gains at rates lower than salaries and wages. Tax them at the same rate, just not until they reach the high annual income threshold mentioned above.

    Third, place some of our God-given natural resources under public ownership. This refers primarily to oil, natural gas, metals, and minerals under the ground. Compensate all non-elite individual shareholders of the existing “publicly traded” rip-off “energy corporations.”

    Public ownership of natural resources can be a massive, recurring source of revenue. Right now that revenue from “the commons” is going disproportionately to a very small number of already-rich people: the few very large individual shareholders of the energy corporations, their executives, and to a lesser extent their lobbyists.

    Fourth, use the proceeds from the sale of the natural resources to fund either universal medical and dental insurance for all U.S. Citizens, or a universal basic income.

    Other reasonably large recurring sources of federal revenue should include new excise taxes on legal marijuana sales, and on cash remittances sent abroad. Cash remittances to recipients outside the USA continue to grow, and the legal marijuana market is growing by leaps and bounds. The solid majority of U.S. Citizens would not pay either of these new fed excise taxes, as they neither use marijuana nor send money abroad.


    Now, if the US government is not to become insolvent or borrow even more in our names, we will still need to make large cuts to war spending and federal welfare-state bureaucracy. “Progressives” need to be realistic about this. It is suicidal to keep printing more currency unpacked by any additional production of goods or services, or by any increase in our store of precious metals or any tangible things accepted in trade. Hyper-inflation can only destroy the non-elite U.S. citizens whom we are trying to help.

    Universal Basic Income must replace such federal bureaucracy and “programs.” Help the American people directly without creating a powerful entrenched government-employee constituency that always pushes for more federal spending, taxation, and borrowing to benefit them rather than the general public and taxpayers.

    *As an aside, in the context of the USA, a State likewise might be wise to impose a high income tax on very high annual incomes, but no tax on the income levels earned by 99% of the people. This is precisely so the often-prick people “earning” such super-high incomes will NOT move to that State. Such people very often have made their ill-gotten gains through usurious lending, real estate speculation and abuse of renters, exorbitant doctor fees, unreasonable pharmaceutical and medical-device prices, overpriced and sometimes unnecessary military equipment (like the floating death traps known as “aircraft carriers”), favorable credit and privileges from the Federal Reserve, etc. And they tend to payoff, threaten, and unduly influence the people who are supposed to represent all of us in state and local government. A wise State will gladly do without the tiny number of such problematic, disloyal elites.

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  14. @MarkU

    Good. Go. And take their outsized corrupting influence on our politics with them.

    Let them leave and renounce citizenship, and then be subject to a ban on non-citizens contributing money to any U.S. party, candidate, or “political action committee.” We’ll survive.

  15. @Rahan

    Often disagree with Obwandiyag, but his asking for concrete practical measures to ameliorate problems is the opposite of pie-in-the-sky, unrealistic youthful ideological zeal.

  16. MarkU says:

    You seem to be asking for a blueprint, describing in intricate detail how to overthrow the ruling elite, sorry but I’m not your mother (I am not the FBI either) I don’t even live in the US. You want everything handed to you on a plate, try thinking for yourself and using your own initiative.

    None of the things you suggested have even the vaguest likelihood of succeeding. The measures you suggested would require you had the dirt on most of the politicians in the US (and then some) The totally indispensable first step is to roll back on globalisation, until you do that there is no hope whatsoever (which is why I bothered to mention it) You actually had a president (whatever his faults) that was making a few tentative moves in that direction but the ruling elite just got him removed (by hook and by crook) I don’t actually remember for sure but I would be very surprised if you weren’t amongst the cheerleaders when they did it.

  17. Ktulu says:

    It’s pretty fucking brazen to refer to the policies of neocons as originating in “Roman-Germanic” thinking. Not sure if thos glaring falsity should be taken as an insult by Western Europeans or as a sign of weakness, not wanting to name the real culprits, but it is quite sickening, especially after the rape and partial genocide of actual Germans in the last century by these supposed wise Russians for daring to try and break away from the powers which represent themselves as “cosmopolitan” and “universal”.

    That is not to say that Western Europeans’ drive to seek for universal truths doesn’t make us (diaspora included) more vulnerable to iconoclastic mind viruses from the Christian religion to holocaustianity, butit also brought you the Classics, the Renaissance, Scientific Revolution and Industria Revolution. For those who would like to ignore the origins of universal iconoclastic memetic viruses and instead blame the least immune, I suggest to them first ridding themselves of the fruits of the work of the least immune. First, ditch all publishing based on computing. Second, ditch the printing press. Third, this step will be necessary if you want to keep trying to spread your slander, go get a team of scribes and try spreading it the good old non-western euro way.

    Alternatively, you can learn to use a very easy to say word: jew.

  18. MKL says:

    Surely you meant Francisco de Vitoria, founder of the School of Salamanca and international law; he was not Italian.

  19. @obwandiyag

    Because it is a crime to talk about it, let alone do it.

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  20. I don’t listen to Slav takes, they’re notorious disinfo agents second only to yahudis. What the world really need is not a new superpower but a clean slate through creative destruction ie nuclear war. Set the world on fire and let the appropriate nation(s) rise to the top.

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  21. Anonymous[278] • Disclaimer says:

    This is another of those dissapointinglywaytoolong articles. Is the juice worth the squeeze? I’ll never know because I’ll never read the goddammeanderingbloviatingtooeffinglong emmeffer.

    Author got issues but fortunately we have a word for that, “on the spectrum” which is code for “big fizzy douche”.

  22. gT says:

    Nice distinction between a sustainable economy and a growth economy. The growth economies of course are usury driven so adhere to the linear approach to history ‘as progress’. Problem is the growth economies need growth to survive, plus they have unlimited credit so up their GDP considerably, so credit driven GDP if you will. This big GDP enables them to build their militaries to grab even more opportunities / resources for growth from other countries, mainly Third World.

    So growth driven economies are inherently unstable because they always need growth to survive, plus they are inherently predatory as their inflated GDP enables them to build up armies to take growth / resources from other countries.

    Sustainable economies / countries thus don’t stand a chance unless they also embark on growth economies where ‘ecological devastation in quest of instant profit is normal and necessary’. So growth economies are doomed when they can’t acquired more resources easily and sustainable economies are doomed unless they build up their military to prevent the growth economies from coming to rape them, tough. Not sure how the Forth Political Theory fits into this.

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  23. In looking for antecedents to the Fourth Political Theory, Professor Martin Heidegger plays an important role.

    The chaos star looks bitching but he loses me right there. Nobody understands Heidegger. Heidegger didn’t even understand himself. Also that is not exactly a chaos star. Carroll and Sherwin’s chaos star had the arrow points terminating on a circle, not a square. Not sure why everybody calls it a chaos star; is that a Russian thing?

  24. @obwandiyag

    Why compete with China? Why not co-operate? Competition is a favourite of Western psychopaths because it divides humanity into winners and losers. And, as the racist hate campaign against China, the preposterously Evil lies eg ‘genocide’ in Xinjiang, the sanctions, the sabotage of Huawei, ZTE etc (which is already back-firing in the Exceptionals and their running-dogs’ faces)and the threats and intimidation all show, the West does not like real competition. They like the rules rigged to their favour.

    • Agree: Sarah
  25. GMC says:

    Great review – Had to really concentrate on this one – So, as long as the European Union keeps 27 different countries, from being themselves , like they were in the Past, the multi polar concept will either have to work around this , or consider the EU one Bloc – for now. Same with the USA and it’s conquered colonies. At least if some intelligent people from various countries read this Book , and or this review , they could come to the conclusion, that there is an alternate route other than the Western type globalization, which is nothing more than Crime Syndicate. It will take considerable time in order to break away from the western type globalism, however.
    Good to see that this review, didn’t leave out the usual suspects – that are totally responsible for most of the “turmoil” in the World.

  26. Smith says:

    I’m waiting with baited breath.

    Let’s get this giant cancer over with.

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  27. Papa says:

    Want to end the Neoliberal world order? Easy.
    End Consumerism.

    • Replies: @gotmituns
  28. Miro23 says:

    Savin poses the question as to the position of the West in a future pluriverse. Can the West be saved; ‘reset’? Alternatives he lists are: (1) Non-West, (2) Anti-West, (3) New West, and (4) East (and North and South), as a ‘spatial, ideological concept’.

    Without complicating the issue too much, keep the various countries of Europe as the historic homelands of the various ethnicities. Great Britain belongs to the historic ethnic British, France to the historic ethnic French, Germany to the Germans and Russia to the Russians etc.

    It’s simple and understandable, probably corresponds to what most people want, and doesn’t exclude long term resident non-Europeans who can have full rights other than citizenship.

  29. Thanks to Kerry Bolton for the review. I hope to read Savin’s text in the future.

  30. Sarah says:

    Very good article, making a good tour of the question with many references.

    Multipolar Praxis

    Now it’s time to get down to business. Praxis now.

  31. Sarah says:

    The trouble with this and all magazines on the internet is they just whine about stuff and never give you concrete, direct, specific, detailed prescriptions on how to address what they whine about.

    The author has made an assessment, an observation, defines the objective to be reached.
    Now it’s up to you to act without waiting for Mom to take you by the hand and tell you what to do.

    For instance, I happen to think that the real problem, the only real problem in the world, is the very rich (getting richer every day). Silly me.

    Why are the rich getting richer? What do you think?
    IMHO they are getting richer and richer because you give them your money, because you accept their loans.
    Start acting now.
    In a very concrete way, start by stopping buying from the monopolists, stop subscribing to them, stop using their services, even if they are (apparently) free.

    • Agree: TheTrumanShow
  32. Sarah says:

    Here’s the problem. Whine whine whine.

    When you guys writing your jeremiads on here provide that kind of real, actual, concrete, useful information, then I might respect you.

    But… you’re the one crying!
    Stop crying and act.
    Thou shalt help thyself.

  33. Humanity is on a different frequency than monotheistic “free” world and THEIR “free markets”.
    The last British possession in NA is the leader with innovative labels like “SMB, Supply Management Boards “, which are price manipulation or racketeering instruments of CENTRAL rulers for mini state-lets labeled “Provinces” to indicate imagined unity.

  34. The job of the American soldier is not to rebuild foreign nations, but defend, and defend strongly, our nation from foreign enemies. We are ending the era of endless wars’. Donald Trump

    The problem with Trump is that he was/is totally incoherent. In parallel with making the claim of “ending the era of endless wars” Trump/Congress shoveled even more Billions to the hyper-bloated War Machine. And threatened to unilaterally destroy North Korea and Iran (based on his orders alone). And also do a military beat-down on Venezuela on the side while staying in Syria to cripple that poor country’s efforts to rebuild.

    Trump is a vulgarian idiot who is completely oblivious to the wise admonitions of President Washington. With friends like Trump, non-interventionists don’t need enemies.

    • Replies: @Proud_Srbin
    , @Proud_Srbin
  35. Oracle says:

    “ While nations have fixed territories, a people (singular) does not. National borders frequently do not correspond with ethnic divisions.” There once were nations with fixed borders that were occupied by single ethnicities: England was occupied, strangely enough, by the English and so on. That occupation of a single nation with fixed borders by a single ethnicity was the engine that secured a future for the occupying ethnicity. What we have now is a recipe for insecurity, friction and competition on every level. It’s a disaster.

  36. gotmituns says:

    End Consumerism.
    Agreed, but that would bring on mass suicides because that’s what millions of people live for, to buy unneeded things and then buy more unneeded things. The ones who didn’t outright kill themselves would be put in mental institutions run by people like themselves.

  37. Richard B says:

    I’m not even sure of that,though it seems likely.Maybe,it’s always been an
    “unprecedented magnitude?”Maybe it evolves and grows in “unprecedented magnitude?”
    If the pluriverse is “expanding”, it would make sense.

    You should change your user name from goldgettin to gobbly goo.

  38. Anon[185] • Disclaimer says:

    Good on the slight mention of Hindu and Confucian thinking

    Bad on ignoring the Byzantine influence on Western Europe, interesting that Leonid, a supposed Russian, would ignore the center of all Western Thought from 400 to 1453AD.

    There is a saying , something about the first 2 Rome, and the 3rd. 🙂

  39. @Neutral Observer

    Trump is a vulgarian idiot who is completely oblivious to the wise admonitions of President Washington. With friends like Trump, non-interventionists don’t need enemies.

    CANCELLING, ERASING und PROHIBITING him and 85 million American Americans was just a WARNING shot. He and AMERICANS are not safe yet, the game continues!
    Mr.Trump did the BEST he could, HE is also AWARE how “free” world deals with dissidents, JFK, RK, MalcolmX, Dr.King and many others.
    Mr.Trump is too young to feed worms and fertilize soil.

    • Agree: CelestiaQuesta
  40. Sean says:

    The constant lesson from Savin is that globalisation means shifting definitions, and an attempt to set a universal standard. Hence the ‘citizen’, the subject of state and power, becomes the mobile and cosmopolitan consumer, rootless, as befits concomitant shifts in notions of territory and locality. Savin refers to the ‘mall-state’, (Savin, p. 303).

    Thucydides, the ancient Athenian historian saw understood moral arguments as a moves in a game:
    “When you speak of the favor of the gods, we may as fairly hope for that as yourselves…. Of the gods we believe, and of men we know, that by a necessary law of their nature they rule wherever they can. And it is not as if we were the first to make this law, or to act upon it when made: we found it existing before us, and shall leave it to exist for ever after us; all we do is to make use of it, knowing that you and everybody else, having the same power as we have, would do the same as we do.”

    The US is strong, so Russia the failure explains that by attributing malevolence to America. China does not look as if it is going to fail, especially as the US elite are benefiting from Chinese economic growth.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  41. Old Prude says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    We are going to send our lawyers over to get you for that, chinaman..Compete with that!

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  42. @Neutral Observer

    Trump is a vulgarian idiot who is completely oblivious to the wise admonitions of President Washington. With friends like Trump, non-interventionists don’t need enemies.

    CANCELLING, ERASING und PROHIBITING him and 85 million American Americans was just a WARNING shot. He and AMERICANS are not safe yet, the game continues!
    Mr.Trump did the BEST he could, HE is also AWARE how “free” world deals with dissidents, JFK, RK, MalcolmX, Dr.King and many others.
    Mr.Trump is too young to feed worms and fertilize soil.
    Mr. Trump WAS und IS The First AMERICAN President since JFK, IMHO.

    • Agree: CelestiaQuesta
    • Replies: @Geowhizz
  43. MLK says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    As my previous comments attest, the rise of China has made its model highly appealing to Western ruling and governing classes, explicitly and inchoately surrounding the concept of competition.

    Set aside for a moment whether it’s a feature or a flaw, what distinguishes Capitalism is that those who prosper most under it seek to undermine it so they no longer have to compete.

    The same paradox holds in competing for the consent of the governed. It really isn’t an exaggeration to say that the entire globe got a lesson in the clash of two systems in the last US election. Trump competing (and winning) yet declared the loser in what Democrats playfully refer to as “our democracy.”

    Competition is a favourite of Western psychopaths because it divides humanity into winners and losers.

    Competition is a feature of every society, not the least China. Assessing liability for (particular) winners and losers is a whole lot more complicated than that.

    Accept that in any system or situation, intractably correlated with the stakes, competition reigns, whether healthy and efficacious to the commonweal or not.

    Why compete with China? Why not co-operate?

    The US has been cooperating with China. Since 1989, the needle has been all the way in the direction of cooperation not competition.

    Now, consider competition/cooperation re something I’ve been banging a drum about since the Soviet Union and its Warsaw Pact collapsed. Until then, and increasingly so to fruition, the US and China cooperated against the Soviet Union.

    It’s important to note at this point that this was a no-brainer for all concerned. Believe me, the Soviet leadership wasn’t at all confused as to this alliance. Indeed, middle schoolers of reasonable intelligence the world over got it.

    That US/China cooperation ended in 1989-91. And while you can engage in “Let me count the ways . . .” and reasons therefore, to say nothing of assessing “blame,” it was inevitable because, in short, everything changed.

    In the event, and it’s baldly obvious if only you have eyes to see, CCP China set about planning and executing to compete to win. The US kept taking Cold War victory laps, becoming ever more dysfunctional, if not delusional, over the last three decades,

    Worst of all, its ruling and governing classes have grown tired. They’re openly desperate for an end to competition through force — politically, economically, and culturally, to preserve their position within the US. All you have to do is look to see how they are cooperating with CCP China and globalist filth of every stripe in furtherance of this objective.

    Whatever stories elites in the West told themselves about Russia, the Soviet Union’s successor. — “Russia’s finished! I read it on the internet” — Russia is back. In no small part because it cooperated with China against the US. Increasingly so, and now to the point that they’re is in an open strategic alliance so formidable that US elites won’t talk about it because it just makes them feel bad about themselves (as it well should).

    I’ve asked this question many times. Could you have figured out how to marshall the USG through Clinton/Bush/Obama into single-mindedly achieving that objective? Worse, increasingly so as was loudly and proudly obvious during the Obama years.

    Now the US has a “Yeltsin” installed in the White House. A nadir for the American Project, evidencing and exacerbating a multi-spectrum exceedingly dangerous situation for the entire planet.

    The dog that caught the mail truck for the anti-Trump alignment, which was anyone who is anybody, foreign and domestic.

    It ain’t going according to plan, and if you want to have at least a reasonable shot at forecasting coming events you’ll cooly assess what all the relevant players — sovereign, factional etc. — want at this point in the form of a resolve internal to the US.

    Consolidated sovereign states — i.e. those with authority pursing its national interest — as a general proposition don’t care whether their side of the bargain in geopolitical horse-trading with the US is in the US national interest and that of its citizenry (i.e. Trump’s America First) or is arrogated by selfish elite interests (foreign and domestic).

    Yet whereas everyone was dumb or played dumb for three plus years of Yeltsin in Russia, The American “Yeltsin” hit rough-sledding from the start.

    Unless I miss my mark, the powers that be increasingly want Trump back on the throne where he belongs. When that reaches a critical mass they’ll figure out how to square that circle. Here’s hoping it happens soon.

  44. Leo Den says:

    America is now infected with all the symptoms of an Empire near collapse – a tumble precipitated by America’s obsession with the needs of the racist Jewish state to reconfigure the Middle East to benefit the Apartheid country.

    In the process, the US got blindsided while China and Russia became powerhouses themselves, ready to knock the US Empire off its perch.

    Such happenstance is truly God’s doing to impede the Evil American Empire, as wagged by the Evil State of Israel, to become much worse than it already has.

  45. profnasty says:

    PaxAmericana is Globalism.
    Pax Americana? Smells fishy.
    Let’s take a closer look, shall we?
    1901, Jews ass ass inate President McKinley, take over US. Bye bye Cuba, Philippines.
    1920-1950, annihilate Germany.
    1960-1980, destroy SE Asia.
    1980s, proxy war Iran/Iraq.
    1990-2040, War on Scary Scary People.
    2001-?, Civil WarII, enslave White People.
    Pax Americana. Sure, OK.
    Anything you say.

  46. profnasty says:

    Next year’s election will pit Democrats against Republicans.
    Or, as I call it, ‘Catch-22’.

    • LOL: R2b
  47. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    The West does not like real competition. They like the rules rigged to their favor.

    Yes, and this is why the West is plummeting fast. At all levels of Western society, people are divided into winners and losers.

    Here in the USA we have black supremacy, homosexual supremacy, Jew supremacy, and tranny supremacy. All these groups seek total power, while calling themselves total “victims.” Democrats seek total power via permanent election fraud.

    Meanwhile financial giants like Blackrock, Morgan Stanley, and Lloyds Bank are buying every house they can and turning them into rentals. The goal is to reduce the UK and US populations to permanent renters. This is neo-feudalism.

    When the West talks about “free markets,” it means markets that are free to be monopolized. “Spreading democracy” means spreading Western tyranny.

    Again, it’s all about winners and losers; owners and renters; creditors and debtors. All these pathologies are manifestations of ZOG (i.e. the Judified ethos) which is now in its twilight.

    ZOG is a cancer that is extractive, tyrannical, and parasitic. It cannot stop killing its host.

    China does not need to “defeat” the West, since the West is already dying of cancer.

  48. Mefobills says:

    Kerry Bolton on Leonid Savin’s book, “Ordo Pluriversalis is a lot to condense into a review. The end of Pax Americana and the Rise of Multipolarity, is a way of anchoring people in modern era to the past.

    I go about it differently. There were always nodes of multipolarity and competing systems. A system cannot win unless it has energy and adherents. By not giving economics and hence “energy” its due, then an analysis is fatally incomplete.

    The Liberal System of dialectical materialism that the western world operates under today, manifested fully by 1694 in London, with the advent of Bank of England.

    Commentators here at UNZ keep asking the question, how do we get out of this box we are in? The box is the big bang event of 1694, and to undo the box, the big bang has to be undone.

    In the 200 years preceding the big bang, our (((friends))) had lost their main world current of wealth. This was the secret east-west mechanism of overland caravan trade, where they moved spices and precious metal. They took usury on the exchange rate of precious metal (gold/silver) at the Bosporus crossing, where east meets west. This mechanism has always been cloaked behind Jewish religion, but it is the wellspring that provides energy to the in-group in the form of usurious gains.

    How did they lose the mechanism? Isabella and Ferdinand kicked them out of Spain in 1492, and then Vasco-de-Gama discovered the Southern Route in 1497. The Southern Route was over water instead of land, and the secret mechanism transferred to the Portuguese. In the meantime, many Marranos from Spain moved to Portugal, and then onward to Amsterdam. Amsterdam basically became the new Bosporus crossing, equivalent to Constantinople. Spices and precious metal were unloaded at this port.

    Jews are the carriers, the agents of liberalism and materialism. Jewish religion is a doctrine allowing usury, it operates under the premise of in-groups and out-groups (us vs them), and it pushes liberalism for thee but not me.

    Sterile mimicry, which is the pushing of homosexuality and women’s liberation is a way of breaking down the family, which is part of out-group thinking. Liberalism and Materialism says don’t you want that nice car, well then put off having a family and go into debt.

    Since 1694, going into debt took on a different meaning because the debt instruments were morphed to “create money” rather than intermediate existing money.

    These things had to happen for the big bang:

    1) Double entry ledger by Pacioli in 1487
    2) Modern Stock Market mechanisms invented by Sephardic Jews while in Amsterdam
    3) Stock Market Capital channels toward unlicensed Jewish traders (about 700 of them).
    4) First companies that are stock owned, including banking companies that manufacture money at debt.
    5) Stocks and Bonds are on-sold into free markets. Free market theology is invented as a cover.
    6) New religions funded/created (Judeo-Christian) that suppresses former teaching that usury is a sin on the same level as murder. It also elevates Jews as God’s special people, so crime can be done in the open but yet remain invisible.

    The big bang debt-spreading system ended up absorbing England by way of the City of London. City is a privateer corporate zone where the Queen has no real authority. It then jumped to new finance centers, especially wall street.

    On the margins, there was push-back against the new big bang dialectical materialism, but it appeals to base human greed. If Jews and their fellow travelers create a business plan to import negroes, well that is a small price to pay to then make the land produce. The land produces and that can then pay expanding debt ledger claims. Or, changing the law in England to make small crime have large consequences, then allowed kid-napping and white debt slavery. Capital sprang from a debt based double entry ledger at the BOE, and expanding debt claims want to be paid. The string pullers hiding in the free market enjoy their cat-bird seat as unearned wealth pours in.

    Dialectical Materialism i.e. liberalism was pushed back by New Zealand and Australia and Canada in the 30’s to overcome the great depression, as these civilizations used state banking to issue debt free money, or sovereign debts to then employ labor in a productive fashion, rather than to vector economic surplus to a privateering oligarchy.

    NSDAP Germany had the most complete system which undid the big bang.

    Corporations and on-selling of stocks and bonds into a free market came under control. The markets were no longer free to take usury, rents and unearned income on the weak and unsuspecting, which is the debt laden labor class.

    The money came under state control, as it should, since money is a function of sovereign law.

    False religion was rejected or pushed back, to then put spectacles on people’s noses so they could see.

    The (((carriers))) of dialectical materialism, usury, and predatory in-group behavior were ejected, so consensual civilization could arise.

    A movement requires energy and funding. To kill a movement, it has to be un-funded. The industrial capitalism of NSDAP Germany, Fascist Italy, and even Imperial Japan was in opposition to the finance capital system invented in the big bang. As an aside, Imperial Japan did not deal with their Zaibatsu class which had enclosed Japan’s lands; ironically it took the Americans post war to deal with land reform, as if the American military was communist land reformers.

    The American Colonial experience invented industrial capitalism, where the money was bills of credit issued by the State (the Colonial Governments), and said Bills channeled into industry and productivity rather than speculation and land enclosure. The General Welfare was increased by the bill system.

    There was multi-polarity in the American Colonies, and this conflict with finance capital led to the revolutionary war.

  49. This article wants so badly to be legitimately academic. The sprinkling of jargon, neologisms, splitting hairs on etymological non-issues, etc…

    At its heart, it’s just a mildly diffused rant against The West. It offers the same general justification for “multipolarity” that adherents of multiculturalism offer: there’s an obvious Big Bad, and what’s wrong with giving the rest of us equal attention, etc… so until that ideal situation happens, let’s attack the Big Bad for all its crimes and weaknesses past and present.

    We know how that works out. Revenge in the short term, enforced limits on anything that looks like a potential advantage for the Big Bad. Peace was never an option.

    Personally, I’m all for The West. I criticize the current abuses and hypocrisy BECAUSE I want The West to have a future. It can be done without the cancerous hegemony that characterizes it today. But I’m not giving any support to anything that delegitimizes the history, culture and traditions that contributed to its ascendancy — and disguises its attacks with the rhetoric of fairness. That’s not an honest appeal for coexistence.

    The West earned the right to exceptionalism many times over before it squandered it through overreach and mediocrity. A long line of winners gave the later ruling losers a strong foundation from which to repudiate and therefore erode it. The globalist hegemony and its polyglot servitors are not The West, any more than We The People are the current US government and media.

    • Replies: @Cowboy
  50. It is ‘America first’ non-interventionism that became resurgent, to a degree, with the Trump interregnum. What was so horrendous about Trump’s foreign policy, that aligned neocons with street rioting Leftists, is that it returned to the doctrine urged by George Washington in his ‘Farewell Address’ (1796) : that the USA cultivate neither friends or foes abroad
    You Sir, are not only verbose but also deluded. Trump was a lackey of Israel, not a friend. I would say he was a slave of the Zionists.
    With all the turning George Washington must have done in his grave during Trumps term, it’s a wonder he didn’t tunnel out.

    • Replies: @Alfred Muscaria
  51. And for this reason JFK , his brother and his first son were murdered. I quote from a 1963 commencement speech by JFK: “And that is the most important topic on earth: peace. What kind of peace do I mean and what kind of peace do we seek? Not a Pax Americana enforced on the world by American weapons of war. Not the peace of the grave or the security of the slave. I am talking about genuine peace, the kind of peace that makes life on earth worth living, the kind that enables men and nations to grow, and to hope, and to build a better life for their children — not merely peace for Americans but peace for all men and women — not merely peace in our time but peace in all time. End quote.

    In the sixties and seventies, where were those 317 aspiring West Point grads some of whom recently affixed their signatures onto a white paper warning Americans about a corroding democracy? Those same, Retired Generals and Admirals who signed the document in May 2021 rehashing a very old argument about the rise of Bolshevism in the USA vs their idea of the “American way”? Looking back seventy years or so, we heard a deafening silence from Pentagon spokesmen. their lips were sealed out of fear and ignorance, just like the Georgetown polite society was, during that dark episode of many political assassinations from the Kennedy’s, MLK, right up to the current era, the killing of Senator Paul Wellstone. A silence that still continues. Murders authorized not by elected government but by a cabal of out-of-control, self elected parallel governing officialdom-Neocons such as the Rockefeller brothers, Henry Kissinger, Dick Cheney’s ilk and their global plans realized through those Intel field operatives in Europe (Gladio assassination programs) . There are factions within the Pentagon that hold to the concept of preserving “democracy” (small d) by avoiding any engagement with those tools provided within the American electioneering politic. No, their stratagem was expediency, became front and center to military thinking, murder came first onto our so called democratic platform and process forget about all that soap boxing, fire in the belly stuff and speech chatter.

    I can only come to the conclusion that, at bottom, great military powers are not interested in preserving sovereignty or their particular political belief systems, only vested in control and a global balance of power(s). Therefor it should come as no surprise that our military is silent when U.S fighter jet parts are made in China or silent when our industrial base left for China in the seventies taking not only the means of production abroad but intellectual property as well. Now the finest top fortune 500 have vested interests in exploring AI on Chinese soil in a gigantic Chinese AI computer Research & Development park. As the popular California saying goes, “whatever goes around comes around”. Perhaps the JFK dream hasn’t died just yet, mutual inter dependency has taken hold, not a Pax Americana?

    • Replies: @antibeast
  52. zard says:

    We have a PRIVATE SATANIC JEWISH TALMUDIC house of horrors in charge of the money system, which they use for THEIR BENEFIT.

    The first step must be a series of educational programs so average joe on the street understands the situation. The internet is doing that already which scares the fuck out of them. This was JFKs big mistake. He tried to fix things on his own without informing the American people of exactly what he is doing.

    2nd step is to announce the US GOVERNMENT will start to issue it’s OWN CURRENCY DEBT AND INTEREST FREE and PEGGED at \$1 for \$1 federal reserve note, and start REPLACING the private money, with PUBLIC MONEY.

    steps 1 and 2 are not happening because the US government itself is a defacto government, working for the bankers to keep the current system in place so politicians need to be made aware of the TREASON factor……once more people are aware, and the way the economy is going downward, more desperate, they will take action against the treasonous assholes

    • Thanks: CelestiaQuesta
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  53. GeeBee says:

    Mefo old boy, I think that this post alone merits some sort of an award, and at the very least ought to form the underpinning basis for all future study of the thorny subject of Economics. It is famously said that if you put ten economists in a room and ask them to come up with a solution to a particular economic problem, you will get eleven different suggestions. Can this be because, amongst the likes of Murray Rothbard, Ludwig von Mises, Milton Friedman, John Maynard Keynes, Friedrich Hayek, Mark Carney, Alan Walters and uncle Tom Cobley, there isn’t one of them that has grasped the essentials and the history which you so tellingly adumbrate? I rather think that it can.

    I bumped into Sir Alan Walters once, during the Thatcher years, when lunching privately (as I not infrequently did) at Midland Montagu’s main boardroom in Lower Thames Street in the City of London, as at the time one of my ‘besties’ was the bank’s Treasurer, no less. I, not unnaturally, felt somewhat privileged back in those days to see The Great Man, who was so influential in shaping and directing Thatcher’s economic policy. Thanks to you, dear Mefo, I should today disdain to notice him, and indeed would cut him dead!

    For the umpteenth time old bean, get that damned book written!

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  54. Anon[159] • Disclaimer says:

    Still trying to obfuscate the critical issue of all time…


    Nothing else matters.

  55. “it’s a big club, and you ain’t in it.” – george carlin

    in the u.s. officials are elected via a statewide or nationwide popularity contest. most are half-wits who possess no viable marketable skills. all are self-aggrandizing sociopaths or psychopaths. none have the slightest interest of their constituency at heart.

    the accumulation of monetary wealth lies solely at the heart of their public service; it is therefore no coincidence the 1% are better represented in congress than the 99%. every election cycle the rubes fall for the latest free cake and ice cream scheme never comprehending they will receive neither cake nor ice cream.

    on a grander scale, all nations dream of the day they’re the big cheese. until such time, each peon nation laments the injustice exhibited by the reigning big cheese all the while carefully taking notes.

  56. antibeast says:

    Therefor it should come as no surprise that our military is silent when U.S fighter jet parts are made in China or silent when our industrial base left for China in the seventies taking not only the means of production abroad but intellectual property as well.

    I don’t know if any US fighter jet parts are made in China but your claim that the US ‘industrial base left for China in the seventies’ is clearly false as Mao was still alive back then while Deng took over only in 1978. The USA then officially recognized and established diplomatic relations with the PRC in 1979. US multinationals invested in China only after its accession to the WTO in 2001, after more than a decade of US sanctions imposed on China after Tiananmen in 1989.

    US multinationals did start the outsourcing of US manufacturing industries as early as the fifties at the onset of the Cold War. But other developing countries were the destination not China. In addition to taking advantage of lower-cost labor in developing countries, the US elites wanted to prevent these developing countries from falling into the orbit of Soviet Communism. That was the geopolitical rationale behind the wholesale outsourcing of US manufacturing industries to those developing countries.

    • Replies: @elmerfudzie
  57. Cowboy says:

    The US has had a Utopian spirit from the beginning (shining city on a hill) and has gone through different “Great Awakenings” (both religious and secular) and with that comes both progress (exceptionalism) and abuses (war). No longer are we satisfied with only our internal civic religion we now are missionaries to the world for the good news of the latest greatest “Great Awakening”. Coercion is applied to those countries who kick against this civic religion and now even more coercion against it’s own people who will not repent and accept the spirit of the latest “Great Awakening”. We’ve managed to get through these cycles before but the current evangelical secular religionists seem intent on imposing their atheocracy through whatever coercion is necessary to achieve their Utopian dreams.

    • Agree: Sollipsist
  58. @Rev. Spooner

    With all the turning George Washington must have done in his grave during Trumps term, it’s a wonder he didn’t tunnel out.

    Washingcuck could have vetoed the Bank of US but didn’t. The establishment heaps so much adoration on this fraud you have to assume he was in (((their))) pocket (or trousers) the entire time.

  59. but your claim that the US ‘industrial base left for China in the seventies’ is clearly false as Mao was still alive back then while Deng took over only in 1978.

    Most of the “dual citizens” in FDR’s cabinet left for China after Germany was destroyed and the USSR victorious. Millions more peasants to kill there and they did just that.

    • Replies: @antibeast
  60. In their quest for massive depopulation to finish off an obsolete civilization soon to be made useless by robotic AI, they have replaced “Mankind”, “humanity”, “universal”, “civilization”, “world progress”, with “Gay Pride”, “Black Lives Matter”, “critical race theory”, “multicultural”, “universal income”, while they declare “white Supremacists” “domestic terrorists” and the greatest threat in America and the west.
    You don’t need a high IQ or vast knowledge of global plate tectonics. The world is going to evolve with or without humanity. It’s not a question of how many will be allowed to exist, or how much wealth you possess, it’s really about who rules in the final days of mankind’s total annihilation.

  61. @zard

    JFK never premeditated to pose any danger to the economic powers that be, the American political system is perfectly satanic and allows absolutely no person not having gone through occult initiation to approach the slightest lever of power and anyway the US president was never meant to make any decision but to be a mere representative of occult executive power : the US president can only sign executive orders already written for him. JFK was an actor by vocation, 100% fashioned by the three great TV networks of that time, and provided with a fake personality and bio to go with his image. He was killed not because of any threat but just because, like most Soviet agents like Sorge, he had outlived his utility and had to be remembered as a perfect hero having died in function. He had just obeyed all to well to the point he could then do a better job being shot and serving as a model of perfection to be imitated throughout the world by “young leaders” such as Pierre Elliott Trudeau, Valéry Giscard d’Estaign, Servan Schreiber, Osvaldo Frei, among so many who claimed of JFK as of a perfect example. JFK had no contention point with the Zionist powers : quite the contrary he was sickly co-dependent upon the opinion of Hollywood people he would never contradict on the slightest point. He was a progressive as the progressive Hollywood people defined the concept.

    His policies towards Israel and towards the Jewish question were mostly determined by two personalities he depended on on the matter, Henry Kissinger and Edgar Bronfman, the latter having been at the origin of his family fortunes during the roaring twenties. These two Jews albeit ultra-Zionist didn’t trust Israel that much as it was then, that is to say governed by radicals and hippies : the only promised land they aimed at was Planet Earth, not the small one in the Middle East. JFK is known to have ushered in the Moon programme but by his own avowal in private it was impossible due to mortal cosmic rays : he thus most probably consented to the pulling off of one of the biggest propaganda operations of the history of the world.

    His main idea was that the common people should be taught myths, not science, as is the normal practice in history, so as for the masses to be always besides their shoes and most easily controllable, and since the American masses of then deified science rather than religion or mythology like the Indians did (which JFK adored for such) the solution was to provide them with science-fiction. The less known and most important part of JFK’s contribution he was entrusted with as a Catholic was the Vatican II council : he was put in charge of the operations to make that council unfold as per the will of the Bnai Brith. Among others dispensing the Jews from joining the Church to achieve salvation. JFK deployed all the necessary secret services to dispose of all Catholic prelates who might thwart such an operation. Never forget that an important part of the American Manifest Destiny was an all out war against Roman Catholicism as an arch-enemy wherever it was to be met with on earth. JFK won it for the benefit of his employers like later one Bush I would do with USSR. It was then absolutely necessary that JFK died as a perfect tragic hero lest he could repent later on of such acts of supernatural mendacity, or more simply lest his Neronian lifestyle might seep through the tabloid media and convince more and more opponents all his promises and presumed achievements and recommendations were of the same fabric. JFK was indeed far more a Nero than a Gracchus but he had to be mourned as a Gracchus so as to divert all suspicion from the Council Vatican II and the Apollo project having been lies. LBJ had premeditated JFK’s heroic death right from 1960 : he knew he just couldn’t conquer presidency, so detestable was his own personality, otherwise than by figuring as a perfect tragic hero’s official heir prince.

  62. Mefobills says:


    Remember this exchange with UNZ author Jafee:

    Jafee is a lawer and a utilitarian, or the fore-runner of today’s Libertarians. Jafee was attempting to put a glossy spin on utilitarianism.

    Why is Jafee attracted to utilitarianism? The answer is that they basically are hedonists, and want to receive unearned income, hide-out within the free market, and be not-required to pay forward to their civilization or the future.

    Economics is actually political economics, and hence must delve into what it means to be human; which in turn requires one to use critical thinking and be judgmental. Sit in judgement on your fellows, but be sure and pull the beam from your own eye first.

    Savin also reports on these types of hedonistic “economists.” They create doctrine as a function of their own mal-formed soul. No doubt Sir Alan Walters would find common cause with Liberalism and Utilitarianism.

    The Jewish role is considered in detail by Savin, drawing on the sociologist Werner Sombart (The Jews & Modern Capitalism, 1911), and sundry Jewish historians. More consideration could be given to the decisive Protestant role, although Savin does cite Max Weber, (The Protestant Ethics & the Spirit of Capitalism, 1905). Although the Church was still in the 16th century resistant enough to try (unsuccessfully) to ban Molinaeus’ book Treatise on Contracts & Usury, Henry VIII established a legal rate of usury, and the old prohibitions gradually went. Holland became the centre of modern banking, from whence the Bank of England learnt its trade. The primary utilitarian philosophers Adam Smith, Jeremy Bentham, David Ricardo, and John Stuart Mill defended usury as legitimate contract. (Bolton, Opposing the Money Lenders, op. cit., p. 4).

    These economist types lack the “moral instinct of mankind,” as I quote John Whipple’s reply to Bentham:

    By 1850 John Whipple wrote “The Importance of Usury Laws – An answer to Jeremey Bentham.

    With regards to Holland becoming the center of modern banking, that is not true. So, I am correcting Savin here. The Bank of Amsterdam was not a bank of issue and it came into being because stock market capital was swinging the local economy. Bank of issue is another way of saying “hypothecating” or creating/manufacturing money.

    The first privateering, stock owned, hypothecating, debt-spreading bank to take over a country (with debt means) was the BOE.

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  63. HT says:

    They came for the Negroes and I said nothing,
    Then they came for the Jews and I said nothing.

    Then they stopped coming because most of the problems had ended.

    • Thanks: anarchyst
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  64. frontier says:

    Only the Saiga rifle appears to be available in the US, for now.

    Yeah, I wish… Saiga and other Russian-made rifles were banned by Obama just about 7 years ago – executive order 13662. If you have one for sale, let me know, we can exchange emails and try to make a deal.

    Free trade is a ruse.

    • Replies: @Rahan
  65. antibeast says:
    @Alfred Muscaria

    Most of the “dual citizens” in FDR’s cabinet left for China after Germany was destroyed and the USSR victorious. Millions more peasants to kill there and they did just that.


    • Replies: @Alfred Muscaria
  66. Geowhizz says:

    Similarities between Trump’s and JFK’s presidencies extend far beyond their First Ladies.

  67. @antibeast


    Hoover’s “Magnus Opus” details the betrayal of Chinese Nationalists by elements in FDR’s cabinet very well. What we are experiencing has been in the works for at least 150 years and probably much longer.

  68. @antibeast

    The elites were busy union busting workers in America by investing abroad in the uneducated, vulnerable, poverty stricken third world peoples who don’t have an EPA, OSHA , DNR or Fish and Wildlife Preservation authority. Corporatism didn’t give a damn if a Hitler runs the show, or a commie, so long as they are given the green light to extract raw commodities at slave labor wages. To wit, the most recent example being; the plight of a social and environmental attorney at law, one Steven Donziger, ostracized, license revoked, because he confronted the real centers of power here and everywhere, the corporate takeover by American oil companies of several governments in South America. Confronting the wrong Ideology has nothing to do with the subject at hand-which is unfair exploitation.

    To wit, I watched the elites rape our unionized garment industry in the USA meanwhile, consorting with the CIA abroad to ply the black arts of murder, political corruption, blackmail and extortion against indigenous labor organizations and pro-worker political candidates in South America-always, always waving the flag about anti Bolshevism with the same mendacity and woke sentiment as certain Zionists who continue to play the antisemitism card whenever a social justice issue comes to the fore. Again, I witnessed, Hilary Clinton flood the EU with under-educated and destitute poor by cajoling former President O’Bomber to destroy Libya thus opening the floodgates to union busting throughout Europe (except for Germany) , using scabs and the gradual spiraling down of living standards of the middle class. The dwindling down of labor into some horrible homogeneous goop of indentured servitude throwing the western world back into feudalism and endless wars.

  69. Geowhizz says:
    @Thorsten J. Pattberg

    Exactly. The host’s immune system’s been compromised by media spread “political correctness.” Not dissimilar to AIDS.

  70. CMC says:

    That January thread was interesting, and it did in fact motivate me to some effort to study logic. I grabbed my old logic textbook and noticed this, in an appendix on symbolic logic:

    Probably the most fundamental difference between symbolic and the older logic is that Aristotelian logic concerns itself primarily with thought operations, whereas symbolic logic studies the relations between thought products. This is seen clearly in the different manner in which they handle compound propositions, an area which symbolic logic has especially explored. As we have seen in our own study of compound propositions, the truth of a sequential or implicative proposition —disjunctive, conjunctive, or conditional— springs from the relation of dependence of one part upon another, and this can be determined only by a reference to the subject matter of the proposition. Symbolic logic simply assigns a value of true or false to the parts of a proposition, without implying any necessary connection between the parts. Daniel J. Sullivan, Fundamentals of Logic, 278, McGraw-Hill Book Company, Inc. (1963).

    I thought it very interesting and possibly the very essence of my disagreement with him in that particular context. But, alas, I felt then and still feel now, incompetent to a deeper discussion and how, if it all, it related to Bentham, etc. Plus the moment had sorta passed.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  71. anarchyst says:

    Free trade” is a “race to the bottom” which can only be detrimental to the true human condition. Expecting first-world wage rates to compete with third-world wage rates never works.
    I would hope that people realize that Henry Ford was absolutely correct when he blamed the jew banksters, vulture capitalists, and wall street types for the economic conditions, not only in the USA, but the world.
    People such as “Mitt” Romney whose only expertise is to disassemble viable companies and industries, selling off the assets individually to maximize their “profits” need to be exposed and “run out of town”.
    Adolph Hitler’s Germany was successful because labor in Germany was “monetized”–given intrinsic “value”, unlike what the mantra in business is to this day, that “labor” costs must be minimized and that the “shareholder” is king.
    The internationalist banksters had to do something to “nip” the monetization and valuation of labor as it would have “upset the (existing) order. Hence, a major reason for the demonization of Germany which continue to this day…

    • Agree: Mefobills
  72. TKK says:

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    • Replies: @Alden
  73. antibeast says:

    I was pointing out your mistake in claiming that the ‘industrial base’ of the USA was outsourced to China starting in the 1970s. That is false because China didn’t open up its economy to foreign investors until Deng took over in 1978 and started the ‘market-oriented’ reforms in the 80s.

    The outsourcing trend in US manufacturing industries started much earlier in the 50s. In Mexico, the maquiladoras became the preferred location for US-owned factories in the 60s. Other ‘outsourcing’ locations include Taiwan, South Korea, HK, Southeast Asia and Latin America. But China was not involved in the ‘outsourcing’ business until the ‘Overseas Chinese’ investors moved their factories from HK, Taiwan and Southeast Asia to China after Deng’s market-reforms allowed foreign investment in export industries in the 80s. Other East Asians such as the Japanese, South Koreans and Singaporeans later invested in China in the 90s, disregarding the sanctions imposed on China after Tiananmen in 1989. After China’s accession to the WTO in 2001, US multinationals hired Asian contract manufacturers from HK, Taiwan and SEA who had invested in China back in the 80s and 90s to manufacture their US-branded products for them to sell back to the US market.

    My point is that US manufacturing industries were already gone by the time China joined the WTO in 2001. What happened thereafter was that export industries moved from other developing countries to China due to its lower costs back then. But over the last ten years, those export industries have been relocating to other lower cost locations due to rising costs in China.

    • Replies: @elmerfudzie
  74. @HT

    but you brought them there…especially the negros and the jews you let in! YOU!

    then you had to wait for them to come to take them both away? and you said nothing…or could say nothing?

    then the problems stopped!!! how the hell come??

    do you know what problems are?

    is that the way you live then…problematically!?
    so that problems mean nothing to you, indefinable for that is your way of life?

    so what actually were the problems the jews… and especially the nig nogs.. gave?

    at least you can dance now, have a sense of riddum

  75. TKK says:

    The exact details of how to go about arresting and incarcerating particular, named and located rich people would be needed to fulfill my desideratum.

    Now you are being obtuse.

    You need big money, a well armed militia of many and the ability to fight the US Government.

    If tried to go seize Bezos, not only would his bodyguards shoot you, so would the entire police department of whatever locale he is in. Then the feds would try you. You would be dead before you got your arms around his strange head- if you could get that close.

    You need to look at how Mexico runs it rich- blood soaked violence. Torture. Death.

    Remember when Prince Mohammed bin Salman seized the wealthiest citizens of Saudi Arabia and locked them in a luxury hotel? He said: Pay up or else.

    He had the entire Saudi Arabian intelligence and military behind him.

    He locked up the airports so their children and family could not leave SA. (They don’t care about their wives- easily replaceable )

    THE THREAT, SPECTACLE AND PROMISE OF VIOLENCE. The will to exterminate someone’s children if need be.

    You need an army.
    How do you get an army?
    You pay them. You arm them.

    Why do you think politicians and police fawn over the rich? Aside from the greed aspect?

    Because they have the ability to seize real power.

    Now, Putin- he’s a real thug – the GOAT gangster. He would just seize their assets and move on.

    And that is already happening to some conservatives in America. Bank seizing and freezing their assets.

    But once you cross that rubicon, you are back in the primordial’s the end of the line. A failed state- private militaries and confiscated assets for political reasons. That’s all of Sub Sahara Africa save Botswana.

  76. bayviking says:

    There are advantages to having a single unitary system for clearing international transactions. The USA introduced such a system after WWII and after is was adopted began to use it as a weapon to force every other country in the world to do things our way or else, first sanctions, then military force where it seems feasible.

    US enemies are a product of our own creation whether imaginary or real. Abusing other countries by imposing sanctions and invading other countries creates these enemies. Another less obvious form of abuse is the taking of land or natural resources such as mines or water.

    These enemies of our own creation keep the military industrial complex going at an ever increasing pace. There was a golden opportunity to create a more open environment around the world after the Berlin all came down, but instead the USA moved to consolidate its power, while simultaneously shedding its manufacturing capabilities. That combination of policy ensures that our military will never succeed in imposing our will on any other country. Without the ability to make everything yourself a military machine cannot be sustained.

  77. Anonymous[833] • Disclaimer says:

    “Pax Americana?”

    Shouldn’t it be “Bellum Americanae?”

  78. @Smith

    You poor thing. What were you baited with? Does it smell bad?

    • Replies: @Smith
  79. @Sean

    I hate to point it out, shawn, but the hoary Greek represents Western thought, that aims at DOMINANCE over others. The Chinese have a different perspective, seeking HARMONY within and between societies. Of course they have spectacularly failed at achieving it for long periods, but the ambition remains, and. at present, under a good and utilitarian Government, they have achieved a high degree of such harmony, despite increasing deranged and purely Evil efforts by the dominators and dominatrices of the West to destroy their country and bring it down, into another century, or millennium (?) of humiliation.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Sean
  80. @Old Prude

    As Dick the Butcher recommended, ‘ The first thing we do, let’s kill all the lawyers’.

  81. Alden says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Chinese harmony and consensus means the weak are so submissive that they accept the dominance of the strong without question.

  82. @antibeast

    In rebuttal or rather my responses as follows: Last June, Dario Leone published an article titled, Chinese-Owned Company Produces Parts for F-35 Stealth Fighters.

    In a historical retrospect, when the Joint Communique of the United States of America and the People’s Republic of China appeared in 1972, it opened the door to long range planning on the corporate board room level. So that by 1979 diplomatic relations were reestablished and promptly after that, the new trade agreement created an estimated four billion dollars worth of revenue but manufacturing jobs here (USA) began to dwindle. How could our workers compete with Chinese two dollar an hour wages and no health or safety regulations to boot? How can we forget the Carter years where domestic unemployment was screaming for help but none came…The disinvestment by corporations against the American worker began slowly, much like boiling the frog, so that by the time Reagan was in office, circa 1982, The “Six Assurances” to Taiwan appeared but long before that (mid sixties) our radios and television sets were already jam packed with electronic components made in Taiwan. This was only the beginning…..

    • Replies: @antibeast
  83. More bongomania in the US.

    Video Link

  84. Mefobills says:


    You probably already know this, but the logic systems of Athens -vs- Jerusalem is being popularized by Gilad Atzmon:

    One is a logic system of ethics (Athens) and the other is a system of Kritarchy. The Kritarchy rigs laws to polarize society to enrich a creditor class.

    For over two thousand years, a war between rationalist Athens and messianic Jerusalem has ensued, but not to clear conclusion. For several millennia, this epic war has vacillated and the victor’s scales have tipped hither in one era and dither in another. The war between Athens and Jerusalem continues relentlessly into our present day, and this side of the 21st century, it is cultural philosopher and Jazz artist, Gilad Atzmon, who now updates us on this epic and raging battle where each side is struggling to occupy the very perception of humanity itself. Both sides claim to be the saviors of mankind; and currently, the Jerusalem school of thought is leading, but only because its agents have successfully infiltrated to the core, the elite leadership and governments of the Western world.

    Gilad and Unz could fairly be called Athenians, not Jerusalemites. Basically, they do not have the Jewish messianic “my way or the highway” way of looking at the world. “We will kill you or put you in jail forever if you get in our way.”

    What I do is attack Jerusalemites and show the depravity of their way of thinking, especially the use of usury to fund their Kritarchy methods. Their logic system is not interested in ethics, but instead is self serving. They will wrap themselves in the cloth of morality, but is is only a cloak to hide selfish intentions.

    Some people have inherent disagreement with Jerusalemites as instinct. The moral instinct of mankind is written on the hearts of Athenians.

    And to trigger the Jerusalemites even further, Hitler and NSDAP Germany were Athenian, especially as it was transmitted to them (Germans) by Dominican Monks starting in early 1200’s. The several hundred years of the guild system, which prevented sordid gain also created a high trust society, and changed the German character to one of high ethical civilization.

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    , @gT
  85. SafeNow says:

    I learned a lot from the essay and the comments, thank you.

  86. Anonymous[293] • Disclaimer says:

    Don’t know if it’s the same ivermectin or not, but you can buy all you want at numerous stories, we bought a bottle at Tractor Supply use it on our dogs for mange and other things for \$48 dollars a pop.

  87. Anonymous[293] • Disclaimer says:

    If they relocate, simply seize their estate/their offshore accounts and label them a tax evader, and trust me they won’t run far and leave their wealth behind. You see there are many ways of dealing with parasites, first you remove the host, and they remove them you don’t go looking for excuses.

  88. anarchyst says:

    Actually, rabid environmentalists are a part of the problem.

    Under environmentalism, single-family home ownership with a nice plot of land would be outlawed, except for themselves, of course. High-density real estate Soviet-style high-rise apartments would be the norm except for themselves.

    Individual transportation (automobiles) would also be prohibited, getting from place-to-place would utilize trains, buses, etc. once again, except for themselves.

    Environmentalism is based on communism where “no one owns anything but you will be happy”.

    Sound familiar?

    It’s not about clean air or water…it’s about CONTROL.

    Its an exclusive club and you ain’t in it

  89. Rubicon says:

    “but how are we to deal with them? How do we decrease their power? How do we get their money for ourselves? What is to be done? I mean, specifically. Chapter and verse.”

    WE? Not a chance “we” will deal with them or decrease their power, nor will “WE” gain command of the super-wealthy billionaire’s \$\$\$ especially those in the US.

    Suggestion: Be Patient.

    Order Giovanni Arrighi’s book *showing* how ALL empires of the past died.

    Listen and read the Economist Dr. Michael Hudson who chronicles:
    how the US \$\$ circulates its money around the world, only to end back up in the coffers of the Super Wealthy.
    how the US\$\$ hegemony is becoming threatened by China/Eurasia/Russia that, combined, has surpassed the US in terms of a huge trading markets around the world.
    how Germany is posing problems for the US because of its immense trade with China.

    This is an amazing time in history: we are beginning to see the US hegemony lashing out, trying every trick in the book to keep the rest of the world at bay, and how that’s NOT working.

    Sadly, through all this morass, there are going to be masses of people, especially in the US, who are going to suffer and die.
    Be patient.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  90. Sean says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    There is a lot in what you say. The occupation of soldier was not a high status one in ancient China and late in history, China has been the venue for Western rivals, but also Japan (and before that conquered by the Mongols don’t forget). Just as MacArthur warned JFK about, America found a land war in Asia impossible to sustain along with the Cold War, and as a counterweight to the USSR (then closing in on its zenith) let China into the community of nations, although in Korea and even in Vietnam the US was actually being tested by China. The policy of building up China was continued under Carter and by the turn of the millennium China achieved full access to the global market. Yet the power China attained was only a reemergence of the historical norm, that is why so many pundits who thought there would be civil strife that would hamstring Chinese growth have been proved wrong with the re-emergence of recent historical trends for dissolution.

    During the chaos of the cultural revolution, Mao went to Wuhan to calm down the factions that were becoming armed and after meeting them went back to the airport ordering his pilot to take off, when the pilot asked “Where to? Mao replied “Just take off” . Wuhan was a place of contention during the Civil War as well. Plagues and Peoples a great book by William H. McNeill explained the begining of the end for Ancient Rome was novel epidemics from East after it establish contact with the Chinese Empire, which also sufferer from pandemics stemming from the Western disease pool to which Chinese were immunologically naïve. The political consequences were that China became xenophobic and withdrew from foreign ventures of any kind, the cession of Chinese exploration fleets was another example of them withdrawing, which seemed to be part of their character.

    The new aspect of China is a promethean mindset in relation to the rest of the world, which by the simple metric of them being ten time larger than Japan is an ominous portent. The Chinese do value harmony over individuality, and harmony within the community of China is the reason for their current success, which has left the naysayers looking very silly. I once thought there would be be a reaction when China became the most powerful country in the world, which I believe is now inevitable with Trump’s defeat and the installation of Joe ‘China Not Competing With Us’ Biden. While Biden was careful to not repeat his opinion of two years ago that China can never supplant the US as the world’s most powerful economy.

    I expect that will come to pass within a single generation, because it is not a military problem. All China needs is globalisation and its unbeatable economies of scale and propensity for teamwork will inexorably deundustialse the West. Meanwhile American taxpayers will be paying for the privilege of defending Taiwan, South Korea, and Japan from the country they (and European freeloader Germany) are doing fantastic business with. The US is making silly mistake as of thinking that China can be contained militarily by a system of bases and alliances in the way the USSR was. But the Soviets were always capable post WW2 is taking West Europe they actually feared the subsequent war fought across the world against the America with it supremely powerful economy: a war the USSR could not hope to win. China is gaining in relative power from globalisation.

    The current talk of diversity is by the minions of the elite and aimed at the majority; people who own the country ought to run it as John Jay said. I think modern democracy in America is has turned into a class thing aimed at liquidating the formidable white ethnic majority as a factor in politics. Trump in the White House showed how justified the Establishment Elite perception of working whites as a threat to the ruling caste is. There is a class of people who think them making lots of money in an increasingly unequal society (ie globalist ‘trade’ with China) is the national interest and so they think realist nationalism (‘ populist’) politics amounts to treachery, and moral turpitude. Hence the campaign to brand whites, at least the less wealthy and educated/indoctrinated ones, racist.

    It is working well for the business class, and so we are going to get globalism under Biden and very shortly Harris, which will suit China’s rise. An end to that anti white politics eventually will be require a revolt of the Deep State, it will come when productive capacity and the common people cease to be seen as redundant. But the population will be so disparate by that point the US innovative edge will be offset by a lack of trust and decline in teamwork as documented in Bowling Alone. The low diversity level of China’s populace will mean that the gap between the US and China will be much less than American strategists think it is by the time a war breaks out sometime after 2040 and ends in a pyrrhic victory for the US before an armistice. As a consequence, the attitude of Russia will be the deciding factor long term Russia could see America as less of a threat that China over the border, but I don’t think Russian elites are any less greedy than American ones and China is where the money is.

  91. @Mefobills

    Great post, as always.

    It seems as to me that the Jewish takeover artists of the late 1970’s who bragged about using “other people’s money” to leverage their purchase of individual corporations, provided the modus operandi for the Jewish takeover of the entire American economy today. They printed cheap money at the Fed and loaned it into existence to hedge funds and investment banks who used it to buy up every asset in sight. They now control the commanding heights of the American economy and from that springboard–the World! That’s whats at stake in today’s politics and the Jewish financiers are playing for all the marbles which is why they are so intolerant of any static from people who aren’t on board with their grand scheme, which in turn is why they go to such extreme lengths to distort the truth and exaggerate any threat–real or imagined.

    Half of us wonder, “How can the Democratic Party get it so wrong? Over and over, wrong on everything?” But that question presupposes that, like a gyroscope, people have a tendency to right themselves after falling out of balance. But if that party thrives on unbalance, discord and disharmony–an idea that is unthinkable to well meaning people–then the question is a red herring. A decent person can never grasp the motives of a sociopath who truly enjoys murdering other, innocent people and in the same way, well-intentioned people cannot grasp why Jewish speculators would want to destroy their productive civilization or, for that matter, why they would support a party whose constituents wage war on beauty in public spaces.

    • Agree: GeeBee
  92. @Mefobills

    Athens vs. Jerusalem, right on target (as Aristotle would say).

    I minored in Classics (including having studied abroad in Greece) and came away with one–well two actually–thing. One is the amazingness of the achievements of Greek civilization.

    I studied everything from math through philosophy and politics to religion, myth, literature, art, pottery, weapons, seal rings and drama. Secondly is how dismally Americans (in particular) are of that immense treasure chest of knowledge. And this is, I think, by design. Instead, they learn about Moses, the Ten Commandments and the life of a failed Jewish messiah. What a waste. Their own rightful inheritance would enrich them so much more.

    I rack my brain, “Why would Indo-Europeans embrace a Semitic demi-god”? Why would a person prefer a crucifixion to the Discus Thrower?

    • Agree: GeeBee
    • Replies: @Mefobills
  93. @Radicalcenter

    All you have mentioned is nothing.
    We are coming close to the point when US government will have only one option. That option is to levy tax on investment income.

  94. @Mefobills


    I don’t know enough about the subject to comment myself, but I do know enough to recognize that your comments are almost always in a class of their own.

    • Agree: GeeBee
    • Thanks: Mefobills
  95. antibeast says:

    In a historical retrospect, when the Joint Communique of the United States of America and the People’s Republic of China appeared in 1972, it opened the door to long range planning on the corporate board room level. So that by 1979 diplomatic relations were reestablished and promptly after that, the new trade agreement created an estimated four billion dollars worth of revenue but manufacturing jobs here (USA) began to dwindle.

    What I am saying is that the ‘outsourcing’ of US manufacturing industries did NOT start with China, either in the 70s (which you falsely claimed) or in the 80s (after Deng’s market reforms) or in the 90s (after the USA imposed sanctions on China for Tiananmen). The joint-ventures established between US multinationals and Chinese enterprises, the biggest of which were in aerospace (McDonell Douglas), autos (American Motors), etc. during the 80s, fell apart due to US sanctions imposed on China after Tiananmen in 1989. The few US companies such as Motorola and Nike that continued to invest in China during the 90s did so because they wanted to access the Chinese market not to ‘outsource’ US manufacturing industries to China which came later after its accession to the WTO in 2001.

    Trump kept blaming China for allegedly ‘raping’ America while campaigning in the US Midwest, implying that China was somehow responsible for the deindustrialization of America. This is a false narrative as the biggest employer of blue-collar factory jobs in the USA during the pre-war period was the US auto industry centered in Detroit. But China does NOT export cars to the USA which lost its auto manufacturing industry to Canada and Mexico, along with the rest of the upstream industries (steel, aluminum, glass, rubber tires, plastics) and downstream industries (auto parts, machine tools, robotics). The fact of the matter is that US automakers could not compete against foreign automakers from Germany and Japan which are the two biggest exporters of cars in the world. THAT was the principal cause for the decline of the US auto manufacturing industry, together its associated upstream and downstream industries.

    • Replies: @elmerfudzie
  96. antibeast says:

    The low diversity level of China’s populace will mean that the gap between the US and China will be much less than American strategists think it is by the time a war breaks out sometime after 2040 and ends in a pyrrhic victory for the US before an armistice.

    Any war between China and the USA will go NUCLEAR which will result in the destruction of the USA. THAT is why the US Deep State does NOT want to go to war against China today. And you expect a war in 2040? Why 2040? Why not today? The US Empire won’t be around by then as its own debt burden will result in a financial implosion before 2040.

  97. anonlb says:

    French and russian revolution shows that only way to ‘rein’ old ruling class is to exterminate them. This solution is not acceptable for most of the people in regular conditions. You need to convince most of the people that current state is unaceptable, and solution is to eliminate ruling class, and also find large group capable as latvians and jews in Russian Empire which will spearhead uprising. And this will only work until new richies arises or foreign richies take control, which is usually far worse than keeping up with old ruling class.

  98. Rahan says:

    Yeah, I wish… Saiga and other Russian-made rifles were banned by Obama just about 7 years ago – executive order 13662.

    Christ. Well, thanks for the update, man.

  99. Smith says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Probably pork, but yes it does smell pretty bad. Like America.

  100. @Sean

    I quite agree until the last para. I don’t see globalism in the USA as ‘antiwhite’ but anti-everybody but the ruling elites. The common people will never not be seen as ‘redundant’ anyome, until the oligarchs are disempowered, one way or another. In fact, as I boringly reiterate monotonously, I am quite certain that the parasite elites will seek to eliminate the ‘useless eaters’ because, in an age of automation (being pushed by the BBC among other perfidious elite disinformers)computerisation, robotisation and AI, they are no longer needed. Moreover their consumption is no longer necessary, either. All they are is a threat.
    As for diversity, under a benign regime, it would be a benefit. It is under a parasitic oligarchy, where Divide and Rule is paramount, that groups are set against each other. China with low diversity, and the USA, with high, could contribute different, complementary, strengths to humanity, because we, humanity as a whole, now need to work together to save our species, or else.

  101. @Rubicon

    Empires are generally not good things. The fall of the US Empire would disadvantage the ruling elites in the USA, but liberate the bottom 90%. All that is holding them back from seizing real ‘Freedom’ is the most successful mass brainwashing operation in history.

  102. @Alden

    Remarkably stupid and ignorant assertion by a brainwashed Yankee Doodle dum-dum.

  103. antibeast says:

    Chinese harmony and consensus means the weak are so submissive that they accept the dominance of the strong without question.

    That is the Orientalist view of Western hegemony which tries to paint itself as the sine-qua-non of human civilization. But history has proven that political stability and social order are necessary prerequisites of human civilizations without which economic growth. technological progress and cultural achievements are not possible. The history of Western hegemony is nothing more than a series of conflicts, between various rulers and their followers, over who gets to dominate and rule the rest. To paraphrase your own sentence, Western hegemony means the weak must submit to and accept the dominance of the strong.

    In contrast, Chinese harmony is based on consensus which manages group interests by harnessing individual interests into a collective whole as opposed to Western hegemony which is based on the conflict of interests by various parties contending for dominance which favors the strong over the weak. Chinese harmony implies the precedence of groups over individuals which protects the weak from the dominance of the strong.

    China obeys the ‘Laws of Heaven’ which protects the weak from the strong while the West follows the ‘Laws of the Jungle’ which favors the strong over the weak.

    • Agree: Mulga Mumblebrain
  104. moi says:

    China is a great civilization and is now resurgent. Americans, on the other hand, are schmucks who think they are Exceptional and that God Jr/Baby Jesus has blessed America. Totally gonzo.

    • Agree: Mulga Mumblebrain
  105. gT says:

    That Athens versus Jerusalem contest is similar to what was said about the Florentines versus the Venetians. The Florentines were humanists, who wanted people to be educated and progress, while the Venetians just wanted people to be kept down in their place. The popes subsequently were rated as being either humanist, adhering to the Florentine doctrine, or literally being Satanist, adhering to the Venetian doctrine.

    The Black Nobility of Venice, largely Jewish orientated, set up shop in Amsterdam before finally making the move to the City of London. Venice started off with some merchants who fled from Rome.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  106. Anonymous[737] • Disclaimer says:

    I’ll be damned one who gets it instead of waving ole glory and braying how wonderful capitalism is, the greatest problem in this country is the vast discrepancy in wealth, but that’s the way the nation was set up for the wealthy by the wealthy and like a cancer it spread through the whole system, and until that’s addressed nothing will change we can expect little but poverty and wars.

  107. R2b says:

    Very good presentation by Kerry Bolton!
    Always worth reading.

    • Agree: Arthur MacBride
  108. Mefobills says:

    I rack my brain, “Why would Indo-Europeans embrace a Semitic demi-god”? Why would a person prefer a crucifixion to the Discus Thrower?

    I wonder the same thing.

    My take: It seems that Christianity is at war with itself, as Athenian philosophy was inserted by the time of Christ. Some Athenian concepts also are found in the old testament. Modern Christianity has evolved to something that is not recognizable from the original, so to my mind this is a point of leverage against modernity.

    Modern Christians are demoralized, especially modern Judeo-Christians.

    The concept of “logos” is Athenian, where humanity is trying to figure out the meaning of life, to perfect itself, to become less of an animal and more like god. In this type of thinking god is not fully known, and is revealed by his creation – his universe.

    The first Christians were believers in reincarnation, which is a circular flow of time and being.

    Rebalancing civilization from growing debts is circular time. Rebalancing was transmitted into Christianity from Jeremiah’s narrative of King Zedekiah’s promise to cancel the people’s debts on the eve of war with Babylonia in 588 BC. Jeremiah, who was the king’s counselor, interpreted Babylonian King Nebuchadnezzar II subsequent defeat of Judea as punishment by the Lord for Zedekiah going back on his word and violating sacred law.

    What is the sacred law?: “You did not release (your people from their debts), so I will release sword, pestilence and famine! (Jeremiah: 17-22). By breaking Mosaic covenant with the lord, Zedekiah’s behavior condemned the land to destruction at the hands of Babylon. He did evil in the eyes of the Lord (2Kings 224:19f and Jeremiah 52.2f).

    Early Christianity had charitable debt forgiveness as a test of ones personal purity of soul and admissibility to heaven. This narrative gave the jubilee/liberty/deror proclamation key significance for biblical Israel’s (not the Zionist entity) on the national plane. In other words, deror decided the nation’s salvation or damnation.

    Does today’s Zionist entity now called Israel have deror proclamations, or does it do the opposite by indebting others (or killing them) to then steal their life energy, land, or assets?

    Isiah bridges the old testament to the new. The “third Isiah” around 400 BC (Isiah 61: 1-2), soon after the Laws of Leviticus, was inserted into the Bible rather than into governing Civil Law. In other words, it was put in the Bible to protect it, something like protection within a sacred document like a constitution. “These laws are immutable.”

    The below quote is hackneyed now, but in context to the times, there was a build up of debts – and the people of that era thought it was end times, especially when Jesus unrolled the scrolls.

    “The Sprit of the Sovereign Lord (Yaweh) is upon me, for the Lord has anointed me to preach good news (the gospel) to the poor. He has sent me to bind up the broken-hearted, to proclaim deror (liberty) for the captives and release for the prisoners, to proclaim the Year of the Lord’s favor and the day of vengeance of our god.

    Yaweh’s vengeance was against the Creditor Class, and had mercy for the indebted who were becoming slaves.

    The point of leverage is to convict modern Christianity, as it has evolved into a form that has no bearing on the original intent. I find it better to push a boulder down-hill, as the masses of people need narrative to operate and not malfunction. Judaism, especially Talmudic Judaism, is yet another diversion in the wrong direction.

    Ancient Greeks figured things out in an explosion of creativity, with their ethical logic system; the ancient near east civilizations – which had god kings, figured things out over long stretches of (circular) time.

    Rome, which is western, had a linear time basis, and its linear expanding debt claims became unpayable as new land could no longer be conquered. Eventually, Rome collapsed into the greatest depression, something the Ancient near east civilizations such as Babylon, Sumer, and Egypt had experience avoiding.

    Other Athenians in Christendom are the Dominican Catholic Schoolmen, such as St. Thomas Aquinas, who began teaching in 1256. He developed his own conclusions from Aristotelian premises, notably in the metaphysics of personality, creation, and Providence.

    As I sated earlier, Domincan Monks transmitted Athens to Germany, which made German labor and civilization high trust.

    • Thanks: Arthur MacBride
  109. Smith says:

    Holy shit, I just notice the OP’s book symbol is literally the Star of Chaos in Warhammer 40K.

  110. Mefobills says:

    Venice tapped into the Jewish Caravan East/West mechanism through the Arsinoe Canal.

    In 639 AD the Moslem ruler cleared the canal, which had been silted over.

    Attila holocausted Venice 452AD, which leveled the society. Attila slaughtered everyone except one or two hundred families who took refuge on the islands in the lagoon.

    The aristocracy was leveled, and everyone had to start again. Before Attila, Venice was part of the 17’th Province under Constantine. They weren’t Italian stock, nor were they Phoenician (Jew like), but most probably peoples from the Black Sea area.

    Venice used family partnerships for business, and were run under state regulations – something like fascism.

    When capital began accumulating, they used Collegenza system, where the working partner went to sea, and the investing partner stayed home. They both shared profits but losses belonged to the investing partner.

    This would be a non-usury system, where the investor doesn’t get to “take the ship” as collateral in the off-chance the sea did not produce a crop of fish or win in trade.

    When the Canal opened up after 639AD, it gave the Venetian’s access to the East (Jewish Caravan) gold silver ratio of 7:1, which was an extra 100 percent profit on exchange.

    So, this is maybe when the Venetian’s became Jew-like, where they became usurers on “trade.”

    From the East came spices, such as pepper, silks, gold weaved cloth, perfume, drugs, and gold. The West had silver, slaves, timber, iron to trade to the east.

    The slaves went to Moslem lands with Jewish slavers operating as middle-men.

    One might be able to trace Venice’s corruption to 1292-1303, the Tiepolo Querini Conspiracy, which attempted to define Venice’s leadership in a hereditary manner.

    The Doge straw voting system helped keep Oligarchy at bay.

    IN 1321 the control of Venice’s mint was in control of Quarantina body, who rigged things to only allow silver Grossi money, and thus benefit those holding Grossi.

    At around this time Venician women began to indulge in conspicuous consumption, to assert their sexual position in society. (Women are always a problem wanting luxury goods from foreign lands, thus upsetting trade balance.)

    Venice started really screwing European society by the late 1300’s. She exported Europe’s silver in vast amounts to Asia (the East). 13,200,000 Grossi per year or about 20,000 tons. This meant that European labor was working and dying in the silver mines, while Venetians were taking usury on the exchange rate, especially through the canal trade.

    In other words, Venetians became corrupted and Jew-like, and their money did not match production, but instead was taking sordid gain on others.

    I don’t find the Venetian’s as big actors on Amsterdam around 1500 AD, and then subsequent invention of finance capitalism. That was mostly a Jewish affair.

    By 1500 Venice was in decline and Portugal/Antwerp were rising. I’ve described how Marrano Jews arrived in Amsterdam, and that was through Antwerp initially.

    The rise of Amsterdam ended Venice tapping into the usury system of the gold/silver exchange rate.

    Bottom line, you don’t have to be Jewish to become corrupt. But it wasn’t the black nobility that was the main actors in Amsterdam. There may have been a few “Venetians” but they were small potatoes by 1500.

    If you follow the Jew, as I do, you can usually track corruption, as Jews are lead agents for mammon.

  111. @Mefobills


    I happened to see a reply by GeeBee to one of your (very many) erudite/informative posts like this one to the effect of — “Mefo, please crack on with writing the book.”

    Just wanting to second that request.
    Please collate your knowledge in a transmissable form. Maybe ask Ron Unz for space for an article, at least. Your great posts are in two days lost in the Commentariat columns …

    GeeBee has written something which I’m hoping to see here on UR also.

    Thanks for considering this request, Mefo, and best wishes.

    • Agree: GeeBee
  112. @antibeast

    Okay, I won’t split hairs about the “when” of outsourcing. Point being, finished product manufacturing in the U.S. has taken a back seat to steering our economy towards financialization aka making money from money. Robotics and 3D CAD/CAM manufacturing will only exacerbate the imbalances in international commerce when such high tech instruments enter the unskilled labor markets.

    FDR’s solution to putting the semi skilled and unskilled back to work with CCC may not work this time because paying for such a re employment program cannot be done in a financialized economy.
    I can only hope that a 0.01% micro-tax on all electronic transactions coupled with a heavier tax on the rich (over 300,000USD/year) will together, make a new CCC possible thus avoid hyper-inflating our USD. I had high hopes that the G-7 would agree to implement this economic policy across the entire Western Occident and USA but they did not. The survival of mutipolarity relies on a uniform taxation for the first world countries while actively promoting, strong labor unionization in second and third world countries via organizations such as the Industrial Workers of the World. In any case, even if a treaty among all G7 +Russia, (yes, back to G-8) is set in stone, all these various ideas about uniform taxation and labor rights may not be sufficient necessitating UBI and Medicare for All (United States National Health Care Act) but this action must be done throughout the Western Occident, perhaps beyond…

    Lastly, this proposal is not socialism, it is fairness and promotes an equanimity that will put an end to the likelihood of a third world war.

  113. @obwandiyag

    jail the rich

    Based on your own absurd and pathetic school-level debating and critical skills, don’t you think you should attempt to follow at least your own advice by actually clarifying, specifying and itemizing:

    WHICH “rich” – PRECISELY ?

    HOW “rich” – PRECISELY ?

    Jail the “rich” for what – PRECISELY ? For being “Rich” ?

    I think you should stop commenting here. Every comment of yours which I read makes me more sure that you are a retard.

  114. @Knucklehead

    … nuclear war… let the appropriate nation(s) rise to the top


    I have an idea you’ve rather missed the drawback to your brilliant solution.

    Perfect handle, though.

  115. @gT


    You see… The problem here is that you’re insisting on using LOGIC !

  116. gkruz says:

    Oh, wow, in Hungary you can choose from one of SIX vaccines with which to destroy your immune system! Based!

  117. @elmerfudzie

    I saw a short vid from China where miners, whose mine had been closed because polluting, had been retrained as tree planters and ecological restorers. No sign of dissatisfaction at their new life, planting trees, tending to them, letting the goats and sheep in to keep down the weeds etc. Fresh air, not ‘black lung’.
    Meanwhile in Austfailia, the dumbest and greediest country on Earth, miners REFUSE to give up coal-mining. The thought of retraining in the tourist industry fills them with rage, possibly because tourist workers get such shit money compared to miners. But miners are just a few thousand, and the mines are rapidly being automated. No thought is given to the climate repercussions for agriculture and tourism, with scores of times more jobs at risk. Why, of course, ‘climate change’ does not exist. It’s all a ‘latte-sipping Greenie’ plot. And all these miners have children and grand-children who will, one day, curse them for their ‘work’.

    • Replies: @elmerfudzie
    , @GomezAdddams
  118. Anonymous[191] • Disclaimer says:

    To very tiny degree. Yes, it was mentioned.

    Here is a man with no sense of proportion.

    • Replies: @Franz
  119. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Mulga Mumblebrain, can you post the webpage that showed the vid about Chinese miners? I’d like to view it. Your comments are appreciated

  120. Franz says:

    Here is a man with no sense of proportion.

    Because the Trump Administration talked a good line, then allowed US jobs to go offshore to Mexico and China anyway?

    Trump talked like a patriot and let international finance do as it damn pleased, like the rest of them. Pretending otherwise makes no sense.

  121. gT says:

    Yep, Venetians became corrupt and Jew like, they never produced anything, just acted as middle men in trade between the East and the West. You indeed definitely don’t have to be Jewish to become corrupt.

    The Jews are blamed for everything, this is correct, they are indeed despicable parasites. But the Jews don’t act alone, they are aided by the elite in the West. Some believe that these elite in the West are just those who follow the Venetian traditions, which are Babylonian in origin (baby killing, eating and pedophilia).

    Venetians weren’t Christian, they described themselves as Venetian first and Christian second. Their symbol is the winged lion, that ancient emblem originates in the East, either from Persia or from China, Babylon perhaps? Ok, they call it St Mark’s banner to try and show that they are Christian.

    Similarly, another city state called Genoa has as its symbol St George the dragon slayer, another symbol of pre Christian pagan origins, from the Middle East, Babylon perhaps? Then the English flag, the flag of the City of London, the Union Jack, all prominently feature the cross of St George. Genoa was initially the enemy of Venice, but then they became good buddies.

    The reason that the Venetians were so Jew like is because of their Babylonian origins, the Doges had harems and the like. Bank of Saint George, founded in 1407 in Genoa, is one of the oldest banks in Europe and of the world. This bank preceded the Bank of Amsterdam by 200 years. Finance doesn’t follow national borders, as you are well aware. Money goes to where it is more profitable, to Portugal and Antwerp perhaps, and then to the Bank of Amsterdam (founded 1609). On wikipedia it even mentions that “Unusually for its time, the Bank [of saint George] made use of a number of Jewish agents, including the Ghisolfi clan that managed certain possessions around the Black Sea.”

    The Republic of Venice existed from 697 AD until 1797 AD, a thousand years is more than enough time to get their hands into every pie everywhere. The possibility exists that these elites in the West who work hand in glove with the Jews at present, are of the Venetian tradition. Some point out that the depopulation agenda isn’t Jewish, it comes from the Club of Rome. Even the Kalergi plan is said to be Venetian in origin, those controlling families in Venice didn’t want others too capable around them, they wanted people to be kept down in their place and groveling in poverty at all times, grateful for any handout. Ca’ Vendramin Calergi is a 15th-century palace on the Grand Canal in Venice, it was once the home of Count Coudenhove-Kalergi, the founder of the Pan European Union, precursor to the European Union and the One World Government? Certainly the enemies of humanity are well entrenched in the upper echelons everywhere, and they are not just the Jews, the Venetian factor deserves consideration.

    (The City of London and the Vatican are the only 2 entities that exist completely independently in the capital cities of other countries, ignore embassies, those can be closed down)

  122. @obwandiyag

    You can get ivermectin at any farm store the dose should be on the back per hundred weight. I would recommend the drench version as opposed to the injectable.

  123. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Hey–you crazy Ozzies are attempting to level the Western Foothills in Canada–to ghet that black coal. Alberta is where this is happening and Alberta stands to get an incredible 1 billion in coal royalites in 23 years time. What a deal since the province today is `103 Billion in Debt —-but in 23 years it is going to drop by 1 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  124. @Sarah

    Just try to get a white boy to cancel Netflix. Try to get a boomer off of Faceberg. It’s very difficult.

  125. @obwandiyag

    What you are looking for is “Mein Kampf”.

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