Lesson #1. The corporate media wants everyone to think it’s a neutral “mainstream media”. It is not, so don’t be a fool a refer to the corporate media as the MSM.

There’s a massive gap in the market for print newspapers and magazines, radio and TV stations, web magazines and social network sites for those of alt-right, white nationalist, civic nationalist, palaeoconservative, identitarianist etc views. The Business of America is Business, as Mr Coolidge said. So I would expect enterprising individuals and groups to be setting up such entities within the next few months. It must be the way forward.
This is the biggest opportunity since the fall of Communism in Eastern Europe in the 1990s to set up new media outlets and destroy the old regime’s propaganda mouthpieces. Lets call it creative destruction, except this time the neocons and neolibs won’t be smirking.

I would expect enterprising individuals and groups to be setting up such entities within the next few months

Don’t you need a lot of eyeballs and ears to make all of those new outlets a success?

Great read, Mr. Kirkpatrick! Thank you!

Not being Donald Trump, but especially not being Steve Bannon fanboys is the key to Make America truly Great Again… in my humble opinion.

Ann Coulter is doing a great job of putting pressure on Trump, Bannon, et al.

Whatever their plan is, it’s not going to work — there’s this thing called the internet…

The Narrative Donald, the Narrative…. Search your feelings, you know it to be true!

Come with me and together we will rule the world from Cultmarx headquarters.

Nobody who employs the term thinks of the MSM as neutral. “Mainstream” doesn’t mean “neutral.” MSM is an effective nickname mainly because it mocks bureaucrat-speak, with its endless, blunt acronyms. But also because it pinpoints what we want to talk about, which is the media that reaches the most people. What’s seen as the conventional, normal media. The fact that this gets confused with neutrality is part of the point of sending them up.

You can point out the corporate nature of the MSM if you like. Corporate Media is a great and useful term. But in no way does the term MSM conceal or take away from that angle of attack. Corporations are bureaucracies, after all.

This – about modern media, its importance and the mechanisms at work – might be of interest: http://folk.ntnu.no/tronda/articles/media-dynamics.pdf

From day one, the MSM tried to destroy Donald Trump, including his business empire, because of his stated views on immigration.

No, from day one the MSM used Trump to sell papers. Remember TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP, around the clock, until he won the nomination. Then, like Dr. Frankenstein, they pursued their creature continually trying desperately to destroy it.

http://robertmagill.wordpress.com

Time for President Trump to do some Trust-Busting. Break up Big Media, and follow that with breaking up Big Banking, Big Defense, Big Accounting, and Big Labor.

Hey, the Empire Media and Feminism, Inc. wanted a fight, they got a fight. Now, those they hate own the 3 branches of government and there MAY be a reckoning. If they want to fight some more, if they continue to be obnoxious (we expected tantrums, those need to end), if they refuse to let well enough alone, let’s fight some more. We were always stronger, their strength came from White men after all. Sometimes, every generation or two, grown men need to assume the reigns. The children need to sit outside of the arena, they’ve done enormous damage. Didn’t know we still had it in us.

Gab.ai knows how to do it. They told those unamerican faggots to wait their turn.

A sad state of affairs indeed. Unless Donald Trump remains true to his election promises and completely drains the swamp of corruption, the old oligarchy, which includes the neocons who own the MSM, will continue to have their stranglehold over government. Witness John Bolton being considered for Secretary of State. Is he not the darling of the neoconservatives. It is too early yet, but I’m beginning to lose hope.

Commuting in to work today (7 December 2017, “A day that will live in infamy.”) I heard NPR (the dimocrat/federal “fake news” radio network) use the “fake news” meme when reporting that the Dana Farber Cancer Institute had temporarily canceled all advertising when they discovered, quel horreur!, they had an ad spot on Breitbart.

All three of the MSM (“fake news”) strategies on display in a fifteen second news spot!

I enjoy the discomfiture and often rage of anti-Trump folks when I point out to them that the major reason for their post-election hysterics was that they were absolutely sure Clinton would win; that this certainty was because they were ill-informed; and that they were ill-informed because their information providers ill-served them with lies and illusions.

Two weeks before the election I was writing to pro-Trump friends that the election would be close but I had high hopes that Trump would win. I always added the prediction that before the Tuesday election night was over we would see MSM talking heads openly crying on television. Most agreed with my assessment of the situation.

After noting these facts, I suggest that my pro-Trump friends and I made well-informed predictions of the the election’s outcome because we were better informed than the Clinton partisans who all relied on misleading news sources. Our sources of information provide a better picture of reality than the MSM. Put another way, the Drudge Report, the Unz Review, Breitbart, etc., are “real news” sources and the MSM are demonstrably purveyors of “fake news”.

The Empire Strikes Back: The MSM’s 3-Point Plan to Recapture the Narrative

It appears that the author of the piece has already been “captured” by the corporate media. It’s apparent in his use of “MSM.”

It’s perfectly clear to anyone with the intelligence of an ice cube that “MSM” itself is a misnomer and that it’s a subtle way of hinting that corporate media is somehow acceptable to the masses.

It’s a relatively new phrase and that should tell us something. Thanks to Google, we have a graph of word and phrase frequency over time.:

https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=mainstream+media&year_start=1800&year_end=2000&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2Cmainstream%20media%3B%2Cc0

Note: I did not get beyond the title because anyone who uses the term,”MSM” seriously is not to be taken seriously.

My concern is the left converging the high level internet backbone providers. They quietly just start dropping traffic to and from certain addresses.

The fake news is from the lying LSM and it goes back a long way, long before Katie Couric and her plagiarism, before Dan Rather and his fake hit piece on Bush, all the way back to the sinking of the Maine in Cuba and probably before that. After all, we are told the war of secession, more commonly known by the lie, “the civil war”, was about slavery. It was not, and Lincoln and the North started the illegal and unconstitutional war.

There is plenty of fake news right on Unz. We get barraged by it from the lying commie Tom Englehardt and others. It is a difficult path to pick through and no one can be certain that anything they read or hear is actually true.

If Trump can declare Twitter a utility to destroy them, perhaps the same needs to be done to Google. We also need to re-instate the laws that no news outlet can be foreign owned and I think no newspaper or broadcaster could be jointly owned. Disney and other movie companies should not own a broadcaster or be banned from having news programs and required to only do entertainment. We also need to find a way to get corporations and money out of politics. They can’t vote they should not be able to give money or effect a campaign in any way.

James Kirkpatrick

Unfortunately, Vdare.com for many years played a variation of the “LET THE RACE-REPLACEMENT ENTHUSIASTS DEFINE THE TERMS OF THE DEBATE GAME”.

Years and years of mind-numbing PISA scores-IQ test score mad calibrator policy wonkery debate with an enemy who openly desires our racial extermination.

For years, Vdare.com has been making the policy wonk case for getting the right kind of nonwhite legal immigrants into the US…..Asian legal immigrants. What else are we to make of Steve Sailer’s recent blizzard of posts about PISA scores-at time when Chinese and Hindu “Americans” are voting The Historic Native Born White American Majority into a racial minority in post-White Toilet “America”.

Alt-Media vs MSM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CKqan61Mmg

Nobody who employs the term thinks of the MSM as neutral.

Maybe so, but the term is clearly used to neutralize dissent and increase acceptance regarding the trash corporate media presents.

Since we seem to be talking in terms of nobody and everybody here, I’ll add that everybody knows that nobody wants to be left out of what’s been certified as mainstream. Everyone wants to be “in” and what could be more “inner” than “mainstream? The term is obviously meant to make pure propaganda (and worse) seem acceptable.

Since it’s not, don’t use it, please.

The fake news is from the lying LSM and it goes back a long way, long before Katie Couric and her plagiarism, before Dan Rather and his fake hit piece on Bush, all the way back to the sinking of the Maine in Cuba and probably before that.

No “probably” about it.

How did that apple come to get nibbled in de Garden?

And to show that the vaunted US is no exception (note the date).:

“You know well that [the British] government always kept a kind of standing army of news writers who without any regard to truth, or to what should be like truth, invented & put into the papers whatever might serve the minister. This suffices with the mass of the people who have no means of distinguishing the false from the true paragraphs of a newspaper.”

Thomas Jefferson, letter to G. K. van Hogendorp, Paris, Oct. 13, 1785

One can’t go too far wrong by following the guidance of the immortal Senator Jesse Helms who said “I don’t care what the New York Times says about me, and no one I care about cares what the New York Times says about me.”

Not your best, Mr. Kirkpatrick, disjointed, but I am generally to liking your articles.

I pasted the list of ‘fake news’ sites into a text editor, but had to reboot and forget to save it first, can assure you that Unz.com was on the list, among many other sensible sites.

If Twitter bans him, as Leftists are urging, he should nationalize it as a utility and make it a free speech zone.

Amen. He should nationalize the FED and the so called health care system while he’s at it. By the way. I can remember when the whole country was a free speech zone.

set up new media outlets and destroy the old regime’s propaganda mouthpieces

If you think the new media outlets will give you real and truthful reporting then you are deluded, it is just another obfuscation like the pigs in the Orwellian’s Animal Farm, by the time the new media outlets win their war, they will behave exactly the same like the old MSM they destroyed to protect their turf, status quote, the interests, the way of life or the greasy troughs.

Anybody does not tolerate difference or different opinions they are the pigs in the Orwellian’s Animal Farm, the old regime’s propaganda mouthpieces.

James, great piece but you forgot to mention how dumb it is for alleged White Nationalists like Spencer or David Duke to hand their heads to the libs. It is our heads actually..and our children’s.

I agree…never talk to our enemies.

Spencer and Duke sacrifice White heads for 15 days or years just for their own egos. The vanity factor in Duke is well known. With Spencer, he is now proclaiming his homosexuality status and tells everybody ‘to get used to it.’ Never mind the nazi Show, neo or Whatever.

WN needs to go back into the closet and figure out how to come out again in more Normal appearance, shorn of weird haircuts and the props of Springtime for Hitler.

Joe Webb

by the time the new media outlets win their war, they will behave exactly the same like the old MSM

Probably because they’ll be co-opted one way or another by the usual suspects.

What fake news hit piece did Rather do on Bush the Deranged? They reported he was AWOL from his Texas NG post, and it was true Georgie went AWOL to avoid the flight physical, which included an urinalysis.
That the Bush Machine fought back and helped change the narrative to it’s CBS’s fault for some typo doesn’t change the fact Bush the Deranged was AWOL during the Vietnam War and his Daddy helped cover his ass.

“But today, the main source of power is control of information.”

‘Control’ of information I guess is the operative word here. Still, while it is very important, somehow the US, as well as Europe, Whites have discovered our dispossession process.

The role of the Internet has been immense in helping folks understand what is happening to White people and White culture and society.

While immersed in the ‘Media,’ regardless of one’s politics, the Media seems to be all important. This is normal but surely it should be seen as distorting lens on reality.

Whites , like other people, mostly pay attention to their immediate environment, from paychecks to neighborhoods, schools, and most importantly, race.

The spectacle of sanctuary cities and their feral critters particularly comes to mind. The lib media likes to feature them, with the consequence that white people are forced to come to terms with the official lawlessness, and their, again, dispossession by illegals, etc.

Again, Whites have and are awakening….despite The Media, and in part , because of it. How many photos of ugly folks doing ugly things does it take to re-mind anyone? Etc.

Arguably the Media is responsible in large part for the Trump Awakening. (this is not an complete endorsement of Trump….he is a bit of a wild card for sure, and continues to softly beat the drum of race equality, promising to Fix the ghettos, etc. Joke. )

The jewyorktimes has dug its own grave, and thank the gods for that.

Joe Webb

This is always their modus operandi. They go along with the process in order to make sure the most vulnerable Republican gets nominated. Then right after the Democratic convention, they “discover” all these harmful things about the Republican nominee, and they time their stories in order to cut him off at the ankles. The idiot cuckservatives fell for this every time. Trump told them to stuff a sock in it. And he prevailed. The last time I looked, the MSM was walking around with a sock hanging out of their mouth.

I absolutely do not think of the corporate media as neutral, but they still by far reach most people so they are MSM.

It’s called “clickbait.”

Why don’t you do some research about why Rather and his producer was fired from their positions on 60 Minutes? I don’t like Bush either, but deranged? No. A RINO snake in the grass? You bet!

Nice try, but no.

http://www.conservapedia.com/Mainstream_media

In the circles I escaped, “MSM” was favored as a term of dissent because it’s also an acronym for “men who have sex with men.”

The “Big Six”:

http://www.frugaldad.com/media-consolidation-infographic/

Mr. Kirkpatrick observes three strategies:

–pathologize dissent
–use the label of “fake news” to shut down dissident news sites
–accelerate and expand repression

This actually parses as one strategy: identifying, targeting, hounding, and destroying anyone who dissents from the Narrative Cathedragogue, shoring up the latter’s power/control.

The writing has been on the wall since Bill Clinton signed the Telcoms Act of 1996, whose Title 3 allowed cross ownership of media, therefore consolidation.

This was designed by cable investor corporations and the infotainment and propaganda sectors to shore up centralization of control, both of content and delivery. Make the network big enough, with high enough up-front costs, and only big players will play. Then redefine acceptable content (interracial rape porn or calls to kill police officers or white people resulting in death is acceptable, for instance, but political dissent from people who vote for Donald Trump/reject Hillary Clinton is not).

The three categories of broadband control–intermodal, intramodal, and independent–were created precisely (some of us thought) to make it clear that smaller players were not only not welcome, they were targeted for destruction.

Today’s “fake news” and “hate speech” drumbeat is a deliberate effort to extend TCA 96’s foot in the door on censoring content. This was contained in its Title 5, the Communications Decency Act.

A view at the time:

http://www.oswego.edu/~messere/telcom4.html

At the time, the Dem left/progs lined up to revile TCA 96, while the MSM ignored it mostly.

Today the Dem left/progs are firmly in the camp of consolidation, repression, and silencing. I think it was Eduardo Galeano who said of TCA 96, “Never were so many held so incommunicado by so few.”

Without taking into account the Vatican element, one cannot fully understand the logic of Invade the World/Invite the World , in my opinion.

– https://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/trump-vs-the-real-nuts-the-gop-uniparty-establishment/#comment-1630050

The Vatican-Zionist alliance just got one of their own nominated for Secretary of Homeland Security. Maybe he is not as bad as Michael McCaul, but still…

Apparently, General John Kelly is best friends with General Joseph Dunford, who is a ‘fervent Catholic,’ so I assume he is too:

As assistant commandant in 2010, it was Dunford who delivered to Kelly the news that his son, 1st Lt. Robert Kelly, had been killed in Afghanistan. To say that these two are tight would diminish the extraordinary nature of their relationship. They’ve known one another for more than 30 years, since they were lieutenants.

“He is my friend,” Kelly told Marine Corps Times. “My best friend.”
[…]
Despite the many profiles that have been written about him, he avoids press exposure and interviews. In his private life, he’s a laid-back family man and fervent Catholic,

– http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/archives/2014/06/10/quiet-brawler-everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-next/78547606/

Ana Navarro seems to be happy about the appointment; via Twitter:

Ana Navarro Verified account
‏@ananavarro

Ana Navarro Retweeted Dan Lamothe

Hope this is true. Gen. Kelly is a no-nonsense Marine. Served & sacrificed for our country his whole life. Hell of a lot better than Kobach!

– https://twitter.com/ananavarro/status/806526950873436161

Ana Navarro’s One-Woman Revolt Against Donald Trump

Her father stayed behind to fight the Communist government as part of a rebel force called the Contras, which had the lavish backing of the United States. As a child, she watched Ronald Reagan on television, and thrilled to his hawkish support for the Nicaraguan “freedom fighters” like her father. “That was it,” she told me. “Signed, sealed, and delivered for Ronald Reagan and the Republican Party.” These days almost all Republicans tout the legacy of Reagan, but most are in thrall to the Party’s aura of strength during the twilight of the Cold War, rather than to its moderation. In 1986, Reagan signed a massive immigration-reform bill into law under which 2.7 million undocumented immigrants became citizens—a Republican-led effort of the sort that is inconceivable today. […]

Navarro’s centrist conservatism was shaped by the Miami of her youth, where Republicans mostly spoke English with accents, and anti-Castroism and fiscal conservatism were compatible with a flexible approach to social issues and immigration politics. […]

“At some point I remember what the Sacred Heart nuns told me,” she said about her Catholic education. “Don’t give it away for free.”

– http://www.newyorker.com/culture/persons-of-interest/ana-navarro-and-the-p-word

How about the U.S. starts being hawkish on immigration enforcement and dovish/moderate on foreign interventionism for a change…

Disengage from the World/Disinvite the World

This seems like a good place to mention a theory of mine. I think the reason we find the click of a button, both the sound and the feeling, so satisfying a feedback mechanism in so many user-interface mechanisms is because it simulates the effect of crushing a bug, the moment its exoskeleton gives way and our finger or thumb slams down on the opposing surface.

http://radiotvtalk.blog.ajc.com/2016/12/07/black-employees-file-class-action-lawsuit-against-cnn/

Uh oh, Lib media attacked by blacks as ‘racist’.

… banned from having news programs and required to only do entertainment

Who decides what is news and what is entertainment?

Like I said,

Note: I did not get beyond the title because anyone who uses the term,”MSM” seriously is not to be taken seriously.

But even if non-MSN media were indeed somehow connected with Russia, what is wrong with that by itself? The Alt-Right or whoever there seem to be more enraged that they have been accused of connections with Russia and their principal rebuttal is that they have no real connections whatsoever, but they don’t even raise an issue that in the West it’s become a norm that the very fact that someone is connected to Russia makes anybody an illegal persecuted hated outcast. Why does nobody see this utter Russophobia which somehow resembles much the worst forms of real racism? I already feel myself like a Jew in the Third Reich. How long will it be before anti-Russian pogroms actually start? In the media space anti-Russian pogroms are running wild already. The haven’t build media concentration camps yet, but they have issued blacklists already.

Bezos is good at spotting opportunities. He could sack his Washington Post newsroom and get a new lot to write Trump favourable articles. He would be broadening the WaPo’s appeal and also getting preferential access.

Murdoch did the same in 1981 when Thatcher won the UK premiership, and it worked out well for both of them. He got the Times and Sunday Times and she got her MSM propagandist.

This is the biggest threat. Once the forums of free speech and dissidence get shut down, the real party will begin. I imagine it will be a lot like what happened in USSR during Stalin’s purges. People will just disappear. No one will talk about it, there wont be anywhere to talk about it.

Not one I identify with, entomology being one of my hobbies and bugs doing a lot of the work of keeping me from having to use farm chemicals.

In fact the psychological engineering of button-interfaces has more to do with neural feedback connections between tactical, auditory, visual, and pleasure cortical regions. Not everyone is hardwired the same on this.

The internet isn’t invincible. No electricity, no internet. No server access, no internet. Loss of permissions, no internet.

Once ISP’s start censoring sites the government declares “dangerous” or belonging to a group declared as “racist” or some other pretense, then we know we lost. The constitution is only a paper shield, and it keeps getting in the way of our elites who want more power.

Lol. O’Keefe has bonafide greatness, but lil chameolonBen? Scorched earth NeverTrump 6 weeks ago, but somehow relevant now? More boilerplate on muh Constitution while remaining blind to the consequences of his Invade the World / Invite the World advocacy (including msm, neocon suppression of paleocons). Does being GOPe mean a lifepass on dumb? With apologies to Stewart Copeland, here’s a repurposed 1983 ditty. A salute to Benworld, as sung by Kevin Williamson, backing vocals by Egg McMuffin-

Most of the world has already lost freedom of speech. It has been curtailed in the name of protecting minorities from ‘hate speech’.

The USA may well be the last bastion at this point. Even a website like Unz Review would likely be shut down in Australia, Canada or the EU nations.

The US is fortunate that their guarantee of free speech was made very explicit and enshrined in the constitution. If the elites are successful at chipping away at this freedom it will be very dangerous for the entire world.

Any attempts to take away freedom of speech need to be met with aggressive pushback. There is a lot at stake.

Exactly. Twitter will stay twittery, and no one has influence over it. Renegades and trailblazers will remain avant garde and invisible.

No sense reacting in a hostile or authoritarian manner. That would only fuel the fire that will soon burn out all by itself. Let the leftists who think they have the only megaphone continue their strong arm tactics. The election of Trump and the massive decline in readership of liberal newspapers is a situation they obviously still cannot fathom, and one that they cannot dig themselves out of unless the right does something truly stupid, like turning authoritarian on them. To do so would be to make the same mistake the left made.

Media Empire says Mark Dice is also ‘fake news’.

The US is fortunate that their guarantee of free speech was made very explicit and enshrined in the constitution. If the elites are successful at chipping away at this freedom it will be very dangerous for the entire world.

Any attempts to take away freedom of speech need to be met with aggressive pushback. There is a lot at stake.

Understatement. Once freedom of speech becomes explicitly restricted in an effort to protect a preferred narrative of the establishment, it could easily lead to war. Once a critical mass no longer believes official “news” & that all official information is essentially psy-ops to pacify, people will assume that we have essentially suffered a silent coup d’etat.

Piss poor is what this latest James K’s items is.

He must be out to lunch…

Couldn’t read it, bad prose, doesn’t sound like Kirkpatrick.

Somebody called it: disjointed, amen unreadable is another term for ya.

As I said in a previous entry, in the self-appointed democracies of the putrid West, the media do not report any news.

They just read or print whatever prepared transcripts are handed to them by their government/masters.

You see, in the Prople’s Democratic Republic of Korea they do the same, because the PDRK is Democratic too. There is a kinship.

Ditto me on all of that.

To me it was very obvious that most polls were utter BS, they contradicted each other on a daily basis, and were using biased sampling.

And of course there was that miserable hag Hillary. A self righteous grumpy, Marxist lesbian if there ever was one.

BTW, NPR should be defunded.

There are 3,141 counties in the United States. Trump won 3,084 of them. Clinton won 57.

Three Million Votes in Presidential Election Cast by Illegal Aliens
http://www.infowars.com/report-three-million-votes-in-presidential-election-cast-by-illegal-aliens/

great pro Trump video by Paul Joseph Watson:

Yes. Mr. Udo Ulfkotte,
You are right!
President Trump
Drain the swamp!

No, from day one the MSM used Trump to sell papers

I don’t believe this for a moment. The feverish atmosphere in the Washington Post and New York Times newsrooms had everything to do with a select group of Counter Cultural leftist editors and journalists engaging in an all out (anti-White) culture war, with their owners orchestrating the project.

Time for President Trump to do some Trust-Busting. Break up Big Media, and follow that with breaking up Big Banking, Big Defense, Big Accounting, and Big Labor.

He’s given a warning to Big Pharma on drug prices and teachers unions on school choice which seem like good places to start.

But it’s interesting that the Counter Cultural left prefer to retain the historical Anglo American exterior names and form of their propaganda tools (Washington Post, New York Times, NPR etc.)

That way, it’s easier to claim to be the respectable centre (main stream) of US opinion while feeding through their counter cultural (counter Anglo) message.

Same with Congress, Senate and the Supreme Court that are all awarded the respect that they have gained historically while having recently morphed into something entirely different.

Thanks for confirming my suspicions, Sir!

Note to all scribblers.: Like I said above, anyone who uses mass media’s term, “MSM,” for itself in a serious or non-satirical manner cannot be taken seriously.

As I said in a previous entry, in the self-appointed democracies of the putrid West, the media do not report any news.

They just read or print whatever prepared transcripts are handed to them by their government/masters.

True.

In 1920 Upton Sinclair wrote a fine book, “The Brass Check,” detailing the outrages of American journalism and the media.

The media was pure hogwash then, and it’s worse now. He would have agreed with Twain, a journalist and newspaper editor himself who (echoing Thomas Jefferson),purportedly said, “if you don’t read the papers, you’re uninformed; if you do read them, you’re misinformed.”

A quarter of a million Americans buy [The New York Times] every day, and form their whole view of life from its columns. And never a day out of more than ten thousand days that this newspaper has not subtly and cunningly distorted the news of the world in the interest of special privilege.

– UPTON SINCLAIR, THE CRIMES OF THE “TIMES” A Test of Newspaper Decency, 1921

Here’s the Jefferson quote regarding newspapers that I alluded to above.

I will add, that the man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them; inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods & errors. He who reads nothing will still learn the great facts, and the details are all false.

Thomas Jefferson, Letter to John Norvell (14 June 1807)

http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/print_documents/amendI_speechs29.html

Yeah, yeah, I know he was a liberal, slave-owning, constitutionalist and office holder, but he was right about a lot of things including the media of his day.

Can you call something mainstream when it has less than 5% of the population watching it? I think time has passed these dinosaurs behind. Oh sure that plan to censor the net seems like a good idea. Kind of like putting the lid on a pressure cooker down tight when its already past the point of blowing up.
At this point, the lamebrain niche status whoring media can either go out of business or burn down. Being relevant stopped being an option in the 20th Century.

Excellent. Breaking up all the monopolies would free all the people from their predatory grasp. Every economic good or service of substance, including information, would quickly become better, faster, and cheaper.

You apparently have a lot more faith in the non-commercial aspect of the MSM than I do. I recall all shades of media on the Trump meme all year long for it’s cash value.

MSM is not “communist” or “leftist” or “progressive”. They destroyed Bernie with almost as much enthusiasm as they smashed Trump. And Hillary is emphatically not “progressive”. Her agenda is indistinguishable from Bush’s agenda. Pure neocon.

It’s not about ideology, it’s just gang loyalty. Soros rules the universe, and Hillary was the Soros front this year. When Soros picks a new front, MSM will switch loyalty to the new front.

Legacy media? Controlled media?

Sure, they just “accidentally” forged those documents. Uh huh.

Lighten up, Francis.

“Disengage from the World/Disinvite the World”

Perhaps a little clunky. How about “Don’t bomb ’em over there; don’t bring ’em over here.”

DSM Dark Side Media?

They supported the WMD and “9/11 fire collapse stories + every ME war + Homeland Security + the Patriot Act and the NSA.

So what’s your point? Catholics shouldn’t be allowed to join the military and become generals or die in combat?
Your insane babbling about the Vatican /Jewish conspiracies has gotten you banned from a lot of conservative and White advocacy sites.

Gee, doesn’t take much to make you lose hope, does it? Unqualified, 100% victory or it’s all for nothing, huh?

Limp noodle boy, or shill?

“If you’re not catching flak you’re not over the target” […]

Please prove these (false) accusations!

FKA MAX has been banned from s lot of sites because of his more insane anti Catholic ideas. Here are a couple.

Inquisition much, sir!?

Unfortunately he won’t go away until banned but he she or its best ignored […] He, she or it won’t go away unless banned but responding just leads to more posts and endless links to his previous posts.

– https://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/trump-vs-the-real-nuts-the-gop-uniparty-establishment/#comment-1634141

Why don’t you follow you own advice, and just ignore me, Alden?

I’d advise not responding to FKA MAX’s nonsense about the Catholic Church.

– https://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/trump-vs-the-real-nuts-the-gop-uniparty-establishment/#comment-1634065

Typo: Why don’t you follow *your* own advice, and just ignore me, Alden?

Why do you think U.S. Marines died and were stationed in Lebanon, Alden? Against the advice of some of President Reagan’s advisors.

U.S. President Ronald Reagan called the attack a “despicable act”[67] and pledged to keep a military force in Lebanon. U.S. Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger, who had privately advised the administration against stationing U.S. Marines in Lebanon,[68] said there would be no change in the U.S.’s Lebanon policy.

– https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Beirut_barracks_bombings#American_and_French_response

I personally believe those Marines were there to protect Vatican interests in that part of the world – which includes Jerusalem and by extension Israel – not to protect American interests:

Lebanon is the most religiously diverse country in the Middle East.[178] As of 2014 the CIA World Factbook estimates the following: Muslim 54% (27% Shia Islam, 27% Sunni Islam), Christian 40.5% (includes 21% Maronite Catholic, 8% Greek Orthodox, 5% Melkite Catholic, 1% Protestant, 5.5% other Christian), Druze 5.6%, very small numbers of Jews, Baha’is, Buddhists, Hindus and Mormons.[179]

– https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanon#Religion

Oliver ”Iran-Contra” North for example was raised Catholic, but is now a born-again Christian, but still maintains close connections with the Catholic Church/Vatican […]

Asked about North as a keynote speaker, the Franciscan Foundation for the Holy Land issued the following statement that said North “is an expert on the region. He is also a committed Christian who knows the purpose and intentions of the Church community worldwide; and he is committed to educating our dinner guests about peace with all people of good will who respect the dignity of every human being.”

– https://www.ncronline.org/news/peace-justice/oliver-north-raise-money-franciscan-holy-land-foundation

– https://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/trump-vs-the-real-nuts-the-gop-uniparty-establishment/#comment-1630050

Why are there and why do they want more U.S. troops in the Democratic Republic of the Congo? Again, I believe, because it benefits the Vatican:

STUTTGART, Germany — The U.S. should send a 5,000-strong security assistance brigade to the Democratic Republic of the Congo to help stabilize a country ravaged by more than a decade of war, a prominent U.S. military analyst recommends.

In a “memorandum” to President Barack Obama, Michael O’Hanlon of the Brookings Institution also urges the White House to send several hundred military advisers to Libya to help train that country’s fledgling armed forces.

– http://www.stripes.com/news/defense-expert-calls-for-thousands-of-us-troops-in-africa-1.264739

O’Hanlon sounds like a pretty Celtic-Catholic name to me… he seems to be a Catholic Neocon…

O’Hanlon signed a letter and a statement on postwar Iraq published by the Project for the New American Century.[17][18]

– https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_E._O%27Hanlon#Letter_by_Project_for_the_New_American_Century

There are about 35 million Catholics in the country[1] with six archdioceses and 41 dioceses.[138] The impact of the Roman Catholic Church in the Democratic Republic of Congo is difficult to overestimate.[!!!!!!!] Schatzberg has called it the country’s “only truly national institution apart from the state.”[139] Its schools have educated over 60% of the nation’s primary school students and more than 40% of its secondary students. The church owns and manages an extensive network of hospitals, schools, and clinics, as well as many diocesan economic enterprises, including farms, ranches, stores, and artisans’ shops.

– https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Republic_of_the_Congo#Religion

And don’t forget the Zionist-Vatican alliance power couple par excellence; Cass Sunstein and Samantha Power:

Sunstein co-authored a 2008 paper with Adrian Vermeule, titled “Conspiracy Theories,” dealing with the risks and possible government responses to conspiracy theories resulting from “cascades” of faulty information within groups that may ultimately lead to violence.

– https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cass_Sunstein#.22Conspiracy_Theories.22_and_government_infiltration

Her advocacy of humanitarian intervention has been criticized for being tendentious and militaristic, for answering a “problem from hell” with a “solution from hell.”[58] Furthermore, Power’s advocacy of deploying the United States armed forces to combat human rights abuses has been criticized as running contrary to the idea that the main purpose of the military is for national defense.[59] […]
In July 2014, Power expressed support for Israel’s right to defend itself during the 2014 Israel–Gaza conflict.[62]

– https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samantha_Power#Views_on_projecting_military_power_to_prevent_human_rights_abuse

Leftist have pushed a narrative that any speech that incites violence is not protected speech.

Of course this is another big lie, but they have loaded the federal courts with plenty of leftist stooges that advocate this kind of infringement.

They’ve already convinced many people that federal hate speech crime prosecutions are legitimate, so their next advance into federal censorship of incitement is not a stretch.

Leftist fondness for microaggressive speech demonization will be used to stoke their hysteria for more federal censorship.

Addendum:

I forgot to mention Vietnam:

Remember, President Kennedy intensified the U.S. engagement in Vietnam to help out a fellow Roman Catholic:

A devout Roman Catholic, Diệm was fervently anti-communist, nationalist, and socially conservative. Historian Luu Doan Huynh notes that “Diệm represented narrow and extremist nationalism coupled with autocracy and nepotism.”[141] The majority of Vietnamese people were Buddhist, and were alarmed by actions such as Diệm’s dedication of the country to the Virgin Mary.

– https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War#Di.E1.BB.87m_era.2C_1955.E2.80.9363

– https://www.unz.com/plee/trump-we-wish-the-problem-was-fascism/#comment-1618786

Vietnam why did we go?

Avro Manhattan was the world’s foremost authority on Roman Catholicism in politics. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_Manhattan ] […]

With an immense collection of facts, photos, names and dates, Manhattan proves that the Vietnam War began as a religious conflict. He shows how America was manipulated into supporting Catholic oppression in Vietnam supposedly to fight communism.

– http://www.reformation.org/vietnam.html

In this kind of politics, it is the appearance of things that matters.

– John F. Kennedy according to Gore Vidal

– https://www.unz.com/plee/trump-we-wish-the-problem-was-fascism/#comment-1619707

At the Aug. 28 debate in Chicago – the penultimate encounter in the series, with an estimated 10 million people watching – things began with relative calm. But it didn�t stay that way, and before long the men began exchanging words that one simply didn�t hear on TV at that time (see box below). Vidal called Buckley a “pro-crypto-Nazi,” a modest slip of the tongue, he later said, because he was searching for the word “fascist” and it just didn’t come out. Inflamed by the word “Nazi” and the whole tenor of the discussion, Buckley snapped back: “Now listen, you queer,” he said, “stop calling me a crypto-Nazi or I�ll sock you in you goddamn face and you�ll stay plastered.” Smith attempted to calm the exchange with “gentlemen, let’s not call names,” but the damage had been done. The two men, considerably subdued, met the following night for the last of their week of debates.

– http://www.pitt.edu/~kloman/debates.html

William Buckley Vs Gore Vidal

I was more of a kid then, but I remember well watching the debates between Buckley andVidal.

Me and my mom, of course who was in the home at the time tended to think Vidal had superior arguments, but even if you like W.F. Buckley’s oddness, when you think about it, Vidal wins.

Buckley is too weird looking to begin with, and what a gaddamed fruit… That f’n prig is about the most obnoxious f’n white m’fr’ I ever sawr… and hey…
But seriously… James Kirkpatrick did a lot of good work in his day… some time he was a little too far toward the right corporatists, for me, but the guy did use good language and he made pretty good sense.

I don’t think the above article is authentic from J. Kilpatrick because I couldn’t read it… because the lanquage didn’t flow, what they call Prose… real good lanquage… almost Poetry, ‘might say, and that above article is BS.

Oh yeah you make me remember now…

I was ready to go into the Army, my only good experience was not school, but the boy scouts, where we learned the skills that would be similar to army preparedness.

But in those days, we thought sure we will go to the army, and we will do right. The concept in our minds, I think, was that we, us boys, would be ready to defend. Defend, and of course what ever even I guess, kill enemies.

The examples you posted relate to IRISH Catholicism, a creature as different from ROMAN Catholicism as zionism is different from Torah Judaism.

IRISH Catholicism is political, not religious/spiritual, as is zionism.

You might be interested in this article about William F. Buckley Jr.:

William F Buckley – A Case Study In Narcissistic Personality Disorder

Was William F Buckley a Malignant Narcissist? Well, you can never be sure at a distance, but I long suspected it. His face had a slightly shocked, frozen aspect, with glassy eyes, and an uncertainty at what he was seeing, even as he adopted a “devil may care” attitude. The picture below is a perfect example of what I look for in the narcissistic face. That is at President Reagan’s inauguration. Notice how the face is kind of a mixture of shock, horror, and an attempt to overlay it with a blank expression. Even so, if you look, you can see the amygdala beneath it.

– http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/william-f-buckley-a-case-study-in-narcissistic-personality-disorder/

William F. Buckley Jr. was perhaps the most formidable agent of the Vatican on U.S. soil, ever:

The release of his first book, God and Man at Yale, in 1951 was met with some specific criticism pertaining to his Catholicism. McGeorge Bundy, dean of Harvard at the time, wrote in The Atlantic that “it seems strange for any Roman Catholic to undertake to speak for the Yale religious tradition.” Henry Sloane Coffin, a Yale trustee, accused Buckley’s book of “being distorted by his Roman Catholic point of view” and stated that Buckley “should have attended Fordham or some similar institution.”[32]

– https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_F._Buckley_Jr.#Religious_views

– https://www.unz.com/article/rule-or-ruin/#comment-1624652

I assume you were referring to James J. Kilpatrick in your comment, right?

Fine Print: Reflections on the Writing Art; and, A Political Bestiary, which he co-wrote with former U.S. Senator Eugene McCarthy and Pulitzer Prize-winning editorial cartoonist Jeff MacNelly.

– https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_J._Kilpatrick

Here one of my comments on Eugene McCarthy and Catholic Vietnamese, etc. immigrants/refugees. Again, we see the Vatican-inspired “Invade (Protect) the (Catholic) World/Invite the (Catholic) World” scheme play out:

1965 Immigration Law co-sponsor Eugene McCarthy’s awakening to the threat of immigration […]

So what went wrong? According to McCarthy, the caps were eroded away continuously on an ad hoc basis to adapt to immigration pressures that often were the result of American foreign policy. Cubans were given a welcome mat almost immediately, Vietnamese and other refugees from the failed Vietnam War were allowed in, as were people disrupted by Central American wars pursued by president Reagan. McCarthy could have mentioned the special treatment allotted to Soviet Jews, but chose to touch on neither the special privileges nor the power of Jews in America.

[…]

Twenty-nine to forty percent of Vietnamese Americans are Roman Catholic, a legacy of Operation Passage to Freedom.[56]

– https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnamese_Americans#Religion

Why is the American press grossly under reporting on the most significant issues of our time, i.e.: the relationship between the pope’s demand for open U.S. borders and the fact that 90% of immigrants are Roman Catholics;

– https://www.unz.com/article/rule-or-ruin/#comment-1625914

MSM is embedded with the regime even in peacetime . they are more dangerously infective than the body fluid of the disease carrying cockraches
CNN’s job is to copy and paste from the lips of the regime . It also has learnt what to say about the boss’s plans or modus operandi being in the lying and ass kissing game for all along
” http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/rep-tulsi-gabbard-smokes-cnn-shill-us-funding-terrorists-syria-video/ri18105

Jake Tapper: “Are you really suggesting that US govt is funding these terrorist groups?”
Tulsi Gabbard: “Ah, I’m not only ‘suggesting’ it. This is… this IS the reality that we’re living in.”
Tapper: “Not directly though??”
Gabbard: “Most Americans… if… if you or I were to provide money, uh weapons, or support or whatever, to a group like Alqaeda or IsIs, we would IMMEDIATELY be thrown in jail! Ah. However, the US government has been providing money, weapons, intel assistance and other types of support, THROUGH the CIA, DIRECTLY to these groups that are WORKING WITH, and are AFFILIATED WITH Al-Qaeda and ISIS!”
Tapper: “So, you’re saying that the CIA is giving monies to groups in Syria, and those groups are ‘working WITH’ Al Nusra and ISIS?” http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/rep-tulsi-gabbard-smokes-cnn-shill-us-funding-terrorists-syria-video/ri18105

Gab bard:There are/there’ve been numerous reports, from the NYT to the WSJ and other news outlets, who have declared that these ‘rebel groups’ have formed these battlefield alliances with Al-Qaeda… that essentially IS Al-Qaeda; groups in charge of EVERY SINGLE ‘rebel group’ on the ground, fighting to overthrow the Syrian Govt.”
Tapper: “The US Govt says that they vet the group that they give money to, very closely. And, that you’re wrong… and that, there are no alliances between groups that the American taxpayers fund, and these other groups; obviously, they ALL are fighting Assad.”
Gabbard: “Uh, I beg to differ; evidence has shown, time and time again, that, that is NOT the case. WE are DIRECTLY and INDIRECTLY supporting these groups who are ALLIED WITH or partnered with alCIAda and ISIS, and working TO overthrow the Syrian government of Assad. And, we’ve also been providing that support THROUGH countries like Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Qatar, to do that! http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/rep-tulsi-gabbard-smokes-cnn-shill-us-funding-terrorists-syria-video/ri18105

Yeah, Kennedy helped Diem so much that he OK’d his murder. I’m glad no one is that interested in helping me.

You are correct about that, but there is more to the story/conspiracy:

Spellman, as mentioned elsewhere, had been one of the earliest sponsors of the then unknown Vietnamese leader, Diem. From the very beginning when Diem went to seek American sponsorship in the U.S., Spellman persuaded many influential politicians, including Senator Kennedy the future President, to support Diem in preference to other candidates. He praised Diem for his honesty, integrity, religiosity, and above all for his dedication to anti-communism. It was this last quality which endeared Spellman’s protégé to the State Department, which finally decided to opt for him. […]

Kennedy, while succumbing to the Catholic lobby of the U.S. and to the arguments of Spellman, resisted their pressure to put all the weight of America behind the Catholic regime of Diem. […]

Kennedy was too astute a politician to risk compromising his future career to support the religious idiosyncrasies of a fellow Catholic president and the silence of the Vatican. Ruthless politician that he was, he put his political career at home first, and the equivocal policies of his church, embodied by Diem, second. Kennedy’s attitude chagrined Spellman, even though Kennedy, as a palliative to the cardinal, ordered 16,000 American troops into Vietnam; the first fateful step by the U.S. into the Vietnamese military bog. […]

After prolonged and painful assessment, Kennedy and his closest associates finally reached the conclusion that the only way to get rid of the Diem regime was to get rid of President Diem himself. There have been contradictory reports of how the ultimate decision was reached and by whom. Although books, and newspapers have described the step by step evolution, in the end it turned out to be a planned cold blooded assassination of Diem. [13]

– http://www.reformation.org/chapter20.html

Might it be possible and conceivable, that President Kennedy was assassinated by the orders of Cardinal Spellman and the Catholic lobby as “revenge” for Diem’s assassination?

Why is soros still alive, can’t someone do something about that?