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No element of American culture is more axiomatic than the link between education and upward mobility. This relationship virtually defined the early civil rights movement but, as we shall see, not only has this link weakened, but the very opposite seems to be emerging —destroying education, especially public education, has, ostensibly, become the path to racial progress.

At least until the 1960s, the education and economic progress nexus was beyond dispute since the facts—blacks were shortchanged educationally and also lagged behind whites economically–were shockingly obvious. Civil rights organizations thus reasonably zeroed in on educational equality, and by the mid-1960s trillions were flowing into schools promoting racial uplift. There were free meals (“can’t learn on an empty stomach”) plus countless programs targeting “root causes” such as Head Start. A vast close-the-gap industry emerged, and every proposal seemed sure-fired. Recall the massively funded Title I, Part A of the Elementary and Secondary Education Act and President George Bush’s No Child Left Behind that mandated clear metrics for progress and incentives. Experts announced that black students could only learn from black teachers or that school textbooks needed more black faces and African American history. And on and on, endlessly but all had at least some reasonable relationship to boosting learning.

Now, over 60 years past initial efforts, it is clear that no elixir performs as advertised, regardless of ideological pedigree or how many trillions are “invested in the children” (the inflation adjusted spending on education since the 1960s has increased by 280%). Nor has the black/white gap in wealth narrowed since the late 1960s despite soaring educational spending. What is to be done? The answer: quackery, schemes that will only exacerbate an already troubling situation for black children. Putting the civil rights revolution into reverse, so to speak. This educational foolishness may well have been invented by the same egalitarian zealots who insist that the cure for black criminality requires abolishing the police. Let me offer just a sampling of this pernicious nonsense.

The most notorious of these misguided “leveling” policies is forcing schools to discipline students by racial quota—non-blacks are to be discipline at the same rates as blacks. This policy officially began in a 2014 “Dear Colleague” letter from President Obama’s Department of Education Office of Civil Rights Enforcement claiming that school districts that disproportionately suspended, expelled of otherwise penalize blacks pupils were in violation of federal anti-discrimination law, and thus risked losing federal funding. The principle of even-handedness was to be replaced by disparate impact, i.e., uncovering discrimination by the numbers.

Though Obama’s letter was only “guidance” and thus lacked the full force of law, no savvy school administrator failed to get the message—unequal punishment invited federal scrutiny, and arguing was likely to be an expensive, unwinnable battle. Nor was this “guidance” an idle threat—under Obama some 350 school districts with 10 million children were investigated for unequal discipline. The only escape was to show that unequal treatment could be carefully justified on a case-by-case basis, which included keeping track of incidents involving all students, not just offending blacks, a near-impossible burden.

This policy of “kindness” undermined the discipline necessary for learning and certainly did not end the “schoolhouse to jailhouse” pipeline. Disaster ensued as black students quickly learned that they were free to act out, behave violently and otherwise make schools unmanageable. Given the burden of tedious paperwork necessary to escape the loss of federal funds, better just suffer the education-killing disorder.

A more recent quack reform has been calls to replace traditional learning with therapy laden grievance mongering centered on white racism, Consider the plan for helping black youngsters offered by Madeline St. Amour, a reporter for Inside Higher Education. She begins by noting that black children due to racial and housing discrimination disproportionately face “adverse childhood experiences” (ACE’s) that traumatizes them. ACE’s include losing a parent to incarceration or witnessing violence. Just the daily ritual of passing through school metal detectors may tax their mental bandwidth. The upshot of this trauma are increases in adrenaline and cortisol that trigger a fight or flight response, which in turn elevate blood pressure and heart rates, even diminished activity in the prefrontal cortex and, eventually, an impaired memory and decision-making ability. Left untreated, these conditions can cause multiple health problems including teenage pregnancy that impede progress toward higher education.

Fortunately, however, these mental health-related debilitations are treatable by such measures as explaining how American social policy, not personal behavior, is responsible for the students’ poverty. Lesson might include the history of how blacks were denied benefits under the GI Bill, redlining and suburbanization that would, it is assumed, lift the burden of enervating self-blame off the shoulders of these distressed youngsters. With proper instruction poverty becomes something to be overcome by collective, not personal, struggle. To this egalitarian end, high schools must also stop tacking students into courses that don’t prepare them for college while ending remedial instruction that delays graduation.

Such snake oil prescriptions are hardly limited to the academy. Consider, for example, the current push in Loudon, County, Virginia, one of America’s wealthiest areas, to teach all about institutional racism along with traditional K-5 school subjects. Relying on help from the Southern Poverty Law Center, county teachers will use history and social science classes (called “teaching tolerance”) to show how slavery has been fundamental to American society (which is called “diverse democracy”). Not said too loudly, is that the entire endeavor derives from critical race theory,

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Now five-year olds will learn about “social justice” and have opportunities beginning in first grade to master “activism and action civics.” Moreover, the evils of slavery will hardly be sugar coated so the children will encounter material revealing scenes of rape and pedophilia together with the currently trendy topics of substance abuse, immigration and LGBTQ issues. This is in addition to classroom discussions on how ongoing injustices continue to disenfranchise and oppress today’s descendent of slaves. Predictably, many local parents are outraged by this racialization and have threatened to withdraw their children.

The prelogical value of this endeavor is debatable. Will five and six-year olds accurately grasp complex terms like “racism” or “oppression”? Even college students struggle with these topics and turn them into mindless slogans. More likely, given how children learn, historical narratives will be reduced to “good” and “bad” people, and make no mistake, whites will be viewed as the evildoers who unfairly oppressed people of color. Propaganda is thus inherent, all claims to the contrary aside.

Unfortunately, damage done to black kids by exposing them to this claptrap will be huge. Fleeing whites means less government funding and with reduced budgets, gone will be the programs such as intensive tutoring that might help those lagging behind (wealthier whites can afford these extras on the private market). There is also an instructional downside as schools blacken—more disorder, more crime and with these changes, top teachers will go elsewhere. That Loudon schools are already under pressure from egalitarians to diversify programs for the gifted and otherwise discriminate against smart whites and Asians, policies that will only further exacerbate this exodus.

Then there’s the opportunity costs of mixing woke ideology with the basics. An hour spend recounting how slaves really built America is an hour less for the three R’s unless everything is made woke—if John owned three slaves, and sold two into bondage….Thus, absent a longer school day or a lengthier school year, the burden of this policy will be felt disproportionately by black student who from the earliest ages academically lag behind white and Asian classmates. It is no accident that educators obsessed with the racial gap in academic achievement stress concentrating on the basics, and this Loudon scheme embodies the very opposite view. As they say, with friends like this, who needs enemies?

Why?

What could possibly explain these (and other) counter-productive proposals that disproportionately victimize African Americans? A hard-headed realist might simply aver that everything is just plain-Jane stupidity augmented by craven opportunism. In their ill-informed, convoluted thinking. these self-designated civil rights activists genuinely believe that racial mumbo-jumbo agitprop outshines instruction in reading. Further throw in the media attention lavished on any black crackpot hawking some attention-getting “solution.”

Alternatively, just follow the money—these putative remedies will drive non-black teachers and administrators out of public schools leaving behind jobs for blacks. Ironically, though hardly consistent with past educational logic, education does bring economic advancement via jobs for blacks though at a cost of miseducating millions of fellow blacks.

The ethnic cleansing strategy is sustainable provided one is willing to tolerate generations of mis-educated youngsters–those who pass through a system without learning the discipline necessary to mastering traditional subjects just replace their instructors. And, to the extent that this downward slide escapes “white” achievement benchmarks such as the NAEP, black schools will mutate into educational apartheid institutions comparable to dogma-driven orthodox religious schools stuck in the 12th century. Critical race theory will be taught as catechism. To be blunt, given the political turmoil associated with racial integration, whites officials might tolerate these modern carve-outs just as white Southerners once tolerated sub-standard black-run schools before the Brown (1954) decision, Perhaps this growing self-imposed self-debilitating nonsense helps explain why all the extra educational spending only seems to be widening race-related wealth gaps.

An extreme version of this economic-based argument is that undermining black education expands black welfare dependency, and his generates yet more black-dominated bureaucratic bloat. Think black-run cities that barely function yet provide handsome livelihoods for thousands.

Finally, these proposals may just reflect academic failure since quack-like nostrums would not have surfaced if blacks had successfully utilized the educational opportunities made available by the civil rights revolution. In a sense, the condemnation of “whiteness” by many prominent blacks is a tacit admission that being good at school is just for whites, not blacks. To employ a sports analogy, if you cannot play the game well according to the established rules, alter the rules to minimize the absence of necessary skills (as whites occasionally joke about creating a form of basketball that minimizes jumping and running skills). So, if one is unable to pass a math test, substitute a knack for regurgitating the party line on systemic racism. If students cannot heed traditional standards of classroom decorum, legally prevent principals from expelling them. Eventually the entire system of grades might be reconfigured to reflect “disadvantage” so those certified as “most disadvantaged” will receive the highest grades compared to those who are “privileged.” Better yet, abolish grades altogether to cushion self-esteem killing failure. All and all, a war on educational achievement no different than reducing black crime by eliminating law against crime.

 
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  1. Abolish the public schools–it has been an experiment of western civilization that is a failure.

    The parents and kids would be better off figuring it out for themselves.

    • Agree: Alfred, theMann, Jett Rucker
    • Replies: @tomo
    , @Amon
    , @SaneClownPosse
  2. anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:

    This obsession with 13% of the population has to stop. The tail is wagging the dog. Have things like education geared toward those who can best benefit from it. If blacks can’t follow along then that’s just the way it is. Public education has been ruined in most larger areas because of this issue. The whole thing has become some form of semi-religious belief on the part of white zealots who can’t see reality. The races are different, bro, human evolution didn’t stop at some distant point in the past. The equality nonsense peddled by the likes of Montagu and Gould wasn’t science at all but wishful thinking turned into politics.

  3. Chris Moore says: • Website

    The deep state left’s entire educational policy has become “scapegoat whitey.” Helpfully (to the elite liberal and neocon grifters and warmongers) this “educates” the underclass to become fodder against the “deplorables” on behalf of the Globalist overclass.

    In other words, our deep state, international Zionist, and corporatist “elite” are using the public school system to create useful idiot bodyguards for the same international Zionist and Globalist “chosen-elect” that has not only pursued government trade and arbitrage economic policy and wars that have plundered, killed and sold out deplorable historical America, but they’re additionally dumbing down black and brown America in order that they’ll do the dirty work of cutting the throats of those same deplorables should they get too uppity and try to take back their country.

    A diabolically ingenious system — if you’re a homicidal psychopath and parasite bent on global totalitarianism under the guise of “democracy.”

    • Thanks: Majority of One
    • Replies: @TheTrumanShow
    , @Wally
  4. Vinnie O says:

    Do you know NOTHING? Doing well at school is the ARCH-typical example of “acting White”. Regardless of how many brains you’ve got in your head, unless your parents have already sold out and become White Middle Class, you FLUNK tests even if you KNOW the answers.

    As explained by Charles Murray, the “urban contemporary lifestyle” is based on the following principles: 1) drop out of school without graduating, 2) produce children without the benefit of marriage, 3) refuse work when jobs are offered, 4) supplement income from government welfare by committing crimes.

    Murray now notes that an increasing number of otherwise White teenagers have bought into the Black Lifestyle because NOTHING is asked in return for the FREE government (local, state, and federal) handouts. And in fact it is REQUIRED that you have some illegitimate bastards (a technical, legal term) laying around to qualify for free housing and stuff.

    So flunking classes in high school ain’t nearly enough. Ya gotta go “full ghetto”. Otherwise ya might be offered a job drivin’ a truck or emptyin’ trash cans. And the next thing ya know you’re a contributing member of White society.

    • Agree: Adûnâi
    • LOL: GMC
  5. Moegreen says:

    This is now happening in private schools too. One cannot escape the DEI army.

    • Agree: Alden
  6. anarchyst says:

    It’s the JEWS…it’s always the JEWS…

    I came of age during the first so-called “civil-rights” movement and saw for myself the underhanded dealings, the demonization of decent, law-abiding whites, and in general, the deterioration of civil society.

    Almost all of the “civil-rights” workers and demonstration “handlers” were of one persuasion–New York based leftist communist jews. They cared not one wit about true “civil rights”, but were there to create hate and discontent among their black charges (who were too stupid or naive to see that they were being used to suborn and destroy legitimate government and society–a favorite communist tactic).

    These New York-based “carpetbaggers” fomented their hate and discontent, only to become future “civil-rights” attorneys, race-hustlers, and America-hating leftist communists…and the ADL and $PLC being invented.

    Those of us whites who were in the middle of this “civil-rights” revolution had a saying: “Behind every negro, there is a jew”. No truer words were spoken.

    Let’s not forget their infestation of the nation’s education and entertainment systems, in which they can spread their jewish supremacist poison.

    The so-called “non-violent civil-rights demonstrations” were anything but “non-violent”. Robberies, rapes, and other criminal acts were common, but never reported, as even the “mainstream media” was “in on the game” and conveniently turned off their cameras during the acts of violence. You see, even then,”creating crises” was a part of the agenda.

    The “beginning of the end” of America was the use of federal troops against white Americans, which, in itself was a violation of “posse comitatus”–the prohibition on the use of federal troops for domestic “law enforcement” purposes. As most whites were (and still are) law-abiding, they (we) were “steamrollered” by the use of federal troops to crush honest dissent. We never recovered from those unconstitutional actions. It was all downhill from there…

    The next step may be “civil-war” in which us whites will have to take back our birthright by force.

  7. anarchyst says:

    Those who demonize whites for being responsible for “that peculiar institution”–slavery also demonize whites for the failure of “public education” in predominantly black-run school districts.

    There are constant calls for “more money” as, even when outspending white and rural school districts, it is never enough. Perhaps it would be easier just to flush the money down the toilet, as these black bastards have no interest in getting an education.

    In most urban black-run school systems, performing at grade level can be measured in the low percentages, often below 10%. The school boards, administrators, and other school personnel are (still) proud of their “accomplishments”…

    We are constantly being reminded that in slave days, it was illegal to give slaves an “education”- to teach slaves to read and write.
    It seems that today’s blacks are doing “a bang up job” on their own, in today’s black-majority “public schools”. The few blacks who truly want an education are criticized, brow-beaten, and even attacked for daring to want to learn.

    Teachers in these dysfunctional schools are actually glorified “baby-sitters” whose job is to minimize the disruptions from those blacks who do not want to learn. They may start out being idealistic, wanting to change the system, but quickly find out that the system is stacked against them, and the best course of action is to “go along to get along”, especially when most of the administrators are black, themselves and make lame and feeble excuses for the misbehavior of their “charges”.

    Black-run public schools have been precursors for the prison systems. It seems that public education has become a “finishing system”, preparing its students for eventual incarceration.

    This failure of “public education” has been going on for a long time. It started with the racial desegregation of public schools in the 1950s and 1960s.

    The ordeal that us white students had to go through was harrowing, to say the least. White students did not use the restrooms, as a “beatdown” by multiple blacks was usually the result.

    Blacks never fought one-on-one, the “pack mentality” was evident then as is today.

    Any attempts by (us) whites to defend ourselves was met with indifference, and even outright hostility from school officials. You see, even then, blacks were “not responsible” for their behavior.

    Blacks did not want to learn, the same situation that still exists today. Even then, blacks were disruptive. Most of the teachers just shrugged their shoulders, let the disruptions go on until the next class period.

    Teachers were deferential to blacks, although there were a few teachers who tried to carefully shield their white and asian students (us) as much as possible from predatory blacks, giving them (us) additional attention and coursework, knowing that they (us) could excel in spite of the, violent, raucous atmosphere.

    Anywhere blacks go, they destroy…

    Segregation would benefit both races…

    • Agree: Patriot
    • Replies: @Wally
    , @cronkitsche
  8. The Blacc experience in a nutshell: While a football player majoring in eligibility I had the opportunity to take a Bidness class at a local Blac high school. The class had 2 male, myself and a mulatto kid with a loop afro and enough sense not to interact with the girls either. The ‘girls’ were getting a stipend from some kind of Manpower training grant in addition to the ‘credicks’ dey wuz gittin. The red-boned and short teacher, Mrs. Johnson has obviously grown up before Welfare Ruled the Hood, and was lecturing the ‘ladies’ on the value of getting a skill, a husband and a job, with which to pursue the American Dream. As in get a starter house, then a better one, etc. The natives were getting restless though, and one girl piped up with ” All ah’s needs is a check on the first and the fifteenth!”, to which another sistuh added “An if da nigga got a job, Ah’ll git half of dat too”. At which point the room erupted into ‘you go gurl’ type accolades which caused Mrs Johnson to turn even redder and stomp down the hall. Which was a dangerous thing, as Ghetto Tech’s floors were not exactly sturdy. Since Mrs Johnson eventually returned, we assumed she didn’t find a new way to the basement. However, the look that boy exchanged with me while the room went full bongo party was one I shall never forget. It was the look of being in a shark tank during a feeding frenzy.

    And that is why the concept of Colored scholarship is always a con. The girls would much rather get paid to be laid. And since the System rewards promiscuity over marriage, we will always have a case of angry blac youfs (watching your homies bang yo mama does that), inbred (mama has no idea who da daddy is), with laws that set males against females (no one wants to pay for baby mama to f**k around and have jr molested anyway). The System is designed for failure and the blacs fall into like a monkey with its hand in a jar.

    • Agree: RoatanBill, Druid
    • LOL: Clyde
    • Replies: @Loup-Bouc
  9. This educational foolishness may well have been invented by the same egalitarian zealots who insist that the cure for black criminality requires abolishing the police. Let me offer just a sampling of this pernicious nonsense.

    A while ago, Robert Weissberg wrote an interesting article about public security policy:

    Maybe We Should De-Fund the Police
    by Robert Weissberg
    https://www.unz.com/article/maybe-we-should-de-fund-the-police/

    Well, anyway, I suppose it’s the same Robert Weissberg. It’s not such an uncommon name, so, who knows, maybe Unz.com have conflated two homonymous persons as one.

  10. @Brás Cubas

    I am the same person. My argument about defunding the police is that blacks and whites have very different views of crime and quality of life. For many blacks, current policing resembles a colonial power imposing its values. It doesn’t work. Policing for blacks should reflect what blacks want, not what whites think what blacks wants. Both will be happier.

  11. @Robert Weissberg

    This piece is also less derisive than some of your other whack-a-black columns. Cf., https://www.unz.com/article/subsidizing-non-western-medicine-the-cure-for-soaring-healthcare-costs/

    You still need to step up the proofreading, though, especially when focusing on education.

    • Replies: @JWalters
    , @Cato
  12. Chris Moore says: • Website

    My argument about defunding the police is that blacks and whites have very different views of crime and quality of life. For many blacks, current policing resembles a colonial power imposing its values. It doesn’t work. Policing for blacks should reflect what blacks want, not what whites think what blacks wants.

    So a kind of Apartheid system? Or maybe a Zionist system? So why not let them set up their own country, as you Jews have done?

    Oh, but darn it, that would get in the way of the international Jew’s Petrodollar fiat currency system, if the U.S. were to break up — the one that underwrites Judeofascist Israel to the tune of billions of dollars of “free money,” and pays for the Mideast wars for Jews there.

    Better wait until the Jewish fifth column has more thoroughly penetrated China before going there, Weissberg.

    • LOL: mark green
    • Replies: @Franz
  13. @Robert Weissberg

    Yes, but why can’t the same reasoning apply to schools?

  14. The US generally has a mixed system for religious schools. By law they must cover basic material but are otherwise free to insert religious material into schooling. It seems to work to the extent that schools obey the law but, at least here in NYC, it appears that some do no.

  15. TKK says:
    @Robert Weissberg

    Policing for blacks should reflect what blacks want, not what whites think what blacks wants.

    What a terrifying idea.

    To allow blacks a subjective interruption of rules, boundaries and limitations would be a hellscape for any person who had to live with or near them. This idea would only be tenable if America were in strict apartheid. People who wanted to live a peaceful and orderly life would have to be protected from domains where blacks could decide what rules they “want”.

    To be sure, your statement :

    For many blacks, current policing resembles a colonial power imposing its values.

    is the spin of white liberals to excuse black criminality. As a criminal defense lawyer, your statement reflects no actual face time with black criminals.

    Black criminals know EXACTLY what is right and what is wrong. It’s laughable, indeed preposterous , to state that most blacks are contemplating historical colonialism when encountering law enforcement or committing crimes.

    Blacks commit crimes because they want to do so, and the pay off is usually quite high. There’s nothing romantic, deep or meaningful about their motives when they resist arrest, act feral or hurt others. They are just angry someone stopped their behavior and don’t feel like going to jail that night.

    They could not spell colonial power, let alone articulate the idea to you.

    • Thanks: G J T
  16. @Robert Weissberg

    As soon as Africans-in-America are repatriated to Greater Liberia, they should be allowed to run their affairs as they wish. It should be up to them to “defund”, “reimagine”, or entirely do away with the popo. It should be up to them to have schools or return to their proud tradition of illiteracy. It should be up to them whether to legalize drive-by shootings and other cultural contests arbitrarily proscribed by White patriarchy. Hell, if they want to reclaim their culinary heritage by reviving cannibalism, that should be up to them too. But as long as Whites are forced to share a geographical space with them, then, no, they can’t do whatever they want, even if their great-great-great-great-great-great-granddaddy had to pick some cotton. An attempt by liberals to impose that paradigm may be the one thing that leads to a civil war between Whites and our enemies, which is to say, to White salvation.

    • Agree: AnonFromTN, nokangaroos
    • Replies: @Robert Weissberg
  17. @Robert Weissberg

    If blacks pay in full for their own cops, I don’t care what their policies are.

    But–not one nickel of whitey’s money should go to their “paradise”–and I don’t want to hear any whining about “food deserts” when small business folks refuse to do business there.

  18. Most people are like dominoes, and society is easily changed when the falling begins and there’s no counter-mechanism to stop it.

  19. @Vinnie O

    And in fact it is REQUIRED that you have some illegitimate bastards (a technical, legal term)

    I would point out every bastard is, by definition, illegitimate.

    • LOL: Truth
    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
  20. There were free meals (“can’t learn on an empty stomach”)

    How did blacks excel in sports before free meals?

    Sports burn more calories.

  21. @Brás Cubas

    I say let blacks kill blacks. More the better.

    And $500 for any black abortion.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @Brás Cubas
  22. This gigantic country, formerly a world power, is about nothing but negroes. This is insane.

    In the past we created products, farmed, built infrastructure. And now do nothing but obsess over negroes.

    Please stop this.

    • Agree: Ace
    • Replies: @AKINDLE
    , @Truth
  23. A developing undercurrent through the essay by mr. Weissberg and most of the posters is the whole matter of reverse racism. What this edjumacasion finagling adds up to is an empowerment for socially negative attitudes amongst the offspring of the Babymamas. Boyfriend #5 kicks the 10 Y.O. boy out on the street where he meets up with peers who are facing the same situation. Next thing you know, we have the nucleus for a gang–all with the same attitude of an incredible combination of “hate Whitey” along with a sense of tribal exceptionalism and entitlement.

    All this dates back to LBJ’s “Great Society” programs, particularly AFDC regulations which stipulated that for mama to get the child welfare bennies, there could be no daddy in the house. Thereby, the stage was set for destruction of the black nuclear family. All previously hard-won cultural values went down the drain in a series of 15 year generational turnovers. Imagine the rank stupidity of paying people to breed cultural disaster. Babies having babies.

    Our prisons are filled with gold-grilled bucks who brag about how many baby mamas who will support them when they get out and then go on talking about “nigga this and nigga that ” with “bitches and hos” thrown in to “prove” their manly superiority.

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    , @Majority of One
  24. Druid says:
    @Robert Weissberg

    Idiot! As long as you pit fences around their hoods, then. In other words, Apartheid, you Jewdas Goat!

  25. @Robert Weissberg

    Good attitude!
    Naturally than you must approve and advocate segregation.

  26. ARemo says:

    Blacks are stupider than whites and learn only what they have to when they have too. Yes you can get them to learn calculus but there better be a whip and being tied to a tree if they don’t pass. Reality is what it is regardless of how many times some liberal clutches their pearls in horror over it.

  27. Wally says:
    @anonymous

    said:
    “This obsession with 13% of the population has to stop”

    It’s the same worldwide.

    In every instance where blacks & browns are in great numbers, and / or control the governments of cities, counties, regions, states, countries, & continents we see:
    – incredibly low IQs & test scores
    – massive murder rates
    – massive crime in general
    – degraded property
    – massive disease, especially STDs
    – massive drug & alcohol abuse
    – general filth, squalor
    – massive birthrates
    – inability / unwillingness to support their own children
    – massive youth pregnancies rates
    – massive school dropout rates
    – violence as a way of life
    – fathers nowhere to be found

    Q: What do smarter blacks who make a few bucks do?
    A: Move out of black areas and into white areas.

    Q: What do foreign blacks do when given a chance?
    A. Get out of black countries and into majority white countries … any way they can.

    • Replies: @Joseph Doaks
  28. Jiminy says:

    Reading this reminded me of when I was walking the kids home from school, and we were discussing their report cards. For the semester, one of my boys had no days absent, while the other had one sick day off. Meanwhile the neighbours kid, an aborigine who was walking with us piped up and said how he had missed 31 days of school. That’s over six weeks of wagging class. He was of course a misunderstood, downtrodden, and tormented black kid from the neighbourhood who is basically provided with everything in life and yet they still can’t manage to get out of bed to receive a free education. It seems like they’re tarred with the same brush, either here or in the US.

    • Agree: Alfred
    • Replies: @Alfred
  29. Franz says:
    @Chris Moore

    So a kind of Apartheid system? Or maybe a Zionist system? So why not let them set up their own country…

    That’s what quite a few wanted when the Civil Rights act came out in the mid-60s. And boy did the FBI (etc) move like quicksilver to shut that impulse down.

    They even had concrete plans for a polis of their own, or perhaps many. One was to be called Soul City and it was well into reality before it got shut down.

    Lots of blacks wanted separation more that whites did. But the bankers can’t have that. Why do you think they framed Marcus Garvey and harassed him to an early grave? If they allow the true solution, they end a perpetual problem and there’s lots of money in that problem.

    The reason the Black Panthers and other black groups had demands that make no sense a half-century later is they were second-stringers. The best of the black groups like NOI know separation was the only way out. They were sabotaged, so the loudmouths got all the money and publicity.

  30. Wally says:
    @anarchyst

    said:
    “Those who demonize whites for being responsible for “that peculiar institution”–slavery also demonize whites for the failure of “public education” in predominantly black-run school districts.”

    – In fact it was black Africans who were responsible for black slavery. It was blacks who sold their own stock of captive black slaves to the slave dealers, who, BTW, were largely Jews.

    No Africans selling black slaves, no black slavery.

    recommended:

    African chiefs urged to apologise for slave trade / Nigerian civil rights group says tribal leaders’ ancestors sold people to slavers and should say sorry
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/nov/18/africans-apologise-slave-trade
    “African chiefs were the ones waging war on each other and capturing their own people and selling them. If anyone should apologise it should be the African chiefs. We still have those traitors here even today.”

    The Truth About Slavery: https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/08/the_truth_about_slavery.html

    Professor Tony Martin – The Jewish Slave Trade of Africans

    • Agree: tomo
    • Thanks: anarchyst, mark green, FLgeezer
  31. gotmituns says:
    @Robert Weissberg

    Policing for blacks should reflect what blacks want
    ————————————————————-
    I don’t think “want” is a good word. The better word I think is capable. “Policing blacks should reflect what blacks are capable of. I think it’s obvious to everyone by now that blacks are not capable of living within the constraints of this society they find themselves existing in.

    • Replies: @trickster
  32. SPLC (Southern Law Poverty Center)… Jews must really hate blacks: first, there is the old Bible in which the blacks are basically portrayed as no good monkeys; two, then there was the slave trade financing at usurious interest rates; third, the modern payday loans, again, at very steep interest rates and atop of all that, turning blacks against the very people who showed any concern for their true welfare, namely, White Christians (no other race has given shit about them… Jews just pretend to care for blacks for personal gains) and now these further egging ons not to strive to learn in schools (has anyone wondered where the money goes? Cui bono?) with disruptive behavior which leads to further ostracism and isolation. With friends like SPLC, who needs enemies?

  33. Curious in an article dealing with the impact of equality measures that you capitalise Asians and African Americans but leave blacks and whites in lower case.

    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
  34. It’s IQ stupid and nothing can fix that. The bankers and Democrats love the ruse because more money is spent (and borrowed) to fund useless programs and Democrats can blame “racism” in order to keep blacks on their plantation.

    • Replies: @Jake
  35. @Chris Moore

    In addition, elevating dubiously-qualified blacks/browns into the clerisy is designed to cultivate the illusion of upward mobility in the new white-replacement black/brown goyim-masses.

  36. Dexter P says:

    Can we please just all acknowledge the 1sd IQ gap between blacks and whites just how Singapore has acknowledged that between han chinese and malays? This key piece of information solves so many issues.

  37. Jake says:

    None of this is reversing the Civil Rights Movement. All of this is inherent in the Civil Rights Movement. Just like the show trials, purges, Gulag, and Holomodor were inherent in the Bolshevik Revolution.

  38. @TKK

    Lethal comment: rapid-fire full metal jacket hollow-point sentences at point blank range.

    • Thanks: TKK
    • Replies: @TKK
  39. Jake says:
    @Robert Weissberg

    Only if we are separated. If we must defer to blacks about things that impact them, then we must have them be impacted without us being forced to suffer because of what they want, demand, etc. That means separation.

    If our presence harms them just by our presence – as is implicit in the notion of systemic racism – then it is abuse of blacks to have them in a society with non-blacks.

  40. Jake says:
    @tellthe truth

    Not just Democrats. If Republicans were not equally guilty, we could get out of this trap.

  41. G J T says:
    @Robert Weissberg

    Then blacks should get the hell out of our country. Problem solved.

    I believe it was Ghana that offered them all citizenship? So what are they waiting for?

  42. G J T says:

    That these conversations are even being had is already a problem from the outset. And they wouldn’t be happening if JEWS did not have disproportionate power and influence over white, Christian societies such as ours. You fix the Jewish problem and all of this goes away.

    • Agree: Katrinka
    • Disagree: Stan d Mute
    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
  43. astro3 says:

    The only answer is to have a non-racist or non-racial education policy: so those marking the exam papers do not know the racial identity of the students: they would not have the names or identities of the students on the exam papers. The racial outcome of these exams would not be the business or concern of the school/college & they would not have to answer Qs about it.
    (I appreciate one can’t really achieve that for students punished or expelled but ideally the same principal should apply)

  44. trickster says:
    @gotmituns

    Blacks are not capable of living among other blacks in a white country, blacks are not capable of living among blacks in a black country !

  45. theMann says:
    @anonymous

    History records, more or less. We don’t know what every Hittite may have thought, but we do know a fair amount about Hittite civilization.

    Well, here is my proposal about the judgement of history:

    All Mankind will view the current generation of Americans as the supreme, pathetic, and genuinely evil fools of all Human History for their truly despicable Negroalotry. Bar none.

  46. theMann says:

    Every Civil Wrongs Law ever written is simply a bludgeon to attack the freedoms of ordinary Americans. Always has been the point.

    • Replies: @Jake
  47. AceDeuce says:
    @Majority of One

    “All this dates back to LBJ’s “Great Society” programs, particularly AFDC regulations which stipulated that for mama to get the child welfare bennies, there could be no daddy in the house. Thereby, the stage was set for destruction of the black nuclear family. All previously hard-won cultural values went down the drain in a series of 15 year generational turnovers.”

    What a bunch of malarkey. Total clueless Hank Hill-like white cuckery. Blacks were already a hot mess well before LBJ. All he did was sanction and enable their already-existing depravity, which was done to win their loyalty and their vote.And it was a good idea-it worked like gangbusters.

    That “no daddy in the house” thing is a conservacuck canard–“Daddy” was always allowed in the house, provided that he was married to “Mommy”. Y’know, an actual “family”. They could get welfare if their income was low enough to qualify. Of course, if daddy worked and mommy got off her arse and worked, they would likely make too much to qualify for welfare, and, y’know, pay their own way in life like most people do. Kind of like, if you get a job, you no longer need, or qualify for, unemployment payments. Duh.

    What the government rightly objected to was when Kweef’teesha, a single mother with three kids, would bring in Jamaal to shack up with, and have him knock up Kweeef’teesha and split a month later, leaving her with four kids on welfare–until she met Lorenzo, who would move in and knock her up again (kid # 5), and so on.

    Oprah’s mother was never married, but she had four chilluns-by four different men-In fact, Oprah isn’t sure whether or not Vernon Winfrey is in fact her father or not. And all four were born well before LBJ and the Great Society. It’s how blacks are.

    In any case, the no (unattached) man in the house” welfare rule was struck down way, way back in June of 1968 by the Supreme Court in King Vs. Smith, so even that stupid excuse for clueless white “cuckventional wisdom” is invalid. I expect to see that garbage on (Brains) – Free Republic.

    • Agree: gotmituns
    • Replies: @Alden
  48. tomo says:
    @Justvisiting

    it works in countries with sufficient social cohesion like in Serbia
    Public schools are great there and free
    I was shocked when I moved to JUSA to see how little people with degrees from MIT, UCLA etc know compared to what most people learned in Serbian public schools.
    Young grads I met in SF (from some of the best schools in USA) did not even know that plants need to be watered to survive
    These brightest Americans worked in some of the most famous Tech companies in the world

    • Replies: @Peripatetic Itch
  49. When people say a particular American city is dangerous, what they mean is that it’s dangerous because of blacks. When people say a school isn’t good, they mean that a school has lots of blacks in it.

    How much time, money and effort has been wasted pretending that blacks can function in a civilized society? This experiment has been a failure. Give blacks a part of the south, say Alabama and Mississippi, ethnically cleanse them from the rest of America and let them go their own way.

    • Replies: @Majority of One
  50. @TKK

    The nose has already instituted “restorative justice” everywhere in the western world.

    Blacks are allowed to run wild now. A black is allowed to murder a white man to fight “racism.”

    In case after case now of assault and murder, the black simply claims the white man used the n word and the black goes free.

    That’s where we are thanks to the small hat subversion.

    • Agree: TKK, Kolya Krassotkin
  51. Alfred says:
    @Jiminy

    I lived in Cairns for over a year recently. I never saw an aboriginal taxi driver, waiter, barman, lifesaver, fisherman, policeman, city gardener, parking attendant, street cleaner, mechanic, carpenter, builder, electrician and so on. But their women seem to be cleaning hotel rooms and suchlike.

    There was a park between my apartment and the nearby beach (no swimming – crocodiles). Aboriginals liked to drink in the park at night. When the cops came by, they hid the bottles in the foliage but the cops usually found them. Previously, I stayed at an airbnb for a short while. There was a house with aboriginals across the street. There were awful screams by their women sometimes. I moved out.

    • Replies: @Jiminy
    , @Stan d Mute
  52. Weissberg actually expects us to believe that there really is (or was at some time) a solution to the “Achievement Gap” that doesn’t involve cheating large numbers of Whites and Asians and some significant numbers of other minorities out of a legitimate standard K-12 public education.

    This is pure Ben Shapiro grade claptrap.

    • Replies: @Robert Weissberg
  53. @The Alarmist

    Most all adjectives and nouns of nationality/geography in the English language have been capitalized. That’s not the case in Spanish. I can’t speak for other languages. Ergo, standard English (of some polity) must not be your first language.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  54. Let me tell you all about “Bump Day”. In the 1930’s and through the early 1950’s, Los Angeles had a marvelous public transportation system-The Pacific Electric Railway. One could board a streetcar on the periphery of the San Fernando Valley and, by transferring, go all the way to Redondo Beach. On a certain day of the week, Negroes would deliberately bump into and jostle the white passengers. The whites came to call this “Bump Day.” I remember my grandparents and other family members who depended on public transportation talk about this; when I was growing up in the 1950’s.
    The elephant in the room, especially where “educating” the 13% is concerned is their complete lack of discipline and their ingrained hatred. Negroes hate white people. They imbibe their hatred of us at their mothers’ breasts. If you see whitey and he/she has something you want; you take it. I had one tell me that when I was in college in the 1960’s. I saw it in the Army as a Military Policeman and as a Peace Officer in SoCal, where I worked for over 30 years.
    There is a reason North Idaho is called Blue Heaven. Cops from all over the Western US who have dealt with the “Minority Crime” in the Blue State Hives have been migrating here and other similar areas because they saw first hand what happened when the Negroes cornered the market on politics and government freebies. Now, with all of the riots in Democrat-run urban areas, my A/O and neighboring Eastern WA are filling up with white refugees. Sadly, some are bringing their syphilitic thinking and leftist politics with them. They will be dealt with over time.
    Negroes think and act too different from the rest of us. Their culture, world view, music, and lifestyle are as foreign to me as mine is to theirs. The splendor of order, tranquility, economic stability and progress can only be achieved through racial separation. How that can be accomplished without a full-blown civil war is beyond me. It looks like we are headed for a Bosnia/Rwanda-type situation. All I know is those of us here in Winterfell have run all the farther we are going to. We have had enough.

    • Agree: AceDeuce
    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
  55. Jake says:
    @theMann

    Freeing slaves, and then ending Jim Crow, to make all whites serfs under the Federal Government.

  56. @anarchyst

    I confirm the details and shared the experiences anarchyst describes. Before court-ordered desegregation, the desegregated schools were in the poor neighborhoods; after the court orders, the middle-class neighborhoods were drawn into the miserable experiment. The violent racism was not yet entrenched black folkculture, but individual blacks were likely to respond with violence to frustration, contention, or perceived slights. Sexual molestation by blacks–who reached puberty years before the Whites–of White girls was common. If there were teachers who enforced discipline and safety, they were exceptions. It was a practical and moral catastrophe. Those of us who suffered it inevitably grew up skeptical of the Civil Rights cant and programs; those who didn’t grew up credulous, “idealistic,” and racially “virtuous.” But since the intensive indoctrintation of the late 60’s commenced, more and more–finally, a majority–school-age Whites reached adulthood believing the propaganda and denying their own experience. The colleges of education have been “liberal” and anti-White since (in the Northeast) the 40’s; elsewhere, since the 50’s. If there is a remedy, it must include the defunding of the public schools and the redistribution of educational resources to families. It might be too late to accomplish this. That leaves secession and widespread racial separation.

  57. Trinity says:

    Instead of abolishing the public schools, I have a better solution, MAKE PRIVATE SCHOOLS AND HOMESCHOOLING ILLEGAL. That’s right, WHY should some rich, spoiled, upper class & upper middle class Whites not experience what poor, working class Whites have experienced for decades. Yep, maybe, attending “skoo” some REAL negroes will educate Biff & Ashley more about the realities of race than a Harvard edJEWmucation ever could. With the exception of drug addicts and the mentally ill, nearly all the Whites out there marching with (((Antifa/BLM))) are suburban Whites who have never experienced being in an environment where Blacks were in the majority or they made up a significant part of the population. Even attending a school that is 30% Black will wake up a White person significantly about racial realities. Of course, there are Whites who go the opposite route into Wiggerdom, but the majority of Whites will see that Wiggerdom is never the answer unless they want to be treated like a doormat by the “teens” out there. IF these rich Whites live too far away, bus their spoiled asses to some Black “skoo.”

    Ask yourself, how many working class White Southern males or females are out there marching with (((Antifa/BLM?))) Sure, we have some, the self hatred among Whites even exists down here, but they hardly make up a significant amount of those nerds marching with (((Antifa.))) Jews, upper class or upper middle class White losers from the Northeast, Left Coast, and Upper Midwest, make up the majority of Antifa rejects. I would bet you a steak dinner that most with the exception of some turned out Wiggers ( they chose the easy way out like a punk), have never had to deal with some REAL Blacks in school, the workplace, or anywhere else for that matter. Sure, they are siding with racist Blacks with BLM, but they are having to give up any sort of dignity, self respect, they have by constantly degrading themselves and literally becoming servants to their Black masters. The second these white traitor trash deviate from the program of kissing black ass and feet, is the second they are shown how much their “friends” really care about them.

    See how many future Whites will march with anti-White organizations like Antifa or BLM. haha. Guarantee you there won’t be many. A fat girl here, a Wigger there, but they will stick out like a rose in a pile of shit.

    • Agree: Kolya Krassotkin
  58. @Majority of One

    Acey-doocie: You throw some history back at me, but need to do more research on your own. For some clear insights on the reality of black family-based cultural patterns you should check out James Baldwin’s “Go Tell It on the Mountain”, a novel based upon his own experiences growing up in Harlem in the ’30’s.

    Baldwin is anything but a “cuckservative”. So far as I could ascertain, his fact-based, personally experienced depiction of black family life prior to WWII, is about as accurate a depiction as you are likely to encounter. So the observations you are making is, comparatively speaking, a postwar phenomenon.

    Idealistic welfare nostrums aimed at bettering the lives of urban blacks essentially greased the skids for a rapid devolution in family-based black Homelife. Essentially, the result was to encourage the worst instincts among a people who had been trying to get their acts together. The fall was rapid and it was devastating. The mean streets of the big city became the new norm along with incontinent breeding patterns—a culturally lethal phenomenon.

  59. @Robert Weissberg

    Policing for blacks should reflect what blacks want, not what whites think what blacks wants. Both will be happier.

    That is only feasible with strictly enforced apartheid.

    • Agree: Zarathustra
  60. @astro3

    Names would have to be replaced by numbers on those exam papers. After all JoKeesha Jones and BiggaThan Brown would tend to stand out just a bit.

  61. @Johnny Smoggins

    Some of the Southern states will need to be broken up. Black majority states (prior to World War One) would be the logical lodging for all those people whose ancestors moved north beginning with that historical mess. However, portions of those Deep South states have white majorities. Those areas would need to be separated from those regions which would receive the returnees.

    Your general idea, Johnny, tends in the right direction, though much would need to be thought out and further amended. Blacks (in relatively small numbers and by their own choice) who would prefer not to live with their majority brothas and sistas should not have to be deported to the Neo-Africa states. Whites,browns, Natives and others who would prefer to live in Neo-Africa should be able to exercise their choice. No more federal programs for the “racially disadvantaged” would speed the return to a land of watermelon patches and catfish ponds, with a fire pit and drumming and dancing area in the middle of the village.

    Escaping from an over-regulated, highly-competitive and stress-filled urban realityscape would allow for folks to live their lives at their own pace.

  62. Trinity says:

    Actually The Swindle Whites Movement is going as planned. The so-called, “civil rights movement” didn’t have a damn thing to do with “civil rights” unless it meant taking away the rights of Whites, which is exactly what it did. IF Blacks were TRULY judged by their character and accomplishments, we wouldn’t have some truly dumb ass Blacks running Black cities like Atlanta for instance. Look at the Brown & Black idiots in Washington, D.C. collectively known as The Squad. IN ALL HONESTY, those 4 aren’t qualified to run a McDonald’s restaurant. The Swindle Whites movement was orchestrated by (((the usual suspects))) to benefit (((the usual suspects.))) Sure, Blacks were GIVEN positions they didn’t earn at all, but that is meant more about slapping traditional Americans, i.e., Whites in the face and rubbing their noses in shit than Black empowerment. Remember back with Freddie Gray and the Baltimore Riots. My gawd, that Baltimore mayor back then even makes the current mayor of Atlanta look qualified. Stephanie Rawlings Blake was that idiot’s name if I am not mistaken. Blake had to be the dumbest mayor of any major city that I have seen in my lifetime, if there is one dumber, I would hate to live in that town.

    MLK aka Michael King was a PROVEN plagiarizer therefore the Dr. that he allegedly earned is invalid, he is alleged to have beaten White prostitutes, and was an avowed communist who had many of his speeches written by one (((Stanley Levinson.))) Like all the other figures in the Swindle Whites Movement, the so-called “reverend” or the even more laughable “Dr.” Martin Luther King was a FRAUD. Rosa Parks was a FRAUD as well. Call it the Swindle Whites Movement or the Jewish Coup of America, but it was anything but a “civil rights movement,” and the intentions were sinister & evil and had nothing to do with bringing about equality and brotherhood.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  63. @Priss Factor

    Thanks, watching that incredible feat of engineering by brilliant young minds is the most enjoyable 15 minutes I’ve spent in quite a while!

  64. @Priss Factor

    Well, I live in Brazil, and I don’t speak of race in political terms, ever. Since — depending on what one says, and at times regardless of what one says — one would be breaking the law here, I have conditioned myself completely to evade this issue.

    But I think I may reply to your comment in general terms, saying that I don’t worry about murder rates going sky high. I am also pro-abortion, 100%.

    • Replies: @Clyde
  65. @Jim Bob Lassiter

    The French also do not capitalise. In this case, however, he is referring in English to proper nomen for groups of people, as he did with Asians & AAs, so it would be more correct to capitalise Blacks and Whites as well, AP style book notwithstanding. I daresay my English, though learned in an American school and corrected by a British-English spellchecker, is almost certainly first among the several in which I function.

  66. Polemeros says:

    “The Civil Rights Movement”.

    A Trojan horse and one of the greatest scams in history.

    • Replies: @Jett Rucker
  67. Agent76 says:

    09/22/2016 Indoctrination: 35 Years of the US Department of Education

    Since 1980, during the Carter Administration, America’s K-12 education system has come under increasing control by the dictates of the federal Department of Education (DOE) with failing results, taxing states and filtering the money through Washington to return a portion of it back to the states.

    https://mises.org/wire/indoctrination-35-years-us-department-education

    Nov 5, 2019 The Homeschooling Advantage Explained. With Guest Gary North

    Homeschooling may not work for everybody, but the remarkable Ron Paul Homeschool Curriculum, explained here by Dr. Gary North, has amassed an incredible track record guiding young people to academic success in just a few short years. Feeling that something is really wrong with the state school system?

  68. TKK says:
    @TheTrumanShow

    After I thought about it, as Mr. Dolan points out…I think we are heading that way- blacks are increasingly immune from the laws that whites must follow.

    I keep looking for property to buy to escape, but as I posted here a few months ago…a strange phenomenon. I wanted the brain trust here to help me figure out. (Seriously).

    I would find affordable properties in deep WV mountains. Under 200K. I have to work a lot. By time I could sit down and get my bearings to study the property, it would be under contract.

    Within a few hours- under contract. How? Some were foreclosures. That’s a long process just to bid. Someone….is buying up affordable homes in rural WV. Within hours that they hit the MLS. About 48 so far….gone. I even bought the study materials (not cheap) to take the WV/Uniform Bar Exam.

    It is sinister. There are no jobs in these areas. Who is buying the properties?

    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
    , @RVBlake
  69. Jiminy says:
    @Alfred

    You are correct in finding very few blacks in private employment. Most would be working for the government. Jobs like driving around checking to see if aboriginal kids have had breakfast before school come to mind. Often they’re hard to define, just involving driving and talking to other blacks- socialising. They love their socialising. It’s their culture. The neighbours have a weekly ice party, lasting into the wee hours. This week it ended up with a fight on the street with full beer bottles being smashed in the middle of the road, right outside my house. They left the glass there for everybody to enjoy.
    Today the wife calls out to me to come and see the latest. The clown drove his car through the glass and got a flat tyre. He had to get somebody to change it for him as the procedure taxed his brain too much.
    He’s probably still wondering how it happened. Such is life.

  70. Amon says:
    @Justvisiting

    Public education worked, it did for a long time and lifted up millions of poor whites and allowed us to build the best civilisations in history.

    It did not start to fail until education was infiltrated by jewish bolshevism and zionists hell bent on subverting education to produce millions of useful idiots.

    • Agree: dindunuffins
  71. @Robert Weissberg

    I believe that’s called apartheid and I’m down with it as long as what happens in the ‘hood stays in the ‘hood.

  72. @Ray Caruso

    I am sure that once American blacks return to Africa the locals will ask them, “Why did you leave?” No African can possibly accept any explanation and, I suspect, that after a few months those from American will insist on returning. A whole new meaning to the “Right of Return.”

  73. @Jim Bob Lassiter

    I’ve written an entire book on the hopelessness of closing this gap. And spent decades in the academy witnessing it first hand. Closing this gap is merely an excuse for yet more totalitarian measures.

  74. @Dweezil the Weasel

    “Sadly, some are bringing their syphilitic thinking and leftist politics with them.”

    I like your turn of phrase.

    “They will be dealt with over time.”

    I hope so, but I am not convinced based on what I have been observing in the Southeast over many years. Perhaps folks in your neck of the woods are cut from a better bolt of cloth. “over time” ?? Why put off until tomorrow what can be done today?

  75. anarchyst says:
    @Trinity

    Here are true stories about “icons” of the so-called “civil rights” movement . . .

    [MORE]

    There is much more to the “Emmett Till” story that is not widely known. Of course, killing him made him into a “martyr” of the black “civil-rights” movement, but–it is not generally known that Emmett Till was a strapping young man of about 160 lbs.–NOT a “little boy” as some media types tried to portray him as. He was a known womanizer and attempted to take his cocky “Chicago ways” in dealing with women to the Deep South. He was sent to live with relatives in the South because his Chicago relatives could not handle him. He had a “cocky attitude” and bragged about “getting it on” with white women–not a good idea in the South. . . According to published accounts, Mr. Till did not just “whistle” at a white woman, but grabbed, manhandled and fondled a married white woman. In Southern culture, this was, and still is, the ultimate form of disrespect. Despite Mr. Till’s relatives’ attempts to spirit him “out of town” to avoid retribution by the woman’s relatives and townspeople, his cocky attitude “got in the way”, similar to the way that “young master Trayvon’s” attitude got him killed. Despite being given numerous “chances” to apologize for his behavior, he was defiant to the end. IF he had apologized for his behavior, he would still be alive today. In fact, one of his killers was a black man.
    It is interesting to note that Emmett Till’s father was executed by the U S military for multiple rapes. Maybe “the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree” . . .

    Rosa Parks was not the “ordinary” black woman that so-called historians made her to be. She was an organizer for the NAACP and was “planted” in order to advance the cause of black “civil-rights” to which she was successful.

    Approximately a year previous to Rosa Parks’ “bus ride” and refusal to vacate her seat, a REAL ordinary black woman did the same thing. This black woman received NO publicity or support from the NAACP or other black “civil-rights” organizations. You see, she was an unmarried black woman with children. According to the black civil-rights crowd, this would not do. They wanted someone who was “squeaky clean” without any “baggage”. In fact, the “white guy” sitting behind her was part of the “set-up”. He was a UPI reporter, contracted to “stage” the event…not only that, in the photo there is no one else on the bus. Ms. Parks could have sat wherever she wanted.
    Hence, Rosa Parks made (fabricated) history . . .

    Martin Luther (Michael) King was well-known for frequenting prostitutes, beating and abusing them while exclaiming that he “finally felt like a white man”. His own associates have stated as such. He also plagiarized his college papers and doctoral thesis. Of course, this was overlooked because of his status. King was also a communist.

    Jesse Jackson used to brag to his associates on how he would spit in the food of white patrons of the restaurant he worked at.

    There are many more fabrications of history that were used to lend “legitimacy” to the so-called “civil-rights” movement . . .

    More to come . . .

    • Thanks: Trinity
    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    , @throtler
  76. Trinity says:

    Whites who talk about dividing up America just NEVER LEARN, DO THEY? And WHAT OR WHO GIVES THESE PEOPLE THE RIGHT TO DICTATE TO WHITE SOUTHERNERS TO GIVE UP THE SOUTH AND MOVE AWAY TO THE FRIGID NORTH? YOU YANKEES LOVE THE NEGRO AND OTHER NONWHITES SO MUCH, WHY DON’T YOU TAKE THEM? Bunch of HYPOCRITES in Boston couldn’t take it when it came to their children having to go to school with Blacks, but it was just fine and dandy to make “racist redneck” children attend school with Blacks, wasn’t it?

    WHEN ARE YOU COWARDLY AND IGNORANT WHITES GOING TO LEARN THAT RUNNING AWAY FROM THE PROBLEMS THAT MANY OF YOU YANKEES AND EVEN WHITE SOUTHERNERS LIKE WHISPERING BILL CLINTON, HYPOCRITE STROM THURMOND, JIMMY CARTER AND OTHERS HELPED CREATE ISN’T GOING TO SOLVE SHIT.

    Whites could move to Mars and the negro, Jew, and other assorted parasitic nonwhites would follow, that is they would follow you as long as you keep kissing their ass and serving them like the slaves the average White person has become. My gawd, Whites will voluntarily self censor themselves, apologize on their hands and knees when they unintentionally think about looking out for their own interests instead of looking out for Blacks, Browns, Jews, Yellows, etc.

    DIVIDE the LAND? Man, kiss my ass. WHY do I want to give up pleasant temperatures and a mild climate of the Deep South and yes, Florida is the DEEP SOUTH even though it is about as Southern now as Jew Yawk from Sarasota to Miami/The Keys. The negro was so persecuted and so persecuted in the South today, but yet this is where the negro wishes to live? haha. The negro likes the South because the food is more to his liking, the climate is more hospitable, etc., In short, the negro likes the South for the same reason all you Yankee snowbirds like it. Negroes and Yankees alike are flocking to the Carolinas, North Georgia, Tennessee in droves, and we know what happened to Florida. I even thought about moving to Wyoming/Montana/Idaho, etc., and still it crosses my mind, but the hell with that, why should I?

    • Agree: Patriot
  77. @TKK

    Peter and Lydia Brimelow bought a real plum close to Harper’s Ferry.

  78. Trinity says:
    @Jim Bob Lassiter

    “syphilitic.” haha. I am currently reading a book on baseball great, Ted Williams. According to the book, that word was one of Williams favorites along with many other words that I will not print. Seems Teddy Ballgame cursed like a sailor. Never knew that Williams mother was Mexican either. His brother was much shorter, Williams definitely was a tall man at almost 6’4″ so looks like Ted took after his White father. Another interesting fact about Williams is that his feet were different sizes, he wore a size ten one foot and an eleven on the other. Small feet for a dude that was nearly 6’4″.

  79. Don’t forget that Soviet Union has had 70 years of indoctrination and…it all collapsed like a house of cards.

  80. It’s hopeless. Blacks are extremely inferior mentally and everybody knows it.

    1. Black-americans come in last in all standardized tests. Asian-americans do fine on all the tests so it’s not due to cultural bias in the tests.

    2. Africa is by far the poorest and most backward continent on the planet. All of black africa is now controlled by blacks and has been for decades so it’s not due to racism.

    3. No black has ever won a Science Nobel Prize unless you count one in 1979 for the semi-science of economics. They have won many nobels in non-brain fields like Peace and also in Literature so it is not due to racism.

    4. Out of 1552 chess grandmasters in the world, only THREE are black.

    • Replies: @dindunuffins
  81. @Vinnie O

    “””Do you know NOTHING? Doing well at school is the ARCH-typical example of “acting White””””

    You’ve been brainwashed. The media invented that explanation for why blacks don’t even try to do well in school. The real reason is they can’t keep up with the whites and asians and it’s embarrassing.
    Easier on the ego to say “i’m not even gonna try”.

  82. AceDeuce says:
    @anarchyst

    The female who protested the back of the bus treatment wasn’t “an unmarried woman with children”, per se. She was unmarried, but she was a girl. Her name was Claudette Colvin, a high school student who was a protégé of Rosa Parks. She was dropped as a spokesperson because, by the time of her trial a few months after the incident, she had gotten pregnant, at the age of 15. She was also dark-skinned (important to blacks) and relatively unattractive, and was known to be loud, aggressive, and foul-mouthed.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  83. Anon[788] • Disclaimer says:

    Mr Weissberg should try a little proof-reading before he publishes
    his articles on this site. This article is illegible in some parts,
    and the typo (?) errors render it as so much incoherent rambling!

  84. Patriot says:

    60 yrs! 60yrs!!!!

    That’s 2 full generations, and still the gap has not closed, although we’ve tried everything we could think of and spent $ Trillions of Dollars.

    There is virtually no majority-African place on Earth that is not a complete economic and social disaster, be it in the USA, England, France, Brazil, or Hati. Even African countries that were never colonize are disasters. This is because IQ is mostly genetically determined, just like skin color.

    On the other hand, some mixed Black and White or Asian individuals have relatively high IQs, and good for them. But the problem is that their children often don’t (regression to the mean).

    The racial gap cannot be fixed, because we can’t yet fix genes.

    • Replies: @Clyde
  85. @Priss Factor

    That is a good description of the fall of civilization once a parasitic species is introduced.

  86. Four simple words: “Integration does not work.”

    If we’ve learned nothing else over the last 65 years, it has been this. It’s time to undo the mistakes of the past.

    1. Give blacks their own institutions, including schools, to run or not run as they see fit. Indeed, if they don’t want to educate their children at all, the decision belongs to them, as do the consequences of a such decision.

    2. For all the resistence to the idea of reparations, it might be wise for white America to consider a one-time reparations payment of some uniform and fixed amount to each African American – on the condition that acceptance of said payment represents an acknowledgment that no further claims of any kind may ever again be made against the U.S. taxpayer. Whether they spend their reparation payment on valuable assets or on drugs and bling is up to them, but once paid, that’s it. No more, ever again.

    3. As a condition of 1 and 2 above, require blacks to move to a geographic location that consists of one or more U.S. states, or portions of existing states, that have been set aside specifically for them. True, these might seem somewhat reminiscent of the “townships,” writ large, of Apartheid era South Africa, but they will in fact more closely resemble Liberia: populated and governed entirely by blacks, not a white face to be found anywhere. No more evil white racists to oppress them! Free at last!

    Impractical, you say? No, INEVITABLE as part of coming great national breakup.

    • Agree: anarchyst
  87. Wally says:
    @Chris Moore

    The fact remains:

    This IS a Marxist Revolution
    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/10/vasko-kohlmayer/this-is-a-marxist-revolution/
    Contemporary leftwing schools of thought are offshoots of the teachings of Karl Marx

    “You may have not heard of most of them, but they have been massively influential in the world of ideas. These ideas have in turn influenced the way we conduct our everyday affairs. Critical race theory is one such example. This Marxist-spawned system has become the de facto worldview in many university departments, particularly in the humanities and social sciences. Astonishingly, critical race theory had been routinely taught to employees of the federal government under the guise of sensitivity training. It was only last month that President Trump, by executive order, put an end to this blatant form of Marxist indoctrination.”


    “By their own admission, their purpose isn’t to heal this country, it’s to rip it apart and remake it into a more Marxist kind of society… A 2015 video has resurfaced proving that the entire intent of the Black Lives Matter movement is Marxism. As you can see during the interview with the Real News Network, BLM founder Patrisse Cullors admits she and her cohorts are ‘trained Marxists.”

  88. Mike Tre says:

    The civil rights movement was the beginning of the reversal of western civilization.

  89. RVBlake says:
    @TKK

    I have enjoyed living in northern Wisconsin for the past couple of decades. Rural living, lack of vibrancy, I’m retired so have not kept up with employment prospects. Prices are very reasonable. The biggest drawback for newcomers is weather…Winter temps can be formidable for a couple of weeks in January, snowfall not unreasonable. Lots of woods and lakes.

  90. We can have an advanced, civilized society or an expensive daycare/amusement park for orcs.

    But not both.

    • Agree: Trinity, GeneralRipper
  91. Jett Rucker says: • Website

    “extra’s”? (Greengrocer’s plural)

    I just hope the book is edited better than this article was.

  92. Jett Rucker says: • Website
    @Polemeros

    Second-place only to the Holocaust.

  93. anarchyst says:
    @AceDeuce

    Thank you for the clarification. She was still the “first”…
    Regards,

  94. partacus says:
    @Vinnie O

    where I live the trash is collected by blond blokes and all staff in gov. offices (federal, provincial, agency) is PoC.
    and we have no riots. when honky is the slave we get peace.

    • Replies: @Jett Rucker
  95. Jett Rucker says: • Website
    @partacus

    PoC?
    Where do you live? Your comment is … unclear, at least to unlettered such as I. And such, I suspect, are numerous, although most are less curious than I.

  96. @astro3

    The only answer is to have a non-racist or non-racial education policy: so those marking the exam papers do not know the racial identity of the students: they would not have the names or identities of the students on the exam papers.

    For two years now I am grading grad students’ exams that do not have names on them, only numbers. Tell you what, I love it. My only bias always was against stupidity. However, you cannot prove that if you can connect the exam papers to a particular student. Now, thank goodness, I can’t. So, no Latisha can accuse me of a bias against her color. The grading is absolutely fair. Do you think they would like that? I don’t think so. Here is why.

    For a long time classical orchestras were accused of bias, of favoring white men. They changed their audition practice: now they hear the music, but don’t see who is playing. Guess what? The fraction of women indeed soared, but the fraction of blacks did not change. Go to any decent opera and look into the orchestra pit. At least half of musicians are women, something like 20-25% are Asians, but there are virtually no blacks. Professional playing of a musical instrument requires many years of hard work, even keeping in shape after getting to the top requires constant grueling practice. So, lazy people are at a disadvantage. Now self-appointed “progressives” push to abandon current practice of 100% fair auditions, as this practice does not give unfair advantage to lazy and dumb people. I think any number system in exam papers would suffer the same fate: “progressive” scum does not want people to be rewarded by merit, they want quotas. That’s why they use the term “under-represented minority”. Meritocracy and quotas are mutually exclusive.

    • Agree: Patriot
    • Thanks: Peripatetic Itch
  97. Anon[279] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s ironic that these people, motivated entirely by the horror that achievement might be connected to biology, have been the ones to make the conclusion so inescapable over the last sixty years.

  98. Patriot says:
    @mocissepvis

    ABSOUTELY NOT.

    The solution for both races is for all Blacks to return to Africa, where they will finally control every aspect of their lives and be free of White racism. Africa is 4 times the size of the USA and has the most natural resources of all continents. You can grow every known crop in Africa. Blacks, show us what you can do — go create a utopia in Africa — no police, no jails, no tests, make and enforce your on laws and live your own culture.

    American taxpayers should pay each African American $50,000 to return to Africa.
    We cannot exist together.

  99. @Robert Weissberg

    “Policing for blacks should reflect what blacks want”

    AND then what do blacks want? If policing doesn’t work AND they “want” something else then stop dialing 911, problem solved, no?

    Aren’t almost all cop interactions the result of 911 calls?

    • Replies: @GeneralRipper
  100. @Justvisiting

    Abolish the Rockefeller Foundation. That has been the major root of bad education.

    Educated slaves is an oxymoron, and Profits need slaves, both in production and consumption roles.

    “Separate but Equal”, in Alabama this was close to true. Public education for whites in Alabama was below the average of the US in the mid 1950s.

    College is a joke, Higher Education is now all about creating dumbed down debt slaves. Gross Debt Product.

  101. @Hang All Text Drivers

    “They have won many nobels in non-brain fields like Peace and also in Literature”…LMAO!! Peace and Literature…wow blacks and peace and lit…as in all lit up again maybe. And peace…what the hell do blacks know about peace.Maybe I should go ask that wondrously saintly NBA player..Meta World Peace…and then he would proceed to get into all out brawls with other players and fans alike. LOL

  102. @Patriot

    WAKANDA Forevaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

    • Replies: @Trinity
  103. Trinity says:
    @dindunuffins

    We wuz kangz and sheeit, yo.

    Kang George wuz a Black man, yo.

    Beethoven wuz a Black man, so wuz Shakespeare, yo.

    The Black man invented the light bulb, cuz, just axe Joe Biden, yo.

    • Agree: AKINDLE
  104. JWalters says:
    @Greta Handel

    I agree this article is somewhat less “whack-a-black”. In that more understanding vein, I agree it would indeed be ironic and tragic if our education process were degraded in the attempt to improve it. It would not be the first time. The education establishment made big mistakes with “new math” and “whole word” reading (abandoning phonics). But it isn’t just the education establishment. The medical establishment in the past has recommended eating refined flour and smoking cigarettes. Evidence, common sense, and scientific thoroughness must guide our efforts.

    It seems to me this article misses a couple of key points. First, it skims over the reality that the Afro American community has been subjected to widespread discrimination by the Euro American community since the days of slavery. Not all Euro Americans participated in this, and not all Afro Americans were subjected to it. But in the statistical aggregate it is an undeniable reality. This has included the CIA using the Afro American communities as distribution points for their illegal drug running operations.

    Second, it skims over the reality that a child’s environment is much more than their time in school, even with enrichment programs. So while brief enrichment programs have definite effects, those effects can easily fade when the enrichment program ends and the kids remain in their cognitively and nutritionally impoverished environment. In other words, this problem is inherently very large.

    It seems to me people on both sides of this debate need to be more open to the details of the situation. Proponents of the Afro American children need to acknowledge that all critiques of Afro American kids do NOT stem from racial bias. And those who criticize their efforts need to acknowledge that there still exists racial bias in SOME Euro Americans, and that SOME effort to eliminate its effect is sensible and fair. So-called “white trash” kids deserve the same understanding.

    • Replies: @dindunuffins
  105. Loup-Bouc says:
    @Biff Whitebread

    I enjoyed your writing and wit and appreciate the intellect they imply. And I acknowledge that your plaint accords with much of ghetto life.

    But your carcinogenic bigotry — its perception-crippling malignant psychic neoplasm — denies you recognition of the rather large, ordinary-decent-folk segment of Black society, even of Black ghettos.

    I — a very “White,” highly educated and notably successful law professor and physician — roomed with kindly Black kids in an orphanage when I was 6 (in 1946); and in 1960-1962 and 1964-1967, I lived in Philadelphia Black ghettos. In those times, I encountered Black slime pretending to be human. But also I knew many hard-working responsible Black individuals who, though not bright, well-educated, or specially accomplished in any endeavor, sported good social graces, respected the law, and did not live on the dole.

    In my professional career (law professor since 1972, physician since 1995), I have encountered quite enough despicable Whites and decent Blacks. I assess individuals according to their actual behaviors, not their skin-tones, hair-textures, or ethnicities.

    Except sometimes, but seldom, a bit of old-fashioned acoustic-guitar blues, I dislike Black “culture,” even contemn some of it (e.g., wearing pants so low the wearer’s ass shows, and rap and hip hop, and end-zone demonstrations in NFL games, and using foul language as if punctuation, and “Ebonics,” and, now, BLM). But mostly I can avoid Black “culture” and live in my world of logic, law, medicine, fine literature, Johann Sebastian Bach, and European art films, like Tous Les Matins Du Monde, https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&q=Tous+Les+Matins+Du+Monde&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8.

    Much more important: I have enjoyed knowing a few Black colleagues whose fine minds, good taste, and laudable professional and social values blessed my professional experience. They were just very few; but very few too were the virtuous Whites among my colleagues.

    Most humans are contemnible (and I mean “contemnible,” which is NOT a misspelling). Just so, as Marquis de Sade refused a judgeship because he was capable of committing every crime respecting which he would be called to judge another human, I will not defile my self-respect by prejudging anyone on a premise stupid as a race-addressed relative-frequency-statistics-calculation set on invalid, unreliable “data” like your bigotry-warped perceptions of the whole population of American Blacks.

    I regret the loss you suffer for your bias.

    • Thanks: Majority of One
    • Replies: @PolarBear
    , @Anonymous
  106. Cato says:
    @Greta Handel

    You still need to step up the proofreading

    Yes. Makes a big difference. You would never have sent this to a journal, where the referees would have sneered at your typos. What you write is infinitely wise; do not send it marred to market.

    Hey, Unz readers!! Could someone out there volunteer to provide proofreading services to Dr. Weissberg?

  107. @interesting

    “Policing for blacks should reflect what blacks want”

    What’s all up on a nigga’s mind, yo?

  108. Let’s face it in today’s America a black man has no need of education not the White man’s version anyway. It’s all a plot to get the brothers to “act white”. After all they have been taught by their handlers their natural calling is rapping and drug dealing, so maybe just a little math so they can get that gram/kilogram thing down. Take as an example poor Alice Johnson just a poor single mom selling a few joints in the hood to feed her kids or at least that’s what the ACLU, Trump, the MSM and co-Presidents Jared and Yael would have you think. Poor Alice another victim of White injustice. In reality Alice was a major drug dealer, major as in multi-million dollar dealer connected to Colombian smugglers based in Texas. Charged and convicted of Drug Dealing, Money Laundering and Structuring she got life. This is the head of a crime family with 16 underlings and no Rico charge? A visit from Kim and Kanye to the “Great White Father” and “PUFF” poor Alice walks. There has got to be a book and movie deal in the works. I guess Orangeman is the new Black.

  109. @Jim Bob Lassiter

    True that, Mr. Lassiter. Thank you for the compliment. Procrastination is indeed a thief of time. However, the balloon will not go up for sure until 11/4-11/5. Remember that popular Christmas ditty: “…he’s makin’ a list, checking it twice…” . That is what is going on in my A/O. We’re waiting. Hatchets are scoured and cartridge boxes are filled. Be of good cheer. Plan accordingly.

  110. Fixed a few author oversights for ya’:

    “if John owned three slaves, and sold two into bondage…”

    “if Jacob owned three slaves, and sold two into bondage…”

    “Relying on help from the Southern Poverty Law Center…”

    “Relying on ‘help’ from the (((Southern Poverty Lie Center)))…”

    It’s funny how, there at the end, you used a basketball analogy because as I was reading this piece I was imagining how it would go down if it was suddenly decided that there aren’t enough 5’3″ kikes (cough, Ben Shapiro) in the NBA, so the league threw money at the problem for 50 years, only to find out that, amazingly, 5’3″ Yids just don’t do as well in the realm of basketball as 6’9″ Negroes do. Who’da thunk it?!

    That’s what black Americans are compared to their white American counterparts; mental midgets. No amount of shekels are gonna change that.

    • Replies: @TheTrumanShow
  111. Sunshine says:
    @Trinity

    Absolutely! As much as blacks are a problem, the true evil is the carpetbagging, loudmouth, hypocritical, uncouth Yankee. Amen!

    • Replies: @Trinity
  112. @Ray Caruso

    I would point out every bastard is, by definition, illegitimate.

    Ok, as a legitimate bastard, I have to quibble here. Doesn’t this depend entirely on the intended meaning of the word “bastard”?

    NOUN
    informal
    1. an unpleasant or despicable person.

    archaic
    derogatory
    2. a person born of parents not married to each other.

    ADJECTIVE
    1. (of a thing) no longer in its pure or original form; debased.

    So you see that it is entirely legitimate to call me a legitimate bastard..

    Segue: Isn’t “illegitimate” more offensive than “bastard”? How could a kid not be legitimately a kid? Is he a monkey? Bastard, on the other hand, is simply a factual descriptor like peckerwood, cracker, or honkie.

  113. @G J T

    You fix the Jewish problem and all of this goes away.

    I hit “disagree” before realizing that I do agree wholeheartedly if your “Jewish problem” includes the retarded mythology that they sold my ancestors a millennium ago. We cannot carry the burdens of both an egalitarian sky fairy and a Stone Age subspecies population simultaneously.

  114. @Alfred

    There was a house with aboriginals across the street. There were awful screams by their women sometimes. I moved out.

    Are the abos as loud as the African Bantus are? The sheer amount of noise they make is equaled only by their violent impulsivity.

  115. @Trinity

    The bunch of hypocrites in Boston were Irish working class who were never asked.

  116. Clyde says:
    @Patriot

    There is virtually no majority-African place on Earth that is not a complete economic and social disaster, be it in the USA, England, France, Brazil, or Hati. Even African countries that were never colonize are disasters. This is because IQ is mostly genetically determined, just like skin color.

    Brazil is a mess but it does kind of OK.

    Brazil is classified as an upper-middle income economy by the World Bank[19] and a newly industrialized country,[20] with the largest share of global wealth in Latin America. It is considered an advanced emerging economy.[21] It has the ninth largest GDP in the world by nominal, and eighth by PPP measures.[22][23] It is one of the world’s major breadbaskets

    By no means is it a black nation though is is obviously very mixed as in mixed blood people.

    Since the arrival of the Portuguese in 1500, considerable genetic mixing between Amerindians, Europeans, and Africans has taken place in all regions of the country (with European ancestry being dominant nationwide according to the vast majority of all autosomal studies undertaken covering the entire population, accounting for between 65% to 77%).[448][449][450][451]

    • Replies: @dindunuffins
  117. Clyde says:
    @Priss Factor

    Great video! What got the most cheers were the controlled demolition of various buildings-structures built of dominoes.

  118. @Clyde

    European ancestry being dominant

  119. @JWalters

    “exists racial bias” in blacks as well. That’s what it’s always about. Their black ..negroid….and everything for them has to be 365 black. blacks are “racist” as well.Now negroids go into every country thinking everyone else has to mix with blacks so more can be black. That’s all they care about. So now in Japan you have blacks taking over and trying to erase Japans image and culture. blacks going into a homogeneous country like Japan , calling them racist and breeding their Japanese women and lowering their standards For what. blacks and stupid liberal White cucks telling them they have to let blacks destroy 1000’s of years of Japanese culture. blacks do not improve Japanese society , not one iota. With what, rap and sexual degeneracy. blacks walking into OTHER peoples countries and telling them their racist and trying to destroy their peoples and countries. What a joke.

    • Replies: @JWalters
  120. @tomo

    Young grads I met in SF (from some of the best schools in USA) did not even know that plants need to be watered to survive

    I would guess as well they do not know that plants convert CO2 (carbon dioxide) to plant tissue — you know, the stuff we call food when put it in our mouth and swallow. Most probably they don’t know that the abundance of CO2 is mostly the limiting factor in plant growth. Or that plants need less water if they have more CO2. And they probably don’t know that CO2 is often deliberately conflated with polluting carbon (the black stuff that destroys your lungs) in alarmist circles.

    But I’m sure they all know that fossil-fuel carbon causes climate change and climate change is Bad, Bad, Bad. If nothing else it will soon cause sea levels to rise and swamp the Obama’s $14 million cottage on Martha’s Vineyard./s

  121. Trinity says:
    @Sunshine

    I have seen other comments before about giving away land to parasitic Jews, Blacks, Mexicans, etc.

    The idea that we, Whites that is, the very people that built this nation from nothing, and yes, the Southwest that America took from Mexico was largely wilderness and sparsely populated, so it isn’t as if America took land that the Mexicans were in the process of doing anything with. White America built California, Arizona, Texas, etc.

    The idea of balkanizing America into separate nations divided by race, political ideology, etc., is another display of how Whites have been turned into GUTLESS COWARDS. Whites started running decades ago and where has it taken them. They keep moving one further exit down the road, another town over, and it might work for a year, perhaps a couple of years, but the parasites show up at their doorstep again and again.

    Back to Yankees. I have been called a Yankee on several occasions while living in South Carolina & Georgia, but only in a friendly way, I was never called a DAMN YANKEE. haha. I was originally born and grew up in Baltimore/Essex until I hit high school. My father moved back to Georgia where he was originally from, not that real Yankees consider Maryland part of the North, people in New York, and Boston definitely think of Maryland as the South, while Maryland is Yankee territory to anyone from Dixie. I fault my Southern kinfolk on some issues but I also call out the Yankee when he needs to face a reality check. The Yankee has a definite problem of thinking they can dictate and tell Southern folk how they must live, the Yankee somehow bestows himself as an all knowing dictator over us ignorant hillbillies down South. Never mind that the South has the largest population of any region of the country, even more populated than the Boston-Washington corridor, just not packed in so densely. Yes, I included Texas as part of the South, although, like my home state of Maryland, I don’t include Texas as a true Southern state. It is more Western than Southern IMO.

    Anyhow to end this long winded rant, I have seen more than one post about GIVING AWAY THE DEEP SOUTH TO NEGROES ON HERE AND MY GUESS IS THAT ONLY A WHITE SUBURBAN YANKEE COULD PROPOSE THAT ONE. Yet, it was the Yankee in New England, MOST lived in all white communities and only saw negroes when they went to Boston, etc. that were always telling us racist rednecks who had to deal with the negro at school, at work, fight off the negro when it came time to defend yourself from constant physical attacks, that we were just knuckle dragging ignorant country bumpkins for not accepting the Black race into our society. Here is my favorite, “we all bleed red,” haha, yes, so do fish, wolves, birds, turtles, etc. I spent over two decades watching Florida be totally ruined by snowbirds from Ohio, Indiana, New York, Wisconsin, Illinois, Massachusetts, etc. Of course they had help from the Cubans, Haitians, Mexicans, Puerto Ricans and the ringmasters in the Miami/Palm Beach/South Florida area, da Jooz.

    Now we see North Carolina is the next Florida, the Yankees are fleeing Florida now for places like South Carolina, North Carolina, Tennessee, northern Georgia, etc. They don’t want any part of the rest of Georgia because it is FILLED WITH THEIR BELOVED NEGRO BUDDIES. And now, Texas if being flooded with pompous know-it-all Californians, learn from us in the Deep South, Texas, set those fleeing Californians straight from the get-go. Tell them when don’t give two shits how you did things back in California. Welcome to Texas, become a Texan and get the hell out.

  122. AKINDLE says:

    UNZ is the same negro loving BS. This UNZ article picture has blacks looking over a computer like they invented the computer or internet or something. Really thoughtful, these criminal blacks. There are a lot more than 13%. You are using a statistic from the Vietnam era. I bet you think illegals are still 11 million. You don’t think the UNZ website kisses black A$$ when it posts articles from the Nation of Islam?

    • LOL: Clyde
    • Replies: @Trinity
  123. AKINDLE says:
    @Just another serf

    The US is all about criminal blacks. The Government only serves to pay blacks to procreate. Whites are just an afterthought, if any. Corporations, politicians, media sports all must have a gay black boyfriend down at the bathhouse. Both Biden and Trump cannot let black criminals out of jail fast enough. This country turned disgusting.

  124. Trinity says:
    @AKINDLE

    I, too, think that 13% number is bullshit, but then again I live in the Deep South, so I am sure states like Wyoming, Idaho, and Montana you possibly don’t see that many Africans In America. Still, I think the African In America number is PURPOSELY DEFLATED AND AS REAL AS THE ILLEGAL INVADER NUMBER. I’m guessing that the illegal invader number can be multiplied by 3 and be more realistic. Definitely closer to 30-40 million than that 11 million bullshit. Another horseshit (((LIE))) is that all these Black females are having abortions????? What??? Not in my neck of the woods where it isn’t uncommon to have 32 year old Black grandmothers or a 30 something year old baby machine that pushes out 10 Black future dindu nuffins.

    • Agree: Clyde
  125. PolarBear says:
    @Loup-Bouc

    I too acknowledge some Blacks are decent. On the whole I see them as a net negative. Not just for their own actions but their effect of a Whites. You admit that Black culture is lower, I’m not sure a a few good Black colleagues is worth the downgrade. What do good Blacks contribute that good Whites don’t more often?

  126. @anonymous

    “This obsession with 13% of the population has to stop.”

    Unfortunately it has been embedded in the legal system. My solution — the next Republican controlled congress needs to pass a law which simply states:

    “The Fourteenth Amendment’s equal protection of the law requirement applies to individual persons and is not applicable to groups of persons simply because all members of the group share similar inherited characteristics.

    When determining whether the requirement for the equal protection of the law is met, no government agency nor court shall use as a criterion the proportion of the numbers of people in the general population who display any particular inherited characteristic.“

    • Agree: Majority of One
  127. Clyde says:
    @Brás Cubas

    In the 1980s the Brazilian surfistas were in common publications in the US such as People Magazine. How they would like to sniff paint fumes and ride on top of trains. Presented as wayward yoofs of course. These days the will be called aspiring rappers.

  128. @Wally

    “Move out of black areas and into white areas.”

    But then their relatives and acquaintances follow them, and we’re screwed again.

  129. Weissburd makes some good points but some seem outweighed by several weaknesses in his article that need to be tightened up to make them more credible. For example:

    Weissburd says:
    No element of American culture is more axiomatic than the link between education and upward mobility.

    True, in part, but what Weissburd does not mention is the axiomatic link between upward mobility and white protectionism and supremacy, such as the white job reservation/favoritism system of white unions that prevailed into the 1980s, and in some cases, under various disguises still continues today. That link also shows up in the educational system- including inferior Jim Crow education, and sandbagging blacks into crumbling high-poverty ghetto areas with matching crumbling, high-poverty schools. It’s a good deal for white people, who can extend their gains even further on tables already groaning with consolidated advantage.

    ————— ——————————– —–
    At least until the 1960s, the education and economic progress nexus was beyond dispute..

    As was the white protectionist/supremacist nexus which did not end in the 1960s.

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    Civil rights organizations thus reasonably zeroed in on educational equality, and by the mid-1960s trillions were flowing into schools promoting racial uplift. There were free meals (“can’t learn on an empty stomach”) plus countless programs targeting “root causes” such as Head Start. A vast close-the-gap industry emerged, and every proposal seemed sure-fired.

    This is a massive distortion. What Weissburd conveniently doesn’t mention is that the “trillions flowing” to schools in the 1960s benefited mostly white kids, including the millions growing up in mostly white suburbs. These suburbs in turn, were financed in part by black tax dollars extracted for the vast new networks of highways and roads built, that in numerous cities devastated and destroyed black neighborhoods, dispossessing tens of thousands of black families. In addition, the tens of millions spent on new school construction were greedily consumed by mostly white labor that excluded significant black participation.

    As for programs like Head Start and free school meals, these heavily benefited white people. Head Start for example is between 25% and 33% Non Hispanic white. Black numbers are as high as they are because they are among the recipients with the highest poverty. What is curious is the high number of white beneficiaries, given white wealth around 14 times that of blacks and average income over 50% higher than blacks.

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    the massively funded Title I, Part A of the Elementary and Secondary Education Act and President George Bush’s No Child Left Behind that mandated clear metrics for progress and incentives. Experts announced that black students could only learn from black teachers or that school textbooks needed more black faces and African American history. And on and on, endlessly but all had at least some reasonable relationship to boosting learning.

    Another bit of distortion. For one thing again, the major beneficiaries of the Elementary and Secondary Education Act are white, not only white kids, but including nice salaries for mostly white teachers and administrators, and nice money given to mostly white workers and contractors when new schools were built or refurbished. Mostly white state and local regimes controlled administration of the federal funds, ensuring that they benefited mostly white people. In fact it took strong non-discrimination civil rights enforcement, including the threat of withholding funds that forced white regimes to significantly help black children. These white regimes dismissed thousands of black teachers and shut down some good black schools when desegregation came about, and pocketed new federal dollars for mostly white benefit- though they dared not use open Jim Crow as in the past.

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    Now, over 60 years past initial efforts, it is clear that no elixir performs as advertised, regardless of ideological pedigree or how many trillions are “invested in the children” (the inflation adjusted spending on education since the 1960s has increased by 280%).

    Of course no “magic elixir” emerges. It could not given over a century of inferior Jim Crow education foisted on blacks and favoring whites on almost every measure. And keep in mind, that the 280% mostly benefited white people, and was administered for the most part to ensure primary white benefit.

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    Putting the civil rights revolution into reverse, so to speak. This educational foolishness may well have been invented by the same egalitarian zealots who insist that the cure for black criminality requires abolishing the police.

    Actually no credible liberal organizations or leaders have called for actually “abolishing” the police. The call is to abolish certain funding formulas and police practices and for redirecting a portion of police funding to preventative measures and services, rather than have armed police show up for every local problem. The exact proportion can be debated, but let’s be honest about the issue rather than distort it.

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    The most notorious of these misguided “leveling” policies is forcing schools to discipline students by racial quota—non-blacks are to be discipline at the same rates as blacks. This policy officially began in a 2014 “Dear Colleague” letter from President Obama’s Department of Education Office of Civil Rights Enforcement claiming that school districts that disproportionately suspended, expelled of otherwise penalize blacks pupils were in violation of federal anti-discrimination law, and thus risked losing federal funding.

    Actually the data has been clear for some time, long BEFORE Obama, that black kids were being disproportionately suspended, expelled or disciplined, after controlling for frequency, seriousness of offense etc. Mostly white run school regimes administered the rules in a biased way. The Obama admin is among the first that actually paid significant attention to an issue festering over a decade prior.

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    Though Obama’s letter was only “guidance” and thus lacked the full force of law, no savvy school administrator failed to get the message—unequal punishment invited federal scrutiny, and arguing was likely to be an expensive, unwinnable battle.

    Naïve at best. What is not mentioned is that many school administrations moved on the issue because THEY WERE at fault, and wanted to avoid too much dirty linen being exposed, hence the quick memorandums of understanding or token adjustments in many places. Hard data, not rhetoric, does show such disproportionate discipline, with white kids often receiving a pass or lesser punishment than black kids receive for the same or lesser offences.
    https://www.pnas.org/content/116/17/8255

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    Nor was this “guidance” an idle threat—under Obama some 350 school districts with 10 million children were investigated for unequal discipline. The only escape was to show that unequal treatment could be carefully justified on a case-by-case basis, which included keeping track of incidents involving all students, not just offending blacks, a near-impossible burden.

    Not really. The Obama Admin got involved because black parents went over the heads of local school regimes when they saw their kids being more harshly singled out, while white kids got a pass or easier treatment for the same offence. And admin is no “impossible” burden. School records have long been computerized. A student getting discipline already had his offenses logged before Obama came along. They had to tweak what they were already doing by documenting race. Extra effort- yes. “Impossible burden”? Puhleeze..

  130. This policy of “kindness” undermined the discipline necessary for learning and certainly did not end the “schoolhouse to jailhouse” pipeline. . Disaster ensued as black students quickly learned that they were free to act out, behave violently and otherwise make schools unmanageable.

    Disaster? Really? Says who? besides the usual right wing propagandists? As usual the article has little actual data to back its claims. There has been no “explosion” in black disciplinary problems.

    ————— ——————————– —–

    Fortunately, however, these mental health-related debilitations are treatable by such measures as explaining how American social policy, not personal behavior, is responsible for the students’ poverty. Lesson might include the history of how blacks were denied benefits under the GI Bill, redlining and suburbanization that would, it is assumed, lift the burden of enervating self-blame off the shoulders of these distressed youngsters.

    This is another distortion. School kids have been getting a much more accurate US history in the past few decades which includes ACTUAL history, not right-wing propaganda like how happy the slaves were, or how the Civil War had nothing to do with slavery, etc. REAL history is what white right-wing propagandists want to sweep under the rug- and oh yes, it does include dismal histories of denial or hindering of GI Bill benefits, redlining, devastating “urban renewal”, vicious white violence and a host of other things. This is nothing new. School kids since the late 1970s were quite familiar with such things as Jim Crow and the KKK. It is nothing new, and the example Wesiiburd invokes does not at all claim that such history helps black mental problems. Weissburd is sorely out of touch with what is happening in schools today.

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    With proper instruction poverty becomes something to be overcome by collective, not personal, struggle. To this egalitarian end, high schools must also stop tacking students into courses that don’t prepare them for college while ending remedial instruction that delays graduation.

    Actually collective action is one of the key forces to overcome poverty, as conservative Thomas Sowell shows in his many writings. Jews for example had a massive collective network that boosted their economic development, such as the peddling networks that embraced and sponsored poor Jews from Europe with housing, merchandise, equipment, accounting and financial support, to simple assignment of said Jews to peddling routes as they pushed further out from the urban areas, and ports. A Jewish immigrant unable to even speak English fresh off the boat did not have to build all these things from scratch. Likewise the white Irish built or brought huge collective networks- the most significant being the Catholic Church, and the well organized, if corrupt Irish political and government machines that aided the Irish economic and social rise out of poverty. The notion that poverty is overcome by some sort of independent Horatio Alger individualism is simplistic right-wing pablum.

    ————— ——————————– —–

    Such snake oil prescriptions are hardly limited to the academy. Consider, for example, the current push in Loudon, County, Virginia, one of America’s wealthiest areas, to teach all about institutional racism along with traditional K-5 school subjects. Relying on help from the Southern Poverty Law Center, county teachers will use history and social science classes (called “teaching tolerance”) to show how slavery has been fundamental to American society (which is called “diverse democracy”). Not said too loudly, is that the entire endeavor derives from critical race theory,

    More laughable claims. Actually every credible modern history book shows that slavery WAS fundamental to US society, not only in the south, but in the North as well. This is nothing new, and does not derive from “critical race theory.” Textbooks presenting an HONEST history of the US, long before any significant “critical race theory” freely admit the fact. Fast-forward to the 2010s, the 2005 book “Complicity: How the North Promoted, Prolonged, and Profited from Slavery” for example, which is sympathetic to the south on some counts, exposes the hypocrisy of the white north, which profited massively from slavery, yet so often condemned the South. Likewise Thomas Sugrue’s 2008 book- “Sweet Land of Liberty: The Forgotten Struggle For Civil Rights in The North” shows that long BEFORE Martin Luther King gained fame in the 1957 Montgomery Bus Boycott, there were bitter battles for DECADES against Jim Crow in the hypocritical north that involved boycotts, marches, political lobbying, court cases and self-defense against northern white violence.

    It is only in recent years that this struggle is receiving its due recognition and scholarship to that end is straightforward honest narrative history telling what really happened, not “critical race theory.” The charge of “critical race theory” too often is a dodge used by conservatives to dishonestly dismiss and whitewash away the actual facts.

    As for Loudon it has been the scene of several racial incidents, most often directed against black students by white ones. The Loudon program includes a few boilerplate “diversity” workshops, but the key problem is not “diversity” but the fact that Loudon also has a problem with disportionate discipline-giving white students a pass or easier treatment, than black students with the same or lesser offences. Loudon got exposed when black parents started filing complaints at higher levels. Weissburd tries to “spin” the story as one of 5-year old kids learning “critical race theory” but this is a phony distortion. Its disproportionate discipline that is at issue. And credible studies show it to be a real problem.
    https://www.pnas.org/content/116/17/8255

    ————— ——————————– —–
    Now five-year olds will learn about “social justice” and have opportunities beginning in first grade to master “activism and action civics.” Moreover, the evils of slavery will hardly be sugar coated so the children will encounter material revealing scenes of rape and pedophilia together with the currently trendy topics of substance abuse, immigration and LGBTQ issues.

    All dubious. Few schools in the US are doing any of this. In fact texts are rather watered down and the most graphic details removed, and it has been so for decades. By the way school texts since the 1980s finally began being HONEST about white history, and laid out the evils of slavery, rather than the phony propaganda favored by right-wingers. But discussion of the evils of slavery are nothing “politically correct.” People who would be dismissed today as “fundamentalists” in the 1800s were among the key groups responsible for massive amounts of publicity on the very topic of slavery’s evils. They were absolutely right and their efforts were an essential part in bringing about the Abolition of the evil slavery system.

    ————— ——————————– —–
    This is in addition to classroom discussions on how ongoing injustices continue to disenfranchise and oppress today’s descendent of slaves. Predictably, many local parents are outraged by this racialization and have threatened to withdraw their children.

    Actually white people have long racialized schools and school curricula- as the distortion of the United Daughters Confederacy well attest. And white people have been withdrawing their kids from public schools since the 1960s so that they would not have to share classrooms with black kids, whose parents by the way, paid some taxes for local schools (including some suburban white ones in bigger districts), parks, etc but got miserable hand-me-down junk or outright denial of service in return.

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    The prelogical value of this endeavor is debatable. Will five and six-year olds accurately grasp complex terms like “racism” or “oppression”?

    This charge is laughable. Says who? What schools are dragooning 5 or 6 year olds into learning “critical race theory”? The answer is that no credible public school in the US is doing so. Curricula is controlled by state governments and busy teachers trying to meet state standards have little time for such things in elementary school. Weissburd has no clue what is actually going on in schools.

    ————— ——————————– —–

    Even college students struggle with these topics and turn them into mindless slogans. More likely, given how children learn, historical narratives will be reduced to “good” and “bad” people, and make no mistake, whites will be viewed as the evildoers who unfairly oppressed people of color. Propaganda is thus inherent, all claims to the contrary aside.

    Actually for decades on into the 1980s, white right-wing propagandists have distorted US history on numerous measures, led by such ideologues as the United Daughters of the Confederacy, which pressured successfully for slanted school textbook content and choices for decades. Among other things the slaves were content with their lot, and the Civil War had little to do with slavery, and other such right-wing claptrap.

    ————— ——————————– —–

    Fleeing whites means less government funding and with reduced budgets, gone will be the programs such as intensive tutoring that might help those lagging behind (wealthier whites can afford these extra’s on the private market).

    Weisburd is right here, but what he says is a decades old phenomenon. “Fleeing” whites did cause less funding and reduced budgets for local schools in heavily black zones. In fact as blacks finally gained began to gain a share of political power in the late 1970s, “white flight” ensured that their areas would be shortchanged of resources, or cut out of lucrative growth in the suburbs. The City of Birmingham for example became a majority black city in 1980, but by that time whites had shifted the bulk of the resources and opportunities out of the city, from the steel industry, to the growth in white suburbs. This pattern was repeated wherever blacks finally gained majorities- from Gary to Detroit. White flight also involved massive destruction of black neighborhoods to build new highways and roads, with construction deliberately targeting black areas for devastation. The many twists and turns of highways out of Birmingham for example are not by accident, but by deliberate white design, to spare white areas, and trashing black ones. Whites also made sure to locate the most undesirable land use activity (toxic dumps, railroad yards, abandoned factories, auto junkyards etc etc) in black areas, as they cruised to their shiny new white suburbs..

    ————— ——————————– —–

    There is also an instructional downside as schools blacken—more disorder, more crime and with these changes, top teachers will go elsewhere.

    Disorder and crime are not solely a product of blacks but of white greed and racism, the same racism and greed that shortchanged black schools for decades, segregated blacks into the worse poverty areas complete with lousy poverty schools, and fought against and/or diverted help from the federal government for black kids.

    ————— ——————————– —–

    Then there’s the opportunity costs of mixing woke ideology with the basics. An hour spend recounting how slaves really built America is an hour less for the three R’s unless everything is made woke—if John owned three slaves, and sold two into bondage….

    Laughable. Today’s public schools have little time to spend on “wokeness.” They are too busy trying to meet mandated state standards in math, science, reading and history. And by the way, almost every credible history shows that slavery did play a significant part in building America, north and south. That is straight fact, not “wokeness.” Indeed, people the very antithesis of “wokeness” freely acknowledged the importance of slavery to white livelihoods and profits. Who were these crazy people that would make such “politically correct” claims? These white people were called Confederates.

  131. ————— ——————————– —–

    Thus, absent a longer school day or a lengthier school year, the burden of this policy will be felt disproportionately by black student who from the earliest ages academically lag behind white and Asian classmates.

    The only thing is, there is no such “policy” in existence in the vast majority of US schools. It is sheer right-wing fantasy.

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    What could possibly explain these (and other) counter-productive proposals that disproportionately victimize African Americans?

    Anybody or group can come up with any sort of “proposal.” But as already shown, none of the claimed “proposals” are in any significant force or representation in American schools. Weissburd’s argument is a huge strawman.

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    Alternatively, just follow the money—these putative remedies will drive non-black teachers and administrators out of public schools leaving behind jobs for blacks. Ironically, though hardly consistent with past educational logic, education does bring economic advancement via jobs for blacks though at a cost of miseducating millions of fellow blacks.

    Another laughable strawman. Non-black teachers are not being “driven out” of public schools. White teachers are comfortably represented even in schools heavily black or minority.
    https://nces.ed.gov/programs/raceindicators/spotlight_a.asp
    And white teachers are themselves part of “white flight” that did “flee” when civil right laws finally aided blacks to break out of the ghetto prisons where they had been sandbagged by whites, and black kids finally got to attend schools with better funding and facilities, schools that their tax dollars in part paid for. There has been no “ethnic cleansing.” This is another phony strawman.

    ————— ——————————– —–
    The ethnic cleansing strategy is sustainable provided one is willing to tolerate generations of mis-educated youngsters–those who pass through a system without learning the discipline necessary to mastering traditional subjects just replace their instructors.

    Once again sheer fantasy. What is being claimed is not happening in any significant way in American public schools.

    ————— ——————————– —–

    To be blunt, given the political turmoil associated with racial integration, whites officials might tolerate these modern carve-outs just as white Southerners once tolerated sub-standard black-run schools before the Brown (1954) decision, Perhaps this growing self-imposed self-debilitating nonsense helps explain why all the extra educational spending only seems to be widening race-related wealth gaps.

    Most of the “political turmoil” associated with racial integration was caused by white people. And white southerners did not “tolerate” run down black schools. They actively PROMOTED A RUN-DOWN state of black education to increase white advantage and suppress black progress. Most of the “extra” educational spending has also benefited white people heavily as well.

    ————— ——————————– —–

    An extreme version of this economic-based argument is that undermining black education expands black welfare dependency, and this generates yet more black-dominated bureaucratic bloat. Think black-run cities that barely function yet provide handsome livelihoods for thousands.

    Black-run cities today are no worse than white run ones at the same economic level of the community. White run cities are the epitome of bloated bureaucracies, waste and political corruption. Just see the dismal record of the white Irish political machines, or corrupt white run cities like that of white mayor Frank Hague in Jersey City.

    ————— ——————————– —–

    Finally, these proposals may just reflect academic failure since quack-like nostrums would not have surfaced if blacks had successfully utilized the educational opportunities made available by the civil rights revolution.

    The “proposals” are a strawman for they are not in any significant way implemented in US public schools. What US elementary schools for esamplke teach “critical race theory” to elementary school kids?

    ————— ——————————– —–

    In a sense, the condemnation of “whiteness” by many prominent blacks is a tacit admission that being good at school is just for whites, not blacks.

    Actually no. Condemnation of “whiteness” is based on the actual historical record of white corruption, deception, greed and bogus right-wing propaganda where the education of blacks in the US is concerned.

    ————— ——————————– —–

    So, if one is unable to pass a math test, substitute a knack for regurgitating the party line on systemic racism. If students cannot heed traditional standards of classroom decorum, legally prevent principals from expelling them. Eventually the entire system of grades might be reconfigured to reflect “disadvantage” so those certified as “most disadvantaged” will receive the highest grades compared to those who are “privileged.” Better yet, abolish grades altogether to cushion self-esteem killing failure. All and all, a war on educational achievement no different than reducing black crime by eliminating law against crime.

    Still a strawman fantasy. None of this is happening in any significant way in US schools.

  132. “—- This policy of “kindness” undermined the discipline necessary for learning and certainly did not end the “schoolhouse to jailhouse” pipeline. . Disaster ensued as black students quickly learned that they were free to act out, behave violently and otherwise make schools unmanageable. “—-

    Disaster? Really? Says who? besides the usual right wing propagandists? As usual the article has little actual data to back its claims. There has been no “explosion” in black disciplinary problems.

    ============= ===============================

    “—- Fortunately, however, these mental health-related debilitations are treatable by such measures as explaining how American social policy, not personal behavior, is responsible for the students’ poverty. Lesson might include the history of how blacks were denied benefits under the GI Bill, redlining and suburbanization that would, it is assumed, lift the burden of enervating self-blame off the shoulders of these distressed youngsters. “—-

    This is another dishonest distortion. School kids have been getting a much more accurate US history in the past few decades which includes ACTUAL history, not right-wing propaganda like how happy the slaves were, or how the Civil War had nothing to do with slavery, etc. REAL history is what white right-wing propagandists want to sweep under the rug- and oh yes, it does include dismal histories of denial or hindering of GI Bill benefits, redlining, devastating “urban renewal”, vicious white violence and a host of other things. This is nothing new. School kids since the late 1970s were quite familiar with such things as Jim Crow and the KKK. It is nothing new, and the example Wesiiburd invokes does not at all claim that such history helps black mental problems. Weissburd is sorely out of touch with what is happening in schools today.

    ============= ===============================
    “—- With proper instruction poverty becomes something to be overcome by collective, not personal, struggle. To this egalitarian end, high schools must also stop tacking students into courses that don’t prepare them for college while ending remedial instruction that delays graduation. “—-

    Actually collective action is one of the key forces to overcome poverty, as conservative Thomas Sowell shows in his many writings. Jews for example had a massive collective network that boosted their economic development, such as the peddling networks that embraced and sponsored poor Jews from Europe with housing, merchandise, equipment, accounting and financial support, to simple assignment of said Jews to peddling routes as they pushed further out from the urban areas, and ports. A Jewish immigrant unable to even speak English fresh off the boat did not have to build all these things from scratch. Likewise the white Irish built or brought huge collective networks- the most significant being the Catholic Church, and the well organized, if corrupt Irish political and government machines that aided the Irish economic and social rise out of poverty. The notion that poverty is overcome by some sort of independent Horatio Alger individualism is simplistic right-wing pablum.

    ============= ===============================

    “—- Such snake oil prescriptions are hardly limited to the academy. Consider, for example, the current push in Loudon, County, Virginia, one of America’s wealthiest areas, to teach all about institutional racism along with traditional K-5 school subjects. Relying on help from the Southern Poverty Law Center, county teachers will use history and social science classes (called “teaching tolerance”) to show how slavery has been fundamental to American society (which is called “diverse democracy”). Not said too loudly, is that the entire endeavor derives from critical race theory, “—-

    More laughable claims. Actually every credible modern history book shows that slavery WAS fundamental to US society, not only in the south, but in the North as well. This is nothing new, and does not derive from “critical race theory.” Textbooks presenting an HONEST history of the US, long before any significant “critical race theory” freely admit the fact. Fast-forward to the 2010s, the 2005 book “Complicity: How the North Promoted, Prolonged, and Profited from Slavery” for example, which is sympathetic to the south on some counts, exposes the hypocrisy of the white north, which profited massively from slavery, yet so often condemned the South. Likewise Thomas Sugrue’s 2008 book- “Sweet Land of Liberty: The Forgotten Struggle For Civil Rights in The North” shows that long BEFORE Martin Luther King gained fame in the 1957 Montgomery Bus Boycott, there were bitter battles for DECADES against Jim Crow in the hypocritical north that involved boycotts, marches, political lobbying, court cases and self-defense against northern white violence.

    It is only in recent years that this struggle is receiving its due recognition and scholarship to that end is straightforward honest narrative history telling what really happened, not “critical race theory.” The charge of “critical race theory” too often is a dodge used by conservatives to dishonestly dismiss and whitewash away the actual facts.

    As for Loudon it has been the scene of several racial incidents, most often directed against black students by white ones. The Loudon program includes a few boilerplate “diversity” workshops, but the key problem is not “diversity” but the fact that Loudon also has a problem with disportionate discipline-giving white students a pass or easier treatment, than black students with the same or lesser offences. Loudon got exposed when black parents started filing complaints at higher levels. Weissburd tries to “spin” the story as one of 5-year old kids learning “critical race theory” but this is a phony distortion. Its disproportionate discipline that is at issue. And credible studies show it to be a real problem.
    https://www.pnas.org/content/116/17/8255

    ============= ===============================
    “—- Now five-year olds will learn about “social justice” and have opportunities beginning in first grade to master “activism and action civics.” Moreover, the evils of slavery will hardly be sugar coated so the children will encounter material revealing scenes of rape and pedophilia together with the currently trendy topics of substance abuse, immigration and LGBTQ issues. “—-

    All dubious. Few schools in the US are doing any of this. In fact texts are rather watered down and the most graphic details removed, and it has been so for decades. By the way school texts since the 1980s finally began being HONEST about white history, and laid out the evils of slavery, rather than the phony propaganda favored by right-wingers. But discussion of the evils of slavery are nothing “politically correct.” People who would be dismissed today as “fundamentalists” in the 1800s were among the key groups responsible for massive amounts of publicity on the very topic of slavery’s evils. They were absolutely right and their efforts were an essential part in bringing about the Abolition of the evil slavery system.

    ============= ===============================
    “—- This is in addition to classroom discussions on how ongoing injustices continue to disenfranchise and oppress today’s descendent of slaves. Predictably, many local parents are outraged by this racialization and have threatened to withdraw their children. “—-

    Actually white people have long racialized schools and school curricula- as the distortion of the United Daughters Confederacy well attest. And white people have been withdrawing their kids from public schools since the 1960s so that they would not have to share classrooms with black kids, whose parents by the way, paid some taxes for local schools (including some suburban white ones in bigger districts), parks, etc but got miserable hand-me-down junk or outright denial of service in return.

    ============= ===============================

    “—- The prelogical value of this endeavor is debatable. Will five and six-year olds accurately grasp complex terms like “racism” or “oppression”? “—-

    This charge is laughable. Says who? What schools are dragooning 5 or 6 year olds into learning “critical race theory”? The answer is that no credible public school in the US is doing so. Curricula is controlled by state governments and busy teachers trying to meet state standards have little time for such things in elementary school. Weissburd has no clue what is actually going on in schools.

    ============= ===============================

    “—- Even college students struggle with these topics and turn them into mindless slogans. More likely, given how children learn, historical narratives will be reduced to “good” and “bad” people, and make no mistake, whites will be viewed as the evildoers who unfairly oppressed people of color. Propaganda is thus inherent, all claims to the contrary aside. “—-

    Actually for decades on into the 1980s, white right-wing propagandists have distorted US history on numerous measures, led by such ideologues as the United Daughters of the Confederacy, which pressured successfully for slanted school textbook content and choices for decades. Among other things the slaves were content with their lot, and the Civil War had little to do with slavery, and other such right-wing claptrap.

    ============= ===============================

    “—- Fleeing whites means less government funding and with reduced budgets, gone will be the programs such as intensive tutoring that might help those lagging behind (wealthier whites can afford these extra’s on the private market). “—-

    Weisburd is right here, but what he says is a decades old phenomenon. “Fleeing” whites did cause less funding and reduced budgets for local schools in heavily black zones. In fact as blacks finally gained began to gain a share of political power in the late 1970s, “white flight” ensured that their areas would be shortchanged of resources, or cut out of lucrative growth in the suburbs. The City of Birmingham for example became a majority black city in 1980, but by that time whites had shifted the bulk of the resources and opportunities out of the city, from the steel industry, to the growth in white suburbs. This pattern was repeated wherever blacks finally gained majorities- from Gary to Detroit. White flight also involved massive destruction of black neighborhoods to build new highways and roads, with construction deliberately targeting black areas for devastation. The many twists and turns of highways out of Birmingham for example are not by accident, but by deliberate white design, to spare white areas, and trashing black ones. Whites also made sure to locate the most undesirable land use activity (toxic dumps, railroad yards, abandoned factories, auto junkyards etc etc) in black areas, as they cruised to their shiny new white suburbs..

    ============= ===============================

    “—- There is also an instructional downside as schools blacken—more disorder, more crime and with these changes, top teachers will go elsewhere. “—-

    Disorder and crime are not solely a product of blacks but of white greed and racism, the same racism and greed that shortchanged black schools for decades, segregated blacks into the worse poverty areas complete with lousy poverty schools, and fought against and/or diverted help from the federal government for black kids.

    ============= ===============================

    “—- Then there’s the opportunity costs of mixing woke ideology with the basics. An hour spend recounting how slaves really built America is an hour less for the three R’s unless everything is made woke—if John owned three slaves, and sold two into bondage….”“—-

    Dubious. Today’s public schools have little time to spend on “wokeness.” They are too busy trying to meet mandated state standards in math, science, reading and history. And by the way, almost every credible history shows that slavery did play a significant part in building America, north and south. That is straight fact, not “wokeness.” Indeed, people the very antithesis of “wokeness” freely acknowledged the importance of slavery to white livelihoods and profits. Who were these crazy people that would make such “politically correct” claims? These white people were called Confederates.

    • Replies: @Alden
  133. JWalters says:
    @dindunuffins

    I agree that some Afro Americans are also bigots. However, it seems to me your extreme generalizations are disconnected from reality.

  134. Weissburd says:

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    “—- Thus, absent a longer school day or a lengthier school year, the burden of this policy will be felt disproportionately by black student who from the earliest ages academically lag behind white and Asian classmates.”“—-

    The only thing is, there is no such “policy” in existence in the vast majority of US schools. It is sheer right-wing fantasy.

    ============= ===============================

    “—- What could possibly explain these (and other) counter-productive proposals that disproportionately victimize African Americans?” ——

    Anybody or group can come up with any sort of “proposal.” But as already shown, none of the claimed “proposals” are in any significant force or representation in American schools. Weissburd’s argument is a huge strawman.

    “—- Alternatively, just follow the money—these putative remedies will drive non-black teachers and administrators out of public schools leaving behind jobs for blacks. Ironically, though hardly consistent with past educational logic, education does bring economic advancement via jobs for blacks though at a cost of miseducating millions of fellow blacks. “—-

    Another laughable strawman. Non-black teachers are not being “driven out” of public schools. White teachers are comfortably represented even in schools heavily black or minority. In schools at least 89% minority for example, white teachers control approx 69% of the jobs.
    https://nces.ed.gov/programs/raceindicators/spotlight_a.asp

    And white teachers are themselves part of “white flight” that did “flee” when civil right laws finally aided blacks to break out of the ghetto prisons where they had been sandbagged by whites, and black kids finally got to attend schools with better funding and facilities, schools that their tax dollars in part paid for. There has been no “ethnic cleansing.” This is another phony strawman.

    ============= ===============================
    “—- The ethnic cleansing strategy is sustainable provided one is willing to tolerate generations of mis-educated youngsters–those who pass through a system without learning the discipline necessary to mastering traditional subjects just replace their instructors. “—-

    Once again sheer fantasy. What is being claimed is not happening in any significant way in American public schools.

    ============= ===============================

    “—- To be blunt, given the political turmoil associated with racial integration, whites officials might tolerate these modern carve-outs just as white Southerners once tolerated sub-standard black-run schools before the Brown (1954) decision, Perhaps this growing self-imposed self-debilitating nonsense helps explain why all the extra educational spending only seems to be widening race-related wealth gaps. “—-

    Most of the “political turmoil” associated with racial integration was caused by white people. And white southerners did not “tolerate” run down black schools. They actively PROMOTED A RUN-DOWN state of black education to increase white advantage and suppress black progress. Most of the “extra” educational spending has also benefited white people heavily as well.

    ============= ===============================

    “—- An extreme version of this economic-based argument is that undermining black education expands black welfare dependency, and this generates yet more black-dominated bureaucratic bloat. Think black-run cities that barely function yet provide handsome livelihoods for thousands. “—-

    Black-run cities today are no worse than white run ones at the same economic level of the community. White run cities are the epitome of bloated bureaucracies, waste and political corruption. Just see the dismal record of the white Irish political machines, or corrupt white run regimes like that of white mayor Frank Hague in Jersey City.

    ============= ===============================

    “—- Finally, these proposals may just reflect academic failure since quack-like nostrums would not have surfaced if blacks had successfully utilized the educational opportunities made available by the civil rights revolution. “—-

    The “proposals” are a strawman for they are not in any significant way implemented in US public schools. What US elementary schools for examplke teach “critical race theory” to elementary school kids?

    ============= ===============================

    “—- In a sense, the condemnation of “whiteness” by many prominent blacks is a tacit admission that being good at school is just for whites, not blacks.”“—-

    Actually no. Condemnation of “whiteness” is based on the actual historical record of white corruption, deception, greed and bogus right-wing propaganda where the education of blacks in the US is concerned.

    ============= ===============================

    “—- So, if one is unable to pass a math test, substitute a knack for regurgitating the party line on systemic racism. If students cannot heed traditional standards of classroom decorum, legally prevent principals from expelling them. Eventually the entire system of grades might be reconfigured to reflect “disadvantage” so those certified as “most disadvantaged” will receive the highest grades compared to those who are “privileged.” Better yet, abolish grades altogether to cushion self-esteem killing failure. All and all, a war on educational achievement no different than reducing black crime by eliminating law against crime. “—-

    Still a strawman fantasy. None of this is happening in any significant way in US schools.

  135. @Patriot

    We will never find a solution to the racial divide in America, because we refuse to recognize the inherent pathology that afflicts the majority black culture. Name one majority black population with black leadership anywhere in the world, whether on the continent of Africa, the Caribbean islands, or the black-controlled urban centers of America, that is not backward, violent, impoverished and pervasively corrupt. How can we find a solution when we can’t define the problem?

    • Agree: Joseph Doaks, mark green
  136. @Enrique Cardova

    By now your wrote more words than the author of the paper being discussed. Let’s assume for the sake of the argument that everything you wrote is true. What’s your alternative explanation for the facts on the ground? Let’s select only very few:

    1. Blacks, who constitute only 13% of the US population, kill 97% of black homicide victims and >80% of white homicide victims.

    2. The result of perfectly fair auditions in classical music orchestras (the orchestra hears the music, but does not see who is playing) is that ridiculously few blacks are among the musicians.

    3. The fraction of blacks in academic science is minuscule, despite widespread practice of admitting under-qualified black applicants into colleges and graduate programs. I am not even talking about scientific achievements of blacks, which are even lower than their fraction in research workforce.

    I am sure many would like to hear your theories. So, please oblige.

    • Replies: @Enrique Cardova
  137. @mocissepvis

    … it might be wise for white America to consider a one-time reparations payment of some uniform and fixed amount to each African American – on the condition that acceptance of said payment represents an acknowledgment that no further claims of any kind may ever again be made against the U.S. taxpayer.

    Do you really think most recipients will accept the limitation? Making claims against the U.S. taxpayer is what they live for.

  138. @AnonFromTN

    OK. and when I am done, I hope you can oblige by answering my own set of questions.

    ——————————————
    You say:
    1. Blacks, who constitute only 13% of the US population, kill 97% of black homicide victims and >80% of white homicide victims.

    First your stats are incorrect. Blacks do not kill 80% of all white homicide victims. Whites kill other whites over 80% of the time but were only killed by blacks approx 14% of the time. Whites killed blacks at a lesser rate- about 8%.
    Second, sure, Black crime violence is high in certain areas, among certain age groups, but this is nothing new for whites as well, and nothing new for immigrants to urban areas in US history. White America has had some very violent regions and times, much worse than today’s black urban areas. Parts of the Old West for example show this. High murder areas included the usual suspects such as Dodge City Kansas (165 per 100,000) but also places like white San Fran and several other California jurisdictions also posted high rates. Even allegedly milder white Oregon posted a rate around 30 per 100,000. (Randolph Roth- Homicide Rates in the American West) Using modern FBI formulas, white Los Angeles County in the 19th century ran up a body count of about 414 homicides per 100,000. (McKanna 2002. Race and Homicide in 19th Century California). Nor is the West unique. Studies show the heavily white Scotch-Irish Kentucky-Tennessee borderlands posting a rate of 24 per 100,000 starting in the 1850s.

    According to the FBI SHR data, in 2011 there were 6,309 black homicide victims in the United States. The homicide rate among black victims in the United States was 17.51 per 100,000. This is relatively high but often surpassed by whites. The supposedly more self-restrained Dutch of Amsterdam posted a whopping 47 per 100,000 in the 16th century, higher than any rate ever recorded for New York City, Irish and all. In Maryland the rate at which unrelated European adults killed was 29 per 100,000 adults per year in earlier times. In white Virginia it was 37 per 100,000. (Epstein and Gang 2010. Migration and Culture, Vol 8)

    Urban areas. At various times and places the white violence rate was well ahead of the blacks. The white Irish for example posted arrest rates well above their population representation- 50% in some years of NYC compared to an Irish population of about 24% of the city. If the comparison is to the Irish as a proportion of the total population the disparity is even more shocking. More than 5 times as many Irish were convicted in court than among the native population. Back then the “law and order” problem, was essentially a white Irish problem. In Philadelphia in the 1860s and thru the mid 1870s the indictment rate for crimes for the white Irish was almost twice that of other groups. The murder rate among the white Irish exceeded that of blacks. In 1860 in Boston the white Irish accounted for 75% of arrestees and police detainees, though only making up about 40% of the population. Again if the comparison is to the Irish as a percentage of the national population the disparity looms wider. This pattern was all over where the Irish settled: from New York, to Philly, to Boston, to Chicago.

    If violent white Irish group behavior is added on top of the above the picture is even grimmer. Leaving aside from the worse Irish riots in US history- the Draft Riots- Irish gangs actually grew in size and ferocity afterwards. Groups like the Dead Rabbits or the Bowery Boys fought for days, deploying thousands, and requiring the National Guard or the militia to suppress them. White Irish mayhem deployed thuggish violence and intimidation on a mass scale- with street riots, stabbings and shootings as squads of drunken Irishmen packing clubs, knives gun and razors went from precinct to precinct assaulting the opposition. As conservative historian Michael Barone notes:

    ———————— “The problem of law and order, as seen by local authorities in many northeastern cities, was specifically an Irish problem throughout these decades, with the newcomers earning a reputation for hard-drinking, aggressive, riotous behavior wherever they settled.”.. it is plain that crime rates among Irish-Americans were well above the national average.. the rate of indictment for murder in Philadelphia from 1860 to 1873 was 4.7 per 100,000 for those with Irish Catholic names, compared to the citywide average of 2.9, and that murder rates among Irish in the mid nineteenth century were higher than among blacks. More than half of all arrests in New York in 1859 were of Irish—double their proportion of the population—and more than five times as many Irish immigrants as native-born Americans were convicted in court.92 By 1860 the Irish accounted for three-quarters of Boston’s arrestees and police detainees.98 The Chicago Tribune in 1898 asserted that there were twice as many Irish lawbreakers as from “almost any other inhabitable land on earth.” Irish violence also manifested itself in urban riots.”
    –Michael Barone 2001. The New Americans, pg 44

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    In addition to northern Europeans like the Irish, white “role models” from southern Europe produced higher murder rates that blacks. Italian Americans entering the urban scene in some years murdered at almost twice the rate of blacks. Per one detailed scholarly study:

    ———— “And in Philadelphia, their [the blacks] rate of indictment for murder, in the antebellum years only moderately higher and lower than the Irish, rose raggedly just as the Irish sank, and it had reached 11.4 per 100,000 by the 1890s.
    By that time however, those rates were exceeded by those of a third group, those born in Italy, whose story further underlines the point. Philadelphia’s “murder rates” for the early twentieth which for technical reasons measured not by indictments, up above and in Chapter 4, but by the comparatively lower rate of actual convictions, sentences to death or the penitentiary. Between 1901 and l907, this rate among non-Italian whites was just 1.3 per 100,000 annually, and among blacks 12.9. But the Italians.. killed each other and occasional bystanders often enough to reach the truly astonishing homicide conviction rate of 26.3 per 100,000.”
    –Roger Lane. 1997. Murder in America- A History, p 188

    Even when climbing, the black rate in multiple decades was still below that of Italians.

    “Among Italian immigrants and their descendants, as they were slowly absorbed into the urban revolution, the rate of imprisonment for murder and manslaughter (eliminating auto and other accidental homicides) fell by close to a factor of two and a half between 1901 and 1926, from about 17 to 7. Among excluded [from the urban economy’s revolution] African Americans, the same rate, starting at lower than the Italian at 10 climbed by more than a factor of one and a half to 16..”
    –Roger Lane. 1997. Murder in America- A History, p. 242

    ——————————————
    You say:
    2. The result of perfectly fair auditions in classical music orchestras (the orchestra hears the music, but does not see who is playing) is that ridiculously few blacks are among the musicians.

    Why is this a mystery? Few blacks have had the money or opportunity to get training in classical music compared to whites, so of course whites would predominate. But it should also be noted that Black classical musicians and performers have often faced discrimination from whites that held them back. Classic singer Marion Anderson for example, one of the greatest American contraltos of all time, was often denied opportunity to sing in the better, more prestigious venues that would have advanced her career, and on top of that was often denied service in hotels, restaurants etc. due to her race.
    https://www.encyclopedia.com/people/literature-and-arts/music-history-composers-and-performers-biographies/marian-anderson

    ————————————–

    You ask:
    3. The fraction of blacks in academic science is minuscule, despite widespread practice of admitting under-qualified black applicants into colleges and graduate programs. I am not even talking about scientific achievements of blacks, which are even lower than their fraction in research workforce.

    This is no mystery at all, and who says there is a “widespread practice” of admitting “under-qualified” black applicants into colleges and graduate programs of science? First define “under-qualified.” Usually in a higher end undergrad or graduate program, which is where most of the AA action is, you have to meet a minimum cutoff standard. Most blacks under AA do meet the minimum cutoff, and are thus qualified. In the well-known Fischer case for example, the white student Fisher did NOT meet the minimum cutoff standards, and her “race card” lawsuit alleging that blacks cost her a slot was clearly untrue. Her own defence team made no argument that she was displaced by a black student. White student Fischer was clearly unqualified, and there were actually several black students that posed better stats than her who did not receive admission either. As one study notes:

    ———————————————————————————
    “Except there’s a problem. The claim that race cost Fisher her spot at the University of Texas isn’t really true. In the hundreds of pages of legal filings, Fisher’s lawyers spend almost no time arguing that Fisher would have gotten into the university but for her race. Race probably had nothing to do with the University of Texas’s decision to deny admission to Abigail Fisher… Fisher did not particularly stand out. Court records show her grade point average (3.59) and SAT scores (1180 out of 1600) were good but not great for the highly selective flagship university. The school’s rejection rate that year for the remaining 841 openings was higher than the turn-down rate for students trying to get into Harvard. As a result, university officials claim in court filings that even if Fisher received points for her race and every other personal achievement factor, the letter she received in the mail still would have said no.

    It’s true that the university, for whatever reason, offered provisional admission to some students with lower test scores and grades than Fisher. Five of those students were black or Latino. Forty-two were white. Neither Fisher nor Blum mentioned those 42 applicants in interviews. Nor did they acknowledge the 168 black and Latino students with grades as good as or better than Fisher’s who were also denied entry into the university that year.

    –What Abigail Fisher’s Affirmative Action Case Was Really About
    https://www.propublica.org/article/a-colorblind-constitution-what-abigail-fishers-affirmative-action-case-is-r
    ———————————————————————————

    ^^Note- white fem Fisher was nothing special, did not meet the minimum standards for admission, and actually was an equal or lesser performer than 168 Blacks and Hispanics with grades equal to or better than the white fem who also were denied slots. Also note than of the 47 students who benefitted from admissions formula such as socio-economic status, community service etc, 42 or 89% were white, and only 11% Black or Hispanic- far below their percent representation in the population (almost 30% these days).. In short, the “quota” program massively benefited whites more than Blacks or Hispanics. This is not surprising. Whites are the main beneficiaries of quotas, and such quotas serve nicely in holding down Asian numbers. Ron Unz himself has posted excellent data on this.

    ====================================

    OK so please oblige me by in turn answering the following questions. I am sure many would love to hear your theories, and please provide credible supporting references, from credible sources. To wit:

    1) How is it that white “role models” are so violent? So violence-prone that their crime stats have often been worse than blacks historically?

    2) How is it that white “role models” are so violent that they would slaughter some six million Jews and almost double that number of Poles, Russian POWS, Slavs, gypsies etc in cold blood during the 20th century?

    3) How is it that white people for most of US history, until relatively recently, locked out black classical performers from performing in better venues, or receiving adequate training? And how is it that black classical musicians are so often discouraged by whites from training and accessing opportunities?
    https://www.wbur.org/cognoscenti/2020/07/22/classical-music-racism-linda-katherine-cutting

    4) How is it that white people, particularly white fems, are the biggest beneficiaries of Affirm Action?
    5) How is it that white students, as demonstrated in the Fisher case, benefited MORE from preferential admission formulas than the blacks?

    6) How is it that white fems like Fisher were not able to meet minimum standards yet MORE qualified blacks and hispanics who did meet the standards were denied?

    7) How is it that Asians are not getting their fair share of high end university admission slots when they are more qualified than white students, with white students benefiting from preferential admission formulas to the disadvantage of Asians?

  139. Alden says:
    @AceDeuce

    You are so right. I became a probation officer in 1968. 10 percent black county, 95 percent black criminals.

    The criminals ranged from about 20 to 50, mostly men . Means they were born between 1918 and 1948. All from criminal fathers and grandfathers with long felony records. Mostly bastards. Many raised in foster homes and homes for abandoned and abused children. Their products of their promiscuous sex lives in foster homes Totally dysfunctional families. Somewhat bad nature, disastrous nurture.

    Conservatives are assholes bad as black loving liberals. Detroit was ruined by the respectable White bourgeois catholic school life long married auto union workers , not black criminals, a black civil service, and black elected officials according to conservatives

    • Agree: AceDeuce
  140. Alden says:
    @Enrique Cardova

    It’s 2020 in America, not 1620. Your Irish arrestee statistics are proof that immigrants who ever they are are more criminal than natives. Those San Francisco crime rates referred to a time when virtually every resident of San Francisco was an immigrant. Some say that virtually every American, Mexican and Latin American man who arrived in N California in Gold Rush days had an outstanding warrant back home

    There was a poem

    What did you do in the east
    Did you kill your wife you beast
    Did you use a gun or knife
    Who else did you kill in the east you beast

    By citing the Irish and Gold Rush San Francisco you are just proving the White Nationalist point that many immigrants are criminals which is a major reason why they left home.

    Is your post your thesis for your BS degree in Hate Whitey Studies? I bet a White remedial tutor re write it for you in the remedial English composition class you took at age 25 for your BS degree.

    • Replies: @Enrique Cardova
  141. @Ann T. Zemitik

    “No amount of shekels are gonna change that.”

    True that is, and little short of 50-100,000 more years of evolution, if that, seem likely to do the trick.

    And it’s more than just ‘the mental’ aspect:

    “Morality and Abstract Thinking”
    https://www.amren.com/ar/pdfs/2009/200902ar.pdf

  142. Alden says:
    @Enrique Cardova

    Oh God, another PiledHigher&Deeper Hate Whitey thesis being tried out in a pro White site.

    • Agree: FLgeezer
  143. Truth says:
    @Just another serf

    Your post was,an obsesession over negros.

  144. @Enrique Cardova

    You say:
    Blacks, who constitute only 13% of the US population, kill 97% of black homicide victims and >80% of white homicide victims.

    First your stats are incorrect. Blacks do not kill 80% of all white homicide victims. Whites kill other whites over 80% of the time but were only killed by blacks approx 14% of the time. Whites killed blacks at a lesser rate- about 8%.

    OK, so I took the time to check out your data source, and I think I can say, without denying your figures, that it’s a little more complicated than that. First, when you add up the perpetrator totals, you see that there are as many Blacks who kill as Whites who kill, despite there being nearly eight times as many Whites in the population. Then if you look at your source, Table 3, you see that Blacks actually make up 38% of all homicide offenders, while Whites make up but 31%. As well there is a confusing discrepancy in the homicide totals: in one table the total murders plus non-negligent manslaughters is given as 13483 (not 5352 as in yours). Quite possibility it derives from the inclusion of manslaughter, in which case one would have to ask whether there is a differential tendency to downgrade the charges or go easy on some offenders. Some might argue that it is more difficult to convict in inter-racial killings.

    My more serious complaint is that you have emphasized the difference in percentages when comparing Whites killed by Blacks(14%) as opposed to Blacks killed by Whites (8%). I suggest the ratio of these figures would be the better comparison. An even more significant difficulty is that the race of the offender is unknown to the FBI in a full 29% of the cases. That makes for a huge uncertainty in this ratio, as provided by the FBI stats. I could even imagine that the figures you question may just have found more definitive stats.

    Stats are never easy.

    • Replies: @Enrique Cardova
  145. @Enrique Cardova

    Many of your questions are already answered by Alden and Peripatetic Itch, so I will focus on the ones they did not.

    I would like to reiterate Alden’s statement that today is 2020, so your figures from ancient past (including 1620) are pure misdirection. Every debater knows that when the person has no valid arguments, s/he tries to misdirect.

    Peripatetic Itch answered your stats question, detecting misdirection, as well.

    Conflating American whites of 2020 with German Nazis of 1933-45 is another case of misdirection, betraying the same lack of valid arguments.

    As to college admissions, this site has extensively published on it (e.g., see https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-racial-discrimination-at-harvard/), and the stats directly contradict your assertions.

    So, I will address the question of graduate admissions, as I know it very well, having served on out grad school admissions committee for many years, as well as an associate DGS and DGS of our grad program. We systematically interviewed “under-represented minority” applicants with qualifications that would never grant anyone else even serious consideration, let alone an interview. By anyone else I mean not only whites, this includes Asians (NE and Indian), as well as non-US blacks. The latter demonstrates blatant hypocrisy. My best tech ever was a black girl from Cameroon. She worked for me for 1.5 years and earned authorship on three papers from the lab. When I recommended her for our grad school, it was explained to me that she is “diverse”, but not a “minority”. So, apparently Cameroonians are the majority in this country, same as Chinese, Indians, Russians, Koreans, Vietnamese, etc. Before GRE scores were banished by quota warriors, when you submitted a training grant to NIH, you used to give average GREs of your grad students. GREs of “minority” students were so appallingly low, that savvy grant writers submitted two numbers, GREs of normal students (which were high), and GREs of “minority” students, so that the latter did not drag down the average to unacceptably low levels. These are just a few vignettes demonstrating systemic racism: pro-“minority” systemic racism, that is.

  146. @Alden

    Alden said:
    —-You are so right. I became a probation officer in 1968. 10 percent black county, 95 percent black criminals.”—–

    Your claim here seems dubious. What exactly was this county -in what state and what credible documentation backs your claim? You probably won’t say of course because it is doubtful if the situation existed as you claim. If not, what county and state?

    ———————————————————-
    ———- “Conservatives are assholes bad as black loving liberals. Detroit was ruined by the respectable White bourgeois catholic school life long married auto union workers , not black criminals, a black civil service, and black elected officials according to conservatives “——-

    How can you say this and be serious? You have no grounds for this statement. How can you blame good Catholic people and strong union people for this state of affairs? Give some specific examples.

    ———————————————————-
    —— “It’s 2020 in America, not 1620. Your Irish arrestee statistics are proof that immigrants who ever they are are more criminal than natives. Those San Francisco crime rates referred to a time when virtually every resident of San Francisco was an immigrant. Some say that virtually every American, Mexican and Latin American man who arrived in N California in Gold Rush days had an outstanding warrant back home”———

    But the points made extend not only across the years but down to the present era, such as in the corrupt white Irish regime of Frank Hague of Jersey City (1947), to the corrupt white regime of white “Bull” Connor of Birmingham (1960s) on into the 2000s with white Guv Blagovich of Illinois, to everything in between. The record shows that white immigrant groups in various years posted even WORSE crime, pathology and violence than blacks.

    And as far as corruption and decay, the Hague regime exceeded anything done by black urban bosses. Not for nothing was he called the “Hitler of the Hudson” and his massive tax increases on white citizens threatened to bankrupt good white urban jurisdictions. At one time, white Jersey City was the highest-taxed American municipality and had the biggest bonded debt of any large city in the United States. During the corrupt white Hague regime it was 95.5% white. https://www.encyclopedia.com/people/history/us-history-biographies/frank-hague
    And the San Fran stats mentioned were for WHITES in San Fran not a multi-culti mix of migrants.

    ———————————————————-
    —– “By citing the Irish and Gold Rush San Francisco you are just proving the White Nationalist point that many immigrants are criminals which is a major reason why they left home.” ————–

    OK, I agree with the white nationalists, but only in part. I reject the claim that ALL white migrants are/were criminal. SOME, not all white immigrants left their homelands due to their criminality and violence. But the white nationalists have, too often in the historical record, condemned and been viciously opposed to white migrants from places like Italy (ah those dusky Mediterraneans), Poland, Jews and gasp even the violent white Irish. Many of these folk were Catholic, like my many friends, and assorted opposers seem to have compounded religious prejudice on top of ethnic bias. These are the same people (or descendants) hysterically screaming about “domination of popery” because a guy like Kennedy got elected.

  147. AnonfromTN says:

    My figures from the past are not “misdirection” as you claim. They have a direct bearing on the question and show that in various times and places in the record, whites posted crime and violence stats even worse than blacks. Looking at the historical record by the way, is a procedure endorsed by top conservatives like Dr. Thomas Sowell, whose data does also show high levels of white Irish criminality and pathology. Comparison of ethnic groups is actually helpful to conservatives in debunking liberal nostrums for supposedly “unique” problems. Migrants from impoverished rural peasant background to urban areas for example, have often shown similar patterns of rising pathology, crime, violence etc., regardless of race. This data of course debunks assorted right-wing claims as well. Misdirection? Hell no- ON TARGET!

    And they are not from the ancient past. White criminality is still disproportionate, on some counts, having shifted from the more open to the less open crimes – and that violent criminality, in murdering millions of Jews as recently as 1945 is very much a recent thing with repercussions down to today. Right-wingers of course who love to project European whites as such superior creatures of virtue and goodness compared to those evil violent “minorities”, try to avoid the actual historical record like the plague on these counts.

    .
    You say:
    ——– “As to college admissions, this site has extensively published on it (e.g., see https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-racial-discrimination-at-harvard/), and the stats directly contradict your assertions.” —

    Actually they do no such thing and the fact that you can’t cite a single example speaks volumes as to the emptiness of your claim. When I say for example that Asians are being discriminated against, Ron Unz actually agrees, and in fact I have used the very same data from Unz elsewhere.

    .
    You also say that the black Cameroonian girl was your best tech, but was denied a slot for being a “non minority.” OK but who then took her slot? Somebody white? You don’t say, but you help my argument anyhow. In the case I cited, the white applicant was out-performed by several Blacks and Hispanics but these minorities too were ALSO denied slots. Your example actually confirms what I illustrate- that blacks do not automatically benefit from preferential policies, and contradicts your claim of systematic pro-minority racism.

    This tracks too with Unz’s data which shows better performing Asians being denied slots in favor of whites, who can use the elements of preferential treatment such as extra points for “community service” or legacy/alumni preferences to sneak ahead of higher performing Asians. Unz has a much better claim actually for the “systematic” nature of ANTI-ASIAN policies, in favor of whites.

    .
    You also say that GRE scores have been eliminated in some places. Sure, but GRE scores have been rightly questioned as to their relevance in some academic programs. In some they can give clues as to a candidate’s future performance, in others they are weak. In fact, credible scholarly studies of GRE scores find that they are unimpressive as predictors of STEM PhD degree completion.
    Citation: Petersen et al. Multi-institutional study of GRE scores as predictors of STEM PhD degree completion: GRE gets a low mark. PLoS One. 2018;13(10)
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6205626/

    So much for the “holy grail” of the GRE. But in any event, the abolition of GRE scores primarily benefits whites, namely white women. Programs that abolish GRE scores typically cite not only minorities but WOMEN as well, and a majority of females going to university, or in STEM programs, are white women who outpace blacks of either gender. Abolition thus helps whites much more than blacks. In like manner, the writing portion of the SAT was added some years ago, as a way to boost the scores of college-bound women, who again, are primarily white. On all counts, whites are the main beneficiaries of such preferential measures.
    http://www.nytimes.com/1996/10/02/us/college-board-revises-test-to-improve-chances-for-girls.html?pagewanted=print&src=pm

  148. @Enrique Cardova

    As I said a few times in other threads, nobody is as blind as someone who refuses to see. Case closed.

  149. @Enrique Cardova

    Enrique, old boy … do you understand the meaning of “comment”? It doesn’t mean, “an essay longer than the Nile that would take an hour to read, if anyone actually read it.”

  150. @Patriot

    “We cannot exist together.”

    I agree, and would much rather see them all deported to Liberia. I only suggest North American ‘Dindustans” because of the practicality factor. The logistics of deporting 43,000,000 recalcitrant blacks back to Africa is, I believe, beyond the ability of our collapsing institutions to pull off. Establishing and populating domestic Dindustans won’t be any easy feat either (nor will sealing them off from civilized humanity), but will still be more attainable than shipping 13 percent of the nation’s current population to the other side of the globe.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  151. anarchyst says:
    @mocissepvis

    Funny you mention Liberia. In the 19th century when slaves were “freed”, many of them repatriated themselves to Liberia. Although equipped with a government based on the united States Constitution (which lapsed into irrelevance), the “slave trade” magically resurrected itself.
    In fact, Cinque, the leader of the Amistad slave revolt, once gaining his freedom turned out to be one of the most prolific slave traders of the day.
    You can take the Negro out of the jungle but you cannot that the jungle out of the Negro.

  152. Anonymous[401] • Disclaimer says:
    @Loup-Bouc

    LOUP-BOUC: “Not EVERY Nazi was bad. I mean, there WAS that hombre Schindler…”

    You seem to suffer from Blackthink: an aversion to reason, logic, facts, and “maph.” Percentages and probabilities matter, mein dude.

    Given your blindness to patterns, I question your ability to diagnose diseases. Hell, I suspect you think the very idea of disease is a toxic, white, male construct.

    FACT: Just 1.5% of the USA (criminal black males aged 14-34) commit 54% of all violent crimes. Yet you would have sane citizens react to a group of approaching niggerword yoots as if they were a claque of gentle Amish gents.

    FFS: Who cares if “not all” blacks are violent, enstupidated apes? Enough ARE!

    WHITE AIRLINES: 10,000 planes, 50 crashes
    BLACK AIRLINES: 100 planes, 50 crashes
    DR LOOPY-BOUC: “You be raysiss if youse tink dey no equalably safe.”

    More importantly: whom do you think will fix “the problem”?

    How often should looted stores reopen in looting hoods filled with looters?

    How many more centuries before blacks attain 1960s equality with whites?

    Is there no limit to your racial blindness, masochism, arrogance? How much would you pay blacks in prison to roger your fundament nightly to atone for slavery?

    >”I — a very “White,” highly educated and notably successful law professor and physician”

    Humblebraggart! Are your degrees from Whatsamatta U?

    >”I knew many hard-working responsible Black individuals”

    How “many” let their hoods/race decay/chimpout?

    > “I have encountered quite enough despicable Whites and decent Blacks.”

    How many of the former demand/get reparations for historic wrongs endured?

    How many of the latter cut their own ice, act civilly, and foreswear all gibs?

    > “I can avoid Black ‘culture’ and live in my world of logic, law, medicine, fine literature, Johann Sebastian Bach, and European art films”

    Why would you want/need to…all cultures being “equal”?

    >”I will not defile my self-respect by prejudging anyone”

    Great! Now walk alone on a hot summer night in Southside Chicago. Get back to us about how that goes.

    Physician, stop being a heel thyself!

    • Thanks: mark green
  153. Anonymous[401] • Disclaimer says:
    @mocissepvis

    >”As a condition of 1 and 2 above, require blacks to move to a geographic location that consists of one or more U.S. states, or portions of existing states, that have been set aside specifically for them.”

    No.

    (1) Return ALL reparations-recipients to Africa.

    (2) Negate US citizenship for same.

    • Replies: @Truth
  154. Truth says:
    @Anonymous

    There has,to be ONE Clint Eastwood type knocking on doors rousting Knee-grows out of there beds on Compton, Brooklyn and Baltimore and forcing them into the ocean liner with the very large, high- caliber weapon of his choice…

    Are YOU that man?

  155. throtler says:
    @anarchyst

    Emmet Till’s father was executed for rapes and murders of Italian women.

  156. @Enrique Cardova

    I like historical references because group attitudes do sometimes change and it’s good to be reminded. Nevertheless, when you refer to White wars and genocide, you should compare that to Black wars and genocide. White conquests should be compared to Black conquests and White Empires with Black Empires. White slave owners should be compared with Black slave owners. Having a long history of losing nearly every war doesn’t prove moral superiority.

    If you are referring to the discrimination against Asians by the Ivy League, you definitely have support from Ron Unz. You should also refer to his clear statement that the Ivy League is run by Jewish Whites and their discrimination against non-Jewish Whites is extreme. He provided insufficient detail for me to be able to compare that with Jewish bigotry against Asian Americans.

    By his own figures, that Jewish discrimination now against non-Jewish Whites is vastly stronger than WASP discrimination against Jews in the 1950s. He stated that Jews used to be admitted at a 15% rate when they were entitled to a 25% rate. Now, he estimates that non-Jewish Whites are entitled to admission at 10 times the Jewish rate. The Jewish admission rate at Harvard he estimated at 25% and, I believe, the non-Jewish White rate is 15%. A little arithmetic calculates Jewish bigotry today at 10 times that of the 1950s WASPS: (250/15) x (15/25). I concede that the figures are fuzzy particularly my recollection of non-Jewish Whites admitted (if it’s 250% of the total. there’d be no discrimination).

    I have no difficulty in accepting that the most racist people in the USA today are Jews and traditional US Blacks. Sometimes, the obvious explanation is the best.

    In traditional US Blacks, it would be silly to include black southern Indian or African professionals who have the intelligence to work the US racist discrimination system for themselves and their children. I certainly wouldn’t include Obama who has the good sense to keep well away from the worst of them. Neither would I include the black US programmer or psychologist I’ve known. In even the worst groups, most people are ok.

    I like Tamils but I don’t believe them when they say they’re Hindus. They obviously worship education. If a Tamil or any other Indian claims to identify as a traditional US Black, I don’t believe them either. I might accept that if I start wondering whether traditional US Blacks worship education. [email protected]

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