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“And as the flames climbed high into the night
To light the sacrificial rite
I saw Satan laughing with delight
The day the music died”

– Don McLean, “American Pie”

The Nazis had a name for their propaganda and mind-control operations: weltanschauungskrieg – “world view warfare.” As good students, they had learned many tricks of the trade from their American teachers, including Sigmund Freud’s nephew, Edward Bernays, who had honed his propagandistic skills for the United States during World War I and had subsequently started the public relations industry in New York City, an industry whose raison d’etre from the start was to serve the interests of the elites in manipulating the public mind.

In 1941, U.S. Intelligence translated weltanschauungskrieg as “psychological warfare,” a phrase that fails to grasp the full dimensions of the growing power and penetration of U.S. propaganda, then and now. Of course, the American propaganda apparatus was just then getting started on an enterprise that has become the epitome of successful world view warfare programs, a colossal beast whose tentacles have spread to every corner of the globe and whose fabrications have nestled deep within the psyches of many hundreds of millions of Americans and people around the world. And true to form in this circle game of friends helping friends, this propaganda program was ably assisted after WW II by all the Nazis secreted into the U.S. (“Operation Paperclip”) by Allen Dulles and his henchmen in the OSS and then the CIA to make sure the U.S. had operatives to carry on the Nazi legacy (see David Talbot’s The Devil’s Chessboard: Allen Dulles, The CIA, and The Rise of America’s Secret Government, an extraordinary book that will make your skin crawl with disgust).

This went along quite smoothly until some people started to question the Warren Commission’s JFK assassination story. The CIA then went on the offensive in 1967 and put out the word to all its people in the agency and throughout the media and academia to use the phrase “conspiracy theory” to ridicule these skeptics, which they have done up until the present day. This secret document – CIA Dispatch 1035-960 – was a propaganda success for many decades, marginalizing those researchers and writers who were uncovering the truth about not just President Kennedy’s murder by the national security state, but those of Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, and Robert Kennedy. Today, the tide is turning on this score, as recently more and more Americans are fed up with the lies and are demanding that the truth be told. Even the Washington Post is noting this, and it is a wave of opposition that will only grow.

The CIA Exposed – Partially

But back in the mid-1960s to the mid-1970s, some covert propaganda programs run by the CIA were “exposed.” First, the Agency’s sponsorship of the Congress of Cultural Freedom, through which it used magazines, prominent writers, academics, et al. to spread propaganda during the Cold War, was uncovered. This was an era when Americans read serious literary books, writers and intellectuals had a certain cachet, and popular culture had not yet stupefied Americans. The CIA therefore secretly worked to influence American and world opinion through the literary and intellectual elites. Frances Stonor Saunders comprehensively covers this in her 1999 book, The Cultural Cold War: The CIA And The World Of Arts And Letters, and Joel Whitney followed this up in 2016 with Finks: How the CIA Tricked the World’s Best Writers, with particular emphasis on the complicity of the CIA and the famous literary journal The Paris Review.

Then in 1975 the Church Committee hearings resulted in the exposure of abuses by the CIA, NSA, FBI, etc. In 1977 Carl Bernstein wrote a long piece for Esquire – “The CIA and the Media” – naming names of journalists and publications (The New York Times, CBS, etc.) that worked with and for the CIA in propagandizing the American people and the rest of the world. (Conveniently, this article can be read on the CIA’s website since presumably the agency has come clean, or, if you are the suspicious type, or maybe a conspiracy theorist, it is covering its deeper tracks with a “limited hangout,” defined by former CIA agent Victor Marchetti, who went rogue, as “spy jargon for a favorite and frequently used gimmick of the clandestine professionals. When their veil of secrecy is shredded and they can no longer rely on a phony cover story to misinform the public, they resort to admitting—sometimes even volunteering—some of the truth while still managing to withhold the key and damaging facts in the case. The public, however, is usually so intrigued by the new information that it never thinks to pursue the matter further.”)

Confess and Move On

By the late 1970s, it seemed as if the CIA had been caught in flagrante delicto and disgraced, had confessed its sins, done penance, and resolved to go and sin no more. Seeming, however, is the nature of the CIA’s game. Organized criminals learn to adapt to the changing times, and that is exactly what the intelligence operatives did. Since the major revelations of the late sixties and seventies – MKUltra, engineered coups all around the world, assassinations of foreign leaders, spying on Americans, etc. – no major program of propaganda has been exposed in the mainstream media. Revealing books about certain CIA programs have been written – e.g. Douglas Valentine’s important The Phoenix Program being one – and dissenting writers, journalists, researchers, and whistleblowers (Robert Parry, Gary Webb, Julian Assange, James W. Douglass, David Ray Griffin, Edward Snowden, et al.) have connected the U.S. intelligence services to dirty deeds and specific actions, such as the American engineered coup d’état in Ukraine in 2013-14, electronic spying, and the attacks of September 11, 2001. But the propaganda has for the most part continued unabated at a powerful and esoteric cultural level, while illegal and criminal actions are carried out throughout the world in the most blatant manner imaginable, as if to say fuck you openly while insidiously infecting the general population through the mass electronic screen culture that has relegated intellectual and literary culture to a tiny minority.

Planning Ahead

Let me explain what I think has been happening.

Organizations like the CIA are obviously fallible and have made many mistakes and failed to anticipate world events. But they are also very powerful, having great financial backing, and do the bidding of their masters in banking, Wall St., finance, etc. They are the action arm of these financial elites, and are, as Douglass Valentine has written, organized criminals. They have their own military, are joined to all the armed forces, and are deeply involved in the drug trade. They control the politicians. They operate their own propaganda network in conjunction with the private mercenaries they hire for their operations. The corporate mass media take their orders, orders that need not be direct, but sometimes are, because these media are structured to do the bidding of the same elites that formed the CIA and own the media. And while their ostensible raison d’ȇtre is to provide intelligence to the nation’s civilian leaders, this is essentially a cover story for their real work that is propaganda, killing, and conducting coups d’états at home and abroad.

Because they have deep pockets, they can afford to buy all sorts of people, people who pimp for the elites. Some of these people do work that is usually done by honest academics and independent intellectuals, a dying breed, once called free-floating intellectuals. These pimps analyze political, economic, technological, and cultural trends. They come from different fields: history, anthropology, psychology, sociology, political science, cultural studies, linguistics, etc. They populate the think tanks and universities. They are often intelligent but live in bad faith, knowing they are working for those who are doing the devil’s work. But they collect their pay and go their way straight to the bank, the devil’s bank. They often belong to the Council of Foreign Relations or the Heritage Foundation. They are esteemed and esteem themselves. But they are pimps.

El Diablo

Ah, the devil! He’s their man. A man of many names, but always an impostor. These pimps know his story and how he works his magic, and this is what their paymasters want from them: ways to use the old bastard’s bag of tricks to conjure confusion, and sow fear and paranoia. And to do this slow and easy in ways no one will recognize until it is too late.

For like culture, propaganda relies on myths, symbols, and stories. Some prefer to say narratives. But nothing is more powerful. Controlling the stories is the key to powerful propaganda. The pimps can spin many a tale.

Tell people endless tales of the good guys and the bad, of how the bad are out to get you and the good to save you. Think of the use of symbols in the telling of these stories. They are crucial. The word symbol comes from a Greek word to throw together. Symbols that represent the in-group or the “good guys” are used to create social solidarity within the in-group. Stories are told to accompany the symbols; stories, narratives, or myths tell of how the good guys are fighting to hold the group together and the bad guys are trying to rip the community apart. The symbolic and its opposite – the diabolic (to throw apart) – the angels against the devils – el diablo. Very simple, very old. The aliens are out to get us. And el diablo is always the ultimate other, the man in red, the reds, the commies, the Russians, the others, immigrants, the blacks who want to move next door, Muslims, gays – take your pick. Satanic rituals. Black magic. Witchcraft.

Methods of Propaganda

Infecting minds with such symbols and stories must be done directly and indirectly, as well as short-term and long-term. Long term propaganda is like a slowly leaking water pipe that you are vaguely aware of but that rots the metal from within until the pipe can no longer resist the pressure. Drip drop, drip drop, drip drop – and the inattentive recipients of the propaganda gradually lose their mettle to resist and don’t know it, and then when an event bursts into the news – e.g. the attacks of September 11, 2001 or Russia-gate – they have been so softened that their assent is automatically given. They know without hesitation who the devil is and that he must be fought.

The purpose of the long-term propaganda is to create certain predispositions and weaknesses that can be exploited when needed. Certain events can be the triggers to induce the victims to react to suggestions. When the time is ripe, all that is needed is a slight suggestion, like a touch on the shoulder, and the hypnotized one acts in a trance. The gun goes off, and the entranced one can’t remember why (see: Sirhan Sirhan). This is the goal of mass hypnotization through long-term propaganda: confusion, memory loss, and automatic reaction to suggestion.

Intelligence Pimps and Liquid Screen Culture

When the CIA’s dirty tricks were made public in the 1970s, it is not hard to imagine that the intellectual pimps who do their long-range thinking were asked to go back to the drawing board and paint a picture of the coming decades and how business as usual could be conducted without further embarrassment. By that time it had become clear that intellectual or high culture was being swallowed by mass culture and the future belonged to electronic screen culture and images, not words. What has come to be called “postmodernity” ensued, or what the sociologist Zygmunt Bauman calls “liquid modernity” and Guy Debord “the society of the spectacle.” Such developments, rooted in what Frederic Jameson has termed “the cultural logic of late capitalism,” have resulted in the fragmentation of social and personal life into pointillistic moving pictures whose dots form incoherent images that sow mass confusion and do not cohere. From the mid-1970s until today, this generalized disorientation with its flowing and eternal present of appearing and dissolving images has resulted in what is surely a transformed world, and with it, transformed worldviews. The foundations have collapsed. Meaning and coherence have become difficult to discern. Stable personality has been disassociated, memory downloaded, attention lost, the psyche materialized, sexual identity confused, the electronic mind-body interface established, and the electronic and pharmaceutical drugging of the population accomplished. Really? Yes.

Did not the intelligence agencies foresee all this? Did not they see it and plan accordingly? Did they not notice that about the time their old dirty deeds were being exposed, a movie burst onto the screen that introduced a theme familiar to them and their Nazi friends? I mean the 1973 hit, The Exorcist, wherein Satan struts his stuff, four years after Mick Jagger strut his across the stage at Altamont, singing “Sympathy for the Devil,” while shortly after a killing took place down in front of him and the 1960s were laid to rest. But during the 1970s The Exorcist and its theme of the devil’s hold on people came to life and was taken up with a religious fervor by the entertainment industry and promoted by Oprah Winfrey, Geraldo Rivera, and other media luminaries, who went about promoting el diablo’s hold on so many helpless victims. Occult, magic, and satanic themes became pop staples and would remain so up until the present day. I would suggest that readers put aside their reservations at what may seem sensational and watch this video. Then ask yourself: what is going on here?

The CIA as Prophetic

But maybe a better question than did the CIA foresee these developments, would be to ask if it has been involved in the occult and satanic world itself, before and after the social developments of “liquid modernity.” The answer is yes. Indeed, all the characteristics of the social and cultural developments I mentioned previously in reference to postmodernity have been a major part of its work before this new world emerged: “the disassociation of stable personalities, memory erasure and the implanting of false memories, materializing the psyche, confusing sexual identity, establishing the electronic mind-body interface, and electronic, hallucinogenic (the CIA introduced and spread LSD in the 1960s), and pharmaceutical drugging,” to name but a few. In anticipating these developments the CIA was at the very least predictive. Disinformation, acts of terrorism, coup d’états, assassinations flow out of a marriage to the Nazis made in hell – Talbot’s “devil’s chessboard” – but they are linked to much more. Peter Levenda, in Sinister Forces: A Grimoire of American Political Witchcraft, a trilogy on sinister forces in American history, puts it this way:

The CIA, satanic cults, and UFOs, the mythology of the late twentieth century is surprisingly coherent even though the masks change from case to case, from victim to alleged victim. The CIA, of course, does exist; their mind control programs from BLUEBIRD to ARTICHOKE to MK-ULTRA are a matter of public record. Their history of political assassinations and the overthrow of various foreign governments is also a matter of record. Satanic cults – or perhaps we should qualify that and say ‘occult secret societies’ – also exist and are a matter of public record; their attempts to contact alien forces by means of ceremonial magic and arcane ritual (including the use of some of the same drugs and other techniques as the CIA used in its mind control programs) are also well-known and documented. Some of these practitioners were – and are – well-known men and women who have not denied their involvement (such as rocket scientist Jack Parsons in the 1950s and Army Colonel and intelligence officer Michael Aquino in the 1990s). The CIA also aggressively researched American cults and secret societies in an effort to discover the source of paranormal abilities and ancient mind control mechanisms. And while the jury is still out on the question of UFOs, there is no doubt that government agencies have attempted to track, to analyze them, and to explain them away. Again this is a matter of public record, including FBI and CIA documents in addition to military records.

Skeptical readers may find this strange to consider. That would be a mistake. The web of connections is there for anyone who cares to look. For more than fifty years occult themes and rituals have been part of world view warfare. Drugs, shamanism, black magic, and the occult – staples of the CIA then and now. It is well known that Hollywood, television, and the media in general have been working closely with the intelligence agencies for a long time. Especially since 2001, films and television programs have glorified the CIA, our “good” spies, and the military. The mystification of reality has found its best friend in the electronic and internet revolution as strange and “subversive” beliefs are dangled like candy for little children. Good and evil move through the public consciousness like passing sun and shadows. Weird conspiracy theories “pop up” to titillate and obsess, and to drive out the serious findings of dedicated and disciplined writers and researchers who have discovered the truth about real government conspiracies. Sowing confusion is the name of this deadly game, and if you find yourself confused, you are in good company.

But many are catching on and realizing that what seems strange but innocent is part of a much larger effort to hypnotize the public to agree to their own destruction through the ingestion of what can only be called black magic.

The eloquent writer and brave American, Jim Garrison, the former District Attorney of New Orleans and the only person to bring a trial in the assassination of President Kennedy, put it this way in On The Trail of The Assassins, the story of his quest to solve the murder of JFK.

I knew by now that when a group of individuals gravitated toward one another for no apparent reason, or a group of individuals inexplicitly headed in the same directions as if drawn by a magnetic field, or coincidence piled upon coincidence too many times, as often as not the shadowy outlines of a covert intelligence operation were somehow becoming visible.

Rub Lucifer, the Prince of Darkness, the right way and the CIA emerges into the light. You can see its shadowy outline with your eyes wide shut. As it says on CIA headquarters: “You shall know the Truth, and the Truth will set you free.”

Edward Curtin is a writer whose work has appeared widely. He teaches sociology at Massachusetts College of Liberal Arts. His website is

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  1. Sean says:

    What cabal at the CIA might have the authority to order the assassination of a sitting President?People at the bottom who were going to actually execute such an order know that this order actually came from the top of the chain of command of the CIA, or person who told them no matter how highly placed, was not a KGB double agent (even directors of the CIA have been suspected by colleagues of being Soviet agents or someone working for some clique, or out of their own unfathomable motive, or madness. If a subordinate obeyed such an order they would know too much to be left alive, as secret agents would instantly realise. They would certainly want assurances of being protected for ever after, but how could they believe them?

    How could a conspiracy inside the CIA trying to feel out potential allies could establish its bona fides as authentic CIA and not a KGB operation to assassinate the President of the United States of America by using the country’s own agencies. JJ Angleton was far from the only one in the CIA who thought that there were Soviet agents at the highest levels.

    The CIA are not ten feet tall you know. While he was CIA Director, John Deutch was caught going to pornographic web sites by Pentagon investigators and publicly humiliated. The government does not take orders from the CIA or the FBI. The President controls both. And if necessary he can call out the Army against either or both of them. Roger Stone author of The Man Who Killed Kennedy: The Case Against LBJ has been arrested. But on the other hand thinking the CIA is out to get them is extremely common among mentally unbalanced folk. In fact I have read that many schizophrenics seem completely normal until you mention the CIA.

    Mark Lane told Jimmy Jones that the CIA were out to get him. Believing nonsense can never be done with impunity by anyone. Jones believed it, whether Lane did I could not possibly say. Many of those who lose the place over the CIA are harmless, some go postal like Jimmy Jones, and some become victims of conmen or worse

    Of course some people have had concrete reasons for thinking (whoever misguidedly) the CIA or US President is deserving of death for their foreign policy. Those people oft times act, talk is cheap.

    1948 the British left the Jews took over. Father was fired from his job no pension. The farm the mother owned was confiscated by the Jews. Tenants evicted from the farm as well. Jews took it over. One day when the youngest boy was 4 a platoon of well armed Jewish thugs arrived and gave the family one hour to leave with just the possessions they could carry by hand. The house, furniture everything was confiscated and there was no legal recourse as the Jews ran the country. The youngest boy was 4 years old. He was of course frightened and traumatized by armed thugs menacing his family. The family sought refuge in the pilgrims hostel of a monastery. One large room with 7 kids mostly boys from a nice 10 room home. How’d you like that? The Greek church brought them to America, the California town of Pasadena. They bought a house and settled down. Parents eventually divorced. husband went back to Palestine. Children grew up and assimilated. Youngest boy greatly resented the confiscation and dispossession. The family surname is Sirhan. The youngest son’s first name is Sirhan.

    “Weird conspiracy theories “pop up” to titillate and obsess, and to drive out the serious findings.. Sowing confusion is the name of this deadly game, and if you find yourself confused, you are in good company… through the ingestion of what can only be called black magic.” While certain types of mind seem predisposed to believe in the supernatural, paranormal and thought control, it seems to me that the most common conspiracy theory in books TV and Hollywood concerns the CIA, and not as the good guys! But the people who join the CIA are by and large patriotic and well meaning Americans.

    In October, 2016, one of Skinner’s closest friends in the C.I.A. was killed by isis forces in Afghanistan. Skinner was despondent. A few months later, he left the Soufan Group and joined his local police force, taking a pay cut of more than a hundred thousand dollars a year. … after Skinner completed his training, he was startled to find that many interactions he had with older black men began with them reflexively putting up their hands.[ect ect]
    Soviet Use of Assassination and Kidnapping

    Despite that view of the Soviet Union, the CIA cooperated in the Warren Comission’s effort to hide any and all evidence that could lead opinion in the US to blame Cuba or Russia. Some of that evidence from the CIA Mexico station concerning Oswald’s conversations with Cuban officials was only released last year, some of it remains secret. As reasons for conspiracies go, preventing WW3 is quite benevolent.

    “Rub Lucifer, the Prince of Darkness, the right way and the CIA emerges into the light” A lot of recent research on schizophrenia and other things suggests it relates to immune activation in the brain . The journalist who wrote the book Brain On Fire said when she watched TV, she believed that people were talking about her on the news.

    In his The Inflamed Mind, Dr Bullmore postulates antisocial behavior by unwell people is isolating a source of infection from others for the good of the group. However, it strikes me that someone fighting an infection may be better withdrawing into a paranoid fantasy world until they get better, rather than engaging in real competition when they are below par. It is pretty well established that schizophrenia spectrum types have chronic immune system activation so their delusions about the CIA may just be a side effect. The other side effect is uncontrolled rumination safe in an unventilated room.

  2. Thank you for taking the time to write that sane response. That stuff happens in books but is hard to find on the internet.

  3. This is a valuable, truth-oriented contribution, all in all. Nonetheless:

    and had subsequently started the public relations industry in New York City, an industry whose raison d’etre from the start was to serve the interests of the elites in manipulating the public mind.


    This is the untruth that all meaning to perform as saviours of the good, white-minded and white-hearted masses need to hold on to.

    The public relations industry serves the interests of both the tiny niche of the elite, and the grand number of the masses.
    Elites are subconsciously hired by the masses, to satisfy their repressed wants, foremost among them that to be properly deceived.
    Otherwise, it takes one or two huge Cartesian ghosts in the machine to explain how everything runs.

    No reading of society, its culture, and politics passes the consistency test without this decoding key.

    Bernays ended his most known writing by stating in a nearly overt manner that advertising was and had to be deceptive and simple-mind-targeting, but it would later change these features of its if people’s wants changed.
    Bernays seems to receive a good deal of the cultural hostility he does receive due to racial, rather than cultural, reasons.

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  4. Hello?

    This article was on the sidebar for a short span, and then disappeared from there, never to appear as one of the two columns of the day.
    The 3 comment count is a result of this.

    I am posting this in case that’s been an oversight.

  5. renfro says:

    But they are also very powerful, having great financial backing, and do the bidding of their masters in banking, Wall St., finance, etc. They are the action arm of these financial elites, and are, as Douglass Valentine has written, organized criminals. They have their own military, are joined to all the armed forces, and are deeply involved in the drug trade. They control the politicians. They operate their own propaganda network in conjunction with the private mercenaries they hire for their operations. The corporate mass media take their orders, orders that need not be direct, but sometimes are, because these media are structured to do the bidding of the same elites that formed the CIA and own the media. And while their ostensible raison d’ȇtre is to provide intelligence to the nation’s civilian leaders, this is essentially a cover story for their real work that is propaganda, killing, and conducting coups d’états at home and abroad.

    Very entertaining.
    Now tell us how all this works.
    And what the CIA gets out of it. I mean they surely don’t do it for nothing do they?
    Does the CIA Director get rich for working for ‘masters in banking, Wall St., finance, etc’?
    Or is everyone under a giant Satanic Cult in the sky and the CIA is their headquarters on earth?

    How do we know you aren’t ‘one of them’, messing with our minds in order to make legit conspiracy theorist look nuts by spreading a conspiracy theory about the CIA and Satan?
    How do we know that you arent a ‘Weird conspiracy theories “pop up” to titillate and obsess, and to drive out the serious findings”….maybe you are a Satanist out to destroy certain US agencies so we will believe your conspiracies instead of theirs?

    I think I have to laugh this off unless you can prove to us the biggie….that Israel also works for the CIA, who works for the bankers and the Satan Cult in order to suck the blood out of the US to coup and kill us off for the CIA.

  6. Priss Factor [AKA "Asagirian"] says:

    the American engineered coup d’état in Ukraine in 2013-14

    The Shylock Doctrine

  7. Anon[424] • Disclaimer says:

    Timothy 3:1-5
    But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people.

    • Replies: @Wade
  8. HiHo says:

    Talk about brainwashed…

    Did not the intelligence agencies foresee all this? Did not they see it and plan accordingly? Did they not notice that about the time their old dirty deeds were being exposed, a movie burst onto the screen that introduced a theme familiar to them and their Nazi friends? I mean the 1973 hit, The Exorcist…

    ‘Nazi friends’! Nazi is a Yiddish word meaning ‘half person’! The Jews use it about those pretend Jews they call the Ashkenazi…half Jews to be correct.

    There is an assumption here that German National Socialists (refered to by Jews as ‘Nazis’) were all evil per se. It shows the writer has zero knowledge of Germany, or the National Socialists from 1919 when the Dulles brothers and Col House imposed draconian conditions on a defeated Germany, and the ensuing turmoil.

    Most National Socialists were ordinary good people seeking freedom from the exploitation, divisive policies and unrealistic war debt (fines to be correct), that had made life impossible for them.

    The true Nazis in all this were the Jews and their money loving friends in the US and elsewhere. It is money and the love of money that is the problem, not some fairy tale people you call Nazis.

    I’d say everything is going just fine today. We choose to live this life to understand choices. The choice is to choose Spirituality or Evil. If you like money and crave it you have chosen Evil. If you have chosen the narrow straight path of Spiritualty leading to union with what I call the ancient souls of the intelligent ether, that you probably call God, then the world has fulfilled its function.

    Please note that ‘religion’ has nothing to do with Spirituality. Where did Jesus tell you to kill? He didn’t! So if the are a Christian you are no better than Moslems or Jews who both live by profit from the suffering of others.

    Where did Jesus tell you to make others suffer? This is why the murderous Jews and Moslems so hate Jesus. And this is why Christianity is so fraudulent.

    • Replies: @Sowhat
    , @Wally
  9. Anon[424] • Disclaimer says:

    Freud and his nephew Edwards Bernays , the fathers of modern propaganda

  10. Is the author saying anything other than the CIA operates like all other intelligence agencies? Does he really think his readers don’t know that?

  11. Under “The CIA Exposed” could have mentioned Philip Agee’s “Inside the Company” as he was the Edward Snowden of his day. Interestingly, CIA agent Miles Copeland, Jr., the father of the drummer of the British band “The Police”, said the book was “as complete an account of spy work as is likely to be published anywhere” and that it is “an authentic account of how an ordinary American or British ‘case officer’ operates … All of it … is presented with deadly accuracy.” (ref.

  12. The CIA is under Zionist control and since the Zionists control the U.S. government the CIA acts as an arm of the Zionist destruction of America via the wars and terrorism that the CIA is involved in at the behest of their Zionist overlords.

    The CIA works hand in hand with another Zionist group the MOSSAD and also with MI6 and this unholy trinity has given the world AL CIADA aka ISIS and all off shoots of the same and all are under Zionist control and all the mideast wars are their creation.

    The CIA is a destroyer of nations for the zionists and was in with the MOSSAD in the destruction of the WTC and other crimes which are covered up by the zionist controlled U.S. government, when every thinking America knows that Israel and the zionist controlled deep state did 911.The CIA operates openly in the U.S. inviolation of U.S. laws and the same goes for the MOSSAD and MI6, see these books by Colonel L. Fletcher Prouty, The Secret Team and Clinton , Bush and the CIA by Terry Reed and the Politics of Heroin in Southeast Asia by Prof. Alfred McCoy , all can be had on or just read the customers comments .

    The CIA is a zionist creation that is going to destroy America.

    • Replies: @Jake
  13. Amon says:

    The f*** did I just read?

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  14. Jake says:

    “…Sigmund Freud’s nephew, Edward Bernays, who had honed his propagandistic skills for the United States during World War I and had subsequently started the public relations industry in New York City, an industry whose raison d’etre from the start was to serve the interests of the elites in manipulating the public mind.

    In 1941, U.S. Intelligence translated weltanschauungskrieg as “psychological warfare,” a phrase that fails to grasp the full dimensions of the growing power and penetration of U.S. propaganda, then and now.”

    The Yank propaganda machine always was an alliance between WASP Elites and Jews. Always. The Yank WASPs knew that Brit and British Commonwealth WASPs had done the same thing: make alliance to rule the world, which featured – not a bug but a feature – new ways to use psy ops to pervert the vast majority of white Christians they ruled.

    Until that is understood, which means accepting that WASP culture itself is a problem as big as Jews and Jewish culture, all that is done in opposition to all that is horrendously wrong today is wasted time and energy.

    • Replies: @Desert Fox
  15. Jake says:
    @Desert Fox

    The CIA is a British creation, just like Israel’s Mossad and Saudi Arabia’s General Intelligence Presidency.

    The CIA is a pure WASP Elite creation. It always has served the interests of the WASP Elite, in the UK and the rest of the Anglosphere as well the US. And the CIA always has served the interests of Jews and Israel, because that makes perfect sense for WASP culture, which was formed fully, completed, by the Judaizing heresy Anglo-Saxon Puritanism.

    Judaizing heresy guarantees pro-Jewish politics and culture.

    • Replies: @Alden
  16. anonomy says:

    “Tell people endless tales of the good guys and the bad, of how the bad are out to get you and the good to save you. Think of the use of symbols in the telling of these stories. They are crucial.”

    What story and symbol should I make up in my own mind since you can’t seem to specify any?

    “the diabolic (to throw apart) – the angels against the devils – el diablo. Very simple, very old. The aliens are out to get us. And el diablo is always the ultimate other, the man in red, the reds, the commies, the Russians, the others, immigrants, the blacks who want to move next door, Muslims, gays – take your pick. Satanic rituals. Black magic. Witchcraft.”

    Nazi’s and White Supremacists? Anti-Social Mormons? Amish? White racists? Holocaust deniers?

    Let’s face it, the devil, commies, and others are real. They are not imaginary figments of last nights soup. They really do try to influence us and our children. Homosexuals do try to influence your children, with cool parties and special attention when they come out of the closet. they are applauded. When they take hormones and have surgery done and silicone injected, they’re held up on pedestals with esteem. How about Harvey Milk day? Muslims also influence with the help of the CIA. People like Giraldi who often writes here in favor of the Muslim Palestinian people whose land is thousands of miles away yet they flop here complaining about Israel and Israel flops here complaining about the world. No it’s all real and they do are moving in next door endlessly and when someone opens their mouth about it they are labled with a never ending sentence of white supremacist racist. To kill one is perfectly fine just look at Ruby Ridge or Waco. All they had to say was they were white supremacist or white separatist, anti government, Christian fundamentalist and the whole country goes “oh racists” and calls it all a day.

    The real propaganda is the propaganda that puts us all together and steals our home right from under us. The real propaganda is the stories of how we all belong together acting doing and living the same way because that’s what makes us diverse.

  17. AWM says:

    James Jesus Angleton
    This guy had it figured out.

  18. @Jake

    I am aware of that, see the book The Committee of 300 by ex MI6 officer Dr. John Coleman and see his videos on youtube, the Zionist control MI6 and the CIA , and the Zionists control Britain just as they control the U.S..

    Nathan Rothschild infamously said, I care not what puppet is placed upon the throne of England for the man that controls the money supply controls the British Empire and I am that man!

    It is the same here in America and the zionists control of the money supply is their privately owned FED!

  19. RodW says:

    This is real fruitcake stuff. That video linked in the middle is total paranoid Christian drivel, looking for signs everywhere. You could just as easily make a similar video about almost any period in recorded history showing evidence of a conspiracy to ‘initiate’ the public into Satanism. You’d have a harder time linking it to the CIA, but it would surely be fun trying.

  20. Priss Factor [AKA "Asagirian"] says:


  21. Anonymous [AKA "Insert Fake Iriish Name here"] says:

    Sean, Who else, is here first with the CIA line, “CIA works for the president!” CIA shoehorned that into the Pike Committee report right after Don Gregg visited the committees and gave them an ultimatum: back off or it’s martial law. Then Sean mouths a bit of bureaucratic bafflegab about feasibility. The feasibility of CIA crime is a product of CIA impunity. So next Sean feeds you more CIA boilerplate by trying to pathologize anyone who’s aware of CIA impunity through formal legal pretexts in municipal law. John Bolton, Trump’s CIA ventriloquist, had one prime directive as unauthorized UN ambassador: remove any reference to impunity from the Summit Outcome Document. To that end he submitted 600+ NeoSoviet amendments to paralyze the drafting process.

    That’s how touchy CIA is about its impunity. CIA is the state, with illegal absolute sovereignty because they can kill you or torture you and get away with it. If you’re John Kennedy, if you’re Robert Kennedy, if you’re Dag Hammarskjöld, if you’re Judge Robert Vance. No matter who you are.

    • Replies: @Sean
  22. Agent76 says:

    March 19, 2017 The CIA’s 60-Year History of Fake News How the Deep State Corrupted Many American Writers

    Whitney’s new book, “Finks: How the C.I.A. Tricked the World’s Best Writers,” explores how the CIA influenced acclaimed writers and publications during the Cold War to produce subtly anti-communist material. During the interview, Scheer and Whitney discuss these manipulations and how the CIA controlled major news agencies and respected literary publications (such as the Paris Review).

    JANUARY 18, 2017 CIA Publishes About 13 Million Pages of Declassified Files Online

    The US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) published nearly 13 million pages of declassified files on its official website for the first time in its history. The declassified files were previously publicly available only at the National Archives in Maryland.

  23. We mustn’t get wrapped around the axle with the satanist business. That’s nonessential, sizzle for the steak. It helps CIA deride their denouncers as nuts. It’s best to stick to a functional point of view: what does ritual ‘satanic’ abuse do for CIA?

    Pedophile child trafficking is a CIA profit center that helps top up its unappropriated slush fund for clandestine crime. (Recall that FBI turbocharged Playpen, increasing its turnover and inventory by orders of magnitude. If you think that stuff sits on the shelf unused, well then I am a Nigerian Prince, please help me get my millions from the bank.) Child trafficking also serves three organizational functions. First, it provides reliably adverse compromising information to securely control CIA assets. Second, it initiates nomenklatura with grandiose feelings of power and freedom. (Recall Craig Spence worked hand-in-glove with Don Gregg, Ray Kline, DeGenova, Toensing, all the CIA big shots.) Third, pedophile abuse maintains a pool of persons with severe dissociative disorders who can be induced to commit, or just take the fall for, CIA crimes.

    When interdiction of child sexual abuse escaped FBI control and passed to a world-standard organization, unprecedented loads of shit hit the fan. It was great.

    “The Committee… is concerned that the State party is one of theworld’s largest producers, distributors and consumers of child pornography… The Committee is concerned at the information that the State party remains among the main source countries for child sex tourism… The Committee is concerned at the information that prostitution of children is a widespread and increasing phenomenon in the State party.”

    The Committee breaks down how the CIA regime keeps the traffic going with organizational deficiencies and feckless law enforcement busywork.

    CIA pedophile trafficking constantly morphs: The Boy’s Town/Franklin Scandal, The Dutroux Organization in Belgium, PIE/care homes in Britain, The Presidio, The McMaster School, The Finders, Craig Spence, the Digital Entertainment Network, Penn State/Fifth mile, the Congressional pedophile page ring of Foley/Hastert, the John of God child-livestock biz, and the continual dull roar of child migrant trafficking in California, Arizona, Florida, Texas, and Washington State.

    Shitloads of links on request, but this is all open-source.

    • Agree: Sowhat
    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  24. @Sean

    According to this comment, “The government does not take orders from the CIA or the FBI. The President controls both.” Well, only if the President is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and a Rockefeller’s puppet. For a well-documented, quite different analysis of the Kennedy assassination see “Partners in Crime: The Rockefeller, CFR, CIA and Castro Connection to the Kennedy Assassination.”

  25. The largest lottery jackpot won by someone in South Carolina hasn’t been claimed so far with only a couple more months left to claim it… I guess the Wall Street crowd got to the poor ticket holder and the winning ticket using their domestic muscle, the CIA. Let that be the reminder to anyone doubting the existence of the el diablo!

  26. Sowhat says:

    You are confusing true , practicing Christians with “like-warm wanna bees”. It’s okay for you to make this mistake. Until you have “taste and see”, sadly you are disqualified to make that accusation. I’ll extend the invitation. Just read the Book of St. JOHN. After a few chapters, you’ll have questions that you’ll want to ask yourself. I realize that this was all manifested only two thousand years ago and those that lived in previous times will be “judged according to their works.” That’s not our concern. If you read it (John), you’ll face eternally profound questions. The obsession follows. Taste and see. The LORD is good and His judgements are righteous, all together.

    • Replies: @Amon
  27. Sowhat says:

    The C.I.A. IS all about Regime Change. I am not convinced that they are all bad…just a clique within. They are inexplicably connected with that government behind the Government. They are not connected with the office of the Executive but follow the orders of a few that have no regard for The People, constitutionally. If they were, drugs would have been squashed, decades ago. They work for a different Cabal and, as Trump has stated, are naive and ineffective, according to their intended purpose, this from someone who is either mad or someone who has stated that his intent is to return the government to The People, per The Constitution. We’ll see where all of this takes us as a Nation. Popcorn-in-hand.

    • Agree: Agent76
  28. wagelaborer says: • Website

    If Mr. Curtin reads the comments, please know that actual rational human beings, with a good grasp of history and class relations, also read your article and appreciate it. Most of us won’t comment, but I felt a need to, since the comments seem particularly negative.
    It must be disheartening to write a sound and well-referenced article and then have a bunch of doofuses comment, either that they can’t believe that their heroes would do such things, or that they are all controlled by da joos.

    • Agree: SunBakedSuburb
    • Replies: @Alden
  29. Anon[227] • Disclaimer says:

    Carter and Bush Sr. both done in by Israel Lobby?

  30. Edward Curtain writes for the CIA about the CIA. Amazing that a bunch of academics would “criticize” the CIA and leave out all the real facts about the CIA. ISIS, Al Qaeda, Pornhub, Facebook, Google – or whatever the CIA calls themselves and their weapons isn’t in the business of informing you about anything at all. Read 1984, it will explain it to you, another psychological warfare treatise written by a Government agent.

  31. Agent76 says:

    Documentary: On Company Business [1980] FULL [Remaster]

    Rare award winning CIA documentary, On Company Business painfully restored from VHS.

  32. Wade says:

    Best post on this article so far! Thanks.

  33. It’s only evil Satanic magick till you see how they did the trick. Take Satanic ritual child abuse. To see how the US tries to put loopholes in its international legal commitments, you have to look at the reservations.

    Here’s a reservation the US entered to CRC/C/OPSC, Protocol Article 4(1):

    “To the extent that the domestic law of the United States does not provide for jurisdiction over an offense described in Article 3 (1) of the Protocol if the offense is committed on board a ship or aircraft registered in the United States, the obligation with respect to jurisdiction over that offense shall not apply to the United States until such time as the United States may notify the Secretary-General of the United Nations that United States domestic law is in full conformity with the requirements of Article 4 (1) of the Protocol.”

    A handy loophole. Say there’s something fishy going on with Epstein’s Lolita Express plane. Or on David Geffen’s BF boat, the Rising Sun, or his Gulfstream G650. The US government is just gonna give you a big shrug and go, Whelp! This dodge typically uses Mossad cutouts, and this is how CIA keeps them out of trouble.

    Or look at this loophole you could fly a Gulfstream G650 through.

    “NO OBLIGATION TO TAKE CERTAIN ACTION.-The United States is not a party to The Hague Convention, but expects to become a party. Accordingly, until such time as the United States becomes a party to The Hague Convention, it understands that it is not obligated to criminalize conduct proscribed by Article 3(1)(a)(ii) of the Protocol or to take all appropriate legal and administrative measures required by Article 3(5) of the Protocol.”

    That would be: “(ii) Improperly inducing consent, as an intermediary, for the adoption of a child in violation of applicable international legal instruments on adoption;”

    Remember Laura Silsby? Remember John of God?

    For CIA it’s all about the cherries. Keep those cherries comin’.

  34. Amon says:

    The f*** did I just watch.

    Occult global conspiracy, mind control to accept Satan worship, demon summoning by Elon Musk and silicon valley, CIA running a global porn industry and its all the fault of Necromancers & the Illuminati.

    Let me guess, D&D and Rock Music is also part of the conspiracy to overthrow US Christianity, the same perverted and corrupted Church of Christ which has made the worship of Jews and sub servitude to them the pinnacle of moral righteousness to the point that US citizens don’t complain when Jews confine their daughters to the position of whores to be raped by immigrants while their sons are sent to be slaughtered by Muslims by the hundreds for the goal of creating Greater Israel?

    My respect for UNZ just took a massive nosedive.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  35. Amon says:

    A shame the Christian church in the US has been perverted into a cult of Jew worship and sub servitude.

    Those 50 million sheeps calling themselves Christians cheerfully sends their sons to die for the glory of the Jewish homeland with no care while the lying Jews make whores of their daughters for profits.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  36. onebornfree says: • Website

    “…and are, as Douglass Valentine has written, organized criminals.”

    In other words, they are essentially no different from any other part of the government- end of story:

    This just in:

    “Because they are all ultimately funded via both direct and indirect theft [taxes], and counterfeiting [central bank monopolies], all governments are essentially, at their very cores, 100% corrupt criminal scams which cannot be “reformed”,”improved”, nor “limited” in scope, simply because of their innate criminal nature.” onebornfree

    Or, we can all continue to fantasize that the CIA is somehow different, merely a criminal group within a larger and otherwise benign, organization.

    And so it goes….

    Regards, oneornfree

  37. Graukopf says:

    Rub any evil thing, find a jew. When someone endeavors to speak on these subject but fails to mention the most
    obvious entity controlling our media, our money, and our government, I call bs

  38. Druid says:

    Are you kidding? Where did you get that moslems hate jesus. Have you read the quran. Jews hate jesus but moslems revere him as a prophet. And read the chapter on Mary in the koran.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  39. Alden says:

    Sociology teacher at some obscure 5th rate Mass college. 99.999% chance he’s another anti White racist liberal. When college teachers are interviewed they must promise to teach anti White racism and must show great enthusiasm for preaching anti White racism to the students at obscure 5th rate colleges.

    If the applicant doesn’t show sufficient hatred of Whites he she doesn’t get the job. That’s what the interview is all about, to select the applicant who hates Whites the most.

  40. anonomy says:

    Well I have a feeling Mary thinks her child is the Son of God, not a prophet. I can just imagine why the Muslims would want Mary to betray her son and Christians by going to them. Christians follow Jesus, not the Muslim prophet. How low and disgusting can some people get, they do nothing in the name of Jesus.. Doesn’t their prophet have a mother?

  41. RJJCDA says:

    Go to a large library and cross-reference James Jesus Angleton, Kim Philby, Miles Copeland and Nicholas Elliott in the “spy” books. Soon you will begin to see that MI6 was there at the OSS and later CIA inceptions. At the hidden deep levels, both these agencies serve the GLOBALIST’ enterprise, and have since the start.

    Then you will understand Steele and the “five eyes” involvement in the Russia hoax.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  42. @atlantis_dweller

    Bernays led millions to their deaths.

    • Replies: @Sean
  43. But many are catching on and realizing that what seems strange but innocent is part of a much larger effort to hypnotize the public to agree to their own destruction through the ingestion of what can only be called black magic.

    The biggest myth they made the public believe was that capitalism was the best and only way. Sadly, many still believe it. Not surprising as many right wingers still peddle the “red scare” that was created by the CIA’s founders a century ago. No different than the “Russia gate” scare of today. Theres always a Russian, commie or socialist hiding, waiting to get you! Pay no attention to the capitalists raping and plundering your country right in front of you.

    The fact that the illegitimate Trump regime is still going after Assange and Snowden tell you all you need to know about him.

    Theres no separating the CIA from the capitalist system, investment banks, wars, and imperialism. The New World Order. Same deal even before the CIA’s creation. Study The United Fruit Company and their dealings for a good lesson in how it all works. Smedley Butler wrote of this in “War is a Racket”. John Pilgers films are also good.

    John Pilger The War On Democracy

    Rockefeller-owned United Fruit Company, which was a gigantic economic influence in Guatemala. Secretary of State John Foster Dulles was at the helm during the overthrow. His brother Allen was CIA director at the same time. At one point Allen Dulles had been president of United Fruit Company while his brother served as corporate counsel for the large corporation.

    Who became president of the United Fruit Company after the coup had been achieved and Jacobo Arbenz had been removed? It was none other than Walter Bedell Smith, who had formerly been CIA Director.

    The Dulles brothers jockeyed between “government service” and “private sector activity” with the highly connected, governmentally active Washington firm of Sullivan and Cromwell, attentively pursuing the interests of valued corporate clients whether there or in government.

    President Eisenhower conceded he felt exasperation and frustration in dealing with controversial Secretary of State Dulles, who bore the nickname of “John Foster Brinkmanship” based on his “brink of war” global geopolitical strategy.

    Rise of the National Security State The CIA’s links to Wall Street

    The CIA: 70 Years of Organized Crime

    Regime Change and Capitalism

    -Excerpt from a speech delivered in 1933, by Major General Smedley Butler, USMC

    I spent thirty- three years and four months in active military service as a member of this country’s most agile military force, the Marine Corps. I served in all commissioned ranks from Second Lieutenant to Major-General. And during that period, I spent most of my time being a high class muscle- man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism.

    War is just a racket. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of people. Only a small inside group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses.

    I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested. During those years, I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a swell racket. Looking back on it, I feel that I could have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.

    • Agree: Desert Fox, AWM, Agent76
  44. Alden says:

    Why would anyone bother reading a superficial clip and paste job by a sociology teacher? Sociology teachers are one and all anti White racists speeing the latest anti White liberal propaganda.

    If a sociology teacher told me the time, I’d check my watch.

    • Replies: @atlantis_dweller
  45. Sean says:

    CIA is the state, with illegal absolute sovereignty because they can kill you or torture you and get away with it.

    The state can draft you into the army and send you off to die, so it can do anything it wants with sovereign immunity, yes. But you don’t need that impunity to act in accordance with your own lights. You can do absolutely anything you want, if you are prepared to accept what happens afterward. Oswald

    Oswald’s trip to the Cuban Consulate in Mexico was but a fortnight before a US backed coup in South Vietnam and the assassination of the Diem brothers, which was only about a week before JFK went to Dallas. Oswald was primed to go and apparent evidence of a ruthless US assassinating a foreign leader like Diem made it look like Castro (Oswald’s idol) was marked for death by Kennedy, that probably made Oswald determined to carry out his project of killing Kennedy and moving to Cuba in the unlikely event of him getting away.

    Kennedy was a Cold War warrior who became pres by accusing Eisenhower of allowing the USSR to steal a march on the US in technology (Spunik, Yuri Gagarin) and countries like Cuba and Vietnam. He manufactured a Missile Gap</a< with he help of Albert Wohlstetter who accused the CIA of underestimating Soviet strength, (he was also a defender of Israel, and the idea that Kennedy, who provoked the USSR to the brink of WW3 by trying to give Germany nuclear weapons, was worried about Israel having nukes won’t fly. In fact Kennedy was beloved of by Jews.

    The earliest and most influential JFK conspiritorialists were 100% Jewish. Authors Léo Sauvage, Mark Lane (who told Jimmy Jones that the CIA was out to get him, then fled as the massacre started), and Richard Popkin who were a French journalist, a lawyer and a distinguished philosophy professor respectively. Also David Lifton, Norman Mailer, Harold Weisberg, Sylvia Meagher (subject indexed the Warren Commission report), Mae Brussell and lesser known ones like Jones Harris, and even latecomers like James H. Fetzer. All of them Jewish people.

    The Warren Commission report was a cover up by the US state intended to stop the American people getting the idea that Oswald was working for the Soviets and/or the Cubans and starting WW3. The proof of that what things the Warren Comission knew about and did not put in their repor

    Newly released documents from the CIA show that the spy agency intercepted a phone call from Lee Harvey Oswald, John F. Kennedy’s assassin, to the KGB department in Moscow that handled “sabotage and assassinations.”

    Just over a month before Oswald assassinated Kennedy on November 22, 1963, the CIA intercepted a phone call he made to the department.

    The CIA identifies Kostikov as an officer in the KGB’s 13th department, which is “responsible for sabotage and assassination.”

    Oswald asked Kostikov whether there was “anything new concerning the telegram to Washington,” and Kostikov told him there was not

    That unexplained question of Oswald to the KGB assassination department might well sound to the American public rather like a prearranged code for whether to abort an operation. Which is probably why the CIA made sure no one was allowed to find out about it for half a century. And there is more stuff along the same lines that Trump has been persuaded to keep secret.

    The chief witness of Garrison was Perry Russo His story was he the only one of four people sitting together that was not a conspirator but the other three happily conspired in his presence to assassinate President Kennedy as Russo’s listened, and then they left Russo to go to the authorities. One of the conspirators, Clay Shay, was said by Garrison to have used the alias Bertrand, Clay Bertrand.

    HARRIS discovered a striking coincidence between a 5 digit number in Shaw’s address book and one in Lee Harvey Oswald’s book. Oswald’s phone book contained the number 19106 preceded by the Cyrillic letters DD. Shaw’s book contained the same number in an entry “Lee Odom, PO Box 19106, Dallas, Tex”. It was of course only a partial match since the prefixes were different, but, if it proved to be more than a coincidence, it could provide a connection between the two men. Apprised of this discovery by Harris, Garrison immediately announced to the press that he had linked Shaw to Oswald by the unlisted telephone number of Oswald’s killer, Jack Ruby, and “no other number on earth” .

    In an interesting article by one of Garrison’s JFK investigators the authors says something very profound.

    I have mentioned paranoia. Perhaps this is misleading. Most of the conspiratorialists I knew were not paranoid. True, most of them were under the impression that their phones were tapped-in fact many of them declared that they “knew” it — a fact which always struck me as being more wishful thinking than anything else. But paranoia was not their problem. The paranoid personality believes in a conspiracy that is directed against himself; for him it is a personal matter. The conspiratorialist, of course, likewise believes in a conspiracy, but the characteristic feature of his conspiracy is that it benefits the conspirators to the detriment of the nation as a whole, the conspiratorialist suffers only incidentally as a result of the conspiracy he perceives.

    No wonder Garrison used to make odd jokes about his theories. Strictly armchair.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  46. @renfro

    Governments do not exist, neither do three letter word organizations. Criminals organize to design armed rule making structures in order to use them to leverage the power of the masses and the resources of a territory for the criminal purpose of the organizers.

    Nations states are armed rule making structures, designed by those in control of the happenings within defined area ( borders). Such armed rule making structures are designed with a view to leverage the power of the masses and the resources of a territory for purposes that suit the abusive purposes of the designers.

    Every government and every armed branch of that government is designed to deny the masses their right to self determination (life, liberty, justice, and pursuit of happiness). Most governments are designed to manipulate and abuse the governed masses for the benefit of the criminal privileged classes. It is a crime against humanity to be among the 26 persons who own as much wealth as the rest of the world. That much wealth does not accrue by chance ( at least not 26 times) and is not likely during the lifetime of a single person when acting alone in a competitive world.

    Because the designers provide for the nation state to be armed, the designers are able to appoint slave drivers to run make the rules that allow the armed structure to control and manipulate those targeted to be governed.

    Since CIA is an inanimate object, it gets nothing out of it <= as you put it, but the people and their corporations behind the CIA operations us the CIA to steal the wealth of the world. Its called Zionism, and Zionism is a system of economics, that decimates and destroys all competition or would be competition. The purpose of Zionism is to install and maintain total control and to acquire and exercise complete monopoly power over any and all competition, imaginary or real.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  47. Good info, rational approach, and then… Satan.

    Not saying you’re a spook, sir, but if you actually set out to discredit an article containing 95% solid facts and reasonable insights, you probably couldn’t have done a better job than the final 5%

  48. Wally says:

    People ignorantly make false references to ‘the Nazis’ in attempt to assign evil to the object of that comparison. That tactic is best described as ‘garbage in, garage out’.

    NS Germany did nothing like what is alleged of them. Notice the lack of proof that they did. Just ask for proof and see what you get.

    There were the ‘Nazis’ with the impossible ‘6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ and there were the ‘Nazis’ without the impossible ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’.

    The ‘6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  49. Sean says:
    @ploni almoni

    Which suggests a public relations expert is better placed to control people that a conspiracy. Trump is a PR expert. The CIA are not. Trump is one man and therefore he does not have the fear a conspiracy widespread enough to take over a country would have that an inner group let of their own conspiracy would stage a coup against the majority of the original conspirators after the heavy lifting was done in order to monopolize the spoils and prevent any threat to themselves.

  50. @Alden


    The more society-concerning & socially relevant a discipline is, the fuller it is with untruth.
    In mechanical engineering, the people interested in your work are interested in engines that work, possibly better than the others.
    With a society-concerning study, the people interested are interested in lies instrumental to their own vanity’s feeding and/or manipulation of others.

    The buyers’ interests shape the supply, in every line of study, and in turn that shapes the type of people who will go ahead and succeed.
    When humans hear about themselves, what they lust for is vanity-petting untruths. You can’t have but petty lies in mainstream sociology, anthropology, ethnography, and all that.
    However, the truth-oriented 1%, thanks to the Internet, can find great reads of every orientation and flavour based on truth and conveying it, spanning every genre (from cinema to pop songs, deep psychology to the novel).

  51. @renfro

    I understand your skepticism. But if you do a deep dive on this subject — the symbiotic relationship between elites and intelligence agencies, particularly MI6, CIA, and Mossad — you see the outlines of an ancient religion at work. When you combine the well-researched esoterica of Peter Levenda with the realist perspectives of Douglas Valentine, Tim Weiner, Peter Dale Scott, and David Talbot you get a wider understanding of the subterranean forces that operate on behalf of the Kabbalah system that arose from ancient Babylon. The true elites of Western Civilization are bound to the Babylonian system by blood. Recent political personalities like Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and CIA henchman John Brennan are acolytes of this darkness.

  52. @sally_at_the_place

    Zionism is the political action arm of the Babylonian/Kabbalah system.

  53. @Wally

    If you look into the roots of Nazism — occult groups like the Thule Society and Freemasonry splinter factions — you’ll find rabbinical influence.

  54. @Sean

    Lee Harvey Oswald became a CIA asset sometime during his stint in the Marine Corps while stationed at the Atsugi Naval air station in Japan. Later, he became part of James Jesus Angleton’s program of sending false defectors to penetrate the USSR. Upon his remarkably easy return to the US with his Russian wife, Oswald was inserted into a domestic network, eventually settling in Dallas. Patsydom and martyrdom were the next roles for the disposable dupe.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Sean
  55. @RJJCDA

    ” … the GLOBALIST enterprise.”

    The Babylonian System.

  56. @Amon

    I operate under the theory that the Christian church, established by the Council of Nicea in 325 AD, has been a Babylonian operation from its origin. This statement is not meant to demean Christians or Christianity, but the worship of Christ and Judaism are inseparable.

    • Replies: @Alden
  57. @hubba hubba Jon-Benet

    You can add John and Tony Podesta to your list of CIA assets involved in child trafficking.

  58. @Amon

    It’s fun to agree with yourself.

  59. There seems to be a problem about the supposed invention by the CIA of “conspiracy theories” as a put down. I Googled “CIA document [also dispatch] 1350-960” and, despite its being said to have been turned up by a NYT FOI request in 1976 there wasn’t a single URL to give one confidence that it might be anything but a beat up.

    Paul Craig Roberts managed to tell the world that the CIA document was from 1964 when the striking fact appears to be that it is dated 1st April 1967. Moreover the idea that the CIA was trying to bury the document was negated by its disclosure in 1976. It also appears that the document is 50 pages long, in any event that inventing the conspiracy theory obfuscation is only an insignificant fraction of it

  60. Alden says:

    I operate under the theory that Helen of Troy was a 5’3 redhead.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  61. Alden says:

    Some of the thousands of books about Kennedy’s murder claim Oswald was a CIA agent.

  62. Alden says:

    Curtin’s article is a basic clip and paste job of many things written about the CIA since 1950. There’s nothing new or informative about the article. It’s just the most superficial stuff I’ve been reading about the CIA all my life.

    Any 7 th grader can type CIA into google and then start clipping and pasting conventional, standard information into an article.

    There wasn’t a word in the superficial article I haven’t been hearing and reading all my adult life.

    Plus he’s a college sociology teacher a member of the anti White cabal that’s been propagandizing students to hate Whites.

  63. Alden says:

    The CIA is heavily Mormons and Catholics, not Protestants who barely exist except for the badly educated evangelicals any more. Mormon recruits are prized because of their supposed straight arrow honesty plus most important the language and overseas living g skills learned in their international missionary project.

    Since the 1978 Iran revolution CIA has heavily recruited people who speak Farsi Darsi Arabic Urdu and languages spoken in Muslim countries.

    Even during WW2 our OSS heavily recruited working class immigrants and their sons who spoke Polish German Italian Czech Hungarian Albanian Serbian Bulgarian( not Ivy Leaguers who spoke a little tourist Italian or French

  64. @Alden

    What you relate makes sense as plausible not-to-say a priori probable. It also raises questions about the assurance the really important nefarious CIA people would have that there wouldn’t be whistleblowers if the CIA did anything indefensibly anti American.

  65. Sean says:

    On his return from the USSR, but before the assassination of JFK, Oswald told family and acquaintances that he had gone to the Soviet Union as an agent of the CIA. When he was in Dallas police headquarters having been beaten and charged with the murder of a Dallas police officer and being displayed at a press conference he must have realized he was in immediate danger, yet when before newsmen in Dallas he did not claim to be working for the CIA .

    We now know Oswald met a KGB assassination department official, and was caught in a telephone call asking the KGB man what might be interpreted as a coded permission to proceed with an operation.“anything new concerning the telegram to Washington”. weeks before the assassination, though this detail was kept secret until 20017. Yet even without the most incriminating details, Oswald was very foreseeably an incredibly dangerous person to use in any capacity, no matter how peripheral for a plot to kill JFK , given Oswald’s publicly known and undeniable defection to the USSR, sympathy for Cuba, and visits to the Cuban consulate and the Soviet Embassy in Mexico City only weeks before the assassination.

    The idea of the American population being presented with commie traitor back from the USSR with a Soviet wife Oswald being the assassin would be hair raising to conspirators who were trying to assume control and direct the policy of the USA, rather than put it in the hands of likely public outrage and desire for revenge against communist countries. An assassination suspected of having a foreign country’s involvement started WW1, so killing the head of state this way had a proven tendency to start an irresistible drive to war.

    That he was CIA and always intended to be used as a patsy for the assassination seems very far fetched. Even if he had been immediately killed and was not around to talk to reporters, there was no way to know how the Soviets might react after Oswald was named as the assassin, they might easily have said Oswald was a CIA agent all along. Crucially, any hint that Cuba or the Soviet Union had been behind the assassination (and Oswald with his background being officially identified as the assassin was more than a hint), might be expected to create an uncontrollable climate of opinion and public demand for military action against the USSR. Faced with the wrath of America, the USSR would certainly then start screaming that it was some kind of conspiracy, maybe involving elements of the CIA, Israel and LBJ. The Soviets did actually think that LBJ was behind the assassination, a very widespread suspicion at the time, given that he had the most to gain and the assassination was in his home state.

    If Oswald was a CIA or Mossad-LBJ plant to implicate the USSR and Cubans it seems a little anomalous for the CIA to have kept the most incriminating details of the Mexico trip secret for half a century, and there are still things they are refusing to declassify that are believed to be about what Oswald said to Cubans and Soviet spies in Mexico. The Warren Commission obfuscation of Oswald’s links to not just the the USSR and Cuba but the KBG, and claim to have established that he had acted alone was the main dissimulation in the report, which the public might well had completely rejected. The CIA or Israelis and LBJ cannot have been trying to start WW3, yet involving in Oswald in any way in a JFK plot was likely to do just that.

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    , @Hank
  66. anarchyst says:

    Tying Judaism to Christianity was a clever trick used by the jews to “cement” their claim to the “land of Israel” and of the covenant, to which I reply, “God is not a real estate agent”.
    Jews rejected the covenant when they murdered Jesus Christ. Their covenant with God was then “null and void”.
    It is the flawed Schofield translation of the Bible that elevated jews to the status of Christianity’s “elder brothers”, which was then reinforced by the Catholic (flawed) “Vatican II Ecumenical Council” in the 1960s.


    I cringe when I hear well-meaning people talk about out judeo-Christian heritage.
    Nothing could be further from the truth.
    The only common thread between Christianity and judaism is the Ten Commandments, nothing more.
    The god of judaism is a vengeful god, totally unlike the merciful and welcoming God of Christianity.
    Christianity welcomes ALL, regardless of nationality or social status, not true of judaism.
    Judaism is an insular belief system that shuns outsiders, prohibits proselytization, and promotes a form of supremacy, relegating all gentiles (non-jews) to the status of livestock-subhumans with souls, only to be used for the advancement and benefit of jews.
    Jews DID murder Jesus Christ. Sad to say, even the present-day (post-Vatican II ecumenical council) Catholic church has bought into absolving the jews for Jesus Christ’s murder. As always is the case, the jews got others, the Romans to do their dirty work for them, the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. How can Christians have the same values as the Jews; the very people who denounced and betrayed the founder of Christianity, Jesus Christ, and call for his execution (by others, of course, that is the Jewish way). It makes absolutely no sense at all. Jews have no respect for Christianity, for Jesus Christ or Mary, his mother, who are both honored as Prophets in Islam, but instead, Jews spit on hearing their names and do the same while passing a Christian of any kind or a Christian Church in Israel. They have no respect for Christians or any other religion.
    It is time the Jewish lobbies and the American Government leaders as well as the evangelical Christian leaders who mislead the poor American young into joining the military and believing that they are doing something for God and Christianity by fighting Israel’s wars were named, shamed and arrested and tried for treason.

  67. @Sean

    Good background, thanks.

    “That he was CIA and always intended to be used as a patsy for the assassination seems very far fetched.”

    I agree. What I’ve derived from the published research is that Oswald, upon his return from the USSR, was inserted into a domestic network run by right-wing White Russian George de Mohrenschildt. The CIA has been building domestic networks of bureaucrats, businessmen, and other useful civilians since its inception. Oswald was to generate a civilian cover and wait, possibly for years, until de Mohrenschildt’s masters had a role he could play. Oswald’s ticket was punched when Dulles and company decided Dallas would be the killing ground.

  68. @Alden

    The CIA, like the FBI, may be heavy with Mormons and Catholics in present day. But it was created by WASP Ivy League/Wall Street types. The WASPS were dominant in the Agency throughout the 1950s and into the 1960s.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
  69. @SunBakedSuburb

    The Bush dynasty was the last-absolute last-gasp of WASP Ivy League Old Money in the US.

    There might be a few trust-fund babies out there but as far as political influence goes, they’re gone.

    And those that do remain are staunch Democrats. I’m old enough to remember when Republicans were associated with Ivy League universities and the Hampton.

  70. Hank says:

    I think the ultimate “go” on the assassination came from the NSC. Also, I think IKE was actually still active and a five star general. I only saw his name one time on Hoovers phone logs – guess what date-morning? So was Nixon’s, but it was toward early evening. Another name before the event was Fred Friendly(CBS). Here is something that’s puzzling. JFK was hammering Ben Gurion about Dimona, however Ike had approved assistance as early as 58′ or 59″ according to Angleton. Surely JFK knew this?? As Michael Piper says, whatever happened, Israel was the big winner.

  71. Hank says:

    Only recently has it been pointed out to me that one of the reasons the Warren Commission appeared less than top form was to send a message to the Russians to relax a bit.

  72. A real wasted opportunity.
    CIA is deep into all sorts of nefarious work. They didn’t like getting neutered back in the 70’s and quickly adapted: Iran-Contra was a slice of what came out of that. They profit from the poppy fields in Afghanistan (18 years of U.S. forces guarding poppy fields), they profit off human trafficking (including children since at least the 70’s: see Franklin Scandal and the Finders) and I’m sure they got some of the 9/11 Gold and Gaddafis’ as well.
    That they are into Satanic/Luciferian religions is well known: the ‘elite’ scum use pederasty as a MAD insider-bonding mechanism. It is satanic and it is a means of acquiring power on this earth. To think that the enormous amount of power that has grown in the U.S. MIC since WW1 would not attract certain forces is pretty unrealistic and naive.

    The evil of sacrificing children goes back to Carthage. It is now an historical fact. That evil knows itself (like attracting like) and grows through that process is clear. A person would have to be blind NOT to notice the rise of Masonic/Satanic imagery and pederasty in our culture. The media collectively declared Pizzagate ‘debunked’ without any investigation. Music videos targeting the youth are rife with demonic imagery. This is no less than the promotion of their ‘religion’. The Rothschilds and all the ‘elite’ scum are in on this.
    Some of these successful families become multi-billionaries in one generation. The Ambanis in India own a massive chunk of Indias’ media. The family history is very scant. They came out of nowhere as did the Sursuq family (Greek Catholics in Lebanon) who rose very quickly and were instrumental in Otttoman land sales to the Rothschild Zionists.
    This is a spiritual war too. It is not just about freedom, free speech and the 2nd Amendment. It is about creating immense suffering on this planet merely for the sake of reveling in EVIL. Our “elites” are in a secret club AND we don’t get invited to the parties. They are very concerned about losing legitimacy; normal people HATE pederasts and pedovores.
    What is more Evil than killing and eating a child? Yet that is what is happening.
    A researcher looked into missing children in America; it wasn’t easy-there is more info on stolen cars. The statistics were very anomalous. Children went missing with a significantly greater frequency at certain times of the year and in certain places: Washington, D.C. at this time of year has the highest rate of children going missing.
    What does this tell us about the people who rule over us?

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